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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there? Date: 30 Jun 1995 02:47:34 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <3svok6$8au@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt> urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote: [ ] > You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of > NutNews, which is multi-threaded, and MIME capable. > Peter. Hmm...the two archives there appear to be "corrupt". Is it anywhere else? -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there? Message-ID: <DAzqsD.Irw@localhost.com> Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:55:25 GMT In article <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> writes: > urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote: > > Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote: > > : daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote: > > : > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc: > > : > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and > > : where? > > > You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of NutNews, which is > multi-threaded, and MIME capable. Peter. > > I think the upload to ftp.cs.orst.edu was corrupt. I just downloaded the > software, and received the following errors attempting to de-archive it: Yes, but it doesn't even work when the archive isn't corrupt. First, you need to start a Preferences drop-in module(!) to set your NutNews preferences (really nuts, IMHO). Then, the app crashes in strchr() with a null pointer. Both on our Intel and our Motorola machine. Pretty impressive for a demo :-( These guys need a good QA team. Volker
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compressed file system Date: 30 Jun 1995 18:20:58 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3t1faa$p7q@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3suj04$cfi@news.next.com> Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM writes: > Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes: >> NeXT clearly considers file compression worth it otherwise we >> wouldn't be running with compressed swap files. The problem is, >> NeXT chose to implement it as a unique facility for a paticular file >> rather than a generic compressed file system in which the swap file >> just happens to live. With a little generalization, those who >> wanted such could have added their own compressed file spaces ... >> > This is not true. Swapfile compression is a performance > optimization, not a space one. Timewise, it's faster to read and > write less compressed data than it is to read and write more > uncompressed data. Which claim isn't true, that NeXT decided that it was worth implementing compressed swap files or that they didn't generalize the facility for users to obtain a similar advantage? (Whatever it is.) I didn't claim space as *the* reason for wanting this facility, I only implied it as an example of why one might desire compression. NeXT's release notes put the space and time optimizations on equal footing: When this optimization is enabled, pages written to the swapfile (a temporary backing store) are compressed. This compression usually results in a smaller swapfile and less I/O. If I get that 3GB SCSI II drive advertised at NCA for $665 will it provide time optimization too such that I no longer need compression? - Christopher "probably just being unreasonably argumentative today"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there? Message-ID: <jlemonDB02I1.90F@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu> <DAzqsD.Irw@localhost.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:08:25 GMT Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com In article <DAzqsD.Irw@localhost.com>, Volker Herminghaus <vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de> wrote: >In article <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> >writes: >> urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote: >> > Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote: >> > : daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote: >> > : > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc: >> > : > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and >> > : where? >> >> > You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of NutNews, which >is >> multi-threaded, and MIME capable. Peter. >> >> I think the upload to ftp.cs.orst.edu was corrupt. I just downloaded the >> software, and received the following errors attempting to de-archive it: > >Yes, but it doesn't even work when the archive isn't corrupt. First, >you need to start a Preferences drop-in module(!) to set your NutNews >preferences (really nuts, IMHO). Then, the app crashes in strchr() >with a null pointer. Both on our Intel and our Motorola machine. >Pretty impressive for a demo :-( >These guys need a good QA team. > > Volker The Preference drop-in module does not work on my 3.3 machine - it crashes Preferences. Also, NutNews appears to use the Indexing Kit, and some classes don't appear to link properly. The only thing I see of MIME messages is the headers; the body of the message is not displayed. It has potential, but needs some work first. -- Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: william@telluride.pdh.com (Andy Grosso) Subject: Zip files ? Message-ID: <DAzsu8.MAx@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:39:44 GMT Anybody know where I can find a program to open .ZIP files (from DOS land) ? -- Cheers, Andy
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using "at" with playscore Date: 30 Jun 1995 19:03:11 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <3t1hpf$7s7@news.iastate.edu> Have some guests staying with me for the summer, and so have ended up sleeping in the room where I keep my NeXTstation. Had the great idea of using it as an alarm clock, but can't get playscore and "at" to work together. Here are the results feynman> ./wakeme playscore reading /tlm/Library/Music/Sinfonias/Sinfonia-01.score... ..done playing... SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 2.684211. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 2.842105. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.000000. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.157895. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.315789. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.473684. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.631579. SynthInstrument: Omitting note at time 3.789474. from the command line (wakeme is just a csh script that tells scoreplayer to play the Sinfonia). But when I run "at" I get mail sent to me saying: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:15:05 -0500 From: Operator <root> Apparently-To: tlm The job you submitted to at, "wakeme", exited abnormally. A list of the errors that occurred follows: playscore reading /tlm/Library/Music/Sinfonias/Sinfonia-01.score... ...done Can't open DSP. ----------------- The Atrun Program Anyone know what is causing this problem? -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Strange (?) printer problem. Date: 30 Jun 1995 21:49:30 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <3t1rha$hgt@news.tamu.edu> I have two next cpus, one (his) is a cube black and white, the other (mine) is a color slab. I have two next printers (his) and (mine) they are identical as far as I can tell. Problem: 1. His printer works fine on his cpu. 2. My printer works fine on his cpu. 3. His printer works fine on my cpu. 4. My printer does not work on my cpu. Any ideas? My printer on my cpu prints a small bit of the page then says "some or all of the pages in your print request could not be printed" I have powered down and back up after changing printers out, but no go. I have repeated the swapping out function multiple times hoping I messed something up but I get the same response each time. I am printing the test page from the printmanager. HELP! -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help- please (will pay)!! External Apple CD+SB16 Date: 30 Jun 1995 17:08:03 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <3t1b1j$6td@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Several people have indicated that they were able to get the line in of the SB16 working using an internal SCSI CD-ROM and the appropriate audio cable. Now I have an external Apple CD 300 and I can't get the audio to play by plugging the audio out of the CD reader into the SB16's line in jack. It's not the connection as it works in DOS and Windows. Does anyone have any idea why this isn't working in NS3.3? I have the very latest driver and have tried both the 1 DMA and the 2 DMA settings. I'll pay for the solution:) -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) Subject: Re: Strange (?) printer problem. Message-ID: <vfr750DB0Dqr.LD5@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3t1rha$hgt@news.tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 23:11:15 GMT Sender: vfr750@netcom17.netcom.com lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) writes: >I have two next cpus, one (his) is a cube black and white, the other (mine) >is a color slab. >I have two next printers (his) and (mine) they are identical as far as I can >tell. >Problem: > 1. His printer works fine on his cpu. > 2. My printer works fine on his cpu. > 3. His printer works fine on my cpu. > 4. My printer does not work on my cpu. >Any ideas? My printer on my cpu prints a small bit of the page then >says "some or all of the pages in your print request could not be >printed" I have powered down and back up after changing printers out, >but no go. I have repeated the swapping out function multiple times >hoping I messed something up but I get the same response each time. I >am printing the test page from the printmanager. >HELP! A similiar thing happened to a friend of mine. I guess it turns out that some of the early Color Slabs had a problem with some printers. NeXT ended up swapping his motherboard to fix the problem. You may want to convince your friend to trade printers. Luck, -- Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com 1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!" 1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc References: <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de> From: "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:53:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI Message-ID: <37730399@turbocat.snafu.de> Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Michael Maximilian Goedel wrote in article <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de> about Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI: > In article <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de> > writes: > > Hi! > > > > My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A). > > The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it. > > > > The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386. (...) > Tell us more about 'the why it doesn't work or what is going wrong' . I forgot to add the SCSITapeDriver.... Sorry. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compressed file system Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:01:58 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1995Jul1.090158.21729@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <DAzCFG.LE@onevision.de> In article <DAzCFG.LE@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger) writes: > The Problem with 3 GB drives ( really drives with more than 2 GB) is > the installation.... > Partioning, disktab entries,... all the bad things of UNIX... > > Maybe we might ask for clean support of drives/partitions > 2 GB? 3.3 automatically partitions >2Gb disks into even sized partitions. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu> From: "Quinonez, Gerardo" <GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu> Subject: NCR Controller Date: Sun, 02 Jul 95 17:08:00 PDT Message-ID: <2FF5E47E@deans.medsch.ucla.edu> Encoding: 4 TEXT Can any one tell me where to get the NCR controller drivers. Thank you.
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help- please (will pay)!! External Apple CD+SB16 Date: 1 Jul 1995 19:35:42 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <3t482e$bfv@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <3t1b1j$6td@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote: > Several people have indicated that they were able to get the line in of the > SB16 working using an internal SCSI CD-ROM and the appropriate audio cable. > Now I have an external Apple CD 300 and I can't get the audio to play by > plugging the audio out of the CD reader into the SB16's line in jack. It's > not the connection as it works in DOS and Windows. Does anyone have any > idea why this isn't working in NS3.3? I have the very latest driver and > have tried both the 1 DMA and the 2 DMA settings. > I'll pay for the solution:) Ok, here's the solution. It will cost you $100. The Line In on the SB16 DOES NOT work under NeXTSTEP. You can only use the internal audio connection. Thus, anyone with an external CD will have to route sound directly to speakers or hack together a connection to the internal connector on the SB16. Thank's go out to a friend at U of Waterloo for the info... > Philip McDunnough > LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} > philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred} -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: m94dwa@albireo-qe0.tdb.uu.se (David Wallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.2 serial drivers Date: 1 Jul 1995 19:01:37 GMT Organization: Department of Scientific Computing, Uppsala University, Sweden Message-ID: <3t462h$1l02@columba.udac.uu.se> Could someone please mail me the SerialPort and SerialMouse driver that was shipped with NEXTSTEP 3.2. thank you, --david
From: cavery@cais.cais.com (Cavery) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NutNews Date: 1 Jul 1995 18:11:32 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Message-ID: <3t434k$qgt@news.cais.com> Its called Nutnews, isn't it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: xiaomin@ets.com (Xiaomin Wu) Subject: Test Message-ID: <DB020q.24A@ets.com> Sender: xiaomin@ets.com (Xiaomin Wu) Organization: ETS, Inc. Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 18:58:01 GMT This is test
From: olivert@epix.net (The Lim Bah Letter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *** ENTER OJ COMPETITION *** Date: 2 Jul 1995 14:09:52 GMT Organization: PROJECT VOLUNTEER Message-ID: <3t69bg$o52@grape.epix.net> **ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST** Question 1.) Do you think OJ will take the stand? Yes/NO 2.)IF he does take the stand, do you think he will break down and confess? Yes/No 3.) Do you think the defense will even attemp to put on a "defense" Yes/No 4.) Do you think OJ will walk either way (putting on a defense/or NOT putting on a defense) Yes/No 5.) IF Yes or No to #4: WHY? A.) Made the mistake of putting on a defense and DID testify B.) Because they did put on a defense and OJ did NOT testify or C.) Did NOT put on any defense 6.) IF OJ walks, how long do you think he will stay alive? A. Less than 30 seconds B. One day C. One week D. Other (write in your estimate) 7.) Who do you think will get to him first? A. Marsha Clark B. One of his own attorneys C. Ron Goldmans' father D. The Mafia who's got money on it E. Write in your choice:___________________ 8.) Regardless of any of the above, do YOU think he is guilty? Yes/Mo 9.) ESSAY QUESTION 2500 WORDS OR LESS: Do you think that there is ANY possiblity he WAS set up and IF you do, do you think it was the police or somebody else and if so who,why & how? SEND YOUR ANSWERS & ESSAY VIA SNAIL MAIL TO: Attn. OJ Essay The Lim Bah Letter PROJECT VOLUNTEER 43 State Street Lawrenceville, Pennsylvania 16929-9759 Include $1.00 if you can afford it, if not send anyway. olivert@epix.net INLUDE BOTH YOUR E-MAIL & SNAIL MAIL ADDRESSES The "Top Ten Most Interesting Answers to the Essay Question will be published in the The Lim Bah Letter and receive a cash award of ****$10.00**** from the publishers of The Lim Bah Letter Winners names will also be posted in this news group. All entries become the property of The Lim Bah Letter for there exclusive use. The winners will be determined by the staff of The Lim Bah Letter who exercise sole discretion in judging the winning entries. Judging will be done on the following catagories: The MOST PROBABLE scenario essay. The WILDEST SCENARIO essay. Five from each catagory will be selected. The results of the poll will also be posted in this news group. NOTE: Essays containing profanity or exotica are NOT welcome and will NOT be considered. TheAntiRush Editor The Lim Bah Letter GOOD LUCK! The Lim Bah Letter is published by: "The Finest Gift - Your Time" PROJECT VOLUNTEER 43 State Street Lawrenceville, Pennsylvania 16929-9759 Phone, Fax, Modem: (717) 827-3402 E-MAIL: olivert@epix.net or oliver.tershansy@sbaonline,sba,gov PROJECT VOLUNTEER is a non profit organization entirely staffed by volunteers. We have NO paid employees. For a donation of $5.00 or more will receive as our thank you the next ten issues of The Lim Bah Letter via E-Mail, Fax, or Snail Mail.Indicate which you prefer and include relevant data.
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Cal State LA Uses NeXTSTEP Date: 2 Jul 1995 16:49:43 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <3t6in7$58e@redstone.interpath.net> I came upon this while surfing the net early this morning...it was under infi.net's cool site of the day link. I don't believe I have ever seen a posting from Cal State LA on these newsgroups before (Ivo?) Anyhow it's the home page for the "Virtual Fly Lab", under the "Electronic Desktop Project Catalog"...they have created a lot of courseware ranging from how to create a fly, to earthquake evaluation to creation/operation of your own planetarium. The URL is: http://vflylab.calstatela.edu/edesktop/edp_apps/app_catalog.html Email the page URL to you neighborhood college science departments...you never know where it may go. Dave
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 3 Jul 1995 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3t7qsf$c98@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: jbrathw@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP!!-NEC 3D with ET4000 on NS3.3?? Date: 2 Jul 1995 23:03:14 GMT Message-ID: <3t78ji$1hgb@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I am trying to configure NS3.3 to use an ET4000 video card and a NEC 3D monitor. This combination does NOT work - All I get is a distorted, unsynchronised display at boot up. The problem seems to be that the driver does NOT allow for Interlace display modes. The NEC 3D can only do Interlace. I have also tried the ET4000W32p card and the driver from NS3.2 which is supposed to support Interlace modes. This produces the same results!! Does anyone know of a way to get this combination to work??. Does NS allow the use of Interlace modes with ANY video cards?? Jerome Braithwaite jbrathw@ibm.net
From: william@beirut.berkeley.edu (Andy Grosso) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Zip Files Date: 3 Jul 1995 15:46:11 GMT Organization: Worm-Eaters Anonymous Message-ID: <3t93c3$20t@agate.berkeley.edu> Thanks to everyone who responded. The consensus seems to be that Opener.app does indeed handle .zip files (and that the copy I have is thereofre somehow corrupted). Cheers, Andy
From: urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Using "at" with playscore Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 3 Jul 1995 18:24:35 GMT Organization: LITNET Distribution: world Message-ID: <3t9cl3$22o@tauras.vu.lt> References: <3t1hpf$7s7@news.iastate.edu> Tom Marchioro (tlm@ameslab.gov) wrote: : Have some guests staying with me for the summer, and so have ended up : sleeping in the room where I keep my NeXTstation. Had the great idea of : using it as an alarm clock, but can't get playscore and "at" to work No idea about at, but if you wanna use a shotgun, try the cron files.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: zahorka@ifi.unizh.ch (Oliver Zahorka) Subject: Q: MIDI on NeXT doesn't work. Message-ID: <1995Jul3.154351.16513@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:43:51 GMT Hello NeXT & MIDI users, I'm desperately trying to get MIDI working on a NeXT Cube (68040/33MHz, w/NeXTDimension). I'm using the current MusicKit release 4.1 and a Midi Link MIDI-Interface from Quest Inc., which seems to be especially designed for the NeXT and comes packaged with proper cables (I hope :). Is there any hidden button to push, i.e. something like a shell script to install MIDI Drivers, or am I missing anything else obvious? PLEASE HELP! -- _____________________________________________________________________ Oliver Zahorka Institut fuer Informatik University of Zurich zahorka@ifi.unizh.ch Winterthurerstrasse 190 (NeXT mail ok) CH-8057 Zurich/Switzerland
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader Message-ID: <1995Jul3.195437.19737@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 3 Jul 95 19:54:37 EDT References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt> <3svok6$8au@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Organization: Univ of Miami IR I am having problems too. NutNews opens, then crashes. Newsgrazer works much of the time (Intel) but hangs often. The Alexandra archive which is labeled NIHS has only the HP binary and the site in Germany which has this has been inaccessible for days. OH WELL, life as usual. One more problem - tin works but I cannot get the from: address field to show the way I want. A hostname call gives "darwin" so the from field shows: tom@darwin not tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu as I would like. But, I don't want to reconfigure my network just to get the hostname call to work properly. Any ideas? Is there an environment variable which I can set? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Tom Herbert University of Miami therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu -------------------------------- In article <3svok6$8au@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>, philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote: > > [ ] > >> You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of >> NutNews, which is multi-threaded, and MIME capable. >> Peter. > > Hmm...the two archives there appear to be "corrupt". Is it anywhere else? > > -- > Philip McDunnough > LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} > philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred} >
From: robertl@rivercourt.hot.com (Robert La Ferla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 4 Jul 1995 01:34:47 GMT Organization: TerraNet, Inc., Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <3ta5rn$a6n@dalesbred.terra.net> References: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> I also do not recommend getting dual Pentium systems. However, the release of P6 (Intel 686) later this year will change this. It will be much easier for manufacturers to create SMP systems and the software will be simplier as well. NeXT should consider supporting P6 SMP. I don't see why they won't either. Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant + 1 (617) 252-0088 Gary Longsine <glongsi> wrote: > pit@informatik.fh-augsburg.de (Krick Peter) wrote: > >Some months ago I bought an ASUS DualPentium board. Now I think that the > >prices for a P90/100 are nice enough to install a second CPU. > >But NS doesn't support a second CPU. My question is: > >Does anybody know when NS will support two or more Intel CPUs? > I expect support for multiple CPU's on intel at about the same time as I expect > the Devil to serve ice water. If I were running NeXT, I certainly wouldn't > spend a single dime on dual pentium support, this year anyway. > I'm not trying to be harsh, but in general, I discourage anyone (not just > NeXTSTEP users) from buying Fred's Dual Processor PC to begin with, but now > that you have, I encourage you to consider not buying a 2nd CPU. > With most PC implementations and currently available OS, very little > performance advantage is gained, and the additional cost is too high. Most > users would be better off trading up to a faster PC motherboard than plunking > down the extra cash for dual-cpu support and the second processor. > Many of these implementations are shipped in PC's that have IDE disks! If > higher system performance is the goal, the $1k to $2k diff (with extra CPU) > would be better spent on additional system RAM, L2 cache RAM (if you don't have > it already) or a SCSI disk subsystem (if you have IDE) or a SPARC or HP machine > that comes with most of that by default. > For NeXT, the basic problem is that there are too many vendors with their own > hacked-up dual cpu intel motherboards for a company like NeXT to support. Each > of these boards would probably require kernel level hacking to support, and > NeXT probably has ten or twelve customers on each type of system -- in any > case, there are hardly enough to justify the kernel level hacking required. > I don't know what Sun's position on this is concerning Solaris. Sun's a little > bigger and might support multiple CPU intel machines. I simply don't know. If > they did, though, you could always wait for OpenStep for Solaris, but I'm > betting that it will be behind NeXTSTEP 4.0 a few months, and won't ship before > the end of Q1, 1996. Might be able to get it on OSF/1 on an Alpha sooner. > On the other hand, it is reasonable to expect that sometime in the > not-too-distant future, NeXTSTEP _will_ support multiple CPU's on SPARC based > or PA-RISC based systems. The Mach kernel is set up to handle this well, and > NeXT has some experience with it, as they once designed an SMP (a specific type > of dual-cpu architecture) workstation, and had part or all of NeXTSTEP running > on it. > A large number of SPARC users could take advantage of multiple processor > support, and enough may want it to make the effort worthwhile. Of course, that > probably is not as high a priority as implementing the full OpenStep API, > enhancing NetInfo, enhancing PDO and EOF, completing NeXTIME and the developer > tools for multimedia stuff that will someday go with it, etc., etc. > Now, if PC vendors gather around a standard, and NeXT implements multiple cpu > support for RISC (i.e. has part of the work done), then MAYBE you'll see > support for the intel dual cpu standard, whatever that may be. I wouldn't hold > my breath, however. Most standards in the PC world, take VLB for example, need > about a year after the first hardware implementation to gel into a real > standard that one can program to and expect to work. Other PC hardware > standards never gel... again take VLB as a good example. Many vendors > implement "VLB" slots that only support certain VLB video cards, and no other > VLB devices at all (because it's not a full implementation of VLB). > Frustrating a hell, because it's seldom well-documented by the manufacturer. > >When will NS 4.0 be delivered out? > NeXT employees have said that NeXT will show off NeXTSTEP 4.0, which will be > the first fully compliant implementation of OpenStep, at the ObjectWorld > OpenStep Day, August 14, Moscone Center, San Francisco. I haven't seen > anything official from NeXT, so I don't think an actual ship date has been set, > but we don't have long to wait. :) > -- > ____/| | Gary W. Longsine > \ o.O| GPF! | UNIX Systems Analyst, PARANET > =(_)= CTLALTDEL! | <glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com> > U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | "I don't do Windows."
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NCR Controller Date: 3 Jul 1995 21:26:37 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3t9nad$3aj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2FF5E47E@deans.medsch.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Quinonez, Gerardo (GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu) wrote: : Can any one tell me where to get the NCR controller drivers. : Thank you. ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/home/ftp/pub/NeXT/system/intel/SYM53c8.1.00.I.b.tar.gz Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NCR Controller Date: 3 Jul 1995 21:28:10 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3t9nda$3al@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2FF5E47E@deans.medsch.ucla.edu> <3t9nad$3aj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : Quinonez, Gerardo (GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu) wrote: : : Can any one tell me where to get the NCR controller drivers. : : Thank you. : ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/home/ftp/pub/NeXT/system/intel/SYM53c8.1.00.I.b.tar.gz Hmm. Too late for me :-) This was bullshit, better try: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/system/intel/SYM53c8.1.00.I.b.tar.gz -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Gary Longsine <glongsi> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 4 Jul 1995 00:24:35 GMT Organization: USWest SA news server Message-ID: <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pit@informatik.fh-augsburg.de (Krick Peter) wrote: >Some months ago I bought an ASUS DualPentium board. Now I think that the >prices for a P90/100 are nice enough to install a second CPU. >But NS doesn't support a second CPU. My question is: >Does anybody know when NS will support two or more Intel CPUs? I expect support for multiple CPU's on intel at about the same time as I expect the Devil to serve ice water. If I were running NeXT, I certainly wouldn't spend a single dime on dual pentium support, this year anyway. I'm not trying to be harsh, but in general, I discourage anyone (not just NeXTSTEP users) from buying Fred's Dual Processor PC to begin with, but now that you have, I encourage you to consider not buying a 2nd CPU. With most PC implementations and currently available OS, very little performance advantage is gained, and the additional cost is too high. Most users would be better off trading up to a faster PC motherboard than plunking down the extra cash for dual-cpu support and the second processor. Many of these implementations are shipped in PC's that have IDE disks! If higher system performance is the goal, the $1k to $2k diff (with extra CPU) would be better spent on additional system RAM, L2 cache RAM (if you don't have it already) or a SCSI disk subsystem (if you have IDE) or a SPARC or HP machine that comes with most of that by default. For NeXT, the basic problem is that there are too many vendors with their own hacked-up dual cpu intel motherboards for a company like NeXT to support. Each of these boards would probably require kernel level hacking to support, and NeXT probably has ten or twelve customers on each type of system -- in any case, there are hardly enough to justify the kernel level hacking required. I don't know what Sun's position on this is concerning Solaris. Sun's a little bigger and might support multiple CPU intel machines. I simply don't know. If they did, though, you could always wait for OpenStep for Solaris, but I'm betting that it will be behind NeXTSTEP 4.0 a few months, and won't ship before the end of Q1, 1996. Might be able to get it on OSF/1 on an Alpha sooner. On the other hand, it is reasonable to expect that sometime in the not-too-distant future, NeXTSTEP _will_ support multiple CPU's on SPARC based or PA-RISC based systems. The Mach kernel is set up to handle this well, and NeXT has some experience with it, as they once designed an SMP (a specific type of dual-cpu architecture) workstation, and had part or all of NeXTSTEP running on it. A large number of SPARC users could take advantage of multiple processor support, and enough may want it to make the effort worthwhile. Of course, that probably is not as high a priority as implementing the full OpenStep API, enhancing NetInfo, enhancing PDO and EOF, completing NeXTIME and the developer tools for multimedia stuff that will someday go with it, etc., etc. Now, if PC vendors gather around a standard, and NeXT implements multiple cpu support for RISC (i.e. has part of the work done), then MAYBE you'll see support for the intel dual cpu standard, whatever that may be. I wouldn't hold my breath, however. Most standards in the PC world, take VLB for example, need about a year after the first hardware implementation to gel into a real standard that one can program to and expect to work. Other PC hardware standards never gel... again take VLB as a good example. Many vendors implement "VLB" slots that only support certain VLB video cards, and no other VLB devices at all (because it's not a full implementation of VLB). Frustrating a hell, because it's seldom well-documented by the manufacturer. >When will NS 4.0 be delivered out? NeXT employees have said that NeXT will show off NeXTSTEP 4.0, which will be the first fully compliant implementation of OpenStep, at the ObjectWorld OpenStep Day, August 14, Moscone Center, San Francisco. I haven't seen anything official from NeXT, so I don't think an actual ship date has been set, but we don't have long to wait. :) -- ____/| | Gary W. Longsine \ o.O| GPF! | UNIX Systems Analyst, PARANET =(_)= CTLALTDEL! | <glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com> U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | "I don't do Windows."
Date: 4 Jul 1995 14:52:16 GMT From: olivert@epix.net (The Lim Bah Letter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.3t69bg$o52@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3t69bg$o52@grape.epix.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <3t69bg$o52@grape.epix.net> Excessive multi-posting (aka spam) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: MIDI on NeXT doesn't work. Date: 4 Jul 1995 14:11:51 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <3tbi77$c95@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> References: <1995Jul3.154351.16513@ifi.unizh.ch> Oliver Zahorka (zahorka@ifi.unizh.ch) wrote: : Hello NeXT & MIDI users, : I'm desperately trying to get MIDI working on a NeXT Cube (68040/33MHz, : w/NeXTDimension). I'm using the current MusicKit release 4.1 and a Midi Link : MIDI-Interface from Quest Inc., which seems to be especially designed for the : NeXT and comes packaged with proper cables (I hope :). : Is there any hidden button to push, i.e. something like a shell script to : install MIDI Drivers, or am I missing anything else obvious? : PLEASE HELP! I'll quote something from the nextmusic mailing list... Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:59:05 -0800 From: david@jaffe.com (David A. Jaffe) To: nextmusic@jaffe.com Subject: MIDI under NEXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware The MIDI driver supplied by NeXT as part of 3.3 for NeXT hardware appears to be broken (it doesn't link). I've contacted NeXT and explained the problem, as well as proposing a fix. (I can't fix it myself because it requires some files internal to NeXT.) In the mean time, you can (apparently) still use the 3.2, 3.1 or 3.0 version. Here's how: If you are running NS 3.2, 3.1 or 3.0 and you plan to upgrade to NS 3.3, but haven't done so yet, first copy the file /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc to a floppy (or somewhere else), then upgrade, then clobber the NS 3.3 version of this file with the version you saved. Otherwise, if you've already upgraded to NS 3.3, we've put a version of this file on the CCRMA ftp server, ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, as pub/NeXT/mididriver.next_hardware.tar.Z Be sure to reboot after making the change. Note that this affects NeXT hardware only. If you are running on Intel hardware, the MIDI driver is supplied by the Music Kit. David Jaffe david@jaffe.com Berkeley, California ====================================== -hope that helps. Peter Foster
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CryptorBundle, PGP, etc. stuff is located at Date: 3 Jul 1995 21:56:31 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu Message-ID: <3tahlv$753@phakt.usc.edu> Summary: Works on NS 3.3 Keywords: pgp these programs can be downloaded at: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/mail I also think that there was some formal agency one had to contact by e-mail to register for using pgp or maybe I'm misremembering something else. Good luck. Matthew -- "Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 4 Jul 1995 16:58:14 GMT Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tbrv7$ruc@emerald.oz.net> References: <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> In article <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> Gary Longsine <glongsi> writes: > On the other hand, it is reasonable to expect that sometime in the > not-too-distant future, NeXTSTEP _will_ support multiple CPU's on SPARC based > or PA-RISC based systems. The Mach kernel is set up to handle this well, and > NeXT has some experience with it, as they once designed an SMP (a specific type > of dual-cpu architecture) workstation, and had part or all of NeXTSTEP running > on it. > Yes, the Mach kernel was designed with SMP in mind, so as Gary points out, there shouldn't be an inherent problem using the NS kernel in SMP mode. However, the dual-CPU workstation that NeXT had planned to produce wasn't a SMP design as I understand it. One CPU was dedicated to handling the video (PostScript, etc.) and the other, everything else. This design is probably much easier to implement well when compared with SMP. This doesn't mean that NeXT didn't design and produce true SMP machines in the past. It just means that I haven't heard about this work :-) --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154 Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CryptorBundle, PGP, etc. stuff is located at Date: 4 Jul 1995 17:28:59 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3tbtor$aj1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3tahlv$753@phakt.usc.edu> In article <3tahlv$753@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) writes: >> these programs can be downloaded at: >> >> ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/mail >> >> >> I also think that there was some formal agency one had to contact by e-mail to register for using pgp or maybe I'm misremembering something else. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Matthew >> -- >> "Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu Hmm, Actually, pgp is illegal to export outside the US by .. I think the CIA. (or is it NSA ?) Anyway, I just installed it yesterday and it worked like a jem. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Tyf@UC Berkeley - NeXTMAIL & MIME ready! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBtAi/3UqYAAAEDALWIi+7ObNzWo2ZxDMb3eW+x2ywXV4CuEZuAnCsIWVkWcR3y CJw06AslgyfJTNS4wZzouw7XbYEunDxybs0Cy+MIKk3uZZm6q49goSQwg4QwqQxA /VGlhZRfbUfge9/FiQAFE7QkVGluLVlhdSBGdW5nIDx0eWZAY3N1YS5iZXJrZWxl eS5lZHU+ =7swE -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: Gary Longsine <glongsi> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: *** ENTER OJ COMPETITION *** Date: 4 Jul 1995 00:33:02 GMT Organization: USWest SA news server Message-ID: <3ta27u$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <3t69bg$o52@grape.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: olivert@epix.net Dearest Lim Bah, Don't post your demented, money-grubbing plea for attention to our otherwise peaceful and loving news group. thank you, you slimy bastard. -- ____/| | Gary W. Longsine \ o.O| GPF! | UNIX Systems Analyst, PARANET =(_)= CTLALTDEL! | <glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com> U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | "I don't do Windows."
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,maus.sys.next Subject: -NXHost Problem! Date: 5 Jul 1995 08:55:29 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tdk21$mjq@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, on my NS3.2 Intel-based NeXT I am having a very nasty problem using -NXHost. I narrowed it down to the following: If I try, on my machine named "mynext", to do /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost mynext everything works fine: the app comes up, i can copy/paste, all services entries are present. However, if I try on mynext: /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost mynext.in.its.full.domaine then the app comes up, i can open windows, but as soon as I try to copy or paste s.th., the app crashes and I get a "Bus error". Can anyone help with some suggestions as to what could be wrong here? I tried the same on a good old black machine (NS3.3) and there both calls work fine without problems. Unfortunately I do not have access to another intel-based NeXT. Could someone else please try on her/his intel-based NeXT the above command and tell me if it worked there? Thanks a lot for any help or pointers you could give me, Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: jacob@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newsreader Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 21:38:48 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <950704233848.226AAE+G.jacob@jnext> References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt> <3svok6$8au@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <1995Jul3.195437.19737@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Tom Herbert <therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu> wrote: >One more problem - tin works but I cannot get the from: address >field to show the way I want. A hostname call gives "darwin" >so the from field shows: tom@darwin not tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu >as I would like. But, I don't want to reconfigure my network just >to get the hostname call to work properly. Any ideas? Is there >an environment variable which I can set? If memory serves me, `setenv REPLYTO tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu' would do the trick. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen jacob@dannug.dk
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:32:44 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1995Jul4.223244.2349@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <3tcbe9$5e6@emerald.oz.net> In article <3tcbe9$5e6@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > In article <3tbrv7$ruc@emerald.oz.net> I wrote: > > However, the dual-CPU workstation that NeXT had planned to produce > > wasn't a SMP design as I understand it. One CPU was dedicated to > handling > > the video (PostScript, etc.) and the other, everything else. > > > Maybe I don't understand the dual-CPU NeXT RISC Workstation (NRW) as > well as Joe Pasqua of Adobe Systems Incorporated :-) He has corrected my > assertion that the NRW wasn't a SMP machine. > > I had heard nothing to indicate that it was a SMP machine. I heard > several reports of blinding video performance due to one of the CPU's > being dedicated to the video subsystem. This is becoming rather ancient > history, so my memory about NRW rumors is undoubtedly failing. I saw a post from a NeXT kernel engineer who said that it was SMP; this was shortly after they dropped hardware, and was posted to contradict another post that said basically the same as you said earlier (the original, wrong, post was by me). Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compressed file system Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:40:50 GMT Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <3tcg1i$6nt@duck.inetnebr.com> References: <3suj04$cfi@news.next.com> <DAzCFG.LE@onevision.de> Hans Stoeger (hans@onevision.de) wrote: : Just be carefull... : The Problem with 3 GB drives ( really drives with more than 2 GB) is : the installation.... : Partioning, disktab entries,... all the bad things of UNIX... : Maybe we might ask for clean support of drives/partitions > 2 GB? Ok, I'm confused, now. I remember hearing before 3.3 came out that it was going to include support for SCSI hard drives up to 9GB. What's the deal? Anybody out there seen a NS system with such a large storage device? -- ____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer \ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows." =(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska) U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (Pisati Stefano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CryptorBundle, PGP, etc. stuff is located at Date: 5 Jul 1995 08:26:36 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <3tdibs$ogv@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> References: <3tahlv$753@phakt.usc.edu> <3tbtor$aj1@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) wrote: > Actually, pgp is illegal to export outside the US by There is an international version that you can run without problem outside US... it' 2.6.i -- 73 de -_ Stefano _- "Stat rosa pristina nomine nomina nuda tenemus" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Stefano Pisati IW2JXK email: pisati@dsi.unimi.it NeXTmail: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it PGP-Key on request http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/pisati/home ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: which TransSys (1.13 / 1.9) to recommend Date: 5 Jul 1995 08:37:49 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <3tdj0t$2du@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Hi, I need to install a SLIP package and found the 1.13 and the 1.9beta versions of TransSys. Which version would you recommend, looking at features, stability and ofcourse ease of install. Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: blagoja@nxtlocal.core.org.za (Blagoja Pardulski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Training Date: 5 Jul 1995 08:46:52 GMT Organization: PiX - Proxima information X-change Message-ID: <3tdjhs$35n@foxbat.pix.za> Keywords: NeXT, training, programming, EOF We are looking for training on Advanced NeXTSTEP and EOF in either the USA or Europe, but the training should be given in English. Our secondary interest would be in advanced NetInfo and OO Analysis and Design. We are looking for training during September to November 1995. The training is for one person. We are aware of NeXT original courses in the USA, but it does not appear that the Advanced NeXTSTEP training is available in Q3 1995, and we do not have a schedule for Q4 1995. Please advise on available NeXT authorized courses and reply to: blagoja@core.org.za
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need perl already compiled Date: 5 Jul 1995 06:58:20 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <3tdd6c$fiq@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <3sub86$gpp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <DAyApL.F0n@muaddib.m.isar.de> Michael Maximilian Goedel (mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de) wrote: : A compiled version of perl lies on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de : under ~/Unix/script/perl.4.036.NI.b.tar.gz : Nice greetings from Munich : -- : __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 : /\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen : \/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18 : NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18 Thanks to all who responded... found it!!! Thanks.... -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu Stop Senate Bill 314!! It threatens the very fabric of the INTERNETs existence. Please see http://www.phantom.com/~slowdog for details. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: un7p@rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Timo Fleisch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: MIDI on NeXT doesn't work. Date: 5 Jul 1995 09:30:16 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <3tdm38$rvv@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <1995Jul3.154351.16513@ifi.unizh.ch> <3tbi77$c95@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-User: un7p : I'll quote something from the nextmusic mailing list... who do I subscribe to the nextmusic mailing list? -- Timo Fleisch +++ eMail: Timo.Fleisch@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: braun@biw.cube.de (Pirmin Braun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: email adress of Doug Harris? Date: 5 Jul 1995 11:37:57 GMT Organization: BIW Systemhaus Message-ID: <3tdtil$21n@next01.biw-ag.de> Hi, I need to mail Doug Harris, the author of WatchSwap. Who knows his current email adress? The one provided in the info panel of WatchSwap (dough@bou.shl.com) doesn't work. What do "bou" and "shl" stand for? Thanks in advance for any help! -- Pirmin Braun; BIW GmbH; Werkstr. 24; 71384 Weinstadt; Germany Phone: 0049 7151 602 204; Fax: 0049 7151 602 341 #include <StandardDisclaimers.h>
From: braun@biw-ag.de (Pirmin Braun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: email adress of Doug Harris? Date: 5 Jul 1995 12:50:36 GMT Organization: BIW Systemhaus Message-ID: <3te1qs$25j@next01.biw-ag.de> Hi, I need to mail Doug Harris, the author of WatchSwap. Who knows his current email adress? The one provided in the info panel of WatchSwap (dough@bou.shl.com) doesn't work. What do "bou" and "shl" stand for? Thanks in advance for any help! -- Pirmin Braun; BIW GmbH; Werkstr. 24; 71384 Weinstadt; Germany Phone: 0049 7151 602 204; Fax: 0049 7151 602 341 #include <StandardDisclaimers.h>
From: Gregory John Casamento <gcasa@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WANTED: Program to allow printing to Dot matrix printers Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:26:09 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950705102233.9564A-100000@rac10.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am *NOT* looking for "DOTS" here. Does anyone have an idea where I can get such a program (prefereably public domain/freeware/shareware)??? Thanks, Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu Stop Senate Bill 314!! It threatens the very fabric of the INTERNETs existence. Please see http://www.phantom.com/~slowdog for details. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: na199@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Times with rounded letter 'v' Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 07:23:27 GMT Organization: Free-Net Erlangen Nuernberg, Germany Message-ID: <3tdelfFb9i@uni-erlangen.de> Who can give some advice: I'm looking for a font very similar to Times with a letter `v' with a rounded bottom, not the pointesd one as here. The rounded bottoim is only necessary in italic form, because in the other form it looks like the greek nu. I intend to change the normal (italic) Times `v` for the other one (the rest of times will be left in peace. Thanks in advance hh -- bye -- hh
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: MIDI on NeXT doesn't work. Date: 5 Jul 1995 16:08:00 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <3tedd0$efm@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> References: <3tdm38$rvv@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Timo Fleisch (un7p@rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) wrote: : : I'll quote something from the nextmusic mailing list... : who do I subscribe to the nextmusic mailing list? : -- : Timo Fleisch +++ eMail: Timo.Fleisch@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de I'll put the addresses here. Be warned that it has been very quiet of late. The mkdist and cmdist mailing lists, also. The archives should be vey useful, though. And questions get answered. Send article submissions only to: nextmusic@eecs.umich.edu Send all other administrative requests (subscribe/unsubscribe/change) to: nextmusic-request@eecs.umich.edu Archives and other goodies are now available via anonymous ftp: ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/nextmusic MiscKit1.4.1 (which contains sound objects) is in the archives! cmdist and mkdist refer to mailing lists for common music and the musicKit. cmdist-request@ccrma.stanford.edu mkdist-request@ccrma.stanford.edu Again, there are archives. Poke around ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu -Peter Foster
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: MIDI on NeXT doesn't work. Date: 5 Jul 1995 16:14:36 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <3tedpc$efm@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> References: <3tedd0$efm@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> Peter Foster (foster@aix1.uottawa.ca) wrote: <deletia> : Again, there are archives. Poke around ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu Oops, thats ccrma-ftp, not ftp-ccrma. : -Peter Foster
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader Date: 5 Jul 1995 03:31:24 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3td12c$s82@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt> <3svok6$8au@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <1995Jul3.195437.19737@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu wrote: > I am having problems too. NutNews opens, then crashes. Newsgrazer > works much of the time (Intel) but hangs often. The Alexandra > archive which is labeled NIHS has only the HP binary and the site > in Germany which has this has been inaccessible for days. NewsGrazer's problems are usually with articles that have some characteristic that NewsGrazer isn't expecting. One common problem is from articles that are cross-posted to a lot of newsgroups. Another one is from articles that don't have a "Lines:" header line (or have a value on it which is obviously absurd). In any case, the binaries of the latest version of Alexandra are available at URL: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Alexandra_f (which is a directory that contains a number of files). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compressed file system Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 20:26:31 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1995Jul5.202631.5123@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <3tcg1i$6nt@duck.inetnebr.com> In article <3tcg1i$6nt@duck.inetnebr.com> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) writes: > Hans Stoeger (hans@onevision.de) wrote: > : Just be carefull... > : The Problem with 3 GB drives ( really drives with more than 2 GB) is > : the installation.... > : Partioning, disktab entries,... all the bad things of UNIX... > : Maybe we might ask for clean support of drives/partitions > 2 GB? > > Ok, I'm confused, now. I remember hearing before 3.3 came out that it > was going to include support for SCSI hard drives up to 9GB. What's > the deal? Anybody out there seen a NS system with such a large storage > device? 3.3 will partition a 9Gb drive automatically, and will let you mount > 2 Gb NFS partitions. It still doesn't support > 2 Gb disk partitions for local drives. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
From: sumcheng@icon.intercon.net (Sum Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Format of NeXTSTEP CD-ROM Date: 6 Jul 1995 09:18:49 GMT Organization: Internet Connections, HongKong Message-ID: <3tg9pp$i2a@icon1.intercon.net> Hello! Can any one tell me is the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM for INTEL is ISO9660 format or not? Thank! Sum Cheng sumcheng@icon.intercon.net
From: Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Format of NeXTSTEP CD-ROM Date: 6 Jul 1995 10:06:30 GMT Organization: NaixT - The NEXTSTEP Usergroup Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <3tgcj6$6ms@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3tg9pp$i2a@icon1.intercon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is not. ;-) Sebastian P.S.: It's BSD4.3 Big Endian _______________________________________________________________________________ Sebastian Niesen sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Student Of Computer Science Tel: +49-(0)241-911409 RWTH Aachen http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WANTED: Program to allow printing to Dot matrix printers Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 13:42:03 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950706131951.18235B-100000@hphalle5j.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950705102233.9564A-100000@rac10.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950705102233.9564A-100000@rac10.wam.umd.edu> On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Gregory John Casamento wrote: > > I am *NOT* looking for "DOTS" here. Does anyone have an idea where I can > get such a program (prefereably public domain/freeware/shareware)??? > Here is the solution to the always asked questions for printing on non-postscript printers: 1) get the latest version of ghostscript from GNU (ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/gnu/ghostscript) 2) get the latest version of ghostHPDJ. (ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/printer/ ghostHPDJ.0.2.I.bs.tar.gz) 3) Read the instructions supplied with ghostHPDJ and ghostscript: here is a short summary: - replace the time.h includes in the unix makefile - add NeXT specific compilation flag - add _all_ your system fonts to the fonts file using a script supplied with ghostHPDJ - run diff on ps.init from ghostscript and ghostHPDJ and replace the general special characters of ghostscript with those supplied with ghostHPDJ (this enables special NeXT character printing) 4) Did you really read both instructions? 5) Go and and make/make install ghostscript 6) Add a new printer of type Unknown to the system 7) Run HostConfig and alter the printer settings as described in ghostHPDJ 8) adjust the execution script to your personal taste (I replaced pp0cat with the standard cat, which works much fuster in conjunction with ghostscript and unfortunately doesn't show up the dev/pp0 problem with buffer overflow!) 9) Have fun with your no-cost postscript output :) Greetings, Boerny. P.S.: You'll only need ghostHPDJ for the instructions of installing an unknown printer. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) Look at http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/ scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de, scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de 'X is what it was designed for --- to open multiple terminal windows.' T.W.
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,maus.sys.next Subject: NXHost Problem! Please HELP!! Date: 6 Jul 1995 12:00:56 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tgj9o$g9d@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: -NXHost, YP Hello, I have asked this before but gotten no response. In the meantime I did more testing: * all works fine on a BLACK machine running NS3.2 * all works fine on black and while machines with NS3.3 ..but on my WHITE NS3.2 machine it does not work! For completeness: i am running yellow pages (NIS), which is not the case on the other machines I could test. Here my original post: on my NS3.2 Intel-based NeXT I am having a very nasty problem using -NXHost. I narrowed it down to the following: If I try, on my machine named "mynext", to do /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost mynext everything works fine: the app comes up, i can copy/paste, all services entries are present. However, if I try on mynext: /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost mynext.in.its.full.domaine then the app comes up, i can open windows, but as soon as I try to copy or paste s.th., the app crashes and I get a "Bus error". Can anyone help with some suggestions as to what could be wrong here? I tried the same on a good old black machine (NS3.3) and there both calls work fine without problems. Unfortunately I do not have access to another intel-based NeXT. Could someone else please try on her/his intel-based NeXT the above command and tell me if it worked there? Thanks a lot for any help or pointers you could give me, Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: lexmark printer too slow Date: 6 Jul 1995 12:41:54 GMT Organization: Hot Technologies Message-ID: <3tglmi$863@dalesbred.terra.net> References: <3tf223$cgh@news-e1a.megaweb.com> pierre@chaos.fcbs.com (Thomas Piergallini) wrote: > I have a Lexmark Optra R printer attached to my NSFIP via the parallel > port. It is a postscript printer. > When I was running NS 3.2, it printed almost instantly. > now that I am running NS 3.3, it takes two minutes to print out an ASCII > page of text. 4 minutes for a page of postscript. > I installed the ParrallelPortDriver1.2 found out on ftp.dn.net. > Still runs slow. > I installed the PPD found on ftp.lexmark.com. > Still runs slow (but the options on the print panel are way cool now). > The printer is a bi-directional and i think I remember reading somewhere > that NS does not support this. > I turned off BI-D, still did not help. > Any ideas? > \\pierre > reply to : pierre@nova.org.{MIME/NeXTmail} The best way to improve speed is to get an Ethernet interface for your Optra. What system do you have and what options do you have for your parallel port? I have an Optra L and it's pretty fast. -- Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant HTI Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Training Message-ID: <1995Jul6.170305.1340@ittpub> From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis) Date: 6 Jul 95 17:03:05 WET References: <3tdjhs$35n@foxbat.pix.za> blagoja@nxtlocal.core.org.za (Blagoja Pardulski) wrote: >We are looking for training on Advanced NeXTSTEP and EOF in either the USA >or Europe, but the training should be given in English. Our secondary >interest would be in advanced NetInfo and OO Analysis and Design. We are >looking for training during September to November 1995. The training is >for one person. >We are aware of NeXT original courses in the USA, but it does not appear >that the Advanced NeXTSTEP training is available in Q3 1995, and we do not >have a schedule for Q4 1995. >Please advise on available NeXT authorized courses and reply to: > blagoja@core.org.za You could try: Shared Objectives Postbus 566 NL-1420 CB Uithoorn The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)29 75 31 658 Fax: +32 (0)29 75 31 668 I've been on a course with them and thought it was pretty good (and in English!).
From: james@aleph (James Strohschein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apps for helping one learn German? Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:48:14 GMT Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3th7ku$1jng@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Hi; I'm needing to learn German quickly; I'm wondering if there are NeXT Apps that could help me. I vaguely remember reading of someone who was developing software to aid language aquisition. This work was being done at some University; I don't remember where or which. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks. --- James Strohschein High Power Laser Group Electrical Engineering University of Alberta
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quieter fan Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:58:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu Anybody have a solution to what I consider an outrageously loud fan in my black NeXT slab? It's not broken...just 'loud by design.' Certainly there are quieter fans on the market. Anyone ever replace the one that came with the original computer who is now experiencing more peaceful sailing? Thanks. John NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates) Subject: Help! SPARCstation Voyager's floppy drive is too slow... Message-ID: <lorgbDBB5rq.AE8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 18:52:38 GMT Sender: lorgb@netcom13.netcom.com It took 45 minutes to delete 1.2 meg file from the floppy. I guess you got the picture. Here is my configuration: SPARCstation Voyager, 32M RAM, 340 Gig Hard Drive Nextstep 3.3 I'll appreciate if anyone give me a hint/patch to speed up the floppy drive. Thanks
From: ronnieg@pic.net (ronnie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: purchaser of software maybe Date: 6 Jul 1995 19:03:32 GMT Organization: PICnet Message-ID: <3thc24$na0@gandalf.pic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 I might be interested in buying a copy of NeXSTEP. E-mail me and let me know what you have. Thanks Ronnie
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to get NS at educational discount? Date: 6 Jul 1995 19:24:53 GMT Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Message-ID: <3thda5$sno@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Where can I order NeXTstep (for an intel machine) at an academic discount? Any info, esp a phone number and email address, much appreciated. Thanks, Chris ========================================================================= Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324 University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745 Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-2660 ========================================================================= --
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD Player which is programmable?? Date: 6 Jul 1995 22:16:12 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <3thnbc$b38@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Is there such a thing for NS3.3 ? That is I'd like to be able to make my own selections as opposed to CD Player's random approach (or am I missing something really obvious here? )...Any info would be appreciated...Philip -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Panic during shutdown Date: 7 Jul 1995 13:06:46 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tjbh6$108h@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Howdy all, I have run into a strange problem under 3.3 FIP. Whenever I try to shutdown my machine it panics. After I logout and get the login panel, I click the shutdown button. The screen changes to the low res shutdown screen and then the spinning disk freezes. The machine is dead. The only thing that will revive it is the reset button. Rebooting and executing a: sync;sync;halt (as root of course) will give the little panic window with the standard 'monitor' and 'reboot' options. After playing around I have determined that if I kill 'lookupd' by hand the machine will panic (almost instantly). I'm guessing that the machine is panicing when shutdown tries to kill all processes (including lookupd). Any ideas on why this may happen? All thoughts appreciated. - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unpacking multidisk zip files Date: 7 Jul 95 07:47:17 Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept Distribution: world Message-ID: <SMITHW.95Jul7074717@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu> I have a large file that was zipped by someone on a PC and I need to unpack it on a slab running 3.3. I tried Opener.app but it complains that it does not support multidisk unzip. I tried loading the contents onto the slab and catting then unzipping but of course it still believes the file is a multivolume one. Any hope? I'm desparate. Thanks -Bill -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Question: new stty for black NeXT exists ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 7 Jul 1995 14:35:56 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tjgoc$jde@mailer.york.ac.uk> References: <95Jun23.134052@ee.stanford.edu> <1995Jun28.082835.26344@proximus.north.de> Gerhard Mpller (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote: > Finally: NeXTs stty does not understand "sane", does anyone know a > stty that does? i use reset(1) and then 'stty dec' which usually clears up any problems. i believe that the 'sane' option of stty is a SysVism. cheers, rog.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unpack multidisk zip archive on slab? Help! Message-ID: <1995Jul5.223833.2313@physc1.byu.edu> From: smithw@physc1.byu.edu Date: 5 Jul 95 22:38:33 -0600 Distribution: world Organization: Brigham Young University I have a multidisk zipped file (a compressed file [compressed using zip] spread over several disks) which I would like to unpack on my slab. I tried Opener.app but it does not support multivolume files. I tried catting the disk contents into one file but Opener still detects it as a multivolume file and won't do the job. Anything out there that will unpack a multidisk zip archive on black hardware (running 3.2)? Help!
From: williams@williams (David N. Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 7 Jul 1995 15:36:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: : Anybody have a solution to what I consider an outrageously loud fan in my : black NeXT slab? It's not broken...just 'loud by design.' Certainly there : are quieter fans on the market. Anyone ever replace the one that came with : the original computer who is now experiencing more peaceful sailing? We have 8 black slabs, and the fans are all inaudible. Sounds to me like yours is broken. --David _ __ _____________________________________________________________ (_\(__ _|__) David N. Williams Phone: 1-(313)-764-5236 __|___ Physics Department Email: David.N.Williams@umich.edu \ |:-) University of Michigan \| Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120
From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 11:59:31 -0500 Organization: Mitre Corporation Message-ID: <jbf-0707951159310001@djatwood.mitre.org> References: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu>, john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) wrote: > Anybody have a solution to what I consider an outrageously loud fan in my > black NeXT slab? It's not broken...just 'loud by design.' Make a gasket to go between the fan and the case. Barney
From: memerick@welchlink.uoregon.edu (MARK C. EMERICK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Black Mouse Request Date: 7 Jul 1995 16:30:09 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <3tjneh$gms@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Both mouse buttons on my NextStation are now broken. Does anyone have a spare (black) mouse to sell, or know where I can buy a new one, or (best of all) know where I could buy the little three-pronged switces, since those are all I really need? Any help would be appreciated. Mark
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Date: 7 Jul 1995 11:48:32 -0500 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Message-ID: <3tjoh0$7jd@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> References: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> David N. Williams (williams@williams) wrote: : John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: : : Anybody have a solution to what I consider an outrageously loud fan in my : : black NeXT slab? It's not broken...just 'loud by design.' Certainly there : : are quieter fans on the market. Anyone ever replace the one that came with : : the original computer who is now experiencing more peaceful sailing? : We have 8 black slabs, and the fans are all inaudible. Sounds to me like : yours is broken. Are your slabs turbo or not? The turbo fans (no pun intended you aero dudes out there) have roughly twice the amperage rating as best I can remember and have greater output in CFM. A turbo fan *will* be louder than a non-turbo fan because it moves more air. I'm not sure a gasket would help defeat aerodynamic noises. Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where to get NS at educational discount? Date: 6 Jul 1995 21:42:59 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <3thld4$kq7@news.nd.edu> References: <3thda5$sno@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) wrote: >Where can I order NeXTstep (for an intel machine) at an academic >discount? Any info, esp a phone number and email address, much >appreciated. >Thanks, >Chris >========================================================================= >Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu >Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324 >University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745 >Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-2660 >========================================================================= >-- Hello, Try Object Technology Inc. for educational bundles. Phone: 1-800-452 7608. Best Regards, Amir
From: vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 7 Jul 1995 20:13:27 GMT Organization: Hogskolen i Stavanger Message-ID: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware architectures. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? I've never heard of sucha thing before. Lars.
From: rworne@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apps for helping one learn German? Date: 7 Jul 1995 21:40:10 GMT Organization: Primenet Message-ID: <3tk9jq$2q2@hang.primenet.com> References: <3th7ku$1jng@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> james@aleph (James Strohschein) wrote: > Hi; > I'm needing to learn German quickly; I'm wondering if there are NeXT Apps that could help me. I vaguely remember reading of someone who was developing software to aid language aquisition. This work was being done at some University; I don't remember where or which. I have an app that was part of the EDU sampler, It had a Native German speaker pronounce the vowels and had you speak into a mic to compare. This is the only app I have seen that fits the bill... -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Worne Team OS/2, NeXT, Linux, etc. rworne@primenet.com NeXTMAIL Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: conklic@ln1d272nwk (Charlie Conklin) Subject: TransSys PNI with US-Robotics Courier Message-ID: <1995Jul7.095921.1919@il.us.swissbank.com> Keywords: slip, modem Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:59:21 GMT Is anyone out there using TranSys PNI slip with a US Robotics 28.8 Courier? There does not seem to be a dial script for one. I tried using the worldport script (which someone suggested), but that did not work very well. I am on intel hardware, running NeXTStep 3.3. Thanks for any help. - Charlie Conklin conklic@swissbank.com
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TransSys PNI with US-Robotics Courier Date: 7 Jul 1995 22:57:26 GMT Organization: Hot Technologies Message-ID: <3tke4m$1km@dalesbred.terra.net> References: <1995Jul7.095921.1919@il.us.swissbank.com> conklic@ln1d272nwk (Charlie Conklin) wrote: > Is anyone out there using TranSys PNI slip with a US Robotics 28.8 > Courier? There does not seem to be a dial script for one. I tried using > the worldport script (which someone suggested), but that did not > work very well. I am on intel hardware, running NeXTStep 3.3. > Thanks for any help. > - Charlie Conklin conklic@swissbank.com This may not be the answer you were looking for but... TransSys has dropped support for PNI SLIP. You are better off with ppp2.0 and GateKeeper.app. They were relatively simple to install. -- Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant HTI Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: which TransSys (1.13 / 1.9) to recommend Message-ID: <DBCD8z.oo@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <3tdj0t$2du@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:31:47 GMT In article <3tdj0t$2du@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) writes: > Hi, > > I need to install a SLIP package and found the 1.13 and the 1.9beta > versions of TransSys. Which version would you recommend, looking at > features, stability and ofcourse ease of install. I am happy with the prior dialupip package, which is a TransSys product as well. Comes with dial on demand etc. for free. Almost everything you want, apart from VJ header compression for which a license ($$) was needed which is said to be hard to get since Louis dropped the NS support. While I heard PNI offered more configuration possibiliites, dialupip should be easier to configure plus offer more features. dialupip runs on black only, to my knowledge. Juergen --- Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49 511 4406-17 == What time do we live in when a wine's class matters more than its taste, == when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: Joe Freeman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Date: 7 Jul 1995 18:52:42 GMT Organization: US Net Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3tjvpr$ef@news.us.net> References: <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In that vein, does anyone know where a high capacity replacement fan? In article <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> williams@williams (David N. Williams) writes: > We have 8 black slabs, and the fans are all inaudible. Sounds to me like > yours is broken. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting company. Now located in MD Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT,MIME,ASCII Mail)
From: rollie@next.com (Matt Rollefson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Format of NeXTSTEP CD-ROM Date: 8 Jul 1995 02:02:45 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <3tkp05$i32@news.next.com> References: <3tg9pp$i2a@icon1.intercon.net> In comp.sys.next.misc sumcheng@icon.intercon.net (Sum Cheng) writes: > Can any one tell me is the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM for INTEL is ISO9660 format > or not? It's not; it's in NEXTSTEP's own BSD 4.3 derived format. Matt Rollefson (Rollie) NEXTSTEP Training
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unpack multidisk zip archive on slab? Help! Date: 8 Jul 1995 13:19:07 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tm0kb$s1c@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <1995Jul5.223833.2313@physc1.byu.edu> smithw@physc1.byu.edu wrote: : I have a multidisk zipped file (a compressed file [compressed using zip] : spread over several disks) which I would like to unpack on my slab. : I tried Opener.app but it does not support multivolume files. I tried : catting the disk contents into one file but Opener still detects it : as a multivolume file and won't do the job. Anything out there that : will unpack a multidisk zip archive on black hardware (running 3.2)? : Help! Well, I did try the same thing couple of weeks ago too, but without success. I ended up with writing a small program on the PC that could split a file. So my scenario now is: compress using gzip (could also be pkzip) on the PC, split into 1.4MB parts, copy to floppies, transfer to NeXT, cat to one file and uncompress using gzip -d. If you like I could send you the splitting program. Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 8 Jul 1995 13:27:38 GMT Organization: Hot Technologies Message-ID: <3tm14a$6nq@dalesbred.terra.net> References: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) wrote: > I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has > "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to > create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware > architectures. > HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? > I've never heard of sucha thing before. > Lars. Because MAB programs contain executable code for all architectures (that the programmer specified) plus a shared data segment. Furthermore, the majority of the user interface is stored in architecture independent .nib files. If a new architecture is released (for example, MIPS or Alpha), developers will need to recompile their programs. The NeXT loader loads the appropriate architecture for your system when you execute the program. -- Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant HTI Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Black Mouse Request Date: 8 Jul 1995 15:28:53 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3tm87l$r3q@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <3tjneh$gms@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> MARK C. EMERICK (memerick@welchlink.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Both mouse buttons on my NextStation are now broken. Does anyone have : a spare (black) mouse to sell, or know where I can buy a new one, or : (best of all) know where I could buy the little three-pronged switces, : since those are all I really need? Any help would be appreciated. As you say: all you need to do is to change the switches with a soldering iron. The Part Numbers are: Omron 23XORAD D2F-01 The biggest problem is that they are usually sold by 100 pieces or so. Otto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) Date: 4 Jul 95 10:58:21 MDT References: <3ta5rn$a6n@dalesbred.terra.net> Distribution: world In article <3ta5rn$a6n@dalesbred.terra.net> writes: > I also do not recommend getting dual Pentium systems. However, the release > of P6 (Intel 686) later this year will change this. It will be much easier > for manufacturers to create SMP systems and the software will be simplier > as well. NeXT should consider supporting P6 SMP. I don't see why they > won't either. > > Robert La Ferla > Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant > + 1 (617) 252-0088 > > <munch a bunch> I don't think the intel route is a good one either but if they offer powerpc support it would be a feather int there cap to support Firepowers dual power pc workstation. Thats what I'm betting on plus support for the single powerpc workstations. I think Next could grab a substantial share of the powerpc market. Once someone has decided to go with a powerpc over Intel having the choice of and excellent Unix implematation would be great. I think your going to see a substatial number of powerpc workstations once sombody gets a good unix on them. Why not the performace is in the range of Sun and HP and there much cheaper. I don't think the port is that hard for them and in this case why not take the gamble and see what happens. I know I for one will dump my intel system in a heartbeat and I expect the hardware quality to be up to the same standerds as IBM and Macintosh. I have had no problems with any PCI components on my Intel system so I expect that the PCI based powerpc systems should not have any problems either. This is a big maket waiting for something besides AIX, NT and Macintosh OS's. If the port is as trivial is I suspect it is why not do it? Mike
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 7 Jul 1995 15:12:45 -0500 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3tk4ft$7ri@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> References: <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3tjvpr$ef@news.us.net> JoeFreeman wrote: : In that vein, does anyone know where a high capacity replacement fan? I replaced the EDINA (ELINA?) fan in my turbo slab with a Panasonic Panaflow fan from DigiKey (800-344-4539). Digikey part # P9738-ND for $11.88 qty. 1. Here are the specs: Input Power (W):....2.1 Air Flow (CFM):.....39.6 Air Press. (mm H2o):3.78 Noise (dB-A):.......32.0 I also bought a little connector for the leads at a local electronics store. It still makes noise, but the frequency is not as high as the EDINA and so is more tolerable. If you find a quieter one that still outputs the same volume of air, please let me know. Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Message-ID: <1995Jul8.131820.12324@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. References: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 13:18:20 GMT In article <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes: >I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has >"multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to >create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware >architectures. > >HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? > >I've never heard of sucha thing before. > >Lars. Basically, the compiler that NeXT ships with 3.3 (modified GNU) is capable of producing code for all 4 architectures that are currently shipping. The have a format for binaries that allows them to store multiple sets of code, and the machine that's running the code looks up the correct section for the CPU it's running. The executables get bigger as you add architectures, but they don't double in size, since the resources (nibs, tiffs, etc) are architecture independent. Ken Anderson anderson@biztech.com
From: root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 8 Jul 1995 22:04:02 GMT Organization: Network Intensive Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tmvci$hmi@ni1.ni.net> References: <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> In article <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> writes: > In article <3ta5rn$a6n@dalesbred.terra.net> writes: > > I also do not recommend getting dual Pentium systems. However, the > release > > of P6 (Intel 686) later this year will change this. It will be much [snip] > I don't think the intel route is a good one either but if they offer > powerpc support it would be a feather int there cap to support Firepowers > dual power pc workstation. Thats what I'm betting on plus support for the > single powerpc workstations. I think Next could grab a substantial share > of the powerpc market. Once someone has decided to go with a powerpc over > Intel having the choice of and excellent Unix implematation would be > great. I think your going to see a substatial number of powerpc > workstations once sombody gets a good unix on them. Why not the performace > is in the range of Sun and HP and there much cheaper. I don't think the > port is that hard for them and in this case why not take the gamble and > see what happens. I know I for one will dump my intel system in a > heartbeat and I expect the hardware quality to be up to the same standerds > as IBM and Macintosh. I have had no problems with any PCI components on > my Intel system so I expect that the PCI based powerpc systems should not > have any problems either. This is a big maket waiting for something > besides AIX, NT and Macintosh OS's. If the port is as trivial is I suspect > it is why not do it? > > Mike Gee, why does'nt NeXT support every minor chip and architecture? For that matter why don't they supply a driver for my toaster (its electrical)? If I was NeXT and given an infinite number of things to do, a port to the PowerPC would not rate in my top thousand priorities (unless a 5000 seat site demands it). Exactly what is it that some people seem to see in the PowerPC? Personally, I'm a fan of the MIPS processors and yet I don't speak of them in religious terms. With sound financial advice such as a port to the PowerPC (in the hope :-) that it will become mainstream), NeXT could be filing for bankruptcy by years end. -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill Agoura Hills, CA # one's fellow citizens, to betray # friends, to be without faith, without root@terra.crystalengine.com # mercy, without religion; by these means (NeXTmail preferred) # one can aquire power but not glory. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Major Problem Upgrading to 3.3 Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 17:26:12 -0700 Organization: Trilithon Software Message-ID: <henry-0807951726120001@trilithon.com> I'm having a major problem upgrading to 3.3 on my Black Slab. The Slab is a fairly standard NextStation with 20 MB RAM and a 1,000MB hard disk. When I launch the upgrader app it crashes with this message in the console: Jul 7 10:41:29 localhost Upgrader[369]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 3f6c68 Jul 7 10:41:29 localhost Upgrader[369]: %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: nextimage ]%% I tried two different CD ROM drives and get the same problem. I then bypassed the upgrade path and did a full install from scratch. Now the window server croaks with the same symptoms (rangecheck in nextimage) when it tries to put up the login panel. I even copied a window server and loginpanel.app from another 3.3 system, and that didn't work either. I had to revert to 3.2 because this thing didn't work. Anybody have any great ideas? This is completely bizarre. Cheers, ........ Henry
From: jens@myhost (Jens Kleemann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 7 Jul 1995 17:55:48 GMT Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main Message-ID: <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> <3ti5b5$2ek@regina.seh.codem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What the hell ... Why are you so eager to get MP-support in the next versions of nextstep ?? I don't think it would help that much. They should concentrate their manpower on drivers & bugfixing right now. On the other hand the application developers should start to incorporate Distributed & Portable Distributed Objects in current projects. And Next should work on drivers for FAST-Ethernet (dont care what solution it will be). Its much more easier (and by far much less frustrating) to get a new computer, install NS, plug it to the net and start using its resources. I think of NeXTStep as the best graphical frontend to computing power - I dream of a HP-Server running PDO. That would be much more economic and easier to administrate than MP Systems. That's (in my opinion) the best way for bigger companies. I am working on a P90,64MB Ram and two Gigs of diskspace - accompanied by an ELSA-Winner graphics card. As long as i am not into realtime renderings and number crunching, interactivity & response times will suffice at least one or two more years. Im about to install NS on my girlfriends PC and will use it as a render-slave & Movie-Generator. If i will need more CPU-Time, i will rather buy a third PC or SPARC or HP or whatever and plug it to my net instead of changing my board everytime a new MP-Implementation is about to come. I, for myself, have come to the following conclusions: - Keep my personal workstation fast enough for smooth response-times. - Instead of getting blue ocone-plague and become totally crazy because of sirring CPU-vents, stay cool and oeconomic (thats another important point) - Add old Computers to the net (they can be turned off any time you don't need them and prevent pollution) before getting new boards. - Kick ass (1) and get next to be more conscious about new networking technology (specifically 100MBit-Support) and change the price of PDO. - Kick ass (2) and get more people to implement PDO and DO Take a look at SGI machines: INDIGOS & CRIMSONS as workstations CHALLENGER as servers By the way: I asked a german NS-representative of MP-Support about the time the first MP-Board (ASUS) came up. He lead me to the Mandelbrot-Server (a SPARC) and said: Our customers have no demand on MP. And i agreed at once. Look at the market: New RAM-Technology is about to infiltrate personal computing (EDO, RAMBUS,...). New SCSI-Standard are on the way. CPUs are getting faster and faster. Thats heaven for distributed computing and second hand computer stores (and TNG-freaks) The only things i adore right now: 3D-Accellerators for NS, and a 21" LCD Display.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Black Mouse Request Date: 9 Jul 1995 02:25:18 GMT Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tneme$hkh@emerald.oz.net> References: <3tjneh$gms@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> In article <3tjneh$gms@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> memerick@welchlink.uoregon.edu (MARK C. EMERICK) writes: > Both mouse buttons on my NextStation are now broken. Does anyone have > a spare (black) mouse to sell, or know where I can buy a new one, or > (best of all) know where I could buy the little three-pronged switces, > since those are all I really need? Any help would be appreciated. > This was posted recently: My left mouse button also broke several months ago, and I also couldn't find an exact replacement for the button inside my mouse. But I did find a switch that works just dandy. It's made by Cherry. According to the Digi-Key catalog I have in front of me, the Cherry part number is: DG2C-B1AA The Digi-Key part number is: CH167-ND Digi-Key's phone number for orders (including catalog requests I presume) is 1-800-DIGIKEY. Their service number is (218) 681-6674. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154 Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <rfenney-080795214638@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> <3ti5b5$2ek@regina.seh.codem.com> <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:57:16 GMT In article <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>, jens@myhost (Jens Kleemann) wrote: > What the hell ... > >> Stuff cut << The problem with all of this is that the MP motherboards are CHEEP! a 2 CPU P5-100 is $1400-$1600 and they are only going to get cheeper. The advantage of having an SMP version of NS is in development and in the design deployment semi-autonomous systems. And yes we can use PDO for this. BUT we where promused SMP support 2-3 YEARS ago!!!!! AND I can not be the only one that is tired of waiting for it! I am in the process of starting a new venture and I REQUIRE SMP support to make the venture praticle. I am evaluating a number of platforms and development environments and would settle for OpenStep on SMP SUN or DEC (HP?) I will NOT be using NT or any other MS products (why help the compition MS competes with EVERYONE!) I may bbe using Smalltalk if I can't get an ObjC environment :(. The future of computing is SMP and NeXT needs to step up to the plate or be left behind. Steve has been a visionary in the past, he has to see the linear systems and OS's are going to get nuked shortly? All of the alternative OS's have SMP version's Next should too. Just my 2c's Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Stephane LUNATI <slunati@improve.fdn.org> Subject: Driver for Number9 FX Motion 771 available ? Message-ID: <1995Jul9.092902.7078@improve.fdn.org> Keywords: Number9 driver 3.3 Sender: news@improve.fdn.org Organization: improve SA - La Defense, Paris, France. Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:29:02 GMT Hello netters... I ve got a video card Number9 FX Motion 771 with 2Mo VRAM PCI Bus, and I wanna know if there is a driver available for it for NS 3.3... or a place to find information about this card, and why not write a driver for it... Any clue welcome !! Stephane ---- Stephane LUNATI <Stephane_LUNATI@improve.fdn.org>
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:15:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3tq9gi$lof@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Mark Booth <markb@asysa.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: That ole 'follow-focus' chestnut...... Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:10:53 GMT Organization: Advanced System Architectures Ltd. Message-ID: <DBCyI7.FG@asysa.demon.co.uk> I dont want to start a 'NeXTstep is perfect' 'Is not' etc. flame war, but I have been looking everywhere for the solution to this problem, I have been reading the *.next.* newsgroups for a coulple of weeks, I have scoured the archive sites and FAQ's etc, but all to no avail. I have an Intel NeXT machine on my desk at work, it is the prefered platform, but I simply cannot get used to having to click on windows to give them input focus. All of the other platforms I have used have keyboard focus following the mouse pointer, for those systems that dont have native support I have been able to obtain programs which emulate this. So in a nutshell, is there *ANY* way I can get follow-focus on my machine? If there is not a program already out there, maybe someone could point me in the right direction to write one. I would prefer not to start delving into mouse event queues etc. but if that is the only way....... Yours, in frustration, Mark........
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:55:30 GMT Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <3tqbs2$df9@duck.inetnebr.com> References: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> Lars Vagle (vagle@hsr.no) wrote: : I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has : "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to : create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware : architectures. : HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? The binaries for each architecture is bundled together in the same file. Different code is loaded and executed on different architectures. It is common to complain that this would take up too much disk space for the executable files, however most installation packages allow you to specify which architectures you would like to install on the machine. Code for other architectures can also be stripped-out using lipo(1). See also arch(3). -- ____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer \ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows." =(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska) U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: "Yue-Herng Lin" <yhlin@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: Driver for Number9 FX Motion 771 available ? Message-ID: <1995Jul10.025327.19391@news.cs.indiana.edu> Keywords: Number9 driver 3.3 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University References: <1995Jul9.092902.7078@improve.fdn.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 02:53:20 -0500 In article <1995Jul9.092902.7078@improve.fdn.org>, Stephane LUNATI <slunati@improve.fdn.org> wrote: >Hello netters... > >I ve got a video card Number9 FX Motion 771 with 2Mo VRAM PCI Bus, and I >wanna know if there is a driver available for it for NS 3.3... or a place >to find information about this card, and why not write a driver for it... > >Any clue welcome !! > >Stephane > >---- >Stephane LUNATI <Stephane_LUNATI@improve.fdn.org> Me too!! YH
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 10 Jul 1995 08:30:20 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tqoes$90n@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> Lars Vagle (vagle@hsr.no) wrote: / I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has / "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to / create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware / architectures. / HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? NEXTSTEP stores all processor-independent files once, and the (processor- dependent) binary is stored for each architecture. But, there aren`t 4 files - you only see one. The <name>.app file, which consists of the binary (including code for each architecture) and the other files. / I've never heard of sucha thing before. It`s a NEXTSTEP-specific file-format! -- Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: yackd@xmission.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: That ole 'follow-focus' chestnut...... Date: 10 Jul 1995 10:54:49 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <3tr0tp$osr@news.xmission.com> References: <DBCyI7.FG@asysa.demon.co.uk> Mark Booth <markb@asysa.demon.co.uk> wrote: > [...] I simply cannot get used to having to click > on windows to give them input focus. All of the other platforms I > have used have keyboard focus following the mouse pointer, [...]. Well, if it is under "X" that you're used to that, then it is basically xterms that get used under "X" anyway. :-0) NeXT's Terminal.app has a "steal keys" mode in the preferences panel that you can use to allow Terminal windows to have point-to-focus rather than click-to-focus. If that isn't enough (for most folks it is enough...) then: > So in a nutshell, is there *ANY* way I can get follow-focus on > my machine? If there is not a program already out there, maybe > someone could point me in the right direction to write one. I > would prefer not to start delving into mouse event queues etc. but > if that is the only way....... A few years ago a hack to the windowserver was posted on these newsgroups. All ya gotta do is download them from the archives and find the hack. :-) Good luck! Scott Anguish just posted the resources stuff pointing at all the archive sites, to off to work you go. I've never wanted point to focus so I have no idea where to look, I just know that it does exist. If you'd rather figure it out yourself than search the archives, you had better know Postscript programming. The windowing package is written in Postscript and can be found in: file://usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps It is plain ASCII text and I know the hack made modifications to that file *only*. So have at it... :-) (Oh, and before you play with it, *back*it*up* because if you mess it up, you'll have to go in using single user mode to restore the old version. Playing with this file could get very hairy!) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu yackd@xmission.com NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <jcarson@mcgh.org> From: Jerry Carson <jcarson@mcgh.org> Message-ID: <9507101548.AA09556@mcgh.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:48:54 -0400 Subject: Sun mounting problem We have a Sun running SunOS Release 4.1.3_DBE1.3 that NFS mounts a directory local to a NeXT running version 3.2. Sometimes, when the Sun makes heavy use of this directory, something breaks and these messages get spit out on the NeXT console: svckudp_send: xdr_replymsg failed nfs_server: bad sendreply from 198.2.0.5 xdr_bytes: bad size FAILED svckudp_send: xdr_replymsg failed nfs_server: bad sendreply from 198.2.0.5 Un-mounting and re-mounting the directory solves the problem for a while, but this is very annoying. Any idea what's going on and how we can fix it? Jerry Carson jcarson@mcgh.org
From: jbn@mystery-train.msilink.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 10 Jul 1995 17:19:54 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <3trnfq$ibh@ill.msilink.com> References: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> <3ta1o3$28e@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> <3ti5b5$2ek@regina.seh.codem.com> <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> In article <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>, jens@myhost (Jens Kleemann) wrote: [article deleted] You'll probably get more responses if you provide a valid From: or Reply-To: address.
From: seltzer@scs.unr.edu (Michael B. Seltzer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Info on getting back to NeXT? Date: 10 Jul 1995 20:20:23 GMT Organization: UCCSN System Computing Services Message-ID: <3ts228$l5o@silver.scs.unr.edu>
From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quieter fan Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:57:37 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <jbf-1007951800480001@mbppp5.mitre.org> References: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> <3tjk9m$8pk@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3tjoh0$7jd@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> In article <3tjoh0$7jd@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com>, trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) wrote: > I'm not sure a gasket > would help defeat aerodynamic noises. Agreed. I suggested a gasket thinking the complaint was mechanical noise. I can't say I've noticed the fan noise, given the drive noise. Barney
From: Matt_Watson@next.com (Matt Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:24:53 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3truq5$6a4@news.next.com> References: <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> In article <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes: > I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has > "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to > create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware > architectures. > > HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE ? > > I've never heard of sucha thing before. > > Lars. > It's quite simple, actually. We just include the source code with an Intel version of the binary (most people use Intel anyway). The kernel re-compiles the binary on the fly for the given architecture, then runs the re-compiled code! It's *that* easy. ;-) -- Matt Watson Sherwood Forestry Division NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: Gary Longsine <glongsi> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 10 Jul 1995 23:15:07 GMT Organization: USWest SA news server Message-ID: <3tsc9r$i0h@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <3truq5$6a4@news.next.com> <3ts1nb$6g7@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read about that... it compresses any file down to one bit, but the rumor i heard was that you're still working on the de-compression stuff... ;) Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM writes: > Sheesh. Matt, we TOLD you not to tease the natives! > > OK. Who wants to bet on how long it is before some third party reposts a > version of Matt's message as a serious answer to how fat binaries work? I > say two months... > > Besides, everyone knows that we really just put binaries for every > architecture in existence in the fat binary, all compressed using our > secret recursive guaranteed to compress even more on each pass lossless > compression scheme. :-} > > Mike Paquette -- ____/| | Gary W. Longsine \ o.O| GPF! | UNIX Systems Analyst, PARANET =(_)= CTLALTDEL! | <glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com> U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | "I don't do Windows."
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: One binary on different CPU HOW ? Date: 10 Jul 1995 20:14:35 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3ts1nb$6g7@news.next.com> References: <3truq5$6a4@news.next.com> In article <3truq5$6a4@news.next.com> Matt_Watson@next.com (Matt Watson) writes: > In article <3tk4h7$4fb@marton.hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes: > > I'm reading on the NeXT WEB server that NeXTstep has > > "multi-architecture" binaries that allow developers to > > create A SINGLE executable that runs on four hardware > > architectures. > > > It's quite simple, actually. We just include the source code with an > Intel version of the binary (most people use Intel anyway). The kernel > re-compiles the binary on the fly for the given architecture, then runs > the re-compiled code! It's *that* easy. > > ;-) Sheesh. Matt, we TOLD you not to tease the natives! OK. Who wants to bet on how long it is before some third party reposts a version of Matt's message as a serious answer to how fat binaries work? I say two months... Besides, everyone knows that we really just put binaries for every architecture in existence in the fat binary, all compressed using our secret recursive guaranteed to compress even more on each pass lossless compression scheme. :-} Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft Corp. for $0.18 per word. Distribution without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <1995Jul10.110736.55717@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) Date: 10 Jul 95 11:07:35 MDT References: <rfenney-080795214638@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Distribution: world In article <rfenney-080795214638@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> writes: > In article <3tjsf4$ct@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>, jens@myhost > (Jens Kleemann) wrote: > > > What the hell ... > > > >> Stuff cut << > > > The problem with all of this is that the MP motherboards are CHEEP! a 2 CPU > P5-100 is $1400-$1600 and they are only going to get cheeper. The advantage > of having an SMP version of NS is in development and in the design > deployment semi-autonomous systems. And yes we can use PDO for this. BUT we > where promused SMP support 2-3 YEARS ago!!!!! AND I can not be the only one > that is tired of waiting for it! I am in the process of starting a new > venture and I REQUIRE SMP support to make the venture praticle. I am > evaluating a number of platforms and development environments and would > settle for OpenStep on SMP SUN or DEC (HP?) I will NOT be using NT or any > other MS products (why help the compition MS competes with EVERYONE!) I may > bbe using Smalltalk if I can't get an ObjC environment :(. The future of > computing is SMP and NeXT needs to step up to the plate or be left behind. > Steve has been a visionary in the past, he has to see the linear systems > and OS's are going to get nuked shortly? All of the alternative OS's have > SMP version's Next should too. > > > > Just my 2c's > > > Robert I think thats my perspective to and one of the main reasons I'm intrested in powerpc over intel is that there processors are cheap compared with intel. This does not make much of a difference in a single proccesor system but in and smp system processor costs can become significant. also the easiest's way's to upgrade a system outside of more memory is to add a cpu. And Nextstep with iths windowing system would benifit tremedously from a second cpu IMHO. I would like to see some of the preformace figures for the dual powerpc that Next did build. I bet the GUI flew. The way I look at it I'm in my system like 8 grand if I could double have doubled the preformance for another thousand or less and had that option it makes good sense to me. SMP also allows you to keep your machine current with the addition of more cpu's. I read a sun estimate that additional cpu's give about a 90% performace gain per cpu. Thus for example if you have and SMP board running P90 you can buy a second P90 and get more performance then buying the leading edge Intel cpu. And if you can except up to four processors then you can actually surpass the performance of all any of the current cpu inf fact should be able to beat the P6 I would think plus the cost of the cpu's your using drops dramarically over time as they are outmoded. In short with and quad smp sytem you can keep your perfomance equvilent to any current single proccesor system until they are about 1/4 the speed of the top single CPU even in todays market this would keep you going for at least two years. But I really think the powerpc is the way to go the processors are faster and cheaper than intel's. I also think the quality of the systems will be substatially better, since Mac and IBM have high quality hardware IMHO and will set the standard (there software is a different story). I don't think a Packered Bell type outfit will last long in the powerpc market. Mike
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 11 Jul 1995 02:11:59 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> <3tmvci$hmi@ni1.ni.net> root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > Gee, why doesn't NeXT support every minor chip and architecture? "minor"? > For that matter why don't they supply a driver for my toaster > (its electrical)? > If I was NeXT and given an infinite number of things to do, a > port to the PowerPC would not rate in my top thousand priorities > (unless a 5000 seat site demands it). Well, given an infinite list of things to do, I guess getting in the top 2000 isn't too bad. > Exactly what is it that some people seem to see in the PowerPC? > Personally, I'm a fan of the MIPS processors and yet I don't > speak of them in religious terms. It's extremely obvious why the PowerPC would be significant. Right now Apple has sold more PowerMacs than any other computer company has sold of any other RISC chip. The highest volume chip, without question, is the Intel series. After you have that covered, why not go for the second highest volume chip? This is not a religious question. It just makes sense. Now there are good reasons to wait before doing a PowerPC port, mainly the question of an evolving standard for PowerPC-based machines. However, thanks to the Mac the PowerPC will ship in more machines than MIPS will (probably) ever show up in. As another example, Sun expects there to be three "winners" in the chip wars. They pick those three to be Intel, PowerPC, and SPARC. Those are the machines they will have Solaris for. The reason they pick SPARC is pretty obvious, but certainly they aren't porting to PowerPC due to some blind religous fervor. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD Player which is programmable?? Date: 11 Jul 1995 02:24:01 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3tsnc1$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3thnbc$b38@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote: > Is there such a thing for NS3.3 ? That is I'd like to be able to > make my own selections as opposed to CD Player's random approach > (or am I missing something really obvious here? )...Any info > would be appreciated...Philip I have mCD.app (music CD player) available at: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/mCD_f It includes source code, so I guess in some sense it's programmable... I do intend to have all kinds of cool database features to make people go ooo and ahh, but I haven't really done that yet. It can recognize individual CD discs (so it can display the correct performer, CD-title, and song titles for the CD), but I haven't added too many hooks for alternate song lists. Note that this is somewhat beta software. It works fine on NeXT hardware (as far as I know), and seems to work fine on Intel hardware. I do not know if anyone has tried it on HP or SPARC hardware. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: reichman@aludra.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: YTALK - how to get it working on NS3.3 m68k??? Date: 11 Jul 1995 10:23:57 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@aludra.usc.edu Message-ID: <3tuc3d$mh2@aludra.usc.edu> Summary: Has anyone gotten it to work? Keywords: ytalk Has anyone gotten ytalk to work? When I try to run it I get the following message: scf> ytalk fey new_user: bad host: 'scf': (no system error) I have no idea what this means or how to remedy it. Is it something to do with the .ytalk.rc file? Help is much appreciated. Matthew -- "Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to install NextStep on a Sparc Station? Date: 11 Jul 1995 17:28:51 GMT Organization: I DID NOT CONFIGURE MY ORGANIZATION IN MY NEWSREADER Distribution: world Message-ID: <3tuccj$8kv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Hi there, I just want to find how easy or troublesome it is to install NextStep on Sparc Station. I would also be very satisfied to get a link to NextAnswers document. Thanks. Please reply to: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with Talus notebook Date: 11 Jul 1995 16:35:13 -0400 Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <3tuna1$7m0@severi.mit.edu> Last fall I bought one of those Talus laptops. It has been a nightmare getting a machine that actually worked. I have been sent several "replacement" machines. Finally I got one that would stay running for more that 30 minutes without crashing, and I just decided to sit tight for a while. I guess a "while" is up. There are still things I can't figure out how to get working and so I am turning to the net. (1) Try as I might I can't get the PCMCIA SCSI card to work. The drivers are installed in the correct order, and the termination power is supplied by the drive to the bus. During boot I first get an identification of the card, and then alter a message saying that the card is not inserted. This is probably a hardware problem, but I just wonder if anyone has any ideas. As you can guess, despite many many calls from me (formerly known as) Talus has offered no help. (2) I am more hopeful about this. Has anyone gotten the Fax to work? I can't figure out how to get the modem recognized. Any thoughts? Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 11 Jul 1995 21:49:25 GMT Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <3turl5$l@ni1.ni.net> References: <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> In comp.sys.next.misc article <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> you wrote: > root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: [snip] > > > Exactly what is it that some people seem to see in the PowerPC? > > Personally, I'm a fan of the MIPS processors and yet I don't > > speak of them in religious terms. > > It's extremely obvious why the PowerPC would be significant. Right > now Apple has sold more PowerMacs than any other computer company > has sold of any other RISC chip. Yes, but even though Apple has sold a great many powerMacs (relatively speaking), not many of these are in NeXT's target audience. >The highest volume chip, without > question, is the Intel series. After you have that covered, why > not go for the second highest volume chip? This is not a religious > question. It just makes sense. > Yes, when NeXT actually does have the Intel market covered (sound fixed, more/better drivers and much deeper market penetration) and are profitable then a PowerPC port will make sense. The ports to SUN and HP made sense because they were paid for by the hardware vendors and they allow NeXT to claim their software runs on a wide array of UNIX workstations which are a mainstay of the MCCA market. > Now there are good reasons to wait before doing a PowerPC port, > mainly the question of an evolving standard for PowerPC-based > machines. I think the reasons not to are mainly financial as I doubt Apple/IBM will pay for it. >However, thanks to the Mac the PowerPC will ship in > more machines than MIPS will (probably) ever show up in. > Quite true, but the MIPS based machines are actually used by a segment of the market that would love NeXT technology and be willing to pay top dollar for it. Essentially, it would cement NeXT's crossplatform support across almost the entire UNIX universe. > As another example, Sun expects there to be three "winners" in > the chip wars. They pick those three to be Intel, PowerPC, and > SPARC. Those are the machines they will have Solaris for. The > reason they pick SPARC is pretty obvious, but certainly they > aren't porting to PowerPC due to some blind religous fervor. > > --- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA This is very amusing on SUN's part. The majority of Mac users I have met bought a Mac primarily because they think the OS is something special (having never seen NeXTStep what do you expect). Since there is no driving reason to buy a Mac for its hardware (more buck for less bang than Intel, and of course fewer hardware options) I fail to see why one of these typical users would want to buy Solaris and apps. Well lets say we agree that the PowerPC has a good chance of surviving as the secondary chip. Further, lets say it manages to hold onto the 8-10% percent market share held by both types of Macs. I still fail to see any sound reasoning that should move NeXT to divert precious resources from 90-92% of the PC market to support a chip that is not used by their target audience. As for the potential of the PowerPC, I fail to understand why companies such as Compaq, Packard Bell, Dell, Gateway, ...etc would want to buy a critical piece of their technology from a significant competitor. -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill Agoura Hills, CA # one's fellow citizens, to betray # friends, to be without faith, without root@terra.crystalengine.com # mercy, without religion; by these means (NeXTmail preferred) # one can aquire power but not glory. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: m@bang.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to install NextStep on a Sparc Station? Date: 11 Jul 1995 22:53:19 GMT Organization: a2i network Message-ID: <3tuvcv$p9o@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3tuccj$8kv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de wrote: > I just want to find how easy or troublesome it is to install NextStep on Sparc Station. Assuming it is a Sparc 4,5,10,20, or Voyager, it is exceedingly easy. M Carling -- Microsoft Network is prohibited from reproducing this work, in whole or in part. Copyright 1995, M Carling. License is available to Microsoft Network to reproduce this work for $1000. Unauthorized reproduction by Microsoft Network constitutes agreement to these terms. Please report violations to m@bang.org and postmaster@microsoft.com.
From: seh@seh.codem.com (Stephen E. Halpin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 11 Jul 1995 21:58:06 GMT Organization: Personal Networks Message-ID: <3tus5e$2a7@regina.seh.codem.com> References: <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> <3tmvci$hmi@ni1.ni.net> <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: >> Gee, why doesn't NeXT support every minor chip and architecture? > >"minor"? > >> For that matter why don't they supply a driver for my toaster >> (its electrical)? > >> If I was NeXT and given an infinite number of things to do, a >> port to the PowerPC would not rate in my top thousand priorities >> (unless a 5000 seat site demands it). > >Well, given an infinite list of things to do, I guess getting >in the top 2000 isn't too bad. > >> Exactly what is it that some people seem to see in the PowerPC? >> Personally, I'm a fan of the MIPS processors and yet I don't >> speak of them in religious terms. > >It's extremely obvious why the PowerPC would be significant. Right >now Apple has sold more PowerMacs than any other computer company >has sold of any other RISC chip. The highest volume chip, without >question, is the Intel series. After you have that covered, why >not go for the second highest volume chip? This is not a religious >question. It just makes sense. Do you have any evidence to back this up? Workstations are by definition low volume items - RISC sells in volume in embedded applications. As for a port, there has to be an economic justification for going with another architecture. So far the PowerPC hasnt lived up to its expectations for performance or system price, and there is no mass market 'standard' platform. Until the market shows some acceptance for CHRP compliant systems and larger vendors (ie Microsoft and Sun) start to see some return on investment NeXT should stay out of it and continue to improve what they have on the platforms they now support - better driver support and a real backup system would be a good start. >Now there are good reasons to wait before doing a PowerPC port, >mainly the question of an evolving standard for PowerPC-based >machines. However, thanks to the Mac the PowerPC will ship in >more machines than MIPS will (probably) ever show up in. > >As another example, Sun expects there to be three "winners" in >the chip wars. They pick those three to be Intel, PowerPC, and >SPARC. Those are the machines they will have Solaris for. The >reason they pick SPARC is pretty obvious, but certainly they >aren't porting to PowerPC due to some blind religous fervor. Marketing hype. Sun doesnt sell that many Solaris for Intel licenses, and few vendors selling software on SPARC supply executables which run on Intel. Again, given the volumes NeXT sells in, will there be enough demand to justify less support and advancement among the other four platforms they support now? >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA -Steve -- -------------------- When all you own is a hammer, every problem is a nail. Too many folks grew up with nothing more than a hammer named U**X...
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: That ole 'follow-focus' chestnut...... Date: 12 Jul 1995 05:05:23 GMT Organization: The University of Calgary Message-ID: <3tvl6j$53e@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: <DBCyI7.FG@asysa.demon.co.uk> In article <DBCyI7.FG@asysa.demon.co.uk> Mark Booth <markb@asysa.demon.co.uk> writes: > I dont want to start a 'NeXTstep is perfect' 'Is not' etc. flame war, > but I have been looking everywhere for the solution to this problem, > So in a nutshell, is there *ANY* way I can get follow-focus on my > machine? If there is not a program already out there, maybe someone .. Here is what I have. I can't stand follow-focus myself, so I have never tried it. I have *no* idea if it works, and messing with windowPackage.ps is playing with fire. And check out the date -- Sept. 1991. It would be a *very* bad idea to apply this patch blindly! Please do not ask me for help if you damage your system. ======== Path: fafnir!uunet!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!arizona!dkoski From: dkoski@cs.arizona.edu (David Koski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mouse pointer focus Message-ID: <1850@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> Date: 5 Sep 91 02:52:29 GMT References: <1843@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 54 In article <1843@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> dkoski@cs.arizona.edu (David Koski) writes: >I have patched the window server on the next to give me pointer focus >just like a sun. Is anyone out there interested in it? I don't think >I can post the windowserver code, but context diffs would probably be >OK (copyrights and all). > >If anyone is interested in this, I will post it. Well, a lot of people are interested. The windowserver code is in /usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps. Before doing any of this make sure you have a copy of this code. The fixes work for me, and I have tested them fairly well, but I cannot gaurantee anything. The code works by dummying up a left mouse down and a left mouse up in the title bar of the window that the cursor rests in. This way the application will use the correct window. The application is not activated, so it doesn't pop to the front (a good thing). The command keys will go to whatever application is the current one (ie the one that has the menu in the corner). If anyone has questions/comments/flames/improvements, send them to me at dkoski@cs.arizona.edu. Anyway, here is the context diff which does it. You can apply it using patch, or by hand, or whatever. *** windowPackage.ps Mon Sep 2 11:41:32 1991 --- windowPackage.ps.old Wed Aug 28 15:53:05 1991 *************** *** 1509,1525 **** activeApp 0 eq { /beep winexec }{ ! % activeApp true /postByContext winexec ! 0 currentmouse ! Above 0 findwindow 4 2 roll pop pop ! { dup dup dup currentwindowbounds exch pop add ! % win win win x y ! 1 3 1 roll 0 0 6 -1 roll 0 0 % win win 1 x y 0 0 win 0 0 ! 9 -1 roll currentowner % win 1 x y 0 0 win 0 0 context ! 9 copy /transmitEvent winexec ! 2 9 1 roll /transmitEvent winexec pop ! currentowner true /postByContext winexec ! }{ 10 {pop} repeat } ifelse } ifelse } ifelse } _NXDefProc --- 1505,1511 ---- activeApp 0 eq { /beep winexec }{ ! activeApp true /postByContext winexec } ifelse } ifelse } _NXDefProc ============ -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html" Check out the U. of Calgary resident Peregrine falcon: http://ksi.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/falcon
From: gregf@galileo.mel.dbce.csiro.au (Greg C. Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help: customized terminal prompt Date: 10 Jul 1995 02:17:52 GMT Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral + Process Engineering Message-ID: <3tq2kg$ld@news.dmpe.CSIRO.AU> I used to have the following prompt in my terminal: "localhost" ["/current/dir"]-"cmd No."> I've lost the .cshrc file that gave me this look. Could you please tell me how to set up my .cshrc file to get this prompt? Thanks for any help, Greg -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dr. Greg C. Foliente greg.foliente@dbce.csiro.au | | CSIRO Div of Building, Construction and Engrg Ph +613-9252-6200 | | PO Box 56, Highett, Victoria, Australia 3190 Fax +613-9252-6246 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cal machine here. Please guide my hand. I will appreciate your help, Greg -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dr. Greg C. Foliente greg.foliente@dbce.csiro.au | | CSIRO Div of Building, Construction and Engrg Ph +613-9252-6200 | | PO Box 56, Highett, Victoria, Australia 3190 Fax +613-9252-6246 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: buttonPresse Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP s/w for workflow and fingerprint capture/comparison Date: 11 Jul 1995 10:30:18 GMT Organization: PiX - Proxima information X-change Message-ID: <3ttjrq$pei@foxbat.pix.za> X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) I have clients who are interested in the following: 1) A NS workflow solution 2) Fingerprint capturing/comparison solution for voter registration. I have gone through the 3rd Party stuff on NeXTanswers and the 1995 CD-ROM but can't seem to find anything. Anybody can do ? or knows of possible contacts ? Any info would be appreciated and can be sent to my email or posted if it would be of general interest. Regards Danie Malan email: danie@core.org.za (NeXTMAIL, MIME welcome) CAIRO = NT + OPENSTEP !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <rfenney-120795012239@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <rfenney-080795214638@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Jul10.110736.55717@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:25:20 GMT In article <1995Jul10.110736.55717@cc.usu.edu>, mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) wrote: >> My stuff cut<<< > > > I think thats my perspective to and one of the main reasons I'm intrested > in powerpc over intel is that there processors are cheap compared with > intel. This does not make much of a difference in a single proccesor > system but in and smp system processor costs can become significant. > also the easiest's way's to upgrade a system outside of more memory is to > add a cpu. And Nextstep with iths windowing system would benifit > tremedously from a second cpu IMHO. I would like to see some of the > preformace figures for the dual powerpc that Next did build. I bet the GUI > flew. The way I look at it I'm in my system like 8 grand if I could double > have doubled the preformance for another thousand or less and had that > option it makes good sense to me. SMP also allows you to keep your machine > current with the addition of more cpu's. I read a sun estimate that > additional cpu's give about a 90% performace gain per cpu. Thus for > example if you have and SMP board running P90 you can buy a second P90 and > get more performance then buying the leading edge Intel cpu. And if you > can except up to four processors then you can actually surpass the > performance of all any of the current cpu inf fact should be able to beat > the P6 I would think plus the cost of the cpu's your using drops > dramarically over time as they are outmoded. In short with and quad smp > sytem you can keep your perfomance equvilent to any current single > proccesor system until they are about 1/4 the speed of the top single CPU > even in todays market this would keep you going for at least two years. > > But I really think the powerpc is the way to go the processors are faster > and cheaper than intel's. I also think the quality of the systems will be > substatially better, since Mac and IBM have high quality hardware IMHO and > will set the standard (there software is a different story). I don't think > a Packered Bell type outfit will last long in the powerpc market. > > > > Mike Mike, I agree withh you about the PowerPC. I would rather buy my staff SMP PowerPC systems rather than INTEL. I am waiting to see how the SOLARIS port to the power systems pans out. I am also waiting to see how OpenStep works on these systems. I just wish that NeXT wasn't zinging when I zap. It is getting alittle old! I staiil have hopes the NeXT will realize that the next big PUSH in computing will be VR, and semi-autimus systems and they NEEDs ALL of the CPU cycles they can get!!!! Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> <3turl5$l@ni1.ni.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:47:45 GMT In article <3turl5$l@ni1.ni.net>, root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > In comp.sys.next.misc article <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> you wrote: > > root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > [snip] > > > > > Exactly what is it that some people seem to see in the PowerPC? > > > Personally, I'm a fan of the MIPS processors and yet I don't > > > speak of them in religious terms. > > > > It's extremely obvious why the PowerPC would be significant. Right > > now Apple has sold more PowerMacs than any other computer company > > has sold of any other RISC chip. > > Yes, but even though Apple has sold a great many powerMacs (relatively > speaking), not many of these are in NeXT's target audience. > > >The highest volume chip, without > > question, is the Intel series. After you have that covered, why > > not go for the second highest volume chip? This is not a religious > > question. It just makes sense. > > > > Yes, when NeXT actually does have the Intel market covered (sound fixed, > more/better drivers and much deeper market penetration) and are profitable > then a PowerPC port will make sense. The ports to SUN and HP made sense > because they were paid for by the hardware vendors and they allow NeXT to > claim their software runs on a wide array of UNIX workstations which are a > mainstay of the MCCA market. > > > Now there are good reasons to wait before doing a PowerPC port, > > mainly the question of an evolving standard for PowerPC-based > > machines. > > I think the reasons not to are mainly financial as I doubt Apple/IBM will > pay for it. > > >However, thanks to the Mac the PowerPC will ship in > > more machines than MIPS will (probably) ever show up in. > > > Quite true, but the MIPS based machines are actually used by a segment of > the market that would love NeXT technology and be willing to pay top > dollar for it. Essentially, it would cement NeXT's crossplatform support > across almost the entire UNIX universe. Actually, The financial MCCA client that are NeXT's current target want the fastest systems for the cheepest price they can get. The would LOVE PowerPC OR ALPHA based systems! > > > As another example, Sun expects there to be three "winners" in > > the chip wars. They pick those three to be Intel, PowerPC, and > > SPARC. Those are the machines they will have Solaris for. The > > reason they pick SPARC is pretty obvious, but certainly they > > aren't porting to PowerPC due to some blind religous fervor. > > > > --- > > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > > This is very amusing on SUN's part. The majority of Mac users I have met > bought a Mac primarily because they think the OS is something special > (having never seen NeXTStep what do you expect). Since there is no > driving reason to buy a Mac for its hardware (more buck for less bang than > Intel, and of course fewer hardware options) I fail to see why one of > these typical users would want to buy Solaris and apps. > > Well lets say we agree that the PowerPC has a good chance of surviving as > the secondary chip. Further, lets say it manages to hold onto the 8-10% > percent market share held by both types of Macs. > I still fail to see any sound reasoning that should move NeXT to divert > precious resources from 90-92% of the PC market to support a chip that is > not used by their target audience. > > As for the potential of the PowerPC, I fail to understand why companies > such as Compaq, Packard Bell, Dell, Gateway, ...etc would want to buy a > critical piece of their technology from a significant competitor. > ALL of they venders (except possible Compaq) do not matter when your are talking MCCA. Financial instatutions want stable companies that can provide more than just a clone. They need a multi layer of products and services that can ONLY be provided by companies like SUN, DEC, IBM, HP, ATT, and MAYBE SGI. When you are talking about developing and fielding an application that includes links multiple data bases, autonumous systems (EDI link with information sources both internall and external to a organization) over a wide geographic region, clone providers are generally not considered. They systems take alot of talent and financial resources to develop, role-out, and maintane. Few organization are willing to risk working with any vender that can not provide the stabillity UNLESS there is SUCH an overwelming advantage that it outways the risk. PowerPC and ALPHA both provide these advantages. The PowerPC also provides the stabillity required IBM, MOTOROLA, APPLE, GROUP-BULL, CANNON, SUN all are backing the CPU. These companies WILL provide the marketting required to compete will INTEL. I know that in time, NeXT will provide OpenStep for NT and SOLARIS ( by SUN ?) which will hopefully run on the PowerPC systems, I would rather have the choise of an SMP version of NeXTSTEP, I know which I would pick for my company! > > -- > Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill > Agoura Hills, CA # one's fellow citizens, to betray > # friends, to be without faith, without > root@terra.crystalengine.com # mercy, without religion; by these means > (NeXTmail preferred) # one can aquire power but not glory. > (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli > #####################################################################
From: root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 12 Jul 1995 16:04:25 GMT Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <3u0rq9$q0s@ni1.ni.net> References: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> In article <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) writes: > > root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: [snip] > Actually, The financial MCCA client that are NeXT's current > target want the fastest systems for the cheepest price they > can get. The would LOVE PowerPC OR ALPHA based systems! > Well then why would they want a PowerPC based Mac? If the PowerPC is so cheap then why is it that Apple continues to charge higher prices for its Mac's than you would pay for a comparable Intel system? According to an article I read in Dow Jones yesterday a survey of IT people in the financial sector placed HP as the most highly regarded vendor followed by SGI. Their was no mention of the PowerPC. DEC's Alpha is only cost effective if you are considering workstation grade solutions, but then I would go with HP or SGI. [snip] >> Well lets say we agree that the PowerPC has a good chance of surviving as >> the secondary chip. Further, lets say it manages to hold onto the >>8-10% >> percent market share held by both types of Macs. >> I still fail to see any sound reasoning that should move NeXT to divert >> precious resources from 90-92% of the PC market to support a chip that >>is >> not used by their target audience. >> >> As for the potential of the PowerPC, I fail to understand why companies >> such as Compaq, Packard Bell, Dell, Gateway, ...etc would want to buy a >> critical piece of their technology from a significant competitor. > > ALL of they venders (except possible Compaq) do not matter > when your are talking MCCA. Financial instatutions want > stable companies that can provide more than just a clone. > Can you substantiate this? Large corporate and government users make up a substantial portion of sales for major clone manufacturers such as Dell and Gateway. Such customers are definitely NeXT's target clientele. > They need a multi layer of products and services that can > ONLY be provided by companies like SUN, DEC, IBM, HP, ATT, and > MAYBE SGI. When you are talking about developing and > fielding an application that includes links multiple data > bases, autonumous systems (EDI link with information sources > both internall and external to a organization) over a wide > geographic region, clone providers are generally not > considered. They systems take alot of talent and financial > resources to develop, role-out, and maintane. Few > organization are willing to risk working with any vender that > can not provide the stabillity UNLESS there is SUCH an > overwelming advantage that it outways the risk. > Well if a major account wants a complete solution from the likes of IBM because of the risks posed by third party hardware what are the chances they will divert from what IBM consulting recommends and go with a third party software solution such as NeXT? >PowerPC and ALPHA both provide these advantages. Yah right. It would be helpful if you could spell out the price/performance gain. Right now the price/performance lead is in Intel based systems (you can check the figures that have been posted Intel vs Workstation) the only reason to go with HP, SUN, SGI IMHO is for the product integration/support and possibly third party software, and of course you will probably pay about twice as much for your choice. > The PowerPC also provides the stabillity required IBM, > MOTOROLA, APPLE, GROUP-BULL, CANNON, SUN all are backing the > CPU. These companies WILL provide the marketting required to > compete will INTEL. > :-) :-) :-) Well lets see. IBM and Apple who once dominated the PC business now play second banana to the likes of Packard Bell. Groupe BULL is anything but stable with all of their losses. These companies may provide the marketing to compete with Intel, but I don't think Andy Grove loses sleep over the competition they have provided. > I know that in time, NeXT will provide OpenStep for NT and > SOLARIS ( by SUN ?) which will hopefully run on the PowerPC > systems, I would rather have the choise of an SMP version of > NeXTSTEP, I know which I would pick for my company! > Hmmm, Solaris on the PowerPC with OpenStep on top of that. Any particular reason you want to waste your time (waiting for it) and money (you are going to spend quite a bit on the sofware alone) on such a beast? The PowerPC; maybe someday, but not today! -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill Agoura Hills, CA # one's fellow citizens, to betray # friends, to be without faith, without root@terra.crystalengine.com # mercy, without religion; by these means (NeXTmail preferred) # one can aquire power but not glory. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: help: customized terminal prompt Date: 12 Jul 1995 16:08:12 GMT Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <3u0s1c$q2k@ni1.ni.net> References: <3tq2kg$ld@news.dmpe.CSIRO.AU> In article <3tq2kg$ld@news.dmpe.CSIRO.AU> gregf@galileo.mel.dbce.csiro.au (Greg C. Foliente) writes: >I used to have the following prompt in my terminal: >"localhost" ["/current/dir"]-"cmd No."> > >I've lost the .cshrc file that gave me this look. Could you please tell me >how to set up my .cshrc file to get this prompt? > >Thanks for any help, >Greg >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >| Dr. Greg C. Foliente greg.foliente@dbce.csiro.au | >| CSIRO Div of Building, Construction and Engrg Ph +613-9252-6200 | >| PO Box 56, Highett, Victoria, Australia 3190 Fax +613-9252-6246 | >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I use a similar prompt. Here is my .cshrc script: # # Default .cshrc file for root. # # Modified to show current directory # set up the path set path=(/etc /usr/etc /usr/ucb /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/sybase/bin /LocalApps /NextApps /NextAdmin /NextDeveloper/Demos) # umask will disable write privileges for group and other users umask 022 # if ( ${?prompt} ) then set host=`hostname` set prompt="${host}:\!# " # number of commands to remember set history=100 # some default aliases alias ls ls -F alias mail /usr/ucb/Mail # current directory prompt alias cd 'cd \!*; set prompt="${host}#${cwd}: "' endif setenv PGPPATH ~/.pgp -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill Agoura Hills, CA # one's fellow citizens, to betray # friends, to be without faith, without root@terra.crystalengine.com # mercy, without religion; by these means (NeXTmail preferred) # one can aquire power but not glory. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Message-ID: <1995Jul12.101649.55933@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) Date: 12 Jul 95 10:16:48 MDT References: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Distribution: world I think one of the big questions is does next have the resources to devote to the PowerPC platform. Two I suspect sales on the Power PC platform will be at least equal if not better than the HP platform and probably closer to SUN sales. I suspect the HP is just a small percentage of over all sales but Next did the port anyway. Another way to look at it is if IBM is stays compatible with the spec on there workstation products then there may be a significant number of people choosing Nextstep over AIX. This is the same market targeted by the HP port people who wanted fast hardware but did not like the vendors Unix or knew about Nextstep. If Next does not have the people to do the port fine end of discussion. But if they do they will make money off the Power PC IMHO. The SMP issue is slightly different but Next needs to support multi processor servers esp. Sun's to give and integrated corporate wide solutions. One of the reasons for the popularity of suns in the first place. Yes you can use two different Unice's on your platforms but why? With DO the next logical step to me is to support servers and this means smp for SUN,HP and the PowerPC platforms. As far as intel goes why buy dual intel systems? When you get better performace from the power PC line and there smp systems seem to be cheaper. And intel still does not have a good smp system on the market IMHO. If Next can do it there is a golden opportunity in the PowerPC port there seems to be a lot of intrest in Unix on the Power PC. Smp seems to be logical. The mach kernal supports it the OS seems to be highly threaded and I think Next has the resources to do PowerPC and smp. For more speculation it seems to me most graphics labs work on a mix of Macintoshes and SGI's if Next whants to make any inroad into the Graphics market it needs a powerpc port once thats done and if a significant number of shops convert to Next/SGI I bet SGI will cave in and support and openstep port or more likley given the state of there OS a licence to sell Nextstep with and extensive graphics package. The power mac users, I mean power users on the mac : ) make a very logical and probably willing Next market. I guess and annoucment at Object World that gives Next's position on (if when and how) smp, PowerPC, and support of Next computers would be nice. Currently Next supports Intel,HP, and Sparc. If Dec ever gets Openstep out the door theres the Alpha support. In the case of the Alpha I'd let Dec decide wether a full Nextstep port or Openstep port is important to them. There a strange company with the internal battles between VMS and Unix its not worth Next making a gamble. And the arguments about not supporting the port for resource reasons is bull. If you want to use that arguments they should have stopped at intel. Next in my opinion want's to ship on all platforms sooner or later. That leaves the power pc and SGI and smp support. Then your done ; ) Speaking of done I'm gone on vaction for a month I'll rant and rave some more when I get back : ) Mike SMP PowerPC SMP PowerPC SMP PowerPC SMP PowerPC SMP PowerPC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP s/w for workflow and fingerprint capture/comparison Message-ID: <1995Jul12.102137.55934@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) Date: 12 Jul 95 10:21:36 MDT References: <3ttjrq$pei@foxbat.pix.za> Distribution: world There is some software that does a lot of what you want it was made for use by Police Stations I don't know who did it or were to get it just know I read about it. Seems like it was able to match fingerprints and then pull up crimminal records but I can't remember. Maybe this will jog somebodys memory ?? In article <3ttjrq$pei@foxbat.pix.za> writes: > X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) > > I have clients who are interested in the following: > > 1) A NS workflow solution > > 2) Fingerprint capturing/comparison solution for voter registration. > > I have gone through the 3rd Party stuff on NeXTanswers and the 1995 CD-ROM > but can't seem to find anything. > > Anybody can do ? or knows of possible contacts ? > > Any info would be appreciated and can be sent to my email or posted > if it would be of general interest. > > > Regards > > Danie Malan email: danie@core.org.za (NeXTMAIL, MIME welcome) > > CAIRO = NT + OPENSTEP !
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: MBONE on the NeXT? Date: 12 Jul 1995 20:12:40 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <3u1abo$8q7@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: MBONE, multicast Is multicast (MBONE) software available for the NeXT? Please e-mail me any replies as well as posting them. Thanks! -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: CDROM filesystem software Message-ID: <DBLvo7.HF1@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:48:06 GMT Greetings: I'd like to get a CDROM writer going on my NSFIP (3.2) and I'm told I need some software called mkisofs. Would someone who has experience writing out CD's comment here please? What do I need? -- Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome. School of Optometry | University of Waterloo | "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Waterloo, Ontario | -- Bill Gates '81 Canada, N2L 3G1 |
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PINNACLE SEQUENCE? PRESTO? Where are the maintainers? Date: 12 Jul 1995 20:44:11 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <3u1c71$2nk@irc.ucsd.edu> Hello! I purchased a Presto software license before Presto became Pinnacle Sequence. I have a license that works with my computer at home. I would like to use this software on a computer elsewhere. I am willing to pay for this if necessary, but I don't even know who to talk to. If anyone has any information regarding the status of this software, who "owns" it or maintains its licensing, please contact me. Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
From: arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson) (Arne Elofsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Should I buy NEXT-step ? Date: 12 Jul 1995 16:03:59 -0700 Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <6gzqij4mqo.fsf@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu> Hi. Sorry for asking stupid questions, but I'd really like some feedback. I'm starting a new lab (one person at the moment) and one computational alternative I have is to bye PC:s and run some UNIX on them (Solaris, Linus, NetBSd, SCO or NEXT). And I have heard so many good things about NEXT I thought I ask you about it. (My other alternatives are normal unix workstations ibm or dec I'd guess) Q1: As a lot of my programs are in fortran do I have any use of NEXT ? Are there any compilers (other than g77) Q2: What is the advantege over NEXT compared to Linus ? Q3: What should I think about when I bye hardware for NEXT. Q4: Are NEXT-step pc's a serious alternative compared to a real workstation. (I do mainly floating point intensive work). I also assume that I configure the PC's with descent cache (1mb) and memory (64mb) and SCSI disks. Please respond to me by email arne -------------------------------------------------------- From: Arne Elofsson Email: arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu WWW: http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/arne/main.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP s/w for workflow and fingerprint capture/comparison Message-ID: <DBMM76.7Kn@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 References: <1995Jul12.102137.55934@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 23:21:05 GMT Danie Malan email: danie@core.org.za asked about fingerprint comparison database... mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) writes: > There is some software that does a lot of what you want it was made for > use by Police Stations ... pull up crimminal records.... > MUG SHOTS and MAPPING was under development by Comnetix Computer Systems, Inc. in Canada. Their number was: 416-274-4060 and sales@conmetix.com This information is on pages 22-23 of the Spring 1993 Third-Party Products catalog from NeXT.
From: rad@intele.net (Jeff Jolly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP with FAX/modem Date: 13 Jul 1995 05:43:23 GMT Organization: inteleNET Internet Services Message-ID: <3u2bps$qb8@vodka.intele.net> Has anybody ever been able to get the FAX part of a fax/modem to work in NS 3.0? I know, I know, it's my own fault for being in the stone age, but that's what I have. My problem is that I can't get FaxDaemon to work. I have NXFax, several Fax drivers, and an AT&T DataPort 14.4 modem (which is supposed to be compatible w/ NXFax). From all I can tell: FaxDaemon must be running; and FaxDaemon is run by "exec_faxes". This is what I know. At any given time I have Faxxess <fax_name> and TrimProgram <fax_name> running. I execute exec_faxes and cannot get FaxDaemon to even think about running. I have a NextStation running alone now, with nothing too special added. "exec_faxes" is called in /etc/rc. I can't find out anything that will help me understand exec_faxes or FaxDaemon in any documentation. Oh...the modem clearly works fine...I'm using it right now. I called NextStep and they said that they don't support NS 3.0 and that it is "clearly a NXFax software problem." (I think that's a crock of sh**.) I call NXFax, but can't get anyone on the phone there. The did send me a disk "NXFax Addendum" whick gave me further information that shows it's a NS problem, but I don't know what to do. I greatly appreciate the time you have taken to read this note..... Now, has anyone anywhere EVER been able to get a FAX to work using NS 3.0 and ANY software at all? Is it a possibility? If NXFax doesn't work back at NS 3.0, how come I can't even get anything to work with PrintManager stuff? If anyone has done it in NS 3.0 (fax, that is) will you reply to me? Thank you VERY VERY much for any assistance. Jeff Jolley
From: ix@ix.netcom.com (snow_crash (NeXT Mach) ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Jazz driver for NS3.2? <please?> Date: 13 Jul 1995 06:26:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <3u2eb4$s7f@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <3u2bps$qb8@vodka.intele.net> I had a PAS16 in my box, it sucked, but it did system sounds ok. Then it died. And I couldn't find replacements, Media Vision had discontinued it. A friend who reps a Jazz chipset-based sound card gave me one (to test :), but it didn't work in NS. I pulled jaz16.compressed from the NeXT web, and it says I must have NS3.3... :( I just cannot afford (at this time) to do a full developer upgrade to NS 3.3. Is there ANY way I could (ahem...) modify the 3.3 version to work with my 3.2 NS? Cheers! chris
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 12 Jul 1995 19:59:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3u19jb$hg0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1995Jul4.105822.55335@cc.usu.edu> <3tmvci$hmi@ni1.ni.net> <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> <3tus5e$2a7@regina.seh.codem.com> seh@seh.codem.com (Stephen E. Halpin) wrote: > Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > > It's extremely obvious why the PowerPC would be significant. > > Right now Apple has sold more PowerMacs than any other computer > > company has sold of any other RISC chip. The highest volume > > chip, without question, is the Intel series. After you have > > that covered, why not go for the second highest volume chip? > > This is not a religious question. It just makes sense. > Do you have any evidence to back this up? Workstations are by > definition low volume items - RISC sells in volume in embedded > applications. Um, you're right of course, so let me think of an alternate way to say what I wanted to say. NeXTSTEP is for workstations & personal computers. It's not likely to ever sell in the embedded processor market. Of the entire market that NeXTSTEP is relevent to, the PowerPC chip is already the highest volume RISC chip. If NeXTSTEP is appropriate for HP's PA-RISC (and I think it is) and Sun's SPARC (and I think it is), then it is quite logical that it the PowerPC chip would also be a logical platform for NeXTSTEP. This is not some fanatic religious lunatic-fringe idea. (this as opposed to support for the MIPS chip, which was suggested in the article I was responding to) > > As another example, Sun expects there to be three "winners" in > > the chip wars. They pick those three to be Intel, PowerPC, > > and SPARC. Those are the machines they will have Solaris for. > > The reason they pick SPARC is pretty obvious, but certainly > > they aren't porting to PowerPC due to some blind religous > > fervor. > Marketing hype. Sun doesnt sell that many Solaris for Intel > licenses, and few vendors selling software on SPARC supply > executables which run on Intel. Again, given the volumes NeXT > sells in, will there be enough demand to justify less support > and advancement among the other four platforms they support now? Well, the desirability of Solaris is an interesting question all by itself. I'm certainly aware that Solaris for Intel is not selling like hotcakes. Solaris for SPARC isn't as hot a seller as it was originally claimed to be either, for what that's worth, and Sun has a relatively captive audience there. My point was not that Solaris was raking in millions from their PowerPC plans. My point was that Sun seems to believe that the PowerPC chip is a significant platform -- even though the PowerPC is in direct competition with their own RISC chip. If NeXTSTEP were available for the PowerPC chip, NeXT would not have been the first vendor to make such a "religious" decision. The PowerPC may not have completely lived up to the original claims for it yet, but it's still a chip that is showing up on a lot of workstations and personal computers. I agree that there are other projects that NeXT needs to concentrate on for now, and that any PowerPC version could wait until PowerPC hardware becomes a bit more standardized (and wait until the volume shipments are more PCI-based and not Nubus-based). So, there's no reason to have a NS/PowerPC this year, but it's not a silly thing for people to push for. This is particularly true given that NeXT has already *done* a good part of the work for supporting the PowerPC, thanks to the work done for the NRW. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 12 Jul 1995 19:59:49 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3u19jl$hg0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <rfenney-080795214638@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Jul10.110736.55717@cc.usu.edu> <rfenney-120795012239@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) wrote: > mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel) wrote: > > I think thats my perspective to and one of the main reasons > > I'm intrested in powerpc over intel is that there processors > > are cheap compared with intel. This does not make much of a > > difference in a single proccesor system but in and smp system > > processor costs can become significant. First off, it's not necessarily clear how multi-processing systems will be priced once the P6 comes out. I believe the P6 has some more design effort on supporting multi-processing. Intel will probably be reasonably competive price-wise by the time multi-processing really gets to be important. For all the hub-bub right now, it's not really all that important yet. (I do agree it will be important, and probably pretty soon). > I agree with you about the PowerPC. I would rather buy my > staff SMP PowerPC systems rather than INTEL. I am waiting to see > how the SOLARIS port to the power systems pans out. I am also > waiting to see how OpenStep works on these systems. I just wish > that NeXT wasn't zinging when I zap. It is getting alittle old! I do think it'll be interesting to see how the combination of Solaris 2.5 (which is significantly better than 2.4 from what I hear) and OpenStep will be. This may be good enough for covering the PowerPC platform with NeXTSTEP-ish ideas. If this is good enough, then it might be that a NeXTSTEP for PowerPC won't be important to work on. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 12 Jul 1995 19:59:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <3u19jq$hg0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3tsmlf$grc@usenet.rpi.edu> <3turl5$l@ni1.ni.net> <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) wrote: > root@terra.crystalengine.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > > Quite true, but the MIPS based machines are actually used by > > a segment of the market that would love NeXT technology and be > > willing to pay top dollar for it. Essentially, it would cement > > NeXT's crossplatform support across almost the entire UNIX > > universe. > Actually, The financial MCCA client that are NeXT's current target > want the fastest systems for the cheepest price they can get. > The would LOVE PowerPC OR ALPHA based systems! Heh. Actually I'd like to have NeXTSTEP on Alpha too, but that's just because of the hardware I already have. The PowerPC port would make more sense due to it's volume of sales, though it'd be fun to get an Alpha upgrade to my DECpc too. I wish DEC would come out with a multi-architecture machine, with an Alpha and an Intel chip (the way Apple has their Mac's which also have the DOS compatibility card). I think that would open some interesting possibilities... (not sure it'd be a big-selling machine, but hey, I'm just talking about having some fun hardware here) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Soeren Appenzeller <sappenz> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anybody tried a Quantum Capella SCSI with NeXT ??? Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:26:06 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Mannheim Message-ID: <3u2ore$lh5@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hy there, has anybody tried to connect a 2.0GB HDD Quantum Capella SCSI-II hard-disk to a black-hardware NeXT ? I read the pheriphals-FAQ but there wasn't any warning about this had-disk... I want to buy this hard-disk for a NeXT, so if you know something about it, mail me. Thanks, Soeren Appenzeller. -------------------- sappenz@pinfo100.informatik.uni-mannheim.de
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MBONE on the NeXT? Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:17:32 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3u36dc$r1a@panix.com> References: <3u1abo$8q7@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: MBONE, multicast In <3u1abo$8q7@news.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) writes: >Is multicast (MBONE) software available for the NeXT? Please e-mail me any >replies as well as posting them. Well, IP multicast is supported in v3.3, and the early version of mrouted (whose release number I don't have handy) seems to compile okay (but I haven't tried using it yet). I will be posting a small multicast client and server either today or tomorrow, and these will probably help you do whichever tweeks are necessary to use either version of mrouted. Unfortunately, ifconfig and netstat do not (visibly) support the multicasting options (in NS v3.3). I am working on getting the multicast-aware version of netstat working. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: boards@nosc.mil (Stephen Board) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1524 Message-ID: <boards.806072350@nise-ch> Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <DBv8Iw.xE@zcias2.ziff.com> <DBwGG0.Dy@localhost.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:59:10 GMT vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) writes: >In article <DBv8Iw.xE@zcias2.ziff.com> shacker@birdhouse.org (Scot Hacker) >writes: >> I'm considering installing NextStep on an Intel PC and I was just >> browsing through NeXT's web pages to see if all of my current hardware >> is supported. Under Adaptec, I see that they support the 154x line, >> but I didn't see any mention of the 152x line. (I have an Adaptec 1524 >> SCSI Direction. Do they really not support my card? If not, will I >> simply not be able to use my SCSI card, or is it basically the same >> card (using the same drivers)? >It simply won't work. The 152x is vastly different internally from the 154x. >(I know, I've tried to adapt the 154x driver source and failed, though I don't >remember much detail. I think the 154x has a mailbox I/O model and the 152x >has a single buffer) > Volker Actually the 3.3 CD-ROM has the driver. It is listed as the Adaptec 6X60 chipset family. I have not actually used this card so performance is unknown. I obtained this info from the latest 3.3 Intel Compatibility Guide available from NeXTanswers on http://www.next.com HTH Stephen boards@nosc.mil
From: jbevan@actual.com (James Bevan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Panic during shutdown Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:37:07 GMT Organization: Secureactual Limited Sender: news@calculus.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <DBx1xw.9t@calculus.demon.co.uk> References: <3u9ht7$gq0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <3u9ht7$gq0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: : > : > This is not the case on the three Intel Boxes I administer at : > university, not : > true for my home Intel box and also not true for the HP 712/80 I : > installed : > recently. : > : > I think there's something screwed up in your setup. Give more info on : > hardware/ : > software if you want this problem solved :-) : : Well... this problem only started happening recently after I upgraded to : 3.3. 3.3. has never been stable for me. I get random panics every day, : sometimes when not even touching the machine. For awhile my machine would : shutdown under 3.3. However, I'm thinking a panic has corrupted something : bad. I don't want to do a total reinstall and I cant use diff on the : executables (since the installer strips them on installation). : : Here are the specs for my machine: : : ECLIPSE 850e : : Intel Pentium 90MHz CPU (updated to correct FP bug) : : There is some confusion (on my part here). I was told I would be shipped : an Intel Plato Motherboard. The manual I received says its a Plate : P54C/PCI Baby-AT Motherboard. However, the serial number on the invoice : says its an Intel Neptune motherboard. My guess (which may be way off : base since I don't know what Plato is) is that it is a Plato motherboard : with the Neptune chipset. Either way, the latest PCI-SCSI bridge (from : NeXTAnswers) says I have A-1 stepping. : : Intel Plato Pentium 90MHz motherboard : -or- : Intel Neptune PCI Pentium Board : : NCR 825 PCI SCSI Controller : IBM 0662 1.0 GB Fast SCSI-2 (8.6ms) : : Mini tower case w/250 watt power supply : : 32MB RAM for Pentium mbd (2 4MB x 36) : : 1.44MB floppy drive : Diamond Stealth64 PCI 4MB : IDEK 8617 17" SVGA monitor .26 dp : : Maxiswitch 101 keyboard : Logitech bus mouse : Microsoft Windows Sound System : Twin Sound internal stereo speakers : : TEAC CD-50 CD-ROM : : Intel EtherExpress 16C Combo Ethernet card : : : I'm running NCR SCSI BIOS 3.04 and AMI BIOS 1.00.12.AX1. : : Hope this helps... : : - Steve : : -- : ============================================================== : Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu : Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP : Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2 For what it's worth, I had a similar problem with my NS/I 3.3, until I changed my soundcard's DMA from 1 to 3. Further on down the line I also had to boot out some SIMMS which turned out to be duds. Hope this helps -- James Bevan Secureactual Limited
From: bambi@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Stefan K. Bamberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q] Mach64: which resolution won't crash the system? Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:47:55 +0200 Organization: University of Wuerzburg Message-ID: <bambi-1807951747550001@wi6a66.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> HI, I just downloaded the Mach64 driver from ftp.next.com out of the ../drivers/released folder and tried to access the power of my Mach64 Win Turbo 4MB card. 800x600 with 256 colors was possible 1024x786 with 256 colors was posssible 1280x1024 with 256 colors and 70Hz refresh was chooseable but with the effect that my monitor went black and in stand by mode. According to my ATI manual, this resolution needs 74kHz horiz. Freq. My monitor (SONY 20se-v) allows up to 80kHz with this resolution, so I think it must work! If the driver is the problem ---> don't use this resolution!!!! Two questions: Does anybody know of 'dangerous' resolutions with this driver and which resolutions are possible? How can I manage to change to a good resolution now?????? When I boot NeXTStep, it'll use the bad resolution and give me no chance to change it (the monitor is black!) Is there a possibility to tell it to use standard VGA when the boot prompt comes up? TIA, - stefan _____________________________________________________________________ *** Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! **** _____________________________________________________________________ Stefan K. Bamberger email: bambi@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de Lehrstuhl f"ur Informatik VI voice : ++49 931 7056114 Universit"at W"urzburg / Germany Fax : ++49 931 7056120 _____________________________________________________________________
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep literature Date: 18 Jul 1995 18:31:21 GMT Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ugulp$14j@emerald.oz.net> We have potential customers who'd like to ignore us because we offer a NEXTSTEP solution, but because it's so much better than the Windows competition, they can't ignore us :-) But they can and do stall making a purchase decision in hopes that a Windows solution will emerge. We'd like to provide a path to their Windows promised land by licensing our NS solution to them NOW with the promise (well, as much as anything's a promise in this business :-) that it will run under Windows/OpenStep in the murky future. They kinda like this scenario, but they want more info about Windows/OpenStep. We would, too, but NeXT apparently cannot provide it! I've contacted NeXT's product information line asking for OpenStep info and was sent a nice packet ... about PDO, not OpenStep :-( I called back again trying to clarify my needs and was finally told that no OpenStep-specific info is available from NeXT! Come on, NeXT, how do you expect to sell if you can't provide a high-level, written description of OpenStep and how it will operate under other OS's like Windows? We have 2 big deals that are about to fall through because we cannot back up our claims of an OpenStep route to Windows bliss for our NS app. Can anyone point me to a high-level description of OpenStep? --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154 Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: gwu@lainet.com (George Y. Wu) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Routing between TCP/IP LAN and PPP link Date: 18 Jul 1995 19:57:33 GMT Organization: LA Internet (310)442-4670 Message-ID: <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 I have a NeXTStation (ppphost) running NS3.2 and NeXT-PPP-2.2b02 that I use to dial into a dial-up PPP account to connect to the Internet. I have used the 'defaultroute' option to PPP so that by default external network traffic goes to remote PPP server. Everythings works fine (e.g. ftp, telnet, WWW etc.) on ppphost but other machines on the LAN can not access the Internet through the PPP link. Can someone tell me how to set up the LAN the all machines on the LAN can access the Internet through the PPP link ? I tried using the 'proxyarp' option to PPP but it complained that it can not determine the Ethernet address even though the address is in the NetInfo database. I tried adding a default route on the other machines to ppphost but it did not make any difference. I used traceroute on one of the LAN machines it showed that traffic gets to ppphost but it stops there with timeout errors. So, the specific question is that on ppphost, how do I forward traffic from other LAN machines to the PPP link ? I thought the 'defaultroute' PPP option on ppphost would have taken care of this ? Any help is greatly appreciated. George
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 18 Jul 1995 20:12:39 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <3uh4jn$35m@news.xmission.com> References: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Jul12.101649.55933@cc.usu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716224018.25929C-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> Someone@Somewhere (eaeu899@rigel.oac.uci.edu) wrote: : Who will be NeXT's hardware partner for the PowerPC? Perhaps FirePower or CCSI? It looks like PowerPCs are starting to take off.... -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: launching NS apps remotely- how? Date: 18 Jul 1995 20:59:41 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <3uh7bt$1fb@news.next.com> References: <3u8cop$80j@ratatosk.uninett.no> In article <3u8cop$80j@ratatosk.uninett.no> borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) writes: > To launch an application on another NeXT to display on your NeXT - in > a remote shell on the other NeXT, type: > > application -NXHost yourhost > > (public windowserver must be on and > "yourhost" is NOT IP number) > Almost. You need to type: /SomePath/Application.app/Application -NXHost yourhost That is, you need to reference the binary in the app wrapper directly. - Mark -- Mark Dadgar | "If English was good enough for Jesus Network/Systems Admin. | Christ, then it's good enough for me." NeXT Computer, Inc. | - Arkansas congressman to Joint Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM | National Committee on Language Here I am, NOT speaking for NeXT.
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP DAT Drive Message-ID: <199506271720.AA047103608@relay1.geis.com> Date: 14 Jul 95 10:41:07 GMT Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com >My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A). >The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it. >The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386. >Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)? You need to install the NEXTSTEP Tape device driver. It should already be in your system, just install it. Look at NEXTANSWERS to download the device driver if you don't have it. Eric "E.T." Walnut Creek CDROM
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What time is it? Date: 18 Jul 1995 23:50:20 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <3uhhbs$bf1@mailer.york.ac.uk> References: <3uac86$2p7@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > If it is 2PM EST then what time is it on a NeXT? Should it be 2PM with the > highlight on GMT or GMT-5? I'm losing track of time here... I'm assuming that EST is eastern time in the americas without any daylight adjustment 2pm EST = 5pm GMT = 6pm BST. I added the last because if you just stick the NeXT over the greenwich meridian then it defaults to the UK/Ireland timezone which is currently GMT+1 best way to set UNIX clocks is to set them in GMT and then set the timezone. Saves all this faffing around with other zones. It's bad enough trying to get the damn things to do BST correctly... I'd hate to live anywhere that was off from GMT all year round. It would make setting the clocks even more stressful than it is currently. -bat.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What time is it? Erratum Date: 18 Jul 1995 23:52:48 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <3uhhgg$bfi@mailer.york.ac.uk> References: <3uac86$2p7@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Scrub the last answer - too late in the morning BST or evening GMT :-) 2pm EST = 7pm GMT = 8pm BST is correct. -bat.
From: aldavis@earth.execpc.com (Alfred Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Zmodem and Next. Date: 19 Jul 1995 03:00:31 GMT Organization: Exec-PC Message-ID: <3uhsgf$naa@homer.alpha.net> Where can I get a copy of Zmodem for a Next box? Please email me the answer to ever@fairfield.com. Thanks Al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mcbinc@world.std.com (Monty C Brandenberg) Subject: Re: Color-Codes for NeXT hardware? Message-ID: <DBy2Fz.5GF@world.std.com> Organization: MCB, Incorporated. Cambridge, MA References: <m0sWfCU-000btOC@a-gain> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 03:45:35 GMT Stefan Huelf (stefan@a-gain.hanse.de) wrote: : Does anybody happen to know the correct color codes for black hardware? : Somebody told me that its somewhat dark-blue??? : Backgrounder: I have to fix up an messed - up (Sigh) cube case : (I did not do it, though ;-) From an article by Simson Garfinkel in the June/July 1993 issue of NeXTWORLD (sigh...) on the radical oxidation of two cubes: Sprayon Paint, Omni-Packblend, 4Next-Black, LAV-16, 25216 (water based) Simson's probably still around (btw, is that your Jeep with the 'Simson' license plate?) and if I recall correctly, it's actually a very dark red. m -- Monty Brandenberg Software Consultant MCB, Inc. mcbinc@world.std.com 617.864.6907
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: English lady saying you've got mail Date: 19 Jul 1995 06:07:21 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <3ui7ep$sit@news4.digex.net> Hi, I'm looking for the sound file saying you have mail, as spoken by the same english lady that did the sounds for the NeXT printer. I checked the common sites, but didn't find it. If anyone is willing to NeXTmail it to me, would you mail me letting me know you have it? Cheerio :) -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1524 Message-ID: <DBy7wB.AIG@localhost.com> Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 05:43:22 GMT Sorry, I seem to have mixed up the 152x and 151x in a previous post. I guess ship hattens ;-) Volker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:54:31 -0400 From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU> Message-ID: <199507180254.WAA03499@capitalist.princeton.edu> Subject: My printer is gone Oops Ok, somehow I have managed to make my NeXT think there is no printer, when in fact there is a very nice NeXTPrinter attached to it. system 3.2 m68k with regular ol' NeXTPrinter called "Local_Printer" some more interesting facts: I can (seemingly) print by 'lpr' and 'lpr -m' sends me email saying that my document printed successfully (but nothing happened). any idea how I might have done this? The only thing I could think of was that I added "nppower off" to my /etc/rc.local, but I can't think of why that would be it. I've done some other minor things, but nothing really noteworthy (I don't think, at least). I assume someone out there must have had this same experience at some point (hopefully) any advice appreciated simple advice greatly appreciated thanks TjL luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Mach64: which resolution won't crash the system? Date: 19 Jul 1995 07:26:26 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <3uic32$kpn@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <bambi-1807951747550001@wi6a66.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> > Does anybody know of 'dangerous' resolutions with this driver > and which resolutions are possible? Normally, all resolutions work just fine. > How can I manage to change to a good resolution now?????? > When I boot NeXTStep, it'll use the bad resolution and give > me no chance to change it (the monitor is black!) Is there a > possibility to tell it to use standard VGA when the boot > prompt comes up? Enter "config=Default" (without quotation marks of course) at the boot prompt. NEXTSTEP will then boot with the same configuration that was used during the first phase of the first system installation. This should temporarily change your screen driver to standard VGA. Marcel Bresink --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Tel.: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: +49-261-9119-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (NeXT/MIME accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Need video driver for STB 5430 Message-ID: <DBw102.Gzu@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 01:19:14 GMT I've got an STB 5430 PCI card (appears to be a Cirrus Logic GD5430) installed in my Gateway P5/75, and I need a video driver for it. I tried the GD5434 driver, but it doesn't recognize it. I also tried the GD542x driver, and it seems to see it, but once it activates, it turns off the video, and the monitor goes into power saving mode. Where can I get driver for this card? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (JoNaThan DoRoIn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Animo finds a new home on SGI and DreamWorks SKG Date: 19 Jul 1995 01:29:25 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Message-ID: <3ui8o5$mlm@cobber.cord.edu> Looks like another great technology developed under NEXTSTEP is finding new life on a different platform. Cambridge Animation Systems is porting Animo to the SGI platform and will be integrated into the Digital Animation Dreammachine production system for the DreamWorks Digital Studio. Is this becoming the trend? Design/prototype on NEXTSTEP then deploy on a different platform? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jon Doroin | I've taken the NeXTSTEP doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Powering off without a mouse on a NSFIP system? Date: 19 Jul 1995 07:34:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <3uicil$kpn@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <3u9nc1$2c5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1995Jul16.224919.1079@xenicos.fdn.fr> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716230209.25929D-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> <3uegt3$4j0@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> > Now if one could associate these with the "End" key on a PC > keyboard then it would great... Ehm, what keyboard mapping is set on your computer? (You have to check the preferences of local user "root" to find out.) My PC shuts down correctly, when I press the "Home" key. Just where it should be... Marcel Bresink --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Tel.: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: +49-261-9119-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (NeXT/MIME accepted)
From: ROB FLETCHER <robert_fletcher@bathcc.gov.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Seeking Partners Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:42:06 GMT Message-ID: <806150526.5833@bathcc.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you are interested please email Lou_Sibley@bathcc.gov.uk or myself. Thanks, Rob. Bath City Council Guildhall High St Bath Avon BA1 5AW United Kingdom. Tel (01225) 477000 Fax (01225) 477267 ======================================================================= Thanks for the info you accessed from the Net/Web. What I want is to find at least 2 European partners for my Fotec project a brief outline below (because I dont know how to attach a document through the Mac!) Draft Objectives for LEONARDO funding To enable people in economically disadvantaged areas to have access to vocational training through community based learning in an urban telecottaging environment. To develop and establish local resources to offer pre-vocational guidance and counselling to enable participants to select a route into appropriate vocational training and employment including on-line local labour market information and job-seeking skills. To provide flexible, modular approaches to individual and group needs through customised training programmes, including open learning and IT in the development of Telecottaging principles. To link with local businesses to develop services available to them through telecottage facilities, including access to Avon Business Link and enterprise training. To offer accreditation of competence to progress attainment of NVQ's and entry into employment. To exchange information and staff with transnational partners and provide a model of delivery of community based services through tele-cottaging facilities. Pilot current resource to disseminate good practice for further geographical development and networking links home and trans-europe. Can this be done through the Web/Net? Lou
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Powering off without a mouse on a NSFIP system? Date: 19 Jul 1995 09:16:58 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <3uj0ka$qs@oclc.org> References: <3u9nc1$2c5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1995Jul16.224919.1079@xenicos.fdn.fr> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716230209.25929D-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> I'd like to introduce a new question to this thread: Why can't I power off my new Pentium NS 3.3 system WITH the mouse? When I get to the login screen, the buttons for powering off and restarting are "greyed out" and won't respond. I've been using the NMI method to shut down as a result. Is there some sneaky configuration trick I may have missed? Also, getting back to the original thread, I tried out the suggestion of typing "power" in the username field. I get bounced down to the password field, and after I hit return, the window shakes and I'm back where I started. I tried "Power" as well - same result. I didn't give "POWER" a shot yet (just saw the posting that listed it that way this morning). Thanks very much, Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: ward@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu (Reagen Ward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Color-Codes for NeXT hardware? Date: 19 Jul 1995 13:04:09 GMT Organization: University of Mississippi NDES Message-ID: <3uivs9$3a8@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> References: <DBy2Fz.5GF@world.std.com> > Stefan Huelf (stefan@a-gain.hanse.de) wrote: > > > : Does anybody happen to know the correct color codes for black hardware? > : Somebody told me that its somewhat dark-blue??? > I remember it being from Sherwin-Williams (a custom mix) and the mix was in the NeXTBus Specification book, I think. Not positive tho. -Reagen
From: evol@brian.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone using Fast Ethernet and NeXTStep ? Date: 19 Jul 1995 13:11:47 GMT Organization: University of Koblenz, Germany Message-ID: <3uj0aj$mjj@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Hello, there is a new Driver for DECchip21140 based Fast Ethernet cards (NeXTanswer 1926 / 1927). This Beta driver supports the following Ethernet Adapters: Cogent EM100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Cogent EM110 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Adapter SMC 9332 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Adapter DEC DE500 Fast EtherWORKS PCI 10/100 Is anybody using this driver ? What about the performance ? Thanks in advance Randolf Werner --
From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Powering off without a mouse on a NSFIP system? Date: 19 Jul 1995 14:26:59 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <3uj4nj$ms0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <3u9nc1$2c5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1995Jul16.224919.1079@xenicos.fdn.fr> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716230209.25929D-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> <3uegt3$4j0@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <3uicil$kpn@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> > Ehm, what keyboard mapping is set on your computer? (You have > to check the preferences of local user "root" to find out.) > My PC shuts down correctly, when I press the "Home" key. Just > where it should be... Sorry to follow up on my own answer: This works _only_ if you select one of the "NeXT..." keyboard mappings, for example "NeXTUSA" instead of "USA". Marcel Bresink - Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
From: Philip Hallstrom <philip@WOLFE.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Disabling "next" login, but not "unix" login Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:27:39 -0700 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950719102146.208C-100000@bob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I'm pretty new to the next so bear with me... :) What I want to do is for a given account disable the ability to login at the next login prompt while retaining the ability to allow that user to login using telnet, rlogin or whatever (assuming they are coming from some where else). I tried the Disable Login command on the User Manager, but that disables both. Is this possible? Does this even make sense? :) Thanks! -- Philip Hallstrom Wolfe Internet Access
From: seh@seh.codem.com (Stephen E. Halpin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 19 Jul 1995 17:09:11 GMT Organization: Personal Networks Message-ID: <3uje7n$1vs@regina.seh.codem.com> References: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Jul12.101649.55933@cc.usu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716224018.25929C-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716224018.25929C-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@rigel.oac.uci.edu> writes: <<<stuff deleted>>> >Well, from what I've heard on the Sun and HP ports, NeXT really needs a >hardware partner when porting to a particular platform like PowerPC. Yet >who will be NeXT's hardware partner for the PowerPC? IBM is probably >interested in advancing its troubled OS/2 and AIX rather than help porting >another Operating System. As for Apple, well, I don't even need to say >why. Apple and IBM have publically announced that Taligent will be their object framework standard. HP has since joined Taligent. If Taligent doesnt self destruct, it will be NeXTs main competitor, and like NeXT, theyve realized the value is in the objects and not the operating system. Lets face it, NeXTstep is nice, but theres nothing there that wont >eventually< show up in a low cost, high volume product. Either NeXT will lead there, or be run over like the Macintosh was run over by Windows. Its going to be a marketing war, not a technology war. >Regarding the comment on porting to all platform, sure it's probably >nice, but it's not wise to do so. I don't think any company can port its >OS to all platforms, not even Microsoft. As a lesson I learned in >physics, don't spread yourself too thin, or you will find yourself >crashing down to an unavoidable death. You have to go where it makes sense. Without multiprocessing and solid 2D and 3D graphics acceleration support, forget the high end. Without RAID and a journalling file system, forget the robust server market. That leaves NeXTstep in the PC to low end workstation market. I can get a 120MHz Pentium system for the cost of a 60MHz PowerPC system, and if I want something robust, I can get a DEC HX series PC with dual CPUs, ECC memory, 12 card slots, 9 hot swap drive bays, RAID SCSI controllers, redundant cooling and optional redundant power supplies - more performance, expandability and robustness at a lower cost relative to a SPARCstation 5. Target anything above this and youre in Alpha territory, where Digital UNIX offers features and robustness (clustering, real system failover, etc...) that NeXTstep will never have. The Intel based PC is the right target market for NeXTstep as an operating system, and the operating system hasnt progressed nearly as far as it should on this platform. -Steve -- -------------------- When all you own is a hammer, every problem is a nail. Too many folks grew up with nothing more than a hammer named U**X...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc References: <3tjbh6$108h@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <37730432@turbocat.snafu.de> <3u9db7$3d@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> From: "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 95 13:44:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Distribution: world Subject: Re: Panic during shutdown Message-ID: <37730443@turbocat.snafu.de> Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Axel Habermann wrote in article <3u9db7$3d@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> about Re: Panic during shutdown: (...) > I think there's something screwed up in your setup. Give more info on hardware/ > software if you want this problem solved :-) Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:31:49 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: I386 (Intel 586) Processor active: 0 Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 41 tasks, 75 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.03, Mach factor: 0.98 "Boot Drivers" = "EISABus PCIBus PCMCIABus PS2Keyboard Floppy SerialPorts Intel824X0 SYM53c8"; "Active Drivers" = "SerialMouse S3GenericDisplayDriver SCSITape ParallelPort NEx000"; The gfx card is an Miro 22SD, scsi is NCR 53c8, my board is an ASUS PCI/I-P54SP4. > Axel _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps) Subject: Re: Quieter fan Message-ID: <1995Jul19.193625.5040@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: Faculty of Applied Science, Simon Fraser University References: <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:36:25 GMT In article <3th87e$ptd@agate.berkeley.edu>, John Badanes <john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu> wrote: >Anybody have a solution to what I consider an outrageously loud fan in my >black NeXT slab? It's not broken...just 'loud by design.' Certainly there >are quieter fans on the market. Anyone ever replace the one that came with >the original computer who is now experiencing more peaceful sailing? Am I missing something here? I've worked with many, many slabs and never thought the fan in a slab was noisy! Once though a student asked me to order in a replacement fan as the original was noisy - turned out the hard disk had a bad bearing..! Have you tried disconnecting the fan connector on the cpu board to make sure that the fan is the culprit? --Peter
From: David W. Gotthold <blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Video Help FAST!!!! Date: 20 Jul 1995 00:39:31 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <3uk8k3$rhm@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> (I hope this post works) I just bought a Hercules Graphite (S3 964? 2meg VRAM) card and I need to know if it will work with my system. I can return it until tomorrow (thursday), but I don't have everything yet... Help!!!!! David -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu (NeXT Mail) blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Routing between TCP/IP LAN and PPP link In-Reply-To: gwu@lainet.com's message of 18 Jul 1995 19:57:33 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Jul19234835@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 03:48:35 GMT Your ISP (Internet Service Provider) is probably not processing your other IP addresses or you haven't configured routing properly. See the other article thread in this group for more info. Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088 In article <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> gwu@lainet.com (George Y. Wu) writes: I have a NeXTStation (ppphost) running NS3.2 and NeXT-PPP-2.2b02 that I use to dial into a dial-up PPP account to connect to the Internet. I have used the 'defaultroute' option to PPP so that by default external network traffic goes to remote PPP server. Everythings works fine (e.g. ftp, telnet, WWW etc.) on ppphost but other machines on the LAN can not access the Internet through the PPP link. Can someone tell me how to set up the LAN the all machines on the LAN can access the Internet through the PPP link ? I tried using the 'proxyarp' option to PPP but it complained that it can not determine the Ethernet address even though the address is in the NetInfo database. I tried adding a default route on the other machines to ppphost but it did not make any difference. I used traceroute on one of the LAN machines it showed that traffic gets to ppphost but it stops there with timeout errors. So, the specific question is that on ppphost, how do I forward traffic from other LAN machines to the PPP link ? I thought the 'defaultroute' PPP option on ppphost would have taken care of this ? Any help is greatly appreciated. George
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: English lady saying you've got mail Date: 20 Jul 1995 07:26:14 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <3ul0em$6lq@news4.digex.net> References: <3ui7ep$sit@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Hi, I'm looking for the sound file saying you have mail, as spoken > by the same english lady that did the sounds for the NeXT printer. > I checked the common sites, but didn't find it. > If anyone is willing to NeXTmail it to me, would you mail me > letting me know you have it? Hmm, this sound is turning out to be quite a prize... So far, I've gotton about a dozen 'send-me-a-copy' emails, and not one with the English NeXT lady... (I did get one of a US lady, but darn it, I like the English accent :) Anyway, If and when I get a copy, I will put them up onto the orst FTP site... Or perhaps someone with the sound file can do that themselves? Anyway, the best information I have about the whereabouts of this sound is that it was part of the NOVA CDROM. Does anyone out there with the NOVA CD know if there is any kind of restriction on re-distributing that sound? Thanks much for any/all help! -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Powering off without a mouse on a NSFIP system? Date: 20 Jul 1995 07:51:23 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <3ul1tr$qnr@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <3u9nc1$2c5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1995Jul16.224919.1079@xenicos.fdn.fr> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716230209.25929D-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> <3uj0ka$qs@oclc.org> > Why can't I power off my new Pentium NS 3.3 system WITH the > mouse? When I get to the login screen, the buttons for > powering off and restarting are "greyed out" and won't > respond. I've been using the NMI method to shut down as a > result. Is there some sneaky configuration trick I may have > missed? Log in as root and check the login window preferences with Preferences.app. If the switch "Disable Power Off" is set, this is the problem. Marcel Bresink --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Tel.: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: +49-261-9119-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (NeXT/MIME accepted)
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What time is it? Erratum Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:15:21 -0500 Organization: LakeHaven Distribution: world Message-ID: <9507200415.AA21567@mac> References: <3uhhgg$bfi@mailer.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <3uhhgg$bfi@mailer.york.ac.uk>, pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Re: What time is it? Erratum > Date: 18 Jul 1995 23:52:48 GMT > Organization: The University of York, UK > > Scrub the last answer - too late in the morning BST or evening GMT :-) > > 2pm EST = 7pm GMT = 8pm BST is correct. Yes but if I set the time as GMT-5 then the cleaning up process happens at 11PM (EST), while 4AM is far preferable. Also, there appears to be a difference between Windows time and NeXT time. Your posting has 23:52 GMT. Is that what time it is? Philip McDunnough LakeHaven,{Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dna-aj@pop.lu.se (Anders Janmyr) Subject: Q: Addressing in PDO. Message-ID: <dna-aj.8.00044B5B@pop.lu.se> Sender: news@nomina.lu.se (USENET News System) Organization: Lund University Computing Center Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:02:40 GMT Hello, I am looking for information about addressing in concurrent object-oriented environments. Someone told me about NEXTSTEPs Portable Distributed Objects (PDO) and said that they have implemented many features, which I am interested in. for example: Transparent addressing and Locating objects on remote servers. If anyone knows where theoretical background and implementation details about PDO and similar implementations can be found, I would appreciate if you could send me a mail. Thanks Anders Janmyr dna-aj@merkurius.lu.se
From: tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Disabling "next" login, but not "unix" login Date: 20 Jul 1995 10:15:02 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <TIGGR.95Jul20121502@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950719102146.208C-100000@bob> In-reply-to: Philip Hallstrom's message of Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:27:39 -0700 In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950719102146.208C-100000@bob> Philip Hallstrom <philip@WOLFE.net> writes: What I want to do is for a given account disable the ability to login at the next login prompt while retaining the ability to allow that user to login using telnet, rlogin or whatever (assuming they are coming from some where else). You could lock the next in a room and not give the key to the user you want to prevent from logging into the workspace. Or you could use the LoginHook functionality of the loginwindow.app. --Tiggr
From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstation won't shut down! Date: 20 Jul 1995 13:29:04 GMT Organization: Northern Telecom, Ltd. Message-ID: <3ulln0$6ae@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca> Hi Folks: Just recently I've started to have a problem with my NeXTstation (original 25MHz type). When I try to power it down, I get to the point where the power -should- go off, but the machine just sits there with the screen all-grey. If I power it off from the rom monitor (after it has gotten to this point of hanging), I have to let the system go through a complete disk check the next time I turn it on. Has anyone ever dealt with/fixed this problem before? thanks Rob -- Rob Parkhill, Software Guy Bell Northern Research, Ottawa phone:/613.763.6264/~rob mailto:rparkhil@bnr.ca
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTstation won't shut down! Date: 20 Jul 1995 14:14:14 GMT Organization: Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <3ulobm$dv5@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> References: <3ulln0$6ae@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rparkhil@bnr.ca rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) wrote: > Just recently I've started to have a problem with my NeXTstation >(original 25MHz type). When I try to power it down, I get to the >point where the power -should- go off, but the machine just sits >there with the screen all-grey. From my private FAQ: This can have two causes: 1) A program/demon/app refuses to die when told to do so by the Workspace Mangaer, which is not very insistent due to the possibility to save unsaved work etc. Log into a back door (telnet, serial line + old Atari ST, ...) and look what is still running, and if killing that program causes the computer to shut itself down. Happy shooting! 2) There was a rumour there is a preference setting which causes this behaviour. -- G.J. van Oldenborgh, Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics Leiden University gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep literature Date: 20 Jul 1995 14:30:06 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ulp9e$cd4@shelob.afs.com> References: <3ugulp$14j@emerald.oz.net> Art Isbell writes > We have potential customers who'd like to ignore us because we offer > a NEXTSTEP solution, but because it's so much better than the Windows > competition, they can't ignore us :-) I know this story, chapter and verse. > I've contacted NeXT's product information line asking for OpenStep info > and was sent a nice packet ... about PDO, not OpenStep :-( I called > back again trying to clarify my needs and was finally told that no > OpenStep-specific info is available from NeXT! When you make the same request of Sun, you get a nice packet...about DOE. I don't think either of their marketing units has done much work in this area. Maybe it's because deployment is 9 months away. > Come on, NeXT, how do you expect to sell if you can't provide a high- > level, written description of OpenStep and how it will operate under > other OS's like Windows? C'mon Art, how long have you been in this market? Need I say more? 8^) -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Zip Drive for black nextstation Keywords: Zip Drive Message-ID: <115788@dworkin.wustl.edu> Date: 20 Jul 95 16:36:01 GMT Organization: Washington University St. Louis, MO Hi everybody. I have a nextstation. I would like to buy a Zip drive from Iomega with SCSI interface and an adapter from 25pins to 50 pins and connect it to my NeXT. Has anybody done this? Is it possible to format a zip diskette as an external hard disk? If this is possible I would like to use it both for backup purposes and to extend my storate capacity. If you know how to do it, could you please send me an e-mail with some help how to do it? Thank you very much in advance, Andreas Bovopoulos abovopou@chipcom.com
From: schubert@stud.ee.ethz.ch (Alex Schubert ISG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NFS: Solaris2.4 Server-NeXTClient Date: 20 Jul 1995 11:25:57 GMT Organization: ETH Zuerich, Departement Electrical Engineering Message-ID: <3uleg5$e7j@elna.ethz.ch> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.sysadmin ] [ Author was Alex Schubert ISG ] [ Posted on 20 Jul 1995 11:25:17 GMT ] Hello, I have problems mounting nfs filesystems on NeXTstep (3.2, 3.3) clients exported by a Solaris 2.4 Server (using command share -Fnfs -o rw /path). I can't make NeXt Clients mount these filesystems, either using nfsmanager or mount. The other way round nfs mounting does work now (exported fs by next mounted on solaris client). Did anyone have similar problems? Thanks for any help Alex
From: robertn@seahawk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 20 Jul 1995 23:27:57 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <ROBERTN.95Jul20162757@seahawk> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-reply-to: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca's message of 20 Jul 1995 21:00:36 GMT In article <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) writes: Path: nwestnews!c1mpls!technix!mn.state.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca!sfoy From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 20 Jul 1995 21:00:36 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Lines: 21 References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] On 20 Jul 1995 17:54:50 GMT Kai S. Wong (kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote: >Could anyone tell me how to tell the NeXtmail include a signature file. >--KAI-- >-- This feature is not included with Mail.app. You can get other apps that will add the signatures for you (as well as quote and other features). I use MailHelper.app. This can be found at ftp.cs.orst.edu Regards, Shaun -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A> There is no need to use other apps here. All you need to do if get Carl Edman's excellent mailapp_utilities which includes a script which you can install as your mailer in Mail.app's preferences.
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 20 Jul 1995 21:00:36 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 20 Jul 1995 17:54:50 GMT Kai S. Wong (kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote: >Could anyone tell me how to tell the NeXtmail include a signature file. >--KAI-- >-- This feature is not included with Mail.app. You can get other apps that will add the signatures for you (as well as quote and other features). I use MailHelper.app. This can be found at ftp.cs.orst.edu Regards, Shaun -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A>
From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcpip,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3umv1h$og9@tst.hk.super.net> Control: cancel <3umv1h$og9@tst.hk.super.net> Date: 21 Jul 1995 01:16:16 GMT Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Distribution: world Message-ID: <3umv50$og9@tst.hk.super.net> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adaptec 1524 Date: 21 Jul 1995 01:02:55 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <3umubv$g1c@news.next.com> References: <DBwGG0.Dy@localhost.com> > In article <DBv8Iw.xE@zcias2.ziff.com> shacker@birdhouse.org (Scot Hacker) > writes: > > I'm considering installing NextStep on an Intel PC and I was just > > browsing through NeXT's web pages to see if all of my current hardware > > is supported. Under Adaptec, I see that they support the 154x line, > > but I didn't see any mention of the 152x line. (I have an Adaptec 1524 > > SCSI Direction. Do they really not support my card? If not, will I > > simply not be able to use my SCSI card, or is it basically the same > > card (using the same drivers)? > The 154x driver won't work with the 152x line of adapters. You could try the Adaptec_6x60 driver on the NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM. It works with the 1520 and 1522 adapters. It might work with the 1524. Hope this helps. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Computer, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: turnbull@datarev.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IFCONFIG with alias option needed for WWW Server Date: 20 Jul 1995 20:24:44 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <3ume2c$49o@romulus.ott.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in the process of setting up a WWW server under NS 3.3 on black hardware. I would like to set up the Apache server to serve multiple domains. In order for this to work however, ifconfig must support the alias option. NS 3.3 does not appear to do this. Does anyone have the source code for ifconfig with the alias option available or even compiled for the NeXT. I know that bsdi v2.0 supports the alias option. It strikes me that the source should be available from someone and that it would be fairly straightforward to compile. I would appreciate any help on this and I will post the results and/or a copy of ifconfig with the alias option if I can come up with it.I have to believe that others are having the same problem. Certainly anyone wanting to put up a web site under NS is going to confront this problem.
From: Philip Hallstrom <philip@WOLFE.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Compiling httpd1.4.2 on the next... Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 12:55:39 -0700 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950720125427.467A-100000@bob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been having tons of bad luck trying to do this, but can't seem to get it to work right. I know it can be done because I've seen a binary (don't ask why I can't use that). Any pointers? thanks, -- Philip Hallstrom Wolfe Internet Access
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 20 Jul 1995 17:54:50 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Could anyone tell me how to tell the NeXtmail include a signature file. --KAI-- -- Email: kwong@draco.ucs.mun.ca WWW: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ MWRC Supervisor & Webmaster[MUN DCS]
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 21 Jul 1995 02:56:59 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <3un51r$91r@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <ROBERTN.95Jul20162757@seahawk> On 20 Jul 1995 23:27:57 GMT Robert Nicholson (robertn@seahawk) wrote: >In article <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) writes: > Path: nwestnews!c1mpls!technix!mn.state.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca!sfoy > From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Date: 20 Jul 1995 21:00:36 GMT > Organization: The University of British Columbia > Lines: 21 > References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> > NNTP-Posting-Host: srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > On 20 Jul 1995 17:54:50 GMT Kai S. Wong (kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote: > >Could anyone tell me how to tell the NeXtmail include a signature file. > >--KAI-- > >-- > This feature is not included with Mail.app. You can get other apps that > will add the signatures for you (as well as quote and other features). > I use MailHelper.app. This can be found at ftp.cs.orst.edu > Regards, > Shaun > -- > \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / > | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | > / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ > <A HREF="http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A> >There is no need to use other apps here. All you need to do if get >Carl Edman's excellent mailapp_utilities which includes a script which >you can install as your mailer in Mail.app's preferences. Yes, this is very good. It automatically appends or prepends .rtf, .rtfd, and plain text sigs to your mails. I don't care for it as much because (if I remember correctly) it appends it adds the sigs once you send. You never actually see what you are sending :-( Therefore if you plan on changing the sig at all.. it isn't so great. Also, I am not sure if this utility allows you to quote or whether it takes advantage of Services. Mailhelper does. That is why i prefer that one :) Regards, Shaun. -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A>
From: boomer@walden.mo.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Computer Pros Needed Date: 20 Jul 1995 20:02:55 -0500 Organization: -=MO.NET=- P-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Sender: boomer@MO.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <3umubv$c1u@Walden.MO.NET> The company I work for needs experienced computer professionals in a number of areas. To find out more information and optionally fill out a resume contact the WWW site: http://205.164.65.46. If you do not have WWW access then you may mail me your resume at boomer@walden.mo.net. If this message has been sent to a news group that is not jobs related then we are looking for people specifically in that area. Sorry there is no name for the site currently. I am working on this. This is my own WWW site and will be up and down often. If it is not available when you try, try again latter. Thanks and good luck.
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3un51r$91r@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Control: cancel <3un51r$91r@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: 21 Jul 1995 06:05:17 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <3ung2t$9vi@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip Drive for black nextstation Date: 21 Jul 1995 06:41:07 GMT Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Message-ID: <3uni63$rpm@saba.info.ucla.edu> References: <115788@dworkin.wustl.edu> Keywords: Zip Drive In article <115788@dworkin.wustl.edu> andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) writes: > >Hi everybody. >I have a nextstation. I would like to buy >a Zip drive from Iomega with SCSI interface >and an adapter from 25pins to 50 pins and connect >it to my NeXT. > >Has anybody done this? I've heard ZIP drives work harmoniously with black Next hardware. However, we bought a zipper for our graphics service bureau and put it on our Mac network. It refused to operate correctly when any other devices were on its SCSI chain. Furthermore, the piece is pretty cheezy. Cheap plastic, and pretty amused at the transformer style plugin power adaptor. You get what you pay for. Charlie Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu **************************************************** * Graduate School of Psychology at Pepperdine * * * *Computers are useless, they only give you answers.* * -Pablo Picasso- * **************************************************** >
Date: 21 Jul 1995 13:55:19 GMT From: boomer@walden.mo.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: boomer@MO.NET Message-ID: <cancel.3umubv$c1u@Walden.MO.NET> Control: cancel <3umubv$c1u@Walden.MO.NET> Subject: cmsg cancel <3umubv$c1u@Walden.MO.NET> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca.
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: English lady saying you've got mail Date: 21 Jul 1995 14:49:47 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3uoeqb$ovv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3ul0em$6lq@news4.digex.net> In article <3ul0em$6lq@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > Hi, I'm looking for the sound file saying you have mail, as spoken > > by the same english lady that did the sounds for the NeXT printer. > > I checked the common sites, but didn't find it. I asked "the English lady" herself, Celia Fulton, and she says she would be happy to make more recordings; she didn't know anything about the NOVA CDROM. She says the originals only took a couple minutes to make; perhaps the simplest path would be to send your request to Doug Fulton, lbj@be.com.
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: #9 FX MOTION 771 Date: 21 Jul 1995 15:50:29 GMT Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS Message-ID: <3uoic5$m8r$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> #9 FX MOTION 771 has replaced the #9 GXE 64 PRO video board. I am trying to install NEXTSTEP into a Pentium PC with FX MOTION 771 4MB video board and all we have is a B/W low resolution screen. Has anybody experienced with this board? It seems that there is not a specific driver for it but I thought the driver for GXE 64 PRO should work.
From: newlink@mindspring.com (Larry Morrow) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Routing between TCP/IP LAN and PPP link Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 07:58:31 -0400 Organization: NewLink Global Engineering Corporation Message-ID: <newlink.1.00518712@mindspring.com> References: <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> In article <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> gwu@lainet.com (George Y. Wu) writes: >From: gwu@lainet.com (George Y. Wu)>Subject: Routing between TCP/IP LAN and PPP link >Date: 18 Jul 1995 19:57:33 GMT > I have a NeXTStation (ppphost) running NS3.2 and NeXT-PPP-2.2b02 that I >use to dial into a dial-up PPP account to connect to the Internet. I have >used the 'defaultroute' option to PPP so that by default external network >traffic goes to remote PPP server. Everythings works fine (e.g. ftp, >telnet, WWW etc.) on ppphost but other machines on the LAN can not access >the Internet through the PPP link. Can someone tell me how to set up the >LAN the all machines on the LAN can access the Internet through the PPP >link ? I tried using the 'proxyarp' option to PPP but it complained that >it can not determine the Ethernet address even though the address is in >the NetInfo database. I tried adding a default route on the other >machines to ppphost but it did not make any difference. I used traceroute >on one of the LAN machines it showed that traffic gets to ppphost but it >stops there with timeout errors. So, the specific question is that on >ppphost, how do I forward traffic from other LAN machines to the PPP link >? I thought the 'defaultroute' PPP option on ppphost would have taken >care of this ? > Any help is greatly appreciated. > George You did not provide some critical information. Do you have other addresses in from your provider that are in your class C block. For example, if your address is 131.34.155.55 the other addresses must be 131.34.155.xxx fro proxyarp to work. If not you must run proxy server applications on your computer. Good Luck Larry Morrow newlink@mindspring.com
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Alternate mail address for David Lambert Date: 21 Jul 1995 13:23:31 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3uonqj$85c@panix.com> Hi. If anyone has sent me mail (to dcl@homer.uu.panix.com) in the last week, I have not received it because my UUCP host died in the heat wave. Until it is repaired, I can be reached at dcl@panix.com. - David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Screen Fonts Date: 21 Jul 1995 16:24:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3uokb6$55j@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hi: Is there any way to create screen fonts from converted Type 1 fonts. I downloaded some really nice professional fonts (free and legal) as .pfb and .afm files and successfuly converted them to Postscript fonts, but they lack the bitmap file which makes them hard to read on screen at sizes less than 24 points. Any help is appreciated. -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
From: noahv@mccaw.com (Noah Van Loen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dwrites Date: 21 Jul 1995 16:29:23 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3uokl3$219@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Does anyone know where a list of dwrite values can be found? Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but it's not common to me... Thanks in advance, --- CYA L8R, Noah -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Opinions expressed are my own and my own only. So there!!! GCS/CC d+(-) s+: a- C++(++++) UHX++$ P+>++ L>++ E- W+(-) N++ K w++(--) O+>++ M- V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>++ t+ 5 X+ R tv+ b++>+++ DI++++ D++ G++ e++ h- r* y+* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip Drive for black nextstation Date: 21 Jul 1995 17:41:39 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3uoosj$8q9@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <3uni63$rpm@saba.info.ucla.edu> In article <3uni63$rpm@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes: > I've heard ZIP drives work harmoniously with > black Next hardware. It does indeed - I've used mine on a number of NeXTstep systems, both black & white hardware. Works like a charm. I have also used it on Macs, and a friend used it with DOS. Another friend is using his with NeXT, DOS, and NT. Other friends have had no problems with theirs, on several platforms. > However, we bought a > zipper for our graphics service bureau and > put it on our Mac network. It refused to > operate correctly when any other devices > were on its SCSI chain. Strange - certainly most people are having no problems. Perhaps you got a bad drive? Iomega is apparently very good about quickly replacing drives & disks with problems. > Furthermore, the > piece is pretty cheezy. Cheap plastic, > and pretty amused at the transformer > style plugin power adaptor. You get > what you pay for. Certainly the transformer is very large. (They do sell a smaller one separately, but I haven't seen it, so can't really comment.) As for the quality of the piece, it does have compromises (only scsi 5 or 6, no power switch, etc), but overall I'm extremely happy with it. Reasonable amount of storage, nice light drive (guess that plastic is a bit lighter than a metal case) - just under 1 pound, pretty fast (I've got an emergency NeXTstep boot zip disk - it's actually quite usable with that as a boot device), and yes, a very reasonable cost. I've used about 10 disks (with some more in reserve) and haven't had any problems with any of them. I guess my experience has been much better than yours. I plan on buying a Jaz drive shortly after it's released, as well. I want to do some audio stuff - this will finally give me the space I need. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 14335 Northeast 24th Street, Bldg B Bellevue, WA 98007 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI PROBLEM WITH NEXT CUBE Date: 21 Jul 1995 20:50:59 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3up3vj$4st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: SCSI Next Cube SuperFloppy HardDisk When I connect my PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 (set to "6", term switch "on") and my external hard drive (set to "4") to the SCSI on my NeXT Cube, the floppy does not respond, and, although the HD appears to be available, if I try to use it, the system completely hangs. Here's the configuration: SCSI SCSI |NeXT|--->|HARD |--->|FLOPPY| (term) |Cube| |DRIVE| |DRIVE | Used individually, the floppy and hard drives work fine. This is under NS 3.2. However, I didn't have any trouble using them together under NS 2.1. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: besler@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com (Steve Besler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Multiprocessing? Date: 21 Jul 1995 21:07:31 GMT Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Seattle, WA Distribution: na Message-ID: <BESLER.95Jul21140732@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com> References: <rfenney-120795013307@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Jul12.101649.55933@cc.usu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716224018.25929C-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> In-reply-to: "Someone@Somewhere"'s message of Sun, 16 Jul 1995 22:56:47 -0700 In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950716224018.25929C-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu> "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@rigel.oac.uci.edu> writes: From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@rigel.oac.uci.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 22:56:47 -0700 Organization: University of California, Irvine Well, from what I've heard on the Sun and HP ports, NeXT really needs a hardware partner when porting to a particular platform like PowerPC. Yet who will be NeXT's hardware partner for the PowerPC? IBM is probably interested in advancing its troubled OS/2 and AIX rather than help porting another Operating System. As for Apple, well, I don't even need to say why. Hmm, what' the name of that other company that has something to do with the PowerPC again? Hmm, I can't seem to remember... -- Steven Besler, Coop Student "I do not speak for Motorola." Motorola Wireless Data Group besler@mdd.comm.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: FN key simulation on Next Hardware Message-ID: <DC2sFy.5H9@prosoft.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:57:34 GMT Does anyone have a (free) filter that facilitates entry of key sequences generated by PC FN keys? -- Glen Biagioni ProSoft Solutions Inc. glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail Welcome) Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)324-9431
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip Drive for black nextstation Date: 22 Jul 1995 00:37:23 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3uph83$g57@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3uni63$rpm@saba.info.ucla.edu> ZIP disks plastic case is not great, but makes it very light :-) I have lugged it around in my case for more than a month no ill effects. Make sure you have your termination switch set properly at the back. My ZIP disk works perfectly with my NeXTstation Color. and my wife's PowerBook. We love it. -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip Drive for black nextstation Date: 22 Jul 1995 00:38:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3upha2$g5e@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> ZIP drive's plastic case is not great, but makes it very light :-) I have lugged it around in my case for more than a month no ill effects. Make sure you have your termination switch set properly at the back. My ZIP drive works perfectly with my NeXTstation Color. and my wife's PowerBook. We love it. -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon ATO has apparently shut its Oregon office Date: 22 Jul 1995 02:29:02 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3upnpe$5na@emerald.oz.net> References: <950721172111.223AACUQ.malc@daneel> In article <950721172111.223AACUQ.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 15:09:28 +0000 > From: more@power.globalnews.com > Subject: 1365 CANON SETS POWERPC BROADSIDE FOR TODAY > > CANON SETS POWERPC BROADSIDE FOR TODAY > Canon lost a small fortune > as a NeXT Computer Inc investor and needs to recoup. > Is this really true or is it just a paper loss? You don't lose a cent on stock holdings until you sell for less than you paid. Of course, you don't have use of the money spent on the stock until you sell. Has Canon sold some of its NeXT stock at a loss? --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154 Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: im_wchaa@uxmail.ust.hk (Wong Cheuk Hang Calvin) Subject: Can't install NSI 3.3 Message-ID: <1995Jul22.081007.4028@uxmail.ust.hk> Sender: usenet@uxmail.ust.hk Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 08:10:07 GMT I'm new to the world of NeXTstep. But after getting NSI 3.3, I can't even get it installed. My system config is : ASUS VL/I-486SV2GX4 mainboard, Am486-DX4-100, 32MB ram, Quantum ProDrive LPS 540, Mitsumi 4X ATAPI cdrom, Tseng ET4000W32I vga card and a taiwan VL EIDE I/O card The NeXT Mach OS can recognise both the harddisk and the cdrom, ( I used the whole hd for NeXTstep ), but in the middle of the copying of files from cdrom to hd, the system becomes panic, everytime the same place : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [stuff deleted ] root on sd0 rootdev 600, howto 0 mode = 0100644, inum = 2112, fs = /private/tmp/mnta panic : (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc panic : NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:31:49 PDT 1994; root (rcbuilder): mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 System Panic : ialloc: dup alloc (Type 'r' to reboot or 'm' for monitor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My stupid guess is ... 1. The root device is "sd0", my ATAPI cdrom, but the permission (?) is "600" ... is it the cause ? after I get into the "monitor", I can't get the disc "sync" ... but reboot is ok. 2. Is it because NSI only support Intel Processor ... I know this thought is quite stupid, but there is a line " (Cpu 0) " ... is it related ? Hope there is anyone who can help me ... -- .. D .......................zz.......Zzz...Zzzz.................zz.. . | O Wong Cheuk Hang Calvin . . +-|- Information & Systems Management im_wchaa@stu.ust.hk . . |/ \ Hong Kong Univ of Sci & Tech z .........Zzz............Zzzzz..................Zzz............zz........
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller) Subject: Shadows with brand new NeXT laser Keywords: NeXT laser printer Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 12:32:10 GMT Message-ID: <1995Jul22.123210.2119@proximus.north.de> Summary: new NeXT laser prints shadows on the paper. Hi, I just purchased a new NeXT laser from PrinterWorks, but unfortunatelly it does not print clean at all. There are black shadows on the left side of the paper, they seem to "reprint" the text after 13cm. Does anyone know what the problem could be, how I could fix it or if the printer needs to be repaired. My problem is that I bought it, as said, from PrinterWorks in the US but life in Germany. So sending the printer back would (a) cost me money and (b) time and (c) I cannot do much about it if they take a lot of time repairing it... So I would prefer if I could fix it here in Germany without too much hassle. Thank you for any help, Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: looking forward to a party... Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 11:07:02 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Distribution: world Message-ID: <950722120702.223AACUT.malc@daneel> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Having seen the following in csn.announce recently: > ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions/Encipher.1.0.SHIN.pkg.tar.gz > I wish DEC would sign up for a port of NEXTSTEP, then we could have SHINDig packages... Oh well. Have fun, mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones) Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Message-ID: <cjonesDC4tKF.8K7@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <ROBERTN.95Jul20162757@seahawk> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 19:17:03 GMT Sender: cjones@netcom2.netcom.com Robert Nicholson (robertn@seahawk) wrote: : There is no need to use other apps here. All you need to do if get : Carl Edman's excellent mailapp_utilities which includes a script which : you can install as your mailer in Mail.app's preferences. How does one do that - get Carl's app? thanks cjones
From: prometheus@bos-nagym.org (prometheus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ESU-CER'/0`DESE Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:23:24 GMT Message-ID: <aTiDP6Yf2YK2c@bos-nagym.org> Organization: bos-nagym Sender: prometheus@bos-nagym.org NNTP-Posting-Host: bos-nagym.org ********************* * * * FREE MONEY!!! * * * ********************* CAN BE YOURS! If you are an 80-IQ welfare mother producing illegitimate offspring at 9-month intervals starting at the age of 13. Generous funds are also available if you are an illegal alien in need of medical services while you give birth to a new "American" citizen, now that you are north of the Rio Grande. Grants to "help you get started" are available if you are a member of Jewish organized crime gangs newly arrived as "refugees" from Russia. If you are a homosexual "performance artist" the National Endowment for the Arts will pay you handsomely to literally or figuratively fling dung at your audience. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Canon ATO has apparently shut its Oregon office Message-ID: <jpanicoDC50KM.7q0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <950721172111.223AACUQ.malc@daneel> <3upnpe$5na@emerald.oz.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 21:48:22 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: : In article <950721172111.223AACUQ.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford : <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: : > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 15:09:28 +0000 : > From: more@power.globalnews.com : > Subject: 1365 CANON SETS POWERPC BROADSIDE FOR TODAY : > : > CANON SETS POWERPC BROADSIDE FOR TODAY : > Canon lost a small fortune : > as a NeXT Computer Inc investor and needs to recoup. : > : Is this really true or is it just a paper loss? You don't lose a cent : on stock holdings until you sell for less than you paid. Of course, you : don't have use of the money spent on the stock until you sell. Has Canon : sold some of its NeXT stock at a loss? : --- NeXT is not a publicly traded company. I believe that Canon gave them money for a stake in the company. If Canon wanted to sell their share of NeXT, they would have to find a private inestor (with lots of money) to buy it, and would also probably have to get the approval of NeXT. : Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com : NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154 : Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515 : CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 : contract and case management solutions -- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 22 Jul 1995 22:51:05 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <3urvcp$mgt@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <3umg5k$6u2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <ROBERTN.95Jul20162757@seahawk> <cjonesDC4tKF.8K7@netcom.com> On Sat, 22 Jul 1995 19:17:03 GMT Carl Jones (cjones@netcom.com) wrote: >Robert Nicholson (robertn@seahawk) wrote: >: There is no need to use other apps here. All you need to do if get >: Carl Edman's excellent mailapp_utilities which includes a script which >: you can install as your mailer in Mail.app's preferences. > >How does one do that - get Carl's app? >thanks >cjones It is at ftp.cs.orst.edu :) Shaun. -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199507221621.AA023150077@relay1.geis.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 16:13:00 UTC Subject: English Mail Sound <bil@ccrma.stanford.edu> writes: > I asked "the English lady" herself, Celia Fulton, and she > says she would be happy to make more recordings; she didn't > know anything about the NOVA CDROM. She says the originals > only took a couple minutes to make; perhaps the simplest > path would be to send your request to Doug Fulton, lbj@be.com. Please send it to me once it's done and I'll be happy to include it on the next release of the Nebula CDROM. BTW: Walnut Creek CDROM will be at Object World with some hot new product... Eric "E.T." Tremblay Walnut Creek CDROM Publishers of the Nebula CDROM for NEXTSTEP 1-800-786-9907 (510) 674-0783
From: jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James R. Merideth-Webb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing from a DOS diskette to a NeXT printer Date: Sun, 23 Jul 95 06:29:41 PST Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA Message-ID: <3utfhp$lko@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 I recently purchased a NeXTstation and printer which appear to work fine. I would like to create a file in a DOS/Windoz application and print the file via floppy dsikette on the NeXT printer. Is this possible and can anyone tell me how? Please send replies via e-mail. If there was any interest I could summarize and post later. Thanks. -- J. Webb Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing from NeXT to Mac - Solution Date: 22 Jul 1995 18:10:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3ureuk$pov@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hi: Yesterday, I finally was able to send print jobs directly from my NeXT through Ethernet to a Mac running lpdaemon and then on to two printers (one of them actually a remote queue). Works beautifully. What you have to do: 1. download lpdaemon from mac.archive.umich.edu 2. Install it in Startup Items folder 3. Install LPD.CONFIG in System Folder 4. Modify parameters in LPD.CONFIG for your computers and Printers. 5. Create a "Spool Folder" in your System Folder On the NeXT: 1. In NetInfo create a printer: You only need: name: LaserWriter (or whatever) lp: rm: mac.whatever.edu (Macintosh Server Computer name) rp: LaserWriter (whatever you named it in LPD.CONFIG) sd: /usr/spool/NeXT/Mac_Printer (create that folder) ty: Apple LaserWriter II NTX (your printer type) note: This is a remote Mac Printer in Rm. 1239 2. I had to add the ip_address of the Mac and create an artificial name for it (Quadra). It does not have an ip_name, just an address. Observations: 3. Obviously, when printing, Mac should be on and lpdaemon running. 4. Eventhough the CONFIG file allows for AppleTalk Zone specification, using it crashed the daemon. The easiest way to send the job to the default printer and set it on the Mac. 5. Do not use the count pages feature with remote queues, the queue never responds and the daemon waits in an endless loop. If you need more information, e-mail me. I can now print to: 300 LW II NTX 400 (NeXT Printer) 600 (HP 4Si) :-) -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is the Archive ORST? Date: 23 Jul 1995 15:31:36 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800 Message-ID: <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> Is orst healthy? I tried to log in but couldn't find any files? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: SCSI PROBLEM WITH NEXT CUBE Message-ID: <DC66EB.12r@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <3up3vj$4st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 12:51:46 GMT In article <3up3vj$4st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: > When I connect my PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 (set to "6", term switch "on") and > my external hard drive (set to "4") to the SCSI on my NeXT Cube, the floppy > does not respond, and, although the HD appears to be available, if I try to use > it, the system completely hangs. Here's the configuration: > > SCSI SCSI > |NeXT|--->|HARD |--->|FLOPPY| (term) > |Cube| |DRIVE| |DRIVE | > > Used individually, the floppy and hard drives work fine. This is under NS 3.2. > However, I didn't have any trouble using them together under NS 2.1. > > Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? Maybe the external hd has termination on (via jumper). Switch hd and fd and turn floppy termination off. SCSI SCSI |NeXT|--->|FLOPPY|--->| HARD | (term) |Cube| |DRIVE | |DRIVE | Juergen --- Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49 511 4406-17 == What time do we live in when a wine's class matters more than its taste, == when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Re: Where is the Archive ORST? Message-ID: <DC6KM3.48L@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 References: <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:58:50 GMT In article <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org writes: > Is orst healthy? I, too, tried to access ORST and found nobody home. Robert MacKimmie RM@califhistsoc.org
From: ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02 Date: 23 Jul 1995 19:55:37 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3uu9fp$933@www.its.com> OpenStep / NEXTSTEP fans: I am sure that many of you were, as I was, dissapointed to learn that NeXT is going to be charging a $450 entry fee to people for OpenStep days -- even if they have already paid to attend Object World. There is one category of person, the full conference attendee, who has an OPTION to also attend OpenStep days, but it would seem to this observer that the number of people electing to do so will be quite limited, given the other conference options. I thought that the marketing goal in holding "OpenStep Days" in conjunction with Object World was to attract people to NeXT who were not currently customers? It seems to me that creating a $450 barrier to attend NeXT's sales pitch is not going to encourage very many people to come over from OW... Which brings us to the question, much rumbled about in this news group of late, namely: What IS NeXT's marketing plan? Here are a few thoughts, based on the announced topics for OpenStep Day: I. Review of OpenStep Day topics a) Steve Jobs Keynote / Commentary b) Plenary Session 1 (Paul Hagerty) / Commentary c) Plenary Session 2 (Avie Tevanian) / Commentary II. An analysis of NeXT's business a) What is their product? b) Who is their competition? c) Who are their customers? III. A turnaround plan for NeXT I. Review of OpenStep Day topics a) OpenStep Day Keynote: >>The Future of Objects >> >>(Image:[Photo of Steve]) Steven P. Jobs 8:30a >>Steve Jobs delivers the opening keynote address to all >>OpenStep Day and Object World attendees. Steve will >>discuss the current state of objects in the corporate >>market, and how OpenStep the emerging volume object >>standard will allow object-based applications to be >>deployed across multiple operating systems and hardware >>platforms. In addition, Jobs will unveil new technologies >>from NeXT, including OpenStep objects for Windows as >>well as tools for building distributed applications on >>the World Wide Web. Well, at least this part of the program is also open to Object World attendees! But, I think that I have become completely immunized to the Steve Jobs reality distortion field. I was simply embarrassed for Steve and NeXT at the Application Developer conference in New York (though other people liked the presentation). Billed as an industry leader talking about the future of software development, especially the role of Objects, Steve's presentation was simply a sales demonstration for NeXT. If I had been a paying non-NeXT attendee to that conference I would have felt cheated. As it was, I was just bored. The only attention Steve got was when he described PDO for Windows NT as a "distributed OLE." THIS got people excited. Hopefully in the sales pitch planned for Object World, the "OpenStep objects for Windows" will be delivered to the world as "distributed OLE for Windows 95 and Windows NT." It is certainly true that on the date of the show, one week before Microsoft ships Win95, that the $1 billion marketing campaign will have reached a feverous pitch. So anyone catching onto the tail of that industry inevitability should sell some copies of their product. Of course, when the description reads "Jobs will unveil new technologies" they probably do NOT mean "announce shiping products" but only some vague futures. Vague futures brings us to the second point, "...as well as tools for building distributed applications on the World Wide Web." This strange statement is followed by a bizarre paragraph later on, when the guide describes the speech that Avie is going to give. I can't help but be reminded of the video that Sun used in their opening extravaganza at Sun World this year. For those of you who were not there, Sun focused on the World Wide Web (who isn't?) and the Internet for their marketing pitch. In the opening speeches for the show, Sun created a story line about a newspaper that was going out of business, "And the Internet is the only chance we have to save the paper." The presentations by Sun executives of new Sun products were all tied together by videos of this reporter wondering how he could use the Internet to save his company. The story ends happily, but its just a movie, as they say. How is the Internet going to save NeXT? And why are they spending money there rather than rebuilding their entirely decimated marketing department? More on this at the end of this analysis... b) Plenary Session 1 >>OpenStep: The Industry Standard Object Layer for Unix & Windows >> >>(Image:[Photo of Paul]) Paul Hegarty 9:45a >>Discover how NeXT and its industry partners are driving >>OpenStep to become the volume object standard, running on >>NeXT's MachOS, Sun's Solaris(tm), Digital's Unix(tm), and >>Microsoft's Windows NT(tm) and Windows 95(tm). Hegarty >>examines the OpenStep technology and products that provide >>a distributed, object-oriented application environment, >>allowing objects and applications to use common APIs and >>achieve portability regardless of the underlying operating >>system or hardware platform. He discusses how to use these >>technologies to build objects, frameworks, and applications >>that can be deployed transparently on clients, database >>servers, and compute servers. OK, the first session about what I thought the meat of NeXT's business was all about and OOPS, that language about Object World attendees being able to get in seems to be missing! I guess NeXT really doesn't want anyone to know about their products! Or maybe they are afraid of the really hard questions, like: "why is Sun going in a completely different direction from NeXT on their implementation of OpenStep? Doesn't this destroy the idea of a unified "OpenStep" industry standard? If Sun, the most important seller of UNIX in the world, is going to be selling a competing, incompatible version of OpenStep to the world, what is NeXT thinking when they say that OpenStep is an Industry Standard. Perhaps a more difficult question for NeXT to field -- "if I am going to be able to buy OpenStep from you on Windows95, why would I ever want to buy this MachOS thingy? I mean, how do I run Microsoft Word on this Mach operating system?" Face it, if NeXT really does ship a product for Windows NT and Win95 that is as good as OpenStep on Mach, why would anyone buy native NEXTSTEP? And if they don't ship a solid fully featured environment on Win95 and WinNT they will have their lunch eaten. Borland, for one, with their Delphi environment offers 80% of what OpenStep will offer for Windows NT and Windows 95. And with Novell's Tuxedo you even have a replacement for PDO. Other develompent tool vendors are coming to market as well, and NeXT will be in the thick of competition (another reason to go rebuild their marketing department!). So then the next session is what seems particularly odd: c) Plenary Session 2 >>Spinning an Object-Oriented Web: Connecting the Internet & Objects >> >>(Image:[Photo of Avie]) Avadis Tevanian, Jr. 11:00a >>The Internet and object technology are two of the hottest >>emerging technologies for businesses today. The Internet >>is allowing organizations to distribute vast amounts of >>information about products and services to new audiences; >>and this new digital medium is now being used to advance >>commerce. What if object technology and the Internet could >>find common ground and allow developers to use new tools for >>rapidly building Internet applications? Find out how NeXT is >>combining its industry-acclaimed object technology with the >>World Wide Web. Now, I am as big a fan of the Internet and the World Wide Web as the next guy. But what is NeXT thinking? Every company known to mankind is coming out with application development tools for the Internet. Announcing tools at Object World for delivery some time in the future is at best a no-op and at worst distracts crucial developer and marketing resources away from NeXT's core business. In the last few weeks, 14 different companies have announced development tools for building web applications -- from the very small (W3, Inc. of Palo Alto) to the very large (Oracle) with everyone in between as well (Spyglass, O'Reilly, Netscape, Information Builders, etc etc). Even IBM is providing a way for people to build WWW interfaces to DB2 databases. A recent glance at Yahoo showed 183 listings under "Computers:Internet:World Wide Web:Programming" and another 63 listings under "Computers:Internet:World Wide Web:Databases and Searching." And the funny thing is that the smart money is still waiting by the sidelines to see how this WWW thing develops. NeXT's traditional corporate customers are not rushing to exploit the WWW. They are waiting to see how it is going to be used, and what the environment is going to be -- Netscape? VRML? Hot Java? or something else that no one has thought of yet. It is going to be awhile, at least 6-9 months and probably more like 12, before it is clear how applications for the WWW are going to be developed and deployed. Right now the technology is barely out of its early desktop publishing stage, with most companies merely publishing electronic versions of their brochures or annual reports. And finally this brings us back to an analysis of where NeXT is going. For any business, this means analysing three factors: what is your product, who are your competitors, who are your customers. II. An analysis of NeXT's business a) What is their product? Above, I have tried to figure out what NeXT thinks its product is. From the descriptions, it sounds like it is (1) an operating system (OpenStep on Mach); (2) a cross-platform development and user environment (OpenStep on Solaris, DEC Unix, Windows NT and Windows 95); and (3) development tools for the World Wide Web. It may be that I am missing some important piece of this vision (for example, that network computing is one of the marketing/product development focuses for NeXT), but I am doing the best that I can from their official communications to the marketplace. Its not like they are going to tell their customers what their products are :-) b) Who are their competitors? On the competition front, I think it would be safe to say, with this broad a list of product, that virtually ever single software company is a competitor to NeXT. Now that is not entirely useful, but it does speak to one of NeXT's current problems (lack of focus). If I were to narrow this down, I would offer the following list, by product line: (1) OS competitors -- Sun and Microsoft. For their target customer, Macintosh is really not in the running, and DEC has only a very small part of the market. Lets define this first market as "Enterprise Computing" for when we get to the customer analysis. (2) Development Competitors -- Park Place/Digitalk (recently merged), Borland, Novell, Sun, Microsoft. In Sun's case, they are not "cross-platform" which is certainly a huge disadvantage for them. Microsoft and Borland are also not cross-platform but it doesn't seem to matter when you have 80% of the marketplace. (3) WWW tools competitors -- over 50 competitors. Since the marketplace has not been defined (not by NeXT or anyone else) it is difficult, if not impossible, to know which of those companies will emerge as competitors. A few probable ones though -- Microsoft Network may squash the WWW (I don't think it will, but it could), AOL (their separate Internet division is selling development tools), Spyglass (they are launching a database WWW development tool), Oracle, Information Builders, Netscape, Apple... Still too many competitors to come up with a marketing / product vision. c) Who are their customers? Finally, customers. In this case we can do some analysis of existing corporate customers of NeXT in order to understand, perhaps, where NeXT is going. The two markets that NeXT has traditionally sold into have been Financial and Telecommunications. Sales in the education market are almost entirely gone (by comparison) and sales in the transportation industry never really took off. Financial -- the world's large financial empires are being crippled (technology decision making-wise) by two trends, both related to profitability. First, the hugely profitable business of derivatives has crashed, taking down Barings PLC as a morality tale for everyone in the community. Virtually every large trading house has reported losses this past year, with Solomon being one of the most recent. Solomon specifically pointed the finger at NeXT customer Phibro Energy (a Solomon division) as the money losing group in their company. The financial industry has frequently been boom to bust to boom again. They spend heavily on technology when things are going well, and cut back to nothing when things fall apart. Expect "nothing" to be the answer from a lot of these firms as the recover from trading losses, and seek to build new profitable practices around a new set of financial products -- could be a few years. The second issue has to do with the bigger is better philosophy in some firms, such as (currently profitable) NeXT customer Nations Bank. Merger frenzy is just beginning to hit the global banking industry, and knowledgable insiders indicate that there will be a lot more mergers before it quiets down. Partially this has to do with good values because of recent low earnings (Swiss Bank acquiring S.G. Warburg, for example -- or NG acquiring Barings, both British banks). But partially it has to do with the ongoing automation of the financial industry, and the economies of scale that are possible as more and more of the business becomes completely computerized. While this could be a great opportunity for a company like NeXT, one necessary evil that comes along with merger activity is an enormous amount of chaos as the two corporate cultures, with conflicting strategic technology agendas, are forced together. Expect ongoing decision making holds in this sector, for at least the next 12-24 months as a result of this chaos. Telecommunications -- I understand that US West has entirely cancelled their NEXTSTEP projects -- can anyone confirm or deny this? Meanwhile the rest of this sector seems very quiet. I am not as familiar with Telcom as with Finance, but from the common sources of information (Fortune, WSJ, etc) it appears that much of the Telcom industry is spending their time fighting legal battles and lobbying battles, to transform their industry. This ongoing government interference is sure to slow technology acquisition, as it will be driven by companies entering new marketplaces. A second problem, effecting this industry, is massive debt associated with acquisitions of entertainment companies and cable companies in the recent past. If anything, the "Information Superhighway" marketing hype of the past few years caused a lot of companies to go deeply in debt trying to reorganize themselves to meet new opportunities. I think NeXT's opportunities are more promising here than in Finance, but even here there are definitely warning signals. Finally, where does this bring us to, in terms of a vision? III. A turnaround plan for NeXT If I review the products, customers, and competition, it seems to me that there is one area where NeXT excels, has few competitors, and will definitely have customers.... development tools for networked applications. While other companies offer both the distributed object capabilities of PDO (just go look at a list of OMG members), and the database independence of EOF (for example, Sun chose Persistence, over EOF, as their database layer for "OpenStep"), NeXT is the only company that offers a solid implementation of both, which work well together. Add to this a cheap (read FREE) network object communication library for Windows NT and Win95, and you'd have a very strong, very much needed product. This network object communication library would need to plug into Borland's Delphi, Park Place Smalltalk, Microsoft Visual C++ and Visual Basic, and even Sybase's Powerbuilder for corporate developers to take it seriously. But once NeXT had infected the client systems, money could be made selling the PDO/EOF engines for networked servers. This may not be a $billion business, but it could be a solidly profitable one. The rest of this stuff, OpenStep and WWW development tools, should be pitched, and the money spent on building up a marketing and sales organization tuned to the new networked application development product mission. Will NeXT do anything like this? Do they have some other plan that someday they will communicate to us? Stay tuned, sports fans. yours, Ted Shelton my own opinions, thanks ted_shelton@its.com -- <PRE> Ted Shelton, President IT Solutions, Inc. 500 West Madison, Suite 2210 Chicago, IL 60661 (312) 474-7700
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing NS on Intel (zeos). Question about drivers Date: 23 Jul 1995 21:09:37 GMT Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Message-ID: <3uudqh$j4g@independence.ecn.uoknor.edu> I am trying to install NeXTstep 3.3 on a Zeos Pentium-75 that my department just received. It does have an on-board scsi controller chip and the cd-rom is scsi. But the CD-ROM does not seem to have a device driver that the NS software recognizes. I have used NeXT machines for years and don't know anything about these intel machines, so am not certain how to determine which device driver I have, but it seems to be an AMD scsi. When I boot up, I get the following info: amd SCSI bIOS VERSION 2.0 SCSI ID: 2 Plextor CD-ROM PX-4XCS 1.01 I have an IDE hard drive. What do I need to do? The version of NS is very new and the Zeos is very new. Can I find what I need somewhere on the Net, or am I just out of luck? Many thanks for any help. ========================================================================= Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324 University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745 Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-2660 ========================================================================= --
From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IFCONFIG with alias option needed for WWW Server Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: 23 Jul 1995 21:56:12 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3uughs$1jj@tempest.symnet.net> References: <3ume2c$49o@romulus.ott.hookup.net> Hello, I believe that the kernel would also have to support the alias option as well. We moved our WWW server to a different platform because of this. We also got pre-compiled binaries for the other platforms. (Besides, I would rather be compiling on the next anyways :-) Dru turnbull@datarev.com wrote: : I am in the process of setting up a WWW server under NS 3.3 on black : hardware. I would like to set up the Apache server to serve multiple : domains. In order for this to work however, ifconfig must support : the alias option. NS 3.3 does not appear to do this. : Does anyone have the source code for ifconfig with the alias option : available or even compiled for the NeXT. I know that bsdi v2.0 supports : the alias option. It strikes me that the source should be available : from someone and that it would be fairly straightforward to compile. : I would appreciate any help on this and I will post the results and/or : a copy of ifconfig with the alias option if I can come up with it.I : have to believe that others are having the same problem. Certainly : anyone wanting to put up a web site under NS is going to confront : this problem.
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: EDIT and "Utilities" question Date: 24 Jul 1995 01:15:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3uus8a$8jf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: Edit Utilities Under NS 2.1 I was able to use "Utilities" to allow a Unix command to process a selected portion of text. After upgrading to 3.2, I find that there is no "Utilities" option on my Editor menu, even though Help? says it's there. This was a very useful feature for me. How come it's gone? Jim Beauchamp
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SCSI PROBLEM WITH NEXT CUBE Date: 24 Jul 1995 01:19:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3uusei$8pv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3up3vj$4st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: SCSI Next Cube SuperFloppy HardDisk In comp.sys.next.misc you write: >Maybe the external hd has termination on (via jumper). >Switch hd and fd and turn floppy termination off. > SCSI SCSI > |NeXT|--->|FLOPPY|--->| HARD | (term) > |Cube| |DRIVE | |DRIVE | > Maybe you're right about the internal termination, but I already did try your configuration, and it still didn't work. Thanks for the idea, though. Jim Beauchamp
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02 Date: 23 Jul 1995 22:07:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3uuv85$hjs@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3uu9fp$933@www.its.com> Thank you a detailed complete statement I can't wait to read the excuses oops responses This is what was being said all along what is really going on
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: IFCONFIG with alias option needed for WWW Server In-Reply-To: turnbull@datarev.com's message of 20 Jul 1995 20:24:44 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Jul23223444@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <3ume2c$49o@romulus.ott.hookup.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 02:34:44 GMT Please report this to bug_next@next.com and stress the importance of it for WWW servers. Robert In article <3ume2c$49o@romulus.ott.hookup.net> turnbull@datarev.com writes: I am in the process of setting up a WWW server under NS 3.3 on black hardware. I would like to set up the Apache server to serve multiple domains. In order for this to work however, ifconfig must support the alias option. NS 3.3 does not appear to do this. Does anyone have the source code for ifconfig with the alias option available or even compiled for the NeXT. I know that bsdi v2.0 supports the alias option. It strikes me that the source should be available from someone and that it would be fairly straightforward to compile. I would appreciate any help on this and I will post the results and/or a copy of ifconfig with the alias option if I can come up with it.I have to believe that others are having the same problem. Certainly anyone wanting to put up a web site under NS is going to confront this problem.
From: davids@primate (David Slotnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EDIT and "Utilities" question Date: 24 Jul 1995 03:34:00 GMT Organization: Tezcat.COM, Chicago Message-ID: <3uv4b8$6mu@quilla.tezcat.com> References: <3uus8a$8jf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: > Under NS 2.1 I was able to use "Utilities" to allow a Unix command to process a selected portion of text. After upgrading to 3.2, I find that there is no "Utilities" option on my Editor menu, even though Help? says it's there. This was a very useful feature for me. How come it's gone? > Jim Beauchamp You're probably running in "User Mode". Try changing to "Developer Mode" with Info->Preferences and restarting the app. --- David Slotnick NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Consultant / Analyst Primary email: dls@fnbc.com Secondary: slotnick@tezcat.com Mobile: DSlotnick@eworld.com Work Phone: (312) 407-4967
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 24 Jul 1995 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3uv6of$l9a@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Kaweh Kazemi <K.Kazemi@infosys.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: PROBLEM INSTALLING NS 3.3/Intel Date: 24 Jul 1995 09:18:02 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3uvoga$4ff@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi folks, i am new to the world of NeXTSTEP, and got problems installing it, i don´t even get to the installing process... first my config... Intel Saturn PCI board, P4I420 (486DX2-66) AMI BIOS 16 MB Adaptec SCSI controller 2940 SCSI ID #0 - IBM DSAS-3540 540MB harddisk SCSI ID #3 - Sony CDROM CDU-561 miroCrystal 20SD PCI Rev. 3.61 2MB SB 16 that's what happening: i insert the installtion disk, it starts to boot. After "Sizing Memory..." my screen gets black and thats all. The LED of my floppy is still on, but nothing happens...i do not get a boot message, not even the boot: prompt...!?! Does somebody knows what to do? Is there something wrong with my BIOS??? please help... thanx kaweh ______________________________________________________________________________ Kaweh Kazemi Vienna University Of Technology Austria email: K.Kazemi@infosys.tuwien.ac.at ______________________________________________________________________________ "We don't know - like...we're dumb!" - Beavis & Butthead
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott) Subject: Re: Canon ATO has apparently shut its Oregon office Message-ID: <DC7yu4.JGq@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <jpanicoDC50KM.7q0@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:40 GMT In article <jpanicoDC50KM.7q0@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > (All sorts of stuff on Canon shares) > Joe Panico > jpanico@netcom.com > > /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */ I guess I missed the thread you were tracing. Was there Canon pressrelease stating about a investment-loss of cAnon? Jan Roskott
From: evol@brian.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Framegrabber for NeXTStep 3.3 (Intel) Date: 24 Jul 1995 14:09:36 GMT Organization: University of Koblenz, Germany Message-ID: <3v09j0$hm0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Hello, is there any Video Framegrabber supported by NeXTStep 3.3 or third party software for Intel hardware ? Thanks in advance Randolf Werner --
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is the Archive ORST? Date: 24 Jul 1995 16:51:37 GMT Organization: OpenSource Inc. Message-ID: <3v0j2p$2dt@trane.opensource.com> References: <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> In article <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org writes: :Is orst healthy? I tried to log in but couldn't find any files? : :-- :---------------------------------------------------------------- :Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK :rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available :---------------------------------------------------------------- Are you sure that you are logging into ftp.cs.orst.edu and not the old address cs.orst.edu instead? Only the ftp.cs.orst.edu one works. Also, the path is /software/NeXT/binaries/ ...(etc)... -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: apandit@acs.uswest.com (Ajay Pandit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02 Date: 24 Jul 1995 15:36:51 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <3v0emj$420@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <3uu9fp$933@www.its.com> In article <3uu9fp$933@www.its.com> ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) writes: > > > OpenStep / NEXTSTEP fans: > > c) Who are their customers? > > Telecommunications -- I understand that US West has entirely cancelled > their NEXTSTEP projects -- can anyone confirm or deny this? > Not True. We are still using NEXTSTEP and have no plans (as far as I know) of cancelling NEXTSTEP projects. - Ajay Pandit US West
From: MS <msuwandi@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multiboot with NT3.51 Date: 24 Jul 1995 19:07:24 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <3v0r1c$c1p@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the situation, I have two IDE 515MB HardDisk. I have Windows NT 3.51 and NextStep (for Intel) 3.3. What are the scheme possibilities of installing 'em? (I have NT running on my first HD formatted with FAT-16 filesystem) One possibility is I installed NS in the second HD,and boot from a setup disk (at least this is one option that is suggested by the installer) but I have to set the 2nd HD into master and then install NS from there. It works fine,but the problem is I connot get the 2nd HD to boot. What I did is to boot from the setup disk, tried to use the boot command "hd1()mach_kernel", but it doesn't do the trick. So, guys, what am I supposed to do? HELP ME OUT!!!
From: jjfeiler@mccaw.com (John Feiler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multisession PhotoCD Date: 24 Jul 1995 18:59:35 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3v0qin$ivn@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Hi all: I find myself needing to read some multisession PhotoCDs under Nextstep. I seem to recall that there was a company in europe that sold a replacement cdrom.fs that understood the multisession disks. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost my reference. Does anyone out there know of this company, or am I hallucinating again? Thanks in Advance, John
From: davida@marple.umd.edu (David Arnold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with tape drive Date: 24 Jul 1995 16:50:05 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: na Message-ID: <3v111t$crj@marple.umd.edu> I am assisting a user who has recently tried to add a tape drive to their (black HW) NeXTstation Turbo running NS3.0. As far as we can tell we're setting the jumpers right, but no matter what we do the system always seeks from the external disk rather than trying to boot from the (properly formatted) internal disk. If we remove the external drive, all works properly. I've tried various target numbers on the external drive (2,5,6) but to no avail. I've tried forcing it to boot from a specific device with 'bsd -a', but that fails too. No matter what, when the external drive is attached, it is always checked first. It used to be attached to a DECstation, so it's not a problem with bad media. My two ideas are that it's incompatable with the NeXT, or something's fried the jumpers and it's permanently set to target 0. The drive is a Seagate Wren V 700 MB drive, purchased around 1990. It's supposed to be SCSI, but the only documentation (for a Wren 3 drive) says it's an ESDI drive. Does anyone know if this is compatable with the NeXT turbo system or not? Please reply via e-mail, as I don't get here often enough, and they're eager for a resolution. Thanks in advance, David Arnold (301)405-7636 Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Consultant, CSC NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu University of Maryland URL: http://sirius.umd.edu/~davida/ College Park, MD 20742
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> Subject: Re: Screen Fonts In-Reply-To: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu's message of 21 Jul 1995 16:24:06 GMT Message-ID: <psaga4do3g.fsf@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <3uokb6$55j@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:26:11 GMT Wassim> Hi: Is there any way to create screen fonts from converted Type 1 Wassim> fonts. I downloaded some really nice professional fonts (free and Wassim> legal) as .pfb and .afm files and successfuly converted them to Wassim> Postscript fonts, but they lack the bitmap file which makes them Wassim> hard to read on screen at sizes less than 24 points. Wassim> Any help is appreciated. Well, that they're hard to read indicates that they're probably not hinted very well. You get what you pay for :-). Beyond that, if you want good screen fonts you'll have to find some hand-edited bitmaps or crete them yourself. Then, you'll need to get those bitmaps into BDF form. I believe Fontographer on the Mac can do that, though you'll want to check. I don't know of any NeXT programs that will. Once you have the BDF files, read up on the man page for prebuild. That will build the .bepf and .lepf prebuilt files that are used on the screen. If you have the PostScript Language Reference Manual, you'll want to read the tail end of the section on fonts to find ou more about the Display PostScript-specific flags for dealing with prebuilt fonts. -- Scott Byer E-Mail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === === C++ is to C as lung cancer is to lung.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: cornhead@netcom.com (Jeff Miller) Subject: What happened to oscilloscope/waterfall-plot FFT demo? Message-ID: <cornheadDC8zoy.LBr@netcom.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: cornhead@netcom7.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Distribution: na Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 01:19:45 GMT Hi! I just got a NeXT cube, I think it has OS version 2.0 or 2.2 or something. I can't find the oscilloscope/waterfall plot FFT demo which so impressed me on the first NeXT's I saw years ago. What's the scoop? -Jeff
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NS and Laptops Date: 24 Jul 1995 19:04:25 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3v0qrp$3ef@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hi all, I posted this question about six months ago, and didn't get any responses from NS/intel users (only Sun voyager users). I would like to know if anyone is using a NS/FIP laptop of some type, and how happy they are with it. In particular, I'd like to know if anyone has been able to install NS on a laptop other than the NEC ultralight. thanks in advance, rosie -- Thanks for the bandwidth. Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Steve Rosenblum, 1995. License to distribute
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: HP DAT tape for NSFIP Date: 25 Jul 1995 02:36:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <3v1lbq$qqa@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3v111t$crj@marple.umd.edu> Hi I currently have been using my SCSI HP35450a DAT tape on my 712 workstation. I just wondered can I also use the same DAT tape on my intel machine running Nextstep ? Thanks for any help Kurniawan
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Repeating sounds after HW upgrade Date: 25 Jul 1995 01:20:36 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3v1gt4$11p1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello all, I have finally managed to fix my system. It used to panic at least once a day, but a new motherboard and memory (thanks to the excellent service and support of Data Net :) has brought new life to my machine. Now, however I have a strange problem. Any system sound gets repeated 8 times. So, for instance, when I receive mail, the mail sound repeats 8 times. Control-G in a terminal window does the same. The old motherboard was a Plato with a Neptune chipset. The new has the Triton chipset. Otherwise, all the HW is exactly the same. The SW hasn't changed either (I just powered down, swapped motherboards, and powered up). I have a Microsoft Windows Sound card. I tried changing the DMA channel from 3 to 1. That didn't help. I only have two IRQs free. Currently, the sound card is set to 7. Changing to 11 disabled the card (system was unable to get the new IRQ). Any ideas how to fix this? All tips appreciated! Thanks, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: NeXT's OpenStep vs. Sun's Openstep? (Was: NeXT's Vision..) Message-ID: <jpanicoDC97o7.ACF@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 04:12:07 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com ACK! What's this about NeXT and Sun pursuing different, and incompatible, implementations of OpenStep? Does this mean that NeXTStep for Sparc will not be OpenStep Compliant? Could someone please elaborate on this topic? -- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: gcl@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is the Archive ORST? Date: 24 Jul 1995 23:24:04 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems. Lansing, MI (USA) Message-ID: <3v1a2k$evq@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> <3v0j2p$2dt@trane.opensource.com> : Are you sure that you are logging into ftp.cs.orst.edu and not the old : address cs.orst.edu instead? Only the ftp.cs.orst.edu one works. Also, : the path is /software/NeXT/binaries/ ...(etc)... Hmmmm, I thought the path was /pub/next/..(etc) gary -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@sojourn.com no NeXTmail yet please __________________________________________________________________
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS-3.2 Developer and BackSpace Modules Date: 25 Jul 1995 14:15:10 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <3v2u9f$rd3@crcnis3.unl.edu> Here's a quick, possibly naive, question: I see that there are many BackSpace Module source examples included with NS-3.2 Developer. I've tried building them, but BackSpace refused to load them: "Cannot Dynamically Load Class ...". I've tried 'make install' from the command line (as per the README instructions in the module source directories), but the resulting modules don't work. Are the source modules ALL incorrect, or am I doing something wrong? --- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME) Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747 Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466 University of Nebraska - Lincoln http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
From: Kaweh Kazemi <K.Kazemi@infosys.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: PROBLEM INSTALLING NS 3.3/Intel Date: 26 Jul 1995 12:14:13 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3v5bil$37h@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <3uvoga$4ff@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Problem solved... thanx kaweh ______________________________________________________________________________ Kaweh Kazemi Vienna University Of Technology Austria email: K.Kazemi@infosys.tuwien.ac.at ______________________________________________________________________________ "We don't know - like...we're dumb!" - Beavis & Butthead
From: ken@infoman.com (Ken Craig) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Routing between TCP/IP LAN and PPP link Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:45:50 -0400 Organization: Information Mangement Inc. Message-ID: <ken-2507951445500001@witsmac5993.turner.com> References: <3uh3nd$bmm@lainet2.lainet.com> <newlink.1.00518712@mindspring.com> I was having similar problems running MachTen on a Mac (it's Mach and very similar to a NeXT). We have a class C address. To solve the problem I run 'routed -g' (I HAVE to use the -g option or it doesn't work). This seems to fix the problem but I don't understand why I have to run this too. Doesn't ppp's defaultroute turn that machine into a router? Ken Craig ken@infoman.com
From: pisul_cj@cowley.uwlax.edu (Charles Pisula S92) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Urgent: Need Installation Help........ Date: 25 Jul 1995 18:33:32 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <3v3dds$qsi@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Hello, If any one can help me with my NS 3.3 installation, I will eternally be grateful. For some unknown reason, I can't even get past the CD-ROM being recognized. After installing the device drivers from the diskette, the error message the boot manager gives me is: > Registering > Reseting sc0 > AHA timeout > Reseting sc0... >>> repeat the last two messages over and over. Here is my system config: Dell Dimension p100c (pipeline burst cache). #9 - 128 bit card, 4M VRAM. 32 M RAM 1.081 G IDE Seagate HD. EIDE HD interface. 1542B Adaptec, NeXT 1X CD-ROM (I have also tried the SONY 76E-S ATAPI CD-ROM, with no success.) I have about 1 week left to get the install to work, and If I can't get it to work I will have to return the computer (how extremely depressing). Here is what _REALLY_ has me and others baffled. the adapter and CD-ROM mentioned above are routinely used by my network administrator to install NS (3.3) on other Dell machines. The only difference being they are p90's (no pipeline burst cache), and have the #9 64-bit card. The install goes through without a hitch. Also, I've called NEXT numerous times and haven't gotten much satisfaction, and of course at DELL I can't find any one who knows any thing about NEXT. Oh well, I know I should have bought a certified system but as a student, money is tight and I could get the most system for the buck from DELL, live and learn I guess. -- Chuck ------------------------------------------------- Steve Jobs quote From UnixWorld, April 1993 "If we give people an alternative to Microsoft... it will have been a greater good." ------------------------------------------------- ***
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 26 Jul 1995 12:38:15 GMT Organization: BT Labs Message-ID: <3v5cvn$8i3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although SoftPC is okay for some applications I still need to use MS Windows application - 'cause I can't afford to buy NeXTstep applications to replace MS Office etc. I would like to throw MS Windows 3.1x out and use Win95 or NT3.51 (preferred). NT would also allow me to buy into Openstep to test and demonstrate our NS apps under NT/Win95. Has anyone tried to install NT3.51 on the same systems as NeXTstep? Does NT have to go into another partition (other than DOS)? I doubt that it is worth installing Win95 as I have NT3.51 but I would also be interested to know if anyone has a multiple boot to other operating systems. Thanks Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: corrigan@uhcl2.cl.uh.edu (CORRIGAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrades for NeXT? Date: 25 Jul 1995 22:47 CDT Organization: University of Houston - Clear Lake Distribution: world Message-ID: <25JUL199522473557@uhcl2.cl.uh.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Pump 'em or dump 'em? Are there any upgrade products out there for NeXT machines? Accelerators, especially? We're wondering if we can somehow undertake serious image editing work with our machines, or do we have to trade them in for Power Macs? Anyone with any info on NeXT upgrades/tweaking tips, please respond to: CORRIGAN@CL.UH.EDU. or... (713) 280-8635 Rick/Trey
From: Remo Valerioti <rvalerio> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 26 Jul 1995 14:28:12 GMT Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico Message-ID: <3v5jds$k3q@pobox.cscs.ch> References: <3v5cvn$8i3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: gfg@info.bt.co.uk I installed NT3.5 on the same disk using two logical partition. The first partition for NeXTStep 3.3 and the second one for NT3.5. At the startup you can have a multiple boot and decide which OS you would like to work with. For WIN95 is not the same, because during the installation WIN95 sets the activate partition by itself and doesn't have a multiple boot. To change from one OS to the other you have to use the fdisk program and change the activate partition manually. Remo Valerioti CSCS.CH -----------------------------------+---------------------------------- The views, opinions, and information contained in this personal page do not necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of CSCS-ETHZ nor does publication of this information imply an endorsement by CSCS. -----------------------------------+---------------------------------- CSCS.CH
From: a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Plan 9 Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:27:57 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <3v61fd$sgq@ftp.univie.ac.at> Has anybody tried Plan 9 on black hw and some feedback on it. THX ---------------------------=================--------------------------- Michael F. Alexander Michael.Alexander@serv.univie.ac.at ---------------------------=================---------------------------
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PLI Floppy Problem Date: 26 Jul 1995 17:24:48 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3v5tp0$hak@emerald.oz.net> References: <3v3i8b$1s3@trane.opensource.com> In article <3v3i8b$1s3@trane.opensource.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > In article <3v34gg$vit@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca > (David Hill) writes: > :Without warning, my PLI 2.88MB floppy went into a continuous > :ejection mode after it ejected the resident disk when I > :logged out. I was able to stop it by powering down the > :system and powering up again, but as soon as I logged in, > :it started continuously ejecting imaginary floppies again > :(I had not inserted a floppy this time). > > I have a PLI Superfloppy 2.88 as well. Since upgrading to NS 3.3, the > automatic eject no longer works on this device ( I have to manually eject > it with a coathanger). Perhaps there is a bug in the driver that effects > the eject mechanism? I did notice that it will now format NEXTSTEP > floppies (a feat that was impossible under NS 3.2 for some reason). > I just inserted, read, and ejected a floppy from my PLI SuperFloppy using the Workspace Disk>Eject menu command and I'm running NS 3.3 User and Developer. And lo and behold, I can now initialize a floppy without using the disk command and a bunch of shinanigans to prevent failure due to the boot block exceeding the size of the front port (whatever that means :-) Thanks for the fix, NeXT!! --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Subject: Re: NeXTcube gets exceptions when booting Message-ID: <DCDAw2.KK5@localhost.com> Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <3v7bvb$mn4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:12:02 GMT In article <3v7bvb$mn4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> faizel@borg (Faizel Dakri) writes: > Hi all, > > I've got a question concerning my cube. Occasionally the machine won't boot > up because it gets an exception and then traps to the ROM monitor. The > sequence of events is as follows: > > - power the machine on > - the machine says that it passed all of the System Tests > - then I get the waiting for drive to come ready message > - and then immediately after the previous message, I get the > following: > > "Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x1008870" Exception #2 on Motorola 680x0 processors means bus error, i.e. a pointer to a protected/unoccupied memory area or (more likely) a RAM error. I frequently got this error when I disabled parity checking even if parity memory is present, which seemed to be a bug in my ROM version. Volker --- This posting is (c) 1995 V. Herminghaus (vhs@langen.bull.de). Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft Corp. for $1 per line. Distribution without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. Send notices of violation to Postmaster@microsoft.com and vhs@langen.bull.de
From: cortesr@alleg.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Alexandra Date: 27 Jul 1995 14:00:47 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3v866f$a4a@mustang.alleg.edu> Hello! Does anyone remember the site to get Alexandra version 0.8?? Thanks, Ricardo -- Ricardo Cortes Allegheny College cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK) http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:38:30 -0500 From: Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Message-ID: <9507271538.AA06950@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Subject: looking for address for NetSurfer Inc. Hello Subject says it all -- looking for phone # or e-mail info. Thanks Bob Kurhajetz USN NSW CD Bethesda, MD 20084
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 27 Jul 1995 17:39:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: Dancing Bear Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. Jim Beauchamp
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 27 Jul 1995 14:54:06 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <3v89ae$g7c@news.xmission.com> References: <3v5jds$k3q@pobox.cscs.ch> <3v73qf$qvu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Alvin Jee (alvin@cse.ucsc.edu) wrote: : Remo Valerioti <rvalerio> writes : > For WIN95 is not the same, because during the installation WIN95 sets the : > activate partition by itself and doesn't have a multiple boot. : > : > To change from one OS to the other you have to use the fdisk program and : > change the activate partition manually. : Hmm.. so I guess it's not a good idea to put NS on the same disk as Win95.. : How about putting another drive on the SCSI chain solely for NeXTSTEP? Is it : possible to have the boot process prompt which OS (drive) to boot without : using fdisk to change the active partition? : -- : Alvin Jee : alvin@cse.ucsc.edu : NeXTMail gleefully accepted! : Using the Internet since 1984 : http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~alvin I use the OS/2 boot manager to boot between Win95 and NEXTSTEP. Just set aside 1 MB for it when loading your OS, then make the 1 MB partition active using fdisk. Works fine. -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EDIT and "Utilities" question Date: 27 Jul 1995 17:47:10 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3v8jeu$npk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3uus8a$8jf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3uv4b8$6mu@quilla.tezcat.com> davids@primate (David Slotnick) writes: >beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: >> Under NS 2.1 I was able to use "Utilities" to allow a Unix command to >> process a selected portion of text. After upgrading to 3.2, I find that >> there is no "Utilities" option on my Editor menu, even though Help? says >> it's there. This was a very useful feature for me. How come it's gone? > >You're probably running in "User Mode". Try changing to "Developer Mode" with >Info->Preferences and restarting the app. > >David Slotnick >NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Consultant / Analyst Thanks for the suggestion, but there is no "Developer Mode" under Info->Preferences. Remember, WriteNow is not supplied with 3.2, but is a carry-over from 2.1. Jim Beauchamp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Dennis I. Gould <DIG@Gould.COM> Subject: Re: Color-Codes for NeXT hardware? Message-ID: <DCDpA5.C4M@gould.com> Sender: dig@gould.com (Dennis I. Gould) Organization: The Gould Group Companies References: <3uivs9$3a8@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:22:53 GMT In article <3uivs9$3a8@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> ward@hydra.cche.olemiss.edu (Reagen Ward) writes: > > Stefan Huelf (stefan@a-gain.hanse.de) wrote: > > > > > > : Does anybody happen to know the correct color codes for black > hardware? > > : Somebody told me that its somewhat dark-blue??? > > > > I remember it being from Sherwin-Williams (a custom mix) and the mix was > in the NeXTBus Specification book, I think. > Not positive tho. > > -Reagen This may do it- not positive tho: Sherwin Williams NeXT Black F73WXB4337-8127 -- Dennis I. Gould DIG@Gould.COM NeXT Mail & MIME PGP Key available on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Dennis I. Gould <DIG@Gould.COM> Subject: Re: NeXTstation won't shut down! Message-ID: <DCDq04.CF8@gould.com> Sender: dig@gould.com (Dennis I. Gould) Organization: The Gould Group Companies References: <3ulobm$dv5@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:38:27 GMT In article <3ulobm$dv5@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> writes: > rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) wrote: > > Just recently I've started to have a problem with my NeXTstation > >(original 25MHz type). When I try to power it down, I get to the > >point where the power -should- go off, but the machine just sits > >there with the screen all-grey. > > From my private FAQ: > This can have two causes: > 1) A program/demon/app refuses to die when told to do so by the Workspace > Mangaer, which is not very insistent due to the possibility to save unsaved > work etc. Log into a back door (telnet, serial line + old Atari ST, ...) and > look what is still running, and if killing that program causes the computer to > shut itself down. Happy shooting! > 2) There was a rumour there is a preference setting which causes this > behaviour. > > -- > G.J. van Oldenborgh, > Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics > Leiden University > gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl > It MOST probably is the Preferences setting. The following default option provides for the restart of the computer at a date and/or time certain or relative to a specific event, i.e.,"Turn computer on: a)"After power off or failure" or b)"At specified time". If "a" is enabled as the default, the machine will attempt to power down but will not do so. In NS 3.3 the Preferences setting is shown representing a power switch - a circle containing a verticle line. Good luck. -- Dennis I. Gould DIG@Gould.COM NeXT Mail & MIME PGP Key available on request
From: deniseh@MCS.COM (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 27 Jul 1995 14:41:06 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <3v8q4i$ndj@Mars.mcs.com> References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they : out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? : I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, : I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. They're still in business. A good portion (if not all) of the company moved to Maui. Try e-mailing them at info@dancingbear.com. Denise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de> Message-ID: <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:20:16 +0100 Subject: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Has anybody else heard the rumor, that NeXT will be sold to Microsoft (as they need a weapon against Taligent)??? I guess this is not true (since Oracle will buy first; and Steve doesn't ever sell anyway! :-)! --- Greetings from .. Stefan .. Life has many different colors, but ------ REAL Computing is black! ***** (At least for the NeXT 3 yrs.) ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Huelf voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19 <---> fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92 stefan@a-gain.hanse.de ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! ) Heading off to Siggraph and Object World 95 - beginning of Aug. -- Will be back in on the 24th of Aug. -- Just in case anybody cares! - I dont have WYWO, yet! ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Boot NeXTstation into a Program Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:34:31 -0400 Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0k5zVL200iMa01NIE0@andrew.cmu.edu> I have a NeXTstation that I would like to have go immediately into the desktop after booting and start an application. I know this is possible if you have no password file (the "me" account) but I would like to preserve that security. In other words, I would like to the machine to start running my NeXTStep App without my having to interact with it from the keyboard. Also, when applications start up through the preferences in the Workspace manager, they don't have they don't get the focus... Workspace remains in the foreground. Is there a way to do this? Thanks! Jeremy Mereness FAST Laboratory GSIA
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 27 Jul 1995 21:20:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3v8vuk$k77@digifix.digifix.com> References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they > out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? > I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, > I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. They are still around, they moved to Hawaii! Dancing Bear Enterprises, Inc. Maui Research and Technology Center 590 Lipoa Parkway Kihei, Hawaii 96753 USA 808 875-2456 (voice) 808 874-3650 (fax) http://www.dancingbear.com/ <A ftp://ftp.maui.com/pub/dancingbear info@dancingbear.com
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 27 Jul 1995 21:36:28 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <3v90ss$gbb@news.iastate.edu> References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: > Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they > out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? > I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, > I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. > > Jim Beauchamp Jim, Dancing Bear moved to Hawaii. Try e-mailing Tim Griswold at tim@dancingbear.com -- Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine, Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted) Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Message-ID: <DCE761.5r6@trapac.com> Keywords: Dancing Bear Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:49:12 GMT In article <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> j-beauch@uiuc.edu writes: >Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they >out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? >I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, >I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. > >Jim Beauchamp > They moved some time ago to Hawaii. I don't have the number handy, but the 800 number should still work. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 27 Jul 1995 22:08:43 GMT Organization: A Big, Black Box. Message-ID: <3v92pc$c6p@nnrp2.primenet.com> References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? Are they out of business? Has anyone picked up the NeXT resale and supply business? I just tried their number, 303-479-9101, and it was disconnected. Actually, I haven't tried to contact them for over a year. > Jim Beauchamp Huh? I have a Dancingbear that's in Hawaii of all places... http://www.dancingbear.com -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printer Trouble Date: 27 Jul 1995 21:42:11 GMT Organization: Pixar Message-ID: <3v917j$4f1@pixar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My NeXT Printer is refusing to print anything and giving me the following errors in the Console window... np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun retries exhausted This may go on for days... then miraculously it will work ok for a day or so and then go back to this again... Anybody out there seen this before? Any info would be most appreciated. damir@pixar.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Message-ID: <espritDCE4Dq.62E@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:49:02 GMT Sender: esprit@netcom21.netcom.com Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> writes: >Has anybody else heard the rumor, that NeXT will be sold to >Microsoft (as they need a weapon against Taligent)??? > >I guess this is not true (since Oracle will buy first; and Steve >doesn't ever sell anyway! :-)! Sun owns a portion of NeXT and Scott McNealy is not a Microsoft fan. I doubt NeXT would be sold to Microsoft. -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Syquest "ZIP" Has anyone had any experience Date: 27 Jul 1995 19:59:29 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3v9991$c2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Syquest has released a better ZIP drive real access time and larger storage I am thinking of getting one for our Mac NeXT graphic dept Has anyone had any experience connecting one to a NEXT or with one period
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 386 mode under SoftPC? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:41:24 -0500 Organization: LakeHaven Distribution: world Message-ID: <9507272041.AA24528@mac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know if there will every be a version of SoftPC under NEXTSTEP which supports the 386 enhanced mode? The current version will not run some applications which require win32s, such as Scientific Workplace. Any information would be appreciated...Philip Philip McDunnough LakeHaven,{Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Date: 28 Jul 1995 07:16:17 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <3va2s1$hui@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain> <espritDCE4Dq.62E@netcom.com> >by Alan F. Perry, Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List > >Sun owns a portion of NeXT and Scott McNealy is not a Microsoft fan. I doubt NeXT would be sold to Microsoft. Actually, I believe that the Sun $10 million investment was non-equity... so they don't own any of NeXT.
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EDIT and "Utilities" question Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:55:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3vatpi$4qe@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3uus8a$8jf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3uv4b8$6mu@quilla.tezcat.com> <3v8jeu$npk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3vad85$pi7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: >James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: >: davids@primate (David Slotnick) writes: > >: >beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: >: >> there is no "Utilities" option on my Editor menu, even though Help? says >: >> it's there. This was a very useful feature for me. How come it's gone? >: >You're probably running in "User Mode". Try changing to "Developer Mode" with >: Thanks for the suggestion, but there is no "Developer Mode" under >We were talking about Edit.app, weren't we? >Axel Oops, sorry, ... yes it does work for me under Edit now. Thanks for straightening me out. However, I still think it qualifies for a 3.2 "Gotcha". Jim
From: esterbro@vt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can NEXTSTEP disks be repaired? (need help desparately) Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:35:00 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> Introduction: A rude installation package formatted the first 3% of a SCSI NEXTSTEP disk for DOS. Of course, the disk had important files. Of course it was not completely backed up because I wasn't expecting this. Can I patch the disk somehow? Here is the detailed account for those of you who are interested: I have a Pentium machine with 1 GB EIDE drive and 1 GB SCSI drive. The EIDE has a 150 MB partition with a minimal installation of NEXTSTEP 3.3. The other 874 MB was unallocated. The SCSI had a 1 GB partition with a complete installation of NEXTSTEP 3.3 and my important files. My goal was to install DOS 6.2 to the EIDE 874 MB partition. In my computer's setup I set the EIDE to be enabled. When I do this the EIDE becomes the C: drive and the SCSI becomes D: (as the SCSI ROM BIOS reports at start up). I inserted the DOS setup disk in drive A: which successfully booted. It kindly asked me if I wanted to use the unallocated portion of the disk for DOS. I said "YES" afterwhich it formatted it. No problem there. >>> Then without any prompt or even a warning it immediately <<< >>> began formatting drive D: for DOS! I stopped it after <<< >>> three percent. <<< Now when I boot the NEXTSTEP on EIDE it tries to mount the SCSI drive. I get the panel, "Disk is unreadable - [Ignore] [Initialize]" I choose ignore and the disk is mounted as a DOS disk containing no files. I know my data is still there on the disk. I need it. Can I repair the SCSI by copying the first 30 MB of my NEXTSTEP-EIDE over the SCSI disk and set the partition ID? At work I have a 512 MB SCSI disk, if this might make a better source image. How do i-nodes factor into this? I'm a programmer with NEXTSTEP and some PC-ROM experience. But I am a disk repair novice. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Please reply directly to esterbro@vt.edu. -Chuck Esterbrook Orca Computer, Inc.
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EDIT and "Utilities" question Date: 28 Jul 1995 10:13:25 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3vad85$pi7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <3uus8a$8jf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3uv4b8$6mu@quilla.tezcat.com> <3v8jeu$npk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : davids@primate (David Slotnick) writes: : >beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote: : >> Under NS 2.1 I was able to use "Utilities" to allow a Unix command to : >> process a selected portion of text. After upgrading to 3.2, I find that : >> there is no "Utilities" option on my Editor menu, even though Help? says : >> it's there. This was a very useful feature for me. How come it's gone? : > : >You're probably running in "User Mode". Try changing to "Developer Mode" with : >Info->Preferences and restarting the app. : > [..] : Thanks for the suggestion, but there is no "Developer Mode" under : Info->Preferences. Remember, WriteNow is not supplied with 3.2, but is a : carry-over from 2.1. We were talking about Edit.app, weren't we? Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Simon Chih-L Han <jessehcl@tpts1.seed.net.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 25 Jul 1995 10:53:47 GMT Organization: Vascular Bology Lab., N.D.M.C. Message-ID: <3v2ifr$itg@aladdin.iii.org.tw> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Maybe, you should try to get MailHelper 1.3 from ftp site.
From: Simon Chih-L Han <jessehcl@tpts1.seed.net.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT mail include signature file Date: 25 Jul 1995 10:54:03 GMT Organization: Vascular Bology Lab., N.D.M.C. Message-ID: <3v2igb$j1a@aladdin.iii.org.tw> References: <3um59a$koo@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Maybe, you should try to get MailHelper 1.3 from ftp site.
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Alexandra Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:32:14 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vasde$h62@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <3v866f$a4a@mustang.alleg.edu> cortesr@alleg.edu wrote: / Does anyone remember the site to get Alexandra version 0.8?? ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/ Alexandra.0.8b.NIHS.b.tar Alexandra.0.8b.README Alexandra.0.8b.s.tar.gz -- Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: looking for address for NetSurfer Inc. Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:34:42 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vasi2$h62@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <9507271538.AA06950@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Bob Kurhajetz (rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil) wrote: / Subject says it all -- looking for phone # or e-mail info. tbm@tci002: ping netsurfer.com PING netsurfer.com (168.121.129.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 168.121.129.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=760 ms 64 bytes from 168.121.129.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=720 ms ^C --- netsurfer.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 720/740/760 ms tbm@tci002: telnet netsurfer.com 25 Trying... Connected to netsurfer.com. Escape character is '^]'. verf220-netsurfer.com Sendmail 8.6.9/8.6.9 ready at Fri, 28 Jul 1995 10:12:17 -0400 220 ESMTP spoken here vrfy info 250 <info@netsurfer.com> info@netsurfer.com should work! -- Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: Geoff Hopson <gah@zoo.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Coding standard for Obj-c?? Date: 28 Jul 1995 17:19:53 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <3vb67p$79k@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a recommended coding standard for Objective-C code? Or do I follow the standards implied by the NEXTSTEP examples, the Simson/Mahoney Step One book etc? Regards, Geoff -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Geoff Hopson | E-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk Intelligence Software Systems | Tel: +44 1473 644380 Room G11 B67 | Fax: +44 1473 640468 BT Laboratories | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BT NEXTSTEP Users: http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah/nextstep/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: More "English lady" recordings Date: 28 Jul 1995 17:49:39 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <3vb7vj$848@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> If there is any demand for more .snd files in a well-spoken English female voice in the manner of "Your printer is out of paper" (which, I might add, is an Americanism a well-spoken English female is very unlikely to say anyway (try "Your paper tray is empty")), I can distribute them. I have found a suitable friend to say "New Mail" (for Mail.app), and "Build Failed" and "Build Complete" (for Project Builder) over and over again until she got them right. Any takers?
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:26:39 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vba4v$ria@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3v89ae$g7c@news.xmission.com> Win95 (and the DOS installers) replace the first level boot block with their own. The NeXT version of this is what prompts you with "Press n for NeXTSTEP or d for DOS". The Win95/DOS version just boots directly into DOS. After installing Win95 or DOS, you can restore the NeXT boot block and the "Press n for NeXTSTEP or d for DOS" prompt as follows: From DOS or Win95, run FDISK and set the NEXTSTEP partition to be active. Reboot into NEXTSTEP. Under NEXTSTEP, as root, use the disk program to rewrite the first level boot block. For IDE disks: disk -B0 /dev/rhd0h For SCSI disks: disk -B0 /dev/rsd0h Other fun tips... I currently run a two IDE drive system with WIn95 and NEXTSTEP on drive 0, and WinNT 3.51 on drive 1. I installed this by first loading NEXTSTEP, setting aside space for Win95 on drive 0. I then installed Win95 on the remaining drive 0 partition. When I installed WinNT on the second drive, the NT installer put down a DOS/NT multibooter on the Win95 partition. Finally, I set the NEXTSTEP partition to be active, booted NEXTSTEP, and restored the first level boot block. Now, when booting, I see the "Press n for NeXTSTEP or d for DOS" prompt first. Pressing n pops me into NEXTSTEP. Pressing d pops me into the DOS/NT multibooter, with options to launch DOS/Win95 or NT. This multibooter can be reconfigured from the WindowsNT control panel. Mike Paquette
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Date: 28 Jul 1995 14:26:46 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vba56$rid@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain> In article <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain>, Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> writes: >Has anybody else heard the rumor, that NeXT will be sold to >Microsoft (as they need a weapon against Taligent)??? Improbable. Extremely improbable. Not even with an atomic vector plotter and a really hot cup of tea would this happen. Mike Paquette
From: cjones@haakon (Carl Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT In Line? Date: 28 Jul 1995 20:34:23 GMT Organization: Wellesley College Message-ID: <3vbhkf$4vn@charlotte.wellesley.edu> Has anyone received a copy of the supposedly resurrected NIL? Carl cjones@wellesley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Syquest "ZIP" Has anyone had any experience Message-ID: <jpanicoDCFJE2.AM6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3v9991$c2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:10:50 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com McNeXT (mcnext@aol.com) wrote: : Syquest has released a better ZIP drive real access time and larger : storage I am thinking of getting one for our Mac NeXT graphic dept : Has anyone had any experience connecting one to a NEXT or with one period Are you saying that there is a second generation zip drive out already? That was very fast. -- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: jbn@mystery-train.msilink.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Whither went Dancing Bear? Date: 28 Jul 1995 22:31:52 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <3vbogo$npv@ill.msilink.com> References: <3v8j0e$mm5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 27 Jul 1995 17:39:26 GMT, James Beauchamp <beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to Dancing Bear Enterprises, Vail CO? I believe they're in Hawaii. Try http://www.dancingbear.com
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT In Line? Date: 28 Jul 1995 23:58:46 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <3vbtjm$jci@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3vbhkf$4vn@charlotte.wellesley.edu> Summary: They're in business In article <3vbhkf$4vn@charlotte.wellesley.edu>, Carl Jones <cjones@haakon> wrote: >Has anyone received a copy of the supposedly resurrected NIL? > >Carl > >cjones@wellesley.edu I talked to Erik Kraft (kraft@ensuing.com) recently and he says printed end of July start of August and distributed before Object World. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778 | (Albert Einstein) NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TCL script for inserting rtfd docs Date: 29 Jul 1995 01:08:45 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-e-16.usc.edu Message-ID: <3vc1mt$6a9@usc.edu> Would someone know how I can revise the following TCL script to be for rtfd file (with a gif in it)? Haven't had time yet to learn the scripting mechanism as I'm quite a novice. ============================================ # Return text of RTF signature file. # Get location for the signature file. set rtfSig [defaults read TickleServices RTFSignatureFile ~/.signature.rtf> ] if {[file exists $rtfSig]} { if {[file isdirectory $rtfSig]} { if {[file exists $rtfSig/TXT.rtf]} { # glob the signature to remove leading ~, because # the attachment directive won't allow ~. set rtfSig [glob $rtfSig] set sig [expandRTF [readfile $rtfSig/TXT.rtf] $rtfSig] pasteboard write $sig $NXRTFPboardType } else { alertpanel {Insert RTF Signature} "Unable to find TXT.rtf in `[file tail $rtfSig]' wrapper." } } else { pasteboard write [readfile $rtfSig] $NXRTFPboardType } } else { alertpanel {Insert RTF Signature} "Unable to find `$rtfSig'." } ==================================== Thanks in advance Matthew -- Matthew ====================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Show disorder to make them take a chance..." - Sun Tzu
From: klamerus@ix.netcom.com (Mark Klamerus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Any Doc Mgt, Workflow, or Workgroup S/W on Next??? Date: 29 Jul 1995 02:25:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vc66d$ji9@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Help, I'm trying to identify any document management, workflow, or other workgroup software available for Next clients and/or Next servers. I've got a client visit coming up very quickly here and would like to be able to offer them alternatives in the Next environment, but to date, I haven't found any. thanks very, very much, especially for any e-mail regards, Mark Klamerus 313-596-9488
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Date: 29 Jul 1995 03:42:47 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Message-ID: <3vcann$dhk@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain> <3vba56$rid@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <3vba56$rid@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Mpaque (mpaque@aol.com) wrote: > In article <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain>, Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> > writes: > >Has anybody else heard the rumor, that NeXT will be sold to > >Microsoft (as they need a weapon against Taligent)??? > Improbable. Extremely improbable. Not even with an atomic vector plotter > and a really hot cup of tea would this happen. Actually, NeXT will eventually become the property of Disney. 8-) -- lee
From: Josh Neal <neal@moa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More "English lady" recordings Date: 29 Jul 1995 03:32:44 GMT Organization: SONNET Networking - Modesto Sonora Stockton (800)50-ONLINE Message-ID: <3vca4s$jbm@sonnet1.sonnet.com> References: <3vb7vj$848@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) wrote: > If there is any demand for more .snd files in a well-spoken English female voice in the manner of "Your printer is out of paper" (which, I might add, is an Americanism a well-spoken English female is very unlikely to say anyway (try "Your paper tray is empty")), I can distribute them. I have found a suitable friend to say "New Mail" (for Mail.app), and "Build Failed" and "Build Complete" (for Project Builder) over and over again until she got them right. Any takers? I'd be interested in any recordings that you've got. That woman's voice adds a touch of class to my machine... - Josh -- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Joshua B. Neal | | | neal@moa.com (NeXTmail capable) | Fun with anagrams: | | joshua_neal@next.com (NeXTmail/MIME) | Computer Science | | josh.neal@ccc-infonet.edu (ASCII only) | ...becomes... | | NeXT Computer No. AAK0001587 | Coerce Inept Scum | ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Coding standard for Obj-c?? Followup-To: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 29 Jul 1995 03:44:25 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Message-ID: <3vcaqp$dhk@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <3vb67p$79k@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> In article <3vb67p$79k@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>, Geoff Hopson (gah@zoo.bt.co.uk) wrote: > Is there a recommended coding standard for Objective-C code? Sure. Objective C programs should all conform to the following: 1. Useful behavior. 2. No bugs. Sorry 8-) 8-) Couldn't resist.
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: .ps image ==> .gif in flying ? Date: 29 Jul 95 08:05:19 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jul29080519@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> I am using perl scripts to produce some postscript images which need to be accessed on-line. Considering windows3.1 and other platform users, I hope I could transform those .ps images into .gif's using shell programming. I have tried using ghostscript and ppmplu packsges to do gs: .ps -> .ppm -> .gif in sunos or other unix platform. Since postscript is the basic display environment of nextstep, I don't see why I should install ghostscript for nextstep. Is there any utility in nextstep I can use to trans .ps image to .gif? Although, I can use Create to make .gif from .ps, it is not in flying. Thanks, zhao
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Want to buy the *ultimate* flatbed scanner Date: 29 Jul 1995 15:44:05 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <3vdl05$1735@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - My wife and I want to invest in a good super-res flatbed scanner and am hoping to get some buying tips. It of course needs to have drivers for NEXT. There are a few combo copier/fax/color printer/scanner/ telephone/voice phone/coffee maker deals out there. Anyone know of a good deal on one of these that is supported on a NEXT black hardware. Flatbed is not essential but preferred. Send replies to warnerr@beethoven.cs. colostate.edu. Thanks in advance for the info. Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc References: <6gzqij4mqo.fsf@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu> <3u6tok$t7h@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> From: "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 95 21:19:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Should I buy NEXT-step ? Message-ID: <37730456@turbocat.snafu.de> Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Gary Longsine wrote in article <3u6tok$t7h@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> about Re: Should I buy NEXT-step ?: > arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson) (Arne Elofsson) wrote: > [munch] (...) > >Q2: What is the advantege over NEXT compared to Linus ? > > Linux is freeware. As such it is cheap, in terms of initial dollar outlay, but > expensive in terms of support costs (i.e. you sometimes have to debug programs > like ping, or telnetd yourself.) NeXTSTEP is expensive (in terms of initial You don't have to do that if you use Linux or NetBSD. All you may need is to build an own kernel. > >Q3: What should I think about when I bye hardware for NEXT. > > Very seriously consider getting a SparcStation from Sun, a Sparc clone, or a HP > PA-RISC machine to run NeXTSTEP on. It's much nicer than a PC. It's much expensiver. But if you do not care about box design: buy a clone! The following config works fine: NCR 53C810 PCI, Miro 22SD, ASUS Triton board, Intel Pentium-100, 32 MB. The workstations often even don't have the space for an second HD or an Tape. > > -- > ____/| | Gary W. Longsine > \ o.O| GPF! | UNIX Systems Analyst, PARANET > =(_)= CTLALTDEL! | <glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com> > U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | "I don't do Windows." > _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ekraft@netcom.com (Erik Kraft) Subject: Re: NeXT In Line? Message-ID: <ekraftDCHnB0.BJI@netcom.com> References: <3vbhkf$4vn@charlotte.wellesley.edu> <3vbtjm$jci@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 17:30:36 GMT Sender: ekraft@netcom15.netcom.com hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) wrote: >In article <3vbhkf$4vn@charlotte.wellesley.edu>, >Carl Jones <cjones@haakon> wrote: >>Has anyone received a copy of the supposedly resurrected NIL? > >I talked to Erik Kraft (kraft@ensuing.com) recently and he says printed end >of July start of August and distributed before Object World. > Actually, we will print on August 2 and ship shortly after that. They should hit mailboxes before ObjectWorld. And my e-mail address is erik@ensuing.com, not kraft. We are using Ensuing's mail until we can get nil.com forwarded to a new provider in Las Vegas, so if you want to be sure to reach me after this issue, just use ekraft@netcom.com. All mail from that account will be fowarded to me at my new nil.com address. If you want to check on your subscription, please use the address cbuffum@netcom.com or cyndi@ensuing.com. Thanks. -- erik kraft 3DO and NextStep Programmer ekraft@netcom.com [ NeXTMail and MIME okay ]
From: ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 29 Jul 1995 16:01:33 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> Dear NeXT Employees: I have heard, from a number of sources, that my posting of last Sunday ("NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02") has been broadly circulated inside NeXT in part and in full, and has been taken out of context to the point where my intentions have been misunderstood, and there is apparently a feeling of ill will. For the record, I am a supporter of NeXT and NEXTSTEP and have been since I worked at the University of Chicago and had my first machine in 1988. I have a company (1995 proj revenue $5 million) which is more than 60% dedicated to NEXTSTEP related projects. I personally have three NeXT computers in my home, and can't bear to use any other desktop computer. I want to see NeXT succeed and the terrific technology that NeXT has pioneered become widespread throught the computer industry. I do think that, as with all companies, NeXT has made mistakes. My company has made mistakes as well. As a business person, when I make a mistake I try to look it in the eye and accept it as mine. It isn't easy, but it is the only way to learn from those mistakes, and figure out how to move on and up. My posting last week was intended as positive input into an ongoing debate in C.S.N.A. which has largely been negative. I tried to point out the places where NeXT truly does have a market advantage, and to explain some of the reasons why you should do the things which I hope to heaven that you are going to do to survive and thrive in the coming marketplace. The computer industry is becoming less fun every day, with Microsoft taking all the toys for themselves and even intimidating the U.S. Justice department. NeXT's technology is a ray of sunshine in this otherwise bleak Microsoft-scape. I intend to continue devoting my efforts, and those of my company, to helping NeXT succeed. We will not succeed, however, until we learn how to be partners with one another. Steve - If you have a problem with my post, send me an email. When was the last time that you picked up the phone or sent an email to one of the largest companies dedicated to making you succeed? Everyone else at NeXT -- WRITE TO ME. I am not an unreasonable person. In fact, I tend toward the very reasonable. I am more than happy to spend any amount of time necessary anwering your questions or reading your complaints about my posting to C.S.N.A. There is no reason to privately complain, when you can take your complaint directly to me. Every single email that I received (and I received none from NeXT employees) was positive. To be sure, there were people who disagreed with me on various issues. Many people objected to the idea of pitching OpenStep. Some people write arguing that NeXT should promote a 3D Kit and a NEXTIME development kit (in my view, more diversions from the focus that NeXT desperately needs). But uniformly they felt that the posting was a positive contribution to the dialogue. If you did not feel that it was a positive contribution -- please write and tell me why. If you don't like my conclusions, and want to offer another analysis, I am more than happy to re-think, and re-write my views given additional information. yours sincerely, Ted Shelton -- <PRE> Ted Shelton, President IT Solutions, Inc. 500 West Madison, Suite 2210 Chicago, IL 60661 (312) 474-7700 </PRE>
From: corrigan@uhcl2.cl.uh.edu (CORRIGAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Monitor Color Calibration Needed Date: 29 Jul 1995 23:22 CDT Organization: University of Houston - Clear Lake Distribution: world Message-ID: <29JUL199523220524@uhcl2.cl.uh.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Subject : Are There Any Color Calibration Tools for NeXT Monitors? ----- Message Text ----- Desperately seeking color calibration tool for our NeXT monitor. Printer calibration would be nice too, but I'd be thrilled to have monitor colors even just a little more true to their CMYK %'s. Please respond online or by phone: Rick Corrigan: (713) 280-8635
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 15:24:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vgm8k$7vp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> NeXT AND Steve joke (oops jobs) should try to communicate with other humans outside of NeXT instead of with themselves, constantly and consistantly. This club attitude (which the market was assured gone from next) is for first graders (which they continue to prove they are) and rears it's head yet again. Perhaps if they would listen to ideas (other than there own) they wouldn't have destroyed the best computer company in the business and made all the classic dumb moves they did & still do. It is in fact due to this "club thing" & inability to communicate that has led and will continue to lead to the complete destruction of NeXT inc. Steve should step down and let someone who knows how to run a software business (not a novelty shop) run NeXT. He clearly does not have a clue and should be honest enough to admit it, If not to himself to his employees. Of all the positive things written on the net by advocates ( THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE PRODUCT AND THE PUBLIC BETTER THAN NEXT). You think they would listen or at the very least put thier ear to the ground. Take the input and do something positive with it. Like getting a clue about marketing If you feel the need to defend expressing your ideas which were good and LEGIT then I put to you NeXT and Steve joke has a lot to learn from you. They should issue a public apology (Fat chance). If they can't respect the fact you have an idea that doesn't aggre with theirs or Steve's. (Any sane thinking person would) Then you should do as NeXTworld article and many others did Burn every next computer you own SET IT ON FIRE (it's either this or burn more money) and get with a real software company that will pay the bills. It might not be neXTstep but it will soon be and more importantly the "Public" will purchase it for it's use (reality) not it's appeal (steve's fantasy) "kid clubs" are the road to nowhere and they will never evolve to anything more than a novelty shop. Everyone loves & supports NEXTSTEP it's a superior, well designed concept and the potential for real useful products is there. It was the best OS and Computer built on planet earth bar none. Too bad they really only wnated it for themselves and club members. By voicing opnions some hope that MAYBE next will listen to the content. That's why they are called advocates. It isn't NeXTstep that has the problem. It's NeXT Inc and Steve jobs that most people have the problem with. Their inabilty to comprehend and adhere to simple business pratices and corporate character principles. Elusive concepts such as marketing, communications, distribution, pricing, deployment, evangelism, promotion. Concepts that any first year software cadet knows. Hell chia pet, & desktop art is better at it than NeXT . Clubs are for insecure people who don't know any better and like the reassuring sound of thier own voice. They don't make mistakes just refocus. Don't give in to these guys they are losers, they couldn't sell water at an osasis. They will choke on their product until someone else does it like Apple or Taligent or even Micosoft then they will have the prestige they are after. It is clearly not the market and it is not the money. Keep expressing your ideas, NeXT is in sore need of swift kick in the rump, a strong laxative and a reality check
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: two sound cards in the same (Intel) system Date: 30 Jul 1995 20:34:23 GMT Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vgqcf$394@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Can you put two sound cards in the same Intel-based computer system simultaneously? I have an Intel system with the Microsoft Windows Sound System running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and I'd like to add a SoundBlaster 16 to my system without removing the Windows Sound System. In NEXTSTEP, I'd like to keep using the Windows Sound System, but when I boot to DOS/Windows, I will use the SoundBlaster. (Since more DOS/Windows stuff supports the SoundBlaster, but the NS3.2 SoundBlaster driver is more buggy than the Windows Sound System driver.) Is this possible hardware-wise? I.e., just plug each one into an ISA slot and it should work, right? With a single set of speakers, the speakers will have to be unplugged from one card and plugged into the other every time I reboot to switch operating systems, but that's okay. I haven't tried actually putting the SoundBlaster card into the computer yet. Is it possible software-wise? I've just ftp'ed the SoundBlaster16 driver for 3.2 from Next's ftp site and used configure to add it to the system's drivers. I had to resolve a DMA conflict but that was easy. I had a real nasty problem on the first attempt which rendered the computer unbootable (hung just before the login-panel but accepting remote tty logins). Took me a while to solve that. Finally got it back to the state with just the Windows Sound System. Removed that and THEN added the SoundBlaster. Booted fine. Then added the Windows Sound System back and booted fine again this time, with sound working through the Windows Sound System no problem. Still, I can't find any documentation on having 2 sound cards installed. Anyone done this? -Karl -- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/
From: terry@io.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 16:37:11 -0500 Organization: Illuminati Online Message-ID: <3vgu27$jkr@pentagon.io.com> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> <3vgm8k$7vp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <3vgm8k$7vp@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, McNeXT <mcnext@aol.com> wrote: >NeXT AND Steve joke (oops jobs) should try to communicate with other >humans outside of NeXT instead of with themselves, constantly and >consistantly. >This club attitude (which the market was assured gone from next) is for >first graders (which they continue to prove they are) and rears it's head >yet again. I do wish that ex-NeXT employees would take their personal vendettas elsewhere. What happened? Did you get canned for immature behaviour? If you've got a legitimate complaint, I have yet to find it in your posts. All I see is a bunch of bitterness and name calling. It might also help if you didn't hide behind the anonymity of your AOL account. How about putting your real name in posts? So who should be in charge of NeXT? You? If not, who? If you've really given this any thought, you'll have thought of a replacement for Steve. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 21:53:13 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vgv09$ai5@emerald.oz.net> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> In article <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) writes: > [ Explanation of his previous posting deleted ] Ted Shelton's IT Solutions has indeed been an important NS supporter and so I view his opinions as worth considering carefully. I responded to Ted privately adding my $0.01 as a small fish in the NS pond. I agreed with most of what Ted stated, but I disagreed with his opinion that OpenStep should be cut from NeXT's palette so that NeXT can concentrate on EOF/PDO and network applications in general. This may be to a selfish hope that NeXT will be able to pull off a killer OpenStep for Windows 95/NT implementation because, frankly, NeXT has done a terrible job of promoting NEXTSTEP as an OS. My employer is seriously considering abandoning NS because our customers, hospitals, tend to cut us from consideration for one reason only: NEXTSTEP. Their users love our NS app, but their IS departments don't know or understand what NS is and consider it a "Brand X" OS that they don't want to have to support. We end up having to try to sell NS in addition to our app, and we just haven't been able to succeed with what NeXT itself should be doing. Our competitors have inferior Windows-based apps, but they either win the bids or the hospitals decide to award the bid to no one in hopes that a Windows-based app with the functionality we offer eventually appears. Of course, the irony is that if it weren't for NS, we wouldn't have a killer app to offer. But this aspect isn't important to IS departments. If OpenStep for Windows is done well, we could have that Windows app that the hospitals require. But doing OpenStep for Windows well means more than making it superior technically; it must compete successfully in the brutal Windows development environment market. I have seen no evidence that NeXT knows how to do this, so I'm not confident that OpenStep for Windows will be anything more than what NS has always been: a niche player. I, too, tend to be idealistic and think that technical superiority ought to be all that's necessary to be successful. Unfortunately, technical superiority seems to have a low correlation with commercial success :-( As Microsoft has shown, marketing ability is by far the most important factor in success and NeXT has never shown much talent in this area. So I, too, would like for NeXT to concentrate on a few excellent products, but above all, develop a marketing department that knows how to market these products. Because without this capability, the list of NeXT's products is largely irrelevant. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Serial port performance Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 14:51:47 GMT Message-ID: <1995Jul29.145147.14737@cyantic.com> I am getting very poor performance from the serial ports on my Intel machine and NS3.3. From the line's behaviour, there seem to be flow control problems both with Kermit in interactive and download modes, and also with Transys PNI slip. There are long pauses in every transmission of over 10K. Sometimes the transfer will timeout. I have tried nearly every flow control setting on the Telebit modem to no avail. The only action that seems to help is to slow the DTE down to 9600 which is ok for interactive Kermit, but is no good for file transfers. I will be testing a Zyxel modem again in the near future, but I would like some help with the Telebit setup. Please respond by e-mail. Thanks -- -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 21:21:27 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vhb6n$ehl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3vgu27$jkr@pentagon.io.com> yeahhhhh right (I don't think so) How many people you know are still in charge after losing millions of dollars with a great product, way ahead of the market. is the market darling and could do no wrong ANYONE can do a better job EVEN Steve could ( if others wasn't inflating his ego so much that he could come down to earth) Sounds like you WORK at NeXT or a major Jobite in that case you were hired for your clear and unbiased opinion Steve messed up EVERYONE KNOWS IT even Steve This just further illustrates the nonsense that STILL goes on at NEXT which destroyed it in the first place
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 21:46:45 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vhcm5$f1d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3vgv09$ai5@emerald.oz.net> Realyy that is so suprising that you are experiencing this in the marketplace There are sooo many advocates you were tryin to convince that this does not happen NEXTstep has so many shipping apps and Steve and neXt is so suave they couldn't be xxxing up Is all us , We the customers are ignorant and incapable of thought. When we bring up these issues they reply we are etc etc This is what several of us have been saying (in so many threads) What does next intend to do differently? There is no evidence of they having Well guys I can't wait to read the replies to this purely fictional situation Terry, Paul, guys
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 18:59:22 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <3vhddq$80e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> <3vgv09$ai5@emerald.oz.net> >We end up having to try to sell NS in addition to our app, and we just >haven't been able to succeed with what NeXT itself should be doing. > > Our competitors have inferior Windows-based apps, but they either win >the bids or the hospitals decide to award the bid to no one in hopes that >a Windows-based app with the functionality we offer eventually appears. >Of course, the irony is that if it weren't for NS, we wouldn't have a >killer app to offer. But this aspect isn't important to IS departments. >If OpenStep for Windows is done well, we could have that Windows app that >the hospitals require. > > But doing OpenStep for Windows well means more than making it superior >technically; it must compete successfully in the brutal Windows >development environment market. I think this posting makes two very important points, and I agree with 1. The first, that you currently have to sell ns as well as your app, is abundently clear. The second, that ns for windows needs to compete with general windows dev apps, is wrong. I say that if ns for win (ns/win ?) is a great product, then it will mostly be used by next app vendors selling their stuff in the windows world.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 31 Jul 1995 02:47:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3vhg83$m3c@digifix.digifix.com> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> <3vgm8k$7vp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) wrote: [munch] > Keep expressing your ideas, NeXT is in sore need of swift kick in the > rump, a strong laxative and a reality check Perhaps, but at least Ted has the courtesy of expressing his opinions under his own name, and not hiding behind a pseudonym.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 31 Jul 1995 04:15:36 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3vhld8$nae@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 30 Jul 1995 21:01:58 -0700 Organization: Idiom Consulting Message-ID: <3vhkjm$1b0@idiom.com> References: <3vgu27$jkr@pentagon.io.com> <3vhb6n$ehl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> All kidding aside, I really don't believe this 'McNeXT' character is an ex-NeXT employee. I think we're being trolled. -jcr st benefit of the OpenStep initiative is that the NeXT developers' community no longer needs to worry about how NeXT perceives us. In just a few more months (well, maybe a year or so) we'll be able to buy OpenStep implementations from Sun and DEC, two Mature, Responsible companies that aren't in the business of competing with their ISV's. Really, if you've fallen out of NeXT's favor, it just doesn't matter anymore. Cultivate your contacts with Sun and DEC. Let NeXT go on their merry way, let them think that they're still on mount Olympus, and that they needn't listen to anyone outside of Redwood City. Forget them, Ted. They don't love you, and they never had any interest in the success of any of their supporters. And to the employees of NeXT: Run away! You can make more than NeXT pays you, and you can do it in an environment that won't burn you out! Fly! Be Free! -John Randolph
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More "English lady" recordings Date: 31 Jul 1995 10:16:29 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <3viaht$rcr@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <3vca4s$jbm@sonnet1.sonnet.com> Owing to popular demand, I have submitted the following sound files to ftp.orst.edu in the directory /pub/next/submissions: buildNO.snd "Build Failed" (for PB.app) buildOK.snd "Build Complete" (for PB.app) newmail.snd "New Mail" (for Mail.app) I am sorry that owing to pressure of work I cannot reply personally to those who contacted me for these files.
From: Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Will Soft PC ever run in 386 mode on a P5? Date: 31 Jul 1995 10:44:00 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vic5g$bd8@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone out there know? It seems odd that SoftPC won't run 386 software on a 486+. Actually, all I want to do is run Scientific Word and it won't work under the current pseudo enhanced mode. ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu, {NeXT mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Message-ID: <DCKvHu.2v6@localhost.com> Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <3vhkjm$1b0@idiom.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:20:17 GMT In article <3vhkjm$1b0@idiom.com> jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) writes: > All kidding aside, I really don't believe this 'McNeXT' character is an > ex-NeXT employee. Of course not. He's just another Kid On The Net crying out as loud as he can hoping to make himself heard. Probably an OS/2er or ex-Atari guy. Best to ignore him and the likes. He's already been in my killfile for some time. Volker --- This posting is (c) 1995 V. Herminghaus (vhs@langen.bull.de). Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft Corp. for $1 per line. Distribution without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. Send notices of violation to Postmaster@microsoft.com and vhs@langen.bull.de
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can NEXTSTEP disks be repaired? (need help desparately) Date: 31 Jul 1995 15:53:02 +0300 Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Sender: otto@tukki.cc.jyu.fi Message-ID: <OTTO.95Jul31155259@tukki.jyu.fi> References: <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> In-reply-to: esterbro@vt.edu's message of 28 Jul 1995 14:35:00 GMT In article <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> esterbro@vt.edu writes: > Introduction: A rude installation package formatted the first 3% of a SCSI > NEXTSTEP disk for DOS. Of course, the disk had important files. Of course > it was not completely backed up because I wasn't expecting this. Typically, what you need to do is run fsck (first without making changes, so to see that how much it can recover). Because the master block of the file system has with 99.9% probablility been overwritten, you would have to specify the -b option to specify an alternate master block (you were given a list of alternate master blocks when you first newfs'd the disk, you of course printed those out, didn't you?). On NeXTstep, block 16 is always an alternate master block, but I'd think it highly likely it was also overwritten (one way to find out the alternate master blocks would be to take an identical hard disk and partition/newfs it identically). Refer to "man fsck" for further details. If all else fails and the disk is really of great value, local hard disk dealers can probably direct you to data recovery companies who deal with this kind of stuff almost daily. PS. Which installer package was this, so I can avoid it? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */ /* Mail: Cygn.k.7 E 46/FIN-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N 25.44E */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can NEXTSTEP disks be repaired? (need help desparately) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:12:53 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950731151011.16349B-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> <OTTO.95Jul31155259@tukki.jyu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <OTTO.95Jul31155259@tukki.jyu.fi> On 31 Jul 1995, Otto J. Makela wrote: > > PS. Which installer package was this, so I can avoid it? I'll bet it was Devil's DOS! (BTW ever search for DOS in Documentation? Especially about fsck? Some nice thins about the 'programming company of the north' are told there ;) ) Regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu (Ben E. Cline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT will be sold to Microsoft? Date: 31 Jul 1995 13:44:42 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <3vimoa$kdj@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <3vcann$dhk@hpscit.sc.hp.com> In article <3vcann$dhk@hpscit.sc.hp.com> sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) writes: > In article <3vba56$rid@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Mpaque (mpaque@aol.com) wrote: > > In article <m0sbNEs-000btOC@a-gain>, Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> > > writes: > > > >Has anybody else heard the rumor, that NeXT will be sold to > > >Microsoft (as they need a weapon against Taligent)??? > > > Improbable. Extremely improbable. Not even with an atomic vector plotter > > and a really hot cup of tea would this happen. > > Actually, NeXT will eventually become the property of Disney. 8-) > > -- > lee That explains something. I've often wondered if NeXT wasn't some kind of Mickey Mouse organization.......:-). Benjy -- Benjy Cline, AC4XO, Ph.D. Virginia Tech Computing Center benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu http://benjy.cc.vt.edu:1951/~benjy/
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 31 Jul 1995 16:45:58 GMT Organization: BT Labs Message-ID: <3vj1c6$1ar@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> References: <3v89ae$g7c@news.xmission.com> <3vba4v$ria@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mpaque@aol.com Thanks to Holger Hoffstaette and Mike Paquette for their hints. I spent the week-end (over 25 hours) getting the installation going. I did not have anything under NeXTstep and all my Windows 3.11 files are backup on Maxoptic 1.3Gb cartridges. I re-partitioned my hard disk using NeXTStep splitting it 100Mb for DOS (worried about not getting my voice/fax/modem working), 450Mb for NT and 473Mb (?) for NeXTStep. I installed NS. Re-booted with a DOS floppy, formatted drive C: and installed DOS and SCSI drivers to get to the CD-ROM and Maxoptic cartridge. I used DOS to install NT3.51 from the CD-ROM by copying over the files to C: and installed NT. Later I tried it with three boot floppies. I used FAT - hoping that Nextstep would see the drive. NT could see C: and the Maxoptics 1.2G cartridge, but I later found that it could not read the 1.3Gb DOS cartridge although it will format one and use it. The NT formatted 1.3G cartridge cannot be read by DOS. So I cannot read my programs and files under NT. NT complained about some files not being written to the hard disk correctly, but installed. I had lost the NS boot, but setting the NS partition to active allowed me to boot to NS, but did not give me a boot option to DOS. So I re-installed NS. So I can use the NS boot option to boot to DOS, which in turn gives me the option of NT3.1 or DOS. NS will not read the NT FAT directory or 1.3Gb DOS cartridges, but can read the DOS and 1.2Gb DOS cartridges. On first installation I got a FAX option, but following a GPF on the Fax software I re-installed and now cannot get the fax t work or find an option to add a fax to the system configuration. Holger says VFAT works from NS. Does this mean that you can access the NT parttion from NS? Is VFAT different to FAT? It looks as if I can get most of what I want to work. This is a trail run for installing on a bigger hard disk (9Gb). It may be better to have a smaller boot hard disk and separate drives (4G) for NS And NT. Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Win95/NT3.51 disk partitions with NS3.3? Date: 31 Jul 1995 16:46:07 GMT Organization: BT Labs Message-ID: <3vj1cf$1ar@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> References: <3v89ae$g7c@news.xmission.com> <3vba4v$ria@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Holger Hoffstaette and Mike Paquette for their hints. I spent the week-end (over 25 hours) getting the installation going. I did not have anything under NeXTstep and all my Windows 3.11 files are backup on Maxoptic 1.3Gb cartridges. I re-partitioned my hard disk using NeXTStep splitting it 100Mb for DOS (worried about not getting my voice/fax/modem working), 450Mb for NT and 473Mb (?) for NeXTStep. I installed NS. Re-booted with a DOS floppy, formatted drive C: and installed DOS and SCSI drivers to get to the CD-ROM and Maxoptic cartridge. I used DOS to install NT3.51 from the CD-ROM by copying over the files to C: and installed NT. Later I tried it with three boot floppies. I used FAT - hoping that Nextstep would see the drive. NT could see C: and the Maxoptics 1.2G cartridge, but I later found that it could not read the 1.3Gb DOS cartridge although it will format one and use it. The NT formatted 1.3G cartridge cannot be read by DOS. So I cannot read my programs and files under NT. NT complained about some files not being written to the hard disk correctly, but installed. I had lost the NS boot, but setting the NS partition to active allowed me to boot to NS, but did not give me a boot option to DOS. So I re-installed NS. So I can use the NS boot option to boot to DOS, which in turn gives me the option of NT3.1 or DOS. NS will not read the NT FAT directory or 1.3Gb DOS cartridges, but can read the DOS and 1.2Gb DOS cartridges. On first installation I got a FAX option, but following a GPF on the Fax software I re-installed and now cannot get the fax t work or find an option to add a fax to the system configuration. Holger says VFAT works from NS. Does this mean that you can access the NT parttion from NS? Is VFAT different to FAT? It looks as if I can get most of what I want to work. This is a trail run for installing on a bigger hard disk (9Gb). It may be better to have a smaller boot hard disk and separate drives (4G) for NS And NT. Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: tschv@info.isbiel.ch (Valery Tschopp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.mach Subject: Finding tasks (processes) name, disks name ... Date: 31 Jul 1995 13:37:32 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vimas$1fu@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Keywords: processes tasks Hi, Does anybody know how to find the list of names (not tid or pid) of processes running on a system. We are looking for the name of all tasks, like 'ps' does, but in Objectve-C or C code for NEXTSTEP 3.3 on intel computer. We know how to obtain the task id list with the function processor_set_tasks(), but this funtion just return an array of task_t and we don't know what the task's name is... So if anyone could help us or give us advisory ... Thanks in advance Valery T. & Yvan B.
From: Chris Gomoiu <atr@elronet.co.il> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,ba.market.computers Subject: WANTED NeXT floppy drive Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:31:13 est Organization: Elron Adar Message-ID: <3vjba6$2n3@elron2.elron.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm looking for the original NeXT internal floppy drive, the SONY MPX-111N for my 25 MHz 68040 cube or maybe for an external SCSI one (I was told it should do the work but I'm not sure, any advice ?) wich should help me to install NS 3.2. from the CD-ROM as I have an old ROM (ver. 2.6). The cube was bought without the floppy drive and no hard disk a year ago and had no luck 'till now. Best regards and thanks, Chris e-mail: atr@elronet.co.il
From: naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 1 Aug 1995 01:25:31 GMT Organization: via FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet Services Message-ID: <3vjvqb$8em@nn.fast.net> References: <3vgu27$jkr@pentagon.io.com> <3vhb6n$ehl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3vhkjm$1b0@idiom.com> jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > All kidding aside, I really don't believe this 'McNeXT' character is an > ex-NeXT employee. I think we're being trolled. I think you nailed that one. I was suspecting the same myself when I saw some of his queries in the other c.s.n groups. I can't access his postings anymore for verification, but, as I remember, it was some REALLY basic stuff he was after, info that anyone who's spent >2 hrs with NS would know. Naj.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Serial port performance In-Reply-To: mark@cyantic.com's message of Sat, 29 Jul 1995 14:51:47 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Jul31223746@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1995Jul29.145147.14737@cyantic.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 02:37:46 GMT Have you installed the latest ISASerialPort/PortServer driver from NeXTanswers or the Mux driver? Are you using hardware flow control? Have you disabled software flow control? Have you adjusted the buffer sizes in kermit? Have you tried kermit 5A (190)? Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088 In article <1995Jul29.145147.14737@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: I am getting very poor performance from the serial ports on my Intel machine and NS3.3. From the line's behaviour, there seem to be flow control problems both with Kermit in interactive and download modes, and also with Transys PNI slip. There are long pauses in every transmission of over 10K. Sometimes the transfer will timeout. I have tried nearly every flow control setting on the Telebit modem to no avail. The only action that seems to help is to slow the DTE down to 9600 which is ok for interactive Kermit, but is no good for file transfers. I will be testing a Zyxel modem again in the near future, but I would like some help with the Telebit setup. Please respond by e-mail. Thanks -- -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: nextjet@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: THIS IS ONLY A TEST DON'T READ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 00:37:37 +500 Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (800)IDS-1680 Message-ID: <3vkb4d$7ld@paperboy.ids.net> this is only a test thank you
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: Alexandra Message-ID: <1995Jul31.093707.718@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: news@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <3v866f$a4a@mustang.alleg.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:37:07 GMT cortesr@alleg.edu wrote: > Hello! > Does anyone remember the site to get Alexandra version 0.8?? Try ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/news/Alexandra.0.8b.s.tar.gz Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: jbn@mystery-train.msilink.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:14:45 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> References: <3vdm0t$f4j@www.its.com> <3vgv09$ai5@emerald.oz.net> Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote: > But doing OpenStep for Windows well means more than making it superior > technically; it must compete successfully in the brutal Windows > development environment market. I have seen no evidence that NeXT knows > how to do this, so I'm not confident that OpenStep for Windows will be > anything more than what NS has always been: a niche player. I'm confident that OpenStep on Windows 95 will not do well at all. Say what you will about NS' goal catering to the custom app crowd, but Windows95 is end-user & shrinkwrap software territory; precisely what NS never became (for whatever reason). I think the combination of NeXT's lack of advertising and experience in catering to the mass public will be their undoing for OpenStep/95. I'm also not convinced that most NS shrinkwrap apps are ready to compete against what will come out for Windows95 and the added cost of the OpenStep/95 library will only make matters worse (please spare me the 'But NeXT has to make some money' rebuttal--if they don't get into the ultra-cheap initial price game with OpenStep/95, I doubt they'll survive). I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason OpenStep/95 is coming out is because NeXT wants to make OpenStep apps 95-sticker-compliant, and making apps that run on both 95 and NT is one of the criteria to get a sticker. However I think there's some potential for OpenStep/Sun or OpenStep/HP, mainly because I'm not as familiar with their native application offerings. Those systems are not what I'd recommend for running common end-user tasks and shrinkwrap software, but OpenStep might have something really great to offer those users. Why not go for continuing the custom-app development stuff there?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nlee@s6.math.umn.edu (Namyong Lee) Subject: Windows95 and NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <nlee.807266932@s6.math.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 08:48:52 GMT After installing Windows95 succesfully(?) I lost the choice of booting either NeXTSTEP or Windows. (It removed the boot manager.) Before upgrading Windows 95, it boots NeXTSTEP as a default. Is there any way to recover the situation without reinstalling NeXTSTEP? Is there anyway to make a boot floppy? Any help will be appreciated.
From: im_wchaa@uxmail.ust.hk (Wong Cheuk Hang Calvin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can't install NSI 3.3 Date: 30 Jul 1995 16:03:52 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <3vgah8$dkm@news.ust.hk> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.bugs ] [ Author was Wong Cheuk Hang Calvin ] [ Posted on 30 Jul 1995 16:02:58 GMT ] Thanks to : -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire ... and ... Philip McDunnough LakeHaven , {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu, {NeXT Mail Preferred} -- The problem is due to the NeXT EIDE/ATAPI 3.31 driver with my 516M harddisk, after using a SCSI cdrom and using the old " IDE driver > 504M 3.30 ", everything ( almost, because i can only access 472M ) is okay. -- Calvin -- -- .. D .......................zz.......Zzz...Zzzz.................zz.. . | O Wong Cheuk Hang Calvin calvin@dmc044.ust.hk . . +-|- Information & Systems Management im_wchaa@stu.ust.hk . . |/ \ Hong Kong Univ of Sci & Tech http://dmc044.ust.hk z .........Zzz............Zzzzz..................Zzz............zz........
From: mittal@ctr-next11.Stanford.EDU (Rajat Mittal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: browser for the NeXT Date: 1 Aug 1995 17:47:28 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3vlpbg$cjv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hi: Are there any browsers available for the NexT machines? If so, are they in public domain and where can one get them from? Thanks Rajat Mittal
From: ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Date: 1 Aug 1995 19:06:56 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> Dear All: I have a favor to ask of you as a community. I have been trying to communicate positively to NeXT regarding their future as a software company. Some of you read my posting a little over one week ago titled: "NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02" In that article, I tried to rationally analyze the state of the computer marketplace, NeXT's position in it, and what NeXT can do, in my humble opinion, to succeed as a software company today. Many of you have written to me (thank you!) to discuss specific points, and to thank me for my posting. A number of people involved in the US West project wrote to let me know it is doing just fine (GREAT!) and a number of you wrote to explain why you disagree with me about pitching OpenStep. More on this in another post. Another set of people, all sales and marketing people at NeXT, are very concerned that I posted "a very negative" article to the net. I would appreciate your input on this matter. I don't feel that I was being "very negative." In fact, other than one comment about Steve Jobs, I think my attempt at thinking through the issues was calm, factual, and contributed toward improving the level of conversation about these issues. But I could be wrong, and am willing to admit that I am. But I'd like your input! For those of you that have already written to me, I won't violate your privacy by sharing any of your comments with others, but I would appreciate it if you would send them again, to the following list of people: ted_shelton@its.com, John_Landwehr@NeXT.COM, stuart_kerr@NeXT.COM, katherine_singson@NeXT.COM, denise_schneider@NeXT.COM I'd like to hear from you either way -- whether you think I made a positive contribution, or a negative contribution. For the record -- I still love NEXTSTEP, and continue to use it both at home and at work. My company continues to sell and promote NEXTSTEP. I still have an enormous amount of respect for Steve Jobs and for everyone at NeXT, and I want to see them succeed. I am in shock that they are so angry about my post, and I am trying to understand whether I am not seeing something, or whether they are over-reacting. thanks! Ted Shelton -- Ted Shelton, President IT Solutions, Inc. NeXT Object Channel Member NeXT Registered Developer Reseller of Athena Design Products, Lighthouse Design Products, and numerous other third parties Publisher of WebPages, WorldClock, Emissary, CrashCatcher Major Sponsor of StepWise ..
From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Public Domain PPP Date: 1 Aug 1995 19:04:33 GMT Organization: Pencom Software Message-ID: <3vlts1$bio@digdug.pencom.com> Hi, Is there a public domain PPP implementation for NEXTSTEP? I'm already aware of the commercial ppp products. Thanks, Ricardo J. Parada
From: dtam@cs.ubc.ca (Dominic Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: UNIX mail <-> NeXT mail Date: 1 Aug 1995 13:55:24 -0700 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Hi, do you know how to convert the mailboxes of UNIX to NeXT, and the other way around ? Thanks in advance. Dominic
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Date: 1 Aug 1995 14:32:38 -0700 Organization: Idiom Consulting Message-ID: <3vm6hm$75p@idiom.com> References: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> AARGH! Ted, for crying out loud, remember this: YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER! If NeXT isn't happy with you, it's too damn bad for them. It's their job to satisfy you, not the other way around. Yell at them! Tell them to get their act together, or you'll take your business to DEC or Sun. The NeXT community no longer needs to worry about pleasing NeXT. You'll be so much happier when you quit trying to ingratiate yourself with a company that holds the rest of the world in utter contempt. You don't matter to NeXT, the rest of the ISV's don't matter to NeXT, their third party consultants don't matter to them, and its about time for the rest of us to realize that NeXT is not the center of the universe. If steve snubs you, snub him back. -John Randolph
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 2 Aug 1995 00:10:51 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vmfqc$3s4@emerald.oz.net> References: <3vhddq$80e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> In article <3vhddq$80e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: > The second, that ns for windows needs to compete > with general windows dev apps, is wrong. I say that if ns for win > (ns/win ?) is a great product, then it will mostly be used by next > app vendors selling their stuff in the windows world. > Why do you feel this way? OpenStep could be considered a very interesting alternative to other Windows development environments if NeXT markets it well and doesn't charge an arm and a leg for the user and developer versions. If it's not, few copies will sell because there are few NS developers. I just wish NeXT would clarify to the world what they expect OpenStep for Windows to be. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 1 Aug 1995 21:43:22 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vml7q$6h@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3vhcm5$f1d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <3vhcm5$f1d@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) writes: [munch] To quote the famous philosopher, Stimpson J. Cat: "Hee, heee, hee.... FUNNY!" Mike Paquette (Ooooh! a Real Name!)
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Date: 1 Aug 1995 22:08:34 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> >I'm confident that OpenStep on Windows 95 will not do well at all. Say what >you will about NS' goal catering to the custom app crowd, but Windows95 is >end-user & shrinkwrap software territory; precisely what NS never became >(for whatever reason). I think the combination of NeXT's lack of >advertising and experience in catering to the mass public will be their >undoing for OpenStep/95. I'm also not convinced that most NS shrinkwrap >apps are ready to compete against what will come out for Windows95 and the >added cost of the OpenStep/95 library will only make matters worse (please >spare me the 'But NeXT has to make some money' rebuttal--if they don't get >into the ultra-cheap initial price game with OpenStep/95, I doubt they'll >survive). I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason OpenStep/95 is coming >out is because NeXT wants to make OpenStep apps 95-sticker-compliant, and >making apps that run on both 95 and NT is one of the criteria to get a >sticker. I completly agree (some thing I have been posting forever but being accused of everything else) still the question remains WHAT WILL NEXT DO DIFFERENTLY with openstep (that it didn't do when it had all the cards in it's hand) NeXT can not reasonably expect to compete in the Win95 market. If so what is the logic to such a course? An alternative OS, an "Office" suite of applications (with Nextstep apps built to work together you'd think this would be a walk in the park), a Marketing blitz, a new corporate image, what? The fundemental flaws at the company NEXT and it's corporate culture which brought about the demise of it's brilliant products in a captive market STILL exist to this day and are even hotly defended. If you couldn't keep the last group of customers are you expecting to get and keep new ones? Win95 consumers don't have to take NeXT's abuse there is someone write down the block with better manners and a nicer shop. We are back to the same issues WHERE is the Vision for NEXTstep. WHAT will NeXT do differently this time around HOW does it intend to accomplish this fantastic feat WHEN can we expect the corporate culture of NEXT to change (Dramatically and in such a way that the concept of keeping the customer informed, serviced & satisified actually sink's in. WHY is Nextstep not known outside of redwood city
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 19:09:10 -0700 Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.950801190608.15877A-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> References: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> <3vm6hm$75p@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: alan In-Reply-To: <3vm6hm$75p@idiom.com> I've only been saying this for the past 6 or so years. Who knows, perhaps if I had gotten support back then, NeXT wouldn't have ended up as the miserable failure it has become. Yet the unreality factor continues; people still insist that NeXT is a "success". On 1 Aug 1995, John C. Randolph wrote: > AARGH! > > > Ted, for crying out loud, remember this: YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER! > > If NeXT isn't happy with you, it's too damn bad for them. It's > their job to satisfy you, not the other way around. > > Yell at them! Tell them to get their act together, or you'll > take your business to DEC or Sun. The NeXT community no longer > needs to worry about pleasing NeXT. You'll be so much happier > when you quit trying to ingratiate yourself with a company that > holds the rest of the world in utter contempt. > > You don't matter to NeXT, the rest of the ISV's don't matter to > NeXT, their third party consultants don't matter to them, and its > about time for the rest of us to realize that NeXT is not the > center of the universe. > > If steve snubs you, snub him back. > > -John Randolph > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
From: Howard Ship Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Controlling services search path? Date: 1 Aug 1995 15:22:10 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: us Message-ID: <3vlgr2$7td@transfer.stratus.com> How can I control what dirs are searched for services? In my environment, the sysadmin has /LocalLibrary NFS mounted from a single central server. I have a version of OmniImageFilter in ~/Library/Services and there is a different version in /LocalLibrary/Services. There seems to be some conflict between them ... the filter can't handle jpeg files if the extension if 'JPG', which is a bug only in the older version of the service. I'm trying to get my SysAdmin to install the latest and greatest, but at the same time, I would like to take care of the problem. Is there a default or environment variable I can modify? -- Today, THREE WINOS from DETROIT sold me a framed photo of TAB HUNTER before his MAKEOVER! Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750 (4sale) `88 FZR1000 (Zed) "I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to NeXT Employees Date: 1 Aug 1995 20:54:09 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <3vmst1$7ci@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <3vhddq$80e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <3vmfqc$3s4@emerald.oz.net> In article <3vmfqc$3s4@emerald.oz.net>, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote: >In article <3vhddq$80e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU >(Nick Kline) writes: >> The second, that ns for windows needs to compete >> with general windows dev apps, is wrong. I say that if ns for win >> (ns/win ?) is a great product, then it will mostly be used by next >> app vendors selling their stuff in the windows world. >> > Why do you feel this way? OpenStep could be considered a very >interesting alternative to other Windows development environments if NeXT >markets it well and doesn't charge an arm and a leg for the user and >developer versions. If it's not, few copies will sell because there are >few NS developers. I just wish NeXT would clarify to the world what they >expect OpenStep for Windows to be. I think that ns/win will be expensive. It just has to be. They must have ported dps, not reimplemented it. And they have never been that cheap. I'd expect a minimum of $20/copy licensing fee for each copy of an application. I'd expect a ns/3.3 like development environment for ns/win to be the same price, $5000, as it is for other hardware. I expect few copies to sell of a (mythical?) development env running on win/nt or whatever because it will be so expensive. I expect there to be a per app charge of at least $20 (because every app must come with dps, right?). There are two ways I see that they can sell their apps to run on win/nt (and or win/95, no need for there to be a difference). They can either charge a big fee to get the next "user-environement for windows/9x" and all apps that run on it need no further license, or they can just charge per app. Why would next sell the "user-env for win/9x" that much cheaper than ns/user costs now? The only thing it would be missing would the unix, and how much can that cost? Not much. On the other hand, if they did sell the "user env for win/9x" then they really could charge nothing for running apps. -nick
From: ascarsy@cis.uni-muenchen.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Booting NextStep from Drive D: (Intel) Date: 2 Aug 1995 09:48:38 GMT Organization: privat Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vnhlm$796@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: Booting, Secondary Drive Hello there, I'm pretty new to the Nextstep community, so if this question has already been answered then please forgive me. I have an 486DX/50 and a 500MB IDE disk. I bought a 2GB SCSI disk to install Nextstep on. Installing Nextstep works fine, since the system boots from floppies but when I reboot from disks, the system boots from drive C: (of course) which is unfortunately the IDE drive. On the IDE there's DOS and OS/2 installed, so I added the Nextstep partition to the menu of the OS/2-bootmanager. But when I tried to boot Nextstep from the bootmanager it just says "Nextstep 3.3.3.8" and then stops. So in order to boot Nextstep I have to remove the IDE drive from the system BIOS. Then the SCSI drive is C: and Nextstep boots fine. Is there any possibilty to install the Nextstep bootmanager on a different disk (in this case the IDE drive)? Or is there any other solution to this problem? thanx in advance --------guido (Ascarsy)
From: <todd@nwlink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Date: 2 Aug 1995 13:20:22 GMT Organization: Northwest Link Message-ID: <3vnu2m$36b@alaska.nwlink.com> References: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) wrote: > Dear All: > I have a favor to ask of you as a community. I have been trying to > communicate positively to NeXT regarding their future as a software > company. Some of you read my posting a little over one week ago titled: > "NeXT's Vision for their future -- another $.02" Nice Reality Post! > In that article, I tried to rationally analyze the state of the computer > marketplace, NeXT's position in it, and what NeXT can do, in my humble > opinion, to succeed as a software company today. This is an opinion group, and you gave your opinion. Thank GOD you did! And IMHO your points were clear and accurate. [ OS Doesn't Matter Since I Can't Buy It At Fry's ] > Another set of people, all sales and marketing people at NeXT, are very > concerned that I posted "a very negative" article to the net. I would > appreciate your input on this matter. I don't feel that I was being "very > negative." In fact, other than one comment about Steve Jobs, I think my > attempt at thinking through the issues was calm, factual, and contributed > toward improving the level of conversation about these issues. Your thoughts were calculated, calm and factual. Something NeXT should consider doing more often. The SRDF (Steve Reality Distortion Field) is tried and true. NeXT has a trickle down theory in practice. It seems to be working well in Redwood City. > But I could be wrong, and am willing to admit that I am. But I'd like > your input! For those of you that have already written to me, I won't > violate your privacy by sharing any of your comments with others, but I > would appreciate it if you would send them again, to the following list of > people: You are not wrong. Send my letter to these folks, but seems they read the group. Folks, take a look. Listen to the people who have been around a while. This market was effectively dead 3 years ago (compared to a real marked like windoze or MOSs) when the 3rd party development market was crushed by another SRDF hip-gyration. [ addresses clipped for brevity ] > I'd like to hear from you either way -- whether you think I made a > positive contribution, or a negative contribution. You be hearin' from me. > For the record -- I still love NEXTSTEP, and continue to use it both at > home and at work. My company continues to sell and promote NEXTSTEP. I > still have an enormous amount of respect for Steve Jobs and for everyone > at NeXT, and I want to see them succeed. I am in shock that they are so > angry about my post, and I am trying to understand whether I am not seeing > something, or whether they are over-reacting. I still enjoy using NS. Don't like developing for it much these days. I have to say that this letter of yours is concerning to me Ted. You seem so concerned about a company which is small, weak and meak. If you believe in what you posted, stick with it and don't bother worrying whether NeXT gives a crap or not. The bottom line for me here is this. Your post had content, it had facts and it had first person. If NeXT, its partners or the community can't swallow a reality pill, too bad. > thanks! Your welcome > Ted Shelton Todd Nathan > -- > Ted Shelton, President > IT Solutions, Inc. > NeXT Object Channel Member > NeXT Registered Developer > Reseller of Athena Design Products, Lighthouse Design Products, and > numerous other third parties > Publisher of WebPages, WorldClock, Emissary, CrashCatcher > Major Sponsor of StepWise > ..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: weiyao@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au Subject: Looking for NeXTSTEP user group in Australia Message-ID: <DCotHL.M2t@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:27:20 GMT Organization: Global Infolinks Internet Server, Ipswich Qld Australia look for NeXTSTEP user group in Australia... thanks!
From: mccollam@Arizona.EDU (Donald E McCollam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/I+NT dual boot? Date: 2 Aug 1995 16:02:02 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <3vo7hq$k1q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Hi. I've got a dual boot NS/I + DOS/Windows system. Has anyone ever put together a dual boot NS/I + Windows NT (server or workstation) combination? (BTW, I'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is have separate systems on separate drives and just switch device numbers. Of course, there'd be a third drive for file transfers between the two systems. This basically is my system now, except I use the third drive as the dual partitioned boot device so I don't have to switch device numbers. However, the dual boot drive idea has some dangers when it comes to system upgrages as some (including myself) have found out. Those darn boot sectors ... etc.) Don
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 9GB drives for NeXT??? Date: 2 Aug 1995 16:03:57 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vo7ld$e8@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: speed, reliability, noise Hi, I remember seeing several different remarks on the different 9GB drives, and how they worked with black NeXT equipment, but I didn t save any since I didn t think I would ever get around to get such a beast..... but now I have to decide which one to take, and currently I m looking at the Seagate Elite ST-410800N and the Micropolis 1991 (or the Wide SCSI version of either). both are 9GB, both runs at 5400rpm, both has 12ms access, but the Seagate has a larger cache, 1MB versus 512KB. So, which should I choose, has anyone any experience with any of these drives on black hardware??? I hear all the time that the Micropolis drives are very quite, is that the case for these big guys as well??? What in general are thought about the 9GB drives, as far as speed, reliability, noise, access time, when compared to smaller drives (2-4GB)??? Any info really appreciated! Best regards Michael
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 9GB drives for NeXT??? Date: 2 Aug 1995 16:04:09 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vo7lp$eg@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: speed, reliability, noise Hi, I remember seeing several different remarks on the different 9GB drives, and how they worked with black NeXT equipment, but I didn t save any since I didn t think I would ever get around to get such a beast..... but now I have to decide which one to take, and currently I m looking at the Seagate Elite ST-410800N and the Micropolis 1991 (or the Wide SCSI version of either). both are 9GB, both runs at 5400rpm, both has 12ms access, but the Seagate has a larger cache, 1MB versus 512KB. So, which should I choose, has anyone any experience with any of these drives on black hardware??? I hear all the time that the Micropolis drives are very quite, is that the case for these big guys as well??? What in general are thought about the 9GB drives, as far as speed, reliability, noise, access time, when compared to smaller drives (2-4GB)??? Any info really appreciated! Best regards Michael
From: pisul_cj@cowley.uwlax.edu (Charles Pisula S92) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD-ROM's for NeXT Date: 2 Aug 1995 20:54:47 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <3voomn$3je@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Hi Everyone, I have just purchase a machine and have installed NEXTSTEP on it. I had numerous hurdles to jump through in order to get the installation to work though. The main hurdle was making a CD-ROM work with my sytem. I finally had to put my hard drive on to someone elses machine in order to install. My question is sort of a poll I guess. I am curious what others are using, and hoping that this information will help me. I am extremely interested in hearing what CD-ROM's others have got to work on there system. I would like to see peoples system config and as well as CD-ROM configs. My system: DELL p100 - pipeline burst cache. 2 IDE slots on motherboard. EIDE 1.08 GB harddrive. 32 MB RAM 128 bit #9 Video Card SoundBlaster16-Value Sound Card. Zoom 28.8 V.34 Modem I have tried: Adaptec 1542B / NeXT 1X CD-ROM. - I could get the controller to work on a p90 and p100 w/o the pipeline burst cache, but not on my machine (I get timeouts from the card BIOS). SONY CD-ROM CDU76E-S (ATAPI) - For some reason, the _ONLY_ config I can get this to work in is a slave to the master EIDE Disk on the primary ctl. However, once I hook up the sound to the sound board, the CD-ROM becomes completely hosed. Thank you all in advance for your input and help. Chuck Pisula. -- ------------------------------------------------- Steve Jobs quote From UnixWorld, April 1993 "If we give people an alternative to Microsoft... it will have been a greater good." ------------------------------------------------- ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: English lady saying you've got mail In-Reply-To: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU's message of 21 Jul 1995 14:49:47 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Aug2213335@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <3ul0em$6lq@news4.digex.net> <3uoeqb$ovv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 01:33:35 GMT I'd like a copy myself! Robert In article <3uoeqb$ovv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: I asked "the English lady" herself, Celia Fulton, and she says she would be happy to make more recordings; she didn't know anything about the NOVA CDROM. She says the originals only took a couple minutes to make; perhaps the simplest path would be to send your request to Doug Fulton, lbj@be.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mcbinc@world.std.com (Monty C Brandenberg) Subject: Re: English lady saying you've got mail Message-ID: <DCq0vF.6K4@world.std.com> Organization: MCB, Incorporated. Cambridge, MA References: <3ul0em$6lq@news4.digex.net> <3uoeqb$ovv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <RDL.95Aug2213335@world.std.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 06:04:26 GMT : In article <3uoeqb$ovv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: : I asked "the English lady" herself, Celia Fulton, and she : says she would be happy to make more recordings; she didn't : know anything about the NOVA CDROM. She says the originals : only took a couple minutes to make; perhaps the simplest : path would be to send your request to Doug Fulton, lbj@be.com. While I *do* like Celia's voice, I was thinking that an American *Voice* might be a suitable change. Say, James Earl Jones. Contact his agent and make a few recordings in the Conan/Darth Vader style: "New mail has arrived. Read it or face the consequences!" :-) m -- Monty Brandenberg Software Consultant MCB, Inc. mcbinc@world.std.com 617.864.6907
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de> Message-ID: <m0sdLQL-000btOC@a-gain> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:48:11 +0100 Subject: Pump 'em or dump 'em?: Upgrades for NeXT? - NABL Cc: CORRIGAN@CL.UH.EDU CL.UH.EDU wrote: > Pump 'em or dump 'em? > > Are there any upgrade products out there for NeXT machines? Accelerators, > especially? > We're wondering if we can somehow undertake serious image editing work with our > machines, or do we have to trade them in for Power Macs? > > Anyone with any info on NeXT upgrades/tweaking tips, please respond to: > > CORRIGAN@CL.UH.EDU. > > or... > (713) 280-8635 Rick/Trey Hi there! There is a prototype-board called Nitro (there are only 5 out there and the owners would like to stay anonymous) : Its a 40 Mhz 040! And there is the product from Sam Goldberger, called the Pyro!: a 050Mhz 040 upgrade-board which sells for $900 (as far as I recall it) for the Cube and the Station (doesnt matter if its a Color or mono Station). I think Sam has discounts for a higher volume of boards (students get discounts 2) More under: smg@orb.com BTW: Would you like to be included in the following list??? --- THE NeXT ACCELERATION-BOARD-LIST dd: July 31st, 1995 ABL-Entires for 40Mhz-Nitro-Boards: 2 ABL-Entires for (ordered) 50Mhz-Pyro-Boards: 3 ABL-Entires for want to buy a 50Mhz-Pyro: 2 You will receive monthly follow-up-info beginning in mid-September. If you have had any trouble or positive stuff to mention pls. reply to: stefan@a-gain.hanse.de Subject: NABL + and - --- Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. Life has many different colors, but ------ REAL Computing is black! ***** (At least for the NeXT 3 yrs.) ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Huelf voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19 <---> fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92 stefan@a-gain.hanse.de ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: NS and Laptops Message-ID: <rfenney-020895213932@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <3v0qrp$3ef@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 04:34:43 GMT In article <3v0qrp$3ef@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) wrote: > Hi all, > I posted this question about six months ago, and didn't get > any responses from NS/intel users (only Sun voyager users). I would > like to know if anyone is using a NS/FIP laptop of some type, and how > happy they are with it. In particular, I'd like to know if anyone has > been able to install NS on a laptop other than the NEC ultralight. > > thanks in advance, > rosie > > > -- > Thanks for the bandwidth. > > Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, > in whole or in part. Copyright, Steve Rosenblum, 1995. License to distribute I to am looking for a pentium laptop for NS AND OS/2. Does anyone have any ideas? Robert
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Date: 3 Aug 1995 10:48:50 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Message-ID: <3vq9ii$1ej0@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> > WHERE is the Vision for NEXTstep. > WHAT will NeXT do differently this time around > HOW does it intend to accomplish this fantastic feat > WHEN can we expect the corporate culture of NEXT to change (Dramatically > and in such a way that the concept of keeping the customer informed, > serviced & satisified actually sink's in. > WHY is Nextstep not known outside of redwood city WHY is it your problem??? -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart, Germany mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de more? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: scottc@nacs.net (Scott Christley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: US-OH-Cleveland Distributed Computing Date: 2 Aug 1995 15:39:32 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service (216)-524-8388 Message-ID: <3vo67k$bqm@bab5.nacs.net> Job Opening ---------------- Multimedia company is looking to immediately hire a programmer knowledgable in the area of distributed computing/networks. The positions offer a high level of responsibility and personal freedom; you will be working together in a small group to design and implement the next generation of multimedia authoring tools. If you have been looking to get into multimedia then this is your chance! We offer a highly attractive compensation package. The positions will be located in Cleveland, Ohio; and relocation assistance is available. If you are interested, please email me and I will send you the complete announcement for the position. Scott Christley scottc@linus.ocbi.com Ohio Carbon Blank, Inc. 38403 Pelton Road Willoughby, OH 44094
From: Rolf Binz <binz@irm.unibe.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Any Doc Mgt, Workflow, or Workgroup S/W on Next??? Date: 3 Aug 1995 13:38:05 GMT Organization: University of Bern Message-ID: <3vqjft$gam@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <3vc66d$ji9@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: klamerus@ix.netcom.com I only know of a Swiss company that produces workflow software for NeXTStep. I don't have any details and its also not the main product of this company (they develop C/S applications with Gupta). But perhaps it fits your needs. The address is: NT Systems & Consulting AG Technopark Pfingstweidstr. 30 CH-8005 Zuerich Switzerland (Sorry I don't know the e-mail address) Hope that helps! Rolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rolf Binz Forensic Sciences University of Bern Switzerland
From: thompson@wizards.com (Taeko Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: GCC for NeXT 3.3 Date: 3 Aug 1995 15:41:38 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <3vqqni$pc5@gamera.umd.edu> I am looking for a already compiled gcc for NeXT 3.3 . I have checked all ftp archive sites listed in the NeXT internet resource guide, but I could not find one. Thank you for your help Taeko Thompson
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can NEXTSTEP disks be repaired? (need help desparately) Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:40:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <3vr8o2$de7@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> In article <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu>, <esterbro@vt.edu> wrote: >Introduction: A rude installation package formatted the first 3% of a SCSI >NEXTSTEP disk for DOS. Of course, the disk had important files. Of course >it was not completely backed up because I wasn't expecting this. > >Can I patch the disk somehow? > >Here is the detailed account for those of you who are interested: > >I have a Pentium machine with 1 GB EIDE drive and 1 GB SCSI drive. > >The EIDE has a 150 MB partition with a minimal installation of NEXTSTEP >3.3. The other 874 MB was unallocated. The SCSI had a 1 GB partition with a >complete installation of NEXTSTEP 3.3 and my important files. > >My goal was to install DOS 6.2 to the EIDE 874 MB partition. > >In my computer's setup I set the EIDE to be enabled. When I do this the >EIDE becomes the C: drive and the SCSI becomes D: (as the SCSI ROM BIOS >reports at start up). I inserted the DOS setup disk in drive A: which >successfully booted. It kindly asked me if I wanted to use the unallocated >portion of the disk for DOS. I said "YES" afterwhich it formatted it. No >problem there. > >>>> Then without any prompt or even a warning it immediately <<< >>>> began formatting drive D: for DOS! I stopped it after <<< >>>> three percent. <<< > >Now when I boot the NEXTSTEP on EIDE it tries to mount the SCSI drive. I >get the panel, "Disk is unreadable - [Ignore] [Initialize]" I choose ignore >and the disk is mounted as a DOS disk containing no files. > >I know my data is still there on the disk. I need it. > >Can I repair the SCSI by copying the first 30 MB of my NEXTSTEP-EIDE over >the SCSI disk and set the partition ID? At work I have a 512 MB SCSI disk, >if this might make a better source image. > >How do i-nodes factor into this? > >I'm a programmer with NEXTSTEP and some PC-ROM experience. But I am a disk >repair novice. > >Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Please reply directly to >esterbro@vt.edu. > >-Chuck Esterbrook > Orca Computer, Inc. ---------------------------- I have had exactly the same experience as this! I was building a DOS partition on my boot drive about one month ago. I created the DOS partition and then rebooted the computer with the DOS floppy disk. The setup program started and offered to format my disk and install dos. MS-DOS 6.22 formatted my 100 meg dos partition, and then begain immediately formatting my 1 gig NEXTSTEP partition. I saw this and stopped it after about 2-3%. I was livid, and made some phone calls to Microsoft demanding that they pay to recover my lost data. I finally got connected to someone at tech support at Microsoft who made the brilliant suggestion "can't you just run unformat on the partition?". I had to pay $25.00 to hear this and other similar calibre suggestions. It turns out that Microsoft says that my dos 6.22 disks were an OEM product with the company that I bought my computer from (Packard Bell), and Microsoft said that Packard Bell had modified the boot floppy for dos. They also said that THEIR dos disk would not automatically format a second hard drive. I didn't believe it, and when I talked to Packard Bell, their tech support said that they really don't make any big changes to dos setup - just change some parameters. They said it must be a problem with Microsoft. At that point, their only suggestion was to write a letter to Packard Bell explaining what happened. Packard Bell said that for most people, this would not be a problem since they only have one drive, and they use the entire drive for DOS. I tried many things to recover my data. I tried building another disk with NEXTSTEP, and then manually mounting my damaged disk. It could not mount the disk. I then deleted the DOS partition and remade the NEXTSTEP partition using fdisk. I still could not mount the disk. I tried running the "disk" utility with the raw SCSI device and searching for backup boot blocks and running fsck with the alternate boot blocks. Nothing worked, and eventually I had to reformat the disk. I did lose some important data from the drive, and I'm being much more careful since then with my data. I now have my main NEXTSTEP files on a disk with 1024 byte sectors, so it isn't even recognised by DOS! The setup program is a very poorly handled install program by Microsoft, with total ignorance of any other operating system. It's disgraceful that a company with such an inferior product has become such a dominating position in the computer world. Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller) Subject: Re: UNIX mail <-> NeXT mail References: <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:33:50 GMT Message-ID: <1995Aug3.083350.26474@proximus.north.de> In article <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>, Dominic Tam <dtam@cs.ubc.ca> wrote: >Hi, do you know how to convert the mailboxes of UNIX >to NeXT, and the other way around ? If you use elm and are not concerned about converting NeXTmail then you can just open any mbox file with elm. To have it more convinient, just symlink all mbox files from ~/Mailboxes/*.mbox/mbox to the appropiate names in ~/Mail, eg. cd ~/Mail ln -s ../Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox active ln -s ../Mailb... etc. This works for me. Of course, you will lose NeXTmail. If there is a NeXTmail<>ASCII minimal converter, I'd like to know! Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 16:26:43 -0400 From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU> Message-ID: <199508032026.QAA17267@capitalist.princeton.edu> Subject: anyon using 'term'? Has anyone used a program called 'term' on their NeXT? What it is supposed to do is allow you to connect a non-Internet machine to another machine via a modem link (sort of like a SLIP/PPP alternative). I have the source code, but i bombs out pretty early on in the compile and I haven't a clue how to fix it, and the author (oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au) has apparently moved on with no forwarding address 8-( Anyone out there who like a challenge or has some experience with 'term', please let me know. Thank TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME or ASCII only for now, please "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." -- me
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: UNIX mail <-> NeXT mail Date: 3 Aug 1995 22:57:43 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <3vrk97$46l@www.its.com> References: <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> dtam@cs.ubc.ca (Dominic Tam) wrote: > Hi, do you know how to convert the mailboxes of UNIX > to NeXT, and the other way around ? ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox is is the standard Unix format which /usr/ucb/mail and varients can understand, although you will *not* retain NeXTmail attachments. I believe that copying a mbox file into /usr/spool/mail/$USER will work in order to go the other way. You might first need to do a global find-and-replace on the "To:" header in order to reflect the appropriate user name information, however. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 9GB drives for NeXT??? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 02:34:16 GMT Organization: Fibernet: 1-800-305-6995 Distribution: world Message-ID: <cpayne.11.302035A8@fiber.net> References: <3vo7ld$e8@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: speed, reliability, noise >I remember seeing several different remarks on the different 9GB drives, and 8< snip >8 >but now I have to decide which one to take, and currently I m looking at the >Seagate Elite ST-410800N and the Micropolis 1991 (or the Wide SCSI version of >either). both are 9GB, both runs at 5400rpm, both has 12ms access, but the >Seagate has a larger cache, 1MB versus 512KB. 8< snip >8 >So, which should I choose, has anyone any experience with any of these drives >on black hardware??? I have several of the Seagates. The thing that irked me was how much "formatted" space you lose when you put the things in a booting machine, and you DO gain a *little* of it back using disk/newfs, but your 10GB/UF, 9.1GB/Formatted drive turns into a little 7.5GB drive when formatted using BuildDisk to make a boot drive. You lose a LOT! Bigger still was that NS seems to think the drive is a 477MB disk, even when built with a custom disktab entry. I didn't have that trouble with Solaris X.86, Netware, or OS/2, so I don't think it's the drive ID. It also doesn't matter if you're on a Cube or Intel. It's pretty quiet, as disks go. When my news server has about 6 in.nnrpds running, it can get sort-of noisy, but no noisier than an expire, They don't get hot enough to melt DATs set atop the machine (like the Micropolis we HAD), and haven't given me an ounce of fit in 8 months. These days, I expect they're pretty affordable. But, don't take my testimony as being enough to send you running for the HD vendor. As always, YMMV. Carl
From: robertn@seahawk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: UNIX mail <-> NeXT mail Date: 03 Aug 1995 18:11:01 -0700 Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Sender: robertn@seahawk Message-ID: <h2zqhq8od6.fsf@seahawk> References: <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> <1995Aug3.083350.26474@proximus.north.de> In-reply-to: gemoe@proximus.north.de's message of Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:33:50 GMT >In article <3vm4bs$2h9@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>, Dominic Tam <dtam@cs.ubc.ca> wrote: >>Hi, do you know how to convert the mailboxes of UNIX >>to NeXT, and the other way around ? >If you use elm and are not concerned about converting NeXTmail then >you can just open any mbox file with elm. To have it more convinient, >just symlink all mbox files from ~/Mailboxes/*.mbox/mbox to the >appropiate names in ~/Mail, eg. >cd ~/Mail >ln -s ../Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox active >ln -s ../Mailb... etc. That's fine just don't keep Mail.app running ie. mailFetch could cause you some trouble. I don't think Elm and Mail.app are going to use the same locking mechanism. Better would be to use procmail to automatically redirect incoming mail to a different mailbox entirely which you could read with Elm. -- The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the poster and not his employer.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 4 Aug 1995 01:45:05 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <3vru31$f8k@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, McNeXT <mcnext@aol.com> wrote: >NeXT can not reasonably expect to compete in the Win95 market. If so what >is the logic to such a course? >An alternative OS, an "Office" suite of applications (with Nextstep apps >built to work together you'd think this would be a walk in the park), a >Marketing blitz, a new corporate image, what? I'm not sure it's that difficult to compete in the Windows market. Keep in mind that the #1 business program for Windows in 1994 was UnInstaller 1.0 by MicroHelp. As another example, look at the June 27, 1995 issue of PC Magazine's top 10 list of retail software: #1 - Remove-IT 1.0 (yes, another windows uninstaller) #4 - QEMM 7.5 (a memory manager for those not DOS inclined) #7 - MS-DOS 6.22 Upgrade (a piece of crap upgrade for a piece of crap OS) #9 - Windows 3.11 (goody, now we can buy all those neat uninstaller programs!) #10 - Uninstaller 2.0 (the new version of the #1 program for 1994) It's really sad that all those shiny new pentium systems that people are buying are being used by them to chase their own tails. (and, in the process, to put money into the pockets of those greedy little people at Microsoft) NEXTSTEP programs introduced into this market could be a breath of fresh air. (Provided, of course, that they are available for $59 in colorful boxes with shiny shrinkwrap in every neighborhood CompUSA.) Varun PS - Doesn't this thread really belong in .advocacy?
From: X¶Ð Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SerialPorts, PortServer and MultiTech modem Date: 4 Aug 1995 10:45:31 GMT Organization: CalvaNet Message-ID: <3vstob$1id@midgard.calvacom.fr> Reply: kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr Hi, When I use the SerialPorts and PortServer drivers, I can't work with my MutiTech modem on the second serial port. Any suggestions? Kamal BENNANI MVCD (Medical Science and Communication) kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stes@icgned.nl (David Stes) Subject: Re: Coding standard for Obj-c?? Message-ID: <DCs5tt.Hov@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <3vb67p$79k@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 09:46:41 GMT Geoff Hopson <gah@zoo.bt.co.uk> writes > > > Is there a recommended coding standard for Objective-C code? > -- I think being familiar with Smalltalk helps a lot. The people that developed Objective C, adopted the Smalltalk coding style. So reading a book on Smalltalk might be a good idea. Besides, there are many more books on Smalltalk than on Objective C. Another good way of learning Objective C is by buying Stepstone's IC-pak (pack ?) 101. It comes with source code and you can use it as an example of good Objective C coding style. Of course, some people will argue that MutableCar * <MutableCarWithFuelTypeProtocol> aCar = [[MutableCar allocFromNSZone:[[NSZone alloc] initGranularity:8192]] init]; is better coding style than : id aCar = [Car new]; - david stes@icgned.nl
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP INSTALLING S3 GENERIC DRIVER Date: 4 Aug 1995 11:14:44 GMT Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS Message-ID: <3vsvf4$kge$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> We are trying to install the S3 GENERIC DRIVER in our PC with the #9 FX MOTION 771 4MB. During installation it seems to go OK until Register Log gives the message "INSTALLING ..... MODES... OK". Then, it repeats continuously this message and the only way to stop it is to make a reset. Then the driver seems to be not properly installed, as the only resolution available is 640 B&W lines. Could please anybody help with that? Regards: Jesus Izquierdo KROP Audiovisual Systems Madrid, SPAIN Tel: 34 1 6779774 Fax: 34 1 6772649 E-mail: 72332.3705@compuserve.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SerialPorts, PortServer and MultiTech modem Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:04:49 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950804150035.17088A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3vstob$1id@midgard.calvacom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <3vstob$1id@midgard.calvacom.fr> On 4 Aug 1995 X=B6=18=06=18=D0=10@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote: > Hi, >=20 > When I use the SerialPorts and PortServer drivers, I can't work with my= =20 > MutiTech modem on the second serial port. Any suggestions? >=20 I'm sure you didn't forget to install a second SerialPort.device for the=20 second serial port, or am I wrong? (You need one instance of=20 SerialPort.device for each serial port and configure them properly in=20 Configure) Best regards, Boerny. --=20 Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) =20 scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ =20 scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: mbsgr@mail.alliance.net (Brian Brandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac's and Win on a Novell Network Date: 4 Aug 1995 14:45:44 GMT Organization: Midwest Business Systems Message-ID: <3vtbqo$5ja@allinux2.alliance.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Has anyone done a cost analysis for Multi-Platform networks vs. Single-Platform networks? Specifically running Mac's and Win on a Novell Network versus PC's and Win. Please e-mail me at mbsgr@mail.alliance.net Thank You
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com> Message-ID: <9508041505.AA18489@nesteggs.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) From: Michael E Crawford <crawford@nesteggs.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:05:06 -0500 Subject: Re: 9GB drives for NeXT -- seeing all nine >I have several of the Seagates. The thing that irked me was >how much "formatted" space you lose when you put the things >in a booting machine, and you DO gain a *little* of it back >using disk/newfs, but your 10GB/UF, 9.1GB/Formatted drive >turns into a little 7.5GB drive when formatted using >BuildDisk to make a boot drive. You lose a LOT! That's true only until you actually put data on the drive. Please recall that the disk sets aside a big chunk ( on the order of 10-20%) for its own arcane purposes. When you fill up your disk, say by doubling Shakespeare's lifetime written output, you'll find the disk gradually relinquishing that space, so that when it's full, & you're shopping for a new 1" 33GB drive, you'll see that indeed there is 9 Gigabytes of human thought stored on that disk. Best wishes Michael Crawford nesteggs Houston
From: michael@mcnabb.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS and Laptops Date: 4 Aug 1995 19:45:15 GMT Organization: Michael McNabb Software Services Message-ID: <3vttcb$29b6@news-s02.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <3v0qrp$3ef@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <rfenney-020895213932@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> In <rfenney-020895213932@rfenney.slip.netcom.com>, rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) writes: > >I to am looking for a pentium laptop for NS AND OS/2. Does anyone have any >ideas? Check in with Steve Muir at DataNet, a California vendor with a lot of NS experience. They're evaluating the TI Travelmate 5000. I have already asked them to also check out OS/2 compatibility. info: smuir@eclipse.com I'll post when I learn more (if they don't). Mike McNabb
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Stepwise and the announce newsgroup down Date: 4 Aug 1995 20:55:31 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <3vu1g3$ifo@www.its.com> Scott Anguish asked me to post this for him: A recent electrical storm took down the leased data lines for Scott's machines. This means that stepwise.com and the Stepwise WWW server, comp.sys.next.announce, and digifix.digifix.com are temporarily no longer connected the Internet. It would probably be a good idea to stop posting messages to c.s.n.announce until Scott lets us know that his machines are back up (post anything that can't wait to misc). Thanks, -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: When/where are other Object World Expos??? Date: 4 Aug 1995 20:04:35 GMT Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins Message-ID: <3vtugj$iu5@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov> Hi - Am missing the Expo this month, but am hoping there's another one this year. Any information on when/where the next one or two are planned for? Agenda's would be great. Rich -- ---------------------------------------- 1700 S. College, ste. 514 | "All opinions expressed are mine | Fort Collins, CO 80525 | and probably don't represent my | Internet: rich@nail2.ftc.nrcs.ag.gov | employer. I reserve the right | ==| | | to change my opinions retroactively."| N ====| --------------------||------------------ E | |==============================================// T ====| ==| |
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Playing .wav files Date: 5 Aug 1995 00:37:13 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3vuefp$39a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Anyone have an idea how I might listen to a .wav file on a NeXTStation? Many thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: michael@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg (Michael Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:37:42 GMT Organization: Technet, Singapore Message-ID: <3vup26$7g5@raffles.technet.sg> References: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3vru31$f8k@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) wrote: > As another example, look at the June 27, 1995 issue of PC Magazine's top 10 list of retail software: > #1 - Remove-IT 1.0 (yes, another windows uninstaller) > #4 - QEMM 7.5 (a memory manager for those not DOS inclined) > #7 - MS-DOS 6.22 Upgrade (a piece of crap upgrade for a piece of crap OS) > #9 - Windows 3.11 (goody, now we can buy all those neat uninstaller programs!) > #10 - Uninstaller 2.0 (the new version of the #1 program for 1994) > It's really sad that all those shiny new pentium systems that people are buying are being used by them to chase their own tails. (and, in the process, to put money into the pockets of those greedy little people at Microsoft) > NEXTSTEP programs introduced into this market could be a breath of fresh air. (Provided, of course, that they are available for $59 in colorful boxes with shiny shrinkwrap in every neighborhood CompUSA.) Probably not US$59 but let's say US$199 range. With a good application suite, good communications software, good DTP and Illustration software, 3-D software, CHEAPER development tools and solid server tools, I believe NeXTStep will be able to push Windoze down to only the low-range PCs and squeeze WindozeNT out of the ring. If there is no future of moving up from Windoze to something higher-range WindozeNT-type systems, users will try to avoid using Windoze in the first place so as to keep upgrading prospects alive. A desktop version of NS can then be released to finish Windoze off. Right now, with the support of Windoze and the not too bad of NT, there is no big obstruction for companies to follow the Micro$oft way. Many companies probably hate to go that way, but it is the easiest and cheapest. An advice to NeXT, heroes always die first. They're glorious, but they're also dead. If the market is too restricted, how would one get the sales and funding to improve faster and better. Micro$oft 15 years ago probably couldn't afford to spend that money to take their own sweet time to come out with Windoze95... Just an opinion. --- ** *** Michael Chan **** CompuGraph International Pte Ltd **** E-Mail : Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg *** (NeXTMail Ok) ** -- ** *** Michael Chan **** CompuGraph International Pte Ltd **** E-Mail : Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg *** (NeXTMail Ok) **
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Playing .wav files Date: 5 Aug 1995 14:29:45 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <3vvv8p$252@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <3vuefp$39a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes, > Anyone have an idea how I might listen to a .wav file on a NeXTStation? > Yup: either use GISO.app to convert the file into .snd format, or use my MMSoundInspector to play and inspect the thing from Workspace (note that there are allegedly a couple of bugs with the latter -- some stemming from NEXTSTEP itself, though). Have fun, mmalc.
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Found info on *ultimat* scanner Date: 5 Aug 1995 18:36:17 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <400dn1$1sbp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - A couple weeks ago I posted, requesting scanner information. I received a half dozen responses. The preferred scanners appear to be Epson 1200C and HPIIIC. Software, in descending preference, was ScanTastic, ScanOmatic, Dots, and ExtraScan/ExtraPrint/ExtraRead. (The stuff I saw on Dots appears to be for printers only, but am guessing one can get a scanner module for it). I'm looking around trying to get more info on ScanTastic. Looked at the OpenSource page but it doesn't say explicitly what scanner models it supports. It says it supports some UMAX models, for instance, but don't know which ones. My wife and I are tentatively looking at the UMAX UC1260 and the ScanTastic software. It looks like the UC1260 will support 1200 by 600 resolution optically and up to 9600 by software. One question I have is whether the ScanTastic stuff will give me the 9600 dpi or not. We were hoping to get an all-in-one printer/copier/etc but those are still too limiting. Decided to get a *good* scanner instead of a mediocre all-in-one. In terms of customer support, quality construction, and innovative (latest/greatest) features, is UMAX a contender? Can't really afford to go over $800.00, but want the best deal that will work with the ScanTastic software and black hardware. Are SCSI scanners leading edge or are parallel/something else, the preferred way to go? Lots of cautious buyer questions. Appreciate the info. Will pass along what I receive. Prefer if responses go to warnerr@beethoven.cs. colostate.edu. Rich
From: moellney@michi.bota.uni-bonn.de (Michael Moellney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Windows95 and NeXTSTEP Date: 5 Aug 1995 19:21:42 GMT Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <400gc6$gi9@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <nlee.807266932@s6.math.umn.edu> nlee@s6.math.umn.edu (Namyong Lee) wrote: > After installing Windows95 succesfully(?) I lost the choice of booting either NeXTSTEP or Windows. (It removed the boot manager.) Before upgrading Windows 95, it boots NeXTSTEP as a default. Is there any way to recover the situation without reinstalling NeXTSTEP? Is there anyway to make a boot floppy? Any help will be appreciated. Read setup.txt that came with WIN95 (Beta?) -- or -- Start a DOS-Box. Start FDisk. Select the NextSTEP Partition as your active Partition. Hint: Browse NeXTANSWERS for 'boot' Bye, Michael
From: seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Playing .wav files Date: 5 Aug 1995 20:37:51 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <400kqv$ecl@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <3vuefp$39a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3vvv8p$252@hippo.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: > jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes, >> Anyone have an idea how I might listen to a .wav file on a NeXTStation? >> >Yup: either use GISO.app to convert the file into .snd format, or use >my MMSoundInspector to play and inspect the thing from Workspace (note >that there are allegedly a couple of bugs with the latter -- some >stemming from NEXTSTEP itself, though). Thanks to mmalc, Resound.app also will read .wav files. Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: wkwong@bellman.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any Acrobat reader for NeXT? Date: 5 Aug 1995 21:07:09 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <400mht$paj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hi All, As the title said, does anyone know if there is a acrobat reader? Andy -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu // ||// @ 75662.2020@compuserve.com //==||\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!" // || \\ @ "NeXTMAIL and MIME IS WELCOME!"
From: gleicher@ig5.PPP.ORNL.GOV (Michael K. Gleicher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "DPS client library error" when attempting to use -NXHost Date: 6 Aug 1995 02:49:51 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Message-ID: <401akf$fos@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Keywords: NXHost I apologize if this is in the FAQ - I have been unsuccessful in retrieving them today. I am running NS 3.3 on an Intel platform at home, and am trying to run applications on the NS 3.3 (Intel) machine in my office, using NXHost to display on the home machine. I always get the error: DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host ig5.ppp.ornl.gov Watching the modem lights, it does appear that the remote machine attempts to connect to the local system when the application starts. I have disabled the "private window server" and "private sound server" options in preferences, but this does not seem to make a difference. I have also tried setting up the office system as a public window server and displaying to it from a NeXT Cube over an ethernet connection with the same failure, so I don't think this is a SLIP-related problem. (I'm using Transys PNI for my SLIP connection - all other network programs seem to be working just fine). I've looked through NeXTAnswers and the Librarian documentation, but can't find any mention of problems, or anything that indicates NXHost is not supported for NS/Intel, etc. In trying to track the problem, I notice: - In /etc/services, the entry NSWS 45568/tcp (NSWS := "NextStep Window Server" ???) - /etc/inetd.conf, the entry: NSWS stream tcp wait root /usr/lib/NextStep/NSWSd NSWSd The program /usr/lib/NextStep/NSWSd does not exist on either of my systems or on the NeXTStep 3.3 CD. Is anybody else having this problem? Am I just missing the NSWSd program? Thanks for any advice! Michael ---------------------------------------------------------- Michael Gleicher Oak Ridge National Laboratory Center for Computational Sciences (615) 241-2861 FAX: (615) 241-2850 gleichermk@ornl.gov (NeXT mail welcome)
From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "DPS client library error" when attempting to use -NXHost Date: 6 Aug 1995 17:20:48 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Message-ID: <402tlg$dh1@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <401akf$fos@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> gleicher@ig5.PPP.ORNL.GOV (Michael K. Gleicher) wrote: > I am running NS 3.3 on an Intel platform at home, and am trying to > run applications on the NS 3.3 (Intel) machine in my office, using > NXHost to display on the home machine. I always get the error: > DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host > ig5.ppp.ornl.gov From an old post: Path: newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!rosie.next.com!usenet From: bhill@next.com (Brian Hill (Contractor)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: -NXHost over PPP or SLIP Date: 22 Jun 1994 21:59:19 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <2uac7n$buc@rosie.next.com> References: <2ts6an$bv4@news1.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: evert.next.com In article <2ts6an$bv4@news1.digex.net> sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender) writes: > > Has anyone been able to get -NXHost to work over PPP or SLIP from >Black to > White? I get connection errors when I try. Any help >would be appreciated. > > - Scott Is your problem really going from black-to-white or could it be a configuration error that is actually hardware-independent? Assuming the latter, I needed to send kill -31 21 on my personal machine to get -NXHost to work with it as the slip client. Process 21 is the nmserver. If the slip routing is set up in rc.local, the nmserver never finds out about the connection. Take a look in /etc/rc.net for a short bit of script (search for "fruits") that you can append to /etc/rc.local. The only problem is that once the slip connection is up and nmserver knows about it, it seems to be kept alive. That is, the default in the SLIP package that I am using (which is to drop the link after five minutes of disuse) is defeated. --Brian ------------- You might also be able to get things working by making the proper entries in your NetInfo host table. Cheers, Mark
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 02 Aug 1995 14:28:52 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ. Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Aug2102852@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> References: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> <rfenney-020895004359@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> In-reply-to: rfenney@netcom.com's message of Wed, 2 Aug 1995 07:58:48 GMT <rfenney@netcom.com> writes: >developers and clients. Developers need NeXT (it is a cool development Developers *do not* need NeXT. They can either move to OpenStep on Sun, or say goodbye to the whole thing and move to a more accepted platform. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'll trade 5-10 times faster for 100-1000 times more sales. Once NeXT figures this out, that their clients and developers *do not* need them, maybe they'll start thinking of actually partnering with thier developers and consultants, rather than playing favorites or hampering their efforts or just plain ignoring them. >environment!) And I personnaly wish people would quit ragging on Steve. He >is one of the visionaries and that's a fact! Steve does tend to get fixated >though. He should have reacted sooner at APPLE to open the MAC. He has paid >for his mistakes and I hope he learns. DeLorean thought he could make a car >his way and damm anyone if they didn't like it! Well we all know where that >got him! We are NeXT's life blood. The development community is what NeXT >is all about and they need to understand that like NeXT itself we are >conserned when things are not going well. I think that you have been doing >a greate job here on the net please keep up the good work! The NeXT >community can not aford to loss another organization like Pages, and Talos >(both good examples.) I have been concerned for four years. I'm no longer concerned. I figure, what the hell, I gave it my best shot at correcting their end of things, and trying to work with them. Working with NEXTSTEP means working against NeXT. At least when you move to another platform, you don't have to work against NeXT anymore. NeXT is gonna do what NeXT is gonna do, no matter what anyone says, positive or negative. They bask in the deliberate flattery and reward it. They frown on criticism and punish it. This will be the way it will be until the upper management is gone, or NeXT dies. The 5 year lead, as someone else put it, is now a 1 year lead. Win95 looks as good as NEXTSTEP from a UI point of view. Next will come objects, and if NeXT doesn't fix the leaky ship, they'll become a total anachronism. Anyway, I used to need NeXT, until they showed me the error of my ways. Now, I don't need NeXT anymore... sure, NEXTSTEP remains a valuable tool and a source of consulting revenue and is fun to make shareware for, but it could die and neither would I be worried about my programming future nor would I shed a tear. - db These are personal opinions, and if I catch you labelling others with them, I'll beat the living daylights out of you. You are warned... -- "Investing in tech stocks is a high risk." -- Bill Gates, Microsoft Chairman, after incurring a two day paper loss of 2 billion dollars on Microsoft stock.
From: stevied@natasha.bankone.com (Steve Dieringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A Favor: Misunderstanding, NeXT, and The Universe Date: 6 Aug 1995 19:56:28 GMT Organization: Bank One Message-ID: <4036pc$1mq@natasha.bankone.com> References: <3vlu0g$1lb@www.its.com> -- Steve Dieringer NeXTMail: steved@bankone.com Group Product Manager, Electronic Commerce Product & Technology Management, 1140 Bank One, Columbus, NA Columbus, OH 43271-1140 Phone: (614) 248-3019
From: Paul da Silveira <pauldasi@ozemail.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Newbie: Installing 3.2/Intel: Can I use the Adaptec 2940 controller? Date: 6 Aug 1995 23:15:07 GMT Organization: OzEmail Pty Ltd - Australia Message-ID: <950807$091050$5470pauldasi@ozemail.com.au> Hello all, I am attempting to use the abovementioned controller with a Sony Quad Speed CD-ROM drive. NS3.2/I installation tells me that the "CD-ROM drive or adapter is not present". I presume that this is because the 1542 is not compatible with the 2940. Is there any way I can install 3.2 with the 2940 controller. P.S. The drive is set to SCSI port 0 etc. as per the requirements of the 3.2 Installation guide. Many thanks. Paul da Silveira pauldasi@ozemail.com.au
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: sam is back Date: 6 Aug 1995 22:21:04 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <sams.807771914@shell1.best.com> Hi everybody, thought somebody out there might be interested in hearing that I'm back from 8 months of backpacking on the other side of the world. I've got a job doing NextStep work already too. The only thing I missed more than NS was a refrigerator full of goodies for a midnight snack! (Except in Thailand, where a good Tom Kha Kai beats a refrigerator full of anything any day!) I can be reached at: sam@filoli.com I'm busy enough that it will take me a while to respond to any email. cheers, -sam (that's sam streeper, in case the header doesn't show it. Oh, and if you don't know me then I'm sorry you had to read all this!)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie: Installing 3.2/Intel: Can I use the Adaptec 2940 controller? Date: 7 Aug 1995 06:06:49 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <404ahp$1rd@news4.digex.net> References: <950807$091050$5470pauldasi@ozemail.com.au> Paul da Silveira <pauldasi@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > I am attempting to use the abovementioned controller with a Sony > Quad Speed CD-ROM drive. NS3.2/I installation tells me that the > "CD-ROM drive or adapter is not present". > I presume that this is because the 1542 is not compatible with > the 2940. > Is there any way I can install 3.2 with the 2940 controller. I'm pretty sure that 3.2 couldn't handle this PCI card. I think you will have little choice but to update to NS 3.3-which can deal with PCI and in particular supports your driver. -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 9GB drives for NeXT -- seeing all nine Date: 7 Aug 1995 16:21:50 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <405eiu$rgk@www.its.com> References: <9508041505.AA18489@nesteggs.com> Michael E Crawford <crawford@nesteggs.com> wrote: > That's true only until you actually put data on the drive. > Please recall that the disk sets aside a big chunk ( on the > order of 10-20%) for its own arcane purposes. Newfs/mkfs and the Berkeley FFS reserve a default of 10% of space in order to improve disk performance by reducing fragmentation problems. BTW, this parameter is configurable, either at filesystem creation time ("man mkfs") or later ("man tunefs"). -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Usenet article download Date: 7 Aug 1995 16:25:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <405eqj$j6b@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I have a need to monitor a large set of USENET groups. I would like a tool that will automatically download the new articles (once or twice a day) and allow me to run them through a filter. Are there any tools available that would give me such a capability? - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: Any Acrobat reader for NeXT? In-Reply-To: Your message of "05 Aug 1995 21:07:09 GMT." <400mht$paj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <199508071957.PAA04639@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Cc: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 15:57:06 -0400 In message <400mht$paj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> you write: >As the title said, does anyone know if there is a acrobat reader? [...] Detlev Droege <droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> has one. Ask him about it. --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger Internet: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922 University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Where did www.stepwise.com go? Message-ID: <DCynt4.Iv9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:00:39 GMT I was trying to look up the address and phone number of The Printer Works and have been unable to contact www.stepwise.com. Are they down for a few days, or down for good, or are they just so busy that you can't contact them early Sunday morning? In the mean time, does anyone know the phone number or email of The Printer Works? Steve -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
From: "Charles C. Hocker" <american@aztec.asu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any Cool NeXTSTEP Logo's out there? Date: 8 Aug 1995 02:56:41 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Message-ID: <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com> I guess the title say's it all. I was just wondering where to get some NS logo's other then the one's that came with the OS itself. Thanks, Charles C. Hocker email: american@aztec.asu.edu
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Stepwise and the announce newsgroup down Date: 7 Aug 1995 21:51:12 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4061sg$680@www.its.com> References: <3vu1g3$ifo@www.its.com> Hello, all: Stepwise and comp.sys.next.announce are still down as of 20:30 GMT, 7-August-1995. Scott Anguish asked me to post an update for him: "The problem is with the Bell Canada circuit. There is a remote possibility that [Scott's] CSU/DSU also got zapped, but [he] won't know for sure until things are tested at the Bell Canada end. It's going to be difficult to get Bell out Monday, since it's a state holiday." "Everything possible is being done to fix the problem." Thanks, -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any Acrobat reader for NeXT? Date: 8 Aug 1995 04:27:58 GMT Organization: ex nihilo, inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <406p4e$7o5@anshar.shadow.net> References: <400mht$paj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@bellman.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) wrote: > Hi All, > As the title said, does anyone know if there is a acrobat reader? I just found one that seems to work very well. It's called PDFViewer.app. Unfortunately, I forgot where I got it from. You can ask the author (Detlev Droege <droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de>) to provide you with an FTP address of the current version. -- Dino Bagdadi ex nihilo, inc. dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME) Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott) Subject: Re: Where did www.stepwise.com go? Message-ID: <DCzG7q.1w1@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <DCynt4.Iv9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:14:13 GMT In article <DCynt4.Iv9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: > I was trying to look up the address and phone number of The Printer > > Works and have been unable to contact www.stepwise.com. Are they down for > a few days, or down for good, or are they just so busy that you can't > contact them early Sunday morning? Well, I guess they forgot to buy a UPS. Lightning struck! Jan Roskott
From: chwastyk@jordan.nrl.navy.mil (Tom Chwastyk) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Display Postscript pages superimposed - Windows/NeXT problem Date: 8 Aug 1995 12:28:06 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <407l8m$9oh@ra.nrl.navy.mil> I use both NeXT (with its Display Postscript) and Windows machines. If I print in Windows to an eps spool file and then QVTnet/lpr the file to a NeXT print queue, the pages print normally on separate sheets of paper. If I ftp the same file to the NeXT environment and Previewer picks it up, all the pages are superimposed on one another - and if I fax or print it from Previewer, I get one sheet with all 20 pages' worth of black on it. I don't have a fax modem on the Windows side and would like to be able to use the one I have on the NeXT side. Is there a way to get Previewer and Windows to agree to separate the pages? E-mail reply would be appreciated. -- Tom Chwastyk ("Fosdick"*) | Naval Research Laboratory *Polish: CH = 'H, W = F (here), | Mech. of Mater. Br. (6380) A = AH, Y = I. Soften strict | 4555 Overlook Ave SW 'HFAH-stik... :-) 202-767-2567 | Washington, DC 20375-5343
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Webster booboo Date: 8 Aug 95 12:45:53 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.807885953@coricopat> Hiya, just wanted to share this little Webster thing I ran into today.. I tried to look up "cutlery".. Look what I got: cut-lery \'ket-le-reE\ (15c) 1: the business of a cutler Ok, so what is a cutler.. cut-ler \'ket-ler\ n [ME, fr. MF coutelier, fr. LL cultellarius, fr. L cultellus] (15c) :one who makes, deals in, or repairs cutlery Aha.. just what I thought. :-) Chris - -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany # P+++>+++++ (sic) e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cambridge Animation Joins OpenSource at Object World Date: 8 Aug 1995 14:47:37 GMT Organization: OpenSource Inc. Message-ID: <407te9$jpt@trane.opensource.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Cambridge Animation Systems, Ltd. admin@cam-ani-usa.com OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN info@opensource.com http://www.opensource.com Cambridge Animation Systems Joins OpenSource at Object World DENVER, COLORADO - August 4, 1995. OpenSource, Inc. today announced that Cambridge Animation Systems, Ltd. will be demonstrating their industry-leading Animo 2d animation package in the OpenSource Exhibit at this year's Object World San Francisco. Animo is a professional animation system for producers of cartoons and other two-dimensional animation. Features include: * 2D Animation software for Film Television and interactive Media * Digital Ink and Paint * Automated In-Betweening * Automated Lip Sync * Special effects "We are very excited about Cambridge joining us for Object World," states OpenSource Vice President Wes Carrington. "Their recently-announced partnership with Dreamworks SKG is testament to the high-quality applications that are being developed with the object-oriented power of NEXTSTEP." "NEXTSTEP has always been our Development Environment of choice," explains Tom Carrigan, Cambridge Animation Systems' Head of Sales. "Not only is it the platform on which we developed Animo, but it is also what we use here at work. We are delighted to be able to join OpenSource at what promises to be this year's premiere NEXTSTEP event." The OpenSource Exhibit at Object World is housed in booth #628 and will be open August 15-17 at San Francisco's Moscone Center. OpenSource, Inc. OpenSource is a single-source reseller of third-party applications and pre-configured hardware for the NEXTSTEP operating system. Dedicated to prompt service and quality support, OpenSource offers the most extensive line of NEXTSTEP related products in the industry. OpenSource is headquartered in Denver, Colorado. Cambridge Animation Systems, Ltd. Formed in 1990, Cambridge Animation Systems Limited is based in Cambridge, England with an office in Hollywood, CA. The company's mission has been to develop creative software solutions for the production of cartoon animation. Cambridge's Animo 2D animation software is used in over 80 animation studios around the world to create animation for feature films, television series, commercials, games and multimedia productions. # # # # OpenSource is a trademark of OpenSource, Inc. Animo is a trademark of Cambridge Animation Systems, Ltd. NEXTSTEP is a registered trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc. All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective owners. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: cherryt@bu.edu (Cherry Tong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: computers for rent?? Date: 8 Aug 1995 14:44:32 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <407t8g$7kc@news.bu.edu> anyone know of any place who rents computers (pcs) for the semester? please email me!
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Webster booboo Date: 8 Aug 1995 14:59:07 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <407u3r$im3@emerald.oz.net> References: <neuss.807885953@coricopat> In article <neuss.807885953@coricopat> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss) writes: > just wanted to share this little Webster thing I ran into today.. > I tried to look up "cutlery".. Look what I got: > cut-lery \'ket-le-reE\ > (15c) > 1: the business of a cutler Well, the version of Webster I have includes a second definition that makes this foolishness a little less so: 2: edged or cutting tools; specif: implements for cutting and eating food > Ok, so what is a cutler.. > cut-ler \'ket-ler\ n > [ME, fr. MF coutelier, fr. LL cultellarius, fr. L cultellus] > (15c) > :one who makes, deals in, or repairs cutlery This refers to cutlery definition 2 which breaks the circular definition. So it's not as bad as it seemed. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Date: 8 Aug 1995 15:52:52 GMT Organization: (null pointer) Message-ID: <40818k$1698@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> This is a good thread. It would be really great if we as loyal NeXT users could influence the company to be more responsive to us, and more helpful to developers. I hope we can succeed in getting NeXT's attention! -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/finleyg.htmld/index.html
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter (what will NeXT do differently this time) Date: 3 Aug 1995 14:49:12 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <3vqnl8$okj@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3vkgom$b6h@ill.msilink.com> <3vmmn2$p8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3vq9ii$1ej0@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <3vq9ii$1ej0@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, Markus Wenzel <wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: > >> WHERE is the Vision for NEXTstep. >> WHAT will NeXT do differently this time around >> HOW does it intend to accomplish this fantastic feat >> WHEN can we expect the corporate culture of NEXT to change (Dramatically >> and in such a way that the concept of keeping the customer informed, >> serviced & satisified actually sink's in. >> WHY is Nextstep not known outside of redwood city > >WHY is it your problem??? It is the problem of every thinking person to ask questions about important matters. The future of NeXT is important because it is one factor in the survival/non-survival of NEXTSTEP. Anyone who has tried developing under NEXTSTEP as well as other operating systems (at least one popular operating system really does not deserve to be classified as such :-)), has found that NEXTSTEP puts the fun back in development, and reduces the time taken by up to an order of magnitude. We want NEXTSTEP to survive, and don't want NeXT to behave in ways which reduce the chances of that happening. More than that, we want NEXTSTEP/OpenSTEP to become the operating system of choice. Its time we had something better than the should-be-nameless ones as a widely used standard. It would save everyone so much time, pain and angst! > > >-- >who? // Markus Wenzel >work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart, Germany >mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de >more? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778 | (Albert Einstein) NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: nextjet@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reg Nitro Board Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:31:35 +500 Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (800)IDS-1680 Message-ID: <4083jb$4e7@paperboy.ids.net> Anyone out there interested in selling their nitro I'm a taker.
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: More on 1024b/sector cartridges Date: 8 Aug 1995 17:03:04 GMT Organization: BT Labs Message-ID: <4085c8$46p@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have recently install NT3.51 on a system with DOS 6.22 and NeXTStep. I have been using a Maxoptic T1304 optical drive with 1.2Gb and 1.3Gb cartridges formatted in DOS. NT and NeXTstep can both read the 1.2Gb cartridge, but neither can read the 1.3Gb 1024bytes per sector DOS cartridge. I have found that I can format a 1.3Gb cartridge under NT, but then DOS can not read it (nor can NeXTstep). It is not possible to reformat a 1.3Gb cartridge as a 1.2Gb cartridge. Does anyone know why NT cannot read the 1.3Gb DOS formatted cartridge? Is there anyway that I can format/setup the 1.3Gb cartridge so that both DOS and NT (at least) can read/write to it? I could live with 1.2Gb cartridges, but have 9Gb of data on 1.3Gb cartridges! Thanks Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpmeia@netcom.com Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Message-ID: <nntpuserDD09ts.BK8@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:53:51 GMT Hi, All. The reader can be had from: ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/droege/ file is: PDFViewer_<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz I've downloaded it but not yet used it. JP Nextmail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: NT or NEXTSTEP in Moscow? Message-ID: <DD0CBn.20p@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:47:47 GMT A Moscow-based colleague of mine has received a grant to purchase computers. He wants to stick with Intel so that he can run the many DOS programs I am told are in circulation. He also wants a no-nonsense OS, however, with full TCP/IP, multi-tasking, and memory protection. The choice is down to NT or NEXTSTEP and he would like to know what the possibilities are of getting help with setup, support, etc, for these in Moscow. If you can help, please email Lev Zhivotovsky, lev@charles.stanford.edu. Thanks, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office) tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home) fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 7 Aug 1995 04:15:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <40440h$480@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where did www.stepwise.com go? Date: 9 Aug 1995 03:59:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <409br0$402@digifix.digifix.com> References: <DCynt4.Iv9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <DCzG7q.1w1@icgned.nl> jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott) wrote: > In article <DCynt4.Iv9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> > smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: > > I was trying to look up the address and phone number of The Printer > > > Works and have been unable to contact www.stepwise.com. Are they down for > > a few days, or down for good, or are they just so busy that you can't > > contact them early Sunday morning? > > Well, I guess they forgot to buy a UPS. Lightning struck! > > > Jan Roskott Its back up now. We have a UPS, and surge on everything EXCEPT the leased line.... and it was the CSU/DSU that got zapped. :-( I WILL have a surge for that line really soon now.. I didn't even know they were available (I've since found out that Panamax sells them, as well as ethernet, satellite and other telcom protection). I can't stress how important that a UPS is (especially considering the cost now < $200) and surge protection. This strike took out my CSU/DSU and my neighbours fax/modem, neither of which were protected.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can NEXTSTEP disks be repaired? (need help desparately) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 6 Aug 1995 10:13:37 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4024kh$654@portal.gmu.edu> References: <3vasik$o5l@server.cs.vt.edu> <OTTO.95Jul31155259@tukki.jyu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: use disk (eww) The "disk" program has a non-destructive option to search for backup, or alternate blocks. It's the best option to start the recovery process... I will refrain from ranting about "disk"'s other grevious faults, NeXT hasn't fixed them, even thoug they've known for years what they are and I doubt they ever will... (and if you're at NeXT going "I donut know, no one told me" mail me and I'll elaborate in a nice way.) Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail) Tim Scanlon George mason University Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic posession
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: I love my NeXT but I love my Mac more Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 03:11:44 -0600 Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <lwallyci-0908950311440001@dal13.onramp.net> This was recently posted in .marketplace, and I just had to comment: > it is a very unique system (1 of 5), and the ppp software /MorningStarPPP/ > (which won't crash your machine like certain pd versions i could mention) > costs $795. But my MacPPP is budget shareware and has NeVER crashed my mac-hine! then: > the nitro daughtercard: > 40MHz 68040 > custom cache control asic > 128KB synch-burst 4-way interleave secondary cache And isn't this just a fancy DayStar accellerator board?? I love my NeXT(s) but it is times like these I wonder! Les RE: 21" color monitor 32MB RAM 1.7GB Micropolis 2217 HD ADB keyboard and mouse TTYDSP (use the DSP port as a 128Kb serial port) MorningStar PPP (and i will get it configured for you) 3.3 user and 3.2 developer > best offer over $3500, and the first $4000 takes it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Wanted: Large NeXT logo Message-ID: <DD0rt7.3J3@waldo.com> Sender: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Organization: The WaldoNet Group Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 01:22:18 GMT ... for background on a 1024x768 Windows 95 machine. Hey, I only do this to eat; I need something to cheer me up at work... MIME or NeXT mail desired. Either that or a pointer to an ftp site. Thanks! Matt -- __ Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) BMW.--. /\_\ "Believer in all things well-engineered" /XX \ \/_/ hocker@waldo.com \ XX/ NeXTSTEP! NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here `--'325ic
From: fnyman@nova.umuc.edu (Fredrik Nyman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hayes ISDN Extender Date: 9 Aug 1995 09:45:33 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <40ae5t$h5b@nova.umuc.edu> Does anyone still sell these boxes? Thanks, Fredrik -- Fredrik Nyman CACI 1120 G Street NW Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 "The Internet, for the uninitiated, is a collection of computer systems at universities, nonprofit research groups, the federal government, and some obscure businesses--all traditional hotbeds of hip, right?" SPY 8/94
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 9 Aug 1995 15:25:05 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <40ak0h$cks@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <nntpuserDD09ts.BK8@netcom.com> In article <nntpuserDD09ts.BK8@netcom.com> jpmeia@netcom.com writes: > Hi, All. The reader can be had from: > ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/droege/ > file is: > PDFViewer_<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz OK - now that the can is open I can write a little about it. The version of PDFViewer (my native NEXTSTEP viewer for Adobe Acrobat PDF files) you'll find at the above address is - a pre version (currently 0.66) - time limited until 30. Aug. 1995 2:00 am GMT - buggy + incomplete - slow with large documents or lots of large graphics - ... but will do a quite good job for lots of PDF files. It does most of the regular navigation and (hyper?) linking stuff, annotation display and what you would expect. It might even print the document, but be careful with that feature, it might produce undesired results with "rotated" PDF pages. It uses any Type1, Type3 and Multiple Master Type1 font in the file or on the system, but TrueType and unknonwn fonts are allways replaced with Times-Roman. Some more advanced text and graphics render modes (text clipping ...) won't work either. Encrypted documents can't be displayed as this would require to license the RC4 algorithm from RSA Inc. (sic?). No text search either - that's nifty, the format doesn't support that very well. Don't pretend I didn't tell you that it will stop working in about three weeks !! (But there should be a newer version then at the same place or at some of the ususal archive sites.) There is a README file at the same place which is also included in the .tar.gz file. Please don't overestimate the capacity of our Internet connection. It's a rather slow line, so avoid fetching it if you can - Thanks. Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: levitin@cogsci.uoregon.edu (Daniel Levitin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: Trouble Installing new fonts Date: 9 Aug 1995 15:36:22 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <40aklm$3qm@pith.uoregon.edu> I downloaded some new fonts and put them in my NextLibrary/fonts directory (they all have a .font extension). But none of them show up in my applications (edit, Word Perfect). I have rebooted since loading them in. This makes me think there is some sort of install procedure I don't know about and that isn't in my manual. Can someone give me some help with this? Thanks , Dan
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: Trouble Installing new fonts Date: 9 Aug 1995 17:55:21 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <40asq9$4rc@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <40aklm$3qm@pith.uoregon.edu> levitin@cogsci.uoregon.edu (Daniel Levitin) wrote: > I downloaded some new fonts and put them in my NextLibrary/fonts directory > (they all have a .font extension). But none of them show up in my > applications (edit, Word Perfect). I have rebooted since loading them in. > This makes me think there is some sort of install procedure I don't know > about and that isn't in my manual. Can someone give me some help with > this? Make a buildafmdir /NextLibrary/fonts - Karsten --- ***************************************************************** Karsten Heinze Tel.: +49/172/3763092 Fax: +49/37296/15056 e-mail: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (NeXT-Mail/MIME) *****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Re: I love my NeXT but I love my Mac more In-Reply-To: lwallyci@onramp.net's message of Wed, 09 Aug 1995 03:11:44 -0600 Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Aug9172719@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <lwallyci-0908950311440001@dal13.onramp.net> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:27:19 GMT >>>>> "Leslie" == Leslie Connally <lwallyci@onramp.net> writes: Leslie> This was recently posted in .marketplace, and I just had Leslie> to comment: >> it is a very unique system (1 of 5), and the ppp software >> /MorningStarPPP/ (which won't crash your machine like certain >> pd versions i could mention) costs $795. Leslie> But my MacPPP is budget shareware and has NeVER crashed my Leslie> mac-hine! Leslie> then: >> the nitro daughtercard: 40MHz 68040 custom cache control asic >> 128KB synch-burst 4-way interleave secondary cache Leslie> And isn't this just a fancy DayStar accellerator board?? Leslie> I love my NeXT(s) but it is times like these I wonder! Leslie> Les Leslie> RE: 21" color monitor 32MB RAM 1.7GB Micropolis 2217 HD Leslie> ADB keyboard and mouse TTYDSP (use the DSP port as a 128Kb Leslie> serial port) MorningStar PPP (and i will get it configured Leslie> for you) 3.3 user and 3.2 developer >> best offer over $3500, and the first $4000 takes it. The pd ppp2.2 never crashed my machine. I use it a least 5 hours a day on 28k connection. I can't suffer mac user interface, I just hate it. Though I can agree on one point: software for NeXTSTEP is rare. But when you compare similar apps on mac and NeXTSTEP the one on NeXTSTEP surely wins on every point. Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: paul.coates@illusion.com (PAUL COATES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Computer Giveaway Message-ID: <8AED34E.11C0000175.uuout@illusion.com> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 95 14:06:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: Illusions BBS - Penns Grove, NJ - (609)299-2935 Charity BINGO/PowerPC Computer Giveaway !!!!YOU COULD WIN A PowerPC COMPUTER SYSTEM!!!! Now's your chance to get online and into the FAST lane of the Information Super Highway with your own 601 PowerPC based, Macintosh/DOS/Widows Compatable, computer system or one of 15 second and third prizes. The Chester Grant Fund for Children, CGFFC, in cooperation with SignatureWare Software and GFX News, is holding it's first ever PowerPC Computer Giveaway and Charity BINGO. Proceeds to benefit CGFFC. CGFFC is a not for profit organization dedicated to helping prevent the many tragedies facing the children in our world such as poverty, abuse, neglect, exploitation, and disease. You can help CGFFC meet it's 1995 goals and receive a chance to win your own 601 PowerPC based, Macintosh/DOS/Widows Compatable, computer system or one of 15 other prizes. (No Donation Required to Enter and Win. See Official Rules.) In addition, entrants who donate $25, $50, $100 or more will receive special thank you gifts from CGFFC and SignatureWare Software. These people can use and wear these gifts with pride, every day, as the gifts announce the donor+s support for CGFFC. --- Prizes: 1) One entry will win a complete 601 PowerPC based, Macintosh/DOS/Widows Compatable, computer system. 2) Five entries will win a 4x CDROM and 3 educational CDROM Titles complete with software for their existing computer systems. 3) Ten entries will win a high speed 28.8k Fax/Data modem complete with software for their existing computer systems. Supporting Gifts: Each entrant who donates to the Chester Grant Fund for Children by completing the 'Donations' section of the entry form and including the amount of their money order will receive the following 'Thank You' gifts for their donations as follows: a) $25 or more receives a 11 oz. coffee mug in White Porcelain with the words 'I helped the Children' and the SignatureWare Software Logo. b) $50 or more receives the above and a stylish, extra large, white, pocket-T shirt with the SignatureWare Software Logo on the breast pocket and the words 'I helped the Children' along with the CGFFC Logo on the back. c) $100 or more receives all of the above and a Classic, extra large, white sweat shirt with the SignatureWare Software Logo on the front and the words 'I helped the Children' along with the CGFFC Logo on the back. --- How to Enter: To receive an official entry and donation form, along with the official rules: By WWW: Point your WWW browser at: HTTP://www.rpi.edu/~hsiaoe By mail: Send your name and complete address to: ENTRY FORM REQUEST, P.O. Box 181, Belmawr, NJ 08099-0181. Please include a donation of one dollar ($1 US) to cover duplication and mailing costs. (No Donation Required to Enter and Win. See Official Rules.) ATTN comp.sys.next.misc Moderator: To remove your group from this Mass Post, Send a polite Email to: [admin@illusion.com] or Write: CGFFC, c/o Paul Coates, 35B Baird Ave, Paulsboro, NJ, 08066 CGFFC is a Registered Non-Stock, Non-profit Organization.
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to extract afm info? Date: 9 Aug 1995 22:36:57 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <40bda9$ckm@masala.cc.uh.edu> Keywords: mac, fonts, convert, next Okay, I downloaded a ton of Type 1 PS fonts from a mac archive and I have sucessfully converted all the fonts over to NEXTSTEP if they had both the binary and the AFM file. However, some fonts lack the AFM information as it is also part of the resource fork of the binary. Well, I grabbed this neat program called MacFont1.2 and it is supposed to create the AFM info from the FOND resource in the binary. Well, the utility can't find metrics or bitmaps in the resource. Anyone got a better utility to extract the metrics from the resource file? Or you have any ideas on how I can ensure that the resource fork of the mac binary file is transfered over? What I am doing now is to use Fetch (ftp client on the Mac) to ftp the files over in MacBinary format. I have another utility called mfrc that according to the blurb: "Entitled "mfrc", for Macintosh Font Resource Converter, it takes Type 1 PostScript fonts and produces a version usable by the NeXT. This utility is working fine, and it says it works on the resource forks, therefore I believe that I am getting to the next intact... Any ideas??? -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * <URL:http://www.egr.uh.edu/~sears/> Engineering Computing Center * SSI Diving Certification #755020059 NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime." ******* I do not represent the University of Houston *********
From: faizel@borg (Faizel Dakri) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Parity memory in an '040 cube?? Date: 10 Aug 1995 02:50:06 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <40bs4u$j5v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Has anybody had problems putting parity memory into a cube (ROM 2.5 v66)? My machine seems to die with that blasted Exception #2 when I've got parity mode SIMMs (70ns), and then I can't boot up until I take them out and put in the original 1 Meg SIMMs(100ns) without parity. It's really annoying. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Or, if you've got a need for parity mode SIMMs and you've got extra non-parity SIMMs and you want to trade, please let me know. Thanks, ..faizel -- Faizel Dakri faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*) faizel_dakri@pencom.com
Date: 10 Aug 1995 14:58:23 GMT From: paul.coates@illusion.com (PAUL COATES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.8AED34E.11C0000175.uuout@illusion.com> Control: cancel <8AED34E.11C0000175.uuout@illusion.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <8AED34E.11C0000175.uuout@illusion.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950810.01 for further details
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted: Large NeXT logo Date: 10 Aug 1995 17:49:55 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <40dgs3$7u0@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <DD0rt7.3J3@waldo.com> Matthew Hocker (hocker@waldo.com) wrote: : ... for background on a 1024x768 Windows 95 machine. Hey, I only do this to : eat; I need something to cheer me up at work... Send me e-mail if you still need it and can send you a PostScript version. Then you can blow it up to any size you want. Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <hby@fnbc.com> Message-ID: <199508101619.LAA17364@tnd194> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "H. Bret Young" <hby@fnbc.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 11:19:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Webster booboo Try looking up 'lasy' in Webster. I found this by mistake when I misspelled 'lazy'. Actually, you can drop the 'y' and just type 'las' to see the same thing. Bret --- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | H. Bret Young | hby@fnbc.com (NeXTmail, MIME) | | First National Bank of Chicago | (312) 732-1702 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | If chance be the Father of all flesh, disaster is his rainbow in the | | sky, and when you hear State of Emergency! Sniper Kills Ten! Troops | | on Rampage! Whites Go Looting! Bomb Blasts School! It is but the | | sound of man worshipping his maker. -- Steve Turner | +--------< If an opinion snuck in here, it was most likely mine >-------+
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Usenet article download Date: 10 Aug 1995 18:21:56 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <40dio4$rak@www.its.com> References: <405eqj$j6b@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: > I have a need to monitor a large set of USENET groups. I would like a > tool that will automatically download the new articles (once or twice > a day) and allow me to run them through a filter. Are there any tools > available that would give me such a capability? INN (InterNetNews) certainly can. Of course, you need enough spool space to handle the size of the newsgroups you wish to look at, and you need to find an incoming newsfeed, probably from your service provider. If you have a good purpose, you might even be able to convince your ISP to run your program on their feed for you. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 10 Aug 1995 20:38:34 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> References: <nntpuserDD09ts.BK8@netcom.com> This thing works great! I'm really impressed. .................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: boards@nosc.mil (Stephen Board) Subject: Any good loan amortization programs out there? Message-ID: <1995Aug10.184954.1547@nosc.mil> Keywords: loan, amortization Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 18:49:54 GMT Hello World, Does anyone know of any good NS-Based loan amortization programs out on the net? If so, please let me know. Thanks Stephen boards@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Webster booboo Message-ID: <cdoutyDD452t.1v3@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <199508101619.LAA17364@tnd194> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 21:01:40 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom17.netcom.com Actually, my favorite Webster booboo is "spam." Try looking up the word "spam" on your system. I get a major screwup. --->spam<--- Correction? springfieldtechnicalcommcspring Christov -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Parity memory in an '040 cube?? Date: 10 Aug 1995 21:54:36 GMT Organization: A Big, Black Box. Message-ID: <40dv6s$9bb@nnrp3.primenet.com> References: <40bs4u$j5v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> faizel@borg (Faizel Dakri) wrote: > Has anybody had problems putting parity memory into a cube (ROM 2.5 v66)? My machine seems to die with that blasted Exception #2 when I've got parity mode SIMMs (70ns), and then I can't boot up until I take them out and put in the original 1 Meg SIMMs(100ns) without parity. It's really annoying. > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Or, if you've got a need for parity mode SIMMs and you've got extra non-parity SIMMs and you want to trade, please let me know. What ROM version are you running? I have ROM monitor v2.6 on ROM ver .66 and got exeptions until I put the parity simms (4x9) before the non-parity simms (1x8) (in slots 0-3) and the non parity simms (on slots 4-11). Additionally, I turned off the parity check. If you have an older Bios, a replacement can be ordered from Bell Atlantic. -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: katherin@scali.midcom.com (Katherine Rudolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Objective C programmer needed (recruiter) Date: 11 Aug 1995 00:11:59 GMT Organization: MIDCOM Corporation Message-ID: <40e78f$kbc@liberty.liberty.com> Summary: 4 month contract in Anaheim Keywords: Objective C, C++, OOP, NextStep Position available for Objective C or C++ programmer. Software project is large (1 million lines), multi-platform (VMS and Unix), and the majority of the code is written in Objective C. Qualified applicants must have OOP experience using eithe Objective C or C++ and experience in programming mission critical applications. Experience with Unix and NextStep is preferred. -- MIDCOM Corporation | MIDCOM specializes in contract programming, 4175 E. La Palma Ave., Ste. 200 | engineering and technical services. (Agency) Anaheim, CA 92807 | DISCLAIMER: Any opinion expressed is my own (714)579-3000 (714)961-1767 Fax | and is not necessarily that of MIDCOM Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Message-ID: <1995Aug10.204506.2137@precipice.fdn.fr> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <40ak0h$cks@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 20:45:06 GMT In article <40ak0h$cks@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) writes: > It uses any Type1, Type3 and Multiple Master Type1 font in the > file or on the system, but TrueType and unknonwn fonts are So you got MM fonts working on NS... I know that the DPS support it but how to talk to the DPS about it... If you done that, you can implement (or tell us how to implement) an hacked font panel that support MM font usage... PS : when you say it uses MM font, you mean for substitution only or for instance font creation also ? Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Just the FAQs... Date: 11 Aug 1995 05:36:46 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <40eq9e$3gi@news4.digex.net> Hi all, Can anyone tell me where I can get the latest/greatest set of NeXT FAQs? The stepwise site just has a blurb about mouse replacement and no more. Were is the complete set being housed, my set is about 1 year old and needs updating. Thank you, -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 11 Aug 1995 08:48:00 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <40f5g0$m3i@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <1995Aug10.204506.2137@precipice.fdn.fr> In article <1995Aug10.204506.2137@precipice.fdn.fr> neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) writes: > In article <40ak0h$cks@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> > droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) writes: > > > It uses any Type1, Type3 and Multiple Master Type1 font in the > > file or on the system, but TrueType and unknonwn fonts are > > So you got MM fonts working on NS... I know that the DPS support it but > how to talk to the DPS about it... That's easy, Scott Byer posted an elegant way some weeks ago: First you do a "findfont" for the native MM font, as this establishs a new findfont operator (embedded in the font file) to handle extended font names for different MM font instances: /MyriadMM findfont This is roughly equivalent to "(.../Fonts/MyriadMM.font/MyriadMM) run". It is only needed once in a PS job. Now you can use the extended font name to create instances: /MyriadMM_650_300_ findfont 12 scalefont setfont ... > If you done that, you can implement (or tell us how to implement) an hacked > font panel that support MM font usage... Sorry - I can't. Maybe it's possible, but I didn't try that as I don't need it for the viewer. > PS : when you say it uses MM font, you mean for substitution only or for > instance font creation also ? It's the other way round: instance creation is simple (see above), font substitution is difficult (and not yet implemented !!). Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: paul.coates@illusion.com (PAUL COATES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Computer Giveaway Message-ID: <8AEF03A.11C000017F.uuout@illusion.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 00:58:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: Illusions BBS - Penns Grove, NJ - (609)299-2935 Charity BINGO/PowerPC Computer Giveaway !!!!YOU COULD WIN A PowerPC COMPUTER SYSTEM!!!! Now's your chance to get online and into the FAST lane of the Information Super Highway with your own 601 PowerPC based, Macintosh/DOS/Widows Compatable, computer system or one of 15 second and third prizes. The Chester Grant Fund for Children, CGFFC, in cooperation with SignatureWare Software and GFX News, is holding its first ever PowerPC Computer Giveaway and Charity BINGO. Proceeds to benefit CGFFC. CGFFC is a not for profit organization dedicated to helping prevent the many tragedies facing the children in our world such as poverty, abuse, neglect, exploitation, and disease. --- How to Enter: To receive an official entry and donation form, along with the official rules: By WWW: Point your WWW browser at: HTTP://www.rpi.edu/~hsiaoe By mail: Send your name and complete address to: ENTRY FORM REQUEST, P.O. Box 181, Belmawr, NJ 08099-0181. Please include a donation of one dollar ($1 US) to cover duplication and mailing costs. (No Donation Required to Enter and Win. See Official Rules.) ATTN comp.sys.next.misc Moderator: To remove your group from this Mass Post, Send a polite Email to: [admin@illusion.com] or Write: CGFFC, c/o Paul Coates, 35B Baird Ave, Paulsboro, NJ, 08066 CGFFC is a Registered Non-Stock, Non-profit Organization.
From: Gerald Wildgruber Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Stubborn Assignement of Icons to Document Types ?? Date: 11 Aug 1995 14:17:35 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <40fopv$b5e@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello everybody, running NeXTStep 3.3 on Intel Architecture I met the following problem: what is it for an obscure instance to decide which Application Icon is assigned to a particular document type in the Workspace Manager ? All my html Documents appear under the Icon of an appication that left my computer already long ago; the html documents are opened correctly by OmniWeb, but they always appear with the Icon of eText, I installed some month before. The problem is not to link document types and applications, but only the stubborness of some former icons in the WM. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Help would be greatly appreciated. Gerald.
Date: 11 Aug 1995 15:17:48 GMT From: paul.coates@illusion.com (PAUL COATES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.8AEF03A.11C000017F.uuout@illusion.com> Control: cancel <8AEF03A.11C000017F.uuout@illusion.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <8AEF03A.11C000017F.uuout@illusion.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950811.03 for further details
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: Booting from disk2 Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <DD5Hu8.M5J@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 14:34:55 GMT References: <40am1e$c24@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin Hi, William Moyne (wpmoyne@mit.edu) wrote: > Hi, I installed an IDE drive along with my scsi drive that has > nexstep (and a small dos partition) on it. So the arrangment looks like > disk 0: IDE (bootmanager)(dos)(os2)(data)... > disk 1: SCSI (dos)(NeXT) > > I used to have the OS/2 bootmanager on the scsi drive and > everything worked fine (before the IDE was installed). Now even though > the bootmanager on the IDE drive points to the right partition > (i.e. the scsi one) it just says: > Next 3.3.3.8 . > > And freezes. I can manually boot from the floppy by typing: > boot: sd()mach_kernel > I read ref 1487 that documents this very problem! GREAT!!. All > I have to do is make a dummy launch-point on the first drive. but > ... the FAQ says that due to a bug in the disk (unix prog), the dummy > partition must be 7Meg. I HATE to loose disk space for no reason. Has > disk been fixed? Is there another way? > THANKS!!! > --William > p.s. Please Email me if you have a solution or more questions. I want > to eliminate my boot floppy ;) -- you could use my boot manager "O/S Boot Select Version 2.0 Beta8" (os-bs). This boot manager is able to boot from second, third disk etc.. Follow the installation hints from 1487 (that means edit /etc/fstab and /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table appropriatly). But don't create the 7MB partition on the first disk. Instead install os-bs 2.0 Beta8 and add a entry for the NS partition on your second disk to the os-bs boot menu. I've a report that it works successfully for NS 3.3. Probably not for NS 3.2. You can find os-bs here: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~wolf/os-bs.html or if you don't like WWW: ftp://ftp.prz.tu-berlin.de/pub/pc/os-bs/osbsBETA.exe It's a self extracting archive running under DOS. The installation desktop is currently only running under DOS, so you need at least a DOS boot floppy. Please read the README file first. You might notice that the "Reboot into DOS" button disappears in the reboot dialog of NS. It's not really a problem when you have a operating system boot menu anyway, but probably I'll fix this in the final os-bs version. Unlike the OS/2 boot manager os-bs doesn't need a own partition. It can of course also boot OS/2 except in some configurations. But if you run into a problem with OS/2 you can even add a boot menu entry for the OS/2 boot manager which is handled like a (mini) operating system by os-bs. Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
From: fnyman@nova.umuc.edu (Fredrik Nyman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAQs? Date: 11 Aug 1995 12:49:12 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <40g1m8$l8@nova.umuc.edu> What happened to the NeXT FAQs? I can't find them either here or at the usual places (comp.answers, news.answers,UUNET, RTFM...). Thanks, Fredrik -- Fredrik Nyman CACI 1120 G Street NW Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 "The Internet, for the uninitiated, is a collection of computer systems at universities, nonprofit research groups, the federal government, and some obscure businesses--all traditional hotbeds of hip, right?" SPY 8/94
From: fnyman@nova.umuc.edu (Fredrik Nyman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is needed for PPP over Hayes ISDN Extender? Date: 11 Aug 1995 12:50:15 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <40g1o7$pf@nova.umuc.edu> If I want to run PPP over a Hayes ISDN Extender (under NS 3.0 black), what software do I need? Thanks, Fredrik -- Fredrik Nyman CACI 1120 G Street NW Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 "The Internet, for the uninitiated, is a collection of computer systems at universities, nonprofit research groups, the federal government, and some obscure businesses--all traditional hotbeds of hip, right?" SPY 8/94
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP on Intel running Monsterscope with AD64X ?? Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:45:57 GMT Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Message-ID: <40g1g5$a4c@saims.skidmore.edu> Keywords: Monsterscope, DSP Anybody using Intel Nextstep: can you run monsterscope ? Has anybody successfully run Monsterscope on Intel hardware using a DSP input device like the AD64X ?? Anybody doing any development work with the MusicKit on Intel using the DSP (motorola 56001) of some sound card ??? Thanks for any response A. Holland Skidmore College
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel suppliers for Nextstep ? Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:52:19 GMT Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Message-ID: <40g1s3$a57@saims.skidmore.edu> Keywords: Intel suppliers I'm looking for a list of suppliers for NeXTSTEP Intel configs. Thanks for any pointers. A. Holland Skidmore College
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stubborn Assignement of Icons to Document Types ?? Date: 11 Aug 1995 23:00:49 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <40gnf1$93s@news4.digex.net> References: <40fopv$b5e@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Gerald Wildgruber wrote: > running NeXTStep 3.3 on Intel Architecture I met the following > problem: what is it for an obscure instance to decide which > Application Icon is assigned to a particular document type in > the Workspace Manager ? All my html Documents appear under the > Icon of an appication that left my computer already long ago; > the html documents are opened correctly by OmniWeb, but they > always appear with the Icon of eText, I installed some month > before. The problem is not to link document types and applications, > but only the stubborness of some former icons in the WM. Does > anyone know how to fix this ? Help would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has the answer to this, please post it to the net, inquiring minds want to know. NeXT should really 'fix' this 'problem.' We already have default app bundle for the WMinspector. All that has to be done, is use the icons of whatever the default app is (unless there is already some way to do this that I'm unaware of...). -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP on UltraSparc Date: 12 Aug 1995 02:25:17 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <40h3ed$go6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Sun's white papers on the UltraSparc make for interesting reading. With the integrated multimedia support, it sounds as if they were designed with something of the vision that animated the original Cubes and Stations. Any thoughts as to whether NEXTSTEP for Sparc, OPENSTEP/Solaris or third party apps will be able to benefit from the design? Does this mean that accelerated 24bit color without the expense of a pricey graphics card is just around the corner, or would software have to be written with the new instruction set in mind (and is there any chance of THAT)? For that matter, how do the OS and third party apps take advantage of a graphics card on Intel, Sun and HP workstations? Forgive my naivete. But I would really appreciate it if someone could explain these deeper mysteries of life. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HERE IT IS: large NeXT logo (EPS-file) Date: 12 Aug 1995 03:27:56 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <40h73s$b3n@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Hi LOGO O V ERS, Recently there was a request for a large NeXT logo. I got one from the net long time ago in EPS format. I had to modify it a little and with the end-result, you can create a logo in any size you like. Willem ----------------------- %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 720 720 108 36 translate 10 dup scale 0.4 setlinewidth 1 setgray % % fill box black % newpath 14.96 0.9075 moveto 0.103 28.8195 lineto 2.827 46.2235 lineto 3.003 47.6385 lineto 34.558 64.4415 lineto 51.397 32.8165 lineto 50.902 31.5785 lineto 45.171 15.8005 lineto 15.597 0.0585 lineto closepath 0 setgray fill % grestore % % Outline % 1 setgray gsave newpath 14.96 0.9075 moveto 0.103 28.8195 lineto 2.827 46.2235 lineto 3.003 47.6385 lineto 34.558 64.4415 lineto 51.397 32.8165 lineto 50.902 31.5785 lineto 45.171 15.8005 lineto 15.597 0.0585 lineto closepath stroke grestore % % top face % 51.397 32.8165 moveto 19.807 16.0485 lineto 3.003 47.6385 lineto stroke % % left side % 19.807 16.0485 moveto 15.597 0.0585 lineto stroke % % "N" % 1 .125 0 setrgbcolor newpath 16.481 52.8035 moveto 18.179 53.6875 lineto 25.467 39.9975 lineto 9.725 43.9955 lineto 14.677 34.6915 lineto 12.767 33.7005 lineto 5.621 47.1085 lineto 21.646 43.0395 lineto % 16.481 52.8035 lineto closepath fill % % "e" % 1 1 0 setrgbcolor newpath 37.473 55.1455 moveto 35.53 59.0425 30.596 60.6925 26.74 58.6405 curveto 23.026 56.6595 21.434 51.6715 23.45 47.8865 curveto 25.467 44.1015 30.349 42.4735 34.204 44.4905 curveto 37.211 46.0825 38.697 49.2655 38.379 52.3795 curveto 36.398 52.2025 lineto 36.751 49.7965 35.619 47.3205 33.355 46.1175 curveto 30.632 44.6675 26.811 45.9765 25.361 48.6995 curveto 37.473 55.1455 lineto closepath fill 0 setgray % % hole in "e" % newpath 27.519 57.1195 moveto 25.113 55.8105 23.946 52.6265 24.618 50.3625 curveto 34.664 55.7045 lineto 34.664 55.7045 lineto 33.073 57.6855 29.924 58.3575 27.519 57.1195 curveto closepath fill 0 1 0 setrgbcolor % % "X" % newpath 19.984 19.1965 moveto 21.894 18.6665 lineto 24.476 27.4045 lineto 33.462 24.8215 lineto 33.992 26.7315 lineto 25.007 29.3145 lineto 27.483 37.8045 lineto 25.573 38.3345 lineto 23.097 29.8445 lineto 14.288 32.3915 lineto 13.722 30.4815 lineto 22.566 27.9345 lineto 19.984 19.1965 lineto closepath fill % % "T" % 1 0 1 setrgbcolor newpath 41.669 46.5425 moveto 28.403 39.5375 lineto 29.252 37.9105 lineto 35.053 40.9885 lineto 41.244 29.3855 lineto 42.978 30.3045 lineto 36.787 41.9075 lineto 42.518 44.9505 lineto 41.669 46.5425 lineto closepath fill %%EOF --------------------- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: OPENSTEP DAY FINALE -- nugiFEST party celebrates the day!!!! Message-ID: <DD6ABA.3Mo@califhistsoc.org> Keywords: fun, celebration, community... Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 00:49:58 GMT Following the precedent of the legendary Stone Design Rave (but not attempting to imitate it), the nugiFEST gathering will offer the opportunity for corporate/end users to gather and experience a sense of community along with vendors and corporate sponsors of the event. nugi is hosting the event with the special sponsorship of BaNG! and additional user group sponsorship from SCaN. Vendors helping to sponsor the event include: Stone Design Netsurfer Berkeley Productivity Group The party will be held at ANNIE's, which is located at 20 Annie Street, just behind the Palace Hotel near the Moscone Center, site of OpenStep Day and Object World. The exact location is easily located between Market and Mission Streets, between Third Street and New Montgomery Street.There will be a no-host bar, food and music by the Swing Allstars from 7:30 - 11 PM. We expect to see you all between 7 pm and midnight this coming Monday!!! Be there or be QUAD-Square!!! Robert MacKimmie nugiFEST partymeister RM@califhistsoc.org 415-346-6398 for info.
From: Mike Harris <booknet@rmharris.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IOmega ZIP between DOS PCs and NeXT? Date: 12 Aug 1995 18:56:20 GMT Organization: booknet/rmharris_ltd Message-ID: <40itgk$qso@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have an IOmega Zip drive on my NeXT Cube (3.2). It works great as a replacement for the (defunct) old optical drive and makes a nice backup as advertised. For some reason, however, it will not read DOS parallel port Zip discs. Since NeXT reads DOS floppies and CDs, and purportedly reads optical and tape media from DOS PCs, I am somewhat surprised (and disappointed) that the same cross platform capability does not appear with the Zip -- which is afte rall just another removable medium. Does anyone have experience with this? Is this an inherent problem with the Zip formats (ie, between parallel and SCSI)? Or is there a missing NeXT driver (the DOS radio button is grayed out in the format window, for example, but NeXT and Mac are available)? ************************************************************************ *** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-5431 e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org, rmharris@clark.net ** http://www.abaa-booknet.com/ The Antiquarian Booksellers Web Site **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: IOmega ZIP between DOS PCs and NeXT? Message-ID: <jpanicoDD82tq.MKy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <40itgk$qso@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 00:03:26 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom2.netcom.com Mike Harris (booknet@rmharris.com) wrote: : I have an IOmega Zip drive on my NeXT Cube (3.2). It works great as a replacement for the (defunct) : old optical drive and makes a nice backup as advertised. For some reason, however, it will not read : DOS parallel port Zip discs. Since NeXT reads DOS floppies and CDs, and purportedly reads optical and tape I transfer zip dos formatted disks between dos and NS 3.3 Intel all the time, without problem. This is going from one scsi drive to another scsi drive. -- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: Sitaram Ramaswamy <vu2gmc@navier.ucsb.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Syquest Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:16:10 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Message-ID: <40jg8a$eq8@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> References: <3v9991$c2q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT) wrote: > > Syquest has released a better ZIP drive real access time and larger > storage I am thinking of getting one for our Mac NeXT graphic dept > Has anyone had any experience connecting one to a NEXT or with one period It's the Syquest EZ135 drive . ZIP Drive is a Iomega product (copyrighted name ?) 29ms acess time 100MB $199 list (down to $179 according to unconfirmed reports ) Sturdy. Uses bernoulli technology and generally out of stock (2-3wks waiting period -- high demand seems to be easing up though) $19.99 cost per floppy ( a 10 pack costs $150 , 3pack $50 ) EZ135 is faster has 25-35 Megs more costs $235 . $25 (list) platter costs. 13ms access time (dont' remember avg transf rate higher than zip's) Heavier and larger than zip. More a SOHO than a portable solution. Reports have it that the platters are the "Okay" side of a rejected 2-sided 270MB syquest platter. ( Maybe that's why it the EZ 135 eh ? ).
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ? backup NEXTSTEP files to sun tape drive ? Date: 9 Aug 95 14:48:26 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Aug9144826@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> I have an Archive Python 4mm/2GB tape drive for a sparc/sunos4.1.3 system. Can I backup NEXTSTEP/intel 3.3 files through network to the tape-drive? Or, would this scsi tape drive work with NEXTSTEP/intel 3.3 also, if I connect it to the NEXTSTEP system? Thanks, zhao
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: where is that disk tiff? Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 22:50:31 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950812224851.10525D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've looked but cannot find where the default tiff is which the WM uses when you load a disk in.... it seems a shame to have a special icon for DOS and MAC, but not our own beloved NeXTDisks. any clues? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: jeff@econ.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Ely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP and X Date: 13 Aug 1995 06:19:53 GMT Organization: Is a fine idea Message-ID: <40k5i9$1a8@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Is it possible to export the display on a NeXTSTEP box to an X server? Jeff
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is that disk tiff? Date: 13 Aug 1995 12:38:49 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <40krop$doq@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950812224851.10525D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > I've looked but cannot find where the default tiff is which the WM uses > when you load a disk in.... it seems a shame to have a special icon for > DOS and MAC, but not our own beloved NeXTDisks. But NeXT discs are the default, they don't need a special icon ;-) Are you looking for /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/winchester.tiff ? Y.
From: dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dutch NeXT Company Date: 13 Aug 1995 18:26:04 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <40lg3s$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 From dazevedo@telepac.pt Sun 13 Aug 95 18:52:24 Path: news.telepac.pt!usenet From: dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Dutch NeXT Company Date: 13 Aug 1995 18:04:12 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 3 Message-ID: <40leqs$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: lis3_p12.telepac.pt Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.10 Does any one know the name and fax number of the Dutch Company, that are saling Next equipment and components?
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ? backup NEXTSTEP files to sun tape drive ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 13 Aug 1995 17:54:54 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <40le9e$6df@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <ZHAO.95Aug9144826@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Z. Zhao (zhao@crl.nmsu.edu) wrote: : I have an Archive Python 4mm/2GB tape drive for a sparc/sunos4.1.3 : system. Can I backup NEXTSTEP/intel 3.3 files through network to the : tape-drive? Or, would this scsi tape drive work with NEXTSTEP/intel : 3.3 also, if I connect it to the NEXTSTEP system? Both should be possible. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Stuff for Sale! Date: 13 Aug 1995 19:10:54 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <40linu$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 From dazevedo@telepac.pt Sun 13 Aug 95 19:45:06 Path: news.telepac.pt!usenet From: dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Stuff for Sale! Date: 13 Aug 1995 19:06:43 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 4 Message-ID: <40lig3$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: lis3_p12.telepac.pt Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.10 Brand New NeXT Equipment for sale. Please contact! Cubes, printers, monitors, stations, single boards and so...
From: rsilver@panix.com(Russell Adam Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: internal scsi harddrive Date: 13 Aug 1995 19:18:06 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <40lj5e$qm2@news1.panix.com> Keywords: scsi OK. So I got this nice 1.3 gig scsi hard disk, but it comes without a casing. I got the slot in my machine, so I try. No go. I presume there is some kind of conflict with the IDE which has the O/S and everything else on it now. Is there some way to resolve this conflict ? All the next docu speak only of external drives, but why should it make a difference to the driver ? Either way it is communicating with a card thru a standard bus, why should the driver care where you have it plugged in ? BTW, NS/fip 3.2, adaptec blah-blah-blah CF, SCSI-2 disk. I am DOS free on this machine (it feels beter that way), so any solutions which include DOS you can forget. I know the disk is function. It is at ID 0. Any ideas ? --thanks, RS
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is that disk tiff? Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:44:59 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950813144009.11403A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950812224851.10525D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <40krop$doq@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40krop$doq@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> my apologies for being vague... What I meant was for _floppy_ disks (well, actually for 3.5 which aren't actually 'floppy' but that's another post ;-) when I put in a Dumb Operating System disk it comes up as a little floopy disk with 'DOS' written across it, and MAC disks have a little Apple or something, so I wanted disks formatted for NeXTStep to have their own icon anyone know where the default floppy disk icon can be found? it is probably obvious, but I'm oblivious... make mine NeXTStep, TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." On 13 Aug 1995, Marc Guenther wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > > > I've looked but cannot find where the default tiff is which the WM uses > > when you load a disk in.... it seems a shame to have a special icon for > > DOS and MAC, but not our own beloved NeXTDisks. > > But NeXT discs are the default, they don't need a special icon ;-) > > Are you looking for /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/winchester.tiff > ? > > Y. > >
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: dialin through DOS causing problems Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:58:01 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950813155440.11679A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII setup: My NeXT --> modem --> dial to Novell network --> select 'telnet' --> telnet to capitalist.princeton.edu problem: when I get to capitalist.princeton.edu, CONTROL-C does nothing but beep. Control-Z works fine. any ideas why this happens and what I can do to fix/workaround it? (I'm using 3.2 on black hardware) Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ? backup NEXTSTEP files to sun tape drive ? Date: 13 Aug 1995 21:06:10 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <40lpg2$s4@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <ZHAO.95Aug9144826@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> In article <ZHAO.95Aug9144826@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: |>I have an Archive Python 4mm/2GB tape drive for a sparc/sunos4.1.3 |>system. Can I backup NEXTSTEP/intel 3.3 files through network to the |>tape-drive? Or, would this scsi tape drive work with NEXTSTEP/intel |>3.3 also, if I connect it to the NEXTSTEP system? |> |>Thanks, |> |> zhao Hi, I m currently using an Archive Python 4GB DAT on my black NeXT, works like a charm... Best regards Michael -- ___________________________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! ColorSupport Manager Rank Xerox Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:15:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <40mikg$ecj@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: PDFviewer only opens documents when it is in toolbar! Message-ID: <DDA683.33A@waldo.com> Sender: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Organization: The WaldoNet Group Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 03:12:02 GMT First off, I'd like to point out how good PDFviewer is for a beta. I use it almost daily to get the NY Times news. However, I have run into a little problem. It seems that it is only able to open those documents (*.pdf) when the app is installed in the toolbar. This is evidenced by the way that when I remove PDFviewer from the toolbar, all .pdf files immediately lose their icon and revert to the standard "text file" icon. Is there a way around this? I need those precious toolbar slots! Thanks Matt -- __ Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) BMW.--. /\_\ "Believer in all things well-engineered" /XX \ \/_/ hocker@waldo.com \ XX/ NeXTSTEP! NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here `--'325ic
From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on UltraSparc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 14 Aug 1995 10:44:57 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <40n9f9$flf@tempest.symnet.net> References: <40h3ed$go6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Nextstep doesn't use the coprocessors available on current graphics cards. It relies on the CPU and a highly optimized DPS engine. The ultrasparc will make video performance very quick, as long as the CPU to memory interface is good too. Dru
From: borrel@abdallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Sound freezes my Cube Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:40:21 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Message-ID: <40ncn6$399@fenris.hiof.no> Coming back from vacation, I discovered that my Dimensions Cube had died. The hardware daignostisc stopped at "sound out" during the startup process. After disabling the sound out test in the monitor, the machine does boot, but any attempt to make sound causes it to freeze completely. How do I go about disabling sound completely so I can use the machine - or better yet, what has gone wrong and does one fix it? (Mail answers appreciated!) - Barre Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel finger: borrel@abdallah.hiof.no
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDFviewer only opens documents when it is in toolbar! Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:46:22 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <40nd2e$71r@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <DDA683.33A@waldo.com> In article <DDA683.33A@waldo.com> hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) writes: > First off, I'd like to point out how good PDFviewer is for a beta. I use it > almost daily to get the NY Times news. Thanks ! > However, I have run into a little problem. It seems that it is only able to > open those documents (*.pdf) when the app is installed in the toolbar. This is > evidenced by the way that when I remove PDFviewer from the toolbar, all .pdf > files immediately lose their icon and revert to the standard "text file" icon. > > Is there a way around this? I need those precious toolbar slots! Applications are registered for file extensions by the workspace manager when they appear in one of the "usual" application directories. Those are scanned at login. You should install the program in one of these - in your case probably ~/Apps (your home directory's Apps folder) or, if others want to share it on the same machine, in /LocalApps. Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: kjones@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need cs.orst.edu address for submission query Date: 15 Aug 1995 02:33:48 GMT Organization: Vancouver Regional FreeNet Message-ID: <40p12c$23v@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> Does anyone have an email address for the cs.orst.edu ftp archive site administrator? I submitted a 3D modeling app to the /pub/incoming directory there and would like to find out when the app might be moved to the /submissions directory. Any help would be much appreciated. Kieran Jones
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: The "stability" of Fiend version 1.3 (longish) Date: 15 Aug 1995 10:26:53 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <40qard$sdk@panix.com> Hi. I have been loosely following the discussion concerning Fiend in the various newsgroups, and thought some info might be useful. Some people are probably wondering why one group of people seem to have the opinion that "Fiend is as stable as Netscape's stock price" (amusing quote of the year for the c.s.n groups, in my opinion), while others vehemently protest, insisting that it is as stable as a rock. There are in fact two completely repeatable ways to crash Fiend v1.3. One is due to a very stupid bug that I left in the release distribution, even though I fixed my own copy months ago. To wit - If you launch an application from the command line like this: unix> MyApp & then Fiend v1.3 will die when the app terminates. If you launch it like this: unix> ./MyApp & then Fiend will be fine. Obviously, people who don't launch from the command line, or people who use fully qualified paths on the command line, never see this problem. The mistake I made was in assuming that app delegate messages sent by the Workspace would always contain an absolute path. As many people subsequently discovered, this is not the case, and when there is no forward slash in the path returned by the Workspace, a section of code in Fiend v1.3 winds up dereferencing a null pointer. I would like to apologize to anyone who has been unduly inconvenienced by this bug. Once I got married, I found a lot less time to work on Fiend, and since my copy was working, and there was a simple workaround, it didn't seem to be a high priority. The other is, if you delete a Fiend Dock level with persistent icons on it, Fiend will crash. The only workaround is to make sure that any icons attached to a given level are not persistent. In any case, both of these bugs are fixed in the coming release of Fiend, which will be out within two weeks. Finally, as some people have already pointed out, Fiend is in fact the _only_ dock extender, commercial or otherwise (that I know of) that is capable of showing the animation of absolutely _every_ animated app icon. That people thought this was not the case is obviously due to a flaw in my documentation. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com PS - not that anyone cares what my opinion is, but Jayson bashing is getting a little (a lot) OLD.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis) Subject: Re: Dutch NeXT Company Message-ID: <miked-150895173608@192.42.172.89> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@inter.NL.net (News at news) Organization: ITT Publitec bv References: <40lg3s$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:36:08 GMT In article <40lg3s$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt>, dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) wrote: > From dazevedo@telepac.pt Sun 13 Aug 95 18:52:24 > Path: news.telepac.pt!usenet > From: dazevedo@telepac.pt (DAzevedo) > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer > Subject: Dutch NeXT Company > Date: 13 Aug 1995 18:04:12 GMT > Organization: Your Organization > Lines: 3 > Message-ID: <40leqs$4rn@vivaldi.telepac.pt> > NNTP-Posting-Host: lis3_p12.telepac.pt > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.10 > > Does any one know the name and fax number of the Dutch Company, that are > saling Next equipment and components? Try IC Group at: Rivium Quadrant 81, 2909 LC Capelle a/d Ijssel Tel: +31 10 447 15 00 Fax: +31 10 447 00 99 e-mail: info@icgned.nl or crapplelink: hol0514 There are a few more folks here but I guess these guys'll do. -- fprintf( stderr, "Hello World\n" ); --
From: "Paul F. Bergen" <bergen@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: LOST HARDWARE PASSWD Date: 15 Aug 1995 21:44:58 GMT Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <40r4gq$6cp@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forgive the cross posting if you read this in sysadmin. I have a NeXTstation which needs to have fsck run before it can reboot. However, someone set a hardware password and no one knows what it is. Any suggestions on recovering from a lost hardware password? Thanks! -- Paul
From: fastfoxk@aol.com (FastfoxK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Educate me about NeXT Date: 15 Aug 1995 19:29:50 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <40rale$2ki@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Uh, I'm a macuser who knows nothing nothing about NeXT exept that it was started in part by Steve Jobs. Could anybody answer me some questions about NeXT computers? Here goes: 1)What's unique about NeXT? 2)What kind of processors do they run on? 3)What kind of OS do they use? 4)Who are they aimed at (e.g., home, office, mainframe) Please note that I do _not_ want to get into any type of system wars. I'm just an inexperienced dude who's curious. Any help in my quest for knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks. -Kurt -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Listen up, talk softly and wear a big hat... ____ ____/____\_____ /_______________\ [| @ @ |] | > | \ - / \_/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mishelle@thoughtful.com> From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun) Message-ID: <9508152141.AA01227@thoughtful.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:41:15 -0600 Subject: RE: Any good loan amortization programs out there? Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com <boards@nosc.mil (Stephen Board) writes <Hello World, <Does anyone know of any good NS-Based loan amortization programs out on <the net? If so, please let me know. Stephen, An amoritzation program has been created with the HyperSense authoring tool. It will be available via ftp next week. This week at Object World, Thoughtful Software is introducing the HyperSensePlayer, which allows anyone to access interactive multimedia documents and applications created with HyperSense. There will be a nicely formatted loan amortization program available. The HyperSensePlayer will be distributed with a FREE single user license, to enable programs and documents created with HyperSense to be readily distributed. This allows every NEXTSTEP user to access them. Individuals will be able to make full use of the growing repository of freely available HyperSense-based documents and applications. Watch for the announcement next week on comp.sys.next.announce (or send me email if anyone wishes to receive the announcement directly). I hope this is what you're looking for. Mishelle McClure Baun Thoughtful Software mishelle@thoughtful.com
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: how to have modem check if phone is in use Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:17:08 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950815131338.1663D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there anyway I can have my modem check to see if the phone is in use before it tries running 'kermit'? My wife would appreciate it if I would be able to so I don't try to dial the modem while she is on the line ;-) Also, I'd like to have my computer dial-in and download my mail periodically, but again, only if the phone isn't in use. unfortunately I cannot add a second phone jack in my apartment any interesting ideas out there? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: binary to dim screen on m68k running 3.2 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:19:48 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950815131729.1663E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am repeating my periodic request for a binary which I can use on the command line to dim the screen of my NeXT (m68k running 3.2). I have tried the ones in the ..Tools/screen folder on 'peanuts' and none of them seem to work for me. Is anyone out there doing this, and if so, how? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
From: csci565@girtab.usc.edu (Rafael H. Saavedra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which CDROM drive to buy for an Intel 486 (talus) and NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 15 Aug 1995 21:20:11 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: csci565@girtab.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <40rrlr$87q@girtab.usc.edu> Hi, - I have a 486 portable (machine Austin, reseller Talus) running NeXTSTEP 3.2 and I want to upgrade to 3.3. I need a cdrom unit to do this, which currently I don't have. Hence, I want to buy one, preferably one that can be connected to one of the PCMCIA slots (the other alternative is to use one of the docking station's slots (ISA bus)). However, I don't want to buy the cdrom unit and then find out that the drivers don't work with NeXTSTEP 3.3. Any suggestion on how to approach this problem? Thanks. -- rafael
From: bergen@finny.harvard.edu (Paul F. Bergen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adding external SCSI drive Date: 16 Aug 1995 13:08:18 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <40sqk2$d7c@decaxp.harvard.edu> I'm trying to add an external 1GB scsi hard drive to my NeXTstation. I had assumed this would a relatively simple task. I keep getting SCSI errors and system panics whenever I try to boot with the drive attached to the SCSI port. The SCSI ID on the drive is set to 3. The system boots fine when I detach the drive. Any pearls of wisdom for me? I appreciate the help/ -- Paul
From: tt@sophocles.algonet.se (Thomas Thyberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Inkjet printer choice Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 13 Aug 1995 19:57:37 GMT Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Distribution: world Message-ID: <TT.95Aug13215737@sophocles.algonet.se> I'm planning to bue an inkjet printer and software to drive it in black hardware. Anyone out there have any experiencies with Canon BJC600e, Canon BJC4000, HP660C or HP850C using Dots or JetPilot? Thomas Thyberg (tt@algonet.se - NeXT/MIME ok)
From: borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sound freezes my Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 16 Aug 1995 16:02:46 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Message-ID: <40t4r6$cs8@fenris.hiof.no> References: <40ncn6$399@fenris.hiof.no> Nathan Janette at NEXTSTEP & Unix Systems Management and Development Consultant East Haven, CT Internet: nathan@nai.net says: Barre, The L-board in your soundbox (or mono display if you are using it for sound) may have died. That would cause the symptoms you have described. You can contact Bell Atlantic for a replacement. -Nathan and he's right! I changed the Sound Box with one from another machine and now it works. - Barre Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@abdallah) wrote: : Coming back from vacation, I discovered that my Dimensions Cube had : died. The hardware daignostisc stopped at "sound out" during the : startup process. After disabling the sound out test in the monitor, : the : machine does boot, but any attempt to make sound causes it to freeze : completely. : How do I go about disabling sound completely so I can use the machine : - or better yet, what has gone wrong and does one fix it? : (Mail answers appreciated!) : - Barre : Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel : finger: borrel@abdallah.hiof.no -- Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/ludvigsen/ finger: borrel@mashallah.ludvigsen.hiof.no
From: oohm@ix.netcom.com (Raymond Kelly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unrecognized Sybase Server Date: 16 Aug 1995 20:05:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <40tj31$dgv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I can't seem to get my NS 3.2 to find Sybase over ethernet. I worked before but after an update of the Developer's Package it is now blind. If anyone even knows what manual to look in to find the answer, it would really be appreciated. Thanks `[:-}
From: jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com (Jeffrey Alan Macht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Disk Label(s) disappearing? Date: 16 Aug 1995 14:06:47 -0700 Organization: Online at Wimsey Information Services Inc - Vancouver, Canada Message-ID: <40tml7$9n3@vanbc.wimsey.com> I had a somewhat strange thing happen yesterday. I shut down my system, and reboot to go into Windows to do some sequencing, and when I reboot into NS, it says something about the "Disk Label is not Valid" for both my root and User disks. The kernel then panics and I get a continue/reboot prompt. Any ideas why this happened? Now, how do I repair this? I have another disk with a very old root backup installed, so I have access to all necessary programs. I haven't done anything yet, so any thoughts you have now would be helpful. The system: Intel Premiere/PCI II (Pentium 90) motherboard, on-board IDE controllers, two Seagate 504Mb drives (the two that lost the labels), and one Seagate 504Mb (the backup). NS/i 3.2. Thanks for any advice you can offer in advance, Jeff. PS: I'm not ruling out a stupid PC virus, but I haven't checked that yet. -- Jeff Macht (jamacht@wimsey.com) |"Dreams become reality when desire http://www.wimsey.com/~jamacht/ | transforms them into concrete action", NeXT Mail, MIME accepted | Gus, from the film The Top of his Head.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions Subject: kermit, changing modem speed and dialing Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:39:34 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950816133218.12721G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The modem line I use has been upgraded from 9600 to 14.4. I set my modem to 14.4 and 'setenv BAUDRATE 14400' but it still shows up as 9600 when it begins to dial. 1) How can I tell kermit to use a different speed? 2) how can I tell kermit to dial using TONE rather than pulse/rotary? Does any of this have to do with gettytab ?? for the NeXT audience: 3) I am using an older version of kermit compiled for my NeXT (currently using C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT) does anyone have a newer version compiled for m68k (or know where I can get the source and feebly attempt to compile it myself? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lyna@netcom.com (L. Faucett) Subject: FS: NeXt equip -- cheap Message-ID: <lynaDDFIn9.BrH@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:28:21 GMT Sender: lyna@netcom6.netcom.com My company has 2 NeXt Turbo Color computers available for sale. The internal drives are 400mb each. And there is also 1 external drive. The external drive is corrupted but repairable according to the former user (who has since left our company -- hence the need to get rid of the Next computers). The systems have tons of software, and there is a dedicated printer. I don't have the specs readily available but can get the info for serious inquirers. The price is entirely negotiable. If there are no buyers, I would be willing to donate it to a school or a non-profit organization (assuming that they know how to handle a NeXt). Does anyone know of an organization interest in this equipment? Please send e-mail as I don't normally read this group. -- --lyna@netcom.com "Are we there yet????"
From: danno@maui.com (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Re: Display Postscript pages superimposed - Windows/NeXT problem Date: 15 Aug 1995 18:36:59 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center Sender: danno@waena.mrtc.maui.com Message-ID: <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> References: <407l8m$9oh@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Hi, Posted Problem : When PS is from a windows PC program, more than one PS page printed (via NeXT computer) on the same piece of paper... (correct?) What 'werked fer me' (tm) : get the NeXT 'Preview.App' up and use the 'File/Open' menu to explicityly generate the 'file-open' dialog box, where you'll find a check box (NS3.2?) that says 'open in simple mode'. Check this and all may work better. I also have to use 'edit.app' to get rid of the bloody '^D' characters from the beginning of the PC based PS files... sigh... (why do they *do* that?) cheers, --danno
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ssh on 3.2 NEXTSTEP Moto? Message-ID: <1995Aug16.233213.2333@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 16 Aug 95 23:32:13 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Has anyone had any luck building ssh on 3.2 NEXTSTEP Moto? -- kc
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Re: Display Postscript pages superimposed - Windows/NeXT problem Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:23:42 -400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <40vcce$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <407l8m$9oh@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> Dan Bigelow <danno@maui.com> wrote: > I also have to use 'edit.app' to get rid of the bloody '^D' characters from the > beginning of the PC based PS files... sigh... (why do they *do* that?) *.ps files are actually ASCII files. So each line is ended by <CR><NL> characters if created on a PC. On unix the lines have only <NL> at the end. To get rid of the problem use ASCII mode while FTP-ing. There is also a unix command to filter an ascii file to get rid of the <CR> (i.e. ^D)characters, but I don't remember the name. This may actually help you to read the *.ps file into Preview.app without any difficulties. Rudy Blazek student at MSU blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Re: Display Postscript pages superimposed - Windows/NeXT problem Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:39:11 -400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <40vd9f$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <407l8m$9oh@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> <40vcce$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <40vcce$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf Blazek <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote: > In article <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> > Dan Bigelow <danno@maui.com> wrote: > > I also have to use 'edit.app' to get rid of the bloody '^D' characters from > the > > beginning of the PC based PS files... sigh... (why do they *do* that?) > > *.ps files are actually ASCII files. So each line is ended by <CR><NL> > characters if created on a PC. On unix the lines have only <NL> at the end. > > To get rid of the problem use ASCII mode while FTP-ing. There is also a unix > command to filter an ascii file to get rid of the <CR> (i.e. ^D)characters, > but I don't remember the name. > > This may actually help you to read the *.ps file into Preview.app without > any difficulties. Oops <Object Oriented ProgramS> the <CR> is ^M, not ^D. Sorry about this. But the ^D might have a similar origin. (But the EOF should be ^Z, if I remember correctly, so maybe I am completely wrong about the ^D :-((( ) :-)))) Rudy Blazek student at MSU blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: kermit, changing modem speed and dialing Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions Date: 17 Aug 1995 13:11:15 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <40vf5j$h91@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950816133218.12721G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote: : The modem line I use has been upgraded from 9600 to 14.4. : I set my modem to 14.4 and 'setenv BAUDRATE 14400' but it still shows up : as 9600 when it begins to dial. : 1) How can I tell kermit to use a different speed? Try to put set speed 38400 into ~/.kermrc It's not possible to use 14400 as a serial speed on m68k Hardware. : 2) how can I tell kermit to dial using TONE rather than pulse/rotary? Don't know this. Sorry : Does any of this have to do with gettytab ?? No. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Display Postscript pages superimposed - Windows/NeXT problem Message-ID: <DDGILE.E31@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services References: <407l8m$9oh@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <40qpgb$fcm@waena.maui.com> <40vcce$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <40vd9f$oh1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:24:49 GMT The "^D" is DOS for "reset printer". As for the line endings, we have: Unix: ^J (ascii 12) DOS: ^M^J (15,12) MacOS: ^M (15) A command that will remove the "^M"s is tr -d "\015" < dosfile > unixfile see the man page for more. Under NEXTSTEP, TickleServices (available from the archives) is a great way to do this things if you have to do them often. To fix a DOS file, you can also just load it into emacs which will do the conversions and offer to save as a regular file. In my experience, these are minor problems in printing PostScript from various sources -- more important is the low probability that the software producing the PostScript actually produces correct PostScript. For bad files, I have found that Tailor (graphical PostScript editor for NEXTSTEP) often does a good job of fixing them. --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.312.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.312.667-5331 phone (home) +1.312.702-9740 fax
From: hanley@popeye (Mark Hanley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NIL status??? Date: 17 Aug 1995 13:22:23 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin M & S, Sunnyvale, CA Message-ID: <40vfqf$a3t@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> Has anyone gotten the first issue of NIL from the new publishers? I've e-mailed them, but gotten no response yet. Didn't someone say that the next issue was due out in August? Am I jumping the gun? Mark Hanley <hanley@gelac.lasc.lockheed.com>
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FAQs? Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:28:45 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950817162755.8786A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <40g1m8$l8@nova.umuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40g1m8$l8@nova.umuc.edu> On 11 Aug 1995, Fredrik Nyman wrote: > What happened to the NeXT FAQs? I can't find them either here or at > the usual places (comp.answers, news.answers,UUNET, RTFM...). > They get released soon by us. Please stay tuned. Cheers, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Educate me about NeXT Date: 17 Aug 1995 13:07:16 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <40veu4$fba@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <40rale$2ki@newsbf02.news.aol.com> FastfoxK (fastfoxk@aol.com) wrote: : Uh, I'm a macuser who knows nothing nothing about NeXT exept that it was : started in part by Steve Jobs. Could anybody answer me some questions : about NeXT computers? : Here goes: : 1)What's unique about NeXT? It's better than Mac's (sorry, couldn't resist, no holy war meant). Well the important thing is IMO that it combines the user-friendlyness and system wide consistancy of the software, like that of the Mac with the real multi-tasking from Unix. Combined with a large real estate on the desktop, you get a very nice platform. The object-oriented qualities are of course just as important, but more for the developer than for the user, allthough that OO characteristic probably is the reason for the NeXT having such a good user interface. : 2)What kind of processors do they run on? Originally (when NeXT made it's own hardware) 68030 and 68040. Then came NeXTstep for Intel (80486 and higher), which runs on a the major, but not all PC boxes. Later support has been added for HP-RISC and Sun Sparc. Now we are of course waiting for Power-PC. : 3)What kind of OS do they use? NeXTstep runs on the Mach variant of Unix. : 4)Who are they aimed at (e.g., home, office, mainframe) Originally NeXT's were aimed at educational (university) users and technological oriented people. But later, because with NeXTstep you can very fast develop full-GUI applications (a feature I should have mentioned at 1.), the banking world has taken strong interest. They really need short development cycles, no matter the cost or how long the supplier will be alive. Probably the whole application has only a life-cycle of less than 2 years. : Please note that I do _not_ want to get into any type of system wars. I'm : just an inexperienced dude who's curious. Any help in my quest for : knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks. You're welcome. : -Kurt Willem
From: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LOST HARDWARE PASSWD Date: 17 Aug 1995 14:08:22 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <STREBEL2.95Aug17160822@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <40r4gq$6cp@decaxp.harvard.edu> In-reply-to: "Paul F. Bergen"'s message of 15 Aug 1995 21:44:58 GMT Hi, 1. boot, stop the boot after the Testing system m,essage by pressing cmd-cmd-<upper left key on keypad> 2. check the default boot device, if it's not en0 you can go on, but otherwise, you wouldn't have this problem, would you ;-) 3. get any other NeXT boot disk, where you know the root passwd of, swap disks, boot it. 4. get hwpwd by EPS, a program to display the hardware password on the screen, if you have read access to /dev/vid0, and use it. 5. now that you know the hardware password, you swap disks again. and give back the boot disk to the nice person, who gave it to you Ciao, Stephan
From: jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com (Jeffrey Alan Macht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disk Label(s) disappearing? Date: 17 Aug 1995 10:13:29 -0700 Organization: Online at Wimsey Information Services Inc - Vancouver, Canada Message-ID: <40vtbp$859@vanbc.wimsey.com> References: <40tml7$9n3@vanbc.wimsey.com> In article <40tml7$9n3@vanbc.wimsey.com>, Jeffrey Alan Macht <jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com> wrote: >I had a somewhat strange thing happen yesterday. I shut down my >system, and reboot to go into Windows to do some sequencing, and when >I reboot into NS, it says something about the "Disk Label is not >Valid" for both my root and User disks. The kernel then panics and I >get a continue/reboot prompt. Any ideas why this happened? It's the hardware. There is no software solution. I tried 'disk label', but disk can't even write to the device. The boot sector is basically zeroed out. Oh well. Fun weekend this is going to be, even though it's not the weekend yet. Jeff. -- Jeff Macht (jamacht@wimsey.com) |"Dreams become reality when desire http://www.wimsey.com/~jamacht/ | transforms them into concrete action", NeXT Mail, MIME accepted | Gus, from the film The Top of his Head.
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where's PDFviewer? Date: 17 Aug 1995 18:54:32 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <410398$iae@news.fsu.edu> I just started reading this newsgroup today so I apologize for being a little behind the times.....but where is the acrobat reader? Anxiously awaiting acrobat. Post or mail me. Thanx everybody! -- ======================================================================== Peter Lakanen | Electronic/Computer Music Instructor....Club DJ.. lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ....Remixer....Computer Geek....Lover Of Dogs.... (904) 681-6635 | COME VISIT ME: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~lakanen ========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: bmarcum@iglou.iglou.com (Bill Marcum) Subject: Re: how to have modem check if phone is in use Message-ID: <DDH1o8.G0x@iglou.com> Sender: news@iglou.com (News Administrator) Organization: IgLou Internet Services References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950815131338.1663D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:16:55 GMT Some modems give a "NO DIAL TONE" message; if yours doesn't do that, look for a device called a "Message Stopper"; you plug it into the phone line and plug the modem into it. -- Bill Marcum bmarcum@iglou.com SEX IS NOT OBSCENE, CENSORSHIP IS!
From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where's PDFviewer? Date: 17 Aug 1995 16:20:59 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199508171522.PAA22436@beep.roadrunner.com> References: <410398$iae@news.fsu.edu> In article <410398$iae@news.fsu.edu>, Peter S. Lakanen <lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu> wrote: >I just started reading this newsgroup today so I apologize >for being a little behind the times.....but where is the >acrobat reader? > >Anxiously awaiting acrobat. Well, me too. Tailor.app recognizes the extension, and (apparently) if it is a short file (1 page), it will display the .pdf file. However, if it is more than one page, it doesn't, claiming a 'readline' error. Has this problem in Tailor been seen by others? Might it be fixed in newer versions? Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 11 Aug 1995 15:08:41 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <40frpp$dsp@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu> References: <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> In article <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) writes: > This thing works great! I'm really impressed. I agree; it's a very nice PDF viewer. If you are looking for a nice source of PDF to view, try http://nytimesfax.com/times.pdf. This is a 5-6 page summary of the New York Times delivered fresh every day. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Ronald Pomeroy <rpomeroy@tpoint.net> Subject: Re: Disk Label(s) disappearing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <DDH55D.Ku4.0.-s@tpoint.net> Sender: news@tpoint.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: At Home References: <40tml7$9n3@vanbc.wimsey.com> <40vtbp$859@vanbc.wimsey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:32:00 GMT jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com (Jeffrey Alan Macht) wrote: >In article <40tml7$9n3@vanbc.wimsey.com>, >Jeffrey Alan Macht <jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com> wrote: >>I had a somewhat strange thing happen yesterday. I shut down my >>system, and reboot to go into Windows to do some sequencing, and when >>I reboot into NS, it says something about the "Disk Label is not >>Valid" for both my root and User disks. The kernel then panics and I >>get a continue/reboot prompt. Any ideas why this happened? > >It's the hardware. There is no software solution. > >I tried 'disk label', but disk can't even write to the device. The >boot sector is basically zeroed out. > >Oh well. Fun weekend this is going to be, even though it's not the >weekend yet. > >Jeff. > This is spooky. The same thing happened to me this last week. It happened after installing windoz. As it turned out windows formatted my secondary drive (yes, I lost a lot of important shit) and hosed the label then. I managed to get NEXTSTEP to boot properly by commenting out entry for that disk in fstab. Once NEXTSTEP booted properly it mounted the drive as a dos drive just fine. Technically, this was the configuration I was seeking-I just didn't want to arrive there by way of losing my home directory (thanks MicroScrot(um)!). Windows bites...hard. But, I'm dealing with it. I haven't been feeling too great about NeXT and NEXT(OPEN)STEP lately, but this run-in with the much heralded Microsoft and the bile they've so successfully marketed has me counting my blessings. While I'm on the subject of NeXT... It's my understanding that in the 3.3 FoundationKit, you cannot actually perform math operations on NSData objects. That is, you have to get the C representations and do the math in straight C and then convert them back to their NSData representations. Is this accurate ? Forgive me if I'm being overly critical on this issue, but as a Smalltalk programmer I find that *really* messy. Please tell me it ain't so, I was looking forward to sharpening my Objective-C skills (in the face of new opportunities). Ronald Pomeroy rpomeroy@tpoint.net
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LOST HARDWARE PASSWD Date: 17 Aug 1995 23:38:17 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <410jt9$t2p@news.next.com> References: <40r4gq$6cp@decaxp.harvard.edu> In article <40r4gq$6cp@decaxp.harvard.edu> "Paul F. Bergen" <bergen@fas.harvard.edu> writes: :I have a NeXTstation which needs to have fsck run before it can reboot. :However, someone set a hardware password and no one knows what it is. : :Any suggestions on recovering from a lost hardware password? You'll need to remove the lithium battery from the motherboard, and either leave it out for a few hours, or short across the battery-holder terminals. Either method will discharge the NVRAM which stores the hardware password. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: picard@silcom.com (Donald Burr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Bug in NextStep 'scanf()' function - can it be fixed? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 18 Aug 1995 00:06:01 GMT Organization: Starfleet Command Message-ID: <410lh9$fml@ocean.silcom.com> The place where I work has a NeXTstation (yes, a real 680x0 NeXTstation -- but not color) running NeXTstep OS. We've found a bug in the scanf() function in the standard C library, that improperly reads and stores floating point numbers. The company writes software that's heavily-dependent on this functionality, and this bug is, to say the least, irritating. We've consulted with NeXT, and found out that: (a) their tech support, and perhaps the whole company itself, is a LOT worse than it used to be; and (b) NeXT wants an insanely huge amount of money to fix this little bugger. I had an idea last night, though. It seems that NeXTstep is based havily on GNU stuff -- the compiler reports "GNU cc version 1.something" as its version, and (though I have no way of checking) I bet the libraries are based on GNU libc as well. Would it be possible to grab the latest source for gcc, g++, and glibc off the Net, and install them? Would that fix the scanf() problem? Can this be done? Or, if I do it, will it erase some NeXT-specific customizations, custom functions, etc. that the system is dependent upon? Please respond to me at >picard@silcom.com< Thanks! -- Donald Burr [picard@silcom.com], P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 TEL: (805)564-1871 // FAX: 564-2315 // WWW: http://www.silcom.com/~picard PGP Public Key and more are available through the Auto-Responder -- send e-mail to me with the words "SEND HELP" in the Subject: line for info! ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ekraft@netcom.com (Erik Kraft) Subject: Re: NIL status??? Message-ID: <ekraftDDHKq2.8L1@netcom.com> References: <40vfqf$a3t@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:08:25 GMT Sender: ekraft@netcom4.netcom.com hanley@popeye (Mark Hanley) wrote: >Has anyone gotten the first issue of NIL from the new publishers? >I've e-mailed them, but gotten no response yet. Didn't someone say >that the next issue was due out in August? Am I jumping the gun? > >Mark Hanley ><hanley@gelac.lasc.lockheed.com> They just came back from the printers and are being mailed starting today until Monday. cyndi@nil.com told me this. -- erik kraft 3DO and NextStep Programmer ekraft@ensuing.com [ NeXTMail and MIME okay ]
From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: ObjectWorld - HOT HIGHLIGHTS Date: 18 Aug 1995 03:24:08 GMT Organization: Pencom Software Message-ID: <41114o$lg7@digdug.pencom.com> References: <40s3ql$2r7@crl9.crl.com> My favorite highlights in addition to OPENSTEP on Windows NT, D'OLE, WebObjects, etc, etc, are the following: 1. Flat Panel display with HPPA RISC workstation inside 2. Tadpole laptop with 135MHz Pentium, color 800x600 with screen panning 3. Lighthouse Design announced ObjectPlan case tool 4. Teknekron's ObjectBus -- True broadcast, publish & subscribe and guaranteed delivery 5. Objective-TCL 6. A SPARC laptop running NEXTSTEP in color at 1024x768, first laptop to do this. Unfortunately I did not get to see this one. Anyone saw it? 7. Miscellaneous: EOF 2.0, PDO 4.0, etc. __________________ * A PixelVision 3-inch deep flat panel display with an HPPA RISC computer inside. I did not realize this until I asked, okay this looks really nice, but where is the computer? It turned out that it was inside the monitor. It had a 1.? GB hard disk, 64MB of memory, etc, etc. You could even connect a second flat panel display. It was a multiheaded system. And best of all, it was running NEXTSTEP and it supports the multiheaded graphics subsystem. * They also had a Tadpole laptop with a 135MHz Pentium running NEXTSTEP in color at 800x600 but with a true screen resolution of 1024x768 with screen panning. You move the mouse beyond the edge of the screen and it scrolls using hardware screen panning. You can connect an external display to view the whole 1024x768 without having to reboot. Really nice! They also had an NEC flat panel LCD color display running 16-bit color at 1280x1024. * Lighthouse Design announced ObjectPlan but it won't be available soon. This tool complements their awesome Diagram product and it is basically a CASE tool for design and analysis that works with Objective-C and C++ and it has hooks so that you can use it with other languages. It can also be used to reverse-engineer foreign source code libraries and they have plans to integrate it with NeXT's Project Builder and SUNSOFT's DOE environment. * Teknekron Software Systems at the Sun booth was demoing a CORBA 2.0 compliant product running on NEXTSTEP/SPARC. The product runs also on Windows NT, plain Windows, UNIX and VAX/VMS operating systems. The demo consisted an implementation of the application that comes with NEXTSTEP that demonstrates distributed objects. You drag a dot in a window and all the other instances of the app update the same dot to the new location. This app used point-to-point messaging. Then for the demo, Teknekron implemented the same app using their ObjectBus product which was using a true broadcast from what I was told. He had two workstations and you could tell the difference. He said that this was scalable to a large number of workstations, e.g. 1000 workstations. It also supports publish and subscribe. In addition to all this, he said that it had guaranteed delivery for transaction support. For example, if the process where the targe object was not running when a message was sent with guaranteed delivery, then the object would eventually get the message later when the process it lives on was launched. This product is CORBA 2.0 compliant. * Objective-TCL was being demoed and I liked it. They had a palette and the most impressive one is the one that allows you to enter code and execute it without having to recompile. They executed code in Interface Builder without recompiling. It has Objective-C-like syntax, but for declaring a class, they use a slightly different syntax. Also, variables are typeless. Overall, it looked really nice. * BlackSmith announced DataSmith. The description hints that it will have a feature I've been wanting for a while, which is being able to load custom written EO's to pull data from them. For example, we should be able to ask a CustomerOrder object for the total instead of having to write a script that computes it as in other report tools. Also it seems like NEXTSTEP 4.0 will have shared library support, PPP bundled and improvements in the GUI. Too bad they did not demo it, I really wanted to see it. Also, it seems like EOF 2.0 will have some nice improvements regarding the saving of EO's and some of the subtle problems in the EOController to UI layer. From what I understood, you won't need the EOController in order to save your EO's, making it nicer for those developing PDO applications where you can't use EOController objects. OPENSTEP for Windows NT and Windows 95 will have the Windows look and feel. This should look really nice with the Windows 95 GUI. The Windows NT look is "ugly" but Windows NT will be getting the Windows 95 look soon. Steve Jobs said that they were optimizing it for the Windows 95 GUI since the current look is going away. PDO 4.0 will incorporate CORBA. I'm suspecting they will be using the Dynamic Invocation Interface (DII) part of CORBA which is similar to OLE Automation which is what they used to integrate OLE with Objective-C. Visual BASIC and the Visual-BASIC-like language in most Microsoft apps such as Excel have the ability to do OLE Automation which means, being able to message an OLE/COM object. Given, Objective-C's ability to go from a string containing a method name to a selector used to message an Objective-C object, this should be no problem for Objective-C. Do this in C++.... I guess that's why Visual BASIC is still so popular for OLE objects. Later, Ricardo #import "StandardDisclaimer.h" ||| (0 0) +--------------------------oOO----(_)----oOO------------------------+ | Ricardo J. 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From: dave james <djames@isl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to get Nextstep machines talking to Nt servers and run windows apps. Date: 17 Aug 1995 22:50:30 GMT Organization: Internet research Message-ID: <410h3m$neh@bronwyn.isl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I'd like some guidelines as to what works in this case. We have a lot of Nt servers running MS tcpip and Netbeui. We have a lot of machines using microsoft mail and other ms apps. We are about to introduce a group of Next os based machines into this environment and would like to hear how other people have achieved this OR be told where good hard info exists to approach this topic. Thanks in advance for any help. djames@isl.com
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DOS, win95, NS3.3- how to boot? Date: 18 Aug 1995 08:12:36 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <411i1k$m7f@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Sorry to trouble everyone but I've been trying to get DOS/win3.1, NS3.3 and Win95 to live together. They exist on 3 partitions of an IDE hard drive. I'd like to be able to select which one will start up when I start the computer. Now, I had been using OS-BS with just NS and DOS/Win, and that worked fine. But Windows 95 seeems to have gotten the better of me. Any help would be appreciated as usual. Thank's...Philip -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF1.1 Date: 18 Aug 1995 08:23:30 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <411im2$m7f@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> I received something called EOF when I upgraded to 3.3 Developer. I have no idea what it is. Is it something I can sell or is there even a market for it?...Philip -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: dave james <djames@isl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FS: NeXt equip -- cheap Date: 18 Aug 1995 12:19:32 GMT Organization: Internet research Message-ID: <4120gk$623@bronwyn.isl.com> References: <lynaDDFIn9.BrH@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: lyna@netcom.com Dear Lyna, want to buy machine(s) need to talk my number is 312 540 7338, or djames@isl.com. I'd like to sort this out quickly so maybe a phone conversation is best? not we're there yet, in fact we're futher away.
From: srjohnson@tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 18 Aug 1995 14:13:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <41276v$har@news.tamu.edu> References: <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> In article <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) writes: > This thing works great! I'm really impressed. > > ..................kris > > -- > Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acrobat Reader for NEXTSTEP?? WHERE, where?!? Stephen Johnson srjohnson@tamu.edu (NeXTmail OK)
From: root@sandeep.vtls.com (Sandeep) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: any good loan ammortization programs Date: 18 Aug 1995 15:43:40 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <412cfc$o0v@solaris.cc.vt.edu> boards@nosc.mil (Stephen Board) writes > Hello World, > Does anyone know of any good NS-Based loan amortization programs out > on the net? If so, please let me know. > Stephen, There is a binary called LoanCalc.app on one of the US ftp sites [for 68K and 80x86]. It is a basic loan amortization program but works fine. If you cannot find it send me email and will try and NEXTMAIL it to you. Sandeep Somaiya VTLS Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Server keeps crashing every five days Message-ID: <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:52:14 GMT I've been having a problem lately where my server will crash every five days. I'm running NeXTStep 3.3, and I suspect either sendmail, or more likely, the CERN httpd to be a big part of the problem. I checked /usr/adm/messages, and I have a *ton* of this in it: Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc last message repeated 43 times Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:25:22 nvcc last message repeated 27 times Aug 18 07:25:28 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc last message repeated 14 times Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc last message repeated 54 times Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:27:01 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:27:28 nvcc last message repeated 12 times Aug 18 07:27:28 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc last message repeated 41 times Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:28:02 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:29:00 nvcc last message repeated 42 times Is there a fix for this, short of stopping the computer from being a web or mail sever? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lyna@netcom.com (L. Faucett) Subject: FS: NeXt equip-- cheap {more info} Message-ID: <lynaDDItHn.6vG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:15:22 GMT Sender: lyna@netcom17.netcom.com First, thanks to all who've expressed interest. I wanted to give you all an update. The 2 turbocolor Nexts are complete sets: Each has 32mb RAM; 400HD; external drive of 400HD (I'm not sure about the hard disk memory--see note below). Each has a 21" megapixel color display (one still in the box). each has a 400 dpi laser printer (one still in the box) each has a keyboard, and a "sound" box. I believe all the cable are available (but you might need to buy some if I can't figure out which cable is which). These units were purchase in January 1993 by another department within our company (a large bank in CA). Since then, the units were transferred to my department & hence I don't have the original purchase invoice which would detail the specs. I know that the internal hard disk works. I'm told however, that the unit uses the external hard disk to boot up and there is some sort of error on that external hd. The former user of the machine doesn't think that this is a difficult problem to correct, providing that one knows what one is doing. So far, I've had a few "so-so" monetary offer -- around $1500 per unit. I know that they each worth at least double. My main concern is that I need to move them out of their current location asap. Moreover, I do have a real job & don't have the time to deal with this. The front runner as of today are a couple of non-profit organizations (a hospital, a school in TN, and a computer recycling center in CA). If these don't pan out by NeXt week, I'll resort back to the interested buyers. I hope I'm not making all of this too complicated. I know NeXt users are a hardy group & would like to see the machines put to good use. It's just that I don't really have the time to deal with all the gritty details. If you are interested, please send email (and include your phone number). Due to high volume of email, please be patient. Check back here for additional news, if you haven't heard from me by August 28. Thanks again. BTW, Bell Atlantic refurbishes NeXT computers for resale. They said that there is a waiting list of people wanting to sell the TurboColors so they weren't interested in buying mine. If you want used Next, call them at 1 800 499 NEXT. -- --lyna@netcom.com "Are we there yet????"
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any good voice msging softare?? Date: 18 Aug 1995 19:35:41 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <412q2d$lsq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - I have black hardware and a ZyXel U-1496E modem. Would like to set up service on my computer where it acts like an answering machine, but gives different messages based on what is pressed on touch-tone phone. Also allows caller to save messages to different folders. Anything like that exist for NEXT? Rich
From: beckwith@orchid.icd.teradyne.com (Bob Beckwith ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help getting VOID going on a (replacement) 040 board Date: 18 Aug 1995 23:59:45 GMT Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA Message-ID: <4139hh$7jo@steadfast.teradyne.com> References: <410398$iae@news.fsu.edu> Has anybody out there had problems running VOID on an 040 cube??? I had to get a cube board replaced, and when I received the new one from Bell Atlantic everything worked fine **except** VOID. VOID starts up OK, and I can hear the music, but normally, the playing field sort of spins up out of nowhere, and that isn't happening. Then, when I should have a full playing field in front of me, all I see is black (i.e. no asteroids or anything). I've already sent one board back to Bell-Atlantic (obviously, *something* is wrong with it - this same system works fine if I put in a "known good" board). I also tried calling Lighthouse and asking them for help. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT. The woman I spoke to (Robin) basically said "We know longer support the product and there's no one here that can help you". I thanked her (for what, I'll never know) and hung up. For what I had to pay Bell-Atlantic for a board, I'd like one that I can play VOID on. So I plan on sending back this second board, but it would probably shorten this process somewhat if I could give Bell Atlantic some sort of idea as to what the problem might be. Any help or hints that anyone could provide would be *greatly* appreciated! --Bob Bob Beckwith (beckwith@icd.teradyne.com) HDL/EDA Consultant Currently at: Teradyne, Inc. 321 Harrison Ave Boston MA 02116
From: Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 19 Aug 1995 10:53:06 +0200 Organization: private site in Munich, (South) Germany Sender: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Message-ID: <AXEL.95Aug19105305@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> <41276v$har@news.tamu.edu> In-reply-to: srjohnson@tamu.edu's message of 18 Aug 1995 14:13:51 GMT >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Johnson <srjohnson@tamu.edu> writes: Stephen> Acrobat Reader for NEXTSTEP?? WHERE, where?!? e.g. on peanuts: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/ Under this hierarchy you should find the app unter Text/apps (if I remember correctly), but definitely you're gonna find it in the directories 0 (new files since the release of the Peanuts Archive CD), 1 (new files of the last week) and 2 (new files of the last two weeks). But you can also "surf" peanuts at http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/index-e.html (end of blatant plug :-) Please be aware, that the Acrobat reader still is in beta! Hope, this helps, Axel -- Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXT/MIME-Mail) seiberta@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (ASCII-Mail only, please) You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: kermit, changing modem speed and dialing In-Reply-To: "Timothy J. Luoma"'s message of Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:39:34 -0400 Message-ID: <RDL.95Aug19114411@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950816133218.12721G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:44:11 GMT The "T" option in the standard AT modem command set allows you to specify TouchTone dialing. The "P" option specifies pulse or rotary dialing. AT T AT P These options are usually coupled with the dialing command "D": AT DT 555 1212 kermit allows you to specify init and command strings for dialing. Type "show dial" in kermit for more information. As far as baud rate goes, kermit allows you to specify the DTE baud rate (or the speed that your computer talks to modem) using "set speed nnnnn". In your case, you will want "set speed 38400" When your modem connects to a remote modem it will negotiate a line speed which will be no greater than 14400. However, since most modems use data compression, you may get greater than 14,400 bps thus the higher DTE rate. You can set defaults for kermit in a ~/.kermrc file. kermit does not consult /etc/gettytab whatsoever. I have "C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for NeXTSTEP" compiled quad-fat. Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088 In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950816133218.12721G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: The modem line I use has been upgraded from 9600 to 14.4. I set my modem to 14.4 and 'setenv BAUDRATE 14400' but it still shows up as 9600 when it begins to dial. 1) How can I tell kermit to use a different speed? 2) how can I tell kermit to dial using TONE rather than pulse/rotary? Does any of this have to do with gettytab ?? for the NeXT audience: 3) I am using an older version of kermit compiled for my NeXT (currently using C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT) does anyone have a newer version compiled for m68k (or know where I can get the source and feebly attempt to compile it myself? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
From: borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Metamail for NeXT? Date: 19 Aug 1995 16:31:37 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Message-ID: <4153l9$cbq@fenris.hiof.no> I use tin to read News - sometimes I am asked if I want to use Mime tools to read article. It then complains that Metmail was not found. Is MetaMail available for my machine? - Barre -- Barre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/ludvigsen/ finger: borrel@mashallah.ludvigsen.hiof.no
From: borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sound freezes my Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 19 Aug 1995 16:32:34 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Message-ID: <4153n2$cbq@fenris.hiof.no> References: <40ncn6$399@fenris.hiof.no> The problem was in my SoundBox - I changed it and it worked. - barrei Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@abdallah) wrote: : Coming back from vacation, I discovered that my Dimensions Cube had : died. The hardware daignostisc stopped at "sound out" during the : startup process. After disabling the sound out test in the monitor, : the : machine does boot, but any attempt to make sound causes it to freeze : completely. : How do I go about disabling sound completely so I can use the machine : - or better yet, what has gone wrong and does one fix it? : (Mail answers appreciated!) : - Barre : Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel : finger: borrel@abdallah.hiof.no -- Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/ludvigsen/ finger: borrel@mashallah.ludvigsen.hiof.no
From: johnbach@net (Restrict) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Government Restricts Internet!! Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:58:12 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <415mmq$7a2@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> SPEAK UP AMERICA -- MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT Question: Should the United States Government interfere and put restrictions on the use of the Internet?? CALL: 1-900-945-5600 ext 163 and cast your vote. Cost: $1.98 per call (NOT per minute) Call Today Must be 18+/Touch Tones Only InfoService/Studio City, CA/213-993-3366 Results of this survey will be compiled and sent to members of the House and Senate. Thank you for casting your vote and for making your voice heard.
Date: 19 Aug 1995 22:08:07 GMT From: johnbach@net (Restrict) Message-ID: <cancel.415mmq$7a2@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <415mmq$7a2@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <415mmq$7a2@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: beegee@conan.ids.net (Luke Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: acquiring NeXT. .? Date: 20 Aug 1995 00:46:58 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Beta News Server, (401) 885-4243 Message-ID: <4160m2$gl7@superman.ids.net> /i hey, anyone know about acquiring an intel-architecture version of NeXT.. ? I'd like to try-before-I-buy, you know? Is there a freebee version, or could I talk to someone about getting a copy of theirs? I have no idea how its setup, I was banking on it just being like linux distributions, you know, a bunch of disk sets, everything pretty much optional.. That would be ideal. But in any case, can someone help me get a copy.. ? I hate knowing NOTHING about certain things, and I know not a thing about next, except it should be THE os, except bill gates fucked with it well, fucked with the market, and made everyone buy his cheaseball os. Der. But anyways, someone set me up with a copy, okay? Just email me at well, just reply. then we'll work out the details. Thanks alot.. : B
From: moo@ix.netcom.com (Maurice M DeFino ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and X Date: 20 Aug 1995 03:40:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <416are$i9u@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <40k5i9$1a8@agate.berkeley.edu> In <40k5i9$1a8@agate.berkeley.edu> jeff@econ.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Ely) writes: > >Is it possible to export the display on a >NeXTSTEP box to an X server? > >Jeff > We have tried a number of different methods where I work with no success. Each time we tried the server would deny the window manager access. However using co-Xist X-Windows emulater from (PenCom) we have been able to share X displays without a glich.
From: anb@nextstep.com (Andy Brandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any Cool NeXTSTEP Logo's out there? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:17:10 -0700 Organization: . Message-ID: <anb-2108950017100001@dial-berk1-17.iway.aimnet.com> References: <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com> In article <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com>, "Charles C. Hocker" <american@aztec.asu.edu> wrote: > I guess the title say's it all. I was just wondering where to get > some NS logo's other then the one's that came with the OS itself. I have the logo from the television show "Next Step" on the Discovery Channel. You're welcome to a copy of it, if you'd like. If anybody wants it, I can post it as a binary to this newsgroup. Andy Brandt Production Assistant, NextStep
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where's PDFviewer? Date: 20 Aug 1995 15:44:48 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Distribution: World Message-ID: <417l9g$6ft@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <199508171522.PAA22436@beep.roadrunner.com> Check ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de *PDFView.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz* Thansk, guenther, for the useful software!! Mark - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PDFView 1.0: PDFView lets you view and print PDF files. Besides the basic commands in the display menu you can zoom a rectangle by halting the alternate key (this uses to be right Alt on PC keyboards) down. And you can abort this by pressing the right mouse button. Further PDFView can follow the hyper links as long as they refer to the same document. This is not much but a lot more than nothing. Much pleasure Guenther This Software is for free noncomercial use. You schould never pay for it. You are welcome to distribute copies of it as long as you don't modify them. There are no warranties. If you have suggestions, feel free to contact me under the following addresses: guenther@onevision.de G.FUERTHALLER@LINK-R.zer.de
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any Cool NeXTSTEP Logo's out there? Date: 20 Aug 1995 22:59:12 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <418eo0$bt9@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com> <anb-2108950017100001@dial-berk1-17.iway.aimnet.com> anb@nextstep.com (Andy Brandt) writes: >In article <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com>, "Charles C. Hocker" ><american@aztec.asu.edu> wrote: >> I guess the title say's it all. I was just wondering where to get >> some NS logo's other then the one's that came with the OS itself. >I have the logo from the television show "Next Step" on the Discovery >Channel. You're welcome to a copy of it, if you'd like. If anybody wants >it, I can post it as a binary to this newsgroup. >Andy Brandt >Production Assistant, NextStep Hey, Andy, any chance of NextStep doing a story on NEXTSTEP? Maybe people would find it interesting to know what this object-oriented stuff is about, and why it's a hot topic. You could get some great visuals wiring up display objects with Interface Builder. Maybe talk about WebSurfer's new object kit and thereby get a connection to another interesting topic, the WWW. --David Finton
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 21 Aug 1995 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <41918f$dot@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader Date: 20 Aug 1995 01:35:19 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4163gn$kfh@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <40dqoa$sqc@news.xmission.com> <41276v$har@news.tamu.edu> srjohnson@tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) wrote: > kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) writes: > > This thing works great! I'm really impressed. > > > > ..................kris > Acrobat Reader for NEXTSTEP?? > WHERE, where?!? There is a PDFviewer.app available from some site in Germany. The current version is 0.66, and will expire at the end of this month. A new version should show up soon. Note that this is *not* Adobe Acrobat Reader for NeXTSTEP. In particular, it isn't an Adobe product at all. Someone is writing an application for viewing PDF files on NeXTSTEP, but it does not include support for everything that Adobe's product has on other platforms. I realize that Acrobat is mainly for reading PDF files, and thus PDFViewer.app fills a hole that exists because there is no Adobe Acrobat for NeXTSTEP. Strictly speaking, though, it's not Adobe Acrobat. PDFViewer.app is, unquestionably, a promising application and a welcome addition for NeXTSTEP users. Still, it'd be nice if Adobe would make Acrobat itself available on NeXTSTEP. I do not expect Adobe to do that anytime soon, unfortunately. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: binary to dim screen on m68k running 3.2 Date: 21 Aug 1995 16:15:10 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <41abee$729@news.its.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950815131729.1663E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > I am repeating my periodic request for a binary which I can use on the > command line to dim the screen of my NeXT (m68k running 3.2). I have > tried the ones in the ..Tools/screen folder on 'peanuts' and none of them > seem to work for me. There's a set of screen hacks Bill Bumgarner and I wrote years ago for demo purposes that'll adjust you screen's brightness. Look for "ScreenMunger", which might be on ftp.cs.orst.edu, or compile this source (if the header files are still in existance :-). This is well enough commented that it should be obvious how to adjust the brightness for your tastes: /* br.c -- simply resets the video to a "comfortable level"; meaning that the * video should be visible yet not overbearingly bright * * 5/92, CWS -- modified to use the evs driver, thus avoiding the need * to directly use /dev/vid0. */ #import <stdio.h> #import <nextdev/evsio.h> #import <sys/file.h> #import <sys/ioctl.h> main() { int fd, i, j; /* open a file descriptor on /dev/evs0. Notice we open as RDONLY (read only) * but, apparently, that is ignored by ioctl, because we can still set the * brightness. * * if !fd, then output errno and let the user go figure out what and why... * else, move on. */ if (!(fd = open("/dev/evs0", O_RDONLY, NULL))) { fprintf(stdout,"open result:%d\n", errno); exit(1); } /* brightness seems to run from 0 to 61-- go figure. 40 seems to be * comfortably bright. * * call ioctl w/the fd and the operand EVSIOSB which asks for one integer * variable in the varargs list. Check errno on return and tell the user * about it, if something blew up. */ i=40; if (ioctl(fd, EVSIOSB, &i) < 0) { /* was DKIOBRIGHT */ fprintf(stdout, "ioctl errno: %d\n", errno); exit(1); } /* close the fd and get outta here */ close(fd); exit(0); } -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Orrin C. Kerr) Subject: Printing a directory listing Message-ID: <DDo48I.2AF@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: ad244@freenet.carleton.ca (Orrin C. Kerr) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:55:30 GMT How can you print out a listing from the File Browser? Is there a way?? I know how to get a listing of a directory using a terminal session and the Unix commands cd and ls. That what I showed to one of my users who came to me asking how she could print out a directory listing. While the Unix weeny way works (hmmm. How alliterative.), I would rather that my users were *not* poing about in terminal sessions where they can do Bad Things. Does anyone know of a way to print the File Broser lists? TIA -- Orrin C. Kerr ad244@freenet.carleton.ca All opinions expressed are my own and not the responsibility of my innocent employer (who shall remain nameless)(but it's gummint).
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ObjectWorld - HOT HIGHLIGHTS Date: 21 Aug 1995 17:03:36 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <41ae98$nn2@emerald.oz.net> References: <41114o$lg7@digdug.pencom.com> In article <41114o$lg7@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) writes: > > My favorite highlights in addition to OPENSTEP on Windows NT, D'OLE, > WebObjects, etc, etc, are the following: > 6. A SPARC laptop running NEXTSTEP in color at 1024x768, first laptop to > do this. Unfortunately I did not get to see this one. Anyone saw it? Yes. It was very nice. I was concerned that text at 1024x768 on a 10" flat panel display would be unreadable (too small), but the display was so crisp that this wasn't a problem for me. This RDI portable is available with a 80 or 110 MHz. SPARC II(?) CPU, so it seemed peppy, especially the graphics which use some sort of standard SPARC graphics acceleration hardware. This portable includes just about everything that a standard workstation includes - serial ports, 3 drive bays (over 1 GB internal Winchester capacity), Ethernet port, external mouse port (I didn't like the included trackball), external monitor port, etc. However, the high-resolution display makes it pretty expensive ($15,000+). A NEXTSTEP workstation reseller and builder, Bifrost, was demonstrating it. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: kulickja@saturn.aitc.rest.tasc.com. (Judy A. Kulick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tektronix Printer Date: 21 Aug 1995 17:58:48 GMT Organization: TASC Message-ID: <41ahgo$g0h@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> Wondering if anyone out there has had problems adding a Tektronix 220i/240 color printer to a NeXTStep network? We can ping the printer and the network sees it as a host, but the jobs sit in the queue. Any suggestions? We added a network card, set it up for RJ45 on the network, put it in the netinfo host table, set it up in print manager, sent it an authorization code and tcp/ip via our MAC, but nothing but the MAC can print to it. -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%=O;F1E<FEN9R!I M9B!A;GEO;F4@;W5T('1H97)E(&AA<R!H860@<')O8FQE;7,@861D:6YG(&$@ M5&5K=')O;FEX(#(R,&DO,C0P(&-O;&]R('!R:6YT97(@=&\@82!.95A44W1E M<"!N971W;W)K/R`@5V4@8V%N('!I;F<@=&AE('!R:6YT97(@86YD('1H92!N M971W;W)K('-E97,@:70@87,@82!H;W-T+"!B=70@=&AE(&IO8G,@<VET(&EN M('1H92!Q=65U92X@($%N>2!S=6=G97-T:6]N<S]<"EP*5V4@861D960@82!N M971W;W)K(&-A<F0L('-E="!I="!U<"!F;W(@4DHT-2!O;B!T:&4@;F5T=V]R M:RP@<'5T(&ET(&EN('1H92!N971I;F9O(&AO<W0@=&%B;&4L('-E="!I="!U M<"!I;B!P<FEN="!M86YA9V5R+"!S96YT(&ET(&%N(&%U=&AO<FEZ871I;VX@ M8V]D92!A;F0@=&-P+VEP('9I82!O=7(@34%#+"!B=70@;F]T:&EN9R!B=70@ ;=&AE($U!0R!C86X@<')I;G0@=&\@:70N"GT* `
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sound freezes my Cube Date: 21 Aug 1995 17:33:08 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <41ag0k$729@news.its.com> References: <40ncn6$399@fenris.hiof.no> borrel@abdallah (Borre Ludvigsen) wrote: > How do I go about disabling sound completely so I can use the machine > - or better yet, what has gone wrong and does one fix it? I had the exact same problem a few years back. I was able to fix it by disassembling the monitor, de-dusting the sound board (and the rest of the monitor as well) thoroughly, and removing and replacing all connectors, which will solve contact oxidation problems. If that doesn't work, you can probably purchase a new sound board from Sam Goldberger of Spherical Solutions or Bell Atlantic. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any Cool NeXTSTEP Logo's out there? Date: 21 Aug 95 20:06:41 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.809035601@coricopat> References: <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com> <anb-2108950017100001@dial-berk1-17.iway.aimnet.com> anb@nextstep.com (Andy Brandt) writes: >In article <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com>, "Charles C. Hocker" ><american@aztec.asu.edu> wrote: >> I guess the title say's it all. I was just wondering where to get >> some NS logo's other then the one's that came with the OS itself. >I have the logo from the television show "Next Step" on the Discovery >Channel. You're welcome to a copy of it, if you'd like. If anybody wants >it, I can post it as a binary to this newsgroup. >Andy Brandt >Production Assistant, NextStep Why not put it on a Web site, Andy? I'd be happy to host it - however, my page will move soon. And yes, of course many (great looking) images can simply be pulled from NeXTs Web page at www.next.com. Just drag them out of OmniWeb (when oh when will 2.0 be out? Can't wait to buy it. :^). 21st century digital boy Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany # P+++>+++++ (sic) e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tektronix Printer Date: 21 Aug 1995 20:52:23 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <41arm7$rmr@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <41ahgo$g0h@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Judy A. Kulick (kulickja@saturn.aitc.rest.tasc.com.) wrote: : Wondering if anyone out there has had problems adding a Tektronix : 220i/240 color printer to a NeXTStep network? We can ping the : printer and the network sees it as a host, but the jobs sit in the : queue. Any suggestions? : We added a network card, set it up for RJ45 on the network, put it in : the netinfo host table, set it up in print manager, sent it an : authorization code and tcp/ip via our MAC, but nothing but the MAC : can print to it. I would like to see the printcap entry. nidump printcap / Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing a directory listing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:01:01 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821154202.22098E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <DDo48I.2AF@freenet.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <DDo48I.2AF@freenet.carleton.ca> I don't know how, but I bet you could write a TickleService for it in about 5 minutes! Actually, I did: # Begin TickleServices Version 1.1 Data "Menu Item" = "Workspace/Print Dir List"; "Send Type" = "NXFilenamePboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ set filename [lindex [filenames] 0] if {![file isdirectory $filename]} { set filename [file dirname $filename] } exec /bin/ls $filename | /usr/ucb/lpr "; # End TickleServices Data Obviously this is totally off the cuff, but it works (both times I tried it ;-) Your mileage may vary, some assembly required. No warrantee expressed or implied yatta yatta yatta note: I totally stole this from other TickleServices code which came with the app... one of the reasons it is so good! It lets you setup things that you know how to do so that others can do then as well. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+ On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Orrin C. Kerr wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 AUG 1995 15:55:30 GMT > From: Orrin C. Kerr <ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Printing a directory listing > > How can you print out a listing from the File Browser? Is there a way?? > > I know how to get a listing of a directory using a terminal session and > the Unix commands cd and ls. That what I showed to one of my users who > came to me asking how she could print out a directory listing. > > While the Unix weeny way works (hmmm. How alliterative.), I would rather > that my users were *not* poing about in terminal sessions where they can > do Bad Things. Does anyone know of a way to print the File Broser lists? > > TIA > > -- > Orrin C. Kerr > ad244@freenet.carleton.ca > All opinions expressed are my own and not the responsibility of > my innocent employer (who shall remain nameless)(but it's gummint). > >
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: formatting ED disks Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:05:53 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821160156.22098F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can anyone explain to my why my 2.88 MB ED disks format to only 2.5MB? Ok, maybe it isn't a huge amount, but still.. I see this mesage in th console.log, does it explain things better? /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rfd0a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rfd0a 2784 18 2 8192 1024 32 0 5 2048 s Warning: 24 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rfd0a: 2784 sectors in 78 cylinders of 2 tracks, 18 sectors 2.9Mb in 3 cyl groups (32 c/g, 1.18Mb/g, 384 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 1192, 2320, initialization complete any help appreciated. BTW I found them in Computer Shopper for $1.49 (for quantities less than 50, $1.39 >50) at a place called Midwestern Diskette (800) 221-6332. In all 800+ pages of Computer Shopper these are the only ones I found... just thought someone else might be interested. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: xilef@harka (Felix Rauch) Subject: Re: Any Cool NeXTSTEP Logo's out there? Sender: news@mighty.limmat.net.ch (Picture Decoder) Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <DDo6z3.H9p@mighty.limmat.net.ch> References: <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com> <anb-2108950017100001@dial-berk1-17.iway.aimnet.com> <418eo0$bt9@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:54:38 GMT > >In article <406jp9$5j9@news.internetmci.com>, "Charles C. Hocker" > ><american@aztec.asu.edu> wrote: > >> I guess the title say's it all. I was just wondering where to get > >> some NS logo's other then the one's that came with the OS itself. Well, it's not really a logo, but one of the best NeXT-Pictures I've seen (especially around these days when Win95 is released). It's around 60k and can by found at "http://www.phantom.com/~bruce" if it's still there. :-) - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail and MIME welcome) For pgp public key finger felix.pgp@nice.ethz.ch
From: deniseh@shell1.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: ObjectWorld - HOT HIGHLIGHTS Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 21 Aug 1995 23:00:51 GMT Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <41b373$bv@news1.best.com> References: <40s3ql$2r7@crl9.crl.com> <41114o$lg7@digdug.pencom.com> On a local (bay area) TV station last night during their occasional focus on Silicon Valley happenings, they did a quick story about NeXT! They mentioned that OpenStep was highly regarded at this year's ObjectWorld, and they showed an excerpt of Steve Jobs talking about it. (Looked like it might've been from a panel session or something rather than a keynote.) I wish I could tell more details but I was actually in another room when shouts of "Come here quick and see this!" emanated from my living room. Did anyone else see this so they can report further? Of course, the next commercial break was an ad for an upcoming interview with Bill Gates regarding Windows '95. Do you think Microsquish could get any more free advertising? :-\ Denise
From: aprwsa@ix.netcom.com (Julie Sulston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need info on the Academic Bundle Date: 19 Aug 1995 08:53:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4148qo$qtb@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Can someone please tell me about the academic bundle, what it comes with, the price and the phone number please. Thanks Julie
From: jbevan@actual.com (James Bevan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Start me up Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 09:04:59 GMT Organization: Secureactual Limited Sender: jbevan@calculus.demon.co.uk (James Bevan) Message-ID: <DDJvwC.AB@calculus.demon.co.uk> Maybe NeXT could use "Paint it Black" for NS4.0 for Intel :-) > Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny Subject: TOPICAL & ORIGINAL Re: > Win 95 advertising campaign From: fritzson@susq.com (Richard > Fritzson) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:20:02 EDT > > I came home last night and > reported to my wife that Microsoft had just paid millions of > dollars for the rights to use a Rolling Stones song in their > new Windows 95 advertising campaign. > > Her immediate response was: Must be "Can't get no > satisfaction.". > > -- Selected by Jim Griffith. MAIL your joke to > funny@clari.net. Attribute the joke's source if at all > possible. A Daemon will auto-reply. > > Remember: Always give your jokes a descriptive "Subject:" > line. Don't use "joke" or "submission" or "joke submission," > please. > -- James Bevan jbevan@actual.com NeXTMail & MIME welcome
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing a directory listing Date: 22 Aug 1995 00:18:59 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <sams.809075439@shell2.best.com> References: <DDo48I.2AF@freenet.carleton.ca> ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Orrin C. Kerr) writes: >How can you print out a listing from the File Browser? Is there a way?? There's lots of ways... I would write a terminal service that runs in the background, accepts a file or directory as an arg, chops the name into just the dir (using a combo of sh, awk, sed, or dirname) then pipes the output of ls to the printer or maybe openfile. This will appear in the services menu and you can assign a command key to it. Others might suggest doing this with TickleServices. I hope this is clear enough; it's really simple once you know what to do... 8^) -sam
From: suckow@ bln.sel.alcatel.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing a directory listing Date: 22 Aug 1995 07:24:58 GMT Organization: Alcatel/Bell Distribution: world Message-ID: <41c0ob$c3q@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821154202.22098E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes > > I don't know how, but I bet you could write a TickleService for it in > about 5 minutes! > [ Tickle Services solution deleted] > > > > On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Orrin C. Kerr wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 21 AUG 1995 15:55:30 GMT > > From: Orrin C. Kerr <ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> > > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > > Subject: Printing a directory listing > > > > How can you print out a listing from the File Browser? Is there a way?? > > [ Unix command line solution deleted ] You could also define a service in Terminal.app (Info/terminal Services ..) with the following parameters: Command: ls -l %s | lpr Accept: Files Use selection: On Cmd Line Execution: Run Service in the Background, Discard Output, Default Shell. Unfortunately, I don't have a printer on my machine to test what is printed, but the print job appears in PrintManager.app. -- Ralf Suckow |---------------------------------- suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de | All opinions are mine, just mine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader (2 PDF Viewers) Message-ID: <1995Aug21.140502.721@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <4163gn$kfh@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 14:05:02 GMT There are 2 PDF readers for NS. There's one called PDFViewer.app (version 0.66, by Detlev Droege) and one called PDFView.app (version 1.0, by Gunther Furthaller (OneVision)). The info panel for PDFViewer says that it expires on 29Aug95. There is no stated expiration date for PDFView, and from the message from Gunther in the help window, it doesn't look like there is one). Both are on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Peanuts). -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: uzs198@uni-bonn.de (Nik Wiesel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIP with NeXTSTEP? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 14:04:17 UNDEFINED Organization: Private Message-ID: <uzs198.162.001B5AB9@uni-bonn.de> Hi, what is necessary for getting a SLIP connection from a NeXTSTEP running PC? Where are the appropriate tools available? Thanx in advance for any help... ------------------------------ Nik Wiesel: UZS198@UNI-BONN.DE ========================================================================= The above statement is my own opinion and does not represent the point of view of any organization I am related to. =========================================================================
From: jac@mariana.tcs.com (Gordon Jacobs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Xgraph type Plotting on NeXT? Date: 22 Aug 1995 10:37:25 -0700 Organization: TCSI Sender: Gordon Jacobs Message-ID: <41d4kl$3lq@mariana.tcs.com> Summary: plotting programs I have a NeXT 040 Cube that I intend to use on a new project, however I don't have any good plotting software. Most of my Unix developed programs write out files in Xgraph format for plotting. Can anyone point me to public domain or possibly commercial NeXTStep software that would provide basic plotting and perhaps be close to Xgraph compatible in file format??? (Xgraph is just 2-column data with sets separated by a blank line. Comments are lines with a # at the beginning and a " indicates a data set label...) THANKS Gordie Jacobs jac@tcs.com
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LOST HARDWARE PASSWD Date: 21 Aug 1995 23:40:25 GMT Organization: I'm not really all that organized. Message-ID: <41b5h9$irk@bunyan.covenant.edu> References: <40r4gq$6cp@decaxp.harvard.edu> <STREBEL2.95Aug17160822@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> I didn't see the original post, but I can guess... Isn't there a little battery somewhere that if you take the battery out, the computer forgets the hardware password? Then you just start over. If I am addressing the right problem, that is simpler than Stephen Trebel's solution of borrowing someone's boot disk. Cheers, Don Petcher
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI Problem -- Solved! Date: 22 Aug 1995 21:27:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <41di41$n3m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: SCSI PLI Super Floppy Back in July I posted a HELP! message concerning a SCSI device mount problem: >When I connect my PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 (set to "6", term switch "on") and >my external hard drive (set to "4") to the SCSI on my NeXT Cube, the floppy >does not respond, and, although the HD appears to be available, if I try to >use it, the system completely hangs. Here's the configuration: > > SCSI SCSI > |NeXT|--->|HARD |--->|FLOPPY| (term) > |Cube| |DRIVE| |DRIVE | > >Used individually, the floppy and hard drives work fine. This is under NS 3.2. >However, I didn't have any trouble using them together under NS 2.1. > >Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? The solution, after many tries, was to use a *lower* SCSI number for the PLI Superfloppy. We set it to "3". Only then would both the PLI and the external hard drive come up and mount properly. Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: chou@cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Newsgroups: grads,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help Subject: HELP: Problem with installing gcc-2.7.0 on a NeXT Date: 22 Aug 1995 21:29:23 GMT Organization: UCLA Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <41di7j$8i1@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> I was not able to install gcc-2.7.0 on a Motorola 68040-based NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1. The following script shows what happened: [chou.254] pwd /usr/local/src/gcc-2.7.0 [chou.255] configure This appears to be a m68k-next-nextstep2 system. Using `./config/m68k/next.c' to output insns. Using `./config/m68k/m68k.md' as machine description file. Using `./config/m68k/next21.h' as target machine macro file. Using `./config/m68k/xm-next.h' as host machine macro file. Merged m68k/x-next. Merged m68k/t-next. Merged c++ fragment(s). Created `./Makefile'. Merged m68k/x-next. Merged m68k/t-next. Created `cp/Makefile'. Links are now set up to build a native compiler for m68k-next-nextstep2. [chou.256] cd cp [chou.257] make LANGUAGES=c cc -traditional-cpp -c -DIN_GCC -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -I./../config call.c cc: unrecognized option `-traditional-cpp' cc -traditional-cpp -c -DIN_GCC -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -I./../config decl.c cc: unrecognized option `-traditional-cpp' cc -traditional-cpp -c -DIN_GCC -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -I./../config errfn.c cc: unrecognized option `-traditional-cpp' Make: Don't know how to make ../insn-codes.h. Stop. [chou.258] I'd appreciate any pointers as to what went wrong. Since I do not read most of these newsgroups, please send your replies to <chou@cs.ucla.edu>. Many thanks in advance! - Ching Tsun
From: pkoren@icarus.cs.weber.edu (Peter Koren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Xgraph type Plotting on NeXT? Date: 22 Aug 1995 18:28:56 GMT Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <41d7l8$5o0@news.cc.utah.edu> References: <41d4kl$3lq@mariana.tcs.com> In article <41d4kl$3lq@mariana.tcs.com>, jac@mariana.tcs.com (Gordon Jacobs) writes: |> I have a NeXT 040 Cube that I intend to use on a new project, |> however I don't have any good plotting software. Most of my |> Unix developed programs write out files in Xgraph format for |> plotting. Can anyone point me to public domain or possibly |> commercial NeXTStep software that would provide basic plotting |> and perhaps be close to Xgraph compatible in file format??? |> (Xgraph is just 2-column data with sets separated by a blank line. |> Comments are lines with a # at the beginning and a " indicates |> a data set label...) |> |> THANKS |> Gordie Jacobs |> jac@tcs.com |> I loaded a NeXTstep version of Gnuplot and IMHO it is outstanding. It combines a NeXTstep front end with a previous version of Gnuplot available for other systems. It is trivial to learn. Enjoy! get it at: for Black - I Think ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/plotting/Gnuplot1.2_bin.README ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/plotting/Gnuplot1.2_bin.tar.Z for any hardware you need the source which I compiled at the same place with "sources" replacing "binaries" in the path and "src" replacing "bin" in the file names. Peter A. Koren pkoren@icarus.weber.edu
From: frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Compiling? html type? Date: 23 Aug 1995 15:16:19 GMT Organization: Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit"at Bonn, Institut Message-ID: <41fgo3$4i3@apoll.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Hi all, after adding some -posix here and there in the makefiles, I managed to get freeWAIS-sf-1.1 to what seems up and running on NextStep 3.3. Unfortunately it does not have an html type. freeWAIS-0.3 has that, but I did not get that one to compile correctly :-( I tried to incorporate the relevant parts of freeWAIS-0.3 into freeWAIS-sf-1.1, which did at least compile, and after reindexing with -t html I get document types of "html", but the headlines still show the filename instead of the title! So, what I would like to know is: - what freeWAIS compiles on NS 3.3 and has an html type? (or what do I have to do to get it compiling?) - how do I pose queries that give me the title as well as the filename of the .html files found? Maybe I just gave the wrong arguments to waisindex and waisq, so please anyone tell me what to do there. This is really urgent, so any help is highly appreciated. Thank you, Joerg. P.S. if there are any examples on how to incorporate results of wais queries into html code with a perl script or something like that, please let me know.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tektronix Printer Date: 23 Aug 1995 05:52:41 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <41efn9$83m@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <41ahgo$g0h@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> kulickja@saturn.aitc.rest.tasc.com. (Judy A. Kulick) wrote: > Wondering if anyone out there has had problems adding a Tektronix > 220i/240 color printer to a NeXTStep network? We can ping the > printer and the network sees it as a host, but the jobs sit in > the queue. Any suggestions? > We added a network card, set it up for RJ45 on the network, put > it in the netinfo host table, set it up in print manager, sent > it an authorization code and tcp/ip via our MAC, but nothing but > the MAC can print to it. Be careful about what network card you're talking about. NeXT would want to talk to that printer as if it was a unix host. It's talking TCP/IP. The Mac, which you say is working, is probably *not* talking TCP/IP. If you're using the standard LaserWriter driver in the Chooser, then it's talking Appletalk. The reason I say this is that we have a number of Tektronix printers here at RPI (um, maybe 15 of them). We talk to the printers via CAP (Appletalk), we do not talk to them via TCP/IP. The first Tektronix printers we bought had two *different* options. One was for TCP/IP over ethernet, and the other (which we got) was for Ethertalk. I don't know if they still divide it up that way. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: uucp email provider(s) sought Date: 24 Aug 1995 00:12:45 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <41gg5t$h82@emerald.oz.net> We have several offices and customers across the U.S. We would like to find a GOOD uucp email provider that can provide local connectivity in Chicago, Atlanta, and possibly Seattle and other cities. It may not be possible to find once provider that can provide access from everywhere. We have just had a poor experience with Global Connect who didn't seem to be able to provide the level of service we need. They didn't appear to understand how NeXT's uucp works and may have been running a uucp version that just didn't connect well with NS's uucp. We had far too many failed connects due to time-outs after successful login. This resulted in very slow inbound mail delivery. They finally grew weary of our complaints and we grew weary of their service. Can anyone recommend a reasonably-priced uucp email provider that works well with NS's uucp in Chicago, Atlanta, and Seattle? Thanks. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Server keeps crashing every five days In-Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us's message of Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:52:14 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Aug23223216@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:32:16 GMT I suspect httpd. What version of sendmail are you running? Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088 In article <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: I've been having a problem lately where my server will crash every five days. I'm running NeXTStep 3.3, and I suspect either sendmail, or more likely, the CERN httpd to be a big part of the problem. I checked /usr/adm/messages, and I have a *ton* of this in it: Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc last message repeated 43 times Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:25:22 nvcc last message repeated 27 times Aug 18 07:25:28 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc last message repeated 14 times Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:26:00 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc last message repeated 54 times Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:27:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:27:01 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:27:28 nvcc last message repeated 12 times Aug 18 07:27:28 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc last message repeated 41 times Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:28:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Aug 18 07:28:02 nvcc mach: enrx: no network buffers Aug 18 07:29:00 nvcc last message repeated 42 times Is there a fix for this, short of stopping the computer from being a web or mail sever? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: krebs@faps.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Krebs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: boot only successful with -v -- please help Date: 23 Aug 1995 11:48:32 GMT Organization: FAPS, University of Erlangen Message-ID: <41f4ig$e4s@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Keywords: boot Hello, I have a problem booting NextStep on my intel-pentium. It's a 100MHZ pentium on an asus board with adaptec 2940w and a seagate 4GB disk and a fujitsu cdrom. It only comes up when I boot with -v or with config=Default. If I do not give these boot parameters the screen gets dark and does not show the boot window and does not come up. If I type "-v" on booting the machine comes up fine!! What is my problem? Thomas --- Thomas Krebs Department for Manufacturing Automation and Production Systems FAPS University of Erlangen Egerlandstr. 7-9 91058 Erlangen Tel.: +49 (0)9131/85-8740 Fax: +49 (0)9131/302528 http://www.faps.uni-erlangen.de:1200/persons/krebs.html
From: chiu7134@sparky.cs.nyu.edu (Chiu Wen-Shin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multibooting with linux and dos??? how. Date: 24 Aug 1995 04:17:59 GMT Organization: New York University Message-ID: <41guhn$o6k@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> how to multiboot next, linux and dos on the same PC? Thanks.
From: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff Hopson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wanted: good expansion dictionary Date: 24 Aug 1995 07:04:36 GMT Organization: BT plc Distribution: world Message-ID: <41h8a4$2nl@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simple query, really. Is there a decent expansion dictionary (~/.editdict) for Edit available somewhere? Does some kind soul wish to donate theirs to me? Please e-mail responses. If I get enough examples, I'll collate them and make a super dooper expansion dictionary available someplace. Thanks in advance, Geoff --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Geoff Hopson | E-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk Intelligence Software Systems | Tel: +44 1473 644380 Room G11 B67 | Fax: +44 1473 640468 BT Laboratories | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BT NEXTSTEP Users: http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah/nextstep/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: boot only successful with -v -- please help Date: 24 Aug 1995 14:22:38 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <41i1ve$93v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <41f4ig$e4s@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thomas Krebs (krebs@faps.uni-erlangen.de) wrote: : Hello, : I have a problem booting NextStep on my intel-pentium. : It's a 100MHZ pentium on an asus board with adaptec 2940w and a seagate : 4GB disk and a fujitsu cdrom. : It only comes up when I boot with -v or with config=Default. : If I do not give these boot parameters the screen gets dark and does not : show the boot window and does not come up. : If I type "-v" on booting the machine comes up fine!! It has been mentioned on c.s.n.* several times that this is due to a problem with Triton based boards in conjunction with S3 based video. A workaround is to set "Boot Graphics" = "No"; in /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multibooting with linux and dos??? how. Date: 24 Aug 1995 14:26:44 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <41i274$945@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <41guhn$o6k@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chiu Wen-Shin (chiu7134@sparky.cs.nyu.edu) wrote: : how to multiboot next, linux and dos on the same PC? My usual way to configure a NeXT/Linux/DOS multiboot is to make partition 0: DOS partition 1: NeXT partition 2: Linux swap partition 3: Linux native Install dos first. Make the four partitions using fdisk of dos. Then install NeXTSTEP. Install Linux last and put lilo on the boot block of partition 3. When you boot, you'll get the NeXTSTEP multibooter. You can select d for dos, n for nextstep and 4 (partition number) for linux. I think it should be possible without lilo, but never tried. Don't know about the implications of disks > 1 GB also. This scheme worked perfectly on a 730 MB Quantum. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: steve@xray.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Xgraph type Plotting on NeXT? Date: 24 Aug 1995 15:12:03 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <41i4s3$3km@larry.rice.edu> References: <41d4kl$3lq@mariana.tcs.com> Gordon Jacobs (jac@mariana.tcs.com) wrote: : I have a NeXT 040 Cube that I intend to use on a new project, : however I don't have any good plotting software. Most of my : Unix developed programs write out files in Xgraph format for : plotting. Can anyone point me to public domain or possibly : commercial NeXTStep software that would provide basic plotting : and perhaps be close to Xgraph compatible in file format??? : (Xgraph is just 2-column data with sets separated by a blank line. : Comments are lines with a # at the beginning and a " indicates : a data set label...) The program you want is SciPlot. It is at least an order of magnitude better than gnuplot (even with a GUI). You can get it from: http://calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de/software/software.html For 3d plotting try NXplot3d: ftp://ion.rice.edu/pub/next/plotting/NXplot3d.3.2.FAT.tar.gz Both programs will read simple space or tab delimited data. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ludtke | Physics Dept., Rice Univ. steve@ion.rice.edu | stevel@alumni.caltech.edu | * Those who do ARE * 72335,1537 @ compuserve | The converse also holds
From: chou@cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Newsgroups: grads,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help Subject: Re: HELP: Problem with installing gcc-2.7.0 on a NeXT Date: 24 Aug 1995 17:47:44 GMT Organization: UCLA Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <41ie00$7ht@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> A few days ago I posted a query about the problem I had when building gcc-2.7.0 on a Motorola 68040-based NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1. I think I figured out what was wrong: (1) the Makefile generated by "configure" left the variable "target" unset, and (2) I should've run "make" in .../gcc-2.7.0 instead of .../gcc-2.7.0/cp After I corrected these, I was able to follow the installation guide to the last step. There is, however, one problem left: "make compare" says there is difference between stage 2 and stage 3. The script is enclosed below. I'd appreciate any comments! - Ching Tsun [chou.49] make compare for file in *.o; do tail +16c ./$file > tmp-foo1; tail +16c stage2/$file > tmp-foo2 2>/dev/null && (cmp tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 || echo $file differs); done tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 bc-emit.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 44, line 1 bc-optab.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 bi-lexer.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 bi-parser.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 2 c-aux-info.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 c-common.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 c-convert.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 44, line 1 c-decl.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 c-iterate.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 44, line 1 c-lex.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 c-parse.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 44, line 1 c-typeck.o differs tmp-foo1 tmp-foo2 differ: char 45, line 1 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From: blindsey@heimdall (Ben Lindsey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: formatting ED disks Date: 24 Aug 1995 18:25:52 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <41ig7g$12u@news.onramp.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821160156.22098F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> I believe this is normal BSD4.3 filesystem overhead. Ben Lindsey Bifrost Workstations, Inc blindsey@onramp.net "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >can anyone explain to my why my 2.88 MB ED disks format to only 2.5MB? >Ok, maybe it isn't a huge amount, but still.. >I see this mesage in th console.log, does it explain things better? >/usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rfd0a >setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 >/etc/mkfs /dev/rfd0a 2784 18 2 8192 1024 32 0 5 2048 s >Warning: 24 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated >/dev/rfd0a: 2784 sectors in 78 cylinders of 2 tracks, 18 sectors > 2.9Mb in 3 cyl groups (32 c/g, 1.18Mb/g, 384 i/g) >super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: > 16, 1192, 2320, >initialization complete >any help appreciated. >BTW I found them in Computer Shopper for $1.49 (for quantities less than >50, $1.39 >50) at a place called Midwestern Diskette (800) 221-6332. In >all 800+ pages of Computer Shopper these are the only ones I found... >just thought someone else might be interested. >TjL >-- >Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu >NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell >"If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." > *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lyna@netcom.com (L. Faucett) Subject: Re: FS: NeXt equip-- cheap {more info} Message-ID: <lynaDDu02D.FwC@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <lynaDDItHn.6vG@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 20:11:01 GMT Sender: lyna@netcom12.netcom.com More info for those still interested: I just got clarification from our corporate tax dept that I should try to sell the units first b/4 resorting to a donation [sigh]. I will be sending responses to bids already received. Priority will be given to those who 1) can complete the transaction quickly; 2) can pick up the units or pay for shipping. In looking at the stuff again, I've learned that one or both units may have lotus & graphics software on it. They each have the Next 3.2 operating system. Unfortunately, with the boot-up external drive not functioning correctly, I cannot check the system to see what software is on there. I can say that when the system was working (about 2 months) ago, I noticed that it had all the basic word processing software, a scanner software, some object maniuplating software and much more. Please do not ask for major hardware specs b/c I do not know them and do not have the time to check on this. Buyers should be aware that the systems will be sold as is. Neither I nor my company offer any sort of warranty on the units. I can only say that I was told that the unit is operable & repairable. As a non-techie, I don't know how much work you'll need to get it going. L. Faucett (lyna@netcom.com) wrote: : First, thanks to all who've expressed interest. : I wanted to give you all an update. : The 2 turbocolor Nexts are complete sets: : Each has 32mb RAM; 400HD; external drive of 400HD (I'm not sure about the : hard disk memory--see note below). : Each has a 21" megapixel color display (one still in the box). : each has a 400 dpi laser printer (one still in the box) : each has a keyboard, and a "sound" box. : I believe all the cable are available (but you might need to buy some if : I can't figure out which cable is which). : These units were purchase in January 1993 by another department within : our company (a large bank in CA). Since then, the units were transferred : to my department & hence I don't have the original purchase invoice which : would detail the specs. : I know that the internal hard disk works. I'm told however, that the : unit uses the external hard disk to boot up and there is some sort of : error on that external hd. The former user of the machine doesn't think : that this is a difficult problem to correct, providing that one knows : what one is doing. : So far, I've had a few "so-so" monetary offer -- around $1500 per unit. : I know that they each worth at least double. My main concern is that I : need to move them out of their current location asap. Moreover, I do : have a real job & don't have the time to deal with this. : The front runner as of today are a couple of non-profit organizations (a : hospital, a school in TN, and a computer recycling center in CA). If : these don't pan out by NeXt week, I'll resort back to the interested buyers. : I hope I'm not making all of this too complicated. I know NeXt users are : a hardy group & would like to see the machines put to good use. It's : just that I don't really have the time to deal with all the gritty details. : If you are interested, please send email (and include your phone number). : Due to high volume of email, please be patient. Check back here for : additional news, if you haven't heard from me by August 28. : Thanks again. : BTW, Bell Atlantic refurbishes NeXT computers for resale. They said that : there is a waiting list of people wanting to sell the TurboColors so they : weren't interested in buying mine. If you want used Next, call them at : 1 800 499 NEXT. : -- : --lyna@netcom.com : "Are we there yet????" -- --lyna@netcom.com "Are we there yet????"
From: cpayne@optical (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Server keeps crashing every five days Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 24 Aug 1995 22:02:16 GMT Organization: Fibernet! Satisfy the need for speed Message-ID: <41ist8$moe@optical.fiber.net> References: <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> <RDL.95Aug23223216@world.std.com> Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote: : I suspect httpd. What version of sendmail are you running? : In article <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: : I checked /usr/adm/messages, and I have a *ton* of this in it: : Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc last message repeated 43 times : Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full Iseriously doubt it's the CERN server. I used to get the same thing, but only when radiusd was running (bad int call). Either machine, black or white, and the x86 doesn't run CERN. SO, I strongly suggest it's none of the above. IME, it's radiusd, which I can help you fix. If you're not running radiusd, maybe it's TACACS, or something similar. If I can help, mail me a fresh (post-boot) ps -ax and a netstat -a -- Carl Payne cpayne@fiber.net <--NeXTMAIL, MIME, ASCII all OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc References: <41f4ig$e4s@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> From: "Christian Pekeler" <pekeler@luck.shnet.org> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 18:31:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: boot only successful with -v -- please help Message-ID: <29790858@luck.shnet.org> Thomas Krebs: > It only comes up when I boot with -v or with config=Default. > If I do not give these boot parameters the screen gets dark and > does not show the boot window and does not come up. If you are using a S3 based video card read this.... : NEXTSTEP Tech Support Frequently Asked Questions : : Title: Tech Support Frequently Asked Questions : Entry Number: 1470 : Last Updated: <<Date July 12 1995>> [...] : Using an Intel Triton based motherboard and a S3 based video card : : Q: When my system boots the screen turns black right when the : boot graphics should appear, and it does not appear to : finish the boot sequence. : : A: Systems using motherboards based on the Intel Triton PCI : chipset and video cards based on an S3 chip lock up when : boot graphics are enabled. In order to boot the system, : you must disable boot graphics. : : To boot NEXTSTEP without boot graphics, you need to restart : the computer in verbose mode. At the boot: prompt type: : : boot: -v : : Also, it is possible to dissable boot graphics using the : Configure application found in /NextAdmin. When Configure : launches, there is a Summary of Devices panel. Click on the : "Expert..." button to edit the Expert Settings. Double : click on the word "Yes" after "Boot Graphics" and change it : to "No". Hit return, click ok and save your changes. Now : when you boot, the system will automatically go into verbose : mode. Christian
From: rdennett@aol.com (RDennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT on Mac PC card Date: 24 Aug 1995 21:28:58 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <41j90q$t56@newsbf02.news.aol.com> This may seem like jumping through a lot of hoops, but since I am primarily a Mac programmer with a unhealthy obsession with NEXTSTEP <g> I wanted to see if I could run the Intel version on DOS Compatible card for Mac (or OrangePC or whatever). I am mainly interested in NeXT for experimental/learning purposes so I don't want to spend the dough for an old Cube or a PC that probably wouldn't see much use. Anyway, has anyone out there ever tried this? What kinds of pitfalls do I have to look forward to? I appreciate any responses. Please email me at rdennett@aol.com since I don't read this newsgroup too often. TIA, Rob Dennett
From: nweaver@madrone.cs.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any HTML editors??? Date: 25 Aug 1995 04:16:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <41jir2$m3q@agate.berkeley.edu> Are there any WYSIWYG editors for HTML under NeXTstep? And are demos available anywhere? -- Nicholas C. Weaver http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~nweaver It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing Ash C++ durbatuluk, ash C++ gimbatul, ash C++ thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!
From: mpicorne@mail.pressimage.fr (Marc PICORNELL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Pb with NS3.3 and MIRO BOARD Date: 24 Aug 1995 21:22:02 GMT Organization: Pressimage Message-ID: <41iqhq$jhq@unix.pressimage.fr> I ve got kernel pannic when i install miro board drivers for Miro 20 SV NS work well with VGA but i want to use 1024*768 My video board work well under other OS Here my hardware PCI Mother-board P75 Mhz Bios AWARD 4.50 G 9/02/95 PCI Chipset SIS 40 Mo RAM PCI CARD Buslogic BT946C Bios 4.90 Firmware 4.23 Miro 20 SV 2.13 (BT9485DAC) When i use a very old drivers i ve got something wrong on the screen and with 2.0 drivers nothing and kernel panic Thanks for your help I desasparate Marc
From: davis@coaster.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Xgraph type Plotting on NeXT? Date: 24 Aug 1995 23:02:36 -0500 Organization: independent Message-ID: <41ji0s$7hi@coaster.coaster.com> References: <41d4kl$3lq@mariana.tcs.com> <41i4s3$3km@larry.rice.edu> Steve Ludtke <steve@xray.rice.edu> wrote: > >Gordon Jacobs (jac@mariana.tcs.com) wrote: >: I have a NeXT 040 Cube that I intend to use on a new project, >: however I don't have any good plotting software. Most of my >: Unix developed programs write out files in Xgraph format for >: plotting. Can anyone point me to public domain or possibly >: commercial NeXTStep software that would provide basic plotting >: and perhaps be close to Xgraph compatible in file format??? >: (Xgraph is just 2-column data with sets separated by a blank line. >: Comments are lines with a # at the beginning and a " indicates >: a data set label...) > >The program you want is SciPlot. It is at least an order of magnitude better >than gnuplot (even with a GUI). You can get it from: >http://calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de/software/software.html > As the author of the NeXTSTEP front end for gnuplot (way back when), I have to agree that SciPlot is much better for all but the simplest plots. When I grafted the NS interface onto gnuplot, I didn't want to change anything about the plotting engine (and the more code I saw, the less and less I wanted to), I just wanted to make it look and feel like a NeXTSTEP app. (Course it's free, too.) I'm not familiar with Xgraph, but if it's just 2-column ASCII data, I imagine most plotting software (spreadsheets included) could accommodate you. You might have to pull some strings to get the "data sets separated by a blank line" to come out right. If you're familiar with some UNIX utilities like perl, awk, or sed, you could probably whip something out that would turn the Xgraph into something your plotting software could grok. Rob -- Robert Davis (davis@coaster.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app (in NS 3.2) does not load, .lock file keeps reappearing Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 25 Aug 1995 09:36:55 GMT Organization: Abo Akademi University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Aug25123655@medusa.abo.fi> When I try to run Mail.app the program fails to open. There is a file in ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/.lock. If I delete this file, it reappears immediately. Some process seems to create it, but I don't know which. Is there a way to make the .lock file from reappearing? I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti/welcome.html | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-0-718 727 (Home) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office) | 358-21-2654 677 (Fax)
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Server keeps crashing every five days Date: 25 Aug 1995 14:32:55 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <41kmun$78l@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <41ist8$moe@optical.fiber.net> In article <41ist8$moe@optical.fiber.net> cpayne@optical (Carl Payne) writes: > Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote: > : I suspect httpd. What version of sendmail are you running? > > : In article <DDIMv3.AK5@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: > : I checked /usr/adm/messages, and I have a *ton* of this in it: > : Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc last message repeated 43 times > : Aug 18 07:25:00 nvcc mach: proc: table is full > > Iseriously doubt it's the CERN server. I used to get the same thing, but only > when radiusd was running (bad int call). Either machine, black or white, and > the x86 doesn't run CERN. SO, I strongly suggest it's none of the above. IME, > it's radiusd, which I can help you fix. If you're not running radiusd, maybe > it's TACACS, or something similar. > > If I can help, mail me a fresh (post-boot) ps -ax and a netstat -a > Yep, it probably is not httpd. Our web server is currently CERN 3.0 httpd (soon to be switching to apache!) and has been up for: 9:31am up 28 days, 16:10, 0 user, load average: 0.42, 0.18, 0.18 No problems with the daemon. Now, this is the _only_ thing this particular NEXTSTEP box does. No logins, etc... > -- > Carl Payne > cpayne@fiber.net <--NeXTMAIL, MIME, ASCII all OK -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * <URL:http://www.egr.uh.edu/~sears/> Engineering Computing Center * SSI Diving Certification #755020059 NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime." ******* I do not represent the University of Houston *********
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Gordon Van Huizen (Please ignore unless you are Gordon) Date: 25 Aug 1995 15:19:09 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <41kpld$qpn@news4.digex.net> Sorry to post this to this group. But I know Gordon is having some mail problems and I have no other way to get in touch with him. Gordon, I've been trying to contact you re the ProPort, but am having no luck getting any mail to you. Would you please contact me and tell me what the status is? You can get me at (908) 753-7805. Thanks. -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to generate Mac-readable EPS/TIFF files on a NeXT Date: 25 Aug 1995 15:49:06 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <41krdi$2aq@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hallo, does somebody know how to konvert a NeXT-EPS file (generated for example by Diagram or Draw, so that a Macintosh can read it into Canvas 3.5. or PageMaker 5.0? It seems that Mac-Apps do not execpt any of my PS/TIFF files generated on a NeXT. What do I have do to? (This is a very, very urgent request, because I have to send away Mac-readable ps/tiff/pict files generated from figures I have created on a NeXT on TUESDAY, 28 August 1995) -- ___________________________________________________________ Robert Mueller Tel. (+49) (0) 6131 17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. (+49) (0) 6131 17 29 68 (Institute Fax) Projektgruppe "TheMPO" Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universitaetskliniken Mainz
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any HTML editors??? Date: 25 Aug 1995 18:35:55 +0100 Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <41l1lr$8t@rainix.jena.thur.de> References: <41jir2$m3q@agate.berkeley.edu> Nicholas C. Weaver (nweaver@madrone.cs.berkeley.edu) wrote: : Are there any WYSIWYG editors for HTML under NeXTstep? And : are demos available anywhere? There is WebPages by Pages. Don't know if there is a demo available. But remeber that the concrete appearance of your document depends on the web-browser! That's why I prefer an editor called vi ;-) And if you plan to do some nice cgi-programming, you won't have any WYSIWYG editor. Rainer -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | e-mail private Rainer.Sokoll@Jena.Thur.De work rainer@con.de (NeXTMail ok) | | http://www.con.de/~rainer | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: translationprogram English <-> German Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 25 Aug 1995 18:41:28 +0100 Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <41l208$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> References: <41f6ns$it4@next01.biw-ag.de> Martin Polzer (polzerj@biw-ag.de) wrote: : Hi, : I looking for a translationprogram where I can translate automatically : text from English in German and the way round. : Can somebody tell me, where I can buy a tool like this for NEXTSTEP. The best way is to buy a dictionary - runs with all OSes ;-) Rainer -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | e-mail private Rainer.Sokoll@Jena.Thur.De work rainer@con.de (NeXTMail ok) | | http://www.con.de/~rainer | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Problem with installing gcc-2.7.0 on a NeXT Message-ID: <993@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: 25 Aug 95 17:21:07 GMT References: <41ie00$7ht@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> Sender: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands In article <41ie00$7ht@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> chou@cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) writes: > A few days ago I posted a query about the problem I had when > building gcc-2.7.0 on a Motorola 68040-based NeXTstation > running NeXTSTEP 2.1. I think I figured out what was wrong: > (1) the Makefile generated by "configure" left the variable "target" > unset, and Most certainly a problem with NeXT's sed (see how the various variables are filled in with sed in the Makefile from Makefile.in - especially the difference in invocation of sed for 2.7.0 versus 2.6.3). > (2) I should've run "make" in .../gcc-2.7.0 instead of .../gcc-2.7.0/cp > After I corrected these, I was able to follow the installation guide > to the last step. Unfortunately, you shouldn't have done that (explained below). > There is, however, one problem left: "make compare" says there is > difference between stage 2 and stage 3. The script is enclosed below. > I'd appreciate any comments! That's not surprising, as the INSTALL file sez: 12. Recompile the compiler with itself, with this command: make CC="stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/" CFLAGS="-g -O" and: 13. If you wish to test the compiler by compiling it with itself one more time, [ ... ] then do this: make stage2 make CC="stage2/xgcc -Bstage2/" CFLAGS="-g -O2" ^^^ NOTE Somebody at FSF was asleep when they did their quality control - this is a sure way to get 'make compare' to fail - the stage 2 (point 12) and stage 3 (point 13) compiler should be compiled with EXACTLY THE SAME COMPILE OPTIONS, or else ... Just choose one of both (I use "-g -O3" here - NeXTStation Color) for months now, without adverse effects. -- Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl) Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands Phone: +31 3461 4290; Fax: +31 3461 4286 URL: http://www.knmi.nl/hirlam
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com.> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CHICAGO: Trading Systems Objective C Nextstep Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:37:29 PDT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.25087.809383724.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SALARY: 50-90K PLUS BONUS Job description: Developer on a 15 member team to develop derivatives risk management and processing system. Developer would use state-of-the-art object oriented development techniques and work with front office and back office personnel to meet the requirements of a cutting edge derivatives operation. Business skills required A suitable individual would probably have at least one or two years with a major Bank or systems house developing swaps, options or fixed income trading systems. He should enjoy working in a dynamic and demanding trading room environment and should have a flexible and innovative outlook. Technical Skills required The individual should have extensive C experience (5 yrs+) and exposure to some form of Object Oriented Development language such as C++ or Smalltalk. Knowledge of NEXTSTEP is not required but would be a plus. In addition he should have a minimum of two years knowledge of Unix systems (BSD or System V), have developed applications using a Graphical User Interface (e.g. Windows, Motif), and be familiar with either Sybase or Oracle RDBMS. A working knowledge of SQL would be useful.
From: jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Does anybody have a REALLY loud noise? Date: 25 Aug 1995 19:48:42 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <41l9eq$ij8@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I just installed NS on an HP712/80. It's great, except that I can barely hear my system beep. I'm hoping that something that is recorded REALLY loud (something like a system beep - or cricket, or frog) might help. Thanks - Jon --- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home) -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: robertn@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail.app (in NS 3.2) does not load, .lock file keeps reappearing Date: 25 Aug 1995 11:47:33 -0700 Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Sender: robertn@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com Message-ID: <h27n414y7u.fsf@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <MJANTTI.95Aug25123655@medusa.abo.fi> In-reply-to: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi's message of 25 Aug 1995 09:36:55 GMT >When I try to run Mail.app the program fails to open. There is a file >in ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/.lock. If I delete this file, it reappears >immediately. Some process seems to create it, but I don't know >which. Is there a way to make the .lock file from reappearing? >I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. >-- >Markus Jantti | Department of Economics >markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University >http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti/welcome.html | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland >358-0-718 727 (Home) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office) > | 358-21-2654 677 (Fax) try doing this... od -a ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/.lock The number is the process id of the process that's creating the lock. -- The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the poster and not his employer.
From: ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca (Ramesh Somalingam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wanted: NeXT (black, non-adb) mice Date: 25 Aug 1995 20:54:46 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <41ldam$qjv@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Does anyone out there know where I can buy new or used NeXT (black, non-adb) mice. I'm looking to buy about six of them. Thanks in advance. -- Ramesh Somalingam School of Computer Science Email: ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca McGill University Tel : (514) 398-5923 Montreal, Canada
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: dwrite for APPPATH Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:07:57 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950825160646.1874D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does anyone remember what the actual dwrite is for Workspace's apppath? is it: dwrite Workspace apppath or dwrite Workspace APPPATH or something silimar? Thanks -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 25 Aug 1995 22:03:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a Nextstation. I have a copy of FrameMaker 3.0, but I am wondering if a very easy to use Latek interface exists that I can use in combination with something like EquationBuilder. Or should I just stick to Frame? Anyone who has advice and experience in this area should feel free to reply. Thanks, Bruce Patton (bwp@engin.umich.edu)
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: need phone number to order EDU version of NSFIP. Date: 25 Aug 1995 22:18:22 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <41li7f$66n@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> can someone give me the number to order the EDU version of NeXTStep 3.3? apparently the campus bookstore has made NS3.3 a special order item now, and it'll take 3 to 4 weeks to get it. TIA -- David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu davewang@wam.umd.edu Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering NeXT4Intel3.2/Linux/Dos(W4W) http://www.wam.umd.edu/~davewang/ VLSI Design Automation Lab
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Pb with NS3.3 and MIRO BOARD Date: 25 Aug 1995 22:53:05 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <41lk8h$c31@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <41iqhq$jhq@unix.pressimage.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Marc PICORNELL (mpicorne@mail.pressimage.fr) wrote: : I ve got kernel pannic when i install miro board drivers for : Miro 20 SV : NS work well with VGA but i want to use 1024*768 Maybe you took the default setting for the memory mapping of the miro video board. This is set to a value too low when using 40 MB. Set it to something above 7000000. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: steve@xray.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 26 Aug 1995 02:57:38 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <41m2j2$bte@larry.rice.edu> References: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Bruce Wayne Patton (bwp@engin.umich.edu) wrote: : I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for : writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a : Nextstation. I have a copy of FrameMaker 3.0, but I am : wondering if a very easy to use Latek interface exists : that I can use in combination with something like : EquationBuilder. Or should I just stick to Frame? : Anyone who has advice and experience in this area : should feel free to reply. It really depends on your personal preferences and experience. I wrote my MS in physics with Frame. Once you have a nice set of defaults set up frame can be quite efficient. In particular I've been making extensive use of conditional text to put 'invisible' comments in the document and for varying reference formats. There are, of course, a number of decent interfaces for Latex that allow fairly rapid previewing, etc ... But once you've gotten good at the keyboard shortcuts in Frame it's pretty good too. If you go with Latex there are several good PD programs that provide a nice GUI for NeXTStep... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ludtke | Physics Dept., Rice Univ. steve@ion.rice.edu | stevel@alumni.caltech.edu | * Those who do ARE * 72335,1537 @ compuserve | The converse also holds
From: mbecker@neptune.cs.uml.edu (Mark Becker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help Subject: Re: HELP: Problem with installing gcc-2.7.0 on a NeXT Date: 26 Aug 1995 03:42:19 GMT Organization: UMass-Lowell Computer Science Message-ID: <41m56r$jn7@ulowell.uml.edu> References: <41ie00$7ht@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> Hello * I had (nearly) the same problems chou@cs.ucla.edu described in his message. a) configure didn't set up the "target=" line in the Makefile. Come to think of it, configure reported it was setting things to do a cross-compiler. b) The instructions for making the stage1 and stage2 compilers differ slightly: make CC="stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/" CFLAGS="-g -O" make CC="stage2/xgcc -Bstage2/" CFLAGS="-g -O2" The two levels of optimization are different. I removed the "2" from the stage2 step and the comparision step completed normally. This was on an '030 cube running NextStep 2.1 The only other problem I've seen is that I have to specify -nostdinc++ and -I/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib (I'm not at that machine at the moment; the "gcc-lib" is from memory. The upshot was that I had to disable the default scan of a C++ header file and then explicitly include it) in order to do a c++ compile. The above has already been reported to the bug list. Regards, Mark
From: guest@whatever () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIPPING UP A NEXT MACHINE Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 09:20:56 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <41mec2$309@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Hi, I just recently bought NextStep and I would like to know as to how to slip it up. Basically, what's the best program to use to slip it up. I'm using v3.3 btw. Also, we use rolm phones at school so it'll have to be compatible with it. Thanx. Please reply to: jwong@vt.edu
From: root@charisma.ptsem.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Errors when installing DeveloperLibs.pkg on 3.2 (m68k) Date: 26 Aug 1995 07:34:57 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <41mir1$n9o@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Keywords: errors, help, unknown No matter how many times I try to install DeveloperLibs.pkg, I get the same message in the Installer log: ____________________________________________________________ Generating new bill of materials for this package (this can take a while)... OK. Running installation program ... **** There were errors while installing DeveloperLibs.pkg. .. errors. ____________________________________________________________ which, as you can see, is very helpful in debugging/figuring things out. Anyone have a clue what this is all about? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: root@charisma.ptsem.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: need phone number to order EDU version of NSFIP. Date: 26 Aug 1995 07:45:41 GMT Organization: Princeton University Distribution: world Message-ID: <41mjf5$nfn@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <41li7f$66n@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <41li7f$66n@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) writes: > can someone give me the number to order the EDU version > of NeXTStep 3.3? apparently the campus bookstore has made > NS3.3 a special order item now, and it'll take 3 to 4 > weeks to get it. http://www.next.com/AboutNeXT/SalesOffice.html says: For more information call 1-800-TRY-NeXT or 1-415-599-5239 I'm not sure how to dial a lowercase 'e' rather than an uppercase one... check with your operator (smilie implied) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting screen depth to 24bit?? Date: 26 Aug 1995 13:41:29 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <41n8a9$22he@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - Am running into an odd problem on the NEXT workstation. When I save a file as a .tiff (such as in IconBuilder) it works perfectly fine on my system, but no other machine in the world seems to be able to read it. I've tried xv and a number of DOS programs and translators, and they all think the file is garbage. All I can figure is that the 12-bit depth is confusing them. I tried using the dwrite -g setScreenDepth24 or some suche (a while back) but after rebooting everything is still 12 bits deep. Any one else having probs with tiff portability? Know a workaround? Thanks in advance for the info. Rich
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: OpenStep day keynote and WebObjects video Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:43:00 GMT Organization: Paul Heffernan Message-ID: <809451780snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> Following my reply to a posting in comp.sys.next.advocacy requesting getting a copy of video of the OpenStep day keynote, I have had several requests for copies. Whilst I record those copies, if there are any of you that would like a copy and did not see the advocacy posting, you can email at phef@cedar.demon.co.uk to request a copy. The recorder was placed on the ground in the centre aisle for stability of image with the result that the sound and image are okay but a few heads obscure the bottom left corner of the big screen! The recording covers Steve Jobs keynote and Avie Tevanian's follow-up on WebObjects. I can only despatch a tape following receipt of a cheque or sterling bankers draft to cover cost of reproduction, packaging and postage - email me for details. The tape is provided for personal use only - and this offer is in no way connected to my employer. Paul Heffernan.
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PCNFSD-Help!!! Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 12:20:23 -0400 Organization: LakeHaven Distribution: world Message-ID: <9508261220.AA23205@mac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My boot IDE drive failed, finally, on my NeXT PC and it was replaced with a SCSI drive (so that there are no IDE drives left) in record time thank's to a good and capable friend. Now everything is exactly as it was except for one thing. The NeXT PC serves as an NFS server to both a PC and a Mac. To do this one of the things I used to run was "PCNFSD" which is called rpc.nfsd in NEXTSTEP. Serveral people helped me out with this last time over the net and sent me versions and instructions which made everything work. I've lost all of these!! So help... I need to know where I start rpc.nfsd (i.e. which file I have to edit to get it going) and what file(s) I have to edit in order to export NeXT volumes and a printer. It appears that pcnfsd is expecting /usr/spool/lp as the printer spool directory but I must have been using something else. In any case could some e-mail me specific files that I have to change in order to export say the volume "cat" and the printer "dog" (i.e. the files which pertain to pcnfsd). Thank's a lot. I will be away from a NeXT for a few days so please don't use NeXT mail, unfortunately. Philip McDunnough LakeHaven,{Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: need phone number to order EDU version of NSFIP. Date: 26 Aug 1995 17:53:40 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <41nn34$s0j@redstone.interpath.net> References: <41li7f$66n@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> David T. Wang (veakblad@glue.umd.edu) wrote: : can someone give me the number to order the EDU version of NeXTStep 3.3? : apparently the campus bookstore has made NS3.3 a special order item now, : and it'll take 3 to 4 weeks to get it. David, It SHOULDN'T take any campus computer store in the country that long to get NeXTSTEP for any platform unless NACSCORP is out of stock on it as they are located in Florida and it should only be five days or less by ground UPS anywhere in the US...What might take a while is getting a PO to NACSCORP for them to send the product... Check on http://www.next.com for the name of the ONE commercial .edu reseller in the US (I believe that it is Object Technologies or something like that). They should be able to provide it to you in fairly short order. Dave
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does anybody have a REALLY loud noise? Date: 26 Aug 1995 18:14:22 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (http://www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <41no9u$rlj@emerald.oz.net> References: <41l9eq$ij8@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <41l9eq$ij8@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: > I just installed NS on an HP712/80. It's great, except > that I can barely hear my system beep. I'm hoping that > something that is recorded REALLY loud (something > like a system beep - or cricket, or frog) might help. > I have no personal experience with this problem, but someone posted that the problem is due to the physical orientation of the internal HP speaker. Using an external speaker fixed the problem. And I believe there was even a comment about remounting the internal speaker so that it's output wasn't so obstructed. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 26 Aug 1995 18:38:39 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <41npnf$9hd@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I wrote a thesis with latex on a 286PC and then moved to a nextstation. I am convinced that late is a very good tool to write a thesis, not so much in the beginning when you are just compossing, but towards the end when you need to put it all together, get tables of contents, index,... You can count on several months to learn, though it is best to get a latex file from someone else and then just srart from it. a nextstation is one of the best environments to do that; edit is easy to use, and tex-ing can be done as a service from edit. your knowledge of latex will not go obsolete before several 10's years, just in case you plan to write more. also, it is free :-) btw, when you get to know it, latex is quite a joy! Good luck with your choice, --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement Operations et Systemes de Decision | | Faculte des Sciences de l'Administration | | Universite Laval | | Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | | Antoine.Gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+ | [418] 656 7066 | +-------------------------------------------------------+ bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) wrote: > I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for > writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a > Nextstation. I have a copy of FrameMaker 3.0, but I am > wondering if a very easy to use Latek interface exists > that I can use in combination with something like > EquationBuilder. Or should I just stick to Frame? > Anyone who has advice and experience in this area > should feel free to reply. > Thanks, > Bruce Patton > (bwp@engin.umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller) Subject: Re: dwrite for APPPATH References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950825160646.1874D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:03:38 GMT Message-ID: <1995Aug26.170338.2866@proximus.north.de> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950825160646.1874D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >does anyone remember what the actual dwrite is for Workspace's apppath? Workspace ApplicationPaths Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: chou@cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Newsgroups: grads,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help Subject: Problem with installing libg++-2.7.0 on NeXT (was: HELP: Problem with installing gcc-2.7.0 on a NeXT) Date: 26 Aug 1995 21:58:09 GMT Organization: UCLA Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <41o5dh$do5@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> I finally tracked down the bug causing the problem I had when building gcc-2.7.0 on a Motorola 68040-based NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1. It is a bug in the "sed" of NeXT. Let me describe it below. The "configure" program of gcc generates a Makefile that will be used to "make" gcc. The Makefile is produced from a template file Makefile.in. "configure" fills the slots in Makefile.in by first generating a "sed" program Makefile.sed and then running "sed" on Makefile.in using that program. But Makefile.in contains quite a few occurrences of ^L (control-L). (I don't know why they are there; presumably they make a printed version of Makefile.in look better.) Makefile.sed elimiates all such occurrences. So "configure" contains the following line of code: echo "s|^L||" > Makefile.sed where ^L is a literal occurrence of control-L. Apparently the "sed" on my NeXT cannot handle such a command properly. Though the above "sed" command has the intended effects, the "sed" command after it, which is produced by the following line in "configure": echo "s|^target=.*$|target=${target}|" >> Makefile.sed is rendered ineffective. Hence the right-hand side of "target= ..." in Makefile.in is not replaced by the appropriate string, which caused all the trouble. This bug was easy to fix. First, I manually eliminated all occurrences of ^L in Makefile.in. Second, I commented out the first "echo" command above in "configure". After doing these, I was able to "make" the 3 stages of gcc successfully, and the comparision of the 2nd and 3rd stages showed no difference whatsoever. Unfortunately, after I built gcc-2.7.0 successfully, I encountered trouble again when building libg++-2.7.0. All went well until I did "make check", which failed. The transcript is included below. I'd appreciate any comments!!! - Ching Tsun [chou.135] make check cd tests; make check ... ./tFile < ./tFile.inp > tFile.out 2>&1 diff -c tFile.out ./tFile.exp No differences encountered ./tFile -b0 < ./tFile.inp > tFile-buf0.out 2>&1 diff -c tFile-buf0.out ./tFile.exp No differences encountered ./tFile -b3 < ./tFile.inp > tFile-buf3.out 2>&1 diff -c tFile-buf3.out ./tFile.exp No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tiomisc tiomisc.o ../libiostream.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./tiomisc >tiomisc.out 2>&1 diff -c tiomisc.out ./tiomisc.exp No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -nostdinc++ hounddog.cc In file included from hounddog.cc:26: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o hounddog hounddog.o ../libiostream.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./hounddog <./hounddog.inp > hounddog.out 2>&1 diff -c hounddog.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered ./hounddog -b0 <./hounddog.inp > hound-b0.out 2>&1 diff -c hound-b0.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered ./hounddog -b2 <./hounddog.inp > hound-b2.out 2>&1 diff -c hound-b2.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -nostdinc++ putbackdog.cc In file included from putbackdog.cc:28: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o putbackdog putbackdog.o ../libiostream.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./putbackdog <./hounddog.inp > putback.out 2>&1 diff -c putback.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered ./putbackdog -b0 <./hounddog.inp > putback-b0.out 2>&1 diff -c putback-b0.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered ./putbackdog -b2 <./hounddog.inp > putback-b2.out 2>&1 diff -c putback-b2.out ./hounddog.exp No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -nostdinc++ tiomanip.cc In file included from tiomanip.cc:3: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tiomanip tiomanip.o ../libiostream.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./tiomanip >tiomanip.out 2>&1 diff -c tiomanip.out ./tiomanip.exp No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -DTEST_LIBIO -o tiformat tiformat.c ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./tiformat Encountered no errors in 5006 tests. /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. -DTEST_LIBIO -DTEST_EXACTNESS -o tfformat tfformat.c ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./tfformat Encountered no errors in 3989 tests. /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -I. -I.. -I. -I./.. tstdiomisc.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tstdiomisc tstdiomisc.o ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a ./tstdiomisc >tstdiomisc.out 2>&1 diff -c tstdiomisc.out ./tstdiomisc.exp No differences encountered cd dbz; make check ... /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -c byteflip.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ byteflip.o ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a -o byteflip /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -DHAVERFCIZE -c rdbzmain.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -DDBZDEBUG -DDEFSIZE=4019 -c rdbz.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -c case.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ rdbzmain.o rdbz.o case.o ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a -o rdbz /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -c fake.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -g -I. -I.. -I./.. -DDBZ_FINISH='_IO_flush_all()' -c random.c /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ fake.o random.o ../libio.a ../../libiberty/libiberty.a -o fake ./fake -t -e 75 3300 >hist3.3 ./fake -t -e 75 10000 >hist10 : 'WARNING: creates about 2MB of debris; do "make rclean" afterward' rm -f dbase dbase[23] dbase.* dbase[23].* test ! -d xx || rmdir xx : crude check of synthetic history file ( sed 25q hist3.3 ; tail -25 hist3.3 ) >histjunk cmp histjunk ./firstlast25 rm histjunk : basic tests, exercising as many options as possible cp hist3.3 dbase mkdir xx chmod -w xx ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -M -i -S -u -U -C xx dbase 1000 2000 3000 rmdir xx sed '/> 0/d' hist3.3 >dbase.used test "`cat dbase.used | wc -l`" -eq "`sed -n '2s/ .*//p' dbase.dir`" ; cp hist3.3 dbase2 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -p 2679 -t ' ' dbase2 1000 2000 3000 cmp hist3.3 dbase cmp dbase dbase2 cmp dbase.dir dbase2.dir cmp dbase.pag dbase2.pag ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -c dbase 1000 2000 3000 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -c -i -q -M -U dbase 1000 2000 3000 : build a database and then add to it sed 1000q hist3.3 >dbase2 sed 1,1000d hist3.3 >dbase2.add ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 dbase2 1000 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -a dbase2 dbase2.add 1000 2000 cmp dbase dbase2 cmp dbase.dir dbase2.dir cmp dbase.pag dbase2.pag : build based on existing one, test extraction and readonly files ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -f dbase dbase2 1000 2000 3000 test "`cat dbase.used | wc -l`" -eq "`awk 'NR==2{print $1}' dbase2.dir`" ; test "`cat dbase.used | wc -l`" -eq "`awk 'NR==2{print $2}' dbase2.dir`" ; chmod -w dbase2.dir dbase2.pag ./rdbz -E 1000 -x dbase2 dbase >dbase.temp 1000 2000 3000 cmp dbase.used dbase.temp : try some small case perversions sed 's/\(@[^ ]*\)A/\1a/' dbase >dbase.ick ./rdbz -E 1000 -x dbase2 dbase.ick >dbase.temp 1000 2000 3000 cmp dbase.used dbase.temp sed -n 's/A\([^ ]*@\)/a\1/p' dbase >dbase.ick ./rdbz -x dbase2 dbase.ick >dbase.temp test ! -s dbase.temp ; rm -f dbase2.dir dbase2.pag : try it without tags, case-insensitive, with case perversions ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -p '0 b 1' dbase2 1000 2000 3000 tr '[A-M][n-z]' '[a-m][N-Z]' <dbase2 >dbase.ick ./rdbz -E 1000 -x dbase2 dbase.ick >dbase.temp 1000 2000 3000 cmp dbase.used dbase.temp rm -f dbase.temp dbase.ick : test various perversions of byte ordering awk -f revbytes dbase.dir >dbase2.dir ./byteflip `getmap dbase.dir` `getmap dbase2.dir` <dbase.pag >dbase2.pag cp dbase dbase2 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -c dbase2 1000 2000 3000 awk -f altbytes dbase.dir >dbase2.dir dd conv=swab <dbase.pag >dbase2.pag 31+1 records in 31+1 records out ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -c dbase2 1000 2000 3000 cp dbase2 dbase3 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -f dbase2 dbase3 1000 2000 3000 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -c dbase3 1000 2000 3000 test " `getmap dbase2.dir`" = " `getmap dbase3.dir`" ; : test massive overflow, throw in case sensitivity and tag mask cp hist10 dbase ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -p '0 0 7ffc0000' dbase 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000 10000 ./rdbz -E 1000 -0 -cq dbase 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000 10000 sed 100q dbase | egrep '[aA].* ' | tr aA Aa >dbase.ick ./rdbz -x dbase dbase.ick >dbase.temp test ! -s dbase.temp ; : success! rm -f dbase dbase[23] dbase.* dbase[23].* fake fake.o random.o rm -f rdbz rdbz.o rdbzmain.o hist3.3 hist10 byteflip byteflip.o rm -f histjunk core stamp-r? *~ test ! -d xx || rmdir xx cd stdio; make check ... cd ../libio ; make "INSTALL=/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/install.sh -c" "INSTALL_DATA=/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/install.sh -c -m 644" "INSTALL_PROGRAM=/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/install.sh -c" "prefix=/usr/local" "exec_prefix=/usr/local" "tooldir=/usr/local/m68k-next-nextstep2" "AR=ar" "AR_FLAGS=rc" "CC=/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/" "CXX=/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/" "CFLAGS=-g" "CXXFLAGS=-g -O2" "RANLIB=ran lib" "LIBCFLAGS=-g" "LIBCXXFLAGS=-g -O2 -fno-implicit-templates" "LOADLIBES=" "LDFLAGS=" "MAKEINFO=makeinfo " "PICFLAG=" iostream.list `iostream.list' is up to date. `stl.list' is up to date. cd stl; make check ... cd tests; make check ... /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I./.. -I./../stl -I../../libio -I./../../libio -nostdinc++ tcomplex.cc In file included from /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/assert.h:15, from ./../std/cassert.h:4, from tcomplex.cc:18: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tcomplex tcomplex.o -L.. -lstdc++ -lm ./tcomplex < tcomplex.inp > tcomplex.out 2>&1 diff -c ./tcomplex.exp tcomplex.out No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I./.. -I./../stl -I../../libio -I./../../libio -nostdinc++ tstring.cc In file included from /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/assert.h:15, from ./../std/cassert.h:4, from ./../cassert:5, from ./../std/bastring.h:45, from ./../std/string.h:6, from tstring.cc:18: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tstring tstring.o -L.. -lstdc++ ./tstring < tstring.inp > tstring.out 2>&1 diff -c ./tstring.exp tstring.out No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I./.. -I./../stl -I../../libio -I./../../libio -nostdinc++ tlist.cc In file included from /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/assert.h:15, from tlist.cc:5: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tlist tlist.o -L.. -lstdc++ ./tlist > tlist.out 2>&1 diff -c ./tlist.exp tlist.out No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I./.. -I./../stl -I../../libio -I./../../libio -nostdinc++ tmap.cc In file included from ./../stl/defalloc.h:21, from ./../stl/map.h:21, from tmap.cc:1: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tmap tmap.o -L.. -lstdc++ ./tmap > tmap.out 2>&1 diff -c ./tmap.exp tmap.out No differences encountered /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -I./.. -I./../stl -I../../libio -I./../../libio -nostdinc++ tvector.cc In file included from ./../stl/defalloc.h:21, from ./../stl/vector.h:25, from tvector.cc:1: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -o tvector tvector.o -L.. -lstdc++ ./tvector > tvector.out 2>&1 diff -c ./tvector.exp tvector.out No differences encountered `libgxx.list' is up to date. rm -f tlist touch tlist for f in `cat src/libgxx.list`; do echo "src/$f" >> tlist ; done echo "../librx/rx.o" >> tlist mv tlist list rm -f tlibg++.a ar rc tlibg++.a `cat list` mv tlibg++.a libg++.a ranlib libg++.a touch .stmp-genclass touch .stmp-tests cd graph; make all ... cd ADT-examples; make all ... cd benchmarks; make all ... cd PlotFile3D; make all ... cd lf; make all ... cd trie-gen; make all ... cd fib; make all ... touch .stmp-etc cd src ; make ... all Warning: TARGETPROG changed after being used Warning: TARGETPROG changed after being used cd src; make all ... Warning: TARGETPROG changed after being used Warning: TARGETPROG changed after being used cd tests; make all ... touch .stmp-gperf touch .stmp-utils cd genclass; make check ... cd no-stream; make check ... cd old-stream; make check ... cd src; make check ... cd tests; make check ... rm -f *.out /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -nostdinc++ -I. -I../../libio -I. -I./../../libio -I./../../libstdc++ -I./../src test_h.cc In file included from ./../src/std.h:24, from test_h.cc:11: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ test_h.o -o test_h -L./../ -L./../../libstdc++ -lg++ -lstdc++ -lm /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -nostdinc++ -I. -I../../libio -I. -I./../../libio -I./../../libstdc++ -I./../src tCurses.cc /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ tCurses.o -o tCurses -L./../ -L./../../libstdc++ -lg++ -lstdc++ -lcurses -ltermcap /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -nostdinc++ -I. -I../../libio -I. -I./../../libio -I./../../libstdc++ -I./../src tObstack.cc In file included from /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/assert.h:15, from tObstack.cc:8: /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: declaration of `volatile void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/include/stdlib.h:69: warning: conflicts with built-in declaration `void exit(int)' /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ tObstack.o -o tObstack -L./../ -L./../../libstdc++ -lg++ -lstdc++ ./tObstack < tObstack.inp > tObstack.out 2>&1 diff -b ./tObstack.exp tObstack.out /usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/src/libg++-2.7.0/gcc/ -c -g -O2 -nostdinc++ -I. -I../../libio -I. -I./../../libio -I./../../libstdc++ -I./../src tString.cc tString.cc:149: macro `index' used with just one arg tString.cc:152: macro `index' used with just one arg tString.cc:386: macro `index' used with just one arg *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. 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From: Edmund Ronald <eronald@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Back up and restore from DAT? Date: 26 Aug 1995 23:31:33 GMT Organization: Not much. Message-ID: <41oasl$6d5@sheckley.cnam.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks - I want to backup a NeXTStep 3.3 partition to DAT, repartition my disk, and then restore the whole state of my system (on Intel hardware) so as to move the NeXTStep stuff to a different drive with more space. I have the linux boot manager so the problem is that of figuring how to do the backup/restore operation cleanly, the boot issue will hopefully be trivial. Does anyone know how to do this ? Edmund.
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to generate Mac-readable EPS/TIFF files on a NeXT Date: 27 Aug 1995 07:31:10 GMT Organization: ex nihilo, inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <41p6vu$h3a@bud.shadow.net> References: <41krdi$2aq@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) wrote: > does somebody know how to konvert a NeXT-EPS file (generated for > example by Diagram or Draw, so that a Macintosh can read it into > Canvas 3.5. or PageMaker 5.0? It seems that Mac-Apps do not > execpt any of my PS/TIFF files generated on a NeXT. What do I > have do to? Nothing. Just open the files in Adobe Photoshop and then resave them as either TIFF or EPS in Photoshop. -- Dino Bagdadi ex nihilo, inc. dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME) Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
From: helpme95@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does Windows 95 really work? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 15:44:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <41q099$m1t@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> It's been working great for me (in test versions) since May. Because WINDOWS 95 seems to be of almost universal interest, I'm posting to a wide variety of computer users. Take the advice of someone at a lonely computer terminal who's been around the block a few times. [E-mail helpme-95@zoom.com for even more info.] >>>>>Into scifi? Take a look four paragraphs down! I'm tired. I wanted it easier. WINDOWS 95 has made it that way. No, the four horsemen didn't make an appearance when I started using WINDOWS 95, and it wasn't as important as a Beatles reunion or a Pearl Jam up-close-and-personal visit or winning a marathon (or the lottery). I haven't yet felt the aura of Bill Gates floating about my monitor. (I didn't notice a halo around his head, anyway.) WINDOWS 95 does have lots of advantages, though. And it is important that you make the best possible use of WINDOWS 95 should you decide to fork over your hard- earned bucks to get the second coming of WINDOWS. I have an informative and fun newsletter about the new stuff--and thought you might like to see it. Free, of course. I'm cheap, too! Forgive me, I mean FRUGAL! E-mail me at helpme-95@zoom.com for the newsletter, and I will be most happy to rush it back to you. From one computer user to another--we all try to do this better and faster whether it's our livelihood or our hobby. Try me! C'mon, people, lighten up. It's WINDOWS 95... Have fun!!! %#%#%%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#% AND NOW, FOR THE SCI-FI DREAM SEQUENCE (Just couldn't resist getting this thing published somewhere!) %#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#% "The truth is out there." Moldier sighed as he looked up to the stars in the dark night sky. "Yeah, sure," replied Scuzzy, "you keep sayin' that but we never go anywhere except those dark buildings where we get to use our flashlights." "Trust me." "Yeah, sure--like I trusted you with my car and you got it all banged up and then left me in the clutches of that alien? I don't trust nobody no more." Moldier begged, "Ah, come on, please let me drive just once more? I promise no more aliens for this week." Scuzzy mumbled under her breath something about red shoes and diaries and handed him the keys. At that moment, the sky above them came alive with lights flashing and weird soundss. "What the @#%?><&???", yelled Moldier as he dove to the ground, grabbing Scuzzy. It was huge and white and was disc shaped with two side rockets. It tried to strafe them with bolts of energy, but luckily missed them. The car, however, got a toasted paint job and the tires melted. Meanwhile, above in the spacecraft, a strange being with pointed ears and his friend were arguing. "Look at that--you MISSED them! I can't believe this!" The friend was having trouble. "I don't know what it is-- I know I programmed this scenario okay." "The pointy- eared fellow laughed and said, "You don't have that new program from Microsoft, do you? How many times did I tell you that it'll make your calculations easier and more accurate? But would you listen to me? Noooooooo!" Church turned around to take a swipe at Speck, but Speck was too fast for him and did a tuck-and- roll out of they way. Church turned again to his computer screen, but Speck stopped him. "Let's try this on my computer," he said. Church gave in grudgingly and Speck set up the run. Down below, Scuzzy and Moldier were zig-zagging through the field, trying to evade the alien ship. I'll get you for this, Moldier," panted Scuzzy, as she dodged another energy bolt. Moldier was too busy to reply, since he was sprinting faster than an Olympic- class runner. Seconds later, after a particularly nasty surge of energy, all that lay in the field were two piles of ash and some melted rubber. "Got em!", yelled Speck. "I told you that program was easier to set up!" Church stood by and glumly replied, "Yeah, but I bet I can beat you the next system we're in. Let's go someplace we've never been before." Speck turned to Church and asked, "Boldly, sir?" "But of course", laughed Church. As the ship turned and soared away, the two friends looked out the window up at the stars in the dark night sky. %#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%# For a good time, e-mail me for my newsletter at: helpme-95@zoom.com. See ya there!! %#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: OpenStep day keynote and WebObjects video Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:31:17 GMT Organization: Paul Heffernan Message-ID: <809537477snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> References: <809451780snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> Following several replies from USA, I will clarify that the recording is in PAL format. I believe NTSC is common in USA, and conversion may be expensive. However, if enough people wanted NTSC I may get a discount for the conversion - I will find out the cost later this week and post a follow-up. I had not expected so many would like a copy, so I have not done my homework on cost of postage to USA - however I expect to be able to provide copies for 15 or at most 20 pounds in PAL format (about 23-30 dollars). If you are interested, let me know - preferably with NTSC or PAL in subject header to make it easier to calculate numbers for conversion if it is financially reasonable. Regards, Paul Heffernan.
From: rdennett@aol.com (RDennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: I need education about NeXT machines Date: 27 Aug 1995 15:21:33 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <41qgjt$bkb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Hi I am interested in conducting some experiments on a NeXT machine and I had several questions: I want to use the Next development environment, mainly. What is a minimum recommended system configuration and what would it be worth? What version of the OS should I look for? Are there any I should avoid? What is Daydream? Is it a software Mac emulator? Since this is system probably would not see tons of use, I don't want to shell out a lot of money for it. I want to know if I could purchase, say, a old mc68k motherboard left over from an upgrade, an old PC power supply, a SCSI HD, and CD-ROM I was planning to get anyway and somehow interface it to the Mac ADB keyboard and mouse, 14" RBG monitor and Global Village Teleport Gold modem that I already have. Is a project like this even worth considering? Is it even possible? My eyes light up with feverish delight considering the idea of totally grungy system with a chassis made from particle board and cabling strung everywhere... I really appreciate any response and I would prefer email to: rdennett@aol.com Thanks in advance, Rob
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to view a .gif file?? Date: 27 Aug 1995 20:41:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <41qlaa$qeu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: graphics .gif file OmniWeb returns graphics in the form a .gif file, but how can I view these on a (black) NeXT? Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to view a .gif file?? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:20:41 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950827191732.1986B-100000@charisma> References: <41qlaa$qeu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41qlaa$qeu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 27 Aug 1995, James Beauchamp wrote: > OmniWeb returns graphics in the form a .gif file, but how can I view these > on a (black) NeXT? > get ImageViewer or OmniImage (or one of the other picture viewers). ImageViewer works on several types of picture types and is very common. It can be found at ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/viewer/ImageViewer.0.9k.NIHS.b.tar.gz (size:583816) I don't really know what the difference is between that and the version 0.9.i which is also around -- does anyone else? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 28 Aug 1995 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <41rfsf$sh9@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Matthew Reichman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SPECs Date: 28 Aug 1995 07:16:36 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-d-69.usc.edu Message-ID: <41rqgk$mem@usc.edu> What are the SPECint92 and SPECfp92 for a Turbo Black Slab? I was just curious in comparing them to the specs for RDI's PowerLite series. Has anyone used PowerLite's. How are they? -- Matthew ====================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: stabl@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to view a .gif file?? Date: 28 Aug 1995 09:24:29 +0200 Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <41rqvd$ek@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <41qlaa$qeu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950827191732.1986B-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> writes: >get ImageViewer or OmniImage (or one of the other picture viewers). >ImageViewer works on several types of picture types and is very common. >It can be found at >ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/viewer/ImageViewer.0.9k.NIHS.b.tar.gz >(size:583816) Better use the symbolic name peanuts.leo.org instead of 129.187.249.15. (or look it up via http://peanuts.leo.org/). ImageViewer has problems with transparent GIFs (that are very common on the web). >I don't really know what the difference is between that and the version >0.9.i which is also around -- does anyone else? Look at the magic "NIHS" of the 0.9k. 0.9i doesn't have all four of them. Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Dept. of Computer Science stabl@leo.org University of Munich http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 Germany FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mishelle@thoughtful.com> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 22:28:25 -0600 From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun) Message-ID: <9508280428.AA22849@thoughtful.com> Subject: RE: Any amoritization programs out there? Queued: Sun Aug 27 22:26:52 1995 by Pinnacle Transfer(tm) on host localhost Hi. As promised, there is now a free loan amoritization program available. A new version of LoanCalculator.sense, a HyperSense document for calculating loan payments, has been submitted to the archives. This is an updated version of Todd Nathan's loan calculator. The new version features an improved amortization report generator with monthly payment dates and calendar year interest totals. On-line help has been added, and other minor enhancements made. LoanCalculator provides a simple interface to instantly calculate the future value, total interest paid, and monthly payment amount for any loan. It can also generate nicely formatted amortization schedules listing all payments, broken down by principal and interest amounts, with annual interest totals. The LoanCalculator can be used with the HyperSensePlayer, which is also available by ftp including a FREE single-user license. The HyperSensePlayer allows anyone to access interactive multimedia documents and applications created with HyperSense. The LoanCalculator has been uploaded to: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/HyperSense/LoanCalculator.sense.compressed The HyperSensePlayer (quad-fat) is available by anonymous ftp at: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSensePlayer.pkg.1.00B13.NIHS.b.tar HyperSense is Thoughtful Software's powerful multimedia authoring system for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep. Using HyperSense it is easy to examine and customize any HyperSense document, or to quickly create your own documents and applications. An unlicensed copy of HyperSense (which may be used in demo mode) can be found at the same ftp site. If you do not have ftp access, and would like the HyperSensePlayer and LoanCalculator on disk, they are available directly from Thoughtful Software for $10, to cover our costs. An unlicensed (demo) copy of HyperSense is available for an additional $10. We accept MasterCard/Visa and personal checks. Contact info: Mishelle Baun Thoughtful Software 616 East Locust St. Fort Collins, CO 80524 USA 970/221-4596 email: info@thoughtful.com
From: jcr@best.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Accounting s'ware for a small business Date: 28 Aug 1995 03:36:32 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <jcr.809606114@shell1.best.com> Could someone point me towards a decent accounting package for a 3-man operation? Naturally, I want one that runs on Nextstep. advTHANKSance, -John Randolph
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting screen depth to 24bit?? Date: 28 Aug 1995 14:26:34 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <41sjmq$1a3@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <41n8a9$22he@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> richard warner (warnerr@beethoven) wrote: : Am running into an odd problem on the NEXT workstation. When I save : a file as a .tiff (such as in IconBuilder) it works perfectly fine on my : system, but no other machine in the world seems to be able to read it. : I've tried xv and a number of DOS programs and translators, and they all : think the file is garbage. All I can figure is that the 12-bit depth is : confusing them. I tried using the dwrite -g setScreenDepth24 or some : suche (a while back) but after rebooting everything is still 12 bits deep. What I often do is run the TIFF file through "tifftopnm <file>.tiff | pnmtotiff > <file>.new.tiff". These are the NetPbm tools, available on the net. The output is a tiff-file as standard as possible. WIllem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Accounting s'ware for a small business Date: 28 Aug 1995 15:20:47 GMT Organization: OpenSource Inc. Message-ID: <41smsf$re9@trane.opensource.com> References: <jcr.809606114@shell1.best.com> In article <jcr.809606114@shell1.best.com> jcr@best.com (John C. Randolph) writes: > Could someone point me towards a decent accounting package for a 3-man > operation? Naturally, I want one that runs on Nextstep. > > advTHANKSance, > > -John Randolph QuantaFlow by Sumeris is pretty nice. More information is available through OpenSource. --- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN v: 303.861.4411 f: 303.861.2393 WWW: http://www.OpenSource.com/
From: deniseh@shell1.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does anybody have a REALLY loud noise? Date: 28 Aug 1995 17:45:32 GMT Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <41svbs$8ss@news1.best.com> References: <41l9eq$ij8@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman (jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu) wrote: : I just installed NS on an HP712/80. It's great, except : that I can barely hear my system beep. I'm hoping that : something that is recorded REALLY loud (something : like a system beep - or cricket, or frog) might help. How about the breaking glass sound? Always startles the heck out of me! Denise
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP tiff files not portable?? Date: 28 Aug 1995 20:13:27 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <41t817$3jqc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - I've been running into an odd problem where the .tiff files I create in IconBuilder are only useable on my NEXT machine. If I take them to any other environment (like turning them in to my professor) they are unreadable. Have tried about a dozen different readers - from xv to corel photo-paint. Have tried numerous DOS applications and none of them can decrypt the file. Think it's related to the 12-bit depth of my screen. Anyone know a way to make these tiffs portable. Tried a dwrite to set a variable to 24bitRGB and that didn't work. The variable didn't show up using DefaultsMngr, so maybe I didn't do it right. ?? Thanks in advance for the info. Rich
From: smbakh@milind (Milind Bakhle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to do "open filename" from remote host Date: 28 Aug 1995 20:56:44 GMT Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Message-ID: <41taic$48a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> Is there a way to issue an open command from a remote host? When I issue a command "open .login" from a terminal window on my NeXT (hostname=milind), Edit opens up the .login file. Now, if I rlogin to a remote host, and issue a "rsh milind open .login", all I get is an error in the console saying "DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host local host". What am I missing here? Is it possible to issue a "rsh hostname open filename" from a remote host to which I have rlogin'ed from the console? If so, what all do I need to check for? Appreciate any answers/pointers. Milind A. Bakhle mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lighthouse Design looking for mothers? Date: 28 Aug 1995 21:06:54 GMT Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <41tb5e$1ldm@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Ok, I just happened to be browsing through the latest Lighthouse Design CD (received it early August, CD_README.rtfd says May 1995). In the Diagram directory, there's a ... subdirectory masked by a .hidden file (set Unix Expert in Preferences.app to see it in the File Viewer). And in this directory, there's another subdirectory, Are You My Mother?/ with a bunch of tiff files which turn out to be baby pictures. Who are these people? Are they Lighthouse Design staff? :) Some of the pictures are actually pretty cute :) The full path ends up to be /LIGHTHOUSE/Diagram_2.5/.../Are You My Mother?/ Just an interesting tidbit I thought I'd share with all of you :) Eugene -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 28 Aug 1995 09:40:14 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <41srhe$cd2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <41npnf$9hd@athena.ulaval.ca> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) wrote: > I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for > writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a > Nextstation. I have a copy of FrameMaker 3.0, but I am > wondering if a very easy to use Latek interface exists > that I can use in combination with something like > EquationBuilder. Or should I just stick to Frame? > Anyone who has advice and experience in this area > should feel free to reply. I think latex on a next is a great tool. I use latex on several systems, like sparcs, and nextstep is the best. Then you might get some excellent drawing tools for pictures. The best simple tool is Diagram.app. There is an edu version available of the lighthouse tools. I recommend that. -nick
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to do "open filename" from remote host Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 19:46:13 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950828194235.6342A-100000@charisma> References: <41taic$48a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41taic$48a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> > Is there a way to issue an open command from a remote host? > When I issue a command "open .login" from a terminal window on my > NeXT (hostname=milind), Edit opens up the .login file. Now, if I > rlogin to a remote host, and issue a "rsh milind open .login", all > I get is an error in the console saying "DPS client library error: > Could not form connection, host local host". > you need to set Public window server on: dwrite System PublicWindowServer YES however, this is a security hole the size of which is considered to be not small, and yet NeXT refuses to fix it with (supposedly) the 3 lines of code others say it would require. At any rate, if you do turn it on (don't tell anyone) and you can use this: open -a Edit -o NameOfFile -NXHost milind which you might want to alias (assuming t/csh) as: alias oemilind 'open -a Edit -o \!* -NXHost milind' good luck TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Date: 29 Aug 1995 05:45:49 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> With all the ill formatted text as of late in the postings in the csn groups I have some suggestions for any newsreader authors that care to read them. 1) A more intelligent quoting scheme. Nesting is for programmers, regular folk reading news might prefer and appreciate a more liniar quoting scheme (I know I would :). So instead of having something like this: C <C@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > B <B@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > A <A@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > > Here is [A's] the original poster's comments. > > Here is [B's] my first response to the original message. > Here is [C's] my response to the first response. Here is [D_current_poster] my second response to the first respone...etc... It might be better to have something like this: > > A <A@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > > Here is the original poster's comments. > B <B@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > Here is my first response to the original message. C <C@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Here is my response to the first response. D <D_Current_Author_of_this_post@cnj.digex.net now writes: Here is my second response to the first respone...etc... I believe quoting in this liniar mannar would reduce the number of misquotes and misunderstandings (flames et. al.). You could even get rid of the little '>' symbols since it is clear where each section of text came from and no longer need the '>'s to demonstrate where you are in the nest. 2) To have an option that will auto-matically re-wrap text to 75 columns or so, much like the TickleServices script that many of us use evertime before we post a message. Except it would be done automatically. -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: dwrite for APPPATH Message-ID: <DDxw75.2tp@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: uubasil@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Organization: Warty Wolfs References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950825160646.1874D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 22:37:53 GMT "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > does anyone remember what the actual dwrite is for Workspace's apppath? > is it: > dwrite Workspace apppath > or > dwrite Workspace APPPATH > or something silimar? dwrite Workspace ApplicationPaths (this --and other obscure defaults-- is well-hidden-documented in /NextLibrary/Documentation/Concepts/Pre3.0_Concepts/10_Support.rtfd. Go figure.) --- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT (black, non-adb) mice Date: 29 Aug 95 15:16:30 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.809709390@coricopat> References: <41ldam$qjv@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca (Ramesh Somalingam) writes: >Does anyone out there know where I can buy new or used NeXT (black, non-adb) >mice. I'm looking to buy about six of them. Thanks in advance. Logitech Mice can be used with a little reconfiguration. Info on the issue can be found on http://www.next.com/ (search for Mouse or Logitech). Just thought I'd mention this since black Mice are a little hard to get. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany # P+++>+++++ (sic) e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 29 Aug 95 15:20:01 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.809709601@coricopat> References: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: >I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for >writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a >Nextstation. My combo is LaTeX (free), Diagram (25$ educational, GREAT software), and Mathematica (was bundled with my machine). LaTeX can be enhanced by running InstantTeX (free). I love it. Now if only Edit understood TeX section commands... Best wishes, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany # P+++>+++++ (sic) e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: cortesr@alleg.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing a directory listing Date: 29 Aug 1995 15:46:26 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <41vcoi$nf4@mustang.alleg.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821154202.22098E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <41c0ob$c3q@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> suckow@ bln.sel.alcatel.de (Ralf Suckow) wrote: :-> You could also define a service in Terminal.app (Info/terminal Services ..) with the following parameters: :-> Command: ls -l %s | lpr :-> Accept: Files :-> Use selection: On Cmd Line :-> Execution: Run Service in the Background, Discard Output, Default Shell. :-> Unfortunately, I don't have a printer on my machine to test what is printed, but the print job appears in PrintManager.app. :-> Ralf Suckow |---------------------------------- :-> suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de | All opinions are mine, just mine. How about using the unix script command. Type script at the terminal prompt. Then do a ls -alg. Once that is finished doing its directory listing, then just type control-d and then lpr typescript and voila!! Ricardo -- Ricardo Cortes Allegheny College cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK) http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: Greg Howard <gregory@interport.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:57:09 -0400 Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to uncode NeXTmail sent to me. I am on a unix shell account. I have extracted the file and saved it to a file. What do I need to do to it to be able to read it? Thanks, Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ebarker@world.std.com (Ed Barker) Subject: Use of memory and monitors from black harware Message-ID: <DE37AD.xs@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 19:25:25 GMT I have been away from the Next community for a while. I was wondering if it is possible to use the memory from a color station in other hardware, such as newer PC's, Sparcstations, etc. Also, what sort of salvation is there for the 17 inch megapixel displays? Thanks for any help.
From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP tiff files not portable?? Date: 29 Aug 1995 19:38:15 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <41vqb7$bl@sun.sirius.com> References: <41t817$3jqc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Most other platforms don't support the alpha channel, and I suspect many don't support compression. Be sure your TIFF doesn't use alpha (transparency), and use tiffutil to see whether it's compressed. ---- Nik Gervae <ngervae@sirius.com> (ASCII, MIME, or NeXT mail) Technical Writer sometime NextStep Programmer San Francisco
From: brians@fcc.eng.sunysb.edu (Brian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:34:58 -0400 Organization: SUNY/SB Nerurobiology Message-ID: <brians-2908951634580001@gfish.neurobio.sunysb.edu> References: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> In article <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net>, jkheit@cnj.digex.net wrote: > With all the ill formatted text as of late in the postings in the > csn groups I have some suggestions for any newsreader authors that > care to read them. > [large example text removed] > I believe quoting in this liniar mannar would reduce the number of > misquotes and misunderstandings (flames et. al.). You could even > get rid of the little '>' symbols since it is clear where each > section of text came from and no longer need the '>'s to demonstrate > where you are in the nest. The problem with all this is this: 1) Nesting is a standard. Programmer's created this net, and programmers still keep it running. 2) Point by point rebuttals. If I want to interject in the middle of your post, there is only one way to do it: nesting. Your idea will work fine for short posts (a few lines each, with no ground-breaking ideas that will incite flames, masssive rebuttals, etc.), but for large traffic it just won't work. Sorry. -- Macintosh: The features of Windows95 since 1984. 4 22 [Fnord] 4 4 2 2 Why 42? Just Cuz 44444 2 4 2222 Do, or do not. There is no try
From: ptok@cave.usc.edu (Phillip Tokumaru) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing a directory listing Date: 30 Aug 1995 05:05:05 GMT Organization: USC Sender: tokumaru@comserv-b-09.usc.edu Message-ID: <ptok-2908952204380001@comserv-b-09.usc.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950821154202.22098E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <41c0ob$c3q@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <41vcoi$nf4@mustang.alleg.edu> > :-> Command: ls -l %s | lpr > How about using the unix script command. > > Type script at the terminal prompt. Then do a ls -alg. Once that is finished doing its > directory listing, then just type control-d and then lpr typescript and I thought you had to wrap some postscript around raw text before sending it to lpr, e.g., using ls -alg | enscript -T 2 -G -fCourier7 -zillions -of -options -- Phillip Tokumaru ptok@cave.usc.edu Research Associate/Engineer Department of Aerospace Engineering University of Southern California
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: 30 Aug 1995 07:20:18 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4213fi$1ts@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greg Howard (gregory@interport.net) wrote: : I am trying to uncode NeXTmail sent to me. I am on : a unix shell account. I have extracted the file and : saved it to a file. What do I need to do to it to : be able to read it? Do a uudecode on the saved mail. This will result in a file named .tar-something-.attach, a regular tar.Z-file. Unpack this with gnutar -xvzf .tar*attach You'll get a file called index.rtf. You can try then to view this with more/less. On a NeXT you'll have a tool called rtf-ascii to convert, but even without it it will be somehow readable. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:07:40 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Greg Howard wrote: > From: Greg Howard <gregory@interport.net> > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? > > I am trying to uncode NeXTmail sent to me. I am on > a unix shell account. I have extracted the file and > saved it to a file. What do I need to do to it to > be able to read it? Thanks Greg! You have given me another chance to spew venom about the fact that there _is_no_easy_way_ to read NeXTMail from a Unix shell. For those of you who don't care about my tangent, the answer to Greg's question is: % uudecode file_saved_with_contents_of_begin_and_end_line that will give you a file called something like: .tar.somereallylongextention.attach then you simply % zcat .tar.somereallylongextention.attach | gnutar xvf - very often this actually works! Other times it failed when I tried it for unknown reasons. [ venom mode on ] It would not take very long for some bright person to write a little (PD ;-) binary which would enable a person to decode and read NeXTMail at the command line. Something like the 3.3Mail app which can read and send both MIME and NeXTMail would make it a utility far superior to anything which exists now. If it could use the new tier's in Mailboxes (rather than having to keep pine and NeXTMail boxes or jerry-rig them together) that would be fantastic. I really don't understand the oversight of this when it has been a constant wish expressed on these newsgroups for at least the 4 years I've been around. *sigh* [ venom mode off with a sense of futility in the air ] as always TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: steve@xray.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP tiff files not portable?? Date: 30 Aug 1995 14:03:02 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <421r2m$ag7@larry.rice.edu> References: <41t817$3jqc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> richard warner (warnerr@beethoven) wrote: : Hi - : I've been running into an odd problem where the .tiff files : I create in IconBuilder are only useable on my NEXT machine. If I : take them to any other environment (like turning them in to my : professor) they are unreadable. Have tried about a dozen different : readers - from xv to corel photo-paint. Have tried numerous DOS : applications and none of them can decrypt the file. Think it's : related to the 12-bit depth of my screen. Anyone know a way to make : these tiffs portable. Tried a dwrite to set a variable to 24bitRGB and : that didn't work. The variable didn't show up using DefaultsMngr, so : maybe I didn't do it right. ?? Thanks in advance for the info. It is probably either a problem with compression or possibly # of bits. Both are easy to change. In iconbuilder select 'New Layout'. That will allow you to choose the number of planes. In particular many other machines may not know how to deal with an alpha channel. To change the compression (many other platforms will not recognize 1 or more compression types, uncompressed is the most reliable) use 'tiffutil'. Full docs are in the man pages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ludtke | Physics Dept., Rice Univ. steve@ion.rice.edu | stevel@alumni.caltech.edu | * Those who do ARE * 72335,1537 @ compuserve | The converse also holds
From: huhr@uni-paderborn.de (Holger Uhr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best combination for technical thesis on Next Date: 30 Aug 1995 10:13:18 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <421dju$lgl@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <41lhbs$co4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <neuss.809709601@coricopat> Christian Neuss (neuss@igd.fhg.de) wrote: > bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: > >I am seeking input as to the best combination of tools for > >writing a technical thesis ( lots of equations) on a > >Nextstation. > My combo is LaTeX (free), Diagram (25$ educational, GREAT software), > and Mathematica (was bundled with my machine). LaTeX can be enhanced > by running InstantTeX (free). > I love it. Now if only Edit understood TeX section commands... Yes, exactly my combo, too. If you are new to LaTeX, make sure to use the new standard LaTeX2e instead of LaTeX209, which is no longer supported by most packages. The TeX/LaTeX-Package you get from NeXT is still 209, but once you have installed it, there's no problem installing the 2e macros, which you can get from one of the CTAN ftp sites. BTW, with lots of equations in your thesis, you might want to try the AMS-LaTeX package (also at CTAN), which is very useful for aligning equations and stuff like that. Holger -- | Holger Uhr *** Pohlweg 60 *** 33098 Paderborn *** Germany | | E-Mail: huhr@uni-paderborn.de Phone: 05251-640612 | |How to become immortal: Read this signature tomorrow and follow its advice.|
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 'cut' for NS (m68k) or 'gcut' for same Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:47:14 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830094325.3053K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello all. I am looking for a binary called 'cut' precompiled (wouldn't that be nice) for NS (m68k). I've posted a few questions on comp.unix.questions and the answers come back "Check the man page for 'cut'" however, 'which cut' comes back empty on my system. If that is not possible, can someone tell me where to get 'gcut' (which I assume is similar, but somehow improved)? I'd archie if I could, but I can't, so I'm hoping someone out there might have this laying around or know where I can find it. Many thanks! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: writing man pages Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:54:21 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830095206.3148A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can anyone suggest reading material for someone who wants to write their first manpage (like how to do underlining, etc)? Is there a basic manpage around which one can start from? Thanks TjL
From: cedman@phoenix.princeton.edu (Carl F. Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: 30 Aug 1995 15:04:40 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <421um8$5ni@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > Thanks Greg! You have given me another chance to spew venom about the > fact that there _is_no_easy_way_ to read NeXTMail from a Unix shell. Actually, the easiest and best way to code support for Mail.app mailboxes would be with a c-client driver. C-client offers a standardized interface to mailboxes in over a dozen different formats. A number of Mail User Agents like e.g. pine use it for all mailbox access. If someone wrote such a driver, all these programs would just automatically work, as would new mail apps as they appear. If somebody wants to work on this, check the source/documentation on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Carl Edman
From: cedman@phoenix.princeton.edu (Carl F. Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 'cut' for NS (m68k) or 'gcut' for same Date: 30 Aug 1995 15:06:11 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <421up3$5og@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830094325.3053K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830094325.3053K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > If that is not possible, can someone tell me where to get 'gcut' (which I > assume is similar, but somehow improved)? Grab the fileutils for ftp.gnu.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Ronald Pomeroy <rpomeroy@tpoint.net> Subject: Looking for Alex D. Nghiem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <DE3uCA.8u7.0.-s@tpoint.net> Sender: news@tpoint.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: At Home Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 03:43:22 GMT Sorry to waste the electrons folks... Alex, if you're still programming, drop me e-mail at rpomeroy@tpoint.net. (Now, back to your regularly scheduled program) Ronald Pomeroy rpomeroy@tpoint.net Fritzm@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Ronald Pomeroy <rpomeroy@tpoint.net> Subject: Re: Lighthouse Design looking for mothers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <DE3uK2.8y2.0.-s@tpoint.net> Sender: news@tpoint.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: At Home References: <41tb5e$1ldm@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 03:48:01 GMT eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: >Ok, I just happened to be browsing through the latest >Lighthouse Design CD (received it early August, >CD_README.rtfd says May 1995). > >In the Diagram directory, there's a ... subdirectory >masked by a .hidden file (set Unix Expert in Preferences.app >to see it in the File Viewer). And in this directory, there's >another subdirectory, Are You My Mother?/ with a bunch of >tiff files which turn out to be baby pictures. >Who are these people? Are they Lighthouse Design staff? >:) Some of the pictures are actually pretty cute :) > >The full path ends up to be >/LIGHTHOUSE/Diagram_2.5/.../Are You My Mother?/ > >Just an interesting tidbit I thought I'd share with all >of you :) I noticed this too. I think it's a great idea! Fill up that extra space with something civic. Way to go Lighthouse. RP
From: d.pasca@agora.stm.it (Davide Pasca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Should I switch to NEXTSTEP ?? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:41:01 GMT Message-ID: <809800916.5123@volrm53.vol.it> Hi, I'm a programmer involved with 3D graphics and I develop _portable_ products for the MS-DOS platform. Currently I run under OS/2. I use the good TCPIP software available with this system and I program with Watcom C/C++ 10.0 under Windows emulation. Unfortunately the development environment is not the top (definitely not like CodeWarrior or the Think C for the Mac) and the system often hangs !! It is very frustrating see how this system can hang forever. Now, I know that the famous ID Software uses NEXTSTEP to develop their MS-DOS programs.. so I wanted to know more info about this OS. I'll call 1-800-TRY-NExT when I'll move to the USA (soon). But for the moment I cannot call this number and I also wanted some information from somebody that can understand my situation. The point is: ..does it take much time and money to move on the NS ? Is enought solid even emulating Windows and MS-DOS ?? How is the real performance of this emulators (fast, slow, compatible, non compatible ) ? Assuming that a P90 (my next machine i think) is enought, how many RAM should I buy ? Am I going to find a fast and syntax hilited programmer's editor ? Is there some Integrated Development Environment (IDE) or am I supposed to turn into a makefile nut ? What should I do to backup an NS file formatted HD on a CD-ROM ? ..and.. where are the FAQs 8) ? Few years ago I was on the Amiga, and sometimes, in some case, I really miss the past !! ciaox //============================================================ // Davide Pasca: d.pasca@agora.stm.it // HomePage: http://www.agora.stm.it/htbin/wwx?fi^D.Pasca
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: OpenStep day keynote and WebObjects video Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:59:47 GMT Organization: Cedar Systems Message-ID: <809809187snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> References: <809451780snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> I now have prices for the PAL and NTSC copies of the video of the OpenStep day keynote by Steve Jobs and the follow-up by Avie Tevanian on the Web Objects Framework. The inclusive cost of the PAL version is fifteen pounds sterling, and the NTSC version is twenty four pounds sterling for anywhere in Europe or USA/Canada. Cheques (checks), euro-cheques, sterling bankers draft are acceptable - preferably in sterling, otherwise use current bank exchange rates and add four percent to allow for bank charges when I convert to sterling. I can accept 24 dollars for PAL format and 39 dollars for NTSC format from USA. Please send your full mailing address, whether you require NTSC or PAL format, and if possible an email address (in case I need to contact you regarding your order) and payment to: Paul Heffernan 22 Cedar Court Road Cheltenham Glos GL53 7RB UK Delivery should be within 21 days of receipt. As I mentioned in earlier posting, this was a personal recording and is for personal use. The quality of recording is not professional by any means, but is good enough to see what was shown on the screens and what was said. As I don't want to be copying tapes for the rest of my life, I will respond to orders received by 13th September - any received later will be returned. Regards, Paul Heffernan.
From: bob@lancelot.cif.rochester.edu (Robert L. Masterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,ne.jobs,seattle.jobs.offered,conn.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.offered Subject: NEXTSTEP and Object-Oriented Programming Positions at SS&S, Inc. Date: 30 Aug 1995 18:48:21 GMT Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc. Sender: human_resources@sss.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <422bpl$mcb@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Keywords: jobs, employment, NEXTSTEP, EOF, Unix, object-oriented, career Software Services and Solutions, Inc., an award-winning information technology consulting and software product development firm, has employment openings for experienced NEXTSTEP programmers. Software Services and Solutions, Inc., is headquartered in southern central Connecticut, with regional presences nationwide. We seek extremely talented programmers to expand our staff in Massachusetts, Connecticut, the New York metropolitan area, and the greater Seattle, Washington, area. Software Services and Solutions, Inc., has been providing services and products for NEXTSTEP for five years. We manufacture the SS&S CASE Tools line, including DRCS and CodeReviewer, and the SS&S ObjectWare line for NEXTSTEP developers. We received the 1994 Object Honors Award for our consulting services. Software Services and Solutions, Inc., offers a generous benefits package and extremely competitive salaries to qualified candidates. If you are undervalued by your current employer, consider moving your career onto the fast track at Software Services and Solutions, Inc.. The successful candidate will have the following skills: Superior programming and software development skills Experience with NEXTSTEP development Ability to solve problems and work independently Ability to design and program well with the Enterprise Objects Framework and the Foundation Kit Excellent communications skills and interpersonal skills The following skills are also desirable: Knowledge of TCP/IP and Unix networking Experience with Unix internals Knowledge of i486 assembler Send your resume, salary history, a code sample which is not proprietary to any third party, and a sample of your documentation or a technical report you wrote by email to human_resources@sss.com, or mail them to the following address. No phone calls or faxes, please. Principals only - no applications will be accepted from agents. Software Services and Solutions, Inc. Attention: Human Resources 94 Murray Street Meriden, CT 06450 Software Services and Solutions, Inc. 1994 Object Honors Award Winner
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Boot Master to work w/ NSFIP3.3 Followup-To: poster Date: 30 Aug 1995 19:26:18 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <422e0q$cpm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I am looking forBootMaster. It's a program to allow you to boot from mutliple OSs on different drives. If anyone has any info, please drop me a line. Later, P.S. Please reply via email... thanks -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu NeXTSTEP the operating system of the future today. (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: OpenStep day keynote and WebObjects video Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 19:36:46 GMT Organization: Pul Heffernan Message-ID: <809811406snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> References: <809451780snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> I now have prices for the PAL and NTSC copies of the video of the OpenStep day keynote by Steve Jobs and the follow-up by Avie Tevanian on the Web Objects Framework. The inclusive cost of the PAL version is fifteen pounds sterling, and the NTSC version is twenty four pounds sterling for anywhere in Europe or USA/Canada. Cheques (checks), euro-cheques, sterling bankers draft are acceptable - preferably in sterling, otherwise use current bank exchange rates and add four percent to allow for bank charges when I convert to sterling. I can accept 24 dollars for PAL format and 39 dollars for NTSC format from USA. Please send your full mailing address, whether you require NTSC or PAL format, and if possible an email address (in case I need to contact you regarding your order) and payment to: Paul Heffernan 22 Cedar Court Road Cheltenham Gloucs. GL53 7RB UK Delivery should be within 21 days of receipt. As I mentioned in earlier posting, this was a personal recording and is for personal use. The quality of recording is not professional by any means, but is good enough to see what was shown on the screens and what was said. As I don't want to be copying tapes for the rest of my life, I will respond to orders received by 13th September - any received later will be returned. Regards, Paul Heffernan.
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep NT & WebObjects screen shots at www.next.com Date: 30 Aug 1995 18:55:35 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <422c77$o33@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> I haven't seen this mentioned and thought it might be of interest... NeXT has a screen shot of OpenStep/NT and four screen shots of NetScape on Macintosh connecting to a WebObjects server (not that there's much unique to see) available on their web site. For some reason they're almost hidden - they're accessed by going to "Press Releases" (under "Hot News, I think), scrolling to the bottom and choosing the final link - "Product Screen Shots" (or something like that). Here's an actual URL for that page: http://www.next.com/AboutNeXT/PressReleases/PressKit/Welcome.html The OpenStep/NT screen shot is probably of most interest to most people. It's the same screen shot that InfoWorld included in last week's issue; it shows Interface Builder, along with Program Manager and Visual C++. It still shows the old Windows title bars, etc., since NT doesn't have the Windows 95 gui yet. Also, I've heard that the look and feel of the NeXT stuff will change to be much more pure Windows-like. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 14335 Northeast 24th Street, Bldg B Bellevue, WA 98007 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: guest@whatever () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ppp connect with Next 3.3 for Intel Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 02:35:23 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <422sqa$7gh@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Hi, To anyone out there who may be able to assist me. I dnloaded a ppp client for NextStep and I don't have a clue as to how to set it up. For example, it's got a chat util that'll set up the connection, a script. However, how do I setup the DNS server from my provider and stuff????? And my ip address, gateway, netmask. Please help. Please send e-mail to: guyver@vt.edu. Thanx. J.W.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: curses library Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:29:24 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830202451.4980A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII whilst trying to compiling the latest greatest version of 'ncftp' I was given this message by the configure script: configure: warning: You have an older curses library, but it configure: warning: can't be used because it does not have the configure: warning: functions wnoutrefresh and doupdate, which configure: warning: NcFTP needs. alrighty then. I'm the last one who'd want an old curses library. Where can I get the latest greatest version (which I am assuming will work with 3.2 m68k) of 'curses'? gratefully TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: crb@eng.umd.edu (Christopher R. Bowman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Next Dimention board questions Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:09:16 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Message-ID: <crb-3008952209170001@128.8.23.34> On systems that have a next dimention board, can you use the greyscale monitor to? Ie could you have two functioning video displays at the same time, one driven by the nextdimention board, and one driven by the 2 bit/pixel video on the cpu board? Is the 13w3 monitor connector a standard pin out used by any other system? What are pin assignments on it. ----- Christopher R. Bowman crb@eng.umd.edu <A HREF="http://www.glue.umd.edu/~crb">My home page</A>
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Date: 31 Aug 1995 03:31:08 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <423ads$cp0@news4.digex.net> References: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> <brians-2908951634580001@gfish.neurobio.sunysb.edu> brians@fcc.eng.sunysb.edu (Brian) wrote: > The problem with all this is this: [point munched] > 2) Point by point rebuttals. If I want to interject in the middle > of your post, there is only one way to do it: nesting. Good point. Ok, how about keepint the little '>' signs but placing the '(s)he wrote:' bits in linear fashion. That way you won't have to look all the way up top to see where the quotes came from? -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: extentions and default apps? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830224503.9581A-100000@lipschitz> From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:47:32 -0600 Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where are extensions and default apps associated? -- kc
From: Jesse Hurlbut <hurlbutj@jkhbhrc.byu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: installing with Adaptec 2940w Date: 31 Aug 1995 08:21:26 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <423re6$436@jan.et.byu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I FINALLY got NS 3.3 today. Unfortunately, I can't get very far in the installation. After designating the CD-ROM and Hard Disk SCSI drivers for my Adaptec 2940W, I get about 19 lines of text, the last few of which look like this: REGISTERING: PCI 0 Adaptec 2940: Can't get configSpace: ABORTING REGISTERING: event0 REGISTERING: KmDevice0 No-SCSI controller or CD-ROM Drive found Use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d or tr%d Root device? Obviously, it can't find my scsi card or the cd-rom drive, but does anyone know how I can fix this? I'm stuck. thanks, Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
From: Chris Gomoiu <atr@netvision.net.il> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTDimension board failed to reset Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 12:48:24 EST Organization: NetVision LTD. Message-ID: <4244jf$a6g@news.netvision.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, I've just tried to install a NeXTDimension board into my system and got this message after booting: NeXTDimension board in slot 6 failed to reset Tried to change the slot but got same error; this seems like a hardware problem to me, wonder if somebody else got more experience with this board and is willing to give me some hints. The board was working in another system but we didn't use it for some time now. System here is NS 3.2 user, 16Mb, 68040/25. Is there any procedure I've missed when installing the board or I should have installed the NS with the board inside the cube? Any help will be more than welcome. Thanks in advance, Chris Gomoiu A.T.R. electronics e-mail: atr@netvision.net.il
From: JLI <jli@ingress.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing/booting NextStep 3.3 On Same Disk With DOS,NT3.51? Date: 31 Aug 1995 16:45:26 GMT Organization: JLI Message-ID: <424ov6$csc@stargate.ingress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody attepted to install NextStep 3.3 on a disk that already contains DOS on the first partition, NT 3.51 on the second? I have heard that what should happen is that the NextStep booter will be placed in the boot0 Master Boot Record leaving the NT booter alone where it is now in boot1 boot record. Then when starting the machine, at the prompt, "Type n for NEXTSTEP, d for DOS, 1-4 for partition #:" I should type "d" for DOS and I will get the regular NT boot menu. Can anybody confirm that this is the case based on their experience. I just want to be extra certain in advance about what the situation will be. Thanks for any help, -jerry
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next Dimention board questions Date: 31 Aug 1995 18:50:53 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4250ad$q8b@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <crb-3008952209170001@128.8.23.34> In article <crb-3008952209170001@128.8.23.34> crb@eng.umd.edu (Christopher R. Bowman) writes: > On systems that have a next dimention board, can you use the greyscale > monitor to? Ie could you have two functioning video displays at the same > time, one driven by the nextdimention board, and one driven by the 2 > bit/pixel video on the cpu board? Yep! It's a happy thing. You could in fact have up to 4 monitors in a cube, with 3 ND boards and the monochrome megapixel. > Is the 13w3 monitor connector a standard pin out used by any other system? > What are pin assignments on it. Don't know. It looks similar to the cable on the back of my sparc-10, but I haven't compared them closely. Best, Pete -- *************************************************************************** Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy. ***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Message-ID: <DE56sJ.31y@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: uubasil@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Organization: Warty Wolfs References: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> <brians-2908951634580001@gfish.neurobio.sunysb.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:09:54 GMT Emacs' gnus, using Supercite, does something like this: (Note, I didn't post this from gnus so this is a hand-edited approximation) "Brian" = "brians@fcc.eng.sunysb.edu" wrote: Brian> In article <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net>, "John" = "jkheit@cnj.digex.net" wrote: John> With all the ill formatted text as of late in the postings in the John> csn groups I have some suggestions for any newsreader authors that John> care to read them. John> Brian> [large example text removed] John> I believe quoting in this liniar mannar would reduce the number of John> misquotes and misunderstandings (flames et. al.). You could even John> get rid of the little '>' symbols since it is clear where each John> section of text came from and no longer need the '>'s to demonstrate John> where you are in the nest. Brian> The problem with all this is this: Brian> Brian> 1) Nesting is a standard. Programmer's created this net, and programmers Brian> still keep it running. Brian> Brian> 2) Point by point rebuttals. If I want to interject in the middle of your Brian> post, there is only one way to do it: nesting. Here's another way. [Sheesh. I *am* grumpy tonight;-] -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller) Subject: Re: writing man pages References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830095206.3148A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:41:58 GMT Message-ID: <1995Aug31.114158.5240@proximus.north.de> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830095206.3148A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >can anyone suggest reading material for someone who wants to write their >first manpage (like how to do underlining, etc)? Is there a basic >manpage around which one can start from? I would suggest to use pod2man from Larry Walls perl5 distribution. This is probably the easiest way writing your manpages. However, you need perl5 installed somewhere... ;-) (BTW: There's also pod2html, so you can automatically convert the pod files to html files as well.) Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller) Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:55:25 GMT Message-ID: <1995Aug31.115525.5438@proximus.north.de> In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net>, Greg Howard <gregory@interport.net> wrote: >I am trying to uncode NeXTmail sent to me. I am on >a unix shell account. I have extracted the file and >saved it to a file. What do I need to do to it to >be able to read it? Check out ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/denext.tar.gz Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: 31 Aug 1995 21:59:10 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <425bbe$k5q@elna.ethz.ch> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <4213fi$1ts@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: [...] > You'll get a file called index.rtf. You can try then to view this > with more/less. On a NeXT you'll have a tool called rtf-ascii > to convert, but even without it it will be somehow readable. I wrote a rtf2asc.c some time ago. It's not based on an rtf-documentation or something, it's just a quick hack. It seems to work however... If anybody wants the source to more-or-less-read rtf-files on other systems mail me and I'll send or post it (< 2k). - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) For pgp public key finger felix.pgp@nice.ethz.ch
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for NS savvy Print Shop Date: 31 Aug 1995 22:19:39 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <425chr$ino@news.eecs.umich.edu> I'm working on a project to put together a shot-run (custom) publication. Can anyone recommend any print shops for me to contact? I'd prefer responses by email <mrozek@eecs.umich.edu>. I will post a summary. We're doing the layout and editing on a NeXTstation using Framemaker. My local offset-press print shop has a Mac-based setup and is giving me a headache in terms of supporting me (they can read the Framemaker-generated postscript files and generate good film proofs, but they are complaining about the page orientation and don't want to handle compressed files). Eric
From: Gerald Wildgruber Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is SpeeDex ? Date: 1 Sep 1995 00:05:42 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <425iom$7h6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, i heard of a program called SpeeDex from IT, that seems to be some sort of personal information manager, capable to store and search full text data. Has anyone heard of this product, does it exist for white hardware and are there demo versions available on the net ? Any help appreciated Gerald.
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for NS savvy Print Shop Date: 1 Sep 1995 03:24:40 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <425udo$m8t@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <425chr$ino@news.eecs.umich.edu> In article <425chr$ino@news.eecs.umich.edu> mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) writes: > I'm working on a project to put together a shot-run (custom) publication. > Can anyone recommend any print shops for me to contact? > > I'd prefer responses by email <mrozek@eecs.umich.edu>. I will post a > summary. > > We're doing the layout and editing on a NeXTstation using Framemaker. My > local offset-press print shop has a Mac-based setup and is giving me a > headache in terms of supporting me (they can read the Framemaker-generated > postscript files and generate good film proofs, but they are complaining > about the page orientation and don't want to handle compressed files). Your best bet is to actually find out what device they are outputting to and IF you have that device PPD then install it as a printer device and print to a file. This way given that the shop has your fonts and the device they should have no problem just sending the .ps file directly to the device as postscript. If you don't have the PPD's (and someone can inform me as to if adobe's install fine on NS... I've not tried) as far as I know your only option is to get yourself the same software your print shop is using run it on a mac (why I have daydream BTW. Thanks QUIX for ND support!) and then take it in. Also our group has found that most print shops are rather clueless about support. They know how to use their software but if you have .ps files they can get lost. Don't ask me why! I just kept looking till we found a local shop that knew what they were doing and had a printer that we had a PPD for. Output was very nice, VERY NICE! And if they don't want to handle compressed files then screw em. Almost every printer we dealt with said no problem on compression. Page orientation is a different story and can be a serious headache (why it's best to be able to use the PPD's and print to files). Good luck BTW. Sincerely, Randy Rencsok
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP tiff files not portable?? Date: 1 Sep 1995 04:39:21 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <4262pp$31pv@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <41t817$3jqc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <41vqb7$bl@sun.sirius.com> ngervae@sirius.com wrote: : Most other platforms don't support the alpha channel, and I suspect many : don't support compression. Be sure your TIFF doesn't use alpha : (transparency), and use tiffutil to see whether it's compressed. : ---- : Nik Gervae <ngervae@sirius.com> (ASCII, MIME, or NeXT mail) : Technical Writer sometime NextStep Programmer : San Francisco Hi again. Just a followup. I checked in IconBuilder and there's no alpha on any of the images but they all are 12 bit. I checked with tiffutil and none of them are compressed. ??. Am downloading OmniImagefilter now and will try using it to convert them to gifs. Am surprised more people haven't had this problem. Perhaps it isn't a problem with 3rd party software, but I can't transport the postscript or tiff files created using draw or the tiff files created using IconBuilder or the tiff files created using grab. Here's what I see when I use tiffutil -verboseinfo on one of them: Directory at 0x5aa3a Image Width: 450 Image Length: 550 Resolution: 72, 72 Resolution Unit: pixels/inch Bits/Sample: 4 Compression Scheme: none Photometric Interpretation: RGB color Samples/Pixel: 3 Number of Strips: 1 Strips (Offset, ByteCount): 8, 371250 Planar Configuration: Not planar Rich
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for NS savvy Print Shop Date: 1 Sep 1995 05:00:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <42640k$l3t@digifix.digifix.com> References: <425chr$ino@news.eecs.umich.edu> <425udo$m8t@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > In article <425chr$ino@news.eecs.umich.edu> mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) > writes: > > I'm working on a project to put together a shot-run (custom) publication. > > Can anyone recommend any print shops for me to contact? > > > > I'd prefer responses by email <mrozek@eecs.umich.edu>. I will post a > > summary. > > > > We're doing the layout and editing on a NeXTstation using Framemaker. My > > local offset-press print shop has a Mac-based setup and is giving me a > > headache in terms of supporting me (they can read the Framemaker-generated > > postscript files and generate good film proofs, but they are complaining > > about the page orientation and don't want to handle compressed files). There is a list of NEXTSTEP savvy prepress and print shops on Stepwise http://www.stepwise.com/ThirdParty/Services/Service_Bureaus.html
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Date: 1 Sep 1995 05:41:27 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <4266e7$li9@news4.digex.net> References: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> <brians-2908951634580001@gfish.neurobio.sunysb.edu> <DE56sJ.31y@basil.icce.rug.nl> tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) wrote: > Emacs' gnus, using Supercite, does something like this: (Note, > I didn't post this from gnus so this is a hand-edited approximation) [example of much better method chomped] > [Sheesh. I *am* grumpy tonight;-] Grumpy or not, I think that is an excellent way to quote. Maybe use the first 8 letters of the address, i.e. the username? -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP tiff files not portable?? Message-ID: <1995Sep1.060807.27259@media.mit.edu> Sender: news@media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <41t817$3jqc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <41vqb7$bl@sun.sirius.com> <4262pp$31pv@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 06:08:07 GMT In article <4262pp$31pv@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) writes: >>ngervae@sirius.com wrote: >>: Most other platforms don't support the alpha channel, and I suspect many >>: don't support compression. Be sure your TIFF doesn't use alpha >>: (transparency), and use tiffutil to see whether it's compressed. >> caveat: although I have a DOS/Windows box, I never do any graphics work there, so the following only applies to Macs, SGIs, and other UNIX boxes. These days, all software that can read TIFFs can read compressed TIFFs, when the compression is LZW. Do not use JPEG compression in a TIFF, other platforms will get confused. All software that can read TIFFs can read TIFFs with an alpha channel, although none of them them treat it as such (although some on the SGI might) - it's just seen as another channel. The real stickler is 12 bit - I've found no software off of NS that can deal with this, although I haven't tried using the latest version of Sam Leffler's TIFF library and it's general ReadRGBA() call. In summary; compression (except JPEG) and alpha is usually fine, but the 12 bit will kill you. When I had a 12 bit color system only, I used to read it into a pain program like Appsoft Image and save it out as 24 bit. -- --> Michael B. Johnson, SMVS, Ph.D. -- wave@media.mit.edu|wave@pixar.com --> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/ --> alumni, MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> Media Arts Technologist, Pixar Animation Studios
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Suggestions for newsreaders, quotes, etc... Date: 1 Sep 1995 07:53:03 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <426e4v$li9@news4.digex.net> References: <41u9id$pag@news4.digex.net> <brians-2908951634580001@gfish.neurobio.sunysb.edu> <DE56sJ.31y@basil.icce.rug.nl> <4266e7$li9@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) wrote: > > Emacs' gnus, using Supercite, does something like this: (Note, > > I didn't post this from gnus so this is a hand-edited approximation) > [example of much better method chomped] > > [Sheesh. I *am* grumpy tonight;-] > Grumpy or not, I think that is an excellent way to quote. Maybe use the first 8 letters of the address, i.e. the username? Or perhaps if the 8 letters eatup too much space we could use just the initials... jk>>>> etc... -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Installing/booting NextStep 3.3 On Same Disk With DOS,NT3.51? Date: 1 Sep 1995 08:29:44 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <426g9o$5ap@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <424ov6$csc@stargate.ingress.com> JLI <jli@ingress.com> wrote: > Can anybody confirm that this is the case based on their experience. Yes, the boot procedure should work as you described it. But better be sure and make a backup copy... :-) > [...] leaving the NT booter alone where it is now in boot1 boot record. What do you mean by "boot1 boot record"? NT has no real boot record. It replaces your MS-DOS system files by a special "NT aware" version. When you boot DOS, this version looks for some hidden files in your DOS partition and the boots NT via the NTLDR program. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Magazine Date: 1 Sep 1995 11:51:21 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Message-ID: <426s3p$csf@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <40nijf$fo0@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> <40nc7a$jr4@sinfo.ll.iac.es> Keywords: NeXT, NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, OpenStep Journal Martin Michlmayr (tbm@ihq.com) wrote: >Rafael Munoz Carpena (rcarpena@iac.es) wrote: >> I used to receive NeXTWorld but after its disappearance I have not >> found any other magazine dealing with NeXT. >> >> There are two magazines: >> * OpenStep Journal. Contact OpenStep_Journal@NeXT.COM for more >> informations. For those who have not seen it yet, the OpenStep Journal can be found at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1001.htmld/1001.html#OpenStep= _Journal -- tbm Support the League for Programming Freedom -- http://www.lpf.org/ Read "Against User Interface Copyright" at http://www.lpf.org/Copyright/look-and-feel.html
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Driving Printer from Intel Date: 1 Sep 1995 14:26:57 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <42757h$ntp@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hmmm looking for ideas... I am the proud owner of an HP DeskJet 500. I had it hooked up to my cube for 2 years. Used 19200, HW flow control, and the free djf driver. Worked flawlessly. When I got my new Intel machine, I just set up remote printing and things still worked beautifully. Now I need to put the printer on the Intel box. However, I cannot get the two to communcate. Under Dos, Windows No Technology (NT) and NeXTSTEP, I can't even get the printer to flinch. I have (under all of the OSes) set the com ports (tried com1 and com2) to the proper baud settings, parity, etc. I verified the DIP switches on the printer, I've power cycled, and I've verified the cables (tried two differnet cables and one works on a friends machine). Both my serial ports drive my modem correctly (even with my printer cable which is a standard RS-232C cable). I called HP TechSupport and talked to someone who, IMHO, had almost no clue as to what was going on. We (re)walked through what the setup manual asks you to do. However, the setup example (working under DOS) doesn't work either. Finally, I rehooked up the printer to my cube and it still works (so the printer didn't spontaneously break). I'm at a loss as to why I can't drive the printer from my Intel box. If anybody has ideas, I would appreciate it. I have an Intel P-90 and an Intel MB with the Triton chipset. All clues sincerely appreciated! Thanks, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 For PPP info check out: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: cortesr@alleg.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: 31 Aug 1995 14:24:53 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <424gnl$ela@mustang.alleg.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Try this NeXT answer: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1017.htmld/1017.html That should answer any and all ?'s... Ricardo -- Ricardo Cortes Allegheny College cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK) http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lisp for NeXT Intel Date: 1 Sep 1995 16:01:12 GMT Organization: MSU KBS Lab Sender: punch@sol.cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) Distribution: world Message-ID: <427ao8$1db1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Anyone have a Common Lisp (not Scheme, got that) out there that they can get up a running on a NeXT Intel box? Please mail me, I don't get to read news as much as I'd like. >>>bill<<< punch@cps.msu.edu
From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which network card for NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Date: 1 Sep 1995 17:31:17 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <427g15$t4s@news.bu.edu> Hello, I am looking for a network card that will work well with 3.2. I've been reading through some of the NeXTanswer and got the impression that the 3Com 3c509 and the SMC Elite 16 may not be the best cards. Now since I'm running 3.2, I can't use the PCI cards and it will have to be an ISA ( I don't have EISA ) unless anyone knows of a VLB card that will work. Does anyone know if the Intel EtherExpress Pro (as oposed to the EtherExpress16) will work ? I am open to any suggestions. Thanks, M.R
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:29:13 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950901142516.802A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <1995Aug31.115525.5438@proximus.north.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu In-Reply-To: <1995Aug31.115525.5438@proximus.north.de> > Date: Thu, 31 AUG 1995 11:55:25 GMT > From: Gerhard Mpller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? > > Check out > ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/denext.tar.gz > slight typo there: should read: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/denext.s.tar.gz TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:47:12 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950901144220.9786A-100000@charisma> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <1995Aug31.115525.5438@proximus.north.de> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950901142516.802A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950901142516.802A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> ps -- I've downloaded the 'denext' program, and it works very well to fill some of the void. I haven't found an easy way to use it with pine (Save it to a file and then pipe the message through denext and it appears on the screen) but then again my ppp connection is working right now, so I don't really need it. NOTE: denext is only a /bin/sh script and the only part of the package which requires compiling it 'dertf' which I guess was created before 'rtf-ascii'. SO, edit 'denext' and change the DERTF line to: DERTF=/usr/bin/rtf-ascii and then 'denext' will work as it should, showing you the text of the message. Thanks to whoever mentioned this initially! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Lisp for NeXT Intel Date: 1 Sep 1995 20:03:41 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <427out$tbo@news.doit.wisc.edu> Check out ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/proglang/GCL-1.1.bs.pkg.tar, which contains the source and a compiled binary for Intel. The unfortunate side is that the file is 5.93MB. -- Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de> Message-ID: <m0soWmh-000btOC@a-gain> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 15:09:30 +0100 Subject: How to create a 2-headed NeXT dimension (was: Next Dimention board questions) Cc: crb@eng.umd.edu Christopher R. Bowman wrote: > On systems that have a next dimention board, can you use the greyscale > monitor to? Ie could you have two functioning video displays at the same > time, one driven by the nextdimention board, and one driven by the 2 > bit/pixel video on the cpu board? > Yep! Instead of the Soundbox that is connected to the ND just connect the b/w-MPD and reboot. After that you will be able to locate the 2nd screen in Preferences.app (which is located under NeXTApps) and add it to the configuration. Next, reboot a-gain and you will even be able to drag the color windows onto the mono-MPD (and back and forth - and back and forth.......) Well as with the ND you can have up to 3 Color displays (using 3 seperate ND boards) and one monochrome MPD at a time. The HPs can handle 2 displays and Suns Sparcs can also handle 3 (depending on the number of graphic-boards installed) --- Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. "I have seen (OpenStep) 4.0 and it will be!" Life spans many different colors, but ---- REAL Computing is black! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Huelf voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19 <---> fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92 stefan@a-gain.hanse.de ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to create a 2-headed NeXT dimension (was: Next Dimention board questions) Date: 1 Sep 1995 22:00:59 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <427vqr$pad@news4.digex.net> References: <m0soWmh-000btOC@a-gain> Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> wrote: > Well as with the ND you can have up to 3 Color displays (using > 3 seperate ND boards) and one monochrome MPD at a time. > The HPs can handle 2 displays and Suns Sparcs can also handle 3 > (depending on the number of graphic-boards installed) Don't forget the intel's. NeXT's #9 128 driver claims it can support upto 8 1600X1200 32bit displays!!! I havent been able to verify it...Anyone care to donate a couple of cards and monitors :) -- Thanks, Later, John monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School | NEXTSTEP Developer John Kheit )^> %^) | Opinions expressed | MIME & NeXTmail OK--3P jkheit@cnj.digex.net | represent me only... | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How can you read NeXTmail from a unix shell? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950901165950.2974A-100000@lipschitz> From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:15:52 -0600 References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950829115347.9561A-100000@interport.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... To: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830085801.3053E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: | On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Greg Howard wrote: | > | > I am trying to uncode NeXTmail sent to me. I am on | > a unix shell account. I have extracted the file and | > saved it to a file. What do I need to do to it to | > be able to read it? | | | Thanks Greg! You have given me another chance to spew venom about the | fact that there _is_no_easy_way_ to read NeXTMail from a Unix shell. I use dcnm. Pipe the Mail.app message to dcnm (DeCode NextMail). A list of attachments comes back with the ascii text of the message. The attachments and index.rtf are placed in subdirectories of ~/NeXTMail. The sub-directories of ~/NeXTMail are named Mail.1, Mail.2, etc. A check sum of the uuencode is stored in ~/NeXTMail/Mail.*/.cksum . If you pipe the message out more than once, dcnm uses the check sum to determine if an old index.rtf should be read or a new message decoded. dcnm can handle CryptorBundle messages. If dcnm appears to hang (from Pine) pgp is waiting for your pass phrase. -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson begin 700 dcnm.Z M'YV0(T*`>"$FC9L78^:@`='"C((W;@S2D0-"2)`D3)Y4H:)@3ADZ(*94:0*B MQ\`Z<^00-/AB3ITV(&+*G#D"1!6/(-J0J0$BC1D0>=[4`8$FC)TR/>FX4.`3 M!`H0`EL@]?/"21DL5)J$2<,&1`H0=-"4<:,@09LU9-)0I&H5JU:N9<^F75OU M:M:M;%ZXH-,&CH*Q:1TV?1IU:EVW>/7RA>,5K%BR9M&J!<'6[MN\>_O^=1-8 MP9@P('U0/GR7J^*^+ZI4<4&"A&<RH]N6QKQ8`0F1)%6S)@%"M(LQ:URV>1W; M,EX%9M[(*1-FS,*Y3D&`83,'C->R@QG")@']:]BQ91-D%P@F\,_*B$UGAJ,7 MN'`0W-6V#_X2!!\0=\8P9&/=^^/P"8RQW5P`EN'<&R`$00<=S:'1QEATS.'" MA`!2QY`1(+A@'PAG+,=8"W;TQ%D9>+@@!QT_[0""@6@@*`(((A1X(`A4D`C2 M&S]]EU,9<\P1QAE()<<&&V_<(>&$(*C(HHLP`O@"2BH5=-")9K00QAQCI)$& M"#R(2`:))J((H!PPH3?;:>RI4"`>:=`1'F`^E06G0X`I`$1/)8$0@P)WH,$5 M4D])55QZ>5W&VI8IE'7GEBNLL!D9"L@UF:$DI$$<I9:V$:*9EZ&9VFJM99AD M3IN2UNEZ\[VW5!UU?#G&&U_:!"IO*I(IZVZCHO`92'N%(8<*+H#&H'.CVMKK MK\$NV.!7]]7AQJM]+=?CA@Q2A,=/+3#UTU/3S<%0$!MV6`9C8XTA1QYP@'1? M?OOUYQAX9H5XK`O`EGMNNAE6ZX*]Z"K%ZJBLN@HK4O/RFZX+K)9EK+X&^UM' M67"<\>%/*R0GQQA(K;!&&>-*Z6L>/>!(L41ER-$<'6D<%;(;7.;K*[W[/GNO MNB`X"RT<TGI[7[4@7,L0"`K#-*\*#3\:YY()*NO<@VY$.*&&2L[X8HP6MH"A MAO>)^V&(!GU9(I6C(CWU7S/6B,>-.8JU8X\_!OG&D$4>"?6*4C?Y9$HK38FB GE5AJV7+78%*I@$48:42%#MI&U^V@9Z[G[G>0V<II8JBJ.:<"(R@` ` end
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates) Subject: Need Suggestion on the Intel System Message-ID: <lorgbDE96rE.78w@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 00:59:38 GMT Sender: lorgb@netcom10.netcom.com Hi, Can anyone suggest/advice for this PC needed to run NEXTSTEP? CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz (Globalyst system board) RAM: 64 MB Cache Memory: 1 MB ISA slots: 3 PCI slots: 2 BIOS: Phoenix, AT&T version 4.04, 1.01.00 SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/2940W SCSI CD-ROM Drive: NEC 4X Hard Drive: SCSI 2 Gig Segate Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Graphics Adaptor: Number Nine Imagine 128 (8M VRAM) Serial Ports: 2 UART 16450 Parallet Port: 1 Keyboard: 101 PS/2 Pointing Device: Logitech Lan Adaptor: Cogent EMaster+ PCI Sound Card: Sound Blaster 16 Monitor: NEC 6FG Also, What types of modems and SCSI-tape backups are compatible with this system? Thanks in advance for the info. nvp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates) Subject: Need Suggestion on the Intel System Message-ID: <lorgbDE99LI.5ox@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 02:00:53 GMT Sender: lorgb@netcom22.netcom.com Hi, Can anyone suggest/advice for this PC needed to run NEXTSTEP? CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz (Globalyst system board) RAM: 64 MB Cache Memory: 1 MB ISA slots: 3 PCI slots: 2 BIOS: Phoenix, AT&T version 4.04, 1.01.00 SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/2940W SCSI CD-ROM Drive: NEC 4X Hard Drive: SCSI 2 Gig Segate Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Graphics Adaptor: Number Nine Imagine 128 (8M VRAM) Serial Ports: 2 UART 16450 Parallet Port: 1 Keyboard: 101 PS/2 Pointing Device: Logitech Lan Adaptor: Cogent EMaster+ PCI Sound Card: Sound Blaster 16 Monitor: NEC 6FG Also, What types of modems and SCSI-tape backups are compatible with this system? Thanks in advance for the info. nvp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman) Subject: Re: translationprogram English <-> German Message-ID: <DE31HC.MEo@sgc.com> Sender: news@sgc.com Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC References: <41f6ns$it4@next01.biw-ag.de> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 17:20:00 GMT If you find such a product, please tell me. As far as I know, there is no such program which works for any but the most rudimentary phrases. I know people who have written PhD thesis on this subject, it is a highly non- trivial problem. Humans still transalate materials from one language to another. As far as I know, this is one of the holy grails of computing. --later, RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: root@music.gla.ac.uk Subject: Re: Errors when installing DeveloperLibs.pkg on 3.2 (m68k) Message-ID: <DE8onu.DMt@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Sender: news@udcf.gla.ac.uk (News) Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service References: <41mir1$n9o@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:28:41 GMT In article <41mir1$n9o@cnn.Princeton.EDU> writes: > No matter how many times I try to install DeveloperLibs.pkg, I get the > same message in the Installer log: > > ____________________________________________________________ > Generating new bill of materials for this package (this can take a > while)... OK. > Running installation program ... **** There were errors while > installing DeveloperLibs.pkg. > .. errors. > ____________________________________________________________ > > which, as you can see, is very helpful in debugging/figuring things out. > > Anyone have a clue what this is all about? > > Thanks > TjL Timothy, Have a look at the log view, and ensure that all files were installed correctly. (step 1) Next, (step 2) open the DeveloperLibs.pkg folder by selecting it in the workspace and pressing shift-command-o. Then look for the file inside it called ... um... something to do with post-processing script. It is executable, but if you command-drag it onto the "Edit" icon it will open in edit. It's just a unix script. Now open Terminal.app, and copy and paste lines of the script into the terminal shell. You'll soon see which ones are giving the error. (don't forget you'll probably have to be root to do this). I was doing this the other day, but I forget what all the lines are. You'll need the 2 near the beginning that set the paths for the log files, then all the others are 'cc' commands to precompile the headers. > > -- > Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k > MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell > "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." > "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." -- Stephen Brandon _____________________________________________________ Systems Administator, Department of Music, e-mail: sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 307 8018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Message-ID: <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: publication magazine nextstep Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:22:31 GMT NEXT IN LINE, #4 arrived a few days ago. It's worth subscribing too. Good articles, well researched, no fluff (except perhaps in a few of the press releases not written by nil and reprinted in abbreviated form). Some of the contents: OOE -- A New Approach to Compound Documents, by Andrew Stone (enough content here to really help a developer) Disaster Relief, by Brad Evenson (How Transport Canada uses NS to run a crisis center) User Mysteries, by Bruce Gingery (an astonishing amount of info on UIDs and GIDs) Serving the Surfers, by Christian Neuss (installing and managing www servers) Shrinking NEXTSTEP Developer, by Don Yacktman and Paul Cardon ("Any NEXTSTEP site with more than one NEXTSTEP machine networked together ... can have the full NEXTSTEP Developer installed on every machine ... even ... with ... 105 MB hard drive ..." - how to) Turbo Communications, by Sean T. Lamont (how to get the most out of Motorola serial ports) Hat Tricks, by various authors (technical tips ... many not obvious) Reviews ThreadKit (aids writing multi-threaded applications) InterfaceViewer (build diagrams of IB files) Translators Apprentice (Japanese/English) OpenWrite (word processor) (the reviews are well done) -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTlaser Printer Cartridge Date: 2 Sep 1995 13:00:58 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <42a2ka$9cu@news.duke.edu> Grumble, grumble! The toner cartridge in my NeXTlaser printer has run out, and I can't remember the exact type of cartridge that goes back in it. The User's Guide is only for NEXTSTEP and the Admin Pages for on-line documentation say to look in the NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer Owner's Guide which I've never even heard about. I take the current HP toner cartridge to Office Depot and get silly looks from the dim sales staff. Any pointers to this happy owner of orphaned hardware would be greatly appreciated. Peace and Hugs -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Re: Next Dimention board questions In-Reply-To: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com's message of 31 Aug 1995 18:50:53 GMT Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Sep2150458@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <crb-3008952209170001@128.8.23.34> <4250ad$q8b@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 19:04:58 GMT >>>>> "Pete" == Pete Clark <Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com> writes: Pete> In article <crb-3008952209170001@128.8.23.34> Pete> crb@eng.umd.edu (Christopher R. Bowman) writes: >> On systems that have a next dimention board, can you use the >> greyscale monitor to? Ie could you have two functioning video >> displays at the same time, one driven by the nextdimention >> board, and one driven by the 2 bit/pixel video on the cpu >> board? Pete> Yep! It's a happy thing. You could in fact have up to 4 Pete> monitors in a cube, with 3 ND boards and the monochrome Pete> megapixel. >> Is the 13w3 monitor connector a standard pin out used by any >> other system? What are pin assignments on it. Pete> Don't know. It looks similar to the cable on the back of my Pete> sparc-10, but I haven't compared them closely. Pete> Best, Pete The pinout is simple: 1 = RED 2 = GREEN (sync on green) 3 = BLUE 13w3 is also used by Sun, yes. Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: who sells EquationBuilder ? Date: 2 Sep 1995 19:33:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <42abiu$oet@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> What company sells EquationBuilder? I am especially interested in one that will offer the student pricing. Thanks, Bruce bwp@engin.umich.edu
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 2 Sep 1995 20:02:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: sound file sndplay SoundWorks So far I've exclusively used the Motorola (Black) hardware, so I don't have any problem with sound files -- i.e., playing, recording, editing, etc. However, I know I'll have to move to a new architecture someday, and I'd like to continue using NeXTStep. I hear that sound files are either not supported on Intel NS implementations, or that the sound file utilities don't work very well. (I keep repeating "sound file" rather than just "sound", because I know that the Music Kit works very well to synthesize sounds from certain sound boards using their DSPs, but this is not what I want.) By "sound file", I mean 16-bit, stereo, 44.1 KHz/channel sound file. Has anyone had positive experiences working with sound files on Intel NS? Has anyone had positive experiences working with sound files with NS on any other architecture (like HP), except '04 of course. Do any of the sound file utilities, like Sound Works, work anything other than the black hardware? Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem accessing internal modem from NS (but not DOS) partition Date: 2 Sep 1995 21:11:19 GMT Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Message-ID: <42ah9n$1a5@independence.ecn.uoknor.edu> I recently set up a Zeos Pentium with a large NS partition and a smaller DOS/WINDOWS partition. Everything seems to work smoothly except that I can't (usually) access the internal modem from any telecommunications program on the NS partition. I've got TipTop, but have also tried all of the demos that came on the NeXT CD-ROM. Some of these programs say that they can't initialize the modem, others say that cufb is already in use (the modem is in com b), and others don't say anything. With some, the modem at least beeps out the numbers to be dialed, but I (typically) can't get a connection. Occasionally, for reasons I can't yet determine, I can get a connection using TipTop. But usually it just says that the modem is online, when I try to dial, invites me to push a button telling it to hang up and redial, then after I do, eventually comes back with the message that it can't initialize the modem. I don't think the problem is with the modem. It works flawlessly with all the relevant programs on the DOS partition. Could the serial port somehow be locked, or not properly released by prior applications that have used it? I don't know if it's relevant, but the /dev/ directory looks quite different on the original CD-ROM. It looks like this: crw--w--w- 1 root 0, 0 Nov 11 1994 console crw------- 1 uucp 11,192 Nov 11 1994 cua crw------- 1 uucp 11,193 Nov 11 1994 cub crw------- 1 uucp 11,224 Nov 11 1994 cufa crw------- 1 uucp 11,225 Nov 11 1994 cufb But the information for the comparable part of the directory on the HARD DRIVE looks like this: crw--w--w- 1 root 0, 0 Sep 2 13:51 console crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,192 Sep 2 13:48 cua crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,193 Sep 2 13:49 cub crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,224 Sep 2 13:48 cufa crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,225 Sep 2 13:48 cufb <from here on down the files are they same> At all events, I'm out of my depth here, and would very much appreciate any suggestions. Many thanks, Chris ========================================================================= Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324 University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745 Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-2660 ========================================================================= --
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to create a 2-headed NeXT dimension (was: Next Dimention board questions) Date: 2 Sep 1995 21:23:39 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <42ai0r$n6h@clarknet.clark.net> References: <m0soWmh-000btOC@a-gain> <427vqr$pad@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> wrote: : > Well as with the ND you can have up to 3 Color displays (using : > 3 seperate ND boards) and one monochrome MPD at a time. You have to make sure you have the beefier power supply in your cube... apparently early cubes don't supply enough power. : : > The HPs can handle 2 displays and Suns Sparcs can also handle 3 : > (depending on the number of graphic-boards installed) : : Don't forget the intel's. NeXT's #9 128 driver claims it can : support upto 8 1600X1200 32bit displays!!! I havent been able to : verify it...Anyone care to donate a couple of cards and monitors : :) : The latest OpenStep Solutions issue covers this nicely. Of course, I don't know of any Intel machines that have 8 PCI slots. :-) The most I know if is a DEC server box that has 6 because they made a custom bridge on their Neptune chipset implementation. On my Triton chipset board, after SCSI and ethernet, I have only two left. Also, not all PC BIOS's can deal with more than one video card. I would like to know if it is possible to run this configuration: Elsa Winner Pro-X 4mb at 1152x864 (17" monitor) Elsa Winner 2000 2mb at 1024x768 (15" monitor) Note the two different VRAM sizes and different resolution settings at the same time. The cost savings are dramatic... :-) ..Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: translationprogram English <-> German Message-ID: <DEArxn.6Ky@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <41l208$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 21:34:35 GMT In article <41l208$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) writes: > Martin Polzer (polzerj@biw-ag.de) wrote: > : Hi, > > : I looking for a translationprogram where I can translate automatically > : text from English in German and the way round. > > : Can somebody tell me, where I can buy a tool like this for NEXTSTEP. > > The best way is to buy a dictionary - runs with all OSes ;-) Currently and for some time to come, it is the only way to get a decent translation. Mechanical translations that are around are terrible. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How do you tell NeXT where the nameserver is? Date: 2 Sep 1995 23:50:01 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> I finally got TransSYS PNI working on my P90 w/ NS/FIP, but now I don't know how to tell the OS where the nameserver is. As it runs now, I have to use the actual IP address to go anywhere, which is a real pain. I know there is an easy answer here, but I just don't know it. But I'm sure someone else here does. Thanks Nick Fogelson
From: mwdaniel@students.uiuc.edu (Michael W. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you tell NeXT where the nameserver is? Date: 3 Sep 1995 02:48:37 GMT Organization: Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <42b1hn$16c_002@cso.uiuc.edu> References: <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> In article <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu>, fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) wrote: >I finally got TransSYS PNI working on my P90 w/ NS/FIP, but now I don't know >how to tell the OS where the nameserver is. As it runs now, I have to use >the actual IP address to go anywhere, which is a real pain. Create /etc/resolv.conf with a line like nameserver 123.456.789.012 in it. Then things will work fine. (I *think* that that's the right filename, but I don't have access to my NeXT machine right now...) Mike Daniels
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 3 Sep 1995 05:17:32 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <42bdpc$ai5@news.xmission.com> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : So far I've exclusively used the Motorola (Black) hardware, so I don't have : any problem with sound files -- i.e., playing, recording, editing, etc. : However, I know I'll have to move to a new architecture someday, and I'd like : to continue using NeXTStep. I hear that sound files are either not supported : on Intel NS implementations, or that the sound file utilities don't work very : well. (I keep repeating "sound file" rather than just "sound", because I know : that the Music Kit works very well to synthesize sounds from certain sound : boards using their DSPs, but this is not what I want.) : By "sound file", I mean 16-bit, stereo, 44.1 KHz/channel sound file. : Has anyone had positive experiences working with sound files on Intel NS? : Has anyone had positive experiences working with sound files with NS on any : other architecture (like HP), except '04 of course. : Do any of the sound file utilities, like Sound Works, work anything other than : the black hardware? : Jim Beauchamp : j-beauch@uiuc.edu I use Sean Luke's Resound.app to work with sound files under NEXTSTEP/Intel. It's capable of working with 16-bit, stereo sound files. All the stereo sound files I've edited in Resound, however, are 22 KHz, two-channel sound files. Resound is a Photoshop for sound files. You can load modules into Resound, and use the Resound API in your own applications. It runs fine on Intel with my Pro Audio Spectrum, but I'm not sure if it runs on HP and SPARC, or if so, how well. -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTlaser Printer Cartridge Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 03:12:39 -400 Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <42bkh4$lin@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <42a2ka$9cu@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <42a2ka$9cu@news.duke.edu> Dean Blakeley MD <dblakele@acpub.duke.edu> wrote: > Grumble, grumble! > > The toner cartridge in my NeXTlaser printer has run out, and I can't > remember the exact type of cartridge that goes back in it. The > User's Guide is only for NEXTSTEP and the Admin Pages for on-line > documentation say to look in the NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer Owner's Guide > which I've never even heard about. > > I take the current HP toner cartridge to Office Depot and get silly looks > from the dim sales staff. Any pointers to this happy owner of orphaned > hardware would be greatly appreciated. > > Peace and Hugs > We are using HP LaserJet2 cartridges. I think that in addition they are the same as for HP LaserJet III - the Office Depot people should know. There are companies which will take your cartridge in exchange for a new one which will save you considerable amount of $$$. Have a nice and long weekend. Rudy Blazek.
From: steve@xray.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for Nextstep tool to create Audio CDs using a CD Writer device. Date: 3 Sep 1995 09:09:34 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <42brce$41p@peng.ping.at> From: Johannes Kretz Barmherzigengasse 1/1/10 A-1030 Wien AUSTRIA EUROPE Tel.: ++43/1/7128420 Email: johkretz@ping.at I am interested in creating Audio CDs (not CDROMs) by connecting a CD Writer e.g. Philips CDD522/10, Yamaha CDE-100 or CDR-100, Pinnacle RCD-1000, JVC XR2001, ... to my Next Cube 68040, NextStep 3.2. Please send me a message, if you know anything about. Thanks in advance Johannes Kretz johkretz@ping.at
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 3 Sep 1995 11:35:07 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42c3tb$pev@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: [...] : Has anyone had positive experiences working with sound files on Intel NS? I have done recording of 16 Bit/44.1 kHz stereo Soundfiles on my Intel Pentium 66 with ProAudioSpectrum16 up to 60 Megabyte filesize without major problems. It's important to keep the system load low when doing such. Not quite 'it just works' but better than on windows where this was not possible in spite of having 48 MB RAM. Playback works as long as you don't play multiple sounds at a time. sndplay will not playback files larger 16 MB or so but open it and simply quit leaving the file opened in a way that it can't be removed (You'll be able to unlink it, but the space stays used 'til the next reboot) Resound works well on Intel. Hope that helps. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: JLI <jli@ingress.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Installing/booting NextStep 3.3 On Same Disk With DOS,NT3.51? Date: 3 Sep 1995 16:37:44 GMT Organization: JLI Message-ID: <42clko$abi@stargate.ingress.com> References: <424ov6$csc@stargate.ingress.com> <426g9o$5ap@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) wrote: >JLI <jli@ingress.com> wrote: >> Can anybody confirm that this is the case based on their experience. > >Yes, the boot procedure should work as you described it. But better be sure >and make a backup copy... :-) Thanks. And yes, I am waiting receipt of backup tape drive before I start it. > >> [...] leaving the NT booter alone where it is now in boot1 boot record. > >What do you mean by "boot1 boot record"? NT has no real boot record. It >replaces your MS-DOS system files by a special "NT aware" version. When you >boot DOS, this version looks for some hidden files in your DOS partition >and the boots NT via the NTLDR program. Just using (or perhaps abusing) the terminology I read in NextAnswers 1951 MoreThanOneOS 1994SummerFall -jl
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Searching for scientific graphing package Date: 3 Sep 1995 19:16:26 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <42cuua$he7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: Graphing Hello all! I'm on the hunt for some scientific graphing packages. I have a need to display some rather complex graphs that have a scientific looking output (yep... I know thats rather subjective). GnuPlot (along with the wonderful NeXT Frontend) does a great job for most of my needs. However, I need to now display a bar graph where each bar contains several groups of data (a stacked bar). I have been unable to get GNUPlot to produce this type of graph. I own ParaSheet and Graphity. I have gotten both of them to produce graphs of the desired type, but both have trouble graphing when I have a large dataset. I also think that the output of those packages doesn't convey the "scientific" look that I want. Further, they don't do such a good job rendering to B&W devices. If anybody knows of other (hopefully non-commercial) packages, I would love to hear about them. Many TIA for your thoughts. - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: biff@firstclass.unb.ca (Thomas Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: need online c/s consultants Date: 3 Sep 1995 19:49:28 GMT Organization: FirstClass Systems P.D.C. Message-ID: <42d0s8$a3g@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello ... I'm an Instructional Designer with a CBT production company. We are producing a series of courses on client/server technology and need additional subject matter experts/consultants. The work will involve checking material for accuracy, answering questions, suggesting reading/sources, and evaluating scripts. This work can be done online. If you are interested ... or if you know of someone who might be interested ... please contact me at biff@firstclass.unb.ca Thomas "Biff" Mitchell Silence says it all.
From: Gerald Wildgruber Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: State of art in the NeXT dump/restore question ? Date: 3 Sep 1995 20:10:53 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <42d24d$hvb@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, this is not for renewing the well known discussion on the dump/restore problem with NeXT. I just want to ask if any document meanwhile appeared to resume this question. I consulted NeXTAnswers and the whole of comp.sys.next.*, archived and indexed (since 89) on the Peanuts NeXT CD; in short, the problem was to read dump tapes with the restore command: a solution oftenly given was the mtset program wich fixes the blocksize of tape devices; in NeXTAnswers I then could read that the problem should definitely disappear with the SCSI tape driver ver.3.31. Another posting mentioned the newly implemented stblocksize program, shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.3. ; it is run from /etc/rc to atomatically fix the block size. Thus mtset seems no longer necessary as it has been before. Given all these hints, restore still doesn't work for me : I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel and I'm using the HP35470A DAT Streamer. With no mtset command given before (because of stblocksize run during boot time), I get the well known messages: root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 Tape/disk read error: I/O error I repeat this twenty times and I get: root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 Tape/disk block size (512) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) Again I'm repeating this command about twenty times and suddenly restore begins to work with this message: root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 Note: Doing Quad swapping (...) restore > ls From there on restoring is possible but incredibly slow. I also tried Markus Wenzel's proposal: >Anyway, the better solution is to dump in variable size >mode (no mtset, or mtset without any option) and restore after doing a >'mtset -i', which means "ignore illegal length reports and continue >restore". It just works fine for me and my WangDAT but without improvement in my unhappy case. Another question is the length parameter -s for the dump command; I couldn't find any systematic answer on how to determine this number. Apparently backup with dump/restore works, but I imagine typing x times the whole command in single user mode (without history-function), desperately trying to restore the whole NeXT partition. Is there any solution beyond this perhaps-perhaps-not basis ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Gerald.
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 3 Sep 1995 21:20:37 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <42d675$8gl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42c3tb$pev@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: >I have done recording of 16 Bit/44.1 kHz stereo Soundfiles on >my Intel Pentium 66 with ProAudioSpectrum16 up to 60 Megabyte >filesize without major problems. It's important to keep the >system load low when doing such. Not quite 'it just works' but >better than on windows where this was not possible in spite >of having 48 MB RAM. 60 Mbytes limits the duration to about 5.5 minutes, unless you drop to the 22.05 KHz sample rate. I know of no such limit with the Black NeXT. Maybe it's just a matter of using a higher clock rate Pentium, a faster hard drive, and more buffer memory? >Playback works as long as you don't play multiple sounds at a time. I don't think it makes sense to try this unless you are using a real time mixing program like 'RT'. I wonder if 'RT' works on an Intel. >sndplay will not playback files larger [than] 16 MB >or so but [will] open it and simply quit leaving the file opened in >a way that it can't be removed (You'll be able to unlink it, but >the space stays used 'til the next reboot) So only use sndplay for very short files, or you are in deep water -- a real bummer! >Resound works well on Intel. Kristopher Magnusson also mentioned that he was using Resound with the ProAudioSpectrum16, which I assume is a particular manufacturer's sound board for Intel. Care to give particulars about the board and the software? (manufacturer, phone no., price). Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:08:10 +1000 Organization: University of Queensland Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. Check them out at my page at: http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html Graeme (graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 4 Sep 1995 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <42duge$10k@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 4 Sep 1995 13:04:26 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42c3tb$pev@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42d675$8gl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: : >I have done recording of 16 Bit/44.1 kHz stereo Soundfiles on : >my Intel Pentium 66 with ProAudioSpectrum16 up to 60 Megabyte : >filesize without major problems. It's important to keep the : >system load low when doing such. Not quite 'it just works' but : >better than on windows where this was not possible in spite : >of having 48 MB RAM. : 60 Mbytes limits the duration to about 5.5 minutes, unless you drop to the : 22.05 KHz sample rate. I know of no such limit with the Black NeXT. Maybe it's : just a matter of using a higher clock rate Pentium, a faster hard drive, and : more buffer memory? I did _not_ say it would not work with files > 60 MB, I just never tried it. I think you won't have any problems doing longer recordings, as the system load is constant during the recording and all data gets written directly to disk. : >Playback works as long as you don't play multiple sounds at a time. : I don't think it makes sense to try this unless you are using a real time : mixing program like 'RT'. I wonder if 'RT' works on an Intel. The problem occurs when playing back a sound and getting a beep in between. On a Soundblaster, this produces a loud 'crack' sound, sometimes playback gets mute. : >sndplay will not playback files larger [than] 16 MB : >or so but [will] open it and simply quit leaving the file opened in : >a way that it can't be removed (You'll be able to unlink it, but : >the space stays used 'til the next reboot) : So only use sndplay for very short files, or you are in deep water -- a real : bummer! Use Resound. This works fine even for very large files. : >Resound works well on Intel. : Kristopher Magnusson also mentioned that he was using Resound with the : ProAudioSpectrum16, which I assume is a particular manufacturer's sound board : for Intel. Care to give particulars about the board and the software? : (manufacturer, phone no., price). The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember correctly). They went Chapter 11 some time ago and I don't know if they still exist. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: INTERNAL FAX/MODEM FOR NEXTSTEP? Date: 4 Sep 1995 12:46:25 GMT Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS Message-ID: <42esf1$733$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Can anybody recommend me an internal modem/fax that works fine with NS 3.3 (tested). I have problems with my Zoltrix board. Thanks in advance. Jesus Izquierdo
From: valcom@cencom.net (Bryan E. Siverly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 16:21:13 GMT Organization: Valcom Learning Center Message-ID: <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: > I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change > them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. > Check them out at my page at: > http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do so much more work with their own superior OS. Methinks they protest too much. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Siverly Valcom Learning Center valcom@cencom.net 400 Iles Park Place (217) 528-0933 Springfield, IL 62718 -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 4 Sep 1995 16:46:54 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <42fahu$tta@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: > The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember > correctly). They went Chapter 11 some time ago and I don't > know if they still exist. They still exist, but as I understand it, they're out of the hardware or retail business. On the sound file question, the last time I asked around, we were having troubles with 44KHz stereo playback.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you tell NeXT where the nameserver is? Date: 04 Sep 1995 16:55:45 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <CHUCK.95Sep4115545@paulina.its.com> References: <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> In-reply-to: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu's message of 2 Sep 1995 23:50:01 GMT In article <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) writes: > I finally got TransSYS PNI working on my P90 w/ NS/FIP, but now I don't > know how to tell the OS where the nameserver is. Edit or create /etc/resolv.conf. Look at "man 5 resolver".... -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: different ELSA boards (was: How to create a 2-headed NeXT dimension) Message-ID: <1995Sep4.105726.14840@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger References: <42ai0r$n6h@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:57:26 GMT In article <42ai0r$n6h@clarknet.clark.net> chin@clark.net (Chin) writes: ... > I would like to know if it is possible to run this configuration: > Elsa Winner Pro-X 4mb at 1152x864 (17" monitor) > Elsa Winner 2000 2mb at 1024x768 (15" monitor) > > Note the two different VRAM sizes and different resolution settings > at the same time. I successfully ran a Elsa Winner Pro-X 2mb together with a 1000 AVI at different resolutions and color depths. I guess as long as they are using two instances of the same driver (the Pro-X and 1000 AVI do) you should be fine. Your mileage may vary. A. Ploeger -- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Interlink Advertising References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:59:27 GMT In article <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net>, valcom@cencom.net wrote: >Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: > > >> I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change >> them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. > >> Check them out at my page at: > >> http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html > >Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. > >Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do >so much more work with their own superior OS. > >Methinks they protest too much. no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@hypermall.com As a matter of fact, I DO speak for the company! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Internal SCSI disk under 3.2 NS/fip Date: 4 Sep 1995 16:14:07 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <42fmmf$dcr@panix.com> Hey All, I want to hook up an internal SCSI hard disk (1.3g Hitachi) to my gateway 66V running NS/fip 3.2 (white), with no luck. It appears when I hook it up and it is recognized at ID #0, the machine has a sys panic(6,3,1??). It appears that SCSI has dominance over IDE as a boot device here. I tried disconnecting the IDE and donig a full install from CD on the SCSI. This also failed with a message like "thread: Interrrupt..: -735". If anyone has been successful with this sort of thing let me know. Also, if you know why I need to spend 100+ for an external housing, do tell. --thanks, RS
From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Internal SCSI disk under 3.2 NS/fip Date: 4 Sep 1995 20:34:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <42fnt2$5dk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <42fmmf$dcr@panix.com> In <42fmmf$dcr@panix.com> rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) writes: > > >Hey All, > >I want to hook up an internal SCSI hard disk (1.3g Hitachi) >to my gateway 66V running NS/fip 3.2 (white), with no luck. > >It appears when I hook it up and it is recognized at ID #0, >the machine has a sys panic(6,3,1??). It appears that SCSI >has dominance over IDE as a boot device here. > >I tried disconnecting the IDE and donig a full install >from CD on the SCSI. This also failed with a message >like "thread: Interrrupt..: -735". > Are you using an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI controller ? That would explain the "thread: Interrupt returns: -735" messages. If so, you need to get the updated Adaptec 1542 driver from NeXTanswers (#1520 & 1521, and 1541 if you need to install using the updated driver). That should take care of any problems. Regards, Jeff Trestrail trail@ix.netcom.com
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 22:31:38 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) wrote: >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market just left a crap on os2 and ran away.
From: jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: 5 Sep 1995 00:40:16 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Message-ID: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> I know it is still there,but where is NeXTSTEP stuff? ftp.dn.net changes to Windows NT now,and I can only see mac and windows directory,where is Peanut's mirror? -- Albert Chun-Chieh Huang(¶À«T³Ç) <u8213006@cc.nctu.edu.tw> <jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw> Dept. of Communication Eng. <albert@ccnext1.cc.nctu.edu.tw> National Chiao-Tung University NeXTMail and MIME is welcome. Member of NCTU NeXT User Group
From: danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 01:44:53 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <42gaaa$4fl@nntp.crl.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: >Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >just left a crap on os2 and ran away. What? Warp runs on an Apple II? Cool! Where can I get it? BTW, OS/2 Warp isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, dead. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS danb@a.crl.com, NOT danb@crl.com Don't tread on me.
From: jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 01:45:23 GMT Organization: here Message-ID: <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: > erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) wrote: > > > >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS > >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, > >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. > >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. > > Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. > Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market > just left a crap on os2 and ran away. Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said.
From: welston@halcyon.com (William E. Elston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 19:15:48 -0700 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> In article <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: > Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market > just left a crap on os2 and ran away. From another of what Harold Rosenberg referred to as the "thundering herd of independent minds." -- William E. Elston <URL:http://www.halcyon.com/welston/>
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 02:48:22 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42gffj$o3b@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42gaaa$4fl@nntp.crl.com> danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) wrote: > What? Warp runs on an Apple II? Cool! Where can I get it? Don't look now, but your brain farted.
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 02:56:54 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: > But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. So what your saying is that we happy few tens of millions are just a bunch of stupid mind numb robots who need to be told what operating system to run. That we can't make logical decisions on our own, that we can't read, that we can't see that os2 is not worth the trouble. And no doubt you'd like to coddle and caress us into os2, by saying; "We just want to help you". Frankly you sound like a liberal democrat. And therfore I don't want anything to do with you. So go warp somewhere else.
From: danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 03:55:37 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <42ghvi$6k5@nntp.crl.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42gaaa$4fl@nntp.crl.com> <42gffj$o3b@itchy.itsnet.com> jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: >> What? Warp runs on an Apple II? Cool! Where can I get it? >Don't look now, but your brain farted. Well, the message _was_ in comp.sys.apple2... What I didn't realize was that it was in 20+ other groups as well. Ah well... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS danb@a.crl.com, NOT danb@crl.com Don't tread on me.
From: dialtone95@aol.com (DialTone95) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 4 Sep 1995 23:58:57 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> It sure seems like the people who rip Win 95 the most are MAC users.. if it sucks so bad then what the hell are you so worried about? The fact that there is such a backlash of Mac users against Win 95 makes me believe that Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 than Mac '87 as so many people say.. If Microsoft would have just released DOS 4.0 I highly doubt there would be even so much as a whisper coming from the Mac community.. but since they released something which seems to have created such a big backlash with Mac users it would seem to point that Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 than Mac users would like to believe. DialTone95@aol.com --> WARNING <-- I am NOT a normal AOL loser. Please do not assume just because I have @aol.com after my name that I am an idiot. Thank you for your understanding. :) Quote: Give me 30 minutes and I'll give you a half hour.
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 4 Sep 1995 22:15:12 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <42ftpg$97d@gate.seicom.net> References: <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42fahu$tta@nntp.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) wrote: > In article <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel > Habermann) writes: > > The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember ... > On the sound file question, the last time I asked around, > we were having troubles with 44KHz stereo playback. No, I does work fine* doing 44 KHz on EISA. However I was never able to do so on my older ISA board. It all depends on the environment... *I once wrote a MOD player for NS/FIP (based on tracker 2.3 by M. Espie), and I did quite a lot testing.... - Frank --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page: http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy
From: G.Vaughn@ttu.edu (Greg Vaughn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 23:37:39 -0500 Organization: Austin-Seer Corp. Message-ID: <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dialtone95@aol.com (DialTone95) wrote: > It sure seems like the people who rip Win 95 the most are MAC users.. if > it sucks so bad then what the hell are you so worried about? The fact that > there is such a backlash of Mac users against Win 95 makes me believe that > Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 than Mac '87 as so many people say.. If > Microsoft would have just released DOS 4.0 I highly doubt there would be > even so much as a whisper coming from the Mac community.. but since they > released something which seems to have created such a big backlash with > Mac users it would seem to point that Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 > than Mac users would like to believe. The reason I, as a Mac user, dislikes Win95 (which I have used) is that I'm tired of all the hype. If you believe all the ads, then Win95 must be the greates thing since toilet paper. I just saw at least 3 Win95 commercials during Monday Night Football (way to go Cowboys! :) They included comments about how it used to be hard to add a peripheral to a computer, but now Win95 makes it easier, and how it used to be hard to multi-task, but Win95 makes it possible. I just want to holler "MACS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS FOR YEARS!" I'll have to agree that Micro$loth is much better at marketing than Apple, but I still believe that Apple has more ingenuitive ideas and better programmers. If Apple plays its cards right, it can actually benefit from Win95. Since so many users will have to buy new hardware to run it, then maybe Apple can sway them to Macs. After all, since all of the reviews of Win95 comment on how it is more Mac-like, then maybe Apple can convince people to go ahead a buy the real thing since they need new hardware and new versions of software to actually use Win95. -- Greg Vaughn G.Vaughn@ttu.edu Newton Developer NETSeer Corp. "If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle" {My views do not necessarily represent those of my employer}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: curses library Message-ID: <1995Sep2.183505.493@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830202451.4980A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:35:05 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950830202451.4980A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: > > whilst trying to compiling the latest greatest version of 'ncftp' I was > given this message by the configure script: > > configure: warning: You have an older curses library, but it > configure: warning: can't be used because it does not have the > configure: warning: functions wnoutrefresh and doupdate, which > configure: warning: NcFTP needs. > > alrighty then. I'm the last one who'd want an old curses library. > Where can I get the latest greatest version (which I am assuming > will work with 3.2 m68k) of 'curses'? > There is 'ncurses' on the NeXT ftp-archives. It is an older version I ported some time ago, but the newer versions of ncurses do not work out of the box. -- ----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org ----- C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 04:16:37 GMT Organization: Madd Hacking, Inc. Message-ID: <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: jdoe@somewhere.edu jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: >In article <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: > >> erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) wrote: >> >> >> >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS >> >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, >> >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. >> >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. >> >> Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. >> Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >> just left a crap on os2 and ran away. > >Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, >particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts >that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to >Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out!
From: smikes@universe.digex.net (Steven Mikes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x.intrinsics,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse,comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.pre-release Subject: Cross Platform Solutions Now Online Free Date: 5 Sep 1995 07:34:37 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <42guid$ger@news4.digex.net> Hello! The premier issue of Cross Platform Solutions is now available at the following URL: http://landru.unx.com/DD/solutions/index.shtml Cross Platform Solutions is a magazine designed for developers and other professionals in the X11/Motif, MS Windows, OS/2, Windows NT, Windows '95, Macintosh, NeXT, and IBM mainframe legacy envrionments. The magazine has a strong technical focus and is designed for discussion of cross-platform development, administration, management and end-user topics. You must be a registered subscriber to read the magazine, but on-line subscriptions are absolutely free. There is a hotlink to the subscription form from the URL above. Everyone is invited to read the premier issue free of charge. Questions are welcome as are your opinions and feedback. If you are a cross-platform software professional who might be interested in authoring a feature story, a regular column, product review, interview or some other relevant article, please contact me after reading the premier issue. Thanks, Steven Mikes -- Steven Mikes - Editor, The X Advisor/Cross Platform Solutions OFFICE: 908.563.9033 - FAX: 908.560.8635 - EMAIL: smikes@unx.com URL: "http://landru.unx.com/" ---------------------------------------------------------------- "There can be only one!" - Highlander
From: smashcat@union4.su.swin.edu.au (Douglas Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 5 Sep 1995 07:23:54 GMT Organization: Swinburne University of Technology Message-ID: <42gtua$fml@lucy.swin.edu.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While maiming time, I espied the following from Bryan E. Siverly: : Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: : > I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to : > change them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth : > were honest.. : > Check them out at my page at: : > http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html : Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. : Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do : so much more work with their own superior OS. Perhaps it's his way of protesting at just where those bloody threads on and about Windows 95 have spawned themselves into. I mean, it is almost literally *everywhere*. The arguments involved are usually circular flames and counter-flames directed at people who won't listen, and inflicted on people that don't give a shit. Will someone please tell me what the debate about co-operative multitasking vs. pre-emptive multitasking (with the sublots PC vs. Mac, PC vs. Amiga, Mac vs. Amiga and Bill Gates vs. God) has to do with the topic of ROLE-PLAYING GAMES? (Example grabbed at random). The whole shebang, (Macro$loth inspired no doubt. What those bastards will do for publicity no longer fazes me,) should be kept to the comp.sys.*.advocacy groups (that's what they're there for), and to the *.flame groups (for the proliferation of easy targets)..... Cheers! Doug. -- _.--Email: smashcat@union4.su.swin.edu.au--944682@bud.cc.swin.edu.au.--. _ // I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed | \X/ or numbered! My life is my own. - No.6 to No.2, "The Prisoner" | `--------*Dogs crawl under fences. Software crawls under Windows*--------'
From: Rex Belcher <rex.belcher@eng.ox.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 08:35:07 GMT Organization: University of Oxford, Department of Engineering Science Message-ID: <42h23r$7fc@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> wrote: >jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: >>In article <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: >> >>> erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) wrote: >>> >>> >>> >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS >>> >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, >>> >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. >>> >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. >>> >>> Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. >>> Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >>> just left a crap on os2 and ran away. >> >>Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, >>particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts >>that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to >>Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >>stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >>it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >>market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >>it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. > >If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this >newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! > He's probably in this newsgroup because some peabrain posted to all comp.sys newsgroups, so why was it posted there? -- ********************************************** The views expressed here are entirely my own, and not those of THE MANAGEMENT. rex.belcher@eng.ox.ac.uk **********************************************
From: Luci.Ellis@anu.edu.au (Luci Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 19:34:03 +1000 Organization: ANU Message-ID: <Luci.Ellis-0509951934030001@150.203.102.56> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> wrote: > If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this > newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! Tonight I posted a tongue in cheek list of things I have learnt from UseNet, on comp.sys.mac.advocacy. I forgot one: 11) *Some* Windows 95 advocates are so stooopid that they can't tell when a thread is cross-posted to 20 groups, most of them not Windows groups (count'em, I didn't trim them this time). In fact, I've *only* ever seen Windows advocates say this, and this guy sure isn't the only one.... Don't bother replying unless you're going to email it to me too, tonight is the last night I UseNet for a long long time... Cheers, Luci. (I tried not to flame, Mom, I tried, I tried....) -- Luci.Ellis@anu.edu.au "can't you kids play together *nicely*? --my mother, c. 1978 True then, true now. -- help me cut my UseNet habit by mailing as well as posting replies.
From: gkrichau@unlgrad1.unl.edu (Gary Krichau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 13:14:40 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln Message-ID: <gkrichau-0509950836590001@me-gkrichau.unl.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> Uh, excuse me, but what do all of these posts have to do with Newtons? -- Gary Krichau Central Facility for Electron Microscopy University of Nebraska-Lincoln gkrichau@unlgrad1.unl.edu
From: broidoj@gti.net (Jeffrey R. Broido) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 13:31:51 GMT Organization: Broido Computer Consulting Message-ID: <42hjmb$qql@gti.gti.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Hmmm. So, Graeme says that Window 95 is equivalent to Mac 87, eh, what? I suggest that he compare the two operating systems side-by-side. He should compare the following: 1) Attractiveness and sophistication of the user interface. 2) Ergonomics provided by the right mouse button (what right mouse button?) 3) The latest Mac OS uses cooperative multitasking just as Windows 3.1 did. Windows 95 uses mainframe-style preemptive multitasking for its native applications just as NT and OS/2 do. 4) The latest Mac OS has a single message thread while Windows 95 has multiple threads. With the Mac, if an application hangs while responding to a message, the whole system hangs. Yes, indeed, MS is now claiming that Windows 95 is document centric just as the Mac is, not that I see much difference in this area, and one can now plant items on the desktop, just as one can with the Mac. The shell, indeed, does look and work more like the Mac shell. But there's a lot more to an OS than its shell. As for the stability issue, I've found Windows 95 to be very stable, indeed, at least as stable as my friends' Macs if not somewhat moreso. They're both stable. The big difference is that there's lots more software and hardware available for this platform than for the Mac. Don't get me wrong, mate. I don't despise the Mac. I don't feel threatened by the Mac. I just think one should get one's facts straight. Jeff _____________________________________________________________ Jeffrey R. Broido "No Statements Flagged Morristown, NJ in this Assembly."
From: jcz+@pitt.edu (J C Zahorchak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 5 Sep 1995 14:01:23 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <42hl7j$77d@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42hjmb$qql@gti.gti.net> In article <42hjmb$qql@gti.gti.net>, Jeffrey R. Broido <broidoj@gti.net> wrote: >Hmmm. So, Graeme says that Window 95 is equivalent to Mac 87, eh, what? [snip snip snip] Oh it's wonderful to have all the little students back at school, isn't it?
From: coplien@chem.wisc.edu (mike) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 14:12:20 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <42hls4$1kvk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> <gkrichau-0509950836590001@me-gkrichau.unl.edu> >--------------- gkrichau@unlgrad1.unl.edu (Gary Krichau) > > Uh, excuse me, but what do all of these posts have to do with Newtons? Doesn't anybody bother to look in the newsgroups section of a posting? This is the usenet at work - cranking out useless blathering across unrelated groups and rep..rep..reppp repeated questions. We need a new system. The uselessnet has out grown it's usefulness. But since nobody's in charge, the only way to get action is to bring to its knees. I say let's bring it down. A typical cross posting: comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, aus.computers.ibm-pc, aus.computers.sun, aus.computers.os2, aus.computers.amiga, comp.sys.amiga.misc, comp.sys.apple2, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, comp.sys.intel, comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc, comp.sys.misc, comp.sys.newton.misc, comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.sgi.misc, comp.sys.sun.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup, comp.windows.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 5 Sep 1995 16:35:16 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <42hu84$mdg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42c3tb$pev@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42d675$8gl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: >James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: >>Use Resound. This works fine even for very large files. Who makes it, where do you get it, and how much is it? >The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember >correctly). They went Chapter 11 some time ago and I don't >know if they still exist. There ought to be a better source. I read a review of various boards about 2 years ago, and the MediaVision boards were given a very low rating because of their inferior signal-to-noise ratio (~65 dB). Turtle Beach's boards were much better (75 dB) and Ariel's much better yet. Of course, the price goes up. A better way to get around this problem is to use a board that has AES/EBU in/out and rely on the recorder -- e.g., a DAT -- to supply the best possible S/N. The latter two boards are supported by the MusicKit, but I don't know if this includes sound file support. frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: >bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) wrote: >> In article <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel >> Habermann) writes: >> > The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember >... >> On the sound file question, the last time I asked around, >> we were having troubles with 44KHz stereo playback. > >No, I does work fine* doing 44 KHz on EISA. However I was never able to >do so on my older ISA board. It all depends on the environment... This sounds more encouraging. Use a new machine with EISA, lots of RAM, fast hard drive. It *should* work under NeXTStep if the drivers are there. Jim Beauchamp
From: rockwell@connect.net (Martin "Rocky" Rockwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting screen depth to 24bit?? Date: 5 Sep 1995 16:22:14 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <42htfm$rk9@dallas1.connect.net> References: <41n8a9$22he@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <41n8a9$22he@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) says: > >Hi - > > Am running into an odd problem on the NEXT workstation. When I save >a file as a .tiff (such as in IconBuilder) it works perfectly fine on my >system, but no other machine in the world seems to be able to read it. >I've tried xv and a number of DOS programs and translators, and they all >think the file is garbage. All I can figure is that the 12-bit depth is >confusing them. I tried using the dwrite -g setScreenDepth24 or some >suche (a while back) but after rebooting everything is still 12 bits deep. >Any one else having probs with tiff portability? Know a workaround? >Thanks in advance for the info. > >Rich What I've done that is real easy is use IconBuilder. From the menu select Layout (I think ... I don't have access to NeXT right now). You should get a box that lists 2bit-8 bit grey and 12bit -24bit color. Select the 24bit color and make sure you uncheck the 12bit color (or you'll get garbage again), then save it. If you want to use it on DOS machines just delete one "f" on the file name. I hope that helps! rocky
From: manders1@swarthmore.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 17:05:09 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <manders1-0509951305100001@b13.public.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So what your saying is that we happy few tens of millions are > just a bunch of stupid mind numb robots who need to > be told what operating system to run. That we can't make > logical decisions on our own, that we can't read, that > we can't see that os2 is not worth the trouble. If most of the people in this country could actually make logical decisions I am sure it would be a much better place! So yes, I do agree with what you say above. =) > And no doubt you'd like to coddle and caress us into os2, by > saying; "We just want to help you". Frankly you sound like a > liberal democrat. Thanks for the compliment! =) And therfore I don't want anything to do > with you. Oh, I'm sooo sorry...*sniff sniff*. And what are you, a conservative Republican? The Newt is my shepard, I shall not want... Mike
From: mcgilton@Eng.Sun.COM (Henry McGilton[T50310]) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Searching for scientific graphing package Date: 5 Sep 1995 17:19:47 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Message-ID: <42i0rj$a7v@engnews1.eng.sun.com> References: <42cuua$he7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article he7@msunews.cl.msu.edu, perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: > >Hello all! I'm on the hunt for some scientific graphing packages. >I have a need to display some rather complex graphs that have a >scientific looking output (yep... I know thats rather subjective). You might try LogicStream to see if their Espionage package will do the job. Send E-Mail to info@logicstream.com to get in touch with them. ........ Henry
From: me@somewhere.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 17:07:58 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <me-0509951308000001@b13.public.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" > >> >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS > >> >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, > >> >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. > >> >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. > >> > >> Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. > >> Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market > >> just left a crap on os2 and ran away. > > > >Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, > >particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts > >that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to > >Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are > >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy > >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the > >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately > >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. > > If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this > newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! Come and make me! Muhahahahaha!!!
From: Thomas Karlsen <sledge@algonet.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:53:15 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> The most irretating thing is when Microsoft says "The world have been waiting for a 32-bit operating system with true multitasking".. Makes me feel sick.. the *ALWAYS* think they are first to do everything. Can't they stand that OS/2, Amiga, Mac was there *AGES* ago with all that stuff.. The Amiga have had *SUPERIOR* multitasking and 32bit OS since the first Amiga came in 1985.. OS/2 have been on the PC's in 5 years or so on the *SAME* platform too. But Microsoft still lives in their own world.. Argh! That is what makes people ANGRY AS HELL!! /Thomas
From: Paul Rossman <prossm1@icarus.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: copy root from one hd to another... Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:38:05 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950905123506.4016C-100000@icarus.cc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'd like to switch hard drives (from a noisy fujitsu to a quite quantum) and was wondering if it would be possible to just copy every thing from old one to the new one. Are there any side effects (/etc/disktab, etc???) I should know of?? thanks in advance! -paul -- "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." Paul Rossman -- University of Illinois at Chicago -- School of Art & Design email: prossm1@uic.edu http://icarus.uic.edu/~prossm1
From: rost@nutshell (Brian Rost) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 05 Sep 1995 20:19:46 GMT Organization: Ascom Nexion Message-ID: <ROST.95Sep5161946@nutshell> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> In-reply-to: Thomas Karlsen's message of Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:53:15 +0200 (MET DST) In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> Thomas Karlsen <sledge@algonet.se> writes: > The most irretating thing is when Microsoft says "The world have been > waiting for a 32-bit operating system with true multitasking".. > > Makes me feel sick.. the *ALWAYS* think they are first to do everything. > Can't they stand that OS/2, Amiga, Mac was there *AGES* ago with all that > stuff.. The Amiga have had *SUPERIOR* multitasking and 32bit OS since the > first Amiga came in 1985.. OS/2 have been on the PC's in 5 years or so on > the *SAME* platform too. But Microsoft still lives in their own world.. No, that's not what Microsoft thinks...it's what they chose to use as ad copy!!! Marketing folks talk about "mindshare", which means convincing people that something is a fact when it is not. A big part of the Win95 marketing strategy was leaking details to the marketplace steadily so as to sway people to *wait* for the release rather than go to some competing OS. Mindshare can kill you; look at DEC who are still trying to overcome market fears that they are not "serious" about UNIX even thought their machines are more "open" than Sun, who has convinced the world they have an open system (as long as you run *their* UNIX...). I won't mention what mindshare did to Amiga and Atari 8^( 8^( ...both of whom had systems that in many ways surpassed the Mac (not to mention Intel clones) back in 85-86. -- Brian Rost Ascom Nexion rost@nexen.com ******************************************************** In August 1995, two new consumer products are becoming generally available for the first time: Windows 95, the new operating system from Microsoft and Tagamet, the formerly prescription heartburn and ulcer drug. Coincidence? ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Message-ID: <rfenney-050995131623@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:08:10 GMT In article <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>, leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) wrote: > NEXT IN LINE, #4 arrived a few days ago. It's worth subscribing too. >> Stuff Cut << How? Robert
From: "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 19:07:11 GMT Organization: Madd Hacking, Inc. Message-ID: <42i74v$c7c@news.corpcomm.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> <me-0509951308000001@b13.public.swarthmore.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit me@somewhere.edu wrote: >In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" >> >> >no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS >> >> >STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, >> >> >and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. >> >> >once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. >> >> >> >> Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. >> >> Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >> >> just left a crap on os2 and ran away. >> > >> >Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, >> >particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts >> >that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to >> >Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >> >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >> >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >> >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >> >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. >> >> If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this >> newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! > >Come and make me! Muhahahahaha!!! Ahhh... A 10 year old and his computer...
From: lc30@cornell.edu (Lewis Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you tell NeXT where the nameserver is? Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 16:21:35 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <lc30-0509951621360001@128.253.203.97> References: <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> In article <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu>, fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) wrote: > I finally got TransSYS PNI working on my P90 w/ NS/FIP, but now I don't know > how to tell the OS where the nameserver is. As it runs now, I have to use the > actual IP address to go anywhere, which is a real pain. > > I know there is an easy answer here, but I just don't know it. But I'm sure > someone else here does. > > Thanks > > Nick Fogelson Go into any text editor like Emacs or vi or even Edit and make a file called resolve.conf and put in it the names of the nameserver followed by their ip addresses, like: blah.cc.univerity.edu 128.250.120.1 O.K.? And save it on /etc/,... God I forgot....you can find exactly this information in the NEXTSTEP System Administration and Network blah blah's book from Addison Wesley. If this helped at all, I'm glad.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Keywords: publication magazine nextstep References: <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmnug.org> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:26:08 GMT Message-ID: <1995Sep5.092608.4417@proximus.north.de> In article <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmnug.org>, Leif Smith <leif@pattern.rmnug.org> wrote: >NEXT IN LINE, #4 arrived a few days ago. It's worth subscribing too. Sorry, I forgot the address to ask for subscriptions. Could it be repeated for me? Also, how much would it be with shipping for German customers? Is there a german distributor for NIL? Finally, why not consider to publish a postscript version that could be emaild to subscribers -- it would save me the - probably quite high - shipping costs. Thanks, Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: fuz@deltanet.com (Scott Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 5 Sep 1995 21:44:17 GMT Organization: Delta Internet Services, Anaheim, CA Message-ID: <42igbh$hrk@news1.deltanet.com> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dialtone95@aol.com (DialTone95) wrote: >It sure seems like the people who rip Win 95 the most are MAC users.. if >it sucks so bad then what the hell are you so worried about? The fact that >there is such a backlash of Mac users against Win 95 makes me believe that >Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 than Mac '87 as so many people say.. If >Microsoft would have just released DOS 4.0 I highly doubt there would be >even so much as a whisper coming from the Mac community.. but since they >released something which seems to have created such a big backlash with >Mac users it would seem to point that Win 95 is a lot closer to Mac 95 >than Mac users would like to believe. Well, DOS 4 did not have a multi million dollar advertising budget. Win95 is about as "in-your-face" as any software product has been in recent memory - there were even segments on the news about it, and the people buying it, using it, throwing it away, raving about it, etc. Win95 is a great improvement over Win3.1. It is still garbage, but it is a lot closer to what it should be. Had they been able to make these kind of interface changes over the fairly solid core of NT, and have it be compatible, then it might well have moved out of the dreck category, but they could not, at least not while missing the deadline by no more than a year and a half as they did. Scott Scott Ellsworth fuz@deltanet.com "When a great many people are unable to find work, unemployment results" - Calvin Coolidge, (Stanley Walker, City Editor, p. 131 (1934)) "The barbarian is thwarted at the moat." - Scott Adams
From: Matthew Reichman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Date: 5 Sep 1995 23:26:40 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-e-46.usc.edu Message-ID: <42imbg$4f@usc.edu> References: <1995Sep1.172231.797@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <rfenney-050995131623@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) wrote: > How? NIL subscription rates (4 issues/year): $24 - U.S. $34 - Canada $44 - International prices valid until October 26, 1995 Will take check/money order, VISA, MasterCard to: NEXT IN LINE 4440 S. Maryland Pkwy, Suite 208A Box #216 Las Vegas, Nevada tel: 702-792-2488 fax: 702-792-6794 or subscription@nil.com (I'm not a rep for them nor damn-well anybody else!:-) -- Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: mlankeit@razzb (Markus Lankeit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: translationprogram English <-> German Date: 5 Sep 1995 20:46:09 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <42icuh$3on@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <41l208$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> <DEArxn.6Ky@RnA.NL> M. Wesemann built and released an app called "Dictionary" that is a German<->English dictionary (written much in the same style Webster's is). I don't know if it works from the command line or if there's source out there, but you may want to check. I'd be happy to send the binary via NeXT or MIME mail. markus Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL wrote: > In article <41l208$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer > Sokoll) writes: > > Martin Polzer (polzerj@biw-ag.de) wrote: > > : Hi, > > > > : I looking for a translationprogram where I can translate automatically > > : text from English in German and the way round. > > > > : Can somebody tell me, where I can buy a tool like this for NEXTSTEP. > > > > The best way is to buy a dictionary - runs with all OSes ;-) > Currently and for some time to come, it is the only way to get a decent > translation. Mechanical translations that are around are terrible. > -- > Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 > "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" > Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. -- Markus Lankeit UNIX Network Administrator McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. markus.lankeit@mccaw.com
From: valcom@cencom.net (Bryan E. Siverly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 00:19:19 GMT Organization: Valcom Learning Center Message-ID: <42ipft$9ko@data.interserv.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: > Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, > particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts > that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to > Win95. PC owners can't run the (toy-like) Mac OS, so that is moot. They won't run 0S/2 because they can't find a respectable number of native apps or any market momentum. That's the way the market tumbles, my friend. > But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are > stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy > it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the > market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately > it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. Sure, and if people were rational, we wouldn't have had 8 years of Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh would be nothing but a fat couch potato throwing popcorn at the television. It's a senseless (and sour grapes) argument, IMO. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Siverly Valcom Learning Center valcom@cencom.net 400 Iles Park Place (217) 528-0933 Springfield, IL 62718 -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: robocop@u.washington.edu (Jeff Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 17:31:25 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <robocop-0509951731250001@cs101-1.u.washington.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se>, Thomas Karlsen <sledge@algonet.se> wrote: > The most irretating thing is when Microsoft says "The world have been > waiting for a 32-bit operating system with true multitasking".. > > Makes me feel sick.. the *ALWAYS* think they are first to do everything. > Can't they stand that OS/2, Amiga, Mac was there *AGES* ago with all that > stuff.. The Amiga have had *SUPERIOR* multitasking and 32bit OS since the > first Amiga came in 1985.. OS/2 have been on the PC's in 5 years or so on > the *SAME* platform too. But Microsoft still lives in their own world.. > > Argh! That is what makes people ANGRY AS HELL!! > > /Thomas Bill Gates also thinks that Microsoft was the first company to commit to the graphical user interface. Marketing slogan for Win95 "...you can now run multiple programs at once." DUH!! You could do this in Win3.1, but most people must not have figured this out. ______________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Leigh homepage: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~robocop/ Junior E-mail: robocop@u.washington.edu University of Washington AOL: JeffL6998
From: jeremyk@ot.com.au (Jeremy Kelaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,aus.flame Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 22:16:55 GMT Organization: Open Technology Pty. Ltd. Sydney, Australia Message-ID: <42ilcr$o4j@hamlet.ot.com.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: >I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change >them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. >Check them out at my page at: > http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html >Graeme (graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au) Cool, so I can run it on my newton can I SPAM BOY !!! Jeremy Spam, Its Spiced Ham (tm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates) Subject: Need Suggestion on the Intel System Message-ID: <lorgbDEGI89.F9v@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:50:33 GMT Sender: lorgb@netcom15.netcom.com Hi, Can anyone suggest/advice for this PC needed to run NEXTSTEP? CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz (Globalyst system board) RAM: 64 MB Cache Memory: 1 MB ISA slots: 3 PCI slots: 2 BIOS: Phoenix, AT&T version 4.04, 1.01.00 SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/2940W SCSI CD-ROM Drive: NEC 4X Hard Drive: SCSI 2 Gig Segate Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Graphics Adaptor: Number Nine Imagine 128 (8M VRAM) Serial Ports: 2 UART 16450 Parallet Port: 1 Keyboard: 101 PS/2 Pointing Device: Logitech Lan Adaptor: Cogent EMaster+ PCI Sound Card: Sound Blaster 16 Monitor: NEC 6FG Also, What types of modems and SCSI-tape backups are compatible with this system? Thanks in advance for the info. nvp
From: demo@telalink.net (Demo User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 21:18:13 -0500 Organization: Telalink Corporation, Nashville, TN, USA Message-ID: <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. > > Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do > so much more work with their own superior OS. > > Methinks they protest too much. Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll understand! :) -- bskate@nashville.net "We live in exciting times." -- ancient Chinese saying
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 6 Sep 1995 02:35:03 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <42j1cn$50e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42d675$8gl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42hu84$mdg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <42hu84$mdg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, James Beauchamp <J-Beauchamp@uiuc.edu> wrote: > >There ought to be a better source. I read a review of various boards about >2 years ago, and the MediaVision boards were given a very low rating because >of their inferior signal-to-noise ratio (~65 dB). Turtle Beach's boards were >much better (75 dB) and Ariel's much better yet. Of course, the price goes up. >A better way to get around this problem is to use a board that has AES/EBU >in/out and rely on the recorder -- e.g., a DAT -- to supply the best possible >S/N. The latter two boards are supported by the MusicKit, but I don't know if >this includes sound file support. > I have a Audiotrix Pro sound card from Mediatrix on my PCI/ISA Pentium system. It uses the Microsoft Sound System driver in NEXTSTEP, and overall, sound works pretty good. The one snag is when playing back sound files in mulaw compressed format - there is an audible "pop" at the end of the sound (eg. Fiend.snd in Fiend.app). These sounds play fine when taken out of mulaw format with GISO.app. This board has gotten good reviews overall in DOS as well, and it supports MPU 401 General Midi, 16 bit Misrosoft Sound System, and 8 bit mono SoundBlaster compatibility. Overall in DOS/Windows, the MIDI sounds great, but a lot of software only works with it in SoundBlaster mode, which is 8 bit mono :-(. The popping sounds are also present in SoundBlaster mode in DOS. Has anybody used this board with MusicKit with the MIDI driver? Do other people with this board have the same experiences as me? Varun
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: quick and dirty way to get http's from Bookmark Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:10:56 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950906010649.3300A-100000@charisma> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII grep http ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html | tr '"' '\012' \ | tr '<' '\012' | tr '>' '\012' | grep http | open hey, I said it was quick and dirty, and it seems to be both. However, I am wondering if there is a cleaner way to do this.... no big deal, but I just like to do things effeciently.... (BTW in case it isn't obvious, the above is what I use to strip away everything but the actual http address in my bookmarks file) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 6 Sep 1995 07:03:50 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42jh4m$297@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42fahu$tta@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <42ftpg$97d@gate.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Frank M. Siegert (frank@this.net) wrote: : bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) wrote: : > In article <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel : > Habermann) writes: : > > The ProAudioSpectrum is a card by MediaVision (if I remember : ... : > On the sound file question, the last time I asked around, : > we were having troubles with 44KHz stereo playback. : No, I does work fine* doing 44 KHz on EISA. However I was never able to : do so on my older ISA board. It all depends on the environment... Um oh, I forgot to mention that I had to patch the driver to get it to playback correctly on ISA/PCI-Machines. Without the patch, it would break the sound and repeat the fragments several times. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you tell NeXT where the nameserver is? Date: 6 Sep 1995 07:05:01 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42jh6t$299@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu> <lc30-0509951621360001@128.253.203.97> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lewis Cheng (lc30@cornell.edu) wrote: : In article <42aqj9$93l@pith.uoregon.edu>, fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu : (Nick Fogelson) wrote: : > I finally got TransSYS PNI working on my P90 w/ NS/FIP, but now I don't know : > how to tell the OS where the nameserver is. As it runs now, I have to use the : > actual IP address to go anywhere, which is a real pain. : > : > I know there is an easy answer here, but I just don't know it. But I'm sure : > someone else here does. : > : > Thanks : > : > Nick Fogelson : Go into any text editor like Emacs or vi or even Edit and make a file : called resolve.conf and put in it the names of the nameserver followed by ^^^^^^^^^^^^ this sould read /etc/resolv.conf : their ip addresses, like: : blah.cc.univerity.edu 128.250.120.1 : O.K.? And save it on /etc/,... God I forgot....you can find exactly this : information in the NEXTSTEP System Administration and Network blah blah's : book from Addison Wesley. If this helped at all, I'm glad. -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: copy root from one hd to another... Date: 6 Sep 1995 07:14:39 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42jhov$29m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950905123506.4016C-100000@icarus.cc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul Rossman (prossm1@icarus.uic.edu) wrote: : Hi, : I'd like to switch hard drives (from a noisy fujitsu to a quite quantum) : and was wondering if it would be possible to just copy every thing from : old one to the new one. This question gets aked so often: Is the answer already in the FAQ? I suggest using dump/restore. First make sure you're running 3.3 or have the RestorePatch installed (available via NeXTanswers #1555). This is important. Then connect the new harddisk, boot the computer. Initialize the disk when asked. Disks larger than 2 GB may need special treatment. I skip creation of a disktab for now. Supposed everything went fine, you have your new harddisk up and running. Say it's mounted on /NewDisk su cd /NewDisk make sure pwd is /NewDisk ! dump 0f - / | restore rf - The last command copies your entire root disk on the new harddisk, preserving all permissions (if you're running 3.3 or have the restore patch installed!) then power down, remove your old boot disk or set it to another scsi-id. Make the scsi-id of the new drive to be 1 (or 0, if you want to leave the root disk installed/scsi-id unchanged). reboot : Are there any side effects (/etc/disktab, etc???) I should know of?? NeXTSTEP should be able to work with disks <= 2 GB without disktab. For larger disks it might be necessary to make a disktab. #include <legalese/standard-disclaimer.h> Good luck. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: steeve@stoner.eps.mcgill.ca (Steeve McCauley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 6 Sep 1995 12:04:03 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <42k2nj$rfg@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> Demo User (demo@telalink.net) wrote: > > Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. > > > > Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do > > so much more work with their own superior OS. > > > > Methinks they protest too much. > Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll > understand! :) I'll pass, thank you very much. -- steeve steeve@stoner.eps.mcgill.ca +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ISN'T IT funny how whenever we go to a county fair or a state fair, the first thing we do is see if they have some kind of pornography booth. -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Message-ID: <1995Sep6.003637.604@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <rfenney-050995131623@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:36:37 GMT > > NEXT IN LINE, #4 arrived a few days ago. It's worth subscribing too. > > How? > From the NEXT IN LINE masthead: ---------- NEXT IN LINE is published quarterly (4 issues per year) by NEXT IN LINE 4440 S. Maryland Parkway, Suite 208A Box #216 Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 Subscriptions are $24 per year to the US, $34 per year to Canada and $44 per year International. All funds in US Dollars. ---------- Publisher & Editor Nancy Vanderburg nancy@nil.com -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WTB: 3.5" external SCSI Floppy Drive Date: 6 Sep 1995 15:29:19 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <42keof$l1k@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Oh, the eternal quest for the 3.5" 2.88MB floppy drive!! In case you haven't guessed by the title of this article, I am currently seeking one. I have had it up to the ears with not being able to read 3.5" disks. If anyone out there has one, then please consider selling it to me. I would greatly appreciate it!! Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu NeXTSTEP the operating system of the future today. (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: goza@drax.JSC.NASA.GOV (Mike Goza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 6 Sep 1995 12:43:01 GMT Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX, USA Sender: goza@drax (Mike Goza) Distribution: world Message-ID: <42k50l$kud@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> Last time I checked this was a SGI newsgroup. What does Windoze and MacinFlop have to do with it. Can we put a stop to this stupid thread? Its wasting my bandwidth!
From: luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: a late suggestion for the next ver. of NS Date: 6 Sep 1995 11:06:28 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509061604.AA04479@charisma.princeton.edu> Menu item: Windows/Arrange Non-Miniatured In Front same as current Arrange in Front, except it leaves the miniaturized windows alone. just my thoughts... TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help: where are -lcurses & -ltermcap libs on NS 3.3 (BLACK)? Date: 6 Sep 1995 09:11:42 -0400 Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine Message-ID: <42k6me$d5s@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca> Keywords: curses, termcap A couple of months ago I upgraded my Turbo Cube to NS 3.3 from NS 3.0. Back in the 3.0 days I had a program that relied on the curses and termcap libraries. I just made a couple of changes to this program and the linker complains that it cann't find the curses and termcap libraries. I tried compiling the program without these libraries but the linker complains about a whole bunch of undefined symbols. Can anyone offer any help/suggestions. Rob Arrabito e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca phone: (416) 635-2033
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 6 Sep 1995 14:05:13 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <42k9qp$kv0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <42ad8k$5g1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42d675$8gl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42etgq$8pd@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <42hu84$mdg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <42j1cn$50e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: >I have a Audiotrix Pro sound card from Mediatrix on my PCI/ISA Pentium >system. It uses the Microsoft Sound System driver in NEXTSTEP, and overall, >sound works pretty good. It's surprising to me that a Microsoft product would work under NextStep. Since when has Microsoft written anything for NS? I would think the driver would either have to be supplied by the manufacturer (Audiotrix?) or by NeXT Inc. itself (and that's unlikely). Also, does 'sndplay' work with this board? What software could you use with the board under NeXTStep? Maybe I'm missing something. Jim Beauchamp
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: 6 Sep 1995 10:22:54 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> In article <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > I know it is still there,but where is NeXTSTEP stuff? ftp.dn.net changes >to Windows NT now,and I can only see mac and windows directory,where is >Peanut's mirror? you are right! but the windows directory is empty and the mac directory is almost empty. something must have gone wrong, like a crashed disk or something? -nick
From: daveacg@interlog.com (Dave Glue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 21:05:07 GMT Organization: InterLog Internet Services Message-ID: <42knsh$ejf@steel.interlog.com> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <42igbh$hrk@news1.deltanet.com> fuz@deltanet.com (Scott Ellsworth) wrote: >Win95 is a great improvement over Win3.1. It is still garbage, but it is a >lot closer to what it should be. Had they been able to make these kind of >interface changes over the fairly solid core of NT, and have it be compatible, >then it might well have moved out of the dreck category, but they could not, >at least not while missing the deadline by no more than a year and a half as >they did. Windows NT with the 95 interface has been in beta for a while now, and will be relased in early '96. And no, NT would never have been as compatible with existing DOS/Win16 apps, and wouldn't run them as well as 95 does simply due to it's architecture. It's too much of a jump, so Microsoft created 95. Simple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: What is SpeeDex ? References: <425iom$7h6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:40:17 GMT Message-ID: <1995Sep6.094017.8032@proximus.north.de> In article <425iom$7h6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> (gewil) wrote: gewil: i heard of a program called SpeeDex from IT, that seems to be gewil: some sort of personal information manager, capable to store gewil: and search full text data. Has anyone heard of this product, gewil: does it exist for white hardware and are there demo versions gewil: available on the net ? You already have that on your NEXTSTEP. Look at Librarian.app: (1) Make a folder where to store the information, say, ~/Library/MyNotes (2) Drag this new folder into a bookshelf-window (3) Select this folder in the librarian shelf (4) Choose Services in the inspector (Cmd-3) (5) Check the two boxes (in German: "Notieren in" and "Suchen in") That's it! Let's check for a real-life example: (a) Imagine you are in the file-viewer and find a document that's worth beeing noted. -> Just select it and click "Dienste->Librarian->Dokument notieren in MyNotes" (German) (b) Or how about in Mail.app -- you got this mail from me and find it is worth beeing stored. -> Just select the message and click "Dienste->Librarian->Mitteilung notieren in MyNotes" (German) (c) You are in your favourite Wordprocessor and find that your last sentence is so congenial that you should save it for later perusal? No problem. -> Just select the sentence and click "Dienste->Librarian->Auswahl notieren in MyNotes" (German) This will only save the selected area in a new document, called something like "Mi_Sep_06_1995-000.txt" (d) You say, you want to retrieve the information as well? No problem, you guessed it. Imagine you read this message and want to know if you already got some great information from me. -> So just select e.g. "gemoe" (or whatever you want to look for) and select "Dienste->Librarian->Suchen in MyNotes" (German) Of course, you can also search in Librarian directly as well. (6) Now you might ask: "What's about indexing?" Hey - didn't I tell you? No problem, what'd you expect? -> Just... No, no selection, this time. Sorry. Librarian automatically reindexes in the background every time you put some new information into MyNotes. So what'd ya say? - (only for our Suisse friends, not in the EU: "Aaaaba Vooarsicht -- isch kuuhl, maen.") Seems to me that many people who have such a powerful system like NEXTSTEP only know a few percent of its functionality and power. Yes, me included. ;-) Hey, NeXT! How about telling your potential customers more about "tips, tricks and functionality" Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: diff between '040 and turbo tty port Date: 6 Sep 1995 21:31:08 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <42l3us$75p@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Is there any difference in pin assignments between the tty (serial) port on a '040 Cube vs. the serial ports on a '040 Turbo Cube?? Thanks... please email me. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu NeXTSTEP the operating system of the future today. (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: nickh@iaehv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is the topic of this group? Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 09:45:05 GMT Organization: Internet Access Eindhoven, the Netherlands Message-ID: <42l4mm$pq7@iaehv.IAEhv.nl>
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 01:47:45 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42lknv$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <42igbh$hrk@news1.deltanet.com> fuz@deltanet.com (Scott Ellsworth) wrote: >Win95 is a great improvement over Win3.1. It is still garbage, but it is a >lot closer to what it should be. If this is what garbage smells like, then I'm for smelling garbage. :-)
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 01:50:45 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: >> Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. >> >> Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do >> so much more work with their own superior OS. >> >> Methinks they protest too much. >Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll >understand! :) Yeah, that about all it took. When I discovered that I couldn't run two apps the I needed at the same time. Because one needed Virtual memory or something, and the other refuse to run with it turned on. Fat lota-good a clipboard is in the case.
From: lingenjs@eworld.com (Joel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: copy root from one hd to another... Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 10:12:55 -0700 Organization: InteleNet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <lingenjs-0609951012550001@ip-205.162.83.24.superstore.com> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950905123506.4016C-100000@icarus.cc.uic.edu> > I'd like to switch hard drives (from a noisy fujitsu to a quite quantum) > and was wondering if it would be possible to just copy every thing from > old one to the new one. > > Are there any side effects (/etc/disktab, etc???) I should know of?? > > thanks in advance! YES, unequivocally yes! I have done this, and it was not a pretty picture. There is a bug in the dump command that makes this a nightmare. Among other things, after doing this it was only possible to log in as root. No other user accounts worked, and no new user accounts worked either. Root only! You can't do a strait cp either because the /dev directory in particular will never happen this way... The long and the short of this whole thing is: It is supposedly possible, but I haven't been able to do it successfully. What I did was installed the new drive from the 3.2 CD, and then copied all of my information and software etc. over from my old drive. I wish there was a better way, and if there is, let me know. Joel
From: egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 7 Sep 1995 04:56:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> In <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) writes: > >demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: > >>> Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. >>> >>> Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do >>> so much more work with their own superior OS. >>> >>> Methinks they protest too much. > >>Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll >>understand! :) > >Yeah, that about all it took. When I discovered that I >couldn't run two apps the I needed at the same time. >Because one needed Virtual memory or something, and >the other refuse to run with it turned on. >Fat lota-good a clipboard is in the case. > > > This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS?
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:24:28 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950906232128.6222A-100000@charisma> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> > Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > > I know it is still there,but where is NeXTSTEP stuff? ftp.dn.net changes > >to Windows NT now,and I can only see mac and windows directory,where is > >Peanut's mirror? Nick Kline wrote: > you are right! but the windows directory is empty and the mac directory > is almost empty. > > something must have gone wrong, like a crashed disk or something? I suspect something more malicious, like the installation program for WinNT deleted anything related to NS. But then again I might just be a little overly suspicious these days... or just cynical.... or just oh I don't know.... grumpy maybe. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: copy root from one hd to another... Date: 6 Sep 1995 22:40:32 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <42l810$bh8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950905123506.4016C-100000@icarus.cc.uic.edu> Paul Rossman <prossm1@icarus.uic.edu> wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to switch hard drives (from a noisy fujitsu to a quite > quantum) and was wondering if it would be possible to just copy > every thing from old one to the new one. > Are there any side effects (/etc/disktab, etc???) I should know > of?? A just-plain-copy won't work very well. You'd want to do something like a dump & restore. If you're running NeXTSTEP 3.3, the new 'ditto' command might be quite useful to you. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: nextflip DOS to UNIX easily Date: 7 Sep 1995 01:09:35 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509070605.AA06978@charisma.princeton.edu> ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/text/nextflip.N.bs.tar.gz I just noticed this (it's been around since 1992!) and wondered if anyone else besides me didn't know that this is a tool to switch DOS files to UNIX and vice-versa (gets rid of the ^M end of line that DOS uses) TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: GNU tar version 1.11.2 bug? Date: 7 Sep 1995 02:48:36 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509070721.AA07413@charisma.princeton.edu> When I try to use the '--verify' option I seem to get an error: 7388 Memory fault when I don't use it, it seems OK. Either way the archive gets created. Here's the script: #!/bin/sh time=`/usr/local/bin/date "%b-%M-%y"` /bin/mkdir /Backups/$time /usr/bin/gnutar --verify --verbose --create --dereference --file \ /Backups/$time/etc.tar /etc/ Any clues? Thanks! TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...."
From: polzerj@biw-ag.de (Martin Polzer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: [someDatasource fetchObjects] fetch in progress? Date: 7 Sep 1995 06:12:12 GMT Organization: BIW Systemhaus Message-ID: <42m2fs$s1p@next01.biw-ag.de> Keywords: EOF, fetch, DataSource Hi, I've got a problem with the "fetchObjects" method. Here's my code: - (void)didFetch { NSMutableDictionary *aKey; EOQualifier *qualifier; NSArray *objects; [super didFetch]; if([[self lieferadresse1]length]){ myDS = [[EODatabaseDataSource alloc] initWithModelName:@"osos" entityName:@"adr"]; aKey = [[[NSMutableDictionary alloc] initWithCapacity:10]autorelease]; [aKey setObject:[self lieferadresse1] forKey:@"adressnr"]; qualifier = [EOQualifier qualifierForPrimaryKey:(NSDictionary *)aKey entity:[myDS entity]]; [myDS setQualifier:qualifier]; objects = [myDS fetchObjects]; lieferadresse1Object = [objects objectAtIndex:0]; } } This Method is envoked inside an EnterpriseObject which itself has just been fetched. The "aKey" Dictionary is filled correctly. At the line objects = [myDS fetchObjects]; a Panel pops up saying "you tried to evaluate an expression while a fetch was in progress". I'm using the Informix5 Adaptor. Any ideas? desperating, Martin
From: Matthew Reichman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: 7 Sep 1995 08:26:34 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-i-05.usc.edu Message-ID: <42mabq$k1t@usc.edu> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950906232128.6222A-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> wrote: > I suspect something more malicious, like the installation program for WinNT deleted anything related to NS. Actually, peanuts is empty, too! For a few days now! -- Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need Suggestion on the Intel System Date: 4 Sep 1995 10:04:22 +0200 Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <42ebu6$98h@marsu.navigator.de> References: <lorgbDE99LI.5ox@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LOR/Geske Bock Associates (lorgb@netcom.com) wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest/advice for this PC needed > to run NEXTSTEP? > > CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz (Globalyst system board) > RAM: 64 MB > Cache Memory: 1 MB > ISA slots: 3 > PCI slots: 2 > BIOS: Phoenix, AT&T version 4.04, 1.01.00 > SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/2940W > SCSI CD-ROM Drive: NEC 4X > Hard Drive: SCSI 2 Gig Segate > Floppy Drive: 1.44MB > Graphics Adaptor: Number Nine Imagine 128 (8M VRAM) > Serial Ports: 2 UART 16450 > Parallet Port: 1 > Keyboard: 101 PS/2 > Pointing Device: Logitech > Lan Adaptor: Cogent EMaster+ PCI > Sound Card: Sound Blaster 16 > Monitor: NEC 6FG > How do the #9, the 2940 and the Cogent board fit into only 2 PCI slots? Is there any device already installed onboard? For backup purpose, I suggest you go for a fast DAT, e.g. WangDAT 3200 or 3400DX, or similar models from HP or Sony, capable of DDS-DC or DDS-2. -- who? // Dipl.-Phys. Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - IT Consulting & System administration mail? // mow@navigator.de
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstep training courses - recommendations? Date: 7 Sep 1995 09:51:25 GMT Organization: BT Labs Message-ID: <42mfat$aua@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have been struggling through the NeXTstep Programming Step One: Object Oriented Applications, Garfinkel and Mahoney as a first step to learning to program in Objective C. I don't have experience in C programming and so I find the material tough going and raising more questions than I can solve. I have used Pascal, BASIC (including MS Visual BASIC), Clipper (dBASE), TenCORE, Informix SQL and Brock (under UNIX). I also have no gauge to work out if my progress is slow or normal. Having picked up most lanugages from manuals within a month or six weeks I have already spent that amount of time on NeXTstep without achieving the 'same' level of understanding. There are two forms of training that I have heard about in the UK; a five day course and a 12 week training set up for 12 people, normally on site. Being a contractor I don't see myself being able to afford the 1000GBP per week for the training and the loss of income for three months, but the 5 day course is a possiblity. - Is this 5 days training worth while? - What preparation would be sensible? - Are there any other training materials that are useful? Thanks Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: mmccullo@usit.net (Michael McCulloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting screen depth to 24bit?? Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 05:24:04 GMT Organization: United States Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <42m025$4tm@news.usit.net> References: <41n8a9$22he@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) wrote: >Hi - > Am running into an odd problem on the NEXT workstation. When I save >a file as a .tiff (such as in IconBuilder) it works perfectly fine on my >system, but no other machine in the world seems to be able to read it. >I've tried xv and a number of DOS programs and translators, and they all >think the file is garbage. Photoshop 3.0 is able to read 12-bit color TIFF images (as well as other bit-depths) produced via NEXTSTEP. Michael McCulloch mmccullo@usit.net Oak Ridge, TN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <erik-0709950026350001@192.0.2.1> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Interlink Advertising References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:26:34 GMT In article <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: >So what your saying is that we happy few tens of millions are >just a bunch of stupid mind numb robots who need to >be told what operating system to run. That we can't make >logical decisions on our own, that we can't read, that >we can't see that os2 is not worth the trouble. >And no doubt you'd like to coddle and caress us into os2, by >saying; "We just want to help you". Frankly you sound like a >liberal democrat. And therfore I don't want anything to do >with you. > >So go warp somewhere else. as an individual who has used OS/2, Windoze, MS-DOS, UNIX, GS/OS, ProDOS, Apple DOS 3.3, and a couple others I'd rather not think about, I can definately say that Windoze belong with the group of "stuff I'd rather avoid because it's too stupid to live". OS/2 isn't the end-all/be-all of operating systems either, but I'd rather use it than anything from Microsoft. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@hypermall.com As a matter of fact, I DO speak for the company! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: fletcher@nova.umuc.edu (Charles Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mixing NT (shutter) with NEXTSTEP -- HD partitions Date: 7 Sep 1995 08:48:33 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <42mpn1$ibc@nova.umuc.edu> Keywords: NEXTSTEP, Windows NT, hard drives I am being forced into buying a PC and using NT for a project. If I am going to have a PC I would also want NEXTSTEP on it. Is there a way to configure/partition the drive to have both? Should I have a DOS partition? What order do they need to be in and what takes precedence at boot time? Should I have two drives and put an operating system on each? Has anyone done this and on what platform(s) (I am assuming I can find a hardware combination that works for both compatiability lists:-) I would greatly appreciate any details, details, details. Thanks in advance. Charlie -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 22:48:06 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-0609952248060001@0.0.0.0> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> <me-0509951308000001@b13.public.swarthmore.edu> @ In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" <BLAH BLAh BLAH> @ > >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately @ > >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. @ > @ > If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this @ > newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! Stephen, if you haven't checked the headers, this is being X-posted to a variety of places. In many of these places, readers/posters use OSs that many would consider better than Win95, such as MacOS, AmigaDOS, Solaris and OS2. -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 22:52:12 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-0609952252120001@0.0.0.0> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> In article <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: @ demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: @ @ >> Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. @ >> @ >> Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do @ >> so much more work with their own superior OS. @ >> @ >> Methinks they protest too much. @ @ >Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll @ >understand! :) @ @ Yeah, that about all it took. When I discovered that I @ couldn't run two apps the I needed at the same time. @ Because one needed Virtual memory or something, and @ the other refuse to run with it turned on. @ Fat lota-good a clipboard is in the case. OK, get this, I buy Office 4.2.1 CD-ROM for my new Power 100. The installation instructions tell me I should start up my Mac with "all extensions off. Start up the computer with the shift key pressed down." This of course disables the CD-ROM drive, since the CD-ROM driver is a system extension. What the Hell are they smoking at Microsoft? -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help, can't mount rootdev anymore! Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:10:42 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950907160258.15744A-100000@hphalle6a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello altogether, Due to a stupid bug in the Microsoft installation software, my seperate (although not mounted) NeXTSTEP root drive got formated for about 2-3%. After I broke the formatting procedure, I was still able to boot NEXTSTEP! YES!, but the system gets into panic if it tries to mount rootdev. So I picked up my boot disks, and CD-Rom, went into single user mode and tried everything I knew of. I tried fsck: Fail (no valid disk label) I tried disk for writing the label (fail, no valid disk label and I/O error) I tried disk to scan for superblocks (fail I/O error) But the data is still there! The system can read the configuration data etc.! Now here is my question: How can I access the hidden data on an NEXTSTEP drive without mounting it? It seems to me the last solution to retrieve the data from my disk is not mounting it. Any help would be very much appreciated, Many thanks in advance, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 09:19:11 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-0709950919110001@ppp-01-uf-cs1.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42ipft$9ko@data.interserv.net> In article <42ipft$9ko@data.interserv.net>, valcom@cencom.net wrote: @ jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: @ @ > Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, @ > particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts @ > that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to @ > Win95. @ @ PC owners can't run the (toy-like) Mac OS, so that is moot. They "Toy-like" in the sense that it is both easy and fun to use, right? And that it doesn't take a minor in computer science to get working properly, right? @ won't run 0S/2 because they can't find a respectable number of native @ apps or any market momentum. That's the way the market tumbles, my @ friend. Yeah, and people didn't wear seatbelts until there was a law requiring them to. Motorbikers oppose helmet laws. (Ms. Reno, are you still looking for a way to get Bill Gates???) What's your point? People are stupid! Look at the last election and Ross Perot's popularity. -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: jsart@ix.netcom.com (Joel Sartoris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 7 Sep 1995 15:32:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <42n39v$nra@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42ipft$9ko@data.interserv.net> <camin-0709950919110001@ppp-01-uf-cs1.nerdc.ufl.edu> jdoe@somewhere.edu (me) wrote: > > Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, > particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > experts that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating > systems to Win95. I certainly hope that it is a "consensus of most". Is it also deja vu all over again? --Joel Sartoris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: nextflip DOS to UNIX easily Message-ID: <1995Sep7.160711.45374@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 7 Sep 95 16:07:11 MET References: <9509070605.AA06978@charisma.princeton.edu> luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/text/nextflip.N.bs.tar.gz > I just noticed this (it's been around since 1992!) and wondered if anyone else besides me didn't know that this is a tool to switch DOS files to UNIX and vice-versa (gets rid of the ^M end of line that DOS uses) > TjL > - > Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k > MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell > "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." > "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." Nope, didn't know about it - but I know of Roestta (I'm not connected to these people in any way), which, for us non-anglosaxens, is of much more use as it will also properly convert any non ascii characters. Just getting ridof ^Ms is so trivial, that I do it with a user pipe from edit ... -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: 102513.2672@compuserv.com (KENDA Systems, Inc - VA Office) Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contracts,misc.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.mach Subject: NeXT Development Positions Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 15:44:23 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <42mlsc$sd8@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> KENDA Systems, Inc. KENDA Systems is a global company specializing in providing quality Information Technology resources to our clients worldwide. Originally established in New England, KENDA's operations has expended along the East Coast with business centers in Boston, New York City and Washington, DC. Since 1989, the Company opened the London office and acquired a major international competitor entrenching KENDA's international presence. ___________________________________________________________ We are currently seeking Programmer, Developers and Designers with the following skills: Operating Systems: NeXTStep, Mach Languages: Objective C Software Packages: Oracle Rate: Negotiable Length: Long Term Additional Skills: Object Oriented Programming We have a variety of positions which involve the development of systems all of which are based on NeXT Step. The skills listed above are all desired but not required, so any mix of these skills would be of interest. All positions require mid to senior level skill level; at least two years work experience. ___________________________________________________________ Please Respond to: Brian T. Crowley KENDA Systems, Inc. 1945 Old Gallows Road, Suite 308 Vienna, VA 22182 Telephone: 703.790.0500 Facsimile: 703.790.0234 Internet: brianc@kenda.com
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:22:13 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950907102017.7811C-100000@charisma> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950906232128.6222A-100000@charisma> <42mabq$k1t@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <42mabq$k1t@usc.edu> > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> wrote: > > I suspect something more malicious, like the installation program for > > WinNT deleted anything related to NS. > reichman@scf.usc.edu responded: > Actually, peanuts is empty, too! For a few days now! ?huh? That I didn't notice.... although logging in was really slow lately. Were you using an FTP application like GatorFTP? Sometimes it gets fooled into thinking that things are not there if it takes too long. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm only using PPP, so big = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: GIF image of mmalc's NS4.0alpha screenshot Message-ID: <199509071602.MAA15712@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 12:02:50 -0400 Hi. For those of you who were unable to view mmalc's authentic NS4.0alpha screenshot due to a broken TIFF viewer on a non-NEXTSTEP platform, I've made a GIF format image available for anonymous ftp at the following URL: ftp://ftp.cs.rochester.edu/pub/u/ringger/grab4.0.gif Please inform me of any problems with the ftp service. Thanks, --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger Internet: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922 University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: wilsonr@gdls.com (Richard D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 7 Sep 1995 18:33:40 GMT Organization: General Dynamics, Land Systems Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> >>no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS >>STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, >>and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. >>once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. >Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. >Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >just left a crap on os2 and ran away... Uhh-humm... Windoze? Warp? Gimme a break! Real programmers prefer real OS's (eg Linux / X). BTW, why is 'doze95 called 32 bit when it still has DOS crawling around in its guts? Actually, forget I asked. I don't want to know... --rwilson wilsonr@gdls.com
From: zelix@subzero.winternet.com (Peter Handel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 7 Sep 1995 19:23:46 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Message-ID: <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> In article <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com>, Jack Hudler <jack@itsnet.com> wrote: >demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: > >>> Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. >>> >>> Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do >>> so much more work with their own superior OS. > >>Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll >>understand! :) > >Yeah, that about all it took. When I discovered that I >couldn't run two apps the I needed at the same time. >Because one needed Virtual memory or something, and >the other refuse to run with it turned on. >Fat lota-good a clipboard is in the case. Just thought I'd add my two cents: I think both Windows (IBM) and the MacOS is cool, although they have two very different applications. I worked for a support center this summer, and we had a very hard time keeping up with all the questions/problems that Windows raised. I personally feel that the IBM is great for people who like to have more control over their computer and who like "messing" with computers. The Macintosh, on the other hand, is extremely user-friendly, very easy to maintain, and has excellent graphics. If our corporation consisted soley of Macintoshes, I would have been out of a job :) Every time a new hard drive/printer/CD-ROM/anything was attached, the autoexec.bat and config.sys had to be changed. The Mac, otoh, is very "Plug-and-play" oriented. I have found that the Apple IIGS is an excellent mixture of these two computers. It's not as difficult to maintain as the IBM's are, and is powerful enough for most everything I need to do here at college. The right computer for the job. -- ________None of my email may be reproduced w/o my written consent________ |Peter Handel (Zelix on irc #appleiigs) Student UNIX Systems Programmer| |handel@stolaf.edu http://www.stolaf.edu/people/handel Sysop:(507)646-2450| |___Whatdoesitprofitaman,togainafortune,andyetloseyoursoul?__JesusisLord!_|
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com.> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicago: OBJ C Developers wanted Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 14:53:01 PDT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.15642.810510896.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers Salary commenurate with experience, 40-90K Plus bonus. Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next development tools The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should have the following skills: 1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously 2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations 3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities Knowledge of one of the following: - Financial Derivatives Business - Currency Options Pricing - Risk Management - Interest Rate Derivatives Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc P-708.357.9400 F-708.357.9400
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: copy root from one hd to another... Date: 7 Sep 1995 13:55:22 -0700 Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego Message-ID: <42nm7q$f50@chiton.ucsd.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950905123506.4016C-100000@icarus.cc.uic.edu> <lingenjs-0609951012550001@ip-205.162.83.24.superstore.com> In article <lingenjs-0609951012550001@ip-205.162.83.24.superstore.com> lingenjs@eworld.com (Joel) writes: >> I'd like to switch hard drives (from a noisy fujitsu to a quite quantum) >> and was wondering if it would be possible to just copy every thing from >> old one to the new one. >> >> Are there any side effects (/etc/disktab, etc???) I should know of?? >> > >YES, unequivocally yes! > >I have done this, and it was not a pretty picture. There is a bug in the >dump command that makes this a nightmare. Among other things, after doing >this it was only possible to log in as root. No other user accounts >worked, and no new user accounts worked either. Root only! Looks like it is time for this reminder again: Restore was broken in NS3.2. Previous versions seem to be OK, and it was fixed again in NS3.3. The patch for NS3.2 restore can be found online at ftp.next.com, as: 1554_RestorePatch.ReadMe.compressed 1555_RestorePatch.pkg.compressed The last time I looked there, these files were in the directory /pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Patches/RestorePatch.29807.16 carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *** Sound on Intel *** Message-ID: <1995Sep7.201433.41059@ac.dal.ca> Date: 7 Sep 95 20:14:32 -0300 Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada To NeXTSTEP and sound users on Intel: ************************************* 1.Digital Recordings is looking for test sites for our audio / acoustical software for NeXTSTEP on Intel machines. 2.We are looking for feedback from Intel users on how our software is working. Your benefits will include new interesting software for audio and acoustics and ability to test and calibrate your sound system. 3.Software which we need feedback on is DFG (Digital Function Generator) and Digital Audiometer. We are looking forward to your response. Best regards, Marek Roland-Mieszkowski _| _| _| Marek Roland - Mieszkowski, M.Sc.,Ph.D. _| _| _| DIGITAL RECORDINGS - Advanced R & D _| _| _| 5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103 _| _| _| Halifax, Nova Scotia, B3H-1Y5, Canada _| _| _| Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622 .........:-) _| _| _| 0101Everything0is1Information1in0one0form1or0another01010110mrm01011 ******** Proud user of NeXT computer and NeXTSTEP software ********* ==================================================================== ="There are very few people in this world who ever ask the right = = questions of science,and they are the ones who effect its future = = most profoundly" Philip Anderson, Nobel Laureate, Princeton Univ = ==================================================================== P.S. Our software works also on NeXT, HP and Sun machines under NeXTSTEP. Please contact us if you would like to receive most recent and useful demos.
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on CNN's Moneyline demoing Web Objects tonight Date: 7 Sep 1995 23:31:42 GMT Organization: Viaduct, Inc. Message-ID: <42nvcu$6uc@news4.digex.net> References: <42nms8$6lf@digifix.digifix.com> Michael Duggan (mduggan@advis.com) wrote: # Don't miss Moneyline on CNN tonight at 4 p.m. & again at 8:30 p.m.(pacific # time) and 7 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.(eastern time). Steve will be interviewed # by Lou Dobbs and do the first ever DEMO on the show - showing WebObjects # live. Steve did a fine job of demoing the product, but got a little bit caught up in not talking about WebObjects. The anchor asked several questions to lead him into mentioning it, either to give him opportunity to do so or to taunt him because he had agreed not to. Either way, no mention of WebObjects was made, other than to say that NeXT was now producing software for the web. Chrysler got a great plug, however, as he was demoing their database. -- Eric A. Litman Internet Technology vox: 301.493.0220 elitman@nxstep.com and Marketing Consulting pag: 800.570.4400
From: lunacie@hooked.net (John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:05:58 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <42ng1k$omk@its.hooked.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: >> Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. >> >> Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do >> so much more work with their own superior OS. >> >> Methinks they protest too much. >Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll >understand! :) I have spent 30 minutes on a mac - waiiiiitttttiiiiiiinnnnnnggggg for it to finish something that takes a few minutes on an R4400 I2EX, or a P5/90 for that matter. You should spend 30 minutes on an SGI. Then again, I'm not planning on purchasing Win '95 either. jt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc Digital Animation & F/X Tel.: 415.896.1505 Fax.: 415.896.1603 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:33:11 GMT Organization: Viaduct, Inc. Message-ID: <42o307$6uc@news4.digex.net> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Jiunn-jye Huang (jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw) wrote: # I know it is still there,but where is NeXTSTEP stuff? ftp.dn.net changes # to Windows NT now,and I can only see mac and windows directory,where is # Peanut's mirror? The Peanuts mirror at dN will be coming back online very soon. I moved the archive over to NT so that I could array and stripe the drives across multiple SCSI cards. With over 35GB of storage space, there will be plenty of room to grow. I'll post when the archive is back online. -- Eric A. Litman Internet Technology vox: 301.493.0220 elitman@nxstep.com and Marketing Consulting pag: 800.570.4400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #4 Message-ID: <jpanicoDEK935.2yv@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <rfenney-050995131623@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <1995Sep6.003637.604@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:23:29 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com Is this a glossy mag, or does it look more like a zine put out by Harvard Literary Review? Leif Smith (leif@pattern.rmnug.org) wrote: : > > NEXT IN LINE, #4 arrived a few days ago. It's worth subscribing : too. : > : > How? : > : From the NEXT IN LINE masthead: : ---------- : NEXT IN LINE is published quarterly (4 issues per year) by : NEXT IN LINE : 4440 S. Maryland Parkway, Suite 208A : Box #216 : Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 : Subscriptions are $24 per year to the US, $34 per year to Canada : and $44 per year International. All funds in US Dollars. : ---------- : Publisher & Editor : Nancy Vanderburg : nancy@nil.com : -- : Leif Smith, Denver : leif@pattern.rmnug.org -- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:43:59 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o3kf$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> Erik Kloeppel (erik@hypermall.com) wrote: : no, you miss the point. We have time for this fun BECAUSE OUR OS IS : STABLE and dosn't fill our days with constant <REBOOT>, <CRASH>, : and <DRIVER UNKNOWN> type problems. We want to do something, we do it.. : once done, while we wait for Windoze users to catch up, we play. You know better than that, Erik. :) The Mac, stable? What was all that rebooting you were doing the other night, eh? *nudge* -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:43:08 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Graeme (bc320994@student.uq.edu.au) wrote: : I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change : them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. : Check them out at my page at: : http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html About as funny as being gored by a steer. Let's see how many outright fabrications and stretches of the truth we can come up with, hm? > Start making Billy Boy ruler of the world. Gates doesn't want to rule the world. He makes computer products. BTW, Graemy Grimeball, it's very unprofessional to "win" arguments by calling your opponent dimunitive names. > It's like Mac 87! No, you can do actually _do_ things with Win 95. In 1987, Macintoshes were about as useful as an American Express Gold Card - essentially a status symbol, but you don't actually _use_ them. Besides, the Mac _still_ doesn't multitask. Cooperative doesn't cut it. Sorry. > Start Crashing I've crashed Win 95 a few times. And I've crashed Top of the Line PowerMacs many times as well. Do you have a point? > Start looking like a loser! No thanks, you're doing a great job with that already. > Start catching up to a Mac II. As I remarked above, PC's were running businesses while Steve Jobs was "borrowing" technology from Xerox PARC. > Start Waiting Oh, like waiting while LaserWriter Utility takes over the entire machine to d/l a postscript file to a printer? Like waiting for a ZModem transfer because if you try to do anything else you end up losing too many packets? That kind of waiting? > Start wasting money. At $99, Win 95 is a good deal. Compared to the overpriced THOUSANDS that Mac people were raped for. Which, if you're going to buy a status symbol, is all well and good. Not to mention that only a handful of Macs have slots. Need more functionality? Buy a new CPU! Or buy a $300 SCSI->Ethernet converter. What a BARGAIN! Who needs slots anyway? > Start wasting time. Wasting time is buying a Mac to do X when a Mac can't do X because the software isn't available. Or waiting for a Mac to do any of a number of things (overpriced, underpowered. These words mean things). Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel processors, I'd be running _that_. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:48:24 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> me (jdoe@somewhere.edu) wrote: : Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, : particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts : that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to : Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are : stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy : it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the : market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately : it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. You state that "experts say Win95 sucks, but I have no experience with it". I suppose you believe the Pope when he says that contraception is evil. After all, the Pope is an expert. I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual work, with actual applications, some of which are not available on Macintosh. If your computer is a toy, your ridiculous statements are probably appropriate. BTW, way to use your news software to obscure your identity. You're a man who truly stands behind his opinions. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:50:18 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o40a$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> Greg Vaughn (G.Vaughn@ttu.edu) wrote: : The reason I, as a Mac user, dislikes Win95 (which I have used) is that : I'm tired of all the hype. Hype like Apple's "1984" commercial? Jesus-Friggin-Christ some people have short memories. Or perhaps you were still in diapers when that was aired. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:55:30 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o4a2$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42k2nj$rfg@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Steeve McCauley (steeve@stoner.eps.mcgill.ca) wrote: : Demo User (demo@telalink.net) wrote: : > > Tell you what, guy... you need to get a life real bad. : > > : > > Unbelievable what lengths some will go to when they supposedly can do : > > so much more work with their own superior OS. : > > : > > Methinks they protest too much. : > Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll : > understand! :) : I'll pass, thank you very much. I'm typing this on a Mac. However, I'd much rather be typing at home on my PC. I won't be satisfied with a PC/Mac operating system until Baz's First Principle of OS's is satisfied: it ain't a real OS if the computer crashes. (Hint to Mac people: Memory Protection. Don't you wish you had it? If you ran UNIX, you would.) -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:58:16 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <42o4f8$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <camin-0609952252120001@0.0.0.0> Chintan Amin (camin@grove.ufl.edu) wrote: : OK, get this, I buy Office 4.2.1 CD-ROM for my new Power 100. The : installation instructions tell me I should start up my Mac with "all : extensions off. Start up the computer with the shift key pressed down." : This of course disables the CD-ROM drive, since the CD-ROM driver is a : system extension. What the Hell are they smoking at Microsoft? You should be asking why Apple only supports Apple-Brand peripherals in the operating system. In this case, MacOS ONLY works with Apple-Brand CD-ROM drives (out of the box). I can't count how many CD drives Win '95 works with (out of the box). That device drivers are "extensions" shows part of the bulging seams of the Mac's OS architecture. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 01:01:27 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Distribution: world Message-ID: <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> Richard D. Wilson (wilsonr@gdls.com) wrote: : Uhh-humm... Windoze? Warp? Gimme a break! : Real programmers prefer real OS's (eg Linux / X). : BTW, why is 'doze95 called 32 bit when it still has DOS crawling around in its : guts? Actually, forget I asked. I don't want to know... That's because it doesn't still have "DOS crawling around in its guts". It can emulate DOS software much in the same way that Linux can. And there's a "DOS Mode" available that's _only_ DOS. Everything in Win '95 is 32-bit; my SCSI drivers, video drivers, etc etc everything. And the main reason I'm liking Win '95 more and more is that I can do a lot of the things I do under Linux- and not have to reboot to use a decent word processor (sorry, LaTeX doesn't count). -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 02:09:36 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42oadd$3q8@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com> <erik-0709950026350001@192.0.2.1> erik@hypermall.com (Erik Kloeppel) wrote: >In article <42gfvk$o7c@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: >>So what your saying is that we happy few tens of millions are >>just a bunch of stupid mind numb robots who need to >>be told what operating system to run. That we can't make >>logical decisions on our own, that we can't read, that >>we can't see that os2 is not worth the trouble. >>And no doubt you'd like to coddle and caress us into os2, by >>saying; "We just want to help you". Frankly you sound like a >>liberal democrat. And therfore I don't want anything to do >>with you. >> >>So go warp somewhere else. >as an individual who has used OS/2, Windoze, MS-DOS, UNIX, GS/OS, ProDOS, >Apple DOS 3.3, and a couple others I'd rather not think about, I can >definately say that Windoze belong with the group of "stuff I'd rather >avoid because it's too stupid to live". OS/2 isn't the end-all/be-all of >operating systems either, but I'd rather use it than anything from >Microsoft. Fine, If you like living with a dieing os.. fine.. have fun.. So like I said, go warp somewhere else!
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 02:10:30 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42oaf3$3q8@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> <me-0509951308000001@b13.public.swarthmore.edu> <camin-0609952248060001@0.0.0.0> camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) wrote: >@ In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" ><BLAH BLAh BLAH> >@ > >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >@ > >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. >@ > >@ > If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this >@ > newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! > Stephen, if you haven't checked the headers, this is being X-posted to >a variety of places. In many of these places, readers/posters use OSs >that many would consider better than Win95, such as MacOS, AmigaDOS, >Solaris and OS2. >-- >Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 >University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 >University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 >This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 02:13:01 GMT Organization: Internet Technology Systems, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <42oajq$3q8@itchy.itsnet.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: >> >> >This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? > Well said.
From: valcom@cencom.net (Bryan E. Siverly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 02:50:21 GMT Organization: Valcom Learning Center Message-ID: <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> demo@telalink.net (Demo User) wrote: > Nope. You just need to spend about 30 minutes on a Mac... then you'll > understand! :) Thirty minutes on a Mac will make me understand what? Understand that I've wasted my money on dead-end hardware? Understand that I have to wait for the newest versions of software for my OS? Understand that I'll have to live even longer with cooperative multitasking and overpriced hardware and upgrades? To be truthful, I have one on my desk. So, I've used it for much more than 30 minutes. It does, however, make a terrific paperweight. <g> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Siverly Valcom Learning Center valcom@cencom.net 400 Iles Park Place (217) 528-0933 Springfield, IL 62718 -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: pstemari@erinet.com (Paul J. Ste. Marie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: ATI Mach 64 PCI video driver reports unknown RAMDAC (repost) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 03:12:47 GMT Organization: EriNet Online 513 436-9915 Message-ID: <42ocan$2mi@eri1.erinet.com> (Reposted from comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.soft-sys.nextstep, comp.sys.next.sysadmin, & comp.sys.next.bugs) I've got a problem with Nextstep 3.3 and an ATI Mach 64 PCI card. It's giving a message along the lines of "ATIMach64.../unknown (0x2) RAMDAC/..." and booting up in VGA mode. The message is not reproduced in the log (grr). The driver is the most recent one downloaded from NeXT. Any suggestions? The driver is set for 1024x768. The system setup is as follows: NextStep 3.3 Pentium 90 Neptune chipset MB ATI Mach 64 PCI w 2MB DRAM Adaptec 2940W (Fast Wide SCSI) 16MB RAM 1G Fujitsu SCSI (1 dos partition WFWG 3.1, 1 non-dos with Next) 2G Seagate Barracuda ( 1 partition DOS, 1 partition unformatted) SoundBlaster AWE-32 --Paul J. Ste. Marie, pstemari@well.sf.ca.us, pstemari@erinet.com Live in Ohio? Help fight the Exon Amendment. See http://www.erinet.com/pstemari/vtwcdaoh.html for details.
From: trade@magna.com.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 03:22:27 GMT Organization: Borderless World, Sydney Message-ID: <42octj$se5@kettle.magna.com.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42hjmb$qql@gti.gti.net> In <42hjmb$qql@gti.gti.net>, broidoj@gti.net (Jeffrey R. Broido) writes: >Hmmm. So, Graeme says that Window 95 is equivalent to Mac 87, eh, what? >I suggest that he compare the two operating systems side-by-side. He >should compare the following: > >1) Attractiveness and sophistication of the user interface. Thats a matter of taste >2) Ergonomics provided by the right mouse button (what right mouse >button?) IE. more complex than the mac for new users >3) The latest Mac OS uses cooperative multitasking just as Windows 3.1 >did. Windows 95 uses mainframe-style preemptive multitasking for its >native applications just as NT and OS/2 do. Incorrect - Windows95 uses Preemptive Multitasking when NO 16 bit applications are running - Otherwise it gets stopped by Win16Mux (the Coopperative Stuffup) >4) The latest Mac OS has a single message thread while Windows 95 has >multiple threads. With the Mac, if an application hangs while >responding to a message, the whole system hangs. > >Yes, indeed, MS is now claiming that Windows 95 is document centric just >as the Mac is, not that I see much difference in this area, and one can >now plant items on the desktop, just as one can with the Mac. The >shell, indeed, does look and work more like the Mac shell. But there's >a lot more to an OS than its shell. On Win95 the shell can be tricked (by moving a file or renaming it using a command line) >As for the stability issue, I've found Windows 95 to be very stable, >indeed, at least as stable as my friends' Macs if not somewhat moreso. >They're both stable. > >The big difference is that there's lots more software and hardware >available for this platform than for the Mac. Don't get me wrong, mate. >I don't despise the Mac. I don't feel threatened by the Mac. I just >think one should get one's facts straight. --- Thomas Dyer trade@magna.com.au TDiS +61 2 565 1164 Windows95 - At least it has an expiry date! OS/2 ALL THE WAY!
From: Steve Childress <stevec@rain.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 05:12:32 GMT Organization: Self Message-ID: <42ojc0$hcs@news.rain.org> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit REAL PROGRAMMERS DO IT WITH SWITCHES AND LIGHTS.
From: luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: bringing news groups to my NeXT Date: 8 Sep 1995 02:34:08 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509080732.AA04136@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> I'm wanting to take all the comp.sys.next.* newsgroup posts and download them to my machine so I can read them off-line (yes I know there are email digests but there are a few other groups I'd like to get also). I'd be interested in hearing how others are doing this (someone out there must be doing this...). I have 'slurp' on my machine which is supposed to do this but I can't get the syntax worked out and email to the author goes unanswered. Thanks! TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm only using PPP, so big = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: David Klann <dklann@heurikon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cheapskate Seeks CD-ROM Driver Date: 7 Sep 1995 16:03:04 GMT Organization: Heurikon Corporation Message-ID: <42n53o$btv@badger.heurikon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a copy of NEXTSTEP for Intel (System and Developer). I thought *maybe* there would be a chance that it would include a driver for my Sony CDU33A CD-ROM drive, but no such luck. I've scoured the FTP archives and the FAQ with no indications of support for this device. This is my last resort before I put the software up for sale - I can't afford a hardware upgrade at the moment... :-( Does anyone know of the existance of a driver for this device? Thanks for your consideration. David Klann Heurikon Corporation Madison WI
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Driving printer on Parallel Port Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:14:57 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <42o1u1$11f5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello all! I've been experincing some troubles with my parallel port. I've been trying to get my DeskJet 500 to work under NS. To date: 1) The system works flawlessly under Windows NT. Therefore, I do not have a HW problem. 2) I installed the demo of GScorp's eXTRAPRINT. 3) I installed NeXT's 3.3 Parallel Port driver. I configured the printer.... and it doesn't work. Printing a file makes the printer load a sheet of paper and that is about it. So I installed the free Parallel port replacement driver. Things work much better now. I can print about 1 page per 2 hours. Yep... it takes about 2 hours to print out one page. The page looks nice though! ;) My HW setup has the parallel port enabled at IRQ 7 and address 0x378. The parallel port driver is installed with the same settings. However, I'm getting this terrible throughput! The printer DIP switches are set according to the manual (and it works great under NT :{). Any ideas why I'm getting such poor performance? Any tips sincerely appreciated! TIA, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: allanmac@sdt.com (Allan S. MacKinnon, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on CNN's Moneyline demoing Web Objects tonight Date: 8 Sep 1995 14:44:19 GMT Organization: SABRE Decision Technologies Message-ID: <42pks3$ei7@aadt.sdt.com> References: <42nms8$6lf@digifix.digifix.com> <42nvcu$6uc@news4.digex.net> I think he did OK considering how incredibly short of an interview it was. Does anyone know why CNN had this interview on MoneyLine? The interviewer opened and closed the interview w/comments about NeXT that probably made some NeXT'ers wince. I think the intro was something like: "After struggling for ... NeXT is now ...." The closing statement was something like: "Steve Jobs, formerly of Apple, and now at NeXT" as if he just joined the company last week or something. :) I'm sure someone out there will post the entire transcript. :) ASM ------------------------------------------------------------------ Allan S. MacKinnon, Jr. SABRE Decision Technologies allanmac@sdt.com PO Box 619616, MD 4432 allan_mackinnon@attpls.net Dallas/Ft.Worth Airport, TX 75261-9616 Tel: (817) 963-1679 Fax: (817) 967-9763 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Definitions of Operations Research: ---------- ----------- 1. Research into operations. ---------- ----------- 2. Quantitative common sense. ---------- ----------- 3. The art of giving bad answers to which ---------- ----------- otherwise worse answers are given. ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: et@sloth.ugcs.caltech.edu (Ernest S. Tomlinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc Date: 8 Sep 1995 15:27:43 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <42pndf$9jq@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> <42o40a$9qt@news-2.csn.net> bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) writes: >Greg Vaughn (G.Vaughn@ttu.edu) wrote: >: The reason I, as a Mac user, dislikes Win95 (which I have used) is that >: I'm tired of all the hype. > Hype like Apple's "1984" commercial? Jesus-Friggin-Christ some >people have short memories. Or perhaps you were still in diapers >when that was aired. Christ! All the PC bigots (and Mac bigots) are coming out of the woodwork in this thread-that-will-never-die. Insults, blanket generalizations, ad-hominems...it's enough to make a grown man cry. The "1984" commercial aired exactly once, by the way. Lighten up! "Badges? We don't need no steenking badges!" Followups set. -et -- Ernest S. Tomlinson, et@ugcs.caltech.edu and masc1345@rohan.sdsu.edu "Are we not der supermen? Aryan-pure, supermen?" "Ja, we ist der supermen. Super-duper-supermen!"
From: jordan@mindspring.com (Jordan Davies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New 70NS memory $34 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:21:41 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <jordan.59.282388F8@mindspring.com> ICON Inc and Marketsales present: Memory NEW 70NS Lifetime warranty. All major brand manufacturers. Most any computer. PCs, Sun, Silicon Graphics, etc... $34 per megabyte. We should be able to beat any price you are now getting. Any quantity. e-mail us at jordan@mindspring.com
From: paul@washburn.Princeton.EDU (Paul Lansky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 8 Sep 1995 14:53:17 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <42plct$ses@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <42fahu$tta@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <42ftpg$97d@gate.seicom.net> <42jh4m$297@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> I think we have solved the play problem on Intel, Sparc, etc. The trick is to bypass the SoundKit approach, and use large unix reads feeding the NXSoundStream object. This minimizes (or maximizes) the read/seek ratio so that you get maximum advantage of the generally high speed of the disks and you also have control over your own internal buffering. We (meaning myself and Peter Velikonja) have worked on RT as well and will post that soon. For the meantime grab Pplay.app from the Princeton Sound Kitchen, (http://www.music.princeton.edu/PSK) or ftp to lucille.princeton.edu (pub/music). On both Sparc and Intel platforms, with reasonably fast disks (3 mbyte per second) we are able to play 6 or 7 44k stereo files at one time with no glitches. We tested long soundfiles as well (20 min) and are able to play several of those with no glitches as well. NeXT claims that the sound driver will be fixed in the next release. We shall see.. paul lansky paul@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: Dirk Schwarzhans Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on CNN's Moneyline demoing Web Objects tonight Date: 8 Sep 1995 16:26:47 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <42pqs7$39m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <42pks3$ei7@aadt.sdt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <42pks3$ei7@aadt.sdt.com> allanmac@sdt.com (Allan S. MacKinnon, Jr.) writes: .. > I'm sure someone out there will post the entire transcript. :) > > ASM > Not necessary. Just try http://www.cnn.com/BIZ/Moneyline/steve_jobs/index.html http://www.cnn.com/BIZ/index.html Dirk Schwarzhans
From: mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 16:31:58 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <mjoseph1-0809951232000001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ng1k$omk@its.hooked.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have spent 30 minutes on a mac - waiiiiitttttiiiiiiinnnnnnggggg for > it to finish something that takes a few minutes on an R4400 I2EX, or a > P5/90 for that matter. I assume that the "thing" you are waiting for is crashing. Yes, I agree, the P5/90 is indeed far faster at doing that than the Mac. But if you are actually waiting for a USEFUL TASK to be completed then, last I checked, the people in PC Week (which is biased towards PC's!) said that the 132 Mhz 604 based PowerMac "left the 133 Mhz Pentium in the dust." And most of us cannot afford SGI's, nor is there a large base of commercial software available for normal computer users to buy for them. Otherwise I agree that they are good machines. The Wintels, however, are simply poor performers period.
From: mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 16:45:43 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <mjoseph1-0809951245450001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You state that "experts say Win95 sucks, but I have no experience with > it". I suppose you believe the Pope when he says that contraception > is evil. After all, the Pope is an expert. You are confusing moral judgements with qualitative judgements. If you had come to Swarthmore you would have had the insight to realize this. It certainly is possible to make moral judgements, but not in the way that you imply, and the Pope is not an expert in this. > I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier > to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. > And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual > work, with actual applications, some of which are not available > on Macintosh. If your computer is a toy, your ridiculous statements > are probably appropriate. In some cases, it is possible that a PC could have advantages over a Mac. I do not deny that. As an aggregate whole though, more people would find Macs superior to PC's than vice versa, but because of the peculiarities of the market of OS's which tend to lead to a monopolistic situation, and because of Microsloth's concentration on marketing (instead of quality) they have managed to capture a majority of the market share with an inferior product. But yes, I would also agree that Win95 is probably a step up from Win3.1. After all, it does it's best (not good enough, in my opinion) to copy the Mac. ;) > BTW, way to use your news software to obscure your identity. You're > a man who truly stands behind his opinions. Sorry, I haven't gotten my computer yet due to PowerMac shipping delays (coming back to my point that Apple designs good products but has terrible marketing/supply strategies) so I have to use lab computers. Hence my ID changes when I don't remember to change personal preferences in Newswatcher.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:26:06 GMT In article <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, Jawaid Bazyar <bazyar@hypermall.com> wrote: >Richard D. Wilson (wilsonr@gdls.com) wrote: > >: Uhh-humm... Windoze? Warp? Gimme a break! > >: Real programmers prefer real OS's (eg Linux / X). >: BTW, why is 'doze95 called 32 bit when it still has DOS crawling around in its >: guts? Actually, forget I asked. I don't want to know... > > That's because it doesn't still have "DOS crawling around in its guts". >It can emulate DOS software much in the same way that Linux can. >And there's a "DOS Mode" available that's _only_ DOS. Everything >in Win '95 is 32-bit; my SCSI drivers, video drivers, etc etc everything. >And the main reason I'm liking Win '95 more and more is that I can >do a lot of the things I do under Linux- and not have to reboot >to use a decent word processor (sorry, LaTeX doesn't count). > >-- > Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask > Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! > bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) > --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273 You know nothing. 1)Win95 still has Dos 7 as it's underlying infrastructure. It has some 32-bit disk access, but so does sin WfWG 3.11) 2) There is a WHOLE lot of 16-bit code on Win95. The whole damned USER interface is 16-bit for christ sakes!!! Even saying that, I think I like Win95. technically speaking, it's WAY behind OS/2. But the interface is pretty nice, and little things (like 3rd parties actually using the RMB functionality, and screen res. changing on the fly) are nice too. The main reason to support Win 95? It's a means to an end to get to WinNT 2 years from now. and Win NT IS technically superior to OS/2, and scaleable to boot :-)
From: mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 16:50:55 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Thirty minutes on a Mac will make me understand what? Understand that > I've wasted my money on dead-end hardware? This is an INCREDIBLE statement! Let me think...last I checked the Pentium, which performs very poorly against today's RISC processors (i.e. PPC, MIPS, Alpha, etc.) had absolutely no way of upgrading to a P6 since they use different pin designs. And last I checked the P6 ran 16 apps SLOWER than the P5 and and 32 bit apps only marginally faster while containing 5 to 6 million transistors and costing a small fortune. As for the P7, Intel doesn't even seem to know what they want it to do (run slower than the P6, perhaps?) let alone how it's going to do it. So who has the dead-end hardware?
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: bringing news groups to my NeXT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:13:26 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1995Sep8.171326.20613@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <9509080732.AA04136@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <9509080732.AA04136@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > I'm wanting to take all the comp.sys.next.* newsgroup posts and > download them to my machine so I can read them off-line (yes I know > there are email digests but there are a few other groups I'd like to > get also). > > I'd be interested in hearing how others are doing this (someone out > there must be doing this...). I have 'slurp' on my machine which > is supposed to do this but I can't get the syntax worked out and > email to the author goes unanswered. Using slurp, with a news machine aliased to news: /usr/local/bin/slurp news Configuration files (for cnews, in /usr/local/news/lib): slurp.news: 950908 163802 (or whatever time you want to collect news starting from) slurp.sys: news:comp.sys.next*,biz.next.newprod,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,\ news.announce*,news.newusers*,news.answers* You can do things with the options to news, but this will give you a running news feed. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sound File Support on Non-Black NextStep Machines? Date: 8 Sep 1995 13:49:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <42pvmh$f17@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <42k9qp$kv0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <42k9qp$kv0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: >It's surprising to me that a Microsoft product would work under NextStep. >Since when has Microsoft written anything for NS? I would think the driver >would either have to be supplied by the manufacturer (Audiotrix?) or by >NeXT Inc. Microsoft wanted the Microsoft Sound System to be an industry standard, so they had to publish the hardware specifications. Given that information, writing a driver is relatively easy. NeXT supplies the device driver for these cards. The higher level SoundKit and sound utilities all use a common API to the sound driver. The driver hides (most) of the differences between sound cards. Mike Paquette
From: jsart@ix.netcom.com (Joel Sartoris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 18:30:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <42q247$t6u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> In <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) writes: >[snip] >Even saying that, I think I like Win95. technically speaking, it's WAY >behind OS/2. But the interface is pretty nice, and little things (like >3rd parties actually using the RMB functionality, and screen res. >changing on the fly) are nice too. The main reason to support Win 95? >It's a means to an end to get to WinNT 2 years from now. and Win NT IS >technically superior to OS/2, and scaleable to boot :-) Actually, I think you have it backwards. Win95 will be the means that *ends* WinNT. --Joel Sartoris
From: pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil (Lou Pecora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 14:24:15 -0500 Organization: Naval Research Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <pecora-0809951424150001@esp225.nrl.navy.mil> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> In article <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) wrote: > Richard D. Wilson (wilsonr@gdls.com) wrote: > > : Uhh-humm... Windoze? Warp? Gimme a break! > > : Real programmers prefer real OS's (eg Linux / X). > : BTW, why is 'doze95 called 32 bit when it still has DOS crawling around in its > : guts? Actually, forget I asked. I don't want to know... > > That's because it doesn't still have "DOS crawling around in its guts". > It can emulate DOS software much in the same way that Linux can. > And there's a "DOS Mode" available that's _only_ DOS. Everything > in Win '95 is 32-bit; my SCSI drivers, video drivers, etc etc everything. > And the main reason I'm liking Win '95 more and more is that I can > do a lot of the things I do under Linux- and not have to reboot > to use a decent word processor (sorry, LaTeX doesn't count). I believe you're wrong Mr.Bazyar. Check out recent issues of BYTE and Info World. I believe both confirmed the existence of 16 bit code in W95. Anyone comment on this? BTW. There is no need to be so rude and snotty in your replies. Whatever else you think of the people and their computers in all these groups they are for the most part as intelligent as you or I. If you want to argue, fine. Just argue on the merits and facts. Not with crude remarks. Thanks and have a nice day. -- Lou Pecora -- Lou Pecora code 6341 Naval Research Lab Washington DC 20375 USA pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil /* My views are not those of the U.S. Navy. If you want their views, you have to go to war. */
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 8 Sep 1995 14:47:56 -0400 Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina Message-ID: <dcl.810585858@mercury> I just posted to comp.soft-sys.nextstep, but that seems to be a closed group... Anyway, I've long had an 030 Cube as my sole machine and I've been considering upgrading to a 486 or Pentium (ugh - Intel again). I've also long laughed at NextStep for Intel - I never thought they'd be able to get the beauty of the NeXT onto that "other" platform. It seems they have, however. So now I'm considering buying my Intel machine not only to run Linux, but also NextStep for Intel. Part of the motivation is that I love my NeXT. I don't want to lose its functionality or its clean, beautiful interface. I don't want to lose the apps I've grown accustomed to. What should I look for when considering hardware purchases to run both Linux and NextStep? It's easy to find hardware that will run Linux, but is it so easy for NextStep? Will I have trouble with an EIDE drive and no sound card? Any tips and advice are welcome and requested. Thank you. Daniel -- Daniel C. L'Hommedieu Interpath Technical Support dcl@interpath.net 800-890-6305 / 919-890-6305 WOTD: interpolate For account info, mail to: http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ info@interpath.net
Date: 8 Sep 1995 15:10:18 GMT From: jordan@mindspring.com (Jordan Davies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.jordan.59.282388F8@mindspring.com> Control: cancel <jordan.59.282388F8@mindspring.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <jordan.59.282388F8@mindspring.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950908.04 for further details
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on CNN's Moneyline demoing Web Objects tonight Date: 8 Sep 1995 19:45:49 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <42q6hd$gfd@digifix.digifix.com> References: <42nms8$6lf@digifix.digifix.com> <42nvcu$6uc@news4.digex.net> elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) wrote: > Michael Duggan (mduggan@advis.com) wrote: > # Don't miss Moneyline on CNN tonight at 4 p.m. & again at 8:30 p.m.(pacific > # time) and 7 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.(eastern time). Steve will be interviewed > # by Lou Dobbs and do the first ever DEMO on the show - showing WebObjects > # live. > Steve did a fine job of demoing the product, but got a little bit caught > up in not talking about WebObjects. The anchor asked several questions > to lead him into mentioning it, either to give him opportunity to do so > or to taunt him because he had agreed not to. Either way, no mention of > WebObjects was made, other than to say that NeXT was now producing > software for the web. I think things got cut short because of that breaking story about Senator Packwood resigning... > Chrysler got a great plug, however, as he was demoing their database.
From: valcom@cencom.net (Bryan E. Siverly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 23:22:48 GMT Organization: Valcom Learning Center Message-ID: <42qja1$fka@data.interserv.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) wrote: > So who has the dead-end hardware? You do, bud. Wake up and smell the coffee. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Siverly Valcom Learning Center valcom@cencom.net 400 Iles Park Place (217) 528-0933 Springfield, IL 62718 -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 20:24:50 -0400 Organization: Division of Academic Computing, Northeastern University, Boston, MA. USA Message-ID: <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> In article <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, Jawaid Bazyar <bazyar@hypermall.com> wrote: ]> Start wasting money. ] ] At $99, Win 95 is a good deal. Compared to the overpriced THOUSANDS ]that Mac people were raped for. Which, if you're going to buy a status ]symbol, is all well and good. ] ] Not to mention that only a handful of Macs have slots. Need more ]functionality? Buy a new CPU! Or buy a $300 SCSI->Ethernet converter. ]What a BARGAIN! Who needs slots anyway? I think Jawaid Bazyar should learn something about Macintosh systems, his arguments only reveal his ignorance. Not only macs come with expansion slots, they also have SCSI and Ethernet on motherboard. ] ]> Start wasting time. ] ] Wasting time is buying a Mac to do X when a Mac can't do X because ]the software isn't available. There are at least two programs on the market which let one use X on the mac. ] Or waiting for a Mac to do any of a number ]of things (overpriced, underpowered. These words mean things). Independent benchmarks show Macs to be faster then Intel machines. ]Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel ]processors, I'd be running _that_. Intel CISC architecture is the past of the computing. All PowerMacs are based on RISC CPU chip.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: NeXTanswers on CD-ROM? Message-ID: <199509090117.VAA18299@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 21:17:39 -0400 Hi. I've read that the Peanuts Archive CD-ROM set contains the full set of NeXTanswers up to the point in time when the disk were mastered. Do any of the other collection CD-ROMs contain NeXTanswers? Thanks, --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger Internet: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922 University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: wkwong@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wing Kai Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Remote exec Date: 8 Sep 1995 19:36:48 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <42quk0$6ng@elaine30.Stanford.EDU> Question: How can I run NeXT applications or other x-window apps like gnu-emacs remotely from a x-window terminal like NCD? Thanks.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: File Viewer Resizing Question Date: 9 Sep 1995 04:05:24 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <42r3q4$ijb@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Is there a way to resize the File Viewer without it moving all the shelf icons around? I know this would be considered a 'feature', but I organize shelf as: [ my house ] [ often accessed folders under house ] [ root dir ] [ often accessed folders in root dir ] [ my 2nd disk ] [ often accessed folders in second disk ] so if I resize the File Viewer, it goes all askew. Any way around this? (yeah I know, keep the file viewer the same size) thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm using PPP, so big email = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: weiyao@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au Subject: web server.. Message-ID: <DEMnAq.5y9@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:25:38 GMT Organization: Global Infolinks Internet Server, Ipswich Qld Australia hi.. i like to know, can we run our web server on NeXTSTEP 'education version' for commercial use? thanks!!
From: luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: disabling power off key Date: 9 Sep 1995 02:43:23 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509090741.AA08025@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> I've seen this talked about dozens of times, but can't find the answer anywhere. I've got the 'loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES' but when I hit the power key (when logged in) it sill comes up with that annoying little panel asking me if I want to power the computer off. Is there a way to entirely disable the power off key (well, I still want to be able to use it in the ROM monitor, as well as in the little panel which comes up with command~ but other than that I want it stopped..) thanks! TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm using PPP, so big email = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: paul@serena.iaehv.nl (Paul Kolenbrander) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <paul.2lgy@serena.iaehv.nl> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 01:14:28 +0100 Organization: PKS MultiMedia Consulting, your One-Stop WWW shop. In article <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) writes: > > > Thirty minutes on a Mac will make me understand what? Understand that > > I've wasted my money on dead-end hardware? > > This is an INCREDIBLE statement! Let me think...last I checked the > Pentium, which performs very poorly against today's RISC processors (i.e. > PPC, MIPS, Alpha, etc.) had absolutely no way of upgrading to a P6 since > they use different pin designs. And last I checked the P6 ran 16 apps > SLOWER than the P5 and and 32 bit apps only marginally faster while > containing 5 to 6 million transistors and costing a small fortune. As for > the P7, Intel doesn't even seem to know what they want it to do (run > slower than the P6, perhaps?) let alone how it's going to do it. So who > has the dead-end hardware? I tend to agree here. I have 2 Amiga's and a 486DX-2 sitting on my desk. I just installed a $40 software package on my biggest Amiga and it is now a Mac. Running the latest software at speeds comparable to Mac's of equal configuration. And that Mac is nice. Ok, not as nice as AmigaDOS, but it is nicer than OS/2 and a lot nicer as Windows'95. And by far not as bloated as these 2 PC OS. Face it guys, PC's, although being market leader, suffer quite a lot from their hardware architecture. And the plethora of 3rd party cards (none of them really standard and most needing special drivers) do not help much here either. OK, PCI is a good start, but djeez, I've been having PCI like features and Windows'95 like Plug'n'Play features in my Amiga's since '85. Installing a new card. Just plug it in and the Amiga OS will do the rest. Easy as pie. My next system? Most likely a PowerPC type of machine... Now all you Win'95 advocates. Before ya'll blow yer top again, have a look at teh distribution. The non Win'95 groups outnumber the Win'95 groups by about 4 to 1. So either limit the # of newsgroups or end this thread. --__ /_/ |/ <A HREF="mailto:paul@serena.iaehv.nl">E-mail.</A> /aul |\olenbrander <A HREF="http://www.iaehv.nl/users/paul/">Home.</A> -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
From: ems@its.com (Ted Shelton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is SpeeDex ? Date: 9 Sep 1995 17:39:25 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <42sjgd$8hc@news.its.com> References: <1995Sep6.094017.8032@proximus.north.de> In article <1995Sep6.094017.8032@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) writes: > In article <425iom$7h6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, > <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> (gewil) wrote: > gewil: i heard of a program called SpeeDex from IT, that seems to be > gewil: some sort of personal information manager, capable to store > gewil: and search full text data. Has anyone heard of this product, > gewil: does it exist for white hardware and are there demo versions > gewil: available on the net ? > > You already have that on your NEXTSTEP. > Actually, SpeedDex offers a different set of functionality from Digital Librarian. SpeedDex is a personal information manager, based on a card file metaphor. If you ever used 3 x 5 index cards in college to organize your notes, SpeedDeX will be familiar to you. Essentially a flat file database, you can use SpeedDeX to store and retrieve any kind of unformatted information -- notes, business cards, call records, etc. You can easily access the data you need, when you need it through fast ASCII text searches. SpeedDex supports Rich Text formatting (RTF), and drag-and-drop attachment of files and images to cards (it does not search within attachments). It provides extensive and fast searching capabilities. Cards can be any length and any number of cards can be created within a single card file. A maximum of 10 card files can be opened simultaneously. SpeedDex has been used by companies to create company wide phone books, library reference card files, and customer information systems. More information can be found at http://www.its.com/products/SpeedDex.htmld/ or by sending mail to: info@its.com The product is available for Motorola and Intel NEXTSTEP. -- <ADDRESS> Ted Shelton, President IT Solutions, Inc. 500 West Madison, Suite 2210 Chicago, IL 60661 (312) 474-7700 </ADDRESS>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: jwa2n@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (James W. Adams) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DEnFDz.L3K@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:32:23 GMT In article <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu>, me <jdoe@somewhere.edu> wrote: > >Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, >particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts >that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to >Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. Just be happy you don't work for one of the many, many organizations who suffer the widespread delusion that Microsoft is a standards organization... -- James W. Adams Medical Center Computing Box 512, HSC jwa2n@virginia.edu University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22908
From: Robert Rivkin <rrivkin@umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:36:38 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.950909143315.16825E-100000@umbc7.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: rrivkin In-Reply-To: <DEnFDz.L3K@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, James W. Adams wrote: > In article <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu>, > me <jdoe@somewhere.edu> wrote: > > > >Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, > >particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts > >that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to > >Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are > >stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy > >it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the > >market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately > >it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. > > Just be happy you don't work for one of the many, many organizations > who suffer the widespread delusion that Microsoft is a standards > organization... > > > -- > James W. Adams Medical Center Computing > Box 512, HSC jwa2n@virginia.edu > University of Virginia > Charlottesville, VA 22908 > > How much longer is this thread going to continue? Enough.
From: cedman@phoenix.princeton.edu (Carl F. Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: File Viewer Resizing Question Date: 9 Sep 1995 18:04:35 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <42skvj$8mj@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <42r3q4$ijb@cnn.Princeton.EDU> In article <42r3q4$ijb@cnn.Princeton.EDU>, <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > Is there a way to resize the File Viewer without it moving all the shelf > icons around? I know this would be considered a 'feature', but I > organize shelf as: > [ my house ] [ often accessed folders under house ] > [ root dir ] [ often accessed folders in root dir ] > [ my 2nd disk ] [ often accessed folders in second disk ] > so if I resize the File Viewer, it goes all askew. Well, what I'd do in your place would be to install MonsterShelf.app or (even better) Fiend.app and store all your folders in those. These applications allow you far greater control over where and how icons are placed and don't depend on the file viewer which really isn't the ideal tool for your task. And don't think you lack the space on your dock for Fiend.app. Fiend.app includes the functionality of BackSpace.app, so you can just replace it on the dock. Carl Edman
From: Jeff Read <jread@attila.stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 9 Sep 1995 19:38:50 GMT Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You know what? I hate it when Mac-supremacists come on here and SLAM Windows and Windows 95. Even a well-equipped Power Mac can be just as frustrating and just as difficult and just as crash-prone as a Windows PC. And the thing that Windows 95 has that Mac OS will never have? A command line. Yes, there's a learning curve, but if you learn the system, COPY C:\WINWORD\DOCS\*.* A: sounds a lot faster and easier than hunting for the Microsoft Word folder, then hunting for the Documents folder, then using the Control key to cumulatively select all the files, and then moving your windows around so the floppy disk icon is visible on the desktop, and then dragging the whole mess to the floppy disk. I was at the MacWorld Expo in Boston this summer. Macs, Macs, everywhere you looked. And it was STILL very comforting to get back home to my familiar old Windows PC. So Mac-supremacists, please take a hike and find your own newsgroup. Leave us Windows users in peace.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InfoWorld article on OpenStep Date: 9 Sep 1995 19:36:40 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <42sqc8$s3d@emerald.oz.net> I recall seeing a reference to an OpenStep article in the _InfoWorld_ (I believe) issue published within the past couple of weeks. It apparently included a screen dump of OpenStep on Windows NT. I don't subscribe to _InfoWorld_ and would like to get a copy of the article. Could someone provide contact information for _InfoWorld_ so that I can try to get a copy from them? Thanks. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: manders1@swarthmore.edu (Michael Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 9 Sep 1995 16:59:57 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College Message-ID: <manders1-0909951300000001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ]Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel > ]processors, I'd be running _that_. Excuse me??? Am I reading this right??? This is the most ridiculous statement I have yet seen! It's like saying, "Well, if the United States had just adopted the Mexican peso or the Russian ruble as its official currency a couple of years ago, we wouldn't have to worry about the weak dollar." Intel processors are practically an anachronism at this point!!!
From: manders1@swarthmore.edu (Michael Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 9 Sep 1995 17:01:05 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College Message-ID: <manders1-0909951301080001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> <42qja1$fka@data.interserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <42qja1$fka@data.interserv.net>, valcom@cencom.net wrote: > mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) wrote: > > > So who has the dead-end hardware? > > You do, bud. Wake up and smell the coffee. Sorry, you must have mistaken me for a PC user. That's okay though...it's an understandable mistake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199509092018.AA194547935@relay1.geis.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 20:08:00 UTC Subject: NeXTanswers on CDROM >I've read that the Peanuts Archive CD-ROM set contains the full set of >NeXTanswers up to the point in time when the disk were mastered. Do >of the other collection CD-ROMs contain NeXTanswers? The Nebula Quad-FAT does not contain the NeXTanswers on the disc. But it does have over 550 applications which more then 400 of them are Quad-Fat... If you need more info look at: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/nebula.html Eric "E.T." Walnut Creek CDROM eric@cdrom.com
From: ddraper@tiac.net (Dr. Dave) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 01:30:31 GMT Organization: Terrapin Enterprises Message-ID: <42tf3n$das_001@ddraper.tiac.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> In article <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) wrote: #Richard D. Wilson (wilsonr@gdls.com) wrote: # #: Uhh-humm... Windoze? Warp? Gimme a break! # #: Real programmers prefer real OS's (eg Linux / X). #: BTW, why is 'doze95 called 32 bit when it still has DOS crawling around in its #: guts? Actually, forget I asked. I don't want to know... # # That's because it doesn't still have "DOS crawling around in its guts". #It can emulate DOS software much in the same way that Linux can. #And there's a "DOS Mode" available that's _only_ DOS. Everything ^^^^^^^^^^ #in Win '95 is 32-bit; my SCSI drivers, video drivers, etc etc everything. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think you ought to check you facts out, either that or open your mouth and insert your foot. There is more 16-bit code in the guts on Win 95 than Microsoft likes to admit. Almost all of the USER and GDI system code is 16-bit. Most of the DOS and Win 3.1 emulation code is 16-bit. I would go so far as to say most of the 16-bit code in Win 95 was grafted in from DOS and Win 3.1 and them modified to run. - Dave David Draper Software Consultant - Unix/DOS/Windows ddraper@tiac.net or dave@xait.xerox.com (617) 275-5045
From: LPeters@microsoft.com (L.Peters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: NUGGET CONTROVERSY Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 04:28:20 GMT Organization: Pennsylvania Online! [slip/ppp/bbs/NEWSHUB/FTPHUB] Message-ID: <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> Okay all you Win95 fanatics, this post is in response to the August 29th AlphaNewsWire article ... ------------------------------------------------------------ 29AugANWS Orig: Clev.ConvCentr LFrom: G.Thompson Req: Win95"PicSome" ... "Another controversy with the size and efficiency of Microsoft's newest upgrade to Windows 95 is highlighted by this next bit of 'horse sense'. As it has been confirmed by hundreds of 'cyber-jockies' around the globe, a curious hidden addition to the new Windows upgrade has been discovered. A 3 meg 24 bit color image of a horse appears when certain keys are depressed upon the 'Starting Windows 95' screen. What is even more fascinating are the various rumors flying about concerning the reason of this last-minute addition to the very popular computer operating system. Anonymous sources at Microsoft have offered that the animal is no other than Bill Gate's prized steed, 'Nugget'. 'Bill is very proud about his horse and the luck she's brought him. He's a bit superstitious about these things, but you can't argue with his success,' the insider reported" ... ------------------------------------------------------------ 29AugANWS Okay, first of all, DON'T press these keys at the "Starting Windows 95..." screen. Try it when the mouse pointer first appears when windows is just starting (the desktop should be black). You have to be quick, and you have to hit the keys IN ORDER: CTRL+F6+RSHIFT+DEL+RMOUSE And YES Nugget will appear in all his glory. And by the way, DO NOT try to delete the files that contain the image. (just a little friendly advice) :) That's all I'm going to add about this matter. Good Luck!
From: lunacie@hooked.net (John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 07:20:44 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Jeff Read <jread@attila.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: >You know what? I hate it when Mac-supremacists come on here and SLAM Windows and >Windows 95. You know what I really hate? When Mac-vs-PC wars get started in a _SILICON GRAPHICS_ newsgoup. What is this thread doing here in the first place?! SGI's are not made by Apple or Intel, last I checked (though the RE2 did/does have some Intel i860 risc chips in it...), do not run windows or mac os. This is not the right newsgroup for this flame war, and I wish you all would post your stuff in the appropriate ones. jt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc Digital Animation & F/X Tel.: 415.896.1505 Fax.: 415.896.1603 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 10 Sep 1995 08:42:55 GMT Organization: Northern Territory University Message-ID: <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc (lunacie@hooked.net) wrote: : Jeff Read <jread@attila.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: : >You know what? I hate it when Mac-supremacists come on here and SLAM Windows and : >Windows 95. : You know what I really hate? When Mac-vs-PC wars get started in a : _SILICON GRAPHICS_ newsgoup. What is this thread doing here in the : first place?! : SGI's are not made by Apple or Intel, last I checked (though the RE2 : did/does have some Intel i860 risc chips in it...), do not run windows : or mac os. This is not the right newsgroup for this flame war, and I : wish you all would post your stuff in the appropriate ones. : jt You know what I really hate? Mac and Windows owners claiming that their systems are the best when an Alpha, or a SGI blows them away!!! : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc : Digital Animation & F/X : Tel.: 415.896.1505 : Fax.: 415.896.1603 : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: emmett@os-tools.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 10 Sep 1995 03:33:16 GMT Organization: Able Technical Services Message-ID: <42tm9t$j0r@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> --- deleted --- >Catch up, hell!! Those tire tracks on you back have mark of Microsoft. >Man your warpers really crack me up, if you haven't noticed yet market >just left a crap on os2 and ran away. > Until you came into this discussion (now a flame) it was all just a bit of fun. If your windoze is so good why are you so angry that we like one or more of the real Computer Operating Systems, as apposed to a "piece" of software that is mearly famous for the number of dollars spent trying to get "those who don't know what a good OS can do for them" to buy the "piece" you love so dearly. Go to another NG and ply your hate! Emmett (emmett@os-tools.com) OS/tools Incorporated COMscope, COMspool, COMi SafePage, PageStar, QuickPage
From: pfeifer@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ulrich Pfeifer) Newsgroups: ,comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Compiling? html type? Date: 10 Sep 1995 16:00:55 +0200 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: pfeifer@buster.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Message-ID: <yfm3fe59eg8.fsf@buster.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> References: <41fgo3$4i3@apoll.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) >>>>> In article <41fgo3$4i3@apoll.informatik.uni-bonn.de>, frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) writes: In article <41fgo3$4i3@apoll.informatik.uni-bonn.de> frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) writes: JvF> after adding some -posix here and there in the makefiles, I managed to JvF> get freeWAIS-sf-1.1 to what seems up and running on NextStep 3.3. JvF> Unfortunately it does not have an html type. You do not need such thing in freeWAIS-sf. Just use an apropriate format file. Ulrich
From: pelrod@dalton.net (pelrod) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:16:06 GMT Organization: Chattanooga Online! Message-ID: <42uu5q$auk@news.chattanooga.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42ojc0$hcs@news.rain.org> Steve Childress <stevec@rain.org> wrote: > REAL PROGRAMMERS DO IT WITH SWITCHES AND LIGHTS. WRONG! REAL PROGRAMMERS USE ONLY COPY CON!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: bringing news groups to my NeXT Message-ID: <DEnt9J.7oL@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: uubasil@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Organization: Warty Wolfs References: <9509080732.AA04136@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> <1995Sep8.171326.20613@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 22:32:06 GMT Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> wrote: > In article <9509080732.AA04136@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> > luomat%charisma@Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > I'm wanting to take all the comp.sys.next.* newsgroup posts and > > download them to my machine so I can read them off-line (yes I know > > there are email digests but there are a few other groups I'd like to > > get also). > > > > I'd be interested in hearing how others are doing this (someone out > > there must be doing this...). I have 'slurp' on my machine which > > is supposed to do this but I can't get the syntax worked out and > > email to the author goes unanswered. > Using slurp, with a news machine aliased to news: > /usr/local/bin/slurp news [slurp configuration details munched] Another minor[:-}] detail; you'll have to have CNews installed on the same machine from which you run slurp. (or other news-server software like INN, but then [shameless plug on] CNews is available as an easy-to-install package at: <ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next/NeGeN-2.0a_CNews.NIHS.b.tar.gz> courtesy to NeGeN/NiNe --the Dutch NeXT user group-- and R&A [shameless plug off]). -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DEp8qA.Ku6@ecf.toronto.edu> Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> <42q247$t6u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:03:45 GMT In article <42q247$t6u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, Joel Sartoris <jsart@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >In <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP >ANDY) writes: > >>[snip] > >>Even saying that, I think I like Win95. technically speaking, it's WAY >>behind OS/2. But the interface is pretty nice, and little things (like >>3rd parties actually using the RMB functionality, and screen res. >>changing on the fly) are nice too. The main reason to support Win 95? >>It's a means to an end to get to WinNT 2 years from now. and Win NT IS >>technically superior to OS/2, and scaleable to boot :-) > >Actually, I think you have it backwards. Win95 will be the means that >*ends* WinNT. > >--Joel Sartoris How can you possibly say that? Win95 is a means to get Lower-costing machines running Win32 apps. Once this happens, WinNT has a big software base (the ultimate push is to have WinNT compatable with ALL Win95 Win32 apps). With the falling prices of hardware, WinNT does not seem like the monster it once was, and sooner or later it will be viable as a low-end platform as well as a high-end one. Andy K.
From: jragosta@dca.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 12:44:50 GMT Organization: Graver Chemical Message-ID: <jragosta-0809950846380001@ppp-1013.dca.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> In article <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) wrote: > You state that "experts say Win95 sucks, but I have no experience with > it". I suppose you believe the Pope when he says that contraception > is evil. After all, the Pope is an expert. Actually, I sort of doubt that the Pope has any first hand experience with contraception. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta -- 100% Chemical and proud of it. Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Joseph Ragosta, 1995. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. Please send notices of violation to docjoe@interramp.com and Postmaster@microsoft.com
From: mfried@linex.com (Marty Fried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:10:26 GMT Organization: At Home Message-ID: <42vd71$qfu@miwok.nbn.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42tm9t$j0r@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> Once upon a time, emmett@os-tools.com wrote: >--- deleted --- >Go to another NG and ply your hate! > >Emmett (emmett@os-tools.com) > OS/tools Incorporated > COMscope, COMspool, COMi > SafePage, PageStar, QuickPage What other newsgroup do you suggest - you posted this to just about every computer newsgroup in existence, including all win95 groups. Maybe you should stop the spamming if you don't like the responses. _______________________________________________________ Marty Fried (mfried@linex.com) Marin County, CA Windows Programmer Make me one with everything. Win95 tcp/ip -Zen monk to the hotdog vendor _______________________________________________________
From: luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: looking for perl 5.001m for m68k Date: 10 Sep 1995 17:20:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509102218.AA12398@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> I'm looking for perl 5.001m for m68k, precompiled preferred (obviously?). Thanks TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm using PPP, so big email = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: "Harry A. Smith" <hasmith@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 8 Sep 1995 01:54:09 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have used a Mac for almost 10 years now. I have found NOTHING I can't do on it that I CAN do on a DOS/Windows based PC. I run REAL real applications such as intense number crunching in simulations of reaction diffusion mechanisms underlying pattern formation in biochemical systems. I also do solutions of population models using spreadsheets and other numerical software. I have programmed in several environments including BASIC. Pascal, C/C++, Mathematica, Hypercard inter alia. I have produced commercial and non-commercial educartional projects, given multimedia presentations at local, regional, national, and international conferences. I also use the machine in the classroom and the lab. I have published several lab manuals all created on a low end word processor on the mac. I have also gotten MANY other faculty members at my college to use computers in and out of the classroom on a daily basis all because they find they CAN use the Mac easily and productively. Now I don't know how much more REAL-WORLD you want to get! I have despite the above just purchased a multimedia PC and have RATIONALLY decided to install Win 95 on it. Why? Because my machine now runs faster, has better memory management and is easier to use generally. Not because it is more like a Mac (that's BS as any Mac-literate user would tell you) but simply because it is a superior operating system than Win 3.11 OR Os/2 (yes I have extensively used it as well). You know, if we just stopped slamming other people's choices and spent more time on the good points of our own choices, these discussions might be more profitable. Too much of what I'm reading here sounds like puerile schoolyard "Mine's Bigger Than Yours" whinings. If you don't like an OS - don't use it!!!! But for goodness sake, don't slam other people for their likes and dislikes! Peace. Harry A. Smith
From: LPeters@microsoft.com (L.Peters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> Control: cancel <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> Date: 11 Sep 1995 00:02:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <cancel.42thko$347@news.paonline.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by buhr@stat.wisc.edu See news.admin.net-abuse.announce for further details.
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: InfoWorld article on OpenStep Date: 11 Sep 1995 12:48:22 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <431b6m$310@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <42sqc8$s3d@emerald.oz.net> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: / I don't subscribe to _InfoWorld_ and would like to get a copy of the / article. Could someone provide contact information for _InfoWorld_ so / that I can try to get a copy from them? Take a look at http://www.infoworld.com/subs.html and contact hallmark@infoworld.com. Or visit http://www.infoworld.com/online.html for information about "InfoWorld Archives Online." -- tbm Support the League for Programming Freedom -- http://www.lpf.org/ Read "Against User Interface Copyright" at http://www.lpf.org/Copyright/look-and-feel.html
From: pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil (Louis M. Pecora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 14:09:25 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <pecora-1109951016570001@lou-pecora.nrl.navy.mil> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu> In article <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu>, "Harry A. Smith" <hasmith@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> wrote: > > You know, if we just stopped slamming other people's choices and spent > more time on the good points of our own choices, these discussions might > be more profitable. Too much of what I'm reading here sounds like puerile > schoolyard "Mine's Bigger Than Yours" whinings. > > If you don't like an OS - don't use it!!!! But for goodness sake, don't > slam other people for their likes and dislikes! You're absolutely right... but mine *is* bigger than yours :-) . -- Louis M. Pecora pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil /* My views and opinions are not those of the U.S. Navy. If you want those, you have to start a war. */
From: Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is ftp.dn.net? Date: 11 Sep 1995 15:00:24 +0200 Organization: private site in Munich, (South) Germany Sender: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Message-ID: <AXEL.95Sep11150022@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <42g69g$gi4@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <42klde$okg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950906232128.6222A-100000@charisma> <42mabq$k1t@usc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950907102017.7811C-100000@charisma> In-reply-to: "Timothy J. Luoma"'s message of Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:22:13 -0400 >>>>> "Timothy" == Timothy J Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: >> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@charisma> wrote: > I suspect something >> more malicious, like the installation program for > WinNT deleted >> anything related to NS. >> Timothy> reichman@scf.usc.edu responded: >> Actually, peanuts is empty, too! For a few days now! Timothy> ?huh? That I didn't notice.... although logging in was really Timothy> slow lately. Were you using an FTP application like GatorFTP? Timothy> Sometimes it gets fooled into thinking that things are not Timothy> there if it takes too long. It's definitely not true, that peanuts was empty! It's up'n'running (only this morning was an exception when the machine was doen....); but we are experiencing problems with our wan connection; but we can't do anything to remedy the situation (we think it's due to a faulty router at our "service provider", but as it happens with state-owned scientific institutions, they don't really show any customer orientation :-))) Hope this helps to clarify things, Axel P.S. While I'm at it: You sure have all noticed that our Web-server is now reachable via http://peanuts.leo.org/ and http://peanuts.leo.org/index-e.html, respectively!?! It's sometimes strange to see what URLs some people are trying to receive... -- Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXT/MIME-Mail) seibert@leo.org You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
From: Joongsub Lee <jslee@egg.audience.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q] application. Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:53:26 +0900 Organization: KORNET (Korea Telecom) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.950911234047.696A-100000@egg.audience.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, all. i am new to next step for intel. so i have some question about step. 1. where can i get the electronics application, especially spice, mask-layout(vlsi)... or impossible? 2. i need ppp program. how can i get this one and hwo to configure it? 3. i installed next-step 3.3 on 2giga hdd. now i want to allocate the 1giga for bsdi. how can i build it without re-installing from cd? 4. could you please recommend anonyomous ftp sites? thanks in advance. please give me it by e-mail. i can't see newgroups
From: chuck@its.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 11 Sep 1995 16:09:18 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <431mve$69o@news.its.com> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: > Hello all! I have a question regarding the resolution of timers. > The man page for gettimeofday says: > > "The resolution of the system clock is hardware > dependent, and the time may be updated continuously or in > ``ticks.''" That's correct. > Well... I need to find out this resolution value for an Intel P-90. > Running the program suggested in the Digital Librarian that calls: [ ... ] > My result is not very helpful. Anybody know how to go about determing > the resoultion of the clock? Any insight greatly appreciated! Contact the maker of your P-90 motherboard and ask them. The call you used normally consults values determined by the hardware manufacturer for the particular system type in use. You'd probably get correct results if you ran it on black hardware, and maybe even if you ran it on HP or Sun machines. However, I don't believe there's any way for the OS to determine which PC motherboard and quartz clock you're using, so there's no way for the system to give you a valid response. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 11 Sep 1995 16:14:14 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <431n8m$dpj@news.xmission.com> References: <dcl.810585858@mercury> Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote: : What should I look for when considering hardware purchases to run both : Linux and NextStep? Fast PCI video, PCI SCSI, and PCI Ethernet. I have an early NumberNine GXE64Pro 4 MB PCI card (flawless!), an Adaptec 2940 PCI card (decent), and a Cogent EM960 (amazing). My 32 MB, P90 machine is rocket-fast. : It's easy to find hardware that will run Linux, but is : it so easy for NextStep? Yes. : Will I have trouble with an EIDE drive and no : sound card? Probably not. -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
From: smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu (Stephen C. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:53:19 GMT Organization: UAB Dept. of Biocommunication Message-ID: <431osm$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <manders1-0909951300000001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> manders1@swarthmore.edu (Michael Anderson) wrote: >> ]Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel >> ]processors, I'd be running _that_. >Excuse me??? Am I reading this right??? This is the most ridiculous >statement I have yet seen! It's like saying, "Well, if the United States >had just adopted the Mexican peso or the Russian ruble as its official >currency a couple of years ago, we wouldn't have to worry about the weak >dollar." Intel processors are practically an anachronism at this point!!! Excuse me??? Am I reading your follow-up right??? I believe the original poster was merely saying that MacOS has been/still is far superior to other OSes available for Intel processors. Given the better affordability of PC hardware, I believe that Apple may have really blown it by NOT doing this a long time ago. I just wrote that, and I've only used a Mac once in my entire life. -------------------------------------------- Steve smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu -------------------------------------------- Fast multitasking does not a good OS make.
From: smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu (Stephen C. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:35:06 GMT Organization: UAB Dept. of Biocommunication Message-ID: <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) wrote: >You know what I really hate? Mac and Windows owners claiming that their systems >are the best when an Alpha, or a SGI blows them away!!! Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in my basement garage has got you ALL beat. But then, I had the money, so what the hey? -------------------------------------------- Steve smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu -------------------------------------------- Fast multitasking does not a good OS make.
From: catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:54:33 -0800 Organization: MacPascal Mailing List Message-ID: <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> In article <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) wrote: > me (jdoe@somewhere.edu) wrote: > > : Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, > : particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts > : that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to > : Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are > : stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy > : it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the > : market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately > : it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. > > I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier > to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. Ha! That does not sound very _rational_ to me. Even PC users have admitted that PC's are _not_ easy to setup, and in comparison to Macs, they don't even come close. In fact, the friends I know who went the PC route now let their computers sit their unused simply because they got tired of dealing with the problems. Why do you think that a PC is easier to setup? Simpler to use? > And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual > work, with actual applications, some of which are not available > on Macintosh. Such as? The majority of people at our company use Macs, and do actual work. Your opinion sounds irrationally weighted, and you haven't provided anything to backup your opinions. I think you're just too embarassed to go "Moo!" and admit you have simply gone with the herd rather than truly making the right choice. > > -- > Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask > Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! > bazyar@hypermall.com | P.O Box 620334 (Sequential: 303-666-4549) > --The Future is Now!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273 _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS /> // The purpose of software engineering (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ is to manage complexity, not to create it. \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil (Louis M. Pecora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:15:15 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <pecora-1109951422470001@lou-pecora.nrl.navy.mil> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> In article <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu>, smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu wrote: > jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) wrote: > > >You know what I really hate? Mac and Windows owners claiming that their systems > >are the best when an Alpha, or a SGI blows them away!!! > > Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively > Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in > my basement garage has got you ALL beat. > > But then, I had the money, so what the hey? Yeah, well I have a clone of that for half the price you paid. 8-} -- Louis M. Pecora pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil /* My views and opinions are not those of the U.S. Navy. If you want those, you have to start a war. */
From: jescoent@ix.netcom.com (John Schneider ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:52:47 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> >> I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier >> to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. > >Ha! That does not sound very _rational_ to me. Even PC users have >admitted that PC's are _not_ easy to setup, and in comparison to Macs, >they don't even come close. In fact, the friends I know who went the PC >route now let their computers sit their unused simply because they got >tired of dealing with the problems. Why do you think that a PC is easier >to setup? Simpler to use? > >> And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual >> work, with actual applications, some of which are not available >> on Macintosh. > >Such as? The majority of people at our company use Macs, and do actual >work. Your opinion sounds irrationally weighted, and you haven't provided >anything to backup your opinions. I think you're just too embarassed to >go "Moo!" and admit you have simply gone with the herd rather than truly >making the right choice. Running the risk of sounding like an apologist for Microsoft and the entire PC industry, I must comment on the "simplicity" of setting up PCs. I frequently hear this argument, and I understand that what people wish to consider "simple" in this day and age is to plug it in and it works. Well, sadly, the world is not like that at all. You have to tweak every once in a while. In addition, I have had a "PC" for a little over two years (prior, I had a seriously deficient system---no, it wasn't an Apple, I kind of like their OS), and as long as I read up on the particulars of what I want to do, I usually have no trouble. In other words, if people would read the manual, or the instructions(as long as they are decent ones!), they should really have no trouble. I like both windows systems and mac systems, I just find that mac systems are overpriced for the benefits that they give. At least that is the situation in my city. In addition, I live in an area that for some reason is pc territory, and software and other goodies are not easy to come by, and certainly not in any great variety. I also have to admit that I like working in my system, performing the occasional tweak now and then. I find that windows and mac are merging in capability, with mac havin the edge in cutting edge technology, but then again, this is an industry that almost requires the company on the cutting edge to take lots of hits, and Apple has certainly taken its share of hits. Just meandering thoughts on this thread... John Schneider jescoent@ix.netcom.com (hey, its better than havin aol.com after my name!)
From: caradoc@neta.com(John Groseclose) Newsgroups: control,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <DEnrHA.2y1@goodnet.com> Control: cancel <DEnrHA.2y1@goodnet.com> Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:51:00 GMT Organization: Royal Society for the Prevention of Spam Sender: jgros@goodnet.com (John Grosclose) Message-ID: <cancel.DEnrHA.2y1@goodnet.com> Death to Spam!
From: steve@xray.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:55:54 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <4320nq$3p3@larry.rice.edu> References: <dcl.810585858@mercury> <431n8m$dpj@news.xmission.com> : Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote: : : What should I look for when considering hardware purchases to run both : : Linux and NextStep? : Fast PCI video, PCI SCSI, and PCI Ethernet. Fast PCI video is a must. The other two are pretty optional. Getting more memory will improve the machine's performance much more. We have an EIDE machine and a SCSI machine, and they 'feel' about the same. Both have 32M of memory. I've seen a 16M machine in 8bit mode, and it had to swap all of the time. Get at least 24M of memory, and a decent PCI video card. The $200 S3-dram based cards are fine. The VRAM versions that cost twice as much aren't noticably faster in NS. If you have money to burn the PCI SCSI and PCI Ethernet are worthwhile, but on a budget ISA ethernet and PCI EIDE are quite sufficent, even for developing. A large screen (at least 17") is also a must. Most machines now should work ok. Ours is a Micron P90 and installed and runs flawlessly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ludtke | Physics Dept., Rice Univ. steve@ion.rice.edu | stevel@alumni.caltech.edu | * Those who do ARE * 72335,1537 @ compuserve | The converse also holds
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 11 Sep 1995 19:53:34 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <43243u$1sk@clarknet.clark.net> References: <dcl.810585858@mercury> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote: : they have, however. So now I'm considering buying my Intel machine not : only to run Linux, but also NextStep for Intel. : : What should I look for when considering hardware purchases to run both : Linux and NextStep? It's easy to find hardware that will run Linux, but is : it so easy for NextStep? Will I have trouble with an EIDE drive and no : sound card? Actually, I find it easier to deal with NEXTSTEP than Linux. NEXTSTEP has good or great support for certain new high end PC hardware. When buying a new machine, supporting NEXTSTEP is pretty easy. Getting NEXTSTEP to work well on older machines or machines purchased for DOS/Windows is much harder. Configuration is also easier with NEXTSTEP and 3.3's Plug and Play support. Basically, only my sound card wasn't Plug and Play. Of course, to deal with that, you have to learn how to work the PnP BIOS to mark the proper IRQ's and DMA channels. Anyways... there's no reason not to get SCSI. Buy a NCR 810 or 825 based PCI card - there are lots of those out there. If you get a Triton based motherboard with the NCR BIOS on board, all you need is to get a NCR 810 board for $75. If you want fast/wide and/or you don't have the NCR BIOS on board, a NCR 825 board runs $125-$150 depending on the connectors. The NCR is supported by FreeBSD, Linux, and NEXTSTEP. For NEXTSTEP, you'll have to ftp the drivers from NCR. For fancier BIOS setup, the Adaptec 2940 and DPT 2x24 are great choices. As for hard drives, well, a 500mb SCSI drive is oh, $169 from the Internet Shopping Network. 1 gigabyte SCSI drives are $350-$500. Just not that much of a difference compared to EIDE. Note that most manufacturers have some really low performance EIDE drives geared for minimum price... equal raw performance drives have almost no price difference between EIDE and SCSI. Of course, since EIDE doesn't have all the features of SCSI, you'll feel a performance and versatility difference. Note that for Linux, you'll have to get pretty recent versions to get full support for PCI devices, especially S3 968 cards like the Elsa Winner Pro-X and the Diamond Stealth 64 Video. The latest XFree86 is supposed to deal with S3 968 properly. Basically, check NeXTanswers (+ NCR stuff that isn't mentioned), diff/merge against the Linux hardware HOWTO info.
From: catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:29:20 -0800 Organization: MacPascal Mailing List Message-ID: <catambay-1109951229200001@129.197.23.13> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In article <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Jeff Read <jread@attila.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > You know what? I hate it when Mac-supremacists come on here and SLAM Windows and > Windows 95. I haven't read all the posts, so I haven't seen the ones "slamming" Windows 95. For users of old Windows, I can see that Windows 95 is a great thing. > Even a well-equipped Power Mac can be just as frustrating and just as > difficult and just as crash-prone as a Windows PC. Well, it is certainly crash-prone, but having worked with PowerMacs and Pentium PCs, I do not think a PowerMac comes close to the frustration which is common on the PC platform. > And the thing that Windows 95 has > that Mac OS will never have? A command line. Yes, there's a learning curve, but if > you learn the system, COPY C:\WINWORD\DOCS\*.* A: sounds a lot faster and easier > than hunting for the Microsoft Word folder, then hunting for the Documents folder, > then using the Control key to cumulatively select all the files, and then moving > your windows around so the floppy disk icon is visible on the desktop, and then > dragging the whole mess to the floppy disk. Why not Command-F, type in file you are looking for (close to a command line)? But after finding it, it unfortunately gets too easy... you drag the file onto the floppy icon. However, if you really like the command line, I can easily write a program which emulates the DOS command line. This might be the key to winning some of the PC users over. I am not a "supremist" for the Mac, in fact I dislike Apple Inc (choosing between Apple and Microsoft is like voting for president... choosing the lesser of two evils). But as far as product (thanks to some sharp engineers at Apple), the Macintosh is the better machine (including the Mac OS). Personally, I wouldn't mind if a 3rd company came out with something even better, but I haven't seen it yet. _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS /> // The purpose of software engineering (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ is to manage complexity, not to create it. \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:38:26 -0800 Organization: MacPascal Mailing List Message-ID: <catambay-1109951238260001@129.197.23.13> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu> <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi> In article <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi>, longjohn@jtmail.pp.fi wrote: > In <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu>, "Harry A. Smith" <hasmith@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> writes: > >I have used a Mac for almost 10 years now. I have found NOTHING I can't do > >on it that I CAN do on a DOS/Windows based PC. I run REAL real > > Try taking mouseball away and use your mac then...;) That's actually pretty easy. I prefer keyboard for most of the work I do, and only use the mouse when it is the more productive thing to do. But you can use the keyboard even for the things which are more productive to do with a mouse. Throwing the mouse away simply means going back in time to prehistoric uses of the computer. I wish we would get DEC windows for our VAX, but as it is, we must go mouseless. ;-) _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS /> // The purpose of software engineering (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ is to manage complexity, not to create it. \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:41:10 -0800 Organization: MacPascal Mailing List Message-ID: <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> In article <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu>, smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu wrote: > jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) wrote: > > >You know what I really hate? Mac and Windows owners claiming that their systems > >are the best when an Alpha, or a SGI blows them away!!! > > Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively > Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in > my basement garage has got you ALL beat. > > But then, I had the money, so what the hey? > > > -------------------------------------------- > Steve smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu > -------------------------------------------- > Fast multitasking does not a good OS make. Right on man! If I had the money, I'd do that same thing! =) _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS /> // The purpose of software engineering (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ is to manage complexity, not to create it. \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:49:26 -0800 Organization: MacPascal Mailing List Message-ID: <catambay-1109951249260001@129.197.23.13> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> In article <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, jescoent@ix.netcom.com (John Schneider ) wrote: > > Running the risk of sounding like an apologist for Microsoft and the > entire PC industry, I must comment on the "simplicity" of setting up > PCs. I frequently hear this argument, and I understand that what > people wish to consider "simple" in this day and age is to plug it in > and it works. Well, sadly, the world is not like that at all. You > have to tweak every once in a while. In addition, I have had a "PC" > for a little over two years (prior, I had a seriously deficient > system---no, it wasn't an Apple, I kind of like their OS), and as long > as I read up on the particulars of what I want to do, I usually have no > trouble. In other words, if people would read the manual, or the > instructions(as long as they are decent ones!), they should really have > no trouble. I like both windows systems and mac systems, I just find > that mac systems are overpriced for the benefits that they give. At > least that is the situation in my city. In addition, I live in an area > that for some reason is pc territory, and software and other goodies > are not easy to come by, and certainly not in any great variety. I > also have to admit that I like working in my system, performing the > occasional tweak now and then. I find that windows and mac are merging > in capability, with mac havin the edge in cutting edge technology, but > then again, this is an industry that almost requires the company on the > cutting edge to take lots of hits, and Apple has certainly taken its > share of hits. > Well said. I agree with you on many points, and have found that computer tinkerers (like auto mechanics) are comfortable with the tinkering they have to do with the PC platform puzzle. Unfortunately, there are many who are not "mechanically" inclined (including having a problem with manuals), and are very intimidated by "technical" troubles. On both platforms, they tend to just ignore the computer and let it become a lost investment. However, in my experience, it happens much more frequently on the PC platform, and I think a lot of people are getting bit by it. As far as pricing, get yourself some good mail order catalogs and forget about what takes up all the space in your local computer stores. It's cheaper that way anyway. You'll also notice that Apple's prices are very very affordable, and you get more power for you buck (oh, and the clones are coming too). > (hey, its better than havin aol.com after my name!) Grrrrr..... ;-) _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS /> // The purpose of software engineering (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ is to manage complexity, not to create it. \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: kkeiser@mail.access.ch (Karl Keiser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 22:17:40 +0100 Organization: Walchwil Message-ID: <kkeiser-1109952217400001@kkeiser.access.ch> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> After all, since all of the reviews of > Win95 comment on how it is more Mac-like, then maybe Apple can convince > people to go ahead a buy the real thing since they need new hardware and > new versions of software to actually use Win95. > > -- > Greg Vaughn G.Vaughn@ttu.edu > Newton Developer NETSeer Corp. You are, for my opinion 200% right! kk -- SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCH CHCH CHCH CHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS
From: G.Vaughn@ttu.edu (Greg Vaughn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 15:36:35 -0500 Organization: Austin-Seer Corp. Message-ID: <G.Vaughn-1109951536350001@slip-10-2.ots.utexas.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu> <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi> In article <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi>, longjohn@jtmail.pp.fi wrote: > In <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu>, "Harry A. Smith" <hasmith@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> writes: > >I have used a Mac for almost 10 years now. I have found NOTHING I can't do > >on it that I CAN do on a DOS/Windows based PC. I run REAL real > > Try taking mouseball away and use your mac then...;) Sure thing. If it's running Sytem 7.x then you can use key equivalents to do all your Finder navigation. Just check the docs. Another option is to use the Apple supplied control panel, Easy Access. Activate it by command-shift-clear, and your numeric keypad then moves the cursor. Please make sure you know what you are talking about before spouting your mouth off. -- Greg Vaughn G.Vaughn@ttu.edu Newton Developer NETSeer Corp. "If this were a logical world, *men* would ride sidesaddle" {My views do not necessarily represent those of my employer}
From: hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 11 Sep 1995 20:38:18 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> This is wacky- Our news site doesn't have the post with the screenshot in it, nor can I find it on ftp.cs.orst.edu (there's a corrupt gif there)... Can someone e-mail it to me via NEXTMAIL? Thanks! Sean --- Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505
From: kkeiser@mail.access.ch (Karl Keiser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 22:32:24 +0100 Organization: Walchwil Message-ID: <kkeiser-1109952232240001@kkeiser.access.ch> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> > To be truthful, I have one on my desk. So, I've used it for much more > than 30 minutes. It does, however, make a terrific paperweight. <g> Did your posting also mean something about the upcoming Q and/or the upgrade possab. on MP 120? We have to pay an arm and a leg for a 120 german-version. So i belive that apple has the best PC's but almost the worst marketing and customer division. Wrong, i know it! How can you habe the best stuff and only a marketshare of 10 to 15%. You must be stupid! But, I love the genius machines from cupertino. kk -- SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCH CHCH CHCH CHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH CHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCH SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS-SWISS-GREETINGS
From: broudy@bcf.usc.edu (david s. broudy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:39:52 -0700 Organization: people's republic of SASE Sender: broudy@wpc-2.usc.edu Message-ID: <broudy-1109951439520001@wpc-2.usc.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <42u3qi$32l@its.hooked.net> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> In article <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu>, smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu wrote: > jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) wrote: > > >You know what I really hate? Mac and Windows owners claiming that their systems > >are the best when an Alpha, or a SGI blows them away!!! > > Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively > Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in > my basement garage has got you ALL beat. Well if nothing else, you sure don't have to worry about heating your house in the winter... ------------- broudy@mizar.usc.edu -- http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~broudy/ Warning: Severe Tire Damage /=/ /=/ /=/ /=/ /=/ /=/ /=/
From: zepeda@am51.wg.waii.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 19:40:16 GMT Organization: Western Geophysical, Div. of Western Atlas Int'l, Houston, TX Message-ID: <ZEPEDA.95Sep11144016@am51.wg.waii.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> In-reply-to: jescoent@ix.netcom.com's message of 11 Sep 1995 18:52:47 GMT Will you people *puh-lease* let this thread die? Or at least take it to the advocacy groups where this discussion belongs. We don't care what your *opinions* about the what best OS is. Most of you don't have a broad enough base of experience to even make rational judgements on this sort of subject anyway. This is cross-posted to too many groups. I want to know about Newtons, not what you think the best OS is. Now -- LET THIS THREAD DIE. Dan -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniel Paul Zepeda Western Geophysical Applied Technology Software - Testing e-mail: <daniel.zepeda@waii.com>
From: luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mail.app suggestion/wondering... Date: 11 Sep 1995 17:35:39 -0500 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9509111720.AA01998@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> Is there a way to tell Mail.app to respond to certain people in a certain format, ie if sending a message to 'soandso@somenext.somewhere' it would know to send NeXTMail and if the 'TO' is to someone who uses MIME then use MIME. I know about the 'reply in same format' option, but I'm thinking more of something which could be setup in a database somewhere (and if the program was unsure it could just default to ascii)... just a thought... TjL
From: Chad Ray McDaniel <chadm@sgi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: REMOVE COMP.SYS.NEWTON.MISC Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 22:30:51 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics Message-ID: <432dar$bu@fido.asd.sgi.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <kkeiser-1109952232240001@kkeiser.access.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please remove comp.sys.newton.misc from any followups. -- -chad
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:21:15 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-1109951421150001@ppp-02-uf-cs1.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu> <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi> In article <430vso$o8v@idefix.eunet.fi>, longjohn@jtmail.pp.fi wrote: @ In <42o7o1$oeq@news.fsu.edu>, "Harry A. Smith" <hasmith@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> writes: @ >I have used a Mac for almost 10 years now. I have found NOTHING I can't do @ >on it that I CAN do on a DOS/Windows based PC. I run REAL real @ @ Try taking mouseball away and use your mac then...;) bzzt!!! wrong answer... anything that absolutely needs a mouse on the mac needs it in Windows, and actually, I find myself more mouse-dependant in Windows because the menu functions are less accessible than in MacOS via the keyboard. -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:25:53 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-1109951425530001@ppp-02-uf-cs1.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950905205017.3928B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se>, Thomas Karlsen <sledge@algonet.se> wrote: @ The most irretating thing is when Microsoft says "The world have been @ waiting for a 32-bit operating system with true multitasking".. A truth in advertising law would mandate: "Microsoft has been struggling to write a user-friendly 32-bit OS with true multitasking for 5 years." IBM had one years ago... -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <laurenceDErK2r.B9M@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.c <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:04:02 GMT Sender: laurence@netcom17.netcom.com bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar) writes: > You state that "experts say Win95 sucks, but I have no experience with >it". I suppose you believe the Pope when he says that contraception >is evil. After all, the Pope is an expert. We can presume, arguendo, that the Pope has never had sex. Therefore, it would be hard to consider him an expert on contraception. > I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier >to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. >And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual >work, with actual applications, some of which are not available >on Macintosh. If your computer is a toy, your ridiculous statements >are probably appropriate. Sure, not as many APPLICATIONS are available for Mac as for Windows, but do you really use applications for which no ANALOGOUS application exists for a Mac? Don't get me wrong - I think Macs are toys, but they can EVENTUALLY ac- complish most things that most people need to do most of the time, albeit at twice the price. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Engineer (CNE) Oakland, California, USA | | Independent Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <laurenceDErKKv.C5s@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:14:55 GMT Sender: laurence@netcom17.netcom.com mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) writes: >] Not to mention that only a handful of Macs have slots. Need more >]functionality? Buy a new CPU! Or buy a $300 SCSI->Ethernet converter. >]What a BARGAIN! Who needs slots anyway? > I think Jawaid Bazyar should learn something about Macintosh systems, > his arguments only reveal his ignorance. Not only > macs come with expansion slots, they also have SCSI and Ethernet > on motherboard. Well, sure, most recent Macs come with slots, but they're nubus slots, not standard ISA or EISA slots. The new PCI slots are an improvement. And as far as having SCSI on the motherboard, what flavor? What if it's SCSI-1 and you want SCSI-2, SCSI-3, or Fast-Wide SCSI? Too bad, I guess. Or you can buy an expensive add-on card and waste the money you already spent on the built-in SCSI. >] Wasting time is buying a Mac to do X when a Mac can't do X because >]the software isn't available. > There are at least two programs on the market which let one use X on > the mac. I think the original poster meant "X" as a hypothetical unknown, not as shorthand for X Windows. >] Or waiting for a Mac to do any of a number >]of things (overpriced, underpowered. These words mean things). > Independent benchmarks show Macs to be faster then Intel machines. Which ones? Sure, an 8100 Power Mac is faster than an Intel 286, but in terms of raw bang for the buck, Intel machines have always been a MUCH better deal. With recent Mac price decreases and the first Mac clones coming out, this is changing, however. >]Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel >]processors, I'd be running _that_. > Intel CISC architecture is the past of the computing. All > PowerMacs are based on RISC CPU chip. And the Power PC chips that are used in Power PCs are a special flavor that will not run Windows NT 3.51. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Engineer (CNE) Oakland, California, USA | | Independent Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <laurenceDErKMF.CCx@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:15:51 GMT Sender: laurence@netcom17.netcom.com kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) writes: >Even saying that, I think I like Win95. technically speaking, it's WAY >behind OS/2. But the interface is pretty nice, and little things (like >3rd parties actually using the RMB functionality, and screen res. changing >on the fly) are nice too. The main reason to support Win 95? It's a means >to an end to get to WinNT 2 years from now. and Win NT IS technically >superior to OS/2, and scaleable to boot :-) But why wait? Windows NT is available now, and it's EXCELLENT. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Engineer (CNE) Oakland, California, USA | | Independent Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <laurenceDErKqJ.CI4@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> <42q247$t6u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:18:19 GMT Sender: laurence@netcom17.netcom.com jsart@ix.netcom.com (Joel Sartoris) writes: >In <DELHnJ.ELE@ecf.toronto.edu> kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP >ANDY) writes: >>[snip] >>Even saying that, I think I like Win95. technically speaking, it's WAY >>behind OS/2. But the interface is pretty nice, and little things (like >>3rd parties actually using the RMB functionality, and screen res. >>changing on the fly) are nice too. The main reason to support Win 95? >>It's a means to an end to get to WinNT 2 years from now. and Win NT IS >>technically superior to OS/2, and scaleable to boot :-) >Actually, I think you have it backwards. Win95 will be the means that >*ends* WinNT. I don't think so. Once the Win95 shell is released for Windows NT (a beta version is available now, free for the asking), Win95 will be history. I expect the two systems to merge into one (which will more closely resemble 95 on the surface and more closely resemble NT underneath, and whose name is anybody's guess) by late 1997. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Engineer (CNE) Oakland, California, USA | | Independent Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: mgilula@news.gate.net (Marshall Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PartTime MentalMidget Confession Date: 11 Sep 1995 19:38:06 -0400 Message-ID: <432h8u$1kn6@hopi.gate.net> I need some help in getting back into my internal hd and part of the difficulty is my "mentalMidget confessional" below: After losing my external 3.6hd and associated DAT archives due to some electrical accidents, I was faced with booting in single-user fashiong bsd -s to boot up with only my 400MB internal hd in my black color station. The mental midget part of my confession relateds to my discovered that I had put my entire NextLibrary on the external hd and created links to a dir on my internal hd as a way of getting more space. I ruefully discovered this because when I tried to boot up just from the internal hd my computer went all the way through the bootup sequence but hung just before reaching the GUI. Looking in /private/adm/messagthis because when I tried to boot up just from the internal hd my computer went all the way through the bootup sequence but hung just before reaching the GUI. Looking in /private/adm/messages showed me the following lines: mach; login window [216]: could not find Winding lines: mach; login window [216]: could not find WindowServer port! syslogd: going down on signal 15 -- ====================================== OK, it seems clear to me that by putting NextLibrary on the external hd, I really screwed up badly and I know how to fix things if I just, say, install NS 3.3 on another external hd, boot off that one, and approach my internal hd. However, is there any simpler way I might be missing, i.e. some small piece that I might be able to replace in my FUBAR NextLibrary on the internal hd that would let me get the GUI? any replies gratefully received. -73- Marshall Gilula mgilula@gate.net -- Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que mucho busca nada encuentra, pero mgilula@inca.gate.net el que nada busca mucho encuentra" Co-Founder, MiamiNUG ******standard disclaimers apply******** Carpe resurrectionem mortuorum
From: gmiller@inca.co.nz (Gaven Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 12 Sep 1995 00:05:58 GMT Organization: INCA Message-ID: <432it6$hr@inca01.inca.co.nz> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <DEnFDz.L3K@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> James W. Adams (jwa2n@galen.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote: > Just be happy you don't work for one of the many, many organizations > who suffer the widespread delusion that Microsoft is a standards ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > organization... ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I relay a quote from a person who dislikes Microsoft : Yes, they are. They're a SUBstandards organisation.
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adaptec2940,fdisk and 3rd SCSI drive-help!! Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:55:09 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <sams.810870263@shell1.best.com> References: <430m9b$e8v@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > However I'd >like to fdisk the Fireball (ID3) and create 1 DOS partition and 1 NS >partition. fdisk won't let me do that. It complains that the BIOS may be >disabled (it is not) and that NS won't be able to get accurate information >on the HD. So I went ahead and formatted is completely as a NS HD and it >worked fine. Then I formatted it as a DOS drive and it again worked fine. I >really don't want to allocate 1.2gigs to win95, so is there a solution to >partitioning this drive with one partition DOS and the other NS? The booter stashes away bios information about each dos partitioned drive so the kernel and things like disk and fdisk can be smart about finding things. Unfortunately this info is constructed in a weird manner by the bios and the kernel can't really guess how the bios will claim the disk is laid out (since PC bios' are brain dameaged and lie about these things). Anyway, the booter asked the bios about your third drive and the bios effectively replied "I ain't tellin." So fdisk can't fill in the fields in the partition table. Still you may not be SOL. Try moving the drive to make it the second one. I bet the bios will then give up the goods on the drive and you will probably be able to partition it. Then when you move it back to the third drive, the kernel (I think) will only use the absolute numbers from the partition table to find the NS partition. It should work just fine, since NS only needs the bios numbers to boot from a disk or to create dos partitions. cheers, -sam
From: C_Reifenrath@TOSCHIBO.ruhr.de (Clemens Reifenrath) Subject: Re: NUGGET CONTROVERSY Message-ID: <wVCtKMDD4aUz1@tsb049.toschibo.ruhr.de> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:27:54 CET Organization: ti amo *Sebastiana* Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> LPeters@microsoft.com (L.Peters) wrote: > Okay, first of all, DON'T press these keys [...] > > And YES Nugget will appear in all his glory. And by the way, DO NOT This might be a Trojan horse, so *beware* ! Clemens
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 12 Sep 1995 01:35:02 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <432o46$r1a@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I don't know about anyone else but I think this DOES NOT BELONG ON comp.sys.next.misc. Please remove it from your followups. --- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Another convert to the Z-Shell MIME & NeXTMail OK but remember I'm using PPP, so big email = trouble "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 12 Sep 1995 00:08:40 -0400 Organization: Division of Academic Computing, Northeastern University, Boston, MA. USA Message-ID: <433148$k47@lynx.dac.neu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDErKKv.C5s@netcom.com> Andrew Laurence <laurence@netcom.com> wrote: ]mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) writes: ] ]>] Not to mention that only a handful of Macs have slots. Need more ]>]functionality? Buy a new CPU! Or buy a $300 SCSI->Ethernet converter. ]>]What a BARGAIN! Who needs slots anyway? ] ]> I think Jawaid Bazyar should learn something about Macintosh systems, ]> his arguments only reveal his ignorance. Not only ]> macs come with expansion slots, they also have SCSI and Ethernet ]> on motherboard. ] ]Well, sure, most recent Macs come with slots, but they're nubus slots, ]not standard ISA or EISA slots. NuBus is no less standard then ISA/EISA. ] The new PCI slots are an improvement. And ]as far as having SCSI on the motherboard, what flavor? What if it's SCSI-1 ]and you want SCSI-2, SCSI-3, or Fast-Wide SCSI? Too bad, I guess. Or you ]can buy an expensive add-on card and waste the money you already spent on ]the built-in SCSI. Macs come with SCSI-2 on board. ]>] Wasting time is buying a Mac to do X when a Mac can't do X because ]>]the software isn't available. ] ]> There are at least two programs on the market which let one use X on ]> the mac. ] ]I think the original poster meant "X" as a hypothetical unknown, not as ]shorthand for X Windows. Oh, really ? So, name any task you can accomplish with PC and can not with Mac ! Well ? ;-) ]>] Or waiting for a Mac to do any of a number ]>]of things (overpriced, underpowered. These words mean things). ] ]> Independent benchmarks show Macs to be faster then Intel machines. ] ]Which ones? Sure, an 8100 Power Mac is faster than an Intel 286, but in ]terms of raw bang for the buck, Intel machines have always been a MUCH ]better deal. No, this is incorrect. PowerMacs were compared with Pentiums with similar frequency, amount of RAM and so on. ]With recent Mac price decreases and the first Mac clones ]coming out, this is changing, however. ] ]>]Had Apple done the sensible thing and ported MacOS to run on Intel ]>]processors, I'd be running _that_. ] ]> Intel CISC architecture is the past of the computing. All ]> PowerMacs are based on RISC CPU chip. ] ]And the Power PC chips that are used in Power PCs are a special flavor ]that will not run Windows NT 3.51. They also will not run VMS, MVS and CP/M. So what ?
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: access denied at ftp.cs.orst.edu Date: 12 Sep 1995 04:11:24 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <43319c$919@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Do more people have the problem that lot's of directories are not accessable because the world-protection is only r and not r-x? Willem
From: "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: NUGGET CONTROVERSY Date: 12 Sep 1995 04:55:54 GMT Organization: The Human Race, Inc. Message-ID: <4333sq$88j@news.corpcomm.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> <wVCtKMDD4aUz1@tsb049.toschibo.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: C_Reifenrath@TOSCHIBO.ruhr.de C_Reifenrath@TOSCHIBO.ruhr.de (Clemens Reifenrath) wrote: >LPeters@microsoft.com (L.Peters) wrote: > >> Okay, first of all, DON'T press these keys [...] >> >> And YES Nugget will appear in all his glory. And by the way, DO NOT > >This might be a Trojan horse, so *beware* ! > > Clemens > I hope this is a joke (you didn't put in any emoticons). If not, please do NOT spread rumors about virus' and such. It is just another easter egg. If it is a joke, I get it. -Steve
From: aathan@squish.next.com (Andrew Athan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 12 Sep 1995 04:20:14 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <4331pu$krv@news.next.com> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On a very lightly loaded P90 machine, the program below shows: $ repeat 10 a.out 810878724 810878727 19998@14527 999 999.335462 810878727 810878730 10031@47915 989 989.926985 810878730 810878733 10031@90096 993 993.337331 810878733 810878736 9992@2942 987 987.978293 810878808 810878811 10031@1097 995 995.970797 810878811 810878814 10031@39683 995 995.206158 810878814 810878817 10031@78340 995 995.956032 810878817 810878820 9993@3462 996 996.940557 810878820 810878823 10031@5851 995 995.226337 810878783 810878785 10031@62727 992 992.970401 I think the odds are the clock resolution is 1000 msec. aca //Determine clock resolution #include <sys/time.h> #define MAX 100000 main(int n,char **p) { static union foobar { struct timeval x;unsigned long long y;} foo[MAX]; int count,nonZero,maxOffset; unsigned long max; unsigned long total; for(count=0;count<MAX;++count) gettimeofday(&foo[count].x,NULL); //tz ignored anyway printf("%ld %ld\n",foo[0].x.tv_sec,foo[MAX-1].x.tv_sec); for(count=0;count<MAX;++count) foo[count].y=(((unsigned long long)foo[count].x.tv_sec)*((unsigned long long)1000000))+((unsigned long long)foo[count].x.tv_usec); for(nonZero=0,total=max=count=0;count<MAX-1;++count){ if((foo[count].y=foo[count+1].y-foo[count].y)>max) max=foo[count].y,maxOffset=count; if(foo[count].y!=0) total+=foo[count].y,++nonZero; if(n>1) printf("%ld\n",(long)foo[count].y); } printf("%ld@%d %ld %lf\n",max,maxOffset,total/nonZero,((double)total)/nonZero); } perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: > Hello all! I have a question regarding the resolution of timers. The man > [STUFF DELETED] > My result is not very helpful. Anybody know how to go about determing the > resoultion of the clock? Any insight greatly appreciated! > - Steve > -- > ============================================================== > Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu > Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP > Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 > NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: p Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 12 Sep 1995 04:44:33 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <43337h$krv@news.next.com> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <4331pu$krv@news.next.com> btw, here's the output from a slightly enhanced version of the code I sent in my previous post. The hist[#]=# lines show the # of non zero results in a histogram of the difference (in msec) between two consecutive calls to gettimeofday(). Interesting. Diff in second fields (msec's ignored): 2 Avg latency: 27.800508 Max is 19999 @ 14648 Non zero avg latency: 1013 1013.127915 hist[1]=2462 hist[2]=4 hist[3]=1 hist[9990]=157 hist[9991]=108 hist[9992]=2 hist[9997]=2 hist[9998]=3 hist[10030]=3 hist[10031]=1 hist[19999]=1 /tmp:a.out Diff in second fields (msec's ignored): 2 Avg latency: 27.102631 Max is 10031 @ 25590 Non zero avg latency: 995 995.678178 hist[1]=2450 hist[3]=1 hist[9990]=150 hist[9991]=111 hist[10008]=1 hist[10030]=5 hist[10031]=4
From: cygnus@halcyon.com (Wayne Hixson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 05:05:21 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> On Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:54:33 -0800, catambay@aol.com (Bill the Cat) wrote: >In article <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net>, bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid >Bazyar) wrote: > >> me (jdoe@somewhere.edu) wrote: >> >> : Market share and performance are frequently unrelated in this world, >> : particularly in the case of OS's. It is the consensus of most experts >> : that OS/2 Warp and Mac OS are definitely superior operating systems to >> : Win95. But Win95 still gains market share because certain people are >> : stupid enough to believe Microsloth's advertising hype and go out and buy >> : it. If we actually had consumers making RATIONAL decisions like the >> : market system requires then we wouldn't have this problem (fortunately >> : it's not MY problem...I don't use Win95!) 'Nuf said. >> > >> I made a "RATIONAL" decision to buy Win '95. My PC is much easier >> to set up, much simpler to use, and is very speedy with my hardware. > >Ha! That does not sound very _rational_ to me. Even PC users have >admitted that PC's are _not_ easy to setup, and in comparison to Macs, >they don't even come close. In fact, the friends I know who went the PC >route now let their computers sit their unused simply because they got >tired of dealing with the problems. Why do you think that a PC is easier >to setup? Simpler to use? > >> And I do things on it that CANNOT BE DONE ON A MAC. I do actual >> work, with actual applications, some of which are not available >> on Macintosh. > >Such as? The majority of people at our company use Macs, and do actual >work. Your opinion sounds irrationally weighted, and you haven't provided >anything to backup your opinions. I think you're just too embarassed to >go "Moo!" and admit you have simply gone with the herd rather than truly >making the right choice. > PMFJI, but Networking and data bases are much stronger for the PC than the Mac. Also, hardware is more widely available and the architecture is not closed like the Mac. Purchase costs continue to be lower, although not as much as earlier. Wayne Hixson cygnus@halcyon.com
From: alokkher@ix.netcom.com (Alok R. Kher ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Need a C++ Mac. programmer Date: 12 Sep 1995 06:35:12 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4339n0$cp6@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> Alpha Innotech Corp. is currently looking for a C++ Mac. programmer. Exposure to Windows programming is desirable. Candidate should have experience developing GUI. The work will consist of porting a Windows software written in Borland C++ 4.0 to Mac. using a native Mac. C/C++ compiler such as Code Warrior or Semantech C++. In future the programmer will be involved in Mac./Windows cross platform development. We are a small rapidly growing company. We provide image acquisition and analysis solutions for the life science and semiconductor market place. Please send your resumes to Alok R. Kher Alpha Innotech Corp. 14743 Catalina Street, San Leandro, CA 94577 Fax: (510)483-3227 e-mail: AlokKher@ix.netcom.com
From: genoud@droopy.imag.fr (Philippe Genoud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OOCNS' 95 Call For Participation Date: 12 Sep 1995 10:38:47 GMT Organization: Grenoble University (FRANCE) Distribution: world Message-ID: <433nvn$r7u@imag.imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Object Oriented Computing - Scientific Computing SECOND CIRCULAR Second Multi-disciplinary International Workshop on O B J E C T - O R I E N T E D C O M P U T I N G I N T H E N A T U R A L S C I E N C E S Grenoble, France November 21-24, 1995 With Support of IMAG (Informatique Mathematiques Appliquees,Grenoble, France) and EMBL (European Molecular Biology Laboratory,Heidelberg, Germany) Contact: OOCNS95@EMBL-Heidelberg.de or Jacques Lemordant (OOCNS'95) ViS-GRAVIR-IMAG Phone: +33-76-51-44-98 BP 43, 38041 Grenoble Fax: +33-76-63-84-23 Cedex 9, France Email: lemordan@imag.fr (NeXT-mail) or Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49-6221-387524 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49-6221-387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany E-Mail: Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (MIME/NeXT-mail) PURPOSE ======= This workshop will bring together computer scientists and experts from different fields in the natural sciences involved or interested in Object-Oriented Computing. The latest languages and environments will be presented, visions and requests for the next generation of scientific computing environments will be addressed. MOTIVATION ========== Most of the scientific computing being done all over the world today uses the classic resources made available during the heyday of mainframe computers and the introduction of relatively simple graphical user interfaces (X11). However, the amount of data being processed has exploded over the past decade, straining the capabilities of standard methods and program packages. The natural scientist can no longer flexibly analyze the available data because only specialized solutions to particular problems are available - she/he spends much of her/his time worrying about how to get to a particular goal rather than what it means to have attained it. The new generations of object-oriented (OO) computer languages and systems promise to free the users from much of this outdated computational burden but they are being developed mainly with commercial applications in mind. Now that the vendors of OO technology are beginning to cooperate (e.g. OpenStep, CORBA) and/or are offering the same systems on many hardware platforms (e.g. NEXTSTEP on Intel PC's and Sun and HP workstations), the time has come to focus on what OUR needs are and how they might be implemented in the near future on available systems. An exchange of information with the academic and commercial developers of OO systems is needed. Because theoretical discussions and academic exercises are unlikely to bear fruits on time scales of interest to the active researcher, this conference has as its underlying goal the discussion and formulation of concrete measures which might enable us to begin using the fruits of OO software-technology soon. Finally, this conference is intended to provide a forum in which current OOP projects - both scientific and commercial -- can be displayed, discussed, and compared in the hopes that we might all profit from the experience of others. PRELIMINARY TOPICS ================== The following computer science topics will be covered: o Object-oriented languages o Object-oriented data bases and knowledge representation o Object-oriented environments o Natural programming (visual,scripts, ...) o Design patterns The following natural science fields will be covered: o Physics o Astrophysics o Ecology o Chemistry o Molecular Biology o Earth sciences Working scientists from a wide variety of fields (astronomy, agriculture, computer science, engineering geology, high-energy physics, mathematics, molecular biology and veterinary epidemiology) met last year at OOCNS'94 to share their experiences and discuss why and how object orientation is beneficial for solving their problems. Among others topics , the handling of large amount of complex computer data, the choice of the right OO language and the interactive ways to operate on data where discussed. Besides case studies, OOCNS'95 will be a place to discuss new environment such as OpenStep, new languages such as Dylan and facilities offered by OO databases. Information on OOCNS'94 (Report on the conference) can be found on : <http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/Conferences/OOCNS94/ WORKSHOP FORMAT =============== In order to promote discussion, each day will start with a few invited talks (40min) and a small number of contributed talks (20min), followed by panel discussions. The afternoons will be filled with time for working groups, seminars, poster sessions, demonstrations, and a vendor fair. Interested speakers are asked to send an extended abstract with up to 300 words including a short bibliography by September 15, 1995 via email to OOCNS95@imag.fr A LaTeX template will be available via anonymous ftp from <ftp://ftp.imag.fr/pub/vis/OOCNS95/abstract_template.tex or <ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Events/OOCNS-95/abstract_template.tex The number of talks is restricted by time limitation. Authors will be notified of acceptance by July 15, 1995 for abstract received by June 30, 1995 or by September 30, 1995 for abstract received by September 15, 1995. A preliminary program will be distributed via a public electronic bulletin. We are planning to publish a selection of articles after the workshop and are currently in contact with publishers. The list of (tentatively) invited speakers includes: L. Buisson (Grenoble, F) M. Johnson (Boston, USA) D. Coyle (Heidelberg, D) C. Roche (Chambery,F) S. Garfinkel (Boston, USA) A. Stone (Albuquerque, USA) DATE AND LOCATION ================== The workshop will take place at the new Jean Kuntzmann house on the campus of the University of Grenoble. The Jean Kuntzmann house belongs to the IMAG Institute. Location: Maison Jean Kuntzmann, University Joseph Fourier, Grenoble, France Date: November 21 - 24, 1995 ORGANIZATION ============ The workshop is organized by the IMAG Institute at the Jean Kuntzmann House and by the European Molecular Biology Laboratory (Heidelberg, Germany) Jacques Lemordant (IMAG) <Jacques.lemordant@imag.fr> Georg Tuparev (EMBL) <tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de> Members of the organizing committee are: P. Genoud (IMAG, Grenoble, France) G. Hoffleit (Univ. Heidelberg, Germany) G. Kuntz (IMAG, Grenoble, France). Members of the program committee are: L. Buisson (Grenoble, France) F. Hessman (Gottingen, Germany) D. Coyle (MPI furKernphysik, Heidelberg, Germany) S. Garfinkel (Boston, USA) P. Dell (Boston University, MA, USA) C. Roche (Chambery, France) M. Johnson (MIT, Boston, MA,USA) A. Stone (Albuquerque,NM, USA) REGISTRATION AND FEES ===================== The workshop is open to all researchers. All participants planning to attend the workshop are requested to fill in the registration form either using: 1. Automatic WWW registration form: <http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/Conferences/OOCNS95/ or 2. the PostScript template <ftp://ftp.imag.fr/pub/vis/OOCNS95/registration_form.ps or 3. the ascii form <ftp://ftp.imag.fr/pub/vis/OOCNS95/registration_form.txt or 4. the form at the end of this announcement If you register with 2. or 3. or 4., return the form by fax, mail or email to: Jacques Lemordant (OOCNS'95) ViS-GRAVIR-IMAG BP 43, 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9 France Email: OOCNS95@imag.fr Phone: +33-76-51-44-98 Fax: +33-76-63-84-23 Fees (FF = French Franc): FF 350,- students; (identification will be required at registration!) FF 700,- academic FF 1200,- other FF 1800,- commercial or to be negotiated on a personal basis. In case you are interested to give a presentation of a commercial product, please call +33-76-51-44-98 These fees are necessary in order to cover printing costs (abstract volume, the program of the conference, coffee during the breaks and the travel expenses of invited speakers). Payment should be made via Bank transfer to: Bank: TPGrenoble Bank code: 10071 Position: 38000 Account No: 00003000142 Bank Identification key : 40 Reference: OOCNS95 Name and address of the bank: Tresorerie Generale de l'Isere 8 rue de Belgrade 38022 Grenoble cedex France Name and address of the account's owner: Universite Joseph Fourier 1.Agent Comptable BP 53, 38041 Grenoble cedex 9, France It is important to include the OOCNS95 Reference in the payment as comment. Sorry: The university cannot handle credit cards. ADDRESSES AND ACCESS TO WORKSHOP INFORMATION ============================================ WWW: <http://OOCNS95.imag.fr/visHome/OOCNS95 or <http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/Conferences/OOCNS95 FTP: <ftp://ftp.imag.fr/pub/vis/OOCNS95 or <ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Events/OOCNS95 Email: OOCNS95@imag.fr or OOCNS95@EMBL-Heidelberg.de DEADLINES ========= Note: The most recent information can always be found on any of the conference WWW or FTP servers. Submit Title: September 30, 1995 Submit Abstracts: October 15, 1995 Final Registration and Payment: October 25, 1995 _____________________________________________________________________________ GENERAL INFORMATION ON OOCNS'95 - ACCESS and LOCATION: The workshop will be held in Grenoble, France. Grenoble is located in the French Alps. You can easily come to Grenoble by plane: if you land in Lyon-Satolas, take a direct bus to Grenoble (schedules available from SatoBus (33) 72 22 72 21); from Paris or Geneva, you will have to take a train (3 hours from Paris and 1 hour from Geneva). The Workshop location on the campus of the University Joseph Fourier is connected by a direct tram to the train/Satobus station (20mn) and to downtown Grenoble (15mn). - HOTEL INFORMATION 1- Hotel Terminus 10 place de la Gare 38000 Grenoble Tel: (33) 76 87 24 33 Fax: (33) 76 50 38 28 Single rooms between 200 and 450 FF 2- Hotel des Alpes 45 avenue Felix Viallet 38000 Grenoble Tel: (33) 76 87 00 71 Fax: (33) 76 56 95 45 Single rooms between 220 and 280 FF 3- Hotel Bastille 25 avenue Felix Viallet 38000 Grenoble Tel: (33) 76 43 10 27 Fax: (33) 76 87 52 69 Single rooms: 220 FF 4- Hotel Bristol 11 avenue Felix Viallet 38000 Grenoble Tel: (33) 76 46 11 18 Fax: (33) 76 87 73 55 Single rooms between 170 and 230 FF All the indicated hotels are very close to the station. Information on downtown hotels can be obtained on request from the local tourist information - POSSIBLE EXCURSIONS If you decide to stay for a while in Grenoble, you ought to know that several ski resorts are opened at the end of november. In Grenoble, you will also find a national museum and lots to do; you can always get more information from the Tourist Office of Grenoble: Tel. (33) 76 54 34 36, Fax. (33) 76 51 28 69. ________________________________________________________________________________ REGISTRATION O B J E C T - O R I E N T E D C O M P U T I N G I N T H E N A T U R A L S C I E N C E S Grenoble, France 21 - 24 November, 1995 ________________________________________________________________________________ Title/Surname ________________________ First Name ______________________________ Affiliation ____________________________________________________________________ Mailing address (please fill in completely) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Phone _________________________________ Fax ____________________________________ Email __________________________________________________________________________ Have you send an abstract for a 20-minute contributed talk? o yes o no If yes, title __________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Will you want to give a software demo ? o yes o no If yes, hardware platform/operating system ____________ /_______________ Fees (FF = French Franc): o FF 350,- students; (identification will be required at registration!) o FF 700,- academic o FF 1200,- other o FF 1800,- commercial Date of bank transfer : ___/___/___ Date ________________________________ Signature ________________________________
From: Thomas Karlsen <sledge@algonet.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Ger Microsoft Mutor? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 13:12:15 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950912130041.1863B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> This mail will be in Swedish and english: Hej, Jag tankte bara formedla en liten lustifikation som jag upptakte nar jag laste Mircosofts introduktion till Windows95 (diskett versionen). Pa sidan 40 (Installera program som startas samtidigt med windows) sa forekommer en del skarmdumpar, antagligen fran datorer anvanda av Microsoft anstallda. Pa den forsta bilden visas filstruktur i utforskaren. Mappen tredje nedifran har det mystiska namnet "MUTOR". Det kan fa den mest MS venliga att rynka lite pa 0gonbrynen, eller?? Thomas Karlsen (mappen upptacktes av Daniel Lindskog, IT-avd pa Liber). ----- english ---- Hello, I just thougth that you want to hear about a funny thing I discovered while reading the Introduction manual for Windows95 (The Swedish diskversion only, but english might likes this even is they can't actually read our manuals in Sweden). On page 40 there are some screendumps of the file structure in the Discoverer (Filemanager). On the third folder from bottom the name on it is "MUTOR" (the Swedish word for BRIBES). Now this makes even the most friendly MS freak to react a bit, doesn't it? /Thomas (Sorry for the bad translation of the swedish letter, but I hope the english part did understand anyway).
From: newberry@news-server.engin.umich.edu (byron lee newberry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStations won't boot! Date: 12 Sep 1995 12:25:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <433u6s$bmk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Hello, I am the administrator (in title only, I have little experience) of a network of 5 NeXTstations (old NeXT hardware). This weekend something happened and I found the network locked up when I came in Monday. I tried to reboot each system (power-down from login screen) and it worked for 3 of the 5. However, on 2 of the machines, no error messages are given, but they simply hang after saying "reboot complete". One of the two hung computers then gives a message about "NFS server not responding" and then later another message about "non-existant user dump". These messages may be caused by the fact that the other hung computer is the NetInfo Server. Oddly enough the other 3 computers are fine and we can even access the files on the 2 hung computers by cd /Net. Any ideas? I really do not know what to try next! From reading in the Administration manual, it seems that the trouble is occurs at the point "loginwindow" should be ran by the "init" program. Are their other diagnostics I could use to try to track down the trouble. All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Byron Newberry newberry@engin.umich.edu
From: rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Old Archive Sites Date: 12 Sep 1995 12:30:25 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <433uh1$ne7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> After a recent hard drive crash a limited recovery due to read errors on my most recent backup tapes, I'm missing a couple of programs that I would like to get back. Does the Purdue archive that used to be a Sonata.cc and Nova.cc exist somewhere? I'm running NeXTstep 3.0 on black hardware and the current sites seem to be more focused on 3.3 fat or NI Apps. Any info appreciated. Thanks... -- .. Tim Rhodes ..................... http://rhodes.es.vt.edu/~rhodes .. .. Sr Systems Engineer, Virginia Tech ........... Tim.Rhodes@vt.edu ..
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: access denied at ftp.cs.orst.edu Date: 12 Sep 1995 12:42:16 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <433v78$pq8@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <43319c$919@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> In article <43319c$919@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) writes: > > Do more people have the problem that lot's of directories are not > accessable because the world-protection is only r and not r-x? > > Willem Yes, I can second that. Seems they are reorganizing their archive. Right now I have not found a way to access NeXT stuff at all.... -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: ilytting@datashopper.dk (Isak Sebastian Lytting) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 12 Sep 1995 14:26:43 +0200 Organization: Wellspring, Inc. Sender: ilytting@zeus.datashopper.dk Message-ID: <MvPVwUYrGxxS084yn@datashopper.dk> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42o4l7$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42tf3n$das_001@ddraper.tiac.net> <430q77$6o3@news.udel.edu> In article <430q77$6o3@news.udel.edu>, ayis@esg.com wrote: > As a side note Microsoft plans to sell add on packages for 95 > for extra features which they removed at the last minute from > the beta. They were always planning to sell the Plus package you are referring to as a separate product. This is because the applications in the Plus package won't run in 4 MB, which MS had promised Win95 would be able to do. The Plus package is quite cheap, by the way. -- Isak Lytting ilytting@datashopper.dk 2:238/197.13 PGP fingerprint: FB 05 FB A6 34 F7 26 00 2F 81 AE EA B5 72 B3 15
From: David Mantripp <dmantripp@esys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 13:13:14 GMT Organization: ESYS (European Systems) Ltd Message-ID: <810911594.2270@dave.esys.co.uk> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42tm9t$j0r@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could anybody still taking part in this pathetic squabble please check the list of Newsgroups you are posting to, and remove inappropriate ones. These include various platforms which run neither MacOS nor Windows (eg SGI, Newton, Amiga...). In fact could you just delete them all, and squabble on e-mail. The vast majority of people who just want to get on and use newsgroups for civilised exchange of information will be most grateful to you. And if you're that intent on getting stuck in to pointless, unwinnable argiments, why not try Religion ?
From: skoh@ix.netcom.com (SAMUEL KOH) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Solaris & SunOS Date: 11 Sep 1995 04:36:05 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <430ebl$9ms@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Sorry, don't know if this is the right newsgroup... being new to SUN... very new actually. I need to buy an accounting package that runs on SunOS or Solaris... are there any other platforms that run these OS besides Sun? Also, anyone know a good place to buy Sun Products? I live in Los Angeles. Thanks Samuel please reply by email.
From: shay@cs.uwa.edu.au (Shay Telfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:36:31 +0800 Organization: Black Sun Systems Message-ID: <shay-1109951236310001@huntsman.cs.uwa.oz.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <42oajq$3q8@itchy.itsnet.com> In article <42oajq$3q8@itchy.itsnet.com>, jack@itsnet.com (Jack Hudler) wrote: > egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: > > > >> > >> > >This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? > > > > Well said. That'd be where Betamax is technically superior and gets used by all the professionals, TV stations etc, and the rest of us bought VHS? Have fun, Shay -- =========================== Shay Telfer ============================ Perth, Western Australia. Technomancer "He's probably one of those Opinions for hire. [POQ] people who thinks that shay@cs.uwa.edu.au Elvis is dead" Fox Mulder
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: using Pine & Mail.app together Date: 12 Sep 1995 16:13:42 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University, CSIS Dept. Message-ID: <434bjm$qhm@news.it.gvsu.edu> I've written a document and some scripts to help with using and linking Pine and Mail.app together. It's been used here at the university for a year, so there've been plenty of tests and no problems (so far). You can get it at: ftp://ftp.csis.gvsu.edu/pub/next/local/Mail.rtfd.compressed -- Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME> Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <laurenceDEsvGq.Hyy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDErKKv.C5s@netcom.com> <433148$k47@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 16:07:38 GMT Sender: laurence@netcom21.netcom.com mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) writes: >]Well, sure, most recent Macs come with slots, but they're nubus slots, >]not standard ISA or EISA slots. > NuBus is no less standard then ISA/EISA. B.S. NuBus exists on Apple brand machines only. That's machines from EXACTLY ONE manufacturer. >] The new PCI slots are an improvement. And >]as far as having SCSI on the motherboard, what flavor? What if it's SCSI-1 >]and you want SCSI-2, SCSI-3, or Fast-Wide SCSI? Too bad, I guess. Or you >]can buy an expensive add-on card and waste the money you already spent on >]the built-in SCSI. > Macs come with SCSI-2 on board. That's nice. What if you want SCSI-3 or any of the other flavors I mentioned? You just paid for something you don't want. >]>] Wasting time is buying a Mac to do X when a Mac can't do X because >]>]the software isn't available. >] >]> There are at least two programs on the market which let one use X on >]> the mac. >] >]I think the original poster meant "X" as a hypothetical unknown, not as >]shorthand for X Windows. > Oh, really ? So, name any task you can accomplish with PC and can not > with Mac ! Well ? ;-) Two things. (1) Preemptive multitasking, and (2) running a server-based NOS such as NetWare and Windows NT. >]>] Or waiting for a Mac to do any of a number >]>]of things (overpriced, underpowered. These words mean things). >] >]> Independent benchmarks show Macs to be faster then Intel machines. >] >]Which ones? Sure, an 8100 Power Mac is faster than an Intel 286, but in >]terms of raw bang for the buck, Intel machines have always been a MUCH >]better deal. > No, this is incorrect. PowerMacs were compared with Pentiums with > similar frequency, amount of RAM and so on. They still cost more. It's no longer obscenely more, but still more. And I'm not comfortable with having to buy my hardware from one company. >]And the Power PC chips that are used in Power PCs are a special flavor >]that will not run Windows NT 3.51. > They also will not run VMS, MVS and CP/M. So what ? So what? It's an example of stupid closed architecture. Apple wanted to make sure that no one could run someone else's operating system on their hardware. Apple's arrogance knows no bounds. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Engineer (CNE) Oakland, California, USA | | Independent Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: mjantti@aton.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help compiling web2c-6.1 on NeXT 3.2: doesn't configure properly Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Sep 1995 16:38:59 GMT Organization: Abo Akademi University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Sep12193859@aton.abo.fi> Hi -- the configure script in web2c doesn't seem to run properly. I have followed te advice given in web2c.next.help, and used the patch in web2c.kpathsea-2.6.help (2.4 wasn't on CTAN). In the top-level configure script, the I get the output #Start creating ./config.status creating Makefile Unrecognized command: \@^ac_include ../make/paths.make@r ../make/paths.make creating c-auto.h #End The problem seems to be with the sed commands defined below near the end of the configure script. I can't figure out what is going wrong. # Replace lines of the form ac_include foo with the contents of foo: # first, from the ac_include lines construct a list of sed # commands to remove them, and include the files; then run sed. # Have to use sed because old (Ultrix, SunOS) awk does not support # getline or system. (Anyway, configure scripts aren't supposed to use awk.) # Use \@...@<cmd> form of sed address because the filename may contain /. # Can't use only one -e and commands {dr foo} because foo has to be last. # Use @e initially instead of -e because GNU echo has a -e option. # USe `X' to mean a bunch of backslashes; this is for FreeBSD. file_substs=`sed -n \ "/^ac_include/s%ac_include[ ]*\(.*\)%@e 'X@^& \1' -e 'X@^&@d'%p" \ $ac_given_srcdir/${ac_file}.in` if test -n "$file_substs"; then # Change @e back to -e and X@^ to \@^. file_subst_cmd="sed `echo $file_substs \ | sed -e 's/@e/-e/g' -e 's/X@^/\\\\\@^/g'`" else # If no substitutions and hence no sed commands, don't choke. file_subst_cmd=cat fi # cd into the srcdir because the files being included more or less # must be part of the distribution. I can't find any way to do # variable substitution in the sed commands (so the user could have, # e.g., $top_srcdir in their ac_include line). (cd $ac_given_srcdir && eval $file_subst_cmd ${ac_file}.in) \ | sed -e "$ac_comsub -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti/welcome.html | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-0-718 727 (Home) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office) | 358-21-2654 677 (Fax)
From: shay@cs.uwa.edu.au (Shay Telfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:23:51 +0800 Organization: Black Sun Systems Message-ID: <shay-1109951423510001@huntsman.cs.uwa.oz.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ngs2$oob@blackice.winternet.com> <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In article <42sqga$i8b@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Jeff Read <jread@attila.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > You know what? I hate it when Mac-supremacists come on here and SLAM Windows and > Windows 95. Even a well-equipped Power Mac can be just as frustrating and just as > difficult and just as crash-prone as a Windows PC. And the thing that Windows 95 has > that Mac OS will never have? A command line. Yes, there's a learning curve, but if > you learn the system, COPY C:\WINWORD\DOCS\*.* A: sounds a lot faster and easier > than hunting for the Microsoft Word folder, then hunting for the Documents folder, > then using the Control key to cumulatively select all the files, and then moving Sorry, you don't have to cumulatively select all the files, you just drag the whole folder. And you don't have to hunt for the MS Word folder, because you can use Find File to do it. (Of course, if you move the Word folder, it'll probably break, because half the time MS software relies on pathnames!!) Have fun, Shay (Hopefully you won't find any MS Apps on the disk anyway...) -- =========================== Shay Telfer ============================ Perth, Western Australia. Technomancer "He's probably one of those Opinions for hire. [POQ] people who thinks that shay@cs.uwa.edu.au Elvis is dead" Fox Mulder
From: jac@mariana.tcs.com (Gordon Jacobs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Crashes on Cube w/3.0 Date: 12 Sep 1995 12:28:41 -0700 Organization: TCSI Sender: Gordon Jacobs Message-ID: <434n19$8e3@mariana.tcs.com> Summary: crash I just dusted off a NeXT 040 Cube w/64Mb RAM, running 2.0 and performed an upgrade to 3.0 from CD-ROM. The upgrade seemed to go fine, until it was done and asked to re-boot. During that process there was a crash, but it came up OK when I re-booted again... The only other odd thing was that is showed 40MB RAM during the bootup (could some of my RAM have died?) Afterwards, the cube seemed to run OK, and I installed a few new programs. But now, it is sporadically crashing by freezing up totally, until the plug is pulled! Has anyone experienced similar behaviour? Is this a problem with 3.0 on the cube that requires a later version of the OS? Is there a simple means for testing the RAM to make sure it is OK? Any suggestions appreciated, GJ jac@tcs.com
From: alokkher@ix.netcom.com (Alok R. Kher ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re(apologies): Need a C++ Mac. programmer Date: 12 Sep 1995 21:28:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <434u1g$h84@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> <4339n0$cp6@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Let me apologise for my previous mail titled "Need a C++ Mac. programmer." I intended to post this mail only to the newsgroup "comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc". I am new to my netcom-netcruiser browser for internet. I used the "follow-up" feature so I do not need to manually type the news group address. I changed the subject, but quite stupidly did not notice the long address list that followed the address of the news group I was accessing at that time (comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc). Hence I ended up posting the mail to a large number of irrelavant news groups. Please accept my apologies. I would be more careful in future. Sincerely, Alok R. Kher p.s. if anyone has the autority to delete my previous posting please do so.
From: munz@wordperfect.com (Mark Munz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 15:19:14 -0600 Organization: Novell, Inc. Message-ID: <munz-1209951519140001@pcmmunz.orem.novell.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> In article <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com>, cygnus@halcyon.com (Wayne Hixson) wrote: > PMFJI, but Networking and data bases are much stronger for the PC than > the Mac. Also, hardware is more widely available and the architecture > is not closed like the Mac. Purchase costs continue to be lower, > although not as much as earlier. > > Wayne Hixson > cygnus@halcyon.com The Macintosh has strong support for both Networking and databases. In the networking area, it has AppleShare (if you need a Mac as both Server and Client) or you can go NetWare (Mac client, but currently no Mac server). In the database arena, you can go with simple flat file like FileMaker Pro or First 4D. Or truly relational like FoxBase and 4th Dimension. True, the Macintosh doesn't provide you with 50 crappy database programs or 40 different networking schemes, but it provides you with good ones. The Macintosh architecture hasn't been closed in quite some time. The Mac has had slots for almost 10 years now (and that's almost 10 years without the headaches associated with adding cards to PC's). I don't know if I can agree with your purchase cost argument. It is important to compare like machines. Yes, you can get a PC for under $1000 - but not with enough memory, disk space or a CD-ROM. When you start adding the required necessities of today's machines - the price comparison puts Mac neck in neck with today's PC. Finally, any possible arguments for this will be gone in a few more months. Once we have CHRP machines, we'll have clonable machines that run the Macintosh OS. Just my $0.02. Mark Munz
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 12 Sep 1995 17:54:29 -0400 Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina Message-ID: <dcl.810942519@mercury> References: <dcl.810585858@mercury> <43243u$1sk@clarknet.clark.net> chin@clark.net (Chin) writes: >Actually, I find it easier to deal with NEXTSTEP than Linux. NEXTSTEP >has good or great support for certain new high end PC hardware. When >buying a new machine, supporting NEXTSTEP is pretty easy. Getting >NEXTSTEP to work well on older machines or machines purchased >for DOS/Windows is much harder. Configuration is also easier with >NEXTSTEP and 3.3's Plug and Play support. Basically, it seems that this stuff is going to be too expensive for me, eh? A _good_ workstation for NextStep is going to cost, what, $3500? It seems that the following are a "must": 24-32 M of RAM P90 CPU Asus motherboard (PCI) PCI SCSI PCI Video (2-4M of RAM) SCSI CD-ROM SCSI HD (1.2+ Gig) 17-21" monitor This sort of system costs how much? Now, what I could reasonably afford is this: 486DX4-100 16 M RAM Asus Motherboard (VLB) VLB IDE/EIDE VLB Video _no_ CD-ROM _no_ sound card 1.2 G IDE HD 14" monitor Looks like I gotta say "oh well" to Nextstep... :( Daniel -- Daniel C. L'Hommedieu Interpath Technical Support dcl@interpath.net 800-890-6305 / 919-890-6305 WOTD: interpolate For account info, mail to: http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ info@interpath.net
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CDPlayer Question Date: 12 Sep 1995 22:55:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> If I stick a regular CD in my CD-ROM drive, /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer comes up. The panel is beautiful (in color), but when I click on play there is no sound from my DACs. Also, I can make system beeps in my terminal app while play is going on. Somehow CDPlayer is not connected to my DACs. It knows about the CD-ROM though, because when I hit play, the CD-ROM light goes on, and when I hit 'Quit', the CD is ejected. Does anyone know what's going on and how I can fix this. I'm running NS 3.2 on black hardware. Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: State of art in the NeXT dump/restore question ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 11 Sep 1995 20:57:06 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4327r2$i8n@portal.gmu.edu> References: <42d24d$hvb@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: get mtset In article <42d24d$hvb@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, > >root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 >Tape/disk read error: I/O error > >I repeat this twenty times and I get: > >root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 >Tape/disk block size (512) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) > >root@ue801be:/tmp> /usr/etc/restore if /dev/nrst0 >Note: Doing Quad swapping >(...) >restore > ls >From there on restoring is possible but incredibly slow. >I also tried Markus Wenzel's proposal: > >>Anyway, the better solution is to dump in variable size >>mode (no mtset, or mtset without any option) and restore after doing a >>'mtset -i', which means "ignore illegal length reports and continue >>restore". It just works fine for me and my WangDAT > >but without improvement in my unhappy case. Don't feel bad, I have a Wangtek DAT too, and have incredible problems with it and restore as well. (But not with dump OR gnutar or tar.) I used some variation on the "mtset" thing. NeXT's stblocksize has casued me nothing but grief, so I took it out of /etc/rc & went back to using mtset. I STILL have problems, in fact to the point where it drives me up the wall. - The diffrence though is that I *can* eventually (after 3 hours in the most recent case) get the damned thing to work. WITH stblocksize, it NEVER works. basicly my procedure is to endlessly jack around with mtset & mt & restore until it "catches" and I can do a restore. The other thing I do, is instead of making a "Level 0" with restore, I use gnutar. I find it interesting from your post that the problem is not restricted to Wangtek products. I constantly see stuff like: Sep 8 05:56:46 vampire mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x4 Sep 8 05:56:46 vampire mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H In my /usr/adm/messages file (and on console in my case) too. f i could figure out what the sense codes meant, I'd be able to figure out why in god's name this damned program won't run worth a crap on the OS, but so far i've seen no pointers to scsi codes (and there's the question of wether I really want to go down that road... ) I probably am going to eventually get a DAT drive that is known to work without allot of bullshit and just stick the one I have on something I never need. I don't see any other option, as realisticly I do not expect NeXT to do a hell of allot to change things with it. The other option is to take "restore" sources from a PD os & use those to build a working model of the software. I'm becoming more interested in that as times passes. Anyway, expect no miracles out of "restore" and out of "mtset". If someone has a foolproof, or even a modestly reliable procedure for using restore & dump & mtset in some combination with a problematic DAT, I'd LOVE to hear details. Oh! also one last thing, if someone has contact info for "WangTek" I'd LOVE to have it, I am wondering if these guys have a revised bios for the drive avalible & I want to call them up. Tim Scanlon -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail) Tim Scanlon George mason University Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic posession
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Crashes on Cube w/3.0 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 12 Sep 1995 23:40:15 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4355ov$71u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <434n19$8e3@mariana.tcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gordon Jacobs (jac@mariana.tcs.com) wrote: : I just dusted off a NeXT 040 Cube w/64Mb RAM, running 2.0 : and performed an upgrade to 3.0 from CD-ROM. The upgrade : seemed to go fine, until it was done and asked to re-boot. : During that process there was a crash, but it came up OK : when I re-booted again... The only other odd thing was : that is showed 40MB RAM during the bootup (could some : of my RAM have died?) I would suggest taking out the RAM, cleaning the contacts and putting it back in. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adaptec2940,fdisk and 3rd SCSI drive-help!! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Sep 1995 23:49:14 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site Message-ID: <43569q$q2g@ns2.ny.ubs.com> References: <430m9b$e8v@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: : Hello... : : I have NS3.3 runing on a Triton Asus Intel motherboard with a P5/100. I am : using an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller with the bios 1.2 rev . I have a : Quantum Trailblazer 850 (ID0), Seagate 1gig (ID2), Apple CD300 (ID2) and I : just added a Quantum Fireball(ID3) 1gig drive. I can start my system and : initialize the Quantum Fireball completeley as a NEXTSTEP volume. But, I : wanted to try Win95 (please no moans:) ) and so I partitioned the 850 boot : drive into 200megs DOS and the rest NS. Everything runs fine. However I'd : like to fdisk the Fireball (ID3) and create 1 DOS partition and 1 NS : partition. fdisk won't let me do that. It complains that the BIOS may be : disabled (it is not) and that NS won't be able to get accurate information : on the HD. So I went ahead and formatted is completely as a NS HD and it : worked fine. Then I formatted it as a DOS drive and it again worked fine. I : really don't want to allocate 1.2gigs to win95, so is there a solution to : partitioning this drive with one partition DOS and the other NS? : : Any information would really be appreciated. This is very strange. : Thank's...Philip : -- : Philip McDunnough : LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} : philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred} I have a very similar setup to yours, and had a very similar problem. I "sovled" (if you can call it that :-) my problem by *temporarily* disabling my internal disk (already partitioned into two drives, both DOS), and setting my *external* disk to SCSI 0. When the Adaptec sees only the *one* drive on the system, it seems very happy with that one drive. I think you will be able to partition it any way you like. Once built, I reconnected my internal disk, and reset the external disk to sd2. (Stay with me now ... :-) OK. Now, I can no longer boot NS directly from the boot partition of my internal drive (as there is no way that I can determine to mention a different scsi device from the one that got booted, sigh :-(). Here's what I do. First, on my *external* disk, I change the /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sd2a onto / rather than the default sd0a. Now, whenever I want to boot NS (this gets gross, but works flawlessly :-), I stop the boot process with a CTRL-A (the Adaptec utitilies entry point), and then I DISABLE BIOS SEARCH FOR SD0! NS then automatically boots off of my second drive. I do have to supply the parameter: rootdev=sd2a (at the Boot: prompt). Whew! I know this is a little convoluted, but it does work and gives me tremendous flexibilty. You can also easily boot off of a floppy and say "rootdev=sd2a" as well and that will work fine as well. I personally prefer the adaptec way, though lord knows why. P.S. even when disabling the bios scan for sd0, the drive still *automatically* mounts as /ms_dos_6 on my NS drive so it is completely available. It was only cut out during the bios scan, not disabled completely from the adaptec card! Feel free to drop me a line if this stuff isn't clear enough. -- Hadar Pedhazur Global Equity Derivatives Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: mike@child (Michael Emmel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nextstep users in Wichita Kansas? Date: 13 Sep 1995 00:34:34 GMT Organization: SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <4358uq$r8a@opal.southwind.net> References: <433u6s$bmk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I just moved to Wichita Kansas and was wodering if there is a Nextstep Users Group or any body using Nextsep here. Especially programming. Id think I could find this info on the web or and ftp site any clues at to where? Thanks mike
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Date: 13 Sep 1995 02:27:09 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <435fht$8d7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : If I stick a regular CD in my CD-ROM drive, /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer : comes up. The panel is beautiful (in color), but when I click on play : there is no sound from my DACs. Also, I can make system beeps in my terminal : app while play is going on. Somehow CDPlayer is not connected to my DACs. : It knows about the CD-ROM though, because when I hit play, the CD-ROM light : goes on, and when I hit 'Quit', the CD is ejected. : Does anyone know what's going on and how I can fix this. : I'm running NS 3.2 on black hardware. CDPlayer just makes the CD-ROM play the CD. It does not read the sound data and direct it to your DACs. Plug in a headphone. On Intel you could connect line-out from the CD-ROM to your soundcard.... Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: rob@object_station.zsmg.com (Robert L. Schmitter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: JOB: NeXTSTEP developers wanted Date: 13 Sep 1995 02:20:40 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <435f5o$ckl@news.voicenet.com> Keywords: Job NeXTSTEP developers Zonics System Management Group, Inc. specializes in building Mission Critical Applications in Client Server environments. We are located in Philadelphia PA. We use NeXTSTEP as the backbone for development to deploy applications on other platforms, mostly MS Windows. We have immediate openings in some of our clients: 1. Lead analyst in insurance industry 2. IS Director in reinsurance industry Both jobs are permanent placement with great salaries and benefits. NeXTSTEP experience is a must. Send resume and salary requirements to: Email: rschmitr@zsmg.com (NeXTmail preferred) Business: (610) 337-0660 Fax: (610) 337-9930 Zonics System Management Group C\O Robert L. Schmitter The Zonics Building 1015 West 9th Avenue King of Prussia, PA 19406
From: camin@grove.ufl.edu (Chintan Amin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:19:29 -0500 Organization: University of Florida College of Law Message-ID: <camin-1209951719290001@ppp-09-uf-cs1.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDErKKv.C5s@netcom.com> <433148$k47@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDEsvGq.Hyy@netcom.com> In article <laurenceDEsvGq.Hyy@netcom.com>, laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) wrote: @ mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) writes: @ @ >]Well, sure, most recent Macs come with slots, but they're nubus slots, @ >]not standard ISA or EISA slots. @ @ > NuBus is no less standard then ISA/EISA. @ @ B.S. NuBus exists on Apple brand machines only. That's machines from EXACTLY @ ONE manufacturer. B.S. My computer isn't made by Apple and it has NuBus slots. -- Chintan Amin camin@grove.ufl.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~ca3155 University of Florida College of Law Class of 1998 University of Illinois College of Engineering Class of 1995 This Message Comes to You Courtesy of a Power Computing Power 100
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FTP sites messed up? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 11 Sep 1995 22:55:30 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <432ep2$nnv@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: what is up? Hmm first I read (here I belive) that ftp.dn.net is toast, then that Peanuts itself is empty or whatever, and now when I try to goto ftp.cs.orst.edu, the /pub/next/* directories are all drwxrwxr-- (which means no mortals need apply under their setup) Does anyone know what sort of oddness is up with this? Is it just some freak congruence of circumstance? Certainly odd in any case. I'm sort of wondering also what ftp sites there are, especially in the USA. The sites I'm aware of are:. cs.orst.edu: "The main site for North American submissions" -bad perms nova.cc.purdue.edu: Empty last time I checked. ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. -Great site, hard to reach. ftp.dn.net: Mirror of the above, currently empty terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) Damn good site. cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) Same deal, very good. ftp.next.com: Corporate site. info etc. patches avalible occasionaly. (i.e don't hold your breath.) At one point there were more, but they dissapeared over time. As things stand, at the moment, there is NO accesible US site other than ftp.next.com. Kind of a drag really. Tim Scanlon -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail) Tim Scanlon George mason University Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic posession
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SOLVED: Driving Printer from Intel Date: 12 Sep 1995 21:38:34 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <434ukq$lir@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I previously wrote about having difficulties driving my HP DeskJet 500 from the parallel port on my system. The printer worked fine under Windows NT but wouldn't work under NeXTSTEP. It turns out that the solution was to go into the System BIOS Setup and to disable the advanced power management functions. After disabling power management, both my parallel port and sound card started working normally. My printer now works great with GS Corp's eXTRAPRINT printer driver! - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Date: 13 Sep 1995 04:25:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <435mfh$1al@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <435fht$8d7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: >CDPlayer just makes the CD-ROM play the CD. It does not read the >sound data and direct it to your DACs. Plug in a headphone. On Intel >you could connect line-out from the CD-ROM to your soundcard.... Too bad. I wonder if anyone has an application which delivers the CD data to the DACs or to the hard drive. I used one at a research lab in France last year, but it required a special modification of the circuitry to deliver data to the NeXT DSP port. However, it seems like it should be possible to bring the data across the SCSI either to another disk or the DACs in real time. Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@howard> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:20:27 -0600 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> On 8 Sep 1995, mathew joseph wrote: > This is an INCREDIBLE statement! Let me think...last I checked the > Pentium, which performs very poorly against today's RISC processors (i.e. > PPC, MIPS, Alpha, etc.) had absolutely no way of upgrading to a P6 since > they use different pin designs. And last I checked the P6 ran 16 apps > SLOWER than the P5 and and 32 bit apps only marginally faster while Actually, it depends on what benchmark software you use. Floating point, for instance, is not a Pentium strong point, though the P120s and P133s are roughly equivalent in fp with 602s (certainly it is when compared to a 601). That said, it is also rather unfair to strike at the P6 for being slower operating a 16 bit app...a PowerPC is also slow with such software, being optimized for 32 bit apps. Running a P6 on 16 bit apps is much like running DOS/Windows software on a PowerPC...pisspoor because it has to use a software emmulator to do so, which gives it a performance on such software in the lower x86 Intel processor range. If I recall properly, the PowerPC running a DOS or Windows app or game (of which there still are far more available than for a Mac of any flavor, let alone for any 32-bit operating system) is comparable to a 486DX or DX2. Not bad, but not great either. Soon, most apps will be written in 32 bit code, in which case, Windows95 will run comparable to OS/2 and WindowsNT...some people, not having the big bucks, will hang on to Win95 for a long time. When most apps are 32bit, the the P6 will do swimningly...even IBM seems to think that the processor competition between Intel/HP and IBM/Motorola will be interesting and tight. The "best" processor will be a matter of taste and application, not simply architecture...and Intel processors are becoming more and more RISC-like anyway (this naturally neglects the other processors and os's because they tend to be isolated and for very special niche use...Joe and Jane Blo are never going to be Unix-heads, nor Amiga users, nor Alpha chip owners). By the way, at Barnes and Noble there is a book entitled _The Computer Hardware Bible_. It gets quite technical into the details of various chips from the DEC Alpha to the PPC to the MIP to the x86 and P6. It goes over RISC and finds that "RISC" is not a real clear term with a solid boundary between non-RISC and RISC. A PPC may be MORE RISC-like than a Pentium, but it isn't all that much. And in comparison to others, it may seem more CISC-like. For you Unix people...also at Barnes and Noble, amongst the Unix books, is a book entitled _Why Unix Must Die_. Interesting book covering the ugliness,ungainliness, and plain chaos of Unix design. It goes over all the supposed good points of Unix and, point for point, debunks the myths. It doesn't address Linux at all so perhaps Linux is saved from the flaws of Unix. >:) patrick@corona.med.utah.edu
From: Roger Kendall <Kendall@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: NUGGET CONTROVERSY Date: 13 Sep 1995 03:23:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <435iqq$14e3@saba.info.ucla.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42thko$347@news.paonline.com> <wVCtKMDD4aUz1@tsb049.toschibo.ruhr.de> <4333sq$88j@news.corpcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: sdavis@rapidcity.com "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> wrote: >C_Reifenrath@TOSCHIBO.ruhr.de (Clemens Reifenrath) wrote: >>LPeters@microsoft.com (L.Peters) wrote: >> >>> Okay, first of all, DON'T press these keys [...] >>> >>> And YES Nugget will appear in all his glory. And by the way, DO NOT >> >>This might be a Trojan horse, so *beware* ! >> >> Clemens >> > >I hope this is a joke (you didn't put in any emoticons). If not, please do >NOT spread rumors about virus' and such. It is just another easter egg. > >If it is a joke, I get it. > >-Steve > What is the real story? I tried the key combination and it nearly brought Win95 down... -- Roger A. Kendall Music Perception and Cognition and Musical Acoustics Laboratory UCLA
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 11 Sep 1995 04:15:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <430d4j$ecf@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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From: Ira Fuchs <fuchs@princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Zyxel modem Date: 13 Sep 1995 02:52:39 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <435h1n$3do@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using an original black cube and I would like to find a way to dial a number and deliver a voice announcement. I had hoped to to use a Zyxel modem to do this. There is a package called AM that I thought would do this but I understand that it will not work reliably on the Cube. This may mean that no solution that requires the Zyxel modem (on the Cube) will work (if the serial port can't keep up). Another possibility, I suppose, would be to dial out with any modem and then find a way to patch the NeXT's audio to the phone line. If anyone knows a way to do this either with the Zyxel, the NeXT audio, or any other clever method, I would very much like to know.
From: smashcat@union4.su.swin.edu.au (Douglas Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 13 Sep 1995 07:45:57 GMT Organization: Swinburne University of Technology Message-ID: <43627l$maq@lucy.swin.edu.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42tm9t$j0r@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> <810911594.2270@dave.esys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While maiming time, I espied the following from David Mantripp: : Could anybody still taking part in this pathetic squabble please check : the list of Newsgroups you are posting to, and remove inappropriate ones. : These include various platforms which run neither MacOS nor Windows (eg : SGI, Newton, Amiga...). In fact could you just delete them all, and : squabble on e-mail. The vast majority of people who just want to get on : and use newsgroups for civilised exchange of information will be most : grateful to you. And if you're that intent on getting stuck in to : pointless, unwinnable argiments, why not try Religion ? Putting it even more bluntly than the gentleman I am quoting above, fuck off from any newsgroups not fitting the *.pc.* or *.windows.* filters and fuck off now. I have put up with this irelevant crap in aus.comp.amiga for weeks now, and I wish a painful and meaningless death upon each and every one of you poxy bastards who persist in boring us shitless with your endless blatherings! With loathing, disgust and more irritation than you can poke a stick at, Doug. -- _.--Email: smashcat@union4.su.swin.edu.au--944682@bud.cc.swin.edu.au.--. _ // I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed | \X/ or numbered! My life is my own. - No.6 to No.2, "The Prisoner" | `--------*Dogs crawl under fences. Software crawls under Windows*--------'
From: krs@canit.se (Robert Staflin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Ger Microsoft Mutor? Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:12:18 +0200 Organization: KRS Consulting Message-ID: <krs-1309951212180001@dslip10.canit.se> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <Pine.SOL.3.90.950912130041.1863B-100000@sophocles.algonet.se> *Garv* Varför blir jag inte förvånad? or, for the majority of people: *Laugh* Why am I not surprised? /Robert KRS Consulting Tel/fax: +46 (18) 553832 Mobile: +46 (70) 5804028
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Windows95 Clent? Date: 13 Sep 1995 10:09:11 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <436ak7$974@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Hi... Does anyone know of a NEXTSTEP Windows 95 client? That is, something which would allow to integrate into a win95 peer-peer network...Thank's, and please no "smart" comments:) -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: geoffrey@gdkitt.scotnet.co.uk (Geoffrey Kitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 11:54:54 GMT Organization: Minerva Management Consulting Message-ID: <436gqe$149@florence.scotnet.co.uk> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <G.Vaughn-0409952337390001@slip-31-7.ots.utexas.edu> Of course, if its no good then nobody will buy it, or support it by developing products, or ........ I suppose the reason why the Newt has been such a great success for Apple is that it works so well? Geoffrey Kitt (MP Classic, MP110, Win95 User)
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.misc, alt.flame Date: 12 Sep 1995 05:48:02 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <4336ui$3p7@portal.gmu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42o3kf$9qt@news-2.csn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: SPAM SPAM SPAM Keywords: this thread is spam This thread does NOT belong in any comp.sys.next.* group. It's grody SPAM, and not everyone cares about Bill's latest barf. -tfs -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail) Tim Scanlon George mason University Public Affairs I speak for myself, but often claim demonic posession
From: pyoung@du.edu (P.C. Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 11 Sep 1995 04:07:57 GMT Organization: University of Denver Message-ID: <430cmt$8g5@hermes.cair.du.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <42igbh$hrk@news1.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <42igbh$hrk@news1.deltanet.com>, fuz@deltanet.como says... >Win95 is a great improvement over Win3.1. It is still garbage, but it is a >lot closer to what it should be. Had they been able to make these kind of >interface changes over the fairly solid core of NT, and have it be compatible, > >Scott > It's a different OS, Scott. Legacy stuff bogs down in NT because nothing is allowed direct access to the hardware except the OS. It's a mini network inside your computer. Do you really think they should have made it like the Power Mac software? No backward compatibility? Mac GUI for apps they haven't even written yet? Come on! Get REAL! --Pedro
From: jeff@econ.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Ely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Windows95 Clent? Date: 13 Sep 1995 15:55:33 GMT Organization: Is a fine idea Message-ID: <436utl$i2d@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <436ak7$974@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Check out Samba, a free implementation of the SMB protocol used in MS networking. Look on the newsgroup comp.protocols.smb Jeff In article <436ak7$974@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>, philip@utstat.toronto.edu says... > >Does anyone know of a NEXTSTEP Windows 95 client? That is, something which >would allow to integrate into a win95 peer-peer network...Thank's, and >please no "smart" comments:)
From: kraemer@rzri6f.gsi.de (Michael Kraemer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 16:29:11 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <4370sn$1djf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard> In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard>, Patrick O'Neil <patrick@howard> writes: > On 8 Sep 1995, mathew joseph wrote: > [deletia] > > For you Unix people...also at Barnes and Noble, amongst the Unix books, is > a book entitled _Why Unix Must Die_. Interesting book covering the > ugliness,ungainliness, and plain chaos of Unix design. It goes over all > the supposed good points of Unix and, point for point, debunks the myths. > It doesn't address Linux at all so perhaps Linux is saved from the flaws of > Unix. >:) > Since when does an ugly design prevent commercial success ? And, vice versa, show me an example of a good design that has become a commercial success just because it's a good design.
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 13 Sep 1995 17:41:55 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <437553$bce@clarknet.clark.net> References: <dcl.810585858@mercury> <43243u$1sk@clarknet.clark.net> <dcl.810942519@mercury> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote: : Basically, it seems that this stuff is going to be too expensive for me, : eh? A _good_ workstation for NextStep is going to cost, what, $3500? : It seems that the following are a "must": : 24-32 M of RAM : P90 CPU : Asus motherboard (PCI) : PCI SCSI : PCI Video (2-4M of RAM) : SCSI CD-ROM : SCSI HD (1.2+ Gig) : 17-21" monitor : : This sort of system costs how much? Actually, I've ran NEXTSTEP reasonably on: 486DX 33Mhz generic VLB motherboard 20mb RAM Weitek P9100 2mb VRAM VLB/PCI board (okay, this a splurge) 400mb IDE drive (through the ISA bus) Intel EtherExpress 16 14" SVGA monitor Was it lightning fast? No. No slower than Solaris/OpenWindows running on a SPARC 5/85. :-) The slowest part was probably the IDE drive. It also caused massive overhead. Of course, I wasn't compiling on this machine nor running something like Mathematica. : Now, what I could reasonably afford is this: : 486DX4-100 : 16 M RAM : Asus Motherboard (VLB) : VLB IDE/EIDE : VLB Video : _no_ CD-ROM : _no_ sound card : 1.2 G IDE HD : 14" monitor Since there isn't much of a price difference between a PCI/VLB ASUS motherboard and the VLB only one. I would recommend PCI for several reasons: Plug and Play future growth/use speed lost cost SCSI You can also go the PCI EIDE route which is *much* better than ISA/IDE. Not quite SCSI, but not nearly as dog slow as ISA/IDE. You'll need to borrow a CD-ROM drive to build NEXTSTEP. Note that NEXTSTEP can support some ATAPI CD-ROM drives now and you can also install over the network if you have access to such facilities. There are other creative solutions too. Since you're only getting a 14" monitor, 1280x1024 in 12 bit color is just straight out. :-) You can get an inexpensive PCI video card with DRAM to run at lower resolutions like 800x600 or 1024x768. In other words, in can be done, even with the configuration you've specified. Actually, your CPU is more than you need for NEXTSTEP, but will help make up a bit for the missing RAM and I/O capabilities of a "balanced" workstation configuration. ..Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.s From: glennf@mv.mv.com (Glenn M. Fagerlund) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DEuqv0.LvI@mv.mv.com> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (System Administrator) Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 16:23:24 GMT References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> In article <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13>, >> >> Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively >> Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in >> my basement garage has got you ALL beat. >> >> But then, I had the money, so what the hey? >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Steve smithsc@biocom1.bioc.uab.edu >> -------------------------------------------- >> Fast multitasking does not a good OS make. > >Right on man! If I had the money, I'd do that same thing! =) > >_____________________________________________________________________ >Bill Catambay >Pascal Programmer on Macintosh and Open VMS <<<SNIP>>> If I had that kind of money I would buy Austrailia first. ~r .signature -- ---------------------------------------------------- In 1984 Apple introduced Windows 95...They called it Macintosh. It had folders, icons, a nice desktop, and a trash can. In 1995 Microsoft introduced Windows 95...They called
From: pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil (Louis M. Pecora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 18:47:50 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <pecora-1309951455300001@lou-pecora.nrl.navy.mil> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard> <4370sn$1djf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In article <4370sn$1djf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, kraemer@rzri6f.gsi.de (Michael Kraemer) wrote: > In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard>, Patrick O'Neil <patrick@howard> writes: > > On 8 Sep 1995, mathew joseph wrote: > > > [deletia] > > > > For you Unix people...also at Barnes and Noble, amongst the Unix books, is > > a book entitled _Why Unix Must Die_. Interesting book covering the > > ugliness,ungainliness, and plain chaos of Unix design. It goes over all > > the supposed good points of Unix and, point for point, debunks the myths. > > It doesn't address Linux at all so perhaps Linux is saved from the flaws of > > Unix. >:) > > > > Since when does an ugly design prevent commercial success ? > And, vice versa, show me an example of a good design that has > become a commercial success just because it's a good design. Cindy Crawford. -- Louis M. Pecora pecora@zoltar.nrl.navy.mil /* My views and opinions are not those of the U.S. Navy. If you want those, you have to start a war. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: tmb@idm.com (Thomas M. Buccelli) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Sender: news@idm.com (The News User) Message-ID: <DEv015.LuM@idm.com> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:41:29 GMT References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> <munz-1209951519140001@pcmmunz.orem.novell.com> Organization: Information Data Management Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Mark Munz (munz@wordperfect.com) wrote: } In article <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com>, cygnus@halcyon.com (Wayne } Hixson) wrote: } > PMFJI, but Networking and data bases are much stronger for the PC than } > the Mac. Also, hardware is more widely available and the architecture } > is not closed like the Mac. Purchase costs continue to be lower, } > although not as much as earlier. } > } > Wayne Hixson } > cygnus@halcyon.com } The Macintosh has strong support for both Networking and databases. } In the networking area, it has AppleShare (if you need a Mac as both } Server and Client) or you can go NetWare (Mac client, but currently no Mac } server). From the previous posts in the thread, I believe "Networking" was being used to refer to Netware (which has many clients as well as servers). I don't know about Appleshare, there may be clients for systems other than Macintoshes. } In the database arena, you can go with simple flat file like FileMaker Pro } or First 4D. Or truly relational like FoxBase and 4th Dimension. } True, the Macintosh doesn't provide you with 50 crappy database programs } or 40 different networking schemes, but it provides you with good ones. Again, I believe 'Database' is being used to refer to the higher end databases (Oracle, Sybase, Ingres, DB/2, etc.). The above two readings could have to do with my own exposure and may not be the true expressions of the posters, just my take on it. I have used both machines and they both have their benefits and drawbacks. They are just tools and people should treat them as such. I have a PC at home, I could not afford a Mac at the time, and I can accomplish all that I need to do. When I am at the school lab, I will use whichever type is available, the file formats are compatible and the WP interfaces are similar. I may be slightly more technically advanced than the average user, but I don't think this makes any difference. There is a Mac commercial that shows a father setting up a new PC with his son and they talk about editing CONFIG.SYS and the rest. Most new PC's sold now come complete and do not require such contortions to get them running. Both Macs and PCs are similar in that you attach all the cables and turn them on, not much else to them. The PCs I have seen for sale even boot up directly into Windows (they do this also with 95 I guess, I don't run it). I am not saying that the PC is easy to configure, I am just saying that many people will not ever even try to change it. Tom -- Thomas M. Buccelli (tmb@idm.com) #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 13 Sep 1995 18:56:55 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) writes: me too !!!! --KAI-- kwong@draco.ucs.mun.ca >This is wacky- >Our news site doesn't have the post with the screenshot in it, nor can I >find it on ftp.cs.orst.edu (there's a corrupt gif there)... Can someone >e-mail it to me via NEXTMAIL? >Thanks! >Sean >--- >Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience >Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch >Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 >CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505 -- Email: kwong@draco.ucs.mun.ca WWW: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ MWRC Supervisor & Webmaster[MUN DCS]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics) Subject: Trouble with OmniWeb Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <DEuwAE.Bq5@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:20:37 GMT Organization: Washington State University I'm having trouble installing OmniWeb and hope for some help. When I double click OminWeb I get the Lighthouse Design's Welcome to OmniWeb page with hot buttons. For example the button to Yahoo. When I click the Yahoo button I get: Request Failed Can't Access Document http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/ Reason: Can't locate remote host akebono.stanford.edu It seems to me that I've not set up the nameserver or something like that. Unfortunately, the academic CD bundle from Lighthouse Designs did not have documentation so I can't find out how to get things working. Has anybody else faced this problem and know the solution. Thanks in advance. Wayne
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Trouble with OmniWeb Date: 13 Sep 1995 20:57:53 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <437gkh$jai@news.iastate.edu> References: <DEuwAE.Bq5@serval.net.wsu.edu> In article <DEuwAE.Bq5@serval.net.wsu.edu> joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics) writes: > I'm having trouble installing OmniWeb and hope for some help. > [munch] > > When I click the Yahoo button I get: > > Request Failed > Can't Access Document > http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/ > > Reason: Can't locate remote host > akebono.stanford.edu > [Munch] > > Wayne For month's now (until last week anyway) clicking on Yahoo! on your home page informed people that the Yahoo! site had been moved. Last week I finally edited my home page and it works fine... To change the http address of Yahoo!, click Browser->View Source, then search for and change "akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo" to "www.yahoo.com", save the Start.html (you may need to use the root account to do this) and you can now browse Yahoo! -- Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine, Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted) Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: wstien@csulb.edu (Wendy Stien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Zmodem probs on Next Mach 3.3 Date: 13 Sep 1995 21:45:51 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <437jef$r5t@garuda.csulb.edu> I was wondering if anyone knows of a workaround for this problem: Running off a unix shell account on a campus network of 5 NEXT machines, zmodem file transfers are bombing out constantly. I usually get a slew of CRC errors or Data Subpacket too long errors. I usually connect with a 14.4 modem to the server, and a few applications that I want to use require zmodem transfers (specifically IComm). I usually resort to using xmodem 1k when I need to transfer files, it's the only semi-reliable way that i've found so far. These zmodem problems are occuring during a normal 8 bit connection, I'm not telnet'ing in or anything. I'm guessing that there might be an appropriate suffix parameter that I need to issue to zmodem (sz -"something") that will work. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
From: caheim@students.wisc.edu (Corey Heim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 23:04:10 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <caheim-1309951804040001@f182-154.net.wisc.edu> References: <welston-0409951915480001@blv-pm10-ip25.halcyon.com> <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <42ghu1$rra@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dialtone95@aol.com (DialTone95) wrote: >Blah blah, scared of Win 95 blah blah Mac 95 blah > > DialTone95@aol.com > > --> WARNING <-- > I am NOT a normal AOL loser. Please do not assume just because I have > @aol.com after my name that I am an idiot. Thank you for your > understanding. :) > > Quote: Give me 30 minutes and I'll give you a half hour. Uh, first of all of our os is 7.5.1, not Mac 95. I can't help it that Bill Gates has to name his os so simply so his illiterate users can tell what it is. Also, by the looks of your quote, I can tell you're not a normal AOL loser, you're just little dumber than the rest.
From: caheim@students.wisc.edu (Corey Heim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 23:07:11 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <caheim-1309951807040001@f182-154.net.wisc.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net> In article <42giv5$3kl@news.corpcomm.net>, "Stephen R. Davis" <sdavis@rapidcity.com> wrote: > > If you don't use Windows 95, then what are you doing participating in this > newsgroup??? If you can't be constructive, stay out! I'm here because this is a mac newsgroup--why are you here? -- Do you think that the University of Wisconsin could have come up with these opinions without Tommy? No. That's why they're my ideas and opinions.
From: ken.grey@dial.pipex.com (Ken Grey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 23:35:49 GMT Organization: IBM/RS6000 and Acer/Altos Distribution Sender: Ken Grey - LEEDS - UK - Powered by Windows95 Message-ID: <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Keywords: RS6000 Acer Windows95 egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: >> >> >> >This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? > Warp reminds me of Betamax. Technically great but no software. Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered mainly by the over 50's. Ken Grey Life's too short ~ Keep your cool LEEDS -UK ken.grey@dial.pipex.com Ken_Grey@msn.com CIS:100142,552
From: sandrock@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Mark Sandrock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 95 02:22:25 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <sandrock.811045345@aries> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> Keywords: RS6000 Acer Windows95 ken.grey@dial.pipex.com (Ken Grey) writes: >Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered >mainly by the over 50's. You wish. Looks to me like old Billy Boy's running scared of the coming Mac onslaught. Hence all the expensive, shrill Win 95 hype. I've seen PC's on the scrapheap, but the old Macs are still in good use. The PC with its 640KB barrier was truly the computing counterpart of the 9-track tape drive. Talk about kludges. Thanks for the apt analogy. Mark Sandrock -- Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign "Seid _einfach_ in dem Denken und Chemical Sciences Computing Services dem Tun; denn in der Einfachheit 505 S. Mathews Ave., Urbana, IL 61801 liegt Groesse und auch Staerke!" Net: sandrock@uiuc.edu --Abd-ru-shin
From: publicareauser@swarthmore.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 16:22:11 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <publicareauser-1309951222130001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard>, Patrick O'Neil <patrick@howard> wrote: > Actually, it depends on what benchmark software you use. Floating point, > for instance, is not a Pentium strong point, though the P120s and P133s > are roughly equivalent in fp with 602s (certainly it is when compared to > a 601). Wow, that's pretty good. Let's see, last I checked the PPC 602 was designed to drive video game machines. A Pentium has the same fp marks as a video game player? Boy, I knew it was slow, but not THAT slow! As for the PPC 601 vs. the P133, the P133 has SPEC92 fp of about 105 whereas the PPC 601, 110 Mhz, has SPEC92 fp of about 145. Deduce what you want from that, but remember that Intel optimizes their chips for SPEC92, and that IA chips performed much worse under the new SPEC95 benchmarks (which Intel has not managed to build a cheat box for yet). > That said, it is also rather unfair to strike at the P6 for > being slower operating a 16 bit app...a PowerPC is also slow with such > software, being optimized for 32 bit apps. PC Week tested a 150 Mhz P6 against a 133 Mhz P5. The P5 outperformed the P6 when running the 16 bit programs that are the mainstay of the PC world. When running either WIn95 with 32 bit native programs OR Win NT with 32 bit native programs, the P6 outperformed the P5 by approximately 20%. But there is a 13% difference in Mhz, so at equivalent clock speeds, running all of the 32 bit apps, the P6 is less than 10% faster than the P5! How is Intel supposed to justify the extremely high price of the P6 with that kind of performance gain? Answer, they can't. Which explains why they have announced that P6's will not ship in quantity for the desktop market until next summer; there is simply no way that they are going to be able to convince someone to shell out an extra couple thousand buck for a machine that is only marginally faster than a P5 (after the consumer spends money buying all of the 32 bit apps). Of course, how they are going to convince consumer to buy it a year from now is beyond me. They're probably stalling for time to develop a new marketing technique or something (Remember how they used to claim that a P6 would be about 125% faster than a P5? Now they'd be happy just to get it to 25% faster...). A 10% performance gain now would not even come close to catching up with PPC, a 10% performance gain a YEAR from now...they might as well not even bother. Don't get me wrong, I have NO DOUBT that Intel will continue to be a successful company since they control such a large percentage of the market share and since they have such good marketing (both Microsoft and Intel have extremely clever management...they realized long ago that they don't actually need to put much, if any, money into R & D as long as they make it up by putting hundreds of millions into advertising) but as far as the technology race goes, it seems they are quickly losing ground.
From: publicareauser@swarthmore.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 13 Sep 1995 16:06:24 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <publicareauser-1309951206260001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42o3is$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <42qmsi$frm@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDErKKv.C5s@netcom.com> <433148$k47@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <laurenceDEsvGq.Hyy@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > They still cost more. It's no longer obscenely more, but still more. And > I'm not comfortable with having to buy my hardware from one company. But you perfectly comfortable about buying your OS from one software company that practically has a monopoly on the market...interesting...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on CNN's Moneyline demoing Web Objects last night In-Reply-To: Stefan Huelf's message of Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:30:45 +0100 Message-ID: <RDL.95Sep13232120@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <m0sr3W3-000btOC@a-gain> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 03:21:20 GMT NeXT should put a QuickTime/NEXTTIME clip of the CNN and CNBC spots up on their Web site. Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: AddressBlaster -- Searching For Author Date: 14 Sep 1995 03:27:34 GMT Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand. Message-ID: <4387f6$3co@senior.nectec.or.th> If anyone knows the name, e-mail address, or whereabouts of the fellow who wrote AddressBlaster (wonderful App) could you please e-mail me. Thanks in Advance!
From: fl332@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John L. Graham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 1995 04:09:32 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Would you look at the list this cr*p is being sent to... >Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,au s.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.s ys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp. sys.misc,comp.s s.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms- windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows .win95.misc I'd love to find the idiot that started this thread and throttle the little sh*t.
From: gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 version 75 crashes on cross-posted articles Date: 14 Sep 1995 11:24:28 +1000 Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney, +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis Message-ID: <43808c$vi2@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Hi all, Has anyone else noticed that NewsGrazer crashes rather ungracefully when faced with an article that is extensively cross-posted. I use NNTP through to a server and when NewsGrazer gets an article with upwards of 15 links at the file system level it just dies. Normally, I just mark tat article as read in my .newsrc fiel and restart but now I am wondering is there a better solution. Has anyone found a better Newsreader or a work-around to this problem (assuming someone else has found this problem)? I know NewsGrazer is unsupported and is unlikely to be upgraded (I was lucky that it was rereleased for NS/FIP) but is version 75 the latest? Any help and feedback appreciated. Cheers, Greg Shaw.
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AddressBlaster -- Searching For Author Date: 14 Sep 1995 04:59:22 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-g-19.usc.edu Message-ID: <438cra$d68@usc.edu> References: <4387f6$3co@senior.nectec.or.th> What is AddressBlaster? -- Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: jtift@dsu.deltast.edu (John Tiftickjian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:07:47 -0600 Organization: Delta State University Message-ID: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> Our department recently received an older NeXT CD-ROM drive as a donation. To make the most of this drive, we would like to be able to use it on a Mac as well as the NeXT. I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, where might I obtain the proper driver? BTW: I'm fairly sure that the driver is communicating with the Mac SCSI port correctly. SCSIProbe shows that the drive is being recognized at the proper SCSI ID number. If there is a FAQ that deals with this, I have not been able to find it. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks.
From: tbrandon@tricon.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need short term access to NeXTcube with M-O drive Date: 14 Sep 1995 04:12:11 GMT Organization: Brandon Associates Message-ID: <438a2r$c2v@news.tricon.net> Keywords: M-O Drive Need short term access to NeXTcube with M-O drive. I need access to a NeXT with a M-O Drive so I can pull some files off of a M-O disk and load onto our NeXTstation. Prefer location in the Southeast US (Northeast Tennessee would be ideal). If you know of who/where I might gain such an access, please contact me. Thanks. Terry Brandon --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: tbrandon@tricon.net Phone: (500) 677-3700 or (423) 434-9477 FAX: (423) 434-9300 ====================================================================
From: jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 14 Sep 1995 08:56:11 GMT Organization: Northern Territory University Message-ID: <438qnb$e5m@pellew.ntu.edu.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <sandrock.811045345@aries> Mark Sandrock (sandrock@aries.scs.uiuc.edu) wrote: : ken.grey@dial.pipex.com (Ken Grey) writes: : >Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered : >mainly by the over 50's. : You wish. Looks to me like old Billy Boy's running scared of the coming : Mac onslaught. Hence all the expensive, shrill Win 95 hype. : I've seen PC's on the scrapheap, but the old Macs are still in good use. : The PC with its 640KB barrier was truly the computing counterpart of the : 9-track tape drive. Talk about kludges. Thanks for the apt analogy. The oncoming Mac onslaught is only to counteract the Amiga now that it has risen from the dead. It looks like all of this marketing hype is because Apple and MS know that the Amiga is back, and here to stay.. Gee, I bet you lot are glad that this wasnt posted to an Atari newsgroup - imagine all of those fanatics having this discussion :^)
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:35:20 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950914133210.26015B-100000@hphalle6c.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <435fht$8d7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <435mfh$1al@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <435mfh$1al@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 13 Sep 1995, James Beauchamp wrote: > Too bad. I wonder if anyone has an application which delivers the CD data to > the DACs or to the hard drive. I used one at a research lab in France last > year, but it required a special modification of the circuitry to deliver data > to the NeXT DSP port. However, it seems like it should be possible to bring > the data across the SCSI either to another disk or the DACs in real time. There is a program named playcd.1.3.NI.s.tar.gz at ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/cdrom Which reads raw data from SCSI-CD and plays it through the DACs. The program is limited to Toshiba (and as far as I know Sony) drives, because the SCSI commands are not standardized. I wasn't able to play the data on Intel, but I was able to get the data to hard disk. Few patches are necessary to make the program run with other drives not listed in the compatibility guide (the program is a little bit old). Best regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: snglov00@mik.uky.edu (stephen neal glover) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 95 12:08:33 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <snglov00.811080513@mik.uky.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ng1k$omk@its.hooked.net> <mjoseph1-0809951232000001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> In <mjoseph1-0809951232000001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> mjoseph1@swarthmore.edu (mathew joseph) writes: >the people in PC Week (which is biased towards PC's!) said that the 132 >Mhz 604 based PowerMac "left the 133 Mhz Pentium in the dust." And most I always doubt these PowerPC vs. Pentium comparisons. I watched one once where they were comparing graphics packages. On the pentium was the windows version of the program, on the PPC was their version, and it kicked the pentiums butt. Problem is, the version they were using was compiled for the PPC processor, the windows version was the plain vanilla windows version which is compiled to run on a 386. Re-write windows AND the software to fully utilize the Pentium and I doubt the difference would be so dramatic. What most of these comparisons do is compare new PPC optimized software to old legacy software that must run on a tons of old machines. It's all marketing...technical issues ignored. Neal
From: C Lance Moxley <clm@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 1995 12:26:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <43970s$6bi@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <sandrock.811045345@aries> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sandrock@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Mark Sandrock) wrote: >ken.grey@dial.pipex.com (Ken Grey) writes: > >>Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered >>mainly by the over 50's. > >I've seen PC's on the scrapheap, but the old Macs are still in good use. >The PC with its 640KB barrier was truly the computing counterpart of the >9-track tape drive. Talk about kludges. Thanks for the apt analogy. What's this "9-track" shit???? It's 8-TRACK!!!!! I'm only 32 by the way. -- C Lance Moxley E-Mail: clm@uiuc.edu University of Illinois FAX: 217 244-1279 Urbana - Champaign PGP Public Key: finger lance@aiss.uiuc.edu
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 14 Sep 1995 12:46:44 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg Distribution: world Message-ID: <43987k$6mb@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> The screen-shot of NEXTSTEP 4.0 is not available anymore! Kai S. Wong (kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote: / hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) writes: / me too !!!! // Our news site doesn't have the post with the screenshot in it, nor can I // find it on ftp.cs.orst.edu (there's a corrupt gif there)... Can someone // e-mail it to me via NEXTMAIL? Martin Michlmayr tbm@ihq.com
From: jtift@dsu.deltast.edu (John Tiftickjian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: Using NeXT CD-ROM on Mac Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 11:56:39 -0600 Organization: Delta State University Message-ID: <jtift-1409951157160001@192.0.2.1> Our department recently received an older NeXT CD-ROM drive as a donation. To make the most of this drive, we would like to be able to use it on a Mac as well as the NeXT. I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, where might I obtain the proper driver? BTW: I'm fairly sure that the driver is communicating with the Mac SCSI port correctly. SCSIProbe shows that the drive is being recognized at the proper SCSI ID number. If there is a FAQ that deals with this, I have not been able to find it. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= John D. Tiftickjian, Ph.D. Department of Biological Sciences Delta State University Professor of Biology, DSU Cleveland, Mississippi 38733 jtift@dsu.deltast.edu 601-846-4246 FAX: 601-846-4443
From: rollie@next.com (Matt Rollefson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mixing NT (shutter) with NEXTSTEP -- HD partitions Date: 14 Sep 1995 17:16:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <439o10$71q@news.next.com> References: <42mpn1$ibc@nova.umuc.edu> Keywords: NEXTSTEP, Windows NT, hard drives In comp.sys.next.misc fletcher@nova.umuc.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes: > >I am being forced into buying a PC and using NT for a project. If I >am going to have a PC I would also want NEXTSTEP on it. Is there a >way to configure/partition the drive to have both? Yes. >Should I have a DOS partition? If you want to; might as well, for games if nothing else. >What order do they need to be in and what takes precedence at boot >time? They can be in any order. If you're using the NEXTSTEP booter, the default partition (if you don't type anything when it says "press n for NEXTSTEP, d for DOS") is the active partition. You can also select a partition by partition number. You create these partitions using fdisk; probably the easiest way to do this is to install NEXTSTEP first, using the advanced options mode where you can create your own fdisk partitions. Create one for DOS, one for NT, and one for NEXTSTEP. Then install NEXTSTEP on the NEXTSTEP partition. >Should I have two drives and put an operating system on each? There's no standard for booting from a secondary hard drive. You can configure NEXTSTEP to do so if you have room for a 7 MEG NS partition on your primary hard drive. There's a NeXTanswer on setting this up entitled "Booting from an Alternate Hard Drive." I forget what number it is off-hand, but it should work. (It worked when I wrote it, at any rate.) >Has anyone done this and on what platform(s) (I am assuming I can >find a hardware combination that works for both compatiability lists:-) I've done it. I don't remember what hardware I used; I think it was a DELL or some such. You shouldn't have too many problems with any modern Intel hardware. >I would greatly appreciate any details, details, details. Check out the NeXTanswer. Rollie
From: Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:01:36 +0200 Organization: private site in Munich, (South) Germany Sender: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Message-ID: <AXEL.95Sep14180134@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> In-reply-to: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca's message of 13 Sep 1995 18:56:55 GMT We have made the screenshots available at http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/index-e.html (english) or http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/ (german) Hope this helps, Axel -- Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXT/MIME-Mail) seibert@leo.org You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:03:31 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-f-08.usc.edu Message-ID: <439qpj$75n@usc.edu> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <43987k$6mb@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) wrote: > The screen-shot of NEXTSTEP 4.0 is not available anymore! Weeelll, I just d/l'd it and it comes up on my screen 8-) -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | PGP key upon request "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: Upgrade 3.0-->3.3 (Should I save anything?) Message-ID: <DEwqvt.tx@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: postmaster@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:19:05 GMT I'm about to upgrade my spiffy new Next Slab to NextStep 3.3 from the 3.0 that was on it when I bought it. I know that NextStep 3.3 does not have the appletalk/appleshare support aht 3.0 did, so I plan to save atalkd and ashared. (Will these work with 3.3?) Is there anything else from 3.0 that I should save or can I just overwrite everything with 3.3? Will 3.3 fit alright on a 240Mb disk? Anyone have any advice/warnings/words-of-wisdom before I start the upgrade? Thanks, --Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: Cyrus Roton <croton@ridgecrest.ca.us> Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be In-Reply-To: <publicareauser-1309951222130001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950914111939.3233C-100000@owens> Sender: usenet@ridgecrest.ca.us (Ridgenet Usenet admin) Organization: RidgeNet - SLIP/PPP Internet, Ridgecrest, CA. (619) 371-3501 References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42ob3i$r0t@data.interserv.net> <mjoseph1-0809951250580001@b32.public.swarthmore.edu> <Pine.SOL.3.91.950912215736.18857D-100000@howard> <publicareauser-1309951222130001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:22:30 GMT This subject has nothing to do with comp.sys.apple2. Cluttering up a newsgroup with non-pertinent articals is inconsiderate. When you send a letter, you should take a close look at the distribution list and remove the inappropriate ones. Cyrus Roton croton@ridgecrest.ca.us Ridgecrest Apple User Group
From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: Using NeXT CD-ROM on Mac Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:35:07 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <439skr$4p4@moe.cc.emory.edu> References: <jtift-1409951157160001@192.0.2.1> John Tiftickjian (jtift@dsu.deltast.edu) wrote: : Our department recently received an older NeXT CD-ROM drive as a donation. : To make the most of this drive, we would like to be able to use it on a : Mac as well as the NeXT. : I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with : the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the : desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a : driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. : My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, : where might I obtain the proper driver? : BTW: I'm fairly sure that the driver is communicating with the Mac SCSI : port correctly. SCSIProbe shows that the drive is being recognized at the : proper SCSI ID number. : If there is a FAQ that deals with this, I have not been able to find it. : Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks. : +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= : John D. Tiftickjian, Ph.D. Department of Biological Sciences : Delta State University : Professor of Biology, DSU Cleveland, Mississippi 38733 : jtift@dsu.deltast.edu 601-846-4246 : FAX: 601-846-4443 This is in Mac Faq since the problem is Mac side, not the NeXT CD-ROM side. You need a third party CD-ROM mounting software like CD-ROM Tool Kit or anything else. Apple CD-ROM extension works only with Apple CD-ROM drive. -- Satoru Uzawa, suzawa@unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 14 Sep 1995 17:44:46 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <439pme$hsn@styx.uwa.edu.au> References: <dcl.810942519@mercury> In article <dcl.810942519@mercury> dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) writes: > chin@clark.net (Chin) writes: > >Actually, I find it easier to deal with NEXTSTEP than Linux. NEXTSTEP > >has good or great support for certain new high end PC hardware. When > >buying a new machine, supporting NEXTSTEP is pretty easy. Getting > >NEXTSTEP to work well on older machines or machines purchased > >for DOS/Windows is much harder. Configuration is also easier with > >NEXTSTEP and 3.3's Plug and Play support. > > Basically, it seems that this stuff is going to be too expensive for me, > eh? A _good_ workstation for NextStep is going to cost, what, $3500? > It seems that the following are a "must": [P90 Munch] > Now, what I could reasonably afford is this: > 486DX4-100 > 16 M RAM > Asus Motherboard (VLB) > VLB IDE/EIDE > VLB Video > _no_ CD-ROM > _no_ sound card > 1.2 G IDE HD > 14" monitor > > Looks like I gotta say "oh well" to Nextstep... :( > > Daniel I've been running a couple of machines on spec's lower than that for a couple of years now: DX/2-66, 16/20Mb RAM, VLB and even ISA only, borrowing a CD-ROM, without sound card (but now with MIDI & DSP!(optional)) & 212Mb/1Gb disks and 14" monitors running 2 bit Greyscale. We also have a VLB 2Mb video, DX/2-66 colour machine 32Mb RAM & 17" monitor which is still doing great service for over a year now and just got a Pentium so we could retire a mono machine (more for politics and other users demands, it now is running Linux, BTW). The DX-2s are serviceable and can do a lot. The machines running greyscale are greatly reduced in their memory load, so yes, RAM for colour is a performance issue, not a preventive barrier. If you don't have a background in NS, you will have a learning curve where you won't be pushing the machine at it's limits anyway. Hardware keeps getting cheaper, so by the time you are ready to upgrade, you'll be spending less anyway. Accurate assessment of your needs is the key. If anything, I'd see if you can spring for a 17" monitor (eat less) as your eyes will thank you, regardless of the software you run. We would all like super-duper machines, but if money is critical, the performance of a DX4 would still be bearable and 16Mb of RAM can be expanded to 32Mb later, to reduce your swapping. I also disagree that getting NS working with older hardware was harder. In my case, all the machines were nameless clones. We installed NS3.1 onto them with only a minor hitch with the mouse (which has been fixed) and now run them on 3.2/3.3, also without major problems. Before I changed to NS, I used Xenix with X11, which comes close to Linux, but you had to pay for it. From my perspective, the change to NS was a quantum leap for the better, in terms of ease of use and improved software quality. The slower performance you get is more than made up for by the better integration and less maintenance, IMHO. -- Leigh Smith | leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME welcome) | +61-9-380-1945 Fax: 1089 Home: 382-3071 Computer Science |"In a world where success means gaining time, thinking University of | has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of Western Australia | time" - Jean-Francois Lyotard *=+--=--+--=--+--=+=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+--=--+=*
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason L. McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AddressBlaster -- Searching For Author Date: 14 Sep 1995 20:31:39 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <43a3fb$afn@news.onramp.net> References: <438cra$d68@usc.edu> pollak@mozart.inet.co.th writed >If anyone knows the name, e-mail address, or whereabouts of the fellow >who wrote AddressBlaster (wonderful App) could you please e-mail me. reichman@scf.usc.edu writes > What is AddressBlaster? Address Blaster is a contact manager / mailing list program. For more info, you can contact Kurt Herrmann (StepAhead Software) at kurt@stepahead.com or 619-459-9123. Jason -- Jason McNamara / jmcnamar@onramp.net (NeXTMail encouraged!) Bifrost Workstations, Inc. NEXTSTEP-optimized Intel & RISC systems 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 713.952.9949 voice Houston, TX 77042 713.952.9934 facsimile http://www.stepwise.com/Resellers/Bifrost_Workstations.htmld/index.html
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:11:22 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <43a5pq$oln@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <AXEL.95Sep14180134@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <AXEL.95Sep14180134@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) writes: > > We have made the screenshots available at > http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/index-e.html (english) or > http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/ (german) Looks like a slight error in the URL. I just tried myself and found that German: http://peanuts.leo.org/ns40/index.html English: http://peanuts.leo.org/ns40/index-e.html works fine. ..however, it looks ugly to me -- I like the current design better... -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Software for HP 7475a plotter Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:10:40 GMT Organization: Dept of Radiology, U of Alberta Hospitals Message-ID: <43a5og$i6o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Hi, I've got this old HP 7475A plotter sitting around and I wondered if on the off chance there were any drivers or apps or some such things that i could use to run this thing off one of my slabs (slab running 3.2). The plotter runs off a serial connection btw. Thanks Eugene Mah -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: publicareauser@swarthmore.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.s Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 1995 03:02:21 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <publicareauser-1309952302230001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42u8ef$g9e@pellew.ntu.edu.au> <431rb1$cl8@maze.dpo.uab.edu> <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> <DEuqv0.LvI@mv.mv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively > >> Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in > >> my basement garage has got you ALL beat. Wanna bet? You can't beat my ultimate supercomputer!!! It has FIVE BILLION symmetric multiprocessing 8 Mhz Motorola 68000 chips for the ultimate in backwards compatibility while still retaining an extreme speed advantage (although, admittedly, 1985 programs weren't designed w/symmetric multiprocessing in mind). Plus 500 gigabytes of RAM, a 40 terabyte hard-drive, and a 100 times CD-ROM for good measure (not that I would bother with a mere 700 MB of storage per CD).
From: joko@crl.com (Joe Kohn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:25:11 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <43akln$com@crl9.crl.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> <DEuqv0.LvI@mv.mv.com> <publicareauser-1309952302230001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Since all you Mac and PC and Amiga and Cray fans are such "power users," perhaps you could take a minute to learn how to edit the newsgroup line of this absurd flame war, and remove comp.sys.apple2 from it.
From: pmcgraw@apstech.com (Paul McGraw, APS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: 14 Sep 1995 15:20:48 GMT Organization: APS Technologies Message-ID: <pmcgraw-1409951021010001@pmcgraw.apstech.com> References: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> In article <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1>, jtift@dsu.deltast.edu (John Tiftickjian) wrote: > Our department recently received an older NeXT CD-ROM drive as a donation. > To make the most of this drive, we would like to be able to use it on a > Mac as well as the NeXT. > > I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with > the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the > desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a > driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. > > My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, > where might I obtain the proper driver? > > BTW: I'm fairly sure that the driver is communicating with the Mac SCSI > port correctly. SCSIProbe shows that the drive is being recognized at the > proper SCSI ID number. If SCSI Probe reports what mechanism is used (other than NeXT), copy the model information and contact any (or all) of the third party driver manufacturers. Charismac, Transoft, Casa Blanca Works, FWB all have good packages. They can tell you if they support the model of CD ROM you have. They can also tell you if they support a CD ROm which reports that is a NeXT unit to the SCSI bus (SCSI Probe), should that be the case. --doc ____________________________________________________________________________ Paul McGraw APS Technologies
From: thrall@mail.halcyon.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Spherical Solutions Date: 15 Sep 1995 03:39:55 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <43asib$c2e@news.halcyon.com> Is Spherical Solutions still around? If so can somebody point me in the right direction. I am looking to purchase a color NeXT and thought I'd check Sam out and see what he had. Thanks for the time, dean -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | thrall@mail.halcyon.com | - My wife |
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Spherical Solutions Date: 15 Sep 1995 06:32:42 GMT Organization: PhilosVille Distribution: world Message-ID: <43b6ma$k06@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <43asib$c2e@news.halcyon.com> On 15 Sep 1995 03:39:55 GMT Dean Johnson (thrall@mail.halcyon.com) wrote: >Is Spherical Solutions still around? If so can somebody point me in the right >direction. I am looking to purchase a color NeXT and thought I'd check Sam out >and see what he had. Yep, they sure are. I believe the page you are interested in is: http://orb.com/Inventory/index.html -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://philos.resnet.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sb6fb@rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 version 75 crashes on cross-posted articles Message-ID: <DEy09s.5tr@rivm.nl> Sender: news@rivm.nl Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene, Bilthoven, NL References: <43808c$vi2@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:39:28 GMT In article <43808c$vi2@godzilla.zeta.org.au> gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: > Has anyone else noticed that NewsGrazer crashes rather ungracefully > when faced with an article that is extensively cross-posted. > I use NNTP through to a server and when NewsGrazer gets an article > with upwards of 15 links at the file system level it just dies. I,ve heard that problem before from others. Until yesterday I didn't experience it myself. But I doubt that crossposting is the reason. When I marked some articles as 'read' in .newsrc that were non-existing anyway (according to the TIN newsreader) the problem disappeared. Some articles that were crossposted heavily (>15 newsgroups) did't do any harm (for instance some articles with the subject 'Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges....' in comp.sys.next.misc). -- RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and Environmental Protection Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15 | e-mail: sb6fb@rivm.nl Risk Assessment Division | e-mail: F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven | voice : +31 30 742962 The Netherlands | fax : +31 30 280174
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 version 75 crashes on cross-posted articles Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:17:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <43a64p$7ma@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <43808c$vi2@godzilla.zeta.org.au> gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) wrote: > Hi all, Hi. Thanks for cross-posting this article on crashes with cross-posted articles... :-) > Has anyone found a better Newsreader or a work-around to this > problem (assuming someone else has found this problem)? I know > NewsGrazer is unsupported and is unlikely to be upgraded (I was > lucky that it was rereleased for NS/FIP) but is version 75 the > latest? It is not the most recent version. You can check out NeXT's web site, http://www.next.com/ , for a new version. I don't remember the precise location for it though. It's also available via ftp from ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/usenet/NewsGrazer_f The latest version is numbered 77. It's basically release 75 plus two or three very welcome bug fixes. The other alternative is to start looking over the various alternatives to NewsGrazer. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: swallow@cis.ohio-state.edu (keith lee swallow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 15 Sep 1995 09:13:43 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science Message-ID: <43bu67INNlst@brain.cis.ohio-state.edu> References: <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> Keywords: RS6000 Acer Windows95 In article <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> ken.grey@dial.pipex.com writes: >egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: > > >>> >>> >>> >>This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? >> > >Warp reminds me of Betamax. Technically great but no software. > >Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered >mainly by the over 50's. Let me get this straight, Technically poor? What the hell are you talking about? Mac's with the PPC are far superior to any PC that would ever be on the market. The PPC has been around since about 85, probably even a little before. So while the PC are running on old tired out INTEL crap from the 70's that by the way is maxed out, the Little mac risc boxes are using technology that at this point is unlimited. Also a gig base is better than 640k any day.... Also if it is so outdated, than why did MS bring out win95, the complete MAC/OS operating system clone? I'm tired of people digging on macs. I have a PC and I hate it, but I can't afford an upgrade to a pentium or a MAC. But just because I'm stuck with Intel garbage doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the technical superiority of a MAC versus a PC. Keith swallow@cis.ohio-state.edu swallow.5@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Message-ID: <DExttu.GC@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950914133210.26015B-100000@hphalle6c.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:20:17 GMT The current release is playcd 1.3. Following are the notes of the to be released 1.4. NOTE: This archive was compressed using GNU gzip. Gzip achieves considerably better compression rates and higher decompression speeds than compress, but it is not installed on machines running operating system versions older than NeXTstep 3.1. You can get it from prep.ai.mit.edu and many other fine anon ftp sites. Hope it helps. Juergen Playcd 1.4 ============ This is the fifth public release of the playcd,play3401 series. Playcd is a program which reads the contents audio CDs, transfers them digitally over the SCSI bus to the NeXT itself and then plays them on the host system. As currently there is not yet a standard set of SCSI commands for this task, all the CD ROM drives which can do this do it in mutually incompatible ways. As a consequence this reader work only with the Toshiba 3401/4101/3501 and NEC 3X series of CD ROM drives. (We do have hopes though to incorporate support for other drives. Currently, the required OPCODE for Hitachi and Sony is known as to be 0xD8. But this has not been verified and this information is not to be relied on) Playcd needs to access the raw CD which on NeXTs is only possible for root. As a consequence it needs to be run either by root himself, or has to be installed SUID root. "make install" by root will install play3401 properly for general usage. Playcd has been heavily optimized to use as little CPU time as possible to the point that virtually all its CPU load is caused by system call overhead. This still leaves a CPU load of about 15% on a 25 MHz mono slab in addition to an unspecified load on the SCSI bus. So probably you'll not want to run playcd while recompiling the operating system or doing 3D animation , but for use with low-impact tasks like news/mail reading/writing, text editing or an occasional compile, it'll work just fine. If you find any bugs or have any problems feel free to email me. Carl Edman 2-3-93 <cedman@princeton.edu> Juergen Sell 12 Apr, 1995 <js@icem.de> Changes between V1.4 and V1.3: ============================== - received confirmation software works ok with TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3501TA drive (thanks go to gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Changes between V1.3 and V1.2: ============================== - added support the NEC 3X series. Should also work with the 1X, 2X and 4X series of NEC drives but has not yet been tested. - added stupid l option to get simplest form of table of contents - added d<n> option to begin inquiry at /dev/sd<n>. Default is '0'. - renamed project to 'playcd' to reflect added nec support. Changes between V1.2 and V1.1: ============================== - There is a slightly better chance that play3401 will work on NS/FIP hardware. - Play3401 will now also record samples directly off the CD to a standard NS sound file. - A number of minor bugs were fixed including one which made play3401s track numbering unreliable. --- Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49 511 4406-17 == What time do we live in when a wine's class matters more than its taste, == when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names == when changing title bars' colors to mainstream hype is considered progress?
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Address change and CD question Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 00:34:22 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950915002916.25818C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello NeXTDom. Just a quick note to say that my email address is changing. My new address is 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (ASCII ONLY, no MIME or NeXTMail, please) It will be activated on Sept 15, 1995. I'm not sure how long my current address will be valid, but <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> will be valid until probably May 1998 (expected graduation... but who knows what will happen by then!) My question is this: I recently bought a SCSI-CD for my external drive. Works great, I love it. Only problem is that the cable which is supposed to connect the AUDIO was about one inch (2.5 cm) too SHORT. There is no way this will reach. Anyone know of an 'extension cord' or any such thing? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k First Try: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu If that fails: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (after Sept 15th 95) NOTE: 476tjl is ASCII only!!!!!!
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Software for HP 7475a plotter Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 15 Sep 1995 09:02:10 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <43bfei$kbu@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <43a5og$i6o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: : Hi, : I've got this old HP 7475A plotter sitting around : and I wondered if on the off chance there were any : drivers or apps or some such things that i could : use to run this thing off one of my slabs (slab : running 3.2). The plotter runs off a serial : connection btw. You must send HP-GL commands to it. To give you an example, I give you here the demo-program out of the HP7475 manual: 10 OPEN "COM1:9600,S,7,1,RS,CS65535,DS,CD" AS #1 20 PRINT #1, "IN;SP1;PA500,500" 30 PRINT #1, "LBCOMMUNICATION OK"+CHAR$(3) 40 PRINT #1, "PA1,0;SP0;" 50 END Hey, isn't that nice, good old basic. Don't forget to type "run" :-). Or better use some other language. OK, some important things: the plotter is a DTE, so you need a so-called null-modem cable. So connect 2-3 and 3-2 and then (I quote) "pin 20 of the plotter is cross connected to pins 5 and 6 of the computer to implement hardwire handshake". Now I find out that I lost the programming manual, but here come some major commands (out of my head): SP#; select pen PA#,#; move absolute PU; pen up PD; pen down OK, this should get you started. Happy plotting. Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel - is it viable? Date: 15 Sep 1995 17:57:38 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <43ceqi$d28@news.next.com> References: <dcl.810942519@mercury> In article <dcl.810942519@mercury> dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) writes: > Basically, it seems that this stuff is going to be too expensive for me, > eh? A _good_ workstation for NextStep is going to cost, what, $3500? > It seems that the following are a "must": > 24-32 M of RAM > P90 CPU > Asus motherboard (PCI) > PCI SCSI > PCI Video (2-4M of RAM) > SCSI CD-ROM > SCSI HD (1.2+ Gig) > 17-21" monitor > > This sort of system costs how much? > > Now, what I could reasonably afford is this: > 486DX4-100 > 16 M RAM > Asus Motherboard (VLB) > VLB IDE/EIDE > VLB Video > _no_ CD-ROM > _no_ sound card > 1.2 G IDE HD > 14" monitor > > Looks like I gotta say "oh well" to Nextstep... :( > > Daniel Actually, the lesser system you have listed above is a good deal better than the machine I run NEXTSTEP 3.3 on at home. (486DX266, 2 500MB IDE disks [not even EIDE], 16MB RAM). If you stick to 8-bit color, 16MB is plenty of memory. You can't install NEXTSTEP easily without a CD-ROM drive, but maybe you could borrow one. Really the hardware requirements aren't *that* outrageous, considering what you get. p.s. Anybody wanna buy my Gateway so I can buy a system more like system #1? Right, I didn't think so...:-) -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Computer, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 15 Sep 1995 17:35:43 +0200 Organization: private site in Munich, (South) Germany Sender: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Distribution: world Message-ID: <AXEL.95Sep15173542@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <AXEL.95Sep14180134@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <43a5pq$oln@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> In-reply-to: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de's message of 14 Sep 1995 21:11:22 GMT >>>>> "Helmut" == Helmut Heller <heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de> writes: >> We have made the screenshots available at >> http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/index-e.html (english) or >> http://peanuts.leo.org/ns4.0/ (german) Helmut> Looks like a slight error in the URL. I just tried myself and Helmut> found that yup, I should neverever make any postings from my home machine, when I can't simply drag'n'drop the URL into my editor -- second announcement, second error; but I made a link to the announced URL, so that both should work now (you should have seen the error log :-((( Sorry for any inconvenience, Axel -- Axel_Seibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXT/MIME-Mail) seibert@leo.org You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Followup to NEXTSTEP .tiff portability Date: 15 Sep 1995 22:39:12 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <43cvag$19f5@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - It's taken a while for me to report back, but at least it's with good news. The OmniImage program available at ftp sites does the trick. I read in a file in the NEXTSTEP mystery tiff format, and save it to a gif format and it is readable by the rest of the world!! I knew I had had problems with NEXTSTEP gifs but failed to mention where. I have a program that creates gifs on the fly using NEXTSTEP routines. They look great on a NEXT, but no one can read them. IconBuilder can read and display them, for instance, but try as I might, never was able to save them in a portable format, even specifying 24-bit depth. There surely is a way, but it isn't particularly obvious. OmniImage does thankfully fill the gap, and recieves a heartfelt Kudo. Rich
From: m_spect@alcor.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 15 Sep 1995 23:18:01 GMT Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <43d1j9$p9s@newsflash.concordia.ca> References: <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> NNTP-Posting-User: m_spect In article John L. Graham <fl332@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> wrote: > >Would you look at the list this cr*p is being sent to... > >>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,au [List of a few dozen unrelated newsgroups, snipped] >I'd love to find the idiot that started this thread and throttle the little >sh*t. My newserver keeps messages going back a couple of weeks. This appears to be the original post that started this annoying thread: ----------------begin---------------- From: Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc, + aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys. + amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel, + comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc, + amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel, + comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc, + comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms- + windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc, + comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Mon Sep 04 00:08:10 EDT 1995 Organization: University of Queensland Lines: 9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. Check them out at my page at: http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html Graeme (graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au) --------------end------------------ I don't think it was this person's intent to start an on-going debate thread in all these different groups, but what he did was rather foolish since it _did_ stir up a debate. A debate in which people have neglected to check what newsgroups the original message thread was being cross-posted to! Now can we have this stop? Either remove the irrelevant groups when you follow-up, or don't reply to it at all, letting it die! Many of us in the Amiga, Apple II, NeXT, SGI, Sun and Newton groups are _not_ interested in reading this drivel! I know I'm not after nearly TWO weeks of this! :/ Mitchell Spector m_spect@alcor.concordia.ca / spector@vax2.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.s From: jet@eskimo.com (James Thiele) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DEypvC.G57@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> <DEuqv0.LvI@mv.mv.com> <publicareauser-1309952302230001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 19:52:24 GMT In article <publicareauser-1309952302230001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> publicareauser@swarthmore.edu writes: > >> >> Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively >> >> Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in >> >> my basement garage has got you ALL beat. > > >Wanna bet? You can't beat my ultimate supercomputer!!! It has FIVE >BILLION symmetric multiprocessing 8 Mhz Motorola 68000 chips for the >ultimate in backwards compatibility while still retaining an extreme speed >advantage (although, admittedly, 1985 programs weren't designed >w/symmetric multiprocessing in mind). Plus 500 gigabytes of RAM, a 40 >terabyte hard-drive, and a 100 times CD-ROM for good measure (not that I >would bother with a mere 700 MB of storage per CD). All of us on non MS newsgroups are fucking tired of this thread. Please limit followups to relevant groups.
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Software for HP 7475a plotter Date: 16 Sep 1995 00:00:03 GMT Organization: Dept of Radiology, U of Alberta Hospitals Message-ID: <43d423$qv0@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <43a5og$i6o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <43bfei$kbu@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) wrote: > eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: > : Hi, > : I've got this old HP 7475A plotter sitting around > : and I wondered if on the off chance there were any > : drivers or apps or some such things that i could > : use to run this thing off one of my slabs (slab > : running 3.2). The plotter runs off a serial > : connection btw. > You must send HP-GL commands to it. To give you an example, I give you here the demo-program out of the HP7475 manual: Ok, so i need to send it HPGL. I think there's a manual around here somewhere... Are there any apps that will take care of stuffing HPGL into the plotter for me? Maybe even a PS/EPS->HPGL conversion utility. I suppose doing the actual stuffing is pretty trivial. What I really need is something to generate the HPGL for me to stuff into the plotter. Pointers/suggestions anyone? thanks Eugene -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Patrick O'Neil <patrick@howard> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:49:20 -0600 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950916104727.20081A-100000@howard> References: <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <43d1j9$p9s@newsflash.concordia.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <43d1j9$p9s@newsflash.concordia.ca> On 15 Sep 1995, Mitchell Spector wrote: > >I'd love to find the idiot that started this thread and throttle the little > >sh*t. > > My newserver keeps messages going back a couple of weeks. This appears to > be the original post that started this annoying thread: What I find amazing is that someone would actually sit there and type in all those newsgroup names and then present a message that is smaller than the mailto line. patrick@corona.med.utah.edu
From: odonovan@violet.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris O'Donovan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: 16 Sep 1995 10:35:24 GMT Organization: Department of Physics, McMaster University Message-ID: <43e99c$ld9@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> References: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> In article <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> you write: >I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with >the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the >desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a >driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. I believe that the Apple drivers specifically check for Apple label drives and won't work with others even if the mechanism is the exact same. The drivers that ship with APS drives also check for the label. Commercial drivers are about $US60. You can buy an Apple CD150 for $US99. I'd buy the drive. -- Chris O'Donovan <ODonovan@McMaster.ca>
From: alokkher@ix.netcom.com (Alok R. Kher ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Cancel "Need a C++ Mac. programmer" Date: 16 Sep 1995 19:03:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <43f72m$16i@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> <4339n0$cp6@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
From: alokkher@ix.netcom.com (Alok R. Kher ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Cancel "Re(apologies): Need a C++ Mac. programmer" Date: 16 Sep 1995 19:06:05 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <43f76t$187@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <jdoe-0409952145240001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <42o3so$9qt@news-2.csn.net> <catambay-1109951054330001@129.197.23.13> <43352s$595@news.halcyon.com> <4339n0$cp6@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <434u1g$h84@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
From: tice@nai.net (Bradley D. Tice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 18:05:25 +0100 Organization: North American Internet Company Message-ID: <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> Not totally comparable. I have heard about Beta being as good as VHS, but they were only able to store about 60 minutes of video. You couldn't put a whole movie on it, it was bound to fail. And that is an eight track player you young whippersnapper. Macs are primitive, so why does MS Win keep emulating the Mac beter and better? In article <437pqu$fv8@soap.news>, ken.grey@dial.pipex.com wrote: > egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: > >This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? > Warp reminds me of Betamax. Technically great but no software. > Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered > mainly by the over 50's.
From: tice@nai.net (Bradley D. Tice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 18:23:52 +0100 Organization: North American Internet Company Message-ID: <tice-1609951823520001@tice.nai.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <sandrock.811045345@aries> <438qnb$e5m@pellew.ntu.edu.au> Maybe the Amiga will arise from the dead, maybe it will just sit on a respirator for a few years. In article <438qnb$e5m@pellew.ntu.edu.au>, jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) wrote: > The oncoming Mac onslaught is only to counteract the Amiga now that it has risen from the dead. It looks like all of this marketing hype is because Apple and MS know that the Amiga is back, and here to stay..
From: tice@nai.net (Bradley D. Tice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 18:14:15 +0100 Organization: North American Internet Company Message-ID: <tice-1609951814150001@tice.nai.net> References: <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Don't read it, just mark it read. In article <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, fl332@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John L. Graham) wrote: > I'd love to find the idiot that started this thread and throttle the little > sh*t.
From: alee@uniserve.com (Arthur Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 01:46:03 GMT Organization: Lost SoftWare Message-ID: <43fug8$644@enigma.uniserve.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: >I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change >them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. >Check them out at my page at: > http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html >Graeme (graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au) Hay that was cute!! //*\\ Arthur Lee Lost SoftWare Come visit my Web site -> http://haven.uniserve.com/~alee Mail me at -> alee@uniserve.com \\*//
From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 02:11:36 GMT Organization: Malch Enterprises Message-ID: <43g04q$asr@shellx.best.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <43fug8$644@enigma.uniserve.com> In article <43fug8$644@enigma.uniserve.com>, alee@uniserve.com (Arthur Lee) wrote: >Graeme <bc320994@student.uq.edu.au> wrote: > > >>I scanned some Micro$loth Winodoze 95 badges and used Photoshop to change >>them to the way they should have been done - if Micro$loth were honest.. > >>Check them out at my page at: > >> http://florey.biosci.uq.oz.au/Graeme.html > >>Graeme (graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au) > >Hay that was cute!! > >//*\\ >Arthur Lee >Lost SoftWare > >Come visit my Web site -> http://haven.uniserve.com/~alee >Mail me at -> alee@uniserve.com >\\*// > ummmmmm, excuse me, but, who wrote OS/2 ??? Clue: I don't think it was IBM. There are 25 os2 newgroups. Why don't you go there ??? -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". | | malch@malch.com Gary Player. | | http://www.malch.com/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: eadven@aol.com (Eadven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTlaser Printer Cartridge Date: 17 Sep 1995 01:57:49 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <43gdct$n9e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <42bkh4$lin@msunews.cl.msu.edu> HP92295A cartridge is the proper replacement if that's the route you go.
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Slab and non-ps Printers Date: 15 Sep 1995 17:53:28 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <43ceio$3gp@news.nd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Questions on two types of printers, namely Epson Stylus and HP 855, compatibility with black slab (NS 3.2). 1- I understand that the Stylus' "serial" port is not really serial but just an appletalk connection. So it could not be connected directly to a slab's serial port. Is this true ? 2- Has anyone used HP Desk Jet 850 or 855 (fairly new) with the black NeXT ? The 855 purportedly has a "port for MacIntosh". It is an RS-422-A serial. Is this port also an Appletalk or is it connectible to the NeXT ? 3- I understand that NS3.2 has the Appletalk driver included. Should the above printers, assuming they have Appletalk ports, be directly connected to the slab and work ? 4- To utilize the serial port one could use such drivers as JetPilot, eXTRAPRINT or DOTS. What hardware connections (cables) should one use to connect the parallel port (or the Appletalk port) of the printer to NeXT ? All solutions, particularly the most economic ones, would be welcome. My searches on the net with the keyword "JetPilot" have not been able to find the company that sells JetPilot. Does anyone know ? I'd appreciate responses and info with as much detail as possible . Thank you. Best Regards, Amir
From: jamesm@nutmeg.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Date: 17 Sep 1995 07:41:07 GMT Organization: Northern Territory University Message-ID: <43gjej$c73@pellew.ntu.edu.au> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> Bradley D. Tice (tice@nai.net) wrote: : Not totally comparable. I have heard about Beta being as good as VHS, but : they were only able to store about 60 minutes of video. You couldn't put a : whole movie on it, it was bound to fail. And that is an eight track player : you young whippersnapper. Macs are primitive, so why does MS Win keep : emulating the Mac beter and better? Actually BETA can store about 180mins per tape; although they are really expensive. VHS is way cheaper. Macs are primitive, so why do they try to get an OS like the Amiga? : In article <437pqu$fv8@soap.news>, ken.grey@dial.pipex.com wrote: : > egerton@ix.netcom.com (Egerton) wrote: : > >This Mac os vs. Windows thread, isn't it a bit like a Betamax vs. VHS? : > Warp reminds me of Betamax. Technically great but no software. : > Macs are like old 9-track car players. Technically poor and remembered : > mainly by the over 50's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: procmail-3.11 for m68k References: <9509110446.AA14090@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 07:20:31 GMT Message-ID: <1995Sep17.072031.9884@proximus.north.de> In article <9509110446.AA14090@charisma.capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU> wrote: >I've heard tell that this will compile under NS 3.2, but my attempt >bombed out with this message: [...] To compile procmail (and many other sources) on 3.2, you simply need to make a directory like /usr/local/include/ansibsd and symlink all /usr/include/ansi files and all /usr/include/bsd files that are not already in /usr/include/ansi to it. Then define USRINCLUDE = /usr/local/include/ansibsd in the Makefile. Off you go. If you still have problems, I can send you the binaries. Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <doug@thoughtful.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:06:59 -0600 From: doug@thoughtful.com (Douglas Simons) Message-ID: <9509182206.AA00753@thoughtful.com> Subject: Re: NS Software for HP 7475a plotter eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: > GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan > ) wrote: > > eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: > > : Hi, > > : I've got this old HP 7475A plotter sitting around > > : and I wondered if on the off chance there were any > > : drivers or apps or some such things that i could > > : use to run this thing off one of my slabs (slab > > : running 3.2). The plotter runs off a serial > > : connection btw. > > > You must send HP-GL commands to it. To give you an > > example, I give you here the demo-program out of the > > HP7475 manual: > > Ok, so i need to send it HPGL. I think there's a manual > around here somewhere... > > Are there any apps that will take care of stuffing HPGL > into the plotter for me? Maybe even a PS/EPS->HPGL > conversion utility. I suppose doing the actual stuffing > is pretty trivial. What I really need is something to > generate the HPGL for me to stuff into the plotter. > > Pointers/suggestions anyone? You could use HyperSense, which has built-in commands to easily access the serial ports and send any commands you like. As an interpreted environment, it should be very easy to experiment with sending different commands to your plotter to find out what works. For example, taking the BASIC code sent in by another poster: > 10 OPEN "COM1:9600,S,7,1,RS,CS65535,DS,CD" AS #1 > 20 PRINT #1, "IN;SP1;PA500,500" > 30 PRINT #1, "LBCOMMUNICATION OK"+CHAR$(3) > 40 PRINT #1, "PA1,0;SP0;" > 50 END the equivalent in SenseTalk (HyperSense's scripting language) would be something like: open port a -- (set baudrate & other params. first if needed) write "IN;SP1;PA500,500" & CRETURN to port a write "LBCOMMUNICATION OK" & NumToChar(3) & CRETURN to port a write "PA1,0;SP0;" to port a close port a The nice thing is that you could issue these commands (or variations on them) one at a time from the Message Box to figure out what works, then wrap up the useful functionality into your own commands (moveTo, drawTo, etc.) to make it even easier to work with. You can pick up a copy in the HyperSense directory at ftp.cs.orst.edu and try this in demo mode (get the HyperSenseApp and HyperSenseDocs packages to try this). I'd be happy to help you out if it's not clear how to do what I'm suggesting. Note: As a student, you can buy a full developer license for just $99. Disclaimer Notice: As the chief architect of HyperSense, I can hardly be expected to have an unbiased opinion of the program :-) ... but give it a try -- I think you'll like it! Regards, Doug Simons Thoughtful Software
From: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (Kevin Parks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES- thingy Date: 19 Sep 1995 00:46:46 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <43lhvm$3oq@atrium16.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Hi all, here's a dumb question: I running NeXTStep 3.2 on a NeXTStation and i would like my login panel to bounce around when no one is logged in. I sometimes run really big jobs that go for 30 or 40 hours and i want to be able to logout and not have the login panel burn in. I have looked for hours and hours for info on how to do this in the on line documents, But to no avail. I know tha under 3.0 it was something like: % dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES % dwrite loginwindow MovementRate 0.05 % dwrite loginwindow MovementScale 3 % dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout 60.0 But that didn't work for me. Anyone know how to do this under3.2? Many thanks, kevin
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 18 Sep 1995 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <43iroe$e4p@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES- thingy Date: 19 Sep 1995 10:28:20 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <43m604$ejo@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <43lhvm$3oq@atrium16.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kevin Parks (kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu) wrote: : Hi all, : here's a dumb question: : I running NeXTStep 3.2 on a NeXTStation and i would like my login panel to : bounce around when no one is logged in. I sometimes run really big jobs that : go for 30 or 40 hours and i want to be able to logout and not have the login : panel burn in. : I have looked for hours and hours for info on how to do : this in the on line documents, But to no avail. : I know tha under 3.0 it was something like: : % dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES : % dwrite loginwindow MovementRate 0.05 : % dwrite loginwindow MovementScale 3 : % dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout 60.0 I use the following: loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES loginwindow ScreenSaverEnabled YES loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES loginwindow TimeToDim 20 This makes the loginwindow disappear after 20 seconds being replaced by a NeXT-cube which moves around from time to time. It also disables power down. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStations won't boot! Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:24:10 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1409951418550001@ip-205.162.83.22.superstore.com> References: <433u6s$bmk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> > "reboot complete". One of the two hung computers then gives a > message about "NFS server not responding" and then later another message > about "non-existant user dump". These messages may be caused by the > fact that the other hung computer is the NetInfo Server. Oddly enough > the other 3 computers are fine and we can even access the files on the > 2 hung computers by cd /Net. I have seen the "NFS server not responding" message, and typing control-c at this point will bring the machine back up, but you will still have network problems. I would try shutting down all five machines and bringing up the one that is the NFS server first. Once you can get it all set up and running, boot the other four. I don't manage a network of these things, just one, so I guarantee success here, but it should get you started. Joel
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: Using NeXT CD-ROM on Mac Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:27:37 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1409951422230001@ip-205.162.83.22.superstore.com> References: <jtift-1409951157160001@192.0.2.1> > My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, > where might I obtain the proper driver? FWB CD-ROM toolkit will support the Next CD-ROM on a mac. It is available for like $50 mail order. Hope this helps! | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OmniImage (Was: Followup to NEXTSTEP .tiff portability) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 14:13:32 -0400 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950917141042.1414H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <199509170747.HAA19276@beep.roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199509170747.HAA19276@beep.roadrunner.com> my hardware: m68k OmniImage 3.2 I open a .gif (through OmniImage's Open menu item) and ImageViewer starts. I can save it as GIF or TIFF. I open a .tiff it opens in OmniImage without ImageViewer and I can save it only as a TIFF strange... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k First Try: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu If that fails: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (after Sept 15th 95) NOTE: 476tjl is ASCII only!!!!!!
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Trouble with OmniWeb Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:54:11 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Message-ID: <950918085411.4123AADoE.tpugh@tsunami> References: <DEuwAE.Bq5@serval.net.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII OmniWeb is not the problem. Yahoo has moved from its Stanford to http://www.yahoo.com/search.html - Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail, MIME, Sun , or Ascii mail ok! --------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc From: smvorker@maplesoft.on.ca (Stefan M. Vorkoetter) Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Message-ID: <DF42K8.70L@maplesoft.on.ca> Sender: news@maplesoft.on.ca (News File Owner) Organization: Waterloo Maple Software Inc. References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> <43gjej$c73@pellew.ntu.edu.au> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 17:14:32 GMT In article <43gjej$c73@pellew.ntu.edu.au>, James McArthur <jamesm@nutmeg.it.ntu.edu.au> wrote: >Bradley D. Tice (tice@nai.net) wrote: >: Not totally comparable. I have heard about Beta being as good as VHS, but >: they were only able to store about 60 minutes of video. You couldn't put a >: whole movie on it, it was bound to fail. And that is an eight track player >: you young whippersnapper. Macs are primitive, so why does MS Win keep >: emulating the Mac beter and better? > >Actually BETA can store about 180mins per tape; although they are really >expensive. VHS is way cheaper. Two things: 1. What is this doing on a Newton newsgroup? 2. Let me join the feeding frenzy: One of the reasons it took me so long to switch to VHS from my old BETA machine is the poor picture quality when running VHS in EP mode. My ancient Beta machine gave me 5.5 hours of time in BetaIII mode on an L830 tape with better quality. Stefan -- |\^/| Stefan Vorkoetter - Waterloo Maple Software ._|\| |/|_. Senior Software Designer \ MAPLE / Phone: (519) 747-2373 Fax: (519) 747-5284 <_________> Electronic Mail: smvorkoetter@maplesoft.on.ca
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com> Newsgroups: us.jobs.offered,nyc.jobs.wanted,ny.wanted,nj.wanted,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,chi.jobs,biz.next.newprod Subject: CHICAGO: Systems Manager (Next & Sybase) to 90K Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 21:19:47 PDT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.18885.811485402.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Summary Systems manager position responsible for the overall architecture, design, development and support of the global applications, systems and processes in support of the objectives of the Business Management team within Information Technology. Skills: - Next Programming experience including > 2 yrs. development experience w/ ObjC - Sybase Administratrion and Syabse Reporting tools and applications - Advanced SQL programming - Unix networking and shell programming experience - working knowledge of DBKit and EOF applicaion frameworks Contact Mike Hartnett for more information: Technical Options P-708.357.9400 F-708.357.9411 toi@mcs.com
From: Howard Ship Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Trouble with OmniWeb Date: 18 Sep 1995 15:40:05 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: us Message-ID: <43k3sl$1q3@transfer.stratus.com> References: <DEuwAE.Bq5@serval.net.wsu.edu> In Trouble with OmniWeb comp.sys.next.misc <ArticleDisplayer: 0x41541c> writes, > When I click the Yahoo button I get: > > Request Failed > Can't Access Document > http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/ > > Reason: Can't locate remote host > akebono.stanford.edu No, it's just movied: http://www.yahoo.com/ -- I don't know WHY I said that.. I think it came from the FILLINGS in my rear molars.. Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750 (4sale) `88 FZR1000 (Zed) "I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 18 Sep 1995 11:29:35 -0400 Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina Message-ID: <dcl.811438132@mercury> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <43987k$6mb@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) writes: > The screen-shot of NEXTSTEP 4.0 is not available anymore! I saved one of them. You can visit it at: http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/NewNS4Mockup.jpg I'll put a link to it on my main page: http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ Daniel -- Daniel C. L'Hommedieu Interpath Technical Support dcl@interpath.net 800-890-6305 / 919-890-6305 WOTD: interpolate For account info, mail to: http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ info@interpath.net
From: rhofmann@crl.com (Roger Hofmann) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.quake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,rec.games.computer.doom.misc Subject: RFD: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,editing,misc} Followup-To: news.groups Date: 19 Sep 1995 17:16:37 -0000 Organization: . Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <43mttl$83h@rodan.UU.NET> Archive-Name: rec.games.computer.quake REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.games.computer.quake.announce unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.editing unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.misc Note: this is a Request For Discussion, not a Call For Votes. Do not send your votes now. Instead, post your comments about this proposal in news.groups. Please read the whole RFD before posting a followup. ] Newsgroup lines: rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/announcements about Quake. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files. rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion about Quake. RATIONALE: all groups The rec.games.computer.quake hierarchy is intended for discussing various topics relating to the computer game Quake, written by id Software (the makers of Doom) and its sequels and user-written add-ons. Quake is a highly customizable 3D first-person action/adventure game scheduled for release in December 1995. The servers and clients will be available on many different types of computers and platforms, as Doom was. Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of messages about Quake. The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes, the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is around 51%). Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide. | Actual number of readers in sampled population | | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all | | | Recent traffic (messages per month) | | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month) | | | | | Crossposting percentage | | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr | | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders | | | | | | | | who read this group. Month Rank V V V V V V V V jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will be posted in November when more information about Quake is available. These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic messages in other newsgroups. WHY THREE GROUPS? It is likely that Quake will be a very successful game and will require more than three newsgroups. Several other names have already been discussed on the quake-proposal mailing list. However, it is uncommon in Usenet to create many groups about something which doesn't exist yet (although the game will be released by the time the groups are created). In order to limit the risks of having people voting against the creation of a large number of newsgroups, we chose to limit the number of groups to three. The three names r.g.c.q.announce, r.g.c.q.misc and r.g.c.q.editing were selected for the following reasons: - A moderated group (.announce) is needed in order to avoid a great number of redundant messages when something new is available. It will also be useful for the people who do not want to subscribe to the high-volume discussion groups but still want to be informed about Quake. - The two most popular topics will certainly be playing and editing the game. For comparison purposes, r.g.c.d.playing and r.g.c.d.editing are the two Doom newsgroups that get the highest traffic. - It is better to have a .misc group in the new hierarchy which will provide a forum where other topics can be discussed. Otherwise, there would be no place to discuss things that are not directly related to playing or editing the game, such as setup problems, FTP issues, discussions about the game engine, etc. This is why .misc (for gameplay issues as well as other topics) and .editing are proposed first, instead of .playing and .editing. The playing subjects will be discussed in .misc initially and will be moved to a more appropriate group later (probably r.g.c.q.playing). See the "epilogue" section below for a list of the newsgroups that will probably be included in a separate proposal, to be posted when more information about Quake is available. END RATIONALE. CHARTER: all groups In general, cross-posting among discussion groups is strongly discouraged. Articles posted to .announce can be cross-posted to other relevant groups. No binaries should be posted in these groups. When relevant, short excerpts of source code or configuration files may be included in an article, but binaries and code in general should be posted in a more appropriate alt.binaries group (like alt.binaries.quake if this group is created). END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.announce This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings, announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new servers, reviews, etc. END CHARTER. MODERATION: rec.games.computer.quake.announce The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the following addresses: Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) END MODERATION. CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.editing Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software will release an editor which will allow people to create their own universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some of them have already been developed but will not be released before Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors, editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats. Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc instead (or in .playing when this group is created). CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.misc This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created. Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with other games, piracy, etc. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake. END CHARTER. EPILOGUE: This RFD proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Many people would like to see more groups about Quake; they will be included in a future proposal for the reasons explained above. Here are some suggested names for the other newsgroups (to be discussed later): rec.games.computer.quake.help Questions on Quake and add-ons rec.games.computer.quake.playing Playing Quake and add-ons rec.games.computer.quake.multiplayer Multiplayer games and Quake servers rec.games.computer.quake.programming New game algorithms The group r.g.c.q.misc will be a replacement for alt.games.quake, whose poor propagation and now-redundant status make it no longer needed. Therefore, alt.games.quake will be removed two weeks after the creation of r.g.c.q.misc in order to prevent the sort of confusion and duplication of resources that is found in alt.games.doom now that the rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy exists. PROCEDURE: The discussion period lasts 21 days from the initial post of this RFD. If there are no major objections to the naming or placement, then the CFV (Call For Votes) will be issued, lasting for 22 days. Following the vote, there is a 5 day discussion period after which newsgroups that passed will be newgrouped by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups. Followups to this post are directed to news.groups, which is where further discussion will take place. Cross-posted followups are discouraged. Please read news.groups to participate. Thank you! DISTRIBUTION: Posted To: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.games.quake, comp.sys.mac.games.action, comp.sys.sgi.misc, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, comp.os.linux.misc, rec.games.computer.doom.misc, comp.os.os2.games, comp.sys.next.misc Copy mailed to: quake-servers@ftp.idsoftware.com doom-editing@nvg.unit.no dooml@doomgate.cs.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: 17" Fimi monitor has died, looking for info on replacing Message-ID: <DF5zys.Jr2@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 18:13:40 GMT The 17" Fimi monitor that I use on my server has died. I don't really want to replace it with another one of those, they're pretty crummy. I'd like to just purchase a 17" Sony monitor (and suffer with non-black), but what kind of monitor would it take to work? Would any multi-scan monitor work? Also, where do I get a cable that will go from the ND board to whatever connector might be on the new monitor? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: rauch@FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Erik Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: NeXTstation refuses to boot, no ROM-monitor Date: 19 Sep 1995 19:55:06 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Message-ID: <43n76q$frv@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Hi, I'm the owner of a 1991 NeXTstation running NS 3.0. The machine has been running smoothly since I bought it last month, but last week it began refusing to boot. The power key turns the machine on and the hard drive does its little self-diagnostic, but the machine presents only a gray screen (the same as the default workspace background) and does not even start to boot; the monitor screen doesn't come up. Command-~ does not bring up the monitor. Does anyone have experience they could share on what this could be and how to fix it? Thanks, Erik Rauch, rauch@cs.yale.edu
From: blazek@entropy2.stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Solution: Inexpensive NeXT laser printer repair Date: 19 Sep 1995 22:20:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <43nfnn$170l@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi all, I have bought a used NeXT but it didn't print. The rubber rollers didn't take the paper in the printer correctly. The rubber was too old. I tried to get some replacement parts, but I got a quote of $160 for the whole mechanism. I didn't search any longer and fixed the printer myself. Here is how. How I Opened the printer: 1. I unplugged all the cables from the printer. 2. I removed both, the upper and lower plastic covers. 3. I removed the part of the mechanism that covers the very first rubber roller - the one which also has the opening button on it. I didn't unplug its cables, I just turned it out from the printer. 4. The axle of the rubber roller (the very first rubber roller) has an electromagnet at one end. I used an 'appropriately adjusted' paper clip to hold the electromagnet in the open position. 5. Now, the rubber roller can be easily accessed and also moved. In one direction only. How I renewed the rubber roller: 1. I used "Lintless Head Cleaning Shwabs" by GC Electronics. (Made from foam, not cotton). With no chemicals on them (dry). 2. I have put on them "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer" - PRB LINE. Made for Projector Recorder Belt, part No. RCR-21. 3. I cleaned the rubber roller with the shwabs and revitalizer. 4. I have also cleaned all the other rubber rollers I could reach. And I also have put some "Synthetic Hydrocarbon Grease" on the gears. (PRB LINE, manufactured for Projector Recorder Belt, part No.608.) Then I have put the printer together, tried, and the printer works. What would I have done if the printer didn't work: (I am happy, that I didn't have to do this) 1. I would have opened the printer as described above. 2. Then I would have put a very thin layer of silicon 'rubber-like' glue on the very first, problematic rubber roller. 3. I think that I would have used a finger to disperse the glue in a very thin layer. 4. Then I would have tapped the glue with my finger to make the surface of the glue more rough. 5. I would have waited for the glue to dry, put the printer together and if it prints. If it didn't work, I would look for a replacement rubber roller. Well, I have fixed my printer and wanted to let you know how I did it and what my optional plans were. Notice that I have formulated every single sentence as 'what I did' and 'what I would have done'. So, I am not suggesting that you try it. Hope that you liked my story. Have a nice day, all of you. Rudy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics) Subject: SoftPC and D drive? Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 18:18:34 GMT Organization: Washington State University I would like to set the D drive to the DOS partition on my hard drive. The manual seems to imply that this is possible but I can't get it to work with the instructions given. I;m bringing up the preferences panel and choosing the drives icon. I then get a panel that seems like it should let me select the DOS partition, click OK and be on with my business. But, as soon as I select the DOS partition the OK button goes gray. I havn't yet found a way to make this work. Is it possible? How? Thanks in advance
From: smithjo <smithjo@cgs.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: uuencode/uudecode attachments Date: 20 Sep 1995 01:13:43 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA Message-ID: <43nps7$ehv@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> Is there an application that will allow you to easily decode uudecoded attachments running under NS 3.0 for Motorola? Is there an application that will uuencode attachments (uuencode only).
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PNI Problems Date: 20 Sep 1995 02:03:26 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <43nspe$sft@pith.uoregon.edu> I recently posted asked how to tell NeXT where the nameserver is. I did that, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. I still can't find any sited once I am logged onto slip. Coupled with the fact that I can't even telnet out using an IP address, I figured the IP routing was messed up. Using ifconfig, I noticed that the ip address the pnid daemon was using was not the one that the server sent me. I have been able to capture the ip address sent to me during logon, but I guess I am not correctly telling PNI to use that adress. Does someone have an example of how to tell TransSYS PNI how to configure the correct IP adress? I have the ip address in the $1 variable at login time. Thanks Nick Fogelson
From: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: umich.unix,umich.talk,umich.forsale,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT cube shipping box needed Date: 20 Sep 1995 00:56:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Distribution: mi Message-ID: <43noso$nol@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Keywords: cube, box, shipping, moving I'm moving in about a month and only have a box for my NeXT monitor. I would like to have a box (and the styrofoam inserts) for my NeXT cube as well. If anyone has any that I can have (or maybe purchase, I don't have a lot of money) I would appreciate getting a hold of one. I'm moving to New Mexico so I'd like this stuff packed well for a 3+ day ride. I'm looking for something in the Ann Arbor/Detroit Mi. area. thanx. -- Colin Eric Johnson | "check OUT the Big Brain on Brad" colinj@umich.edu | -Jules, _Pulp_Fiction_ | http://www.us.itd.umich.edu/users/colinj/
From: wasfy@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Michael W Ibrahim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing Legal Sized Docs? Date: 20 Sep 1995 03:17:21 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <43o141$11q@news.ycc.yale.edu> Hi, I'm using a NeXTstation (NeXTSTep 3.2) w/ a NeXT Laser printer. I have been trying to print documents on 8.5x14 inch paper. The page layout option in many programs seems to make this simple. Unfortunately, my printer doesn't seem to get the message. The printer cuts off the top 3" of the printing leaving the bottom 3" of the page blank. Further, the printer does not fully feed the sheet through. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? Any responses would be appreciated. Michael Ibrahim wasfy@morpheus.cis.yale.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new NEXTSTEP 4.0 screenshot Date: 19 Sep 1995 19:44:52 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <43n6jk$d86@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4326nq$rcg@cisun2000.unil.ch> <4379hn$m35@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <43987k$6mb@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at> <dcl.811438132@mercury> dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel) wrote: > tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) writes: > > The screen-shot of NEXTSTEP 4.0 is not available anymore! > I saved one of them. You can visit it at: > http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/NewNS4Mockup.jpg > I'll put a link to it on my main page: > http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ That is *NOT* the screen shot of the NS-4.0 ideas. That is one of the mock-ups of the NS-4.0 ideas, and it looks a lot worse (in my opinion) than the real screen shot did. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: warrl@blarg.net (Warrl kyree Tale'sedrin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 07:41:26 GMT Organization: None -- just look at my desk! Message-ID: <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> tice@nai.net (Bradley D. Tice) wrote: >Not totally comparable. I have heard about Beta being as good as VHS, but >they were only able to store about 60 minutes of video. Beta was *better* than VHS... but the people doing VHS came up with a way to put 2 hours on 1 tape more than a year before Sony did the same for Beta. That one-year delay was fatal for Beta. The Japanese learned... the *first* format they came out with for CD's has the rather odd-sounding length of 70 minutes. This is how long it *has* to be, to put Beethoven's 9th Symphony on one CD. That particular symphony is extremely popular in Japan; if they had not provided it, another company would have figured out a way to do so and then would have blown the original makers out of the Japanese market.
From: Rex Belcher <rex.belcher@eng.ox.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 20 Sep 1995 09:11:28 GMT Organization: Oxford University Message-ID: <43ols0$10t@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net> warrl@blarg.net (Warrl kyree Tale'sedrin) wrote: > > tice@nai.net (Bradley D. Tice) wrote: > > >Not totally comparable. I have heard about Beta being as good as VHS, but > >they were only able to store about 60 minutes of video. > > Beta was *better* than VHS... but the people doing VHS came up with a > way to put 2 hours on 1 tape more than a year before Sony did the same > for Beta. > > That one-year delay was fatal for Beta. > > The Japanese learned... the *first* format they came out with for CD's > has the rather odd-sounding length of 70 minutes. This is how long it > *has* to be, to put Beethoven's 9th Symphony on one CD. That > particular symphony is extremely popular in Japan; if they had not > provided it, another company would have figured out a way to do so and > then would have blown the original makers out of the Japanese market. > > > This has even less to do with SGI computers than the PC - Apple discussion? PLEASE kill this thread, or remove irelevant newsgroups from the header.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PNI Problems Date: 20 Sep 1995 02:17:17 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <43ntjd$mj3@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <43nspe$sft@pith.uoregon.edu> fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) wrote: > Using ifconfig, I noticed that the ip address the pnid daemon > was using was not the one that the server sent me. I have been > able to capture the ip address sent to me during logon, but I > guess I am not correctly telling PNI to use that address. > Does someone have an example of how to tell TransSYS PNI how to > configure the correct IP adress? I have the ip address in the > $1 variable at login time. I wrote up my adventures with dynamically-assigned IP addresses and TransSys PNI SLIP. Not only do I include something pretty close to my configuration files (which would be pretty useless to most people), but I wrote up an explanation of all the steps I go thru, and why I do them. It should be pretty helpful. Note that I do not offer to actually help anyone with their own setup other than to make this writeup available. I don't have the time for such adventures. You can pick my writeup up at: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/comm/PNI-DynamicIP.rtfd.compressed ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/comm/PNI-DynamicIP.README (apologies if those lines wrap, not much I can do about that). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to initialize/erase DAT-Streamer tape Date: 20 Sep 1995 12:12:19 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <43p0f3$c0@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Hi, I have a HP35470A DAT-Streamer. How do I initialize/erase a complete tape? Please e-mail your answers directly to juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de because I have problems with my news server at the moment. So I don't get all news. --- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: dellis@morgan.com (Douglas Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 28.8 Modem Suggestions Date: 20 Sep 1995 13:52:45 GMT Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY Message-ID: <43p6bd$oj6@sanews1.morgan.com> I'm using ZyXEL 1496E with NXFax software. I'd like to move up to 28.8. Can anyone recommend a 28.8 fax/data modem? --
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: weiyao@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Adaptec2940,fdisk and 3rd SCSI drive-help!! Message-ID: <DF7ILt.F2L@ipswichcity.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 13:53:53 GMT References: <430m9b$e8v@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Organization: Global Infolinks Internet Server, Ipswich Qld Australia Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software : I have NS3.3 runing on a Triton Asus Intel motherboard with a P5/100. I am : using an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller with the bios 1.2 rev . I have a : Quantum Trailblazer 850 (ID0), Seagate 1gig (ID2), Apple CD300 (ID2) and I : just added a Quantum Fireball(ID3) 1gig drive. I can start my system and i just added a Quantum Fireball 1.08GB HDD too... but NS kept telling me about that i didn't 'enable' my BIOS????? but i did... WHAT'S happen?????? : initialize the Quantum Fireball completeley as a NEXTSTEP volume. But, I how did you do it??? i have aha2940 PCI too.... but i can't get my NS format my HDD... (NS tell me that i have to enable BIOS first.. but.. i have) : partition. fdisk won't let me do that. It complains that the BIOS may be : disabled (it is not) and that NS won't be able to get accurate information just like me... but the different is that i can not even just use the whole disk, NS telling me i have to enable BIOS first.. i have pentium 90, 32Mb RAM, AHA-2940, and Quantum 1.08 Gb HDD.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk Subject: Re: SoftPC and D drive? Message-ID: <DF7rzy.o5@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com Organization: Insignia Solutions plc References: <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:16:45 GMT In article <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu> joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics) writes: > I would like to set the D drive to the DOS partition on my hard drive. > The manual seems to imply that this is possible but I can't get it to work This is a known bug in 4.0 The problem was that DOS doesn't like discs of >~520M. You've almost certainly got a SCSI disk bigger than that, even though the DOS partition is smaller. > Is it possible? > How? We've added some new code that fakes a new partition table so DOS only see's the DOS partition, and doesn't get confused by the large non-DOS bit. This is part of the 4.1 release, which is currently in Beta. Contact tech support for more info... Ian
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: ISDN on black cube, HELP! Date: 20 Sep 1995 19:59:22 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <43prqq$bb@news2.ucsd.edu> Keywords: hayes I am interested in getting ISDN on my Black Cube. Are there used or new Hayes ISDN extenders still available? Are there other options? How well does ISDN work on Intel platforms? What hardware is required? Thank you! Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: NetBoot question Date: 20 Sep 1995 18:08:46 GMT Organization: WHU Koblenz Message-ID: <43plbe$kqp@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de> Hi, does anybody know if it possible to NetBoot a NeXTstation, but have the /private dir on the local harddisk? I yes, what would be th easiest way to set this up? Please answer via email, my incoming news connection has too much holes... Thank you very much in advance, Wolfgang -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179 WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de Burgplatz 2 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-56179 Vallendar WWW: http://www.whu-koblenz.de/~wolfgang/ Germany
From: doyle@mmm.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 Modem Suggestions Date: 20 Sep 1995 20:33:47 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Message-ID: <43ptrb$snn@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <43p6bd$oj6@sanews1.morgan.com> dellis@morgan.com (Douglas Ellis) wrote: > I'm using ZyXEL 1496E with NXFax software. I'd like to move up to 28.8. > Can anyone recommend a 28.8 fax/data modem? If you act now (before Sept. 30), you can get upgrade pricing for Zyxel's new Omni 28.8 (special price is $269). Call Zyxel or visit their web page at http://www.zyxel.com/ . They have other Elite modems that are upgradeable to ISDN. Cheers, Mark
From: dover@biggulp.callamer.com (Dover Pacific Computing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Seeking information on inventory software Date: 20 Sep 1995 21:37:06 GMT Organization: Dover Pacific Computing, Inc. Message-ID: <43q1i2$m1a@clue.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-User: dover Keywords: inventory We are looking for a NEXTSTEP Inventory system. It can be either an application or API/source code. Even an unpolished system would help. If anyone knows of shuch a system, or of someone who has the experince to write a NEXTSTEP Inventory system on contract, please have them contact us. Thanks, -Mont Contact Information: E-Mail: dover@callamer.com (NeXTmail ok) Phone: 805-781-8317 Fax: 805-781-8319 Address: Dover Pacific Computing, Inc. 1540 Marsh, Suite 303 San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SoftPC and D drive? Date: 20 Sep 1995 22:41:54 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <43q5bi$h0q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu> In article <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu>, Wayne Joerding - Economics <joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu> wrote: >I would like to set the D drive to the DOS partition on my hard drive. >The manual seems to imply that this is possible but I can't get it to work >with the instructions given. I;m bringing up the preferences panel and choosing >the drives icon. I then get a panel that seems like it should let me select >the DOS partition, click OK and be on with my business. But, as soon as I >select the DOS partition the OK button goes gray. I havn't yet found a way >to make this work. > >Is it possible? Yes! >How? Set the D Drive in SoftPC Preferences to be nothing (Empty). Run SoftPC, and once you get the C> prompt, type "edit autoexec.bat". Add a line somewhere that says "net use d: /dos-d" (where "dos-d" is the name of your dos D partition). Save the changes, reboot SoftPC, and you should have access to your DOS D drive from within SoftPC from then on. This is crucial to getting Windows programs working directly within SoftPC, since they are so rigid on the exact directory structure from when they were installed. We use this as a way of getting Microsoft Word to run within SoftPC directly off the dos partition. Varun PS - has anybody found a way to get DOS 6.22 and/or Windows '95 to work in SoftPC?
From: pierre@nova.org (Thomas Piergallini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SoftPC and D drive? Date: 21 Sep 1995 03:13:21 GMT Organization: Megaweb Message-ID: <43ql8i$fti@news-e1a.megaweb.com> > In article <DF606z.776@serval.net.wsu.edu> Wayne Joerding - Economics wrote: > I would like to set the D drive to the DOS partition on my hard drive. > The manual seems to imply that this is possible but I can't get it to work > with the instructions given. I;m bringing up the preferences panel and choosing > the drives icon. I then get a panel that seems like it should let me select > the DOS partition, click OK and be on with my business. But, as soon as I > select the DOS partition the OK button goes gray. I havn't yet found a way > to make this work. > > Is it possible? > > How? > > Thanks in advance > Type net use d: /ms-dos_6 in your autoexec.bat file of your windows.hdf file. ms-dos_6 is actully the name on the file system where the drive is mounted, your name may be different. pierre --- Thomas Piergallini 3Com Primary Access Network Engineer VxMail: 703-749-4240 SkyMail:5497871@skymail.com EMail: pierre@3com.com, pierre@nova.org Send me NeXTmail and MIME -- Thomas Piergallini 3Com Primary Access Network Engineer VxMail: 703-749-4240 SkyMail:5497871@skymail.com EMail: pierre@3com.com, pierre@nova.org Send me NeXTmail and MIME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Downed Nameserver Slows NeXTSTEP To Grinding Halt Message-ID: <westesDF8DrC.7p5@netcom.com> Organization: U.S. Computer Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:06:47 GMT Sender: westes@netcom17.netcom.com We are running NS FIP 3.2 on an Intel '486DX2-66 processor. Today the power went out, and when it came back on NeXTSTEP appeared to be severely hosed. It would take forever for NFS to load, no one could login to the system, and it took forever for the login prompt to ever appear. It turns out that the name server, a Linux box, had also gone down. When does NeXTSTEP virtually collapse when an external name server is down? -- Will Estes U.S. Computer Internet: westes@usc.com POB 3150 Saratoga, CA 95070 FAX: 408-446-1013
From: marks@netins.net (Mark Strand) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Date: 21 Sep 1995 06:28:39 GMT Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, IA, USA Message-ID: <43r0mn$nao@insosf1.netins.net> References: <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu says... > >If I stick a regular CD in my CD-ROM drive, /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer >comes up. The panel is beautiful (in color), but when I click on play >there is no sound from my DACs. Also, I can make system beeps in my terminal >app while play is going on. Somehow CDPlayer is not connected to my DACs. >It knows about the CD-ROM though, because when I hit play, the CD-ROM light >goes on, and when I hit 'Quit', the CD is ejected. > I don't get that far... anytime I insert an audio cd in my cd-rom drive, it immediately ejects it for me, regardless of whether CDPlayer is already running or not.. So what's the trick? >Does anyone know what's going on and how I can fix this. > >I'm running NS 3.2 on black hardware. > >Jim Beauchamp >j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: cgra@se.bel.alcatel.be (Chris Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 21 Sep 1995 08:08:42 GMT Organization: Never was my forte Sender: cgra@btma74 (Chris Gray) Distribution: world Message-ID: <43r6ia$ri0@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <sandrock.811045345@aries> <438qnb$e5m@pellew.ntu.edu.au> In article <438qnb$e5m@pellew.ntu.edu.au>, jamesm@morinda.it.ntu.edu.au (James McArthur) writes: > Gee, I bet you lot are glad that this wasnt posted to an Atari newsgroup - > imagine all of those fanatics having this discussion :^) Ah, but there's at least one Atari maniac reading this thread ... ;> (And I really *do* have a network of five T-800 transputers humming away in my back room ... ) (<-8)-8 -- __________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gray Chris_Gray@bcs.org.uk Compuserve: 100065,2102 Opinions expressed are purely personal unless otherwise stated. __________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde) Subject: Redmark by Epitome Message-ID: <1995Sep20.151722.5355@cesar.uucp> Sender: pat@cesar.uucp Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:17:22 GMT ------------PLEASE REPLY TO THE ADDRESS BELOW ----------------- Epitome,Inc from Knoxville, TN, developers of Redmark for NEXTSTEP have moved apparently. Can anyone send me their NEW coordinates? OLD COORDINATES: Al Johnson Epitome, Inc. 716 Summit Lake Court, Suite 100, Knoxville, TN USA 37922 3156 Phone: 1-615-675-0910 Fax: 1-615-966-2558 E-Mail: 72677.1034@compuserve.com Thanks, -Andre al@lala.cam.org (NeXTMail and MIME) -- --------------------NeXT Mail Welcome------------------------- Patrique Lalonde Omnilogic 364 Wiseman voice : 514-953-6174 Outremont, Qc e-mail: pat%cesar@cam.org
From: rob@cc.gatech.edu (Rob McCurley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Resurrecting a NeXTStation? Date: 21 Sep 1995 10:43:35 -0400 Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Tech Distribution: usa Message-ID: <43rtmn$2pp@lennon.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: rob I've pulled an old "black" NeXTStation out of mothballs and am considering returning it to productive life. It is equipped with: * 68040 processor * NS 2.2 * 8 Mb memory * 406 Mb disk Everything seems to run fine. My office ethernet currently connects several Windoze and OS/2 machines, and I have been able to attach and configure the NeXT. I'm considering using the beast as an internet server to attach to one of the local dial-up internet providers, but have some general questions before I even attempt it: 1) Should I upgrade the OS? I know there are known bugs v2.2. Does NeXT even sell upgrades? 2) Does NeXT provide any support for these dinosaurs anymore? 3) Any general suggestions or hints? 4) Should I just try to sell the thing (in the appropriate newsgroup, of course)? I know I'm sort of groping here, so any advice would be helpful. Rob McCurley Portable Systems Technology Atlanta, GA -- Rob McCurley work phone (404) 448-9823, fax (404) 448-4770
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: 21 Sep 95 14:49:32 GMT Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <mp.811694972@maud.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> <43e99c$ld9@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> odonovan@violet.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris O'Donovan) writes: >In article <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> you write: >>I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with >>the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the >>desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a >>driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. >I believe that the Apple drivers specifically check for Apple label >drives and won't work with others even if the mechanism is the exact >same. >The drivers that ship with APS drives also check for the label. >Commercial drivers are about $US60. You can buy an Apple CD150 for >$US99. I'd buy the drive. Maybe we should change our drives, since I use an apple drive on my NeXTstation? Martin -- Martin Pruefer DL8OAU (M.Pruefer@tu-bs.de) | Tel: +49 531/391-7453 Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | __ Fax: +49 531/391-5696 Technical University of Braunschweig | /\_\ Why use Windows since Hamburger Str. 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG | \/_/ there are doors?
From: spagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Resurrecting a NeXTStation? Date: 21 Sep 1995 16:24:16 GMT Organization: The World Bank Group Message-ID: <43s3jg$cub@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <43rtmn$2pp@lennon.cc.gatech.edu> rob@cc.gatech.edu (Rob McCurley) wrote: > I've pulled an old "black" NeXTStation out of mothballs and am > considering returning it to productive life. ... > Everything seems to run fine. My office ethernet currently connects > several Windoze and OS/2 machines, and I have been able to attach and > configure the NeXT. I'm considering using the beast as an internet > server to attach to one of the local dial-up internet providers, but > have some general questions before I even attempt it: > > 1) Should I upgrade the OS? I know there are known bugs v2.2. Does > NeXT even sell upgrades? Yes, you can get upgrades for it (current version is 3.3). Not sure if it would matter for your intended use. > 2) Does NeXT provide any support for these dinosaurs anymore? YOu can get hardware support from Pacific Bell. But anything serious enough to warrant it will probably be uneconomic to fix. > 3) Any general suggestions or hints? > 4) Should I just try to sell the thing (in the appropriate newsgroup, > of course)? Well, for compatibility's sake, it may make sense to have all your systems running the same thing. To me, the solution is obvious: dumpo your Windows and OS/2 boxes and replace them with NeXTSTEP boxes so they'll be compatible with your NeXTstation ;-) Stefano
From: jtift@dsu.deltast.edu (John Tiftickjian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:31:32 -0600 Organization: Delta State University Message-ID: <jtift-2109951132090001@192.0.2.1> Thanks to all of you who responded to my question about using a NeXT CD-ROM on my Macintosh. Your help is most appreciated. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= John D. Tiftickjian, Ph.D. Department of Biological Sciences Delta State University Professor of Biology, DSU Cleveland, Mississippi 38733 jtift@dsu.deltast.edu 601-846-4246 FAX: 601-846-4443
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: LATeX2e/dvips/magnification question Message-ID: <DF9xL2.DID@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 21:12:37 GMT Hi, I am currently using LATeX2e under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I would like to use the a5paper option and magnify the output by a factor 2 when printing/faxing. I seem to be unable to locate a dvips option for this. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: gmiller@inca.co.nz (Gaven Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Sep 1995 23:50:45 GMT Organization: INCA Message-ID: <43stol$afs@inca01.inca.co.nz> References: <catambay-1109951241100001@129.197.23.13> <DEuqv0.LvI@mv.mv.com> <publicareauser-1309952302230001@m13.mccabe.swarthmore.edu> <DEypvC.G57@eskimo.com> James Thiele (jet@eskimo.com) wrote: > publicareauser@swarthmore.edu writes: > > > >> >> Actually, my 2K-processor (DEC Alpha), 300 GFLOP Cray T3D Massively > >> >> Parallel Processing System with 128 GB of RAM that I've got humming in > >> >> my basement garage has got you ALL beat. > > > > > >Wanna bet? You can't beat my ultimate supercomputer!!! It has FIVE > >BILLION symmetric multiprocessing 8 Mhz Motorola 68000 chips for the > >ultimate in backwards compatibility while still retaining an extreme speed > >advantage (although, admittedly, 1985 programs weren't designed > >w/symmetric multiprocessing in mind). Plus 500 gigabytes of RAM, a 40 > >terabyte hard-drive, and a 100 times CD-ROM for good measure (not that I > >would bother with a mere 700 MB of storage per CD). > All of us on non MS newsgroups are fucking tired of this thread. > Please limit followups to relevant groups. -- A 40 terabyte hard-drive. You poor soul. Right now, my floppy drives hold more than that. How do you cope with such limited hardware? Lets start a collection to bring this poor individual into the land of real computers - with terabytes of RAM, exabytes of disc and all in a case no bigger than a supermarket tabloid. :-) :-)
From: pdonohue@stardock.Stanford.EDU (Patrick Donohue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to make New login windows Date: 22 Sep 1995 02:07:44 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <43t5pg$nmd@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I just acquired a NeXT Cube running the 3.2 OS, I was wondering how to change the login window. I have download several tiff's for replacement windows, but have not been able to figure out how to change to them. oh, I was also wondering what was the newest NeXTStep OS that will run on the Cube, and where could I get it? Thanks, Patrick
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 Modem Suggestions Date: 20 Sep 1995 22:47:13 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <43q5lh$2tj@gate.seicom.net> References: <43p6bd$oj6@sanews1.morgan.com> My USR Courier V.34 runs rock solid for PPP but I have not found a working NeXT fax software for it yet. But if you only need a data modem it is IMHO a good buy. If someone knows a *working* software for USRs please let me know. (Jollys Fax for Class 2.0 modems does not work....) Bye Frank --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: uuencode/uudecode attachments Date: 22 Sep 1995 06:21:53 GMT Organization: ex nihilo, inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <43tkm1$87@bud.shadow.net> References: <43nps7$ehv@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> smithjo <smithjo@cgs.edu> wrote: > Is there an application that will allow you to easily decode > uudecoded attachments running under NS 3.0 for Motorola? Is > there an application that will uuencode attachments (uuencode > only). Using TickleServices, you can write your own uudecode or uuencode services. As a matter of fact, someone wrote a uudecode service for TS. Good luck. -- Dino Bagdadi ex nihilo, inc. dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME) Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
From: peter@cicero.de (Peter Still) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help:NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:01:29 +0200 Organization: cicero GmbH, Rhein Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <peter-2209951001290001@psmac.cicero.de> References: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> In article <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1>, jtift@dsu.deltast.edu (John Tiftickjian) wrote: > Our department recently received an older NeXT CD-ROM drive as a donation. > To make the most of this drive, we would like to be able to use it on a > Mac as well as the NeXT. > > I have tried connecting the drive to a Mac IIci running system 7.5.1 with > the standard Apple CD-ROM extensions, but disks will not mount on the > desktop. With my limited knowledge of CD-ROM, I am assuming that I need a > driver on the Mac that is compatable with the drive. > > My question: is it possible for this drive to work on the Mac, and if so, > where might I obtain the proper driver? cut Hi John, have you ever tried the drivers from FWB? I am sure it will works. -- peter@cicero.de hang loose ;-)=)
From: Guido Sawade <sawade@physik.TU-Berlin.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex Subject: Re: LATeX2e/dvips/magnification question Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:45:51 +0200 Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950922114523.363F-100000@marie> References: <DF9xL2.DID@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <DF9xL2.DID@RnA.NL> On Thu, 21 Sep 1995 Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL wrote: > I am currently using LATeX2e under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I would like to use > the a5paper option and magnify the output by a factor 2 when printing/faxing. I > seem to be unable to locate a dvips option for this. Is there a way to do this? dvips -y 2000 --- Guido Sawade <sawade@physik.tu-berlin.de> TU Berlin, Opt.Inst. PN0-1, 10623 Berlin, FRG
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: S3 968 cards - driver required Date: 22 Sep 1995 14:10:23 GMT Organization: GFG Microsystems currently working at BT Labs Message-ID: <43ug4f$9ll@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only driver available the Videologic Grafixstar 700 (VMC/4Mb) is the generic S3. This does not support fully the 968 chip and so the refresh rates supported at high resolutions is well below what the card does under Windows 3.11. Anyone know of better drivers for this card? Thanks Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Redmark by Epitome Date: 22 Sep 1995 15:02:05 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <43uj5d$j1e@abel.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <1995Sep20.151722.5355@cesar.uucp> In article <1995Sep20.151722.5355@cesar.uucp> pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde) writes: > ------------PLEASE REPLY TO THE ADDRESS BELOW ----------------- > Epitome,Inc from Knoxville, TN, developers of Redmark for NEXTSTEP have moved > apparently. > Can anyone send me their NEW coordinates? They are out of business plain and simple. I have a letter from Al Johnson stating this explicitly. Too bad too, because it is/was a nice product. But then how many times have we read that in this newsgroup? -Richard Larson
From: steel456@aol.com (Steel456) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Objective-C Developers for the Northeast Date: 22 Sep 1995 13:55:51 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <43utb7$845@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Our client who is THE major player in the OO solutions is now recruiting for strong Objective-C NeXT developers. These positions range from Developers to Project Managers. These are full time positions and are to be filled ASAP.These are at the client site for a long term project. If you want to stay on the cutting edge please call us. These are full time positions. Please call Bruce Rennert Corporate Resource Associates 800-662-9797 Fax 800-814-3100
From: deniseh@shell1.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: uuencode/uudecode attachments Date: 22 Sep 1995 18:06:23 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <43utuv$4l5@shellx.best.com> References: <43nps7$ehv@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> <43tkm1$87@bud.shadow.net> Dino Bagdadi (dino@ex-nihilo.com) wrote: : smithjo <smithjo@cgs.edu> wrote: : > Is there an application that will allow you to easily decode : > uudecoded attachments running under NS 3.0 for Motorola? Is : > there an application that will uuencode attachments (uuencode : > only). : Using TickleServices, you can write your own uudecode or uuencode services. : As a matter of fact, someone wrote a uudecode service for TS. Yes, that was me! Here it is. Enjoy. # Begin TickleServices Version 1.1 Data "Menu Item" = "Mail/Uudecode Text"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Uudecode the selection. # Have uudecode put the file in /tmp, then move it to where user want\ s. # This TickleServices service was written by Denise Howard 5/20/93. set filename [exec awk {$1==\"begin\" {print $3}} << [pasteboard read\ ]] set currpath [pwd] cd /tmp if {[file exists $filename]} { exec rm -f $filename } if {[catch {exec uudecode << [pasteboard read]}]} { # User probably did not include the \"begin\" and \"end\" in selecti\ on alertpanel {Uudecode} \"Unable to uudecode selection\" cd $currpath } else { cd $currpath set newfile [savepanel -directory $currpath -file $filename -return] exec mv /tmp/$filename $newfile alertpanel {Uudecode} \"Saved in $newfile\" exec /usr/bin/open $newfile } "; # End TickleServices Data -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Redmark by Epitome Date: 22 Sep 1995 17:49:47 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Distribution: world Message-ID: <43usvr$hl2@miwok.nbn.com> References: <43uj5d$j1e@abel.cc.sunysb.edu> In article <43uj5d$j1e@abel.cc.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > In article <1995Sep20.151722.5355@cesar.uucp> pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique > Lalonde) writes: > > ------------PLEASE REPLY TO THE ADDRESS BELOW ----------------- > > Epitome,Inc from Knoxville, TN, developers of Redmark for NEXTSTEP have > moved > > apparently. > > Can anyone send me their NEW coordinates? > > They are out of business plain and simple. I have a letter from Al > Johnson stating this explicitly. > > Too bad too, because it is/was a nice product. > > But then how many times have we read that in this newsgroup? > > -Richard Larson Hello: I was very intrigued when I first saw Redmark. Unfortunately, it suffered from some extremely unfortunate limitations (how's that for diplomacy? :-): * No possibility to zoom in * A new document "sandwich" is created (document plus markup) instead of the markup layer being its own file containing a hot link to the document in question * No possibility to create your own markup symbols These limiations made Redmark all but unusable for our customers to proo and markup the fine print on their documents. So, we've been developing our own tool for this purpose that should be of interest to anyone who needs markup and viewing tools. If anyone is interested, please feel free to e-mail me: john@gscorp.com Best regards, John C. Fox http://www.gscorp.com
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wide-SCSI drivers definitive answer? Date: 22 Sep 1995 20:14:48 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <43v5fo$l8l@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Is wide-SCSI fully supported under NeXTSTEP for Intel? Although there are drivers that support wide-SCSI cards. The consensus is that nobody is seeing any throughput increase when going from Fast-SCSI to wide. What is the problem? If it is a driver problem how come nobody has written one that fully takes advantage of this? Tal Lancaster --
Tal Lancaster (http://www.compbio.caltech.edu/~tal/tal.html) The RenderMan Repository (http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/) ########################################################################### #################################################################### From: thrall@mail.halcyon.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT FAQ Date: 22 Sep 1995 21:22:49 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <43v9f9$en3@news.halcyon.com> Can someone point me to the NeXT FAQ. I can't seem to find it via OmniWeb and WebCrawler. Thanks, dean -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | thrall@mail.halcyon.com | - My wife |
From: jav@mercury.interpath.net (Joe Venturelli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install NS Intel 3.1?! Date: 22 Sep 1995 21:07:50 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <43v8j6$2lv@redstone.interpath.net> I have a Seagate Barracuda (4 gig) as SCSI 0 it tells me it cant find any disks, Is there any upfront work to do preparing the HD? Leave Email, Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: unusable recycler Message-ID: <B400633001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 22 Sep 95 15:40:00 EDT strange problem here. I can use my ~/.NeXT/.NeXTTrash (or whatever it is) folder by dragging things to the folder, but NOT to the recycler on my dock. The recycler does respond if I double click on it (shows contents) and the dot in the middle does show up if there is something there, and disappears if it is removed, so it is responding, but I can't drag to it. I think sometimes it works right after a reboot and I first login.... but I could be wrong. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex Subject: Re: LATeX2e/dvips/magnification question Date: 22 Sep 1995 23:25:27 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland. Message-ID: <43vd4n$f71@bell.maths.tcd.ie> References: <DF9xL2.DID@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes: > I am currently using LATeX2e under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I would like to use >the a5paper option and magnify the output by a factor 2 when printing/faxing. I >seem to be unable to locate a dvips option for this. Is there a way to do this? You don't say what output driver you are using. With dvips I think you can say "dvips -x 2000 ...". But you can also say \mag=2000 \documentclass ... at the beginning of your LaTeX file. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FYI: Mike Paquette is still a NeXT employee! Date: 22 Sep 1995 20:36:41 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <43vkqp$g7k@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Sorry for the wide distribution, but I've been getting absurd quantities of mail on this subject. I still work at NeXT. I am still a NeXT employee. I still work on cool software projects. I have not been immantized or imbricated. I don't drink Kool-Aid, and I don't have lithium salts in my diet. I still don't believe in UFOs, the theory of Atlantis, mcnext@aol.com, or advocacy newsgroups. I often work remote from NeXT, and use this AOL account as an E-mail drop and occasional USENET news drop. It's convenient. Please send any replies or queries by E-mail, so as to avoid cluttering up this forum. Thank You Mike Paquette
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Which was the "best" NeXT 17" color monitor? Message-ID: <DFBoCE.BqF@waldo.com> Organization: The WaldoNet Group Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 19:48:13 GMT I've heard of three: Fimi, Sony, and Phillips. I have the Phillips, and it's not bad, but if I'm looking for another, which should I get? Matt -- __ Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) BMW.--. /\_\ "Believer in all things well-engineered" /XX \ \/_/ hocker@waldo.com \ XX/ NeXTSTEP! NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here `--'325ic
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <doug@thoughtful.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 15:38:20 -0600 From: doug@thoughtful.com (Douglas Simons) Message-ID: <9509222138.AA01897@thoughtful.com> Subject: Re: NS Software for HP 7475a plotter Rameri Salama <rameri@bart.cs.uwa.oz.au> wrote: > In comp.sys.next.software article > <9509181521.AA22755@thoughtful.com> you wrote: > => eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote: > => > GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan > > [big snip] > > => the equivalent in SenseTalk (HyperSense's scripting language) > => would be something like: > => > => open port a -- (set baudrate & other params. first if > needed) > => write "IN;SP1;PA500,500" & CRETURN to port a > => write "LBCOMMUNICATION OK" & NumToChar(3) & CRETURN to port a > => write "PA1,0;SP0;" to port a > => close port a > => > > Can the scripting language also be used to communicate > to cards that are also in the machine, or can it only > talk to serial and parallel ports? Rameri, The interface is designed to work with serial ports, but you can assign each logical port (a,b,c, etc.) to any device (e.g., "/dev/cua", "/dev/cufb", etc.). Whether it would work with anything other than a device which is actually a serial port, I really don't know. If you've got a driver in /dev which acts the same as a serial port I would think it might work (but I'm no expert at all on device drivers). Why not pick up a copy of HyperSense (it's available by ftp at orst) and try it. You can try it out in demo mode, by typing something like this in the Message Box: set the device of port a to "/dev/mystrangedevice" open port a write "someCommandMyDeviceUnderstands" to port a wait 10 ticks -- 1/6th of a second, just in case read from port a for 50 -- arbitrary max. # of chars. put it into responseFromDevice -- do whatever you want with any response received close port a I'd be interested to know whether this works for you at all, and for what sort of device. If you have any other questions, please ask. Regards, Doug Simons Thoughtful Software
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wide-SCSI drivers definitive answer? Date: 23 Sep 1995 06:13:08 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <4408hk$36@shellx.best.com> On 09/22/95, Tal Lewis Lancaster wrote: :Is wide-SCSI fully supported under NeXTSTEP for Intel? Although :there are drivers that support wide-SCSI cards. The consensus is that :nobody is seeing any throughput increase when going from Fast-SCSI to :wide. What is the problem? If it is a driver problem how come nobody :has written one that fully takes advantage of this? : :Tal Lancaster I believe I was one of the people who responded in e-mails to you saying that there are a few wide SCSI solutions which work under NeXTSTEP. (For instance, I personally am using a NCR-825 based controller with the Symbios/NCR 8xx drivers and a Seagate ST-12450W drive.) Just because a system uses wide scsi though does NOT mean you will see a real world performance increase over narrow Fast SCSI solutions. Sure, the maximum theoretical throughput on a Fast Wide (16 bit) SCSI bus is 20 megabytes/second vs. 10 megabytes/secont theoretical maximum for Fast Narrow SCSI. However, for most users the SCSI bus is not the performance bottleneck since even a high end 7200 RPM drive such as a Seagate 32550 can't sustain more than 6 or 7 megabytes/second transfer rates from the platters. Thus most users aren't even saturating the Fast SCSI bus and so increasing the SCSI bus bandwith doesn't buy them anything. All that said though, there are a few situations where wide SCSI is an advantage. If you have multiple fast drives on the bus being accesses simultaneously, or a RAID unit, you might be able to take advantage of the additional bandwith of the wide SCSI bus. Also, many modern drives have large (512K or 1MB) caches on them and generally data from this cache can be transfered from the drive to the computer at close to the maximum speed of the SCSI bus. Thus, data transfers from cache may be close to twice as fast on a wide SCSI interface. However, due to disk usage patterns and system caching the real world impact of these accelerated disk->system cache transfers is close to unmeasurable for most applications. I suppose the bottom line is that, unless the bus is the bottleneck wide SCSI doesn't get you anything in terms of performance. And for most people, unless they have an exceptional disk sub-system, the SCSI bus is NOT the bottleneck. If you're looking to improve system performance you should take a hard look at where your actual system bottlenecks are before investing in wide SCSI - the money might be better spent on more RAM or a faster processor. -- Christopher Wolf / WolfWare cwolf@wolfware.com (NeXTmail & MIME accepted, finger for PGP key) For information about the NewsFlash newsreader for NeXTSTEP check out WolfWare's home page: http://www.wolfware.com
From: Politics@usa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Proposed State & Federal Regulations for the INTERNET! Date: 23 Sep 1995 06:57:04 GMT Organization: Wisconsin Internet Services Message-ID: <440b40$6ig@newsie.wis.com> Originator: Politics@usa.com Originator: glasrud@squeaky.free.org My name is Scott Glasrud, and I am running for the New Mexico State Senate during the 1996 elections. One of the reasons I have chosen to run is to combat the proposed state and federal regulations of the Internet. As you know, the Internet was never designed to be regulated! It was designed to allow communications in the event of anuclear war or a major catastrophe. I OPPOSE REGULATION, and if elected will fight to preserve your constitutional rights. HOWEVER, I NEED YOUR HELP! I am asking each person who reeives this message to send $5.00 to the Scott Glasrud Campaign Committee. If we pull together, we CAN protect our first amendment rights! HELP ME show the politicians the POWER behind this important NETWORK. Please send contributions to: The Scott Glasrud Campaign Committee 11024 Montgomery Blvd. NE, Suite 179 Albuquerque, New Mexico 87111 Thank you!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: indy@gryphon Subject: Re: Which was the "best" NeXT 17" color monitor? Message-ID: <9177cb$73033.bb@NT> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 13:48:49 GMT Distribution: world References: <DFBoCE.BqF@waldo.com> Organization: New Media, Ltd. In Which was the "best" NeXT 17" color monitor? comp.sys.next.misc <ArticleDisplayer: 0x2b5af4> writes, > I've heard of three: Fimi, Sony, and Phillips. I have the Phillips, and it's > not bad, but if I'm looking for another, which should I get? The Sony Trinitron was the best NeXT monitor; I have one running as the color display on a NeXTdimension. | Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media,Ltd. * steve@dave-world.net | | 217.344.5303 * fax 217.344.8981 * http://www.nm-ltd.com/NMLtd/ | | P.O.Box 742 | "Bobcat, do you like hamsters or gerbils?" | | Urbana, IL USA 61801 |"Well, there's more dark meat on a hamster." |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: CDPlayer Question Message-ID: <DFA8CI.Hy@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <43r0mn$nao@insosf1.netins.net> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 01:05:06 GMT In article <43r0mn$nao@insosf1.netins.net> marks@netins.net (Mark Strand) writes: > In article <43535p$heg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu says... > > > >If I stick a regular CD in my CD-ROM drive, /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer > >comes up. The panel is beautiful (in color), but when I click on play > >there is no sound from my DACs. Also, I can make system beeps in my terminal > >app while play is going on. Somehow CDPlayer is not connected to my DACs. > >It knows about the CD-ROM though, because when I hit play, the CD-ROM light > >goes on, and when I hit 'Quit', the CD is ejected. > > > > I don't get that far... anytime I insert an audio cd in my cd-rom drive, > it immediately ejects it for me, regardless of whether CDPlayer is already > running or not.. So what's the trick? > > > >Does anyone know what's going on and how I can fix this. > > > >I'm running NS 3.2 on black hardware. Read the friendly nextanswers - forgot which one. There is one dealing with this topic. Juergen --- Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax ++49 511 4406-17 == What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, == when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names == when changing title bars' colors to mainstream hype is considered progress?
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing Legal Sized Docs? Date: 23 Sep 1995 15:38:11 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <4419l3$b0d@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <43o141$11q@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <43o141$11q@news.ycc.yale.edu>, Michael W Ibrahim <wasfy@minerva.cis.yale.edu> wrote: >I'm using a NeXTstation (NeXTSTep 3.2) w/ a NeXT Laser printer. I have been >trying to print documents on 8.5x14 inch paper. The page layout option in >many programs seems to make this simple. Unfortunately, my printer doesn't >seem to get the message. The printer cuts off the top 3" of the printing >leaving the bottom 3" of the page blank. Further, the printer does not >fully feed the sheet through. > >Has anyone found a solution to this problem? Yes, the answer is simple, in theory at least. There are three micro- switches in the printer, just inside the slot where the paper tray goes. They are on the right hand side, and stick up from the bottom of the slot. They engage a tab on the front end of the paper tray, which encodes the size of the paper. The standard NeXT Printer paper tray has a green sliding piece of plastic to change this setting. When that piece of plastic is in the "letter" position, it engages two of those micro-switches -- the one on the left as you look into the slot (ie, the one toward the center of the machine), and the middle one. When the plastic is in the A4 position, then all three micro-switches are engaged. Now, as you have no doubt noticed, there is no position on this tray for legal (or any other) size paper. However, these trays are just the same as the ones used by the HP LaserJet II -- the same machines that we share replacement toner cartridges with -- and, a number of other printers (all those with the SX engine, I think). MEI MicroCenter sells such trays (either letter or legal size) for $38.00, and the legal-size one works fine in the NeXT Printer. In case you're interested (or adventurous or in a terrible hurry and willing to mess with a spare letter size tray), the tab on the legal size tray engages only the right-most micro-switch (the one farthest from the center of the slot. Hope that helps. John haugelan+@pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.dcom.isdn,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: Jacques Garbi Subject: UUCP settings for the ZyXEL 2864i ISDN modem Message-ID: <DFBpKC.nu@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 20:14:35 GMT Hi, I've been trying all night to switch from my old ZyXEL U-1496E to my new ISDN ZyXEL 2864i and I haven't been able to understand how it works ! Using a telecom app such as TipTop.app I was able to dial out and get a connection. The connection was said to be 64000/1200 bauds X.75. Now I don't know what it means and if anyone could enlighten me a little, I'd sure would appreciate. But my actual problem is that I am not able to change my L.sys file correctly. I took the old one as it was and did not change a thing. When I start a UUCP connection, I see one of the ZyXEL lights turning on (I think it's the RTS) but not the B1 light like I get with TipTop.app. It seems like my ZyXEL is not even trying to dial out. And after about a minute, I get the message Login Failed (which is normal since it didn't even try to dial out !). Does anyone here have an idea on how to correct my L.sys and/or my L-devices and in fact all the files that I should change ? Thanks a lot since I'm in dire straits. Please answer to me direclty by e-mail. I'll have more chances to spot your answers that way. I'll post a summary back on the newsgroups when I'll solve the problem. Thanks again --- Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Inc. Av. de France 33 1004 Lausanne Switzerland Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76 Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73 NeXTMail or MIME : jgarbi@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wide-SCSI drivers definitive answer? Date: 23 Sep 1995 18:50:49 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <441ku9$ko7@news4.digex.net> References: <4408hk$36@shellx.best.com> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote: > All that said though, there are a few situations where wide SCSI > is an advantage. If you have multiple fast drives on the bus > being accesses simultaneously, or a RAID unit, you might be able > to take advantage of the additional bandwith of the wide SCSI > bus. Also, many modern drives have large (512K or 1MB) caches > on them and generally data from this cache can be transfered from > the drive to the computer at close to the maximum speed of the > SCSI bus. Thus, data transfers from cache may be close to twice > as fast on a wide SCSI interface. However, due to disk usage > patterns and system caching the real world impact of these > accelerated disk->system cache transfers is close to unmeasurable > for most applications. The definative answer is: Get a DPT 3224/90W. Get a couple or more wide barracuda's. Add 16 megs to the cache (or better yet, the full 64megs). Step back in awe. It will work, and will make a difference. Of course it's expensive (sigh). -- Thanks, Later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: LATeX2e/dvips/magnification question Message-ID: <DFDnMG.KEo@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <43vd4n$f71@bell.maths.tcd.ie> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:27:52 GMT In article <43vd4n$f71@bell.maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes: > Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes: > > > I am currently using LATeX2e under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I would like to use > >the a5paper option and magnify the output by a factor 2 when printing/faxing. I > >seem to be unable to locate a dvips option for this. Is there a way to do this? > > You don't say what output driver you are using. > With dvips I think you can say "dvips -x 2000 ...". > But you can also say > > \mag=2000 > \documentclass ... > > at the beginning of your LaTeX file. Both "dvips -y 2000" (not in the man page) and "\mag=2000" (not in the LATeX2e book) produce the same: something that looks like 4 times as big, not 2 times. So, I should use "\mag=1414" for producing an enlarged A5 that will fit on one A4? Or something else (is there a standard choice for this other than 1000 times the square root of 2? Thanks, --Gerben And additional: -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: philip@cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Followup-To: alt.flame Date: 22 Sep 1995 11:58:46 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dept., Wits Message-ID: <philip-2209951008260001@macadamia.cs.wits.ac.za> References: <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> In article <4389ts$cc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, fl332@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John L. Graham) wrote: > Would you look at the list this cr*p is being sent to... > > >Newsgroups: > > I'd love to find the idiot that started this thread and throttle the little > sh*t. When making a post like that, how about setting the follow-ups (hope I've done this right, otherwise I'm going to look a right twit)? -- Philip Machanick Department of Computer Science University of the Witwatersrand, 2050 Wits, South Africa phone 27(11)716-3309 fax 27(11)339-7965 http://www.cs.wits.ac.za/~philip/ philip@cs.wits.ac.za
From: mlelstv@serpens.rhein.de (Michael van Elst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 24 Sep 1995 12:06:26 +0100 Organization: dis- Message-ID: <443e3i$jms@serpens.rhein.de> References: <4320hv$sci@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <jragosta-1209950848590001@ppp-1009.dca.net> jragosta@dca.net (Joe Ragosta) writes: >> people wish to consider "simple" in this day and age is to plug it in >> and it works. Well, sadly, the world is not like that at all. You >It is if you own a Mac--especially a Performa (with preinstalled software). Well, I made the experience that this is true unless you want to do something the software does not anticipate or you find a bug somewhere. Then you are lost. Reinstalling system software is then the best way to get a working system again. Doesn't say that your preinstalled software is still working. Regards, -- Michael van Elst Internet: mlelstv@serpens.rhein.de "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
Date: 24 Sep 1995 11:13:54 GMT From: Politics@usa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.440b40$6ig@newsie.wis.com> Control: cancel <440b40$6ig@newsie.wis.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <440b40$6ig@newsie.wis.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950924.01 for further details
From: mikecull@aol.com (MIKECULL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they s Date: 24 Sep 1995 12:21:56 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4440j4$msg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <443e3i$jms@serpens.rhein.de> http://fox.nstn.ca/~nstn2879/repair.html For General info on Backup Problems under Win 95 Please see my Home Page at the above address. Michael Cullick http://fox.nstn.ca/~nstn2879/repair.html Michael Cullick - Fax 713-466-1545 8103 Summer Trail Drive Houston, Texas 77040 email to - mikecull@aol.com no caps
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access Message-ID: <1995Sep24.212455.26899@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:24:55 GMT Hi, Iam looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access. Thanks Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: thrall@mail.halcyon.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXBench.app Question Date: 25 Sep 1995 02:01:17 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4452hd$knc@news.halcyon.com> I just ran NXBenchV2.0 on both my NeXTstation and on my Turbo Color NeXTstation and the .hostinfo information was kinda weird. My old NeXTstation is set for 58 tasks and 91 threads, but the newer Turbo Color (ADB) is set only for 37 tasks and 67 threads. Why is there such a difference? Does this mean that I can actually get more things done with the old NeXT? Any explaniations? Thanks, dean -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | thrall@mail.halcyon.com | - My wife |
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 25 Sep 1995 04:15:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <445acg$gqd@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: mikecull@aol.com (MIKECULL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <4440j4$msg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <4440j4$msg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: 25 Sep 1995 09:03:20 GMT Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <cancel.4440j4$msg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Win 95 backup Velveeta cancellation Does using inews really screw this up? Does anybody actually read cancel message bodies? -- Dan Zerkle zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu GCS d(---)(!) p- c++ !l u++ e++(+++) m s++/-- !n h+(--) f g+++(-) w+ t+ r(-) y+ You call some place "Paradise" -- Kiss it goodbye.
From: flet@worldnet.net (Francois LETELLIER) Newsgroups: fr.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for out-of-order NeXTs / spare parts Date: 25 Sep 1995 11:10:13 GMT Organization: World-Net information exchange, Internet provider. Message-ID: <4462ml$jhs@aldebaran.sct.fr> Hello, I m looking for out-of-order NeXT blackboxes to gather spare parts and either repair some of my damaged computers or set up new ones from scratch. Feel free to send me any proposal, since blackboxes are really hard to find: even bits & pieces could be of interest. Thanx in advance ! - FL. (PS : it s not obvious reading my address, but I m located in Europe. But nevermind, remember that if today electronic mail crosses oceans within a wink, since decades ago, "material" packages can be delivered all over the world ! :-)
From: David Hinz <7587678@mcimail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 4.0 Release Date??? Date: 25 Sep 1995 14:38:57 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <446eu1$1pq@hermes.dna.mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't been following the NeXTstep news groups real close lately, and I am now seeing messages about NS 4.0. Is 4.0 coming out soon? Is there a list of features that will be in 4.0? I'm thinking about upgrading to 3.3 in the next week or so, should I wait and just upgrade to 4.0???? Thanks for any info, David Hinz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: death@netcom.com (David Burrowes) Subject: PDF viewers? Message-ID: <deathDFH0CC.2Iq@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:55:24 GMT Sender: death@netcom5.netcom.com Where can I find other NeXTSTEP PDF viewers (and what are their names!!). OmniPDF (which I can't use merely because it requires the foundation shared lib) indicates there are others, but not what/where they are. thanks, david-john burrowes death@netcom.com davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
From: michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu (Michael G. Morrissey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configuration? Date: 25 Sep 1995 18:57:08 GMT Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to play around with, and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? I'd probably just run the machine like that for a few months, and then get a much larger disk and add several MB of ram. (Any suggestions?) Thanks very much, Michael Morrissey -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael G. Morrissey Design and Manufacturing Institute Software Engineer Stevens Institute of Technology 201-216-8052 Hoboken, New Jersey 07030
From: spagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDF viewers? Date: 25 Sep 1995 20:26:15 GMT Organization: The World Bank Group Message-ID: <447397$i5j@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <deathDFH0CC.2Iq@netcom.com> death@netcom.com (David Burrowes) wrote: > Where can I find other NeXTSTEP PDF viewers (and what are their names!!). > OmniPDF (which I can't use merely because it requires the foundation > shared lib) indicates there are others, but not what/where they are. This is at least the third time in as many weeks that this question has been asked. Scott: is it in the FAQ? Assuming its not, since of course your RTFFAQ, right?, look for PDFView.app or PDFViewer.app in Peanuts. Stefano
From: spagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configuration? Date: 25 Sep 1995 20:27:51 GMT Organization: The World Bank Group Message-ID: <4473c7$i5j@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu (Michael G. Morrissey) wrote: > Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to play around with, > and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but > is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? No. You need at least 8MB RAM, and more is better. Much better. You can squeak by on 105MB HD if you prune off some of the stuff you don't use in the OS, but I would recommend 300MB or more. Stefano
From: ccwf@thales.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 25 Sep 1995 21:25:46 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <4476oq$kh2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <431mve$69o@news.its.com> >perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: >> Hello all! I have a question regarding the resolution of timers. >> The man page for gettimeofday says: The time reported by gettimeofday is advanced HZ times per second. HZ is defined in <machine/param.h> and is how often the timer interrupt is serviced. By default, BSD-derived UNIXes service the timer interrupt 100 times per second (m68k NEXTSTEP apparently only does so 64 times per second, however). How much the system clock advances when the interrupt is serviced depends upon the current value of the tick adjustment in the kernel. Normally, the system clock advances approximately one second every second, of course. :-) In article <431mve$69o@news.its.com>, <chuck@its.com> wrote: >However, I don't believe there's any way for the OS to determine which PC >motherboard and quartz clock you're using, so there's no way for the system >to give you a valid response. For Pentiums and some 486 chips, the OS could query the chip for its ID information and time its on-chip cycle counter. Access to the on-chip counter is not prohibited by NEXTSTEP, so any programmer can compare it to the system clock to find the chip speed and use the on-chip counter for profiling. -ccwf
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 25 Sep 1995 23:03:10 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <447cfe$bhq@news.its.com> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <431mve$69o@news.its.com> <4476oq$kh2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ccwf@thales.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) wrote: > The time reported by gettimeofday is advanced HZ times per second. That's not generally correct. The system clock may be updated continuously, as the manpage indicates. A quick purusual of an incoming news feed which does millisecond-level timestamps shows that NEXTSTEP/Intel updates the clock with greater resolution than (1 / HZ). [ ... ] > For Pentiums and some 486 chips, the OS could query the chip for its ID > information and time its on-chip cycle counter. Access to the on-chip > counter is not prohibited by NEXTSTEP, so any programmer can compare it > to the system clock to find the chip speed and use the on-chip counter > for profiling. Yes, but that doesn't tell you the accuracy and resolution of the system clock itself, which presumably was asked for the purposes of configuring an XNTP time server. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configuration? Date: 25 Sep 1995 17:44:30 -0700 Organization: Idiom Consulting Message-ID: <447ide$s7d@idiom.com> References: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <4473c7$i5j@minerva.worldbank.org> Actually, a NeXT machine will run with only 4MB installed, but can take hours to boot. Don't try this at home. -jcr
From: eldees@mail.chattanooga.net (Eldee Stephens III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Computers needed for Cerebral Palsy Kids! Date: 25 Sep 1995 23:19:11 GMT Organization: Thessian Technologies Distribution: world Message-ID: <eldees-2509951841530001@porta07.chattanooga.net> TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE NeXT COMMUNITY: At this point in time, students with cerbral palsy and other limiting conditions are barely able to work with real-world tools, let alone a computer. After working with such students in Chattanooga, TN, I believe I have found the answer. Using large color objects to represent real world tools, such as paper and pencil, I am attempting to introduce these students into the world of computing. We have already been using existing products in combination with a Macintosh computer and have produced an amazing result. One student is now able to type papers, paint, draw, and do just about everything else by hitting his head against a switch, I wish to go further. The wonderful color, development tools, and captivating interface of the NeXT computer are exactly what I need. Unfortunately, as I am a high school student, I have absolutely no funds to pay towards such a project. What I require is a NeXTstation Color or NeXTdemension computer complete with cables, monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I will be able to pay for shipping, however. This computer will be used to develop a new way for students with limiting physical conditions to interact with current computing technology. Your donation is, of course, tax-deductable. So, before you sell that old NeXT computer for a few bucks or throw it in the trash, please send it my way. Who knows? If my project is successful, and enough people donate these computers, perhaps these children will have what other children take for granted: the ability to utilize current technology for increased productivity. If you can help, donate, or contribute in any way, please email me today. You can reach me via: eldeesiii@eworld.com or eldees@caladan.chattanooga.net. -- Eldee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configuration? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DFHn0u.KG5@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:05:18 GMT References: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Michael G. Morrissey <michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > > >Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to play around with, >and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but >is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? > Nope--won't boot (or pass the self-tests?) with 4Mb of RAM. You couldn't fit the complete 3.x distribution on the HD: 2.x would be fine, 2.x Extended wouldn't. I haven't looked at the package sizes for 3.x components in a long time so I can't tell you what you could and could not get away with. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: bmaher@ixc.net(Bruce Maher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell Subject: Free Spam Program, Does it Work?? Date: 25 Sep 1995 23:49:07 -0400 Organization: Internet Exchange Carrier Sender: bmaher@ixc.ixc.net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <447t7j$s4e@ixc.ixc.net> Sorry folks, but I just couldn't resist trying this. Found the script on comp.lang.perl.misc. Does it work? Guess so <gr>. HERE IT IS: ABSOLUTELY FREE Spam as many groups as you want with one command. Can post same message to 14,000 groups in just a few hours. Must have UNIX shell account, the attached script, and create two ascii text files called groups.txt and message.txt. The file groups.txt should contain a list of all groups you want to spam, one per line. If you want to hit everything, you can just copy your .newsrc file, but you'll have to remove all index numbers and end of line punctuation. The message.txt file is the actual message you want to spam. It must contain the subject header on the first line, ie: Subject: Spamming is Fun. You may add in other headers, such as Organization, Paths, Reply to, etc, but none are required. Do NOT put in a newsgroup header. The script does that automatically. There must be a blank line between the last header and the start of the actual message. Then, download those two files plus the following script (call it spamming.fun) to your home directory on the Unix shell account, type "perl spamming.fun", and sit back to watch the fireworks. -----------------------------------Cut Here-------------------- #!perl #Assumes both Perl and Inews are accessible through #your home directory. If not, either place them in your path #or adjust the script. #You must also have a ascii text file called groups.txt, which #contains a list of each group you want to spam. One to a line. #No punctuation at end of line. #Your spam message must be called message.txt, and it should #be in ascii. The first line must be you subject header: # For example: Subject: this is a spam. # You may add in other headers if you wish, but there must be a #blank line before your actual message begins. #run program by typing "perl spam.pl. # # #!perl print "Running...\n"; $newsrc = "$ENV{'HOME'}/testgrps.txt"; open(GROUPS, "$newsrc"); while($group=<GROUPS>) {print "Posting to: $group"; open(NEWS,"|inews -h"); print NEWS "Newsgroups: $group"; open(MESSAGE, "message.txt"); while($line=<MESSAGE>) { print NEWS $line; } close NEWS; if($?==0) { $success++ } else { $fail++ }}$total = $success + $fail;print "Tried to post to $total groups.\n$success OK, $fail failed.\n";
Date: 26 Sep 1995 05:27:10 GMT From: bmaher@ixc.net(Bruce Maher) Sender: bmaher@ixc.ixc.net Message-ID: <cancel.447t7j$s4e@ixc.ixc.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell Subject: cmsg cancel <447t7j$s4e@ixc.ixc.net> Control: cancel <447t7j$s4e@ixc.ixc.net> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: bmaher@ixc.net(Bruce Maher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Free Spam Program, Does it Work?? Date: 26 Sep 1995 00:50:58 -0400 Organization: Internet Exchange Carrier Sender: bmaher@ixc.ixc.net Message-ID: <4480ri$if@ixc.ixc.net> Sorry folks, but I just couldn't resist trying this. Found the script on comp.lang.perl.misc. Does it work? Guess so <gr>. HERE IT IS: ABSOLUTELY FREE Spam as many groups as you want with one command. Can post same message to 14,000 groups in just a few hours. Must have UNIX shell account, the attached script, and create two ascii text files called groups.txt and message.txt. The file groups.txt should contain a list of all groups you want to spam, one per line. If you want to hit everything, you can just copy your .newsrc file, but you'll have to remove all index numbers and end of line punctuation. The message.txt file is the actual message you want to spam. It must contain the subject header on the first line, ie: Subject: Spamming is Fun. You may add in other headers, such as Organization, Paths, Reply to, etc, but none are required. Do NOT put in a newsgroup header. The script does that automatically. There must be a blank line between the last header and the start of the actual message. Then, download those two files plus the following script (call it spamming.fun) to your home directory on the Unix shell account, type "perl spamming.fun", and sit back to watch the fireworks. -----------------------------------Cut Here-------------------- #!perl #Assumes both Perl and Inews are accessible through #your home directory. If not, either place them in your path #or adjust the script. #You must also have a ascii text file called groups.txt, which #contains a list of each group you want to spam. One to a line. #No punctuation at end of line. #Your spam message must be called message.txt, and it should #be in ascii. The first line must be you subject header: # For example: Subject: this is a spam. # You may add in other headers if you wish, but there must be a #blank line before your actual message begins. #run program by typing "perl spam.pl. # # #!perl print "Running...\n"; $newsrc = "$ENV{'HOME'}/testgrps.txt"; open(GROUPS, "$newsrc"); while($group=<GROUPS>) {print "Posting to: $group"; open(NEWS,"|inews -h"); print NEWS "Newsgroups: $group"; open(MESSAGE, "message.txt"); while($line=<MESSAGE>) { print NEWS $line; } close NEWS; if($?==0) { $success++ } else { $fail++ }}$total = $success + $fail;print "Tried to post to $total groups.\n$success OK, $fail failed.\n";
Date: 26 Sep 1995 06:40:45 GMT From: bmaher@ixc.net(Bruce Maher) Sender: bmaher@ixc.ixc.net Message-ID: <cancel.4480ri$if@ixc.ixc.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <4480ri$if@ixc.ixc.net> Control: cancel <4480ri$if@ixc.ixc.net> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: Paul Lynch <paul@griffin.plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configuration? Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:29:07 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd Sender: usenet@griffin.plsys.co.uk Message-ID: <DFI7KJ.EG3@plsys.co.uk> References: <DFHn0u.KG5@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <DFHn0u.KG5@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, > Michael G. Morrissey <michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > > > > > >Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to play around with, > >and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but > >is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? > > > > Nope--won't boot (or pass the self-tests?) with 4Mb of RAM. You couldn't > fit the complete 3.x distribution on the HD: 2.x would be fine, 2.x Extended > wouldn't. I haven't looked at the package sizes for 3.x components in a long > time so I can't tell you what you could and could not get away with. They will boot. NeXT sold this 4 Mb configuration to one early customer, and I used to get students to rip out RAM to see what it felt like in a hardware service class. 2.x used to boot on a 25MHz with 4Mb at about the same speed as an 030 would boot with 16Mb. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://ww.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Heinrich Giesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: marker in documentation Date: 26 Sep 1995 11:01:46 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <448miq$pk5@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Playing with the secrets of RTF - files I noticed that documentationfiles in NEXTSTEP 3.3 are full of markers. Open a RTF doc file (say /NextLibrary/Documentation ... Classes/Box.rtf in Edit.app, go to the main menu and then click Format -> Help -> Show Markers and you will see them. Then CMD-click on a marker and the markertext is shown in a panel. Classes (Box e.g) are marked with NS_DEV_DOCFOR:objc_class:Box and methods (awake e.g) with NS_DEV_DOCFOR:objc_method:[Box-awake] both embedded into a group like: {\NeXTHelpMarker1 \markername NS_DEV_DOCFOR:objc_method:[Box-awake];} Who uses, what applications use now these markers? (which are for use in help files as the name NeXTHelpMarker implies). -- Prof. Dr. Heinrich Giesen | giesen@infko.uni-koblenz.de Universitaet Koblenz, | MIME / NeXTmail ok Institut fuer Informatik | Voice: +49 261 9119-416 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-497
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems with Alldisk-13 RAID-Subsystem from Peripheral Solutions Date: 26 Sep 1995 14:05:15 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <4491ar$rf2@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Keywords: RAID Hello all, we've bought the Alldisk RAID subsystem from Peripheral Solutions. It is equipped with 5 2047MB Conner CFP2107S harddisks, 8MB of DRAM cache. At the startup, the RAID subsystem says, that it's name is IFT-3000 v3.41. We want to use the RAID subsystem on an Intel machine, running NeXTstep 3.3 with an Adaptec 1542B SCSI-controller and we have some problems with the SCSI-Interface on our Intel-Machine: At the startup of NeXTStep (after the resetting of the scsi-bus), the following messages can be read (for each RAID-disk): > Registering: sd3 at Target 3 LUN 2 at sc0 > Registering: sd3a > sd3: Illegal Request; FATAL. > target:3 lun:2 op:Mode Sense > sd3: Device Block Size: 512 bytes > sd3: Device Capacity: 1640 MB > sd3: Disk Label: raid3 Our Adaptec-SCSI-Hostadapter is terminated on board, and on the internal disk, the RAID-System is connected at the external SCSI-port and terminated with a hardware SCSI-terminator. The configuration of the RAID-System is the following: one logical drive (LG 0) with RAID5 and 8191MB. On that logical drive, (SCSI channel 0), we've created five partitions 0-4, LUN 0-4, each with about 1640MB of disk space, each with RAID-Level 5. In the menu "view and edit scsi channels", channel 0 is host mode, SCSI ID 3, with terminator enabled. Channel 1 and 2 are drive mode, id 6, both with the terminator enabled. We expected that there is a problem with the SCSI-termination, so we tried almost all combinations with the termination enabled, disabled, hardware-termination on the hostadapter, on the internal disk and on the RAID-system. The RAID-System seemed to work best when we got the "Illegal Request; FATAL." error message. In this case, we had the SCSI-Termination on the internal disk, on the hostadapter and on the RAID-System installed. In the other cases, the SCSI-hostadapter didn't even recognize the RAID-system... I also couldn't find out, what those SCSI-channels (which can be displayed with the "view and edit scsi channels" menu) are good for. It would be nice if someone could help me about that. In the hope of many answers... ...Ralf --- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Forschung und Technik Textverstehende Systeme (F3M/T) Postfach 2360 89013 Ulm e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: (0731) 505-2356 fax: (0731) 505-4113
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Intel Aladin motherboard Message-ID: <DFGz64.xL@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:30:04 GMT Hi, Does anyone know if the Intel Aladin motherboard that Gateway 2000 sell with their P5-133 work with NS 3.3 ? Thanks --- Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Inc. Av. de France 33 1004 Lausanne Switzerland Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76 Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73 NeXTMail or MIME : jgarbi@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: NS 4.0 Release Date??? Message-ID: <1995Sep25.223721.10890@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: news@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <446eu1$1pq@hermes.dna.mci.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:37:21 GMT David Hinz <7587678@mcimail.com> wrote: > I haven't been following the NeXTstep news groups real close lately, and I am now seeing messages about NS 4.0. Is 4.0 coming out soon? Is there a list of features that will be in 4.0? I'm thinking about upgrading to 3.3 in the next week or so, should I wait and just upgrade to 4.0???? 1. NEXTSTEP 4.0 won't call NEXTSTEP 4.0 but "OpenStep 4.0 for MachOS" 2. Alpha now, Beta in December and final release in 2Q/96 (planned). Parallel with "OpenStep 4.0 for Windows NT" and "OpenStep 4.0 for Windows 95". Sun says "OpenStep for Solaris" will be released in 1Q/96. I think you can make a upgrade. Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problems with Alldisk-13 RAID-Subsystem from Peripheral Solutions Date: 26 Sep 1995 19:44:59 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <449l7r$hen@news4.digex.net> References: <4491ar$rf2@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) wrote: > Hello all, > we've bought the Alldisk RAID subsystem from Peripheral Solutions. > It is equipped with 5 2047MB Conner CFP2107S harddisks, 8MB of > DRAM cache. At the startup, the RAID subsystem says, that it's > name is IFT-3000 v3.41. I think the only way to get RAID working on NS is with a DPT 3224 controller... I'm not positive about this, though... Good luck. -- Thanks, Later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: ckt@guest.apple.com (Chris Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:21:53 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <demo-0509952118130001@netblazer1-s35.telalink.net> <42lktk$b5k@itchy.itsnet.com> <42lu1u$pqo@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <437pqu$fv8@soap.news> <tice-1609951805250001@tice.nai.net> <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net> In article <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net>, warrl@blarg.net wrote: > The Japanese learned... the *first* format they came out with for CD's > has the rather odd-sounding length of 70 minutes. This is how long it > *has* to be, to put Beethoven's 9th Symphony on one CD. That > particular symphony is extremely popular in Japan; if they had not > provided it, another company would have figured out a way to do so and > then would have blown the original makers out of the Japanese market. I was under the impression that Phillips, a Dutch company, came up with the CD, and that the length is actually 72 minutes. Erroneous? -- ckt@guest.apple.com
From: ccwf@thales.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 26 Sep 1995 22:19:57 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <449uad$2q6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <431mve$69o@news.its.com> <4476oq$kh2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <447cfe$bhq@news.its.com> In article <447cfe$bhq@news.its.com>, Chuck Swiger <chuck@its.com> wrote: >ccwf@thales.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) wrote: >> The time reported by gettimeofday is advanced HZ times per second. >That's not generally correct. The system clock may be updated >continuously, as the manpage indicates. A quick purusual of an incoming >news feed which does millisecond-level timestamps shows that NEXTSTEP/Intel >updates the clock with greater resolution than (1 / HZ). OK. The time reported by gettimeofday is _meaningfully_ advanced HZ times per second. Doing a quick test on one of my machines showed that the system clock advances 1us per ms (i.e., 1000 times too slowly) between interrupts on that machine. Is NeXT trying to use the cycle counter to provide greater accuracy but made an off by 1000 error? Or is the gettimeofday() value advancing according to some other criteria (like incrementing every N system calls)? I don't know. >> [using chip's time stamp counter for timing] >Yes, but that doesn't tell you the accuracy and resolution of the system >clock itself, which presumably was asked for the purposes of configuring an >XNTP time server. True, unless you have a reliable external NTP source to which to synch. I've toyed with the idea occasionally of writing a NeXT NTP pseudoclock based upon the TSC--in my experience, it is far more steady than the system clock when the machine is running. Of course, I have ample free time. :-) An unmoderated Intel clock is quite bad, generally drifting several seconds a day. The amount of the drift is about 100 ticks (in XNTPD v3 terms), which makes me suspect a bug in the kernel. (SunOS used to have a kernel bug which produced an almost equal but opposite time discrepancy. 100 ticks = being off by 1 us every time the timer interrupt is serviced.) -ccwf
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: More Zip drive info Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:49:30 GMT Message-ID: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> Well I've done some more playing around with the Zip drives and found a bit more that may or may not help others. [This originally started in comp.unix.sco.misc, but I've enlarged the posting to cover areas this post applies to. wjv] You recall that it worked fine under SCO and I could build a filesystem from SCO on the stock formatted ZIP diskettes. These are DOS formatted and SCO always has worked fine with those. If I tried to add a disk or build a filesystem under Unixware it did not like it. Under NeXTStep it would find the disk, but want to know if it should initialize it or eject it. If you told it to initialize it would fail. If you told it to initialize it as a Mac disk all was fine. I did a low-level format of the Zip disk using the facility on the 1542CF I'm running. When I did that I could now make a drive and filesystem that was recognizeable under Unixware but not under SCO. This would still be rejected under NeXTStep. So I formatted again from the controller and tried from NeXTStep. This time is succeeded in initializing and the next thing you see is the new disk icon in the directory. Just dragging any directory icon in the system on top of the new disc directory copied that entire structure. This disk is still not readable under SCO or Unixware. I haven't tried delving into the NeXTStep filesystem (yet) so I don't know if it will take standard Unix formatting. I then re-lowleved. I went back to SCO and had it make a S51K file system, I mounted the disk, and copied files via CPIO to the disk, and rebooted. This disk is now readable under Unixware. The trick to get these disks recognized under anything other than DOS or SCO is to reformat. The other day the only disks available were Mac disks. I guess many didn't realize that you can reformat them to anything you want so if one pre-format isn't available you can use the other. I think this little drive is going to be the answer on where/how to store sources for easy recompile. formatted beautifully and just dragging a directory icon onto the disk icon that was created -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel Ganek) Subject: Should I network my PC and My NeXT? Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <DFIyns.Iy0@apollo.hp.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:14:15 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA I noticed that ethernet boards for PC's are pretty cheap these days ($25). I was wondering if it would be worthwhile to connect my NeXT and PC (486DX/33Mhz) together? I'm using an HP LJ IIP on the NeXT; placing it on the PC would greatly improve FAX printout speed (take about 15 min a page on the serial line :-(. I have a 400mg HD on the NeXT and was thinking about putting a 1G on the PC. The PC has a CD the NeXT doesn't. I don't have a tape for either one. So, is it worth the trouble, if so, how much trouble is it? What SW do I need? What SW do I have already? :-) Should I go with NFS and TCP/IP, Novell Netware? I've been working with real computers for 25+ years, UNIX for 5 and PC for 6 mo. /dan
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Timer Resolution Date: 27 Sep 1995 00:53:56 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <44a7b4$900@news.its.com> References: <430eio$usi@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <431mve$69o@news.its.com> <4476oq$kh2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <447cfe$bhq@news.its.com> <449uad$2q6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ccwf@thales.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) wrote: > Doing a quick test on one of my machines showed that the system clock > advances 1us per ms (i.e., 1000 times too slowly) between interrupts on > that machine. I believe that when the kernel is servicing a higher-priority interrupt, the clock timer interrupt is discarded, so the system loses a clock tick every so often. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is anyone having trouble mirroring ftp.next.com's NextAnswers? Date: 27 Sep 1995 03:38:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <44agv2$77t@digifix.digifix.com> I've been mirrorring the NeXTanswers from ftp.next.com for almost a year now, and in the last few weeks, I've suddenly been getting consistent failures (every time) on this file... Journals/NXApp/NXAppSummer1994/1996_Shrinkwrap_1994Summer.rtfd/ff.tiff Is anyone else having this problem?
From: alistair@cci.de (Alistair Priest) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 27 Sep 1995 06:44:31 GMT Organization: Competence Center Informatik GmbH Distribution: world Message-ID: <44arsf$gvi@frigg.cci.de> References: <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185> In article <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185>, ckt@guest.apple.com (Chris Thomas) writes: > In article <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net>, warrl@blarg.net wrote: > > > The Japanese learned... the *first* format they came out with for CD's > > has the rather odd-sounding length of 70 minutes. This is how long it > > *has* to be, to put Beethoven's 9th Symphony on one CD. That > > particular symphony is extremely popular in Japan; if they had not > > provided it, another company would have figured out a way to do so and > > then would have blown the original makers out of the Japanese market. > > I was under the impression that Phillips, a Dutch company, came up > with the CD, and that the length is actually 72 minutes. Erroneous? Hmm. Perhaps I was told "folklore". I was under the impression that the CD was invented by Sony, and was 72 mins, cos' the boss of Sony's favourite piece of music was Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Perhaps someone involved with this could shed some light?? Al
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting the time Date: 27 Sep 1995 08:59:47 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Is there sw that will set the time by connecting to some service over the net? I have this sort of thing for the Mac and my win95 computer, but I'd like the NeXT to have it as well...Thank's...Philip -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDF viewers? Date: 26 Sep 1995 03:43:45 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <447sth$pl4@digifix.digifix.com> References: <deathDFH0CC.2Iq@netcom.com> <447397$i5j@minerva.worldbank.org> spagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: > death@netcom.com (David Burrowes) wrote: > > Where can I find other NeXTSTEP PDF viewers (and what are their names!!). > > OmniPDF (which I can't use merely because it requires the foundation > > shared lib) indicates there are others, but not what/where they are. > This is at least the third time in as many weeks that this question > has been asked. Scott: is it in the FAQ? > Assuming its not, since of course your RTFFAQ, right?, look for > PDFView.app or PDFViewer.app in Peanuts. > Stefano Assuming I'm the Scott above... I don't control the FAQ, however, I did just make a PDF Reader resources page on Stepwise with filenames and ftp site information... http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Software
From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 27 Sep 1995 13:06:24 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <44bi8g$fum@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: > Is there sw that will set the time by connecting to some service over the > net? I have this sort of thing for the Mac and my win95 computer, but I'd > like the NeXT to have it as well...Thank's...Philip The following steps are necessary to use a time server on the net: 1. Enter the time server into the netinfo database: · Start "/NextAdmin/NetInfoManager.app". · Click on the "/machines" directory. · Choose "Domain ± New Subdirectory" in the menu. · Open the new subdirectory by double clicking on "newValue". · Change the value of the property "name" to the network name of your time server. · Click on "name" and choose "Directory ± Insert Property" in the menu. · Change "new_property" to "ip_address". · Choose "Directory ± New Value" in the menu. · Change "new_value" to the IP address of your time server. · Close the window, save and quit NetInfoManager. 2. Activate the time protocol in the HostManager: · Start "/NextAdmin/HostManager.app". · Choose "Network ± Network Time Configuration" in the menu. · Choose your netinfo domain, e.g. "/" · A window opens, listing all hosts registered in the "/machines" directory. Select the time server's entry. · Click on "Master". · Select "Time Service Enabled". · Click on "Set". · Close the window, save and quit HostManager. 3. Restart your system! I hope I explained all steps correctly. Your date & time preferences should now have a "Synchronize" button instead of the calendar. You should never need to click on Synchronize. It should synchronize automatically in regular intervals. Greetings from Vienna, Austria Willi
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Backup with DAT-jukebox and SafetyNet? Date: 27 Sep 1995 14:28:46 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <44bn2u$329@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, at the moment, our company uses the SafetyNet Professional V2.5r1 backup software from Systemix with one Dat-tape to run the necessary backups. The backups are made at night. Meanwhile, the capacity of one single tape (even if 120m long) isn't big enough to hold all the data backed up at night. When there is no more space on the backup-tape, SafetyNet ejects it and waits for the next volume. Because noone changes it, it receives a timeout and stops backing up... My question is, if SafetyNet supports the usage of a DAT jukebox. I mean a DAT-tape drive which changes the tapes itself. It would be nice if SafetyNet would eject the tape (if it is full) and the automatically, the next tape-volume will be insertet into the DAT-tape. Is this a problem with SafetyNet (dos SafetyNet have to give some instructions to change the tape), or do we just have to buy a DAT- jukebox which changes the tapes on it's own? Has onyone had some experiences with such tings and could tell me about them? Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 27 Sep 1995 14:48:29 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <44bo7t$6cr@news.its.com> References: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote: > Is there sw that will set the time by connecting to some service over the > net? I have this sort of thing for the Mac and my win95 computer, but I'd > like the NeXT to have it as well...Thank's...Philip Sure. There's a protocol for network time syncronization defined in RFC-1059. NeXT provides 'ntp' and 'ntpd'-- check the manpages. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HP C1533A DDS-2 Dat-tape and hardware compression Date: 27 Sep 1995 14:12:05 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <44bm3l$329@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, were using a HP DAT-tape on an Intel based NeXT 3.3-machine with the SafetyNet Professional V2.5r1 backup software. The DAT-Tape is a HP C1433A DDS-2 dat tape with the capacity of 4.0Gb without compression, when in use with a 120m tape. Although we have compression mode enabled at power on, with host control, the tape doesn't seen to compress the data... The Media Recognition System is disabled. The configuration switch setting of the DAT-tape is 'ON' to all switches. The following messages are logged by SafetyNet: > Sep 26 21:00:02 NOTICE: DATIO: Can't get compression mode page. Drive may > not support feature. > Sep 26 21:00:04 INFO: Volume label is: shared-2, Expecting: shared-2 > Sep 26 21:00:04 NOTICE: DATIO: Cannot set compression on drive. Drive may > not support feature. With the drive came a sheet named 'Connecting HP DDS Tape Drives in Unix Environments'. It describes the configuration switch settings for some different Unix environments, but there's nothing said about an Intel-NeXT machine... :-( The tape device looks like this: /dev/nrst0: crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 1 Sep 26 22:39 nrst0 Can anyone give us a hint how to enable hardware-tape compression? Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to get a read receipt from home? Date: 27 Sep 1995 11:17:34 -0400 Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <44bpue$6a2@severi.mit.edu> I have been happily sending next mail from home using the quick and dirty method of sending it to myself on the next, and then, instead of reading it in Mail.app, simply uploading the resulting uuencoded file to school, editing it, and mailing it to the intended recipient. This works great except that I can't figure out how to incorporate read receipts. Anyone know how these actually work? Miek -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: daniel.james@attws.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP sites messed up? Date: 27 Sep 1995 16:55:38 GMT Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <44bvma$40p@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <432ep2$nnv@portal.gmu.edu> In article <432ep2$nnv@portal.gmu.edu> tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) writes: > > Hmm first I read (here I belive) that ftp.dn.net is toast, then > that Peanuts itself is empty or whatever, and now when I try to > goto ftp.cs.orst.edu, the /pub/next/* directories are all > drwxrwxr-- (which means no mortals need apply under their setup) Ehhh?... What this means to me is that you need to be priveledged to *write* to a directory, but the r at the end of the permissions means to me that mortals may read from the directory. I was just on ftp.cs.orst.edu yesterday and was able to ftp quite a few files. I think that the /pub/next/submissions directory should show write permissions though.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: E-text Trove needs a new home! Date: 27 Sep 1995 15:32:13 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <44bqpt$bf5@news.acns.nwu.edu> My RTF E-text Trove, which is not quite a superset of the world's publicly available literary etext, but is fairly close (and will be closer when I get around to updating it) and has All the Good Stuff, is searching for a new home. Don Yacktman, who has generously provided space for it for the last 3 years at ftp.et.byu.edu, has graduated and moved on, and while he hopes to upload the literature to his company's FTP server at some point, he can't make any promises. I'd like to keep this stuff available in RTF form to the world, since a fair amount of work went into converting these texts from flat-ASCII to the chapter-separated RTF that the Digital Librarian likes best. It would be a shame if it went to waste. Also, if anyone wants to convert these to another rich format (such as SGML or HTML), it will be far easier to start with my RTF versions and a translation script than to put the italics, headings, and other markup into the source ASCII texts. If you have about 250 MB of free space, accessible to the net at high speed, and can promise to keep the stuff there for at least a couple of years, with room for natural growth to, say, 400 MB as I clean up new texts, please contact me at <burton@het.brown.edu>. Your generosity will be much appreciated! --- Here is the note I wrote to this group the last time I overhauled the trove, for anyone who's curious about just what it contains. Not much has changed since then, though I've added another few dozen titles as they have appeared.... Date: Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:32:19 -0400 To: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Joshua Burton's RTF E-text Trove (Release 3) Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com To: comp-sys-next-announce@uunet.uu.net Path: news From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.text,alt.etext Subject: SUBMISSION: Joshua Burton's RTF E-text Trove (Release 3) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.announce Date: 21 Aug 1994 22:29:55 GMT Organization: Brown University Lines: 252 Nntp-Posting-Host: tonto-slip6.cis.brown.edu WHAT IS THIS? A steadily growing collection of public-domain literary works, conveniently broken into the chapter-sized chunks that Digital Librarian likes, spell- checked, converted to RTF with a reasonable appreciation for the subtleties of left/right quotes, em- and en-dashes, emphasis, footnoting and proper accenting of French/Latin/Spanish/Greek passages. WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? Gutenberg, the Eris Project, the Internet Wiretap, the Cleveland Freenet Project, the Online Books Initiative, and the public-domain part of the Oxford Text Archive are my primary sources. Miscellaneous short stuff comes from just about everywhere, and a few hundred kBs of my favorite poems that I couldn't find elsewhere have actually been hand-typed. The collection more or less subsumes what all the above sources had available as of 8/15/94, although I haven't bothered with some of the real junk. Edgar Rice Burroughs is right on the borderline.... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THEM? It depends on how fond I am of the text. Everything goes through a fully automated pass of ASCII-to-RTF conversion, using hit-or-miss heuristics that have gotten better as I've encountered the rare problems. Nearly everything gets spell-checked, and up to a half-hour of casual browsing to see what other enhancements are worth my time. My very favorites have actually been read on line, and (nearly) every typo caught. WHAT GOOD ARE THEY? Well, I like them. What good is an RTF-native computer with a built-in librarian, if there are no RTF books available? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT? No promises whatever. I've compiled these texts for my own selfish use, and make no promises to support them further in any way. I have just reached a natural stopping point (no new texts in sight until next month), so I thought I'd release them to anyone else who will get pleasure in them. JUST HOW BIG IS THIS TROVE? I've released it twice before in the last 18 months or so, at 11 and 52 MB. Right now it's 199 MB of text, plus about 28 MB of illustrations from Alice, Flatland, and Tolkien. (No, I don't have Tolkien text, and shame on you. This is all PD stuff!) It's not going to grow by more than another 10 MB in the next six months unless there's a new source I don't know about, given Gutenberg's recent rate of output. COOL. BUT HOW THE HECK CAN I GET A QUARTER GIG TO MY MACHINE? It is getting unwieldy. Last fall I uploaded 52 MB to the archive at BYU (ftp.byu.edu), where the very kind administrator offered me space and set things up with a nice modern FTP client that understands how to download an eighty-chapter, five-part book in one lump. You can look at the old stuff there if you want to see what you're getting. (Thank you, Don Yacktman!) But now there's four times that much stuff, not even counting the pictures which you can get elsewhere. That's a lot of hours for my poor modem, even at 14.4 with compression. Also, a lot of the value-added is in the fact that I have the trove cross-referenced by author, subject, and title. If I upload it piecemeal, someone will have to restore all those links. SO WHY ARE YOU WASTING OUR TIME? Two suggestions. One: send me a NeXT 256 MB, or Canon 502M, optical disk, formatted but blank, in a box that will survive round-trip shipping. Enclose a shipping label for yourself, and a US dollar check for $50 plus whatever the shipping cost you. Send it to Joshua W. Burton, 72 Village Drive, Riverside, RI 02915. (Yes, I'm the guy who had 1600 MO disks in his living room last winter. They're all gone now.) The $50 covers two hours of my time, and any wear on my cube's MO drive. This smells like selling PD texts to me, too, and I'm not enthusiastic about it. But I don't want to be swamped with requests---unlike preparing the texts, shipping them to YOU does ME no direct good, so I'm not willing to spend a lot of time on it. Two: same deal as above, but you promise to (1) upload the texts to an FTP site you maintain, accessible to the world at faster-than-V.32bis speeds, (2) keep them there for at least a year, and accept new texts from me or anyone else within reason, say up to 300 MB total, and (3) shield me from people who aren't content to get things for free, and want my time, too. Equivalently or better, put them on a gopher or a web page, keeping the existing file organization intact, and make it accessible as above. Also, post to this forum, and to alt.etext, comp.texts and anywhere else you think you might drum up interest, once you have the stuff on-line. In return, I'll waive the $50 nuisance fee. Just send me the empty disk, and a few dollars for return postage. This is the option I'm hoping for. Anyone interested? -- `Save the woman, Mr. Fogg!' +----------------------+ `I have yet 12 hours to spare; I can devote them to | Joshua W. Burton | that.' -- `Why, you are a man of heart!' | (401)435-6370 | `Sometimes,' replied Phileas Fogg, quietly; `when I | burton@het.brown.edu | have the time.' -- Jules Verne +----------------------+ P.S. COULD YOU LIST THE TEXTS FOR US? Well, it would be awkward to dig out the name of every poem and short story, and a recursive listing would have a lot of files called Chapter.43 or Part.VI. Here's a listing of the titles that were important enough to be listed that way, and another of the authors. When the same author appears under both name and pseudonym, it's a symlink. $ ls ByTitle | 3 1001Nights 20.000Leagues 7AgainstThebes AShropshireLad ATrampAbroad Aeneid AesopsFables Agamemnon AgeOfChivalry AgeOfFable AgeOfReason Ajax Aladdin Alcestis AliceInWrland AmericanCrisis Analects AncientMariner AndersenTales Andromache AnnaKarenina AnnalsOfTacitus ApostolicFathers ArabianNights Areopagitica ArtOfWar ArticlesConfederation AsWeMayThink AyalasAngel BaconEssays BalladsOfACheechako BartholemewFair BeforeTheMast BenitoCereno Beowulf BhagavadGita Bible BillyBudd BookOfMormon BookOfTheDead BrosKaramazov CallOfTheWild CanYouForgiveHer Candide Canongate CanterburyTales Canticles CenterOfTheEarth Charlemagne ChildsGarden ChristmasCarol CivilDisobedience CodeOfHammurabi CommManifesto Commedia CommonSense ConcerningToleration Confessions-Augustine Confessions-Rousseau ConnYankee Daedalus DeBelloGallico DeRerumNatura Decameron Decl_of_Independence DescentOfMan Desiderata DevilsDictionary DiscourseMethod Discourses DoctrineOfTheMean DonJuan DonQuixote DorianGray Dr.WortlesSchool Dracula DroitsDeLHomme DylanLyrics EarthToMoon Ecclesiazusae Eclogues ElCid Electra-Euripides Electra-Sophocles Emma EpicOfKings Eumenides FannyHill Faust Faustus FedPapers Flatland Frankenstein FranklinAutobiography Georgics GiftOfTheMagi GodsOfMars GreatExpectations GreatLearning GrimmFairyTales GulliversTravels HackerJargon HeartOfDarkness Hecuba Helen Heracles Hiawatha HippocraticOath Hippolytus HistOfHerodotus HistOfTacitus HistOfThucydides HoundOfBvilles HuckFinn HumanUnderstanding HuntingSnark Iliad InEightyDays InauguralSpeeches IndianAddresses InvisibleMan Ion IphigeniaAtAulis IphigeniaInTauris IronHeel Ivanhoe JaneEyre JeffersonAutobiography JeffersonLetters JeffersonMessages JeffersonMisc JeffersonPapers Jekyll+Hyde JudeTheObscure JungleBook KamaSutra Keepsake Kidnapped Kim LadyAnna LandOfOz LastOfMohicans LawOfNewSpecies LawsOfManu LeavesOfGrass LesMiserables Leviathan LifeOfDouglass LittleWomen LivesOfPlutarch LordJim LostWorld Lysistrata MaddingCrowd Magna_Carta ManInIronMask MansfieldPark MayflowerCompact MayorCasterbridge Medea Meditations MessageToGarcia Metamorphoses Middlemarch Mischief MobyDick ModestProposal Monadology NatureOfThings NorthangerAbbey Odyssey OfHumanKnowledge OfJudgement OfPractReason OfPureReason OfTheRights OnLiberty OnNatFaculties Orestes OrigOfSpecies Orthodoxy PapyrusOfAni ParadiseLost ParadiseRegained Peace Pellucidar Pensees PeopleOfAbyss Persuasion PeterPan Philoctectes PhineasFinn PhineasRedux PilgrimsProgress PleaForJohnBrown Plutus PoisonBelt PoorRichardsAlmanack PortraitOfALady Pride+Prejudice Prince+Pauper PrincessOfMars PrometheusBound ProvincialLetters PuddnheadWilson Quran RachelRay RadicalEmpiricism RedBadge ReflectionsOnTheRevolution ReprGovernment ReturnOfNative RevoltOfMasses Rhesus RightsOfMan RipVanWinkle RobinsonCrusoe RoundTheMoon Rubayyat ScarletLetter ScarletPimpernel ScienceOfRight SeaWolf SecretGarden SecretSharer Sense+Sensibility SevenGables SignOfFour SilasMarner SirGawayne SixEnneads SleepyHollow SongCelestial SpellOfTheYukon StateOfVirginia StudyInScarlet SubjOfWomen TSawyerAbroad TSawyerDetective TaleOfTwoCities Tarzan TendencyOfVarieties Tess TheAcharnians TheBacchantes TheBirds TheChoephori TheClouds TheCyclops TheEustaceDiamonds TheFrogs TheHeracleidae TheJungle TheKnights ThePersians ThePhoenissae ThePrince TheRepublic TheSuppliants-Aeschylus TheSuppliants-Euripides TheTrojanWomen TheWasps ThebanPlays Thesmophoriazusae ThousandNights+ANight ThroughLGlass TimeMachine TomJones TomSawyer Trachiniae Tractatus TreasureIsland TwiceToldTales Typee UN_Charter US_Constitution Ulysses UniformCodeMJ Utilitarianism Utopia ValleyOfFear Vindication Volpone VoyageOfBeagle Vulgate Walden War+Peace WarOfTheWorlds WashingtonSquare WayOfAllFlesh WealthOfNations WhiteFang WizardOfOz WutheringHeights Zarathustra $ ls ByAuthor | 4 Abbott.E.A. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Setting the time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <950927113121.682AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services References: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:31:21 GMT > From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) > Subject: Setting the time > Date: 27 Sep 1995 08:59:47 GMT > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > > Is there sw that will set the time by connecting to some service over the > net? I have this sort of thing for the Mac and my win95 computer, but I'd > like the NeXT to have it as well...Thank's...Philip I just run "rdate" from cron. --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.312.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.312.667-5331 phone (home) +1.312.702-9740 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Changing the way NS sorts alphabetically Message-ID: <0379693001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 27 Sep 95 12:38:00 EDT dwrite System NXCaseSensitiveBrowser NO This dwrite under 3.2 moto will change the way the items are sorted, based on whether or not you want it to be case sensitive. Capitalized items are listed first with lowercase listed under them. Thought this might be of interest to someone somewhere.... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: frustrating flow control Message-ID: <0479693001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 27 Sep 95 12:40:00 EDT I'm connected via my modem, and reading my email, when an "Ok" appears on the screen, and it hangs. And hangs.... etc I'm guessing it is some sort of flow control, but how do I shut it off? Thanks! TjL PS I'm using kermit, if that matters. Connected through /dev/cufa. Please offer any suggestions as I am very new at using this all... Would using /dev/cua solve this? -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
From: ton@yinyang.tiac.net (Terence C. O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access Date: 28 Sep 1995 04:12:36 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <44d7bk$5nc@sundog.tiac.net> In article <1995Sep24.212455.26899@free.fdn.org> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org wrote: >Hi, > >Iam looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access. > >Thanks > ATI Support can be reached at 76004.3656@compuserve.com ton@tiac.net -- ---- | Terry O'Neill ton@tiac.net / __ | Open Systems Consulting, Inc. NeXTMail/MIME /erry/ / | Principal (617) 848-2879 /_/'Neill | "There is no change without some pain......."
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to get a read receipt from home? Date: 28 Sep 1995 05:28:21 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-j-63.usc.edu Message-ID: <44dbpl$40a@usc.edu> References: <44bpue$6a2@severi.mit.edu> Why can't you just send your mail straight out from home into netland in the first place? --- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion." -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: thrall@mail.halcyon.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Digital Tool Works? Date: 28 Sep 1995 07:52:39 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <44dk87$9je@news.halcyon.com> Can someone put me in touch with the guys that wrote EquationBuilder. I downloaded the newest version and now find out that I need a new license number to activate it out of demo mode. thanks for the info :) Dean Johnson -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | thrall@mail.halcyon.com | - My wife |
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 28 Sep 1995 08:18:28 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <44dlok$8cc@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <44bo7t$6cr@news.its.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <44bo7t$6cr@news.its.com>, chuck@its.com says... > >philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote: >> Is there sw that will set the time by connecting to some service over the >> net? I have this sort of thing for the Mac and my win95 computer, but I'd >> like the NeXT to have it as well...Thank's...Philip > >Sure. There's a protocol for network time syncronization defined in >RFC-1059. NeXT provides 'ntp' and 'ntpd'-- check the manpages. Thank's for the information, but I was hoping for some little utility that I could just click on. My NeXT is only occasionally on the net via ppp and I would dearly love to go through life without reading manpages! Philip ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu, NeXT Mail preferred
From: giammarc@cs.unibo.it Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Linux and Nextstep Date: 28 Sep 1995 11:14:50 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <44e03a$d7a@sirio.cineca.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need some (urgent) information on NextStep for Intel (student version): -in my computer I have installed DOS+Windows, Linux and OS/2 2.1 (but I think i will upgrade to warp connect): can NextStep coexists with them ? I mean: can I use a partition of my hard disk with NextStep and be able to boot with every os ? NextStep read DOS and OS/2 partition? -if I have an hard-disk less old 486sx/25 and I use Linux on it, can I use NextStep as a NFS server for the Linux client ? If I put a modem on the linux client, does NextStep see it? -Where are the Next FAQ, because I would to know the NextStep hardware compatibility list, memory and hard disk requirements (I have seen NextStep 3.1 running slow with 16megs, NextStep 3.3 requires more or less RAM?)? Please reply to giammarc@cs.unibo.it because I cannot read frequently news. P.S.: excuse me for my bad english
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 28 Sep 1995 14:28:29 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <44ebed$a0p@news.its.com> References: <44b3q3$1i2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <44bo7t$6cr@news.its.com> <44dlok$8cc@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote: > In article <44bo7t$6cr@news.its.com>, chuck@its.com says... >> Sure. There's a protocol for network time syncronization defined in >> RFC-1059. NeXT provides 'ntp' and 'ntpd'-- check the manpages. > > Thank's for the information, but I was hoping for some little utility > that I could just click on. /NextApps/HostManager.app ? Note that you'll have to have one or more ntpd servers somewhere within your NetInfo network (if you have one) to use HostManager to handle time service with a GUI utility. > My NeXT is only occasionally on the net via ppp and I > would dearly love to go through life without reading manpages! Well, you can always find someone (or pay someone for consulting) to do the reading of the manpages for you. I suspect that HostManager won't work for you in this case, and you'll have to do it manually.... -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Font conversion Message-ID: <DFLBzy.s3@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard) Distribution: na Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:57:34 GMT Hi folks, I have about 200 postscript Type I fonts on my NeXT and I'd like to move them off my NeXT to my Mac which is now my preferred platform. So how do I do it? Kent -- /* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */ /* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */ /* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 28 Sep 1995 17:03:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <44ekh4$vo@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <44ebed$a0p@news.its.com> If a one- or two-second error (typical SLIP slop) is acceptable, the following quick-and-dirty, written by Michael Larsen, should work. You have to have perl installed, and can only set the clock if you run the script as root. If you're not in the Central timezone, you will have to change that line appropriately.... -- #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # Put this in /usr/local/bin/atthetone: # Perl script to set the correct time, from U. Colorado timeserver # Copyright 1994 by Michael Larsen. All rights reserved. $delay = 30; $tries = 5; %calendar = ('Jan',1,'Feb',2,'Mar',3,'Apr',4,'May',5,'Jun',6, 'Jul',7,'Aug',8,'Sep',9,'Oct',10,'Nov',11,'Dec',12); @length = (0,31,28,31,30,31,30,31,31,30,31,30,31); sub two{ local($val) = pop(@_); int($val/10).($val%10); } for ($i = 0; $i <= $tries; $i++){ open(SLIP,"/usr/local/bin/slip 2>&1 |") || die "Can't SLIP up.\n"; $line = <SLIP>; if ($line =~ 'Socket is already connected'){ $connected = 1; last; } sleep $delay; } die "Can't SLIP up\n" if (! $connected); close SLIP; open(TIME,"telnet india.colorado.edu 13 2>/dev/null |"); while(<TIME>){ if ($_ =~ /^\w+ (\w+) +(\d+) (\d+):(\d+):(\d+) (\d+)$/){ $mon = $calendar{$1}; $sec = $5; $min = $4; $hr = $3 + 1; #Convert from Mountain to Central time $day = $2; if($hr > 23){ #Hour overflow $hr -= 24; $day++; } die "Month boundary error\n" if ($day > $length[$mon]); $time = &two($6 % 100).&two($mon).&two($day); $time = $time.&two($hr).&two($min).".".&two($sec); system("/bin/date $time"); last; } }
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 28 Sep 1995 18:17:22 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <44eori$a0p@news.its.com> References: <44ebed$a0p@news.its.com> <44ekh4$vo@news.acns.nwu.edu> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > If a one- or two-second error (typical SLIP slop) is acceptable, the > following quick-and-dirty, written by Michael Larsen, should work. Perhaps I'm missing something, but how is this script better than: "ntp -v -s _timeserver_" ? -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: David Hinz <7587678@mcimail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 28 Sep 1995 18:38:31 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <44eq37$drv@hermes.dna.mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm planning on partitioning and installing NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 (not by choice) on my hard disk. Is there anything special that needs to be done to have both booting from one drive? Currently I don't have the option of booting from a second drive for NS. Also, what about Windows NT 3.51 or Linux? Anything special that I need to do with those OS's. Thanks, David Hinz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? Message-ID: <556E6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 28 Sep 95 09:43:00 EDT I need to be able to use F-keys (f1-f12) with my m68k NeXT for when I dialin to my student account. Keyboard.app supposedly will let you do this, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Has anyone out there been using F-keys with a moto NeXT, and if so, how? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
From: blazek@entropy2.stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP NEEDED: Harddisk Quantum VP32210 won't initialize Date: 28 Sep 1995 19:47:37 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <44eu4p$lk2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Dear NeXTers: A colleague of mine asked me a question I am unable to answer. Could you please help? Please send any info either to me (blazek@stt.msu.edu) or him by e-mail - I will be unable to read the news the next two weeks. Thank you very much, have a nice day. Rudy. ----------------------- ...................................... and we have a few NeXT computers. One with a 2 Gig internal SCSI drive died (hard drive crash). We just got the replacement drive in (a new Quantum), and it will not initialize. I've tried it on 2 different NeXT's ( a Cube, and a regular slab). Jeff mentioned this might not be a drive problem, but rather a problem with the way NeXT's SCSI interacts with real SCSI devices. He mentioned perhaps you've dealt with similar problems with 2Gig drives on NeXT's. I'm about ready to send the drive back for yet another replacement, but perhaps you know something that would change this strategy. Thanks for your time. - David Hammond hammond8@cps.msu.edu P.S. The error message given by the Nextstep 3.0 install CD follows: Initializing hard disk... disk Name: Quantum VP32210 disk type : fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd0a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd0a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc /mkfs /dev/rsd0a 2154080 65 8 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2154079 wtfs : Error 0 /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd0a failed (status 1) INSTALLATION FAILED - COULD NOT INTIALIZE DISK P.S.S. Happy Friday!
From: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Where is the cursor hiding? Date: 28 Sep 1995 20:01:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <44euvi$lk2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi all: Somebody with a 21" monitor asked me: Is it possible to make the cursor larger? Or maybe larger only when it moves? Well, I said that there should be a .tiff, .eps or something like that with the cursor images. But I didn't find it on my NeXTstation. So, could plese somebody tell me where the images are? And/or some better idea than mine - just to replace the arrow image (which would leave all the other kinds of cursor intact). And/or if there is any good app dealing with this. I had a look at Magnify.app which doesn't do what I need. Please respond by e-mail to blazek@stt.msu.edu - I will be unable to read the news for about two weeks. Thank you very much, have a nice day. Rudy
From: 28 Sep 1995 20:01:53 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Where is the cursor hiding? Date: 28 Sep 1995 20:03:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <44ev3e$lk2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi all: Somebody with a 21" monitor asked me: Is it possible to make the cursor larger? Or maybe larger only when it moves? Well, I said that there should be a .tiff, .eps or something like that with the cursor images. But I didn't find it on my NeXTstation. So, could plese somebody tell me where the images are? And/or some better idea than mine - just to replace the arrow image (which would leave all the other kinds of cursor intact). And/or if there is any good app dealing with this. I had a look at Magnify.app which doesn't do what I need. Please respond by e-mail to blazek@stt.msu.edu - I will be unable to read the news for about two weeks. Thank you very much, have a nice day. Rudy
From: blazek@entropy2.stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Where is the cursor hiding Date: 28 Sep 1995 20:06:05 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <44ev7d$qoh@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Well, Alexandra is making fun of me again. Sorry for posting three times. I wonder what I did wrong ........ ---------------------------- Hi all: Somebody with a 21" monitor asked me: Is it possible to make the cursor larger? Or maybe larger only when it moves? Well, I said that there should be a .tiff, .eps or something like that with the cursor images. But I didn't find it on my NeXTstation. So, could plese somebody tell me where the images are? And/or some better idea than mine - just to replace the arrow image (which would leave all the other kinds of cursor intact). And/or if there is any good app dealing with this. I had a look at Magnify.app which doesn't do what I need. Please respond by e-mail to blazek@stt.msu.edu - I will be unable to read the news for about two weeks. Thank you very much, have a nice day. Rudy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: A Call for dwrites ! Message-ID: <F6CB6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 28 Sep 95 12:56:00 EDT I'm performing a semi-regular call for anyone who knows of 'dwrite' lines on the NeXT which are not commonly known. I came across an old file I've found with some of these, and I'm currently checking them out to see how they work/break with 3.2. When I finish I'll put out my list with an info I've found. For now I'd like to ask anyone (you know who you are) who has anything they'd like to contribute to email them to me, with a short note explaining what it does and how it is used (ie, does it take "YES" or "NO" or a pathname, etc). I'll add your entry to the list. Thanks! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: indent.pro Message-ID: <F9CB6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 28 Sep 95 13:20:00 EDT What is the .indent.pro file (or something like that) which is found in the home directory? I found something called "Indent_Master.app" which was supposed to help setup this file, but I don't even know what it is for. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim Powlesland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Font conversion Date: 28 Sep 1995 10:27:43 -0600 Organization: The University of Calgary Distribution: na Message-ID: <44eidv$1p6u@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: <DFLBzy.s3@infoserv.com> In article <DFLBzy.s3@infoserv.com>, <kent@infoserv.com> wrote: >I have about 200 postscript Type I fonts on my NeXT and I'd >like to move them off my NeXT to my Mac which is now my preferred >platform. >So how do I do it? Buy the Mac version of MacroMedia Fontographer. -- Jim Powlesland | OFFICE: 403-220-7937 University Computing Services | MESSAGE: 403-220-6201 University of Calgary | FAX: 403-282-9199 Calgary, Alberta CANADA T2N 1N4 | URL: http://www.ucalgary.ca/~powlesla/
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HP C1533A DDS-2 Dat-tape and hardware compression Date: 28 Sep 1995 21:00:05 GMT Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <44f2cl$227o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> On 09/27/95, Ralf Specht wrote: >were using a HP DAT-tape on an Intel based NeXT 3.3-machine with the >SafetyNet Professional V2.5r1 backup software... >The following messages are logged by SafetyNet: > >> Sep 26 21:00:02 NOTICE: DATIO: Can't get compression mode page. Drive may >> not support feature. I have the same tape drive and the same error message from SafetyNet. The program's author (Brian Cuthie) has told me that there is a problem with the way the HP drive reports status to SafetyNet, but that the drive's hardware compression should still work, if its config switches are set to use it. If I recall correctly, the effect of the bug is to prevent SN from switching the compression mode off, but you don't want it to do that anyway. If you want a more accurate description of the bug and it's effect, mail Brian at the address in the Info Panel. I've always found him very helpful. P.S. He told me that he'd fix this in the next SN release. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/finleyg.htmld/index.html
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: ??? fprintf wouldn't print sometimes Date: 28 Sep 1995 21:03:44 GMT Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Sep28150344@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Is there any special requirements for C programs to print in NEXTSTEP? Sometime I wrote very short C utility programs which 'fopen' and 'fprintf' datafiles, but I could neither open and write the output files nor fprintf the output to the console. However, if I run the utilities in 'gdb', they would fopen and fprintf just fine. I tested them in sunos, there is no problem with the programs at all. Is there any trick to make my C programs behaving normally in NEXTSTEP? Thanks, zhao PS: I am using NS3.3 for intel.
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Linux and Nextstep Date: 28 Sep 1995 23:16:37 GMT Organization: PRZ/TU-Berlin Message-ID: <44facl$hqa@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> References: <44e03a$d7a@sirio.cineca.it> Hi, giammarc@cs.unibo.it wrote: > I need some (urgent) information on NextStep for Intel (student version): > > -in my computer I have installed DOS+Windows, Linux and OS/2 2.1 (but I think > i will upgrade to warp connect): can NextStep coexists with them ? I mean: > can I use a partition of my hard disk with NextStep and be able to boot with > every os ? NextStep read DOS and OS/2 partition? NS can coexist well with DOS/Win, Linux, OS/2 and any other system. NS supports only the FAT file system, i.e. DOS or OS/2 but not the HPFS file system of OS/2. As for the Linux ext2 file system: there is a free software which allows you to access it from NS (but not as a mounted file system, it works by accessing the raw device of the disk - these are the ported "ext2tools" originally made for DOS). For Linux exists a ufs file system driver you can include in your Linux kernel which supports also the NEXTSTEP flavor of the ufs (BSD) file system. So you can mount and use your NS partition under Linux, but currently this driver supports only read-only access. > > -if I have an hard-disk less old 486sx/25 and I use Linux on it, can I use > NextStep as a NFS server for the Linux client ? If I put a modem on the > linux client, does NextStep see it? NFS should work. As for the modems, Linux and NS are very much UNIX flavors. Normally a UNIX box doesn't "see" the modem on another UNIX box in a sense of a "network modem" without special software. Of course you can telnet into the Linux box and run terminal apps. If you talking about PPP and IP it's another issue. You can of course configure your Linux box to be a Ethernet/Dial-UP-IP router. > > -Where are the Next FAQ, because I would to know the NextStep hardware > compatibility list, memory and hard disk requirements (I have seen NextStep > 3.1 running slow with 16megs, NextStep 3.3 requires more or less RAM?)? http://www.next.com/ > > Please reply to giammarc@cs.unibo.it because I cannot read frequently news. > > P.S.: excuse me for my bad english > Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: kev@bri.hp.com (Kevin Jones) Subject: Re: HP C1533A DDS-2 Dat-tape and hardware compression Sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User) Message-ID: <DFnL6y.6MK@bri.hp.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:11:22 GMT References: <44bm3l$329@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Followup-To: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Ralf Specht (specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com) wrote: : Hi all, : were using a HP DAT-tape on an Intel based NeXT 3.3-machine with the : SafetyNet Professional V2.5r1 backup software. : The DAT-Tape is a HP C1433A DDS-2 dat tape with the capacity of 4.0Gb : without compression, when in use with a 120m tape. Although we have : compression mode enabled at power on, with host control, the tape doesn't : seen to compress the data... : The Media Recognition System is disabled. : The configuration switch setting of the DAT-tape is 'ON' to all switches. : The following messages are logged by SafetyNet: : > Sep 26 21:00:02 NOTICE: DATIO: Can't get compression mode page. Drive may : > not support feature. : > Sep 26 21:00:04 INFO: Volume label is: shared-2, Expecting: shared-2 : > Sep 26 21:00:04 NOTICE: DATIO: Cannot set compression on drive. Drive may : > not support feature. The C1533A does support the "compression mode page". I am not sure what SafetyNet is expecting, maybe some different mode page. I would suspect that since SafetyNet is having no luck in controling compression and the drive IS compressing data. The only ways to find out are: 1. Can you get > 4GB on a tape 2. Does your backup rate exceed 510 Kbytes/Second. Measuring backup rate is not normally a good option since backups often go slower than the native transfer rate of the drive due to numerous system bottlenecks. : Can anyone give us a hint how to enable hardware-tape compression? If you have doubts as to whether compression is active then set switch 2 on the underside of the drive to OFF. This disables host control of compression leaving the drive's compression under the exclusive control of switch 1. Leave switch 1 ON so that the drive will always compress. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Jones. | Hewlett Packard Ltd, | Computer Peripherals Bristol, kev%hpcpbla@hplb.hpl.hp.com | Filton Road, | Stoke Gifford, | Bristol. BS12 6QZ. | ENGLAND. ----------------------------------------------------------------- This response does not represent the official position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company. The above data is provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 29 Sep 1995 08:36:12 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <44gb5s$65v@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <44eq37$drv@hermes.dna.mci.com> David Hinz <7587678@mcimail.com> wrote: > I'm planning on partitioning and installing NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 (not by > choice) on my hard disk. Is there anything special that needs to be done to > have both booting from one drive? Not really. Installing Windows 95 (which is very nice by the way) erases the NS boot selector. However, you can get it back by booting from the NS3.3 boot floppy and then at the boot prompt type "sd(0)mach_kernel" (assuming that you are using SCSI) and then as root type in a terminal disk -b /dev/rsd0h . The other possibility, which I am debating trying, is to use OS-BS as a selector. It's a very nice program, but I haven't tried it with win95 and NS. Thank's go to Stanley Wong for his very knowledgeable help in sorting out my SCSI "problems"... [ ] -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: Paul Lynch <paul@griffin.plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:56:19 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd Sender: usenet@griffin.plsys.co.uk Message-ID: <DFnstv.Ftx@plsys.co.uk> References: <556E6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> In article <556E6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: > > I need to be able to use F-keys (f1-f12) with my m68k NeXT for when I > dialin to my student account. > > Keyboard.app supposedly will let you do this, but it doesn't seem to work > for me. > > Has anyone out there been using F-keys with a moto NeXT, and if so, how? > > Thanks No, it doesn't, if my assumption is right... that you need VTxxx f keys. If so you need a better terminal emulator than Terminal.app; I've always found Cables to be excellent (info@yrrid.com). Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: Where is the cursor hiding Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 29 Sep 1995 10:22:58 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <44ghe2$sa3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <44ev7d$qoh@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rudolf B. Blazek (blazek@entropy2.stt.msu.edu) wrote: : Well, Alexandra is making fun of me again. Sorry for posting three times. I : wonder what I did wrong ........ : ---------------------------- : Hi all: : Somebody with a 21" monitor asked me: Is it possible to make the cursor : larger? Or maybe larger only when it moves? : Well, I said that there should be a .tiff, .eps or something like that with : the cursor images. But I didn't find it on my NeXTstation. : So, could plese somebody tell me where the images are? And/or some better : idea than mine - just to replace the arrow image (which would leave all the : other kinds of cursor intact). And/or if there is any good app dealing with : this. I had a look at Magnify.app which doesn't do what I need. Hi, I've been investigating this issue some time ago. There's a way to change the cursor, but no easy way to make it bigger than 16x16. It should be possible by hacking the windowserver.ps code. I started to hack something but haven't finished it yet. Looks promising, though. If you want to know more (or even finish it yourself) just ask again. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: ??? fprintf wouldn't print sometimes Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 29 Sep 1995 10:24:10 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <44ghga$sa8@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <ZHAO.95Sep28150344@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Z. Zhao (zhao@crl.nmsu.edu) wrote: : Is there any special requirements for C programs to print in NEXTSTEP? : Sometime I wrote very short C utility programs which 'fopen' and : 'fprintf' datafiles, but I could neither open and write the output : files nor fprintf the output to the console. However, if I run the : utilities in 'gdb', they would fopen and fprintf just fine. I tested : them in sunos, there is no problem with the programs at all. Is there : any trick to make my C programs behaving normally in NEXTSTEP? I have not encountered any problem doing what you want. Is anything special about your code? Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: jlg@sashimi.wwa.com (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicago NeXT User's Group? Date: 29 Sep 1995 07:35:59 -0500 Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services Message-ID: <44gp7f$h0d@miso.wwa.com> Can someone e-mail contact info for the Chicago NeXT User's Group? Thanks for the information. -- jlg@wwa.com
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting the time Date: 29 Sep 1995 15:57:04 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <44h50g$bnm@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <44eori$a0p@news.its.com> Chuck Swiger writes > burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > > If a one- or two-second error (typical SLIP slop) is acceptable, the > > following quick-and-dirty, written by Michael Larsen, should work. > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but how is this script better than: > "ntp -v -s _timeserver_" ? It's not better; it's worse (the script doesn't try to compensate for transmission delay, and has a stupid timezone-correction hack that fails every month. On the other hand, to use 'ntp' you have to know which FMTR. I didn't. Thanks! `I didn't do it; nobody |===================================================== saw me; you can't prove | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 burton@het.brown.edu anything!'--Bart Simpson |=====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Re: Setting the time Message-ID: <DFoK08.KE0@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Organization: Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany References: <44eori$a0p@news.its.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 18:43:18 GMT Hello, In article <44eori$a0p@news.its.com> chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) writes: > burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > > If a one- or two-second error (typical SLIP slop) is acceptable, the > > following quick-and-dirty, written by Michael Larsen, should work. > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but how is this script better than: > "ntp -v -s _timeserver_" ? > > -Chuck What's wrong with "/usr/ucb/rdate <timeserver>" in this case? I have this one in my ip-up script. CIAO Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de ( NeXTMail welcome ) * * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE ( No NeXTMail, sorry ) * ************************************************************
From: melissa@ftp.ardi.com (Melissa Algeo) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.emulators.announce,comp.emulators.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RFD: comp.emulators.mac.executor Followup-To: news.groups Date: 29 Sep 1995 21:08:32 -0000 Organization: . Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <44hn8g$q2@rodan.UU.NET> Archive-Name: comp.emulators.mac.executor REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.emulators.mac.executor Summary: Newsgroup for discussion of Executor, a software Macintosh emulator for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, and NEXTSTEP. Proponents: Melissa Algeo <melissa@ardi.com> Ian Viemeister <vmeister@ios.com> This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a newsgroup for users of Executor. This RFD has been posted in accordance with "Guidelines for Usenet Newsgroup Creation" by Greg Woods, David C. Lawrence, and Gene Spafford. RATIONALE: comp.emulators.mac.executor The Executor Interest mailing list has 687 subscribers and a great number of regular posters, and the amount of traffic has become overwhelming. When the idea of a newsgroup arose, an interest poll was floated on the list, the results of which showed that the great majority of respondents desired to move to a newsgroup. comp.emulators.misc is a topically appropriate forum which already contains some Executor traffic, however, the volume of Executor discussion in the mailing list far exceeds what would be appropriate in comp.emulators.misc. Much of the Executor Interest mailing list discussion revolves around specific aspects of Executor, and the amount of this traffic could inadvertently squelch the discussion of emulation technology in general. Members of the Executor user community who lack access to Usenet will continue to be served by a mirroring of the Usenet group to the mailing list and vice versa. CHARTER: comp.emulators.mac.executor comp.emulators.mac.executor is for general discussion of ARDI's Executor software Macintosh emulator. Executor users and potential users are encouraged to discuss Executor bugs and workarounds and to share tips for getting Executor to work properly with specific hardware and/or software. ARDI will post announcements of new versions, and provide other help when possible. Criticism, advice, and mutual user assistance are all expected and encouraged. Advertisements and off-topic postings are forbidden, as is the posting of encoded binaries or any information on obtaining pirated software. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: After the discussion period of 21-30 days, if no serious objections are raised, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued to the same groups in which this RFD appears. The vote will be tabulated by a neutral third party, who will be a member of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers selected by the usual process. The voting period will be no less than 21 days. A successful vote requires that at least 100 more votes are cast for creation than against, with an overall majority of 2/3 for creation. If both these conditions are met, the new group will be announced as soon thereafter as is convenient. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is crossposted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.groups, comp.emulators.announce, comp.emulators.misc, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.misc, comp.os.os2.misc, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, comp.sys.next.misc . . . and is also being sent to the Executor Interest mailing list at executor@nacm.com. Interested parties are encouraged to discuss the proposal in news.groups, where followups are set. -- Melissa Algeo melissa@ardi.com
From: rosco@eznet.com (Rosco Bookbinder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:56:46 GMT Organization: Internet Connection, Spokane, WA, USA Message-ID: <44i82a$r9m@foothills.eznet.com> References: <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185> <44arsf$gvi@frigg.cci.de> alistair@cci.de (Alistair Priest) wrote: >In article <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185>, ckt@guest.apple.com (Chris Thomas) writes: >> In article <43ogf7$7tr@guysmiley.blarg.net>, warrl@blarg.net wrote: >> >> > The Japanese learned... the *first* format they came out with for CD's >> > has the rather odd-sounding length of 70 minutes. This is how long it >> > *has* to be, to put Beethoven's 9th Symphony on one CD. That >> > particular symphony is extremely popular in Japan; if they had not >> > provided it, another company would have figured out a way to do so and >> > then would have blown the original makers out of the Japanese market. >> If you are going to quote from a magazine shouldn't you at least tell people where you are getting your material from?? _______________________________________________________ My Page Is At http://www.eznet.com/~rosco/rosco.html Please Check It Out And Let Me Know
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Chicago NeXT User's Group? Date: 30 Sep 1995 03:44:32 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <44ief0$iqm@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <44gp7f$h0d@miso.wwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <44gp7f$h0d@miso.wwa.com>, jlg@sashimi.wwa.com says... > >Can someone e-mail contact info for the Chicago NeXT User's Group? >Thanks for the information. >-- >jlg@wwa.com I would like a copy of this info also, if possible. Thanks espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Boot Managers & NeXT with other OSs (Win95, Linux, OS/2) Date: 30 Sep 1995 03:51:41 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <44iesd$iqm@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hey all, I am thinking of installing NeXT along with my Win95/Linux machine. I am currently only booting into Win95 and then using LOADLIN to boot linux if I need to. Will I need to install a boot manager to use NeXT on my PC as well? If I do need a boot manager which one should I use?? LILO, OS/2 Boot Manager, third party??? Any help in setting this up would be appreciated. E-mail or post here please. Thanks in advance, Eric espeyton@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: indent.pro Message-ID: <DFq0oC.7HM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <F9CB6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 13:41:00 GMT 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: >What is the .indent.pro file (or something like that) which is found in the >home directory? I found something called "Indent_Master.app" which was >supposed to help setup this file, but I don't even know what it is for. >Thanks >TjL >-- >Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> >ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The .indent.pro file in your home directory is a startup file for the indent utility. Indent is an improved C Beautifier. It allows you to reformat *ugly* C to *beautiful* K&R C -- my preference is showing :-). While the NeXT supplied version of .indent.pro probably works well for Objective C, it needs to be revised to handle standard C files. Hope this helps. -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: premise@umich.edu (Sean Michael Willson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: WEB ADDRESS CHANGE Date: 30 Sep 1995 23:20:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <44kjcd$4po@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> My home page on the net with the HTML OpenStep Specification and tons of NeXT info is changing addresses from: http://www.engin.umich.edu/~premise/ to http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~premise/ If you have any questions or comments about the pages or anything e-mail me. I am looking for more people to put on my people pages also......... Sean Willson -- _________________________________________________________________________ Sean M. Willson premise@umich.edu Foundation Software Solutions MIME, ASCII, NeXTMail Object Oriented Application Development Specializing in NeXT/OpenStep Internet Home Page http://www.engin.umich.edu/~premise/foundation/ 1800 Washtenaw Ave. Ann Arbor Mi, 48104 (313) 669-0565 _________________________________________________________________________
From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac CD150 on Next/Audio CD's Date: 30 Sep 1995 23:14:04 -0700 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Sender: guitar@leland.stanford.edu Message-ID: <44lbjc$ovg@power.Stanford.EDU> References: <jtift-1309951208240001@192.0.2.1> <43e99c$ld9@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> <mp.811694972@maud.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> Any luck getting an Apple CD150 to play AUDIO CD's on a NeXT? My old NeXT CDROM did fine, but my apple drive won't... Evan Schofer guitar@leland.stanford.edu >Maybe we should change our drives, since I use an apple drive on my >NeXTstation? >Martin >-- >Martin Pruefer DL8OAU (M.Pruefer@tu-bs.de) | Tel: +49 531/391-7453 >Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | __ Fax: +49 531/391-5696 >Technical University of Braunschweig | /\_\ Why use Windows since >Hamburger Str. 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG | \/_/ there are doors? -- Evan Schofer Department of Sociology guitar@leland.stanford.edu (NextMail OK) Stanford University Office: Bldg 120, Rm 131 (415) 725-0158 Stanford CA, 94306
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Strange Lack of NeXT SGML Tools ?? Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 13:02:57 -0800 Organization: UC Davis, Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <heberlei-0110951302570001@dissertation.cs.ucdavis.edu> References: <44ittl$9at@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> > My question is desperately simple : are there any tools for NeXTSTEP that can produce correct SGML output ? ... > I would very much appreciate any hints I am afraid I cannot be of much help regarding tools to produce SGML results. However, some ambitious programer might want to check out http://www.jclark.com/sp.html SP (formally known as sgmls) is a free SGML-compliant parser. A number of pre-compiled versions are on Clark's web site, but I didn't see one for NEXTSTEP. You will have to take the source code and recompile it (it is in C++). I have not looked at it myself; I started reading about SGML and HTML only last week. Hope someone takes it and runs with it. Todd
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Stealth 64 Video and Matrox Millennium benchmarks! Date: 1 Oct 1995 23:37:20 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <44n8ng$fes@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I've done extensive testing of the Diamond Stealth 64 Video and the Matrox Millennium, two of the newest graphics cards for NEXTSTEP, and what follows are the results of both subjective and objective tests: First, NXBench results on a Pentium 100 Neptune chipset with 40 MB RAM, 1 GB+ SCSI HD, no background processes at several different resolutions: Dhrystones: 144230 VAX Mips: 91.5746 +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Stealth 64 Video 4MB VRAM PCI | +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.144445 | 1.75696 | 1.233961 | | line | 0.70446 | 1.251786 | 0.70751 | | arc/bezier | 0.68314 | 1.213589 | 0.66921 | | fill | 0.705371 | 1.337686 | 0.65359 | | transform | 3.009661 | 3.70419 | 3.38466 | | composite | 0.620897 | 1.088629 | 0.53449 | | userpath | 2.35277 | 3.2134 | 2.56336 | | text | 0.750302 | 1.55558 | 1.08078 | | window | 0.32893 | 0.69081 | 0.27805 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Matrox Millennium 4 MB WRAM PCI | +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.454577 | 1.72977 | 1.213479 | | line | 1.16527 | 1.23366 | 0.70092 | | arc/bezier | 1.14856 | 1.19897 | 0.66269 | | fill | 1.00770 | 1.31199 | 0.64964 | | transform | 3.16239 | 3.67847 | 3.39062 | | composite | 0.93608 | 1.06643 | 0.52690 | | userpath | 2.79251 | 3.13100 | 2.43333 | | text | 0.97636 | 1.53243 | 1.06828 | | window | 0.44772 | 0.68518 | 0.27543 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ As you can see from the above scores, overall speed of both cards is almost equivalent, with the Diamond Stealth 64 _slightly_ faster. The big advantage with the Matrox Millennium is the 12 bit color driver, 444/16 vs. 555/16, which makes it about 25-27% faster. Subjectively, both cards give excellent performance. The Millennium performance at 12 bit color is noticably faster, because of the better driver. The Millennium also supports higher refresh rates, up to a maximum of 85 Hertz at 1600x1200, whereas the Stealth 64 Video only works at 60 Hz at 1600x1200. My monitor (NEC 6FGp) is only able to display at 60 Hz at this resolution, but the image looked better on the Millennium than the Stealth when both were running at 60 Hz. In addition, the gamma correction is not handled correctly on the Stealth 64, and the image looks slightly "washed out" at 1280x1024 and 1600x1200. However, in 32 bit color, the image is overly corrected, and appears too dark. These are problems with the NeXT driver, and are described in NeXTanswers. For people who use DOS/Windows, both these cards work very well in both DOS and Windows95. There currently are no drivers for the Stealth 64 for Windows95, but the older Windows drivers work well. The Millennium has Windows95 drivers included with the card along with a nifty software program which allows you to switch resolutions and zoom on the fly without rebooting. The Millennium also has hardware 3D acceleration which is very impressive. Both work at roughly equal speeds in DOS (both are blazingly fast). The Stealth 64 Video has nicer software for customizing refresh rates and screen positioning, and VESA modes work flawlessly. The Millennium is not as reliable, and glitches on some DOS programs. Both of these cards also support hardware mpeg decompression with daughtercard expansions, and include a rudimentary software mpeg program which allows you to play full-length mpeg movies in a window inside of Windows95. For people who may not know, Windows95 can take advantage of the hardware accelerators on graphics cards, and dragging and resizing even very large windows real-time (ie. dragging the window contents, not just the frame) is incredibly smooth. In summary, both of these new cards work great for NEXTSTEP. The Millennium is better simply because of its driver. They both give a very bright picture, but the Millennium appears slightly sharper, even at equivalent resolutions and refresh rates. The Millennium is, in my opinion, a little better for NEXTSTEP, but the people who own Stealth 64 Video cards should not be in a big rush to return them and buy the Millennium. They are both very comparable. If anybody has any other cards they want compared (ELSA, Imagine 128), feel free to send me one for evaluation :-). Varun
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AppsoftDraw to ... Date: 1 Oct 1995 22:24:37 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C. Message-ID: <44nih5$dmk@news.duke.edu> Howdy do! Quick question. Right now, I've still got my trusty old Cube up and running. However, I've got loads of files that were done in AppsoftDraw and TopDraw before that. Is there any any graphic/layout system that will accept these in their native state running on other versions of NEXTSTEP (FIP, etc). In know that my other option is to convert them all to .ps files, but I'd like to know if there might be an upgrade path or not. Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 2 Oct 1995 04:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <44np0d$qgn@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: ??? fprintf wouldn't print sometimes Date: 1 Oct 1995 22:29:32 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <44n4oc$jbv@gate.seicom.net> References: <ZHAO.95Sep28150344@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> What is wrong with fprintf? #include <stdio.h> int main() { fprintf(stdout,"This goes to stdout\n"); return 0; } works perfectly! --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: 9222677@ul.ie Subject: RE: Audio conferencing programming help Message-ID: <DFtFsC.IBL@ul.ie> Sender: usenet@ul.ie Organization: University of Limerick Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:58:37 GMT Can you help me I'm doing a project on audio conferencing on a LAN and would appreciate any guidelines that would help me. (ie. ftp sites of useful programs or www sites etc.) If you can help in any way you can Email me or attach your reply to this message. Thanks again. Email - 9222677@ul.ie
From: VanHaecke@scil.ucl.ac.be (Bernard Van Haecke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:07:18 +0100 Organization: Catholic University of Louvain Distribution: world Message-ID: <VanHaecke-2809951607180001@130.104.58.213> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950904132020.12842B-100000@student.uq.edu.au> <42f93k$chn@data.interserv.net> <erik-0409951259280001@192.0.2.1> <42g0e7$kvs@itchy.itsnet.com> <42ndu4$55u@gdls.com> <42ojc0$hcs@news.rain.org> <42uu5q$auk@news.chattanooga.net> In article <42uu5q$auk@news.chattanooga.net>, pelrod@dalton.net (pelrod) wrote: > Steve Childress <stevec@rain.org> wrote: > > > > REAL PROGRAMMERS DO IT WITH SWITCHES AND LIGHTS. > > WRONG! > > REAL PROGRAMMERS USE ONLY COPY CON! NOT SURE.. I PREFER "# cat < /dev/pts/20 > a.out"
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stealth 64 Video and Matrox Millennium benchmarks! Date: 2 Oct 1995 11:57:40 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <44ok3k$jh5@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <44n8ng$fes@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) wrote: > I've done extensive testing of the Diamond Stealth 64 Video and the Matrox > Millennium, two of the newest graphics cards for NEXTSTEP, and what follows > are the results of both subjective and objective tests: > First, NXBench results on a Pentium 100 Neptune chipset with 40 MB RAM, > 1 GB+ SCSI HD, no background processes at several different resolutions: > Dhrystones: 144230 > VAX Mips: 91.5746 > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Stealth 64 Video 4MB VRAM PCI | > +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ > | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | > | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ > |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.144445 | 1.75696 | 1.233961 | > | line | 0.70446 | 1.251786 | 0.70751 | > | arc/bezier | 0.68314 | 1.213589 | 0.66921 | > | fill | 0.705371 | 1.337686 | 0.65359 | > | transform | 3.009661 | 3.70419 | 3.38466 | > | composite | 0.620897 | 1.088629 | 0.53449 | > | userpath | 2.35277 | 3.2134 | 2.56336 | > | text | 0.750302 | 1.55558 | 1.08078 | > | window | 0.32893 | 0.69081 | 0.27805 | > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Matrox Millennium 4 MB WRAM PCI | > +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ > | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | > | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ > |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.454577 | 1.72977 | 1.213479 | > | line | 1.16527 | 1.23366 | 0.70092 | > | arc/bezier | 1.14856 | 1.19897 | 0.66269 | > | fill | 1.00770 | 1.31199 | 0.64964 | > | transform | 3.16239 | 3.67847 | 3.39062 | > | composite | 0.93608 | 1.06643 | 0.52690 | > | userpath | 2.79251 | 3.13100 | 2.43333 | > | text | 0.97636 | 1.53243 | 1.06828 | > | window | 0.44772 | 0.68518 | 0.27543 | > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ These are new, modern and fast cards !? :-( The old miro Crystal32S (S3-928P, 32bit graphic chipset, 1993) is faster : +-------------------------------------------------------+ | miro Crystal 32S 4 MB VRAM PCI | +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1024x768 | | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.632303 | 2.545224 | 1.926091 | | line | 1.27795 | 2.21262 | 1.37402 | | arc/bezier | 1.27463 | 2.13693 | 1.35086 | | fill | 1.09950 | 2.16806 | 1.16795 | | transform | 3.56700 | 4.39676 | 4.32496 | | composite | 1.07704 | 1.76816 | 0.96463 | | userpath | 3.01843 | 3.99762 | 3.65994 | | text | 1.04370 | 2.27443 | 1.96693 | | window | 0.70013 | 1.40718 | 0.59939 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ My monitor can't 1152x864 RGB:888/32, therefore the 1024x768. The computer is a Triton P100 with 32MB. Dhrystones: 144927 VAX Mips: 92.017143 - Karsten Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwiterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configurition? Sender: news@novice.uwiterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DFHn0u.KG5@novice.uwiterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:05:18 GMT References: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Organizition: University of Witerloo In article <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Michael G. Morrissey <michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > > >Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to pliy iround with, >and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but >is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? > Nope--won't boot (or pass the self-tests?) with 4Mb of RAM. You couldn't fit the complete 3.x distribution on the HD: 2.x would be fine, 2.x Extended wouldn't. I haven't looked at the package sizes for 3.x components in a long time so I can't tell you whit you could and could not get away with. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwiterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwiterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Witerloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP sites messed up? Date: 2 Oct 1995 18:38:20 GMT Organization: Viaduct, Inc. Message-ID: <44pbis$dva@news4.digex.net> References: <432ep2$nnv@portal.gmu.edu> Tim (tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu) wrote: # Hmm first I read (here I belive) that ftp.dn.net is toast, then # that Peanuts itself is empty or whatever, and now when I try to # goto ftp.cs.orst.edu, the /pub/next/* directories are all # drwxrwxr-- (which means no mortals need apply under their setup) ftp.dn.net is not toast, it's just temporarily down. My house in St. Thomas blew away during Marilyn's presence (the $3 billion blow job), so I've been down there picking up the pieces. Expect to see ftp.dn.net back online this week. </eal> -- Eric A. Litman Internet Technology vox: 301.493.0220 elitman@nxstep.com and Marketing Consulting pag: 800.570.4400
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stealth 64 Video and Matrox Millennium benchmarks! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Oct 1995 18:44:04 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <44pbtk$d5q@clarknet.clark.net> References: <44n8ng$fes@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <44ok3k$jh5@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Karsten Heinze (Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de) wrote: : mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) wrote: : : > First, NXBench results on a Pentium 100 Neptune chipset with 40 MB RAM, : > 1 GB+ SCSI HD, no background processes at several different resolutions: : : > Dhrystones: 144230 : > VAX Mips: 91.5746 : : > +-------------------------------------------------------+ : > | Stealth 64 Video 4MB VRAM PCI | : > +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ : > | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | : > | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | : > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : > |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.144445 | 1.75696 | 1.233961 | : > | line | 0.70446 | 1.251786 | 0.70751 | : > | arc/bezier | 0.68314 | 1.213589 | 0.66921 | : > | fill | 0.705371 | 1.337686 | 0.65359 | : > | transform | 3.009661 | 3.70419 | 3.38466 | : > | composite | 0.620897 | 1.088629 | 0.53449 | : > | userpath | 2.35277 | 3.2134 | 2.56336 | : > | text | 0.750302 | 1.55558 | 1.08078 | : > | window | 0.32893 | 0.69081 | 0.27805 | : > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : : > +-------------------------------------------------------+ : > | Matrox Millennium 4 MB WRAM PCI | : > +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ : > | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | : > | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | : > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : > |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.454577 | 1.72977 | 1.213479 | : > | line | 1.16527 | 1.23366 | 0.70092 | : > | arc/bezier | 1.14856 | 1.19897 | 0.66269 | : > | fill | 1.00770 | 1.31199 | 0.64964 | : > | transform | 3.16239 | 3.67847 | 3.39062 | : > | composite | 0.93608 | 1.06643 | 0.52690 | : > | userpath | 2.79251 | 3.13100 | 2.43333 | : > | text | 0.97636 | 1.53243 | 1.06828 | : > | window | 0.44772 | 0.68518 | 0.27543 | : > +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : : These are new, modern and fast cards !? :-( : The old miro Crystal32S (S3-928P, 32bit graphic chipset, 1993) is faster : : : +-------------------------------------------------------+ : | miro Crystal 32S 4 MB VRAM PCI | : +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ : | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1024x768 | : | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.632303 | 2.545224 | 1.926091 | : | line | 1.27795 | 2.21262 | 1.37402 | : | arc/bezier | 1.27463 | 2.13693 | 1.35086 | : | fill | 1.09950 | 2.16806 | 1.16795 | : | transform | 3.56700 | 4.39676 | 4.32496 | : | composite | 1.07704 | 1.76816 | 0.96463 | : | userpath | 3.01843 | 3.99762 | 3.65994 | : | text | 1.04370 | 2.27443 | 1.96693 | : | window | 0.70013 | 1.40718 | 0.59939 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : : My monitor can't 1152x864 RGB:888/32, therefore the 1024x768. : The computer is a Triton P100 with 32MB. : Here are my results with a 100Mhz Pentium, ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4 Triton chipset motherboard with 256k normal SRAM cache, 32mb RAM, and the Elsa Winner 2000 Pro/X (S3 968): +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Elsa Winner 2000 Pro/X 4 MB VRAM PCI | +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | | | 75Hz | 75Hz | 64Hz | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.58824 | 2.55383 | 2.08155 | | line | 1.28755 | 2.21739 | 1.68673 | | arc/bezier | 1.28548 | 2.14763 | 1.64096 | | fill | 1.10263 | 2.14240 | 1.26302 | | transform | 3.16711 | 4.38675 | 4.34091 | | composite | 1.05542 | 1.78246 | 1.04996 | | userpath | 2.97168 | 3.90465 | 3.63027 | | text | 1.04525 | 2.27423 | 2.22879 | | window | 0.79081 | 1.57512 | 0.81174 | +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ My dhrystone rating changes from 138k to 147k... I think it's not very accurate. Karsten, does your motherboard have pipelined burst SRAM cache? Also, could both of you supply the refresh rate? That might affect the overhead and therefore the final numbers. BTW, the mode I normally work in, 1152x864 RGB 444:16 @ 75Hz is significantly faster than 1280x1024. The NXFactor comes in at 2.15085. ..Bill
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stealth 64 Video and Matrox Millennium benchmarks! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Oct 1995 19:06:03 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <44pd6r$d5q@clarknet.clark.net> References: <44n8ng$fes@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Varun Mitroo (mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : +-------------------------------------------------------+ : | Stealth 64 Video 4MB VRAM PCI | : +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ : | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | : | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.144445 | 1.75696 | 1.233961 | : | window | 0.32893 | 0.69081 | 0.27805 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : : +-------------------------------------------------------+ : | Matrox Millennium 4 MB WRAM PCI | : +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ : | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | : | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ : |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.454577 | 1.72977 | 1.213479 | : | window | 0.44772 | 0.68518 | 0.27543 | : +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ Since a lot of NXBench's numbers reflect how fast the CPU crunches Postscript, I like to concentrate one the "window" test since that reflects more directly on how fast the machine can take a window buffer in main memory and blast it to the screen. The rest of it is really up to the CPU and main memory. Your "window" test numbers are really low. Either a) you've got a rev A0 Neptune chipset (ug) b) you don't have rev 3.31 of the Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge driver installed. With a rev A1 or higher Neptune chipset, this driver will re-enable write-posting on the PCI bus. (note that this driver isn't needed nor used on a Triton chipset motherboard...) See NeXTanswers for more info. c) you have some BIOS setting where some or all PCI performance features are turned off d) I've forgotten how slow the Neptune is versus the Triton. Since NEXTSTEP doesn't take advantage of the hardware accelerator functions in a modern video board, the amount of overhead the board/driver imposes determines the performance of the board. In addition, the speed of the processor, main memory, and PCI burst write performance significantly affect the outcome. I would expect all S3 968 boards to perform almost identically in the same machine in the *exact* same mode. However, some boards have drivers that implement 444 12 bit mode so there's no overhead in converting from 444 to 555 mode. It would be interesting to see the Matrox Millenia test scores from a Triton chipset motherboard. ..Bill
From: yiannis@gomeco.com (Yiannis Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NewsGrazer filtering Date: 2 Oct 1995 22:46:18 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Message-ID: <44pq3r$l80@news.cais.com> Does anybody know if and how I can filter out those news groups I do not want so I do NOT have to wait for the NNTP server of my provider to send me all the stuff localy ? Anxiously waiting for an answer, Yiannis Michopoulos
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AppsoftDraw to ... Date: 3 Oct 1995 00:11:09 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Distribution: world Message-ID: <44pv2t$9b2@miwok.nbn.com> References: <44nih5$dmk@news.duke.edu> In article <44nih5$dmk@news.duke.edu> dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) writes: > Howdy do! > > Quick question. Right now, I've still got my trusty old Cube up and > running. However, I've got loads of files that were done in AppsoftDraw > and TopDraw before that. Is there any any graphic/layout system that > will accept these in their native state running on other versions of > NEXTSTEP (FIP, etc). In know that my other option is to convert them > all to .ps files, but I'd like to know if there might be an upgrade > path or not. > > Peace > > -- > | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | > | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | > | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | > | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> | Hi: The best thing I can think of is to save the files as EPS. Tailor edits EPS files and can either save or paste the pages (or selections therof) as Adobe Illustrator files. Illustrator 3.0 format can be edited in apps such as Create and Virtuoso under NEXTSTEP and of course Freehand and Illustrator on Mac/Windows etc. Hope this helps. John C. Fox john@gscorp.com http://www.gscorp.com
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Possible to run a NeXTstation with a 4/105 configurition? Date: 2 Oct 1995 18:38:32 GMT Organization: A Big, Black Box. Message-ID: <44pbj8$moe@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> References: <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <DFHn0u.KG5@novice.uwiterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwiterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > In article <MICHAEL.95Sep25145708@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Michael G. Morrissey <michael@famine.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > > > > > >Hi everyone! I'm considering buying a NeXT machine to pliy iround with, > >and there's a good deal for a NeXTstation with 4MB ram and 105M hd, but > >is it even possible to get it running with so little memory and space? > > > Nope--won't boot (or pass the self-tests?) with 4Mb of RAM. You couldn't fit the complete 3.x distribution on the HD: 2.x would be fine, 2.x Extended wouldn't. I haven't looked at the package sizes for 3.x components in a long time so I can't tell you whit you could and could not get away with. From past installations, loading a stripped-down version of NS will give something over 89 MB or so (from the 1st installation screen, deselect everything). This will result in an install that will fit on a 105 HD. However, I do not know where you would plan on putting the swapfile... -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS ps/eps to PhotoShop Date: 3 Oct 1995 14:37:45 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <44rhrp$l30@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I would like to be able to process ps or eps files from the NeXT using Adobe PhotoShop on a Macintosh. Unfortunately, PhotoShop rejects the next version of ps or eps. Does anyone know how to fix these files up so that PhotoShop will recognize them properly? Jim Beauchamp j-beauch@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: sb6fb@rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Subject: Slow transfer to 3COM 3C579 on NeXT Message-ID: <DFvoHB.GCu@rivm.nl> Keywords: 3COM Etherlink 3C579 EISA Sender: news@rivm.nl Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene, Bilthoven, NL Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:03:11 GMT I have some serious performance problems with my 3COM Etherlink III card (3C579 EISA) under NS 3.3 for Intel on a Dell Pentium 90 MHz (EISA Omniplex). I tested the transfer rate against a heavy HP9000 Unix server, using the ftp program. From other Unix-on-Intel machines I get typical transfer rates of 400 Kb/s on our network; again to/from the same HP9000 server. Using NeXTSTEP I get a bit slower rate (200 Kb/s) using the 'send' command in ftp (so transfer FROM 3COM/Next TO Unix), but the rate drops to 5 or 6 Kb/s (!!) using the 'get' command in ftp (thus transferring FROM Unix TO 3COM/Next). When I work on the Unix server the results of 'send' and 'get' are switched, so the pattern is: Transfer FROM 3COM/NeXT TO Unix is normal Transfer FROM Unix TO 3COM/Next is VERY slow. In the 3C579 you can set some software options: Network Driver Optimization and Maximum Modem Speed. The default (and other possible) values are: Network Driver Optimization: DOS Client (Windows Client, Server) Maximum Modem Speed: 9600 (No-Modem, 1200, 2400, 19200, 38400 baud) The 3C579 manual says: "the lower the modem speed, the longer the adapter can keep interrupts disabled". I changed Network Driver Optimization to "Server", and Modem Speed to "No Modem", with no difference in transfer rate. I did some more tests to check whether the direction of data transfer influences the rate. My machine is bootable in DOS too, so in the table below I use my desktop machine with 3COM card (as NeXT, DOS or Windows) against a HP9000 Unix server. (Only in the Novell test the server is non-HP). The transfer rate is in Kb/sec. Desktop OS, Utility Server TO Server FROM Server ------------------- ------ --------- ----------- NeXTSTEP 3.3, ftp HP/UX 200 6 DOS, ftp HP/UX 130 82 MS-Windows, ftp HP/UX 160 85 DOS, NFS copy HP/UX 38 264 Windows, NFS copy HP/UX 37 150 DOS, Novell copy Novell 195 170 Can anybody explain this? On the net, I heard before of bad performance of 3COM Etherlink III in NFS environments; small buffers in the adapter is mentioned as a cause. Is this the cause? or is there something wrong with the NS driver? -- RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and Environmental Protection Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15 | e-mail: sb6fb@rivm.nl Risk Assessment Division | e-mail: F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven | voice : +31 30 742962 The Netherlands | fax : +31 30 280174
From: Clark Don Woolstenhulme <cdw0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:58:28 -0500 Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951003115801.21220A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu> References: <1995Sep24.212455.26899@free.fdn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Sep24.212455.26899@free.fdn.org> On Sun, 24 Sep 1995 Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org wrote: > Hi, > > Iam looking for ATI E-mail, ftp or bbs access. ftp.atitech.ca and www.atitech.ca ------------------- Clark Woolstenhulme "Sleeping in the street just gets you runned over." -Podunkmer Dixie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: moore@nav.com (Jim Moore) Subject: FS Barracuda's Sender: usenet@mayflower.nav.com (News Server) Message-ID: <moore.45.04B5EB67@nav.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:57:38 GMT Organization: Navigator Communications 1¾ Used Seagate ST15150N disk drives $1000. We think these drives are less than one year old... Jim Moore digital brokers, inc 404-449-8000 ext 158 moore@dbius.com
From: choxx009@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Chong-Ah Cho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Recycling NeXT Color (Black) Date: 3 Oct 1995 12:56:08 -0500 Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <choxx009.812742904@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Hi All, I have a broken Color NeXT computer and I wish to reuse some of the parts for my new Intel machine(with NeXTstep). Among other things, Is there any way that I can attatch the NeXT 17'Color mnonitor into Intel machine? First of all, where can I find the proper cable (BNC13W3 to DB15?)? Is there any person actually made it works? Also I wonder is there anyway that I can use the NeXT floppy drive into my intel machine. My Intel machine has host adapter so that I could use the harddisk and the Ram from NeXT. It is non-adb style so I might not use the keyboard and mouse. But how about the speaker? Anything else that I should keep as an extra part? Please advice! Thanks for all your information.
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS ps/eps to PhotoShop Date: 3 Oct 1995 21:55:55 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Distribution: world Message-ID: <44sbhb$96v@miwok.nbn.com> References: <44rhrp$l30@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <44rhrp$l30@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: > I would like to be able to process ps or eps files from the NeXT using > Adobe PhotoShop on a Macintosh. Unfortunately, PhotoShop rejects the next > version of ps or eps. Does anyone know how to fix these files up so that > PhotoShop will recognize them properly? > > Jim Beauchamp > j-beauch@uiuc.edu Hello: As far as I know, PhotoShop only takes EPS file from Illustrator. Your best bet is to convert them to TIFF format. Depending on what you had intended to do with them in PhotoShop, you might find it easier and faster to use tools like our eXTRATIFF anti-aliasing printer driver, or an app like TIFFany II which is a very fine image processing tool. For more info, you could have a look at this web page and Acrobat document: http://www.gscorp.com/eXTRAPRINT.html TIFFany II is on our SolutionsSuite CD ROM, and on the archives. Hope this helps, John C. Fox john@gscorp.com http://www.gscorp.com
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Followup-To: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi Date: 3 Oct 1995 23:49:49 GMT Organization: PRZ/TU-Berlin Message-ID: <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> Hi, Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote: > [...] > > This would still be rejected under NeXTStep. So I formatted > again from the controller and tried from NeXTStep. This time > is succeeded in initializing and the next thing you see is the > new disk icon in the directory. Just dragging any directory > icon in the system on top of the new disc directory copied that > entire structure. > > This disk is still not readable under SCO or Unixware. I > haven't tried delving into the NeXTStep filesystem (yet) so I > don't know if it will take standard Unix formatting. NEXTSTEP uses the 4.3BSD (UFS) file system (with big-endian ordered numbers etc. in the superblock and inodes for compatibility with m86k/HP/Sun NEXTSTEP). Probably there is no UFS support in SCO or UnixWare. But you can access it under Linux (currently only r/o) if you link the UFS file system support to the kernel (or put it into a modul). > I then re-lowleved. I went back to SCO and had it make a S51K > file system, I mounted the disk, and copied files via CPIO to > the disk, and rebooted. This disk is now readable under > Unixware. > > The trick to get these disks recognized under anything other > than DOS or SCO is to reformat. The other day the only disks > available were Mac disks. I guess many didn't realize that > you can reformat them to anything you want so if one pre-format > isn't available you can use the other. Hmm, I would guess that you don't really need a low-level format to go e.g. from S51K to UFS. I think all you need is calling fdisk and change the partition from S51K (UNIX System V, partition id 0x63) to NEXTSTEP (partition id 0xA7). But if you don't use a partition table on the cartridge but a "flat" filesystem, you probably just need zero out the first few sectors on the disk by: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/rsd3h count=30 (under NEXTSTEP and assuming that rsd3h is your ZIP drive) and then it should be possible to "newfs" it with a UFS file system. Greetings, Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
From: nfogelso@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Nicholas S Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep and Win95? Date: 4 Oct 1995 00:30:47 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <44skjn$2nk@pyrix.cs.uoregon.edu> Could someone post the solution to the problem of creating a dual boot NS/FIP and Win95 configuration. Somebody previously said something about re-writing the NeXT boot blocks after installing Windows95 but I forgot to print out the message and can't seem to find it. Is there a FAQ about this subject? Nick Fogelson XC
From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Slow transfer to 3COM 3C579 on NeXT -- It's related to NFS read size Date: 4 Oct 1995 01:56:03 GMT Organization: Pencom Software Message-ID: <44spjj$hcg@digdug.pencom.com> References: <DFvoHB.GCu@rivm.nl> I think the driver is doing its best to read the incoming packets as quickly as possible. What happens is that NFS under NEXTSTEP by default reads chunks of 8K. Also, the biosd daemons cause the number of incoming packets to increase when doing sequential reads, These daemons detect sequential reads and then issue reads for the rest of the file ahead of time. The buffer size for the 3COM ethernet adapters on which I studied this problem was 2K. Whenever a packet is lost because the buffer overflows, NFS waits about 3 second for the packet to arrive. I've been told that some implementations of NFS reduce the NFS read size whenver this happens. I believe NeXT's does not. So I would suggest that you manually specify a smaller read size when you mount the NFS directory. I believe there is a document in NeXTanswers that someone wrote regarding this. But my best advice would be that you replace the 3COM card. I can't believe that an adapter with such a small bufferhas won in BYTE magazine many times. But, that's life! :-) -- ||| (0 0) +--------------------------oOO----(_)----oOO------------------------+ | Ricardo J. Parada 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy #300 | | Software Engineer Austin, Texas 78759 | | Email: ricardo@pencom.com Phone: 512-343-6666 |
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for NSI 3.3 driver for NE2100 clone Date: 4 Oct 1995 02:18:38 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <44sqtu$95h@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: ethernet driver, NE2100 I'm looking for an NSI 3.3 driver for an NE2100 clone (Federal Technology Corp. EXOS 105T) ethernet card. Please e-mail any leads. Thanks! P.S. The NEx000 3.2 driver at Oregon State doesn't work on this card. -- Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science E-mail: daugher@tamu.edu Texas A & M University http://www.cs.tamu.edu/faculty/daugher/ College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: kostya@seanet.com (Konstantin Martynenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Slow transfer to 3COM 3C579 on NeXT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 4 Oct 1995 05:17:32 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <44t5dc$62s@kaleka.seanet.com> References: <DFvoHB.GCu@rivm.nl> Francois Bourgeois (sb6fb@rivm.nl) wrote: : I have some serious performance problems with my 3COM Etherlink III : card (3C579 EISA) under NS 3.3 for Intel on a Dell Pentium 90 MHz (EISA : Omniplex). I tested the transfer rate against a heavy HP9000 Unix : server, using the ftp program. From other Unix-on-Intel machines I get : typical transfer rates of 400 Kb/s on our network; again to/from the : same HP9000 server. : Using NeXTSTEP I get a bit slower rate (200 Kb/s) using the 'send' : command in ftp (so transfer FROM 3COM/Next TO Unix), but the rate drops : to 5 or 6 Kb/s (!!) using the 'get' command in ftp (thus transferring : FROM Unix TO 3COM/Next). I have the same problem with 3COM Etherlink III 3C509 ISA card. When I use ftp on NS/I Pentium machine incoming data rate (get) is about 15-25K/s, outgoing rate (put) is normal - 200-500K/s. I tried it in two different Pentiums - no difference. Also, if you check "netstat -i" you'll see a lot of input errors, much more than can be considered normal. On the other hand I tried ftp between two Pentiums running BSD/OS (both using 3C509) - it goes at 300-400K/s both ways and no input errors. Which makes me think that there is something wrong with NS/I driver. Kostya Martynenko Seanet Corp.
From: kelleycomp@aol.com (KELLEYcomp) Newsgroups: fr.comp.sys.next,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: F/S: NeXT European Keyboards and Mice Date: 4 Oct 1995 02:44:07 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <44tafn$lo1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4462ml$jhs@aldebaran.sct.fr> I have the last remaining Qty of NeXT keyboards and mice avail. We did the final liquidation and I have German, Swiss German, French, Swiss French, Italian, US English and UK keyboards as well as mice all new... interested? E-Mail Brent D. Kelley KELLEY computers 4323 Anthony Court Unit #1 Rocklin CA 95677 916-652-1880 * 916-652-1881 fax KELLEYcomp@AOL.com
From: steve@up.edu (Steve Ward) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Date: 3 Oct 1995 23:13:24 -0700 Organization: School of Engineering, University of Portland, Portland OR Message-ID: <44t8m4$d00@upibm.up.edu> References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> In article <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de>, Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote: >NEXTSTEP uses the 4.3BSD (UFS) file system (with big-endian >ordered numbers etc. in the superblock and inodes for >compatibility with m86k/HP/Sun NEXTSTEP). Probably there >is no UFS support in SCO or UnixWare. But you can access >it under Linux (currently only r/o) if you link the UFS >file system support to the kernel (or put it into a modul). Actually, UnixWare certainly has UFS support, but I'd think because it's on an x86 processor, it is little-endian instead of big-endian. Don't know if SCO can do UFS or not... >(under NEXTSTEP and assuming that rsd3h is your ZIP drive) >and then it should be possible to "newfs" it with >a UFS file system. newfs or mkfs should do the trick. Steve -- Steve Ward, Jr., Advanced Systems Specialist School of Engineering, University of Portland Portland OR steve@up.edu
From: hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and Win95? Date: 4 Oct 1995 09:33:57 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <44tke5$jko@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <44skjn$2nk@pyrix.cs.uoregon.edu> >Could someone post the solution to the problem of creating a dual boot >NS/FIP and Win95 configuration. Somebody previously said something about >re-writing the NeXT boot blocks after installing Windows95 but I forgot to >print out the message and can't seem to find it. After you install Win 95 on one partition and you have NeXTSTEP on the other, set the active partition to be the NEXTSTEP partition by using fdisk in DOS, reboot into NEXTSTEP, then as root in a terminal window, type: fdisk /dev/rhd0h -useBoot0 if you are using a scsi drive it will be /dev/rsd0 I believe. try: man fdisk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sb6fb@rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Subject: Re: Slow transfer to 3COM 3C579 on NeXT -- It's related to NFS read size Message-ID: <DFx3J7.3sM@rivm.nl> Sender: news@rivm.nl Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene, Bilthoven, NL References: <44spjj$hcg@digdug.pencom.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:25:55 GMT In article <44spjj$hcg@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) writes: > > I think the driver is doing its best to read the incoming packets as > quickly as possible. What happens is that NFS under NEXTSTEP by > default reads chunks of 8K. > .... [stuff deleted] > this problem was 2K. Whenever a packet is lost because the buffer > overflows, NFS waits about 3 second for the packet to arrive. This probably explains bad performance using NFS (I don't use that very often), but is it an explanation for the bad ftp-performance? And for for the BIG difference in rate for the 2 transfer directions? -- RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and Environmental Protection Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15 | e-mail: sb6fb@rivm.nl Risk Assessment Division | e-mail: F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven | voice : +31 30 742962 The Netherlands | fax : +31 30 280174
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Which app goes with which extension? Message-ID: <668A723001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 04 Oct 95 09:40:00 EDT Ok, I'd like to find the file keeps track of which extention goes with which app (IE: .imp for Improv, datebk for Date, etc). It's got to be there somewhere, right? I checked out ~/.NeXT/something.wad but it only had some of them. Anyone know where this info is kept? Thanks! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:00:42 GMT Message-ID: <1995Oct4.140042.5111@bilver.oau.org> References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> In article <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de>, Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote: >Hi, ... >Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote: [many things I after playing with the Zip drive on various OSes] >[...] >But if you don't use a partition table on the cartridge but >a "flat" filesystem, you probably just need zero out the >first few sectors on the disk by: >dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/rsd3h count=30 Didn't think of that. I also found from a NeXTStep person that if you format it to a Mac disk then you can reformat it to NeXTStep. It's just that NeXTStep would see the DOS format and choke. I also found that the 3.3 NeXTStep kernel (I'm using 3.2) will recognize the Zip drive when it's formatted as DOS. Thanks for the additional information. And MANY MANY THANKS for your boot program. I'm sure I speak for a great many users in saying that it really solves a lot of problems using more than one OS on a drive. BIll -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Date: 4 Oct 1995 12:47:21 GMT From: Estascy@euphoria.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.44tves$che@globe.indirect.com> Control: cancel <44tves$che@globe.indirect.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <44tves$che@globe.indirect.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19951004.04 for further details
From: root@saturn.genoa.com (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: test please ignore Date: 4 Oct 1995 18:04:55 GMT Organization: Genoa Software Systems Message-ID: <44uic7$94@saturn.genoa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry to post a test here. please don't flame me
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and Win95? Date: 4 Oct 1995 10:17:48 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 Message-ID: <sams.812826724@shell1.best.com> References: <44skjn$2nk@pyrix.cs.uoregon.edu> <44tke5$jko@cisun2000.unil.ch> hill@physihp2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) writes: >After you install Win 95 on one partition and you have NeXTSTEP on the >other, set the active partition to be the NEXTSTEP partition by using fdisk >in DOS, reboot into NEXTSTEP, then as root in a terminal window, type: >fdisk /dev/rhd0h -useBoot0 >if you are using a scsi drive it will be /dev/rsd0 I believe. Not quite (unless someone modified it since I wrote it...) You need to give fdisk an action in order to get it to write out, and -useBoot0 is just a flag. Also, you don't need the device, since (by default) it will work on the boot drive. So (as root): /usr/etc/fdisk -useBoot0 -setNeXTActive cheers, -sam
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Sender: news@novell.co.uk Message-ID: <DFxsyy.Hxo@novell.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:35:22 GMT References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Novell UK Thomas Wolfram (wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : NEXTSTEP uses the 4.3BSD (UFS) file system (with big-endian : ordered numbers etc. in the superblock and inodes for : compatibility with m86k/HP/Sun NEXTSTEP). Probably there : is no UFS support in SCO or UnixWare. But you can access : it under Linux (currently only r/o) if you link the UFS : file system support to the kernel (or put it into a modul). UnixWare does support the UFS filesystem (that's the SVR4 heritage, with its merging of SysV and BSDisms), but I am not so sure about the byte-order problems. One problem I see with mounting filesystems from a "foreign" partition which itself houses a variant of UNIX, is that, in contrast to DOS, the filesystems do not live at the partition level, but rather in sub-divisions (which correspond to the actual partitions on a non-PC Unix). So, unless UnixWare can find its way through to the actual location of the filesystem on the disk, it would be difficult to mount it, even if it were a bog-standard S51K. To appreciate the problem, think of a situation where you have UnixWare on partition 3, and another copy of UnixWare on partition 4. You are booting from partition 3, and want to mount the root filesystem from partition 4. How do you do it? It can be done, but involves some nasty hacks with prtvtoc and edvtoc. The same is probably true if you try to mount a filesystem from within a NextStep or Linux partition, if it is supported. -- ******************************************************************* Martin F. Sohnius msohnius@novell.co.uk Novell IS & T, Bracknell, England +44-1344-724031 ******************************************************************* * if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK) * * launch_full_counterstrike(); * ******************************************************************* (C) 1995 M.F.Sohnius -- free distribution on USENET (Not a spokesperson -- just a cyclist!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: Building Standard Net Programs on NeXT Message-ID: <DFxtGH.LI3@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: postmaster@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:45:53 GMT I'm trying to build some standard software on our NeXT (which we just upgraded to NeXTStep 3.3) (e.g., TeX, gcc, g++, etc.). While the usual gnu configure recognizes the system as a 68040 runing NextStep 3.3, "make" still runs into fatal errors. I started with TeX, then tried gcc (thinking the compiler I had might not be good enough), and am now trying something even easier, bison (which seems to be required for building gcc). When I try to "make" bison I get the following error: conflicts.c:40: only 0 args to macro 'alloca' (1 expected) *** Exit 1 I've tried everything I can think of. Anyone know what causes this and how to fix it? Thanks, --Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Iowa State users, read this! Date: 4 Oct 1995 23:34:10 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <44v5li$5ff@news.iastate.edu> Birth of a NUG: http://helser18.res.iastate.edu/isunug.html -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * http://www.public.iastate.edu/~sela * ****************************************************************
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Iowa State users, read this! Date: 4 Oct 1995 23:34:20 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <44v5ls$5fh@news.iastate.edu> Birth of a NUG: http://helser18.res.iastate.edu/isunug.html -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * http://www.public.iastate.edu/~sela * ****************************************************************
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Iowa State users, read this! Date: 4 Oct 1995 23:34:49 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <44v5mp$5fj@news.iastate.edu> Birth of a NUG: http://helser18.res.iastate.edu/isunug.html -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * http://www.public.iastate.edu/~sela * ****************************************************************
From: gwolfe@primenet.com (Gary Patton Wolfe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 09:13:57 GMT Organization: Primenet Message-ID: <44vf0d$7h3@nnrp2.nfs.primenet.com> References: <556E6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> <DFnstv.Ftx@plsys.co.uk> In article <DFnstv.Ftx@plsys.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <paul@griffin.plsys.co.uk> wrote: >In article <556E6A3001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY >LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: >> >> I need to be able to use F-keys (f1-f12) with my m68k NeXT for when I >> dialin to my student account. >> >> Keyboard.app supposedly will let you do this, but it doesn't seem to >work >> for me. >> >> Has anyone out there been using F-keys with a moto NeXT, and if so, how? >> >> Thanks > >No, it doesn't, if my assumption is right... that you need VTxxx f keys. >If so you need a better terminal emulator than Terminal.app; I've always >found Cables to be excellent (info@yrrid.com). > >Paul Yeah, if you can afford the thing! My god it is expensive...even at educational discounted prices. I think yrrid subscribes to the Stephen P. Jobs pricing algorithm! Hasta, Gary gwolfe@primenet.com
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FS Barracuda's Date: 4 Oct 1995 21:34:54 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <44vn9e$cav@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <moore.45.04B5EB67@nav.com> >Used Seagate ST15150N disk drives $1000. > >We think these drives are less than one year old... > You can buy new ones for less than $200 more from numerious places in "Computer Shoppper". -nick
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ignore Date: 4 Oct 1995 07:17:52 GMT Organization: University of Arizona Mathematics Department Message-ID: <44tcf0$ro4@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> test.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 5 Oct 1995 09:30:47 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <4508k7$e62@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm thinking of buying either NS 3.2 or 3.3 for a NeXTstation turbo color. I've heard that 3.3 is the way to go, since it has a better mail program, and EOF. But I remember hearing comments that there were bugs in 3.3, including the swapfile-grows-without-bounds problem, and (I think) a gdb bug. I think I also remember someone else commenting that 3.3 was slower than 3.2 on black hardware. Opinions? Thanks, David Finton
From: jgr@di.uminho.pt Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel Endeavor: Can't reserve IRQ 7 Date: 05 Oct 95 13:19:41 Organization: Universidade do Minho Message-ID: <jgr.95Oct5131941@colemil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I can't print with a Intel 100Mhz Endeavor motherboard! Is it a NeXTSTEP Plug & Play problem? PCI bus problem? It works fine with Windows 95. If I do: driverLoader D=ParellelPort I get this on /usr/adm/messages: Sep 25 19:26:09 colemil mach: IRQ Levels: Couldn't reserve 7 Sep 25 19:26:09 colemil mach: configureDriver: could not allocate resources for class IOParallelPort There is one LPT port on IRQ 7, port 378. So, if you already experienced this problem (couldn't reserve something) please tell me what to do, especially if you have one Intel motherboard. I've updated the bios to 1.00.03.CB (from ftp.intel.com:/pub/bios), because I had also problems with the integrated Sound Blaster within Windows95. Thank you, Jorge. -- Jorge Gustavo Rocha Email jgr@di.uminho.pt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Departamento de Informatica Tel +351 53 604461 Universidade do Minho Fax +351 53 612954 4710 Braga URL http://www.di.uminho.pt/~jgr PORTUGAL MIME & NeXTmail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Sender: news@novell.co.uk Message-ID: <DFzA7D.7z7@novell.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:13 GMT References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> <1995Oct4.140042.5111@bilver.oau.org> Organization: Novell UK Followup-To: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote: : In article <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de>, : Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote: [...] : And MANY MANY THANKS for your boot program. I'm sure I speak : for a great many users in saying that it really solves a lot of : problems using more than one OS on a drive. Seconded! -- ******************************************************************* Martin F. Sohnius msohnius@novell.co.uk Novell IS & T, Bracknell, England +44-1344-724031 ******************************************************************* * if (status = UNDER_NUCLEAR_ATTACK) * * launch_full_counterstrike(); * ******************************************************************* (C) 1995 M.F.Sohnius -- free distribution on USENET (Not a spokesperson -- just a cyclist!)
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting paths for latex and latex209 inputs Date: 5 Oct 1995 14:22:18 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <450pmq$67a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> DevlinBy default NeXTTeX installs input files in the directory NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs That can make for quite the mess if you want to install LaTeX2e, AMSLaTeX and a host of other packages. I'd like to tidy things up a bit and make subdirectories along the lines of NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs/latex209 NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs/latex NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs/latex/packages NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs/latex/packages/amslatex ....... QUESTION: How do I tell NeXTeX to search the latex209 subdirectory if I invoke the old latex209 format and to search the latex subdirectory if I invoke the new latex format? I struck out with Lambert's book and The LaTeX Companion. There doesn't seem to be anything in the CTAN distribution files that's specific for the NEXTSTEP implementation. And though the NeXTeX UserGuide has a couple of sections on "Environment Variables", there's nothing to cover this sort of case. (And the extant discussion seems directed only to close friends of the Cshell.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: Paul Lynch <paul@griffin.plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:56:58 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd Sender: usenet@griffin.plsys.co.uk Message-ID: <DFzDIz.KxA@plsys.co.uk> References: <44vf0d$7h3@nnrp2.nfs.primenet.com> In article <44vf0d$7h3@nnrp2.nfs.primenet.com> gwolfe@primenet.com (Gary Patton Wolfe) writes: > In article <DFnstv.Ftx@plsys.co.uk>, > Paul Lynch <paul@griffin.plsys.co.uk> wrote: > >> Has anyone out there been using F-keys with a moto NeXT, and if so, how? > > > >No, it doesn't, if my assumption is right... that you need VTxxx f keys. > >If so you need a better terminal emulator than Terminal.app; I've always > >found Cables to be excellent (info@yrrid.com). > > Yeah, if you can afford the thing! My god it is expensive...even at > educational discounted prices. I think yrrid subscribes to the Stephen P. > Jobs pricing algorithm! Expensive? It seemed fairly priced for my commercial customers. I have no idea what the edu pricing is. Let's face it, NeXT ISVs have never really had to opportunity to become independently wealthy; I can't begrudge them the pricing they need to cover their costs. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk Subject: Re: Which app goes with which extension? Message-ID: <DFzFFo.LH4@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com Organization: Insignia Solutions plc References: <668A723001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 15:38:11 GMT In article <668A723001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: > > > Ok, I'd like to find the file keeps track of which extention goes with > which app (IE: .imp for Improv, datebk for Date, etc). It's got to be > there somewhere, right? > > I checked out ~/.NeXT/something.wad but it only had some of them. > > Anyone know where this info is kept? It's stored in ~/.NeXT/suffixes3_1.i386.wmd (or similar). However this is updated at various times by the Workspace, so changing it is not necessarily a good idea. It's compiled by looking at the appropiate segement of each App in the search path at login time - the file itself then is used to rememebr preferences between muliple apps with the same extension. Ian
From: hacker@access5.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Recommendations on Intel hardware for NeXTStep? Date: 5 Oct 1995 11:55:45 -0400 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <450v61$h4f@access5.digex.net> I'm not really looking for an already built box (although I'll consider recommendations for those). I'm interested in going to the computer shows and picking up the pieces (Pentium-based board, memory, SCSI drive adapter, soundcard, etc) and cobbling together a NeXTStep system based on Intel hardware. I've looked at the compatibility guide and that's cool, but I'd really like to know if there any popular or "best" combinations of components to build a NS system? Are there any combinations of the "compatible" components that are bad? -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DFzHDA.L2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:19:58 GMT References: <4508k7$e62@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4508k7$e62@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote: >I'm thinking of buying either NS 3.2 or 3.3 for a NeXTstation >turbo color. I've heard that 3.3 is the way to go, since it >has a better mail program, and EOF. But I remember hearing >comments that there were bugs in 3.3, including the >swapfile-grows-without-bounds problem, and (I think) a gdb >bug. I think I also remember someone else commenting that 3.3 >was slower than 3.2 on black hardware. > There's the swapfile problem, which Preferences apparently contributes greately, and I've heard that the serial drivers are broken, even on black. I'm sticking with 3.2 for now. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? (Cables.app) Message-ID: <6103743001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 05 Oct 95 12:16:00 EDT I've got an older version of Cables.app and it doesn't do the right type of emulation. The silly network I dialin to is Novell (groan) and the mail.app REQUIRES the use of command keys (Control-F12 just to access it) so my black NeXT without any F-keys is at a disadvantage. I guess I'm outta luck. Thanks to those who offered choices. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Disabling the power key on 3.2 moto -- NO WAY Message-ID: <6203743001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 05 Oct 95 12:25:00 EDT There is NO WAY that I can find to disable the power key in NS 3.2 moto. the 'dwrite' just effects the login window -- once you are logged in, then you can hit the power key easily. I tried to make a keymapping using the Keyboard.app, but it will not let me actually reassign the key, or make it a dead key. It does show the code (0x53 or something like that)..... Can this be used at some basic level to tell the computer to ignore it???? Some wonderful person out there wrote something called 'alphalock' (I think that's the name) which disables the Caps Lock function (Thank you, whoever you are, it resides in my startup files forever!!). Could the same be done for the power key? Please? Also, someone wrote about hitting the power key when BackSpace.app is running (screen saver). I think you can get back in my typing in your BackSpace password and NOT hitting <enter> because BackSpace will enter it itself. There was an old screen locker called "Lock2.01" or some such.... did this disable the power key? *sigh* TjL, aka "Butterfingers Around the Power Button" -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
From: mhunter@reis1.alleg.edu (Michele Hunter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: physiology or neurophysiology simulations Date: 5 Oct 1995 19:55:27 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <451d7f$79t@speering.alleg.edu> Hi, I am looking for any NEXTSTEP applications that simulate physiology or neurophysiology concepts (excluded neural-net stuff). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Michele Hunter mhunter@alleg.edu
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? (Cables.app) Date: 5 Oct 1995 21:12:45 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <451hod$gsc@news.its.com> References: <6103743001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) wrote: > The silly network I dialin to is Novell (groan) and the mail.app REQUIRES > the use of command keys (Control-F12 just to access it) so my black NeXT > without any F-keys is at a disadvantage. Ack! Find another service provider that runs software which you can use. Novell Netware just doesn't cut it-- you'll probably be better off somewhere else, anyway. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: premise@news-server.engin.umich.edu (sean michael willson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software Ideas....... Date: 5 Oct 1995 22:57:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <451nsc$f9c@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I am interested in getting some feedback from the next community about software. What software could you use.....personal productivity, financial, games. Would you want another calendar application, checkbook, newsreader, etc....... I basically want to get a feel for the state of the market as well as some software ideas. If I decide to use your idea who knows what we can work out. Sean M. Willson premise@engin.umich.edu
From: perkins@arctic.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: /etc/disktab entry for Maxtor Disk Date: 5 Oct 1995 19:04:13 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <451a7d$nig@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Originator: perkins@arctic.cps.msu.edu Howdy all! I have just purchased a refurbished internal maxtor Fast SCSI 2 disk. I currently have an IBM internal disk. When the disk arrives, I'm curious if I will need to have an /etc/disktab entry for the new disk. If so, does anybody have one they could forward to me? I'm at a loss as to where I would find such entries. The specific disk that I'm getting is the Maxtor MXT540S 3.5" Fast SCSI2 540MB disk. Thanks in advance for any help y'all may be able to provide. Regards, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Playsony is avaiable Date: 6 Oct 1995 00:34:49 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <451tj9$p2j@gate.seicom.net> Hello everybody! I'm pleased to announce the availability of playsony, a little program to get audio data direct digital into your NeXT system using a Apple CD300 or any other Sony CD-8003A CDROM device. It was hacked out of play3401 from Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> and is available on my home page (use the uudecode version, as the ftp links are still not up yet) http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank . And yes, it is only tested on Black hardware yet... Please let me know if it works for you. The usual hack warning applies: If this burns your harddisk, computer, mouse, cat, house or car (including but not limited to) you are the only one to give the blame. Here is the man page: playsony(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual playsony(1) NAME playsony - play audio CDs through NeXT sound system SYNOPSIS playsony [ -e ] [ -p ] [ -r ] [duration ...] DESCRIPTION Playsony reads the digital audio samples from audio CDs through the SCSI bus and then plays them on the NeXT system itself. Currently playsony only supports the Sony CD-8003A (Apple CD 300, NOT the 300e!) series of CD-ROM drives. The audio CD should be inserted only after playsony has prompted the user for it. Unless the -e option is given playsony will eject the CD again when it has completed play- ing. Optional you could mount the Audio CD using the Workspace (NeXT's CD Player will open) and start playsony from the command line (As a by-effect you will see all tim- ing in the CD player display...) If you wish to record a standard 16-bit stereo 44.1 kHz soundfile to the standard output specify the -r option. By default playing of the sound is disabled while recording. If you wish to play and record use the -p option as well as the -r option. The arguments to playsony are a series of `durations' which are played by playsony in the order specified. A number of different formats for durations exist. - play the entire CD. -time play the CD from the beginning until time. time- play the CD from time to the end. time1-time2 play the CD from time1 to time2. time play just the specified time. repeat start over playing the list of durations from the beginning. Times may be specified in several different formats down to frame (= 1/75th of a second) accuracy. #n The n-th track. mm Minute mm of the CD. mm:ss Second ss of minute mm of the CD. mm:ss:ff Frame ff of second ss of minute mm of the CD. EXAMPLES Play the entire CD over and over again. playsony - repeat Play and record to the file threetracks.snd the tracks 7, 5 and 9 of the CD (in that order) and then stop. playsony -r #7 #5 #9 >threetracks.snd BUGS Currently playsony has only been tested on m68k systems with Sony CD-8003A (Apple CD 300) CD-ROM drives. It is conceiv- able that it might also work on i386 based system with the proper sound cards. As there is currently no standard SCSI command set to read audio CDs, if playsony worked on CD-ROM drives different from the Sony CD-8003A (Apple CD 300) that would purely coincidental. The author is very interested in experiences of users with different hardware configurations. Every time an audio CD is inserted a large number of warning messages will appear on the console. All those messages indicate is that the CD ROM is not in one of the standard data formats which should not come as a surprise. Sometimes a SCSI error will occure during play or record, at the moment you should ignore them, as playsony does an automatic retry. Seems to be a feature of the CD300... DIAGNOSTICS `playsony was not installed SUID root': playsony needs raw access to the CD ROM. On NeXTs this access is only granted to the root user. So to work properly playsony needs to be run either by root or has to be installed SUID root. `Can't find Sony CD-8003A (Apple CD 300) CD player -- play- sony only works with it.': playsony explicitly checks that the CD ROM drive used is a Sony CD-8003A (Apple CD 300) as sending random non-standard SCSI commands to a different device may have tragic consequences. `Can't eject CD.': Possibly the drive was installed with the eject prevention jumper installed. `No free generic SCSI device': playsony needs to use generic SCSI device of which there are only four. This message indicates that all four of them are being used by other processes. NOTES Two points about recording: playsony writes out the complete unabridged and unmodified sound data from the audio CD which results in sound files more than 10 MBytes/minute in size. If your uses don't require sound of quite so high a quality, you can use sndconvert and sndcompress to significantly reduce the size of the sound files. Most available audio CDs are copyrighted. Making direct digitial recordings of them for your own use may or may not be a violation of that copyright. Completely copying your favorite CDs to your harddisk and then uploading them to every ftp server in sight is not only almost certainly a violation of that copyright but also the greatest waste of network resources since the creation of misc.activism.progressive. SEE ALSO sndplay(1), sndrecord(1), sndinfo(1), sndcompress(1), sndconvert(1) AUTHOR Hacked from play3401 by Frank Siegert <frank@this.net> and Andreas Haug <me@this.net>. play3401 for Toshiba 3401 drives was written by Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>, Department of Physics, Princeton University. Mike Andrews <kramer@fragile.termfrost.org> contributed code to record sounds. Some code for NS/FIP compatibility was incorporated from patches sent by J Daniel Ashton <jdashton@southern.edu>. --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stealth 64 Video and Matrox Millennium benchmarks! Date: 6 Oct 1995 01:43:02 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <4521j6$16c@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <44n8ng$fes@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <44pd6r$d5q@clarknet.clark.net> In article <44pd6r$d5q@clarknet.clark.net>, Chin <chin@clark.net> wrote: >Varun Mitroo (mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: >: +-------------------------------------------------------+ >: | Stealth 64 Video 4MB VRAM PCI | >: +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ >: | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | >: | | RGB:555/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | >: +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ >: |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.144445 | 1.75696 | 1.233961 | >: | window | 0.32893 | 0.69081 | 0.27805 | >: +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ >: >: +-------------------------------------------------------+ >: | Matrox Millennium 4 MB WRAM PCI | >: +-------------+-------------+---------------------------+ >: | | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 | 1152x864 | >: | | RGB:444/16 | BW:8 | RGB:888/32 | >: +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ >: |NXFactor 2.0 | 1.454577 | 1.72977 | 1.213479 | >: | window | 0.44772 | 0.68518 | 0.27543 | >: +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+ > >Since a lot of NXBench's numbers reflect how fast the >CPU crunches Postscript, I like to concentrate one >the "window" test since that reflects more directly >on how fast the machine can take a window buffer in >main memory and blast it to the screen. The rest of it is >really up to the CPU and main memory. > >Your "window" test numbers are really low. Either >a) you've got a rev A0 Neptune chipset (ug) >b) you don't have rev 3.31 of the Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge > driver installed. With a rev A1 or higher Neptune chipset, > this driver will re-enable write-posting on the PCI bus. > (note that this driver isn't needed nor used on a Triton chipset > motherboard...) See NeXTanswers for more info. Oops! That was, indeed, the problem. I had recently rebuilt my machine with NS 3.3, and had forgotten all about the updated PCI Host Bridge driver. I now have the 3.31 version of the 824X0 PCI Host Bridge installed. The Matrox card is EXTREMELY fast. I will repost a full list of benchmarks within a few days, but from one quick test: Matrox Millennium 4MB WRAM 1600x1200 RGB:444/16 @ 60 Hz NXFactor 1.982677 window 0.95852 Varun
From: mbecker@neptune.cs.uml.edu (Mark Becker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 2.1 FTP archive sites disappearing? Date: 6 Oct 1995 03:33:36 GMT Organization: UMass-Lowell Computer Science Message-ID: <45282h$hrr@ulowell.uml.edu> Hello * For the past day or two I've been trying to locate a few bits of software for my '030 NS 2.1 cube. What happened to nova.cc.purdue.edu? The site used to have a good collection of NS 2.1-related software.. but now anonymous FTP lands me in an empty directory. Unmounted volume? The Peanuts archive (ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de) also used to have a great deal of NS 2.1 software.. but that software seems to have disappeared. ftp.cs.orst.edu seems bare of NS 2.1 software. At the top of my list of desirable software is the Emacs.2.1.tar.Z (I think) front-end for Emacs on the cube. I've got the README file (natch) but in the day or two between retrieving the README and doing something about it, everything disappeared. I'd like to apologize to the group in advance if I'm looking in the wrong places.. but can someone point me in the right direction? Your time is appreciated. Regards, Mark +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>| +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software Ideas....... Date: 6 Oct 1995 04:04:10 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <4529rq$psi@news4.digex.net> References: <451nsc$f9c@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> premise@news-server.engin.umich.edu (sean michael willson) wrote: > I am interested in getting some feedback from the next community > about software. What software could you use.....personal > productivity, financial, games. Would you want another calendar > application, checkbook, newsreader, etc....... I basically want > to get a feel for the state of the market as well as some software > ideas. If I decide to use your idea who knows what we can work > out. A very robust animation module for solidThinking, that would allow for accident reconstruction work would be welcome :) -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: "Charles C. Hocker" <american@aztec.asu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/FIP, how do you set the correct time in DOS? Date: 6 Oct 1995 04:03:46 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Message-ID: <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> Hello, I am using NS/FIP and would like to set the correct time when I boot into DOS. Is there a why that I can have the correct time in both NS and DOS with out reseting the clock each time? Thanks Charles
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Base 64 decoding? Date: 6 Oct 1995 06:32:29 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-h-19.usc.edu Message-ID: <452iht$b1k@usc.edu> How does one decode Base 64 files? --- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion." -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: HP 1200 C Printer Error Message-ID: <1995Oct6.041740.12114@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 04:17:40 GMT We are getting the following error on an HP 1200 C when trying to print an image. ERROR: limitcheck OFFENDING COMMAND: image STACK: Does anyone know what this is, or more importantly how to correct it. By the way, printing the image from Windows does not cause the same error. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears | NeXTMail Welcome jspears@weston.com | MIME MAil Welcome The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which app goes with which extension? Date: 6 Oct 1995 09:06:24 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <452rig$651@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <668A723001A23A7C@-SMF-> TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY (476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu) wrote: : Ok, I'd like to find the file keeps track of which extention goes with : which app (IE: .imp for Improv, datebk for Date, etc). It's got to be : there somewhere, right? No, it's not in a file (as far as I know). At login, the /NextApps, /LocalApps and ~/Apps directories are check for applications and asked which extensions they support. You set that in IB when you develop the application. When there are more that support the same type, you use the WorkSpace inspector (Tools entry) to select the default one. Willem
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disabling the power key on 3.2 moto -- NO WAY Date: 6 Oct 1995 12:47:49 GMT Organization: My Bedroom, Ravenna, MI Message-ID: <4538hl$frg@news.it.gvsu.edu> References: <6203743001A23A7C@-SMF-> In article <6203743001A23A7C@-SMF->, TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote: > >There is NO WAY that I can find to disable the power key in NS 3.2 moto. > >the 'dwrite' just effects the login window -- once you are logged in, then >you can hit the power key easily. In 3.3 when you disable the power key through Preferences, you can still hit the power key when you're logged in, *but* if you do select Turn it Off you're just logged out. So you could try to turn it off when you're logged in and see if it does the same thing in 3.2. -- Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME> Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: daryl.krzewinski@ab.com (Daryl M. Krzewinski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 17:30:12 GMT Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <453ehk$h81@news1.cle.ab.com> References: <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185> <44arsf$gvi@frigg.cci.de> alistair@cci.de (Alistair Priest) wrote: >In article <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185>, ckt@guest.apple.com (Chris Thomas) writes: [snip] >> I was under the impression that Phillips, a Dutch company, came up >> with the CD, and that the length is actually 72 minutes. Erroneous? >Hmm. Perhaps I was told "folklore". I was under the impression that the CD >was invented by Sony, and was 72 mins, cos' the boss of Sony's favourite piece >of music was Beethoven's 9th Symphony. >Perhaps someone involved with this could shed some light?? Alistair is quite correct. Phillips did about 95% of the development work on the CD, and nearly all of the hard points such as size, format, capacity, etc. had been decided upon when Phillips ran into hard economic times and sold the development to Sony. Little was left to do at that point, and Sony only had to work out some details and stake their claim as the inventors. I'm sure the 72 minute limit reason is pure folklore as well. While I don't have a first-hand fact to replace it, I *do* have a particular performance of Beethoven's Ninth that runs close to 90 minutes. Daryl =============================================================================== Rockwell Automation Allen-Bradley Company A division of Rockwell International ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daryl M. Krzewinski Recipient, Rockwell Chairman's Team Award 1994 for Flex I/O Phase I development ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Control Logic Engineering Industrial Control and Communications Group email: daryl.krzewinski@ab.com Cleveland, Ohio phone: 216-646-3960 =============================================================================== Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of A-B, myself, or anyone else for that matter.
From: dtran@ucla.edu (Daniel Tran) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 02:14:01 GMT Organization: UCLA Arts - Theater/Film & TV Network Support Message-ID: <dtran.892.307490E8@ucla.edu> References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> <1995Oct4.140042.5111@bilver.oau.org> <DFzA7D.7z7@novell.co.uk> In article <DFzA7D.7z7@novell.co.uk> msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) writes: >From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)>Subject: Re: More Zip drive info >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:13 GMT >Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote: >: In article <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de>, >: Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote: >[...] >: And MANY MANY THANKS for your boot program. I'm sure I speak >: for a great many users in saying that it really solves a lot of >: problems using more than one OS on a drive. >Seconded! I'm sorry I missed the original threads. What is this boot program and where can I get it. It sounds like something that can save me a lot of work.. Thanks Daniel Tran - dtran@ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.netcom.com> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.netcom.com (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com Subject: Re: Which app goes with which extension? Message-ID: <C940753001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 06 Oct 95 11:33:00 EDT > It's stored in ~/.NeXT/suffixes3_1.i386.wmd (or similar). That has some of them, but not all of them (at least, I didn't see it). I don't want to change this info, I just want to find it. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.netcom.com> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.netcom.com (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com Subject: Re: anyone using F-keys with 3.2 MOTO? (Cables.app) Message-ID: <CA40753001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 06 Oct 95 11:36:00 EDT chuck@its.com wrote: Ack! Find another service provider that runs software which you can use. Novell Netware just doesn't cut it-- you'll probably be better off somewhere else, anyway. I reply: You said it! Novell sucks. As does this stupid mailreader I'm using (for example, see .sig) However, my 'provider' is my school, which unfortunately uses Novell and is not going to change. Since this is free, I'd like to use it. However, as I found out after my post to which you were responding, using ESCAPE+number will mimic the F-keys, where ESCAPE+1 = F1 etc and ESCAPE+0 = F10 (the one F key I really needed). TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
From: andreas@ccrc.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: formating and using Zip drive in DOS format on Nextstep 3.3 Date: 6 Oct 1995 13:22:13 -0500 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO. Distribution: na Message-ID: <453s4l$9f1@dworkin.wustl.edu> Hello everybody: Is there a way to have a Next workstation recognize DOS format? I use Nextstep 3.3. I currently can use Next and Mac format. But I would like to be able to use DOS format as well so that I can move files between my PC and my Next. When I insert a Zip drive formatted in DOS the Nextstation does not recognize it. When I try to format a Zip disk on a Nextation I get the option to format it in either Next or Mac format. I have some old manuals and there I saw that there used to be an application called BuildDOS which would format a scsi drive to DOS format. This application is not available anymore under Nextstep 3.3. Any help is always very much appreciated. Thanks Andreas ---- Andreas Bovopoulos Chipcom Corporation PS. Please send me your responses to my direct e-mail address: abovopou@chipcom.com
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Recommendations on Intel hardware for NeXTStep? Date: 6 Oct 1995 18:39:16 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Ipswich GBR Message-ID: <453t4k$k5m@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> References: <450v61$h4f@access5.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hacker@access5.digex.net (Dark Hacker) wrote: > >I'm not really looking for an already built box (although I'll consider >recommendations for those). I'm interested in going to the computer >shows and picking up the pieces (Pentium-based board, memory, SCSI >drive adapter, soundcard, etc) and cobbling together a NeXTStep >system based on Intel hardware. I've looked at the compatibility guide >and that's cool, but I'd really like to know if there any popular >or "best" combinations of components to build a NS system? >Are there any combinations of the "compatible" components that >are bad? > > >-- >Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation Just a thought:- P5 120 - 133 PCI motherboard Adaptec 2940 SCSI Seagate Hawk 2Gb or 4Gb (partitioned) Pioneer 124 4.4 speed CD-ROM SCSI SCM Etherpower 32 17" screen eg Sony or Panasonic - run at 1152x768 888 72Hz (Pana) get 20/21" screen if you afford the triple increase in price. Ms Natural keyboard tower with spare slots MS mouse (I hate it but most like it). about 3000GBR (sterling) Gerald McMullon Cambridge GBR
From: msmail.koehrm@tsod.lmig.com (Matthew Koehr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT advantages? Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 16:20:43 -0400 Organization: Liberty Mutual Group Message-ID: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> I've been following the c.s.n.* groups for a little while now, and I was wondering if people wouldn't mind posting what they think sets NEXTSTEP apart from other OS (desktop OS' like MacOS/Windows, and the usual UNIX flavors: AIX, Solaris, etc.). How does it rate as a UNIX variant? Can X/Motif run on top of NEXTSTEP? Is there a lot of software available? How well does it integrate into heterogenious computing environments? I'm considering NEXTSTEP for use on a PC, and would like to know what makes it superior to something like Linux or Solaris for Intel. From what I've seen, NEXTSTEP's interface is much more elegant than something like X/Motif, but I'd rather have a strong UNIX than a pretty interface. Please post resonses, as our mail server has been selectively dropping Internet e-mail recently... Thanks in advance, -Matt -- Matthew Koehr Liberty Mutual Group Portsmouth, NH The above opinion is my own, yadda yadda yadda....
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: Help Building TeX Message-ID: <DG1pC9.EHo@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: postmaster@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:07:21 GMT You'd think that after building TeX a zillion times I'd be able to get through a deliver without problems . . . . but . . . I'm trying to install the latest on a NextStation running NextStep 3.3. I think that configure is bombing with the error Unrecognized command: \@^ac_include ../make/paths.make@r ../make/paths.make (in any case it fails to create Makefile files as it should). Anyone have any ideas what's going wrong? Thanks, --Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which app goes with which extension? Date: 6 Oct 1995 21:34:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <4547ce$ssr@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <C940753001A23A7C@-SMF-> Timothy, I wrote a csh script some time ago to extract which applications own which extensions. By default it expands your ApplicationPaths default and uses lipo and segedit to extract the icon header information from all the applications it finds. It then sorts the results so you get a listing like: ais ImageViewer alias OmniImage amigaiff OmniImage anim Motion anim Movie arc Opener archie Archie .. It takes about 3 minutes to run on our system, but it's something I only run very rarely. You can find the csh script on: ftp://ftp-camis.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT/mappings Enjoy, - Christopher
From: a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Mac Emulator Source Date: 6 Oct 1995 22:46:51 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <454bkr$1joc@ftp.univie.ac.at> There is supposed to be a Mac emulator for black hw which uses the mac roms. What is the name of this and who is selling it? THX. ---------------------------=================--------------------------- Michael F. Alexander Michael.Alexander@serv.univie.ac.at ---------------------------=================---------------------------
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:10:15 -0700 Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.951006204421.3048B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> References: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: v92ti To: Matthew Koehr <msmail.koehrm@tsod.lmig.com> In-Reply-To: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> I have been a long-time critic of NeXT, and have basically given up on NEXTSTEP entirely. So you should take what I write below with at least a small grain of salt. On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Matthew Koehr wrote: > I've been following the c.s.n.* groups for a little while now, and I > was wondering if people wouldn't mind posting what they think sets > NEXTSTEP apart from other OS (desktop OS' like MacOS/Windows, and the > usual UNIX flavors: AIX, Solaris, etc.). NEXTSTEP has a GUI interface that has been sometimes called "a Mac on steroids". It is a matter of religion whether or not you like it better than Windows 95 or MacOS. NEXTSTEP has a development environment, which, though the use of a few minor extensions to the C language and library, approximates an object oriented environment such as in SmallTalk, Lisp, or Prolog. This development environment is the jewel in NeXT's cap, and is being spun off from NEXTSTEP into a product called OpenStep which will appear on other platforms (including Solaris). The future of NEXTSTEP after OpenStep is released is a matter of significant conjecture. > How does it rate as a UNIX > variant? It is a relatively pleasant 4.3BSD like variant, but is quite dated (everything is c.1988). Quite a few annoying old bugs that were fixed long ago in BSD persist in NEXTSTEP, and NeXT has added a number of annoying new bugs. It is possible to work around the annoying old bugs if you have a modern BSD CD-ROM and don't have any qualms about replacing NeXT's binaries with ones you build from BSD sources. One of the most annoying new bugs in NEXTSTEP is a thing called NetInfo, which is best described as "Yellow Pages on steroids". The problems with NetInfo are many-fold. Rather than belabor the point here, the one sentence summary is that most people in heterogenous environments find NetInfo to be a liability rather than an asset. There is no indication that NeXT will upgrade NEXTSTEP to 4.4BSD or to some form of SVR4. Efforts NeXT has made in upgrading, such as installing POSIX capabilities, have been less than successful. > Can X/Motif run on top of NEXTSTEP? Yes, with third-party (commercial) software. > Is there a lot of software > available? Not very much. There is virtually no commercial shrink-wrap software available any longer, although a few vendors are still grimly hanging on. A lot of shareware authors have moved on to other things as well. There is the usual set of freeware. Some of it is very good. In virtually all cases, it was a labor of love, built in spite of NeXT Inc. rather than with its support. > How well does it integrate into heterogenious computing > environments? The good news is that it has Unix TCP/IP. The bad news is that it has NetInfo. NetInfo basically turns off all the familiar Unix flat files, and replaces them with NetInfo's binary database (which can be distributed across a cluster of NEXTSTEP systems using NeXT's proprietary NetInfo protocol). It isn't possible to turn off NetInfo without losing DNS support; worse, NetInfo is single-threaded and all DNS queries go through NetInfo. Thus, a single DNS query can block all information requests (aliases, bootptab, bootparams, exports, fstab, group, hosts, networks, passwd, printcap, protocols, rpc, or services) for an arbitrary length of time. Losing access to passwd for minutes at a time can be particularly devastating. NeXT is supposedly fixing this problem (after 6 years!!), but as I said there is considerable speculation that NEXTSTEP will die (taking NetInfo with it) in favor of OpenStep. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Slow transfer to 3COM 3C579 on NeXT Date: 6 Oct 1995 20:28:09 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <454hip$rls@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <44t5dc$62s@kaleka.seanet.com> The culprit here is the size of the buffer on the 3COM card. The card's buffer can't hold more than one full size Ethernet packet (about 1500 bytes). This is technically fine, and works well for Netware, Ethertalk, and similar protocols. Unix services, however, use IP based protocols (TCP, UDP, etc) which, in thier Ethernet implementations, when handed large blocks of data, tend to pump out bursts of max size Ethernet packets at miniumum interval (e.g. just far enough apart in time to meet the collision avoidance requirements of Ethernet.) When a series of , say five Ethernet packets (representing, for example, 1 UDP packet from a NFS server) come roaring down the wire, timing for cards with a small buffer can get dicey. The first packet lands in the card, almost filling it's buffer. The card sends an interrupt to the host, which (eventually, after higher priority interrupts are serviced) then tells the device driver that data is available from the card. The driver then does programmed I/O (probably over that slow ISA bus) to fetch all the bytes of data. If we get lucky, we'll clear enough buffer space before the next packet arrives that it can be saved in the buffer. If not (often the case!), the higher level protocol stack will eventually notice that it only has a fragment of the needed data, and will fire a request back to the sending machine, which will then retransmit packets 2-5. (details depend on the protocol and implementation, but you get the idea.) We'll get packet 2, drop 3-5 on the floor, and again, the higher level protocol stack will fire a request back to the sending machine, which will then retransmit packets 3-5. The packets will all arrive eventually, after much retransmission. The higher level protocols are robust enough to recover in spite of all this nonsense. The best way to fix this is to use an Ethernet card with enough buffer space to hold all the packets in a burst. I personally suggest the Intel EtherExpress (about 30% cheaper than the 3COM cards!) or, for PCI, the Cogent cards. 8-16 Kb of buffer is plenty. Some protocols (notably NFS) can be detuned sufficiently to avoid overrunning the card's buffers. For NFS, look in the manual pages at the rsize and wsize options. Setting these to 1024 in networks with 3COM cards makes things much better. Finally, for some operating systems, intrepid hackers have written custom drivers, hand tuned within an inch of thier lives, to reduce the number of dropped packets. Some implementations may have unpleasant effects on interrupt latencies for other devices, so ask around for the best versions if you aren't writing these yourself. 3COM's ball park also suffers from inadequate buffering, especially in winter. Mike Paquette -- Damn it, Steve, I'm an engineer, not a marketeer!
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Date: 7 Oct 1995 05:03:34 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <4551n6$3v3@news4.digex.net> References: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> msmail.koehrm@tsod.lmig.com (Matthew Koehr) wrote: > I've been following the c.s.n.* groups for a little while now, > and I was wondering if people wouldn't mind posting what they > think sets NEXTSTEP apart from other OS (desktop OS' like > MacOS/Windows, and the usual UNIX flavors: AIX, Solaris, etc.). > How does it rate as a UNIX variant? Can X/Motif run on top of > NEXTSTEP? Is there a lot of software available? How well does > it integrate into heterogenious computing environments? Unlike MacOS/Windows, NEXTSTEP is based on a Mach kernel, on top of which sits Unix...Something between BSD 4.3 & 4.4. It's a pretty stable unix box, and most if not all unix apps compile w/o problems... (you of course get the standard BSD suite of apps there too, accessible through a VERY nice terminal app) If you really want to see X (to each their own...) you can get one of several products that lets you run X/Motif apps under NS...This is not a problem. What I like about NS is the balance of GUI and UNIX. If you want you could never access the command line, and get by with just the very nice GUI... But, you could also just do everything like a normal unix terminal through terminal... But together, there are some wonderful synergies that evolve... As to what sets NS apart from other OS...speaking strictly from OS stand point... Not too much. It is based on Mach, but NT and other OS's have similar foundations. The VM system is nice in that is dynamic (well semi-it only grows, bugs seem to prevent it from ever shringking :)... And you get the standard multi-user/tasking/threading bla bla bla baggage. The thing that really makes the environment, are the development tools. All NS apps are made with the same tools. But that is not OS stuff... > I'm considering NEXTSTEP for use on a PC, and would like to > know what makes it superior to something like Linux or Solaris > for Intel. From what I've seen, NEXTSTEP's interface is much > more elegant than something like X/Motif, but I'd rather have > a strong UNIX than a pretty interface. Well, you get a much more robust development environment if you buy it... You get display postscript, and [quick]renderman. But, the price tag is high (unless you are in academia) and the number of users is small (which may change after OpenStep is released). Also you get great portability, at least in the sense that NS is available now on 4 different platforms (NeXT, Intel, HP, Sun), and once OpenStep is release it will be on PowerPC and maybe others... -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: Ron Wood <ron> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 2.1 FTP archive sites disappearing? Date: 6 Oct 1995 15:57:14 GMT Organization: CE-CERT Message-ID: <453jkq$s9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <45282h$hrr@ulowell.uml.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have quite a bit of NS 2.1 software, plus lots of 3.n (none of which runs on my slab which stil runs 2.1. I don't think I have that version of Emacs, though. Anonymous ftp to bigtop.bville.com. -- Ron Wood, Systems Administrator CE-CERT, UCR
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: More Zip drive info Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 01:31:53 GMT Message-ID: <1995Oct7.013153.8644@bilver.oau.org> References: <1995Sep26.234930.21377@bilver.oau.org> <1995Oct4.140042.5111@bilver.oau.org> <DFzA7D.7z7@novell.co.uk> <dtran.892.307490E8@ucla.edu> In article <dtran.892.307490E8@ucla.edu>, Daniel Tran <dtran@ucla.edu> wrote: >In article <DFzA7D.7z7@novell.co.uk> msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) writes: >>From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) >>Subject: Re: More Zip drive info >>Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:13 GMT > >>Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote: >>: In article <44si6t$3ga@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de>, >>: Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote: > >>[...] >>: And MANY MANY THANKS for your boot program. I'm sure I speak >>: for a great many users in saying that it really solves a lot of >>: problems using more than one OS on a drive. > >>Seconded! > >I'm sorry I missed the original threads. What is this boot program and where >can I get it. It sounds like something that can save me a lot of work.. Daniel - don't feel lost. There was never any mention of the boot program until Thomas responded to a message in the 'zip' thread. I have been using his multiple boot program for over a year, and just injected a very heartfelt thanks to him publicly for the effort he put into that program. I think I got it from ftp.novell.de but I'm not 100% sure. I've been using it for about a year. When you use it a menu comes up with numbered choices showing you the OS you wish to boot. It also builds a 'recovery' disk so that if you happened to get screwed by an un-named company from Washington state that thinks it has every right in the world to over-write your boot tracks, you can recover and restore back to the original. It's one of those little programs that someone put together that makes everyone who uses it quite thankful for the effort put into it. That being said - I'm using on an HD other than the one with my SCO stuff on it. That one has another boot manager that will permit re-writing the boot track - which was quite neccesary after putting DOS 6.x on the system :-( -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: kelleycomp@aol.com (KELLEYcomp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: More about the NeXT keyboards, mice and manuals Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:33:43 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <455707$63l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> To answer many of the questions from my first posting, if I didn't answer all the questions please e-mail. I tried to be very specific in the items we have... if you don;t see the description, IT AIN'T HERE. I would love to get some technical specs on the Non-ADB and the ADB NeXT keyboards... specifically if a non-ADB (Din 8 serial) can be made to function as an ADB (Din 4 Male). Also has anyone mapped the wires used in the connections? Anything would be appreciated. 1) The pallet of manuals are NEW. These are NEW user Packs with USER's GUIDE (Step by step on using NeXT software etc.), Here's How (A Quick HOW TO REF) and Owner's Guild (Setup, Troubleshooting, SCSI, Memory). These are $7 ea, but would be willing to donate to a qualified charity. The Keyboards NeXT ADB, ADB cable include with keyboards $59 ea Mice are $25 ea... ADB cable include with keyboards. All are new (OEM) packed. Price Quoted are for ADB and Serial Keyboards and ADB mice (US, UK, Swiss German, German, Swiss French, French and Italian) YES WE DO SHIP INTERNATIONAL... it doesn't cost that much either!!! Shipping to international destinations depends on Qty and weights... please be very specific on what you are looking for. US versions have no quantity price breaks. International keyboard interest should fax or e-mail specifics. We do have part numbers avail. if needed. Call or E-Mail Brent D. Keley ++++++++++++++++++ ORDER INFORMATION NO TAX OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA TO ORDER simply Call or E-Mail with the following information: Name, Shipping Address, Telephone # Payment Terms: Pre-Pay, Credit Cards (+3%), COD CASH (NOT avail. outside US) Shipping: UPS, Airborne Express, FedEX* (NO US MAIL DELIVERY) *Try our NEW FEDEX PowerShip... 2nd day air delivery at about half the price of UPS GROUND! (Some Shipping Destinations DO NOT Apply for discount) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CALL Brent D. Kelley KELLEY computers 4323 unit 1, Anthony Court Rocklin CA 95677 tel. 916-652-1880 * 916-652-1881 fax Orders only 800-673-6227 TOLL FREE KELLEYcomp@aol.com, kelcompm@netcom.com
From: dekelver@basil-mcrae.rchland.ibm.com (Jeff Dekelver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disabling the power key on 3.2 moto -- NO WAY Date: 7 Oct 1995 04:55:29 GMT Organization: IBM Message-ID: <455181$e5j@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <6203743001A23A7C@-SMF-> <4538hl$frg@news.it.gvsu.edu> There is a way to do it. You have to be on the mach kernel, and be on as root. There's a flag that gets set, that disables the power on key. You can also disable the other keys. I just can't remember the exact systax that has to be typed in. Sorry... A sys-admin should know that one. ---------------------------------------------------------- Jeff DeKelver dekelver@vnet.ibm.com _____ ____________ ____________ ___====_T__ .][__n_n_|DD[ ===_____ | | | | | | >(________|__|_[________]_|__________|_|__________|_|_________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o o^o` 'o^o o^o` 'o^o o^o` +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+- I think I can... I think I can... I think I can... (I hope).
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Date: 7 Oct 1995 17:00:17 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> References: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.951006204421.3048B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote: > The good news is that it has Unix TCP/IP. > The bad news is that it has NetInfo. NetInfo basically turns > off all the familiar Unix flat files, and replaces them with > NetInfo's binary database (which can be distributed across a > cluster of NEXTSTEP systems using NeXT's proprietary NetInfo > protocol). It isn't possible to turn off NetInfo without losing > DNS support; worse, NetInfo is single-threaded and all DNS queries > go through NetInfo. Thus, a single DNS query can block all > information requests (aliases, bootptab, bootparams, exports, > fstab, group, hosts, networks, passwd, printcap, protocols, rpc, > or services) for an arbitrary length of time. Losing access to > passwd for minutes at a time can be particularly devastating. > NeXT is supposedly fixing this problem (after 6 years!!), but as > I said there is considerable speculation that NEXTSTEP will die > (taking NetInfo with it) in favor of OpenStep. Just a note, NeXT has sent out a 3.3 patch. It seemingly has fixed this problem, at least for me it did. -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: NS/FIP, how do you set the correct time in DOS? Message-ID: <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:59:48 GMT In article <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> "Charles C. Hocker" <american@aztec.asu.edu> writes: > Hello, > I am using NS/FIP and would like to set the correct time > when I boot into DOS. Is there a why that I can have the correct > time in both NS and DOS with out reseting the clock each time? > > Thanks > > Charles The oriblem is that NS stores the time in the GMT timezone. Dos hasn't got the foggiest idea about timezones (so it's local time), though some apps will understand a TZ environment variable. I don't know of a solution other than using GMT for your timezone under NS which may or may not be useful as you do not live in that timezone. But if NS is not connected to the outside world, it might work. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Message-ID: <DG2xAt.LI@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.951006204421.3048B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:56:53 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.92.951006204421.3048B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> writes: > > How well does it integrate into heterogenious computing > > environments? > > The good news is that it has Unix TCP/IP. > > The bad news is that it has NetInfo. NetInfo basically turns off all the > familiar Unix flat files, and replaces them with NetInfo's binary database > (which can be distributed across a cluster of NEXTSTEP systems using > NeXT's proprietary NetInfo protocol). It isn't possible to turn off > NetInfo without losing DNS support; worse, NetInfo is single-threaded and > all DNS queries go through NetInfo. Thus, a single DNS query can block > all information requests (aliases, bootptab, bootparams, exports, fstab, > group, hosts, networks, passwd, printcap, protocols, rpc, or services) for > an arbitrary length of time. Losing access to passwd for minutes at a > time can be particularly devastating. I just received the (final version?) of the patch that NeXT provides for NS 3.3. It has a rewritten multi-threaded Netinfo, so these problems have (at last) been solved, though too late to please Mark. > > NeXT is supposedly fixing this problem (after 6 years!!), but as I said > there is considerable speculation that NEXTSTEP will die (taking NetInfo > with it) in favor of OpenStep. Yeah, it's late. But it's (almost) there. Anyway, I don't think Netinfo will die even if NS does. It's a separate product. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: willers@swissbank.com (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disabling the power key on 3.2 moto -- NO WAY Date: 6 Oct 1995 11:44:19 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, Swiss Bank Center, Zurich Airport Message-ID: <4534qj$8do@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com> References: <6203743001A23A7C@-SMF-> TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY writes > > There is NO WAY that I can find to disable the power key in NS 3.2 moto. > > the 'dwrite' just effects the login window -- once you are logged in, then > you can hit the power key easily. > But if you accept by pressing 'OK' you will only be looged out. It won't power off the NeXT. So no need to worry. - Moritz
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: Mac Emulator Source Date: 7 Oct 1995 19:20:55 GMT Organization: A Big, Black Box. Message-ID: <456jun$8d2@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <454bkr$1joc@ftp.univie.ac.at> a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) wrote: > There is supposed to be a Mac emulator for black hw which uses the mac roms. What is the name of this and who is selling it? THX. It's called Daydream, the current version is ROM 1.31 Kernel 2.11 and it runs System 7.5.1 just spiffy. The manufacturer is QUIX, and they are sold through Opensource http://www.opensource.com (look in software/emulators) I recently purchased one from them $655 US and it runs great. The only thing I noticed it that my "critical" app, CPU Sim, does not run on it. Everything else I throw at it runs just fine. -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!! with installation Date: 8 Oct 1995 05:07:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <457maf$6qn@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Help Me Please!! I am installing NEXTSTEP on my home Intel architecture machine. According to what is in the NeXTanswers docs I have all the correct info and parts to make this work but it's not - Here's my situation: I go through the install and driver disk. I am using a Mitsumi FX400 Cd rom, so I downloaded the Extra Device drivers disk from NeXT. I put in that disk and select the ATAPI and EIDE option. I then go on to the screen where it checks your memory and starts setting up the devices - my system just hangs. I have tried installing in verbose mode but that doesn't help. Does any one have any ideas?? Thank you in advance with your help, Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com Here are my machines specs: 486DX2/66 20 meg RAM 1.2 gig hard drive (2 600 meg partitions) MITSUMI FX400 1B CD-ROM ATI Graphics card Promise EIDE2300 Plus controller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Subject: [Q] non-US PGP binary, where? Message-ID: <DG3vMA.vr@burrow.muc.de> Sender: news@burrow.muc.de Organization: hardly any. . . Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:18:10 GMT Hi! Does anyone know where to find the compiled binaries (just the program no App) of non-US PGP (black 3.2)? thanks in advance, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/ __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 8 Oct 1995 07:59:42 -0500 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Message-ID: <458hvu$5h5@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> References: <msmail.koehrm-0610951620430001@satori.lmig.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.951006204421.3048B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : Just a note, NeXT has sent out a 3.3 patch. It seemingly has fixed : this problem, at least for me it did. : -- : Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) It would be great for the rest of us if NeXT would put it on their ftp server. Maybe it is part of their support plan to do it the way they have. Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Base 64 decoding? Date: 8 Oct 1995 18:19:09 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <4594mt$2eh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <452iht$b1k@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu wrote: : How does one decode Base 64 files? I'm sure there is a more elegant way, but I did long time ago write a small C-program to do that. Should find it somewhere deep down, so send e-mail, but only if you don't get something else. Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: rsmallwo@islandnet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Search for example telecom/financial apps Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:36:10 GMT Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada Message-ID: <951008123610.232AAD6F.rsmallwo@canada> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I need to try out a animation/testing tool on some typical NextStep apps preferably in the telecommunication (ie. customer care, billing, rating, etc.) and financial app (ie. trading, customer care, risk management, etc) area. At the very least, I need a description of the app's features and its analysis and design info (the more the better) in order to build a prototype of it. Even better would be if the source code is available on a server somewhere that I can download. Obviously, I am presuming the commercially developed products will not want to provide any of this info, so I am hoping there is an 'educational' site containing such info. Any ideas on assisting my search for these app types would be appreciated. Please respond to 'rsmallwo@islandnet.com'. Rhys
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question about VGA Drivers Date: 9 Oct 1995 03:51:36 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <45a688$l42@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi All, Got a question.. I just installed NS3.3 and my Video Display will only run the VGA Driver in BW mode. I was wondering if anyoine knows how to get it into Color mode or if there is a default SVGA mode or driver available. Thanks in advance, Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 8 Oct 1995 21:45:28 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <459gpo$7f0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4508k7$e62@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) wrote: > I'm thinking of buying either NS 3.2 or 3.3 for a NeXTstation > turbo color. I've heard that 3.3 is the way to go, since it has > a better mail program, and EOF. I would tend to recommend getting NS-3.3 at this point. > But I remember hearing comments that there were bugs in 3.3, > including the swapfile-grows-without-bounds problem, and (I think) > a gdb bug. I think I also remember someone else commenting that > 3.3 was slower than 3.2 on black hardware. Some of those 3.3 bugs are apparently being addressed in a collection of patches that NeXT is starting to make available. The swapfile-growth problem can be one of several different issues. Some of those issues exist on NS-3.2 as well as NS-3.3 (the one I'm having the most trouble with is on NS-3.2, for instance). It is true that NS-3.3 has some new problems, but it now looks like some of those problems are memory leaks in the clock for Preferences.app. One important thing to notice is that new applications are starting to show up which require the foundation kit. You won't have the foundation kit unless you are running NS-3.3, or running NS-3.2 with the recent versions of EOF. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 9 Oct 1995 04:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <45a7kd$9q2@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: HP 1200 C Printer Error Message-ID: <DG5o5H.LB6@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <1995Oct6.041740.12114@weston.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:32:05 GMT Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : We are getting the following error on an HP 1200 C when trying to print an : image. : ERROR: limitcheck : OFFENDING COMMAND: image : STACK: I have never been able to get my 1200C/PS to work with NeXT's driver. Christian Starkjohann's Par driver did the trick for me. You can find it at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for color clip art ><
Newsgroups: comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: vlcek@byteware.com (Jim Vlcek) Subject: Re: NOVELL, DESTROYER OF UNIX!! Message-ID: <DG5A6H.Iq2@byteware.com> Sender: vlcek@byteware.com (James Vlcek) Organization: The Black Box of Lowertown References: <DG41sM.4Fv@telly.telly.org> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:30:17 GMT Evan Leibovitch writes > So what's been the excuse of SCO, Microport, Banyan, and others who > don't flag hardware? NeXT hasn't done significantly better in the market > after abandoning its hardware side. NeXT has reported a profit for the first time in its existence, after dropping its hardware line in early 1993. One can argue the veracity of the accounting methods which show this profit, but it is clear that NeXT is doing better in the market since abandoning hardware. NeXT is a particularly apt example, in fact. As the owner of a NeXTstation (from which this article is being posted), I watched the in-our-hearts-we- knew-it-was-coming end of the NeXT hardware line. Later on that same year, Dell ditched its own SVR4 product. Now Novell has jettisoned UnixWare, and it's been deja vu all over again. -- Jim Vlcek I don't understand... vlcek@byteware.com ...it's all UNIX to me. The Black Box of Lowertown Beautiful downtown St. Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com Subject: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Message-ID: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> Keywords: NS Intel CD-ROM Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:23:09 GMT Hi, I need some help with selecting a CD-ROM drive for my Pentium NS system. The brief specs of the system I'm trying to build are: Intel Pentium, 32Mb RAM Adaptec 2940 SCSI NS 3.3 I obtained the NS Hardware Compatibility List, and found everything I needed except CD-ROM drives. After getting the cheapest SCSI drive (Sanyo CRD-254SH) I found out it didn't quite work when I tried to install NEXTSTEP. It works fine with Windows - I can read Windows-compatible CDs, but with NS, it spins for a while and comes with diagnostic 'Drive not ready'. I assume the problem might be either 1. - SCSI adaptor (I am using Adaptec 2940) 2. - CD-ROM drive. Since the SCSI adaptor is listed as NS-compatible, I bet the problem is with the drive. If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands of CD-ROM drives are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! Thanks in advance Dmitry Bulbin reply to: dbulb@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com
From: jeff@econ.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Ely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: driver for black printer from remote Win95 pc Date: 9 Oct 1995 15:35:39 GMT Organization: Is a fine idea Message-ID: <45bfgc$mlu@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 I want to preint over the network to from a PC running Windows 95 to my black printer which is connected to a cube. I am using Samba to export the printer to the MS network client. I see the printer from the PC, but I need to choose a driver for the printer. Anyone know where I can get a driver? Or can you suggest another postscript driver that will do? Jeff
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Date: 9 Oct 1995 22:04:21 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <45c695$nhf@news4.digex.net> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com wrote: > If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands of CD-ROM drives > are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! I would recommend getting any of the toshiba, sony or nec drives. Particularly the toshiba 3401, or 3501...(although I don't love the company, their products are nice). They have fast access times and they have the bonus feature that they will work with our soon to be released free ware CDapp that will let you digitally dupe audio over the SCSI bus :) -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: idean@aztec.co.za (Ian Dean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.sun,aus.computers.os2,aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Micro$loth Windoze 95 Badges - how they should be Date: 9 Oct 1995 22:33:32 GMT Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <45c7vs$h03@grovel.iafrica.com> References: <ckt-2609951321530001@17.255.39.185> <44arsf$gvi@frigg.cci.de> <453ehk$h81@news1.cle.ab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <453ehk$h81@news1.cle.ab.com>, daryl.krzewinski@ab.com says... > >>> I was under the impression that Phillips, a Dutch company, came up >>> with the CD, and that the length is actually 72 minutes. Erroneous? > >>Hmm. Perhaps I was told "folklore". I was under the impression that the CD >>was invented by Sony, and was 72 mins, cos' the boss of Sony's favourite piece >>of music was Beethoven's 9th Symphony. > >>Perhaps someone involved with this could shed some light?? > >Alistair is quite correct. Phillips did about 95% of the development >work on the CD, and nearly all of the hard points such as size, >format, capacity, etc. had been decided upon when Phillips ran into >hard economic times and sold the development to Sony. Little was left >to do at that point, and Sony only had to work out some details and >stake their claim as the inventors. > Hmmm.... The CD is patented to Phillips AND Sony and was a joint development... >I'm sure the 72 minute limit reason is pure folklore as well. While I The limit is 76 minutes... >don't have a first-hand fact to replace it, I *do* have a particular >performance of Beethoven's Ninth that runs close to 90 minutes. > Off cassette tape? :) Ian
From: Dario Ringach <dario@hobson.cns.nyu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Foreground and background colors in Next Applications Date: 9 Oct 1995 15:03:41 GMT Organization: Center for Neural Science, NYU Message-ID: <45bdkd$rj7@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I set the background and foreground colors of a Next application such as Edit and Terminal? I can't seem to find anything in the manuals. Thanks in advance. -- Dario -- Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 lab: (212) 998-7730 Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 fax: (212) 995-4011 New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu New York, NY 10003 |
From: Dario Ringach <dario@hobson.cns.nyu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Foreground and background colors in Next Applications Date: 9 Oct 1995 15:03:53 GMT Organization: Center for Neural Science, NYU Message-ID: <45bdkp$rp8@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I set the background and foreground colors of a Next application such as Edit and Terminal? I can't seem to find anything in the manuals. Thanks in advance. -- Dario -- Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 lab: (212) 998-7730 Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 fax: (212) 995-4011 New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu New York, NY 10003 |
From: chin@clark.net (Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 9 Oct 1995 23:35:13 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <45cbjh$lu9@clarknet.clark.net> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <45c695$nhf@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com wrote: : > If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands of CD-ROM drives : > are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! : : I would recommend getting any of the toshiba, sony or nec drives. : : Particularly the toshiba 3401, or 3501...(although I don't love : the company, their products are nice). I friend of mine had problems getting a 3501 (or 3601? the quad speed one) to work with the Buslogic BT-445C in a Canon object.station 41. It couldn't mount the NEXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM properly... the system would see the Toshiba drive, but it says that the CD-ROM has no valid label and of course, it could not mount it. A quad speed Plextor worked just fine. Any ideas? I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Buslogic problem. I haven't had a problem with the 3301 or 3401 on other systems... they and the Plextor 3028/5028 are the only drives I know that can be used to install NS on a HP workstation. As for the original question, in the myriad world of various SCSI devices and controller from many manufacturers, the problem is often not NEXTSTEP. If the SCSI device conforms to the same common command set and behaves properly, it should work. In practice, that means products where the manufacturer skimped and only got to work with their special device driver under DOS usually doesn't work. Or sometimes it's just voodoo. I haven't had a problem with DPT's or Adaptec's with any SCSI device I've used. Early NEC single speed and the 3Xp I know don't work. Later NEC's might require switching to SCSI-2 mode (the 3Xe for example). Some models of the NEC 3Xe and 3Xi require firmware upgrades to fix bugs. I always hesitate on drives that are available *only* with their own SCSI controllers - I wonder if they did enough testing. Models I know that work: Plextor 2X, 4X, Sony 1X, 2X, NEC 3X[ei] (with proper firmware), 4X, Toshiba 1X, 2X and the Chinon 2X. Others have reported success with the Toshiba 4X on other controllers. Most likely the Plextor 6X, the NEC 6X, and the Sony 4X work also. When it doubt, get it from someplace with a 30 day money-back guarantee. ..Bill
From: chopper@gazette.patch.tandem.com (michael chop) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ip aliasing? Date: 10 Oct 1995 00:58:03 GMT Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <45cger$fbq@newsflash.tss.com> hi all, i'd like to know if the OS supports ip aliasing like Solaris 2.x does. will an ethernet controler answer to more than one ip address? is this possible? thanks, michael.. -- -- michael chop ------------------------------ __o __o Teknekron Software Systems ~~~~~ -------- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ email: chopper@tss.com ~~~~~ ------- (;)/ ( ) (;)/ ( ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: barclay@king.trs.ntc.nokia.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software Ideas....... Date: 10 Oct 1995 09:16:09 GMT Organization: Nokia Group Message-ID: <45ddkp$t4k@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> References: <452c83$9sc@news.tamu.edu> Hi Adventure People, I started writing an adventure system around 5 years ago on an Acorn Archimedes System (any of you people in USA ever heard of it - it had the faster RISC processor you could buy for less than $2000 - it was cool!). Anyway, when I upgraded to a NeXT system I ported the system to that but then forgot about it for a long time. Last year I recoded the whole thing in C++ (most of it) and have recently started reworking the Adventure description parser. Right now - its not usable, but it is on my list of tasks for later this year. I would like to hear from anybody wishing to provide encouragement, ideas or testing (by writing some adventures). Alan Barclay The Electric Scribe Co. Ltd. escribe@wintermute.co.uk ----- This posting has nothing to do with Nokia Telecomms.
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Building Standard Net Programs on NeXT Date: 10 Oct 1995 07:21:34 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <45dkvu$2t3@papoose.quick.com> References: <DFxtGH.LI3@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> In article <DFxtGH.LI3@boss.cs.ohiou.edu>, Walter C3arlip <carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> wrote: >When I try to "make" bison I get the following error: > >conflicts.c:40: only 0 args to macro 'alloca' (1 expected) >*** Exit 1 > >I've tried everything I can think of. Anyone know what causes >this and how to fix it? This is due to a rather lame (and old) configuration #ifdef. Basically if you don't have an alloca.h header file to include, and your system is not AIX, then it 'conveniently' defines an old style K&R style function prototype to avoid generating warnings about alloca's return type. Just delete this line, or comment it out, and it will compile. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cost and requirements to use OpenStep Date: 10 Oct 1995 15:03:57 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <45e20t$go7@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> I'd like to develop an application on my Intel NeXTStep that I can then run on m68k, sun, hp, dec, WindowsNT, Windows95. I know I can generate a FAT binary that will accomplish this, but: 1) What software (minimum) must be on the target machine? 2) Is a runtime license required on the target machine for OpenStep? 3) What are the costs for minimum licenses to run software on these machines? 4) If running this on NT or 95, What is minimum software and cost to the user. I'm in a situation where I need to provide good alternatives to Motif applications that can run on a server and be viewed (almost for free) by clients running XWindows client software. On the unix machines, this comes or is easily and cheaply available. I'm sure that there will be X client systems for NT and 95 also. I have to look at the cost justification for going with OpenStep versus Motif development (I love OpenStep, customer things Motif is the way to go.) I can factor in support, maintainance, etc., but need to know the requirements. Thanks, -- - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PCMCIA and tip Date: 10 Oct 1995 15:28:19 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <45e3ej$i4u@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Trying to use tip and my PCMCIA modem card. I've installed latest 3.3 serial drivers. When I type tip a9600 I get a connected message. If i try tip 6-6269, I get cannot synchronize with Hayes. also for tip a9600 6-6269 how do I configure /etc/remotes to allow using the PCMCIA card? -- - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP 1200 C Printer Error Date: 10 Oct 1995 14:41:07 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <45e0m3$j0p@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <1995Oct6.041740.12114@weston.com> In article <1995Oct6.041740.12114@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > We are getting the following error on an HP 1200 C when trying to print [stuff deleted] > Thanks > Wes The only times I have encountered problems printing to a 1200C/PS is when I change to high quality output in the Options panel. The I get an error message, no matter if text or images are to be printed. Let me know what you find out. jk
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT advantages? Date: 10 Oct 1995 14:16:13 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <45dv7d$mgf@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > Just a note, NeXT has sent out a 3.3 patch. It seemingly has fixed > this problem, at least for me it did. Where is this ? I can't find it on NeXTAnswers -pete.
From: vga@ix.netcom.com (Vassilis AG Aivazis ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help Date: 10 Oct 1995 21:19:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <45eo16$mdj@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> If you have an NEC Versa P/75 please emil me Thank you!
From: vladk@panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connection to a POP mail server Date: 10 Oct 1995 14:16:57 -0400 Organization: secret masonic handshakes of b'klyn Distribution: none Message-ID: <45edap$p6h@panix2.panix.com> References: <45d0es$lgj@panix2.panix.com> Thanks everyone who responded to my inquiry.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 Patch( was Re: NeXT advantages?) Date: 11 Oct 1995 02:31:57 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <45faat$4vg@news4.digex.net> References: <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> <45dv7d$mgf@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote: > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > > Just a note, NeXT has sent out a 3.3 patch. It seemingly has > > fixed this problem, at least for me it did. > Where is this ? I can't find it on NeXTAnswers They US mailed it to me... -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gery@ares.fdn.org(Gery_Divry) Subject: TWAIN Compatible Scanners ( any software ??) Message-ID: <1995Oct11.101634.9061@ares.fdn.org> Sender: news@ares.fdn.org Organization: ARES - Lyon, France. Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:16:34 GMT I am looking for a scanning software which can manage scsi Twain compatible scanners ??? if somebody can help me ;-) Sincerely Gery Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy ) ARES Publisher 8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30 69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32 France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
From: barclay@king.trs.ntc.nokia.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Date: 11 Oct 1995 13:13:59 GMT Organization: Nokia Group Message-ID: <45gfun$hoh@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> Keywords: NS Intel CD-ROM I have used Sony and Toshiba (Old Single Speed) CD-ROMS on black NeXT machines with no problems. I currently have an NEC 512? 6x SCSI CD-ROM in a Pentium machine with an NCR SCSI Adapter - which also works with no problems (pretty quick too). Alan Barclay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: boot problem Message-ID: <DGAE3E.2no@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:42:49 GMT I have a NeXT Dimension System running NS3.3. At one time it was networked to a NeXT Cube. Subsequently, I did a complete, including disk formatting, installation of NS3.3. However, I find that about 50% of the time upon powering up and rebooting, the system hangs waiting for a network connection. Usually, I can do a hard reset (Alt-Cmd *) and, after a long-long time, it finishes fsck on my 1.3 GB HD and sucessfully completes the boot process. To the best of my knowledge, no network configuration files have been altered to accomodate a net connection. Question: what am I doing wrong? Is this a hardware problem? Is this a bug in NS3.3? Thanks for your help, Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: brzez@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (Time will fly.. tonight...) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Programming the ET4000W32p and NextStep Date: 11 Oct 1995 17:03:29 GMT Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL Message-ID: <45gtd1$q2j@fnnews.fnal.gov> I've installed NextStep for Intel release 3.2 on my 486 VLB system and it all works well in Normal VGA mode. However, when I try to use the system at SVGA resolutions using my Hercules Dynamite Power VLB 2 meg DRAM card, I can't get the system to display things properly. The system boots up but the screen usually is just a shade of grey. It does not work at any resolution that is supported by the driver. I've tried with different multisync and SVGA monitors and the same problem results, so I think it is a problem with the driver or the card. My card has an acumos ADAC1 and I've noticed that the supported ramdacs in the ET4000w32p driver are the ATT20cxxx and the STG1702 so this may be the problem. I've also noticed that this driver has different configuration files for different resolutions. It seems that one can program the cards registers for different setting and resolutions but I have no idea how to do this. So I'm wondering if there is a fix or update for this driver or is my card not supported at all even though I have the necessary chipset. Also, is there any info on how to program different card registers using the driver configuration (*.vc) files? Here's what a configuration file looks like. Can anyone make any sense out of it? /* * NOTE: Do not put tabs or newline characters inside the * value assigned to the keys in this file since the driver * WILL choke on them. */ "Display Info" = "1024 768 1024 2048 70 RGB:555/16"; /* Standard NEXTSTEP Driver stuff */ "Driver Name" = "ET4000W32i"; "Title" = "ET4000/W32i/W32p Driver"; "Location" = ""; "Family" = "Video"; "Version" = "1.0"; "Server Name" = "ET4000W32i"; "Linear Frame Buffer Length" = "0x200000"; "Memory Maps" = "0x7000000-0x71fffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff"; "DMA Channels" = ""; "I/O Ports" = "0x3b0-0x3e0"; "Linear Frame Buffer Address" = "0x7000000"; "Instance" = "0"; "Display Mode Number" = "0"; "IRQ Levels" = ""; /* VGA registers: * * "Miscellaneous Register" has the value for MISC (0x3c2) * "VGA Sequencer Registers" has values for SR0-SR4 * "VGA CRT Controller Registers" has values for CR00-CR18 * "VGA Attibute Controller Registers" has values for AR00-AR13 * "VGA Graphics Controller Registers" has values for GR00-GR08 */ "Miscellaneous Register" = "0xef"; "VGA Sequencer Registers" = "0x03 0x01 0x0f 0x00 0x0e"; "VGA CRT Controller Registers" = "0xa1 0x7f 0x7f 0x85 0x85 0xb6 0x24 0xf5 0x00 0 x60 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x01 0x02 0x88 0xff 0x00 0x40 0xff 0x25 0xa3 0xff"; "VGA Attribute Controller Registers" = "0x00 0x01 0x02 0x03 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x07 0x08 0x09 0x0a 0x0b 0x0c 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x01 0x00 0x0f 0x00 0x00"; "VGA Graphics Controller Registers" = "0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x40 0x05 0x0f 0 xff"; /* Other registers needed to program this graphics mode. * All the keys that read "Other ..." have been * assigned index-value pairs, so for example the * first two numbers assigned to Other CRT Controller * Registers are 0x31 0x8f. This means that CR31 * should be set to 0x8f. */ "Other Sequencer Registers" = "0x06 0x00 0x07 0xbc"; "Other CRT Controller Registers" = "0x30 0x00 0x31 0x00 0x32 0xc8 0x33 0x00 0x34 0x8a 0x35 0x00 0x36 0xab 0x37 0x8f 0x3f 0x80"; "Other Attribute Controller Registers" = "0x16 0xa0 0x17 0x00"; /* RAMDAC name and command register value */ "RAMDAC Name" = "STG1702"; "DAC Command Registers" = "0x18 0x02 0x00"; "Pixel Port Clock" = "16 bits/clock"; /* The following key is used to tell the driver that this mode * does not work with some revisions of the W32i/W32p. */ "Does not work with" = "W32iA W32iB W32pA"; Thanks for any info or help.. -- John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bell@nosc.mil (Tom Bell) Subject: Re: Base 64 decoding? Message-ID: <1995Oct11.173737.9508@nosc.mil> Keywords: mime, base 64 Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <452iht$b1k@usc.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:37:37 GMT You might want to try John Myers' munpack utility. You should be able to find a copy of the source at ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/. In article <452iht$b1k@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu writes: > How does one decode Base 64 files? > > --- > Thanks and be well, > > Matthew > > ================================================================== > Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k > reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome > USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key > > (misc stuff deleted...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Bell (619) 553-5791 bell@nosc.mil (619) 553-6811 FAX NCCOSC RDT&E DIV (Naval Command, Control and Ocean Surveillance Center RDT&E Div.)
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Patch (was Re: NeXT advantages?) Date: 12 Oct 1995 00:42:47 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-i-17.usc.edu Message-ID: <45hoa7$ms7@usc.edu> References: <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> <45dv7d$mgf@netty.york.ac.uk> <45faat$4vg@news4.digex.net> <45gdfa$40s@usenet.rpi.edu> > I don't believe it's been mailed to everyone, though. Maybe it's just registered developers for now, or something like that? I talked today with a NeXT consultant and he said they were planning on releasing a complete NS 3.3 patch sometime in poss. November. He said they'd released certain things to certain people for testing, but want to release the whole kit a kaboodle after they're certain it's not got breakages. November was tentative from the sound in his voice. -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 11 Oct 1995 22:14:24 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <45hfk0$2ns@news.iastate.edu> References: <DFzHDA.L2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans writes > In article <4508k7$e62@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, > David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > >I'm thinking of buying either NS 3.2 or 3.3 for a NeXTstation > >turbo color. I've heard that 3.3 is the way to go, since it > >has a better mail program, and EOF. But I remember hearing > >comments that there were bugs in 3.3, including the > >swapfile-grows-without-bounds problem, and (I think) a gdb > >bug. I think I also remember someone else commenting that 3.3 > >was slower than 3.2 on black hardware. > > There's the swapfile problem, which Preferences apparently contributes > greately, and I've heard that the serial drivers are broken, even on black. > I'm sticking with 3.2 for now. > I would second that. We put 3.3 on a few of the black machines here and had lots of little problems with them. End-ed up "downgrading" a couple of them back to 3.2, which is much more satisfactory. There are some nice add-ons in 3.3, particularly the MIME compatible Mail.app, but that app works under 3.2, so if you have 3.2 and 3.3, just stay with 3.2 and drag the 3.3 Mail.app over Hope this helps --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov Associate Project Manager:
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Patch (was Re: NeXT advantages?) Date: 11 Oct 1995 12:31:38 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <45gdfa$40s@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <456bn1$7aq@news4.digex.net> <45dv7d$mgf@netty.york.ac.uk> <45faat$4vg@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote: > > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > > > Just a note, NeXT has sent out a 3.3 patch. It seemingly > > > has fixed this problem, at least for me it did. > > Where is this ? I can't find it on NeXTAnswers > They US mailed it to me... I don't believe it's been mailed to everyone, though. Maybe it's just registered developers for now, or something like that? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: vladk@panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Connection to a POP mail server Date: 10 Oct 1995 01:31:08 -0400 Organization: secret masonic handshakes of b'klyn Distribution: none Message-ID: <45d0es$lgj@panix2.panix.com> Hi, there: Since there is no begining and no end to The Maintenance Saga, I have a couple of questions to ask. My internet provider runs a POP mailserver, so I can send email messages out, but I can't receive it on (or get it forwarded to) my host. I am using the public domain PPP (alby-ppp) and it works fine. I've got a turbo black box running under NS 3.0. I hope that someone might know about a POP client which works with NS 3.0 and NeXTMail. Please tell me where to get one. A public domain version would be OK, but I might be able to shell couple of bucks and buy one, if necessary. I might upgrade to NS 3.3 very soon, so please consider this possibility as well.
From: lehmann@iaeb.kloeckner-hb.de (Dirk Lehmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSfiP Booting Problem (EIDE/SCSI) Date: 12 Oct 1995 08:48:16 GMT Organization: Stahlwerke Bremen Sender: lehmann@iaeb (Dirk Lehmann) Distribution: world Message-ID: <45ikog$bcg@opuskl.kloeckner-hb.de> Keywords: EIDE, SCSI,OS/2 Bootmanager Hello, I recently installed NeXTstep 3.3 on a PC equiped with a 1MB EIDE / 1 MB SCSI harddisk. I installed the NeXTstep on the SCSI disk and DOS-stuff on the EIDE disk. On the EIDE disk I installed the bootmanager from OS/2 and a 7 MB partition for NeXTstep to start. The EIDE disk gets recognized from NeXTstep without problems. I put the System.config on that 7 MB partition an edited the Instanc0.table from Kernel = "mach_kernel" to "sd(0)nach_kernel". Right now I can boot the machine and jump directly to NeXTstep via bootmanager. In the NeXTstep starting area I hit return (also automatic start after 10 sec) and the screen is getting black, nothing happens any more (Hard Reset) But if I enter -v and hit return, the machine is starting correctly from the SCSI drive. How do I have to configure the system for booting without typing -v ? Thanks in advance Dirk
From: vgasic@news.enet.net (apogee@enet.net) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: US-Mid CA Area:SQL Server & Sybase data modeling/administrator Recruiter: Date: 12 Oct 1995 04:12:43 -0700 Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <45it7b$4mj@pinyon.enet.net> US-Mid CA Area:SQL Server & Sybase data modeling/administrator Recruiter: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 month contract assignment with possible hire or extension Looking for consultant with strong data modeling & maintenance skills to model & create physical database, managing existing SQL servers, building interfaces with data sources, working to transition MS/SQL databases to data warehouse, assisting application programmers with query performance issues & creating- managing various procedures & triggers. Skills required include : 1. BS in CS/MIS or equivalent. 2. 3-5 years experience working with relational tech. as a DBA. 3. Knowledge of MS SQL Server and/or Sybase System 10. 4. Knowledge of Transact SQL. 5. Data modeling experience. Hourly Rate: TOP DOLLARS PAID!!! WILL SPONSOR THE RIGHT PERSON!! for further consideration send your resume to: -- apogee@enet.net voice: (602) 502-0545, fax: (602) 502-0534/ (602)275-3343 13610 N. Scottsdale Road, #10, Scottsdale, AZ 85254 NeXT Mail Welcomed!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: A.Leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene) Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Message-ID: <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl> Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USENET News System) Organization: KPN Research References: <DFzHDA.L2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <45hfk0$2ns@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:06:52 GMT tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) wrote: >> I'm sticking with 3.2 for now. >> >I would second that. We put 3.3 on a few of the black machines here and >had lots of little problems with them. End-ed up "downgrading" a couple of >them back to 3.2, which is much more satisfactory. There are some nice >add-ons in 3.3, particularly the MIME compatible Mail.app, but that app >works under 3.2, so if you have 3.2 and 3.3, just stay with 3.2 and drag >the 3.3 Mail.app over What about EOF. More and more apps require it (OmniWeb 2.0). That is a good reason to move to NS3.3 Arnaud
From: matthews@reeses.uucp (Bradley O. Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NSfiP Booting Problem (EIDE/SCSI) Date: 12 Oct 1995 13:02:58 GMT Organization: University of Cincinnati Message-ID: <45j3m2$ffg@uceng.uc.edu> References: <45ikog$bcg@opuskl.kloeckner-hb.de> Keywords: EIDE, SCSI,OS/2 Bootmanager >But if I enter -v and hit return, the machine is starting correctly from > the SCSI drive > >How do I have to configure the system for booting without typing -v ? if you go into Configure.app in the summary of devices page, on the bottom is an expert button. If you select that it will pull up a listing of settings. If you go to the 4th one, Boot Graphics and change it to No, cap N this will supress the boot up problems. Bradley Matthews
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Looking for NS 2.X Date.app Message-ID: <1995Oct12.122815.292@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:28:15 GMT Subject says it all. Thanks Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DGCLGH.AIn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:17:05 GMT References: <DFzHDA.L2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <45hfk0$2ns@news.iastate.edu> <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl>, Arnaud Leene <A.Leene@research.ptt.nl> wrote: >tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) wrote: > > >>> I'm sticking with 3.2 for now. >>> >>I would second that. We put 3.3 on a few of the black machines here and >>had lots of little problems with them. End-ed up "downgrading" a couple of >>them back to 3.2, which is much more satisfactory. There are some nice >>add-ons in 3.3, particularly the MIME compatible Mail.app, but that app >>works under 3.2, so if you have 3.2 and 3.3, just stay with 3.2 and drag >>the 3.3 Mail.app over > >What about EOF. More and more apps require it (OmniWeb 2.0). That is a >good reason to move to NS3.3 > Hmmmm.....OmniWeb 2.0 requiring it is pretty much reason enough to get it. Unless the serial drivers are broken, of course....I never did get a clear answer on that. So, can non-Turbo black boxes run their serial ports rock-solid at 38400 under 3.3? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 12 Oct 1995 17:44:08 GMT Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Message-ID: <45jk58$khu@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl> In article <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl> A.Leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene) writes: > What about EOF. More and more apps require it (OmniWeb 2.0). That is a > good reason to move to NS3.3 3.3 does not include EOF. If you buy EOF, you can use it on 3.2 as well. What OmniWeb is using is Foundation. That _is_ included with 3.3 (well, the parts that they are using are). It is _also_ included with EOF, so if you have EOF on 3.2 you can use apps that require (this part of) Foundation. -- Any similarities between my views and those of AT&T are purely coincidental. andrew.abernathy@attws.com, AT&T Wireless Services NeXTmail, MIME, MSMail, and SunMail in a pinch http://www.serv.net/~wire/andrew.abernathy/ 14335 Northeast 24th Street, Bldg B, Bellevue, WA 98007, U.S.A.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: TeXView Blobs Message-ID: <DGCuyG.D0q@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: postmaster@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:42:16 GMT After a fair amount of ado (but not too much), I've installed the newest TeX on my NeXT Station. However . . . . after putting in the recommended patches, TeXView compiled, but it doesn't preview correctly: the preview appears as blobs roughly in the shape of the text, but not recognizable as characters. Everything looks OK, metafont automatically builds pk files, dvips works (even from TeXView), etc. Any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, --Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: steve@sparkle (Steve Koch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NSfiP Booting Problem (EIDE/SCSI) Date: 12 Oct 1995 20:18:52 GMT Organization: inteleNET Internet Services Message-ID: <45jt7c$bl2@vodka.intele.net> References: <45ikog$bcg@opuskl.kloeckner-hb.de> lehmann@iaeb.kloeckner-hb.de (Dirk Lehmann) wrote: >Hello, >I recently installed NeXTstep 3.3 on a PC equiped with a 1MB EIDE / 1 MB SCSI >harddisk. I installed the NeXTstep on the SCSI disk and DOS-stuff on the EIDE >disk. On the EIDE disk I installed the bootmanager from OS/2 and a 7 MB partition for NeXTstep to start. The EIDE disk gets recognized from NeXTstep without problems. I put the System.config on that 7 MB partition an edited the >Instanc0.table from Kernel = "mach_kernel" to "sd(0)nach_kernel". >Right now I can boot the machine and jump directly to NeXTstep via bootmanager. >In the NeXTstep starting area I hit return (also automatic start after 10 sec) and the screen is getting black, nothing happens any more (Hard Reset) >But if I enter -v and hit return, the machine is starting correctly from the SCSI drive. >How do I have to configure the system for booting without typing -v ? > Thanks in advance > Dirk Replace "Yes" with "No" in the "Boot Graphics" line found in your Instance0.table. According to the setup you have described, you will need to make sure that your System.config files on the EIDE disk match your System.config on the SCSI. Steve Koch NS SySTEMS Group Deanox Group, Inc. 800-390-0727 nsgroup@deanox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sta@logibec.com Subject: Re: Disabling the power key on 3.2 moto -- NO WAY Message-ID: <1995Oct12.165733.2095@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada References: <455181$e5j@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:57:33 GMT In article <455181$e5j@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> dekelver@basil-mcrae.rchland.ibm.com (Jeff Dekelver) writes: > > > There is a way to do it. You have to be on the mach kernel, > and be on as root. There's a flag that gets set, that > disables the power on key. You can also disable the other > keys. I just can't remember the exact systax that has to > be typed in. Sorry... A sys-admin should know that one. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Jeff DeKelver > dekelver@vnet.ibm.com > > _____ ____________ ____________ ___====_T__ > .][__n_n_|DD[ ===_____ | | | | | | > >(________|__|_[________]_|__________|_|__________|_|_________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o o^o` 'o^o o^o` 'o^o o^o` > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+- > > I think I can... I think I can... I think I can... > (I hope). Why not modify the <Keyborad>.keymapping file with Keyborad.app Stephane Ah-Ki Logibec Groupe
From: Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting up a Fax Spool for multiple intel and black NeXT systems ... Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:15:01 -0700 Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951012161013.29340H-100000@kisa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am working in an environment of motorola and intel NeXT systems and we would like to set up a Fax Spool of some kind for the large amount of information which we send out daily. I am looking for a way to send all the fax files to a queue where they are sent out from a single machine on the net. Could someone give me pointers to software or hardware with which a spool of Fax items could be set up? Thank you for your time. --------------------------------------------------------- Griogair (206) 343-7828 Seanet Internet Services griogair@seanet.com ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a BBS package that runs on the Black NeXT machines? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:16:50 -0700 Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951012161512.29340I-100000@kisa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a BBS package that would compile for an '030 NeXT cube? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------- Griogair (206) 343-7828 Seanet Internet Services griogair@seanet.com ---------------------------------------------------------
From: pickett@indiana.edu (David Pickett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using USR Sportster 28800 modem for fax on NeXT hardware? Date: 13 Oct 1995 01:59:43 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <45kh6f$mrn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Keywords: fax modem Hi! I have a US Robotics 28800 sportster data/fax modem. Does anyone know how to make this run on the NeXT in fax mode? The only driver I have is the one for my Dove fax modem. The Dove generally works fine; but every so often I find a fax machine at the other end for which I get a message something like "file contains features not suuported". I never have been able to find out in what technical way these fax machines are different from mine. Hence I would like to try the USR modem which is already working fine on data. david -- Dr David A Pickett Director of Recording Arts Indiana University School of Music Bloomington IN 47405 EMAIL PICKETT@BLUMLEIN.MUSIC.INDIANA.EDU
From: lc30@cornell.edu (Lewis Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Audio conferencing programming help Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:39:24 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <lc30-1310951039240001@128.253.203.97> References: <DFtFsC.IBL@ul.ie> I found some interesting programs like Talkback, etc., in the Peanuts ftp site. Hope you can find something useful there. In article <DFtFsC.IBL@ul.ie>, 9222677@ul.ie wrote: > Can you help me > > I'm doing a project on audio conferencing on a LAN and would > appreciate any guidelines that would help me. (ie. ftp sites of useful > programs or www sites etc.) > > If you can help in any way you can Email me or attach your reply to > this message. > > Thanks again. > Email - 9222677@ul.ie
From: vladk@tanuki.panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax application for NS Turbo/NS 3.0/BOCA 28.8 Date: 13 Oct 1995 05:53:22 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <45kusi$poc@news1.panix.com> 1) Does anybody know about a FAX application available for NeXT Turbo running under NS 3.0? I have a Boca 28.8 faxmodem (fax class 2 compatible). I've heard that Black&White software has a such product, but I couldn't figure out the name and whether it is compatible with the above configuration (apparently, they don't have a web page). If someone knows about a decent public domain program, it would not hurt either. 2) What is the deal with the FaxReader available on the system? It seems that it can only display/forward a received fax. I tried to configure the fax using PrintManager, but it doesn't seem to be working. Every time I get mail over PPP link I also get a message that a fax has arrived. How to configure the program correctly so I can use it? Plz help.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 13 Oct 1995 07:36:20 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <45l4tk$r21@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <45jk58$khu@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Andrew Abernathy writes > What OmniWeb is using is Foundation. That _is_ included with 3.3 > (well, the parts that they are using are). It is _also_ included > with EOF, so if you have EOF on 3.2 you can use apps that require > (this part of) Foundation. OK, so let's assume that I have a machine that is licensed for both NS 3.2 and NS 3.3, but that I am too frightened by these rumors about serial drivers breaking to dare do the upgrade. Is there any way to snarf Foundation from 3.3 and add it to 3.2 by hand, or is this completely hopeless? What other things should I grab while I'm at it (besides the fixed Mail.app and those ugly new white icons)? Catapultam habeo. Nisi omnem |================================================ pecuniam mihi dabis, ad caput | Joshua Burton 708/677-3902 burton@het.brown.edu tuum saxum immane mittam. |================================================
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.alt.sources.next,de.alt.binaries.next Subject: TeXmenu 5.0 where? Date: 13 Oct 1995 07:44:48 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <45l5dg$h91@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, last week, I got a mail from the author of TexMenu 5.0, Harald Schlangmann. He announced a new version of his texMenu, which is version 5.0. In his mail, he sais, that TexMenu 5.0 can be found at ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de in the directory /pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions as file TeXmenu5.0pre.NIHS.b.tar He also sais that is is invisinble there, but everyone should be able to fetch it via get. I tried it out several times, but never got the file. Did anyone of you manage to get TexMenu 5.0. If so, could you tell me where? And possibly the correct filename? Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NSfiP Booting Problem (EIDE/SCSI) Date: 13 Oct 1995 12:15:25 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <45ll8t$ls0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <45ikog$bcg@opuskl.kloeckner-hb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dirk Lehmann (lehmann@iaeb.kloeckner-hb.de) wrote: : Hello, [...] : How do I have to configure the system for booting without typing -v ? This looks like the S3/Triton-Problem. Change /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table to include "Boot Graphics" = "No"; Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Stephane Pigeon <pigeon@tele.ucl.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Digital Sound Recording Software Date: 13 Oct 1995 13:17:20 GMT Organization: Labo TELE - Universite Catholique de Louvain Distribution: world Message-ID: <45lot0$dad@sci3.sri.ucl.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm looking for a digital recording software that would be able to deal with a 48kHz digital audio input. I found a program called "SoundWorks" on the NeXT we have in our lab, but the highest allowed sampling frequency is 44.1 kHz only. I also need a "digital attention" that would automatically trigger the recording when some digital signal appears on the bus. Can someone help me? Does some freeware exist? Where can I find it? (We own a Ariel DatPort). Please, contact me directly using e-mail (pigeon@tele.ucl.ac.be) as I'm not usually connected to this newsgroup. Many thanks, Stephane ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephane Pigeon UCL - Laboratoire de Telecommunications et Teledetection Place du Levant, 2 B-1348 Louvain-La-Neuve - BELGIQUE Tel: +32-10-47.80.73 E-mail: Pigeon@tele.ucl.ac.be Fax: +32-10-47.20.89 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (TIMOTHY LUOMA @ TEMPLE * LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com Subject: Re: Looking for NS 2.X Date.app Message-ID: <BD277E3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 13 Oct 95 08:47:00 EDT ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/D ate.2.1.N.b.gz TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for NSI 3.3 driver for NE2100 clone Date: 13 Oct 1995 15:56:03 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <45m26j$ruf@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: NSI ethernet driver, NE2100 I'm looking for an NSI 3.3 driver for an NE2100 clone (Federal Technology Corp. EXOS 105T) ethernet card. Please e-mail any leads. Thanks! P.S. The NEx000 3.2 driver at Oregon State doesn't work on this card. -- Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science E-mail: daugher@tamu.edu Texas A & M University http://www.cs.tamu.edu/faculty/daugher/ College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: Russell Wilcoxon@mail.halcyon.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Date: 13 Oct 1995 19:04:39 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <45md87$jfr@news.halcyon.com> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <45c695$nhf@news4.digex.net> <45cbjh$lu9@clarknet.clark.net> In <45cbjh$lu9@clarknet.clark.net>, chin@clark.net (Chin) writes: >John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: >: dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com wrote: >: > If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands of CD-ROM drives >: > are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! >: >: I would recommend getting any of the toshiba, sony or nec drives. >: >: Particularly the toshiba 3401, or 3501...(although I don't love >: the company, their products are nice). The Toshiba 3401 doesn't support CD-Audio under NeXT For Intel. <Other advice deleted> -Russ
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TeXmenu 5.0 where? Date: 13 Oct 1995 21:32:09 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <45mlsp$h1p@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <45l5dg$h91@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) writes: >last week, I got a mail from the author of TexMenu 5.0, Harald Schlangmann. >In his mail, he sais, that TexMenu 5.0 can be found at >ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de >in the directory >/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions >as file >TeXxxxxxxxxxxxx Why didn't you ask Harald instead of posting in here. If I remember right Harald said this version is a beta version not intended for public release. Now it is public... Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Dept. of Computer Science stabl@leo.org University of Munich http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 Germany FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: NS4.0 and 2^31 (2 Giga) bytes file size limit Message-ID: <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:20:55 GMT I post this in order to remind the developer at NeXT to remove this nasty file system size limit. Just use a long long for off_t: off_t lseek(int fd, off_t offset, int whence); From sys/type.h: #ifdef KERNEL typedef u_long off_t; #else typedef long off_t; #endif /* KERNEL */ -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hp laserjet5mp -ppd file? Date: 13 Oct 95 11:30:23 Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept Distribution: world Message-ID: <SMITHW.95Oct13113023@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu> I thought I saw a ppd file for a laserjet 5MP printer on the orst archives or on one of the next newgroups. Now I can't find it! If you know where it is, help! -Bill -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: http@cs.nemostate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mach 64 Video Driver and IBM 16/4 ISA Token Ring Driver conflict resolution?? Date: 13 Oct 1995 20:07:22 GMT Organization: Northeast Missouri State University Message-ID: <45mgtq$18oa@noc.nemostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We need help resolving this conflict: Running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Gateway 2000 P5-90 we've encountered a Rom addressing conflict (a similar conflict is documented by Solaris 2.4 with their Token Ring driver) with the NeXT Token Ring driver (beta version 3.31) and the Mach 64 Video driver (2 Meg). A) We have been able to run the Token Ring driver with an IBM Auto 16/4 ISA Token Ring card 92G3774 (?) using the default VGA video driver. B)We've also been able to configure the token ring card with the s series video driver on an IBM 330 pentium. C)Solaris reports a conflict with the Token Ring plug and play card wanting Rom address CC000 which is already used by some VGA cards (in particular the Mach 64 card). We have as yet been unsuccessfull in 1) forcing the plug and play card to take Rom address D2000 and Ram D4000 as recommended in the similar Solaris 2.4 x86 token ring card faqs from Sun. 2) Moving around the video memory (all 2+ megs of it!) to avoid CC000. Any suggestions? No, we can't use either net instead in the near future!:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Message-ID: <DGEMxE.7oD@BITart.com> Sender: usenet@BITart.com Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <45md87$jfr@news.halcyon.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:44:01 GMT In article <45md87$jfr@news.halcyon.com> Russell Wilcoxon@mail.halcyon.com writes: > The Toshiba 3401 doesn't support CD-Audio under NeXT For Intel. > Just don't let my Toshiba 3401 know that, since so far it plays CD's just nicely under NSfIP. gerti
From: colen@teleport.com (Colen Garoutte-Carson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: [HELP] How do I make my new(used) NeXT work? Date: 13 Oct 1995 21:05:31 GMT Organization: Metrowerks Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <colen-1310951404320001@ip-pdx09-27.teleport.com> Anyone who can help, Please forgive my ignorance. Any help would be _extremely_ appreciated. I've just aquired a Color NeXTstation. When I boot, it says "Testing system...", opens a NeXT ROM monitor 2.4 (v65) window. Testings some more stuff (all the tests pass). Then gives me a "NeXT>" prompt. I figured "b sd" was the only intelligent option at this point. It boots me into unix, in a "NeXT Mach Operating System" window. It tries to set up network access, but fails (it's not connection to one yet). It gives me a "#" prompt, from which I can list files. I can execute basic unix commands. But I can't see to get any programs working. How do I boot into the NeXT OS? How do I get anything to display in color? Why, whenever I try to execute most of the programs, does it just access the HD, then freeze up? How can I make the programs run properly? The person I bought this from said he has tried to install the latest update to the NeXT OS, but wasn't able to get it working properly. I'm not sure what he's done, or at what stage he left off. What software should I have installed to make things work properly? (I'm trapped in a well! PLEASE HELP ME!) Please respond cc responses to my email address, - Colen Garoutte-Carson
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS4.0 and 2^31 (2 Giga) bytes file size limit Date: 14 Oct 1995 00:22:35 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <45mvsb$4th@news.next.com> References: <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> In article <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org writes: > I post this in order to remind the developer at NeXT to remove this nasty > file system size limit. > > Just use a long long for off_t: > > off_t lseek(int fd, off_t offset, int whence); > > From sys/type.h: > > #ifdef KERNEL > typedef u_long off_t; > #else > typedef long off_t; > #endif /* KERNEL */ Gee! Thanks for the helpful hint. I thought supporting larger files would be more complicated than this. (For the technically impaired, the maximum value expressable as an off_t, while marginally relevent, doesn't change the filesystem implementation or the structure of inodes on the disk. That is a considerably larger task, especially if one wants to maintain backward compatability.) Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS4.0 and 2^31 (2 Giga) bytes file size limit Date: 13 Oct 1995 20:40:58 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <45misq$kjv@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org wrote: > I post this in order to remind the developer at NeXT to remove > this nasty file system size limit. > > Just use a long long for off_t: > off_t lseek(int fd, off_t offset, int whence); > From sys/type.h: > #ifdef KERNEL > typedef u_long off_t; > #else > typedef long off_t; > #endif /* KERNEL */ Well, I imagine it's a bit more involved than "just changing" the one definition... But certainly this limit is getting more significant, as people can buy 4-gig disks for under $1,000 now. By the time the next system release (after 4.0) comes out, common disk drives may be so large that NeXTSTEP won't be able to use all of them (not even by splitting one disk into several 2-gig partitions!). So I too hope the 2-gig limit per partition will be gone in NS-4.0. Anyone know if that's planned? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: icardena@dcl-nextsc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS4.0 and 2^31 (2 Giga) bytes file size limit Date: 14 Oct 1995 02:13:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <45n6bg$278@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> <45misq$kjv@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >So I too hope the 2-gig limit per partition will be gone in >NS-4.0. Anyone know if that's planned? When I spoke to technical assistance at 1-800-TRY-NEXT they assured me that there is no longer a 2GB limit. This was in a response to a question specifically stated to include NEXTSTEP 3.3. -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO NeXT System Administrator, CCSO Sites Technical Support "Are they as successful as who,Microsoft? Only drug lords from South America are as successful as Microsoft." -Tim Byars, on the success of NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: root@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 14 Oct 1995 02:29:51 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Message-ID: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hi, I have recently moved to 3.3 on my NeXTdimension Cube and am very happy with it overall, even though the swapfile growing without boundary problem seems to exist, as mentioned. There is one thing I wanted to ask, though: Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps -aux in a shell window I get the following USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console (WindowServer) ... What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my CPU? Any suggestions remedies welcome. Eren Kotan root@darkside.aladdin.co.uk
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Date: 14 Oct 1995 02:56:15 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <45n8sf$3e9@news4.digex.net> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <45c695$nhf@news4.digex.net> <45cbjh$lu9@clarknet.clark.net> <45md87$jfr@news.halcyon.com> Russell Wilcoxon@mail.halcyon.com wrote: > In <45cbjh$lu9@clarknet.clark.net>, chin@clark.net (Chin) writes: > >John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com > >wrote: : > If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands > >of CD-ROM drives : > are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! : : > >I would recommend getting any of the toshiba, sony or nec drives. > >: : Particularly the toshiba 3401, or 3501...(although I don't > >love : the company, their products are nice). > The Toshiba 3401 doesn't support CD-Audio under NeXT For Intel. This is wrong...It certainly does. I'm listening to it right now...on intel hardware. -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: bludvigs@ulrik.uio.no (B|rre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Can't log in as root Date: 14 Oct 1995 09:52:31 GMT Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <45o18v$gcl@hermod.uio.no> Or rather when I've logged in the workspace immediatly quits, declaring "workspace manager error". How in the world to I get around that one? (Barre Ludvigsen - please leave this line in reply for my news reading agent) - Barre
From: idddsb@port.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP, how do you set the correct time in DOS? Date: 12 Oct 1995 22:48:34 GMT Organization: IDD Information Services Message-ID: <IDDDSB.95Oct12184834@port.iddis.com> References: <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> In-reply-to: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL's message of Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:59:48 GMT In article <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes: !In article <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> "Charles C. Hocker" !<american@aztec.asu.edu> writes: !> Hello, !> I am using NS/FIP and would like to set the correct time !> when I boot into DOS. Is there a why that I can have the correct !> time in both NS and DOS with out reseting the clock each time? !> !> Thanks !> !> Charles NS wants the hardware clock set to GMT. Your zone in NS then keys off the H/W GMT clock. Very UNIX. DOS knows nothing of timezones, and uses the H/W clock directly to timestamp files, etc.. You could add a little .BAT file to your AUTOEXEC.BAT which did something like: TIME > time.dat [read time.dat] [manipulate time value to suit your zone] TIME < new_time This is NOT DOS batch language! I have no idea how to actually get the syntax correct. -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 470 Main St Suite 304 Ridgefield CT 06877
From: mjantti@aton.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD:s generate "unexpected kernel page fault" Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 14 Oct 1995 12:47:57 GMT Organization: Abo Akademi University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Oct14144757@aton.abo.fi> When I try to read a CD other than the NeXT User and Developer my system crashes, i.e., it throws plenty of garbage in a small monitor on the screen and will only reboot from the large monitor. I have a non-Turbo NeXTstaion running NS 3.2 and SONY CD-ROM CDU-55S Rev 1.0t. The error message looks something like this unexpected kernel page fault failure trap: type ox410 f fcode rw 3 faultdel 0x0 trap: pc 0x40021e2 sp 0x3ffff0 sr 0x2000 trap: cpu 0 th 0x1017556e0 proc 0x1017ae40 pid 1460 pcb 0x1118d010 traceback: fp 0x1118db48 called from pc 0x040961b6 fp +x1118db5c 4-args 1119a27c 00000000 1118db94 and so on This happens with all kinds of CD:s, the latest one is the Lighthouse Academic CD. I can't imagine the problem is with the CD:s. Any suggestions? -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-0-643 747 (Home/Voice) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office/Voice) 358-0-3489 233 (Home/Fax) | 358-21-2654 677 (Office/Fax)
From: colen@teleport.com (Colen Garoutte-Carson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [HELP] Getting a NeXTstation networked Date: 14 Oct 1995 19:14:16 GMT Organization: Metrowerks Inc. Message-ID: <colen-1410951213130001@ip-pdx10-22.teleport.com> Thanks to those of you who helped me get into the NeXT OS from single user unix. Ultimately, I'd like to use my NeXTstation to connect to a dedicated PPP line, and route for two other computer (2 Macs). I found PPP software for the NeXT, but it's 2 megs, and I can get it over to the NeXT. I've been unable to find any kind of terminal program that will let me use a modem pluged into a serial port. (Does anyone have a terminal program that I can fit on a floppy?). Does anyone know of any good NeXT shareware/freeware sites? I tried running a coaxial cable from the NeXT to a Mac. Do I need resisters or T-connectors on either end? It's just wired directly from one to the other. I set up the TCP/IP software on the Mac to manually assume an address of 1.1.1.2, with a 255.0.0.0 network mask (I've been guessing). With "NetManager", I configured the NeXT to assume the address of 1.1.1.1. I tried all possible settings for router (1.1.1.2, default, and none), broadcast address (1.1.1.2, default, and none), NetMask (255.0.0.0, Default, and automatic). Whenever I boot the NeXT it tells me that either the network is down or I have not yet connected to it. I'm unable to ping 1.1.1.2, nomatter what I try. I tried everything I could with ifconfig, too. What am I missing? How can I make a two machine, point-A-to-point-B IP network with my NeXTstation and my Mac? The most difficult part is yet to come : How do I configure my NeXT to route packets from ethernet to PPP (and vice versa)? What PPP should I use? Thanks in advance, (Please email response) - Colen Garoutte-Carson
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TeXmenu 5.0 where? Date: 14 Oct 1995 13:09:02 -0700 Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona Message-ID: <45p5cu$pl2@ame2.math.arizona.edu> References: <45l5dg$h91@news.sns-felb.debis.de> <45mlsp$h1p@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> The new TeXmenu 5.0 is in ftp.eunet.ch under /pub/next/Text/tex/apps. It is a pre-release version. -Yuwen Cheng yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 15 Oct 1995 02:07:07 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Distribution: world Message-ID: <45pqcb$573@news.vanderbilt.edu> References: <DFzHDA.L2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <45hfk0$2ns@news.iastate.edu> One thing that I don't have is serial problems. I am operateing a 14.4K Modem with PPP and upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3 on black Hardware. (not yet Developer, just User) I don't think that the swapfile behaves differently than in 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2 nor that anything else stopped working. Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: msnyder@next.com (Michael Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 15 Oct 1995 06:20:58 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <45q98a$c1k@news.next.com> References: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Eren Kotan writes > Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps -aux > in a shell window I get the following > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console (WindowServer) > > ... > > What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my CPU? I'm something of a beginner at this, but what I think is going on is that something running on your computer is running into trouble, and frantically writing error messages to "the console". On a NeXT system, "the console" is a file in /tmp called "console.log". The next time this happens, if you do a "ls -l /tmp/console.log", and then immediately do it again, you may find that the file is large AND growing. Pull the file up in Edit or emacs, and try to see what's going on from the error messages, especially near the end of the file.
From: snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr (Dominique SNYERS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 Network problem on an Intel 486 Pro/GX Date: 15 Oct 1995 10:53:34 GMT Organization: ENST de Bretagne, Brest FRANCE Distribution: world Message-ID: <45qp7e$40f@melimelo.enst-bretagne.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have tried upgrading an Intel 486 pro/GX that was running perfectly under 3.2 to 3.3 and it just does not work anymore. The cuplrit, I think is the SMC Elite 16 driver. I got a lot of NFS timout errors indeed. I then changed the read and write buffer size and I was able to access files across the net without timeout. I though that was the end of these problems but when I logged in as a user I was rejected after a while. I then tried to log in after having erased the .Next directory and it worked. I put an application icon on the dock logout and login again and I was rejected again. I am puzzled. Can someone help me on this? Is this a know problem? I have heard of 3.3 patch somewhere, where could I get these. Thanks a lot Dom Snyers -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- LIASC (Laboratoire d'Intelligence Artificielle et Sciences Cognitives) Telecom Bretagne -- BP 832 29285 BREST CEDEX -- FRANCE Tel: (33) 98 00 14 31 Fax: (33) 98 00 10 30
From: lc30@cornell.edu (Lewis Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connection to a POP mail server Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:36:30 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Distribution: none Message-ID: <lc30-1310951036300001@128.253.203.97> References: <45d0es$lgj@panix2.panix.com> If it's of any use, there's an app called PoPOver that does what I think you want. You might be able to find it in the Peanuts ftp site. In article <45d0es$lgj@panix2.panix.com>, vladk@panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) wrote: > Hi, there: > > Since there is no begining and no end to The Maintenance Saga, I have > a couple of questions to ask. > > My internet provider runs a POP mailserver, so I can send email > messages out, but I can't receive it on (or get it forwarded to) my host. > I am using the public domain PPP (alby-ppp) and it works fine. > I've got a turbo black box running under NS 3.0. > > I hope that someone might know about a POP client which works with > NS 3.0 and NeXTMail. Please tell me > where to get one. A public domain version would be OK, but I might be > able to shell couple of bucks and buy one, if necessary. > > I might upgrade to NS 3.3 very soon, so please consider this possibility as > well.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 15 Oct 1995 16:13:17 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <45rbut$700@emerald.oz.net> References: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In article <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> root@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Eren Kotan) writes: > Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps -aux > in a shell window I get the following > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console (WindowServer) > > What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my CPU? One bug that I've noticed occurs after I've selected the name of a file or directory in the File Viewer (just as one would do when changing a file or directory name). If one changes to a different app but leaves the filename selected, after a minute or so, everything slows to a crawl. Merely unselecting the filename restores full speed. I believe I saw this bug in 3.2 black as well, so it's probably not specifically a 3.3 bug. --- Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: pickett@indiana.edu (David Pickett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [HELP] How do I make my new(used) NeXT work? Date: 15 Oct 1995 23:53:29 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Distribution: inet Message-ID: <45s6tp$40@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <colen-1310951404320001@ip-pdx09-27.teleport.com> In article <colen-1310951404320001@ip-pdx09-27.teleport.com> colen@teleport.com (Colen Garoutte-Carson) writes: > (I'm trapped in a well! PLEASE HELP ME!) > It sounds like som eof the system software is not there. You need to borrow a SCSI CD-ROM player and a CD for NS3.2 with its floppy. Then you install the software from the CD rom, and, if the problem is not more severe, the machine will then be OK. Another tack is to try: NeXT>bsd(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd0 from the monitor window. do you have the books? Dont panic. It's possible to get this machine working, even if my advice fails! At least you dont have any of your data on it yet! david -- Dr David A Pickett Director of Recording Arts Indiana University School of Music Bloomington IN 47405 EMAIL PICKETT@BLUMLEIN.MUSIC.INDIANA.EDU
From: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP, how do you set the correct time in DOS? Date: 16 Oct 1995 00:51:54 GMT Organization: The Santa Fe Institute Message-ID: <45saba$ibs@tierra.santafe.edu> References: <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> <IDDDSB.95Oct12184834@port.iddis.com> Dean Banfield (idddsb@port.iddis.com) wrote: : In article <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes: : !In article <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> "Charles C. Hocker" : !<american@aztec.asu.edu> writes: : !> I am using NS/FIP and would like to set the correct time : !> when I boot into DOS. Is there a why that I can have the correct : !> time in both NS and DOS with out reseting the clock each time? : NS wants the hardware clock set to GMT. Your zone in NS then keys off : the H/W GMT clock. Very UNIX. DOS knows nothing of timezones, and : uses the H/W clock directly to timestamp files, etc.. : You could add a little .BAT file to your AUTOEXEC.BAT which did : something like: : TIME > time.dat : [read time.dat] : [manipulate time value to suit your zone] : TIME < new_time This sort of thing didn't work for me, since I then had to fix the time when I returned to NeXTStep. Simpler is to just set the time zone to GMT (put the cursor on London, UK) and live with the problems of not being in the correct time zone. (I wonder what's gonna happen when we go back to RMST?) Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: vladk@tanuki.panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fax application for NS Turbo/NS 3.0/BOCA 28.8 Date: 16 Oct 1995 07:06:41 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <45t0a1$nij@news1.panix.com> References: <45kusi$poc@news1.panix.com> In article <45kusi$poc@news1.panix.com> vladk@tanuki.panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) writes: > 1) Does anybody know about a FAX application available for NeXT Turbo > running under NS 3.0? I have a Boca 28.8 faxmodem (fax class 2 > compatible). > > I've heard that Black&White software has a such product, but I couldn't > figure out the name and whether it is compatible with the above > configuration (apparently, they don't have a web page). If someone knows > about a decent public domain program, it would not hurt either. > > 2) What is the deal with the FaxReader available on the system? It seems > that it can only display/forward a received fax. I tried to configure the > fax using PrintManager, but it doesn't seem to be working. Every time I > get mail over PPP link I also get a message that a fax has arrived. How > to configure the program correctly so I can use it? > > Plz help. ===================================================================== I've had some problems with my mail service in the last couple of days. If you've replied to my question(s), plese resend your answers once again, so I get them this time. Thank you for your help. Vlad. =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: aslater@jocko.bri.hp.com (Al Slater) Subject: NeXT turbo slab misbehaving :( Summary: SCSI timeouts on boot disk Sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User) Message-ID: <DGJ6IK.Mry@bri.hp.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 07:37:32 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Keywords: SCSI timeout NS3 slab black Hi folks, (dunno if an earlier attempt at posting got through or not, so apologies if people get this twice) Ive recently acquired a black turbo slab with ns3.0 and an external cd. It behaves fine on bootup, and lets you login to the workspace okay, however on firing up a terminal window and trying to compile, it gets so far and then wedges the machine totally (spinning disc, zero feedback from anything else). Wondering why it was doing this, I fired it up single user to see what was afoot, and then it became apparent---scsi timeout messages started appearing as soon as I tried to do same - i.e compile some odds and ends. My thoughts so far are: 1. The disk is stuffed, get a new one. (I think its an original seagate 250meg job) 2. The SCSI controller is stuffed - get a new motherboard / whatever. [Im not inclined to believe this one, it installs NS3.0 okay to the HD, boots okay off the external CD, etc.] 3. Something else. I'd be very grateful for any suggestions anyone has as this is making my slab more like a boat anchor than a workstation :-| cheers, al
From: ayis@esg.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Can't log in as root Date: 16 Oct 1995 09:15:50 GMT Organization: University of Delaware Message-ID: <45t7s6$mg4@news.udel.edu> References: <45o18v$gcl@hermod.uio.no> bludvigs@ulrik.uio.no (B|rre Ludvigsen) wrote: > Or rather when I've logged in the workspace immediately quits, declaring > "workspace manager error". How in the world to I get around that one? > (Barre Ludvigsen - please leave this line in reply for my news reading agent) > - Barre This may be a sign that your configuration files in .NeXT are corrupt. (I am assuming that this error is not a result of the WorkSpace Manager being corrupt.) To set the files in .NeXT to a pristine state do the following: 1) At the log in window type in console, then log in as root (or just su). 2) Backup the /.NeXT directory then copy the files from the default template in /usr/template/user/.NeXT to / 3) Try logging in as root. I hope this helps. -Ayis //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Ayis Theseas Pyrros E-Mail: ayis@esg.com NeXT Mail and MIME Welcomed \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
From: ts110@jay.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Date: 16 Oct 1995 10:47:35 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Distribution: world Message-ID: <45td87$jfa@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NextStation TurboColor. I have tried installing Virtuoso 2.0 demo on it. Since it is a MAB, I needed to remove the i386 architecture from it in order for it to run under NS 3.0. I used Darcy Brockbank's qlipo 1.1 in order to do this. It all goes through happily, except that qlipo does not seem to be able to cope with binaries which are smaller than 8192 bytes in size. Can anyone suggest an alternative tool for thinning MAB files which will run under NextStep 3.0? Thank you very much. Tomaz Slivnik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: gery@ares.fdn.org(Gery_Divry) Subject: CD Writing Message-ID: <1995Oct16.150336.9386@ares.fdn.org> Sender: news@ares.fdn.org Organization: ARES - Lyon, France. Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:03:36 GMT hello is there any way to use the Sony CDU-920S CD engravor under Nextstep ??? Gery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Solution to bootup hanging on network connection Message-ID: <DGK912.7yJ@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:29:26 GMT Thanks to Mike Paquette, I solved the problem I was having with both a NeXT Dimension System running NS3.3 and a NeXTstation Color running NS3.0. The problem in each case was that although neither computer was hooked up to a network, both systems would hang during bootup awaiting a network connection. The solution: Execute /NextAdmin/SimpleNetworkStarter.app. In Box 1, select "Use the network, but don't share administrative data". In Box 2, enter a hostname and a plausible IP address. In Box 3, none of the entries should be checked. Press the 'Configure' button, and keep your fingers crossed... Once configured, you can double-check things by looking at the contents of /etc/hostconfig: HOSTNAME=myhost INETADDR=131.253.253.1 ROUTER=-ROUTED- IPNETMASK=255.255.255.0 IPBROADCAST= YPDOMAIN=-NO- NETMASTER=-YES- That 'NETMASTER=-YES-" is what will keep your system from hanging on startup. This should result in a configuration in which your machine is master of it's own NetInfo domain. If the machine is on a network, and you gave it a valid IP address, you'll also be able to telnet, ftp, rlogin, etc. Note that after doing the SimpleNetworkStarter procedure, you will likely have to modify /etc/hostconfig by setting NETMASTER=-YES-. Also the internet address value supplied by default -- Box 2 above -- will have to be changed. Since you really don't care what its value is, the above value for INETADDR works just fine. Its value should be entered while in the SimpleNetworkStarter.app. Again, thanks to Mike Paquette and I am reasonably sure I am not the only one who has encountered this problem. Good Luck, Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: akira@interaccess.com (Doug McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hp laserjet5mp -ppd file? Date: 16 Oct 1995 21:13:47 GMT Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <45uhub$qi6@nntp.interaccess.com> On 10/13/95, Dr. William V. Smith wrote: >I thought I saw a ppd file for a laserjet 5MP printer on the >orst archives or on one of the next newgroups. Now I can't >find it! If you know where it is, help! I would also like to know where such a beast is. I checked out both Adobe and HP sites and couldn't find a PPD file anywhere for it. The HP 4MP PPD works okay, but definitely doesn't offer the options that should be available on the 5MP. -d
From: ahorvath@deltanet.com (Andrew Horvath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Quality Electronic Manual Writing Date: 16 Oct 1995 23:52:37 GMT Organization: American Business Solutions Message-ID: <45ur85$jl1@news1.deltanet.com> EPUBLISHER: your manual writer Advanced Control Data introduces EPUBLISHER, your electronic manual writer for Windows. The idea: EPUBLISHER, a professional editor/drawer/painter program for Windows (like CorelDRAW,Pagemaker, Ventura Publisher, QuarkXPRESS), allows you to create documents with fonts, drawings, colors, but unlike conventional desktop publishing packages, Epublisher generates a very special output: a very short ASCII command set. The length of a full color screen is less than 1000 Bytes, so a full 1000 screen size manual with jumps, graphics, and fonts is less than 1MByte. On the client side, (WWW browsers, or your program manual on disk, etc.) users use a free viewer, EPUBVIEW, to execute the commands generated by EPUBLISHER. In programming terms: EPUBVIEW is a graphical interpreter. This unique technology allows you to generate many documents with full desktop publishing features and allows you to send them over the wires within seconds or if you write a manual, it occupies only a few kilobytes on your floppy disk that you distribute. The screen oriented output offers you new features: * inserting buttons and icons into your document where readers can click and jump,just like in an online service Your manual is practically a small BBS engine on a floppy disk. * using colors for coding text in your document is a new feature that has just been introduced and that has never been possible before. Example for color coding: you can build up your document in red color for main text, blue for comments to go along with the document, and green for headings and titles. users can extract text of any color from your document and save it in a new file. Please visit our WWW site for more information: http://www.restonline.com/acd/info.html Information specific to manual-writing: http://www.restonline.com/acd/epbmanl.html Sincerely: Laslo Chaki Advanced Control Data Voice: (714)8379659 EMAIL: lchaki@deltanet.com PS: We introduced EPUBLISHER for the NET a couple days ago. Here are a couple of EMAIL we received: From: an America Online engineer Hi, Laslo: I just took a look at your Web site . . . very interesting! Your best next step to be considered.... Thanks, From: a print publisher consultant Hi Laslo, I think you are on the right track. My company works with many print publishers who want to move to web publishing. Good luck,
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Answer to: NS/FIP, how do you set the correct time in DOS? Date: 16 Oct 1995 20:42:39 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <45uu5v$ei@papoose.quick.com> References: <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> <IDDDSB.95Oct12184834@port.iddis.com> <45saba$ibs@tierra.santafe.edu> In article <45saba$ibs@tierra.santafe.edu>, Dick Silbar <silbar@beep.roadrunner.com> wrote: >Dean Banfield (idddsb@port.iddis.com) wrote: >: In article <DG2xFo.M8@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes: > >: !In article <4529r2$3qh@news.internetmci.com> "Charles C. Hocker" >: !<american@aztec.asu.edu> writes: >: !> I am using NS/FIP and would like to set the correct time >: !> when I boot into DOS. Is there a why that I can have the correct >: !> time in both NS and DOS with out reseting the clock each time? >: NS wants the hardware clock set to GMT. Your zone in NS then keys off >: the H/W GMT clock. Very UNIX. DOS knows nothing of timezones, and >: uses the H/W clock directly to timestamp files, etc.. > >: You could add a little .BAT file to your AUTOEXEC.BAT which did >: something like: > >: TIME > time.dat >: [read time.dat] >: [manipulate time value to suit your zone] >: TIME < new_time > >This sort of thing didn't work for me, since I then had to fix the time >when I returned to NeXTStep. Simpler is to just set the time zone to >GMT (put the cursor on London, UK) and live with the problems of not >being in the correct time zone. (I wonder what's gonna happen when we >go back to RMST?) > > Dick Silbar > WhistleSoft, Inc. I'm home sick today and thought about this problem between naps. I think I've come up with a workable solution. I implemented it and tried it out several times. It seems to work as I anticipated but I am unable to test it more thoroughly because of my exceptionally good system hygiene - none of my computers have ever been exposed to the dreaded DOS/Windows family of viruses 8^) Here's the way it works. 1. Intercept the calls to reboot and halt by replacing these executables with a proxy. The proxy first resets the time to what it would be if you were in the GMT time-zone. Then it execs the real reboot or halt. 2. On the way back up, an additional rc script invokes a routine to undo the clock munging that was done at shutdown time. This rc script can be called by either /etc/rc or /etc/rc.local. It works from both locations, but I prefer the call from /etc/rc so that all daemons start knowing the right time, and the syslog entries make more immediate visual sense. 3. The code uses a file to store the offset which was added at shutdown to prevent strangeness in the event the time rules change in between shutdown and reboot. e.g. the system is shutdown in EST and next booted to NS in EDT (the day that daylight savings time took effect). It also prevents the user from inadvertently running the code too many times. The time shifting appears to occur gracefully for all normal shutdown paths. The power off button on the Workspace quit panel, the reboot, and power down buttons on the login panel. The reboot(8), shutdown(8) and halt(8) executables. The only vector I have found that does not shift the time on the way down are the halt and reboot options in the monitor window (Cmd-NumLock). If you are forced to resort to the monitor to shut down, you are more likely to boot back to NS to recover than you are to boot into DOS anyway. Important safety note: Because reboot(8) and halt(8) are such critical elements - especially when you already have other system problems - I have taken care to avoid changing the time or mucking with the file system whenever key options are given to the halt or reboot proxies. In particular, the '-n' no sync, and '-q' quick, options both cause the proxies to omit the time syncing steps. They will, however, emit a message stating why they did not do the expected work. I would like some volunteers who will be reachable via email during the day tomorrow (I'm on the East Coast) and who have time to try it out for a few boots and provide feedback. Once a few people have verified that it does what they need and provide feedback on the code, README, etc., I will post the sources to orst. Any volunteers? -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.alt.sources.next Subject: English <-> German dictionary for NeXTSTep Date: 17 Oct 1995 08:34:11 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <45vpq3$57f@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I'm looking for a good English <-> German dictionary for NeXTStep (quad-FAT) which can be used in a network by multiple users. Does there exist a (commercial) versison, perhaps of Langenscheidt? If someone of you knows anything, please let me know... Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
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From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT-Library to control SCSI-scanner Date: 17 Oct 1995 09:43:23 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <45vtrr$5dg@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, i was wondering if there exists a NeXT-LLibrary which offers control over a scanner connected to the scsi-bus of a NeXT-Workstation... The idea behind this is, that I want to scan an image within a self-made program and I don't want to start the scanner-software every time... Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: e9026293 <e9026293@stud1.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with secondary cache Date: 17 Oct 1995 10:52:43 GMT Organization: EDV-Zentrum, TU-Wien Message-ID: <4601tr$8ks@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody I'm running NS 3.3 on a 486 Intel machine and have the following problem. If I enable the secondary cache in the Setup, the system breaks down some time after starting. If I disable the cache, the system is absolute stable. Does anyone know the problem ? Thank you for your advice Wolfgang
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.alt.sources.next Subject: Re: English <-> German dictionary for NeXTSTep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.alt.sources.next Date: 17 Oct 1995 12:53:23 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <460903$p7t@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <45vpq3$57f@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ralf Specht (specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com) wrote: : Hi all, : I'm looking for a good English <-> German dictionary for NeXTStep : (quad-FAT) which can be used in a network by multiple users. : Does there exist a (commercial) versison, perhaps of Langenscheidt? A company called Tools GmbH, located in Bonn, sells a programm called PaperOut. PaperOut is an ElectronicBook reader. EBs are CD-single sized CD-ROMs originally designed for use with those walkman- sized EB-readers. The dictionaries English/German are available as EBs from Langenscheidt. Demonstration version of PaperOut is available at: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/demos/PaperOut.2.0.NI.b.tar.gz It works. Standard disclaimers apply. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 17 Oct 1995 14:08:08 GMT Organization: Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <460dc8$54j@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> References: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <45q98a$c1k@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit msnyder@next.com (Michael Snyder) wrote: >Eren Kotan writes >> Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps >-aux >> in a shell window I get the following >> >> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND >> root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console >> What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my >CPU? > >I'm something of a beginner at this, but what I think is going on is >that something running on your computer is running into trouble, and >frantically writing error messages to "the console". On a NeXT system, >"the console" is a file in /tmp called "console.log"... To be exact, Console is just a terminal window which does a 'tail -f' on /tmp/console.log. And, in 3.2, I did observe the behaviour sketched above (console eating half my CPU time), and no, the console.log was not large nor growing at a large rate. This reminded my of good ol' SunOS cmdtool, which would get in a fight with my tcsh over a character and lock up the screen. I suspect some runaway reaction like that, but just got into the habit of looking into /tmp/console.log manually... ANy non-tcsh users seen the same behaviour? -- G.J. van Oldenborgh, Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics Leiden University gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl http://rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl/gj/gj.html
Date: 17 Oct 1995 13:34:57 GMT From: software@infobahnos.com (sylvain sauve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.45vs93$38t@news.infobahnos.com> Control: cancel <45vs93$38t@news.infobahnos.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <45vs93$38t@news.infobahnos.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19951017.14 for further details
Date: 17 Oct 1995 12:54:46 GMT From: ahorvath@deltanet.com (Andrew Horvath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <cancel.45ur85$jl1@news1.deltanet.com> Control: cancel <45ur85$jl1@news1.deltanet.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <45ur85$jl1@news1.deltanet.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19951017.07 for further details
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I get NS 3.3 for black? Date: 17 Oct 1995 17:47:58 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <460q8e$lho@news.iastate.edu> References: <DGC4DC.7qI@news.research.ptt.nl> Arnaud Leene writes > tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) wrote: > > > >> I'm sticking with 3.2 for now. > >> > >I would second that. We put 3.3 on a few of the black machines here and > >had lots of little problems with them. End-ed up "downgrading" a couple of > >them back to 3.2, which is much more satisfactory. There are some nice > >add-ons in 3.3, particularly the MIME compatible Mail.app, but that app > >works under 3.2, so if you have 3.2 and 3.3, just stay with 3.2 and drag > >the 3.3 Mail.app over > > What about EOF. More and more apps require it (OmniWeb 2.0). That is a > good reason to move to NS3.3 I agree with this, but consider EOF to be something to "migrate" to over time.... right now I don't desperately need it for any of the Apps I run, and am hoping we can go to 3.3 and get EOF at about the same time NeXT releases the 3.3 "patch" they're working. Probably sometime around the turn of the year, from the information given in a parallel thread. Hope this helps --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov Associate Project Manager:
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 17 Oct 1995 17:09:16 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <46161s$2ro@papoose.quick.com> References: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <45q98a$c1k@news.next.com> In article <45q98a$c1k@news.next.com>, Michael Snyder <msnyder@next.com> wrote: >Eren Kotan writes >> Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps >-aux >> in a shell window I get the following >> >> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND >> root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console >(WindowServer) >> >> ... >> >> What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my >CPU? > >I'm something of a beginner at this, but what I think is going on is >that something running on your computer is running into trouble, and >frantically writing error messages to "the console". On a NeXT system, (munch) This is not correct. The console is historically the primary ascii terminal or display of a unix host. When you are running a GUI on a graphical console, the messages directed to the console device must therefor be put somewhere else, thus the file in /tmp/. The console thread of the WindowServer task is the thread responsible for doing the rendering to the main graphics display (or console). Whenever an application is trying to display something in a window the console thread gets in the loop. So, the manic 'console' eating up half of your CPU usually reflects that some other process or processes are currently trying to render a large graphic, or are sending output quickly to text window that is scrolling, etc. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: vladk@panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,panix.ppp-slip.general Subject: How to set "From:" field in NS Mail? Date: 17 Oct 1995 13:03:35 -0400 Organization: Panix Distribution: usa Message-ID: <460nl7$de5@panix2.panix.com> I'm running a standalone Next box. My PPP provider (panix.com) does not allow me to run a server on my side, so I'm using PopOver to retreive mail messages from the POP server. Mail application on my NeXT always picks up my local host name and stuffs it into "From" field so my mail address comes out as vladk@tanuki (not vladk@panix.com) in all outgoing messages. This causes returned messages to be lost. I've set 'Reply-to' field to my real mail address, which takes care of the replies. Apparently, there is no appropriate variable I can set in .mailrc so my "From" (or "Errors-to") field is set to vladk@panix.com instead vladk@tanuki. I am sure that there is someone out there who knows how to deal with this problem. Thanks, Vlad. P.S. (only for comp.next groups) I have not received any mail regarding the article "Fax application for NS Turbo/NS 3.0/BOCA 28.8" PArt II. If you know the answer, please share it with me.
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,panix.ppp-slip.general Subject: Re: How to set "From:" field in NS Mail? Date: 17 Oct 1995 23:11:49 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-f-71.usc.edu Message-ID: <461d7l$gnk@usc.edu> References: <460nl7$de5@panix2.panix.com> vladk@panix.com (Vladimir Knajtner) wrote: > Mail application on my NeXT always picks up my local host name and stuffs it into "From" field so my mail address comes out as vladk@tanuki (not vladk@panix.com) in all outgoing messages. If you upgrade to sendmail 8.6.12 or higher you can configure it to MAQUERADE with the proper domain. It's that simple. --- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion." -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Attention Iowa State U. NeXT users!! Date: 18 Oct 1995 02:48:53 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <461pul$2ss@news.iastate.edu> http://helser18.res.iastate.edu/isunug.html Nuff said. -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * http://www.public.iastate.edu/~sela * ****************************************************************
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another bug in NS3.3 black? Date: 18 Oct 1995 08:17:05 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <462d61$d8h@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <45n7av$al@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <45q98a$c1k@news.next.com> <460dc8$54j@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Geert Jan van Oldenborgh (gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl) wrote: : msnyder@next.com (Michael Snyder) wrote: : >Eren Kotan writes : >> Sometimes I notice the machine gets very very slow. If I then type a ps : >-aux : >> in a shell window I get the following : >> : >> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND : >> root 224 42.5 8.7 21.8M 2.43M ? R 22:35 - console : >> What's going on, what is this manic console that is eating up half my : >CPU? : > [...] : To be exact, Console is just a terminal window which does a 'tail -f' on : /tmp/console.log. That does not seem to be true. I'm starting up a tail -f /tmp/console.log on startup of Terminal.app because Workspace Manager's console eats up so much CPU when lots of messages are arriving. A tail -f works very fast and economically :-) Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Edwin Cikan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,panix.ppp-slip.general Subject: Re: How to set "From:" field in NS Mail? Date: 18 Oct 1995 09:21:43 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Distribution: usa Message-ID: <462gv7$1s2g@ftp.univie.ac.at> References: <460nl7$de5@panix2.panix.com> In <460nl7$de5@panix2.panix.com> Vladimir Knajtner wrote: > > I'm running a standalone Next box. My PPP provider (panix.com) does not > allow me to run a server on my side, so I'm using PopOver to retreive > mail messages from the POP server. > > Mail application on my NeXT always picks up my local host name and stuffs > it into "From" field so my mail address comes out as vladk@tanuki (not > vladk@panix.com) in all outgoing messages. This causes returned messages > to be lost. > > I've set 'Reply-to' field to my real mail address, which takes care of > the replies. > > Apparently, there is no appropriate variable I can set in .mailrc so my > "From" (or "Errors-to") field is set to vladk@panix.com instead vladk@tanuki. > > > I am sure that there is someone out there who knows how to deal with > this problem. > Yes. 1. Is your PPP provider offering DNS? If yes, then create a file /etc/resolv.conf: domain panix.com namserver IP-Number of the name server of your PPP provider 2. Get bsd sendmail (there is a NeXT ready to install package in the NeXT Archives). Here is the example of the Configurationfile before compiled with m4 (Copyright deleted): ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- divert(-1) VERSIONID(`@(#)clientproto.mc 8.6 (Berkeley) 8/16/95') OSTYPE(nextstep) FEATURE(nullclient, mailhost.$m) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Of course, mailhost must be an alias to the mailserver of your provider (add this host with hostmanager). Here are the relevant parts of the resulting file after compiling with m4: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ##### @(#)cfhead.m4 8.3 (Berkeley) 9/15/95 ##### ##### @(#)cf.m4 8.24 (Berkeley) 8/16/95 ##### ##### @(#)nextstep.m4 8.4 (Berkeley) 11/30/93 ##### ##### @(#)proto.m4 8.96 (Berkeley) 10/1/95 ##### # level 6 config file format V6/Berkeley ################## # local info # ################## Cwlocalhost # my official domain name # ... this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain #Dj$w.Foo.COM # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DMmailhost.$m <----- this line has to be changed to DM$m!!!! # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON # hub host (to which all mail is sent) DHmailhost.$m # route-addr separators C: : , # Configuration version number DZ8.7.1 ############### # Options # ############### ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- This file should be put as sendmail.cf in /etc/mail/sendmail. But this solution works only with DNS. Without DNS I did not try it; but I guess you have to uncomment the line Dj and change it to: Djpanix.com And comment out the line DM and change the line DHmailhost.$m to DHmailhost. But as I did not try it without DNS I am not sure if it works. But I think witch the documentations included in the sendmail package there should be possibility to find out. Regards, Edwin. -- Edwin CIKAN Systems Manager University of Vienna Department of Software Technology and Parallel Systems Liechtensteinstrasse 22 A-1090 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE) e-mail: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Internet) Tel.: +43 1 3105608-84 Fax: +43 1 3105608-88
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [HELP] Getting a NeXTstation networked Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 18 Oct 1995 11:38:22 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <462ove$ric@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <colen-1410951213130001@ip-pdx10-22.teleport.com> Colen Garoutte-Carson (colen@teleport.com) wrote: : Ultimately, I'd like to use my NeXTstation to connect to a dedicated : PPP line, and route for two other computer (2 Macs). I found PPP software : for the NeXT, but it's 2 megs, and I can get it over to the NeXT. I've : been unable to find any kind of terminal program that will let me use a : modem pluged into a serial port. (Does anyone have a terminal program : that I can fit on a floppy?). I suggest you use kermit. It's available from ftp.cs.orst.edu and it is app. 300k large, so it will fit on any floppy. Willem
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Services Menu disappeared Date: 18 Oct 1995 10:57:06 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <462mi2$9hd@news.ust.hk> Hello, I am currently using NS 3.0 on NeXT machine. I find out that the services menu is disappeared sometimes. Why this happens ??? Thanks waiming -- "Stupid people do stupid things" Forrest Gump So... please forgive me if I do stupid things :) waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: marc@ecu.unice.fr (Marc Monticelli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BlackJava crypted Date: 18 Oct 1995 14:33:48 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <46338c$ape@malibu.unice.fr> Hi, I found BlackJava on an European ftp Site. The file is crypted. Do you know how obtain the key ?
From: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Configureable proxy server Date: 18 Oct 1995 14:58:50 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <4634na$alq@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I'm looking for a proxy server which mapps requests from a specific tcp-port to another port. What I want to do, is to set up an internet service proxy server which offers some internet services by translation of incoming tcp-port number to the defined outgoing tcp port number. For the target-machine, things should look like the proxy-host is requesting a specific service (on the specific port). Does there exist something which does exactly this? Thanks for your help... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics) Subject: Sound problems Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <DGKoAM.IvG@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:59:09 GMT Organization: Washington State University I hope someone can solve an annoying problem. I've lost control of the sound preferences in my NeXTStep Intel. I can bring up the Sound Preferences panel but all the sounds are grey and none of the controls respond to mouse clicks. Any ideas? Wayne
From: igerard@ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BlackJava crypted Date: 18 Oct 1995 14:39:57 GMT Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France Message-ID: <4633jt$m7k@wolfy.ina.fr> References: <46338c$ape@malibu.unice.fr> In <46338c$ape@malibu.unice.fr> Marc Monticelli wrote: > Hi, > I found BlackJava on an European ftp Site. > The file is crypted. Do you know how obtain the key ? > > see the README whom say that we must register to SUN. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerard Iglesias, Email : igerard@ina.fr Computer Graphics researcher computer aided cartoon design --- --- NeXT-mail welcome --- realize a CAC on SGI platform but wait to move under NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP on SGI !!!!!!!!!!!! --- --- INA-Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Phone (33) (1) 49832930 94366 Bry sur Marne Cedex, France Fax (33) (1) 49832582 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: colinj@ren.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NeXT User Group info for sought for Albuquerque NM Date: 18 Oct 1995 14:57:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Message-ID: <4634k1$fsg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I'm headed southwest soon and I would like to find a NeXT user group in the Albuquerque NM area. Does such an animal exist? -- Colin Eric Johnson | "check OUT the Big Brain on Brad" colinj@umich.edu | -Jules, _Pulp_Fiction_ | http://www.itd.umich.edu/~colinj
From: Ron Wood <ron> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [HELP] Getting a NeXTstation networked Date: 18 Oct 1995 16:31:58 GMT Organization: CE-CERT Message-ID: <463a5u$q48@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <colen-1410951213130001@ip-pdx10-22.teleport.com> <462ove$ric@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I suggest you use kermit. It's available from ftp.cs.orst.edu and it >is app. 300k large, so it will fit on any floppy. > >Willem > tip and cu are also good tools, and are probably already on your system. If you do a 'man tip' or a 'man cu' you can get the instructions on how to use them. Especially on how to use them to download a file from a remote unix host. A 'man zs' will give you all the instructions on how to set up the modem and wire the modem cable. -- Ron Wood, Systems Administrator CE-CERT, UCR
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Converting TrueType Fonts? Date: 18 Oct 1995 16:24:28 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <4639ns$73q@masala.cc.uh.edu> Does anyone know of an utility that will convert Windows TrueType fonts to Type 1 PostScript Fonts? We have a CD with 1000 fonts that we are site licensed for and we want to make them usable on NEXTSTEP...... Any ideas? PD Software preferred, any software will do.... Thanks. -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * <URL:http://www.egr.uh.edu/~sears/> Engineering Computing Center * SSI Diving Certification #755020059 NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime." ******* I do not represent the University of Houston *********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: NS4.0 and 2^31 (2 Giga) bytes file size limit Message-ID: <1995Oct18.112510.806@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: news@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <1995Oct13.182055.3985@free.fdn.org> <45misq$kjv@usenet.rpi.edu> <45n6bg$278@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 11:25:10 GMT icardena@dcl-nextsc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) wrote: > Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > >So I too hope the 2-gig limit per partition will be gone in > >NS-4.0. Anyone know if that's planned? > When I spoke to technical assistance at 1-800-TRY-NEXT they assured me that there is no longer a 2GB limit. This was in a response to a question specifically stated to include NEXTSTEP 3.3. That's correct. NS4 based on BSD 4.4 and support bigger partitions that 2GB. Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: jeffh@jerusalem.FirePower.COM. (Jeff Hirschman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MOO or MUD client for NS Date: 18 Oct 1995 21:16:09 GMT Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM> Is anyone aware of a MOO or MUD client that runs under NeXTSTEP? Thanks, Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------- "... there's nothing wrong with looking at the past, as long as you don't stare." -- David Roth, "Digging Through My Closet" Jeff Hirschman jeffh@FirePower.com
From: borrel@mashallah.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newer version of Pine? Date: 18 Oct 1995 21:56:35 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Sender: borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Message-ID: <463t6j$g30@hod.hiof.no> Has anyone managed to compile a newer version of Pine than the 1993 3.0.7 version? - Barre -- Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/ludvigsen/ finger: borrel@mashallah.ludvigsen.hiof.no
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Date: 18 Oct 1995 22:33:31 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Distribution: world Message-ID: <463vbr$ip@news.vanderbilt.edu> References: <45td87$jfa@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Tomaz Slivnik (ts110@jay.pmms.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : I am running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NextStation TurboColor. I have tried : installing Virtuoso 2.0 demo on it. Since it is a MAB, I needed to remove : the i386 architecture from it in order for it to run under NS 3.0. : I used Darcy Brockbank's qlipo 1.1 in order to do this. It all goes : through happily, except that qlipo does not seem to be able to cope with : binaries which are smaller than 8192 bytes in size. : Can anyone suggest an alternative tool for thinning MAB files which will : run under NextStep 3.0? : Thank you very much. : Tomaz Slivnik take a look at the manpage of lipo man lipo Option -thin Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DGoGv5.9r1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 04:09:04 GMT References: <45td87$jfa@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <463vbr$ip@news.vanderbilt.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <463vbr$ip@news.vanderbilt.edu>, Thomas Katzlberger <katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> wrote: >Tomaz Slivnik (ts110@jay.pmms.cam.ac.uk) wrote: >: I am running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NextStation TurboColor. I have tried >: installing Virtuoso 2.0 demo on it. Since it is a MAB, I needed to remove >: the i386 architecture from it in order for it to run under NS 3.0. >: I used Darcy Brockbank's qlipo 1.1 in order to do this. It all goes >: through happily, except that qlipo does not seem to be able to cope with >: binaries which are smaller than 8192 bytes in size. > >: Can anyone suggest an alternative tool for thinning MAB files which will >: run under NextStep 3.0? > >: Thank you very much. > >: Tomaz Slivnik > >take a look at the manpage of lipo > >man lipo > >Option -thin > Ummmm...except that 3.0 doesn't have lipo. Does 3.0's segedit grok MAB files? If so, you could load in some bogus padding segments to increase the executable size. Goofie, but it might work. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: L&N England <bizgrow3@bufnet.net> Newsgroups: seattle.forsale.computers,,stl.forsale,,tx.forsale,,utah.forsale,,misc.forsale.computers,,rec.photo.advanced,,rec.crafts.winemaking,,rec.arts.fine,,comp.sys.sgi.misc,,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,,comp.sys.mac.systems,,comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,,comp.sys.mac.portables,,comp.sys.mac.graphics,,comp.sys.mac,,comp.multimedia,,comp.sys.next.misc,,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Subject: " Fantastic" Color Separation Software for Mac User's Date: 19 Oct 1995 04:46:47 GMT Organization: Business Growth Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <464l7n$b1t@buffnet2.buffnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: World,Wide,Mac,User's > > Until today, creating high quality, print ready CMYK images from RGB sources > has been a risky venture on the desk top. Separations made with Photoshop, > Live Picture, etc. are often a big disappointment. Worse still the high-end > alternative to custom separations is costly and takes the creative control > away from you, the designer, the photographer, the artist or other graphics > and imaging professional with ultimate responsibilty for the result. > Finally, there is a better way! Thanks to a dramatic color science > breakthrough, Magic Software Company's unique, new "max i2 Technology", you > can maximize your image impact. Magic Separator gives you beautiful, > custom quality results with no effort, every time! > Magic Separator carefully analyzes your image and recommends the best > possible RGB to CMYK Transformation. Whatever your source material, Magic > Separator will make a separation which maximizes the overall fidelity, > impact, and colorfulness of your project. > At last, thanks to Magic Separator's unique preview image, you can > reliably match your printed results with what you see on the screen, > whatever the source of the image. Magic Separator allows you all the > flexibility and tuning you desire. > ** For more information, please email me. ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ------- Lisa A. England > Business Growth Partners, Inc. > > bizgrow3@buffnet.net > 716-693-2000 ext.14 > > > > > > > > > > > > \ / > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------- > >
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From: Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.alt.sources.next Subject: Re: English <-> German dictionary for NeXTSTep Date: 18 Oct 1995 23:17:53 GMT Organization: TeDoc, Munich, Germany Message-ID: <4641v1$b3@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <45vpq3$57f@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com (Ralf Specht) wrote: > Hi all, > I'm looking for a good English <-> German dictionary for NeXTStep (quad-FAT) which can be used in a network by multiple users. > Does there exist a (commercial) versison, perhaps of Langenscheidt? > If someone of you knows anything, please let me know... > Thanks... > ...Ralf > Ralf Specht > Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm > Department of Text Understanding Systems > P.O. Box 23 60 > 89013 Ulm, Germany > e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM > phone: +49 731 505-2356 > fax: +49 731 505-4113 Hallo Ralf, na, als commerzielle Loesung bietet sich PaperOut an. Damit kann man Sony DataDiscs lesen. Das Problem ist nur, dass Sony das Format glaube ich aufgegeben hat. Aber das Programm laeuft wunderbar. Wir haben hier Englisch, Spanisch, Franzoesisch und viele andere DataDiscs, die man sogar komprimiert auf Festplatte ueberspielen kann. so long Dominik -- Dominik --- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" _____________________________________Willi, the painter Munich, Germany (NOT :-)
From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newer version of Pine? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 19 Oct 1995 15:16:08 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <465q3o$svi@moe.cc.emory.edu> References: <463t6j$g30@hod.hiof.no> Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@mashallah.NoSubdomain.NoDomain) wrote: : Has anyone managed to compile a newer version of Pine than the 1993 3.0.7 version? : - Barre Pine 3.91 copiled out of package with 3.3 Dev. I got the source from Linux archive site. Good luck! -- Satoru Uzawa, suzawa@unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: CD Writing Message-ID: <1995Oct19.115655.5766@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France References: <1995Oct16.150336.9386@ares.fdn.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:56:55 GMT gery@ares.fdn.org(Gery_Divry) wrote: > hello is there any way to use the Sony CDU-920S CD engravor > under Nextstep ??? > Gery I am working on a ISO9660 Rockridge port for the CDU-920S on NS. Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
Control: cancel <DGpE9o.E4M@trapac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: cmsg cancel <DGpE9o.E4M@trapac.com> Message-ID: <DGpELw.EAz@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <46338c$ape@malibu.unice.fr> <DGpE9o.E4M@trapac.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:17:56 GMT This message was cancelled from within rn. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Message-ID: <331D863001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 19 Oct 95 09:41:00 EDT You might try MetroSuction.app: ftp://pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/frontends/MetroSuction.1.0.NI.b.tar.gz If you can use qlipo to make it moto-only. I'm not sure if MetroSuction is just a front-end to lipo or not... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: Newer version of Pine? Message-ID: <1E3C863001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 19 Oct 95 11:53:00 EDT Has anyone managed to compile a newer version of Pine than the 1993 3.0.7 version? Yup. I've got 3.91 running on my 3.2 moto... I didn't compile it myself, but I'm guessing it must be possible. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Converting TrueType Fonts? Date: 19 Oct 1995 19:24:44 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <4668ls$r5l@ill.msilink.com> References: <4639ns$73q@masala.cc.uh.edu> Paul S. Sears <sears@uh.edu> wrote: > Does anyone know of an utility that will convert Windows TrueType fonts to > Type 1 PostScript Fonts? Fontographer by Macromedia. Available for Windows and Mac. This will let you convert and edit fonts. http://www.macromedia.com for info on getting their free demo CD-ROM that has a demo version of Fontographer for the Mac. You could also pick up "Fontographer: Type by Design" ISBN #1-55828-447-8 for a good book on font design using Fontographer. Illustrations are snapshots from the Mac version. I've never heard of a font editor for NS. Last I heard, the only one in development for commercial sale was scrapped. > We have a CD with 1000 fonts that we are site licensed for and we want to > make them usable on NEXTSTEP...... For automated conversion without editing, try and find a copy of Metamorphosis Pro (Mac). It's not being made anymore, but it works. I bought it when it was still supported by Altsys, but I think Macromedia might have the code for it now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DGppvy.1pF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:21:34 GMT References: <331D863001A23A7C@-smf-> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <331D863001A23A7C@-smf->, LUOMA,TIMOTHY <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote: > >I'm not sure if MetroSuction is just a front-end to lipo or not... > I have memories of it being so. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: r.daher@csuohio.edu (Rony Daher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for the following Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:57:17 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Message-ID: <4672oq$5ts@csu-b.csuohio.edu> I'm looking for the following drivers/software for NeXT/Intel 3.3 1) A driver for a Gravis Ultrasound sound card 2) A driver that will support Color on Trident series VLB SVGA cards 3) Any backup software which supports Colorado Jumbo tape drives. Thanks Email/Newsgroup replies welcomed Rony Daher Information Services and Technology Cleveland State University EMAIL: r.daher@csuohio.edu
From: Mark Booth <markb@asysa.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel NEXTSTEP, PC Speaker sound driver?? Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 10:54:39 GMT Organization: Advanced System Architectures Ltd. Message-ID: <DGozn5.58x@asysa.demon.co.uk> Since I do not have a sound card in the machine I use, I was wondering if there is a PC speaker sound driver available for the NEXTSTEP 3.3. I have seen similar drivers for Win3.1, and they work surprisingly well, even with interrupts turned on. I know that the quality is pretty awfull, but I would rather have limited sound capability than none at all. Thanks for your help peoples, Mark.........
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: NeXT Answers Message-ID: <45E3863001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 19 Oct 95 23:46:00 EDT Just flipped through the NeXTAnswers today, and saw that they have put in a few good man pages on there, ie: mount/disk/fsck... These are some really good manpages that you'd like to have access to when your system crashes and you can get to them. I wish they'd been there about a month ago when my system went psycho, but I think its a great thing -- NeXT thinking about the people who are using their OS. Just a small thing, maybe, but valuable when needed... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> ASCII Email only! No NeXTMail or MIME please NOTE: My stupid DOS mail reader strips off REPLY-TO lines. Please make sure to include your email address within the text of your message.
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Inbound FTP: Is there a secret? Date: 20 Oct 1995 13:14:11 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <4687b3$4tf@linus.mitre.org> I'm trying to find a convenient way to get large amounts of informa- tion from my Powerbook to my NeXTStation. Since I have an ethernet cable for my NeXT and a transceiver box for my Powerbook, I decided to try FTP. So...I disabled Netinfo, (...and just why I was running Netinfo on a stand-alone NeXT is another story), assigned dummy INTERNET addresses to my station and my Powerbook, hooked up the cable, rebooted both machines, fired up FTP on the Powerbook, and...nothing. No connection is ever made. I get a few indicator lights on the transceive box, but that's it. Now admittedly my knowledge of IP and networks is sketchy at best, but here are some of the things that I've assumed: 1. If inetd is running (and it is) it actually "listens" on the ftp port and fires up ftpd as necessary. Is this correct? 2. Using actual IP addresses in Fetch (my FTP program) should aliev- iate the need for nameservers and address lookup, correct? 3. Could there be a problem in cabling? I'm using a single cable with T-connectors and terminators. Should I be using a loop? 4. I used IP addresses that, if I understand it correctly, are Class C and that have the same domain and sub-domain (i.e.: they only differ on final field). So, my friends, what could be the problem. Is there a magic secret about enabling inbound FTP when Netinfo is not running. Unfortunately, NeXT's online documentation about FTP, and its relation to NeXTs and Netinfo, is sketchy. They make it sound like it should "just work". Help! Thanks in advance. - Bill | William Herndon \ MITRE, Secure Information Technology Dept. | | wherndon@mitre.org \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "We have entered the era of trickle-down compassion" - Rev. F.Chruch | | Me? Speak for MITRE? Bwahahahahaahahahahah!!!! |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tien@ampere.nsc.com (Tien P. Tran) Subject: Apple Color LaserWriter 12/600 driver ? Message-ID: <DGr99M.JHH@nsc.nsc.com> Sender: news@nsc.nsc.com (netnews maintenance) Organization: National Semiconductor Corp. Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:17:46 GMT I'm looking for Apple Color LaserWriter 12/600 driver for NEXTSTEP on SPARC. Please email me if you find one. Thanks, -tien-
From: robertn@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Configureable proxy server Date: 19 Oct 1995 16:22:25 -0700 Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Sender: robertn@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com Message-ID: <h2rb09ys7i.fsf@seahawk.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <4634na$alq@news.sns-felb.debis.de> In-reply-to: specht@hamlet.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.com's message of 18 Oct 1995 14:58:50 GMT Well assuming you're not about to get prosecuted for violating somebody's security you could just run a tcpgated script. -- The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the poster and not his employer.
From: Stephen Shiboski Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 20 Oct 1995 19:50:46 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: stephen@stat.Berkeley.EDU Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. Any information would be appreciated. -- Stephen Shiboski <steve@biostat.ucsf.edu> Division of Biostatistics University of California, San Francisco
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,rec.games.computer.doom.misc,alt.games.quake,rec.games.computer.doom.editing,rec.games.computer.doom.playing,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.ii,comp.sys.mac.games.action Subject: CFV: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing} Followup-To: poster Date: 20 Oct 1995 22:02:15 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.quake-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> References: <43mttl$83h@rodan.UU.NET> Archive-Name: rec.games.computer.quake FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.games.computer.quake.announce unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.editing unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.misc Newsgroups lines: rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/Announcements about Quake (Moderated). rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files. rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion of Quake. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 Nov 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Kyle R. Hofmann <rhofmann@crl.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: all groups Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of messages about Quake. The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes, the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is around 51%). Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide. | Actual number of readers in sampled population | | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all | | | Recent traffic (messages per month) | | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month) | | | | | Crossposting percentage | | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr | | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders | | | | | | | | who read this group. Month Rank V V V V V V V V jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will be posted in November when more information about Quake is available. These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic messages in other newsgroups. CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.announce This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings, announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new servers, reviews, etc. The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the following addresses: Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.editing Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software will release an editor which will allow people to create their own universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some of them have already been developed but will not be released before Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors, editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats. Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc instead (or in .playing when this group is created). CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.misc This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created. Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with other games, piracy, etc. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake. END CHARTER. 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From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 20 Oct 1995 21:01:16 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <4692ms$4c7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> Stephen Shiboski <steve@biostat.ucsf.edu> writes > Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as > I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not > support the faster modems. I just installed a 28.8Kb Zyxel modem with my non-turbo color NeXTstation about a week or so ago. The current NXFax software appears to work fine so far, after adjusting one of the S registers for U-1496 compatibility as explained by B&W (also mentioned on one of the NeXT newsgroups, I believe.) I'm in a transistion situation where the Zyxel upgrade program was ending but I don't have access to 28.8Kb modems to dial into yet, so I'm just using it as a U-1496 compatible until then. > Also, I'm curious about just how much speed the NeXT serial ports > will support. Mine are still set at 38.4Kb as they were for the 14.4Kb U-1496 -- when I have access to 28.8Kb SLIP dialin, I know that's not optimal but if I can achieve close to 38.4Kb, I'll be happier regardless. - Christopher
From: dguthrie@iisys.com Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: 20 Oct 1995 22:44:06 GMT Organization: insanely interactive systems inc. (http://www.iisys.com) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. I'm interested in any experiences anybody has had with NeXT hardware acting as a Web Server and what server software they used. Please email your comments or suggestions. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Guthrie - dguthrie@iisys.com Chief Technical Officer insanely interactive systems inc. <*> http://www.iisys.com <*> Tel: 1.514.637.7730 - Fax: 1.514.637.2883 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ispell region not working under NS 3.3 with ispell 3.1 Date: 20 Oct 1995 22:16:59 GMT Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Message-ID: <46974r$r46@independence.ecn.uoknor.edu> I've recently installed ispell 3.1 and detex on an intel machine running NS 3.3. When I spell check a single word in a \LaTeX\ document, things work fine. But when I try to run ispell on a region, something funny occurs. At least something different from what happened with my old version on my old slabe occurs. The old version goes in turn to each mispelled word. But now when I run ispell on a region, I get messages of the following sort. ***ispell misalignment: word ``pplb'' point 68; please retry. In other words, it does find the mispelled words, but doesn't go to them. I probably need to change something somewhere, but I'm not sure what. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks CS ========================================================================= Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324 University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745 Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-2660 ========================================================================= --
From: dguthrie@iisys.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep v3.3 for Black WANTED! Date: 20 Oct 1995 22:48:23 GMT Organization: insanely interactive systems inc. (http://www.iisys.com) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4698vn$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> I'm looking for someone that may be interested in selling their NeXTStep v3.3 package. (Either OS or OS w/Development system). If you are selling such a beast, drop me a note with the asking price. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Guthrie - dguthrie@iisys.com Chief Technical Officer insanely interactive systems inc. <*> http://www.iisys.com <*> Tel: 1.514.637.7730 - Fax: 1.514.637.2883 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? Date: 20 Oct 1995 23:37:33 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <469brt$8bg@news1.ucsd.edu> Keywords: pdf The title: PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? Is my only question. Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: 21 Oct 1995 00:18:39 GMT Organization: (null pointer) Message-ID: <469e8v$pkf@trane.opensource.com> In article <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> dguthrie@iisys.com wrote: I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using >NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering >if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. > Hard disk speed, and how much memory is in each machine, is going to have some effect on speed. You don't mention what kind of drive you are using on either machine; nor how much memory the Cube has. There are also other considerations, however. First, clients such as Netscape often issue multiple requests against a WWW server when there are inline images. For instance, an html file which had five different .gif images would have Netscape issuing five GETs against the WWW server at roughly the same time. This means five copies of the server software have to be started at once, a real drain on available memory. I found that using WN, with its built-in imagemapping capability, to be very speedy, and not as much of a drain on resources. On the other hand, Apache was even faster, but since my system was low on memory, the effective speed was about the same, and caused more swapping. Another advantage to someone using NEXTSTEP would simply be that the normal tasks of moving files around, etc. is much easier. It is easy to inspect and set permissions; to rename whole directories, and to rearrange things. If you are very comfortable with csh or bash, then this may not be much of an advantage; but then of course you always have that option under NEXTSTEP anyways. There are also nice applications for authoring WWW pages, and manipulating and creating images under NEXTSTEP. -- Patrick Giagnocavo, Account Executive, email:patrick@opensource.com OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203 Check us out on the WWW at http://www.opensource.com (303).861.4411 Fax: (303).861.2393 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: CD Writing Message-ID: <1995Oct20.212839.9499@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France References: <1995Oct16.150336.9386@ares.fdn.org> <1995Oct19.115655.5766@free.fdn.org> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 21:28:39 GMT Hi, I just got the CDU920S SCSI manual and the first version of the software will only support the "Disk at once" method and I will rely on the "mkisofs" source code for the CD image data. I also will write an ufs dump to extract a file system image suitable for writing NEXTSTEP direct readable CD. Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 21 Oct 1995 03:25:27 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto Message-ID: <469p77$hqf@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu>, Stephen Shiboski wrote: >Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as >I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not >support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how >much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. Yep, I'm using a Supra faxmodem (v.34) until I figure out the ISDN situation. It works great with NXFax, ppp, etc...I have the port set to 38400. Previously I had been using the excellent ZyXEL modems, but they are really far too expensive as compared to the rest of the system. ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ajasvanu@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Atip Asvanund) Subject: Installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 with EIDE CDROM Message-ID: <DGq9n6.1w2@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 03:28:18 GMT I have a Dell Dimension P5/133 that comes with an EIDE CDROM drive. As far as I know, NeXTSTEP installation disks do not come with the drivers for my CDROM drive. So, I searched through www.next.com and got the drivers for it which is in .compressed format. I am having difficulty making a floppy image from that file. The documenation avaliable on the site only explains how to do it from a running NeXT machine. I have no access to another NeXTSTEP machine. I am running Win95 now. I was told that the .compressed format is the same as .tar.Z, so I put that .compressed driver on my unix account, and uncompressed and untared it, resulting in a .pkg directory. However, the same documentation say I should get a .pkg file which I can create a floppy image from to be used for additional drivers during installation. I don't know why I got a directory instead of a file. Can someone who knows the solution to my problems help enlighten me? Thank you very much Atip Asvanund
From: tim@indiana.edu (Tim Breslin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Don't know root pw Date: 21 Oct 1995 16:49:45 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <46b8b9$2ll@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> I have inherited a NeXT that no one knows the root password for. It has sat around for so long that I cannot find who the last owner was. Anyone know how to get around this? I don't mind blowing the whole thing away and starting from scratch. In fact that is what I plan to do once I can get past the password screen. I know this might sound like I am trying to hack this thing, but it's not that way. Thanks. Tim tim@indiana.edu University Computing Services
From: C“ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MOO or MUD client for NS Date: 21 Oct 1995 19:25:30 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <46bhfa$6gq@chinx4.thoughtport.COM> References: <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM> In article <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM>, Jeff wrote: > Is anyone aware of a MOO or MUD client that runs under NeXTSTEP? Jeff, My son uses my Nextstation for connecting to MUSEs, such as those on musenet.org, with "tf", a program that runs in character mode in a Terminal.app window. He compiled it for black hardware NS3.2 and it seems to work fine. tf can provide a split window in which input is entered at the bottom, and the MUSE traffic is scrolled in the top area. tf is at ftp://eeunix.ee.usm.maine.edu/pub/virtreality/clients/, or I can NextMail you a copy of the app. -Ez ez@thoughtport.com
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <46bo0g$hpf@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Control: cancel <46bo0g$hpf@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: 21 Oct 1995 21:21:27 GMT Organization: PhilosVille Message-ID: <46bo8n$hpf@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MOO or MUD client for NS Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Oct 1995 21:22:55 GMT Organization: PhilosVille Message-ID: <46bobf$hpf@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM> On 18 Oct 1995 21:16:09 GMT Jeff Hirschman (jeffh@jerusalem.FirePower.COM.) wrote: >Is anyone aware of a MOO or MUD client that runs under NeXTSTEP? Yep, tf as previously suggested. Compiles fine. Great app. -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ <A HREF="http://philos.resnet.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca</A>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: the mole <tm@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Newer version of Pine? In-Reply-To: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu's message of 19 Oct 1995 15:16:08 GMT Message-ID: <7xg2gn43ac.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de Fcc: ~/mail/sent-mail Organization: hardly any... References: <463t6j$g30@hod.hiof.no> <465q3o$svi@moe.cc.emory.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 09:03:23 GMT >>>>> "su" == Satoru Uzawa <suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu> writes: su> Pine 3.91 copiled out of package with 3.3 Dev. I got su> the source from Linux archive site. Good luck! is it possible to make the binaries available? thanks, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/ __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: the mole <tm@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware In-Reply-To: Stephen Shiboski's message of 20 Oct 1995 19:50:46 GMT Message-ID: <7xd9br42sv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: Stephen Shiboski <stephen@stat.Berkeledu> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de Fcc: ~/mail/sent-mail Organization: hardly any... References: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 09:13:52 GMT >>>>> "StS" == Stephen <Shiboski> writes: StS> Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as StS> I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not StS> support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how StS> much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. I don't think it's a problem of the software not supporting 28.8 it's just that most fax machines send and receive in 14.4 (I believe). My 28.8 modem (it's called Creatix SG 2834 but probably not available in the US or under another name) works fine. I've set the speed on my serial port to 57.6, it works just fine (NS 3.2, turbo(!) slab). hth, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/ __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/
From: cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 03:22:38 GMT Organization: Fibernet: 1-800-305-6995 Distribution: world Message-ID: <cpayne.63.3089B8FD@fiber.net> References: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> >I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using >NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering >if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. Faster? Heck yeah. Better web server? Not likely. With VDNs (virtual domain names) being so incredibly (over)popular these days, and the inability of NeXTSTEP versions lower than 4.0 to do multi-address interfaces, your BEST bet for the money is to find a Sun. If you must stay x86, there are many good choices out there that you can run Apache or whatever on. We have both. Our personal web site is on a NeXTCUBE running a hacked Cern 3.0, our VDN clients' now run on a Solaris machine running Apache. Carl
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Ispell region not working under NS 3.3 with ispell 3.1 Date: 22 Oct 1995 01:52:45 -0700 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <ezqet3noi.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <46974r$r46@independence.ecn.uoknor.edu> In-reply-to: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu's message of 20 Oct 1995 22:16:59 GMT To: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer) ispell-region works fine for me under NS 3.2 and ispell 3.1.18 (moving to 20 tonight) -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BlackJava crypted Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 22 Oct 1995 15:50:44 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Message-ID: <46dp8k$k3f@news.vanderbilt.edu> References: <46338c$ape@malibu.unice.fr> Marc Monticelli (marc@ecu.unice.fr) wrote: : Hi, : I found BlackJava on an European ftp Site. : The file is crypted. Do you know how obtain the key ? Reading README files sometimes helps alot !!!!! Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Stripping Multi-Architecture Binaries Date: 22 Oct 1995 16:45:19 GMT Organization: a black NeXT Message-ID: <46dsev$kim@news.vanderbilt.edu> References: <45td87$jfa@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <463vbr$ip@news.vanderbilt.edu> <DGoGv5.9r1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <463vbr$ip@news.vanderbilt.edu>, : Thomas Katzlberger <katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> wrote: : >Tomaz Slivnik (ts110@jay.pmms.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : >: I am running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NextStation TurboColor. I have tried : >: installing Virtuoso 2.0 demo on it. Since it is a MAB, I needed to remove : >: the i386 architecture from it in order for it to run under NS 3.0. : >: I used Darcy Brockbank's qlipo 1.1 in order to do this. It all goes : >: through happily, except that qlipo does not seem to be able to cope with : >: binaries which are smaller than 8192 bytes in size. : > : >: Can anyone suggest an alternative tool for thinning MAB files which will : >: run under NextStep 3.0? : > : >: Thank you very much. : > : >: Tomaz Slivnik : > : >take a look at the manpage of lipo : > : >man lipo : > : >Option -thin : > : Ummmm...except that 3.0 doesn't have lipo. : Does 3.0's segedit grok MAB files? If so, you could load in some bogus : padding segments to increase the executable size. Goofie, but it might work. Try to sniff around in the Installer.app wrapper. There are some scripts in there (at least in 3.0 I think they are scripts, now they are binaries) and find out how they do it. otherwise package it with Package.app and Install the app again, not convenient but might work, although it seems to be an overkill. Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: soren@datashopper.dk (Søren Mathiasen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Danish Nextusergroup Date: 22 Oct 1995 22:33:07 GMT Organization: DataShopper Danmark Message-ID: <46egr3$f6r@hades.datashopper.dk> Does anyone how if there is a danish usergroupe.... Thanks, Soren
From: kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: imagemap editing tool for NS Date: 23 Oct 1995 09:56:12 GMT Organization: CalvaCom Networks Message-ID: <46fors$h1j@midgard.calvacom.fr> Hi, Is there any WYSIWYG ImageMap editing tool for NS? Thanks, Kamal. --- Kamal Bennani MVCD (Medical Science & Communication) 11, rue Ferdinand Duval 75004 Paris FRANCE Tel: +33 (1) 44 78 82 63 Fax : +33 (1) 44 78 62 61 e-mail : kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr (NeXTMAIL, MIME are accepted)
From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: looking for compiled (m68k or MAB) version of Movie 3 Date: 23 Oct 95 11:07:24 GMT Organization: FH-Hannover Message-ID: <armin.814446444@master> Could somebody send me a compiled version of "Movie 3" (m68k or MAB), or send me a location where i can find one? I've tried to compile the "Movie.3.s.tar.gz" package on a NeXTcube running NS 3.0. "ld" stops, complaining about an unknown symbol named "_NXSwapLong". Thanx in advantage. -------------------------------------------------------------- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (NeXTmail & MIME OK!) WWW URL: http://www.kd.fh-hannover.de/~armin/ -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
From: nut@xedoc.com.au (Norton Truter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a Clocks Palette > v0.9? Date: 23 Oct 1995 04:36:36 GMT Organization: Access One Pty Ltd., Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <46f64k$ofk@news.mel.aone.net.au> I have Clocks Palette V0.9, dated December 1993 by one Jim Million (uunet!lwitel!jmillion). Does anyone know if there is a later version of this or does MiscKit have all the right stuff, or what?
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 23 Oct 1995 04:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <46f4sf$8uj@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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From: klingler@mack.rt66.com (Dave Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT User Group info for sought for Albuquerque NM Date: 22 Oct 1995 23:47:28 -0600 Organization: Engineering International, Inc. Message-ID: <46fa9g$7ti@mack.rt66.com> References: <4634k1$fsg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <4634k1$fsg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Colin Eric Johnson <colinj@umich.edu> wrote: > I'm headed southwest soon and I would like to find a NeXT user >group in the Albuquerque NM area. Does such an animal exist? Well, it used to exist, Colin, but we agreed not to meet for a little while and that seems to have stretched out for quite a long time. Contact me when you get here and maybe we can organize something. I'd certainly be glad to hear from you. Dave
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Network problem on an Intel 486 Pro/GX Date: 23 Oct 1995 18:51:55 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <46go8b$307@news.next.com> References: <45qp7e$40f@melimelo.enst-bretagne.fr> In article <45qp7e$40f@melimelo.enst-bretagne.fr> snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr (Dominique SNYERS) writes: | I have tried upgrading an Intel 486 pro/GX that was running perfectly | under 3.2 to 3.3 and it just does not work anymore. The cuplrit, I think | is the SMC Elite 16 driver. I got a lot of NFS timout errors indeed. | | I then changed the read and write buffer size and I was able to access | files across the net without timeout. I though that was the end of these | problems but when I logged in as a user I was rejected after a while. I | then tried to log in after having erased the .Next directory and it | worked. I put an application icon on the dock logout and login again and I | was rejected again. I am puzzled. | | Can someone help me on this? Is this a know problem? I have heard of 3.3 | patch somewhere, where could I get these. | | Thanks a lot | | Dom Snyers | -- There is a updated SMC16 driver on NextAnswers. This uses the hardware in 16-bit mode and should improve performance. -Rakesh
From: dean@universe.halcyon.com (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Most used modem for PPP Date: 23 Oct 1995 20:31:29 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <46gu31$ar7@news.halcyon.com> I am currently looking at replacing my ZyXEL 14.4 modem to a 28.8. Is there any modems that I should avoid? What are people using for PPP? I'll post a summary and list both bad and good for a modem compatability guide (if people are interested). Is there any problems with black hardware doing 28.8? I am using a NeXT Turbo Color with 3.3 Thanks in advance for your help, dean johnson -- NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff! | thrall@mail.halcyon.com | - My wife |
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: Cinet (Intel Triton P/90) info/advice Date: 24 Oct 1995 02:11:32 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <46heg4$6gg@alf.uib.no> Well, I've really already decided but wanted to post just in case anyone has any last minute tips or warnings... This is the PC I've found for NS (unless someone knows better): Cinet PPI-300 Intel mainboard, Triton chipset (better than Neptune, right?) P 90 (I decided the 133 wasn't worth the extra money, which I'll use instead on a beter monitor and video RAM.) Noone can tell me the performance difference between 90/133 but it doesn't seem to be much. It seems the mainboard supports all 3 buss clock speeds (50/60/66MHz), supports both EDO and normal RAM, Pipeline and Asynchron cache. So I've ordered 256kb cache (pipeline burst), 16MB RAM (not EDO) to start with. I can always trade in th chip for a faster one later if I need to. Grafics: Matrox Millenium MGA 2MB (I may get 4 - comments?) Monitor: Samsumg SyncMaster 17GLi or Nokia MultiGraph 477X or 477TV (supports TV in hardware :-) both 17" monitors. I don't know how big the difference between 1200x1024/60 and 1024x768/80 is as noone has a monitor to show me (!), but the MegaPixel is between the two. I'd rather have the higher resolution but the cost may be too high. Quantum Fireball (what a name for a disk :-) 1GB EIDE NEC 4x OEM EIDE CD-ROM I'll wait with soundcards until I know a bit more about NSfIP (I've been using black hardware for 4 years...) As I'm planning on purchasing this week I'd appreciate e-mail replies. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.com> Message-ID: <199510240121.AA037657673@relay1.geis.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 01:13:00 UTC Subject: Danish Nextusergroup >Does anyone how if there is a danish usergroupe.... >Thanks, Soren Soren, Yes, I know that a Danish User Group exists because last year I received a copy of their Newsletter which was more like a magazine. They sent it to me because they featured the Nebula CDROM in it. Too bad I can't read the magazine, but I'm sure it was a good review. I'll try and find the address or the email address and get back to you. Eric "E.T." Tremblay Walnut Creek CDROM eric@cdrom.com Phone 510 674-0783 Fax 510 674-0821 Publisher of the Nebula Quad-FAT for NEXTSTEP
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Does anyone know how to remove SoftPC for NeXTSTEP? Date: 24 Oct 1995 04:38:20 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <46hqjs$r8n@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 I installed SoftPC on my new NeXTSTEP installation. It is the demo version. I didn't use it for a week, so I removed it and reinstalled it. When I then attempted to run it it gave me a message that the demo period had expired. I only had it installed for a week so I know that the demo period had not expired. I really want to use this software, but I can't figure out how to fully remove it from my system. Just removing it through it's receipt doesn't do me any good. Any hints or suggestions? Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com Thanks in advance
From: Johannes Kretz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for Nextstep tool to create Audio CDs using a CD Writer device. Date: 24 Oct 1995 09:54:32 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <46id4o$2ru@peng.ping.at> From: Johannes Kretz <johkretz@ping.at> Barmherzigengasse 1/1/10 A-1030 Wien AUSTRIA EUROPE Tel.: ++43/1/7128420 Help ! I want to create Audio CDs (not CDROMs) by connecting a CD Writer e.g. Philips CDD522/10, Yamaha CDE-100 or CDR-100, Pinnacle RCD-1000, JVC XR2001, ... to my Next Cube 68040, NextStep 3.2. I really hope that some developer out there might be interested in writing an App for that, otherwise I would have to buy a Windows-PC. And that would really be a pain for a Nextstep User. Please send me a message, if you know anything about. Thanks in advance Johannes Kretz johkretz@ping.at
From: root (Borek Lupomesky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 24 Oct 1995 00:14:29 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> References: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> In <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> Stephen Shiboski wrote: > Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as > I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not > support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how > much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. Yeah, me, for example. I use my NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.3 with USRobotics DS V.34+ modem. On 33600 connect I achieved approx. 3650 cps. Which isn't that bad I think. Bye Borek
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Foreground and background colors in Next Applications Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 11:44:21 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951024114037.17568C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <45bdkp$rp8@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <45bdkp$rp8@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> There is no way to set the background color in most apps, which don't support a background! (White is the default color in DPS, as it is black for Pixel oriented devices). Anyway you may want to adjust the color in Terminal by using the preferences (of Terminal of course). Best regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ On 9 Oct 1995, Dario Ringach wrote: > How can I set the background and foreground colors of a Next application > such as Edit and Terminal? I can't seem to find anything in the manuals. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Dario > > -- > Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 lab: (212) 998-7730 > Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 fax: (212) 995-4011 > New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu > New York, NY 10003 | > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde) Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Message-ID: <1995Oct24.035613.327@cesar.uucp> Sender: pat@cesar.uucp References: <7xd9br42sv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 03:56:13 GMT In article <7xd9br42sv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> the mole <tm@burrow.muc.de> writes: > >>>>> "StS" == Stephen <Shiboski> writes: > > StS> Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as > StS> I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not > StS> support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how > StS> much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. > > I don't think it's a problem of the software not supporting 28.8 it's > just that most fax machines send and receive in 14.4 (I believe). > > My 28.8 modem (it's called Creatix SG 2834 but probably not available > in the US or under another name) works fine. I've set the speed on my > serial port to 57.6, it works just fine (NS 3.2, turbo(!) slab). > > hth, > > tm > -- I do remember in the early days talking with NeXT about black hardware serial ports. They said that non-turbo systems had a maximum throughtput of 38400 bps and that you could only get 57600 bps from a turbo. Now at the time we were talking about fast 19200 bps modems. I would really be interested to know if the ports are even faster than 115200 bps? P@ -- --------------------NeXT Mail Welcome------------------------- Patrique Lalonde Omnilogic 364 Wiseman voice : 514-953-6174 Outremont, Qc e-mail: pat%cesar@cam.org
From: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adaptec 1742 "enhanced" mode? Date: 24 Oct 1995 16:45 EDT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <24OCT199516455051@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 When we installed NEXTSTEP 3.2 some while ago, my understanding was that the only available driver for the Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI adapter required that the card be in the less- capable "normal" mode rather than the "enhanced" mode. Has this situation changed? That is, can I find a driver for 3.2 which will let the 1742 operate in "enhanced" mode? I suppose the second part of the question might be, "What difference would it make?" I believe that under DOS, the 1742 only achieves the full SCSI-II speed in enhanced mode. Is this also true under NEXTSTEP? Best regards, David okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: ton@tiac.net (Terence C. O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fax Software w/ US Robotics 28.8? Date: 25 Oct 1995 00:17:34 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <46jvmu$6gf@sundog.tiac.net> I called Black & White Software (makers of NXFax) today to see if they currently support the US Robotics 28.8 Sportster FAX modem. The answer was no, and there are no plans to due to support problems from US Robotics. Is anyone out there using Fax Software with the Sportster? ton@tiac.net -- ---- | Terry O'Neill ton@tiac.net / __ | Open Systems Consulting, Inc. NeXTMail/MIME /erry/ / | Principal (617) 848-2879 /_/'Neill | "There is no change without some pain......."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy In-Reply-To: dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com's message of Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:23:09 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:48:09 GMT I've used and installed quite a few CD-ROM drives for NEXTSTEP systems and the hands down winner is the Toshiba 3601. It's 4.4X, plays audio CDs, CD-ROMs, PhotoCD, etc..., and doesn't require a caddy! NEC is notorious for bad SCSI implementations. I strongly advise against it. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088 In article <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:22043 comp.sys.next.misc:45120 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25653 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: world!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!swissbank!root From: dbulb@il.us.swissbank.com Keywords: NS Intel CD-ROM Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: ny1d0124iwk Reply-To: dbulb@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:23:09 GMT Lines: 35 Hi, I need some help with selecting a CD-ROM drive for my Pentium NS system. The brief specs of the system I'm trying to build are: Intel Pentium, 32Mb RAM Adaptec 2940 SCSI NS 3.3 I obtained the NS Hardware Compatibility List, and found everything I needed except CD-ROM drives. After getting the cheapest SCSI drive (Sanyo CRD-254SH) I found out it didn't quite work when I tried to install NEXTSTEP. It works fine with Windows - I can read Windows-compatible CDs, but with NS, it spins for a while and comes with diagnostic 'Drive not ready'. I assume the problem might be either 1. - SCSI adaptor (I am using Adaptec 2940) 2. - CD-ROM drive. Since the SCSI adaptor is listed as NS-compatible, I bet the problem is with the drive. If anyone knows (I hope someone does) what brands of CD-ROM drives are supported by NS, PLEASE HELP! Thanks in advance Dmitry Bulbin reply to: dbulb@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MOO or MUD client for NS Date: 24 Oct 1995 22:23:33 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <46jp15$mnp@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM> <46bhfa$6gq@chinx4.thoughtport.COM> ez@thoughtport.com wrote: > In article <463qqp$dnt@enquirer.FirePower.COM>, Jeff wrote: > > Is anyone aware of a MOO or MUD client that runs under > > NeXTSTEP? > > > > Jeff, > My son uses my Nextstation for connecting to MUSEs, such as those > on musenet.org, with "tf", a program that runs in character mode > in a Terminal.app window. He compiled it for black hardware NS3.2 > and it seems to work fine. tf can provide a split window in which > input is entered at the bottom, and the MUSE traffic is scrolled > in the top area. For people into emacs, there's a mud.el that should work fine under NeXTSTEP. I'm sure there's many more intelligent places to get that, but if you don't turn it up anywhere else it's at: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/pub/lily/emacs (which is a directory that has a couple of files in it). Note that I don't use this client, but there are others that do and seem happy with it. 'lily', btw, is a chat system that's implemented in LambdaMOO (from Pavel Curtis@Xerox). We like to think of it as "IRC, but done much better" (that's glossing over a lot of details, obviously :-}). The RPI lily server runs on a NeXTstation running NS-3.2. I don't *think* these emacs files have anything specific to lily, but I'm not sure of that. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mist@rain.postech.ac.kr (Park Chan Kyu(94)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStation or Cube image. Date: 25 Oct 1995 12:21:13 GMT Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea Message-ID: <46la3p$v8@xpat.postech.ac.kr> I want to get some image files of NeXTStation or NeXTCube. Where can I get these.? Thanks.. -- from Postech, Pohang, Korea Park Chan-Kue. mist@mammoth.postech.ac.kr
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Oct 1995 12:39:08 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <46lb5c$q56@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote: : I've used and installed quite a few CD-ROM drives for NEXTSTEP systems : and the hands down winner is the Toshiba 3601. It's 4.4X, plays audio : CDs, CD-ROMs, PhotoCD, etc..., and doesn't require a caddy! I'm using a XM-3601TA on a NSI System with NCR53c810 and Symbios Logic driver 3.00 (upgraded today to 3.33). I can't play audio-CDs from within NeXTSTEP. CDPlayer launches but hangs trying to access the CD-ROM. In fact, it hangs so hard, that I can only move the mouse every some seconds. The only way out seems to be ejecting the CD. Then I'm able to kill CDPlayer. Any ideas? Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? Date: 25 Oct 1995 01:01:18 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <469brt$8bg@news1.ucsd.edu> penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) wrote: > PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? OmniPDF is a likely candidate. Available from various sources, I imagine. One of them is: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/web/OmniPDF_f which is a directory of several files. It includes a quad-fat version of the application, as well as four single-architecture versions. The version number that is there is 1.32. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: sh script to find and report broken links Message-ID: <4DF58D3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 25 Oct 95 08:29:00 EDT Last night I found several old links which had been broken by my attempts to re-organize some of the filesystem. Since it was such a pain, I decided to write a script that would do it for me. Then I figured someone else might be able to use it. The code is simple and ugly, but it did what I wanted in a short amount of time. It shows (at the end) how I invoke it, and its usage is pretty simple: if a file is a link, check to see if the file it references is really there. If it isn't email me (root). all standard non-warantees apply. TjL #!/bin/sh # who should the script tell mailto=root reference=`/bin/ls -l $1 | awk '{print $NF}'` if test -r $reference then : else echo $1 echo "$1 in `pwd` references to $reference which DOES NOT EXIST" | \ /usr/ucb/Mail -s "Bogus Link" $mailto # to have a report made in one file rather than, email, uncomment # these two lines: # touch /tmp/badlinks # echo "$1 in `pwd` references to $reference which DOES NOT EXIST" >> /tmp/badlinks fi exit 0 # usage: # This is a 'find and test links' program (f a t links) # I invoke it like this: myprompt> find . -type l -exec /usr/local/bin/fatlinks {} \; # NOTE: this only checks from the current directory down, replace # the 'find .' with 'find /' if you want to do the whole silly # system, or 'find ~' if you want to check your account. # if it finds any links it thinks are bad, it emails me with as # much information as I can think to give. # I decided to do this after finding a bunch of links had been # broken, and I didn't know how to find all of the fast. # It isn't supposed to be elegant, it is supposed to be a quick # fix. If anyone knows a better way, tell me. I promise not to # be insulted.
From: Howard Ship Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? Date: 24 Oct 1995 18:02:40 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: us Message-ID: <46j9o0$nvo@transfer.stratus.com> References: <469brt$8bg@news1.ucsd.edu> In PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? comp.sys.next.misc <ArticleDisplayer: 0x41d9b4> writes, > > The title: > > PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? > I use OmniPDF ... try around http://www.omnigroup.com -- Now my EMOTIONAL RESOURCES are heavily committed to 23% of the SMELTING and REFINING industry of the state of NEVADA!! Howard Ship <hship@cac.stratus.com> `88 FZR1000 (Zed) "I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: sams@shellx.best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Foreground and background colors in Next Applications Date: 25 Oct 1995 10:30:45 -0700 Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <46ls85$crv@shellx.best.com> References: <45bdkp$rp8@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <Pine.HPP.3.91.951024114037.17568C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> This reminds me of my favorite (undocumented) Terminal trick... dwrite Terminal LibraryMenu Yes This gives you a library menu under "Shell>" with all your saved terminal files in it. You can then save a bunch of terminal files (each with a different color), assign command keys to these menu items in Preferences.app, and open a bunch of visibly different shell windows quickly from the keyboard. I use the top row of shifted numbers (ie cmd-!@#$%^) since these aren't used in Terminal. I then make a habit of doing certain kinds of work only in certain colors of window, so I can identify sessions by color. If there's a demand, I have a slew of aesthetically pleasing, very readable color schemes I can make available for ftp. (This only works in NS 3.3) cheers, -sam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: console message -- overrun? Message-ID: <42828E3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 25 Oct 95 18:30:00 EDT Oct 25 16:15:09 charisma mach: zs0: recv uart overrun This message kept appearing when I was on the modem (through /dev/cua at 57600) anyone know what it is trying to tell me? I'm thinking that the 'uart' is talking about 'Stuart' but I could be way off.... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy In-Reply-To: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 25 Oct 1995 12:39:08 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Oct25215356@world.std.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> <46lb5c$q56@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:53:56 GMT Send me your full system configuration (motherboard, CPU, BIOS, cards, etc..) and I'll try to assist you. As I said, I am using that drive on my system. The problem is very likely to be elsewhere. Robert In article <46lb5c$q56@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:22298 comp.sys.next.misc:45295 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26041 Path: world!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!kiwi From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Oct 1995 12:39:08 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 23 References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cachalot.cs.tu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote: : I've used and installed quite a few CD-ROM drives for NEXTSTEP systems : and the hands down winner is the Toshiba 3601. It's 4.4X, plays audio : CDs, CD-ROMs, PhotoCD, etc..., and doesn't require a caddy! I'm using a XM-3601TA on a NSI System with NCR53c810 and Symbios Logic driver 3.00 (upgraded today to 3.33). I can't play audio-CDs from within NeXTSTEP. CDPlayer launches but hangs trying to access the CD-ROM. In fact, it hangs so hard, that I can only move the mouse every some seconds. The only way out seems to be ejecting the CD. Then I'm able to kill CDPlayer. Any ideas? Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: booting from CD on 3.2 m68k Message-ID: <E1CA8E3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 25 Oct 95 19:52:00 EDT This has been another hotly debated issue lately. There have been a few suggestions, but none of them have worked for me. Which leads to believe either: 1) the suggestions were not 100% correct or 2) I didn't follow them correctly. The best I can do is boot single user off the CD. Is it possible to get a full boot off of the CD under 3.2? I've got the disk I need to help (which I needed to install). Is anyone doing this under NS 3.2 m68k who would just send me a note saying how they are going about it? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1742 "enhanced" mode? Message-ID: <rfenney-251095235130@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <24OCT199516455051@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:51:15 GMT In article <24OCT199516455051@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) wrote: > When we installed NEXTSTEP 3.2 some while ago, my understanding > was that the only available driver for the Adaptec 1742 > EISA SCSI adapter required that the card be in the less- > capable "normal" mode rather than the "enhanced" mode. > Has this situation changed? That is, can I find a driver > for 3.2 which will let the 1742 operate in "enhanced" mode? > > I suppose the second part of the question might be, "What > difference would it make?" I believe that under DOS, the 1742 > only achieves the full SCSI-II speed in enhanced mode. Is this > also true under NEXTSTEP? > > Best regards, > David > okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov I would love one of these drivers as well! Robert
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysamin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Symbios Logic vs. NeXT's 53c8xx Driver Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:42:20 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951026103405.11977E-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was using an cheap Seagate 1GB and Quantum Mavarick with an NCR 810: IOZone results: (size, block-size, write Bytes/sec, read Bytes/sec) (on Seagate Drive) Symbios Driver by NeXT, async mode: 16 512 1465325 2243055 16 1024 1506106 2650550 16 2048 1557844 2431598 16 4096 1535040 2545985 16 8192 1572445 2569369 Symbios Driver by NeXT, sync mode: 16 512 1495362 8027744 16 1024 1602481 9532915 16 2048 1656268 10421109 16 4096 1643287 10046633 16 8192 1641680 10107219 Symbios Driver by Symbios: 16 512 2162112 2732574 16 1024 1953196 2912847 16 2048 1973880 2996076 16 4096 2021444 2912846 16 8192 2019011 2912843 The interesting thing is the following: - read buffer handling seems to be better in sync mode with new driver (too good values, the drive only handles max. 3MB/s) - write drops with NeXT driver about 25%! Doing a practical test, by moving 90MB directories (one with large files, one with small files), I noticed nearly no performance differences between the Symbios driver and the NeXT driver in sync mode. The NeXT driver is about 15% faster on big files which is contrary to the IOZone results and equal fast on small files. Maybe somebody has a explanation? Which driver would you prefer? Is there any difference to the Symbios driver when using Wide Disks and Controller? (My hardware doesn't support wide-SCSI) Best regards, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: eek93@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 26 Oct 1995 11:22:36 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Message-ID: <46nr1s$d5r@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> <7xd9br42sv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> I also have no problems using PNI SLIP with my 28800 Hayes Accura modem. The serial port works with 57600 speed with absolutely no problems. Thanks, Eren Kotan root@darkside.aladdin.co.uk
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: console message -- overrun? Date: 26 Oct 1995 08:45:57 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <46nvu5$gd@papoose.quick.com> References: <42828E3001A23A7C@-smf-> In article <42828E3001A23A7C@-smf->, LUOMA,TIMOTHY <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote: > >Oct 25 16:15:09 charisma mach: zs0: recv uart overrun > >This message kept appearing when I was on the modem (through /dev/cua at >57600) > >anyone know what it is trying to tell me? I'm thinking that the 'uart' >is talking about 'Stuart' but I could be way off.... No this is not Stuart. This is your serial port. The acronym UART stands for "Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter". The problem is that you are running your port faster than the system can service interrupts from the serial chip. If you have the proper cabling, you can try using the device 'cufa' instead of cua. This uses hardware flow control. It is generally a bad idea to run devices faster than 19200 without using hardware flow control. If your system is a turbo, you may find that the problem goes away after switching to cufa (no promises though). If you still have the problem with cufa, then you will have no choice but to use cufa with 38400 baud rate. Black hardware just wasn't build for todays high baud rate devices. Refer to man zs, for more information on the cu device naming convention, and on the cabling requirements for hardware flow control. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: briansp@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Brian W. Spolarich) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Followup-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 26 Oct 1995 16:36:59 GMT Organization: Gale Research Distribution: world Message-ID: <46odfb$spv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> dguthrie@iisys.com wrote: : I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using : NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering : if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. I had a NeXT Turbo (040/33/16MB) I was using as an HTTP server for a while. The only problems that I had with 3.2 was that the response time wasn't really exciting, and that occasionally, the httpd instances would fail to exit properly, eventually choking the machine. I suspect the tradeoffs would probably put the Linux box ahead, depending on the robustness of your PC's supporting architecture. You could run a load comparison and see. I'd be curious to know the results. -brian -- =+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+= Brian W. Spolarich briansp@umich.edu Gale Research (800) 877-GALE x1021 Internet Publishing Specialist http://galenet.gale.com/ =+=-=+=RSA: Putting the SUE back into the Information Superhighway.-=+=-=+=
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: console message -- overrun? Date: 26 Oct 1995 18:58:56 GMT Organization: A Big, Black Box. Message-ID: <46olpg$jnl@nnrp2.news.primenet.com> References: <42828E3001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) wrote: > Oct 25 16:15:09 charisma mach: zs0: recv uart overrun > This message kept appearing when I was on the modem (through /dev/cua at > 57600) > anyone know what it is trying to tell me? I'm thinking that the 'uart' is talking about 'Stuart' but I could be way off.... When I get these, they never stop... and it usually results in a panic if I don't disconnect and restart. Sometimes even that doesn't help. -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: cpayne@optical (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: 26 Oct 1995 21:06:23 GMT Organization: Fibernet! Satisfy the need for speed Distribution: world Message-ID: <46ot8f$t3f@optical.fiber.net> References: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> <46odfb$spv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Brian W. Spolarich (briansp@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu) wrote: > dguthrie@iisys.com wrote: > : I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using > : NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering > : if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. > I had a NeXT Turbo (040/33/16MB) I was using as an HTTP server for a > while. The only problems that I had with 3.2 was that the response > time wasn't really exciting, and that occasionally, the httpd > instances would fail to exit properly, eventually choking the > machine. Well...that wasn't the case here. I'm actually VERY happy with our NeXT / CERN web server. The only real complaint I have is the lack of multi interface support. It's very fast (faster than any x86 machine I've dumped Apache onto), handles NFS mounted user directories very well (see the NeXTANSWERS doc, I forget the #) <oops, damn vi> anyhow, don't base your decision on two opinions, for certain. Also, I suspect 3.3 is a much better OS than 3.2 was. I only allowed it on my Cube for a few weeks. Phooie. -- Carl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: background & background tiffs Message-ID: <A9E48F3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 26 Oct 95 19:42:00 EDT 1) I am looking for TIFF files large enough to use as backgrounds on my NeXTStation (mono) 2) is anyone out there using 'background' to display TIFF files in the background? If so, please email me. I am trying to figure out how to override the '-p' flag after it has been used, and I am also trying to figure out how to set a background image for the machine when it boots, so that any user who logs in will be able to see it without having to set it up themselves. Thanks! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Should I enable swapfile compression on TurboColor? Date: 27 Oct 1995 03:09:08 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <46pigk$o5s@spool.cs.wisc.edu> The NeXT Release Notes page "OperatingSystem.rtf" states that swapfile compression is automatically enabled for systems with low memory, and that it is a good idea where the CPU is fast relative to the I/O. It's less of a good idea where the system is a server, especially for compiling or image serving. But the page goes on to say that the compression ratio may be higher for a single-user color workstation with many on-screen windows. Well, that tells the trade-offs. It sounds like a good idea, but I'm looking for expert advice / personal experience as to whether it would be a good idea for a stand-alone TurboColor with 32 MB. Here's my configuration: NeXT TurboColor 32 MB, 70 ns RAM system is on 1.2 GB Seagate Hawk drive, with swapping on separate 191 MB partition of a Fujitsu drive single-user like to run OmniWeb, Mathematica, TeX, simulations, ... (swap-eaters) Thanks! I'll summarize responses, assuming I get some. --David Finton
From: r.daher@csuohio.edu (Rony Daher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! : Video problems! Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 06:26:11 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Message-ID: <46pjau$7kk@csu-b.csuohio.edu> Hello all, I recently switched video cards to a Cirrus Logic 54xx VLBUS 1MB RAM video card. When I installed NSFIP 3.3's Cirrus Logic driver, and rebooted , the system said that it couldn't initialize the system at 1024x768 @ 60Hz Refresh. At this point, I cannot see anything on my screen but a bunch of 'wavey' lines. I can't make out the login box and in essence, all I can do is boot to single user mode. How can I put the original VGA driver back from single user mode? Also, could this be a monitor problem? The monitor is a plain old SVGA monitor - it may be interlaced, but I can't be all too sure. Any help is appreciated. Please E-Mail or post here. Thanks, Rony Daher Information Services and Technology Cleveland State University EMAIL: r.daher@csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: More reasons not to purchase NEC CD-ROM drives... In-Reply-To: rdl@world.std.com's message of Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:53:56 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Oct26235233@world.std.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 03:52:33 GMT I called NEC today for a major customer that had a serious problem with their NEC 3X CD-ROM. When I told them I was using a UNIX system, they said "We don't support UNIX" I then told him that this was a dual-boot system that had both DOS/UNIX on it. Indeed the problem was with the drive (probably faulty firmware.) He said that the problem wasn't with the drive. I then asked him if I could speak with a supervisor. He hung up on me! Poor performing hardware. Poor (if not rude) service. And overpriced too. To those who are looking for CD-ROM drives for their NS systems, go with Toshiba! Robert In article <RDL.95Oct25215356@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:22314 comp.sys.next.misc:45299 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26058 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: world!rdl From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> <46lb5c$q56@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:53:56 GMT Lines: 45 Send me your full system configuration (motherboard, CPU, BIOS, cards, etc..) and I'll try to assist you. As I said, I am using that drive on my system. The problem is very likely to be elsewhere. Robert In article <46lb5c$q56@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:22298 comp.sys.next.misc:45295 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26041 Path: world!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!kiwi From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Oct 1995 12:39:08 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 23 References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cachalot.cs.tu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote: : I've used and installed quite a few CD-ROM drives for NEXTSTEP systems : and the hands down winner is the Toshiba 3601. It's 4.4X, plays audio : CDs, CD-ROMs, PhotoCD, etc..., and doesn't require a caddy! I'm using a XM-3601TA on a NSI System with NCR53c810 and Symbios Logic driver 3.00 (upgraded today to 3.33). I can't play audio-CDs from within NeXTSTEP. CDPlayer launches but hangs trying to access the CD-ROM. In fact, it hangs so hard, that I can only move the mouse every some seconds. The only way out seems to be ejecting the CD. Then I'm able to kill CDPlayer. Any ideas? Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.emulators.announce,comp.emulators.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CFV: comp.emulators.mac.executor Followup-To: poster Date: 27 Oct 1995 04:48:45 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <12432.24890.791300@uunet.uu.net> References: <44hn8g$q2@rodan.UU.NET> Archive-Name: comp.emulators.mac.executor FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.emulators.mac.executor Newsgroups line: comp.emulators.mac.executor ARDI's Mac emulator, Executor. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Nov 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to one of the proponents. Proponent: Melissa Algeo <melissa@ardi.com> Proponent: Ian Viemeister <vmeister@ios.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: comp.emulators.mac.executor The Executor Interest mailing list has 687 subscribers and a great number of regular posters, and the amount of traffic has become overwhelming. When the idea of a newsgroup arose, an interest poll was floated on the list, the results of which showed that the great majority of respondents desired to move to a newsgroup. Comp.emulators.misc is a topically appropriate forum which already contains some Executor traffic, however, the volume of Executor discussion in the mailing list far exceeds what would be appropriate in comp.emulators.misc. Much of the Executor Interest mailing list discussion revolves around specific aspects of Executor, and the amount of this traffic could inadvertently squelch the discussion of emulation technology in general. Members of the Executor user community who lack access to Usenet will continue to be served by a mirroring of the Usenet group to the mailing list and vice versa. CHARTER: comp.emulators.mac.executor Comp.emulators.mac.executor is for general discussion of ARDI's Executor software Macintosh emulator. Executor users and potential users are encouraged to discuss Executor bugs and workarounds and to share tips for getting Executor to work properly with specific hardware and/or software. ARDI will post announcements of new versions, and provide other help when possible. Criticism, advice, and mutual user assistance are all expected and encouraged. Advertisements and off-topic postings are forbidden, as is the posting of encoded binaries or any information on obtaining pirated software. The group will be gatewayed with mailing list Executor Interest, executor@nacm.com END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@ntrs.com Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message must contain one and only one of the following vote statements for each group: I vote YES on comp.emulators.mac.executor I vote NO on comp.emulators.mac.executor You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL. These votes are not counted in the results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result. Names are required for this vote. The counting software will extract your name from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following statement and add your name (on the same line). Voter name: Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY. If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account; duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote. THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE. Names, addresses, and votes will be published in a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be anonymous votes. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists: executor@nacm.com (posting address) executor-request@nacm.com (subscription address)
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? Date: 26 Oct 1995 13:35:56 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <46o2rs$nf3@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) wrote: > > PDFViewer expired...where are the PDF applications now? So far there should always be a working version of PDFViewer in ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Text/apps/ (you'll find the other two PDF viewers there too) The version there as of today (26.Oct95) is 0.75 and will expire in a few days. You could get version 0.78 from ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/droege/ which will run until end of November. It's not yet at the PEANUTS archive as I might put there some even newer version within the next (remaining) days. Detlev PS: v0.75 crashed when closing a document window - this and some other bugs are fixed since 0.77. Also it now displays the PDF files on the SIGGRAPH'95 CD-ROM. OmniPDF has some trouble with those.) Disclaimer: I'm the author of PDFViewer -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
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From: tremblay_michel@tandem.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for French.reader Files Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:13:38 GMT Organization: Tandem Computers,Inc. (Austin, TX) Sender: tremblay_michel@tandem.com Message-ID: <951027101338.235AAEYJ.pmt@a22459> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: French.reader, software, Librarian Bonjour all, I'm presently looking for French.reader Files for the Digital Librarian. I've got some French texts containing diacritic characters that need to be indexed. Unfortunately, Digital Librarian crash everytime I try to index them with the default /NextLibrary/Readers/English.reader. I supposed there must be the proper French reader available somewhere. Thanks. Michel. Pierre-Michel Tremblay | Email: tremblay_michel@tandem.com Tandem Computers Canada Ltd | NS 3.3 FIP. 2000, ave du college McGill | NeXT and MIME mail ok. Bureau 800 | Voice: 514/282-3123 Montreal, Quebec H3A 3H3 | Fax: 514/282-6349
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I enable swapfile compression on TurboColor? Date: 27 Oct 1995 16:29:10 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <46r1cm$3im@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <46pigk$o5s@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm seeking answers to virtual memory questions for black hardware. In an earlier article I wrote: >The NeXT Release Notes page "OperatingSystem.rtf" states that >swapfile compression is automatically enabled for systems with >low memory, and that it is a good idea where the CPU is fast >relative to the I/O. It's less of a good idea where the system >is a server, especially for compiling or image serving. But the >page goes on to say that the compression ratio may be higher for >a single-user color workstation with many on-screen windows. I just noticed that the man page for swaptab claims that compression is on by default! This contradicts the Release Notes page that I quoted above, which says that compression is *off* by default for systems with > 16 MB RAM (or > 12 for mono). Which is right? If it matters, I have NS 3.2. Does the existence of swapfile.front on my system mean compression is enabled? If so, it must be pretty inefficient, since swapfile and swapfile.front have the same apparent size. If disk space is limited, will the OS turn on compression? I have a mono system with 32 MB RAM, but only 43 MB free on disk. Swapfile is at 16 MB, but swapfile.front shows up as 310 MB. The swaptab doesn't say compression, though. Also, I tried booting my TurboColor with "bsd- nbu=254", which gives 254 buffers (of what, exactly?) instead of the 204 buffers I was getting. And the system *seems* noticeably zippier and crisper. Can anyone explain why this might be? Thanks in advance! David Finton
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: imagemap editing tool for NS Date: 27 Oct 1995 18:42:22 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <46r96e$clq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <46fors$h1j@midgard.calvacom.fr> kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr writes: >Hi, >Is there any WYSIWYG ImageMap editing tool for NS? >Thanks, >Kamal. I'm working on one, between other things. It's my first NEXTSTEP programming project, so it may need CPR before use :-). I'll put an alpha version on our FTP site: ftp://gecko.dave-world.net/pub/NMLtd/Tools/IsMap.app -- Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd. P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801 steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: console message -- overrun? SOLVED! Message-ID: <94C1903001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 27 Oct 95 11:25:00 EDT It seems the error was in not using /dev/cufa, which I had been using (based on some excellent advice) but I was having some problems with the flow control. Since I wasn't sure if it was the hardware or software flow control, I figured I'd turn them both off. It seems to be working OK now at 38400 (I haven't gone back to 57600 yet, although I may try it once PPP comes back). This leads me to another question, which I will post separately. Thanks for all those who sent replies TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Telling the difference (38400 vs 57600) Message-ID: <F2C2903001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 27 Oct 95 11:30:00 EDT I'm not sure which group to post this to, so I'll start here. I've been on an Ethernet network for the past 4 years. Now, using Steven Perkins great PPP, I can connect my NeXT to the 'net. I love PPP, but it still seems slow (compared to Ethernet, obviously it is slower). But I am wondering if my serial port is actually transferring at 38400 when I set it to that, or 57600 when I set it to that. They both seem equally slow, and I don't know of any real way to check to see what the actual transfer speed is. I see possibilities for problems in these two area: - something is not setup right on my NeXTStation to allow it to operate through /dev/cufa at 38400 or 57600 - my cheesy school provided PPP line does allow me to run at this higher speed (it's an old line) How can I check? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Telling the difference (38400 vs 57600) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DH4Fw3.B9I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 19:09:39 GMT References: <F2C2903001A23A7C@-smf-> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <F2C2903001A23A7C@-smf->, LUOMA,TIMOTHY <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote: > >I'm not sure which group to post this to, so I'll start here. > >I've been on an Ethernet network for the past 4 years. Now, using Steven >Perkins great PPP, I can connect my NeXT to the 'net. I love PPP, but it >still seems slow (compared to Ethernet, obviously it is slower). > >But I am wondering if my serial port is actually transferring at 38400 >when I set it to that, or 57600 when I set it to that. They both seem >equally slow, and I don't know of any real way to check to see what the >actual transfer speed is. > YOu could try ftping the same file and see what the difference is. At what speed is the physical modem connection? >I see possibilities for problems in these two area: >- something is not setup right on my NeXTStation to allow it to operate >through /dev/cufa at 38400 or 57600 > You should only have to change the parameters to pppd. >- my cheesy school provided PPP line does allow me to run at this higher >speed (it's an old line) > The only effect the other end can have on you is what modem it has (and thus what the physical speed is, what type of compression is used, etc. I've tried some simple tests with a 14.4 physical link and my non-Turbo cube. I got approximately the same feeling of performance for 38400 and 57600, but ftp showed about a 2% speed loss at 57600. My guess is that the data wasn't being comrpessed beyond 38400 and the extra-quick interrupts were killing me at 57600. i can tell you that use of the machine felt much more sluggish at 57600 while transfferring data than it did at 38400. Once my other end gets 28.8 modems installed I'll do some more testing. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jklinke@ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems with ZIP drive Date: 27 Oct 1995 21:01:06 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <46rhai$7cp@news2.ucsd.edu> I'm trying to format a 100MB ZIP disk (originally DOS formatted) with NeXT's format, but after a short while it is ejected with an alert panel saying the disk cannot be initialized. I know I've seen the question posted here before, but I just don't remember the solution. Thanks, jk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Telling the difference (38400 vs 57600) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DH53wy.ELL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 03:48:34 GMT References: <F2C2903001A23A7C@-smf-> <DH4Fw3.B9I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <DH4Fw3.B9I@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > I've tried some simple tests with a 14.4 physical link and my non-Turbo >cube. I got approximately the same feeling of performance for 38400 and 57600, >but ftp showed about a 2% speed loss at 57600. My guess is that the >data wasn't being comrpessed beyond 38400 and the extra-quick interrupts were >killing me at 57600. i can tell you that use of the machine felt much more >sluggish at 57600 while transfferring data than it did at 38400. Once my >other end gets 28.8 modems installed I'll do some more testing. > Sorry to follow up to my own post, but I have new info as my university just got its 28.8 modems happening. ftping PostScript with a serial port rate of 38400 I get about 2.3k/s; with 57600 I get about 3.5k/s. However, at 57600 the mouse movement is very sluggish and jerky and some keystrokes get lost. YMMV. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problems with ZIP drive Date: 28 Oct 1995 03:30:42 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <46s852$d0n@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <46rhai$7cp@news2.ucsd.edu> In article <46rhai$7cp@news2.ucsd.edu>, Jochen Klinke <jklinke@ucsd.edu> wrote: >I'm trying to format a 100MB ZIP disk (originally DOS formatted) with >NeXT's format, but after a short while it is ejected with an alert panel >saying the disk cannot be initialized. I know I've seen the question >posted here before, but I just don't remember the solution. > >Thanks, >jk Format it as a MAC disk, then re-init to NEXT. e -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: ramseyj2@pell4l14.alleg.edu (Jason Ramsey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIFF to IFF? Date: 28 Oct 1995 15:21:05 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> Hello, world! I own an Amiga 4000, but my college uses NeXT cubes. Is there a way I can convert NeXT TIFF formatted graphics to Amiga IFF or at least something else readable by my computer (GIF, JPEG)? I'm thinking NeXT OR Amiga shareware on Aminet or similar NeXT sites. If not, is there a commercial program for either system that would do the job? Jason Ramsey ramseyj2@alleg.edu Amiga 4000/030 Amiga: "The Computer for the Creative Mind" (Commodore Advertising) NeXT: "Pretty damn awesome, too." (me)
From: arsaellb@ifi.uio.no (Arsaell Benediktsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: parity checking? Date: 28 Oct 1995 15:01:06 GMT Organization: Informatikk Message-ID: <46tgji$7ln@ratatosk.uio.no> Do I have to put the DRAM PARITY CHECKING on in cmos? What happens if I dont have any parity checking on my computer system? please email me!! arsaellb@ifi.uio.no thank you
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: TIFF to IFF? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DH62J2.MCG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 16:16:14 GMT References: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu>, Jason Ramsey <ramseyj2@pell4l14.alleg.edu> wrote: > Hello, world! > > I own an Amiga 4000, but my college uses NeXT cubes. Is there a >way I can convert NeXT TIFF formatted graphics to Amiga IFF or at least >something else readable by my computer (GIF, JPEG)? I'm thinking NeXT OR >Amiga shareware on Aminet or similar NeXT sites. If not, is there a >commercial program for either system that would do the job? > I believe PixelMagician will do it on the NeXT; there is a pbmplus converted to IFF ILBM as well. I haven't looked for a TIFF decoder on Aminet, but ADPro would do the job. I think it's pretty cheap nowdays too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Telling the difference (38400 vs 57600) Date: 28 Oct 1995 17:33:51 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <46tphv$q1t@news.its.com> References: <F2C2903001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) wrote: > I've been on an Ethernet network for the past 4 years. Now, using Steven > Perkins great PPP, I can connect my NeXT to the 'net. I love PPP, but it > still seems slow (compared to Ethernet, obviously it is slower). Ethernet has a maximum transfer rate of about 1 MB per second. A 28.8 modem transfers data at slightly under 3 K per second, which is over 300 times slower. > But I am wondering if my serial port is actually transferring at 38400 > when I set it to that, or 57600 when I set it to that. They both seem > equally slow, and I don't know of any real way to check to see what the > actual transfer speed is. Get kermit from the FTP archives. You can try connecting at different speeds by doing a "set speed 38400" or whatever, and then entering "c". If you can send modem commands (such as "at" and getting an OK back), you've connected sucessfully at that speed. To verify, you could dial out to the remote end and examine what the "sucessful connection" message shows. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: kschulz@ba-stuttgart.de (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: 29 Oct 1995 09:23:10 GMT Organization: Berufsakademie Stuttgart Distribution: world Message-ID: <46vh5u$9r9@news.belwue.de> References: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> <cpayne.63.3089B8FD@fiber.net> <46uer6$p26@neptune.ethz.ch> Daniel Gerald Kluge (daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch) wrote: > : >I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using > : >NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering > : >if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. > Hmm.. in raw processing-power, a 486-66Mhz System outperforms a NeXTStation > by the factor 1.7, but that's not the issue here. (no rants about PC-System > Design this time) > We run a Web-Server on a NeXT-Station 25MHz with 20MB RAM, and it works very > well, even as we use the machine as an NFS Server AND work on the console. > I never had any troubles with the cern server, opposed to the NFS part, > because the Solaris Clients bitch, that there is no lockd (usual flame on > standing Bugs under NeXTSTEP ommited) > -daniel > -- > Daniel G. Kluge - President VIS / Rechner-Administration > E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ] Oh I had problems with the4 cern server. I can't shutdown the machine normally when the cern server is running. I have to shut it down as root from a shell window. A normal log out is impossible... Give a man a fish: feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish: feed him for life. Teach a hundred men to fish: empty the lake of fish. Kay Schulz kay@cordis.lu
From: altenber@santafe.santafe.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to get TeXmenu.app licence? Date: 29 Oct 1995 09:25:42 GMT Organization: The Santa Fe Institute Message-ID: <46vham$3he@tierra.santafe.edu> I would like to buy a licence for TeXmenu.app, but Harald Schlangmann, schlangm@informatik.uni-muenchen.de, seems to have disappeared, as his e-mail host seems to have disappeared. Can anyone send me his e-mail address? Or, how else can I get the software licensed? Thanks, Lee Altenberg altenber@mhpcc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1742 "enhanced" mode? Message-ID: <DH5EMx.F6@cicero.ping.de> Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <rfenney-251095235130@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 07:40:09 GMT In article <rfenney-251095235130@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) writes: > In article <24OCT199516455051@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, > okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) wrote: > > > When we installed NEXTSTEP 3.2 some while ago, my understanding > > was that the only available driver for the Adaptec 1742 > > EISA SCSI adapter required that the card be in the less- > > capable "normal" mode rather than the "enhanced" mode. > > Has this situation changed? That is, can I find a driver > > for 3.2 which will let the 1742 operate in "enhanced" mode? > > > > I suppose the second part of the question might be, "What > > difference would it make?" I believe that under DOS, the 1742 > > only achieves the full SCSI-II speed in enhanced mode. Is this > > also true under NEXTSTEP? > > I would love one of these drivers as well! Yes, me too. Since I do not only have NS on my machine it gets more difficult. Linux e.g. _refuses_ to use the 1740 in standard mode. -dirk --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Dirk Olmes Black Box * * dirk@cicero.ping.de NeXT-Club Schwerte * * (NeXT-Mail please) Germany * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to license Appsoft Draw? Date: 29 Oct 1995 14:36:03 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Message-ID: <4703gj$faq@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I've downloaded a copy of Appsoft Draw onto my NextStation running NextStep 3.0. I would like to license this program so that I can save and print my documents. I tried to contact Mr. Seymour at Appsoft <pseymour@appsoft.com> who according to the documentation which comes with Appsoft Draw is the Director of Sales there, but my e-mail got returned. Does anyone have any information about Appsoft and how I could license Appsoft Draw? Thank you very much!
From: stabl@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to get TeXmenu.app licence? Date: 29 Oct 1995 16:35:27 +0100 Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <4706vv$rp@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <46vham$3he@tierra.santafe.edu> altenber@santafe.santafe.edu (Lee Altenberg) writes: >I would like to buy a licence for TeXmenu.app, but Harald Schlangmann, >schlangm@informatik.uni-muenchen.de, >seems to have disappeared, as his e-mail host seems to have disappeared. >Can anyone send me his e-mail address? Or, how else can I get the >software licensed? Thanks, The mail host for informatik.uni-muenchen.de had some problems this weekend. So if it was this weekend you just should resend your mail. And, I got email from Harald this weekend. So he seems still to be reachable. Robert. PS: A good way to ask for people normally is to send mail to postmaster@... -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Dept. of Computer Science stabl@leo.org University of Munich http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 Germany FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Stolen equipment, Vancouver BC Message-ID: <DH7zLq.E8B@prosoft.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 17:08:13 GMT Stolen in the Vancouver BC area: Next Cube Serial Number AAK0004265 with Monitor, keyboards, mouse, and modem. If you have information about this system, call (604) 324-3311. -- Glen Biagioni ProSoft Solutions Inc. glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail Welcome) Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)324-9431
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: screensaver Message-ID: <AE7D933001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 29 Oct 95 13:12:00 CDT I think the dwrites you are looking for are: dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim X where X is a time interval. I might also suggest: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/screen/TimeToBlack.s.ta r.gz This was made for NS 3.1 (but works under 3.2 at least) which will add two dwrites: dwrite loginwindow TimeToBlack and TimeToMove (The screen will actually only blacken after the first TimeToMove increment that comes after TimeToBlack has elapsed.) I set these values very low, so that if the Login panel is up for any length of time, the screen saver comes on, and then the screen goes black (thus, I rationalize, putting less strain on my monitor) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: "G. Hussain Chinoy" <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT as a Web Server? Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 03:32:20 -0500 Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA Message-ID: <30949BA4.315E@artsci.wustl.edu> References: <4698nm$3j9@gypsy.iisys.com> <46odfb$spv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya, I'm running our webserver (NCSA 1.4+) on a P5/60 w/ NEXTSTEP 3.2. I've only had problems with the forking opt (I've turned it off) and we get a very nice response time with it serving http docs and cgi's. Previously, I had NCSA's HTTPD (initial version - 1.4) on our NeXT 040/33 (3.0 - 3.2) and it was just as stable. No problems to report what so ever :) __________________________________________________________ ___ G. Hussain Chinoy /\__\ Internet Information Systems, Postmaster, & Webmaster \/__/ Arts & Sciences Computing NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis net hussain@artsci.wustl.edu 314/935-4253 vox web http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/ 314/935-5799 fax Brian W. Spolarich wrote: > > dguthrie@iisys.com wrote: > : I'm currently running my web server from a 486-40 (20mb) Linux system using > : NCSA httpd v1.4. I own a NeXT Cube (Black hardware 68040-25MHz) and was wondering > : if this machine would be better (faster) than my current Linux machine. > > I had a NeXT Turbo (040/33/16MB) I was using as an HTTP server for a > while. The only problems that I had with 3.2 was that the response > time wasn't really exciting, and that occasionally, the httpd > instances would fail to exit properly, eventually choking the > machine. > > I suspect the tradeoffs would probably put the Linux box ahead, > depending on the robustness of your PC's supporting architecture. > You could run a load comparison and see. I'd be curious to know > the results. > >=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+ = > Brian W. Spolarich briansp@umich.edu > Gale Research
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicago: Objective C Developers Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 10:45:57 PDT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.25634.815078853.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers Salary commenurate with experience, 40-100K Plus bonus. Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next development tools The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should have the following skills: 1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously 2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations 3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities Knowledge of one of the following: - Financial Derivatives Business - Currency Options Pricing - Risk Management - Interest Rate Derivatives Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc P-708.357.9400 F-708.357.9400
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Pinnacle Micro RCD-1000 How to? Date: 30 Oct 1995 16:15:57 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <472tnt$ff3@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <472poo$t4a@ra.nrl.navy.mil> In article <472poo$t4a@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, John Michopoulos <yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil> wrote: >Is there anywhere information on how to connect the Recordable CD drive by >Pinnacle Micro on an NeXT (black or Intel) and expect it to work? The >documentation in the box contains info only on connecting it with a >PC-DOS-Windows environments. I have a Pinnacle RCD-1000 CD-Recorder connected on my intel system running NEXTSTEP. It basically appears as a CD-ROM to the computer under NEXTSTEP. As far as I know, there is no way to use it except from within Windows. In many ways, it's actually better to just use it from Windows, since the process of making CDs is not something meant for a multitasking OS. The CD Recorder has to have a constant stream of data being fed to it, and any glitches while the hard drive accesses some other data or does a tcal can cause buffer underruns and corrupt the CD being created. Even in Windows, it's best to quit all other programs running and not use the computer for any other purpose other than for the making the CD during that time. CDs have to be written all at one time, and the only exception to this (write to a disc, stop, and write to it again at a later time) is to separate each write into a different "session". A session has to have about 4-5 megs of blank space at the beginning or end to separate it from other sessions. Finally, the CD is recorded by a high-intensity laser that physically writes permanently onto special recordable discs. It's a WORM process. So for those of you thinking that a CD recorder would be the ideal removable random-access solution, think again - magneto-optical or ZIP disks are much better for that purpose. Think of a CD recorder more as a tape drive for archival storage. Varun
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: perl5.001m Date: 30 Oct 1995 16:26:35 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <472ubr$i4@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Trying to install perl5.001m on m68k running 4.0alpha. This is all standard C stuff, but I can't get it to install. I get: `sh cflags libperl.a doio.o` doio.c CCCMD = cc -c -O doio.c: In function `apply': doio.c:1124: storage size of `utbuf' isn't known During Configure, it seemed to find everything and so forth. What is wrong? -- - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 30 Oct 1995 05:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <471n0v$6i4@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: perl5.001m Date: 30 Oct 1995 17:25:49 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4731qt$oe4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <472ubr$i4@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> At one point during the Configure it finds utimes() but the hints file for next3 suggests an undefined value. My suggestion would be to keep it undefined as I suspect that NeXT's utimes() doesn't use the utbuf data structure (which is causeing you compile error). It should compile just fine with this modification. woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) writes: >doio.c:1124: storage size of `utbuf' isn't known > >During Configure, it seemed to find everything and so forth. What is >wrong? -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO NeXT System Administrator, CCSO Sites Technical Support "Are they as successful as who,Microsoft? Only drug lords from South America are as successful as Microsoft." -Tim Byars, on the success of NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: borek (Borek Lupomesky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to IFF? Date: 29 Oct 1995 20:34:54 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <470ohf$8m5@ns.felk.cvut.cz> References: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> In <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> Jason Ramsey wrote: > I own an Amiga 4000, but my college uses NeXT cubes. Is there a > way I can convert NeXT TIFF formatted graphics to Amiga IFF or at least > something else readable by my computer (GIF, JPEG)? I'm thinking NeXT OR > Amiga shareware on Aminet or similar NeXT sites. If not, is there a > commercial program for either system that would do the job? There is something called Image Viewer - the basic graphical viewer convertor. You can find it on peanuts.leo.org (e.g.) Bye Borek -- =-=-=[ Borek's NeXTSTEP Internet-connected home workstation ]-=-=-= Borek Lupomesky | lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz | Fido: 2:423/71 Usti nad Labem | http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk | NeST: 90:1200/1 CZECH REPUBLIC | IRC: BorekL (#cs) | BBS: +42-47-40051 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: cap@ifi.unizh.ch (Clemens Cap) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Workshop Workstations Date: 30 Oct 1995 19:53:26 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik IFI Message-ID: <473afm$hin@bioko.ifi.unizh.ch> CALL FOR PAPERS: Workshop Workstations SIWORK'96 " Workstations and their applications " May 14 and 15, 1996 Department of Computer Science University of Zurich Topic: ====== The increasing demand for computing services in science, research, administration, industry, and commerce as well as for private purposes requires suitable hardware and software tools, user interfaces, application programs, and detailed training in these areas. Personally assigned computers, independent of their respective power and name (workstation, personal computer, home computer) thus are gaining more and more importance. Connected with this development is a complex and very heterogeneous bundle of questions from ergonomic aspects to electronic aspects, dealing with questions of system architecture and configuration. Common topic of all these questions is the workstation. A two days conference at the University of Zurich will deal with these questions on May 14 and 15, 1996. The program consists of invited talks of well-known experts, discussions between users and vendors, product presentations and, most important, contributions of the participants. Contributions for the following topics are sought: ** Operation, organization and use of workstations and workstation-networks in homogeneous as well as in heterogeneous environments. ** System and network management in workstation networks. ** Integration of workstations into business processes ** Distributed applications on workstation networks ** Workstations in Internet and World Wide Web ** Security in workstation networks ** Workstations as multi-media and virtual reality platforms ** Architecture of workstation systems ** ``Mobile Computing'' We are looking for two categories of contributions: ** Scientific papers: These contributions consist of a maximum of 12 pages and describe completed work in the traditional form of scientific publications. ** Project reports: These contributions consist of a maximum of 4 pages and allow users and practitioners to provide information on ongoing work and projects. The contributions should be written in German or English and shall be send as hard copy or in electronic form (postscript level 2) per e-mail to the chairman. Deadline for submission is January 8, 1996. The preferred typesetting systems are LaTeX (recommended: Springer Lecture Notes Style llncs.sty, available by ftp from claude.ifi.unizh.ch or from the chairman) or MS Word. The contributions of the participants will be published in a book of proceedings. Program Committee: ================== C. Cap University of Zurich H. Eberle ETH Zurich B. Gennart EPF Lausanne W. Gentzsch FH Regensburg & Genias GmbH A. Gunzinger ETH Zurich S. Jarpe CERN C. Mueller-Schloer University of Hannover C. Rowen Silicon Graphics F. Schlepuetz Paul Scherrer Institute D. Tavangarian University of Rostock The conference takes place at the Department of Computer Science of the University of Zurich, in collaboration with the Swiss Computing Society SI and the special interest group APS on workstations of the German Computing Society GI and the Society for Information Technology ITG. It is part of the biannual series of workshops of the APS special interest group. Deadlines: ========== Submission of contributions January 8, 1996 Submission of exhibitions February 1, 1996 Note of acceptance February 15, 1996 Camera ready copy March 8, 1996 Conference May 14 and 15, 1996 Exhibition: =========== At the conference there will be an exhibition on workstations. Books, journals, workstations, hardware and software solutions will be presented. If you are interested in participating at the exhibition, please contact the chairman. Special Interest Group: ======================= Within the special interest group which will be founded at the conference, the following activities are planned: ** Conferences: Workshops and conferences will be organized together with the German special interest group on workstations. By addressing a larger number of persons a high quality of the conference can be maintained. The different topics, which are of importance in connection with workstations, can be addressed at a single conference. ** Network: An information and communication network consisting of an e-mail list, a WWW and ftp server as well as a Usenet newsgroup will be set up. The goal is the distribution of information to the members of the special interest group and an archive of scientific and product information. Apart form technical and organizational topics also a market for jobs and used equipment is planned. ** Coordination of research: The infrastructure of the special interest group shall aid in the coordination of the research activities of its members. By exploiting synergies, proposing and realising projects shall be made easier. By presenting and coordinating projects, unnecessary redundancies shall be avoided. ** Coordination of teaching: The special interest group supports the coordination of lectures and courses and helps with reusing educational material. "Teaching" means not only academic training but industrial and vocational training, as well. ** Coordination of infrastructure: The special interest group coordinates the available infrastructure to larger units, when this is required for research purposes. ** Workshops and courses: According to the demand of the members, the special interest group organizes workshops, courses, and simmer schools on various topics. Membership in the special interest group: ========================================= Membership in the special interest group is open to all natural and juristic persons who are interested in the topic and are members of the Swiss Computing Society SI or a different computing society with which the SI has an agreement on mutual membership in special interest groups. The members of the special interest group enjoy reductions on the fees for all activities. They have access to the information and communication network of the special interest group and can publish in the electronic media of the group. Target Group: ============= The conference and the special interest group is addressed to persons and companies who are configuring and administrating workstations, planning their use or employing them in their daily work. Furthermore to persons and companies performing research and development for workstations, to persons who manufacture and sell workstations or who offer services and consult on workstations. Foundation: =========== On the first day of the conference the special interest group on workstations of the Swiss Computing Society SI is founded. Persons interested in this special interest group shall contact the chairman. Chairman: ========= Prof. Dr. Clemens H. Cap Institut fuer Informatik Universitaet Zuerich Winterthurerstrasse 190 CH-8057 Zuerich Tel. +41 -- 1 -- 257 / 4326 (4331) Fax. +41 -- 1 -- 363 0035 e-mail cap@ifi.unizh.ch Electronic Registration: ======================== Further information can be found on http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/groups/cap/conferences/workshop.html At this location you can register electronically for the conference and hand in your contribution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration by e-mail: ======================= If you are interested in this conference, please fill out the following form and return it by e-mail to cap@ifi.unizh.ch Name: Address: Telephone: e-mail: Please indicate: ---------------- O Interested to participate at the conference O Interested to present a talk at the conference Please provide the topic of the talk: Category of the talk: Scientific paper / project report O Interested in the special interest group on workstations O Interested to participate at the exhibition: Please provide a short description of the exhibition: --- Prof. Clemens H. 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From: kermit@infi.net (Kermit Woodall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to IFF? Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 29 Oct 1995 02:29:31 GMT Organization: InfiNet Message-ID: <46uoub$et1@news.infi.net> References: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> Jason Ramsey (ramseyj2@pell4l14.alleg.edu) wrote: : I own an Amiga 4000, but my college uses NeXT cubes. Is there a : way I can convert NeXT TIFF formatted graphics to Amiga IFF or at least : something else readable by my computer (GIF, JPEG)? I'm thinking NeXT OR : Amiga shareware on Aminet or similar NeXT sites. If not, is there a : commercial program for either system that would do the job? You'll want our ImageFX package. It has the most comprehensive support of TIFF on the Amiga, and can convert to nearly any other format. Since the TIFF module is included in the complete ImageFX package, you won't have to buy anything extra either. Kermit Woodall Nova Design, Inc. Kermit@cup.portal.com --
From: fad@zoo.bt.co.uk (Francisco de Carvalho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad Date: 30 Oct 1995 15:22:07 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <472qiv$38b@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an IBM Thinkpad 755CD and am having some problems installing NeXTSTEP on it. It has a slip-on/off CD and floppy drive (which I can change) or, I can try and boot over the network. The Ethernet PCMCIA card I have is IBMs Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II with version 2.01 of the drivers. Has anyone out there succeeded with this or was a different ethernet card used. Any suggestions would be welcome. Please reply to fad@zoo.bt.co.uk Thanks, Francisco -- --------------------------------------------------------------- F A de Carvalho Intelligence Software Systems BT Labs Telephone +44 1473 642368 B67 / Room G11 Fax +44 1473 637614 Martlesham Heath Mobile (UK) 0850 775383 Ipswich IP5 7RE, UK
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Pinnacle Micro RCD-1000 How to? Date: 30 Oct 1995 15:08:08 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <472poo$t4a@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Is there anywhere information on how to connect the Recordable CD drive by Pinnacle Micro on an NeXT (black or Intel) and expect it to work? The documentation in the box contains info only on connecting it with a PC-DOS-Windows environments. I would greatly appreciate any help Thanks Immensely, --jm ------------------------------------------------------------------- |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Code 6380 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil |
From: eric@bio11.alleg.edu (Eric Pallant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: bibliographic database Date: 31 Oct 1995 16:11:04 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <475hqo$f1q@speering.alleg.edu> Hello, About once a year I search for a NeXT application that will do what an IBM application called Notebook/Bibliography did for me 6 years ago. I'm looking for an electronic notecard system; a system that would have slots for entering all the appropriate bibliographic data for a reference(author, journal, volume, pages, year, etc.), slots for keywords, and then a large notecard where I could keep notes on the article I was reading. I could then search and sort through hundreds of these notecards by author, keyword, year, journal, or whatever. Is there anything out there? Eric Pallant. Please post directly to my e-mail. epallant@alleg.edu Thanks in advance.
From: asr@access.kuwait.net (Ahmad Al-Rasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Some info please on NextStep..thanx. Date: 31 Oct 1995 18:35:01 GMT Organization: Gulfnet Kuwait Message-ID: <475q8l$1ut@gulfa.kuwait.net> I need some info on the OS (NexStep 4.0 for the Intel) please. - Is there a GUI archie, ftp, Mosaic ? - If so, are they in binary format ! kina expensive to pay $ 5K for dev. - If I am to skip the $ 5K dev kit; is there a free C compiler ? - what about a free X server ? - Finally, is it worth $ 800 as aposed to my free Linux ? Please e-mail since I seldom get access to a news server. Thanx.
Date: 1 Nov 1995 00:58:20 GMT From: xdtp@python.viper.net (DTP Products) Message-ID: <cancel.47642a$kuk@python.viper.net> Newsgroups: control,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <47642a$kuk@python.viper.net> Control: cancel <47642a$kuk@python.viper.net> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cube SN? Message-ID: <1995Oct29.102808.16738@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU (GENE ZIMMERMAN) Date: 29 Oct 95 10:28:08 MST Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! My cube's SN is AAK0000045, does that mean it's the 45'th cube to be made? BTW, how many were made, anyway? Thanks, Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu p.s. I'm still looking for a DHCP client for NeXT...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: background & background tiffs Message-ID: <DHAqHt.LFI@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <A9E48F3001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 04:44:16 GMT LUOMA,TIMOTHY (476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu) wrote: : 1) I am looking for TIFF files large enough to use as backgrounds on my : NeXTStation (mono) KPT Power Photos 500 high-resolution images in RGB TIFF format are well worth the $100. These files are typically in the 8-15MB range in size. It's an 11-CD pack! These are full color; so I am not sure if you can justify the expense for your mono system. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | NeXTMail read, but not spoken >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for color clip art ><
From: borek (Borek Lupomesky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems with swap Date: 1 Nov 1995 08:09:16 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4779vc$r7q@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Hi folks! I have approx 20 MB free on my NeXTSTEP partition. Problem is, that after some time working the 20 MB is eaten by swapfile. The only thing I can do is to reboot the machine. Does anyone know about some utility, that can shake swapfile down without reboot? Bye Borek -- =-=-=[ Borek's NeXTSTEP Internet-connected home workstation ]-=-=-= Borek Lupomesky | lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz | Fido: 2:423/71 Usti nad Labem | http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk | NeST: 90:1200/1 CZECH REPUBLIC | IRC: BorekL (#cs) | BBS: +42-47-40051 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: newsmaster@arzana.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:38:10 GMT Organization: Arzana Limited Sender: news@arzana.co.uk Message-ID: <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> In article <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> root (Borek Lupomesky) writes: > In <468uim$1e3@agate.berkeley.edu> Stephen Shiboski wrote: > > Has anyone been using a 28.8 modem with a NeXT box? As far as > > I can tell, available fax software (i.e. NXfax) does not > > support the faster modems. Also, I'm curious about just how > > much speed the NeXT serial ports will support. > > Yeah, me, for example. I use my NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.3 with USRobotics > DS V.34+ modem. On 33600 connect I achieved approx. 3650 cps. Which > isn't that bad I think. > > Bye Borek My US Robotics Courier V34+ modem works fine at 28.8K from NEXTSTEP 3.3 Intel. Serial line speed at 57.6K using the Serial Drivers 3.3 from NeXT. I believe that the new version of MUX allows you to lock the serial lines at an incredible 110K (Not tried it yet though). Don't suppose anyone knows whether or not a US Robotics Courier V34+ modem is in any way compatible with NXFax ? later, Andrew --- Andrew D. Forkes
From: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu (Uri Sarid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: dialing in to my 28.8 Boca modem Date: 1 Nov 1995 21:41:35 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <478pig$ov2@news.nd.edu> I just purchased a Boca 28.8 modem to be used with my NS 3.3 Pentium system. The modem sits on COM port A. I'm running NXFax, so there's an entry in gettytab put there by the NXFax installer which reads # NXFax dialup on port A NXFaxA:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:lm=\r\n%h modem login\72 :sp#38400: but the same problem below happens if I don't have NXFax running and instead just use the gettytab entry (by changing and turning on an entry in ttys). The fax works great both ways: in particular, the modem will answer and receive fax calls. The problem is this: when I call in to this phone line remotely, namely I place a data call to this phone line, hoping to connect to my machine from home, the modem answers and prints out the banner line, then it asks me for my username, but instead of then prompting for a password it prints a few characters of seeming garbage and that's all. No connection, and hitting my password or any other keystrokes on the dialing-in remote machine does not produce any effect. According to the man page entries, getty does whatever it was told to in the gettytab file, and then hands control to login in order to authenticate the login. Apparently this is where things hang; perhaps a bau rate or parity change occur. Can anyone shed any light on this problem? What should I try next? Thanks very much in advance! Uri Sarid Dept. of Physics University of Notre Dame sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix Subject: Looking for 'Mail-Server' Date: 2 Nov 1995 10:04:45 GMT Organization: Daimler-Benz AG Message-ID: <47a53t$g0m@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I'm looking for a 'mail server' (don't know if that's the right word for what I'm looking for...) program. It should be possible to send mails with a special subject-line or message body to a specific user. After the mail has arrived at the server, the mail-server program should execute specific command on the mailhost: it should execute binaries, automatically send a mail back... Could you point me to the right software? Thanks... .Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us (Terence Liow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MRP (inventory planning) s/w for NS Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:00:30 GMT Organization: Great Basin Internet Services, Reno, NV Distribution: world Message-ID: <479fou$iko@news.greatbasin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone know of a published or (more likely) unpublished programme that does MRP (materials requirement planning) for Next? Much obliged if you can send leads to me at terence@sfsc.com Thanks in advance
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help! My NSIntel machine won't boot correctly Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:53:45 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <479isp$msd@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> For some reason my machine (a 486 ASUS mb w/NCR810 scsi onboard) has quit booting automatically. The system crashed this afternoon, and when I rebooted, I got to n(NeXTStep) d(DOS), partion 1,...4 When I hit n, the screen blanked, then PRESS ANY KEY TO REBOOT appeared at the top of the screen. I used the installation floppy to boot the system back up, and it worked fine with: boot:sd()mach_kernel The system booted up without any problems, except that I had to do the same thing even after fsck had "fixed" the disk. I tried replacing the boot sector, but that didn't help. (Anyway, it seems to work, it's the next part with "boot:" that's broken) Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
From: Norton Truter <nut@xedoc.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Keeping .rtf, .h and .m in line Date: 2 Nov 1995 05:32:39 GMT Organization: Emerging Technology Message-ID: <479l5n$6qo@news.mel.aone.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the last week I have seen some documentation on a package which maintains source files for a class (rtf, .h and .m files) as a single entity. However I cannot for the life of me remember what it was... Will somebody PLEASE help a bear with a small brain? NUT ============================================================================== Norton Truter, Senior Software Designer, Emerging Technology Pty. Ltd. e-mail: nut@xedoc.com.au | phone: (61) (3) 9214 0155 | fax: (61) (3) 9214 0151 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If a tree falls in the | "Shhh, it's only in my head" - The Counting Crows forest and no-one is +-------------------------------------------------- watching... can I chop it | "Infinite improbability rating of 1-to-1, up and use it for | normality is restored" firewood?" - Norton Truter | - The Starship Heart of Gold (Douglas Adams) ==============================================================================
From: Norton Truter <nut@xedoc.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where can I get InterfaceViewer? Date: 2 Nov 1995 05:29:59 GMT Organization: Emerging Technology Message-ID: <479l0n$6qo@news.mel.aone.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I get InterfaceViewer (at least a demo for the moment). NeXTanswers has no response real responses. Either Stepwise or NeXTanswers told me about a review in some old mag but NO other details. NUT ============================================================================== Norton Truter, Senior Software Designer, Emerging Technology Pty. Ltd. e-mail: nut@xedoc.com.au | phone: (61) (3) 9214 0155 | fax: (61) (3) 9214 0151 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If a tree falls in the | "Shhh, it's only in my head" - The Counting Crows forest and no-one is +-------------------------------------------------- watching... can I chop it | "Infinite improbability rating of 1-to-1, up and use it for | normality is restored" firewood?" - Norton Truter | - The Starship Heart of Gold (Douglas Adams) ==============================================================================
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Creating 1GB Swapdisk? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Date: 2 Nov 1995 15:56:52 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <47apo4$jsq@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <47a3uq$fup@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ralf Specht (specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM) wrote: : Hi all, : I want to add a 1GB disk as swapdisk to a NeXT System but don't know how : to make it available to the system. man fstab (ach Mist, das gibt's ja gar nicht mehr :-() man swaptab man mach_swapon -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Native NeXT without monitor Date: 2 Nov 1995 16:07:21 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <47aqbp$k24@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <47a4q5$fvp@news.sns-felb.debis.de> <47aq30$k0u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : Ralf Specht (specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM) wrote: : : Hi all, : Kannst Du bitte das englische cross-posten in eine deutsche : newsgroup unterlassen.... Sorry for the german in an englisch newsgroup. This article was crossposted and I did a followup :-( : : I want to use an old, black native NeXT-station without a monitor connected : : to it as print server. Is that posiible? : : Someone told me, that I'll have to connect something to the monitor-port, : : but he couldn't tell me more about it... It is possible when you disable the sound out test in the Boot-Monitor and switch the machine on by connecting Power On and Ground for a short time. Some people say it's not advisable to have the station running without the load of the monitor as switching power supplies may need it. Older cubes won't even come up without the monitor's load. It should be possible to simulate the monitor's load by a shunt resistor (the monitor takes 60 W according to technical data). Usual disclaimers apply. : -- : Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// : Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( : D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / : Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/ -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: cmsg cancel <47aq30$k0u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Control: cancel <47aq30$k0u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: 2 Nov 1995 16:08:15 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <47aqdf$k26@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951028232041.10182A-100000-100000-100000@aaron> Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center References: <46la3p$v8@xpat.postech.ac.kr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: richards@aaron.uucp ("David N. Richards") Subject: screensaver Date: 28 Oct 1995 22:25:13 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world Hi - We're on an m68k NS 3.2 - How does one control the NeXT screensaver that's bundled inside of the loginwindow.app?? I forgot the name of the variable. Thanks for any info. Dave
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Creating 1GB Swapdisk? Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:44:58 GMT Organization: Daimler-Benz AG Message-ID: <47a3uq$fup@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I want to add a 1GB disk as swapdisk to a NeXT System but don't know how to make it available to the system. In the SysAdmin* Notes, there is only a description on how to set up a very small swap disk with the BuildDisk application. Can someone give me a hint? Thanks... .Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Native NeXT without monitor Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:59:33 GMT Organization: Daimler-Benz AG Message-ID: <47a4q5$fvp@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I want to use an old, black native NeXT-station without a monitor connected to it as print server. Is that posiible? Someone told me, that I'll have to connect something to the monitor-port, but he couldn't tell me more about it... Bye... .Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: cmsg cancel <47b555$4kg@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Control: cancel <47b555$4kg@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: 2 Nov 1995 19:11:47 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <47b55j$4kg@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> cancel
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where can I get InterfaceViewer? Date: 2 Nov 1995 07:34:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <479sa4$7h1@digifix.digifix.com> References: <479l0n$6qo@news.mel.aone.net.au> Norton Truter <nut@xedoc.com.au> wrote: > Where can I get InterfaceViewer (at least a demo for the moment). NeXTanswers > has no response real responses. Either Stepwise or NeXTanswers told me about > a review in some old mag but NO other details. > NUT Well, there is a demo of InterfaceViewer on f ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/programming/
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Keeping .rtf, .h and .m in line Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:30:11 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <47a333$rqi@news.xmission.com> References: <479l5n$6qo@news.mel.aone.net.au> Norton Truter <nut@xedoc.com.au> wrote: > In the last week I have seen some documentation on a package > which maintains source files for a class (rtf, .h and .m files) > as a single entity. However I cannot for the life of me > remember what it was... Was it commercial or freeware? There are two free tools that I know of that could help you with this. One is called "autodoc" and can be found in the MiscKit (or in other places) and allows you to store the text of your RTF docs inside your .[hm] files and then automatically generate the docs when release time rolls around. The other is called ClassBuilder and is by Thomas Engel (Tomi) and is available on the major ftp sites (peanuts for sure). It is far from complete, but is still very useful and has a lot of features you might like Both tools are distributed with source code, making them malleable--to fit anyone's particular needs. ;-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: borek (Borek Lupomesky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some info please on NextStep..thanx. Date: 2 Nov 1995 05:40:59 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <479llb$mbv@ns.felk.cvut.cz> References: <475q8l$1ut@gulfa.kuwait.net> In <475q8l$1ut@gulfa.kuwait.net> Ahmad Al-Rasheedan wrote: > - Is there a GUI archie, ftp, Mosaic ? Don't know about archie; ftp: there is Yftp and GatorFTP. Hmmm, i still like classical ftp client. For WWW there is OmniWeb and Netsurfer (and some others). > - If so, are they in binary format ! kina expensive to pay $ 5K for dev. Yeah. > - If I am to skip the $ 5K dev kit; is there a free C compiler ? There is GNU CC, but you must get it in binary form, as you lack any compiler. > - what about a free X server ? I'd be interested in one, too. > - Finally, is it worth $ 800 as aposed to my free Linux ? I have been running Linux for more than year and really enjoyed it, but NeXTSTEP is definitely better. > Please e-mail since I seldom get access to a news server. Ooops, I cannot mail from my NeXT -- somehow all mail gets bounced. Bye Borek -- =-=-=[ Borek's NeXTSTEP Internet-connected home workstation ]-=-=-= Borek Lupomesky | lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz | Fido: 2:423/71 Usti nad Labem | http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk | NeST: 90:1200/1 CZECH REPUBLIC | IRC: Borek (#cs) | BBS: +42-47-40051 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: spai@netcom.com (Suresh Pai) Subject: Disktab entry for Micropolis-1908 (1.6 GB) disk Message-ID: <spaiDHE2sr.J89@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:02:50 GMT Sender: spai@netcom22.netcom.com Hi I am looking for the the disktab entry for Micropolis 1908 (1.6 GB) harddisk. If anyone has it, will you please mail it to me? Thanks suresh email : spai@netcom.com
Message-ID: <4725mi$53r@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany References: <1995Oct9.142309.27877@il.us.swissbank.com> <RDL.95Oct24224809@world.std.com> <RDL.95Oct25215356@world.std.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Help! Which brand CD-ROM drive should I buy Date: 30 Oct 1995 08:25:38 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Distribution: world I wrote : I can't play audio-CDs from within NeXTSTEP. CDPlayer launches but : hangs trying to access the CD-ROM. I must apologize. I had an older version of CDPlayer lying around somewhere in my path. I copied the new version from the 3.3 CD and now it works fine. Sorry for the bandwidth and the confusion. The Toshiba XM3601TA is a very nice drive. Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: modem question Message-ID: <0F8C983001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 02 Nov 95 09:14:00 EST Those of you patient enough to read my posts may recall me saying that I was using /dev/cua rather than /dev/cufa because I was getting an "OK" which was breaking my dialin connection. Someone who recognized my tendency to overlook the obvious asked if I had sent the modem hangup message (usually three "plus" signs). I said "no, why would I?" Then I did it again tonight, and figured it out. The + sign is used to read the next message in my email. So, if I read three in a row, the modem thinks I'm sending the hangup signal. So, my question is: how do I reset that hangup signal (using kermit perhaps?) to something I don't use? Before you tell me to read my modem manual, I don't have one. Thanks for your help TjL [ My DOS network is having problems with email.... forgive me if this came through more than once ] -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Looking for 'Mail-Server' In-Reply-To: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM's message of 2 Nov 1995 10:04:45 GMT Message-ID: <7xlopysmnz.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de Fcc: ~/mail/sent-mail Organization: hardly any... References: <47a53t$g0m@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:59:32 GMT >>>>> "rs" == Ralf Specht <specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM> writes: rs> Hi all, I'm looking for a 'mail server' (don't know if that's rs> the right word for what I'm looking for...) program. rs> It should be possible to send mails with a special rs> subject-line or message body to a specific user. After the rs> mail has arrived at the server, the mail-server program should rs> execute specific command on the mailhost: rs> it should execute binaries, automatically send a mail back... rs> Could you point me to the right software? you might want to take a look at procmail (ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/packages/procmail/) it should do the job. (although it's a bit cryptic to program.) hth, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/ __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: How to change entry in User Group List (NA 1563) Message-ID: <1995Nov2.164436.1346@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: news@kurt.in-berlin.de Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:44:36 GMT Hi! Which person manages the user group list in NeXTAnswers (No. 1563)? I want to make some changes in the entry of our user group "BeNG" (Berlin, Germany). Thanx, Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help! My NSIntel... - more info Date: 2 Nov 1995 19:19:17 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <47b5jl$n29@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I still haven't been able to fix the boot problem with my computer (see below) but I have found out a few more things. I was able to fsck the disk again, and I tried to change the superblock with disk, but it didn't work. bardosaur:4# fsck -b 941312 Alternate super block location: 941312 ** /dev/rsd0a BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). The block number was from disk, scan. PLEASE HELP!!!!! I don't want to reformat my drive!!!! -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575 ======================= For some reason my machine (a 486 ASUS mb w/NCR810 scsi onboard) has quit booting automatically. The system crashed this afternoon, and when I rebooted, I got to n(NeXTStep) d(DOS), partion 1,...4 When I hit n, the screen blanked, then PRESS ANY KEY TO REBOOT appeared at the top of the screen. I used the installation floppy to boot the system back up, and it worked fine with: boot:sd()mach_kernel The system booted up without any problems, except that I had to do the same thing even after fsck had "fixed" the disk. I tried replacing the boot sector, but that didn't help. (Anyway, it seems to work, it's the next part with "boot:" that's broken) Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!
From: Stefano Canu <stefano@alphacd.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: installation of 3.2 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:54:41 -0800 Organization: InterNex ISDN Internet Access is our Business Message-ID: <30992201.18C3@alphacd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can anyone her please direct me to where i can get a nonstandard boot disk. I need the driver for the AHA6x60 (adaptec 1522) on the boot disk or i cannot complete my installation. i tried using the commercial boot disk and then adding the driver.. that worked and installed the kernel onto y partition. when it restarted the system, it asked for the driver. I put in the additional drivers disk and it appeared to load but wouldn't detect the scsi controller. the last line was Registering; PCkeyboard0 thanks in advance. stefano@alphacd.com stefano@hooked.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz Subject: Re: Problems with swap Message-ID: <D1F6983001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 02 Nov 95 11:54:00 EST There is no real way to remove the swapfile without rebooting. You may want to set the 'HIWAT' value in /etc/rc.swap (or wherever the LOWAT it set). Check out NeXTAnswers for more info, you might want to consider swapfile compression, but since I don't know much about it, I can't really help. If you can afford it, get a small disk (say 100 MB or so) and use that for swapspace. It really improves performance in my experience. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David R. Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multi-track Audio Software Needed Date: 2 Nov 1995 18:41:47 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <47b3db$kkp@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <4799tm$b3q@netnews.upenn.edu> I'm looking for a multi-track audio recording software to run on NeXT hardware. I have a device called Digital Ears which inputs 2 channels of CD quality sound through the DSP. I also have SoundWorks, the software that came with it, but this does not give me multi-track capability. Is/was there such a beast available? Any info sought. Thanks, -dave
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some info please on NextStep..thanx. Date: 2 Nov 1995 20:53:23 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-i-67.usc.edu Message-ID: <47bb43$qo0@usc.edu> References: <475q8l$1ut@gulfa.kuwait.net> <479llb$mbv@ns.felk.cvut.cz> borek (Borek Lupomesky) wrote: > There is GNU CC, but you must get it in binary form, as you > lack any compiler. Does this mean that with GNU CC you can compile for NS 3.3 without having a developer system. If so, would you know who would have such a binary? -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: cello@virgil (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multi-track Audio Software Needed Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Nov 1995 21:37:08 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <47bdm4$t1b@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <4799tm$b3q@netnews.upenn.edu> <47b3db$kkp@netnews.upenn.edu> David R. Anstine (anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu) wrote: : I'm looking for a multi-track audio recording software to run on NeXT : hardware. I have a device called Digital Ears which inputs 2 channels of : CD quality sound through the DSP. I also have SoundWorks, the software : that came with it, but this does not give me multi-track capability. : Is/was there such a beast available? Any info sought. : Thanks, : -dave -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check out my web page for a link to the Princeton Sound Kitchen. Paul Lansky has a cool program called RT which should do what you want. http://mario.harvard.edu Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio
From: gerhard@bauv111.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Gerhard Kozuschek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to IFF? Date: 3 Nov 95 12:17:22 GMT Organization: University of the Federal Armed Forces Munich Message-ID: <gerhard.815401042@bauv111> References: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> ramseyj2@pell4l14.alleg.edu (Jason Ramsey) writes: > Hello, world! > I own an Amiga 4000, but my college uses NeXT cubes. Is there a >way I can convert NeXT TIFF formatted graphics to Amiga IFF or at least >something else readable by my computer (GIF, JPEG)? I'm thinking NeXT OR >Amiga shareware on Aminet or similar NeXT sites. If not, is there a >commercial program for either system that would do the job? >Jason Ramsey There is a TIFF datatype on AmiNet. Load a TIFF picture with MultiView (which came with Amiga-OS 3.0) and chose save from the menu. MultiView will then save a IFF.ILBM picture. Gerhard
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Benchmark results (P90/256 pipeline/16MB RAM/Matrox2MB) Date: 3 Nov 1995 00:57:24 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <47blt4$9ig@alf.uib.no> Maybe not so interesting with all the 133MHZ machines out there, but this is a home machine for private use (and seems much faster than my cube, despite being in colour)... Cinet PPI-300 (Intel mainboard, Trident chipset, AMI BIOS) Pentium 90MHz (see my post about 90 vs 100 MHz versions) 256k pipeline burst cache 16MB RAM (not EDO) 1GB Quantum Fireball (EIDE, 10,5ms) Goldstar CD-ROM (4x ATAPI, model 520) Matrox MGA Millenium 2MB WRAM NS3.3 NXBench V2: Integer Performance: 131004 dhrystones/s (83.18 MIPS) Grafics Performance: 2.1800 (NXFactor 2.0) Tensor: Logo 372 Colour ramps: 336 Polygons: 430 Lines: 307 Text manipulation: 389 Image scaling: 150 decomp.: 106 Compositing: 522 50 threads: 61 100 : 118 Dhrystone: 605 Floating point: 498 Integer: 415 Trig: 1920 Disk seek: 260 write: 222 seq. read: 525 random read: 326 Total Tensors: 399 (seems that Trig accounts for much of the difference, although my machine was better than NeXTs (both turbo and non turbo) in all aspects except 50 threads, display polygons and composite images on the turbo modell). NWBench: 128755 Dhrystones/s (81.75 MIPS) Graphics: V/V 14.88 D/V 4.352 Any other bench tests I can try??? :-) Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which to choose - 90 or 100MHz Pentium for NS machine? Date: 3 Nov 1995 00:34:46 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <47bkim$65f@alf.uib.no> Hi. Well, I got my new machine and it seems quite nice - I don't know how I lived without colour before :-) Everything goes faster than the cube, although many of my favourite apps don't seem to run anymore (Stuart, Cassandra, Looching, MahJong, more). Many suggested a 100MHz as a better choice because of the 33Mhz buss contra the 90 at 30Mhz, citing better throughput and a "snappier" feel. My dealer is willing to swap my 90 chip for a 100 for a small fee (not too much :-) but I really don't know if it's money better spent elsewhere (like a printer, soundcard, RAM, more disk, etc) as NS seems (at the moment) quite nice on Intel - I'm positively surprised. So - what kind of performance increase do I get by adding 10MHZ to the processor speed and "only" 3MHz to the buss speed...? I have pipeline cache, but no EDO RAM (as the improvement was quated at 2% - not worth 2x price of RAM) and 16MB RAM (seems a bit little, but the machine seems quick enough) and Matrox Millenium w/2MB WRAM. BTW - anyone interested in an Intel box - get the best monitor you can - even at the option of a slower machine - it's worth it at the end of the day. I found a grat deal on a Philips Brilliance 17A 17" monitor that is really nice, high refresh rates, 0.26 dot pitch, etc. Theres really nothing as nice as NeXTs original MegaPixel monitors... I'll post benchmark results in a separate message. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some info please on NextStep..thanx. Date: 3 Nov 1995 09:19:31 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <47cmr3$enb@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <47c6ko$1hvh@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <47c6ko$1hvh@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: > In <47bb43$qo0@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu wrote: > > Does this mean that with GNU CC you can compile for NS 3.3 without having > a > > developer system. If so, would you know who would have such a binary? > > I don't believe so. I think that without the development system you would > be missing the system libraries. I don't think anybody has ported GNU's > libc to NS. Much more importantly, you need the header files to compile, which don't come with the user version. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some info please on NextStep..thanx. Date: 3 Nov 1995 04:43:04 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <47c6ko$1hvh@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <475q8l$1ut@gulfa.kuwait.net> <479llb$mbv@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <47bb43$qo0@usc.edu> In <47bb43$qo0@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu wrote: > borek (Borek Lupomesky) wrote: > > There is GNU CC, but you must get it in binary form, as you > > lack any compiler. > > Does this mean that with GNU CC you can compile for NS 3.3 without having a > developer system. If so, would you know who would have such a binary? I don't believe so. I think that without the development system you would be missing the system libraries. I don't think anybody has ported GNU's libc to NS. Y'all feel free (as I know you will ;) to correct me if I'm wrong... - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) Subject: Linux machine as fax server for NeXT ? Message-ID: <DHH349.Mt0@fritz.snafu.de> Sender: news@fritz.snafu.de Organization: dasburo Berlin Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:02:32 GMT Does anybody know wether it would be possible to have a Linux machine act as a fax server for NeXT machines. I had a look with Librarian through the docs, but the architecture of the fax system does not seem to be explained anywhere. Thanks for any info, Ernst. -- -------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de --------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L. van Emmerik) Subject: HP712/60 Freezes unpredictable?? Message-ID: <DHGHq4.HLz@inter.NL.net> Sender: news@inter.NL.net (News at news) Organization: Holec Projects Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:18:35 GMT I am using some HP 712/60 systems. Every now and than they freeze. In that case you can do nothing but to turn off the power, put it back on and wait for the system to check its disk. I can not find an indication of the cause. There are no disturbing messages in /usr/adm/messages. Has anyone out there experience with HP workstations with NS in general and with HP 712/60 in particular? Any ideas how to trace the problem or any sugestions? Please E-mail to pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net
From: kb10@calvanet.calvacom.fr (Kamal BENNANI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: JollysClass and MultiTech modems Date: 3 Nov 1995 10:01:22 GMT Organization: CalvaCom Networks Message-ID: <47cp9i$l33@midgard.calvacom.fr> Hi, Does anyone success in working with a MultiTech ZDXF (28k) and the Jollys Class 2.0 fax modem driver? Thanks, Kamal
From: Terry O'Neil <ton> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 3 Nov 1995 12:19:26 GMT Organization: Fidelity Message-ID: <47d1ce$330@news-srv1.fmr.com> References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit newsmaster@arzana.co.uk wrote: > >Don't suppose anyone knows whether or not a US Robotics Courier V34+ modem >is in any way compatible with NXFax ? > NXFax is not, and appearantly will not, be compatible with the US Robotics modems. This came from Black and White just a few weeks ago. Terry O'Neill ton@tiac.net
From: fchuang@hntp2.hinet.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD Recording???? Date: 3 Nov 1995 13:33:41 GMT Organization: HiNet Message-ID: <47d5nl$90q@serv.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-User: fchuang Hi, does anyone here use CD-R??? I have some questions regarding the software availability for the NeXT machine. Also, is it possible to use a PC to duplicate ISO-9660 format with Rock Ridge extensions? Thanks for your help!
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: Dimming Black Monitor & Failing OD drives Date: 3 Nov 1995 14:52:22 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Message-ID: <47dab6$ldt@ra.nrl.navy.mil> I couldn't find the old Q@As in the new NeXT Answers and some of the old black monitors here have really become impossible to read due to the old diming problem. Als, some OD drives have started failing. I am looking for: 1. Possible Ways to fix these problems even if they involve having to open a drive or a monitor and use soldering iron etc. (I distinctly remember a document about an easy and involved cleaning procedure for the OD since 1989. Where is it?) 2. Companies that still do Black Hardware maintenance besides Bell Atlantic. I would greatly appreciate any help, --jm ------------------------------------------------------------------- |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil |
From: pickett@blumlein.music.indiana.edu (David Pickett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:13:57 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <47df45$926@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> <47d1ce$330@news-srv1.fmr.com> In <47d1ce$330@news-srv1.fmr.com> Terry O'Neil wrote: > newsmaster@arzana.co.uk wrote: > > > >Don't suppose anyone knows whether or not a US Robotics Courier V34+ modem > >is in any way compatible with NXFax ? > > > > NXFax is not, and appearantly will not, be compatible with the US Robotics > modems. This came from Black and White just a few weeks ago. > > Terry O'Neill > ton@tiac.net > > Anybody know of fax package which works with USR 28.8 sportster? I tried Dove, and it doesnt work either. david -- Dr David A Pickett Director of Recording Arts Indiana University School of Music Bloomington IN 47405 EMAIL PICKETT@BLUMLEIN.MUSIC.INDIANA.EDU FAX +1-812-332-9233 WWW http://www.music.indiana.edu/som/audio/
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for 'Mail-Server' Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:15:10 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <47df6e$f1g@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <47a53t$g0m@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Ralf Specht (specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM) wrote: : Hi all, : I'm looking for a 'mail server' (don't know if that's the right word for : what I'm : looking for...) program. You should maybe have a look at "major-domo". Regularly a faq is posted in comp.answers. I'm not 100% sure how it runs on NeXT, but it is a wide-spread system. Further I think that dancingbear is selling a commercial package for this (www.dancingbear.com). Willem
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: modem question Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:19:07 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <47dfdr$f1g@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <0F8C983001A23A7C@-SMF-> LUOMA,TIMOTHY (476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu) wrote: : Those of you patient enough to read my posts may recall me saying that I : was using /dev/cua rather than /dev/cufa because I was getting an "OK" : which was breaking my dialin connection. : Someone who recognized my tendency to overlook the obvious asked if I had : sent the modem hangup message (usually three "plus" signs). I said "no, : why would I?" : Then I did it again tonight, and figured it out. The + sign is used to : read the next message in my email. So, if I read three in a row, the : modem thinks I'm sending the hangup signal. : So, my question is: how do I reset that hangup signal (using kermit : perhaps?) to something I don't use? Before you tell me to read my modem : manual, I don't have one. Don't worry, the Hayes break-signal (+++) [oops, I did break out myself just now while typing] is not only the three plusses, but also under the condition that you type them within (I think) one second, at least very fast. So I don't think you will have any problem with the + of your news- reader. Or are you reading with a speed of 1 message / second. Willem
From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (Is it ready?) Date: 3 Nov 1995 17:03:41 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <47di1d$hhd@cisun2000.unil.ch> I was told that the NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (fixing lookupd) would be released to the public on November 1st. Can we expect it on the ftp site soon? Thank you! Sean Hill --- Sean L. Hill Research in Computational Neuroscience Institut de Physiologie E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch Rue du Bugnon, 7 Work: ++41 021 692.5516 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND Fax: ++41 021 692.5505
From: ua7a@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Tobias Schillinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [HELP] Maple V Rel.2 Problems on NextStep 3.1 Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:49:32 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <47dh6s$t3h@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-User: ua7a I have a problem with Maple V Rel.2 on NextStep 3.1 : After having Maple V installed and licensed I can't do any maths with MapleV. I just enter an expression (like 3*3;) and press RETURN, but MapleV doesn't show any reaction,it just starts a new line I can enter new expressions on. I'm working on an PC with an Intel 486 DX/2 66 and Nextstep 3.1 for Intel. Can anybody help me and tell me what I have done wrong, please ??? (I could only license Maple V in a Unix shell, with Maple V for NextStep this was not possible - but I don't know why ...) Thanks for every help Tobias Schillinger, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Karlsruhe (my e-mail adress ist tobias@mahp1.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de)
From: tapeworm@phoenix.net (Tapeworm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Books on NeXT? Date: 3 Nov 1995 22:27:15 GMT Organization: Phoenix Data Systems Message-ID: <47e503$fag@gryphon.phoenix.net> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.advocacy ] [ Author was Tapeworm ] [ Posted on 2 Nov 1995 22:35:14 GMT ] I am just starting my NeXT experience here at the University of Houston and I was wondering I some of you "old timers" could point me at some good NeXT specific literature. I am currently enjoying _The Next Bible_ by Doug Clapp [(c) of 1990]. Can you recommend anything else as a "must read". I'm looking for general NeXt/NeXTSTEP books and NeXT Inc. histories as opposed to programming and networking books (later... maybe much later...). And maybe something hardware related if it was on the general side... Thanks in advance. Tapeworm tapeworm@phoenix.net NeXT computers - Where even the MANUALS are awesome... NeXTmail to jab81200@simpsons.uh.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As soon as they activate my account...
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From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD Recording???? Date: 4 Nov 1995 03:02:29 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <47el45$3k2@miwok.nbn.com> References: <47d5nl$90q@serv.hinet.net> In <47d5nl$90q@serv.hinet.net> fchuang@hntp2.hinet.net wrote: > > Hi, does anyone here use CD-R??? I have some questions regarding > the software availability for the NeXT machine. > > Also, is it possible to use a PC to duplicate ISO-9660 format with > Rock Ridge extensions? > > Thanks for your help! > > Hello: We have a product that could help you, it's called eXTRACD. Info at: http://www/gscorp.com/eXTRACD.html Best regards, John C. Fox john@gscorp.com http://www.gscorp.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eld@indra.com (Eric L Davis) Subject: Cycle 5 SPARC w/ NeXTStep Message-ID: <DHHLtG.IrJ.0.net@indra.com> Organization: Indra's Net - Public Internet Access Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:46:28 GMT Has anyone had any luck running NeXTStep on a Cycle 5 SPARC? Cycle 5 makes the logic upgrade for the SPARC 1,1+,2,IPC,IPX.... It uses the same basic architecture and chipset as the SUN SPARC 5, so it seems like a winner! any thoughts? eric
From: jtainio@tuoppi.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Benchmark results (P90/256 pipeline/16MB RAM/Matrox2MB) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 4 Nov 1995 11:24:31 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Message-ID: <47fihf$jgl@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> References: <47blt4$9ig@alf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit : Any other bench tests I can try??? :-) How about DrivePerformance ??? -- -------------------------------------------- Jukka Tainio jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi http://www.ratol.fi/~jtainio/ --------------------------------------------
Message-ID: <47df75$834@news.nd.edu> Organization: University of Notre Dame MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu (Uri Sarid) Subject: Re: dialing in to my 28.8 Boca modem Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:15:33 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world On 11/01/95, Uri Sarid wrote: > >I just purchased a Boca 28.8 modem to be used with my NS 3.3 Pentium system. >The modem sits on COM port A. I'm running NXFax, so there's an entry in gettytab >put there by the NXFax installer which reads > ># NXFax dialup on port A >NXFaxA:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:lm=\r\n%h modem >login\72 :sp#38400: > >but the same problem below happens if I don't have NXFax running and instead just >use the gettytab entry (by changing and turning on an entry in ttys). The fax works >great both ways: in particular, the modem will answer and receive fax calls. The >problem is this: when I call in to this phone line remotely, namely I place a data call >to this phone line, hoping to connect to my machine from home, the modem answers >and prints out the banner line, then it asks me for my username, but instead of then >prompting for a password it prints a few characters of seeming garbage and that's all. >No connection, and hitting my password or any other keystrokes on the dialing-in >remote machine does not produce any effect. According to the man page entries, >getty does whatever it was told to in the gettytab file, and then hands control to login >in order to authenticate the login. Apparently this is where things hang; perhaps a >bau rate or parity change occur. > >Can anyone shed any light on this problem? What should I try next? >Thanks very much in advance! > Uri Sarid > Dept. of Physics > University of Notre Dame > sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu > > Just following up on my earlier posting, now that the problem has been solved: (This might be useful to others) Thanks very much for your assistance. The problem was apparently that (as I was helpfully told by the NXFax people) there was an old requirement for the p8 command in the gettytab entry. The original entry read NXFaxA:p8:ap:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:lm=\r\n%h modem login\72 :sp#38400: but with the current versions of the serial port and portserver device drivers, the p8 should no longer be used. However, taking it out of the entry was NOT enough: as I discovered reading through the top of my gettytab file, the default entry at the top of the table sets the default parameters for all entries, so if you don't specify p8 in the NXFaxA entry but you did specify it in the default entry it is still used! The solution is then trivial: take it out of the default entry too. My default entry and my NXFaxA entry both have ap and neither has p8 and now things work great. By the way, note that the colon (:) is a separator, so in your banner line do not use a colon, use \72 (its ascii code) instead. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions I received! Uri (sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu)
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (Is it ready?) Date: 4 Nov 1995 16:08:51 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <47g36j$1a6@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <47di1d$hhd@cisun2000.unil.ch> shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) writes: >I was told that the NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (fixing lookupd) would be released to >the public on November 1st. Can we expect it on the ftp site soon? Yes, you can. Just look at ftp.next.com or at peanuts.leo.org. Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Dept. of Computer Science stabl@leo.org University of Munich http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 Germany FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
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From: herb@hepo.toppoint.de (Herbert Scheller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.os.linux,de.comp.os.unix Subject: Re: Looking for 'Mail-Server' Message-ID: <OHomwAGABh107h@hepo.toppoint.de> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:55:42 GMT References: <47a53t$g0m@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Organization: TOPPOINT Mailbox e.V. Kiel, Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <47a53t$g0m@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) writes: >Hi all, >I'm looking for a 'mail server' (don't know if that's the right word for >what I'm >looking for...) program. >It should be possible to send mails with a special subject-line or message >body >to a specific user. After the mail has arrived at the server, the >mail-server >program should execute specific command on the mailhost: >it should execute binaries, automatically send a mail back... >Could you point me to the right software? Probier´s mal mit einer Anfrage beim Toppoint List- und Mailserver Ein Service des Toppoint Mailbox e.V. - weltweit verfügbar - Eine Mail an die Adresse server@toppoint.de mit der Nachricht @@ find rna_l hilft vielleicht weiter. Mit @@ help bekommt man eine Hilfedatei geschickt. >Thanks... >.Ralf jo. Herbert -- >< ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Herbert M. Scheller EMail: herb@toppoint.de
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (Is it ready?) Date: 4 Nov 1995 12:18:29 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <47g795$ln@papoose.quick.com> References: <47di1d$hhd@cisun2000.unil.ch> In article <47di1d$hhd@cisun2000.unil.ch>, Sean Hill <Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch> wrote: >I was told that the NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (fixing lookupd) would be released to >the public on November 1st. Can we expect it on the ftp site soon? The patches were placed on the server yesterday. ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/Patches/NEXTSTEP3.3Patch1/ By the number of ftp connections going at the moment, I think 10 people are downloading it at this moment. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (Is it ready?) Date: 4 Nov 1995 17:39:39 GMT Organization: A Big Black Cube Message-ID: <47g8gr$onc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <47di1d$hhd@cisun2000.unil.ch> shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) wrote: > > > I was told that the NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch (fixing lookupd) would be released to > the public on November 1st. Can we expect it on the ftp site soon? It IS out... ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/Patches/NEXTSTEP3.3Patch1/ -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: Kevin P. Hannan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: Is NeXT planning a port of NeXSTEP to the PowerPC? Date: 5 Nov 1995 06:27:32 GMT Organization: Future Services, Inc. Message-ID: <47hlgl$j4v@news.atlcom.net> References: <47fvd1$97k@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In <47fvd1$97k@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Gregory John Casamento wrote: > I guess the title of the article says it all. Is NeXT currently > planning a port to the PowerPC?? I really would like to know!! Also, > are they going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha?? > > Thanks, > As I remember, talking to some NeXT reps LAST year, they indicated that a PowerPC port was 90% complete. They tabled development in lieu of a port to Sun machines which had/have a considerably larger user base. This decision was most likely guided as well by the fact that PREP compliant hardware was not available/planned in the immediate future. I hope this is still the case (NeXT working on PowerPC) Let me interject this note: When it comes down to it the end users of the machines are not all that interested in the particular hardware/software combo that makes the machine work. All anyone wants to do is use the system as a tool to perform the task at hand. Not all people work the same, therefore they should not be chained and (purposely misled and confused, IMHO by some OS/Application development companies). So, to end the rambling..... We all should work more to provide services to the user community is comfortable with so we (developers, etc) don't keep hearing "Why can't I just......"
From: rkswamy@unity.ncsu.edu (Ravi Krishna Swamy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need EIDE help on installing NS 3.3 for intel Date: 5 Nov 1995 16:09:07 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <47inj3$s26@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> References: <DH2M9u.1z3@apollo.hp.com> <472v0i$npu@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <479ur0$el5@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DHF8w4.17y@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <47i8k2$tt4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> I just got NS 3.3 for intel and am having an extremely difficult time getting it to do much of anything. My system is: Zeos Pantera pentium 90 Seagate ST31220A EIDE/Fast ATA-2 1083 MB hd Mitsumi 2X FX400DE EIDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drive I have followed the instructions on NeXTanswers from: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html I got the 3.3 "Additional Drivers Floppy Image" 3.3 Add. drivers image and rawrite.exe and made the image under DOS. I also changed my CD-ROM drive to slave and put it on the primary EIDE controller. For some reason my NS package came with the NS CD and 3 floppies. One was the driver disk but I had to install disks but one did not do anything when I tried to boot off of it. I used the one that worked and then installed NS and selected Adaptec 154x like the instructions said. I used the NS driver disk that came with it first and then loaded EIDE and ATAPI CD support off of the driver disk I made. Everything seemed to work fine and I partitioned and installed NS without any problems. Then it said to reboot and I did. Here is where the problems start. NS starts to boot and asks for the EIDE driver disk so I put it in and then it starts scanning devices. Finds PCI, finds etc. When it gets down to detecting the EIDE devices it just hangs and then reboots. I used the -v option on the NS boot man to get some errors. I got something like this, it doesn't stay up for very long... driverLoader scandir /usr/Devices/EIDE.config error aborting Configuration and then it simply reboots and it also corrupts the partition when I try again fsck runs for about 15 seconds and fixes it yet when I reboot yet again I get the same EIDE.config error. I booted into single user mode with -s and think I found the problem. I DIDN'T HAVE an EIDE.config file. I did have an IDE.config file so I tried sym linking EIDE.config to IDE.config. This time it got one line further and said it was reading EIDE.config and then it hung again and rebooted. I also tried booting with config=hd()Default but that didn't help either. I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong or if I am even supposed to have an EIDE.config file. I would greatly appreciate any help that anyone has to offer. FWIW, Linux and Solaris x86 installed without any problems on this same setup. The drive currently has a small Linux swap and Linux ext2 filesystem on it. I wouldn't see why this would cause problems though. Solaris x86 did not like my Linux swap partition due to the fs codes being the same but it caused its problem when trying to use Solaris fdisk at install time. NS installed fine, it just won't boot up and mount the drive correctly. I also tried editing /etc/fstab and removed the second line which I think was for the CD. It didn't seem to help either. Ravi -- Ravi K. Swamy http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/r/rkswamy/www/ rkswamy@eos.ncsu.edu root@genom.com
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Which modem for NeXTSTEP? Date: 5 Nov 1995 14:35:55 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <47iejr$mqd@alf.uib.no> Well, a new machine and I'm starting from the bottom after selling my Cube and getting an Intel box with NS3.3 So I've decided since there is so much new that has happened I best should start fresh and forget my previous setup as outdated :-) Onwards... The ZyXEL U1496 series was the hottest modem for NeXT when it came, but I wonder what people are using these days? I'm considering the Elite (w/out ISDN) but it's not approved in Norway :-( and has gotten very much bad press in comp.dcom. modems for reliability, poor quality and upgrade possibility, etc. I have been using the 1496 for SLIP/PPP, NXFax for outgoing faxes (excellent program!) and Jolly's am (answering machine) for receiving faxes and voicemail. Everything "just worked". I'd like the same flexibility with my new machine, and wonder if there are alternatives to ZyXEL - I don't suppose am supports any other modem brands...? A local dealer here recommended an InterTex as being as good or better than ZyXEL, but then I don't know if it's supported by the programs I want to use (above). In germany this modem is called the "Ioriko" and in Sweden (where it's made) the "Power Bit". Comments/tips/advice/experiences welcomed. please e-mail (as soon as possible - I'm on a borrowed Courier 14.4 I have to return soon...) Regards, Thor -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Message-ID: <DHJAw5.G0@nvc.cc.ca.us> Organization: Napa Valley College MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM ThinkPad 755CX (long) Date: 04 Nov 1995 18:45:41 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops Distribution: world I recently installed NeXTSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755CX, and I thought I'd write up a little review of how it went, and how I like using NeXTSTEP on it (so far). I've been using NeXTSTEP on NeXT computers since NeXTSTEP 0.9, and have been dying to get a NeXTSTEP notebook for a long time. The ThinkPad has a 75mhz Pentium, 800x600x16bit LCD, 40megs of RAM, a Toshiba 1.3gig HD, a Xircom IIps PS-CE2-10BC (UTP/BNC), and Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI. I've also got a 540meg HD with Win95 on it. I decided to install via SCSI, instead of doing it over the network, based on previous experiences with both types of installations on desktop machines. It took a bit of struggling to figure out that I needed *two* PCMCIA drivers, one for the PCMCIA bus, and the other for the Intel 82365 chipset that drives the PCMCIA. After figuring that out, NeXTSTEP finally noticed I had a SCSI card, and was able to boot up off the CD. I wanted to dedicate the *entire* drive to NeXTSTEP (after all, when I want DOS/Windows, I'll put in the other HD). When it gave me some options about making DOS partitions and what not, I told it to use the entire drive for NeXTSTEP (I'd really like to make 3 NeXTSTEP partitions, but I don't think that's possible). After completing the installation, and trying to reboot, the computer was unable to boot off the drive. NeXTSTEP had done a raw install, and had used every single sector, including sectors normally used for the DOS partitioning scheme. Unfortunately, the BIOS in the ThinkPad can only boot by using the DOS partitioning scheme. I went ahead and rebooted off the CD, and reinstalled NeXTSTEP again, this time going into the advanced options and making a single NeXTSTEP partition using the menu the CD gives you. After reinstalling, it still wouldn't boot. NeXTSTEP had decided that since there was only a single partition, and it was dedicated to NeXTSTEP, it would again raw format the drive. I rebooted once again off the CD, and this time caved and made both a NeXTSTEP partition *and* a DOS partition. I made the DOS partition very tiny (only 2 megs), because I have no intention of putting DOS on that drive. After doing the install this time, the drive was finally bootable. After the CD finished installing, and rebooted the computer, it came up, and of course asked me to insert the floppy that had several drivers that were not on the CD (ones relating to the PCMCIA and EIDE). Unfortunately, it only remembered 3 of the 4 drivers I had loaded from floppy, the EIDE, Adaptec SlimSCSI, and one of the PCMCIA drivers. So after it booted up a ways, it freaked out because it couldn't find the CD drive that it wanted to mount and finish up installation, and went into single-user mode. I ignored its problem and just exited the shell, so that it would continue to boot up. When I got NeXTSTEP booted up, and had gotten through Configure the first time, and had finally been able to login, I was able to use Configure to load the rest of the drivers from floppy, so it could locate the SCSI card again. I was then able to reboot and install the rest of the packages from the CD. I was actually impressed with the speed of the video under NeXTSTEP. The computer came with Win3.1 pre-installed, and running 16bit under that was just fine. But I was only able to withstand Win3.1 for about a week, then I put Win95 on it. The video performance under Win95 was horrible. I was worried that maybe the video really was slow. Nope, just Win95. It's plenty fast enough under NeXTSTEP. One of the things that annoys me is that when I tell NeXTSTEP to turn off the computer, it gives me the screen that says, "Please wait until it's safe to turn off your computer," and then in a bit, "It's now safe to turn off your computer," but doesn't actually turn the computer off itself. Win95 *does* turn the computer off by itself. I also really miss use of the MWave DSP. I *really* want sound better than a stupid beep, and I *really* miss the 28.8 modem that the DSP is capable of. The voice mail/answering machine/speakerphone stuff I can live without, but I wouldn't mind having them too. :-) It also looks like I'm gonna have to boot into DOS anytime I want to turn on/off the serial port or IR interface. I don't know of any way to run the ThinkPad setup utilities under NeXTSTEP. I also couldn't get any of the standby, suspend, or hibernate modes to do anything. The NeXTAnswer on installing NeXTSTEP says that only standby is supported, and closing the lid. I couldn't resist, and had to see if it would hang. It didn't at all, and closing the lid simply turns off the LCD screen. I haven't yet figured out how to get into the ROM monitor, or work with funky numpad which is overlaid on top of the regular keyboard. Overall, I'm really happy to finally have NeXTSTEP on a notebook (and can't wait to take it to work and show it off), but I'd still like to see better support of the extra ThinkPad goodies like the MWave DSP, and the ability to actually power off the computer from software. I'm also a little disappointed the video is only 12bit, rather than 16, but that seems to be a problem with *any* 16bit video card. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.sys.sgi.misc,rec.games.computer.doom.misc,alt.games.quake Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing} Supersedes: <rec.games.computer.quake-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>,<rec.games.computer.quake-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 5 Nov 1995 22:04:34 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.quake-CFV2a@uunet.uu.net> References: <43mttl$83h@rodan.UU.NET>,<rec.games.computer.quake-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> Archive-Name: rec.games.computer.quake LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.games.computer.quake.announce unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.editing unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.misc Newsgroups lines: rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/Announcements about Quake. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files. rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion of Quake. Note: This is a repost of the second CFV. The only change is in the Newsgroups: header; some groups were left off the first posting. None of the text has changed. If you have previously voted, you do NOT need to vote again. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 10 Nov 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Kyle R. Hofmann <rhofmann@crl.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: all groups Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of messages about Quake. The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes, the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is around 51%). Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide. | Actual number of readers in sampled population | | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all | | | Recent traffic (messages per month) | | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month) | | | | | Crossposting percentage | | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr | | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders | | | | | | | | who read this group. Month Rank V V V V V V V V jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will be posted in November when more information about Quake is available. These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic messages in other newsgroups. CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.announce This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings, announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new servers, reviews, etc. The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the following addresses: Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.editing Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software will release an editor which will allow people to create their own universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some of them have already been developed but will not be released before Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors, editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats. Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc instead (or in .playing when this group is created). CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.misc This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created. Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with other games, piracy, etc. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake. END CHARTER. 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From: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep Media Replacement Cost Date: 5 Nov 1995 19:47:35 GMT Organization: London Business School Message-ID: <47j4cn$7mr@pluto.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Here is an interesting tidbit. I lost my media for NS 3.3/academic during a move. So, I wanted to get a replacement of the CD-ROM and floppy from NeXT. I figure media costs are about $3 total. After some conversations with NeXT Order management, they offered to make a media replacement available to me at the special price of $155 +tax+shipping= $177.03. Well, next time that NS crashes and corrupts the disk enough, I guess I will leave NeXTStep for linux. /ivo welch -- Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu Assoc Prof of Finance Anderson GSM at UCLA Until Dec 95: London Business School, Finance Dept, iwelch@lbs.lon.ac.uk Sussex Place, London NW1 4SA. England.
Message-ID: <47gfjd$8bh@emf.emf.net> Organization: n MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: fa@emf.emf.net (Farhad Afrahi) Subject: No output from printer Date: 04 Nov 1995 18:40:29 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world I am running NS 3.3 on a Pentium with an HP 4ML printer attached. I used to be able to print without any problems. Presently, when a print job is sent to the printer, the printer's data light comes on indicating that it is receiving data. The printer queue also shows that there is an active job. Nothing comes out of the printer, however. The printer also works fine under dos. I would greatly appreciate any ideas or discussion of similar experiences. --Farhad Afrahi
Message-ID: <47gfe6$kc9@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. References: <46pigk$o5s@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <46r1cm$3im@spool.cs.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Subject: Re: Should I enable swapfile compression on TurboColor? Date: 04 Nov 1995 18:37:42 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world In an earlier article I wrote: >I'm seeking answers to virtual memory questions for black hardware. >I just noticed that the man page for swaptab claims that compression >is on by default! This contradicts the Release Notes page that I >quoted above, which says that compression is *off* by default for >systems with > 16 MB RAM (or > 12 for mono). Which is right? >If it matters, I have NS 3.2. >Also, I tried booting my TurboColor with "bsd- nbu=254", which gives >254 buffers (of what, exactly?) instead of the 204 buffers I was getting. >And the system *seems* noticeably zippier and crisper. Can anyone >explain why this might be? I just wanted to summarize the advice I received and the results I found: Apparently, swapfile compression is the default. I experimented with turning it off in the swaptab file, but the system was definately slower. I also experimented with setting the number of i/o buffers higher--- 254, instead of the 204 default for my 32 MB RAM---and this made the system just a bit crisper and zippier. I've been told that this should cause me to have more disk cache, but less available RAM, and would probably be detrimental. But in my usage it made things a little faster. I got the suggestion to use bsd- nbu=254 from someone who got it as advice from SoftPC to optimize his system. So, I've had the machine up for a week, and swapfile is still at 16 MB, swapfile.front (its existence shows that compression is enabled) is at 16.2 MB. vm_stat gives the following: phoenix> vm_stat Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 8192 bytes) Pages free: 28. Pages active: 2328. Pages inactive: 1215. Pages wired down: 380. "Translation faults": 9469413. Pages copy-on-write: 4371554. Pages zero filled: 90494. Pages reactivated: 207839. Pageins: 25615. Pageouts: 6211. Object cache: 61487 hits of 70610 lookups (87% hit rate) Hmmm. Free pages looks a bit low! But I have lots of stuff running right now. Anyway, this is for a TurboColor with 32 MB RAM and swapfile on a separate disk. --David Finton
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.emulators.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.emulators.mac.executor Supersedes: <12432.24890.791300@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 5 Nov 1995 23:04:27 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.emulators.mac.executor-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> References: <44hn8g$q2@rodan.UU.NET> <12432.24890.791300@uunet.uu.net> Archive-Name: comp.emulators.mac.executor LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.emulators.mac.executor Newsgroups line: comp.emulators.mac.executor ARDI's Mac emulator, Executor. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Nov 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to one of the proponents. Proponent: Melissa Algeo <melissa@ardi.com> Proponent: Ian Viemeister <vmeister@ios.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: comp.emulators.mac.executor The Executor Interest mailing list has 687 subscribers and a great number of regular posters, and the amount of traffic has become overwhelming. When the idea of a newsgroup arose, an interest poll was floated on the list, the results of which showed that the great majority of respondents desired to move to a newsgroup. Comp.emulators.misc is a topically appropriate forum which already contains some Executor traffic, however, the volume of Executor discussion in the mailing list far exceeds what would be appropriate in comp.emulators.misc. Much of the Executor Interest mailing list discussion revolves around specific aspects of Executor, and the amount of this traffic could inadvertently squelch the discussion of emulation technology in general. Members of the Executor user community who lack access to Usenet will continue to be served by a mirroring of the Usenet group to the mailing list and vice versa. CHARTER: comp.emulators.mac.executor Comp.emulators.mac.executor is for general discussion of ARDI's Executor software Macintosh emulator. Executor users and potential users are encouraged to discuss Executor bugs and workarounds and to share tips for getting Executor to work properly with specific hardware and/or software. ARDI will post announcements of new versions, and provide other help when possible. Criticism, advice, and mutual user assistance are all expected and encouraged. Advertisements and off-topic postings are forbidden, as is the posting of encoded binaries or any information on obtaining pirated software. The group will be gatewayed with mailing list Executor Interest, executor@nacm.com END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@ntrs.com Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message must contain one and only one of the following vote statements for each group: I vote YES on comp.emulators.mac.executor I vote NO on comp.emulators.mac.executor You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL. These votes are not counted in the results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result. Names are required for this vote. The counting software will extract your name from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following statement and add your name (on the same line). Voter name: Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY. If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account; duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote. THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE. Names, addresses, and votes will be published in a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be anonymous votes. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists: executor@nacm.com (posting address) executor-request@nacm.com (subscription address)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM ThinkPad 755CX (long) Message-ID: <DHLABD.9K@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <DHJAw5.G0@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:28:25 GMT >It took a bit of struggling to figure out that I needed *two* PCMCIA >drivers, one for the PCMCIA bus, and the other for the Intel 82365 >chipset that drives the PCMCIA. After figuring that out, NeXTSTEP >finally noticed I had a SCSI card, and was able to boot up off the >CD. One thing I forgot to mention is that I was forced to swap the order of my PCMCIA cards. I used to have the SCSI card in socket 0, and the Ethernet card in socket 1. When booting up, the PCMCIA driver would spit out "Resetting socket 0", then load the SCSI driver, then spit out "Resetting socket 1" and hang. The first thing I did was simply remove the Ethernet card while I was still getting everything loaded and installed, but then later I decided to swap the order and see what would happen. It works fine this way. It now says "Resetting socket 0", the "Resetting socket 1", then loads the SCSI driver. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problems with swap Date: 05 Nov 1995 23:05:11 +0100 Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Sender: jacob@jnext Message-ID: <x720rm7m5k.fsf@jnext> References: <D1F6983001A23A7C@-SMF-> In-reply-to: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu's message of 02 Nov 95 11:54:00 EST In article <D1F6983001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: There is no real way to remove the swapfile without rebooting. You may want to set the 'HIWAT' value in /etc/rc.swap (or wherever the LOWAT it set). Check out NeXTAnswers for more info, you might want to consider swapfile compression, but since I don't know much about it, I can't really help. Compression helps on disk space but setting the hiwat to say 20MB will still crash the machine when the swapfile reaches the 20MB. So: If you can afford it, get a small disk (say 100 MB or so) and use that for swapspace. It really improves performance in my experience. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen jacob@dannug.dk NEXTSTEP Software Reviews at: http://www.dannug.dk/jacob
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep Media Replacement Cost Date: 6 Nov 1995 03:04:57 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <47ju0p$6rc@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <47j4cn$7mr@pluto.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Ivo Welch writes > After some conversations with NeXT Order management, they offered to make a > media replacement available to me at the special price of $155 > +tax+shipping= $177.03. > > Well, next time that NS crashes and corrupts the disk enough, I guess I > will leave NeXTStep for linux. Don't do that---we would miss your input here. If you were local, I would be delighted to let you use my copy in such an event, provided of course that you could demonstrate a valid license. I am sure that there is someone on your side of the lake who feels the same way; at worst, you could offer to pay transatlantic shipping both ways and a $25 goodwill fee, and still come out ahead of NeXT's reprehensible media replacement policy. I wish to God these calculations /============================================= had been executed by steam! / Joshua W Burton 708/677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu -- C. Babbage, 1821 /===============================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.dcom.modems From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Which modem for NeXTSTEP? In-Reply-To: edmtl@alf.uib.no's message of 5 Nov 1995 14:35:55 +0100 Message-ID: <RDL.95Nov5233740@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <47iejr$mqd@alf.uib.no> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:37:40 GMT Try the Practical Peripherals ProClass V.34. Robert In article <47iejr$mqd@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: Well, a new machine and I'm starting from the bottom after selling my Cube and getting an Intel box with NS3.3 So I've decided since there is so much new that has happened I best should start fresh and forget my previous setup as outdated :-) Onwards... The ZyXEL U1496 series was the hottest modem for NeXT when it came, but I wonder what people are using these days? I'm considering the Elite (w/out ISDN) but it's not approved in Norway :-( and has gotten very much bad press in comp.dcom. modems for reliability, poor quality and upgrade possibility, etc. I have been using the 1496 for SLIP/PPP, NXFax for outgoing faxes (excellent program!) and Jolly's am (answering machine) for receiving faxes and voicemail. Everything "just worked". I'd like the same flexibility with my new machine, and wonder if there are alternatives to ZyXEL - I don't suppose am supports any other modem brands...? A local dealer here recommended an InterTex as being as good or better than ZyXEL, but then I don't know if it's supported by the programs I want to use (above). In germany this modem is called the "Ioriko" and in Sweden (where it's made) the "Power Bit". Comments/tips/advice/experiences welcomed. please e-mail (as soon as possible - I'm on a borrowed Courier 14.4 I have to return soon...) Regards, Thor -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Which modem for NeXTSTEP? Date: 6 Nov 1995 04:59:17 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-d-43.usc.edu Message-ID: <47k4n5$i08@usc.edu> References: <47iejr$mqd@alf.uib.no> <RDL.95Nov5233740@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote: > Try the Practical Peripherals ProClass V.34. How does this compare to ZyXEL. I always thought that ZyXEL was one of the top most reliable brands (if not the cheapest). Also, does the ProClass work with NxFax? Does it have any advantages over ZyXEL? -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 6 Nov 1995 05:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <47k5kt$ek3@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sex.watersports From: vac@indirect.com(Anne Schoofs) Subject: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Message-ID: <DHLt9x.8FC@goodnet.com> Sender: vac@indirect.com(Anne Schoofs) Organization: Internet Direct, Inc. Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:17:57 GMT Seriously, this is a chance of a lifetime. I want all you naughty boys to contact me at once. Do not delay. Location is unimportant. Let me know how you've been naughty and what type of corrective punishment you deem appropriate. It's time we clean up the net. Anne --------------------------------------------------- Anne Schoofs vac@indirect.com Fax: 602 912 8823 Attn: RAS -------------------------------------------------
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Benchmarks??? Message-ID: <1995Nov6.125953.45608@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 6 Nov 95 12:59:53 MET Summary: Searching Benchmark Results for Nextstep Keywords: benchmark Distribution: world Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland I'm searching for actual benchmark-results of different machines running Nextstep cause I'm eventually planning to upgrade from my Monostation to an actual HP or SUN (probably not to an Intel-machine. Please tell me where to find the results. Thanx -- ************************************************************ Daniel Haas Universitaet Basel email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please) ************************************************************
From: vac@indirect.com(Anne Schoofs) Sender: vac@indirect.com(Anne Schoofs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sex.watersports Date: 06 Nov 1995 09:23:39 EST Control: cancel <DHLt9x.8FC@goodnet.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <DHLt9x.8FC@goodnet.com> Message-ID: <cancel.DHLt9x.8FC@goodnet.com> Spam cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu
From: niyer@ornews.intel.com (Narayanan Iyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which to choose - 90 or 100MHz Pentium for NS machine? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 Nov 1995 21:14:41 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <47lts1$7pm@ornews.intel.com> References: <47bkim$65f@alf.uib.no> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : Hi. : Well, I got my new machine and it seems quite nice - I don't know : how I lived without colour before :-) Everything goes faster : than the cube, although many of my favourite apps don't seem : to run anymore (Stuart, Cassandra, Looching, MahJong, more). : Many suggested a 100MHz as a better choice because of the 33Mhz : buss contra the 90 at 30Mhz, citing better throughput and a : "snappier" feel. Just a clarification, the bus speeds are 60 Mhz and 66 Mhz for the 90 Mhz and 100 Mhz Pentiums respectively. Narayanan
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Date: 6 Nov 1995 16:45:19 -0500 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> I'm happily using NEXTSTEP at home, with one little annoyance. On the login panel, the reboot and power off buttons are both "greyed out" and can not be used. As a result, the only way to safely shutdown or reboot is to log on as root in a terminal window and do it "by hand". This is a pain! I'm sure this must be a configuration problem, but I can't find the magic thing to set. Any suggestions? Thanks! Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXTmail appreciated!) 614-764-6215
From: stevem@RADium.ca (Stephen MacDougall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Test message - don't bother to read. Date: 7 Nov 1995 03:25:10 GMT Organization: RADium Technology Centre (Canada) Message-ID: <47mjim$40n@master.ftn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII This is a test message, just to see if news postings are actually going anywhere.
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <47n6jc$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Control: cancel <47n6jc$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: 7 Nov 1995 08:52:20 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <47n6o4$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> cancel
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Date: 7 Nov 1995 08:53:12 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <47n6po$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) wrote: > I'm happily using NEXTSTEP at home, with one little annoyance. > On the login panel, the reboot and power off buttons are both > "greyed out" and can not be used. As a result, the only way > to safely shutdown or reboot is to log on as root in a terminal > window and do it "by hand". This is a pain! Login as root, start Preferences.app, go to the picture with the LoginPanel and disable "Disable Power Off". - Karsten Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <47n6n7$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Control: cancel <47n6n7$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: 7 Nov 1995 08:54:05 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <47n6rd$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> cancel
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which to choose - 90 or 100MHz Pentium for NS machine? Date: 7 Nov 1995 08:54:40 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <47n6sg$q3@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <47bkim$65f@alf.uib.no> <47lts1$7pm@ornews.intel.com> niyer@ornews.intel.com (Narayanan Iyer) wrote: > Just a clarification, the bus speeds are 60 Mhz and 66 Mhz > for the 90 Mhz and 100 Mhz Pentiums respectively. > > Narayanan Thats wrong. P90 P100 Pentium speed 90 MHz 100 MHz PCI speed 30 MHz 33 MHz memory speed 60 MHz 66 MHz - Karsten Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
From: giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Heinrich Giesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BibTeX - frontend available Date: 7 Nov 1995 10:23:40 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> For my own purposes and just for fun I wrote a BibTeX frontend which you may use for managing BibTeX databases. Here is the readme file which gives you some impression about the application: ------------------ Bibliography an application to view, create, modify BibTeX database files under NEXTSTEP. VERSION 1.0 Requirements: * NEXTSTEP 3.1 or higher. Usage: see Info/Usage... what it does: * reads .bib files (= BibTeX database files) * creates .bib files * shows entries of .bib files * creates new entries * sorts entries in a .bib file (first PREAMBLEs, then STRINGs, then the rest) * allows dragging and dropping of entries between .bib files * allows dragging of citations into Emacs documents * can show (and print) a LaTeX - preview * converts .bbl files into .rtf files * converts .bbl files into .html files * has a shelf for often used .bib files * allows a flexible view of entries * allows to create new entryfields (as much as you want) Known problems: * the rtf and html conversions are very simple * a help file is under construction Of course there are a lot of things remaining to be done. Suggestions and bug reports are welcome. ------------- The current version of Bibliography is in ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen/ as Bibliography<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz The size is 0.249 Mb. The sources are a still bit dirty. I will make it public occasionally. Heinrich Giesen ------------- Prof. Dr. Heinrich Giesen | giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Universitaet Koblenz, | MIME / NeXTmail ok Institut fuer Informatik | Voice: +49 261 9119-416 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-497
From: Cedar Systems <Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 09:33:56 GMT Organization: Cedar Systems Message-ID: <815736836snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> References: <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> In article <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> rhm@oclc.org "Robin Hermance-Moore" writes: > I'm happily using NEXTSTEP at home, with one little annoyance. > On the login panel, the reboot and power off buttons are both > "greyed out" and can not be used. As a result, the only way > to safely shutdown or reboot is to log on as root in a terminal > window and do it "by hand". This is a pain! > > I'm sure this must be a configuration problem, but I can't find > the magic thing to set. Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > Robin > -- > Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section > OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 > 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 > rhm@oclc.org (NeXTmail appreciated!) 614-764-6215 > Use Preferences.app to turn the power off feature back on. It is usually one of the right most preferences options. You may need to log in as root to get this option on Preferences. You will need to reboot "by hand" for the change to take effect. Regards, Paul Heffernan. ----------------------------------------------- Cedar Systems email: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk telephone: +44 1242 239221 facsimile: +44 1242 254367 -----------------------------------------------
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:11:39 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951107160902.10745A-100000@hphalle6a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> <815736836snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <815736836snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Cedar Systems wrote: > > > Use Preferences.app to turn the power off feature back on. It is usually one > of the right most preferences options. You may need to log in as root to get > this option on Preferences. > You will need to reboot "by hand" for the change to take effect. > Huuu! This guy has the feature turned on? I was looking how to turn it on, and Preference.app just doesn't work for me. Hmmm. So there seem to be people wanting this feature turned on and can't turn it on and vice versa --- strange new world... Greetings, Boerny. (using NS3.3 on Intel (didn't try it with the new 3.3Patch, yet)) -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: barclay@king.trs.ntc.nokia.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 4.0 Date: 7 Nov 1995 12:55:32 GMT Organization: The Electric Scribe Co. Ltd. Message-ID: <47nl04$ce3@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Keywords: MACH, BSD Hi, Anyone of you who is using NS 4.0 ... Can you tall which version of MACH it is based on ? Is it MACH 3.0 or still a MACH2.0/2.5 Hybrid? Can you tell which version of BSD it is based on ? Thanks Alan. -- Alan Barclay The Electric Scribe Co. Ltd. alan@escribe.co.uk
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 7 Nov 1995 16:00:11 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> With the release of the NeXT 3.3 patch it has finally become apparent to me that those people using dialup PPP need a great support app. This is a RFD (Request for Development ;) call. There are times when I would like to download huge files. Many of the demonstration packages (OpenWrite, X, etc) are 3+ MB. Much larger for some. For those of us connected through a PPP link, we are talking "all night" to download some of the larger of these. To solve the problem it would be nice it I could split up a file and download it in parts. As I see it, there are 2 options. An FTP client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. Thus I can download while I'm normally connected, and then shutdown the link when I want my phone back. Next time I'm on, I can restart. The problem here is that the peer must run the new FTP server. I don't think this is such a great approach unless the FTP server can run on any machine (maybe somebody on the net can donate space to run the daemon) as a proxy. The proxy could temporarily cache the file until the transfer was complete (or some long timeout expired). There would need to be good support in the client for reconnection etc. Another approach follows that of Xanthus's SplitBuilder. However, this would be for FTP and not mail. Thus, if I have a shell account and some temporary space on another "well connected" machine, I can get the file, split it up, FTP all the chunks (maybe over a span of multiple PPP connections and possibly several days) and then, easily rebuild the app on the local machine (when all parts are available). There is a lot of "leeway" on what a client can do when using such an approach. There could be some real support here. If these tools (at least the splitter) could be written in a nice portable mechanism, then the "well connected machine" could be almost any architecture. I know that this stuff can probably be done with shell scripts. However, I was envisioning a better interface (something like SplitReceiver). Each file part is numbered and checksummed and can be conveniently dropped into the re-builder. Again, I believe what is needed is something similar to Xanthus's SplitBuilder (but for FTP). IMHO, they have a nice interface and a good mechanism. I just can't afford their product and I don't think Mail is the best way to deal with this. Any thoughts or takers? - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 07 Nov 1995 11:03:40 -0800 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <ed9b4qmb7.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <perkins@cps.msu.edu> writes: >With the release of the NeXT 3.3 patch it has finally become apparent to me >that those people using dialup PPP need a great support app. This is a RFD >(Request for Development ;) call. >There are times when I would like to download huge files. Many of the >demonstration packages (OpenWrite, X, etc) are 3+ MB. Much larger for some. >For those of us connected through a PPP link, we are talking "all night" to >download some of the larger of these. >To solve the problem it would be nice it I could split up a file and >download it in parts. As I see it, there are 2 options. An FTP >client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. Both mirror.pl and ncftp will do that. ncftp will also do recursive ftp too. Is there any demand for an ncftp binary? I might be able to spare to time to put an obese binary together. Thus I can >download while I'm normally connected, and then shutdown the link when I >want my phone back. Next time I'm on, I can restart. The problem here is >that the peer must run the new FTP server. I don't think this is such a >great approach unless the FTP server can run on any machine (maybe somebody >on the net can donate space to run the daemon) as a proxy. The proxy could >temporarily cache the file until the transfer was complete (or some long >timeout expired). There would need to be good support in the client for >reconnection etc. If you want stuff split up into chucks consider using an ftpmail server. >Another approach follows that of Xanthus's SplitBuilder. However, this >would be for FTP and not mail. Thus, if I have a shell account and some >temporary space on another "well connected" machine, I can get the file, >split it up, FTP all the chunks (maybe over a span of multiple PPP >connections and possibly several days) and then, easily rebuild the app on >the local machine (when all parts are available). There is a lot of >"leeway" on what a client can do when using such an approach. There could >be some real support here. >If these tools (at least the splitter) could be written in a nice portable >mechanism, then the "well connected machine" could be almost any >architecture. Perl's portable enough for me :-) -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: temp995@ips.ca (jackie downy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (((((( Fetish Hotline Call 011-592-586-442 ))))) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 05:02:36 GMT Organization: internet passport services inc. Message-ID: <47p1fu$327@news2.his.com>
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Report of Improper Post Date: 8 Nov 1995 05:34:12 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-i-17.usc.edu Message-ID: <47pfgk$a03@usc.edu> This was posted to "comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.misc, etc.": ================================================== (((((( Fetish Hotline Call 011-592-586-442 ))))) by jackie downy, internet passport services inc. ================================================== And this was in the header: ================================================== From: temp995@ips.ca (jackie downy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (((((( Fetish Hotline Call 011-592-586-442 ))))) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 05:02:36 GMT Organization: internet passport services inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <47p1fu$327@news2.his.com> Reply-To: temp995@ips.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: s25.ips.ca ================================================== -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV | finger for PGP key "Brooding's the word. Saw him kick the rose bush, kick the green ferns by the porch, decide against kicking the apple tree. God made it too firm. There, he just jumped on a dandelion."
From: Kevin P. Hannan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 8 Nov 1995 05:34:46 GMT Organization: Future Services, Inc. Message-ID: <47pfhm$lok@news.atlcom.net> References: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Stephen J. Perkins wrote: > > With the release of the NeXT 3.3 patch it has finally become apparent to me > that those people using dialup PPP need a great support app. This is a RFD > (Request for Development ;) call. > client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. Thus I can > download while I'm normally connected, and then shutdown the link when I > want my phone back. Next time I'm on, I can restart. YFTP supports reconnections already. I think it is on orst. -- Kevin --
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: VT100 serial Terminal emulator for NeXTStep Date: 8 Nov 1995 08:46:38 GMT Organization: Daimler-Benz AG Message-ID: <47pqpe$cmo@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi, I'm looking for a VT100 terminal emulator for NeXTStep, wich get it's input from and writes it's output to a serial port. Does such a program exist for NeXTStep? Tanks... .Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: Adrian Boone <a.boone@kainos.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to IFF? Date: 8 Nov 1995 09:53:03 GMT Organization: Kainos Software Ltd. Message-ID: <47pum0$g05@bsdi002.britain.eu.net> References: <46thp1$65e@speering.alleg.edu> <gerhard.815401042@bauv111> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gerhard@bauv111.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Gerhard Kozuschek) wrote: >There is a TIFF datatype on AmiNet. Load a TIFF picture with >MultiView (which came with Amiga-OS 3.0) and chose save from >the menu. MultiView will then save a IFF.ILBM picture. There is also a TIFFview program on the aminet which will view TIFF, JPEG, GIF and IFF files and can save as IFF. Adrian -- ** Adrian Boone, A1200 6MB 420MB Connor HD ** ** Carrickfergus, HI-Q/Squirrel CDROM ** ** Northern Ireland, ZIP Drive (soon) **
From: temp995@ips.ca (jackie downy) Organization: internet passport services inc. Message-ID: <cancel.47p1fu$327@news2.his.com> Control: cancel <47p1fu$327@news2.his.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <47p1fu$327@news2.his.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 21:26:54 KST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to generate PS-Screenshots for LaTeX2e ?? Message-ID: <1995Nov8.114605.45647@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: Dirk Krampe <krampe@ifi.wwz.unibas.ch> Date: 8 Nov 95 11:46:05 MET I would like to include some screenshots in a LaTeX2e document. I tried to grab the contents of a window with Grap.app, converted the TIFF into an EPS-file and inserted the image using \epsfig{}, but the result was horrible, because scaling a TIFF will always be not satisfying. I think this problem should not be so difficult because you can send each NEXTSTEP window the printPScode message, but I could not find any tool or hint for this. Any suggestions? Thanks Dirk --- =================================================================== Dirk Krampe phone: ++41 61 267 3254 (office) Universitaet Basel ++49 7621 77909 (private) Institut fuer Informatik / WWZ fax: ++41 61 267 3251 Petersgraben 51 email: krampe@ifi.wwz.unibas.ch CH-4051 Basel (NeXT-Mail accepted) ===================================================================
From: mjantti@aton.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: faxing to a group Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 07 Nov 1995 15:03:57 GMT Organization: Abo Akademi University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Nov7170357@aton.abo.fi> I recall seeing somewhere a post about faxing to a group of users. As I remember it, the author said the User's guide had a description of how this is done. The User's guide, however, has no such description and I would like to know if faxing to a Group, defined in Addresses, is possible. Thanks, markus -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-0-643 747 (Home/Voice) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office/Voice) 358-0-3489 233 (Home/Fax) | 358-21-2654 677 (Office/Fax)
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 8 Nov 1995 11:48:09 -0500 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <47qn0a$ltm@oclc.org> References: <47lvlf$dpc@oclc.org> <815736836snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> <Pine.HPP.3.91.951107160902.10745A-100000@hphalle6a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz (scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) wrote: : On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Cedar Systems wrote: : > > : > Use Preferences.app to turn the power off feature back on. It is usually one : > of the right most preferences options. You may need to log in as root to get : > this option on Preferences. : > You will need to reboot "by hand" for the change to take effect. : > : Huuu! This guy has the feature turned on? I was looking how to turn it : on, and Preference.app just doesn't work for me. Hmmm. : So there seem to be people wanting this feature turned on and can't turn : it on and vice versa --- strange new world... : Greetings, : Boerny. As the original poster, let me verify that modifying Preferences as described above did the trick. Thanks to everyone who replied via the net or email! Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXTmail appreciated!) 614-764-6215
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: VT100 serial Terminal emulator for NeXTStep Date: 9 Nov 1995 00:17:11 GMT Organization: My Bedroom, Ravenna, MI Message-ID: <47rha7$rfs@news.it.gvsu.edu> References: <47pqpe$cmo@news.sns-felb.debis.de> In article <47pqpe$cmo@news.sns-felb.debis.de>, Ralf Specht <specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM> wrote: >Hi, > >I'm looking for a VT100 terminal emulator for NeXTStep, wich >get it's input from and writes it's output to a serial port. Try tip or cu with Terminal.app. -- Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME> Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Japanese on OpenStep/NEXTSTEP Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:15:24 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <47qvkc$q2e@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> I want to develop an application that is able to display (and preferably input) Japanese text, and I am trying to look into the feasibility of this. I don't have the Japanized version of NEXTSTEP. The two main problems I see for NEXTSTEP are lack of Unicode and lack of fonts. The first problem will be solved with OpenStep. I'm not sure how you would work around that in regular NEXTSTEP, or if it's even possible. Even if I do wait until NS 4.0, there is still the font problem. I don't think that there are any free PostScript fonts for Japanese. I have seen some bitmap fonts out there. Is it possible to convert bitmaps fonts into NS PostScript fonts? I would normally expect it to look pretty cheesy, but I seem to recall reading that DPS uses ordinary bitmap fonts for normal point sizes anyway. Printing would be another matter.. but I have some software under Windows that uses 48x48 bitmap fonts, and they look suprisingly good on my laser printer. So maybe the font problem is solvable. So, any suggestions? (No, I don't want to involve X, either.) It seems that it would be pretty tough to display Japanese with a normal text object, because there are far more kanji than there are ASCII codes. Would it be necessary to resort to drawing bitmaps to a window? I assume this problem would go away with NS 4.0, and it would only be necessary to find a font. (P.S. Any pointers to Japanese-related software that runs under regular NEXTSTEP would also be welcome. I ran across an edict interface called NXJisho, but it was binary-only for M68K, and the author's e-mail address doesn't work..) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Urban | e-mail: nurban@mail.vt.edu Undergraduate {CS,Physics}, Virginia Tech | WWW: http://nurban.campus.vt.edu/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Michael Zedeler <mike@dannug.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [HELP] How do I make my new(used) NeXT work? Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:48:21 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <951108204821.412AAE5E.mike@nexia> References: <colen-1310951404320001@ip-pdx09-27.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > When I boot, it says "Testing system...", opens a NeXT ROM monitor >2.4 (v65) window. Testings some more stuff (all the tests pass). Then >gives me a "NeXT>" prompt. > How do I boot into the NeXT OS? ctrl-D. If you get stuck here every time the computer boots, something must be wrong. > How do I get anything to display in color? Same as above. > Why, whenever I try to execute most of the programs, does it just >access the HD, then freeze up? How can I make the programs run properly? I guess you never made it to the login-panel -- I don't know what happens if you try to execute any applications from the monitor, but you are not supposed to. > The person I bought this from said he has tried to install the latest >update to the NeXT OS, but wasn't able to get it working properly. I'm >not sure what he's done, or at what stage he left off. > > What software should I have installed to make things work properly? Re-install NeXTSTEP from scratch. It is not very difficult. Just stick to the defaults suggested by the installation program. Michael.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ggoldwyn@netcom.com (iRock.Communications) Subject: gif/jpeg & OmniWeb Message-ID: <ggoldwynDHrB3A.K8q@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 03:30:46 GMT Sender: ggoldwyn@netcom9.netcom.com I'm running OmniWeb from the 8/95 Nebula CD. I copied it over to my hard drive and it runs fine and loads pages. But none of the inline images load. I get square graduated grey boxes with red "NO" line circles. What am I doing wrong? -- This is my sig. It's not much, but neither is this account.
From: quinonez@ucla.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where can I get NxFax? Date: 9 Nov 1995 07:27:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <47sahu$177g@saba.info.ucla.edu> Please let me know where I can get it. Is it shareware? Please email to: quinonez@ucla.edu NeXT Mail ok. Thank you
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to find an assembler for the M56k? Date: 9 Nov 1995 02:20:57 GMT Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Distribution: na Message-ID: <47roi9$1pc@agate.berkeley.edu> I had a brainstorm today and wrote out an assembly language program that will do computations related to my thesis. I'd like to compile it for the M56k chip in my slab and leave it humming along in the background. (It's randomly wandering through, say, 300! possibilities...) I only need about 4Kb of RAM, so that's not a problem. For some unknown reason, the DSP subdirectories in my developer package are empty, so I'm at a little bit of a loss. Thanks for any help. (Like directions to a copy of ASM56k!) Paul
From: ts110@can.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I enable swapfile compression on TurboColor? Date: 9 Nov 1995 12:36:17 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Message-ID: <47ssk1$epj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On a related note: does anyone know how to get a second swapfile on an external disk to compress? I have added a second drive to my system and created a swapfile on it. It works fine, but it won't compress (there is no file swapfile.front). Also, during system boot I receive the following message error mounting /users/private/vm/swapfile.front - device busy (this is from memory so it is probably not character-for-character correct).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Re: gif/jpeg & OmniWeb Message-ID: <DHsABw.2q2@prosoft.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. References: <ggoldwynDHrB3A.K8q@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:11:56 GMT iRock.Communications writes > I'm running OmniWeb from the 8/95 Nebula CD. I copied it over to my hard > drive and it runs fine and loads pages. But none of the inline images > load. I get square graduated grey boxes with red "NO" line circles. > > What am I doing wrong? > > > -- > This is my sig. It's not much, but neither is this account. You need filter services that can convert the 'foreign' image formats to .tiffs. ImageViewer.app (available at the Next Web Site) can do the common ones. It fires up as an app at the first request it receives to filter an image. I prefer the services that run as binaries in the background. I know of two of them: OmniImageFilter.service and PBMImageFilter.service. These get placed in ..Library/Services. OmniImageFilter is at the Omni Development site. PBMImageFilter is at orst. (This is a bit fussy to get working; file ownership and permissions, etc). http://www.next.com/WebObjects/ImageViewer.html http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniImageFilter/ ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/graphics/PBMImageFilterBinaries.ta r.Z -- Glen Biagioni ProSoft Solutions Inc. glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail Welcome) Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)324-9431
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Report of Improper Post Date: 08 Nov 1995 23:38:37 -0800 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <eohumkzk2.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <47pfgk$a03@usc.edu> To: reichman@scf.usc.edu Excuse me but why are you posting it again? -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: brzez@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (Time will fly.. tonight...) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep not Recognizing DOS partitions on 4.3 gig drive Date: 9 Nov 1995 18:02:15 GMT Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL Message-ID: <47tfn7$4q6@fnnews.fnal.gov> I just got a Seagate Barracuda (ST15100N) and installed it in my system. The Drive is really fast and after monkeying around with disktab, fdisk, and fstab I was finally able to install NeXStep on the drive. I partitioned the drive into 4 1.075 gig partitions. NeXTStep lives on the first. Dos on the second and Linux on the third. I have a shareware boot manager that allows me to boot from any partition as long as that partition is BIOS accessible which my Adaptec 1542 compatible controller handles very well. Everything works fine and fast but I am unable to access my DOS partition from NeXTStep. Is there some trick to this? Under Linux, I am able to acces the partition easily, so either I'm not doing/configuring things right, or NeXTStep is not capable of recognizing this partition (even though it does recognize my IDE DOS drives). Any help? Thanks.. -- John
From: schaub@tamu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXFax + ZyXEL E2864 ? Date: 9 Nov 1995 17:47:33 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <47terl$1qh@news.tamu.edu> I have just replaced my ZyXEL 1496 with an E2864 modem on a mono Nextstation running NS3.2 with NXFax installed as the driver. Unfortunately, the computer no longer reponds to incoming calls! I can dial out, connect ppp, even fax out. But when an incoming call arrives, the NXFaxMonitor pops up, but as a status it still says that it is waiting on a call and never picks up!! Anyone out there use this modem with NXFax? I figured since the ZyXEL 1496 was supported by NXFax, surely the newer modem would be compatible too? HP -- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: rkswamy@unity.ncsu.edu (Ravi Krishna Swamy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help installing NS 3.3 for intel with EIDE hardware Date: 9 Nov 1995 21:01:00 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <47tq6c$bvp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> I have been having a lot of problems trying to get NS 3.3 for intel to work properly. I can install it but basically when I reboot I get some errors and have to reboot. The long story is at: ftp://ftp.csc.ncsu.edu/pub/eos_users/r/rkswamy/NeXTSTEP/next.problems I was getting a /usr/Devices/EIDE.config error. I have copied the EIDE.config dir from the v3.31 driver update floppy into /usr/Devices, I basically did a tar and untar so all of the files are there. When I reboot I get these errors: /dev/rhd0a: file system clean: skipping check Can't open /dev/rsd0a (null pointer): CAN'T CHECK FILESYSTEM and it dropped me back into single user mode. I grepped in a few dirs to check for /dev/rsd0a. I could find no mentioning of this device in /usr/Devices/EIDE.config or in a subdir. I did find it mentioned twice in /etc/disk but this is a binary file and /etc/disktab did not mention the rsd0a device. I also did a df and ran fdisk. df says that my root or "/" partition is /dev/hd0a This matches the info in /etc/fstab. The fstab file also has an entry for /dev/sd0a which looks like my EIDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drive because NeXTSTEP is supposed to make it look like a SCSI device hence the "s" in "sd"? fdisk said that my device was: Device: /dev/rhd0h It would seem that /dev/rhd0h would be the first IDE or EIDE hard drive and perhaps /dev/rsd0a is the first SCSI hard drive? I do not have any SCSI devices except for the ATAPI CD-ROM drive which is made to look like a SCSI device. I would think that removing an entry somewhere for /dev/rsd0a might solve the problem but I have not been able to find an entry for it in a plain ascii text file. I would appreciate any further help or suggestions that you have. Thank you. Ravi -- Ravi K. Swamy http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/r/rkswamy/www/ rkswamy@eos.ncsu.edu root@genom.com
From: jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pre-Compiled Utils for NeXT? Date: 10 Nov 1995 00:01:08 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <47u4o4$1kp@mozart.jlc.net> Hello All, After perusing the Net for TeX utilities, I've found a bunch (bibtools, textools, l2a, tex2rtf, etc.,) but all of them are source code. My NeXT OS is version 3.2, which left off the developer tools (notably, strangely, cc). Does anyone out there either have some of these utilities compiled for next that they can send me, or have a pointer to where I might find them? Thanks very much, James Also, thanks to everyone who pointed me to intro texts...gentle.ps is great. -- _____________________________________________________________________ | The Rev. James David Meacham | | e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net | -------------------------------------------------------------------- Whirlpools whirl Dragnets drag Hell is not the fire Hell is your belief In yourself as the higher---Peter Murphy
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Image filters/services question. Date: 10 Nov 1995 00:19:53 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <47u2ap$9ht@alf.uib.no> I'm not wsure what I've done wrong... NSfIP3.3: I installed ImageViewer.app I installed OmniImage.app I installed OmniImageFilter.serveice When I start OmniWeb/OmniImage.app, Inspector in the Browser ImageViewer also starts (obviously Omni is calling on IV to provide services), despite that I have (inPreferences) specified Omni as default viewer (both for myself and as root when I installed). I'm sure I had exactly the same setup on my cube, but ImageViewer was never called up after OmniImage - it started only when I clicked on the app. So - what have I done and how do I fix it (i.e. I want only Omni to sevice unsupported image formats, if I want ImageViewer started I'll start it from the FileViewer.) E-mail encouraged. Regards, --- -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: pixel8ed@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Pixelated Technologies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS:NeXT Color Station Date: 9 Nov 1995 15:42:32 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <47u3l8$ggo@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NeXT colorstation 16MB RAM 400 MB Drive 21" color monitor NeXTSTEP 3.3 installed PLUS NeXT Laser printer (as is) .....................................$1900 or best offer. p.s. we have LOTS of other NeXT Hardware, Software, and Peripherals for sale!! call or reply to this address if you're interested. -- Pixelated Technologies The source for NeXT and NeXTStep (415)-554-0546 1-800-PIXEL-ME
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 9 Nov 1995 12:01:10 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <47sqi6$21g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <47pfhm$lok@news.atlcom.net> In <47pfhm$lok@news.atlcom.net> Kevin P. Hannan wrote: : In <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Stephen J. Perkins wrote: : > : > With the release of the NeXT 3.3 patch it has finally become apparent to : me : > that those people using dialup PPP need a great support app. This is a : RFD : > (Request for Development ;) call. : > : : client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. Thus I can : > download while I'm normally connected, and then shutdown the link when I : > want my phone back. Next time I'm on, I can restart. : : YFTP supports reconnections already. I think it is on orst. : Well, as far as I have used YFTP it has to transfer the whole file again, but just starts writing where it stopped before. So you don't save time at all. --- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 10 Nov 1995 04:51:38 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <47ulor$ns6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: > There are times when I would like to download huge files. Many > of the demonstration packages (OpenWrite, X, etc) are 3+ MB. > Much larger for some. For those of us connected through a PPP > link, we are talking "all night" to download some of the larger > of these. One solution for *some* of these files is to split them up by architecture, so you only have to download the code you'll actually use. I do that for the few files I make available on eclipse. Some people seem to appreciate it. There's a number of things where that doesn't really help enough, though... And no, I have no intention of putting the NS-3.3 patches up on eclipse!! :-) > To solve the problem it would be nice it I could split up a file > and download it in parts. As I see it, there are 2 options. An > FTP client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. > [...] The problem here is that the peer must run the new FTP > server. There are ftp servers that allow you to specify something.tar.gz or something.tar.Z to pick up a file (or directory) in the format you want. You'd just want an extension to that, I'd think. Yeah, it'd take awhile for such a modified daemon to get around, but I think it'd be a reasonable approach. Note that the load added to the FTP server to provide this function wouldn't be significant (certainly not when compared to gzipping a file!). It'd just index <x*n> bytes into the file when you asked for piece #x. > I don't think this is such a great approach unless the FTP server > can run on any machine (maybe somebody on the net can donate > space to run the daemon) as a proxy. I can't imagine anyone wanting to offer up a machine as a proxy for anyone doing ftp's to other machines. The security implications alone would frighten me off. > Another approach follows that of Xanthus's SplitBuilder. However, > this would be for FTP and not mail. Thus, if I have a shell > account and some temporary space on another "well connected" > machine, I can get the file, split it up, FTP all the chunks > (maybe over a span of multiple PPP connections and possibly > several days) and then, easily rebuild the app on the local > machine (when all parts are available). [...] > > If these tools (at least the splitter) could be written in a nice > portable mechanism, then the "well connected machine" could be > almost any architecture. > > I know that this stuff can probably be done with shell scripts. > However, I was envisioning a better interface (something like > SplitReceiver). Each file part is numbered and checksummed and > can be conveniently dropped into the re-builder. A combination of a shell script or a simple C program with md5 would do the trick, I think. split the file, checksum the pieces, and include that as a separate file. The file with the checksums in it would list the names of all the pieces, their checksums, and have a unique suffix. Probably have the original file name too, so the pieces could have whatever filenames the program wanted to put on them. thus, the pieces could even be in the stupid 8.3 format that DOS gave to the world. That'd be kinda icky, of course. Since the file with the checksum would have a unique prefix, add support to Opener for that prefix. The user would double-click on the file with the checksums in it. The support would expect all the pieces to be in the same directory as the filename which had the checksums in it. Note that it wouldn't take too much thinking to have the *same* split-apart mechanism used both for a customized version of ftpd, and for a standalone util that you'd use on that "well-connected machine with temporary space" when the desired ftp site doesn't have the customized ftp daemon. Seems simple enough. Wonder if anyone's done it already. (I don't have any idea if it already exists, but it does seem simple and it does seem like a useful idea). Now if I could just remember where I got md5 from... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel: Power Off Button "Greyed Out"?? Date: 10 Nov 1995 10:42:45 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Distribution: world Message-ID: <47vab5$jdr@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <47qn0a$ltm@oclc.org> Instead of pressing the button you may also type 'power' as the username and the system will halt. 'restart' works also. 'exit' restarts only the window server. Robert. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o ------- _`\<,_ fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: Is NeXT planning a port of NeXSTEP to the PowerPC? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:36:40 GMT Organization: BEKKOAME//INTERNET Inc. Tokyo, Japan. Message-ID: <951110183640.6211AAC1H.hshimizu@roi> References: <47fvd1$97k@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: Power PC, NEXTSTEP gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) wrote: >I guess the title of the article says it all. Is NeXT currently >planning a port to the PowerPC?? I really would like to know!! Also, >are they going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha?? Steven Jobs was asked this question by a fellow at the SunSPARC show at the Makuhari Messe in Tokyo this summer. He replied that "we are ready to do this [putting NS on PowerPC] if we see a lot of our customers using that platform. But we don't see that." A pitty that NeXT has chosen to shut the doors to all other markets than Mission Critical. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- HANS SHIMIZU KARLSSON Internet Presence Consultant Internet Cafe Co., Ltd. Lions Garden 107, 6-27-1 Shinjuku Shinjuku-ku Tokyo, JAPAN 160 Home page http://www.webcom.com/~hanske/ ______________________________________________________________ E-Mail hanske@pobox.com (<1MB messages) NeXTmail, SunMail, MIME, plain vanilla text ______________________________________________________________ Phone +81 -3 5286-7636 (direct) Fax +81 -3 5286-7637 ______________________________________________________________ Cross cultural Internet promotion: Get info by sending mail to hanske@pobox.com On the subject line, type "cafe-info" (ignore the"s) -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
From: jlendino@panix.com (James Lendino) Newsgroups: ny.forsale,nj.forsale,misc.forsale,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS: NeXTSTEP 3.3/3.2 Developer for PC Date: 10 Nov 1995 01:21:03 -0500 Organization: Panix Message-ID: <47ur0f$dt5@panix2.panix.com> NeXTSTEP 3.3/3.2 developer Academic license (same exact program, but $300 instead of $1000); must be a student, faculty, or otherwise affiliated w/educational institution to register includes all manuals, all CD-ROMs, absolutely everything. never used. perfect. includes NeXTSTEP OS and full developer kit (too much to mention here). Asking $275 including shipping. Best, Jamie
From: david@onestep.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep Media Replacement Cost Date: 10 Nov 1995 11:03:42 GMT Organization: EUnet-GB distributed news service, +44 227 266466 Message-ID: <47vbig$1t4@bsdi002.britain.eu.net> References: <47ju0p$6rc@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <47ju0p$6rc@news.acns.nwu.edu> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > Ivo Welch writes > > > After some conversations with NeXT Order management, they offered to make a > > media replacement available to me at the special price of $155 > > +tax+shipping= $177.03. > > > > Well, next time that NS crashes and corrupts the disk enough, I guess I > > will leave NeXTStep for linux. > > Don't do that---we would miss your input here. If you were local, I > would be delighted to let you use my copy in such an event, provided > of course that you could demonstrate a valid license. I am sure that > there is someone on your side of the lake who feels the same way; at > worst, you could offer to pay transatlantic shipping both ways and a > $25 goodwill fee, and still come out ahead of NeXT's reprehensible > media replacement policy. > > I wish to God these calculations /============================================= > had been executed by steam! / Joshua W Burton 708/677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu > -- C. Babbage, 1821 /=============================================== Hi, Totally agree with the above and as we are on your "side of the lake" give us a call and we will send an engineer out to confirm your licence and help you re-install if needed. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions plc | UK phone: 01702 551010 | Vendors of NS/OS 351-359 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Re: Image filters/services question. Message-ID: <DHu497.29D@prosoft.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. References: <47u2ap$9ht@alf.uib.no> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:55:55 GMT Thor Legvold writes > > I'm not wsure what I've done wrong... > NSfIP3.3: > I installed ImageViewer.app > I installed OmniImage.app > I installed OmniImageFilter.serveice > > When I start OmniWeb/OmniImage.app, Inspector in the Browser > ImageViewer also starts (obviously Omni is calling on IV > to provide services), despite that I have (inPreferences) > specified Omni as default viewer (both for myself and > as root when I installed). I'm not sure what you mean by this. I haven't seen such a preference. > I'm sure I had exactly the > same setup on my cube, but ImageViewer was never called up > after OmniImage - it started only when I clicked on the > app. > > So - what have I done and how do I fix it (i.e. I want only Omni > to sevice unsupported image formats, if I want ImageViewer > started I'll start it from the FileViewer.) > I don't know what you have done, but what I have done is edited the services file in ImageViewer.app to remove its desire to convert image formats that the other filter services can handle. Open the ImageViewer.app wrapper, find the services file, edit it by removing SendType: lines. I suggest you save the original file first. I think executing make_services at a shell line will reorganize things internally (rather than logging out and in again). > E-mail encouraged. > > Regards, > --- > -- > Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life > NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... > University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors > Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail) -- Glen Biagioni ProSoft Solutions Inc. glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail Welcome) Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)324-9431
From: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXFax + ZyXEL E2864 ? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:06:36 -0500 Organization: University of Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <magnan-1011951406410001@10.0.2.15> References: <47terl$1qh@news.tamu.edu> In article <47terl$1qh@news.tamu.edu>, schaub@tamu.edu wrote: > I have just replaced my ZyXEL 1496 with an E2864 modem on a mono Nextstation running > NS3.2 with NXFax installed as the driver. Unfortunately, the computer no longer reponds to > incoming calls! I can dial out, connect ppp, even fax out. But when an incoming call arrives, > the NXFaxMonitor pops up, but as a status it still says that it is waiting on a call and never > picks up!! > > Anyone out there use this modem with NXFax? I figured since the ZyXEL 1496 was > supported by NXFax, surely the newer modem would be compatible too? > > HP > > > -- > Hanspeter Schaub > Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant > Aerospace Engineering Department > Texas A&M University > http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub > schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) > > We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! > -Jonathon Livingston Seagull I tried it and it didnŒt work. I tried the old version. When I tried it BW were working on a new version that would support the E2864. Francois Magnan P.S.: I prefer using ŒamŒ with the 2864 because it letŒs you receive faxes and voicemail. -- Francois Magnan magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: Re: Should I enable swapfile compression on TurboColor? Message-ID: <DHu6DK.CBr@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <47ssk1$epj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:41:43 GMT In article <47ssk1$epj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ts110@can.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: > On a related note: does anyone know how to get a second swapfile on an external > disk to compress? I have added a second drive to my system and created a > swapfile on it. It works fine, but it won't compress (there is no file > swapfile.front). Also, during system boot I receive the following message > > error mounting /users/private/vm/swapfile.front - device busy > > (this is from memory so it is probably not character-for-character correct). The man page says that only the first swapfile is compressible, so it should be made preferential. -- Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome. School of Optometry | http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~mario University of Waterloo | Waterloo, Ontario | "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Canada, N2L 3G1 | -- Bill Gates '81
From: borrel@mashallah (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to attach a line printer? Date: 10 Nov 1995 19:23:28 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Message-ID: <4808rg$47@hod.hiof.no> I need to attach a simple line printer to take things like simple email files, man pages, and text files that I can spool from the shell. Does anyone know if I can attach an old AppleWriter? Do I need a printcap file? What would it look like? - Barre PS - please keep my sig in the answer for my newsreading agent to find. -- Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/ludvigsen/ finger: borrel@mashallah.ludvigsen.hiof.no
From: asr@access.kuwait.net (Ahmad Al-Rasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which PPP should I use ? Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:20:27 GMT Organization: Gulfnet Kuwait Message-ID: <480c6b$fsp@gulfa.kuwait.net> Actually I have 2 questions. 1) Which PPP should I download to use with my NexStep OS. I am getting 1 in 2 weeks time and would like to be prepared. 2) Which browser (Free/Commercial) is like netscape in displaying images. (gradual, parallel display) ? Thanx.
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:15:03 GMT Organization: A Big Black Cube Message-ID: <480bs7$joc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <47nvqb$15m5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <47pfhm$lok@news.atlcom.net> <47sqi6$21g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote: > Well, as far as I have used YFTP it has to transfer the whole file again, > but just starts writing where it stopped before. So you don't save time at > all. My version does this just fine, for one week Orst was real slow (1k or less per sec) and I need a 4.8MB file. I got it over a period of 4 days. It immediately picked up where it left off. I am using ver 0.447 -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: zachary@willis.cis.uab.edu (John Zachary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Canonical List of NeXT MustHave Software Date: 10 Nov 1995 19:34:12 -0600 Organization: Dept of CIS, Univ. of Al at Birmingham Message-ID: <480uik$6p5@mayfair.cis.uab.edu> Realizing that everyone's list will be different, what is the list of must-have software for NS? Particularly, what is the best terminal communications program (for dialing up to shell accounts to check mail and use zmodem to download all of this great stuff). I just installed NS today on my Intel-based PC, and I think it is very cool. I have had Linux, NT, Windows, and OS/2 installed at various times, and NS really seems to compete. -John -- John Zachary (graduate student) http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/grads/jmz (home page) http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/grads/jmz/be.html (unofficial Be home page) "Who needs crack? Buy a BeBox."
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.sys.sgi.misc,rec.games.computer.doom.misc,alt.games.quake Subject: RESULT: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing} pass Supersedes: <rec.games.computer.quake-CFV2a@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 10 Nov 1995 21:37:01 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.quake-RESULTa@uunet.uu.net> References: <43mttl$83h@rodan.UU.NET>,<rec.games.computer.quake-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> <rec.games.computer.quake-CFV2a@uunet.uu.net> Archive-Name: rec.games.computer.quake RESULT moderated group rec.games.computer.quake.announce passes 195:42 unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.editing passes 189:45 unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.misc passes 199:43 Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 195 42 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.announce 189 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.editing 199 43 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.misc 6 invalid votes Newsgroups lines: rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/Announcements about Quake. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files. rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion of Quake. Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 10 Nov 1995. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Kyle R. Hofmann <rhofmann@crl.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: all groups Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of messages about Quake. The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes, the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is around 51%). Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide. | Actual number of readers in sampled population | | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all | | | Recent traffic (messages per month) | | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month) | | | | | Crossposting percentage | | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr | | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders | | | | | | | | who read this group. Month Rank V V V V V V V V jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will be posted in November when more information about Quake is available. These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic messages in other newsgroups. CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.announce This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings, announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new servers, reviews, etc. The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the following addresses: Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.editing Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software will release an editor which will allow people to create their own universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some of them have already been developed but will not be released before Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors, editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats. Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc instead (or in .playing when this group is created). CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.misc This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created. Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with other games, piracy, etc. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.computer.quake.announce Moderator: Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk> Administrative contact address: quake-request@mantis.co.uk Article submission address: quake@mantis.co.uk END MODERATOR INFO. rec.games.compuer.quake Final Vote Ack rec.games.computer.quake.misc -----+ rec.games.computer.quake.editing ----+| rec.games.computer.quake.announce ---+|| ||| 0002000288@mcimail.com FRANK RICHARDS Y-- 102116.33@compuserve.com Allen Shields YYY abentley@uk.mdis.com Adam Bentley Y-- ad327@rgfn.epcc.Edu Matt W. Spencer YYY adam.spiers@new.oxford.ac.uk Adam Spiers YYY ak431112@peabody.iusb.indiana.edu Derek Wade YYY amoon@odin.mdn.com Alex R. Moon YYY ark@Onramp.NET Andrew R Komonchak Jr YYY arnulf@arnulf.dialup.fu-berlin.de Arnulf H.-P. Guenther YYY arromdee@blaze.cs.jhu.edu Ken Arromdee --N art50504@leonis.nus.sg Lim Cheng Hin Alvin -YY arthur@clark.net Arthur C. Adams NNN asveenst@mtu.edu Aaron S. 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From: Spike@scf.edu (Tommy Trojan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SoftRAM Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:41:57 -0900 Organization: The USC Nut Distribution: world Message-ID: <Spike-1011952341570001@pma165.loop.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 9, 1995 COMDEX Booth #S7721 Contact: Diana Soltesz / Steve Smith Smith Public Relations (310) 788-0456 SYNCRONYS REPORTS TESTS CONFIRM SOFTRAM95 DOUBLES RAM CULVER CITY, Calif. -- Syncronys Softcorp (OTC: SYCR) today announced the results of a commissioned evaluation of the company's SoftRAM95 product which confirms that the company's best-selling product SoftRAM95 effectively doubles Random Access Memory (RAM). The study was conducted by XXCAL, Inc. Testing Laboratories of Los Angeles, CA, an independent software testing company. Win16 Benchmark Testing was conducted on a variety of systems using Syncronys' SoftRAM95 under Windows 3.1 and 3.11 environments. XXCAL is a world leader in compatibility, certification and functionality testing for software products. A copy of the full report is available on request from the company. The results were summarized by XXCAL as follows: "Under the Windows 3.1 and 3.11 environments, Syncronys Softcorp's SoftRAM95 (v2.001) increases RAM dramatically. The results show that SoftRAM95 effectively doubles system RAM (i.e. from 8MB to 16MB) in a manner that is equivalent to adding more physical RAM. The tests show that SoftRAM95 enables Windows to run faster, to run more and larger applications concurrently and to load larger data files. Various Windows applications were utilized to perform this benchmark." The Windows applications utilized to perform the benchmark include: CorelDRAW 5.0, Drafix 3.0, Excel 5.0, MS Office 4.2, Pagemaker 5.0 and Word 6.0. President and CEO Rainer Poertner said, "these positive results from XXCAL demonstrate clearly that our core technology delivers a substantial and measurable benefit to our users running Windows 3.1. These users are by far our largest target market. We are confident that the Windows95 upgrade version will deliver equally impressive performance once it is released." Work on the upgrade to SoftRAM95 for Windows95 continues on schedule. XXCAL will be commissioned to evaluate the upgrade once it is available. The company, as announced previously, will automatically distribute the upgrade version free to all registered users. In addition, the company announced that a leading PC publication in France has also achieved positive product test results. "We are pleased to announce that SoftRAM95 has been chosen by our editorial staff as one of the best products of the month. It has been labeled Editor's Choice," stated Michel Barreau, Managing Editor of PC Mag. "We give this distinction to software or hardware products tested which impressed us with at least two of the three following features: quality, technical characteristics and price." For the second consecutive time, SoftRAM was ranked number one on PC Magazine's Top Retail Software chart. The listing appeared in the November 7th and November 27th issues of PC Magazine. In its most recent issue, SoftRAM's shipment volume ranks ahead of Windows95 and Netscape. The November lists, compiled by Ingram Micro, rank PC business programs according to the total number of copies shipped to over 12,000 stores and resellers in the weeks ending September 9 and September 16. Since its release in May 1995, Syncronys has generated sales of more than 650,000 units of SoftRAM. SoftRAM95 is an innovative software product that effectively doubles the amount of memory available to Windows applications. Unique among memory products, SoftRAM95 uses proprietary compression technology that actually enhances physical RAM. SoftRAM95 works with any 386, 486, or Pentium PC, desktop or notepad and offers additional features over the best-selling original version of SoftRAM. Headquartered in Culver City, California, Syncronys Softcorp is a leader in the business of providing memory-enhancement and other performance-improving software for PCs. Syncronys' diversified complement of software products are sold through distribution channels worldwide. -- Anything your mind can conceive and believe...you will achieve!
From: mrothste@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 4.0 Date: 10 Nov 1995 23:30:20 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <481jec$pr3@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <47nl04$ce3@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste Keywords: MACH, BSD In article <47nl04$ce3@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com>, Alan Barclay <barclay@king.trs.ntc.nokia.com> wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone of you who is using NS 4.0 ... > >Can you tall which version of MACH it is based on ? >Is it MACH 3.0 or still a MACH2.0/2.5 Hybrid? > >Can you tell which version of BSD it is based on ? > >Thanks >Alan. > >-- >Alan Barclay >The Electric Scribe Co. Ltd. >alan@escribe.co.uk > As for bsdNeXT said 4.4 at ObjectWorld. I think that they more or less have NeXTmach now that is completely seperate from CM's Mach, but I could be wrong. -Mont
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need more help with pppd Date: 11 Nov 1995 00:11:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <480pnn$23c@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Everyone, Thank you so much for the help so far in setting up pppd, but now I need more help. I keep getting the error LCP Timeout sending config-Requests Connection terminated I have tried the -mn flag on pppd, I have tried most of the man page recommendations, does anyone know how to get around this?? I can get the serial port to send LCP-Con messages but this error keeps happening. I have chat -v in my options, I think I have tried everything, but I can't get anything to work. If it helps to know, I have a USRobotics 28.8 v.34 v.32bis I am also getting the error "Serial line is looped back" occasionally, any ideas?? Thank you in advance, Eric P espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help with boot up prompts Date: 11 Nov 1995 00:14:12 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <480psk$23c@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi all, When I boot NeXT on my machine I recieve the boot prompt. When I press enter I get the "You are upgrading prompt" and then the other "Language to use while Upgrading NeXT" prompt. How do I get rid of these two prompts? I really want to be able to boot straight into NeXT without having to deal with these every time. Thanks, Eric P espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: Spike@scf.edu (Tommy Trojan) Organization: The USC Nut Message-ID: <cancel.Spike-1011952341570001@pma165.loop.com> Control: cancel <Spike-1011952341570001@pma165.loop.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <Spike-1011952341570001@pma165.loop.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:58:12 KST
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need more help with pppd Date: 11 Nov 1995 15:12:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <482eh9$k43@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <480pnn$23c@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> > Thank you so much for the help so far in setting up pppd, but now I need > more help. > > I keep getting the error > LCP Timeout sending config-Requests > Connection terminated > I believe that the FAQ on: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ addresses that (and many other) issues. Hope this helps. - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multihoming a NeXT for serving WWW Pages Date: 11 Nov 1995 17:05:10 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <482l46$10r6@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: multi-home, virtual machines, WWW server Howdy all, From those wishing to serve multiple WWW domains, I have had (and seen posted) requests for information on multi-homing a NeXT Computer (creating virtual machines). I thought I might give the following pointer to some information on the subject: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html#MultiHome Thanks to Alberto Ricart, Paul Lynch, and (indirectly) tons of other people for this info. - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com Subject: Re: Which PPP should I use ? Message-ID: <FBA2A43001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 11 Nov 95 13:19:00 EST 1) Which PPP should I download to use with my NexStep OS. I am getting 1 in 2 weeks time and would like to be prepared. http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ free and simple. 2) Which browser (Free/Commercial) is like netscape in displaying images. (gradual, parallel display) ? http://www.netsurfer.com not free, but simple, and excellent. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: perkins@cps.msu.edu Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Message-ID: <3EA4A43001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 11 Nov 95 13:25:00 EST To solve the problem it would be nice it I could split up a file and download it in parts. As I see it, there are 2 options. An FTP client/server pair that can restart a transfer in progress. I don't know anything aboyt YFTP, but I have heard that the new version of ncftp (precompiled 4-fat on orst by Carl Edman) can pick up a transfer where you left off... it is also probably easy enough to have it run as a cron script late at night also.... However, the BEST solution (barring more nice people like Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> who split things up for us) would be for ditributions to be made that are split up already, at least into two archs (ie send out a NeXT/Intel version and a HP/Sparc version). I thought I remembered that there was somewhere you could get files sent to you via email from FTP sites.... does anyone else remember this, or am I just making it up from my own imagination and poor memory?? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Cross-posting on csn newsgroups Message-ID: <13A7A43001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 11 Nov 95 13:37:00 EST I hope this doesn't sound overly bitter, but... Does anyone else bothered by the high number of cross-posts recently? I realize that most newsreaders are capable of identifying cross-posts and marking them as such, but I get the newsgroups via email digests, which I read through a not fast dialin system. My impression is that most people in the csn newsgroups read more than one of the newsgroups, so cross-posting is unneeded. Please remember, especially with long posts, that cross-posting is probably unneccessary, is considered by some to be a little impolite, and can be downright inconvenient on top of all of that. If nothing else, please specify where followups should be sent, so replies don't go through all the groups as well. Again, this is especially true with long posts, and could be helped by those responding if they edit the original post to include just the necessary information. I really wanted to post this to more than this group, but figured/hoped that my suspicions were right and that most people read more than one group. thanks and sorry if this sounds like a mountain-from-molehill post.... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Date: 11 Nov 1995 20:15:49 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net> References: <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> In <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Heinrich Giesen wrote: > > For my own purposes and just for fun I wrote a BibTeX > frontend which you may use for managing BibTeX databases. > Here is the readme file which gives you some impression > about the application: > ------------------ I downloaded this yesterday, and this is one of the studliest programs I've seen. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. It's worth learning LaTeX just to be able to use it! Peace, James -- _____________________________________________________________________ | The Rev. James David Meacham | | e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net | -------------------------------------------------------------------- Whirlpools whirl Dragnets drag Hell is not the fire Hell is your belief In yourself as the higher---Peter Murphy
From: mickwu@kaiwan.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dial-Up Modem and Man page Problems Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:31:39 GMT Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <4834s1$jei@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Hi all, I have installed NS 3.1 on the station and didn't get any man page files. Is there a .pkg for man pages that I have to install? Another question is regarding the dial-up problem. I have made changes in both /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab. Below is the detail of the changes I've made. in ttys all I need to use is the first com port, so I have modified the ttydfa to: ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.38400 vt100 on secure ttydfb was unchange. And to reflect the std.38400 connection speed I've modified gettytab to include: h|std.38400|38400-baud:\ :sp#38400:p8=true: Since I would like to login at different speed range from 2400 to 38400. How do I make sure the gettytab will autosense and adjust to the proper speed? According to Ron Wood's article (ron@ucr.edu) couple days ago, a special wiring is required to use the hardware flow control. Currently I am not sure if I my modem cable will support hardware flow control. However, I was able to use the same cable to dial-out and was able to connect to a null modem to login from a terminal. Please leave comments or advice here in this newsgroup or E-mail to mickwu@kaiwan.com Thanks!
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Canonical List of NeXT MustHave Software Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 11 Nov 1995 23:54:24 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <slrn4aaa6q.n8.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> References: <480uik$6p5@mayfair.cis.uab.edu> [Followups redirected to comp.sys.next.software] On 10 Nov 1995 19:34:12 -0600, John Zachary <zachary@willis.cis.uab.edu> wrote: > Particularly, what is the best terminal communications program (for >dialing up to shell accounts to check mail and use zmodem to download all of >this great stuff). I recommend Cables highly. It's a great app when you compare it to terminal emulation apps on major platforms and an exceptional find on NS. I look forward to seeing it on OpenStep. Visit http://www.yrrid.com for details.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Hooks for WM start and WM quit? Message-ID: <jpanicoDHwAFt.1p8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:04:41 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com Hi, I'm looking for some hooks that will allow me to invoke arbitrary NeXT Apps or unix commands when the Workspace starts and quits. .login and .logout are no good, because .login is called *every* time a new shell instance is created. I only want notification once when I login from the NS login panel, and when I quit the Workspace. Any pointers into the literature appreciated. Thanks. -- Joe Panico NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer BLaCKSMITH Inc. jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: janhunen@interlog.com (Timo Janhunen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Differences? Date: 12 Nov 1995 00:38:36 -0500 Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414 Message-ID: <48418s$8as@gold.interlog.com> What is the difference between NS 3.2 user and NS 3.2 developer? Is there a compiler, etc etc included with the user version? Or is it not included... Part of my NS 3.2 got toasted, and I need the CD. Which should I buy? Regards, Timo Janhunen replies to: janhunen@interlog.com
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 12 Nov 1995 04:00:35 -0800 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <ewx969h5o.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <3EA4A43001A23A7C@-SMF-> To: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> writes: > To solve the problem it would be nice it > I could split up a file and download it > in parts. As I see it, there are 2 options. > An FTP client/server pair that can restart > a transfer in progress. >I don't know anything aboyt YFTP, but I have heard that the new version >of ncftp (precompiled 4-fat on orst by Carl Edman) can pick up a transfer >where you left off... it is also probably easy enough to have it run as a >cron script late at night also.... >However, the BEST solution (barring more nice people like Garance A >Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> who split things up for us) would be >for ditributions to be made that are split up already, at least into two >archs (ie send out a NeXT/Intel version and a HP/Sparc version). >I thought I remembered that there was somewhere you could get files sent >to you via email from FTP sites.... does anyone else remember this, or am >I just making it up from my own imagination and poor memory?? These are ftpmail servers and they can be configured to chunk the file and some support MIME multipart. -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multihoming a NeXT for serving WWW Pages Date: 12 Nov 1995 04:21:45 -0800 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <eraze9g6e.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <482l46$10r6@msunews.cl.msu.edu> To: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Doesn't NeXT's lookupd problem make this point rather moot? Q. What OS release is Stepwise using? -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Text Conversion Date: 12 Nov 1995 07:39:59 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> Howdy do! Quick question. I've got some DOS-based text files that I've filtered through SoftPC to put into a document I'm doing for work. Problem is that they're all in upper case, and I'd rather have them in mixed case. I dread having to re-type them, so I was wondering if there is any way that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... to 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... Any thoughts or pointers would be appreciated. Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RFD: SpliBuilder for FTP Date: 12 Nov 1995 14:59:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <48524t$1m0f@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3EA4A43001A23A7C@-SMF-> <ewx969h5o.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> In <ewx969h5o.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> Robert Nicholson wrote: > <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> writes: > > >I thought I remembered that there was somewhere you could get files sent > >to you via email from FTP sites.... does anyone else remember this, or am > >I just making it up from my own imagination and poor memory?? > > These are ftpmail servers and they can be configured to chunk the file > and some support MIME multipart. The problems with the mail solution are: 1) the whole file gets queued up (as multiple pieces) at your providers mail queue. Some providers (like mine) complain when you use too much mail queue space. 2) You have the same problem. If you retreieve your mail with (the most excellent) PopOver.app then you still have to wait for all pieces to come over. PopOver.app doesn't have a 'reget' capability. However, thanks to all who responded. For me, YFTP was the solution. Its 'reget' capability proved to be just what I needed. Regards, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: spagiola <spagiolaworldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 12 Nov 1995 21:29:51 GMT Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <485p0f$67t@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: >> Quick question. I've got some DOS-based text files that I've filtered >> through SoftPC to put into a document I'm doing for work. Problem is >> that they're all in upper case, and I'd rather have them in mixed case. >> I dread having to re-type them, so I was wondering if there is any way >> that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: >> >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... >> to >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... > >Fifteen years ago, this would have been a job for 'sed': just write >sufficiently hairy regular expressions, and keep improving the filter >until the output is within 1% of what you want. Then do the rest by >hand. Today, perl is a more robust solution along the same lines Or, for those not inclined to programming: A lot of word processors offer case switching. On NeXTSTEP, I know WP does (although it will switch _everything_, including initial letters). I know that Word (and perhaps more recent WP versions on other platforms) has more sophisticated case-switching that supports "Title Mode", as in your example. So just load them in there, do the switching, then re-export them. (eg I've done this under NeXTSTEP by loading the relevant text into Word running under Executor). -- Stefano Pagiola spagiola@worldbank.org Tel. 202-458-2997 Fax 202-477-0565 World Bank Environment Dept, 1818 H Str NW, Washington DC 20433 All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect World Bank Group opinions.
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hooks for WM start and WM quit? Date: 12 Nov 1995 18:15:27 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <485djv$hfg@paladin.american.edu> References: <jpanicoDHwAFt.1p8@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoDHwAFt.1p8@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: : :Hi, : :I'm looking for some hooks that will allow me to invoke arbitrary NeXT :Apps or unix commands when the Workspace starts and quits. .login and :.logout are no good, because .login is called *every* time a new shell :instance is created. I only want notification once when I login from the :NS login panel, and when I quit the Workspace. Any pointers into :the literature appreciated. Thanks. : :-- Have you tried the login and logout hooks in the Preferences panel? My guess is that you don't want to set these because you only want it to effect you and not everyone in your organization right? You could try it though with a check on the user and it if pops up and says its you then, do what you want it to. Or maybe your .login and .logout could check for the tty and if its the console then run your commands. -- Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com Subject: Re: Hooks for WM start and WM quit? Message-ID: <B6EFA53001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 12 Nov 95 12:59:00 EST I'm looking for some hooks that will allow me to invoke arbitrary NeXT Apps or unix commands when the Workspace starts and quits. .login and .logout are no good, because .login is called *every* time a new shell instance is created. I only want notification once when I login from the NS login panel, and when I quit the Workspace. Any pointers into the literature appreciated. Thanks. as root: dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook /path/to/logout/script dwrite loginwindow LoginHook /path/to/login/script I've got two programs for m68k called "LogoutHook" and LoginHook" but I'm not sure where they came from. I'm guessing/hoping that you might be able to do as I've suggested with dwrites and point them to any script (and that script could do anything you want). I've got my LogoutHook pointing to a script which empties my recycler and compacts my Active.mbox. see man page for loginwindow see SysAdmin bookshelf (search for loginhook) and /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/09_StartShut.rtf I hope this is what you were looking for/thinking about. OH! I almost forgot this: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/dock/Launch.1.3.s.tar.g z This is source-code for an application which does something similar (instead of using your .login and .logout it uses something like .Launch and .Logout). TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 12 Nov 1995 20:56:21 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> > Quick question. I've got some DOS-based text files that I've filtered > through SoftPC to put into a document I'm doing for work. Problem is > that they're all in upper case, and I'd rather have them in mixed case. > I dread having to re-type them, so I was wondering if there is any way > that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: > > 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... > > to > > 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... Fifteen years ago, this would have been a job for 'sed': just write sufficiently hairy regular expressions, and keep improving the filter until the output is within 1% of what you want. Then do the rest by hand. Today, perl is a more robust solution along the same lines (and learning it will be worth the effort expended, since it is the correct solution for almost all problems smaller than the ozone hole). There may be a graphical solution that will get you there, but I expect that by the time you are done defining the transformation you want, you will have done more work than it would cost you in perl. Emacs gurus can probably hit one obscure alt-meta-cokebottle command, and have Zippy the Pinhead do the conversion while they watch Eliza play Tower of Hanoi in another buffer. Yet, be he never so |========================================================= humble, there is no | Joshua W. Burton (708)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu police like Holmes. |=========================================================
From: Thor Legvold <edmtl@uib.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: dps bugs? (Re: Which to choose - 90 or 100MHz Pentium for NS machine?) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:20:07 +0100 (MET) Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.951112231055.26977B-100000-100000-100000@alf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: <m0tCyz0-000P9LC@sojourn1.sojourn.com> On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Ayrton wrote: > My Sony 17se running 1280x1024 seems to be pretty sharp 8-) Sounds nice! I also find 1280x1024 the best resolution at 17" (76Hz) > and yes, I've been to Norway.... 8-) ?!?!? Coincidence? So have I! (still here :-) > Gary Lalim <---- norweigen name from Valdres. We have a cabin in Valdres - nice place! > Founder of the NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Perhaps you can tell me if windowserver deaths due to display-errors (dps_error last message repeated 20 times...) are something one has to live with on Intel - it's getting to be annoying (about every other day, usually when I open any image file in any program, the workspace exits due to windowserver death caused by dps errors) Regards (norwegian name from Setesdal 8-), --- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 01:19:33 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4866f5$c6m@news.xmission.com> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> <485p0f$67t@minerva.worldbank.org> spagiola <spagiolaworldbank.org> wrote: > burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > > Dean D. Blakeley wrote: > >> [...] I was wondering if there is any way > >> that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: > >> > >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... > >> to > >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... > > > >Fifteen years ago, this would have been a job for 'sed': [...] > >Today, perl is a more robust solution along the same lines > > Or, for those not inclined to programming: A lot of word > processors offer case switching. On NeXTSTEP, I know WP does [...]. Another NEXTSTEP option is to use "MiscStringService" from the MiscKit. It is an example app that shows of how to build a services app and also how to use some MiscString methods for manipulating things like capitalizations. It will do the above named transformation ("Capitalize Words") as well as the following transformations: Invert Cases Reverse Squash Spaces To Lowercase To Uppercase Trim Lead Spaces Trim Tail Spaces Trim Spaces Note that as a service, it will work basically anywhere! If someone needs this app and doesn't have time to grab and build the whole MiscKit, I could make a binary of it available on the ftp archives, I suppose...but anyone who is a programmer anyway would do better to grab, build, and use the kit! :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: tapeworm@phoenix.net (Tapeworm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 04:19:38 GMT Organization: Phoenix Data Systems Message-ID: <486h0q$3fa@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton (burton@het.brown.edu) wrote: : Fifteen years ago, this would have been a job for 'sed': just write : sufficiently hairy regular expressions, and keep improving the filter : until the output is within 1% of what you want. Then do the rest by : hand. Today, perl is a more robust solution along the same lines : (and learning it will be worth the effort expended, since it is the : correct solution for almost all problems smaller than the ozone hole). : There may be a graphical solution that will get you there, but I : expect that by the time you are done defining the transformation you : want, you will have done more work than it would cost you in perl. : Emacs gurus can probably hit one obscure alt-meta-cokebottle command, : and have Zippy the Pinhead do the conversion while they watch Eliza : play Tower of Hanoi in another buffer. ROFL! That's hilarious... But seriously, I think you could also do it with the other confusing UNIX text editor, vi. Just set up a macro that first converts everything to lower case and then jumps from word to word capitalizing the first letter. I have no idea as to how to do this, but it IS possible... reassuring I know... Thank god for PICO! Tapeworm
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 13 Nov 1995 05:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <486k8u$9c6@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. 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From: nut@xedoc.com.au (Norton Truter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Absolute path names in IB Date: 13 Nov 1995 06:53:07 GMT Organization: Access One Pty Ltd., Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <486q0j$7ja@news.mel.aone.net.au> I am having some difficutly with InterfaceBuilder, especially 3.3, with regard to its use of absolute path names In IB3.0, in the defaults.nibd file, the AvailablePalettes and Palettes attributes contain absolute path names. In IB3.3, the nib contains a file data.dependencies which also contains absolute file names. In some cases, we have different (versions) of palettes which we need to use in a multi-developer project. Each of these palettes is configured into a particular location, isolating developers from each other. This was OK with IB3.0 because the NIBs were independant of the development environment. But now with IB3.3, the data.dependency file contains references to the palettes on which it depends, using absolute path names which means that if I develop a NIB and check it in to my repository, when I come to retrieving it, I have to reconstruct the universe EXACTLY AS IT WAS at the moment I finished developing it. Fuck. It even means that I can't pass a NIB to someone else to examine on another machine because the qualified name which may have originally been /Net/machine/Users/someone/... has been munged to /Users/someone/... or /private/Net/machine/... depending on where I happened to be at the time. Double fuck. I have tried using unqualified names in the defaults.nibd file in the Palettes and the AvailablePalettes attributes, but to no avail. I have not bothered to do the same thing with the data.dependency file, I don't hold much hope for it. OK what is this dumb bunny doing wrong? Am I missing something really important or obvious? Does anybody give a rats? Annoyed... >:-( -- NUT ============================================================================== Norton Truter, Senior Software Designer, Emerging Technology Pty. Ltd. e-mail: nut@xedoc.com.au | phone: (61) (3) 9214 0155 | fax: (61) (3) 9214 0151 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If a tree falls in the | "Shhh, it's only in my head" - The Counting Crows forest and no-one is +-------------------------------------------------- watching... can I turn it | "Infinite improbability rating of 1-to-1, into wood chips and sell | normality is restored" to the Japanese?" - me | - The Starship Heart of Gold (Douglas Adams) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I am vengence! I am the night! I AM BATMAN!" - The Batman (B:TAS) ==============================================================================
From: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <magnan-1311950059320001@10.0.2.15> Control: cancel <magnan-1311950059320001@10.0.2.15> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 01:01:17 -0500 Organization: University of Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <magnan-1311950101180001@10.0.2.15> cancel <magnan-1311950059320001@10.0.2.15>
From: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:58:00 -0500 Organization: University of Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <magnan-1311950058000001@10.0.2.15> References: <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net> In article <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net>, jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) wrote: > In <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Heinrich Giesen wrote: > > > > For my own purposes and just for fun I wrote a BibTeX > > frontend which you may use for managing BibTeX databases. > > Here is the readme file which gives you some impression > > about the application: > > ------------------ > > I downloaded this yesterday, and this is one of the studliest programs I've > seen. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. It's > worth learning LaTeX just to be able to use it! > > Peace, > > James > I totally agree. A great piece of software. Many thanks to the author. Francois Magnan -- Francois Magnan magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multihoming a NeXT for serving WWW Pages Date: 13 Nov 1995 07:22:30 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <486rnm$s8@news.next.com> References: <482l46$10r6@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <eraze9g6e.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.8d In article <eraze9g6e.fsf@steffi.accessone.com>, Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.accessone.com> wrote: >Doesn't NeXT's lookupd problem make this point rather moot? > >Q. What OS release is Stepwise using? The lookupd behavior doesn't pertain to this, but: The "lookupd problem" (DNS lookups are done in lookupd instead of libc) was fixed in the 3.3patch. In the 3.3patch DNS lookups are done in libc, fixing the blocking problem. --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan@next.com 415 780-2963 MIME, NeXTmail accepted
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: dps bugs? (Re: Which to choose - 90 or 100MHz Pentium for NS machine?) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 13 Nov 1995 08:08:21 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <486udl$kpa@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.951112231055.26977B-100000-100000-100000@alf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thor Legvold (edmtl@uib.no) wrote: [...] : Perhaps you can tell me if windowserver deaths due to : display-errors (dps_error last message repeated 20 times...) : are something one has to live with on Intel - it's getting : to be annoying (about every other day, usually when I open : any image file in any program, the workspace exits due to : windowserver death caused by dps errors) No. Absolutely not. A friend of mine has suffered long time from windowserver deaths (first of all, windowserver displays a SIGSEGV on console, then all the applications throw all their dps errors because there's no windowserver any more) until he decided to swap his mother- board. His machine has been very stable since then. I haven't had a windowserver crash on my Pentium 66 and the Pentium 120 at work since weeks. I would suggest disabling some motherboard features (like PCI burst, PCI write posting etc. if you are using PCI). Cheers, Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|// Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | / Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 24 764 (uni) \~/
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 07:37:25 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <487e65$6k0@papoose.quick.com> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote: >>(munch) >> I dread having to re-type them, so I was wondering if there is any way >> that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: >> >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... >> to >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... (Josh Burtons humorous post deleted) Try this. It is what I use. ------------------ CUT HERE ----------------- #!/usr/local/bin/perl while(<>) { while (/([A-Z])([A-Z]+)/) { ($first, $rest) = ($1, $2); $word = "$1$2"; $rest =~ tr/A-Z/a-z/; s/$word/$first$rest/; } print; } -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: spagiola <spagiolaworldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:57:31 GMT Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <487isb$6q4@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> <485p0f$67t@minerva.worldbank.org> <4866f5$c6m@news.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: don@misckit.com@internet don@misckit.com wrote: >> > Dean D. Blakeley wrote: >> >> [...] I was wondering if there is any way >> >> that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: >> >> >> >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... >> >> to >> >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... > >Another NEXTSTEP option is to use "MiscStringService" from the >MiscKit. It is an example app that shows of how to build a >services app and also how to use some MiscString methods for >manipulating things like capitalizations. It will do the >above named transformation ("Capitalize Words") as well as >the following transformations: > >Invert Cases >Reverse >Squash Spaces >To Lowercase >To Uppercase >Trim Lead Spaces >Trim Tail Spaces >Trim Spaces > >Note that as a service, it will work basically anywhere! > >If someone needs this app and doesn't have time to grab and >build the whole MiscKit, I could make a binary of it available >on the ftp archives, I suppose...but anyone who is a programmer >anyway would do better to grab, build, and use the kit! :-) I'd be grateful if you could do this, since I'm not a programmer and though I have a license to the dev stuff, it lost out in the inexorable pressure for disk space.... -- Stefano Pagiola spagiola@worldbank.org Tel. 202-458-2997 Fax 202-477-0565 World Bank Environment Dept, 1818 H Str NW, Washington DC 20433 All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect World Bank Group opinions.
From: Mickey Lasky <mickey@va.pubnix.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NeXT Keyboard Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 09:28:27 -0500 Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virgina) Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951113092707.3910A-100000@pub01.va.pubnix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to purchase a keyboard for a NeXT Slab (black). Any leads would be appreciated. Mine is getting ready to go. ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@va.pubnix.com ITA Communications mickey@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://www.ita.org/~dokk/ita.html "FOUL! I claim foul. I do agree with my claim." -- Artie, The Strongest Man in the World. Pete & Pete
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 15:53:58 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <487pmm$pn4@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <487isb$6q4@minerva.worldbank.org> In article <487isb$6q4@minerva.worldbank.org> spagiola <spagiolaworldbank.org> writes: > don@misckit.com wrote: > >> > Dean D. Blakeley wrote: > >> >> [...] I was wondering if there is any way > >> >> that one can toggle these to a mixed case format. This would go from: > >> >> > >> >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... > >> >> to > >> >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... > > Well, another option is to use the Edit.app user pipes: in your home-dir create a file .pipedict and place the following line in it: lower k tr A-Z a-z then save, quite edit and restart. if you want to convert chars from upper to lower, select them, then in the edit menue go to Utilities>User pipes>lower (or use command-k) and the conversion will take place. This only works in Edit, but it is quick to implement. Hope it helps, bye, Helmut
From: Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Just a test Date: 13 Nov 1995 15:45:15 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <487p6b$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> References: <487os5$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> Eine Antwort
From: Borek Lupomesky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need more help with pppd Date: 13 Nov 1995 09:05:29 GMT Organization: UAKOM Banska Bystrica Distribution: world Message-ID: <4871op$mf1@sun.uakom.sk> References: <480pnn$23c@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> In <480pnn$23c@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Espeyton wrote: > I keep getting the error > LCP Timeout sending config-Requests > Connection terminated This means, that pppd hasn't got any response from remote. Something is wrong. Bad chat script, PPP not running at the remote site or problems with modem/serial port are the most probable cases. > If it helps to know, I have a USRobotics 28.8 v.34 v.32bis I have this modem, too - and it works just fine. > I am also getting the error "Serial line is looped back" occasionally, any > ideas?? Don't know, what this means, but I recall getting this too. Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Borek Lupomesky (student, co-admin) University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hooks for WM start and WM quit? Date: 13 Nov 1995 16:58:54 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Message-ID: <487tge$2fh@emerald.oz.net> References: <jpanicoDHwAFt.1p8@netcom.com> <485djv$hfg@paladin.american.edu> tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) wrote: > In article <jpanicoDHwAFt.1p8@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) > writes: > :I'm looking for some hooks that will allow me to invoke arbitrary NeXT > :Apps or unix commands when the Workspace starts and quits. .login and > :.logout are no good, because .login is called *every* time a new shell > :instance is created. I only want notification once when I login from the > :NS login panel, and when I quit the Workspace. Any pointers into > :the literature appreciated. Thanks. > : > Have you tried the login and logout hooks in the Preferences panel? My guess > is that you don't want to set these because you only want it to effect you > and not everyone in your organization right? You could try it though with a > check on the user and it if pops up and says its you then, do what you want > it to. Or maybe your .login and .logout could check for the tty and if its > the console then run your commands. I use the following scripts (named /usr/local/bin/log{in,out}hook) to "personalize" log{in,out} hooks. Because these scripts run as root, security concerns should be considered. I *think* the /bin/su invocation of the individual ~/.log{in,out}hooks reduces the security risk considerably. Also, be aware that PATH is very minimal when these scripts are invoked, so the use of full paths to executables will minimize the risk of script failure. #! /bin/sh if [ "$1" = "root" ]; then dir= else dir=/Users/$1 fi if [ -x $dir/.loginhook ]; then /bin/su $1 -c "$dir/.loginhook" fi -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Just a test Date: 13 Nov 1995 15:39:49 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <487os5$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> testtest
From: Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD-R Sofware Date: 13 Nov 1995 15:42:47 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <487p1n$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> Does anybody know a Software to write CDs ? For NextStep 3.3 and SPARC SS20. Thanks
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:47:10 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4880au$5qh@news.xmission.com> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> <485p0f$67t@minerva.worldbank.org> <4866f5$c6m@news.xmission.com> <487isb$6q4@minerva.worldbank.org> spagiola <spagiolaworldbank.org> wrote: > don@misckit.com wrote: > >Another NEXTSTEP option is to use "MiscStringService" from the > >MiscKit. [...] > > > >If someone needs this app and doesn't have time to grab and > >build the whole MiscKit, I could make a binary of it available > >on the ftp archives, I suppose...but anyone who is a programmer > >anyway would do better to grab, build, and use the kit! :-) > I'd be grateful if you could do this, since I'm not a programmer > and though I have a license to the dev stuff, it lost out in the > inexorable pressure for disk space.... There's been enough interest to warrant putting this on the ftp site. Ask and ye shall receive: ftp://ftp.thoughtport.com/pub/next/misckit/MiscStringService.app.tar.gz It is built quad fat. Install by placing it in /LocalApps or ~/Apps and then rebuilding services (an easy way to do that is to log out and back in). MiscKit fans, there's a new version of the kit there, too. The formal announcement will go out soon... Enjoy! -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Big PC problems - can't log in, many crashes, help! *URGENT* Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:28:02 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <487rmi$bkq@alf.uib.no> Hi. I really need help to get my machine into some sort of useable condition - this is driving me crazy. Symptom: I cannot log in to my normal user account. Background: see below... In the 1 or 2 weeks I've had the new machine, the system has crashed on average once every 24 hours. I thought I had finally localized the problem to excessive dps errors, but this morning something new happenned. When I logged in, most of my docked autostart programs didn't start. They tried and failed (no message in console or in /private/adm/messages). Most programs would not work at all - they started to launch and then died without any warning. A few did work - Preferences, WorkspaceMangler and Edit. Terminal would not work. No commercial/3rd party apps worked. When I tried logging in as root everything worked (I'm here as root now). I tried rebooting, exiting the windowserver, etc etc, nothing helps. The only change I made in the system was to install Calliope.font in ~/Library/Fonts last night. I tried building the afmdir without affecting anything. I tried removing the font (the only 3rd party font on the machine) but no change. I checked all permissions, ownerships, etc in the entire system - no problems. I still can't start apps as myself, only as root. As root I su'ed to my own home account and fired up gdb to try a few apps. Opener and FrameMaker both gave similar errors: Opener: Memory Access exception on address 0x60155 (protection failure) 0x5095cdb in dbSwapInLeaf () FrameMaker: Memory Access exception on address 0x1e171d (invalid address) 0x5095cd2 in dbSwapInLeaf () Trying to start them from a terminal (su'd to my home account) gave a segmentation fault and a bus error, respectively. The worst is, after trying this I was _completely_ unable to log into my home account (i.e. my regular user account, not root). I get the background colour and then I get a new login screen. No error messages. I'm really getting upset at this constant failure and crashing of NSfIP - this PC has crashed/paniced/shown "weird" behaviour more times in two weeks than all the years I've used a NeXT computer. I wondered if it was hardware, but then the root account would also be flakey, no? I'm ready to return the entire machine and get something else (what, Dell? Sun? HP? DEC?) before it makes me crazy. All of you with PC's - is this _normal_ behaviour??? Here's my config, hard and software (I tried booting with default config, no change - still can't login): Intel Endeavor mainboard, Triton Chipset, PCI 2.2 controller, AMI BIOS, ISA/PCI bus (10MHz/60MHz), 256kb pipeline burst cache, 16MB RAM (2x8MB SIMM), on board floppy, 2x on board EIDE/ATA/ATAPI, on board parallell, Matrox MGA Millenium 2MB WRAM. Not sure where the serial controller is - probably on the mainboard, Quantum Fireball 1.0GB EIDE hardisk (512 block size, multiple (8) sector transfers enabled). Wait - /private/adm/messages reports PCI controller version 2.10, not 2.2 (that's what technical support reported they use...) I have (in Config.app) configured the folowing: Display: MatroxMGA2064W 1024x1280/75Hz, RGB:256/8 Mouse: Serial Mouse (v3.33) Network: none SCSI: none Sound: System Beep Driver (v3.30) Other Devices: Serial port 1&2 (v3.33); ISA/EISA Bus (v3.30); PCI Bus (v3.30); PS/2 Keyboard (v3.30) (actually its a Winlose keyb); TTY Port server (v3.33); On board Paralell port (v3.30) There are no config conflicts. I have enabled (in BIOS and in NeXTSTEP) power saving (sleep/suspend after 30 minutes inactivity) for both system and monitor. I have ppp2.2 as a loadable kernel driver to run ppp, otherwise there's nothing strange. I've installed MiscKit and "productivity" software I use daily (between crashes :-), not much else. I'm really wondering what this might be. I've installed the 3.3 patch1 package several days ago, but it didn't seem to affect the systems reliability or speed (I hear others find the system faster after patch?), it kept crashing. I have not (yet) run the post-install script (don't know which is appropriate - should I go into every executable on the machine to find what uses posix libs??? This is crazy. Do I need the new posix lib to replace the 3.2 version I have? probably not.) I have English, Swedish and French installed as language packages on the system. As far as I understand NeXTstep, the login program starts the windowserver and Workspace - all from one central copy - I don't understand why it works as root but not as myself - the permissions seem correct and this is something that just "happned" - the only thing I've done is surf a bit on the Web, download Calliope and install it in ~/Apps and the Calliope font in ~/Library/Fonts. I tried the app but it quit because I haven't installed Sonata.font yet. Could this be some sort of virus (I'm guessing wildly now...) Any/all suggesstion are more than welcomed - please e-mail me directly, I haven't time to wade through news. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: Joe Greenwald <jgreenwa@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (no subject) Date: 13 Nov 1995 18:52:53 GMT Organization: ODK Message-ID: <488465$ct0@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am consdering a position at NeXT. I would like any and all feedback - good, bad, and indifferent about NeXT's: 1. Technology 2. Quality of Support 3. Relationships with customers (how do customers see them) 4. What's it's like to work there In other words, you have the opportunity to influence someones decision about whether to make a *big* career jump...what would you tell them.. Thank you Joe ;-) PS Please excuse my x-posting.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com Subject: Re: Hooks for WM start and WM quit? Message-ID: <E093A73001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 13 Nov 95 13:54:00 EST Have you tried the login and logout hooks in the Preferences panel? Hhmmm.. I'm guessing this is another one of those post-3.2 additions? I don't have that module in my NS m68k 3.2 system. Is this just a NeXT later release or a publically available preference module? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: pompei@nwu.edu (Joe Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ** HELP: How to use a Laserwriter with NeXT? ** Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:02:05 -0600 Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <pompei-1311951502050001@galactic-overlord.acns.nwu.edu> Our network's NeXT printer just died on us, and we desperately need to hook up one of our laserwriters (IINT) to a Next machine (quickly)... it looks straightforward enough, as there's a serial port on the NeXT and one on the printer. What kind of cable do I use to connect them? 8-pin DIN to 25 pin I know, but what about pinouts? a regular Mac cable (I think for a modem) didn't work... help please! has anyone out there done this? thanks... joe pompei northwestern university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slayton@netcom.com (csh) Subject: Midwest PPP Provider? Message-ID: <slaytonDI01xs.8xz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:51:28 GMT Sender: slayton@netcom9.netcom.com Sorry to post this here, but I am desparate for a ppp internet provider. All I have found is Pipeline, which charges per minute over 20 hours per month. I want unlimited access at a fixed rate. Please mail response. Thanks! Stephen slayton@netcom.com -- Stephen slayton@netcom.com
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Turning off power to Mono Monitor Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:10:54 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <488c8u$c70@aludra.usc.edu> Could someone please email me with instructions or the location of a program that turns off the power to my Mono NeXT screen? At present, the screen when set to brightness level 0 still glows in a dark room. It is true that the display is black, but the monitor is still visibly on. I have seen other NeXT displays that can become totally black. Also, SunOS and Solaris machines running the program screenblank react the way that I'd like to get my machine to act. Please, if you can help me - email me at kowal@usc.edu Thanks Brian A. Kowal kowal@usc.edu -- Brian A. Kowal <><, Unix Technical Support (213) 740-9338 University Computing Services University of Southern California bkowal@usc.edu
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Big PC problems - can't log in, many crashes, help! *URGENT* Date: 13 Nov 1995 20:54:42 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <4887q2$k3q@alf.uib.no> References: <487rmi$bkq@alf.uib.no> The login problem I've solved - something corrupt in ~/.NeXT was enough to cause a lot of headache - why it didn't allow login with missing or standard values is beyond me. As for being buggy, several have indicated that this is often hardware glitches and that NSfIP is very stable, given that the latform its run on is also stable. I'd still appreciate advice to keep crashes to a minimum, and am considering having a new mainboard installed while it's still under garantee (at the least I'll get PCI 2.2 controller instead of 2.1...) Tips/hints/ideas as always are welcome via e-mail. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 13 Nov 1995 21:23:15 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <488d03$6ha@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <484puv$p3a@news.duke.edu> <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu> <487e65$6k0@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick (jq@phcs.phcs.com) wrote: : In article <485n1l$h68@news.acns.nwu.edu>, : Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote: : >> This would go from: : >> : >> 280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... : >> to : >> 280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... : Try this. It is what I use. : ------------------ CUT HERE ----------------- : #!/usr/local/bin/perl : while(<>) { : while (/([A-Z])([A-Z]+)/) { : ($first, $rest) = ($1, $2); : $word = "$1$2"; : $rest =~ tr/A-Z/a-z/; : s/$word/$first$rest/; : } : print; : } If we are in perl mode how about this one-liner (you could put it on a command line with -e option). #!/usr/local/bin/perl -pi.bak s/(\w)(\w+)/($t = $2) =~ tr#A-Z#a-z#, $1 . $t/ge; If you use emacs then mark a region to convert and execute 'capitalize-region' (there is also 'downcase-region', 'upcase-region' and similar commands operating on words). Michal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tbm@gnustep.org (Martin Michlmayr) Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Message-ID: <DHzuJv.II@gnustep.org> Organization: GNUStep, Austria References: <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net> <487fol$ihd@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 18:11:54 GMT Jon Haveman (jon@mgmt.purdue.edu) wrote: / This sounds totally cool! I missed the original post. Would somebody / please repost the location? ----- Begin Included Message ----- The current version of Bibliography is in ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen/ as Bibliography<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz The size is 0.249 Mb. The sources are a still bit dirty. I will make it public occasionally. ----- End Included Message ----- Martin Michlmayr tbm@gnustep.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: 3.3_Moto_Boot_Floppy_Images.floppyimage Message-ID: <6684A73001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 13 Nov 95 17:46:00 EST What is this file? It is NeXTAnswer 2071, but when I downloaded it, all I get is a very strange edit file. confused.. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> Email: ASCII preferrred / NeXTMail for necessary attachments / NO MIME! YOUR 'REPLY-TO' LINE WILL BE REMOVED BY MY STUPID Microsoft MAILREADER!! PLEASE TELL ME IF YOUR "FROM" ADDRESS IS NOT YOUR PREFERRED EMAIL ADDRESS.
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help with NCR825 scsi Date: 14 Nov 1995 01:49:09 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <488sil$n2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I recently upgraded my motherboard (to a Tyan Titan III) and I lost the onboard NCR810 scsi that was on my Asus MB. I bought a generic NCR825 card (with a Tyan part #s-1365) under the assumption that the Symbios driver would work with it. Unfortunately, it didn't The card seems to work fine, and I was able to get it working under Win95, but during the boot process, it would recognize the disks, but hang when it tried to get information off them. It turns out it was waiting for the drive to come ready (it eventually prints that). But the drive never did and I got a kernel panic since NS couldn't mount the root drive. I've borrowed a friends Adaptec2940 so I have a working system temporarily, but I would really like to get the NCR card working. I tried the Symbios driver (3.00) and the NeXT version (3.33) with no luck. There is a demo driver on the net (NCR_SCSIDemoDriver.tar.Z) that does work, but only for one drive and I haven't been able to figure out where to buy a full copy (there's no info in the .readme). If anyone knows how to get a working driver, either changeing something in the NeXT driver or where to purchase the Demo driver, please help!!! Thanks, David -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Indexing Kit Query Language Woes! Date: 14 Nov 1995 03:15:46 GMT Organization: CERFnet Message-ID: <4891l2$2of@news.cerf.net> Keywords: IXAttributeQuery Hello Folks! I am attempting to query a IXRecordManager using IXAttributeQuery. From the documentation that I have, it seems that IXAttributeQuery will accept queries in the form of (const char *)'s that are valid Indexing Kit Query Language statements. My application manages to generate this query: and(eq(word "louse")) from the Indexing Kit Query Language specification, it seems to be a valid statement. gdb manages to indicate that the query is null-terminated: (gdb) display queryString 2: queryString = {"and(eq(word \"louse\"))", '\000' <repeats 7882 times>"} BUT, my code... if ( (query = [[IXAttributeQuery alloc] initQueryString: (const char *)queryString andAttributeParser:nil]) == nil ) { fprintf(stderr,"Error accepting queryString\n"); exit(-1); } exits due to a returned nil. This seemingly indicates that IXAttributeQuery has found a syntactical flaw in my expression. Is there some syntactical arcana that I am missing? Thanks for any help! Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.bugs From: s2404675@techst02.technion.ac.il (Shkolnik Uri ) Subject: HELP Please Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:16:36 GMT Message-ID: <DI0xnp.4At@discus.technion.ac.il> Sender: news@wang.com Hello, I'am a computers administrator in a small Israeli company. We have 2 NexTStep which I had never touch before (the other parts of our system are sun's & PC's). Two days ago I tryed to change some E-mail configuration in one of the NexTStep, but its system crashed !!! I found only one User Guide book and I know nobody in Israel that know anything about this operation system. May you help me with: 1) Advice about good NexTStep administration book(s). 2) Internet NexTStep information sites. 3) Help me by E-mail for a while (I have poor English as you see but I'll do my best..). Thanks -- ****************************************************************** * Uri Shkolnik * * ============ * * Harmonic Lightwaves (Israel) * * Phone: 972 4 550180 / Fax ~181 * * E-Mail: root@harmonic.co.il * * [or]: uri@harmonic.co.il [or]: s2404675@t2.technion.ac.il * ****************************************************************** Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Summary: Keywords: -- ****************************************************************** * Uri Shkolnik * * ============ * * Harmonic Lightwaves (Israel) * * Phone: 972 4 550180 / Fax ~181 * * E-Mail: root@harmonic.co.il * * [or]: uri@harmonic.co.il [or]: s2404675@t2.technion.ac.il * ******************************************************************
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Whereis FaxRight by Alex Caro and Dirk Fromhein Date: 14 Nov 1995 08:35:20 GMT Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand. Message-ID: <489kc8$5d6@senior.nectec.or.th> I have an early version of FaxRight and I'm hoping to get a more recent version -- does anyone know where I can find it or how to contact Alex Caro or Dirk Fromhein? Thanks in advance!
From: vision@halcyon.com (Andy Kriger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dialup PPP Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:03:30 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <489lvh$1qv@news.halcyon.com> just looking for some confirmation of the NeXTAnswers (which i may have been misreading)... is there a built-in TCP/IP stack in NeXTStep (Intel) (as with Win95) that will allow for dialup PPP? or, is a 3rd party package required? furthermore, can anyone advise on how to get NeXTStep to recognize my modem (USR 28.8 Internal)? i'm just getting going with NS so a lot is still unfamiliar. thx
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: martin@rat.se Subject: Re: Indexing Kit Query Language Woes! Message-ID: <DI108I.E8J@rat.se> Keywords: Indexing Kit Query Language Sender: martin@rat.se (Martin Wennerberg) Organization: Research & Trade, AB. References: <4891l2$2of@news.cerf.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:12:11 GMT In article <4891l2$2of@news.cerf.net> penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) writes: > I am attempting to query a IXRecordManager using IXAttributeQuery. - I suggest not using the upper layers of the indexing kit. They are very buggy and large parts are not implemented and probably never will be. Martin Wennerberg ____________________________________________________ Research & Trade AB Phone: + 46 - 8 - 21 17 50 Fax: + 46 - 8 - 24 54 11 Email: martin@rat.se [MIME & NeXTmail supported] Snailmail: Box 7742, S-103 95 Stockholm, SWEDEN Visiting: Kungsgatan 33
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3_Moto_Boot_Floppy_Images.floppyimage Date: 14 Nov 1995 07:43:12 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <48a2t0$903@papoose.quick.com> References: <6684A73001A23A7C@-smf-> In article <6684A73001A23A7C@-smf->, LUOMA,TIMOTHY <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote: > >What is this file? It is NeXTAnswer 2071, but when I downloaded it, all >I get is a very strange edit file. > This is a raw image of a floppy disk. Here's how to make a floppy from it under NS: 1. Save the file to disk - Be positive that you did not accidentally modify the file in edit.. 2. su to root in a shell window. 3. From the root shell prompt enter the command dd if=THE_FILE_NAME_YOU_SAVED_TO of=/dev/rfd0b bs=1440k (Note that specifying block size 'bs=1440k' is not really needed but it does significantly reduce the time required) 4. When you are prompted to insert a disk, put in the floppy you want to build. 5. After dd returns eject the disk with disk -e /dev/rfd0a -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: neuss@sun10 (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD-R Sofware Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:19:02 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Systemarchitektur, TH Darmstadt, Germany Message-ID: <48ac16$1hs6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <487p1n$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at wrote: : Does anybody know a Software to write CDs ? : For NextStep 3.3 and SPARC SS20. The mkisofs software (available as source for LINUX) can be ported and works. Sorry, I don't know where to obtain it, I got it via mail from a friend. Check out archie to find a pointer. It takes a directory tree as input and creates an ISO 9660 compliant raw image file. Of course, this does not have a flashy graphical frontend. It also does not take you all the way, since you must still find a way of burning the raw image created with mkisofs onto the CD. Then again, it might be as simple as writing the raw image directly to the symbolic device. However, I seem to remember some talk about a commercial GUI tool under NEXTSTEP (darn, hope this is the last time they changed the capitalization, I still type it wrong now and then..) Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: lappe@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Dr. Markus Lappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Grayscale printing on HP Laserjet 4 M Plus Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:52:37 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <48ae05$e93@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Dear Netters, I'm having problems printing grayscale graphics on a HP Laserjet 4M+. Light gray parts will come out white. Dark grays are fine. This happens with graphics from Diagram! or Mathematica. Self-made postscript files using the setgray command work, so I suspect it has something to do with nxsetgray. Any help would be appreciated. Markus Lappe -- --- Dr. Markus Lappe Allg. Zoologie und Neurobiologie Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum D-44780 Bochum Germany lappe@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: "John W. Wooten" <woo@ornl.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel Next down..how to fix? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 11:09:44 -0500 Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951114110546.2638A-100000@woonext.cmo.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an Intel NeXT that I tried a different screen setting on. It was working okay at 780x640, but under configuration had several other options. Since I have a very good monitor, I decided to try one of the higher resolution ones offered. I set it to 1120x1024 (I think) 60Hz and then rebooted. Now I have a blank screen. I can't log in, out or even reboot without having to resync the drives (timely). I tried coming up with config=Default, but I guess this is now the default. How do I change back to something usable? I can get in as single user, but don't know what to edit or change to get different screen resolution. Thanks, - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: help: trouble in compiling ncsa httpd 1.5 Date: 14 Nov 1995 19:12:49 GMT Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Nov14121249@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> In compiling the new version of NCSA httpd, I run into error messages: # make next cd src ; make next ; cd ../cgi-src ; make next; cd ../support ; make next make tar AUX_CFLAGS=-DNeXT CC=cc CFLAGS=-02 DBM_LIBS=-ldbm cc -c -02 -DNeXT -DDIGEST_AUTH -DDBM_SUPPORT httpd.c cc: unrecognized option `-02' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/ip.h:127: undefined type, found `n_long' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/ip.h:130: undefined type, found `n_long' *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. I looked around in whole /usr/include directory and couldn't find where 'n_long' should be defined. Is this a famous 'bug' or invention in nextstep 3.3? Anyway, I put 'typedef long n_long;' in the ip.h, it works, though, I don;t if I did right thing. Well, it is obvious that the NCSA httpd team didn't do their home work on a nextstep system. Otherwise, how come 'cc' has a '-02' option instead of '-O2'. Thanks, zhao
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Date: 14 Nov 1995 19:15:41 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <48apst$8s8@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net> <magnan-1311950058000001@10.0.2.15> Sorry that I missed the announcement, could someone tell me where to get this great new app ? Thanks, Antoine Gautier
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Librarian and .gz files -- how? Date: 14 Nov 1995 21:32:06 +0100 Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Sender: jacob@jnext Message-ID: <x7envbym2h.fsf@jnext> I recently looked at the collection of comp.sys.next archives on the Peanuts CD and much to my surprice, the indexed articles are gzip'ed and Librarian can still find information in them. How is this done? I imagine one could fool Librarian by: 1. Putting a .gz suffix on all files 2. Build the index 3. Actually gzip the files but if there's a smarter way, I'd like to know :-) Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen jacob@dannug.dk NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob
From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Assign icon to file extension? Date: 15 Nov 1995 00:44:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <48bd53$r0o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <48b9nk$bn6@wisdom2.Stanford.EDU> Use Unknown.app. It's on the archives. -- Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ppp -> system panic Date: 14 Nov 1995 18:31:17 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <48an9l$9v@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Hi, I want to set up a ppp connection to my university. Therefor I wrote a scirpt which works fine and the connection is build up proberly. After an indefinite period (sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes after 2 hours) I get a system panic. Strange about this is that I can connect to my normal internet provider via ppp without any problems. I tried to deactivate the compress option, but it didn't work. I even got the latest searial port drivers, but it didn't work. Any idea where the system panic could come from? -- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Assign icon to file extension? Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:45:56 -0800 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Sender: guitar@leland.stanford.edu Message-ID: <48b9nk$bn6@wisdom2.Stanford.EDU> Summary: How to assign icons to file extension? Does anyone know how to assign an icon tiff to a given file extension? I would like to make, for example, files ending in ".raw" display an icon other than the standard text file icon, thus making them easier to pick out visually. Thanks for any info. Evan Schofer guitar@leland.stanford.edu -- Evan Schofer Department of Sociology guitar@leland.stanford.edu (NextMail OK) Stanford University Office: Bldg 120, Rm 131 (415) 723-0158 Stanford CA, 94306 WWW: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~guitar/
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Images in OmniWeb Date: 15 Nov 1995 04:39:09 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <48bqtd$4q2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Is there any way to control which application or service renders images for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and dread -o OmniWeb didn't spit out anything helpful. Many thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: "David N. Richards" <richards@igor> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ZSH for NeXT Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:13:38 -0500 Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951114201223.1083A-100000@igor> References: <469brt$8bg@news1.ucsd.edu> <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> Does anyone know where I can find zsh binaries for an m68K NeXTStep 3.2 machine?? Thanks in advance!! Dave *********************************** David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College Voice: (718) 997-3874 ***********************************
From: mickwu@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Mickwu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD-R Sofware Date: 15 Nov 1995 01:08:39 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <48camn$k8l@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> References: <487p1n$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> You may go visit www.gscorp.com for their free previwe eXTRACD working demo. Or call 415-945 7008, Or E-mail to info@gscorp.com Th.H@bwl.univie.ac.at wrote: : Does anybody know a Software to write CDs ? : For NextStep 3.3 and SPARC SS20. : Thanks
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IXPostingSet formIntersectionWithPostingsIn: Help! Date: 15 Nov 1995 00:29:18 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <48bc8u$1gk@news2.ucsd.edu> Keywords: indexing kit, handles Hullo! I have some question regarding the NeXTstep Indexing Kit, particularly the IXPostingExchange protocol compliant classes. First of all, the NeXTstep documentation is very vague regarding handles and postings. I am trying to create a posting set with through cursoring a searchKey into a IXRecordManager. After obtaining this set, I'd like to be able to create a new set that has all of these postings in it, but indexed by a different attribute (which is present in each of these objects). I am trying to do some like this: /* allocate posting set */ wordset = [[IXPostingSet alloc] init]; /* allocate and localize cursor on word attribute */ cursor = [[control recMan] cursorForAttributeNamed:WRASTRWORD]; /* enter key and length into cursor object */ [cursor setKey:(void *)searchKey andLength:STRINGLEN(searchKey)]; /* put all matching postings (by handle) in posting set */ [wordset formUnionWithPostingsIn:cursor]; /* allocate posting list for access to complete stored objects */ postingList = [[IXPostingList alloc] initWithSource:[control recMan] andPostingsIn:wordset]; /* free current cursor */ [cursor free]; /* free current posting set */ [wordset free]; /* allocate and localize cursor on aLink attribute */ cursor = [[control recMan] cursorForAttributeNamed:WRAINTLINK]; /* allocate posting set for aLink searches */ linkset = [[IXPostingSet alloc] init]; /* put all aLink attribute handles into posting set */ [linkset formUnionWithPostingsIn:cursor]; /* intersect these postings with keySearch posting list */ [linkset formIntersectionWithPostingsIn:postingList]; I am not sure that this code is working in the way that I had intended it. I have another question regarding the IXPostingSet formIntersectionWithPostingsIn: method. This method seems to be very powerful, but it is perhaps not as general a tool as I would like. I would like to take two IXPostingSets that each have WRAINTLINK attribute handles in them, and I would like to remove all WRAINTLINK *values* that are not present in both sets. I thought that formIntersectionWithPostingsIn: would work initially, but it doesn't seem to operate on values but strictly on handles. Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/after.html
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images in OmniWeb Date: 15 Nov 1995 09:40:04 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <48cchk$1m6@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <48bqtd$4q2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote: > Is there any way to control which application or service renders images > for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and What about Command-3 from the Workspace to see whether the settings for image files coincide? If they did, you could easily change them from Wm.app. ys Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
From: rlove@raptor.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Date: 15 Nov 1995 05:09:40 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800 Message-ID: <48bsmk$8b2@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <47nc3c$4l0@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <48309l$mqp@mozart.jlc.net> <magnan-1311950058000001@10.0.2.15> <48apst$8s8@athena.ulaval.ca> In <48apst$8s8@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier wrote: > Sorry that I missed the announcement, could someone tell me where > to get this great new app ? Let me quote a portion of the original posting: The current version of Bibliography is in ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen/ as Bibliography<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz For LaTeX users this is a little gem! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images in OmniWeb Date: 15 Nov 1995 14:31:10 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <48ctje$fue@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <48bqtd$4q2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote: > Is there any way to control which application or service renders images > for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and > > dread -o OmniWeb > Thats no OmniWeb problem. Use Command+3 in Workspace on a picture to choose Your favourite App to render. - Karsten --- Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BibTeX - frontend available Date: 15 Nov 1995 04:48:34 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <48brf2$4uq@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <48apst$8s8@athena.ulaval.ca> In article <48apst$8s8@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > Sorry that I missed the announcement, could someone tell me where > to get this great new app ? > > Thanks, > > Antoine Gautier ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen/ Bibliography<version>.NIHS.b.tar.gz It really is a superb piece of work. Many thanks to Dr. Giesen for the generous contribution he's made to the NEXTSTEP community. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Where to find an assembler for the M56k? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DI1wq4.nn9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:54:03 GMT Distribution: na References: <47roi9$1pc@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <47roi9$1pc@agate.berkeley.edu>, Paul Robert Brown <pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu> wrote: > >I had a brainstorm today and wrote out an assembly language program that >will do computations related to my thesis. I'd like to compile it for the >M56k chip in my slab and leave it humming along in the background. (It's >randomly wandering through, say, 300! possibilities...) I only need about >4Kb of RAM, so that's not a problem. > >For some unknown reason, the DSP subdirectories in my developer package >are empty, so I'm at a little bit of a loss. > >Thanks for any help. (Like directions to a copy of ASM56k!) > Grab the MusicKit from ftp.ccrma.stanford.edu (or similar). It has everything you need. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: penrose@ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Indexing Kit Concepts Help needed Date: 15 Nov 1995 00:29:12 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <48bc8o$1gj@news2.ucsd.edu> Keywords: handles, postings Hullo! I have some question regarding the NeXTstep Indexing Kit, particularly the IXPostingExchange protocol compliant classes. First of all, the NeXTstep documentation is very vague regarding handles and postings. I am trying to create a posting set with through cursoring a searchKey into a IXRecordManager. After obtaining this set, I'd like to be able to create a new set that has all of these postings in it, but indexed by a different attribute (which is present in each of these objects). I am trying to do some like this: /* allocate posting set */ wordset = [[IXPostingSet alloc] init]; /* allocate and localize cursor on word attribute */ cursor = [[control recMan] cursorForAttributeNamed:WRASTRWORD]; /* enter key and length into cursor object */ [cursor setKey:(void *)searchKey andLength:STRINGLEN(searchKey)]; /* put all matching postings (by handle) in posting set */ [wordset formUnionWithPostingsIn:cursor]; /* allocate posting list for access to complete stored objects */ postingList = [[IXPostingList alloc] initWithSource:[control recMan] andPostingsIn:wordset]; /* free current cursor */ [cursor free]; /* free current posting set */ [wordset free]; /* allocate and localize cursor on aLink attribute */ cursor = [[control recMan] cursorForAttributeNamed:WRAINTLINK]; /* allocate posting set for aLink searches */ linkset = [[IXPostingSet alloc] init]; /* put all aLink attribute handles into posting set */ [linkset formUnionWithPostingsIn:cursor]; /* intersect these postings with keySearch posting list */ [linkset formIntersectionWithPostingsIn:postingList]; I am not sure that this code is working in the way that I had intended it. I have another question regarding the IXPostingSet formIntersectionWithPostingsIn: method. This method seems to be very powerful, but it is perhaps not as general a tool as I would like. I would like to take two IXPostingSets that each have WRAINTLINK attribute handles in them, and I would like to remove all WRAINTLINK *values* that are not present in both sets. I thought that formIntersectionWithPostingsIn: would work initially, but it doesn't seem to operate on values but strictly on handles. Christopher Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/after.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help: trouble in compiling ncsa httpd 1.5 Date: 15 Nov 1995 21:21:46 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <48dlla$755@digifix.digifix.com> References: <ZHAO.95Nov14121249@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) wrote: > In compiling the new version of NCSA httpd, I run into error > messages: Sounds like this is under 3.3.... I've been told that there is some includes oddness when compiling under 3.3.. Under 3.2, I edited the Makefile by hand in the src directory and did a build all in that directory.. worked fine. There is a SMALL non-feature... strftime under NEXTSTEP doesn't understand %T, so you need to search for %T in the source and replace it with %H:%M:%S There are two, perhaps three occurances... Even that is optional...
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD-R Sofware Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:41:00 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1995Nov15.084100.4770@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <48ac16$1hs6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In article <48ac16$1hs6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@sun10 (Christian Neuss) writes: > However, I seem to remember some talk about a commercial GUI > tool under NEXTSTEP (darn, hope this is the last time they > changed the capitalization, I still type it wrong now and > then..) eXTRACD from GS Corp does this, with a NeXT GUI. A demo copy was on their last CD. Demo mode lets you master small CDs (less than about 20Mb, I think). Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
From: john@ablecom.net (John Stytz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dialup PPP Date: 16 Nov 1995 07:44:19 GMT Organization: Able Technical Services Message-ID: <48eq4j$ppk@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> On 11/13/95, Andy Kriger wrote: >just looking for some confirmation of the NeXTAnswers (which i may >have been misreading)... > >is there a built-in TCP/IP stack in NeXTStep (Intel) (as with Win95) >that will allow for dialup PPP? or, is a 3rd party package required? > >furthermore, can anyone advise on how to get NeXTStep to recognize my >modem (USR 28.8 Internal)? i'm just getting going with NS so a lot is >still unfamiliar. > >thx > Hi Andy, NS does include a full TCP/IP stack as part of the OS, however, PPP is not part of TCP/IP, just a transport mechanism for it. There is an excellent public domain version of PPP available at ftp://ftp.thoughtport.com/pub/next/ppp/. You can also find more info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP. Good luck... -- John Stytz johns@ablecom.net, NeXTmail welcome
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unkillable Processes Date: 15 Nov 1995 23:43:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <48dtuo$1cfo@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Earlier somebody posted a program that would attempt to kill those nasty "unkillable" processes. My attempt to archive that message was unsuccessful. Could somebody email/repost that program? TIA, Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: rock@pangea.com (Roger Rosner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: uncompresshelp that works? Date: 15 Nov 1995 19:16:31 GMT Organization: Pangea Corporation Message-ID: <48deaf$l24@grant.pangea.com> Has anyone got a copy of Scott Hess's uncompresshelp.m that works with 3.3 apps? If so I'd really appreciate a copy. Thanks. Roger Rosner rock@pangea.com
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DL Not starting properly Date: 16 Nov 1995 03:24:31 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <48eatf$iag@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Howdy all, After searching NeXTAnswers, I'm still at a loss as to the solution to a rather annoying problem. Many times when I go to fire up Digital Librarian, the icon turns white and then goes back to the "unstarted" state. I finally removed my personal bookshelf and things started working again. After building up my bookshelf, I started reindexing some folders. All the sudden the same thing happened again. I can not even double click on the /NextLibrary/Bookshelves/NextDeveloper.bshlf. That bookshelf should definitly not be corrupted. I feel that it has something to do with the indexing (or maybe removing the index) of these folders however, I don't know for sure. Anybody know what I'm missing or how to correct the problem? - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: matthias@arkon.amg.de.amg.de (Matthias Schuerhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SoftRAM Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:08:12 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <48ev1s$6rb@hagen.amg.de> References: <Spike-1011952341570001@pma165.loop.com> >SOFTRAM95 DOUBLES RAM stuff deleted.. See also the article in the German computer magazine ct from december 1995;-) Matthias
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images in OmniWeb Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:40:30 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <48ff0e$1sr@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <48cchk$1m6@news.tuwien.ac.at> In article <48cchk$1m6@news.tuwien.ac.at> wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) writes: > jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote: > > Is there any way to control which application or service renders images > > for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and > > What about Command-3 from the Workspace to see whether the settings for image > files coincide? If they did, you could easily change them from Wm.app. Unfortunately this won't help. There are (to my knowledge) no elegant means to control which filter service should be used if more then one program offers a given service. This is disturbing in the case of OmniWeb and transparent GIF files if you have ImageViewer _and_ OmniImageFilter installed. ImageViewer doesn't handle transparent GIF files correctly, so it's desirable to have OmniImageFilter do the job. The only way I found up to now was to edit the file "services" inside ImageViewer.app and comment out (with "#") the lines ending with "gif" and "GIF" (and - while you are at it - "bmp"). You might have to login again then to make this setting active. Of course this only is useful if you have another program providing these services installed, as is the case for OmniImageFilter. Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: Carl Evans <cevans@vnet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help configure a Hayes with NeXTStep 3.0 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:31:55 -0500 Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - info@char.vnet.net Message-ID: <30AC022B.1CD@vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a friend who is attempting to configure a Hayes Acura V.34 modem on a NeXTStation black box and he gets the error message "Not synchronizing with Hayes modem". He purchased a NeXT 68040 Modem cable so he think's he has the correct cable. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: help: trouble in compiling ncsa httpd 1.5 Date: 16 Nov 1995 19:59:47 -0800 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <eraz7ao24.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <ZHAO.95Nov14121249@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> To: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) <zhao@crl.nmsu.edu> writes: >In compiling the new version of NCSA httpd, I run into error >messages: ># make next >cd src ; make next ; cd ../cgi-src ; make next; cd ../support ; make >next >make tar AUX_CFLAGS=-DNeXT CC=cc CFLAGS=-02 DBM_LIBS=-ldbm >cc -c -02 -DNeXT -DDIGEST_AUTH -DDBM_SUPPORT httpd.c >cc: unrecognized option `-02' >/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/ip.h:127: undefined type, found >`n_long' >/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/ip.h:130: undefined type, found >`n_long' >*** Exit 1 >Stop. >*** Exit 1 >Stop. >*** Exit 1 >Stop. >I looked around in whole /usr/include directory and couldn't find >where 'n_long' should be defined. Is this a famous 'bug' or invention >in nextstep 3.3? Anyway, I put 'typedef long n_long;' in the ip.h, it >works, though, I don;t if I did right thing. Well, it is obvious that >the NCSA httpd team didn't do their home work on a nextstep >system. Otherwise, how come 'cc' has a '-02' option instead of '-O2'. >Thanks, >zhao Cool somebody else got the same problem I did. and my fix is posted to the sysadmin group last week. the -02 was a blatant typo. All you need to do is find where n_long is defined and include it's header file. As Ithini you've done already. See Scott Anguish's comment re %T -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: adesuasi@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (Alexander V. Desuasido (Alvin Desuasido)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Make Money with the Internet ! ! ! Date: 17 Nov 1995 04:58:44 GMT Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <48h4q4$hth@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: adesuasi Internet Money-maker PowerNet Is Here ! ! ! Please read the entire Message, and then request the Free Software. It's easy to GET, and could make you a lot of $$MONEY$$. Why wait till it's too late? *** PowerNet™ i THE new on-line service that will out do all others. It ha everything the big 3 have (CompuServe, America Online, & Prodigy) and more, but with one big difference. It allows you to share in it's growth and success. Don't you wish that all the times you spoke to your friends and colleagues about one of the big 3, (and latter found out that they had joined because of you), that you could have been paid? Or think how much larger the big 3 would be today if it paid it's members who shared their excitement with others. We are after all, their best advertisers. Well its all going to change ... Now with PowerNet's marketing plan, via the On-line Customizable Demo Disk, you can have the best of both worlds. The Demo Disk does all the selling itself. It brilliant! All you have to do is give the disk to anyone who is interested in on-line services or computers. And since every time you turn around our national TV, Radio & Print Media is reporting on another story about "Surfing the Net" or "Going on-line", more and more American's are looking for a way to experience the World Wide Internet. This is like a FREE advertising Blitz, giving on-line services results that are unbelievable. This in combination with your personalized Demo Disk, (the software is very professional) has made recruiting easy and fun. Finally there's a way to not only enjoy your online time, but to profit by it as well. There are 5 different ways to make money here, but lets talk about only the first (the other four will be explained fully when you receive your Free Demo Disk). The "Fast Start Bonus" will pay you $20.00 for each referral, and will pay this to you Daily! No waiting! This is brand new, and most importantly you'll have the advantage of getting in early. Don't wait another day, because this new on-line service is growing like crazy !! More good news... The actual FREE ON-LINE DEMO DISK (ver. 2.0) is now available ! I have it ! And so can YOU ! Most others are only promising they'll get you a demo disk, but it's not the current "ON-LINE DISK". This new disk will allow you to log right on, and most importantly, it will allow you to personalize the disk and make copies so you can share it with your fellow computer users NOW, while taking your piece of the success and money with this outstanding on-line service. Why would you wait? So how do you get your FREE ON-LINE DEMO DISK (ver. 2.0)? Easy. Just e-mail your complete 1) name, & 2) mailing address, and I'll see to it that you get your Free Demo Disk and Bonus Software before most others even hear about this new on-line service (press "CONTROL M"). But hurry, because were growing fast. I'll send it First Class Mail - Same Day - TODAY! adesuasi@trumpet.calpoly.edu I'll see you at the bank. =)
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP 805C ppd? GhostScript PPD?? Date: 17 Nov 1995 16:36:17 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <48idm1$95g@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, I would like to use an HP 805C color printer from my NeXT. The HP is remotely connected to another machine in the net and there is a filter active which uses ghostscript to produce the actual 850C binary code out of postscript sent to that node. All the PS sending works fine, however, I don't know which PPD (Printer Description File) I should use! If I use "Unknown) in the ty filed of NetInfo>Printers>myprinter then the output is black&white. If I use a ppd for some other color printer (HP_DeskJet_1200C%PS.ppd) then the colors are wrong! My question is: 1) Is there a ppd for the HP805C somewhere? 2) Which PPD do I have to use to get "normal, device independent" PS as output? (In color!) Thanks a lot for your help!! Helmut
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: uncompresshelp that works? Date: 17 Nov 1995 15:51:20 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <48ib1o$2qq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <48deaf$l24@grant.pangea.com> In article <48deaf$l24@grant.pangea.com> rock@pangea.com (Roger Rosner) writes: > Has anyone got a copy of Scott Hess's uncompresshelp.m that works with > 3.3 apps? If so I'd really appreciate a copy. Thanks. > > Roger Rosner > rock@pangea.com There's a recent version, at least on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: ken@mutt.com (Ken Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HELP Please Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 10:01:24 -0500 Organization: Information Management Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <ken-1711951001250001@witsmac5993.turner.com> References: <DI0xnp.4At@discus.technion.ac.il> In article <DI0xnp.4At@discus.technion.ac.il>, s2404675@techst02.technion.ac.il (Shkolnik Uri ) wrote: >1) Advice about good NexTStep administration book(s). >2) Internet NexTStep information sites. >3) Help me by E-mail for a while (I have poor English as you see but I'll > do my best..). > I'm not 100% sure what comes with what distributions and what's been installed on your machine, so this might not help. You should have a directory called /NextApps which contains an application called Librarian (everybody has this). Run the app. At the top of the window is a bookshelf of on-line manuals. If there's something called NeXTAdmin just click on it, and in the text area below, enter a topic and search. There's also a way to view all titles, then browse through the manual on your own. If there is NOT a NeXTAdmin manual in the bookshelf, you'll need to find it and add it. Leave Librarian running (move the window off to the side, you'll need it visible later) and switch back to your directory listings. Look in the directory /NeXTLibrary/Documentation. You should (hopefully) see a directory named NextAdmin. If you do, highlight this, then drag the icon (just above the list) onto the bookshelf of the Librarian window (you'll see a ghost image appear in the Librarian when you've hit the right spot). Then, continue with the searching/viewing as above. OK - if you don't have NeXTAdmin in your /NeXTLibrary/Documentation directory, then you hopefully have the NeXTStep CD for your machine. Put it in your CD ROM Drive - it will appear in your browser window. On this disk, you should find a /NeXTLibrary/Documentation directory with the Admin manual. You can drag it directly onto the Librarian window as above, it'll just be slower cause it's on CD. As far as the Internet NeXTStep sites, there are a few. Probably the best starting point is http://www.next.com If any of the above advice sounds unreliable it's because I used to own a NextStation (sold it about 18 months ago) and I'm only just now getting back into working with one so I'm relearning most everything about them. I've received enough help from people on USENET that I'm always happy to help. Good luck! Ken
From: "David N. Richards" <richards@igor> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ZSH for NeXT (Answer Found!!) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:47:25 -0500 Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951117174458.798A-100000@igor> References: <48iiso$jes@optical.fiber.net> <48ikvc$bmb@news.onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48ikvc$bmb@news.onramp.net> Thanks to those who responded - I found the source at ftp.math.gatech.edu in /pub/zsh/src It comes with a configure script that recognizes NeXTs beautifully. The build went smoothly!!! Thanks again!! Dave *********************************** David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College Voice: (718) 997-3874 *********************************** On 17 Nov 1995, Steve Dekorte wrote: > Date: 17 NOV 1995 18:40:44 GMT > From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Re: ZSH for NeXT > > > David N. Richards (richards@igor) wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I can find zsh binaries for an > > > m68K NeXTStep 3.2 machine?? Thanks in advance!! > > I've seen it on ftp.cs.orst.edu. > > SD > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: faxing to a group References: <MJANTTI.95Nov7170357@aton.abo.fi> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 08:49:44 GMT Message-ID: <1995Nov17.084944.2458@proximus.north.de> In article <MJANTTI.95Nov7170357@aton.abo.fi>, Markus J{ntti STA <mjantti@aton.abo.fi> wrote: >I recall seeing somewhere a post about faxing to a group of users. As >I remember it, the author said the User's guide had a description of >how this is done. The User's guide, however, has no such description >and I would like to know if faxing to a Group, defined in Addresses, >is possible. As far as I remember, you can do that very elegantly with StayInToch, which lets you define "preferred" contact methods. E.g. first it tries to contact all people of a group via email, then via fax, finally it prints the envelopes. However, StayInTouch.app is commercial. There's also an application from Sarrus. Try to get demos from the archives. Gerhard.
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.emulators.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.emulators.mac.executor passes 356:20 Supersedes: <comp.emulators.mac.executor-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:46:22 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.emulators.mac.executor-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> References: <44hn8g$q2@rodan.UU.NET> <12432.24890.791300@uunet.uu.net> <comp.emulators.mac.executor-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> Archive-Name: comp.emulators.mac.executor RESULT unmoderated group comp.emulators.mac.executor passes 356:20 There were 356 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 376 valid votes. There were 2 abstains and 12 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.emulators.mac.executor ARDI's Mac emulator, Executor. Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Nov 1995. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to one of the proponents. Proponent: Melissa Algeo <melissa@ardi.com> Proponent: Ian Viemeister <vmeister@ios.com> Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com> RATIONALE: comp.emulators.mac.executor The Executor Interest mailing list has 687 subscribers and a great number of regular posters, and the amount of traffic has become overwhelming. When the idea of a newsgroup arose, an interest poll was floated on the list, the results of which showed that the great majority of respondents desired to move to a newsgroup. Comp.emulators.misc is a topically appropriate forum which already contains some Executor traffic, however, the volume of Executor discussion in the mailing list far exceeds what would be appropriate in comp.emulators.misc. Much of the Executor Interest mailing list discussion revolves around specific aspects of Executor, and the amount of this traffic could inadvertently squelch the discussion of emulation technology in general. Members of the Executor user community who lack access to Usenet will continue to be served by a mirroring of the Usenet group to the mailing list and vice versa. CHARTER: comp.emulators.mac.executor Comp.emulators.mac.executor is for general discussion of ARDI's Executor software Macintosh emulator. Executor users and potential users are encouraged to discuss Executor bugs and workarounds and to share tips for getting Executor to work properly with specific hardware and/or software. ARDI will post announcements of new versions, and provide other help when possible. Criticism, advice, and mutual user assistance are all expected and encouraged. Advertisements and off-topic postings are forbidden, as is the posting of encoded binaries or any information on obtaining pirated software. The group will be gatewayed with mailing list Executor Interest, executor@nacm.com END CHARTER. comp.emulators.mac.executor Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 00cewishmeie@bsuvc.bsu.edu Erik Wishmeier 76400.34@compuserve.com Ken Meyer @mcimail.com:Edward_CHO@Appmat Eddie Cho @usc.edu:richard@runner.uucp Richard Ruth aaron@zk3.dec.com Aaron Sawyer ajaffray@midway.uchicago.edu Alan Jaffray al700751@campus.ccm.itesm.mx Leonardo Alcantara alec+@CMU.EDU G. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: Images in OmniWeb Message-ID: <DI7IB6.A6C@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: root@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Organization: Warty Wolfs References: <48bqtd$4q2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <48ctje$fue@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:28:17 GMT Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) wrote: > jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote: > > Is there any way to control which application or service renders images > > for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and > > > > dread -o OmniWeb > > > Thats no OmniWeb problem. > Use Command+3 in Workspace on a picture to choose Your favourite App to > render. That does work for double-clicking the file of the specidfied type, but unfortunately it doesn't work for services. It seems that the Workspace manager semy-randomly selects which one to use if there are two or more service providers for the same file type. About the only thing you can do is edit the `services' file in the unwanted provider's app- or bundle wrapper, and remove (or comment out) the services for the file types you don't want that provider to, erm, provide. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "there is no difference between theory and practise, __/ _/_/ at least in theory..." -- Bruce Becker
From: koden@well.sf.ca.us (John S. Cho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with triple boot: Win95,DOS,NextStep 3.3... Date: 18 Nov 1995 01:51:41 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Message-ID: <48je7d$i3f@nkosi.well.com> HELP Just got NextStep User/Developer 3.3 today and I'm extremely anxious to set it up but problem is, I have Win95 and DOS installed already and don't want to change my system regarding those two operating systems. Currently I have two 1-gigabyte internal EIDE hard drives and one internal 4.3gig SCSI2 hard drive. Win95 and DOS are installed on the 1st EIDE drive, the 2nd EIDE drive is formatted for Win/DOS and empty, and the SCSI has half of it partitioned for Win/DOS and the other half sitting empty.. What I'd like to do is setup NextStep on the empty half of the SCSI hard drive and have some kinda of dual boot set up so that I can choose at startup to boot either Win95 or NextStep (i can boot DOS from within Win95's dual boot feature)... Is this possible? Or do I have to get rid of my Win95/DOS setup? Thanks. Please reply via email. John --
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Text Conversion Date: 18 Nov 1995 18:08:53 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <48l7fl$5bn@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> URL: http://www.umich.edu/~wjabi/ On 11/12/95, Dean Blakeley MD wrote: > [Is there any] way that one can toggle these to a > mixed case format. This would go from: > >280.0 IRON DEFICIENCY ANEMIAS (INCLUDES: ANEMIA: ASIDEROTIC, ... > >to > >280.0 Iron Deficiency Anemias (Includes: Anemia: Asiderotic, ... Yet another solution is to use the Caps command in OpenWrite (if you have it). It is under Format->Text->Caps It lets you do "Sentence caps. Like this." and "Word Caps, Like This" -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail) http://www.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wait cursor animation...where is it? Date: 19 Nov 1995 00:35:28 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc. Message-ID: <48lu4g$g4l@news4.digex.net> Hi all, I need the animated technicolor-dream-coat wait cursor. I can't find where it is on the drive...must be somewhere b/c I can see it spinning. Can anyone direct me to the proper path for all the animation frames for the cursor? thanks, -- Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only... Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P) jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Message-ID: <48ikvc$bmb@news.onramp.net> Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA References: <48iiso$jes@optical.fiber.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Subject: Re: ZSH for NeXT Date: 17 Nov 1995 17:40:44 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world > David N. Richards (richards@igor) wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can find zsh binaries for an > > m68K NeXTStep 3.2 machine?? Thanks in advance!! I've seen it on ftp.cs.orst.edu. SD
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951117120955.1118D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: Princeton University References: <48dtuo$1cfo@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <48dtuo$1cfo@msunews.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ("Timothy J. Luoma") Subject: Re: Unkillable Processes Date: 17 Nov 1995 11:11:30 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world On 15 Nov 1995, Stephen J. Perkins wrote: > Date: 15 NOV 1995 23:43:20 GMT > From: Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> > Newgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Unkillable Processes > > > Earlier somebody posted a program that would attempt > to kill those nasty "unkillable" processes. My attempt > to archive that message was unsuccessful. > > Could somebody email/repost that program? > > TIA, > > Steve #include <stdio.h> #include <mach.h> main(int argc, char *argv[]){ if(argc != 2){ fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s pid\n", argv[0]); exit(1); } else { task_t task; task_by_unix_pid(task_self(), atoi(argv[1]), &task); task_terminate(task); exit(0); } } TjL
Message-ID: <48iiso$jes@optical.fiber.net> Organization: Fibernet! Satisfy the need for speed References: <469brt$8bg@news1.ucsd.edu> <46k28u$r7q@usenet.rpi.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951114201223.1083A-100000@igor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: cpayne@optical.uucp (Carl Payne) Subject: Re: ZSH for NeXT Date: 17 Nov 1995 17:05:12 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world David N. Richards (richards@igor) wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find zsh binaries for an > m68K NeXTStep 3.2 machine?? Thanks in advance!! Isn't it on the Fatted Calf CD? I know the tcsh source is (which built just fine on my slowaris machine, even!) -- Carl
From: schaub@tamu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ISDN on Nextstation Date: 19 Nov 1995 15:09:02 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <48nhae$k7d@news.tamu.edu> What would be involved in setting up an ISDN line on a Nextstation? In particular, what software is needed to support it, would NXFax be able to handle that? I currently own a ZyXEL E2864 with NXFax. If I upgraded, what type of speed would the Nextstation be able to handle? I know, questions, questions, questions,.... :-) Thanks for any info, HP --- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull -- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUBMISSION: Shanghai v0.8. A beautiful NeXTmj remake->where? Date: 19 Nov 1995 19:59:55 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <48o2br$a7i@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Does anyone know where this is? It doesn't appear to be at any of the sites mentioned. -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: john@ablecom.net (John Stytz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISDN on Nextstation (long) Date: 19 Nov 1995 20:18:49 GMT Organization: Able Technical Services Message-ID: <48o3f9$sgh@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> On 11/18/95, schaub@tamu.edu wrote: > >What would be involved in setting up an ISDN line on a Nextstation? In particular, >what software is needed to support it, would NXFax be able to handle that? >I currently own a ZyXEL E2864 with NXFax. If I upgraded, what type of speed would the >Nextstation be able to handle? >I know, questions, questions, questions,.... :-) > >Thanks for any info, > >HP > >--- > Hanspeter Schaub > Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant > Aerospace Engineering Department > Texas A&M University > http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub > schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) > >We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and >intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! >-Jonathon Livingston Seagull > >-- > Hanspeter Schaub > Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant > Aerospace Engineering Department > Texas A&M University > http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub > schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) > >We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! >-Jonathon Livingston Seagull > > Hi Hanspeter, You really have two ways to go with ISDN. The first is to get a ISDN device that plugs into your serial port (ala Motorola BitSurfer). It looks just like a modem to your software, so any devices that could use a modem are at home with it. No special drivers are required. The bad part is that you are held hostage to the quality of the serial port drivers (traditionally not a strong feature in NS). Also, you can only use one B-channel (64kbps), even if you get a device that will support two, since most serial ports do not operate reliably at 128kpbs. This is also the route you would take if you upgrade your ZyXEL. The other alternative is to get a dialup bridge/router (ala Ascend Pipeline 25). This device is attached to your network or ethernet port and does dial-on demand when it is fed packets that need to go somewhere. This is the method I use for ISDN. I have a cable running from the back of my ethernet card to it, and when I fire up say, OmniWeb, it detects packets that have a remote IP address, so it dials up my ISP and connects me, then starts passing packets. This entire process takes under 1 second. I am not dependant on serial port drivers, rather network drivers, and I can use it with any device that supports ethernet. Also, a network card can easily support the 128kbps traffic that 2B-channel ISDN can transfer. The downside is this solution costs about twice as much as the one above. You could do either of these with a NeXT. You can also get devices of either kind that have phone jacks to support analog devices like modems. Unfortuantely, being digital doesn't speed them up any (i.e. my fax still runs at 14.4kbps, despite taking up a full 64kbps B-channel when I use it). Depending on your processor, you could probably drive the serial port at close to 1B-channel capacity. It is highly unlikely you could generate enough traffic (even over your ethernet card) to saturate a 2B-channel connection. This is mostly due to the fact that most of the hosts you could connect to do not have as fast a connection as you do. (Unless I am connecting to a local big .com or .edu, I cannot max out my connection). Please post if you have additional questions, or feel free to email me if you have questions regarding your specific setup/application. -- John Stytz johns@ablecom.net, NeXTmail welcome
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: memory Exhausted Date: 19 Nov 1995 21:19:36 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <48o718$ol1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello all... after upgrading to the new 3.3 patches I've had a bit of trouble with my Emacs application. I use Carl E.'s most excellent port of 19.xx. The windowed version works just as well as ever. However, now when I fire up emacs-nw in a terminal window, I get a "memory exhausted" error. Many things do not work properly in the terminal windowed version (sometimes I get thrown out back to the shell). I checked my shell 'limits' (which have not changed) and they all appear reasonable. I even tried firing up emacs-nw under different shells. As far as I know, I havn't changed anything with my emacs or shell setup recently. Thoughts? Solutions? TIA for any info! - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: Edmund Ronald <eronald@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: F* this guy(Re: Make Money with the Internet ! ! !) Date: 19 Nov 1995 21:21:49 GMT Organization: Not much. Message-ID: <48o75d$2as@sheckley.cnam.fr> References: <48h4q4$hth@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: adesuasi@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu everyone mail this guy - perhaps his server'll crash :)
From: pixel8ed@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Pixelated Technologies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT stuff FOR SALE!!!!!! Date: 19 Nov 1995 16:03:05 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <48ogjp$sk6@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NeXT stuff on SALE!!!!!! We're offering the following items for sale: NeXT color station 20MB RAM 400MB Drive 21Ó color monitor NeXTSTEP 3.3 installed +NeXT Laser Printer, as is ............................................$1900 HARDWARE: HSD Professional scanner - used. but working 600 dpi, works great!!! Inludes Scan-X software .....................................$300 HSD Professional scanner - as is .....................................$100 NeXT Laser printer 400dpi grayscale used .................................$200 NeXT Laser printer 400 dpi grayscale new ...................................$280 Hard drive case (1/2 height).....$100 Optical drives, new.................@$200 (includes free OD cartridge) Optical drives, as is................$50 Optical drives, non-working (for parts)..........@$25 NuDesign CDRom Drive...........$150 2X speed Use with PC or Mac too! TrailBlazer 14.4 Modem........$100 NeXT ADB Keyboard........................$50 Keyboard + ADB Mouse.....................$150 Sony 2.88MB floppy drives.........@$80 ACCESSORIES/Parts Toner cartridge...............$50 Paper cassettes.............@$15 ($40 for 4) NeXTStation Power Supply..............$120 NeXT Cube 68040 motherboard (as is)..............$175 SOFTWARE NeXTSTEP Developer (Commercial License upgradable to 3.3 ) 3.2 for Intel..............$300 MachTen Unix software for Macintosh............................$300 Cricket Presents for Mac...........................$200 NeXTSTEP 3.1 shrinkwrapped........................$100 Oracle database and developer system - license transferrable to other platforms: loader v1.0.18 plus v3.0.8, reportv1.1.9, transaction prcessing option v6.0, net tcp/ip v1.2.7, pl/sql v1.0.32 production, bootstrap disk, pro*v1.315, crtv 1.0.8prod, rdbms v6.0.30 1-4 (Transferrable) PLUS, a veritable plethora of power cables, SCSI cables, Optical drive cartridges and cables, etc. CHEAP!!!!! If you donÕt see it, and you need it, ASK! Also, we have printers, monitors, etc. which weÕll sell for parts, as is. Some of the above prices are negotiable, some are firm. Please inquire.If youÕre interested in purchasing, or have questions about any of the above items, please reply to this address, or call Pixelated Technologies at (415)-554-0546 or toll-free at 1-800-PIXEL-ME. -- Pixelated Technologies The source for NeXT and NeXTStep (415)-554-0546 1-800-PIXEL-ME
From: pixel8ed@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Pixelated Technologies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Colorstation For Sale! Date: 19 Nov 1995 16:10:03 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <48oh0r$t8r@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NeXT color station 20MB RAM 400MB Drive 21Ó color monitor NeXTSTEP 3.3 installed +NeXT Laser Printer, as is ............................................$1900 Please inquire.If youÕre interested in purchasing, or have questions about any of the above items, please reply to this address, or call Pixelated Technologies at (415)-554-0546 or toll-free at 1-800-PIXEL-ME. -- Pixelated Technologies The source for NeXT and NeXTStep (415)-554-0546 1-800-PIXEL-ME
From: pixel8ed@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Pixelated Technologies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT and other software FS!! Date: 19 Nov 1995 16:12:56 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <48oh68$ec@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NeXTSTEP Developer (Commercial License upgradable to 3.3 ) 3.2 for Intel..............$300 MachTen Unix software for Macintosh............................$300 Cricket Presents for Mac...........................$200 NeXTSTEP 3.1 shrinkwrapped........................$100 Oracle database and developer system - license transferrable to other platforms: loader v1.0.18 plus v3.0.8, reportv1.1.9, transaction prcessing option v6.0, net tcp/ip v1.2.7, pl/sql v1.0.32 production, bootstrap disk, pro*v1.315, crtv 1.0.8prod, rdbms v6.0.30 1-4 (Transferable) Some prices on these items are negotiable, some are firm.Please inquire.If youÕre interested in purchasing, or have questions about any of the above items, please reply to this address, or call Pixelated Technologies at (415)-554-0546 or toll-free at 1-800-PIXEL-ME. -- Pixelated Technologies The source for NeXT and NeXTStep (415)-554-0546 1-800-PIXEL-ME
From: taylorm@dcas.com (James T Musslewhite) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: !IBM Software Closeout Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:12:44 GMT Organization: LDS iAmerica Message-ID: <48osb0$i5j@ns3.iamerica.net> Hi! Are you looking for that hard to find older title. We just might have it. We have a large selection of older IBM compatible titles just waiting for you. If you are interested in a list, please e-mail to taylorm@dcas.com. We look forward to hearing from you!!! Also, please email if you want our new WWW location where you can see and purchase Percale Sheets, Gormet Smoked Meats, etc.
From: taylorm@dcas.com (James T Musslewhite) Organization: LDS iAmerica Message-ID: <cancel.48osb0$i5j@ns3.iamerica.net> Control: cancel <48osb0$i5j@ns3.iamerica.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <48osb0$i5j@ns3.iamerica.net> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:41:32 KST SPAM cancelled by jem@pal.postech.ac.kr
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 20 Nov 1995 05:15:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <48p2t3$ch3@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. 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WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Improv Scripting In-Reply-To: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu's message of 19 Nov 1995 19:36:20 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Nov20005907@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <48o0vk$f1s@news.alaska.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:59:07 GMT This really belongs in the software or misc groups... Lotus Improv had a scripting language called "Oakum" that we had planned to release in a future release of the product. Unfortunately, sales of NeXT computers were slim so we focused on Improv for Windows. You can't enable the scripting language because it's not compiled in. There may be a few stray symbols here and there but that's all. I forget what the EnableLotusUseOnly does but I doubt it's anything useful. BackBayFE stands for "BackBay Front End" The project code name for Improv was "Back Bay" and front end just means the UI and controller layer. BTW - You should look at Lighthouse Design's product "Quantrix 2.0" Robert La Ferla Formerly of Lotus Advanced Technology Group (BackBay) rdl@world.std.com In article <48o0vk$f1s@news.alaska.edu> fflak@aurora.alaska.edu (KELLY ALONZO H) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:22708 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!biosci!news.alaska.edu!aurora.alaska.edu!fflak From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu (KELLY ALONZO H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 19 Nov 1995 19:36:20 GMT Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.alaska.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Poking around in Improv with otool, it is obvious that at lease some scripting functionality was in Rel 1 (V108r0). There are .nib files in the __NIB section that start with "PL" that relate to scripting. It would appear that, at a minimum, menu items with particular tags need to be added to access these nibs, and perhaps other patches need to be made. There is a tantalizing string in the __TEXT segment string table: "EnableLotusUseOnly". Debugging info is stripped, and all the routines show up in gdb as offsets from "_mh_execute_header()". The menu picks are dispatched through [BackBayFE MenuSelect:], which I would have thought would be a straightforward switch, but seems more complex. It's been a long time since I tried to read M680XX assembler. Anyhow, someone else noticed this stuff years ago, as posted in the Improv mailing list archive on ftp.cs.orst.edu. I contacted him, and he said noone has come forward with a way of activating this stuff. I just spent an evening at it, getting pretty much nowhere. Does anyone have any ideas or knowledge or interest in this esoteric piece of orphan software? I would really appreciate any info. I know I could buy another spreadsheet, but I don't want to spend any more money on my old cube. Thanks Lon Kelly fflak@aurora.alaska.edu
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISDN on Nextstation Date: 20 Nov 1995 07:17:48 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <48prlc$egc@papoose.quick.com> References: <48nhae$k7d@news.tamu.edu> In article <48nhae$k7d@news.tamu.edu>, <schaub@tamu.edu> wrote: >What would be involved in setting up an ISDN line on a Nextstation? >In particular, what software is needed to support it, would NXFax >be able to handle that? I currently own a ZyXEL E2864 with NXFax. >If I upgraded, what type of speed would the Nextstation be able to >handle? I know, questions, questions, questions,.... :-) The stock serial ports on NeXT hardware do not go fast enough to justify ISDN via an ISDN modem or terminal adapter. The older hardware will only do 38400 baud. A Turbo can do 57600 baud, but only with very high interrupt load. You are better off with a standalone ISDN bridge or router. At the low end, one of these will cost you around $750. A higher end box with routing and compression may cost close to $1000. The benfit is that it will be easier to maintain and your system will spend a lot less CPU doing mindless chores like servicing character interrupts and encoding/decoding PPP or slip packets. The TTYDSP product can drive a serial device at high enough rates, but the compatibility is dicey. I think it might work with an old Transys PNI slip package, but that is no longer sold. TTYDSP does not work with the freeware PPP. If you are seriously considering ISDN do not use a terminal adapter. Bridges/routers are a few hundred more expensive but you will get much better performance, and when you change your platform as long as it has TCP/IP it will just work. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: Dazevedo@telepac.pt (D.Santos Azevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: To Sung Ho Kim Date: 20 Nov 1995 14:36:12 GMT Organization: DSA, Serviços Message-ID: <48q3os$3sh@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Please contact me. Your email adress don't acept any mail. bye
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vdemarco@whatnow.bou.shl.com (Vince Demarco) Subject: Re: memory Exhausted In-Reply-To: perkins@cps.msu.edu's message of 19 Nov 1995 21:19:36 GMT Message-ID: <m8ka4v5lwa.fsf@whatnow.bou.shl.com> Sender: vdemarco@whatnow.bou.shl.com Organization: SHL SystemHouse Inc. References: <48o718$ol1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:46:45 GMT >Hello all... after upgrading to the new 3.3 patches I've had >a bit of trouble with my Emacs application. I use Carl E.'s >most excellent port of 19.xx. The windowed version works just >as well as ever. However, now when I fire up emacs-nw in a terminal >window, I get a "memory exhausted" error. Many things do not work properly >in the terminal windowed version (sometimes I get thrown out back to the >shell). The patch replaces a shared library libsys_s.B.shlib. So what you need to do is recompile emacs. Part of the emacs compilation process is having it load a bunch of lisp files into memory and then dumping a memory image back to disk. If the shared libraries change emacs need to be redumped (or just as easily recompiled) vince
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISDN on Nextstation (long) Date: 20 Nov 1995 20:52:02 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <48qppi$bu6@news.its.com> References: <48o3f9$sgh@srv1.sj.ablecom.net> john@ablecom.net (John Stytz) wrote: > Depending on your processor, you could probably drive the serial port at > close to 1B-channel capacity. It is highly unlikely you could generate > enough traffic (even over your ethernet card) to saturate a 2B-channel > connection. I wouldn't worry about not being able to "max out" a 128K pipeline. Most people seem to manage that pretty easily just by web surfing. If all else fails, run a Usenet news server.... :-) -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISDN on Nextstation Date: 21 Nov 1995 00:29:43 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <48r6hn$4is@news.onramp.net> References: <48prlc$egc@papoose.quick.com> There is also the Hayes NeXT ISDN connector which you can probably buy used for ~$100(I did anyways). You might find the tech info on it in NeXTanswers on www.next.com. Note: Unless your area has really good deals on ISDN, a 28.8 modem on a standard line or a 56k line are better for (kilobit/sec)/dollars. You may want to check the prices carefully and remember that you'll need to pay for the ISDN installation & line *and* the ISDN internet connection, both are usually are quite expensive. Also, not all ISDN lines support the same bandwidth. Steve
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD-R Sofware Date: 21 Nov 1995 04:01:40 GMT Organization: Viaduct, Inc. Message-ID: <48riv4$t2v@news3.digex.net> References: <487p1n$13m0@ftp.univie.ac.at> Anyone tried dd'ing an image from a CD, to a hard drive, then back to a CD-R device? </eal> -- Eric A. Litman Internet Technology vox: 301.493.0220 elitman@nxstep.com and Marketing Consulting pag: 800.570.4400
From: naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Repairing corrupted floppy disk Date: 21 Nov 1995 04:53:00 GMT Organization: FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet Message-ID: <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> So just what happens when you press the <repair> button when the system [NS3.2 black] can't read a floppy it's been kind enough to hose? Am I probably gonna lose all the data on the disk? Should I boot single-user and dd from the device so I have some attempt at a backup copy of the corrupted data? Is <repair> two cents short of <initialize>, or might I actually salvage most of the data? Yeah, yeah, I know: if I had concientious tape backup scheme, I wouldn't have to ask these questions. So humor me. Yeah, yeah, that's it: it's only a hypothetical question. A meekish Naj Three ways to know a man: by his discourse, his conduct, and his companions -- triad from _Black Book of Carmarthen_ M. `Naj' Najarian vox/tape: 610.756.6888 Fraxinus Research Services fax/data: 610.756.6400 Kutztown, PA 19530 USA ee: fraxinus@fast.net (MIME, NeXT, whatever)
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Repairing corrupted floppy disk Date: 21 Nov 1995 09:03:59 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <48s4lv$3qu@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> In article <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian) writes: > So just what happens when you press the <repair> button when the system > [NS3.2 black] can't read a floppy it's been kind enough to hose? Am I > probably gonna lose all the data on the disk? Should I boot single-user and > dd from the device so I have some attempt at a backup copy of the corrupted > data? Is <repair> two cents short of <initialize>, or might I actually > salvage most of the data? repair is something like fsck, you can do it and most of the time you won't loose any data (I DID this!). Your disk will be corrupted, e.g., if you remove it without using the eject button first, so the file system is not synchronized. hope that helps, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Repairing corrupted floppy disk Date: 21 Nov 1995 09:39:58 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <48s6pe$qib@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> In article <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian) writes: > So just what happens when you press the <repair> button when the system > [NS3.2 black] can't read a floppy it's been kind enough to hose? Am I > probably gonna lose all the data on the disk? Should I boot single-user and > dd from the device so I have some attempt at a backup copy of the corrupted > data? Is <repair> two cents short of <initialize>, or might I actually > salvage most of the data? It runs fsck on it, which is probably as good as you'll get. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: neuss@sun10 (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISDN on Nextstation Date: 21 Nov 1995 14:53:24 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Systemarchitektur, TH Darmstadt, Germany Message-ID: <48sp54$2eaa@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <48prlc$egc@papoose.quick.com> <48r6hn$4is@news.onramp.net> Steve Dekorte (dekorte@suite.com) wrote: : Note: Unless your area has really good deals on ISDN, a 28.8 modem : on a standard line or a 56k line are better for (kilobit/sec)/dollars. : You may want to check the prices carefully and remember that you'll : need to pay for the ISDN installation & line *and* the ISDN internet : connection, both are usually are quite expensive. Also, not all : ISDN lines support the same bandwidth. I second that. Plus, what good does a fast connection do you if the bandwidth available is less then what a fast modem can give you? There's no use in buying an ISDN connection for doing WWW or ftp, unless your service provider has a _real fast_ feed. If you need ISDN for some reason, get a router. Otherwise, you probably better stick with a fast modem. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: Borek Lupomesky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Shanghai v0.8. A beautiful NeXTmj remake->where? Date: 21 Nov 1995 08:15:05 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <48s1q9$dp9@ns.felk.cvut.cz> References: <48o2br$a7i@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> In <48o2br$a7i@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Philip McDunnough wrote: > Does anyone know where this is? It doesn't appear to be at any of the sites > mentioned. It is there. I have downloaded it and it's really great. Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Borek Lupomesky (student, co-admin) University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: Jo Peters <peters@boystown.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (no subject) Date: 21 Nov 1995 21:11:00 GMT Organization: Novia Internetworking <> 28.8kbps dialup; 402/390-2NET Message-ID: <48tf94$e9s@nntp.novia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're running NextStep 3.0 on a Next box. And: We are having a problem w/ the named daemon on our primary nameserver. A week ago it began dying several times a day for reasons unknown. I have worked on this system for 3 1/2 years and have not seen this problem before. In attempts to resolve the problem, I have: 1) Rebooted the system. No errors were reported during shutdown or reboot. File system appears to be OK. After rebooting, named continues to die. 2) Run named in debug mode, to see if any errors are reported at the time of death. No. No errors are written to any log files or to the console. In looking at the log file which is produced when named is running in debug mode, there is no apparent pattern to what is occurring at the time of named's death. (No particular host doing a query, etc.). 3) No system files were changed prior to this problem. We did have our usenet news feed terminated about the time this started, but I'm not sure which happened first - the end of news or the named problem. At any rate, all jobs related to news have been removed from the cron table, etc. 4) We have two machines running the same Unix (identical versions). I compared the named executables using the cmp command; no differences were identified, so I don't think the executable has been corrupted. 5) There is no consistent system activity going on at the time of named's death; i.e., there is no particular cronjob running when named dies. 6) Time of death appears to be random. The problem appears to be getting worse, however; last week named tended to die 2 times a day. This week it's been dying more frequently. So, bottom line is, I have no clues as to why named dies. Has anyone seen this? Do you have suggestions as to how I can track down the problem? Thanks, Jo Peters Boystown National Research Hospital peters@boystown.org 555 N. 30th St. Omaha, NE 68131 (402) 498-6672
From: power@inch.com (Power Media Communications) Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: * Experienced Video Telecommunications Programmer Wanted * Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:27:22 GMT Organization: The Internet Channel Message-ID: <power.55.30B2362A@inch.com> New York City based company seeks experienced programmer to work on new innovative video teleconferencing application. Should have knowledge of the internet, web servers, video teleconferencing, dialogic boards, and general programming skills. Competitive compensation. [ Power Media Communications ] Please email resume and salary requirements to: power@inch.com Or fax to: (212) 223-8765
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Shanghai v0.8. A beautiful NeXTmj remake->where? Date: 22 Nov 1995 05:27:33 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <48ucc5$4jq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <48o2br$a7i@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <48s1q9$dp9@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Borek Lupomesky wrote: > In <48o2br$a7i@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Philip McDunnough wrote: > > Does anyone know where this is? It doesn't appear to be at any of the > sites > > mentioned. > > It is there. I have downloaded it and it's really great. Where exactly is it and under which name? I still can't find it! Philip -- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: mickwu@kaiwan.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: No man pages after installation of user and developer CDs Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 05:37:18 GMT Organization: Internet Online Services Message-ID: <48uco5$iab@news2.ios.com> Hi all, I finally could afford to purchase a used 3.1 user and developers CDs for my Nextstation. :-) Yeaaahhh! I got some questions regarding the man page help files and ttys + gettytab for dial-up. 1) Is there a .PKG file for installing man pages? After installing both 3.1 user and developer CDs no man pages were installed on my Nextstation. Am I missing some steps in between the installation procedures? Please advice! 2) I would like to setup the Nextstation for remote computer to login by a v.34 modem. I have change the following in ttys and gettytab. in /etc/ttys I have modify the ttydfa to the following... ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.38400 vt100 on secure and added std.38400 in the gettytab as follows: h|std.38400|38400-baud:\ :sp#38400:p8=true: As for the hardware connection to USR 28.8k modem I am using a regular modem cable (I was able to use this to dial-out with Microphone). I am not sure if I need to get any special modem cable for dial-in. By the way, I was able to succefully login to the nextstation by using the same modem cable with a null modem adapter. I have read from Ron Wood's article (ron@ucr.edu) about wiring the modem cable to use the hardware flow control lines. I would like to know how to accomplish this task but my man pages were not available at this moment. I hope I have provided enough information for my problems... Please give any comments or advice! Thank you!
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Shanghai .8-where is it? Date: 22 Nov 1995 09:03:44 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto Message-ID: <48up1g$9s1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> A recent announcement of a version of Shanghai for NEXTSTEP was made. The program is supposed to be at ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Games/ ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games/board ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/ However, it does not appear to be at any of these places. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thank's...Philip ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: pete@voyager.whoi.edu (Peter Schmitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 22 Nov 1995 14:44:48 GMT Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Message-ID: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: cc -bsd -fwritable-strings -O -I../hdrs -c mcprt.c In file included from ../hdrs/defs.h:600, from mcprt.c:48: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/strings.h:23: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strlen' mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) mcprt.c:65: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once mcprt.c:65: for each function it appears in.) mcprt.c: In function `MCfprintf': mcprt.c:88: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) mcprt.c: In function `MCsprintf': mcprt.c:111: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) *** Exit 1 Is there a config fix for this? -pete --- Peter Schmitt {####} Information Systems Assoc. II {###} pschmitt@whoi.edu _________ \|/ ++ / _______________ |_______|__/-\__|-|_^_/-\__||_n ==== n_/ Woods Hole \_ |[][] |----------------|----| \ 158 Clark Building | Oceanographic || UNIX ________________|_|| | Ph: 508/289-2877 | Institution | ------/ ==__---__ ====--||- Fx: 508/457-2174 q|===================|_|=====__/ =======|=====[__]-p Woods Hole, MA 02543 ____( )( )______( )( )__________\ /_\ /_\ /_________________________________
From: macro@cisnet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any software to link postscript files? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:12:52 GMT Organization: CISNet, Inc. Message-ID: <951122101252.562AAFEF.sumair@pune> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone recommend software to link separate postscript files so that they become one document, e.g. linking a document from WriteUp with a document from Diagrom so that they may be faxed as one document? I've heard of PageChain, but have not used it. Is there anything available that's downloadable for free? Your help is greatly appreciated! Sumair MIME/NeXT mail <macro@cisnet.com>
From: dratler@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (David Dratler) Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.misc Subject: recovering data from a corrupted 4mm tape Date: 22 Nov 95 16:47:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <dratler.817058834@aries> Keywords: 4mm tape data_corruption Hi, i have a 4mm tape that has been partially corrupted and want to find out if i can recover the uncorrupted data on the tape. the data was originally written with one tar command. this data was corrupted when i accidentally over wrote it, again using tar. however, i believe i only overwrote a small portion of the original data. so my question is, is there a way to recover that data that has not been overwritten. thanks dave dratler university of illinois ddratler@uiuc.edu
From: a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Amazing Mac-Emulator Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:06:50 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <48vsca$gvg@ftp.univie.ac.at> I've worked with Quix's Daydream Mac emulator for black Next machines now for several days. After having seen *many different emulators on a variety of platforms I have to tell that this is probably one of the coolest pieces of software available (in any case for the next): the emulation is-as for my tests *perfect - anything works. One can not tell the difference to a real Mac (a 25mhz 68040 compares to a Quadra 900 BTW). They managed to do this with less than 250k of compiled code (!) between the hw and the included mac roms/os. I fully recommend this for any next owner (no affiliation) and wish Quix would succeed getting Daydream out for other platforms. -------------------========== Best Regards ==========--------------------- Michael F. Alexander mfa@centrex.com Michael.Alexander@serv.univie.ac.at ----------------------------===================---------------------------
From: Tal Lancaster <tlan> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images in OmniWeb Date: 22 Nov 1995 20:50:26 GMT Organization: Walt Disney Studios Message-ID: <4902ei$lq3@cabinboy.studio.disney.com> References: <48bqtd$4q2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <48ctje$fue@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) wrote: >jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote: >> Is there any way to control which application or service renders images >> for OmniWeb? There's nothing about this in the online help and >> >> dread -o OmniWeb >> >Thats no OmniWeb problem. >Use Command+3 in Workspace on a picture to choose Your favourite App to >render. > Actually, even it you have done this and have ImageViewer, it will still be called over what you picked. Somebody posted a good work around to disable ImageViewer from being called from OmniWeb (and anything else): Under the ImageViewer.app rename the Services to say Services.disabled >- Karsten >--- > Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE > NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome > Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 > *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP *** -- Tal Lancaster Technical Director, Disney Feature Animation email: tlan@fa.disney.com WEB: The RenderMan Repository (http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/)
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WriteNow to rtf converter Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:03:22 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <4906na$ph4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I may have missed this on the archives, but is there a .wn to rtf converter that is compiled for Intel? Thanks, David -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: [W] Tips on recoding NeXT/Adobes standard encoding Date: 23 Nov 1995 00:27:12 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <490bkg$2o2@alf.uib.no> I know that Adobe supports a larger character set than NeXT, and have had problems getting certain letters (mostly composites, zcaron, scaron, etc). A friend had tried recoding to put the special letters in question within the 255 range for use on NeXT, and it works. The problem is that the keyboard has to be completely reprogrammed because of the displacement caused in the coding. My question is: is it possible to recode a part/subset of standardencoding to enable use of special letters (by removing others seldomly/never used) without messing up the entire keyboard? I looked a bit in Thinking in PostScript but I'm not too good at the technical/programming side of things. Please e-mail replies. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Font conversion problems (Fonts 4 NS - where?) Date: 23 Nov 1995 00:29:05 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <490bo1$32l@alf.uib.no> I'm having big problems trying to convert some fonts I bought (in Mac format) to NeXT. Some years ago mcvert/mfrc did a great job, now they seem not to work (maybe mac has changed some internal format aspects?), mfrc never finds the POST resources despite they (appearing) to be there. I tried hexbin, macunpack, other programs to unpack the file (from an email message) and got 3 parts - data, resource and info. I tried using the font by manually removing the binary header but it caused WS crashes. So - some questions: 1. Where do NeXTsteppers buy fonts from and in what format? 2. Exist newer/better/working tools (free!) for font conversion Mac->NeXT? 3. Same as 2 but for PC. 4. If NeXT specific fonts aren't available, what does one do instead? Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize if there is interest. P.S. The problem font in question is Sonata, but I'm planning on converting others as well... Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Font conversion problems (Fonts 4 NS - where?) Date: 23 Nov 1995 08:45:31 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-f-70.usc.edu Message-ID: <491cbb$1ll@usc.edu> References: <490bo1$32l@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) wrote: > I'm having big problems trying to convert some fonts I bought (in > Mac format) to NeXT. Some years ago mcvert/mfrc did a great job, > now they seem not to work (maybe mac has changed some internal > format aspects?), mfrc never finds the POST resources despite they > (appearing) to be there. I tried hexbin, macunpack, other programs > to unpack the file (from an email message) and got 3 parts - > data, resource and info. I tried using the font by manually removing > the binary header but it caused WS crashes. Try: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/fonts/pcATMfont2Next.tar.Z ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/fonts/Mac2NextFontConvert.tar.Zv As far as I know, all the NeXT ftp sites have font directories. And Adobe does sell fonts, and some of the CD Roms carry NS specific fonts. -- Thanks and be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV For my PGP key - send email subject "request_PGP"
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: indent and NSStrings Date: 23 Nov 1995 12:34:43 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <491pp3$i5c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> I guess not many people use the indent utility, or I would have seen something here already, but anyway... FYI indent changes NSStrings declared like: NSString* myString = @"some string"; to this: NSString* myString = @ "some string"; (note the space) Of course, now that causes an error... The man page doesn't seem to indicate a way to change this, so I guess the "Objective C program formatter" is useless with FK. Dave
From: root@asylum.ucdavis.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Changing finger Information Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:12:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <48vsni$ouf@mark.ucdavis.edu> Has anyone tried to change the finger info using passwd -f? When I try this I get this response: Cannot change finger information or shell with NetInfo (yet). any clues? thanks
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: 23 Nov 1995 10:03:36 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4922g8$lra@papoose.quick.com> References: <48tf94$e9s@nntp.novia.net> In article <48tf94$e9s@nntp.novia.net>, Jo Peters <peters@boystown.org> wrote: >We're running NextStep 3.0 on a Next box. And: > >We are having a problem w/ the named daemon on our primary nameserver. >A week ago it began dying several times a day for reasons unknown. I have >worked on this system for 3 1/2 years and have not seen this problem before. >In attempts to resolve the problem, I have: > >1) Rebooted the system. No errors were reported during shutdown or reboot. > File system appears to be OK. After rebooting, named continues to die. >2) Run named in debug mode, to see if any errors are reported at the > time of death. No. No errors are written to any log files or to the > console. In looking at the log file which is produced when named is > running in debug mode, there is no apparent pattern to what is occurring > at the time of named's death. (No particular host doing a query, etc.). You need to debug at higher levels of detail. Try named -d2, then named -d3, etc. until /usr/tmp/named.run contains a reference to the offending problem. At some point you will probably be able to narrow it down to a dns server somewhere thats spitting out information which is causing the problem. Actually, I suspect the problem actually lies in the NeXT implementation of named, but hey, what can you do. It's better to work around a named problem than use another OS. I had a problem a number of months ago just before Alternet phased out ns.uu.net. The new replacement kept causing my named to shit the bed. I kept tuning my DNS startup files by forcing named to use other domain servers instead of the one which was crashing. After several weeks of using my hacked startup files, I tested again with the old files and they started working again. Why? I dunno. Sorry I cannot be of much explicit help. I hope that getting more detailed debugging output will help you track it down yourself. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 23 Nov 1995 10:07:30 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> References: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: >I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) (munch) You need to #include <varargs.h>. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Repairing corrupted floppy disk Date: 23 Nov 1995 15:42:07 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4924of$fnh@news.its.com> References: <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> <48s4lv$3qu@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) wrote: > In article <48rlvc$opt@nn.fast.net> naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' > Najarian) writes: >> So just what happens when you press the <repair> button when the system >> [NS3.2 black] can't read a floppy it's been kind enough to hose? The Workspace tries to fsck the floppy's filesystem. >> Am I probably gonna lose all the data on the disk? Probably not, unless the disk is physically damaged. >> Should I boot single-user and dd from the device so I have some attempt >> at a backup copy of the corrupted data? It wouldn't help. You'd have to fsck/"Repair" the copied disk anyway before you can mount it. >> Is <repair> two cents short of <initialize>, or might I actually >> salvage most of the data? You should get everything back fine, although you may not. > repair is something like fsck, you can do it and most of the time you > won't loose any data (I DID this!). Your disk will be corrupted, e.g., if > you remove it without using the eject button first, so the file system is > not synchronized. Exactly. Be sure to unmount disks properly, or you can corrupt things. Generally, fsck will handle most problems without losing anything, but it's not good practice. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: after patch 3.3.: "Memory exhausted" Date: 16 Nov 1995 20:36:21 GMT Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Nov16133621@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> After installing patch 3.3, I couldn't use EMACS any more. (Emacs.app still works). As long as I start #emacs in terminal.app, I would get message "Memory exhausted" under the emacs bar. Hope someone could save me. zhao
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.misc Subject: Re: recovering data from a corrupted 4mm tape Date: 23 Nov 1995 11:06:15 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <49265n$m54@papoose.quick.com> References: <dratler.817058834@aries> Keywords: 4mm tape data_corruption In article <dratler.817058834@aries>, David Dratler <dratler@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> wrote: > >Hi, > >i have a 4mm tape that has been partially corrupted and want to find out >if i can recover the uncorrupted data on the tape. > >the data was originally written with one tar command. this data was >corrupted when i accidentally over wrote it, again using tar. however, >i believe i only overwrote a small portion of the original data. > >so my question is, is there a way to recover that data that has not >been overwritten. First you need to grab the data from the original tar archive. Skip over the first partial tar archive with 'mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 1' Now (from a directory on a dist with enough free space to hold the archive, use dd to read in the corrupt tar file. 'dd if=/dev/rst0 > bad.tar' Open the tar file manually in an editor that can handle large binary files. (In NEXSTEP you can open it in Edit.app.) Each sequence of blocks in a tar file, begins with the path name of the file they contain. Scroll beyond the initial blocks of the file which do not begin with a pathname. The pathname is stored in the first 100 bytes of each block and will be padded with NULLs. These will look like spaces in Edit. After the padding you will see a sequence of digits also padded with what looks like space. You should create a small tar file on disk just to orient yourself so you know what to look for. Anyway, simply select from the beginning of the file to the character before the first good header block in the file, and delete it. You can then save the file to disk, and use tar normally to rescue the data. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help. Lost Reference Date: 23 Nov 1995 09:09:21 GMT Organization: NCSR DEMOKRITUS - ARIADNE NETWORK Message-ID: <491do1$7u7@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr> Hello netters. I would like to ask for some help. Apparently i have lost the Reference subdirectory fo NextLibrary in a next running 2.1. The Webster nxbf file is still in my disks, as i have the extended version 2.1, but i have lost all the tiff, Thesaurus and other useful things with no way to recover them as the DAT has everything on it but this directory(was a symbolic link ... (sigh) ). If any nice person was to contact me in order to e-mail me or let me ftp these things, I would appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Ioannis -------------------------------- An original NeXT user.
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Amazing Mac-Emulator Date: 24 Nov 1995 06:52:46 GMT Organization: A Big Black Cube Message-ID: <493q3u$61j@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> References: <48vsca$gvg@ftp.univie.ac.at> a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) wrote: > I've worked with Quix's Daydream Mac emulator for black Next machines now for > several days. After having seen *many different emulators on a variety of > platforms I have to tell that this is probably one of the coolest pieces of > software available (in any case for the next): the emulation is-as for my > tests *perfect - anything works. One can not tell the difference to a real Mac > (a 25mhz 68040 compares to a Quadra 900 BTW). They managed to do this with > less than 250k of compiled code (!) between the hw and the included mac roms/os. > I fully recommend this for any next owner (no affiliation) and wish Quix would > succeed getting Daydream out for other platforms. I have to agree with you on these points, but it is not compatible with everything. The one program it *had* to run on my machine wouldn't. Also, certain Apple programs & utilities like to scan HW and notice some- thing is wrong, for example Diskcopy. But it runs everything else... After seeing it run Netscape for Mac on a 57600 PPP connection, I decided I must keep it. :) -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Robert Worne rworne@primenet.com OS/2-NeXT -=Starving CS Undergrad=- //--------------------------------------------------------------------- // Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in // any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Robert Worne, 1995. // License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. // Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. // Please send notices of violation to rworne@primenet.com and // postmaster@microsoft.com
From: Žfalkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP - No console! Date: 24 Nov 1995 08:57:24 GMT Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Message-ID: <4941dk$57j@nyheter.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When I try to open the console in WM (using the tools menu) nothing happens. I guess I have accidently deleted something, but I do not know what (and how I did it). Please help, I do not know what to do! I also have TickleServices installed, and during login I get several error messages from it. Göran Falkman P.S. I have a NeXTStation Color running NS 3.3 D.S. _______________________________________________________________________ Göran Falkman Tel: + 46 31 772 5412 Cognition Technology Group Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55 Department of Computing Science Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se Chalmers University of Technology WWW: http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~falkman/ S-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
From: giesen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Heinrich Giesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BibTeX - frontend available (new version1.1) Date: 24 Nov 1995 12:05:07 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <494cdj$9b2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Thank you for your wonderful comments about and suggestions for my application bibliography V 1.0, a bibtex - frontend. Today (fr. 24. Nov. 1995) I offer release 1.1 of Bibliography.app on our ftp - server ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/giesen as Bibliography.1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz with Bibliography.1.1.README The main difference to V 1.0 is the correction of some bugs. These bugs of V 1.0 are fixed: - The screen formatting and column placement in the inspector panel got screwed up when the panel was manually resized. - Once you closed the LaTeX window, it never reappeared (except you used the main menu: Preview -> PreviewWindow). - Difficulties with some characters (`_', `&' e.g.) used in the reference key. I only allowed those characters according to Lamport's Guide and Reference Manual: A key can be any sequence of letters, digits and punctuation characters, except that it may not contain a comma (,). As usual in LATEX, upper- and lowercase letters are considered different. In chapter 2.1 punctuation characters are declared as: . : ; , ? ! ` ' ( ) [ ] - / * @ But now I know that bibtex allows _all_ characters except whitespace and `,' and makes no difference between upper- and lowercase letters. So do I, let bibtex and LaTeX decide if the characters in the reference-key are valid or not. New facilities: + bibliography offers a service `Save to Bibdatabase' Selected text is sent to the app and is shown in a new window from which you can drag the text into a database file. + The text in the bib-file up to the first valid entry will be retained when saving the file. (useful for comments concerning the file) No further suggestions are implemented til now, I will do it the next weeks. Heinrich Giesen -------------- Prof. Dr. Heinrich Giesen | giesen@infko.uni-koblenz.de Universitaet Koblenz, | MIME / NeXTmail ok Institut fuer Informatik | Voice: +49 261 9119-416 Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany | Fax: +49 261 9119-497
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 24 Nov 1995 12:05:17 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <494cdt$62q@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> In article <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) writes: > In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, > Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: > >I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: > >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': > >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) > > (munch) > > You need to #include <varargs.h>. Why is it that when you include appkit, this seems to be defined, but as a function/macro that requires two parameters? Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: EIDE disk with 1.6GB, how? Date: 24 Nov 1995 18:33:31 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <49535r$7fv@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, I just bought my computer a new WD CAVIAR disk with 1.6GB. I connected it to the IDE bus, and the BIOS setup auto-detects it with the right cyl/head/sec and the full capacity. saved this to the BIOS setup. Next, i booted NS3.3 (from the other, old, IDE disk) and the EIDE driver sees my new hard disk as /dev/hd1a with the right capacity (1.6GB). NS comes up, sees that the disk is not initialized, i say "do so", but the capacity displayed is only 509MB! So I abort. I try BuildDisk.app instead, ah, the full capacity (15something MB) is displayed. It installs stuff (bare minimum, i don't want to boot from it later on anyway). I reboot, and: again, only 509MB for my new disk! Unfortunately my WWW connection from Germany to next.com is so bad that I can NOT search through nextanswers for hints. Could some kind soul please help me: what do i have to do to use the full disk space??? If I remember, the doc of the V3.31 EIDE driver said that the driver supports disks up to 8.4GB, so there should be no problem, I hope... Thanks a lot for any help, please mail directly to heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de because I will be away from my machine for the next week! -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: memory Exhausted Date: 24 Nov 1995 16:16:27 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <494r4r$kop@news.its.com> References: <48o718$ol1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote: > Hello all... after upgrading to the new 3.3 patches I've had > a bit of trouble with my Emacs application. I use Carl E.'s > most excellent port of 19.xx. The windowed version works just > as well as ever. However, now when I fire up emacs-nw in a terminal > window, I get a "memory exhausted" error. Many things do not work > properly in the terminal windowed version (sometimes I get thrown out > back to the shell). Did you recompile Emacs under 3.3 patched? Emacs dumps the raw executable image of itself after loading all of the basic LISP packages back to a file when it is being built. This process means that you must run Emacs with the same versions of the shared libraries and the same kernel image (/mach or /mach_kernel), or Emacs may crash in wonderful and mysterious ways. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ZSH for NeXT Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:02:00 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951124130031.6816D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <48iiso$jes@optical.fiber.net> <48ikvc$bmb@news.onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48ikvc$bmb@news.onramp.net> [sorry if this is a report, my modem connection died right as I went to send this, so I don't kow if it went out or not] you'll probably want to get the latest version from the ZSH homepage (http://math.gatech.edu or something close to it). just anothre ZSH convert, TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: moscow@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Terry Riley") Subject: UNIX/NeXT/SCO/FoxPro Message-ID: <DIKB72.AG0@cix.compulink.co.uk> Organization: Riley Varea Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 19:23:26 GMT Let me say to start with that I don't use any version of Unix, but have a client who thinks he may need to. Any help that you can offer would be most welcome. Situation: Client currently inputs data on his PC system and outputs data on a regular basis to his customers using a disk-based system, both using FoxPro for Windows. Client has gone a fair way along the road of negotiating for a permanent WebSite (in another's premises) to collect data from and output data to the Web. At this late stage he asks me if the data input/output programs (and the data) can be regularly transferred to/from the other site. No problem, I said, until I found out that they are running a UNIX O/S on NeXTStep (or is it a NeXTStep UNIX O/S?). Fine, I said, use FoxPro for UNIX SCO. Unfortunately, it seems that this particular flavour of UNIX won't mix with the current NeXT flavour. Solution being sought: Can anyone positively state that these two are incompatible, and if so, is there any workaround vis-a-vis databases for NeXT that are compatible in format (and hopefully similar in programming) to the xBase format of FoxPro. Alternatively, is there any conversion software around for this situation? Sorry if this message is a little unclear, but I'm lost! If any more info required, pls ask. PS - this will also be posted in one or two of the NeXT/Unix conferences/newsgroups - apologies in advance. Terry R
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: big EIDE-drive, solution Date: 24 Nov 1995 21:44:03 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <495eb3$geu@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> OK, with a lot of trial and error I came up with the following solution to making a WD CAVIAR disk with 1.6GB available to NS under a rather old (1992) AMIBIOS on a 486 intel machine: Despite the note in the EIDE V3.31 driver read-me, the BIOS settings for the drive *are* important. Since my BIOS did not like the 3148 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 spt (disk geometry) which is duely reported during NS bootup, I changed the BIOS settings to cyls787, heads 64, sect 63, which multiplies to exactly the same disk capacity (1.6GB), but with fewer cylinders (<=1024). Then I used BuildDisk again to reformat the drive (I stopped it after if had done that to avoid the lengthy install procees of unneeded software). In my /etc/fstab I added: /dev/hd1a /nextstep 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 rebooted eh voila: it works! I hope I did the right thing, any comments welcome! Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adaptec 2940UW Date: 24 Nov 1995 21:54:17 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <495eu9$1fi@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Is anybody using the Adaptec 2940UW with NS3.3? Since I still haven't been able to make my NCR card work, I've decided to buy and Adaptec controller. My question is can the Adaptec2940UW be used with the current driver? NeXTAnswers says the driver is going to be updated to support the UW controller, but does this mean the controller does not work at all, or just that all it's capabilites are not used? Thanks, David -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Font conversion problems (Fonts 4 NS - where?) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 23 Nov 1995 22:44:16 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <492tg0$eh5@redstone.interpath.net> References: <490bo1$32l@alf.uib.no> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : So - some questions: : 1. Where do NeXTsteppers buy fonts from and in what format? We now by Mac or PC fonts...and translate them into the NeXT format. : 2. Exist newer/better/working tools (free!) for font conversion Mac->NeXT? I know no reliable one for the Mac (free), however, if you can scrounge up a copy of MetroTools 2.x OR MacPFa to NeXT, or the Macromedia product "Fontgrapher 4.x" you can convert Type 1 PostScript Fonts over to NeXTSTEP format. With Fontographer, you can do Mac or PC-based Type 1, Type 3 or TrueType to NeXTSTEP. : 3. Same as 2 but for PC. Read #2 Dave
From: cnorton@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Future Domain SCSI Controller Date: 25 Nov 1995 03:46:22 GMT Organization: Primenet Message-ID: <4963ie$kg3@nnrp2.news.primenet.com> Has anyone used a future domain scsi controller 1610 model and a plextor 2X external drive to install NS on a IDE harddrive? Any tips are appreciated? Thanks, Chris
From: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: CDRom drive suggestions sought Date: 24 Nov 1995 18:26:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Message-ID: <4952p8$q57@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I have both a NeXT 040 and a Macintosh. Neither has a CDRom drive. My understanding is that some CD Drives built for the Mac will work on the NeXT as well, or rather I know that some Mac CD Drives have not worked when attached to NeXTs. If there is such an animal I would be interested in finding it. A CD drive that I could use on both machines would be a real boon. If you have any experience in making the same CD drive work on both machines please let me know. Any pointers towards specific models or manufacturers would be appreciated. -- "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ Colin Johnson | colinj@umich.edu | http://www.itd.umich.edu/~colinj/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.misc From: dgrisner@netcom.com (David G. Risner) Subject: NeXT <--> Linux Message-ID: <dgrisnerDICppG.5Kx@netcom.com> Organization: Southwestern University School of Law Library Distribution: global Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:56:04 GMT Sender: dgrisner@netcom8.netcom.com I want to be able to transfer files between my NeXT (Intel) and Linux machines on 3.5" floppies. Is there any way to do this other than TARrinG the files, saving to an MS-DOS formatted floppy, and then unTARing on the other end? I.e., is there a Unix disk format which is common to both? Thanks. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- David G. Risner Southwestern University dgrisner@netcom.com School of Law Library Los Angeles, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Font conversion problems (Fonts 4 NS - where?) Date: 25 Nov 1995 16:30:50 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <497gbq$6pc@gate.seicom.net> References: <490bo1$32l@alf.uib.no> <492tg0$eh5@redstone.interpath.net> paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) wrote: > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > : 2. Exist newer/better/working tools (free!) for font conversion Mac->NeXT? > I know no reliable one for the Mac (free), however, if you can scrounge > up a copy of MetroTools 2.x OR MacPFa to NeXT, or the Macromedia product > "Fontgrapher 4.x" you can convert Type 1 PostScript Fonts over to NeXTSTEP > format. With Fontographer, you can do Mac or PC-based Type 1, Type 3 or > TrueType to NeXTSTEP. You can give my FontConvert a try, for its price it does quite a good job converting Mac->NeXT and PFB->NeXT (say PFA). It is freeware and available on my home page in the Download Area or from the Peanuts archive. --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <49265n$m54@papoose.quick.com> Control: cancel <49265n$m54@papoose.quick.com> Date: 25 Nov 1995 12:38:45 -0500 Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc Message-ID: <497kb5$18l@papoose.quick.com> <49265n$m54@papoose.quick.com> was cancelled from within trn. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP - No console! Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 12:19:14 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951125121414.1419A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4941dk$57j@nyheter.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <4941dk$57j@nyheter.chalmers.se> I don't know what you could have done, check for the existence of=20 /dev/console. can anyone tell me why when I tried to READ this message (through PINE) it= =20 totally screwed up my telnet connection? All the characters were wrong,=20 most of them were ? but when I selected 'reply' without reading the=20 message first it came up fine (see below) Is this some non-standard character set maybe? In the header? I'm=20 guessing the poster's name does not have a pipe in it really. On 24 Nov 1995, G|ran Falkman wrote: > When I try to open the console in WM (using the tools menu) nothing happe= ns. > I guess I have accidently deleted something, but I do not know what (and = how=20 > I did it). Please help, I do not know what to do! >=20 > I also have TickleServices installed, and during login I get several erro= r=20 > messages from it. >=20 > G=F6ran Falkman >=20 > P.S. I have a NeXTStation Color running NS 3.3 D.S. > _______________________________________________________________________ > G=F6ran Falkman=09=09=09=09Tel: + 46 31 772 5412 > Cognition Technology Group=09=09Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55 > Department of Computing Science=09=09Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se=09 > Chalmers University of Technology=09WWW: =20 > http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~falkman/ > S-412 96 G=F6teborg, Sweden >=20 >=20 -- Timothy J. Luoma =20 luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bbsady@quads.uchicago.edu (bryce benjamin sady) Subject: Classical Greek for NeXT? Message-ID: <DIMEyu.D9A@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:40:06 GMT I would like to know where I can get, for NeXT, the complete font so that I can have accents on my Greek vowels, and breath marks on my aspirated consonants. Running NS 3.1 user on black machine. FTP would be great. bryce -- ____________________________________________________________ Bryce B. Sady bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady
From: root@frantziu.dialup.fu-berlin.de (Joerg von Frantzius) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: offline news writing? Date: 26 Nov 1995 00:24:58 GMT Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <498c4q$lmc@fu-berlin.de> After having installed CNews and retrieving news with slurp, I'd really like to know if it is possible to write news offline and spool them so that my articles are going to be transmitted when my machine is connected via SLIP (which it is not most of the time). I remember having browsed available docs without having found something like slurp is for retrieving news. Thanks for any help, Joerg.
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Subject: More postScript encoding questions... Date: 26 Nov 1995 02:47:23 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <498gvb$90a@alf.uib.no> Thanks for all the info about font conversion - the best thing I found was FontConvert, a free conversion tool with a bit of font-debugging capeabilities, very nice. I've been reading the tutorial/cookbook (Adobe) trying to find out the best way to get the few extra letters supported by PS but missing in NeXTs vision of standardEncoding... I've found many good tips, but have no idea how to make them work. I do notice that NeXTs fonts include several of these letters already (scaron, zcaron, eth, etc) encoded as .notdef (-1). However, NeXTs Keyboard.app (somehow) allows the use of these unencoded characters...! How is this done? Could I simply substitute (f.x.) zcaron for currency and have zcaron automatically useable at the same encoding vector as currency? What about non existant (but possible) lettters like ccaron or cacute - could I simply define them in the afm file and include a definition in the composites secition at the end of the afm file? How do the font files and afm files encodings interact - which takes precedence, and how does Keyboard.app manage to change this without changing the fonts? Lastly, it looks like program 18 in cookbook would work for me if I knew how to use it - I get the example to work but have no idea how to apply it to actually modify an installed font file to enable these extra letters. I know that there must be an elegant and simple way, but not enough to know what that is :-) Before you start sending RTFM type comments, I _have_ RTFM and all the on-line docs. That doesn't mean I understand them :-) BTW - there doesn't seem to be any table (3.3 Intel) in the on line docs describing NeXTs StandardEncoding. Keyboard.app has some info, unortunatley everything is in hexadecimal and Adobe font encoding vectors are in decimal... Where did I leave my calculator...? Please e-mail replies, when I _finally_ get this to work I'll make some nice flashy package/document explaining how to customize font encodings. With all the international NeXT users I'm surprised noone has done this before... Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: HELP - No console! In-Reply-To: falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se's message of 24 Nov 1995 08:57:24 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Nov26004301@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4941dk$57j@nyheter.chalmers.se> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:43:01 GMT You should also look at the permissions on /tmp/console.log Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4941dk$57j@nyheter.chalmers.se> Žfalkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45632 comp.sys.next.software:23738 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26728 Path: world!news.kei.com!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.chalmers.se!usenet From: Žfalkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 24 Nov 1995 08:57:24 GMT Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: hegel2.cs.chalmers.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) When I try to open the console in WM (using the tools menu) nothing happens. I guess I have accidently deleted something, but I do not know what (and how I did it). Please help, I do not know what to do! I also have TickleServices installed, and during login I get several error messages from it. Göran Falkman P.S. I have a NeXTStation Color running NS 3.3 D.S. _______________________________________________________________________ Göran Falkman Tel: + 46 31 772 5412 Cognition Technology Group Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55 Department of Computing Science Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se Chalmers University of Technology WWW: http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~falkman/ S-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: ajasvanu@ellis.uchicago.edu (Atip Asvanund) Subject: EIDE Driver for NEC 4X CDROM Message-ID: <DIn63x.BJz@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Networking Services Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 08:26:20 GMT Does anyone know if NeXTSTEP is coming out with EIDE Driver for NEC 4X CDROM drive? It's the NEC drive that comes with Dell Dimension Pentium series. Please reply via email Atip Asvanund
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: JOB: Allegheny College Director of Educational Computing - NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP environment Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:18:58 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951126021053.1566A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <49055g$5n1@digifix.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <49055g$5n1@digifix.digifix.com> I don't know how many people took notice of this, but as I just graduated from Allegheny College, I was excited to see it. (if you don't remember it, I included it below) Allegheny has a serious commitment to NeXTStep, with over 400 workstations devoted to NeXTStep. Classes are integrated with the network, professors write their own applications for their classes, and every entering student is given an account. I worked with them for 2 years as a user-assitant in the labs and was greatly pleased with all the people I came in contact with. If you are interested in a great NeXTStep-based network and an excellent group of co-workers, I'd strongly encourage you to contact Chuck Fleming at cfleming@alleg.edu to find out more about this newly created position. If you'd like to know more about Allegheny, I'd be more than happy to share more about it via email. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." On 22 Nov 1995, Chuck Fleming wrote: > > Allegheny College is beginning its search to fill the newly created, > full-time position of Director of Educational Computing. If you > are interested in shaping the future of educational computing in > one of the finest NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP academic computing environments, > please let me know and I'll be glad to e-mail you a copy of the > job description. > > Feel free to pass this note on to anyone you think might be interested > in this position. > > cfleming@alleg.edu > 814 332 2755 > NeXT Mail preferred > >
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to Print->save to file as B/W from colour orig? Date: 27 Nov 1995 02:06:13 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <49b2u5$2ai@alf.uib.no> This is fun, I'm having all sorts of problems I never dreamed of with my mono cube... I edit a european magazine, which is printed 600dpi laser and distributed. The pdf says Colour use = false, and in Frame I've set page setup _not_ to print in colour. In Virtuoso I can't find any colour/BW switch, but it _should_ find this info in the pdf file, no? (or is it ppd file...) Anyway, I save as PostScript file (Include fonts/PS for chosen printer, a HP 4 Si at 600dpi), no problems. When I preview (or look at the PS in Edit), there's colour! It eats up too much place (7MB vs 1.5MB for just the front page) and is not what I specified. Short of converting all of the tiffs once more (to BW - I'm sure there must be some app that does this...) how can I create a PS file tha does what I want and writes _BW_ data to disk from a _colour_ original file (it does work for NeXT 400dpi as default...) Please email replies - the magazine is finished and just waiting for me to figure out how to output it... Regarsd, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: samba source code needed Message-ID: <1995Nov26.234604.13611@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:46:04 GMT Could not find it with archie :-( Thank Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com> Newsgroups: us.jobs.offered,us.jobs.misc,ucb.jobs,pdaxs.jobs.computers,nyc.jobs.wanted,misc.job.offered,houston.jobs.offered,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.jobs.offered,chi.jobs,biz.next.newprod,biz.jobs Subject: Chicago & So. Cal: Nextstep Developers Date: Sun, 26 Nov 95 20:21:36 PDT Organization: MCSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.15027.817446317.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 10:45:57 PDT From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com> X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers Salary commenurate with experience, 40-100K Plus bonus. Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next development tools The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should have the following skills: 1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously 2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations 3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities Knowledge of one of the following: - Financial Derivatives Business - Currency Options Pricing - Risk Management - Interest Rate Derivatives Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc P-708.357.9400 F-708.357.9400
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 27 Nov 1995 05:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <49bhgt$a07@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 200+ ISV company pages - 400+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: bchs1k@menudo.uh.edu (Edward S. Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: inews on cube: bus error Date: 27 Nov 1995 12:28:42 -0600 Organization: /usr/local/news/organization Message-ID: <49d00q$uh@menudo.uh.edu> On a cube running 3.0, ethernet via ISDN, inews dies with a bus error, and core dumps. It worked fine with PPP and a modem. Any ideas? Thanks, Ed Chen -- "I think I'd like to play guitar, and be a Beatle. That'd be so swell."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: UNIX/NeXT/SCO/FoxPro Message-ID: <rfenney-271195140741@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <DIKB72.AG0@cix.compulink.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:09:06 GMT In article <DIKB72.AG0@cix.compulink.co.uk>, moscow@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Terry Riley") wrote: There are a number of ways to solve this problem. The easiest is to collect the data at the web server in ascii format and then to just import it into your xBase application. Alternatively, you could set up a second system running an Xbase application with a CGI written to access you database. What do you want to do? The answer to the problem is really no different just because the web server is running on NeXTSTEP, if anything it opens up more options! Robert
From: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for new telnet for NeXTStep Date: 28 Nov 1995 18:34:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Message-ID: <49fko2$f7d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I'm currently running NS 3.2 and I am frustrated by the fact that telnet will not read a .telnetrc file. Is there a newer or different telnet that will work on NS 3.2 that will read a .telnetrc file? -- "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ Colin Johnson | colinj@umich.edu | http://www.itd.umich.edu/~colinj/
From: Dazevedo@telepac.pt (D.Santos Azevedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ««««««« NeXT Mboards for sale ««««««« Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:10:41 GMT Organization: DSA, Serviços Message-ID: <49g4th$fs7@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 That equipement is still avaliable. Everything is in good conditions. Special prices and offers avaliable for special cases,(multiple buys) Equipment Model Serial/N Obs $$$(US) KEYBOARDS 192 AAE9307608 50 CUBE MBOARD 1698AE AAX0010252 MB30 500 AAX0011776 MB30 500 AAX0011803 MB30 500 CUBE PS 983 AAB001860 100 CUBE HD 380MB-xt-8380s OFO6128543 50 OEO6116912 50 OGO6142618 50 CUBE OD250MB AAD0002702 250 MEGA PIXEL 17 N4000A AAA7005432 250 N4000 AAA5006387 250 AAA5008319 250 MP COLOR 17 N4001 AN12103903 450 PRINTER N2000 AAC0002847 250 AAC0007766 250 MOUSES 193 AAF1934309 25 AAF0210060 25 AAF1322508 25 PLI-SCSI-2.88 10240 6Y31-1589BB 200 6Y31-1832BB 200 6Y31-1679BB 200 ND 1508AD PAL0010522 MB72 750 STATION CASES N1200 ABC0005916 COLOR 50 N1100 ABB0010052 MONO 50 ABB0025091 """" 50 ABB0011776 """" 50 STATION MBOARD 3011AF ACH0006641 MB30 500 1703AD ABE0011810 MB30 500 1703AE ABE0014747 MB30 500 1703AC ABE0010385 MB30 500 2106AA-COLOR ABD0011267 MB72 600 STATION PS AAY0000208 100 AAY0005671 100 AAY0041718 100 STATIONS FLPY AAV1001313 175 AAV1036544 175 AAV??????? 175 AAV1005456 175 FLPY DFN00293 3.5-1.44/5.25-1.2 175 Shiping not included Please if you see anything needed, contact me via e-mail.
From: <David W. Gotthold> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Need scsi advice quickly!!!! Date: 29 Nov 1995 01:31:03 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <49gd4n$gnb@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I need to buy a scsi controller by the end of the week. (My borrowed 2940 _has_ to go back.) Can the AHA-2940UW be used with the current beta (3.36) driver?? The notes say something about support in a future driver, but does this mean the card will not work, or just that it will run just like a regular 2940W. Alternately, does anyone know when a working driver will be released. I'm having trouble finding a normal 2940W, several places no longer carry it, and most of the rest are out of stock. Please help!!!! David -- David Gotthold University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center blumoose@mail.utexas.edu .................office (512) 471-5383 http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu .............fax (512) 471-8575
From: seh@seh.codem.com (Stephen E. Halpin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EIDE Driver for NEC 4X CDROM Date: 29 Nov 1995 00:11:08 GMT Organization: Remote Services Message-ID: <49g8es$1o3@regina.seh.codem.com> References: <DIn63x.BJz@midway.uchicago.edu> <49fe5h$l3o@digdug.pencom.com> In article <49fe5h$l3o@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com writes: >ajasvanu@ellis.uchicago.edu (Atip Asvanund) wrote: >: Does anyone know if NeXTSTEP is coming out with EIDE Driver for NEC 4X >: CDROM drive? It's the NEC drive that comes with Dell Dimension Pentium >: series. > >: Please reply via email > >I want to know too. Please post a response. We have 4 Dell systems here. 1 of >them came with a Mitsumi CDROM (4X) that works fine. The other three came with >NEC 4X CDs that work as long as the CD is in the drive -- but they hang >(immediately!) when the CD is ejected. Consequently, if you don't mount the >CDROM _permanently_, you can't use the machine (since it ejects the CD when you >log out). > >It won't boot unless there is a CD in the drive either.... > >What gives? I forget which standard defines how a CD-ROM device works on an IDE bus, but if its the same NEC OEM drive we got in some of our older 486 Dells, the drives explicitly do not conform to that standard. NECs stance is its an OEM drive and they are not responsible for it, and Dells position was that the PCs were sold as Windows 3.1 boxes, and they wont support anything other than that (we were trying to get NT running on it..) NEC has a history of not being SCSI compliant either (see the Solaris Compatability Guidelines..) Good luck... >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software >701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy >Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 >(512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 -Steve -- -------------------- "Sarcasm is wasted on you Pinky" -- Brain
From: zie@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Ziegler) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ROM-Monitor: How to calculate CHECKSUM? Date: 29 Nov 1995 13:02:16 GMT Organization: Technische Elektronik, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <49hlko$34i@rznews.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> NNTP-Posting-User: zie We have a cluster of serveral next stations (Black HW). Unfortunately I destroyed one of those EPROMs wich contains the boot-ROM. So I copied a ROM from one of the other stations. Unfortunately the hardware ethernet address is coded there. Due to possible network conflicts I had to change the ethernet address back to the original one. More unfortunataly there is also a 4 byte checksum which has to be changed too. Does anybody know how to calculate this checksum? Thanks in advance Thomas -- Thomas Ziegler, Lehrstuhl fuer Technische Elektronik (LTE), Uni Erlangen-Nuernberg, Cauerstr. 9, D-91580 Erlangen, Phone: +49 9131 85-7200, FAX +49 9131 302951
From: mjantti@aton.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New installation of TeX, trouble faxing from TeXview.app Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:02:42 GMT Organization: Abo Akademi University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Nov28220242@aton.abo.fi> hello -- after I installed the latest version of web2c (6.1) on my NS 3.2. running on Black hardware I have been unable to fax from TeXview.app. The program calls dvips which calls MakeTeXPK and METAFONT, which then outputs all the letters but says it fails to make the fonts. The problem, of course, would seem to be with MakeTeXPK or with the fonts sources. If anyone has a script which successfully creates the scripts, I'd be more than grateful to get them. -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-0-643 747 (Home/Voice) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office/Voice) 358-0-3489 233 (Home/Fax) | 358-21-2654 677 (Office/Fax)
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for new telnet for NeXTStep Date: 29 Nov 1995 15:17:02 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <49hthe$cgp@news.its.com> References: <49fko2$f7d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) wrote: > I'm currently running NS 3.2 and I am frustrated by the fact > that telnet will not read a .telnetrc file. Is there a newer or > different telnet that will work on NS 3.2 that will read a .telnetrc > file? Did you do a "chmod 600 ~/.telnetrc"? -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Next and Internet Message-ID: <1995Nov29.170725.45705@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 29 Nov 95 17:07:25 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland Has anyone got any experience configuring the Next with a modem for Internet usage via a provider (especially in Germany). I would prefer if anyone got a SLIP or PPP account for Telekom Online to work (there was something about this in the last C'T but only for OS/2 and some other systems, I did not manage to come through -- ************************************************************ Daniel Haas Universitaet Basel email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please) ************************************************************
From: degregor@badlands.nodak.edu (Brian J Degregorio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Date: 29 Nov 1995 19:18:10 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Eduation Network Message-ID: <49ibli$f60@daily-planet.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Has anyone been able to install NetBSD, Linux, or FreeBSD on a NeXT Workstation? If so how did you do it? Any help would be greatly apreciated. Thanks in advance. *********************************************************************** ** Brian Degregorio ** ** 3504 11th ave N apt #16 ** ** Grand Forks, ND 58203 ** ** Email: degregor@aero.und.nodak.edu ** ** Web: http://www.cs.und.nodak.edu/~degregor ** ***********************************************************************
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for new telnet for NeXTStep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 29 Nov 1995 21:26:29 GMT Organization: Viaduct, Inc. Message-ID: <49ij65$qdq@news4.digex.net> References: <49fko2$f7d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Colin Eric Johnson (colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu) wrote: # I'm currently running NS 3.2 and I am frustrated by the fact # that telnet will not read a .telnetrc file. Is there a newer or # different telnet that will work on NS 3.2 that will read a .telnetrc # file? Yes. Get the version off of ftp.cray.com. Compiles without issue. </eal> -- Eric A. Litman Internet Technology vox: 301.493.0220 elitman@nxstep.com and Marketing Consulting pag: 800.570.4400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Does Academic Bundle include EOF? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DItp9M.3rA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:05:46 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I don't remember seeing this anywhere...does the 3.3 bundle come with EOF? Still deciding whether to get 3.3 now or 4.0 later........ -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DItpqG.GDt@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:15:52 GMT References: <49ibli$f60@daily-planet.nodak.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <49ibli$f60@daily-planet.nodak.edu>, Brian J Degregorio <degregor@badlands.nodak.edu> wrote: > > >-- > > Has anyone been able to install NetBSD, Linux, or FreeBSD on >a NeXT Workstation? If so how did you do it? Any help would be greatly >apreciated. Thanks in advance. > No one has ever done a port, as far as I know. People seem happy with NeXTSTEP. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: zyxt@ix.netcom.com (Joe Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) Date: 30 Nov 1995 03:48:45 GMT Organization: Inc, Inc. Message-ID: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 here's my situation: i was just given a Next workstation by an uncle of mine. it's a very basic one, 8megs of ram and only a 100meg hard drive (ack!). well, in addition to the computer, he gave me the laser printer that goes with it. so here i am, thrust into the middle of this whole world of NeXT computers, with almost no knowledge at all of what the heck is going on! i'm _very_ familiar with PC's, and all their hardware and software, but i'm only somewhat familiar with UNIX, and the Next OS is completely new to me. but here's what i would like to do: since i now have this laser printer, is it possible for me to somehow network my win95 machine with my Next machine, so i can use the laser printer on my Next with my win95 machine. thus, using my Next as a print-server, sort of. I have an ethernet card in my PC, and i have connected it's BNC connector to the one on the Next. I have been told that the Next uses TCP/IP as its protocol. My main questions are these: 1) how should i set up win95 to work with the Next? Thus far, i've been completely unable to make them talk to each other. I'm just not familiar enough with network software, i suppose. 2) once i get them talking to each other (if i manage that), how can i get win95 to acknowledge the laser printer on the Next? as of yet, the Next itself keeps telling me that the printer is not connected, even when it is. so, i'm not sure what to do there. there's no toner cartridge in the printer, but i figured it would recognize the printer anyway, and just tell me what was wrong. oh well. if there is a FAQ i can refer to, please point me in the right direction. Any help anyone can afford me will be greatly appreciated! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe zyxt@ix.netcom.com
From: marlow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does Academic Bundle include EOF? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:40:11 GMT Organization: Black Fish Soft Message-ID: <49jtvd$k7l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <DItp9M.3rA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > I don't remember seeing this anywhere...does the 3.3 bundle come with EOF? > Still deciding whether to get 3.3 now or 4.0 later........ Yes it comes with EOF with the one I got in the US... UBC is selling 3.3 for 439 academic... I rather go with Object Techs 299 deal.. Cheers, Godwin #include <Standard_Disclamer_Blah_Blah_Blah.h> Godwin Membership Affairs Chair of Vancouver Regional Freenet. Chair, Sierra Club (BC) OnLine Services Commitee. It's funny how we feel so much.... cannot say a word... We are screaming inside and can't be heard. - Sarah McLachlan
From: rufus@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Sven Lehmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUBMISSION: Zoom 3.0 - Quad Fat Raster-Graphics Scaler Date: 30 Nov 1995 13:22:03 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <49kb5r$cld@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> I just submitted a quad-fat version 3.0 of Zoom.app to: ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/apps/Zoom.3.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/apps/Zoom.3.0.README ZOOM 3.0 ======== Purpose ------- Zoom is an application to scale raster-graphics. Zoom can work together with a variety of graphic formats depending on what other software you have installed (see the README file). In contrast to the NeXT system immanent scaling algorithm Zoom results in high quality scaled graphics. For comparison try the famous zoneplate graphic. As an add on you can take out parts of the graphics with the rubber band technique and can convert high bit pictures to lower bit one. Summary ------- Version: 3.0 Application Type: Raster-Graphics Scaler Supported Architectures: Motorola 68K, Intel 486, HP/PA, SPARC Supported File Types: .tiff, (a lot more if ImageView/OmniFilter available) System Requirements: 3.1 or above (tested using 3.3) License ------- This is PublicDomain. If you like it feel free to contact me: rufus@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (NeXT/MIME/PLAIN: ok) The Author --------- Sven Lehmann studies applied computer science at the University of Koblenz since 1989. He has been programming with NeXTSTEP since 1992.
From: Colin Eric Johnson <colinj@us.itd.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for new telnet for NeXTStep Date: 30 Nov 1995 17:33:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Message-ID: <49kpts$em5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <49fko2$f7d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <49hthe$cgp@news.its.com> Originator: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu In article <49hthe$cgp@news.its.com>, Chuck Swiger <chuck@its.com> wrote: >colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) wrote: >> I'm currently running NS 3.2 and I am frustrated by the fact >> that telnet will not read a .telnetrc file. Is there a newer or >> different telnet that will work on NS 3.2 that will read a .telnetrc >> file? > >Did you do a "chmod 600 ~/.telnetrc"? Sadly the telnet that ships with NS 3.2 has no ability to read a .telnetrc file at all. thus my frustration. They were kind enough to list it as a bug in the man page: BUGS There is no adequate way for dealing with flow control. On some remote systems, echo has to be turned off manually when in "line by line" mode. There is enough settable state to justify a .telnetrc file. No capability for a .telnetrc file is provided. -- "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ Colin Johnson | colinj@umich.edu | http://www.itd.umich.edu/~colinj/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cp/mv to dos diskette Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:21:06 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130101644.14273A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From time to time I have to copy or move files to diskette. Doing so from the commandline gives this error message: "Invalid argument" and this error message in the console.log: "dos_setattr: INVALID OP" Doing the same thing from the Workspace results in no such error messages. There doesn't seem to be any problems with the files being moved (no corruption of data or anything like that) but something isn't right because I'm getting these messages, right? Any clues? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: Michael Ellis <michael@anest4.anest.ufl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: CDRom drive suggestions sought Date: 30 Nov 1995 19:03:20 GMT Organization: University Of Florida Message-ID: <49kv5p$q6r@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <4952p8$q57@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) wrote: > I have both a NeXT 040 and a Macintosh. Neither has a CDRom >drive. My understanding is that some CD Drives built for the Mac will >work on the NeXT as well, or rather I know that some Mac CD Drives >have not worked when attached to NeXTs. If there is such an animal I >would be interested in finding it. A CD drive that I could use on both >machines would be a real boon. > I use an Apple CD 300e external, double speed CD-ROM and it works great. Even better news is that you can get refurbished Apple CD-ROMs for about $120 and that includes a 90-day warranty. -Michael Ellis
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: where is this message coming from? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:30:53 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: nwc@wsc.com (Nick Christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Date: 30 Nov 1995 15:21:19 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <49ibli$f60@daily-planet.nodak.edu> I think there was a Minix port.....*LOL*
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: 30 Nov 1995 22:18:24 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <49lajg$ol1@paladin.american.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: : :I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I :checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run :at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? : Posting the message would help along with OS version, hardware, etc. -- Torrey McMahon
From: cortesr@alleg.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing finger Information Date: 1 Dec 1995 02:05:31 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <49lntb$30f@speering.alleg.edu> References: <48vsni$ouf@mark.ucdavis.edu> Netinfo does not have the capability to do this yet. What this means is that the developers at NeXT have not included this as part of their environment yet. I have been able to do passwd -f on a Sparc running NIS. Ricardo root@asylum.ucdavis.edu (Operator) wrote: :-> Has anyone tried to change the finger info using passwd -f? :-> When I try this I get this response: :-> :-> Cannot change finger information or shell with NetInfo (yet). :-> :-> :-> any clues? :-> thanks :-> -- Ricardo Cortes Allegheny College cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK) http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: First known bug in Fiend1.4 (+workaround) Date: 30 Nov 1995 22:01:07 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <49lr5j$k2i@panix.com> Okay, well, the first silly-ass bug introduced in the release version of Fiend has been reported by Leif Smith. Launching and reactivating apps from the Fiend Shelf no longer works as it's supposed to. There are two workarounds: 1. Launch apps from the Fiend Dock, not the Fiend Shelf (only half-kidding); 2. Alt-double-click the icon on the Fiend Shelf to launch. This of course has the drawback that a second alt-double-click will launch another copy of the app, instead of re-activating it. It's quite likely that I will put out a maintenance release to fix this problem in the next several days, so if you see any other such nonsense, please report it. -- David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ngreene@locws140049.shl.com (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Message-ID: <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> Sender: usenet@shlnews.shl.com (shlnews news) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:53:35 GMT "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: >I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I >checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run >at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? Ummmm. What was the message?? -- Neil Greene Senior Oracle DBA / Unix System Administrator SHL Systemhouse, Inc. LA Outsourcing Center <HREF=mailto:ngreene@shl.com>
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) Date: 1 Dec 1995 06:19:52 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto Message-ID: <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> In article <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, zyxt@ix.netcom.com (Joe Reiter) wrote: [ ] > My main questions are these: > >1) how should i set up win95 to work with the Next? Thus far, i've been >completely unable to make them talk to each other. I'm just not familiar >enough with network software, i suppose. > >2) once i get them talking to each other (if i manage that), how can i get >win95 to acknowledge the laser printer on the Next? as of yet, the Next >itself keeps telling me that the printer is not connected, even when it is. >so, i'm not sure what to do there. there's no toner cartridge in the printer, >but i figured it would recognize the printer anyway, and just tell me what was >wrong. oh well. First get the two systems connected via Ethernet, and get the printer working on the NeXT at least! Then buy FTP's InterDrive 95 sw for win95. This is an NFS client which will also allow you to print to the NeXT printer either via the usual lpr/lpd or if you manage to get the printer treated as an "NFS printer"...There's a lot of free software for ftp'ing between the NeXT and win95, but printing is another issue. You need to run pcnsfd on the NeXT (comes with the OS or you can get it for free). When you set up the printer make it remote. ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: Gianfranco Pra Florian <gian@dedalus.ecs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 29 Nov 1995 18:31:05 GMT Organization: Dedalus Dolomiti Message-ID: <49i8t9$23d@ecs.net> References: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: >I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) (munch) You need to #include <varargs.h>. Naah! I have the same problem on my cube (running version 3.0 of NeXTStep). I have tried all the things, including the "#include <varargs.h>, but with no results. This is the message I get: va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) expression statement has incomplete type Help!! thank you
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 23:50:44 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Neil Greene wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: > > > >I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I > >checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run > >at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? > > Ummmm. What was the message?? I was afraid you'd ask that. It's really weird. It says: "this one" (without the quotes). Yeah, just "this one". Every day at 2:30am. It isn't a real problem (I hope I didn't make it sound too serious) but more of an accoyance (I can't figure out where it is coming from). NeXTStation running NeXTstep 3.2 User & Dev TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does Academic Bundle include EOF? Date: 1 Dec 1995 09:42:32 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <49mim8$hid@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <DItp9M.3rA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <DItp9M.3rA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > I don't remember seeing this anywhere...does the 3.3 bundle come > with EOF? Still deciding whether to get 3.3 now or 4.0 > later........ It does, don't wait! Dave
From: davisre@shellx.best.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: 1 Dec 1995 02:43:51 -0800 Organization: floam Message-ID: <49mm97$lkb@shellx.best.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > >> >I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I >> >checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run >> >at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? >> Unless you've modified the default crontab, atrun runs at 2:30am every day (plus lots of other times). Check the at queue. (Type atq at a shell prompt.) Maybe at is running a script. Although any output from an at job would usually be mailed to the user, it's possible to put it somewhere else. Also check to see what processes are running -- you could set up a crontab entry to do ps's at strategic times. You may not catch it if the culprit doesn't live long, but it's worth a try. Rob -- Robert Davis (davis@lighthouse.com, davis@coaster.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 1 Dec 1995 08:01:35 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <49mubf$a68@papoose.quick.com> References: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> <49i8t9$23d@ecs.net> In article <49i8t9$23d@ecs.net>, Gianfranco Pra Florian <gian@dedalus.ecs.net> wrote: >In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, >Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: >>I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: > >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': > >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) > >You need to #include <varargs.h>. > >Naah! >I have the same problem on my cube (running version 3.0 of NeXTStep). >I have tried all the things, including the "#include <varargs.h>, but >with no results. Sorry for the mis-direction. I downloaded a copy of the code to look, and the problem is that the code is incorrectly ifdef'ed to support both the old and new style of variable arg lists. As a result it's mixing its metaphors in a non-portable fashion. In your case, you have ANSI_C defined at compile time, and the resulting code still (in error) refers to the va_alist argument which is defined in varargs.h. The cheapest fix is to include varargs.h, then subsequently do an '#undef ANSI_C'. This will let you compile that source file. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling gcc-2.7.2 for NSFIP Date: 1 Dec 1995 16:31:07 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <49nakb$kr2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Before I started my attempt at compiling gcc, I thought I'd ask and find out how painless the build was. Anybody out there have any experiences they'd like to share? Is it as painless as building for black? On my black hardware, ./configure --build=m68k-next-nextstep3 sets it up so that gcc compiles out of the box. Will ./configure --build=i586-next-nextstep3 be as painless? Many thanks Eugene Mah -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: 1 Dec 1995 18:16:34 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <49ngq2$o0k@paladin.american.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: :I was afraid you'd ask that. It's really weird. It says: :"this one" (without the quotes). Have you looked in the associated files crontab references? My crontab entries, for the most part, all run a file in /usr/adm. That could be it. Or perhaps your NeXTStation was deemed the Messiah when it was created. What could be better then that at during this lovely Christmas season..... -- Torrey McMahon
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing finger Information Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:44:21 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951201154035.369B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <48vsni$ouf@mark.ucdavis.edu> <49lntb$30f@speering.alleg.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <49lntb$30f@speering.alleg.edu> The only way to change the finger information is using 'nu -m' as root. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." On 1 Dec 1995 cortesr@alleg.edu wrote: > Netinfo does not have the capability to do this yet. What this means is that > the developers at NeXT have not included this as part of their environment > yet. > > I have been able to do passwd -f on a Sparc running NIS. > > > root@asylum.ucdavis.edu (Operator) wrote: > :-> Has anyone tried to change the finger info using passwd -f? > :-> When I try this I get this response: > :-> > :-> Cannot change finger information or shell with NetInfo (yet). > :-> > :-> > :-> any clues? > :-> thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ngreene@locws140049.shl.com (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Message-ID: <ngreene.817870257@houws001.shl.com> Sender: usenet@shlnews.shl.com (shlnews news) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:10:57 GMT "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: >On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Neil Greene wrote: >> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: >> >> >> >I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I >> >checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run >> >at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? >> >> Ummmm. What was the message?? >I was afraid you'd ask that. It's really weird. It says: >"this one" (without the quotes). >Yeah, just "this one". Every day at 2:30am. It isn't a real problem (I >hope I didn't make it sound too serious) but more of an accoyance (I >can't figure out where it is coming from). >NeXTStation running NeXTstep 3.2 User & Dev Maybe it isn't something from cron, maybe it is an app that you have running that is writting something to /dev/console?? What apps do you have running when this message appears?? -- Neil Greene Senior Oracle DBA / Unix System Administrator SHL Systemhouse, Inc. LA Outsourcing Center <HREF=mailto:ngreene@shl.com> -- Neil Greene Senior Oracle DBA / Unix System Administrator SHL Systemhouse, Inc. LA Outsourcing Center <HREF=mailto:ngreene@shl.com>
From: svail@next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Date: 2 Dec 1995 04:17:06 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com> References: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> In article <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> nwc@wsc.com (Nick Christopher) writes: > I think there was a Minix port.....*LOL* There was also a Plan 9 port. --Scott -- This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want.
From: feanor@s31.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Jani Fikouras) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: NeXT <--> Linux Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Date: 30 Nov 1995 16:12:16 GMT Organization: Universitaet Bremen Distribution: global Message-ID: <49kl50$hi1@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de> References: <dgrisnerDICppG.5Kx@netcom.com> David G. Risner (dgrisner@netcom.com) wrote: : I want to be able to transfer files between my NeXT (Intel) and Linux : machines on 3.5" floppies. Is there any way to do this other than : TARrinG the files, saving to an MS-DOS formatted floppy, and then unTARing : on the other end? : I.e., is there a Unix disk format which is common to both? Skip the MSDOS filesystem, as a matter of fact skip every filesystem, just tar the stuff directly to the device. GNUtar supports multi-volume archives, that makes it even easier. gtar czMvf /dev/fd0 <stuff> -- GCS d s+: p1 a-->? C++++ UASL$+++>++++ L+++ E--- W+ N+ w(--) M-- !V(--) PS+ PE Y+ PGP-- t++@ 5++ X+ R+++ tv++ b++ G+++ e++ h+(*) r I've been asked if vi was an easy editor to learn, whether it was intuitive or not. My general response to this question is: "Yes, some of us think so. But most people think that we are crazy."
From: gian@dedalus.ecs.net (gian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 2 Dec 1995 11:17:31 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <49pckb$omh@ecs.net> References: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> In article <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com>, jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) says: > >In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, >Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: >>I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: > >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': > >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) > >(munch) > >You need to #include <varargs.h>. Hello. this is Gian, I'm trying to install ELM on a black machine running NeXTStep 3.0. I already tried to include <varagrs.h>, but the problem remains. What to do ? It's seems like there are problems with ANSI C compatibility. The preprocessed code includes everything but the famous "va_alist" declaration. Any suggesstions ? please email also to gian@dedalus.ecs.net Thank you.
From: gian@dedalus.ecs.net (gian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Compiling elm2.4 on NeXTStep 3.3 problem Date: 2 Dec 1995 15:43:39 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <49ps7b$ho@ecs.net> References: <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu> <4922ni$lt1@papoose.quick.com> <49i8t9$23d@ecs.net> <49mubf$a68@papoose.quick.com> In article <49mubf$a68@papoose.quick.com>, jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) says: > >In article <49i8t9$23d@ecs.net>, >Gianfranco Pra Florian <gian@dedalus.ecs.net> wrote: >>In article <48vd11$k8t@pearl.whoi.edu>, >>Peter Schmitt <pete@voyager.whoi.edu> wrote: >>>I get the following when attempting to compile elm on my cube: >> >mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': >> >mcprt.c:65: `va_alist' undeclared (first use this function) >> >>You need to #include <varargs.h>. >> >>Naah! >>I have the same problem on my cube (running version 3.0 of NeXTStep). >>I have tried all the things, including the "#include <varargs.h>, but >>with no results. > >Sorry for the mis-direction. I downloaded a copy of the code to >look, and the problem is that the code is incorrectly ifdef'ed >to support both the old and new style of variable arg lists. >As a result it's mixing its metaphors in a non-portable fashion. > >In your case, you have ANSI_C defined at compile time, and the >resulting code still (in error) refers to the va_alist argument >which is defined in varargs.h. > >The cheapest fix is to include varargs.h, then subsequently >do an '#undef ANSI_C'. This will let you compile that source >file. > OK. Tried but still not working! This is the error message i get now: mcprt.c: In function `MCprintf': mcprt.c:60: number of arguments doesn't match prototype My mcprt.c looks like this: #include <stdio.h> #include <varargs.h> // this is the line added before #include "defs.h" #undef ANSI_C // this is the line I added now #include "mcprt.h" #include "mcprtlib.h" #ifdef ANSI_C int MCprintf(char *fmt, ...) #else int MCprintf(fmt, va_alist) char *fmt; va_dcl #endif (...) HELP!!!!!!! Thank you. gian@dedalus.ecs.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Message-ID: <jpanicoDIyzzM.2u8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:45:22 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom14.netcom.com Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote: : On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Neil Greene wrote: : I was afraid you'd ask that. It's really weird. It says: : "this one" (without the quotes). Sounds like you need an exorcists, not technical advice. : TjL : -- : Timothy J. Luoma : luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) : 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) : "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." -- Joe Panico NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer BLaCKSMITH Inc. jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: bmoore@neonramp.com (Bill Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.windows.misc Subject: UNIX/WindowsNT Jobs Available US Midwest Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:37:17 +0200 Organization: Digital Revolution Message-ID: <bmoore-0112951537170001@neon125b.neonramp.com> The good folks at AIM asked me to post their press release to some suitable IT type newsgroups. Being only Mac-literate, I apologize if this posting isn't relevant to this group of lists. Send any flames to Kandace Bragg :-) Seriously, Omaha has a real need for some 2000 qualified programmers/analysts/engineers/sysops and AIM's CareerLink WWW is a good place to start if you're job hunting and wanting to find a little less stressful environment in which to raise a family. That's why I moved here 15 years ago and I haven't regretted it. Anyway, check out CareerLink. Bill Moore, Editor MacWare Revue ====================================================================== For Immediate Release: 1Dec95 Contact Person: Kandace Bragg (402) 422-3194 <a href="http://www.omaha.org/careerlink.html">Omaha CareerLink</a> World-wide Web site has 100¹s of information technology/programming positions available in Omaha, Nebraska. Job seekers using Web browsers with forms capability can now submit their personal resumes to the CareerLink database for FREE. Employers offering openings include major transportation firms, insurance companies, banks, data processors and software development companies. Positions range from entry-level to senior engineers with salaries offered between $30k and $90k/year. Internships for college students are also posted on the system. CareerLink welcomes qualified non-US applicants wishing to relocate to the USA to submit their resumes either via CareerLink, email, fax or surface mail. For more information send email to kbragg@omaha.org CareerLink is a service of the Applied Information Management (AIM) Institute, a Nebraska-based non-profit organization sponsored by state, local, business and academic institutions. The goal of AIM and CareerLink is to promote economic development in Omaha and the state of Nebraska. The CareerLink site also offers comprehensive information about Omaha, as well as information about various AIM programs. A directory of Nebraska Technology companies is also available on the site. To submit your resume by FAX call (402) 422-3693. MAIL: AIM Institute, 1314 Douglas-on-the-Mall, Omaha, NE 68102, Attn: K.Bragg. -- Bill Moore Internet Publishing & Design Editor, Sr. Partner Digital Revolution Publishers of MacWare Revue 399 N 117th,Suite 301 http://www.piazza.com Omaha, NE 68154 MacO/S Freeware/Shareware Reviews <a href="www.piazza.com">MacWare Revue</a>
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple SCSI adapters possible? Date: 2 Dec 1995 21:25:09 GMT Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Message-ID: <49qg7l$1sck@news.gate.net> I'm trying to get NS/i 3.3 to recognize both my Adaptec 2940 and my 1542CF. NS has no problem seeing the 2940. I have both controllers working fine under DOS/Windows. The only device attached to the 1542CF is an NEC3Xe cdrom drive so thus the 1542CF BIOS doesn't load. NEC drives don't seem to like the 2940 thus the need for the 1542. I don't see why this configuration shouldn't work. Any pointers? -jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kkyip@hkusua.hku.hk (Yip Kwok Kuen) Subject: NEXTSTEP install problem Message-ID: <DIzquG.Kyr@hkuxb.hku.hk> Sender: usenet@hkuxb.hku.hk (USENET News System) Organization: The University of Hong Kong Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 03:25:27 GMT I got the following message when installing NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel PC: " ...media error block 99243... (: I can't remember the exact number) ... ...fatal error ...CD-ROM boot process complete." Is this due to a faulty media, i.e. the CDROM, or because of the Matrox Impression Plus display card, which is the only incompatible hardware in my system? Anyone encounters similar problem or knows the answer please help. Thanks in advance. Kevin Yip.
From: John Thierry <john_fla@shadow.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 19:46:57 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <30C0F381.4190@shadow.net> References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, it's not. Nxfax only supports Class 2 fax/modems. (Not Class 1 or class 2.0. And call the Nxfax people on the 2/2.0 issue just to be sure. I abandoned Next because of the $$$$$$$$$.) US Robotics, Motorola & Hayes will not fax. You can call them on the phone (don't have the # handy...) They can only guarantee success w/14.4Kbaud fax/modems. But the person I spoke with felt that 28.8's from Practical Peripherals, Supra, Zoom, and Boca _should_ work ok. Nxfax also resells Zyzel (sp?) fax modems (-->28.8 I think.) But these puppies are $$$ (like everything commercial for Next...)
From: John Thierry <john_fla@shadow.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multi-track Audio Software Needed Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 19:58:18 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <30C0F62A.9DF@shadow.net> References: <4799tm$b3q@netnews.upenn.edu> <47b3db$kkp@netnews.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there is an app at MIT's music school (not sure of the url---start w/mit's www site.) There is also supposed to be something out at Stanford (Music Kit, I think.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr) Subject: Re: First known bug in Fiend1.4 (+workaround) Message-ID: <DIyBAF.DA@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte References: <49lr5j$k2i@panix.com> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 08:51:50 GMT > There are two workarounds: > > 1. Launch apps from the Fiend Dock, not the Fiend Shelf > (only half-kidding); > > 2. Alt-double-click the icon on the Fiend Shelf to launch. > This of course has the drawback that a second alt-double-click > will launch another copy of the app, instead of re-activating > it. > > It's quite likely that I will put out a maintenance release > to fix this problem in the next several days, so if you > see any other such nonsense, please report it. > > -- > David C. Lambert > dcl@panix.com > (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) > (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48") Hey David, it would be great having the possibility for colouring the the dock and shelf icons and the text below the shelf icons too. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Manfred Roehr Elisabethstrasse 88 24143 Kiel Germany ----------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de FAX: +49 431 733 483 PHONE: +49 431 73 45 39
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI adapters possible? Date: 3 Dec 1995 08:37:03 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <49qg7l$1sck@news.gate.net> doroin@cobber.cord.edu wrote: > I'm trying to get NS/i 3.3 to recognize both my Adaptec 2940 and my 1542CF. > NS has no problem seeing the 2940. I have both controllers working fine > under DOS/Windows. > > The only device attached to the 1542CF is an NEC3Xe cdrom drive so thus the > 1542CF BIOS doesn't load. NEC drives don't seem to like the 2940 thus the > need for the 1542. NeXTSTEP supports multiple SCSI adapters only with the SymbiosLogic53C8xxSCSIDriver (NCR8xx). - Karsten --- Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI adapters possible? Date: 3 Dec 1995 14:30:39 GMT Organization: University of Arizona Mathematics Department Message-ID: <49scaf$9tk@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> References: <49qg7l$1sck@news.gate.net> <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Karsten Heinze wrote: > > NeXTSTEP supports multiple SCSI adapters only with the > SymbiosLogic53C8xxSCSIDriver (NCR8xx). > > - Karsten This is not correct. I have Adaptec 2742AT (2 HDs) and 1542cf (Toshiba CD-ROM) both in my computer, and NeXTSTEP 3.3 has no trouble to access them. Yuwen Cheng yucheng@math.arizona.edu -
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Control: cancel <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: 3 Dec 1995 15:19:53 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <49sf6p$s6j@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> cancel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and NeXT hardware In-Reply-To: John Thierry's message of Sat, 02 Dec 1995 19:46:57 -0500 Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec3221504@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> <30C0F381.4190@shadow.net> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 03:15:04 GMT I use a Practical Peripherals with NXFax, ppp, kermit, SerialPortKit, etc.. and it works flawlessly. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <30C0F381.4190@shadow.net> John Thierry <john_fla@shadow.net> writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45705 Path: world!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.shadow.net!news From: John Thierry <john_fla@shadow.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 19:46:57 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Lines: 16 References: <46hb55$3vi@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <DHDnrM.83@arzana.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-orl-13.shadow.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) No, it's not. Nxfax only supports Class 2 fax/modems. (Not Class 1 or class 2.0. And call the Nxfax people on the 2/2.0 issue just to be sure. I abandoned Next because of the $$$$$$$$$.) US Robotics, Motorola & Hayes will not fax. You can call them on the phone (don't have the # handy...) They can only guarantee success w/14.4Kbaud fax/modems. But the person I spoke with felt that 28.8's from Practical Peripherals, Supra, Zoom, and Boca _should_ work ok. Nxfax also resells Zyzel (sp?) fax modems (-->28.8 I think.) But these puppies are $$$ (like everything commercial for Next...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: eric@mag.keio.ac.jp (Eric Lyon) Subject: Yet another modem question Message-ID: <1995Dec4.032021.26534@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Sender: news@sfc.keio.ac.jp Organization: Keio University Media & Governance Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 03:20:21 GMT I'm looking for some help to get a modem working with NSFIP. It's a Micro Core 14400 bps. I've tested it on three systems running the same OS - NS 3.2J using kermit.486. Two are Pentium PCs and one is a Canon Nextstation. On one of the PCs - the connection to the modem works correctly. On the Canon and the other PC, I get the same problem: The modem's receive light goes on, but the kermit terminal locks up. The light stays on until I kill the terminal window. There's a lot more information I could provide, but I'm not yet sure what is relevant to the problem. The config files for serial port, and the /etc/remote, /etc/ttys files are identical among the systems. Suggestions? Thanks, Eric Lyon eric@cmlab.sfc.keio.ac.jp
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 4 Dec 1995 05:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <49u04u$i1l@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: zan660@aol.com (Zan660) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep PPC port????? Date: 4 Dec 1995 00:27:14 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49u0ri$6u3@newsbf02.news.aol.com> I have a 040 Mac, but plan to get a CHRP system when they come out, the CHRPs will run NT, Mac, AIX, and a whole bunch of other OSs. Is there a chance that NeXTStep will port to Apple's CHRP platform or IBMs common hardware platform? Email please.
From: schurch@pixelhut.com (Sean Church) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) Date: 4 Dec 1995 07:22:38 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> In <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Philip McDunnough wrote: > In article <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, > zyxt@ix.netcom.com (Joe Reiter) wrote: > > [ ] > > My main questions are these: > > > >1) how should i set up win95 to work with the Next? Thus far, i've been > >completely unable to make them talk to each other. I'm just not familiar > >enough with network software, i suppose. > > > >2) once i get them talking to each other (if i manage that), how can i get > >win95 to acknowledge the laser printer on the Next? as of yet, the Next > >itself keeps telling me that the printer is not connected, even when it is. > >so, i'm not sure what to do there. there's no toner cartridge in the > printer, > >but i figured it would recognize the printer anyway, and just tell me what > was > >wrong. oh well. > > First get the two systems connected via Ethernet, and get the printer working > on the NeXT at least! Then buy FTP's InterDrive 95 sw for win95. This is an > NFS client which will also allow you to print to the NeXT printer either via > the usual lpr/lpd or if you manage to get the printer treated as an "NFS > printer"...There's a lot of free software for ftp'ing between the NeXT and > win95, but printing is another issue. > > You need to run pcnsfd on the NeXT (comes with the OS or you can get it for > free). When you set up the printer make it remote. > > Wollongong has an LPR/ LPD redirector that works over TCP/IP, for Win '95 (and the bunch of windows OS's). (Print through FTP's loaf NFS product? Gods... that sounds like convoluted pain and network overhead nightmares... like NFS mount timeouts and what not).
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is the "File exists" thing when removing EMPTY dirs ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mext.software Date: 04 Dec 1995 12:58:52 +0100 Organization: Apatheia Corp. Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de Distribution: world Message-ID: <x7ivjx82gz.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, I always have the following problem on my NeXTfIP 3.3: when I try to remove an empty directory from the shell: rmdir foo/ I always get the error message File exists, although there definitly is none in the directory. When I try rmdir foo without the end-backslash, this problem doesn't occur. It seems that this problem intervenes also during compilation when in the make install part intermediate dirs are created which often fails on my computer , with exactly the error message "File exists". Does anyone know what is going on here ? Thanks Gerald. ----------------------------------- Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage NeXTmail (and MIME) welcome -- ----------------------------------- Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage NeXTmail (and MIME) welcome
From: senip@j51.com (The Tick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel NS on a secondary hard drive? Date: 4 Dec 1995 04:00:56 GMT Organization: TZ-LINK Message-ID: <slrn4c4sif.85f.senip@j51.com> I'm having trouble getting NS to work on the second IDE hard drive of my machine. It installs ok, (3.3 btw), and tells me I have to boot. Still using the boot disk, I reboot and type hd(1)mach_kernel at the boot: prompt and it starts the bootup process. Everything goes ok UNTIL, it tries to mount the first drive (full dos partition) to / and it fails with an i/o error. This causes NS to drop to a root shell prompt and the filesystem is read only. I looked at the /etc/fstab, and yes the dos drive is in there, to be mounted to /. But since the fs is read only, I can't change it. The Next Answers claim that using the floppy to boot a second hard drive is ok, so I'm conciderably stumped. What WOULD probably help me, is if there's a way to make a 'root' disk to use to mount the existing NS hd without using the startup config on that hd. I have yet to see how this can be done. I'm dying to get this working, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in adv ance. Greg Stritmater senip@j51.com --
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXHost from NS 2.1 to NS 3.3 possible? Date: 4 Dec 1995 09:51:15 GMT Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Message-ID: <49ugaj$rbs@news.gate.net> Is it possible for me to NXHost apps from my college's mono NeXTstations running 2.1 to my Intel box running 3.3 or are the DPS client libraries too incompatible? -Jon
From: fad@zoo.bt.co.uk (Francisco de Carvalho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: S3 Link Psion Software Date: 4 Dec 1995 10:54:00 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <49uk08$cg2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of any software for translating between Psion 3 Agenda files and pencil me in? Thanks for any advice Francisco -- --------------------------------------------------------------- F A de Carvalho Intelligence Software Systems BT Labs Telephone +44 1473 642368 B67 / Room G11 Fax +44 1473 637614 Martlesham Heath Mobile (UK) 0850 775383 Ipswich IP5 7RE, UK e-mail: fad@zoo.bt.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: 4 Dec 1995 07:44:06 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <49uqem$33u@papoose.quick.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >> >I have a message which appears in my console.log at 2:30am every day. I >> >checked crontab and crontab.local and I don't see any commands which run >> >at that time. Can anyone help me locate the origin of this message? (munch) >I was afraid you'd ask that. It's really weird. It says: >"this one" (without the quotes). > >Yeah, just "this one". Every day at 2:30am. It isn't a real problem (I >hope I didn't make it sound too serious) but more of an accoyance (I >can't figure out where it is coming from). Well, when all else fails (tah tah tah dum). . . BRUTE FORCE. You could try finding all files (whether ascii or binary) which have the string 'brute force in them'. Those words together should be rare in anything but english prose. find / -print | xargs ./brutesearch 'this one' ------ Here is a down and dirty brute force search ------ #!/bin/sh target="$1" shift for file do strings $file | grep -s "$target" && echo $file done Run as root, to avoid permission problems, this will find that string (as long as it exists as a true string). It still would miss something based on -- printf("%s %s", "this", "one"); but that is a long shot. If this fails to come up with a candidate you might try running a couple of bathces, before and after the event, which save the atime of every file. Anything executed or read during that period would have their atime changed. I bet, though, that the brute search finds it. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Intel NS on a secondary hard drive? Date: 4 Dec 1995 07:50:27 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <49uqqj$36o@papoose.quick.com> References: <slrn4c4sif.85f.senip@j51.com> In article <slrn4c4sif.85f.senip@j51.com>, The Tick <senip@j51.com> wrote: > I'm having trouble getting NS to work on the second IDE >hard drive of my machine. >only. I looked at the /etc/fstab, and >yes the dos drive is in there, to be mounted to /. But since the >fs is read only, I can't change it. >ance. From single user mode, first do an fsck -p /dev/rhd1a (or whatever your partitions raw device is). Then try mount -o remount /dev/sd2a /. If that works, then you can then edit /etc/fstab to change the '/' entry. I hope this helps. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: Borek Lupomesky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 3 Dec 1995 18:17:54 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BOREK LUPOMESKY, student University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ PGP and NeXT mail welcome, key available via finger =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: matw@coho.halcyon.com (Mathew D. Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Linux -> NeXT printer ? Date: 4 Dec 1995 14:49:20 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services Message-ID: <49v1pg$rb1@news1.halcyon.com> Intent: get NeXT slab to print postscript files for a Linux system. Description: I've got a NeXT slab at home that's hooked up to a Linux PC via ethernet. Getting the two to work together has been a breeze. Well, mostly. Getting the two set up so that the Linux box uses the NeXT's printer has been a challenge. I've managed to get the NeXT to print plain text files that were 'lpr'ed on the Linux system, but *.ps files disappear. It's probably for the same reason that 'lpr foo.ps' produces nothing when run on the NeXT. Trying that last command made me realize I'd been doing ALL my postscript printing from NeXT apps. How does one print *.ps files from csh on the NeXT? What kind of /etc/printcap entry do I need to use to get the printer daemon to send *.ps files through the command line postscript printer? Specifics: 68040 NeXT slab running NS3.0J P90 PC running Linux 1.2.13 Any help is appreciated. Mat Watson matw@halcyon.com
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Scanner for NEXTSTEP recommendations? Date: 4 Dec 1995 15:22:58 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <49v3oi$rl9@chinx4.thoughtport.COM> Hi, I've been using an old color HSD/UMax scanner for a few years and have been really happy with it. Since it fried about 6 months ago, getting in touch with UMax has been, however, a total pain (esp. since they don't seem to have e-mail). (Shipping the scanner, which I attempted once via UPS, was a nightmare - needless to say it never made it to Umas - but I digress...) I'm in the market for a good scanner that will work with old NeXT hardware and current NeXT OS software. I was really happy with Powerscan, however I'd like to know what everyone's experience has been with newer software and more current color scanner hardware that works with Black. Recommendations? Warnings? etc. please. E-mail to me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest. Thanks, Tim -- Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies, Inc. (e) treed@gun.com (MSN) timothy_reed@msn.com (C$) 102570,1070@compuserve.com "Written documentation is an admission of failure."
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 4 Dec 1995 10:46:12 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> In article <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz>, <lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz> wrote: > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. Install Carl Edman's wonderful EnhanceMail bundle. I thinks it's on all the NeXT sites by now. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: fiorini@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup comp.sys.next.misc, Articles 15152-15181 Date: 3 Dec 1995 13:34:33 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <49s919$3s6@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am finally ready to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.3, but I am afraid that some of my old applications (mathematica, illustrator, diagram, nxfax) will stop working with the new version. Did anybody have some of those applications die during the passage from 3.0 to 3.3? Thanks, paolo (please reply by e-mail) -- Dr. Paolo Fiorini Jet Propulsion Laboratory ph: +1 818 354-9061 California Institute of Technology fiorini@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? Date: 4 Dec 1995 17:05:38 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <49v9p2$g0s@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130102935.14273C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ngreene.817786415@houws001.shl.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130234738.482D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <49uqem$33u@papoose.quick.com> When you find the mysterious 'this one' generator, please don't forget to let us know what it turned out to be! I wish to God these calculations /============================================= had been executed by steam! / Joshua W Burton 708/677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu -- C. Babbage, 1821 /===============================================
From: roberth@meaddata.com (Robert Hodgeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PKWARE compatible ZIP/UNZIP for NeXT? Date: 4 Dec 1995 18:00:29 GMT Organization: Lexis-Nexis, Dayton OH Distribution: world Message-ID: <49vcvt$r9s@meaddata.meaddata.com> Howdy... I've got a NeXT on my desk at work (I personally rarely use it for more than a file archive), and was wondering if there was any software (share/freeware preferable) available to compress/decompress PKZIP archives? I've got a couple programs called zip and unzip for my SPARC, but nothing for the NeXT. Thanks in advance for info. I really don't know what release of NeXTStep we are running...but I am pretty sure it is fairly old...sorry I'm not too clear, but I'm not a NeXT person...thanks! -- +-------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Bob Hodgeman | All opinions expressed herein are | |LEXIS-NEXIS | solely my own, unless of course | |Dayton, OH | they belong to one of my other | |roberth@lexis-nexis.com | distinct multiple personalities. | +-------------------------+------------------------------------+ <A HREF="http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~hodgeman>My Homepage</A>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DJ2rqA.9oA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:37:22 GMT References: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com>, Scott Vail <svail@next.com> wrote: >In article <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> nwc@wsc.com (Nick Christopher) >writes: >> I think there was a Minix port.....*LOL* > >There was also a Plan 9 port. > *Was*, or *is*? :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PKWARE compatible ZIP/UNZIP for NeXT? Date: 4 Dec 1995 22:24:00 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <49vse0$4bj@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <49vcvt$r9s@meaddata.meaddata.com> roberth@meaddata.com (Robert Hodgeman) wrote: > Howdy... > > I've got a NeXT on my desk at work (I personally rarely use it for more than > a file archive), and was wondering if there was any software (share/freeware > preferable) available to compress/decompress PKZIP archives? Use the Opener.app (Opener_3.3_MAB.tar.gz). - Karsten --- Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome Tel.: 0172/3763092 Fax: 037296/15056 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP ***
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NFS to a Windows PC? Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 14:05:01 -0600 Organization: Bell Northern Research Message-ID: <30C3546D.17B5@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently installed Chameleon NFS on my PC (running Windows 3.1). I'm trying to setup NFS between the PC and my NeXT (black hardware, running 3.2). Can anyone help me with what I need to do on the NeXT as far as setup? Thanks, Dan -- Daniel A. Nichols Voice: (214) 790-7255 2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (214) 790-2950 Irving TX 75061-6645 Email: dan@kypris.com LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail welcome! Web:<http://rampages.onramp.net/~dan>
From: Tal Lancaster <tlan> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 4 Dec 1995 20:56:07 GMT Organization: Walt Disney Studios Message-ID: <49vn97$aou@cabinboy.studio.disney.com> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Borek Lupomesky wrote: > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. > > Bye Borek > There is a mailer plug-in (called mailbundle -- I think), which will quote an article you wish to reply to for you. It can be found in the ftp.orst.edu site. [Sniped] -- Tal Lancaster Technical Director, Disney Feature Animation email: tlan@fa.disney.com WEB: The RenderMan Repository (http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/)
From: lhj@vega.stanford.EDU (Lenore Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 5 Dec 1995 01:18:47 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <4a06ln$h1s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <49vn97$aou@cabinboy.studio.disney.com> In article <49vn97$aou@cabinboy.studio.disney.com> Tal Lancaster <tlan> writes: > Borek Lupomesky wrote: > > > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the > >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. > > > > Bye Borek > > > > There is a mailer plug-in (called mailbundle -- I think), which will quote an > article you wish to reply to for you. It can be found in the ftp.orst.edu > site. or you can cheat and click "forward" after "compose" and it will put the message in the compose window. of course you then have to manually (cut'n'paste) fill in the "to" address.
From: barclay@king.trs.ntc.nokia.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Looking for new telnet for NeXTStep Date: 4 Dec 1995 11:38:05 GMT Organization: Nokia Group Message-ID: <49umit$nuc@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> References: <49fko2$f7d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <49hthe$cgp@news.its.com> I don't know. I had been thinking about this myself only a couple of weeks ago. It should be easy as NetBSD already works on m68k machines. However you need to know how to access the NeXT hardware: video, scsi, etc. As far as I know this info was never published and when I asked NeXT back in '93 for it - they said no. However AT&T run Plan9 on NeXT machines so they must have found out how to do it. After all that, it should be possible. Regards, Alan. -- Alan Barclay The Electric Scribe Co. Ltd. alan@escribe.co.uk
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) Date: 5 Dec 1995 07:22:41 GMT Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto Message-ID: <4a0s01$ijj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com> In article <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com>, schurch@pixelhut.com (Sean Church) wrote: [ ] >Wollongong has an LPR/ LPD redirector that works over TCP/IP, for Win '95 >(and the bunch of windows OS's). > >(Print through FTP's loaf NFS product? Gods... that sounds like convoluted >pain and network overhead nightmares... like NFS mount timeouts and what >not). You can also use lpr/lpd with FTP's product which is a very trimmed down NFS client printer client product for Win95. It sets up in minutes and doesn't time out. I have no idea what you are talking about. If Wollongong works fine then great. I've never used it. Win95 comes with FTP as a vendor supplied product which makes it easy to add whatever. I've used FTP and InterCon products in printing to a NeXT printer and they both work fine, and are priced right. ------- Philip McDunnough LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L. van Emmerik) Subject: NEXTSEP/OpenSTEP available on DEC-platforms? Message-ID: <DJ3tCL.C3t@inter.NL.net> Sender: news@inter.NL.net (News at news) Organization: Holec Projects Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:07:26 GMT The subject says it all. Any pointers on the future availability of NEXTSTEP or OpenSTEP on DEC-computers? Please Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI adapters possible? Message-ID: <jpanicoDJ41Kp.Jrq@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <49qg7l$1sck@news.gate.net> <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <49scaf$9tk@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:07:37 GMT Sender: jpanico@netcom8.netcom.com I have an Adaptec 1542c and an Adaptec 2940w in my Dell. Works great. HDs are on the 2940w and Zip and cd-rom on the 1542. Super throughput. yucheng@math.arizona.edu wrote: : In <49rnjf$jse@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Karsten Heinze wrote: : > : > NeXTSTEP supports multiple SCSI adapters only with the : > SymbiosLogic53C8xxSCSIDriver (NCR8xx). : > : > - Karsten : This is not correct. I have Adaptec 2742AT (2 HDs) and : 1542cf (Toshiba CD-ROM) both in my computer, and : NeXTSTEP 3.3 has no trouble to access them. : Yuwen Cheng : yucheng@math.arizona.edu : - -- Joe Panico NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer BLaCKSMITH Inc. jpanico@netcom.com /* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation? Date: 5 Dec 1995 08:15:53 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4a1gm9$7g9@papoose.quick.com> References: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com> <DJ2rqA.9oA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <DJ2rqA.9oA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com>, Scott Vail <svail@next.com> wrote: >>In article <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> nwc@wsc.com (Nick Christopher) >>writes: >>> I think there was a Minix port.....*LOL* >> >>There was also a Plan 9 port. >> > > *Was*, or *is*? :-) Is. A full source port, with binaries to get you started, is available on CD. Get more information on it at http://plan9.att.com/plan9/distrib.html Note that recently someone munged their web tree. Lot's of things are failing because refs are kicking back as file:xxx.html rather than http://plan9.att.com/plan9/xxx.html Anyway, the full source license is $350. here is a quote from http://plan9.att.com/plan9/doc/port.html The NeXTstation operating system Plan 9 runs on the 68040-based NeXTstation but on no other NeXT machine. This is actually one of our favorite ports: the crisp two-bit-per-pixel display is a delight. The one strange part is that we need a three-button mouse, so we unplug the NeXT mouse and use a 9600-baud serial-port Logitech mouse on serial port B. To get the system running, install NeXT's boot program in the TFTP directory (called /lib/tftpd on Plan 9) and /68020/9nextstation where BOOTP can find it (we put it in /68020/9nextstation). Boot that file from the network by typing ben /68020/9nextstation to the boot ROM. This will load the boot program and use that to load the real operating system. This can be made to happen automatically; see the NeXT manuals for details. This port could probably be made to run on the old 68030-based cubes without too much work. Like most manufacturers, NeXT kept the architecture pretty similar between models. The 68030 has a very different MMU, though, so the job won't be trivial. (The above is copyright ATT Bell Labs and is used without permission) (the net booting part means that you will need to bootstrap off a network from some other box like a PC, SPARC, Intel box, SGI etc. Since it uses bootp, you probably do not have to be running plan9 on the server of the bootp stuff, but this is just a guess. I do not plan to try it out till next spring with my turbo slab at home.) -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: na199@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PS-Printer on Ethernet Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 14:39:21 GMT Organization: Free-Net Erlangen Nuernberg, Germany Message-ID: <4a1liqF4dt@uni-erlangen.de> I'm trying to connect my Lexmark Printer on the BNeXT via ethernet. ~o_Can anybody advise me about some written help how to do that. bye and thanks. Henning P.S. Please email! -- Henning heinze na199@fim.uni-erlangen.de
From: christopher lee thomasson <clthom02@mik.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: , Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 10:51:50 -0500 Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951205104703.27242A-100000@nx52.mik.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Students......Christmas Break Positions Accepting applications Tues. Dec.5 and Wed. Dec. 6 @ Student Center 10am- 1:30pm $9.50 to start $9.50 to start $9.50 to start * Management oppurtunities * College accredited work program * Excellent business experience * Can become part-time after break, and part or full-time during summer * Flexible schedules * Corporate scholarships available * All majors may apply If unable to attend call after Wed. 278-4422
From: Mark.R.Shepard@tek.com (Mark R Shepard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Scanners hardware & software Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 07:56:57 -0700 Organization: Tektronix Message-ID: <Mark.R.Shepard-0512950756570001@t1richabmac.wv.tek.com> I have a friend that wants a scanner (high res & possibly color) for her NeXT. What are the options for her? Can you use HP and the like with third party drivers and software? What application software is there for photo scanning? -- Insert standard disclaimer here.
From: knobi@architektur.uni-kassel.de ( Frank Knobloch ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep Date: 5 Dec 1995 16:12:31 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Message-ID: <4a1r1f$1b8p@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hi! The only thing i want to know is: Is it possible to get an OpenStep-Beta Release for Windows NT? We (University of Kassel) developed some applications under NeXTSTEP and we want to test it with OpenStep for NT. We would like to get more Informatione of OpenStep Please let us know Thanks Frank
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using F1-F12 keys as Command Keys -- Possible? Date: 5 Dec 1995 17:40:11 GMT Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles, CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4a205r$qf8@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> Hello, I tried to create a custom keymap using Keyboard.app, but I found one deficiency: there didn't seem to be a way to map a key like F1 to produce the sequence Command-z, for example. I'd like to bind my F1-F12 keys to Command keys, but I don't know how to do it, or if it can be done at all. Unfortunately, the sequence editor in Keyboard.app does not allow you to put modifier keys as part of your sequence. Also, when you map a character to a key, there is a pop-up list that lets you choose ASCII, Symbol or Function. Just what exactly is the Function setting good for? Can I do anything useful with it? Thanks! I'd appreciate it if you can e-mail me a copy of your reply. - Eskandar Eskandar Ensafi University of California, Los Angeles Department of Biomathematics esky@cs.ucla.edu NEXTSTEP Software Engineer http://www.cs.ucla.edu/csd-lanai/fweb/esky -- KiNDa LiKe a DoG WiTH SeVeN PuPiLS iN iTS eYe L E F T H A N D KiNDa LiKe a MaDNeSS THaT ReFuSeS To SuBSiDe B L A C K KiNDa LiKe eVeRYTHiNG You WaNT JuST WiTHiN YouR GRaSP - - - - - - - - KiNDa LiKe HoW a BaNSHee-WaiL DaNCeS oN a LiViNG HeaRT... D a n z i g
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: am (answering machine) and ZyXEL ELITE? (where's Jolly???) Date: 5 Dec 1995 18:19:52 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <4a1uvo$etq@alf.uib.no> am v.1.16, Elite rom v.1.06. It manages to answer the phone but never gets any farther . I've emailed both Axel and Jolly - mail bounces. Who is maintaining this code these days? It's one of the programs I use most. Pleases email replies. Regards, --- -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: batemand@buck.com (Dan Bateman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Eudora, getting mail from a black NeXT? Date: Tue, 05 Dec 95 18:56:45 GMT Organization: WestLab Consulting Message-ID: <4a24o2INN3em@clem.WestLab.Com> Hi, I'm trying to get a Win95 machine running Eudora to get the mail from a NeXT, but every time I try I get the following message: Connection refused (10061) This sounds like Eudora isn't connecting to the mail port for some reason, but the NeXT is up and running normally. Has anyone else gotten this combination to work? If not, has anyone gotten ANY mail program running in Win95 to get mail from a NeXT? -=- Dan
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Eudora, getting mail from a black NeXT? Date: 5 Dec 1995 21:30:48 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <4a2dm8$j7f@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> References: <4a24o2INN3em@clem.WestLab.Com> In article <4a24o2INN3em@clem.WestLab.Com> batemand@buck.com (Dan Bateman) writes: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a Win95 machine running Eudora to get the mail from a > NeXT, but every time I try I get the following message: > > Connection refused (10061) > > This sounds like Eudora isn't connecting to the mail port for some reason, > but the NeXT is up and running normally. > > Has anyone else gotten this combination to work? If not, has anyone gotten > ANY mail program running in Win95 to get mail from a NeXT? This isn't a problem of the Win95 or Eudora at first guess. You have to install a popmail program on the NeXT. I installed popper from one of the archives and followed the instructions for adding the line pop2 stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/popper popper to the /etc/inetd.conf and added pop2 109/tcp postoffice to the /etc/services file then used niload services . < /etc/services to install it in netinfo, followed by a boot Hope that helps. - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: pete@voyager.whoi.edu (Peter Schmitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD players Date: 5 Dec 1995 22:18:13 GMT Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Message-ID: <4a2gf5$7fo@pearl.whoi.edu> Are there any better CD players for the NeXTStep? I would like one on the order of xmcd, that provides the ability to record and remember tracks in a database. -pete
From: rony@rdaher.async.csuohio.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrading an instaled NSFIP 3.3 Date: 6 Dec 1995 00:17:02 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Message-ID: <4a2ndu$cqh@csu-b.csuohio.edu> Hello all, I'm currently running NSFIP 3.3 on a 486/33 with 16 Megabytes of RAM. I'm planning a upgrading to a P-133 relatively soon. How can I upgrade this current installation of NeXTSTEP for use with the P-133. ie: My current machine is VLB and the P-133 will be PCI. Should I install the PCI drivers before I swap the motherboard, or should I try do go about it another way. As for the video card, I can simply switch to Default VGA before swapping parts, so this shouldn't be a problem. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
From: cwwang@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (Chi-Chou Wang (Joe)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 68040 NeXT Cube question... Date: 6 Dec 1995 02:00:17 GMT Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <4a2tfh$t5f@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: cwwang@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu Here at the MIS/POM lab, we have an old 68040 NeXT cube system running Mach OS(One of the 1991 build). Instead of turning the machine to someone else on campus, we are thinking about utilizing the machine to serve as a video capturing system. The idea is to connect a video camera to the NeXT machine and have a video capturing software to grab still picture of a room or a person. The resulting graphic file format has to be either be .TIFF(which from my understanding is something that NeXT Dimension support), .GIF or .JPEG. Those graphics files will be used by a 80x86 based softwares(ie. MS Access, Visual Basic or a NT web server). Since this is a fairly old machine, and I don't really have extensive knowledge about NeXT systems, my question is where can I find such video capturing software that will work for the 68040 NeXT cube? Please reply through email. Thank you. -- Joe Wang -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzB3ZRsAAAEEAMAbzMnn0P2fT7JtrQeOLRV3nouduewlC/HQ/aNuIvjT78AL MIobPJenafzRbEgz8ljoC6duJdNKyKC9ipCWmOWFjqsiS0AJsXKPRPndyn2VNG+G aBxWt3pIaUqNq5CY226Y1jM2T6GLJB10JCY/yrn33gXZqOrw8M7lTiiDcuuVAAUR tDFDaGktQ2hvdSBKLiBXYW5nIDxjd3dhbmdAdHJ1bXBldC5haXguY2FscG9seS5l ZHU+ =qldk -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: matw@chinook.halcyon.com (Mathew D. Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Linux -> NeXT printer ? Date: 6 Dec 1995 04:23:45 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services Message-ID: <4a35sh$d7l@news1.halcyon.com> References: <49v1pg$rb1@news1.halcyon.com> <4a1f51$7c4@papoose.quick.com> >Strange. > >I print ps files to the NeXT printer all the time. I also can >print to an HP laserJet which is hung off the net. For the latter >I do have a printcap entry. >dumhp| dums HP LaserJet4:\ > :lp=:rm-dum:rp=dumhp:sd=/usr/spool/lpd/dumhp:mx#0\ > :ty = "HP LaserJet 4 PostScript 600DPI" > >Could you be more explicit about what happens when you try to >print a valid .ps file from the shell on your NeXT. Does it >print out the ascii text of the ps code or what? Thanks James! What happened was nothing at all. I've since figured out why. All of the files I had attempted to print were missing showpage. NeXT's preview (and other apps) managed to print the files just fine, but lpr didn't. No errors, no nothing. Finally I tried lpr -m, and the returned mail claimed that the files HAD printed (!?). Really weird I thought. Then I recalled showpage from some postscript programming I did about 10 years ago. I search my files, and it wasn't there, so I tacked it on the end and ... success! I didn't even suspect the files since the other apps printed them no sweat. I was forming the conclusion that there must be some 'back door' command one had to use when printing from the shell. Turns out that it was just some "incomplete" postscript files. Thanks again, --Mat matw@halcyon.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie Message-ID: <1995Dec6.002220.409@hobbit> From: bailey9@marshall.edu (Raymond A. Bailey) Date: 6 Dec 95 00:22:20 EDT References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Organization: Marshall University In article <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>, philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > In article <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, > zyxt@ix.netcom.com (Joe Reiter) wrote: > > [ ] >> My main questions are these: >> >>1) how should i set up win95 to work with the Next? Thus far, i've been >>completely unable to make them talk to each other. I'm just not familiar >>enough with network software, i suppose. >> >>2) once i get them talking to each other (if i manage that), how can i get >>win95 to acknowledge the laser printer on the Next? as of yet, the Next >>itself keeps telling me that the printer is not connected, even when it is. >>so, i'm not sure what to do there. there's no toner cartridge in the > printer, >>but i figured it would recognize the printer anyway, and just tell me what > was >>wrong. oh well. > > First get the two systems connected via Ethernet, and get the printer working > on the NeXT at least! Then buy FTP's InterDrive 95 sw for win95. This is an > NFS client which will also allow you to print to the NeXT printer either via > the usual lpr/lpd or if you manage to get the printer treated as an "NFS > printer"...There's a lot of free software for ftp'ing between the NeXT and > win95, but printing is another issue. > > You need to run pcnsfd on the NeXT (comes with the OS or you can get it for > free). When you set up the printer make it remote. > > > ------- > Philip McDunnough > LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze...} > philip@utstat.toronto.edu > If Samba builds on NeXT (I've only used it with Dec Unix and Linux), you'd be able to accomplish the same thing with no cost. -- --------------------- R. Andrew Bailey Ignorer of the Popular ----------------------
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 6 Dec 1995 16:24:42 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) wrote: > In article <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz>, <lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz> wrote: > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the > >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. > > Install Carl Edman's wonderful EnhanceMail bundle. > I thinks it's on all the NeXT sites by now. EnhanceMail is a nice addition, but it has some serious quoting problems and limitation. Any lines that are shorter than the wrapping length are joined to adjacent lines and white space is apparently consolidated. Any RTF formatting is lost. For example: Are you no longer supporting NeXT hardware? --- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions becomes > Are you no longer supporting NeXT hardware? --- Art Isbell NeXT & > MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: > +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: > NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and > case management solutions Pretty ugly. Get the MailHelper service for quoting and adding signatures. EnhanceMail deals with signatures well, but newsreaders overwrite the signature when replying to a news posting. EnhanceMail has no way to manually add a signature when this happens. MailHelper can take care of this as well. Carl knows about these problems and will probably deal with them in his abundant spare time :-) But he's doing this as a service to our community and rumor has it that he does have another life, so be patient and enjoy EnhanceMail's nice features. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: ross@aztec.lib.utk.edu (RhinoceRoss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 16:19:25 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville Message-ID: <4a4fv6$9e1@gaia.ns.utk.edu> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <1995Dec6.002220.409@hobbit> Uh, I use my NeXT station turbo as a print server for my Windows `95 machine with no problems. I use Windows LPR Spooler (a shareware Windows 3.1 program) by Thomas Heil. You set up the print queue that you would be using on it, then set up in your Print Manager the drivers for the particular printer you are using, then connect it to the name of the file where the spool information is kept. Make sure your IP address is in the /etc/hosts.lpd file on the NeXT! Then print as normal (i.e alt-f-p from the document) Windows will treat it as a local printer and you can watch the progress on the spooler's panel. Printing is no problem, now if only I could run my NeXT apps from my Windows machine...
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 6 Dec 1995 17:16:04 GMT Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. TickleServices comes with a service to do this, although the details escape me right now, since its been a while since I've accessed the net through my NeXT. Stefano
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerold@ariel.infodesign.ch (Gerold Rupprecht) Subject: Re: Newsgroup comp.sys.next.misc, Articles 15152-15181 Message-ID: <DJ6CtA.G3K@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: A customer of EUnet AG, Switzerland References: <49s919$3s6@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:05:34 GMT In article <49s919$3s6@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> fiorini@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov writes: > > Hello, > > I am finally ready to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.3, but I am afraid that > some of my old applications (mathematica, illustrator, diagram, nxfax) > will stop working with the new version. > Did anybody have some of those applications die during the passage > from 3.0 to 3.3? > > Thanks, > > paolo > > (please reply by e-mail) > > -- > Dr. Paolo Fiorini > Jet Propulsion Laboratory ph: +1 818 354-9061 > California Institute of Technology fiorini@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov The above applications should work just fine. What has been removed is the Appleshare client software and the telephone kit from 3.3. The mail application has been greatly improved, numerous bug fixes. Definitely worth the upgrade. We are very happy running 3.3 Best regards, Gerold Rupprecht Geneva, Switzerland
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Eudora, getting mail from a black NeXT? Date: 6 Dec 1995 18:13:06 GMT Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content Message-ID: <4a4mfi$pbo@miwok.nbn.com> References: <4a24o2INN3em@clem.WestLab.Com> In <4a24o2INN3em@clem.WestLab.Com> Dan Bateman wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a Win95 machine running Eudora to get the mail from a > NeXT, but every time I try I get the following message: > > Connection refused (10061) > > This sounds like Eudora isn't connecting to the mail port for some reason, > but the NeXT is up and running normally. > > Has anyone else gotten this combination to work? If not, has anyone gotten > ANY mail program running in Win95 to get mail from a NeXT? > > -=- > Dan > Hi There: I've had very good success using a NEXTSTEP mail server for Eudora clients on both the Mac and Windows. Aside from configuring MacTCP and/or Winsock you have to have a POP (Post Office Protocol) server running on the NEXTSTEP side. PopOver.app is a POP client that comes with a very easy to install POP server. You can find it on the archives (try ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/mail). I can't heap enough praise on this app. I don't know why companies continue to spend outrageous sums on proprietary mail systems like cc:Mail, etc when they can use Eudora to create an open systems MIME mail setup for way less. Best regards, John C. Fox john@gscorp.com http://www.gscorp.com
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cp/mv to dos diskette Date: 2 Dec 95 18:17:13 GMT Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <mp.817928233@dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130101644.14273A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> >From time to time I have to copy or move files to diskette. Doing so >from the commandline gives this error message: "Invalid argument" >and this error message in the console.log: >"dos_setattr: INVALID OP" >Doing the same thing from the Workspace results in no such error messages. >There doesn't seem to be any problems with the files being moved (no >corruption of data or anything like that) but something isn't right >because I'm getting these messages, right? >Any clues? I have noticed something similar: editing a DOS ascii-file (which already existed on the diskette) failed to be saved by edit.app, but saving to disk and copying with the Workspace was no problem. Martin -- Martin Pruefer DL8OAU (M.Pruefer@tu-bs.de) | Tel: +49 531/391-7453 Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | __ Fax: +49 531/391-5696 Technical University of Braunschweig | /\_\ Why use Windows since Hamburger Str. 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG | \/_/ there are doors?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? [SOLVED] Message-ID: <60DDC53001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: 06 Dec 95 13:16:00 EST Well, I gave up and (as root) ran find / -exec grep "this one" \; -print (or something close to that) last night as I went to bed. This morning the answer was clear. It was my fault. I have root's home setup as /Users/root but it doesn't really like that, since it wants all of root's files to be directly under / I was checking some time ago to see if it actually used /.cshrc or /Users/root/.cshrc (it uses /.cshrc) when I accessed this or that command. My very technical testing method was to insert the lines echo "this one" into /.cshrc and echo "new one" into ~root/.cshrc. Apparently when some /etc/crontab job ran it invokes a csh, and when it tried to 'echo' the output went to /dev/console. My silly problem is solved. Thanks for all the suggestions. TjL
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone have am working with ZyXEL Elite? Date: 6 Dec 1995 23:53:36 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <4a56tg$fba@alf.uib.no> This is giving me a headache. Has _anyone_ gotten am to work with an Elite? I hadno idea it was so different from a U1496... It answers, it plays a message but neer gets to play the beep. It waits for a VCON response but the modem is sending OK. (p.s. can you tell I don't program...?) I've changed amlib.c from at+vbt to at+vtd and assume that since the Elites command set is changed that this is OK (+vbt does not exist anymore...) Please email replies... Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: EOF: multiple declarations for method `endEditing' Message-ID: <1995Dec7.005259.3295@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 00:52:59 GMT How to get rid of this warning? This message arise when I started to use the method -endEditing to force an update on an NXTableview. BTW the program seems to work. Prog.m:203: warning: multiple declarations for method `endEditing' /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/EOController.h: In function `endEditing': /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/EOController.h:197: warning: using `-(void)endEditing' /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXEditableFormatter.h: In function `endEditing': /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXEditableFormatter.h:69: warning: also found `-(BOOL)endEditing' /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXTableView.h: In function `endEditing': /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXTableView.h:166: warning: also found `-endEditing' Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: johnz@shellx.best.com (John Zollinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: EOF: multiple declarations for method `endEditing' Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 Dec 1995 19:15:02 -0800 Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <4a5m7m$7jn@shellx.best.com> References: <1995Dec7.005259.3295@free.fdn.org> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org wrote: : How to get rid of this warning? : This message arise when I started to use the method -endEditing to force an : update on an NXTableview. : BTW the program seems to work. : Prog.m:203: warning: multiple declarations for method `endEditing' : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/EOController.h: In function `endEditing': : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/EOController.h:197: warning: using : `-(void)endEditing' : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXEditableFormatter.h: In function : `endEditing': : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXEditableFormatter.h:69: warning: also : found `-(BOOL)endEditing' : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXTableView.h: In function `endEditing': : /NextDeveloper/Headers/eointerface/NXTableView.h:166: warning: also found : `-endEditing' Because the object you are sending the 'endEditing' method to is of type 'id' (so you can hook it up in IB), and the compiler finds multiple objects that have that method, it just picks one that it thinks you mean. It is easy to fix. Just type cast the object when you use it. Like so: [(NXTableView *)myTableView endEditing]; Then it will know what object you mean, and the warning will go away. This is a good way to do things anyway, so that the compiler can tell you if you screw something up. But, then I'm the type that makes sure my compiles have no warnings so that when one shows up, it catches my attention. Good luck, John Zollinger ProActive Consulting, Inc. proactiv@sunrem.com
From: cayouett@bnr.ca (Daniel Cayouette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any EOF Ingres adaptors? Date: 6 Dec 1995 22:42:54 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Message-ID: <4a569e$oud@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca> I know that EOF comes with Oracle and Sybase adaptors. Is there an Ingres one? Thanks, Daniel PS: Email replies preferred. cayouett@bnr.ca -- Daniel Cayouette Bell Northern Research Ottawa, Ontario Daniel.Cayouette@bnr.ca
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? [SOLVED] Date: 7 Dec 1995 05:25:34 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-g-15.usc.edu Message-ID: <4a5tse$65p@usc.edu> References: <60DDC53001A23A7C@-SMF-> 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) wrote: > > My very technical testing method was to insert the lines > > echo "this one" > > into /.cshrc and > > echo "new one" > > into ~root/.cshrc. Apparently when some /etc/crontab job ran it invokes a > csh, and when it tried to 'echo' the output went to /dev/console. > > My silly problem is solved. Thanks for all the suggestions. Boy oh boy. :-) -- Be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV For PGP key, send email with subject "request_PGP"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: You fool! Message-ID: <199512070540.AAA25516@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 00:40:53 -0500 Hi. For fun, try this: % strings /sdmach | grep -ni fool (I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Lightning5S).) --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger mailto:ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Office: +1-716-275-0922; Lab: +1-716-275-5377 University of Rochester Fax: +1-716-461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: lehmann@iaeb.kloeckner-hb.de (Dirk Lehmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSFiP: Sometimes no Sound ! Date: 7 Dec 1995 12:42:49 GMT Organization: Stahlwerke Bremen Sender: lehmann@iaeb (Dirk Lehmann) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4a6ng9$4r1@opuskl.kloeckner-hb.de> Hi, I have a strange problem with the sound output of my SoundBlaster16 VE. The first time this problem occured while playing sound with sndplay from a shell. The sound came out randomly. The same happened when I'm holding the backspace key in a workspace window (this causes NXBeep to play a sound). Sometimes the sound is playing after seconds, sometimes after a minute. The same thing happens while playing a modfile. This problem is also reported by a friend with the same hardware configuration. Configure.app reports _no_ collision with other devices. The soundcard is working fine under '95. My hardware configuration is : Intel Endeavor PCI/Triton Board, NS3.3 with patch SoundBlaster16 VE S3 Displayadapter SMC ELite Ultra 16 2940 SCSI Controller Thanks in advance Dirk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater) Subject: Re: Intel NS on a secondary hard drive? Organization: TZ-Link Internet: Our System Can Kick Your System's Ass Message-ID: <DJ7Hvq.HpE@news2.new-york.net> References: <slrn4c4sif.85f.senip@j51.com> <49uqqj$36o@papoose.quick.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 07:52:38 GMT In article <49uqqj$36o@papoose.quick.com>, James E. Quick wrote: > >I hope this helps. > That worked great! Thanks alot. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ngreene@locws140049.shl.com (Neil Greene) Subject: Re: where is this message coming from? [SOLVED] Message-ID: <ngreene.818309911@houws001.shl.com> Sender: usenet@shlnews.shl.com (shlnews news) Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc. References: <60DDC53001A23A7C@-SMF-> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 04:18:31 GMT 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY) writes: >Well, I gave up and (as root) ran >find / -exec grep "this one" \; -print >(or something close to that) last night as I went to bed. >This morning the answer was clear. It was my fault. >I have root's home setup as /Users/root but it doesn't really like that, >since it wants all of root's files to be directly under / >I was checking some time ago to see if it actually used /.cshrc or >/Users/root/.cshrc (it uses /.cshrc) when I accessed this or that command. >My very technical testing method was to insert the lines >echo "this one" >into /.cshrc and >echo "new one" >into ~root/.cshrc. Apparently when some /etc/crontab job ran it invokes a >csh, and when it tried to 'echo' the output went to /dev/console. >My silly problem is solved. Thanks for all the suggestions. That will do it. By design, /bin/csh executes/sources the users .cshrc file when running #!/bin/csh scripts. -- Neil Greene Senior Oracle DBA / Unix System Administrator SHL Systemhouse, Inc. LA Outsourcing Center <HREF=mailto:ngreene@shl.com> -- Neil Greene Senior Oracle DBA / Unix System Administrator SHL Systemhouse, Inc. LA Outsourcing Center <HREF=mailto:ngreene@shl.com>
From: ross@aztec.lib.utk.edu (RhinoceRoss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 21:19:52 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville Message-ID: <4a7lub$m3q@gaia.ns.utk.edu> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <1995Dec6.002220.409@hobbit> Due to the amount of email I'm getting concerning where to find Windows LPR Spooler, here: Try http://www.tucows.com/lpr.html It's the one on the bottom with 3 1/2 cows (how clever) There are some other programs on there that you might want to try...But, I've only had success with that one. Or, if you don't have web access here's the author's e-mail addy: th.heil@kfa-juelich.de Or snail mail: Thomas Heil Hindenburgstr. 50 41352 Korschenbroich Germany Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com> <4a0s01$ijj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 09:18:13 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec6.091813.12993@proximus.north.de> In article <4a0s01$ijj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>, Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: In article <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com>, schurch@pixelhut.com (Sean Church) wrote: [...] Sean: Wollongong has an LPR/ LPD redirector that works over TCP/IP, for Win '95 (and the bunch of windows OS's). [...] Philip: You can also use lpr/lpd with FTP's product which is a very trimmed down NFS client printer client product for Win95. It sets up in minutes and [...] Is there a PD solution as well? Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 16:14:00 -0500 Organization: Imonics Corporation Message-ID: <30C75918.5672@imonics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can print labels? -- Bob Lunney | Building tomorrow's legacy Imonics, Inc. | systems today. (tm) bob.lunney@imonics.com | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: mark@cse.ucsc.edu (Mark Herbster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Will nextstep run on thinkpad 701? Date: 8 Dec 1995 03:03:11 GMT Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE Message-ID: <4a89tf$9b0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Hi, is it possible to run NeXTstep on a thinkpad 701 with 16megs, 2bit grayscale is sufficient for me. Thanks, Mark Herbster http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~mark/
From: Colin Eric Johnson <colinj@us.itd.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Plan 9, is it out there? (Was: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation?) Date: 7 Dec 1995 22:38:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Operations Management Message-ID: <4a7qdp$dj2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com> <DJ2rqA.9oA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4a1gm9$7g9@papoose.quick.com> Originator: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu In article <4a1gm9$7g9@papoose.quick.com>, James E. Quick <jq@papoose.quick.com> wrote: > >A full source port, with binaries to get you started, is available >on CD. Get more information on it at > http://plan9.att.com/plan9/distrib.html > Is the Plan 9 site still up and running? My attempts to look at anything at the site, "Host Unreachable." What's up? -- "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ Colin Johnson | colinj@umich.edu | http://www.itd.umich.edu/~colinj/
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 8 Dec 1995 04:25:19 GMT Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: reichman@comserv-b-49.usc.edu Message-ID: <4a8enf$3jg@usc.edu> References: <30C75918.5672@imonics.com> Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com> wrote: > Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can > print labels? Here's what I know Commercially - Dataphile & Stay In Touch, and Virtuoso, Adobe Illustrator, Frame, Mesa and the other spreadsheet programs. Free - there is on the ftp sites a label program I'm pretty sure I saw one -- Be well, Matthew ================================================================== Matthew Reichman | NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k reichman@scf.usc.edu | NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome USC-CNTV For PGP key, send email with subject "request_PGP"
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 05 Dec 1995 22:26:38 +0100 Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Sender: jacob@jnext Message-ID: <x74tvfp5gw.fsf@jnext> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> In-reply-to: jq@papoose.quick.com's message of 4 Dec 1995 10:46:12 -0500 jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) writes: In article <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz>, <lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz> wrote: > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. Install Carl Edman's wonderful EnhanceMail bundle. I thinks it's on all the NeXT sites by now. [As the author of the Supercite Tickle Service, I have to say this] Or better yet (IMHO) get Supercite.ts from Peanuts: (requires that you have TickleServices.app!) It should be at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/platforms/next/Unix/mail/Supercite.d.tar.gz You can get pointers to where Supercite is on Peanuts and all the Peanuts mirrors by pointing your webbrowser to: http://www.dannug.dk/jacob/reviews/TickleServices-extras.html PS: If you use 8 bit characters, I have a more recent version of Supercite that doesn't remove those when quoting/reformatting lines (it uses the GNU 'fmt' command to do the formatting of test). Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob & My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob NeXTMail, MIMEMail and SUNMail jacob@dannug.dk
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 8 Dec 1995 13:51:11 GMT Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <4a9fsf$ol1@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <30C75918.5672@imonics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com> wrote: >Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can >print labels? Many can, depending on what kind of label you're looking for. For mailing labels, try StayInTouch or SBook; both have label printing features and templates for standard Avery label formats (you can also design your own). DataPhile will also do this. If you're looking to print large labels to stick on things, get any of the drawing apps and make your own template. With NeXT's GUI its absurdly easy. -- Stefano
From: sven.hennig@wiesbaden.netsurf.de (Sven Hennig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ---Please Read This--- Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 12:34:11 GMT Organization: Vistec GmbH Message-ID: <4a9bla$i6m@luna.vistec.com> Hi, I just wanted to give you the chance to earn some money in a very easy way.A friend of mine turned me on a company called Intercall Marketing, which offers a nice, uncomplicated way to get some more cash, just by callingthem and advertising a bit. The number of the company is 011-24-831-831 (if you're calling from the USA, in other countries it's (i think) ++248-313131). The call has a fee of $1.50, so I think (hope) this isn't to expensive for the possibility to get some more money. Now I'll try to explain how it works: After calling the number a recording gives you deatiled informationon what to to next. After a brief description you will be asked to enter a six digit account number of the person that gave you this number, and this should be my account number. It is -3 8 0 4 9 9- (this one is mine) and then you can start to earn big money for nearly doing nothing. To explain a little how it works, when you type in my account number, the computer will give you you're own account number and a personal PIN Number for your use only. Then it will record name and address for future accounting needs, i.e. payments. Here is where the money comes from: For every call made to this number, intercall receives $1.50. 50 Cents go to the account number you first typed in. But of course, now as you've got you're own account, you'll want people to call and type in your account number right away ! And I think, with the help of all the networking systems around, it won't be a problem to reach many people. Up to now its nothing special, BUT IT GETS EVEN BETTER. You not only make 50 cents from the first people who call using your number but also when they get people to call using their number you get another 25 Cents from them, plus another 25 cents from the people they get to call. So that means you get paid 3 Levels deep, which could amount to some serious $$$. An example: If you get 100 people to call (by advertising in the net, or in the local news papers), then you get 50$. If these people, let's say get another 50 people to call, it's already $1,250. But the third Level is the most important one(so you should perhaps hurry a bit), because if these people get 25 people each, that means that you'll get exactly $31,250 (just imagine, if every Level would get 100 people, you would get $ 250.000). Some good cash for nearly doing nothing, isn't it ? If you're wondering why Intercall does this, realize that they get 50 Cents for every call. 1st Level=$0.50, 2nd Level=$0.25, 3rd Level=$0.25 => $1.00. Remember that they'll get $1.50 for each call, so that leaves 50 cents per call. I normally dont try this things out. But it's (IMHO) not possible to loose much money, and just paying $1.50 for calling, and then perhaps getting much more cash, it's not too bad ? But now I stop trying to convince you. You have to decide if this possibility of earning cash is worth $1.50. Thank you very much for reading, i hope it didn'T bother you. C ya Sven H. ----------------Sven Hennig---------------- ------------Zum Kohlwaldfeld 2a------------ -------------D-65817 Eppstein------------- ------------Tel. ++49-6198-9218------------ ------------Data ++49-6198-9208------------ -E-Mail: sven.hennig@wiesbaden.netsurf.de-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Control: cancel <4a9bla$i6m@luna.vistec.com> From: sven.hennig@wiesbaden.netsurf.de (Sven Hennig) Subject: cancel: ---Please Read This--- Organization: Vistec GmbH Message-ID: <cancel.4a9bla$i6m@luna.vistec.com> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 19:31:31 GMT Cleaning up spam from luna.vistec.com.
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend 1.4.1 submitted to orst Date: 8 Dec 1995 14:40:07 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <4aa4an$hmq@panix.com> Hi. I put an update to Fiend 1.4 on orst a couple of days ago. As of 1430 Eastern time (USA), it's still in the submissions directory. (FYI only - no offense to sanguish.) I'm sure it will be moving to .../binaries/util when Scott is feeling better and gets to it, but if you are being bitten by any of the following bugs, you might want to grab it: * Fiend refuses to launch apps from the Fiend Shelf. * Fiend gets confused when you launch apps from paths with spaces in them * Fiend gets confused when replacing more than one row's worth of app icons * Fiend no longer tracks some apps with extra-long file names (The posting in c.s.n.announce is on its way, also waiting for Scott's recovery). A more complete announcement is in the file Fiend1.4.1.README, also in the submissions directory. -- David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48")
From: bsantini@pb.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to read .au & .wav, etc. sound files Date: 7 Dec 1995 14:50:30 GMT Organization: Long Island Internet HQ/Point Blank BBS LTD. Message-ID: <4a6uvm$g78@ns2.pb.net> Keywords: au, wav, sound Does anyone know how to guide this novice to playing .au &.wav, etc, sound files from the www? Thanks! Barry Santini bsantini@pb.net
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Date: 8 Dec 1995 20:58:47 GMT Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles, CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> Hello, Does the NEXTSTEP driver for the Matrox Millenium graphics card support the card's real-time 3D and 3D rendering capabilities? If so, how do you enable it? If not, do you have any idea how to tweak Quick RenderMan to give you more detail at the expense of performance? It really annoys me when the Chair.rib example gives me a black image as I rotate it in 3View. Yes, that's right -- I get no interactive rotation until I stop dragging and release the mouse with this particular image, on a 133 MHz Pentium with 32 MB RAM and 4 MB VRAM (actually WRAM on the Matrox Millenium). It would be nice to be able to rotate images similar to Elephant.rib, in surface mode, with more detail than currently allowed by Quick RenderMan. I don;t care if it's not really quick at doing it -- I just want to be able to do it! Thanks! - Eskandar -- KiNDa LiKe a DoG WiTH SeVeN PuPiLS iN iTS eYe L E F T H A N D KiNDa LiKe a MaDNeSS THaT ReFuSeS To SuBSiDe B L A C K KiNDa LiKe eVeRYTHiNG You WaNT JuST WiTHiN YouR GRaSP - - - - - - - - KiNDa LiKe HoW a BaNSHee-WaiL DaNCeS oN a LiViNG HeaRT... D a n z i g
From: Borek Lupomesky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mail.app - more that two extra headers? Date: 7 Dec 1995 18:19:25 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4a7b7d$49p@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Hi all! How can I set-up more than two outgoing headers in prefs panel? Can I change value for 'From:' field? Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BOREK LUPOMESKY, student University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ PGP and NeXT mail welcome, key available via finger =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: bsantini@pb.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with addresses Date: 7 Dec 1995 13:54:29 GMT Organization: Long Island Internet HQ/Point Blank BBS LTD. Message-ID: <4a6rml$fa3@ns2.pb.net> When I try to creat new address groups in my private address area (~/me/Library/addresses/example.addresses), they icon as a group, but they are really an individual address, and trying to copy or move other addresses into these new "group address folders" causes all the addresses moved to completely vanish, and are unrecoverable. Any ideas? Thanks for you help. Barry Santini bsantini@pb.net
From: zan660@aol.com (Zan660) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep PowerPC Port???? Date: 8 Dec 1995 17:07:40 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4aacvc$s5q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Is NeXT planning a port to the PReP or CHrP platforms or the Power Mac platforms? It seems like a great idea.
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Alberto Ricart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any software to link postscript files? Date: 8 Dec 1995 20:39:54 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aa7qq$7qf@news.inc.net> References: <951122101252.562AAFEF.sumair@pune> Absolutely, take a look at our product, CollagistPro. You can find more information on this and other products at http://www.smartsoft.com/ In article <951122101252.562AAFEF.sumair@pune> macro@cisnet.com writes: > Can anyone recommend software to link separate postscript files so that they > become one document, e.g. linking a document from WriteUp with a document > from Diagrom so that they may be faxed as one document? I've heard of > PageChain, but have not used it. Is there anything available that's > downloadable for free? > > Your help is greatly appreciated! > > Sumair > MIME/NeXT mail <macro@cisnet.com> -- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. N70 W6340 Bridge Rd. Cedarburg, WI 53012 vox: 414 3764590
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to read .au & .wav, etc. sound files Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 17:19:24 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951208171814.1567B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4a6uvm$g78@ns2.pb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4a6uvm$g78@ns2.pb.net> On 7 Dec 1995 bsantini@pb.net wrote: > Does anyone know how to guide this novice to playing .au &.wav, etc, sound > files from the www? ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.3.NIH.b.tar.gz GISO=Garbage in/Sound Out TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) mail sent to: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu is forwarded to above address. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: bsantini@pb.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with addresses Date: 7 Dec 1995 13:55:14 GMT Organization: Long Island Internet HQ/Point Blank BBS LTD. Message-ID: <4a6ro2$fa3@ns2.pb.net> When I try to creat new address groups in my private address area (~/me/Library/addresses/example.addresses), they icon as a group, but they are really an individual address, and trying to copy or move other addresses into these new "group address folders" causes all the addresses moved to completely vanish, and are unrecoverable. Any ideas? Thanks for you help. Barry Santini bsantini@pb.net
From: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: am (answering machine) and ZyXEL ELITE? (where's Jolly???) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 11:03:28 -0500 Organization: University of Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <magnan-0812951103360001@10.0.2.15> References: <4a1uvo$etq@alf.uib.no> In article <4a1uvo$etq@alf.uib.no>, edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) wrote: > am v.1.16, Elite rom v.1.06. It manages to answer the phone but never gets > any farther . I've emailed both Axel and Jolly - mail bounces. > > Who is maintaining this code these days? It's one of the programs > I use most. > > Pleases email replies. > > Regards, > --- > -- > Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life > NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... > University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors > Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail) I am not maintaining the code but I did some changes to it so it would work with the Elite series. I can send you the source if you want. Francois Magnan -- Francois Magnan magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Malte Tancred Subject: NeXT and MUDS Message-ID: <DJ9o8F.K0@oops.se> Keywords: nextstep, NeXT, mud Sender: usenet@oops.se Organization: OOPS art, HB Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 12:05:03 GMT Hi, How many among you NeXT dudes are mudding? Just curious. :) Regards, Malte -- Malte Tancred OOPS art HB
From: asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad Alrasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI DAT Tape on NS3.3 Date: 9 Dec 1995 08:57:54 GMT Organization: International Turnkey Systems Message-ID: <4abj2i$1s@dns.itsq8.com> I started playing with NS3.3 2 days ago. Kina like it. I have a DAT tape on my machine that worked with Linux, SCO, and UnixWare. I did not see any reference on tape on NS Help. Any idea. Thanx.
From: stevem@RADium.ca (Stephen MacDougall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep Date: 8 Dec 1995 19:03:37 GMT Organization: ftn Internet Message-ID: <4aa26a$a3u@master.ftn.net> References: <4a1r1f$1b8p@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> In <4a1r1f$1b8p@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Frank Knobloch wrote: > Hi! > > The only thing i want to know is: Is it possible to get an OpenStep-Beta Release for > Windows NT? > > We (University of Kassel) developed some applications under NeXTSTEP and we want to > test it with OpenStep for NT. > > We would like to get more Informatione of OpenStep > > Please let us know > > Thanks > > Frank > Check out http://www.next.com In the section concerning Openstep, they address this and other related issues. -- ==================================================== Stephen MacDougall RADium Technology Centre (Canada) stevem@RADium.ca NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted ====================================================
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep PowerPC Port???? Date: 9 Dec 1995 04:12:31 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ab2bf$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4aacvc$s5q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> zan660@aol.com (Zan660) wrote: > Is NeXT planning a port to the PReP or CHrP platforms or the > Power Mac platforms? It seems like a great idea. There is no chance that NeXTSTEP will appear for PReP or the current PowerMac hardware. Many people would like to think that it might happen once CHRP is real, and once Apple is shipping CHRP hardware. NeXT has made no promises or commitments. One would expect that someone (IBM, Apple, or Motorola) would need to cough up a few dollars to convince NeXT to do the work on a PowerPC version. NeXT has already done a fair amount of work for PowerPC, which is why people think it just might happen anyway. My feeling? I want it to happen, but for anyone making some kind of decision *today* that depends on the answer to this question, I would recommend you assume it will not happen. (unless, of course, *you* have the money to pay for a port!). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 9 Dec 1995 05:02:37 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app > > so that the text of message I reply to is quoted? In help > > there's nothing about it. > > TickleServices comes with a service to do this, although the > details escape me right now, since its been a while since I've > accessed the net through my NeXT. I prefer using TickleServices for this. Besides the many other useful things that TickleServices does, you get an assortment of useful email-quoting services which are available in any application which is using a text window (including usenet readers, as one obvious example!). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 9 Dec 1995 04:38:41 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ab3sh$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <30C75918.5672@imonics.com> Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com> wrote: > Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can > print labels? There used to be a commercial program called MindOverMail which had all kinds of options for printing labels, envelopes, etc. I'm not sure if that's still around. There's a shareware application called Phone.app which is great for keeping people's names and addresses. I'm not sure if that has any capability for printing labels (I haven't tried it for that, as I never have had to print up labels for any kind of mailing...). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA ated bug in NeXTSTEP which is making it painful to run as it gets more popular (and thus, larger -- the lily process at RPI is currently using up about 27meg of virtual memory). More information on lily should be available at http://www.lily.org/ For those interested in MUD's per se, note that lily is closer to IRC than to the standard MUD's that people think of as MUD's. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend 1.4.1 submitted to orst Date: 9 Dec 1995 08:34:35 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4abhmr$qk1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4aa4an$hmq@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) wrote: > Hi. I put an update to Fiend 1.4 on orst a couple of days ago. > A more complete announcement is in the file Fiend1.4.1.README, > also in the submissions directory. For those who like single-architecture binaries, this is also now available inside: ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/utils/Fiend_f/ which is a directory that has four single-architecture archives as well as the quad-fat one. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: pickett@blumlein.music.indiana.edu (David Pickett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 9 Dec 1995 19:52:03 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <4acpd3$l95@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> In <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: > > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app > > > so that the text of message I reply to is quoted? In help > > > there's nothing about it. > > > > TickleServices comes with a service to do this, although the > > details escape me right now, since its been a while since I've > > accessed the net through my NeXT. > > I prefer using TickleServices for this. Besides the many other > useful things that TickleServices does, you get an assortment of > useful email-quoting services which are available in any application > which is using a text window (including usenet readers, as one > obvious example!). > > --- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > Where can I find TickleServices, please? david -- Dr David A Pickett Director of Recording Arts Indiana University School of Music Bloomington IN 47405 EMAIL PICKETT@BLUMLEIN.MUSIC.INDIANA.EDU FAX +1-812-332-9233 WWW http://www.music.indiana.edu/som/audio/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to find TickleServices (was Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) ) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 15:30:45 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951209152825.2794A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> <4acpd3$l95@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4acpd3$l95@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> On 9 Dec 1995, David Pickett wrote: > > Where can I find TickleServices, please? > check peanuts ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/services/TickleServices.1.11.NIHS.b.tar.gz or you could try ftp://ftp.winternet/~shess it might be there too... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) mail sent to: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu is forwarded to above address. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question."
From: peterson@abu.mgh.harvard.edu (William J. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.2 with adaptec 1542cf Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 10:28:57 -0500 Organization: Mass General Hospital Message-ID: <peterson-1012951028570001@dd06-023.compuserve.com> I am trying to install 3.2 and an error "thread wait for interupt:returns -735" i believe this is due to a setting in the 1542cf does anyone know the exact bios config for the 1542cf assuming 2 gig HD thanks bill peterson peterson@abu.mgh.harvard.edu
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to read .au & .wav, etc. sound files Date: 10 Dec 1995 19:16:32 GMT Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <4afbmg$6n6@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <4a6uvm$g78@ns2.pb.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951208171814.1567B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >On 7 Dec 1995 bsantini@pb.net wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to guide this novice to playing .au &.wav, etc, sound >> files from the www? > >ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.3.NIH.b.tar.gz > >GISO=Garbage in/Sound Out au and .snd are actually the same format, so just rename any .au files to .snd and they'll run just fine through SoundPlayer.app. Stefano
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 10 Dec 1995 22:33:44 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <4afn88$69k@chinx4.thoughtport.COM> Just a quick comment on label printing with Stay In Touch and SBook. Both have lots of canned label formats and both support custom label formats. Unfortunately, the last version of SBook that I used reliably crashed after creating a custom format. Stay In Touch handled custom formats well, and ended up being the one that my client purchased. Tim --- Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies, Inc. (e) treed@gun.com (MSN) timothy_reed@msn.com (C$) 102570,1070@compuserve.com "Written documentation is an admission of failure." On 12/08/95, Stefano Pagiola wrote: >Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com> wrote: >>Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can >>print labels? >Many can, depending on what kind of label you're looking for. For mailing labels, >try StayInTouch or SBook; both have label printing features and templates for >standard Avery label formats (you can also design your own). -- Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies, Inc. (e) treed@gun.com (MSN) timothy_reed@msn.com (C$) 102570,1070@compuserve.com "Written documentation is an admission of failure."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 11 Dec 1995 05:15:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4ageot$9sd@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: 11 Dec 1995 06:44:23 GMT Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Distribution: na Message-ID: <4agk07$3u0@agate.berkeley.edu> I'd like emacs.app to read my *.gap files when I double click on them. Any way to do that? Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: aslater@jocko.bri.hp.com (Al Slater) Subject: Re: Plan 9, is it out there? (Was: Re: NetBSD or Linux on a NeXT Workstation?) Sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User) Message-ID: <DJEz1I.F7z@bri.hp.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:46:29 GMT References: <49ki5f$eun@cerberus.wsc.com> <49ok02$dq9@news.next.com> <DJ2rqA.9oA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4a1gm9$7g9@papoose.quick.com> <4a7qdp$dj2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Colin Eric Johnson (colinj@us.itd.umich.edu) wrote: : In article <4a1gm9$7g9@papoose.quick.com>, : James E. Quick <jq@papoose.quick.com> wrote: : > : >A full source port, with binaries to get you started, is available : >on CD. Get more information on it at : > http://plan9.att.com/plan9/distrib.html : > : Is the Plan 9 site still up and running? My attempts to look : at anything at the site, "Host Unreachable." What's up? You might like to try : http://achille.research.att.com/ cheers, al
From: gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: new page in Edit.app Date: 11 Dec 1995 08:32:29 +1100 Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney, +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis Message-ID: <4afjld$7jd@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Is there anyway to insert a page break in a document with the standard Edit.app. I have looked in all the manuals and cannot find a way to do this. I have a .tiff file which I wanted to print on a page by itself after the text but could not find a way to ensure that a page break was inserted just before it. Any suggestions. Thanks, Greg Shaw.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Message-ID: <DJB9Lq.B0@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:44:13 GMT In article <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) writes: > > Hello, > > Does the NEXTSTEP driver for the Matrox Millenium graphics card support > the card's real-time 3D and 3D rendering capabilities? If so, how do you > enable it? If not, do you have any idea how to tweak Quick RenderMan to > give you more detail at the expense of performance? > We have one of these cards in the machine that is used to work on the GNU 3DKit project. So we will look into the possible ways of how to integrate 3D hardware into the 3DKit....but this does not mean QRMan! The 3D interface for the MAtrox card is not public (you need some strange Non-DA ) and since I don't knwo how QRMan works internally it is hard to guess if both would fit togethers. Since I have the strange feeling most 3D hardware will be oriented after the OpenGL requirements it might be more intersting to see a good OpenGL lib for NeXTSTEP...which could happen in the near future too (check out our Web pages at: http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~tsengel/G3DKit/G3DKit.html ) Aloha Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach Germany
From: friedric@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de (Carsten Friedrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Getting ` in terminal Date: 11 Dec 1995 13:18:11 GMT Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Passau, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> Hi, I tried and failed to get the "`" character in a terminal shell window (I tried running csh and zsh). As this Character ist very usefull sometimes, I wonder if I didn't get the trick, or if it is just impossible. greetings, carsten --
Carsten Friedrich friedric@fmi.uni-passau.de "I have the impression that, to penguins, man is just another penguin -- different, less predictable, occasionally violent, but tolerable company when he sits still and minds his own business." (B. Stonehouse)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:44:21 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4agk07$3u0@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4agk07$3u0@agate.berkeley.edu> On 11 Dec 1995, Paul Robert Brown wrote: > > I'd like emacs.app to read my *.gap files when I double click on them. > Any way to do that? several. well, at least 2 easy ones. 1) Select ONE .gap file in the File Viewer and do command-3. You'll get an icon listing (which you can only see 3 at a time) of all the apps which NeXTStep thinks can open that app. If Emacs appears there (it isn't when I try this on my system) then you can select that and then set it as default. 2) you can change Emacs.app to be your default open app by a dwrite which is: dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs (I'm 90% sure that's the right syntax) There is another way, something about using segedit to hack at the code, but that's not something I'm familiar with. -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu PLEASE! NO NeXTMail except when needed for attachments. MIME preferred as I am using PINE to read my mail.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new page in Edit.app Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:47:03 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211084453.10736C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4afjld$7jd@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4afjld$7jd@godzilla.zeta.org.au> I've heard this talked about before, but I don't think anyone has found a way. There was some mention of some escape sequence inserted in 'vi' but I'm not sure if it actually worked. I'd have to say 'no' though... -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu PLEASE! NO NeXTMail except when needed for attachments. MIME preferred as I am using PINE to read my mail.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Date: 11 Dec 1995 16:05:32 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ahksc$6fi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> In article <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu>, Eskandar Ensafi <esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu> wrote: > >Hello, > >Does the NEXTSTEP driver for the Matrox Millenium graphics card support >the card's real-time 3D and 3D rendering capabilities? If so, how do you >enable it? If not, do you have any idea how to tweak Quick RenderMan to >give you more detail at the expense of performance? > >It really annoys me when the Chair.rib example gives me a black image as >I rotate it in 3View. Yes, that's right -- I get no interactive rotation >until I stop dragging and release the mouse with this particular image, >on a 133 MHz Pentium with 32 MB RAM and 4 MB VRAM (actually WRAM on the >Matrox Millenium). > >It would be nice to be able to rotate images similar to Elephant.rib, in >surface mode, with more detail than currently allowed by Quick RenderMan. >I don;t care if it's not really quick at doing it -- I just want to be >able to do it! > As far as I know, no you can't. NEXTSTEP treats all video cards as linear frame buffers, and cannot take advantage of any hardware acceleration, 2D or 3D. This is the reason why Windows'95+PlusPack gives much smoother real-time dragging and scrolling than NEXTSTEP. (The fact that Windows'95 is utter garbage deep down is another thing...) In fact, the Millennium hardware 3D acceleration currently only works for Windows for Workgroups 3.11; not for Windows'95 until Microsoft releases the Direct3D and DirectDraw specs. Check out the RenderWare demo for Windows 3.11. This demo is pretty impressive, though I really don't notice much difference with hardware 3D acceleration compared to software accel. on my Pentium 133 system. Compared to some of the 3D software available for Windows, interactive renderman in its current state is pretty poor. Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Message-ID: <DJFKCu.L7I@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com Organization: Insignia Solutions plc References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 16:26:54 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: > On 11 Dec 1995, Paul Robert Brown wrote: > > > > > I'd like emacs.app to read my *.gap files when I double click on them. > > Any way to do that? > > several. well, at least 2 easy ones. > > 1) Select ONE .gap file in the File Viewer and do command-3. You'll get > an icon listing (which you can only see 3 at a time) of all the apps > which NeXTStep thinks can open that app. If Emacs appears there (it > isn't when I try this on my system) then you can select that and then set > it as default. > > 2) you can change Emacs.app to be your default open app by a dwrite which is: > dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs > (I'm 90% sure that's the right syntax) > > There is another way, something about using segedit to hack at the code, > but that's not something I'm familiar with. > if you run segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract /tmp/file You should get a dump of the relevant segement. If you edit this, and stuff it back in then solution #1 above should become available. Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: Re: How to read .au & .wav, etc. sound files Message-ID: <DJFMB3.36o@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951208171814.1567B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:09:02 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951208171814.1567B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: > On 7 Dec 1995 bsantini@pb.net wrote: > > > Does anyone know how to guide this novice to playing .au &.wav, etc, sound > > files from the www? > > ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.3.NI H.b.tar.gz > > GISO=Garbage in/Sound Out > TjL > > -- > Timothy J. Luoma > luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) > mail sent to: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu is forwarded to above address. > "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." I'd like to point out that GISO (well sox actually) doesn't convert the .wav's from Windows95. Someone found a workaround? -- Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome, MIME Tolerated School of Optometry | http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~mario University of Waterloo | Waterloo, Ontario | "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Canada, N2L 3G1 | -- Bill Gates '81
From: thibault@csfac.uwlax.edu (Henry Thibault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ?How to configure Transsys SLIP software v. 920904 on a black box Date: 9 Dec 1995 05:31:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ab6vq$hfm@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> This is posted for a friend who can't hook his NeXT to the world but he can do email, so please respond directly to him at the addresses given below, NOT the reply address of this posting. thx ht ========================================================= I am trying to configure the Transsys SLIP software v. 920904 on a black box, but on startup, when installing local services the system hangs. The following error messages were in the log file: Nov 25 17:12:25 rumah tcldiald[2768]: Can't open "/dev/dialup0", another diald process may still be running Nov 25 17:12:25 rumah tcldiald[2768]: Can't open "/dev/dialup0", Device busy Don't know what would cause another diald to be running or how to have it perhaps try another device, like /dev/dialup1. Anyone who's encountered similar problems or knows a direction to look for a solution, please email me direct at the address below. --- Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program
From: cayouett@bnr.ca (Daniel Cayouette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any EOF Ingres adaptors? Date: 11 Dec 1995 18:22:42 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Message-ID: <4ahsti$fp2@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca> References: <4a569e$oud@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca> After calling NeXT, they said that a third-party is working on one although they can't name the source. And they can't say when it will be out ............. I've had email from some saying that this would be impossible because Ingres doesn't support embedded sql unless CA/Ingres changes something. Daniel In article <4a569e$oud@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca>, Daniel Cayouette <cayouett@bnr.ca> wrote: > I know that EOF comes with Oracle and Sybase adaptors. Is there an >Ingres one? > > >Thanks, > >Daniel > -- Daniel Cayouette Bell Northern Research Ottawa, Ontario Daniel.Cayouette@bnr.ca
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: When is the next Object World in San Fran?? Date: 11 Dec 1995 21:16:27 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <4ai73b$2i45@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - Trying to plan ahead with my agency. When is the next Object World in San Francisco? An advance draft of the agenda would be nice too. Rich
From: bmw@leia.eric.on.ca (Bruce Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You fool! Date: 11 Dec 1995 20:33:42 -0500 Organization: Visible Genetics Inc. Message-ID: <4aim5m$2tr@leia.eric.on.ca> References: <199512070540.AAA25516@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Summary: Night of the living dead in your NeXT In article <199512070540.AAA25516@slate.cs.rochester.edu>, Eric K. Ringger <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> wrote: > > % strings /sdmach | grep -ni fool And try... % strings /sdmach | egrep 'abuse|walks' -- Bruce M. Walker | Visible Genetics Inc. | bmw@visgen.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Mail.app - more that two extra headers? In-Reply-To: Borek Lupomesky's message of 7 Dec 1995 18:19:25 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec11224346@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4a7b7d$49p@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:43:46 GMT Yes, you can change the From header using the preference. I don't think you can have more than two headers. You can try playing with the defaults: dwrite Mail UserKey3 xxxxx dwrite Mail UserValue3 yyyyy dwrite Mail UserKey4 xxxxx dwrite Mail UserValue4 yyyyy and so on. I haven't tested this so I don't know if it will work. The new sendmail 8.7.3 may provide you with some of the flexibility you are looking for. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4a7b7d$49p@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Borek Lupomesky writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45786 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.ACO.net!aci.cvut.cz!news.felk.cvut.cz!news From: Borek Lupomesky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 7 Dec 1995 18:19:25 GMT Organization: Czech Technical University Lines: 17 Distribution: world Reply-To: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.108.171.134 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) v0.7 Beta Hi all! How can I set-up more than two outgoing headers in prefs panel? Can I change value for 'From:' field? Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BOREK LUPOMESKY, student University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ PGP and NeXT mail welcome, key available via finger =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using NeXT as print server with win95 machine (and other newbie questions) Date: 11 Dec 95 22:25:30 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.95Dec11222530@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <49j9it$4vk@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <49m6q8$ev6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <49u7ju$c5q@shellx.best.com> <4a0s01$ijj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <1995Dec6.091813.12993@proximus.north.de> In-reply-to: gemoe@proximus.north.de's message of Wed, 6 Dec 1995 09:18:13 GMT You can also run Samba on your NeXT box and print PostScript from the Win95 box. This has the added benefit of letting you mount NeXT directories on Win95... -- Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:59:27 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211215747.18808D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <DJFKCu.L7I@isltd.insignia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <DJFKCu.L7I@isltd.insignia.com> > > > > if you run > > segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract /tmp/file > > You should get a dump of the relevant segement. If you edit this, and > stuff it back in then solution #1 above should become available. myprompt> segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract /tmp/file segedit: missing arguments to -extract option Usage: segedit <input file> [-extract <segname> <sectname> <filename>] ... [[-replace <segname> <sectname> <filename>] ... -output <filename>] myprompt> and then how does one 'stuff it back in'? I've read the man page, but really don't want to screw up Emacs if I can help it ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unix cut command ?????? Date: 12 Dec 1995 05:48:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> I am wondering if there may be a Unix cut command for NeXT? I am working with some simple fix field length files. one has 3 fields (1)- has 5 alpha characters (2)- has 3 numeric and (3) - has 5 numeric. (A short example is below) All of these fields are joined together in the file. Is there an way to seperate theses fields for a viewable output ?? I could use cut but NeXT doesn't seem to have that command. I've been trying combinations of awk and sed with no success. (I'm still learning unix and have a long ways to go) Thanks for any help. E-Mail replies are prefered but not neccesary. Here's the example: What I have .... ABCDE12312345 FGHIJ45645678 What I want to output ... ABCDE 123 12345 FGHIJ 456 45678 Mo USMC "Semper Fi" <====}=+
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Getting ` in terminal Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 02:13:34 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212021128.19353A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> On 11 Dec 1995, Carsten Friedrich wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried and failed to get the "`" character in a terminal shell window > (I tried running csh and zsh). As this Character ist very usefull > sometimes, I wonder if I didn't get the trick, or if it is just > impossible. > I don't know what you meant by 'failed to get the ` character in a terminal shell window' you obviously know where the ` key is on your keyboard, since you used it in your post. Can you clarify? -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: dvorak (sp?) keymapping Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 02:26:33 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212022416.19353C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thought I once saw a dvorak (sp?) keymapping file floating around one of the NeXT FTP sites (I'm guessing it was the one which doesn't exist any more (sonata.cc.purdue.edu). Having just learned what this is, I'd like to try it out and see how I like it. Does anyone have a copy of it around, or should I start putting my own together? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^) seem to find it and I don't use it any more, although I did for a long time. > > dwrite Mail UserKey3 xxxxx > dwrite Mail UserValue3 yyyyy > > dwrite Mail UserKey4 xxxxx > dwrite Mail UserValue4 yyyyy > > and so on. I haven't tested this so I don't know if it will work. The new > sendmail 8.7.3 may provide you with some of the flexibility you are looking > for. > I did test that (adding more dwrites) and it didn't seem to work for me. However, if you still want to do it, you can. Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote a little thing called 'sendmail-addheader' which is part of the most excellent mailapp utilities package he put together: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/nextUnix/mail/mailapp- utilities.1.3.s.tar.gz this will add the headers which are found in ~/.add-header to all your outgoing mail. Check the readme for more information. -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Win95 partition in NS File Viewer no longer just working Date: 11 Dec 1995 14:46:21 -0600 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Message-ID: <4ai5at$7ht@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> Being somewhat new to Windows I thought I'd ask to see if anyone else with NEXTSTEP and Windows 95 setup up as a dual-boot system knows about this problem: The Windows partition shows up in the File Viewer, but of course I don't get the long file names -- I get a DOS-eyed view of the filesystem. The strange thing is that the WINDOWS directory itself shows up as a file of zero bytes. There are some long file name directories that I have made that show up in the normal truncated fashion. I was hoping to back up this partition from NEXTSTEP but it looks like that might not happen now. any suggestions, short of buying a Windoze backup app? Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Message-ID: <DJH0oH.186@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com Organization: Insignia Solutions plc References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211215747.18808D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:17:04 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211215747.18808D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes: > > > > > > > if you run > > > > segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract /tmp/file > > > > You should get a dump of the relevant segement. If you edit this, and > > stuff it back in then solution #1 above should become available. > > myprompt> segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract /tmp/file > segedit: missing arguments to -extract option > Usage: segedit <input file> [-extract <segname> <sectname> <filename>] .. > [[-replace <segname> <sectname> <filename>] ... -output <filename>] > myprompt> > Ooops typo - I tested this, got the command line right, then typed it in wrongly. It should be: segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -extract __ICON __header tmpfile edit tmpfile, then segedit /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs -replace __ICON __header tmpfile I haven't tried putting a segement back in. You should probably take a copy of any App before you try this. Ian
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unix cut command ?????? Date: 12 Dec 1995 14:33:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4ak3r3$o3l@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Maurice M DeFino (moo@ix.netcom.com) wrote: [...] : Here's the example: : What I have .... : ABCDE12312345 : FGHIJ45645678 : What I want to output ... : ABCDE 123 12345 : FGHIJ 456 45678 awk '{ print substr($0,1,5)," ",substr($0,6,3)," ",substr($0,9,5) }' filename -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o( nicht weisst Fon: +49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 \ | / was Du tust, D2: +49 172 3900348 \~/ mach's mit Eleganz!"
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Getting ` in terminal Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 12:20:44 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212121601.20646A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212021128.19353A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <199512121134.MAA09803@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199512121134.MAA09803@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Carsten Friedrich wrote: > > I know where the key is on my keyboard and I can use it in any > application except the Terminal.app. Depending on the shell I get > nothing or any character but not ` :(. Very strange.. > > I noticed that some applications have the feature that ` is not > printed until the next character is pressed, but this trick does not > work for Terminal. I don't know if I'd call this a 'feature' or not, but... > > Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I use a German keyboard > and German language setting. But on the other hand it is NeXT Step which > has the best foreign language support of any unix system I know ... > Hmm.. it would seem that might be the case, but why Terminal.app and no others? Have you tried Stuart? The only 2 suggestions I have are 1) try remapping the ` key to another key (like shift-enter or something) and see if that works and 2) try a different language and see if that works {and 3) try a different keyboard, if you have access to one} That should give you an idea of where the problem is, maybe. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: marlow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:55:46 GMT Organization: Black Fish Soft Message-ID: <4akj1k$krp@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> <DJB9Lq.B0@shinto.nbg.sub.org> >We have one of these cards in the machine that is used to work on the GNU >3DKit project. So we will look into the possible ways of how to integrate >3D hardware into the 3DKit....but this does not mean QRMan! That is something I don't get.. "How will this impact to current 3 D apps like 3D Reality and SolidThinking?" >The 3D interface for the MAtrox card is not public (you need some strange >Non-DA ) and since I don't knwo how QRMan works internally it is hard to >guess if both would fit togethers. >Since I have the strange feeling most 3D hardware will be oriented after >the OpenGL requirements it might be more intersting to see a good OpenGL >lib for NeXTSTEP...which could happen in the near future too (check out >our Web pages at: >http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~tsengel/G3DKit/G3DKit.html ) The Matrox card speeds up QuickDraw 3D apps or at least the Mac version... Is it me or more low end cards seems to go with QuickDraw while those GLINT cards would go with OpenGL? Then again I think I know there are more QuickDraw 3D cards coming out for the mac than 3d cards coming out for PeeCs Godwin #include <Standard_Disclamer_Blah_Blah_Blah.h> Godwin Membership Affairs Chair of Vancouver Regional Freenet. Chair, Sierra Club (BC) OnLine Services Commitee. It's funny how we feel so much.... cannot say a word... We are screaming inside and can't be heard. - Sarah McLachlan
From: dave james <djames@isl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DB/2 EOF ??? Date: 12 Dec 1995 19:47:56 GMT Organization: Internet Systems Ltd Message-ID: <4akm9c$4vh@bronwyn.isl.com> Hi all, anyone used/heard of a reliable DB/2 eof please? djames@isl.com
From: nextjet@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 21' megapixel with pci macs????? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 16:02:23 +500 Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (800)IDS-1680 Message-ID: <4akql8$bct@paperboy.ids.net> need web address for company that makes pci cards thta allow next monitors to work with powermacs thanks in advance. german gobel.
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unix cut command ?????? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 16:54:39 -0500 Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <jbf-1212951654390001@djatwood.mitre.org> References: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino ) wrote: > I could use cut but NeXT doesn't seem to have that command. As I recall the sources for cut/paste are available in the UNIX archives at ftp.uunet.net, if the archive still exists. Barney
From: joerg@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de (Joerg Henne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unix cut command ?????? Date: 12 Dec 1995 22:14:30 GMT Organization: Maus Boeblingen, Public access BBS & UUCP site, +49 7031 275496 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4akus6$j0b@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de> References: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino ) writes: > I've been trying combinations of awk and sed with no success. Did you try this one? henne|joerg|23:12:10>sed 's/\(.....\)\(...\)\(.....\)/\1 \2 \3/' ABCDE12312345 FGHIJ45645678 ABCDE 123 12345 FGHIJ 456 45678 ^D If things get more complicated I'd recommend perl which lets you do _really_ cool things (not only) with strings... Gruesse Joerg Henne
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "top" for next/i386 Date: 12 Dec 1995 22:42:30 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <4al0gm$qqc@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Anyone seen a "top" for next/i386. I downloaded one from ftp.cs.orst.edu but it compile with error and the module indicate only for next/m68k only. Help needed!! --KAI-- -- Email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca WWW: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Getting ` in terminal Date: 12 Dec 1995 22:25:50 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <4akvhe$qp@jnext.dannug.dk> References: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> In <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> Carsten Friedrich wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried and failed to get the "`" character in a terminal shell window > (I tried running csh and zsh). As this Character ist very usefull > sometimes, I wonder if I didn't get the trick, or if it is just > impossible. > Well, I've remapped my keyboard (with Keyboard.app) so ' and ` are easy to get at. The keycodes are 0x27 and 0x60 respectively. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob & My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob NeXTMail, MIMEMail and SUNMail jacob@dannug.dk
From: jpcurry@unix.amherst.edu (JAMES PRESCOTT CURRY) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: QUIX Mac OS port to Black Boxes: Info Please! Date: 13 Dec 1995 01:02:42 GMT Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA, USA Message-ID: <4al8ni$bot@amhux3.amherst.edu> Can anyone give me information regarding QUIX, and using QUIX to port Mac OS to 68K NeXT boxes? Where do I get it? Any critiques of performance, and most importantly, does QUIX support communications, meaning if I were to Web browser under it over QUIX would it work? Danke. Scott jpcurry@amherst.edu
From: Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:21:09 -0600 Organization: Envision Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> References: <4agk07$3u0@agate.berkeley.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > On 11 Dec 1995, Paul Robert Brown wrote: > > I'd like emacs.app to read my *.gap files when I double click on them. > > Any way to do that? > > several. well, at least 2 easy ones. > > 1) Select ONE .gap file in the File Viewer and do command-3. > > 2) you can change Emacs.app to be your default open app by a dwrite > > There is another way, something about using segedit to hack at the code, > but that's not something I'm familiar with. For anyone who got one of the last copies of OpenWrite, there's a nifty little app in there that encapsulates this segedit thing. All drag-n-drop, etc. Too bad Lighthouse swallowed them up and aren't doing anything with their products. -- Chris Cleeland, chris@envision.com, Envision, Inc. St. Louis, MO USA +1 314 878 4777 / +1 314 878 4775 fax Merkur maintainer, C++ Hack, NeXT enthusiast, soon-to-be dad. <<< This space available for witticisms >>>
From: moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unix cut command ?????? Thanks for all the suggestions Date: 13 Dec 1995 02:15:51 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4ald0n$ft7@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions and help. Mo USMC "Semper Fi" <====}=+ Article: 44892 > I Wrote : >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc >From: moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino )>Subject: Unix cut command ?????? >Date: 12 Dec 1995 05:48:50 GMT >I am wondering if there may be a Unix cut command for NeXT? >I am working with some simple fix field length files. >one has 3 fields (1)- has 5 alpha characters (2)- has 3 numeric and >(3) - has 5 numeric. (A short example is below) All of these fields >are >joined together in the file. >Is there an way to seperate theses fields for a viewable output ?? >I could use cut but NeXT doesn't seem to have that command. >I've been trying combinations of awk and sed with no success. >(I'm still learning unix and have a long ways to go) >Thanks for any help. >E-Mail replies are prefered but not neccesary. >Here's the example: >What I have .... >ABCDE12312345 >FGHIJ45645678 >What I want to output ... >ABCDE 123 12345 >FGHIJ 456 45678 >Mo >USMC "Semper Fi" > <====}=+
From: Greg Davis <gdavis@shentel.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 13 Dec 1995 02:41:09 GMT Organization: Shentel Message-ID: <4aleg5$58k@head.globalcom.net> References: <30C75918.5672@imonics.com> <4ab3sh$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu I just purchased Mind Over Mail v3.2, and Brian Odlum, the developer, is alive and well in Oregon. You can contact him at <brian@eyrie.com> . Another very good program for labels was Labelworks from Trillium Software. I believe they are now out of the NeXT business but you might be able to procure the pkg from Dancing Bear.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenWrite LIVES! was....Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: 13 Dec 1995 02:39:35 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <4aled7$1q6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> writes > For anyone who got one of the last copies of OpenWrite, there's > a nifty little app in there that encapsulates this segedit thing. > All drag-n-drop, etc. Too bad Lighthouse swallowed them up and > aren't doing anything with their products. Uh, Chris. You are a couple weeks late with your complaining. Lighthouse announced, I dunno, maybe 2 weeks ago that they would be making OW 2.0 available rsn. OpenWrite LIVES! -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: DB/2 EOF ??? Message-ID: <rfenney-121295205817@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com Organization: FenTek References: <4akm9c$4vh@bronwyn.isl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 04:54:40 GMT In article <4akm9c$4vh@bronwyn.isl.com>, dave james <djames@isl.com> wrote: > Hi all, > anyone used/heard of a reliable DB/2 eof please? > > djames@isl.com I am looking for this as well! Robert
From: marlow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Patch is it possible via CD? Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 07:22:57 GMT Organization: Black Fish Soft Message-ID: <4aluqh$pm4@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hello all , I finally have sometime to download the patch for NS 3.3... I wonder if the Patch is available via CDROM? and how much is it? I looked at the Developer patch size 26MBs!? Darn! Thanks Godwin #include <Standard_Disclamer_Blah_Blah_Blah.h> Godwin Membership Affairs Chair of Vancouver Regional Freenet. Chair, Sierra Club (BC) OnLine Services Commitee. It's funny how we feel so much.... cannot say a word... We are screaming inside and can't be heard. - Sarah McLachlan
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: QUIX Mac OS port to Black Boxes: Info Please! Date: 13 Dec 1995 02:00:02 -0700 Organization: A Big Black Cube Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4am4mi$3f7@nntp3.news.primenet.com> References: <4al8ni$bot@amhux3.amherst.edu> jpcurry@unix.amherst.edu (JAMES PRESCOTT CURRY) wrote: > Can anyone give me information regarding QUIX, and > using QUIX to port Mac OS to 68K NeXT boxes? > > Where do I get it? Any critiques of performance, > and most importantly, does QUIX support communications, > meaning if I were to Web browser under it over > QUIX would it work? > The device in question is the Daydream, you can get it at Opensource http://www.opensource.com (I am not affiliated with them, I just bought one from them). This thing is not an emulator, and the MacOS is not ported. It runs the latest MacOS 7.5.1 (which YOU must supply). It has no compatibility problems or bugs of it's own, at least what I can discern from the MacOS's own bugs... It uses the Black printer, but the US paper settings are slightly off, printing about 2mm too high and 2mm too far to the left of the page, setting margins helps considerably. On B/W systems, it is 4-color grey, on Dimensions, 24-bit color. On Color Stations, it uses a special driver to adjust it to display colors correctly. It's file system uses container files, like SoftPC. It writes a file on your disk the size of the requested Mac filesystem, and NeXT treats it just like a text file. You can additionally format, read, write Mac Partitions on a hard disk (the whole disk must be devoted to the MacOS, however) one advantage of this is that the NextOS can mount the Mac-formatted HD, and it's very convenient, using container files leaves you with only floppies to transfer data back and forth. My ZIP drive handles this problem nicely. As of networking & internet, it runs MacPPP reliably along with Eudora, NewsWatcher, and the Latest Netscape Beta on a 28.8 modem connection at 57600 with hardware flow control. Ethernet is functional as well. Speed is equivalent to a Quadra 900 on a 25Mhz NeXT, it is also compatible with Nitro, Turbo NeXT, and Pyro Accelerators. Price, about $650, am I happy with it? Damn right... -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: Unix cut command ?????? Message-ID: <DJIsuA.L41@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 10:22:58 GMT In article <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> moo@ix.netcom.com(Maurice M DeFino ) writes: > I am wondering if there may be a Unix cut command for NeXT? [...] > Here's the example: > > What I have .... > ABCDE12312345 > FGHIJ45645678 > > What I want to output ... > ABCDE 123 12345 > FGHIJ 456 45678 sed 's/^\(.....\)\(...\)\(.*\)/\1 \2 \3/' Or get GNU textutils (I think), which contains cut (and paste) commands. Warning: NeXT's `paste' command is something entirely different indeed. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "there is no difference between theory and practise, __/ _/_/ at least in theory..." -- Bruce Becker
From: choiyou@kaeri.re.kr (Young-Gil Choi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: To install problem with AHA1542B and NEC 4X CD Date: 13 Dec 1995 13:39:19 GMT Organization: KAERI Message-ID: <4aml27$5ij@news.kreonet.re.kr> I have AHA1542B and NEC 4X Pro CD(external). I tried to install NEXTSTEP3.2. But I encountered an error mesg "SCSI bus resetting..." when I install it. The message was repeated infintely. PLS, help me. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + ~ /| ~ | Young G. Choi + + /__| ~~ | Voice: +82-42-868-2092 + + _______|______ / | FAX : +82-42-861-9315 + + \ + / | e-mail:choiyou@kaeri.re.kr + +++^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: marty@isis.com (Marty Frongillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Used Black Cubes for sale Date: 13 Dec 1995 15:13:41 GMT Organization: Isis Distributed Systems, Inc Sender: marty@sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4amqj5$o68@transfer.stratus.com> My company has >10 black cubes that we would like to sell. They are all running NS 3.2, have 68040 cpu's and 16meg of memory. Last year, these machines were completely overhauled. Is there a used market for these machines? Any information will be appreciated. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@isis.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 490-6765 (Fax)
From: "Edmond Ronald (Gpe genetique)" <eronald> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Howt o network win/linux + next simply Date: 13 Dec 1995 18:17:33 GMT Organization: Acces regional Ile-de-France (Univ. Paris VI/VII) - France Message-ID: <4an5bt$lcp@pinot.ext.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks - I have a PC with win 3.1 & win 95 and linux on it, I'd like to network it to (1) print and (2) share files with my next cube running 3.2. The hardware is complete, but I can't figure out the workings of the software, linux and the next don't see each other, and under windoze I haven't tried - yet. How do I do this SIMPLY ? exactly what software do I install, how ? Thanks for your time Edmund.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gunther@unix-ag.uni-kl.de (Gunther Weber) Subject: Re: Getting ` in terminal Message-ID: <1995Dec13.183631.1876@rhrk.uni-kl.de> Sender: news@rhrk.uni-kl.de Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany References: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212121601.20646A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 18:36:31 GMT : > : > Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I use a German keyboard : > and German language setting. But on the other hand it is NeXT Step which : > has the best foreign language support of any unix system I know ... : > If I m not wrong You have to press Alt-i for ' and Alt-u for ` if You use the German keyboard mapping. The '-key is for getting an accent (sp?) above letters like a... Gunther H. Weber
From: dental!rsanford (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Date: 13 Dec 1995 20:52:05 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4anedl$7o@chinx4.thoughtport.COM> References: <4aleg5$58k@head.globalcom.net> In article <4aleg5$58k@head.globalcom.net> Greg Davis <gdavis@shentel.net> writes: > I just purchased Mind Over Mail v3.2, and Brian Odlum, the > developer, is alive and well in Oregon. You can contact him > at <brian@eyrie.com> . Another very good program for > labels was Labelworks from Trillium Software. I believe > they are now out of the NeXT business but you might be > able to procure the pkg from Dancing Bear. > Mind Over Mail.app; yep - been using it for years and it works like a champ. I went through this label-printing app search awhile ago, and felt things like sBook were too much program and too much money for what I needed (manage clients' mailing lists). Brian has always been helpful. a satisfied user... Rick Sanford Dental Records (tm) dental@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: Getting ` in terminal References: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec11141812@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212021128.19353A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 12:20:27 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec13.122027.3346@proximus.north.de> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212021128.19353A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: On 11 Dec 1995, Carsten Friedrich wrote: Carsten> I tried and failed to get the "`" character in a terminal shell window (I tried running csh and zsh). As this Character ist very usefull sometimes, I wonder if I didn't get the trick, or if it is just impossible. Timothy> I don't know what you meant by 'failed to get the ` character in a terminal shell window' you obviously know where the ` key is on your keyboard, since you used it in your post. Can you clarify? He probably uses a German Keyboard, where the ` and ' keys are accessible through ALT-u and ALT-i respectively. Now Terminal.app and Stuart.app can make use of the ALT-key as ESC-Modifier, which is their default behaviour. Simply do a dwrite Terminal Meta -1 and/or dwrite Stuart Meta 0 and you are set up fine. Gerhard. Timothy> At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^) Congratulation! My best wishes to you -- and him, Gerhard. (becoming a father in 7 months... :-) ) -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: eric.jones@cobe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: What is this game?? (oh no I don't believe it!!) Date: 14 Dec 1995 00:37:38 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Sender: root@cobe.com (root) Message-ID: <4anrki$g8c@news-2.csn.net> Hi, When I was in college, I always played this addictive puzzle game on a NeXT. All I can remember was that it was something like Concentration, and it taunted you a lot by saying, "Oh no I don't believe it." when you would make a mistake. Could someone help jog my memory and help me find this game. (Perhaps it has been ported to Linux...:-)" Thanks, Eric Jones eric.jones@cobe.com --
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: What is this game?? (oh no I don't believe it!!) Date: 14 Dec 1995 01:18:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4anu19$80s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <4anrki$g8c@news-2.csn.net> eric.jones@cobe.com writes: >Hi, >When I was in college, I always played this addictive puzzle >game on a NeXT. All I can remember was that it was something >like Concentration, and it taunted you a lot by saying, "Oh >no I don't believe it." when you would make a mistake. >Could someone help jog my memory and help me find this game. >(Perhaps it has been ported to Linux...:-)" Ah, the famous AcChen.app! A fine game beautifully produced. Try the authors at preuss@sutro.sfsu.edu. Oh, I'm embarassed; gotta get that shareware fee off! -- Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd. P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801 steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: saplaw@ix.netcom.com (Tom Doan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: install practical peripheral modem with nextstep Date: 14 Dec 1995 01:33:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4anuu6$5ui@cloner3.netcom.com> I have been having problem with the installation of an external practical peripheral PM144MT II with my PC running 3.3 NextStep. When I try to send out a fax of multiple pages, it only sends out the first page over and over again. If the first page happen to be the cover page, the cover page will be faxing indefinitely. When I looked at the console, it says retransmission request. Fyi, I do use NxFax software but even they don't know what causes it. If you have comment on how to fix it, please email me at tom@saperstein.com. Thanks tom
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Howt o network win/linux + next simply Date: 14 Dec 1995 02:30:45 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <4ao28l$n0q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4an5bt$lcp@pinot.ext.jussieu.fr> Edmond Ronald (Gpe genetique) (eronald) wrote: : I have a PC with win 3.1 & win 95 and linux on it, I'd like to : network it to (1) print and (2) share files with my next cube running 3.2. : The hardware is complete, but I can't figure out the workings of the : software, linux and the next don't see each other, Because???? You did not configure something apparently. My NeXT and Linux box see each other from the moment they were connected with a piece of a cable and they cross-mount directories, both ways, via NFS. Also my printer is on NeXT; just prints from Linux. : and under windoze : I haven't tried - yet. Likely the simplest way is to compile on NeXT Samba server. From Windoze it will look that some network "shares" showed up (directories and printers). You will just connect them as "network drives". Pieces needed come with 95 (and WfWg). For "pure" 3.1 you will need TCP/IP clients from ftp.microsoft.com. The problem is that they eat DOS memory like hell (there are still better than previous generations). Michal P.S. Your address in news header is not really something usable. Please fix it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: news@utcc.utoronto.ca (News) Subject: Re: To install problem with AHA1542B and NEC 4X CD Message-ID: <DJJzv3.KBB@utcc.utoronto.ca> Organization: UTCC Campus Access Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:52:15 GMT (i) Check whether the terminators on the AHA 1542B have been removed. (ii) Now check the scsi connection in the DOS environment first. (iii use the DOS debug utility to check configuration and connectivity. On 12/13/95, Young-Gil Choi wrote: > I have AHA1542B and NEC 4X Pro CD(external). I tried to install >NEXTSTEP3.2. But I encountered an error mesg "SCSI bus resetting..." >when I install it. The message was repeated infintely. >PLS, help me. > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ >+ ~ /| ~ | Young G. Choi + >+ /__| ~~ | Voice: +82-42-868-2092 + >+ _______|______ / | FAX : +82-42-861-9315 + >+ \ + / | e-mail:choiyou@kaeri.re.kr + >+++^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++ > >
From: robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Unix cut command ?????? Date: 13 Dec 1995 18:28:36 -0800 Organization: x Sender: robert@steffi.accessone.com Message-ID: <e20q8qsyz.fsf@steffi.accessone.com> References: <4aj542$ecf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4akus6$j0b@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de> To: joerg@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de I second the perl recommend and cut can be found in the gnu textutils. -- "Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: What is this game?? (oh no I don't believe it!!) Date: 14 Dec 1995 04:50:18 GMT Organization: University of Arizona Mathematics Department Message-ID: <4aoaea$54c@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> References: <4anrki$g8c@news-2.csn.net> In <4anrki$g8c@news-2.csn.net> eric.jones@cobe.com wrote: > Hi, > > When I was in college, I always played this addictive puzzle > game on a NeXT. All I can remember was that it was something > like Concentration, and it taunted you a lot by saying, "Oh > no I don't believe it." when you would make a mistake. > > Could someone help jog my memory and help me find this game. > (Perhaps it has been ported to Linux...:-)" > > Thanks, > > Eric Jones > eric.jones@cobe.com > > > Though there is a game called Concentration, I think what you really want is AcChen. -- Best Regards Yuwen Cheng P.O. Box 43692 Tucson, AZ 85733 Tel: (520) 881-4314 Fax: (520) 881-4314 ``It is a modem connection. Voice confirms first''
From: Edmund Ronald <eronald@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to network Win/Linux PC and NeXT for printing and filesharing Date: 14 Dec 1995 05:02:11 GMT Organization: Not much. Message-ID: <4aob4j$qk5@sheckley.cnam.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo Folks ! Sorry for this question repost, a previous news setup tasted my email adress, found it good and swallowed it :) I have a PC with win 3.1 & win 95 and linux on it, I'd like to network it to (1) print and (2) share files with my next cube running 3.2. The hardware is complete, but I can't figure out the workings of the software, linux and the next don't see each other, and under windoze I haven't tried - yet. How do I do this SIMPLY ? exactly what software do I install, how ? I know some of you have solved this problem, and I have NO knowledge of networking - having the hardware sit there unused galls me :) Thanks for your time Edmund.
From: "Kai S. Wong" <kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "top" for next/i386 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 02:50:13 -0330 Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951214024847.11981A-100000@plato.ucs.mun.ca> References: <4al0gm$qqc@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <m0tPouz-000IDVC@venus.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <m0tPouz-000IDVC@venus.mcs.com> May I know which module did you use? --KAI-- Email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca WWW: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Font wrote: > > ftp://eecs.nwu.edu/pub/top/top-3.3.tar.gz worked for me. I even got > it to compile fat. > -- > font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. >
From: asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad Alrasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is NIHS? Date: 14 Dec 1995 10:05:27 GMT Organization: International Turnkey Systems Message-ID: <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> I was able to figure out 'MAB' in a file name. But what about NIHS? Bottom line, how do I know if the file I am downloading is binary ready for INTEL? and what is FAT and quad FAT? Thanx.
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NIHS? Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:01:07 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <4ap05j$g2d@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> In article <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad Alrasheedan) writes: > I was able to figure out 'MAB' in a file name. But what about NIHS? > Bottom line, how do I know if the file I am downloading is binary ready > for INTEL? and what is FAT and quad FAT? It might stand for "Not Invented Here Syndrome", which is very popular in the NeXT world. But really it stands for NeXT, Intel, HP, SPARC, which is the same as quad-FAT. FAT means that the binary includes executable code for more than one architecture; quad-FAT that it includes the four architectures officially supported by NeXTSTEP, hence the above. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NIHS? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:36:32 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951214123013.16758D-100000@hphalle0b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> <4ap05j$g2d@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ap05j$g2d@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> On 14 Dec 1995, Paul Lynch wrote: > In article <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad > Alrasheedan) writes: > > I was able to figure out 'MAB' in a file name. But what about NIHS? > > Bottom line, how do I know if the file I am downloading is binary ready > > for INTEL? and what is FAT and quad FAT? > > It might stand for "Not Invented Here Syndrome", which is very popular in > the NeXT world. But really it stands for NeXT, Intel, HP, SPARC, which is > the same as quad-FAT. FAT means that the binary includes executable code > for more than one architecture; quad-FAT that it includes the four > architectures officially supported by NeXTSTEP, hence the above. > :) Correct. To give more detail: We introduced the following naming conventions to the NeXT community for easy identifying files: <filename>.<architecture>.<contents>.<packing> <filename> is the usual name of the file of course. Often followed by a version number <architecture> is a combination of N NeXT I Intel S Sun H HP on which the binary will run. <contents> is a lower-case letter combination, indicating the packages contents (what else :) ) b binary only d data s source <package> is mostly tar.gz meaning, this package was tar'ed and gnuzip'ed. You need to decrunch and untar it before usage. Hope this clarifies a lot of things, Boerny. BTW.: we are currently thinking about naming-conventions for OpenStep compliant programs. Any suggestions? -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: jds@berlin.uni-paderborn.de (John Dieter Stuewe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: To install problem with AHA1542B and NEC 4X CD Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:56:12 GMT Organization: University of Paderborn, Germany Sender: jds@berlin (John Dieter Stuewe) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ap3cs$22l@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <DJJzv3.KBB@utcc.utoronto.ca> In article <DJJzv3.KBB@utcc.utoronto.ca>, news@utcc.utoronto.ca (News) writes: >> >> (i) Check whether the terminators on the AHA 1542B have been removed. >> (ii) Now check the scsi connection in the DOS environment first. >> (iii use the DOS debug utility to check configuration and connectivity. >> >> >> >> On 12/13/95, Young-Gil Choi wrote: >> > I have AHA1542B and NEC 4X Pro CD(external). I tried to install >> >NEXTSTEP3.2. But I encountered an error mesg "SCSI bus resetting..." >> >when I install it. The message was repeated infintely. >> >PLS, help me. >> > I got this same message, when trying to install NeXTSTEP with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller. The reason was not a SCSI problem, but had to do with power management. It seems that power management does not work togehter with SCSI adapters, because the power supply of the SCSI controller is cut off, even if a SCSI device is in use. The solution in this case would be to disable power management in your main boards setup. bye John
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 14 Dec 1995 02:26:40 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ao210$il4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <49v544$3o3@papoose.quick.com> <4a4g4a$r2q@emerald.oz.net> <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> <4acpd3$l95@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> pickett@blumlein.music.indiana.edu (David Pickett) wrote: > In <4ab59d$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: > > > > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app > > > > so that the text of message I reply to is quoted? In help > > > > there's nothing about it. > > > > > > TickleServices comes with a service to do this, although the > > > details escape me right now, since its been a while since > > > I've accessed the net through my NeXT. > > > > I prefer using TickleServices for this. Besides the many other > > useful things that TickleServices does, you get an assortment > > of useful email-quoting services which are available in any > > application which is using a text window (including usenet > > readers, as one obvious example!). > Where can I find TickleServices, please? Try the files: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/next2/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.README ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/next2/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.tar.gz --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: 14 Dec 1995 02:29:31 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ao26b$il4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4agk07$3u0@agate.berkeley.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951211083624.10736B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> wrote: > For anyone who got one of the last copies of OpenWrite, there's > a nifty little app in there that encapsulates this segedit thing. > All drag-n-drop, etc. Too bad Lighthouse swallowed them up and > aren't doing anything with their products. Too bad you're not following comp.sys.next.announce. If you did, you'd know that Lighthouse does indeed intend to release a new version of OpenWrite. I don't know if that will include the little segedit-type app that you're talking about though. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Lincoln Spiteri <lincoln@kieral.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEC CDR-273 installation problems. Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: <30D0479E.1468@kieral.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to install NeXT on my pc but it seems that NeXT and NEC cd roms do not get on very well. I have followed the instructions from next answers for installing next with an ide cd rom to no avail. During installation everything is fine until it gets to the bit where the pc tries to reset the drives. The cd comes up with an error saying packet too large, drq not set status = d1. I have tried both EIDE floppy images with no improvement. I suspect that the NEC drive won't do for next. Has any body have any idea what could be the the problem here? Thanks Lincoln Spiteri.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.sas,comp.sys.next.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc From: Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG (Russell Schulz) Subject: Re: SAS For NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <951214.085015.1M7.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:50:15 -0700 References: <951201143140.23a368bc@ucrac1.ucr.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada "S., James" <JAMES@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU> writes: > SAS was ported to the NeXT, but was frozen at the 6.07 level because tne > NeXT went belly up. um, I think the comp.sys.next.* people would take exception to you saying NeXT went `belly up'. (followups redirected. those reading this via SAS-L probably do not have the ability to follow or even obey redirection notices). -- Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Shad 86c
From: rusk@advis.com (Patrick Dean Rusk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 14 Dec 1995 15:16:53 GMT Organization: Advanced Information Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4apf55$mb0@gate.advis.com> References: <4a4j4k$626@minerva.worldbank.org> For reformatting and quoting mail messages in replies, I prefer to use the Terminal Services feature of Terminal.app. I use the following: Command-] fmt 74 76 wrap to 76 columns Command-> sed "s/^/> /" add angle bracket before each line Command-. cat ~/.signature copy .signature file into buffer. Works just fine, and I don't need any more stuff cluttering my Services menu. I also have other services for compressing and decompressing files in the Workspace using gnuzip, and for changing text to lowercase or uppercase using "tr". --- Patrick Dean Rusk (P) 617.350.8818 x122 Advanced Information Solutions, Inc. (F) 617.350.7696 268 Summer St., 7th Floor (E) rusk@advis.com Boston, MA 02210-1108 (W) http://www.advis.com
From: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:05:58 GMT Organization: Great Basin Internet Services, Reno, NV Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Borek Lupomesky wrote: > Can anyone explain me how can I reply to message in Mail.app so that the >text of message I reply to is quoted? In help there's nothing about it. > Bye Borek depends on which system you're using. There's a freeware program for the 680X0 machine that does that and inserts signature files too.
From: Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "top" for next/i386 Date: 14 Dec 1995 18:35:46 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4apqq2$f00@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <4al0gm$qqc@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <m0tPouz-000IDVC@venus.mcs.com> <Pine.OSF.3.91.951214024847.11981A-100000@plato.ucs.mun.ca> I use the following script as 'top': #!/bin/sh while [ 1 ] ; do clear ; ps aux | head -23 ; sleep 5 ; done ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:56:47 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> On Thu, 14 Dec 1995 terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us wrote: > > depends on which system you're using. There's a freeware program for > the 680X0 machine that does that and inserts signature files too. I'm guessing you are referring to the MailHelper.app? The new EnhanceMail.bundle (as has been said many times now) will do this quite well, although it does require Mail.app3.3 (from NS 3.3) to do so TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: What is this game?? (oh no I don't believe it!!) Date: 14 Dec 1995 21:44:29 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4aq5ru$oip@news.its.com> References: <4anrki$g8c@news-2.csn.net> eric.jones@cobe.com wrote: > When I was in college, I always played this addictive puzzle > game on a NeXT. All I can remember was that it was something > like Concentration, and it taunted you a lot by saying, "Oh > no I don't believe it." when you would make a mistake. AcChen. -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: v932663@si.hhs.nl (Teguh Aji Budiyono) Subject: HELP: Problem starting NextStep ... ????!!!! Message-ID: <DJKpKu.BqF@si.hhs.nl> Sender: news@si.hhs.nl Organization: Sector Informatica, Haagse HogeSchool, the NetherLands Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:07:41 GMT This is my first experience with Nextstep. I got a brand new Pentium PC with Nextstep installed. First time startup .. evrything has gone very good, just like I expected. But the second day, I have a problem. at the beginning (after booting), it stops by "Start automounter..." and doesn't go any further. Can anyone tell me where this problem comes for? Aji Budiyono
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NIHS? Date: 14 Dec 1995 23:56:11 GMT Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <4aqdir$oip@news.its.com> References: <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad Alrasheedan) wrote: > I was able to figure out 'MAB' in a file name. But what about NIHS? (N)eXT, (I)ntel, (H)P-PA RISC, (S)PARC. It refers to the system(s) which that executable will run on. > Bottom line, how do I know if the file I am downloading is binary ready > for INTEL? If it has an 'I' in the appropriate place, this is a good sign. Otherwise, you'll simply have to discover whether it was compiled for Intel yourself. You can do so with the 'file' command, or by trying to run whatever it is. > and what is FAT and quad FAT? "Thin" files are only for one architecture. "FAT" files are "MAB" files; they can run on multiple architectures. "Quad-FAT" refers to a binary with the four currently-supported architectures, ie. "NIHS". -Chuck -- Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc. --------------------------------+--------------------------------------- CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mishelle@thoughtful.com> From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun) Message-ID: <9512142101.AA05644@thoughtful.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:01:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Label printing App for NS 3.2 Bob Lunney <bob.lunney@imonics.com> wrote: <Anybody know of an app that runs under NS 3.2 (black) that can print labels? Thoughtful Software is pleased to offer an app that automatically generates labels, which should meet everyone's needs. And we are certain you'll appreciate how easy it is to uses, and the price! Curious? Read on! Mishelle Baun Thoughtful Software =-=-=-=- HAPPY HOLIDAYS! Free Label Printing Solution from Thoughtful Software: New Version of HyperSensePlayer Includes Many Useful Utilities, Free License Fort Collins, Colorado - December 14, 1995 - Season's Greetings from Thoughtful Software! For everyone who is sending out holiday greetings the old-fashioned way (on paper, with a stamp!) Thoughtful Software wants to help. No, we're not volunteering to lick the stamps, but our Christmas present to the NEXTSTEP community this year is an easy solution to the problem of printing mailing labels. Addresses.sense is a HyperSense address book document which can be used to maintain a list of names and addresses. The address book is included along with the latest version of the HyperSensePlayer application, which is available with a FREE single-user license from the ftp site listed below. The address book application includes features for searching, sorting, and marking selected pages (so "makin' a list and checkin' it twice" is a breeze), as well as a report template which will print mailing labels on standard label forms in a laser printer. A separate HyperSense utility (DataCopier.sense) provides an automated approach to transferring data between HyperSense documents and flat ASCII text file formats. Free Developer Licenses Available! Of course, self-adhesive labels come in many shapes and sizes. If the labels you buy are in a different format than the one supported, just contact Thoughtful Software for a free temporary license to use the full developer version of HyperSense. Using the full application you will have access to the Report Layout panel which makes it easy to change the size and layout of the label format, or to create additional formats as needed. You can add graphics to your labels, too, if you like (maybe a star or wreath would look nice), or choose a fancy font that you have installed. Be creative! The developer version of HyperSense also gives you a chance to examine and modify the SenseTalk scripts that make it all work. And with the free holiday license, your changes will all be saved, so that you can continue to use your own customized address book forever after with the HyperSensePlayer application. The HyperSensePlayer comes with a FREE single-user license, and many FREE sample documents, including Addresses.sense, DataCopier.sense, and many other useful utilities such as ParagraphStore.sense (for managing reusable paragraphs -- handy for composing that holiday letter), DDM.sense (user-friendly Defaults Database Manager application), HyperCalc.sense (innovative calculator that lets you type arithmetic expressions directly into its display) and PasteMaster.sense (multiple-item pasteboard utility). The package is available by ftp at the address shown below, or can be ordered from Thoughtful Software for $10 to cover media and shipping costs. (We accept MasterCard/Visa, and personal checks.) The full development package and temporary license can also be ordered from Thoughtful Software. HyperSensePlayer (including Free single-user license and sample documents): ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/HyperSense/HyperSenseREADME1.00B14 .rtfd.compressed ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/HyperSense/HyperSensePlayer.pkg.1. 00B14.NIHS.b.tar HyperSense (full development version and documentation): ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/HyperSense/HyperSenseApp.pkg.1.00B 14.NIHS.b.tar ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/HyperSense/HyperSenseDocs.pkg.1.00 B14.tar Licenses for the HyperSense developer version are still available for a limited time at 30% off the regular price. For more information, email info@thoughtful.com or write Thoughtful Software, 616 East Locust St. Fort Collins, CO 80524 USA or call 970/221-4596. Thoughtful Software has been dedicated to the creation of tools which unlock the power of NEXTSTEP since 1989. We believe that users of a superior operating environment deserve an equally high standard of excellence in the tools they use. Our aim is to serve that need and keep you singing Jingle Bells all year.
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: dvorak (sp?) keymapping Date: 15 Dec 1995 14:33:31 GMT Organization: Digital Telemedia Inc. Message-ID: <4as0vr$4vo@maceo.emedia.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212022416.19353C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> In <Pine.NXT.3.91.951212022416.19353C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Uncle Tim wrote: > > I thought I once saw a dvorak (sp?) keymapping file floating around one > of the NeXT FTP sites (I'm guessing it was the one which doesn't exist > any more (sonata.cc.purdue.edu). > > Having just learned what this is, I'd like to try it out and see how I > like it. Does anyone have a copy of it around, or should I start putting > my own together? > > thanks > TjL > > It's on the big Green CD. It doesn't work with the ADB keyboard, for some reason.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) Subject: Re: SCSI DAT Tape on NS3.3 Message-ID: <DJHLGr.Ln@cicero.ping.de> Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <4abj2i$1s@dns.itsq8.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:46:03 GMT In article <4abj2i$1s@dns.itsq8.com> asr@dns.itsq8.com (Ahmad Alrasheedan) writes: > I started playing with NS3.3 2 days ago. Kina like it. I have a > DAT tape on my machine that worked with Linux, SCO, and UnixWare. > I did not see any reference on tape on NS Help. > > Any idea. Hi, my Python Archive works perfectly in my Intel Box with 3.3. After installing the drivers for SCSITape it worked plug'n'play. -dirk --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Dirk Olmes Black Box * * dirk@cicero.ping.de NeXT-Club Schwerte * * (NeXT-Mail please) Germany * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com> Message-ID: <9512151805.AA00589@nesteggs.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) From: Michael E Crawford <crawford@nesteggs.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:05:17 -0600 Subject: pony up (was Re: Help: What is this... ...believe it) Albedo: 0.39 As my friend Steven Weintz opined & fessed: >Ah, the famous AcChen.app! A fine game beautifully produced. >Try the authors at preuss@sutro.sfsu.edu. >Oh, I'm embarassed; gotta get that shareware fee off! I use the holiday season as a time to sort through my *Apps folders searching for shareware fees I need to send out, and cleaning out the apps I don't want to pony up for. Makes for a happy year-end for the recipient, looks great on a Schedule C, and cleanses me Karma. Best wishes to all y'all, Michael
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Problem starting NextStep ... ????!!!! Date: 15 Dec 1995 20:32:08 GMT Organization: International Turnkey Systems Message-ID: <4asm08$10h@dns.itsq8.com> References: <DJKpKu.BqF@si.hhs.nl> In article <DJKpKu.BqF@si.hhs.nl> v932663@si.hhs.nl (Teguh Aji Budiyono) writes: > This is my first experience with Nextstep. > I got a brand new Pentium PC with Nextstep installed. > First time startup .. evrything has gone very good, just like > I expected. > But the second day, I have a problem. at the beginning (after booting), > it stops by "Start automounter..." and doesn't go any further. > Can anyone tell me where this problem comes for? > > > Aji Budiyono I got this when I applied my DNS domain name in NIS domain name space by mistake. The machine was waiting for an NIS server and I stopped at the same place.
From: Steve Gemma <sagemma@monolith.bellcore.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Cube Boot error Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:49:40 -0500 Organization: Bell Communications Research Message-ID: <30D071C4.41C67EA6@monolith.bellcore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Every time that I boot up my computer, I get an error message saying: Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100bada And then I am put at the NeXT ROM monitor prompt. At this point I simply type "bsd" and the computer boots up as normal. Any ideas why it does this? I'd appreciate any suggestions. -Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: Howt o network win/linux + next simply References: <4an5bt$lcp@pinot.ext.jussieu.fr> <4ao28l$n0q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 07:10:41 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec15.071041.13780@proximus.north.de> In article <4ao28l$n0q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michal Jaegermann <michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca> wrote: Edmond Ronald (Gpe genetique) (eronald) wrote: Edmond> I have a PC with win 3.1 & win 95 and linux on it, I'd like to network it to (1) print and (2) share files with my next cube running 3.2. [...Linux is UNIX, so it is pretty much clear to me...] Edmond> and under windoze I haven't tried - yet. Michael> Likely the simplest way is to compile on NeXT Samba server. From Windoze it will look that some network "shares" showed up (directories and printers). You will just connect them as "network drives". [...] Well, how about remote mounting the Win95 Filesystem at my NeXT? Is that possible as well? And how about the DAT on my NeXT - can I use it on the windows box as remote tape? (Same goes for my CD) Thanks for info, Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 07:14:52 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: >On Thu, 14 Dec 1995 terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us wrote: > >> >> depends on which system you're using. There's a freeware program for >> the 680X0 machine that does that and inserts signature files too. > >I'm guessing you are referring to the MailHelper.app? > >The new EnhanceMail.bundle (as has been said many times now) will do this >quite well, although it does require Mail.app3.3 (from NS 3.3) to do so But there's one problem with it. If you want to reply to a message and forward (to cite) the original text, the text follows the signature. This is not exactly what I want... Gerhard.
From: kkumpf@whatsoft.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.2 with adaptec 1542cf Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 23:27:34 -0800 Organization: a Digital Internet AlphaServer Site Message-ID: <30D274E6.7422@whatsoft.com> References: <peterson-1012951028570001@dd06-023.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@abu.mgh.harvard.edu> That sounds like the most obvious choice at this point. But Adaptec cards can be funny. It really depends on the chipset on some Adaptecs. The chipsets on one series changed and 3.3 didn't work with them for a while. Any other errors or indications? Kevin J. Kumpf Director of Corporate Marketing WHAT Software, Inc.
From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cp/mv to dos diskette Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 17:13:02 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Distribution: world Message-ID: <951215171302.13176AAFCi.kjt@copper> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951130101644.14273A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <mp.817928233@dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU) quoted: From time to time I have to copy or move files to diskette. Doing so from the commandline gives this error message: "Invalid argument" I reckon this is having a filename (or extension) too long, or not in lower case. mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU) also wrote: I have noticed something similar: editing a DOS ascii-file (which already existed on the diskette) failed to be saved by edit.app, but saving to disk and copying with the Workspace was no problem. I reckon this is because Edit was trying to save a backup file, and "file~" wasn't acceptable. Ken Turner (kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk)
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Howt o network win/linux + next simply Date: 16 Dec 1995 04:15:07 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <4ath4b$fvq@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4an5bt$lcp@pinot.ext.jussieu.fr> <4ao28l$n0q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1995Dec15.071041.13780@proximus.north.de> Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote: : Well, how about remote mounting the Win95 Filesystem at my NeXT? Is that : possible as well? Somebody would have to write loadable files system which allows that. This is not so far fetched. There is one for Linux (ksmbfs) and is heavily based on 'smbclient' code, so porting should be possible (I guess). : And how about the DAT on my NeXT - can I use it on the : windows box as remote tape? (Same goes for my CD) This is not a problem and there are two ways. Samba comes with 'smbclient' which gives ftp-like interface to "shares" posted by clients. In particular there is 'smbtar' script, using 'smbclient', which can 'tar' client directories to a file or a tape (some versions do not like traverse directory trees; easily fixable :-). For '95 and NT there is another, possibly more interesting, option. 'tar' from NT reportedly runs on '95. With that you can post your tape drive as a "share" on a server (this is Unix after all and everything on Unix is a file) and read and write on this share with NT tar. Michal
From: alii@eden.rutgers.edu (Syed Ali) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adaptec SCSI 1522 SCSI host adapterm NEC SCSI external 6x CD_ROM Date: 16 Dec 1995 00:50:53 -0500 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <4atmnt$535@er5.rutgers.edu> Summary: Adaptec SCSI 1522 SCSI host adapterm NEC SCSI external 6x CD_ROM Keywords: Adaptec SCSI 1522 SCSI host adapterm NEC SCSI external 6x CD_ROM Hi. I am trying to install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a gw2000 pentium 60 with 40MB of RAM, EIDE HD, Adaptec SCSI host adapter 1522, NEC SCSI external 6x cd-rom, but am having problems making the boot disk load the SCSI adapter driver. I bought the cd-rom ($600) and adapter ($200) just so that I can install NEXSTEP because my EIDE Mitsumi 4x is not supported. http://www.next.com shows that NEXTSTEP supports Adaptec host adapter series 154xx so I figured 1522 would also be supported. I tried to set my NEC cd-rom with ID 0 and also 6 ( I got this info from the home page of NEXTSTEP) w/o any luck. I downloaded the additional drivers for 3.2 compressed file but I cannot uncompress on my PC running NT since uncompress is a UNIX utitlity. Besides I do not know if the 3.2 additional drivers disk will support the SCSI host adapter I have. ( Adaptec 1522 ) I saw NEXTSTEP running on a SPARC and liked it a lot and would love to be able to install it. Anyone has any clue on how I can install it w/o having to return my NEC and Adaptec SCSI adapter and buying ones that are explicitly listed as supported on the NEXT home page? Thank you for any help! Regards, Syed Ali. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Operator, LCSR-CF, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ.
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: more EnhanceMail (was Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) ) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:04:54 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951215184950.20534A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> [ following is about EnhanceMail's handling of automatically inserting a signature ] > But there's one problem with it. If you want to reply to a message and > forward (to cite) the original text, the text follows the signature. > This is not exactly what I want... This is a strange situation. If you are going to 'reply' to a message, why not click on 'reply'? That will forward the text with your quote-string in front of it (or nothing, if you set your quote string to nothing). If you 'forward' a message, you usually want to just pass a message along, not 'cite' it. PINE also has the .signature on TOP when 'forwarding' and on bottom when 'replying'. This sounds like a preference thing... perhaps this could be a settable function? Something like: dwrite Mail SigOnTopWhenForward yes or dwrite Mail SigOnTopWhenForward no or something like that... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 16 Dec 1995 00:44:54 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <4at4q6$p8r@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <4aplj5$hcs@news.greatbasin.net> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> In article <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de>, Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: > But there's one problem with it. If you want to reply to a message and > forward (to cite) the original text, the text follows the signature. > This is not exactly what I want... Actually that is intentional. If you forward a message (rather than replying to it for which you'd use reply anyway), typically you'd write your accompanying sentence or two, then your signature, then the forwarded message. If you put the signature after the forwarded message, it'd look like you signed (and wrote) the message which you merely forwarded. Carl Edman
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) Date: 16 Dec 1995 05:11:40 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4atkec$jdn@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) writes: > Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote: > >The new EnhanceMail.bundle (as has been said many times now) > >will do this quite well, although it does require Mail.app3.3 > >(from NS 3.3) to do so > > But there's one problem with it. If you want to reply to a > message and forward (to cite) the original text, the text > follows the signature. This is not exactly what I want... I still find the most useful solution to this to be TickleServices.app. It implements a whole bunch of useful services, including one for quoting some selected text. So, you select the text and hit the right menu-item and it's quoted. Or reformatted, so the line-wrapping isn't all screwed up. This way, it's available in all applications that use a text object (such as newsreaders), and isn't limited to some specific version of Mail.app. TickleServices also gives you a way to easily add more services that you write (in TCL, so you'd have to learn a bit of that). TickleServices is one of the most useful apps around for these little utility questions. URL's for the current version of TickleServices are: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/next2/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.tar.gz ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/next2/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.README though really Scott should get out a new version sometime soon, if for no other reason than his email address needs to be updated... TickleServices is sharewhare, not free, but it's well worth the price asked for. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: smj@jhk.com (Scott M. Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Gamma correction of images Date: 16 Dec 1995 22:47:28 GMT Organization: JHK and Associates Message-ID: <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com> I've had problems with images looking too washed out on my NS system when they look OK on a PC or looking too dark on a PC when they're fine under NS. Just recently I discovered this was due to "gamma correction". I discovered my NextStep system has a perfect gamma of 1.0 while the PC at work has a gamma of 1.8. As gamma rises above 1.0, pictures look too dark in the mid-tones. This is different from a contrast correction. I suspect lots of pictures on the Web are gamma-corrected for PC's. What I'd like to know is whether NextStep is doing the gamma correction or if it's the monitor. The NS system is a 486 running 3.3 with an ATI ultra pro (2MB) and a Sony Trinitron 17se. The office PC is running Warp and has an NEC XV15. I'd also like to know if there's any free software for NS 3.3 that changes the gamma of an image. For more info on gamma correction, check out these URLs: http://www.psy.uwa.edu.au/gamma.htm http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/rwb/www/gamma.html http://www.cgsd.com/texture/texture_library.html You can measure your own gamma using the inline graphics displayed on some of these pages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: Hint for Mail.app (quoting) References: <49spkj$koh@ns.felk.cvut.cz> <Pine.NXT.3.91.951214145535.7718A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de> <4at4q6$p8r@cnn.princeton.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 21:23:46 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec16.212346.18048@proximus.north.de> In article <4at4q6$p8r@cnn.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >In article <1995Dec15.071452.13883@proximus.north.de>, >Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote: gemoe> But there's one problem with it. If you want to reply to a message and forward (to cite) the original text, the text follows the signature. This is not exactly what I want... Carl> Actually that is intentional. If you forward a message (rather than replying to it for which you'd use reply anyway), typically you'd write your accompanying sentence or two, then your signature, then the forwarded message. If you put the signature after the forwarded message, it'd look like you signed (and wrote) the message which you merely forwarded. This is perfectly true. But the problem for me was that I did NOT check in the Cite-checkbox in your new preferences panel. So what happened was that I did (of course) a Cmd-R (Reply to message), the signature was filled in but NO original text. I had to manually forward it. Which resulted in it beeing added after the signature. Finally I understood that I have to check the Cite-checkbox with empty fields to have replying work correctly. But then again, I miss a "default" button to restore the regex value... Maybe you should catch the above situation in your code? Gerhard. However, EnhanceMail is really neat... -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) Subject: Re: Howt o network win/linux + next simply References: <4an5bt$lcp@pinot.ext.jussieu.fr> <4ao28l$n0q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1995Dec15.071041.13780@proximus.north.de> <4ath4b$fvq@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 10:23:25 GMT Message-ID: <1995Dec17.102325.19234@proximus.north.de> In article <4ath4b$fvq@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michal Jaegermann <michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca> wrote: Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote: gemoe> Well, how about remote mounting the Win95 Filesystem at my NeXT? Is that possible as well? Michael> Somebody would have to write loadable files system which allows that. This is not so far fetched. There is one for Linux (ksmbfs) and is heavily based on 'smbclient' code, so porting should be possible (I guess). Does anyone know if someone is working on that already? gemoe> And how about the DAT on my NeXT - can I use it on the windows box as remote tape? (Same goes for my CD) Michael> [...smbclient...] Michael> For '95 and NT there is another, possibly more interesting, option. 'tar' from NT reportedly runs on '95. With that you can post your tape drive as a "share" on a server (this is Unix after all and everything on Unix is a file) and read and write on this share with NT tar. This sounds promising. Can I use the Win95 Backup-Utility with the DAT tape attached to my NeXT? Would be tres cool... Gerhard. PS: Maybe a FAQ Windows <-> NEXTSTEP should be put together... :) -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: friedric@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de (Carsten Friedrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS + Adaptec 2940 + Connor 2GB Problem Date: 18 Dec 1995 10:12:25 GMT Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Passau, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <FRIEDRIC.95Dec18111225@bartok.fmi.uni-passau.de> Hi, I have NS, an Adaptec 2940 SCSI contoller, a Connor 2 GB harddisc and face the following Problems: - BuildDisk ist not able to handle this disk and crashes. It also assumes the disk was sd3... instead of /dev/sd2... which all other programs tell me. (e.g. when formated under dos and mounted as dos, or if I access it with the NS disk command or sdformat.) - NS fdisk is not able to handle the disk and tells me about bios problems on my controller, although I set all paramters the way fdisk wants them. - NS ist not able to recognize partitions I created with dos fdisk - dos fdisk is not able to detect partitions I created with NS (disk -p). - The disc seems to work fine when partitioned with dos fdisk and used under dos. Btw: My other harddisc (Quantum 1 GB SCSI) works fine. hope you can help me. thanks in advance, carsten --
Carsten Friedrich friedric@fmi.uni-passau.de "I have the impression that, to penguins, man is just another penguin -- different, less predictable, occasionally violent, but tolerable company when he sits still and minds his own business." (B. Stonehouse)
From: smj@jhk.com (Scott M. Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gamma correction of images Date: 17 Dec 1995 22:31:26 GMT Organization: JHK and Associates Message-ID: <4b25nu$1f8e@stealth.mindspring.com> References: <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com> In <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com>, smj@jhk.com (Scott M. Jones) writes: >I'd also like to know if there's any free software for NS 3.3 that >changes the gamma of an image. Someone suggested to try: >ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/filter/ >McFilter.2.0.NI.bs.tar.gz >it's a FREE preference.app module that does GIF and JPEG correction But I haven't tried it yet.
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP support of Win95 partitions Date: 17 Dec 1995 20:04:37 -0600 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Message-ID: <4b2i7l$ima@tybrin1.hsv.tybrin.com> Apologies if this has been discussed before, but has anyone else had any trouble with Windows 95 partitions within NEXTSTEP? Specifically, trouble when trying to access the partition as Drive D: in SoftPC. I had MS Office installed on the SoftPC .hdf file so that most of the files were on the DOS partition. Now that the partition has been 'upgraded' to a Windows 95 filesystem, access is very quirky. Can anyone recommend an workarounds? Does the latest version of SoftPC (v 4.1, I think) handle the Windows 95 partitions better? thanks, Trey -- Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
From: weber michael <mweber> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FaxModem Driver for LASAT Safire 28800 Requested Date: 18 Dec 1995 13:48:27 GMT Organization: C.I.C.G. , Grenoble Message-ID: <4b3rfb$m8d@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: info@ams.de Hello NeXTWizards I just recently got a nice little modem from LASAT, the Safire 28800 which is supposed send data and fax. Using KERMIT, I managed to send data, but I coudn't get the thing to send a fax. When I try to send a fax the modem connects to the remote fax machine but never sends something and never stops negotiating. It looks like I need a special fax driver for my NeXTStation ( 68040, Black Hardware, NeXTStep 3.0 ) Can anyone make recommendation what to do or where to get a fax driver ? Please send ASCII e-mail to info@ams.de Thank you very much for your help Rainer *********************** rschmid E-MAIL: info@ams.de *********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: smakofs@pcnet.com (Steve Makofsky) Subject: Help! Getting started questions Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <DJr45A.6t4@adra.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: usenet@adra.com Organization: PCNet Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:07:56 GMT Hello.. I've decided to take the plunge and put NextStep on a machine I've been putting together with spare parts.. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the SCSI connection on a Pro-Audio 16 Spectrum will be recognized by NextStep 3.1? Also, does anyone know where I can get 3.3, since I only have 3.1 currently, and Im sure some improvements have been made. Thanks for the help, makofsky@matrixnet.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 18 Dec 1995 05:15:11 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4b2tcv$1i9@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - 188+ ISV company pages - 433+ ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next archives - User Group information - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. 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Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net) Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Problem starting NextStep ... ????!!!! Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 09:47:56 -0800 Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1812950947560001@brea-annex1-p3.dsphere.net> References: <DJKpKu.BqF@si.hhs.nl> <4asm08$10h@dns.itsq8.com> You should be able to get past this by typing control-c when that message comes up. Then you should remove the invalid NIS and/or NFS info you mentioned. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Using DOS partition w/ SoftPC Date: 18 Dec 1995 20:42:41 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <4b4jo1$b62@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I've got a copy of SoftPC 4.01 on some Intel NeXT boxes that I've recently started working with. One of the things this version is supposed to let you do is use an existing DOS partition as another hard drive (i.e. D:/). However, on some of the computers I've tried this on, SoftPC's complained that "The hard disk file is not a valid hard disk (disk geometry incorrect)". This *has* worked on one other computer, so I'm thinking it could be due the way the hard disk was partitioned when these machines were set up (I didn't set any of these machines up, so I don't know how the hard drives were partitioned/formatted). The DOS partitions are mounted and show up fine in the workspace, and are accessible from there, and they'll boot up into DOS just fine, so it could be a SoftPC thing. Anybody else with similar experiences they'd like to share, or suggestions/pointers? I'd like to find some relatively simple answer (as long as it doesn't involve reformatting anything :) ) before I work on convincing anyone to shell out the meagre funds to upgrade to SoftPC 4.1. Many thanks Eugene -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Uncle Tim <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: US mirror to peanuts down? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 02:57:34 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951218025618.25515B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i've been unable to access ftp.dn.net for quite some time... anyone know what's going on? Did the name change and no one tell me? I can't even get a 'ping'... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu At 6:06pm EST on Dec 11, 1995 Nicholas Anthony Aiello (son of my sister and brother-in-law) entered the world 8 pounds, 13oz, making me an uncle for the first time. 8^)
From: Scott WILSON <rswilson@cs.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel ISA Modem with NS 3.3 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:56:50 -0500 Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill U, Montreal Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951218154001.20150A-100000@marge.cs.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having trouble getting my modem to work, can anyone lend some insight on the situation? I'll outline the situation... I'm running a Pentium with a PCI / ISA motherboard. I have the newest (v3.3) serial port driver (one for each port) and Port server dirvers installed. The modem is a MaxTech 28.8 internal (ISA). I know the modem works, I have no problem configuring it on either COM2 or COM3 under windows, but under nextstep it doesn't seem to be identified correctly. When I try to set the line to /dev/cufb in kermit (and tip / cu ) I get a device busy error. (checked the uucp lock files - there isn't one there) I've been playing around with different IRQ and address settings but to no avail. I'm wondering whether the second on-board PCI serial port is conflicting. When I disable it in the bios setup, NS still finds a second 16550 (presumably the one on the modem) , but when I set the modem up for COM3, with the second PCI port on or off, it doesn't find the modem at all. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks, Scott Wilson wilson@music.mcgill.ca McGill Music and Media Technology
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using DOS partition w/ SoftPC Date: 19 Dec 1995 04:40:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <4b5foi$ip1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4b4jo1$b62@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <4b4jo1$b62@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Eugene Mah <eugene@uah.ualberta.ca> wrote: >I've got a copy of SoftPC 4.01 on some Intel NeXT boxes that I've >recently started working with. One of the things this version >is supposed to let you do is use an existing DOS partition >as another hard drive (i.e. D:/). However, on some of the >computers I've tried this on, SoftPC's complained >that "The hard disk file is not a valid hard disk (disk >geometry incorrect)". > >This *has* worked on one other computer, so I'm thinking >it could be due the way the hard disk was partitioned >when these machines were set up (I didn't set any >of these machines up, so I don't know how the hard drives >were partitioned/formatted). The DOS partitions are >mounted and show up fine in the workspace, and >are accessible from there, and they'll boot up into >DOS just fine, so it could be a SoftPC thing. > >Anybody else with similar experiences they'd like >to share, or suggestions/pointers? I'd like >to find some relatively simple answer (as long >as it doesn't involve reformatting anything :) ) >before I work on convincing anyone to shell >out the meagre funds to upgrade to SoftPC 4.1. > In your "AUTOEXEC.BAT" file for starting SoftPC, include a line for each drive that you want to use with the following syntax: net use <DOS_drive_letter>: <NeXT_Directory> Here are some examples from my setup: net use d: /dos_d net use f: ~/Incoming/DOS net use h: ~ These are what SoftPC calls "FSA" drives. By default, the E: drive is automatically used as an FSA drive that you specify in the preferences. In the above example, this assumes that you have the Preference for drive D left blank. I have had problems getting SoftPC to recognize native DOS partitions. Using them as FSA drives works fine. Varun PS - another very useful command under SoftPC is "use_cd", which is a batch file that loads the CD-ROM drivers. You can edit this batch file to assign the CD-ROM to a specific drive letter.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: Intel ISA Modem with NS 3.3 In-Reply-To: Scott WILSON's message of Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec18233123@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951218154001.20150A-100000@marge.cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 04:31:23 GMT Do you need hardware flow control when your modem is on a card? If not, use /dev/cub instead. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.951218154001.20150A-100000@marge.cs.mcgill.ca> Scott WILSON <rswilson@cs.mcgill.ca> writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.hardware:23291 comp.sys.next.misc:45901 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.mcgill.ca!lisa.cs.mcgill.ca!marge.cs.mcgill.ca!rswilson From: Scott WILSON <rswilson@cs.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:56:50 -0500 Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill U, Montreal Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: marge.cs.mcgill.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having trouble getting my modem to work, can anyone lend some insight on the situation? I'll outline the situation... I'm running a Pentium with a PCI / ISA motherboard. I have the newest (v3.3) serial port driver (one for each port) and Port server dirvers installed. The modem is a MaxTech 28.8 internal (ISA). I know the modem works, I have no problem configuring it on either COM2 or COM3 under windows, but under nextstep it doesn't seem to be identified correctly. When I try to set the line to /dev/cufb in kermit (and tip / cu ) I get a device busy error. (checked the uucp lock files - there isn't one there) I've been playing around with different IRQ and address settings but to no avail. I'm wondering whether the second on-board PCI serial port is conflicting. When I disable it in the bios setup, NS still finds a second 16550 (presumably the one on the modem) , but when I set the modem up for COM3, with the second PCI port on or off, it doesn't find the modem at all. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks, Scott Wilson wilson@music.mcgill.ca McGill Music and Media Technology
From: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: UUCP problems..... Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:23:54 GMT Organization: Great Basin Internet Services, Reno, NV Distribution: world Message-ID: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> Trying to get a portable runnign NS 3.3 to log into a NS 3.3 host machine for UUCp purposes. Trouble: Can't get the machines to transfer mail. You get REQUESTs/REQUESTEDs but they're all bounced. NetUser will not create a Uremotemachine either. You can't create a username with a capital (despite what it says in the manual). ANyone with a step-by-step instruction about this please send me one. Many thanks in advance.
From: stevem@RADium.ca (Stephen MacDougall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NIHS? Date: 19 Dec 1995 07:37:44 GMT Organization: ftn Internet Message-ID: <4b5q48$ed1@master.ftn.net> References: <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> In <4aost7$kbr@dns.itsq8.com> Ahmad Alrasheedan wrote: | I was able to figure out 'MAB' in a file name. But what about NIHS? | Bottom line, how do I know if the file I am downloading is binary ready | for INTEL? and what is FAT and quad FAT? | | Thanx. | MAB = Multi-Architecture Binary FAT = Motorola / Intel Binaries quad-FAT = NIHS binaries NIHS = NeXT - Intel - Hewlett Packard - Sparc Any combination of NIHS will tell you which machine(s) the binary is compiled for. Therefore, if you see a file labelled ProgramName.NI.tar.gz, it means that the file is compiled for NeXT and Intel hardware, and ProgramName.NIHS.tar.gz means that the file is quad-FAT, and will run on any of the four supported NeXTSTEP platforms. Hope this helps! -- ==================================================== Stephen MacDougall RADium Technology Centre (Canada) stevem@RADium.ca NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted ====================================================
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Please help: Conner IDE disk not writable?? Date: 19 Dec 1995 14:44:10 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4b6j3q$9ms@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, a friend of mine in France (who is currently off the net due to the strike there) has the following problem: He just bought a Conner IDE disk for his intel-based NeXT. Entered the BIOS params correctly, partitioned the disk under DOS (one DOS partition 200MB, one NS partition 1GB). The new disk is the slave, while the master disk has a DOS and NS partition and works fine for both (DOS/NS). He can use the new Conner disk fine under DOS, up to the full capacity (he also tried to use the full 1.2GB under DOS, no problem), but if he tries to access it under NS, he has big problems: 1) After booting up NS, NS sees the new disk and pops up the "wanna format?" panel. But then errors occur: from the console output: /usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "NS2" -d 594821083 /dev/rhd1a Only using BIOS-accessible sectors disk name: Conner Peripherals 1275 disk type: fixed_rw_ide hdform doesnt exist yet... writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!; I/O error Cannot eject hd1 2) If he tries to use BuildDisk, he basically gets the same error. He is using the new EIDE driver for NS3.3 (yes, he is running NS3.3, no patch). Any help would be greatly appreciated!! thanks, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: colen@teleport.com (Colen Garoutte-Carson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: For sale: 25 Mhz 68040 NeXTstation + color 17" MegaPixel Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 05:44:58 +0100 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <colen-1912950544580001@ip-pdx04-20.teleport.com> For sale : 25Mhz 68040 color NeXTstation 32 megs RAM 400 meg HD keyboard, mouse, speaker (but still running v2.1 of the NeXT OS) 17" MegaPixel color monitor Everything works EXCELLENTLY! BEST OFFER! Please email colen@teleport.com - Colen Garoutte-Carson
From: na199@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TEX Font Problem Ethernet + serial Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:02:00 GMT Organization: Free-Net Erlangen Nuernberg, Germany Message-ID: <4b6nloFfg4@uni-erlangen.de> A short time ago I made an ethernet connection between my NeXTstation and my Lexmark Printer. The Printer has an (expensive) card for this. The installation was without problems - so I thought. After a short while I found out that `p special fonts which I use with TeX will not be printed whenb I use the ethernet connection. There is no problem when I print the same dvi-file via serial connection on the same prtinter. Has anybody any idea which srew sorry screw is s responsible for this behaviour. How can I tell the printer not to print anything if the font is currently not available? And what does dvips to include fonts via serial and not via ethernet? Any advice very welcome. bye Henning PS: one way to get round the round the problem is to tell the ...map-file to include the font always (looks like rmtmi RMTMI 0/ /Fonts/...) which the full name and path given. But first must you know that the font will not print without this and why this is not necessary with the serial connection? -- Henning heinze na199@fim.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ici@qua.crl.melco.co.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Subject: Re: NeXTStep PowerPC Port???? In-Reply-To: Garance A Drosehn's message of 9 Dec 1995 04:12:31 GMT References: <4aacvc$s5q@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4ab2bf$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> Sender: @loamer1.adm.crl.melco.co.jp Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Corp. Hyogo, Japan Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:57:06 GMT Message-ID: <ICI.95Dec19165706@gigue.qua.crl.melco.co.jp> Hi. In article <4ab2bf$hc0@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: zan660@aol.com (Zan660) wrote: > Is NeXT planning a port to the PReP or CHrP platforms or the > Power Mac platforms? It seems like a great idea. Sunsoft announced SolarisNEO for Solaris2.5 and Solaris2.5 supports CHrP. Isn't this enough ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Toshinao Ishii Advanced Technology R&D Center Mitsubishi Electric Corporation e-mail: ici@qua.crl.melco.co.jp (NeXTMail/MIME welcome)
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gamma correction of images Date: 19 Dec 1995 19:21:38 GMT Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <4b73c2$e0i@news.next.com> References: <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com> In article <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com> smj@jhk.com (Scott M. Jones) writes: > What I'd like to know is whether NextStep is doing the gamma > correction or if it's the monitor. The NS system is a 486 running > 3.3 with an ATI ultra pro (2MB) and a Sony Trinitron 17se. The > office PC is running Warp and has an NEC XV15. > > I'd also like to know if there's any free software for NS 3.3 that > changes the gamma of an image. NEXTSTEP does the gamma correction for you by programming the gamma correction into the RAMDAC's hardware palette. For all NeXT color hardware, and other systems that happen to be running in video modes that support a palette, the NeXT DPS extension operator 'setframebuffertransfer' can be used to adjust gamma correction. This allows one to calibrate the display and framebuffer fairly accurately using some of the images you refer to at these URLs: http://www.psy.uwa.edu.au/gamma.htm http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/rwb/www/gamma.html http://www.cgsd.com/texture/texture_library.html The operator allows you to set the framebuffer transfer function kept in DPS shared VM for each display. Here's an example of it's use: % pft Connection to PostScript established. 0 currentframebuffertransfer == {} == {1 2.2 div exp} == {1 2.2 div exp} == {1 2.2 div exp} One can read the current settings without selecting the PostScript shared VM area. In order to write a new set of transfer functions, though, one must first issue a true setshared, so the functions are created in shared VM. true setshared {1 1 div exp} {1 1 div exp} {1 1 div exp} {} 0 setframebuffertransfer {1 2.3 div exp} {1 2.3 div exp} {1 2.3 div exp} {} 0 setframebuffertransfer Note that in Release 3.3 only, the setframebuffertransfer operator will only work for root on non-NeXT hardware. Here's an excerpt from the official documentation on the operator: setframebuffertransfer redproc greenproc blueproc grayproc fbnum setframebuffertransfer Sets the framebuffer transfer functions in effect for the framebuffer indexed by fbnum. fbnum ranges from 0 to countframebuffers - 1. The framebuffer transfer describes the relationship between the framebuffer values of the display, and the voltage produced to drive the monitor. Important: these transfer functions are outside of the domain of PostScript Level 2's imaging model. NeXT's WindowServer assumes that the framebuffer values are directly proportional to screen brightness. This is important for the accuracy of dithering, compositing, and similar calculations. This API is provided only for the purpose of developers developing screen-calibration products. The default transfer for NeXT Color Displays is "{ 1 2.2 div exp } bind dup dup {}". The procedures must be allocated in shared VM. It is possible to make framebuffer transfer functions persist beyond the lifetime of the WindowServer by storing a property in the NetInfo `screens' database. In the local NetInfo domain, /localconfig/screens holds the configuration information for the screens known to the WindowServer (i.e. MegaPixel, NeXTdimension). These specify the layout and activation state of the screen. A new property for 3.0 has been added called `defaultTransfer'. This property can contain a string of PostScript code suitable for execution by the setframebuffertransfer operator (without the fbnum parameter). For example the following represents the NetInfo configuration for a NeXTdimension screen with a default gamma of 2.0. localhost:1# niutil -read . /localconfig/screens/NeXTdimension name: NeXTdimension slot: 2 unit: 0 defaultTransfer: {1 2.0 div exp } dup dup dup bounds: 0 1120 0 832 active: 1 _writers: * The NetInfo `defaultTransfer' property is used to configure the screen each time the WindowServer starts up. This allows monitor calibration products to save their settings so the next time the WindowServer starts up, the new values will be used. Note that in some cases, the NetInfo configuration state for a monitor will not have active == 1, although the monitor is being used by the WindowServer. This is because if no screens are marked `active' in NetInfo, the WindowServer uses a suitable default. If a screen is not marked `active' in NetInfo, the other properties (such as `defaultTransfer') are ignored. So be sure that the screen for which you are adding a `defaultTransfer'entry is marked `active'. Monochrome devices will ignore redproc, greenproc, and blueproc, RGB devices will ignore grayproc. setframebuffertransfer is unsupported on the current generation of NeXT monochrome displays. ERRORS invalidid, stackunderflow, typecheck SEE ALSO setframebuffertransfer, countframebuffers, framebuffer -- I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
From: chris@miles.opensource.com (Chris Miner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Using DOS partition w/ SoftPC Date: 19 Dec 1995 20:52:40 GMT Organization: OpenSource Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <4b78mo$2db@trane.opensource.com> References: <4b4jo1$b62@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Keywords: SoftPC 4.1 disk size DOS partition access In article <4b4jo1$b62@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: [snip] > > This *has* worked on one other computer, so I'm thinking > it could be due the way the hard disk was partitioned > when these machines were set up (I didn't set any [snip] > > Anybody else with similar experiences they'd like > to share, or suggestions/pointers? I'd like > to find some relatively simple answer (as long > as it doesn't involve reformatting anything :) ) > before I work on convincing anyone to shell > out the meagre funds to upgrade to SoftPC 4.1. > [snip] Eugene, Chances are high that the machines which give you the error: "The hard disk file is not a valid hard disk (disk geometry incorrect)" have disks larger than 504 MB. SoftPC 4.1 fixed this problem and now allows direct access to NEXTSTEP MS-DOS partiions on physical drives larger than 504 MB. I have a machine with a 200 MB DOS partion on a 1 GB drive which produced the same error you are seeing under 4.0, but with an install of 4.1 I was able to access the DOS partition as the D drive. SoftPC 4.1 is enhanced in other ways as well. Here are a few of the improvments more immediately noticed: - better bi-directional copy and paste - 8 bit video color supported - better mouse performance in full screen mode If you want to know more about the product, give OpenSource a call at 800.TRY.OPEN we are the dist/reseller for SoftPC 4.1 on NSFIP. Chris Miner Technical Support OpenSource, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Message-ID: <DJt47s.F2@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <4akj1k$krp@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:04:39 GMT In article <4akj1k$krp@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> marlow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Godwin) writes: > That is something I don't get.. "How will this impact to current 3 D > apps like 3D Reality and SolidThinking?" > Ok. now since at least with OpenStep 4.0 we should be able to change system libs (as far as I remember) it shouldn't be too much of a problem in most cases. And since Guido, Andrew, Wave etc. pp. are all part of the G3DKit familiy it shouldn't be hard to get the apps recompiled or what ever. But you are right that it is very unlikely (=impossible) that you will see any speedup for NeXTSTEP 3.3 with old binaries. > > The Matrox card speeds up QuickDraw 3D apps or at least the Mac > version... Is it me or more low end cards seems to go with QuickDraw > while those GLINT cards would go with OpenGL? > > Then again I think I know there are more QuickDraw 3D cards coming out > for the mac than 3d cards coming out for PeeCs Well when I take a look at the last announcments you are quite right. It looks like Apple once more did it better then Intel$oft. Apple has a standard smart hardware API. On PCs every company has to write a OpenGL version on its own...dumb isn't it ? Anyway...lets wait and see. Almost everything is still in flux. Nevertheless I would like to play with a Ri-to-Quickdraw3D idea too :-) So once we have Quickdraw3D for PowerPCs running NT + OpenStep it might become attractive too. Aloha Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: OpenWrite LIVES! was....Re: How to associate extensions with an app? In-Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu's message of 13 Dec 1995 02:39:35 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec20000646@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> <4aled7$1q6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 05:06:46 GMT Maybe they'll fix the GUI so it will be more like WriteUp. OpenWrite has many cool features but suffers from a bulky, confused GUI. For day to day usage, nothing beats AFS WriteUp. WriteUp does lack WP style tables. Hopefully, AFS will fix this. Then, we'll have two cool word processing apps to choose from. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4aled7$1q6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45839 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 13 Dec 1995 02:39:35 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 20 References: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> writes > For anyone who got one of the last copies of OpenWrite, there's > a nifty little app in there that encapsulates this segedit thing. > All drag-n-drop, etc. Too bad Lighthouse swallowed them up and > aren't doing anything with their products. Uh, Chris. You are a couple weeks late with your complaining. Lighthouse announced, I dunno, maybe 2 weeks ago that they would be making OW 2.0 available rsn. OpenWrite LIVES! -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... In-Reply-To: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us's message of Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:23:54 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 05:10:42 GMT The NeXT supplied UUCP is awful. Many sites use GNU Taylor UUCP which works wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. You can get the binary distribution from the archives or compile it yourself. In any case, it's easier to configure, it's faster, more secure, and flexible. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45904 Path: world!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!news.net99.net!news.greatbasin.net!usenet From: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:23:54 GMT Organization: Great Basin Internet Services, Reno, NV Lines: 16 Distribution: world Reply-To: terenz@neutron.reno.nv.us NNTP-Posting-Host: neutron.reno.nv.us X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Trying to get a portable runnign NS 3.3 to log into a NS 3.3 host machine for UUCp purposes. Trouble: Can't get the machines to transfer mail. You get REQUESTs/REQUESTEDs but they're all bounced. NetUser will not create a Uremotemachine either. You can't create a username with a capital (despite what it says in the manual). ANyone with a step-by-step instruction about this please send me one. Many thanks in advance.
From: adnan@seitz.de (Adnan Mumbasic) Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OOA/OOD tools wanted Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:16:31 GMT Organization: Seitz GmbH Message-ID: <4b6a4a$g9c@sarajevo.seitz.de> Hello, we have started a new industry project. In this project we should implement a production and planning system using object oriented [languages, development tools, analysis tools, design tools]. For now we have separated C++ and OpenStep (NeXTStep) as the language and development tools. For the database we have decided to use a oo-layer over a classical RDBMS. For OOA/OOD we haven´t anything decided. The only thing is the method should (must not) be Booch. Does anyone have an idea which tool supports Booch, is good and capable to handle a large project. The tool should at the end produce C++ header files which we could use in OpenStep (NeXTStep) as input. Has anyone experience whith complete OO implentations, from analysis to the implentation. Have I done something wrong in my decision for OpenStep (NeXTStep)? Or with Booch as the OO modelling method? For any help thank you very much Adnan, Seitz GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... Message-ID: <DJwrJr.7C0@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:21:27 GMT In article <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes: > The NeXT supplied UUCP is awful. Many sites use GNU Taylor UUCP which > works wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. You can get the binary distribution from > the archives or compile it yourself. In any case, it's easier to > configure, it's faster, more secure, and flexible. And the best place to look is ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next as that is the place where the easy-to-install NeGeN/NiNe Taylor UUCP and (patched) CNews packages can be found. Note: nl.net is moving so the site may be off the air the next couple of days. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu (William V Fleitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PPP Logon script question Date: 21 Dec 1995 03:00:22 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <4baik7$fmt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I want to install PPP on my NeXT. I have been using IJPPP; however I plan to use a different internet provider and the logon script requires more than just my login ID and password. My new provider (my university) requires a dial in to the university student dial in line. Then I need a script that will send one character (anything) followed by a return, then a connect command (c osf1), then my login, password and, finally, the command tia -ppp. Any help would be greatly appreciated in either configuring PPP 2 or IJPPP. Thanks again, Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Gamma correction of images Message-ID: <DJxMD1.7wB@sounds.wa.com> Summary: for the lazy programmer and non-programmer alike... Keywords: Calibration.app Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <4avia0$q5s@firehose.mindspring.com> <4b73c2$e0i@news.next.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:27:00 GMT In article <4b73c2$e0i@news.next.com>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@next.com> wrote: > [an execellent summary of Display PostScript operators and NetInfo ] > [database properties which together allow for flexible adjustment for] > [monitor nonlinearities ] If you don't have the time to use all of this information to write a smoothly operating NEXTSTEP application which allows real-time adjustment of these values with the mouse, then perhaps you would be interested in purchasing Calibration.app? The program has the option to show the correction curves in a graph, with pure color bars to aid in calibration. NetInfo access is also supported, both read and write. This product was created in 1992, and has been revised several times since then. Version 3.5 is currently shipping. Version 4.0 is close to shipping, with new features for more advanced curves which hope to correct the problems that many people are having with the red channel output being particularly weak. Please contact me for pricing and shipping information. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA <http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/brianw.html>
From: Rocky Rockwell <rockwell@compass.sc.ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OOA/OOD tools wanted Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 07:06:10 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments Message-ID: <30D95BC2.42D0@compass.sc.ti.com> References: <4b6a4a$g9c@sarajevo.seitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Adnan Mumbasic <adnan@seitz.de> You might want to check out RATIONAL Software Corp. (WEB page: http://www.meridian.com/) rocky -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ System Admin. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ /\ Martin "Rocky" Rockwell \/ /\ Texas Instruments, Springcreek Bldg. #2 \/ /\ 6500 Chase Oaks \/ /\ Plano, TX 75023 \/ /\ wk.ph.: 214-575-4607 msg: BMR5 \/ /\ work: m-rockwell1@ti.com home: rockwell@connect.net \/ /\ Quote: I'm not the best, but I am good! \/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: evol@brian.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Secondary EIDE Controller Date: 21 Dec 1995 13:28:39 GMT Organization: University of Koblenz, Germany Message-ID: <4bbne7$17e@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Hello, I have problems using the secondary EIDE-Controller with NeXTStep 3.3. I like to use a removable AT-BUS hard disk (1GB Quantum Fireball). The disk should be used on two different NeXTStep Pentium PCs. The first one is setup up in the following way: Intel Plato Motherboard Adaptec 2940 SCSI Adapter 1GB SCSI hard disk 2GB SCSI hard disk SCSI CD-ROM The removable AT-BUS disk is attached to the primary EIDE controller. I have setup a bootfloppy (see NeXTAnswers 1487 Booting from Alternative Hard Disk Drive). After booting from floppy I have added the Beta EIDE Driver (NeXTAnswers 1977). Then I could format the new disk and create a NeXTStep filesystem. So I could mount the disk and copy usr/Devices/System.config directory to it. Finally I edit the config info file "usr/Devices/System.config/Instance.table" on the new disk. I changed the line "Kernel" = "mach_kernel"; to "Kernel" = "sd(0)mach_kernel"; So the systems boots from the new disk, but continues booting from the SCSI disk. If the removable new disk is not present it boots directly from the SCSI disk. Everything works fine and the new disk can be used without problems. This is the setup of the other NeXTStep Pentium: Intel Endavor Motherboard 1GB EIDE Quantum Fireball (primary EIDE controller Master) Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM (primary EIDE controller Slave) I have added a second EIDE driver (NeXTAnswers 1977) and changed the port address to 0x170 and IRQ 15. The removable new disk is attached the secondary EIDE controller. The system boots fine and finds the following disk: hd0a hc0 hd1a But after login the Workspace hangs. I think it tries to mount the new disk and has some trouble with it. Is there anybody using a hard disk on the secondary EIDE controller? Is there a problem with the Beta EIDE driver? What are the names of the possible 4 EIDE hard disk devices (there are only hd0 and hd1 in /dev) ? Thanks in advance Randolf Werner --
From: marcos@imana.com (Marcos Javier Polanco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Personalized Web Agent for OmniWeb Date: 21 Dec 1995 16:21:09 GMT Organization: TLGnet Inc., (formerly The Little Garden) Message-ID: <4bc1hl$h85@kadath.zeitgeist.net> That's right, Cedric. Jet over to http://www.imana.com/ to experience the Siteseer. It will read your bookmarks, analyze your interests, and generate an organized set of recommended Web locales for you to visit. It uses OmniWeb as its native format, and is totally powerd by NEXTSTEP! So get a load of it and let us know what your think! -- ========================================================== Marcos J. Polanco The House of Imana 415.255.1102 (voice) 1011A Fell Street 415.255.1102 (fax) San Francisco, CA 94117 marcos@imana.com http://www.imana.com/ ==========================================================
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PPP Logon script question Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:49:52 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951221094712.5868F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4baik7$fmt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4baik7$fmt@portal.gmu.edu> On 21 Dec 1995, William V Fleitz wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I want to install PPP on my NeXT. I have been using IJPPP; however I plan to > use a different internet provider and the logon script requires more than just > my login ID and password. My new provider (my university) requires a dial in > to the university student dial in line. Then I need a script that will send > one character (anything) followed by a return, then a connect command (c osf1), > then my login, password and, finally, the command tia -ppp. Any help would > be greatly appreciated in either configuring PPP 2 or IJPPP. check out the free PPP on http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ using this I was able to dialin, connect, send a carriage return, enter 2 for 'student' then enter my login and password, then enter 38400 for speeed, then enter 'ppp' to begin. quite simple... the website also has a lot of FAQs question and answers... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> "I'm deperate, I've got a glass and I can't find a coaster... Then a thought comes to mind... I search frantically through the mail and there it is... another @$%#&! AOL disk.... Finally a place to put down my drink."
From: Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenWrite LIVES! was....Re: How to associate extensions with an app? Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:52:18 -0600 Organization: Envision Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <30D9F332.4543@envision.com> References: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> <4aled7$1q6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman wrote: > > Chris Cleeland <chris@envision.com> writes > > For anyone who got one of the last copies of OpenWrite, there's > > a nifty little app in there that encapsulates this segedit thing. > > All drag-n-drop, etc. Too bad Lighthouse swallowed them up and > > aren't doing anything with their products. > > Uh, Chris. You are a couple weeks late with your complaining. > Lighthouse announced, I dunno, maybe 2 weeks ago that they would be > making OW 2.0 available rsn. > > OpenWrite LIVES! I stand corrected, thankfully! Sorry I propagated old information. When I last made my inquiry to Lighthouse, they were still trying to figure out what to do with OpenWrite. I downloaded it last night, and I must say that they have made changes that I really like. Now, the decision is whether to upgrade... Regarding Garance's wondering about whether or not the app is included, I don't know. I didn't download all the OpenWrite associated archives to find out. I'll go back to lurking now until I get my foot out of my virtual mouth. -cj -- Chris Cleeland, chris@envision.com, Envision, Inc. St. Louis, MO USA +1 314 878 4777 / +1 314 878 4775 fax Merkur maintainer, C++ Hack, NeXT enthusiast, soon-to-be dad. <<< This space available for witticisms >>>
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenWrite LIVES! -- a question Date: 22 Dec 1995 03:37:19 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <4bd95f$34e@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <30CE0E65.2A3C@envision.com> <4aled7$1q6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <30D9F332.4543@envision.com> It has been mentioned several times that the new version of OmniWeb (2.0) requires NS 3.3 (or EOF). Does anyone know whether this is true of the new releases of OpenWrite and/or EquationBuilder as well? If so, is there a convenient way to get EOF without upgrading the OS? (I have 3.2 on an old NeXTstation, and am quite happy with it.) Thanks, John Haugeland haugelan+@pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sb6fb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Subject: RTF format, NEXT vs. MS-Word Message-ID: <DJzvKM.AAG@rivm.nl> Keywords: RTF Rich Text Format Sender: news@rivm.nl Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene, Bilthoven, NL Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:41:09 GMT I would like to import RTF (Rich Text Format) files from for instance MS-Word, but also from scanner software under MS-Windows. I have noticed NEXT and other don't use the "coding scheme". The diacritic characters become mixed up. I noticed that a Word generated file begins with "\rtf1\ansi" and a NEXT generated file begins with "\rtf0\ansi". I vaguely remember this subject has been discussed before in one of this groups, but I don't remember the results. I would also like to know where to get the "official" description of the RTF format. Who owns it? Microsoft? Any pointers are welcome -- RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and Environmental Protection Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15 | e-mail: F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Risk Assessment Division | NeXTmail & MIME is OK P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven | voice : +31 30 2742962 The Netherlands | fax : +31 30 2280174
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... Date: 22 Dec 1995 16:46:28 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> References: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote: > The NeXT supplied UUCP is awful. UUCP itself is an ancient protocol, but NeXT's version seems to work fine, IMHO. Many sites use GNU Taylor UUCP which > works wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. Bzzt! Taylor can cause kernel panics when used with NS 3.3 and NXFax with NeXT hardware. NeXT's UUCP works fine with this configuration. By setting NXFax to a non-default configuration, it appears that Taylor can be made to work. You can get the binary distribution from > the archives or compile it yourself. In any case, it's easier to > configure, it's faster, more secure, and flexible. Using NeXT's UUCP, I had to configure 1 file. Using Taylor, I had to wade through 6 configuration files making changes to 3 of them. I found Taylor more difficult to configure than NeXT's UUCP. I haven't been able to detect any performance advantage of Taylor when connecting with UUCP sites that don't use Taylor (probably most sites, by far). However, if Taylor is on both ends of the connection, a faster proprietary protocol will be used. Taylor is more flexible than NeXT's UUCP. But this flexibility isn't needed in most cases and results in more difficult configuration. I use Taylor myself because I had heard that it was superior to NeXT's UUCP. I use its flexibility to debug UUCP accounts for several of our offices because it supports setting the UUCP name independent of the hostname, something that's not possible with NeXT's UUCP. But we have decided against replacing NeXT's UUCP with Taylor at all of our offices because it just doesn't offer any significant advantages for us and is unsupported by NeXT. Your mileage may vary. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: mandrews@bob.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3D Acceleration with Matrox Millenium Graphics Card? Date: 22 Dec 95 18:19:40 GMT Organization: Wittenberg University, Springfield OH Message-ID: <mandrews.819656380@bob.wittenberg.edu> References: <4aa8u7$2ur@delphi.cs.ucla.edu> <4ahksc$6fi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: >Eskandar Ensafi <esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu> wrote: >> >>Does the NEXTSTEP driver for the Matrox Millenium graphics card support >>the card's real-time 3D and 3D rendering capabilities? If so, how do you >>enable it? If not, do you have any idea how to tweak Quick RenderMan to >>give you more detail at the expense of performance? >As far as I know, no you can't. >NEXTSTEP treats all video cards as linear frame buffers, and cannot take >advantage of any hardware acceleration, 2D or 3D. This is the reason why >Windows'95+PlusPack gives much smoother real-time dragging and scrolling >than NEXTSTEP. (The fact that Windows'95 is utter garbage deep down is >another thing...) Yikes -- so all that matters to NEXTSTEP is the "DOS speed" of the card, since it dosen't use any chipset acceleration functions? That kinda sucks. I DO understand WHY it doesn't (extra video buffer in real memory), so this isn't really a legit gripe, just one of those "would be nice if" kinda things.... That certainly explains why the Millenium I have didn't look tons faster than the S3-864 card I had for a little while... (That was just to my eyes though, I didn't actually run benchmarks, so I could just be full of it. :) -- -- Mike Andrews * mandrews@wittenberg.edu * mandrews@termfrost.org (NeXT) -- Programmer/Analyst, Wittenberg Univ * http://www.termfrost.org/~mandrews
From: a-prince@ix.netcom.com(Frank Bellino ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Looking for color monitor repair in Los Angeles Date: 23 Dec 1995 02:22:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4bfp59$mrn@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I have a 17" ND color display which now only dispays black. The Megapixel (monochrome) display is also dimming, seem like there's a message here somewhere... Has anyone any experience (good or bad) with service providers in Los Angeles, CA or anywhere in Souther California? Thanx for any help. Frank Bellino
From: sumcheng@hklink.net (Sumcheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PPP Logon script question Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 16:41:51 +0900 Organization: ¾`§´µÛß{†÷ßQ…| Message-ID: <sumcheng-2312951641510001@t1p1.hklink.net> References: <4baik7$fmt@portal.gmu.edu> In article <4baik7$fmt@portal.gmu.edu>, wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu (William V Fleitz) wrote: Where to get PPP for NeXT? > Hi everyone, > > I want to install PPP on my NeXT. I have been using IJPPP; however I plan to > use a different internet provider and the logon script requires more than just > my login ID and password. My new provider (my university) requires a dial in > to the university student dial in line. Then I need a script that will send > one character (anything) followed by a return, then a connect command (c osf1), > then my login, password and, finally, the command tia -ppp. Any help would > be greatly appreciated in either configuring PPP 2 or IJPPP. > > Thanks again, > Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... Message-ID: <DK1FE8.DqF@RnA.NL> Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 11:46:56 GMT In article <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Many sites use GNU Taylor UUCP which > > works wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. > > Bzzt! Taylor can cause kernel panics when used with NS 3.3 and NXFax > with NeXT hardware. NeXT's UUCP works fine with this configuration. By > setting NXFax to a non-default configuration, it appears that Taylor can be > made to work. Apart from this there might be problems even without NXFax. But not many sites have reported this (I was the site with the worst problems as far as I know) and it seems restricted to 25MHz 040 systems, maybe even only the first 040 upgrade boards. When using NXFax set (dwrite) ResetDelay to some value larger that the default, say 6. See NXFax help. > > You can get the binary distribution from > > the archives or compile it yourself. In any case, it's easier to > > configure, it's faster, more secure, and flexible. > > Using NeXT's UUCP, I had to configure 1 file. Using Taylor, I had to > wade through 6 configuration files making changes to 3 of them. I found > Taylor more difficult to configure than NeXT's UUCP. Unless you get the NeGeN/NiNe package from ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next > > I haven't been able to detect any performance advantage of Taylor when > connecting with UUCP sites that don't use Taylor (probably most sites, by > far). However, if Taylor is on both ends of the connection, a faster > proprietary protocol will be used. Correct. At 14k4 for instance you won't get above 950 cps with NeXT UUCP but you will get up to 1600cps with Taylor on both sides. BTW GNU UUCP and Taylor UUCP are identical as far as I know. --Gerben -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/IP: Operating System not found! HELP! Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 22:32:10 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Message-ID: <4bhefd$9sc@blackice.winternet.com> I have a EIDE drive with Nextstep installed, and a SCSI drive with Windows95. I've been dual booting by enabling/disabling the EIDE drive, and this has been working well for months. Yesterday, instead of getting a "boot:" prompt, it came up with "Operating System not found". I suspect my boot blocks were corrupted somehow. How can I recover from this? I don't have another bootable Nextstep drive. There's about 3 months of work on my EIDE drive that I can't get to if it won't boot. Please cc any replies to email. Thanks! Steve -- Steve Krans, Minneapolis MN skrans@winternet.com
From: skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/IP: Operating System not found! HELP! Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 08:51:45 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Message-ID: <4biip5$45e@blackice.winternet.com> References: <4bhefd$9sc@blackice.winternet.com> In article <4bhefd$9sc@blackice.winternet.com>, skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) wrote: >I have a EIDE drive with Nextstep installed, and a SCSI drive with Windows95. > I've been dual booting by enabling/disabling the EIDE drive, and this has >been working well for months. > >Yesterday, instead of getting a "boot:" prompt, it came up with "Operating >System not found". I suspect my boot blocks were corrupted somehow. How can >I recover from this? I don't have another bootable Nextstep drive. There's >about 3 months of work on my EIDE drive that I can't get to if it won't >boot. > >Please cc any replies to email. > >Thanks! > >Steve > I was able to load the boot software from floppy, then issue a "hd(0)mach_kernel" to boot of my ide drive. I installed new boot software using "/usr/etc/disk -b /dev/rhd0h" (or is it rhd0a?), but am still getting the same "Operating system not found" message at boot time. Suggestions? Steve -- Steve Krans, Minneapolis MN skrans@winternet.com
From: peterson@cybercom.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: QUIX Mac OS port to Black Boxes: Info Please! Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:30:17 GMT Organization: CYBERCOM Internet Services (617) 396-0491 Message-ID: <4bioi3$2m4@orion.cybercom.net> References: <4al8ni$bot@amhux3.amherst.edu> jpcurry@unix.amherst.edu (JAMES PRESCOTT CURRY) wrote: >Can anyone give me information regarding QUIX, and >using QUIX to port Mac OS to 68K NeXT boxes? >Where do I get it? Any critiques of performance, >and most importantly, does QUIX support communications, >meaning if I were to Web browser under it over >QUIX would it work? >Danke. >Scott >jpcurry@amherst.edu Traitor
From: h9050756@idefix.wu-wien.ac.at (Michael Alexander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: QUIX Mac OS port to Black Boxes: Info Please! Date: 24 Dec 1995 14:45:25 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Message-ID: <4bjp25$4l8@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> References: <4al8ni$bot@amhux3.amherst.edu> <4bioi3$2m4@orion.cybercom.net> peterson@cybercom.net wrote: : jpcurry@unix.amherst.edu (JAMES PRESCOTT CURRY) wrote: : >Can anyone give me information regarding QUIX, and : >using QUIX to port Mac OS to 68K NeXT boxes? : >Where do I get it? Any critiques of performance, : >and most importantly, does QUIX support communications, : >meaning if I were to Web browser under it over : >QUIX would it work? : >Danke. It works flawlessly (IP/PPP/Netscape and all the others). Opensource is selling it (http://www.opensource.com under software/emuluators). This is pasted in from the Daydream manual to give you a clue: An Overview So, actually, what is Daydream? To be precise, Daydream - together with Software from Apple - is a Version of the System 7 Operating System for the NeXT Computer Hardware. It's the first time System 7 is ported to a non-Apple Computer. Daydream uses System Software which is officially licenced from Apple Computer, Inc P one of the reasons why Daydream is so excellently compatible with a `real' Macintosh. Nonetheless, differences exist. The NeXT hardware is not compatible with the Macintosh hardware; QUIX engineers needed to rewrite parts of the System Software in order to hide these differences wherever possible. This manual outlines the few remaining differences between a real Macintosh and Daydream, and gives tips to ensure a seamless cooperation between all parts of the software and hardware. ... ---------------------========== Best Regards ==========---------------------- Michael F. Alexander mfa@centrex.com Michael.Alexander@idefix.wu-wien.ac.at ------------------------------===================----------------------------
From: skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/IP: Operating System not found! HELP! Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 22:01:36 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Message-ID: <4bk124$5ig@blackice.winternet.com> References: <4bhefd$9sc@blackice.winternet.com> <4biip5$45e@blackice.winternet.com> In article <4biip5$45e@blackice.winternet.com>, skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) wrote: >In article <4bhefd$9sc@blackice.winternet.com>, > skrans@winternet.com (Steve Krans) wrote: > >>I have a EIDE drive with Nextstep installed, and a SCSI drive with Windows95. >> I've been dual booting by enabling/disabling the EIDE drive, and this has >>been working well for months. >> >>Yesterday, instead of getting a "boot:" prompt, it came up with "Operating >>System not found". I suspect my boot blocks were corrupted somehow. How can >>I recover from this? I don't have another bootable Nextstep drive. There's >>about 3 months of work on my EIDE drive that I can't get to if it won't >>boot. >> >>Please cc any replies to email. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Steve >> > >I was able to load the boot software from floppy, then issue a >"hd(0)mach_kernel" to boot of my ide drive. I installed new boot software >using "/usr/etc/disk -b /dev/rhd0h" (or is it rhd0a?), but am still getting >the same "Operating system not found" message at boot time. Suggestions? > >Steve > Fixed it. There was a problem with my scsi card. -- Steve Krans, Minneapolis MN skrans@winternet.com
From: murshid@unit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how do I fax with NEC Versa? Date: 24 Dec 1995 22:18:25 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <4bkjjh$6t7@news.cerf.net> I have recently installed the latest drivers for pcmcia and I still get error message stating that fax software is not functioning properly. Is there anyone running Nextstep on an NEC Versa using a pcmcia modem who has figured out how to fax? If so, please contact me as I am at a standstill. Thanks much Steve
From: caradoc@neta.com (Santa ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Santa's Xmas Gift to you all Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:44:05 GMT Organization: North Pole - Spam Central Message-ID: <4bkkle$a18@news1.goodnet.com> Rudolf, the red-nosed raindeer. Had a very shiny nose - and if you ever saw it you would even say it glows. ................ Then one foggy Christmas night, Santa came and said, Rudolf with your nose so bright, won't you SPAM the world tonight.............................................. YES I WILL SANTA SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
From: caradoc@neta.com (Santa ) Message-ID: <cancel.4bkkle$a18@news1.goodnet.com> Control: cancel <4bkkle$a18@news1.goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <4bkkle$a18@news1.goodnet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 08:16:53 KST UDP SPAM cancelled by jem@xpat.postech.ac.kr.
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: QUIX Mac OS port to Black Boxes: Info Please! Date: 25 Dec 1995 15:18:42 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <4bmfci$c5j@news1.panix.com> References: <4al8ni$bot@amhux3.amherst.edu> <4bioi3$2m4@orion.cybercom.net> <4bjp25$4l8@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> It's a Swell Thing.
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Getting started with Sybase Date: 25 Dec 1995 14:55:56 -0700 Organization: Me? Organized? Sender: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu Message-ID: <ov68f4g64z.fsf@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> I have a set of floppies with the Sybase Limited Server (v4.1) from way back (NS 2? NS 1?), which I have never used but would now like to. Two questions - 1) Will it work with NS 3.3? and 2) Can anyone recommend any good reading material for someone such as myself who used relational database technology fifteen years ago but has never used Sybase or SQL? The on-line docs seem to assume a hefty amount of prior knowledge about Sybase, and I'm not at all sure where to start. Thanks in advance. -- --paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/ [L(aB)FFoDM # {WAL(1,t):t\in(0.5,1]}] ================================================================= Any father who thinks he's all important should remind himself that this country honors fathers only one day a year while pickles get a whole week. =================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: nbhatia@netcom.com (Naresh Bhatia) Subject: Re: OOA/OOD tools wanted Message-ID: <nbhatiaDK78Eo.FFo@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.object,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <4b6a4a$g9c@sarajevo.seitz.de> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:01:35 GMT Sender: nbhatia@netcom4.netcom.com Adnan Mumbasic (adnan@seitz.de) wrote: : For OOA/OOD we haven´t anything decided. The only thing is the method : should (must not) be Booch. Does anyone have an idea which tool : supports Booch, is good and capable to handle a large project. The : tool should at the end produce C++ header files which we could use in : OpenStep (NeXTStep) as input. Try out S-CASE. It supports Booch and C++ code generation. Demos are available via anonymous ftp to ftp.netcom.com. The product is supported on Windows, Mac, Sun SPARC and OS/2. For more information you can contact us at: MultiQuest Corporation Tel: (708) 397-9930 (USA) Fax: (708) 397-9931 Email: 72531.2510@compuserve.com
From: Ofer Matan <ofer> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: speed > 9600 Date: 27 Dec 1995 06:42:20 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department, CA USA Message-ID: <4bqpsc$p3k@Radon.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I finally got around to hooking my Next pizzabox to campus via modem. I am running 3.2. Is there some limitation on running at rates higher than 9600 ? my modem is 14400 , but neither tip nor kermit will allow me to set the speed to 14400. Puzzled, -Ofer **************************************************************************** * * * He who laughs, lasts .... * * * * Ofer Matan ofer@cs.stanford.edu * * Department of Computer Science (415) 725-8086 * * Stanford University * * Stanford, CA 94305 * ****************************************************************************
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is the Archive ORST? Date: 25 Dec 1995 23:21:42 GMT Organization: CADVision Message-ID: <4bnbm6$ota@huey.cadvision.com> On 07/24/95, Garrett L. Rice composed a News article about Re: Where is the Archive ORST?: >In article <3utq0o$bp4@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org writes: >:Is orst healthy? I tried to log in but couldn't find any files? >: >He's probably attempting the correct login..just as I ws twice today. The FTP connection simply timed out without progressing to the logon. (GatorFTP+) I guess they're down for christmas...hey everyone deserves a holiday! -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Turbo Colour Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids =====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz Subject: HELP: Telnet autologins unwanted Message-ID: <c1b7cb$142a0.36d@news> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:42:00 GMT Hi folks! NeXTSTEP telnet client has nasty feature: it tries to auto log-in to some hosts (esp. those running Linux, buth others too). How can I avoid this? Once I've been asked why I am trying to log in as a root :-( Bye Borek -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BOREK LUPOMESKY, student University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ PGP and NeXT mail welcome, key available via finger =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: "Muhammad A. Lodhi" <lodhi@cshl.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Modem questions Date: 28 Dec 1995 01:54:34 GMT Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Lab Message-ID: <4bstcq$jes@A-DNA.cshl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm currently in the possession of a SupraFAX modem 144LC and I'd like to use it with my NeXT (black) computer. What software do I need in order to use it? Please respond by e-mail to johnsona@cshl.org (I'm posting this from a friend's account). Thanks. Arthur F. Johnson 1 Bungtown Road Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724-0100 johnsona@cshl.org
From: nextjet@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need NEXTSTEP DOCS 1.0 and up. Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 23:44:08 +500 Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (800)IDS-1680 Message-ID: <4bt7ar$ns2@paperboy.ids.net> need nextstep docs 1.0 and up any condition let me make a bid.
From: dhess@net.tamu.edu (Dave Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Telnet autologins unwanted Date: 28 Dec 1995 06:05:53 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, CIS Network Group Message-ID: <DHESS.95Dec28010554@saturn.tamu.edu> References: <c1b7cb$142a0.36d@news> In-reply-to: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz's message of Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:42:00 GMT In article <c1b7cb$142a0.36d@news> lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz writes: > NeXTSTEP telnet client has nasty feature: it tries to auto log-in to some > hosts (esp. those running Linux, buth others too). How can I avoid this? > Once I've been asked why I am trying to log in as a root :-( (Note this is all on NEXTSTEP 3.3) After some hacking around (I always wanted to figure out how that worked :-) it turns out that you have a couple of options. First, telnet has an undocumented switch to override the user that is sent across to login. Here is the real usage line: usage: telnet [-l user] host-name [port] If you don't specify -l user then telnet takes the content of the USER environment variable and ships it across to telnetd which then (depending on the system) passes that as an argument to login. If USER is not set in the environment then it is not sent and you are prompted for the username. This telnet also supports the environ commands. From the telnet> prompt you can use "environ unexport USER" to get the same effect as unsetting USER in the environment. The man page is also lying about .telnetrc; this one does read them. Unfortunately, this version doesn't support the DEFAULT tag which makes it pretty useless in this case. So, you have four pretty simple options. 1) Use the command line switch 2) Set up a shell alias for telnet that specifies your username. 3) Create a .telnetrc file in your (or root's) home directory with a line like the following for *every* host you telnet to. host environ unexport USER 4) Put a shell script around telnet that unset's USER. Note that you could also do this with an alias but then that leaves /bin/sh out in the cold (my favorite for shell programming). My preference would be for the last approach until telnet understands the DEFAULT tag in .telnetrc (I really dislike that feature being the default behavior). For example, create a new /usr/ucb/telnet and move the old to /usr/ucb/telnet.goofy. The contents of /usr/ucb/telnet would be the following shell script. #!/bin/sh unset USER /usr/ucb/telnet.goofy $* Note that the -l user switch will still work with this script. Of course, make sure you set the permissions/ownership for the new /usr/ucb/telnet correctly or you will be opening yourself up for a pretty nasty trojan horse attack. Dave -- David K. Hess Network Analyst David-K-Hess@tamu.edu Computing and Information Services - Network Group (409) 845-0372 (work) Texas A&M University
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is the Archive ORST? Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:03:43 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951228100314.14079B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> References: <4bnbm6$ota@huey.cadvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4bnbm6$ota@huey.cadvision.com> They might be in the process of moving their NeXT archives... I saw some mention of that in the login message. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> "I'm deperate, I've got a glass and I can't find a coaster... Then a thought comes to mind... I search frantically through the mail and there it is... another @$%#&! AOL disk.... Finally a place to put down my drink."
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mount LINUX partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 28 Dec 1995 16:23:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4bugau$d3d@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi All, I think this has been covered before, but how can I mount my Linux Partition from NEXTSTEP ??? Any software or procedures to follow?? Thanks in advance, Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.cs.orst.edu is down... Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:16:49 -0500 Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.951228101207.14079C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <RDL.95Dec26185848@world.std.com> On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, Robert La Ferla wrote: > Since ftp.cs.orst.edu has been down for several days, can someone suggest > an alternate site? I sem to remember that the NeXT archives were going > to be moved from ftp.cs.orst.edu to another site anyways. Did that happen > and if so, where is it? orst is back, I just logged in and the files were all there... The new site will eventually be: next-ftp.peak.org TjL, who is only cross-posting this because it has been asked in both newsgroups today -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> "I'm deperate, I've got a glass and I can't find a coaster... Then a thought comes to mind... I search frantically through the mail and there it is... another @$%#&! AOL disk.... Finally a place to put down my drink."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... In-Reply-To: art@cubicsol.com's message of 22 Dec 1995 16:46:28 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec28175836@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:58:36 GMT I disagree. I have run Taylor UUCP and NXFax on several different 3.3 systems and have not experienced kernel panics. When there was a kernel panic it was due to an old version of NXFax that used a LKS loadable kernel server. B&W has since corrected that. And think about what you are saying - UUCP is causing kernel panics? Nothing should cause a kernel panic. The only things that might cause one are (a) bugs in kernel servers / drivers, (b) bugs in the kernel, and (c) faulty or misconfigured hardware. Again, I haven't seen any code in Taylor that may trigger a bug in the kernel. I have done quite a bit of work with Taylor so I'm surprised that I haven't seen it. NXFax is another story. Furthermore, the NeXT UUCP is insecure. I won't post the details but it is possible to severely compromise NeXT UUCP systems. I wouldn't let any of my clients take that kind of risk. And the performance improvement is made by your configuration (packet size, etc...) as well as the "i" protocol which yields significantly better results. Lastly, the NeXT version does not come with source code. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45926 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.oz.net!news From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 22 Dec 1995 16:46:28 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Lines: 44 Distribution: world References: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: aisbell.got.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote: > The NeXT supplied UUCP is awful. UUCP itself is an ancient protocol, but NeXT's version seems to work fine, IMHO. Many sites use GNU Taylor UUCP which > works wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. Bzzt! Taylor can cause kernel panics when used with NS 3.3 and NXFax with NeXT hardware. NeXT's UUCP works fine with this configuration. By setting NXFax to a non-default configuration, it appears that Taylor can be made to work. You can get the binary distribution from > the archives or compile it yourself. In any case, it's easier to > configure, it's faster, more secure, and flexible. Using NeXT's UUCP, I had to configure 1 file. Using Taylor, I had to wade through 6 configuration files making changes to 3 of them. I found Taylor more difficult to configure than NeXT's UUCP. I haven't been able to detect any performance advantage of Taylor when connecting with UUCP sites that don't use Taylor (probably most sites, by far). However, if Taylor is on both ends of the connection, a faster proprietary protocol will be used. Taylor is more flexible than NeXT's UUCP. But this flexibility isn't needed in most cases and results in more difficult configuration. I use Taylor myself because I had heard that it was superior to NeXT's UUCP. I use its flexibility to debug UUCP accounts for several of our offices because it supports setting the UUCP name independent of the hostname, something that's not possible with NeXT's UUCP. But we have decided against replacing NeXT's UUCP with Taylor at all of our offices because it just doesn't offer any significant advantages for us and is unsupported by NeXT. Your mileage may vary. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: kwanguhu@connectus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: color coded text editor for writing code? Date: 29 Dec 1995 01:52:42 GMT Organization: AltNet - Affordable Usenet Access - http://www.alt.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <4bvhla$nfk@tofu.alt.net> Summary: color coded text editor Keywords: color coded, text editor Is there, or are there plans of making available a color coded code editor like Codewright (under MS Windows). If there is one available comercial or otherwise could someone point me in the right direction please. I am starting to feel very deprived and getting tired of explaining why I am still using Edit on my Intel box when I could be using a nifty color coded programming environment like Codewright on my other development PC. GRRR I hope there is something out there even if it is still in beta. ------ ================================================================== E. Kamau Wanguhu International Game Technology Systems Engineer mailto:kwanguhu@intgame.com Phone: 1.702.686.1144 (o o) mailto:kamau@connectus.com FAX: 1.702.686.1299 -----ooO-(_)-Ooo----- ===================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Subject: Re: color coded text editor for writing code? In-Reply-To: kwanguhu@connectus.com's message of 29 Dec 1995 01:52:42 GMT Message-ID: <RDL.95Dec28223921@world.std.com> Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <4bvhla$nfk@tofu.alt.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 03:39:21 GMT Emacs.app supports color. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant Boston, MA Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088 Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004 E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com In article <4bvhla$nfk@tofu.alt.net> kwanguhu@connectus.com writes: Xref: world comp.sys.next.misc:45951 comp.sys.next.programmer:26027 comp.sys.next.software:24229 Path: world!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!usenet From: kwanguhu@connectus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: 29 Dec 1995 01:52:42 GMT Organization: AltNet - Affordable Usenet Access - http://www.alt.net Lines: 17 Distribution: world Reply-To: kwanguhu@connectus.com Summary: color coded text editor Keywords: color coded, text editor X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Is there, or are there plans of making available a color coded code editor like Codewright (under MS Windows). If there is one available comercial or otherwise could someone point me in the right direction please. I am starting to feel very deprived and getting tired of explaining why I am still using Edit on my Intel box when I could be using a nifty color coded programming environment like Codewright on my other development PC. GRRR I hope there is something out there even if it is still in beta. ------ ================================================================== E. Kamau Wanguhu International Game Technology Systems Engineer mailto:kwanguhu@intgame.com Phone: 1.702.686.1144 (o o) mailto:kamau@connectus.com FAX: 1.702.686.1299 -----ooO-(_)-Ooo----- ===================================================================
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mount LINUX partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 29 Dec 1995 06:25:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4c01lm$npn@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <4bugau$d3d@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <4bugau$d3d@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, espeyton@ix.netcom.com says... > >Hi All, > >I think this has been covered before, but how can I mount my Linux >Partition from NEXTSTEP ??? Any software or procedures to follow?? > >Thanks in advance, > >Eric Peyton >espeyton@ix.netcom.com > I should have been clearer, the Linux Partition and the Nextstep partition are on the same machine, but different drives. Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: color coded text editor for writing code? Date: 29 Dec 1995 06:30:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4c01tb$npn@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <4bvhla$nfk@tofu.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Keywords: color coded, text editor In article <4bvhla$nfk@tofu.alt.net>, kwanguhu@connectus.com says... > >Is there, or are there plans of making available a color coded code editor like Codewright (under MS Windows). > >If there is one available comercial or otherwise could someone point me in the right direction please. > >I am starting to feel very deprived and getting tired of explaining why I am still using Edit on my Intel box when I could be using a nifty > >I hope there is something out there even if it is still in beta. > >------ >================================================================== >E. Kamau Wanguhu International Game Technology >Systems Engineer mailto:kwanguhu@intgame.com >Phone: 1.702.686.1144 (o o) mailto:kamau@connectus.com >FAX: 1.702.686.1299 -----ooO-(_)-Ooo----- >=================================================================== > > I have been working on a syntax highlighter for NEXT for a couple of weeks now. It is very, very alpha right now. I am hoping to develope it along the lines of CodeWright or WinEdit, etc. I don't know how much interest there is in making it public, let me know if anyone is interested. I know Emacs.app supports color, but a lightweight editor is what I hope to achieve, without the bloat of such a large system. Eric Peyton espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: nexus@xs4all.nl (nexus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install from EIDE CD or SCSI HD ? Date: 24 Dec 1995 17:22:28 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <4bk28k$atn@news.xs4all.nl> Keywords: install boot scsi eide My boss just got me NextStep and told me to go install it, but as it happens, we only have EIDE CD drives and according to the FAQ and my experience that wont work; Now, assuming this still isnt possible I got the idea to use linux to dd the CD content to an empty HD partition and try to installt off that.. any idea if that would work ? We will get a SCSI CDdrive (a recorder, actually) RSN, but we all know RSN often isnt too soon. Thanks, Casey
From: anon-remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl (Anonymous) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Used Black Cubes for sale Date: 28 Dec 1995 21:55:19 +0100 Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. Sender: remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl Message-ID: <4bv07n$nfm@utopia.hacktic.nl> Comments: Hack-Tic may or may not approve of the content of this posting Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to <postmaster@utopia.hacktic.nl> No, there is NO market for these. Why not buy some PC's and run both NextStep3.2 and WindowsNT on two partitions? Why'd you "completely overhaul" the systems? sender: marty@sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) organization: Isis Distributed Systems, Inc newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc My company has >10 black cubes that we would like to sell. They are all running NS 3.2, have 68040 cpu's and 16meg of memory. Last year, these machines were completely overhauled. Is there a used market for these machines? Any information will be appreciated.
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem w/ PPP2.2 Followup-To: poster Date: 29 Dec 1995 16:57:27 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <4c16ln$psv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: PPP Hi, I am running on n older 68040 NeXT cube w/ NS3.2. I am trying to get PPP 2.2 by Steve Perkins running on my machine. Although I have followed the instructions to the letter it is still not working. I have tried all of the suggestions given in the trouble shooting section of the README file included with the program. The problem comes which I am trying to connect to my service provider. I can connect fine and the IP addresses are negotiated okay, but once that is done I cannot connect anywhere. Whenever I try to telnet anywher (whether I use an IP addr or a name) it gives me "host name lookup failure." I have all of my providers nameservers listed in the resolv.conf file, so that is not the problem. I do not get the "netinfo sleeping" message in the console window either. I really do not understand why it is not working. I really would *LOVE* to get it working. If anyone has had a similar problem, then plese email me. Any suggestions or help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!!
From: tuyo@afrinet.net (Mike Tuyo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,compe.sys.next.hardware Subject: PROBLEM: Maching Boots only in read-only mode Date: 30 Dec 1995 08:57:44 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <4c2uu9$ejp@sundog.tiac.net> I have a strange problem, I removed a scsi drive from my NeXTStation (which worked fine before) and installed it in my NeXT Turbo (which had no disk prior) . It seemed to boot the Turbo fine (only once), however it took about 15mins to boot. After the first time, this disk then boots only in single user mode and "read-only", and ALSO I'M UNABLE TO EXECUTE *ANY* BASIC COMMANDS, like 'mount', 'cat' and 'more'. But i can use things like 'ls' 'echo'. The constant, "cannot execute" come up each time I use a command. The same thing happens when I put the disk back into the NeXTStation. Please HELP!!!! Mike Tuyo (tuyo@o2is.com)
From: "Muhammad A. Lodhi" <lodhi@cshl.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Modem questions Date: 30 Dec 1995 18:32:29 GMT Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Lab Message-ID: <4c40jt$p7v@A-DNA.cshl.org> References: <4bstcq$jes@A-DNA.cshl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question about modems. I received a lot of worthwhile advice. Arthur F. Johnson 1 Bungtown Road Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724-0100 johnsona@cshl.org
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: UUCP problems..... Date: 30 Dec 1995 20:01:04 GMT Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4c45q0$q57@emerald.oz.net> References: <4b5pbq$3he@news.greatbasin.net> <RDL.95Dec20001042@world.std.com> <4bend5$i4v@emerald.oz.net> <RDL.95Dec28175836@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote: > I disagree. I have run Taylor UUCP and NXFax on several different 3.3 systems > and have not experienced kernel panics. When there was a kernel panic it was > due to an old version of NXFax that used a LKS loadable kernel server. B&W > has since corrected that. And think about what you are saying - UUCP is > causing kernel panics? Nothing should cause a kernel panic. The only things > that might cause one are (a) bugs in kernel servers / drivers, (b) bugs in the > kernel, and (c) faulty or misconfigured hardware. Again, I haven't seen > any code in Taylor that may trigger a bug in the kernel. I have done quite > a bit of work with Taylor so I'm surprised that I haven't seen it. NXFax > is another story. > Just because you haven't experienced kernel panics using NS 3.3 black, NXFax 1.04, and Taylor UUCP 1.05 doesn't mean that others won't, so please don't discount the very real experience of several people at different sites. When NS 3.3 was first released, kernel panics began happening immediately. People from NeXT, Black and White (NXFax), and those experiencing the panics spent a lot of time trying to determine the nature of the problem. You were not involved, so you don't know what was done to try to figure this out. If you choose to ignore this very real problem, then you're not being responsible to your clients. I was merely trying to alert people to a serious problem that can occur when 3rd-party software is used in place of software supplied with the OS. NeXT cannot possibly support 3rd-party software. If you substitute 3rd-party software for software included with any OS, you're always running a risk of exercising an undiscovered bug in the OS, which appears to be the case here. So, in general, most sites don't want someone to come in and replace sendmail, uucp, and many other utilities for which there are GNU versions available, no matter how much better they *might* be, because when something breaks, it's much more difficult to figure out what the problem is. -- Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 contract and case management solutions
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mount LINUX partition from NEXTSTEP Date: 30 Dec 1995 20:22:23 GMT Organization: my own Message-ID: <4c471v$brn@gate.seicom.net> References: <4bugau$d3d@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <4c01lm$npn@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) wrote: > In article <4bugau$d3d@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, espeyton@ix.netcom.com > says... > > > >Hi All, > > > >I think this has been covered before, but how can I mount my Linux > >Partition from NEXTSTEP ??? Any software or procedures to follow?? > I should have been clearer, the Linux Partition and the Nextstep partition > are on the same machine, but different drives. Nope, but you can mount the NeXT partitions from Linux... ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platform/next/Unix/disk/ufs-0.3.1* a part of the readme: ufs-0.3.1.1.s.tar.gz This is the source for the Unix File System (ufs) for Linux kernels 1.3.x. This version, 0.3.1.1, is able to mount NEXTSTEP filesystems READ_ONLY from Linux. WRITING is not possible. ufs-0.2 was developed by Yossi Gottlieb, 0.3nx by Bruno Haible added support for NEXTSTEP filesystems (floppy and hard disk). This version, 0.3.1.1, works for kernels >=1.3.x. This is without any warranty. It works fine for me (kernel version 1.3.23, at the moment) with NEXTSTEP 3.2 and 3.3 partitions on two SCSI disks. There seem to be problems with symbolic links on UFS filesystems. REQUIREMENTS: This patch should work with Linux kernel 1.3.x. For kernels 1.1 and 1.2, please use ufs-0.3-NeXT. --- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: Mark F Trumpbour <shmeck+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: US Robotics Fax Driver Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:23:08 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <oktOqwq00YUr84JV8_@andrew.cmu.edu> Howdy, I've just installed NEXTSTEP on my Dell Pentium, and I can't get my fax modem to work. Rather, I can't find a driver for my US Robotics Courier v.34 fax modem. Does anybody know a workaround? Thanks, Mark
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