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From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ShowAndTell, Scene, PhoneKit, and other unbundle stuff
Date: 30 Dec 1994 15:40:40 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
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All those nice apps that used to be in /NextDeveloper/Demos:
Anyone know what's going to happen to these unbundled pieces of software?
Are they being shelved/junked or have gone to their respective authors or
sold to someone else?
I really wish that NeXT would donate these things to the user community if
they're not going to do anything with them. Giving the MusicKit to CCRMA
was a good example. What about the rest?
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From: rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
Date: 30 Dec 1994 23:58:34 GMT
Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins
Message-ID: <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
I just got off the phone with Alembic. They were very
helpful but now I'm concerned about getting 3.3 and someday
4.0 to run on my black hardware. I thought NeXT had to
provide software support to us orphans for five years after
they got out of hardware...
The NS3.3 academic bundle I received has Intel all over it, but
no mention of Motorola hardware. So I called Alembic, and they
say there *ISN'T* a Motorola bundle!!!! What's the story here?
Evidently there is some upgrade disk you can get from NeXT, but
it only goes from 3.2 to 3.3 and is only for user. It doesn't
do anything for developer (which I need). And evidently 3.3
user won't even work with 3.0 developer (or vice versa). There's
some talk about them coming out with a black port in the
near future, but it sounds like it was an afterthought and I'm
curious just how well it's going to work.
I'll save venting my spleen until I get some more facts, but I
am *very* concerned. Not just for 3.3 but for 4.0 which I
anxiously await. I happen to think this black hardware is the
best buy for the money, especially since it's paid for, and I
don't want to invest in a new box just to run the next version -
I'll wait until I can get all they toys I want integrated into
one platform.
How many black orphans are there out here? NeXT, you're only
alive at all because of us.
Rich
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From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
References: <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 00:42:31 GMT
Message-ID: <D1nGMw.9w7@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>,
Richard D. Warner <rich@tongue1> wrote:
> I just got off the phone with Alembic. They were very
> helpful but now I'm concerned about getting 3.3 and someday
> 4.0 to run on my black hardware. I thought NeXT had to
> provide software support to us orphans for five years after
> they got out of hardware...
>
> The NS3.3 academic bundle I received has Intel all over it, but
> no mention of Motorola hardware. So I called Alembic, and they
> say there *ISN'T* a Motorola bundle!!!! What's the story here?
> Evidently there is some upgrade disk you can get from NeXT, but
> it only goes from 3.2 to 3.3 and is only for user. It doesn't
> do anything for developer (which I need). And evidently 3.3
> user won't even work with 3.0 developer (or vice versa). There's
> some talk about them coming out with a black port in the
> near future, but it sounds like it was an afterthought and I'm
> curious just how well it's going to work.
I'm running 3.3 on a slab right now. It's here. In fact the 3.3 cd
is _FAT_ so you can use it on both systems (I've tried). With 3.3 you
need to use 3.2 developer which is FAT already.
I honestly don't know what Alembic told you, perhaps there isn't a 3.3
academic bundle expressly for motorola. Does you CD say for Intel and
NeXT systems? Then it's fat. Back up your disk and give it a shot.
> I'll save venting my spleen until I get some more facts, but I
> How many black orphans are there out here? NeXT, you're only
> alive at all because of us.
> Rich
>
In January I will have had my slab for four years. It's more useful now
than in any other time I have owned it. NeXT customer support and shipping
have drastically improved since I bought this sytem and had to wait 6 months
for the 2.1 upgrade floppies (all 17 million of them!) NeXT even let me
upgrade a geezer system from 2.1 to 3.3 for the same price as everyone else
(reversing an older policy.) I am very satisfied with their support. YMMV.
cheers,
steve
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what's with OmniWeb ??
Date: 31 Dec 1994 03:04:53 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3e2hol$h6h@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> <3e1lg2$dmb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
J-weiss@nwu.edu wrote...
>In article <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com>, Tom Meyer <tmeyer@mcs.com> wrote:
>>What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is
>>unreachable.
>
>What I did because I could not get FTP to work, was to set my system
>clock back before 12/25/94 and used OMNIWEB to download a new
>copy via WWW.
Another alternative is to check out ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps. The newest released version of
OmniWeb is mirrored there, and that's where I got my copy when I saw
the expiration notice and couldn't get into ftp.omnigroup.com.
First Intel, now Omnigroup. Seems everyone is having math problems
nowadays! ;-)
Joe
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From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
Date: 30 Dec 1994 22:30:57 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3e2tr1$e5l@samsara.circus.com>
References: <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
Pre-posting disclaimer: I'm a lowly contractor who tests software for
NeXT. I have little or no influence within NeXT as regards marketing
decisions, etc... :) My opinions probably don't reflect anyone else's.
In article <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>,
Richard D. Warner <rich@tongue1> wrote:
> I just got off the phone with Alembic. They were very
> helpful but now I'm concerned about getting 3.3 and someday
> 4.0 to run on my black hardware. I thought NeXT had to
> provide software support to us orphans for five years after
> they got out of hardware...
> The NS3.3 academic bundle I received has Intel all over it, but
> no mention of Motorola hardware. So I called Alembic, and they
> say there *ISN'T* a Motorola bundle!!!! What's the story here?
> Evidently there is some upgrade disk you can get from NeXT, but
> it only goes from 3.2 to 3.3 and is only for user. It doesn't
> do anything for developer (which I need). And evidently 3.3
> user won't even work with 3.0 developer (or vice versa). There's
> some talk about them coming out with a black port in the
> near future, but it sounds like it was an afterthought and I'm
> curious just how well it's going to work.
Let me clarify the problem a little bit for you. 3.3 runs perfectly fine
on black hardware, and it's been tested fairly extensively. Support for black
hardware was *not* an afterthought. Now, with regard to the developer
software, 3.2 did not work with the 3.0 developer tools either, they are
seperate CDs.
The problem is, apparently, a marketing/sales problem, and not an engineering
one; the engineering is done in this respect, with the exception of 3.3
developer, which is under way and in beta. My best guess as to why the
academic bundle might be Intel-only (is it really? *boggle* news to me!) is
that people with black hardware would be seeking upgrades instead.
I sort of wonder what they're doing with the academic bundle now that 3.3 user
is out the door; I would speculate that the nice and logical thing to do
would be to send 3.3 user and 3.2 developer, promising to send a 3.3 dev
upgrade along later when it's ready. I won't make any predictions about
what they're actually doing/going to do. :)
> I'll save venting my spleen until I get some more facts, but I
> am *very* concerned. Not just for 3.3 but for 4.0 which I
> anxiously await. I happen to think this black hardware is the
> best buy for the money, especially since it's paid for, and I
> don't want to invest in a new box just to run the next version -
> I'll wait until I can get all they toys I want integrated into
> one platform.
I agree with you on these counts; first, 4.0 promises to be spectacular, and
secondly, I really love my color slab at home! Best hardware ever!
> How many black orphans are there out here? NeXT, you're only
> alive at all because of us.
Presumeably, one could speculate that many of the owners of black hardware
who *were* in academia when they bought it might be graduates outside of
academia now. (This is probably not the case for a number of people...)
I believe there's a well-qualified new face in the marketing department,
and that's where this problem (IMHO) came from initially. So, perhaps
things will be changing if people make their feelings known appropriately.
Perhaps not. I'm not in a position to know. :)
> Rich
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: ISDN
Message-ID: <1994Dec31.040636.1934@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 04:06:36 GMT
I anyone having any type of success with ISDN, NEXTSTEP, and Intel? If
so, I would like to hear your experience.
THanks
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From: Doug Moore
Subject: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Message-ID: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 16:09:20 GMT
If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any bugs...
Give us a honest opinion.
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From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 31 Dec 1994 17:24:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3e444q$16ql@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3e26ra$g53@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov> <D1nGMw.9w7@ritz.mordor.com>
Steve Borrelli (borrelli@ritz.mordor.com) wrote:
: I'm running 3.3 on a slab right now. It's here. In fact the 3.3 cd
: is _FAT_ so you can use it on both systems (I've tried). With 3.3 you
: need to use 3.2 developer which is FAT already.
: I honestly don't know what Alembic told you, perhaps there isn't a 3.3
: academic bundle expressly for motorola. Does you CD say for Intel and
: NeXT systems? Then it's fat. Back up your disk and give it a shot.
They said there's no academic bundle and to call NeXT next week when
they're back at work to *see if they can send an upgrade disk*. They
also said NeXT was working on a Motorola bundle of 3.3 user and 3.2
developer but that it wasn't available yet. No, it doesn't say it's for
Motorola and Intel - only Intel. Alembic said this is a red-hot issue
right now and that they've received a bunch of calls from Motorola
people, and that they're working with NeXT to resolve it.
: > I'll save venting my spleen until I get some more facts, but I
: > How many black orphans are there out here? NeXT, you're only
: > alive at all because of us.
: > Rich
: >
: In January I will have had my slab for four years. It's more useful now
: than in any other time I have owned it. NeXT customer support and shipping
: have drastically improved since I bought this sytem and had to wait 6 months
: for the 2.1 upgrade floppies (all 17 million of them!) NeXT even let me
: upgrade a geezer system from 2.1 to 3.3 for the same price as everyone else
: (reversing an older policy.) I am very satisfied with their support. YMMV.
: cheers,
: steve
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Is 3.3 crashing more than 3.2?
Date: 1 Jan 1995 09:12:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Message-ID: <9501011513.AA08476@cantina.lanl.gov>
Greetings and Happy New Year,
The following is not well-documented and distills my gut-feelings.
I've had NS/I 3.3 installed on this Epson NX for about ten days. I have
a very distinct impression that I'm having far more crashes than I was in
NS/I 3.2. This morning, for example, I got a crash simply by trying to
launch ping.sound,[*] which certainly never happened to me before on either
Intel or Motorola!
Is anyone else getting the same impression?
Dick Silbar
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[*] The "Continue or Reboot Panel?" said "failed instruction exception
(2,d,3640000)"; another such panel said "(2,d,f0000000)", and this happened
DURING the login-panel display right after a reboot!
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From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Message-ID: <D1r1uK.Bov@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 23:13:31 GMT
Doug Moore writes:
>If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any bugs...
>Give us a honest opinion.
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>St Paul, MN
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While I have only had NS3.3 up for three days now, my initial impression
is favorable. It *feels* a bit faster than NS3.2 and the UserManager
is certainly much more capable. Haven't used mail much yet.
The only strange thing I experienced was with my mouse. It *coincidently*
began to act up just after installing NS3.3. The indications were an
apparent "button bounce" in the left mouse button. It was virtually
impossible to select an app in the Workspace Browser without activating
it. Also, submenu selections would exibit a multiple select/deselect
action while the intent was a simple selection. However, I replaced
the offending mouse with one I had been using on a mono-cube and the
problem went away? Perhaps this was a coincidence or perhaps there
is something else going on here which amplified a latent mouse problem.
All in all, my experience with NS3.3 on a ND Cube is good.
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From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is 3.3 crashing more than 3.2?
Date: 1 Jan 1995 16:33:34 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3e7hku$kcp@samsara.circus.com>
References: <9501011513.AA08476@cantina.lanl.gov>
In article <9501011513.AA08476@cantina.lanl.gov>,
Dick Silbar <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> wrote:
> The following is not well-documented and distills my gut-feelings.
> I've had NS/I 3.3 installed on this Epson NX for about ten days. I have
>a very distinct impression that I'm having far more crashes than I was in
>NS/I 3.2. This morning, for example, I got a crash simply by trying to
>launch ping.sound,[*] which certainly never happened to me before on either
>Intel or Motorola!
> Is anyone else getting the same impression?
>[*] The "Continue or Reboot Panel?" said "failed instruction exception
>(2,d,3640000)"; another such panel said "(2,d,f0000000)", and this happened
>DURING the login-panel display right after a reboot!
The lovely Epson NX...
Unfortunately, I don't remember the solution to this, but we were having
some problems with an Epson NX running 3.3, and I believe it turned out to
be an option in the system BIOS that needed to be changed. I wish I knew
what it was... I do know that the system in question used to crash randomly
very often, and it is now running just fine.
> Dick Silbar
Good luck with this, perhaps a solution will pop up for you; someone else
may post it, or it might show up in NeXTAnswers...
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From: spenton@irie.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDROM - ISO9660 Problems - ReNO
Date: 2 Jan 1995 03:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3e7r7l$mp6@lace.Colorado.EDU>
Keywords: CDROM,ISO9660,Lost in Audio
Greetings,
I recently purchased a MedaiVision ReNO SCSI2-CDROM for
use with my NeXTstation OS=3.2. I can read HFS and Audio
CD's with no problems, but no ISO9660 format disks.
(I get an ugly system panic when I try. Crash, reboot, dogs and cats
living together... mass hysteria).
Is there anything special I need to be doing ?
Is there special a special ISO driver I need ?
Help!
Lost in Audio.
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 2 Jan 1995 02:09:17 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3e7n8d$api@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
I upgraded my mono 25Mhz slab to 3.3 last night (finished upgrading
something like two minutes before 1995 :-) and noticed that one file
being updated was the Interceptor library (as I had previously
installed NeXTtime). So I tried running some Quicktime movies and
found them to be noticably better. It's still no speed demon, due
to all the dithering going on. Has anyone else noticed similar
performance gains? What about on color machines? And Intel?
Based on my experience, I would recommend to anyone who installed /
installs NeXTtime _after_ NeXTstep 3.3 that they replace the
Interceptor library from NeXTtime with the one from the NeXTstep 3.3
cdrom (I'm assuming that NeXTtime installation overwrites the 3.3
Interceptor library).
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to setup NeXTstep 3.3 screensaver?
Date: 2 Jan 1995 05:22:26 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3e82ii$cdp@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
The NeXTstep 3.3 login preferences are quite nice... but the
screensaver one doesn't appear to work, at least for me. I
set it up to be BackSpace (not knowing exactly how it would
react to that), but I simply get the "normal" screensaver.
Any advice or similar experiences? (This is on mono NeXTstation.)
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From: figmet@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: printer driver source?
Message-ID: <figmetD1sEC4.HDn@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:40:52 GMT
I am looking for some printer drivers.(3rd party or whatever) so i can
get my inkjet to work with my trbostn.
thanks...ericd
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is 3.3 crashing more than 3.2? (Epson NX)
Date: 2 Jan 1995 16:42:06 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <3e9acu$b7p@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <9501011513.AA08476@cantina.lanl.gov>
In article <9501011513.AA08476@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes:
<snip>...
> I've had NS/I 3.3 installed on this Epson NX for about ten days. I have
>a very distinct impression that I'm having far more crashes than I was in
>NS/I 3.2. This morning, for example, I got a crash simply by trying to
>launch ping.sound,[*] which certainly never happened to me before on either
>Intel or Motorola!
<snip>...
>[*] The "Continue or Reboot Panel?" said "failed instruction exception
>(2,d,3640000)"; another such panel said "(2,d,f0000000)", and this happened
>DURING the login-panel display right after a reboot!
I've had similar crashes of my Epson NX with NS/I 3.2, especially
while doing data acquisition with IoTech boxes. We thought it
might be a problem with the SCSI<->IEEE488 part, so our guru, Mahmud
Haque, just rewrote our interpretor to use W. Eric Norum's Keithley
KPC488.2 driver and a National Instruments IEEE488 card. It crashed
after about 6 hrs of running with "failed instruction exception
(2,2,0)"-- this is the same problem we had before while using the
IoTech SCSI<->IEEE488 box.
I'm beginning to think it's a problem with the Epson NX, since the
same data acquisition software and IoTech hardware run flawlessly on a
Pentium in our lab (and on many Black-hardware setups).
Is anyone else having mysterious and hard-to-trace crashes on their Epson
NX? I've had problems under NS/I 3.1 and 3.2 (probably won't bother
upgrading to 3.3).
rick
--
Rick Gray, Ph.D., Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 2 Jan 1995 11:04:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199501021009.KAA27448@beep.roadrunner.com>
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com wrote:
> I upgraded my mono 25Mhz slab to 3.3 last night (finished
> upgrading something like two minutes before 1995 :-) and
> noticed that one file being updated was the Interceptor
> library (as I had previously installed NeXTtime). So I
> tried running some Quicktime movies and found them to be
> noticably better. It's still no speed demon, due to all
> the dithering going on. Has anyone else noticed similar
> performance gains? What about on color machines? And
> Intel?
>
> Based on my experience, I would recommend to anyone who
> installed / installs NeXTtime _after_ NeXTstep 3.3 that
> they replace the Interceptor library from NeXTtime with
> the one from the NeXTstep 3.3 cdrom (I'm assuming that
> NeXTtime installation overwrites the 3.3 Interceptor
> library).
Well, in my case, having gotten the NEXTIME as part of the NS3.3 upgrade
promotion, I naturally upgraded first. So, not really believing Andrew's
last sentence, I compared the /usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib files on
my hard disk and on the 3.3 CDROM. Amusingly, they have exactly the same
date and time; but they ARE different. The one on the 3.3 disk is 201KB,
whereas the one on my hard disk (put there by the NEXTIME installation) is
only 77.5KB.
So, I copied over the larger one and, I agree, it makes my movies now
"stutter-free". Much smoother.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
----
By the way, an earlier, significant improvement in my playing movies was to
install the NEXTIME sound driver, just as it said to do in the supplemental
release notes. Where it says explicitly that this would help sound and video
synchronization. A colleague, who did not get those notes with his version
of NEXTIME purchased earlier, didn't notice the (innocuous) remarks about the
sound driver in the little installation instruction booklet.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 2 Jan 1995 18:52:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e9i1h$6l8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <199501021009.KAA27448@beep.roadrunner.com>
In article <199501021009.KAA27448@beep.roadrunner.com>
silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) writes:
> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com wrote:
> > Based on my experience, I would recommend to anyone who
> > installed / installs NeXTtime _after_ NeXTstep 3.3 that
> > they replace the Interceptor library from NeXTtime with
> > the one from the NeXTstep 3.3 cdrom (I'm assuming that
> > NeXTtime installation overwrites the 3.3 Interceptor
> > library).
>
> Well, in my case, having gotten the NEXTIME as part of the NS3.3 upgrade
> promotion, I naturally upgraded first. So, not really believing
Andrew's
> last sentence, I compared the /usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib files
on
> my hard disk and on the 3.3 CDROM. Amusingly, they have exactly the
same
> date and time; but they ARE different. The one on the 3.3 disk is
201KB,
> whereas the one on my hard disk (put there by the NEXTIME installation)
is
> only 77.5KB.
>
Well, this is because the file on the CD-ROM is fat whereas the one on
your HD isn't.
I thought I'd try the same on my black hardware because I upgraded to
NS 3.3 first and then installed the NEXTIME that I received as part of the
promotion (it's pretty unusable on mono black hardware).
259[/usr/shlib]# sum libInterceptor_s.A.shlib
43174 78 libInterceptor_s.A.shlib
260[/usr/shlib]# cp -p /NEXTSTEP_3.3/usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib .
overwrite ./libInterceptor_s.A.shlib? y
261[/usr/shlib]# lipo -thin m68k libInterceptor_s.A.shlib -output
thin.shlib
262[/usr/shlib]# mv thin.shlib libInterceptor_s.A.shlib
remove libInterceptor_s.A.shlib? y
263[/usr/shlib]# sum libInterceptor_s.A.shlib
43174 78
Hmmm. The thinned libInterceptor_s.A.shlib from the 3.3 CD-ROM is
identical to the one that was already on my boot drive. Maybe only the
Intel version of the shlib has changed...
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 2 Jan 1995 19:18:37 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e9jid$kom@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3e9i1h$6l8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3e9i1h$6l8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> Hmmm. The thinned libInterceptor_s.A.shlib from the 3.3 CD-ROM is
> identical to the one that was already on my boot drive. Maybe only the
> Intel version of the shlib has changed...
Ok, theory #2: Something about 3.3 has changed (other than the
Interceptor library) which has resulted in the speedup. Based on
Dick Silbar's comparison of file dates (Hey! I should have done
that!), some other change seems to make more sense. However, if
Dick is getting better performance with the 3.3 Interceptor...
Hmmm...
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: configuring HP 4MP printer on Intel
Date: 3 Jan 1995 05:01:28 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3ealn8$r6u@News1.mcs.com>
So I go buy an HP 4MP printer today. Since it was kind of on a whim (I go
to dinner at my parents' house and my dad goes "wanna go buy yourself a
laser printer ?"), I bought the printer not really knowing what types of
cables I needed. I get home and I try to use the centronics-to-parallel
cable I bought. Hooks up OK, but PrintManager only lets you attatch to a
serial port or SCSI port (w/ NeXT color printers only) so I'm kinda screwed
right now.
Can anyone help me out ?? I think I'll have to do one of 2 things:
1) buy a dual serial port cable and attatch my modem and the printer to the
same port. I just won't be able to print while I'm using my SLIP
connection, I guess.
2) get a bus mouse (what the hell is a bus mouse anyways ? does it just
attatch to the parallel port ?? Do I have to buy some kind of special
card?)
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Right now I've got a
rather expensive paperweight sitting on my desk :-)
thanks,
tom meyer
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
tmeyer@mcs.com
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
Date: 3 Jan 1995 05:20:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3eamrh$3gpl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
I had several people email me saying that 3.3 did in fact run on
black hardware irregardless of what Alembic says, or the packaging. So
I opened it up and tried it and sure enough it worked. The only catch
was that the install floppy was DOS and thus worthless - I had to use
the install floppy from my 3.0 software to get it to go.
I've been playing with it all day and it looks good. There are
a few minor glitches I've noticed already. For instance, the CD Player's
volume control doesn't have any appreciable volume until it is about
3/4 turned to max. And for some reason, when I enable the menu button on
my mouse, it isn't remembered when I log out and log back in ( is there
a "set" button hidden somewhere?). A particularly annoying one is that
I can't change the root group from daemon to wheel. It doesn't let me
edit that field or select another group. Other than a few things like that
it looks good. Lots of new documentation I see!
So the next challenge is getting slip or ppp to work. I'm in
HostManager right now trying to change the internet address from
192.42.172.1 to 127.0.0.1 but it won't let me edit that field. Will have
to do some reading on how to change the system name (uname doesn't work)
and the internet address. Ciao.
rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with no NS3.3 port (yet) for black hardware??????
Message-ID: <D1troF.oK@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <3e444q$16ql@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:26:38 GMT
As far as I know, the 3.3 User CD is fat, either m68k/i486 or hppa/sparc. The
3.3Developer PR1 is obese (quadruple fat).
Both are running on my black hardware (that is, still running 3.3Gamma, until
3.3 arrives).
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Questions on NS 3.3
Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:13:00 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jan03.110125@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello all.
I'm running NS 3.2 (developer) on Next Cube and have questions on
3.3 upgrade. BTW, I'm not elligible for Educational deal even though
I still use my old school account.
1) Is there any Moto 3.3 upgrade from 3.2 available ? If yes, where and
for how much ?
2) It seems that 3.3 user CDROM is FAT. Can I use it for PC to
install NS3.3 on the PC ? I mean does it come with the PC
install floppy disk ?
3) Will I get the 3.3 develper CDROM later or should I order them
later ?
I was not going to upgrade to 3.3 but if I could use it for both
NeXT and PC, I will think twice.
This might be some stupid question but: What's the improvement of
3.3 over 3.2 ?
Please send any info to park@isl.stanford.edu. Thanks in advance.
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: printer driver source?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:48:00 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3ec9lg$2g4@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <figmetD1sEC4.HDn@netcom.com>
In article <figmetD1sEC4.HDn@netcom.com> figmet@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
writes:
> I am looking for some printer drivers.(3rd party or whatever) so i can
> get my inkjet to work with my trbostn.
>
> thanks...ericd
Either Dots by F. Heinz or JetPilot by interpersonal-computing will
probably work. Let me know what type of printer you want to use, and I'll
provide you with more information about your options.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: gfrancis@wizard (Greg Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Many pages to one printed page?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:44:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3ec9ef$lgv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Keywords: postscript, printing
This was mentioned a few months ago and I never saw any definitive answers.
I would like to be able to take pages of postscript (LaTeX) pages and print several
postscript pages to one printed page.
I use this for condensing class lectures. When I made lectures slides with Diagram!
I could print 16 lecture slides to a page. Now that I am teaching statistics I need
to use LaTeX, and cannot figure how to do the page compression.
If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know.
--
Greg Francis, PhD | "It's the opposite of fun. It's golf."
Cognitive Psychology | Ellen Degeneres, "These Friends Of Mine"
Purdue University | http://wizard.psych.purdue.edu/cognitive.html
Assistant Professor | NeXTMail OK.
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mail app using /usr/spool/mqueue?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 20:27:13 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ecbv1$856@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Is it possible to set Mail app so that it leaves the mail in
/usr/spool/mqueue or wherever rather than moving it into Active.mbox?
I read mail from home using pine and don't like to have to bop back and
forth. I've set up aliases for pine to get to what gets moved into
Active mbox, but would rather it not go there.
is there a way to get newsgrazer to use pine rather than Mail.app?
--
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: dancingbear
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:24:31 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <oj2RmjmSMUgEBGEqhx@transarc.com>
come in please...
I found dancingbear.com, but anon-ftp doesn't work,
http://dancingbear.com/ doesn't work,
finger info@dancingbear.com doesn't work.
Is dancingbear some kind of clandestine operation? If so, forget I
said anything :-o
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Message-ID: <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
References: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:20:02 GMT
3.3 on ND.... no problems here, one issue surrounding host name
resolution for net access via a slip connection...
I've not noticed any speed issues for graphics, sounds,
etc...
I like the mail.app improvements.
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
Doug Moore writes
> If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any
bugs...
> Give us a honest opinion.
> --
> Douglas Moore
> St Paul, MN
> 612-227-3274
> dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail, Mime ready
> dmoore@is.com <--NeXTmail, Mime ready
--
Fred Schenkelberg
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What works in 3.3?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 01:01:09 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ecs0l$go5@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <3d7hot$rem@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <3dcjr1$8bk@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Uhmm... Nick... Why do you want an external pager in NeXTSTEP?
Don't you have anything better to do than write a new Mach pager?
The pager from NeXT works fine for me...
If you're looking for cool things that need to be done (and posted to the
net for free...) I'm sure that there are lots of people here willing to
give you ideas for free... ;-)
Seriously, though, the "Mach 3.0 features" are probably assembler
routines that work more efficiently, or are more stable, than the Mach 2.5 assembler routines. The programming interface has probably not changed very much (although I haven't had time to confirm this...)
/gary
In article <3dcjr1$8bk@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu>, marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes:
|> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes:
|>
|> >next's mach was based on mach 2.5 and was never ever ever never no way
|> >a micro kernel. supposidly they added some mach 3.0 features to nextstep 3.3.
|>
|> I'm waiting on purchase of 3.3 until I hear some details of what
|> Mach 3.0 features were added. Can anyone tell me if 3.3 has external
|> pagers? Certainly 3.3 developer docs must have an overview of the changes?
|>
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Questions on NS 3.3
Date: 3 Jan 1995 20:31:28 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3ed1a0$rgj@lia.bga.com>
References: <95Jan03.110125@ee.stanford.edu>
In article <95Jan03.110125@ee.stanford.edu>,
Sang Ju Park <park@isl.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I'm running NS 3.2 (developer) on Next Cube and have questions on
>3.3 upgrade. BTW, I'm not elligible for Educational deal even though
>I still use my old school account.
>
>1) Is there any Moto 3.3 upgrade from 3.2 available ? If yes, where and
> for how much ?
>2) It seems that 3.3 user CDROM is FAT. Can I use it for PC to
> install NS3.3 on the PC ? I mean does it come with the PC
> install floppy disk ?
>3) Will I get the 3.3 develper CDROM later or should I order them
> later ?
>
>I was not going to upgrade to 3.3 but if I could use it for both
>NeXT and PC, I will think twice.
If you are planning to use it for both NeXT and Intel you are going to
have to *pay* twice also. These licenses are for single machine use.
>
>This might be some stupid question but: What's the improvement of
>3.3 over 3.2 ?
>
>Please send any info to park@isl.stanford.edu. Thanks in advance.
>
>--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
>
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: configuring HP 4MP printer on Intel -- HELP !!!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 02:56:53 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3ed2pl$bom@News1.mcs.com>
References: <3ealn8$r6u@News1.mcs.com>
Yesterday I said :
> Can anyone help me out ?? I think I'll have to do one of 2 things:
>
> 1) buy a dual serial port cable and attatch my modem and the printer to
the
> same port. I just won't be able to print while I'm using my SLIP
> connection, I guess.
>
> 2) get a bus mouse (what the hell is a bus mouse anyways ? does it just
> attatch to the parallel port ?? Do I have to buy some kind of special
> card?)
>
> Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Right now I've got a
> rather expensive paperweight sitting on my desk :-)
>
> thanks,
>
> tom meyer
> tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
> tmeyer@mcs.com
Well, several people responded to me, and pointed out that if I installed
the ParallelPorts drive at address 0x378 (IRQ 7), the Parallel Port would
appear as an option in the PrintManager config panel. It did, so I set it
to use the port, powered off the machine, connected the printer, turned on
the printer, and booted the machine (as several people recommended).
However, upon booting I get the following messages:
IOParallelPort not allocated: controller not detected at address 0x378
_IO(something): no such device unit 0
When I try to test the printer via PrintManager (I wasn't expecting it to
work), I get the following in my console:
Jan 3 20:36:01 darker_wave Server:laser_wave[212]: Cannot open output
device '/dev/pp0': No such file or directory
I then checked to make sure the port was enabled on the motherboard (via
the jumpers - it was. The only thing I can maybe see wrong is that in the
system BIOS setup screen, you can choose the "LPT" port address for LPT1,
and your only choice is "3BCH". I didn't see this address in the available
addresses in the configure.app
Can someone please help me out ?!?!?
thanks,
tom meyer
tmeyer@mcs.com
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
312-554-5967 (w)
From: jlandwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Questions on NS 3.3
Date: 4 Jan 1995 03:02:39 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ed34f$1jt@rosie.next.com>
References: <95Jan03.110125@EE.Stanford.EDU>
In article <95Jan03.110125@EE.Stanford.EDU> park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju
Park) writes:
> 1) Is there any Moto 3.3 upgrade from 3.2 available ? If yes, where and
> for how much ?
Yes. Product N5683. $199. Call (800) 848-NeXT
> 2) It seems that 3.3 user CDROM is FAT. Can I use it for PC to
> install NS3.3 on the PC ? I mean does it come with the PC
> install floppy disk ?
NO. NeXT grants to you a personal, non-exclusive license to use the NeXT
Software on only one computer, of the processor family identified by you at
the time of purchase, at one time. Licenses are not transferable. The
CD-digipack in the upgrade package contains floppy disks only for the platform
designated. Therefore, if you purchase a Motorola upgrade, you cannot install
it on a PC.
> 3) Will I get the 3.3 developer CDROM later or should I order them
> later ?
>
3.3 Developer is a separate product which will be available early Q2.
Pricing has not yet been announced.
> This might be some stupid question but: What's the improvement of
> 3.3 over 3.2 ?
>
Check out NeXTanswers document #1706: NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Upgrade
This is accessible via:
http://www.next.com/
ftp://ftp.next.com/
or email nextanswers@next.com with subject: help index
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Message-ID: <1995Jan4.020323.19953@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <3e9jid$kom@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 02:03:23 GMT
In article <3e9jid$kom@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew
Abernathy) writes:
> In article <3e9i1h$6l8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
> writes:
>
> > Hmmm. The thinned libInterceptor_s.A.shlib from the 3.3 CD-ROM is
> > identical to the one that was already on my boot drive. Maybe only the
> > Intel version of the shlib has changed...
>
> Ok, theory #2: Something about 3.3 has changed (other than the
> Interceptor library) which has resulted in the speedup. Based on
> Dick Silbar's comparison of file dates (Hey! I should have done
> that!), some other change seems to make more sense. However, if
> Dick is getting better performance with the 3.3 Interceptor...
Note that not everyone has seen a performance boost with the fatter
libInterceptor_s.A.shlib... On one of our Intel P90 machines, the sound cuts
out 3 or 4 times, and the video is slow (unsynced) with either version!
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
References: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu> <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 02:47:58 GMT
Message-ID: <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com>
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
In article <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>,
Fred Schenkelberg <fms@chemelex.com> wrote:
>3.3 on ND.... no problems here, one issue surrounding host name
>resolution for net access via a slip connection...
I have this problem, too. When I send outgoing mail, it bounces
back with a host name lookup failure. Has anyone had this problem, or
(better yet) solved it?
_Steve
>
> I've not noticed any speed issues for graphics, sounds,
>etc...
>
> I like the mail.app improvements.
>
>
>Fred Schenkelberg
>NeXTmail enjoyed
>fms@chemelex.com
>Redwood City, CA
>
>
>
>Doug Moore writes
>> If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any
>bugs...
>> Give us a honest opinion.
>> --
>> Douglas Moore
>> St Paul, MN
>> 612-227-3274
>> dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail, Mime ready
>> dmoore@is.com <--NeXTmail, Mime ready
>--
>Fred Schenkelberg
--
Steven Borrelli borrelli@ritz.mordor.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
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I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that my
"black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
ones! Any clues as to how to copy the icons from my 3.1 CD and replace these? I
looked through all of the .tiff files in the Terminal.app directory, but none
were the one for the icon.
BTW: do the number of "white" machines now seriously outnumber those of "black"
ones? Because it's usually not politically correct to choose the larger of any
two groups... Maybe Terminal.app should have a grey icon.
Matt
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From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:40:04 GMT
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In article <D1v4JG.3ry@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) writes:
>
>I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that my
>"black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
root.tiff and openRoot.tiff are located in
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app
I colorized mine jet black and they stand out a
lot better.
Charlie Dvorak
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: configuring HP 4MP printer on Intel -- HELP !!!
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 22:43:27 -0800
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In article <3ed2pl$bom@News1.mcs.com>, tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com wrote:
> However, upon booting I get the following messages:
>
> IOParallelPort not allocated: controller not detected at address 0x378
> _IO(something): no such device unit 0
I get the same error on my Micronics M54Pi P90 System. I asked NeXT about this.
I was told there is a report of "Gateway" brand computers with Micronics board
having this problem. I was told it was fixable by setting the LPT address to
0278 (LPT2). NS 3.3 then saw the port upon boot, but I still couldn't get
it to work. Any other ideas...anyone???
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: configuring HP 4MP printer on Intel -- HELP !!!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:47:37 GMT
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In article <gj-0301952243270001@gj.irock.com>, G. J. <gj@irock.com> wrote:
>In article <3ed2pl$bom@News1.mcs.com>, tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com wrote:
>
>> However, upon booting I get the following messages:
>>
>> IOParallelPort not allocated: controller not detected at address 0x378
>> _IO(something): no such device unit 0
>
>I get the same error on my Micronics M54Pi P90 System. I asked NeXT about this.
>I was told there is a report of "Gateway" brand computers with Micronics board
>having this problem. I was told it was fixable by setting the LPT address to
>0278 (LPT2). NS 3.3 then saw the port upon boot, but I still couldn't get
>it to work. Any other ideas...anyone???
>
I had to change my GW 4dx2-66v to lpt2 at 0378 (not 0278) to get the
printer to work. If you've munged seriously with the printer configuration
you might want to verify you have the correct address and irq-7, for
NS 3.2. Printer has to be ON and connected at boot time.
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From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Re: Many pages to one printed page?
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In article <3ec9ef$lgv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> gfrancis@wizard (Greg Francis)
writes:
> This was mentioned a few months ago and I never saw any definitive
answers.
>
> I would like to be able to take pages of postscript (LaTeX) pages and
print several
> postscript pages to one printed page.
> ...
I think '/usr/bin/psnup' should solve your problem. Look at 'man psnup'.
Robert.
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Subject: RADICAL SOLUTION #2 - ROLLING YOUR OWN SYSTEM
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Radical Solution (TM) #2 December 1994
The most difficult aspect of building an AT-compatible PC to run
NEXTSTEP for Intel (NSFIP) is choosing the system components from
the myriad of products available. It is the intent of this Radical
Solution (TM) technical note to provide insight into building an
AT-compatible PC to run NSFIP.
It would be impossible to cover all of the products and combinations
of products that do, don't, or might work with past, present, and
future versions of NSFIP. The best advice to consider when building
a system is to choose components that are known to be NEXTSTEP
compatible at the time. The best way to determine compatibility is
to check the hardware compatibility guide or see if a driver is
available from a third party. Make sure that any products purchased
can be returned or exchanged if they don't work properly with NSFIP.
Most of the effort involved in choosing components should be spent
on the selection of the motherboard. The features provided by the
motherboard will usually determine the choice of the remaining
components. Motherboards come in various bus flavors such as ISA,
EISA, VLB, and PCI. A dual bus type, such as VLB/EISA for 486
systems or PCI/EISA for Pentium systems, will provide greater
flexibility when selecting components. However, a Neapolitan bus
type such as PCI/VLB/EISA may prove to be a poor choice due to the
added complexity of supporting all three bus types. When possible
choose an EISA bus over an ISA bus. An EISA bus provides better ISA
functionality. Be sure that the motherboard has enough of the
proper type of bus slots to hold the desired component cards.
Once the motherboard is chosen, decide on a CPU, the amount of
memory and cache desired, and the BIOS. The CPU should have at least
the horsepower of a 486DX/33Mhz, a Pentium is recommended. 16 MB of RAM
is the minimum amount of memory required to get reasonable performance,
32 MB is recommended. Memory comes in two varieties, 30-pin and 72-pin
SIMMs. Some motherboards accept both varieties, but most accept one or
the other. SIMMs are usually installed in banks, or groups, of 4 for
30-pin or of 2 for 72-pin. Be sure to ask about the memory configuration
for the motherboard in question. A good rule of thumb is to have a
256K cache for 16 MB of RAM and a 512K cache for 32 MB of RAM. The BIOS
should be a well known brand such as AMI, Award, or Phoenix.
Now decide which type of hard drive the system will have, IDE or
SCSI or both. Most systems can support at least 2 IDE drives and/or
at least 7 SCSI devices. Keep in mind that if there is no access to
a network, a SCSI CD-ROM drive, and thus a SCSI adapter, is required
for installation of NSFIP. A 3.5" 1.44 MB floppy drive is also
required.
Next determine if any parallel or serial ports are needed. Parallel
ports are used to connect printers and external modems, while serial
ports are used for mice, printers, external modems, terminals, and
such. If serial ports are needed, they should be 16550 compatible.
A multi-I/O card with support for two floppy drives, two IDE hard
drives, a parallel port, and two serial ports will do nicely for most
IDE based systems. A SCSI adapter with a floppy controller and a
simple I/O card with parallel and serial ports will suffice for most
SCSI based systems. However, if the system will only have a floppy
drive, SCSI devices, a Logitec bus mouse and an internal modem then an
I/O card is not needed at all. Note that an internal modem appears to
operate like a serial port with an external modem attached, while a
bus mouse is similar to a serial port with a serial mouse attached.
In other words, an internal modem and a bus mouse utilize system
resources the same as serial ports.
Generally any AT style keyboard will work. Programmable models
allow customization of the keyboard layout. Basically, any key can
become any other key or key sequence.
The most visible part of the system is the display card and monitor
combination. The bottom line, choose the combination that best
fits the need and checkbook. Choose a video card that will generate
the desired resolution and color palette at a reasonable frequency.
Then choose a monitor capable of handling that choice. If the
system will have light use, then a 15" monitor and video card
capable of displaying 1024 X 768 @ 60 Hz with an 8-bit (256) color
palette will be sufficient. On a heavily used system at least a 17"
monitor and video card capable of displaying 1152 X 900 @ 70 Hz with
a 16-bit (65536) color palette is encouraged.
If the system will be part of a network, an ethernet network card
will be needed. The performance of network cards varies greatly. If
the system will have high volume of network usage then choose a high
performance network card.
A sound card is optional. As with network cards, the performance of
sound cards varies widely. If sound is important, get a good sound card.
Sound cards compatible with the Pro Audio Spectrum, Sound Blaster, or
Microsoft Sound System offer average sound for typical use.
Now that the components are chosen, they need a place to live. The
options range from a desktop case to a full floor standing tower
case. The rules here are make sure the power supply is large enough
to handle the load and that there is physically enough space for
everything to fit. A 230 watt power supply will easily handle a
basic system. A larger 300 watt power supply may be needed on
systems with several disk drives and many components. There should
be enough bays to accomodate a floppy drive, a disk drive, and
a CD ROM drive if needed. Allow an extra bay or two for future disk
drives or tape drives. The number of slot openings should match the
number of bus slots on the motherboard.
The following checklist organizes the information needed to build
a NSFIP compatible system:
MOTHERBOARD
Slots: [ ] ISA [ ] EISA [ ] VLB [ ] PCI
Cache: [ ] 64K [ ] 128K [ ] 256K [ ] 512K [ ] 1MB
BIOS: [ ] AMI [ ] Award [ ] Phoenix
CPU: [ ] 486DX/33 [ ] 486DX2/66 [ ] 486DX4/100
[ ] P5-60 [ ] P5-66 [ ] P5-90 [ ] P5-100
SIMMs: [ ] 30-pin [ ] 70-pin
I/O
Drives: [ ] IDE Hard Drive [ ] 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
Ports: [ ] 16550 Serial [ ] Parallel
Mouse: [ ] Microsoft Serial [ ] Logitec Bus
Modem: [ ] Internal [ ] External
Printer: [ ] Parallel [ ] Serial
Keyboard: [ ] Programmable [ ] Standard
Sound: [ ] SB [ ] PAS [ ] MSS
Network: [ ] Ethernet
SCSI
Type: [ ] SCSI-2 [ ] Fast [ ] Wide [ ] SCSI-3
Devices: [ ] Hard Drive [ ] CD ROM Drive [ ] Tape Drive
CASE
Type: [ ] Desktop [ ] Minitower [ ] Midtower [ ] Fulltower
Bays: [ ] 5.25" F [ ] 5.25" H [ ] 3.5" F [ ] 3.5" H
Power Supply: [ ] 230W [ ] 250W [ ] 300W [ ] 400W
Two examples of systems known to be compatible with NSFIP follow.
The components for System A were each purchased from different
vendors. Most of the components for System B were purchased
from a single vendor, only the network and sound cards were
purchased from separate vendors.
SYSTEM A =================================
Tyan VL-EISA S1437 Motherboard with 256 KB Cache
Intel 486DX2 / 66 MHz CPU
32 MB RAM ( 8 4 X 9 70 ns 30-pin SIMMs )
AMI BIOS / SiS Chipset
6 EISA Slots, 2 EISA / VLB Slots
Acculogic sIDE-4/HP High Performance ISA Multi-I/O Adapter
2 Floppy Drives ( using 1 3.5" 1.44 MB )
2 IDE Hard Drives ( using 1 WD2420 420 MB )
2 16550 Serial Ports ( using 1 Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.0 )
1 Parallel Port ( using TI MicroLaser PS17 Laser Printer )
Adaptec 1542CF SCSI ISA Adapter
Texel DM-3024 SCSI CD ROM Drive
Diamond Viper 2 MB VRAM VLB Display Adapter
1152 X 900 @ 70 Hz with 16-bit color
Mag Innovision DX17F 17" Color Monitor
.26 mm Dot Pitch
Media Vision Pro Audio 16 Basic ISA Sound Adapter
Intel EtherExpress 16 ISA LAN Adapter
Maxi-Switch Programmable Keyboard
Full Tower Case
250 Watt Power Supply
6 5.25" Half-Height Bays ( or 3 5.25" Full-Height )
2 3.5" 1"-High Bays
SYSTEM B =================================
ASUSTek PCI/E-P54NP4 Dual-Pentium Motherboard with 512 KB Cache
1 Intel Pentium P54C / 90 MHz CPU
32 MB RAM ( 2 4 X 32 70 ns 72-pin SIMMs )
Award BIOS / Intel Neptune Chipset
3 PCI Slots, 1 EISA / PCI Slot, 3 EISA Slots
IW-2610 ISA Multi-I/O Adapter
2 Floppy Drives ( using 1 3.5" 1.44 MB )
2 IDE Hard Drives ( not used )
2 16550 Serial Ports ( using 1 Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.0 )
1 Parallel Port ( not used )
Adaptec 2940W SCSI PCI Adapter
Fujitsu 2694 1 GB SCSI Hard Drive
NEC CDR-510 3X SCSI CD ROM Drive
Diamond Stealth 64 2 MB VRAM PCI Display Adapter
1024 X 768 @ 75 Hz with 16-bit color
Viewsonic 17 17" Color Monitor
.27 mm Dot Pitch
Media Vision Pro Audio 16 Basic ISA Sound Adapter
Intel EtherExpress 16 ISA LAN Adapter
Maxi-Switch Standard Keyboard
Full Tower Case
300 Watt Power Supply
5 5.25" Half-Height Bays ( or 2 5.25" Full-Height )
2 3.5" Half-Height Bays
The above mentioned components were working together with NSFIP 3.3
as of today. There is no guarantee that they will work tomorrow.
Always check the latest compatibility information before purchasing
any hardware for NSFIP.
Best of luck and keep on rolling.
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Next issue, RADICAL SOLUTION (TM) #3 - TBD
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DECnet support for NS?
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:37:10 +0100
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Hello,
I'm just working on a project with the following aim: building up a PC-based
hardware, collect data from IEEE bus, build up defined packages and send them
away to the mainframe via DECnet.
First solution was a Windows based system. Speed was too slow, because of
cooperative multitasking.
Second is OS/2 not started yet.
Third might be a NeXTSTEP solution, but I wonder wether there is a DECnet
support ( I already got a driver for the IEEE bus).
Any answers concerning DECnet and NS are very much welcome.
CU, Boerny.
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Many pages to one printed page?
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:36:16 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
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On 3 Jan 1995, Greg Francis wrote:
> I would like to be able to take pages of postscript (LaTeX) pages and print several
> postscript pages to one printed page.
>
> I use this for condensing class lectures. When I made lectures slides
with Diagram!
> I could print 16 lecture slides to a page. Now that I am teaching statistics I need
> to use LaTeX, and cannot figure how to do the page compression.
>
You should try dvidvi on your .dvi output files before converting them
to postscript vie dvips. This should satisfy all your needs, because I had
to realize that not all postscript converter produce the correct ouput
format.
Read the dvidvi manual pages for further details.
CU, Boerny.
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From: snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr (Dominique SNYERS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: InstantTeX
Date: 4 Jan 1995 12:49:28 GMT
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Since the first of January InstantTeX refuses to work with the following
message:
"Sorry this version of InstantTeX has expired. Please contact
Dmitri@StarConn.com to find out how to obtain a new version."
Dmitri has not been answering any of my emails so far and I was wondering
if someone else could help me.
Thanks in advance,
Dom Snyers
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From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Where is the Learning Tool in 3.3
Date: 4 Jan 1995 13:22:12 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3ee7e4$p30@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
From the list of new feature in NS 3.3
Learning Tools
NEXTSTEP Quick Start
By stepping through this small manual, users can quickly learn al the
basics
of NEXTSTEP and be productive within 30 minutes.
Power Tips and Documentation Roadmap
The power user's guide contains a comprehensive list of short cuts and
tips
for the Workspace and bundled applications.
A new on-line and hardcopy roadmap helps novice users to easily and
quickly
navigate through the existing documentation.
**********************
Could anybody tell me where are those tools and document?
Mark
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Floppy Format
Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:37:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
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[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.sysadmin ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 4 Jan 1995 15:34:53 GMT ]
I am running NS 3.2 and when I initialize a ED (4MB) it formats
down to 2.5 MB instead of 2.88MB that it use to when running 2.1.
IS this noremal for NS 3.2 or is something wrong?
thanks
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Floppy Format
Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:39:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
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[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 4 Jan 1995 15:37:38 GMT ]
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.sysadmin ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 4 Jan 1995 15:34:53 GMT ]
I am running NS 3.2 and when I initialize a ED (4MB) it formats
down to 2.5 MB instead of 2.88MB that it use to when running 2.1.
IS this noremal for NS 3.2 or is something wrong?
thanks
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
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From: prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr (Laurent PREVOSTO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: color on HP workstations
Date: 04 Jan 1995 16:33:02 GMT
Organization: ENSTBR, Brest, France
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I am running NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a HP9000/700.
The workstation's got a color display (98754A)
But NS runs in B&W mode... :-(
Is it possible to make it run in color mode ?
And what should be changed in the configuration ?
Thanx for help
Laurent
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:59:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eenl7$6fg@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In article <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes:
>In article <D1v4JG.3ry@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) writes:
>>
>>I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that my
>>"black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
>
>root.tiff and openRoot.tiff are located in
>/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app
As for Terminal.app, do as follows to restore black app icon:
On a 3.2 system, extract icon.tiff
% segedit /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -extract __ICON app icon3.2.tiff
On a 3.3 system:
% su
# cd /NextApps/Terminal.app
# cp -p icon.tiff icon.tiff.orig
# cp -p Terminal Terminal.orig
# cp [path]/icon3.2.tiff ./icon.tiff
# segedit Terminal.orig -replace __ICON app icon.tiff -output Terminal
Re-dock Terminal icon, if you have it on the dock.
Command-u and reselect Terminal.app in FileViewer.
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From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Message-ID: <D1w6ty.82w@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:49:10 GMT
In article <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com> borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve
Borrelli) writes:
> In article <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>,
> Fred Schenkelberg <fms@chemelex.com> wrote:
> >3.3 on ND.... no problems here, one issue surrounding host name
> >resolution for net access via a slip connection...
>
> I have this problem, too. When I send outgoing mail, it bounces
> back with a host name lookup failure. Has anyone had this problem, or
> (better yet) solved it?
>
I had something like this when the hard drive on my cube died and I had to
totally reinstall the system. After that, all mail that I tried to send
outside my domain bounced.
The problem was that the default sendmail config files weren't set
up properly. There's about three different ones - check out
/usr/mail/sendmail.*.cf. Find the one that you need and replace
sendmail.cf with it. Maybe the upgrade barfed on your old one.
later
j
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: InstantTeX
In-Reply-To: snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr's message of 4 Jan 1995 12:49:28 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan4132409@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3ee5go$heb@melimelo.enst-bretagne.fr>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:24:09 GMT
>>>>> "Dominique" == Dominique SNYERS <snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr> writes:
Dominique> Since the first of January InstantTeX refuses to work
Dominique> with the following message:
Dominique> "Sorry this version of InstantTeX has expired. Please
Dominique> contact Dmitri@StarConn.com to find out how to obtain a
Dominique> new version."
Dominique> Dmitri has not been answering any of my emails so far
Dominique> and I was wondering if someone else could help me.
Dominique> Thanks in advance,
Dominique> Dom Snyers
What version do you have? I have version 3.0 and it seems to work fine.
You can get a 3.0 version at ftp.cs.orst.edu (I think).
Francois Magnan
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From: dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu (Deep Medhi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Suggestion for a modem
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:27:20 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <3eepa8$io3@kasey.umkc.edu>
Keywords: modem, NeXT
Would someone suggest a modem (with software) for my NeXTstation
running 2.1 along with the following info:
. price
. any cable(s) I need to set it up
. address from where I buy it
. any experience setting it up
Thanks.
Deep Medhi
Univ of Missouri-Kansas City
dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu
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From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu (Marcelo Rodrigues)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Unreliable compressed file transfer from floppy on White
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:49:29
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <marcelor.35.0011D3A9@acs.bu.edu>
Hello,
On many occasions I have tried to transfer compressed files (.gz or .Z) from
floppies to the hard disk without succes. ( I am mentioning compressed files
because I can verify this right away ...) If I copy the files and then use the
proper utility to uncompress, often I will get a checksum error. If I try to
uncompress again I get the same message. However , if I destroy this file
and copy it again from the same floppy I usually succeed in uncompessing it.
***This leads me to believe that there is a problem with the floppy subsystem
,i.e.,the drivers.***
Today I am trying unsuccessfully to transfer a 10MB tar-red (not compressed)
file that has been processed by GNU's split to break down the whole binay into
eight files which I then copy to floppies on another machine. When I transfer
and reconstruct by using cat , things get screwd. OK, this may not be the right
way for doing this, but files get screwed even when, on other
occasions,I transfer a small file that fits on one disk, originally
tar-red or not. As I said , sometimes I succed on these small files.
So, has anyone experienced problems transfering files from floppies ?
M.R.
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From: camm@enhanced.com (Camm Maguire)
Subject: SOCKS and NS 2.1
Message-ID: <D1w8G4.2pA@tigger.jvnc.net>
Sender: news@tigger.jvnc.net (Zee News Genie)
Organization: Enhanced Investment Technologies
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:24:04 GMT
Greetings! Has anyone gotten SOCKS to compile under NeXTSTEP? I seem
to have compiled at least rftp, but I get a gethostbyname error when I
try to use it to connect to any host, even though nslookup returns the
correct address for the host. I'm using BIND for the name lookup, with
the appropriate nameserver specified in /etc/resolv.conf.
I think this problem arises from NetInfo blocking the normal operation
of gethostbyname, but I'm not sure. I wish I could turn NetInfo off,
but I can't seem to do this without disabling the machine. Can anyone
please help here?
Thanks!
Camm
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Breaking in to the NeXT workforce... how?
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 16:00:38 GMT
Message-ID: <D1w1t3.210@ritz.mordor.com>
Greetings, fellow NeXT users.
I'm a relative newbie to the NeXT world, having bought my NeXTstation
only three months ago. In that time, I've grown to truly respect not only
the operating system and its associated development environment, but also
the professional community surrounding it. As such, I've been
entertaining the idea of joining this community.
However, as my only experience with NS is at home, teaching myself
development from the "Step One" book, I'm curious as to how difficult
this will be. I hold a bachelor's of engineering from McGill, and I have
two years working experience after graduation, mostly with Windows-based
PC's but I have had some Unix sysadmin tasks as well.
Is it advisable to seek further study, such as a master's degree? If so,
which schools offer such training? Or, is it better to just find a
company which has NS and start in a different area, and transition to NS?
Finally, would it be better/more sensible to keep NS as a hobby and
continue to work in other fields?
I'd be grateful for any information and/or opinions. I'm not thinking
about moving out of my current job just yet, but I'd like to see how to
steer my career in this direction.
Thanks
Matt
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From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: InstantTeX
Date: 4 Jan 1995 11:28:53 -0800
Message-ID: <3eestl$4rc@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <3ee5go$heb@melimelo.enst-bretagne.fr>
Keywords: TeX
snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr (Dominique SNYERS) writes:
>Since the first of January InstantTeX refuses to work with the following
>message:
>"Sorry this version of InstantTeX has expired. Please contact
>Dmitri@StarConn.com to find out how to obtain a new version."
The latest version of InstantTeX was uploaded to /pub/next/submissions at
ftp.cs.orst.edu a few days ago. It might still be in there. Check it out.
Pitak
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From: me@iwo.cube.net (Marquardt)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Message-ID: <D1w8H4.FG@iwo.cube.net>
Organization: IWO
References: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:24:40 GMT
DougMoore wrote:
: If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any bugs...
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one thing has changed:
If you drag the File Viewer window of WorkspaceManager from the ND
color monitor over to the MegaPixelDisplay dragging gets very slow.
This is because it is dithered from 12bit to 2bit with every movement of
the mouse. With other color windows this doesn't happen (mabye they are
24bit) as they are copied onscreen of the MegaPixel.
Except from this I didn't notice any changes concerning the ND.
So long
Christoph
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From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:49:05 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3eeu3h$kee@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3ecfk2$kps@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <3ecfk2$kps@digifix.digifix.com> Karen Logsdon
<Karen_Logsdon@NeXT.COM> writes:
:
:FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
(stuff deleted)
:
:MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT
:OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
:
(stuff deleted)
I couldn't resist: Is this the same guy as "Yam Can Cook"?
;-) ;-)
(I know, I know the _real_ guy's name is "Martin _Yan_", but the similarity
is too much to pass up!)
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From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Graphics Acceleration
Date: 4 Jan 95 12:50:54
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jan4125054@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu> <3e1a5p$kus@potogold.rmii.com>
In-reply-to: dan@opensource.com's message of 30 Dec 1994 15:49:13 GMT
How much better is the #9GXE than Diamond, if both are for PCI-bit?
There is a test result for dos/windows in which the #9GXE is almost
twice faster than the Diamond. Is it true that ATI is always the best
for NeXTSTEP, though, not true for dos/windows.
Is there any NeXT developer writing a driver for Matrox graphics
cards?
After seeing its performance in computer shows, I bought a Matrox
PCI-64 Impression II w/ 2MB VRAM for a Micron 486-66. It is sooooo
fast comparing a ATI VLB-32 UP w/ 2MB VRAM on a ALR 586-60 that almost
made me have a hart attack. :-) I dream that the Matrox card will work
for NeXTSTEP!
FYI, I enclose the Benchmark Ziff-Davis' WinBench® Version 4.0 for
these two systems.
To save your time, they are simplified as follows:
Matrox: Graphics WinMark 16.3 Million Pixels/Sec
ATI: Graphics WinMark 0.847 Million Pixels/Sec
Regards,
Zhao
******************* MICRON 486-66 Matrox-PCI/64 *****************
REQUIRED DISCLOSURE
Benchmark Ziff-Davis' WinBench® Version 4.0
Operating System MS-DOS 6.22
Windows System Windows 3.10 Enhanced Mode
Computer Micron
Processor Intel 486DX2-66
Processor RAM 16 MB
Video Driver mga16.drv 3.10 Thu Aug 18 02:00:00 1994 Size:
163712
Video Adapter Matrox MGA 16-bit 65K Colors
Video VRAM 2 KB
Video Refresh Rate ? Hz
Video Mode 800 X 600 16 bits/pixel
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Description Current Results
Time Wed Jan 04 11:17:20 1995
Graphics WinMark 16.3 Million Pixels/Sec
TEST Current Results UNITS
Combined GWM1 17.2 [1,2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM2 4.69 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM3 8.14 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM4 19.7 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM5 21.6 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM6 20.2 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM7 13 [2] Million Pixels/Sec
********************* ALR 586-60 ATI-mach32 *********************
REQUIRED DISCLOSURE
Benchmark Ziff-Davis' WinBench® Version 4.0
Operating System MS-DOS 5.0
Windows System Windows 3.10 Enhanced Mode
Computer ALR
Processor Pentium
Processor Speed 60 MHz
Off-Chip Processor Cache ? KB
Processor RAM 16 MB
Video Driver mach-H6.drv 3.10 Fri Mar 19 18:10:54 1993 Size:
25696
Video Adapter mach32 Driver
Video VRAM 2 KB
Video Refresh Rate ? Hz
Video Mode 800 X 600 16 bits/pixel
Graphics WinMark 0.847 Million Pixels/Sec
TEST Current Results UNITS
Combined GWM1 18.2 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM2 4.27 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM3 6.71 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM4 8.7 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM5 0.673 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM6 0.443 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
Combined GWM7 8.67 [1] Million Pixels/Sec
NOTES
The following Windows tasks were running during this test: ATIKEY.EXE,
POINTER.EXE, PROGMAN.EXE, WBRUN20.EXE, WBRUN20.EXE, WINFILE.EXE
From: indy@griffin.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C. F. Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 21:04:54 GMT
Organization: EthnoGraphics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ef2hm$rkj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <D1w8H4.FG@iwo.cube.net>
In article <D1w8H4.FG@iwo.cube.net> me@iwo.cube.net (Marquardt) writes:
> DougMoore wrote:
> : If so, how's it work? good, bad, faster, slower, notice any bugs...
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one thing has changed:
> If you drag the File Viewer window of WorkspaceManager from the ND
> color monitor over to the MegaPixelDisplay dragging gets very slow.
> This is because it is dithered from 12bit to 2bit with every movement of
> the mouse. With other color windows this doesn't happen (mabye they are
> 24bit) as they are copied onscreen of the MegaPixel.
>
> Except from this I didn't notice any changes concerning the ND.
OK, several things:
1) window dragging between displays on our dual-headed system is noticably
slower. In fact, all window dragging feels slower. Time for more ND RAM?
2) I thoroughly bombed the Cube trying to do some video grabs. NeXTtv,
VideoApp, and a customized version of VideoApp all croaked he system.
However, a recompile of VideoApp and Capture.app seemed to solve the
problem. There may have been another cause that I'm not aware of, because
3.2 Developer didn't change, but maybe some libraries did.
3) We had to re-install Transys PNI after the 3.3 ugrade in order to get
back on the Net. Works OK now (obviously!)
ND users and owners: please feel free to send me your problems and fixes,
as well as hot tips, for the forthcoming 2nd Edition of The NeXTdimension
Compendium!
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 20:44:58 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ef1cb$3rp@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com> borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve
Borrelli) writes:
> In article <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>,
> Fred Schenkelberg <fms@chemelex.com> wrote:
> >3.3 on ND.... no problems here, one issue surrounding host name
> >resolution for net access via a slip connection...
>
> I have this problem, too. When I send outgoing mail, it bounces
> back with a host name lookup failure. Has anyone had this problem, or
> (better yet) solved it?
The 3.3 upgrade probably updated /etc/sendmail.cf - well, actually,
that's a link to some other file which the upgrade probably changed.
Find out who it's a link to, then edit that file to replace the
"mailhost" with the name of your mailhost. (The upgrader probably
saved your old sendmail file, so you can search it for the name of
your mailhost if you don't know.)
The other way to fix this is to create a hosts entry with HostManager
for whoever is your mailhost, and give it an alias of "mailhost" -
this has the advantage of not breaking when the sendmail files are
updated, but it requires knowing the ip address of your mailhost, so
if it's ip address ever changes, you have to update your hosts entry.
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From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
References: <D1onCp.D1q@news.cis.umn.edu> <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com> <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:54:49 GMT
Message-ID: <D1wCnD.86C@ritz.mordor.com>
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
In article <D1v13z.5K8@ritz.mordor.com>,
Steve Borrelli <borrelli@ritz.mordor.com> wrote:
>In article <D1u81E.4Hv@chemelex.com>,
>Fred Schenkelberg <fms@chemelex.com> wrote:
>>3.3 on ND.... no problems here, one issue surrounding host name
>>resolution for net access via a slip connection...
>
>I have this problem, too. When I send outgoing mail, it bounces
>back with a host name lookup failure. Has anyone had this problem, or
>(better yet) solved it?
>
>_Steve
>
Yes, I've noticed this problem, Steve, and I've been using the (ugh!)
Unix mail program while trying to figure it out. Anybody know what's
going on?
Matt
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From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
Date: 4 Jan 1995 23:35:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3efbbm$sr5@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3eeu3h$kee@digdug.pencom.com>
Robin D. Wilson writes
> :MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT
> :OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
> :
> I couldn't resist: Is this the same guy as "Yam Can Cook"?
> (I know, I know the _real_ guy's name is "Martin _Yan_"...
Well, I'm glad somebody mentioned it. It was begging to be said. .
What I found interesting is that Yan Can Cook is broadcast in Asia over
Star Satellite Network (along with Donahue and Baywatch :-).
Hmm, maybe we should have NeXT's Martin do a competing TV show called
"Yam Cam Program" or something like that, about how easy it is to build
sophisticated apps in the space of a single TV show. If nothing else,
it would make a great fifteen-minute parody. We could use it to
replace all those old NeXT vs. Sun videos...
-- Ernie P.
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
Date: 5 Jan 1995 00:07:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3efd8n$cua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3eeu3h$kee@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <3ecfk2$kps@digifix.digifix.com> Karen Logsdon
<Karen_Logsdon@NeXT.COM> writes:
>
> MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT
> OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
>
Does this mean that someone has left NeXT? Maybe one of the "W"'s
(Weiss, Weseman, Weismann - spelling guaranteed to be wrong :-)
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From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:56:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199501041800.SAA14000@beep.roadrunner.com>
Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell) wrote,
> Note that not everyone has seen a performance boost with
> the fatter libInterceptor_s.A.shlib... On one of our
> Intel P90 machines, the sound cuts out 3 or 4 times, and
> the video is slow (unsynced) with either version!
Did you (also) install the NEXTIME sound driver? For me, that
cured this problem.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Upgrade experience
Date: 5 Jan 1995 01:37:12 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3efig8$j49@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 3.3 Intel. I was worried by
all the talk about slow video on PCI machines. I still have the same
old EISA/VESA 486 DX2/66 (AMI Bios, SiS chipset) machine with
components compatible with 3.1:
ATI GUP Rev. 6
Adaptec 1540C SCSI controller
Fujitsu M2694ES-512 hard drive
Toshiba XM-3401TA CD-ROM
Fujitsu DynaMO M2511A 128MB magneto-optical drive
PAS 16 Basic
32MB RAM
MusicQuest PC-MIDI card
The news is that (almost) everything seems to work better than before,
but there are a few (small) things that are not quite as good as they
were. I'll report on the numbers obtained from BenchPress on this
machine with both 3.2 and 3.3 below.
The good news is that all the software I was worried about not
working, still works. Emacs 4.0, Mathematica 2.2, Phone 3.3, Stuart,
KPerfMon, Fiend, Gopher, PopOver, CryptorBundle1.2, ppp 2.2, Opener,
soundCheck, DefaultsSystem, PASPlus driver, all seem to work fine. (A
check of /usr/adm/messages reveals that something that ppp is doing
isn't recognized by the system, though. One line there reads: Jan 4
12:26:13 localhost mach: Command was an unknown control string
(add-multicast))
The moire pattern in my screen (Nanao F550i) seems to have gotten much
better with the new ATi driver. The dark band down the left side of
the screen hasn't. There are several new resolutions for 8-bit color
and 8-bit mono that also seem very nice. (Emacs.app doesn't like
8-bit color, and says "Screen has an unknown visual class" when it
lauches, but works great at the old 16-bit resolutions. )
CDPlayer.app now has the volume working with the Toshiba 3401. It
seems that the Adaptec 154x driver is very much better now.
Terminal.app has some of the features of Stuart now. The artwork
seems cleaner in some cases (Configure.app, for instance) and a bit
"louder" in others (The app icon for Terminal.app) I happen to like the
icon for PrintManager.app, but I can see that owners of black hardware
would be peeved by the white icons. (Are the icons on black the same
as on white?) All in all, I like the upgrade. I think NeXT has done
a great job with it. I'll keep everyone posted if I find something
soon that I DON'T like! (It seems that much of the information here
is negative, or at least people post problems more than success
stories, but that's to be expected!) Now for the numbers:
BenchPress Info:
NEXTSTEP Version 3.2 3.3 3.3 (8-bit color)
---------------------------------------------------------
Animate Tensor Logo: 178 141 177
Draw Color Ramps: 142 141 176
Draw Polygons: 108 111 243
Draw Lines: 111 109 199
Text Manipulation: 101 113 181
Image Scaling: 174 173 73
Image Decompression: 74 141 75
Image Compositing: 91 92 217
50 Threads: 91 54 53
100 Threads: N/A 63 63
Dhrystone: 240 240 242
Floating Point: 153 148 148
Integer: 260 260 261
Trigonometric: 667 678 675
Disk Seeking: 163 106 117
Disk Writing: 78 78 77
Disk Sequential Reads: 210 198 199
Disk Random Reads: 179 185 164
The above numbers were obtained in 1120 x 832 @ 68Hz in 16-bit color,
except for the last column, as noted.
Notice that the Threads test fell markedly. I don't really know what
to look for to see the effects of this on the system, though. If I had
more than one user, there might be a slowdown, I assume.
From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Tom Meyer's question on parallel port and HP-4MP setup
Date: 4 Jan 1995 21:20:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199501042023.UAA14611@beep.roadrunner.com>
> The only thing I
> can maybe see wrong is that in the system BIOS setup
> screen, you can choose the "LPT" port address for LPT1,
> and your only choice is "3BCH". I didn't see this address
> in the available addresses in the configure.app
I don't recall you mentioned what Intel-CPU machine you are using.
On this Epson NX it was/is necessary to go into the SetUp utility
(hit the <F2> key) at the start of the bootup. The choice here was
to choose the parallel port to be LPT2 (yes, LPT2) at 0x378. That
works with the HP-4ML (and the HP-DJ560C).
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NXFax Help
Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:26:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3efscq$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I installed NXFax and it does not work--the NXFax monitor says
"Looking for Driver"--the installation process said that installation
was sucessful. I usually use my modem with kermit--is this whwere the
problem lies? thanks in advance
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NXFax Help
Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:35:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3efsul$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
References: <3efscq$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Pat Martin (pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I installed NXFax and it does not work--the NXFax monitor says
: "Looking for Driver"--the installation process said that installation
: was sucessful. I usually use my modem with kermit--is this whwere the
: problem lies? thanks in advance
: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
Why is it necessary to use a third party driver--why doesn't
Mix Fax which comes on the machine work?
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Graphics Acceleration
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 08:38:39 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950105083023.7694B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu> <3e1a5p$kus@potogold.rmii.com> <ZHAO.95Jan4125054@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
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>=20
> After seeing its performance in computer shows, I bought a Matrox
> PCI-64 Impression II w/ 2MB VRAM for a Micron 486-66. It is sooooo
> fast comparing a ATI VLB-32 UP w/ 2MB VRAM on a ALR 586-60 that almost
> made me have a hart attack. :-) I dream that the Matrox card will work
> for NeXTSTEP!
>=20
This will never happen, because the Matrox cards use the wrong memory
managment system (wasn't it interleaved? I'm not sure here).
Really fast card, though.
> FYI, I enclose the Benchmark Ziff-Davis' WinBench=AE Version 4.0 for=20
> these two systems.
[test deleted]
I always doubt wether graphic benchmarks under Windows/MS-DOS are=20
transferable to other OSs. Isn't it this way: you plug an S3 (or other=20
graphics chip), some VRAM and a RAMDAC onto a board, wire it, ready.=20
The speed is done by the intelligence of the drivers. Some drivers use=20
internal features of some chips and have to be rewritten completely for=20
each new chip release (ok, this shouldn't concern _us_ :-) ).
Greetings Boerny.
___________________________________________________________________________=
__
Bernhard Scholz IRC: Boerny: #amiga, #ne=
xt
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Amiga Developer (MAD)
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (if nothing works) Aminet admin, WWW admin
Opinions are my own! (God said: E=3Dmc^2 and --- there was li=
ght)
From: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at (Mansuet Gaisbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: [Wanted] Public domain X11R[45] Server for NextDimension !
Date: 05 Jan 1995 09:18:44 GMT
Organization: IICM, Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MGAIS.95Jan5101844@pluto.tu-graz.ac.at>
Hi NeXT gurus out there!
I got a NeXTCube with a NeXTDimension graphics board running
NeXTStep 3.0. Now i am looking for a public domain X11R[45]
server, to use the cube as an X-terminal.
Does anyone know where to get one?
Thanks in advance
Mansuet
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Many pages to one printed page?
Date: 5 Jan 95 12:01:15 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.789307275@coricopat>
References: <3ec9ef$lgv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <1995Jan4.073812.20797@fokus.gmd.de>
fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes:
>In article <3ec9ef$lgv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> gfrancis@wizard (Greg Francis)
>writes:
>> This was mentioned a few months ago and I never saw any definitive
>answers.
>>
>> I would like to be able to take pages of postscript (LaTeX) pages and
>print several
>> postscript pages to one printed page.
>> ...
>I think '/usr/bin/psnup' should solve your problem. Look at 'man psnup'.
>Robert.
It does. However, it results in scaled PostScript fonts, which do not
look very good. You can
a) use PostScript fonts through LaTeX's "times" documentstyle
b) use a different resolution via dvips -D
c) use the 2up.sty LaTeX style.
The latter took me a while to get it to work, if you don't like
a) I suggest trying b) first. Haven't done it myself yet, so
I can't specify details. It's on my list though.
Hope this helps,
Chris
--
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Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: chris@sucre.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Suggestion , Intel portable system
Date: 5 Jan 1995 13:31:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <3egsbt$sgi@taloa.unice.fr>
I'm looking for a serious portable PC solution (I don't want any problem
if it is possible...) with NSI 3.2 (and 3.3 of course). Could anyone mail
me a tested configuration that isn't in the hardware guide ?
-----------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer)
Subject: (more) HP 4MP / ParallelPort driver problems
Message-ID: <1995Jan5.160403.15635@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:04:03 GMT
probably boring you all to tears, but....
I've finally got my parallel port talking to my new printer after doing
the following:
- change the BIOS setting to LPT2 / 378H IRQ 7
- installed the new ParallelPortDriver (Par.config, v.1.1) from
NextAnswers
- got the HP 4MP ppd file from Adobe
What happens now is that I get PostScript timeouts every time I try to
print. I've change the source for the drive to supposedly set the timeout
longer the 2 seconds, but when I try to print, the debugging messages I've
also enabled still say that the timeout is 2 seconds. It's timing out on
the "close" of the pp0 port, if that makes a difference.
I've also tried all the permutations of the actual printer config settings
I would think matter (Parallel port speed, "Advanced Functions", Dedicated
PS vs. Auto "perssonality" switching) and nothing seems to help.
Anyone got any ideas ??
thanks,
-tom
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
tmeyer@mcs.com
From: subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-)
Date: 5 Jan 1995 19:31:01 GMT
Organization: Workstation Systems Division, Hewlett-Packard
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ehhdl$gtb@tadpole.fc.hp.com>
References: <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> <peterk.0321@combo.adsp.sub.org>
In article <peterk.0321@combo.adsp.sub.org>,
Dr. Peter Kittel <peterk@combo.ganesha.com> wrote:
>In article <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> stimpy@gladding.demon.co.uk (Tim Gladding) writes:
>>
>>ARRRRGGGHHH!!!
>>
>>Look... stop asking for bloody reposts to something that shouldn't have
>>been posted in the first place!!
>>
>>Please note, this is going out across no less than SEVEN news groups, and
>>is starting to PISS ME OFF.
>
>That's the point: All this whining about some really harmless posts
>of *small* binaries already takes a multifold of the volume of these
>incriminated posts! This is insane. So better stop this whining and
>be a bit more tolerant. It doesn't pay to act furiously.
Yup. Which is precisely what I said in my first followup.
-Kartik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Subject: HP ScanJet IIcx and a SyQuest 270 = problems. Why ?
Message-ID: <D1wKLo.o6@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 22:46:36 GMT
Hi,
I have an external SyQuest 270MB (ID3) directly attached to the SCSI
Adapter (Adaptec 1542CF). Attached directly to the SyQuest, I have a
ScanJet IIcx (ID6) that's terminated with the terminator that came with
the ScanJet (SCSI I).
Now the problem is that when I try to use my SyQuest, it reports lots of
hardware problems (I/O) and screws up my files. When I disconnect my HP
ScanJet and put an active Teminator on the SyQuest (SCSI II), the SyQuest
the works like a dream.
When the two are connected, if the SyQuest doesn't work, the ScanJet works
perfectly.
It is too much of a drag to connect and disconnect the two (I have to shut
down the machine before that).
Wouldn't there be a way to correct this ?
Do I need to buy another terminator for the ScanJet ?
Does anyone have any clue about this ?
Thanks to e-mail me your answers. I'll post a summary
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=)
Subject: PPP woes
Message-ID: <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 19:53:58 GMT
I am trying to get PPP working on an Intel NEXTSTEP machine.
I have followed the installation process without any problems,
but I can not get "chat" to log me into the remote system.
In fact, I can't get it to dial the modem.
The following pppd command (and all others that I have tried)
genterate an error message in the console:
pppd connect 'chat -v "" at&F2 "OK" atdt7255100' cufc 38400
They generate the messages:
Jan 5 08:41:34 opus pppd[614]: Connect script failed
Jan 5 08:41:34 opus chat[616]: Can't get terminal parameters: No such device
cufc is the serial port that I use with Kermit, and it works fine.
I have Mux 1.5 installed and I am using PPP 2.2-0.1.6.
I managed to log into the terminal server and run ppp there, then getting
out of kermit and running pppd. And, nothing happenned. The pppd
task doesn't seem to run. Basically can't get anything to
work properly, even thought the installation process seemed to go well.
If anyone has experienced similar problems and/or has any helpful tips,
I'd be gratefull to hear them.
/\/\ike
mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
From: nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Question on NeXT external CD drive...
Date: 6 Jan 1995 00:11:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3ei1sd$l6f@agate.berkeley.edu>
As a proud owner of a nice, dependalbe NeXTstation, I am still proud
to say that it remains the most USEFUL computer around. Unfortunatly, I'm
getting really jealous of all those great games on the PCs. So, probalby in
the next few months, I'll break down and buy myself an Intel machine, as a
compliment (not a replacement) to my current machine.
The questions I have, though, involve the NeXT external SCSI CD
drive. Is it possible to use this on a PC? What drivers/software
required?
Also, how difficult is it to get a clone to use my NeXT priniter buy
bying an ethernet card and hooking the two computers together?
--
Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@orodruin.cs.berkeley.edu
It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing
Fun with anagrams: computer science -> coerce inept scum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: razor@net23.com (Razor)
Subject: PROBS WITH SERIAL PORT AND CANNON BJC-600E
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 02:51:11 GMT
Message-ID: <D1yqLD.9qv@news2.new-york.net>
Hey all..
I recently got a cannon bjc-600e color inkjet printer. I immediately
downloaded and installed DOTS unlicensed. It printed fine, except with a line
through everything. Then I bought a color license from DOTS and installed it.
However, on turning my INTEL NS 3.2 System off an then back on (hard reset)
It would no longer recognize pp0 when booting. It said IO_Parralel_Port not
found. When I soft rebooted it found it, but now I can't print at all
anymore... Anyone have any idea what the problem is? Please email replies to
razor@net23.com
Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: Mail app using /usr/spool/mqueue?
Message-ID: <1995Jan6.131220.22399@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:12:20 GMT
References: <3ecbv1$856@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <3ecbv1$856@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> woo@ornl.gov writes:
>Is it possible to set Mail app so that it leaves the mail in
>/usr/spool/mqueue or wherever rather than moving it into Active.mbox?
>
/usr/spool/mail.
Several iterations ago (2.1?) Mail.app did leave the file in the mail
directory but it also copied it to Active.mbox. At this point I do not
recall how you got rid of it. There may have been an option to copy or
move. It has been a while.
I guess some clever individual thought it would be an improvement to
delete the file once Mail.app grabs it. It should be a preference,
don't you think? The current scheme is only acceptable if Mail.app is
your only mail reader.
Anyhow, in my mail at home is a reference to the name of the program
that grabs the mail. I thought I might be able to replace that program
with the same one from 2.1, but I never got around to it. If you look
in the wrapper for Mail.app you will see it. The name as I recall is
obvious. If it turns out not to be, write to me at venetia and I will
get it for you. Whether this will actually work or not is another
question.
Since I do not get a lot of NEXTMail I mostly use BSD mail and so this
has not been a problem. When I do have to read NEXTMail, I copy my mail
file to a backup and restore it after Mail.app deletes it. Whether you
can do this or not depends on what privileges you have on the system.
You ought, at least, to be able to copy the file somewhere.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: C.J.Ridd@cs.bham.ac.uk (Chris Ridd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-)
Date: 6 Jan 1995 16:21:50 GMT
Organization: NHS Information Management Centre
Message-ID: <3ejqmu$r8m@percy.cs.bham.ac.uk>
References: <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> <peterk.0321@combo.adsp.sub.org> <3ehhdl$gtb@tadpole.fc.hp.com>
I missed the original posting, could someone repost it please? ;-)
(For the humour impaired, please DON'T)
--
--Chris
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From: hoff@billbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
Date: 6 Jan 1995 19:20:01 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Sender: hoff@billbach (Holger Hoffstaette)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ek551$8e9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <3eeu3h$kee@digdug.pencom.com> <3efd8n$cua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3efd8n$cua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
>In article <3ecfk2$kps@digifix.digifix.com> Karen Logsdon
><Karen_Logsdon@NeXT.COM> writes:
>>
>> MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT
>> OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
>>
> Does this mean that someone has left NeXT? Maybe one of the "W"'s
>(Weiss, Weseman, Weismann - spelling guaranteed to be wrong :-)
Exactly - it's Bill Wesemann, the guy who left for ParcPlace some time
ago. Check out gopher://parcbench.parcplace.com, somewhere under
'Corporate Info:Press releases'. Marketing at it's best.
According to them, Mr. Yam has left PP to join a 'startup company'. :)
Holger
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From: hoff@billbachdarmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
Date: 6 Jan 1995 19:47:59 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Sender: hoff@billbach (Holger Hoffstaette)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ek6pf$8lk@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <3eeu3h$kee@digdug.pencom.com> <3efd8n$cua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3ek551$8e9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
Summary: The Martians buy Taligent! Film at eleven!
This is getting silly, but hey, this is USENET... :)
In article <3ek551$8e9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> writes:
>In article <3efd8n$cua@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
>art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
>>In article <3ecfk2$kps@digifix.digifix.com> Karen Logsdon
>><Karen_Logsdon@NeXT.COM> writes:
>>>
>>> MARTIN YAM JOINS NeXT AS VICE PRESIDENT
>>> OF WORLDWIDE SALES AND MARKETING
>>>
>> Does this mean that someone has left NeXT? Maybe one of the "W"'s
>>(Weiss, Weseman, Weismann - spelling guaranteed to be wrong :-)
>
>Exactly - it's Bill Wesemann, the guy who left for ParcPlace some time
>ago. Check out gopher://parcbench.parcplace.com, somewhere under
>'Corporate Info:Press releases'. Marketing at it's best.
>According to them, Mr. Yam has left PP to join a 'startup company'. :)
#import <rumors/conspiracy.h>
While you're there, check for the press release dated 1/10/94,
'ParcPlace to support SunSoft's Project DOE'.
Is this another piracy coup? I mean, look at the facts:
- Distributed Smalltalk (totally CORBA) comes from HP
- NEXTSTEP runs on HP workstations
- NeXT, Sun and DEC play the OpenStep game
- NeXT and ParcPlace exchange coaches
Sigh. Aren't we living in interesting times? I mean, what's NeXT ?
Bill Gates buying DEC (don't laugh)? Cairo falls to OpenStep?
Oh well. All together now (with apologies to Peter da Silva) :
'Have you hugged your Tribble today?'
:)
Holgi
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Holger Hoffstätte // [EMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: tajan@Worl-net.sct.fr (Silvere TAJAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Date: 6 Jan 1995 20:26:36 GMT
Organization: World-Net - Dialup Internet - Paris - France
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References: <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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In article <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes:
> I am trying to get PPP working on an Intel NEXTSTEP machine.
> I have followed the installation process without any problems,
> but I can not get "chat" to log me into the remote system.
> In fact, I can't get it to dial the modem.
I've got the same problem but on black hardware...
Is there any well interfaced PPP software on NS???
---------------------------
Silvere TAJAN
tajan@World-net.enst.fr
From: jraymond@rit.com (Jayson M. Raymond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How does NeXTstep guess my terminal?
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 12:03:07 -0800
Organization: Raymond Interactive Theare, Ltd.
Message-ID: <jraymond-0601951203070001@stage_mgr.rit.com>
Although I've looked all through the man pages, I can't seem to figure out
how NeXTstep determines my terminal type. I've looked on rtfm.mit.edu but
have been unable to find a NeXT FAQ to look this up. Any suggestions the
Net intelligence may have would be greatly appreciated, as I need to
include a similar capability into my application.
Thanks in advance -
--Jayson
jraymond@rit.com
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Date: 6 Jan 1995 23:12:31 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3ekiov$p04@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC,m68k,HP,NEXTSTEP
Hello all,
I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0 (protected
mode). Insignia says that the market is a dead-end for black and too
young for HP. So I want to see if there are enough of us out here that may
give Insignia a reason to make the port. They are working on protected
mode for the other Unix OS's and Mac and it should not be to hard to get
it moved from white NS to black NS (and HP). Please email me your name
organization and upper bound for price that you will consider for the
product and the number of licenses you need. I will forward this info to
the marketing manager here in the US. If you are behind some kind of
firewall please find some way to get the info to me. I think it is best
not to flood the News with this so send the info to me. I will respect
everybody's privacy. I will send the list to Insignia in two weeks.
Alan
PS. recruit a friend!
------Format--------
Name Org. Price/unit. Units/Black Units/HP
A. Barhorst Texas Tech U. $200 US 1 1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Message-ID: <1995Jan7.001518.15029@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3ek91s$e83@sct1.sct.fr>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 00:15:18 GMT
In article <3ek91s$e83@sct1.sct.fr> tajan@Worl-net.sct.fr (Silvere TAJAN)
writes:
> I've got the same problem but on black hardware...
> Is there any well interfaced PPP software on NS???
I got PPP 2.2-0.1.6 working on my black slab (NS 3.2) with no trouble.
Post your pppup script (not including passwords) or send it to me in mail
and maybe we can figure out what's wrong. Also, some details of your
configuration would help: version of NS, type of modem, other modem
software in use, etc.
--
Royce Howland, Object Systems Group
howlandr@cadvision.com
Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (PanCanadian Petroleum)
I speak, but not for OSG or PCP.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads)
Subject: Does NeXTSTEP 3.3 Support SONY IDE CD-ROM?
Message-ID: <jrhoadsD20oME.EA2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 04:03:49 GMT
Does anyone know if NeXTSTEP 3.3 supports SONY's IDE CD-ROM?
(Model CDU-55E). Please e-mail to the address below. Thanks for
your help!
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Jason R. Rhoads
Frontier Technology Inc.
530 E. Montecito St., Suite 105
Santa Barbara, CA 93103-3245
Phone: (805)-965.2477
Fax: (805)-965.2478
email: jrhoads@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Barth)
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Message-ID: <1995Jan7.104251.26068@ccc.amdahl.com>
Sender: netnews@ccc.amdahl.com (UTS Tech Support)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
References: <3ek91s$e83@sct1.sct.fr>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 10:42:51 GMT
In article <3ek91s$e83@sct1.sct.fr> tajan@Worl-net.sct.fr (Silvere TAJAN)
writes:
> In article <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
> mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes:
>
> > I am trying to get PPP working on an Intel NEXTSTEP machine.
> > I have followed the installation process without any problems,
> > but I can not get "chat" to log me into the remote system.
> > In fact, I can't get it to dial the modem.
>
> I've got the same problem but on black hardware...
>
> Is there any well interfaced PPP software on NS???
>
> ---------------------------
> Silvere TAJAN
> tajan@World-net.enst.fr
Im on black using PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz on NeXTSTEP 3.2.
I had the same problem that my pppup script wouldn't even dial the modem
-- never could figure it out *but* I discovered if I ran chat by hand as
follows, then pppup again, my modem would dial and everything worked!?!
/usr/local/ppp/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
DIALTONE" ABORT "ERROR" ABORT "Login incorrect" "" ATZ0 "OK"
ATDT_PHONENUM_ CONNECT "" ogin:--ogin: PPPID ssword: PPPID_PASSWD Last ""
This will eventually timeout, and then I can use my pppup script:
+ cat /usr/local/ppp/scripts/pppup
#!/bin/sh
set -x
# -*- Fundamental -*-
#
# kdebug 1 is SC_DEBUG
# 2 is SC_LOG_INPKT
# 4 is SC_LOG_OUTPKT
# 8 is SC_LOG_RAWIN
# 16 is SC_LOG_FLUSH
#
# add together to get debugging you want
# Remember: for HW flow control you must you /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb
#
#
# This is an example that dials a modem, logs into a remote Annex
terminal
# server and starts ppp.
#
# kjb ---- attempted to modify for use here in WWCSC
exec /usr/local/ppp/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 296 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 3 debug -crtscts kdebug 17 name pppuser defaultroute
modem -pap -chap \
connect '/usr/local/ppp/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT
"NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATZ0 "OK" ATDT_PHONENUM_ CONNECT ""
ogin:--ogin: PPPID ssword: PPPID_PASSWD Last "" ' \
/dev/cua 19200 lock
I hope this helps,
Kevin
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How does NeXTstep guess my terminal?
Date: 7 Jan 1995 14:35:00 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3em8qk$9q@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <jraymond-0601951203070001@stage_mgr.rit.com>
In article <jraymond-0601951203070001@stage_mgr.rit.com> jraymond@rit.com
(Jayson M. Raymond) writes:
> Although I've looked all through the man pages, I can't seem to figure
> out how NeXTstep determines my terminal type. I've looked on
> rtfm.mit.edu but have been unable to find a NeXT FAQ to look this up.
> Any suggestions the Net intelligence may have would be greatly
> appreciated, as I need to include a similar capability into my
> application.
Terminal query is not a NeXTSTEP specific subject so you should look for
a more general source of information. A program doing such is qterm 6.0 of
which I have included a part of the README:
------ QUOTE ON ------
Qterm is a program that queries terminals to find out what kind of
terminal is responding. It is useful to automagically define your
terminal type. It prints the name of the terminal (compatible,
hopefully, with a termcap/terminfo name) such as "vt100" to standard
output. See the manual for details.
------ QUOTE OFF ------
Look for the full source-code in ftp://usc.edu/pub/qterm/qterm.tar.z.
Filip
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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A programmer's think-tank - info@filtronix.eunet.be (NeXTmail OK!)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tseg@access1.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-DC-Washington; Job opening for NeXT Step, Objective C; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 7 Jan 1995 09:02:48 -0500
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., MD USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3em6u8$d3f@access1.digex.net>
Summary: Long term assignment, Excellent environment
Keywords: NeXT Step, Objective C, Local Telephone Switch 5, SONET
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants.
One opening with the following experiences:
Required Desired
--------------------------------------------------------------------
C++ Objective C
UNIX Next Step
Moderate (2+ years) OOD experience Heavy (4+ years) OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS CS/Eng.
4+ years commercial experience 7+ years commercial experience
DMS 100 simmon ED/SD
Remaining openings require all of the above plus:
Local Telephone Company experience
Service supervisioning for class 5 (local) switch
Sync Optical Network (SONET)
Please fax your resumes to (301)829-2813 or send your correspondence
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: jraymond@rit.com (Jayson M. Raymond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTstep doesn't guess my terminal... qterm does.
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 06:24:21 -0800
Organization: Raymond Interactive Theare, Ltd.
Message-ID: <jraymond-0701950624210001@stage_mgr.rit.com>
Thank you all for your suggestions, I appreciate the time spent to help me
track this down. As it turns out, our system administrator had placed the
following into /etc/cshrc.std:
set term=`/usr/local/bin/qterm`
Which, as Filip pointed out, is a great tool used to determine the
terminal type someone is calling from. A special thanks to Steve Hayman at
NeXT who responded instantly, and through multiple e-mails, helped me to
track it down.
Thanks again, all -
--Jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: oliverm@netcom.com (Moises Oliveira)
Subject: NeXT Sitings...
Message-ID: <olivermD21wDB.AnC@netcom.com>
Sender: oliverm@netcom.com ( )
Organization: OODC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:48:47 GMT
Has anyone seen last Sitings episode. Yesterday I got the
end of it, and they were interviewing UCLA professor Dr. Hawkins,
describing how he was using music notes in his attempt to decypher
any message that extra-terrestrial beings may be leaving on
those "CROP CIRCLES", what was interesting is that the
professor is using a NeXT "Black Hardware", to compose music,
he even went as far as playing the music on his NeXT, (what a
nice CD quality sound :-), and here I was thinking, that the black
hardware was forever doomed. May be the UFO enthusiats may just
resurrect NeXT and make it the official computer for UFO research.
Well, just a thought...
--
---------------------------------------------------------
oliverm@netcom.com
---------------------------------------------------------
From: nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FAXing (Black hardware)
Date: 7 Jan 1995 20:14:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3emso3$iqb@agate.berkeley.edu>
I currently have an Intel 144/144e FAX modem that I currently use
only for data. I would like to use it to send/recieve faxes. What
additional software etc... do I need to aquire? (Running NeXTstep 3.2,
black)
--
Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@orodruin.cs.berkeley.edu
It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing
Fun with anagrams: computer science -> coerce inept scum
From: andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu (Andrew Barger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Date: 7 Jan 1995 20:59:01 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <3emval$cdh@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <1995Jan7.104251.26068@ccc.amdahl.com>
> Im on black using PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz on NeXTSTEP 3.2.
>
> I had the same problem that my pppup script wouldn't even dial the modem
> -- never could figure it out *but* I discovered if I ran chat by hand as
> follows, then pppup again, my modem would dial and everything worked!?!
>
I had the same problem with PPP, same package. Eventually, I found that
if I removed all the 'special' characters -- that is, characters such as
':' and '>' -- from the chat script it would dial just fine. Maybe this
will work, maybe not. (BTW, connecting works fine without including those
types of characters.)
-Andrew
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Date: 8 Jan 1995 01:18:54 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3enehu$4c5@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3emval$cdh@news.doit.wisc.edu>
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In article <3emval$cdh@news.doit.wisc.edu> andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu
(Andrew Barger) writes:
> I had the same problem with PPP, same package. Eventually, I found that
> if I removed all the 'special' characters -- that is, characters such as
> ':' and '>' -- from the chat script it would dial just fine. Maybe this
> will work, maybe not. (BTW, connecting works fine without including those
> types of characters.)
Yes, you have to be careful with some characters. Chat is executed in a
shell script where some characters have a special meaning in the shell (e.g.
'>', '<', '|'). PPP works like a charm for months on my machine.
Robert.
--
Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/
University of Munich
Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316
D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Kharim Hogan" <kharim@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: FAXing (Black hardware)
Message-ID: <1995Jan7.215301.21224@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
References: <3emso3$iqb@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:52:57 -0500
In article <3emso3$iqb@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Nicholas C. Weaver <nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>
> I currently have an Intel 144/144e FAX modem that I currently use
>only for data. I would like to use it to send/recieve faxes. What
>additional software etc... do I need to aquire? (Running NeXTstep 3.2,
>black)
I would strongly recommend purchasing NXFax from Black and White Software.
Their latest version supports the Intel modem. NXFax works flawlessly
and what's more, they offer excellent and prompt support. I have only
good things to say about both NXFax and B&W.
I believe you can reach them at: nxfax@bandw.com
Or by phone at: 1-802-496-8500
Hope this helps!
Kharim Hogan
From: ac0001@jove.acs.unt.edu (Austin Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Periphs <-> Mac ?
Date: 8 Jan 1995 07:25:24 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3eo414$4nr@hermes.unt.edu>
I know that NeXT keyboards and mice use a similiar protocol to Apple's
Desktop Bus, and thus are compatible with Mac CPU's and vice versa, but
how does the NeXT 17' colour monitor work with Macs? Does the different
refresh rate and resolution standards cause problems? It is possible and
usable at all via a hardware/software hack of some kind? How about the
NeXT 400-dpi laser? Is it compatible with Macintosh computers?
--
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ A U S T I N C H A N G
_/ _/ _/ ac0001 @ jove.acs.unt.edu
_/_/_/_/ _/ ****************************
_/ _/ _/ It doesn't matter if we all die
_/ _/ _/_/_/ Ambition in the back of a black car
From: wraith@engin.umich.edu (Ryan Arnold Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help with system panic during backup
Date: 7 Jan 1995 23:09:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3en6v4$9es@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I'm trying to back up to a tape drive using dump, and every time I
do it I get the following series of panics:
panic: (Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum
...
killing all processes
...
panic: (Cpu 0) thread_continue
This happens when dumping the regular files, when its between 30% and
90% being done. I've sucessfully backed up before, and don't think I'm
doing anything differently.
The longer this goes on, the more nervous I get not having a backup.
Any ideas or help or be greatly appreciated
--Ryan
wraith@engin.umich.edu
From: wraith@engin.umich.edu (Ryan Arnold Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help with Panic during backup
Date: 7 Jan 1995 23:32:13 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3en89t$9k8@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I'm trying to back up to a tape drive using dump, and every time I
do it I get the following series of panics:
panic: (Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum
...
killing all processes
...
panic: (Cpu 0) thread_continue
This happens when dumping the regular files, when its between 30% and
90% being done. I've sucessfully backed up before, and don't think I'm
doing anything differently.
The longer this goes on, the more nervous I get not having a backup.
Any ideas or help or be greatly appreciated
--Ryan
wraith@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: The NEXTSTEP/UNIX and Newton mail list.
Message-ID: <1995Jan7.032837.1520@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:28:37 GMT
The NEXTSTEP/UNIX and Newton mail list.
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=========================
The intended purpose is to be a clearinghouse for integrating
NEXTSTEP/UNIX and Newton computing environments.
Background
=========================
This list was created on December 31, 1994 in an effort to unite
NEXTSTEP/UNIX users who had need and interest in integrating Newton
and NEXTSTEP/UNIX environments.Further, the population is relatively
small. Thus, we encourage each new member to send a message to the
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=========================
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From: robbie@mindspring.com (Robbie Honerkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Differences between NeXT Models
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:42:26 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Atlanta GA
Message-ID: <robbie.16.005C94FE@mindspring.com>
Hi.. Currently I use a NeXT 040 cube, but I've seen posts referring to
NeXT Dimensions, Turbo NeXTs, etc.. This is probably a FAQ,
but ..... What's the difference between the NeXT models? I'd
like to get a NeXT to use at home, and I'm trying to decide what
to get.....
Thanks!
Robbie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Question on NeXT external CD drive...
Message-ID: <D23tEt.H7p@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3ei1sd$l6f@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:40:05 GMT
Nicholas C. Weaver (nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
: The questions I have, though, involve the NeXT external SCSI CD
: drive. Is it possible to use this on a PC? What drivers/software
: required?
The only concern is buying a NeXTSTEP-compatible SCSI card. The NeXT
CD-ROM works fine on any intel box, with any SCSI card that NeXTSTEP
supports.
: Also, how difficult is it to get a clone to use my NeXT priniter buy
: bying an ethernet card and hooking the two computers together?
Simple as a few mouse clicks.
Simply make a network (probably using your black box as the server).
Simply change the printer's entry to "public" and export it to the root
"/" domain using PrintManager. It should then show up in the Print panel
on both computers.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=)
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Message-ID: <D24812.2CI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3ek91s$e83@sct1.sct.fr>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 01:55:50 GMT
>In article <D1y79z.982@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
>mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes:
>
>> I am trying to get PPP working on an Intel NEXTSTEP machine.
>> I have followed the installation process without any problems,
>> but I can not get "chat" to log me into the remote system.
>> In fact, I can't get it to dial the modem.
Well thanks to everybody's help, I've got it working. I had not
double quoted some special characters in my chat script.
I had
... connect 'chat -v "" at&f2 ...'
When changed to
... connect 'chat -v "" "at&f2" ...'
it worked fine. In fact, when I changed that my script worked
on the first try. Almost makes me nervous:-)
/\/\ike
mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 03:54:20 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3eqc1c$oad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am having the following problems in 3.3 and Terminal:
wjabi@libra> talk hall@yvonne.arch.cuhk.hk
You don't exist. Go away.
wjabi@libra> talk wjabi ttyp2
You don't exist. Go away.
wjabi@libra> cat /etc/utmp
consolewjabi j/ wjabi@libra>
wjabi@libra> who am I
wjabi@libra> whoami
wjabi
wjabi@libra> who
wjabi console Jan 8 22:31
wjabi@libra>
Can you help? "Talk" is very important to me.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (Alberto DE-LORENZI)
Subject: CNC & CAM with NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D24x7J.LFF@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:59:41 GMT
We are a research center based in Switzerland (CIMSI, CIM della Svizzera
Italiana) and we are starting a new project under NEXTSTEP. Our goals are
the following:
- new flexible GUI for CNC machine;
- an API to communicate with different CNC;
- new simple programming concepts (CAM) for 2D, teaching and ev. 3D;
We want to know:
- there are other projects on this domain (CNC and CAM)?
- there are CAM programs running under NEXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance.
Alberto De-Lorenzi
*******************************************************
CIM della Svizzera Italiana
Centro Galleria
via Cantonale
6928 Manno
Switzerland
Tel +41 91 508106
Fax +41 91 508105
email: adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (NeXTMail welcome)
*******************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pdepuydt@uia.ac.be (Peter.Depuydt)
Subject: SLIP ??
Message-ID: <1995Jan9.113217.15551@reks.uia.ac.be>
Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System)
Organization: U.I.A.
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:32:17 GMT
Hya,
I'm currently running NS3.3 on HP VETCRA 486/XM
, and I want to set up a SLIP connection over a serial
modem connection. Is it possible to install it in such a way that connetions
are made automaticly when needed ??
I have found soft for it an the "Big Green CD" but it is only for Black hardware.
Let me know if there is a possibility to do such a thing on White Hardware...
--------------------------------------------------------------
Peter DEPUYDT E-mail : pdepuydt@uia.ua.ac.be
Student (Computer Science) at University of Antwerp (UIA)
Belgium / Europe
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Somethings eating my hard disk (a new space-eating bacteria?)
Date: 9 Jan 1995 11:35:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3er71c$2eso@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi there -
A quick post. I've had NS 3.3 loaded for about a week now. I started
out with 100MB of free space and now have 60.9. In fact, in the last 3 hours
it dropped from 64MB. I'm not doing anything. Are there some huge log
files being built somewhere? What command can I use to find all of the
hog files on the system? There appears to be some serious SAR activity
setup in the default installation. Any suggestions as how to turn this
off and reclaim the space? Thanks in advance.
Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 08:36:45 GMT
Message-ID: <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
References: <3ekiov$p04@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Alan A. Barhorst (alan@osci.me.ttu.edu) wrote:
: Hello all,
: I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
: hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0 (protected
: mode).
It might help you in your campaign if you get your terminology right (-:
SoftPC 3.0 on m68K already gives you protected mode - that's why it can run
Windows in Standard Mode. Protected mode was first introduced in the
Intel 286 processor.
I think what you're after is 386 emulation (which basically gives you 32
bit instructions, plus paging) and which allows you to run Windows in
Enhanced Mode.
Good luck!
Mike.
--
All present and future standard disclaimers apply
From: dicosmo@verveine.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP and NFS
Date: 09 Jan 1995 14:14:52 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <DICOSMO.95Jan9151452@verveine.ens.fr>
The subject says it all: is anybody using PPP able to run a NFS
connection over the PPP link satisfactorily?
I keep hanging my machine when accessing large files, and I am not
sure that the proble is in the PPP package (the same used by the other people
posting here, and pretty well organized and written :-))
I am connecting an HP Gecko with a 486 :-)
Thank you for any feedback!
--
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 14:29:13 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3erh7p$1rt@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk>
In article <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk
(Mike Moreton) writes:
> Alan A. Barhorst (alan@osci.me.ttu.edu) wrote:
> : Hello all,
> : I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
> : hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0
(protected
> : mode).
>
> It might help you in your campaign if you get your terminology right (-:
>
> SoftPC 3.0 on m68K already gives you protected mode - that's why it can
run
> Windows in Standard Mode. Protected mode was first introduced in the
> Intel 286 processor.
>
> I think what you're after is 386 emulation (which basically gives you 32
> bit instructions, plus paging) and which allows you to run Windows in
> Enhanced Mode.
Where can find the demo version of SoftPC 4.0 for Intel?
Anybody use it to run Matlab?
Mark
From: bill@otherwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:17:18 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using this
combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and I wonder
if it si just me or if others also have it.
Maybe 25-30% of the time the modem answers a fax call, the modem cannot
connect. I can hear the other modem/fax machine negotiating with mine, but
they do not seem to come to an agreement and they timeout. Sometimes if they
do connect the fax will fail with an "Unspecified phase D error" (or something
like that).
Even if the fax does come through I often get messages saying there were
scanline errors in the fax. The fax is generally still readable, but it will
have streaks on various scanlines.
Black and White Software has tried to be helpful, but they have basically
recommended ROM upgrades. The upgrades don't seem to help. I used to think
that the problem might be due to a noisy phone line, but I have moved cross
country and the problem has followed me.
This can be a real problem because often people try to send me a fax and they
don't notice the fax failed. It may not be until several weeks later that
they call asking about it. I have to tell them that I never received
anything.
So my question is do I have a lemon modem, or does everyone get these
problems. I would think that Fax technology was a bit more reliable.
---
Bill Tschumy
Otherwise
bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail and MIME accepted)
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP and NFS
Message-ID: <789663808.23@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:03:28 GMT
References: <DICOSMO.95Jan9151452@verveine.ens.fr>
Distribution: world
dicosmo@verveine.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) writes:
> The subject says it all: is anybody using PPP able to run a NFS
> connection over the PPP link satisfactorily?
it should work fine - as a suggestion, when you mount the
discs make the rsize and wsize less than the mtu of the link.
I think this was observed to be a bug in one version of PPP.
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:35:35 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ers57$luj@core.symnet.net>
References: <3eqc1c$oad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Wassim M. Jabi writes
> I am having the following problems in 3.3 and Terminal:
>
> wjabi@libra> talk hall@yvonne.arch.cuhk.hk
> You don't exist. Go away.
Use ytalk. You can get it from ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
Steve Dekorte
dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 18:43:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3es046$2ju@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3ers57$luj@core.symnet.net>
>Wassim M. Jabi writes
> I am having the following problems in 3.3 and Terminal:
>
> wjabi@libra> talk hall@yvonne.arch.cuhk.hk
> You don't exist. Go away.
The fact that "talk" is not working is a symptom of my
problem not the real cause. Here is my theory on what
is happening:
Under NS3.2 starting a Terminal shell generated
a ttypX entry in /etc/utmp which somehow identifies
who is logged in at what terminal.
Under NS3.3 Terminal does not do that anymore.
The result is that talk (when I initiated it)
tells me that I do not exist.
Even if I use ytalk, the responder to my talk
request will not be able to "see" my terminal
and know where I am logged in. It will fail
saying that my machine is refusing messages.
The solution might be to use "Stuart" instead
of Terminal. I'll have to try it.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics)
Subject: NeXTSTation monitor
Message-ID: <D25Ky9.BL9@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:32:32 GMT
I heard that NeXTStations monitors gradually fade. This is certainly happening
to mine. I can only read it in the dim light and it seems to be deteriorating
rapidly. I have two questions:
1. Do monochrome monitors on NeXTStations dim or fade over time?
2. Is a replacemnet monitor available?
Thanks for your help.
Wayne
:c
:q
From: kcb@coyote.caltech.edu (KC Border)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 21:26:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3es9m2$6lv@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In article <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes:
> In article <D1v4JG.3ry@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
writes:
> >
> >I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that my
> >"black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
>
> root.tiff and openRoot.tiff are located in
> /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app
>
> I colorized mine jet black and they stand out a
> lot better.
>
> Charlie Dvorak
Don't forget to replace
smallApp.tiff
defaultAppIcon.tiff
defaultDaemonIcon.tiff
defaultUnixIcon.tiff
defaultUnknownIcon.tiff
(also in /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app) which control how the Workspace
Manager displays theses files in Icon view.
BUT how do you change those icons for .bundle files??
--
Kim C. Border
Associate Professor of Economics
Division of the Humanities and Social Sciences
228-77
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, California 91125 USA
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3??? (SOLVED)
Date: 9 Jan 1995 22:31:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3esdgv$5qv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3es046$2ju@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Thanks for all who responded. The solution was indeed
hinted to in the Stuart.app manual (setuid to root)
which many consider a security hole. In any case,
what I had to do was very simple and was suggested by
Scott Hess:
basically, Terminal must be setuid root:
something like:
hostname> ls -l /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 237568 Aug 20 1993
/NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal*
If it is not like that, one must do something like:
hostname> su root
Password:
hostname# chmod u+s /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
That fixed it for me. Be careful, there seems to be
a lot of hazards to doing this, always consult someone who
knows if you don't (that's what I did).
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Message-ID: <D25y4r.K1I@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
References: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:17:14 GMT
In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com writes:
> Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using this
> combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and I
wonder
I have two ZyXEL and NXFax combos. At work, I can receive just fine, but
sending always garbles the fax. At home, I can send faxes joyfully but I
have never been able to get it to handshake and receive. Initial attempts
to solve both problems attained no successful result and I have my hands
full with an overburdened work agenda, so have been unable to isolate the
problems.
Anyone out there with similar problems and solutions?---thanks for
bringing it up, Bill.
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: recording telephone speech with ZyXEL
Date: 10 Jan 1995 03:18:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esuap$lhr@umd5.umd.edu>
Hi --
I have a U-1496E ZyXEL modem and NXFax 1.04. It works great for fax and
modem use, but now I find I need to record up to a half hour of speech
from the telephone to a .snd file. Once I have the sound on disk I can
then use one of the many sound editors out there to edit out what I need,
presumably. I've seen am.1.16 out on the archive sites but never used it.
Could I quickly fix this up to simply record sound, or is there some other
easier solution? I have a NeXTstation running NS 3.2.
Thanks,
Rod Price
rprice@reunion.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mike@media.mit.edu (Michael Hawley)
Subject: reading CD data
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.041643.22401@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.programmer
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 04:16:43 GMT
Has anyone got driver code handy to read audio data
directly off audio CD's?
thanks for any leads
Michael Hawley
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next
Subject: Hardware Guide
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 12:38:27 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950110123211.25814A-100000@hphalle10e.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
(Intel) Hardware Guide
FIRST NOTE:
I'm really i need of information of running intel based systems. Please
drop me a simple mail containing information about your hardware, if
you like this guide. Take a look at the tables and send me your hardware
datas. You'll be marked in the guide _only_ if _you_ want it!
GENERAL:
I'm looking for a new PC hardware for NeXTSTEP and encountered the dungle=
=20
of boards, cards, processors etc. When I asked for additional information=
=20
I had to realize that there is no hardware FAQ and the compatibility guide
bye NeXT is only covering bundled systems and certain hardware extensions.
Because I got several answers and some people asked for a list of compatibl=
e
hardware I am posting this draft list. The list isn't complete and I rely=
=20
on your help for further information.
I was trying to get all possible information about _available_ hardware.
I surely missed some manufactures and products. On most hardware components
I had no information. Included is the information _I_ thought it's most
important, more information might be available on request. Graphic adapters
are included to show more available cards with possible third party support=
.
If I missed a product or showed something wrong, feel free to drop me a mai=
l.
You can of course mail me, too, if you have enhancement suggestions,=20
hate this list, love this list, want to invite me for a drink, send pizza, =
...
This list is availble on WWW at: NOTE THE CHANGED ADR!
http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/hw.html.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!! !!!!!
!!!!! We'll soon offer full http access to our archive !!!!!
!!!!! For further information see: http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/ !!!!!
!!!!! !!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The list currently covers:
- motherboards (486, P60-100)
- monitors (Multiscan only)
- CD-ROM drives (SCSI only)
- SCSI-Host adapters (PCI only)
- Ethernet cards (PCI only)
- graphic adapters (PCI only)
- soundcards (not available, yet)
If anywhere is stated that a perticular hardware will be compatible with
NeXTSTEP, only the actual revision NS 3.3 is mentioned!
Additional hardware will be included on _your_ request, and if enough
information will be supplied by _you_ !
MOTHERBOARDS:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Shortcuts:
Bus: I =3D ISA, E =3D EISA, V =3D Vesa Local Bus, P =3D PCI
Ports: S =3D Serial, P =3D Parallel, M =3D Mouse, F =3D Floppy
Other: C =3D Compatible with NeXTSTEP
SCSI: A =3D AM79C974-R02, N =3D NCR810-R01, BIOS =3D SDMS-BIOS for NCR 810
=20
468 compatible
--------------
Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM =20
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Commen=
ts
Asus SP3 4--3 21-1 N/3.04 256/512 128 + Saturn2 A,B =
=20
Asus SP3G 4--3 2111 N/3.04 256/512 128 + Saturn2 B
Asus AP4 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
A: Holger Hofstaetter
B: Karsten Heinze Karsten.Heinze@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
Pentium 60/66
-------------
Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM =20
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Commen=
ts
AMI Excal. PCI-II 4--4 2111 -/3.04 512/512 512 ? SiS 1
Asus PCI/I-P5MP3 3 + Mercury A
Asus PCI/E-P5MP4 -4-4 ---- -/3.04 512/512 192 ? Mercury=20
Asus PCI/I-P5MP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Asus PCI/I-P5SP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ 503 4-23 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? Python 2
Chaintech 586IPI.4 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Compaq Desk.XL5/66 -4-2 2111 A/- 256/256 144 ? Mercury
Dell Opti. 560/L 3--1 2111 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
Elitegroup SI5PI-AIO 4--4 21-1 -/- 256/1024 128 ? SiS
FIC PM900 4--3 ---- -/3.04 256/256 192 ? Mercury
Gigabyte GA-586IM -5-4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Gigabyte GA-586AL 4--3 21-1 -/3.04 1024/1024 160 ? Aladin 2
Intel Batman II 5--4 21-1 -/3.00 256/256 128 ? Mercury
J-Bond PCI500C-A 4--4 ---- N/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Micronics M5PE -6-3 21-1 -/- 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Micronics M5Pi 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
MSI 586MC1 MS-5103 5--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
MSI Pentium AL 1 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/1026 160 ? Aladin 2
Shuttle HOT-523b 5-23 ---- -/3.04 256/512MB 128 ? Premium 2
SNI PCD-5H 3--2 2111 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
1: 128 Bit L2-Cache access
2: Opti Chipsets are known to have slow video.
A: Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de, kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de
Pentium 90/100
--------------
Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM =20
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Commen=
ts
ALR Evolut. V St 5--3 2111 -/- 256/256 264 ? Neptun =20
AMI Atlas PCI 4--4 2111 -/3.04 512/512 128 ? SiS 1
Asus PCI/I-P54NP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/512 512 + Neptun A
Asus PCI/I-P54SP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ-588 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ-545 4-23 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? Python 2
Chaintech 586SLB 5--3 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? SiS
Elitegroup Si54P AIO 4--4 21-1 -/- 256/512 128 ? SiS
Gigabyte GA-586IP 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 512 ? Neptun
J-Bond PCI500C-C 4--4 ---- N/3.04 1024/1024 128 ? SiS 1
Intel Plato 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/256 128 + Neptun A
Intel PremierePCI/II ? ? ? ? ? + Neptun
Micronics M54Pi Testaro. 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/512 192 ? Neptun
MSI 586 MC2 MS5106 5--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Shuttle HOT-543 VP 4-24 ---- -/3.04 512/2MB 128 ? Premium 1,2
1: 128 Bit L2-Cache access
2: Opti Chipsets are known to have slow video.
A: John Garnett garnett@compbio.caltech.edu, garnett@gestalt.austin.tx.us
GRAPHIC ADAPTERS (PCI only)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D
Resolutions and frequencies may drop if less than the max. RAM is available=
.
Shortcuts:
V =3D VRAM, D =3D DRAM
C =3D compatible with NeXTSTEP
RAM Max. Chip RAM- =20
Manufact. Type TrueColor Max.Res. MB Hz DAC C Comm=
ent
ATI Graph.Ultra Pro ? ? ? ? ATI ? +
ATI Ult.Graph.ProXLR ? ? ? ? MACH32 ? +
ATI Gr.Ultr.ProTurbo ? ? ? ? MACH64 ? +
ATI Gr.ProTurbo ? 1280x/? 2-4 V 100 ? ? ?
ATI Winturbo ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
ATI Grap. Xpression ? 1280x/ 2 D 75 ? ? ?
Cirrus 5434 ? ? 1 D ? Cirrus ? ?
Compaq QVision 1024E ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Compaq QVision 1280E ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Compaq QVision 2000 ? ? ? ? ? ? -
Diamond Viper 1280x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 120 P9100 ? ?
Diamond Stealth 32 ? ? ? ? GD5434 ? +
Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 S3 864 ? +
Diamond Stealth 64 1164x/? 1280x/? 2-4 V 120 S3 964 ? +
Diamond Viper Pro Video 1280x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 120 P9100 ? ? 2
Elsa Winner1000 800x/75 1152x/83 1-2 ? ? ? ? + 1,5
Elsa Winner1000Pro 800x/? 1280x/75 1-2 ? ? S3 864 135 + 1,5
Elsa Winner2000 1280x/75 1600x/52 2-4 V 100 ? ? + 1,5
Elsa Winner2000Pro 1152x/82 1600x/77 4 V ? S3 964 220 + 1,4,=
5
Genoa VideoBlitz 9200 ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Hercules Stingray 640x/? 1280x/? 1 D 75 AL2302 ? ?
Hercules Stingray 64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 90 AL2364 ? ?
Hercules Pow.Dynamite64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 W32P ? ?
Hercules Graphite 800x/? 1280x/? 2 V 150 S3 968 ? -
Hercules Terminator64 1280x/? 1280x/? 4 V 150 S3 968 220 ?
Hercules Pow.Graphie 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 V 150 AGX016 ? ?
Matrox MGA Impression+ 1280x/100 1600x/76 4 V 120 MGA 3 220 -
Matrox MGA Ultima ? ? 4 ? ? ? ? -
Matrox MGA II ? ? ? ? MGA 2 ? -
Miro 20SD ? ? 1-2 D ? ? ? + 3
Miro 20SV ? ? 2 V ? ? ? + 3
Miro 40SV ? ? 4 V ? ? ? + 3
Number 9 #9GXE Level10 ? ? ? D ? ? ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE Level11 ? ? ? D ? ? ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE Level12 ? ? ? D ? ? ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE Level14 ? ? ? D ? ? ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE Level16 ? ? ? V ? ? ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2DV 200 S3 928 ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE 64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 S3 864 ? -
Number 9 #9GXE 64 Pro 1152x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 150 S3 964 ? + 5
Number 9 #9GXE 1280 1024x/? 1280x/? 4 V 200 S3 928 ? ?=20
Number 9 #9GXE 1600 1024x/? 1600x/? 4 V 200 S3 928 ? + 5
Number 9 Imagine 128 ? ? ? ? ? ? + 5
Orchid Kelvin 64 ? ? 2 ? ? ? ?
Spea V7-Vega Plus 640x/? 1024x/75 1 V 75 AL2301 ? ?
Spea V7-Mirage P64 800x/75 1280x/75 1-2 D 100 S3 864 ? ?
Spea V7-Mercury P64 800x/90 1280x/75 2 V 100 S3 964 ? ?
Spea V7-Storm Pro 1280x/80 1600x/? 4 V 100 P 9100 ? ?
STB Pegasus ? ? ? ? ? ? +
STB Lightspeed ? ? ? ? ET4k32 ? +
TsengLabs ET4000 ? ? ? ? ET4k ? +
Taxan WinBoost 640x/100 1280x/75 2 D 100 ATI 64 ? ?
Taxan WinTurbo 800x/100 1280x/75 2 V 100 ATI 64 ? ?
Taxan WinTurbo + 1280x/60 1280x/75 4 V 100 ATI 64 ? ?
1: for more info use NeXTanswer; known for excellent driver support.
2: also Weitek 9130
3: twin versions work but without twin feature!
4: the 220 MHZ RAMDAC is only available with the 2000 Pro H.
5: support of 12Bit modes, faster but equal to 16Bit modes.
MONITORS (Multiscan only)
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Sizes are 'visible' sizes if known. Sizes without a '<' are real sizes.=20
General sizes: 14" =3D 34, 15" =3D 36, 17" =3D 41, 19" =3D 46, 20" =3D 48, =
21" =3D 50
<36 <38 <43 <48 <51 <53
General pictures sizes in mm:
260x200 280x210 315x235 370x285 400x300 =
=20
theoretical needed pitche distances for displayable sizes:
800/.31 800/.31 1024/.31 1024/.31 1280/.31
1024/.28 1024/.28 1152/.28 1280/.30 1400/.28
1280/.26 1400/.26 1600/.26
Manufact. Type Size Res. Mask kHz Comments
Cornerst. Image Accel <51 1600x ? ? 2
Eizo Flex. F340i-W-PM 35 1024x 0.28 27-61 =20
Eizo Flex. F340i-W-T92 <38 ? ? ?
Eizo Flex. F552 41 1280x 0.28 27-65
Eizo Flex. F552i-W <44 ? ? ? =20
Eizo Flex. F560i-W 41 1280x 0.26 30-82
Eizo Flex. T560i-T92 41 1280x 0.26 30-82 3
Eizo Flex T660i-T92 49 1280x 0.31 30-82 3
Eizo Flex. F760i-W-MKII 51 1280x 0.28 30-78 =20
Eizo Flex. F780i-W-T92 51 1600x 0.26 45-100
Elsa CM 21E110T <51 1600x 0.26 60-107 1
Elsa GDM 20E40 <50 1024x 0.31 30-85 1,3
Elsa GDM 17E40 <43 1280x 0.26 28-82 1,3
Goldstar 1520 <38 1024x ? ?
Goldstar 1725 <43 1280x ? ?
Hitachi CM 1797 MEZ 41 1280x 0.26 30-82
Hitachi CM 2098 ME 48 1280x 0.28 30-90
Hitachi CM 2198 ME 51 1280x 0.28 30-90
Hitachi 15 MVX Plus 36 1024x 0.28 30-64
Hitachi 17 MVX Value 41 1280x 0.26 30-64
Hitachi 17 MVX Plus 41 1280x 0.26 ? -82
Hitachi 20 MVX Plus 48 1280x 0.31 30-69
Hyundai HL 7682 <43 1280x ? ?
Hyundai HL 5864 <38 1280 ? ?
IDEK MF 8617 <43 1280x 0.26 ? -82
IDEK MT 9121 <55 1600x 0.30 ?
IDEK MF 8221 <53 1600x 0.28 ?
IDEK MF 8621 <53 1600x 0.26 ?
Lion DN-1564 GLR <39 1280x ? 31-64
Lion CT-1968 <48 1280x ? ?
MAG DX 15F <39 1280x ? 30-64 =20
MAG DX 17F <44 1280x ? 30-64 =20
MAG MX 17FG <44 1280x ? 30-64 =20
MAG MX 17S <44 1280x ? 30-64 3
MAG MX 21F <55 1600x ? 30-82 =20
MAG MXE 15F <39 1280x ? 30-64 =20
MAG MXP 17F <44 1600x ? 30-82 =20
Miro C1782 <44 1280x ? 29-82 3,4
Miro C2085 <53 1408x ? 28-85 3,4
Miro C2185 <55 1600x ? 30-85 4
Nec Multisync 2V 33 1024x 0.28 31-57
Nec Multisync 3V 35 1024x 0.28 31-50
Nec Multisync 3FG <38 1024x 0.28 31-38
Nec Multisync 4FG <38 1024x 0.28 27-57=20
Nec Multisync 4E 35 1024x 0.28 31-65
Nec Multisync 5E 40 1024x 0.28 31-65
Nec Multisync 5FGp <43 1280x 0.28 27-79
Nec Multisync 5FG <43 1280x 0.28 27-79
Nec Multisync 6FG <53 1280x 0.28 27-79=20
Nec Multisync 6FGp <53 1280x 0.28 27-79
Nokia 449 E <38 1024x ? ?
Nokia 447 B-090 <43 1280x ? 31-64 3
Nokia 447-X-090 <43 1280x ? 30-82 3
Nokia 447-X-092 <43 1280x ? 30-82 3
Nokia 445 M <53 1280x ? ?
Nokia 445 X <53 1600x ? ?
Panasonic Panasync 5 <43 1024x 0.28 30-64
Panasonic Panasync/Pro 3 <38 1024x 0.28 30-64
Panasonic Panasync/Pro 5 <43 1280x 0.28 30-82
Panasonic Panasync/Pro 6A <53 1280x 0.28 30-82
Philips 14A (4CM 4279) <36 1024x 0.28 30-58
Philips 14B (4CM 5279) <36 800x 0.28 31-35 =20
Philips 14C (7CM 5279) <36 800x 0.28 31-35
Philips 15A (4CM 8274) <38 1024x 0.28 30-64
Philips 15B (4CM 8270) <38 1024x 0.28 30-58
Philips 17A (4CM 6282) <43 1280x 0.27 30-82
Philips 17B (4CM 6099) <43 1024x ? 30-64
Philips 17C (4CM 4770) <43 1024x 0.31 30-58
Philips 17T (4CM 6088) <43 1280x 0.26 30-64 3
Philips 20A (C2182 DAS) <53 ? ? ?
Philips 20C (4CM 2799) <53 1280x 0.31 30-64
Philips 20T (C2082 DAS) <53 1280x 0.31 30-82 3
Philips 21A (C2182 DAS) <55 1600x 0.28 30-82
Samsung Samtron 428VSL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 428TXL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 428UXL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 528UXL <38 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 728SXL <43 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 728DXL <43 1280x ? ?
Smile CA 1450 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1451 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1413 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1506 <38 1280x ? ?
Smile CA 1703 <43 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1718 <43 1280x ? ?
Smile CA 1706 <43 ? ? ?
Spea 2085 MS <53 1280x 0.31 29-85
Spea 2163 <53 ? ? ?
Spea 2185 MS <53 ? ? ?
Sony Multiscan 15sf <39 1280x 0.25 31-64 3
Sony Multiscan 17se <43 ? ? ? 3
Sony Multiscan 20se <51 ? ? ? 3
Sony CPD 1430 <34 1024x 0.25 28-58 3
Sony CPD 1730 <44 1024x 0.25 28-58 3
Sony CPD 15sf <38 ? ? ?=20
Sony GDM 2036S <48 1280x 0.31 30-71 3
Sony GDM 2083 <48 1280x 0.31 28-85 3
Sony DW GDM20E01T/2085 ? ? ? ?
Sony DW GDM17E01T/1782 ? ? ? ?
Sony GDM 20E01 TCO <53 1280x 0.30 30-85 3
Sony GDM 17E01 TCO <43 1280x 0.25 ? -82 3
Sony GDM 17se1T <44 1280x ? ? 3
Sony GDM 20se1VT <51 ? ? ?
Targa TM 3820 PNLD <38 1280x 0.28 30-60
Targa TM 4215 PNLD <42 1280x 0.28 30-64
Taxan Ergov. 580 LR <35 1280x 0.28 30-64
Taxan Ergov. 880 LR <43 1280x 0.28 30-64
Taxan Ergov. 885 LR <43 1280x 0.26 30-82
Taxan Ergov. 895 LR <43 1600x 0.25 30-85
Taxan Ergov. 1080 LR <51 1280x 0.28 30-82
Taxan Ergov. 2100 LR <53 1600x 0.30 30-90=20
1: Manufactured completely by Sony on special orders of Elsa.
2: special monitors for document image processing. Further data on req.
3: Trinitron mask known
4: Miro uses products manufactured by MAG.
Some monitors are not able to use the full display.=20
Monitors which are known to do this are from:=20
Eizo, Nec, IDEK, MAG, Miro. (other may do, too!)
SCSI-CARDS (PCI only)
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M: Master or Slave mode only (+: Master, -: Slave)
C: Compatible with NeXTSTEP (+: yes, -: not yet)
W: Wide SCSI compatibel (+: yes, -: no)
Manufact. Type M W C Comments
Adaptec AHA-2940 + - +
Adaptec AHA-2940W + + +
AMD PC-SCSI II + - +
Buslogic KT-946 C + - +
Future Domain TMC-3260SVP - - ?
NCR NCR 8100S + - +
NCR NCR 8150S + - + 1
NCR NCR 8250S + + + 1,2
NCR NCR 8251S + + + 1
Q-Logic Fast!SCSI IQ PCI + + ?
The NCR drivers will get available Q1/95
1: SDMS BIOS included, other NCR cards require SDMS BIOS on board.
2: special version for Wide-SCSI, but only 8-bit connector.
ETHERNET ADAPTERS (PCI only)
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=3D=3D=3D
C: compatible with NeXTSTEP (+: yes, -: not yet)
S: Setup diagnostics (+: yes, -: no)
W: Warrenty (+: lifetime, x: x years)
Con: Connectors available: B:BNC, T:TP, A:AUI
I: Interrupt used: A: Int A, P: PCI-PCI-Bridge
Manufact. Type Con I S C W Comments
Accton EtherDuo PCI BT A + - +
CeLAN EPCI CT A + - 3
Cogent EM 960 PCI BTA A + + + 2
Cogent PCI Quartet 4T P + - + 2
D-Link DE 530 CT BT A - - 5
Racal InterLan PCI T2 BT A + - +
Surecom NE-32 PCI BT A + - 1
Surecom EtherPerfect 8T A + - -
Znyx ZX 312 BTA A + - 3 1
Znyx ZX 314 4T P + - 3 1
1: aequvalent to the manufacturer: Cache (US)
2: higher transfer rates are possible if the same adapters are used=20
on the connected machines.
I have currently no information on ISA/EISA cards. But the ISA/EISA
Bus _is_ fast enough for Ethernet. There is _no_ bonus in speed for
using Ethernet cards on PCI slots.
CD-ROM (SCSI-only)
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All SCSI CD-ROM drives are NeXTSTEP compatible.
All SCSI CD-ROM drives support single speed mode for audio CDs.
M: Mounted (H: horizontal, B: horizontal or vertically)
D: C:Caddy or D:drawer
Vid: Video CD: F: Filesystem, C: Copy, P: Play (White Book)
O: Movie CD: P: Play (Green Book)
A: Auido CD's readable (raw format!)
I: digital output connector: (+: yes, -: no)
Manufact. Type Speed Cache M D A O I Vid Comments
Apple CD300e Plus 1/2 256 H D + - - F--
Chinon CDS-525S 1/2 64 H D - - - FCP
Chinon CDS-535 1/2 256 H C - + - FCP
Hitachi CDR 6550 1/2 128 H D - - - F--
Hitachi CDR 6750 1/2 256 B C + - - FCP
Matsushita CR 503 B 1/2 256 H D + + - FCP 2
NEC Multispin 4xi 1/2/4 256 B C + + + F-P
NEC Multispin 2xi 1/2 256 H D + - - F--
NEC Multispin 3xi 1/3 256 B C + - - F-- =20
Pioneer DRM 602X 1/2 256 H C - - - F-- 1
Pioneer DRM 604X 1/4 128 H C - + - FCP 1
Pioneer DR U104X 1/4 256 B C - + - FCP
Plextor 4Plex PX43 CH 1/4 1MB B C - + - FCP =20
Sony CDU 55S 1/2/2.4 256 H D + + - F-P
Teac CD 50 1/2 64 B C - + - FCP
Toshiba XM 3401B 1/2 256 B C + - - FCP
Toshiba XM 3501B 1/2/4 256 B C + - - FCP
Toshiba XM 4101B 1/2 64 B D + - - FCP
Toshiba XM 5201B 1/3.4 64 H D + - - FCP
=20
1: loadable with up to 6 CD's
2: aequivalent to Panasonic
SOUNDCARDS
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will get filled 2nd next issue.
THANKS
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The following people helped me (by posting or mailing)=20
collecting this material (sorry if I missed somebody):
- Axel Habermann
- Ethan Straffin
- Daniel L. Kramer
- Holger Hofst=E4tter
- Reimer A. Mellin
- Jens Ch. Gloede
- Stefan Preuss
- Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Most information was achieved by the german computer magazine: c't.
(computers and technics).
DISCLAIMER
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THRE IS NO WARRENTY ON THE SUPPLIED INFORMATION. THE ENTIRE RISK=20
AS THE QUALITY AND CORRECTNESS OF THE SUPPLIED INFORMATION IS WITH=20
YOU. IF THE USE OF THE SUPPLIED INFORMATION WOULD LEED TO DAMAGES,=20
YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
IN NO EVENT THE AUTHOR OR ANY REDISTRIBUTOR ARE LIABLE TO YOU FOR
DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAl, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL
DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THIS INFORMATION,
EVEN IF THE AUTHOR ARE ANY REDISTRIBUTOR HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITES OF SUCH DAMAGES.
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Bernhard Scholz IRC: Boerny: #amiga, #ne=
xt
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Amiga Developer (MAD)
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (if nothing works) Aminet admin, WWW admin
Opinions are my own! (God said: E=3Dmc^2 and --- there was li=
ght)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS/68: Disktab for IBM DSAS-3360 harddrive???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 23:12:15 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3esfsf$93@machthenext.dannug.dk>
Keywords: disktab, IBM disks, Motorola hardware
Hi,
I have an IBM DSAS 3360 harddrive, which currently is Macintosh formatted
(348MB available).
I would like to try to format to a NEXTSTEP disk, but seem unable to do so.
Has anyone tried this disk and come up with a good entry in the disktab, to
make this work???
Thanks for any info.
Best regards
Michael
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From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Music Kit?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 07:54:01 -0500
Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3eu019$kcq@news.duke.edu>
Howdy do!
I've got a NeCTcube 68040-25 running NS 3.2 and looking for the current
location of the Music Kit either for download or on CD-ROM. Thanks.
Peace
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From: mikmak@stack.urc.tue.nl (Jean-Paul Mikkers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTStep on HP XM2 or HP Vectra VL2 p5 ?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 12:54:09 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
Message-ID: <3eu01h$30n@tuegate.tue.nl>
Hi,
Could someone please tell me if he's running NeXTStep 3.1 on a HP XM2 or a
HP Vectra VL2 with pentium? I heard some rumors that it wouldn't run on a
XM2 and I would like to know if this is true, and if so, if it's possible to
fix it using a special hardware configuration or running software patches..
Thanks very much,
Jean-Paul Mikkers
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP Software for old version of OS
Date: 10 Jan 1995 15:01:55 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <3eu7h3$kfk@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
I am am still running NeXTStep 2.2. Is there any PPP software out
there that I can run that will see me through until I upgrade?
Many thanks for any help
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: PPP woes
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.163542.27901@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: a black NeXT
References: <3emval$cdh@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3enehu$4c5@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 16:35:42 GMT
Robert Stabl (stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de) wrote:
: In article <3emval$cdh@news.doit.wisc.edu> andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu
: (Andrew Barger) writes:
: > I had the same problem with PPP, same package. Eventually, I found that
: > if I removed all the 'special' characters -- that is, characters such as
: > ':' and '>' -- from the chat script it would dial just fine. Maybe this
: > will work, maybe not. (BTW, connecting works fine without including those
: > types of characters.)
: Yes, you have to be careful with some characters. Chat is executed in a
: shell script where some characters have a special meaning in the shell (e.g.
: '>', '<', '|'). PPP works like a charm for months on my machine.
Yes that is true a simple cure for this is using 'chat "a>" "b>"'
/usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 passive debug crtscts kdebug 17 \
defaultroute modem -pap -chap connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v "" "ATV1" \
"OK" "ATDT3434460" "CONNECT" "" "sername:" "myUsername" "assword:" \
"secretPasswd" "annex:" "ppp"' /dev/cufa 38400 lock
then you are able to use the special chars also.
Also it is very important to set the modem to verbose mode.
Another thing that worked for me is to connect with UNIX tip and
start pppd in another shellwindow (completely without chat):
Start tip, log into the ppp connection and start ppp (some lines of trash
characters show up).
Then immediately start ppp in another shellwindow and close the one with tip
after that.
Maybe you have to remove the lock flag for pppd for that.
(No guarantee).
Also I inserted the passive flag and removed lcp-echo-failure and
lcp-echo-interval flags (don't know if this made any difference).
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From: Geoff Hopson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VideoConferencing via ISDN?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 16:45:46 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3eudjq$44o@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Quick question. What is available to allow video conferencing via ISDN
that'll run on NEXTSTEP/Intel?
Special hardware cards? Software? Suppliers (in UK, preferably)?
There are various cards/software about for Windoze, has anyone written any
drivers for these cards for NEXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Geoff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla)
Subject: Compiling TaylorUUCP on NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.160520.5310@ccdd.com>
Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com
Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 16:05:20 GMT
Does anyone have any tips about the proper modifications to the standard
TaylorUUCP source distribution so that it can be compiled under NEXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance.
--
Chris Cuilla
Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: dje@seagoon.ee.sun.ac.za (Daniel Erasmus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can I print Mac files on NeXT?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 18:34:31 GMT
Organization: University of Stellenbosch
Message-ID: <3eujvn$hpg@itu1.sun.ac.za>
I'm trying to print Mac files (mostly Word and Excel) to a friend's
NeXT Station's laser runnin NeXTStep 2.1
Could someone please help me how, if this is possible.
Thanks
DDaniel Erasmus
erasmus@sjaan.fbk.eur.nl
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTSTation monitor
Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:58:57 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3euvv1$k15@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <D25Ky9.BL9@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Wayne Joerding - Economics writes
>
> 1. Do monochrome monitors on NeXTStations dim or fade over time?
Yes.
> 2. Is a replacemnet monitor available?
Yes.
NeXT actually replaced some of the original cube monitors (including
mine) for free. They would send you a refurbsihed one. Bell Atlantic
charges a few hundred dollars for the service.
There are also rumours on the net saying that it is possible to
manually 'up' the brightness of the monitor by fiddling around in the
back, at least of cube monitors. My replacement monitor (after a
couple years) is also fading, so Rohit & I may try it sometime, or just
spring the money for a refurbishment. I expect to keep this puppy
around for a few more years, so it should be worth it in eyestrain
relief. :-)
-- Ernie P.
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From: server@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Somethings eating my hard disk (a new space-eating bacteria?)
Date: 10 Jan 1995 19:49:55 GMT
Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins
Message-ID: <3euod3$q1@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
References: <3er71c$2eso@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
: Hi there -
: A quick post. I've had NS 3.3 loaded for about a week now. I started
: out with 100MB of free space and now have 60.9. In fact, in the last 3 hours
: it dropped from 64MB. I'm not doing anything. Are there some huge log
: files being built somewhere? What command can I use to find all of the
: hog files on the system? There appears to be some serious SAR activity
: setup in the default installation. Any suggestions as how to turn this
: off and reclaim the space? Thanks in advance.
: Rich
Hi -
Thanks for numerous replies on this. Evidently the swap space is the
culprit. The surprise to me is that I've had this system for four years
and never experienced this problem until NS3.3. Hopefully it will steady-state
and leave me some disk to work with (400MB barely big enough for NS3.3 and
developer??). I'm told that regular reboots should reclaim the space - will
try that tonight.
Rich
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Does or will NeXTstep support Multiple Ethernet Interfaces?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 22:07:54 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3ev0fq$6p8@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: PA-Risc,gateway server
Hullo!
We are considering an HP machines as a new network gateway/server
machine for our network. To do this without the additional expense
of a dedicated router, we need the machines operating system
to support more than one ethernet interface. Can NeXTstep on for PA-Risc
do this?
Chris Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Command line printing of HTML documents
Date: 10 Jan 1995 20:26:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3euqhf$qp1@news.iastate.edu>
For a project we are running it will be convenient to print out a fairly
large number of HTML documents. Rather than bring them up one by one in
OmniWeb or Nexus (or even SpiderWoman, once it works with 3.3 :) it would
be most convenient if we could print the formatted HTML file from the
command line, so taht then we could print large batches of them via shell
scripts and cron jobs.
Does anyone know of an HTML "filter" to accomplish this? Clearly this
functionality is built into OmniWeb and Nexus, but is there a standalone
suitable for the command line?
Thanks for any help.
Tom
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From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SLIP ??
Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:38:46 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3euup6$ad@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <1995Jan9.113217.15551@reks.uia.ac.be>
In article <1995Jan9.113217.15551@reks.uia.ac.be> pdepuydt@uia.ac.be
(Peter.Depuydt) writes:
> I'm currently running NS3.3 on HP VETCRA 486/XM
> , and I want to set up a SLIP connection over a serial
> modem connection.
For SLIP grab TranSys PNI 1.1x from any NeXT ftp site but it would be
better to see if you can use PPP which you can grab from
ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/NeXT/ppp. PPP works fine on 3.3, don't know about
the PNI.
> Is it possible to install it in such a way that connetions are made
> automaticly when needed ??
I think PNI can do that but I'm not sure because I'm not using it anymore,
for PPP you can try dp.2.0.tar.gz but you'll have to port it first.
> Let me know if there is a possibility to do such a thing on White
> Hardware...
Both work on white hardware too.
Filip
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From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 10 Jan 1995 22:20:18 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Jan10222018@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <1995Jan10.041643.22401@news.media.mit.edu>
To: mike@media.mit.edu (Michael Hawley)
In-reply-to: mike@media.mit.edu's message of Tue, 10 Jan 1995 04:16:43 GMT
<mike@media.mit.edu> writes:
>Has anyone got driver code handy to read audio data
>directly off audio CD's?
>thanks for any leads
>Michael Hawley
Depends on what CD you are talking about.
Carl Edman wrote Play3410 (sp?) which talks to a toshiba (in it's own
special way :-) )
Christian Limpach might be able to help you with CD300.
BTW: What newsreader inserted the newsgroups for Distribution?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: NeXTanswers Diff....please.. was: Distributed Objects and Foundation Classes
Message-ID: <D27tIq.HE@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <3ecfrc$3ul@giuliani.gun.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 00:32:50 GMT
In article <3ecfrc$3ul@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes:
>...
> But thanks for taking the time to post... Maybe someone should do a
diff
> on the NextAnswers index each week and post it to comp.sys.next.announce
> so we each don't have to do it.
>
> --
> ivo@hasc.ca
>
>
Hi!
This really is a good idea. Maybe someone who always has the NeXTanswers
at hand could do that... NeXT guys ? Scott ? Any cs.orst.admin ?
This perhaps could go into c.s.n.announce. NeXTanswers are interesing to
none-programmers to.
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Germany
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: imdat@irex.de (Imdat Solak)
Subject: Password for IREX-Agent Demo-Release
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.221134.1018@irex.de>
Keywords: irex,agent,demo,username,password
Sender: imdat@irex.de
Organization: IREX Software AG, Hochreit 7, D-83329 Waging, Germany
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:11:33 MET
Hello,
I did a really big mistake which I try to fix by posting:
When I put IREX-Agent on the ftp-server ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de I
forgot to mention the public username and password for the demo release
of IREX Agent.
I had a lot of people asking me for it. Now here is it:
Username: agent
Password: agent
If you want to check IREX Agent just log in as "agent" into it and setup
new Users (if necessery).
Sorry for the inconvenience ;-)
Again, if you have any problems with the app just send me an e-mail
(imdat@irex.de) personally or to irex@irex.de
Imdat
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From: dfaust@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXT STEP?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 04:21:01 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3evmbd$1g3@xmission.xmission.com>
OK - call me a fool - but:
How can I find out about Next Step. I have only heard about it from people who know nothing about it, and who cannot inform me as to why it is a good system for development...
I would like to know what Next Step is, what it is like, and why so many people say it is nice for development.
Is there a Faq?
Thanks
Davion Faustus
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compiling TaylorUUCP on NEXTSTEP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Jan 1995 10:46:12 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3f0ctk$re6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <1995Jan10.160520.5310@ccdd.com>
Chris Cuilla (ccuilla@ccdd.com) wrote:
: Does anyone have any tips about the proper modifications to the standard
: TaylorUUCP source distribution so that it can be compiled under NEXTSTEP?
For 1.05 just say 'configure; make', maybe you should look into policy.h
to get the paths and logfiles the way you prefer.
--
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work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on HP XM2 or HP Vectra VL2 p5 ?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:03:26 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3evoqu$kk9@samsara.circus.com>
References: <3eu01h$30n@tuegate.tue.nl>
In article <3eu01h$30n@tuegate.tue.nl>,
Jean-Paul Mikkers <mikmak@stack.urc.tue.nl> wrote:
>Hi,
>Could someone please tell me if he's running NeXTStep 3.1 on a HP XM2 or a
>HP Vectra VL2 with pentium? I heard some rumors that it wouldn't run on a
>XM2 and I would like to know if this is true, and if so, if it's possible to
>fix it using a special hardware configuration or running software patches..
I can't tell you I'm running 3.1 on one of these systems, but I can tell you
that 3.1 doesn't run on all that much these days; you pretty much have to have
an adaptec 1542B or an IDE disk to get installed, and the list of network and
video adaptors supported under 3.1 is pretty small.
You can almost definitely run 3.3 on these systems, although you may need
a different video or network adaptor; I don't know whether the existing
drivers will work with these systems or not. I would imagine that drivers for
these systems are probably on the way if they're not yet out.
>Thanks very much,
>Jean-Paul Mikkers
-Adam Beeman
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From: teren@lyria.stanford.edu (Terry Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: BSDI binaries on NeXTstep?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 06:49:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3evv1h$b82@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
NeXTstep is supposed to be BSD 4.3 compatible right? Does this mean that
BSDI and FreeBDS binaries might work on it? I was hoping that the Netscape
Commerce Server (Secure HTTP server with credit card authentication) would run
under NeXTstep Intel. Any chance?
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: mail spool reset help
Date: 11 Jan 1995 08:00:19 GMT
Organization: SFSC
Message-ID: <3f036j$fmj@maple.enet.net>
I am having trouble with Nextmail under NS 3.3. My system
crashed due to a bad drive and I restored (painfully) the system files.
What is happening now is that the mail spool (/usr/spool/mail) is not
resetting once mail is received so it keeps growing and growing!
Is this a permissions problem? Tried setting the owner to uucp and root,
daemon group, but to no avail.
ANy suggestions very much appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Anybody have NS -> NS PPP working?
Message-ID: <D28MJ2.1nB@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:59:26 GMT
I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NS (Intel) machines...I get
connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line (see
debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I get
some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both sides
are unable to "see" the other over the link...
The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
PPP-2.2 fails....
Has anyone been able to do this, and could I get a copy of your scripts?
Thanks in advance!!
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
======================
CONFIG:
- Mux 1.5, 16550 UART's on both machines
- ZyXEL U1496E modems on both machines
- NXFax 1.04 on both machines
- Remote (calling) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / tor.hookup.net / 165.154.11.65 / 255.255.255.0
- Local (answering) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / aetnacan.com / 192.251.166.138 / 255.255.255.0
- /usr/adm/messages from both machines (identical):
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP configuring Interface with:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Name: ppp
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Type: PPP over generic TTY
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: MTU : 1500
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 0... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 1... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Packet Decompression will be done outside
interrupt handler
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP-2.2 (NeXT LKS) Installed
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: LKS Version $Id: if_ppp.c,v 1.24 1994/11/21
05:10:15 perkins Exp $
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Bug reports to Steve Perkins
(perkins@cps.msu.edu)
============================
- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
\
connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
/dev/cufb 19200 lock
=============================
- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
login script for user "ppp"):
#!/bin/csh
echo Starting PPP
/usr/bin/mesg n
/bin/stty -tostop litout
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
\
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
==============================
RESULTS:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:40:48 damonc pppd[1864]: Connected...
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: Connection terminated.
===============================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:47:36 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:39 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:42 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:45 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:48 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:51 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:54 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:57 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: Connection terminated.
DEBUG INFO:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x0 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66 98
fe 66 98 fe 06
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18 e6
66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
==========================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:42:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:43:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:47:00 damonc last message repeated 2 times
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0: missing UI (0x3), got 0x1e
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1c 1f 1f 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa
c9 ff 3f 3e 0e
Dec 17 10:47:34 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e 2e 3e fe f8
Dec 17 10:47:37 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 29 ee f9 3e 0e 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e
1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 2e 3e fe f8 29 ee f8 f9 f9 f8
98 ef ff 1e 1c
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1e 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa c9 7b
9a
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 87 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:46 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 98 ef ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e fe fc e8 3e
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 2e db 3f 3e 0e 0e 0e ed ff ff 1f
1c 8b 8b 83 a3
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 8b 93 9f 65 fe cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 83 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 19 fe ff 1f 1c 1f 1f 0f a3
8b 93 9b 65 fa
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 98
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 99 ef ff 1f 1c 8b 8b 83 a3
8b 97 9f 65 fe
===================
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: logitech soundman OK for NSI?
Date: 11 Jan 95 20:20:18
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jan11202018@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
Logitech SoundMan is 100% soundblaster compatible. Does that mean we
can use the SoundBlaster Beta driver for this audio card also? Anybody
have good or bad experience in SoundMan, either for DOS or NeXTSTEP?
Ateptec SCSI controller and PAS audio card will fight for the bus.
Does BusLogic 445C SCSI controller do the same thing?
What is the best-behaving sound card for NSI?
Regards,
ZZ
From: bbs.america@loa.com (BBS AMERICA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Run a BBS? Want full Internet for $24.95/mo?
Message-ID: <8A1646B.0611000073.uuout@loa.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 18:51:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Log On America, Inc.
Hello there! Right about now you're probably wondering just what it is
you've gone and downloaded. Well, first off, I'll be honest with you...
if you're not a SysOp, it's more than likely just something to upload
to various BBSes for the credit. But, if you're a SysOp then you have
heard all the rage about the Internet that's come up recently. I'll bet
you even considered looking into getting full access Internet for your
own system! Well, more than likely you eventually realized that full
access Internet was way too expensive for your BBS to support.... Until
now.
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nation for the amazingly low price of $24.95 per month. That's right,
this is no joke... All you need is a BBS and at least 2 modems... It's
simple, you merely set up the transport door (included as CST54.ZIP) to
run from your BBS software. Once you contact us, we will give you the
LOCAL phone number that you will need and set up your account.
Here's how it works. Your users call your BBS as normal, when they run
the Cyberspace Transporter door, it will have your user wait while it dials
Log On America. Your user will then get full access to Telnet, FTP, Finger,
Whois, World Wide Web. Using the Telnet client, your users can access IRC,
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surfing the Internet simple with Gopher and the World Wide Web! You can
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From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.2 drivers not good on 3.3. Help
Date: 11 Jan 1995 15:08:14 GMT
Organization: GENIFI
Message-ID: <3f0s8u$ff0$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
1)I've got a Weitek P9100 PCI 2/2 MB VRAM from JCIS and it worked
well under NS 3.2 . I've just installed NS 3.3 and I could use it
only with the VGA driver.
2)When I want to use a CD in my drive it is not recognised
approximatively 99 times on 100.
Do you know how to solve these problems ?
My config is:
Processor: 486DX2/66 Intel motherboard: PCI 486 CQ1
Ram :16 MB Video : Weitek P9100 PCI 2/2 MB VRAM SCSI adapter:
NCR53C825 with internal 8- & 16- bit, and external 8- bit
interfaces. Hard drive : Micropolis 1924 CD-ROM drive:
Toshiba XM 4101 B.
Thanks in advance. Best regards.
Email: 100321.1674@compuserve.com
Hard drive : Micropolis 1924 D
CD-ROM drive: Toshiba XM 4101 B.
Thanks in advance. Best regards.
Email: 100321.1674@compuserve.com
Hard drive : Micropolis 1924 D
CD-ROM drive: Toshiba XM 4101 B.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
Yves.
Yves Pons Email: 100321.1674@compuserve.com
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTanswers Diff....please.. was: Distributed Objects and Foundation Classes
Date: 12 Jan 1995 07:23:41 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3f2ldt$1mt@rosie.next.com>
References: <3ecfrc$3ul@giuliani.gun.com> <D27tIq.HE@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.5d
In article <D27tIq.HE@shinto.nbg.sub.org>, Thomas Engel <tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org> wrote:
>In article <3ecfrc$3ul@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes:
>>...
>> But thanks for taking the time to post... Maybe someone should do a diff
>> on the NextAnswers index each week and post it to comp.sys.next.announce
>> so we each don't have to do it.
>
>This really is a good idea. Maybe someone who always has the NeXTanswers
>at hand could do that... NeXT guys ? Scott ? Any cs.orst.admin ?
Check out the NeXTanswers Index by Date. Shows the last changed date for
all nextanswers. Sends email containing "index by date" to
nextanswers@next.com
--Dan
--
Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 now in building 1
From: bbs.america@loa.com (BBS AMERICA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 18:51:00 -0400
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 12 Jan 1995 13:43:31 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> <D25y4r.K1I@califhistsoc.org>
Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com writes:
: > Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using this
: > combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and I
: wonder
: I have two ZyXEL and NXFax combos. At work, I can receive just fine, but
: sending always garbles the fax. At home, I can send faxes joyfully but I
: have never been able to get it to handshake and receive. Initial attempts
: to solve both problems attained no successful result and I have my hands
: full with an overburdened work agenda, so have been unable to isolate the
: problems.
: Anyone out there with similar problems and solutions?---thanks for
: bringing it up, Bill.
YESSSS!
I'm currently working with nxfax on this very problem. My success
rate on incoming faxes is more like 10%. Most of my faxes come from
overseas and this is very costly for the sender. Same problem - it
answers then times out. Since I loaded NS3.3 there is a new twist. The
times when I do receive a fax successfully, the nxfax software settings
get garbled and my distinctive ring gets turned off. Thus, the modem
answers every voice call instead of the answering machine, until the
software is reset. Yes, it is annoying.
Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: BSDI binaries on NeXTstep?
Message-ID: <D2AqwA.Lvn@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3evv1h$b82@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 14:28:58 GMT
Terry Lee (teren@lyria.stanford.edu) wrote:
: NeXTstep is supposed to be BSD 4.3 compatible right? Does this mean that
: BSDI and FreeBDS binaries might work on it? I was hoping that the Netscape
: Commerce Server (Secure HTTP server with credit card authentication) would run
: under NeXTstep Intel. Any chance?
None.
Would you expect Soalaris binaries to run under OSF/1?
I don't think so.....
OS spec compatable and binary compatable are two totally differnet issues.
(but maybe it's time to bug Netscape for a real port?)
later
j
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Setting up PNI 1.13 SLIP
Date: 12 Jan 1995 14:58:04 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3f3g1s$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi there -
I'm still trying to get a SLIP connection working. Finally upgraded
to NS3.3 so got the latest version of PNI and naturally most of the tips
I've collected now no longer apply. Anyone successfully get 1.13 to work
with NS3.3? I have black hardware and a zyxel 1496E.
In the PNI/config directory are the following files with the listed
customizations:
dial-zyxel.tcl:
No customizations. Works fine.
login-cisco.tcl:
There is some descriptive text spewed out followed by Username:
where it waits for input. After that input it spews out Password:
and waits for input. Then you get the prompt segue> From my newbie
understanding of tcl, that looks exactly like what this script already
handles. However, when I run "pnirun pni0" it times out waiting for a
*sername: prompt. Don't know why. This file appears to handle dynamic
IP addresses which is correct for my situation, but you have to get
logged in first before that comes into play.
I'm assuming cisco is the right kind of login mainly because
you get a *> prompt. Not sure how to tell whether I'm dialing in to an
annex, cisco, or what-have-you.
password.pni0:
Has two lines, "set username xxxxx" and "set password xxxxx".
pni0.config
Set MTU to 1500 as that is what is spewed out after a login to
the remote and typing "slip".
Left the default ADDRESS in as a dummy (since using dynamic IP)
Put in REMOTEADDRESS of segue
Not sure what to set NETWORKMASK to - trying 255.255.255.0
Any tips on finding this out - other than network admin?
DEVICE is /dev/cufa
SERVERTYPE is cisco
SERVERNAME is seque
Put in phone number NUMBER
password:
The default file stuck in if you are using public domain (not CSLIP).
I try to make the slip connection by typing "pnirun -debug pni0"
Utilities such as UserManager, and NetInfoManager don't work now that I've
set it up for local domain. I get the msg "Can't contact NetInfo server
for local domain". In HostManager under local domain I have settings as
follows:
"Use local domain only"
Hostname is "myhost"
NIS Domain Name is "None"
Internet Address has some default in it - I'm not allowed to edit that
field
Broadcast Address is "Default"
Time Standard is "Ignore Network Time"
Netmask is "Default"
Router is "None"
I got these settings from help for a previous version for PNI.
Will keep pecking away at this. Any tips are appreciated.
Rich
domain".
From: davida@macbeth.umd.edu (David M. Arnold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem with 'talk' under NS3.2 (black HW)
Date: 12 Jan 1995 10:41:26 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3f3ij6$5f3@macbeth.umd.edu>
Hi there,
We're having a problem with 'talk' on a NeXTStation mono recently upgraded
to v3.2. Whenever you invoke a talk request, you get the basic talk screen,
but it immediately exits again, leaving this message at the top of the
screen:
[Couldn't bind to control socket : Can't assign requested address (49)]
Now, I had this exact same problem on a DECStation 3100 I also control, and
the culprit was a typo in the /etc/hosts file - I mistyped a period as a
comma. Once fixed it worked fine. I checked these files and found no such
error:
/etc/hosts
/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/hostconfig
I checked all of these files for non-printing control chars, but found none.
I also checked /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services, but found no obvious errors
there either.
Any ideas where I should look? I assume it's just a simple typo again, but
the trick is to find it.
We also wonder if it had anything to do with attempting to confingure/install
the mdqs package, since they both do port/socket-intensive stuff. Could the
installation have munged a file that both talk and mdqs use? I'll poke around
some more...
Thanks for any help,
David Arnold (301)405-7636 Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu
Consultant, CSC Bitnet: davida%umd5.umd.edu@cunyvm
University of Maryland NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu
College Park, MD 20742 http://syrinx.umd.edu/~davida/
From: droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: logitech soundman OK for NSI?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 16:57:19 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f3n1f$2si@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
References: <ZHAO.95Jan11202018@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
In article <ZHAO.95Jan11202018@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z.
Zhao) writes:
> Logitech SoundMan is 100% soundblaster compatible. Does that mean we
> can use the SoundBlaster Beta driver for this audio card also? Anybody
> have good or bad experience in SoundMan, either for DOS or NeXTSTEP?
The Logitech SoundMan 16 seems to be just a ProAudioSpectrum 16. I use it
with the ProAudioSpectrum 16 driver under NEXTSTEP without any problem.
_________________________________________________________________
Nicolas Droux Rue de la Source 21
Engineering School of Biel-Bienne CH-2501 Biel-Bienne
Computer Science Dpt Switzerland
droux@info.isbiel.ch (MIME/NeXTMail) Phone: +41 32 266 314
URL: http://www.info.isbiel.ch/droux/ FAX: +41 32 266 523
From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anybody with NS 3.3 on a ND?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 13:41:57 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f3bj5$a37@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <3ef2hm$rkj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
> OK, several things:
>
> 1) window dragging between displays on our dual-headed system is
noticably
> slower. In fact, all window dragging feels slower. Time for more ND RAM?
>
> 2) I thoroughly bombed the Cube trying to do some video grabs. NeXTtv,
> VideoApp, and a customized version of VideoApp all croaked he system.
> However, a recompile of VideoApp and Capture.app seemed to solve the
> problem. There may have been another cause that I'm not aware of,
because
> 3.2 Developer didn't change, but maybe some libraries did.
>
so... the question is... should I upgrade or not??
I have no real desire to make my system _slower_ ... and the mail doesn't
really affect me now... so???
ciao...
.. Lee
--
Lee Roffel NeXTMail: roffel@biw.cube.de
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTSTation monitor
Date: 12 Jan 1995 17:31:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f3p12$ppu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <D25Ky9.BL9@serval.net.wsu.edu>
In article <D25Ky9.BL9@serval.net.wsu.edu> joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne
Joerding - Economics) writes:
> 1. Do monochrome monitors on NeXTStations dim or fade over time?
>
Not necessarily. My original Cube monitor (May, 1990) hasn't faded
perceptibly at all. I run the brightness level at about 70% of full
brightness, so I still have some adjustment left should fading occur. And
I've never adjusted any internal brightness potentiometer, although I have
adjusted the internal focus pot a couple of times. My eyes are probably
deteriorating faster than my monitor, though :-)
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 12 Jan 1995 17:37:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f3pbv$ps3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes:
> Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
> : In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com
writes:
> : > Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using
this
> : > combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and
I
> : wonder
>
> : I have two ZyXEL and NXFax combos. At work, I can receive just fine,
but
> : sending always garbles the fax. At home, I can send faxes joyfully but
I
> : have never been able to get it to handshake and receive. Initial
attempts
> : to solve both problems attained no successful result and I have my
hands
> : full with an overburdened work agenda, so have been unable to isolate
the
> : problems.
>
> I'm currently working with nxfax on this very problem. My success
> rate on incoming faxes is more like 10%. Most of my faxes come from
> overseas and this is very costly for the sender. Same problem - it
> answers then times out. Since I loaded NS3.3 there is a new twist. The
> times when I do receive a fax successfully, the nxfax software settings
> get garbled and my distinctive ring gets turned off. Thus, the modem
> answers every voice call instead of the answering machine, until the
> software is reset. Yes, it is annoying.
>
When you open the NXFaxMonitor Info panel, what ZyXel ROM version is
reported? Older ROM versions were flakier as far as fax transmissions are
concerned. I'm not sure what ROM version Black & White is recommending,
but I think anything earlier than 6.00 definitely needs upgrading. I'm
running 6.10a and don't have nearly as many fax problems as I did with
earlier ROM's, but I don't use the fax capabilities enough to judge
overall performance.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 12 Jan 1995 15:29:14 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3f46va$nv3@ivy.bga.com>
References: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> <D25y4r.K1I@califhistsoc.org> <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>
In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
richard warner <warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu> wrote:
>Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
>: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com writes:
>: > Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using this
>: > combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and I
>: wonder
>
>: I have two ZyXEL and NXFax combos. At work, I can receive just fine, but
>: sending always garbles the fax. At home, I can send faxes joyfully but I
>: have never been able to get it to handshake and receive. Initial attempts
>: to solve both problems attained no successful result and I have my hands
>: full with an overburdened work agenda, so have been unable to isolate the
>: problems.
>
>: Anyone out there with similar problems and solutions?---thanks for
>: bringing it up, Bill.
>YESSSS!
>
> I'm currently working with nxfax on this very problem. My success
>rate on incoming faxes is more like 10%. Most of my faxes come from
>overseas and this is very costly for the sender. Same problem - it
>answers then times out. Since I loaded NS3.3 there is a new twist. The
>times when I do receive a fax successfully, the nxfax software settings
>get garbled and my distinctive ring gets turned off. Thus, the modem
>answers every voice call instead of the answering machine, until the
>software is reset. Yes, it is annoying.
>
>Rich
As the result of my original post I have been contacted by Nick Doshi
at ZyXEL tech support. They are going to send me the 6.13 ROM to try.
He doesn't see why I should be having problems of this magnitude.
BTW, I have gotten a number of responses via email. So far 6 of 9
responders are having similar problems. Gee, and I thought everyone
was happy with ZyXEL and NXFax.
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: rmharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 13 Jan 1995 05:37:24 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3f53ik$gac@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> <D25y4r.K1I@califhistsoc.org> <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> <3f46va$nv3@ivy.bga.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Bill Tschumy (btschumy@bga.com) wrote:
: In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
: richard warner <warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu> wrote:
: >Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
: >: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com writes:
: responders are having similar problems. Gee, and I thought everyone
: was happy with ZyXEL and NXFax.
For what its worth, I am running V 6.12 modem and 1.04 software. I send
or receive several dozen faxes a month. I see no machines that I cannot
talk to, including overseas. I have no apparent reception problems,
except an occasional missed Type 2 distinctive ring (which seems to be
sloppy Telco standards, since some times my answering machine will count
one double ring as two, also), and an occasional scanline comment since I
upgraded to NS 3.2. Quality has been very good, too.
If B&W is lurking, I wish I could batch faxes and that I could easily find
and kill a posponed transmission. In fact if you fax later beacuse of a
busy line or by choice, you take your life in your hands. Further, I
wish I could save cover sheets for the record without having to go
through the preview app (which sticks page one at the end when you do).
All in all minor problems, but I can do all these things on my Dell portable!
--
*** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd
phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-5431
e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org, rharris@clark.net
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Setting up PNI 1.13 SLIP
Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:57:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3f3u29$1r90@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3f3g1s$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
Some progress has been made. I took out a bunch of entries
in a foreach loop and now the SLIP connection is made....don't know
why it didn't work before. Here's the current loop in my login-cisco.tcl
file:
foreach i {once} {
$DIALER xmit "\r"
#
# look for cisco command prompt
#
$DIALER expect "*sername:*" {cisco-password $DIALER $username $password
break}
}
Still not able to telnet to anywhere however. Here's some followup
questions for the net.
I'm setting up a SLIP connection using PNI 1.13 running on NS3.3.
I have a paper written by Glenn Rempe that is real helpful, but for earlier
versions. I have the actual connection being made successfully but
apparently need to do system administration on my machine. Several specific
questions:
For one, after the connection is made I see periodically packets
being sent back and forth - what are they? Line noise? Sometimes there
will be a long stream of them (couple dozen). I start it up using
pnirun -debug pni0 so I see every packet sent. I'm not able to telnet
anywhere, even using octet notation. It times out.
I don't know anything about HostManager, but I set up the name
of my machine with an IP address similar to what I'm dynamically allocated,
and I set up the name of the server machine with its IP address (as per
Glenn's instructions). Not sure what the difference between "save" and
"save to domain" is, but did a "save" for both of the new hosts.
A second issue, is don't I have to specify a router machine
somewhere? What if the terminal server isn't the router? The
REMOTEADDRESS variable in the config file appears to point to the
terminal server. It looks like it is set to send all packets to the
terminal server and I'm not sure it knows what to do with them. Will
go ahead and disable en0 in /etc/rc as specified.
A third issue is when I do a netstat -ar all I get is one line
which has the loopback info and IP address 127.0.0.1. Is this good or
bad?
Lastly, pnirun -down pni0 should bring the connection down, but
it doesn't. I have to manually kill processes. Do you know any way
around this? Thanks in advance for the help.
Rich
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT STEP?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:54:14 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <3f41d6$1ii@core.symnet.net>
References: <3evmbd$1g3@xmission.xmission.com>
dfaust@xmission.com writes
> How can I find out about Next Step?
Check out:
http://www.next.com/
--
Steve Dekorte
dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Any black computers still available anywhere?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 15:21:50 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <3f3hee$4oo@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
I recently got a card in the mail saying that NeXT printers that were
built, boxed then shunted off to a warehouse some place are
available. It got be wondering whether there were still any unused
black slabs one could still buy in a similar deal. Does anyone know?
Many thanks, CS
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 12 Jan 1995 21:27:19 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Jan12212719@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3f3pbv$ps3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
To: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 12 Jan 1995 17:37:03 GMT
<art@cubicsol.com> writes:
>In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
>warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes:
>>Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
>>: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com
>writes:
>>: > Like many of you I have NXFax and a ZyXEL modem. I have been using
>this
>>: > combination for several years. I have had a persistent problem and
>I
>>: wonder
>>
>>: I have two ZyXEL and NXFax combos. At work, I can receive just fine,
>but
>>: sending always garbles the fax. At home, I can send faxes joyfully but
>I
>>: have never been able to get it to handshake and receive. Initial
>attempts
>>: to solve both problems attained no successful result and I have my
>hands
>>: full with an overburdened work agenda, so have been unable to isolate
>the
>>: problems.
>>
>>I'm currently working with nxfax on this very problem. My success
>>rate on incoming faxes is more like 10%. Most of my faxes come from
>>overseas and this is very costly for the sender. Same problem - it
>>answers then times out. Since I loaded NS3.3 there is a new twist. The
>>times when I do receive a fax successfully, the nxfax software settings
>>get garbled and my distinctive ring gets turned off. Thus, the modem
>>answers every voice call instead of the answering machine, until the
>>software is reset. Yes, it is annoying.
>>
> When you open the NXFaxMonitor Info panel, what ZyXel ROM version is
>reported? Older ROM versions were flakier as far as fax transmissions are
>concerned. I'm not sure what ROM version Black & White is recommending,
>but I think anything earlier than 6.00 definitely needs upgrading. I'm
>running 6.10a and don't have nearly as many fax problems as I did with
>earlier ROM's, but I don't use the fax capabilities enough to judge
>overall performance.
>---
>Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
>NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
>NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
>USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Find yourself a friend with an eprom burner and get the ROM's of
zyxel's ftp site and burn them yourself.
I got 6.13 in the post today :-)
--
"Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games."
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: mfurey@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: exit
Date: 12 Jan 95 18:19:22 -0230
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Message-ID: <1995Jan12.181922.1@leif>
Hi
Is anyone familiar with what type of cable to use connecting a Next
Workstation to a sportster modem..we tried a Mac cable and it did not work.
Thanks
From: bjones@cais2.cais.com (Systemworks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 16:18:34 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund instead
of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine. Well,
that was what, almost a year ago and still no refund. Everytime I have
called the publisher they keep giving me the run-around about that they
are going to be processing refunds and 6 to 8 weeks and blah blah blah ...
Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet? I'm
really beginning to wonder if I will ever see a refund! Can the publisher
even afford the refunds (i.e. are they going bankrupt?). Please let me
know what you have found.
-BJ
--
---------------------------------------------
Bob Jones bjones@cais.com
Systemworks, Inc. 703-450-7429
NeXTMail Welcome!
---------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:14:04 -0800
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9501130014.AA21470@pud>
Subject: dwrites for Edit.app -- print margins
dwrite Edit NXMargins "0 0 0 0"
?
Nope, that didn't do it. So I'll ask: is there a way to get Edit.app to
use smaller margins than it does by default? The unnecessarily wide (1") top
and bottom margins that it uses for printing are a real pain, especially when
you're trying to squeeze a lot of rtf onto a page. Any ideas?
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Date: 13 Jan 1995 12:13:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3f5qp2$ob4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other>
bill@otherwise.com wrote:
: So my question is do I have a lemon modem, or does everyone get these
: problems. I would think that Fax technology was a bit more reliable.
: ---
: Bill Tschumy
: Otherwise
: bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail and MIME accepted)
Another follow-up. I have V6.12M ROM on my modem. Why is everyone so
sure it's a modem problem. I'm shocked that this late in the game there
would be any problem with ROM's or fax software.
In working with nxfax software support one thing they suggest is
that my defaults database may somehow be corrupted. When I do a
dread -o myhost_fax command, I get back "Can't open defaults database".
Does anyone know how to repair the root defaults database? Right now
I have to turn my modem off when not using it!!
Don't know how it would have been damaged, unless there are .*
files in the home directories I restored after the install. The
restored files would have been NS3.0. Haven't done anything with
system administration except load NS3.3.
The other thing though is that the inability to receive faxes was there
before I did the NS3.3 install. Now I have a prob with distinctive
ring turning off, which may be related to the defaults. It sounds
from the other posts that we're not to expect 100% success at
receiving incoming faxes. Can't believe it's such an art after fax/
modems being around so long. Is anyone sure whether it's a software
or modem problem?
Rich
From: Frank Seaton Taylor <prime@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 14:21:07 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f628j$cfk@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
In article <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com> bjones@cais2.cais.com
(Systemworks) writes:
> When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund
instead
> of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine.
Well,
> that was what, almost a year ago and still no refund. Everytime I
have
> called the publisher they keep giving me the run-around about that
they
> are going to be processing refunds and 6 to 8 weeks and blah blah blah
..
>
> Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet? I'm
> really beginning to wonder if I will ever see a refund! Can the
publisher
> even afford the refunds (i.e. are they going bankrupt?). Please let
me
> know what you have found.
I had given up and was about to post to try to get help from the net,
when a check came. I checked my bank statements just now and I deposited
the refund on November 7.
Come to think of it, I was less than speedy about returning the
preference card that stated I wanted a refund...
From: root@inselnext (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: logitech soundman OK for NSI?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 09:07:23 GMT
Message-ID: <3f5fsb$bu8@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
You may use the Mediavision driver.just put the card in, i dont
remember if you have to go thru the installation-program.I have a
logitech soundman,and it works ok
Regards
Michael Noack
Switzerland
E-mail: mn@insel.unibe.ch
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:03:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f6bpj$i5t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
In article <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com> bjones@cais2.cais.com (Systemworks)
writes:
> When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund instead
> of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine. Well,
> that was what, almost a year ago and still no refund. Everytime I have
> called the publisher they keep giving me the run-around about that they
> are going to be processing refunds and 6 to 8 weeks and blah blah blah
..
>
> Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet? I'm
> really beginning to wonder if I will ever see a refund! Can the
publisher
> even afford the refunds (i.e. are they going bankrupt?). Please let me
> know what you have found.
>
I finally received a refund within the past couple of months.
However, I'm not so confident about ever receiving a refund on my
_NeXT In Line_ subscription. I subscribed to receive timely *bimonthly*
NS information. The last issue I received was the Oct./Nov. issue. My
request for a refund has been ignored. Does anyone know what's going on
with _NeXT In Line_?
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Scorefile player out there?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:24:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3f6d01$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again!
Just had a quick question -- way back when in 1991 when I was running NS
2.1, there was a neat application which played scorefiles -- if I remember
right, it showed the score itself, and you were able to play (and I think
edit) scores with ease!
Now today, while searching the archives for this neat little app, I found
Autoscore, which performs the same basic function -- playing a score -- but
it will ONLY play after a particular idle time, the idea being that people
walking by in a store would be awed by this computer playing scores -- a
selling point. I would prefer to be able to play scores AT WILL, not waiting
for an idle time. :)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions and clues! Either posting to this
group or e-mailing me at night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (NeXTMail welcome!)
with possible solutions is fine.
Thanks,
John
--
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | Any philosophy that can be
4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris
______________________________|_____________________________
Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you
remember.
-- Oscar Levant
____________________________________________________________
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: B&W contact info
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:03:20 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3f6boo$3hk@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
I'm trying to reach B&W Software (maker of NXFax) but I can't seem to find
any contact info at all. If you have this info (e-mail preferrable),
please e-mail me directly.
Thanks,
Alex
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need advice for Kermit5a188 on a slab
Date: 14 Jan 1995 00:43:54 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3f76oa$hgm@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Keywords: kermit
I'm a new slab owner. I got Kermit5a188 and built it, but I'm not sure
I'm using the proper settings. I set line to /dev/cufa, for use with
a Supra 14.4LC modem with hardware handshaking enabled, connected to the
slab by a NeXT modem cable. When I try "set speed ?" Kermit's highest
option is 38400, not 57600. And downloading an ASCII file seems slow.
The only customization I've done is to change the entry for cufa in
/etc/remote to 19200 instead of 9600. Otherwise, everything is as it
comes in NS 3.2. Should I change the 19200 to something bigger?
Any tips?
Thanks,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook)
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Message-ID: <D2DFFI.Lzw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 01:14:05 GMT
bjones@cais.com (Bob Jones) writes
>When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund instead
>of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine.
(Stuff deleted)
>Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet?
(Stuff deleted)
I got a refund, seems to me like a month or two ago.
--
Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bandw!rick (Rick Damon)
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Message-ID: <1995Jan13.143858.18238@bandw.com>
Sender: rick@bandw.com
Organization: Black & White Software
References: <3f53ik$gac@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 14:38:58 GMT
In article <3f53ik$gac@clarknet.clark.net> rmharris@clark.net (Richard M.
Harris) writes:
> Bill Tschumy (btschumy@bga.com) wrote:
> : In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
> : richard warner <warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu> wrote:
> : >Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
> : >: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com
writes:
> : responders are having similar problems. Gee, and I thought everyone
> : was happy with ZyXEL and NXFax.
>
> For what its worth, I am running V 6.12 modem and 1.04 software. I send
> or receive several dozen faxes a month. I see no machines that I cannot
> talk to, including overseas. I have no apparent reception problems,
> except an occasional missed Type 2 distinctive ring (which seems to be
> sloppy Telco standards, since some times my answering machine will count
> one double ring as two, also), and an occasional scanline comment since
I
> upgraded to NS 3.2. Quality has been very good, too.
>
> If B&W is lurking, I wish I could batch faxes and that I could easily
find
> and kill a posponed transmission. In fact if you fax later beacuse of a
> busy line or by choice, you take your life in your hands. Further, I
> wish I could save cover sheets for the record without having to go
> through the preview app (which sticks page one at the end when you do).
> All in all minor problems, but I can do all these things on my Dell
portable!
>
> --
> *** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd
> phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-5431
> e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org,
rharris@clark.net
For the record, we are lurking! As a habit, I reply individually to every
posting I spot about NXFax. I do it this way because (IMHO) the problems
are generally unique and usually require several exchanges which wouldn't
be of general interest. Since Mike's wish-list is more general I'll make
the exception and answer publicly.
1) Batching faxes. Do you mean being able to send 1 fax to multiple
recepients? If so, this is possible by creating group addresses from the
Workspace. The documentation on group faxing is incomplete. The
best place to look is in the NeXT User's Guide which
isn't on-line.
The trick is creating the groups; NeXT isn't very
clear on how to do it. In fact, you can't do it from the Fax
Panel. You have to add new groups by using the Address Book
inspector. To do this select an address book in the File
Viewer and double-click it to open it as a directory. With
the Address Book icon selected you can then go to the File
menu and find options for "New Address" and "New Group".
2) Kill a postponed transmission. This can be done through the Print
Manager app. Choose the "Fax Modems" menu item, select your fax modem,
and click on the "Queue..." button. From the panel then presented you can
select any fax in the queue and delete it.
3) Save a cover sheet for later use. First of all I would like to point
out that this, like the previous two items, are all actually NEXTSTEP
features and not directly provided by NXFax. NXFax is primarily a
low-level driver, and we have chosen to not bypass NEXTSTEP as a matter of
practice. This has helped us with compatability through many system
upgrades. This is a long way of saying that "you can't do it," at least
not easily. You can, though, create custom cover sheets, and could make a
copy of a cover sheet with your comments included as text on the cover
sheet. You still run the danger of sending the wrong or inappropriate
comments by accident, which must be the rationale behind not preserving
comments between faxes.
We do encourage anyone with problems to contact us for help. From the
NXFax Monitor's online Help:
If you have questions about NXFax or are having a problem using it, please
contact us so we can help you. We want you to be happy with any product
you purchase from Black & White Software. We can provide you with the
best service if you are at your computer when you call.
For modem-specific questions, please contact us if you bought your modem
from us, otherwise contact your modem dealer.
When you contact us with a question, please have as much of the following
information available as possible:
Your owner ID
NXFax version from NXFaxInstaller Info Panel
NEXTSTEP version from Workspace Info Panel
Modem brand, model, and EPROM version
Computer brand and model
Technical support is available from 9 A.M. to 5 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time, Monday through Friday.
If you get voice mail when you call, all our incoming lines are
busy. Please try calling again or leave a message someone will call you
back as soon as possible.
If your question is not urgent in nature, you may want to contact
us via e-mail.
Black & White Software, Inc.
Bridge Street Marketplace
Waitsfield VT 05673-1210
USA
802-496-8500 voice
802-496-5112 fax
e-mail: nxfax@bandw.com
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Damon nxfax@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
-------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Damon nxfax@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: configuring HP 4MP printer on Intel
Date: 14 Jan 1995 04:33:41 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f7k75$pj3@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <3ealn8$r6u@News1.mcs.com>
In article <3ealn8$r6u@News1.mcs.com>, tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
|> [munch] I bought the printer not really knowing what types of
|> cables I needed. I get home and I try to use the centronics-to-parallel
|> cable I bought. Hooks up OK, but PrintManager only lets you attatch to a
|> serial port or SCSI port (w/ NeXT color printers only) so I'm kinda screwed
|> right now.
Not true. Print Manager only gives you those options if you havn't installed the Parallel Port Driver.
1. Log in as root.
2. Launch Configure.app
3. Click on the "Other Devices" icon (a Question Mark over a PC)
4. Install the Paralell Port Driver.
5. Be happy!
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTtime under NeXTstep 3.3 seems faster
Date: 14 Jan 1995 05:15:01 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f7mkl$pj3@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <3e9jid$kom@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <1995Jan4.020323.19953@Radical.Com>
In article <1995Jan4.020323.19953@Radical.Com>, Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell) writes:
|> Note that not everyone has seen a performance boost with the fatter
|> libInterceptor_s.A.shlib... On one of our Intel P90 machines, the sound cuts
|> out 3 or 4 times, and the video is slow (unsynced) with either version!
I've noticed a "performance increase" on my greyscale system
(an intel box that generally runs an evil quasi-OS :(
My impression (i wish i had some nice way to test this...)
is that the kernel in NeXTSTEP 3.3 is context-switching
much more smoothly than the 3.2 kernel.
Any thoughts on this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Where is the Learning Tool in 3.3
Message-ID: <D2Cqn6.11t@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <3ee7e4$p30@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 16:18:42 GMT
In article <3ee7e4$p30@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes:
>
> From the list of new feature in NS 3.3
>
>...
> **********************
> Could anybody tell me where are those tools and document?
>
> Mark
>
I guess you did a 3.3 Upgrade...
The docs mention that (at least some of) the things are only included
in a normal NS3.3 User...
But I still have to see such a beast...
hope it helps
Hans
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 05:43:04 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f7o98$r71@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <D1v4JG.3ry@news2.new-york.net> <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu>
|> >I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that
|> my black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
Terminal is:
/NextApps/Terminal.app/icon.tiff
On the issue of the political insensativity of favoring white boxes (in the original post, lost to a cut-paste bug in X, which crashes either the
source app, or the target app, if they are different... both if they are the same ;-)
If you look at NeXTSTEP 3.3/motorola, I hope you'll see that
the original black icons are preserved.
NeXTSTEP 3.3/pa-risc will display little HP machines (god love 'em!)
NeXTSTEP 3.3/sparc will feature little Sun icons (no offense to the clone makers intended, I'm certain...)
NeXTSTEP 3.3/alpha (is there really such an animal? :) DEC alpha tiffs!
Therefore, all god's chilluns will be represented, one box, one root tiff.
Some distortion will take place as folk like us blast those damned ugly PC things off our disks and replace them with NeXT Cube tiffs.
If I can't be on a real machine, at least I can fatasize...
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Upgrade experience
Date: 14 Jan 1995 05:48:01 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f7oih$r71@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <3efig8$j49@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <3efig8$j49@news.doit.wisc.edu>, tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) writes:
|> I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 3.3 Intel.
|> The moire pattern in my screen (Nanao F550i) seems to have gotten much
|> better with the new ATi driver. The dark band down the left side of
|> the screen hasn't.
If this dark band stays there when you change to a different video mode (say from 8-bit to 16-bit color) and reboot, then it is possibly a monitor problem. It might need to be degaussed, it might need some other adjustment, or it might be more serious. This does not sound like a known driver problem...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: CD Player
Message-ID: <D2DsBr.D82@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 05:52:39 GMT
I will appreciate if someone can help me with this problem:
I am running NS on a Pentium machine: Plato, SONY CD ROM (SCSI),
1GB HD, Adaptec 1542. I just installed the Prodaudio Spectrum
16 card in a 16 bit slot.
Played the NeXTTime CD. Both the audi and video (as in the
movie with Steve Jobs and others) function as they should.
Can also get all the different kinds of sounds (crow, frog, etc)
for the system beep.
But, can't get the CD player to produce any sounds when playing
music CDs.
What am I doing wrong?
Could it be because the sound card is not connected to the CD ROM
drive with a 50 pin connector and an audio cable. But then, the
NeXTTime CD did work?
Once again thanks in advance, if you can provide any help in
getting the CD palyer to work.
rao
From: lynn <lynn@infonaut.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ATI Mach 64 PCI driver
Date: 14 Jan 1995 08:04:55 GMT
Organization: Infonaut Communication Services (801-377-9793)
Message-ID: <3f80j7$2r4@infonaut.com>
I've seen a couple of references to people using ATI Mach 64 video
cards in their NextStep configurations. As near as I can tell NeXT
doesn't currently have a driver for these cards, where are they
coming from?
Thanks,
+ Lynn:
From: hoff@aisch.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 14 Jan 1995 18:56:08 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3f96o8$230@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <1995Jan10.041643.22401@news.media.mit.edu> <ROBERT.95Jan10222018@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk) wrote:
><mike@media.mit.edu> writes:
>>Has anyone got driver code handy to read audio data
>>directly off audio CD's?
[..]
>Christian Limpach might be able to help you with CD300.
^^^^^
Does anybody know more about this tool for the CD300 ? I'd be _very_
glad for any pointers to this, or the email address of Christian;
I couldn't find it anywhere.
Currently, I have to use CDDA on DOS, which works great, but of course
a native version for white would be cooler..
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstätte // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Mac to NeXT printing problems
Message-ID: <D2DJ8o.9F@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 02:36:24 GMT
I have InterPrint on the Mac which is an lpr client and it
tries to send the file to print on the NeXT.
The problems is that I get an error that says
"LPR open fails (spooler may be disabled)" on the
Mac side.
I can see the Mac using ping, etc.......
and the Mac can see the NeXT using NCA Telnet.
What's the problem on the NeXT side?
It seems to be on the NeXT side.
lpd does seem to be running on the NeXT.
Mind you, I have a PC running PC-NFS running with
no problems at all printing.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L.
From: dspiega@orion.it.luc.edu (David M. Spiega)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: system requirements?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 08:37:31 GMT
Organization: Loyola University of Chicago
Message-ID: <3f82gb$f68@apollo.it.luc.edu>
I need to know the necessary sytem requirements...the bare minimum...to
run NeXTSTEP.
Thank you,
David
dspiega@orion.it.luc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 11:15:51 GMT
I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NEXTSTEP (Intel) machines...
Note that connecting from PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP to an Internet provider with
terminal servers and Morningstar PPP __WORKS *GREAT*__.
It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
below?
I get connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line
(see debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I
get some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both
sides are unable to "see" the other over the link...
The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
PPP-2.2 fails....
Have you been able to do this, and would you mind forwarding your
"ppp.remote" script?
Thanks in advance!!
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
======================
CONFIG:
============================
- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
login script for user "ppp"):
#!/bin/csh
echo Starting PPP
/usr/bin/mesg n
/bin/stty -tostop litout
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
\
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
=============================
- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
\
connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
/dev/cufb 19200 lock
=============================
- Mux 1.5, 16550 UART's on both machines
- ZyXEL U1496E modems on both machines
- NXFax 1.04 on both machines
- Remote (calling) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / tor.hookup.net / 165.154.11.65 / 255.255.255.0
- Local (answering) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / aetnacan.com / 192.251.166.138 / 255.255.255.0
- /usr/adm/messages from both machines (identical):
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP configuring Interface with:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Name: ppp
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Type: PPP over generic TTY
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: MTU : 1500
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 0... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 1... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Packet Decompression will be done outside
interrupt handler
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP-2.2 (NeXT LKS) Installed
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: LKS Version $Id: if_ppp.c,v 1.24 1994/11/21
05:10:15 perkins Exp $
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Bug reports to Steve Perkins
(perkins@cps.msu.edu)
==============================
RESULTS:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:40:48 damonc pppd[1864]: Connected...
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: Connection terminated.
===============================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:47:36 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:39 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:42 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:45 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:48 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:51 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:54 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:57 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: Connection terminated.
=============================
DEBUG INFO:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x0 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66 98
fe 66 98 fe 06
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18 e6
66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
==========================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:42:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:43:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:47:00 damonc last message repeated 2 times
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0: missing UI (0x3), got 0x1e
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1c 1f 1f 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa
c9 ff 3f 3e 0e
Dec 17 10:47:34 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e 2e 3e fe f8
Dec 17 10:47:37 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 29 ee f9 3e 0e 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e
1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 2e 3e fe f8 29 ee f8 f9 f9 f8
98 ef ff 1e 1c
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1e 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa c9 7b
9a
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 87 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:46 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 98 ef ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e fe fc e8 3e
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 2e db 3f 3e 0e 0e 0e ed ff ff 1f
1c 8b 8b 83 a3
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 8b 93 9f 65 fe cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 83 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 19 fe ff 1f 1c 1f 1f 0f a3
8b 93 9b 65 fa
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 98
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 99 ef ff 1f 1c 8b 8b 83 a3
8b 97 9f 65 fe
===================
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Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Problems with ZyXEL modem
Message-ID: <1995Jan14.145830.5105@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3f53ik$gac@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 14:58:30 GMT
In article <3f53ik$gac@clarknet.clark.net> rmharris@clark.net (Richard M.
Harris) writes:
> Bill Tschumy (btschumy@bga.com) wrote:
> : In article <3f3bm3$r2v@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
> : richard warner <warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu> wrote:
> : >Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
> : >: In article <950109091718.1036AADPE.bill@other> bill@otherwise.com
> : writes:
> : responders are having similar problems. Gee, and I thought everyone
> : was happy with ZyXEL and NXFax.
>
> For what its worth, I am running V 6.12 modem and 1.04 software.
> I send or receive several dozen faxes a month. I see no machines
> that I cannot talk to, including overseas. I have no apparent
> reception problems, except an occasional missed Type 2 distinctive
> ring (which seems to be sloppy Telco standards, since some times
> my answering machine will count one double ring as two, also), and
> an occasional scanline comment since I upgraded to NS 3.2. Quality
> has been very good, too.
>
Early versions of 6.0 ROMs for ZyXEL U-1496E models are said to be rather
buggy about FAXing. Ask comp.decom.modems for specifics.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: CD Player
References: <D2DsBr.D82@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 22:28:50 GMT
Message-ID: <D2F2G2.JBM@news2.new-york.net>
In article <D2DsBr.D82@nntpa.cb.att.com> vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO) writes:
> I will appreciate if someone can help me with this problem:
>
> But, can't get the CD player to produce any sounds when playing
> music CDs.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Could it be because the sound card is not connected to the CD ROM
> drive with a 50 pin connector and an audio cable. But then, the
> NeXTTime CD did work?
The CD player has to have speakers of its own. There's a connection right on
the CD-ROM drive for it: check your documentation. Reason is, the D-A converter
is in the CD-ROM circuitry, thus it doesn't load your SCSI bus with audio data
and doesn't require D-A conversion software/CPU load.
Matt
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From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Putting black back into 3.3 (how to)
Date: 15 Jan 1995 02:13:20 +0100
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <3f9srg$l8k@alf.uib.no>
I'm sure that this is _very_ important information for most
readers, so I thought I'd post this quickly... ;-)
I have a cube (040) and really disliked the new App icons
and root icon, so I went into my 3.2 CD and copied the old
icons into their new homes :-) You can find the old (black)
icons in /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app and in the subdirectory
WM.app They have relatively self-explaining names (i.e. like
root.tiff, UnixApp.tiff, etc).
I also took the liberty to "upgrade" the Preferences.app icons
back to the black keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. By looking
in the (3.2 version) /NextApps/Preferences/*.preferences
directory you can find the appropriate tiffs - just copy them
over to replace the 3.3 versions.
Well, maybe someone can help me - I would like to replace my
"home" icon (and neighbor) with the older, more simple version
from the 2.x release, but I haven't any 2.x on CD. I should
have kept a copy while I thought of it, but I didn't. If anyone
is running 2.x and could send me a copy (NeXTmail, ftp, make it
WWW available, etc) please e-mail me. Oh, the files is in:
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/English.lproj
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <3f6d01$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Control: cancel <3f6d01$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:57:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3f9vev$src@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Q: Mac sounds <--> NeXT sounds
Message-ID: <1995Jan14.174350.911@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 17:43:50 GMT
What sound converters are there in either the public domain or via
commercial publishers that will convert from AND to the standard Macintosh
sound format (stored in 'snd ' resources usually) (system and/or HyperCard
formats)?
I know about mac2snd/FrontEnd, but it doesn't document what Mac format it
works with (there are many possibilities). Since its doc doens't mention mac
resources, it probably doesn't do the standard format.
I also know about sox/GISO (3.0), but have never heard of the 'hcom' format,
again since sox/GISO doesn't mention resources it probably doesn't mean 'snd
' either.
Both of these apps appear to me to be dealing with some of the many sound
formats that were floating around on the mac back in the 80's (other
examples include soundcap and soundwave files), which are of less use these
days.
Anyway. Thanks for any info about newer apps.
david john
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Message-ID: <1995Jan13.223006.789@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 22:30:06 GMT
i received a (US bank) check in July (I live in France).
Hugues.
a (US bank) check in July (I live in France).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cosgrove@magibox.net (Rob Cosgrove)
Subject: LOCAL MICRO MAN INVENTS RBS-Makes big $-FREE DEMO - nwspost4.txt [1/1]
Content-Type: Text/Plain
Organization: Precision Data
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 04:38:53 GMT
Message-ID: <D2FJKx.2CA@chaos.magibox.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Sender: news@chaos.magibox.net (Magibox)
Local Microcomputer Consultant Invents Remote Backup Service
Software and Makes It Big
Dear colleague,
If you are reading this message, you have all the resources
needed to be successful in our new emerging cyber-world. I'd
like to tell you a short story about how your capabilities can
improve your life.
My friend, Rob Cosgrove is a microcomputer consultant, here in
Memphis, TN. Seven years ago, by a random twist of fate, he invented
a software solution to solve a client's problem. This client's
employee's weren't backing up his computers regularly, or at all.
This was " an accident waiting to happen ". Rob developed a way to
back up his client's computers automatically, and send that critical
data off-site, by modem , where it is safe. This all happens in the
middle of the night, when most businesses are closed. It's called a
Remote Backup Service.
Now he's written a book and software so anyone with a PC, a
modem, and a phone line can perform off-site data backups for local
businesses. This service has generated thousands of dollars, per
phone line, per month for him. Now it can for you too. It can even
run unattended for days or weeks at a time.
There's more to explain. So we've set up a 24-hr automated
Info/Faxback Hotline. For best results, call from your Fax machine
or a phone connected to your fax/modem, and be ready to receive faxes.
The number is : 901-681-0445 extension #208 .
To receive a Free E-mail Report, send us your name, postal
address, phone # , and the message : "Free RBS Report" . Please
include all of this info so we can process your request.
If you'd like to test drive our demo software, include the
message : " RBS DEMO " in your reply, and I will personally E-Mail
you instructions for downloading it.
Reply to : cosgrove@magibox.net
To respond by voice,or for questions, contact Steve at: 901-774-9900.
Best regards,
Steve Conroy
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player
Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:05:39 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f9sd3$ikp@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D2DsBr.D82@nntpa.cb.att.com>
vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO) writes:
> I will appreciate if someone can help me with this problem:
>
> I am running NS on a Pentium machine: Plato, SONY CD ROM (SCSI),
> 1GB HD, Adaptec 1542. I just installed the Prodaudio Spectrum
> 16 card in a 16 bit slot.
> But, can't get the CD player to produce any sounds when playing
> music CDs.
For one, I assume you've connected the CD-ROM drive to the
pro-audio spectrum card.
For two, you have to adjust the settings in the ProAudio card
so that it plays the CD-input at the volume you want. The way
the default NeXT driver works, the volume in the CD-input is
set to zero (or mighty close to zero).
I'd suggest that you look for something called
PASPlus.0.99.I.b.tar.gz
PASPlus.0.99.I.b.README
and try installing that. It did a great job for me, but I don't
know if the rest of your system is setup similar to the way mine
is. The above files are available at various FTP sites, I'm sure.
One place to check is ftp.cs.orst.edu
in directory /pub/next/demos/drivers/binaries
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <790188043.0@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: 15 Jan 1995 16:40:43 GMT
References: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes:
> It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
> have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
>
> Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
> below?
I run 2.2 between 2 NeXT's - one port being steves, one being a port
of 2.2 that I'm working on independently. Steve's code or ours just
drops in interchangeably at either end, so preseumably my scripts will
work in your environment. I either call the remote machine using a direct
piece of wire as a connection, or else call a terminal server using a modem
and telnet in. In both systems the login script at the far end is the same:
#!/bin/sh
OPTIONS="-as a0000 escape ff bsdcomp 15 mru 552"
/usr/bin/mesg n
if /etc/ifconfig ppp0
then
/bin/echo pppok
else
/bin/echo pppbad
sleep 3
exit 1
fi
/bin/stty pass8 pass8out -tostop -tandem
exec /etc/ppp/pppd $OPTIONS `hostname`: netmask 255.255.254.0
The test on the ifconfig is to make sure that ppp is installed on the box
and running - my connect scripts look for 'pppok' and abort on 'pppbad'
after login.
The password file entry is :
pppcon:iWUyPVkH9hPpI:30:20:PPP account:/etc/ppp:/etc/ppp/pppgo
The script I use to connect to the machine (over the phone) is:
#!/bin/sh
RATE=19200
DEVICE=cufb
OPTIONS="modem -as a0000 escape ff bsdcomp 15 mru 552 $*"
CONFILE=`pwd`/phone-skerry
CONPROG="/usr/local/bin/chat -v -f $CONFILE"
rm -f /usr/spool/uucp/LCK/*
echo Using options $OPTIONS
echo Using connect $CONPROG
touch /aseg4/pete/nextbin/chat
/pppd $OPTIONS lock connect "$CONPROG" netmask 255.255.254.0 /dev/$DEVICE $RATE 2> /dev/console
The only difference for the direct connection is that I remove the 'modem'
option and call out on cua. This works with both Muc installed and the
standard NeXT serial drivers.
Hope this helps...
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: CD Player
Message-ID: <D2Gv8y.HxG@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 21:48:34 GMT
Hi,
Some of you responded to my query about the CD Player.
Thank you for taking the time to help me out.
Some of you suggested additional detail is needed to see
what can be done. Here is how the system is set up as far
as the scsi and sound card go. I should have included this
in the first posting.
Adaptec 1542 CF. Ribbon with 50 pin connector from 1542 to
harddrive (Conner) to CD ROM (SONY 55S). Sound Card (Proaudio
Spectrum 16) in a slot by itself, but not connected to the
1542 by any ribbon. A couple of speakers (no amplifier) are
connected in the back of the computer to the output jack on
the sound card.
What puzzles me is that I can hear the NeXTTime CD on those
speakers, but not any regular music CD.
The CD Player app runs and the audio output pins on the CD ROM are
putting out audio.
So the queation is what kind of connections do I have to make
if I want to hear the music CDs thru the existing speaker/sound
card setup.
Do I need to daisy chain the sound card with the hard disk and
CD ROM to the 1542CF?
Or, will just connecting the audio from the CD ROM to the sound
card be enough?
Or, something else?
Certainly don't want to add an amplifier and additional speakers.
rao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft)
Subject: NextStep on a Dell XPS 90 Pentium?
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.004414.7611@agog.com>
Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft)
Organization: Agog, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 00:44:14 GMT
Posted for a friend.
Hi,
Has anyone successfully used NextStep on a Dell XPS 90 Pentium?
I am having a nightmare trying to get mine to work, and suspect that it
will not.
I have had the system crash with an unexpected kernel trap d eip 17d782
(the 'd' is SOMETIMES a 'c', and the trailing hex number varies more
widely)
whenever it attempts to register hd0a or sd0a (depending on whether I have
an IDE or SCSI device on deck).
My system is set up thusly:
1 Gig IDE disk (2100, 16, 63 -- tho the Dell setup likes to think of it as
525, 64, 63)
16M RAM
vanilla, vanilla VGA card (Imagine 128 on the shelf to minimize confusion)
All attempts at installing on this machine failed with the same
"unexpected kernel trap d" message when the box attempted to
register sd0a for the CD-ROM (using Adaptec's 1542B, 1542CF, _AND_ 2940).
A friend had used the CF card to install NS on a Dell 486 without
difficulty.
Frustrated by this, I found an Intel '486 box (inside AND outside).
It performed beautifully, allowing me to build up a 600 MB NextStep
partition
on my IDE disk. It runs and boots nicely on the borrowed surrogate box.
But when I take the IDE out and cart it back to my Dell, same kernel trap
for the different controller and disk (this time registering hd0a since
the
IDE is my boot disk). Therefore, the problem seems not to lie with the
controller (IDE or SCSI), but with the fact that NextStep will not mount a
filesystem on the PC advertised on the back page of every Byte, PC
Magazine,
and Computer Shopper in the continental US.
--- gnarly details follow -- mature audiences only
Botting an IDE disk in my Dell that was installed to by the Intel 486 box,
I get the following mess. I suppose the thing has loaded the Adaptec 154x
driver (since it handled the install), but the Dell has only the IDE drive
and a VGA card in place during this failure. There is a serial mouse on
COM1,
as well as a PS2 mouse plugged in (install used same serial mouse and my
intent
was to configure back to my PS2 mouse).
DriverKit version 330
Registering hc0
IDE using block major 3, character major 15
IDE cylinders 2100, heads 16, spt 63 (disk geometry)
IDE drive 0 using multisector mode
Registering: hd0
Registering: hd0a
unexpected kernel trap d eip 17d782
frame 1f66cbc called by 0 args 0 0 0 0
invalid frame pointer 0
Failed instrcution exception (2, d, 0)
Please reply to tony@wildfire.com (I can't read news regularly).
tony
--
Greg Cockroft greg@wildfire.com
Wildfire Communications
617-674-1722
From: Gastown Webspace <gastown@xmission.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Q: Mac sounds <--> NeXT sounds
Date: 16 Jan 1995 09:38:27 GMT
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fdeqj$g1a@wolfe.wimsey.com>
References: <1995Jan14.174350.911@kira.net.netcom.com>
Keywords: SOUND NEXT
David John Burrowes writes
> I know about mac2snd/FrontEnd, but it doesn't document what
> Mac format it works with (there are many possibilities). Since
> its doc doens't mention mac resources, it probably doesn't do
> the standard format.
I've used mac2snd/FrontEnd to successfully move sounds from my System 7.1
(suitcase) file onto my NeXT. The trick is to pick 11KHz not 22kHz on the
conversion if you don't want the result to sound like the Chipmunks. Also
remember to explicitly get the DATA fork when you are copying the sound
from floppy (the NeXT Workspace doesn't do it right, you need something
like FloppyWorks -- otherwise the sound file will be rather empty).
About new apps, I don't know much other than Csnd 1.5 was just released.
--
Kevin Hiebert <gasmail@xmission.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert
MIME/NeXTmail accepted * PGP public key available upon request *
Visit Gastown Webspace http://www.xmission.com/~gastown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.035416.1447@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 03:54:16 GMT
Issue #3 arrived today (Denver). Over 50 pages. The ad from
WhiteLight Systems (I have no affiliation) is interesting reading.
That's as far as I've gotten, but it's obvious that a lot of work has
gone into this issue. There are numerous improvements.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.com.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT FAQ
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:13:33 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
No, this isn't a new NeXT FAQ!
BUT: I'm currently recompiling the old FAQs and inserting new stuff to
compile a new FAQ. I am pretty sure that I can't maintain such a big work
very long, so I need _YOU!_
The current status of the FAQ: ready to post, waiting for registration of
news.answer. Includes only old stuff but rewritten in texinfo so there
are .dvi .ps and .html files available.
I need YOU for helping me with:
- sending me submissions you want to be included in a FAQ. (I just
can't read all the articles in all newsgroups...)
- collection news and writing articles about NeXT hardware specific
topics (comp.sys.next.hardware newsgroup)
- collecting news and writing articles about NeXT/UNIX specific topics
(comp.sys.next.sysadmin newsgroup)
- collecting news and writing articles about NeXT software specific
topics (comp.sys.next.software newsgroup)
- re-reading my prepared articles (I'm German and do _lots_ of mistakes
when writing in English)
Hopefully at least two people are willing to help me, because I'm only a
student and just don't have the time to hang around with FAQ work, also
I'll do me best.
Greetings, Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: system requirements?
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:39:50 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116143343.26082C-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3f82gb$f68@apollo.it.luc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3f82gb$f68@apollo.it.luc.edu>
On 14 Jan 1995, David M. Spiega wrote:
> I need to know the necessary sytem requirements...the bare minimum...to
> run NeXTSTEP.
For Intel Processors:
- 8MB RAM
- SCSI Adapter (NCR not supported, yet)
- 486DX or Pentium (coprocessor required)
- SCSI CD-ROM
- supported graphics adapter or on board SVGA
- ~180MB HD (user), ~300MB HD (user + developer)
(this configuration will cost approximately 2500DM (1700US$) including
monitor)
Hope this helps,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Errata: NeXT FAQ
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 17:22:09 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116170435.8628K-100000@hphalle10d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
1) EXCUSE ME:
I misconfigured PINE wrong, therefore the FROM: line contains garbage.
To contact me, write to
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Anyway I fixed the bug and everything should work fine now.
2) People who want to help, should include a subject line like:
FAQ: helping on <(de.)comp.sys.next.*>
I would like to have people watching one newsgroup carefully for FAQ
related topics. Currently I'm watching _all_ newsgroups on the fly :-)
3) People who want to send submissions to the FAQ should include a
subject line like:
FAQ: submission
4) I'm planing an e-mail service. People who like to get the FAQ by e-mail
should e-mail me with the following subject line:
FAQ: subscribe
I'm not sure wether I can convince my system administrator so maybe
this service might get canned :(
5) The FAQ is going to be posted _monthly_. A biweekly change log is under
construction. The first FAQ will be posted as fast as news.answers has
registrated the NeXT FAQ. Therefore the first time a FAQ will be posted
regularly might become the 01.03.1995. I'll hope to post a pre-release
in February.
Sorry for the trouble and
thanks to the people who helped/are going to help me,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jlc@trax.cb.att.com (John L. Chmielewski)
Subject: Re: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <D2I88p.B9s@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida
References: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:26:49 GMT
In article <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>,
Damon F. Cooper <damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net> wrote:
>I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NEXTSTEP (Intel) machines...
>
>Note that connecting from PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP to an Internet provider with
>terminal servers and Morningstar PPP __WORKS *GREAT*__.
>
>It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
>have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
>
>Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
>below?
>
>I get connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line
>(see debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I
>get some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both
>sides are unable to "see" the other over the link...
>
>The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
>an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
>PPP-2.2 fails....
>
>Have you been able to do this, and would you mind forwarding your
>"ppp.remote" script?
>
>Thanks in advance!!
>
>Damon F. Cooper
>damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
>
>
>======================
>
>CONFIG:
>
>============================
>- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
>login script for user "ppp"):
>
>#!/bin/csh
>echo Starting PPP
>/usr/bin/mesg n
>/bin/stty -tostop litout
>exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
>\
>lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
>
>=============================
>
>- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
>lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
>\
>connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
>DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
>"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
>/dev/cufb 19200 lock
>
>=============================
I run PPP 2.2 between two systems with NEXTSTEP/FIP, and experienced
the same problems that Damon describes. I was able to eliminate the
them by removing the two echo commands from the pppd script.
Remove the following from your script:
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5
and it should work. On my systems, with the echo commands in the scripts,
the ppp link would start 1 out of 3/4 times. Without the echo commands in
the script, ppp starts up every time.
John L. Chmielewski
jlc@attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bandw!rick (Rick Damon)
Subject: Re: B&W contact info
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.143528.4458@bandw.com>
Sender: rick@bandw.com
Organization: Black & White Software
References: <3f6boo$3hk@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 14:35:28 GMT
In article <3f6boo$3hk@hermes.dna.mci.com> alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex
Nghiem) writes:
> Hello there:
>
> I'm trying to reach B&W Software (maker of NXFax) but I
> can't seem to find any contact info at all. If you have this
> info (e-mail preferrable), please e-mail me directly.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
We will reply to Alex, but in case anyone else needs the information:
Black & White Software, Inc.
Bridge Street Marketplace
Waitsfield VT 05673-1210
USA
802-496-8500 voice
802-496-5112 fax
e-mail: nxfax@bandw.com
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Damon nxfax@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Q: Mac sounds <--> NeXT sounds
Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:31:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <3feaht$f16@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <1995Jan14.174350.911@kira.net.netcom.com> <3fdeqj$g1a@wolfe.wimsey.com>
cp whateversound.#rsrc# /destination
You can do this for any mac resource file.
Also ResDump1.1 on the ftp archives will open
some interesting things for you.
Charlie Dvorak
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (i386 ) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP? (final post)
Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:21:01 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3fe9tt$5fp@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC,i386,m68k/HP
Last week I wrote:
: Hello all,
: I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
: hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0
(protected
: mode). Insignia says that the market is a dead-end for black and too
: young for HP. So I want to see if there are enough of us out here that
may
: give Insignia a reason to make the port. They are working on protected
: mode for the other Unix OS's and Mac and it should not be to hard to get
: it moved from white NS to black NS (and HP). Please email me your name
: organization and upper bound for price that you will consider for the
: product and the number of licenses you need. I will forward this info
to
: the marketing manager here in the US. If you are behind some kind of
: firewall please find some way to get the info to me. I think it is best
: not to flood the News with this so send the info to me. I will respect
: everybody's privacy. I will send the list to Insignia in two weeks.
: Alan
I am refreshing the thread. I stand corrected on the terminology,
protected mode is i286 class, I meant i386 class emulation. Anyway, at
the end of this week I will forward the list to Insiginia. At present, I
estimate about 100 copies of m68k are desired and 5 HP versions (not much
of an incentive for Insignia so far!). PS tell a friend or a reseller
that might get request for these apps.
Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.195942.235@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <3f96o8$230@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 19:59:42 GMT
In article <3f96o8$230@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@aisch.darmstadt.gmd.de
(Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
> Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk) wrote:
> ><mike@media.mit.edu> writes:
> >>Has anyone got driver code handy to read audio data
> >>directly off audio CD's?
> [..]
> >Christian Limpach might be able to help you with CD300.
> ^^^^^
> Does anybody know more about this tool for the CD300 ? I'd be _very_
> glad for any pointers to this, or the email address of Christian;
> I couldn't find it anywhere.
>
> Currently, I have to use CDDA on DOS, which works great, but of course
> a native version for white would be cooler..
The CDDA question has been answered previously :
________________ cut here ______________________
In article <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI
Winfried Ritsch)
writes:
> Is there a program, which read AudioCD into the NeXT as sndfiles ?
>
> All I found was a message for Jan94:
>
> In article <1994Jan20.200613.437@elin-ekt.co.at> Karl Prager (spock!charlie)
wrote:
> :>In article <9401141905.AA13378@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de
(Gerd
> :>Knops) writes:
> :>> Since many people asked for that, I finally decided to write an App,
> :>> that enables you to read sound data from an AudioCD and store it in
> :>> the NeXT .snd format ... ... ...
> :>(cut)
>
> Has this Software been released somewhere. ?
>
Actually it has. It is available as part of a tools package. It is available at
arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/gtools
You are going to need the files GTools.NI.b.tar.gz and
GKPlayer.GTool.NI.b.tar.gz.
Gerti
_________________ end of article __________________
Just note that this solution doesn't works with every CD-ROM.
I think only 6 or 7 are OK (CD-300 is one of these. Thanks Apple, OUPPS, thanks
Sony :-).
Hugues.
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------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: 16 Jan 1995 22:08:31 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3feqov$f5g@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU> writes:
>
> No, this isn't a new NeXT FAQ!
>
> BUT: I'm currently recompiling the old FAQs and inserting new stuff to
> compile a new FAQ. I am pretty sure that I can't maintain such a big work
> very long, so I need _YOU!_
What you need is to be aware that you are duplicating the
efforts of others! I've been working to update the old
FAQs, as have some other folks that are assisting that
effort. You should have checked with me (my email address
is listed on every old FAQ file) before wasting your time.
If you'll post or email a valid email address, I'll be glad to
see if anything you've done can be merged with the Real
FAQs.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Date: 16 Jan 1995 22:53:11 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <D2F2G2.JBM@news2.new-york.net>
Both CDPlayer.app and play3401 will successfully play audio cds off an external
CD-ROM on black and white hardware, with a Sony single speed and Toshiba 3401B
player respectively. Although source for the command line utility play3401 is
available on the Internet, incredibly NeXT chose not to include source for
their CDPlayer.app with the developer disk. No one has stepped up to the task
of putting together an audio cd app with a NEXTSTEP interface either.
Wouldn't it be cool if NeXT released the source to CDPlayer so we could make it
work with a few different drives?
Tim
In article <D2F2G2.JBM@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew
Hocker) writes:
> In article <D2DsBr.D82@nntpa.cb.att.com> vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO) writes:
> > I will appreciate if someone can help me with this problem:
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> The CD player has to have speakers of its own. There's a connection right on
> the CD-ROM drive for it: check your documentation. Reason is, the D-A
> converter is in the CD-ROM circuitry, thus it doesn't load your SCSI bus
> with audio data and doesn't require D-A conversion software/CPU load.
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Re: Q: Mac sounds <--> NeXT sounds
Message-ID: <1995Jan17.031212.920@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
References: <3fdeqj$g1a@wolfe.wimsey.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 03:12:12 GMT
In article <3fdeqj$g1a@wolfe.wimsey.com> Gastown Webspace
<gastown@xmission.com> writes:
> David John Burrowes writes
>
> > I know about mac2snd/FrontEnd, but it doesn't document what
> > Mac format it works with (there are many possibilities). Since
> > its doc doens't mention mac resources, it probably doesn't do
> > the standard format.
>
> I've used mac2snd/FrontEnd to successfully move sounds from my System 7.1
> (suitcase) file onto my NeXT. The trick is to pick 11KHz not 22kHz on the
> conversion if you don't want the result to sound like the Chipmunks. Also
> remember to explicitly get the DATA fork when you are copying the sound
> from floppy (the NeXT Workspace doesn't do it right, you need something
> like FloppyWorks -- otherwise the sound file will be rather empty).
So, let me see if I've got the process right here:
1) Open up the System file
2) Select the sound of one's choice, and drag to the desktop
(or wherever)
This gives you a document icon (with a traditional dog-ear) and, if I
remember right, a speaker picture.
3) Transfer the data fork from this to the NeXT
(e.g. put it on an HD floppy and mount on the next)
4) Run through 'FontEnd' (generally pick 11kHz)
Thanks for the tip!
david john
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NSFIP install question
Date: 17 Jan 1995 06:49:48 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jan16.223923@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello everyone.
This is not a trouble while installing but questions before
installing NSFIP.
Currently I have 730 MB EIDE HD and want to install NSFIP on it.
I'm using OS/2's boot manager to install multiple operating
systems (DOS/Windows, OS/2). I reserved about 370MB of disk space
to install NEXTSTEP. Can I use the freespace to install NS,
__without__ repartitioning the disk drive ? If this is possible,
could someone let me know the procedures ?
Another question is: Can I use IDE CDROM drived connected to one
of the on board IDE controllers to install NS 3.3 ? I think
a SCSI CDROM Drive is necessary for NS 3.2 and want to know if
the situation has been changed.
Please send any info to park@isl.stanford.edu
Thanks in advance.
--- Sang Ju Park
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Date: 17 Jan 1995 07:09:43 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ffqfn$hbh@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
In article <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
writes:
>
> Wouldn't it be cool if NeXT released the source to CDPlayer so we could make
it work with a few different drives?
>
CDPlayer should be a NextDeveloper/Example, somewhere under the SCSI tools. How
to talk to SCSI devices.
Darcy and I have mentioned the NT version. You can type in play-lists and
track-lists, and it will remember them. So next time you put your (say)
"Depeche Mode" disk in, it remembers which disk it was and pops up all the
track names for you to select from. Cute.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Insight 21MB floptical (info/purchase)
Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:57:10 +0100
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <3fe8h6$5q6@alf.uib.no>
Hi.
I saw a post recently on c.s.n.m for a cube system, which included what
was described as an Insight 21MB floptical (a la the famous PLI Floptical
vapourware device). I replied to the poster, without getting an answer,
and hope someone here knows where I can get more information about this
product (email, fax, tlf, and/or address).
Any information or expereinces with this unit are also appreciated.
My system: 040 Cube with 16/1.0GB, NS3.3 (3.2 developer).
I sold my Optical a year or two ago hoping to buy a PLI Floptical -
it never made the market and I've been living dangerously without
and means of backup (well, I use a SLIP link for important things)
or file transfer/exchange. If this unit exists and is reasonably
priced I'd like to know where to get one.
As always, please e-mail replies, a summary will be posted if theres
interest.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ACK! My harddrive eaten....Spock, help me...
Date: 17 Jan 1995 10:23:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fg5r0$1jg9@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi again -
I posted a week or so ago about my HD being eaten. It does
appear to be a virtual memory thing, as reboots help. I wouldn't say
it is normal, however. The theory was that it was supposed to
steady-state after eating about 40MB. Well, right now I'm down to
25.1 MB on my 405MB drive, after rebooting just three days ago. It was
at 71MB just yesterday....I'm not making this up. I think it's safe
to say there is a VM leak.
Rich
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:55:52 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950117123604.27534A-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <3feqov$f5g@news.ycc.yale.edu>
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On 16 Jan 1995, Nathan F. Janette wrote:
> What you need is to be aware that you are duplicating the
> efforts of others! I've been working to update the old
> FAQs, as have some other folks that are assisting that
> effort. You should have checked with me (my email address
> is listed on every old FAQ file) before wasting your time.
>
> If you'll post or email a valid email address, I'll be glad to
> see if anything you've done can be merged with the Real
> FAQs.
I'm sorry to hear, this.
If tried two times to reach you via e-mail, I also tried to reach
the people at digifix.com to get more information about their www-server
and their link to your FAQ.
I didn't get any answers, yet.
Also I've heard from other people which had similar expiriences with
your e-mail (note: the e-mail _was_ delivered, I got no bounce!)
and got no answer. I've heard of two other who also started
working on a FAQ, because they got no answer. Also I have looked in
news.answer and noticed, that a NeXT FAQ is no longer registrated.
Maybe it was my fault not to post to the newsgroups when I _started_
working on the FAQ :)
I assumed you were tired on working/hearing about a NeXT FAQ and started
my work. Also I didn't see any posting of yours which is referencing
update work on the FAQ. Of course I'll send you all my articles I've
currently collected if you really go on with your FAQ.
I think it's not a bad thing to go on with already written FAQ's. I didn't
wanted to steal your efforts. I've rewritten and redesigned most of
the FAQ already to texinfo, which has the pro to be convertable to HTML and
other formats easy, and I'm currently adding new postings.
I'm really sorry that we two got into conflict. I'll stop my work now and
hope to see you continuing your work soon. (By the way: this gives me
back more time for my study ;) )
Best regards, greetings, apologies,
Boerny.
P.S. As I stated in 'Errata: NeXT FAQ'. I did something wrong with my pine
configuration. You should be able to reach me be e-mail, too.
____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Errata 2: NeXT FAQ
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:02:37 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950117125800.27534C-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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I've got a posting/reply by Nathan who was/is the original author of the
NeXT FAQ. I thought he stopped working, but he didn't! (see Re: NeXT FAQ)
Because of his posting I've stopped my work. I suggest all the people who
already replied to me to send their submissions to Nathan. I'll forward
all articles I got already to Nathan.
Sorry for the inconvinience,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ACK! My harddrive eaten....Spock, help me...
Date: 17 Jan 1995 10:46:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fg76o$1lpv@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3fg5r0$1jg9@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
: Hi again -
: I posted a week or so ago about my HD being eaten. It does
: appear to be a virtual memory thing, as reboots help. I wouldn't say
: it is normal, however. The theory was that it was supposed to
: steady-state after eating about 40MB. Well, right now I'm down to
: 25.1 MB on my 405MB drive, after rebooting just three days ago. It was
: at 71MB just yesterday....I'm not making this up. I think it's safe
: to say there is a VM leak.
: Rich
A quick followup. This is occurring on NS3.3 - I didn't have this prob
with 3.0. Since the time of my last post (about ten minutes ago) my
space has dropped to 21.5MB. I will finish up my work and save it to
disk then do a reboot. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe much of this
loss occurred while the machine was unattended - I think I would have
noticed the huge drop while using it yesterday. If this is the case,
then I could walk in here one day and find my machine locked up solid,
with no warning.
Rich
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ACK! My harddrive eaten....Spock, help me...
Date: 17 Jan 1995 11:27:04 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fg9i8$2an2@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3fg5r0$1jg9@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3fg76o$1lpv@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
: richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
: : Hi again -
: : I posted a week or so ago about my HD being eaten. It does
: A quick followup. This is occurring on NS3.3 - I didn't have this prob
: with 3.0. Since the time of my last post (about ten minutes ago) my
: space has dropped to 21.5MB. I will finish up my work and save it to
Another followup. Some cron process fired off at 4:00am and the
HD was really getting accessed, so I hurried up and saved my stuff to
disk. When the cron finished I was down to 18MB. After I rebooted,
I was very careful to only open one or two applications at a time. I
cat'd some nextmail to the screen (on remote where I get Internet access), saved it to a text file and then emailed it to myself on the local machine. The
text file was 53K. I lost 2MB of HD right away. This is serious.
Rich
From: kls@tezcat.com (Kevin Stacey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: exit
Date: 17 Jan 1995 03:45:10 -0600
Organization: vicious hackers
Message-ID: <3fg3j6$pu7@xochi.tezcat.com>
References: <1995Jan12.181922.1@leif>
In article <1995Jan12.181922.1@leif>, <mfurey@kean.ucs.mun.ca> wrote:
>Hi
>
>Is anyone familiar with what type of cable to use connecting a Next
>Workstation to a sportster modem..we tried a Mac cable and it did not work.
Any Mac cable that does hardware handshaking will work. Old Mac
serial cables didn't, but newer ones should, since the older ones
usually won't work with 9600+ bps modems. I had the same problem,
bought a new cable for $5 at a local store and had no further
difficulties.
I can't, however, get the modem to do more than 19200 bps. For
that matter, I can't get it to connect to a 14400 modem at all.
The NeXT manual only has suggestions for making 9600 or 19200 work;
nothing on 14400 or 28800. If someone has experience with getting
a USR Sportster or similar modem to connect at 28800 or 14400 using
tip or some other freeware modem software, I'd love to hear any,
er, tips they might have...
Kevin
--
Kevin Stacey | This space unintentionally left blank.
kls@tezcat.com |
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Hardware Compat. Guide
Date: 17 Jan 1995 08:42:40 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3ffvu0$3p6@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Has anyone found a *NEW* version of the Harware Compatibility Guide?
The last dated version on ftp.next.com has a date stamp of Nov 22/94.
There are some supplementary files about NS 3.3 in the same directory.
However, there isn't a newer Dec/Jan Guide.
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Music Kit?
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:36:50 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <950117113650.2446AACUJ.malc@white>
References: <3eu019$kcq@news.duke.edu>
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>I've got a NeCTcube 68040-25 running NS 3.2 and looking for the current
>location of the Music Kit either for download or on CD-ROM. Thanks.
>
Look on
ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT
MusicKit is now up to around version 4.1, and also runs on Intel.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: BSDI binaries on NeXTstep?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:27:38 GMT
Organization: Berlin University of Technology
Message-ID: <3fgghj$2ss@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3evv1h$b82@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <D2AqwA.Lvn@cunews.carleton.ca>
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In-reply-to: jbright@stimpy's message of 12 Jan 1995 15:28:58 MET
In article <D2AqwA.Lvn@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) writes:
Terry Lee (teren@lyria.stanford.edu) wrote:
: NeXTstep is supposed to be BSD 4.3 compatible right? Does this mean that
: BSDI and FreeBDS binaries might work on it? I was hoping that the Netscape
: Commerce Server (Secure HTTP server with credit card authentication) would run
: under NeXTstep Intel. Any chance?
None.
Would you expect Soalaris binaries to run under OSF/1?
I don't think so.....
OS spec compatable and binary compatable are two totally differnet issues.
(but maybe it's time to bug Netscape for a real port?)
There was a time when i had sun3 binaries running on my
NeXTstation. But they have to be statically linked and converted with
atom (a.out -> mach-o). So if he finds statically linked a.out
files for free-bsd they migth run on NSFIP.
Greetings
Bastian
--
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Fehrbellinerstr. 39 44 34 01 35 (priv) __o
D-10119 Berlin _`\<,_
Germany e-mail: buzz@cs.TU-Berlin.DE (_)/ (_)
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 17 Jan 1995 16:11:18 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3f96o8$230@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <1995Jan16.195942.235@precipice.fdn.fr>
Hugues RICHARD (neekibo@precipice.fdn.org) wrote:
[reading digital audio data on CD300; Gerti Knops' GKPlayer.GTool]
>Just note that this solution doesn't works with every CD-ROM.
>I think only 6 or 7 are OK (CD-300 is one of these. Thanks Apple, OUPPS, thanks
>Sony :-).
I love GTools.app, and I knew about GKPlayer.GTool; however, the README
states that it's only for Toshiba CDROMs. I verified this on my CD300,
which works fine as SCSI ID #2 together with NeXT's CDPlayer.app.
GKPlayer just gives me a 'No free generic SCSI device' error.
Is anybody using it successfully on a non-Toshiba drive?
(Gert: if you read this, could you please add more drives? :)
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstätte // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Message-ID: <790348661.22@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:17:41 GMT
References: <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
Distribution: world
treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) writes:
> Wouldn't it be cool if NeXT released the source to CDPlayer so we could make it
> work with a few different drives?
yes - I'm working on CD stuff at the monet. First uinsummountable problem,
how to stop workspace kicking out the disc when inserted! How does
cd player do it - anoyone know ?>
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jim@belved.belv.com (Jim Kimball)
Subject: Re: system requirements?
Message-ID: <D2JuKv.1yo@belved.belv.com>
Organization: DST/Belvedere Financial Systems
References: <3f82gb$f68@apollo.it.luc.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116143343.26082C-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:26:55 GMT
Bernhard Scholz (scholz@TU) wrote:
: On 14 Jan 1995, David M. Spiega wrote:
: > I need to know the necessary sytem requirements...the bare minimum...to
: > run NeXTSTEP.
: For Intel Processors:
: - 8MB RAM
: - SCSI Adapter (NCR not supported, yet)
: - 486DX or Pentium (coprocessor required)
: - SCSI CD-ROM
: - supported graphics adapter or on board SVGA
: - ~180MB HD (user), ~300MB HD (user + developer)
Where is the NS Intel supported hardware list?
- jim
--
Jim Kimball
Prog/Anal
DST Belvedere
From: halv@umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: how do I remove a module from Preferences?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 14:13:27 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Message-ID: <3fgja7$ls1@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
I tried out a couple of modules for Preferences.app and now I
want to remove them. But I can't figure out how to do it.
Cut doesn't work...
I know that the answer is probably RTFM, but I sure can't find it
anywhere.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.161338.645@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3f6bpj$i5t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 16:13:38 GMT
In article <3f6bpj$i5t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> [...]
> However, I'm not so confident about ever receiving a refund on my
> _NeXT In Line_ subscription. I subscribed to receive timely *bimonthly*
> NS information. The last issue I received was the Oct./Nov. issue. My
> request for a refund has been ignored. Does anyone know what's going on
> with _NeXT In Line_?
I received the new NIL issue, labelled "Winter 1994", last week. Here is
a quote, sans permission, from the reader mail page:
"NEXT IN LINE Goes Quarterly
"Like many companies in the NEXTSTEP market, NEXT IN LINE has had to make
certain sacrifices to remain financially viable. Rather than cutting into
the size or quality of the existing publication or raising our low
advertising rates, we have instead chosen to cut back on the frequency.
We believe that this strategy will allow us to continue serving the
community with high-quality articles on a variety of topics and providing
advertisers with cost-effective advertising.
"o Current subscribers will still receive six issues.
"o Issue #4, Spring 1995, will be out in early March, 1995.
"o We will refund the balance of your subscription if you are unhappy
with these changes."
It's sad that NIL hasn't been able to generate enough revenue at the
outset to maintain a bimonthly publishing schedule. (I assume a shortage
of content material was not the main problem.) Going quarterly will have
a negative impact on the timeliness of the content, which might cause a
lot of people to stop subscribing, or never start, thus beginning a
downward spiral that might be hard to break.
For my part, I've enjoyed the three issues so far, and I really appreciate
the work the NIL gang has put in to get this publication going. They're
not going to get rich off this venture, I'm sure, and some people are
bound to be POed about the delays that have occurred, but at least the NIL
group is *doing* something. They'll have my subscription as long as they
care to publish.
My attitude about the NEXTSTEP market these days is kind of a Zen-like
thing. I try to maintain no expectations one way or the other about any
particular component of the market. I pursue what I can to further my own
career in NEXTSTEP, while maintaining a primary focus on object technology
rather than any one platform. I help other NS folks out as I am able.
And I support people who are doing stuff in the NS market, where I can.
If it all blows up, I'm not going to cry, because it has been worth it up
to this point, even if there is no future. And if things continue to work
out, then I'm happy that way too.
--
Royce Howland, Object Systems Group
howlandr@cadvision.com
Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (PanCanadian Petroleum)
I speak, but not for OSG or PCP.
From: tal@plts.org (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.unixware,nj.general,nj.events,nyc.general
Subject: cmsg cancel <3fahtr$s90@plts.org>
Control: cancel <3fahtr$s90@plts.org>
Date: 15 Jan 1995 02:16:51 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., Bridgewater Twp, New Jersey, USA
Distribution: nj
Message-ID: <3fai53$sfn@plts.org>
<3fahtr$s90@plts.org> was cancelled from within trn.
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Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.org (home) -- tal@big.att.com (work)
I know of job openings in New Jersey for:
Extremely good Unix sysadmins with great people skills,
Lotus Notes support people, PPP/SLIP PC/MAC/Unix experts.
From: tal@plts.org (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.unixware,nj.general,nj.events,ny.general,nyc.general
Subject: $GROUPNAME January Meeting Reminder (NEW JERSEY)
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin
Date: 15 Jan 1995 02:19:34 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., Bridgewater Twp, New Jersey, USA
Distribution: nj
Message-ID: <3faia6$sgm@plts.org>
Two "don't miss" meetings!
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$ G R O U P N A M E C A L E N D A R
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JANUARY:
Thursday, January 19, time 7:00PM (social), 7:30pm (presentation)
Topic: Network Appliance's NFS server
Speaker: Dave Hurley, Network Appliance Senior Systems
Engineer, formerly with AUSPEX
Location: CAIP Auditorium, Rutgers, New Brunswick, NJ
Dave's technical presentation will cover the bottlenecks inherent in
NFS and methods for overcoming them. He will also review reliable file
systems and storage techniques in an NFS environment. This will
include information on FAServer and its ways of addressing user
requirements for faster and more reliable NFS servers.
The "FAServer" has a lot of interesting and innovative features. This
talk should be of interest to anyone that manages large NFS file
servers.
PLEASE RSVP TO "rsvp@plts.org"
For directions, execute this:
echo get groupname directions-rutgers-nb | mail majordomo@plts.org
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FEBRUARY:
Thursday, February 16, 7pm:
**ELECTIONS***
Speaker: Nathaniel Borenstein, <nsb@nsb.fv.com>,
Chief Scietist, First Virtual Holdings
Topic: Open Protocols for Information Commerce
Location: TBD
Traditional one-way payment mechanisms, such as cash, credit cards, and
digital cash, presuppose the necessity of payment validation in advance
of the completion of a transaction. In contrast, a "closed loop"
protocol that verifies both payment information and customer
satisfaction permits a far simpler payment engine in an open Internet
environment, and is well-suited to a broad sub-class of Internet
commerce applications. In this talk, I will present the underlying
philosophy, design rationale, and specification overview for a
recently-developed set of open protocols for information commerce.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: 17 Jan 1995 17:49:14 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fgvuq$8es@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950117123604.27534A-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950117123604.27534A-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> I'm really sorry that we two got into conflict. I'll stop my work now and
> hope to see you continuing your work soon. (By the way: this gives me
> back more time for my study ;) )
I'd like to thank Boerny for his fine work adding to
the FAQs. I'm merging his updates with my updates and
others, and expect to release the new FAQs very soon.
The success or failure of the FAQ effort depends much
upon everyone contributing to the effort, so once the
new FAQs are released, please send in your comments and
suggestions.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ACK! My harddrive eaten....Spock, help me...
Date: 17 Jan 1995 19:11:25 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3fh4ou$o8@rosie.next.com>
References: <3fg9i8$2an2@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3fg9i8$2an2@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes:
> richard warner (warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu) wrote:
<<His hard drive space is disappearing>>
> Rich
Rich, try this:
open up a Terminal window, and type in the following command:
ps -ux
That'll give you a list of tasks running on the system, as well as how
much virtual memory each is using - look at the column labelled "VSIZE".
You might be able to use that to get an idea which task is using up all
that space.
Another possibility - check the size of the file /usr/adm/messages. You
might have some error condition that's causing the system to spew gobs of
error messages in there.
Hope this helps,
-Mark
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Computer, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: mlw13@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.L. Woodley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Changing Icons of OLD apps...
Date: 17 Jan 1995 18:52:07 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <3fh3kn$kp3@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Not related to "Black icons in 3.3".
Is there a way to tell an old app (from 2.x, say) to "use" a custom drawn
icon in place of the icon it was compiled with?
Just a thought...
Michael Woodley
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Date: 17 Jan 1995 21:14:33 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Jan17211433@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> <3ffqfn$hbh@xexos.xexos.com>
To: mark@xexos.com
In-reply-to: mark@xexos.com's message of 17 Jan 1995 07:09:43 GMT
<mark@xexos.com> writes:
>In article <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
>writes:
>>
>>Wouldn't it be cool if NeXT released the source to CDPlayer so we could make
>it work with a few different drives?
>>
>CDPlayer should be a NextDeveloper/Example, somewhere under the SCSI tools. How
>to talk to SCSI devices.
>Darcy and I have mentioned the NT version. You can type in play-lists and
>track-lists, and it will remember them. So next time you put your (say)
>"Depeche Mode" disk in, it remembers which disk it was and pops up all the
>track names for you to select from. Cute.
>--
>Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
>Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
>London mark@xexos.com
Mark just about every decent CDPlayer does this so let's not praise NT
for that. To my knowledge mxcd and workman and some on the Amiga too
all provide that simple database functionality.
--
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app) -> mCD
Date: 17 Jan 1995 17:39:08 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fgvbs$lbe@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) writes:
> Both CDPlayer.app and play3401 will successfully play audio cds
> off an external CD-ROM on black and white hardware, with a Sony
> single speed and Toshiba 3401B player respectively. Although
> source for the command line utility play3401 is available on the
> Internet, incredibly NeXT chose not to include source for their
> CDPlayer.app with the developer disk. No one has stepped up to
> the task of putting together an audio cd app with a NEXTSTEP
> interface either.
Well, I'm sure I'm going to regret saying this, but the above
isn't quite true. It's just that no one has both admitted to
it and made the source code publically available.
If, however, one were to ftp to eclipse.its.rpi.edu, and look
in directory /NeXT/sources for files that start with the prefix
"mCD", one would find a plausible start at the source code for
just such an application. It isn't as far along as I'd like it
to be before announcing it, however I've had little chance to
really work on it for a few months now. The stuff that works
seems to work pretty well, but there are subroutines in it which
have not been tested much. Ie, "Proceed at your own risk". It
is important to pick up the README file that's at the FTP site,
as it includes a few useful tips that I haven't put into the
applications help-files yet.
It includes a lame database of album and song titles. By "lame"
I mean "it's compiled into the program". While that is pretty
lame alright, it does already have the information for a few
hundred CD's. I am separately working on a real database module,
but as I say, I haven't had much time to work on the program.
Anyone is welcome to the source code. It works fine enough for me
on both m68k and Intel platforms. It's vaguely possible it might
work on HP's. It is more probable that it will crash dramatically
on HP's. It works with NeXT CD-ROM drive's, Apple's CD-300, and
the Toshiba CD-ROM drive. It may work with others, it won't work
with an Apple CD-150. I haven't used the NeXT CDPlayer.app for a
few months now, but your mileage and success rate may vary. I have
sent this out to various net-people over the past few months, and
none of them have threatened to kill me. A few have even been very
happy to get it, as this does not have some of the limitations that
the CDPlayer.app does (in particular, the nonsense with what SCSI
ID's you have to have all your devices set at). Of course, it may
have other limitations. Such is life.
The program runs as root, doing various privileged things. It is
not guarranteed to be bug-free, and if you do run into a bug the
consequences could very well be nasty. However, if those who fancy
themselves as budding programmers want to use this as the start of
their own projects, that is fine with me. I do not assume any
liability for any code in the program. You're getting the code
for free, and as a result you damn well better do your own debugging
of it before shipping out any products that depend on that code.
Hmm. I guess that's enough disclaimers. I still imagine I'm
going to regret this, as I really did want to have it much more
polished off before making a more general announcement about it.
What's here is not what I meant to have for a final product, it's
really just a "testing" application that got out-of-hand. It looks
a bit slicker on the outside than it is on the inside.
I do want to keep the name "mCD" for whatever program I'm working
on though, so if you want to write your own player than please
name it something else.
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/sources/mCD.ReadMe
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/sources/mCD-94-1114.tar.gz
(note that the dated filename may change whenever the mood
strikes me to release a newer version, so it might be better
to really do an anonymous FTP and look to see what's there)
> Wouldn't it be cool if NeXT released the source to CDPlayer so
> we could make it work with a few different drives?
Other platforms have CD-players, with the source code released.
I haven't looked at them, but if someone else was interested then
that might be a good place to start. I do keep meaning to call up
Sony or Pioneer to get the technical info on the Apple CD-150, but
that's about as far afield as I've thought about going.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT In Line - Great! Was: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:51:19 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1995Jan16.161338.645@pcp.ca>
In article <1995Jan16.161338.645@pcp.ca> Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce
Howland) writes:
> I received the new NIL issue, labelled "Winter 1994", last week. Here
is
> a quote, sans permission, from the reader mail page:
>
> "NEXT IN LINE Goes Quarterly
Yes, this is a shame; I hope that NIL does well financially
now, though. This is an excellent periodical. While not the
eye-catching glossy to attract those who know nothing about
NeXT, it's a great resource for those of us already in the
community or those with some knowledge of NeXTstep but who
want more.
The latest issue, at slightly over 50 pages, has an excellent
review / overview of the four main CDROM-based NeXTstep
software collection, including laying out the strengths of
each, price, and contact info. Also, a news section, listing
product and special announcements and other info of special
note to the NeXTstep community. Also, a good article explaining
the World Wide Web, with info on URLs, available browsers,
some history, and web "search" sites, which allow you to
search for web links dealing with / related to certain
subjects. They also have reviews of MetroTools, Rendezvous,
TipTop, and an article listing and describing free and shareware
that are considered "must-haves," along with info on how to
get these packages. There's an article on the various ways
(free & commercial) to convert Mac and PC Type 1 fonts for
use with NeXTstep. An excellent article describing the
NeXTstep development improvements / additions / changes
due for NeXTstep 4.0. A technical article on exactly how
to create NeXTmail, in case you were writing a tool to do
that (or to decipher it). A small section reviewing some
books (Unix-Haters Handbook, Computer Ethics, and Expert C
Programming). And a tricks & tips section - how
to set the Workspace Manager to not autolaunch, forcing
apps to use specific bit depths (and why), debugging Postscript,
controlling coredumps, launching apps from the command line
for running as a different user, etc, and faking instance
variables in Obj-C categories. And a pretty good number of
ads, though none from Lighthouse, and I do so love the
Lighhouse ads.
Again - an excellent publication, highly recommended at
it's price!
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line - Great! Not?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 04:05:27 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fi427$nma@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
In article <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew
Abernathy) writes:
> Again - an excellent publication, highly recommended at
> it's price!
I'm sure it is, if you can get them to take your money and
give you a subscription. For an example of why I think they
might fail, consider that I have been practically
*begging* NIL to tell me how much I should put on the
purchase order for my bulk order of 15 copies * whatever
number per year. This has been going on for MONTHS, and
they still haven't given me the information required to
send them money. I've heard a similar story from a
member of my user group.
Get your act together, NIL!
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com (David Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: 18 Jan 1995 06:01:54 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fiasi$m0p@redstone.interpath.net>
Received this information in my INFORMATION WEEK magazine, delivered at my
office, today (Tuesday, 17 Jan), reprinted without permission.
Not responsible for inappropriate grammar, bad capitalization, etc. OK, I
take repsponsiblity for spelling errors.
HEADLINE: NextStep For Everyone?
SUB-HEAD: Canon workstation a boost to Next technology
Nextstep, the object-oriented operating from NeXT Computer, Inc. has found
only limited success in vertical markets such as trading, insurance, and
banking. That's in contrast to the fortunes of more mainstream offerings
such as Microsoft Corp.'s Windows NT and IBM's OS/2. Next officials say
the market for NextStep totaled about $45 million in 1994. But Canon
Computer Systems Inc.'s advanced technologies operation in Hillsboro,
Ore., is working to expand the NextStep market.
On Jan. 16, Canon will unveil and entry-level workstation optimized for
NextStep at a price the office-equipment manufacturer hopes will convince
more technology managers to use object-oriented technology products.
Canon's object.station 31 costs $3999 and is based on Intel Corp.'s
100-MHz DX4 processor. The workstation comes with 16MB of RAM and a
540-Mbyte hard disk. Dale Fuller, director of marketing for the ATO group,
says the company will use the machine to call on corporations in "crisis
mode" - those keeping an eye on the bottom line and considering
reengineering their enterprises.
Object-oriented technology, which allows for rapid applications
development and flexible network configuration, is suited to that purpose.
But mainstream acceptance of NextStep, Fuller acknowledges, will be a
while in coming. "The fastest way to change mainstream thinking is to show
how they are losing business to competitors that use object technology,"
he says.
Ted Shelton, president and CEO of ITSolutions, a Chicago software
developer and consultancy, has been using Canon's Object.Station 41, also
a NextStep-optimized machine, since last March. "We're using Canon as our
Intel platform," says Shelton. "Canon's is the only object-oriented
solution that we can take out of the box and get to work on right away."
Brian Gillooly
From: me@ljva.mit.edu (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line - Great! Not?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 07:39:45 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3figk1$4vs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3fi427$nma@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3fi427$nma@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com
(Andrew
> Abernathy) writes:
> I'm sure it is, if you can get them to take your money and
> give you a subscription.
>
> Get your act together, NIL!
>
> --
I, too, am having the same problem. A couple of times I have sent e-mail
to the NIL address that was posted in this group some months ago. Unfor-
tunately, I have been unable to get any sort of repsonse from the NIL
people. What gives?
-James
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 18 Jan 1995 07:49:47 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Jan18074947@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3f96o8$230@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <1995Jan16.195942.235@precipice.fdn.fr>
<3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
To: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de
In-reply-to: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de's message of 17 Jan 1995 16:11:18 GMT
<hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de> writes:
>Hugues RICHARD (neekibo@precipice.fdn.org) wrote:
>[reading digital audio data on CD300; Gerti Knops' GKPlayer.GTool]
>>Just note that this solution doesn't works with every CD-ROM.
>>I think only 6 or 7 are OK (CD-300 is one of these. Thanks Apple, OUPPS, thanks
>>Sony :-).
>I love GTools.app, and I knew about GKPlayer.GTool; however, the README
>states that it's only for Toshiba CDROMs. I verified this on my CD300,
>which works fine as SCSI ID #2 together with NeXT's CDPlayer.app.
>GKPlayer just gives me a 'No free generic SCSI device' error.
>Is anybody using it successfully on a non-Toshiba drive?
>(Gert: if you read this, could you please add more drives? :)
> Holger
>--
>Holger Hoffstätte // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
I don't know if this is relevant but the Toshiba drives don't use the
SCSI2 way of getting at the audio information. So unless there's code
for the CD300 it's likely not to work.
--
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Date: 18 Jan 1995 02:37:00 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fhusc$pef@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <ROBERT.95Jan17211433@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
In article <ROBERT.95Jan17211433@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
> Mark just about every decent CDPlayer does this so let's not praise NT
> for that. To my knowledge mxcd and workman and some on the Amiga too
> all provide that simple database functionality.
> --
Try using NT all day and you'd be clutching at those kind of straws too..
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line - Great! Was: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 09:36:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fined$aah@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Andrew Abernathy writes
) The latest issue, at slightly over 50 pages, has an excellent
) [...description of #3...]
Thanks for the praise! It makes it all worth while. :-)
Luckily, as far as the finances go, none of us expects to
get rich off the rag; in fact, none of us expects to get
anything out of it--we write because we like to and we
like NEXTSTEP. Guess that much shows, though... :-)
) And a pretty good number of
) ads, though none from Lighthouse, and I do so love the
) Lighhouse ads.
We wish we could get ads from NeXT, Lighthouse, HP, Sun,
Canon, and so on. But the big players ignore us completely
or don't take us seriously. Its too bad, but we'll keep
going on without them for as long as we can. Note that if
we had full page ads from each of the four above companies
in each issue, we could have kept up the bimonthly printing
schedule. Our ad rates are so low that each of those four
_could_ easily afford to place an ad if they wanted to do
so, and they wouldn't be hurt if they did so...
At any rate, we'll keep working hard. The tough part now
is to make an issue #4 that is as good--and as informative
--as #3 is. We're quite happy with #3. I think we can do
it, though! :-)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jim@belved.belv.com (Jim Kimball)
Subject: Education discount
Message-ID: <D2KJA4.1Hz@belved.belv.com>
Organization: DST/Belvedere Financial Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:20:28 GMT
How does one go about buying NS with an education discount?
- jim
--
Jim Kimball
Prog/Anal
DST Belvedere
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: NIL subscription
Message-ID: <D2L569.IpF@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 05:13:21 GMT
Appreciate it if someone will tell me who it is that I
need to contact for a subscription to NIL.
Thanks in advance.
rao
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Education discount
Date: 18 Jan 1995 13:02:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3fj3h9$55g@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <D2KJA4.1Hz@belved.belv.com>
Jim Kimball writes
> How does one go about buying NS with an education discount?
>
> - jim
> --
>
> Jim Kimball
> Prog/Anal
> DST Belvedere
Call Alembic Software at: 800-452-7608.
--
Jon Haveman
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: idscoord@sw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Error occurred while linking driver DPT2012
Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:03:01 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fjaj5$o2n@transfer.stratus.com>
Keywords: Nextstep3.2
NeXTStep3.2 on 486/66:
I believe there is a bug in the DPT driver (see below); it seemingly has
crashed my kernel and disk.
Apparently there is a fixed driver from ftp.next.com. In what directory?
Please tell me how to install.
Thanks in advance,
--Brian
brianw@isis.com
508-490-6540
..had a message like "kernel error: type c to continue or r to
reboot"
This is about the third time in a week this message has appeared.
I typed r, and now I cannot boot this PC in NeXTStep3.2 nor in DOS.
The errors (at boot time):
"Error occurred while linking driver Floppy:
rld(): Floppy symbol (objc_msgSend)'s n_sect field (0) is greater than the
number of sections in this object ()
Error loading driver Floppy
Reading config: /usr/DEvices/DPT2012.config/Instance0.table
Loading binary for DPT2012
Error occurred while linking driver DPT2012:
rld(): DPT2012 symbol (_objc_msgSend)'s n_sect field (0) is greater than
the
number of sections in this object ()
Error loading driver DPT2012
Errors encountered while starting up the computer.
Pausing 5 seconds...
Starting NEXTSTEP
[...infinite hang...]
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Eaten harddrive update
Date: 19 Jan 1995 01:26:05 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fkf3d$2t9m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3fkc4v$2tlr@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
Well, I've done everything I can think of to plug the memory
problem. Will do a reinstall of NS3.3 and see if that fixes it.
*sigh*
Rich
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Setting up X-windows, need mwm
Date: 19 Jan 1995 01:30:20 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fkfbc$2t9m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
I have a Big Green CD with X on it, several window managers but
not mwm. I need to be able to run some Motif applications on a remote
machine over a SLIP connection and am wondering if there is a public
domain window manager that will let me do it? Can anyone offer some
tips in setting this up? Am willing to pay $$ if no public domain
solution available. Thanks in advance for the info.
Rich
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: 18 Jan 1995 12:17:54 -0600
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca>
References: <3fiasi$m0p@redstone.interpath.net>
Does anyone know what the difference is between the object.station 31 and
the object.station 41?
==================================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
==================================
The opinions expressed are my own.
==================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Message-ID: <1995Jan19.004046.15977@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3fk5k9$9tt@redstone.interpath.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:40:46 GMT
Operator writes
> In article <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca> vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
> writes:
> > Does anyone know what the difference is between the object.station 31
> > and the object.station 41?
> >
> I think the 31 is the same as the 41 user configuration...
>
> Maybe not, but that is what it sound like.
From the announcement, the 41 has the on-board SCSI. The 31 has IDE.
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard
Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is
entirely coincidental.
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 03:43:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
pat
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: kris@xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 18 Jan 1995 18:17:10 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3fkeim$lr2@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <3fiasi$m0p@redstone.interpath.net> <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca>
Michael Shandony (vanhalen@bnr.ca) wrote:
: Does anyone know what the difference is between the object.station 31 and
: the object.station 41?
: ==================================
: Mike Shandony
: Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
: vanhalen@bnr.ca
: ==================================
: The opinions expressed are my own.
: ==================================
(1) Lower refresh rates
(2) IDE controller instead of SCSI
(3) $3999 vs. $4999
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
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Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 18 Jan 95 16:04:07
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.95Jan181647@syrtis>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
I have an HP712/60 loaded with NeXTSTEP 3.2 as the operating system.
I have installed TeX from the NeXTSTEP distribution CD-ROM, and everything
works fine, except: when I go to print, using either the print button in TeXView,
or 'dvips -r -Z0 -o "\!lpr -P lp" test' from the command line, I'm not able to
print. Instead I get an error message, '<tex.pro>. [1] sh: nd: not found'. If I
instead save my output to a postscript file, I can print it ('lpr test.ps') with no
difficulty. I have tried running dvips with the debug flag set, but didn't get any
more error messages relative to this problem. It appears that the error happens
at the point the output of dvips is being sent to the printer. What gives and how
can I fix it?
TIA,
Martha W. Schaefer
Yale University Department of Geology and Geophysics
P.O.Box 208109
New Haven, CT 06520-8109
203-432-3116(office)
203-432-3134(fax)
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: root@borg (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:44:25 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3fk5k9$9tt@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca>
In article <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca> vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
writes:
> Does anyone know what the difference is between the object.station 31
> and the object.station 41?
>
I think the 31 is the same as the 41 user configuration...
Maybe not, but that is what it sound like.
Dave Briggman
From: park@isl (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS (pre) installation questions
Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:38:45 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Message-ID: <3fk59l$2kg@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hello Everyone.
I have questions about installing NSFIP.
1) Can I install it on a DOS logical Drive ? To be
more specific, I have a hard disk that has primary
partitions and a extended partition. I use some of
the extended partition for DOS use and reserved some
free space inside the extendded partition for NS.
Can I use it for NS installation ? Or should I designate
the whole extended partition for NEXTSTEP ?
3) Does anybody know if I could use OS/2's bootmanager
to boot NEXTSTEP after installing NS ? If, yes,
would you let me know how I can do this ?
Thank you very much.
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Eaten harddrive update
Date: 19 Jan 1995 00:35:43 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fkc4v$2tlr@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
As per someones suggestion, I did a "vm_stat 5" at a command prompt.
I was surprised that about every twenty lines or so it prints out 99xxx
page faults and 25xxx pageouts. Quite a bit since each page is 8K. I
did this after a fresh reboot and login, so that only the apps started up
on the dock upon login were active. These are Mail, Terminal, Preferences,
and the Workspace. *Groan*
Rich
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: AFS and 3.3?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 19 Jan 1995 07:30:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3fl4ed$c5m@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hello,
my question is quite simple - is there someone who managed to run 3.3 and
AFS on a black NeXT? If so, please get in touch with me - I kinda need
that. Thanks.
Waiting for a miracle,
- Stan
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+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
| Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | "Forty-two!" yelled |
| SU Computer Science | Loonquawl. "Is that all |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 4396 | you've got to show for |
| stanj@cs.stanford.edu | seven and a half |
| NeXTmail / MIME anytime welcome! | million years' work?" |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: jbaugher@amadeus.glenqcy.glenayre.com (Jason Baugher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Date: 19 Jan 1995 08:27:10 GMT
Organization: Glenayre Electronics
Message-ID: <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
References: <1995Jan16.035416.1447@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Leif Smith (leif@pattern.rmnug.org) wrote:
> Issue #3 arrived today (Denver). Over 50 pages. The ad from
> WhiteLight Systems (I have no affiliation) is interesting reading.
> That's as far as I've gotten, but it's obvious that a lot of work has
> gone into this issue. There are numerous improvements.
> --
> Leif Smith, Denver
> leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Could someone post info on how to get in touch with NeXT In Line? I'd
like to subscribe.
--
--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
Jason Baugher - Glenayre One Quintron Way Quincy, IL 62301
jbaugher@glenqcy.glenayre.com
From: serge@seanet.com (Serguei Bakhteyarov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ATI Mach 64 PCI driver
Date: 19 Jan 1995 01:20:14 -0800
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <3flase$fre@kisa.seanet.com>
References: <3f80j7$2r4@infonaut.com>
lynn <lynn@infonaut.com> writes:
>I've seen a couple of references to people using ATI Mach 64 video
>cards in their NextStep configurations. As near as I can tell NeXT
>doesn't currently have a driver for these cards, where are they
>coming from?
>Thanks,
>+ Lynn:
It is available from us: info@osd.glas.apc.org
Serge :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Bug in UUCP over TCP/IP in 3.3?
Message-ID: <1995Jan19.035728.8083@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 03:57:28 GMT
Does anyone know if the transfer size bug in UUCP between black and white
hardware across TCP/IP has been fixed in 3.3?
In case you're unfamiliar, under 3.2, if you attempt UUCP over TCP/IP
between Intel & Motorola, the transfer size is screwed up due to byte
swapping.
Thanks for any info...
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
From: poc@maths.tcd.ie (Philip O'Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 12:59:58 -0000
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Message-ID: <3flnoe$qm8@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) writes:
>I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
>computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
>with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
>perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
>pat
>pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
I believe DEC did a study where they found that they could predict some
70% of drive failures before they happened simply by logging things like
strange noises and increasing soft error rates. This is from memory though I
have seen two drives fail after giving out warning signs. One of them
began making louder spinning and seeking noises. The other one was DOS
formatted and just gave more and more errors before giving up entirely.
--
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poc@maths.tcd.ie Tel: 353-1-7021720 FAX: 353-1-6772204
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Message-ID: <790517329.6@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: 19 Jan 1995 12:08:49 GMT
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) writes:
> I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
> computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
> with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
> perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
Yeah - back it up *now*. Had a drive do this just before christmas, worked
fine for a while, then had a very nice head crash gouging lumps out of the
oxide and other nasty stuff. ho hum.
-bat.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line - Great! Not?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 19 Jan 1995 12:57:16 GMT
Organization: Synergy Communication Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3flnjc$igh@legba.synergy.net>
References: <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <3fi427$nma@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
: I'm sure it is, if you can get them to take your money and
: give you a subscription.
: (munch)
: Get your act together, NIL!
I've heard this complaint before. Usually, however, it is from people
who have made the mistake of trying to get ahold of them through the
phone. They have posted to this newsgroup at least twice, saying
that leaving a phone message is unreliable and not a good idea.
Sending requests to them via e-mail is usually efficacious. You
didn't call them on the phone to beg, did you?
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: Jim.Hansen@stpete.honeywell.com (Hansen, Jim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 17:54:39 GMT
Organization: Honeywell-FL40
Message-ID: <3fm90v$c0q@spacenns.space.honeywell.com>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
In article <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>, pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) says:
>
>I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
>computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
>with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
>perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
>pat
>pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
I agree with what the others said about the drive. However, you may want to
also make sure that the fan in the power supply isn't going bad.
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Netinfo death. Ack.
Date: 19 Jan 1995 14:10:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3flrsu$k1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again all --
I woke up this morning and went through the routine of checking my mail,
which generally contains quite a few messages concerning logs and whatnot.
Lo and behold, I find a notice that I have exceeded my quota by some obscene
amount -- i.e. I was using 16 megs out of a 0 meg quota.
Well, the quota manager relies upon Netinfo to tell it the relevant fields
-- so I checked to see if Netinfo was alive -- "communication error" -- i.e.
-- it either died or something bad happened. When I checked ps, it was
running though, and I thoroughly checked my logs (Which are very detailed)
but found nothing indicating any errors or such.
So I rebooted and everything is fine, but I have to ask -- what might have
caused netinfo to choke like this? Would prolonged overnight network death
have caused it? Frankly, I'm puzzled, if not a little bit worried.
Thanks in advance! Please reply however you wish -- post here or reply to
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu, where NeXTMail is always welcome!
-- John
____________________________________________________________
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4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
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______________________________|_____________________________
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 19 Jan 1995 17:07:54 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <schaefer.95Jan181647@syrtis>
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu wrote:
: I have an HP712/60 loaded with NeXTSTEP 3.2 as the operating system.
: I have installed TeX from the NeXTSTEP distribution CD-ROM, and everything
: works fine, except: when I go to print, using either the print
: button in TeXView, or 'dvips -r -Z0 -o "\!lpr -P lp" test' from the
: command line, I'm not able to print. Instead I get an error message,
: '<tex.pro>. [1] sh: nd: not found'.
: ...
How glad I am that you brought up this problem. The same happened for
me. I recompiled the dvips source as delivered by NeXT on NS3.2/HPPA
and Moto. On the black hardware, it works well, on the HP box the pipe
crashes.
Just for fun, I tried to above on the NS/HP machine with different
shells. The result: It worked with sh and bash and it crashed with zsh
and csh! On the NS/Moto machine, it worked with all shells.
Apart from tracking down the problem, I could think of three
solutions:
- compile the newest dvips from a CTAN archive
(e.g. ftp.dante.de:/pub/tex/dviware/dvips). It definitely worked!
- modify TeXview to exec "dvips -f |lpr" instead of 'dvips -o "\!lpr"'
(drawback: PrintManager can't figure out the name of the app for a
dvips job any more)
- modify TeXview to fork a 'sh' not a 'csh' (gives problems with TeX's
environment variables)
Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Gregor
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From: ozdoba@unibe.ch (Christoph Ozdoba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:39:39 GMT
Message-ID: <3fm13r$1fq@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Pat Martin (pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
: computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
: with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
: perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
: pat
: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
Though I am not enough of an expert to tell you what's wrong,
one advice:
Make a backup. Do it ! NOW !!!
I remember that some time ago someone had a similar problem,
and I remember that he was told that this *might* be a first
sign of VERY serious trouble in the near future.
Chris
Christoph Ozdoba, M.D. University of Bern Dept. of Neuroradiology
Inselspital Freiburgstrasse CH-3010 Bern Switzerland
Phone: x41-31-632 2655 Fax: x41-31-382 2503 ozdoba@insel.unibe.ch
If you want to know more about me: http://cranium.unibe.ch/hfame.html
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Date: 19 Jan 1995 20:54:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fmjhn$jcr@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
Jason Baugher writes
) Could someone post info on how to get in touch with NeXT In Line? I'd
) like to subscribe.
From the issue #3 itself:
NEXT IN LINE
PO Box 392
Berryville, VA 22611
phone: (703)955-5045
fax: (206)361-7545
NEXT IN LINE is published quarterly (4 issues/year) by
Publishing 51. Subscription rates:
$20/year, US
$30/year, Canada
$40/year, International ($20 extra for air mail delivery)
All in US $ I believe...
Finally, feedback to NIL and info is available via:
submissions@nil.com (submitting articles)
feedback@nil.com (letters to the editor, suggestions)
advertising@nil.com (info if you want to advertise...)
But note that subscriptions are NOT being accepted by EMail
any more because too many messages were lost in the net
before they ever made it to NIL and we just don't feel it
is secure enough. As a result, you must phone/fax/snail
mail your order in to NIL. I believe that group subscription
rates are available from Rob Wyatt, rob@bedazzled.com. If
you bug him directly you _will_ eventually get results, but
here are two things to keep in mind at the moment:
(1) We are scrambling to do issue #4 right now. Rob is
the Publisher and head honcho editor, so he's really busy
right now. He is the guy who handles subscriptions, though,
so obviously he _will_ help you as best he can.
(2) The current combination of Rob's hardware, NS 3.3, and
the database software we are using is causing Rob fits at
the moment, and until that is cleared up there may be some
delays. Please be patient with him! :-)
Any other questions should probbly be directed to Rob
directly or to NIL via the above email addresses. If
you send anything to me, I'll just be passing it on
anyways, since I won't be able to answer it myself...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: root@inselnext (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: 19 Jan 1995 11:58:07 GMT
Message-ID: <3flk4g$h64@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I think the only difference is that this workstation has no
scsi-inteface
Michael Noack
inselspital Bern
Switzerland
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:21:36 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml50$1ou@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:21:48 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml5c$1p0@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:22:06 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml5u$1te@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:22:32 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml6o$1tk@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:22:56 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml7g$1ts@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:23:43 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fml8v$22f@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
Well, a partial answer to this was given a while ago in another posting in
October.
Cheers,
Mark
Here it is:
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the solution
shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without*
the -O switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that
popen(), everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the
optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ; if (*oname != 0)
{
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a
exclamation * point, and popen if so. */
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else #ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1,
"w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:27:33 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fmlg5$23f@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3fm69a$ok0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Nevertheless, I'd like to know about the reason for the crash. Is it a
> bug in a routine used in csh and zsh, but not in sh and bash ?
The problem and answer were pointed out back in October. Here is the
old post.
Cheers,
Mark
From: dicosmo@verveine.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Dvips bug on HP (SOLUTION) + HP compiler bug
Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:44:55 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <DICOSMO.94Oct13124455@verveine.ens.fr>
I earlier reported a wierd bug with DVIPS on the HP 3.2 release of
NEXTSTEP. Here is the description and the solution, that turns out to
point out a bug in the optimizer of the HP compiler. I found the
solution shorlty after my previous posting.
DESCRIPTION:
As shipped, dvips does not handle properly the redirection of
output to a pipe. If you try:
dvips -o"| lpr -Pmyprinter" foo.dvi
here is what we get
This is dvips 5.51 Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye
Software
' TeX output 1994.10.07:1813' -> | lpr -Pmyprinter
<tex.pro><special.pro>. sh: nd: not found
Broken pipe
SOLUTION:
In the source file output.c, there is a call to popen() that the
optimizer completely screws up.
The easiest solution is then to just compile output.c *without* the -O
switch.
MORE DETAILS:
If you add a call to error or fprintf or the like before that popen(),
everything works fine. (here is the code mangled by the optimizer:
/* if we add this line, it works....
error(" ");
*/
n *= pagecopies * collatedcopies ;
if (*oname != 0) {
/*
* We check to see if the first character is a exclamation
* point, and popen if so.
*/
if (*oname == '!' || *oname == '|') {
#ifdef MSDOS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
#ifdef VMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
#ifdef VMCMS
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
#ifdef MVSXA
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
#ifdef __THINK__
error("! can't open output pipe") ;
#else
if (secure || (bitfile=popen(oname+1, "w"))==NULL)
error("! couldn't open output pipe") ;
else
popened = 1 ;
)
The bizarre nd: not found error is the result of the program
passing to the shell "nd header file %s" from a string in the
program data segment on the popen() call. If you add debugging
code to the program, this error changes, as different kind of
garbage is sent down the pipe. This typically pinpoints a compiler
error.
Thanx to all the people that answered to my previous posting reporting
that they have the same problem.
--Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
LIENS
Ecole Normale Superieure
45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] TeX on NeXTSTEP-HP
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:29:58 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fmlkm$23v@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <3fmlg5$23f@newshost.lanl.gov>
Curse you NewsGrazer! Sorry about that.
Mark
From: nklein@access1.digex.net (Norman Klein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 10:20:46 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <3fm00e$dfu@access1.digex.net>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu> <3flnoe$qm8@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
>
>>I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
>>computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
>>with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
>>perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
>>pat
>>pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
Yeah, I also have a Qunatum ProDrive 1.2GB drive and it is also louder
than hell, but works fine. I have gone through several cases trying to
quiet the damn thing down, but it is still loud. I would still take more
frequent backups to be on the safe side, but I think that the damn things
were just engineered to run loud. Kind of the Harley Davidson of the hard
drive crowd.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter Herweijer)
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Message-ID: <D2nttL.GB7@sci.kun.nl>
Sender: news@sci.kun.nl (News owner)
Followups-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu> <790517329.6@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:00:56 GMT
A note to whoever posts followups in this thread. Note that the original
poster has felt it necessary to do some overenthusiastic crossposting,
yet failed to set a Followups-To: field. If you still want to respond,
you might want to trim the Newsgroups: line to whatever you think is
appropriate (I'd say a non-system specific .storage group).
- Peter Herweijer
pieterh@sci.kun.nl
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Date: 19 Jan 1995 23:55:50 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3fmu66$grc@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
In article <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
jbaugher@amadeus.glenqcy.glenayre.com (Jason Baugher) writes:
> Could someone post info on how to get in touch with NeXT In Line? I'd
> like to subscribe.
NEXT IN LINE
P.O. Box 392
Berryville VA 22611
nil-info@nil.com
703/955-5045
206/361-7545 fax
$20 / year (4 issues)
$30 Canada
$40 International (add $20 for air mail delivery)
---
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin)
Subject: PostScript and Fonts
Message-ID: <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr>
Sender: yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin)
Organization: MICRO REPONSE - MONTIGNY, FRANCE.
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 23:15:54 GMT
PLEASE, NEXTSTEP SOFTWARE EDITOR COMPANIES... MAKE AN EFFORT!
I'm browsing the new 3.3 Third Party CD-ROM (especially with the
beautiful Spotlight application). I find PostScript files (for application
feature descriptions, or as order templates). And now again, too many of
them use "exotic" fonts.
Can you accept the idea we are a lot of users who don't have all the fonts
you include in your documents. (Even NeXT makes this kind of mistake :-)
So what, please, can you use "very standard" NEXTSTEP distribution fonts
like Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol?
And, if really, it's a too big effort, may be, you can have advantage of
the special feature in the Print Panel Save option: "include font and
printer information" in the PS file.
Thanks to take this into consideration.
Yannick Cadin
--
MICRO REPONSE
3, rue Jacques Daguerre - 95370 MONTIGNY - FRANCE
Tel : 33 (1) 34.50.89.39 - Fax : 33 (1) 34.50.09.08
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Recommendations on external drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 14:47:58 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <3flu2u$for@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
I need to buy an external drive for my old slab. I need something
fairly big (500 meg at a minimum) and fast, and economical, but am
also concerned to get something I can eventually use with an intel
machine (this old slab isn't going to last forever, and the hard drive
will probably outlive it). Any information, thoughts, etc. much
appreciated.
Many thanks,
=========================================================================
Chris Swoyer | Internet ----> cswoyer@uoknor.edu
Department of Philosophy | Office Phone ----> (405) 325-6324
University of Oklahoma | Home Phone ------> (405) 360-9745
Norman, Oklahoma 73019-0535 | Fax -------------> (405) 325-4737
=========================================================================
From: Muhly@wmgtfac.wharton.upenn.edu (Alexis Muhly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Installing NextStep to a Gateway p5-90
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 22:32:05 -0500
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <Muhly-190195223205@wmgt-53.wharton.upenn.edu>
I have an older Gateway p5-90 with 3 IDE Harddrives (1.0gb, 540mb, 424mb)
and a QuadSpeed Mitsumi IDE cd-rom. I would like to install NextStep onto
this system. Will I run into any trouble installing. The NextStep box made
no mention of support for IDE cd-roms.
Thanks
--
Alexis Muhly
muhly@wmgtfac.wharton.upenn.edu
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:50:05 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fm1nd$n8u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Pat Martin writes
> I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
> computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
> with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
> perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
Very likely the spindle bearings are dying. I had this happen to
a Quantum 200 MB drive in one of my stations. The day the noise
started I bought a replacement drive, plugged it in as /dev/sd1a,
and used dump/restore to mirror the contents of the old drive
onto the new one. Then I opened the station and installed the new
drive in place of the old one. Didn't lose one byte of data, and
the total down time for the system was about 20 minutes.
A drive with loud bearing whine probably won't last very long. I
suspect that the bearings will fail completely within days of the
sudden onset of the noise. If you wait until that happens, your
data is gonzo. At the very least you should make a couple of tape
dumps of the disk's contents right away, so that you can restore
your file system when ("when", not "if") the disk dies.
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
Network manager, Web manager and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/finleyg.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: Setting up X-windows, need mwm
In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk's message of 19 Jan 1995 22:25:39 -0000
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan20012719@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3fkfbc$2t9m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3fmot3$jat@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 06:27:19 GMT
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk> writes:
Robert> warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) wrote
Robert> in comp.sys.next.misc
>> Hi -
>>
>> I have a Big Green CD with X on it, several window managers but
>> not mwm. I need to be able to run some Motif applications on a
>> remote machine over a SLIP connection and am wondering if there
>> is a public domain window manager that will let me do it? Can
>> anyone offer some tips in setting this up? Am willing to pay
>> $$ if no public domain solution available. Thanks in advance
>> for the info.
>>
>> Rich
Robert> Show me one public domain version of mwm...
I heard co-Xist or CubXWindow (one of them I don't remember which)
supports Motif. You should get both of them at ftp.cs.orst.edu
and check it. Of course, you will have to pay for this.
When I want to run some motif based app on my cube I just start
mwm on the remote computer and use MouseX (the shareware X server).
Works well for me.
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Date: 20 Jan 1995 04:06:28 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fncs4$ne2@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3fmjhn$jcr@bones.et.byu.edu>
In article <3fmjhn$jcr@bones.et.byu.edu> don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
writes:
> I believe that group subscription rates are available
> from Rob Wyatt, rob@bedazzled.com. If you bug him
> directly you _will_ eventually get results, but here are
> two things to keep in mind at the moment:
Here's one thing for you NIL folks to keep in mind:
no subscribers = no cash flow = no NIL (issue #4
or any issue)!
NIL has got to gets it's subscription act together.
I've heard from Rob, and I hope to be receiving the
bulk subscription information soon.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Harddisk eating - solution found!
Date: 20 Jan 1995 12:36:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3foap2$2qrc@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
It's been a day and a half now with no HD eating going on, so I'm
cautiously posting a fix. I replaced the netinfo database with one from
under .../templates/client/misc then replaced my user accounts with
HostManager and reloaded my other NetInfo resources (like fax/modem).
Hope this continues to be a fix.
Rich
From: Jason Glithero <jglithe@imap2.asu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: HP3000 Emulation for NextStep
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:16:37 -0700
Organization: Arizona State University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950118211057.23412A-100000@general1>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello,
I am looking for software for my wifes company that emulates an
HP3000 on NextStep 3.1 . Currently reflections is run on windows and
they would like to run an emulation though NextStep.
E-mail responses would be appreciate.
Thank You in advance.....
The world is upon us, geeez get it off.
OOOO OOOO Jason Glithero Arizona State University
O O O O Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
OOOO OOOO jglithe@imap2.asu.edu
O
OOO
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:29:02 GMT
Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and I'm
now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in large
part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
I just took a short document I wrote the other day that had a lot of images
in it, and used some "exotic" typefaces (Stone Sans from Adobe). On
the NeXT I saved it out as PS with fonts, and brought it over to a Mac
to "distill" it into PDF using Adobe's Distiller. It went from a 14MB
PS file to a 300K document, and I could open it on a Mac IIci that
had no "exotic" fonts installed and, while it wasn't exactly the same,
it was close enough (spacing preserved, etc.).
PDF, with its various forms of compression and multi-master font
technology and hyperlinks, is clearly a maturing technology that NeXT
is in a unique postion to leverage off of. It's a shame to see that
in the scramble stay alive, they're not continuing to push the
envelope in on-line document formats. I also think it sucks that Adobe
hasn't put out a UNIX command line PDF expander so that those of
use who prefer not to have to turn to a Mac or Windows PC can take
the increasingly ubiquitous PDF files (i.e. last two years on-line doc
from SIGGRAPH was PDF, etc) and turn them into printable postscript.
I can't believe that this would be hard for them, and in one fell
swoop would quiet most of the complaint about PDF in the UNIX
community, since you could easily pipe that PS to Display PostScript
or ghostscript.
- wave
In article <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr> yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin) writes:
>>PLEASE, NEXTSTEP SOFTWARE EDITOR COMPANIES... MAKE AN EFFORT!
>>
>>I'm browsing the new 3.3 Third Party CD-ROM (especially with the
>>beautiful Spotlight application). I find PostScript files (for application
>>feature descriptions, or as order templates). And now again, too many of
>>them use "exotic" fonts.
>>
>>Can you accept the idea we are a lot of users who don't have all the fonts
>>you include in your documents. (Even NeXT makes this kind of mistake :-)
>>
>>So what, please, can you use "very standard" NEXTSTEP distribution fonts
>>like Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol?
>>And, if really, it's a too big effort, may be, you can have advantage of
>>the special feature in the Print Panel Save option: "include font and
>>printer information" in the PS file.
>>
>>Thanks to take this into consideration.
>>
>>Yannick Cadin
>>--
>> MICRO REPONSE
>> 3, rue Jacques Daguerre - 95370 MONTIGNY - FRANCE
>> Tel : 33 (1) 34.50.89.39 - Fax : 33 (1) 34.50.09.08
--
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--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to PageUp and PageDown with one hand?
Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:41:50 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <3fosku$4ui@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Hi.
Is there a way to page up or down using only the mouse or
only the keyboard. I know about Alt-UpScrollButton and
Alt-DownScrollButton -- but that takes both hands. I also
know about clicking in the scroll bar just above or below the
knob -- but that does not scroll exactly by a page.
Is there some way to redefine keys so that Alt-UpArrow and
Alt-DownArrow on the keyboard (or some other key combination)
will do PageUp and PageDown.
Thanks.
Milind A. Bakhle
mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Setting up X-windows, need mwm
Date: 19 Jan 1995 22:25:39 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <3fmot3$jat@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3fkfbc$2t9m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc
>Hi -
>
> I have a Big Green CD with X on it, several window managers but
>not mwm. I need to be able to run some Motif applications on a remote
>machine over a SLIP connection and am wondering if there is a public
>domain window manager that will let me do it? Can anyone offer some
>tips in setting this up? Am willing to pay $$ if no public domain
>solution available. Thanks in advance for the info.
>
>Rich
Show me one public domain version of mwm...
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line - Great! Not?
Message-ID: <rwyattD2oGon.su@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <3fhs6n$9c7@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <3fi427$nma@news.ycc.yale.edu> <3flnjc$igh@legba.synergy.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 00:14:46 GMT
In article <3flnjc$igh@legba.synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) writes:
>Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
>: I'm sure it is, if you can get them to take your money and
>: give you a subscription.
>: (munch)
>: Get your act together, NIL!
>
>I've heard this complaint before. Usually, however, it is from people
>who have made the mistake of trying to get ahold of them through the
>phone. They have posted to this newsgroup at least twice, saying
>that leaving a phone message is unreliable and not a good idea.
>
>Sending requests to them via e-mail is usually efficacious. You
>didn't call them on the phone to beg, did you?
>
>--
>____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
>\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
> =(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
> U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
Let me take this opportunity to clear up a few things. First, I promised
Nathan some information before we decided to cut our print schedule back
to quarterly (for financial reasons). After the decision was made, I
informed him that I'd send him our new bulk subscription rates ASAP.
Unfortunately, sending this information out got overlooked in the frenzy to
get #3 mailed and to deal with a wealth of good article submissions.
Nathan has every reason to be upset with us. However, he'll get the info.
he requested on Monday. Sorry for the delay Nathan! :-)
I understand the frustration some of you feel when dealing with us. But,
please understand that NEXT IN LINE is a second or third job for most of
us. We try to do the best we can, but at the moment the NEXTSTEP market
can't support a 100% full-time magazine. And, the unwillingness to
advertise in NIL by several major players in the NEXTSTEP market (you
know who they are) makes it even harder. Thank goodness for Stone
Design, TipTop Software, OpenSource, SofDesign, Athena Design, AFS,
WhiteLight, and all of our other great advertisers and supporters.
These are the people I sincerely hope you will buy products from!
As for the phone...our voice mail system is 100% reliable. However, we
don't really have a lot of time to call someone back just to get an
address to send a free copy to. If you want a free copy, call us, leave
your address, etc. Don't say something like: "Hey, this is Bob. Call
me at 555-1212 and I'll give you my address." We don't have time for
that kind of stuff.
I hope that helps explain where we are coming from a bit better.
Thanks for listening.
-Rob Wyatt
Editor/Publisher
NEXT IN LINE
703.955.5045
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
rwyatt@netcom.com (ASCII)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: AFS and 3.3?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 22:19:57 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fmoid$cc9@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3fl4ed$c5m@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) writes:
> Hello,
>
> my question is quite simple - is there someone who managed to
> run 3.3 and AFS on a black NeXT? If so, please get in touch with
> me - I kinda need that. Thanks.
>
> Waiting for a miracle,
I suspect it won't work, and furthermore I suspect that Transarc
isn't likely to produce a version for NS/m68k-3.3. I would be
very happy to be proven wrong, of course.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:11:40 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950120011140.7041AACUE.malc@white>
References: <3fiasi$m0p@redstone.interpath.net> <3fjm0i$dt3@crchh78b.bnr.ca> <3fkeim$lr2@xmission.xmission.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Further to Kristopher's admirably concise summary, here's the relevant
expanded press release: I presume it will hit csn.announce eventually...
What I want to know though is when will the object.station 51 be
available...??
And apart from that, if anybody's interested I'll let you know how I get on
with my machine when it arrives next week...
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: Canon Introduce Latest in Line of NEXTSTEP-Optimised
Workstations
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 00:21:47 GMT
To: uk-next-announce@plsys.com
PORTLAND, Ore., January 16, 1995 -- In continued dedication to
NEXTSTEP users, the Advanced Technologies Operation (ATO) of Canon
Computer Systems, Inc. (CCSI) today introduced the object.station
31, an entry-level addition to its line of Intel 486-based personal
workstations. The object.station 31 is specially optimized to run
NEXTSTEP, the most advanced object-oriented software for developing
custom client-server applications, and is targeted at price-conscious
corporate buyers who need optimized solutions today.
Committed NeXT users such as Swiss Bank Corporation use NEXTSTEP and
the object.station 41 -- Canon's first NEXTSTEP optimized workstation
-- to develop and deploy mission-critical applications enterprise-wide.
"Object.stations combined with NEXTSTEP are the complete solution
for Fortune 1000 companies' enterprise-wide client/server computing
needs," said Dale Fuller, director of marketing for the ATO group.
"NEXTSTEP is the most mature object-oriented software available, and
combined with our object.stations, provides programmers with the
performance boost necessary to rapidly develop mission-critical
custom applications."
Object.stations
The object.station 31 incorporates a 486DX4/100 MHz microprocessor
and a high-performance video subsystem to run NEXTSTEP and NEXTSTEP
applications dramatically faster than other Intel-based systems.
Canon's proprietary video subsystem speeds video throughput at
NEXTSTEP's native resolution to dramatically improve overall video
performance, while maintaining compatibility with a wide-range of
video standards, including super VGA resolutions.
The object.station 41, which was introduced in June 1994, employs
all the performance-enhancing features of the object.station 31, but
includes additional enhancements to provide even greater performance.
For example, in place of the object.station 31's IDE interface, the
object.station 41 incorporates a specially optimized SCSI (Small
Computer Systems Interface) controller to boost overall I/O
performance. The object.station 41 performs up to 30 percent faster
than standard 486-based systems and up to 15 percent faster than
Pentium-based systems based on NeXT's NX benchmark. And to preserve a
corporation's existing investment in Windows, Canon has ensured that
the optimization for NEXTSTEP does not affect an object.station's
ability to run Windows or Windows applications.
Object.stations come bundled with a 30-day demo version of Insignia
Solutions' SoftPC Windows emulation software, allowing users to run
Windows applications within the NEXTSTEP environment. Object.station
users can also partition their hard drives to run both Windows and
NEXTSTEP.
The object.stations are targeted at existing NEXTSTEP users and
Fortune 1000 companies in the financial, transportation and
telecommunications industries that are adopting object technology.
The object.station 31 and object.station 41 are the first systems in
a line of CCSI/ATO personal workstations designed to run specific
advanced operating systems.
Configurations
Customers can order object.stations "ready out of the box" with
NEXTSTEP pre-installed. Both models feature 2MB of VRAM, which allow
video resolutions of up to 1280 x 1024 pixels, and16MB of RAM
standard, expandable in 16MB increments to 112MB. They come standard
with 17" color monitors, a NEXTSTEP-specific keyboard with volume and
brightness controls, and they are upgradeable to the Pentium
OverDrive CPU, allowing organizations to preserve their hardware
investments. The object.station 41 features a high resolution
monitor, 500MB SCSI hard disk, with a 1GB drive available as an
option. The developer version of the model 41 comes standard with
32MB of RAM, expandable to 112MB.
Pricing for the object.station 31 starts at under $4,000 and the
object.station 41 at under $5,000. Both systems are available
immediately, and Canon provides a one-year limited warranty and
seven-day, 24-hour phone support for buyers.
Strategic Partners
"Object.stations are the clear choice for NEXTSTEP users, because
they provide the best performance of any Intel machine we've tested,"
said Ted Shelton, president and CEO of Information Technology
Solutions. "Object.stations provide a measurable and noticeable
improvement over PCs when it comes to developing and deploying
NEXTSTEP applications."
Canon is working with Information Technology Solutions and other
strategic partners to provide customers the service and support they
need as they adopt object technology, like business and personal
productivity applications, as well as training in object-oriented
programming and the NEXTSTEP OS.
"We're working with Canon's ATO to offer customers a complete
solution to their business needs," said Chip Goodman, president of
WhiteLight Systems, another Canon partner. "Our software,
WhiteLight/Engineer, is used by major international corporations for
their most challenging budgeting, business modeling, financial
reporting and planning applications. We use them ourselves and
recommend them to our customers for terrific NEXTSTEP performance at
an affordable price."
Founded in 1992, Canon Computer Systems, Inc. is chartered to lead
Canon's efforts in the U.S. computing market. The company develops
and markets desktop and notebook PCs, scanners and printers under the
Canon brand name using its proven Bubble Jet, laser and other Canon
technologies. Through its recently formed Advanced Technologies
Operation (ATO), CCSI supplies optimized personal workstation
products for Fortune 1000 companies and supports user workgroups and
enterprise computing requirements worldwide. CCSI is headquartered in
Costa Mesa, Calif. and the ATO is based in Portland, Ore.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Message-ID: <D2Iyvp.3ur@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:02:13 GMT
In article <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com> bjones@cais2.cais.com (Systemworks)
writes:
#When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund instead
#of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine. Well,
#that was what, almost a year ago and still no refund. Everytime I have
#called the publisher they keep giving me the run-around about that they
#are going to be processing refunds and 6 to 8 weeks and blah blah blah ...
#
#Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet? I'm
#really beginning to wonder if I will ever see a refund! Can the publisher
#even afford the refunds (i.e. are they going bankrupt?). Please let me
#know what you have found.
I got my refund about 1 month ago.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: HP3000 Emulation for NextStep
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Date: 20 Jan 1995 04:27:33 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3fne3l$d92@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950118211057.23412A-100000@general1>
Jason Glithero (jglithe@imap2.asu.edu) wrote:
: Hello,
: I am looking for software for my wifes company that emulates an
: HP3000 on NextStep 3.1 . Currently reflections is run on windows and
: they would like to run an emulation though NextStep.
If there were enough seats involved, I am sure YRRID would write an emulator...
try niall@yrrid.com.
Dave
From: a05i@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Kai Fuhrmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Attaching Conner CFP 1060S in NeXTstation
Date: 21 Jan 1995 15:38:30 GMT
Organization: Zentrum fuer Netze, Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <3fr9pm$k8n@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
Hi,
i have attached an Conner CFP 1060S Harddisc as boot disc in my NeXTstation.
Installing NS3.3 was easy than ever, but one problem is still around:
Sometimes the NeXT isn't able to access the harddisc. The boot monitor just
says "Waiting for drive to become ready............... and so on ....",
and the harddisc spins up and down all the way. I have set the SCSI ID to 0
and 1, also i jumpered E5 (Disable Spin Delay) on and off.
This all happens especially after powering down the system short time ago.
In my opinion, something has to be wrong with the timing between computer
and harddisc because in about 60-80% all goes well!?
Thanks for your help in advance!
Kai
-----------------------------------------
Kai Fuhrmeister email: a05i@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de
Voltastrasse 52
28357 Bremen
Germany
From: troyw@csn.net (Troy Weingart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS Developer 3.3
Date: 21 Jan 1995 21:31:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado Supernet
Message-ID: <3frueq$8gv@news-2.csn.net>
Does anyone know when NS 3.3 Developer will be released? I'm interested in the
educational 3.3, but I understand that currently it ships with 3.3 User/3.2
Developer.
Thanks for any info
Troy
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From: tal@plts.org (Tom Limoncelli)
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From: prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr (Laurent PREVOSTO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: AppFinder.tool process never stops growing up !
Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:14:16 GMT
Organization: ENSTBR, Brest, France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PREVOSTO.95Jan21171416@anubis.enstb.enst-bretagne.fr>
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I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.2hp on a 715.
There already were at least 2 disk crashes provoking kernel fault,
failed reboot and a real mess on the disk...
Moreover i was wondering why my disk always seemed to be busy and i found why :
When i log on, WM spawns a process called WM.app/AppFinder.tool
and during the whole session, the size of the process never stops increasing 'til
its size is near 17mega ! Of course the system spends its time swapping and the disk
is overloaded... I read on comp.sys.next.bug that there was probably a problem with HP
SCSI. It's maybe what made the system crah...
What i want to know is : what is AppFinder.tool (if i kill the process, nothing
happens)... and if a fixed version (without molloc holes) exists.
Thanx for helping
Laurent
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From: gj@irock.com ("G. J.")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NSFIP (pre) install questions
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 11:15:30 -0800
Organization: iRock.Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <gj-2101951115300001@gj.irock.com>
References: <95Jan19.083724@EE.Stanford.EDU>
In article <95Jan19.083724@EE.Stanford.EDU>, park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang
Ju Park) wrote:
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I have questions about installing NSFIP.
>
> 1) Can I install it on a DOS logical Drive ? To be
> more specific, I have a hard disk that has primary
> partitions and a extended partition. I use some of
> the extended partition for DOS use and reserved some
> free space inside the extendded partition for NS.
> Can I use it for NS installation ? Or should I designate
> the whole extended partition for NEXTSTEP ?
>
> 3) Does anybody know if I could use OS/2's bootmanager
> to boot NEXTSTEP after installing NS ? If, yes,
> would you let me know how I can do this ?
No only can you not do what you stated above, but you should
really consider dedicating a seperate SCSI drive to NSFIP.
Make sure that drive is the only one in your machine when
you install NSFIP. I run 5 OS on my P90.
1. MSDOS 6.22
2. OS/2 Warp 3.0
3. Linux
4. Win/NT 3.5
5. NSFIP 3.3
The safest this is to use boot loading floppies for Unix and
andvance OS on a multiple OS config system.
Warp's Boot Manager is good for Warp and MSDOS only.
--
"G. J." at iROCK.Communications[TM]
mailto:gj@irock.com <http://www.irock.com>
The small 'i' is for interactive,
and the WWW stands for Wacky, Wacky, Wacky!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
In-Reply-To: treed@bmt.gun.com's message of 16 Jan 1995 22:53:11 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jan21193014@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <D2F2G2.JBM@news2.new-york.net> <3fetcn$3ue@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 00:30:14 GMT
I don't see any reason why NeXT wouldn't be willing to release the source code
to CDPlayer.app. It's not exactly mission critical and would be a nice toy
for hackers to play with.
NeXT, are you listening?
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Bug in UUCP over TCP/IP in 3.3?
In-Reply-To: anderson's message of Thu, 19 Jan 1995 03:57:28 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jan21193332@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1995Jan19.035728.8083@biztech.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 00:33:32 GMT
Ken,
You should be using GNU Taylor UUCP. It's beyond me why NeXT doesn't just ship
it with NS. It can be found on prep.ai.mit.edu. Many NS sites are using it.
It's free, has source code, is *much* faster, is more secure and reliable.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: pblais@mr.net (Paul Blais)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Suddenly LOUD Drive
Date: 21 Jan 1995 06:00:50 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network
Message-ID: <3fq7ui$n6e@cedar.mr.net>
References: <3fkn4a$dvd@mark.ucdavis.edu> <3fm13r$1fq@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In <3fm13r$1fq@aragorn.unibe.ch>, ozdoba@unibe.ch (Christoph Ozdoba) writes:
>Pat Martin (pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
>: I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 540MB internal drive inside my
>: computer itself and all of a sudden it has become very LOUD
>: with a whining type of sound; however, it is functioning
>: perfectly. Any hints clues or ideas appreciated.
>: pat
>: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
I does happen and often there are no problems to wory about. Wierd disk noises
have been commmon for years. A good backup is always a good idea as they often
fail without making any noise. Most all drive develop a personality that varies even amoung
the same make and model. Sometime running it for a day or two straight will shake
it out. It may go away and come back too. I had one that would sound like a dive
bomber, make a few bomb runs then go away for a while. Ran like that for a very long
time. Getting drives repaired is really expensive and mostly only for un backed up
data recovery. If the drive is more than a few years old it is hardly ever worth it.
back it up often (good idea always) and keep an eye on it. Start dreaming about a
new killer drive. If you satrt to get a lot of hard errors, chuck it. Run CHKDSK or
SCANDISK or another disk utility regularly to find errors before they get out of hand.
Older drives need a little more TLC to help them through old age.
>
>Though I am not enough of an expert to tell you what's wrong,
>one advice:
>
>Make a backup. Do it ! NOW !!!
>
>I remember that some time ago someone had a similar problem,
>and I remember that he was told that this *might* be a first
>sign of VERY serious trouble in the near future.
>
>Chris
>
>Christoph Ozdoba, M.D. University of Bern Dept. of Neuroradiology
>Inselspital Freiburgstrasse CH-3010 Bern Switzerland
>Phone: x41-31-632 2655 Fax: x41-31-382 2503 ozdoba@insel.unibe.ch
>If you want to know more about me: http://cranium.unibe.ch/hfame.html
Paul M Blais - pblais@mr.net - St Paul, MN
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NSFIP (pre) install questions
Date: 19 Jan 1995 16:38:20 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jan19.083724@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello Everyone.
I have questions about installing NSFIP.
1) Can I install it on a DOS logical Drive ? To be
more specific, I have a hard disk that has primary
partitions and a extended partition. I use some of
the extended partition for DOS use and reserved some
free space inside the extendded partition for NS.
Can I use it for NS installation ? Or should I designate
the whole extended partition for NEXTSTEP ?
3) Does anybody know if I could use OS/2's bootmanager
to boot NEXTSTEP after installing NS ? If, yes,
would you let me know how I can do this ?
Thank you very much.
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: C compiler for NS 3.3 user
Message-ID: <edewD2sKs9.F64@netcom.com>
Sender: Eric Dew
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 05:33:44 GMT
Ok, here's the situation: I'm planning to take a course on C language
programming. There are no computers available at the class, so I have to use
whatever is available. I do own a NeXT workstation (16/405/33 mono).
It is running NS 3.3 user. I would like to be able to do C programming on it,
but because it is a user OS, I can't. Or can I? Well, if I type 'cc' in a
terminal window, it does run. However, none of the header files are
present anywhere (I did a search for *.h files and none of the standard
things like stdio.h, stdlib.h, etc. were found.)
Is there a way for me to get these files and whatever accompanying files
and executables without having to pay for a developer OS? I don't want all
of what the developer offers (unless that's all it offers above the user OS),
I just want to be able to do some C compiling.
I know there gcc available via anonymous ftp from the various ftp sites that
carry NeXT stuff, but I'm not sure whrere they should be placed (or is it
pretty clear, like everything else with NeXT software?) and I really don't
have the time to download 5+ MB worth of ascii (via uuencoding) text through
my modem: 5MB might take me about 7+ hours!.
In closing: anywhere I can buy a C ompiler for NeXT for cheap? Suggestions or
comments?
Your can either email me your reply (since I often don't read this particular
newsgroup) or post it here for everyone else (and I'll just keep a keeneye
out for your replies).
Thanks,
EDEW
(edew@netcom.com)
From: un5p@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Eric Schaetzlein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD Player (and source to CDPlayer.app)
Date: 22 Jan 1995 17:10:47 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fu3in$7tk@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <ROBERT.95Jan17211433@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3fhusc$pef@xexos.xexos.com>
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Mark Chamberlain (mark@xexos.com) wrote:
: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
: > Mark just about every decent CDPlayer does this so let's not praise NT
: > for that. To my knowledge mxcd and workman and some on the Amiga too
: > all provide that simple database functionality.
: Try using NT all day and you'd be clutching at those kind of straws too..
The only purpose of NT is to emulate a CD-PLAYER.
Wonder how they got NT so fast to do this in real-time...
But now to something completely different -
CDPlayer.app doesn't work with AHA-1542CF and Toshiba XM-3401B, and
couldn't get play3401 to work, either.
Could anyone give me a clue? Any configuration hints?
Thank you in advance,
-Eric.
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From: erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 21 Jan 1995 22:49:58 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3fskl6$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com>
I never even got the replacement mag...
From: iotov@sgi1.wag.caltech.edu (Mihail Iotov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT company contact ?
Date: 22 Jan 1995 22:02:43 GMT
Organization: M/MSC
Sender: iotov@degas (Mihail Iotov)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fukm3$2tl@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: contact
How to I contact the NeXT company ?
Thanks,
Mihail Iotov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tryan@world.std.com (Tom Ryan)
Subject: newbie Q: mouse prefs
Message-ID: <D2rJHy.30I@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 16:08:22 GMT
I just got a NeXT box, and was fiddling with the preferences--I selected
the right mouse button for the pop-up menu.
Unfortunately, the right mouse button is also used as the select button.
How do I disable the current prefs and start again???
Thanks for any help.
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for rev control systems and CASE tools
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 08:06:57 -0500
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <hacker-2201950806570001@dcc00171.slip.digex.net>
The company I work for is looking for source code (and NIBS, etc if we can
get it) systems for the NeXT. Is CVS about the only game in town? We
have a 6-person development team that needs to do the usual team
development source code control thing. What products are out there?
Also we're interested in CASE tools for the NeXT. Something that let's us
design software graphically and then spits out code that can be
controlled. Objective C prefered of course. Any ideas?
- Hacker
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Error occurred while linking driver DPT2012
Date: 23 Jan 1995 10:09:23 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3fuoj3$edk@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <3fjaj5$o2n@transfer.stratus.com>
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Keywords: Nextstep3.2
idscoord@sw.stratus.com writes:
>NeXTStep3.2 on 486/66:
>I believe there is a bug in the DPT driver (see below); it seemingly has
>crashed my kernel and disk.
>Apparently there is a fixed driver from ftp.next.com. In what directory?
>Please tell me how to install.
>Thanks in advance,
>--Brian
>brianw@isis.com
>508-490-6540
>..had a message like "kernel error: type c to continue or r to
>reboot"
>This is about the third time in a week this message has appeared.
>I typed r, and now I cannot boot this PC in NeXTStep3.2 nor in DOS.
>The errors (at boot time):
>"Error occurred while linking driver Floppy:
>rld(): Floppy symbol (objc_msgSend)'s n_sect field (0) is greater than the
>number of sections in this object ()
>Error loading driver Floppy
>Reading config: /usr/DEvices/DPT2012.config/Instance0.table
>Loading binary for DPT2012
>Error occurred while linking driver DPT2012:
>rld(): DPT2012 symbol (_objc_msgSend)'s n_sect field (0) is greater than
>the
>number of sections in this object ()
>Error loading driver DPT2012
>Errors encountered while starting up the computer.
>Pausing 5 seconds...
>Starting NEXTSTEP
>[...infinite hang...]
I am not sure that you should be so quick as to blame this on the DPT
driver. I am seeing similar problems occasionally while trying to install
NS3.3 on my 486/66, except the errors I get involve the SerialPort
driver, and I'm using an Adaptec 1542C SCSI card.
NS appears to be remarkably sensitive to PC hardware, especially during
its boot phase. I'm busily changing hardware bits in an attempt to
isolate this problem.
--
========================================================================
Craig Smith (61 3) 353 2471 cs@kau1.kodak.com
Office Imaging Division Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SEARCHING: PD X-server for NSI
Date: 23 Jan 1995 11:44:34 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g04r2$gtb@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: X-windows, Public Domain, server
Hello,
Is there a public domain (or low cost) X-server for INTEL-based NeXTSTEP
(NSI)? I downloaded MouseX, but the README says that it won't run on NSI,
just black hardware. Period. (says the README).
Thanks for your pointers,
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
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Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 12:06:32 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3g0648$ks@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
References: <3fskl6$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
In article <3fskl6$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch) writes:
I got a cheque for $9.60 - which cost me $8 to cash =:-0
I gather we ex-subscribers were going to be sent copies of a new magazine -
called NextInLine or somesuch. As yet, I have received nothing - I guess they
can't afford the transatlantic postage!
--
Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
EnvironmentGroup Fax : +786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University
Scotland FK9 4LA
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From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Canon object.station 31
Date: 22 Jan 1995 18:39:17 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <3fu8ol$q96@news.onramp.net>
References: <3fkeim$lr2@xmission.xmission.com>
In article <3fkeim$lr2@xmission.xmission.com> kris@xmission.com
(Kristopher Magnusson) writes:
> Michael Shandony (vanhalen@bnr.ca) wrote:
> : Does anyone know what the difference is between the object.station 31
and
> : the object.station 41?
>
> (1) Lower refresh rates
> (2) IDE controller instead of SCSI
> (3) $3999 vs. $4999
And this price doesn't include a monitor, does it?
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hoessml@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Michael Hoess)
Subject: 3D-Accelerator-Gfx-Cards for NX/INTEL
Message-ID: <D2v9Ao.KM5@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:18:23 GMT
Hi !
Are such 3D-Gfx Cards with NX/Intel-Support available on the market ?
Would the use of such cards with Textures/Rendering-Hardware (for
animations/3D-Grafix in NextWindow p.exp.) under NeXT's DisplayPostscipt
be possible/make sense ?
Thanx and Good Bye,
Michael Hoess
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 23 Jan 1995 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g11c6$27q@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:
> I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
> my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
> if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
>
> It seems odd since older NeXT hardware needs a boot floppy in
> order to boot from the CD.
>
I noticed this when I had to install 3.3 PR2 from scratch and notified
NeXT, but it was after the beta program had completed, so I guess they
didn't have time to fix the problem. The PR2 CD-ROM arrived with both
black and white boot floppies, and only the black floppy was empty. Kinda
makes one wonder how many black beta test sites were involved. Kinda
makes one wonder how much longer NeXT will support black hardware.
I ended up using my 3.2 boot floppy which worked fine. I think all
that's needed for old hardward is some sort of CD-ROM support which
probably doesn't change from release to release.
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 23 Jan 1995 20:28:01 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g13gh$oq@rosie.next.com>
References: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:
> I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
> my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
> if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
>
> It seems odd since older NeXT hardware needs a boot floppy in
> order to boot from the CD.
Actually, it does have something on it. The boot block! This doesn't
exist as part of a file system, though, so it won't show up in the File
Viewer or with a 'ls' command.
--
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
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mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please
"Hacking fine code for over 20 years."
From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 23 Jan 1995 18:54:10 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
It seems odd since older NeXT hardware needs a boot floppy in
order to boot from the CD.
--
Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing Icons of OLD apps...
Date: 23 Jan 1995 15:57:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501232157.AA19411@alleg.EDU>
Is there a way to tell an old app (from 2.x, say) to
"use" a custom drawn icon in place of the icon it was
compiled with?
yes, if you have 'segedit'
WARNING: make a backup of the app, just in case this doesn't work
right the first time.
segedit FILENAME -replace __ICON app SOMETIFF.tiff -output SOMEFILE
where SOMETIFF.tiff is the name of the .tiff file you want to use,
FILENAME is the original file and SOMEFILE is the output file.
Once this is done just do:
mv SOMEFILE FILENAME
You can copy an application's icon by
segedit INPUTFILE -extract __ICON app TIFFNAME.tiff
where INPUTFILE is the executable file and TIFFNAME is what you want
to call the tiff file once it is made.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: parrt@arc.umn.edu (Terence Parr)
Subject: NewsGrazer vs ?
Message-ID: <D2vvw1.KtG@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: AHPCRC, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 00:24:52 GMT
Howdy folks,
I'm looking for advice as to which news reader is best on
NeXTStep. I'm grabbing NewsBase and NewsGrazer. What are the
latest versions and which is best?
Thanks in advance and please email me as I'm not frequently "here".
Terence
parrt@lonewolf.parr-research.com (NeXT Mail ok!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <1995Jan24.173445.2628@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:34:45 GMT
In article <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger) writes:
>In article <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>> Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
>> format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
>> fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and
>I'm
>> now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in
>large
>> part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
>> Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
>> only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
>> nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
>The Problem is not Acrobat, that could be done by a Third Party.
>You need MM Fonts to really enjoy PDF viewing. Thats the thing NeXT
>should implement.
Actually, the DPS in NEXTSTEP is perfectly capable of dealing with multiple
master fonts. It has been for some time now, though I can't remember exactly
which release picked up that support. What is missing is automatic font
substitution based on multiple master fonts. Nonetheless, for an app like a PDF
viewer, substitution can be handled at the app level and implemented using the
built in multiple master font mechansim.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 03:35:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g1sia$n5c@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3g0648$ks@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird) writes:
> erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch) writes:
> I got a cheque for $9.60 - which cost me $8 to cash =:-0
> I gather we ex-subscribers were going to be sent copies of a new
> magazine - called NextInLine or somesuch. As yet, I have received
> nothing - I guess they can't afford the transatlantic postage!
Next In Line is not related to the NeXTWORLD shutdown at all.
It is a new magazine that was started by different people after
NeXTWORLD stopped publishing.
If you had a refund coming from NeXTWORLD, you might have had
the chance to get issues of "Advanced Systems" to replace the
missing NeXTWORLD's that you had paid for. I have received
one issue of that myself, but that's completely different from
"Next In Line".
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: pchien@noc.tor.hookup.net (Chao-Ping Chien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Possible bug] Has any one experiencing this (nmserver die)??
Date: 24 Jan 1995 14:27:30 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <3g32oi$4c9@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Recently we have new install a few 3.3/NSI and running CUBX and we start
experiencing on license server nmserver die without any log info on console,
any idea ??
some background info:
this server is running 3.2/black, with nntpd, httpd and few other license
server. also I notice the nmserver vmsize grown to 24.4Mb
--
Chao-Ping Chien, DBA
Trimark Inv. Mgmt Inc.
Canada
pchien@trimark.com
pchien@tor.hookup.net
From: ed@internetone.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Problem with sound on Slab after upgrade to 3.3
Date: 24 Jan 1995 17:26:23 GMT
Organization: Internet One, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g3d7v$jno@io.InternetOne.COM>
Keywords: sound slab 3.3
Has anyone had this problem.
After my upgrade to 3.3 on a slab turbo, my sound play level sticks.
I can change the level in preferences or with the sound buttons but it will not change.
Rebooting resets it but then after a day or two it sticks again.
I had zero problems like this under 3.2
Any ideas??
Thanks,
---------------------------------------------------------
Ed DeBolt, Jr Internet Engineer
303-444-1993 NeXT Mail/MIME
ed@InternetOne.COM
http://www.InternetOne.COM/
---------------------------------------------------------
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: modem in portable?
Date: 25 Jan 1995 12:44:53 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g5h45$2jq@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
a friend recently put NS 3.2 on her intel-based laptop (Texas Instuments
Travel Mate). She has an internal modem. Due to power saving stuff, the modem
is switched OFF by default after a reboot. Under windoze, there is an
application to switch the modem on, but how can she switch it on under
NeXTSTEP?
Any pointers appreciated!!
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S |
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Subject: Getting core-dumps
Message-ID: <D2wKq4.J3n@rat.se>
Sender: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Organization: Research & Trade, AB.
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:20:46 GMT
How do I get a core-dump from an application launched from Workspace ??
I tried to dwrite Workspace CoreLimit, and create a /cores, but I can t
find any core-files.
/erik
--
Erik Heimdahl | "A man without hope,
Software Developer @ Research & Trade | is a man without fear."
Internet: erik@rat.se <NeXTmail> |
Tel: +46 8 21 17 50 | - Frank Miller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Message-ID: <thompsonD2wA1u.6JE@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 05:32:17 GMT
I'm fairly sure this doesn't exist, please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to see an app that pops up a reminder panel every X minutes
which tells me to take a break from typing. In a perfect world it
would also:
- allow the time between breaks to be adjusted via a preferences panel
- optionally lock the screen during the break for X minutes (again, set
X in the preferences panel)
- have a customizable reminder message (mine would say "take a break
from typing" but there may be other uses)
That's it! Anyone want to whip it together in a couple minutes? ;)
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Any NS Proj Mgmt, Metrics & Testing Products Available?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 22:35:32 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3g3vbk$ko7@potogold.rmii.com>
Hello,
I have a client who is looking for Project Management tools (revision
control, multi-user access, etc) for NEXTSTEP. She is also looking for
testing and metrics tools for her development project. Any suggestions?
--
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:14:16 GMT
In article <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
> format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
> fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and
I'm
> now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in
large
> part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
> Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
> only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
> nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
The Problem is not Acrobat, that could be done by a Third Party.
You need MM Fonts to really enjoy PDF viewing. Thats the thing NeXT
should implement.
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ack! Too many services!
Date: 25 Jan 1995 04:11:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3g47d7$19jk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes:
>hi
>ok, now that i've finally installed NS 3.2 and a bunch of new apps
>that i couldn't run under 3.0, my services have grown so large that
>a bunch of them are off the screen now. I remember a while ago
>there was some discussion about this, but I didn't pay a whole
>lot of attention to it. Could somebody out there enlighten me
>as to what I can do about this? Thanks
I, too suffered from this surfeit of convenience until I discovered
that you can scroll down the Services menu by clicking and dragging
down on the list where it disappears off-screen.
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving all humans
indy@uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 2B-3 * Champaign, IL 61820
Gerunding adverbly, Noun verbed.
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does 3.3 fix 57Kb serial port buffer problem on NeXT hardware?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 21:27:08 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g3rbc$3fp@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Apparently NeXT added support for 56Kb serial port speeds on NeXT
hardware in NeXTstep 3.2, but didn't correctly set up the buffers
(according to multiple posters in the past). Does anyone know if
this was fixed in 3.3? Or can someone tell me how to check?
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: tHe daNCeR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NNTP
Date: 24 Jan 1995 21:45:08 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g3sd4$rs6@mustang.alleg.edu>
Keywords: What is it??
I have a dumb question: What does NNTP stand for and can anyone give me
any info on what it pertains to? Does it have to do with Network
servers/clients??
Thanks...
Ricardo
--
Ricardo Cortes (tHe daNCeR)
Allegheny College
email: cortesr@alleg.edu
NeXTMail: cortesr@alleg.edu
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SLIP shopping list?
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 23:08:20 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <5i0aSwk.jhepp@delphi.com>
Considering getting a SLIP connection for web use. Would someone please
post a shopping list of hardware/software/FAQ/whatever that would help
a novice with a slab get up and running? Also a brief explanation as
to why this type of connection is desireable. Thanks in advance.
Jeff Hepp
From: tseg@access.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-DC-Washington; Nextstep/ObjectiveC Job openings; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 24 Jan 1995 23:21:37 -0500
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., MD USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3g4jkh$kpi@access4.digex.net>
Summary: Long term Job opportunity in Washington DC area.
Keywords: Excellent job environment.
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXT Step
2+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng.
4+ years commercial experience
Knowledge of local telephone switch 5, SONET, and DMS-100 are
desired but not required.
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ack! Too many services!
Date: 25 Jan 1995 05:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g4mdb$15f@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes:
>eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes:
>>my services have grown so large that
>>a bunch of them are off the screen now.
>I, too suffered from this surfeit of convenience until I discovered
>that you can scroll down the Services menu by clicking and dragging
>down on the list where it disappears off-screen.
Preferences.app -- press the icon with menu on a tray held by hand.
There, you can disable silly or remotely useful services.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: s580096@idy36.tfh-berlin.de (Olaf Maetzner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: wav/voc -> snd ?
Date: 25 Jan 1995 11:08:25 GMT
Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany)
Message-ID: <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
Is there any utility, that coul convert .wav or/and .voc files,
used by windows, to NeXT snd-files ?
--
Ole
(Olaf Maetzner s580096@tfh-berlin.de +49 30 8926435)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <jlemonD2xn4t.L58@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu> <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 23:12:29 GMT
In article <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>, Hans Stoeger <hans@onevision.de> wrote:
>In article <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>> Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
>> format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
>> fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and
>I'm
>> now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in
>large
>> part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
>> Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
>> only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
>> nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
>The Problem is not Acrobat, that could be done by a Third Party.
>You need MM Fonts to really enjoy PDF viewing. Thats the thing NeXT
>should implement.
I seem to reacall someone (Scott? Perry?) from Adobe mentioning that
NeXT already _has_ the MM technology built into the DPS server, they
just need to hook it up.
--
Jonathan
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What are .LocLibImgPeop.xxxxx files?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 23:47:51 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3g43j7$o1d@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I bought a used slab. I noticed a bunch of files with names
like .LocLibImgPeop.xxxxx, in the directory /private/spool/uucppublic.
So, I'm curious. What are these files? Are they image files?
How would you view one?
--David, who really ought to be doing constuctive work
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.065411.942@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu> <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 06:54:11 GMT
In article <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de writes:
>>In article <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
>>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>>> Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
>>> format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
>>> fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and
>>I'm
>>> now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in
>>large
>>> part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
>>> Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
>>> only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
>>> nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
>>The Problem is not Acrobat, that could be done by a Third Party.
>>You need MM Fonts to really enjoy PDF viewing. Thats the thing NeXT
>>should implement.
Sure; absolutely. The amazing folks that did Tailor can read ASCII
Acrobat files, but they don't do font substitution (and they shouldn't
have to; NeXT should make that easy).
sigh...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wave!roger@svusenet.ubs.ch
Subject: Re: NNTP
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.170516.19341@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
Sender: news@svusenet.ubs.ch
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland (Zuerich)
References: <3g3sd4$rs6@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:05:16 GMT
In article <3g3sd4$rs6@mustang.alleg.edu> tHe daNCeR writes:
> I have a dumb question: What does NNTP stand for and can anyone give me
> any info on what it pertains to? Does it have to do with Network
> servers/clients??
>
> Thanks...
>
> Ricardo
>
> --
>
> Ricardo Cortes (tHe daNCeR)
> Allegheny College
> email: cortesr@alleg.edu
> NeXTMail: cortesr@alleg.edu
--
This stands probably for
N ews
N etwork
T ransport
P rotocol
---
Roger Meyer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wave!roger@svusenet.ubs.ch
Subject: Re: NNTP
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.170523.19392@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
Keywords: nntp
Sender: news@svusenet.ubs.ch
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland (Zuerich)
References: <3g3sd4$rs6@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:05:23 GMT
In article <3g3sd4$rs6@mustang.alleg.edu> tHe daNCeR writes:
> I have a dumb question: What does NNTP stand for and can anyone give me
> any info on what it pertains to? Does it have to do with Network
> servers/clients??
>
> Thanks...
>
> Ricardo
>
> --
>
> Ricardo Cortes (tHe daNCeR)
> Allegheny College
> email: cortesr@alleg.edu
> NeXTMail: cortesr@alleg.edu
--
---
Roger Meyer
Fax +41 57 31 62 58
NeXTmail welcome
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Ack! Too many services!
Date: 25 Jan 1995 00:52:55 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3g47d7$19jk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
hi
ok, now that i've finally installed NS 3.2 and a bunch of new apps
that i couldn't run under 3.0, my services have grown so large that
a bunch of them are off the screen now. I remember a while ago
there was some discussion about this, but I didn't pay a whole
lot of attention to it. Could somebody out there enlighten me
as to what I can do about this? Thanks
Eugene
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: abid@gun.com (Abid Khwaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 19:53:47 GMT
Organization: Gotham Users of NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g3lsb$2ij@giuliani.gun.com>
References: <D2Iyvp.3ur@infoserv.com>
I had elected to receive "Advanced Systems" but never got a single copy!?!
In article <D2Iyvp.3ur@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes:
=> In article <3f3koq$jtc@news.cais.com> bjones@cais2.cais.com (Systemworks)
=> writes:
=> #When NeXTWorld magazine went under I had elected to get a refund instead
=> #of their other wonderful offering of "Advanced Systems" magazine. Well,
=> #that was what, almost a year ago and still no refund. Everytime I have
=> #called the publisher they keep giving me the run-around about that they
=> #are going to be processing refunds and 6 to 8 weeks and blah blah blah ...
=> #
=> #Has anyone heard differently or received a dime from them yet? I'm
=> #really beginning to wonder if I will ever see a refund! Can the publisher
=> #even afford the refunds (i.e. are they going bankrupt?). Please let me
=> #know what you have found.
=>
=> I got my refund about 1 month ago.
=>
=> Kent
=> --
=> /* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
=> /* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
=> /* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: PCNFSD-Intel?
Message-ID: <D2yCJv.GpI@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:21:31 GMT
Has anyone compiled the PCNFSD utility for NS (Intel)? Any info or a
binary would be appreciated. Thank's...Philip
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Subject: Flat-file database needed.
Message-ID: <D2yKFL.4FC@rat.se>
Sender: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Organization: Research & Trade, AB.
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:05:47 GMT
Anyone know about a (preferably public domain or share-ware) flat-file database (or something
simpler like FileMaker on the Macintosh). I need it quite bad.
/erik
--
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Software Developer @ Research & Trade | is a man without fear."
Internet: erik@rat.se <NeXTmail, MIME> |
Tel: +46 8 21 17 50 | - Frank Miller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
In-Reply-To: jlemon@netcom.com's message of Tue, 24 Jan 1995 23:12:29 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.95Jan25122332@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu> <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de>
<jlemonD2xn4t.L58@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 20:23:32 GMT
Jonathan Lemon writes:
Jonathan> I seem to reacall someone (Scott? Perry?) from Adobe mentioning
Jonathan> that NeXT already _has_ the MM technology built into the DPS
Jonathan> server, they just need to hook it up. -- Jonathan
Correct.
The Display PostScript NeXT has is substitution-ready.
The only things missing are: 1) The database of font information 2) the two
Multiple Master fonts (serif and sans serif) used for substitution and 3)
the PostScript code that uses those two things.
Really, me being a NeXTie and all, just _where_ do you think I was testing
that hunk of PostScript when I was writing it ;-) ?
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Sorry, disco _still_ sucks.
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: wav/voc -> snd ?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 10:25:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g7tb0$m3u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
In article <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de> s580096@idy36.tfh-berlin.de
(Olaf Maetzner) writes:
> Is there any utility, that coul convert .wav or/and .voc files,
> used by windows, to NeXT snd-files ?
>
> --
> Ole
> (Olaf Maetzner s580096@tfh-berlin.de +49 30 8926435)
Unter Unix heisst der Konverter sox. Fuer NeXT gibts ein Front-End namens
GISO.app (enthaelt sox). Wenn GISO nicht auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de liegt,
holst Du es am besten von ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
Tschuess
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______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
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/_ _/ _/
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___________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: what is .index.store?
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz>
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:21:22 -0600
Followup-To: poster
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Can someone tell me what creates/maintains .index.store?
-- kc
From: jsum@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Joey Sum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: c-kermit
Date: 25 Jan 1995 16:27:00 -0700
Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3g6mo4$ese@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
References: <D2x6oL.30t@nntpa.cb.att.com>
vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO) writes:
>Would someone please let me know how and where I can get
>c-kermit for use with NS on Intel? Thanks in advance.
You can get the source by ftp to kermit.columbia.edu
Joey
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FInding available printers
Date: 25 Jan 1995 17:31:19 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501252331.AA22084@alleg.EDU>
When I bring up the Print panel, it shows all available printers from
that NeXT. How can I get this same information through a Terminal
shell?? (looking for Printer [name] and PrinterHost)
Many thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: App problems and suffixes file
Date: 24 Jan 95 12:05:15
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <tm8025a.95Jan2412515@newssrv>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
I already posted something to this effect on comp.next.sysadmin but got no replies. Maybe a wider distribution can help.
I am no longer seeing the suffixes file work in the .NeXT directory in my home space. Programs like Opener, Omniweb and OmniImage no longer work with files of a certain suffix. If I have a .gz file double clicking it no longer starts up Opener and uncompresses the file. Same with things like a .html file or .gif.
Certain programs like WordPerfect, that I have used for awhile, do work but not the new ones. I have even added manually certain suffixes lines from an other account to no avail. I know this is local to my account and I have looked in the tools inspector to try and set the default app. I only see Edit and Terminal depending on the execute bit.
Any help would be great. I can still go to open in a lot of the programs but I would like all the functional features I can get.
Torrey McMahon
E-mail would be great but I'll take any help I get.
tm8025a@american.edu
tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Where can I get a 3 meter NeXT monitor(mono) cable ?
Message-ID: <D2zHzu.Ms6@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 23:16:42 GMT
Subject says it all . Any info on this would be appreciated.
Bye,
Ze Tomas
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what is .index.store?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 05:57:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g7dl0$sip@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3g6o1r$np@rosie.next.com>
In article <3g6o1r$np@rosie.next.com> umeshv@next.com (Umesh Vaishampayan (HP)) writes:
>In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz> writes:
>
>> Can someone tell me what creates/maintains .index.store?
>
> Librarian.
And also command "ixbuild". I run "ixbuild" every other day via cron
to keep Librarian indices for my news folders up-to-date.
See man pages for /usr/bin/ix*.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Any NS Proj Mgmt, Metrics & Testing Products Available?
Date: 25 Jan 1995 17:09:58 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3g60l6$2s7@hermes.dna.mci.com>
References: <3g3vbk$ko7@potogold.rmii.com>
In article <3g3vbk$ko7@potogold.rmii.com>,
Garrett L. Rice <garrett@opensource.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have a client who is looking for Project Management tools (revision
>control, multi-user access, etc) for NEXTSTEP. She is also looking for
>testing and metrics tools for her development project. Any suggestions?
>
>--
>Garrett L. Rice
>OpenSource, Inc.
>1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
>800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
>303.861.2393 FAX
>garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Garrett:
Please post your findings to the net.
- Alex -
From: axp26@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashish Pandit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for DBkit Adaptor for interbase
Date: 26 Jan 1995 15:59:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <3g8gti$4v4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hi!
I am looking for DBKit adaptor for interbase. If someone has any
information regarding from where can I get it, could you please email me
at axp26@po.cwru.edu?
Thank you
--
From the desk of Ashish Pandit
PHONE: (216) 397-9725
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Flat-file database needed.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Jan 1995 11:43:19 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3g81sn$cp3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <D2yKFL.4FC@rat.se>
Erik Heimdahl (erik@rat.se) wrote:
: Anyone know about a (preferably public domain or share-ware) flat-file database (or something
: simpler like FileMaker on the Macintosh). I need it quite bad.
Have a look at VarioData 3.1. Demo available on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 12:43:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.EDU>
Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 01:21:37 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3g9hr1$fg6@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com> <3g96s1$d72@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
>In article <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com> btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
>writes:
>> In article <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>,
>> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>> >Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
>> >change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
>> >
>> >thanks
>> >
>> >TjL
>> >--
>> >Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
>> >NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
>> >Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
>> >If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
>>
>> Back in the 3.0 days, I asked this question to the guy at NeXT working
>> on printing. He said there was not. I don't believe anything has
>> changed since then, but perhaps someone else will prove me wrong.
>>
> Well, you could make the change global to all users by opening the
>system Print panel in IB, changing the titles and tags of the popUpList,
>and then saving the changes hoping that a tag or title and not the row
>number is used :-)
Or, you could just either
a) edit the PPD file, or
b) create a custom PPD file that changes the default and includes
the original.
Here is the file that I used to change this on my Epson Stylus:
--------------------------snip------------------------------------
*PPD-Adobe: "4.0"
*DefaultManualFeed: True
*Include: "/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Epson_Stylus_Color.ppd"
--------------------------snip-------------------------------------
This file has been placed in /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/CustomPrinters,
but it could also go into ~/Library/CustomPrinters, in case you don't
want the change to be global.
You also have to tell the NeXT Print Panel what the name of this file
is, using the "ppdname" entry. The system will append the ".ppd"
extension and look for the resulting file in all
potential *Library/PrinterTypes/CustomPrinters/ directories.
For example, the full path name of the above file is:
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/CustomPrinters/epson_stylus.ppd
the corresponding additional printcap entry looks like this:
:ppdname=epson_stylus:
Regards,
Marcel
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 22:14:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g96s1$d72@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com>
In article <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com> btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
writes:
> In article <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>,
> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
> >Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
> >change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >TjL
> >--
> >Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
> >NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
> >Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
> >If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
>
> Back in the 3.0 days, I asked this question to the guy at NeXT working
> on printing. He said there was not. I don't believe anything has
> changed since then, but perhaps someone else will prove me wrong.
>
Well, you could make the change global to all users by opening the
system Print panel in IB, changing the titles and tags of the popUpList,
and then saving the changes hoping that a tag or title and not the row
number is used :-)
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: d94-gof@hemul.nada.kth.se (Gösta Forsum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Xwindows for Next
Date: 26 Jan 1995 16:43:47 GMT
Message-ID: <3g8jg3$qa6@news.kth.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
is there a Xwindows system server for NEXT computers around somewhere ?
if, then please let me know.
/ Gösta Forsum
d94-gof.nada.kth.se
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Search SuperDraw.app
Date: 27 Jan 1995 09:36:20 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gaeqk$kr@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I am searching for a doctored Draw.app, presumably called SuperDraw.app and
distributed free on some CDs. This is a modified Draw.app which can do more
than the simple Draw.app, especially rotation of objects, which is what I am
looking for!
If you could either NeXTmail me a copy (for intel-based NeXTSTEP) or send me
pointers where I could find such a program (or any other PD drawing program
which can do rotations and the rest of the basic drawing operations) I would
be really grateful to you.
Thanks in advance,
Helmut
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Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Caps Lock light on HP
Message-ID: <1995Jan27.074830.4070@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 07:48:30 GMT
Hi,
the Caps-Lock key on my HP keyboard is set to 'Control' and Caps-Lock is
accessible via Command-Shift (as usual). How could I show this Caps-Lock
status by switching the appropriate light on?
Thanks in advance,
Robert.
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From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 23 Jan 1995 19:34:01 GMT
Organization: multiversum media lab gmbh
Message-ID: <3g10b9$pth@multiversum.multiversum.com>
References: <3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In article <3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de
(Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
> Hugues RICHARD (neekibo@precipice.fdn.org) wrote:
> [reading digital audio data on CD300; Gerti Knops' GKPlayer.GTool]
>
> >Just note that this solution doesn't works with every CD-ROM.
> >I think only 6 or 7 are OK (CD-300 is one of these. Thanks Apple, OUPPS,
thanks
> >Sony :-).
>
> I love GTools.app, and I knew about GKPlayer.GTool; however, the README
> states that it's only for Toshiba CDROMs. I verified this on my CD300,
> which works fine as SCSI ID #2 together with NeXT's CDPlayer.app.
> GKPlayer just gives me a 'No free generic SCSI device' error.
I have the same problem with my Toshiba. (Yes, Toshiba)
If I use the program as root it works - looks like another access right
problem.
Atze
From: falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se.u.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for Wood.app
Date: 26 Jan 1995 11:09:29 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology
Message-ID: <3g7vt9$jfg@nyheter.chalmers.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
Some time ago there was an app called Wood for drawing trees.
Now I am unable to find it again.
Does anyone know if it is still around?
Göran Falkman
_____________________________________________________________________
Göran Falkman Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se
Department of Computing Science Tel: + 46 31 772 5412
Chalmers University of Technology Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55
S-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 27 Jan 1995 02:36:22 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3g9m76$jcd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <3g10b9$pth@multiversum.multiversum.com>
Alexander Spohr (Atze) wrote:
>In article <3fgq76$oc3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de
>(Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>> Hugues RICHARD (neekibo@precipice.fdn.org) wrote:
>> [reading digital audio data on CD300; Gerti Knops' GKPlayer.GTool]
>>
>> >Just note that this solution doesn't works with every CD-ROM.
>> >I think only 6 or 7 are OK (CD-300 is one of these. Thanks Apple, OUPPS,
>thanks
>> >Sony :-).
>>
>> I love GTools.app, and I knew about GKPlayer.GTool; however, the README
>> states that it's only for Toshiba CDROMs. I verified this on my CD300,
>> which works fine as SCSI ID #2 together with NeXT's CDPlayer.app.
>> GKPlayer just gives me a 'No free generic SCSI device' error.
>I have the same problem with my Toshiba. (Yes, Toshiba)
>If I use the program as root it works - looks like another access right
>problem.
Not quite: when I use it as root, my CDROM is recognized correctly, but I
still get the error. We really need to bug Gerti. :)
Btw, while we're talking about GTools - any suggestions for small, useful
Modules which a NEXTSTEP newbie can program? I can't think of anything
useful, so email me your suggestions!
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Date: 26 Jan 1995 16:47:48 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g95a4$gb2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu> <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de> <jlemonD2xn4t.L58@netcom.com> <BYER.95Jan25122332@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
>The only things missing are: 1) The database of font information 2) the two
>Multiple Master fonts (serif and sans serif) used for substitution and 3)
>the PostScript code that uses those two things.
>Really, me being a NeXTie and all, just _where_ do you think I was testing
>that hunk of PostScript when I was writing it ;-) ?
Awe, cmon Scott, don't tease us so.... Are you saying there is actually a
chance that we will get MM and Acro? Wohw, did you see that, my toes just
curled with delight :-)
>Sorry, disco _still_ sucks.
My girlfriend always used to like stuff by Barry White done in the disco era...
Who was I to disuade her from it, particularly its effect on her ;-)
Later, John
X
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Getting core-dumps
References: <D2wKq4.J3n@rat.se>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:18:50 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan26.101850.3499@proximus.north.de>
In article <D2wKq4.J3n@rat.se>, Erik Heimdahl <erik@rat.se> wrote:
>
>How do I get a core-dump from an application launched from Workspace ??
>I tried to dwrite Workspace CoreLimit, and create a /cores, but I can t
>find any core-files.
CoreLimit (I didn't know that it exists as a default, though) just
limits the size of coredumps, the directory /cores just insures that all
coredumps go directly there, which is quite important (so everyone
should do that), as otherwise the core is put in the directory where the
application was launched from. (If you have many newbies on a system
it takes a lot of time to find(1) those cores and purge them...)
If you want to GET a core (for example for debugging), you can use
kill(1). If you look at sigvec(2), you'll find the SIGNALs that cause
a coredump. For example SIGQUIT does. So just find out the PID of your
application (ps | grep [your_application_name], the first column shows
the PID) and type
kill -3 [the_process_ID]
Then you'll get your core dumped in /cores.
Gerhard.
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 23:39:03 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3g9bqn$p7d@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu> <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com>
In article <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com>, Bill Tschumy <bill@otherwise.com> wrote:
>In article <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>,
>Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>>Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
>>change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>TjL
>>--
>>Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
>>NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
>>Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
>>If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
>
>Back in the 3.0 days, I asked this question to the guy at NeXT working
>on printing. He said there was not. I don't believe anything has
>changed since then, but perhaps someone else will prove me wrong.
>
>Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
>Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
>bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
>(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
Have you tried munging with the PPD file for printer involved. There
should be some way to set the default in there. It may not be
the easiest thing in the world, as you might need to reboot or fiddle
with PrintManager to get the next to see the changed file. Save an
original copy.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 14:59:24 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com>
References: <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>
In article <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
>change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
>
>thanks
>
>TjL
>--
>Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
>NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
>Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
>If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Back in the 3.0 days, I asked this question to the guy at NeXT working
on printing. He said there was not. I don't believe anything has
changed since then, but perhaps someone else will prove me wrong.
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Wood.app
Date: 27 Jan 1995 19:00:28 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3gbfsc$29f@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3g7vt9$jfg@nyheter.chalmers.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <3g7vt9$jfg@nyheter.chalmers.se>
falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se.u.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Some time ago there was an app called Wood for drawing trees.
> Now I am unable to find it again.
> Does anyone know if it is still around?
On ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
next/Graphics/vector/Wood.0.6.b.NI.tar.gz
next/Graphics/vector/Wood.0.6.s.tar.gz
next/Graphics/vector/Wood.README
Robert.
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University of Munich
Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316
D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Germany
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE, Issue #3
Date: 26 Jan 1995 09:38:33 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3g7qip$csd@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <1995Jan16.035416.1447@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
In article <3fl7ou$a8i@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>,
Jason Baugher <jbaugher@amadeus.glenqcy.glenayre.com> wrote:
>Could someone post info on how to get in touch with NeXT In Line? I'd
>like to subscribe.
You should have absolutely no problem in subscribing. In my case, they
charge my VISA card the correct about. That part was painless. The
only problem was that I have NEVER received an issue. Repeated e-mails
to their subscription department makes me think that they own a small
blackhole.
The mag is quite nice. A bunch of people in my usergroup have received
copies. Good luck!
RWW
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: c-kermit
Message-ID: <D2x6oL.30t@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:17:09 GMT
Would someone please let me know how and where I can get
c-kermit for use with NS on Intel? Thanks in advance.
rao
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: AppleTalk? :)
Date: 27 Jan 1995 01:31:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3g9id3$fcg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again!
Just a quick query this time -- no major damage to report :)
Do any of you have the AppleTalk and AppleShare binaries for black hardware?
I believe that both of these once came standard with earlier versions of NS
(I'm running 3.2), and I would like to be able to link up to the MANY Macs
on the net out where I am.
Thanks in advance for any replies to either here or
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (NeXTMail welcome!) !
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | Any philosophy that can be
4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris
______________________________|_____________________________
Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you
remember.
-- Oscar Levant
____________________________________________________________
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ack! Too many services!
Date: 25 Jan 1995 14:57:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501252056.AA12862@alleg.EDU>
ok, now that i've finally installed NS 3.2 and a bunch
of new apps that i couldn't run under 3.0, my services
have grown so large that a bunch of them are off the
screen now. I remember a while ago there was some
discussion about this, but I didn't pay a whole lot
of attention to it. Could somebody out there enlighten
me as to what I can do about this? Thanks
all I can offer is that you might want to go into Preferences.app and
disable any services you don't use. (look for the module with the
hand holding up a menu)
if you get really desperate, you might want to edit the actual
services part of the app (I have made a menu path 'Services/Apps/'
and changed some apps to offer their services in that submenu, such
as "Apps/Define in Webster" or "Apps/Search in Quotations") but that
gets more complicated. If you get to that point, feel free to email
me and I will try to help as much as I can....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.204646.17309@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1995Jan25.065411.942@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 20:46:46 GMT
In article <1995Jan25.065411.942@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>In article <D2uxzt.13E@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de writes:
>>>In article <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
>>>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>>>> Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
>>>> format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
>>>> fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and
>>>I'm
>>>> now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in
>>>large
>>>> part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
>>>> Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
>>>> only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
>>>> nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
>>>The Problem is not Acrobat, that could be done by a Third Party.
>>>You need MM Fonts to really enjoy PDF viewing. Thats the thing NeXT
>>>should implement.
>
>Sure; absolutely. The amazing folks that did Tailor can read ASCII
>Acrobat files, but they don't do font substitution (and they shouldn't
>have to; NeXT should make that easy).
>
>sigh...
Automatic font substitution, ala SuperATM on the Mac, is not good enough for a
PDF viewer. That is not to say that it wouldn't be a useful feature, but in the
context of this discussion it's not exactly what you want. You need a
substitution API that can be used by apps like PDF viewers that need to supply
font information to the substitution process. Automatic substitution based on a
font database would handle the majority of applications quite well. By exposing
some of the support required to perform automatic font substitution, you could
enable application specific font substitution.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mail Question
Date: 24 Jan 1995 22:50:56 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3g408g$5tl@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
I am running NS 3.2 (white) and am using Mail Release 3.2 (vers 100).
Any mail that I send must first go through a single user gateway on
our campus. I would like to know if anyone knows what happens when
the gateway is busy, such that I do not get logged into the gateway
on the first attempt to send mail. I have been told that the mail
then waits for some period of time before trying to log back into the
gateway (I was told that it is typically 3 hours before my system
tries to log into the gateway). I would like to change this waiting
period (try sending the mail every five minutes or so). It is not
uncommon for me to have intercampus messages take eight to ten hours
to arrive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Darryl
darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PORTRAIT MODE DISPLAY: postscipt hack or device driver?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 15:29:05 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3g42g1$h0@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
My eyes are not as good as they used to be, and almost *all* the applications
I use would be presented better on a portrait mode screen. A portrait mode
screen would allow for full size display of a standard letter sized document
on a 15" screen. Also, the dock would be bigger.
To this end I've spent a good deal of time unsuccessfully. It seems hinted
that this kind of thing could be done by making some change to the PostScript
driver. But the system graphics overview given in the developer docs
does not seem sufficient to me (I'm new to the NeXT system). I guess I'm
looking for a thorough overview of the interplay between the WindowServer,
Display PostScript, the DisplayDevice and probably also WM.
( there sure are alot of under-documented files in /usr/lib/NextStep )
I'm hopeing that some kind and knowlegdable soul could point me in the
right direction by providing a broad outline of a reasonable solution.
Also, any suggestions for methods to change the standard 2-bit colors would
be welcome to these tired eyes.
I hope I haven't embaressed myself with these questions, but aren't these
the kind of things that display postscript is supposed to make easy? A
display system that locks the user into the landscape mode, and a predefined
colorspace does not seem very flexible to me.
...on the slippery slope of the learning curve...
jCandlish
.
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ack! Too many services!
Date: 25 Jan 1995 18:29:37 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g65ah$43m@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz
steven cortelou) writes:
> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes:
>
> >hi
>
> >ok, now that i've finally installed NS 3.2 and a bunch of new apps
> >that i couldn't run under 3.0, my services have grown so large that
> >a bunch of them are off the screen now. I remember a while ago
> >there was some discussion about this, but I didn't pay a whole
> >lot of attention to it. Could somebody out there enlighten me
> >as to what I can do about this? Thanks
>
> I, too suffered from this surfeit of convenience until I discovered
> that you can scroll down the Services menu by clicking and dragging
> down on the list where it disappears off-screen.
If, instead, you wish to remove a lot of the services from the
Services menu, use Preferences.app to disable the unwanted ones.
I highly recommend that people become familiar with what
Preferences.app will do for you, and check the preferences
for your particular app before you post with a question.
(And also check to see if there's NeXThelp available.)
There seems to be a lot of questions being posted to the
net recently which simply had to do with the preference
settings for the app in question. (I, too, have been
guilty of not looking at preference settings, especially
with new versions of apps.)
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Qualifier Peer Master/Peerin EOF...
Date: 25 Jan 1995 17:12:43 GMT
Organization: MCI Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g60qb$2u1@hermes.dna.mci.com>
I'm still having trouble getting qualified peer (as in Master/Detail for the
rest of the world) fetches to work.
Using the DEPARMENT and EMPLOYEE tables from NEXT I've setup two NXTableViews
and generally hooked everything together in IB just like you'd expect. The
initial fetch in MyController.m's AppDidInit works fine.
I have a little text field/button GUI-thingie that is supposed to allow you
to discriminate against employees by salary. :-)
Here's the code that happens when you push the button:
- doSalaryQualify: sender
{
float theSalary;
id mySalaryQualifier;
EODatabaseDataSource *myEODatabaseDataSource;
id myTableEntity;
// note - NEXT call this a master-peer relationship
myEODatabaseDataSource = [myPeerEOController dataSource];
// get our entity
myTableEntity = [myEODatabaseDataSource entity];
// theSalaryTextField is on the screen for user input
theSalary = [theSalaryTextField floatValue];
// build a qualifier using our Entity
// logic: if (salary = 0) then
// get an unrestrited qualifier
// else
// get a restricted qualifier with input text
if (theSalary == 0)
mySalaryQualifier = [myTableEntity qualifier];
else
mySalaryQualifier = [[EOQualifier alloc]
initWithEntity: myTableEntity
qualifierFormat: @"%A > %f", @"SALARY",
theSalary];
// see the documentation for EOQualifier the
// for format string rules
// now set the qualifier for the detail's
// EODatabaseDataSource
[myEODatabaseDataSource
setAuxiliaryQualifier: mySalaryQualifier];
// we've changed the qualifier in the peer controller's data
// source so we refetch from the peer controller
[myPeerEOController fetch];
return self;
}
This doesn't work and I can't figure out why. (For those of you who have RT
the FM, this is from page 6 of chapter 12 in the EOF documentation.)
More data: if I change the code a bit to sort by department in the master
controller the above code works fine!
When I go to set the qualifier I get the following error code:
Unknown error code 100003 in NXReportError
Help!
--
Cliff Elam
celam@radiomail.net (text only) <<-- always works
celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) <<-- only when I'm in the office (rare!)
Airedales and polar bears!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Ack! Too many services!
Message-ID: <davisreD2zDxH.AEA@netcom.com>
Organization: independent
References: <3g47d7$19jk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3g4j1a$kgl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 21:48:53 GMT
weintz steven cortelou <indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>I, too suffered from this surfeit of convenience until I discovered
>that you can scroll down the Services menu by clicking and dragging
>down on the list where it disappears off-screen.
>
You can also disable services that you don't use with prefereneces and
they'll be removed from the menu.
Rob
--
Robert Davis (davisre@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: bisselt@ln1d274nwk.il.us.swissbank.com (Tim Bissell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone got a refund from NeXTWorld Mag?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 18:54:28 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation
Message-ID: <BISSELT.95Jan26185429@ln1d274nwk.il.us.swissbank.com>
References: <3fskl6$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3g0648$ks@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
To: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
In-reply-to: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk's message of 23 Jan 1995 12:06:32 GMT
<djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk> writes:
>In article <3fskl6$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch) writes:
>I got a cheque for $9.60 - which cost me $8 to cash =:-0
>I gather we ex-subscribers were going to be sent copies of a new magazine -
>called NextInLine or somesuch. As yet, I have received nothing - I guess they
>can't afford the transatlantic postage!
In the last week I received my substitute mag; nothing as useful as
NeXT In Line -- it's called Advanced Systems Today or some such... no
idea how many issues I'll be getting. No NeXT info whatsoever in it.
Tim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: PCNFSD(2cond try)-Help!
Message-ID: <D30x1u.Hyy@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:39:30 GMT
Since I received only one reply from my original posting I suspect that
our newsreader is acting up ( I didn't even see the posting).
Problem: NS3.3/Intel PC connected via ethernet to a Windows' PC running
Chameleon NFS. I want to be able to print in Windows to a printer
called "Dad" attached to the NeXT PC via its parallel port. The
printer is a Postscript HP4MP. I also want to export various
directories and have Windows see them as letters! For example, I
should like to export my home " /seadrive/philip" .
So Far: By luck I have managed to telnet into the NeXT and ftp to it. But
I can't print. When I try to browse for a printer it complains I
am not running PCNFSD. I am told that this is replaced by rc.* on
the NeXT. I also can't assign letters to the exported directories
for the same reason. Finally, I can import a PC Windows' directory
onto the NeXT and it is mounted under /Net/compaq, and I can ls
the drive and see it, save to it, etc...But I can't see it in the
Browser! When I click on /Net/compaq it won't open, even though
the directory /Net/compaq/c is there!
Assigning the IP address of the NeXT and the printer name to LPT1 does
not work. I get a psvf not running on the NeXT error when I try to print.
I can save the output to a file, ftp it to the NeXT, telnet into the NeXT
and lpr it to the printer, but it would be nice to have this automated.
Somehow PCNFSD is involved and my knowledge of NetInfo is hopeless. Could
someone please mail me idiot proof instructions on how to do this? I don't
want to have to buy another printer! When I say idiot proof, I mean it:)
Thank's...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Date: 27 Jan 1995 14:19:32 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501272019.AA16648@alleg.EDU>
I whipped together a simple EggTimer.app
as suggested.
It has one panel in which you set the following:
1) The message (A short sentence)
2) Time to remind (type it in or scroll) in minutes.
3) Use Sound Alert (or not).
It is compiled only for blackk hardware only.
The panel shows up in x minutes and plays a timer
sound (if set). You can then, either set another
delay or set delay to 0 for no-reminder.
If you can get NeXTMail, let
me know and I'll send it to you.
[[ I tried to email <wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu> twice and it bounced
back to me. ]]
I'd like to recieve the app. It would probably be easier if it were
on an FTP site (but yes I can receive NeXTMail)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Print Panel -- default to MANUAL feed rather than Cassette?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 06:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of Ottawa
Message-ID: <3ga2fa$13k@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA>
References: <3g9bqn$p7d@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Jerry Weiss (jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <3g92fc$pis@lia.bga.com>, Bill Tschumy <bill@otherwise.com> wrote:
: >In article <9501261843.AA25502@alleg.edu>,
: >Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
: >>Is there a way for a user to change his/her Printing defaults to
: >>change the print panel from Cassette feed paper to manual feed paper?
: >>
..stuff deleted..
: Have you tried munging with the PPD file for printer involved. There
: should be some way to set the default in there. It may not be
: the easiest thing in the world, as you might need to reboot or fiddle
: with PrintManager to get the next to see the changed file. Save an
: original copy.
For example, I found this in one of my .ppd files:
*OpenUI *ManualFeed: PickOne
*OrderDependency: 20 AnySetup *ManualFeed
*DefaultManualFeed: False
*ManualFeed True: "statusdict /manualfeed true put"
*ManualFeed False: "statusdict /manualfeed false put"
*?ManualFeed: "save
statusdict /manualfeed get
{(True)}{(False)}ifelse = flush
restore
"
*End
*CloseUI: *ManualFeed
Looks like plenty of room for mucking here...
-Peter
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: need help backing up to ext. SCSI drive
Date: 25 Jan 1995 19:45:58 -0500
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3g6rc6$sfr@explorer.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
I recently got a tannenburg 250 meg SCSI tape drive. Problem is, I can
make it work. The demo version of enTar can make it work, but after the
purchase of the drive and the tapes, my computer budget is blown for a
while. I would like to use the UNIX utilities to do this job, but I
haven't been able to figure it out. All I want to do is make a copy of
Bmy whole filesystem and D[Dput it on the tape.
If anyone has a quick way of doing this, I'd be most appreciative. BTW,
I have gnutar, as well. Thanks very much. Peace,
James
From: ucc40@Rosie.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NextStep books
Date: 27 Jan 1995 18:15:51 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <3gbd8n$mep@masala.cc.uh.edu>
I am looking for NextStep Object Oriented Programming book. If anyone
has one for sale for 3.0, please contact me at (713) 274-4575 and ask
for Robert. Thanks in advance
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Report: SoftPC 4.0 for Black and HP, 2 wk survey finished.
Date: 27 Jan 1995 20:19:55 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3gbkhb$2ds@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC
All,
I finished the survey last weekend. I got 92 requests for a
version of SoftPC 4.0 for HP PA and Black. I sent the info to Insignia
and NeXT. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks for the replies.
Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Message-ID: <1995Jan27.135918.860@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 27 Jan 95 13:59:18 WET
References: <D2vvw1.KtG@news.cis.umn.edu>
parrt@arc.umn.edu (Terence Parr) wrote:
>Howdy folks,
>I'm looking for advice as to which news reader is best on
>NeXTStep. I'm grabbing NewsBase and NewsGrazer. What are the
>latest versions and which is best?
>Thanks in advance and please email me as I'm not frequently "here".
>Terence
>parrt@lonewolf.parr-research.com (NeXT Mail ok!)
I'm using Alexandra 0.7 which, although it's still pretty crap, I
prefer to NewsGrazer. Infact, we got a copy of NewsGrazer but it
crashed after a minute of so.
--
Mike Davis.
miked@ittpub.nl
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NSFIP (pre) install questions
Date: 28 Jan 1995 01:28:00 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gc6j0$qvj@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <95Jan19.083724@EE.Stanford.EDU> <gj-2101951115300001@gj.irock.com>
In article <gj-2101951115300001@gj.irock.com>, gj@irock.com ("G. J.") writes:
|> In article <95Jan19.083724@EE.Stanford.EDU>, park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang
|> Ju Park) wrote:
[munch]
|> > I have questions about installing NSFIP.
|> > 1) Can I install it on a DOS logical Drive ? To be
|> > more specific, I have a hard disk that has primary
|> > partitions and a extended partition. I use some of
|> > the extended partition for DOS use and reserved some
|> > free space inside the extendded partition for NS.
|> > Can I use it for NS installation ? Or should I designate
|> > the whole extended partition for NEXTSTEP ?
You will need to become more familiar with the basic concepts regarding partitioning of disks. You can start by reading the MS-DOS help on the "fdisk" utility, but take care to ignore and completely forget everything you ever saw about "DOS Logical Drives" They are EVIL.
Things to keep in mind:
1.) MS-DOS is neither bright, nor hospitable. In other words, DOS does not play well with others. It can only boot from the first partition on the first drive. DOS sometimes initializes non-related partitions on non-related drives when installing (so make a backup of your other partitions before installing DOS).
Aside: The "smartest" one, by this measure must be OS/2, which is capable of doing exactly the distasteful feat that is described above by San Ju Park: Booting from an "extended" dos partition... yee-uhu-uhuhu-eeek! It gives me the willies to even think about it. Never even _think_ about doing this, even thought you can, with OS/2. Like "doublespace," thinking about this too long can damage your file systems and destroy valuable data.
2.) If you have both IDE and SCSI drives in a machine, the system BIOS almost always forces you to boot from the first IDE device that is found. Any real partition on the first device can be made bootable. An MS-DOS "Extended Logical Partition" is not a real partition, it is a kludge from the evil empire (man fdisk under NeXTSTEP 3.2)
3.) You can use the DOS "fdisk" utility to partition the first DOS partition. However, you should use the NeXTSTEP fdisk, or the OS/2 fdisk, for all other partitions. Either one works fine.
|> > 3) Does anybody know if I could use OS/2's bootmanager
|> > to boot NEXTSTEP after installing NS ? If, yes,
|> > would you let me know how I can do this ?
Yes, I've done it. (However, I recommend that you use the NeXTSTEP boot manager, which takes up 1MB less space on your disk, and works more elegantly with all Operating Systems.)
If you must however, the OS/2 boot manager also works for Linux. However, NeXTSTEP (stubbornly?) installs a boot manager of it's own, which works in a different way than the OS/2 boot manager. The effect is unsettling, but it does work. What happens, is that the OS/2 boot manager loads the NeXTSTEP boot manager. From here you can select NeXTSTEP, or any of the other bootable systems.
It's a bit like one of those Star Trek episodes where there are two copies of the same {whatever_it_is} and you have to pick one to get back to "your" universe...)
Someone needs to write a nice boot management utility which knows about the various boot management strategies and replaces them all with a coherent, unified boot manager. This is not a "one banana" task.
|> Not only can you not do what you stated above, but you should
|> really consider dedicating a seperate SCSI drive to NSFIP.
|> Make sure that drive is the only one in your machine when
|> you install NSFIP. I run 5 OS on my P90.
|>
|> 1. MSDOS 6.22
|> 2. OS/2 Warp 3.0
|> 3. Linux
|> 4. Win/NT 3.5
|> 5. NSFIP 3.3
|>
|> The safest this is to use boot loading floppies for Unix and
|> andvance OS on a multiple OS config system.
I don't agree. I've had various combinations of these operating systems, and Solaris for Intel, (up to 4 on a machine) running on several different types of machines. I've never had to configure UNIX to boot from a floppy, as a standard configuration. (Of course, one must boot from floppy to install, and this applies to OS/2 and NT as well.)
|> Warp's Boot Manager is good for Warp and MSDOS only.
Although it behaves oddly, it does behave predictably, and can be used with other Operating Systems.
From: bob@newton.uucp ("Robert L. Masterson")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Any NS Proj Mgmt, Metrics & Testing Products Available?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 18:58:34 GMT
Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
Sender: rlm@sss.com (Robert L. Masterson)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gbfoq$1rb@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <3g3vbk$ko7@potogold.rmii.com>
Summary: SS&S CASE Tools, CodeReviewer and DRCS, perform these functions
Keywords: CASE, SS&S, metrics, multi-user, revisions, testing, development
In article <3g3vbk$ko7@potogold.rmii.com> Garrett L. Rice writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have a client who is looking for Project Management tools (revision
>control, multi-user access, etc) for NEXTSTEP. She is also looking for
>testing and metrics tools for her development project. Any suggestions?
>
>--
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>OpenSource, Inc.
>1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
>800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
>303.861.2393 FAX
>garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
The SS&S CASE Tools software line includes the CodeReviewer software analysis
and software quality maintenance tool and DRCS, the graphical revision
management system for NEXTSTEP and Unix. CodeReviewer computes, graphs, and
compares formal software metrics on source code, including Objective C, C++,
C, and mixed code. DRCS provides a full graphical revision management system
for all of the resources used in NEXTSTEP development, including nib files,
binary files, and arbitrarily complex directory structures. Both products
are provided under a floating license server, and they run under NEXTSTEP on
HP PA-RISC, Intel, and NeXT systems, and will soon run on NEXTSTEP SPARC,
as well.
To request technical and marketing information on SS&S CASE Tools, SS&S
ObjectWare, or any of our award-winning services or products please send
email to CASE_Tools@sss.com, call (203) 630-2000 option 4, or fax to (203)
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phone: (203) 630-2000 x780
fax: (203) 630-2020
From: rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Installing MouseX
Date: 28 Jan 1995 01:13:24 GMT
Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins
Message-ID: <3gc5nk$cke@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
Hi there.
Concerning MouseX. I set up Xfe and click on
resume and get the following error msgs to console. The screen changes
to an X screen for a moment and then is back to nextstep.
XNextPaste: No such file or directory
failed to set default font path '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed' giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
wait returned: pid = 218
kill: No such process
Thanks in advance for the help.
Rich
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com
Subject: New Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Driver for NeXTSTEP 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Jan26.183930.11798@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:39:30 GMT
Here are some ratings with the new v3.31 Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Driver.
This new driver can be obtained from NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM. It is titled:
[document #1829, 1829_Intel824X0.pkg.compressed].
Use a fixed (non-proportional) font to view the following tables.
The following benchmarks are from NWBench.app:
Metric P90 + PCI NSTC P90 - PCI P90 * PCI
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dhrystones: 125,000 36,101 125,011 126,050
VAX MIPS: 79.365082 22.92127 79.41756 80.031746
Graphics: D-V: 36.608 sec 11.088 sec 7.403 sec 7.102 sec
V-V: 20.576 sec 10.640 sec 32.561 sec 32.384 sec
Ethernet KB/sec: 800.358611 682.391914 800.231175 800.08034
Disk read KB/sec: 3020.986078 1535.592662 3014.074618 3025.3243
Webster, sec: 26.597878 52.427361 26.841605 25.183341
Compile, sec: 44.196575 76.840164 43.774109 33.717695
NWBench Benchmarks
P90+Pci = Pentium 90MHz with ORIGINAL Intel 824X0 PCI driver
NSCT = NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB
P90-Pci = Pentium 90MHz without Intel 824X0 PCI driver
P90*Pci = Pentium 90MHz with NEW V3.31 Intel 824X0 PCI driver
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following benchmarks are from NXBench.app:
line arc/bez fill xform cmpsite userpth text window
+Pci 0.52706 0.50607 0.55308 2.62878 0.48922 1.82525 0.60322 0.21840
NSCT 0.75138 0.74834 0.56370 1.11416 0.57043 1.20111 0.45455 0.36424
-Pci 1.25624 1.25117 1.03260 3.06672 1.01477 2.71958 0.96824 0.57548
*Pci 1.23327 1.21922 1.01051 2.98885 0.99196 2.65980 0.94496 0.56556
NXBench V2.0 Benchmarks
+Pci = Pentium 90MHz with ORIGINAL Intel 824X0 PCI driver
NSCT = NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB
-Pci = Pentium 90MHz without Intel 824X0 PCI driver
*Pci = Pentium 90MHz with NEW V3.31 Intel 824X0 PCI driver, NXFactor 1.452
Summary
-------
It would appear that V3.31 of the Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Adapter
fixes earlier problems. It is approximately as fast as running without
a PCI driver at all.
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
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From: msodhi@umich.edu (Mohan Sodhi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Canon ObjectStations: Acad. Price? Experience?
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 17:33:29
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <msodhi.19.00118F63@umich.edu>
Summary: Does anyone have experience with Canon's object stations?
Keywords: canon, academic price, experience with using system
I am trying to decide if I should make the plunge into the world of NeXT, and
if so, what type of computer I should buy? Your answers to the following
questions will help:
1) Have you tried Canon's objectstations?
2) What is their academic price? (I saw a post sometime ago about a company
handling Canon's academically priced stations, but do not remember the name.)
3) What do you think about their price w.r.t. purchasing some other 486/100 or
Pentium, and doing the installation yourself? (I have a Gateway 486/66
currently with 1 M video RAM, 16M RAM, IDE CDROM, IDE harddisk (no SCSI): will
NeXTStep 3.3 install and run on this machine?)
Please reply to me directly; I will post a summary.
Thanks very much.
Mohan Sodhi
--------------------------------
Mohan Sodhi <msodhi@umich.edu>
The University of Michigan
School of Business Administration.
From: umeshv@next.com (Umesh Vaishampayan (HP))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what is .index.store?
Date: 25 Jan 1995 23:49:21 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g6o21$nq@rosie.next.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz> writes:
>
> Can someone tell me what creates/maintains .index.store?
>
> -- kc
Librarian.
--Umesh
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| Home: (415)-369-0134
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 28 Jan 95 18:28:27 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.791317707@coricopat>
References: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3g11c6$27q@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
>In article <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
>peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:
>> I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
>> my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
>> if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
[munch]
> I ended up using my 3.2 boot floppy which worked fine. I think all
>that's needed for old hardward is some sort of CD-ROM support which
>probably doesn't change from release to release.
Yuck.. makes backing up that disk even more urgent. I tried this
using various approaches, but never succeeded. Does anybody here
know how to make a backup copy of the bootdisk?
Chris
--
"I ride tandem with a random.."
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Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
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From: umeshv@next.com (Umesh Vaishampayan (HP))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what is .index.store?
Date: 25 Jan 1995 23:49:15 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g6o1r$np@rosie.next.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950125101945.9811B-100000@lipschitz> writes:
>
> Can someone tell me what creates/maintains .index.store?
>
> -- kc
Librarian.
--Umesh
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Microtek scanner
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
Message-ID: <D34p84.DFy@musical.fdn.org>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 18:40:51 GMT
Does anyone knows something about SCSI Microtek scanner (originally
for Mac) on NeXT black hardware, for now ScanMaker.app can't find the SCSI
Microtek device, I have heard something about jumper to put/change on the
SCSI card, I need some help !
Thanks in advance.
Sam
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From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: New Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Driver for NeXTSTEP 3.3
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 28 Jan 1995 19:41:03 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <3ge6kf$fta@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <1995Jan26.183930.11798@Radical.Com>
Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com wrote:
: Here are some ratings with the new v3.31 Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Driver.
: Compile, sec: 44.196575 76.840164 43.774109 33.717695
^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^
Are you sure that last column was a 33 and not a 43?
If so that's an interesting improvment, maybe for random disk I/O's the
new bus driver makes things faster?
Q: did your original machine have the Intel chipset bug?
Q2: What SCSI card?
cheers
Matt
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-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
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-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Installing MouseX
Date: 28 Jan 1995 19:52:30 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3ge79u$2s8c@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3gc5nk$cke@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
Richard D. Warner (rich@tongue1) wrote:
: Hi there.
: Concerning MouseX. I set up Xfe and click on
: resume and get the following error msgs to console. The screen changes
: to an X screen for a moment and then is back to nextstep.
: XNextPaste: No such file or directory
: failed to set default font path '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
: ,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/'
: Fatal server error:
: could not open default font 'fixed' giving up.
: xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server
: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
: wait returned: pid = 218
: kill: No such process
: Thanks in advance for the help.
: Rich
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Hi again -
Boy, I've tried a couple dozen different things and still no go.
I'm running NS3.3. I loaded the X11R4 stuff from a Big Green CD then I
untarred X11R5 and put Xfe and Xnext.color in /LocalApps. I reset the
perms on /dev/vid0 to be 666. Then, in Xfe I chose alternate and gave
the path of Xnext.color. All I get is a blank grey-blue screen with a
row of 8 miniature xterm windows along the top. Each window is a little
over an inch square. They are all identical except for background color,
and each has a miniature menu and what I do in one window is mirrored in
the others. What happened to the days where you just installed it and
it went? I've spent more hours trying to get NeXT stuff to work recently...
Is there a step I'm missing?
Rich
P.S. Send replies to warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 29 Jan 1995 10:30:16 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3gfqno$b9o@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3g11c6$27q@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <neuss.791317707@coricopat>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes:
>Yuck.. makes backing up that disk even more urgent. I tried this
>using various approaches, but never succeeded. Does anybody here
>know how to make a backup copy of the bootdisk?
I made a copy that works under DOS once using 'diskcopy'.
Under NS dd on the raw device should work, but I have not tried that.
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From: naj@fraxinus (M. `Naj' Najarian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Date: 28 Jan 1995 23:26:47 GMT
Organization: You Tools / FASTNET(tm) Corporation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3gejrn$e9m@ns.fast.net>
References: <1995Jan27.135918.860@ittpub>
In article <1995Jan27.135918.860@ittpub> wrote in response to
parrt@arc.umn.edu's query about NewsBase v. NewsGrazer.
> I'm using Alexandra 0.7 which, although it's still pretty crap, I
> prefer to NewsGrazer. Infact, we got a copy of NewsGrazer but it
> crashed after a minute of so.
Oh, I know I'm pinning a "kick me" sign on myself to say this, but I
really like Newsgrazer. NewsBase involves to much clicking back and forth
between windows. First choose article, then click on the reader. Hear that
hard disk chug!
Yes, yes, NewGrazer (lessee, Release 3.0 v 75, running on NS3.1 black)
wanted to crash, but once I set up the ~/Library/NewsGrazer/NewsFolders
directory, it's not crashed since (admittedly, that's been only a week).
Have not tried Alexandria.
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From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: wav/voc -> snd ?
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 22:47:59 GMT
References: <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>,
Olaf Maetzner <s580096@idy36.tfh-berlin.de> wrote:
>Is there any utility, that coul convert .wav or/and .voc files,
>used by windows, to NeXT snd-files ?
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.2.NI.b.tar.gz
(URL broken for readability)
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http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Installing MouseX
Date: 29 Jan 1995 19:24:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3ggq1v$1k7d@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi -
Anyone have a contact person for mouseX? Haven't seen anything
in documentation.
Rich
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 29 Jan 1995 18:06:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gglfe$2ik@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <neuss.791317707@coricopat>
In article <neuss.791317707@coricopat> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
writes:
> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
>
> >In article <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
> >peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:
> >> I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
> >> my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
> >> if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
>
> [munch]
> > I ended up using my 3.2 boot floppy which worked fine. I think all
> >that's needed for old hardward is some sort of CD-ROM support which
> >probably doesn't change from release to release.
>
> Yuck.. makes backing up that disk even more urgent. I tried this
> using various approaches, but never succeeded. Does anybody here
> know how to make a backup copy of the bootdisk?
>
As someone from NeXT pointed out in this forum, the boot floppy
included with black NS 3.3 contains nothing more than a boot block which
isn't part of the file system and therefore isn't visible using UNIX
filesystem utilities or the File Viewer. So the floppy is apparently fine
for its intended use. NeXT should probably put some bogus files on future
boot floppies just to calm us paranoid types :-)
The UNIX dd command should make a bit-for-bit copy of everything on
the boot floppy including the boot block should you wish to make a backup.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Message-ID: <1995Jan29.185441.27611@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3gejrn$e9m@ns.fast.net>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 18:54:41 GMT
In article <3gejrn$e9m@ns.fast.net> naj@fraxinus (M. `Naj' Najarian) writes:
>In article <1995Jan27.135918.860@ittpub> wrote in response to
>parrt@arc.umn.edu's query about NewsBase v. NewsGrazer.
>
>> I'm using Alexandra 0.7 which, although it's still pretty crap, I
>> prefer to NewsGrazer. Infact, we got a copy of NewsGrazer but it
>> crashed after a minute of so.
>
>Oh, I know I'm pinning a "kick me" sign on myself to say this, but I
>really like Newsgrazer. NewsBase involves to much clicking back and forth
>between windows. First choose article, then click on the reader. Hear that
>hard disk chug!
>
>Yes, yes, NewGrazer (lessee, Release 3.0 v 75, running on NS3.1 black)
>wanted to crash, but once I set up the ~/Library/NewsGrazer/NewsFolders
>directory, it's not crashed since (admittedly, that's been only a week).
>
>Have not tried Alexandria.
I think that Alexandra.app shows a great deal of promise. It is usable over a
modem line whereas NewsGrazer is intolerable. It is currently version 0.7 and I
have hope that it will mature into quite a nice tool over time.
Joe Pasqua
From: mgilula@localhost (Marshall F. Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: 29 Jan 1995 19:52:55 GMT
Message-ID: <3ggrmn$uhm@tequesta.gate.net>
References: <3g0u0i$hua@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Peter Karbaliotis (peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: I noticed not long ago that the boot floppy that came with
: my 3.3 upgrade doesn't have anything on it! I'm wondering
: if this is the case for anyone else with black hardware.
: It seems odd since older NeXT hardware needs a boot floppy in
: order to boot from the CD.
: --
: Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail & MIME ok
NeXT was very courteous to me when I notified them
that my boot floppy was hosed. They sent me out a
second one, which was also hosed...i.e. each fd had
only a .dir.tiff on the disk and nothing else. Folks at the company
were eq ually courteous when I explained about the second flawed
floppy and actually spent money on a phone call to me in followup to
my email.
-73-
Marshall Glula
--
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mgilula@gate.net el que busca nada mucho encuentra"
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Date: 29 Jan 1995 22:14:51 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3gh40r$k34@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <1995Jan29.185441.27611@adobe.com>
Alexandria.app at least has promise. NewsGrazer apparently is completely
abandoned. (Jayson seems to have dropped NG Pro development; pity I would
have bought it. With Fiend being as good as or better than Engage!, it
looks like as if Jayson is effectively out of the NeXTStep general
software business.).
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: PPP NS => NS Working! (But "ping" problem)
Message-ID: <D36zoK.15u@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 00:21:56 GMT
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 95 17:31:34 GMT-0500
From: damonc (To: hookup!perkins%cps.msu.edu)
To: hookup!perkins%cps.msu.edu
I got PPP NS=>NS over modem WORKING! The problem was lurking in my
/etc/gettytab file on the receiving (answering) machine:
# NXFax dialup on port B
NXFaxB:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#38400:
and the line speed requested in the "ppp.remote" script was 57600. I
don't understand why NXFax entered "38400" in the gettytab of the one
machine and "57600" in the gettytab of the sending (calling) machine, but
I'm just sorry I didn't discover this earlier...I was beginning to digress
into the investigation of tty innards. Both machines have dual 16550 FIFO
UART's.
Replacing the "38400" in /etc/gettytab and "ppp.remote" with "57600"
results in the machine answering the phone, but no "login:" is visible.
Leaving gettytab alone at "38400" and setting the requested speed in
"ppp.remote" to "38400" allows the calling machine (talking to it's serial
port at 57600) to negotiate with the answring pppd daemon.
Whew!
Unfortunately, I have moved from one problem to the next...after the
pppd's complete negotiation and the defaultroute is in place at both ends,
I can only ping (using IP address) the answering machine.
No other machine on the network of the answering machine can be pinged.
I realize that name resolution relies on being able to get to the
resolving machine by IP address (in /etc/resolv.conf) so I need to be able
to ping the name resolver machine before resolution works.
Has anybody had this problem and beat it (or just have a suggestion)?
The "calling" machine has no network card, just a modem; the "answering"
machine has modem and is connected to a network.
Mucho appreciated.
---
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
--
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damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Kernel Panics with 3.2 + Parallel Port 1.1 + PPP?
Message-ID: <D36zsq.16L@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 00:24:26 GMT
I have been experiencing kernel panics on NS (Intel) 3.2 when using
PPP 2.2.0.1.8 (patch level 2 and below) and the Parallel Port 1.1 driver
from Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at>...
Happens whether or not the PPP link is up (driver just has to be
loaded)...
I can print about 1-2 pages (aproximately 1/3 of a 141K data file (PCL
printer codes) before I get a
==========================================
"Kernal Trap"
Failed instruction exception (2,d,150000)
Waiting for remote debugger connection.
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
==========================================
If I remove the PPP driver, the kernel traps _almost_ disappear altogether
(once every 10-20 LARGE print jobs).
Anybody else experienced this? Is there a workaround? (The drivers from
NeXT don't work at ALL...)
Thanks in advance,
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
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damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Mario.Koehler@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Mario Koehler)
Subject: HP Deskjet Printer with NS?
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 15:30:10 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan30.153010.3781@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Sender: news@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
hey...
is there a way to use a HP Deskjet printer with nextstep? i know that usually
only postscript devices can be used, but maybe there is some kinda cool hack :)
ciao mario
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: TWO Q's : Configure.app freaking, dwrite for 8 bit color?
Message-ID: <schwettD371Lp.9Br@netcom.com>
Keywords: dwrite configure 3.3
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 01:03:25 GMT
Now that 3.3 is running for me, reasonably well (well.. sort of...) the
little things are bugging me.
To combat the pitiful performance of 16 bit windows in a 32 bit mode, I
was using the color depth dwrite. It works just fine for 2 bit grey,
8 bit gray, and sometimes 32 bit gray. However, eightbitrgb does not
do anything.
Is the a new syntax for "dwrite appname NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitRGB"?
Secondly, (and more seriously, I think) configure.app has done some very
strange things. It crashes very frequently. Quite often it shows up
with no devices listed in the SCSI or Network section. Upon boot, I don't
see the 824X0 driver (the new one) getting loaded.
I thought my installation was a bit messed up, so I reinstalled last night
and got essentially the same results. In fact, Configure.app crashed on the
INITIAL configuration while still in 640x480... Of course it just
restarted.
I have looked at the Instance0.table and Default.table, and everything
appears just fine.
Upon boot, I get (frequently, but not always) a "string parse error"
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Mark Schwettmann
--
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"
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"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jamd@linex.com (J Davis)
Subject: SunSparc 1 vs. Next
Message-ID: <D376p4.3K4@nbn.com>
Sender: news@nbn.com
Organization: North Bay Network's news posting service - not responsible for content
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 02:53:28 GMT
I am planning on setting up a permanent internet site and need
to find a relatively cheap server. I was wondering if anyone could tell
me the relative benefits/drawbacks of a SunSparc 1, a 486/66 running
either Linux or NetBSD, or a Next 68040/25. I'm hoping I could run on
about 16MB with a 500MB drive (at least to start). Budget is limited
(around 2k max) so I'f like any feedback anyone could give me on this. I
thank you for any help you could give.
jamie (jamd@linex.com)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: App problems and suffixes file
Date: 29 Jan 1995 21:47:27 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501300347.AA22073@alleg.EDU>
Question: How are you adding the suffixes to open certain files via
double-click?
Possible Solution: Check to see if your Workspace ApplicationPath
default was corrupted somehow.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Locus.app fails to autolaunch
Date: 3 Feb 1995 06:38:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gsj1o$lfj@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Well... I finally downgraded to 3.2 from 3.3. PCI Video performance was
just too poor.
However, now I have run into a problem. I have been using Locus.app for
quite a while. Love the package. But after the downgrade (OK, reinstall
from scratch), Locus.app refuses to autolaunch. During login, the icon
greys out, but then it returns to the dead state (three dots). If I
manually double click on it, things work fine.
I went through and removed all the apps that I autolaunched (actually just
changed their autolauch setting) but that didn't help. I own all files
(so I don't belive it is a permission/ownership thing).
Any ideas what may be causing this behavior?
All thoughts sincerely appreciated.
TIA,
Steve
--
==================================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Department of Computer Science |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com
Subject: Re: ET4000 ISA config
Message-ID: <1995Feb2.205511.19468@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <3gjbvi$mle@fnnews.fnal.gov>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:55:11 GMT
John Brzezniak writes
> Hi,
>
> I've just installed NSFIP 3.2 on my 486DX-50 ISA system. I will be
upgrading
> the system to a VLB system so I can get color graphics but in the
meantime
> I'm using an ET4000 card and am trying to get the 1024x768@60hz greyscale
> driver working properly with my monitor. It seems to me that the refresh
> rates of my monitor are not compatible with those that the card is trying
to use.
> I've had this problem before with Linux and even Windows so I'm wondering
> if there is any way to change the refresh rates in the ET4000 config
files.
> I'm not too familiar yet with how driver configuration works so any help
> with this would make me eternally gratefull to you. :)
>
I had a Diamond Speedstar Plus ET4000-based video card that was having the
same problem you describe. The problem was in the NeXT Tseng ET4000
driver. Some clock bit is not being initialized properly. I tried a
"patched" driver and it worked fine. Unfortunately, I don't have the
"patched" driver any longer. It left us in a terrible crash, as in disk.
Someone from "down under", I think, posted the original source fix to the
ET4000 driver in comp.sys.next.hardware about a year ago. If you can find
the source patch on an archive somewhere, it just needs to be applied to
the ET4000 source code found in the DriverKit Examples in the Developer
package and compiled.
If anyone still has this patch hanging around, please e-mail it to me. I
may need it again someday.
Thanks and good luck!!!
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail/MIME accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
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the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jorice@cs.tcd.ie (Rice J.O.)
Subject: Renderman Print->Preview/Save?
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.190043.26641@cs.tcd.ie>
Organization: Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 19:00:43 GMT
I'm running NS 3.0, doing some fooling around with the 3DKit. I want
to produce postscript images of the contents of an N3DCamera, but it
seems to be working a bit strangely:
(1) The "Preview" option in the Print dialog box, triggered by
printPSCode:, doesn't work. It never launches Preview.app.
The same thing happens with 3View. A check with "ps" shows
that prman does run, claiming 87% or so of the CPU, but
Preview never appears.
(2) Saving the file from the Print dialog works, but very slowly.
I've checked repeatedly with "ps" and prman is only getting
a maximum of 23% of the CPU - a big difference from the above.
This happens in 3View also.
I don't know what happens with a real print job since I don't have a
printer connected.
So have I got prman badly configured or something? Or are these bugs
which have been fixed in 3.3?
-- Jonathan Rice
--
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 and FAST-SCSI-2
In-Reply-To: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de's message of Wed, 1 Feb 1995 23:50:49 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb3070008@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <D3CI8q.LuM@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:00:08 GMT
1. The Fast SCSI GUI
According to NeXT, the "Fast SCSI" switch box is disabled because Fast SCSI
is always on - you can't turn it off. The confusion lies in the GUI for the
2940 driver configuration inspector. NeXT should either remove the switch
button next to "Fast SCSI" or put a checkmark on it.
I hope everyone submits a bug report to bug_next@NeXT.com pointing out that
the SCSI Options GUI is confusing.
2. Cmd Queueing & Barracuda
Does anyone know if this works with a Seagate Barracuda ST12550N?
3. Synchronous & NEC CD-ROM
Does anyone know if you can run the NEC CD-ROM in synchronous mode?
Robert
From: warren@apl.washington.edu (Warren L. J. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: lint
Date: 30 Jan 1995 20:57:19 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gjjrf$3t@news.u.washington.edu>
Hello,
I have looked everywhere including NextAnswers and
cannot find any references to the C program verifier
lint (I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 Developer). Does anyone
know of the existence of public domain source code or
possibly an executable I could FTP? Thanks in advance!!
--
Warren L. J. Fox , E-mail: warren@apl.washington.edu
Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington
(206) 685-2125 or (206) 543-1300
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dial-on-demand PPP for NeXT (black)?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 3 Feb 1995 23:33:07 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3guefj$dnm@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: PPP
I'd appreciate e-mail pointers to dial-on-demand PPP (PD or commercial)
for NeXT (black) hardware. THanks!
--
Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science
Internet,NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University
uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station,TX 77843-3112
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From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Canon ObjectStations: Acad. Price? Experience?
Date: 3 Feb 1995 17:53:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950203235307.250AACUM.malc@daneel>
References: <msodhi.19.00118F63@umich.edu>
>1) Have you tried Canon's objectstations?
>
Yes, we have two.
>2) What is their academic price? (I saw a post sometime ago about a
company
>handling Canon's academically priced stations, but do not remember the
name.)
>
See Garret's post: OpenSource should do you proud (ours were from a UK-
distributor).
>3) What do you think about their price w.r.t. purchasing some other 486/100
or
>Pentium, and doing the installation yourself?
>
Well, it is expensive -- if Canon have any sense they'll reduce the price.
But it is *good*, and I feel we've got value for money.
> (I have a Gateway 486/66 currently with 1 M video RAM, 16M RAM,
> IDE CDROM, IDE harddisk (no SCSI): will NeXTStep 3.3 install and
> run on this machine?)
>
I believe NEXTSTEP will run, but your display will be a little limited, and
I *think* you'll still have to get a SCSI-based CD-ROM to install it (please
someone correct me if I misremember/misunderstood the documentation).
Have fun,
mmalc.
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From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Read-Write Optical Drives for NEXTSTEP
Date: 2 Feb 1995 18:56:32 GMT
Organization: Me! Organised!
Message-ID: <3gr9t0$10mn@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
References: <3gr3is$2cs@potogold.rmii.com>
Keywords: R/W_Optical, Optical, storage, next, intel
In article <3gr3is$2cs@potogold.rmii.com>,
Garrett L. Rice <garrett@opensource.com> wrote:
>Has anybody had success with Read-Write Optical drives (not the original
>Cube Floptical) with NEXTSTEP on intel? We want to pick up one for our
>hardware line, but we want to look before we leap!
>
>--
>Garrett L. Rice
>OpenSource, Inc.
>1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
>800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
>303.861.2393 FAX
>garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
We used the Pinnacle PMO-650 r/w optical drive that uses standard two-
sdied optical disks realising 650 MB unformatted. It just plugged & played
with our Intel machine (Dell 486DX66 machine) under NEXTSTEP and all I had
to do to have it run on our black machine was add the following entry to
/etc/disktab:
PINNACLEOHD-650:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#18643:nt#1:ns#31:ss#1024:rm#3600:\
:fp#160:bp#256:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#288339:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
A colleague currently has the manuals etc. or I'd include the address,
phone# etc. Get in touch by email if you have problems contacting
Pinnacle.
david
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From: gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Gregory W. Gee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Floppy disk formating ?????
Date: 3 Feb 1995 16:20:16 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Sender: gee@obelix (Gregory W. Gee)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gtl40$4b3@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Are there any plans on upgrading the ist of floppies that black
hardware can read.
DD HD ED
DOS x x ?
NeXT x x x
MAC x ? ?
When are the missing holes going to be filled in? This hasn't changed
in a long time.
Thanks.
--
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee The G-Man gee@csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/mandas/uwo/members/gee/
****************************************************************************
From: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Axel G Merk,346H,48341,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: generate VT100 keys in Terminal - PgDn
Date: 2 Feb 1995 21:25:46 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3grikq$p8d@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Hi,
I need to access a database with a VT100 interface. I figured out that
I can generate VT100 key strokes when I select this option under
Terminal Preferences... VT100 Emulation.
Having figured out how I can press PF1...PF4, I now need to get to the
next page: It tells me to selecte 'page suiv.' which is supposed to be
French for the following page, and I gather that's the PgDn / PageDown
key.
Question: how do I generate this key with my good old original NeXT
keyboard (black hardware)?
I would appreciate an email as answer, since I have a difficult time
accessing USENET. I'll summarize if there's demand.
thanks a bunch,
axel merk
agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: New Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge Driver for NeXTSTEP 3.3
Date: 4 Feb 1995 02:56:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3guqd7INNo9s@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <3ge6kf$fta@network.ucsd.edu> <1995Feb1.013954.6877@Radical.Com>
In article <1995Feb1.013954.6877@Radical.Com>, Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com writes:
|>
|> > Q: did your original machine have the Intel chipset bug?
|>
|> Yes, we have verified the presence of the floating-point bug.
He's not talking about the FP bug. It has no pertinence to this discussion.
What he's asking about is a Neptune chipset (aka 824X0) bug that the Next
Host Bridge Driver has to work around. I'm not sure of particulars, only
that the bug exists and that the software workaround hits performance.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.213719.10547@rdbois.uucp>
Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby)
Organization: S.RUBY
References: <3gokok$8mr@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 21:37:19 GMT
In article <3gokok$8mr@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
>
> Jayson produced some of the best software for NeXT in his time. Let's
> hope we will get more.
>
> Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
I too like NewsGrazer very much and uses it every single day.
I strongly encourage Jayson to write more software.
Serge
From: tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Enough memory for NS PA-RISC
Date: 2 Feb 1995 16:01:58 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gqvlm$3jp@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
References: <3glmro$fse@news.nd.edu> <1995Jan31.223152.24794@news.media.mit.edu> <3gog8r$7ev@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
Guenther Bauer (h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at) wrote:
> I would like to know if you are using NextStep 3.2 or 3.3 on your HP's? I
> have got a 712/60 and wanted to buy the 3.3 version, however the guy at
> the local store meant that it is not available for the moment (at least
> for HP PA RISC).
NeXT has ported NEXTSTEP 3.2 to the PA RISC platform. 3.3 is
currently not available.
--
martin michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: LBA Drives and 800x600 laptop screens
Date: 3 Feb 1995 11:05:05 -0800
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <3gtup1$ke0@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
I looked through the 3.3 compatibility guide and couldn't really find an
answer to these questions (so maybe that means no): Does NeXTStep 3.3
support LBA drives? And will it support the new 800x600 8 bit color screen
resolution of NEC's Versa M and P laptops? (I assume that it now
supports most laptops' 640x480 modes).
Thanks,
- Trent Lange
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Weird modem line problem with slab?
Date: 3 Feb 1995 22:46:55 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3gubov$pm1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I've connected my new (to me) slab to my trusty Supra 144LC modem,
using the NeXT modem cable. I'm using kermit5a190, and think I
have everything set up correctly. As a test, I downloaded the 1.2
MB tarred, compressed kermit archive again. No transmission errors,
and about 1100 cps.
Here's my problem: at random times, sometimes when no data is
being transferred, I get a burst of line noise, accompanied by the
sound of some hard drive activity, and then a message from kermit
saying that it can't read the character---i/o error---and it returns
to 'localhost'. A little bit later, the modem clicks off.
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on how to fix this. Sometimes
I can work for over an hour with no problem, and sometimes I get cut
off after 15 or 20 minutes. I'm connecting to our campus network,
and this worked fine with my IBM AT using the same modem.
1) I think the integrety of my set-up is verified by the ability to
download the compressed kermit archive. So I suspect the phone
lines. Does this seem reasonable?
2) Why do I hear the hard drive working when I get the noise characters?
Does this show something weird with my hardware?
3) Why doesn't the modem click off immediately?
4) Why would my modem dial itself? This happened several times,
but I believe I was using tip. I think I had quit tip (or kermit)
but left the modem on. After a while, the modem just started
dialing all by itself! I wondered if maybe the carrier signal
is handled differently with NeXT, and it went down, and triggered
the auto-dial mode on the modem.
5) Apparently, the network/mail files on the machine are set up as if
the machine was still in a corporate network (since I bought it,
it's stand-alone). Could this affect the serial ports' activity?
6) If there were a problem with the port, could it manifest itself
in such a 'flakey' problem?
7) I doubt that the speed or compression are at fault, since I get
the noise/hangup sometimes when I'm neither typing or receiving
new information on the screen---therefore no data is being
transferred. Is this assumption valid?
This is for a NeXTstation, using serial port A, with a NeXT modem
cable supplied by DancingBear, using /dev/cufa, running at 57,600
baud.
Thanks in advance,
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: file import with WordPerfect on NeXT
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.231033.7432@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3gt4v1$b6f@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 23:10:33 GMT
Christian Musinszki writes
> Hello world,
Hi!
> -Is it possible to import WordPerfect-files from WordPerfect (Versi
> on 5.1) for Windows into WordPerfect on NeXT (Version ?.?)?
Yes. The last version of WP for NeXTSTEP (1.0.1, June 10, 1993) was/is
equivalent to WP 5.1 for Windows. So it's not even really an "import", it
just works.
> -If it is possible to do so, can those files be saved in
NeXT-RichTextFormat(.rtf) by WordPerfect on NeXT?
Yes. One of the WP menu options is Save As, and on the Save panel that
appears is a popup button where you can select the output file format.
The choices include RTF.
--
Denise Howard \/ howardd@swissbank.com
Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
(312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: lint
Date: 4 Feb 1995 01:49:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gumf6$rrh@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3glvi8$bhq@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <3glvi8$bhq@news.u.washington.edu> warren@apl.washington.edu
(Warren L. J. Fox) writes:
> I have gotten several responses from people regarding
> my request for lint for NEXTSTEP. Supposedly, the
> error checking capabilities of lint are included in GNU
> cc by using the -Wall flag. However, I had a very
> nasty bug that I was only able to diagnose by copying
> my code over to a Sun and running alint on it, so
> beware!
>
Don't know what your nasty bug was, but I decided that -Wall wasn't
quite enough, so I define OTHER_CFLAGS in Makefile.preamble as (-pipe
doesn't provide any lint functionality but can make compilation faster if
one's machine has sufficient RAM):
OTHER_CFLAGS = -pipe -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: wav/voc -> snd ?
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 00:00:01 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950204000001.250AACUN.malc@daneel>
References: <3g5bf9$i7a@sun24.tfh-berlin.de> <3g7tb0$m3u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Unter Unix heisst der Konverter sox. Fuer NeXT gibts ein Front-End
> namens GISO.app (enthaelt sox). Wenn GISO nicht auf ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de
> liegt, holst Du es am besten von ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
>
Es gibt auch mein Workspace Inspector fuer .wav und .aiff: es liegt am
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util/MMSoundsInspector.bundle.tar.Z
es gibt einige Bugs, aber...
Have fun,
mmalk.
(second time I've written German in 12+ years!)
From: fnord@eek.sbi.com (Andrew Harasty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Next 3.2 for Intel and Mail
Date: 2 Feb 1995 20:29:55 GMT
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Inc.
Sender: fnord@eek.sbi.com
Message-ID: <3grfc3$aqq@sbi.sbi.com>
I have come across a small problem with NeXT Mail.
Backgroud.
I have a Pentium Box running NeXTStep 3.2.
The rest of the Network is primarily SunOS 4.1.3
The mailhost is a SunOS 4.1.3
The Problem:
When I send a Bogus message though NeXTMail it does one of two things.
If /usr/spool/mail/fnord (on mailhost) exists and is owned by fnord
(and is set 600) then the message goes off to the bit bucket
If /usr/spool/mail/fnord (on mailhost) does not exist, then the bad
message creates the mailfile and sets the owner to nobody.
Now /usr/spool/mail is on the mailhost and the Next Machine is mounting
that diretory though NFSMananger.
Has anyone seen this before and know what could be going on.
_thnaks
fnord@eek.sbi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lacsap@sledge-hammer.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: LBA Drives and 800x600 laptop screens
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.220349.21795@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <3gtup1$ke0@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 22:03:49 GMT
I can only speak from my experiences with the Versa M and an 810 drive.
The LBA drive was not recognized correctly by the installation process.
Also the Versa would not allow to customize the drive type with an
LBA drive present during set. So the kludge we came up with was to
remove the disk from the versa, run setup, select customized drive
type (in the case of the 810 we had to remove the tin foil case gently
to discover the IBM drive inside and see the geometry)... You need
to make sure the internal ide is enabled too.Then save
the set up, and reinstall the drive. This slight of hand helped
so that the next installation went smoothly. We installed four machines
this way. They are all happy.
pasc
In article <3gtup1$ke0@lanai.cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent
Lange) writes:
>
> I looked through the 3.3 compatibility guide and couldn't really find an
> answer to these questions (so maybe that means no): Does NeXTStep 3.3
> support LBA drives? And will it support the new 800x600 8 bit color
screen
> resolution of NEC's Versa M and P laptops? (I assume that it now
> supports most laptops' 640x480 modes).
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Trent Lange
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Read-Write Optical Drives for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D3GF00.8xL@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3gr3is$2cs@potogold.rmii.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 02:31:11 GMT
Garrett L. Rice (garrett@opensource.com) wrote:
: Has anybody had success with Read-Write Optical drives (not the original
: Cube Floptical) with NEXTSTEP on intel? We want to pick up one for our
: hardware line, but we want to look before we leap!
My new 384MB 3.5-inch Ocean MO is due in any day; so that answer(for
me) is close at hand. This drive can attach to Intel or Motorola, and
supports a variety of 3.5-inch formats. I am impressed with Ocean's
emphasis on quality; they prefer to delay the release of new products
in favor of good design work. They can be reached at 714-898-1340.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Floppy disk formating ?????
Message-ID: <D3G3zH.J05@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3gtl40$4b3@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 22:33:17 GMT
In article <3gtl40$4b3@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Gregory W. Gee) writes:
| Are there any plans on upgrading the ist of floppies that black
| hardware can read.
|
| DD HD ED
| DOS x x ?
| NeXT x x x
| MAC x ? ?
|
| When are the missing holes going to be filled in? This hasn't changed
| in a long time.
|
| Thanks.
|
| --
| ****************************************************************************
| Greg Gee The G-Man gee@csd.uwo.ca
| Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
| University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca
| >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted
| http://www.csd.uwo.ca/mandas/uwo/members/gee/
| ****************************************************************************
Mac HD-Discs can be read an written. ED on a MAC is still not supported.
PC-ED is the real interesting thing upon it will be supported by the
PC-board-producer
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel_____________________________________
Firma: KARSTADT AG Muenchen - Haus Oberpollinger am Dom
NeXTmail: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (MIME)
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: converting one multiple page fax to multiple one page faxes
Date: 3 Feb 1995 15:05:25 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3gtgnl$o2@rosie.next.com>
References: <3gnb2g$83f@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
In article <3gnb2g$83f@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
rnielsen@everest.everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen) writes:
# Greetings,
#
# Is there a way to convert one multiple page fax into multiple one
# page faxes? How can one arbitrary choose to make sub-faxes from a
# fax?
#
# More simply, how can one convert a 3 page fax into a 1 page fax and a
# 2 page fax?
You can use tiffutil to extract pages from a fax file.
joe
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet Printer with NS?
Date: 4 Feb 1995 15:43:22 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h07aq$ir1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1995Jan30.153010.3781@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> <3gm6o4$9o@filtronix.eunet.be>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Filip Lingier (filip@filtronix.eunet.be) wrote:
: In article <1995Jan30.153010.3781@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
: Mario.Koehler@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Mario Koehler) writes:
: > is there a way to use a HP Deskjet printer with nextstep? i know that
: > usually only postscript devices can be used, but maybe there is some
: > kinda cool hack :)
: The cool thing you're looking for is GhostScript. Find the latest on
: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/gnu/ghostscript/aladdin/*
In addition to that, grab ghostHPDJ0.2.tar.gz. It is a tool which integrates
control over shingling, color and other parameters your HP Printer and
ghostscript use in a nice GUI fashion.
In addition to that the README tells you how to integrate your HP as a full
blown NetInfo Printer.
Get it ...
--
Alexander Keiblinger keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de +49-30-3470103-1
"Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo."
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 and FAST-SCSI-2
Date: 4 Feb 1995 17:12:54 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3h0cim$jep@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <D3CI8q.LuM@prz.tu-berlin.de> <RDL.95Feb3070008@world.std.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
>3. Synchronous & NEC CD-ROM
>Does anyone know if you can run the NEC CD-ROM in synchronous mode?
Yes, recently I configured a machine with 2940 and NEC double-speed CD-ROM.
I set max. transfer rate to 5 MB/s for the CD, it might also work with
the default 10 MB/s, but I did not try.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 3 Feb 1995 13:13:15 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gta5b$ncf@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <3gs8sj$fff@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
A cleaner way to do this is to not use temporary files at all:
man -t $1 | open
performs the same function, is easier to type, and doesn't leave all those tmp
files around. Also, I recommend explicitly adding the TROFF environment
variable to the script, so that others may more easily use it and so that man
-t <command> does the right thing without a lot of work. My copy of the script
would read:
#!/bin/csh
setenv TROFF "ptroff -t"
man -t $1 | open
Tim
In article <3gs8sj$fff@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
> Well, I spoke too soon, it seems I was fooled by
> the File viewer into believing that Preview did
> indeed delete the files after I closed them
> or exited. It does not.
> man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
> open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
> rm /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnus@rainbow.uchicago.edu (& Nordborg)
Subject: Chicago NS users
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Jan31133253@rainbow.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:32:53 GMT
I am at the University of Chicago and would like to get in
touch with someone at the university or close by that has
a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel.
Thanks,
-Magnus
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Xwindows for Next
Date: 4 Feb 1995 15:57:24 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h0pnk$6ru@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <D37FLE.v0@charmides.in-Berlin.DE>
We use co-Xist from Pencomm at work.
It is the Best X-Support I know of for NeXT
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:45:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gs8sj$fff@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3gn5qg$eb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <3gn5qg$eb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>
>Preview will load the file /tmp/.preview_which.ps
>If you close the file or exit Preview, then the
>Preview application automatically deletes the
>file in /tmp (that's because it starts with .preview)
>The file is nicely formatted for printing out.
>
>Hope that was new and helpful to you!
Well, I spoke too soon, it seems I was fooled by
the File viewer into believing that Preview did
indeed delete the files after I closed them
or exited. It does not. My statement was purely
based on "perceived experience" This was not documented
anywhere and it does not work as I thought. So, my hack was to
add a "rm" command to ~/Apps/psman So, basically
it will open the file up and then delete it
while it is open in Preview. I know some of you
will call that heresy since Preview shows a
saved file which is actually not there, but
you can still re-save it and print it at will.
It works for me, your results may vary:
~/Apps/psman now looks like this:
man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
rm /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
>--
>Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
>Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
>2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
>wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
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From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: file import with WordPerfect on NeXT
Date: 4 Feb 1995 16:20:41 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h0r39$758@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3gt4v1$b6f@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
You can do so but you will run into problems.
1. Do not use Tables in the 5.1 Doc
2. Since Next uses Postscript and Windows TrueType the fonts usually come
out larger or not at all if the font from the 5.1 doc is not supported.
3. Graphics "usually" come across pretty well but if you print them from
NeXT go to Lunch it will be awhile before it comes out of the Printer.
In general WordPerfect for NeXT and DOS/Windows are two intirely different
animals. Unfortunately WordPerfect is nolonger supporting NeXT.
I am looking for a word processor that that will bring WP5.1 files across
with Tables. Haven't found one yet though. Keep in touch and I will help
if I can.
NextMail -------> @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNextMail -> definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Weird modem line problem with slab?
Date: 5 Feb 1995 02:10:36 GMT
Organization: Me! Organised!
Message-ID: <3h1c2s$fd6@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
References: <3gubov$pm1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <3gubov$pm1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,
David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>I've connected my new (to me) slab to my trusty Supra 144LC modem,
>using the NeXT modem cable. I'm using kermit5a190, and think I
>have everything set up correctly. As a test, I downloaded the 1.2
>MB tarred, compressed kermit archive again. No transmission errors,
>and about 1100 cps.
>
>Here's my problem: at random times, sometimes when no data is
>being transferred, I get a burst of line noise, accompanied by the
>sound of some hard drive activity, and then a message from kermit
>saying that it can't read the character---i/o error---and it returns
>to 'localhost'. A little bit later, the modem clicks off.
[munch
You may be suffering from a less-than-perfect modem. I have heard
complaints about Supras, though I have no first hand experience with
them. I understood the chip inside could be upgraded. Perhaps you
could check with your supplier on that.
>4) Why would my modem dial itself? This happened several times,
> but I believe I was using tip. I think I had quit tip (or kermit)
> but left the modem on. After a while, the modem just started
> dialing all by itself! I wondered if maybe the carrier signal
[munch
Have you checked your /etc/crontab and (if you have one) /etc/crontab.local?
You may find that the previous user/owner left a scheduled dialout in one
of those lists. It would look something like:
23 1,2,4,6,10,12,15,18,21 * * * uucp /usr/local/lib/uucp/uucico -f -s tsr
although it may not be uucp that handles the call, and pathname/options
would be different. The format of the time schedule is
Minute(0-59) Hour(0-23) day(1-31) month(1-12) dayOfWeek(1-7 with 1=Monday)
so that for the example given, uucp calls out at 23 minutes past the hour
at times ranging from 01:23 (1:23 am) to 21:23 (9:23pm) every day of every week
of every month (the effect of the three "*"s for the last three schedule
parameters. If you remove the entry (or put a "#" as the first character
of the line), your machine won't suddenly decide to dial on you (if that
is the problem).
>Thanks in advance,
>
>David Finton
>
Hope this helps.
david
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From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: file import with WordPerfect on NeXT
Date: 4 Feb 1995 18:06:16 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3h0fmo$pi4@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3gt4v1$b6f@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <1995Feb3.231033.7432@il.us.swissbank.com>
Denise Howard (howardd@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: Yes. The last version of WP for NeXTSTEP (1.0.1, June 10, 1993) was/is
: equivalent to WP 5.1 for Windows. So it's not even really an "import", it
: just works.
The only caveat regarding the cross-platform compatibility of these files
(as I have told Denise here (bad girl!)), is that WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP
DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY OF WRODPERFECT'S TABLING FEATURES so that if you
have tables you are hoping to bring over, you are hosed.
: > -If it is possible to do so, can those files be saved in
: NeXT-RichTextFormat(.rtf) by WordPerfect on NeXT?
: Yes. One of the WP menu options is Save As, and on the Save panel that
: appears is a popup button where you can select the output file format.
: The choices include RTF.
Also another caveat...if you are hoping to read the NeXT .rtf file in
something like Microsoft Word, the translation is far from perfect.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 and FAST-SCSI-2
In-Reply-To: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 4 Feb 1995 17:12:54 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb5051142@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <D3CI8q.LuM@prz.tu-berlin.de> <RDL.95Feb3070008@world.std.com>
<3h0cim$jep@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 10:11:42 GMT
I should have been more specific. Has anyone gotten synchronous SCSI to work
with a NEC 4xi CD-ROM? How about with the Adaptec 2940? Also, is synchronous
SCSI desirable for CD-ROMs?
Robert
In article <3h0cim$jep@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:
rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
>3. Synchronous & NEC CD-ROM
>Does anyone know if you can run the NEC CD-ROM in synchronous mode?
Yes, recently I configured a machine with 2940 and NEC double-speed CD-ROM.
I set max. transfer rate to 5 MB/s for the CD, it might also work with
the default 10 MB/s, but I did not try.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet Printer with NS?
Message-ID: <1995Feb4.154842.411@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: Eversmile
References: <1995Jan30.153010.3781@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 15:48:42 GMT
In article <1995Jan30.153010.3781@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Mario.Koehler@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Mario Koehler) writes:
> hey...
>
> is there a way to use a HP Deskjet printer with nextstep? i know that usually
> only postscript devices can be used, but maybe there is some kinda cool hack :)
>
> ciao mario
Try JetPilot from interpersonal computing info@interpc.de.
Ther are demoversions on FTP.
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____________________________________________________________
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 5 Feb 1995 16:04:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU>
[[ Wassim M. Jabi's original post appears after my .sig for anyone
who missed it ]]
Wassim M. Jabi came up with a great way to format man pages for
printing (see post below). However, it used Preview.app, and I
usually don't have that running. I do usually have Edit.app running,
though, so I put this into a script:
open -a Edit -unhide
man $1 | col -b | openfile
I called the script myman and made it executable, rehashed, and then did
myman somecommand
Edit.app is unhidden (after being launched if necessary) and the man
page is in a nice format in Edit.app
NOTE: this method loses some of the underlining etc of a usual
manpage. If anyone knows how to get those to go into a RTF file, I'd
love to know how
WARNING: the above script assumes that the user has the replacement
version of the 'open' binary. If this is not true, then it should be
IMMEDIATELY ftp'd from:
(the actual binary)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.
NI.b.tar.gz
(just the readme)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.README
(the source code)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.s.tar.gz
IF the new version of 'open' is not being used, then the first line
of the script may be omitted, provided that Edit.app is running when
the script is executed. 'openfile' will fail is Edit.app is not
already running.
If anyone knows a way to better format man pages for Edit.app (ASCII
or preferably RTF) please let me know.
thanks
TjL
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Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
In comp.sys.next.misc article
<3gn5qg$eb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu wrote:
This might be well-known to many (but not to me):
I finally found a way to get nice-looking man pages displayed
automagically in Preview ready to be printed (or NOT)
You might need to zoom-in once to see the text clearly.
In any case, I wanted something better than "more" in
a shell and ready to be printed if needed.
Here is what I did:
In .cshrc I added the TROFF environment variable:
setenv TROFF "ptroff -t"
The "ptroff -t" sends data to standard output.
The TROFF variable is used by "man -t"
In my Apps directory I added a text file, I
named it "psman". It contains two lines:
man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
I then made it executable:
yourhost% chmod u+x ~/Apps/psman
Did a rehash:
yourhost% rehash
That's it.
Now when you issue, for example, the command:
yourhost% psman which
(instead of yourhost% man which)
Preview will load the file /tmp/.preview_which.ps
If you close the file or exit Preview, then the
Preview application automatically deletes the
file in /tmp (that's because it starts with .preview)
The file is nicely formatted for printing out.
Hope that was new and helpful to you!
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Improvement in 3.3: CDPlayer.app
Message-ID: <1995Feb5.150028.1132@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3gliub$13ot@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 15:00:28 GMT
In article <3gliub$13ot@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:
> In article <D385up.2B0@qb.rhein-main.de> vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker
> Herminghaus-Shirai) writes:
> > Just found a nice cleanup in 3.3 Black:
> > CDPlayer can now change the volume on non-Sony drives (mine is a
> > Toshiba 44xx). It also comes to the front when you click on it. It
> > used to frontize :-) only when you clicked on the title bar. Now it's
> > in line with the UI guide.
>
> They also seem to have broken the Volume default. Whenever I
> launch CDPlayer the volume is knocked down by exactly 155.
> After launching and quitting a few times I got this:
>
> dread -o CDPlayer
> CDPlayer "NXWindow Frame CDPlayer" "879 551 170 279 "
> CDPlayer Volume -245
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
Probably not the actual value, but I noticed this diminishing volume after
subsequent launches from the beginning (NeXTstation and NeXT CD/ROM
drive).
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 5 Feb 1995 14:44:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502052044.AA09706@alleg.EDU>
I am confused (not a new experience for me, just a recurring one)
Up until this point, I thought that 'gzip' was the best form of
compression available on the NeXT. Today I was getting some files
ready for transfer to IBM, and it really seems like IBM's 'zip'
compression works better.
1.16MB - unarchived
.409 MB - .tar.gz (using gzip -best)
.389 MB - .zip (dragging it to Opener.app)
OK, so maybe that isn't a huge difference, but if you were
compressing a lot of files, it might make a big difference (and there
was no real-time difference in the time it took to un-archive the
files)
And there are other compression binaries besides zip as well... So
(at the risk of starting a debate) -- what is the best one to use in
terms of compression achived?
TjL
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NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Date: 5 Feb 1995 23:47:24 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h3o2c$14c@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb3.213719.10547@rdbois.uucp>
sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) writes:
> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
> > Jayson produced some of the best software for NeXT in his time.
> > Let's hope we will get more.
> >
> > Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
>
> I too like NewsGrazer very much and uses it every single day.
> I strongly encourage Jayson to write more software.
The strongest encouragement for any programmer would be to pay
them money... :-)
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 6 Feb 1995 12:28:18 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3h54l2$kvl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <9502052044.AA09706@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma writes
> I am confused (not a new experience for me, just a recurring one)
>
> Up until this point, I thought that 'gzip' was the best form of
> compression available on the NeXT. Today I was getting some files
> ready for transfer to IBM, and it really seems like IBM's 'zip'
> compression works better.
>
> 1.16MB - unarchived
>
> .409 MB - .tar.gz (using gzip -best)
> .389 MB - .zip (dragging it to Opener.app)
Was that a single file, or multiple files? If it was a single file,
the difference could probably be attributable to the tar overhead
If multiple files, could it be that .zip handles them with less
overhead than tar?
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From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Weird modem line problem with slab? --- SOLVED!
Date: 6 Feb 1995 00:57:56 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3h3s6k$n7b@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <3gubov$pm1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <3h1c2s$fd6@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
>In article <3gubov$pm1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,
>David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>Here's my problem: at random times, sometimes when no data is
>>being transferred, I get a burst of line noise, accompanied by the
>>sound of some hard drive activity, and then a message from kermit
>>saying that it can't read the character---i/o error---and it returns
>>to 'localhost'. A little bit later, the modem clicks off.
>[munch
>>4) Why would my modem dial itself? This happened several times,
>> but I believe I was using tip. I think I had quit tip (or kermit)
>> but left the modem on. After a while, the modem just started
>> dialing all by itself! I wondered if maybe the carrier signal
>[munch
>Have you checked your /etc/crontab and (if you have one) /etc/crontab.local?
>You may find that the previous user/owner left a scheduled dialout in one
>of those lists. It would look something like:
[ Helpful explanation of crontab deleted ]
BINGO! Actually, I found this yesterday, but thanks for the help and the
explanation. I found the following in my crontab file:
35 5-21 * * 1-5 uucp /usr/bin/uupoll next
35 1,3,23 * * 1-5 uucp /usr/bin/uupoll next
35 1,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,23 * * 6,7 uucp /usr/bin/uupoll next
And yesterday (Sat) I started up kermit at 12:30 and noted that it went
down at 12:35 and, after restarting, stayed up until going down again at
3:35. Right on schedule. I'm pleased with myself for figuring this out,
but thanks for explaining the connection to the "self-dialing!" I'm a happy
camper.
--David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: me@nxcb01.cern.ch (My Account)
Subject: Xgigabyte-disks
Message-ID: <D3L9E1.6vB@news.cern.ch>
Keywords: disks
Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:18:01 GMT
Hi,
did anyone try some of this new multiple (2,4,9) Gigabyte disks on an old
25 MHz black NeXTstation. Do they work and how much space is lost due to
formatting?
Ulrich
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Workaround for Fiend.app/Emacs.app problem(s)
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:16:10 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3h63iq$h2p@panix.com>
Hi.
Since the release of Fiend v1.1, I had had some
reports of Fiend.app not tracking the launch
status of Emacs.app properly. These reports always
confused me, because on both of the machines I use,
Emacs.app seemed to work fine with Fiend.app.
After some discussion with Carl Edman (author of Emacs.app),
we discovered what the problem is.
In short, the default configuration of Emacs.app is
such that the process table entry for the running
Emacs process is listed as "emacs" rather than "Emacs".
As a result of this, Fiend's launch tracking algorithm
gets hopelessly confused, and it eventually decides that
there is no Emacs running.
This behavior is caused by the fact that the Emacs.app/Emacs
file is in fact a soft link to Emacs.app/bin/emacs (which is
something I discovered and altered some months ago, then forgot
about).
The fix is simply to reverse the soft link:
unix> mv Emacs.app/bin/emacs Emacs.app/Emacs
unix> (cd Emacs.app/bin ; ln -s ../Emacs emacs)
Carl maintains that this should be "perfectly safe", and I've
been running this way for months without problems.
If anyone has a problem with this fix, I would appreciate
hearing about it.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: jallison@thor.tjhsst.edu (Jared Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT's address
Date: 6 Feb 1995 07:26:52 -0500
Organization: The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h54ic$ghd@thor.tjhsst.edu>
What is the address of the NeXT corp.'s PR office and the name of the
individual to contact in this office?
-Jared Allison
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTSTEP on PowerPC/PowerMAC
Date: 6 Feb 1995 07:27:32 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3h4j14$g9a@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I am considering purchasing a machine to run NeXTSTEP from home. Obviously
a normal Intel processor would be ok, but I am quite interested in the
new PowerPC/PowerMAC were you can buy a 486 board. Does anyone have
any experience with installing NeXTSTEP on the PowerPC/PowerMAC and
exactly what I need to but to run both MAC (or DOS) and NeXTSTEP on
the same machine (rebooting obviously). I
As normal thanks for any information in advance. If possible please reply
by email.
Dave
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From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: ? Compilation Time Benchmarks for various archs
Message-ID: <D3LxzD.5EB@ilink.de>
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 02:09:12 GMT
I would like to get some benchmarks on compilation time when done on the
various platforms. I.e how much faster is a compile on a HPPA, Pentium (or
Sparc ?) system compared to a 25MHz NeXT.
Background: Does it make sense to install a compile server to speed up
development ? If so what is the fastest machine available and which
machine does offer the best price/performance ratio.
Some points that should be considered to make things compareable
- the target architecure for which code gets generated should be the
same for all compiles
- the filesystem should be local as I'm interested in compile
performance not NFS performance
- the machine should be idle except for the compile done
- please use the time command and include full output
- please include the type of harddisk that you're using as this may also
have a severe impact
Thanks for your help
Eike
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ET4000 ISA config
Date: 7 Feb 1995 03:33:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h6plh$p7a@bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au>
References: <1995Feb2.205511.19468@radical2.radical.com>
In article <1995Feb2.205511.19468@radical2.radical.com>
Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com writes:
> John Brzezniak writes
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using an ET4000 card and am trying to get the 1024x768@60hz
greyscale
> > driver working properly with my monitor. It seems to me that the
refresh
> > rates of my monitor are not compatible with those that the card is
trying
> to use.
>
> Someone from "down under", I think, posted the original source fix to
the
> ET4000 driver in comp.sys.next.hardware about a year ago. >
>
I'm the "down-under" guy :-). I've finally got off my backside to upload
the driver and the readme. In the interests of bandwidth, I'll just give
the URLs for a patched binary:
file://ftp.cs.orst.edu/Incoming/TsengLabsET4000.config.compressed
and the README which includes the original patch:
file://ftp.cs.orst.edu/Incoming/TsengLabsET4000.README
These files should migrate to the Drivers directory. That should solve
your problem. I haven't upgraded to 3.3 so I don't know if they've done
anything about it (I reported it via BugNeXT) or if the patch will work
with 3.3 drivers (I assume the source is still supplied?).
Enjoy
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer vs ?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3h3o2c$14c@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 08:58:05 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Feb7.085805.17585@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3h3o2c$14c@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) writes:
> > ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
> > > Jayson produced some of the best software for NeXT in his time.
> > > Let's hope we will get more.
> > >
> > > Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
> >
> > I too like NewsGrazer very much and uses it every single day.
> > I strongly encourage Jayson to write more software.
>
> The strongest encouragement for any programmer would be to pay
> them money... :-)
I usually find that offering a product for sale is a necessary
prerequisite :-).
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SmartSoft contact info please?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 15:42:50 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h61ka$8a2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi all,
I have the following contact info for SmartSoft (the may StayInTouch).
>If you have questions or comments about InTouch, contact us at the above
>address, or at:
>Info@SmartSoft.COM (NeXT mail)
>(414)964-8864 (Voice)
>(414)964-4672 (FAX)
Unfortunatly this info is no longer valid. Does anyone have the new phone#
or e-mail address?
Thanks, Later, John
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 1 Feb 1995 05:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gn5qg$eb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
This might be well-known to many (but not to me):
I finally found a way to get nice-looking man pages displayed
automagically in Preview ready to be printed (or NOT)
You might need to zoom-in once to see the text clearly.
In any case, I wanted something better than "more" in
a shell and ready to be printed if needed.
Here is what I did:
In .cshrc I added the TROFF environment variable:
setenv TROFF "ptroff -t"
The "ptroff -t" sends data to standard output.
The TROFF variable is used by "man -t"
In my Apps directory I added a text file, I
named it "psman". It contains two lines:
man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
I then made it executable:
yourhost% chmod u+x ~/Apps/psman
Did a rehash:
yourhost% rehash
That's it.
Now when you issue, for example, the command:
yourhost% psman which
(instead of yourhost% man which)
Preview will load the file /tmp/.preview_which.ps
If you close the file or exit Preview, then the
Preview application automatically deletes the
file in /tmp (that's because it starts with .preview)
The file is nicely formatted for printing out.
Hope that was new and helpful to you!
--
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Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: coil@osc.edu (Stacy D. Coil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help:Intel Config and Hardware questions
Date: 6 Feb 1995 18:29:20 GMT
Organization: Ohio Supercomputer Center
Message-ID: <3h5pq0$hsf@mane.cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
I have a few questions that do not appear in NeXT Questions on the FAQ.
Here they go.
Will next support the dual pentium boards sometime in the near future?
I need to run more than 2 operating systems (NeXTSTEP, DOS, Linux, OS/2
Warp). I have heard that NeXTSTEP does not work and play well in this
type of environment. It has been suggested that more than one drive
should be used. Could the people that have configured their system this
way please let me know what your experiences are?
Finally, here is the configuration that I am considering. I think that
this will work, but I would like a few opinions:
Dual Pentium P5-100Mhz PCI/EISA (one processor)
32 MB Memory
Adaptec 2940W PCI SCSI-2 Controller
Either 2 1-GB SCSI-2 Drive or 1 2-GB SCSI-2 Drive
Internal 4mm DAT Tabe backup
Toshiba 3501 internal 4x CD-ROM Drive
Either ATI Mach64 4 Meg or Number Nine Imagine 128 8 Meg
Sound Blaster AWE 32
Etherlink III Ethernet Card
1.44 Floppy drive
2/serial 1/parallel
Keyboard
Serial Mouse
17" or 19" Monitor
If anyone has any comments, please send them my way.
Thanks
Stacy
coil@osc.edu
Systems Programmer
Ohio Supercomputer Center
From: rft@raven (Robert F Tobler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 6 Feb 1995 10:41:17 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3h4ucd$s33@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <9502052044.AA09706@alleg.EDU>
In article <9502052044.AA09706@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma) writes:
> ...
> ready for transfer to IBM, and it really seems like IBM's 'zip'
^^^
Zip is *not* an IBM product. The original zip program was written by Phil
Katz (pkzip) for MSDOS systems. He made the file format public-domain, and
a group of great programmers (Mark Adler, Richard B. Wales, Jean-loup
Gailly, Kai Uwe Rommel, Igor Mandrichenko and John Bush, S.H. Smith)
implemented a public-domain version of the utility, the Info-Zip version.
>
> 1.16MB - unarchived
>
> ..409 MB - .tar.gz (using gzip -best)
> ..389 MB - .zip (dragging it to Opener.app)
>
> OK, so maybe that isn't a huge difference, but if you were
> compressing a lot of files, it might make a big difference (and there
> was no real-time difference in the time it took to un-archive the
> files)
>
gzip uses the same algorithm as zip. If you compress a single file, there
should only be a insignificant difference in compressed file size. For
compressing multiple files, gzip normally compresses better, since it can
compress accross file boundaries (gzip only compresses a single file,
multiple files need to be archived into a single one with tar; zip never
compresses across file boundaries). Due to the use of heuristics to switch
between the compression dictionaries used by the alogrithm this can only
be viewed as a rule of thumb, and for special cases (such as yours)
different behaviour can be observed.
> And there are other compression binaries besides zip as well... So
> (at the risk of starting a debate) -- what is the best one to use in
> terms of compression achived?
>
There is no single best compression program for all purposes (if there
were, all the problems of AI would be solved :-), the performance of each
program depends on the characteristics of the data to be compressed. For
more information check the compression-FAQ (newsgroup: comp.compression).
Personally I think, zip is a very good compression program. If you check
the mentioned FAQ, you'll find out that it has similar compression
performance as its direct competitors (arj, lha, zoo), but if you take
both compressed size and compression speed into account zip seems to beat
its direct competitors. In addition to that, the Info-zip version is
highly portable (there are Versions for most flavours of Unix, for VMS,
DOS, OS/2, NT, Ataris and others) and offers flags to aid in file transfer
between different platforms (crlf conversion, name conversion for MSDOS).
Now for using tar.gz versus zip: zip is more portable, it is possible to
extract single files without decompressing the whole archive and it is
more robust with respect to file damage. gzip on the other achives better
compression (on average, that is - your file is the exception :-).
----------------------------------------------------
Robert F. Tobler +43 (1) 588 01-4585
Institute of Computer Graphics rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Technical University of Vienna rft@cs.stanford.edu
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 5 Feb 1995 23:21:20 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h4840$8u0@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU>
Just another suggestion if you just want to print them out hard copy for
reference.
Just use the man <command name> and pipe it to lpr
ie. ( man tar | lpr ) That is if you have a printer available. It works
generally well and you don't lose any formatting of the man page.
I like your Idea because I would like to beable to read them at home on my
Dos PC. Without carrying all that paper.
Thanks for the post.
Mo86
From: vision@mindvox.phantom.com (ZiZi Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: preloaded NeXTSTEP PC
Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:06:56 -0500
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Sender: root@phantom.com
Message-ID: <1qNwZc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Keywords: NeXT
Last week I read a post about ordering thousands preloaded NeXTSTEP
PC. I am in the similar situation, though in a much small size.
I called DEC PCanalog 1-800-722-9332. Eric Robinson (ext. 7917) told
me they can configure Digital Venturis and Celebris, and preload
NeXTSTEP for customers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Message-ID: <1995Feb7.095925.17862@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1995Feb7.090258.17666@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:59:25 GMT
In article <1995Feb7.090258.17666@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul_Lynch@plsys.com
(Paul Lynch) writes:
> Another useful command using open that I find myself using quite often
is:
>
> find /usr/spool/news/comp/sys/next -exec
> grep -li "farcast" {} \; -exec xargs open
>
> This can be optimised, of course.
I usually find that anything that is wrong can always be optimised. This
version might actually work:
find /usr/spool/news/comp/sys/next -exec grep -li "farcast" {} \;
| xargs open
Paul
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Improvement in 3.3: CDPlayer.app
Date: 1 Feb 1995 18:04:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3goifn$5ig@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <3gliub$13ot@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Peter Karbaliotis writes
) They also seem to have broken the Volume default. Whenever I
) launch CDPlayer the volume is knocked down by exactly 155.
) [...]
) Has anyone else seen this?
Yes. Annoying, isn't it?
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: wing@netcom.com (Ben Wing)
Subject: Re: mini-buffer in it's own window
Message-ID: <wingD3KF3F.Gry@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D38nGL.Aru@sgc.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 06:23:39 GMT
In article <D38nGL.Aru@sgc.com>, Russell Silverman <rsilver@mtkgc.com> wrote:
|Does anyone know how to have the mini buffer in its own window ? I
|am currently using epoch which is set up this way, any ideas ??
You can't currently do this in XEmacs. This feature will be present in
19.13 (and possibly in 19.12, but that's not looking so likely at this
point).
ben
--
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more painful than the risk it took to blossom." -- Anais Nin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:02:58 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Feb7.090258.17666@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma) writes:
> [[ Wassim M. Jabi's original post appears after my .sig for anyone
> who missed it ]]
> In .cshrc I added the TROFF environment variable:
>
> setenv TROFF "ptroff -t"
>
> The "ptroff -t" sends data to standard output.
> The TROFF variable is used by "man -t"
>
> In my Apps directory I added a text file, I
> named it "psman". It contains two lines:
>
> man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
> open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
>
I have the equivalent of this loaded as a Terminal service:
/usr/bin/tbl %s| /usr/bin/eqn |ptroff -t -sA4 -man |/usr/bin/open
Another useful command using open that I find myself using quite often is:
find /usr/spool/news/comp/sys/next -exec
grep -li "farcast" {} \; -exec xargs open
This can be optimised, of course.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: building pine3.91 for m68k
Date: 7 Feb 1995 15:29:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502072128.AA19092@alleg.EDU>
I tried.
I failed.
I ask for your help.
I even read the README and tried compiling it myself.... and it looks
ok, but then there's no pine.... it compiles everything else OK but
not pine..... this makes me sad. If you can help, please do
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Phantom dock
Date: 7 Feb 1995 13:53:50 -0800
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Message-ID: <3h8q5e$dm@triton.ucsd.edu>
A few times now I have been haunted by what seems to be a phantom dock
position, or maybe a phantom Icon. NS3.2 on black hardware.
With one position of the Dock empty, I find that I can not drag a
selected App. from the Browser to the Dock and have it snap into
place. The icon just sits wherever it was dragged, and besides that it
has a title under it, unlike normal behavior of docked icons.
In fact, I can drag the icon anywhere on the screen, and it will just
sit there, and then I can't get rid of it, except by going through a
rain dance: Log out, log in on Console (no Workspace.app), change the
name of the App. folder so it doesn't match the internal name of the
real App., log out of Console, log in as myself. Now the icon is
gone. I can then rename the App. folder to its proper name, and
things have returned to normal.
Anybody have some ideas about what's happening?
carl
--
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clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: building pine3.91 for m68k
Date: 7 Feb 1995 21:54:54 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h8q7e$j8j@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <9502072128.AA19092@alleg.EDU>
In article <9502072128.AA19092@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
writes:
> I even read the README and tried compiling it myself.... and it looks
> ok, but then there's no pine.... it compiles everything else OK but
> not pine..... this makes me sad. If you can help, please do
>
Maybe this is the coward's way out, but there's a pre-compiled version
for M68K at:
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3
Date: 7 Feb 1995 22:38:31 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully installed
CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it refuses to work on 3.3.
It always says I don't have 'encryption' installed.
Anybody have it working on 3.3?
- Steve
--
==================================================================
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Department of Computer Science |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 8 Feb 1995 02:10:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3h996g$jds@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU>
In article <9502052204.AA12334@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma) writes:
> ...
> open -a Edit -unhide
> man $1 | col -b | openfile
>
Yet another way to get man pages in Edit or your favorite RTF editor (with
Italic and Bold attributes preserved) is to use the following script:
#!/bin/sh
man $1 | cat2rtf -i | open
I called this one "rtfman" and installed it in my Apps directory,
and rehashed.
So now, all I have to do is issue the command:
myhost% rtfman which
and the "which" man page shows up in Edit instead of "more" in the shell.
This obviously assumes that you were able to compile for your machine
cat2rtf which is available in source form in the ManOpen.app
which is available from:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspa
ce/ManOpen.1.1.s.tar.gz
Here is what I did after unpacking ManOpen:
yourhost% cd ManOpen.app
yourhost% cp cat2rtf.c.flex /tmp/cat2rtf.c
yourhost% cd /tmp
yourhost% cc -O -g -arch i386 -arch m68k -o cat2rtf cat2rtf.c
yourhost% cp /tmp/cat2rtf /usr/local/bin/cat2rtf
I can supply an easily compilable cat2rtf.c or a compiled-MAB version to
anyone who asks.
Happy Computing!
---
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Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: connecting two windows graphically
Date: 8 Feb 1995 10:13:36 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3ha5gg$ek8@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hallo,
I have the following problem:
I want to connect 2 windows in my application just like InterfaceBuilder
does connect his instances graphically with their target
instances/outlets. In particular, I want to click on a window in a special
mouse mode (no problem to registrate this with a mouseDown-method), then
draw a black frame around this window (or its title bar), and then - when
the user drags to another window, draw the connection graphically by a
black (arrow) line, and then, when the target window is selected by a
MouseUp-event, draw a black frame around the target window (or its title
bar)
It would also be a solution if the black connection line between the two
windows appears AFTER the target window has been selected.
Any pointers to example (PS) code. ideas, ftp server
are welcome
(Do not worry: I am not trying to reprogram IB - the original one is good
enough)
Thanks in advance.
Robert
--
Robert Mueller Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation, Universitaetskliniken Mainz
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
From: whs@harvardnet.com (Bill Southworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does ifconfig support alias option?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 05:17:21 GMT
Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3h9k51$15g@remus.ultranet.com>
Could someone running 3.3 check to see if the ifconfig command supports
the alias option. There's a scheme that I just saw posted for making an
http server respond for multiple domains that depends on this feature. We
haven't upgraded to 3.3 yet so I don't have a way to check to see if this
works.
--
Bill Southworth
whs@harvardnet.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tin for NeXT
Date: 7 Feb 1995 14:54:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502072053.AA16515@alleg.EDU>
anyone know where I can get the latest version of tin for NeXT (and a
manpage?) Just found out I will need to be able to read news through
shell connections sometimes.
any help appreciated
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan)
Subject: Obtaining ANI from a PBX using ISDN
Message-ID: <D3out3.492@ets.com>
Sender: mikel@ets.com (Mike Lokan)
Organization: ETS, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:53:26 GMT
Hello,
Has anyone out there either developed, or know of someone who has
developed a server to obtain the automatic number identifier (ANI) from a
PBX via ISDN? I'm currently working on the initial stages of a project to
accomplish just that. The purpose is to be able to route calls and
identify customers based on the ANI.
Thank you in advance.
Mike Lokan
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Setting up X-windows, need mwm
Date: 8 Feb 1995 14:38:58 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3h9eci$am3@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc
>Hi -
>
> I have a Big Green CD with X on it, several window managers but
>not mwm. I need to be able to run some Motif applications on a remote
>machine over a SLIP connection and am wondering if there is a public
>domain window manager that will let me do it? Can anyone offer some
>tips in setting this up? Am willing to pay $$ if no public domain
>solution available. Thanks in advance for the info.
>
>Rich
Public domain Motif, or mwm specifically? Surely you jest!
Motif is commercial software.
But, just what are you trying to do? The window manager has nothing to
do with running X clients - it simply provides management services to
the user (hence the name). Thus, without a window manager, you can't
move windows, or reduce them to icons, etc., but you can still run
applications just fine.
The mwm program is a window manager that implements and enforces the
user interface management policy defined in the Motif specification.
There is nothing special about it, and it is not required before you
can run Motif applications.
If you are having trouble running these Motif clients, I'd suggest that
your problem isn't related to the window manager. If you haven't tried
running them yet, do so and see what happens.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam
From: kamau@BORGcube.connectus.com (Kamau Wanguhu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WTB: N.S. 3.2 for Intel User Only
Date: 7 Feb 1995 07:48:20 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h78k4$fhd@diamond.sierra.net>
If you have a copy of NSFIP 3.2 I would be interested in buying it for the
right price. Please send mail with price wanted.
--
=====================================================================
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5270 Neil Road kamau@BORGcube.com
Reno, NV 89502-2484 kamau@connectus.com
Telephone: 1.702.686.1144 (o o) kamau@BORGcube.sac.ca.us
FAX: 1.702.686.1299 -----ooO-(_)-Ooo-----
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP: how install Mac font for NeXT?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 18:30:49 GMT
Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon
Message-ID: <3hb2kp$a60@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
Bonjour!!!
I've downloaded a McIntosh font "sonata.sit" from site (ftp.funet.fi), but could not install it sucessfully for my NeXT(040/NS3.2).
Merci beaucoup for any info.
K. SHIM
--
Kwangbo SHIM
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From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
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Subject: Where is the Next-In-Line magazine?
Date: 9 Feb 1995 00:01:23 GMT
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Hello!
Where can I find the Next-In-Line magazine?
Merci d'avance!
K. SHIM
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Subject: Esperanto Font ?
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ps -> eps ?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 21:25:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
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James Strohschein writes
> Hi
>
> How does one convert ps files to eps files - no NeXT app seems to allow
> this. I have some ps files I'd like to import into a Diagram! document.
>
> Even if there's no simple solution, I suppose it's possible to convert
> the format by editing the ps file manually?
Assuming the .ps file is a one page thingy, you can *generally* get it to
behave like EPS by just getting the bounding box right. In fact, I
occasionally do "DTP" using Edit or WriteNow and Diagram, by making some
text, printing it to a file, hacking the BB, and then importing it to
Diagram for annotation Greg: I know! I know! I should by PasteUp,
but.....)
There is actually a pretty good discussion of this in the NeXT-TeX manual
(if you have TeX installed) on pages 23-24 (if you don't have TeX
installed send me a note and I'll nextmail you those pages), but you can
probably figure it out with a little hacking, or I can send you some
examples.
So just see to it that you save each pavge of the .ps file separately,
then hack the Bounding Box to get it right and rename it .eps.
Hope this helps --- Tom
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From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Phantom dock
Date: 9 Feb 1995 08:27:08 -0800
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
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In article <3h8q5e$dm@triton.ucsd.edu> cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) writes:
>A few times now I have been haunted by what seems to be a phantom dock
>position, or maybe a phantom Icon. NS3.2 on black hardware.
>
>With one position of the Dock empty, I find that I can not drag a
>selected App. from the Browser to the Dock and have it snap into
>place. The icon just sits wherever it was dragged, and besides that it
>has a title under it, unlike normal behavior of docked icons.
Thanks to various people who pointed out to me that this was reasonable
behavior if MonsterShelf or Fiend was running. I am using GTools.app
mainly for the neat Eyes that follow the cursor, and I forgot that it
also started up MonsterShelf.
Again, thanks to
ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Howland_Royce@pcp.ca
leif@pattern.rmNUG.ORG
carl
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From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 6 Feb 1995 13:24:54 -0600
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
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References: <9502052044.AA09706@alleg.EDU> <3h4ucd$s33@news.tuwien.ac.at>
One other nice feature of the info-zip version is the 'zipsplit' utility.
This little gem will split a .zip file into several smaller files, the
max size of which you can specify on the command line. It will even
build an index of the files.
The only drawback is that if one of the file's compressed size is larger
than you split-to size, it won't work. I'm not positive of this -- it
just seems like I tried it once and got no output. You should try it for
yourself.
Then again, you could always leave this to the WorkSpace to do.
Trey
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From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ? Compilation Time Benchmarks for various archs
Date: 7 Feb 1995 09:49:12 -0600
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
Message-ID: <3h84po$1ja@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com>
References: <D3LxzD.5EB@ilink.de>
Eike Dierks (eike@ilink.de) wrote:
: I would like to get some benchmarks on compilation time when done on the
: various platforms. I.e how much faster is a compile on a HPPA, Pentium (or
: Sparc ?) system compared to a 25MHz NeXT.
: Background: Does it make sense to install a compile server to speed up
: development ? If so what is the fastest machine available and which
: machine does offer the best price/performance ratio.
: Some points that should be considered to make things compareable
: - the target architecure for which code gets generated should be the
: same for all compiles
: - the filesystem should be local as I'm interested in compile
: performance not NFS performance
: - the machine should be idle except for the compile done
: - please use the time command and include full output
: - please include the type of harddisk that you're using as this may also
: have a severe impact
: Thanks for your help
: Eike
Compile servers certainly speed things up around here. A Pentium with 32
MB RAM blows away a 25MHz slab with only 20MB. I would propose a
compilation benchmark based on a complete make of the current MiscKit.
There, now you can kill two birds with one 'Build'.
Trey
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From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Moving NeXT files to IBM
Date: 9 Feb 1995 08:08:24 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3hbbs8$brt@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
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luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
>I have to assist in the transport of a huge amount of files
>(WordPerfect files, for the most part) from NeXTStep to some IBM/DOS
>machine (the specs of which I will not know until later).
>I need to know how to best compress the files/folders to be put on
>disks. I have Opener.app -- what type of compression works with
>IBM/DOS?? Is there anything like "tar" for IBM/DOS or does each file
>have to be compressed on its own?
>Can I change my Workspace compress (menu option) to use a IBM/DOS
>form of compression?
>ANY info greatly appreciated
>TjL
>--
>Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
>NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
>Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
>If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Find a copy of a ZIP program for UNIX and use that. The ZIP format,
devised by Phil Katz, is probably the most common DOS compression
format. There are a number of PD zip and unzip utilities, and the GNU
distribution includes GZIP/GUNZIP. PKZip, Phil Katz's product, is
also available under various UNIX flavours, but I doubt that NEXTSTEP
is one of them.
You might also want to hunt around for a PD version of tar and compress
for DOS. I have binaries of these, and have successfully transferred
stuff from AIX and SunOS to DOS with them.
The GNU stuff is probably your best bet, but if you can't find anything,
email me. I think I have a copy of a PD ANSI C zip program floating
around somewhere, or I could send you the tar/compress binaries.
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Date: 9 Feb 1995 22:29:01 GMT
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From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: service for saving ASCII ????
Message-ID: <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 08:00:33 GMT
Hi all,
I like the edit service which allows me to save marked text right out of the
app. The only annoying thing is that it wants to save in RTF, not in plain
ASCII. BTW, changing Edit.app's preferences to start which ASCII text is no
help either.
Since I don't want the text to be saved in RTF (ever tried to uudecode RTF
documents ;-) I would find a service which allows me to save marked text in
ASCII very helpful.
Is there such a thing out there somewhere ?? Or can this be done quite easily
??
thanks,
-dirk
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: ? Compilation Time Benchmarks for various archs
Organization: P & L Systems
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 03:24:09 +0000
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In article <3h84po$1ja@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey
McClendon) writes:
> Eike Dierks (eike@ilink.de) wrote:
> : I would like to get some benchmarks on compilation time when done on
the
> : various platforms. I.e how much faster is a compile on a HPPA, Pentium
(or
> : Sparc ?) system compared to a 25MHz NeXT.
>
> : Background: Does it make sense to install a compile server to speed up
> : development ? If so what is the fastest machine available and which
> : machine does offer the best price/performance ratio.
>
> Compile servers certainly speed things up around here. A Pentium with 32
> MB RAM blows away a 25MHz slab with only 20MB. I would propose a
> compilation benchmark based on a complete make of the current MiscKit.
> There, now you can kill two birds with one 'Build'.
We did a number of tests with a variety of Intel and HP machines. Very
roughly, times were within two minutes of each other for a 30 minute
build. All machines had 32 to 64 Mb RAM; some were IDE, other SCSI disks;
and some used fast Ethernet cards, others Intel EtherExpress. The only
factor that made a difference was network or local storage (which reduced
the time to approx 15 minutes).
I believe that if we had tested against machines using much less RAM, that
would have had an impact.
Paul
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: service for saving ASCII ????
Date: 10 Feb 1995 13:14:35 GMT
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In article <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de> dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
writes:
>I would find a service which allows me to save marked text in
> ASCII very helpful.
> Is there such a thing out there somewhere ?? Or can this be done quite
easily
Tickle Services has this capability.
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From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 9 Feb 1995 10:26:24 GMT
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In article <3h54l2$kvl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) writes:
}~ Timothy J Luoma writes
}~ > I am confused (not a new experience for me, just a recurring one)
[snip]
}~ Was that a single file, or multiple files? If it was a single file,
}~ the difference could probably be attributable to the tar overhead
}~
}~ If multiple files, could it be that .zip handles them with less
}~ overhead than tar?
There are files for which lha (also in Opener.app distribution)
will do best, many extremely small files, usually. This is because
of the smaller headers. Zip (or PKZIP) does quite well and uses the same
compression algorithm as gzip (check the gzip documentation, Paul Katz
was a developer on gzip)...
I don't recall that zip knows about sparse files.
tar.gz (or .tgz as is becoming more popular) compresses the
archive directory entries, thus when MANY files are being
archived, generally .tgz is smaller than .zip
BOTH get a signficant increase in compression with the "-9" flag.
gnutar -cf - filelist | gzip -c9 > files.tgz
zip -ory9 files.zip filelist
are ROUGHLY equivalent.... as are
gnutar -xvzf files.tgz
unzip -Uo files.zip
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ps <-> eps ?
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:28:03 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.792509283@coricopat>
References: <3hb8i8$5l@agate.berkeley.edu> <3hfn79$b3i@aragorn.unibe.ch>
willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) writes:
>Now that the question 'ps -> eps' is solved, we have to face the
>question the other way round :-)
>`lpr file.eps` won't print. Printing from Preview is fine. Yet I
>wondered whether there is a tool to convert an eps to a ps in the
>shell, so that it can be printed from the shell as well. It would
>nice to have the eps centered on the page.
The "showpage" is missing, which is PostScript for "done, now print
the page". Append it and the file will print fine.
Chris
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From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ps -> eps ?
Date: 11 Feb 1995 10:28:49 -0600
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
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James Strohschein (james@aleph.ee.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: Hi
: How does one convert ps files to eps files - no NeXT app seems to allow
: this. I have some ps files I'd like to import into a Diagram! document.
: Even if there's no simple solution, I suppose it's possible to convert
: the format by editing the ps file manually?
: Thanks.
: ---
: James Strohschein
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: stars
If you have the $$$, you can get Tailor. It is a truly incredible program
that allows for graphically editing .ps and .eps files. You can take a
multiple page .ps file from a Mac, for example, select a part of one
page and save it as .eps. Of course Tailor runs on NEXTSTEP.
It is very useful. I believe there are demos available on ftp sites such
as ftp.cs.orst.edu
Trey
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From: karin@waldzell.physics.yale.edu (Karin Rabe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WARNING! Greg Howland/NSProducts
Date: 11 Feb 1995 14:54:00 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Message-ID: <3hij28$8o6@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Will anyone who has had difficulties dealing with
GREGORY HOWLAND
NSProducts, Cambridge, Massachusetts
in purchasing from him notebook computers running NextStep or other products,
please contact
Detective Riley of the Yale University Campus Police at (203) 432-4403
(email sent to karin@waldzell.physics.yale.edu will be printed out and
forwarded to him).
Karin Rabe
Gregory Moore
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need recommendation on inexpensive intel machine
Date: 11 Feb 1995 20:57:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <3hj8cf$uk@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
I have a NeXT slab at home where I do most of my work. My department
is going to buy a new machine for my office, and I'd like to get an
intel system on which I can run NeXTstep. The hitch is that they won't
spend a whole lot (to put it mildly) on this machine. I can do most of
the more complicated things I need to do at home, so it's the new
computer needn't be an ideal NS system (it must run Emacs and TeX and
Digital Libraian and SoftPC acceptably and it shouldn't require much
effort to get things up and running).
In short, my only options here are a fairly cheap machine that will
run NS o.k. and not having NS at the office at all. I've been away
from the intel world for several years now. What sorts of options are
there. In particular, what are the minimal (= cheapest) systems that
will run NS.
Many thanks
CS
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From: jgomezr@neptune.uucp (JL Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ETA for NS 3.3 Dev?
Date: 11 Feb 1995 22:07:40 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <3hjcfc$ocq@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Anyone know the estimated time of arrival for NS 3.3 Developer?
I was going to purchase NS 3.3 User/3.2 Dev but was told to wait
for NS 3.3 User & Dev when it comes out in late Spring.
Thanks for any wisdom out there. :)
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From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Heng-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: mounting Quantum 730MB HD inside NeXTCube
Date: 12 Feb 1995 03:36:48 GMT
Organization: HiNet
Message-ID: <3hjvog$lra@serv.hinet.net>
Hi all,
I have a NeXTCube that's got a FH Seagate inside as boot drive; need
to add another drive in the 500-1000MB range. However, I don't think
they make drives these sizes FH anymore and I will therefore need a
mounting bracket to safely position the new hard drive inside the
Cube. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks.
Additionally, I am assuming that the Quantum 730MB HD from APS would
work just fine. Any comments/experiences would be appreciated. Thank
you!
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Best regards,
Heng-Yi Lin
Fengyuan, Taiwan 420
hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (NeXTMail OK)
From: jclee@next.com (James C. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Diamond Viper Pro (Weitek P9100) VL-Bus card on 3.3?
Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:38:55 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hg4qv$jt@rosie.next.com>
Does anyone have a 3.3 machine with a Diamond Viper Pro VL-Bus (NOTE: not
PCI) card that could help me out in testing the driver? I don't have a
VL-Bus card here. Please reply by email because I don't read news that
often. Thanks!
^James
From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Heng-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: jumper setting for Seagate Elite
Date: 12 Feb 1995 08:20:21 GMT
Organization: HiNet
Message-ID: <3hkgc5$s8j@serv.hinet.net>
Hi all,
I would like to install a used Seagate Elite 1 (FH, 1.3GB) in my NeXT
cube. Where might I find out how to set the jumpers so that it works
correctly. It will be the only drive, hence the boot drive, inside
the machine.
Any pointers would be apprecaited. Thanks.
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Fengyuan, Taiwan 420
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From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Movie.app for NS/Sparc?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 14:26:32 GMT
Organization: University of Kassel - Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hnq6o$itp@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de>
Hallo
could somebody help us out with the 4-Fat compiled movie.app.
Our fastest computers are SUNs and we would rather use thees machienes
insted of our cubes for some animation we need to do, but we only have a
Moto/Intel version of this app. Unfortunately we don t have the RISC
Developer so I can t complile it...
It would be a great help if sombody could mail us this app.
Thanks in advance
Gabor
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Henschelstr. 2
34109 Kassel
Germany
E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail)
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
In-Reply-To: mra@mit.edu's message of 10 Feb 1995 22:37:02 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
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References: <3hgpqe$nfs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:10:37 GMT
> anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)?
Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes. Replace it
with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly speed things up :-)
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:07:10 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
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On 7 Feb 1995, Gary Longsine wrote:
> This reminds me...
> Another mini.app would be a similar bit-copy utility for NeXTSTEP that handles arbitrarily formated floppies and does a bit-copy.
>
> I'd also like to see loadable file systems for the following:
> Sun OS floppies
> HPUX floppies
> OS/2 floppies (It does allow HPFS formatted floppies, right?)
> OS/2 disks (HPFS on the IDE/SCSI disks in your machine)
> Linux disks
I'd like to add AmigaOS here! :)
Greetings,
Boerny
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: madon@didec29.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Emacs 4.0 broken with NS 3.3
Date: 12 Feb 1995 15:00:34 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
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I can't launch Emacs.app. I couldn't get any window, nor the menu.
The only thing I see on the console is:
Symbol's value as variable is void: menu-bar-mode
NeXTstep is not in use or not initialized
What's wrong ?
Thanks for help.
Dominik
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Date: 13 Feb 1995 11:07:09 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3ho03d$cnh@panix3.panix.com>
References: <3hgpqe$nfs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com>
In <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
>> anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)?
>Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes. Replace it
>with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly speed things up :-)
>Robert La Ferla
>HTI
I've had good luck with my HP 735/125. The 125 mHz processor with more 200
meg of RAM make it a brisk performer as compared to a TurboColor. However,
it is somewhat more money then a used TurboColor.
From: ashrafi@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Babak R Ashrafi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 12 Feb 1995 20:47:42 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Could someone please direct me to a source of information about getting an
HP Laserjet 4m running on Nextstep 3.3? Has anyone been able to make this
combination work?
Babak Ashrafi
ashrafi@mit.edu
From: dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Any GIS tools for NextStep?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 17:59:41 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ho6md$kk0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I'm wondering if anyone has compiled GRASS or other Geographic
Information Systems (GIS) programs for NextStep.
GRASS looks pretty good (esp. being free!) but the installation guide
is, well, daunting.
David A. Coyle
dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de
MPI-Kernphysik, Heidelberg, Germany.
From: clp@home.HarvardSq.com (Charles L. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Quiet (Cube) fan needed. [Ideally, self-regulating, or temp.-controlled.]
Date: 13 Feb 1995 16:33:04 GMT
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Message-ID: <3ho1k0$31m@necco.harvard.edu>
Please send rumours, pointers, etc.
I've heard a rumour of "a German one."
Thanks,
Charles
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From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: service for saving ASCII ????
In-Reply-To: dirk@cicero.ping.de's message of Thu, 9 Feb 1995 08:00:33 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb12152938@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 21:29:38 GMT
In article <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de> dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) writes:
> I like the edit service which allows me to save marked text right out
> of the app.
Try TickleServices (shareware). It provides customizable Tcl-based
services, just like Terminal services, but better in that you have
Tcl, and also do not need to run an app just to save text.
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at (Mansuet Gaisbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: speed up 25 Mhz Cube?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 09:18:46 GMT
Organization: IICM, Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MGAIS.95Feb13101846@pluto.tu-graz.ac.at>
I found a posting on speeding up an NeXT. I am also
interrested in speeding up my 68040 cube for 25Mhz
to something more powerfull. Maybe with some additional
CPU or somthing similar.
Please email, if there are some ideas.
Thanks
Gaisbauer Mansuet
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| IICM TU-Graz, Austria |
| Schieszstattgasse 4a |
| A-8020 Graz |
|-------------------------------------|
| E-mail: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at |
| Phone: ++43/316/832551-31 |
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| Dipl.Ing. Gaisbauer Mansuet Juergen |
| IICM TU-Graz, Austria |
| Schieszstattgasse 4a |
| A-8020 Graz |
|-------------------------------------|
| E-mail: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at |
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From: cetesse@ukcc.uky.edu (Chris Etesse)
Subject: Using AppleTalk module w/ NS3.3 black
I've just installed NS3.3 USer and Developer on my black slab. I then
tried to reinstall the AppleTalk module from NS3.0 but when I reboot and go
to prefernces I get an error "Couldn't load AppleTalk preferences module"
-- what am I missing here?
Thanks
-Chris
----------------------
Okay explain it again like I'm a three year old,.,,,,,
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From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: What is Emacs.app?
In-Reply-To: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu's message of 13 Feb 1995 19:47:34 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Feb14001649@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 05:16:49 GMT
>>>>> "David" == David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> writes:
David> What is Emacs.app, and how is it different from plain old
David> emacs? I tried searching for files matching "emacs" and
David> only got the usual UNIX emacs and its documentation files.
David> Does Emacs.app come with NS 3.2 (where?) or is it something
David> I'd find on an ftp server?
David> Can someone tell me what the advantages of Emacs.app are,
David> compared to plain old emacs?
David> Thanks,
David> David Finton
Emacs.app is a full and very nice implementation of gnu emacs
19.22.0 with NS replacing X windows. It has been written by
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>. Here is a desription written
by him:
"Emacs 19 for NeXTstep is a version of GNU Emacs 19 which adds support
for the NeXTstep (or NS, for short) window system while leaving most of
the core functions of Emacs 19 unchanged. As a result Emacs 19 for NS
can do anything which GNU Emacs 19 can do and is fully compatible with
all Emacs Lisp packages written for it. It supports NS on the same
level (and mostly in a very similar manner) as X is supported. In
addition Emacs 19 for NS has a number of NeXTy features which do not
have any X equivalent. The design aim was to make it look as similar
as possible to an X application to Emacs Lisp programs and to make it
look like a normal NS application to users."
If you are using the old version of emacs or if you want a very powerful
editor then I suggest you to get a copy of Emacs.app at
ftp.cs.orst.edu.
Francois Magnan
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______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: No Expo this year??
Date: 13 Feb 1995 16:43:48 GMT
Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins
Message-ID: <3ho284$m1t@ftcnews.nrcs.usda.gov>
Hi there -
I heard a vicious rumor that the expo format has changed and
that instead of having one expo in San Fran, there will now
be five smaller ones distributed around the country. Is this
true? If so, can someone provide the details - where, when,
what is covered, how much, etc.?
Thanks,
Rich
--
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What is Emacs.app?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 19:47:34 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3hod0m$7j4@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
What is Emacs.app, and how is it different from plain old emacs?
I tried searching for files matching "emacs" and only got the
usual UNIX emacs and its documentation files. Does Emacs.app come
with NS 3.2 (where?) or is it something I'd find on an ftp server?
Can someone tell me what the advantages of Emacs.app are, compared
to plain old emacs?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 13 Feb 1995 20:52:11 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
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On my ftp server everything is kept as a .tar.gz file, mostly because
this is a more common pair of utilities to have.
I have put the following script in /usr/local/bin for my users:
The net effect is that if the directroy doesn't have a corresponding zip
file, one is made. If it already exists it's updated. In either case
the source directory is deleted afterword. This seems to work very well
for users who make occasional changes to a single file in a directory.
I experimented with the different compression ratios, and found that -9
gained only a percentage or so, but increased the time by a very large
percentage. Ideally I should write a script the runs at night, and
recompresses anything packed up that day. This would give users the
fastest interactive time, and on the long haul minimize disk
space.
The exclude for .nfs files is needed when working over the network. This
was particularly a problem in testing, and I saw no reason to remove
it.
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
if (! @ARGV ) {
print "\n\tThe zipdir script will pack a directory into a zipfile, \n";
print "\tthen delete the directory. Unlike tar and compress, zipdir \n";
print "\thandles the deleting automatically. Zipdir is clever enough \n";
print "\taccept multiple directories it's command line. It will \n";
print "\tonly pack directories, ignoring any plain files on the command\n";
print "\tline. It also ignores directories that you don't own. The timestamp\n";
print "\ton the resulting zipfile will be set to same time as that of \n";
print "\tthe most recent file.\n\n";
exit;
}
foreach $DirList ( @ARGV ){
if (! -d $DirList) {
print "Skipping $DirList -- not a directory.\n";
next;
}
if (! -o $DirList) {
print "Skipping $DirList -- you don't own it.\n";
next;
}
if ( -e "$DirList.zip") {
system("/usr/local/bin/zip -muoyr6 $DirList.zip $DirList -x \*.nfs\* >> ziplist ");
}
else {
system("/usr/local/bin/zip -mory6 $DirList.zip $DirList -x \*.nfs\* >> ziplist " );
}
if ( ! $? ) {
print "Zip exit code $?\n";
}
}
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Moto Icons!
Date: 14 Feb 1995 00:55:39 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
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References: <3hb8rv$6hu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3hb8rv$6hu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
|> I know that this has been asked before, but where
|> does one find the black NeXT icon's?
One finds them on one's NeXTSTEP 3.2 CD. ;>
I'm not aware, if they are preserved on the 3.3 release. Updating them is fairly simple. Find the tiff that represents the icon you want to replace, and copy the old tiff over it (same file name.)
Many of the icons of interest are either directory tiffs, or application icon tiffs. The former can be found from a command line by cd'ing into the relavant directory and doing "ls -al" and looking for the hidden file ".dir.tiff" and ".opendir.tiff" Application icon tiffs can be found in the same way, and are called "icon.tiff"
For example, the Terminal application is:
/NextApps/Terminal.app/icon.tiff
Replacing this file with the tiff from NeXTSTEP 3.2 will restore the beautiful black icon for terminal.
To open an application as a directory in the Workspace Manager, select the app with a single click, then type: COMMAND-SHIFT-O (as in "O" for Open Sesame)
On a pc, I think the command is the left ALT key.
If you do this, then you can double-click on icon.tiff, and the previewer will open the icon and show it to you.
kinda cool.
--
/ // /// ///// /////// ///////////
/ Gary.W.Longsine@nmb.norwest.com
/ // /// ///// /////// ///////////
"I'm from outer space. I only work in Iowa."
From: celam@radiomail.net (Cliff Elam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Date: 14 Feb 1995 01:06:36 GMT
Organization: MCI Communications
Distribution: world
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References: <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla) writes:
> > anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)?
>
> Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes. Replace it
> with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly speed things up :-)
>
Well, once the installation is complete, and while the machine is running,
yes, it will be faster. I wish NEXT still made h/w. :-(
--
Cliff Elam
celam@radiomail.net (text only) <<-- always works
celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) <<-- only when I'm in the office (rare)
Airedales and polar bears!
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Date: 14 Feb 1995 10:07:01 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
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In article <3hgpqe$nfs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, mra@mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) writes:
>anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)? a
>replacement processor? a quick clock speed up? a second (parallel)
>processor? any ideas appreciated. thanks. email please.
In the immortal words of my friend Tim... "RAM!!!!" Get some more.
--
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Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
dokk@choam.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
"That's it! I need someone who will cook and clean for me. I need a wife!"
-- Catherine Stanton
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 15 Feb 1995 07:53:29 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3hsbtp$rko@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3hrlus$1hh@rosie.next.com>
In article <3hrlus$1hh@rosie.next.com>,
Mark Bessey <mark_bessey@next.com> wrote:
>In article <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
>(Babak R Ashrafi) writes:
>> Could someone please direct me to a source of information about getting
>an
>> HP Laserjet 4m running on Nextstep 3.3? Has anyone been able to make
>this
>> combination work?
>>
>> Babak Ashrafi
>> ashrafi@mit.edu
>
>Maybe you could be more specific about your problems? I use one every day
>with no problems at all...
>-Mark
>
>--
Oops, In looking back at my notes, it appears that it was the 4MP that
people where having trouble with. I had tried to assist a local NS user
that could not get reliable printing over the parallel port. Various
things where tried, including alternate parallel port drivers. It seemed a
little odd to me as my 4ML was plug and play. Several other people chimed
in at the time with 4MP war stories. Sorry for the confusion.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Screwed up again... Please help.
Date: 14 Feb 1995 15:10:30 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <3hqh56$opb@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.software ]
[ Author was David T. Wang ]
[ Posted on 12 Feb 1995 02:43:56 GMT ]
Hello world. Once again, my innate talent in completely screwing up
NeXTStep shines through, and I've once again left it in an unusable
state, so I need some help in restoring it. However, that is only part
of the story, as I am trying to write a paper for a networks class on
this topic, so any assistance that you may provide is greatly
appreciated.
This is what I am trying to do on the long term......
I started myself on a journey to explore slip/ppp/networking
in general specifically under NeXTStep. (because I happen to run this
instead of linux) at the conclusion of this, I hope to write a paper
on the topic, and maybe at the end I can write a couple of easy to
understand instructions and tips for those of us who is willing to
learn but do not fully understand the intricacies of unix/networking
etc. I am starting with a 486-66 machine with a US-Robotics v.34
modem attempting to connect to the University of Maryland comptuer
systems, which has a bank of US Robotics Courier v.34's on the other
end, I'm told. I have paid for the $20/semester option of slip, which
means that I do not get a dedicated IP address, but will instead be
dynamically allocated one, as I call up. my first step is to replace
the serialport driver with the mux driver, and that is where I am. I
started to edit the Default.table and now the system will not complete
the boot, even with config=Default !!!!! the only way I can access
the system now is to boot into single user's mode to edit the files
I've messed up, but I am afraid that I do not know what they're
supposed to look like in their default state. would someone be so kind
as to email me the four files? I belive that they are
XX/Serialport.config/Default.table
XX/Serialport.config/Instance0.table
XX/SerialMouse.config/Default.table
XX/SerialMouse.config/Instance0.table
right now, the system gets locked up right after it looks for the Bus
mouse, which does not exist. It is my guess that it then goes to look
for the serial mouse, but because I've messed up those files, it gets
all screwed up, and locks up. even alt-ctrl-num_lock won't reboot the
system. I have to hard reboot, which then requires another boot cycle
to fix the crashed FS.
Finally, as I spoke to my professor initially, one of the things that
I brought up was that simple network starter will not work without a
netowrk card installed, even though the intent was to do the "network"
through a modem. He speculated that the program "simple network
starter" may have hardcoded into it to look for the ethernet card, and
use the unique ethernet address as a basis for the system address,
even though the network connection was through the modem. could
someone inform me if this is indeed the case? and if so, why does this
need be? as far as I know Linux or other PC's or Mac's do not need a
network card for slip/ppp is this because the App was originally
ported from black hardware and all the black hardware had ethernets
built in?
any assistance you may provide in this matter is greatly
appreciated. I will attempt to reapy your kindness by writing a clear
and easy to understand paper on this topic, and maybe submit it to an
archive somewhere.
Thank you.
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP/WARP/DOS
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP/WARP/DOS
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT: anti-server mentality will hurt business
Date: 14 Feb 1995 20:39:29 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3hr4e1$7sp@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <1995Feb12.104133.5283@seer.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: ethernet interface, file systems
Paul Lynch said:
> It would be a convenience if NeXTSTEP supported larger partitions.
> However, you can mount large partitions that are served by an NFS server
> on NeXTSTEP clients, and I suppose that NeXT would argue that NeXTSTEP
> isn't a server OS.
In less than five years, with the current multimedia hype, 4-10 gigabyte
filesystems will be commonplace on the desktop. NeXTstep should adjust
its filesystem to handle it or have yet another serious
desktop flaw from their shortsided "anti-server" mentality.
The fact that NeXTstep can't handle multiple ethernet interfaces,
such that a NeXTstep machine can't act as a network gateway is
also a really annoying "anti-server" lack. I am tired of having
to administer a lone, underutilized SunOS (and soon HP-UX) machine
as a gateway, when the machine, with a little coding by NeXT, could be
active and running NeXTstep.
Chris Penrose
Center for Research in Computing and the Arts
penrose@ucsd.edu
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From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: Emacs 4.0 broken with NS 3.3
In-Reply-To: madon@didec29.epfl.ch's message of 12 Feb 1995 15:00:34 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb14095845@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <3hl7qi$df@disunms.epfl.ch>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:58:43 GMT
In article <3hl7qi$df@disunms.epfl.ch> madon@didec29.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) writes:
> I can't launch Emacs.app. I couldn't get any window, nor the menu.
> The only thing I see on the console is:
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: menu-bar-mode
> NeXTstep is not in use or not initialized
>
> What's wrong ?
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> Dominik
I am running Emacs 4.0 with 3.3 right now. I think the problem may
have to do with the Emacs delivered with 3.3, at least I had problems
launching Emacs 4.0 from the command line until I had deleted the
version that came with 3.3 (which I would have done anyway, to save
disk space).
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why is there so much used swapspace after reboot?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:34:37 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <3hrp7t$33r@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <9502142000.AA12740@alleg.edu>
In article <9502142000.AA12740@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>Sorry to be asking what I am sure is a simple question, but I've been
>using Doug Harris' "WatchSwap" and realized something. Even after a
>reboot, the swapsize is 16MB (61% capacity). Someone else I know who
>uses an Intel said his initial swap is much higher than that.
>
>Why so high?
It's desirable to have a minimal size swap table because it gets allocated
as one long file (hopefully), and will have better performance.
the file /etc/swaptab specifies this minimal file.
man swaptab gives the details. here's an example swapfile that starts out
at 20 mb and stores it in the location of /private/vm/swapfile:
/private/vm/swapfile lowat=20971520 # 20 Meg low water mark
the lowat (lowater mark) is the starting size of the swaptable.
if you swap file had grown, when you rebooted it would be reduced in size
to 20 mb.
so check your /etc/swaptab and it should have a figure of 16 mega bytes or
16777216
-nick
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Moto Icons!
Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:39:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hqfb8$46p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <3hov2b$o0c@slowhand.nmb.com>
Gary Longsine writes
> In article <3hb8rv$6hu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
writes:
> |> I know that this has been asked before, but where
> |> does one find the black NeXT icon's?
>
> One finds them on one's NeXTSTEP 3.2 CD. ;>
>
> I'm not aware, if they are preserved on the 3.3 release. Updating them is
fairly simple. Find the tiff that represents the icon you want to replace, and
copy the old tiff over it (same file name.)
>
> Many of the icons of interest are either directory tiffs, or application icon
tiffs. The former can be found from a command line by cd'ing into the relavant
directory and doing "ls -al" and looking for the hidden file ".dir.tiff" and
".opendir.tiff" Application icon tiffs can be found in the same way, and are
called "icon.tiff"
>
> For example, the Terminal application is:
> /NextApps/Terminal.app/icon.tiff
>
> Replacing this file with the tiff from NeXTSTEP 3.2 will restore the
beautiful black icon for terminal.
>
> To open an application as a directory in the Workspace Manager, select the
app with a single click, then type: COMMAND-SHIFT-O (as in "O" for Open
Sesame)
>
> On a pc, I think the command is the left ALT key.
>
> If you do this, then you can double-click on icon.tiff, and the previewer
will open the icon and show it to you.
Actually, it's not quite that simple. At least not when upgrading
from 3.0. Turns out that you have to extract the "icon.tiff" file
from the executable to replace them for Terminal.app and PrintManager.app.
It goes something like this as written by (Izumi Ohzawa):
:>
:> As for Terminal.app, do as follows to restore black app icon:
:>
:> On a 3.2 system, extract icon.tiff
:> % segedit /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -extract __ICON app icon3.2.tiff
:>
:> On a 3.3 system:
:> % su
:> # cd /NextApps/Terminal.app
:> # cp -p icon.tiff icon.tiff.orig
:> # cp -p Terminal Terminal.orig
:> # cp [path]/icon3.2.tiff ./icon.tiff
:> # segedit Terminal.orig -replace __ICON app icon.tiff -output Terminal
:>
:> Re-dock Terminal icon, if you have it on the dock.
:> Command-u and reselect Terminal.app in FileViewer.
I have also been given a shell script that does this automagically.
I can't distribute the script, but have been told that once it has
been tested a little more it will be released to the net.
Cheers.
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
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From: kenaaron@aol.com (KenAaron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OO Job Opportunities
Date: 15 Feb 1995 12:45:31 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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NeXTSTEP Developers and Consultants
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who have experience developing in an object oriented environment and can
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of customers. If you are interested in finding out more about this
opportunity or know of some one who may be interested please contact me.
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kenaaron@aol.com
415-327-8801
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Any GIS tools for NextStep?
Date: 15 Feb 1995 08:19:31 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3hsdej$kv@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <3ho6md$kk0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
David A. Coyle writes
> I'm wondering if anyone has compiled GRASS or other Geographic
> Information Systems (GIS) programs for NextStep.
We are releasing MERCATOR 1.5 in the moment. It is a full desktop-mapping
system with a lot of GIS functionality.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: lynn <lynn@infonaut.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs 4.0 broken with NS 3.3
Date: 13 Feb 1995 20:02:50 GMT
Organization: Infonaut Communication Services (801-377-9793)
Message-ID: <3hodta$7mq@infonaut.com>
References: <3hl7qi$df@disunms.epfl.ch>
madon@didec29.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) wrote:
>
> I can't launch Emacs.app. I couldn't get any window, nor the menu.
> The only thing I see on the console is:
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: menu-bar-mode
> NeXTstep is not in use or not initialized
>
> What's wrong ?
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> Dominik
As it mentions in the installation for 3.3 there is a new version
of emacs that you need to install for it to work with 3.3. Look
on the 3.3 CD (I don't remember where) for an Emacs.pkg.
+ Lynn:
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Why is there so much used swapspace after reboot?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:02:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502142000.AA12740@alleg.EDU>
Sorry to be asking what I am sure is a simple question, but I've been
using Doug Harris' "WatchSwap" and realized something. Even after a
reboot, the swapsize is 16MB (61% capacity). Someone else I know who
uses an Intel said his initial swap is much higher than that.
Why so high?
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 14 Feb 1995 00:01:08 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3hors4$92t@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>,
Babak R Ashrafi <ashrafi@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> wrote:
>Could someone please direct me to a source of information about getting an
>HP Laserjet 4m running on Nextstep 3.3? Has anyone been able to make this
>combination work?
>
>Babak Ashrafi
>ashrafi@mit.edu
I cannot speak personally, but others have had problems with the 4M.
My best suggestions are 1) run it serial (bummer) or 2) try to
turn off the automatic mode (PCL/Postscript) detection.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: Lars Immisch <limmisch@t42.ppp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: service for saving ASCII ????
Date: 15 Feb 1995 01:28:54 GMT
Organization: myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hrlcn$1di@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de>
In article <D3q3Kx.L7@cicero.ping.de> Dirk Olmes, dirk@cicero.ping.de
writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I like the edit service which allows me to save marked text right out of
the
>app. The only annoying thing is that it wants to save in RTF, not in
plain
>ASCII. BTW, changing Edit.app's preferences to start which ASCII text is
no
>help either.
>Since I don't want the text to be saved in RTF (ever tried to uudecode
RTF
>documents ;-) I would find a service which allows me to save marked text
in
>ASCII very helpful.
>Is there such a thing out there somewhere ?? Or can this be done quite
easily
>??
It's easy to do yourself. Have a look at NextDeveloper/Examples/Services
(???).
Anyway, there is a services example under NextDevoloper. It shouldn't be
more than a day of work.
From: schwett@differencengine (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 14 Feb 1995 21:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3hr7hi$cc7@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3hors4$92t@news.acns.nwu.edu>
...
>I cannot speak personally, but others have had problems with the 4M.
>My best suggestions are 1) run it serial (bummer) or 2) try to
>turn off the automatic mode (PCL/Postscript) detection.
>--
>Jerry S. Weiss
>j-weiss@nwu.edu
...
Interesting.
I can speak personally (!), and have been using my HP Laserjet 4M
without any problems at all under NS 3.2 and 3.3...
What sort of "problems" are people having?
Mark Schwettmann
mschwett@ced.berkele.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: More on CDPlayer
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb16085113@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:51:13 GMT
When I insert an audio CD, CDPlayer launches and thinks it is working,
but I hear no sound. Now NeXTanswers 1579 ("CDPlayer
Troubleshooting") tells me that:
>You can't play CD audio directly through NEXTSTEP using either the
>internal jumper-style connectors or internal SCSI connector present on
>some sound cards. Use headphones or an external amplifier with
>speakers to hear CD audio.
Unfortunately I am too dumb to understand what this means. Does it,
for instance, mean that I will not be able to hear audio when I have
the CD drive hooked up to the SCSI port, and a pair of external
(Labtec) speakers (that must have amplifiers in them) hooked up to a
Sound Blaster 16 Value? If so, what else do I need?
Grateful for any translations/interpretations,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
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From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: accessing dos partition from softpc
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.232332.6258@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:23:32 GMT
any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a hell of a
time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too helpful
help me
---
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: CDPlayer.app
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb14105851@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:58:51 GMT
I have a NeXT (Sony) CD-ROM hooked up to a PC with a SoundBlaster 16.
When I insert a audio CD, CDPlayer.app duly starts, and seems to think
it is working properly, but no sound is heard. What to do?
Also, I find sound in general to be somewhat erratic; for instance,
sometimes no sound is played when mail arrives, and so on.
Grateful for any hints,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Message-ID: <D43LI6.sF@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:56:30 GMT
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote:
>One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
>time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
> news:your.news.group.of.choice
>You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
>quick.
Alexandra.app has an option for fast-startup as well. NewsGazer takes so
long, because it requests a list of all valid newsgroups from the nntp
server when it starts.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
In-Reply-To: celam@radiomail.net's message of 14 Feb 1995 01:06:36 GMT
To: celam@radiomail.net (Cliff Elam)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Feb14190341@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> <3hovms$8ur@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 00:03:41 GMT
In article <3hovms$8ur@hermes.dna.mci.com> celam@radiomail.net (Cliff Elam) writes:
In article <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla) writes:
> > anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)?
>
> Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes. Replace it
> with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly speed things up :-)
>
Well, once the installation is complete, and while the machine is running,
yes, it will be faster. I wish NEXT still made h/w. :-(
That is debatable. For the past half year I've had two NeXT machines
sitting right next to each other on my desk -- one a Dell XPS 90, the
other a mono NeXTstation. If anything the Dell XPS 90 was more
heavily used, but during this period it didn't crash a single time (*),
while the NeXT machine crashed at least half a dozen times.
Needless to say it is also much faster at all CPU intensive tasks as
well as almost all graphics intensive task despite the fact that it
had to deal with eight time as many bit planes and 50% more pixels.
Disk performance went up somewhere between a factor of two and an
order of magnitude. Only the sound system is still inferior to that
of the slab. Installation took only a few hours, most of which time
it ran unattended.
In short, I'm a happy NS/FIP user and would (as a matter of fact
_did_) recommend to others the purchase of NS/FIP systems.
Carl Edman
(*) On second thought that is not quite true. Once the Dell crashed,
but that was while I was deliberately screwing with the kernel and I
don't really think that counts.
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: 15 Feb 1995 01:00:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
news:your.news.group.of.choice
You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
quick.
Apologies if I'm the last one to have figured this out.
--
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: waynem@dragon.achilles.net (Wayne MacLaurin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help: Black Hardware vs. IBM 1GB disk
Date: 15 Feb 1995 18:46:20 -0500
Organization: Achilles Internet Limited, Nepean, ON
Message-ID: <3hu3oc$aig@dragon.achilles.net>
G'day,
Has anybody gotten an IBM 0663L12-512 disk to work on a turbo slab ?
My system sees the disk, can format it but can't initialize it.
When I try to initialize the disk using /usr/etc/disk I get the following
errors when it tries to write the boot block:
Boot block is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? y
...r/w returned -1; expected 50176
Write of boot block 0 failed
...r/w returned -1; expected 50176
Write of boot block 1 failed
No boot blocks on disk
An examination of the disk shows:
disk> label
label information: print, write? print
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: 995MB
disk name: IBM 0663L12-512
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 2463 ntrack 13 nsect 33 rpm 3600
sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_####################################################################
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From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Heng-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: HELP: compile macps v2.3
Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:39:20 GMT
Organization: HiNet
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Greetings from Formosa!
I need to print Macintosh files via a NeXT to NeXT printer and have
grabbed from sumex-aim.stanford.edu macps v2.3, which supposed does
the job of straightening out problems with LaserPrep.
However, since upgrading to NS3.3, I can no longer compile. If some
kind soul could take a moment to compile the source (I'll NeXTMail the
.shar file to you) and send me the binary, I'll truly appreciate it.
Or, if someone's already got the binary (must be v2.3+ to work with
MacOS 7+), could you please e-mail it to me?
Thanks!
--
Best regards,
Heng-Yi Lin
Fengyuan, Taiwan 420
hlin@hntp2.hinet.net
(MIME & NeXTMail OK)
From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Heng-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: HELP: compile under NS3.3 w/o Dev3.2
Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:48:20 GMT
Organization: HiNet
Message-ID: <3huhu4$amn@serv.hinet.net>
Following up to my own call for help, and excuse me if my ignorance is
obvious:
Now that I've compressed my Dev3.0 since it does not work with NS3.3
at all, I was wondering:
1. If I don't need NeXTy things such as IB, could I still compile
(straight Unix codes) using the old 3.0 developer compiler set?
2. Failing that, what if I get the GNU compiler (gcc2.6.0.tar.gz from
ftp.cs.orst.edu)? Would that work to compile straight Unix sources?
Which files do I need to get from ~binaries/programming/? I want to
make sure before I grab the whole 6MB...
Thanks!
--
Best regards,
Heng-Yi Lin
Fengyuan, Taiwan 420
hlin@hntp2.hinet.net
(MIME & NeXTMail OK)
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Moto Icons!
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 12:23:16 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950217122053.13845I-100000@hphalle8b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3hov2b$o0c@slowhand.nmb.com> <3hqfb8$46p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3hqfb8$46p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Hello!
I don't own the original icons, as many other do, too. Would somebody be
so kind to build an archive with all the nice black icons? I'll put them
on our archive and make them available to all other via WWW/FTP.
Thanks in advance,
Boerny.
(Please send uuencoded to me, or submit it directly to
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de)
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: jcorey@unm.edu (James M Corey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression: ZIP versus tar.gz
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:01:21 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <3i172h$fcm@hydra.unm.edu>
References: <3h54l2$kvl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3hcqkg$1ab@tssnext.TotSysSoft.com> <3hogpr$1660@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: symbolic-link, long-filename,
I find that I prefer .tar.gz since I have had problems with the proper
restoring of symbolic links out of zip files. Also, I prefer gtar to
tar since it handles longer pathnames (for the compulsive directory
monger). If this is a totally ignorant post, someone please mail me.
--
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from the keycaps of: jcorey@unm.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Date: 15 Feb 1995 23:09:45 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hu1jp$dhn@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.95Feb14190341@freedom.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> celam@radiomail.net (Cliff Elam) writes:
> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
> > > anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine
> > > (ns3.0)?
> > Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes.
> > Replace it with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly
> > speed things up :-)
>
> Well, once the installation is complete, and while the machine
> is running, yes, it will be faster. I wish NEXT still made h/w. :-(
>
> That is debatable. For the past half year I've had two NeXT
> machines sitting right next to each other on my desk -- one a
> Dell XPS 90, the other a mono NeXTstation. If anything the Dell
> XPS 90 was more heavily used, but during this period it didn't
> crash a single time (*), while the NeXT machine crashed at least
> half a dozen times.
Shrug. We can trade war stories, but it's not clear what that
proves. Eclipse is a color NeXTstation that gets very heavy
use, both from me at the console and from 2-8 users who telnet
into it from around the country. It runs anonymous FTP, a
webster client, and a lily server (lily is a CMC, something
like IRC only a lot better). The lily server has somewhere
between 30 and 80 people connected to it at any one time. It
also has AFS installed on it, which implies some kernel mods.
Right now, eclipse has been up for 123 straight days. Last year,
the most common reason for eclipse crashing was that the power in
the building went out. It's longevity record is around 158 straight
days, I'm hoping to break that if we don't have a power outage in
the next month or so. I think the next scheduled power outage is
in April, so I'm cautiously optimistic I can make it. I'm tempted
to buy a UPS, just to see how long I could go if it wasn't for the
occasional power glitch.
Next to it is a DECpc XL560. I'm quite happy with it (well, except
the sound isn't as good as a NeXTstation), but it hasn't been that
reliable. It hasn't been bad either, but I don't think it's made
it more than 40 days without a reboot or a system crash. It is
not running anonymous FTP, it doesn't have people telnetting into
it, and it's not running the lily or webster servers. I do most
of my personal work on eclipse (mainly because it has AFS...).
For my money, I think the NeXTstation is doing an impressive job.
I realize that the track record for other people will be different,
but the NeXT hardware guys have done alright by me. For that
matter, the DECpc hardware guys haven't done too bad either.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: schwett@differencengine (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Strange Logout Crash, WetPaint/WM.app?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:17:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3i0itf$7g2@agate.berkeley.edu>
This is an odd one...
When I try to start WetPaint.app, the system logs out to a console
type window with a blue background, and then proceeds after a few
moments to a login panel.
An examination of the console.log reveals the following:
>Feb 16 13:43:45 differencengine syslog: NXMiniApp: Cannot get
> bootstrap port : 1102
>*** Cannot get task port of process 284 (error 5)
>Feb 16 13:43:45 Workspace[275]: Cannot make connection to
>/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/AppFinder.tool
>Feb 16 13:43:45 Workspace[275]: Cannot create tool app finder tool
Any ideas? I've replaced WetPaint.app with the original from the
distribution CD-ROM, so I doubt that is the problem.
The only unusual thing I've done lately was use segedit to replace
the NeXT icon for .tiff files with my own.
Is this a bad idea? I've checked all the owners and permissions
in WM.app, and they appear normal.
Thanks!
Mark Schwettmann
mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Is it worth upgrading to 3.3
Date: 17 Feb 1995 00:02:25 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3i0p2h$av9@castle.york.ac.uk>
We have a network of black slabs and a cube here running 3.0, also a
PC running 3.2. I was about to upgrade the whole lot to 3.3, but readiong
the posts it seems there are huge disadvantages. Is there any good reason
why I should actually got to 3.3, or would I be better just upgrading
the black hardware to 3.2 - after all the kernel has hardly chnaged and 3.3
comes with 3.2 developer anyway apparently. Can anyone give me a good reason
for going to 3.3 ?
-pete french.
NB: We don't use Apps a lot of the time, mostly the machines are just used as
UNIX workstations running a lot of vt100 windows. So don't tell me all
the wonderful features of 3.3 NeXTMail as I use /usr/ucb/mail anyway... :-)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT: anti-server mentality will hurt business
Date: 16 Feb 1995 19:38:11 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i0r5j$buh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <1995Feb12.104133.5283@seer.demon.co.uk> <3hr4e1$7sp@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: ethernet interface, file systems
Another depressing and irrelevant factoid. Even the Mac OS has a 4Gig limit.
I mean, jeez, the mac can see larger partitions...makes you wonder, no?
>Paul Lynch said:
>> It would be a convenience if NeXTSTEP supported larger partitions.
>> However, you can mount large partitions that are served by an NFS server
>> on NeXTSTEP clients, and I suppose that NeXT would argue that NeXTSTEP
>> isn't a server OS.
>In less than five years, with the current multimedia hype, 4-10 gigabyte
>filesystems will be commonplace on the desktop. NeXTstep should adjust
>its filesystem to handle it or have yet another serious
>desktop flaw from their shortsided "anti-server" mentality.
Later, John
X
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: More on CDPlayer
Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:02:23 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3i0siv$ohc@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb16085113@darwin.uchicago.edu>
This means that CD audio from the CD Rom will not go through the SCSI card
to to Sound Card. If your CD Rom has a headphone jack hook your Speakers
up to it. That should do it. If you have Line Outputs you can use a
adapter to take the RCA jacks to a head phone jack. Then plug the speakers
into that. I hope this clears things up. If not drop an E-Mail.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: steve@biostat.ucsf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 17 Feb 1995 02:41:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3i12ck$gcr@agate.berkeley.edu>
Originator: aids@stat.Berkeley.EDU
My wife just got an HP4ml and has not been able to
get it working off the parallel port of her eCesys P/90
running NS 3.2. Print jobs just line up in the queue.
The parallel port registers during bootup, but nothing
seems to get through to the printer. She's tried several
different PPD files to no avail (including one which I
sucessfully used to hook-up a 4ml to a different Intel box
running NS 3.2). Any suggestions (besides trying a serial
connection) would be appreciated.
Steve Shiboski
Dept. Epidemiology & Biostatistics
University of California, San Francisco
From: don@b62178.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it worth upgrading to 3.3
Date: 17 Feb 1995 03:04:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3i13oa$mds@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <3i0p2h$av9@castle.york.ac.uk>
In article <3i0p2h$av9@castle.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete
french) writes:
> We have a network of black slabs and a cube here running 3.0,
> also a PC running 3.2. I was about to upgrade the whole lot to
> 3.3, but readiong the posts it seems there are huge disadvantages.
[snip]
What are some of these purported disadvantages?
Thanks in advance,
don...
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From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.hp.hpux
Subject: Modem link speeds at 28.8 or greater under NS 3.3 (black/intel)
Date: 17 Feb 1995 04:52:12 GMT
Organization: STARnet, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <3i1a1s$59u@news.starnet.net>
What are some recommended configurations for modem connect link speeds of
28.8 > under NEXTSTEP 3.3 on black and or intel hardware and/or HP/UX. Preferably black since
our intel hardware frequently boots in other OS's. Right now we are running
SLIP (too lazy to install ppp since I already had slip up). What about CSLIP
and/or PPP?
We currently have the following modems to test with:
Zoom 28.8
US Robotics Sportster 28.8
Micron 28.8
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc.
Email: Neil@bMD.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.210836.878@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 21:08:36 GMT
In article <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J.
Perkins) writes:
>
> I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully
> installed CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it
> refuses to work on 3.3. It always says I don't have 'encryption'
> installed.
>
> Anybody have it working on 3.3?
>
You have to get CryptorBundle-1.2 from the common ftp-places. It works
with 3.3.
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Summary: More on CDPlayer
In-Reply-To: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu's message of Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:51:13 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb16144959@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb16085113@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 20:49:58 GMT
I wrote:
> When I insert an audio CD, CDPlayer launches and thinks it is working,
> but I hear no sound. Now NeXTanswers 1579 ("CDPlayer
> Troubleshooting") tells me that:
> >You can't play CD audio directly through NEXTSTEP using either the
> >internal jumper-style connectors or internal SCSI connector present on
> >some sound cards. Use headphones or an external amplifier with
> >speakers to hear CD audio.
> Unfortunately I am too dumb to understand what this means. Does it,
> for instance, mean that I will not be able to hear audio when I have
> the CD drive hooked up to the SCSI port, and a pair of external
> (Labtec) speakers (that must have amplifiers in them) hooked up to a
> Sound Blaster 16 Value? If so, what else do I need?
> Grateful for any translations/interpretations,
-Magnus
I received many helpful answers. Thanks! (Now if someone could
answer the harder ones I posted to *.hardware...)
Here is one correct answer:
> Yes, or rather, no. :-)
> You need to put the speakers (or headphones) into the CDROM, not into
> the Soundblaster. If you play CD audio, the sound is not transmitted
> through the SCSI cable, but simply put out on the CDROM's audio port.
> Imagine what would happen if the sound came through the SCSI cable
> into the Soundblaster, but you want to read a data CD - you would be
> listening to the enlightening tunes of a CDROM file system :-) So, you
> can only put the speaker into either the CDROM or the Soundcard, but
> not both at once.
>
> hope this clears up the smoke,
>
> Holger
> --
> Holger Hoffstaette // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
Kind of self-evident if you think about it... :) Thanks again,
-Magnus
--
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Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Message-ID: <1995Feb16.125035.926@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 16 Feb 95 12:50:34 WET
References: <3hgpqe$nfs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3hqgul$787@dragon.UU.NET>
mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) wrote:
>In article <3hgpqe$nfs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, mra@mit.edu
(Michael Raskin Andrews) writes:
>>anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine
(ns3.0)? a
>>replacement processor? a quick clock speed up? a second (parallel)
>>processor? any ideas appreciated. thanks. email please.
> In the immortal words of my friend Tim... "RAM!!!!" Get some more.
Nah! Use Microsoft DoubleSpeed ;-)
>--
>------
>Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
>Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
> dokk@choam.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
>"That's it! I need someone who will cook and clean for me. I need a
wife!"
> -- Catherine Stanton
--
Mike Davis.
miked@ittpub.nl
From: psycho@brtps10e.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: No passwords known on NeXT Station
Date: 17 Feb 1995 12:51:58 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i265e$748@brtph500.bnr.ca>
We have a b/w NeXT cube that we received with a set of manuals, but no
software. We were also told by the "donators" that nobody knew the root
password, or any other UserIDs or passwords for that matter.
What little I know about NeXT/NeXTSTEP is that it uses a Mach kernel with
a BSD-like file system. Given this, I pulled out the hard drive and tried to
mount it as a local disk on several other machines (HP-UX, FreeBSD, Linux)
all to no avail. Anybody out there have any experience doing this?
--
===============================================================================
Paul Jezioranski | STANDARD DISCLAIMER -- My opinions
psycho@bnr.ca | are shared by my employer only when
Bell-Northern Research, Inc. RTP, NC | they agree with me.
From: kjones@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Nextstep Co-Developer Enquiry
Date: 17 Feb 1995 06:11:19 GMT
Organization: Vancouver Regional FreeNet
Message-ID: <3i1em7$lu3@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
I am a programmer interested in developing commercial Nextstep
applications and would like to correspond with other Nextstep programmers
or companies interested in co-developing such applications with me.
I own a colour Nextstation system running Nextstep Developer Release 3.0
and have designed and implemented prototype applications for:
- interactive assembly & animated display of four-bar linkages.
- dynamically updated display of Unix process status.
- flat-file database maintenance & query using the IXKit.
- 3-D scene modeling using the 3DKit.
I plan to make my 3-D scene modeling application available as freeware
to the Internet once I've written the on-line help for it.
In addition to my Nextstep programming I have had eight years experience
working both as a programmer and system manager in a variety of networked
VAX/VMS environments.
Interested parties are welcome to contact me by email at:
kjones@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca
Regards,
Kieran Jones
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4m
Date: 15 Feb 1995 01:38:36 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3hrlus$1hh@rosie.next.com>
References: <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <3hls5e$ijj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Babak R Ashrafi) writes:
> Could someone please direct me to a source of information about getting
an
> HP Laserjet 4m running on Nextstep 3.3? Has anyone been able to make
this
> combination work?
>
> Babak Ashrafi
> ashrafi@mit.edu
Maybe you could be more specific about your problems? I use one every day
with no problems at all...
-Mark
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Computer, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: No Expo this year??
Date: 18 Feb 1995 13:36:04 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3i4t44$8ps@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3hvapg$2si4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3hvapg$2si4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes:
> Anyone have the details on what the situation is with the Expo? I
> understand there isn't one big Expo at San Fran anymore, but five
> small ones scattered around the country. Where? When? Agendas?
>
> Rich
The story I get is that none of these have been planned or scheduled yet.
This week they are hiring a new employee at NeXT that will be in charge of
these "shows". Word I get is that there will be more than five of them.
Steve
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: compiled receiptfilter for i386 and m68k?
Date: 18 Feb 1995 11:26:54 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502181725.AA03301@alleg.EDU>
Is there anywhere I can get a compiled version of receiptfilter for
Intel and Motorola? I don't have MiscKit and don't have enough room
to install it on my little student account, but the version I have is
only m68k and I'd like to be able to use it on the Intels that are
starting to show up around campus.
If someone has such a thing and would be willing to NeXTMail it to
me, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: f0833913@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Gopher client)
Subject: Help asked for the X on NeXT
Message-ID: <D47K9q.Aoo@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 18:20:14 GMT
Hi, there. I am not very good at NeXT, but in most cases, I could deal with
it. However, when I wanted to run the X-window simulator -- X (Big X with a
small mouse), it was real headache. I double-clicked the X, it seemed running,
then after about 20 seconds, everything was back to the situation before it
was run, remaining the same, just like never run it. I don't know why.
Then I was told I should use Xnext in the /usr/bin/X11/Xnext if I am to
run X on the monochrome stations. So I tried that, but got the error as:
Fatal server bug!
no screens found
[process exited]
I guess there is some setup or configuration I didn't do. So could some
NeXT experts and guru's help me to get X-window runing?
Thanks tons in advance.
<f0833913@unicorn.it.wsu.edu>
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: No Expo this year??
Date: 16 Feb 1995 10:52:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3hvapg$2si4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Anyone have the details on what the situation is with the Expo? I
understand there isn't one big Expo at San Fran anymore, but five
small ones scattered around the country. Where? When? Agendas?
Rich
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 18 Feb 1995 07:43:51 -0800
Organization: runner
Message-ID: <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
John Devlin (jdevlin@umich.edu) wrote:
: One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
: time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
: news:your.news.group.of.choice
: You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
: quick.
How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
for usenet news?
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Obscurely documented feature of Fiend v1.3 - toggling window tier
Date: 17 Feb 1995 09:17:44 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3i2b68$ojg@panix.com>
Hi.
Stephen Perkins just made me aware that a certain feature
of Fiend v1.3 is very obscurely documented. It is only
mentioned in the "Incompatibilities" section of the Release
Notes:
* Toggling the Fiend Dock's window tier is now performed by
alt-clicking the Fiend Dock icon, rather than from the
Preferences panel
This is, of course, just like the Workspace dock, so some
people will have discovered it by themselves, no doubt.
(This lets you have the Fiend Dock above all windows or
below them.)
Just in case you hadn't discovered it, now you know.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Boot floppy in 3.3 upgrade
Message-ID: <1995Feb19.100907.21897@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3hdg6o$p2q@triton.ucsd.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 10:09:07 GMT
In article <3hdg6o$p2q@triton.ucsd.edu> cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl
Lowenstein) writes:
> In article <3h8vr9$357@slowhand.nmb.com> longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary
Longsine) writes:
> >This reminds me...
> >Another mini.app would be a similar bit-copy utility for NeXTSTEP that
> > handles arbitrarily formated floppies and does a bit-copy.
>
> So what's wrong with dd(1) from the command line?
>
> % dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/disk_image bs=18k
> % dd if=/tmp/disk_image of=/dev/rfd0b bs=18k
>
> Just remember the rule: don't put a strange floppy disk into the drive
> until the operating system asks for it.
>
> If you want a point-and-click program, look for DiskCopyII.app, which
> wraps a nice graphic interface around something like dd(1).
>
> carl
> --
> carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
> {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu
> clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Add:
/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0b
to tell the kernel to close the device!
Cheers
Fabien
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From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WTB: A Comparable Replacement for OD Drive.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 18 Feb 1995 14:40:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3i50tk$e12@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: OD
Hi, I am not really looking to *replace* the OD. I am simply looking
for a removable media drive which I can use as an external scsi
device. Since Cannon is no longer making the ODs for the NeXT drive
I thought that it might be wise to keep the old OD for compatibility
and get another (more standard) drive for making backups and
transferring data.
If anyone has, or knows, anything about such a drive then please let
me know.
I know that the 3.5" 2.88MB Floppy drive fits the above
description. I am looking for something of comparable (or greater)
capacity as the OD drive.
Thanks,
--
Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu
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-- against yourselves!! ;)
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: watsen@netcom.com (Kent Watsen)
Subject: What CD-ROM drive to get for Black 040 slab
Message-ID: <watsenD47M8B.8GF@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 19:02:34 GMT
Sender: watsen@netcom21.netcom.com
Hello all,
I'm interested in getting an external SCSI CD-ROM drive
for my turbo color slab. I wish to use this drive to
install NS 3.2 or NS 3.3 and also for general access to
the plethora of data available of disks. Finally, I
would like to get one the is portable (ie, a generic
scsi device) and be fast.
I have searched through FAQ's but the ones I have all
seem to be outdated. They suggest procuring the NeXT
ROM drive which came out years ago...
Kent Watsen
watsen@netcom.com
From: tseg@access.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXT Step, ObjectiveC developer wanted; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:28:21 -0500
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, LTD., MD USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3hunpl$igv@access4.digex.net>
Summary: Long term contract, excellent job environment
Keywords: SS5, SONET, DMS-100
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXT Step
2+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is prefered
6+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone exerience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: mgilula@gate.net (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Recompile BackSpace for 3.3?
Date: 17 Feb 1995 18:45:06 GMT
Message-ID: <3i2qri$2762@tequesta.gate.net>
When I upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3 (Motorola), I noticed
that Backspace stopped working. Has anyone else noticed
this?
-73-
--
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mgilula@inca.gate.net el que nada busca mucho encuentra"
Co-Founder, MiamiNUG ******standard disclaimers apply********
Carpe resurrectionem mortuorum
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tiff to gif converter?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:40:30 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i0d7u$gj@news.iastate.edu>
Does anybody know of a tiff to gif converter that will preserve the alpha
of a pic?
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*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Nextstep demo for x86?
Message-ID: <D4A5B9.5tK@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <kalessinD49yHJ.48t@netcom.com> <3i90e9$al0@news.xmission.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 03:49:57 GMT
In article <3i90e9$al0@news.xmission.com>,
Kristopher Jon Magnusson <kris@monolith.thought.com> wrote:
>In article <kalessinD49yHJ.48t@netcom.com> kalessin@netcom.com (Adam)
>writes:
>> I find Nextstep and the whole idea of an OO operating system
>> interesting. How does Nextstep stack up against SOM, DSOM, and SOM][?
>> Does Nextstep merely have an OO API? Is there anywhere I can get a free
>> or very inexpensive demo of the OS? Thanks!
>>
>> - Adam
>
>There is no canned demo of NEXTSTEP available on the Net or elsewhere.
>
>To check out NEXTSTEP, you may want to attend a meeting of a NeXT users
>group near you. Or, if you are a student, you can purchase NEXTSTEP User
>and Developer for $299. Yes, it's an expensive demo, but it's better than
>buying the commercial version, which costs an order of magnitude more.
The original poster should also be prepared to spend money on upgrading
his system, since most casual-user DOS/Windows boxes might not be happy
places to run NSFIP... mainly due to insufficient amounts of memory.
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
"GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN" will be released
IMPORTANT NEWS: in Japan on March 11th, one week earlier than the
original March 18th release date.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: Re: Recompile BackSpace for 3.3?
Message-ID: <D48Mr0.Dz@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3i2qri$2762@tequesta.gate.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 08:11:23 GMT
In article <3i2qri$2762@tequesta.gate.net> mgilula@gate.net (Marshall Gilula)
writes:
: When I upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3 (Motorola), I noticed
: that Backspace stopped working. Has anyone else noticed
: this?
My BackSpace works fine under 3.3. I had no need to recompile it. Even the
extra modules which came with the Developer pack work just fine.
-dirk
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* Dirk Olmes NeXT-Club Schwerte, Germany *
* dirk@cicero.ping.de (NeXT-Mail please) *
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: compiled receiptfilter for i386 and m68k?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 13:52:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502191952.AA08441@alleg.EDU>
I wrote:
Is there anywhere I can get a compiled version of
receiptfilter for Intel and Motorola? I don't have
MiscKit and don't have enough room to install it on
my little student account, but the version I have is
only m68k and I'd like to be able to use it on the
Intels that are starting to show up around campus.
If someone has such a thing and would be willing to
NeXTMail it to me, I'd appreciate it.
I have received a copy. Thanks to all those who replied.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kalessin@netcom.com (Adam)
Subject: Nextstep demo for x86?
Message-ID: <kalessinD49yHJ.48t@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 01:22:31 GMT
Sender: kalessin@netcom12.netcom.com
I find Nextstep and the whole idea of an OO operating system
interesting. How does Nextstep stack up against SOM, DSOM, and SOM][?
Does Nextstep merely have an OO API? Is there anywhere I can get a free
or very inexpensive demo of the OS? Thanks!
- Adam
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+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Adam Megacz - kalessin@netcom.com - |
| WebPage: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ka/kalessin/adam.html |
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From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:53:17 GMT
Message-ID: <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
References: <1995Feb15.232332.6258@bMD.com>
kevins@bmd.com wrote:
: any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a hell of a
: time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too helpful
: help me
There are two ways to do it.
1) From the SoftPC hard disk configuration pannel. But read the release
notes (in the on-line help) - this is the fastest way, but not only is it
not guaranteed to work if your disk (not your DOS partition) is greater than
500Mbyte, it can be downright dangerous in this case.
2) From the SoftPC FSA configuration pannel - NEXTSTEP makes the DOS
partition look like a UNIX filesystem, so you can mount it as a "network drive"
just like any other part of a UNIX filesystem. Slower, but much safer.
But then my knowlege is getting a little out of date...
Mike.
--
And remember, don't email, it's just for fun!
From: mdobsch@phantom (Matthew Dobschuetz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Bible Translations
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:34:58 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3i0ge2$sq2@kelso.abbott.com>
Keywords: Bible
Receantly I picked up a KJV Bible off the net for the NeXT. I happy with
format but not with the translation. Does anyone know where I can ftp a
copy of the RSV text? Or are there any commericial releases available of
any new translations (niv, nrsv, nkjv, etc.)
Please e-mail me at mdobsch@woodstock.abbott.com.
Thanks
From: evol@brian.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: GhostScript/djf experiences?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 11:08:42 GMT
Organization: University of Koblenz, Germany
Message-ID: <3hq2vq$bcr@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
To: dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
In-Reply-To: <3hggi2$1rn@panix.com>
In article <3hggi2$1rn@panix.com> you write:
>
>I am interested to know whether GhostScript/djf Just Work
>or if there are inordinate difficulties getting them to
>work with NS/FIP.
>
I am using ghostscript 2.6.1 for driving a nec P6 and a HP 550c. Nevertheless
the printers are used for printing special documents like colour pictures
on the HP and filling out formulars on the nec. You may run into troubles
with more complicated files. I have some TeX files which include PS figures.
Theses files will crash Ghostscript 2.61 as well as 3.12 but print fine
on the NeXT printer or HP postscript printers.
Randolf Werner
--
From: kris@monolith.thought.com (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Nextstep demo for x86?
Date: 20 Feb 1995 02:57:13 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3i90e9$al0@news.xmission.com>
References: <kalessinD49yHJ.48t@netcom.com>
In article <kalessinD49yHJ.48t@netcom.com> kalessin@netcom.com (Adam)
writes:
> I find Nextstep and the whole idea of an OO operating system
> interesting. How does Nextstep stack up against SOM, DSOM, and SOM][?
> Does Nextstep merely have an OO API? Is there anywhere I can get a free
> or very inexpensive demo of the OS? Thanks!
>
> - Adam
There is no canned demo of NEXTSTEP available on the Net or elsewhere.
To check out NEXTSTEP, you may want to attend a meeting of a NeXT users
group near you. Or, if you are a student, you can purchase NEXTSTEP User
and Developer for $299. Yes, it's an expensive demo, but it's better than
buying the commercial version, which costs an order of magnitude more.
........................kris
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kris@monolith.thought.com http://thought.com/
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Skeptical? EAT THIS EMAIL NOW.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: terminal connection... buffer?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 21:24:46 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502200324.AA28502@alleg.EDU>
I am wondering if there is something which I can run through a
terminal connection with my NeXT which will give me a line or two of
"buffer" where I can type without it being sent to the commandline,
and without it being interrupted by anything sent to the screen (echo
messages, etc)
any ideas/old programs out there anywhere?
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: emstech@jasper.music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it worth upgrading to 3.3
Date: 20 Feb 1995 15:49:42 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3iadmm$u5@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3i0p2h$av9@castle.york.ac.uk>
3.3 support network TCP/IP printers without the "problems"of certain patch.
But 3.3 brings is share of new problems, in our case mail is acting very weird.
I guess upgrading will meen more to the Intel users because it's more compatible or new beginers because seting up the LAN is made even esier.
For the Black HardWare users that don't have one of those fancy HP LaserJet 4 alike printer .. stay with 3.2
The more upgrade I get, the more I wonder about NetInfo utility. It seem to me that NI brings more pain than help.
pete french (pete@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote:
: We have a network of black slabs and a cube here running 3.0, also a
: PC running 3.2. I was about to upgrade the whole lot to 3.3, but readiong
: the posts it seems there are huge disadvantages. Is there any good reason
: why I should actually got to 3.3, or would I be better just upgrading
: the black hardware to 3.2 - after all the kernel has hardly chnaged and 3.3
: comes with 3.2 developer anyway apparently. Can anyone give me a good reason
: for going to 3.3 ?
: -pete french.
: NB: We don't use Apps a lot of the time, mostly the machines are just used as
: UNIX workstations running a lot of vt100 windows. So don't tell me all
: the wonderful features of 3.3 NeXTMail as I use /usr/ucb/mail anyway... :-)
--
Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Music Faculty, Mcgill University
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTSTEP on Pentium
Date: 20 Feb 1995 20:34:10 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3iauc2$4jt@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I am concidering buying a Pentium to run NeXTSTEP/OS2-Windows
environment. Could people let me know or point me at information
on what I need (both basic and extras) to set up a usable system.
Such things as which graphics are required, ethernet cards, scsi
cards etc. What things should I look out for and how much memory
do I need.
One specific question I have is can I access the data from the
OS2-windows partition under NeXTSTEP and vice versa. I presume the
vise-versa is not possible.
Any pointers to info on the net regarding this subject would be
helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Dave
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NMR System Manager
EMBL
Meyerhofstrasse 1,
69117 Heidelberg.
Tel: 49-6221-387554 (Work)
49-6221-387183355 (Home)
Email: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
NeXTMail: Accepted but MIME prefered.
HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: You know what we need now?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 18:45:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502200045.AA21079@alleg.EDU>
I've been noticing a number of people lately who have been
asking about being able to dial-in from their homes to the
NeXT. Perhaps this has been something I've noticed more
since the chance that I will be doing this soon has just
gone up.
Here's what I would really like to see:
1) a NeXT terminal newsreader which does all that NewsGrazer
does (sorting, using Folders, showing all the header
information). A really good one and people might be able to
stop using NewsGrazer. 'tin' just doesn't cut it.
2) a terminal version of Mail.app, capable of doing all the
same things that 3.3 can do (nested Mailboxes, MIME, read
receipts, etc). There still is no easy way to read NeXTMail
through Terminal, and there really should be. There are a
lot of people who connect to their NeXT in some other way
than sitting down and logging into the console. I realize
there are a ton of mail readers out there, but none of them
are really like Mail.app. They have their own address file,
their own folder system..... it's a real pain for anyone who
uses Mail.app to have to go between a terminal connection
and a regular console login.
I thought there were more things I'd like to see, but I
guess those are the two main ones. I really think NeXT is
doing their users and themselves a great disservice by not
having these items, especially the terminal Mail.app.
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny
College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh
6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter
3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the
question.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Moto Icons!
Date: 20 Feb 1995 22:53:52 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3ib6i0$kje@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3hov2b$o0c@slowhand.nmb.com> <3hqfb8$46p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3hqfb8$46p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote:
>
>I have also been given a shell script that does this automagically.
>I can't distribute the script, but have been told that once it has
>been tested a little more it will be released to the net.
>
I had this brief fanasty about taking this script, embeding it in some
Next specific computer virus and setting free ;-)
Jerry
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ANNOUNCE: EggTimer v0.3 available
Date: 20 Feb 1995 06:58:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3i9eio$amt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hello:
I have uploaded a new and improved version of EggTimer (MAB, Moto&Intel)
to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions/E
ggTimer.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz
It should move to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspa
ce/EggTimer.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz
I have also uploaded an EggTimer README file to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions/E
ggTimer.0.3.README
It should also move to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspa
ce/EggTimer.0.3.README
---
Here is the README file:
EggTimer.app
(v 0.3)
by
Wassim M. Jabi
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
EggTimer.app is a simple reminder application that brings up an attention
panel and (optionally) plays a sound at a user-definable interval.
Between reminders, a Progress Pie shows you how much time remains. You
can type any message you want in the Reminder panel and it will be
remembered the next time you start EggTimer.app. It is recommended that
you hide the application between reminders.
To set the interval, you can either type the number in the provided field
or use the slider until the desired amount of time appears (in minutes).
Please note that you can use real numbers with decimal points and numbers
less than one minute. The text field does NOT understand time as in
02:30. The slider outputs whole integers that range between 0 and 120
minutes.
Setting the interval to 0 (zero) disables the reminder .
The reminder will keep repeating until the interval is set to 0 and the
"OK" button is hit or until the application quits.
To reset the timer before the next reminder is due, activate the
application and reset the value in the panel.
For now, you cannot choose what sound it plays to remind you.
Progress Pie thanks to MiscKit by D. Yacktman and others.
---
New Features in 0.3:
Progress Pie.
Time left in minutes. (Can be used as a StopWatch)
Remembers Message and Delay (Uses Defaults Database).
Hides Application when requested, not automatically.
More robust :-)
---
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Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dan@chelsea (Daniel Decasper)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <D4E5tM.78B@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
References: <3ieamv$8jp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:51:21 GMT
Interesting question. Please let us know if you hear anything about
it.
-Dan
From: pchien@noc.tor.hookup.net (Chao-Ping Chien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.3 Developer price
Date: 21 Feb 1995 15:15:42 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <3id02u$m09@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Can some one tell me what's new in 3.3 developer, the upgrade price $800 US is a bit too
high for me as I am not using NeXT to make a living.
--
Chao-Ping Chien, DBA
Trimark Inv. Mgmt Inc.
Canada
pchien@trimark.com
pchien@tor.hookup.net
NeXTMail Welcome, MIME is fine too
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:41:10 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950222143954.10330E-100000@hphalle5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3ieamv$8jp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <D4E5tM.78B@eunet.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <D4E5tM.78B@eunet.ch>
On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Daniel Decasper wrote:
> Interesting question. Please let us know if you hear anything about
> it.
>
Why should there be a look and feel?
Did _anybody_ realize, that OpenStep _does not_ specifiy the GUI?
It's a layer between the OS and the API.
Best regards,
Boerny.
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 105 Sysquest + DPT 2021 ISA + NS/i 3.2 = ???
Date: 20 Feb 1995 22:23:24 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ib4os$dv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I just purchased a 105 MB syquest drive for doing backups and
other stuff but I am having troubling getting it to work. After
the workspace or BuildDisk recognize the disk and prompt for a
label it comes back with the error it was unable to write
the label. I tried both settings on the syquest disk and the
read only setting made the disk popuot before I ever got
the chance to look at it. I tried this both logged in as
root and as my little old self. I think the termination is
OK, no odd harddrive/scsi errors.
Has anyone got a syquest drive to work with a DPT card?? Is
there some magical invocation I forgot? Other than this little
problem NS seemed to handle the addition nicely.
Thanks
Jehu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
Subject: Getting back default file icons
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <D4BAv3.IqG@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 18:47:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: UCLA, Department of Electrical Engineering
Followup-To: scott@ee.ucla.edu
I have recently installed Opener.app and Emacs.app (running w/ NS 3.0)
and I was disappointed to find that they had replaced the system
default icons for *.ps and *.tex files respectively. The tex.tiff
file in the TeXview.app wrapper is still the original one so, where
do I find the icon files that the system uses to display *.ps and
*.tex files? Or is there some other way around this problem?
Thanks,
RPS
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:22:40 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
Richard,
OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
What you'll have to do is:
dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis
hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
On 18 Feb 1995 richard@runner.uucp wrote:
> How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
> to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
> for usenet news?
>
> --
> Richard
> richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
> (ok to send NeXT Mail)
>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 95 01:30:27 -0600
Subject: Re: What CD-ROM drive to get for Black 040 slab
I gots me a NEC 3XP "Plus" connected to my NeXTstation Turbo Color
It reads data at 500Fw (femtowhosits) per second; that's 3 & a third speed in
layman's terms
It comes in anemic pasty white or elegant charcoal gray
It sports the stylish & fiendishly compact scsi-II connectors
(Read: Be sure to buy a scsi-II to scsi-II cable)
Its compact size tempts you to carry it places; I cart mine home to plug it
into the kitchen stereo to wash dishes by the dulcet tones of Tori Amos,
Sylvian|Fripp, Little Jack Melody & his Young Turks, and Jane Siberry -- all
played at industrial volumes
It scsi terminates and unterminates at the flip of a switch
The entire universe of scsi addresses is a push-button away!
$400 & it's in your fists tomorrow via your favorite Mac mail-order house
Battery packs are available for those who jog or snowboard with their NeXTstep portable
Color me happy
I own a NEC 3xp
plus
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
PostScript: Daydream sees it and makes full use of it as well.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Solitaire (Klondike)?
Message-ID: <D4Doq3.7Iy@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 01:42:03 GMT
Is there a Klondike game for Intel NS that does not require a mainframe
to play? The nicest looking one (and it is very pretty) is exhausting to
play as one has to really drag those cards around. Every platform has a
nice Solitaire. Where is one for the NeXT?! Thank's...Philip
PS: Mission Critical Solitaire is fast enough but has unattractive cards (in
my opinion). But something nice that was as fast as it would be fine.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 21 Feb 1995 19:05:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3iddie$8fo@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk>
In article <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk
(Mike Moreton) writes:
> kevins@bmd.com wrote:
>
> : any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc.
>2) From the SoftPC FSA configuration pannel - NEXTSTEP makes
>the DOS partition look like a UNIX filesystem, so you can mount
>it as a "network drive" just like any other part of a UNIX
>filesystem. Slower, but much safer.
That's basically how I did it, but you don't need to use up your FSA
slot in Preferences; you can mount as many "FSA" drives as you like from
your AUTOEXEC.BAT file.
Put something like the following line in your SoftPC CONFIG.SYS file
(after the other \insignia drivers are loaded):
c:\insignia\net use d: /mounts/croehrig/quantum-dos
This assumes your DOS partition is mounted on /mounts /quantum-dos. I
do this from /etc/rc.local with:
# mount DOS partitions for croehrig
(echo dosfs) >/dev/console
(cd /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs; \
./DOS.util -m sd0 /mounts/croehrig/seagate_dos fixed writable; \
./DOS.util -m sd1 /mounts/croehrig/quantum_dos fixed writable \
) >/dev/console 2>&1
I also set permissions for the /mounts/croehrig directory so that only I
have access to my DOS partitions:
drwx------ 2 croehrig 1024 Feb 19 17:09 /mounts/croehrig/
Works like a charm and lets you use your DOS disk from both SoftPC and
native DOS, so you only need a minimal SoftPC harddisk file. In
principle you should be able to use both DOS and Windows from your DOS
drive as well and only have a REALLY minimal SoftPC harddisk file (just
AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS), but the changes to WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI to
switch between SoftPC and native DOS are nightmarish. But there are
utilities in the INSIGNIA directory to do just that, if you want to hack
with them.
SoftPC is an interesting piece of work. I've actually managed to get
Win/SoftPC to run in 800x600 mode FULL SCREEN by using the 8514 video
driver that comes with Windows instead of the SoftPC video driver.
Sheesh.
Now if only I could access my MQX-32M MIDI card from within SoftPC...
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@cs.ubc.ca)
Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Kudos to Lighthouse Design
Date: 21 Feb 1995 20:25:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3idi71$21f6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Kudos to Lighthouse Design. I recently had a minor problem with one of
their apps. Response was immediate and helpful! I have been very
impressed with the company all around. I currently have, and heavily use,
many of their applications. If you havn't checked them out, you ought to:
http://www.lighthouse.com/
Students especially! They have superb academic discounts.
No... I'm not affiliated with the company. Just another extremely
satisfied customer.
- Steve
--
============================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP key
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: wanted: email for NeXT reseller, Melbourne Australia
Date: 22 Feb 1995 08:42:01 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ietcp$ltp@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
It's for a friend there.
(this represents a major "conversion" so I'm doing most of the
legwork :) )
If you don't have an email address, postal address or fax numbers are
OK too. Or else the email for Xedoc, which is located in Melbourne,
who could no doubt get me the info I need.
Muchos gracias,
David A. Coyle
dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de
MPI-Kernphysik, Heidelberg, DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Script to help Newsgrazer with binary postings
Message-ID: <D4EH88.3Kt@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:57:44 GMT
Thought I'd post this one. It's a script that you can put into your crontab
to graze through binary newsgroups. It strips those silly
"This is not a shar file" etc. headers off, enabling NewsGrazer to
successfully decode them with the Uudecode option. NG would normally fail,
either complaining about not finding the file name or about not having created
the shar file.
The script takes the files to process as arguments. If you don't supply
any files, '*' will be assumed.
One could improve the script by putting uustrip.awk into a here-script
but I didn't bother to do it.
Note that this script is *not very nice to other users of your system*.
It works by changing the files in your /usr/spool/news directory, so it
neither works with NNTP nor is it recommended to use if a lot of people
are using your system to read news. You should use it on your personal
machine only. Quick hack. Ugly code. Consumes resources. But works well.
---------- Begin uustrip ----------
#!/bin/sh
# 19940704: uustrip - remove silly headers and footers
case $# in
0) FILES=*
;;
*) FILES=$@
;;
esac
TMPFILE=/tmp/GarbledPics.$$
$AWKDIR=~/bin # Change this to the directory where you
# put the uustrip.awk file below
# Insert more patterns here as more wrapper-programs pop up
# (as if one wasn't one too many :-).
fgrep -l 'xmitBin
self-extracting shell archive
All uuencoded parts of
post-bin
shell begin here
EndOfXBSection
' $FILES >$TMPFILE
for i in `cat $TMPFILE | sort | uniq`; do
awk -f $AWKDIR/uustrip.awk <$i >$i.tmp
mv -f $i.tmp $i
echo $i ungarbled
done
rm -f $TMPFILE
---------- End uustrip ------------
---------- Begin uustrip.awk --------
BEGIN {
Started = 0;
Ended = 0;
HeaderEnded = 0;
}
/^$/ {
HeaderEnded = 1;
print $0;
}
/BEGIN.*---/,/END.*---/ {
print $0
}
{
if (!HeaderEnded) {
print $0;
}
}
---------- End uustrip.awk --------
--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) MIME & NeXTmail
Q: I think my PC is broken.
A: Really? How can you tell?
From: rdeange809@aol.com (RDeange809)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: comm package??
Date: 19 Feb 1995 20:18:37 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3i8qld$b8q@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Anyone have any names of comm. packages available for Intel NS3.3. Would
like to use it for both modem and direct connect; with NexTStep interface
if possible.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Kudos to STONE DESIGN & XANTHUS OOE
Date: 23 Feb 1995 03:08:49 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3igu81$fun@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Being a student and an Adobe Illustrator orphan/owner, I've just taken
advantage of Stone Design's $50 "orphan-status" upgrade to Create.app. It
is my latest addition to my collection of OOE compliant applications:
OpenWrite, Questor, Graphity, Draw++, Yap++. It is amazing to be able to
link my spreadsheet to Graphity and get real-time animated/updating of 3D
"Renderman-ish" Bar charts. Equally amazing is to be able to purchase
software from different software houses and have them so nicely integrated
(through OOE). Xanthus and Stone Design ought to be commended for the
excellent collaborative work. I only wish Lighthouse Design's equally
excellent software (of which I have two) would join the OOE bandwagon.
By the way, OpenWrite 1.1(beta) is quite powerful. I just implemented all
the hierarchical styles recommended by the Graduate School for
dissertations on it. Check it out.
I have no affiliation with these companies other than being a VERY
satisfied customer. I just thought good work ought to be supported and
mentioned.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:23:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ieamv$8jp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
The following statement was included in NeXT's announcement of a port
of OpenStep to Windows 95 and NT:
"Display PostScript running under the Windows windowing system
demonstrates the ability to display OpenStep applications inside Windows
windows, alongside native Windows applications."
How does this translate to what the user sees?
Does this mean that OpenStep apps will use the Windows look-and-feel
so that an OpenStep app running under Windows will look like any other
Windows app?
Or does it mean that the NS look-and-feel will be displayed inside
Windows windows? This would certainly be confusing for users, but
translating NS menus and controls to their Windows equivalents seems like
a tough requirement for OpenStep. Of course, this would apply to any
OpenStep port, not just the Windows port.
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Want Hardware List for Intel (PostScript)
Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:26:15 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3ieasn$pis@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
I would like to get a copy of the "latest" Hardware List with PostScript
format, it seems that it's not available from NeXT FTP site or WWW.
If anybody have a copy in hand, please send it to me.
Many Thanks
Mark
( NeXTMail available )
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help needed with NeXT-> DOS transfer
Date: 21 Feb 1995 22:18:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502220417.AA27339@alleg.EDU>
I have several large directories of files which must be put on disks
to be moved to some DOS based machine in the future.
All of the files have way too long file names for DOS to handle. I
need to get them down to 8 characters (since the 3 after the . will
be "zip"). How can I do this without renaming each of the files by
hand?
I could write a simple script, but how can I be sure that it wouldn't
try to create two file names the same (since many of the files are
similar in name)?
Is there any way I could make sure that each file got a unique 8
character name? If I could make an index of what the original
filename had been and then what the new filename was, It doesn't
really matter what the filename actually is. It would be 12345678
for all I care.
has anyone else had to deal with a similar situation? if so, please help
any advice welcome
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MiniSQL DBKit Adaptor problems
Date: 23 Feb 1995 05:46:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ih7gi$l92@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Keywords: MiniSQL
Has anybody successfully used the MiniSQL DBKit adaptor (9/30/94 version
found on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de) on MiniSQL version 1.0.5? I'm
having problems logging into the database; whenever the login panel comes
up and I fill in the Database field, one of two things happens: 1) Nothing
happens, and the panel stays on the screen, or 2) the mouse ponter changes
to the spinning disc, and stays that way.
I've exported the MINERVA_DEBUG variable with all the possible debug
flags, and when I start the msqld daemon, I get the following messages:
[msqld] IP Socket is 1112
[msqld] UNIX Socket is /dev/msql
[msqld] miniSQL debug mode. Waiting for connections.
Then, when the login panel comes up, I get the following messages:
[msqld] IP Socket is 1112
[msqld] UNIX Socket is /dev/msql
[msqld] miniSQL debug mode. Waiting for connections.
[msqld] New connection received on 10
[msqld] Host = localhost
At this point, after I fill in the Database field and hit the OK button,
nothing happens and the panel stays on screen.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--Faizel
--
Faizel Dakri
faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:42:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3iguqb$e6o@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <3iguqb$e6o@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo
Parada) writes:
>
> Well, if we define window as a rectangular area on the screen then it
has
> nothing to do with the look and feel.
>
As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a look-and-feel.
But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as well
as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for other
OpenStep implementations like Windows?
My question was a general one: how will OpenStep apps look to the
user? Will the user have absolutely no idea that an app is an OpenStep
app? Will our OpenStep apps running under NS 4.x (an OpenStep-compliant
release) with their separate menu windows and various UI controls somehow
be magically converted to the look-and-feel of Windows ??, for example?
This would seem to be the better approach from a user's perspective,
but I'm not confident that we will be able to assume that our hierarchical
menu structure will be nicely converted to Windows' series of pull-down
menus across the menu bar of each window, for example. Will we need to
develop based on some lowest common functionality denominator of all
supported OpenStep host environments? Or do all the NS controls have
functional equivalents in other operating environments such that
developers won't need to be concerned, for example, with the fact that
tear-off menus aren't supported (we depend on this in our app)?
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
From: david@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (David Sinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SPEEDING UP A 33MHZ BLACK TURBOCOLOR
Date: 17 Feb 1995 15:25:28 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <3i2f58$q5t@news.halcyon.com>
References: <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> <3hovms$8ur@hermes.dna.mci.com> <CEDMAN.95Feb14190341@freedom.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
> In article <3hovms$8ur@hermes.dna.mci.com> celam@radiomail.net (Cliff Elam) writes:
> In article <RDL.95Feb13101037@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
> Ferla) writes:
> > > anyone know how to speed up a 33mhz black turbocolor machine (ns3.0)?
> >
> > Buy more memory. Kill or don't start any unwanted processes. Replace it
> > with a Dell XPS100. The last part will significantly speed things up :-)
> >
>
> Well, once the installation is complete, and while the machine is running,
> yes, it will be faster. I wish NEXT still made h/w. :-(
> That is debatable. For the past half year I've had two NeXT machines
> sitting right next to each other on my desk -- one a Dell XPS 90, the
> other a mono NeXTstation. If anything the Dell XPS 90 was more
> heavily used, but during this period it didn't crash a single time (*),
> while the NeXT machine crashed at least half a dozen times.
This is supprising. I have a mono NeXTstation running the developer version
of NS3.0, and mine has been running for the last three months without a single
crash. I've only once had to restart it, and that was due to a problem with
Soft PC professional locking the floppy drive, and not releasing it upon it's
exit.
--
F. David Sinn
david.sinn@vio.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <1995Feb22.223217.2948@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual
References: <3ieamv$8jp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:32:17 GMT
I think the paragraph, as extracted by Art Isbel, must be read as part of
the original post in comp.sys.next.announce (Subject: NeXT FY 1994 RESULTS
& OPENSTEP FOR WINDOWS - Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:18:44 -0500)
Please note the following quotes:
-"two components of OpenStep technology that have already been ported to
Windows"
-"Display PostScript running under the Windows windowing system
demonstrates the ability to display OpenStep applications inside Windows
windows [...] and demonstrates that OpenStep [...]"
To me, *demonstrates* sounds like NeXT put together a little hack that
allows remote display of NEXTSTEP apps on Windows, through their raw DPS
port. What I understand from it is that NeXT has completed one major layer
of the OpenStep port... and that it looks promising.
I say "Good News !".
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Yann LECHELLE - Edge Seeker yann@dagobah.fdn.fr | y_lechelle@effix.fr
25, rue Bosquet - Paris, France +NeXT/MIME +m68k/hppa +PS/TIFF/JPG/GIF/..
From: 00284395@cpccux0.cityu.edu.hk ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIFF and XPM
Date: 23 Feb 1995 13:14:46 GMT
Organization: City Polytechnic of Hong Kong
Message-ID: <3ii1o6$d9s@cpccux0.cphk.hk>
I am looking for large amount of TIFF and tools for convert TIFF to
XPM. If you know the answer, please send the answer to me.
Thanks
Nelson Mok
From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 23 Feb 1995 03:18:35 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3iguqb$e6o@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <D4E5tM.78B@eunet.ch>
Well, if we define window as a rectangular area on the screen then it has
nothing to do with the look and feel.
- ricardo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Help needed with NeXT-> DOS transfer
Message-ID: <D4GLEM.1KH@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us
References: <9502220417.AA27339@alleg.EDU>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:23:10 GMT
luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
>Is there any way I could make sure that each file got a unique 8
>character name? If I could make an index of what the original
>filename had been and then what the new filename was, It doesn't
>really matter what the filename actually is. It would be 12345678
>for all I care.
Oh realy, well try this script on for size (assumes non of the file names
you have are numeric :-)
---------------
#! /bin/sh
NUM=0
for i in * ; do
mv $i $NUM
NUM=`expr $NUM + 1`
done
---------------
But you may appreciate something like this though:
---------------
#! /bin/sh
for i in * ; do
case $i in
?|??|???|????|?????|??????|???????|????????)
;;
?.?|?.??|?.???|??.?|??.??|??.???|???.?|???.??|???.???)
;;
????.?|????.??|????.???|?????.?|?????.??|??????.???)
;;
??????.?|??????.??|??????.???|???????.?|???????.??|???????.???)
;;
????????.?|????????.??|????????.???)
;;
*)
name=`echo $i | dd bs=8 count=1 2>/dev/null`
# Bug, any filename shorter than 11, or with dots somewhere
# in the first 8 characters, or last 3, will fail to create
# a name acceptable to DOS.
ext=`echo $i | dd bs=1 skip=8 count=3 2>/dev/null`
if test -f $name.$ext ; then
NUM=0
while test -f $name.$NUM ; do
NUM=`expr $NUM + 1`
done
ext=$NUM
fi
mv $i $name.$ext ;;
esac
done
----------
Ciao -- Mark
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:28:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iid31$ap0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3igiq6$llc@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <3igiq6$llc@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu
(Christopher Penrose) writes:
> Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
> for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe stopped supporting
> Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe
> refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep? NeXT
> has supported Adobe's postscript products like
> no other company. What is wrong with these
> greedy, Adobe bastards?
>
It's called "market share". I'm sure there are folks at Adobe who
would like to provide NS versions of their apps, but doing so would mean a
guaranteed loss of money which most businesses won't (can't) do. To state
that NeXT has supported Adobe's products like no other company is probably
inaccurate if total $$ are the measure of support. Sure, 100% of NeXT's
operating system products result in an Adobe royalty, but 100% of a
relatively small number is probably not a major source of Adobe's income.
The solution is to work to get NS accepted by more users and then
developers like Adobe will port their apps.
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
From: un032371@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Image Software
Message-ID: <1995Feb23.093405.13467@wvnvms>
Date: 23 Feb 95 09:34:05 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing
I am looking for some Image Proccesing and maintanence software for the Next.
Any one having any info on manufactures or where i might this type of
software please send me an email.
bbaisden@mrj.com
Thanks In advance
Bryan Baisden
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 17:58:22 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3iiibu$fc9@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3igiq6$llc@network.ucsd.edu>
Christopher Penrose (penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
: for NeXTstep?
Probably because the other platforms which have the Acrobat support can
also save to a PostScript format which NeXTSTEP has built in.
: Why has Adobe stopped supporting
: Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep?
The primary reason would be the $$$...one of the original verticals
of the NeXT machine in the corporate environment was to be publishing
and graphics...Adobe was entremely interested in that and ported Illustrator
over to the NeXT environment...However, NeXT soon discovered that
Businessland (it's sole reseller) was only good at moving boxes, not at
selling technology. NeXT's technology is still leading edge, unfortunately
their marketing focus, IMHO, tends to abandon most of the people who are
responsible for the company lasting so long now - the commercial,
shrinkwrapped software developer, whose demise appears to me to be more
of a question mark now with the OpenSTEP Windows95/NT announcement of
yesterday. With not enough seats having been sold, Adobe/Lotus/Rightbrain
could not afford to maintain development teams/marketing costs/support
staff which are needed to keep the products alive.
: Why has Adobe
: refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep?
Adobe PhotoShop was, in fact, up to a beta on the NeXTSTEP platform as
I saw a late beta in 1991 or 1992 up in Washington, DC...again, if you
contact the companies mentioned above, the number of seats sold would
be the primary issue. And while some companies no longer market or sell
products to the NeXT community, many of NeXT's larger corporate users
would still rather use outdated products such as Wingz and my favorite,
Improv rather than going to the more current offerings on our platform.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <D4G5IF.G7@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950222143954.10330E-100000@hphalle5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:39:51 GMT
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950222143954.10330E-100000@hphalle5.informatik.tu-muenchen.
de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Daniel Decasper wrote:
>
> > Interesting question. Please let us know if you hear anything about
> > it.
> >
> Why should there be a look and feel?
>
> Did _anybody_ realize, that OpenStep _does not_ specifiy the GUI?
> It's a layer between the OS and the API.
>
Sorry. I guess you should read the Openstep pages again.
To really be "Openstep complient" (as far as the trademark goes) you have
to have the same look and feel as NeXTSTEP has today (several articles
stated that)
But nobody forces you to have the same look and feel....but then you are
not Openstep complient. Having the same API will nicely recompile your
Openstep code....but you are not allowed to call your underlying System
"Openstep complient".
This is as far as I remember...and I don't think it is a problem.
Aloha
Tomi
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: how to remove "H" from NIH
Date: 23 Feb 1995 15:58:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502232158.AA26762@alleg.EDU>
Is there a way to remove the hppa arch from a binary which is NIH-fat?
Specifically I have a 3fat version of tcsh and I want just Intel
and m68k. But I don't know how to remove hppa with lipo.(a
command-line method would be the best, if possible.
Thanks
TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca (David Downie)
Subject: Co-Xist vs. Cub'X-Windows?
Message-ID: <D4EoAD.KF1@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:30:12 GMT
Are there big differences between these two? Basically, I'll
just be using it to run the odd X application from OSF/1 on
NS/SPARC.
Cub'X has a more attractive edu discount so if there isn't a
lot to choose between them, I'll go for that.
---
======================================================
David Downie School of Accountancy
dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca University of Waterloo
From: mow@marsu.pilhuhn.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 105 Sysquest + DPT 2021 ISA + NS/i 3.2 = ???
Date: 23 Feb 1995 21:08:43 +0100
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <3iiq0b$fgg@marsu.pilhuhn.de>
References: <3ib4os$dv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) writes:
>Has anyone got a syquest drive to work with a DPT card?? Is
>there some magical invocation I forgot? Other than this little
>problem NS seemed to handle the addition nicely.
I had no problems with my 88 MB SyQuest and the 2021 in old 3.2 days.
My suggestion is to low-format the cartridge with the DOS DPTMGR.EXE
and the retry with Workspace->Format or /usr/etc/disk -i /dev/rsd#a.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting
mail? // mow@marsu.pilhuhn.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 22 Feb 1995 23:53:42 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3igiq6$llc@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: adobe, no loyalty
It is really amazing to me that Adobe has abandoned
NeXTstep, the only operating system with a display
postscript interface. With every copy of NeXTstep
sold, Adobe receives a royalty.
Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe stopped supporting
Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe
refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep? NeXT
has supported Adobe's postscript products like
no other company. What is wrong with these
greedy, Adobe bastards?
Chris Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rtabibia.notes@mail.zd.ziff.com (R. Tabibian)
Subject: Help! Tyring to create an internet server using NeXT
Message-ID: <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
Sender: news@zcias2.ziff.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Self
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 00:22:40 GMT
Hello:
I am trying to create a full fledged internet server using NeXTStep 3.3.
However, I am not sure where I can get all the tools that I am looking
for. Is there anyone out there that is using NeXT as their internet
server? If so I would appreciate any help in this matter.
Tools I am looking for:
HTTP Server
DNS Server
Gopher Server
NNTP Server
Thanks
Ryan
From: u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 14.4, PPP, and NXHost?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 17:06:08 -0600
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3ij4d0$lh@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Will a 14.4 K modem-to-modem, PPP, NeXT-to-NeXT connection be fast
enough for NXHosting NS apps? I suppose it would depend on exactly
what apps I'm trying to NXHost, but any general comments would be
appreciated. How about Mosaic as NXHost candidate?
-James Phelps, Director
Computer Music Studios
School of Music
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
P.S. Oh ... the modem is Practical Peripherals ... no v.42/32, if
that would matter. And the PPP is 2.2 with header compression,
VJ compression.
From: jim@chiba.tadpole.com (Jim Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Running NeXTstep via kbd
Date: 24 Feb 1995 03:47:59 GMT
Organization: Tadpole Technology, Inc., Austin, TX
Message-ID: <3ijktf$2jl@tadpole.tadpole.com>
Hi,
I'm installing NeXTstep on a Tadpole P1000 (that is not a commerical plug..),
and the install procedure isn't auto-confing the PS/2-style mouse on
the machine.
I get to the Configure.app program, but then I can't drive it via the kbd
to enable the mouse/display/SCSI controller/...
Anyone got the quick-n-dirty keyboard shortcuts for driving the GUI, or
am I stuck?
Alternatively, there should be a way to hand-load the driver(s) during
initialization, but I don't (yet) understand how to do this.
Clueless,
Jim
Jim
--
Jim Thompson jim@Tadpole.COM +1 512 219 2200
"Windows installed, press your luck to continue." !!!
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ICMP: The protocol that goes PING! (_)
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: tiff whitespace to transparent?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 16:06:44 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ifnek$6mt@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <3hu752$513@news.iastate.edu>
sela@iastate.edu writes:
>
> Does anybody know of a way that I could make the whitespace in a tiff
> transparent. For example, I use grab to grab a tiff that is on a white
> background. How can I convert that white background to a transparent
> background now that it is part of the tiff?
I've always done this by hand in Iconbuilder - if you've got anything
opther than a simple backgroudn then it's a right pain to do though.
Writing a program to load in a tiff and change all of a particular colour
to transparent shouldn't be a problem though - the tiff object is
very easy to use in normal C program (niot Apps).
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Tony Rangecroft, please mail me!
Message-ID: <D4ELpJ.DG@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 13:34:30 GMT
Tony,
The mail system at BT seems to be in disarray. I haven't been able to
get in touch with you re our prospective software deal.
see:
This report relates to your message: Subject: Re: items for sale,
Message-ID: <9502182231.AA00906@mr_ed>,
To: Tony Rangecroft <tonyr@pia.bt.co.uk>
of Sat, 18 Feb 1995 22:42:07 +0000
Your message was not delivered to tonyr@pia.bt.co.uk
for the following reason:
Unknown Address
MTA 'sunserver.pia.bt.co.uk' gives error message
<tonyr@pia.bt.co.uk>... User unknown
and
----- Transcript of session follows -----
250 bt.co.uk (tcp)... 250 Deferred
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 95 11:58:30 +0100
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Message-Id: <9502191058.AA02978@mr_ed>
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100)
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To: postmaster@bt.co.uk
So even the postmaster at BT cannot be reached, it seems.
Please contact me asap.
Yours,
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"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <D4Hz5p.GI@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: Look&Fell, Openstep
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:17:48 GMT
In article <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a
look-and-feel.
> But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as well
> as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for other
> OpenStep implementations like Windows?
No. Don't mix that.
The choice you have is to select the "Workspace Manager" you prefer.
Either launching the Openstep Workspace or the CDE-VUE-like Manager.
By no means any Openstep app will look like a CDE app !. Maybe the window
borders might...but the apps interface will always look like NeXTSTEP.
As far as I can tell the look and feel _is_ part of the Openstep spec.
What they are going to do about the menu...hmmm...??? I can't tell.
Aloha
Tomi
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Germany
From: dwright@omni.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 105 Sysquest + DPT 2021 ISA + NS/i 3.2 = ???
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:33:52 LOCAL
Organization: D & G Micro
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <dwright.4.00AF70FC@omni.voicenet.com>
References: <3ib4os$dv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
>Has anyone got a syquest drive to work with a DPT card?? Is
>there some magical invocation I forgot? Other than this little
>problem NS seemed to handle the addition nicely.
> Thanks
> Jehu
>
No, but I had some problems with a Syquest 270 and an Adaptec.
What I had to end up doing was format the drive first as a Mac File system,
and THEN format it as a NeXT File system
Darren
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TIFF and XPM
Date: 24 Feb 1995 15:36:07 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ikud7$1uj@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ii1o6$d9s@cpccux0.cphk.hk>
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In article <3ii1o6$d9s@cpccux0.cphk.hk> 00284395@cpccux0.cityu.edu.hk ()
writes:
}~
}~ I am looking for large amount of TIFF and tools for convert TIFF to
}~ XPM. If you know the answer, please send the answer to me.
}~
}~ Thanks
}~ Nelson Mok
I *think* you'll find a pnmtoxpm in the Ponzkanzer library of filters,
and I KNOW you can find a tifftop?m filter to process this in a 2-stage
pipe.
Check at ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/src/X11R4/contrib/clients/pbmplus/
ftp://ee.utah.edu/pbmplus/ppm
ftp://emx.cc.utexas.edu/pub/mnt/source/graphics/pbmplus05oct91
ftp:/n/vacuum/5/doc/man-src/unsup/
ftp://mvb.saic.com/LT92B.DIR;1/X11R4.DIR;1/CONTRIB.DIR;1/CLIENTS
DIR;1/PBMPLUS.DIR
to snatch a few from a recent archie search.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
<bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT (black) Printer
Date: 23 Feb 1995 20:31:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
A question popped into my mind today. Has anyone ever
Message-ID: <3iirbo$odo@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Along those lines, I am also wondering whether anyone has ever tried
to look at the output that the NeXT sends to the laser printer -- i.e.
if I were trying to build an interface to, say, an epson line printer, I
would take my PC parallel port output and feed it into some device that
can save the data as a file. I'd then try to figure out what the
data format was (e.g. binary, ascii, etc.).
On the other hand, NeXT could always release the hardware specs
for their old printers (along with kernal source, MO bus specs, etc.).
:) :) :)
thanks for the bandwidth,
rosie
From: mcn@guardian.EnGarde.com (Mike Neuman)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Netrek client COW1.02 available for NeXT 68k
Date: 23 Feb 1995 09:31:39 -0600
Organization: En Garde Systems--St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <3ii9or$hr8@guardian.EnGarde.com>
After some time off, I'm back! :-)
I just finished porting the latest Netrek COW (Client of Win) client to
the NeXT 68k/NS3.x. The last client I ported was the Berkeley client about
2 years ago, and it's apparently no longer INL legal. :-)
If you don't know what netrek is: Pick up the FAQs from:
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/rec.games.netrek/*
or, read rec.games.netrek.
NOTE: The client is *NOT* NeXTstep native--it *MUST* be run under an Xwindows
emulator (MouseX, co-Xist, etc...). I'm running it under the the latest
MouseX, and it works great... The client also probably will *NOT* work on a
NeXTdimension...
To get the client:
ftp://infant2.sphs.indiana.edu/pub/netrek/COW/COW-bin/COW.1.02pl2.next68k.ns3
(the filename may vary slightly)
I don't know how long it'll take the infant2 folks to move it from incoming to
the distribution directory, so if you can't find it there, it's in:
ftp://infant2.sphs.indiana.edu/pub/netrek/incoming/COW.1.02pl2.next68k.NS3.0.gz
-Mike (Guru)
mcn@EnGarde.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello)
Subject: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Message-ID: <D4JDK3.164@pages.com>
Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 03:26:26 GMT
After installing OS/2 BootManager, I successfully installed OS/2 Warp and
DOS/Windows. Then I installed NextStep 3.3. Unfortunately, after installing
NextStep, I could only boot Dos and NextStep. Has anybody successfully
installed all three on a single system?
[RANT ON]
I just plopped the old NextStep install disk in my new Micron P90 and it
auto-recognized everything. I just needed to reset the IRQ on my new EtherNet
card and things "just worked". NextStep just screams on the machine.
However, every time I boot into any of the other OSs, I get depressed. I
realize that it may take those OSs another five to ten years before they get to
where NeXTStep was three years only. And they may never be as asthetically
pleasing. In my opinion, OS/2 is far nicer to use the DOS/Windows, but it is
still not nearly as nice as NeXTStep. Sigh...
[RANT OFF]
To prevent any rumors or speculation, this is for my home machine.
Greg Kostello
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: 14.4, PPP, and NXHost?
Message-ID: <D4Hnpz.3t8@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3ij4d0$lh@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 05:10:46 GMT
In article <3ij4d0$lh@mp.cs.niu.edu>, James Phelps <u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu> wrote:
>Will a 14.4 K modem-to-modem, PPP, NeXT-to-NeXT connection be fast
>enough for NXHosting NS apps? I suppose it would depend on exactly
>what apps I'm trying to NXHost, but any general comments would be
>appreciated. How about Mosaic as NXHost candidate?
>
I've done it; it's painful. I gather that NXHosting spite the Postscript
code accross the link, which if there ar eimages involved flushes you in a big
way. I was using Installer to remove some stuff from a machine at school; it
worked, but I don't think I would want to work that way all the time. Licensing
permitting I'd grad the app and run it locally.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jrl8@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (James R Lendino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What do you think of this system?
Date: 24 Feb 1995 22:29:47 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Hello,
I am going to purchase a system to alternately run NeXTSTEP 3.3 and
DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11. Later on this year I plan to replace the DOS/Win
combination with something more robust (OS/2 Warp, Windows '95, LINUX).
I am purchasing this system to run computer music applications under
NeXTSTEP (csound, cmix, rt) and to develop software in that vein.
I will also have DOS and Windows on the system for more mundane
tasks such as MIDI sequencing, editor/librarians, word processing,
netscape, games, and so on.
I've found that PC magazines are of little help in putting together
a high-end system. I've been reading the newsgroups, calling
NeXT, calling Adaptec, and so forth. The most difficult thing is
finding components that will work with NeXTSTEP. So far I have
the following configuration in mind:
1. Asus single CPU PCI motherboard
2. Pentium CPU (haven't decided between 75/90/100)
3. 32 MB of RAM (60 ns)
4. Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 MB of VRAM
5. Adaptec 2940W fast, wide SCSI-II controller
6. 3.5" floppy drive
I am taking my Soundblaster 16 ASP SCSI-II and Roland Sound Canvas
SCC-1 sound boards, and my Toshiba 3401B SCSI CD-ROM from my
current system. I also have a Nokia Multigraph 447X 17" monitor
already. I haven't decided on a hard drive (at least 1 GB) or case
and power supply yet.
Does anyone have any recommendations for this system? It looks
like I will be spending about $3500 w/o monitor so I want to
do this properly. I appreciate any recommendations anyone can
make regarding this system. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Jamie
______
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Computer Science | i486 | Phone: (212)-853-7166
Columbia S.E.A.S. |______| Internet: jrl8@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: chuston@dudley.com (Chris Huston)
Subject: Test - Please Ignore
Message-ID: <D4IMLr.IF0@dudley.com>
Sender: news@dudley.com
Organization: D.C. Dudley & Associates, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:44:14 GMT
n'uff said
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: chuston@dudley.com (Chris Huston)
Subject: Re: latest CERT announced sendmail hole
Message-ID: <D4IoDq.Iu7@dudley.com>
Sender: news@dudley.com
Organization: D.C. Dudley & Associates, Denver, Colorado
References: <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 18:22:37 GMT
In article <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu> tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu writes:
>
> So is NeXT going to patch the hole in sendmail? Or are they going to
> blow it off like they've blown off fixing problems with maintaining
> disk hardware. It's completly _lame_ that every other damned vendor
> out there had responded to the problem, but NeXT Inc.'s name was NOT
> on the list.
This problem doesn't affect NeXT sendmail does it? The problem is with the
IDENT command which doesn't appear in Sendmail NX5.67e/NX3.0X.
> Speaking of bugs, I recently (after speaking with a owner who's
> IDE drive had developed a bad sector), found out that "reasb" only
> works on SCSI disks, Which means all the Intel folks with non-scsi
> hardware are _completly_ screwed if they get a bad block.
reasb just passes info to the drive - the drive itself takes care of
reassigning the blocks - from the reasb man page:
DESCRIPTION
This command causes a logical block on a SCSI disk drive to
be reassigned to a new location on the disk. The actual
relocation and reassignment is performed by the disk drive
(as opposed to the operating system). The algorithms used to
> In the meantime here's a nice marginally problematic bug to /bin/login that
> you can play with. Other OS's have it, many have fixed it however...
> "rlogin machine.name -l -hyour.word.here"
> will give you a login prompt that if you enter whatever text you want
> in the "your.word.here" area will put in whatever you want if you
> have an account you can login on...
got me on this one - can you explain futher?
> Maybe next time I'll post a little nastiness that'll get you root
> in under a minute... One can never tell when one chooses to blow off
> basic security support can one? Admittedly this is an ugly sordid
> little thing to do, but hey, I'm tired of crapping around hoping
better yet - mail it to bug_next@next.com or to cert@cert.org
>
> Sign me off as "very pissed".
>
> -tfs
er, uh, - ok.
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From: smcintyre@whoi.edu (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing to a NeXT printer remotely (FAQ?)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 10:01:22 -0500
Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Message-ID: <smcintyre-2502951001220001@cherrycoke.whoi.edu>
This has got to be a FAQ, but I can't find it anywhere...
How can I print to my NeXT printer from another machine, say a Sun running
Solaris 2.4? I made a queue on the sun, and the next has an entry for the
sun in /etc/hosts.lpd, but the file that was sent to Local_Printer is just
sitting there and never printing out..
Thanks,
Scott
From: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: latest CERT announced sendmail hole
Date: 24 Feb 1995 07:16:13 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
So is NeXT going to patch the hole in sendmail? Or are they going to
blow it off like they've blown off fixing problems with maintaining
disk hardware. It's completly _lame_ that every other damned vendor
out there had responded to the problem, but NeXT Inc.'s name was NOT
on the list.
Speaking of bugs, I recently (after speaking with a owner who's
IDE drive had developed a bad sector), found out that "reasb" only
works on SCSI disks, Which means all the Intel folks with non-scsi
hardware are _completly_ screwed if they get a bad block.
I'll admit, after going through alot of hell on a couple of bad sectors
on my own, I've got a personel grudge about seeing that stuff blown
off. Add to it spending a good amount of time with a number of other
folks with similar troubles & that's what one gets. Broken is Broken,
and if it don't run it's worthless however nice the features are.
But seeing a Sendamil hole go un-addressed really ticks me off. It's
irresponsible at a corperate level to leave the customer base GUESSING
if it's even vulnerable to it.
I hope they address it, and I hope the do it real soon now...
In the meantime here's a nice marginally problematic bug to /bin/login that
you can play with. Other OS's have it, many have fixed it however...
"rlogin machine.name -l -hyour.word.here"
will give you a login prompt that if you enter whatever text you want
in the "your.word.here" area will put in whatever you want if you
have an account you can login on... I don't think it's very vulnerable
to the -froot bug, if for no other reason because of the console ownership,
but it might be.
I mailed this one to NeXT awhile back, they didn't respond. It's trivial,
but violates authentication, and isn't a real charmer in my book.
Maybe next time I'll post a little nastiness that'll get you root
in under a minute... One can never tell when one chooses to blow off
basic security support can one? Admittedly this is an ugly sordid
little thing to do, but hey, I'm tired of crapping around hoping
NeXT will address basic OS issues, and have tried everything short
of outright embaressment to get them to fix things, but I draw lines
at stuff like not fixing or bothering to let users know if problems
exist in basics like sendmail. So I figure maybe flat out embaressment
will work... God only knows. To think I've reccomended NeXT's as being
more secure than SunOS in general. Now it seems I've got to amend that
with a "Except that NeXT doesn't always address bugs as fast as all the
other vendors." Thanks... Yea, I really needed the credibility of my
reccomendations to clients to BUY YOUR PRODUCT hurt in this way...
Sign me off as "very pissed".
-tfs
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From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 3.3 Developer price
Date: 24 Feb 1995 10:23:45 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ikc3h$2sv@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3id02u$m09@relay.tor.hookup.net>
pchien@noc.tor.hookup.net (Chao-Ping Chien) wrote:
>Can some one tell me what's new in 3.3 developer, the upgrade price $800 US is a bit too
>high for me as I am not using NeXT to make a living.
I guess I'm not the only one who preaches NeXT, but does not primarily make a living with this
product and am therefore having a hard time justifying $800.00 for an upgrade. My upgrade to
NS 3.3 user was not impressive, but then it only cost me $200.00.
Next Sales told me that among other things there is a new Interface Builder and of course
support for Quad MAB's.
Relative to the price of an HP or SUN workstation\with tools these prices are reasonable.
Unfortunately, I primarily use PC's and do not need to build Quad MAB's.
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net **Please NOTE these are the opinions of a person living in "LA LA LAND"
From: tg@isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sparc 5: NeXT OS 3.3 soon, or wait for OPENSTEP?
Date: 25 Feb 1995 18:59:07 GMT
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3inulr$4t1@mordred.gatech.edu>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP
I recently bought a Sparc 5 for running NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP when it becomes
available. Currently I am running Solaris 2.4 on it. Now that NeXT OS 3.3
is supposed to be available in March, I am trying to decide if I should
get NeXT OS 3.3 now or wait for OPENSTEP to become available sometime in
the future (perhaps this summer?).
I have been using NeXT cubes ever since they first became available. I
use them primarily for the applications, even though I do write a little
bit of software now and then. I intend to keep the cube for a while at
home, along with the Sun.
I would like to convert to NeXT OS 3.3 from Solaris if I can run the
following without too much of a hassle:
PPP, LaTeX2e, some WWW client.
I am also hoping for ports of some of my other favorites such as
Virtuoso. In addition, I would like MBONE since I plan to get ISDN
by the end of summer. (If ISDN doesn't support MBONE, I would at
least want to use Audiofile or something like that.)
Ideally I would like to keep the option of being able to have Solaris
and NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.
Should I get NeXT OS 3.3 now, or wait for OPENSTEP? Any advice and
suggestions are welcome.
Thank you very much.
govind
T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome.
ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net)
http://isye.gatech.edu/~tg/index.html
From: schwett@differencengine (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Date: 25 Feb 1995 23:16:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3iodol$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <D4JDK3.164@pages.com>
Greg writes...
>After installing OS/2 BootManager, I successfully installed OS/2 Warp and
>DOS/Windows. Then I installed NextStep 3.3. Unfortunately, after installing
>NextStep, I could only boot Dos and NextStep. Has anybody successfully
>installed all three on a single system?
Well, I have done so. In fact I've had Windows NT, MS-DOS, OS/2, and NeXTStep
all on the same disk, all bootable via the boot manager or System Commander
(A third party util. similar to the OS/2 boot manager.)
When NeXTStep installs, it replaces the MBR. Do you still get your boot
manager menu, or is it "n for nextstep, d for dos..." now? If it is, all
you need to do is rewrite the MBR (the easiest was is in DOS. Type
fdisk /mbr) and then set the OS/2 Boot Manager as the active partition.
That should do the trick. I don't remember if you need to run OS/2's fdisk
to specifically set the three OS' as bootable. Don't think so.
It DOES work though!
Mark
From: schwett@differencengine (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What do you think of this system?
Date: 25 Feb 1995 23:19:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
jrl8@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (James R Lendino) wrote:
>Hello,
>I am going to purchase a system to alternately run NeXTSTEP 3.3...
>1. Asus single CPU PCI motherboard
>2. Pentium CPU (haven't decided between 75/90/100)
>3. 32 MB of RAM (60 ns)
>4. Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 MB of VRAM
>5. Adaptec 2940W fast, wide SCSI-II controller
>6. 3.5" floppy drive
This configuration is very similar to mine, which works quite well (now.)
I use an AiR PCI/EISA motherboard that has a 2940W integrated. It's nice
to save a slot and the setup hassles, etc. etc. I think it runs about
$300 more than the ASUS though, which is more than a 2940W costs. A
nice board though.
Make sure the ASUS has the latest rev. of the Neptune chipset!
Good Luck,
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: Quickcam and Black HW
Keywords: quickcam digital video in
References: <3ilolf$2ck@seymour.sfu.ca>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 21:35:12 GMT
Message-ID: <D4Kryo.1Lo@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <3ilolf$2ck@seymour.sfu.ca>,
Operator <root@edie.cprost.sfu.ca> wrote:
>I am relatively new to the next world so perhaps this has been asked
>already, but is anyone working on using a quickcam with nexts? It is a
>digital video camera (CCD) available for the mac. It uses the "vdig"
>digitizer component that is part of quicktime, and a standard serial cable
>(which seems to be similar with the next) so the next question is -- could
>it work with NS?
>
>..r
>
There has been a thread on this before, but no progress has been made (to
my knowledge) on interfacing the QuickCam to NS. The problem lies in
NextTime, which doesn't have a published API, AFAIK.
I'm still offerring up my time/skills to assist in any project to build
an interface, though.
Matt
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From: wooten@arcturus.scicntr.ortn.edu (John Wooten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FTS Viewer
Date: 25 Feb 1995 16:28:27 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3inlrb$79v@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Has anyone ported an FTS file viewer to NextStep?
What about the Vista Software for manipulating FTS images?
John W. Wooten
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: aw058@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Deborah L. Chubey)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: aw058@freenet3.carleton.ca (Deborah L. Chubey)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
References: <D4Hz5p.GI@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 02:35:04 GMT
In a previous posting, Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) writes:
> In article <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
> writes:
>> As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a
> look-and-feel.
>> But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as well
>> as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for other
>> OpenStep implementations like Windows?
>
> No. Don't mix that.
> The choice you have is to select the "Workspace Manager" you prefer.
> Either launching the Openstep Workspace or the CDE-VUE-like Manager.
> By no means any Openstep app will look like a CDE app !. Maybe the window
> borders might...but the apps interface will always look like NeXTSTEP.
>
> As far as I can tell the look and feel _is_ part of the Openstep spec.
> What they are going to do about the menu...hmmm...??? I can't tell.
>
Is there really a confilit here? Remember that there is a NS menu
specific to each Apps set of windows. If you have a MSWindows app
as the current window the NS window will simply dissapear (as it normally
does in NS, only it is usually replacd by another menu in that environment).
I also recall that MSWindows apps have top level dialog boxes, remember
the MSOffice's irritating set of push-buttons in the upper right-hand
corner? (Pritty bloody arrogent for an app to break the entire GUI's
interface and make it's presence known to all other apps....but
this is MS we are talking about here.)
Full steam ahead!!!
Personally, I envision OpenStep as an all out assult against the Death-Star.
It undermines Bill's tactic of propriatary OS en Masse. Not so far back
Bill made the right call when he said software will drive the industry. More
specifically, however, its apps that will drive the industry. More specific
then that, it's "Can I get this silicon wunderBucket to do what I want
within my time and budget constraints?! ..if not ..dump it.'. This is the
achilies of Bills machine right now...the soft spot...the open exhaust port...
The OS is really overhead. Hopefully OpenStep will allow a free choice of
operating systems.
I am worried when I don't see much advertizing for OpenStep...I hope thay
don't drop the ball.
Deb.
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From: andylee@netcom.com (Andy A. Lee)
Subject: Re: What do you think of this system?
Message-ID: <andylee-2502951959490001@idtech.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 02:59:49 GMT
In article <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>, schwett@differencengine (Mark
Schwettmann) wrote:
> jrl8@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (James R Lendino) wrote:
> >Hello,
>
> >I am going to purchase a system to alternately run NeXTSTEP 3.3...
>
> >1. Asus single CPU PCI motherboard
> >2. Pentium CPU (haven't decided between 75/90/100)
> >3. 32 MB of RAM (60 ns)
> >4. Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 MB of VRAM
> >5. Adaptec 2940W fast, wide SCSI-II controller
> >6. 3.5" floppy drive
>
> This configuration is very similar to mine, which works quite well (now.)
>
> I use an AiR PCI/EISA motherboard that has a 2940W integrated. It's nice
> to save a slot and the setup hassles, etc. etc. I think it runs about
> $300 more than the ASUS though, which is more than a 2940W costs. A
> nice board though.
>
> Make sure the ASUS has the latest rev. of the Neptune chipset!
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark
Why do you want the 2940W instead of the 2940? Does it make that(sic)
much of a difference? I'm thinking about getting a similar system, but
with P5-90, Adaptec 2940, and Stealth 64 with 2 MB VRAM to save a few
bucks. Any opion is welcome...
Andy Lee
andylee@cs.ucla.edu
From: msp@metronet.com@metronet.com (Michael S. Peacock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Date: 26 Feb 1995 04:06:59 GMT
Organization: Everest Software Corp.
Message-ID: <3ioup3$3ga@feenix.metronet.com>
References: <D4JDK3.164@pages.com> <3iodol$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
In <3iodol$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>, schwett@differencengine (Mark Schwettmann) writes:
>Greg writes...
>
>>After installing OS/2 BootManager, I successfully installed OS/2 Warp and
>>DOS/Windows. Then I installed NextStep 3.3. Unfortunately, after installing
>>NextStep, I could only boot Dos and NextStep. Has anybody successfully
>>installed all three on a single system?
>
I have all three co-existing on my home machine. It's easier if you install
NS first as Warp is smart enough not to blow away the NS boot manager.
If you do it the other way around, NS will overwrite the OS/2 boot manager.
Even so, I think you can still use the NS boot manager to load OS/2.
Nextstep normally allows you to press 'n' or 'd' at boot time but it also
allows you to type in a number from 1-4 indicating the partition you wish to
boot from.
---
Michael S. Peacock Everest Software Corp.
michael@eversoft.com Ph: 214.437.7631
From: ruf@julian.uwo.ca (Godfrey Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What do you think of this system?
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 00:52:06 EST
Organization: Western Law School
Message-ID: <ruf.24.0020F3EC@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu> <andylee-2502951959490001@idtech.com>
andylee@netcom.com (Andy A. Lee) writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Why do you want the 2940W instead of the 2940? Does it make that(sic)
>much of a difference? I'm thinking about getting a similar system, but
>with P5-90, Adaptec 2940, and Stealth 64 with 2 MB VRAM to save a few
>bucks. Any opion is welcome...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The theoretical transfer rate limit to Wide SCSI is 20 Mb/s whereas the
theoretical limit to Fast SCSI is 10 Mb/s. Good Luck finding a device that
can transfer 20 Mb/s to the controller :)
_______________________________________________________________________
"Aerodynamics are for people who cannot build engines" --- Enzo Ferrari
Godfrey Cheng --------------------------------------- ruf@julian.uwo.ca
________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney)
Subject: Help with VL34 Video
Message-ID: <rfenney-250295214401@rfenney.slip.netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: FenTek
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 05:42:52 GMT
Has anyone got the VL34 from Cirrus Logic to work in anything better than
VGA?
Thanks for any help!
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
References: <D4Hz5p.GI@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 06:38:39 GMT
Message-ID: <D4LH4F.10D@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca>,
Deborah L. Chubey <aw058@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>In a previous posting, Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) writes:
>> In article <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
>> writes:
>>> As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a
>> look-and-feel.
>>> But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as well
>>> as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for other
>>> OpenStep implementations like Windows?
>>
>> No. Don't mix that.
>> The choice you have is to select the "Workspace Manager" you prefer.
>> Either launching the Openstep Workspace or the CDE-VUE-like Manager.
>> By no means any Openstep app will look like a CDE app !. Maybe the window
>> borders might...but the apps interface will always look like NeXTSTEP.
>>
>> As far as I can tell the look and feel _is_ part of the Openstep spec.
>> What they are going to do about the menu...hmmm...??? I can't tell.
>>
>
>Is there really a confilit here? Remember that there is a NS menu
>specific to each Apps set of windows. If you have a MSWindows app
>as the current window the NS window will simply dissapear (as it normally
>does in NS, only it is usually replacd by another menu in that environment).
>I also recall that MSWindows apps have top level dialog boxes, remember
>the MSOffice's irritating set of push-buttons in the upper right-hand
>corner? (Pritty bloody arrogent for an app to break the entire GUI's
>interface and make it's presence known to all other apps....but
>this is MS we are talking about here.)
>
>
>Full steam ahead!!!
>
>Personally, I envision OpenStep as an all out assult against the Death-Star.
>It undermines Bill's tactic of propriatary OS en Masse. Not so far back
>Bill made the right call when he said software will drive the industry. More
>specifically, however, its apps that will drive the industry. More specific
>then that, it's "Can I get this silicon wunderBucket to do what I want
>within my time and budget constraints?! ..if not ..dump it.'. This is the
>achilies of Bills machine right now...the soft spot...the open exhaust port...
>
>The OS is really overhead. Hopefully OpenStep will allow a free choice of
>operating systems.
>
>I am worried when I don't see much advertizing for OpenStep...I hope thay
>don't drop the ball.
>
>
>Deb.
The sad truth is that "Bill" created something that amounts to an economy
of scale... that is, Windows is so pervasive, you can't get away from it.
And, all the time, he was laughing to the bank.
We, as NeXTSTEP users, an OPENSTEP hopefuls, are screwed. Why? Mostly
because we will have a wonderful OS, but we have to pay for it.
Where does this leave us? Well, actually ,not that poorly. Because NeXT
has chosen to make Openstep a "open standard", "free" versions are
possible. From my experience of people who say "NeXT, that's cool! Let me
see it!", I see great things.
But, we still have the one, evil economy of scale to deal with... Windows.
You can't beat it. It's everywhere. Jobs knows this, and he's finally
dealing with it. I believe that this is good, mostly because it's not the
OS that makes NeXSTSTEP as good as it is.
I'm interested in comments... any?
BTW: "Steve, I belive." I'm finally understanding this thing that is
NS... ?
Matt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain ?????
Message-ID: <3ij4ua$277@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
From: mra@mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:15:22 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
i keep getting the following in /usr/adm/messages:
Feb 23 18:13:16 bink syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain
any ideas? i started getting it right after i hooked up a second external,
uninitialized disk. i got the message when running the build-disk program, and
coincidentally, my machine could not initialize successfully. any ideas? please
reply by email. thanks!
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (JesseH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP on NeXTStep/Intel
Date: 26 Feb 1995 13:27:35 GMT
Organization: Div.Cardiology, National Defense Medical Center
Message-ID: <3ipvk7$8de@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
I have got the unsupported PPP shareware and installed it successfully.
But I could never get it to work- it never upload during restart as the
readme file stated. what should I do next?
Simon Chih-L Han MB
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Div. of Cardiovascular Medicine
National Defense Medical Center
What will be the
future?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????The future is
now....................................
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sendmail
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:29:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3ij27o$3i9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello all --
In the interest of improving security on my system, I would like to move
sendmail to operating under inetd, and place a tcp wrapper around it,
providing much more control and log information.
Are there any reasons I should not do this? I noticed that one nice option
-- -q[time], which processes the queue every so many [time] -- appears to
only work when sendmail runs as a daemon. Any way I can fix this so that it
processes the queue hourly despite the fact it runs from inetd?
Thanks in advance! Please reply to here or by mail to
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu.
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | You can live only once, but
4th Year Computer Engineering | if you do it right, once is
Case Western Reserve Univ. | enough.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Unknown
______________________________|_____________________________
"Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied
them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with
computers, and nobody thinks of complaining."
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in
Doctor Dobb's Journal
____________________________________________________________
From: amueller@cis.ohio-state.edu (andrew j mueller)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Netrek client COW1.02 available for NeXT 68k
Date: 23 Feb 1995 18:18:28 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Message-ID: <3ij544INNrsh@hammer.cis.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3ii9or$hr8@guardian.EnGarde.com>
>(Mike Neuman) writes:
> After some time off, I'm back! :-)
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| |_| | | |_| | | _ < | |_| | |_| |_|
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welcome back bud!!
Andy
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: how to remove "H" from NIH
Date: 27 Feb 1995 08:22:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3is246$fa8@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <9502232158.AA26762@alleg.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Tim Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) wrote:
: Is there a way to remove the hppa arch from a binary which is NIH-fat?
: Specifically I have a 3fat version of tcsh and I want just Intel
: and m68k. But I don't know how to remove hppa with lipo.(a
: command-line method would be the best, if possible.
Extract the architectures you want to keep in two seperate files and
combine them together. Something like
lipo xxx.app/xxx -extract m68k -output /tmp/xxx.N
lipo xxx.app/xxx -extract i486 -output /tmp/xxx.I
lipo -create /tmp/xxx.I /tmp/xxx.N -output xxx.app/xxx
Axel
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From: falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se.u.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Help!! Cannot start IB
Date: 27 Feb 1995 08:49:19 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology
Message-ID: <3is3mf$j45@nyheter.chalmers.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
Yesterday when I was trying to start IB an alert panel with
the following message appeared on the screen:
Runtime error: NXReadOnlyString: does not recognize selector
-replaceWith:
The console said:
InterfaceBuilder[201]: An uncaught exeption was raised
InterfaceBuilder[201]: Unknown error code 314159 in NXReportError
Since then I cannot start IB; the message continues to appear.
So far as I know, I haven4t done anything unusual.
Does anyone knows what's the problem, and what to do about it?
---
Gvran Falkman Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se
Department of Computing Science Tel: + 46 31 772 5412
Chalmers University of Technology Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55
S-412 96 Gvteborg, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TEX problem
Message-ID: <1995Feb24.160329.969@cine88.cineca.it>
From: cairoli@deis64.cineca.it (Claudio Cairoli)
Date: 24 Feb 95 16:03:28 +0100
Sender: cairoli@deis64 (Claudio Cairoli)
Distribution: world
Hi, I'm running 3.3 and have a little problem with TeX, the packages is
the one from the 3.3 cd-rom and, I can't find the tex program, I've
seen also in the package but there is inittex virtex ,but not tex ,
I tried a simple tex input file and called virtex but I've got an empty
dvi file ...
Can you help me ?
Please if you can reply via E-mail.
Bye and thanks
Claudio Cairoli
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Exercise your NEXTIME
Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:09:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ij4in$q1k@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hi:
For all of you Stark Trek Voyager fans:
http://voyager.paramount.com/
has a great collection of QuickTime movies.
All movies seem to work just fine with NEXTIME, but
are a bit dark.
I have no connection with Paramount or Stark Trek (but I wish I did)
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Subject: Re: tiff whitespace to transparent?
Message-ID: <1995Feb26.234224.2604@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Organization: Individual
References: <3ifnek$6mt@castle.york.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 23:42:24 GMT
pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes:
: sela@iastate.edu writes:
: >
: > Does anybody know of a way that I could make the whitespace in a tiff
: > transparent. For example, I use grab to grab a tiff that is on a white
: > background. How can I convert that white background to a transparent
: > background now that it is part of the tiff?
: I've always done this by hand in Iconbuilder - if you've got anything
: opther than a simple backgroudn then it's a right pain to do though.
: Writing a program to load in a tiff and change all of a particular colour
: to transparent shouldn't be a problem though - the tiff object is
: very easy to use in normal C program (niot Apps).
:
: -bat.
How about the following procedure in IconBuilder:
- open your tiff
- Command-Shift-P -> check for alpha channels (transparency bits)
- Command-Shift-C -> uncheck "Paint in Overlay mode"
- select 0% opacity (full transparency)
- Use the fill-tool and click in the white area
- save
- enjoy your transparency !
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Yann LECHELLE - Edge Seeker yann@dagobah.fdn.fr | y_lechelle@effix.fr
25, rue Bosquet - Paris, France +NeXT/MIME +m68k/hppa +PS/TIFF/JPG/GIF/..
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 27 Feb 1995 09:43:26 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3ir06e$11j@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <1995Feb15.232332.6258@bMD.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
kevins@bmd.com writes:
>any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a hell of a
>time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too helpful
>help me
>---
>Kevin Solie
>
>Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
>Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
I've had similar problems with softpc - I think my problems have something
to do with the DOS partitions being AFTER the NS partition. I have to
find time to repartition stuff so that the DOS partitions are first before
I can prove this one way or the other.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam
From: wilkin@vitalsoft.com (Wilkin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: converting slab to mac.
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 17:07:34 -0800
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
I seem to remember a while ago there is a company selling a converter kit
that convert the nextstation to a mac. Anybody know the company name, or
are they still in business?
Thanks,
Wilkin Ng
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: latest CERT announced sendmail hole
In-Reply-To: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu's message of 24 Feb 1995 07:16:13 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb26201751@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 01:17:51 GMT
You can get the full source code to sendmail 8.6.10 from
ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/ucb/sendmail. It's really beyond me why NeXT
doesn't just ship this with NS User. It compiles fine. If they paid me
for three hours of my time, I could deliver them a full quad-fat distribution
of this sendmail.
NeXT should also ship GNU UUCP (Taylor) too. The NeXT UUCP implementation is
downright horrible. Once again: it's free and would take approximately three
hours to put together a "shippable" release.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
From: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS3.3 Oddities?
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:39:28 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950227081919.4639A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi. I have NS3.3 on a 32MB, P90 with an Apaptec2940 and Stealth64. I'm
running at 1280x1024x16bit@75khz color on a Sony17se.
I've noticed a line of "dots and dashes" in some of the entries in the
ftp site selection list of GatorFTP+ (latest release found on standard
archives). ???
I've also noticed that the row numbers and actual rows in MESA can get
mis-alligned when inserting/deleting rows. (Needless to say, this can
cause confusion.) ????
Before I contact the respective authors of these (fine) programs; I'd
like to know if this is a NS3.3 "feature" or a video resolution problem
or .... whatever. Has anyone else noticed this problem? On what
hardware configuration? Etc. i.e., any suggestions?
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: losing the last line of my outgoing mail
Date: 26 Feb 1995 20:57:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502270257.AA02338@alleg.EDU>
For some reason I am losing the last line of my outgoing mail. I
know it has to do with a script/filter I have written, and usually I
take care to avoid the problem, but it still shows up every now and
again.
If I forget to hit 'return' after a line, it is ripped from my outgoing mail.
So my question is, how do I append a CR to the end of my outgoing
mail? (or is there another solution?)
any help appreciated
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Help! Tyring to create an internet server using NeXT
References: <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:59:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.105943.2897@proximus.north.de>
In article <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>,
R. Tabibian <rtabibia.notes@mail.zd.ziff.com> wrote:
>I am trying to create a full fledged internet server using NeXTStep 3.3.
>However, I am not sure where I can get all the tools that I am looking
>for. Is there anyone out there that is using NeXT as their internet
>server? If so I would appreciate any help in this matter.
>
>Tools I am looking for:
>
>HTTP Server
Get the CERN httpd 3.0. Compiles right out of the box, the doc explains all
steps for NEXTSTEP installation. It was developed on a NeXT. Also the CERN
server supports caching, I _think_ other servers do not.
It runs on my home (this) machine and I am very happy with it.
>DNS Server
Is not the NeXT already set up for doing DNS resolving? At least I can find
named(8)
nslookup(8)
resolver(3)
and all the other needed stuff on my machine. However I do not have BIND
running, so you should ask someone else who does. It should be no trouble,
though. But I guess the named is not needed, as Netinfo should do the job.
>Gopher Server
>NNTP Server
Should compile.
Gerhard.
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From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: best wordproc for NS
Date: 27 Feb 1995 19:01:50 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Can anyone recommend a good word processor for a black box NS machine?
I have WriteNow release 2 but it really sux.
Commercial products, shareware, or freeware- any and all suggestions are
welcome.
thanks
Bill Ricahrdson
Virginie Tech
blacksburg va
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TEX problem
Date: 28 Feb 1995 03:56:42 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iu6tq$15ji@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1995Feb24.160329.969@cine88.cineca.it>
Claudio Cairoli (cairoli@deis64.cineca.it) wrote:
: the one from the 3.3 cd-rom and, I can't find the tex program, I've
: seen also in the package but there is inittex virtex ,but not tex ,
'tex', 'latex', 'amstex', 'zombietex' and the like are not separate
programs, but (at least on most Unix installations) links to virtex
program. The deal is that when called under name 'tex' virtex will
try to load automatically 'tex.fmt' and if you call it as 'zombietex'
it will search for 'zombietex.fmt' and the same in other situations.
This is also a reason why 'tex.fmt' is normally just a link to 'plain.fmt'
(because this is the format you want to load when you run "just tex")
and you have watch for that when updating your formats.
Maybe somebody forgot to put links when preparing the package, or maybe
there were some errors in your installation procedure?
Michal
From: edwardb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <3isgcc$s3u@crl4.crl.com>
Message-ID: <cancel.3isgcc$s3u@crl4.crl.com>
Date: 27 Feb 1995 17:34:33 GMT
Control: cancel <3isgcc$s3u@crl4.crl.com>
spam
From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Can't creat new SwapDisk!
Date: 28 Feb 1995 04:37:56 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3iu9b4$124q@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <schwettD4oItr.Hus@netcom.com>
In article <schwettD4oItr.Hus@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
..
> /Neuromancer/Swap/swapfile lowat=33554432,prefer
>
> However, on boot it fails to swap on that file. I tried creating
> the file beforehand (touch), but that had no effect.
Don't use touch(1), use mkfile(8). In your case use:
mkfile 32m /Neuromancer/Swap/swapfile
--
Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: UC592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu (K YEE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT resources on Web
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 16:33:09 CST
Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia
Message-ID: <17352E8C6S86.UC592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Hi there,
I had compiled quite comprehensive information on NeXT-related
stuff in my web page. For those who are interested, plz feel free to
drop by at URL:http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/HOMES/c592282_www/next.html
Any flames, feedbacks, and comments are welcome. Thanks
+=========================+============================================+
| Yee, Kok Choon | Email : uc592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu |
| Lab Assistant | : uc592282@showme.missouri.edu |
| University of Missouri | Homepage : http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/ |
| Campus Computing | HOMES/c592282_www/ |
+=========================+============================================+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dbirbaum@ccso.cim.ch (Daniel Birbaum)
Subject: Re: converting slab to mac.
Message-ID: <dbirbaum.94.0008B23B@ccso.cim.ch>
Sender: news@unifr.ch (User for news)
Organization: CIMCCSO
References: <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:41:42 GMT
In article <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca> wilkin@vitalsoft.com (Wilkin Ng) writes:
>From: wilkin@vitalsoft.com (Wilkin Ng)>Subject: converting slab to mac.
>Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 17:07:34 -0800
>I seem to remember a while ago there is a company selling a converter kit
>that convert the nextstation to a mac. Anybody know the company name, or
>are they still in business?
>Thanks,
>Wilkin Ng
The product you probably think of is called "Daydream". You may have a look at
the various NeXT-newsgroups to find posts related to that subject.
From: tomk@access.digex.net (Tom Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.3 CD-ROM lockup?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 04:40:52 GMT
Organization: Comm Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <3iu9gk$5ml@news1.digex.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I just installed 3.3 for Intel over the weekend, and I'm having a
strange
problem. If I eject the CD-ROM that's in the drive when it boots (the
title of the CD-ROM is unimportant), and then reinsert any other
CD-ROM, it pretty much hangs the system until I manually eject the
CD-ROM.
Its a bit of a hassle to reboot the system just to change CD-ROMS <G>.
Any thoughts? This is an Adaptec 2742 controller and Chinon 535
CD-ROM.
Thanks for any ideas.
--
Tom Krotchko
<tomk@access.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello)
Subject: Re: What do you think of this system?
Message-ID: <D4o9Dt.17M@pages.com>
Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <andylee-2502951959490001@idtech.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:44:16 GMT
In article <andylee-2502951959490001@idtech.com> andylee@netcom.com (Andy A.
Lee) writes:
> In article <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>, schwett@differencengine (Mark
> Schwettmann) wrote:
>
> > jrl8@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (James R Lendino) wrote:
> > >Hello,
> >
> > >I am going to purchase a system to alternately run NeXTSTEP 3.3...
> >
> > >1. Asus single CPU PCI motherboard
> > >2. Pentium CPU (haven't decided between 75/90/100)
> > >3. 32 MB of RAM (60 ns)
> > >4. Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 MB of VRAM
> > >5. Adaptec 2940W fast, wide SCSI-II controller
> > >6. 3.5" floppy drive
> >
> > This configuration is very similar to mine, which works quite well (now.)
> >
> > I use an AiR PCI/EISA motherboard that has a 2940W integrated. It's nice
> > to save a slot and the setup hassles, etc. etc. I think it runs about
> > $300 more than the ASUS though, which is more than a 2940W costs. A
> > nice board though.
> >
> > Make sure the ASUS has the latest rev. of the Neptune chipset!
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Mark
>
> Why do you want the 2940W instead of the 2940? Does it make that(sic)
> much of a difference? I'm thinking about getting a similar system, but
> with P5-90, Adaptec 2940, and Stealth 64 with 2 MB VRAM to save a few
> bucks. Any opion is welcome...
>
> Andy Lee
> andylee@cs.ucla.edu
I have the Diamond Stealth 64 with 4MB VRAM, I purchased the 4MB over the 2MB
so I could run in 1280x1024. Unfortunately, I didn't invest enough money in my
monitor. The driver works fine, it just doesn't look that good at that
resolution. I'm stuck at 1024x768 (all color depths look good).
My advice, choose a resolution you will be happy with and then choose an
excellent monitor for that resolution.
Greg Kostello
From: indy@griffin.ppp.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Tyring to create an internet server using NeXT
Date: 24 Feb 1995 23:06:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ilopc$7qd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
In article <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
rtabibia.notes@mail.zd.ziff.com (R. Tabibian) writes:
> Hello:
>
> I am trying to create a full fledged internet server using NeXTStep 3.3.
> However, I am not sure where I can get all the tools that I am looking
> for. Is there anyone out there that is using NeXT as their internet
> server? If so I would appreciate any help in this matter.
>
> Tools I am looking for:
>
> HTTP Server
NCSA's httpd 1.3 compiles just fine on 3.2 (3.3 Developer isn't avavilable
yet)
> DNS Server
I understand NS is not the best OS for this, but what do I know?
> Gopher Server
> NNTP Server
Not sure. I wouldn't mind knowing, either. We're getting some more iron to
run NEXTSTEP and Web sites.
Steve Weintz
Chief Graphic Artist
& HTML Dweeb,
New Media Publishing, Inc.
indy@melvin.com
From: root@edie.cprost.sfu.ca (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Quickcam and Black HW
Date: 24 Feb 1995 23:04:15 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Message-ID: <3ilolf$2ck@seymour.sfu.ca>
Keywords: quickcam digital video in
I am relatively new to the next world so perhaps this has been asked
already, but is anyone working on using a quickcam with nexts? It is a
digital video camera (CCD) available for the mac. It uses the "vdig"
digitizer component that is part of quicktime, and a standard serial cable
(which seems to be similar with the next) so the next question is -- could
it work with NS?
..r
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does Anyone Service Next Printers?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 15:54:41 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3ivh01$bua@newstand.syr.edu>
The title pretty much says it all. We have a bunch of NeXT printers (black)
which are starting to go belly up. Does anyone know of a company that
will service these, preferable located in the northeast?
Thanks in advance, Terry
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From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: TEX problem
In-Reply-To: cairoli@deis64.cineca.it's message of 24 Feb 95 16:03:28 +0100
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb28101709@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <1995Feb24.160329.969@cine88.cineca.it>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:17:09 GMT
In article <1995Feb24.160329.969@cine88.cineca.it> cairoli@deis64.cineca.it (Claudio Cairoli) writes:
The release notes say that you must install the NeXTTeX package using
Installer, i.e. not when installing the OS. Just re-install the
package.
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: dlynn@celt.org (Darrell Lynn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: next-icons
Date: 27 Feb 1995 15:43:47 GMT
Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3isrvj$mv9@caesar.ultra.net>
Keywords: next icons ftp
Could some provide me with the ftp site where the next-icons can be found.
Thanks
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: latest CERT announced sendmail hole
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 28 Feb 1995 16:11:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <ERNEST.95Feb28081116@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
References: <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu> <RDL.95Feb26201751@world.std.com>
In-reply-to: rdl@world.std.com's message of Mon, 27 Feb 1995 01:17:51 GMT
Robert La Ferla writes:
> You can get the full source code to sendmail 8.6.10 from
> ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/ucb/sendmail. It's really beyond me why
> NeXT doesn't just ship this with NS User.
This is a really stupid theory, but I can't help wondering...
Every now and then, like now, we hear about sendmail security holes.
When people asked why NeXT hadn't done anything, the reason given was
that NeXT's sendmail - being so old - was not susceptible to this
trick. That is, the tradeoff for being so out of date was decreased
chance of a security risk.
Is there any chance this is intentional? That NeXT deliberately
avoids picking up the latest sendmail, for fear of opening new
security holes? Are there already so many holes sendmail isn't worth
worrying about?q Or are there versions out there which are known to be
more secure, and it really is just NeXT laziness?
-- Ernie P.
[Followup to advocacy, please]
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
NeXT mail:ernest@caltech.edu "...your servants for Jesus' sake."
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmld - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 28 Feb 1995 15:02:35 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ivdub$nii@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <D4Hz5p.GI@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca> <D4LH4F.10D@ritz.mordor.com>
Matthew Hocker (hocker@ritz.mordor.com) wrote:
> Because NeXT has chosen to make OpenStep a "open standard", "free" versions
> are possible.
Yes, You are right. Free versions are possible, and it`s already under
development. You will also to be able to get the source code when it`s
finished. First - not OpenStep compliant - code runs!
If you are interested in this project, you can get the FAQ or point
your WWW broswer to the GNU OpenStep WWW page.
This FAQ can be obtained by anonymous ftp from
ftp://ftp.cosy.sbg.ac.at/pub/gnustep/gnustep.FAQ
A HTML version of it can be found on
http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/comp/os/gnustep/faq.html.
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Documentation Coordinator/Leader
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: 3.3 CD-ROM lockup?
Message-ID: <D4q31K.9L5@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <3iu9gk$5ml@news1.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:22:32 GMT
tomk@access.digex.net (Tom Krotchko) writes:
>I just installed 3.3 for Intel over the weekend, and I'm having a
>strange
>problem. If I eject the CD-ROM that's in the drive when it boots (the
>title of the CD-ROM is unimportant), and then reinsert any other
>CD-ROM, it pretty much hangs the system until I manually eject the
>CD-ROM.
>Its a bit of a hassle to reboot the system just to change CD-ROMS <G>.
>Any thoughts? This is an Adaptec 2742 controller and Chinon 535
>CD-ROM.
>Thanks for any ideas.
>--
>Tom Krotchko
><tomk@access.digex.net>
I too have noticed a NS3.3 problem with the CD-ROM, on a NeXT Cube. If
one symbolically links a directory, such as Fonts, from the CD to the HD;
e.g. to ~/Library/Fonts, one is unable to eject the CD. This is true
even if the HD resident link is deleted. Logging out has no effect.
Finally, when I attempted a reset, following a logout, my netinfo database
was clobbered -- presumably as a result of attempting to boot from the CD.
Since I did not have a backup copy of the netinfo database, I had to completely
reload the system, which takes the better part of one day!
Is there a work-around for this problem. I did not manually eject the CD
because I recall that this was discouraged by the NeXT manuals. What should
I have done. Perhaps more importantly, what netinfo files should I backup
in the event this happens again -- for some other reason. Thanks for any
help you can give me. I presume others on the net would also like to know
about this.
--Tim
--
Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXT (black) Printer
Message-ID: <1995Feb28.050751.5039@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3iirbo$odo@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 05:07:51 GMT
In article <3iirbo$odo@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> srosie@umich.edu
(Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> Along those lines, I am also wondering whether anyone has
> ever tried to look at the output that the NeXT sends to the laser
> printer -- i.e. if I were trying to build an interface to, say, an
> epson line printer, I would take my PC parallel port output and feed
> it into some device that can save the data as a file. I'd then
> try to figure out what the data format was (e.g. binary, ascii,
> etc.).
>
The NeXTlaser is attached through a high speed synchronous interface. It
gets directly fed with pixel data since the rendering is all done within
the main memory of the NeXT. The DMA engine then creates a synchronous
bit stream that is locked with the photosensitive drum where the light
source directly writes the charge pattern that will take up the toner.
Although a reverse engineering of this interface would be possible it
weren't worth the fuss, IMHO. Such an interface to any other printer
would need to store the bit pattern into some kind of memory and then wrap
it into the foreign printer's protocol. Can be done, but...
> On the other hand, NeXT could always release the hardware
> specs for their old printers (along with kernal source, MO bus specs,
> etc.).
> :) :) :)
>
No they can't. The rights for the hardware design lie with Canon.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: vision@mindvox.phantom.com (ZiZi Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: need information on sunos<->nextstep connectivity
Date: 28 Feb 1995 14:04:59 -0500
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Sender: root@phantom.com
Message-ID: <cPX91c2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, sparc, SUNOS4, PC
I have an ALR running NEXTSTEP next to a Sparc running SUNOS4.1.3, so the
ethernet connection is not a problem. I would like to run NEXTSTEP at
home from someday, what is the best way and software packages to setup
this kind of connection? The Sparc is running CSLIP, PPP, ... then what
kind of ppp client software, freeware, shareware or commercail packages
are available? Some netters like NeXT-ppp. Does it work for NEXTSTEP for
intel? ... I hope I could get as much as possible advice from you. I
don't mind doing some test for different packages. Thanks in advance.
Actually, I could use a cable-modem to connect my home pc to the Sparc in
my office, if I just run dos-windows. Unfortunately, the modem doesn't
have a driver for NEXTSTEP. Otherwise, I can have direct Internet access
from home with bandwitdh > 100kb/s using NEXTSTEP. 8~[
Regards,
ZiZi
From: erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: More on CDPlayer
Date: 28 Feb 1995 14:27:46 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3ivtfi$qr3@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb16085113@darwin.uchicago.edu>
What you will need to do to hear CD-AUDIO is:
1) Have a CD drive that will work with CD-Player, you do.
2) Hook up a head phones to the CD-ROM drive's headphone
jack -or- Hook up amplified speakers to the line-out jacks
that are located on the back of your CD-ROM drive
NOTE: Not all CD-ROM drives have these jacks on them.
The real sad part about the next sound drivers is that they don't allow
you to use the "internal" sound throughput features that are a part of
most sound cards.
Hope that helps!
- Eric
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: looking for NeXT users @ Iowa State University
Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:08:11 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ivvrb$2q8@news.iastate.edu>
I feel so alone here, all my NeXT pals have graduated or gone on to bigger
and better places. Is there anyone around Ames with a NeXT? Please reply
to sela@iastate.edu.
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
****************************************************************
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Subject: Re: latest CERT announced sendmail hole
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950228133842.4496C-100000@lipschitz>
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:51:29 -0600
References: <3ik13t$qav@portal.gmu.edu> <RDL.95Feb26201751@world.std.com> <ERNEST.95Feb28081116@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
In-Reply-To: <ERNEST.95Feb28081116@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm testing a new disk by computing an MD5 hash of every file on it.
It was freshly formatted and the system (3.2) was loaded from the CD.
Further, the machine hasn't been on the network yet.
E-mail me for the list if you want it.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.1
Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface.
iQCVAgUBL1M4UuBu0383Om6dAQHjewQAjKhXU7z4UGZ1b9QBjWGZpNwuTLaIVB3x
F9Gv18qcZs9JI/SDkshIC+4YJY55NLxhEbh3PfWoli3yu6vcUdTP191o9KEimPaA
Xd0J6FHoFEVZFHqbHG4KLOkhZ7YzYQtBwdcIbU8FGvqolPPQH7Gy3UvO1x+MwKff
VS3Vc27u/Dg=
=nux5
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka
"The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Re: 3.3 CD-ROM lockup?
Message-ID: <D4qMM8.Iw@fritz.snafu.de>
Organization: dasburo Berlin
References: <3iu9gk$5ml@news1.digex.net> <D4q31K.9L5@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 01:25:19 GMT
In <D4q31K.9L5@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
>I have done. Perhaps more importantly, what netinfo files should I backup
>in the event this happens again -- for some other reason. Thanks for any
Back up the directory /etc/netinfo
--
--------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
--------------------------------------------
From: mikef@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.3 serialMouse panics driving me insane
Date: 28 Feb 1995 22:18:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j07fr$2f0@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Since I've installed 3.3, I've been having weekly panics that seem to be
caused by a stream of serialMouse errors. The odd thing about this... I
am NEVER even near the machine when it happens.
I really can't have these weekly panics, as much as I like 3.3. I've not
changed my hardware setup in months, so it must be the new OS. Has anyone
else experienced this? Does anyone have any clue how I can fix it?
I went for months with only one panic under 3.2, then I "upgraded..."
--
Mike Fleming, Undergrad, CEE, Purdue "I'll get the pencils
mikef@ecn.purdue.edu We'll draw ourselves a new world"
http://hillres22.cc.purdue.edu/~mikef --Kitchens of Distinction
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PC PKZIP format support?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 22:39:14 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: pkzip, zip, not gzip
Help!
I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
Christopher Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help!! Cannot start IB
Date: 1 Mar 1995 00:46:27 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j0g53$1r0@news.next.com>
References: <3is3mf$j45@nyheter.chalmers.se>
In article <3is3mf$j45@nyheter.chalmers.se>
falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se.u.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman) writes:
:Hi,
:
:Yesterday when I was trying to start IB an alert panel with
:the following message appeared on the screen:
:
: Runtime error: NXReadOnlyString: does not recognize selector
: -replaceWith:
:
:The console said:
:
: InterfaceBuilder[201]: An uncaught exeption was raised
: InterfaceBuilder[201]: Unknown error code 314159 in NXReportError
:
:Since then I cannot start IB; the message continues to appear.
How many palettes are you loading?
Check the .NeXT/defaults.nidb file in your home directory. If the
"Palettes" line has a value longer than 1024 characters, you'll run into
this bug. The workaround is to remove some of the palettes, or at least
provide shorter paths for them.
This has been fixed for 3.3 Developer.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: youremailaddress@St.Olaf.College (St. Olaf Student)
Subject: looking 4 disk drive
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.023405.11188@news.stolaf.edu>
Sender: kroschel@nic.stolaf.edu
Organization: St. Olaf College
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 02:34:05 GMT
Hi...I'm looking for a 3.5 drive for my computer. My current one is
fried. If anyone is selling, my e-mail address is below. One thing I
want to point out is that I'm a poor college student and can't give
much for it. I will try to make a deal, though.
Thanks,
Jim
kroschel@stolaf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Subject: purpose of /bin/[ ?
Message-ID: <D4qqqM.1u7@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 02:54:21 GMT
Can someone tell me the purpose of /bin/[ ?
-- kc
From: karin@waldzell.physics.yale.edu (Karin Rabe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WARNING! Greg Howland/NSProducts
Date: 1 Mar 1995 02:17:22 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Message-ID: <3j0lfi$90s@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Will anyone who has had difficulties dealing with
GREGORY HOWLAND
NSProducts, Cambridge, Massachusetts
in purchasing from him notebook computers running NextStep or other products,
please contact
Detective Riley of the Yale University Campus Police at (203) 432-4403
(email sent to karin@waldzell.physics.yale.edu will be printed out and
forwarded to him).
Karin Rabe
Gregory Moore
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: SoftPC and TCP/IP ?
Message-ID: <D4ryqp.DK@fritz.snafu.de>
Organization: dasburo Berlin
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:44:48 GMT
Can anybody help me with SoftPC and TCP/IP :
I put the drivers into AUTOEXEC.BAT as described in the manual. They
all load fine, including ISTCPIP.COM.
When ETHERSPC.COM loads it prints out that it is using the protocol
ETHERNET_802.3. That's fine for IPX, but IP should be on ETHERNET_II.
Do I have to create a NET.CFG and bind ETHERNET_II to ETHERSPC ?
When ISTCPIP.COM loads, it does not complain, though.
If this all works, how can I test my setup. I could not find any PING.EXE,
so I downloaded a program called WSPING.EXE from a pc archive.
This starts o.k. and is able to do names resolving with hostnames in netinfo,
but when pinging it prints out : Cannot create raw socket (10013).
In WSPING's readme it says that some WINSOCK.DLL implementations do not
support raw sockets.
Is that the case for the WINSOCK.DLL that comes with SoftPC ?
Is there another PING.EXE which works with SoftPC ?
Thanks for any info, Ernst.
--
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Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: 105 Sysquest + DPT 2021 ISA + NS/i 3.2 = ???
Message-ID: <jpanicoD4oGtp.GFH@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3ib4os$dv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:25:00 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
john stanhope (jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone got a syquest drive to work with a DPT card?? Is
: there some magical invocation I forgot? Other than this little
: problem NS seemed to handle the addition nicely.
Yes, we are using the Syquest Marlin (105) with the DPT 2022 SCSI-- it
works quite nicely.
I think that only SCSI removable media work under NS 3.2, so if your
disk adapter is ISA you mayh have a prob.
: Thanks
: Jehu
:
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds)
Subject: Re: PC PKZIP format support?
Message-ID: <mreynoldD4rx8q.MtH@netcom.com>
Keywords: pkzip, zip, not gzip
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:12:26 GMT
Sender: mreynold@netcom4.netcom.com
In article <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>,
Christopher Penrose <penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
>me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
>into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
>version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
Go to ftp.uu.net:/pub/archiving/zip
--
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Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384
mreynold@netcom.com
(No NeXT-mail)
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From: tseg@access.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXTStep, ObjectiveC job openings.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 1 Mar 1995 23:47:31 -0500
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., Mt. Airy, MD USA.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3j3il3$skp@access4.digex.net>
Summary: Long term contract, Excellent job environment
Keywords: Local Telephone Experience.
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXTStep
2+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is preferred
6+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mac -> NeXT printing
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.223711.758@titan.sfasu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 1 Mar 95 22:37:11 CST
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
We're looking for Macintosh to NeXT printing solutions.
Thanks for any suggestions.
-- kc
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 3.3 serialMouse panics driving me insane
Date: 1 Mar 1995 22:41:34 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j2t6u$d1@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3j07fr$2f0@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3j07fr$2f0@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> mikef@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu
(Mike Fleming) writes:
}~ Since I've installed 3.3, I've been having weekly panics that
}~ seem to be caused by a stream of serialMouse errors. The odd
}~ thing about this... I am NEVER even near the machine when it
}~ happens.
}~
}~ I really can't have these weekly panics, as much as I like 3.3.
}~ I've not changed my hardware setup in months, so it must be
}~ the new OS. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have
}~ any clue how I can fix it?
The weather *has* changed a bit, though. Check your power, too. Sharp
spikes were getting through my surge protector and giving me panics and
lockups (3.2 black) and I was blaming it on newly starting up named.
Shortly the waveshape of the power spikes changed, the NeXT rode them out
as usual (or the surge protector was blocking them...) but OTHER
equipment began having strange reactions - like turning off with no
"orders" to turn off.
Bu then, I haven't heard any reports that the 3.3 white built-in serial
code is any better than previous versions, either.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
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Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: purpose of /bin/[ ?
Message-ID: <espritD4r80t.82G@netcom.com>
Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List
References: <D4qqqM.1u7@demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 09:07:41 GMT
Sender: esprit@netcom20.netcom.com
In article <D4qqqM.1u7@demon.co.uk> deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) writes:
>
>Can someone tell me the purpose of /bin/[ ?
It is a synonym for the test utility. It is commonly used in shell scripts.
Example usage:
[ -f filename ] which is equivalent to test -f filename
Both of these test for the existence of the regular file 'filename'. It
returns an exit status that can be used by the shell's if construct, for
example.
--
Alan F. Perry
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From: hogan@BanffCentre.AB.CA (Kharim Hogan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: JOBS: New Media Research Job Opportunities
Date: 1 Mar 95 19:36:52 GMT
Organization: The Banff Centre for the Arts (Banff, Alberta)
Message-ID: <hogan.794086612@grizzly.BanffCentre.AB.CA>
*********************************************************************
*********************************************************************
JOB OPPORTUNITIES
NEW MEDIA RESEARCH
The Banff Centre for the Arts
*********************************************************************
*********************************************************************
New Media Research at The Banff Centre for the Arts is accepting
applications for several software development positions.
Applicants must be strong programmers. They must have experience
working with and developing multimedia related applications and
environments and/or experience in development of tools and
software for artistic ends. Preference will be given to applicants
who are outgoing, motivated, comfortable with both artists and
technologists, willing to learn and take initiative.
New Media Research at The Banff Centre espouses an artist-centered
paradigm of research and development. The project envisions a
media-connected society in which cultural material, information,
entertainment, and social interaction is delivered interactively
to the individual, at home, in the workplace, and on the move.
We believe:
- that artists have a vital role to play in developing a new
digital culture;
- that application and usage are critical driving forces in
the research and development process;
- that this is particularly true of technologies that involve
computer-human interaction; and
- that the experimental artistic applications and usage carried
on uniquely at The Banff Centre are an especially rich source
of information, design, functional specification, testing, and
innovation in applied research.
New Media Research seeks to foster an intimate bond between technical
research and artistic practice that will create benefits for culture,
industry, and society.
The New Media Research team develops software tools and user
interfaces for the creation of culturally-rich interactive/immersive
content. The team works with artists, technologists and visiting
researchers in a sophisticated multimedia/VR production environment.
The research team works in a mixed computing environment which includes
Silicon Graphics, Macintosh, NeXT, and Intel computers, supporting a
variety of multimedia production and development software including
MRToolKit, Performer (SGI), MAX/FTS (NeXT, Mac and SGI), AVID Media
Composer, and related custom applications for realtime graphics,
video and sound processing. In addition to exercising superior
software design and programming skills, each member of the group must
be able to work effectively with artists and technologists in a
production support role, and must be able to document and disseminate
information arising from the research and production process.
General qualifications must include:
- profiency in C and C++
- object-oriented software design
- experience with the SGI environment, and Unix
- a background in the arts or experience working in an artist
oriented environment
As well, specialization in one or more of the following areas:
- computer graphics software development
- user interface design
- audio software development
- non-linear video production and video software development
In accordance with Canadian immigration requirements, preference will
be given to candidates who are citizens or landed immigrants of Canada.
ENQUIRIES/APPLICATIONS to:
E-mail: claire_honeyman@banffcentre.ab.ca
Fax: (403) 762 6665
APPLICATION DEADLINE: March 15th, 1995.
*********************************************************************
NEW MEDIA RESEARCH
THE BANFF CENTRE FOR THE ARTS
VIDEO SOFTWARE DEVELOPER
This position is part of a research team in the New Media Research
project at The Banff Centre for the Arts in Banff, Alberta, Canada.
The team develops software tools and user interfaces for the creation
of culturally-rich interactive/immersive content. The team works with
artists, technologists and visiting researchers in a sophisticated
multimedia/VR production environment.
The research team works in a mixed computing environment which includes
Silicon Graphics, Macintosh, NeXT, and Intel computers, supporting a
variety of multimedia production and development software including
MRToolKit, Performer (SGI), MAX/FTS (NeXT, Mac and SGI), AVID Media
Composer, and related custom applications for realtime graphics,
video and sound processing. In addition to exercising superior software
design and programming skills, each member of the group must be able
to work effectively with artists and technologists in a production
support role, and must be able to document and disseminate information
arising from the research and production process.
Qualifications include:
- practical experience with the traditional video production process
- extensive knowledge of computer applications in non-linear video
production and video signal processing
- familiarity with the SGI/IRIX environment
- proficiency in C and/or C++
In accordance with Canadian immigration requirements,
preference will be given to candidates who are citizens or landed
immigrants of Canada.
ENQUIRIES/APPLICATIONS to:
E-mail: claire_honeyman@banffcentre.ab.ca
Fax: (403) 762 6665
APPLICATION DEADLINE: March 15th, 1995
*********************************************************************
*********************************************************************
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.shell
Subject: when you can't change your default login shell
Date: 26 Feb 1995 22:11:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502270410.AA05950@alleg.EDU>
Hi
I am unable to change my default login shell as a peon-user, and so I
am stuck with 'csh'. With the NeXT this isn't a problem for most
times I open a shell, because I can tell it to open whatever shell I
want to when I am logged in on the console. The place where it
becomes a problem is when I am telnetting.
Someone sent me this line some time ago, to put in my .cshrc (for
reasons which are irrelevant now)
This should all be one line:
set APPNAME=`/bin/ps -axlcw | awk '{ pid=$3; ppid[pid]=$4;
name[pid]=$NF; } END { pid='$$';while (name[pid]==name[ppid[pid]])
pid=ppid[pid]; print name[ppid[pid]]; }'`
yes it is long, but all one line it must be.
I put that at the top of my .cshrc. Right underneath it, I put this:
if ("$APPNAME" == "telnetd") then
~/Unix/bin/tcsh -l
endif
which says that if I am telnetting and it tries to launch csh, then
launch tcsh instead (in login mode).
Someone else suggested this little tidbit:
while ( 1 )
echo ""
echo "Which shell?"
echo " (enter letter, then press <RETURN>)"
echo " (or just press <RETURN> to use the default)"
echo ""
echo " c - csh"
echo " t - tcsh (default)"
echo " l - Logout"
echo -n "> "
set ans=$<
switch ( $ans )
case c*:
[ do stuff for csh normally found in .cshrc ]
break
case t*:
tcsh -l # launch tcsh
break
case "":
tcsh -l
break
case l*:
case L*:
logout
break
endsw
end
unset ans
But that was a little extreme for my tastes, and I found I was hardly
ever using csh.
Just thought this might be helpful to someone someday.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can print from Terminal but not Apps - help !
Date: 2 Mar 1995 13:23:59 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3j4gtf$ell@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I imagine that quite a few people will be getting sick of me posting
these dumb questions all the time, but heres another one :-)
I have got a NeXT cube hooked up to a NeXT printer . . . I can print
stuff from the a terminal window OK by doing an lpr <filename> and
that all works lovely. BUT I can't print from a NeXT app like Edit -
the job appears in the queue and says that it is n pages but the size
field is always blank and the job never appears - unless I log out and
back in as root. All the lp* files that I can find and suid to root
and sgid to wheel, so is the prserver file. I am now stuck as to what
could be causing this - any help would be appreciated.
Rupert.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP/PPP emulation software?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:40:35 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <3j2ijj$29m@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
I have been told that there is SLIP/PPP emulation software available which
allows users to telnet into a machine from some starting point (to which they
had connected via dialup) and then run the emulator on that machine, which
allows the user to start SLIP or PPP on their local machine and have it
communicate with the machine to which they telnetted -- via SLIP.
Is anyone aware of software like this that runs on the NeXT? It would be
extremely useful for a site like ours where the campus modem pool allows
telnet connections but not direct SLIP ones.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: tjioe@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Joe Chitrady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can Next monitor N4000 be used for PC ot Mac ?
Date: 27 Feb 1995 06:34:37 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Message-ID: <3irrpt$n3p@news.csus.edu>
Anybody has the spec for Next Monitor Model No. N4000 ?
I am just wondering whether this monitor can be used for Mac
or PC system. I don't mind buying another Graphics card as
long as it is working.
And also, is this monitor gray scale or color ?
Thanks,
Joe
From: hohner@aol.com (Hohner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: converting slab to mac.
Date: 27 Feb 1995 13:42:20 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
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References: <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
DAYDREAM is the product.
Contact Open Step in Colorado. They are the only registered dealer in the
U.S. as far as I know.
Steve Haynes
EQB Industries.
From: krause@math.tu-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: when you can't change your default login shell
Date: 2 Mar 1995 14:01:28 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j4j3o$k1v@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <9502270410.AA05950@alleg.EDU>
In article <9502270410.AA05950@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
writes:
> Hi
>
> I am unable to change my default login shell as a peon-user, and so I
> am stuck with 'csh'. With the NeXT this isn't a problem for most
> times I open a shell, because I can tell it to open whatever shell I
> want to when I am logged in on the console. The place where it
> becomes a problem is when I am telnetting.
>
How about
if (($?prompt) && (! $?tcsh) && (-x /usr/local/bin/tcsh)) then
if (! $?LOGINSHELL) exec /usr/local/bin/tcsh -l
exec /usr/local/bin/tcsh
endif
at the begining of your .cshrc?
Martin
=====================================================================
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Str. des 17.Juni 136, 10625 Berlin, Germany
Tel.: (+4930) 314-22978
email: krause@math.tu-berlin.de
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [tcsh] how to set completion for dwrite/dread/dremove
Date: 2 Mar 1995 12:35:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503021834.AA24913@alleg.EDU>
Am wondering how (if at all) tcsh can be programmed to complete
dwrite/dread/dremove ?
dread -o [tab] <<--would give you all the subsets of defaults
etc
anyone have any ideas?
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Talk Problems
Date: 27 Feb 1995 21:02:42 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3iteli$c81@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hello,
when someone logs onto my machine from remote, that person can't use CR or
^C in talk; instead of CR a visible ^M shows up, and ^C is simply printed.
Backspace works, and in the shell or other apps, ^C and CR do what they
should. The same is the case when I installed 2.1 talk (I am running 3.3
now). Also, it doesn't matter whether talk is called from csh, zsh, or sh.
Is there a special mapping for talk or such?
Thanks a lot,
- Stan
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+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
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| SU Computer Science | When you find yourself |
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+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: purpose of /bin/[ ?
References: <D4qqqM.1u7@demon.co.uk>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:07:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.150731.2967@proximus.north.de>
In article <D4qqqM.1u7@demon.co.uk>,
J. Kelly Cunningham <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> wrote:
>
>Can someone tell me the purpose of /bin/[ ?
This is a hard link to /bin/test. It is meant as a shortcut for test,
allowing a syntax like
if [ -f "$file" ] ; then
...
instead of
if test -f "$file" ; then
...
Some like it, others don't. Note that most shells today have it
built-in.
Gerhard.
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From: juergen@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de(J rgen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Modula compiler for Intel
Date: 2 Mar 1995 10:08:11 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <3j45eb$1ob@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Hi,
where can I find a modula compiler (even doesn t have to be good) for
NextStep (Intel)? All I ve found are for Black hardware and without
sources.
--
Bye Juergen
______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb juergen@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Does there something of a NeXTTour still exist?
Message-ID: <D4tuE2.3xr@RnA.NL>
Sender: news@RnA.NL
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 19:06:02 GMT
See subject.
Thanks,
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Talk Problems
Date: 2 Mar 1995 10:54:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503021653.AA18601@alleg.EDU>
when someone logs onto my machine from remote, that
person can't use CR or ^C in talk; instead of CR a
visible ^M shows up, and ^C is simply printed. Backspace
works, and in the shell or other apps, ^C and CR do
what they should. The same is the case when I installed
2.1 talk (I am running 3.3 now). Also, it doesn't
matter whether talk is called from csh, zsh, or sh.
I was having the same problems and it was suggested to me that I try:
stty -extproc
That solved the problem for me. The person doing the 'talk' request
should include that in their .cshrc (or whatever shell they are
using)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Pentium
Message-ID: <jpanicoD4oIro.LFH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3iauc2$4jt@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:07:00 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
David Grindrod (grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote:
: I am concidering buying a Pentium to run NeXTSTEP/OS2-Windows
: environment. Could people let me know or point me at information
: on what I need (both basic and extras) to set up a usable system.
: Such things as which graphics are required, ethernet cards, scsi
: cards etc. What things should I look out for and how much memory
: do I need.
We are using DEC pcs MTE 486 with DPT 2022 SCSI adapters, and a DELL
XPS P90 with an adaptec 1740 SCSI adaptor. We haven't had any major
problems with either system. In both cases, most S3 chipset video cards
will work. The Dell works great with the #9 beyond VGA card that Dell
ships with these suckers. I would recommend a Minimum of 16 MB RAM.
: One specific question I have is can I access the data from the
: OS2-windows partition under NeXTSTEP and vice versa.
Yes, this happens automagically, and requires no tinkering.
: Thanks in advance.
: Dave
Hope this helped.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Help! Can't creat new SwapDisk!
Message-ID: <schwettD4oItr.Hus@netcom.com>
Summary: /etc/swaptab tribulations
Keywords: swap intel
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:08:15 GMT
Sender: schwett@netcom12.netcom.com
Hi All.
I'm having trouble setting up a new swapdisk.
I'm running a Pentium/90 with a 2940 W.
The disk has one 312mb NeXTStep partition, labeled "Neuromancer"
I added the following line to /etc/swaptab:
/Neuromancer/Swap/swapfile lowat=33554432,prefer
However, on boot it fails to swap on that file. I tried creating
the file beforehand (touch), but that had no effect.
Running mach_swapon gives me:
stat: No such file or directory
mount: Device busy
mount: giving up on:
/Neuromancer/Swap/swapfile
Please Help!
Thanks...
Mark Schwettmann
mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
--
schwett@netcom.com --- mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
"
a smile cartooned tooth for tooth, you said irony was the shackles of youth
"
From: ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu (Ron Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help with getty and dial-in
Date: 2 Mar 1995 20:19:02 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j597m$9sp@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <1995Mar2.152459.17232@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Keywords: getty dial-in
Have you set up your /etc/gettytab? I have no problems with a gettytab like
this:
default:\
:ap:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\
:er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :sp#9600:
----- farther down in the gettytab file I have this (excerpted) -------
# Fixed speed entries
#
# The "std.NNN" names are known to the special case
# portselector code in getty, however they can
# be assigned to any table desired.
# The "NNN-baud" names are known to the special case
# autobaud code in getty, and likewise can
# be assigned to any table desired (hopefully the same speed).
#
-------- some definitions skipped over --------------------------
7|std.4800|4800-baud:\
:sp#4800:ht:
2|std.9600|9600-baud:\
:sp#9600:
g|std.19200|19200-baud:\
:sp#19200:
Then in the /etc/ttys file you should have the following line(s):
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttydfb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
This allows dial in at 9600 bps, and so far it works fine for me. To change
the dial in speed, change the std.* file that's given to /usr/etc/getty.
Ron Wood
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: psmith@henson.cc.wwu.edu (peter smith a)
Subject: Help with getty and dial-in
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.152459.17232@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Summary: getty not executing login
Keywords: getty dial-in
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:24:59 GMT
I am trying to dial-in to my NeXTStep box with
a modem on autoanswer. I followed the instructions
and can see the getty running. The modems at both
ends connect, but no login prompt.
Have tried many things, but still looking for
closure on this one.
Peter Smith
psmith@cc.wwu.edu
From: atlas@alpha.bin-sixx.com (Atlas Computer Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WD_1_GIG_DRIVE
Date: 2 Mar 1995 17:09:41 -0500
Organization: Binary Sixx Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j5fn5$d6k@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
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From: soonam@isse.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP emulation software?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 Mar 1995 07:25:27 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3j6g98$bof@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <3j2ijj$29m@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: I have been told that there is SLIP/PPP emulation software available which
: allows users to telnet into a machine from some starting point (to which they
: had connected via dialup) and then run the emulator on that machine, which
: allows the user to start SLIP or PPP on their local machine and have it
: communicate with the machine to which they telnetted -- via SLIP.
: Is anyone aware of software like this that runs on the NeXT? It would be
: extremely useful for a site like ours where the campus modem pool allows
: telnet connections but not direct SLIP ones.
TIA and SLIPKNOT are the software you are mantioned.
In my school TIA is installed at DEC machine. Actually you don't need
to run this software at NeXT machine. Is NeXT machine is only machine
that you have account on ? I guess you have a NeXT home.
So, first install any version of TIA at your remote machine (school)
such as SUN,DEC(OSF) etc..
You don't need to install this software at you home NeXT.Instead of TIA
you have to install SLIP at your NeXT (TIA is SLIP Emulator, at remote side)
(YOu can install SLIP at your machine,don't you?)
But here is some problem while I use this,
when I use WinSock at PC, I could disable SLIP mode and manually do dial-up
and login and run TIA at remote and back to PC and enable SLIP again.
But with NeXT SLIP, I could not disable SLIP mode.(well you may write
a script but I could not :(
So, first I did dial -up with "kermit" and after running TIA, remove the
LCK file and run SLIP at NeXT. It works... I can telnet and ftp directly
from my NeXT . But I could not execute OmniWeb (Crashed).
There might be better solution.. but sorry I don;t know.
This is waht I did with TIA...
<Soonam>
: --
: Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
: Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
: Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
: <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How do I get in touch with SmartSoft (Rocks)?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 23:19:30 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3j5jq2$1p5@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I downloaded Rocks and would like to register it, but I can't get in
touch with SmartSoft. I called their 800 number, and got a message
saying it was no longer in service. The info number (non-800)
resulted in a message saying that the cellular customer was out of
range or unavailable.
Can anyone tell me how to get in touch with these guys?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: best wordproc for NS
Date: 1 Mar 1995 22:46:56 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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References: <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In regarads to Word Processors I can tell you that Word Perfect is not a
good one to get , If you still can. I am look into OpenWrite by Zanthus
Software. They have a Beta release out and available at:
ftp.sics.se
/pub/next/beta_fat/OpenWriteBeta_1.1.gtar.gz
There are two sites in the US that have just made it available
unfortunately I don't have them with me right now. if you need them drop
me an E-Mail and I can send you them on Sunday when I return to Work.
Hope this helps you out.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anyone using 'am.1.16' with an 68030 cube
Date: 2 Mar 1995 01:51:25 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3j38at$11i3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
I was just wondering if anyone had managed to coax 'am.1.16' to work
on a 030 cube with a Zyxel (any ROM revision). If you have could
you please e-mail me with your Zyxel ROM revision number, version
of am if other than 1.16 (or really 1.15), and 030 motherboard ROM
revision number, along with version of OS and of course your first
born child.. :-)
I havn't dug into the source in great detail, but just wanted to try
it out and see. I tried ttydfb, and ttydb. I had more sucess with
ttydfb, but the sound was very choppy and definately zs overrun occured
now and then. But it did work under ttydfb, but the message was horribly
choppy, along with the message I left, and of course the modem had difficulty
hanging up the phone.
I was hoping that the TTYDSP box would work but have been informed that
it doesn't and probably would require a major effort in programming to
do it.
Anyone with any info along these lines please feel free to e-mail
address below. As to be able to use the 030 for some full
time voice mail phone duty would be very nice (rather than a 040).
Sincerely,
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: remote graphics
Date: 2 Mar 1995 17:18:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3j4uks$f2j@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: terminal emulation
I cannot get a graphics window to open when I log on through a modem
to a university--a colleague has a Mac that came over on a covered
wagon and he has a regular and a graphics window open automatic--
this is embarrassing that NeXT does not have a auto pilot on in this
catagorie--I have Stuart, Terminal, and yes X-Windows on my NeXTstation.
Somebody, somewhere, please tell me that I am an absolute moron
and then tell me how to get a graphics window opened via a modem
when logged in to a remote machine.
desperate
From: schmidt@wburg.hanse.de (Andre Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT resources on Web
Date: 3 Mar 1995 03:06:19 GMT
Organization: ISLAND wburg, Hamburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j613b$tn@wburg.hanse.de>
References: <17352E8C6S86.UC592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
K YEE writes
> Hi there,
> I had compiled quite comprehensive information on NeXT-related
> stuff in my web page. For those who are interested, plz feel free to
> drop by at URL:http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/HOMES/c592282_www/next.html
> Any flames, feedbacks, and comments are welcome. Thanks
>
Better take a look at "The Original":
http://rznext01.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/next/
(Still in german, international version under construction...)
Cya
Andre
--
# Andre Schmidt *** NeXTmail: schmidt@wburg.hanse.de #
# "Rhythm is the Sense of Life." #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould)
Subject: Re: Can print from Terminal but not Apps - help !
Message-ID: <D4v1CE.4s0@liverpool.ac.uk>
Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System)
Organization: The University of Liverpool
References: <3j4gtf$ell@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 10:33:50 GMT
In article <3j4gtf$ell@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert
Hollom) writes:
>I have got a NeXT cube hooked up to a NeXT printer . . . I can print
>stuff from the a terminal window OK by doing an lpr <filename> and
>that all works lovely. BUT I can't print from a NeXT app like Edit -
I had this problem a while ago. Check the permissions of
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd-lpr. That needs to be setuid root, and mine is
setgid wheel as well, but I don't suppose that's necessary.
Paul
--
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CTI Biology, Donnan Laboratories +44 151-794 4401 (Fax)
University of Liverpool, PO Box 147 P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk
Liverpool L69 3BX, UK (MIME/NeXTmail OK)
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From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steven Borrelli)
Subject: Re: Talk Problems
References: <9503021653.AA18601@alleg.edu>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 03:17:04 GMT
Message-ID: <D4uH4G.HEJ@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <9503021653.AA18601@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
> when someone logs onto my machine from remote, that
> person can't use CR or ^C in talk; instead of CR a
> visible ^M shows up, and ^C is simply printed. Backspace
> works, and in the shell or other apps, ^C and CR do
> what they should. The same is the case when I installed
> 2.1 talk (I am running 3.3 now). Also, it doesn't
> matter whether talk is called from csh, zsh, or sh.
>
>I was having the same problems and it was suggested to me that I try:
>
>stty -extproc
>
>That solved the problem for me. The person doing the 'talk' request
>should include that in their .cshrc (or whatever shell they are
>using)
>
>TjL
>
>--
Try 'stty cooked', too. I found that -extproc screwed up my
arrow keys.
_steve
--
Steven Borrelli borrelli@ritz.mordor.com
NeXT, MIME mail formats, finger for PGP key, blah blah blah
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PKZIP format support?
Message-ID: <1995Mar3.123921.944@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 3 Mar 95 12:39:21 WET
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) wrote:
>Help!
>I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
>me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
>into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
>version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
>Christopher Penrose
>penrose@ucsd.edu
>http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Why don't you both get a copy of the gnu zip/unzip?
--
Mike Davis.
miked@ittpub.nl
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: best wordproc for NS
Date: 1 Mar 1995 22:38:37 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3j2t1d$h9e@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu> billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill
Richardson) writes:
:Can anyone recommend a good word processor for a black box NS machine?
:
:I have WriteNow release 2 but it really sux.
:
:Commercial products, shareware, or freeware- any and all suggestions are
:welcome.
Framemaker.
It does _everything_ you'll need, and it is very effective/intuitive (once
you figure it out... ;-)
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Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: best wordproc for NS
Date: 3 Mar 1995 11:18:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j6ttu$nqq@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <3j3f3g$ktm@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
OpenWrite is a fine product, and the edu price is just about unbeatable.
The "beta" is a 1.1 beta - 1.0 with bug fixes and speed enhancements, and
some new features (which is why the 'beta', I believe).
The folks at Xanthus seem very friendly and helpful as well.
The demo is on ftp.cs.orst.edu (/pub/demos/editors? - orst is not replying
at the moment (for me))
Kurt - a happy customer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ad934@lafn.org (Chris Horton)
Subject: JOB OP IN LA - Computer Animation Tech Support
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.080414.12132@lafn.org>
Sender: news@lafn.org
Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:04:14 GMT
Cambridge Animation Systems is a leading developer of 2D animation software
used by animation studios, post production facilities, and game companies.
Our software runs on Intel PCs or HP workstations under the NeXTSTEP
operating environment. We are currently looking for someone with the
following qualifications to join our Los Angeles office as a technical
support engineer:
* Experience in technical support or a support related job
* Substantial UNIX or NeXTSTEP experience
* Familiarity with Intel PC's and peripherals
* Excellent communication skills
* An interest in the Animation Industry
* Working knowledge of animation/graphics programs
YOU MUST LIVE IN THE LA AREA. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO START RIGHT AWAY.
The job will involve phone and on site support, system setup and
installation, software demonstrations, and much more.
Please email resumes to Chris Horton at horton@cam-ani-us.com (nextmail ok)
or fax them to (818) 762-6455.
--
Chris Horton
ad934@lafn.org
From: atlas@alpha.bin-sixx.com (Atlas Computer Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <3j5fn5$d6k@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
Message-ID: <cancel.3j5fn5$d6k@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
Date: 3 Mar 1995 16:06:15 GMT
Control: cancel <3j5fn5$d6k@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
spam
From: ugap300@alpha.qmw.ac.uk (C.Kobdaj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.3 and AIC-7770
Date: 2 Mar 1995 12:40:51 -0000
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <3j4ecj$peg@alpha.qmw.ac.uk>
Hi,
We have tried to install NeXTStep 3.3 on a Pentium machine with
Intel logic EISA board (comes with a built-in Adaptec AIC-7770 ) but
NeXTStep 3.3 cannot get the slot number right. The Adaptec is on Slot 9.
We don't have any clues of how to make NeXTStep 3.3 work on this
machine. Any hints would be appreciated.
Regards,
C.Kobdaj
Physics Dept. ,
Queen Mary and Westfield College,
University of London,
E-mail: C.Kobdaj@qmw.ac.uk
From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.object
Subject: Books on Objects and transactions ?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 04:42:57 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3j3ich$iff@digdug.pencom.com>
Keywords: book, object, transaction, theory, NeXT, OpenStep, SUN
Hi -
I've seen lots of little articles about objects and transactions but
nobody talks about them in great detail. Are there any good books out
there that talk about these topics in "greater detail." ?
Thanks,
ricardo
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From: hohner@aol.com (Hohner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Service Next Printers?
Date: 3 Mar 1995 11:28:09 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3j7g2p$ek4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3ivh01$bua@newstand.syr.edu>
>The title pretty much says it all. We have a bunch of NeXT printers
>(black)
>which are starting to go belly up. Does anyone know of a company that
>will service these, preferable located in the northeast?
Contact Bell Atlantic Service
1-800-499-6398
And good luck.
Steve Haynes
EQB Industries.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS3.3 Oddities?
Date: 27 Feb 1995 23:44:30 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3ito4u$9j4@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950227081919.4639A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.950227081919.4639A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>,
Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
>Hi. I have NS3.3 on a 32MB, P90 with an Apaptec2940 and Stealth64. I'm
>running at 1280x1024x16bit@75khz color on a Sony17se.
>I've noticed a line of "dots and dashes" in some of the entries in the
>ftp site selection list of GatorFTP+ (latest release found on standard
>archives). ???
I've seen this on MY GW with an ATI XLR running 1152x820 (or whatever).
>I've also noticed that the row numbers and actual rows in MESA can get
>mis-alligned when inserting/deleting rows. (Needless to say, this can
>cause confusion.) ????
I've haven't seen this, but I will double check tonight.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: a suggestion for Mail.app
Date: 28 Feb 1995 21:35:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503010334.AA17992@alleg.EDU>
As one who has often forgotten to turn off the read receipt to a
mass-mailing, I hereby offer this suggestion which might be entirely
impossible to utilize... (that's what ya get for free)
A Mail.app preference:
Read Receipt
[ ] off
[ ] on for all messages
[ ] on for all messages with less than X recipients
(probably not to hard)
[ ] on only for recipients in the TO field
(ie not the ones in CC or BCC)
(probably entirely impossible)
thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: I need a shell script.....
Date: 3 Mar 1995 19:36:08 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3j8clo$jag@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I have what might be a simple problem to solve. I am not very experienced
in shell programing or Unix for that matter. I have only been working with
it for just over a year now. Until then I never knew Unix even exsisted. I
have grown to really love the power and flexibility of Unix. Enough about
my ignorance though. My problem is this. I have a file that has about 200
lines of text.
What I need to do is create a directory with a name matching the first
word of each line. (about 200 Directories ughh!!). I would like to use a
simple script that would read each line and create a directory
coresponding to the first word in each line. Can someone help me? Creating
these by hand will take forever. I would like to call on the power of Unix
to help me out. If need be I have been able to strip all the other data
except the first word using <tr -d> if this would make it easier.
I run NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel (csh or sh)
Thank you very much for any assistance provided.
Also if any one has any suggestions for reading material on Unix for a new
user I am open to any suggestions.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: remote graphics
In-Reply-To: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu's message of 2 Mar 1995 17:18:20 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.95Mar2175658@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <3j4uks$f2j@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:56:58 GMT
Pat Martin writes:
Pat> I cannot get a graphics window to open when I log on through a modem to
Pat> a university--a colleague has a Mac that came over on a covered wagon
Pat> and he has a regular and a graphics window open automatic-- this is
Pat> embarrassing that NeXT does not have a auto pilot on in this
Pat> catagorie--I have Stuart, Terminal, and yes X-Windows on my
Pat> NeXTstation. Somebody, somewhere, please tell me that I am an absolute
Pat> moron and then tell me how to get a graphics window opened via a modem
Pat> when logged in to a remote machine.
It sound like what you need is "term". Term is a wonderful little utility
that can get you a SLIP-like connection (including remote X) over a modem
without having to have SLIP. Basically, you run term on both ends of the
modem connections, and term multiplexes different things over that
connection, including being able to re-direct the X remote display port.
You can find term at:
ftp://bohr.physics.purdue.edu/pub/bcr/term
Grab the latest version, read the docs, and install. I use it from home to
remote display X windows from my SPARCstation on my NeXT machine.
--
Scott Byer E-Mail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Don't exhume the 70's - they looked bad then, and they didn't age well.
From: jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-Jye Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing PostScript in Chinese?
Date: 4 Mar 1995 06:43:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <3j926v$i2k@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hello,all,
I use Chinese PostScript font in my NeXTSTEP 3.3, and I want to print
PostScript in an PostScript printer without Chinese PostScript font,but
every time I choose Print -> Save, I got PostScript File without soft font,
i.e. I can't print Chinese in an PostScript printer without Chinese PostScript font.
How can I do to force NeXTSTEP to save a file with soft font?
PS. soft font: I remember if Printer has no the font,it will include in file, am I correct?
Thanks in advace.
Albert
--
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From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any NeXT application for writing music?
Date: 4 Mar 1995 07:18:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j947s$q2o@news.service.uci.edu>
Any freeware, shareware, or commercial application for writing
music with nextstep?
Thanks.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: steveh@FirePower.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: converting slab to mac.
Date: 1 Mar 1995 16:55:13 GMT
Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j28th$jc8@enquirer.FirePower.COM>
References: <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
In article <wilkin-2602951707340001@port46.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
wilkin@vitalsoft.com (Wilkin Ng) writes:
> I seem to remember a while ago there is a company selling a converter
kit
> that convert the nextstation to a mac. Anybody know the company name, or
> are they still in business?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wilkin Ng
They're called QUIX and the product is DayDream. It's now at version 2.11
and supports MacOS 7.5. I use this product almost daily and it's very
stable.
QUIX Computerware AG
Luzernerstr, 10/ Postfach
6030 Ebikon Switzerland
Tel: 041 34 88 28
Fax: 041 34 86 80
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does there something of a NeXTTour still exist?
Date: 5 Mar 1995 01:42:43 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jb4uj$2c4@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <D4tuE2.3xr@RnA.NL>
I remember the first time I saw NeXTstep 2.0 and that
app. My mouth was open in disbelief; it was one of the
coolest things I had ever seen running on a computer.
I thought, "Jeez, this app alone will launch these NeXT
systems in the mainstream once people experience a
computer teaching about itself in high quality sound
and video!"...
NeXt dropped the app by 3.0, but wasn't the technology
purchased by some ISV? I recall reading about some
screen recording app.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Getting back default file icons
Message-ID: <D4oMGA.Ip@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <D4BAv3.IqG@seas.ucla.edu>
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 23:26:33 GMT
In article <D4BAv3.IqG@seas.ucla.edu> scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
writes:
> I have recently installed Opener.app and Emacs.app (running w/ NS 3.0)
> and I was disappointed to find that they had replaced the system
> default icons for *.ps and *.tex files respectively. The tex.tiff
> file in the TeXview.app wrapper is still the original one so, where
> do I find the icon files that the system uses to display *.ps and
> *.tex files? Or is there some other way around this problem?
>
Well the Workspace has an magic way of finding the default icons. One ould
suggest that the default app decides about the icon the system will show..
Right ?
Wrong !
No one call the you how they do it.
Fixing it must be trivial...as long as you have the source. Seems like
this gub has been around for a long time now.
Let's hope that NeXTs gui guys decide to fix that for 4.0.
Aloha
Tomi
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_________________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Message-ID: <D4uxEA.J5@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:08:33 GMT
In article <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca> aw058@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Deborah L. Chubey) writes:
> In a previous posting, Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) writes:
> > In article <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art
Isbell)
> > writes:
> >> As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a
> > look-and-feel.
> >> But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as
well
> >> as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for
other
> >> OpenStep implementations like Windows?
> >
> > No. Don't mix that.
> > The choice you have is to select the "Workspace Manager" you prefer.
> > Either launching the Openstep Workspace or the CDE-VUE-like Manager.
> > By no means any Openstep app will look like a CDE app !. Maybe the
window
> > borders might...but the apps interface will always look like NeXTSTEP.
> >
> > As far as I can tell the look and feel _is_ part of the Openstep spec.
> > What they are going to do about the menu...hmmm...??? I can't tell.
> >
>
> Is there really a confilit here? Remember that there is a NS menu
...
Hi !
First of all my comments have been concerning the OpenStep implementation
Sun will deliver. Now that we get Winxxx/xxx Openstep it gets more
confusing.
Some NeXT source spoke about the Look&Fell being part of Openstep. And as
I read here yesterday someone else said this is not the case.
So I guess we really have to wait and see.
Being able to tell the system what I want to have it look like is a good
idea but it introduces more work on NeXT's sind.
Aloha
Tomi
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: [tcsh] how to set completion for dwrite/dread/dremove
In-Reply-To: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 2 Mar 1995 12:35:21 -0600
To: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma)
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:05:27 GMT
In article <9503021834.AA24913@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes:
Am wondering how (if at all) tcsh can be programmed to complete
dwrite/dread/dremove ?
dread -o [tab] <<--would give you all the subsets of defaults
etc
anyone have any ideas?
If you use a real shell (i.e. zsh), it works like this:
alldefaults ()
{
if [[$defaults = ""]]
then defaults=($(dread -l));
fi
reply=$defaults;
}
compctl -K alldefaults dread dwrite dremove
Carl Edman
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: I need a shell script.....
Date: 5 Mar 1995 15:48:34 GMT
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Mo86 (mo86@aol.com) wrote:
: I have what might be a simple problem to solve. I am not very experienced
: in shell programing or Unix for that matter. I have only been working with
: it for just over a year now. Until then I never knew Unix even exsisted. I
: have grown to really love the power and flexibility of Unix. Enough about
: my ignorance though. My problem is this. I have a file that has about 200
: lines of text.
: What I need to do is create a directory with a name matching the first
: word of each line. (about 200 Directories ughh!!). I would like to use a
: simple script that would read each line and create a directory
: coresponding to the first word in each line. Can someone help me? Creating
: these by hand will take forever. I would like to call on the power of Unix
: to help me out. If need be I have been able to strip all the other data
: except the first word using <tr -d> if this would make it easier.
: I run NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel (csh or sh)
Try this, where foo is your file. The subdirs will be created in the
current directory:
awk '{print $1 }' foo | xargs mkdir
or
awk '{print "mkdir", $1 }' foo | sh
Cheers,
Axel
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From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [tcsh] how to set completion for dwrite/dread/dremove
Date: 05 Mar 1995 16:19:26 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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To: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:05:27 GMT
<cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
>In article <9503021834.AA24913@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes:
> Am wondering how (if at all) tcsh can be programmed to complete
> dwrite/dread/dremove ?
> dread -o [tab] <<--would give you all the subsets of defaults
> etc
> anyone have any ideas?
>If you use a real shell (i.e. zsh), it works like this:
>alldefaults ()
> {
> if [[$defaults = ""]]
> then defaults=($(dread -l));
> fi
> reply=$defaults;
> }
>compctl -K alldefaults dread dwrite dremove
> Carl Edman
Hmm. I'm not sure I'd want the values. so I'd prefer something like.
then defaults=($(dread -l | awk '{print $1}'));
Carl, why do you choose to use $() over the more traditional ` ` ?
Also... didn't the compctl originate with tcsh and therefore it's
probably possible to do this in tcsh.. However, Carl is right, from
what I've seen zsh is richer in functionality.
--
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From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Anyone using 'am.1.16' with an 68030 cube
Message-ID: <1995Mar3.235526.9231@precipice.fdntytruyu.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdntytruyu.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 23:55:26 GMT
In article <3j38at$11i3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
(Randy Rencsok) writes:
> I was just wondering if anyone had managed to coax 'am.1.16' to work
> on a 030 cube with a Zyxel (any ROM revision). If you have could
>
> I havn't dug into the source in great detail, but just wanted to try
> it out and see. I tried ttydfb, and ttydb. I had more sucess with
> ttydfb, but the sound was very choppy and definately zs overrun occured
> now and then. But it did work under ttydfb, but the message was horribly
> choppy, along with the message I left, and of course the modem had difficulty
> hanging up the phone.
the problem is not with am.1.16 or with Zyxel modem. It is with NeXT serial port that is not longer optimized for 030 cube. This explain overrun messages.
Hugues.
urce in great detail, but just wanted to try
> it out and see. I tried ttydfb, and ttydb. I had more sucess with
> ttydfb, but the sound was very choppy and definately zs overrun occured
> now and then. But it did work under ttydfb, but the message was horribly
> choppy, along with the message I left, and of course the modem had difficultT$B7<(J@
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From: Eric_Litman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [tcsh] how to set completion for dwrite/dread/dremove
Date: 5 Mar 1995 13:18:09 -0600
Organization: Viaduct, Inc.
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In comp.sys.next.misc on Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:05:27 GMT Carl Edman wrote:
# In article <9503021834.AA24913@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes:
# Am wondering how (if at all) tcsh can be programmed to complete
# dwrite/dread/dremove ?
#
# dread -o [tab] <<--would give you all the subsets of defaults
# etc
#
# anyone have any ideas?
# If you use a real shell (i.e. zsh), it works like this:
Under tcsh, one way of doing it would be:
complete dread \
n@-o@\`dread\ -l\ \|\ \ awk\ \'\{\ print\ \$1\ \}\'\ \|\ sort\ \|\ uniq\`@ \
n@-n@\`dread\ -l\ \|\ awk\ \'\{\ print\ \$2\ \}\'\ \|\ sort\ \|\ uniq\`@ \
n@-g@\`dread\ -l\ \|\ grep\ GLOBAL\ \|\ awk\ \'\{\ print\ \$2\ \}\'\`@ \
c/-/"(o l n g)"/
Modify as desired for dremove/dwrite.
</eal>
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Subject: Reminding Me.....
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Reminding Me.....
That I No Longer Live
On A Diet Of Dispair
Watching the trees
Dance in rythm
with the wind
I opened up my heart
Breathing the fragrant air
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Find the Vision....
Everything is part of the system. Taking time with growth.
Connected together? We can't ignore interconnectedness.
Where do we start?
By changing the way we see the world. Are we still searching
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breath the earth takes through it's forest providing us with oxygen.
The breath of life -- linking the earth with the sky and us with
the universe. Yes! We're all part of one inseparable web of
relationships. Think about it -- the endless flow of energy going
through a multiplicity of patterns dissolving into one another.
Please embrace the Vision. I'm so glad for "renewing"
Is this a turning point for me? Each is the work of all.
Yes! The Web of Life. Where do I stand with my weaknesses;
where are the real people in this web of life. The people I Love....
"Life feels itself"......
IHT and other voices......
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Any NeXT application for writing music?
Message-ID: <1995Mar5.112523.1939@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 11:25:23 GMT
In article <3j947s$q2o@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
writes:
> Any freeware, shareware, or commercial application for writing
> music with nextstep?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Feng Liu
> Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
> University of California, Irvine
> Irvine, CA 92717
> phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
MusicTeX could do the job.
Cheers
Fabien
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From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: wanted: email for NeXT reseller, Melbourne Australia
Date: 6 Mar 1995 09:36:35 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
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dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) writes:
>It's for a friend there.
>(this represents a major "conversion" so I'm doing most of the
> legwork :) )
>If you don't have an email address, postal address or fax numbers are
>OK too. Or else the email for Xedoc, which is located in Melbourne,
>who could no doubt get me the info I need.
>Muchos gracias,
>David A. Coyle
>dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de
>MPI-Kernphysik, Heidelberg, DE
Contact details for the only NEXTSTEP distributor in Australia that
I know of:
Dave Thomas - CEO
EMail: dave@softpac.com.au
Work: 61-2-214 2692
FAX: 61-2-436 1336
Softpac
32a Market Street
Naremburn 2065
Sydney Australia
Xedoc also have distribution rights, I believe, but choose not to.
For contacting Xedoc, try:
Matthew Pryor, Director
EMail: jmp@xedoc.com.au
Work: 61-3-214 0110
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Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam.
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Date: 6 Mar 1995 09:38:38 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
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greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) writes:
>After installing OS/2 BootManager, I successfully installed OS/2 Warp and
>DOS/Windows. Then I installed NextStep 3.3. Unfortunately, after installing
>NextStep, I could only boot Dos and NextStep. Has anybody successfully
>installed all three on a single system?
>[RANT ON]
>I just plopped the old NextStep install disk in my new Micron P90 and it
>auto-recognized everything. I just needed to reset the IRQ on my new EtherNet
>card and things "just worked". NextStep just screams on the machine.
>However, every time I boot into any of the other OSs, I get depressed. I
>realize that it may take those OSs another five to ten years before they get to
>where NeXTStep was three years only. And they may never be as asthetically
>pleasing. In my opinion, OS/2 is far nicer to use the DOS/Windows, but it is
>still not nearly as nice as NeXTStep. Sigh...
>[RANT OFF]
>To prevent any rumors or speculation, this is for my home machine.
>Greg Kostello
The NS boot loader allows NS, Dos, and up to four other partitions by
number. It's not as pretty, but can't you boot OS/2 as one of the
numbered partitions?
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Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam.
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PC PKZIP format support?
Date: 5 Mar 1995 22:31:07 GMT
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In article <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu
(Christopher Penrose) writes:
>
> Help!
>
> I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
> me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
> into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
> version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
>
>
> Christopher Penrose
> penrose@ucsd.edu
> http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
I use a handy little NeXT Step application called Opener. It opens
(uncompresses) everything.
You can contact the authors:
Michael Hawley
mike@media-lab.mit.edu
Denise Howard
howardd@swissbank.com
Jonas.
From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: Optical Disk not loading
Date: 3 Mar 1995 03:56:22 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <3j6416$cfn@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Hi,
We are unable to mount our optical disk - I am not sure if this
started to happen after we installed the 3.2 operating system. As soon as
I load the Optical disk, it just scans it for a while and just spits it
out. No console errors. Any suggestion as to how to solve this problem
will be appreciated.
If possible please reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
Thanks
Balu, T
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From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla)
Subject: Re: best wordproc for NS
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.150737.1334@ccdd.com>
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Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development
References: <3it7iu$gak@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:07:37 GMT
Bill Richardson writes
> Can anyone recommend a good word processor for a black box NS machine?
>
> I have WriteNow release 2 but it really sux.
>
> Commercial products, shareware, or freeware- any and all suggestions are
> welcome.
I have been very pleased with WriteUp (Anderson Financial Systems) since I have
been using it (2-3 months now).
--
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From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: Quickcam and Black HW
Message-ID: <1995Mar5.212639.18405@il.us.swissbank.com>
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 21:26:39 GMT
Thomas Engel writes
>
> I fuess a bigger problme is to get the raw data into NeXTSTEPs memory. As
> far as I remember there is no spec for the format the camera delivers over
> the wire.
> NeXTIME should be the smaller problem.
I believe it's meant to be accessed as a QuickTime data source. It "just
works"- Quicktime senses it as a QuickTime device, and grabs its input.
(In theory) NeXTTime should be able to do the same, though it may be
necessary to write some sort of driver- something like the Panasonic
Laser Disc driver that's already in it, perhaps.
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of
Vanguard Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or
undead is entirely coincidental.
From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Date: 6 Mar 1995 05:59:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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In article <3jdehe$h3u@pub.kau2.kodak.com> cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
writes:
> The NS boot loader allows NS, Dos, and up to four other partitions by
> number. It's not as pretty, but can't you boot OS/2 as one of the
> numbered partitions?
> --
> =============================================================================
> Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
> (61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
> Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam.
Yes, you can boot any of those numbered partitions to get into OS/2 or whatever
you have. That's what I did at first.
But if you really like the OS/2 boot manager, then you can remove the NS boot
manager entirely and then set the OS/2 boot manager as the active partition.
This is what I'm doing right now, and I don't have to see the NS boot manager
anymore.
The easiest way to remove the NS boot manager (well, for me at least) was to do
it from within DOS; just issue the following command:
fdisk /mbr
this will make the boot record. Then, set the OS/2 boot manager as the active
partition, assuming it's already installed on the harddrive.
Hope this helps,
--Faizel
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From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Combining Poscript pages
Date: 6 Mar 1995 06:10:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3je91j$84o@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
I'm wondering how to combine separate pages in PostScript and
make them into one big mutli-page Postscript file ?
Help appreciated.
--
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http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 6 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3je5os$ds7@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Future@Monitor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
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From: thiel@ife.ee.ethz.ch (Andreas Thiel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenStep for SUN
Date: 6 Mar 1995 16:44:44 GMT
Organization: Institute for Electronics, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jfe5t$pjb@elna.ethz.ch>
Hi folks,
I'm wondering when OpenStep for SUN will definitely be shipped.
Any suggestion is appreciated.
Thanks
Andi
--
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Andreas Thiel
Electronics Laboratory | Institut fuer Elektronik
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich | ETH Zuerich
Gloriastrasse 35 | Gloriastrasse 35
|
CH-8092 Zurich | CH-8092 Zuerich
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From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does there something of a NeXTTour still exist?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 15:13:21 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3jftth$857@ivy.bga.com>
References: <D4tuE2.3xr@RnA.NL> <3jb4uj$2c4@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3jb4uj$2c4@news.ycc.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>I remember the first time I saw NeXTstep 2.0 and that
>app. My mouth was open in disbelief; it was one of the
>coolest things I had ever seen running on a computer.
>I thought, "Jeez, this app alone will launch these NeXT
>systems in the mainstream once people experience a
>computer teaching about itself in high quality sound
>and video!"...
>
>NeXt dropped the app by 3.0, but wasn't the technology
>purchased by some ISV? I recall reading about some
>screen recording app.
>
>--
>Nathan Janette
>Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
>
>Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
>Voice: 203 432 5065
>Fax: 203 432 3923
NeXT didn't come out with an updated GuidedTourfor 3.0 because of lack
of manpower to produce it. GuidedTour used the NXJournaler object to
record events which were played back within a special Tour account set
up for that purpose (a bit of a kludge -- I know, I was responsible
for it).
The ShowAndTell app that was distributed with 2.0 was used to produce
the GuidedTour. There was a company that produced an app called
Parrot that also used NXJournaling similar to ShowAndTell. I don't
think they are around anymore.
My company, Otherwise, produces a screen recording application called
WatchMe. It is based on totally different technology. Rather than
using the NXJournaler, WatchMe records the actual bits drawn to the
screen. The apps that are recorded are not needed during playback.
Contact me if you are interested in further information.
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: Ver65Osc@sparta.sjsu.edu (Oscar Vera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP! Can't load new system 3.0.
Date: 6 Mar 1995 19:47:23 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <Ver65Osc-0603951155350001@physlab2.sjsu.edu>
I have a 030 NeXT that has 1.0 and am trying to load 3.0. I have the
Daynafile external floppy drive that has the 5.25 and 3.5" slots. I have
followed the instructions for installing and the comp says it can not read
the drive. It is the CDRom upgrade, and now the drive does not recognize
the CDROM tools (It did before though). So I need
-Someone who knows what is going on
or
-a copy of the CDROM tools again
or
-a copy of 2.0 on OD so I can boot
or
-a NeXT external floppy drive that works with 1.0 and 030
or
-A life beyond NeXT OS!!!!
Thanks abunch,
Oscar
Ver65Osc@sparta.sjsu.edu
--
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [tcsh] how to set completion for dwrite/dread/dremove
Date: 6 Mar 1995 22:43:50 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3jg376$7ms@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <CEDMAN.95Mar4200528@freedom.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman writes
> If you use a real shell (i.e. zsh), it works like this:
>
> alldefaults ()
> {
> if [[$defaults = ""]]
> then defaults=($(dread -l));
> fi
> reply=$defaults;
> }
>
> compctl -K alldefaults dread dwrite dremove
Better is
alldefaults ()
{
if [[$defaults = ""]]
then defaults=($(dread -l | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq));
fi
reply=$defaults;
}
You only want the names of the apps, not all the defaults themselves,
especially since the defaults tend to start with " marks and numbers,
and hence appear first in the completion. The _complete_ solution
would match the FIRST words of 'dread -l' as the first-word completion,
match the SECOND words of 'dread -o foo' as the second-word completion
after 'd{read,write,remove} foo', and match the THIRD word (or quoted
string) of 'dread -n bar' as the third-word completion after
'd{read,write,remove} foo bar'. Oh, and it should complete hyphens
with -g, -n, and -o, and complete GLOBAL 2nd words after -g, 1st words
after -o, and 2nd words after -n. This should all be easy to do, but I
can't keep my head around the syntax, and always have to grovel
through the manpage from scratch. Carl, can you write what I just
described without getting a headache? Thanks!
``In Managua, people are cheering in +--------------------------------------+
the streets, which are deserted.'' | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 |
-- CBS correspondent, during | burton@het.brown.edu |
total eclipse, 11 July 1991 +--------------------------------------+
From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Upgrading floppy-less '030 to NS 3.3
Date: 6 Mar 1995 19:18:55 GMT
Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation
Message-ID: <3jfn6v$3t@news.jf.intel.com>
I'm upgrading an old '030 floppy-less NeXT Cube from
NS 2.1 to 3.3, and I know that I need to get a program to
allow the Cube to boot the CD (according to FAQ Subject G15).
My question is, where can I find this program on the
ftp archives? What's it called exactly? If I can get the files
on the floppy over to my hard drive somehow will I be o.k., or
do I absolutely need to boot off of a floppy drive?
I remember this subject being beaten to death when NS 3.0
came out a few years ago, but now that I'm interested, I can't
find the info...
Scott
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Message-ID: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: game
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 22:00:14 GMT
Astraloids.app is now available on:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
Astraloids is an Asteroids type arcade game with a few additions
to the original. The graphics for the game are fully rendered.
Unique (at least for Asteroids clones under NeXTSTEP) is the addition
of animated asteroids. The total installed size is ~4.5MB. It may
just be the definitive mission critical application for NeXTSTEP.
Asteroids is being distributed as a shareware game for $15. More
information is included in the on-line help.
Enjoy. Please include "Astraloids" in the subject line of any mail
you e-send me!
Thank you,
Mike Stepniczka
step@il.us.swissbank.com
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: best wordproc for NS
Date: 6 Mar 1995 23:32:34 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3jg62i$9cu@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <1995Mar2.150737.1334@ccdd.com>
In article <1995Mar2.150737.1334@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla)
writes:
> Bill Richardson writes
> > Can anyone recommend a good word processor for a black box NS machine?
> >
> > I have WriteNow release 2 but it really sux.
> >
> > Commercial products, shareware, or freeware- any and all suggestions
are
> > welcome.
>
> I have been very pleased with WriteUp (Anderson Financial Systems) since
I have
> been using it (2-3 months now).
>
> --
> Chris Cuilla
>
> ccuilla@ccdd.com (NeXT mail accepted)
Having used WriteNow, WordPerfect, WriteUp, and OpenWrite (as well as
Pages and FrameMaker), I like OpenWrite. It's still a little slow in its
1.1 manifestation, but it has all of the features I need in a powerful
word processor.
Incidently, OpenSource sells all of the above-mentioned products with the
obvious exception of WriteNow and the recent exception of WordPerfect
which officially abandoned NEXTSTEP as of December 31,1994. Still, my
opinions are mine alone. Let me know if you'd like more information about
any of the above-mentioned products.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Iomega ZIP drives?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 04:29:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3jgnfh$drv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I looked at the latest MacWarehouse (#40) and saw on page 25 the new Iomega
ZIP drive. The drive costs $199.00 and 3.5" 100MB disks cost $14.95 (qty 10).
It says that its seek time is 29ms and has a transfer rate of 1.25MB/s.
Now I know that this drive is dog slow compared to a hard drive, it seems
that this would be a fine alternative to expensive 3.5" MO drives. Does
anyone know if it will work with NeXTSTEP? (and on black HW in particular)?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Tektronics Emulator for NeXT?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 00:44:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3jdlss$drr@mark.ucdavis.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.software ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 5 Mar 1995 22:52:12 GMT ]
Does sucha a thing exist to exprot graphics from a remote machine--there
is no way to get a graphics window opened. What's the deal?
pcm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads)
Subject: Video Input for NSFIP?
Message-ID: <jrhoadsD51t0H.3xD@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 02:17:05 GMT
Sender: jrhoads@netcom8.netcom.com
Hello. Are there any software/hardware packages that provide
video (NTSC) input and editing for NeXTStep 3.3 on Intel boxes?
Thanks for your help!
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Jason R. Rhoads
Frontier Technology Inc.
530 E. Montecito St., Suite 105
Santa Barbara, CA 93103-3245
Phone: (805)-965.2477
Fax: (805)-965.2478
email: jrhoads@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: IHT mailing list...
Message-ID: <D528r4.822@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
References: <Future.113.007B0BB3@Monitor>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 07:57:03 GMT
In article <Future.113.007B0BB3@Monitor> Future@Monitor writes:
[a lot of commercial, scientology-like garbage]
[automatically single-posted to *.*]
> IHT's next Event will be around May/June95 at Fort Mason.
> This will be a Powerful Lecture from the writer of his New book.
> This Lecture will be of passion,real humyn feeling...... this will
> be a life changing experience for you. Write: "IHT" at
> P.O.Box 20594 Piedmont Calif. 94620
> checks payable to IHT or if sending cash... please wrap donation
> with your address... Thank You....
I'd like to send them a letter bomb, but unfortunately it is illegal
to mail large amounts of highly explosive stuff overseas from Germany :-)
Could someone in the US give me a helping hand?
BTW their real address seems to be Future@dsb4ws01.comp.pge.com
--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) MIME & NeXTmail
Q: I think my PC is broken.
A: Really? How can you tell?
From: Epicurean <den10045@leonis.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What do you think of this system?
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 05:06:03 +0800
Organization: National University of Singapore
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950305050535.5181A-100000@leonis.nus.sg>
References: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu>
What is the latest version of the Neptune chipset...
What's 's new with the Triton chipset??
thanks..
JOn..
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: recycler on other disks?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 16:18:41 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ji111$bmk@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
in our environment we have many cross mounted disks. If I try to move files
from such a disk to the recycler, I get the message:
Folder /bla/bla/blabla is located on a disk without recycler. Continuing will
really destroy the files.
How can I install a recycler on such a disk? I searched in the on-line docu,
but could not find any references to such a case.
Thanks for your help,
bye,
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S |
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: recycler on other disks?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 16:32:39 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ji1r7$dj7@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <3ji111$bmk@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In article <3ji111$bmk@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) writes:
> Folder /bla/bla/blabla is located on a disk without recycler. Continuing
will
> really destroy the files.
>
> How can I install a recycler on such a disk?
Sorry to waste bandwidth with this, I just found the answer in NextAnswers on
WWW! The key point is that you have to REBOOT the NeXT to make the new
recycler known!!
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S |
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: powell@tropic (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Tektronics Emulator for NeXT?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 15:28:41 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3jhu39$lmc@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <3jdlss$drr@mark.ucdavis.edu>
There are two I know of:
Communicae from Active Ingredients Inc. at (617) 576-2000 and Cables
(dont have their number). Commuunicae lets us save the tektronix
graphics as .eps files.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP-General-FAQ
References: <3jehn9$c4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 06:45:21 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar7.064521.1474@proximus.north.de>
This is a short shellscript that uses awk to split the FAQ-files from
Nathan in single files of the form
NEXTSTEP-General-FAQ_4
(the 4th subject of the NEXTSTEP-General-FAQ), suitable for indexing
with Librarian. It extracts the files in /tmp and expects the format
Nathan uses at the moment. You might want to change /tmp to whereever
you have your FAQs. (I use /LocalLibrary/FAQ/NeXT)
To use it, just select all articles with your favourite newsreader and
pipe them into this little program or just save them (with the
header!) and call this program to split the saved postings. Assuming
that this script is called faqsplit and is located in /usr/local/scripts
you can issue the following commands in trn:
/FAQ To select all FAQ-postings.
:|/usr/local/scripts/faqsplit To call the script.
Of course: Use it at your own risk.
Also if you encounter an error, I really would be glad to hear about
it...
Gerhard.
-----8< ------ cut here -------- >8----------
:
#
# Program to split NeXT FAQ file into individual Q/A files
# Just select all articles in comp.sys.next.announce that contain FAQs
# and pipe them into this program. The single FAQ-files get splitted
# in /tmp, ready for moving them to a place that suits Librarian.
# Of course this only works as long as Nathan stays with the current
# format of the FAQ... ;-)
#
# 3/7/95 Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de>
# Start of article marker, also the name of the FAQ.
section='^Archive-name: N[eE]XT.*$'
# End of article marker
end='^Article [0-9]* of .*:$'
# Start of a FAQ item
item='^Subject: .[0-9]*.*$'
# End of a FAQ item
mark='^____________________________________________________________________________$'
# Number of the current topic (The topic and this number must be unique)
number='substr($2, 2, length($2) - 2)'
# Name of the FAQ to save, consisting of the topic and a number
name='"/tmp/" $2 "_"'
echo "Expanding FAQ in /tmp..."
# Extracting the single articles with the topics
awk "/$section/,/$end/ { print }" $* | \
# Extracting the topics inside the articles
awk "/$section/ { name = $name }; /$item/ { file = name $number; print file }; /$item/,/$mark/ { print > file }"
From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: when you can't change your default login shell
Date: 3 Mar 1995 16:11:34 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j7f3m$4q0@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3j4j3o$k1v@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
> >
> > I am unable to change my default login shell as a peon-user, and so I
> > am stuck with 'csh'. With the NeXT this isn't a problem for most
> > times I open a shell, because I can tell it to open whatever shell I
> > want to when I am logged in on the console. The place where it
> > becomes a problem is when I am telnetting.
> >
I know the Terminal has a preference for the startup shell it uses. I
think NeXT has a field in UserManager or one of the other NextAdmin apps
that determines the startup shell. You need to include the shell in
/etc/shells if it is not there already. You might also want to check out
chsh or passwd -s.
--
Dion Dock Paradigm Systems
\\||//
--DOOM--
Product Delivery, Axys project. //||\\ dion.dock@mccaw.com
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Computer Modern Font
Date: 7 Mar 1995 23:56:14 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jirqu$19gl@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
If an FAQ, could somebody please point me in the right direction...
I use LaTeX on a regular basis. Love the output. I just recently
purchased OpenWrite and am trying to move to something that will let me
worry less about the formatting details. However, I'm not impressed with
the font selection. Is there a computer modern roman available?
- Steve
--
=================================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu |
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 |
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT portables
Date: 7 Mar 1995 20:20:15 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <3jif5v$gb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hi,
I'm starting to think about getting a portable, and would like to
be able to run NS on it. I'd appreciate any input from current
NS portable users about both the hardware they bought and the
pitfalls they've faced running NS (e.g. power management, NS on a
small screen).
thanks,
rosie
P.S. BTW, I'd be using this system for data plotting, DTP (LaTeX),
and simple programming.
From: dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 7 Mar 1995 17:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ji6jh$qp0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <D4Hz5p.GI@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca>
aw058@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Deborah L. Chubey) wrote:
>I am worried when I don't see much advertizing for OpenStep...I hope
thay
>don't drop the ball.
Amen!
But what should _we_ do about it?
Dave
dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mckameym@csl-emh1.army.mil (Mark D. McKamey)
Subject: Next Inc. Phone/E-mail info Requested
Message-ID: <D52tv4.Fvu@pica.army.mil>
Sender: usenet@pica.army.mil (USENET Special Account <usenet>)
Organization: USAWC-CSL
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:28:56 GMT
Hello,
Can someone please let me know the Next Inc. Sales phone number or e-mail
address. Thank you,
Mark D. McKamey
mckameym@csl-emh1.army.mil
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep look-and-feel
Date: 7 Mar 1995 16:27:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ji1hb$csq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <D4uxEA.J5@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
In article <D4uxEA.J5@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas
Engel) writes:
> In article <D4L5uH.LIK@freenet.carleton.ca> aw058@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Deborah L. Chubey) writes:
> > In a previous posting, Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) writes:
> > > In article <3iidu5$auf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art
> Isbell)
> > > writes:
> > >> As several have pointed out, OpenStep doesn't specify a
> > > look-and-feel.
> > >> But OpenStep/Solaris reportedly supports a NS-like look-and-feel as
> well
> > >> as a CDE look-and-feel; user's choice. Will the same be true for
> other
> > >> OpenStep implementations like Windows?
> > >
> > > No. Don't mix that.
> > > The choice you have is to select the "Workspace Manager" you prefer.
> > > Either launching the Openstep Workspace or the CDE-VUE-like Manager.
> > > By no means any Openstep app will look like a CDE app !. Maybe the
> window
> > > borders might...but the apps interface will always look like
NeXTSTEP.
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell the look and feel _is_ part of the Openstep
spec.
> > > What they are going to do about the menu...hmmm...??? I can't tell.
> > >
> >
> > Is there really a confilit here? Remember that there is a NS menu
> ...
>
> First of all my comments have been concerning the OpenStep
implementation
> Sun will deliver. Now that we get Winxxx/xxx Openstep it gets more
> confusing.
> Some NeXT source spoke about the Look&Fell being part of Openstep. And
as
> I read here yesterday someone else said this is not the case.
>
> So I guess we really have to wait and see.
>
> Being able to tell the system what I want to have it look like is a good
> idea but it introduces more work on NeXT's sind.
>
I received private email from a NeXT employee who said that NeXT had
publicly committed to support the Windows look-and-feel with
OpenStep/Windows. So users of OpenStep apps under Windows will likely be
unaware of their underpinnings (except for their awesome capabilities, of
course :-)
This approach is good for users, but will be more difficult for NeXT
to implement well because of the translation from NEXTSTEP UI objects to
those used by Windows. It may also mean that some lowest common
denominator functional sacrifices may occur as well as difficulty in
taking advantage of some unusual Windows features (there are some, right
?-)
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
From: scott.kamp@onlinesys.com (SCOTT KAMP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Next
Message-ID: <8A4E564.0CC30000AD.uuout@onlinesys.com>
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 95 23:00:00 -300
Distribution: world
Organization: Online Systems Of Canada
Heheheh call me goofy but NEXT
ok im game what isit , where is it
how can i get it, and whats it gonna cost me
can i run it on a 80486dx66, can im run dos based programs
X-Dos Micro? What Bill? Who Gates .... yes i have a front gate
Sorry....
Hi ALL , hope you are having a nice day
DDD?
@DDD> Yours sincerely, Scott Kamp
___ Terminate 1.51/Pro
~ TerMail/QWK ~ Have you ever been TERMINATED by Dos ?
From: rohit@wolfe.net (Rohit Fedane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing to a UNIX printer
Date: 7 Mar 1995 19:56:50 GMT
Organization: WOLFE Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Does anyone know how to print from a Mac to a Next or UNIX
printer ? I am not very familiar with Macs so tell me any
everything that there is to know on the subject.
Thanks a million!
PS. Let me know if there any FAQs on the subject and where I can
get them.
Rohit Fedane
rohit@wolfe.net
From: randallc@ix.netcom.com (Randall Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Windows NT3.5 Workstation for sale
Date: 8 Mar 1995 07:17:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jjlll$6sm@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3ilmkr$2mq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <3ioduh$2v1@agate.berkeley.edu> <Pine.OSF.3.91.950305050535.5181A-100000@leonis.nus.sg>
NT3.5 Workstation.
CDROM, full docs and manual, registerable, complete for $150 delivered
in the U.S.
-randy
From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 7 Mar 1995 14:08:57 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3jhpdp$bh1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mike Stepniczka (step@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: Astraloids.app is now available on:
: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
Cool game. Plug a set of head-phones into you're monitor and play it that
way. The stereo sound makes quite a difference.
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT portables
Date: 8 Mar 1995 09:18:21 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3jjsot$1dn@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <3jif5v$gb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <3jif5v$gb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> srosie@umich.edu
(Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> Hi,
> I'm starting to think about getting a portable, and would like to
> be able to run NS on it. I'd appreciate any input from current
> NS portable users about both the hardware they bought and the
> pitfalls they've faced running NS (e.g. power management, NS on a
> small screen).
>
SPARC Voyager2. Very expensive, but fabulous. It just doesn't get any better.
Faster than a NeXTstation Turbo, full megapixel 8-bit colour LCD display, just
wonderful. Not a laptop, and again, expensive, but probably the absolute
perfect "portable" NEXTSTEP machine.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: david@onestep.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT portables
Date: 8 Mar 1995 11:35:19 GMT
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <3jk4pn$cle@marble.Britain.EU.net>
References: <3jjsot$1dn@xexos.xexos.com>
In article <3jjsot$1dn@xexos.xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark
Chamberlain) writes:
> In article <3jif5v$gb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
srosie@umich.edu
[munch]
> SPARC Voyager2. Very expensive, but fabulous. It just doesn't get
any better.
> Faster than a NeXTstation Turbo, full megapixel 8-bit colour LCD
display, just
> wonderful. Not a laptop, and again, expensive, but probably the
absolute
> perfect "portable" NEXTSTEP machine.
Couple of additional points to add. Max disk size is 300MB though a
810MB drive will be shipping in the next 30 days. Also the price has
just been cut in the UK by 3,000 Pounds
>
---
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions plc | UK phone: 01702 551010 | Vendors of NS
351-359 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | Hardware, Apps
Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | MCCAs, Networks
Essex | | ISDN, Training
SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance
England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Recent Fiend binary submission
Date: 8 Mar 1995 08:40:40 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3jkc4o$5h2@panix.com>
Hi.
Someone just made me aware of the fact that there
had been a submission of a binary (NIH) copy of
Fiend1.0 to orst.
I have removed this copy, since it is very old and
buggy - the only reason that I let the old copy
stay out there is for people to see some source
examples. Also, there is already a binary version
1.0 of Fiend on the German archive sites.
To the original poster: I apologize for deleting,
rather than renaming the file - I wasn't thinking clearly,
this morning, and I realize that simply renaming
would have taken care of things.
To everyone else: please use either Fiend 1.2 or 1.3,
both of which are on the archive sites, compiled triple
and quad-fat, respectively. (Pick your version according
to which bugs you like better ;-) Fiend 1.3 is much
nicer feature-wise, but has introduced a couple of
stupid bugs that may bite you. I suggest trying
version 1.3 first, and if you get bitten by its bugs,
then try the older one.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rupi@ceco.ceco.com (Rupinder Bains)
Subject: Astraloids!!!
Message-ID: <D51DuD.3pF@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Company
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 20:49:25 GMT
I just downloaded a game called Astraloids from ftp.cs.orst.edu which is a spin-off
of the Asteroids game. It is excellent!! The graphics are top-notch and all the
motion is very smooth and uninterrupted. The sound effects are rather good also.
Just thought everyone would like to know about it!
Thanks.
From: paul@pth.com (Paul Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: I need a shell script.....
Date: 4 Mar 1995 05:52:03 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3j8v63$gs5@news.primenet.com>
References: <3j8clo$jag@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Howdy,
In article <3j8clo$jag@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mo86@aol.com (Mo86) writes:
> What I need to do is create a directory with a name matching the first
> word of each line. (about 200 Directories ughh!!). I would like to use a
> simple script that would read each line and create a directory
> coresponding to the first word in each line. Can someone help me?
Creating
> these by hand will take forever. I would like to call on the power of
Unix
> to help me out. If need be I have been able to strip all the other data
> except the first word using <tr -d> if this would make it easier.
> I run NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel (csh or sh)
Try
awk {'print $1'} filename | xargs -i -t mkdir {}
be sure to run it in sh, not csh... And change filename to your
file.
See ya,
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (paul@pth.com)
(Home) 602-690-7982 (Fax) 602-690-7991
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Stealth on moto?
Message-ID: <1995Mar8.215411.803@titan.sfasu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 8 Mar 95 21:54:11 CST
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
Has anyone compiled Stealth on moto hardware?
-- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: HELP: MailSendDemo doesn't work in Mail 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Mar7.170059.9471@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:00:59 GMT
Suppose I want to allow the user to select "Suggestion" in my app menu and
have a Mail compose window appear, already filled out with my e-mail
address, a subject, and some message text. In the past this was easy
enough to implement by utilizing the MailSendDemo API of Mail.app.
However, I just noticed that this no longer works with Mail 3.3. Does
anyone how to work around this? Is there still a way?
Denise
--
Denise Howard \/ howardd@swissbank.com
Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
(312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: VirtSpace: where is Pinnacle Inc?
Message-ID: <D53s5G.2q7@nyro.com>
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software.
References: <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:53:39 GMT
They are no longer in business.
VirtSpace is available from:
NYRO Technix, Inc.
236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341
San Francisco CA 94127
415 664-1170 voice
415 664-5530 fax
NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm),
Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm),
On-Vacation(tm), ReadReceiptPlus(tm) and
other NEXTSTEP software.
In article <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu> dreed@orion.it.luc.edu (Dale F.
Reed) writes:
> I'm looking for a virtual space manager and happened across VirtSpace.
> It is a limited-time demo but can be purchased for relatively little
> money. The only problem is there is no one to buy it FROM anymore.
>
> I can't find Pinnacle Research, Inc. either through their e-mail
address,
> or phone number. The latest information I had for them (which doesn't
> work) is:
> Pinnacle Research, Inc.
> 4725 E. Sunrise Dr. #435
> Tucson, AZ 85718
>
> virtspace@pri.com (NeXT mail)
> (602)529-1135 (Voice)
> (602)299-9133 (FAX)
>
> Anyone know where I can get ahold of them? Thanks!
>
> Dale Reed
> reed@math.luc.edu
>
From: tyanagis@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Takeshi Yanagisawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Getting back default file icons
Date: 8 Mar 95 14:52:42
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <TYANAGIS.95Mar8145242@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
References: <D4BAv3.IqG@seas.ucla.edu> <D4oMGA.Ip@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
In-reply-to: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org's message of Mon, 27 Feb 1995 23:26:33 GMT
>> I have recently installed Opener.app and Emacs.app (running w/ NS 3.0)
>> and I was disappointed to find that they had replaced the system
>> default icons for *.ps and *.tex files respectively. The tex.tiff
>> file in the TeXview.app wrapper is still the original one so, where
>> do I find the icon files that the system uses to display *.ps and
>> *.tex files? Or is there some other way around this problem?
I suppose you can fix this problem if you try one of the followings:
1) Set the database "Workspace ApplicationPaths" properly.
If TeXview.app is on /NextDeveloper/Demos and Preview.app is on
/NeXtApps, please try
% dwrite Workspace ApplicationPaths \
/NextDeveloper/Demos:/NextApps and so on ...
But if Opener.app and Emacs.app are on your dock, their icons will
be chosen regardless of ApplicationPaths.
2) (radical way) Replace the icon of *.ps and *.tex in Opener and
Emacs binaries using segedit(1) command.
Ex.
% segedit Opener -replace __ICON docPS docPSNew.tiff -o OpenerNew
In this example,
"docPSNew.tiff" is your favorite icon to display *.ps file.
"OpenerNew" is the new excutable which the icon is replaced.
My English may be broken, please be patient ...
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From: opus@athena.mit.edu (David C. Jedlinsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing to a UNIX printer
Date: 8 Mar 1995 16:01:16 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3jkkcc$onh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net>
In article <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net> rohit@wolfe.net (Rohit Fedane) writes:
>Does anyone know how to print from a Mac to a Next or UNIX
>printer ? I am not very familiar with Macs so tell me any
>everything that there is to know on the subject.
Check out InterPrint by InterCon Systems - they have a demo on
ftp.intercon.com. I just got the demo for my Mac, and it works as
advertised to my NeXT.
-Dave Jedlinsky
opus@mit.edu
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to create Help files in App
Date: 7 Mar 1995 21:58:24 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <3jiku0$ovo@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Could someone point me toward a place on the system where there is information
about how to add your own text to the Help portion of an App? There is *no*
information in ProjectBuilder's own Help about this.
Thanks.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: John Dawson <jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
Subject: Talus device drivers (or other 3rd party drivers)
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308145032.49109C-100000@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:22:19 GMT
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: IBM Austin
Where can I find information on the price and availability of Talus and
other third-party device drivers for NEXTSTEP?
I'm primarily interested in these kinds of drivers, but information
about any available drivers would be appreciated:
PCI video drivers
PCI SCSI adapters (prefer wide, fast, SCSI-2)
PCI or ISA sound drivers
--
jdawson@tkg.com (John Dawson)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: when you can't change your default login shell
Date: 8 Mar 1995 12:08:07 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503081807.AA21857@alleg.EDU>
> > I am unable to change my default login shell as
> > a peon-user, and so I am stuck with 'csh'. With
> > the NeXT this isn't a problem for most times I
> > open a shell, because I can tell it to open whatever
> > shell I want to when I am logged in on the console.
> > The place where it becomes a problem is when I am
> > telnetting.
I know the Terminal has a preference for the startup
shell it uses. I think NeXT has a field in UserManager
or one of the other NextAdmin apps that determines
the startup shell. You need to include the shell in
/etc/shells if it is not there already. You might
also want to check out chsh or passwd -s.
chsh and passwd -s don't work on our system -- you can't change the
info with NetInfo, if you try you get
"Cannot change finger information or shell with NetInfo (yet)."
In addition, tcsh is not installed on all the NeXTs here (or any, for
that matter). Because we are workstations all over campus, it would
have to be. It is only possible through having tcsh in my
~/Unix/bin.
I know that Terminal has a preference (as does Stuart), but, as I
said, the place it becomes a problem is when I am telnetting, where
the Terminal/Stuart preferences are not checked.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Quickcam and Black HW
Message-ID: <D52H6A.Au@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <1995Mar5.212639.18405@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:58:57 GMT
In article <1995Mar5.212639.18405@il.us.swissbank.com> hendryj@mcs.com
writes:
> Thomas Engel writes
> >
> > I fuess a bigger problme is to get the raw data into NeXTSTEPs memory.
As
> > far as I remember there is no spec for the format the camera delivers
over
> > the wire.
> > NeXTIME should be the smaller problem.
>
> I believe it's meant to be accessed as a QuickTime data source. It "just
> works"- Quicktime senses it as a QuickTime device, and grabs its input.
> (In theory) NeXTTime should be able to do the same, though it may be
> necessary to write some sort of driver- something like the Panasonic
> Laser Disc driver that's already in it, perhaps.
> --
Yes..this is definitly correct.
But as long as your serial port won't transfer the data...no driver will
be able to work correctly.
Now NeXTIME has components for cameras and the packages design should not
have big problems to get the software part right...(ok we must wait for NS
4.0.)
I'm still not sure if the hardware interface is possible...if you don't
have any specs for it.
Aloha
Tomi
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_________________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
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Germany
From: mcnichol@khan (Brendan T. McNichols)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Seeking suggestions on CD-ROM drives & modems for black hardware
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:31:10 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse NY, USA
Message-ID: <3jne0v$qeq@newstand.syr.edu>
Hi all,
I am considering purchasing a NEC CDR-74-1 CD-ROM drive, but first I wanted
to make sure that it would work properly with my black hardware ('25Mhz mono,
NS 3.2). Does anyone out there have any experience with this drive?
Alternatively, if anyone has any suggestions on other CD-ROM's in the
$150-$220 range, I'd really appreciate hearing about them.
I'm also in the market for a good 28.8 modem. If you have one that you'd
recommend (or not recommend), please send your suggestions!
I'll be happy to summarize my findings to the net or personally if anyone is
interested (drop me a line if you want a summary).
Thanks VERY much in advance,
Brendan McNichols
mcnichol@khan.syr.edu
mcnichol@mailbox.syr.edu
bmcnichols@questra.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Message-ID: <eldD55F02.1uM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com> <3jhpdp$bh1@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:04:50 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom4.netcom.com
Hanspeter Schaub (schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu) wrote:
: Mike Stepniczka (step@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: : Astraloids.app is now available on:
: : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: Cool game. Plug a set of head-phones into you're monitor and play it that
: way. The stereo sound makes quite a difference.
is it FAT?
if no, Black or White?
--
-->ericd<---------------------------------------------------------------------
eld@netcom.com <---> ambient, 3-D, unix, denver, interface, gravity
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jhepp@usa.net (jeff hepp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: I can't be Consoled!
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 20:57:38
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Message-ID: <jhepp.2.0014F68F@usa.net>
Summary: Console won't come up! Help
Recently installed a Sun 1.3 Seagate external drive, formatted to 1024 blocks,
as the new boot device. Last night (I leave the machine on, it wakes me up)
the system no longer recognized the drive and I overslept. Anyway, I tried to
examine the Console to determine any panics or errors and it won't
materialize. Tried alot of newbie things (I'm a flutist, damnit!) and finally
out of frustration reinstalled the OS. Still can't get the Console to show up.
Any suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. BTW the internal 200
meg hard disk (formatted to 512 blocks) has been dedicated to "swapdisk."
TIA, Jeff Hepp, NeXTHEPP
jhepp@usa.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: watsen@netcom.com (Kent Watsen)
Subject: What is fastest bps on '040 slab serial port?
Message-ID: <watsenD56r6H.G8E@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 18:25:29 GMT
Sender: watsen@netcom15.netcom.com
Hello,
I was wondering what the fastest setting I can use for
reliable transmission through the RS-432 serial ports
on my turbo slab? I once read that 38.4K bps was ok,
but with the advent of 28.8K baud modems, I would like
to set it to someting higher...hopefully 115K bps!
Anybody?
Kent Watsen
watsen@netcom.com
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Do I want a sound card?
Date: 8 Mar 1995 14:02:27 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <3jkddj$tks@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Hi,
I'm in the process of buying my NEXTSTEP/Intel system (100 MHz Pentium! :) and
the final item in the configuration is whether I NEEEED a sound card. My
primary applications will be Mathematica and FrameMaker. I also have a fantasy
of writing some code for data analysis for which playing data might be
interesting.
Opinions regarding the utility of a sound card for a techno-geek kinda guy
would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: problem at login after boot - NS can't find Workspace settings
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 08 Mar 1995 07:28:15 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MJANTTI.95Mar8092815@medusa.abo.fi>
I added a SCSI disk to my NeXTstation running 3.2, to which I moved
all user directories. Now, when I login after bootup, the Workspace
gives me the root's last workspace. However, if I log out and log in
again, I get my own Workspace. It seems that NS can't find my settings
on the first login. Has someone else been experiencing this problem?
Is there a simple remedy?
--
Markus Jantti | Department of Economics
mjantti@aton.abo.fi | Abo Akademi University
| FIN 20500 Turku, Finland
358-21-2511 127 (Home) 358-21-654 161 (Office)
358-21-654 497 (Fax)
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 12:12:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3jmrb1$lmo@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308143535.49109A@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
John Dawson <jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com> writes
> Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User? I.e., if I am willing to shell
> out the $200 to upgrade my Intel 3.2 User/Developer system to 3.3 User
> (but remain at 3.2 Developer), do I lose the ability to develop things
> on that machine?
>
> --
> jdawson@tkg.com (John Dawson)
It works perfectly. So does 3.3 Dev :-)
- Stan
--
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
| Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | |
| SU Computer Science | When you find yourself |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 HEXO | in a hole, stop digging |
| stanj@cs.stanford.edu NeXTmail / MIME | |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: John Dawson <jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
Subject: Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User?
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308143535.49109A@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:48:16 GMT
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: IBM Austin
Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User? I.e., if I am willing to shell
out the $200 to upgrade my Intel 3.2 User/Developer system to 3.3 User
(but remain at 3.2 Developer), do I lose the ability to develop things
on that machine?
--
jdawson@tkg.com (John Dawson)
From: alexk@infmuc (Alexander Koerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to tri-boot with OS/2, DOS and NextStep.
Date: 8 Mar 1995 07:26:22 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc. Menlo Park, CA 94025
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jjm6u$c5b@news.informix.com>
References: <3je8cq$jnm@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3je8cq$jnm@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel
Dakri) writes:
> In article <3jdehe$h3u@pub.kau2.kodak.com> cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
> writes:
> > The NS boot loader allows NS, Dos, and up to four other partitions by
> > number. It's not as pretty, but can't you boot OS/2 as one of the
> > numbered partitions?
> > --
> Yes, you can boot any of those numbered partitions to get into OS/2 or
whatever
> you have. That's what I did at first.
>
> But if you really like the OS/2 boot manager, then you can remove the NS boot
> manager entirely and then set the OS/2 boot manager as the active partition.
> This is what I'm doing right now, and I don't have to see the NS boot manager
> anymore.
Hi there,
I would recommend to get the summer/fall 1994 issue of NEXTSTEP In Focus
(ask NeXT for a copy).
That issue has one detailed chapter about setting up a PC to run multiple
OS. In one of their examples they describe how to setup a system to run
NEXTSTEP, DOS/Windows, OS/2 and Linux on one machine... :-)
Greetings from Munich,
Alexander
--
Alexander Koerner @ Informix Germany
Oskar-Messter-Str. 25, 85737 Ismaning
Tel.: +49 89 960 980 Fax: +49 89 960 98 500
Email: alexk@informix.com (NeXTmail accepted!)
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (gary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: VirtSpace: where is Pinnacle Inc?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 9 Mar 1995 01:07:15 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3jlkc3$4m3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu> <D53s5G.2q7@nyro.com>
Since I love VirtSpace so much, I'll add my $.02
I couldn't live without it... The program is so awesome...
If you don't have it, you are really missing out.
It's the most useful app I own...
Gary
-and no, I am not affiliated with the company, just a satisfied user.
Ian H. Stewart (ian@nyro.com) wrote:
: VirtSpace is available from:
: NYRO Technix, Inc.
: 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341
: San Francisco CA 94127
: 415 664-1170 voice
: 415 664-5530 fax
: NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm),
: Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm),
: On-Vacation(tm), ReadReceiptPlus(tm) and
: other NEXTSTEP software.
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
From: powell@tropic (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Remember that Freezing HP715? SUMMARY
Date: 10 Mar 1995 16:07:51 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3jptgn$99o@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <3jpn2q$2lsf@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
We have used 3rd party ram from Dataram
(609) 799-0071 for our two HP 712-60's
16 mb simms cost $620. back in October.
They seem to be working ok.
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@take3.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: MailSendDemo doesn't work in Mail 3.3
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:51:37 GMT
Organization: Traverse Communication Company
Sender: Wesley C. Smith <wes@take3.com>
Message-ID: <950308105137.2470AAABF.wes@sherlock.take3.com>
References: <1995Mar7.170059.9471@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>However, I just noticed that this no longer works with Mail 3.3. Does
>anyone how to work around this?
Yes, you could switch to using Eloquent instead of Mail.app. ;-) Eloquent
supports the MailSendDemo API.
Wesley C. Smith
wes@take3.com NeXT, MIME, ASCII, SUN, Microsoft
Take 3 (616) 228-6556 phone
P.O. Box 40 (616) 929-3336 fax
Cedar, MI 49621-0040
From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!! NeXTstation won't boot-up
Date: 10 Mar 1995 22:47:33 GMT
Organization: Me! Organised?
Message-ID: <3jqku5$a0b@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
References: <D58J9B.3wv@festival.ed.ac.uk>
In article <D58J9B.3wv@festival.ed.ac.uk>,
R Borland <lss3002@festival.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>My NeXTstation (a black slab 'turboColour') crashed recently.
>Now, when I try to start it up, the message "Testing system..."
>is displayed followed by the message "Loading from network".
>
[munch]
>
>I got hold of a cd with the 3.0 version of the nextstep software on
>it and borrowed a cd-drive, thinking that I might be able to boot-up
>from the cd but had no luck.
>
>Can somebody please help?
>
>--
>Richard Borland.
>Napier University.
>lss3002@festival.ed.ac.uk
>
The NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration manual describes the procedure
for booting from a device other than sd0a(internal hard disk). You may have
to re-install the system from scratch, which you can do from the CD-ROM, also
described there. It is not a difficult procedure, but I hope you have backups
of your important stuff.
david
--------
--
David R. Hill, CS Dept., U. Calgary | Imagination is more
Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315| important than knowledge.
hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778| (Albert Einstein)
NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: reverbel@dumbo.cgs.fr (Michel Reverbel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing to a UNIX printer
Date: 8 Mar 1995 18:05:22 +0100
Organization: ITMI - Aptor
Message-ID: <3jko4i$r5c@dumbo.cgs.fr>
References: <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net>
To: rohit@wolfe.net (Rohit Fedane)
In article <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net>, rohit@wolfe.net (Rohit Fedane) writes:
|>
|> Does anyone know how to print from a Mac to a Next or UNIX
|> printer ? I am not very familiar with Macs so tell me any
|> everything that there is to know on the subject.
|>
|> Thanks a million!
|>
|> PS. Let me know if there any FAQs on the subject and where I can
|> get them.
|>
|> Rohit Fedane
|> rohit@wolfe.net
|>
One solution is to use an appletalk server on the Unix system.
you need :
- an ethernet card + MacTCP on the mac
- an ethernet access to the Unix host
The appletalk server can be : Columbia AppleTalk Package (CAP), available
free on different ftp servers on the net.
I use it to print and also to mount Unix directories on my Mac.
Here is part of the FAQ of this soft :
> What is CAP ?
The Columbia AppleTalk Package (CAP) implements the AppleTalk protocol
stack on a variety of UNIX machines. The main applications provide an
AppleShare 2.0 compatible server (aufs), a LaserWriter Spooler (lwsrv)
and a program to print to LaserWriters (papif). The latter can be used
to talk to EtherTalk LaserWriters, LocalTalk LaserWriters used on Dayna
EtherPrint cards or on a LocalTalk/EtherTalk gateway. There are also a
number of contributed packages bundled with CAP (see cap60/contrib).
> What machines will CAP run on ?
The CAP Configure script has specific support for the following
Operating Systems:
sunos - SUN SunOS
ultrixnn - DEC Ultrix 1.2, 2.0, 4.N
irix - Silicon Graphics IRIS/IRIX
aix - IBM AIX System V
hpux - HP HP-UX 8.0
uts - Amdahl UTS
aux - Apple A/UX 2.0
encore - Encore MultiMax BSD
pyr - Pyramid (BSD Universe)
next - NeXT/MACH
dynix - Sequent Balance
newsos - Sony NEWS
bsd - BSD 4.2, 4.3
> Where can I get CAP ?
CAP can be obtained by anonymous FTP from
rutgers.EDU src/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*}
munnari.OZ.AU mac/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
gatekeeper.DEC.COM pub/net/appletalk/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
ftp.kuis.kyoto-u.AC.JP net/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*.Z}
src.doc.ic.AC.UK mac/multigate/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sb6fcb@sb601 (Francois Bourgeois)
Subject: Re: Talus device drivers (or other 3rd party drivers)
Message-ID: <D57urI.EwJ@rivm.nl>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@rivm.nl
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
References: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308145032.49109C-100000@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:40:29 GMT
John Dawson (jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com) wrote:
: Where can I find information on the price and availability of Talus and
: other third-party device drivers for NEXTSTEP?
: I'm primarily interested in these kinds of drivers, but information
: about any available drivers would be appreciated:
: PCI video drivers
: PCI SCSI adapters (prefer wide, fast, SCSI-2)
: PCI or ISA sound drivers
: --
: jdawson@tkg.com (John Dawson)
Contact info@talus.com
A couple of days ago I asked them about the availability of
PCI ATI Mach32 drivers and about drivers for NCR SCSI.
They told me that they have drivers for NEXTSTEP 3.2 but that
they will _not_ be updated for NEXTSTEP 3.3
So beware !
--
Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15, Risk Assessment | e-mail: sb6fcb@rivm.nl
Division, National Institute of Public Health |
and Environmental Protection , P.O.Box 1, | voice: +31 30 742962
3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands | fax: +31 30 291492
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.maketplace
Subject: BenaTong still alive?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 15:51:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <3jpsi7$fr5@network.ucsd.edu>
I've been trying to get in touch with BenaTong for over a week now. My
e-mail bounced and I can only get an answering machine (Chuck Bennet's
office) when I call them. Nobody ever returned my calls. What's the deal
here?
Thanks,
jk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: NetHack.NI.b.tar.gz at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Message-ID: <edewD53KDE.7Cv@netcom.com>
Keywords: Hack, NetHack, games
Sender: edew@netcom3.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:05:37 GMT
Hello,
I am trying to download NetHack via ftp from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, but
the size of the file is about 1MB. So (I believe) because the ftp is from
Germany to US (Silicon Valley area), I'm getting about 2 KB/s download rate,
which means it takes about 8 minutes to download (to my netcom account).
Now, the funny thing is that my modem hangs after about 8 minutes of inactivity.
(My modem is a ZyXel U-1496E). So, I would like to know one of two things:
1) Can someone tell me how I can set the modem to not hang after any period
of inactive time?
or
2) Can someone download NetHack.NI.b.tar.gz for me and email it to me?
or (ok, three things...)
3) Can someone tell me a more local place for me to pick up NetHack? I cna't
find it in cs.orst.edu or at sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
I would prefer an answer to 1) since it would clear up a lot of other hassles
for me, but responses for 2) and 3) are helpful, too.
Thanks in advance
EDEW
(edew@netcom.com, No NeXTMail, sorry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jdawson@austin.ibm.com (John Dawson)
Subject: Re: Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User? (summary)
Summary: Yes, 3.2 Developer works with 3.3 User
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <D58t1K.1JBy@austin.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 21:00:56 GMT
References: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308143535.49109A@kernel.austin.ibm.com> <3jmrb1$lmo@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: The Kernel Group, Inc.
Keywords: nextstep 3.2 user developer
John Dawson <jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com> asked:
>> Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User? I.e., if I am willing to shell
>> out the $200 to upgrade my Intel 3.2 User/Developer system to 3.3 User
>> (but remain at 3.2 Developer), do I lose the ability to develop things
>> on that machine?
In article <3jmrb1$lmo@nntp.Stanford.EDU> stanj@cs.stanford.edu writes:
>It works perfectly. So does 3.3 Dev :-)
Thanks for the replies, everybody. At this point I've also heard from
about 15 people (including several NeXT employees) via email, who all
agree that it works fine.
I am posting this info since I also got several requests to forward the
answer when I got one. There are probably a lot of lurkers who wanted
to get a definitive answer.
...jkd
--
jdawson@tkg.com (John Dawson)
--
..jkd
From: kbradley@130.35.1.6 (Kirk Bradley - Mainframe and Integration Technologies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Mar 1995 00:52:41 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA
Message-ID: <3jqs8p$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado>
I tried that and disabled the proxy for news as well. What's
the URL format to get news (I thought it was news:xxx)
GH Chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote:
: Richard,
: OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
: What you'll have to do is:
: dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
: Hussain
: ___ __________________________________________________________
: /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
: \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
: NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis
: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
: On 18 Feb 1995 richard@runner.uucp wrote:
: > How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
: > to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
: > for usenet news?
: >
: > --
: > Richard
: > richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
: > (ok to send NeXT Mail)
: >
: >
--
Kirk Bradley
Oracle Corporation
Mainframe and Integration Technologies Group
From: wishitso@olympus.net (Cindy E. Souders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NextStep
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 14:22:47 UNDEFINED
Organization: Internet for the Olympic Peninsula
Message-ID: <wishitso.4.000CAAB8@olympus.net>
I read in a magazine that NextStep is the best operating system out there.
I'm interested in programming, games and such. What are the advantages of
NextStep and how can I get it?
Any suggestions are appreciated
Please respond to wishitso@olympus.net
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CM fonts
Date: 9 Mar 1995 18:20:29 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jngtd$tjm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Recently I posted requesting info on Computer Modern fonts. I managed
to download the Postscript CM font family from a CTAN archive. Further, I
successfully installed them in my ~/Library/Fonts directory. Its now
possbile to pull them up and use them inside of OpenWrite. However, as
you experienced font people probably realize, I still have a problem.
It appears that the CM fonts do not have a space character (" ").
I looked at the fonts and successfully managed to remap charater 32 to a
different character, but no available characters seems to make a good
space.
Does anybody know a mechanism to remap <space> and <return/nl> to
appropriate representations? If you have the CM font family with the
appropriate maps, I would appreciate a copy.
Thanks,
- Steve
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=================================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu |
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 |
From: sysop@kitana.org (JL Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does 3.2 Developer work with 3.3 User?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 16:07:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199503102047.MAA18423@kitana.org>
It works fine here running NSi User 3.3 with NS 3.2 Dev.
--
sysop@kitana.org
From: mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Engineering Drawing Apps -- any suggestions ?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 22:04:40 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Hello.
I am looking for a program that can do Engineering Drawings.
Looking at back-issues of NeXTWORLD, I saw an advertisement
(from Dec. '93) for a CAD program called ACADEMY. Has anyone
used it? Any comments? Are there any other programs that you
can recommend? BTW, this is for black hardware.
Thanks in advance.
Milind
mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus device drivers (or other 3rd party drivers)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 11 Mar 1995 08:35:19 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jrnc7$n4f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <Pine.A32.3.90.950308145032.49109C-100000@kernel.austin.ibm.com>
John Dawson (jdawson@kernel.austin.ibm.com) wrote:
> Where can I find information on the price and availability of Talus and
Well, you could contact Steve Sarich III at steve@talus.com.
> PCI video drivers
Talus has a driver for the ATI on board chip for Dell computers.
> PCI SCSI adapters (prefer wide, fast, SCSI-2)
The NCR 810 chip is supported by REC (Russian Electronic Company)
Internet: serge@osd.glas.apc.org
PCI or ISA sound drivers
NeXT supports also a few SCSI adapters, video cards and sound boards.
Have a look at http://WWW.NeXT.COM/NeXTanswers
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Documentation Coordinator/Leader
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fonts broken after reboot
Date: 9 Mar 95 21:09:19 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mp.794783359@maud>
Hi folks,
I have a problem:
After a reboot I have some wrong fonts on the screen. Especially Ohlf 10pt has a funny spacing and letters from another font.
This usually takes one or two weeks, then the problem is solved automaticly. I have no idea...
... sounds like a wrong cache,
... tried buildafmdir without success
any idea ??? (NeXTstation, mono, NS3.1)
thanks in advance
Martin (M.Pruefer@tu-bs.de)
--
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Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | Fax: +49 531 / 391-5696
Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG |
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Mar 1995 14:44:38 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar11144438@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
I'd like to use Glimpse to do all my indexing and move away from DL as
my query Engine.
Ideally it would be nice if you could simply tell DL to use a
different indexing engine but I don't think that's possible and in any
case I'd rather use the delicious new OmniWeb as my interface with
GlimpseHTTP
Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
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From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 11 Mar 1995 18:11:38 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Considering the multiple NEXTSTEP job postings to c.s.n.misc, c.s.n.announce,
and c.s.n.marketplace, I feel as if we should set up a c.s.n.jobs newsgroup
to allow organizations to post NEXTSTEP job openings and to allow individuals
to post solicitations for employment.
Should we do it?
Eric
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 11 Mar 1995 09:02:08 -0500
Organization: In your dreams...
Message-ID: <jreisszngrxx7ntocl@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-reply-to: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU's message of 11 Mar 1995 18:11:38 GMT
In article <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
>Considering the multiple NEXTSTEP job postings to c.s.n.misc, c.s.n.announce,
>and c.s.n.marketplace, I feel as if we should set up a c.s.n.jobs newsgroup
>to allow organizations to post NEXTSTEP job openings and to allow individuals
>to post solicitations for employment.
You've got my vote. I like reading c.s.n.announce for info on new
software and products, and really don't care about the job listings.
I'm sure there are probably others in the same boat, and still others
in the opposite situation. I think the extra newsgroup would be
great!
Other opinions?
Joe
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| NeXTMail OK! | Roads? Where we're going, we don't need... roads! |
| ________ | |
| | |__) | ======================================================== |
| (_|OE| \EISS | - Dr. Emmett Brown, "Back to the Future" |
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Omniweb problems with CERN
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Mar 1995 19:27:18 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar11192718@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
CC: omniweb@lighthouse.com, wmperry@spry.com
I have a SPARC running as proxy..
When I tried to connect to http://steffi/wwwlib/ with Emacs-W3 by Will
Perry from my NeXT to port 80 on the SPARC
everything works fine..
Accepted.... new socket 4
StandAlone.. Doing fork()
Child....... I'm alive
HTHandle.... fork() succeeded
Gc.......... disabled altogether
No timeout.. not doing select()
Daemon...... accepting connection...
Linger...... no longer set by default
TCP......... Peer name is `audrey'
Reading..... socket 4 from host 192.42.72.2
From........ robert@audrey
Encoding.... x-uuencode (q=1.00)
Encoding.... x-hqx (q=1.00)
Encoding.... x-zip (q=1.00)
Encoding.... x-compress (q=1.00)
Language.... */* (q=1.00)
User-Agent.. Emacs-W3/2.1.80 URL/1.178
HTSimplify.. `/wwwlib/' into
............ `/wwwlib/'
Pass........ rule matched "/wwwlib/" -> "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/"
Passing..... "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/"
Welcome..... "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html"
Content-Length 5682
Last-Modified Monday, 13-Feb-95 21:32:39 GMT
Searching... for suffix 1: ".html"
AuthCheck... Translated path: "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html" (method: GET)
AccessOk.... No protect rule nor ACL
AA.......... check returned 200
Translated.. "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html"
SysInfo..... nobody means user (nobody:*:65534:65534:...)
SysInfo..... nogroup means group (nogroup:*:65534:...)
Doing... setgid(65534) and setuid(65534)
HTHandle.... method GET
Content-Length 5682
Last-Modified Monday, 13-Feb-95 21:32:39 GMT
FindAnchor.. 87d78 with hash 99 and address `/wwwlib/' created
HTAccess.... Loading document /wwwlib/
LoadFile.... Looking for `/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html'
Local filename is "/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html"
Searching... for suffix 1: ".html"
HTLoadFile.. Accessing local file system.
HTLoadFile.. Opened `/usr/local/lib/www/wwwlib/index.html' on local file system
File mode is 0100644, uid=21, gid=0. My uid=65534, 1 groups ( 0)
File is not editable.
StreamStack. Constructing stream stack for text/html to www/present
Ok.......... Content-type text/html
HTTP header. length: 204 bytes
............ Headers for the client
HTTP/1.0 200 Document follows
MIME-Version: 1.0
Server: CERN/3.0
Date: Saturday, 11-Mar-95 19:25:08 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 5682
Last-Modified: Monday, 13-Feb-95 21:32:39 GMT
............ End of headers
Already..... known content-length: 5682
HTAccess.... `/wwwlib/' has been accessed.
Socket...... 4 disconnected by peer
Child....... exiting with status 0
Parent...... child pid 12305 has finished
Gc.......... disabled altogether
No timeout.. not doing select()
Daemon...... accepting connection...
however, when I use OmniWeb configured to talk to a proxy I get.
Socket...... 4 disconnected by peer
Child....... exiting with status 0
Parent...... child pid 12299 has finished
Gc.......... disabled altogether
No timeout.. not doing select()
Daemon...... accepting connection...
Accepted.... new socket 4
StandAlone.. Doing fork()
HTHandle.... fork() succeeded
Gc.......... disabled altogether
No timeout.. not doing select()
Daemon...... accepting connection...
Child....... I'm alive
Linger...... no longer set by default
TCP......... Peer name is `audrey'
Reading..... socket 4 from host 192.42.72.2
User-Agent.. OmniWeb/1.0-PR2 libwww/2.16pre2
HTSimplify.. `wwwlib/' into
............ `wwwlib/'
DefaultFail. Failing "wwwlib/" by default
Explanation. no Pass rule
AA.......... check returned 403
Translated.. "-null-"
Returning... ERROR 403:
** Forbidden - by rule
ERROR....... [11/Mar/1995:19:21:36 +0000] wwwlib/
HTTP header. length: 159 bytes
............ Headers for the client
HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden - by rule
MIME-Version: 1.0
Server: CERN/3.0
Date: Saturday, 11-Mar-95 19:21:36 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 193
I suspect something is a miss with the configuration
robert:/Users/robert>dread -o OmniWeb 19:20
OmniWeb AnchorColor "0.200003 0 0.466659"
OmniWeb AnchorGray 0
OmniWeb AssumeISO8859-1 YES
OmniWeb AutoFetchInlineImages NO
OmniWeb BackgroundGray 1
OmniWeb BookmarkPageNumber 1
OmniWeb CachedLinkGray 0.333338
OmniWeb FormBackgroundColor "1 1 1"
OmniWeb FormBackgroundGray 1
OmniWeb HighlightedAnchorColor "0.099994 0.599994 0.119999"
OmniWeb HighlightedAnchorGray 0.666662
OmniWeb HomePage OmniWeb:/Start.html
OmniWeb IncrementalDisplay YES
OmniWeb LinkColor "0 0.200003 0.466659"
OmniWeb LinkGray 0.333338
OmniWeb NXColorPanelMode 5
OmniWeb NXColorPickerSlidersDefaults 3
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame Bookmarks" "5 68 279 765 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame BubbleHistoryFrame" "270 540 300 200 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame PromptPanel" "150 271 338 158 "
OmniWeb SaveOpenedFiles NO
OmniWeb ScratchDirectory /tmp/OmniWeb
OmniWeb ShowHistoryBrowser YES
OmniWeb ShowLinearHistoryBrowser NO
OmniWeb ShowLinkButtons NO
OmniWeb ShowPersonalBookmarks YES
OmniWeb StartingPages "OmniWeb:Start.html file:/Users/robert/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html"
OmniWeb autoFetchInlineImages NO
OmniWeb http_proxy http://steffi/
OmniWeb startingPages "OmniWeb:Start.html file:/Users/robert/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html"
OmniWeb BackgroundColor "1 1 1 -1"
OmniWeb BookmarkPage file:~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html
OmniWeb BrowseOnlyFollowedLinks NO
OmniWeb CachedLinkColor "0 0.266655 0.066652"
OmniWeb ConvertAssumingISO8859-1 YES
OmniWeb DownloadDirectory /tmp
OmniWeb NXColorPickerListDefaults 1NeXT
OmniWeb NXSwatchSize 22.000000
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame HistoryBrowser" "20 67 300 200 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame NXColorPanel" "270 94 196 298 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame OWController" "423 -41 514 834 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame OmniWeb" "277 -2 774 835 "
OmniWeb "NXWindow Frame WebBrowser" "281 -13 717 834 "
OmniWeb NewsHost steffi
OmniWeb OpenCreatesNewWindow YES
OmniWeb PlaySoundsDuringDownload NO
OmniWeb RunSavePanelOnDownload NO
OmniWeb ShowBubbleHistoryBrowser YES
OmniWeb ShowHierarchyBrowser NO
OmniWeb SplitViewLayout 0.623899
OmniWeb StartingPageNumber 0
OmniWeb UnderlineAnchors YES
OmniWeb bookmarkPageNumber 1
OmniWeb ftp_proxy http://steffi/
OmniWeb news_proxy http://steffi/
OmniWeb playSoundsDuringDownload NO
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing to a UNIX printer
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:35:17 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1103951735170001@slip-13-15.ots.utexas.edu>
References: <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net> <3jkkcc$onh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <3jkkcc$onh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, opus@athena.mit.edu
(David C. Jedlinsky) wrote:
>In article <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net> rohit@wolfe.net (Rohit Fedane) writes:
>>Does anyone know how to print from a Mac to a Next or UNIX
>>printer ? I am not very familiar with Macs so tell me any
>>everything that there is to know on the subject.
>
>Check out InterPrint by InterCon Systems - they have a demo on
>ftp.intercon.com. I just got the demo for my Mac, and it works as
>advertised to my NeXT.
>
My experience with InterPrint was very negative. I had a host of troubles
installing it (One example of the -- totally undocumented -- pitfalls of
the installation process: don't even TRY to install it if you have the LW8
drivers installed. Drag them out of you system folder first, intall
InterPrint, and then reinstall them. ), and
in the end, never found it particularly useful. I could NEVER get it to
print if the document contained fonts which were not resident in the
printer (Times, Helvetica, . . .). InterCon's Tech Support, though very
sympathetic, were never able to figure out what was wrong, though they
assured me InterPrint was SUPPOSED to be able to use downloaded fonts
(though VERY slowly).
In the end, I pretty much gave up on the product.
Jacques Distler
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can't su to root--help
Date: 10 Mar 1995 22:29:47 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jqjsr$22g@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3jnv8p$ne5@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3jnv8p$ne5@mark.ucdavis.edu> pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat
Martin) writes:
}~ I can't su to root even though the my home directory is in the same
}~ group--when I type su, I get an immediate response of "you do not have
}~ permission to su to root" Nothing is mentioned about the password.
}~ thanks for any help
}~ pc
You're not in group wheel.
Bruce
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Remember that Freezing HP715? SUMMARY
Date: 10 Mar 1995 14:18:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3jpn2q$2lsf@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: memory hppa
i posted (a few times) since DECEMBER about a 715 that hung
when booted in NeXTSTEP within 30min of boot. been fighting
this for 3+mos.
well, seems problem has been SOLVED. and i guess i have another
question for those of you w/ HP's booting NS.
after many things tried, including CPU/motherboard replacements,
we found that our 3rd party memory (KINGSTON KTH-715/32 and
KINGSTON KTH-715/16) was the culprit. we took all memory but
the hp factory 32mb out. and the machine's been up for, oh
let's see... 20 hours now. gosh.
Q. what 3rd party memory are you using? part nos? or did i just
get unlucky w/ 2 batches of bad memory?
TIME FOR THE BEER!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CD-ROM of the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-archive peanuts
Date: 12 Mar 1995 04:31:42 +0100
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
Message-ID: <3jtpv6$14l@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Hi all!
We are going to publish our NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-archive peanuts
(ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next) on two
compact discs. If you have any applications which are newer than the
one on the archive, don't hesitate to load them up (deadline is March,
17th).
Vendors of commercial applications (demo versions of third party
products) should get in contact with:
"Peanuts Archiv Disk"
pad@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Regards
cb
PS: We will announce the CD-ROM as soon as it is available!
--
[ Christian Baur,Muenchen-Germany | Life Is HARD ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de(NeXTmail) | and Then You DIE ]
From: ibhan@fas.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can I use a serial printer?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:15:51 -0500
Organization: Harvard University
Message-ID: <ibhan-1203950215510001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu>
Is it possible to use a serial printer with NeXTSTEP?
--
Ishir Bhan
ibhan@fas.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.org/ibhan/
------
"There's always a party on the Net"
From: ibhan@fas.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:17:40 -0500
Organization: Harvard University
Message-ID: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu>
Where can I get the academic version of NeXTSTEP? Does it come with both
user and developer 3.3?
--
Ishir Bhan
ibhan@fas.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.org/ibhan/
------
"There's always a party on the Net"
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can't su to root--help
Date: 9 Mar 1995 22:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3jnv8p$ne5@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I can't su to root even though the my home directory is in the same
group--when I type su, I get an immediate response of "you do not have
permission to su to root" Nothing is mentioned about the password.
thanks for any help
pc
From: dragon@dragon.dorm9.nctu.edu.tw (Sheu Wuu_Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How can I ftp a directory or a app
Date: 12 Mar 1995 07:23:15 GMT
Organization: String to put in the Organization Header
Message-ID: <3ju7h3$jsu@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Can anyone tell me how can I get a directory and all its subdirectory
and file.
if possible , tell me what software, and How can I get it.
thanks a lot.
From: dragon@dragon.dorm9.nctu.edu.tw (Sheu Wuu_Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How can I get mail?
Date: 12 Mar 1995 07:26:32 GMT
Organization: String to put in the Organization Header
Message-ID: <3ju7n8$jsu@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Recentily, I set up my next.
but I can't send mail ( although I can get mail )
I think the problem is that I have not set mailhost.
where can I set it, what file ? or how ? thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Message-ID: <D5C5IC.MpA@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <jreisszngrxx7ntocl@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:22:59 GMT
Joe Reiss (jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: You've got my vote. I like reading c.s.n.announce for info on new
: software and products, and really don't care about the job listings.
: I'm sure there are probably others in the same boat, and still others
: in the opposite situation. I think the extra newsgroup would be
: great!
Ditto the above reasons from me. Software products and job
opportunities are unrelated subjects. The day has yet to arrive when
I am interested in reading both.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lss3002@festival.ed.ac.uk (R Borland)
Subject: HELP!! NeXTstation won't boot-up
Message-ID: <D58J9B.3wv@festival.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Edinburgh University
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 17:29:31 GMT
My NeXTstation (a black slab 'turboColour') crashed recently.
Now, when I try to start it up, the message "Testing system..."
is displayed followed by the message "Loading from network".
However the machine is not connected to a network!
Between the two messages, I can hear the hard drive being activated
followed by the floppy, suggesting (I thought) that the system
software on the hard drive was corrupted during the crash and is no
longer accessible.
I got hold of a cd with the 3.0 version of the nextstep software on
it and borrowed a cd-drive, thinking that I might be able to boot-up
from the cd but had no luck.
Can somebody please help?
--
Richard Borland.
Napier University.
lss3002@festival.ed.ac.uk
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Next Inc. Phone/E-mail info Requested
Date: 12 Mar 1995 23:32:12 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3k009s$eok@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <D52tv4.Fvu@pica.army.mil>
In article <D52tv4.Fvu@pica.army.mil> mckameym@csl-emh1.army.mil (Mark D.
McKamey) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Can someone please let me know the Next Inc. Sales phone number or
e-mail
> address. Thank you,
>
> Mark D. McKamey
> mckameym@csl-emh1.army.mil
Try
To:NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM
Subject: help ascii
you will then get all the info you want
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dekorte@marble.com (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: Combining Poscript pages
Message-ID: <D5Bzo9.u2@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <3je91j$84o@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 14:16:57 GMT
(Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
> I'm wondering how to combine separate pages in PostScript and
> make them into one big mutli-page Postscript file ?
I believe Tailor.app can do this.
--
Steve Dekorte
dekorte@marble.com (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu (Yung-Chang Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Partitions & boot managers suggestion??
Date: 13 Mar 1995 09:01:14 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Message-ID: <3k11kq$k3m@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Hi,
I have a SCSI 1GB HDD and a 540MB IDE HDD, and I would like to install NS, Linux slackware, OS/2, and
DOS/WINS. Can anyone give suggestion about how to partition and what is best boot manager among
NS, OS/2 boot manager, Linux LILO? What in my mind is the whole IDE for NS, and partition the 1 GB
HDD for the others and use NS as boot manager. I used LILO as boot manager for Linux and DOS before and
I am happy with that. I am worried about the boot section overwrite problem. What is the proper way to
do partition and to install those systems? Many thanks!
Yung
BTW, my hardware configuration is
Pentium-75
Adaptec 2940(PCI)
Diamond stealth 64(PCI)
32 mb MM
3501 Toshiba CDROM
--
======================================
~ Yung-chang Chen (608)251-5826
c-OO yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu
- =====================
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 13 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3k0kcs$fus@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: basilb@interconnect.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT portables
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 02:17:31 PDT
Organization: Interconnect Australia
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.3790.795090604.basilb@basilb.syd.interconnect.com.au.syd.interconnect.com.au>
References: <3jif5v$gb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I have had NS 3.2 and 3.3 running on a NEC Versa E/75 since October '94 as part
of a demonstration system (Versa as a NeXTSTEP user workstation + Tadpole as an
application server) for an app we developed. At the time it was the best choice
but I had to (and still have to) put up with a monochrome 640x480 display.
This is fine for the demos, but when trying to use the system I am constantly
faced with the occasinal window that is far larger than the screen!
Unfortunately, windows are relocated by dragging the window name bar and the
cursor won't move off-screen and any buttons/fields out of view are
inaccessible.
Two months ago I had the old demo system replaced by two Sun Voyager GX's (one
running NS 3.2 pre-1, the other Solaris 2.x). Although NS is only beta and has
some known issues and the Voyager are definitely hamstrung by the small
on-board HDD (304MB), there is definitely NO CONTEST.
From: Matthew Kreger <Matthew_Kreger@mcimail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Netware printers and graphics viewer
Date: 13 Mar 1995 22:05:02 GMT
Organization: MCI Communications
Message-ID: <3k2fie$8c2@hermes.dna.mci.com>
I'm having two problems:
1 - I installed Netware printers using the Netware app, but when
I go to print from an application, it says I have no printer
installed. Also, when I log out and back on, the printers
don't show up in the Netware manager.
2 - No inline images in OmniWeb or SpiderWoman. What should I
get? Any freeware? What do I have to do to configure them?
Thanks for any help.
Matthew Kreger
matthew_kreger@mcimail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: NeXTSTEP on a Gateway/2000 486DX2
Message-ID: <cjonesD5Ez74.JGH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 04:59:27 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom16.netcom.com
I have a Gateway/2000 486DX2, Adaptec 1542B, Segate 500MB SCSI,
Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM.
I had NeXTSTEP 3.1 running, along with DOS.
I then added a Maxtor 540MB IDE drive and upgraded by BIOS.
Now I cannot load NeXTSTEP 3.1, 3.2, or 3.3
It says it cannot find my CD-ROM.
From DOS it is listed w/Segate as SCSI 0 and Toshiba SCSI 2.
These are the recommendations/requirements given in the NeXT
Install guide for 3.2.
This must be a configuration problem of some kind; can anyone
help me track it down?
I can be reached via email at: cjones@netcom.com
thanks for any help!
carl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney)
Subject: Southern CA
Message-ID: <rfenney-130395212548@rfenney.slip.netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: FenTek
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 05:22:19 GMT
Is there any NeXTSTEP sights in southern CA looking for consultants?
Robert
From: vamp@metaverse.com (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 13 Mar 1995 20:15:12 -0800
Organization: On Ramp, Inc.
Sender: vamp@best.com
Message-ID: <3k3591$5sl@shell1.best.com>
References: <ROBERT.95Mar11144438@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
--
Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@best.com
System Administrator / HTML Hack url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: NewsGrazer and gzip compression ?
Message-ID: <D5CKDt.DG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 21:44:17 GMT
Hi,
Right now, I'm using flat files with NewsGrazer and it works fine. So far,
I'm receiving all News with no compression at all. It works great, but as
I subscribed to more and more Newsgroups, it takes a long time to download
from my provider through a 14400bps line. I asked him about how to improve
the speed of the transmission and he told me he could gzip all the news if
only I could make sure that I'm able to receive and decompress them.
So here is my question : how do I tell NewsGrazer (or whoever) to
decompress the News with gzip ? What would be available for me to receive
all my news gziped and still being able to read them with NewsGrazer ?
Thanks to e-mail me all the answers, even the ones you find too simple.
Jacques Garbi
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: LaserWriter NT to NeXT cube
Date: 14 Mar 1995 16:14:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3k4fdd$10h0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: laserwriter printer
we've had a Personal LaserWriter NT on a mac for a few years.
last week i hooked it up to a cube on serial port A. i found
an old ppd file from the 3.0 release (we're running 3.2 now)
called Apple_LaserWriter_Personal_NT.ppd. i found that the
printer setting #6 worked for writing out a test page but nothing
else. could not find another setting that worked with this
ppd file.
i found that the file Apple_LaserWriter_Plus.ppd not only printed
the test page (w/ printer on setting #6) but also will print
general text files.
we still have major problems when printing most postscript and
all framemaker files, which we could print from the mac.
does anyone have a personal laserwriter nt hooked up to a slab or
cube? if so, what ppd and settings are you using?
thanks for any help!!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Communicae update?
Date: 14 Mar 95 03:46:25
Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SMITHW.95Mar14034625@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Is there an update of Communicae that runs on black 3.2? (Copy and paste
don't seem to work.)
-Bill
--
Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703
email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: roskos@paul.rutgers.edu (Ed Roskos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT mouseX, empty (not blank) screen
Date: 14 Mar 1995 12:01:19 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR
Message-ID: <3k4i4v$821@paul.rutgers.edu>
I was hoping someone else might have run into this problem and
knows of a work-around. I installed Mouse-X on a NeXT cube running
OS3.3, and observed the following when running with Xfe:
(1) The screen does show the X background, but no cursor and
no windows
(2) I *can* rlogin into the NeXT, set display :0.0, and then
run xclock and xterm without complaints from the NeXT.
I just also dont get any windows.
(3) I can escape back the the NeXT front end with Cmd-Cmd-*
and things work ok from there.
Anyone know what to try next?? Thanks.
--Ed Roskos
roskos@paul.rutgers.edu
From: roskos@paul.rutgers.edu (Ed Roskos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: gcc on NeXT cube w/o developer's kit
Date: 14 Mar 1995 12:02:34 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR
Message-ID: <3k4i7a$82m@paul.rutgers.edu>
Howdy all,
I was curious if anyone has managed to compile binutils and
gcc 2.6.3 for NeXT WITHOUT the NS development package. I am against
buying the gnu compiler for $750 just because it comes with a bunch of
other stuff (or buying a bunch of stuff just for the compiler, however
you wish to view it), and was dismayed to find NO header files for
compiler with the OS for my NeXT cube.
Has anyone managed to build a cross-compiler and ultimately
get the NeXT running with gcc and header files???
--Ed Roskos
roskos@paul.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503141955.AA06566@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 14:55:13 -0500
Subject: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
really simple: I need more tabs in an RTF document in Edit.app. How
do I add them?
is it just me or would it be nice if there were some NeXTStep help
for Edit.app?
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Missing Root Password
Date: 14 Mar 1995 21:22:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k51ev$1cr@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Hi I have a major problem, I forgot my root password in NeXTstep
Is there any way around to be able to change the password. My friend
suggest me to bring up the system in Single user mode, but I don't know
what to do next
Thanks for the help
Leon
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: *** AUDIO - NeXT, Intel, Sun, HP ***
Message-ID: <1995Mar14.181327.35644@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 14 Mar 95 18:13:27 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT mouseX, empty (not blank) screen
Date: 14 Mar 1995 18:17:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k4mjt$738@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <3k4i4v$821@paul.rutgers.edu>
In article <3k4i4v$821@paul.rutgers.edu> roskos@paul.rutgers.edu (Ed Roskos)
writes:
]
] I was hoping someone else might have run into this problem and
] knows of a work-around. I installed Mouse-X on a NeXT cube running
] OS3.3, and observed the following when running with Xfe:
]
] (1) The screen does show the X background, but no cursor and
] no windows
] (2) I *can* rlogin into the NeXT, set display :0.0, and then
] run xclock and xterm without complaints from the NeXT.
] I just also dont get any windows.
] (3) I can escape back the the NeXT front end with Cmd-Cmd-*
] and things work ok from there.
]
] Anyone know what to try next?? Thanks.
The xinit program (see man page) starts up a single xterm by default, if there
is no .xinitrc file in your home dir. If this file exists, you must be sure
that you have 1) at least one xterm command in it, and 2) that the *last*
command, and *only* the last command, in this file, is run in the foreground
(i.e., no "&" after it). All other commands that do not return immediately
*must* be put in the background. Here is a sample:
# .xinitrc for NeXT
#
# set backward compatibility
#
xset bc
# set font path
#
xset fp=
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
#
# start up the tvtwm window manager
#
tvtwm &
#
# This final command is run in the foreground, and when it
# exits (due to logging out of it), the X session will terminate
#
xterm -n console -T console -fn courier_B10 -ls -sb -geometry 80x8+5+5
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-Jye Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Save PostScript Code with Bitmaps?
Date: 15 Mar 1995 08:33:45 GMT
Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Message-ID: <3k68p9$t6j@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hello,
I want to save a file in bitmap PostScript,i.e. I don't need font in
PostScript Printer,how can I do? or is there any Application?
BTW,I choose print->save (Chosen Printer/Include Fonts) and i see the PS code
in ghostview,the messages are:
*****************
Error: /invalidfont in --show--
Operand stack:
-dicttype- show
Execution stack:
%interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
531/547 0/20 37/200
Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
*****************
and my font is NXMing,which is Chinese PostScript Font....What's the
problem?
Albert
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From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 09:44:36 +0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertzngnz8ypaeqt@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <ROBERT.95Mar11144438@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
<3k3591$5sl@shell1.best.com>
To: vamp@metaverse.com (VampLestat)
In-reply-to: vamp@metaverse.com's message of 13 Mar 1995 20:15:12 -0800
<vamp@metaverse.com> writes:
>>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
>ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
>--
>Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@best.com
>System Administrator / HTML Hack url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp
Does that support NeXT's rtf including rtfd?
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Combining Poscript pages
Message-ID: <3k1vdv$9gq@lace.Colorado.EDU>
From: claude@pressure2.Colorado.EDU (Claude Carlier)
Date: 13 Mar 1995 17:29:35 GMT
References: <D5Bzo9.u2@marble.com>
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
In article <D5Bzo9.u2@marble.com> dekorte@marble.com (Steve Dekorte)
writes:
> (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
>
> > I'm wondering how to combine separate pages in PostScript and
> > make them into one big mutli-page Postscript file ?
>
> I believe Tailor.app can do this.
If you don't need to modify the PostScript content, you could use
Collagist. See SmartSoft's article in c.s.n.a today for contact
information.
Claude Carlier
University of Colorado
From: tseg@access2.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,dc.jobs,misc.jobs.offered,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXTStep/ObjectiveC; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Mar 1995 07:26:26 -0500
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., Mt. Airy, MD USA.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3k6mdi$mqt@access2.digex.net>
Summary: Long term contract; Excellent job environment
Keywords: DMS-100; SONET, SS5
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXT Step
4+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is preferred
8+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problems with PNI 1.11 with NS 3.3
Date: 15 Mar 1995 12:57:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3k6o89$8ds@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I've been having problems with PNI with NEXTSTEP 3.3 intel. I am able to make
a connection without problems, but after closing the connection, pni will never
work again until the computer is rebooted.
I noticed that once booted up in NEXTSTEP, the pnid that should be started
from rc.local is not running. I'm not doing anything fancy with pni - it is
straight off the pni 1.11 package.
I've been using pni for many months under 3.2 without problems, so this is a
new problem with 3.3. I have included the log from /usr/adm/pni.log when
trying to connect.
Anybody had this problem also and know how to solve it? Thanks in advance,
Varun
------
TransSys PNI 1.11 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.27 1994/08/13 17:51:51 louie Exp $)
Copyright (c) TransSys, Inc. All rights reserved.
license key: serial number 1 version 0 keyversion 0 features 0x49
license key: licensed to Plain Slip User
Loading package initialization file in /etc/pni/pnid.tcl
pnid: Operation mode is CLIENT
pnid: Test mode
pnid: using configuration in /etc/pni/config/pni0.config
Loaded bundle /etc/pni/PNI.encap for class PNI
Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/PNI.encap/PNI_objInit.tcl
Loaded bundle /etc/pni/SLIP.encap for class SLIP
Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/SLIP.encap/SLIP_objInit.tcl
Encap: loading class initialiation code from /etc/pni/TTY.encap/TTY_Init.tcl
Loaded bundle /etc/pni/TTY.encap for class TTY
Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/TTY.encap/TTY_objInit.tcl
--> configure: pni
--> configure: slip
--> configure: tty
Loaded bundle /etc/pni/Dialer.bundle for class Dialer
tty: Default to UUCP-style locking protocol
-slip stats: 0 packets, 0 compressed, 0 searches, 0 misses
- 0 uncompressed in, 0 compressed in, 0 error in, 0 tossed
Uptime is 0 seconds (since Wed Mar 15 01:33:08 1995 UTC)
283 TCL commands executed, 0.130 user, 0.080 system
Configuration complete
PNI pni: pni0 open on fd 4
=== TCL Error: Starting Encaps (phase1):
> cmdregister: cannot register with portmapper
=== errorCode
> NONE
=== errorInfo
> cmdregister: cannot register with portmapper
> while executing
> "cmdregister $i"
> invoked from within
> "if {$i>0} {
> cmdregister $i
> }"
> invoked from within
> "if {[info exists Config(CMD:prog)]} {
> cmdregister $Config(CMD:prog)
> } else {
> set i [getrpcbyname [[lindex $encapList 0] interface]]
> if ..."
> invoked from within
> "if {[string compare $phase phase1]==0} {
> #
> # Invoked to set registration of RPC command handler and
> # portmapper binding.
> #
> if {[info exists Co ..."
> (procedure "start_encaps" line 48)
> invoked from within
> "start_encaps phase1"
=== [end error dump]
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Do I want a sound card?
Date: 15 Mar 1995 13:20:27 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k6pir$4pp@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <3jkddj$tks@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In article <3jkddj$tks@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E.
Kotanchek) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of buying my NEXTSTEP/Intel system (100 MHz Pentium!
:) and
> the final item in the configuration is whether I NEEEED a sound card. My
>
> Mark.
The cost of a SoundBlaster 16 is minimal compared to the whole system. I
think no Next system should be without a soundcard...
Jonas.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 15 Mar 1995 14:57:31 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <robertzngnz8ypaeqt@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
> >>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
>
> >ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
>
> Does that support NeXT's rtf including rtfd?
I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to. In particular, most of the hi-bit
glyphs (including the em-dash and the left and right double-quotes) are
mapped incorrectly, and so the translator barfs on them.
Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT RTF, as
compared with the rest of the world, (2) rant about whose fault it is for
a while, and (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into
something that everyone else can use?
--
`Electricity by its very nature is somewhat |===============================
unpredictable.' -- Flyer from Baltimore G & E, | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370
August 1994, advocating more surge protectors. | burton@het.brown.edu
[Michael Faraday was unavailable for comment.] |===============================
From: r.lacelle@phoenix.ca (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: "The NeXT Big Thing"? Where can I get it?
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:16:00 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc
Message-ID: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Hi All,
There was a book about Steve Jobs called "The NeXT Big Thing" or
something to that affect. Could someone tell me if that's the proper
title, who the author is and what the isbn number is?
Thanks
-------
Richard Lacelle
Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc.
From: jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: App to convert TIFF to GIF image files
Date: 15 Mar 1995 17:07:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3k76sc$7b8@nntp3.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: GIF, TIFF, App
Does anyone know of an App that will convert TIFF (and hopefully eps and other
image file formats) to GIF? Thanks!
Jim
--
James C. Luby
Applied Physics Laboratory
University of Washington
Seattle, Wa. 98105
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From: wjs@ocelot.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: 15 Mar 1995 00:33:28 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3k68oo$1c6@ocelot.omnigroup.com>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado> <3jqs8p$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
GH Chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote:
>: Richard,
>: OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
>: What you'll have to do is:
>: dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
Upgrade to OmniWeb 1.0! I think PR2 has this fixed (newshost is on
the proxies panel), it's at:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/OmniWeb-1.0PR2.app.tar.gz
If it isn't fixed in PR2, it is in the final, which will be out this
week.
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From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
Date: 15 Mar 1995 19:21:39 GMT
Organization: Halaby Corporation
Message-ID: <3k7eo3$dit@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <9503141955.AA06566@alleg.EDU>
In article <9503141955.AA06566@alleg.EDU>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>
>really simple: I need more tabs in an RTF document in Edit.app. How
>do I add them?
>
>is it just me or would it be nice if there were some NeXTStep he
First, make sure the ruler is displayed.
Second, click *below* the tabs on the ruler where you want a new tab to
appear.
To delete a tab simply drag it off the right or left edge of the ruler.
Hope this helps.
Sam Schapmann
(ASCII only, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tfrey@bozell.com
Subject: Good NeXT ftp site
Message-ID: <1995Mar15.220201.488@bozell.com>
Keywords: NeXT, ftp
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 22:02:01 GMT
opinions expressed are strictly those of the user
and not necessarily those of BJK&E or its clients.
Where's the best NeXT ftp site? Also, where is a good place to get a
hold of some .tiff icons for pictures.
Thanks,
Tony
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tip, cufa, ATT dataport, NEXTSTEP?
Date: 15 Mar 95 14:21:17
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Mar15142117@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
I followed the instruction in NeXTLibrary/Documentation:Attaching-Modems
and modified /etc/remote, but cannot make 'tip' working with a ATT
dataport 14.4/fax modem. After seeing the LEDs flashing for few seconds,
all I got is "Cannot synchronize with hayes ...". Anybody knows the
trick to use dataport modem for NEXTSTEP?
I have another CHEAP modem, USRobots Sport14.4, will it work?
Regards,
zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: NETWARE Disconnection during copy
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.122350.11515@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 12:23:50 GMT
Hello
I try to connect our NeXTs to our PC Novell Netware Server since 3 month.
The connexion is OK but no way to copy file or exchange data > 2K
I tryed with different frames (ethernet_ii or ethernet_802.3)
the problem persist ... NEXTSTEP lost the connexion during the copy
if someone can help ???
Thanks by advance
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: NETWARE Disconnection during copy
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.122415.11578@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 12:24:15 GMT
Hello
I try to connect our NeXTs to our PC Novell Netware Server since 3 month.
The connexion is OK but no way to copy file or exchange data > 2K
I tryed with different frames (ethernet_ii or ethernet_802.3)
the problem persist ... NEXTSTEP lost the connexion during the copy
if someone can help ???
Thanks by advance
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: NETWARE Disconnection during copy
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.122528.11720@ares.fdn.fr>
Keywords: Netware
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 12:25:28 GMT
Hello
I try to connect our NeXTs to our PC Novell Netware Server since 3 month.
The connexion is OK but no way to copy file or exchange data > 2K
I tryed with different frames (ethernet_ii or ethernet_802.3)
the problem persist ... NEXTSTEP lost the connexion during the copy
if someone can help ???
Thanks by advance
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: NETWARE Disconnection during copy
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.132627.12275@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <1995Mar16.122415.11578@ares.fdn.fr>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 13:26:27 GMT
In article <1995Mar16.122415.11578@ares.fdn.fr>
gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry) writes:
>
> Hello
>
> I try to connect our NeXTs to our PC Novell Netware Server since 3
month.
>
> The connexion is OK but no way to copy file or exchange data > 2K
>
> I tryed with different frames (ethernet_ii or ethernet_802.3)
>
> the problem persist ... NEXTSTEP lost the connexion during the copy
>
> if someone can help ???
>
> Thanks by advance
>
> Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
> ARES Publisher
> 8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
> 69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
> France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
> Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
>
>
and if I launch npsd manually with verbose option
I get
ares:1# /usr/netware/etc/npsd -v
NPSD: Novell Protocol Suite Streams Architecture daemon.
NPSD: Trying Ethernet_II ...<got reply from ARES>
NPSD: Binding to network 00000001 using Ethernet_II frames.
NPSD: Configuring: LAN 0 00000001 /dev/nwen0
NPSD: NotifyIpxOfLan failed: Invalid argument
NPSD: ConfigureLan 0 notify of ipx failed
what is wrong ??
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume
Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Orrin C. Kerr)
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
Message-ID: <D5JDAq.6vH@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: ad244@freenet2.carleton.ca (Orrin C. Kerr)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
References: <9503141955.AA06566@alleg.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 13:54:25 GMT
In a previous posting, Timothy J Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) writes:
> really simple: I need more tabs in an RTF document in Edit.app. How
> do I add them?
>
> is it just me or would it be nice if there were some NeXTStep help
> for Edit.app?
>
So, I read this on my NeXT station, opened up the Edit app, clicked on
help and entered the word "tab" as a search argument and clicked on the
Find button until I came to this:
"The tab markers set the positions that the insertion point advances to
when you press the <Tab key. Drag a tab marker along the ruler to
reposition it. Drag a tab marker off either end of the ruler to remove it.
Click just below the ruler's scale to create a new tab marker."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So there you are. Where the documentation is a bit weak is on the subject
or Rulers themselves. It took me a bit of time and experimentation to
discover:
(1) You cant have a ruler in a plain ASCII document, only in rtf format.
(2) I never discovered how you can create a new ruler. However, If you
open the Help window, you can copy the ruler that is embedded in that
document and then paste it into your new document.
Seek and ye shall find.
(Newbie!)
;-)
--
Orrin C. Kerr
ad244@freenet.carleton.ca
All opinions expressed are my own and not the responsibility of
my innocent employer (who shall remain nameless)(but it's gummint).
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: "The NeXT Big Thing"? Where can I get it?
Message-ID: <espritD5JIsA.JI8@netcom.com>
Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List
References: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 15:52:57 GMT
Sender: esprit@netcom2.netcom.com
In article <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net> r.lacelle.phoenix.ca writes:
>There was a book about Steve Jobs called "The NeXT Big Thing" or
>something to that affect. Could someone tell me if that's the proper
>title, who the author is and what the isbn number is?
"R"eplying is coming up with a funny return address, so I am "F"ollowing-up
instead.
Title: "Steve Jobs & The NeXT Big Thing"
Author: Randall E. Stross
ISBN: 0-689-12135-0
One reason that you may have problems finding it is that it is misclassified
as "nonfiction".
--
Alan F. Perry
Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List
esprit@netcom.com
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: nvi for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 17 Mar 1995 01:41:25 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3kapc5$5lg@news.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.6
Has anyone ported nvi to NEXTSTEP?
--Dan
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From: bond@ee.ubc.ca (Greg Bond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing to a UNIX printer
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:49:35 -0800
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Eng., UBC
Message-ID: <bond-1403951249350001@bug.ee.ubc.ca>
References: <3jidq2$hs5@news1.wolfe.net> <3jkkcc$onh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <distler-1103951735170001@slip-13-15.ots.utexas.edu>
In article <distler-1103951735170001@slip-13-15.ots.utexas.edu>,
distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote:
> In article <3jkkcc$onh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, opus@athena.mit.edu
> (David C. Jedlinsky) wrote:
>
> My experience with InterPrint was very negative. I had a host of troubles
> installing it (One example of the -- totally undocumented -- pitfalls of
> the installation process: don't even TRY to install it if you have the LW8
> drivers installed. Drag them out of you system folder first, intall
> InterPrint, and then reinstall them. ), and
> in the end, never found it particularly useful. I could NEVER get it to
> print if the document contained fonts which were not resident in the
> printer (Times, Helvetica, . . .). InterCon's Tech Support, though very
> sympathetic, were never able to figure out what was wrong, though they
> assured me InterPrint was SUPPOSED to be able to use downloaded fonts
> (though VERY slowly).
>
> In the end, I pretty much gave up on the product.
>
> Jacques Distler
I am currently evaluating a copy of InterPrint. In my case InterPrint does
font downloading just fine. I also installed it with the LW 8.1 driver
installed with no problems (unless the fact that I can't seem to get the
InterPrint drag and drop utilities working is due to the LW 8.1
driver...). What bugs me is that InterPrint and MachTen are incompatible.
My Mac freezes when I try to run MachTen with InterPrint chosen....
--
Greg Bond == email: bond@ee.ubc.ca == Dept. of Electrical Engineering
voice: (604) 822 0899 University of British Columbia
fax: (604) 822 5949 2356 Main Mall, Vancouver, BC
Canada, V6T 1Z4
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 17 Mar 1995 02:10:46 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kar36$lf6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3ka55a$dg@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes
> In article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W.
> Burton) writes:
..
> }~ Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with
> }~ NeXT RTF, as compared with the rest of the world,
>
> It added features, then 'the rest of the world' came along and
> added some of the same, some different features, but ignored the
> NeXT lead.
>
> Used by MOST rtf2html converters use Stylesheet templates not
> supported by Edit.app and the Text object, or at least without
> a documented API (open a /NextLibrary /Documentation... ignoring
> RichText, and note that it was created on a Mac, as i recall).
>
> }~ (2) rant about whose fault it is for a while, and
> Naw, I'll leave that to you, and hopefully, you'll take it
> to csn.advocacy, the 'rant' newsgroup.
On the contrary, you concisely answered the `rant' part for me in
part 1 (once again, we recognize NeXT as the pioneer by the arrows
in its back), while leaving the actual content hanging. I already
knew that NEXTSTEP encoding was not ISO-Latin-1; I eagerly await
your promised web link, so that I can find out exactly how. Thanks
for at least answering part 2 here; if you'd gone to c.s.n.advocacy,
I'd never have seen it.
It's a control freak |======================================================
thing. I won't let you | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
understand. |======================================================
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From: jmartin@mccaw.com (Jeff Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can't resize shelf in Workspace
Date: 15 Mar 1995 20:59:06 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3k7keq$qqc@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
A co-worker is having problems making his shelf resizable. On my machine when
I go into the Workspace preferences and choose the shelf option, I get a check
box that makes the shelf resizable. However when my co-worker does the same he
only gets a blank panel with no controls. I checked on-line help and the
NeXTanswers archive, but could not find anything. Please email me at
jeff.t.martin@mccaw.com if you know how to solve the problem. He's running
release 3.2, Workspace version 367 on a Pentium.
Thanks,
-Jeff
From: datag@cadvision.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Q:help on rpc and serial kit.
Date: 16 Mar 1995 23:37:23 GMT
Organization: CADVision
Message-ID: <3kai3j$818@huey.cadvision.com>
References: <3kagpm$j33$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
Last time I looked, NeXTSTEP supported "Sun(OS) RPC". I don't know the version. I guess it's the same as the BSD.
For serial stuff, take a look at MiscKit on ftp.cc.orst.edu. It should have some serial port objects. (again, last time I looked)
Cris Ionescu
DataGraphics, Ltd
From: jonathan huang <75300.322@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q:help on rpc and serial kit.
Date: 16 Mar 1995 23:15:02 GMT
Organization: zeus communications
Message-ID: <3kagpm$j33$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
hello! I am new in next inviroment. I am looking for more info on
rpc on nextstep. I am wondering if there are tools to help or I
have to find stuff like rpc 4.0's bsd version source and compile
it under ns.
I also need more info on serial tools like serial kits. I am
wondering if there are equivolent greenleaf comm lib exit on ns
so I have file trnasfer, terminal emulation ready to be applied.
--
Physics, metaphysics, mathematics,..oh! the universe.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: NETWARE Disconnection during copy
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.170312.13604@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <1995Mar16.132627.12275@ares.fdn.fr>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 17:03:12 GMT
In article <1995Mar16.132627.12275@ares.fdn.fr>
gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry) writes:
> In article <1995Mar16.122415.11578@ares.fdn.fr>
> gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry) writes:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > I try to connect our NeXTs to our PC Novell Netware Server since 3
> month.
> >
> > The connexion is OK but no way to copy file or exchange data > 2K
> >
> > I tryed with different frames (ethernet_ii or ethernet_802.3)
> >
> > the problem persist ... NEXTSTEP lost the connexion during the copy
> >
> > if someone can help ???
> >
> > Thanks by advance
> >
> > Gery DIVRY
Hello Folks
I got a lot of answers, thanks to all the contributors
but the last answer was the good one
Ralf Weber from Koblenz in Germany ( Thanks again Ralf)
Suggest me to change the value of :
'maximum physical receive packet size'
to 1514 ( my previous value was 4202 )
in the startup.ncf file of my Novell server.
AND EVERYTHING WORK FINE NOW .....
Thanks again
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume
Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 16 Mar 1995 18:03:06 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3k9ugq$cfs@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
Joshua W. Burton writes
> > >>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
> >
> > >ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
> >
> > Does that support NeXT's rtf including rtfd?
>
> I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to. In particular, most of the
> hi-bit glyphs (including em-dash and the left / right double-quotes)
> are mapped incorrectly, and so the translator barfs on them.
>
> Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT
> RTF, as compared with the rest of the world,
Nothing is 'wrong' with NeXT RTF, other than the fact that NEXTSTEP uses
a different font encoding vector than PCs and Macs. You might as well
ask what is 'wrong' with Mac RTF, since it's not the same as PCs either.
NeXT did add some directives for new features (like ObjectLinks, help
markers, and smart cut-and-paste), but RTF readers are supposed to ignore
anything they don't understand.
Graphics are a separate issue. Rather than using the existing 'picture'
directives and making one big file with embedded graphics, NeXT chose to
make directory packages (hence the 'd' in the extension) with distinct
files. This is completely non-standard. It's a big problem on DOS, where
the fourth character in the extension gets chopped off.
> (2) rant about whose fault it is for a while, and
RTF readers are supposed to perform code page mapping as required, which
may be why the HTML program doesn't work. On the other hand, NEXTSTEP RTF
declares itself as conforming to the ANSI character set. I don't know
whether that's true, because I don't have a copy of the ANSI encoding
map handy. (I do have the ISO 8859-1 map, and NS is different from that.)
If the ANSI declaration is wrong, this is NeXT's fault. (Unless the
converter doesn't do mapping, in which it's both of their fault. 8^)
> (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into
> something that everyone else can use?
Dammit Jim, I'm an applications programmer, not a system geek. 8^)
Seriously, unless you know whether the other program does mappings, you
wouldn't know which character set to translate to. If you do know, it's
just a question of tediously mapping between them.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: "The NeXT Big Thing"? Where can I get it?
Date: 16 Mar 1995 19:25:52 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3ka3c0$n8m@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net> <espritD5JIsA.JI8@netcom.com>
Alan F. Perry (esprit@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net> r.lacelle.phoenix.ca writes:
: >There was a book about Steve Jobs called "The NeXT Big Thing" or
: >something to that affect. Could someone tell me if that's the proper
: >title, who the author is and what the isbn number is?
: "R"eplying is coming up with a funny return address, so I am "F"ollowing-up
: instead.
: Title: "Steve Jobs & The NeXT Big Thing"
: Author: Randall E. Stross
: ISBN: 0-689-12135-0
You might see if you can find the NeXT "Library of Congress" app into
which you can enter the ISBN and directly order the book from bookstore
is hooked into the app (I haven't played with the app in a while).
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503161608.AA12035@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 95 11:08:41 -0500
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app -- SOLVED!!
Cc: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us
Steps to get new tabs:
1) make sure the document is RTF
2) Show ruler (Format/Text/Make RTF OR cmd-shift-R)
3) click below the number line on the ruler.
Thanks to the many, many people who replied.
For some reason, the Edit.app on-line help is not available on all
the NeXTs here. Probably a space consideration or something.... I
don't claim to understand.
TjL
--
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CD-R Driver for KodakPhotoCD & CDPlayer
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:03:44 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3ka5j0$h25@news.nd.edu>
Hello,
I understand that Apple CD300 drive reads KodakPhotoCD.
Does it mean that I would not need any s/w driver on my
Motorola slab (NS3.2) to read photoCDs using this drive?
Should there be a need for such a driver, where would it be found ?
I have searched a few ftp & FAQ sites unsuccessfully.
Similarly, since the said drive is CDPlayer compatible, would it
be correct to assume that I could get sound through the slab's
speaker when using music CD-R on this drive without any other
driver ?
Thanks in anticipation for any light shed on the above.
Best Regards,
Ami
ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu
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From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <3ka71l$46f@news.next.com>
Control: cancel <3ka71l$46f@news.next.com>
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:32:07 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.6
<3ka71l$46f@news.next.com> was cancelled from within trn.
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From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:36:50 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ka7h3$481@news.next.com>
References: <robertzngnz8ypaeqt@audrey.dircon.co.uk> <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.brown.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=19701020; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.6
--19701020
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=body00
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=body00
In article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.brown.edu>,
Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote:
>> >>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
>>
>> >ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
>>
>> Does that support NeXT's rtf including rtfd?
>
>I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to. In particular, most of the hi-bit
>glyphs (including the em-dash and the left and right double-quotes) are
>mapped incorrectly, and so the translator barfs on them.
>
>Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT RTF, as
>compared with the rest of the world, (2) rant about whose fault it is for
>a while, and (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into
>something that everyone else can use?
In article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.brown.edu>, Joshua W. Burton
<burton@het.brown.edu> wrote:
>> >>Has anybody done any CGI scripts to convert RTF and RTFD to HTML?
>>
>> >ftp://ftp.cray.com/src/WWWstuff/RTF/rtftohtml_overview.html
>I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to. In particular, most of the hi-bit
>glyphs (including the em-dash and the left and right double-quotes) are
>mapped incorrectly, and so the translator barfs on them.
>
>Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT RTF, as
>compared with the rest of the world, (2) rant about whose fault it is for
>a while, and (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into
>something that everyone else can use?
3. Here's a little script a popular document retrieval system uses to
map part of the NEXTSTEP font encoding to ascii.
--19701020
Content-Type: application/x-perl; name="clean-rtf-ascii"; x-unix-mode=0755
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="clean-rtf-ascii"
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# To clean up NEXTSTEP encoding in RTF files
#
# Dan Grillo 93-05-04
$ver=2;
%map=(
"\252","``",
"\254","",
"\260","*",
"\261","--",
"\267","*",
"\272","''",
"\274","...",
"\276","",
"\320","--",
"\342","(R)",
"\343","(C)",
"\344","(TM)"
);
while($r=<STDIN>){
for $c (keys %map){
$r=~s/$c/$map{$c}/g;
}
print $r;
}
--19701020
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=body01
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=body01
--Dan
--19701020--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr)
Subject: "Fax-Merging"?
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.193116.10183@mjw.octagon.de>
Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de
Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:31:16 GMT
Hi there out!
Is there any possibility/tool/package to produce "fax-merge"-files?
What I would like to produce is a mail-merge-file, that is not printed and
put in envelopes, but faxed to the addressees ...
??
--
Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de
--
From: warnerr@beethoven ( richard warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: When/where/what about NEXT Expos??
Date: 17 Mar 1995 13:39:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3kc3dm$10jm@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Anyone have information on the NEXT expos for this year? I'm
wondering when they are, where they are, agendas, cost, training
opportunities, etc. Surprised there's been no info on this - I need
to know so can plan and budget for them (surely that's true for
everyone else too, right?!?).
Rich
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tip, cufa, ATT dataport, NEXTSTEP?
Date: 17 Mar 95 11:31:49
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Mar17113149@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <ZHAO.95Mar15142117@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
In-reply-to: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu's message of 15 Mar 95 14:21:17
Thanks for the replies and suggestions I received. However, my
'dial-out' still doesn't work.
I did some modification for /etc/remote and tried
tip dialer
tip fa38400 xxx-xxxx(phone#)
cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cufa
cu xxx-xxxx -s 38400 -l /dev/cufa
What I got now is
/dev/cufa: Device busy
link down
Still no good luck. I even tried MuxV1.7 driver.
Why do the two LEDs, TD and RD (or SD and RD), on the modem keep on
flashing after rebooting the system?
So much for this serial port!
zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 12:26:33 -0800
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9503172026.AA02297@pud>
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
In response to article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.brown.edu> in which
Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote:
>...
>Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT RTF,
>as compared with the rest of the world, (2) rant about whose fault it is
>for a while, and (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into
>something that everyone else can use?
Dan Grillo <grio@next.com> replied on 16 Mar 1995:
> 3. Here's a little script a popular document retrieval system uses to
> map part of the NEXTSTEP font encoding to ascii.
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> #
> # To clean up NEXTSTEP encoding in RTF files
> #
> # Dan Grillo 93-05-04
>
> $ver=2;
>
> %map=(
> "\252","``",
> "\254","",
> "\260","*",
> "\261","--",
> "\267","*",
> "\272","''",
> "\274","...",
> "\276","",
> "\320","--",
> "\342","(R)",
> "\343","(C)",
> "\344","(TM)"
> );
>
> while($r=<STDIN>){
> for $c (keys %map){
> $r=~s/$c/$map{$c}/g;
> }
> print $r;
> }
Having had some problems of this sort myself (mostly finding that commercial
printers love to turn my en-dashes into plus-or-minuses and so forth) I was
delighted to find this - until I looked at what it really does...
"\252","``", replace left double quote with two left single quotes
"\254","", delete less-than sign [?!]
"\260","*", replace circle-R with asterisk [?]
"\261","--", replace en-dash with two hyphens
"\267","*", replace bullet with asterisk [?]
"\272","''", replace right double quote with two right single quotes
"\274","...", replace ellipsis with three periods
"\276","", delete logical-not [?!]
"\320","--", replace em-dash with two hyphens [?]
"\342","(R)", replace i-acute with (R) [?!]
"\343","(C)", replace ordfeminine ("a-super") with (C) [?!]
"\344","(TM)" replace i-circumflex with (TM) [?!]
Since, out of 12 susbstitutions, 4 are typewriter constructs used only
when a reasonable set of printed characters are unavailable, 3 are incorrect
versions of typewriter substitutes (marked with [?]) and the remaining 5 are
clearly destructive or silly (marked with [?!]), I can only assume that the
calendars at NeXT have been set about 16 days ahead...
If someone has a serious version of this mapping I'd be very interested to
see it. In particular, I'd love to be able to give the printer a postscript
file that they can't misread, no matter what application they open it with...
Peter
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
From: sewall@ee.ualberta.ca (Jeremy Sam Sewall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: MusicKit for NextStep 3.0?
Date: 17 Mar 95 22:41:30 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <sewall.795480090@beaker>
Hi all!
I am trying to do some DSP programming using my
NeXTstation Turbo, and NeXTstep 3.0. So, I would
like to find the MusicKit, which is not bundled with
this version of NeXTstep.
Can anyone tell me where to find this software?
I found version 4.1.1 of the MusicKit, but I am
concerned that it won't like NeXTstep 3.0.
Thanks!!!
Jeremy
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ftp site
Date: 18 Mar 1995 08:30:24 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ke5n0$gkk@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <1995Mar15.220201.488@bozell.com>
tfrey@bozell.com wrote:
> Where's the best NeXT ftp site?
The most common are:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/next
ftp://sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next
Hope this helps!
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Manager of the Documentation Department
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
Date: 16 Mar 1995 19:43:39 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ka4db$d4@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3k7eo3$dit@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3k7eo3$dit@news.acns.nwu.edu> samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu
(Sam Schapmann) writes:
}~ In article <9503141955.AA06566@alleg.EDU>,
}~ Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
}~ >
}~ > really simple: I need more tabs in an RTF document in Edit.app.
}~ > How do I add them?
}~
}~ First, make sure the ruler is displayed.
}~
}~ Second, click *below* the tabs on the ruler where you want a
}~ new tab to appear.
Thanks for posting that. I've used Edit for YEARS and never found
*that* one!
Bruce
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: App to convert TIFF to GIF image files
Date: 16 Mar 1995 19:47:26 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3ka4ke$db@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3k76sc$7b8@nntp3.u.washington.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3k76sc$7b8@nntp3.u.washington.edu>
jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby) writes:
}~ Does anyone know of an App that will convert TIFF (and hopefully eps
and other
}~ image file formats) to GIF? Thanks!
}~
}~ Jim
Most NEXTSTEP generated (but not all combinations) can be handled with...
tifftopnm < some.tiff | ppmtogif > some.gif
tifftopnm and ppmtogif are part of the Ponzkanzer
filter suite on various generic Unix sites. Also on
the uni-muenchen archive in binary only for m68k only
last I looked.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction <URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 16 Mar 1995 19:56:26 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ka55a$dg@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W.
Burton) writes:
}~ I just tried it, and it doesn't seem to. In particular, most of
}~ the hi-bit glyphs (including the em-dash and the left and right
}~ double-quotes) are mapped incorrectly, and so the translator barfs
}~ on them.
Then the translator needs to be altered to handle NEXTSTEP encoding,
which is NOT the same as ISO-Latin-1, but for the most part, a superset.
}~ Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with
}~ NeXT RTF, as compared with the rest of the world,
It added features, then 'the rest of the world' came along and
added some of the same, some different features, but ignored the
NeXT lead.
Used by MOST rtf2html converters use Stylesheet templates not
supported by Edit.app and the Text object, or at least without
a documented API (open a /NextLibrary /Documentation... ignoring
RichText, and note that it was created on a Mac, as i recall).
}~ (2) rant about whose fault it is for a while, and
Naw, I'll leave that to you, and hopefully, you'll take it
to csn.advocacy, the 'rant' newsgroup.
}~ (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT RTF into something
}~ that everyone else can use?
It's not that simple. NOBODY ELSE (that I've found) handles either
rtfd style inserts, nor NeXT-Help links, but I'll stuff a conversion
table as a link from my homepage shortly. Got it in pretty good shape
but not completely presentable.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction <URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer and gzip compression ?
Date: 18 Mar 1995 12:27:48 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kejk4$4bj@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <D5CKDt.DG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
In article <D5CKDt.DG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes:
> Hi,
>
> Right now, I'm using flat files with NewsGrazer and it works fine. So
far,
> I'm receiving all News with no compression at all. It works great, but
as
> I subscribed to more and more Newsgroups, it takes a long time to
download
> from my provider through a 14400bps line. I asked him about how to
improve
> the speed of the transmission and he told me he could gzip all the news
if
> only I could make sure that I'm able to receive and decompress them.
Your 14400 modem already uses hardware compression to send or receive
data. Compressing the data some more will not enhance throughput as you
cannot further compress the compressed files (if that would be possible,
one could just keep compressing any file until it had a lenght of one byte
- then you could have fast throughput indeed). So forget about zipping the
news. Your modem is already doing the best it can.
Jonas.
From: How@Panix.com (Howard Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help
Date: 18 Mar 1995 13:13:27 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <How-1803950811580001@how.dialup.access.net>
Hi y'all. I am new to the NeXT world and am experiencing much difficulty
locating cables and other necessities. Does anyone know either a vendor
here in New York City of a decent Mail order house where I can get things
like monitor cables or Modem cables in addition to software?
hanks for any and all help.
Howie Schneider
how@panix.com
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: I'm a father!...of a new baby black cube...
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:25:04 -0600
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <lwallyci-1803952225040001@dal16.onramp.net>
And I have NO IDEA what i'm doing! I bought it on a whim and would
appreciate Any And All Help!: Whos wheres whys hows. Where do I start and
where will it end!? Really though, I'm a Mac guy, and now own an old '030
cube, b/w monitor, broken keyboard, +/- 300 M HD (next formatted) a Laser
printer, a 230? M optical, no floppy, no CD and a borrowed NextStep s/w. I
appreciate the concept...but now I have to make it work and gulp..even Use
It! If any of you would bother, I'd be Very Grateful to you all!
Leslie Connally
lwallyci@onramp.net
(cross posted to .hardware, and .announce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Message-ID: <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 15:36:48 GMT
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> ...I feel as if we should set up a c.s.n.jobs newsgroup...
I agree. This is long overdue.
I'm especialy sick of seeing the same posting every 10th or so
posting about generic NeXTstep jobs in IL.
--
Steve Dekorte
NeXTstep/Objective-C developer
dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net /~dekorte
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 19 Mar 1995 06:09:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3kghri$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com>
In article <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes:
[stuff about a new group with NeXTstep jobs]
--
I think this is an OUTSTANDING idea, but will there be enough posts and votes
for the group?
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Message for John Friend at Link Laters (London)
Date: 18 Mar 1995 09:47:29 +0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertzngiyl95tmmb@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
cc: netsec@omnigroup.com
John can you please remove yourself from the lists that you were subscribed
using your old att mail address
Original-Date: Sun Mar 12 05:52:14 -0800 1995
Original-Subject: Re: Pop Quiz... textWillEnd:
Confirming-MTS-Message-ID: <internet0711353540>
Not-Delivered-To: rattle/REPORT@attmail.com due to code 11 "Transfer Failure";
Supplementary-info "System rattle failed to pick up your messages, we are still waiting"
En-Route-To: jfriend@rattle.attmail.com
This was on next-prog@omnigroup.com
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 20:55:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary
Message-ID: <3ki5oe$81e@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
References: <9503172026.AA02297@pud>
In article <9503172026.AA02297@pud> Peter Langston
<pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com> writes:
> In response to article <3k6v8s$ki3@cat.cis.brown.edu> in which
> Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote:
> >...
> >Could someone please (1) summarize exactly what is `wrong' with NeXT
> >RTF, as compared with the rest of the world, (2) rant about whose fault
> >it is for a while, and (3) sketch out a 'tr'-based script to turn NeXT
> >RTF into something that everyone else can use?
>
This problem seems to come up every few months. Maybe it is time
for an FAQ entry.
Well, "tr" actually is not always the way to do it, because
(theoretically) 8-bit characters should not be directly encoded into an
RTF stream. They are *supposed* to be 7-bit streams, and 8-bit characters
are supposed to be encoded as: \'xx, where "xx" is the hexadecimal value
of the character in the character set stated at the top of the file (i.e.
{\rtf1\ansi, or {\rtf1\mac, etc.).
This brings up an issue that *I* consider a bug. If a file says
it is using the \ansi character-set encoding, it should be the
responsibility of the reader to convert it into the native equivalent.
With NextStep, this should mean it converts character sets stated as \ansi
into NextStep's IsoLatin1 encoding, and if NextStep writes out an RTF
file, it should either convert it back to the \ansi encoding, or it should
*at*least* declare its own character-set type, for example \isolatin1, or
\next, or something like that, and write out the native encoding. As
currently implemented, there is no way to know whether the encoding really
is "ansi" or is NextStep's. I consider this a bug.
Anyway, empirically, many applications do write 8-bit streams (yet
another bug, or is this allowed in more recent revisions of the RTF
spec?), and for these, a "tr" script will work. See below for a crude
attempt that probably has plenty of holes. Alternatively, get GNU
"recode" from prep.ai.mit.edu. It supports NeXT's IsoLatin1 encoding and
a large number of others. For files that do follow the \'xx encoding of
8-bit characters, get Nik A Gervae's "rtffix" program, which has mappings
to and from Macs, but which can be set up for others.
The whole business of 8-bit characters in RTF files is messy. I
wish NeXT would make an attempt to better deal with it by observing the
{\rtf1\charsetname statement at the top of RTF files, or making it a
system default whether it observes it, and always writing out compliant
versions, or at least stating explicitely in the documentation what
standard is to be followed. Edit.app, for example, currently writes out
the \ansi character set indicator, but the actual encoding is NextStep's
native encoding, and all the characters are entered as 8-bit.
========CUT HERE===========
#!/bin/csh
# ansi2next - shell script to transliterate ANSI higher ASCII (8-bit)
# characters (e.g., Windoze)
# into NextStep mapping (IsoLatin1).
# No characters are lost, however there are some values in the ANSI
# standard that are undefined. These will pass through unmodified, and
# could turn out to be anything.
# A. MacRae (macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca)
tr '\240\241\242\243\244\245\246\247\
\250\251\252\253\254\255\256\257\
\260\261\262\263\264\265\266\267\
\270\271\272\273\274\275\276\277\
\300\301\302\303\304\305\306\307\
\310\311\312\313\314\315\316\317\
\320\321\322\323\324\325\326\
\330\331\332\333\334\335\336\337\
\340\341\342\343\344\345\346\347\
\350\351\352\353\354\355\356\357\
\360\361\362\363\364\365\366\
\370\371\372\373\374\375\376\377' \
'\200\241\242\243\250\245\265\247\
\310\240\343\253\276\261\260\305\
\312\321\311\314\302\235\266\267\
\313\300\353\273\322\323\324\277\
\201\202\203\204\205\206\341\207\
\210\211\212\213\214\215\216\217\
\220\221\222\223\224\225\226\
\351\227\230\231\232\233\234\373\
\325\326\327\330\331\332\361\333\
\334\335\336\337\340\342\344\345\
\346\347\354\355\356\357\360\
\371\362\363\364\366\367\374\375'
==========CUT HERE======
#!/bin/csh
# next2ansi - shell script to transliterate NextStep mapping (IsoLatin1)
# into ANSI higher ASCII (8-bit) characters (e.g., Windoze).
# Some characters are "lost" (e.g., Lslash) because they are not
represented
# in the ANSI character set. However, all alphanumerics are kept.
# "Lost" characters pass through unchanged (not a good thing!)
# A. MacRae (macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca)
tr '\200\241\242\243\250\245\265\247\
\310\240\343\253\276\261\260\305\
\312\321\311\314\302\235\266\267\
\313\300\353\273\322\323\324\277\
\201\202\203\204\205\206\341\207\
\210\211\212\213\214\215\216\217\
\220\221\222\223\224\225\226\
\351\227\230\231\232\233\234\373\
\325\326\327\330\331\332\361\333\
\334\335\336\337\340\342\344\345\
\346\347\354\355\356\357\360\
\371\362\363\364\366\367\374\375' \
'\240\241\242\243\244\245\246\247\
\250\251\252\253\254\255\256\257\
\260\261\262\263\264\265\266\267\
\270\271\272\273\274\275\276\277\
\300\301\302\303\304\305\306\307\
\310\311\312\313\314\315\316\317\
\320\321\322\323\324\325\326\
\330\331\332\333\334\335\336\337\
\340\341\342\343\344\345\346\347\
\350\351\352\353\354\355\356\357\
\360\361\362\363\364\365\366\
\370\371\372\373\374\375\376\377'
==========CUT HERE===========
--
-Andrew
macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer and gzip compression ?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 01:40:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3kimei$1ne@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <D5CKDt.DG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> <3kejk4$4bj@sparc.eunet.si>
>> So forget about zipping the
>> news. Your modem is already doing the best it can.
But gzipping will compress better than the modem can. Often significantly
better. The modem's compression is designed to not noticably expand
already compressed data, so gzipping will be a win for modem transmissions.
mark
From: Internet Consulting <rjw@escape.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: All Your repairs
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 20:56:10 -0500
Organization: Escape Internet Access (212-888-8780).
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950319205458.23042Y-100000@escape.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on a Gateway/2000 486DX2
Message-ID: <cjonesD5q4tB.JIv@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <cjonesD5Ez74.JGH@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 05:34:22 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom4.netcom.com
please see my followup post in comp.sys.next.bugs.
I found an article on the IDE problem, but still am looking
for a solution to installing on my scsi hard disk.
thanks,
carl
Carl Jones (cjones@netcom.com) wrote:
: I have a Gateway/2000 486DX2, Adaptec 1542B, Segate 500MB SCSI,
: Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM.
: I had NeXTSTEP 3.1 running, along with DOS.
: I then added a Maxtor 540MB IDE drive and upgraded by BIOS.
: Now I cannot load NeXTSTEP 3.1, 3.2, or 3.3
: It says it cannot find my CD-ROM.
: From DOS it is listed w/Segate as SCSI 0 and Toshiba SCSI 2.
: These are the recommendations/requirements given in the NeXT
: Install guide for 3.2.
: This must be a configuration problem of some kind; can anyone
: help me track it down?
: I can be reached via email at: cjones@netcom.com
: thanks for any help!
: carl
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 20 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3kj30s$d21@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXTSTEP related site refs (was Re: Good NeXT ftp site)
Date: 20 Mar 1995 04:05:17 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kiutt$ub@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ke5n0$gkk@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3ke5n0$gkk@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin
Michlmayr) writes:
}~ tfrey@bozell.com wrote:
}~
}~ > Where's the best NeXT ftp site?
}~
}~ The most common are:
}~
}~ ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next
}~ ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/next
}~ ftp://sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next
For a more complete list, web over to my homepage (which has a
variety), or straight to my NeXTSTEP FTP page:
<URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/FTP_Refs.html>
Nevertheless, the above 3 *are* the heaviest use, and most complete
sites. On the other hand, uni-muenchin is busier and busier, and when
the east coast of the US gets high traffic, it's getting harder and
harder to get a good connection (European evening hours), as traceroute
reveals.
uni-muenchin has at least FIVE mirrors. All are listed on that page,
but not all are live on the Internet!
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction <URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 04:36:47 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kj0ov$uo@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ki5oe$81e@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3ki5oe$81e@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew
MacRae) in response to this thread, writes:
}~ Well, "tr" actually is not always the way to do it, because
}~ (theoretically) 8-bit characters should not be directly encoded
}~ into an RTF stream.
Absolutely.
}~ They are *supposed* to be 7-bit streams, and 8-bit characters
}~ are supposed to be encoded as: \'xx, where "xx" is the hexadecimal
}~ value of the character in the character set stated at the top of
}~ the file (i.e. {\rtf1\ansi, or {\rtf1\mac, etc.).
However, NeXT is using the single-gull-left character in rtfd as
a control indicator.
}~ This brings up an issue that *I* consider a bug. If a file says
}~ it is using the \ansi character-set encoding, it should be the
}~ responsibility of the reader to convert it into the native equivalent.
}~ With NextStep, this should mean it converts character sets stated as
}~ \ansi into NextStep's
I quite agree
}~ IsoLatin1 encoding,
Whooops .. NeXT encoding is *NOT* ISO-Latin-1, althougth
it largely contains a superset of 8859-1
See the page I put up today
<URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/HTML.Entity.QuickRef.html>
for a quick xref between NeXT encoding and ISO-Latin-1 as implemented
for html - and a bit beyond.
}~ and if NextStep writes out an RTF file, it should either convert
}~ it back to the \ansi encoding, or it should *at*least* declare its
}~ own character-set type, for example \isolatin1, or \next, or
I definitely agree that it should either convert, or barring that,
define it as "\next".
}~ something like that, and write out the native encoding. As
}~ currently implemented, there is no way to know whether the
}~ encoding really is "ansi" or is NextStep's. I consider this a bug.
[balance omitted, including useful tr/sh script]
In the following "rich NewsGrazer posting", are sample comparison
PostScript displays which are short-cutted to compare ISO-Latin-1 and
NeXT-Encoding...
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's .rtf and .rtfd to HTML? (NewsGrazer RICH posting)
Date: 20 Mar 1995 04:37:30 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kj0qa$v1@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ki5oe$81e@ra.lib.ucalgary.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I quite agree with many of Andrew MacRae's comments in this
thread, and understand the frustration of others regarding the lack
of (bundled) conversion tools for NeXT's RichText, and that of other
manufacturers and defacto (if not particularly official) standards.
Here, though are sample pages of NeXT-encoding vs ISO-Latin-1
vs Adobe "standard" encoding, (all three of which are understood by
Windowserver). Because I've taken the lazy way out, these will
ONLY display properly on a NEXTSTEP system - will not print out
properly on other than a NLP - etc. Nevertheless, I find 'em a handy
reference. For those who are reading news without benefit of
NewsGrazer, the below can be extracted with uudecode and a bit of
hacking. I'll also try to get the below posted in .gif format in a
link off my homepage.
---
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY
We do consulting over Internet.
E-Mail <tss@TotSysSoft.com> for quotes or
more info.
=>
Homepage under construction
<URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/index.html>
NEXT IN LINE staff technical writer
Multimedia: NeXTmail preferred MIME-mail welcome
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From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 20 Mar 1995 04:43:01 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kj14l$v4@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3kghri$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3kghri$mro@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
(Jessica L Mosher) writes:
}~ In article <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
}~ writes:
}~ [stuff about a new group with NeXTstep jobs]
}~
}~ --
}~ I think this is an OUTSTANDING idea, but will there be enough posts
}~ and votes for the group?
It'll certainly get *my* vote, so long as someone crossposts the RFD
and call for votes *here*. I just don't have time to follow the news.*
hierearchy.
Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc
From: bkr@rennhak.hanse.de (Bernd Karl Rennhak)
Subject: Question with 'file' and 'run'
Message-ID: <D5n6ys.F6@rennhak.hanse.de>
Organization: Rennhak Software, ntm.
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 15:28:03 GMT
Maybe this is a simple question, but I cant find the answer in the
documentation I have.
With the 'file' or 'run' command you refer to a operating system file.
I tried to use run in an eps-file.
That worked fine in Preview. ( I am on NEXTSTEP ).
But when I try to send the same eps-file to the printer ( HP 4MP ),
the printer chokes and prints an error message:
ERROR: undefinedfilename
OFFENFING COMMAND: file
STACK:
(r)
(/usr2/bkr/xyz.dat)
How can I manage, that the secondary file is sent to the printer ?
--
##### Bernd Karl Rennhak, Keplerstr.35, D-22763 Hamburg #####
##### mail bkr@rennhak.hanse.de phone +49-40-3902805 #####
From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@acs.uswest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:
Date: 20 Mar 1995 13:21:42 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3kjvh6$78a@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
References: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net> <espritD5JIsA.JI8@netcom.com>
esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) wrote:
>
> In article <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net> r.lacelle.phoenix.ca writes:
> >There was a book about Steve Jobs called "The NeXT Big Thing" or
> >something to that affect. Could someone tell me if that's the proper
> >title, who the author is and what the isbn number is?
>
> "R"eplying is coming up with a funny return address, so I am "F"ollowing-up
> instead.
>
> Title: "Steve Jobs & The NeXT Big Thing"
> Author: Randall E. Stross
> ISBN: 0-689-12135-0
It's $24 from the Computer Literacy Book Store in San Jose, they are
in stock at 2 stores, but low.
You can order from them via email, once you have an account
set up (takes a day).
Check out http://www.clbooks.com for complete details.
Paul.
From: juergen@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de(Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Staring an app
Date: 19 Mar 1995 18:00:10 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <3khrfa$ku@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Normaly when you start an app, it's icon is being installed at the bottom
of the screen, starting at the left. Somehow this isn't the way it is done
on my NextStep (Intel). It once worked fine, but now there is always left
room for two icons on the left. So the new icon starts on the third
position. I don't know how I did this and I don't know how I can change
this. So if anyone does, please help me.
Maybe Liftoff has something to do with this. I tried this programm a few
weeks ago and deleted it, because I didn't like it. I can't tell exactly,
because I rebooted my computer a few days later and since then I have the
problem. If I log in with another account everything is fine.
--
Bye Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb juergen@eisbaer.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: kherrman@CERF.NET (Kurt Herrmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: "Fax-Merging"?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 11:44:14 -0800
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <3kklue$447@nic.cerf.net>
References: <1995Mar16.193116.10183@mjw.octagon.de>
Manfred W"uhr (mane@mjw.octagon.de) wrote:
: Hi there out!
: Is there any possibility/tool/package to produce "fax-merge"-files?
: What I would like to produce is a mail-merge-file, that is not printed and
: put in envelopes, but faxed to the addressees ...
: ??
: --
: Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de
: --
Manfred,
One possibility is AddressBlaster from my company, StepAhead Software.
AddressBlaster is a contact manager that does mail-merge for print, fax,
and email. If you have NS 3.3, you can find a demo version of AddressBlaster
on the NeXT 3.3 Third Party CD. List price is $299, so there may be
cheaper ways to get what you need. But if you also need a good contact
manager, you might like it.
Let me know (by email or phone, please) if you want more information.
- Kurt
Kurt Herrmann
StepAhead Software
kurt@stepahead.com
(619) 459-9123
--
Kurt Herrmann
StepAhead Software
kurt@stepahead.com
(619) 459-9123
From: jsum@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Joey Sum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can I send 'strip'ed binaries to others?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 09:36:44 -0700
Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept.
Message-ID: <3kkaus$t07@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
Hi,
Can I send binaries that I have strip'ed to other people using ns/black?
I'm not really literate on UNIX, so I'm not sure.
Thanks,
Joey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer and gzip compression ?
Message-ID: <1995Mar19.220406.1515@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3kejk4$4bj@sparc.eunet.si>
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:04:06 GMT
In article <3kejk4$4bj@sparc.eunet.si> jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
writes:
> Your 14400 modem already uses hardware compression to send or receive
> data. Compressing the data some more will not enhance throughput as you
> cannot further compress the compressed files (if that would be
possible,
> one could just keep compressing any file until it had a lenght of one
byte
> - then you could have fast throughput indeed). So forget about zipping
the
> news. Your modem is already doing the best it can.
>
This is definitely wrong. Modem compression is much worse than gzip.
Every good news provider spools news compressed. The standard CNEWS
distribution understands only compressed news, not gzipped. A small hack
is necessary to use gzip instead of compress. [At least in my CNEWS :-)]
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: mccollam@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Donald E McCollam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu still alive?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 21:42:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3kkssb$12t0@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
I hope whatever problem they're having up at orst.edu isn't permanent.
I've been unable to do an "anonymous" ftp to ftp.cs.orst.edu for two days.
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: my first cube..(apology)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 19:00:39 -0600
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <lwallyci-200395190039@dal13.onramp.net>
I was admonished by e-mail:
>Well, massive cross-posting was not the best way to introduce yourself
>to a group.
Apologies to all, with additional apologies for the bandwidth for this
apology.
I had just bought my first Cube, with some problems, and was desparate for
help. I wasn't sure if those of you who read .hardware also always read
.software read dot misc etc. I was just trying to cover my bases.
Sorry!
Leslie Connally
lwallyci@onramp,net
(this *only* posted here at comp.sys.next.misc)
From: jstock@next.com (Jim Stockford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
Date: 21 Mar 1995 02:41:01 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3klebt$9u@news.next.com>
References: <9503161608.AA12035@alleg.EDU>
In article <9503161608.AA12035@alleg.EDU> writes:
>
> Steps to get new tabs:
>
> 1) make sure the document is RTF
> 2) Show ruler (Format/Text/Make RTF OR cmd-shift-R)
> 3) click below the number line on the ruler.
>
> Thanks to the many, many people who replied.
>
> For some reason, the Edit.app on-line help is not available on all
> the NeXTs here. Probably a space consideration or something.... I
> don't claim to understand.
>
> TjL
>
You checked the Info submenu? That should have a Help item.
If it's not there, respond, please.
--jim
> --
> Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
> NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
> Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
> If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 21 Mar 1995 03:09:43 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3klg1n$h64@news.tamu.edu>
References: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com> <3klbgn$lvu@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
In article <3klbgn$lvu@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Eric M Hermanson <zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> wrote:
>In article <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes:
>>(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
>>> ...I feel as if we should set up a c.s.n.jobs newsgroup...
>
>>I agree. This is long overdue.
>
I've been holding my tongue until now, but this posting (no offense, Eric ;)
and a couple of glasses of sangria have conspired to make me voice my
opinion, humble though it may be.
1) While I would love for there to be enough NeXT-related job postings on
the net to justify a separate newsgroup, I just don't see the demand for it.
(Heck, I'd love to get a NeXT-related job myself--anybody hiring? ;)
I can _maybe_ understand people objecting to job postings on the existing
NeXT groups, if that traffic were excessive or obtrusive. But the fact is,
it's not. How many job postings do we see here in a week? 3? 7? 15?
Even if it were as high as 15 (I am more inclined to say the average is
more in the 3-5 range), I don't think even 15 is enough to justify an
entire new group.
>Since proposing this new newsgroup, I have learned the process you need to
>go through to set up a new group. It is un-necessarily complicated, requiring
>a discussion session, voting session, and approval session by self-appointed
>net 'gods'. I don't have the time to do all of this, but if anyone is
>willing to follow the formal procedures to set up this group, we would all
>probably appreciate it.
2) "Un-necessarily complicated"? The process is designed to make people
put some thought into the creation of a new group. It has nothing to do
with "self-appointed net 'gods'". It has to do with a significant number
of people seeing a _real_need_ for an entirely separate "thread". In fact,
considering the numbers of people who read and/or participate in Usenet,
the "requirements" are low, in my opinion.
For those not familiar with the group creation process, it goes something
like this:
1 month discussion period
1 month voting period
5 day "approval" period
Votes:
more than 100 more yes votes than no votes
more than 2/3 of the total votes in favor
The "approval" period is not designed to allow "self-appointed net 'gods'"
to flex their muscles or egos. It is designed to allow anyone with a
concern that the vote was compromised by foul play to speak up and
show evidence to that effect.
Is a month too long for discussion or voting? I don't think so. How
often are people expected to read news? Once an hour? Once a day? Once
a week? Though there are those who read messages as they come in,
virtually one at a time (*blush*) there are likewise those who keep
up on a much more extended schedule. The 1-month time period is a
reasonable time to allow those who are not free to read news frequently.
I have in the past volunteered to do the grunt work for creating a
new group: comp.sys.next.bugs. With that group, I was convinced there
was a real need for it, and in fact it has turned out to be almost
completely unnecessary. It was not a difficult process, however.
If you are not sufficiently interested in the new group to spend the
time required to survey others who may be affected by or involved in
the new group, I venture to guess that it is a safe bet the group is
not important enough to warrant its creation.
Lusty
--
So fine she was,
so soft, so silky-coated-
Her very mew had quality!
-Jean de la Fontaine
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: adding more tab spaces in RTF with Edit.app
Date: 21 Mar 1995 03:15:10 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3klgbu$hb0@news.tamu.edu>
References: <9503161608.AA12035@alleg.EDU> <3klebt$9u@news.next.com>
In article <3klebt$9u@news.next.com>, Jim Stockford <jstock@next.com> wrote:
>In article <9503161608.AA12035@alleg.EDU> writes:
>>
>> For some reason, the Edit.app on-line help is not available on all
>> the NeXTs here. Probably a space consideration or something.... I
>> don't claim to understand.
>
>You checked the Info submenu? That should have a Help item.
>If it's not there, respond, please.
When I check the Help item on the Info submenu, I get a message saying
"NeXTSTEP Help isn't available for Edit."
This is under 3.2 on Intel. Edit is Release 3.0 (v84).
Lusty
--
So fine she was,
so soft, so silky-coated-
Her very mew had quality!
-Jean de la Fontaine
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!news.inhouse.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news
From: jonathan huang <75300.322@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 20 Mar 1995 22:37:19 GMT
Organization: zeus communications
Message-ID: <3kl02v$f3n$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
References: <3kghri$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
I second the idea to set the news group up.
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: bmarchan@quest.fdn.org (Benoit Marchant)
Subject: Does DoomII exist for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.174429.17707@quest.fdn.org>
Keywords: Doom II
Sender: news@quest.fdn.org
Organization: Quest International / Unilever - Neuilly, France
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 17:44:29 GMT
Does someone know wether Doom II is availlable for NeXTSTEP or not and
where it could be found if it exists ?
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Workspace on remote machine?
Date: 21 Mar 1995 04:14:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3kljra$mb0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Currently I use NXHost to launch individual applications on a remote
NeXT. I would really have the whole workspace displayed on a remote machine
if I cannot get physical access to my own machine.
I didn't find how to do that in the FAQs or NeXTAnswers.
Can anyone help?
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice/fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: object@crl.com (Robert Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing .rtfd files?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 20:29:21 -0800
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest]
Message-ID: <3klkn2$1r2@crl11.crl.com>
I don't have a color next printer and I need to print out some .rtfd
files...does anyone know how to somehow convert these to be printed on
DOS HP printers? Any suggestions on taking these files to Kinko's? Can
these files be converted to postscript files?
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Should we set up comp.sys.next.jobs.offered ??
Date: 21 Mar 1995 01:52:23 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3klbgn$lvu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3jsp4q$aac@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com>
In article <D5n7DD.Dnt@marble.com> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes:
>(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>> ...I feel as if we should set up a c.s.n.jobs newsgroup...
>I agree. This is long overdue.
Since proposing this new newsgroup, I have learned the process you need to
go through to set up a new group. It is un-necessarily complicated, requiring
a discussion session, voting session, and approval session by self-appointed
net 'gods'. I don't have the time to do all of this, but if anyone is
willing to follow the formal procedures to set up this group, we would all
probably appreciate it.
Also, I was told the group couldn't be called comp.sys.next.jobs, it would
have to be called misc.next.jobs, or somthing similar. Who knows?
Eric
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: "The NeXT Big Thing"? Where can I get it?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 14:57:07 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950319145433.13901D-100000@avocado>
References: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3k6t6o$5p5@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Richard,
The book is called: Steve Jobs & The NeXT Big Thing, by Randall
E. Stross. published by Atheneum in 1993. ISBN 0-689-12135-0
I got my copy last summer while in SF attending the NEXTEXPO 94.
Fun read.
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
On Wed, 15 Mar 1995, Richard Lacelle wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There was a book about Steve Jobs called "The NeXT Big Thing" or
> something to that affect. Could someone tell me if that's the proper
> title, who the author is and what the isbn number is?
>
> Thanks
>
> -------
> Richard Lacelle
> Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc.
>
>
>
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ircii 2.8 client for NS (b or w)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 15:13:31 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950319151236.13901E-100000@avocado>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi,
Has anyone successfully complied ircii client (v.2.8) for either
black or white hardware? If so, could you post your Makefile or changes?
Thanks!
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
From: peer@gaia.hanse.de (Peer Sandtner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenSource: Are they still in business?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 18:12:25 GMT
Organization: private SiTE
Message-ID: <3kkgi9$79a@gaia.hanse.de>
Hello,
I've tried several times to contact OpenSource - no respond.
Helloooo Dan, I would like to order!
Peer
---
Peer Sandtner peer@gaia.hanse.de
Jahnstrasse 18 MIME, NeXTmail
21465 Reinbek Tel: +49 40 722 64 91
Germany Fax: +49 40 722 67 49
Yes, it (still) will. (PasteUp T-shirt)
From: hkhenson@cup.portal.com (H Keith Henson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: GNU smalltalk for Next?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 18:40:06 -0800
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <135255@cup.portal.com>
Sorry to ask what may be a really dumb question--but does anyone know if
anyone has gnu smalltalk running in a nextstep window? (It's a weird
question I admit.) Keith Henson
From: clarke@lsl.co.uk (Clarke Brunt)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Question with 'file' and 'run'
Message-ID: <1995Mar21.124152.5246@lsl>
Date: 21 Mar 95 12:41:52 +0000
References: <D5n6ys.F6@rennhak.hanse.de>
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge
In article <D5n6ys.F6@rennhak.hanse.de>, bkr@rennhak.hanse.de (Bernd Karl Rennhak) writes:
> With the 'file' or 'run' command you refer to a operating system file.
> I tried to use run in an eps-file.
> That worked fine in Preview. ( I am on NEXTSTEP ).
>
> But when I try to send the same eps-file to the printer ( HP 4MP ),
> the printer chokes and prints an error message:
>
> ERROR: undefinedfilename
> OFFENFING COMMAND: file
> How can I manage, that the secondary file is sent to the printer ?
You can't. Just include the actual file at the point you want to run it.
The printer probably has no filing system at all, and even if it had
one of its own would be unlikely to see the one on your host.
--
Clarke Brunt (CCB), Principal Software Engineer, Laser-Scan Ltd, Science Park,
Milton Rd, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 4FY, England. Tel: (+44) (0)1223 420414; Fax: 420044
Email: CLARKE@LSL.CO.UK (via BRITAIN.EU.NET)
From: steve@test.bader.org (Steve White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu still alive?
Date: 21 Mar 1995 15:37:23 GMT
Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. 414-476-4266
Message-ID: <3kmrrj$fqm@beta.inc.net>
References: <3kkssb$12t0@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
In article <3kkssb$12t0@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
mccollam@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Donald E McCollam) writes:
> I hope whatever problem they're having up at orst.edu isn't permanent.
> I've been unable to do an "anonymous" ftp to ftp.cs.orst.edu for two
days.
I just ftp'ed in with no problems. Try again and if you still can't get
in it may simply be full up with anonymous users. It's a fairly popular
site.
Steven White
System Admin, Helen Bader Foundation
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to use NXHost over dynamic slip?
Date: 21 Mar 1995 16:59:46 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Mar21105946@amber.umsl.edu>
I have a slip connection which gets assigned an IP address on the fly
when I make contact with my host site. It works fine for Pop, rlogin,
and even X windowing (with co-Xist). But when I try to launch a NeXT
app remotely and display back to my machine using NXHost, I can't do
it. Here's an example...
whimsy:/Users/paul> who am i
whimsy!paul ttyp0 Mar 21 10:45 (umslts1_20.umsl.edu)
whimsy:/Users/paul> open -a /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost umslts1_20.umsl.edu
open: can't open connection to Workspace on umslts1_20.umsl.edu
Both machines are running 3.3. I've set the security options in
Preferences for public window server, and I can't think of what else
would be the problem.
This isn't critical, but it would be nice to get it working. Any
ideas?
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
=================================================================
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well
as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread.
-- Anatole France
=================================================================
From: tg@isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for medical office software
Date: 23 Mar 1995 10:54:31 GMT
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3krk17$kk9@mordred.gatech.edu>
Greetings,
I am looking for medical billing software capable of handling electronic
claims filing (and probably the "complete" EDI implementation). I am
trying to locate something suitable for my brother-in-law's office which
is currently using Medical Manager (TM) (on 486 machines running SCO Unix).
As a long time NeXT advocate and user (using old cubes and waiting for
OpenStep on Sparc), I would like to see NEXTSTEP-based systems used in
places where I have some influence. The medical office software I am
looking for should have:
complete billing and Medicare electronic filing
ability to read Medical Manager files, if possible
extensible and usable in a networked environment (1 to 10 stations)
I remember seeing over the net some physician from Florida and/or Hawaii
developing/selling (or at least using) such systems, but cannot locate
the information. (I cannot connect to the stepwise server for some reason
to browse for information.)
If you have any information on medical billing software, please contact
me by e-mail (tg@isye.gatech.edu). Thank you very much.
govind
T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome.
ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net)
http://isye.gatech.edu/~tg/index.html
From: mccollam@Arizona.EDU (Donald E McCollam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Swapfile question
Date: 23 Mar 1995 15:08:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3ks2t3$8s8@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hi.
I have a dual boot system. I have 3 drives: NS is on a 1G drive.
DOS/Windows is on another 1G drive. The third drive - the boot drive - is a
550 MB drive partitioned 50/50 NS/DOS. I'd like to put the swapfile on
the third drive. Is that possible? What happens if the 550 "dies"? Will
it still be possible to boot NS or will the boot die? (I suppose I could
boot into single user mode and redirect the swapfile placement.) Is it
possible to tell NS to use two drives for swaping - just use one drive before
using another if it's available?
[Another somewhat related question: it seems that if DOS/Windows detects
ANY non-DOS partitions on a system; Windows will not allow creating a
permanent swapfile - even on a purely DOS-formatted drive. Anyone with a
dual-boot system encounter this? Do you have a work around? BTW. All my
disks are SCSI.]
Advice apprecitated.
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: lsof does not print on HPPA
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.212720.2013@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 21:27:20 GMT
I just get the latest CERT lsof_3.13 from the archives.
It compiles fat (m68k and hppa).
It does work on m68k (NS 3.3) and print nothing on hppa (NS 3.2).
Any clues?
Quote from lsof 3.13 README
> NeXTSTEP 2.1, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2
> ==============================
>
> Virtual memory header files that allow lsof to display text
> references were derived from the contents of /usr/include/vm
> of NeXTSTEP 2.0. NeXT did not ship the virtual memory header
> files with NeXTSTEP 3.1 or 3.2.
>
> The NeXTSTEP revision of lsof 3 has been tested on NeXT
> hardware and PC's.
>
> Stuart Staniford-Chen <stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu> reports that
> lsof 3 builds and works under NeXTSTEP 3.0.
>
> Andreas Stolcke <stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU> reports that lsof
> 3.09 builds and works under NeXTSTEP 2.1, if
> ``-DKERNEL_FEATURES'' is added to the compiler flags in the
> Makefile.
>
BTW why does NeXT stops shipping the virtual memory header
/usr/include/vm
Thanks
Fabien
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Fabien Roy Consultant
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Remote display of X clients and PPP
Date: 24 Mar 1995 16:28:27 -0600
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3kvh2b$j53@mp.cs.niu.edu>
I'm running 3.3/3.2 with PPP2.2 connecting to another NeXT and
at other times to a SPARC 2, via a PPP provider. When I attempt
to remotely display the client by using the IP address assigned my
remote machine by the PPP provider, with a ":0" attached, X can't seem
to access the remote window. I'm not so surprised but do not know
enough to fix this, apparently.
Also interested in NXHosting through PPP. One suggestion found
amongst the PPP software didn't work out. I believe the author said
things were different for 3.3 (maybe 3.2 as well).
Thanks.
-James Phelps, Director
Computer Music Studios
School of Music
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
preferred: jphelps@nicemusic2.music.niu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: best way to build a big swapfile?
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.193344.853@titan.sfasu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 24 Mar 95 19:33:44 CST
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950322162142.3578B-100000@lipschitz> <3kqn6c$ob@tssslab.totsyssoft.com>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
In article <3kqn6c$ob@tssslab.totsyssoft.com>,
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> wrote:
>In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950322162142.3578B-100000@lipschitz> writes:
>}~ Before I start loading files on my new disk, I thought I would set
>}~ up a large swap-file so it wouldn't be fragmented. At first, the
>}~ swap-file was 5.4Mb. Changing the low water mark in /private/vm/
>}~ swaptab had no effect after reboot (I think nothing happened because
>}~ 5.4Mb was smaller than my low water setting.)
>
> Right, reboot (mach_swapon) will SHRINK a swapfile to its
>lowat, but won't increase it to lowat.
>
>}~ Is there a graceful way to make a 64Mb swap-file?
>}~
>}~ Should I even be concerned about a fragmented swap-file?
>
>Sure.
>
> mkfile(8) creates one or more files that are suitable for use
> as NFS-mounted swap areas. The sticky bit is set, and the
> file is padded with zeroes by default. The default size
> unit is bytes, but the following suffixes may be used to
> multiply by the given factor: b (512), k (1000), and m
> (1048576).
>
Hmmm, shouldn't mkfile(8) showup in a "man -k swap" ?
From: hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: need HUGE cursors to help nearly-blind student
Date: 24 Mar 1995 16:47:02 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <3kut26$mg5@ns2.ubs.com>
References: <3ksgb6$6eq@ns2.ubs.com> <3ksjt6$nf4@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU wrote:
If there's something simple I can fix for you to help with the
>'slightly awkward' part, please let me know. I've had feedback from
>other folks using it for this (not its original) purpose but some
basic
>design issues keep me from doing much improvement in this area. One
of
>the wins I see in NEXTSTEP Intel is the ability to get a large 21"
>display but run in 480 x 640 to get magnification sans software
hacks.
I am VERY SORRY to have made it sound like a design flaw in Magnify
that causes the awkwardness. What I meant to say was that getting
used to moving a cursor on one part of the screen, while looking in
another place, takes getting used to. Further, On those occasions
where you don't need to look through Magnify, but don't disable the
tracking (for whatever reason), there is the distraction of seeing
other parts of the screen flying around. Again, this just takes
getting used to, it is NOT a problem with the app, which has really
helped the one user of it which we have.
Thanks!
>- Christopher
---
Hadar Pedhazur
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
uunet!ubs!hadar or ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: BIG Problems with SLIP
Message-ID: <D5z0K1.2w4@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 00:40:49 GMT
Hello there,
I have a very big problem, stealing my time for now 4 weeks
and I still have no answer to my questions.
I do have a little network at home with 2 Macs and 2 nextcubes
running as a Non-NeXT-Network. from a NeXTcube with the IP-Number
192.42.172.1, I have installed Louis A. Mamakos SLIP-package to have
access to the internet to use ftp, telnet, OMNIWeb and all this nice
stuff. The IP-Number for the SLIP-remote is 193.141.69.1. my SLIP
adress is 193.141.69.243.
If I PING to any machine outside my net, or using telnet or ftp
with the IP-Number of the box, I wanna contact to, it works without
any problems. NSLOOKUP, traceroute an netstat -r ends with a
very long timeout and doesn t give me the result, I normally
would expect. As the docs tell me to select not to
"Bind to network NetInfo server" but "Use local domain only" with
a checkmark in "Readable only by local net", I am not able
to talk to any machine outside my net using names.
Before starting /usr/dialupip/config/rc.slip, nslookup tells me,
that the nameserver is not respondig, netstat -r works correct
until the time I install the slip-configuration. If I then
start nslookup, the modem starts and makes a connection to my
Internet-Provider, but it doesn t goe ahead with the work.
I tested several configurations of /etc/hostconfig and /etc/resolf.con,
but I am not able to fix the problem.
It would be nice, if some of guys could help me.
this is my hostconfig:
HOSTNAME=muaddib
INETADDR=192.42.172.1
ROUTER=-NO-
IPNETMASK=255.255.255.240
IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
NETMASTER=-NO-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-AUTOMATIC-
and this the config.slip-file
# SLIPxDEFAULT
# default route? Should be set to YES or NO
# ------------------------------ slip0
SLIP0LOCAL=193.141.69.243
SLIP0REMOTE=193.141.69.1
SLIP0NETMASK=255.255.255.0
#SLIP0CONFIG=SLIP
SLIP0CONFIG=CSLIP
SLIP0DEFAULT=YES
resolv.conf
domain m.isar.de
nameserver 193.141.69.1
Nice Greetings from Munich
mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel | Email: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail, MIME, ASCII)
KARSTADT AG Muenchen | Tel: +49-89-652818
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to use NXHost over dynamic slip?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 13:59:08 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Mar25075908@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <3knsd1$d08@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <3kqnpd$oj@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
In-reply-to: Bruce Gingery's message of 23 Mar 1995 02:52:29 GMT
Thanks to all who took the time to respond. Unfortunately, I still
remain unable to use NS apps remotely. I must have some other oddity
in my configuration.
Thanks anyway.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
=================================================================
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well
as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread.
-- Anatole France
=================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM of the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-archive peanuts
Message-ID: <1995Mar25.161042.2153@charon.muc.de>
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert)
Organization: None
References: <3krv25$mse@caladan.restena.lu>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 16:10:42 GMT
"M.T. Carrasco Benitez" <m.carrasco-benitez@mhsg.cec.be> writes
> I would like how to order the CD-ROMs.
> Any CD-ROM with Web stuff ?
> Regards
Mail to pad@informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
Cheers,
--
Peter Eybert, pjoe@charon.muc.de
--
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Computer Modern Font (SUMMARY)
Date: 24 Mar 1995 17:52:15 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kv0sf$ufc@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Recently I posted regarding how to use the PD CMR fonts inside a NS
application such as OpenWrite. With the help and knowledge of several
people, I managed to get this to work satisfactorily.
As a recap, I am an avid LaTeX user but am trying to switch to
OpenWrite. I wanted to get copies of the Computer Modern font face
that would work with the standard NeXT Apps. There are two approches.
Commercial:
**************************************************************************
Y&Y Inc, Tuttle's Livery, 45 Walden St. Concord MA 01742 USA
(508) 371-3286 (voice) (508) 371-2004 (fax)
sales-help@YandY.com or 71172,524 on CompuServe
We are also on World Wide Web: http://www.YandY.com
You can see sample typeset material there using our fonts.
You can also link to Norm Walsh's InterNet Font Archive for thumbnail
sketches
**************************************************************************
I did not purchase their fonts. Instead, I grabbed the PD font from:
ftp site: pip.shsu.edu
location: /tex-archive/fonts/postscript/cm
Thanks to: Francois Magnan <magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca>
Now... installing is easy with a little knowledge. First, get the
fontinstaller located at:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/util/installfont.tar.Z
This included a program (called unadobe) that will convert a .pfb to
the needed format.
Then, in a directory, run unadobe on cmr10.pfb to get cmr10. Also
copy over the file cmr10.afm. The installfont package will work
with the fonts as is, but you will run into one problem. The space
character and the NL character are not mapped to the correct
characters. You must remap them so that they will show up properly on
the screen.
To do this, you need to modify both the cmr10.afm file and the cmr10
file (this is produced with unadobe from the cmr10.pfb) . For the
space, you need to modify character 32, so look for:
C 32 ; WX 277 ; N polishlcross ; B 24 281 263 390 ;
-and replace with-
C 32 ; WX 277 ; N suppress ; B 27 280 262 392 ;
Also for the NL, you need to modify character 10:
C 10 ; WX 721 ; N Omega ; B 44 0 676 706 ;
-and replace with-
C 10 ; WX 721 ; N space ; B 0 0 0 0 ;
Then, in the cmr10 file:
Replace:
dup 10 /Omega put
-with-
dup 10 /space put
and
dup 32 /polishlcross put
-with-
dup 32 /suppress put
Once you have modified the files, install them in appropriate fonts
directory. You typically have to log out and log back in to see the
results. Further, if you use a print server, make sure you install
the fonts there also.
Special Thanks go to Dr. T. L. Marchioro II <tlm@ameslab.gov>. He
provided some screen snapshots that compared the PD fonts to the
commercial fonts. While the PD fonts are quite adequate for my use,
the Blue Sky fonts (sold by Y&Y) do appear a little nicer. Your
mileage may vary. Also many thanks to Ken Turner
<k.j.turner@cs.stir.ac.uk> for his input!
I am by no means a font expert, so if you find a better way to do this
etc, please keep us informed!
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fax and data software
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 18:52:31 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950324135231.1148AADkE.kucerarj@localhost>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Is there any software out yet that supports Teleshare on the HP 712?
Thanks,
Ryan Kucera
kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Epitome Inc. What Gives??
Date: 24 Mar 1995 19:06:20 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <3kv57c$7ed@adam.cc.sunysb.edu>
Does anybody know what the sccop is with Al Johnson and Epitome Inc.,
makers of RedMark/RedView, the document mark-up software??
We have their phone #, their fax number, and their email address. We have
serious support questions and we've tried hailing them on all frequencies.
The helmsman reports: "No response keptin".
Are they out of business, or simply cloaked?
-Richard Larson
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Computer Modern Font (SUMMARY)
Date: 25 Mar 1995 20:22:19 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l1u1r$s26@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3kv0sf$ufc@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Stephen J. Perkins writes
> To do this, you need to modify both the cmr10.afm file and the cmr10
> file (this is produced with unadobe from the cmr10.pfb) . For the
> space, you need to modify character 32, so look for:
>
> C 32 ; WX 277 ; N polishlcross ; B 24 281 263 390 ;
> -and replace with-
> C 32 ; WX 277 ; N suppress ; B 27 280 262 392 ;
>
> Also for the NL, you need to modify character 10:
>
> C 10 ; WX 721 ; N Omega ; B 44 0 676 706 ;
> -and replace with-
> C 10 ; WX 721 ; N space ; B 0 0 0 0 ;
>
>
> Then, in the cmr10 file:
>
> Replace:
>
> dup 10 /Omega put
> -with-
> dup 10 /space put
>
> and
>
> dup 32 /polishlcross put
> -with-
> dup 32 /suppress put
I tried this, and now 'space' produces nothing at all. (The cursor moves
ahead, but the letters of the next word continue without a gap, out of
synch with the cursor.) Could you possibly email me a copy of your working
cmr10.font, so I can diff it against my own and figure out what I am
doing wrong? NeXTmail always welcome....
Chip (n.): Stylized picture |==================================================
of a logic diagram drawn on | Joshua W Burton 401/435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
refined sand. See: glitch. |==================================================
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Computer Modern Font (SUMMARY)
Date: 25 Mar 1995 15:49:50 -0700
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3l26me$8gc@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
References: <3kv0sf$ufc@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <3l1u1r$s26@cat.cis.brown.edu>
In article <3l1u1r$s26@cat.cis.brown.edu>,
Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote:
>I tried this, and now 'space' produces nothing at all. (The cursor moves
>ahead, but the letters of the next word continue without a gap, out of
>synch with the cursor.) Could you possibly email me a copy of your working
>cmr10.font, so I can diff it against my own and figure out what I am
>doing wrong? NeXTmail always welcome....
I'd like one copy of your cmr10.font, too, because I can not get the
`space' right neither. So if it is possible, please email me one copy
of your working cmr10.font. Thanks in advance.
-Yuwen Cheng
yucheng@ame2.math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Re: How download Mac hqx files?
Message-ID: <1995Mar25.182247.1168@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
References: <3kr59e$prh@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 18:22:47 GMT
In article <3kr59e$prh@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
writes:
> In article <3kprub$963@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
Anathea Brooks) writes:
[munch]
> >I'm on a Nextstation ftp'ing to a Mac site. When
> >I download Mac .hqx files files, I tried 2 things:
> >
> >1. Copying file to Mac disk (using NS 3.1) and trying
> >to unbinhex and decompress it
> >2. Converting hqx file to Mac text file with ConvertTEXT.app
> >and then copying it to Mac disk and then trying to convert and
> >open it.
> >
> >On teh mac, however, I get corrupted or files I cannot
> >open or convert.
[munch]
> There are two programs on the Mac to unbinhex them.
>
> a) Binhex 4.0 available at sumex.aim or whatever
>
> b) Stuffit Deluxe 2.0 under Expert menu
> Stuffit Deluxe 3.0 does -not- have binhex
[munch]
Some added thoughts. Some other applications on the Mac have binhexing
ability. For instance, Compactor has this, as does the freeware Tickle-4.0.
Running the apps through Convert TEXT is probably not a great thing to do (I
can't remember off the top of my head of the open quote (`) character is in
binhex files, but if so, some Convert TEXT settings may convert it and
thereby munge the file.
One thing I've found is that some binhex applications demand carriage
returns at the end of each line in the binhex file. If they aren't there,
you get bad CRC errors. When I ftp files like this, I find it best to do so
in *binary* mode (even though binhex files are just 7 bit ascii text) and
then move this file, unaltered (drag and drop or another binary ftp move),
to a mac environment. (otherwise, you can ftp them as text files, and then
use something like tr (on unix) or Tickle-4.0 (on the mac) to convert the
unix line feed characters to mac carriage returns).
Of course, this might not be your problem at all. =) But, it's the one that
'bites' me most often ('cause I rely mainly on BinHex 4.0 (it's free, small,
and simple))
As another rule of thumb, you can 'eyeball' binhex files to see if they look
badly corrupted. Viewed in fixed-width type (e.g. courier) each line has
the same width (except the last), the first character should be a colon, and
so should the last one.
Hope some of this helps.
david john burrowes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!fdn.fr!gamb.fdn.org!free!news
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: OpenSource: Flourishing in NEXTSTEP market
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.160819.1052@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3kssjf$iit@potogold.rmii.com> <3kte7s$p54@digdug.pencom.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 16:08:19 GMT
ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada) wrote:
>Garrett L. Rice writes
>> We are not only still around, we are flourishing in the NS market.
We
>are
>> about to release Sparc5 and Sparc20 compatible OpenStations that
will be
>> preinstalled with NEXTSTEP, and guaranteed and supported by our
NEXTSTEP
>> knowledgeable staff.
>I tried a SPARCstation 5 and I fell in love with the machine. Great
>sound, incredibly fast video, great overall performance, great
quality.
>The system was multiheaded. One graphics card was running 24-bit
color
>and the other one was running 8-bit color. Video was the fastest it
can
>get I guess.
>Has anybody tried the SPARC Voyager? What is the resolution? Is it
>faster, slower or about the same?
>--
> |||
> (0 0)
>+--------------------------oOO----(_)----oOO------------------------+
>| Ricardo J. Parada 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy #300 |
>| Software Engineer Austin, Texas 78759 |
>| Email: ricardo@pencom.com Phone: 512-343-6666 |
I need the Byte BenchMark result on SPARC.
Could you please post/mail it.
Cheers
Fabien
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted)
Fabien Roy Consultant
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing .rtfd files?
Date: 26 Mar 1995 09:36:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3l3cj3$e2m@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <3kt4dr$ts7@synergy.net>
In article <3kt4dr$ts7@synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl
Longsine) writes:
> Robert Smith (object@crl.com) wrote:
> : I don't have a color next printer and I need to print out some .rtfd
> : files...does anyone know how to somehow convert these to be printed on
> : DOS HP printers? Any suggestions on taking these files to Kinko's?
Can
> : these files be converted to postscript files?
>
> In Edit.app, once the file has been opened, click on "Print..." in the
> menu. The print panel will come up. (This will work in any
Any way to print a .rtf or .rtfd file on a command line?
Suppose I got some of these files and am working on a dumb terminal.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to use NXHost over dynamic slip?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:44:03 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950322193924.3639A-100000-100000@avocado>
References: <3knmlr$cmr@news.acns.nwu.edu> <3knsd1$d08@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3knsd1$d08@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Hi, all,
I tool Steve's advice and executed the nmserver reinitialization
apres establishing PPP and telnet'd over to our servers and tried:
/LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb -NXHost dialin-89
and /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb -NXHost dialin-89.wustl.edu
No luck.
This was the error I got back:
DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host dialin-89
What's this mean? Is this a confirmation that my machine doesn't
recognize the dynamically assigned symbolic name (dialin-89.wustl.edu)
and therefore NXHost isn't going to work?
Both machines (mine-ppp & remote) are NeXTstation turbos running
3.2.
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
On 22 Mar 1995, Stephen J. Perkins wrote:
> In article jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
> (Jerry Weiss) writes:
> > I think Micheal is on the right track. The Dynamic Slip line has
> > an IP address and in the above case a Hostname (umslts1_20.umsl.edu)
> > but the problem lies with the machine where the window server runs.
> > It understands what it's IP address is, but it doesn't recognize
> > the dynamic hostname as being itself. It probably has the hostname
> > built from /etc/hostconfig and /etc/resolv.conf, and perhaps
> > something in Netinfo. Neither is likely to be the dynamic hostname.
>
> A long time ago it was posted that:
> ===============================================================
> # Let the nmserver know the fruits of our network configuration
> # endeavor. This allows NXHost connections.
>
> pid=`ps cax | egrep nmserver | awk '{print $1;}'`
> if [ -n "$pid" ]; then
> echo "Reinitializing nmserver's network portion" > /dev/console
> kill -USR2 $pid
> fi
> =================================================================
> would do the trick. Good luck!
> - Steve
> P.S. Credit goes to Glenn Brown for this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney)
Subject: Video adapters
Message-ID: <rfenney-260395134633@rfenney.slip.netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: FenTek
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 21:44:59 GMT
I am looking at upgrading my current development system. My question: has
anyone used the ATI MACH64 or the DIAMON STEALTH 64 (VL versions)? Any help
would be greatly appreciated!
Robert
P.S. How is NeXTIME?
From: root@charles.panix.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Services - OmniImageFilter
Date: 27 Mar 1995 04:06:38 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3l5dke$65g@news.panix.com>
I have Omniweb 1.0 and OmniImageFilter (the latest I think) and Omniweb
works fine. What I'm wondering is why I can't convert other images in
other programs automatically. I want to use Gopher and when I click on an
image and load it it comes up as garble. I think I put OmniImageFilter in
all the right places, but maybe not. Shouldn't it work automatically?
I have the filter in NextLibrary/Services and LocalLibrary/Services and
anywhere else where it says services...
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Charles.
(NextMail is happily accepted)
From: ed@titan.internetone.com (Ed DeBolt Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Opening Illustrator epsf files without Illustrator?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 04:10:40 GMT
Organization: Internet One, Inc.
Message-ID: <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM>
Keywords: epsf illustrator
Is there a program or utility to open Illustrator epsf files or convert
them into eps files the NeXT can handle?
The rub is that I don't have Illustrator. Do they even sell AI for intel?
Thanks for any help
---------------------------------------------------------
Ed DeBolt, Jr Internet Engineer
303-444-1993 NeXT Mail/MIME
ed@InternetOne.COM
http://www.InternetOne.COM/
http://www.InternetOne.COM/ED
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing .rtfd files?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 03:58:41 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l5d5h$ohu@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3l3cj3$e2m@news.service.uci.edu>
Feng Liu writes
> In article <3kt4dr$ts7@synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl
> Longsine) writes:
> > Robert Smith (object@crl.com) wrote:
> > : I don't have a color next printer and I need to print out some .rtfd
> > : files...does anyone know how to somehow convert these to be printed
on
> > : DOS HP printers? Any suggestions on taking these files to Kinko's?
> Can
> > : these files be converted to postscript files?
> >
> > In Edit.app, once the file has been opened, click on "Print..." in the
> > menu. The print panel will come up. (This will work in any
>
> Any way to print a .rtf or .rtfd file on a command line?
> Suppose I got some of these files and am working on a dumb terminal.
>
easy enough, Edit.app supports the -p option to open.
So
open -p foo.rtf
will print the RTF file foo. I just tried this with an RTF doc and it
came out fine. Not sure about .rtfd, but I'd guess it will be okay.
Now if only the guys at Omni &/or Lighthouse would support the -p option
to OmniWeb, as I've asked them to about 10 times......
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 27 Mar 1995 05:15:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3l5hkr$mnt@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
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news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: riddler@netcom.com (Andy Riedel)
Subject: OmniWeb Pictures?
Message-ID: <riddlerD637nr.KBL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 07:04:39 GMT
Sender: riddler@netcom10.netcom.com
How do I get OmniWeb to display non-Next (.tiff, .rtf, etc.) pictures
shilw browsing? All I get is the standard image icon with a slashed
circle on top of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
riddler@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: ircii 2.8 client for NS (b or w)
Message-ID: <D62AvK.t0@ex-nihilo.com>
Sender: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: ex nihilo, inc.
References: <CEDMAN.95Mar21121616@freedom.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 19:16:32 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.95Mar21121616@freedom.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
writes:
> Actually yes. I did that only a few days ago. It turns out that the
> main problem is that the auto-configuration script just completely
> screws up the NeXT configuration for the same reason such scripts do
> for many programs (essentially POSIX features), but worse. Tweaking
> config.status and a few minor changes to the include files and it
> compiles without warning (and without using posix libraries).
Would you be kind enough to submit the modified package to a NeXT FTP site so that the
rest of us could compile it too?
Thanks.
---
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mreubold@tilife.ch
Subject: Posting Test
Message-ID: <D63Kr7.DM@tilife.ch>
Sender: mreubold@tilife.ch (Martin Reubold)
Organization: Ticino Life, Life Insurances Company, Breganzona, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:47:30 GMT
Sorry, but it's only a posting test !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mreubold@tilife.ch
Subject: Post testing
Message-ID: <D63K5A.BC@localhost.com>
Sender: mreubold@localhost.com (Martin Reubold)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:34:21 GMT
Post testin
From: frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Enhanced IDE when?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 17:06:39 GMT
Organization: Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit"at Bonn, Institut
Message-ID: <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Hi,
as I am planning on buying an Intel system, I'd really like to know the
state of support for enhanced IDE. In the NextAnswers 1Q95 was targetted,
but I haven't heard anything else about the release of a new driver. I'm
asking this because enhanced IDE drives are much cheaper than SCSI drives,
and I might be able to get a SCSI host adaptor for some time just to install
NextStep (I'd rather invest the money in RAM than in a SCSI host adaptor).
So, any news out there concerning the release of a new driver?
Thanks, Joerg.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Step Edu and CD-ROM FUSSING
Date: 25 Mar 1995 17:43:08 GMT
Organization: Synergy Communication Inc.
Message-ID: <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net>
References: <3kpikq$l6a@netnet2.netnet.net>
Brian S Mogged (kurst@netnet.net) wrote:
: Now here come the other killer question. Have NeXTStep finnaly
: started to support "standard" cdrom drives. I mean I have a cd-rom under
: my computer works great under linux.... Does it still have to be
: "unstandard" scsi or the standard style of cdrom's for pc can be used
: for installing nextstep.......
Unfortunately, no. This pains me, also, despite your dubious use of
the word "standard." (At least I can take a 2Gig SCSI drive to
a RISC machine and know that it will work.) I'd like to see NeXT
support EIDE CD-ROM drives, and NEC's proprietary interface, and
Toshiba's proprietary interface, and . . . [pick driver maker]'s
proprietary CD-ROM interface, and on down to the lowliest SCSI
wannabe interface on the crappiest of sound cards.
Well, at least EIDE.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS exporting CDROM files ?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 22:01:35 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Mar27.135645@EE.Stanford.EDU>
I have a 040 NeXT cube with CDROM and a PC running Linux.
I want to put the InfoMagic's CDROM in the CDROM drive attached
to the NeXT and want to access it from the PC via NFS.
I can see all the files on the hard disk wihtout any problem
(if I remember correctly, I could see the NEXTSTEP CDROM
also). But I cannont access the Linux CDROMs. I tried
this with DOS CDROMs but no avail. Is there any way to
NFS export these CDROMs from NeXT ?
Thanks.
--- Sang Ju Park
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!sonia!scp
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opening Illustrator epsf files without Illustrator?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 16:01:16 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3l6ngc$fol@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM>
Keywords: epsf illustrator
In article <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM> ed@InternetOne.COM writes:
>
>Is there a program or utility to open Illustrator epsf files or convert
>them into eps files the NeXT can handle?
>
>The rub is that I don't have Illustrator. Do they even sell AI for intel?
Add the extension .eps or .ps and open them
with any previewer.
Charlie Dvorak
>
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From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: rtfd 2 html
Message-ID: <1995Mar27.143440.1435@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <robertzngnz8ypaeqt@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 14:34:40 GMT
Hello
I am interested to do a rtfd to html convertor
but I can't be connected in ftp and web at this time
if you have some Html encoding description
it would be very kind of you to email it to me
Thanks by advance
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
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France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Faxing with US Robotics
Date: 28 Mar 1995 00:54:34 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3l7moa$rjo@news.panix.com>
Is there any software that supports US Robotics Sportster 28.8 modems for
faxing (either freeware or shareware). Can I use NXFAX? If so, how do I
configure it?
Thanks.
Charles.
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Remote display of X clients and PPP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Mar 1995 01:09:42 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3l7nkm$cj4@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3kvh2b$j53@mp.cs.niu.edu>
James Phelps (u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu) wrote:
: I'm running 3.3/3.2 with PPP2.2 connecting to another NeXT and
: at other times to a SPARC 2, via a PPP provider. When I attempt
: to remotely display the client by using the IP address assigned my
: remote machine by the PPP provider, with a ":0" attached, X can't seem
: to access the remote window. I'm not so surprised but do not know
: enough to fix this, apparently.
I've done this. Make sure you do an "xhosts +" on your NS side to disable
access checking. BTW, X and PPP with V.34 is usable, though ISDN would be
sweet.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Opening Illustrator epsf files without Illustrator?
Message-ID: <1995Mar27.181451.245@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 18:14:51 GMT
In article <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM> ed@titan.internetone.com (Ed
DeBolt Jr) writes:
>
> Is there a program or utility to open Illustrator epsf files or convert
> them into eps files the NeXT can handle?
>
> The rub is that I don't have Illustrator. Do they even sell AI for
intel?
>
> Thanks for any help
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Ed DeBolt, Jr Internet Engineer
> 303-444-1993 NeXT Mail/MIME
> ed@InternetOne.COM
> http://www.InternetOne.COM/
> http://www.InternetOne.COM/ED
Just rename them from .ai to .eps
Fabien
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From: dover@pinot.callamer.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Looking for UUCP software
Date: 27 Mar 1995 14:10:25 -0800
Organization: Call America, San Luis Obispo CA USA Earth Sol
Sender: dover@callamer.com
Message-ID: <3l7d4h$o2s@pinot.callamer.com>
I'm looking for software that will simplify the set-up and management of
a UUCP connection that runs on Intel NEXTSTEP. Any pointers would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
John A Kusters, jr.
Dover Pacific Computing, inc.
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From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Date: 27 Mar 1995 18:40:01 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Sender: srosie@umich.edu
Message-ID: <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>
In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
[chomp]
>There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
>The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
>to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
>if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
>it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
>
Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
purchased 3.3?
enquiring (and confused) minds want to know...
thanks,
rosie
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From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Step Edu and CD-ROM FUSSING
Date: 27 Mar 1995 19:06:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3l72bu$s9e@news.next.com>
References: <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net>
In article <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl
Longsine) writes:
> Unfortunately, no. This pains me, also, despite your dubious use of
> the word "standard." (At least I can take a 2Gig SCSI drive to
> a RISC machine and know that it will work.) I'd like to see NeXT
> support EIDE CD-ROM drives, and NEC's proprietary interface, and
> Toshiba's proprietary interface, and . . . [pick driver maker]'s
> proprietary CD-ROM interface, and on down to the lowliest SCSI
> wannabe interface on the crappiest of sound cards.
>
> Well, at least EIDE.
>
From NeXTanswers document 1839: EIDE Driver Overview:
General Overview notes: This is a new driver for supporting IDE disks and
ATAPI CD-ROMs. It will support primary and secondary IDE controllers.
Future Planning
Future / Update Planning: Under Development
Reason for New Driver / Update: New Features
New Driver / Update Timeframe: Q2 95
Yep, it's coming. I use an early version at home, and it's working fine with
my ATAPI CD-ROM and two IDE hard drives.
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Computer, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Pictures?
Message-ID: <D644u6.104@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <riddlerD637nr.KBL@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 19:01:17 GMT
In article <riddlerD637nr.KBL@netcom.com> riddler@netcom.com (Andy Riedel)
writes:
> How do I get OmniWeb to display non-Next (.tiff, .rtf, etc.) pictures
> shilw browsing? All I get is the standard image icon with a slashed
> circle on top of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> --
> riddler@netcom.com
Get OmniImageFilter.service from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and
put in your /NextLibrary/Services-dir e.g.
Nice Greetings from Munich
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KARSTADT AG Muenchen | Tel: +49-89-652818
From: root@charles.panix.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Changing User permission...
Date: 28 Mar 1995 04:40:26 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3l83vq$7ed@news.panix.com>
This may sound simple to some, but I would like to change my User
(clannes) to me part of group 'wheel' so that I can su to root from
the terminal. Currently, it is in the group other.
How do I do this safely? I am the only user on my computer
(standalone) with no ethernet. I just want to have permissions to
shut down certain operations and write to most files.
Thanks.
Please email if possible.
Charles.
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From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Where can I reach Blake Hughes (hughes@csvax.cs.ukans.edu)?
Date: 28 Mar 95 15:56:03 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995Mar28.155603@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
Hi NeXTland,
Subject says it all, I am looking for (the new network address of) Blake
Hughes who's old network address at University of Kansas (hughes@csvax.
cs.ukans.edu) is bouncing. He is the author of globe.tar to be found at
cs.orst.edu.
Willem
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From: premise@pluto.eecs.umich.edu (Sean Willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Date: 28 Mar 1995 00:43:42 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3l7m3u$8cg@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> srosie@umich.edu
(Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
> Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
> >Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
> [chomp]
> >There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
> >The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
> >to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
> >if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
> >it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
> >
> Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
> when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
> academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
> purchased 3.3?
>
> enquiring (and confused) minds want to know...
>
> thanks,
> rosie
>
>
I believe he is wrong, according to NeXT there is academic pricing now but
they cannot say if the pricing of 4.0 will go up or not. Hope this helps.
Sean Willson
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From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cursor tracking in SoftPC
Date: 28 Mar 1995 19:15:32 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3l9n8k$r6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
I use SoftPC to run Netscape occasionally, as it supports more HTML than
OmniWeb at this point. Just today I have started getting tracking
problems, where the cursor is leaving tracks/images all over the SoftPC
window. Exiting SoftPC and restarting doesn't help; rebooting the
machine worked for only a few minutes.
Anybody seen anything similar ?? Any ideas or suggestions ??
Thanks,
MTN
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From: torben@news.Hawaii.Edu (Torben Noerup Nielsen)
Subject: Antenna Software
Message-ID: <D65yE4.K0@news.hawaii.edu>
Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:37:16 GMT
I just installed NeXTstep 3.3 on an ALR computer. It is a standard 586 based PCI system
and everything went well through the installation.
However, I can't seem to run it for hardly any time at all before it locks up. Within
no more than an hour after I boot it up, it locks up on me. I loose control of the
keyboard and the mouse; everything is frozen. Is this a known problem?
Also, I am using an Intel EtherExpress Pro LAN adapter and that is supposedly supported.
Yet NeXTstep claims it cannot find it! Yes, I checked the configuration and tested this
under DOS and it worked!
Has anyone seen this before? If so, what is the answer to the problem?
Thanks, Torben
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From: gtf@math.rochester.edu (Geoffrey T. Falk)
Subject: OmniWeb sounds? [WAS Re: OmniWeb Pictures?]
Message-ID: <1995Mar28.153149.29490@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center
References: <D644u6.104@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:31:49 GMT
In article <D644u6.104@muaddib.m.isar.de> mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael
Maximilian Goedel) writes:
> In article <riddlerD637nr.KBL@netcom.com> riddler@netcom.com (Andy Riedel)
> writes:
> > How do I get OmniWeb to display non-Next (.tiff, .rtf, etc.) pictures
> > shilw browsing? All I get is the standard image icon with a slashed
> > circle on top of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Get OmniImageFilter.service from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and
> put in your /NextLibrary/Services-dir e.g.
Fine, this works wonderfully!
Now, what about sound files? The NeXT can't play .au or .wav files. Is there
a similar service that will convert these automatically to .snd files?
g.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: wuffo questions #1
Message-ID: <D64u5p.rG@ex-nihilo.com>
Sender: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: ex nihilo, inc.
References: <lwallyci-2203952307000001@stemmons48.onramp.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 04:08:13 GMT
In article <lwallyci-2203952307000001@stemmons48.onramp.net> lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie
Connally) writes:
> thanks for reading this. They are easy questions I expect to a non-wuffo:
What's a non-wuffo (excuse my lingo-ignorance)?
> Do all versions of NS work on my 030 cube: 2.x or 3.0, 3.1, 3.2?
Yes.
> On an 040 cube?
Yes.
> Does the Developer pkg include User?
Only NS 3.0 included both User and Dev on 1 CD. Begining with NS 3.1 they were separated
as 2 packages.
> Is there any problem booting from an external CD?
Not that I know.
> Since my HD is not formatted, will the OD or CD disk format it (the HD)
> first, before it installs the sys.
Yes, it should if you do a new installation and not an upgrade.
> Is a 330MB enough if the sys takes up 200MB?! Should I get another?
You will probably want to get a larger drive if you plan on having both User and
Developer plus your own files and apps. Besides, the 330MB drive you have is not that
fast anymore. You can get much bigger and faster drives pretty relatively cheap these
days.
> Why was I told to get a REAL NeXT drive (big, 5 1/4, Maxtor, heavy). when
> I read that lots of HDs get used as externals? Is is sys version
> dependant?
Because you'll find the one you have small after a while.
> Should I leave the swap disc in, and use the big drives as externals?
I would.
> Sorry for asking so many!
It's OK.
> Thanks again if you take the time to respond!
You are welcome.
> Les Connally
> lwallyci@onramp.net
I see you fixed the typo in your email address ;)
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From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE when?
Message-ID: <D656sM.21F@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
References: <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 08:41:10 GMT
In article <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm asking this because enhanced IDE drives are much cheaper than SCSI
drives,
> and I might be able to get a SCSI host adaptor for some time just to install
> NextStep (I'd rather invest the money in RAM than in a SCSI host adaptor).
Beware. IDE drives are cheaper than SCSI drives because they are
generally much lower quality/speed. With IDE you often get only a
quote for the interface speed as "maximum drive speed" or some
obscure PC benchmark result, while with SCSI you get the real data
rate also, along with track-to-track and average seek times, cache
speeds and behaviour, bad block lists etc.
The reason for this is that in the IDE(PC) marketplace people are
usually less computer-literate than in the SCSI(Workstation/Server/High-end
PC) market and can be sold junk to more easily. Thus the lower quality
drives are equipped with IDE and the higher quality ones with SCSI.
Both often share only the name.
Volker
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From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: NeXT Step Edu and CD-ROM FUSSING
Message-ID: <D6576s.23z@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
References: <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 08:49:40 GMT
In article <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl
Longsine) writes:
> Brian S Mogged (kurst@netnet.net) wrote:
> : Now here come the other killer question. Have NeXTStep finnaly
> : started to support "standard" cdrom drives. I mean I have a cd-rom under
> : my computer works great under linux.... Does it still have to be
> : "unstandard" scsi or the standard style of cdrom's for pc can be used
> : for installing nextstep.......
>
> Unfortunately, no. This pains me, also, despite your dubious use of
> the word "standard." (At least I can take a 2Gig SCSI drive to
> a RISC machine and know that it will work.) I'd like to see NeXT
> support EIDE CD-ROM drives, and NEC's proprietary interface, and
> Toshiba's proprietary interface, and . . . [pick driver maker]'s
> proprietary CD-ROM interface, and on down to the lowliest SCSI
> wannabe interface on the crappiest of sound cards.
This is from NeXTanswers:
--------------------------
System Driver Overview
Driver: EIDE
Current Availability: Future
Driver Location (if not on CDROM): NeXTanswer #1838
Driver Overview: NeXTanswer #1839
Last Update: March 21 1995
Driver Name / Installer .pkg:
Driver Type: System
Driver Scope: Generic-System
Component Supported:
Component Manufacturer:
PC Bus / Interface Supported by Driver*: ISA, PCI
General Overview notes: This is a new driver for supporting IDE disks and ATAPI
CD-ROMs. It will support primary and secondary IDE controllers.
Supported Products / Add-on Adapters:
Supported Products / Systems (ie integrated into PC System):
Special Features of Driver / Driver Notes:
1. The secondary IDE controller must use interrupt line 15.
2. Only ATAPI standard compliant CD-ROMs will be supported. A list will be
available later.
Known Problems
Future Planning
Future / Update Planning: Under Development
Reason for New Driver / Update: New Features
New Driver / Update Timeframe: Q2 95
-----------------------------------
Volker
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From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opening Illustrator epsf files without Illustrator?
Date: 28 Mar 1995 13:52:15 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
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In article <3l5ds0$eri@io.InternetOne.COM> ed@titan.internetone.com (Ed
DeBolt Jr) writes:
}~ >
}~ > Is there a program or utility to open Illustrator epsf files or
}~ > convert them into eps files the NeXT can handle?
}~ >
}~ > The rub is that I don't have Illustrator. Do they even sell AI for
}~ > intel?
}~ >
}~ > Thanks for any help
In article <3l6ngc$fol@saba.info.ucla.edu>, scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) responded:
}~ Add the extension .eps or .ps and open them
}~ with any previewer.
}~
}~ Charlie Dvorak
In article <1995Mar27.181451.245@free.fdn.org>, fabien@free.fdn.org
(Fabien Roy) responds:
}~
}~ Just rename them from .ai to .eps
}~
}~ Fabien
You could also install a "null filter", which essentially uses
'cat' or equivalence to Workspace to make the .ai treated like .eps,
depending upon which way it is installed.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
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Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
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From: torben@news.Hawaii.Edu (Torben Noerup Nielsen)
Subject: APM....
Message-ID: <D6673D.3wJ@news.hawaii.edu>
Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 21:45:13 GMT
In the NeXT documentation for 3.3, there is a note about APM now being supported. It
also says that you can disable this using a preference application in case your computer
does not support it. But I cannot find that particular preference entry. Does anyone know
where I might find it?
I am using an ALR Evolution and I am seing some weird problems. For example, I cannot
boot up unless I use the -v flag. It just goes right back to a complete restart of the
machine and sits there in an endless loop. Also, after a period of inactivity, the whole
computer freezes on me!
Thanks, Torben
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From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: New Book on NEXTSTEP Programming - Sample Chapter on Web
Message-ID: <1995Mar27.231558.4439@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:15:58 GMT
Go to:
http://www.mcp.com/cgi-bin/do-bookstore.cgi
Pick "Custom Searches"
Pick "Search by Title"
Enter "NEXTSTEP"
Info on Gene Backlin's "Developing NEXTSTEP Applications" appears.
Clicking on the title of the book brings up another page with a
summary, and links to the book cover, the table of contents, and a
sample chapter.
--
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From: "Benjamin S. Yu" <by24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Thinking about moving to NS
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:16:26 -0500
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0jS62_W00iV445iuNV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hello,
i thinking about buying a NS system for hobby. i wondering how much it
would cost to get the essential tools to start developing on the NS. Of
course i need a computer, but i would need the docs and books to help me
starting programming on NS. So apart from the hardware what else would
i need to get and about how much would it cost me? i would like to get
black hardware. Does anyone know how long these beauties will be
supported by NeXT? Any comments would be apprecriated. Thanks
ben
From: barb@shore.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: video driver GD6420???
Date: 29 Mar 1995 12:44:03 GMT
Organization: North Shore Access/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lbkmj$3as@shore.shore.net>
Keywords: cirrus logic GD6420
Hello,
I am running NS on a notebook computer with a built in Cirrus Logic
GD6420-based SuperVGA graphics card. Is there any special driver i could
use for this card? Anything other than the default VGA driver from NeXT??
Thanks for your help,
bye,
Barb
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From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc,comp.text,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Rich Text Format spec
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc,comp.text,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 28 Mar 1995 16:02:57 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Message-ID: <3l9bvh$qm@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3jdrsb$b8q@mis02.micron.net> <950321.213619.9H8.rnr.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Russell Schulz (russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca) wrote:
/ bdickey@micron.net (Bruce Dickey) writes:
// Does anyone have the RTF spec? Thanks.
Have a look at ftp://ftp.primate.wisc.edu/pub/RTF/
-rw-r--r-- 1 1017 other 336746 Jul 12 1994 RTF-Spec-1.3.hqx
-rw-r--r-- 1 1017 other 713490 Jul 12 1994 RTF-Spec-1.3.ps
-rw-r--r-- 1 1017 other 378095 Jul 12 1994 RTF-Spec-1.3.rtf
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GNU OpenStep Development Team, Manager of the Documentation Department
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing on NeXT from PeeCee....
Date: 29 Mar 1995 12:52:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3lbl5n$rqo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Hi All,
I have just set up a little home network
between a PC and my new home NeXTCube. I've got
all kinds of good stuff working, telnet, ftp, nfs,
but I'm struggling a little with making printing
from the (my stubborn wife's) PC to my NeXTPrinter
transparent. I've got lpr working, but I'm struggling
a little with setting up a spooler.
The spooler I've got wants a printer driver. Now,
being a bit of a novice at all of this I find
myself wondering where I can get a driver for the
nextprinter. Can I just use a generic postscript
driver? I've tried using the one that came with
windoze 3.11, but can't seem to change the resolution
to 400dpi. Not being sure that this will work, I
thought I'd check around before putting any more holes
in the wall with my head.
If anybody has any experience with this sort of thing
that they would like to share, I'd love to hear it.
Thanks much.
Cheers - Jon
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Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
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Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 12:06:55 -0500
Subject: miniscule Receiptfilter Suggestion
Suggestion for either the author(s) of receiptfilter, or the author
of Mail.app (now that Mail.app itself can do most of receiptfilter's
functions [except for not being programmable as to who to send or not
to send receipts to all the time, and logging receipts])
Most times I will send a read receipt if someone asks for one, but I
would just like to know. I'd like to see a "Notify" option.
For Mail.app, it could be something like this:
dwrite Mail ReadReceiptOption Notify
(right now the options are Never,Always,and Ask, I believe)
This would simply pop a little panel saying that a read receipt had been sent.
For receiptfilter, the .rfrc could have an option of:
1) just notifying when receipts are being sent
or
2) if the recipient is Not on the 'fail' list, then
send and notify
just a thought off the top of my head
TjL
Date: 28 Mar 1995 16:09:45 GMT
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From: randys@awinc.com (Randal N. Streilein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
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From: foster@news.unr.edu (Steve Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Stealth Video w 964 drivers ??
Date: 28 Mar 1995 16:28:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno Department of Computer Science
Message-ID: <3l9dg2$gv5@umbra.unr.edu>
Hi there,
Does anyone know whether the NS3.3 driver for Diamond Stealth 64 (S3 964)
will also drive the new Stealth 64 Video card with the S3 968 chip??
Of course I don't expect the 964 driver to deal with the video features of
the 968, I just want to know whether it can use it as a faster 964 ...
If you have tried this, please let me know.
Thanks much,
Steve Foster
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From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: Re: cursor tracking in SoftPC
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.001136.27546@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
References: <3l9n8k$r6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 00:11:36 GMT
I've had the same problem happen to me when I'm running
SoftPC...I notice it most during using MS Word or Excel...
usually after selecting something on the SoftPC menu, and then
immediately going into the Windows window...<shrug>
I'd be interested in whatever you find out about it.
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond, VA
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From: sysop@kitana.org (JL Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Thinking about moving to NS
Date: 28 Mar 1995 23:04:08 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199503290420.UAA10520@kitana.org>
You'll need to WWW over to http://www.next.com and get the NS
Hardware compatibility guide.
Luckily, I had all the HW necessary to install NS.
--
sysop@kitana.org
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From: torben@news.Hawaii.Edu (Torben Noerup Nielsen)
Subject: Problems with 3.3....
Message-ID: <D65zIw.vs@news.hawaii.edu>
Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu
Organization: University of Hawaii
References: <D65yE4.K0@news.hawaii.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 19:01:44 GMT
I just installed NeXTstep 3.3 on an ALR computer. It is a standard 586 based PCI system
and everything went well through the installation.
However, I can't seem to run it for hardly any time at all before it locks up. Within
no more than an hour after I boot it up, it locks up on me. I loose control of the
keyboard and the mouse; everything is frozen. Is this a known problem?
Also, I am using an Intel EtherExpress Pro LAN adapter and that is supposedly supported.
Yet NeXTstep claims it cannot find it! Yes, I checked the configuration and tested this
under DOS and it worked!
Has anyone seen this before? If so, what is the answer to the problem?
Thanks, Torben
From: klaus@chemlab (Dr. Klaus Kunze)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to set up HP DeskJet 1200C/PS with NeXTStation?
Date: 28 Mar 1995 18:09:10 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l9jc6$5s0@lynx.unm.edu>
Hello everybody,
The HP DeskJet 1200C/PS has a LocalTalk and a centronix port. How can I
get this postscript printer to work with my NeXT? Does anybody use this
printer to print ps-Files originating from a NeXT?
I connected via a serial cable (MiniDin 8) to the printer and tried
several jumper settings, but the printer doesn't respond at all. In the
PrintManager I've selected the HPDeskJet 1200C pdf.
Thanks for posting a possible solution (either here or by e-mail).
Klaus
KLaus Kunze // University of New Mexico // klaus@chemlab.unm.edu
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From: iscpgp@rama.ucop.edu (pat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NFS Mount from NeXT CD-ROM?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 15:53:23 GMT
Organization: Your Organization
Message-ID: <3lbvpj$9qu@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I'm trying to mount a CD in my NeXT attached CD-ROM as a NFS file system
on my PC using FTP Software's TCP/IP stack. I succeed in the mount, see
the CD files on my PC, but can't execute (PC returns "Can't load
application" or read any files even tho I've granted all kinds of
permissions on my NeXT.
Copying the same files to my NeXT's hard drive and mounting that as a
file system on mmy PC let's me execute and read the same files I couldn't
when accessing the CD directly.
All suggestions comments welcome.
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From: jhermann@pooh.msp.sc.ti.com (John Hermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: EPROM burner for NeXTs?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 15:54:41 GMT
Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments.
Message-ID: <3lbvs1$gmr@barracuda.dadd.ti.com>
Does anybody know if an EPROM programmer was ever marketed
for the NeXTstations?
Best Regards,
John Hermann
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From: hocker@samizdat (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: BIG Problems with SLIP
Message-ID: <D65z8s.48t@samizdat>
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
References: <D5z0K1.2w4@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:55:39 GMT
: Nice Greetings from Munich
: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
: --
: Michael Maximilian Goedel | Email: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail,
MIME, ASCII)
: KARSTADT AG Muenchen | Tel: +49-89-652818
To add to this post, I have a setup where I will be adding a Mac through IP
to my NextStation running SLIP-920904 (Mamakos' SLIP package) and I currently
can't get it to do demand dialing at all. I use "slipup" and "slipdown" to
get the network connected from the command line, and I've tried using SLIP-
Commander (it worked, but it's faster just to open a terminal window) from
the Workspace. This is fine on a local machine, but for a network it's not
very elegant.
If I try something like "ftp ftp.cs.orst.edu", it gives me an error of
"Network down". I can get it to dial if I telnet/ftp to the system I get
the SLIP connection from, it doesn't connect properly (I suspect because it
thinks the network is down, although it doesn't give that message) to it.
At any rate, I'm wondering what could be wrong. I'll post any files
neccesary to solve this, but in the interest of bandwidth, I'm not
posting them all right now!
Are there changes to NetInfoManager that need to be done?
Thanks!
Matt
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From: Keith@nesbbx.rain.COM (Keith Colbaugh)
Message-ID: <Keith.526x@nesbbx.rain.COM>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 13:22:19 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System
test
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Network Performance NS/FIP-3COM 3C509
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 23:00:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.230016.19440@cyantic.com>
We have just observed an interesting discrepancy between the input and
output performance on a NS/FIP box. The test is not scientific, but it is
still troubling.
We were innocently FTP'ing a 2.5Mb Postscript file from a Sun SPARCserver
1000 to the NS box and found that it transferred at the miserable rate of
100Kb/Sec. However, on the reverse operation, (put to the Sun), the
transfer rate was 500Kb/Sec.
This is a rather drastic difference between the read and write operations
on the network interface. Our comparison for the same two operations on
two other platforms are as follows.
Put to 1000E Get from 1000E
NS/FIP 486/66 Dell 520 Kb/Sec 100 Kb/Sec
NS Moto 68040/30Mhz 670 Kb/Sec 560 Kb/Sec
Sun IPC 770 Kb/Sec 780 Kb/Sec
I suppose this could be a driver issue, but I wouldn't mind getting some
comments about this in case the 3COM hardware isn't up to snuff. We would
like to have the right combination of hardware before we roll out boxes in
quantity.
Thanks
--
--
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1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: E-IDE
Date: 30 Mar 1995 12:54:47 GMT
Organization: Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit"at Bonn, Institut
Message-ID: <3le9mn$8p6@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Does NextStep 3.3 for Intel work with an Enhanced IDE controller
and Enhanced IDE harddrive? I have heard that it might work,
without the speed of E-IDE, though.
Any answers are appreciated, as I am planning to put together
an Intel system ASAP.
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 30 Mar 1995 10:44:44 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk>
Amjad Moghul (Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
So you really think SJ reads several hundred emails
of ordinary people every day? You could as well try
to mail to god@heaven.net.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
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From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: TeleFAX 14.4 modem question
Message-ID: <cjonesD6AD05.GsL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 03:43:17 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom3.netcom.com
I have a Gateway/2000 system with a (gateway) TeleFax modem.
Suggestions as to how I find the necesary driver (or find out if
one exists)?
thanks,
carl
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From: Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What External Hard drive for a NeXT Color Slab??
Date: 30 Mar 1995 01:31:27 GMT
Organization: PIXAR
Message-ID: <3ld1lf$p7o@bertie.pixar.com>
Can someone out there suggest a good compatible external hard drive
in the order of 500 meg - 1 gig for a Next Color Slab.
(Preferably something that just plugs and goes to work)
damir@pixar.com
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From: Darin Boesch <darinb@halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: I hate the NeXT mouse!!!
Date: 30 Mar 1995 02:11:58 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <3ld41e$c5s@news.halcyon.com>
I'm convinced, I'll NEVER get used to it.
I have used mouses (mice?) on many systems, but the mouse in NeXT
drives me batty because of that darned acceleration dealy. What I
mean is, it's not that the tracking is too fast or too slow, it's
the fact that after some "speed" the damn thing takes off and over
shoots the icons I'm aiming for.
This is complicated because I use a number of systems.
Anyway, my question is this: Is there any way to turn off the mouse
acceleration? (ie. just have a one-to-one movement on the screen)
I would have no problem text editing a configuration file if I knew
what to do. I would assume that I'd have to.
Am I the only one that has had problems with this?
Thanks for the help.
-Darin Boesch
darinb@halcyon.com
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From: Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk (Amjad Moghul)
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Subject: Steve Jobs on internet
Organization: Frontline Networks Ltd UK
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 00:31:58 +0000
Message-ID: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
Please email
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From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 30 Mar 1995 14:33:29 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <3leffp$ref@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> Amjad Moghul (Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> > E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
>
> So you really think SJ reads several hundred emails
> of ordinary people every day? You could as well try
> to mail to god@heaven.net.
>
>
> --
> who? // Markus Wenzel
> work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
> mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
> else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
Almost: it's actually god@heaven.uk.
From: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: next-mailing groups
Date: 31 Mar 1995 13:28:54 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3lh02m$shg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Could someone send me a list of existing NeXT mailing groups in the
universe?
Thanks in advance
--
Robert Mueller Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation, Universitaetskliniken Mainz
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
From: hoff@lache.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: I hate the NeXT mouse!!!
Date: 31 Mar 1995 14:32:06 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <3lh3p6$5ik@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
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Darin Boesch (darinb@halcyon.com) wrote:
>I'm convinced, I'll NEVER get used to it.
"me too."
[..]
>Anyway, my question is this: Is there any way to turn off the mouse
>acceleration? (ie. just have a one-to-one movement on the screen)
yes.
The easiest, and really simple solution for this problem is a beautiful
Preferences module called GKMouseScaler, by Gert Knops. It allows you to
mix the acceleration/speed behaviour exactly like you need it.
I couldn't live without it anymore.
Check the archives; if you can't find it, I can NeXTmail you a version
for 68k and Intel.
Holger
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: zhs79@svusenet.ubs.ch
Subject: 2.1GB drives for $889 / NCA peripherals (address?)
Message-ID: <1995Mar31.091307.6563@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
Sender: news@svusenet.ubs.ch
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:13:07 GMT
Hi,
A few weeks ago, Todd wrote:
> Two or three days ago in the San Jose Mercury News, NCA peripherals
> had brand new third height SCSI-II 2.1GB drives for $889. I don't
> remember the brand.
My questions:
- does anybody know the brand of tis drive and far more important
- does anybody know the address of this company (fax, e-mail)?
- can anybody recommend me a cheap 2.1GB drive, that I can use with my
NeXTstation turbo as an internal bootdisk?
Any kind of information is welcome - it's urgent.
Thanks in advance, Daniel
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From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Message-ID: <1995Mar30.231228.2672@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <tbyars-3003950822550001@192.0.0.23>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 23:12:28 GMT
Tim Byars writes
> satan@hell.edu
It's changed. Now it's like satan@ninth.circle.hell.org, though
he can be reached at lucifer@cyber.sell.com.
The IP address is 6.6.6.9.
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of
Vanguard Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or
undead is entirely coincidental.
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: .snd files conversion
Date: 1 Apr 1995 07:33:54 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3livl2$kvg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com>
In article <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com> rsilver@mtkgc.com writes:
>I'm sure I should look in the FAQ, but, I'll just ask all you nice people.
>I want to convert .snd files to Sun .au files, and other formats (.wav ??).
>
>Is there software available or some other method ??
>
There's a small utility on NeXT called the Workspace Manager.
Launch it and hilite the extension .snd - then type .au
You're finished - provided you hit RETURN.
The formats are mutually inclusive.
Charlie Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 1 Apr 1995 01:46:21 -0500
Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina
Message-ID: <dcl.796718725@mercury>
References: <D6Ay5I.IwC@isltd.insignia.com> <3lhkne$nlj@news.cerf.net>
gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes:
>> The format of NeXT employee(er!) email addresses his pretty uniform.
>> I've seen mail from this address, and been assured by NeXT that this is
>> read personally. On the other hand if the address was abused it would be
>> filtered pretty quickly.
>It's there, and it is filtered. Some of his staff read through it,
>and on occasion you can get a response from Steve. We had a habit
>for awhile of cc'ing him on our press releases. We were surprised
>to one day get a response from him on one.
A few years ago I mailed Mr. Jobs about a job at NeXT, Inc. I told him my
story, and about a week later, I got a letter from someone in the personnel
department at NeXT, Inc. Too bad Mr. Jobs himself didn't respond.
Daniel
--
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KD4CYH on 146.88 CLT, 146.64 RTP 800-890-6305 / 919-890-6305
dcl@interpath.net For account info, mail to:
http://www.interpath.net/~dcl/ info@interpath.net
From: recep@avci.oscs.montana.edu (Recep Avci)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTStep Software on CD-ROM: Is there any?
Date: 31 Mar 1995 21:21:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, Montana State University, Bozeman Montana
Message-ID: <3lhrp0$j0d@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
Does anybody know whether there is any interactive and/or
educational software that come on CD-ROM (like hundreds running on PCs)
for the NeXTStep on NeXTStation Color? Or, Did I paid $11,000 to
get a full-fledged NeXTStation Color system only to fall victim to
Steve Job's great scheme of things? This is a subset of a
desperate attempt to find a reasonably priced software that
would run on my NeXTStation Color including X-Windows, Mosaic etc.
Anybody that can help I would appreciate. Thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: NEW SURVEY + RESULT prev: NS 3.3 stability/serial ports/Taylor UUCP (Long)
Message-ID: <D69pBo.63E@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 19:11:48 GMT
A couple of months ago, I started a survey trying to find out if NS 3.3 was
stable or not wrt the serial driver.
After the initial flood of answers I mailed many people back, trying to get
specifics about their setup, trying to find the characteristics about what made
machines prone to the problem. I haven't had any succes in really finding it,
but I have some clues. I'll add the survey results to the end of this message.
The clues are:
Most people do not experience problems (very large majority)
It happens to 25MHz 040 machines
They run Taylor UUCP directly on the serial port (not over tcp/ip)
They are older machines maybe (system type 0x2, board revision 0x0)
So I am now doing a second more narrow survey:
The new survey is only for people running NS 3.3 on black hardware, or people
who have run NS 3.3 on black hardware.
1. I would like all people who DID have problems with their machine (freezes
and panics) and who suspect their serial drivers to be the culprit to mail me.
What I want to know from them is:
What software do you use on your serial port?
2. I would like all people who use Taylor UUCP on black hardware at high speeds
(>=19k2) directly to the serial port to mail me. My qeustions:
Are you experiencing/have you experienced panics/freezes?
BOTH CATEGORIES: I need to have the output of the 'hostinfo' command on the
system that you are reporting about. And give me the machine type (i.e. 25MHz
040 mono slab, 33MHz 040 color slab, etc)
I want to make a list of system types, board revisions and yes/no problems that
could bring us further in this issue.
People who participated in the previous survey and are friendly asked to
resubnit if they fall in one or both categories above. Also: this tine I will
not be mailing everyone, that takes too much of my time. So incomplete entries
are not taken into account.
Thanks in advance,
---
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Coordinator NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups International
Here are the results of the previous query.
==============================================================
Problems galore. Solved by setting ResetDelay from NXFax to 10secs. Uses
ordinary UUCP now.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 40.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 85 tasks, 129 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 4.41, Mach factor: 0.18
==============================================================
Your system does a lot of stuff, but does it also use the serial driver much?
Yes. All mail and news come via (the NeXT-supplied version 2) uucp.
Also a the mix fax-Gateway from i*link is running on this host.
-> And if so (and you evidently don;t have the serial driver problem)
could you send me the output of the hostinfo command for my survey?
Sure:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 28.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 64 tasks, 128 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.72, Mach factor: 0.51
root@%m:%c3[%h]>
==============================================================
"Rock solid".
Crashes after using a demo of SBook to dial out (so when using SBook
regularly "Very unstable"
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
I use UUCP, PNI 1.12 SLIP, NXFax and TipTop for communication purposes. None
of them have given me any problems. They are all using /dev/cufa. I don't use
Taylor UUCP.
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 64 tasks, 97 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.07, Mach factor: 0.97
==============================================================
"Rock solid"
Turbo station color
==============================================================
> x pretty stable
My machine has 32 MBs of RAM, an internal 400 MB and extern 1G drive
and I'm using taylor-uucp 1.04 as well as ppp2.1.2 (both programs were
_not_ active when the machine crashed).
harka> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 51 tasks, 84 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 1.70, Mach factor: 0.65
I'll give you all the details:
When I use my machine, I always do 1 - 3 uucp-connections (taylor-uucp 1.04).
Sometimes I also bring up a ppp-2.1.2 connection. Both of them are on /dev/cufa
(therefore with rts/cts).
The panics happened after starting to power down my machine (I usually type
'power' in the login-panel). The panel disapeared, there was some (not much)
disk activity, everything as normal. But then, the machine didn't power down,
it kept doing nothing for a bit longer then normal (if I remember correctly,
this was about 10-20 sec). Then suddenly a panic-window appeared, but it was
immediately replaced with the boot-window, so I haven't seen what was written
in the window (if anything at all). I didn't find anything in
/usr/adm/messages.
This behaviour happened 2 times some weeks ago, but it hasn't happened again
since then. I didn't make any major changes on my system, I'm still running
taylor-uucp 1.04 and ppp-2.1.2, which am using in the same way as before the
two crashes.
=================
I thought you would be interested in this. The following sequence of commands
lets my system panic:
online (shell 1)
CTRL-] ! (same shell)
ot (in another shell-window, could possibly be the same)
fg %1 (shell 1)
Some explanations:
online is an alias for "kermit -l /dev/cua"
my ~/.kermrc looks like this:
set line /dev/cufa
set speed 19200
define ot -
!/usr/local/bin/term < \v(line) > \v(line)
connect
So after the 'online' command I'm directly connected to the modem. With 'CTRL-]
!' I escape to a shell.
Then I try to 'ot' in another shell. 'ot' stands for 'open term' and is an
alias for 'term > /dev/cua < /dev/cua'. I'm using term 1.12. This gives an
error-msg in the first shell, something like:
I/O error
operaton would block
[1] + Suspended (tty input) ....
and the shell prompt appears. When I then try to return to kermit with 'fg %1',
the system most often panics (yesterday once, today 2 times out of 3 tries (in
one test it did not panic, but when I repeated the whole sequence, it did)).
Some excerpts from /usr/adm/messages:
Feb 26 04:21:07 harka mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
Feb 26 04:21:08 harka syslogd: going down on signal 15
Feb 26 04:27:33 harka mach: Killing all processes
Feb 26 04:27:33 harka mach: continuing
Feb 26 04:27:33 harka mach: unmounting /internal ... done
Feb 26 04:27:33 harka mach: Root unmount FAILED
Feb 26 04:27:33 harka mach: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 rebooting
Mach...
Feb 26 13:24:17 harka mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
[rest is the same as above]
Feb 26 13:33:49 harka mach: unexpected kernel page fault failure
In the panic-Window I remember to have seen something like '... during table
walk...'.
==============================================================
> rock solid
Arg. Well, to my previous message, add the information that the
machine with NS-3.3 on it does *nothing* via the serial port. It
is ethernet connected (thinnet), and the only SCSI device on it is
a CD-ROM drive. Absolutely no activity goes on the serial ports.
==============================================================
At home I have 3.3 on a 25MHz slab. One serial port doing TranSys
dialupIP and the other has a DeskJet 500 (ick).
At work I have 3.3 on a 33MHz slab. Both serial ports running TranSys
dialupIP, and a couple extra drives hanging off the scsii.
For 2 weeks, 24 hours a day, I have not had a single problem (that I
would attribute to 3.3...). I'd say its "rock solid".
My DBKit stuff and DO stuff , perl and web stuff recompiles/works just
fine.
==============================================================
Rock solid.... but I have had two unexplained crashed in the last week. I'm
running NS3.3 with NS3.3DevPR1, tayloruucp 1.04 every 10 minutes, transsys pni
1.11.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 75 tasks, 115 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.63, Mach factor: 0.79
==============================================================
ROCK solid.
Hardware: NeXTstation mono 25Mhz, 400dpi printer, 8MB RAM, 500 MB HD.
No network
Supra 14.4 Modem on serial A, using SLIP-920904 package.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 8.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 43 tasks, 73 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.09, Mach factor: 0.94
==============================================================
running daydream half the time as well
turbo color station 16mb
no serial activity
==============================================================
My NS 3.3/m68k system is:
pretty stable
Remarks:
I have an '040 cube, 16MB RAM, ~340MB external SCSI, NeXT CD-ROM, internal
optical and 2.88 floppy.
no serial activity
hostinfo:
anthracite> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 36 tasks, 67 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.33, Mach factor: 0.88
==============================================================
rock solid
The 040/25 Cube....newly built 3.3 boot device, NOT upgraded, I used BuildDisk
on the 3.3 CD.
*This is connected to an Ethernet which actually is a switched 10mb 10Base-T
segment.
*The unit has 64mb of RAM.
*Internally I boot off a Fujitsu 2634 SCSI drive (405mb) and also have a
Quantum 1.08gb drive inside.
*There is a PLI Super Floppy on the SCSI bus.
*A Telebit WorldBlazer modem on serial port A.
*An Abaton/HSD FAX-modem on serial port B.
The modem is lightly used, the FAX is used several times a day.
==============================================================
rock solid
NXFax 1.04.1 ( ZyXEL 1496 E+ on port b )
Taylor 1.04
Dialup IP v 920904
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x1
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 58 tasks, 93 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.13, Mach factor: 0.96
==============================================================
My systems have been rock solid
My black setup is vanilla slab; external 1G drive, CD300, Tecmar tape, NeXT
printer; 32Mb memory; B&W. Only mucking with "np_off" gets me into
unrecoverable trouble. (I also use dialupIP from Louis)
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x1
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 58 tasks, 97 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.97, Mach factor: 0.03
==============================================================
rock solid
P.S.: Only client TurboColor upgraded, server still runs NS 3.2!
Rene' Kulschewski <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de>
rock solid
I have running a 25 MHz MonoStation at home and a 25 MHz ColorStation at work.
At home i have no ethernet, all 'networking' is done via modem/PPP. At work we
heave much traffic on our net, including mbone and so on.
> Could you tell me what serial software runs on the 3.3 system.
>
None, everything on my server where I run NXFax 1.03 and Taylor UUCP 1.3
> And could you send me the output of the hostinfo command?
>
otherone> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 33 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 5
Board revision: 0xf
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 48 tasks, 79 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.07, Mach factor: 0.95
==============================================================
Rock solid. The only problem I've had is that I had to reinstall NXFax.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 47 tasks, 91 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 1.78, Mach factor: 0.24
==============================================================
Well, I won't hesitate to designate my non-turbo colorslab running
NS3.3 as "rock solid". No problemos yet.
>What SCSI-devices?
-> The internal 105 Mb disk (only used for swap/tmp),
1 external HP C2247 1Gig/3.5" disk,
the occasional CD-ROM drive
>What activity on the serial port?
-> A Zyxel U-1496E modem
>Any network attached?
-> Nope
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 50 tasks, 88 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 3.04, Mach factor: 0.50
==============================================================
My system is Rock Solid. 3.3 has not even crashed once.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 63 tasks, 104 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.06, Mach factor: 0.98
I have an additional SCSI disk and a CDROM on the SCSI bus. I use serial port
A for a SLIP connection over modem running at 19200.
==============================================================
"Rock solid"
Doesn't use any communication program
==============================================================
"Rock solid"
Taylor UUCP 1.04 (I think, maybe 1.05) and PPP2.?? (2.1.4?)
Other than the occasional stalled serial port it's fine.
==============================================================
rock solid.
No troubles! Have had the machine maybe 4 years now, upgraded from
NSv1.1 all the way up to 3.3, changed hardware configuration, it
just works! 040 cube, 16/1GB, NeXTPrinter, ZyXEL modem, NeXT CD ROM.
I use regularly Frame, Diagram, Virtuoso, Dataphile, Stuart, SLIP,
OmniWeb, etc without problem.
TransSys SLIP 920904 at highest baud rate (38.4, I beleive) through
a ZyXEL U1496E.
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 55 tasks, 90 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.64, Mach factor: 0.86
==============================================================
Serial activity? heheh I run PPP virtually all the time. Yea, I definitly have
a ton of that
going on, no question about it. Probably close to 24/7 time wise. The load of
course
varies, but it's allways there.
This is with light serial activity:
vampire:40> ping fusion
PING fusion: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=0. time=508. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=1. time=274. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=2. time=274. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=3. time=268. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=4. time=284. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=5. time=290. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=6. time=281. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=7. time=312. ms
64 bytes from 129.174.124.24: icmp_seq=8. time=216. ms
^C
----fusion PING Statistics----
9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 216/300/508
And this is my hostinfo taken during the "ping" & while on IRC, with 10 active
App's, & a MUD running in the background (Note, the mud's only got a few users
on it at this point, I checked):
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x1
Primary memory available: 20.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 63 tasks, 107 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.54, Mach factor: 0.87
Here's output from df:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 1442278 1191919 106131 92% /
/dev/sd1a 98907 21593 72368 23% /private/swapdisk
/private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile
98907 21593 72368 23%
/private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile.front
/dev/sd2a 661156 551836 43204 93% /Blood
==============================================================
Rock solid.
NeXTstation turbo b/w
2GB baracuda at id 1
Toshiba 3401 CDROM at id 2
No serial port connection
(although we do have a turbo color with a Zyxel running fax software
and its rock solid too)
twisted pair network
==============================================================
Pretty stable.
Sure. I get occasional panics during serial port activity which I didn't get
before, however otherwise I've had no problems and my desktop systems have
stayed up. The systems that panic are going to be replaced by a Sun with lots
of serial ports - incredible as it seems, Solaris is now a much more stable
operating system than NEXTSTEP is. Other than that, the systems work, which is
why I say that they're pretty stable.
karubi:treed (treed): hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 33 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 5
Board revision: 0xf
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 57 tasks, 94 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.00, Mach factor: 0.99
==============================================================
--> rock solid
It is just a home machine with 4 users.
Taylor UUCP 1.05 running (calls every hour, 24 hours/day)
TipTop and term running sometimes so I can use Omniweb
and NCFTP.
It was really unstable (the windowserver) after I just used
Upgrade.app to go from 3.2 to 3.3. As soon as you gave the
windowserver alot to do(played Xox or scrolled a window fast) it
would start to lurch (everything got real jumpy) and act up. A
couple of times it wouldn't even let me log on, until I typed exit
first.... But a full install fixed that right up.
It is a color turbo too, so only a single internal floppy drive....
The only external device is another harddrive.
==============================================================
I've only had it installed on our network for a few days, so I can hardly
say I have had much time for problems to appear. So far, however, it
seems 'rock solid'.
The system I use here is a SL/IP machine (cufb @ 38400) that also does UUCP
(cufa @ 38400) duty on the other serial port. It is also the mailhost, but the
mail spool is NFS mounted from another machine.
Here is hostinfo:
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 20.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 57 tasks, 95 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.85, Mach factor: 0.65
==============================================================
pretty stable
1 Panic in 2 weeks.
I do not use the serial port at the moment.
NeXT CD-ROM
3 Internal disks (400 Mb, 250 Mb, 1 GB)
The Panic was caused when I inserted a Mac floppy however the system managed
to sync the disks so no harm was done., I have not been able to recreate the
problem.
I have also experienced 2 or 3 Workspace manager errors during this time.
==============================================================
My NS 3.3/m68k system is rock solid
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 42 tasks, 74 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 2.21, Mach factor: 0.21
==============================================================
My NS 3.3/m68k system is:
rock solid
Q1. Is your system engaged in any serial port activity?
A1. Only XyXel modem
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 2
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 24.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 37 tasks, 70 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.80, Mach factor: 0.83
next 52%
==============================================================
pretty stable
All problems (kernel panics) I had seem to have to do with the serial port.
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 1
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 20.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 48 tasks, 81 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.17, Mach factor: 0.92
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From: tbyars@earthlink.net (Tim Byars)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 08:22:55 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Message-ID: <tbyars-3003950822550001@192.0.0.23>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk> <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
|> Amjad Moghul (Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk) wrote:
|>
|> > Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
|> > E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
|>
|> So you really think SJ reads several hundred emails
|> of ordinary people every day? You could as well try
|> to mail to god@heaven.net.
|>
You have the address wrong. As a sign of the times the correct address for
God is,
"god@heaven.com"
also you might want to check out the following;
jesus@christ.org
st_peter@pearlygates.com
moses@mountiantop.com
While I can't confirm the following I believe that it is right,
satan@hell.edu
Tim
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From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dreams.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Pictures?
Date: 1 Apr 1995 02:20:45 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lid9u$22d@news.cerf.net>
References: <riddlerD637nr.KBL@netcom.com>
Andy Riedel writes
> How do I get OmniWeb to display non-Next (.tiff, .rtf, etc.) pictures
> shilw browsing?
> riddler@netcom.com
You should also download OmniImage and OmniImageFilter from Omni development
(you can do this using OmniWeb). Once installed, these applications will
allow you to view a wide variety of pictures (OmniImage) and transparently
translate non-TIFF pictures into TIFF format for other applications
(OmniImageFilter).
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
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Subject: Re: I hate the NeXT mouse!!!
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3ld41e$c5s@news.halcyon.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 18:00:20 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar30.180020.5694@seer.demon.co.uk>
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In article <3ld41e$c5s@news.halcyon.com> Darin Boesch <darinb@halcyon.com>
writes:
> I have used mouses (mice?) on many systems, but the mouse in NeXT
> drives me batty because of that darned acceleration dealy. What I
> mean is, it's not that the tracking is too fast or too slow, it's
> the fact that after some "speed" the damn thing takes off and over
> shoots the icons I'm aiming for.
I know what you mean, I have exactly the same problem with non-accelerated
mice on foreign systems.
> Anyway, my question is this: Is there any way to turn off the mouse
> acceleration? (ie. just have a one-to-one movement on the screen)
Check out the effect of changing the mouse speed preference (in
Preferences.app); then look at the hader for evsio.h. The relevant dwrite
is:
NeXT1 MouseScaling
Paul
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Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503311943.AA12741@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 14:42:57 -0500
Subject: what are .nosd files?
I see a lot of files on peanuts that end with the extention .nosd?
What are these files and how are they viewed?
Thanks
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Contact Info for Apache Digital?
Date: 31 Mar 1995 17:34:34 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3li01q$6as@digifix.digifix.com>
Hi all
Does anyone have an electronic contact point for Apache Digital? They
market NS/Intel compatible hardware...
Thanks
Scott Anguish
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From: brzez@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (John Brzezniak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Serial performance on SoftPC
Date: 1 Apr 1995 23:42:17 GMT
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
Message-ID: <3lkocp$e38@fnnews.fnal.gov>
I'm considering using NextStep on Intel hardware and will occasionally need
to access DOS stuff. I'm wondering how good is the current performance of
SoftPC/SoftWindows using serial ports. I currently have NS 3.2 and have
tried out the 3.0 demo of SoftPC that came on the CDROM. I get dropped
characters and this is unacceptable. Is SoftPC 4.0 better? Will the MUX
driver help things out if I install it? I'd like to be able to get releiable
transfers at 38400 baud. Is this possible?
Also, is a demo of SoftPC 4.0 available anywhere or on NS 3.3 User CDROM? I'd
like to try it out on my hardware. I really don't want to go to NS 3.3 since
I've heard of some problems with it and I'm pretty happy with 3.2. If a demo
does exist can somone upload it to a site? I know its pretty big but I'd
definately like to try it.
Thanks for any help..
-- John
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 01:49:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Changing User permission...
Cc: acsn-misc@alleg.EDU
[ message emailed to "clannes@panix.com" and csn-misc ]
This may sound simple to some, but I would like to
change my User (clannes) to me part of group 'wheel'
so that I can su to root from the terminal. Currently,
it is in the group other.
How do I do this safely? I am the only user on my
computer (standalone) with no ethernet. I just want
to have permissions to shut down certain operations
and write to most files.
Please email if possible.
My guess would be 'chgrp'
Check out Carl Edman's "asroot" program. Being a peon-user, I
haven't used it, but I think it will allow you to do most things you
might want to do. (Ok, I'm guessing, I admit it)
here's where to find it:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/admin/asroot.N.bs.tar.gz
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/admin/asroot.README
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/util/asroot.README
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/util/asroot.tar.z
TjL
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From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Step Edu and CD-ROM FUSSING
Date: 1 Apr 1995 18:13:12 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3lk53o$jl9@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3l72bu$s9e@news.next.com>
In article <3l72bu$s9e@news.next.com> mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
writes:
> In article <3l1knc$kku@legba.synergy.net> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com
(Pohl
> Longsine) writes:
> > Unfortunately, no. This pains me, also, despite your dubious use of
> > the word "standard." (At least I can take a 2Gig SCSI drive to
> > a RISC machine and know that it will work.) I'd like to see NeXT
> > support EIDE CD-ROM drives, and NEC's proprietary interface, and
> > Toshiba's proprietary interface, and . . . [pick driver maker]'s
> > proprietary CD-ROM interface, and on down to the lowliest SCSI
> > wannabe interface on the crappiest of sound cards.
> >
> > Well, at least EIDE.
> >
>
> From NeXTanswers document 1839: EIDE Driver Overview:
>
> General Overview notes: This is a new driver for supporting IDE disks
and
> ATAPI CD-ROMs. It will support primary and secondary IDE controllers.
>
> Future Planning
>
> Future / Update Planning: Under Development
> Reason for New Driver / Update: New Features
> New Driver / Update Timeframe: Q2 95
>
> Yep, it's coming. I use an early version at home, and it's working fine
with
> my ATAPI CD-ROM and two IDE hard drives.
> --
> Mark Bessey
> NeXT Computer, Inc
> Software Quality Assurance
> -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
Can you tell us what size the two EIDE hard drives are that you tested
this on?
Steve
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Subject: Opener.app & PGP
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950401194848.6900D-100000@lipschitz>
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:50:57 -0600
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
- -- kc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.1
Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface.
iQCVAgUBL32uf+Bu0383Om6dAQGhUwQAh7cVDtdRVobxsXoHAIOGpbNjq7pl8uuy
dhM94Puk88InjqJMGhWvpGk3PS8XMpcsAm2i5jPP3i8+hVfieX700mBel2p8yAnf
EHMnXqvczOptghm/ZKcT6vxIrHcj0hFheNasWgRlR+BsCewd+zoftjYXRZb4Q/Cg
6z8UfTvsrPY=
=p+6P
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Network Performance NS/FIP-3COM 3C509
Date: 29 Mar 1995 23:13:37 -0800
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3ldln1$55r@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
References: <1995Mar29.230016.19440@cyantic.com>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
In article <1995Mar29.230016.19440@cyantic.com>,
Mark T. Dornfeld <mark@cyantic.com> wrote:
>We have just observed an interesting discrepancy between the input and
>output performance on a NS/FIP box. The test is not scientific, but it is
>still troubling.
>
>We were innocently FTP'ing a 2.5Mb Postscript file from a Sun SPARCserver
>1000 to the NS box and found that it transferred at the miserable rate of
>100Kb/Sec. However, on the reverse operation, (put to the Sun), the
>transfer rate was 500Kb/Sec.
>
>This is a rather drastic difference between the read and write operations
>on the network interface. Our comparison for the same two operations on
>two other platforms are as follows.
>
> Put to 1000E Get from 1000E
>
>NS/FIP 486/66 Dell 520 Kb/Sec 100 Kb/Sec
>
>NS Moto 68040/30Mhz 670 Kb/Sec 560 Kb/Sec
>
>Sun IPC 770 Kb/Sec 780 Kb/Sec
>
>I suppose this could be a driver issue, but I wouldn't mind getting some
>comments about this in case the 3COM hardware isn't up to snuff. We would
>like to have the right combination of hardware before we roll out boxes in
>quantity.
>
>Thanks
>--
>--
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>1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
>Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
3com's seem to have some wierd buffering problem. They get full and have
to direst or something. If you learn how to fix this please let me
know.
We are very happy with the Cogent EM960's on th ehigh end (though avoid
a Micronics P60 motherboard). Intel Ether Express works good for
deployment, I haven't used the Ether Express Pro's yet.
-Mont
Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
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From: mwhite@ucdavis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 1 Apr 1995 00:32:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3li6v4$pl6@mark.ucdavis.edu>
References: <tbyars-3003950822550001@192.0.0.23>
Tim Byars writes
> In article <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
> wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>
> |> Amjad Moghul (Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> |>
> |> > Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> |> > E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
> |>
> |> So you really think SJ reads several hundred emails
> |> of ordinary people every day? You could as well try
> |> to mail to god@heaven.net.
> |>
>
> You have the address wrong. As a sign of the times the correct address
for
> God is,
>
> "god@heaven.com"
>
> also you might want to check out the following;
>
> jesus@christ.org
> st_peter@pearlygates.com
> moses@mountiantop.com
>
> While I can't confirm the following I believe that it is right,
>
> satan@hell.edu
>
> Tim
Sorry Tim, but heaven.com is a company address (run by the catholic
church) and all e-mail will be screened by priests before being
passed on. If, in the reformed tradition you wish to e-mail Him
directly try:
God@heaven.gov
- mwhite
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the mouse pointer color.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 2 Apr 1995 14:38:26 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3lmct2$n66@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3lfq36$r0t@news.eecs.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Pred Bundalo (pred@eecs.nwu.edu) wrote:
: When using NS in color, especially with darker shades, on a high-res
: monitor, the mouse pointer becomes hard to find.
: I want to change the mouse pointer color to, say, bright red, and
: I searched for the right tiff image but couldn't find it, although
: I did find the images for the copy, link, etc mouse pointers.
Maybe this could point you into the right direction.
Pipe it to pft and see what happens....
------------- cut here --------
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
------------- cut here again --------
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From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman)
Subject: .snd files conversion
Message-ID: <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com>
Sender: news@sgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:01:31 GMT
I'm sure I should look in the FAQ, but, I'll just ask all you nice people.
I want to convert .snd files to Sun .au files, and other formats (.wav ??).
Is there software available or some other method ??
--thanks in advance
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From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: I hate the NeXT mouse!!!
Message-ID: <eldD6BM4r.JFE@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3ld41e$c5s@news.halcyon.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 19:58:03 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom6.netcom.com
Darin Boesch (darinb@halcyon.com) wrote:
: I'm convinced, I'll NEVER get used to it.
: I have used mouses (mice?) on many systems, but the mouse in NeXT
: drives me batty because of that darned acceleration dealy. What I
: mean is, it's not that the tracking is too fast or too slow, it's
: the fact that after some "speed" the damn thing takes off and over
: shoots the icons I'm aiming for.
There is an algorithym that you can set under the mouse control panel(i
think). It takes dome getting used to, but it will give you complete
control over acceleration and tracking.
--
ericd....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sarge@mv.mv.com (John Mehrtens)
Subject: AppleTalk Install/Setup '030 to AT:LWPro600
Keywords: appletalk next
Message-ID: <D6EHJn.H1s@mv.mv.com>
Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Usenet News)
Summary: Looking for info on setting up Appletalk on an '030 Cube
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:11:46 GMT
I have several things here... :)
I have an Appletalk network running, and saw support in my system (an
'030 Cube with NS 3.2) for Appletalk, but I'm clueless on how to set it
up. I have all the proper calbles, etc. but just need the driver(s)
loaded/referenced so I can use my Apple LaserWriter Pro 600 printer
(connected, obviously, to the AT network) with my Cube. I've tried
several things, all of them resulting in dead-ends.
This is where I definitely wish I had bought a LWPro630 with ENet. :)
Thank you for the info. in advance. Also, email is easier 4 me.
sarge@mv.mv.com
manjjm@tec.nh.us
Thanks
John
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- John Mehrtens Insanity is Just a State of Mind. -
- sarge@mv.mv.com Atari Jaguar: 64 bit RISC gaming! -
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From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can Nextstation monitor work with laptop?
Date: 01 Apr 1995 20:57:19 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <KOCHHAR.95Apr1155719@endor.harvard.edu>
hi!
I was wondering if a NeXTStation monitor could be hooked up to work
with a Laptop running Windows and Nextstep?
Thanks.
-sandeep kochhar
--
Sandeep Kochhar
248 Hampshire St. #2 email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu
Cambridge, MA 02139 tel: (617) 876-2052
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE when?
Message-ID: <1995Mar31.225758.2397@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 22:57:58 GMT
In article <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) writes:
> Hi,
>
> as I am planning on buying an Intel system, I'd really like to
> know the state of support for enhanced IDE. In the NextAnswers
> 1Q95 was targetted, but I haven't heard anything else about the
> release of a new driver. I'm asking this because enhanced IDE
> drives are much cheaper than SCSI drives, and I might be able to
> get a SCSI host adaptor for some time just to install NextStep
> (I'd rather invest the money in RAM than in a SCSI host adaptor).
>
> So, any news out there concerning the release of a new driver?
>
Forget EIDE. SCSI disks are now almost the same price and you have much
less trouble. Buy a motherboard with a NCR SCSI Controller on board.
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: .snd files conversion
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 12:41:12 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950401134112.417AACUK.malc@daneel>
References: <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com> <3livl2$kvg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > I want to convert .snd files to Sun .au files, and other formats
> > (.wav ??).
> >
> > Is there software available or some other method ??
> >
> >
>There's a small utility on NeXT called the Workspace Manager.
>Launch it and hilite the extension .snd - then type .au
>
Workspace Manager -- is that a PD thing...? Is it on the archives
somewhere...?
:-)
>You're finished - provided you hit RETURN.
>
>The formats are mutually inclusive.
>
Well, just to be pedantic... the file formats are the same, the sets of
supported formats are not the same, although there is a big intersection
between the two.
If you want to convert anything to .wav format, use sox, or better still
GISO.app (baiscally a wrapper round sox), both available from various
archives.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: TIA
Message-ID: <eldD6F1L0.1Lt@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 16:24:36 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom17.netcom.com
Has anyone slipped into a server that is using TIA yet, under NeXTStep?
how is the preformance?
--
ericd....
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Daydream Next CD-ROM compatible?
Date: 30 Mar 1995 17:34:56 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3leq40$c2e@saba.info.ucla.edu>
I need to know if the original Next CD-ROM
will work with Daydream v2.11.
If so, what Mac driver are you using?
Has anyone gotten a 2x Toshiba 3401 working
with Daydream? If so what Mac driver?
Thanks.
Charlie Dvorak
scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 128 Fujitsu ext. optical as swapdisk
Date: 30 Mar 1995 17:41:55 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3leqh3$hqs@saba.info.ucla.edu>
For Your Information.
Last night I formatted a 128 meg 3.5" optical
as a swapdisk using BuildDisk.app.
It worked just fine. Is it efficient? NO.
But to help me with some large animations
and get me through to another HD purchase
it'll do fine.
No configuration of rc.swap or another file
was necessary.
ND 25mHz 40/32/400int/1000ext
NS 3.2
Yes, the HDs are all full - that's animation
and sound for ya.
Charlie Dvorak
scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 30 Mar 1995 17:48:02 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3leqsi$gr9@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk> <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3le22s$1bcg@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>Amjad Moghul (Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
>> E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
>
>So you really think SJ reads several hundred emails
>of ordinary people every day? You could as well try
>to mail to god@heaven.net.
That's mr.god@heaven.net.COM - you think the
Next life is free? Wait'll you get there and
see the cost of the upgrades.
Charlie Dvorak
>
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 3 Apr 1995 04:15:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3lnsob$2fn@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: mizuguch@kits.sfu.ca (Mark Hiroshi Mizuguchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: old Draw.app Demo
Date: 3 Apr 95 02:09:11 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Message-ID: <mizuguch.796874951@sfu.ca>
Do anyone know of any ftp sites that have the old source for the Draw.app demo.
By old I mean without all the new undo mechanisms.
I am currently trying to come up with a simple multi-layer draw app. I dont
need the undo functionality and am having a hard time understanding the demo
with all the undo code. As well the app is taking up more disk space than I
have allocated on our schools disks.
e-mail responses appreciated.
--
Mark Mizuguchi
mizuguch@sfu.ca
--
Mark Mizuguchi
mizuguch@sfu.ca
From: lee00074@mc.duke.edu (Ju-Sung Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NeXT Icon Web Site Wanted
Date: 3 Apr 1995 13:34:49 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3lothp$la8@news.duke.edu>
I was told that there is some Web-site which contains many of
the NeXT icons converted into .BMP files (bit-maps). Would
someone please e-mail me that site (if it exists)?
E-mail address: lee00074@mc.duke.edu
Thanks (very much) in advance.
Ju-Sung Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Fujitsu Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD6Gnnn.My9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:18:59 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Is anyone using the new Fujitsu Magneto Optical SCSI drive under NSI?
If so, how is its performance?
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Marble background
Date: 31 Mar 1995 16:14:36 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lh9pc$gtn@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Does anybody know of any good small picutres (or large for that matter)
that can be tiled to produce a nice (very passive) marble or smiilar
background for the screen?
- Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: bgilson@ive.mrg.uswest.com (Bob_Gilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 31 Mar 1995 17:46:26 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lhf5i$t4k@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: Steve Jobs on internet
In article <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk> Amjad@moghul.demon.co.uk
(Amjad Moghul) writes:
>
> Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
>
Through the grapevine, I've heard SJ is a voracious reader of email.
I would take a quess at his address and send him a note.
From: bgilson@ive.mrg.uswest.com (Bob_Gilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 31 Mar 1995 17:47:14 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lhf72$t4o@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: Steve Jobs internet
>
> Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
>
Through the grapevine, I've heard Steve Jobs is a voracious reader of
email. If I were you, I would take a quess at his address and send him a
note.
From: bgilson@ive.mrg.uswest.com (Bob_Gilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs on internet
Date: 31 Mar 1995 17:47:26 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lhf7e$t4p@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
References: <446288842wnr@moghul.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: Steve Jobs internet
>
> Does anyone know if Mr Jobs has a personal
> E-Mail address and if he does, what it is?
>
Through the grapevine, I've heard Steve Jobs is a voracious reader of
email. If I were you, I would take a quess at his address and send him a
note.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Philip J DiFalco (sxupjd@fnma.com)
Subject: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Message-ID: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:29:40 GMT
I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
(quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the driver
for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
If you have a solution, please email me.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
--
Philip DiFalco, sxupjd@fnma.com
From: steve@stevek.ipac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: FROZEN WORKSTATION!!! HEEEEEEEELP!!!!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 19:04:58 PDT
Organization: Internet Public Access Corporation
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.24667.796874773.steve@stevek.ipac.net>
References: <3lfptn$quc@news.eecs.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
try bringing it up in single user mode (check your manual) and fsck the drive
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: next-mailing groups
Date: 3 Apr 1995 18:13:03 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lpdrf$kvj@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
References: <3lh02m$shg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de wrote:
/ Could someone send me a list of existing NeXT mailing groups in the
/ universe?
Have a look at http://www.digifix.com/UserDatabases/MailingLists/index.html:
These are some of the mailing lists that are available for discussions
pertaining to NEXTSTEP/OpenStep and related topics.
Create Mailing List
DataPhile Mailing List
GNU OpenStep Mailing List
HyperSense Users List
NeXT Administration List
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Home-Brew Discussion List
NEXTSTEP Driver Kit Discussion List
MindShare Administrators List
MiscKit Discussion List
MiscKit Document Handling Architecture Discussion List
MiscKit MiscString Discussion List
Music Kit Mailing List
Music and DSP Mailing List
NeXTinterpreter Development Group
NeXT Programers Mailing List
NeXT User Group Austria
OmniWeb WWW Browser Discussion List
UK NeXT Announce
WarKit Development Group
WebStep Development Group
3D Reality Mailing List
I give you some more information about the most important groups:
GNU OpenStep Mailing List
Information
NeXTmail Allowed: NO
List Description
GNU OpenStep is goint to be an implementation of the OpenStep API
Subscribing
Send e-mail to gnustep-l-request@netcom.com or keith@netcom.com requesting
to be added or removed from the list and stating the address to use on the
list.
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Home-Brew Discussion List
Information
NeXTmail Allowed: NO
List Description
A resource for people who are using, upgrading, building, or planning to
build their own PC to run NEXTSTEP/Intel.
Subscribing
send a message to majordomo@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu (no subject) with the
message text:
subscribe nsfip-homebrew
(for the regular list)
or
subscribe nsfip-homebrew-digest
(for the digest)
MiscKit Discussion List
Information
NeXTmail Allowed: YES
List Description
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steven Borrelli)
Subject: Re: TIA
References: <eldD6F1L0.1Lt@netcom.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:30:16 GMT
Message-ID: <D6Go6G.EA4@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <eldD6F1L0.1Lt@netcom.com>, Eric Davis <eld@netcom.com> wrote:
>Has anyone slipped into a server that is using TIA yet, under NeXTStep?
>
>how is the preformance?
>
>
>--
>ericd....
>
With a 14.4k connection, I get about 1.3k/sec with DialupIP. It works fine
with mail and Web Browsers.
_steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: My Turbo Station don't reboot
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.130735.454@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:07:35 GMT
Hello
My turbo station don't reboot
if I try to power off or to do a halt ( with the alt comand ~)
the system freeze ... but nothing else happend
it is the same if ( as root)
I type 'reboot' or 'reboot -r'
if someone can help me ???
Gery Divry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE when?
Message-ID: <D6J2x0.HC@fritz.snafu.de>
Organization: dasburo Berlin
References: <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <1995Mar31.225758.2397@gamelan.shnet.org>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:43:47 GMT
In <1995Mar31.225758.2397@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) writes:
>Forget EIDE. SCSI disks are now almost the same price and you have much
>less trouble. Buy a motherboard with a NCR SCSI Controller on board.
Yes, a fine SCSI controller, works very well under nearly all operating
systems, but not yet under NS 3.3.
NeXT promised to release a driver in Q2 95.
--
--------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
--------------------------------------------
From: tseg@access4.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,dc.jobs,misc.jobs.contract
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXTSTEP, ObjectiveC, OOD, Telephone comm.; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 4 Apr 1995 23:59:16 -0400
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., Mt. Airy, MD USA.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lt4il$e32@access4.digex.net>
Summary: Excellent job environment, LONG TERM CONTRACT
Keywords: SS5, SONET, DMS-100, ObjectiveC
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXTStep
4+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is preferred
6+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Zappa Motherboard?
Date: 4 Apr 1995 23:54:29 GMT
Organization: Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit"at Bonn, Institut
Message-ID: <3lsm7l$asc@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Does anybody know if NSfIP 3.3 will run on the new Intel Zappa motherboard,
which has the Triton chipset and EDO RAMs?
If it works, to me this seems to be a good choice for a MB. Any comments?
Thanks, Joerg.
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!venus.sun.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Date: 4 Apr 1995 19:49:10 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ls7rm$ok@news.next.com>
References: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp>
In article <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp> Philip J DiFalco
(sxupjd@fnma.com) writes:
>
> I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
> (quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
> But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
> How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the driver
> for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
>
> If you have a solution, please email me.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks
>
> --
> Philip DiFalco, sxupjd@fnma.com
You're going to have to give some more information: What kind of PC are you
using, what CD-ROM drive, SCSI controller, etc.
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Computer, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sparc 20 announcement
Date: 4 Apr 1995 17:45:06 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ls0j2$mc3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
From the OpenSource announcement about their new Sparc Product line:
>Processor and Performance:
>Either one or two Superscalar SPARC version 8 Processors running
>at 50mhz or 60mhz, with SPARC reference MMU with 65,536 contexts,
>20-KB data and 16-KB instruction on-chip cache. Secondary 1MB
>external optional. The 50mhz and 60mhz models perform at 69.2 or
>88.9 SPECint and 78.3 or 102.8 SPECfp respectively. Multiple
>processors will increase these ratings roughly proportionally.
Have I totally missed an announcement that NS 3.3 has SMP support?
- Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman)
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP
Message-ID: <D6Jx3A.1J2@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
References: <D6IM95.EF4@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:35:34 GMT
In article <D6IM95.EF4@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
writes:
> J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote:
> : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>
> : Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
>
> : - -- kc
>
>
> Last time I checked, PGP wasn't a file archiver or compression algorithm
Well, as I recall PGP compresses the text (using gzip) before encryption...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis)
Subject: Replacement internal hard drives for NeXT cubes
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.164110.10241@sq.sq.com>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Good replacement HD for Cube?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
References: <3lf549$2hc@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:41:10 GMT
Garance A. Drosehn writes:
:
>I find myself suddenly thinking it would be a good idea to replace
>the hard disk in one of my NeXTstations (it's working OK, but it's
>not sounding all that great).
I find myself suddenly thinking it would be a good idea to replace
the hard disk in my NeXT cube, mainly because it ground to a halt the other
night and hasn't come back to life since. (The only clue prior to this
happening was an occasional high-pitched whining noise, about 20 seconds in
duration, about every 60 to 80 seconds, for a few minuteas after booting.)
If anyone can recommend a good internal HD to plug into a cube I'd
appreciate hearing about it. Prices and suppliers would be useful too.
--Rick.
PS: followups set to poster; I'll summarise responses.
--
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SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said
rick.innis@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere."
+1 (416) 239 4801 x251
From: <fas@harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Best multienvironment method
Date: 4 Apr 1995 14:38:06 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lrlke$24b@decaxp.harvard.edu>
There appear to be several ways to have the NeXT Workspace
Manager,
MSWindows, Xwindows, and Macintosh environments running on
one
computer at the same time. Two options are:
Option 1. NEXTSTEP on the x86, Sparc, or HP along with
SoftPC, CubX or co-Xist, and Executor.
Option 2. Solaris and OPENSTEP on the x86, Sparc, or
PowerPC
along with Wabi, Xwindows on Solaris, and MAE (Macintosh
application
environment - to be released in about a week).
Questions
A) What other options are available (and can option 2 above
actually be executed from within the NeXT Workspace
Manager)?
B) What combination is the most convenient to use?
C) What configuration (both hardware and software) gives
the
best performance?
Please post responses instead of sending e-mail.
From: champion@max.tiac.net (ChampionSOFT System Solutions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sell me on NextStep.
Date: 5 Apr 1995 16:22:38 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <3lug4e$in9@sundog.tiac.net>
I'm a student looking at NextStep as a possible operating
system for a small BBS I'm going to start. What I need
is for someone to sell me on NextStep. Such as what is
included in the package (like NFS/TCPIP, etc) and if it
comes with development tools (multithreaded C++), etc, etc
Also, where I can find a list of compatible hardware, would
also be appreciated. Please send a reply in email, if possible.
Thank you very much!
Chris Kaminski
******************************************************
ChampionSOFT System Solutions
******************************************************
72 Castle Hill Rd.
Whitinsville, MA 01588
Voice: (508)234-0207
Fax: (508)234-9590
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP
Message-ID: <D6IM95.EF4@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950401194848.6900D-100000@lipschitz>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:43:53 GMT
J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote:
: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
: Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
: - -- kc
Last time I checked, PGP wasn't a file archiver or compression algorithm
later
j
From: monakho@hiof.no (Mona Kristin Holt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: telnet from mac to next
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:03:39 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College
Message-ID: <monakho.1.2F825CEB@hiof.no>
Keywords: Machintoch telnet
I've got problems with telnet from a mac to a next.
The terminals do not seem to fit together. I get problems with spaces and
returns while listing files. The files are listed out in a totaly mess.
I've tried to set terminal = vt 100, but it does not help.
What can I do to solve the problem?
- Mona Kristin
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get
Date: 5 Apr 1995 13:10:07 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3lu4rf$ag8@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
> when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
> academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
> purchased 3.3?
Are you implying that it's possible to get 3.3 academic ? I've
had 3.3 academic bundle on order for black and white for over a month. The
white turned up within a few days - but NeXT have been telling our
supplier that there is no academic bundle for black at all ! This is
odd as their press release says that there is. Has anyone out there
managed to get 3.3 on black with an academic lisence ?
-pete french.
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: I hate the NeXT mouse!!!
Date: 4 Apr 1995 20:10:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504050108.AA22824@alleg.EDU>
hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de suggested GKMouseScaler. I use it too, and
find it to be wonderful (I've always liked the NeXT Mouse, but it was
also the first one I used extensively, so I didn't have to break any
habits. Now I find other mice to be slow.
Anyway, here's where to find it:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/preferences/GKMouse
Scaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz (size: 19195)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/preferences/GKMouse
Scaler.1.1.README (size: 1113)
or
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/next-interface/GKMous
eScaler.1.1.NI.b.README
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/next-interface/GKMous
eScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what are .nosd files?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 00:57:42 +0200
Organization: Home of BlackLabel
Message-ID: <3lv796$buf@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <9503311943.AA12741@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> writes:
>I see a lot of files on peanuts that end with the extention .nosd?
>What are these files and how are they viewed?
>
I have attached a description of the NEXTSTEP and OpenStep Software
Database (NoSD) at the end of my mail.
We are currently working on a NEXTSTEP Application for editing/viewing
the NoSD entries. Soon also a WorldWideWeb version will be available to
retrieve and add information from/to NoSD.
Regards
cb
The project NoSD was set up to overcome the deficit on reliable
information about NEXTSTEP Software. NeXT itself does only supply
information about commercial products, and the written broschures are
mostly obsolete. On the other hand, new software is entering the
market every day, some commercial, some public domain.
A further difficulty emerges through the rising number of supported
platforms, which often may lead to the situation that a certain
product might be availble only to certain platforms, thereby narrowing
its usability. Furthermore, it is of importance for many potential
users of NEXTSTEP to have a sufficient number of programs available
before moving to the NEXTSTEP platform. Common prejudice tells that
there are no programs existing for NEXTSTEP. This project would like
to prove to the contrary.
NoSD is aimed at a total survey of "soft" products for NEXTSTEP which
are, will be, or have been available for NEXTSTEP, comprising
programs, mission critical projects, patches, system extensions,
fonts, drivers, tools, etc.
For all other questions, or if you like to contribute to our project,
please contact:
Thyl Engelhardt <Thyl_Engelhardt@muc.de>
--
[ Christian Baur,Muenchen-Germany | Life Is HARD ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de(NeXTmail) | and Then You DIE ]
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printer RipOff??!!
Date: 5 Apr 1995 23:04:05 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lv7l5$ac8@news.panix.com>
Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but it strikes me as obscene
that after spending an enormous amount of money on NextStep 3.3 and
Developer 3.2 that I have to PURCHASE a driver and/or program to
allow me to print on a printer other than a NextStep printer!!! I
have a Canon Bubblejet and I am considering buying a new printer
but I know it won't be one of the four or so on the list. How can
this be? How can I have this much difficulty printing, a feature
that should be, without question, supported....
I appreciate that programs like Dots are available but I don't
think they should have to be.
If anyone has any suggestions don't hesitate to respond. I'd love
to see how many people think that I am off the wall on this issue -
I don't think I am.
Thanks for your attention.
Charles.
PPI Recording, NYC
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Netsurfer Announces Netsurfer For NEXTSTEP
Date: 5 Apr 1995 17:26:46 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lujsm$1cc@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3lsa83$gv4@digifix.digifix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In comp.sys.next.announce article <3lsa83$gv4@digifix.digifix.com>
jrussell@netsurfer.com writes:
[munch]
}~ In mid-1995, Netsurfer will ship an add-on to Netsurfer, Netsurfer
}~ News(tm), that provides a feature-rich interface for reading and
}~ posting both plain-text and multimedia enriched (MIME) Internet
}~ (USENET) news articles. Netsurfer News adds seamless news reading
}~ capability to Netsurfer's simple, easy-to-use graphical interface.
[munch]
Now WHY would anyone write a MIME capable Newsbrowser without also
including Newsgrazer format - at least for reading - which was so
well planned and reasonably well implemented by Jayson Adams in its
freeware versions?
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage construction area:<URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP - caution and possible solution
Date: 5 Apr 1995 17:39:26 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lukkf$1ck@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <D6Jx3A.1J2@icgned.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <D6Jx3A.1J2@icgned.nl> tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman) writes:
}~ In article <D6IM95.EF4@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason
Bright)
}~ writes:
}~ > J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote:
}~ > : Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
}~ > Last time I checked, PGP wasn't a file archiver or compression
}~ > algorithm
}~ Well, as I recall PGP compresses the text (using gzip) before
}~ encryption...
Actually, as I understand it, PGP incorporates gzip/gunzip code
rather than (like gnutar) doing an external invocation of the
compression utility - a better design for control and wiping of
plaintext cop(y)ies.
The concern I have here has nothing to do with the propriety of
PGP support in Opener.app. I quite agree that it DOES belong there
using a Cryptor.bundle type interface, perhaps even borrowing the
NIBs from Cryptor.bundle.
The concern that I have is that inclusion of such a facility in the
normal distribution could bring Opener.app under ITAR regulation on
US sites, hence bouncing it quickly from orst and sontata. Not because
it should include the PGP source in its source distribution, which it
plainly cannot, but because as I understand it, NeXT could not have
exported Mail.app with its own version of a Cryptor.bundle intact without
special permission, which under the current state of affairs probably
would not have been issued.
On the other hand, leaving dynamic load hooks for an Opener.app
version of Cryptor.bundle should provide no problems whatsoever. It
would NOT have to be specific to PGP or other possibly restricted
items, but could provide merely an extra-data-entry panel and
hook for invoking it which could be also used, for example, for the
SELECTIVE single-file extraction from archivers that support a filename.
THEN just as with the Cryptor.bundle for Mail.app, a non-US site for
distribution could easily incorporate PGP into Opener.app support, just
as Cryptor does so well for NeXTmail.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
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From: Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Date: 5 Apr 1995 19:40:16 -0700
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com
Message-ID: <136444@cup.portal.com>
References: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp>
Hi Phil,
>I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
>(quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
>But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
>How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the driver
>for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
What kind of interface (SCSI, IDE, other) is your CD ROM? I don't know
about 3.3, but NS3.1 and 3.2 only supported most SCSI and a few IDE types.
(I ended up buying one of the supported SCSI cards for my system)
-- lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
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-- by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." -- Ayn Rand
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP
Date: 4 Apr 1995 07:32:04 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lqslk$d09@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950401194848.6900D-100000@lipschitz>
"J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
>
> -----END
Why haven't you written the support to implement it?
[btw, note that PGP itself probably can not easily be distributed
with Opener, so the idea would probably be to check for CryptoBundle
or PGP somewhere else on the running system]
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP
Date: 5 Apr 1995 21:50:32 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3lv3b8$nqb@paladin.american.edu>
References: <D6Jx3A.1J2@icgned.nl>
In article <D6Jx3A.1J2@icgned.nl> tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman) writes:
:In article <D6IM95.EF4@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
:writes:
:> J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote:
:> : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
:>
:>
:> : Why doesn't Opener.app support PGP ?
:>
:> : - -- kc
:>
:>
:> Last time I checked, PGP wasn't a file archiver or compression algorithm
:
:Well, as I recall PGP compresses the text (using gzip) before encryption...
I am just curious as to why you would want to use Opener.app. As a "Front End"
to pgp? If that is what you want, a NeXT like way to verify sigs and all that
stuff, then I suggest getting TickleServices and the PGP service for it. If you
used Opener.app wouldn't you have to copy all the text to a new document and
then drag that file to Opener.app?
--
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From: rrobosky@ix.netcom.com (Rich Robosky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help - Memory for N1100
Date: 5 Apr 1995 14:49:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3luam9$ch1@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <monakho.1.2F825CEB@hiof.no>
Help!
I need information on a 16MB upgrade for a Next N1100 machine. I
believe it takes (4) 4MB modules but don't know what they are. Does
anyone have the Next part numbers and/or what the memory actually is
made out of?
Please e-mail a response to:
rrobosky@ix.netcom.com
Thanks,
- Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <D6J8vp.3qq@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <jpanicoD6Gnnn.My9@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:52:36 GMT
In article <jpanicoD6Gnnn.My9@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
writes:
>
> Is anyone using the new Fujitsu Magneto Optical SCSI drive under NSI?
> If so, how is its performance?
>
> Joe Panico
> jpanico@netcom.com
>
>
Works without any problems
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From: vmin@urba.ulg.ac.be (Vincent Minder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Best multienvironment method
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 06 Apr 95 09:32:15
Organization: Université de Liège
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <vmin.95Apr693215@darkstar>
References: <3lrlke$24b@decaxp.harvard.edu>
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I don©t know enough about Option 2 to talk about it, but I am
a daily user of (some sort of) Option 1 : NeXTstation with
NEXTSTEP 3.3, co-Xist 3.2 with Motif, and Executor/NS 1.3, and
it is a very efficient combination.
As the main environment, NEXTSTEP is a charm to be in (I guess
you already knew that). co-Xist allows seamless cooperation
with other UNIX systems and performance is reasonable even on
this elder machine. Executor 1.3 is great to run Word and Excel
and is a clear improvement over NeXT©s standard support of the
HFS Mac filesystem. It won©t give you the same level of
compatibility as MAE right now, but this will change when
it gives you the ability to drop in a registered Mac System 7.5
(currenly no code from Apple is involved anywhere in the emulation
process).
Unfortunately, the company that makes Executor (ARDI) currently
has no other choice but to focus more on the DOS and Linux versions
of their emulator, because NeXT inc. apparently refuses to give them
secret information about programming with Interceptor (the Display
PostScript by-passing mechanism) which is mandatory for fast color
graphics. This is a shame. The availability of some sort of Mac
emulation was important to me when I bought a NeXT, and will remain
so.
Hope this helps you (and them).
Vincent
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From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Look what I found
Date: 5 Apr 1995 23:25:15 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3lv8sr$qc9@news.tamu.edu>
From: transque@ix.netcom.com (TransQuest Technologies)
Newsgroups: ba.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.offered,biz.jobs.offered
Subject: OpenStep Windows Product Manager-Northern CA
Date: 5 Apr 1995 19:51:21 GMT
Message-ID: <3lusbp$lkn@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
OpenStep Windows Product Manager-Northern CA
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From: joel@cais.com (Joel C. McClung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT printers on Intel machines
Date: 6 Apr 1995 22:20:13 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3m1pet$7e0@news.cais.com>
When NeXT got out of the hardware business, some companies (Bell Atlantic
for one) talked about making a board that would go in an Intel-based
machine to talk to the black NeXT printer which uses a proprietary
hi-speed serial interface.
Do you know of anyone who's doing this, a point of contact, phone number,
etc? I've got a sales opportunity for a few (on the order of 20-30, maybe
more). Bell Atlantic's response was, "No, we don't sell any Intel-based
products, call 1-800-955-6398", which is NeXT's number. Sigh.
My potential customer is interested in replacing their NeXT hardware with
Intel and doesn't want to have to buy a bunch of new printers if possible.
Thanks.
Joel McClung
(703) 938-2349
(703) 255-2978 fax
From: alec@inc.net (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Popper Compile For SPARC
Date: 4 Apr 1995 04:46:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. 414-476-4266
Message-ID: <3lqiv7$j76@blinky.inc.net>
Hello SPARC NeXTStep Users,
Could anyone out there in NetLand please compile popper for NSSPARC so I
can set up a test on our SPARC Server? I would really appreciate it.
I'd be glad to upload it to the appropriate ftp sites!
Thanks in advance,
Alec Ellsworth
alec@inc.net
From: jim.anderson@cyberstore.ca (Jim Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.newton,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.sequent
Subject: comdex on cd-rom
Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:04:53 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3m1l1l$4bb@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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From: Bob <bob@fas.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HP vs Sun comparison
Date: 6 Apr 1995 23:41:05 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m1u6h$6pq@decaxp.harvard.edu>
How does NEXTSTEP perform on HP computers compared to Sun
computers in general (and compared to Pentium based
computers). What would be the best cofiguration on each
platform at the following price levels; and how do these
computers compare to each other at each price level:
$5,000
$7,500
$10,000
$15,000
please post responses to the newsgroup instead of sending
email to me.
From: Bob <bob@fas.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HP vs Sun comparison
Date: 6 Apr 1995 23:33:16 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Distribution: world
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Printer RipOff??!!
Message-ID: <D6Mq1B.C6D@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3lv7l5$ac8@news.panix.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:55:58 GMT
Charles de Montebello (clannes@panix.com) wrote:
: Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but it strikes me as obscene
: that after spending an enormous amount of money on NextStep 3.3 and
: Developer 3.2 that I have to PURCHASE a driver and/or program to
: allow me to print on a printer other than a NextStep printer!!! I
: have a Canon Bubblejet and I am considering buying a new printer
: but I know it won't be one of the four or so on the list. How can
: this be? How can I have this much difficulty printing, a feature
: that should be, without question, supported....
I don't know what's on the list, but my HP1200C/PS works like a charm. I got the file I needed from ftp.adobe.com.
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: next-mailing groups
Date: 6 Apr 1995 04:54:37 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lvs6d$5ll@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <3lpdrf$kvj@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
You missed the most important e-mail list: NeXT-icon-request@gun.com, which is
dedicated to distributing NEXTSTEP-format 2-, 12- and 24-bit icons and e-mail
pictures. To receive or post you have to subscribe and be able to read
NeXT-mail. Send a message with the word 'subscribe' in the subject to
NeXT-icon-request@gun.com and follow the instructions. There is no other
mailing list that features content-heavy multimedia-format messages like this
one on the planet.
Tim
In article <3lpdrf$kvj@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin
Michlmayr) writes:
> mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de wrote:
> / Could someone send me a list of existing NeXT mailing groups in the
> / universe?
> Have a look at http://www.digifix.com/UserDatabases/MailingLists/index.html:
> These are some of the mailing lists that are available for discussions
> pertaining to NEXTSTEP/OpenStep and related topics.
>
From: brockway@avatar (Jared Brockaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: dvorak keyboard map
Date: 6 Apr 1995 22:42:05 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m1qnt$bb9@kelso.abbott.com>
References: <3m1jj3$9og@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Keywords: dvorak
In article <3m1jj3$9og@engineer.mrg.uswest.com> tcarlin@ngarong.ive.com
(Tim Carlin) writes:
> Does anyone have a pointer to a dvorak.keyboard map for NS Intel?
I couldn't find anything with archie, so I made my own with the
Keyboard.app. Not all of the control key combinations work correctly,
but the command keys work as they should. If there are any glitches
that bother you, let me know what they are and I'll see if I can fix
them.
Just in case you aren't familiar with the setup, this file should
be either in LocalLibrary/Keyboards or a Library/Keyboards folder
in your home directory. It doesn't matter what you call the file as
long as it has a .keymapping suffix. Once you've got that, restart
the Preferences.app and locate the file in the keyboard panel of
the localization preferences. Select it, hide the Preferences.app,
and you're in business.
- Jared brockway@woodstock.abbott.com
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From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: dvorak keyboard map
Date: 7 Apr 1995 05:12:00 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3m2hj0$5hq@news.xmission.com>
References: <3m1jj3$9og@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Tim,
Your email address doesn't work.
...................kris
Tim Carlin (tcarlin@ngarong.ive.com) wrote:
: Does anyone have a pointer to a dvorak.keyboard map for NS Intel?
: Thanks,
: Tim Carlin
: 303 938 2804
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From: tcarlin@ngarong.ive.com (Tim Carlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: dvorak keyboard map
Date: 6 Apr 1995 20:40:03 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3m1jj3$9og@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Keywords: dvorak keyboard
Does anyone have a pointer to a dvorak.keyboard map for NS Intel?
Thanks,
Tim Carlin
303 938 2804
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From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: How to setup Foundation and EO in HeaderViewer?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 20:00:03 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3m1h83$m2h@transfer.stratus.com>
How does one go about setting up the EOF 1.1 documentation so that HeaderViewer
can correctly locate everything?
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"I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Q: How to setup Foundation and EO in HeaderViewer?
In-Reply-To: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com's message of 6 Apr 1995 20:00:03 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Apr7161046@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3m1h83$m2h@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:10:46 GMT
Go to Info->Preferences in HeaderViewer.app. Under "Header Files", select
"Add...". Select /NextDeveloper/Headers/foundation/foundation.p. Then under
"Documentation Directories", select "Add...", and then select
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Foundation. Make sure you save your
preferences when done.
BTW - Everyone be aware that there is a bug in NS 3.3 Developer where the
reference manual for the "Application" class in AppKit has the contents of
"ActionCell" The only work-a-round is to get a copy off an older CD-ROM.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registereded NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
(617) 252-0088
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need NS 2.1 WWW browser.
Date: 8 Apr 1995 03:18:34 -0400
Organization: Communications Vir, Site Under Construction.
Message-ID: <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>
Hello,
I have a NeXTstation running NS 2.1 (yeah there's a few, err, one of
us still arround). I was wondering if there is a grahical web browser (source
or binary) that will run on the above configuration.
Or maybe I could get X and Mosaic running for the above configuration.
I checked the ftp sites and I'm having trouble making sure which X software is
for NS2.1. (I'd hate to spend a whole night downloading 11Mb just to find out
it won't run on NS2.1.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Stef
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Seeking Michael McMahon
Date: 07 Apr 1995 20:21:58 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznfmyshwyv56@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Anybody know where Michael McMahon of SHL and SwissBank is these days?
--
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(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: mark@jehu.extern.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fan noise in cube
Date: 7 Apr 1995 19:25:46 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m43jq$8i4@network.ucsd.edu>
Hi,
My cube is really noisy. Is this normal? Is there any way to make it
more quiet?
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trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D.
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From: patron_david@bah.com (David Patron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 3.1 CDROM Installation Disk Problems
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 20:41:25 -0400
Organization: BAH
Message-ID: <patron_david-070495204126@128.229.156.85>
Hello
I have an older version of NS ( 3.1 ). I finally got all the hardware I
needed to install it and the Boot Floppy will not work! It starts up, and
before asking the language it bombs out!...
I have tried this in a Gateway 2000 with an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card, and
IDE drives and on a Compaq Deskpro XE with a DSP SCSI Card (both IDE / SCSI
hd) and they both behave alike.
I looked in the nextanswers section in Next and I only found the 3.2 and
3.3 installation disks images.
Can I still use the 3.2 boot floppy disk to install 3.1?
Or, where can I get the 3.1 boot floppy image?
Thanks a lot
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sunsource & Dancing Bear?
Date: 8 Apr 1995 15:45:00 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3m6b1s$lgh@news.blkbox.com>
Anyone have contact information for Sunsource and Dancing Bear? Thanks
for your help!
Steve
steve@talus.com
From: cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS on Zeos
Date: 8 Apr 1995 18:20:18 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <3m6k52$h8a@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
My department is getting a Zeos Pantera Pentium-75 machine for my
office. Has anybody been able to run NeXTstep on such a machine? Is
there anything I should be sure they get when they order it?
Any information much appreciated
From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HP vs Sun comparison
Date: 08 Apr 1995 02:53:22 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood City, CA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SPETERS.95Apr7195322@samsun.us.oracle.com>
References: <3m1tns$6pq@decaxp.harvard.edu>
In-reply-to: Bob's message of 6 Apr 1995 23:33:16 GMT
In article <3m1tns$6pq@decaxp.harvard.edu> Bob <bob@fas.harvard.edu> writes:
> 0!! 4K
> !! !
> :4!O3
> ! N !
> !!B!
Um, shouldn't a comparison between HP and Sun be more useful than just the
result of "diff /usr/lib/libc.hp /usr/lib/libc.sun"? :-)
Stephen Peters
From: murphybp@fox.nstn.ca (Brian Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Memory Problems
Date: 8 Apr 1995 12:06:28 -0300
Organization: NSTN Inc. ICS/Windows Dialup User
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Message-ID: <3m68pk$6a1@Owl.nstn.ca>
hello
I am having memory problems. I used himem.sys and emm386.exe
from both dos and windows and I still can't get anything to load high.
any suggestions????
Brian Murphy
Bedford Nova Scotia
From: haller@math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Date: 8 Apr 1995 23:51:16 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m77hk$lt6@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Keywords: next, user group, halifax
If there are any NEXTSTEP users, or user groups in Halifax, Nova Scotia,
would you please get in contact with me? I maybe moving there.
Thanks,
--
Kirk Haller
haller@math.wisc.edu
From: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: My Turbo Station don't reboot
Date: 8 Apr 1995 10:04:22 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m5n36$s29@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <1995Apr4.130735.454@ares.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Gery_Divry writes
|
|Hello
|
|My turbo station don't reboot
|if I try to power off or to do a halt ( with the alt comand ~)
|the system freeze ... but nothing else happend
|
|it is the same if ( as root)
|I type 'reboot' or 'reboot -r'
|
|if someone can help me ???
You have some process that is not being killed off properly
by the reboot process. You will have to look around to find
it. It may be an app, or it may be something else you are
running. It will probably not be part of the OS software,
unless it is something you have changed.
In the meantime, till you find the bad process, the good
solution is to (as root) type "reboot -q" This still 'sync's
the disks and makes sure they are clean. Make SURE you have
all files saved though. It reboots WITHOUT "killing" running
processes, and will not care about something that "hangs" reboot
becasue it can not kill it.
From the reboot man page:
SYNOPSIS
/usr/etc/reboot [ -n ] [ -q ] [ boot_command ]
[munch]
-q Reboots quickly and ungracefully, without shutting down
running processes first.
-tfs
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George Mason University (PGP key avail.) Public Affairs
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From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Epson Stylus and black Next. How to make it work?
Date: 8 Apr 1995 11:58:28 -0700
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3m6mck$1pn@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
I have a black NeXT and now I have access to an Epson Stylus. I would
*really* like to use it with the NeXT, but.....
Cabling. The NeXT printer cables don't look like standard PC ones.
Perhaps I am mistaken in suspecting that I need a non-standard cable.
Am I?
Drivers. From scanning the newsgroups it looks like my driver choices
are a) Dots, b) ghostscript, c) JetPilot. IS any of these preferable
over the others, and if so, for which reasons?
I'd really appreciate information and pointers on this one. If there
is general interest in this, I'd be glad to email or post a summary of
responses.
Heikki Ketola
From: ser@discordia (Sean Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Quick Nx586 question
Date: 9 Apr 1995 06:07:34 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3m7tj6$9d7@pith.uoregon.edu>
Hiho.
After having seen NSFIP on my Pentium, a friend of mine has decided to
toss his 286 and buy a Pentium system to run NS on. After much
searching, it has been determined that the best choice (financially)
is a Nx586 based system by Maximus Computers.
Byte says the Nx586 is a pretty good chip, but Computer Shopper claims
that the 586 has no FPU... this sounds dubious; is it true? More
importantly, does anybody know if there would be any problems running
NS on this chip? Having gone through the hell of trying to find
compatable hardware for my own system, I would prefere to know if
anyone has had success with something like this before he goes out and
spends a bunch of money.
Thank you for any help,
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From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printer RipOff??!!
Date: 9 Apr 1995 09:30:53 GMT
Organization: at home
Message-ID: <3m89gd$8p@ramsys.sta.sub.org>
References: <3lv7l5$ac8@news.panix.com>
Hello,
Charles de Montebello writes
>Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but it strikes me as obscene
>that after spending an enormous amount of money on NextStep 3.3
>and Developer 3.2 that I have to PURCHASE a driver and/or program
>to allow me to print on a printer other than a NextStep printer!!!
>I have a Canon Bubblejet and I am considering buying a new printer
>but I know it won't be one of the four or so on the list. How can
>this be? How can I have this much difficulty printing, a feature
>that should be, without question, supported....
Well, if you look at professional RIPs you will notice that they are mostly
made of a unix machine (running the RIP) and a rather dump high quality output
device. With NS you already got the unix machine and the RIP.
Now, to prevent the misuse of a NS system as such a RIP, there exists some
special license agreements with Adobe. If you read your personal license
agreement about NS, you will notice some paragraphs speaking about the
rendering of PS and some limitations like rendering on devices with a higher
resolution as 150DPI.
Therefore, there exists additional licenses for the use of NS as a RIP on
output-devices with higher resolutions (read: printers), you can buy as a
seperate package from NeXT ($75, I think).
The question is: Do you want NeXT to bundle a more expensive PS license with NS
allowing the rendering to printers, therefore increasing the price of NS or
not? Note, that the issue of writing actual printer drivers is totally
unaddressed.
Cheers
Reimer
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From: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Look what I found
Date: 8 Apr 1995 09:38:13 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m5li5$ubh@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <3lv8sr$qc9@news.tamu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Lusty Wench writes
[openstep to ms-win stuff munched]
If you were a MS-Win developer type, by profession and a NS type
by choice, this might be way cool...
Personaly I'd rather have my fingernails pulled out rather
than do a single line of development for the MS-Virus.
But then I am biased to NS as s/w, and against MS on ethical
grounds. (I don't like monopolistic, mercenary type companys
that churn out crap. If ya bronze a turd, it's still a bronze
turd.)
The phrase 'needles in my eyes' also came to mind...
<sigh> just some free association at 5:30 am.
-tfs
--
________________________________________________________________
tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon
George Mason University (PGP key avail.) Public Affairs
I speak for myself, but often claim demonic posession
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Command line multipart mime
Date: 9 Apr 1995 13:21:13 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m8n09$fiu@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Does anybody have a utility that will, from the command line, allow me to
mail a multipart MIME/NeXTMAIL message? I want something similar to:
mimemail -u user@whereverv -s "Hi" <file1> <file2> ...
I especially need this to be received on a NeXT as a MIME/NeXTMAIL
document with the files (they are uuencoded or gziped) having the proper
icons in the body.
Any info sincerely appreciated!
- Steve
--
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Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: NS on Zeos
Message-ID: <eldD6s22H.GG5@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3m6k52$h8a@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 17:03:53 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom17.netcom.com
Chris Swoyer (cswoyer@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu) wrote:
: My department is getting a Zeos Pantera Pentium-75 machine for my
: office. Has anybody been able to run NeXTstep on such a machine? Is
: there anything I should be sure they get when they order it?
Yeah, a scsi cd-rom drive and a graphics card that supports vram.
--
ericd-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Message-ID: <D6n1sH.15n@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:09:52 GMT
In article <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp> Philip J DiFalco
(sxupjd@fnma.com) writes:
>
> I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
> (quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
> But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
> How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the driver
> for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
>
> If you have a solution, please email me.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks
>
> --
> Philip DiFalco, sxupjd@fnma.com
Is this a SCSI-CDROM?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: TIA
Message-ID: <D6sB15.4vo@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <eldD6F1L0.1Lt@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:17:29 GMT
In article <eldD6F1L0.1Lt@netcom.com> eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis) writes:
> Has anyone slipped into a server that is using TIA yet, under NeXTStep?
>
> how is the preformance?
>
>
> --
> ericd....
>
I get up to 1.3kB/s for ftp-ing compressed files on a 14k4 link to NL.net.
Often I only get 1.0kB/s, but that could be because of busy traffic on the
PoP's
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: eggman@barium.enema.com (Justin Blethrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Misc hardware questions
Date: 10 Apr 1995 00:37:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3m9ukc$qc6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I'm seriously considering NS Academic for my P90. If anyone knows of
incompatibilities with following hardware, *please* let me know:
Sony CDU55E "ide" cdrom
Stealth 64 DRAM w/ 2MB RAM
I had a rough time with these two bad-boys when installing linux and X;
is NeXTStep going to put me through hell again?
Todd
tapp@deeptht.armory.com
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1995 01:47:52 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net> <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Steven S. Rosenblum (srosie@umich.edu) wrote:
: In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
: Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
: >Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
: [chomp]
: >There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
: >The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
: >to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
: >if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
: >it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
: >
: Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
: when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
: academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
: purchased 3.3?
Perhaps you haven't been following these newsgroups, but there are a lot
of people who were shocked at how much they had to pay to upgrade their
academic licenses of 3.2 to academic licenses of 3.3. Assuming the
upgrade to 4.0 is similar in price for academic licenses, then it might
be more cost-effective in the long-run to purchase a commercial license
in the first place. (amortized over several versions)
They wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
--
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\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
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U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: jharding@thor.tjhsst.edu (John Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need NS 2.1 WWW browser.
Date: 9 Apr 1995 17:35:05 -0400
Organization: The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m9ju9$l6m@thor.tjhsst.edu>
References: <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>
In article <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>, Stefanos Kiakis <stefanos@Vir.com> wrote:
>Hello,
> I have a NeXTstation running NS 2.1 (yeah there's a few, err, one of
>us still arround). I was wondering if there is a grahical web browser (source
>or binary) that will run on the above configuration.
Join the club. My school's NeXTstation was donated, and they're not willing
to spend the couple hundred to upgrade...
> Or maybe I could get X and Mosaic running for the above configuration.
>I checked the ftp sites and I'm having trouble making sure which X software is
>for NS2.1. (I'd hate to spend a whole night downloading 11Mb just to find out
>it won't run on NS2.1.)
I've managed to get X running on my color NeXTstation, although it's REALLY
buggy. The problem is that the replacement xnext binary for color stations
has some problem in it that all vertical lines are drawn twice as far down
as they should be, and wrap around the screen. Other than that, it works ok
if a bit slow, since it's an older, slower machine. However, Mosaic refusess
to work, because the Xwindows is apparently missing some sort of Motif support
for xshapes, and I haven't been able to find the source code for x and xshapes
to recompile. If you find anything useful, though, drop me a line.
From: beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Quick Nx586 question
Date: 10 Apr 1995 01:58:45 GMT
Organization: not likely...
Message-ID: <3ma3cm$pvn@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca>
References: <3m7tj6$9d7@pith.uoregon.edu>
In article <3m7tj6$9d7@pith.uoregon.edu> ser@discordia (Sean Russell) writes:
[munch of how to dump old 286 for new system]
>
>..... but Computer Shopper claims
>that the 586 has no FPU... this sounds dubious; is it true?
You betcha. No FPU at all. As long as you're doing nothing that
requlres the FPU, then this is a fast chip. Equal to the Pentium.
>More importantly, does anybody know if there would be any problems running
>NS on this chip?
Yup, NS will not run on this chip at all. That is a _big_ problem.
In the HCG's you will note that NS requires a CPU w/ FPU.
NS + Nx586 = big fat doughnut!
>Thank you for any help,
No problem...save the trouble and get a P90. Mine will be here in
2 weeks. Should look good NeXT to the cube!
># Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
># ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and say:
># www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
># Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
Brian
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Date: 10 Apr 1995 02:29:53 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net> <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>
Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about the
academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending that
kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to survive,
then there is one thing they need to do before they sink all their
resources into new widgets and whistles... Get the price down to a
level that mere mortals can afford. If that means offering a version
minus some of the extras (Shakespeare, Websters, etc), then so be it.
But it seems to me that NeXT is well on their way to pricing
themselves out of the market.
Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
Joe
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From: u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: kern_loader: Link failed (?)
Date: 9 Apr 1995 15:13:25 -0500
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3m9f55$84v@mp.cs.niu.edu>
I recently, mysteriously lost many /private directories (and other
things) on an '040 Cube running 3.0. It simply didn't survive a
simple reboot. Interestingly, I had the same thing happen to a slab
running 2.0 and a different brand/size startup disk a few years ago.
Anyway, rather than completely reinstall the OS, I thought I'd repair
the sick disk. I'm almost there, apparently, but the boot process hangs
with:
kern_loader: Link failed
It boots in single-user mode just fine.
What am I still missing that I haven't found.
I was actually on my way to upgrade to 3.3, but I wanted to UPGRADE
rather than do a fresh install.
I appreciate any advice.
-James Phelps, Director
Computer Music Studios
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
preferred email: jphelps@nicemusic2.music.niu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: .snd files conversion
Message-ID: <D6sIJ9.9D1@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:59:32 GMT
In article <D6BDyJ.1wJ@sgc.com> rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman) writes:
> I'm sure I should look in the FAQ, but, I'll just ask all you nice people.
> I want to convert .snd files to Sun .au files, and other formats (.wav ??).
Just change the .snd suffix to .au. Both are in the same format.
Resound3.x might do .wav conversion.
Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Subject: Partitioning IDE disk already in use
Message-ID: <D6t1DK.DpI@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 05:46:31 GMT
Hi,
I know its only a prayer, but it seems it should be possible (in theory) to
partition a disk with existing partitions on it, if you just want to
break an exising partition in two.
I have NS FIP 3.1 and would like to split an IDE partition (NeXT) into
two partitions (NeXT and Linux). What would have to happen is that first
I would have to run a disk defragger to get all files in the existing NeXT
partition in a contiguous area, leaving another contiguous area unused. Then
somehow cut that area off and call it a new partition.
Am I crazy? Could this be done? If so it would save me much heartache.
Thanks for any leads..
-Dean
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was
Message-ID: <1995Apr10.011501.47053@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@child (Michael Emmel)
Date: 10 Apr 95 01:15:00 MDT
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>
<3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com> <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) wrote:
>Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would
merely
>>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic
purchaser
>>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade.
Whiners.
>Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about
the
>academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
>but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
>but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending
that
>kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to
survive,
<munch>
>Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
>
Well there is one good thing about NEXT pricing scheme we don't have
to worry about them raising prices for the forseable future or there
future anyway :)
Mike
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 10 Apr 1995 04:15:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3mabci$mj6@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
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news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
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the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
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news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp://ftp.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/sci-tools/eduStep
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeX
Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:09:06 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3mbali$dbu@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@syne
In article <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>,
Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>Steven S. Rosenblum (srosie@umich.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
>: Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>: >Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
>: [chomp]
>: >There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
>: >The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
>: >to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
>: >if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
>: >it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
>: >
>: Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
>: when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
>: academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
>: purchased 3.3?
>
>Perhaps you haven't been following these newsgroups, but there are a lot
>of people who were shocked at how much they had to pay to upgrade their
>academic licenses of 3.2 to academic licenses of 3.3. Assuming the
>upgrade to 4.0 is similar in price for academic licenses, then it might
>be more cost-effective in the long-run to purchase a commercial license
>in the first place. (amortized over several versions)
>
>They wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
>
I am an academic NeXT user, and I'm not complaining. I know a bargain when I
see one.
Like most contexts, the few whiners are visible (audible?), but the huge number
of satisfied, happy campers just go about their business.
I'd offer more, but I have a lecture and handouts to prepare (using OpenWrite,
Create, EquationBuilder, Diagram!, and SciPlot.
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
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From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeX
Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:14:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3mbavt$dcr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3l70q2$hgr@last
In article <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
>
>
>Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about the
>academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
>but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
>but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending that
>kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to survive,
>then there is one thing they need to do before they sink all their
>resources into new widgets and whistles... Get the price down to a
>level that mere mortals can afford. If that means offering a version
>minus some of the extras (Shakespeare, Websters, etc), then so be it.
>But it seems to me that NeXT is well on their way to pricing
>themselves out of the market.
>
>Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
>Joe
I don't agree. You want performance, you pay for it. Here at OSU, a huge
number of us use high-end PCs, Suns, HPs, SGIs, and Sparcs. So what's the beef
with hardware prices? In academia, the kind of compute power needed for
research easily falls within NeXTs requirement specs.
Do some relevant research, find some funding, and buy what you need (and want)!
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus and black Next. How to make it work?
In-Reply-To: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu's message of 8 Apr 1995 11:58:28 -0700
To: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Apr8174524@freedom.princeton.edu>
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 21:45:24 GMT
In article <3m6mck$1pn@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes:
I have a black NeXT and now I have access to an Epson Stylus. I would
*really* like to use it with the NeXT, but.....
Cabling. The NeXT printer cables don't look like standard PC ones.
Perhaps I am mistaken in suspecting that I need a non-standard cable.
Am I?
No, you are not.
Drivers. From scanning the newsgroups it looks like my driver choices
are a) Dots, b) ghostscript, c) JetPilot. IS any of these preferable
over the others, and if so, for which reasons?
I've used both JetPilot and Dots with my Epson Stylus Color and there
is no question in my mind that JetPilot is better. The most important
reason is that Dots is just plain awful at rendering color images. In
particular at 720x720 dpi (using the specially coated paper), all my
attempts to print with Dots have result in a paper literally soaking
wet with ink emerging. But even at lower resolutions prints of color
images are completely unrecognizable. JetPilot on the other hand
produces (albeit slowly) color prints close to the photographic
quality advertised by Epson as possible with the Stylus Color. Both
JetPilot and Dots.app work OK for printout of text. Apart from that
JetPilot seems to integrate into the NS environment less obtrusively.
My only problem with it are somewhat ill chosen default settings for
the printer parameters. But that is relatively easily fixed by
editing a few lines in the printer description file.
I've not tried ghostscript.
Carl Edman
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opener.app & PGP
Date: 10 Apr 1995 01:50:28 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ma2t4$mpf@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3lv3b8$nqb@paladin.american.edu>
tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) writes:
> I am just curious as to why you would want to use Opener.app. As
> a "Front End" to pgp? If that is what you want, a NeXT like way
> to verify sigs and all that stuff, then I suggest getting
> TickleServices and the PGP service for it. If you used Opener.app
> wouldn't you have to copy all the text to a new document and then
> drag that file to Opener.app?
You wouldn't use Opener.app for verifying signatures on email.
You'd use it to handle files with a ".pgp" suffix. So if you
had some extremely sensitive document that you wouldn't what
*anyone* to see (such as "100 reasons why I like MS-Windows"),
you would encode that document (which might be written in
WriteUp, Pages, WordPerfect, or anything else) into a new
file using PGP. Then you wouldn't have to worry so much about
people getting their handles on that file -- such as if you're
keeping backups of that file. Or if the file is on an NFS
server, and you're worried that someone with a network sniffer
will see the text going by on the way to your machine.
So, yeah, you'd double-click on the .pgp file, and Opener would
ask for your PGP password. It'd then copy the pgp file into
/tmp (or somewhere else), decode the file, then open that file
in whatever application wrote it.
The trick would be in saving modifications, and getting those back
into the .pgp-version of the file. Perhaps there are programs out
there which could do the kind of thing I'm picturing, as all I've
worked with is CryptorBundle and the PGP services. The PGP services
(which are plug-in's for TickleServices) are very useful too, but
I don't think they are the right interface for this kind of usage.
They are great for other uses of PGP, of course.
--
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From: u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Ext. SCSI causing filesystem damage?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 19:16:19 -0500
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3mchoj$gtj@mp.cs.niu.edu>
My kern_loader error msgs while booting, that I reported
a few days ago, apparently stemmed from some weird problem
caused by attaching my new SCSI HD to my Cube ('040, 3.0
and 3.3). I installed a brand new OS, 3.3, still unaware of
any problem my new HD was causing, then attached my new drive and
tried to boot only to have the same thing happen again:
mach_init failed, trying init
init failed
system hangs ...
The disk was now toast ... no fsck would repair it.
It's the disk (ST 31200). But why? I've installed countless
drives and have never even heard of this! Termination problems
shouldn't cause irreparable file system damage, nor should some SCSI
ID confusion.
Ideas?
-James Phelps, Director
Computer Music Studios
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
P.S. I tried all this while using an OD boot disk. The same error
messages occurred, but the OD WAS repaired via fsck!?!? No such luck
with the internal startup disk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Misc hardware questions
Message-ID: <jpanicoD6uBys.2FA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3m9ukc$qc6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:32:52 GMT
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Justin Blethrow (eggman@barium.enema.com) wrote:
: I'm seriously considering NS Academic for my P90. If anyone knows of
: incompatibilities with following hardware, *please* let me know:
: Sony CDU55E "ide" cdrom
Last I checked NS installation required a SCSI CD-ROM drive.
: Stealth 64 DRAM w/ 2MB RAM
This card works fine.
You can get the NSI hardware compatability guide from the NeXTanswers
mail-bot. It is very extensive.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
From: steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Misc hardware questions
Date: 11 Apr 1995 14:39:57 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3me4bt$ghd@larry.rice.edu>
References: <3m9ukc$qc6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3m9ukc$qc6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> eggman@barium.enema.com (Justin
Blethrow) writes:
> I'm seriously considering NS Academic for my P90. If anyone knows of
> incompatibilities with following hardware, *please* let me know:
>
> Sony CDU55E "ide" cdrom
> Stealth 64 DRAM w/ 2MB RAM
>
> I had a rough time with these two bad-boys when installing linux and X;
> is NeXTStep going to put me through hell again?
>
> Todd
> tapp@deeptht.armory.com
At the moment you can't do it. The stealth 64 VRAM is supported. The DRAM
version is scheduled to be released this quarter (although it was also
scheduled for release LAST quarter). Also, IDE cdrom drives aren't supported
yet. Again, NeXT says they're working on one. At the moment you need a SCSI
cdrom for installation.
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From: sjautomo@athena.mit.edu (John Automo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NS Driver for HP lAser 4si
Date: 10 Apr 1995 17:21:40 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3mbpf5$kl7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
HI, I have a problem. Currently we are running NS version 3.2 and when
I tried to print to HP Laser 4si, but nothing happened. When I check
I didn't see that I had the driver for this particular printer.
Can somebody tell me what I should do ?
John
From: steveh@sashimi.wwa.com (Steven M. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:17:25 -0500
Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicago Area Internet Services 312-282-8605 708-367-1871
Message-ID: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Keywords: news, newsgrazer
Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
Thanks to all who reply.
Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Date: 10 Apr 1995 21:18:45 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3mc7bl$4sr@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp> <136444@cup.portal.com>
>I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
>(quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
>But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
>How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the driver
>for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
Not only must it be SCSI, but it must be a supported SCSI controller, and
it must be using the same IRQ NS is expecting it to. For example, I had a
card based on the Adaptec AIC6X60 chip (which is supported), and even *it*
didn't work. I had to get a new SCSI controller. On top of this, for
reasons beyond my control I had to use IRQ 10 for the SCSI controller, but
NS insisted on looking for it at IRQ 11. I suspect the other drivers are
set up the same way.
--
# Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
# ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and ask:
# www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
# Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE when?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 17:09:25 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mc6q6$1gb@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3l6rav$k4q@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <D656sM.21F@localhost.com> <3lhjr8$guu@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
frantziu@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) writes:
>mine works at a big PC discounter, where he had the chance to
>directly compare SCSI and E-IDE, and came to the result that
>some E-IDE solutions can even be _faster_ than more expensive
>high end SCSI solutions.
These results probably don't hold for NS, because EIDE and IDE require the CPU
to help act as part of the controller, where SCSI controllers have DMA and on
board processors that offload the main CPU. Thus on a Pentium system that is
being multi-processed and multi-user'd, overall system throughput will be much
worse on an IDE setup as compared to a SCSI setup.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Envelope Feeder -- HP LJ 4MPlus (Need ppd)
Message-ID: <1995Apr11.162504.1488@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:25:04 GMT
I have a 4MPlus which has the powered envelop feeder. I get errors when I
try to use it. I have a 4m with the same which works fine. If you have
been able to get this to work, please contact me. Also, if you needed a
different PPD than ones avaiable in NEXTSTEP, please email it to me.
I get an offending error command. All other printing works fine fromt hsi
printer.
THanks
WEs
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: x86, Sun, and HP comparisons
In-Reply-To: Bob's message of 12 Apr 1995 00:14:40 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Apr12101948@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <3mf61g$lnn@decaxp.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:19:48 GMT
In article <3mf61g$lnn@decaxp.harvard.edu> Bob <bob@fas.harvard.edu> writes:
> Here are configurations of systems at about the
> same price level. The Sun systems are student
> discount prices, I assume that Sun clones can be
> bought at about the same prices. The x86 system
> assumes each component is bought separately
> through mail order. The HP systems are prices
> quoted directly from HP. Are there distributors
> that sell HPs at lower prices?
>
> Please comment on the differences of performance
> when running NEXTSTEP applications on these systems.
>
>
> $5300
> SPARCstation 5/70 17! color, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
> Pentium 100MHz motherboard PCI w/EISA (or VLB)slots
> 256K cache, 32MB RAM, 1GB SCSI hard drive, 2940
> Adaptec, Ethernet card, NEC 17XP monitor (or
> Nanao T2-17), Number Nine 128 Imagine graphics
> card (or ELSA).
>
>
> $7600
> SPARCstation 20/50 17! TurboGX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
> SPARCstation 20/50 17! 4MB SX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
> SPARCstation 5/85 17! Color, 64MB, 1GB hard drive
> Pentium - same as above but with 112MB RAM
>
>
> $10,800
> SPARCstation 20/71 17! TurboGX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
> HP 9000 715/64 17! monitor, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
>
>
> $14,000
> SPARCstation 20/71 17! ZX graphics, 32MB, 1GB
> HP 9000 715/80 17! monitor, 32MB, 1GB
Sorry for replying here, but email bounces with "User unknown".
I have a P90 system equivalent to the one you list, but with 48 MB RAM,
and it cost $5000. Thus I think you should be able to shave some off the
price you list. Have you asked one of the companies that deliver
NS-ready Intel systems (e.g. eCesys or Apache) to put a system
together for you? That way you don't have to deal with getting and
assembling everything.
As for performance, my P90 system is roughly equivalent to a Sparc 20/51
running Solaris for my types of tasks (scientific simulations). I have
actually found that the Spec92 marks give a good indication for these
purposes.
For these purposes then, the Intel-bases systems give the best
price/performance ratio by far. The only reason I would go with HP would
be that I needed a single cpu that was really fast for some particular
task. Mostly I can run jobs on many machines instead, though, and since
I can get several Pentium based machines for the price of a single HP...
This argument hardly works for Sparc as their fastest cpu is hardly any
faster than a Pentium. Thus I can only imagine buying one if I
previously had Sun equipment and could use their great upgrade prices.
Of course, the performance relationships change greatly depending on
what you do. Both Sparc and HP are relatively better when lots of
floating point are involved, but it isn't that simple. The biggest
differences seem to be in cache. A Sparc/HP has much better
sequential memory access than a Pentium. Thus an ideal task for a
Sparc/HP is inverting a large matrix, or multiplying vectors. On the
other hand, if you want to generate lots of pseudo-randoms, or do lots of
function calls, a Pentium does a lot better. Also, programs that almost
only use integer ops, like Mathematica, will do better on a Pentium.
Thus if you are mostly concerned about speed for simulation/numerical
work, I would recommend trying your code on various machines. In this
context I should also mention that compilers often make as great a
difference as cpus.
Note that this is different from NS specific stuff (like drawing lots of
Display PostScript), which I personally don't care about (as long as it
is not annoying, but none of the systems you mention are likely to be
that slow).
A final recommendation is to get as much RAM as you can afford. 32 is
definitely minimum.
-Magnus
P.S. Upon looking again at your list I want to make two further comments.
First, I think you would be hard pressed to find anything relevant a
Sparc 5/85 did as fast as a P100. A Sparc 20 will do lots of things
faster, and lots slower, but a Sparc 5/85 should be slower at almost
everything. This is not to say that they are not good machines, but
they should compete with 486's...
Second, have you looked at the HP 712 (Gecko) series as well? With
academic discounts, you should be able to get a 712/80 for less than 10k.
---
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The University of Chicago
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From: ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell)
Subject: Question: extra carriage returns added by NeXT mailer???
Message-ID: <1995Apr11.132918.25633@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:29:18 GMT
I've been having a little problem sending email from my NeXT machines
for years, and I can't tell if the trouble is with my sendmail.cf or if
it is an actual NeXT mailer bug (or "feature").
I hope and pray that someone out there
is familiar with the following problem:
When there are blank spaces at the ends of lines of text,
i.e. spaces between the final text character of the line
and the line's actual carriage return,
the last one of those extra spaces gets converted
to a carriage return when the file is emailed.
"Hello there humans. ^J"
"I hope you are fine. ^J"
gets converted to
"Hello there humans. ^J"
"^J"
"I hope you are fine. ^J"
"^J"
This is torturous for emailing things like TeX files,
in which extra carriage returns have all too much meaning.
I have not yet found the time and energy to buy the O'Reilly "sendmail"
book and learn how to rewrite my sendmail.cf file from scratch.
It might just be a one-line problem in there, or maybe what I've been
talking about is a NeXT mailer "feature" that someone out there who
knows what I'm talking about can tell me how to fix.
I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.
If all this sounds familiar, please send email!
-- Evan Reidell (ereidell@mit.edu)
From: klaus Kunze <klaus@chemlab.unm.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printer RipOff??!!
Date: 11 Apr 1995 19:17:49 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mekkt$cuq@lynx.unm.edu>
References: <D6Mq1B.C6D@eskimo.com>
Marc Salvatori writes
> Charles de Montebello (clannes@panix.com) wrote:
> : Maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive but it strikes me as obscene
> : that after spending an enormous amount of money on NextStep 3.3 and
> : Developer 3.2 that I have to PURCHASE a driver and/or program to
> : allow me to print on a printer other than a NextStep printer!!! I
> : have a Canon Bubblejet and I am considering buying a new printer
> : but I know it won't be one of the four or so on the list. How can
> : this be? How can I have this much difficulty printing, a feature
> : that should be, without question, supported....
>
> I don't know what's on the list, but my HP1200C/PS works like a charm.
I got the file I needed from ftp.adobe.com.
>
> --
> >< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there!
><
> >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images
><
Our HP1200C/PS works very nice as well. Just recently I set it up using
JetDirectDriver (ethernet connection to the NeXT) from the archive.
Klaus
---------
Klaus Kunze <klaus@chemlab.unm.edu> (NeXT Mail ok)
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: terminal font?
Date: 12 Apr 1995 04:04:17 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mfjg1$433@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <eldD6w4nH.Mvz@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <eldD6w4nH.Mvz@netcom.com> eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis) writes:
}~
}~ How can I change the font in my terminal shell window?
With the font panel. Font>FontPanel or Command-t
To change the DEFAULT font for Terminal.app, use Info>Preferences
set the pull-down to 'Window' and press the 'SET' button. Then
select the font you want in the Font panel and press the 'Set Default'
button on the preferences panel.
Bruce
+-+
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We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
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NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov (Mark D. Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Question: extra carriage returns added by NeXT mailer???
Date: 11 Apr 1995 16:23:05 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3meada$le4@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <1995Apr11.132918.25633@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1995Apr11.132918.25633@news.media.mit.edu>
ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
>
> I've been having a little problem sending email from my NeXT machines
> for years, and I can't tell if the trouble is with my sendmail.cf or if
> it is an actual NeXT mailer bug (or "feature").
> I hope and pray that someone out there
> is familiar with the following problem:
It is NeXT's Mail.app that is the culprit. They finally fixed it
in 3.3 so upgrading is your best bet. The annoying thing is that
Mail.app undoes this for mail from other Mail.app's (using some
awful hack by looking for a NeXT-specific line in the header). If
you send command line mail you don't have this problem.
> This is torturous for emailing things like TeX files,
> in which extra carriage returns have all too much meaning.
Yup. As a system admin for the Los Alamos Physics preprint archives
(http://xxx.lanl.gov/), I see this problem about once a month
usually signalled by about 5 consecutive replaces by the author. It
has just about always been the result of using Mail.app.
> I have not yet found the time and energy to buy the O'Reilly "sendmail"
> book and learn how to rewrite my sendmail.cf file from scratch.
Won't help here I think.
> It might just be a one-line problem in there, or maybe what I've been
> talking about is a NeXT mailer "feature" that someone out there who
> knows what I'm talking about can tell me how to fix.
> I'm running NS3.2 on black hardware.
> If all this sounds familiar, please send email!
Use command line mail or upgrade to 3.3.
Cheers,
Mark
From: Bob <bob@fas.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: x86, Sun, and HP comparisons
Date: 12 Apr 1995 00:14:40 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mf61g$lnn@decaxp.harvard.edu>
Here are configurations of systems at about the
same price level. The Sun systems are student
discount prices, I assume that Sun clones can be
bought at about the same prices. The x86 system
assumes each component is bought separately
through mail order. The HP systems are prices
quoted directly from HP. Are there distributors
that sell HPs at lower prices?
Please comment on the differences of performance
when running NEXTSTEP applications on these systems.
$5300
SPARCstation 5/70 17! color, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
Pentium 100MHz motherboard PCI w/EISA (or VLB)slots
256K cache, 32MB RAM, 1GB SCSI hard drive, 2940
Adaptec, Ethernet card, NEC 17XP monitor (or
Nanao T2-17), Number Nine 128 Imagine graphics
card (or ELSA).
$7600
SPARCstation 20/50 17! TurboGX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
SPARCstation 20/50 17! 4MB SX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
SPARCstation 5/85 17! Color, 64MB, 1GB hard drive
Pentium - same as above but with 112MB RAM
$10,800
SPARCstation 20/71 17! TurboGX, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
HP 9000 715/64 17! monitor, 32MB, 1GB hard drive
$14,000
SPARCstation 20/71 17! ZX graphics, 32MB, 1GB
HP 9000 715/80 17! monitor, 32MB, 1GB
From: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca (John Nicol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Frontend for refdbms
Date: 13 Apr 1995 01:50:44 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3mi01k$9je@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Keywords: refdbms
Is there a NEXTSTEP frontend for Refdbms 3 - a distributed bibliographic
database system?
John Nicol
School of Audiology and Speech Sciences
University of British Columbia
From: peter@cse.ucsc.edu (Hans-Peter Dommel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Q: modem cable for 68040 cube
Date: 13 Apr 1995 05:17:45 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
Message-ID: <3mic5p$77l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I would appreciate any input on sources/types of
modem cables to use with a 68040 cube. I have a
Hayes compatible pocket modem at home, with a
weird 9-pin Minidin. All cables that I tried
to connect the 8pin serial port to that modem
failed. With kermit and an activated port the
modem lights reflect typing on the keyboard
but I cannot dial out.
What modems, cables and software do you guys out
there use for that cube? I want to get this thing
connected ASAP and ideally use a PPP connection.
Thanks a lot for any hint!
Peter
_______________________________________________
peter@cse.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Netsurfer Announces Netsurfer For NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D6uy08.974@ex-nihilo.com>
Sender: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: ex nihilo, inc.
References: <3lujsm$1cc@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 06:28:55 GMT
In article <3lujsm$1cc@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
writes:
> In comp.sys.next.announce article <3lsa83$gv4@digifix.digifix.com>
> jrussell@netsurfer.com writes:
> [munch]
>
> }~ In mid-1995, Netsurfer will ship an add-on to Netsurfer, Netsurfer
> }~ News(tm), that provides a feature-rich interface for reading and
> }~ posting both plain-text and multimedia enriched (MIME) Internet
> }~ (USENET) news articles. Netsurfer News adds seamless news reading
> }~ capability to Netsurfer's simple, easy-to-use graphical interface.
> [munch]
>
> Now WHY would anyone write a MIME capable Newsbrowser without also
> including Newsgrazer format - at least for reading - which was so
> well planned and reasonably well implemented by Jayson Adams in its
> freeware versions?
I don't know about the way you read BRUCE, but I see NOWHERE in this announcement the
mention of lack of support for NG format.
How about waiting for the product to come out before flaming it? Got nothing better else
to do ha?
---
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
From: tseg@access3.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,dc.jobs
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXTStep, ObjectiveC, OOD, Local Telephone,; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 11 Apr 1995 21:20:34 -0400
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., Mt. Airy, MD USA.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3mf9t2$ijq@access3.digex.net>
Summary: Longterm contract, Excellent Job Environment
Keywords: SS5, SONET, DMS-100
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXTStep
4+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is preferred
6+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!eld
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: terminal font?
Message-ID: <eldD6w4nH.Mvz@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:50:04 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom8.netcom.com
How can I change the font in my terminal shell window?
thanks
ed
--
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Video Performance under NS-3.3
Date: 11 Apr 1995 19:29:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mela1$1sv@usenet.rpi.edu>
When I upgraded my DECpc XL560 to NeXTSTEP User release 3.3, the
performance of video became noticably worse. I have a miroCrystal
32S PCI card, and had been running at 32-bit color (which is 8 bits
each of RG&B). Doing things like dragging windows around on the
screen was unquestionably slower than in NS-3.2.
For awhile, I addressed this by switching my configuration down to
16-bit color (which is 5 bits each of RG&B), and the performance
wasn't bad. In fact, I have the impression that 16-bit color was
faster under NS-3.3 than it was under NS-3.2 (but that could very
well be my imagination, as I rarely used 16-bit with NS-3.2).
I started working with photo CD images (which are 32-bit color)
while my config was set for 32-bit color, and noticed that video
performance -- as indicated by the speed of dragging windows
around -- did not seem bad at all. So I popped up a 32-bit color
image in TIFFany II. Sure enough, the window for that image moved
around just fine when it was displayed as 2-bit grey, 8-bit grey,
or 24-bit RGB. It was much slower when displayed as 12-bit RGB.
(TIFFany II has an option where you can force the bit-depth of the
window used to display a given image).
So then I created a "Compose" window in Mail.app. Dragged it around
a little bit. Dropped in a 24-bit color tiff. Dragged the window
around some more. The window with the tiff in it definitely moves
around smoother and quicker than it did without the image.
Next I dug thru some old usenet articles, and noticed a discussion
of the dwrite default called "NXWindowDepthLimit". I tried the
command:
dwrite Librarian NXWindowDepthLimit TestTwentyFourBitRGB
which (if I'm reading it right) should have forced windows in
Digital Librarian to come up in 24-bit color-depth. Apparently
this was not true though, as the performance of dragging the
windows around did not change. I suspect it's working the way
it's supposed to, it's just not the way I *want* it to... :-)
However, I then tried:
dwrite Librarian NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray
which forces DL windows to never be higher than 8-bit greyscale.
This noticably speeds up the "drag-ability" of Digital librarian
windows, and in the case of Digital Librarian I don't really mind
losing the color information.
I'd like to do something to force Workspace windows to go up to
24-bit color, since I'd like those windows to move around faster
but I don't want to drop back to 8-bit greyscale for them. I
tried using a 24-bit color image for a .dir.tiff icon, but that
didn't seem to do the trick. The interesting thing is that the
Inspector panel (if you do a command-1) does move around quite
nicely. If I have a fileviewer opened up to the directory with
the 32-bit .dir.tiff, and size that viewer to about the same
size as the inspector panel, one might expect the panel and the
file-viewer to have similar "drag-speeds". However, the inspector
panel performs noticably better, even though both the panel and
the window are (presumably) displaying the same tiff image. It
does appear that the panel is displaying the icon at 24-bit color,
while it looks like the file-viewer is determined to limit the
bit depth to 12-bit.
I don't understand why 24-bit color windows move about so much
faster than 12-bit windows when my video mode is set to 24-bit
color, but that does seem to be true and I thought I'd pass
along these observations. Ideally I'd like to get better
performance while setup with 24-bit color without doing any
of these games, of course!
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sequencing Software
Date: 13 Apr 1995 14:42:52 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3mjd9c$cbr@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Is there a MIDI sequencer out there for the NeXT, either free or a pay
product?? I am running on black hardware. Also, how do you hook up said
black box to a MIDI device?? I have MIDI to MIDI cables, but I think I
remember hearing that it would run out of a serial port on the NeXT. Is
there a converter, or a serial to MIDI cable??
Thanks in advance,
MTN
From: emstech@sound.music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 13 Apr 1995 15:53:02 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3mjhcu$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Steven M. Hoffman (steveh@sashimi.wwa.com) wrote:
: Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
: but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
: news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
: Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
: Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
: to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
: are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
: Thanks to all who reply.
: Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
Forget "newsgrazer" use "tin" .. doesn't have Next interface but it's perfect!
;-)
--
Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Music Faculty, Mcgill University Voice: (514) 398-4552
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Flying Toasters backspace module
Message-ID: <D6znL3.sE@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:31:51 GMT
I am not looking for one, but I wondered if someone could explain the legal
status of these. There used to be one and it then turned unreadable on the
servers. I remember something about copyright problems with respect to the
flying toasters (an LP cover?)
Anyway, suppose I have a flying toasters module, could I legally offer it on
the net?
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!rigel.oac.uci.edu!eaeu899
From: Min-Tzer Lay <eaeu899@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS NIP Graphics Performance
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 02:36:29 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950413023300.29555B-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know how to tell the performance of a graphics card from
DOS/Windows benchmarks say from PC magazines?
My guess is that windows performance ratings are not accurate under NS
NIP, but what about DOS?
From: destewar@samar.usc.edu (GodEmperor23)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXT HARDWARE QUESTIONS
Date: 13 Apr 1995 21:29:29 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: destewar@samar.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu>
I woke up a week ago and suddenly wanted to own a NeXT. I
guess I have a thing for out-of-manufacture H/W--I already
own two Amigas.
I looked into them a few years ago, but don't have any of the
literature anymore and after perusing the NeXT related ngs
and web pages I haven't found much info to help me
decide what hardware to get. I'm looking for something
with the following specs and uses:
Color
fast---68040
floppy
Large capacity HD
large monitor [full page]
DTP
Word Processing
Book/large document production
Clip Art
Scanning artwork
slavic font capability--hopfully port my Mac/PC/Windoze
fonts
MIDI-- not really important, but would be nice
What is the optimal hardware, software, and peripheral setup
I should build and how much should it cost.
TIA,
David
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From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 13 Apr 1995 23:53:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Greetings NeXT community,
I've been a happy owner of white hardware for a little over a year now, but
I've recently been interested in the original NeXT black hardware. The
problem is that I don't know too much about it, so I have a few questions:
1. Do all of the NeXT machines (Cubes, NeXTstations, Slabs ...) have the
56001 DSP, microphone and sound capabilities; or is it just the later
models? Also, do any of the NeXT machines have MIDI capabilities built
in, and if so, is there any sequencing software available?
2. Are the Cubes only equipped to handle monochrome, or can they handle
color screens as well?
3. If I were to get an upgraded 25 MHz '040 in a Cube, would it perform
equally as well as say a 25 MHz '040 NeXTstation or Slab?
4. As far as video speed goes, how does black hardware rate in video
performance to Intel hardware (I'm mainly talking about moving windows
and stuff)?
Thanks for any help,
-Faizel
--
Faizel Dakri
faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Flying Toasters backspace module
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D6znL3.sE@RnA.NL>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:51:32 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.085132.26790@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D6znL3.sE@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes:
> I am not looking for one, but I wondered if someone could explain the
legal
> status of these. There used to be one and it then turned unreadable on
the
> servers. I remember something about copyright problems with respect to
the
> flying toasters (an LP cover?)
>
> Anyway, suppose I have a flying toasters module, could I legally offer
it on
> the net?
It was withdrawn at the request of the copyright owners, on the basis that
they claimed the images used were direct copies of those used in the Mac
version.
If you were to use your own images, then you might not fall foul of that,
but I suspect that a sufficiently close approach to the concept would
still have grounds for breach of copyright.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Flying Toasters backspace module
Date: 14 Apr 1995 14:34:04 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr14103404@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <D6znL3.sE@RnA.NL>
In-reply-to: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL's message of Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:31:51 GMT
<Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL> writes:
>I am not looking for one, but I wondered if someone could explain the legal
>status of these. There used to be one and it then turned unreadable on the
>servers. I remember something about copyright problems with respect to the
>flying toasters (an LP cover?)
>Anyway, suppose I have a flying toasters module, could I legally offer it on
>the net?
I believe that flying toasters are trademarks of AfterDark, or some
other screensaver maker. You can do what you've asked, but you open
yourself up to possible lawsuit. This is why the original one for
BackSpace was removed.
- db
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: Leon Michel von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 14 Apr 1995 17:30:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3mmbga$4ci@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri) wrote:
>
> Greetings NeXT community,
>
> I've been a happy owner of white hardware for a little over a year now, but
> I've recently been interested in the original NeXT black hardware. The
> problem is that I don't know too much about it, so I have a few questions:
>
> 1. Do all of the NeXT machines (Cubes, NeXTstations, Slabs ...) have the
> 56001 DSP, microphone and sound capabilities; or is it just the later
> models? Also, do any of the NeXT machines have MIDI capabilities built
> in, and if so, is there any sequencing software available?
>
> 2. Are the Cubes only equipped to handle monochrome, or can they handle
> color screens as well?
>
> 3. If I were to get an upgraded 25 MHz '040 in a Cube, would it perform
> equally as well as say a 25 MHz '040 NeXTstation or Slab?
>
> 4. As far as video speed goes, how does black hardware rate in video
> performance to Intel hardware (I'm mainly talking about moving windows
> and stuff)?
>
Hello fellow Longhorn!
1. All NeXT hardware has the built-in DSP, microphone, and sound.
As far as the MIDI stuff goes, see if anyone responds to
Mark Tyler Neher <mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com>, who has
asked the same question.
2. The '040 cubes should handle color.
3. An '040 cube should perform just as well as an '040 slab, since
the only essential difference as far as I know is that the cube
has expansion slots. (It also usu. has more memory and disk space.)
4. The black hardware was leading edge for its time, and still has
a lot of cool features. But compared to white Pentium hardware
or a fast 486, it's just plain slower. Windowing performance
is still quite acceptable, though. I've never had problems on
my monochrome NeXTstation, and color slabs I've used only slow
down with really huge color images. Just make sure you get at
least 16 MB of RAM.
I'd suggest checking out comp.sys.next.marketplace for prices.
Feel free to email with more questions, and also to find out about
the Austin NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Users Group.
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: How did you unravel those IRS tax forms?
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.144042.2731@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:40:42 GMT
I haven't been able to look up the IRS Web pages myself, but I understand
that the Postscript tax forms available from there are actually DOS .EXE
files. This of course means they are compressed, self-extracting,
executable (under DOS) files. Those of you who downloaded and used these
forms under NeXTSTEP: how did you handle the .EXE format? Is there a Unix
utility that I don't know about which handles .EXE?
Denise (whose tax return is done and who isn't happy with the bottom line)
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9504141322.AA02634@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:51:52 -0400
Subject: I hate to ask this, but....
I have a friend who recently acquired a system running Windows 3.1,
including its so-called word-processor Works (or WindowWorks, or
something like that).
This friend needs to be able to open these files in WordPerfect on
the NeXT (black). Is there some program available to do such a
transfer?
Many thanks
Sorry for mentioning the ugly "W" word
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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From: toni@usenix.org (Toni Veglia)
Subject: USENIX 1996 Technical Conference
Message-ID: <D71FKI.G3u@usenix.org>
Organization: USENIX Association, Berkeley, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:33:54 GMT
ANNOUCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
USENIX 1996 TECHNICAL CONFERENCE
January 22-26, 1996, San Diego, CA
Wanted: Papers for the 1996 USENIX Technical Conference.
Besides papers on hot application topics such as privacy,
cryptography, user interface toolkits, nomadic and wireless
computing, there will be a special focus on operating systems
practice and experience. OS structure, organization, support for
embedded systems, real time and multimedia, and interaction with
hardware architecture are only a few of the topics we'd like to
see covered.
=================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: Printer for NeXTSTEP Machines?
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.185417.8963@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:54:17 GMT
Hi!
I recently received my first NeXTSTEP (Intel-based) machines.
I currently have them configured to print to our Novell network
printer, but I can't print anything from NeXTSTEP; only from
SoftPC. (Example: I can print a Word document from SPC, but
not an Edit file from NS.) Any suggestions on this problem?
Now, the real reason for this post. My supervisor has given me
permission to order a printer for my machine. My vendor has
told me that I can use any PostScript printer. Is this true?
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good laser printer
for NeXTSTEP? And can this printer be networked (I will have
10 machines using this printer after a while.)?
I've looked into an HP LaserJet 4 Plus, with PostScript...
6 MB RAM, 12 ppm. Any comments? :)
Thanks bunches! Look forward to hearing what you suggest!
Post or email, doesn't matter!
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
The Library of Virginia
Richmond, VA
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 15 Apr 1995 00:25:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
In article <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>,
David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>To handle colour on a Cube requires acquiring a NeXTDimension Board.
Watch out because the ND isn't compatible with some software.
The system is too specialized for it to be truly useful unless
you're doing custom apps. If anyone can prove me wrong, please
do because I would love to get one if I'm convinced.
>>4. how does black hardware rate in video
>> performance to Intel hardware (I'm mainly talking about moving windows
>> and stuff)?
>The original black hardware makes the Intel hardware look pretty sick when it
>comes to video performance.
Personally, I think black hardware, although elegant, are
reaching the end of their useful cycle when it comes to the
types of software that are becoming more commonplace these
days. Witness the posts of how DoomII.app runs abysmally
slow on black hardware. Too bad the '060 "upgrades" will
never be available--though I do understand why not from a
manufacturer's point of view.
Ken
still love my black cube--it will be a classic.
--
Ken Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street MS 20CG
Computing & Technology Services Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Client/Server Engineering 1.415.857.3230 FAX 1.415.857.5518
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Expect 5.16 under 3.2?
Date: 15 Apr 1995 00:24:53 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznfczyvrjgyv@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Anybody running Expect under 3.2 without posix?
I remember compiling this up under 3.0 a long time ago and it had no
problems with posix then. Now the codes ladened with WNOHANG and
waitpid :-(
--
"Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: ser@cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT HARDWARE QUESTIONS
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:37:18 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3mmpue$95@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu>
In article <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu> destewar@samar.usc.edu
(GodEmperor23) writes:
> I woke up a week ago and suddenly wanted to own a NeXT. I
> guess I have a thing for out-of-manufacture H/W--I already
> own two Amigas.
I, too, own two Amigas and a NS machine. In my case, I sold my soul and
bought a Pentium-based computer. I had two reasons for doing this: (1)
because they are more cost efficient. For computers that aren't being
made anymore, Black hardware is still very expensive for what you get.
(2) Security. I think at this point more OSs run on 386 architecture
computers than any other platform. Solaris, Linux, NS, OS/2, MSDOS
(choke), not to mention several other flavors even more obtuse.
If you are not opposed to buying Intel on sheer principle, and Ii you are
careful about the hardware options you choose, you can get a fast, color
NS machine for under $2,500, which is hard to come by for Black hardware.
Oh, and when I say be careful about your hardware options, I mean it. I
wasn't. NS is _very_ picky about hardware, and will simply refuse to work
if you don't get it right.
---
# Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
# ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and say:
# www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
# Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
From: aeg@nuance.com (Anthony E. Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Free Database Server And Adaptor
Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:10:30 GMT
Organization: Nuance Network Services, Huntsville, Alabama
Message-ID: <3mn9um$i0l@drogheda.nuance.com>
A friend of mine had told me that there had been a post in CSNA concerning
a free SQL database server and EOF adaptor. However, I am unable to find
it due to me "catching up" when I had gotten too far behind on my news
reading. Does anyone remember the product and where I might be able to
get it?
Thanks
Tony
From: billm@mcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CD-ROM drive for Epson PC
Date: 15 Apr 1995 04:22:47 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3mnhmn$luk@News1.mcs.com>
I am running 3.2 NS on an Epson 486, and need to get a CD-ROM drive to upgrade
to 3.3. In NeXTanswers, it lists as certified components Adaptec 1542CF SCSI
Controllers and NEC MultiSpin CD-ROM drives. By looking at the Configure app,
I see I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI Controller. Will this cause any kind of
problem with the NEC MultiSpin, or will I have to get a new SCSI controller?
And can this CD-ROM drive be quad speed?
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 15 Apr 1995 06:04:50 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3mnnm2$ohk@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
In article <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com> klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) writes:
>In article <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>,
>David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>>To handle colour on a Cube requires acquiring a NeXTDimension Board.
>
>Watch out because the ND isn't compatible with some software.
>The system is too specialized for it to be truly useful unless
>you're doing custom apps. If anyone can prove me wrong, please
>do because I would love to get one if I'm convinced.
>
I've got to disagree with this. I run an ND 40/32/400int/1000ext.
I've run it with both 1 and 2 monitors. I'm not a developer but
a home user. I do lots of commercial prepress quality color
correction at home for my pleasure. I've created hundreds of
animation frames on it. I've mixed a commercial quality audio
CD on it. I've done hundreds of hours of 3D rendering. As a
32 bit machine it runs the same speed as an 8bit Quadra 950
without a video card. I watch television on it (usually videos)
at least once or twice a week.
My large library of Next Motorola software runs fine - each
with its own flaws none of which is related to the ND system.
I also run the Daydream Mac emulator a few times a week -
usually Photoshop 3.0. That runs better than the Quadra I
use at work (or any of the other 4 macs I run at work.) If you
have any interest in PostScript - its way beyond most any other
os with display ps.
Just my 2 cents.
Charlie Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
>
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 14 Apr 1995 17:26:16 GMT
Organization: Me? Organised?!
Message-ID: <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Faizel Dakri <faizel@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
[munch]
>1. Do all of the NeXT machines (Cubes, NeXTstations, Slabs ...) have the
> 56001 DSP, microphone and sound capabilities; or is it just the later
> models? Also, do any of the NeXT machines have MIDI capabilities built
> in, and if so, is there any sequencing software available?
All have the 56001 DSP built in, but no MIDI capability. You might want
to check out the Stanford University Centre for Computer Research on Music
& Acoustics (CCRMA) as they have an excellent Music Kit that provides
comprehensive support for music on Next computers (including you can now
run the kit on Intel hardware, using (say) a Turtle Beach Tahiti Multisound
DSP plug-in card that *does* have MIDI support.
>2. Are the Cubes only equipped to handle monochrome, or can they handle
> color screens as well?
To handle colour on a Cube requires acquiring a NeXTDimension Board. You
then have better colour than most other systems can offer, but it has cost
you probably $5000. The NeXTDimension runs in parallel with the 68040
mother board, and drives the colour screen, while the 68040 drives the
B&W monitor.
>3. If I were to get an upgraded 25 MHz '040 in a Cube, would it perform
> equally as well as say a 25 MHz '040 NeXTstation or Slab?
Yes.
>4. As far as video speed goes, how does black hardware rate in video
> performance to Intel hardware (I'm mainly talking about moving windows
> and stuff)?
The original black hardware makes the Intel hardware look pretty sick when it
comes to video performance. How sick depends on which approach to driving
the display your particular Intel-based processor uses. Intel with VLB
of some sort is not too bad, but still not as good as the original NeXT.
[munch]
>faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
david
--------
--
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Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge.
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NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 15 Apr 1995 17:22:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3movck$p4q@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) wrote:
>
> In article <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
> Faizel Dakri <faizel@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> [munch]
> >1. Do all of the NeXT machines (Cubes, NeXTstations, Slabs ...) have the
> > 56001 DSP, microphone and sound capabilities; or is it just the later
> > models? Also, do any of the NeXT machines have MIDI capabilities built
> > in, and if so, is there any sequencing software available?
>
> All have the 56001 DSP built in, but no MIDI capability. You might want
> to check out the Stanford University Centre for Computer Research on Music
> & Acoustics (CCRMA) as they have an excellent Music Kit that provides
> comprehensive support for music on Next computers (including you can now
> run the kit on Intel hardware, using (say) a Turtle Beach Tahiti Multisound
> DSP plug-in card that *does* have MIDI support.
>
More MIDI info:
In the developer version of NS 2.x there's a demo app called Ensemble
(in/NextDeveloper/Demos/).
From README_Sound&Music.wn:
[Ensemble] allows you to read standard MIDI files and orchestrate
them, or perform music from a MIDI keyboard using a MIDI interface
connected to a serial port.
I believe this was removed from NS 3.x along with the Music Kit, but
with a NS license, this can be freely copied from someone with
NS 2.x Developer. (At least you could with a 2.x NS license.)
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain."
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT HARDWARE QUESTIONS
Date: 15 Apr 1995 17:47:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3mp0rm$q22@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu>
destewar@samar.usc.edu (GodEmperor23) wrote:
>
> decide what hardware to get. I'm looking for something
> with the following specs and uses:
>
> Color
> fast---68040
> floppy
> Large capacity HD
> large monitor [full page]
> DTP
> Word Processing
> Book/large document production
> Clip Art
> Scanning artwork
> slavic font capability--hopfully port my Mac/PC/Windoze
> fonts
> MIDI-- not really important, but would be nice
>
> What is the optimal hardware, software, and peripheral setup
> I should build and how much should it cost.
>
>
I would suggest looking for a Color NeXTstation Turbo (33 MHz '040).
It'll have a 2.88 MB floppy drive built-in. You should get one w/ 400+ MB
hard drive. They come with either a 17-in or 21-in monitor, and I've
heard that the Sony 17-in is better (although I don't know exactly why).
For word processing, WriteNow is perfectly adequate. (Don't get WordPerfect!)
I haven't tried any of the DTP packages, but there are a few good contenders
out now (finally!), including Pages by Pages, FrameMaker (an NS oldie),
and others. If you're looking for hardware for book production, there
are several options for LinoType machines and the like. Email me if you'd
to know the issue of NeXTWORLD with reviews of a bunch of these.
There's a bunch of clip art at the NeXT archive sites. For porting fonts,
there's one in MetroTools, a (for NS) very inexpensive set of tools. There
are others I'm unfamiliar with.
There's some MIDI info in a couple of replies to Faizel Dakri's
<faizel@mail.utexas.edu> post on com.sys.next.misc.
I just checked comp.sys.next.marketplace, and it looks like all this
could cost anywhere from $2000-$6000.
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
'We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain.'
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sequencing Software
Date: 15 Apr 1995 17:51:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3mp138$q22@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mjd9c$cbr@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher) wrote:
> Is there a MIDI sequencer out there for the NeXT, either free or a pay
> product?? I am running on black hardware. Also, how do you hook up said
> black box to a MIDI device?? I have MIDI to MIDI cables, but I think I
> remember hearing that it would run out of a serial port on the NeXT. Is
> there a converter, or a serial to MIDI cable??
For a little bit of info, check out the followups to the post on
comp.sys.next.misc by Faizel Dakri called 'Requesting info on black
hardware'.
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From: Joan Lowe <jlowe@amanda.dorsai.org>
Subject: ===>> Call *internationally* SUPER-CHEAP/ from any country!!!
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950415130330.29722A-100000@amanda.dorsai.org>
Sender: news@dorsai.org (Keeper of the News)
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy - New York
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 17:10:31 GMT
Hi, my name is Joan Lowe. I make a lot of calls overseas . Six months
ago I just found a USA international long distance company that charges
very, very cheap rates for all calls originating in any country and
terminating in any other country.
If you forward this completed form back to them at:
pattie3@freenet.fsu.edu
they will send you email describing all their savings programs.
Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy*
student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone
run my part-time software business! Email them directly at:
pattie3@freenet.fsu.edu
If you sign-up, I get a $2.00 finder's fee from their agent. :)
*-----------------------cut here--------------------------------*
Request for more free info on International Calling Plans:
email this form back to: pattie3@freenet.fsu.edu
(sorry, but no form sent back = no response)
my name is:
my internet email address is:
the main 2 countries I would be calling between:
041595 Joan Lowe
*-----------------------cut here--------------------------------*
he will send you a full description on the company's savings plans for
international long distance, without any obligation to sign-up. If you
like what you see you can send back the application and he will get you
set-up within 2-30 days after he gets your application back by fax or by
mail. It only took 2 days for him to set me up and my parents up (who
are overseas).
Please don't forget to fill-in and forward back the above form. Requests
for info without the form filled in will go unanswered. Sorry. :(
They can also arrange it so my family (who still lives overseas) can call
me for a lot less than they would pay through the long distance tel.
company there. My family can even call their friends in other countries
for less than they would pay from the loca telco. The local telco.
overseas can do nothing about this nice way of *bypassing* them. :)
They bill in 6 second increments, with a 30-second minimum (great for
quick faxes). This means that if I talk for 1 minute and 6 seconds I pay
only for 1.1 minutes, not 2 minutes.
But the best part of all is that it is a flat rate pricing. I can call
*anytime* at all for the same price. I don't have to wake someone up
there or wait till the weekend to call.
Here are their rates in US Dollars to *all* countries *from the USA*
(NOTE: from countries other than the USA back to the USA with their
call-back program, add 10 cents per minute to the below rates; for
calls originating in a country other than the USA and terminating in a
country other than the USA, add the two countries rates below together
and then add on 20 cents to calculate the total cost from one country to
another)
COUNTRY $/Minute
------- -----------
AFGHANISTAN 1.37
ALBANIA 1.10
ALGERIA 1.00
AMERICAN SAMOA .80
ANDORRA .54
ANGOLA 1.60
ANGUILLA .66
ANTIGUA .66
ARGENTINA .75
ARMENIA 1.20
ARUBA 1.10
ASCENSION ISLAND 1.59
AUSTRALIA .41
AUSTRIA .45
AZERBAIJAN 1.10
BAHAMAS .38
BAHRAIN 1.06
BANGLADESH 1.75
BARBADOS .66
BELARUS .85
BELGIUM .45
BELIZE .75
BENIN 1.55
BERMUDA .66
BHUTAN 3.64
BOLIVIA .75
BOTSWANA 1.38
BRAZIL .75
BRITISH VIRGIN ISL .66
BRUNEI .99
BULGARIA .85
BURKINA FASO 1.92
BURUNDI .92
CAMBODIA 2.08
CAMEROON 1.85
CANADA .22
CAPE VERDE ISLAND 1.61
CAYMAN ISLANDS .66
CENTAL AFRICAN REP 3.40
CHAD 3.52
CHILE .75
CHINA 1.40
CHRISTMAS ISLAND 2.68
COLOMBIA .75
COMOROS ISLAND 3.52
CONGO 1.18
COOK ISLANDS 3.71
COSTA RICA .75
CROATIA .85
CUBA 1.20
CYPRUS 1.27
CZECHOSLOVAKIA .85
DENMARK .45
DJIBOUTI 1.82
DOMINICA .66
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC .72
ECUADOR .75
EGYPT 1.02
EL SALVADOR .75
EQUATORIAL GUINEA 3.30
ESTONIA .85
ETHIOPIA 1.72
FAEROE ISLANDS .45
FALKLAND ISLANDS .75
FIJI ISLANDS 1.76
FINLAND .45
FRANCE .41
FRENCH ANTILLES .75
FRENCH GUIANA .75
FRENCH POLYNESIA 1.60
GABON, REP OF 1.43
GAMBIA 1.20
GEORGIA 1.10
GERMANY, EAST .41
GERMANY, WEST .41
GHANA 1.00
GIBRALTAR 1.30
GREECE .50
GREENLAND .97
GRENADA .66
GUADELOUPE .75
GUAM .66
GUANTANAMO BAY .75
GUATEMALA .75
GUINEA 2.02
GUINEA BISSAU 2.38
GUYANA .75
HAITI .75
HONDURAS .75
HONG KONG .51
HUNGARY .85
ICELAND .45
INDIA .98
INDONESIA 1.21
IRAN 1.88
IRAQ 1.64
IRELAND, REP OF .45
ISRAEL .89
ITALY .45
IVORY COAST 1.54
JAMAICA .66
JAPAN .45
JORDAN .95
KAZAKHSTAN 1.95
KENYA 1.30
KOREA .74
KYRGYZSTAN 1.10
KUWAIT 1.06
LAOS 2.94
LATVIA .85
LEBANON 1.33
LESOTHO 1.42
LIBERIA .79
LIBYA 1.39
LIECHTENSTEIN .45
LITHUANIA .85
LUXEMBOURG .45
MACAO 1.45
MACEDONIA 1.30
MADAGASCAR 3.41
MALAWI 1.20
MALAYSIA 1.10
MALDIVES 2.79
MALI 2.27
MALTA 1.42
MARSHALL ISLANDS 1.71
MAURITANIA 2.34
MAURITIUS 2.38
MAYOTTE ISLAND 2.33
MICRONESIA 1.70
MOLDOVA 1.40
MONACO .45
MONGOLIA 2.65
MONTSERRAT .66
MOROCCO 1.47
MOZAMBIQUE 1.56
MYANMAR 3.17
NAMIBIA 1.23
NAURU 1.36
NEPAL 1.99
NETHERLANDS .45
NETHERLANDS ANT .75
NEVIS 1.19
NEW ZEALAND .55
NICARAGUA .75
NIGER 2.02
NIGERIA .88
NIUE 2.73
NORWAY .45
OMAN 1.48
PAKISTAN 1.49
PALAU 2.71
PANAMA .75
PAPUA NEW GUINEA 1.44
PARAGUAY .75
PERU .75
PHILIPPINES .89
POLAND .85
PORTUGAL .50
QATAR 1.11
REUNION ISLAND 2.34
NEW CALEDONIA 1.55
ROMANIA 1.15
RUSSIA (CIS) .85
RWANDA 2.43
SAIPAN 1.05
SAN MARINO 1.20
SAO TOME & PRINCIPE 1.95
SAUDI ARABIA .89
SENEGAL 1.10
SERBIA .85
SEYCHELLES ISLANDS 1.70
SIERRA LEONE 3.24
SINGAPORE .41
SLOVENIA 1.05
SOLOMON ISLANDS 1.66
SOUTH AFRICA .69
SPAIN .50
SRI LANKA 1.21
ST. HELENA 2.33
ST. KITTS .66
ST. LUCIA .66
ST. PIERRE & MIQUEL .75
ST. VINCENT .66
SUDAN 2.76
SURINAME .75
SWAZILAND 1.38
SWEDEN .35
SWITZERLAND .45
SYRIA 2.15
TAIWAN, REP OF .61
TAJIKISTAN 1.20
TANZANIA 1.16
THAILAND 1.10
TOGO, REP OF 1.56
TONGA 2.12
TRINIDAD & TOBAGO .66
TUNISIA 1.14
TURKEY 1.11
TURKMENISTAN 2.35
TURKS & CAICOS .66
TUVALU 2.82
UGANDA 1.40
UKRAINE .85
UNITED ARAB EMIRATE .92
UNITED KINGDOM .35
URUGUAY .75
UZBEKISTAN 1.20
VANUATO 3.45
VATICAN CITY .85
VENEZUELA .75
VIETNAM 2.07
WALLIS 3.01
YEMEN ARAB REPUBLIC 1.03
YEMEN DEM REP 1.03
YUGOSLAVIA .85
ZAIRE 1.34
ZAMBIA 1.12
ZIMBABWE 1.45
MEXICO:
Rate PER
Step MIN
---- ---
1 .36
2 .36
3 .57
4 .71
5 .71
6 .91
7 .95
8 1.06
Please don't forget to fill-in and forward back the form near the top of
this message. Requests for info without the form filled in will go
unanswered. Sorry. :(
Sincerely,
Joan Lowe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Message-ID: <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 10:13:24 GMT
>Watch out because the ND isn't compatible with some software.
>The system is too specialized for it to be truly useful unless
>you're doing custom apps. If anyone can prove me wrong, please
>do because I would love to get one if I'm convinced.
Let's see, the list of incompatible software includes X-Windows and NEXTIME.
NEXTIME might even work with the new Interceptor, but I don't have any .mov
files to check that now. The only other software I have come across which I
could not run on my NeXTdimension is stuff that was Intel-only (e.g. the very
first Doom.app, before black hardware was supported, and the new SoftPC.app
which only runs on Intel).
If you don't find viewing 24-bit color images and real-time video in a
window "truly useful" compared to 2-bit gray, I don't know what will convince
you :-)
[...]
>Personally, I think black hardware, although elegant, are
>reaching the end of their useful cycle when it comes to the
>types of software that are becoming more commonplace these
>days. Witness the posts of how DoomII.app runs abysmally
>slow on black hardware. Too bad the '060 "upgrades" will
>never be available--though I do understand why not from a
>manufacturer's point of view.
I won't argue with your first statement. I actually applauded NeXT's decision
to drop hardware (until I heard from people who thought that NeXT had
completely gone out of business - that's gotta be bad press), because I
couldn't see NeXT keeping up with all the other workstation vendors. Software
was and is their true advantage above all competition.
But back to the point, don't take DoomII.app too seriously. I think there is
something majorly wrong with it. Doom.app is not nearly so slow on black
hardware, and the differences in source code between the two versions is not
significant.
Actually, Doom I used to have a lot of NeXT display-specific code in it - stuff
that was still around when Microsoft first started porting Doom to Windows.
However, the Doom II sources have lost this NeXT display code, and as a result
the port to Windows has even lost some functionality. OMNI's source doesn't
look so bad, but there has to be some reason why the Doom I to II transition
took such a significant dive in performance. When DoomII is playing a DoomI
WAD, it is actually executing the same old code (basically). Perhaps id
Software can resurrect the old NeXT-friendly video code...
Of course, OMNI has done wonders for the non-NeXT video performance.
So... DoomII.app aside, what else in the NEXTSTEP software spectrum has you
doubting that black hardware performs competitively? Of the people that I know
who have the resources to put Macintosh, Intel PC-clone, HP, and NeXT hardware
side-by-side, I hear that NeXT's Turbo machines are STILL hard to beat for
overall performance, including video, printing, etc.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 15 Apr 1995 20:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
<3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>
In-reply-to: brianw@sounds.wa.com's message of Sat, 15 Apr 1995 10:13:24 GMT
In article <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com> brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian
Willoughby) writes:
> >Watch out because the ND isn't compatible with some software.
> >The system is too specialized for it to be truly useful unless
> >you're doing custom apps. If anyone can prove me wrong, please
> >do because I would love to get one if I'm convinced.
>
> Let's see, the list of incompatible software includes X-Windows and NEXTIME.
co-Xist runs on my ND system. So scratch X-windows from the list.
It's mind numbingly slow at 32 bits, so I usually run it in 8-bit
pseudo mode, but it works.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
=================================================================
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well
as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread.
-- Anatole France
=================================================================
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT HARDWARE QUESTIONS
Date: 15 Apr 1995 18:01:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3mp1ks$qut@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu>
destewar@samar.usc.edu (GodEmperor23) wrote:
> What is the optimal hardware, software, and peripheral setup
> I should build and how much should it cost.
Oh yeah, get a CD-ROM drive and a modem w/telecom software too,
of course.
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
'We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain.'
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 15 Apr 1995 18:28:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3mp37l$jv8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3movck$p4q@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3movck$p4q@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Leon von Stauber
<leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
>
> In the developer version of NS 2.x there's a demo app called Ensemble
> (in/NextDeveloper/Demos/).
>
> From README_Sound&Music.wn:
> [Ensemble] allows you to read standard MIDI files and orchestrate
> them, or perform music from a MIDI keyboard using a MIDI interface
> connected to a serial port.
>
> I believe this was removed from NS 3.x along with the Music Kit, but
> with a NS license, this can be freely copied from someone with
> NS 2.x Developer. (At least you could with a 2.x NS license.)
>
I have an Opcode Studio 3 MIDI interface that used to work fine up to
NS 3.2
On NS 3.3 it looks like the serial port does no longer transmit from
Ensemble.
Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong?
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice),x5493(fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Web site for IRS forms & how to print them
Date: 15 Apr 1995 22:47:40 GMT
Organization: National Renewable Energy Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3mpiec$5kp@nrel.nrel.gov>
Keywords: IRS; anxiety
As Denise Howard pointed out, you can get IRS tax forms as PostScript
documents from
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/fwforms.html
Look in the link IRS-PS; *forms* begin with F; instructions with I.
(The HTML for the contents of this link looks mal-formatted under
OmniWeb, but you can see enought to click on the appropriate links.)
The problem is that they are meant to be un-zipped on a PC under DOS--the
exe files are self-extracting archives of the PostScript documents.
You *can* extract them in a Terminal window on a NeXT if you grab the
package unzip50.tar.Z via ftp from ftp.cs.orst.edu, or WWW to:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/tools
Extract the contents of the package using Opener.app
[or:
mkdir unzip
cp unzip50.tar.Z unzip
cd unzip
zcat unzip50.tar.Z | tar xf -
]
make next
[ignore the warnings about
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h:41: warning: conflicting types for
built-in function `memcpy'... etc]
Then you can use the resulting unzip binary on the .exe files:
e.g.,
./unzip i2210.exe
Inflating: i2210.ps
Extracting: i2210.bat
Warning: Preview shows all pages of the document superimposed, rendering
it kinda hard to read :), but they *print* fine!
What fun!
--
David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group
dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510
Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory
Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
No NeXTMail here please :(
From: how@sihame.panix.com (Howie Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can't shut it off!
Date: 16 Apr 1995 03:04:32 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3mq1g0$jmd@news.panix.com>
Hi Everyone:
I can't seem to shut off my computer. After it shuts down, it comes right
back on.....Any suggestions would much more than helpful.
NeXT mail VERY Welcome!
Howie Schneider
how@panix.com
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Free Database Server And Adaptor
Date: 16 Apr 1995 04:51:17 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3mq7o5$no1@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3mn9um$i0l@drogheda.nuance.com>
Anthony E. Glover (aeg@nuance.com) wrote:
: A friend of mine had told me that there had been a post in CSNA concerning
: a free SQL database server and EOF adaptor. However, I am unable to find
: it due to me "catching up" when I had gotten too far behind on my news
: reading. Does anyone remember the product and where I might be able to
: get it?
It is MiniSQL and is located on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: bschmidt@calon.com (Brian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 3.3 can't see HD #2
Date: 16 Apr 1995 06:23:41 GMT
Organization: WEST COAST ONLINE
Message-ID: <3mqd5d$3sq@news.wco.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I am new to NextStep and am having the following problem. When ever I
boot the system (I have 2 SCSI drives, with HD #1 containing NS 3.3 and a
DOS partition and HD #2 containing logical DOS drives D-F) I get a
workspace dialog box containing the message "The SCSI disk is unreadable"
and my options are to ignore or initialize. If I select initialize, the
capacity is shown as 0 (the drive is 2 GB). If I go into the BuildDisk
app, HD #1 is listed as my Startup Disk and HD #2 is listed as Hard Disk
#2 with a capacity of 2046.4 MB, which is correct. What's the deal? How
come I can't see the drive under normal operating conditions? Any help
appreciated.
-Brian
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can't shut it off!
Date: 16 Apr 1995 08:36:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3mqkth$skp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3mq1g0$jmd@news.panix.com>
Howie Schneider writes
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I can't seem to shut off my computer. After it shuts down, it
> comes right back on.....Any suggestions would much more than
> helpful.
>
> NeXT mail VERY Welcome!
>
> Howie Schneider
> how@panix.com
Howie,
you have a Turbo Cube or Turbo Station, right? If so, login as root and in
the preferences, you can select in the "Power" subsection whether the
machine should come automatically on after a power failure. Just turn off
this switch and you are set!
Hope this helps.
- Stan
---
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
| Stan Jirman -- The Swiss CS Guy | |
| http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj/ | When you find yourself |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 HEXO | in a hole, stop digging |
| stanj@cs.stanford.edu NeXTmail / MIME | |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: gmayner@access3.digex.net (G. Mayner)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.girlfriends,soc.culture.french,alt.personals.ads,comp.os.386bsd.misc,bcs.sig.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,bcs.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,rec.bicycles.misc,uiuc.misc.bookcoop,nyc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: ===>> Call *internationally* SUPER-CHEAP/ from any country!!!
Date: 16 Apr 1995 08:01:13 -0400
Organization: Don't you wish you knew?
Message-ID: <3mr0u9$ruh@access3.digex.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950415130330.29722A-100000@amanda.dorsai.org>
AT&T is cheaper than this. Just call them and ask for lowest rates.
From: Joan Lowe <jlowe@amanda.dorsai.org>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.girlfriends,soc.culture.french,alt.personals.ads,comp.os.386bsd.misc,bcs.sig.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,bcs.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,rec.bicycles.misc,uiuc.misc.bookcoop,nyc.jobs.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <Pine.SUN.3.91.950415130330.29722A-100000@amanda.dorsai.org>
Control: cancel <Pine.SUN.3.91.950415130330.29722A-100000@amanda.dorsai.org>
Date: 16 Apr 1995 13:23:05 GMT
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From: Joe Gross <jgross@uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can't shut it off!
Date: 16 Apr 95 23:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jgross.798075618@flowbee>
References: <3mq1g0$jmd@news.panix.com> <3mqkth$skp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Originator: jgross@flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu
stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) writes:
>you have a Turbo Cube or Turbo Station, right? If so, login as root and in
>the preferences, you can select in the "Power" subsection whether the
>machine should come automatically on after a power failure. Just turn off
>this switch and you are set!
when i had a color slab i liked the feature of it turning back on. I
tended to power it down and then yank the plug just before it turned
itself back on.
this way you can't forget to turn that feature back on. :)
--
Joe Gross | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
jgross@uiuc.edu | <URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/jgross>
=================| finger for pgp public key
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 17 Apr 1995 04:47:01 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3msrs5$b5f@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>
In article <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>,
Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com> wrote:
>Let's see, the list of incompatible software includes X-Windows and NEXTIME.
>NEXTIME might even work with the new Interceptor
[...]
>If you don't find viewing 24-bit color images and real-time video in a
>window "truly useful" compared to 2-bit gray, I don't know what will convince
>you :-)
I was thinking about NEXTIME in particular. When it was shown
several years ago, I was excited at the possibility of using an
ND with NEXTIME; but was disappointed when those at NeXT said
that the ND didn't have the throughput needed. If someone out
there can try NEXTIME with an ND and post the results, I would
greatly appreciate it.
Ken
--
Ken Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street MS 20CG
Computing & Technology Services Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Client/Server Engineering 1.415.857.3230 FAX 1.415.857.5518
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Subject: Re: Can't shut it off!
In-Reply-To: how@sihame.panix.com's message of 16 Apr 1995 03:04:32 GMT
Message-ID: <SOWA.95Apr16223201@netcom19.netcom.com>
Sender: sowa@netcom19.netcom.com
Organization: Wahoo 5
References: <3mq1g0$jmd@news.panix.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 05:32:01 GMT
With apologies to the Warlocks and to the readers of this newsgroup:
I can't shut down!
It's plain to see.
I can't shut down!
I've been set free.
Who you are and what you do
Don't make no difference to me...
--
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
From: wjs@foom.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 17 Apr 1995 02:27:30 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3mtca2$ck@foom.omnigroup.com>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>
Brian Willoughby writes:
>But back to the point, don't take DoomII.app too seriously. I think there is
>something majorly wrong with it. Doom.app is not nearly so slow on black
>hardware, and the differences in source code between the two versions is not
>significant.
First off, let me state that we're working on DOOM II for fun, and so
we don't have oodles of time to make it fast.
That said, it USED to run really fast on black hardware. At one point
I had it running on an old mono cube fast enough that it was actually
fun and playable; something I never felt about DOOM I.
I don't know if something has changed in the display algorithm since I
did my work; the guy who's been working on it recently spends most of
his time on Suns and HPs, so it's not so surprising if it suddenly got
slow on black hardware again.
But, let me stress, if it's running slower on black hardware than DOOM
did, that's a bug and we'll fix it. It has been a ton faster. It was
downright zippy on 12-bit systems.
BTW, we make no claims as to its speed on ND systems; we don't have
one to test on. In fact, we gave the code to Brian to fix up for us
on his ND, so I don't know why he's complaining here about the speed
instead of fixing it himself. There's certainly no magic to what id
used to do in DOOM 1; they created a NXBitmapImageRep and blitted it
on-screen, making sure the window was 4-byte aligned.
-Wil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Message-ID: <D74p9u.IDy@sounds.wa.com>
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com> <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:56:17 GMT
In article <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu>,
Paul J. Sanchez <paul@whimsy.umsl.edu> wrote:
> > >Watch out because the ND isn't compatible with some software.
> > >The system is too specialized for it to be truly useful unless
> > >you're doing custom apps. If anyone can prove me wrong, please
> > >do because I would love to get one if I'm convinced.
> >
> > Let's see, the list of incompatible software includes X-Windows and NEXTIME.
>
>co-Xist runs on my ND system. So scratch X-windows from the list.
>
>It's mind numbingly slow at 32 bits, so I usually run it in 8-bit
>pseudo mode, but it works.
I think that co-Xist is a cost product (I'm sure you know that since you have
it). I also believe that there are at least two, if not three different
X-Windows packages for NEXTSTEP. The free one, perhaps it's called Mouse-X,
is not available for the NeXTdimension.
Not that I'm whining. You can't get everything for free, but I have collected
quite an extensive set of programs at no cost! There is really no significant
reason to consider the NeXTdimension "incompatible," which is a fine testament
to the design of NEXTSTEP.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 17 Apr 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3msq0e$oah@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
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===============================================
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
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The ftp sites
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ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
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This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 17 Apr 1995 13:15:51 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Apr17081551@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mn3p6$5m5@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
<D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com> <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu>
<D74p9u.IDy@sounds.wa.com>
In-reply-to: brianw@sounds.wa.com's message of Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:56:17 GMT
In article <D74p9u.IDy@sounds.wa.com> brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian
Willoughby) writes:
> In article <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu>,
> Paul J. Sanchez <paul@whimsy.umsl.edu> wrote:
> >
> >co-Xist runs on my ND system. So scratch X-windows from the list.
> >
> >It's mind numbingly slow at 32 bits, so I usually run it in 8-bit
> >pseudo mode, but it works.
> I think that co-Xist is a cost product (I'm sure you know that
> since you have it). I also believe that there are at least two, if
> not three different X-Windows packages for NEXTSTEP. The free one,
> perhaps it's called Mouse-X, is not available for the NeXTdimension.
> Not that I'm whining. You can't get everything for free, but I have
> collected quite an extensive set of programs at no cost! There is
> really no significant reason to consider the NeXTdimension
> "incompatible," which is a fine testament to the design of NEXTSTEP.
Yes, co-Xist is a commercial product. And yes, it's one of the few
commercial products on my machine, since there's so much excellent
stuff out there for free. (I have no relationship with Pencom other
than as a satisfied co-Xist user, since it gives me interoperability
until NS takes over the world.)
My recollection is that Mouse-X claimed only to work on slabs, period.
I never bothered to try it on a mono cube, and it wasn't ported to
Intel, let alone the new architectures. So listing it as a ND
incompatibility just struck me as odd, given that there is a ND
capable solution out there.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Video Performance under NS-3.3
Date: 17 Apr 1995 22:37:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3muqjs$do2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3mela1$1sv@usenet.rpi.edu> <3muco9$vg@news.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Bessey (mark_bessey@next.com) wrote:
[...]
: _I_ know why 24-bit windows drag faster - it's a bug in 3.3.
Will there be a bug fix available over NeXTanswers or do we have to
wait for 3.4, eh 4.0?
Axel
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Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 23 281 (uni) \~/
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.binaries.pictures.supermodels
Subject: does your edu publish teacher evals?
Date: 17 Apr 1995 21:40:19 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mun83$aba@news.iastate.edu>
This is kind of a survey. I'm writing a proposal for an English
assignment and I need to know if there are any schools out there that
publish teacher evaluations (or at least make them public) and how it has
affected your school. Thanks in advance for any replies.
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
****************************************************************
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP: Problem with Magneto-Optical Drive!!
Followup-To: poster
Date: 17 Apr 1995 17:12:44 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3mu7ic$4io@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: Magneto-Optical, Problem, HELP
Hi, I am having some trouble with my Magneto Optical drive. I just
got some brand new disks and what seems to be happening is that when I
insert one into the drive the drive tries to read it a couple of times
and then spits the disk back out. The disk is okay, because I have
tried inserting it into the drive of another cube at college whose
configuration is similar to my machine. The machine at school
recognizes that the disk is unreadable and then asks me if I want to
format it, where my machine does *NOT* ask.
Also, I can read previously formatted disks. I have disks which were
formatted onmy machine and disks which were formatted on other
machines and they all work okay. A few have some errors though.
Does anybody have even the slightest idea as to what is going on
here???
Thanks,
--
Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu
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existence. Please see http://www.phantom.com/~slowdog for details.
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: open doesn't work with the -a option
Date: 18 Apr 1995 09:18:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3n0056$jor@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1995Apr17.220320.2149@precipice.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hugues RICHARD (precipi!neekibo) wrote:
: When I try to open a file in shell with the open command, it doesn't work
: when I specifie the -a option.
: For exemple if I type "open console.log", open launch Edit and open console.log, but if I type "open -a Edit.app console.log" it answers me :
: >open: can't open connection to Edit.app on local host.
There's a replacement for open on the archives which doesn't need
PublicWindowServer and works with -a as advertised.
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tools/open.1.0.pkg.NI.b.tar.gz
Axel
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web site for IRS forms & how to print them
Date: 17 Apr 1995 20:37:23 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3muji3$m3l@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3mpiec$5kp@nrel.nrel.gov> <3mu91i$6pf@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3mu91i$6pf@news.ycc.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>However, note the problems when I tried it with the form
>I actually need:
>
>= laplace:11# unzip f4562.exe
>=
>= File: f4562.exe
>=
>= End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
>= a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
>= latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
>= the last disk(s) of this archive.
>
I had a similiar experience with another file. I meant to retry it under
messie-dos when I get a chance.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Video Performance under NS-3.3
Date: 17 Apr 1995 18:41:13 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3muco9$vg@news.next.com>
References: <3mela1$1sv@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn writes
[Thorough investigation of dragging 12 and 24-bit windows on a 24-bit
system]
> I don't understand why 24-bit color windows move about so much
> faster than 12-bit windows when my video mode is set to 24-bit
> color, but that does seem to be true and I thought I'd pass
> along these observations. Ideally I'd like to get better
> performance while setup with 24-bit color without doing any
> of these games, of course!
>
> ---
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
_I_ know why 24-bit windows drag faster - it's a bug in 3.3.
-Mark
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Computer, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu (James S. Noble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 17 Apr 1995 20:53:26 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <3mukg6$u69@news.missouri.edu>
My copy of OmniWeb (version 1.0 - prerelease) upon lauching states that more
than one user is using the software - therefore it locks up. However, there is
only one Instance of OmniWeb running. Any thoughts? Did the prerelease have a
"drop dead" date?
Thanks,
JS Noble
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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E-mail: noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu (including NeXT mail)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
Subject: Help! Changing Icons are Driving Me Crazy
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <D774H9.CvB@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:19:45 GMT
Distribution: world
The icons displayed in the file viewer have been changed
Organization: UCLA, Department of Electrical Engineering
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
by nearly all of the share-ware programs I have installed
on my machine. TeXEdit changed the icon for *.tex files,
greyboard changed the icon for *.draw files, etc. I have
been trying unsuccessfully to change them back to the
system defaults. Changing the application which automatically
launches when the icon is double-clicked makes no difference.
Changing the icon in the *.app directory for the offending
application also does not restore the original icon.
Any other ideas out there? I noticed a file in the ~/.NeXT
directory called suffixes3_0.wmd. It looked promising because
it lists all file extensions and the application associated
to that extension. But, changes to that file were not
recognized by the file viewer.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ryan
ps Other users on this system seem to have been spared. I
don't know if it has to do with permission settings or
something else, but it may be a clue.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: Command line multipart mime
Message-ID: <D770M9.17w@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3m8n09$fiu@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:56:33 GMT
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
>Does anybody have a utility that will, from the command line, allow me to
>mail a multipart MIME/NeXTMAIL message? I want something similar to:
> mimemail -u user@whereverv -s "Hi" <file1> <file2> ...
>I especially need this to be received on a NeXT as a MIME/NeXTMAIL
>document with the files (they are uuencoded or gziped) having the proper
>icons in the body.
>Any info sincerely appreciated!
I guess MPACK will do the job.
Here is part of the README file:
DESCRIPTION
The mpack program encodes the named file in one or more
MIME messages. The resulting messages are mailed to one or
more recipients, written to a named file or set of files, or
posted to a set of newsgroups.
And here is some information form the mime newsgroup FAQ (old!):
Name: mpack
Product: MUA/utility
Platform: Unix, MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga
FTP: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/mpack-1.4-src.tar.Z
Sources for all versions
FTP: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/mpack-1.4-pc.zip
MS-DOS binaries
FTP: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/mpack-1.4-mac.hqx
Macintosh binary
FTP: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/mpack-1.4-amiga.lha
Amiga binaries
Author: John Gardiner Myers, Chris Newman (Mac), Mike Meyer (Amiga)
Comments:
[ John Gardiner Myers <jgm+@CMU.EDU> 1-Jun-1994 ]
Mpack is a minimal implementation of MIME, designed for encoding and
decoding binary files in MIME messages. In short, it is the MIME
equivalent of uuencode and uudecode. For backwards compatibility,
it can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh
port can also handle AppleSingle, AppleDouble, and BinHex.
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<-------------------------------------------------------------->
| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: open doesn't work with the -a option
Message-ID: <1995Apr17.220320.2149@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:03:20 GMT
When I try to open a file in shell with the open command, it doesn't work
when I specifie the -a option.
For exemple if I type "open console.log", open launch Edit and open console.log, but if I type "open -a Edit.app console.log" it answers me :
>open: can't open connection to Edit.app on local host.
In this case, it is not very important but when I want to use Yap to open an eps file instead of Preview, I just can't!
I tried everything such as :
> open -a Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
> open -a /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
> open -a /Nex
tDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app/Yap my_eps_file.eps
I also played with the public "window server" option with no result.
I've checked everything... (I think)
Any idea ?
Thanks
PS : I work under NS3.0J and NS3.2
Hugues.
local host.
In this case, it is not very important but when I want to use Yap to open an eps file instead of Preview, I just can't!
I tried everything such as :
> open -a Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
> open -a /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
> open -a /Nex
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neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK)
------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: lappe@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Dr. Markus Lappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to read .PDF files on a NeXT
Date: 18 Apr 1995 16:11:25 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n0obd$dc4@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Playing around with the World Wide Web, I noticed that many documents
are distributed in PDF format, the format of Adobe Acrobat. I
realised that there are free Acrobat (PDF) readers for Sun,
Macintosh, and Windows. But does anyone know of any possiblity to
read .PDF files on a black-hardware NeXT?
---
Markus Lappe
Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum
Germany
From: user@vt.edu (user)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: help
Date: 18 Apr 1995 05:45:04 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech/Blacksburg Electronic Village
Message-ID: <3mvjl0$emt@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
any idea for unknown password machine in school's lab?
it seems to be forgoten for a while.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Problem with Magneto-Optical Drive!!
Date: 18 Apr 1995 05:53:28 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3mvk4o$n10@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3mu7ic$4io@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Gregory John Casamento writes
> Hi, I am having some trouble with my Magneto Optical drive. I just
> got some brand new disks and what seems to be happening is that when I
> insert one into the drive the drive tries to read it a couple of times
> and then spits the disk back out. The disk is okay, because I have
> tried inserting it into the drive of another cube at college whose
> configuration is similar to my machine. The machine at school
> recognizes that the disk is unreadable and then asks me if I want to
> format it, where my machine does *NOT* ask.
This is some weird intermittent problem which I have never figured out,
but which I believe may be thermal in origin. Try turning the machine
off for an hour or two, then booting up and formatting the disks
immediately. Even this strategy didn't help all that much when my
drive was having this problem (it went away as mysteriously as it came,
about two years ago), but the good news is that you only have to get
the disk formatted once, so persistence may be your best option. Of
course, if you have another machine available on which to format the
new disks, that will be easier.
I found a marvelous proof |====================================================
of Fermat's last theorem, | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
but then I lost the URL. |====================================================
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Problem with Magneto-Optical Drive!!
Date: 18 Apr 1995 05:53:54 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3mvk5i$n18@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3mu7ic$4io@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Gregory John Casamento writes
> Hi, I am having some trouble with my Magneto Optical drive. I just
> got some brand new disks and what seems to be happening is that when I
> insert one into the drive the drive tries to read it a couple of times
> and then spits the disk back out. The disk is okay, because I have
> tried inserting it into the drive of another cube at college whose
> configuration is similar to my machine. The machine at school
> recognizes that the disk is unreadable and then asks me if I want to
> format it, where my machine does *NOT* ask.
This is some weird intermittent problem which I have never figured out,
but which I believe may be thermal in origin. Try turning the machine
off for an hour or two, then booting up and formatting the disks
immediately. Even this strategy didn't help all that much when my
drive was having this problem (it went away as mysteriously as it came,
about two years ago), but the good news is that you only have to get
the disk formatted once, so persistence may be your best option. Of
course, if you have another machine available on which to format the
new disks, that will be easier.
I found a marvelous proof |====================================================
of Fermat's last theorem, | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
but then I lost the URL. |====================================================
From: peter@pandora (Peter Trygg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mac hypercard to NeXT?
Date: 18 Apr 1995 10:34:23 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <3n04jf$17re@columba.udac.uu.se>
Is it possible to convert a Mac Hypercard file
to _anything_ that is readable on a NeXT
thanks, Peter
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
Department of Theoretical Physics
Uppsala University
-------------------------------------------------------------
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web site for IRS forms & how to print them
Date: 17 Apr 1995 17:37:54 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3mu91i$6pf@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3mpiec$5kp@nrel.nrel.gov>
In article <3mpiec$5kp@nrel.nrel.gov> dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov writes:
> Then you can use the resulting unzip binary on the .exe files:
> ./unzip i2210.exe
> Inflating: i2210.ps
> Extracting: i2210.bat
> Warning: Preview shows all pages of the document superimposed, rendering
> it kinda hard to read :), but they *print* fine!
I tried the above example, and it worked fine.
However, note the problems when I tried it with the form
I actually need:
= laplace:11# unzip f4562.exe
=
= File: f4562.exe
=
= End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
= a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
= latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
= the last disk(s) of this archive.
Any ideas?
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Nextstep on my PC using its CD ROM
Date: 18 Apr 1995 16:29:53 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3n0pe1$4hd@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
References: <1995Apr3.172940.1474@almserv.uucp> <136444@cup.portal.com> <3mc7bl$4sr@pith.uoregon.edu>
ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell) wrote:
>>I am trying to install NeXTStep onto my PC (75MHz Pentium) using its
>>(quadspeed) CD ROM drive.
>>But the installation program doesn't register the CD ROM's driver.
>>How can I install NeXTStep onto my PC? (or where can I get the
driver
>>for the PC's CD ROM drvive?)
>Not only must it be SCSI, but it must be a supported SCSI controller,
and
>it must be using the same IRQ NS is expecting it to. For example, I
had a
>card based on the Adaptec AIC6X60 chip (which is supported), and even
*it*
>didn't work. I had to get a new SCSI controller. On top of this,
for
>reasons beyond my control I had to use IRQ 10 for the SCSI
controller, but
>NS insisted on looking for it at IRQ 11. I suspect the other drivers
are
>set up the same way.
>>>Sort of. You should be able to set the IRQ in the Confilgure.app
or at least edit the Instance0.table in that driver's directory. Any
driver that would only let you use one given IRQ is inferior by
present standards. I am not familiar with the AIC6X60 chip, but my
experience is that the Adaptec will let you change the board's IRQ.
NS only looks for the IRQ that the driver tells it to look for. (At
least in 3.2/3.3)
Thomas Wells,
Engineer,
Symbios Logic, Formerly NCR
>--
># Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
># ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and
ask:
># www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
># Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for Ron Pomeroy
Date: 18 Apr 1995 15:52:24 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3n0n7o$96t@shelob.afs.com>
Since there's no comp.sys.next.personals, this seemed like the next best
place to find missing persons. Ron, are you still out there? None of our
old information resolves, including physical mailing address. Anyone else
know where he is?
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: Seth Andrew Covitz <sc67+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DOS under NeXT
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:14:25 -0400
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8jYyJVq00YUp0EGVRN@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hi,
When I installed NeXTSTEP, it recognized what it thought was a DOS
drive and called it qrstu. However, when I look at that drive under
NeXTSTEP it appears garbled,etc. I do have three seperate DOS
partitions, but would be happy getting just one to work under
NeXTSTEP. How would I go about adding
this drive. I tried editing the /etc/mtab file, but it
keeps putting it back.... Any Ideas?
Seth
seth@cmu.edu
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: open doesn't work with the -a option
Date: 18 Apr 1995 01:44:26 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mv5hq$21q@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <1995Apr17.220320.2149@precipice.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <1995Apr17.220320.2149@precipice.fdn.fr> precipi!neekibo
(Hugues RICHARD) writes:
}~ When I try to open a file in shell with the open command, it doesn't
}~ work when I specifie the -a option.
}~
}~ For exemple if I type "open console.log", open launch Edit and open
}~ console.log, but if I type "open -a Edit.app console.log" it answers
}~ me :
}~
}~ >open: can't open connection to Edit.app on local host.
Try open -a Edit /tmp/console.log
}~ In this case, it is not very important but when I want to use Yap
}~ to open an eps file instead of Preview, I just can't!
}~
}~ I tried everything such as :
}~
}~ > open -a Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
}~ > open -a /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app my_eps_file.eps
}~ > open -a /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app/Yap my_eps_file.eps
What you missed was:
open -a Yap my_eps_file.eps
open -a Edit my_eps_file.eps
open -a Preview my_eps_file.eps
Note: ^^^ the NAME of the .app is used, no path nor '.app'
This is common with other usages. Defaults, for example, are stored
under the NAME of the application, without regard to its exact path or
app wrapper. That's why you use 'dread -o appname' for example. The
paradigm is carried through to the comparable calls used with the
NXWorkspaceRequest protocol.
Provided that the version of Yap you are using will accept open file
messages from Workspace (some versions don't), that should do it. Under
a heavy workload (i.e. heavily into swap), you may STILL get back the
message that Workspace was unable to open the file or app, but the
message will generally go through anyways. That returned failure is
based on no compliance within a given time. I haven't checked to see
if it's 'open' or 'Workspace' that times out - I just know I get it
EVERY login, because I run such close tolerances between capacities
and usage.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage construction area:<URL:http://metro.turnpike.net/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 18 Apr 1995 16:41:29 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3n0q3p$4hd@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
References: <3mukg6$u69@news.missouri.edu>
noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu (James S. Noble) wrote:
>My copy of OmniWeb (version 1.0 - prerelease) upon lauching states
that more
>than one user is using the software - therefore it locks up.
However, there is
>only one Instance of OmniWeb running. Any thoughts? Did the
prerelease have a
>"drop dead" date?
>Thanks,
>>>Are you using it on a "communal" internet link? We have noticed
the same thing here. There are two of us who regularly use OmniWeb
and we share a common internet node. Apparently OmniWeb will only
allow one instance per Internet node. So, you need to find out who
else has OmniWeb and then tell them to "EXIT THE DAMN PROGRAM ONCE IN
A WHILE!" so you can use it.
Thomas Wells
Engineer
Symbios Logic, formerly NCR
>JS Noble
>--
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>James S. Noble
>E-mail: noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu (including NeXT mail)
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: bschmidt@calon.com (Brian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to uncompress .gz ??
Date: 18 Apr 1995 17:41:38 GMT
Organization: WEST COAST ONLINE
Message-ID: <3n0tki$ptc@news.wco.com>
Using NS 3.3 for Intel, how can I uncompress a file with the .gz extension? Any help
appreciated.
-Brian
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mac hypercard to NeXT?
Date: 18 Apr 1995 18:40:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3n112u$b7o@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3n04jf$17re@columba.udac.uu.se>
In article <3n04jf$17re@columba.udac.uu.se> peter@pandora (Peter Trygg) writes:
>> Is it possible to convert a Mac Hypercard file
>> to _anything_ that is readable on a NeXT
>>
>> thanks, Peter
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
There is a NeXT (commercial) app which reads Hypercards stacks.
I think it was called HyperSense, but not sure.
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
From: fleck@horton.Colorado.EDU (David Fleck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT? Windows? DOS?
Date: 18 Apr 1995 22:25:05 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <3n1e81$qil@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
My spouse & I are planning a computer upgrade. We use our system for
word processing, statistics, statistical graphics, databases, C
programming (nothing very complex or fancy), modem/fax connections, some
goofing off (flight simulators, etc.) We both have some unix
experience. We will probably buy an Intel-based machine. We
want to be able to run Windows-based software. We want multitasking. We
want a CD-ROM. We don't especially want Windows. Is NeXTSTEP a
reasonable choice of operating systems, or will our requirements not use
it to its best advantage? Any ideas/recommendations?
David Fleck (david.fleck@colorado.edu)
From: mark@jehu.extern.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: RenderMan/animation recommendations
Date: 18 Apr 1995 19:16:05 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n135l$7sk@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: 3dkit, renderman, animation
I would like to include some animation in an application that I'm working
on. The animation would be simple: dice rolling across a table (yes, its
a craps game!).
Would using the 3DKit be overkill for such a project? If not, what are
some recommended books to read or applications to look at?
Is there a simple 3D rendering application that I could use to make
individual frames for the animation?
Any other suggestions would be appreciated...
--
==================================================================
Mark Trombino
trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D.
==================================================================
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Video Performance under NS-3.3
Date: 18 Apr 1995 15:18:39 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n0l8f$o2h@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3mela1$1sv@usenet.rpi.edu> <3muco9$vg@news.next.com> <3muqjs$do2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Mark Bessey (mark_bessey@next.com) wrote:
: [...]
: : _I_ know why 24-bit windows drag faster - it's a bug in 3.3.
: Will there be a bug fix available over NeXTanswers or do we have to
: wait for 3.4, eh 4.0?
No. Don't call it bug fix. Call it "greatly improved performance for
16bit color spaces in DPS" and you have a nice incentive for people to
buy 4.0...
[It's a pity, but XFree looks _much_faster_ than DPS on comparable PC
hardware. Maybe the case is that X windows tend to use a very limited
color space, but the the look-and-feel is definitely better in this
point. Scrolling in Netscape is much faster than in OmniWeb or
Edit. Also a point of UI quality IMHO.]
Gregor
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| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: RenderMan/animation recommendations
Message-ID: <1995Apr19.075103.1744@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <3n135l$7sk@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:51:03 GMT
In article <3n135l$7sk@network.ucsd.edu> mark@jehu.extern.ucsd.edu writes:
> I would like to include some animation in an application that I'm
working
> on. The animation would be simple: dice rolling across a table (yes,
its
> a craps game!).
>
> Would using the 3DKit be overkill for such a project? If not, what are
> some recommended books to read or applications to look at?
>
> Is there a simple 3D rendering application that I could use to make
> individual frames for the animation?
>
> Any other suggestions would be appreciated...
>
> --
> ==================================================================
> Mark Trombino
> trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
> Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D.
> ===========================
Hello
First .... You SHOULD BUY the "Renderman Companion" from Steve Upstill
Ref 50868 Addison Wesley
You can Use the 3D Kit....BUT.... Your are not sure that the 3D kit will be
supported in the future by NeXT ... ( it seems it will not supported on
Openstep)
then you can generate 3D RIB File with multiple frames which generate
multiple tiff files and then use a software like VDO Converter to create
NEXTIME ANIMATION
If you need help mail me ...
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
=======================================
From: sfr@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: problems with NS 2.1 AND NXfax
Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:55:18 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3n34o6$57a@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hallo
we are still working with a Nextstep 2.1 network.
we used NXFax on local machines
not in the net
now we want to read incoming faxes networkwide
but the old 2.1 faxreader sw needs a locally installed
fax (thats what it says, when you start it on a client machine,
the faxmodem correctly installed)
what is wrong
do I have to import the /usr/spool/Nextfax dir
from the faxserver to red faxes??
there is no problem with this under 3.0 or better!
is there anybody out there, who can still remember
the good old 2.1 days AND NXFax in a network??
thanx for any hint
later
Stephan
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Error in Draw.app ?
Date: 19 Apr 95 16:16:06 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mp.798308166@maud>
Hi,
question: I try to find the option to produce not only
upper round curves, but also lower curves.
I can produce things like:
___ ___
/ \
| and |
| |
but I cannot:
| |
| |
\___ ___/
Any idea ?
My setup: Draw.app 3.0, NS 3.1, NeXTstation, mono
Thanks,
Martin (M.Pruefer@tu-bs.de)
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From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to uncompress .gz ??
Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:53:29 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3n34kp$llv@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3n0tki$ptc@news.wco.com>
Brian (bschmidt@calon.com) wrote:
: Using NS 3.3 for Intel, how can I uncompress a file with the .gz extension? Any help
: appreciated.
: -Brian
gunzip file
Otto
From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to read .PDF files on a NeXT
Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:22:05 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood City, CA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SPETERS.95Apr19112206@samsun.us.oracle.com>
References: <3n0obd$dc4@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
In-reply-to: lappe@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de's message of 18 Apr 1995 16:11:25 GMT
In article <3n0obd$dc4@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> lappe@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Dr. Markus Lappe) writes:
> Playing around with the World Wide Web, I noticed that many documents
> are distributed in PDF format, the format of Adobe Acrobat. I
> realised that there are free Acrobat (PDF) readers for Sun,
> Macintosh, and Windows. But does anyone know of any possiblity to
> read .PDF files on a black-hardware NeXT?
You can grab Tailor.app from the archives -- it can read and display
PDF files without any fuss. Be aware that the demo version doesn't
allow printing or saving, so if you use PDF a lot you'll probably want
to buy it.
Also note that the current version of Tailor doesn't handle the
automatic font substitution that Adobe's Acrobat readers have, so be
prepared to see lots of Courier if you don't have the right fonts...
Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Frontend for refdbms
Keywords: refdbms
References: <3mi01k$9je@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:46:53 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Apr19.044653.1186@proximus.north.de>
In article <3mi01k$9je@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
John Nicol <jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca> wrote:
>Is there a NEXTSTEP frontend for Refdbms 3 - a distributed bibliographic
>database system?
Yes, there is, at least for finding refs and quoting. (Not for maintainance
of the DB) - Anyone written a cgi script for that?
It was a personal project by Derek Beatty for his Thesis and is called
Citer.app. He sent it to me, and probably won't mind if I'd send it to you.
(Or do you?) How about putting it on the archives, Derek?
Note, however, that compiling the latest version I found (alpha 16,
prerelease 9) refdbms is not that easy (you have to fix sources), if you
haven't already done so.
Hey, maybe, refdbms could be put on the archives as a pkg with Citer.app?
Contact me if I should email (NeXTmail ok?) it. (Derek, contact me, if I
shouldn't for some reason...)
Gerhard.
N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N
e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: bill@otherwise.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Erratic mouse with 3.3 on Intel GX workstation
Date: 19 Apr 1995 15:23:39 GMT
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3n39tr$5vj@giga.bga.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Has anyone come up with a solution to the erratic mouse behavior under 3.3
on the Intel GX workstation. I know the problem has been discussed here
before but I don't recall seeing a solution.
Basically the problem is that a PS/2 style mouse seems to make the
cursor jump around as it is moved across the screen. The problem never
happened in 3.2.
--
Bill Tschumy
Otherwise
bill@otherwise.com
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted)
From: ian@candela.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Ian Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Li####################################################################
From: Eren Kotan on root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Serial port speed on black hardware
Date: 19 Apr 1995 21:08:40 GMT
Organization: SoNet - The first Internet provider on the south coast
Message-ID: <3n3u4o$dil@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
I am using a NextCube 040 with a Hayes Accura 28800 modem, however, I
cannot seem to use speeds higher than 38400 bps. Is this a limitation of
the NeXT hardware? Any help is most welcome
Eren Kotan, NeXTMail OK!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: NeXT Sales Sucks
Message-ID: <D7AHyC.3Iu@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:03:47 GMT
I am certain that I am not the only one upset by the lack of sales support
provided by NeXT. I am beginning to believe that NeXT is its own worst
enemy. I find it incredible that people at NeXT are so stupid as to
assume that you can use an answering machine as a replacement for human
contact in an order taking environment. Could it be that they think someone
will wait patiently at a phone in anticipation of receiving a return call
so that they may place an order?
It can't require a very high skill level to simply take an order, especially
given the "wonderful NeXT User Interface". Are jobs so plentiful on the
west cost that you can not hire people who are willing to stay by a
telephone and respond to orders. It is like refusing to take money!
To add insult to injury, after repeated attempts to place an order and
finally receiving a return call -- there was never a human on the other
end to receive my call -- I placed my order for an Academic update ($99)
for NS Developer 3.3. However, I was charged $749.00 for a commercial
upgrade. Once again I am fighting the answering machine battle!
If anyone in a management position at NeXT is reading this mail:
"Fire your Sales Department Manager!"
I don't know why it is that technically competent people are so poor
at running a business.
A very dissapointed customer,
Tim
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tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Erratic mouse with 3.3 on Intel GX workstation
In-Reply-To: bill@otherwise.com's message of 19 Apr 1995 15:23:39 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Apr19223643@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3n39tr$5vj@giga.bga.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:36:43 GMT
Try the new PS/2 mouse driver available on NeXTanswers.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Terminal Strangness
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:37:11 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4jZOmrS00iV2I_VlEN@andrew.cmu.edu>
I compiled the local newsreader for NS3.3 and I'm having some problems
running it in Intel Terminal.app. It seems to work fine in the Black
Terminal.app but has two errors in the Intel version.
1) The left and right arrow keys don't work. They produce some control
key sequences.
2) Instead of giving me a straight line ------------------- it gives
-$$$-$$$-$$$-$$$-$$$-$$$-$$$-.
Anyone know how to fix either or both of these problems?
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Leo Turetsky <esp> leo+@cmu.edu (NeXTmail Welcome) |
|----------------------------------------------------+
| Carnegie-Mellon University | Leo, your mom called. |
+----------------------------------------------------+
From: Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Emacs exit code
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:39:27 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <cjZOozO00iV2E_VmFL@andrew.cmu.edu>
I am using the latest Emacs package for the NeXT from orst and sometimes
when I hit control-x control-c to exit it just beeps at me as does
nothing. Sometimes control-x control-f will exit in that case but
sometimes not as well. Anyone know why?
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Leo Turetsky <esp> leo+@cmu.edu (NeXTmail Welcome) |
|----------------------------------------------------+
| Carnegie-Mellon University | Leo, your mom called. |
+----------------------------------------------------+
From: michael@hesta2 (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for Lorin Rivers
Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:34:49 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n3hjp$2tt@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <3n0n7o$96t@shelob.afs.com>
Has anyone herad what happened to ALTSYS? Or Lorin Rivers, a fellow
who worked there? They developed VIRTUOSO and all his mail kicks back
to me now...(sigh)
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Erratic mouse with 3.3 on Intel GX workstation
Date: 19 Apr 1995 19:12:26 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3n3naq$k4d@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
References: <3n39tr$5vj@giga.bga.com>
bill@otherwise.com (Bill Tschumy) wrote:
>Has anyone come up with a solution to the erratic mouse behavior
under 3.3
>on the Intel GX workstation. I know the problem has been discussed
here
>before but I don't recall seeing a solution.
>Basically the problem is that a PS/2 style mouse seems to make the
>cursor jump around as it is moved across the screen. The problem
never
>happened in 3.2.
I found that my cause for this problem was the MicroSoft mouse I was
using.
thomas wells, symnbios logic
>--
>Bill Tschumy
>Otherwise
>bill@otherwise.com
>(NeXTmail and MIM####################################################################
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From: rmasse@cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Lipservice plays wrong clip
Date: 19 Apr 1995 21:22:16 GMT
Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives
Lines: 12
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n3uu8$jp@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US>
Keywords: lipservice
On my NS 3.3 Pentium I find that when I double click on either a NeXT mail
or MIME mail lipservice attachment, I get the last recording that *I* did,
rather than the recorded message that was mailed to me. Anyone else seen
this problem?
Regards,
Roger E. Masse, Systems Engineer
Corporation for National Research Initiatives
1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100
Reston, Virginia, USA 22091
Internet: rmasse@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (MIME/NeXTmail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9504191929.AA29835@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:29:48 -0400
Subject: Console log ownership m68k vs Intel
On Black NeXTs, the /tmp/console.log is owned by root with permissions:
-rw-rw-rw-
On Intels, the /tmp/console.log is owned by the user currently logged
in on console with permissions:
-rw-------
Anyone want to suggest why the change occurred?
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Message-ID: <1995Apr13.221146.7715@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com> <3mjhcu$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:11:46 GMT
emstech@sound.music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
wrote:
>Steven M. Hoffman (steveh@sashimi.wwa.com) wrote:
>: Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
>: but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
>: news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
>: Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
>: Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
>: to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
>: are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
>: Thanks to all who reply.
>: Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
>Forget "newsgrazer" use "tin" .. doesn't have Next interface but it's
perfect!
>;-)
>--
>Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
>Music Faculty, Mcgill University Voice: (514) 398-4552
Try Alexandra.app
It's GUI and cool (I am posting this with Alexandra)
Fabien
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Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Help! Changing Icons are Driving Me Crazy
Message-ID: <1995Apr19.214545.11248@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <D774H9.CvB@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:45:45 GMT
scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott) wrote:
>by nearly all of the share-ware programs I have installed
>on my machine. TeXEdit changed the icon for *.tex files,
>greyboard changed the icon for *.draw files, etc. I have
>been trying unsuccessfully to change them back to the
>system defaults. Changing the application which automatically
>launches when the icon is double-clicked makes no difference.
>Changing the icon in the *.app directory for the offending
>application also does not restore the original icon.
> Any other ideas out there? I noticed a file in the ~/.NeXT
>directory called suffixes3_0.wmd. It looked promising because
>it lists all file extensions and the application associated
>to that extension. But, changes to that file were not
>recognized by the file viewer.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Ryan
>ps Other users on this system seem to have been spared. I
> don't know if it has to do with permission settings or
> something else, but it may be a clue.
Hilite the document
Use Command-3
Select the icon of the default app
Click Ok
Hope this helps
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NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
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Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HPLJ3 non-ps drivers
Date: 20 Apr 1995 01:24:58 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n4d5a$aqq@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3n3a0v$nrb@kelowna.awinc.com>
root@husayn (Operator) wrote:
>Hi, I have an HPLJ3 compatible printer (non-postscript) and I am
>trying to find a non-postscript driver for it. Any clues. I've
>been through quite a few of the ftp-sites, but please do say if I've
>missed something.
>Christian.
>israfil@bowest.awinc.com
You might want to try ghostHPDJ0.2.tar.gz available at ftp.cs.orst.edu
This package was developed for NS3.2 and HP color inkjet printers.
With it and ghostscript also available at orst you should be able to
get a non-postscript printer to work.
One thing that seems to have changed from NS3.2 to 3.3 is the Netinfo
settings for a printer. These are my settings for a Canon BJ200:
-- Bios setup on Intel Premiere II should be set for EPP type parallel port
otherwise NeXTStep might not find parallel port hardware and therefore not
create /dev/pp0
-- Netinfo settings for a Canon BJ200
name printerName
lf /usr/adm/lpd-errs
sf
sb
lp /dev/null
mx 0
if /usr/local/bin/filt.sh **this script does the printing
cf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pscf
df /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psdf
gf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psgf
nf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psnf
rf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psrf
tf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf
vf /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/psvf
ty Unknown
note This is a new printer
nxformat 3.0
sd /usr/spool/NeXT/printerName
af /usr/adm/printerName.acct
--Admin
name Admin
CoverSheet 0
--Comm
name Comm
CommClass NXParallelPSComm
CommType Parallel
UniqueName NXPSParallel
InitJobFiles NXShared/ehandler.ps
SendingInterruptable NO
MaxWriteBlockSize 4096
OutputPath /dev/null
--Device
name Device
FormatList PostscriptPages
DriverClass NXPSDriver
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far@earthlink.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
Agoura Hills, CA # to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
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(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How does Workspace get started?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:46:50 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3n5l3q$nv0@newstand.syr.edu>
I've looked in all the rc scripts and can't find where Workspace Manager
gets started. Is it built into the login program? ( Black 3.2.)
Is there a way to boot a NeXT to multi-user mode and get a shell prompt
on the plain grey screen ?
Just curious (I love the GUI.)
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
************************************************************************
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:06:42 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3n5ioi$4ql@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3n3ujh$37lp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3n3ujh$37lp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
> It appears OmniWeb is able to tell if a copy is running anywhere on our
> subnet. A number of different groups have nodes on this subnet and if one
> person is running OmniWeb from one of the other groups, nobody can run it
> anywhere else. I sent email to OmniGroup explaining the situation and I
> never got a reply (other than their automated receipt message). We are
> willing to pay for licenses for our group's usage but I am wondering if
> that is really going to solve the problem.
Hi.
I wrote a note to Lighthouse, asking them about this. Following is their
reply (along with my questions). Note that I don't think this really
clears up the question. It looks like the only consistent interpretation
is that the academic licensing might be per MACHINE rather than per LICENSE.
From: Janet Hufnagel <janet@lighthouse.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:01:52 -0700
To: Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Welcome to Lighthouse Design's OmniWeb!
Cc: omniweb@lighthouse.com
Hello Robert,
Thanks for writing, and sorry for the delay in responding.
>Is there some way to tell what machine is claiming the
license?
No.
>How far does it look for other users?
It may look across subnets for others with the same license. It at
least looks within the same subnet.
>Am I competing with all of MIT to use the one floating
license?
Yes.
> If I buy more licenses, am I going to have to
share them with everyone at MIT?
No, because you'll have your own license key that noone else will have.
At your university only 1 person can run OmniWeb free. Any other
persons who will run the application will need to pay for additional
licenses.
Thanks again, and hope this helps.
---
Janet Hufnagel
Customer Support and Training
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:36:11 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Message-ID: <3n5kfr$nq2@newstand.syr.edu>
References: <3n0q3p$4hd@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM> <3n3ujh$37lp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3n3ujh$37lp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
>
>It appears OmniWeb is able to tell if a copy is running anywhere on our
>subnet. A number of different groups have nodes on this subnet and if one
>person is running OmniWeb from one of the other groups, nobody can run it
>anywhere else. I sent email to OmniGroup explaining the situation and I
>never got a reply (other than their automated receipt message). We are
>willing to pay for licenses for our group's usage but I am wondering if
>that is really going to solve the problem.
>
We have exactly the same situation here. I wrote to OmniGroup about it and
received a prompt and courteous reply telling me that individuals could
send $49 to Omniweb and would receive in return a license number. That
would make the problem go away.
This raises a larger question: on other (inferior IMHO) platforms there are
a number of free web browsers available, e.g. netscape and mosaic. On the
NeXT the only viable options I know of are
1) Install CoXist ( about $250 for a slow X-windows emulator ) and run
Mosaic or Netscape.
2) Send $49 to OmniGroup.
3) Buy EOF and run the new French browser whose name escapes me at the
moment ( Spider something or other ?).
Are there any other alternatives, esp. any that are FREE?
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: 3.3 and DBKit?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD7C245.C2t@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:16:52 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom3.netcom.com
Hi,
Does the 3.3 Intel release break any parts of the DBKit? In other words,
I have a DBKit application that compiles and runs using 3.2 user/developer.
Is this application guaranteed to compile and run, without modification,
under 3.3? Does anyone have any experience with this transition? Any
tips appreciated. Thanks.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:53:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n5lfe$pjj@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3n5ioi$4ql@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <3n5ioi$4ql@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes:
>>Is there some way to tell what machine is claiming the
>license?
>
>No.
There is a way to determine this, though it's not absolutely reliable.
Assuming that no local machine (within your NetInfo) is not using
OmniWeb.
After OmniWeb quits, do "netstat".
Look for tcp port pairs that has the port 2453 on each connection,
and with a host you do not recognize. That is the most likely candidate
on which OmniWeb is being run.
This will work if not many people use -NXHost and Distributed Object
apps across the net.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: andres@may (Fernando Andres Cuenca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Somebody subscribed to Object Magazine and/or JOOP ?
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:46:09 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Apr18.164609.16812@heinz.com>
Organization: F. HEINZ Consultora
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
Keywords: SIGS Magazine Subscription
Five months ago I sent a subscription card to SIGS Publications asking for one
year subscription to Object Magazine and JOOP. A month later, the payment was
discounted from my credit card account but I didn't receive any other notice
from SIGS.
I have e-mailed to the address they indicate for subscription information
(p00976@psilink.com) but nobody answered me (I tried also
70754.1111@compuserve.com with the same result).
So, I would like to know if anybody has subscribed 'successfully' to Object
Magazine and/or JOOP and where I can e-mail SIGS to get some information.
Thanks in advance.
--
Fernando A. Cuenca (andres@heinz.com)
F. Heinz Consultora
Cordoba, Argentina
<< NeXT Mail accepted >>
From: Eren Kotan on root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP: Installing Cnews
Date: 21 Apr 1995 00:20:04 GMT
Organization: SoNet - The first Internet provider on the south coast
Message-ID: <3n6tnk$ql7@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Hi all, I have a NeXT cube connected to the Net via SLIP. I can read
network news via NewsGrazer, and am now trying to install cnews in order
to spend less time downloading news :)
The trouble is, I cannot get it to work, even after following the
instructions, so I would appreciate it if someone who has managed to
install cnews successfully before could email me and give me a hand.
Thanks,
Eren Kotan root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk NeXTMail OK!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <cetesse@ukcc.uky.edu>
Message-ID: <v02110102abbc836e2f2a@[128.163.11.66]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:41:33 -0400
From: cetesse@ukcc.uky.edu (Christopher Etesse)
Subject: Appletalk connection and NS3.3
Does anyone know if NS3.3 user and NS3.3developer for motorola fixed the
Appletalk connection module?
Thanks
-Chris
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul M Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How does Workspace get started?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:39:03 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3n5rm7$a64@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <3n5l3q$nv0@newstand.syr.edu>
Terry R. McConnell (mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu) wrote:
: I've looked in all the rc scripts and can't find where Workspace Manager
: gets started. Is it built into the login program? ( Black 3.2.)
This is what happens when you turn on your machine in general:
The computer loads the Mach kernel into the memory from disk or across the
network from a boot server. System hardware is reset, device drivers are
loaded, kernel data structures initialized, kernel threads are started, and
the root file system is mounted. Once the file system is mounted, the
program /etc/init ( a symbolic link to /usr/etc/init ) is executed. This
program runs the various rc scripts to bring the machine up into multi-
user mode. Now that any necessary system processes and daemons are running,
the init program executes /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow which is a link to
the executable within /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app.
: Is there a way to boot a NeXT to multi-user mode and get a shell prompt
: on the plain grey screen ?
Once the login window appears, you can type the word "console" in the name
blank and hit return twice. This will bring up the kind of shell prompt
that you want.
For more detailed information on the NEXTSTEP startup and shutdown processes
and the differences between Intel and NeXT hardware (HP seems to be similar
if not identical to Intel and I assume Sun is similar to Intel as well),
read Chapter 9 in the NEXTSTEP System adn Network Administration manual in
the on-line documentation if installed or on the distribution CD-ROM.
: Just curious (I love the GUI.)
Curiosity is the way you learn the things you may find yourself in a position
to *need* to know in the future. I'm all for it. :)
--
Paul M. Cardon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame
From: dimitri@duti609a.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Can FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP print MIF or MML in batch?
Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:50:10 GMT
Message-ID: <D7C0vn.M4z@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Dear Net,
After asking this question to dealers and distributors of Frame in the
Netherlands, and having received no answer, just before I panic,
I turn to the Net.
The subject actually states it all. Is it possible to let FrameMaker
for NEXTSTEP print out a MIF or a MML file by either
a) starting it as a background process without UI with certain
switches
or
b) by starting it beforehand and message it via RPCs.
I also need to be able to specify the exact style to use.
I heard that for certain platforms APIs are available for this
purpose. However, no API seem to exist for the NEXTSTEP version. Can
anybody confirm whether this is true and whether there is no other way
to message FrameMaker? Are there or are there no Remote Procedures which
I can use in FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP?
As a last resort: if answers to my questions are 'NO', will there be a
4.0 release with an API for NEXTSTEP in the future?
Thanks in advance,
Dimitri
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+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Delft University of Technology | NeGeN |
| Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland |
| Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe |
| and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: rmasse@cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Reading *.wn files?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 19:24:31 GMT
Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n6cdf$eeb@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US>
What tool is capable of reading *.wn files? Thanks!
Regards,
Roger E. Masse, Systems Engineer
Corporation for National Research Initiatives
1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100
Reston, Virginia, USA 22091
Internet: rmasse@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (MIME/NeXTmail OK)
From: tseg@access5.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,dc.jobs
Subject: US-Washington-DC, NeXTStep, ObjectiveC, Telecom; TSEG, Ltd.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 20 Apr 1995 17:35:12 -0400
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Summary: Long term contract
Keywords: OOD, SS5, SONET, DMS-100
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
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Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9504211357.AA16600@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:57:25 -0400
Subject: Re: open doesn't work with the -a option
Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com
When I try to open a file in shell with the open
command, it doesn't work when I specifie the -a option.
NeXT's open should be renamed 'broken' and left alone.
In this case, it is not very important but when I want
to use Yap to open an eps file instead of Preview, I
just can't!
I don't know if this would work, but in your Workspace Manager,
select an .eps file and then go to the Tools/Inspector. One of the 4
sub-windows on that panel should show you which app is used as the
default. If YAP appears when you select the .eps file, select it.
Read on for another option.
I also played with the public "window server" option
with no result.
EEk. Change that back immediately. It is bad to do this, and worse
to announce it on the 'net.
I've checked everything... (I think)
You forgot one thing: ftp.
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.
NI.b.tar.gz (22332)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.
README (649)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.
s.tar.gz (10593)
This is the very excellent replacement for NeXT's broken-open. The
"-a" option works great.
good luck
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Any serious project management apps?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 17:34:34 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <3n65va$ldj@gateway.wiltel.com>
I'm needing to find a SERIOUS project management application for the NeXT.
Does anyone know of any?
It is HARD to learn about new NeXT applications!
Mike Zemina
If you have info, please eMail: mike_zemina@wiltel.com
--
/*Proverb: "Sensible people will see trouble coming
and avoid it, but an unthinking person will walk
right into it and regret it later."*/
//I'm from South Dakota. I only work in Oklahoma!
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How does Workspace get started?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 10:21:52 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3n8f20$pg9@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <3n5l3q$nv0@newstand.syr.edu> <3n5rm7$a64@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In article <3n5rm7$a64@hamblin.math.byu.edu>,
Paul M Cardon <pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote:
>Terry R. McConnell (mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu) wrote:
>: I've looked in all the rc scripts and can't find where Workspace Manager
>: gets started. Is it built into the login program? ( Black 3.2.)
>
>This is what happens when you turn on your machine in general:
>
[..munch..]
>the init program executes /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow which is a link to
>the executable within /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app.
>: Is there a way to boot a NeXT to multi-user mode and get a shell prompt
>: on the plain grey screen ?
>Once the login window appears, you can type the word "console" in the name
>blank and hit return twice. This will bring up the kind of shell prompt
>that you want.
The place to see how init knows to run loginwindow is /etc/ttys. The
line that starts "console" determines which program gets control of the
console. On my 3.2 system there is also a commented out line which
shows how to run getty on the console. This is the program which will
give you the login prompt in a more "traditional" workstation way. I'm
not going to try it but it should ask for your name and password in
a manner that looks similar to when you telnet to your NeXT.
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Message-ID: <D7F1Iu.JvD@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <PAUL.95Apr15152529@amber.umsl.edu> <D74p9u.IDy@sounds.wa.com> <PAUL.95Apr17081551@amber.umsl.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:56:53 GMT
In article <PAUL.95Apr17081551@amber.umsl.edu>,
Paul J. Sanchez <paul@whimsy.umsl.edu> wrote:
>
>My recollection is that Mouse-X claimed only to work on slabs, period.
>I never bothered to try it on a mono cube, and it wasn't ported to
>Intel, let alone the new architectures. So listing it as a ND
>incompatibility just struck me as odd, given that there is a ND
>capable solution out there.
>
Mouse-X works quite happily on a mono cube. The fonts are a little strange
sometimes (Netscape is *huge*!) but I've had no problems with it.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Message-ID: <D7F1Mq.JxH@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3mkdia$qhv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3mmb7o$fi1@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3movck$p4q@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:59:13 GMT
In article <3movck$p4q@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>More MIDI info:
>
>In the developer version of NS 2.x there's a demo app called Ensemble
> (in/NextDeveloper/Demos/).
>
>From README_Sound&Music.wn:
> Ensemble allows you to read standard MIDI files and orchestrate
> them, or perform music from a MIDI keyboard using a MIDI interface
> connected to a serial port.
>
>I believe this was removed from NS 3.x along with the Music Kit, but
>with a NS license, this can be freely copied from someone with
>NS 2.x Developer. (At least you could with a 2.x NS license.)
>
Ensemble comes with the CCRMA Music Kit (now at version 4.1 or so).
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Message-ID: <D7Du6J.IL8@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <3msrs5$b5f@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:20:42 GMT
In article <3msrs5$b5f@hpscit.sc.hp.com> klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) writes:
#In article <D72n2C.3BI@sounds.wa.com>,
#Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com> wrote:
#>Let's see, the list of incompatible software includes X-Windows and NEXTIME.
#>NEXTIME might even work with the new Interceptor
#[...]
#>If you don't find viewing 24-bit color images and real-time video in a
#>window "truly useful" compared to 2-bit gray, I don't know what will convince
#>you :-)
#
#I was thinking about NEXTIME in particular. When it was shown
#several years ago, I was excited at the possibility of using an
#ND with NEXTIME; but was disappointed when those at NeXT said
#that the ND didn't have the throughput needed. If someone out
#there can try NEXTIME with an ND and post the results, I would
#greatly appreciate it.
I don't have throughput numbers but it definitely
works.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Pustilnik Mark <a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: !!!HELP!!! A few questions about NeXT slab
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:00:37 GMT
Hello. We have NeXT slab with 8MB of RAM and 040 25MHz proceccor. We
intend to use it for Internet services. So we have a few questions:
1. What kind of memory chips do we have to get in order to upgrade it to
16MB or 32MB ?
2. Will any external SCSI hard-drive be compatible with our NeXT or do we
have to get certain models ?
3. Where can we get binaries or sources for IRC (Internet Relay Chat
program) and some WWW browser (both GUI and text-based like lynx) for
NeXTSTEP.
We currently have NeXTSTEP 2.1 and looking for anyone who would
sell us 3.0 or 3.1 with developer's applications.
Please respond as soon as possible.
Please do not post to the news group, e-mail to a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu.
Thanx in advance.
Mark.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
Subject: Some info please
Message-ID: <D7G6FE.9H@mrk.com>
Sender: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
Organization: Investor's Advantage
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:40:26 GMT
Hi all
After 8 months in the Amazon rain forest of Venezuela doing (believe it or not)
computer work on a NeXTSTATION Color Turbo, I am back. However, even though I
had computers I obviously didn't have Net connections so I wasn't able to stay
up to date on what has been happening in the computer world in general and the
NEXT world in particular. I was wondering if some kind soul who has a good
memory could post some kind of synopsis of the happenings since last August.
It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx in advance
jerald dawson
--
jerald dawson * Owner / Consultant * Dawson Consulting
NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com |
phone - (708) 526-3727 | Chicago? Been there. Done that.
From: wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu (William V Fleitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Date: 22 Apr 1995 14:45:17 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3nb4pt$4mj@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Pustilnik Mark <a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! A few questions about NeXT slab
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950421124940.20236D-100000@eddie>
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:08:20 GMT
On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Pustilnik Mark wrote:
> Hello. We have NeXT slab with 8MB of RAM and 040 25MHz proceccor. We
> intend to use it for Internet services. So we have a few questions:
>
> 1. What kind of memory chips do we have to get in order to upgrade it to
> 16MB or 32MB ?
>
> 2. Will any external SCSI hard-drive be compatible with our NeXT or do we
> have to get certain models ?
>
> 3. Where can we get binaries or sources for IRC (Internet Relay Chat
> program) and some WWW browser (both GUI and text-based like lynx) for
> NeXTSTEP.
> We currently have NeXTSTEP 2.1 and looking for anyone who would
> sell us 3.0 or 3.1 with developer's applications.
> Please respond as soon as possible.
> Please do not post to the news group, e-mail to a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu.
> Thanx in advance.
> Mark.
>
>
>
Hi it's me again. There is one question. Is there program for NeXTSTEP
that will allow our users to transfer the file from our machine to theirs
through modems? Sort of like UNIX command sz?
Thanx in advance.
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 22 Apr 1995 23:36:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3nc3um$2rn@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <3msrs5$b5f@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <D7Du6J.IL8@infoserv.com>
In article <D7Du6J.IL8@infoserv.com>, <kent@infoserv.com> wrote:
[about ND and NEXTIME]
>I don't have throughput numbers but it definitely
>works.
I got contradicting email from Sam Goldberger. He says that the ND
can't sync audio with the video. I think this deficiency is
unacceptable and I am therefore inclined to say that NEXTIME does
not work on an ND. And Sam has tried it with 33-, 40-, and 50-Mhz
cubes.
Ken
--
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Computing & Technology Services Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Client/Server Engineering 1.415.857.3230 FAX 1.415.857.5518
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Any serious project management apps?
Message-ID: <1995Apr22.103951.5375@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <3n65va$ldj@gateway.wiltel.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:39:51 GMT
In article <3n65va$ldj@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike
Zemina) writes:
> I'm needing to find a SERIOUS project management application for the NeXT.
> Does anyone know of any?
TaskMaster from LightHouse Design. (info@lighthouse.com)
Haven't tried it but I think it is good.
Hugues.
--
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb License Info
Date: 23 Apr 1995 02:26:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3ncds3$5ai@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3n3ujh$37lp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3n5ioi$4ql@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes:
>I wrote a note to Lighthouse, asking them about this. Following is their
>reply (along with my questions). Note that I don't think this really
>clears up the question. It looks like the only consistent interpretation
>is that the academic licensing might be per MACHINE rather than per LICENSE.
>From: Janet Hufnagel >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:01:52 -0700
>To: Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu>
>Subject: Re: Welcome to Lighthouse Design's OmniWeb!
>Cc: omniweb@lighthouse.com
>Hello Robert,
>Thanks for writing, and sorry for the delay in responding.
>>Is there some way to tell what machine is claiming the
>license?
>No.
>>How far does it look for other users?
>It may look across subnets for others with the same license. It at
>least looks within the same subnet.
It's funny that neither OmniGroup nor Lighthouse know how their
licensing code works. OmniGroup just said, "We had it written
out-of-house, I'm not sure how it works." It looks like Lighthouse
is just guessing with wrong answers. I assume it does a broadcast
packet, and unless your routers are configured so that they will
pass broadcast packets between subnets (very unlikely at a
University), it will only detect OmniWeb's being run on your own
subnet.
If it does something other than broadcast packets, I'd like to know
how they do it! Without a known license server running, there is no
way to coordinate information about instances on different subnets.
>>Am I competing with all of MIT to use the one floating
>license?
>Yes.
This just can't be. Lighthouse is probably saying this based on the
fact that at their site, where all of their subnets are probably
bridged, only one person can run the unlicensed version at a time.
Universities usually have complex routers between their subnets that
won't pass broadcast packets.
>> If I buy more licenses, am I going to have to
>share them with everyone at MIT?
>No, because you'll have your own license key that noone else will have.
>At your university only 1 person can run OmniWeb free. Any other
>persons who will run the application will need to pay for additional
>licenses.
>Thanks again, and hope this helps.
>---
>Janet Hufnagel
>Customer Support and Training
>Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
I find it hard to believe.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: chan@kkchan.pc.my (Chan Kok Kiat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 3.2 486 questions
Message-ID: <798602264.61snx@kkchan.pc.my>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 95 01:57:44 GMT
Hi,
Recently my friend gave me his NS 3.2 as he no longer using it. I tried to
installing into one of the 486-DX2 PC in my office and it works perfectly. The
NEC multispin 4X CD ROM works perfectly with the adaptec card, AHA 1742 was
used to install the files into a 2G barracuda hard disk. I have installed
the NS 3.2 but yet to install NS 3.2 development kit. I am going to erase
off the NS from the office PC and install into my PC later.
I do little exploring on NS 3.2 and here are my questions,
1) Is there a slip support for NS 3.2 ? I tried to look everywhere in the
hard disk for slip but all I can find something to do with fax ???
I am thinking of using the NS for uucp and slip to access Internet via
a 14.4k modem.
2) When I install the NS, my video card is a Cirrus logic, the setup does not
include a video driver for Cirrus, so I choose VGA. However there is no
colour, only monochrome although the RAM is 32M. Must I have the video
card support by NS ?
3) I am planning to do some development on my own pc (486 DX2 8M ram
and ide hard disk), how much disk space is require ? In the documentation
it stated that 8M, 16M and 32M but just to find out, is 8M enough ?
4) Does NS 3.2 486 reads Macintosh floppy ? I insert a Macintosh floppy but
the NS does not recognize the floppy disk.
Thanks in advance.
--
[ Chan Kok Kiat (K. K. Chan) -- chan@kkchan.pc.my ]
[ Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. ]
From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: More NeXTcube questions
Date: 23 Apr 1995 04:08:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ncjrq$nlh@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Greetings all,
I've just recently purchased a NeXTcube and I've got a few questions:
1. Does the cube use standard SIMMs, or are they NeXT-specific? Also,
can anyone recommend a good source for memory?
2. Do most SCSI drives work in the cube? I've got a Micropolis 2210
(1050 MB) drive that I'm currently using on my Intel machine
(running NS3.2), and I wanted to put that drive in the cube.
Does anyone foresee a problem with this? Oh yeah, this is an
internal drive.
3. Finally, I just wanted to know how difficult it is to replace the
current drive in the cube. It seems to be a full-height drive, but
I want to replace it with a half-height drive. Do I need any sort
of extra mounting brackets or such?
Thanks for any help,
..faizel
--
Faizel Dakri
faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
From: Brian Wilson <bwilson@zippy.sonoma.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: More NeXTcube questions
Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:37:09 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <3ncp25$cr5@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <3ncjrq$nlh@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
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SIMM's - I pulled 9 bit SIMM's from a Sun 3/60 and put them into a cube with
no problems. They've been running in there for about a year now.
So my limited experience indicates any Mac or IBM 30 pin SIMM should
work if it's fast enough.
HD's - I just put a Fujitsu 540 MB drive into the cube, it's a 3.5"
half height drive, I used some 3.5 to 5.25 adapters that came with
another drive and it bolts right in... you wont have any problems at
all putting a half height 5.25 drive in.
I've tried a few other SCSI drives and they all seem to work so far.
--Brian
From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mac hypercard to NeXT?
Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:56:41 GMT
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Message-ID: <3ne7t9$944@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3n04jf$17re@columba.udac.uu.se> <3n112u$b7o@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <3n112u$b7o@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
[ ]
>
> There is a NeXT (commercial) app which reads Hypercards stacks.
> I think it was called HyperSense, but not sure.
Yes, HyperSense is a great program. I find it way better than Hypercard. Plus
the people who sell/make it are great! There's a demo on orst.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Emacs exit code
Message-ID: <D7FMqr.By@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:35:15 GMT
In article <cjZOozO00iV2E_VmFL@andrew.cmu.edu> Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I am using the latest Emacs package for the NeXT from orst and sometimes
> when I hit control-x control-c to exit it just beeps at me as does
> nothing. Sometimes control-x control-f will exit in that case but
> sometimes not as well. Anyone know why?
If system load is high, sometimes the control part of a key-combination seems to get lost.
This is true for all apps, not just emacs.
(Try shift-clicking files in a file-viewer under heavy load. Chances are already selected files get
deselected)
Juergen
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== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: More NeXTcube questions
Date: 23 Apr 1995 23:06:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3nemhv$1io@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <3ncjrq$nlh@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3ncjrq$nlh@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Faizel Dakri <faizel@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> 1. Does the cube use standard SIMMs
30-pin low-profile SIMMs at 100ns or faster.
> 2. Do most SCSI drives work in the cube?
Yes, most will work.
> 3. Finally, I just wanted to know how difficult it is to replace the
> current drive in the cube.
Not difficult at all. The mounting holes on older cubes will work
with a half-height drive. Although you can just place a second drive
on top of the first half-height without mounting it...
Ken
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 24 Apr 1995 04:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3nf8kg$omj@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
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news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
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belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
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NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
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primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
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newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
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Related Newsgroups
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news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
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and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
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If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting info about black hardware
Date: 24 Apr 1995 04:49:20 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3nfakg$o12@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <3nc3um$2rn@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
In article <3nc3um$2rn@hpscit.sc.hp.com> klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) writes:
> In article <D7Du6J.IL8@infoserv.com>, <kent@infoserv.com> wrote:
> [about ND and NEXTIME]
> >I don't have throughput numbers but it definitely
> >works.
>
> I got contradicting email from Sam Goldberger. He says that the ND
> can't sync audio with the video. I think this deficiency is
> unacceptable and I am therefore inclined to say that NEXTIME does
> not work on an ND. And Sam has tried it with 33-, 40-, and 50-Mhz
> cubes.
It would be nice to see anything from any other ND owners on video, NeXTTime,
etc. performance wise. To this end I will post what little I know on this matter.
My current config is a 25Mhz 040 ND with 40M on motherboard 20M on ND. At one
point I had 64/20, but 40/20 is what I'm at now. I also had a 64/32 33Mhz ND
in my hands at one time (and my friend now has that system) but never had the
time to really test it out.
When I use Movie.app (2.51 I think) with a 24 frame animation (640x480x24bit)
and let the app run in loop mode until the pager swaps out enough space to hold
this 22M animation I finally get up to about 2.8 frames/sec. In fast/sloppy mode
I see the numbers bounce quite a bit (2.1 - 4.0 fps). In slow/steady mode I get
about 2.75 fps (bounces +/- .01fps).
I was stymied with the fact that it seemed that with more than 24frames the
pager kept touching the disk (perhaps I didn't wait long enough > 5min) slowing
the frame rate to < 1fps (with my 1.6G Seagate). Then I notched down the frames
so that they could fit in RAM on the ND. I think it was around 10-12 maybe 14.
Then cranked up the frame rate. It appeared I could get about 21.2fps with
fast/sloppy (+/- .1fps), and 17.4fps with slow/steady. It was here that in loop
mode you could see that between loops there was a bit of a pause. Whether this
contributed to slow reported speed it's hard to say. I'd have to dig into
the code to pin this down. But I don't see 30fps with 640x480 on ND. (period)
Then I actually installed and ran NeXTTime under NS3.2 (still need to try both
under NS3.3, and when I do I'll report results for my system). Suffice it to say
I felt like it sucked. Dropped an enormous amount of frames. And I havn't checked
carefully, but it appears there is no way to force it to play every frame, or to
report on the number or percent of dropped frames (and to give actual frame rate,
or average frame rate). This was even off my HD. I thought that every drive could
do 300K/sec easily (sustained), yet NeXTTime still drops frames quite a bit.
Then I ran a 100K/sec QT clip with sound. It's really difficult to say if the sound
and video are not syncronized. If I had a comment I would say it appears the sound
is lagging the video, but does seem to follow the video pretty well.
I would encourage NeXT to modify the app in the future to give some statistics.
As it is now I really can't tell at all how many frames/sec I'm getting. And on
my system NeXTTime appears to really be horrible. But as we all know NeXT really
is only putting minimal effort into any support for black hardware and for that
I am thankful.
But there are things that still suprise me. Serial port drivers are still
really nasty (black, white, green, blue, whatever), SCSI drivers for black
are still excreable, and bitblits to the ND are downright horrible. I find
it very difficult to believe that a bus with a theoretical peak bandwidth of
120MB/sec we get less than 3MB/sec in reality!. I'm really beginning to wonder
whether the OO paradigm the OS is built around (or the messaging system etc.) is
really downright CPU greedy, or if the fact that NeXT itself can't seem to find
any focus (along with income) is beginning to show in it's products. And yet
NeXT never seems to comment on this at all. On the bright side though the
ND is probably one of (if not THE) fastest Screen Hardware Postscript Renderer
around (And it's a shame that Adobe abandoned NeXTStep with Adobe Illustrator..
But hey how many ND's are there?!)
I often wonder why NeXT won't release any parts of the source to the commuity
at large (particularly drivers for black hardware and ND kernal.. Not Dps, or Qrman)
so that those of us out here who have the time, inclination, expertise might work
on fixing or upgrading them (at our own risk of course).
Well I'll save my other comments, suggestions, and criticism for another time
and another place..
Sincerely,
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
PS. BTW Mr. Sam Goldberger.. Why have we not really seen an announcement in
c.s.n.announce about the release of your 50Mhz 040 accellerator? Or did
I miss a c.s.n.announce (yes I am aware of ftp stuff pyro.* thankyou).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Bringing up PPP automagically; with REDIALING. HELP!
Message-ID: <schwettD7J578.1Do@netcom.com>
Summary: This is a pain.
Keywords: ppp redial
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:06:44 GMT
Sender: schwett@netcom19.netcom.com
Hi all...
I am trying to write a script to bring up a ppp connection on my NeXTStep
machine (Pentium, etc..) via UC Berkeley's Annexen.
I was doing it manually (with tip), but that got a little old, so I used the
following pppd command:
pppd defaultroute connect 'chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ""
ATZ "OK" ATDT6439600 "==>" ppp "sername:" differencengine "assword:"
password' /dev/cufb 38400
Which works fine, I assume
The problem is that the annexen are almost always busy, and fast redialing
is required to get through in a reasonable amount of time.
chat itself does not seem to have the capability to deal with this, so I
tried to write a csh script that would, using some while loops and temp
variables, keep running pppd until it connected.
However, all I succeeded in doing was making a BIG mess. I got redialing,
yes, but at the expense of a few thousand processes.
I DO NOT want to use sleep commands; this is counter to the whole point of
speedy redialing.
If pppd didn't fork itself (?) into the background, then this would be a
very simple task. However, it does (or something like that) so I cannot
simply make a loop that invokes pppd as step 1, checks for a connection as
step 2, and then either quits or repeats.
What can I do? I realize there must be a thousand ways to do this... I'm
looking for a fast, simple one!
Thanks a million,
Mark Schwettmann
--
schwett@netcom.com --- mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
"
a smile cartooned tooth for tooth, you said irony was the shackles of youth
"
From: David Grindrod <grindrod>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: BIOS setup for Intel NeXTSTEP on ISDE/SCSI disks
Date: 24 Apr 1995 08:46:23 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3nfogv$9ij@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would like to set up my home PC to boot NeXTSTEP off a SCSI disk and
DOS/Windows/OS2 of a ISDE disk. Is it possible to do this and what software do
I need to install inorder to do this. Is there no alternative to creating a 7MB
partition on the ISDE disk? This is very inconvenient as it means remaking the
DOS disk. I did read something about OS2 having a boot manager that was quite
good.
Which is the best boot manager for NeXTSTEP/Windows on seperate disks?
Dave
---------------------------------------------------------------
David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg.
Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: mstein@uoguelph.ca (Matthew Stein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OmniWeb
Date: 24 Apr 1995 10:35:08 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <3nfuss$p7t@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>
When using OmniWeb, all of my images come in alright, but they come in
looking like an unreadable image. This is even viewing www.next.com.
I'd figure their reader would read their site...
I have the GIF viewer on my system, but figure I must have something set
incorrectly. Can someone email me a fix/way to fix?
Thanks...
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: BIOS setup for Intel NeXTSTEP on ISDE/SCSI disks
Date: 24 Apr 1995 11:30:11 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ng243$6jo@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3nfogv$9ij@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
David Grindrod <grindrod> wrote:
>I would like to set up my home PC to boot NeXTSTEP off a SCSI disk
and
>DOS/Windows/OS2 of a ISDE disk. Is it possible to do this and what
software do
>I need to install inorder to do this. Is there no alternative to
creating a 7MB
>partition on the ISDE disk? This is very inconvenient as it means
remaking the
>DOS disk. I did read something about OS2 having a boot manager that
was quite
>good.
>Which is the best boot manager for NeXTSTEP/Windows on seperate
disks?
>Dave
Its not an elegant solution, but you could make a boot floppy.
Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill
far@earthlink.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
Agoura Hills, CA # to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
(NeXTmail prefered) # --Nicolo, Machiavelli
(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:37:30 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3nb4pt$4mj@portal.gmu.edu>
William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
: I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
: the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 15:39:12 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nggn0$nj@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto
Hainzl) writes:
> William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
> : I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
> : I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
> : the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
> I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial port.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Voice: 919-968-7858
Fax: 919-968-7856
Email: yrrid@world.std.com
It can support much higher speeds than the NeXT serial ports.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: prail@tip.ameslab.gov (Joel Prail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Erratic mouse with 3.3 on Intel GX workstation
Date: 24 Apr 1995 16:17:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3ngiuo$sgg@news.iastate.edu>
References: <RDL.95Apr19223643@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.95Apr19223643@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla) writes:
> Try the new PS/2 mouse driver available on NeXTanswers.
>
> Robert La Ferla
> HTI
The new PS/2 driver made things worse here! Most users have plugged their
mice into the serial port. It is more bearable. But this whole thing
should work!!!
-Joel Prail
From: "A Homepagemaker"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <D7JnnG.n12@dmapub.dma.org>
Control: cancel <D7JnnG.n12@dmapub.dma.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:02:40 GMT
Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc.
Sender: news@dmapub.dma.org (C-News file owner)
Message-ID: <cancel.D7JnnG.n12@dmapub.dma.org>
Cancelling spam. See explanation in news.admin.net-abuse.misc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Message-ID: <D7JsEv.2Ft@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3nfuss$p7t@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:28:06 GMT
In article <3nfuss$p7t@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>,
Matthew Stein <mstein@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>When using OmniWeb, all of my images come in alright, but they come in
>looking like an unreadable image. This is even viewing www.next.com.
>I'd figure their reader would read their site...
>
>I have the GIF viewer on my system, but figure I must have something set
>incorrectly. Can someone email me a fix/way to fix?
>
Do you have OmniImageFilter installer?
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gmac63@aol.com (GMAC63)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT as a server...
Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:43:53 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3ngo0p$j35@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I am in the market for a file server and was wondering if anyone has had
experience with NeXT as a server. I am looking at a lot of machines
(mostly Sun) as a server for the graphics industry.
Before you people get upset I am still looking for the FAQ for this
newsgroup, but I havent the time to lurk. Anyone who will spend some
e-mail time with me please respond to BelkInk@aol.com
Thanks!!!
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT sighting?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 18:19:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3ngq2n$40t@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Is that a black slab on the Dr Pepper(tm) commercial where the
woman who's out of change gets a free DP from the vending machine?
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Any serious project management apps?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 18:37:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ngr5c$8m7@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <1995Apr22.103951.5375@precipice.fdn.fr>
Keywords: taskmaster, diagram, ms project
In article <1995Apr22.103951.5375@precipice.fdn.fr> precipi!neekibo (Hugues
RICHARD) writes:
> In article <3n65va$ldj@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike
> Zemina) writes:
> > I'm needing to find a SERIOUS project management application for the NeXT.
> > Does anyone know of any?
>
> TaskMaster from LightHouse Design. (info@lighthouse.com)
> Haven't tried it but I think it is good.
I *have* tried it and it *is* good. I'll never use MS Project again. You'll want to
have Diagram!2 as well, as you can use Diagram to look at a project's PERT chart.
Best,
Pete
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From: mstein@uoguelph.ca (Matthew Stein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 24 Apr 1995 20:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <3nh3c9$a5s@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>
References: <3nfuss$p7t@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> <D7JsEv.2Ft@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Do you have OmniImageFilter installer?
Yup.
From: rhs@Corp.Sun.COM (Randall Stille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for X And Web Browser For 040 cube
Date: 24 Apr 1995 21:28:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nh562$48e@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Looking for a public version of X and a Web browser for
a 040 cube running v2.1. I've tried XNeXT, but I have
a NeXTDimension card and XNeXT is not supported on this
device.
From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: sendmail is acting strangely
Date: 24 Apr 1995 23:15:31 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3nhbej$acn@pith.uoregon.edu>
So, I posted a couple of messages, got a couple of replies; so far, nothing
works.
I have NSFIP 3.3, and I connect via ppp to the university. I have modified
sendmail.cf several different ways; my current configuration says:
...
S1
R$*<ser%discordia@$+>$* $1<ser@cs.uoregon.edu>$3
...
but sendmail insists on setting my from line to
From: Sean Russell <ser%discordia@cisco-ts5-line25.uoregon.edu>
(I'm mailing from an XTerm right now, so the return address is correct).
Can *any* guru tell me what I could be doing wrong? Is sendmail bypassing
sendmail.cf? Is there a way to tell if it is or not? For some reason, I
can't get sendmail to operate in test mode.
Thank you.
--
# Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
# ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and ask:
# www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
# Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs exit code
Date: 24 Apr 1995 07:12:24 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nfj0o$ds@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <D7FMqr.By@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <D7FMqr.By@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen
Sell) writes:
[munch quotebacks]
}~ If system load is high, sometimes the control part of a
}~ key-combination seems to get lost.
}~ This is true for all apps, not just emacs.
}~ (Try shift-clicking files in a file-viewer under
}~ heavy load. Chances are already selected files get
}~ deselected)
Unfortunately, it seems that CURRENT shift state is queried when
a key event is fetched from DPS, at least sometimes rather than
at the time of the event. I don't understand how this bug arose
in NEXTSTEP, but it's been around for some time... at least since
3.1
Bruce
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for X And Web Browser For 040 cube
Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:15:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3nhevg$50a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3nh562$48e@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
rhs@Corp.Sun.COM (Randall Stille) writes:
>Looking for a public version of X and a Web browser for
>a 040 cube running v2.1. I've tried XNeXT, but I have
>a NeXTDimension card and XNeXT is not supported on this
>device.
If you upgrade to 3.x, you can use the excellent NEXTSTEP-based
OmniWeb web browser.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:45:10 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <3nhk76$j7c@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3nb4pt$4mj@portal.gmu.edu> <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Otto Hainzl (e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: : I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
: : I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
: : the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
: I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
Luckily nobody told that to my machine. :-)
C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for NeXTSTEP
Copyright (C) 1985, 1994,
Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York.
Type ? or HELP for help.
C-Kermit>dial xxxxxxx
Number: xxxxxxx
Device: /dev/cufa, modem-dialer: hayes, speed: 57600
Dial timeout: 42 seconds
To cancel: type your interrupt character (normally Ctrl-C).
.....
Seriously, this may depend on a hardware and a version of OS.
Mine is a black NeXTstation with 3.2. Obviously enough a software
which attempts such speed has to be compiled to recognize it.
--mj
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problems with PNI
Date: 25 Apr 1995 05:26:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Several weeks ago, I had posted a message explainging a problem I was having
with the newest version of pni on NS 3.3. The software connects fine the first
time when starting NEXTSTEP, but after closing the connection, any further
attempts to connect causes pni to report errors and die. It works fine again
after rebooting.
I have had numerous people write to me saying that they are having the exact
same problem asking for the solution if I get it. I did have one person
suggest a fix:
ifconfig pni0 down
It's a good idea, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. If _ANYBODY_ has gotten
pni to work reliably with NS 3.3 on an intel system when connected to a remote
SLIP server, please contact me.
I have made an attempt to contact Louie Makamos about this problem without
any reply.
If anybody has a solution, please contact me. My SLIP connection is
probably the single most important reason for me to run NEXTSTEP.
Varun
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 486 questions
Date: 23 Apr 1995 13:52:22 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ndii6$3j@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <798602264.61snx@kkchan.pc.my>
Chan Kok Kiat (chan@kkchan.pc.my) wrote:
: 1) Is there a slip support for NS 3.2 ? I tried to look everywhere in the
: hard disk for slip but all I can find something to do with fax ???
: I am thinking of using the NS for uucp and slip to access Internet via
: a 14.4k modem.
There is, for example, Transsys PNI. Available at
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (the only ftp-Server I use - very good
for NeXT). Thera are also PPP-Packages.
: 2) When I install the NS, my video card is a Cirrus logic, the setup does not
: include a video driver for Cirrus, so I choose VGA. However there is no
: colour, only monochrome although the RAM is 32M. Must I have the video
: card support by NS ?
The VGA-Driver shipped with NS 3.2 has only grayscale with 640x480. Maybe
there is a driver for yout card anywhere, maybe not...
: 3) I am planning to do some development on my own pc (486 DX2 8M ram
: and ide hard disk), how much disk space is require ? In the documentation
: it stated that 8M, 16M and 32M but just to find out, is 8M enough ?
In my opinion, for Development (and the OS), 300 MB free disk space is the
minimum, more is strongly recommended. 8 MB RAM is *definite* too less
(I wonder if NS would start), with 16 MB it would work, but very slow. 24 MB
and more is a good solution.
: 4) Does NS 3.2 486 reads Macintosh floppy ? I insert a Macintosh floppy but
: the NS does not recognize the floppy disk.
NS reads Mac floppies. Simply hold down the Shift-Key and double-click the
NeXT-Icon in the dock or choose the Disk-Menu in the WS-Menu.
: Thanks in advance.
: --
: [ Chan Kok Kiat (K. K. Chan) -- chan@kkchan.pc.my ]
: [ Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. ]
greetings,
Rainer
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT HARDWARE QUESTIONS
Date: 25 Apr 1995 06:27:49 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.,
Message-ID: <3ni4p5$2kc@sparkle.soltec.com>
References: <3mktn9$45g@samar.usc.edu> <3mp0rm$q22@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
destewar@samar.usc.edu wrote:
> Color
An ND (NeXT Dimension) would get you true color, but some apps don't
work with it and you can get Intel hardware to do what the ND does
(probably cheaper than you can get an ND for these days).
> large monitor [full page]
The Elsa video cards on Windows NT allow you to have multiple cards
per machine and as many monitors, I would look at the NeXT hardware
lists and see if they can work that way for NS also. The ND allows
this too (one color monitor with each ND card added), but getting more
than two ND cards into a cube is not easy. Also, the Intel hardware
would allow you to boot into another OS like Windows NT or 95 (if you
want to run OpenStep stuff on these platforms, for instance).
> DTP [& Word Processing]
There's FrameMaker, but it's old, expensive and not very well
supported. There is a demo on ftp.lighthouse.com. Pages recently
posted about their development future for NS, so you can read that for
yourself.
In comparison, PasteUp is better at making some elements of layout
easier, but not for long-and-regular DTP. It really depends on what
kind of documents you'll edit. This is another reason the Intel PC
hardware is worth looking at now--it can do a lot for NS users and
still leave the door open to other operating systems that offer apps
not available on NS. On the other hand, Quark is really for the Mac.
I'd say DTP on NS isn't as good as what is available for other
systems. I'm hoping this will change.
> Word Processing
The best NS has to offer for general-purpose word processing is
OpenWrite from Xanthus. The other choices in this arena just don't
offer the flexibility or capability of OpenWrite. The beta and
supporting apps are ftp'able in demo form from sics.se in
/pub/next/xanthus. Well worth checking out, at the least.
> Book/large document production
For NS software, I'd suggest Frame here, but there's the support and
cost issue to contend with again. If you're in a place dealing with
FrameMaker 4 (or soon, 5) files, you'll probably not find version 3.2
so appealing at the asking price. Then again, large documents aren't
easily or gracefully handled on many NS apps, so your choice is being
made for you if you want NS. Looking at the feature list for what's
coming in OpenWrite 2.0 (they're releasing 1.1 in May), "support for
multi-file books" is on the list (I don't know precisely what this
support will be).
> Clip Art
EPS clip art files can be found in a lot of places, both for free and
for pay. Handling some PS code is the hallmark of NS (multiple master
fonts aren't supported, but PS level 2 is, for example).
> Scanning artwork
There are scanner packages (and OCR packages too) for NS. Check the
hardware FAQ for pointers to third party vendors. You might be able
to get a used one cheaply.
> slavic font capability--hopfully port my Mac/PC/Windoze
> fonts
There's already been a suggestion for an NS font converter.
Unfortunately, there's no font editor for NS. Fontographer, a popular
font editing app, runs on the Mac and Windows (I think on Windows NT),
but not NS.
> MIDI-- not really important, but would be nice
Like another thread in this group summarized, I doubt you'll find much
beyond the Music Kit for NS; and the MK isn't for non-programmers.
> What is the optimal hardware, software, and peripheral setup
> I should build and how much should it cost.
Right now, I'd suggest basing your decision around an Intel Pentium
machine because if there's some drastic OS change you want to make,
you'll find it difficult to make that change with NeXT hardware. The
ND is the only other real option for multi-monitor support (which you
might use to get a full-page display at high magnification). The ND is
okay, but it's not the price/performance leader for NS it used to be.
The ND also doesn't run some apps (such as X clients and Doom 2, if
that matters to you).
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> replied:
>I would suggest looking for a Color NeXTstation Turbo (33 MHz '040).
Sounds like a good inexpensive suggestion to me. I'd worry about NeXT
hardware not being fast enough or supported long enough to make for a
good long-term NS system (for the next 4-5 years, for example). It's
a tough call though, the cost is alluring. With the Daydream add-on
you can run System 7 instead of NS.
>It'll have a 2.88 MB floppy drive built-in. You should get one w/ 400+ MB
>hard drive. They come with either a 17-in or 21-in monitor, and I've
>heard that the Sony 17-in is better (although I don't know exactly why).
Personally, I think the 2.88MB drive is a frilly feature. I don't
know anyone that uses 2.88MB (aka "ED" for extended density) diskettes
and if you're on the Internet, you might not use diskettes that much
anyhow. Since 2.88MB drives aren't standard on PCs, software vendors
won't ship you software on ED disks. Also, many vendors allow you to
download the demo of their app, pay for the license number, receive
the license number and type it into the demo app making your copy of
the app fully functional.
I think the FIMI monitor was flaking out after prolonged use, and I
think it was a cut from a pretty small sphere (not what people call a
'flatscreen' today, and not a Trinitron monitor) so it was distorting
the pixels in the corners, but I'm not 100% certain. Just so you
know, Megapixel monitors are not considered 'flatscreen' (cut from a
large sphere) and they certainly aren't Trinitrons.
>For word processing, WriteNow is perfectly adequate. (Don't get WordPerfect!)
WriteNow and WordPerfect are both big jokes on NS. WriteNow is the
bigger laugh though--it's not going to run on anything but NeXT
hardware and it's incapable of handling many elements found in
competing word processors. Even the less capable NS word processors
do more than WriteNow ever did.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: RenderMan/animation recommendations
Message-ID: <D7L0oL.Fq@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <1995Apr19.075103.1744@ares.fdn.fr>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:24:20 GMT
In article <1995Apr19.075103.1744@ares.fdn.fr>
gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry) writes:
> You can Use the 3D Kit....BUT.... Your are not sure that the 3D kit will
be
> supported in the future by NeXT ... ( it seems it will not supported on
> Openstep)
>
Well the 3DKit is not PART of Openstep..but I can't see any reason why
NeXTSTEP should not continue to bundle RenderMan + 3DKit. After all those
kits are the only reasons to buy NeXTSTEP once all the Openstep plattforms
are out. If NeXTSTEP would only contain the Openstep kits (perhaps plus
EOF) it might not bee too atraktiv for a lot of people anymore.
NeXT know that they have to ship more then just Openstep to compete agains
Sun.
Aloha
Tomi
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Yue-Herng Lin" <yhlin@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: SMP on Intel??
Message-ID: <1995Apr25.034033.7464@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Distribution: us
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 03:40:30 -0500
Hi all,
Sorry if this is the question asked before. Does NS 3.3 support SMP
on Intel platform?? To be more precise, I'm thinking about getting
an ASUS SMP board. Can NS run on that board??
Thanks,
YH
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: using NeXTSTEP as a firewall??
Date: 25 Apr 1995 10:12:08 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3nihto$k03@metro.atlanta.com>
With all of the connections to the internet being added everyday, a lot of
companies are putting firewalls in place to protect their corporate
network. I realize that it might be considered a waste of a good
gui-based system for this [and that there are more specialized systems out
there to perform this task], but has anyone considered using a
NeXTSTEP-based system for a firewall? If you considered this and are
using it, what changes did you have to make? If you considered this and
used something else, I would be interested in knowing why.
The reason I am interested is that we have some extra cubes laying around
and someone suggested we use them as a firewall and someone else said that
was a bad idea for various reasons. I was just curious to see if anyone
in netland actually tried this.
thanks
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pdepuydt@uia.ac.be (Peter.Depuydt)
Subject: Audio-edge driver ??
Message-ID: <1995Apr25.114153.11202@reks.uia.ac.be>
Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System)
Organization: U.I.A.
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:41:53 GMT
Hi,
I have an adaptec audio-edge card, NeXT will release a driver for it, but as usual,
it has been post-poned to the NeXT quarter :((
Does any one know, how and what the situation is about this driver ??
After all, a next-station without sound is ...it just is missing something
Thanks in advance.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Peter DEPUYDT E-mail : pdepuydt@uia.ua.ac.be
Student (Computer Science) at University of Antwerp (UIA)
Belgium / Europe
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From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: recording next sessions
Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:24:17 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3nj0mh$f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hallo,
centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay) sessions on
a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get it.
Thanks in advance.
Robert
--
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Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation, Universitaetskliniken Mainz
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: recording next sessions
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:30:02 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3nj0mh$f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Robert Mueller (mueller@n1) wrote:
: centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay) sessions on
: a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
: could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get it.
I thin it was Show and Tell under NS 2.0 which I deleted already.
Otto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: as@asci.fdn.fr (Antoine Schmitt)
Subject: ISDN, Europe, Intel, Internet ?
Message-ID: <1995Apr25.201204.1496@asci.fdn.fr>
Sender: as@asci.fdn.fr
Organization: Antoine Schmitt - Paris, France.
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:12:04 GMT
I'm looking for an European ISDN solution to connect to Internet. What are
the solutions, client and server side, the client being Intel based, the
server being anything, directly connected to the Net ? We'd like to use
ftp, WWW,... Something like PPP but over ISDN would be perfect.
What are the solutions and their price ?
Thanks
Antoine
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From: root@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mouse Speedup (Black Cube)
Date: 25 Apr 1995 20:59:41 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Message-ID: <3njnrt$9j6@grok2.orem.novell.com>
How do I speed up the danged mouse? It is already full speed
and it is still to slow.
From: patel@fairway.ecn.purdue.edu (Umesh H Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Framemaker and 3.1
Date: 25 Apr 1995 21:23:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Message-ID: <3njp8e$l4r@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Has anybody had a problem using Framemaker 2.0 with
NS3.0 or 3.1? I installed a new hard drive and
Framemaker no longer starts up for me.
From the console, I get the following message:
Apr 25 16:17:24 tumor WindowServer[156]:
Can't open `/tmp/debug': context is write-prohibited.
maker: finished postscript download
maker: Starting FrameMaker 2.0b.
Copyright (c) 1986-1989 Frame Technology Corp.
maker: Internal error 8.
Has anybody else experienced the same problem?
Is there a fix to the problem?
Umesh Patel
patel@ecn.purdue.edu
From: jtodd@ss2.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: recording next sessions
Date: 25 Apr 1995 22:55:32 GMT
Organization: Digital Express
Message-ID: <3njul4$9e1@news3.digex.net>
References: <3nj0mh$f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Otto Hainzl (e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: Robert Mueller (mueller@n1) wrote:
: : centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay) sessions on
: : a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
: : could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get it.
: I thin it was Show and Tell under NS 2.0 which I deleted already.
: Otto
I think that "Journaler.app" also does this by recording mouse sessions
and replaying them back to the screen.
--
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Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x5167 = sales info
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: recording next sessions
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:05:26 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr25.220526.11292@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto
Hainzl) writes:
> Robert Mueller (mueller@n1) wrote:
> : centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay)
sessions on
> : a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
> : could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get
it.
> I thin it was Show and Tell under NS 2.0 which I deleted already.
Alternatively it was WatchMe, which is a great tool for playing demos and
lessons.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: piou@clark.net (Edward Piou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Installing Cnews
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:15:29 -0400
Organization: Edarchy First!
Message-ID: <3njoph$10p@clark.net>
References: <3n6tnk$ql7@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
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Try looking at NeGeN's CNews installer. You can get it at
<URL:ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next/NeGeN-1.1_CNews.NI.b.tar.gz>. Works
like a charm (at least on NS 3.0 on a NextStation).
ep
In article <3n6tnk$ql7@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>,
<Eren Kotan on root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk> wrote:
>The trouble is, I cannot get it to work, even after following the
>instructions, so I would appreciate it if someone who has managed to
>install cnews successfully before could email me and give me a hand.
From: krispy@bga.com (Kris Schludermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: RFI:Using Next inkjet on a Mac or PC
Date: 25 Apr 1995 18:41:48 -0500
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <3nk1bs$nku@ghostwheel.bga.com>
have a Next SCSI Inkjet printer i'd like to use on either my Mac or PC.
any info would be appreciated.
thanxs
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:08:28 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3nk6ec$lqh@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
converting the "text" to Mac style carriage return. Photoshop
complains it cannot parse the postscript file. Any help or
suggestions appreciated!
TIA
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: novoluc@haven.ios.com (Luc Novovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 2842 driver
Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:54:12 GMT
Organization: Internet Online Services
Message-ID: <3nho8l$o1@ankh.iia.org>
I need the Adaptec 2842 driver to install NS 3.2 on an Intel machine.
If you have it and could put it on a NeXT formatted floppy in a directory
usr/Devices I would be happy to pay for the cost (and it will be good for
your Karma...) (Adaptec2740Driver, supporting the 274x and 28x series of
VL SCSI adapters).
Please e-mail.
Thanks.
From: rswillia@csc.com (Robert S. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: BIOS setup for Intel NeXTSTEP on ISDE/SCSI disks
Date: 25 Apr 1995 08:20:43 -0400
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation
Message-ID: <3niper$dc8@explorer.csc.com>
References: <3nfogv$9ij@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
David Grindrod <grindrod> writes:
>I would like to set up my home PC to boot NeXTSTEP off a SCSI disk and
>DOS/Windows/OS2 of a ISDE disk. Is it possible to do this and what software do
>I need to install inorder to do this. Is there no alternative to creating a 7MB
>partition on the ISDE disk? This is very inconvenient as it means remaking the
>DOS disk. I did read something about OS2 having a boot manager that was quite
>good.
>Which is the best boot manager for NeXTSTEP/Windows on seperate disks?
>Dave
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg.
>Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
>HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
I use the BIOS setup to set my IDE drives to "Not installed." The
system will then boot from the SCSI drive. Of course, the IDE drives
are not then visible from NeXTSTEP.
Bob Williams
From: "M.T. Carrasco Benitez" <m.carrasco-benitez@mhsg.cec.be>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Web soft
Date: 26 Apr 1995 07:17:14 GMT
Message-ID: <3nks1q$d4t@caladan.restena.lu>
1) What Web software (client & sever) is available for the Cube ?
2) Where and how can I get it ?
Regards
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Message-ID: <D7LrKA.F5@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:04:57 GMT
In article <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl) writes:
> William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
> : I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
> : I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
> : the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
> I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
Take a look at bsd/sys/ttydev.h
While not all kind of software does support it, I ran Tailor uucp with speed configured to 57600
for some time. (sorry, I cannot remember if the modem's connect string verified the 57600 as serial
speed. It definitely did not matter as my modem is to slow to take advantage of it - this will be
different for true 28.8 connections)
Juergen
---
Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49 511 4406-17
== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PNI
Date: 26 Apr 1995 10:50:20 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3nl8hc$rbv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>Several weeks ago, I had posted a message explainging a problem I was having
>with the newest version of pni on NS 3.3. The software connects fine the first
>time when starting NEXTSTEP, but after closing the connection, any further
>attempts to connect causes pni to report errors and die. It works fine again
>after rebooting.
>
>I have had numerous people write to me saying that they are having the exact
>same problem asking for the solution if I get it. I did have one person
>suggest a fix:
>
> ifconfig pni0 down
>
>It's a good idea, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. If _ANYBODY_ has gotten
>pni to work reliably with NS 3.3 on an intel system when connected to a remote
>SLIP server, please contact me.
As a followup to my original post, I have a solution! (Thanks to Brent Swekla)
The secret is to downgrade to PNI 1.11, and then 'ifconfig pni0 down' works
fine. You can put this into a script (also supplied by Brent Swekla):
slipdown:
#!/bin/sh
/etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0
sleep 5
/etc/ifconfig pni0 down
As root, make this script run SUID root by typing:
chmod 6755 slipdown
Varun
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISDN, Europe, Intel, Internet ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Apr 1995 12:31:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3nlefl$8m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1995Apr25.201204.1496@asci.fdn.fr>
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Antoine Schmitt (as@asci.fdn.fr) wrote:
: I'm looking for an European ISDN solution to connect to Internet. What are
: the solutions, client and server side, the client being Intel based, the
: server being anything, directly connected to the Net ? We'd like to use
: ftp, WWW,... Something like PPP but over ISDN would be perfect.
I would suggest using a 286 PC, plug in an Ethernet-card and an ISDN-board,
install CAPI, ISPA, Packetdriver and PCroute or NOS, configure and your
ISDN-Router is ready. This solution is cheap (~ DM 500, depending on how
cheap you get the 286) and has proven stable.
The CAPI is part of the software belonging to the ISDN-board (a passive
ISDN-board is enough), ISPA is shareware (DM 30 or 50 private,
edu/commercial) implements ethernet over ISDN bridging supporting
PPP, SLIP, HDLC etc., PCroute and NOS/KA9Q are routers an are in the
public domain.
Cheers,
Axel
--
Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|//
Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | /
Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 23 281 (uni) \~/
From: bill@otherwise.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: recording next sessions
Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:09:33 GMT
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3nlk6t$o23@giga.bga.com>
References: <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at> <1995Apr25.220526.11292@seer.demon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
In article <1995Apr25.220526.11292@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul_Lynch@plsys.com
says...
>
>In article <3njbiq$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at
(Otto
>Hainzl) writes:
>> Robert Mueller (mueller@n1) wrote:
>> : centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay)
>sessions on
>> : a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
>> : could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can
get
>it.
>> I thin it was Show and Tell under NS 2.0 which I deleted already.
>
>Alternatively it was WatchMe, which is a great tool for playing demos and
>lessons.
>
>Paul
>--
>Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
>Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
>Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Actually it was both ShowAndTell and WatchMe. Both applications allow you
to record screen activity along with sound. ShowAndTell used the
Journaler which records events to be played back to the applications.
WatchMe uses a different technology in that it records the bits on the
screen for later playback. WatchMe does not require the original
recorded applications to be present during playback.
My company produces and sells WatchMe. Please contact me for additional
information.
--
Bill Tschumy
Otherwise
bill@otherwise.com
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted)
From: ergo@localhost (Olaf Foellinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PNI
Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:21:12 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany
Message-ID: <3nlru6$o8n@delos.s.bawue.de>
References: <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <3nl8hc$rbv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) wrote:
>In article <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>>Several weeks ago, I had posted a message explainging a problem I
was having
>>with the newest version of pni on NS 3.3. The software connects
fine the first
>>time when starting NEXTSTEP, but after closing the connection, any
further
>>attempts to connect causes pni to report errors and die. It works
fine again
>>after rebooting.
>>
>>I have had numerous people write to me saying that they are having
the exact
>>same problem asking for the solution if I get it. I did have one
person
>>suggest a fix:
>>
>> ifconfig pni0 down
>>
>>It's a good idea, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. If _ANYBODY_
has gotten
>>pni to work reliably with NS 3.3 on an intel system when connected
to a remote
>>SLIP server, please contact me.
>As a followup to my original post, I have a solution! (Thanks to
Brent Swekla)
>The secret is to downgrade to PNI 1.11, and then 'ifconfig pni0 down'
works
>fine. You can put this into a script (also supplied by Brent
Swekla):
>slipdown:
>#!/bin/sh
>/etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0
>sleep 5
>/etc/ifconfig pni0 down
>As root, make this script run SUID root by typing:
> chmod 6755 slipdown
>Varun
Another possibility is to add an ethernet-card to your pc (you may use
it or not) and to install the driver. Lokks like PNI is looking for
it.This solution works fine here though it is a little bit expensive.
Greetings Olaf
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Where to get NCR Driver
Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:18:02 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3nlv8a$s5q@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
I wanted to annouce the ftp & BBS sites and to also annouce that we
(Symbios Logic) DO support the Driver, however NeXT has yet to certify it
because NeXT will only ceritfy strctly 3.3 drivers. This driver supports both
3.2 & 3.3 and is presently being modified (by NeXT and Symbios Logic) to
be certified for 3.3.
The Symbios Logic Driver for the NCR 8100, 8150, 8250, & 8251S are now
available on our BBS and our ftp site. The number to our BBS is
719.573.3562. Our ftp site is ftp.symbios.com, log in as anonymous. They
Driver files are in the /pub/ncrchips/scsi/drivers/next3 directory.
The next3.zip file is a package for dos users that contains the files and
documents needed to create an installation disk from a DOS machine.
The sym53c8.cfg is equivilent to SYM53c8.config.compressed and is
compressed using NeXT. Obviously, this file is for NeXT system users.
The next.dd file is an Iimage of the installation disk that is formed by using
dd. To create the disk from an image, use the Unix dd command.
Rawrite3 is the freeware utility we use to create the image disk for DOS
users from the next.dd file.
The rest of the files are documentation.
Note: This is not a NeXT supported driver, it is supported by Symbios
Logic.
This Driver will NOT work with Benoulli Drives
Thomas Wells
Engineer
Symbios Logic
From: ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu (Ron Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Serial Speeds for Slab
Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:46:16 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nm0t8$11b@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Keywords: Serial getty kermit
I have a NeXT 040 slab, and I was wondering if the serial ports could
communicate at speeds faster than 38400, which seems to be the fastest
speed either kermit or getty knows about.
Ron Wood
ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sfoster@epsilon.com (Scott Foster)
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on black hardware
Message-ID: <sfoster-260495153606@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: usenet@epsilon.com
Organization: Epsilon Data Management
References: <3n3u4o$dil@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 20:36:06 GMT
In article <3n3u4o$dil@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>, Eren Kotan on
root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk wrote:
> I am using a NextCube 040 with a Hayes Accura 28800 modem, however, I
> cannot seem to use speeds higher than 38400 bps. Is this a limitation of
> the NeXT hardware? Any help is most welcome
>
> Eren Kotan, NeXTMail OK!
What about on the NeXT Color Workstation? What is the limitation?
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sfoster@epsilon.com (Scott Foster)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! A few questions about NeXT slab
Message-ID: <sfoster-260495154545@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: usenet@epsilon.com
Organization: Epsilon Data Management
References: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950421124940.20236D-100000@eddie>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 20:45:45 GMT
In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950421124940.20236D-100000@eddie>, Pustilnik Mark
<a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu> wrote:
> Hello. We have NeXT slab with 8MB of RAM and 040 25MHz proceccor. We
> intend to use it for Internet services. So we have a few questions:
>
> 1. What kind of memory chips do we have to get in order to upgrade it to
> 16MB or 32MB ?
>
> 2. Will any external SCSI hard-drive be compatible with our NeXT or do we
> have to get certain models ?
>
> 3. Where can we get binaries or sources for IRC (Internet Relay Chat
> program) and some WWW browser (both GUI and text-based like lynx) for
> NeXTSTEP.
> We currently have NeXTSTEP 2.1 and looking for anyone who would
> sell us 3.0 or 3.1 with developer's applications.
> Please respond as soon as possible.
> Please do not post to the news group, e-mail to a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu.
> Thanx in advance.
> Mark.
I would also be very interested in hearing the answers to these questions.
Could someone e-mail me a copy too? Thank you very much.
Scott
sfoster@epsilon.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!moby.itlabs.umn.edu!leex0497
From: leex0497@moby.itlabs.umn.edu (Lee)
Subject: Installation
Message-ID: <D7nMyL.HL8@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:28:35 GMT
Hi,
I have question how to install my nextstep. When I look over the
installation guide, it said u need to make your scsi hd id to 0. It is
fine that my scsi hd is scsi id 0. However, the manual also said i need
to set the cd-rom to scsi id 2,3,..., or 7. But my cd-rom is set to 1
now. So is it really matter to set it to 2,3,... or 7? By the way, how
can i set it to different scsi id #?
=) Lee
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: sendmail is acting strangely
Date: 26 Apr 1995 21:52:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Message-ID: <3nmfbg$bej@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <3nhbej$acn@pith.uoregon.edu>
In article <3nhbej$acn@pith.uoregon.edu> ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott
Russell) writes:
> Can *any* guru tell me what I could be doing wrong? Is sendmail bypassing
> sendmail.cf? Is there a way to tell if it is or not? For some reason, I
> can't get sendmail to operate in test mode.
Hi Sean,
Sendmail will look in NetInfo for a pointer to the preferred sendmail.cf file
to use. Only if none exists will it use /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf. This
allows system administrators to set up specific sendmail.cf files and have
them automatically used by all machines on their network.
Look for the sendmail.cf property of the /locations/sendmail directory:
% niutil -read . /locations/sendmail
It's inherited, so you may have to search your NetInfo hierarchy to find it.
To change it or remove it, use the -changeprop/-destroyprop options or run
NetInfoManager and change it from there.
> For some reason, I can't get sendmail to operate in test mode.
Could you tell me why that is? If you can get it working, you can verify
which sendmail.cf file it's using by setting debug flag 0 to level 2 or more
(-d0.2).
Hope this helps,
Lennart Lovstrand
NeXT Software Engineering
SunSoft OpenStep Technical Liaison
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Serial Speeds for Slab
Date: 27 Apr 1995 11:41:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nnvsq$ng3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3nm0t8$11b@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Ron Wood (ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu) wrote:
: I have a NeXT 040 slab, and I was wondering if the serial ports could
: communicate at speeds faster than 38400, which seems to be the fastest
: speed either kermit or getty knows about.
It is possible to set the speed at 57600, but you have to use
software which knows about it. The problem of 57600 putting a very
high load on the CPU remains, so you want be able to retain
this speed over a longer period of time.
Axel
--
Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|//
Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | /
Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 23 281 (uni) \~/
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Serial Speeds for Slab
Date: 27 Apr 1995 04:37:46 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nn72q$aue@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3nm0t8$11b@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Ron Wood writes
> I have a NeXT 040 slab, and I was wondering if the serial ports
> could communicate at speeds faster than 38400, which seems to be
> the fastest speed either kermit or getty knows about.
Nope. man tty or use Librarian to search NextAdmin for 38400.
--
Brent Swekla
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! A few questions about NeXT slab
Message-ID: <1995Apr27.091847.10560@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <sfoster-260495154545@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:18:47 GMT
In article <sfoster-260495154545@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com> sfoster@epsilon.com
(Scott Foster) writes:
> In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950421124940.20236D-100000@eddie>, Pustilnik
Mark
> <a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hello. We have NeXT slab with 8MB of RAM and 040 25MHz proceccor. We
> > intend to use it for Internet services. So we have a few questions:
> >
> > 1. What kind of memory chips do we have to get in order to upgrade it
to
> > 16MB or 32MB ?
> >
> > 2. Will any external SCSI hard-drive be compatible with our NeXT or do
we
> > have to get certain models ?
> >
> > 3. Where can we get binaries or sources for IRC (Internet Relay Chat
> > program) and some WWW browser (both GUI and text-based like lynx) for
> > NeXTSTEP.
> > We currently have NeXTSTEP 2.1 and looking for anyone who would
> > sell us 3.0 or 3.1 with developer's applications.
> > Please respond as soon as possible.
> > Please do not post to the news group, e-mail to
a488pust@cdf.toronto.edu.
> > Thanx in advance.
> > Mark.
>
>
>
> I would also be very interested in hearing the answers to these
questions.
> Could someone e-mail me a copy too? Thank you very much.
>
>
> Scott
>
> sfoster@epsilon.com
Us to
Thank you very much
Gery DIVRY
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
From: asoto@wsc.com ( Andre L. Soto )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PNI
Date: 26 Apr 1995 18:34:14 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3nm3n6$qjv@cerberus.wsc.com>
References: <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <3ni158$hlq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes:
> Several weeks ago, I had posted a message explainging a problem I was
having
> with the newest version of pni on NS 3.3. The software connects fine
the first
> time when starting NEXTSTEP, but after closing the connection, any
further
> attempts to connect causes pni to report errors and die. It works fine
again
> after rebooting.
>
> I have had numerous people write to me saying that they are having the
exact
> same problem asking for the solution if I get it. I did have one person
> suggest a fix:
>
> ifconfig pni0 down
>
> It's a good idea, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. If _ANYBODY_ has
gotten
> pni to work reliably with NS 3.3 on an intel system when connected to a
remote
> SLIP server, please contact me.
>
> I have made an attempt to contact Louie Makamos about this problem
without
> any reply.
>
> If anybody has a solution, please contact me. My SLIP connection is
> probably the single most important reason for me to run NEXTSTEP.
>
> Varun
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I tried running PNI on NS 3.3 and experienced the same problem. I
downloaded ppp-2.2 and within 2 hours I was up and running and dialing
into my work site, more than once might I add. I hear that future
releases of ppp2.x will include a dial on demand feature.
The best part about this package is that it is FREE, and it works. I
inserted the README below in case you are interested.
Good Luck,
Andre L. Soto
asoto@wsc.com
README:
-------
This site contains the latest versions of the PPP porting effort for
NeXT computers (NeXTSTEP OS version 3.2 or 3.3). The files located
here all have names that describe their version. The filenames will be
something like:
NeXT-ppp2.2-0.1.8.tar.gz.crypt
NeXT-ppp2.2-0.1.8-patch<n>.tar.gz.crpyt
meaning ppp version 2.2 NeXT release 0.1.8. The crypt extension means
that the files have been encrypted using the UNIX crypt command (email
me for the key). The number 0.1.8 will change as new versions are
released. If there are patch files, only the latest patch<n> file
needs to be installed over the NeXT distribution. The patch files
untar into a separate directory. That directory will contain
instructions on how to apply the patch. Typically, the latest two
versions are kept on the archive.
This work requires OS version 3.2 or greater. Earlier OS versions do
not support some of the required POSIX functionality (nor MAB file
support). It will run on the Motorola, Intel, HPPA, and Sparc ports.
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Flash:
NeXT-ppp2.2-0.1.9.tar.gz.crypt
now has support for Sparc systems. A Quad-FAT MAB installer
may be found in:
NeXT-ppp2.2-0.1.9-pkg.tar.gz
Many thanks to John Landwehr <John_Landwehr@NeXT.COM> for his help
in compiling the executables quad fat.
Sparc users please note:
The SUN serial driver in the pre-release is not very robust at high
speeds. This has been fixed for the final release. This could cause
problems with testing on pre-release Sparc (but low bps rates should be
OK...like 2400 to maybe 9600 with low system activity).
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Version 2.2 of PPP implements BSD packet compression. Further, it
provides for priority queueing of interactive traffic and it
implements VJ TCP Header Compression. Finally, it contains _many_ bug
fixes and enhancements over 2.1.2.
The MAB is a binary only distribution and is not encrypted. It is
present for people who do not have a developer version of NeXTSTEP.
Sources are also available but are encrypted until the official
release of PPP-2.2. This is to guarantee that users understand the
status of the work. If you are interested in getting the decrypt key
for sources, please send me email. This port will be officially
released when the general PPP-2.2 is released.
For more information on PPP in general, you might want to check out:
http://cs.uni-bonn.de/ppp/faq.html
-and-
ftp://morningstar.com/pub/papers/ppp-white-paper.ps.gz
-and-
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/pdial/faq.html
(This last is a list of internet providers)
Please let me know if you have any problems or comments.
- Steve
============================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | Encrypted mail preferred
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
PGP public key available via 'finger -l perkins@cps.msu.edu'
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From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Problems doing dump on ST32550N
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:59:25 GMT
I'm having problems doing a dump from a Seagate Barracuda ST32550N. I
have the drive connected up to a NeXT '040 Cube, and it is set to SCSI
ID 2. The DAT drive is set to SCSI ID 3. I have not have any problems
with the drive in use, but when I go to perform a level 0 dump with
the dump command provided with the operating system, it goes for a
while, and then this error is reported on the console:
reselect timeout - target 2
st: cmd = 0xa sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x6 Sense Code = 0x0
The DAT drive I'm trying to backup to is a WangDAT Model 2600. After
the failure the DAT drive spazzes and rewinds the whole tape. Is there
some sort of SCSI command conflict with the drive? I've never had a
problem doing a dump of any other SCSI hard drive (several of which
are also Seagate).
This is the info returned for the Barracuda:
Vendor Identification: 'SEAGATE '
Product Identification: 'ST32550N '
Product Revision Level: '0012'
Vendor Specific: '00027445'
Reserved: ''
Vendor-Specific Parameters: '\000Copyright (c) 1994 Seagate All rights
reserved'
And this is the info for the WangDAT:
Vendor Identification: 'WangDAT '
Product Identification: 'Model 2600 '
Product Revision Level: '01.6'
Vendor Specific: 'BFW05.20AFW01.60'
Reserved: ''
Vendor-Specific Parameters: ''
Is this a problem with the SCSI driver in NeXTStep 3.3? I was able to
do a dump from the Seagate to the optical drive, but I can't do it to
the DAT. What's the problem, and how do I fix it?
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From: gould@danno (D. Gould)
Subject: Next OS screenshot
Message-ID: <D7px38.8rH@info.bris.ac.uk>
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:54:44 GMT
Can some kind soul send me a screenshot (1024x768x256ish) of a typical Next
setup to gould@danno.cs.bris.ac.uk.?
Thanks, Dave.
From: michael@wolfgang (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
Date: 27 Apr 1995 22:24:04 GMT
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jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) wrote:
>Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
>Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
>converting the "text" to Mac style carriage return. Photoshop
>complains it cannot parse the postscript file. Any help or
>suggestions appreciated!
The latest edition of Adobe magazine points out that Photoshop can
only open Illustrator generated .eps files. So if you can first
convert your NeXT .eps to Adobe Illustrator .eps (Tailor will probably
help) then theoretically, you should be able to get it into Photoshop.
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer
The Clorox Company
michael@clxgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
michael@mmgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Now, wait a minute! (was: sendmail is acting strangely)
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:38:35 GMT
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In article <3nmfbg$bej@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes:
>
> [ stuff about sendmail and NetInfo deleted ]
>
The header from this message looks like:
>From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM>Subject: Re: sendmail is acting strangely
>Date: 26 Apr 1995 21:52:48 GMT
>Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
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I didn't realize NeXT is now part of Sun. Does this mean that I (a Sun
employee) can get employee price on NS 3.3 :-)?
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From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How do I AutoLaunch Apps?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 03:16:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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In the old days, I had a few apps stored in /LocalApps set in my
WM preferences to autolaunch. However, as time passed, my hard drive filled
up and I got a new one. I just moved some of my apps in /LocalApps to this
new disk drive and set up symbolic links on the old (boot) drive. However,
now when I start WM, the "Question mark" icon appears on the apps when WM
tries to autolaunch them. I guess it's because WM tries to launch them before
it mounts the new drive. So does anyone know how I can setup things such that
my apps will autolaunch, beyond (the non-option of) moving them back to the
old drive? Thanks....
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From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:19:03 +0100
Subject: b/w - MPD-Saver keyboard cable
Hi all you NeXTies out there,
someone talked about a cable on the net, which can (when there is
no action on the keyboard for quite some time) dim or turn off the
standard NeXT-17"-b/w- MegaPixelDisplays to save their lifes. And
then, the Monitor comes back to life when a keystroke is detected.
Well, this cable is a dream come true for b/w-NeXTs who serve the Net
So, where can I get this cable??? Anyone ?????
Thanx in advance
+ Greetings = | : - )
from Stefan
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From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 22:08:38 +0100
Subject: FIREPOWER INC.
Hi,
who knows more about
FIREPOWER SYSTEMS INC.
190 Independence Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94 025 ???????????
Its told that this company has inherited the hardware-knowledge
(SMP-PowerPC?) of NeXT Computer Inc.
Thanx + Greetings = | : - )
from Stefan
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How do I AutoLaunch Apps?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 21:35:07 +0100
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References: <3npmlg$s78@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Kurt D. Bollacker (kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu) wrote:
: In the old days, I had a few apps stored in /LocalApps set in my
: WM preferences to autolaunch. However, as time passed, my hard drive filled
: up and I got a new one. I just moved some of my apps in /LocalApps to this
: new disk drive and set up symbolic links on the old (boot) drive. However,
: now when I start WM, the "Question mark" icon appears on the apps when WM
: tries to autolaunch them. I guess it's because WM tries to launch them before
: it mounts the new drive. So does anyone know how I can setup things such that
: my apps will autolaunch, beyond (the non-option of) moving them back to the
: old drive? Thanks....
Just add your new hard drive to /etc/fstab.
Rainer
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From: alex@zivserv.franken.de (Alexander Much)
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
In-Reply-To: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at's message of 24 Apr 1995 13:37:30 GMT
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:29:38 GMT
In article <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl) writes:
William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
: I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
: the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
There's a driver for the serial port (MuX Driver) which can probably help.
You can find it at ftp.leo.org (pub/comp/platforms/next/...)
Alex
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From: p.j.kay@iti.salford.ac.uk (P J Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 16:15:17 GMT
Organization: OS/2 Development, ITI, University of Salford
Message-ID: <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk>
Subject says it all. I'm writing my dissertation concerning the effect of the
independent software vendor on the evolution of the interface and
cite NeXTStep as an example of an excellent interface/OS that
failed to gain market share because of lack of backwards compatibility.
This *is* true isn't it? The other reasons would be proprietary hardware and
high hardware requirements.
I know NeXT is basically an extremely enhanced X windows interface
stuck on a modified Mach Kernel - so will it run 'normal' X programs?
I know it has its own OpenStep API.
It has a software DOS emu now, but originally?
Out of interest, what do you need to run NeXTStep on a PC? At this
moment its a bit out of my reach (I only have a DX33 with 8MB RAM
running OS/2). I seem to remember 8 MB for mono, 16MB for 256
colours and 24MB for 24 bit? (plus a 4mb video card?).. I presume
(like OS/2) that most of the memory is taken up with the interface?
Its wonderful that the least usable interface is incorporated in the most used
GUI in the world :( (Yes, I have seen win 95, it sucks in comparison
to OS/2)
.....Peter Kay, OS/2 Programmer, www author & all round techie..........
. email: P.J.KAY@ITI.SALFORD.AC.UK .
................. Polymorphic Dragon -==(UDIC)==- ................
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 12:43:34 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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In <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk> p.j.kay@iti.salford.ac.uk (P J Kay) writes:
>Subject says it all. I'm writing my dissertation concerning the effect of the
>independent software vendor on the evolution of the interface and
>cite NeXTStep as an example of an excellent interface/OS that
>failed to gain market share because of lack of backwards compatibility.
>This *is* true isn't it? The other reasons would be proprietary hardware and
>high hardware requirements.
No, it's not true. There was nothing preceding NeXTStep (aside from normal,
non-GUI UNIX stuff) for which compatibility needed to be (or could have
been) maintained.
>I know NeXT is basically an extremely enhanced X windows interface
>stuck on a modified Mach Kernel - so will it run 'normal' X programs?
I'm afraid that what you "know" here is completely and utterly false.
NeXTStep's GUI interface is based solely on Display PostScript (tm Adobe),
which anyone here will tell you, presents a much, _much_ nicer way to deal
with a visual interface than X.
You're right about the modified Mach kernel, though.
I suggest that you do a little more research if you want to make a
balanced assessment of NeXT's (checkered) history in your dissertation.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: NS3.3/hppa and HP-UX fs?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:05:21 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
could someone please tell me if NS 3.3 for HP supports already
mounting of HP-UX file systems (on other disks)?
Thanks,
Thomas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: 28 Apr 95 19:30:33 GMT
Organization: South Bank University
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can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
GIF format.
please email direct to me if possible......
// don loke
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 23:10:35 GMT
In article <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk>,
P J Kay <p.j.kay@iti.salford.ac.uk> wrote:
>Subject says it all. I'm writing my dissertation concerning the effect of the
>independent software vendor on the evolution of the interface and
>cite NeXTStep as an example of an excellent interface/OS that
>failed to gain market share because of lack of backwards compatibility.
>This *is* true isn't it? The other reasons would be proprietary hardware and
>high hardware requirements.
It's not clear how you can be backward compatible with something you didn't
evolve from but I guess that that's a semantic issue. The real issues with
NeXT's initial failures, as I see them, were (in no particular order):
a) Aggressive targeting of a non-existent market (the higher
educational students' workstation that no student could afford)
b) Incompatibility with the mainstream
c) Aggressive re-targeting to newer and equally intractable
markets every six months or so
>I know NeXT is basically an extremely enhanced X windows interface
>stuck on a modified Mach Kernel - so will it run 'normal' X programs?
>I know it has its own OpenStep API.
Here you're really confused on the technical details. NEXTSTEP has nothing
to do with the X Windows interface. In fact about the only thing that the
NeXT GUI has in common with X is that they both have windows. It will not
run 'normal' X programs. There are X server packages available that allow
X apps to run either side by side with NEXTSTEP apps on the same screen or
on alternate virtual screens but this support is not native. As for the
OpenStep API, it is true that the evolving OpenStep spec is based on the
original NEXTSTEP but I'm not sure how kosher it is to say that NS as it
is currently available is OpenStep.
>It has a software DOS emu now, but originally?
Not originally and not out of the box. Insignia's SoftPC exists for
Black and White. Of course I don't really see the point on White since
you can install a separate DOS/Windows partition and have better
compatibility anyway. Software MS-DOS emulation running on even the
quicker black hardware was pretty sluggish though. It often felt to
me like roughly a 286/10 or so.
>Out of interest, what do you need to run NeXTStep on a PC? At this
>moment its a bit out of my reach (I only have a DX33 with 8MB RAM
>running OS/2). I seem to remember 8 MB for mono, 16MB for 256
>colours and 24MB for 24 bit? (plus a 4mb video card?).. I presume
>(like OS/2) that most of the memory is taken up with the interface?
You can get by with a 2MB video card. If you want color I think that 16MB
might be the minimum hopeless memory requirement with 24MB being livable and
32MB being optimal. My configuration is a DX2/66, SCSI controller, and
Diamond Stealth 64 2MB VRAM card with 32MB of system RAM. My configuration
is quite comfortable and fast, providing color graphics and generally better
performance than the black hardware that I've used. You need about 330MB
to install NEXTSTEP Developer; I have a 535MB hard disk that has about 70MB
free with NS Developer and a bunch of apps installed, along with some of my
current projects. I'm planning to get more disk space in the fairly near
future.
>Its wonderful that the least usable interface is incorporated in the most used
>GUI in the world :( (Yes, I have seen win 95, it sucks in comparison
>to OS/2)
That which is really common often sucks. :-)
--
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From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 29 Apr 1995 02:14:09 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
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Keywords: Images, News, Adobe
I note that there are some pretty neat things available on the WEB if you
just happen to have the Adobe Acrobat Reader. This software is available
(free) for DOS (ugh!) Mac, Windows (I think) and SUN UNIX. No word of
NeXT, of course. Can the Sun UNIX be used on the NeXT? (6 meg!) Or is
this just wishful thinking?
Phil Wyatt
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
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Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 20:50:20 GMT
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Message-ID: <3nrkec$geo@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk>
P J Kay (P.J.KAY@ITI.SALFORD.AC.UK) writes
> Subject says it all.
Ignoring the questions and erroneous statements in the body of your
message and addressing the question posed by the subject which 'says it
all', the 'original NeXT' (lets say prior to the NEXTSTEP 1.0 release)
could run non-NeXT standard Unix non-GUI software if you had the source
(and if it would compile -- pretty much a coin toss).
It also had a neat feature that it could run some Sun3 binaries -- this
never worked for us with Sun3 'programs' but we were able to execute a
large Sun3 library (*.a) we needed in an application for which we had
no source. A short lived and quirky feature but fun while it lasted.
- Christopher
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Date: 29 Apr 1995 11:38:14 +0100
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3nt4um$gib@davinci.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
References: <3nb4pt$4mj@portal.gmu.edu> <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at> <ALEX.95Apr27132938@zivserv.franken.de>
> William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
> : I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
> : I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
> : the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
> I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
>There's a driver for the serial port (MuX Driver) which can probably help.
>You can find it at ftp.leo.org (pub/comp/platforms/next/...)
Ah, that looks like an Intel and Sparc product. Is there some driver which
can increase serial port speed on NeXT hardware?
Eren
From: tonmaas@xs4all.nl (Ton Maas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: The Youngest Day on your computer?
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 07:46:37 +0100
Organization: Esquire Nederland
Message-ID: <tonmaas-2904950746370001@stat13-153.xs4all.nl>
What is the last possible date your computer / operating system allows? It
just occurred to me that the Mac clock¹s options expire on December 31st
2019 (at which point we¹re supposed to switch from linear time to cyclic
time, Œcause the next date will be January 1st 1920). Is this just another
case of randomly planned obsolescence?
What¹s the verdict on your computer system? I thought I¹d run an informal
survey on this matter.
Please respond by e-mail and state the name of your system.
I will send the outcome to all respondents.
Ton Maas, Amsterdam NL
From: rbz@eversoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: 29 Apr 1995 12:33:12 GMT
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ntbm8$44k@feenix.metronet.com>
References: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Summary: How do I put my picture on my Home icon?
Keywords: icon nextstep gif tiff home
loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk (Rollerblading on the Internet!) wrote:
>can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
>GIF format.
The basic steps are:
1. Convert your picture to a 48x48 .tiff image.
2. Save in it your home directory as .dir.tiff
Also, if you save an image in your home directory as .opendir.tiff, it is used
as the image that is displayed when your are drag-and-dropping onton your home
directory.
Note: This works in any directory. You can use this technique to change the
default icons in any directory.
---
Rodger (NeXTMail Welcome!)
-----------------------------------------------------------
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Everest Software Corporation Work (214) 437-7636
4347 W. Northwest Hwy, #851 Fax (214) 437-7600
Dallas, TX 75220-3864 Home (214) 517-4884
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: Academic and commercial
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 19:26:41 GMT
Can someone please tell me the difference between academic bundle and
commercial release?
Thanx in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: NeXT STEP academic and commersial
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 19:28:53 GMT
Can someone please tell me the difference between acdemic and commercial
release? Thanx in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: todd@netcom.com (Modd Todd)
Subject: WTB: NextStep ...
Message-ID: <toddD7tAtM.Kqz@netcom.com>
Keywords: Next os
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 19:44:10 GMT
Sender: todd@netcom16.netcom.com
I was wondering if anyone knows of a cheap way of trying NextStep. Does
anyone have an old version of NextStep for an Intel box that they are
willing to sell. Or know if there is a cheap startup program, I am not
positive if NextStep is for me yet, but I do know that I dislike
Microsoft OS's.
Question:
Can you compile programs for the MIPS R3000 r4000 under NextStep or would
I still need to do that on a Sun or SGI box.
Please Respond to
todd@agames.com Atari Coin-op.
--
todd@netcom.com [ was here ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: NeXT STEP academic and commersial
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950428152733.2129A-100000@eddie>
Message-ID: <D7tBns.Dtv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:01:50 GMT
In article <Pine.SOL.3.90.950428152733.2129A-100000@eddie> you write:
>Can someone please tell me the difference between acdemic and commercial
>release? Thanx in advance.
Academic includes the same software as the commercial User + Developer
package does. The difference is that it costs a great deal less, that
it doesn't include any printed documentation beyond the User's Guide and
an Installation Guide along with some propaganda on 3rd party products and
how to buy NeXT coffee mugs, and that your licence allows you to use it only
for academic study and research purposes, not commercial software development.
You really miss out on nothing but the printed documentation. And it's all
available on line with a really excellent search engine. I've historically
been attached to having big books to browse through while programming, but
the NeXT Digital Librarian app has repeatedly surprised me by doing far more
than I'd ever expected from an on-line documentation system before. If you
have a version prior to 3.3 you even get the complete works of Shakespeare
and the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations in Librarian searchable form.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 18:59:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Mouse Speedup (Black Cube)
How do I speed up the danged mouse? It is already full speed
and it is still to slow.
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseSc
aler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz
You might also want to check your news config. Your 'from' line comes up as:
From: root@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 01:40:32 -0500
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950429013928.614I-100000@avocado>
References: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
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To: loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Don,
1. Convert icon to .tiff format (possibly IconBuilder? Definately
OmniImage)
2. rename icon as .dir.tiff and place in directory whose icon you
want replaced.
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ 314/591-4955 vox
NEXTSTEP, 314/935-5799 fax
baby hussain@artsci.wustl.edu net
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/ web
On 28 Apr 1995, Rollerblading on the Internet! wrote:
> can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
> GIF format.
>
> please email direct to me if possible......
>
>
>
> // don loke
> // loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk
>
>
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to read .PDF files on a NeXT
Date: 30 Apr 1995 03:11:38 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nuv5b$3r6@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <3n0obd$dc4@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Dr. Markus Lappe (lappe@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) wrote:
: Playing around with the World Wide Web, I noticed that many documents
: are distributed in PDF format, the format of Adobe Acrobat. I
: realised that there are free Acrobat (PDF) readers for Sun,
: Macintosh, and Windows. But does anyone know of any possiblity to
: read .PDF files on a black-hardware NeXT?
Maybe if we all begged and pleaded with Omni, Lighthouse, and Pages, they
might put some resources into this one. I think it's going to become
a gaping void soon. It should support the hyper-indexing and searching
features of PDF, too. (i.e., not just a PreviewPDF.app)
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: Min-Tzer Lay <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS3.3/hppa and hp/ux
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:00:05 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950429235642.9314C-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
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Last time I checked with next's faq for NS3.3/hppa, you can't mount hp/ux
disk--you can only ignore it.
From: rsmallwo@islandnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Info on NS 4.0 Debugging Tools
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:15 GMT
Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada
Message-ID: <950429223115.305AAD6E.rsmallwo@canada>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
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I have heard rumours that NEXT will be improving the debugging tools in NS
4.0 substantially. Does anyone have more details on the probable features
or is this still in the closet at NEXT?
Has it been published yet when the NS 4.0 beta will be available?
Thanks in advance.
Rhys Smallwood
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS3.3/hppa and HP-UX fs?
Date: 30 Apr 1995 17:10:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3o0gap$5i1@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <D7rMoy.8C9@prz.tu-berlin.de>
In article <D7rMoy.8C9@prz.tu-berlin.de>,
Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>could someone please tell me if NS 3.3 for HP supports already
>mounting of HP-UX file systems (on other disks)?
No it does not. Although you can get around this by using NFS and
remote mounting it from an HP-UX machine.
Ken
--
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Computing & Technology Services Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Client/Server Engineering 1.415.857.3230 FAX 1.415.857.5518
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: 30 Apr 1995 15:24:47 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o0o5v$1mi@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk>
p.j.kay@iti.salford.ac.uk (P J Kay) writes:
>Subject says it all. I'm writing my dissertation concerning the effect of the
>This *is* true isn't it? The other reasons would be proprietary hardware and
>I know NeXT is basically an extremely enhanced X windows interface
This is pathetic, and alas the norm. First it's amazing that a dissertation
can come from such sloppy research work, and second its amazing how pervasive
and extreme people's mis-informed attributions can become.
If it is true or not, I would imagine is a conclusion you must draw from your
research and considering that is the conclusion you clearly want to reach I
have full faith that you will get there.
No it's not an enhanced Xwindows interface.
>It has a software DOS emu now, but originally?
Not originally from the 1.0 days, but I believe had it in the 2.0 days, again
I suggest a little homework. A good start would be calling NeXT itself.
>Out of interest, what do you need to run NeXTStep on a PC? At this
>moment its a bit out of my reach (I only have a DX33 with 8MB RAM
Technically that is enough, but realistically you would like more beef.
>running OS/2). I seem to remember 8 MB for mono, 16MB for 256
>colours and 24MB for 24 bit? (plus a 4mb video card?).. I presume
>(like OS/2) that most of the memory is taken up with the interface?
You've got both your requirements and assumption wrong.
2bit grayscale 8meg 12 reommended
8bit color or grayscale 12meg 16 reommended
16bit color 16meg 24 reommended
32bit color 24meg 32 reommended
Sorry for being so gruff, but I'm tired of all the Grad students coming on the
net hoping that there homework will be done for them instead of doing actual
hard research (and it is hard). Then these hack disertations get thrown
around as if they were credible.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Can NeXT be set to 56.8k?
Message-ID: <D7uwn4.FIt@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us
References: <3nb4pt$4mj@portal.gmu.edu> <3ng9iq$f79@news.tuwien.ac.at> <ALEX.95Apr27132938@zivserv.franken.de> <3nt4um$gib@davinci.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:33:03 GMT
eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan) writes:
>>William V Fleitz (wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote:
>>: I just added a 28.8k modem to my NeXT 040 and wanted to know if
>>: I can set my /etc/remote file to 56.8k or 114k to take advantage of
>>: the 28.8 speeds at 4:1?
>>I don't think so. 38400 is the maximum.
>>There's a driver for the serial port (MuX Driver) which can probably help.
>>You can find it at ftp.leo.org (pub/comp/platforms/next/...)
>Ah, that looks like an Intel and Sparc product. Is there some driver which
>can increase serial port speed on NeXT hardware?
Mux is Intel only.
Make sure you have the most recent V1.7 driver (there are two releases claiming
to be this number, one was on ftp.cs.orst.edu for a week and it had a bug), as
I am not sure what version is sitting on ftp.leo.org; ftp.cs.orst.edu and
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de are the two sites I ship official releases to. Or one
could have the V1.8beta which is certified at 115200 Baud using Taylor UUCP,
tip and others using a `baud rate override' through Instance?.table and kernel
service support ignoring the ioctl call settings for baud rate.
The TTYDSP product is the best way to get speeds above 38400 on the Motorola
hardware.
Ciao -- Mark
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 1 May 1995 04:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3o1n8d$qda@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
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- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
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Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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=====================================
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From: Thomas Olsen <olsen@menext3.engr.ucdavis.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 00:02:03 -0700
Organization: University of California, Davis
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I was wondering if anyone has installed LaTeX2e on a machine
running NEXTSTEP. I would like to do this, but I want to make sure that
I don't overlook anything. Any help on this would be appreciated. BTW,
I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141.
Thanks in advance,
Thomas Olsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Why a DSP?
Message-ID: <D7vq7J.2py@waldo.com>
Sender: news@waldo.com
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 03:11:42 GMT
I've had my NextStation for about 6 months now, and it just occurred to me that
I've never used the DSP chip in it for anything other than hearing "poit!" or
"paper jam". None of these things really need a DSP chip, so I'm wondering...
Why does this machine have a DSP in the first place?
I've mentioned to friends that my NeXT has a DSP in it, and this gains some
interest, but when asked what I do with it (the DSP, not the NeXT) I have to
say... "uh, nothing?". It seems like a very expensive "standard" item, and I
haven't seen any software that actually uses it. Am I wrong? Are there useful
applications out there which use the DSP for sound manipulation and doing cool
things, or is it just a piece of hardware that never got used in the machine?
Any pointers to software to answer my question would, of course, be
appreciated.
Matt
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Now, wait a minute! (was: sendmail is acting strangely)
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:07:14 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950501110714.1240AACUb.malc@daneel>
References: <3nhbej$acn@pith.uoregon.edu> <3nmfbg$bej@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <espritD7pwCC.231@netcom.com>
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>The header from this message looks like:
>>From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
>>Subject: Re: sendmail is acting strangely
>>Date: 26 Apr 1995 21:52:48 GMT
>>Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
>>Lines: 33
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: stepover.eng.sun.com
>
>I didn't realize NeXT is now part of Sun.
>
It isn't, it's just that sendmail is acting strangely...
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:14:15 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
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> Subject says it all. I'm writing my dissertation concerning the
> effect of the independent software vendor on the evolution of the
> interface and cite NeXTStep as an example of an excellent interface/OS
> that failed to gain market share because of lack of backwards
> compatibility. This *is* true isn't it? The other reasons would
> be proprietary hardware and high hardware requirements.
>
Some might suggest other reasons! :-)
(Marketing comes to mind...)
> I know NeXT is basically an extremely enhanced X windows interface
> stuck on a modified Mach Kernel - so will it run 'normal' X programs?
> I know it has its own OpenStep API.
>
Umm, no it's not...
NEXTSTEP uses Display PostScript, there's no X in there, except as an add-on
application (e.g. co-Xist) which does allow you to run X.
> It has a software DOS emu now, but originally?
>
No, SoftPC didn't show up until around NS 2.0, I think.
> Out of interest, what do you need to run NeXTStep on a PC? At this
> moment its a bit out of my reach (I only have a DX33 with 8MB RAM
> running OS/2). I seem to remember 8 MB for mono, 16MB for 256
> colours and 24MB for 24 bit? (plus a 4mb video card?).. I presume
> (like OS/2) that most of the memory is taken up with the interface?
>
It'll probably run on your system -- slowly!
The crucial thing is the set of cards -- NS tends to be a bit picky about
what graphics, SCSI and other cards it'll work on.
Have fun,
mmalc.
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From: droz@phys.ualberta.ca (Serge Droz)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:19:55 -0700
Organization: University of Alberta, Department of Physics
Message-ID: <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3>, Thomas Olsen
<olsen@menext3.engr.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
: I was wondering if anyone has installed LaTeX2e on a machine
:running NEXTSTEP. I would like to do this, but I want to make sure that
:I don't overlook anything. Any help on this would be appreciated. BTW,
:I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141.
There is no problem what ever installing 2e. Just follow the instructions.
Latex has nothing to do with any particular platform. It's just a
bunch of macros as far as tex is concerned.
Serge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: using NeXTSTEP as a firewall??
Message-ID: <D7wM1E.Fz8@cunews.carleton.ca>
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Organization: Carleton University
References: <3nihto$k03@metro.atlanta.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:39:14 GMT
Joseph K. Vossen (jkv@sware.com) wrote:
: With all of the connections to the internet being added everyday, a lot of
: companies are putting firewalls in place to protect their corporate
: network. I realize that it might be considered a waste of a good
: gui-based system for this [and that there are more specialized systems out
: there to perform this task], but has anyone considered using a
: NeXTSTEP-based system for a firewall? If you considered this and are
: using it, what changes did you have to make? If you considered this and
: used something else, I would be interested in knowing why.
</cloak>
Personally, I wouldn't for a number of reasons:
_Does NS support Dual-homed hosts? As far as I know, no.
_It isn't that widely used, so the security implications arent' well
known (except for a bunch of folks in Black Hats that don't say much)_
_Not very easy to rip extraneous stuff out (Interface, NetInfo, etc).
_Other stuff
Personally, I'd take the extra next systems that you have and use them as
mail or news servers, or maybe a web server. Put the firewall on a
dual homed machine with an OS that you can completely gut (or use a
commercial implementation- The TIS firewall toolkit was good for it's
day, but since it doesn't have multihomed support, I don't have that much
trust for it). When I say gut, I mean tear out everything that you don't need
...the firwalls that I set up have things like X,NFS,RPC,UUCP all gone...
not a trace....but then again I'm paid to be paranoid.
later
j
<cloak>
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PS to GIF Converter?
Date: 1 May 1995 17:06:21 GMT
Organization: University of Constance, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o34ed$6l8@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Hi there to build up a WWW- page for our latest results I am want to include images.
Currently these images are in PostScript format. How can I convert them to GIF format. Has
someone written a NextApp for this purpose?
TIM
Answers could be sent to
Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why a DSP?
Date: 1 May 1995 16:35:10 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Message-ID: <3o32ju$662@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <D7vq7J.2py@waldo.com>
In article <D7vq7J.2py@waldo.com>,
Matthew Hocker <hocker@ritz.mordor.com> wrote:
>
>I've had my NextStation for about 6 months now, and it just occurred to me that
>I've never used the DSP chip in it for anything other than hearing "poit!" or
>"paper jam". None of these things really need a DSP chip, so I'm wondering...
>
>Why does this machine have a DSP in the first place?
>
>I've mentioned to friends that my NeXT has a DSP in it, and this gains some
>interest, but when asked what I do with it (the DSP, not the NeXT) I have to
>say... "uh, nothing?". It seems like a very expensive "standard" item, and I
>haven't seen any software that actually uses it. Am I wrong? Are there useful
>applications out there which use the DSP for sound manipulation and doing cool
>things, or is it just a piece of hardware that never got used in the machine?
>
>Any pointers to software to answer my question would, of course, be
>appreciated.
>
>Matt
>
>--
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A company I am associated with provides object-oriented text-to-speech
software based on real-time articulatory synthesis. The DSP is
essential for this because of the heavy compute requirements. If you
want more information, try info@trillium.ab.ca
david
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Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge.
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NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wjl2@quads.uchicago.edu (W. Lee)
Subject: Interesting problem on NeXT Turbo w/cpu load...
Message-ID: <D7x9r1.2y3@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:11:25 GMT
Hi there,
I'm working on a data feed server under NeXT step 3.2 running on a NeXT turbo
color station. The server uses BSD sockets w/datagrams- because REUTERS
will no longer support NeXT Step in future releases of their development tools,
the application is written in ANSI C for the purpose of portability.
Normally, the CPU load of this process as reported by 'ps -u' varies between
0 and 3%. However, seemingly at random, the CPU load sky rockets to 99%.
I'm able to monitor incoming/outgoing net traffic over its two sockets- which
is zero at least 99% of the time- it executes a select() call on its two
sockets, and pretty much sits there waiting for messages. I've verified (via
gdb) that during these spurious, extended CPU peaks, the server is, in fact,
simply waiting on a select() call.
Does this sound like any known bug in NeXT step?
Are there any utilities out there for monitoring system calls in real time?
I'd appreciate any feedback
Thanks much!
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Now, wait a minute! (was: sendmail is acting strangely)
Date: 1 May 1995 18:55:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Message-ID: <3o3aqm$ljm@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <950501110714.1240AACUb.malc@daneel>
In article <950501110714.1240AACUb.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> >The header from this message looks like:
> >>From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
> >>Subject: Re: sendmail is acting strangely
> >>Date: 26 Apr 1995 21:52:48 GMT
> >>Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
> >>Lines: 33
> >>NNTP-Posting-Host: stepover.eng.sun.com
> >
> >I didn't realize NeXT is now part of Sun.
> >
> It isn't, it's just that sendmail is acting strangely...
>
> Have fun,
>
> mmalc.
Nope, that ain't it either. ;-)
However, there is a great relationship between NeXT and Sun. If you remember,
Sun licenced OpenStep from us last year and are presently incorporating it
into Solaris. I, together with Julie Zelenski, are down here part time as
technical liaisons to help them with their effort. It's going great -- I have
to say that it's wild to see things like Mail.app running in an X11/DPS window
next to all the other X apps!
BTW: Those of you who know Josh Doenias might be interested to know that he's
now in Italy helping DEC with their OpenStep implementation in much the same
way. I dare say that we have a head start on them, though. ;-)
Cheers,
--Lennart Lovstrand
<lennart@next.com>
<lennart@eng.sun.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Need help with removeable SCSI device
Message-ID: <jpanicoD7wxnA.HJ2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:49:58 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom7.netcom.com
I'm trying to get the new Iomega Zip drive to fly under NS 3.2 Intel. I
have the SCSI version of the Zip drive. It works fine under MS-DOS/Windoze.
NSI will recognize DOS formatted Zip disks, and I can read and write to
them as DOS disks. But when I try to "initialize" the disks under NSI
I get the following error message:
"Unable to write label"
and it ejects the disk.
Are there any lower levels tools for manipulating SCSI disks under NS/Intel?
Has anyone got this device working uder NS? I can't get any information out
of Iomega since they seem to have erected a very secure firewall against
any customer interation whatsoever.
Any tips appreciated.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Need help with removeable SCSI device
Message-ID: <jpanicoD7xFzo.3KD@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <jpanicoD7wxnA.HJ2@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:26:11 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote:
: I'm trying to get the new Iomega Zip drive to fly under NS 3.2 Intel. I
: have the SCSI version of the Zip drive. It works fine under MS-DOS/Windoze.
: NSI will recognize DOS formatted Zip disks, and I can read and write to
: them as DOS disks. But when I try to "initialize" the disks under NSI
: I get the following error message:
: "Unable to write label"
: and it ejects the disk.
: Are there any lower levels tools for manipulating SCSI disks under NS/Intel?
: Has anyone got this device working uder NS? I can't get any information out
: of Iomega since they seem to have erected a very secure firewall against
: any customer interation whatsoever.
: Any tips appreciated.
: Joe Panico
: jpanico@netcom.com
For anyone who is interested in this problem I will post the answer to
my own question. Tim Wasko told me to use "sdform" directly, instead of
calling "disk"-- it worked!
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
From: abe@vic.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with removeable SCSI device
Date: 1 May 1995 19:40:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3o3dg8$640@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <jpanicoD7wxnA.HJ2@netcom.com>
In article <jpanicoD7wxnA.HJ2@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes:
>
>Are there any lower levels tools for manipulating SCSI disks under NS/Intel?
>Has anyone got this device working uder NS? I can't get any information out
>of Iomega since they seem to have erected a very secure firewall against
>any customer interation whatsoever.
I've had no trouble contacting Iomega technical service via e-mail,
nor retrieving information from their FAXback service. FAX #1393
gives information on connecting a Zip 100 drive to SunOS and Solaris.
Perhaps it will give you some ideas on how to build an NS/I file
system on it.
The Iomega FAXback telephone numbers are (800) 456-5522 and (801)
778-5763. The general Iomega Internel email address is info@iomega.com
and the Zip email technical address is tzip@iomega.com.
From: abe@vic.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with removeable SCSI device
Date: 1 May 1995 19:44:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3o3dmj$67o@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <jpanicoD7wxnA.HJ2@netcom.com> <3o3dg8$640@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3o3dg8$640@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> abe@vic.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell) writes:
>
>FAX #1393 >gives information on connecting a Zip 100 drive to SunOS and
>Solaris.
The SunOS and Solaris FAXback number is 1343.
^
|
Sorry for the mistake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Why a DSP?
Message-ID: <D7xDGL.5r4@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <D7vq7J.2py@waldo.com>
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:31:33 GMT
In article <D7vq7J.2py@waldo.com>,
Matthew Hocker <hocker@ritz.mordor.com> wrote:
>
>I've had my NextStation for about 6 months now, and it just occurred to me that
>I've never used the DSP chip in it for anything other than hearing "poit!" or
>"paper jam". None of these things really need a DSP chip, so I'm wondering...
>
This audio actually has nothing to do with the DSP; it's sent straight to the
D/A converters (which live in the monitor/sound box).
>Why does this machine have a DSP in the first place?
>
>I've mentioned to friends that my NeXT has a DSP in it, and this gains some
>interest, but when asked what I do with it (the DSP, not the NeXT) I have to
>say... "uh, nothing?". It seems like a very expensive "standard" item, and I
>haven't seen any software that actually uses it. Am I wrong? Are there useful
>applications out there which use the DSP for sound manipulation and doing cool
>things, or is it just a piece of hardware that never got used in the machine?
>
Well, the original plan durring the Higher Education days was that a DSP
would let you have a modem, FAX machine, text-to-speech, cryptographic engine,
image processor, whatever in one piece of hardware. They haven't really caught
on until recently. For a laugh maybe somebody can type up the copy from the
cube brochure (my copy is far away at present.)
There are many nifty applications that use it; the MusicKit programming
tools and demonstration apps from Stanford work with it, SynthBuilder comes to
mind as another. There was a recent trend to do music stuff without the DSP
because very few Intel machines had one; however, I notice that V4.1 of the
MusicKit supports various white cards so that will hopefully change.
DSPs have often been cheap in the past; $1/MIPS was the figure that seemed to
float around. However, that may have been for very specialized ones. I have
no real idea what a 56001 costs.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: 1 May 1995 19:26:36 -0700
Message-ID: <3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3> <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca>
droz@phys.ualberta.ca (Serge Droz) writes:
>In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3>, Thomas Olsen
><olsen@menext3.engr.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>: I was wondering if anyone has installed LaTeX2e on a machine
>:running NEXTSTEP. I would like to do this, but I want to make sure that
>:I don't overlook anything. Any help on this would be appreciated. BTW,
>:I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141.
>There is no problem what ever installing 2e. Just follow the instructions.
>Latex has nothing to do with any particular platform. It's just a
>bunch of macros as far as tex is concerned.
>Serge
Will the TeXview.app that bundled with NeXTStep 3.2 still works with the new
LaTeX2e ?
Regards,
Pitak
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P.O. Box 751, Portland, OR 97207-0751. | that here and there."
E-mail: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu | Richard P. Feynman
From: Mark Schwettmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP! Disk unreadable...
Date: 2 May 1995 04:01:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3o4ark$bl1@agate.berkeley.edu>
HELP! HELP!
This afternoon I was reinstalling Windows NT on my system,
and something horrible has happened to one of my NS
partitions.
My setup is as follows :
1 1033 MB Quantum (Empire 1080)
1 520 MB Maxtor (MXT540SL)
I have a 600mb NS Partition on the Quantum, and a 330MB
NS Partition (WITH ALL MY DOCUMENTS) on the Maxtor.
The Quantum originally had a small dos partition and
a large WinNT partition. Today I removed both of those
with fdisk and the WinNT 3.51 setup created a new dos
partition in the space. I don't think anything touched
the Maxtor.
However. On boot I get the following:
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: sd1: MAXTOR MXT-540SL H1.2
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 1 LUN 0 at sc0
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: Registering: sd1a
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: sd1: No Valid Disk Label
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May 1 20:48:29 differencengine mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 521 MB
I used to get this:
May 1 18:29:42 differencengine mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 1 LUN 0 at sc0
May 1 18:29:42 differencengine mach: Registering: sd1a
May 1 18:29:42 differencengine mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
May 1 18:29:42 differencengine mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 521 MB
May 1 18:29:42 differencengine mach: sd1: Disk Label: Neuromancer
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NeXT's fdisk is confused now about the maxtor, reporting:
Device: /dev/rsd1h
Type Start Size Status
--------------------------------------------
DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 200 -
BSDI 200 321 Active
instead of
NEXTSTEP 200 321 Active
The workspace refuses to mount the partition, as follows:
>looking for block 0 label
>probing for DOS
>Filesystem name: DOS
>May 1 20:49:03 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /unlabeled
>looking for block 0 label
>probing for DOS
>May 1 20:49:03 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /unlabeled_2
>looking for block 0 label
>probing for DOS
>Filesystem name: DOS
>mount: /dev/rsd1h on /unlabeled_3: Device busy
>mount: giving up on:
> /unlabeled_3
Please, please, please... can somebody help me?
Mark Schwettmann
mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't use Format w/ PS document
Date: 2 May 1995 10:16:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3o50p6$pv8@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Does anyone know why Format doesn't work while
viewing a postscript document under Preview?
Also, is it possible to print every other document
turn the paper over and print the other missed
half to have double sided copies? Is there another
more versatile postscript viewer out there?
thanks
pc
From: wkj@acpub.duke.edu (Kenneth Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTStep / WinNT dual boot
Date: Tue, 02 May 95 18:23:29 GMT
Organization: DUMC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o5t6j$c6l@news.duke.edu>
I have NeXTStep 3.3 running on an Intel box. Normally, it boots from the first SCSI drive and
runs NT's boot manager, but I can boot NS explicitly off of a floppy. What I want to do is
boot NS from the boot manager. Has anyone done this successfully? If not, what other
solutions are there so that I can boot either OS seamlessly?
Thanks,
Kenneth Jackson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on black hardware
Message-ID: <1995Apr29.101702.5347@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <sfoster-260495153606@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:17:02 GMT
In article <sfoster-260495153606@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com> sfoster@epsilon.com
(Scott Foster) writes:
> In article <3n3u4o$dil@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>, Eren Kotan on
> root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk wrote:
>
> > I am using a NextCube 040 with a Hayes Accura 28800 modem, however, I
> > cannot seem to use speeds higher than 38400 bps. Is this a limitation
> > of the NeXT hardware? Any help is most welcome
> >
> > Eren Kotan, NeXTMail OK!
>
>
> What about on the NeXT Color Workstation? What is the limitation?
>
> Scott
Ok, for all who haven't already learned about asynch lines in BSD Unix:
The serial port speed is enforced by a data structure in the driver and
built into all Unix commands through a header file (sgtty.h). All
utilities who were compiled against this header file will only support up
to 38.4k (NeXT even states 19.2k and 38.4k aren't safe on 030s).
There are several PD programs that override this data structure (and the
driver) by providing their own way to set speeds (kemit, MiscKit, for
instance). But beware, this higher speeds call for data loss on heavily
loded machines!
You can learn about all this by studying the man-pages on 'stty' and
following the pointers mentioned there.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cpu timing subroutine for Next needed
Date: 2 May 1995 16:13:47 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Sender: Bruce W. Patton
Message-ID: <3o5lnr$n01@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Does anyone know where I can find a subroutine similar to
etime or dtime found on Sun workstations? I would like to
have a C or Fortran source code that I can recompile on
my Nextstation to use in timing comparisons for some
numerical work. Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Bruce
(bwp@engin.umich.edu)
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why a DSP?
Date: 2 May 1995 14:51:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3o5gt5$vuc@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <D7xDGL.5r4@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <D7xDGL.5r4@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
(David Evans) writes:
> [...] I have
> no real idea what a 56001 costs.
A couple years ago (when I last checked) they were around $80 each in
small quantities -- probably much less for a major customer.
I think back in the days of the original NeXT (with its 68030) there
were lots of plausible reasons to include a DSP, not all of which
panned out. The MusicKit was the main winner.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 2 May 1995 14:54:04 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3o5h2d$3qv@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3> <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca> <3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Pitak Chenkosol (pitakc@ee.pdx.edu) wrote:
: Will the TeXview.app that bundled with NeXTStep 3.2 still works with the new
: LaTeX2e ?
Works ok here. TeXview works primarily with 'dvi' files, which LaTeX2e creates
just like any other TeX's.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to mount a Mac/DOS hybrid CD ROM?
Date: 2 May 1995 15:32:40 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3o5jao$4tc@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi, I have a few, magazine cover freebie CD ROMS that remain with me from my PC days, and they claim to be dual format Mac/DOS compatible. When I try using them from Workspace Manager, my poor NeXTcube gets confused and displays two icons for the same file, and refuses to open the file, complaining about bad file type, etc.
Is there a way of mounting these so-called hybrid CDs either as a Mac or a DOS volume under NS3.2?
I suppose these dual format CDs are a good idea, but not when you have an OS which understands both file systems automatically ;-}
Any help is apppreciated.
Thanks,
Eren
From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@acs.uswest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PS to GIF Converter?
Date: 2 May 1995 12:47:35 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3o59l8$1tp@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
References: <3o34ed$6l8@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de wrote:
>Hi there to build up a WWW- page for our latest results I am want to include images.
>Currently these images are in PostScript format. How can I convert them to GIF format. Has
>someone written a NextApp for this purpose?
>
>TIM
>
>Answers could be sent to
>Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
There is a ps2gif perl script that comes with the Frame Maker to html package.
checkout http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/Mosaic/Docs/faq-software.html
Paul.
--
Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service proot@acs.uswest.com
I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday
- W. C. Fields
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
From: markus@mowgli.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Markus Porto)
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de
Message-ID: <D7yp8z.148G@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:43:47 GMT
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3>
Organization: Uni-Giessen
Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Thomas Olsen (olsen@menext3.engr.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I was wondering if anyone has installed LaTeX2e on a machine
: running NEXTSTEP. I would like to do this, but I want to make sure that
: I don't overlook anything. Any help on this would be appreciated. BTW,
: I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141.
I have done this a few weeks ago. I only replaced LaTeX 2.09 by LaTeX2e, I
didn't change the programs (virtex etc.) at all. It was very simple: get the
LaTeX2e from a CTAN archive (base, contrib, packages), copy it to
/usr/lib/tex/latex2e, run the install files, create the format latex.fmt and
copy it to the right place. That's all. The only proplem is that the TeX
distributed with NeXTSTEP seems not to support searching in subfolders (like
Berry's Unix TeX does), so you will have to copy the contribs and packages you
need to a single folder, otherwise your TEXINPUTS will get to long...
Bye,
Markus /'^'\
( o o )
-------------------------------------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo---------
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Institut Theoretische Physik III, University of Giessen
email: Markus.Porto@physik.uni-giessen.de (PGP public key available!)
address: Markus Porto
Institut Theoretische Physik III
University of Giessen
Heinrich-Buff-Ring 16
35392 Giessen
Germany
tel: +49 641 702 2810 (secreteriate) .oooO
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: diederic@icgned.nl (Diederic Vlamings)
Subject: Newton MessagePad
Message-ID: <D7yLxK.IFL@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
Distribution: dvlamings@icgned.nl (Diederic Vlamings)
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:32:07 GMT
Here's a new MessagePad addict speaking -
I just bought a new Newton 110 (retailprice $200!) and want to find out what
kind of Newton software is available on the market. My reseller told me about
a Newton CD-ROM loaded with nifty apps.
1. Does anyone knows about Newton apps/magazine resources?
2. Where can I buy/get/ftp the latest on newton?
3. At the moment I'm using NEXTSTEP on a CanonObjectStation PC - Is there
a NEXTSTEP/Newton connectionKit available?
Best regards,
IC Group bv
Diederic Vlamings
Software Consultant
----------------------------------------------------------------------
E-mail : diederic@icgned.nl P.O. Box 4254, 3006 AG Rotterdam
Phone : +31 (0)10-447 1500 Rivium Quadrant 81,
Fax : +31 (0)10-447 0099 2909 LC Capelle a/d IJssel
THE NETHERLANDS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
About IC Group...
IC Group is the largest NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software integrator in the
Benelux and offers integrated client/server solutions for several
marketsegments, such as financial services, telecommunication and
publishing environments. IC Group also offers training and consultancy
in the field of object-orientation, such as OOA,OOD and OOP.
IC Group is representative of NeXT Computer, Inc. and headquartered
in Capelle a/d IJssel.
.....................................................................
From: ruml@bowmore.harvard.edu (Wheeler Ruml)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Wanted: Progress DBKit Adaptor
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 03 May 1995 13:32:26 GMT
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RUML.95May3093226@bowmore.harvard.edu>
Has anyone come out with a DBKit Adaptor for the Progress database
system yet? I recall hearing rumors a few years ago that some groups
were developing one, but now I need to know about working products.
Please reply by e-mail, as I can't keep up with the newsgroups.
Thanks,
Wheeler
--
Wheeler Ruml, Aiken 220, ruml@das.harvard.edu, (617) 496-1066 (fax)
http://www.das.harvard.edu/users/students/Wheeler_Ruml/Wheeler_Ruml.html
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: cpu timing subroutine for Next needed
Date: 3 May 1995 05:40:18 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o7503$14v@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3o5lnr$n01@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In article <3o5lnr$n01@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce
Wayne Patton) writes:
}~ Does anyone know where I can find a subroutine similar to
}~ etime or dtime found on Sun workstations? I would like to
}~ have a C or Fortran source code that I can recompile on
}~ my Nextstation to use in timing comparisons for some
}~ numerical work. Any help would be most appreciated.
Bruce
Try gprof(1), time(1) and profil(2) plus monitor(3)
Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: leex0497@moby.itlabs.umn.edu (Lee)
Subject: DOS partition
Message-ID: <D80s90.DFM@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 20:52:09 GMT
Hi all,
My system has a scsi hd. And the first partition(C:) is FAT
format, second and third are all HPFS formated. So is it anyway to let
nextstep to read those partition and let softpc to run those dos or
windows programs already on the hd. Thanks.
=) Billy Lee
From: nagendra@cs.bu.edu (nagendra mishr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: reading MAC disks
Date: 3 May 1995 14:53:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Message-ID: <3o85cd$lo4@news.bu.edu>
Do I need a special program to get mny next to read MAC disks?
I have NS 2.2 (as far as I can tell, (( I bought the machine at an auction)))
I can format a disk in the slab, but the disk is unreadable on my mac, and
if I format the disk in my mac, it is unreadable in the slab....
Any help would be appreciated...
Thanks
nagendra
nagendra@bu.edu
From: skrbec@fox.cig.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: msql adaptor problems
Date: 2 May 1995 22:52:13 GMT
Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola
Message-ID: <3o6d2t$n6i@newdelph.cig.mot.com>
I've been trying to use the msql adaptor that was put on the
archives a while back, but I'm having little success.
Everything seems okay, except that if I try to create a new
model with the "Default Model" button checked, I get the message:
"Cannot load adaptor: MSQLAdaptor."
If I create the model with Default Model off, everything appears
to create correctly, but when I try to do simple browser operations
with dbkit, I again get the panel message: Cannot load adaptor: MSQLAdaptor.
msql is installed fine, and passes its test, and I can use it. I just
can't get the adaptor working. This is under 3.3, by the way...
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Brad
--
Brad Skrbec "I know engineers, they *love* to change things!"
Motorola Cellular -- McCoy, "ST:TMP"
Lead Engineer
Work: skrbec@rtsg.mot.com Play: brad@darby.chi.il.us
From: vj@cais3.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why a DSP?
Date: 3 May 1995 21:16:51 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3o8rs3$rik@news.cais.com>
References: <D7xDGL.5r4@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> <3o5gt5$vuc@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
The Digital Signal Processor. Of the 3 processors that reside on the
NeXT system board one is the Motorola DSP56001, an 88 pin CMOS DSO chip
running at 10 mips. Its principal strength is an ability to handle huge
matrix calculations with extreme speed. Because the chip itself is
programmable,, it can be customized for specific purposes: high-speed
modems, image processing, two-dimensional graphics, voice recognition,
speech synthesis and real-time laboratory testing and measurement. At the
core of the chip are 3 execution units - a data arithmetic logic unit, an
address generation unit and a program-control unit, all of which operate
in parallel to provide maximum throughput. The DSP's instruction set
consists of 62 instructions, including math, logical, bit-manipulation,
loop and program-control instructions. Due to the simultaneous operaion
of its 3 execution units, the DSP executes all instructions, including
math instructions, in a single instruction cycle(two clock cycles).
-c1989 Next, Inc. (cube Brochure)
But now as then the DSP is used as the sound chip. (16-bit stereo
44.1kHz sampling rate)
Later. -Vijay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9505030334.AA11778@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 2 May 95 23:34:31 -0400
Subject: Re: How do I AutoLaunch Apps?
Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com
In the old days, I had a few apps stored in /LocalApps
set in my WM preferences to autolaunch. However, as
time passed, my hard drive filled up and I got a new
one. I just moved some of my apps in /LocalApps to
this new disk drive and set up symbolic links on the
old (boot) drive. However, now when I start WM, the
"Question mark" icon appears on the apps when WM tries
to autolaunch them. I guess it's because WM tries to
launch them before it mounts the new drive. So does
anyone know how I can setup things such that my apps
will autolaunch, beyond (the non-option of) moving
them back to the old drive? Thanks....
There is a little-known (in my experience) dwrite that might help:
dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths
I have the LaunchPaths dwrite point to a script, which does oodles of
things when I first login, including Launching Apps:
### begin
set launchem = (Pastry MailCall Preview FastConsole)
foreach i ($launchem)
open $i
sleep 15
end
## ok all done
This has the added advantage of not slowing down the machine by
trying to auto-launch too many apps at once. As I login, I usually
go to check my mail. By the time I am done, all the apps I want
running are running.
TickleServices also has a service set up to add things to the
LaunchPaths dwrite, which you may want to check out if you have TS.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gould@danno (D. Gould)
Subject: Please send me your screen shots!
Message-ID: <D80wAu.H7F@info.bris.ac.uk>
Sender: usenet@info.bris.ac.uk (Usenet news owner)
Organization: University of Bristol, England
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 22:11:17 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.windows.x ]
[ Author was D. Gould ]
[ Posted on Wed, 3 May 1995 21:59:28 GMT ]
I am doing a final year project on Cross-Platform Software Development. I badly
need some screen shots of different platform desktops to compare and contrast
GUI features. Please send me a screen capture of your system in a representive
state. GIF/JPG/PCX/anything format is OK.
This is the second time I've posted.. Sorry if you heard the first time, but
I have to hand it in in a couple of weeks.
Thanks, Dave.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 19:46:14 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950503204614.4920AACUJ.malc@daneel>
References: <3nr4al$ebj@io.salford.ac.uk> <3o0o5v$1mi@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
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> This is pathetic, and alas the norm. First it's amazing that a
> dissertation can come from such sloppy research work, and second
> its amazing how pervasive and extreme people's mis-informed
> attributions can become.
>
[...]
> Sorry for being so gruff, but I'm tired of all the Grad students
> coming on the net hoping that there homework will be done for them
> instead of doing actual hard research (and it is hard).
>
Umm, in the UK "dissertation" can refer to a third, or even second year
project, so it's not necessarily expected to be of the standard of a grad
student's work. On the other hand, your points are nevertheless valid...
<sigh>
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: reading MAC disks
Message-ID: <D813CC.3oy@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3o85cd$lo4@news.bu.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 00:43:23 GMT
In article <3o85cd$lo4@news.bu.edu>, nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu> wrote:
>Do I need a special program to get mny next to read MAC disks?
>
>I have NS 2.2 (as far as I can tell, (( I bought the machine at an auction)))
>I can format a disk in the slab, but the disk is unreadable on my mac, and
>if I format the disk in my mac, it is unreadable in the slab....
>
I don't think black hardware can handle 800K variable-speed Mac disks.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Excluding /LocalLibrary/Fonts from search path?
Date: 4 May 1995 14:29:18 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3oaobv$17r@transfer.stratus.com>
Is there a dwrite for removing /LocalLibrary/Fonts from the font search paths?
On our system, the SysAdmin has NFS mounted /LocalLibrary with about a billion
fonts off some CD ... I mostly use Helvetica and Ohlf's (personal taste) and
would be willing to link into ~/Library/Fonts any of the billion I was
interested in.
--
You mean you don't want to watch WRESTLING from ATLANTA?
Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750
"I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fujitsu Hard Drive--Help!
Date: 4 May 1995 23:01:20 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3obmc0$rcj@paladin.american.edu>
I recently acquired a Fujitsu M2964ESA 1.2 gig hard drive. I am having a
problem with it. It will not boot my TurboStation. I have configured the drive
so its SCSI number is one, at least I think I have according to the manual.
Here is what the monitor says at different times.
1) At boot time, three times in a row:
SCSI unexpected msg :1
sc: Unexpected msg
2) Then after finding the CD, five or so times:
sc: Unexpected msg
sc: target 1 lun 0 Opcode 18
sc: addr 0x43bbf10 bcout 66 resid 66
sc: sdstatus 0 sdstate 0 resid 66
sc: s5c state 7 status 0x87
sc: intrstatus 0x8 seqstep 0x4
sc: fifo level = 0 transfer count
sc: command 0x10 config 0x57
3) After booting to the CD:
Fujitsu M2694ES-512 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
From that last line it seems that it re-booted to the hard drive somehow. Even
stranger it acts like it booted from the hard drive. I can eject the CD, log in
and out of our network, everything that I thought you couldn't normally do when
attached to the CD as the boot device.
Any help would be great as I have to have it working by Monday night!
--
Torrey McMahon
--
Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Can't use Format w/ PS document
Message-ID: <D82o42.4yn@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3o50p6$pv8@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:09:38 GMT
Pat Martin (pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know why Format doesn't work while
: viewing a postscript document under Preview?
Because .ps documents already have their formating hard-coded into the
document. Format->Page Layout will work if you open a .tiff or .eps document.
: Is there another more versatile postscript viewer out there?
Tailor is an extremely powerful PostScript visual editor; the only one of
its kind in the world. Email peter@firstclass.be for info.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: sprenger@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Michael D. Sprenger)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problems including Framemaker PostScript into LaTeX on NeXT
Date: 5 May 1995 01:03:22 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <3obtgq$5l4@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
I'm having problems including Framemaker-generated PostScript figures
into LaTeX. Framemaker is version 3.0 on NeXT (black hardware). I
tried both the \psfig and the \epsfbox macros. The problem is that the
PostScript figures cannot be clipped and, in some cases, not rotated or
scaled at all. Often, they are simply superimposed (in their original
size) over the entire page.
I'm sure that this is a Framemaker-specific problem, since I generated
PostScript figures with a number of other applications (Draw, Improv
etc.) and never had any problems.
I've spend a lot of time looking for filters and the like on the Net,
but I haven't found anything that helps. There is a whole collection
of filters in ftp://iamftp.unibe.ch/pub/TextProcessing/FrameMaker/,
including one called "fm4tex" which is supposed to modify Framemaker's
PostScript to make it suitable for inclusion into LaTeX documents, but
it doesn't help either.
Does someone know how I could approach this problem?
Your help is greatly appreciated!
--
Michael D. Sprenger
E-mail: sprenger@turtle.colorado.edu
WWW: http://dator.colorado.edu/~sprenger
From: kornai@almaden.ibm.com (Andras Kornai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Using the NeXT printer from another UNIX box?
Date: 5 May 1995 01:08:55 GMT
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3obtr7$h43@juniper.almaden.ibm.com>
I hear this was discussed on comp.sys.next.* somewhere not so long ago but I
couldn't find it: how do I hook up a Mac or (preferably) a unix box (Linux
or AIX, or maybe SunOS4.1) with a NeXT printer? I only need to print ps
files which are generated by TeX through dvips, (or oztex on the mac) if
that makes it easier. Any advice greatly appreciated, thanks,
Andras Kornai <kornai@almaden.ibm.com>
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SOLUTION: How can I tell what app will respond to a certain file type?
Date: 5 May 1995 01:27:29 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Message-ID: <3obuu1$9cb@horus.infinet.com>
Keywords: Application Respond File Type Extension
This is an age-old NeXT question. It usually starts with a confused user who
double-clicks on a file in the FileViewer and the wrong Application get launched.
So, you tell the poor user to:
Select file in the file viewer
Do Command-3
Select the app you want to be the default for the file type
"Well how to I see which app will respond to .GIF"
You create some file
You rename the file to name.gif
Do command-3
See which app is set as the default
Change it if needed
Sheesh.
When you log in, a file is created in your ~/.NeXT directory like "suffixes3_1.i386.wmd".
This file contains the current mapping from file type (extension) to application. Well, I
wanted to review all the file types and which applications respond to them. The shell script
below will create a zero length file for each file type in the suffixes file in the directory
~/FileTypes. You can then go to the file viewer and click on each file with the tools inspector
window open (Command-3) and see which app responds to each file type.
#! /bin/sh
# MkFileTypes by John Milton (jbm@aiinet.com)
# Set this to the directory where the files will be created
ft=~/FileTypes
# This should match your suffixes file
suf=~/.NeXT/suffixes*wmd
mkdirs $ft
awk '{print $1}' $suf |
tr -d '"' |
sort -u |
awk "{print \"touch ##$ft/file.\" \$1 \"##\"}" |
sed -e "s@##@'@g" |
sh
exit 0
John
--
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NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] [\]DIVER[\] Don't FLAME, inform!
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Excluding /LocalLibrary/Fonts from search path?
Date: 5 May 1995 02:02:22 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oc0ve$mut@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3ob91k$qod@cocoa.brown.edu>
In comp.sys.next.misc article <3ob91k$qod@cocoa.brown.edu> you wrote:
> dwrite -g NXFontsPaths ~/Library/Fonts/Book:~/Library/Fonts/Display:etc....
>
> Two caveats, though. Keep /NextLibrary/Fonts in your path, or make sure
> that all its fonts (including Lexi) are symlinked; the system can get very
> unhappy right after login if it doesn't find these. And make sure that
> every font exists in one of the canonical places (/NL/Fonts, /LL/Fonts,
> and ~/Library/Fonts, not some subdirectory), or else the font will show
> up as Courier. I think this is an unexplained bug, but it's easy enough
> to get around.
Thank God someone else has seen this bug. I thought I
had lost my mind.
I organized our fonts under /LocalLibrary/Fonts in
different subdirs, and used the dwrite (and later the
FontSearch app) to add those paths. I thought it
worked at first, but it definitely didn't work later.
I ended up making sym links up into
/LocalLibrary/Fonts for all the fonts. It now works,
but that's pathetic that I have to do that.
Cheers,
-Nathan
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
US Mail: Yale Univ Dept MB&B / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
266 Whitney Ave BCMSB 437
New Haven, CT 06520-8114
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Fujitsu Hard Drive
Date: 5 May 1995 02:21:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary
Message-ID: <3oc22h$1d72@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
References: <3obm2j$r70@paladin.american.edu>
In article <3obm2j$r70@paladin.american.edu>
tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) writes:
> I recently acquired a Fujitsu M2964ESA 1.2 gig hard drive. I am having a
> problem with it. It will not boot my TurboStation. I have configured the
[SCSI id 1]
[Rom monitor]
> 1) At boot time, three times in a row:
>
> SCSI unexpected msg :1
> sc: Unexpected msg
>
> 2) Then after finding the CD, five or so times:
>
> sc: Unexpected msg
> sc: target 1 lun 0 Opcode 18
[etc.]
> From that last line it seems that it re-booted to the hard drive
> somehow. Even stranger it acts like it booted from the hard drive.
It does. Weird, huh?
> I can
> eject the CD, log in and out of our network, everything that I thought
> you couldn't normally do when attached to the CD as the boot device.
Yes, because it actually does boot from the drive, somehow. I
*think* it somehow has problems reading the bootblock, gets it from the
CD, and then continues to boot, but, frankly, I do not understand what is
going on. However...
You mean you didn't randomly flip the interesting-sounding DIP
switches (SW1) in a last-ditch effort to get it working before heaving it
into the trash (okay, back to the vendor)? :-) :-)
I did. You need to change the "Synchronous Mode Transfer
Request", which is SW6 on my M2694ESA (IMPORTANT: check on yours) from the
*default* "ON == Enabled from TARG" to "OFF == Disabled from TARG". I
have absolutely no idea what this does, I will not be held liable for
damages, etc., etc., but it worked for me. BTW, reformatting was not
necessary upon changing this. It just happily booted afterwards, and it
has been working fine for two weeks now. Someone with more expertise than
me may be able to explain the problem and what "diabled from TARG" means.
Good luck.
--
-Andrew
macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu Hard Drive---SOLVED!!!
Date: 5 May 1995 03:16:42 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3oc5aq$uq@paladin.american.edu>
References: <3oc22h$1d72@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
In article <3oc22h$1d72@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew
MacRae) writes:
: You mean you didn't randomly flip the interesting-sounding DIP
:switches (SW1) in a last-ditch effort to get it working before heaving it
:into the trash (okay, back to the vendor)? :-) :-)
:
: I did. You need to change the "Synchronous Mode Transfer
:Request", which is SW6 on my M2694ESA (IMPORTANT: check on yours) from the
:*default* "ON == Enabled from TARG" to "OFF == Disabled from TARG". I
:have absolutely no idea what this does, I will not be held liable for
:damages, etc., etc., but it worked for me. BTW, reformatting was not
:necessary upon changing this. It just happily booted afterwards, and it
:has been working fine for two weeks now. Someone with more expertise than
:me may be able to explain the problem and what "diabled from TARG" means.
:
: Good luck.
:--
:
: -Andrew
: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
: home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
That did the trick. What kind of computer person am I? I didn't even think of
throwing the switches. Where did my intuition go? Am I losing something here? I
definitely need my summer vacation.
Thanks also to Bryan Butler who had the same fix. It seems that NeXT does not
support the asynch mode that the drive was set to. This causes a problem
naturally. After booting to the CD the hard drive automagically detects that
the computer doesn't support asynch and switches itself in time to become the
boot target. Got to love that.
---
Torrey McMahon
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Excluding /LocalLibrary/Fonts from search path?
Date: 4 May 1995 19:13:56 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3ob91k$qod@cocoa.brown.edu>
References: <3oaobv$17r@transfer.stratus.com>
Howard Ship writes
> Is there a dwrite for removing /LocalLibrary/Fonts from the font
> search paths? On our system, the SysAdmin has NFS mounted
> /LocalLibrary with about a billion fonts off some CD ... I mostly
> use Helvetica and Ohlf's (personal taste) and would be willing
> to link into ~/Library/Fonts any of the billion I was interested
> in.
>
> -- You mean you don't want to watch WRESTLING from ATLANTA?
>
> Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750
> "I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME
> Mail OK]
dwrite -g NXFontsPaths ~/Library/Fonts/Book:~/Library/Fonts/Display:etc....
Two caveats, though. Keep /NextLibrary/Fonts in your path, or make sure
that all its fonts (including Lexi) are symlinked; the system can get very
unhappy right after login if it doesn't find these. And make sure that
every font exists in one of the canonical places (/NL/Fonts, /LL/Fonts,
and ~/Library/Fonts, not some subdirectory), or else the font will show
up as Courier. I think this is an unexplained bug, but it's easy enough
to get around.
God created the positive |=====================================================
integers: zero was here | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
when He arrived. |=====================================================
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DOS emu of NS (was: Did NeXT only run NeXT programs originally?)
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:36:02 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950505142400.1763D-100000@hphalle5b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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On 30 Apr 1995, John Kheit wrote:
> >It has a software DOS emu now, but originally?
>
> Not originally from the 1.0 days, but I believe had it in the 2.0 days, again
>
Sorry folks, but I can't read it anymore: NEXTSTEP HAS _NO_ DOS EMULATION!
Even with NS 3.3!
If you state this (and NeXT likes this statement) you imply that the DOS
emulation is included with NEXTSTEP and no further costs are required.
But as far as I know, NEXTSTEP is only capable to read/write DOS FAT
filesystems. Is this a DOS emu? I believe not! (If you do, you could also
say: NS has a MAC emu.)
There is SoftPC by Insignia, which comes bundled with NEXTSTEP with a
full functional 30 days evalution limit. I can't believe somebody is
telling me, that this is the DOS emulation of NEXTSTEP. It's an
commercial 3rd party product, which suits NEXTSTEP well (and btw. costs
as much as a cheap 486). If you would bundle NEXTSTEP with OpenWrite,
Create, etc. demos, would you say: NEXTSTEP has layout software,
textword processing, etc? Definitely not.
Or is there a hidden real DOS emulation in NEXTSTEP I've overseen?
Greetings,
Boerny.
sorry, couldn't resist, because I also thought, I get a free DOS
emulation with my NEXTSTEP package....
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT STEP academic and commersial
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:32:45 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950505152944.1763H-100000@hphalle5b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <D7tBns.Dtv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Jerry Kuch wrote:
> how to buy NeXT coffee mugs, and that your licence allows you to use it only
> for academic study and research purposes, not commercial software development.
>
This is incorrect, I believe so. My academic bundle for NS 3.3 included
an addendum to the licence agreement, on which the mentioned paragraph
(only for research purposes, not commercial) was reprinted and the
limitations were removed. (It even isn't limited to reselling to other
academics anymore!)
Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
Best regards,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Please send me your screen shots!
Date: 5 May 1995 15:35:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3odgke$ims@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <D80wAu.H7F@info.bris.ac.uk>
D. Gould (gould@danno) wrote:
: [ Article crossposted from comp.windows.x ]
: [ Author was D. Gould ]
: [ Posted on Wed, 3 May 1995 21:59:28 GMT ]
: I am doing a final year project on Cross-Platform Software Development. I badly
: need some screen shots of different platform desktops to compare and contrast
: GUI features. Please send me a screen capture of your system in a representive
: state. GIF/JPG/PCX/anything format is OK.
: This is the second time I've posted.. Sorry if you heard the first time, but
: I have to hand it in in a couple of weeks.
: Thanks, Dave.
If you'd include a valid return address in your posting, perhaps people
would send you screen shots. I will!
Kurt :-)
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+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: cpu timing subroutine for Next needed
Message-ID: <1995May4.160028.21914@atd.rochester.ny.us>
References: <3o5lnr$n01@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 16:00:28 GMT
Bruce Wayne Patton (bwp@engin.umich.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can find a subroutine similar to
: etime or dtime found on Sun workstations? I would like to
: have a C or Fortran source code that I can recompile on
: my Nextstation to use in timing comparisons for some
: numerical work. Any help would be most appreciated.
"getrusage" exists on almost all pre-posix unix systems, but
rarely on non-unix systems. On HP, the syntax is different
but an easy macro patches it.
"times" also seems to be pretty universal, but again it is
not everywhere.
Does anyone know of a CPU timing function that is truly portable?
al.
--
From: vmaxon@micros.sas.upenn.edu (Vicky Maxon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WordPerfect 1.0.1 crash
Date: Thu, 04 May 1995 11:39:56 -0400
Organization: School of Arts and Sciences Microsupport, UPENN
Message-ID: <vmaxon-0405951139560001@towanda.sas.upenn.edu>
On the off-chance there are people out there still using WordPerfect 1.0.1
for NeXTStep, here's an interesting situation I can't figure out -- any
ideas would be appreciated:
I have a customer who's had the same problem on a number of Friday
afternoons: in the middle of a 10-15 page WP document, she gets dropped
into the NMI Mini-monitor with a "system panic" message. The only text she
remembers from the stuff scrolling by is "wplexsup.us". I told her how to
do a clean halt, checked that she wasn't doing <command><command><tilde>,
and confirmed that it happens in WordPerfect. Could this be a memory
problem? Any enlightenment to my ignorance (or even suggestions for what
to look for) would be appreciated.
_________________________________________________________________
Vicky Maxon Electronic Communications Support 573-HELP
SAS Computing, University of Pennsylvania
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~vmaxon
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Excluding /LocalLibrary/Fonts from search path?
Date: 4 May 1995 22:02:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary
Message-ID: <3obitf$q9e@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
References: <3oaobv$17r@transfer.stratus.com>
In article <3oaobv$17r@transfer.stratus.com>
hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) writes:
> Is there a dwrite for removing /LocalLibrary/Fonts from the font search
> paths?
..
From:
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/ApB_Defaults/Defaults.rtf
..
NXFontsPaths
Value: /NextLibrary/Fonts/:~/Library/Fonts/:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/
Scope: Application Kit
Records the search path for fonts. Applications can modify this path to
include other directories if need be. Pathnames should end in a slash
( / ) and be separated by a colon.
..
If you dwrite this to owner GLOBAL (dwrite -g), apparently it will
apply to all applications (this is explained in the same document). I
have not tried this, so caveat lector. Good luck.
--
-Andrew
macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reading MAC disks
Date: 4 May 1995 21:26:56 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3obgr0$ebj@news.nd.edu>
References: <D813CC.3oy@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
David Evans writes
> In article <3o85cd$lo4@news.bu.edu>, nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu>
wrote:
> >Do I need a special program to get mny next to read MAC disks?
> >
> >I have NS 2.2 (as far as I can tell, (( I bought the machine at an
auction)))
> >I can format a disk in the slab, but the disk is unreadable on my mac,
and
> >if I format the disk in my mac, it is unreadable in the slab....
> >
>
> I don't think black hardware can handle 800K variable-speed Mac disks.
>
Well, I once had a brain fart and put a Mac 800k disk in my
cube. What happened, well the write-protect tab wasn't
set, so the cube formatted it to a NeXT 800K disk WITHOUT
EVEN ASKING ME FOR PERMISSION. Now I accept responsibility
for forgetting the cube wouldn't read 800k disks, and I
didn't have the write-protect tab set, but it still should
have asked me. It was a Mac version of Numerical Recipes
in C, so I no longer have the ANSI disk, only the K&R disk.
sob. Anyone willing to send me diffs? This was on 3.2 btw.
-george
George B. Ross
gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.nd.edu/~gross/
Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering University of Notre Dame
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fujitsu Hard Drive
Date: 4 May 1995 22:56:19 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3obm2j$r70@paladin.american.edu>
I recently acquired a Fujitsu M2964ESA 1.2 gig hard drive. I am having a
problem with it. It will not boot my TurboStation. I have configured the drive
so its SCSI number is one, at least I think I have according to the manual.
Here is what the monitor says at different times.
1) At boot time, three times in a row:
SCSI unexpected msg :1
sc: Unexpected msg
2) Then after finding the CD, five or so times:
sc: Unexpected msg
sc: target 1 lun 0 Opcode 18
sc: addr 0x43bbf10 bcout 66 resid 66
sc: sdstatus 0 sdstate 0 resid 66
sc: s5c state 7 status 0x87
sc: intrstatus 0x8 seqstep 0x4
sc: fifo level = 0 transfer count
sc: command 0x10 config 0x57
3) After booting to the CD:
Fujitsu M2694ES-512 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
From that last line it seems that it re-booted to the hard drive somehow. Even
stranger it acts like it booted from the hard drive. I can eject the CD, log in
and out of our network, everything that I thought you couldn't normally do when
attached to the CD as the boot device.
Any help would be great as I have to have it working by Monday night!
--
Torrey McMahon
From: wfung@linus.smcm.edu (William Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: test...
Date: 4 May 1995 18:28:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3ob6d0$ndu@hecate.umd.edu>
Please ignore this message. I am just testing how long
does this take to get posted. Please excuse me.
--
E-mail address: wfung@oyster.smcm.edu
Phone number : 301-862-0414
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD 20686
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: !!!HELP!!! Info required
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 19:12:31 GMT
Can someone please provide me with contact information for the company
Cypress Computer, which makes the product called "Monitor Saver"? As far
as I know the company is located in California. Please respond ASAP.
Send your answers to BOTH following addresses:
g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu
cahek@freenet.hut.fi
Thanx in advance.
From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS486V3.3: Power Management ("Green" PC)
Date: 5 May 1995 10:46:54 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I am running NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a so-called "Green PC".
It's using AMIBIOS (1993), Green Rev. B3,
SIS Power Manager Version 1.0B
If I enable the APM interface in the BIOS setup, NEXTSTEP
says "Power management enabled" while booting.
But when I klick on the new Preferences module (with the
battery icon), all I get is the message: "There was an error
loading this module". No further explanation, no message
in the console window...
So what?
Any experiences welcome,
Willi Pitzeier
Vienna, Austria
willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Re: How do I AutoLaunch Apps?
Message-ID: <1995May4.033100.13138@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
References: <3npmlg$s78@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:31:00 GMT
Kurt,
To solve that problem, I put an extra line in my fstab:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /disk1 4.3 rw 0 2
Workspace recognizes the fact that the disk is already mounted, and
doesn't try to mount it again.
One thing to remember is that if you remove the drive, or add other
drives, this line will probably have to change.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
In article <3npmlg$s78@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu
(Kurt D. Bollacker) writes:
>In the old days, I had a few apps stored in /LocalApps set in my
>WM preferences to autolaunch. However, as time passed, my hard drive
filled
>up and I got a new one. I just moved some of my apps in /LocalApps to
this
>new disk drive and set up symbolic links on the old (boot) drive.
However,
>now when I start WM, the "Question mark" icon appears on the apps when WM
>tries to autolaunch them. I guess it's because WM tries to launch them
before
>it mounts the new drive. So does anyone know how I can setup things such
that
>my apps will autolaunch, beyond (the non-option of) moving them back to
the
>old drive? Thanks....
>
>--
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
>+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: PPP for NS Intel 3.3? Where/how?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD83sqH.H9t@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:47:05 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com
Hi,
Is there a public domain version of PPP available for NS Intel 3.3? If so,
where, and does it come in source or binary form? Also, are there any
documents describing the wrinkles particular to running this under NS?
Thanks for any help.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
From: blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu (David William Gotthold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Transfering Files from a Mac
Date: 4 May 1995 20:46:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3obefq$ecc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Keywords: macintosh transfer latex
I've been trying to transfer some EPS files from a Mac to my NeXT, but I
can't figure out how to convert the returns to linefeeds. This isn't a
problem for most programs, but LaTeX crashes on a file that has a line
longer than 3000 characters, and it see's the EPS file as one long line.
Is there an easy fix to this?
--
David Gotthold
University of Texas at Austin, Microelectronics Research Center
blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu (NeXT Mail)
blumoose@pobox.com........................office (512) 471-5383
http://bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu..............fax (512) 471-8575
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: High performance PCI-SCSI adapter drivers?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD83swz.HJ8@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:50:58 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com
Hi,
Is anyone using any of the PCI-SCSI adapter drivers that come on the NS 3.3
Intel CD-ROM? I seem to remember a lot of people griping about the
performance of NCR PCI-SCSI drivers a couple of months ago. Have the bugs
been worked out? Is their performance good? Any one care to offer any
advice on the merits of one card/driver over another?
Thanks for any advice.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Non Postscript printers under NS Intel 3.3?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD83t3y.HxJ@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:55:10 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com
Hi,
Are there drivers that allow one to use non-Postscript printers under
NS 3.3 Intel? In general, postscript printers are a lot larger and more
expensive than non-Postscript printers. Why not have the host CPU do the
postscript processing, rather than delegating it to an expensive dedicated
processor on the printer? I would love to be able to use one of these
new small/cheap printers, like the HP deskJet or the Canon BubbleJet.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: VideoEditing software???
Message-ID: <1995May5.130950.18760@ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:09:50 GMT
Organization: University College London
Does anyone know of any video editing software for NeXT?
Does NeXT v3.2 supports QuickTime from Apple?
regards,
Elric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9505060525.AA11165@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sat, 6 May 95 01:25:25 -0400
Subject: Good PD or cheap backup system
can anyone suggest a good free/inexpensive backup system for a black NeXT?
Thanks
TjL
From: tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Headless Slab?
Date: 5 May 1995 15:11:20 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California
Sender: tmccarth@global.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3odf6o$mrj@usc.edu>
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to run a slab with a monitor,
keyboard and mouse? What I had in mind was buying another machine to
act as a mail server and run some stuff via NXhost. I'd like to
build a simple network and just drop the machine under my present
slab. I don't want two monitors.
I heard about a product called "Upstart" that was supposed to allow
what I've described, but a call to the manufacturer (Highland Digital)
got me nowhere; they said they never heard of it.
I'd appreciate any information on what sort of hardware and software
I'd need to do this, if it's even possible.
Thanks!
Thomas McCarthy
tmccarth@usc.edu (no NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan)
Subject: RPC
Message-ID: <D84C4x.6tJ@ets.com>
Sender: mikel@ets.com (Mike Lokan)
Organization: ETS, Inc.
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 18:46:08 GMT
Hello,
Has anyone out there had experience using RPC between NEXT and non-NEXT
systems? I am not speaking of Distributed Objects or PDO; I realize they
subsume the role of RPC.
If there are any of you who have had this type of experience, I would
greatly appreciate hearing from you.
Regards,
Mike Lokan
mikel@ets.com (NEXT mail welcome)
From: tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Headless Slab?
Date: 5 May 1995 15:22:42 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California
Sender: tmccarth@global.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3odfs2$mrj@usc.edu>
References: <3odf6o$mrj@usc.edu>
In article <3odf6o$mrj@usc.edu>, tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) says:
>
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone tell me if it is possible to run a slab with a monitor,
>keyboard and mouse?
That should read "*without* a monitor"!
Thomas McCarthy
tmccarth@usc.edu (no NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D84EsK.2zM@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3> <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca> <3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu> <3o5h2d$3qv@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:43:30 GMT
rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote:
>Pitak Chenkosol (pitakc@ee.pdx.edu) wrote:
>: Will the TeXview.app that bundled with NeXTStep 3.2 still works with the new
>: LaTeX2e ?
>Works ok here. TeXview works primarily with 'dvi' files, which LaTeX2e creates
>just like any other TeX's.
The thing I dislike in TeXview.app is that the dvi file is not displayed anti-aliased.(?) Is
there an extension for this around somewhere which fuzzyfies the letters?
--
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| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
<------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
From: Dominic Tam <dtam@cs.ubc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Site for web browser ?
Date: 1 May 1995 20:17:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3o3fk7$18c@cs.ubc.ca>
Hi ! Is there any ftp site having free or
shareware web browser for NeXT (black ) ?
Thanks in advance !
Dominic
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pelletk@il.us.swissbank.com (Ken Pelletier)
Subject: Re: RPC
Message-ID: <1995May5.215025.7040@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <D84C4x.6tJ@ets.com>
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 21:50:25 GMT
Mike Lokan writes
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone out there had experience using RPC between NEXT and non-NEXT
> systems? I am not speaking of Distributed Objects or PDO; I realize they
> subsume the role of RPC.
>
> If there are any of you who have had this type of experience, I would
> greatly appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Lokan
> mikel@ets.com (NEXT mail welcome)
I can say that I've had generally good experiences with RPC's on NeXT. I've
developed apps that use NEXTSTEP RPC servers and clients, talking to servers
running on AIX and clients running on both AIX and MS-Windows. All worked as I
expected.
Hope this helps.
- Ken
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| NiKA Software |
| 1207 W. Newport Ave. __|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: Please send me your screen shots!
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 May 1995 22:11:17 GMT."
<D80wAu.H7F@info.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <199505051751.NAA22985@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 13:51:55 -0400
Hi, Dave.
I tried to send this message to you earlier, but your site seems to be
having troubles and your return address is not fully qualified, so I'm
responding back to c.s.n.misc .
--Eric
-------- Begin Message --------
In message <D7px38.8rH@info.bris.ac.uk> you write:
>Can some kind soul send me a screenshot (1024x768x256ish) of a typical Next
>setup to gould@danno.cs.bris.ac.uk.?
Take a look at the review of and chapter excerpted from the new book
titled "Developing NeXTSTEP Applications." It contains many
screenshots (though they're kind of small), and it's located at the
following URL:
http://www.mcp.com/bookstore/computer/sams/isbn0_2/s306581s.html
--Eric
P.S. Your return mailing address was not fully-qualified in your
original message.
---
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Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922
University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018
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From: kornai@almaden.ibm.com (Andras Kornai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Using the NeXT printer from another UNIX box?
Date: 5 May 1995 18:01:17 GMT
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3odp5d$knr@juniper.almaden.ibm.com>
References: <3obtr7$h43@juniper.almaden.ibm.com>
In article <3obtr7$h43@juniper.almaden.ibm.com>,
Andras Kornai <kornai@almaden.ibm.com> wrote:
>how do I hook up a Mac or (preferably) a unix box to a NeXT printer?
I should have amplified the fact that there is _no_ NeXT machine to drive
this printer, the question is: what _else_ can drive the printer, and how?
From: thomas@catlan.met.FU-Berlin.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS486V3.3: Power Management ("Green" PC)
Date: 5 May 1995 15:51:15 GMT
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
Message-ID: <3odhhj$q5n@fu-berlin.de>
References: <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at> willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at
(Wilhelm Pitzeier) writes:
> I am running NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a so-called "Green PC".
> It's using AMIBIOS (1993), Green Rev. B3,
> SIS Power Manager Version 1.0B
>
> If I enable the APM interface in the BIOS setup, NEXTSTEP
> says "Power management enabled" while booting.
> But when I klick on the new Preferences module (with the
> battery icon), all I get is the message: "There was an error
> loading this module". No further explanation, no message
> in the console window...
>
> So what?
There is an error in the German.bundle
Use the English.bundle instead ...
Ciao,
Thomas
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|| Schmidt-Ott-Str. 13 - 12165 Berlin - Germany
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From: doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: 06 May 1995 23:51:54 GMT
Organization: TU Berlin Fachbereich Informatik
Message-ID: <3oguid$n7g@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3>
<droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca>
<3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu> <3o5h2d$3qv@crcnis3.unl.edu>
<D84EsK.2zM@gurke.ping.de>
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In-reply-to: tini@gurke.ping.de's message of 05 May 1995 20:43:30 MET
In article <D84EsK.2zM@gurke.ping.de> tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) writes:
> The thing I dislike in TeXview.app is that the dvi file is not displayed anti-aliased.(?) Is
> there an extension for this around somewhere which fuzzyfies the letters?
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tex/texview_gray.tar.gz
From: joni@jughead.opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: VideoEditing software???
Date: 5 May 1995 22:48:44 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oea0c$c70@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <1995May5.130950.18760@ucl.ac.uk>
In article <1995May5.130950.18760@ucl.ac.uk> Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk>
writes:
>
> Does anyone know of any video editing software for NeXT?
> Does NeXT v3.2 supports QuickTime from Apple?
>
> regards,
> Elric
If by NeXT, you mean NEXTSTEP, there is an Intel solution: MovieMachine
PRO by ipc. --
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 6 May 1995 21:43:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
We use NeXT machines for NS development augmenting them with Intel
hardware when we need to add hardware. The NeXT hardware is gradually
becoming slower (both relative to the faster Intel hardware and absolutely
as NS grows larger and more complex), but the Spherical Solutions Pyro
upgrade could bring the NeXT hardware's performance more in line with our
Intel machines thus extending their lives.
Despite the increased performance of the Intel hardware, our
productivity on Intel hardware probably isn't significantly greater than
on our slower NeXT hardware due to the problems with drivers, hardware,
etc. that unfortunately seems to be a "feature" of Intel PC's. So we are
somewhat motivated to do what's reasonable to extend the life of our black
hardware.
But looming in the future is NeXT's dropping support of black
hardware. This is reasonable and expected, but what's not reasonable is
the apparent uncertainty about when support will be dropped. Either NeXT
has already made this decision and for some reason hasn't made its
decision public, or hasn't made this decision. But NeXT has said little
if anything about this matter since its announcement of discontinuation of
hardware production was made.
Does anyone know definitively what NS release will be the last one
with a NeXT version? If not, please, NeXT, at least commit to one release
in the future if no decision has been made. NS 3.3 User and Developer are
the current versions, so will you, NeXT, at least commit to a NeXT version
of NS 4.0? If so, I think upgrading our black hardware will be
worthwhile. If not, we'll have to reconsider any upgrade.
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Utilities to Convert Mac PS and/or TT fonts to Black Next?
Message-ID: <D86H7y.1w0@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:31:09 GMT
Hi all,
I recently laid my hands on a CD of shareware Mac PostScript and Truetype
fonts. While most of them are already available for NeXT, there are a few I
could really use, and I'm hoping that there is a freeware/shareware/PD program
that will help me convert them. ConvertFont only works for Mac bitmapped
fonts, and the FAQ has some very convoluted instructions that I expect would
take up a great deal of my time, which would be uncalled for if the beast I'm
looking for does exist. If it matters, I'm using NS 3.0 on an 040 Slab with 20
megs. Thanks in advance. Peace,
James
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_____________________________________________________________________
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| |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: How to eject Mac and PC CDs under 3.0
Message-ID: <D86Hw6.1y5@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:45:41 GMT
Hi all,
Me again. I noticed this problem a long time ago, but only recently have I
begun using my CDROM drive enough for it to be a major pain. Whenever I insert
a CD that is not a NeXT CD, it will not allow me to eject it from the workspace
disk/eject menu. It is greyed out. Is there a fix or a workaround for this.
Thanks in advance. Peace,
James
---
_____________________________________________________________________
| James David Meacham, 3rd |
| e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net(NeXTMail Accepted)|
| |
| Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street|
| First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 |
| (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 |
|___________________________________________________________________|
"The God I believe in isn't short of cash..." Bono Vox
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_____________________________________________________________________
| James David Meacham, 3rd |
| e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net(NeXTMail Accepted)|
| |
| Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street|
| First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 |
| (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 |
|___________________________________________________________________|
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 7 May 1995 00:41:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oh4v6$5ba@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> ...But looming in the future is NeXT's dropping support of black
> hardware.
> NeXT has said little
> if anything about this matter since its announcement of discontinuation
> of hardware production was made.
>
> NeXT, at least commit to one release
> in the future if no decision has been made. NS 3.3 User and Developer
> are the current versions, so will you, NeXT, at least commit to a NeXT
> version of NS 4.0?
> ---
> Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
Good question. We wonder the same thing. Maybe the reason NeXT isn't
saying anything is they have no plans to quit producing black versions of
NEXTSTEP. I'm fairly sure they still make a profit on them. But when the
profits die...Ah well we can guess the rest. On the other hand there may
be too many shops with black hardware in the network mix for NeXT to ever
give in. NeXT server/client nets require common OS versions on all
clients. But only NeXT knows for sure.
Your plea for a statement from NeXT is appropriate. I echo your sentiment!
It's time for some kind of official statement.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
290 Panama St
Stanford, CA 94305
ph: 415-325-1521 fax: 415-325-6857
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: 7 May 1995 02:30:02 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ohbba$vf8@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <3oguid$n7g@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In article <3oguid$n7g@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> doko@cs.tu-berlin.de
(Matthias Klose) writes:
> In article <D84EsK.2zM@gurke.ping.de> tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin
Szallies) writes:
>
> > The thing I dislike in TeXview.app is that the dvi file is not
displayed anti-aliased.(?) Is
> > there an extension for this around somewhere which fuzzyfies the
letters?
>
> ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tex/texview_gray.tar.gz
Now can we get it MAB?
- Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Date: 4 May 95 19:06:04 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mp.799614364@maud>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3> <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca> <3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol) writes:
>>: I was wondering if anyone has installed LaTeX2e on a machine
>>:running NEXTSTEP. I would like to do this, but I want to make sure that
>>:I don't overlook anything. Any help on this would be appreciated. BTW,
>>:I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141.
>>There is no problem what ever installing 2e. Just follow the instructions.
>>Latex has nothing to do with any particular platform. It's just a
>>bunch of macros as far as tex is concerned.
>>Serge
>Will the TeXview.app that bundled with NeXTStep 3.2 still works with the new
>LaTeX2e ?
YES, you can modify your custom variable in the preferences for that.
It just works.
Martin
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From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 7 May 1995 04:16:50 -0700
Organization: Idiom Consulting
Message-ID: <3oia72$aks@idiom.com>
References: <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3oh4v6$5ba@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
The last time I was at NeXT's offices, there were still slabs and cubes
as far as the eye could see. Sure, the developers were using SPARCs, HP
Snakes, and various Intel boxes, but the majority of machines there
are still NeXT computers.
I'm really not worried about the loss of support for black hardware. I'm
sure that NeXT and the NSA will see to it that we at least get 4.0 and
its bug-fix releases.
As for 5.0, well, I expect that we'll simply hit a point where our black
hardware is just too slow for comfort.
-jcr
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RPC
Date: 8 May 1995 01:38:41 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3ojsn1$lnd@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <D84C4x.6tJ@ets.com>
Keywords: NeXT, rpc, xdr
In article <D84C4x.6tJ@ets.com> mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone out there had experience using RPC between NEXT and non-NEXT
> systems? I am not speaking of Distributed Objects or PDO; I realize they
> subsume the role of RPC.
>
> If there are any of you who have had this type of experience, I would
> greatly appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Lokan
> mikel@ets.com (NEXT mail welcome)
If you use XDR (eXternal Data Representation) routines, there
shouldn't be a problem. I haven't seen a problem (so far). What
are you running into (if anything)?
-- Mark Allman
-- Space Shuttle Ascent Flight Analysis/Design, Rockwell Space Ops. Co.
-- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com (David John Burrowes)
Subject: FAQ?: Midi connection w/ MusicKit
Message-ID: <1995May6.170715.1472@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:07:15 GMT
I am sorry if this is a FAQ, or a RTFM. I've looked through the MusicKit
and NEXTSTEP documentation without finding an explicit answer.
If I wanted to hook a midi device up to a Cube, I assume I need, at least,
some kinda cable converter to go from Midi cables to next ports. Can anyone
tell me what this device is and where one goes about getting one?
To save bandwidth, please reply to me. If there is interest in a summary, I
will post one once the answers seem to be in.
Thanks in advance,
david john burrowes
davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
or
death@netcom.com
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Transfering Files from a Mac
Date: 8 May 1995 04:52:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ok82v$oie@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3obefq$ecc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Keywords: macintosh transfer latex
In article <3obefq$ecc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> blumoose@bardosaur.mer.utexas.edu writes:
>
>I've been trying to transfer some EPS files from a Mac to my NeXT, but I
>can't figure out how to convert the returns to linefeeds. This isn't a
>problem for most programs, but LaTeX crashes on a file that has a line
>longer than 3000 characters, and it see's the EPS file as one long line.
>Is there an easy fix to this?
>
>
tr '\015' '\012' < /me/Mac.eps > /me/Next.eps
Charles Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
>--
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 8 May 1995 00:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3ojnqc$3uv@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
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discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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server at URL http://www.next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
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from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
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Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
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Additions from:
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From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS486V3.3: Power Management ("Green" PC)
Date: 8 May 1995 09:56:29 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3okpsd$df@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at> <3odhhj$q5n@fu-berlin.de>
<thomas@catlan.met.FU-Berlin.DE> wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> In article <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at> willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at
> (Wilhelm Pitzeier) writes:
> > I am running NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a so-called "Green PC".
> > It's using AMIBIOS (1993), Green Rev. B3,
> > SIS Power Manager Version 1.0B
> >
> > If I enable the APM interface in the BIOS setup, NEXTSTEP
> > says "Power management enabled" while booting.
> > But when I klick on the new Preferences module (with the
> > battery icon), all I get is the message: "There was an error
> > loading this module". No further explanation, no message
> > in the console window...
> >
> > So what?
> There is an error in the German.bundle
> Use the English.bundle instead ...
Yes, you are right, it really works in English.
I have now fixed this bug.
I have put the new German bundle to
ftp://eitaco.tuwien.ac.at/pub/GermanPowerManagement.rtfd.compressed
- Willi
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Pyro FAQ
Date: 6 May 1995 08:44:19 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3ofct3$rsp@nntp.crl.com>
The following was left out of the Pyro press release:
1) Pyro works fine with the ND
2) Pyro works fine with Daydream
3) There is a 15% academic discount ($899-15%)
4) There is a 15% discount for quantities 10-100 for everyone
Also, you can browse the Pyro web page at:
http://orb.com/Pyro
We were down for a while today because of a power failure (no, it wasn't a Pyro
failure :-)
Thanks for your support and encouragement in this project.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
In-Reply-To: art@cubicsol.com's message of 6 May 1995 21:43:12 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.95May8075713@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:57:13 GMT
>>>>> On 6 May 1995 21:43:12 GMT, art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) said:
> Does anyone know definitively what NS release will be the last
> one with a NeXT version? If not, please, NeXT, at least commit to
> one release in the future if no decision has been made.
At the last BaNG meeting, the product manager for NeXTSTEP said
that NS 4.0 for NeXT hardware will definitely be released.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 8 May 1995 15:26:14 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3old6m$nfh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950430235522.2610A-100000@menext3> <droz-0105950919550001@ciguri.remote.ualberta.ca> <3o458s$ch4@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu> <3o5h2d$3qv@crcnis3.unl.edu> <D84EsK.2zM@gurke.ping.de>
Constantin Szallies (tini@gurke.ping.de) wrote:
: The thing I dislike in TeXview.app is that the dvi file is not displayed
: anti-aliased.(?) Is there an extension for this around somewhere which
: fuzzyfies the letters?
Well, you might want to look up the following URL on WWW:
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/Subjects/
Publishing/Projects/Projects.html
Among other things, there are pointers to two (hopefully merging)
enhanced versions of TeXview. One of them integrates Marcel Weiher's
anti-aliasing code, and is available in a tripple-FAT version
(NIH). It's still ALPHA software, but you're free to try it.
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: chome@gradura.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp
Subject: NEXTSTEP in France
Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin)
Message-ID: <chome.95May8162517@gradcho>
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 21:25:17 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Information Processing Center
Hello.
My name is Mengu Cho, now working at Kobe University, Japan.
Currently I am using NEXTSTEP 3.2 J for Intell.
I am planning to move to a English-speaking university in France
from this July.
Unfortunately I can not bring the computer which I am using
right now to France. I can bring only the OS and other softwares.
Because I like to continue using NEXTSTEP in France, I am thinking
the following two options.
1) Buy a new IBM-PC in Japan and install NS/FIP to the new machine
in Japan and take the machine with me to France.
This options has a risk of tariff and destruction during the transportation.
2) Take only the OS and softwares to France and buy a new IBM-PC
in France and install the OS in France.
The question I like to ask is wheter there is a computer store in France
which is speciallized in NEXTSTEP and sell an IBM-PC by configuring
all the boards and making the machine install-ready before shipment.
There are only three such shops in Japan as far as I know.
So, I wonder wheter there is any in France. If not, I have to go
to a computer store and buy all the necessary boards and configure
them by myself, which might be very time-consuming process.
Also, my French is at kindergarten level. I can't make
diffcult conversation in French if something goes wrong
with the configuration of the boards.
If someone in France or any other place can answer my question,
I would appreciate it very much.
Thank you in advance.
Mengu Cho
Graduate School of Science and Technology
Kobe University
chome@gradura.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: keeping dust out of my laser printer
Date: 8 May 1995 23:08:34 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3om89i$meb@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I bought a NeXT laser printer this past winter, and the only place
I have for it happens to be about 4 feet from my window.
Unfortunately, I live next to a well-travelled road, and my
apartment sees prodigious quantities of dust in the summer months.
Keeping the window closed is not an option, since I don't have
air conditioning.
What should I do? I thought about putting a cover of some sort
over the printer, but I'm worried that I couldn't use my slab then
without overheating the (covered) printer. Would "nppower off"
keep the printer cool enough to just put a blanket over it? Or
should I investigate some thinner kind of cover? I've seen
printer covers in stores, but none which looked like it would fit
the NeXT printer.
Advice?
Thanks---
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: evers@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight M Evers)
Subject: Q: Cheapest place to get NS v3.x for intel?
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <D8AC7r.yyp@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 00:33:27 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN)
The words say it all, but I will say again,
Where is the cheapest place to get NS? As in what student
discounts are available and at how much. I would also like to get the Dev
Resource and accompaning manuals.
As far as manuals goes, are the books published by Addison Wesely
the same as what come with NS?
Please e-mail reply's
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evers@plains.NoDak.edu |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould)
Subject: Re: Good PD or cheap backup system
Message-ID: <D8B79G.IKI@liverpool.ac.uk>
Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System)
Organization: The University of Liverpool
References: <9505060525.AA11165@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:44:04 GMT
In article <9505060525.AA11165@alleg.EDU> Timothy J Luoma writes:
>
>can anyone suggest a good free/inexpensive backup system for a black NeXT?
Er, how about /bin/tar and/or /etc/dump? I have a couple of shell scripts that
get executed periodically by cron. One uses tar to backup important/frequently
changing directories (e.g. the contents of /private, /LocalApps, plus my home
directory) every night. The other runs a level 1 dump on a weekly basis. I run
a level 0 dump manually about once a month.
Paul
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CTI Biology, Donnan Laboratories +44 151-794 4401 (Fax)
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From: ogeisser@borneo.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 9 May 1995 14:11:34 +0200
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Hi
Just to start a flame war :-)
My guess is that there will be NO NS 5.0 as a stand-alone OS at all.
Not for black hardware and not for any hardware else.
We will get add-ons for WinNT/95, for Solaris and ??? (hopefully
much more), but NS 4.0 will serve as the last prototype implementation of
OpenStep for NeXT on their own OS.
Any comments ?
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 8 May 1995 03:54:46 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
> But looming in the future is NeXT's dropping support of black
> hardware. This is reasonable and expected, but what's not
> reasonable is the apparent uncertainty about when support will
> be dropped.
At the time there were loose assurances that NeXTSTEP 4.0 would
be available for black hardware. It was explicitly stated that
there were no promises after that (and in fact, I don't think it
was ever actually *promised* that 4.0 would be available).
> Does anyone know definitively what NS release will be the last
> one with a NeXT version? If not, please, NeXT, at least commit
> to one release in the future if no decision has been made. NS
> 3.3 User and Developer are the current versions, so will you,
> NeXT, at least commit to a NeXT version of NS 4.0?
Given how much time has gone by, I think it would help a lot of
people if NeXT could say, right now, if NeXT hardware would be
included for NeXTSTEP 4.0 (and presumably "minor upgrade" versions
after that, such as 4.1 or whatever). It'd be quite understandable
if they wanted to delay any comments on a NS-5.0 on black hardware.
Certainly the status of NS/m68k-4.0 would make a big difference in
people's interest in upgrading their NeXT's with the new Pyro
upgrade chip. I realize that NeXT hardware can't be a "growth
area" for NeXT, but I'd think that the arrival of NS-4.0 must be
close enough that NeXT could comment on it's likelyhood.
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From: jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott)
Subject: Pyro? (Was: What will be the last version...)
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 07:11:23 GMT
In article <3ok4m7$o3v@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
>
> Certainly the status of NS/m68k-4.0 would make a big difference in
> people's interest in upgrading their NeXT's with the new Pyro
> upgrade chip.
.....................................................................
Did I sleep too long? Do I read the wrong magazines? I'm a NeXT hardware
user since 1991.
What the f... is Pyro? An upgrade for the M040? What is it? Who sells it?
What does it cost? What's for dinner tonight?
Please help me out...
Jan Roskott
jan@icgned.nl
* Why is there only one monopolies commission?
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTmail .signatures
Date: 9 May 1995 13:27:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3onqjk$755@agate.berkeley.edu>
Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu
An old question undoubtedly...but how do I get my mail.app to
include a .sig file automatically? Even better, is there a way
that I could choose between various .sigs when sending mail?
John
(NeXTmail OK)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 9 May 1995 14:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
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References: <3onm5m$sk1@borneo.uni-paderborn.de>
In article <3onm5m$sk1@borneo.uni-paderborn.de>
ogeisser@borneo.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser) writes:
> My guess is that there will be NO NS 5.0 as a stand-alone OS at all.
>
> Not for black hardware and not for any hardware else.
>
> We will get add-ons for WinNT/95, for Solaris and ??? (hopefully
> much more), but NS 4.0 will serve as the last prototype implementation
of
> OpenStep for NeXT on their own OS.
>
Makes sense to me. Despite being available (and generally excellent)
for over 7 years, NS has never been able to attain general acceptance
despite being able to lay claim to being the only OS with an
object-oriented development environment. That window of opportunity is
about to close with the building excitement that seems to be occurring
about Taligent despite the fact that Taligent has been scaled back from a
complete OS. Add to that the substantial number of NeXT employees who
seem to be leaving NeXT to join Taligent. And Cairo might even be
released during this millennium :-)
If Windows/OpenStep is done well, it should become NeXT's cash cow.
At some point, decisions will need to be made concerning the amount of
resources to allot to Windows/OpenStep vs. NS and I doubt that it will be
easy to justify allotting many resources to NS if Windows/OpenStep is to
remain competitive.
I hope I'm wrong.
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From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 07:53:27 GMT
In article <3ok4m7$o3v@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
> > But looming in the future is NeXT's dropping support of black
> > hardware. This is reasonable and expected, but what's not
> > reasonable is the apparent uncertainty about when support will
> > be dropped.
>
> At the time there were loose assurances that NeXTSTEP 4.0 would
> be available for black hardware. It was explicitly stated that
> there were no promises after that (and in fact, I don't think it
> was ever actually *promised* that 4.0 would be available).
It is often useful to check out a company's open positions if you want
to have a look at what they're planning for the future.
This is from NeXT's WWW server:
Title: Kernel Engineer
Department: Operating Systems
Location: Redwood City, CA
Primary Responsibility
This engineer will perform general OS programming tasks (including the kernel,
libraries, commands and loadable modules), primarily in the machine independent
portions of both UNIX and Mach.
Specific Responsibilities
* Assist with kernel tasks including:
* general kernel enhancements
* file system enhancements (UFS and NFS)
* virtual memory enhancements
* performance tuning
* multiprocessing
* Assist with general OS tasks including:
* C (and related) library enhancements
* UNIX/Mach command enhancements
* out of kernel file system enhancements
* security
* multi-threading
* Platform support:
* Intel PCs
* Sun Sparc workstations
* HP PA-RISC workstations
* NeXT Motorola workstations
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now what does this tell us?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: VideoEditing software???
Message-ID: <D89u2M.wn@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <1995May5.130950.18760@ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:01:33 GMT
In article <1995May5.130950.18760@ucl.ac.uk> Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk>
writes:
>
> Does anyone know of any video editing software for NeXT?
> Does NeXT v3.2 supports QuickTime from Apple?
>
NeXTIME is available ...but it is a movie PlayBack product til now
(QuickTime movies)
With 4.0, we have been told, it will turn into a documented object kit as
all other NeXT kits.
Some companys have been able to develope custom apps which include video
editing etc. pp....BUT..they are no polished products yet and most likely
will stay that way until NeXTIME 2.0 (with NS 4.0) which should include
sound support too.
So all we can do is to wait....
Aloha
Tomi
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From: gclem@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 8 May 1995 19:38:40 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
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References: <3oh4v6$5ba@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
As far as I remember, during Steve Jobs pitch at the 1994 NEXTSTEP EXPO he
claimed that 4.0 will be available for black hardware, but after that no
more versions were garanteed, i.e. no Mecca.
Geert
Greg Colello writes
> In article <3ogqhg$7qv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
> writes:
> > ...But looming in the future is NeXT's dropping support of black
> > hardware.
> > NeXT has said little
> > if anything about this matter since its announcement of
discontinuation
> > of hardware production was made.
> >
> > NeXT, at least commit to one release
> > in the future if no decision has been made. NS 3.3 User and Developer
> > are the current versions, so will you, NeXT, at least commit to a NeXT
> > version of NS 4.0?
> > ---
> > Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
>
> Good question. We wonder the same thing. Maybe the reason NeXT isn't
> saying anything is they have no plans to quit producing black versions
of
> NEXTSTEP. I'm fairly sure they still make a profit on them. But when the
> profits die...Ah well we can guess the rest. On the other hand there may
> be too many shops with black hardware in the network mix for NeXT to
ever
> give in. NeXT server/client nets require common OS versions on all
> clients. But only NeXT knows for sure.
>
> Your plea for a statement from NeXT is appropriate. I echo your
sentiment!
> It's time for some kind of official statement.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Greg Colello
> Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
> 290 Panama St
> Stanford, CA 94305
> ph: 415-325-1521 fax: 415-325-6857
> gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VideoEditing Software?
Date: 8 May 1995 21:32:45 GMT
Organization: University College London
Message-ID: <3om2lt$mro$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
I am interested in finding out if there is any software/hardware
for video editing on a NeXT 040 (25).
Can anyone with info please e-mail me at zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk.
Please do not use my Compuserve no.
Cheers!
Elric
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From: Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 8 May 1995 21:44:02 GMT
Organization: University College London
Message-ID: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Does anyone know anything about modelling/animation
software for NeXT (on 040 25mhz NeXT hardware, say, with
Dimension board populated with an i860)??
I have experience with Alias and SoftImage, and
procedural Renderman. Any suggestions???
--
e-mail: zcwayhl@ucl.a.uk Compuserve: e-mail for details
From: Dario Ringach <dario>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Can I use the floppy controller on the Adaptec?
Date: 9 May 1995 15:02:59 GMT
Organization: New York University
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To: nextgate@cs.cornell.edu
I am running NextStep 3.2 on a Gateway DX2/66V with an Adaptec
controller. For some reason the floppy disk (on the motherboard) stopped
working... I was wondering if it is possible to use the floppy disk
controller on the adapted instead. Can it be done?
Thanks in advance...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 21:29:59 GMT
In article <3oo00n$6fb@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
>
> If Windows/OpenStep is done well, it should become NeXT's cash cow.
>At some point, decisions will need to be made concerning the amount of
>resources to allot to Windows/OpenStep vs. NS and I doubt that it will be
>easy to justify allotting many resources to NS if Windows/OpenStep is to
>remain competitive.
>
If that happens something like NetBSD for black with somebody's OpenStep
might be the only hope of staying current.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Problems including Framemaker PostScript into LaTeX on NeXT
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:43:00 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950509104300.259AACUR.malc@daneel>
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>I've spend a lot of time looking for filters and the like on the Net,
>but I haven't found anything that helps. There is a whole collection
>of filters in ftp://iamftp.unibe.ch/pub/TextProcessing/FrameMaker/,
>including one called "fm4tex" which is supposed to modify Framemaker's
>PostScript to make it suitable for inclusion into LaTeX documents, but
>it doesn't help either.
>
>Does someone know how I could approach this problem?
>
Tailor.
It's a graphical PostScript editing package from FirstClass. It's
commercial, but if you're having to do stuff like this and value your time
at all it'll pay for itself within days. I can't imagine life without it
now.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
Subject: Zip with NeXT
Date: 9 May 1995 19:59:10 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3oohie$lf0@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Just to add my two cents:
I got my ZIP drive and connected it to a NeXTStation
Color 25MHz with no problems whatsoever. It recognized
the Disk as a SCSI device and the cartridge as a
removable-media Apple Disk. I don't have extra disks
yet, so I did not reformat the only disk I have.
One caveat: Executor (i.e. Mac Emulator for NeXT) does
not recognize the disk. I might still be able to get it
to work, though. Anybody has a solution for that?
To connect it to a NEXT it is easiest if you have
already an external 50pin SCSI device. This way, you can
use a standard "Apple System Cable" (25-50 pin) to connect
the ZIP drive to the first SCSI device's 50 pin connector.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Web Browsers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 8 May 1995 20:50:03 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3om05r$a17@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: gpmenos@sysof2
What are our options, in addition to OmniWeb.app for browsing the
World Wide Web. I recall seeing an announcement for a new product,
about 45 days ago (a pre-release announcment)... but have not seen
anything since...
Thanks for any information.
Phil
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT station needed urgently
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Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:54:26 GMT
We are looking for a used Monitor Saver for NeXT station (68040
processor). Monitor Saver is made by Cypress Computer. We called them to
order it, but were told that this product for black hardware is no longer
produced. They manufacture it now only for Intel based machines. We were
just wondering if someone has Monitor Saver for black hardware and is
willing to sell it to us. We desperately need this piece of hardware.
Please respond ASAP.
Thanx in advance.
Alex.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Pyro? (Was: What will be the last version...)
Date: 10 May 1995 00:47:22 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
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jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott) writes:
> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> > Certainly the status of NS/m68k-4.0 would make a big difference
> > in people's interest in upgrading their NeXT's with the new
> > Pyro upgrade chip.
> ................................................................
>
> Did I sleep too long? Do I read the wrong magazines? I'm a NeXT
> hardware user since 1991.
>
> What the f... is Pyro? An upgrade for the M040? What is it? Who
> sells it? What does it cost?
In the last week or so, there was a press release posted to
comp.sys.next.announce for it. Look for one with the subject
of:
PRESS RELEASE: Spherical Solutions announces Pyro 50Mhz
Accelerator for NeXT 25 Mhz Hardware
I'd quote more of the article, but it doesn't seem to be on our
local usenet hub (the RPI usenet hub is "having a little trouble"
lately... Sigh). It would have been posted around May 5th, 1995.
If you don't see it in your local hub's collection of
comp.sys.next.announce, you can check it out at the StepWise
www server. Use something like OmniWeb or Spiderwoman (if you're
on a NeXTSTEP machine - or Netscape or Mosaic if you're on other
platforms) to check URL:
http://www.stepwise.com/NEXTSTEP_Usenet/newsgroups/index.html
and check out the comp.sys.next.announce archives. There had
been a problem with these archives (for those of you who tried
over the past few months), but that's now fixed.
The press release starts out with:
Spherical Solutions is pleased to annouce the availability
of its "Pyro(TM) 50 mhz Accelerator Board" for all 25 mhz
Motorola 68040-based NeXT hardware, including the Cube,
NeXT Station and NeXT Station Color. Manufactured to
Spherical's specifications by Newer Technology, one of the
leading designers and manufacturers of accelerator products
for the Apple Macintosh (tm) line, the Pyro effectively
doubles the processing power of the original NeXT computer.
(well, not the "original" NeXT computer, which was a 68030, but
of the original 68040 models...). The degree of improvement that
you'll see will depend on what kind of work you do with your NeXT.
My own recommendation is that if you're looking for performance
improvements, then the first thing to do is make sure you have a
decent amount of RAM. If you have the RAM, and still want more
speed, then this accelerator looks like it might be very interesting.
The price on it is something like $900, and there's a 15% discount
for academic users. Note that this accelerator is only for NeXT's
which have the 25Mhz 68040 in them, it won't work with a Turbo NeXT.
More details are available in the press release, or by sending email
to pyro@orb.com, or by checking the following URLs:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/documents/Pyro.test.README
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/documents/Pyro.test.ps
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/documents/Pyro.info.ps
(note that these files have moved from the locations listed in the
press release in comp.sys.next.announcement)
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: "M.T. Carrasco Benitez" <m.carrasco-benitez@mhsg.cec.be>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on black hardware + FaxModem
Date: 10 May 1995 08:14:49 GMT
Message-ID: <3opslp$bd@caladan.restena.lu>
References: <sfoster-260495153606@sdf.gcom.epsilon.com> <1995Apr29.101702.5347@nidat.sub.org>
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I Am having problems connecting a Fax modem to the Black Cube.
It is connected to the A port, "tip" works fine.
I declared a FaxModem with the PrinterManager and the Cube dial
the right fax, but the handshake failed.
Regards
From: fletcher@nova.umuc.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SLIP and 3.3
Date: 10 May 1995 08:18:30 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Message-ID: <3oqaum$av9@nova.umuc.edu>
Keywords: SLIP
I am running the PD (Loius') version of SLIP and since upgrading to
3.3 I am getting some strange behavior (I say this since I am running
the same SLIP configuration at home with 3.2 and don't see this happening).
There are several things, but one consistant one is that when I boot
up the system, the SLIP will do a dailout. Anyone else experiencing
this? What might the problem be and how do I correct it.
BTW-where are the FAQ for these(ie, comp.sys.next.*) newsgroups kept?
Thanks in advance.
Charlie
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From: alex@bark.oit.gatech.edu (Alex)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you redirect mic input to speakers (black hardware) ?
Date: 10 May 1995 12:39:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3oqc6u$rsk@mordred.gatech.edu>
I have a Turbo slab running 3.0 and I want to be able to plug a CD
player into the mic input on back of the monitor and have it play
through the speakers. I know on a Sun you can do this by typing
"cat /dev/sound > /dev/sound", but the NeXT doesn't have a /dev/sound.
Anybody know which device(s) I need to redirect? Thanks.
--
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Date: Tue, 9 May 95 11:15:08 -0400
Subject: The Practicalities of Owning a NeXT
Hi all. I will be "acquiring" a black mono-NeXT (running 3.2) soon,
and was wondering if anyone had any idea how much it cost to keep it
on 24/7 ("a lot" vs "a little") as far as electricity and such.
Also, is there a way to turn the monitor off and keep the computer on
(I've never heard about a built-in power-save or anything like that)?
Is there a program around that allows you to keep the NeXTprinter off
(nppower off) when not in use?
Any other tidbits of advice/information/whatever that you might want
to offer will be gladly accepted. For 4 years I've been on a network
of NeXTs, using any of a whole host (ha! no pun intended) of
machines, and now I find myself "in charge" of running one. I'll
probably find myself with new respect for our sysadmin after I leave
(since we have 400+ NeXTs and I'll only have to deal with one)
Thanks
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: How do you redirect mic input to speakers (black hardware) ?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "10 May 1995 12:39:58 GMT."
<3oqc6u$rsk@mordred.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <199505102029.QAA17009@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Cc: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:29:02 -0400
Hi.
In message <3oqc6u$rsk@mordred.gatech.edu>you write:
>I have a Turbo slab running 3.0 and I want to be able to plug a CD
>player into the mic input on back of the monitor and have it play
>through the speakers. I know on a Sun you can do this by typing
>"cat /dev/sound > /dev/sound", but the NeXT doesn't have a /dev/sound.
>Anybody know which device(s) I need to redirect? Thanks.
SunOS/Solaris has /dev/audio and /dev/audioctl; NEXTSTEP has /dev/sound .
However, you can't just read from and write to /dev/sound under
NEXTSTEP, even though that would be the UNIX way. I'm not sure why; I
guess that NeXT wanted to restrict interaction with the audio device
to the SoundKit.
Perhaps someone out there knows the real reason or can correct me.
--Eric
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From: bill@il.us.swissbank.com
Subject: Blakc & White Software
Message-ID: <1995May10.172237.25666@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 17:22:37 GMT
Does anyone have the phone # of B&W the makers of NXFax?
From: u10786@sas-sun.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Marcus Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Edit: shut off "getwd"
Date: 10 May 1995 20:30:43 GMT
Organization: National Energy Research Supercomputer Center
Sender: u10786@sas-sun (Marcus Day)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3or7pj$jr7@cronkite.nersc.gov>
Anyone know how to shut off Edit requesting the directory
of a file before opening it in a window?
I have an AFS mounted directory, and my AFS software has a
bug such that "getwd" fails. As a result, since Edit requests
this info for making the title bar, Edit fails to open the
file.
My Edit works fine on files not in the AFS directories, and
can open the files in the AFS directories when I use the
"open file" menu. The AFS bug even shows up when using the
Terminal app. Say I "cd" into a mounted directory. If I then
do a "pwd" I get
pwd: getwd: can't open ..
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please send to mday@nersc.gov
-Marc
PS AFS is a lot like NFS in terms of mounting remote file
systems, and then making that mount 'transparent' to the
user.
From: Dan_Menchaca@quickmail.apple.com (Joaquin Menchaca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Binary compatibility to icbs2 and HPUX
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:02:01 -0800
Organization: Apple
Message-ID: <Dan_Menchaca-1005951002010001@mac892.kip.apple.com>
Is NeXTStep x86 compatible with SCO binaries (icbs2 standard) like
UnixWare and Linux? On the HP workstations (not that I can afford one
yet), can NeXTStep run HPUX binaries. It would be nice to run NeXTStep
and only NeXTStep, but some vendors will not make NeXTStep applications or
at least the ones I wanna run like WordPerfect, CorelDraw, and MAE
(Macintosh Application Enviroment).
-jm
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help. The application NeXT_Meter won't launch.
Date: 10 May 1995 22:40:38 GMT
Organization: UB
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3orfd6$ml3@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: jh
I am running a NeXTstation with 3.0 installed. I just got an app,
NeXT_Meter that doesn't launch. I get the following message from the
console:
syslog: objc: class `NXSoundParameters' not linked into application
cleartime setto 30
start: report time = 1
SoundReporter:grabbed sound out device on host []
Meter[215]: objc: NXSoundOut: does not recognize selector -setParameters:
Can someone please tell me if there is a way of "fixing" this problem
or is 3.0 getting to old to run this app?
Thanks for your info.
Ze Tomas
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Blakc & White Software
Date: 11 May 1995 01:46:22 GMT
Organization: Me? Organised?!
Message-ID: <3orq9e$tsa@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <1995May10.172237.25666@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1995May10.172237.25666@il.us.swissbank.com>,
<bill@il.us.swissbank.com > wrote:
>Does anyone have the phone # of B&W the makers of NXFax?
802-496-8500, Fax 802-496-5112, email: nxfax@bandw.com
david
----
--
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Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge.
hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778 | (Albert Einstein)
NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: tseg@access5.digex.net (accounts)
Newsgroups: dc.jobs,misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: US-Washington-DC; NeXTStep/OOD/Local Telephone; TSEG, LTD.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 10 May 1995 19:36:28 -0400
Organization: The Software Engineering Group, Ltd., Mt. Airy, MD USA.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3orils$c62@access5.digex.net>
Summary: Long term contract; Excellent Job Environment
Keywords: SS5, SONET
The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for
software professionals/consultants with the following experiences:
ObjectiveC
NeXT Step
4+ years OOD experience
BS CS/Eng. MS is preferred
6+ years commercial experience
Local Telephone experience (SS5, SONET, DMS-100)
Please fax your resumes to 1-301-829-2813 or send your ASCII resume
to tseg@access.digex.net
From: michael@wolfgang (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS486V3.3: Power Management ("Green" PC)
Date: 11 May 1995 19:17:39 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <3otnsj$8kv@nntp.crl.com>
References: <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at> <3odhhj$q5n@fu-berlin.de> <3okpsd$df@news.tuwien.ac.at>
>> > If I enable the APM interface in the BIOS setup, NEXTSTEP
>> > says "Power management enabled" while booting.
I just installed 3.3 on a "Green PC" (75Mhz Pentium PCI w/Adaptec and
Diamond Stealth64) which ran 3.2 fine. The upgrade appeared to go well
but when I rebooted the system it hung right after the message "Power
Management Enabled."
I attempted "Config=Default" and also tried booting up in single user
mode but never made it past that message. Does anyone know of any way
to disable power management? Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Michael Rutchik
michael@mmgraph.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Zip with NeXT
References: <3oohie$lf0@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 12:19:53 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May11.121953.9028@proximus.north.de>
Distribution: usa
Im not sure, but I guess you have to start Executor BEFORE you insert any
Mac-Disk. Otherwise it gets mounted by the NeXT.
G.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT station needed urgently
References: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950508154856.3139A-100000@eddie>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 12:21:50 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May11.122150.9104@proximus.north.de>
What is "Monitor Saver"?
Wondering, Gerhard.
If it is what I think it is, then I absolutely need it as well.
From: phowell@beast.gly.uky.edu (Paul Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Using the NeXT printer from another UNIX box?
Date: 11 May 1995 14:24:13 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ot6md$bvl@t2.mscf.uky.edu>
References: <3obtr7$h43@juniper.almaden.ibm.com>
In article <3obtr7$h43@juniper.almaden.ibm.com> kornai@almaden.ibm.com
(Andras Kornai) writes:
> I hear this was discussed on comp.sys.next.* somewhere not so long ago
> but I couldn't find it: how do I hook up a Mac or (preferably) a unix
> box (Linux or AIX, or maybe SunOS4.1) with a NeXT printer?
>
> Andras Kornai <kornai@almaden.ibm.com>
As I recall, we just put a cheap next box on the network and set up the
next laser printer on it. Then we could configure the next printer as one
of the network printers without a problem (the rest were Suns). The next
printer requires the next computer to actually do the postscript
translation. Very fast solution (good printer). Good excuse to have a
cube around :) - Paul.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: crash notifier
Date: 11 May 1995 20:58:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120156.AA01899@alleg.EDU>
does anyone know of a program that will let you know when a machine
goes down? Say I am on a network wich has next1, next2, and next3,
and I want to know if next3 goes down.
any suggestions?
Thanks!
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: swapspace surges
Date: 11 May 1995 23:12:28 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120404.AA06664@alleg.EDU>
anyone who can help, guess, or answer, please try.
I am logged on, minding my own business, nothing much going on... I
have WatchSwap running and it shows 16MB (the low mark).... la la la
then POW 17.6 MB, then 18.3, then 19.5 (those numbers are not the
actual numbers, just the approximation).
All of a sudden, I have this great jump, and then it dies down. How
can I find out which app or process is the cause?
Thanks
TjL
--
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 9 May 1995 20:03:14 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>Does anyone know anything about modelling/animation
>software for NeXT (on 040 25mhz NeXT hardware, say, with
>Dimension board populated with an i860)??
>I have experience with Alias and SoftImage, and
>procedural Renderman. Any suggestions???
For modelling we have either intuitiv3d, which has a really nice interface or
solidThinking which is more powerful, but at the price of ease of use.
Unfortunatly, as far as I know there is no useful animation tool (3d that is,
Animo rules for 2d) on NS--nothing like 3dstudio on dos. It sucks, this
platform could rule, and the 3d accident recontruction business is a lucrative
niche that could greatly benefit from NS, but noone seems to want to put out
such a product on NS.
It's too bad.
I have a friend really into this stuff who has a couple of NeXT machines (one
is a ND), he writes for 3dArtist and wanted to use his NeXT's...but the tools
just are not there. A modeler is just half of the puzzle, NS needs a good
animation package-ala 3dstudio
Later, John
From: David McElroy <75450.3334@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Colleges using NEXTSTEP?
Date: 10 May 1995 02:04:04 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3op6uk$m7j$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
I'm trying to find a college program in software engineering (or
something similar) which uses NEXTSTEP or very NeXT-like concepts.
Any suggestions?
David McElroy
75450.3334@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Web Browsers for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <thompsonD8GDvG.4CI@netcom.com>
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <3om05r$a17@cnn.princeton.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:54:52 GMT
Sender: thompson@netcom17.netcom.com
In comp.sys.next.misc, gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU proclaimed to the world:
>What are our options, in addition to OmniWeb.app for browsing the
>World Wide Web. I recall seeing an announcement for a new product,
>about 45 days ago (a pre-release announcment)... but have not seen
>anything since...
SpiderWoman.app
Netsurfer.app (just released)
Netsurfer is more than just a web browser, check it out. Very cool.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS486V3.3: Power Management ("Green" PC)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 12 May 1995 13:57:15 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3ovpfr$qju@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3ocvmu$9ip@news.tuwien.ac.at> <3odhhj$q5n@fu-berlin.de> <3okpsd$df@news.tuwien.ac.at> <3otnsj$8kv@nntp.crl.com>
Michael Rutchik (michael@wolfgang) wrote:
: I attempted "Config=Default" and also tried booting up in single user
: mode but never made it past that message. Does anyone know of any way
: to disable power management? Any other ideas?
Can't you disable the power manangment from the BIOS setup?
--
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Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Free Fonts
Date: 11 May 1995 23:33:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120431.AA07725@alleg.EDU>
where can I find any free fonts for the NeXT (black)?
are they difficult to install?
thanks
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What is /usr/nje/bin/csh?
Date: 12 May 1995 09:32:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3ov9ui$cnp@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950511230802.4367A-100000@lipschitz>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950511230802.4367A-100000@lipschitz> writes:
>> What is /usr/nje/bin/csh?
>>
>> -- kc
It's the Japanized csh. nje = NeXT Japanese Environment
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http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: "hypothetical" NeXT FAX question
Date: 12 May 1995 00:00:19 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120458.AA08731@alleg.EDU>
let's say I was a fool and had no idea how to accomplish sending and
receiving faxes through a SLIP account set up to a m68k NeXT with a
14.4 kbps modem.
Where would I start and what would I have to do to be able to
accomplish setting everything up?
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: "D.A. Brown" <D.A.Brown@ncl.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: Thinking of buying a NeXT
Date: 12 May 1995 11:53:47 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne
Message-ID: <3ovi8b$4n7@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk>
I am looking to buy a reasonably cheep UNIX workstation and as a Mac
user, someone mentioned NeXT's to me.
I am an undergrad physics student and a large part of my course involves
using hp apollo 700 series workstations, which, unfortunately are
somewhat out of my price range! :-)
Can anyone give me some information on NeXT's or point me to an faq. I
don't have any experience with any workstations other than hp's really,
so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Duncan.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Pyro? (Was: What will be the last version...)
Date: 12 May 1995 09:11:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505121408.AA23357@alleg.EDU>
Did I sleep too long? Do I read the wrong magazines?
check your on-line at csn.announce (read on)
I'm a NeXT hardware user since 1991.
hey, me too
What the f... is Pyro?
An upgrade for the M040?
What is it?
it is a 50 mhz Accelerator Board for the NON-TURBO NeXTs (68040-based
NeXT hardware, including the Cube, NeXT Station and NeXT Station
Color).
Who sells it?
Spherical Solutions.
contact: Samuel M. Goldberger <smg@orb.com>
What does it cost?
$899
What's for dinner tonight?
God I hope it isn't chicken again.
(here's the full post, direct from csn-announce of a few days back.)
From: Samuel Goldberger <smg@orb.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: Spherical Solutions announces Pyro 50Mhz
Accelerator for NeXT 25 Mhz Hardware
Date: 5 May 1995 02:12:28 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Lines: 105
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com
Approved: sanguish@digifix.com
Message-ID: <3ocfkc$dtk@digifix.digifix.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com
SPHERICAL SOLUTIONS ANNOUNCES AVAILABILITY OF THE PYRO 50MHZ
ACCELERATOR BOARD FOR NEXT 25 MHZ COMPUTERS.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
For more information please contact:
Samuel M. Goldberger, President
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
415-381-9556--fax
smg@orb.com--email
May 4, 1995
Spherical Solutions is pleased to annouce the availability of
its "Pyro(TM) 50 mhz Accelerator Board" for all 25 mhz Motorola
68040-based NeXT hardware, including the Cube, NeXT Station
and NeXT Station Color. Manufactured to Spherical's specifications
by Newer Technology, one of the leading designers and
manufacturers of accelerator products for the Apple Macintosh
(tm) line, the Pyro effectively doubles the processing power
of the original NeXT computer.
Spherical's President, Sam Goldberger, says, "Many NextStep
users love the original "black" NeXT hardware, because of the
reliability, quality, appearance and the range of applications
available, some of which haven't been ported to non-Motorola
machines (Improv, WriteNow, etc.) Moreover, many users have
made significant investments in their hardware and want to
derive maximum value. But they want to maximize performance
of their machines at a reasonable price. This is why we
designed the Pyro."
"It Just Works"
The Pyro is a small daugherboard that plugs into the existing
'040 socket on the NeXT motherboard. It contains a 50 mhz '040
chip with integral cooling fan and support circuitry. No
additional software is required, and there are no known
incompatibilities with the operating system or any tested
application. All other features and ports (DSP, printer and
serial ports, ethernet, etc) operate normally. "It just works,"
says Goldberger. Different models of the Pyro are designed to
operate with both Cube and Station configurations.
Say Goldberger, "We've tested the Pyro against the 33 mhz
Turbo and even the famous 'Nitro' 40 mhz board (which never
became commercial production). Pyro significantly outperforms
the Turbo in most measures, and is essentially the equal of
the Nitro. Moreover, the Nitro was only designed for Turbo
machines, leaving the 25 mhz user without an upgrade path."
He continued, "We selected Newer Technology to design and
manufacture the Pyro because of their excellent track record
in the Macintosh market, their outstanding and reliable product
line, and their depth of engineering expertise, particularly
with the Motorola CPU. We are delighted with the product and
documentation they have produced, their warranty program, and
their commitment to the Next marketplace." Research is currently
underway into an accelerator board for Turbo machines.
Test Results
A series of tests have been performed to compare the performance
of the Pyro board to the unmodified 25 mhz Next, the Turbo
and the Nitro. Tests included both standard benchmarks and a
suite of real-world applications. Results are available over
the Internet from the Pyro Web Page:
http://orb.com/Pyro
or by ftp from
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submission/Pyro.test.ps.
Availability and Pricing
Spherical Solutions is the exclusive reseller of the Pyro
board on behalf of Newer Technolgies, Inc.. It is available
directly to end users, and is warranteed for one year by Newer
Technology, Inc. Reseller inquiries are welcome, and should
be addressed to Spherical Solutions.
Introductory pricing for the Pyro 50 mhz Accelerator Board is
$899 for all platforms. Orders are currently being accepted
for delivery beginning May 20, 1995.
For further information and ordering information, please contact:
Samuel M. Goldberger
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
415-381-9556--fax
smg@orb.com--email
Spherical Solutions has been in the business of supplying Next
hardware and software solutions to the Next community since 1991.
***
Pyro 50 mhz Accelerator Board is a trademark of Newer Technology.
All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective owners.
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NS3.2 + 68040 & Kodak Multi-sessionPhotoCD-Rom
Message-ID: <D8H5x9.1vn@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:00:44 GMT
In article <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>,
Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>1-
> Does anyone know if NS3.2, on Motorola, can be used to manipulate
>either single- or multi-session KodakPhotoCDRoms ?
>
I took a friend's brand-spanking-new (full--single-session) PhotoCD, stuck it
in a NeXT CD-ROM drive hooked up to an ND and it, uhhhh, just worked.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Blakc & White Software
References: <1995May10.172237.25666@il.us.swissbank.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:45:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May12.094552.7141@proximus.north.de>
In article <1995May10.172237.25666@il.us.swissbank.com>,
<bill@il.us.swissbank.com > wrote:
>Does anyone have the phone # of B&W the makers of NXFax?
Black & White Software
nxfax@bandw.com
+1-802-496 8500
+1-802-496 5112 (fax)
Bridge Street Marketplace
Waitsfield, VT 05673-1210
USA
Gerhard.
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web Browsers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 May 1995 14:49:46 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3ovsia$n5c@shelob.afs.com>
References: <thompsonD8GDvG.4CI@netcom.com>
Eric Thompson writes
> In comp.sys.next.misc, gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU proclaimed to the
world:
> >What are our options, in addition to OmniWeb.app for browsing the
> >World Wide Web. I recall seeing an announcement for a new product,
> >about 45 days ago (a pre-release announcment)... but have not seen
> >anything since...
>
> SpiderWoman.app
> Netsurfer.app (just released)
>
> Netsurfer is more than just a web browser, check it out. Very cool.
Agreed. Netsurfer has the real goods. Get a copy.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What is /usr/nje/bin/csh?
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950511230802.4367A-100000@lipschitz>
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 23:10:10 -0600
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
What is /usr/nje/bin/csh?
-- kc
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 11 May 1995 19:17:00 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120014.AA26574@alleg.EDU>
Excuse my complete ignorance here, but why does it make sense for
NeXT to shut down new versions of the OS for the original machines
they ran on?
"Oh, you were an original customer of ours and bought our hardware.
We're going to leave you behind now."
TjL, on a campus of many many black NeXTs
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS3.2 + 68040 & Kodak Multi-sessionPhotoCD-Rom
Date: 11 May 1995 18:23:18 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
1-
Does anyone know if NS3.2, on Motorola, can be used to manipulate
either single- or multi-session KodakPhotoCDRoms ?
2-
Any idea where one could get KodakPhotoCDRoms produced out of the
ordinary camera films ? I have tried quite a few of the major Kodak-related
(and otherwise) photo printing outlets without success. None of them seems to
deal with photoCDRom production.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Best Regards,
Ami
ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu
From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What's the deal with ftp.stepwise.com ???
Date: 12 May 1995 18:47:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3p0afl$6eu@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I don't know if the problem is on their end or mine, but I downloaded a
14k README file at a whopping 70 bytes/ second. Slow!!! In addition,
navigating the file server with "cd" can take as many as 55 seconds per
command.
What's up?
Sam
From: rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Question] SCSI bus problem ???
Date: 12 May 1995 18:10:36 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Unix Users Group
Message-ID: <3p08as$d2g@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hello,
I have DPT2022 EISA with Quantum LPS 540, Quantum Empire 1080, and
Toshiba 3401 CDROM (ID number 0,1,2, sequentially) on boot SCSI bus.
Also, I have Adaptec 1542C with Quantum Lighting 730 and WangDAT 3100 on
second SCSI bus.
My question is, after putting the BackSpace (Using Black Module)
for about couple of hours, the SCSI bus *seems* dying, which means I
still can move the mouse, however, it just not doing anything. I can
see the hard driver indicater lighting on and off. I believe the system
is still running, because I still can hear my TimeFlies speak out what
time is it. If I leave the system like this about couple hous later, it
might go well most of time, then I reboot the system and everything goes
fine again.
Hope someone can give me an ideal on how can I solve this problem.
Any suggestions welcome... Thanks!!!
Rueiwun Tu
rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu
P.S. I am running 3.3 now
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: nfs problem with solaris 2.4 and NeXT
Date: 12 May 95 15:57:04 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mp.800294224@maud>
Hi,
I have a problem, when I access from solaris 2.4 to my NeXT (NS 3.1) machine.
The message in NeXT-console is:
svckudp_send: xdr_replymsg failed
nfs_server: bad sendreply from 134.169.36.32 (whole msg several times)
The message in sun console is:
NFS server xxx not responding still trying (several times)
NFS server xxx ok
(The number is is the sun machine.)
The reverse way (from NeXT to sun) works without any problem.
I think I didn't have this problem, before updating to 2.4.
Any idea?
thanks in advance
Martin
--
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Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | Fax: +49 531 / 391-5696
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT station needed urgently
Message-ID: <D8H2y3.D5H@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <1995May11.122150.9104@proximus.north.de>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:56:26 GMT
In article <1995May11.122150.9104@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de
(Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>
> What is "Monitor Saver"?
>
> Wondering, Gerhard.
>
> If it is what I think it is, then I absolutely need it as well.
If it's a screen saver/locker you're looking for, how 'bout
/NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app ? I'm on NS 3.2.
--
Mario Stargard
School of Optometry
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada
N2L 3G1
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What will be the last version of NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware?
Date: 12 May 1995 02:48:20 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oui9k$k9a@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <9505120014.AA26574@alleg.EDU>
luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
> Excuse my complete ignorance here, but why does it make sense
> for NeXT to shut down new versions of the OS for the original
> machines they ran on?
First, we do seem to have a few NeXT contacts who have said there
will definitely be NeXTSTEP 4.0 for black hardware.
Second, at some point it's going to be true that there won't be a
good reason to release "the latest" NeXTSTEP for their old hardware.
New OS releases tend to have more features, and more resource
requirements. Eventually the NeXT hardware will be so old (and
relatively underpowered) that there's no point in working on system
software for it. Not only that, but the number of NeXT machines
is not going to increase over time, and it's very likely going to
decrease. Hardware breaks. Why spend time developing an OS to
run on this slowly shrinking hardware base, instead of spending it
on something that's rapidly expanding and sexier? (such as, say,
the PowerMac line, once that's switched over to PCI bus).
We now have reason to believe that "that point" will not be NeXTSTEP
4.0. It might be NeXTSTEP 5.0 (though the accelerator card option
from Spherical Solutions does increase the viability of NeXT
hardware). It's certainly going to happen sometime, but it looks
like it won't be for a few more years.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with ftp.stepwise.com ???
Message-ID: <D8Ivz5.3t9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3p0afl$6eu@news.acns.nwu.edu> <3p0qo8$74d@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 15:21:05 GMT
In article <3p0qo8$74d@digifix.digifix.com>,
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote:
>Sam Schapmann writes
>
> Thursday some Bell equipment got zapped by lightning, and we were
>getting CRC and overruns on our CSU/DSU like crazy. It appears the repeater
>between our location and our providers location got slightly toasted.
That really was an awfully cool thunderstorm... lots of lightning and
devastatingly loud thunder.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS3.2 + 68040 & Kodak Multi-sessionPhotoCD-Rom
Date: 12 May 95 17:57:41 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May12.175741@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>
In article <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>, Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> writes:
> Does anyone know if NS3.2, on Motorola, can be used to manipulate
> either single- or multi-session KodakPhotoCDRoms ?
I use a Toshiba 3401 plus the XAmode driver and have no problems.
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Is there a reasonable Klondike game?
Date: 12 May 1995 19:29:55 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p0cvj$lf2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Can anyone point me towards a good game of Klondike for NSFIP? I am familiar
with the usual Solitaire one which appears to be unsupported, requires a Cray
to run properly, has something wrong with the dragging routines but is very
pretty. Surely there must be another one. No platform can do without a very
good Solitaire game.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: swapspace surges
References: <9505120404.AA06664@alleg.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 08:40:11 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May13.084011.11068@proximus.north.de>
In article <9505120404.AA06664@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>anyone who can help, guess, or answer, please try.
>
>I am logged on, minding my own business, nothing much going on... I
>have WatchSwap running and it shows 16MB (the low mark).... la la la
>then POW 17.6 MB, then 18.3, then 19.5 (those numbers are not the
>actual numbers, just the approximation).
What is WatchSwap?
>All of a sudden, I have this great jump, and then it dies down. How
>can I find out which app or process is the cause?
In a shell: ps -aux
You could also inspect the applications with
/NextDeveolper/Apps/ProcessMonitor.app
Hope it helps,
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Free Fonts
References: <9505120431.AA07725@alleg.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 09:00:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May13.090002.11224@proximus.north.de>
In article <9505120431.AA07725@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>where can I find any free fonts for the NeXT (black)?
check out
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/fonts/
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Fonts/
Or, even better, the peanuts Archive CD. (Contact Christian Baur for more
information about the CD. cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de)
>are they difficult to install?
No, not at all. You have to put the *.font directories in
/LocalLibrary/Fonts or
~/Library/Fonts
Now you just start an App (quit and restart Edit) and open a font panel. It
takes a while and you should see the new fonts. If not, you have to start
buildafmdir and cacheAFMData by hand, read the man pages, the NeXT Answers
and the FAQs for more info.
>thanks
You are welcome.
Gerhard.
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From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 13 May 95 16:11:10
Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of
Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In-reply-to: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 9 May 1995 20:03:14 -0400
In article <blah>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> For modelling we have either intuitiv3d, which has a really nice interface or
> solidThinking which is more powerful, but at the price of ease of use.
> Unfortunatly, as far as I know there is no useful animation tool (3d that is,
> Animo rules for 2d) on NS--nothing like 3dstudio on dos. It sucks, this
> platform could rule, and 3d accident reconstruction business is a lucrative
> niche that could greatly benefit from NS, but noone seems to want to put out
> such a product on NS.
> It's too bad.
> I have a friend really into this stuff who has a couple of NeXT machines (one
> is a ND), he writes for 3dArtist and wanted to use his NeXT's...but the tools
> just are not there. A modeler is just half of the puzzle, NS needs a good
> animation package-ala 3dstudio
I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
porting news? SGI/Sun?)
Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
in no time at all.
Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
--
Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu Hard Drive
Message-ID: <D8JA3u.198@fritz.snafu.de>
Organization: dasburo Berlin
References: <3obm2j$r70@paladin.american.edu> <3oc22h$1d72@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:26:17 GMT
In <3oc22h$1d72@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) writes:
>In article <3obm2j$r70@paladin.american.edu>
>tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) writes:
> I did. You need to change the "Synchronous Mode Transfer
>Request", which is SW6 on my M2694ESA (IMPORTANT: check on yours) from the
>*default* "ON == Enabled from TARG" to "OFF == Disabled from TARG". I
>have absolutely no idea what this does, I will not be held liable for
>damages,
That's right : Synchronous transfers (= fast SCSI) are not supported on black
hardware. Leaving sync. transfers enabled on a Fujitsu boot drive can
result in the effects the original poster described.
--
--------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
--------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What's the deal with ftp.stepwise.com ???
Date: 12 May 1995 19:24:56 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p0qo8$74d@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3p0afl$6eu@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sam Schapmann writes
>
> I don't know if the problem is on their end or mine, but I downloaded a
> 14k README file at a whopping 70 bytes/ second. Slow!!! In addition,
> navigating the file server with "cd" can take as many as 55 seconds per
> command.
>
> What's up?
>
> Sam
Thursday some Bell equipment got zapped by lightning, and we were
getting CRC and overruns on our CSU/DSU like crazy. It appears the repeater
between our location and our providers location got slightly toasted.
However... its fixed now, and is running fine.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: problems getting login screen to work
Date: 14 May 1995 05:06:08 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3p4340$7c1@pith.uoregon.edu>
I just reinstalled NeXTStep FIP on my P90 after a six month hiatus from God's
operating system and am discouraged to find that the login screen no longer comes
up. For some reason, it always logs on as "me" and will not allow me to
logon during startup. This is causing problems, as I can't logon as root and
set up various utilities that I need. Does anyone know why this would happen
and how to fix it? The last time I installed, it asked me to logon every time
I started up NeXTSTEP.
Any help would be appreciated.
Nick Fogelson
From: michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: email from Mac to Next
Date: 14 May 1995 14:52:04 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <maru-1305950724180001@ppp0_074.bekkoame.or.jp>
I am very interested in information about this as well...I am unsure
as to what MIME capability will provide but what I want is to be able
to *some* extent be able to mail between my NEXTSTEP - Windows - and
Mac boxes with moderate "attatchment" capabilities....
What software on those other platforms is available to do so, if any?
Thanks for patience with a dumb question.
michael@hesta.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster 16 on Intel
In-Reply-To: bill@otherwise.com's message of Fri, 12 May 1995 21:39:53 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May14121025@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3p0h2s$ont@giga.bga.com>
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 16:10:25 GMT
Get the latest SoundBlaster 16 driver from NeXTanswers (ftp.next.com)
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: philips@netrd.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: need WACOM 12x12 Pad Driver ..
Date: 13 May 1995 10:21:58 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Message-ID: <3p2186$c1k@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Hi
I am a WACOM 12x12 Pad user.Can I use my WACOM Pad in
NextStep 3.2 (Intel 486DX2-66)? Where can I found the driver?
I will appreciate that for your any help.
Have a nice day.
e-mail: ccku@iiidns.iii.org.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT station needed urgently
References: <1995May11.122150.9104@proximus.north.de> <D8H2y3.D5H@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 09:18:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May14.091816.3128@proximus.north.de>
In article <D8H2y3.D5H@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>,
Mario Stargard <mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
[...]
> If it's a screen saver/locker you're looking for, how 'bout
>/NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app ? I'm on NS 3.2.
But even better would be some hardware that TURNS the monitor OFF.
G.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next )
Message-ID: <1995May15.210728.22924@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 21:07:28 GMT
In article <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com> michael@mvhome (Michael
Verruto) writes:
> Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> wrote:
> >There are various MIME compliant mail readers for both these
> platforms.
> >If you can use Mail.app from 3.3, then this is the way to go.
>
> Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
> of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
> of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
> transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
> software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
> what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
I have heard of, but haven't used:
Mail-It!, from FTP Software, for Windows.
And I understand that at least one of the SMTP gateways (Mail*Link?) for
QuickMail supports MIME.
I expect that there may be some free ware solutions as well.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 16 May 1995 00:17:35 GMT
Organization: Network Intensive
Message-ID: <3p8quv$pkl@ni1.ni.net>
References: <3p8ep3$a00@phakt.usc.edu>
reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) wrote:
>>root@terra (Operator)< wrote:
>Yes, on both counts. First create a simple text file the following
>content:
> #!/bin/sh
> {
> if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi
> cat -
> if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat
>${HOME}/.signature;
> fi
> }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@"
>A good name for this file would be "sendmail-addheader".
>BUT, is it possible to have this file also tell if your sending
either a NeXT, a MIME, or a plain text message and pick a specific
(and appropriate) signature file for each type of mail?
>--
>"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
This is not possible with the above script. However, if you set up
the .sig file formatting correctly for a plain text file it should
look the same with NeXTMail and MIME. This is how my system is setup.
Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill
far@ni.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
Agoura Hills, CA # to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
(NeXTmail prefered) # --Nicolo, Machiavelli
(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: clloyd@sierra.net (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FAQ's in html?
Date: 16 May 1995 00:28:09 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p8rip$je7@jobes.sierra.net>
Are there FAQ's for NeXT and/or ObjC in html? Where can I find 'em?
Charles.
---
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GiantLeap Software PO BOX 8734
(702) 831-4630 Incline Village, NV 89452
From: chris@roupie.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for NSI reconized boards
Date: 16 May 1995 06:29:35 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p9gof$49j@taloa.unice.fr>
Keywords: Intel, video, sound, IEEE
I'me looking for buying aqusition boards for an Intel NS computer.
I need informations about 3 kinds of boards that I'll can use with NeXT
STEP drivers. References, technical and commercial information are
welcomed, about :
- video life board to aquire images by grabing them, or (better) to aquire
video sequence.
- sound board (other than sound blaster, GXPRo Intel)
- IEEE board or IEEE <- SCSI interface to drive experimental devices.
thanks in advance
T.C.
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! e-mail : chris@doublon.unice.fr !
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Colleges using NEXTSTEP?
Date: 15 May 1995 01:11:32 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p69o4$lvj@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3op6uk$m7j$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
David McElroy <75450.3334@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> I'm trying to find a college program in software engineering (or
> something similar) which uses NEXTSTEP or very NeXT-like concepts.
> Any suggestions?
There was a recent article to comp.sys.next.announce which suggests
that Mesa Community College (in Mesa Arizona) has some program that
uses NeXTSTEP. Some other colleges used to have lots of NeXT's
available, but I don't know if they still do.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rosehnal@medinf.mu-luebeck.de (Hans Rosehnal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: help for a keyboard driver
Date: 16 May 1995 15:04:18 +0200
Organization: Medizinische Universitaet zu Luebeck
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pa7si$56s@gwsun.medinf.mu-luebeck.de>
Is there anyone who can help me.
I'm searching for my Intel NS a Microsoft Naturale Keyboard driver.
Any help is appreciated.
Hans
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
From: Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Message-ID: <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 12:50:44 GMT
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu>
Organization: University College London
> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
>
> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
>
> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
> in no time at all.
>
> Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
> Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
> Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
> NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
> Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
> Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
> NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
>
Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
Elric
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS3.2 + 68040 & Kodak Multi-sessionPhotoCD-Rom
Date: 15 May 1995 22:32:25 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p8kpp$l6j@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu>
Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> writes:
> 1-
> Does anyone know if NS3.2, on Motorola, can be used to
> manipulate either single- or multi-session KodakPhotoCDRoms ?
With the drivers that come as part of NeXTSTEP, it's easy to handle
single-session PhotoCD's. If you have multi-session CD's, they won't
work with the drivers from NeXT. There is a third-party source for
drivers that would work with multi-session CD's (*if* your CD-ROM
supports them, too), but I don't have the contact information
available right now.
> 2-
> Any idea where one could get KodakPhotoCDRoms produced out
> of the ordinary camera films ? I have tried quite a few of the
> major Kodak-related (and otherwise) photo printing outlets
> without success. None of them seems to deal with photoCDRom
> production.
Depends what you mean by "ordinary" cameras. There should be
plenty of places which will do 35mm film to PhotoCD. If you
have some other kind of film (110?), then it will probably be
a lot harder to find anyone that will do it.
There are also mail-order places that handle 35mm to PhotoCD.
I think you could find them listed in the back of Mac magazines,
and probably in the ads of PC magazines.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bm10009@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 16 May 1995 13:05:03 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <3pa7tv$9k9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points, and
picas.... which seems pretty limited.
Suggestions anyone?
Ben.
From: mgabrys@aol.com (MGabrys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTtime
Date: 16 May 1995 03:53:10 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3p9ll6$6pr@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
is anyone actually BUYING THIS PRODUCT?
I've got both, A NeXTstation and a Quadra, and I've been hanging on to the
NeXT because I can still find uses for a unix box that can be configured
for a net site-but I'm scratching my head over NeXT's handling over it's
quicktime clone. OK a quicktime player. great. Gee the one on my mac is
FREE! (actually I have several flavors) so again I'm supposed to fork over
100 dollars for NeXTs version? oh yeah-they really got the market pegged
once again.
HELLO STEVE GET A CLUE!
Quicktime is a standard. If you want to play them fine, but until you can
compete with AVID or any other DV provider, don't expect users to pay for
a freebie in the realworld.
just a little tip.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 16 May 1995 15:06:00 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3pa7tv$9k9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Ben Moseley writes
> Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
> measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
>
> Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points, and
> picas.... which seems pretty limited.
Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested in our
word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes' reflection, I
can't even think of any other standards.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Date: 16 May 1995 18:30:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3paqva$2e5@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
chris@aptime.fdn.org wrote:
/ I'd like to know if there is any rule-based Artificial
/ Intelligence Software that can be bundled in an application. Modification
/ of rules without recompilation should be possible.
There is a library for neural networks. Have a look at the WWW page at
http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/nLib.html
What is nLib?
nLib is about 100K of raw Ojective-C code that could be Neural
Networks Object Library.
What does this library give(or should give)?
1. Facile rapid creation of code to explore various network topologies
and training strategies.
2. Uniform look on different network topologies as well as on what is
neuron in neural network and what is network itself.
3. Reusability of code and other stuff that was promised by OOP. I hope
this library is better then Ralph Zazula public domain
NeuralNetworks.tar.Z as far as OOP concerns.
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: tHe daNCeR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web Browsers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 16 May 1995 15:21:28 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pafto$rba@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <3om05r$a17@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
In article <3om05r$a17@cnn.Princeton.EDU> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU
(Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
: - >What are our options, in addition to OmniWeb.app for browsing the
: - >World Wide Web. I recall seeing an announcement for a new product,
: - >about 45 days ago (a pre-release announcment)... but have not seen
: - >anything since...
: - >
Phil:
I know that there exists: 1. OmniWeb
2. NetSurfer..just came out I believe
3. World Wide Web.app....no graphics...
that is what i know of for web browsers..
Ricardo
--
Ricardo Cortes
Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Free Fonts
Date: 16 May 1995 16:44:44 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3pakps$mln@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <9505120431.AA07725@alleg.EDU>
In article <9505120431.AA07725@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma) writes:
> where can I find any free fonts for the NeXT (black)?
>
> are they difficult to install?
>
> thanks
>
> TjL
> --
> Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
> NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
> Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
> [ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
The various NeXT-friendly FTP sites (orst, muenchen, etc.) are a good
source. Although not free, the Fatted Calf CD-ROM from Ensuing
Technologies has 350 fonts (along with a bunch of other cool stuff) and is
pretty cheap ($35 includes U.S. domestic mail shipping).
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
From: boards@nosc.mil (Stephen Board)
Subject: Custom Login Panel Development
Message-ID: <1995May16.181059.23784@nosc.mil>
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 18:10:59 GMT
Hello World,
Can anyone provide information on creating custom login
panels in NS 3.3? I see that the files have a .ui
extension but I cannot find info on creating them.
Any pointers?
Thanks
Stephen Board
boards@nosc.mil
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 16 May 1995 20:19:18 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May16.191427.26820@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3p8ep3$a00@phakt.usc.edu>
In article <3p8ep3$a00@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew
Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
> BUT, is it possible to have this file also tell if your sending either a
NeXT, a MIME, or a plain text message and pick a specific (and
appropriate) signature file for each type of mail?
A far, far better thing to do is to use the signature adding program from
Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities, which can add ascii, rtf or rtfd
signatures as appropriate to the email being sent.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
Subject: Attn NeXT users near Ottawa, Canada!
Message-ID: <D8or4M.K6t@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 19:21:58 GMT
I have an upcoming presentation to do in Ottawa, Canada. If anyone in
the area could make a NeXTSTEP workstation available for a day (this
Wednesday or Thursday), I'd pay for the service.
Please email: Matthew Stecker <matthew@marble.com>
or call me at: (617) 487-0050
Thanks!
Matthew Stecker
Marble Associates, Inc.
--
Geoffrey S. Knauth <gsk@marble.com> http://www.marble.com/people/gsk.html
Marble Associates, Inc., (617) 487-0050 CRASH-B Sprints, Cambridge Boat Club
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web Browsers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 16 May 1995 19:31:24 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pauic$qub@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <3ovsia$n5c@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3ovsia$n5c@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> Eric Thompson writes
> > In comp.sys.next.misc, gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU proclaimed to
the
> world:
> > >What are our options, in addition to OmniWeb.app for browsing the
> > >World Wide Web. I recall seeing an announcement for a new product,
> > >about 45 days ago (a pre-release announcment)... but have not seen
> > >anything since...
> >
> > SpiderWoman.app
> > Netsurfer.app (just released)
> >
> > Netsurfer is more than just a web browser, check it out. Very cool.
>
> Agreed. Netsurfer has the real goods. Get a copy.
>
Personally, I prefer OmniWeb. However, a slightly different
way to put that question is: Are there any free Browsers?
OmniWeb and Netsurfer are out on that count, even if they
permit free single-user use. I don't know about others, except:
The original NeXT browser from CERN, with which the World Wide
Web was originally developed, is still out there somewhere,
with source code. It is also still the only browser that is
an HTML editor as well (to my knowledge). I wish someone would
take it out, blow off the dust and bring it up to date ...
A good place to start is:
http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/NextStep/Status.html
Let us never forget: The World Wide Web was started on NeXTs.
--
Andreas Windemuth
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From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Metronome & Beat
Date: 17 May 1995 05:29:35 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3pc1jv$b34@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3pa9be$896@news.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <3pa9be$896@news.tuwien.ac.at> e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl) writes:
>Hi, is there any shareware which acts as a metronome and or can do any
>background beats like the electronic keyboards can?
>
>Otto
>
Rhythm_King by Peter Langston from 1992. Was originallly
marketted by MIDIapolis (612) 822-1604 midiapolis@cup.portal.com.
This info is old - maybe someone else out there can update it.
Charlie Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
PS RK is a real-time drum machine program for black hardware (DSP).
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 17 May 1995 05:33:28 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3pa7tv$9k9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com writes:
>Ben Moseley writes
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
>> measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
>>
>> Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points, and
>> picas.... which seems pretty limited.
>
>Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
>
>Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested in our
>word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes' reflection, I
>can't even think of any other standards.
>
How about Ciceros for our French NextSteppers. ;-)
Bonjour
Charles Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 16 May 1995 13:55:52 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Message-ID: <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
>it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
>I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
>very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
>
>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
>
>
>Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
>Elric
I'm only aware of one application that can do animation.
As far as modelers go there were a few good ones out there that implement the
Renderman Interface.
There was nPoint with FrontFace before NEXTSTEP came bundled with Pixar's
Renderman. nPoint sadly went out of business.
Intuitiv's intuitiv'3D has the most incredible interface I have ever seen.
I'm hoping that upgrades are forthcoming (PLEEZ!). It was very disappointing
that it didn't write RIBs.
There is Stone Design's recently announced 3D Reality 2.0.
For animation, there is Gestel Italia's solidThinking Modeler/Animator 2.1
which does standard keyframe animation. Last time I talked to them
(around Dec) they were planning on adding Inverse Kinematics, particle
systems, freeform deformations etc. I'm extremely fond of solidThinking.
There were talks of adding support for Larry Gritz's BMRT renderer (though
I believe this might be bundled with 3D Reality 2.0 too). I'm awaiting a
fix in the sweep tool.
Hopefully, we'll be seeing a richer feature sets in these applications to
approach those of programs like Lightwave3D, Real3D, Alias PowerAnimator :)
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From: toni@usenix.org (Toni Veglia)
Subject: USENIX Electronic Commerce Tutorials
Message-ID: <D8p848.M6L@usenix.org>
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Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 01:28:56 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Message-ID: <1995May17.032745.22061@media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk> <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 03:27:45 GMT
In article <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes:
>>In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
>>Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
>>>it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
>>>I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
>>>very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
>>>
>>>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>>>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>>>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>>>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
>>>
>>>
>>>Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
>>>Elric
>>
<stuff deleted>
>>
>>For animation, there is Gestel Italia's solidThinking Modeler/Animator 2.1
>>which does standard keyframe animation. Last time I talked to them
>>(around Dec) they were planning on adding Inverse Kinematics, particle
>>systems, freeform deformations etc. I'm extremely fond of solidThinking.
>>There were talks of adding support for Larry Gritz's BMRT renderer (though
>>I believe this might be bundled with 3D Reality 2.0 too). I'm awaiting a
>>fix in the sweep tool.
>>
Well, if you're a programmer, you might want to take a look at WavesWorld,
which can do all sorts of animation. The latest version is 2.3, which
In the next (very minor) release (out in a day or two), it will be a lot
easier to do stuff; I realized with a simple additional command, I could
make it much easier to do the kind of stuff most people want to use this
stuff for (as opposed to what I built it for...). You can get the latest
release via my home page (see below).
btw, it's trivial to integrate solidThinking with WavesWorld; most of
my most interesting stuff has been done by modeling in either solidThinking
or Alias PowerAnimator, exporting RIB, and bringing it into WavesWorld
and animating it.
I also have a lot of support built in for Larry's awesome BMRT stuff.
Also, you get all the source code for my stuff, and since it's built
as a set of IB palettes, it's trivial to integrate my stuff into your
own custom apps.
please to enjoy. :-)
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NS3.2 + 68040 & Kodak Multi-sessionPhotoCD-Rom
Message-ID: <D8p0H7.D6q@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3otkmm$6d9@news.nd.edu> <3p8kpp$l6j@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 22:43:54 GMT
In article <3p8kpp$l6j@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> writes:
>> 1-
>> Does anyone know if NS3.2, on Motorola, can be used to
>> manipulate either single- or multi-session KodakPhotoCDRoms ?
>
>With the drivers that come as part of NeXTSTEP, it's easy to handle
>single-session PhotoCD's. If you have multi-session CD's, they won't
>work with the drivers from NeXT. There is a third-party source for
>drivers that would work with multi-session CD's (*if* your CD-ROM
>supports them, too), but I don't have the contact information
>available right now.
>
Do any drivers for black support multi-session disks?
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Shaun Foy (sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 17 May 1995 06:48:44 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3pc68c$d14@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <1995May16.191427.26820@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1995May16.191427.26820@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch
<Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> writes:
> In article <3p8ep3$a00@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew
> Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
> > BUT, is it possible to have this file also tell if your sending
either a
> NeXT, a MIME, or a plain text message and pick a specific (and
> appropriate) signature file for each type of mail?
>
> A far, far better thing to do is to use the signature adding program
from
> Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities, which can add ascii, rtf or rtfd
> signatures as appropriate to the email being sent.
I have tried mailapp-utilities. It works fine. I suggest a better program
- Mail Helper. I really like this program. It is very easy to set up and
use. It allows you to add ascii .sigs, rtf .sigs or rtfd .sigs. As well,
it provides a nice little option for adding '>' to your replies -
something that mailapp-utilities doesn't. As with most any apps :) you can
find it at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Good luck :)
Shaun.
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 17 May 1995 14:44:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pd249$846@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In article <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) writes:
> In article <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com writes:
> >Ben Moseley writes
> >> Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
> >> measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
> >>
> >> Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points,
and
> >> picas.... which seems pretty limited.
> >
> >Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
> >
> >Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested in our
> >word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes' reflection, I
> >can't even think of any other standards.
> >
>
> How about Ciceros for our French NextSteppers. ;-)
>
Or fathoms for the "SCUBA divers do it deeper" crowd :-)
Or furlongs for our horse-racing friends (hi, Neil G. :-)
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: smertz@quest.fdn.org (Stephan Mertz)
Subject: Convert afm fonts from dos
Message-ID: <1995May17.081734.2011@quest.fdn.org>
Sender: news@quest.fdn.org
Organization: Quest International / Unilever - Neuilly, France
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 08:17:34 GMT
Hi,
I'd like to convert afm fonts from Corel Draw CD to NeXT afm format.
I tried pcATMfont2Next with no success.
Does someone have experience with that?
Thanks.
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next )
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 16:03:24 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1505951603240001@cheshire.ph.utexas.edu>
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
In article <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>, michael@mvhome (Michael
Verruto) wrote:
>
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
In a word, "Eudora" (for the Mac. A Windows version exists, but I have no
experience with it.).
Either the freeware <ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/mac/eudora/> or
commercial version is worth getting.
Jacques Distler
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Colleges using NEXTSTEP?
Date: 17 May 1995 14:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Computation Center
Message-ID: <3pd1t2$q7f@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3op6uk$m7j$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <3p69o4$lvj@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
David McElroy <75450.3334@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> I'm trying to find a college program in software engineering (or
> something similar) which uses NEXTSTEP or very NeXT-like concepts.
> Any suggestions?
You should see if you can get any copies of NeXT on Campus, a free
publication that hasn't been around in a couple of years. Maybe
somebody at NeXT would know how to find some??
I have several copies at home. If you can't find any, email me and
I can probably send you some info.
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: michaelm@nbn.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: user manuals
Date: 17 May 1995 16:10:13 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <3pd755$c7u@miwok.nbn.com>
I am looking for manuals on a laser 386sxslc manufactured by americam megatrends in 1990.Any
info greatly appreciated as the manuf.does not have any more avail. thenks
From: athan@sait136.morgan.com (Andrew C Athan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Date: 17 May 1995 17:05:16 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <ATHAN.95May17130516@sait136.morgan.com>
References: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
In-reply-to: chris@aptime.fdn.org's message of Tue, 16 May 1995 14:40:23 GMT
You should look at CLIPS, I don't know exactly where you can download it
from, however, so you'll have to look around. CLIPS is a rule based
inference engine accessible through C calls. It is very flexible and quite
powerful.
aca
athan@morgan.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next )
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:05:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May17.090531.11365@proximus.north.de>
In article <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>,
Michael Verruto <michael@mvhome> wrote:
[...]
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
"Eudora" for the Mac. But it does not work too well. There's nothing like
NeXTmail.app. (Though I do not know Eloquent.) ;-)
Gerhard.
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From: nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The continuing saga of the sick NeXT...
Followup-To: poster
Date: 17 May 1995 17:54:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3pdd9e$5bm@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3p86fc$9bk@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: The Saga of the Sick NeXT CONTINUES!
Background: My nice classic 68040 Slab is struggling for life!
Thanks to everyone's help on the subject, (I recieved lots of
useful stuff, and a nice kind person who sent me an electronic copy of
the portion of the FM I wanted to RT). HOwever, there was something I
missed during the boot process: It was failing the memory check. SO
now it is time to pull the memory and hope that it is just a 1mb SIMM
that has failed.
SO I open the case (A dream to open, really. I didn't even
bother looking for my screwdriver, I just removed the single screw
with my thumb, lift open, and look inside. I wish other computer
makers would take a lesson here on how to build a GOOD case!). And
now I am presented with two problems:
1) They don't label the motherboard, so although the memory check
says that it is SIMM #1 (Count from 0), I don't know which side to
count from. Any ideas?
2) I now remember how hard it was to remove those SIMMs when
upgrading memory. They are the slots where the simm enters and stays
vertically. How can I get the SIMMs out? I want to see if it is the
SIMMS or the motherboard, and which kind it is (1 mb, or 4mb).
Also, does it care which banks of SIMMS are filled?
--
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It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing
Fun with anagrams: computer science > coerce inept scum.
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 17 May 1995 16:22:43 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pd7sj$1o5@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
}~ Ben Moseley writes
}~ > Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
}~ > measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
}~ >
}~ > Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points,
}~ > and picas.... which seems pretty limited.
Sure - subclass the appropriate layout objects and add to the popup.
}~ Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
}~
}~ Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested in
}~ our word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes'
}~ reflection, I can't even think of any other standards.
Greg,
The only one I can think of that's missing is twips, since that's
the RichText native measurement - but since NeXT RichText must be
in even multiples of two... it wouldn't seem to be a problem since
it's easy to set in tenths of a point.
Bruce
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Metronome & Beat
Date: 16 May 1995 13:29:18 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3pa9be$896@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi, is there any shareware which acts as a metronome and or can do any
background beats like the electronic keyboards can?
Otto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: blair@instep.bc.ca
Subject: NEXTSTEP support in Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May17.224101.19123@instep.bc.ca>
Sender: usenet@instep.bc.ca (usenet)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 22:41:01 GMT
Hi, does anyone know of any local NEXTSTEP support in Singapore. Thanks in
advance.
Blair Shellenberg <blair@instep.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next
Message-ID: <1995May16.151140.1196@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 16 May 95 15:11:40 WET
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto) wrote:
>Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> wrote:
>>In article <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> michael@mvhome (Michael
>>Verruto) writes:
>>> I am very interested in information about this as well...I am
>unsure
>>> as to what MIME capability will provide but what I want is to be
>able
>>> to *some* extent be able to mail between my NEXTSTEP - Windows -
>and
>>> Mac boxes with moderate "attatchment" capabilities....
>>>
>>> What software on those other platforms is available to do so, if
>any?
>>There are various MIME compliant mail readers for both these
>platforms.
>>If you can use Mail.app from 3.3, then this is the way to go.
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
>Thanks for the help so far! ;>
Get Eudora which is *easily* available for both Macintosh & Windows
from an ftp site near you...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: chris@aptime.fdn.org
Subject: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Message-ID: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
Keywords: AI artificial intelligence
Sender: usenet@aptime.fdn.org (News Operator)
Organization: C3iS - APTIME // Paris, France
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 14:40:23 GMT
Hi all,
I'd like to know if there is any rule-based Artificial
Intelligence Software that can be bundled in an application. Modification
of rules without recompilation should be possible.
--
Christophe Dore (chris@aptime.fdn.org NEXTMAIL OK)
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 18 May 95 17:32:28 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May18.173228@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3pa7tv$9k9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com> <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In article <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu>, scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes:
>>Ben Moseley writes
>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units of
>>> measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
>>> Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points, and
>>> picas.... which seems pretty limited.
>>Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
I agree completely. Millimeters, would not be that unlogic ??????
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: echelon@ix.netcom.com (Gary Flint)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Could NeXTStep run on a Cray?
Date: 19 May 1995 01:25:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pgs1k$ii@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
That is the question.
How could I get NeXT's OS to work on a Cray.
The Cray uses AT&T's UNIX (called UniCos).
No GUI though. I want one for this machine, and the NeXT is the
slickest.
Suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca (Eric Wespestad)
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1995May17.233501.5867@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3pd249$846@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Wed, 17 May 95 23:35:01 GMT
Ben Moseley wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units
> of measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
>
> Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches,
> points, and picas.... which seems pretty limited.
Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) then wrote:
> Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs?
> Kalpas?
>
> Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested
> in our word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes'
> reflection, I can't even think of any other standards.
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu (Charles Dvorak) then wrote:
> How about Ciceros for our French NextSteppers. ;-)
> Bonjour
art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) then wrote:
> Or fathoms for the "SCUBA divers do it deeper" crowd :-)
> Or furlongs for our horse-racing friends (hi, Neil G. :-)
I think there is a more general issue here. Should NEXTSTEP allow such
objects as Rulers and Text (what else?) to be extended and then replaced
by preference at a user and/or system level?
If an ISV had "better" versions in their word processor and page layout
applications, and you have purchased them - why shouldn't you be able to
take advantage of these objects in other applications (Mail, Edit,
custom applications...) as well? Developers of applications could deny
such an option (presumably because they are providing their own non
default object).
It seems to me that NeXT could (usual market forces would of course
drive this) redesign certain NEXTSTEP components to allow this - and
provide the necessary class headers and supporting protocols as part of
the developer kits.
--- Eric Wespestad <Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca> 403-268-6558
Object Systems Group, consultant to PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 17 May 1995 22:07:33 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pds36$l6@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3pc68c$d14@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Shaun Foy (sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca) writes:
> I have tried mailapp-utilities. It works fine. I suggest a better
> program - Mail Helper. I really like this program. It is very
> easy to set up and use. It allows you to add ascii .sigs, rtf
> .sigs or rtfd .sigs. As well, it provides a nice little option
> for adding '>' to your replies - something that mailapp-utilities
> doesn't. As with most any apps :) you can find it at
> ftp.cs.orst.edu
People might also want to look at TickleServices. It can do
the above, and also comes with a lot of other useful little
services. It also makes it possible for someone to write
up their own, new, services by writing a little TCL code.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tcsh 6.06
Date: 18 May 1995 22:42:57 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505190340.AA28289@alleg.EDU>
if and when someone compiles tcsh 6.06 for NeXT m68k, I'd appreciate
it if they could email the binary and/or instructions to compile to
me at:
luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
I've tried it once or twice and have had no luck and don't have the
time to figure it out right now (two days til graduation!!).
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: this email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 18 May 1995 19:48:06 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pg89m$6so@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3pd7sj$1o5@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes
> The only one I can think of that's missing is twips, since that's
> the RichText native measurement - but since NeXT RichText must be
> in even multiples of two... it wouldn't seem to be a problem since
> it's easy to set in tenths of a point.
It's not that Rich Text is multiples of two, it's that _font_sizes_ can
only be specified to the nearest half-point in RTF. A twip is 1/20 of a
point, which makes it a natural subdivision of points (".05" increments).
By the same token, millimeters (as someone else suggested in a later
post) is just a ".10" subdivision of metric/cm. When you scale up to a
high enough zoom factor, the rulers start showing millimeter divisions.
As to extending the units paradigm for other types and applications,
keep this in mind: Ultimately, everything in PostScript is specified as
single-precision floating-point values in points (72 per inch). All other
variations are just translations for UI convenience.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: "M.T. Carrasco Benitez" <m.carrasco-benitez@mhsg.cec.be>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Contrasct with Web clients
Date: 19 May 1995 13:12:41 GMT
Message-ID: <3pi5g9$p8p@caladan.restena.lu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would like to increase the contrast for the anchors in
SpiderWoman and OmniWeb in a monocrom cube.
Regards
Tomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: system setup, will it work?
In-Reply-To: "Quinonez, Gerardo"'s message of Thu, 18 May 95 11:12:00 PDT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May19220000@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <2FBB8E4F@deans.medsch.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 02:00:00 GMT
You may experience problems with the PAS sound card. Many people opt for the
SoundBlaster 16 instead. I don't think NS supports non-PostScript printers so you'll need to upgrade your HP 4L to a HP 4M. Other than that, it should work fine. Of course, more memory wouldn't hurt.
Robert La Ferla
NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
HTI
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 19 May 1995 17:40:57 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3pil79$i45@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3pc68c$d14@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <3pc68c$d14@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Shaun Foy (sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca) writes:
:In article <1995May16.191427.26820@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch
:<Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> writes:
: > In article <3p8ep3$a00@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew
: > Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
: > > BUT, is it possible to have this file also tell if your sending
:either a
: > NeXT, a MIME, or a plain text message and pick a specific (and
: > appropriate) signature file for each type of mail?
: >
: > A far, far better thing to do is to use the signature adding program
:from
: > Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities, which can add ascii, rtf or rtfd
: > signatures as appropriate to the email being sent.
:
:I have tried mailapp-utilities. It works fine. I suggest a better program
:- Mail Helper. I really like this program. It is very easy to set up and
:use. It allows you to add ascii .sigs, rtf .sigs or rtfd .sigs. As well,
:it provides a nice little option for adding '>' to your replies -
:something that mailapp-utilities doesn't. As with most any apps :) you can
:find it at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Another option is TickleServices... This app allows you to do so much more
than either MailHelper or mailapp-utilities. You can actually generate TCL
based services of your own design.
/*
* For example, I have created a set of services that allow me to format
* comments in C code. I simply select a section of text, press COMMAND-*,
* and "tahdah" the code is commented. (This text should be commented using
* my service...)
*/
The nicest thing about this is that I can adjust a comment (in Edit.app)
which screws up the format (i.e., a line wraps to the next line, which causes
me to re-format the entire comment). I can just select the entire comment,
and press COMMAND-* -- and "tahdah", it is re-formatted and commented again.
It doesn't take too much to create a 'tcl' script, and TickleServices is well
documented (complete man pages for 'tcl' are available from the on-line
help), and very straightforward. I think you can get the latest version from
cs.orst.edu (among other NEXTSTEP FTP sites).
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software
701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy
Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: Mail 3.3 + signature ???
Date: 19 May 1995 17:42:16 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3pil9o$4o4@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3pil79$i45@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <3pil79$i45@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
writes:
:Another option is TickleServices... This app allows you to do so much more
:than either MailHelper or mailapp-utilities. You can actually generate TCL
:based services of your own design.
:
:/*
: * For example, I have created a set of services that allow me to format
: * comments in C code. I simply select a section of text, press COMMAND-*,
: * and "tahdah" the code is commented. (This text should be commented using
: * my service...)
: */
If anyone wants this TickleService -- e-mail me, I'll gladly send it to you.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software
701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy
Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Intel box PCI-SCSI card recommendations?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD8uH6z.Is7@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 21:32:59 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Hi,
Can anyone recommend a PCI-SCSI controller that they are using in their
Intel machine? I'm looking for a card with the following properties:
1) It's NS driver is on the 3.3 CDROM.
2) the driver is *ROCK-SOLID* and fast. This is for a mission ciritical
app.
3) The card supports SCSI-2 and fast-SCSI and/or wide (16 bit) SCSI.
4) The driver supports SCSI-2 and fast-SCSI and/or wide (16 bit) SCSI
Are there any cards out there that fit this bill?
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu>
From: "Quinonez, Gerardo" <GQUINONEZ@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu>
Subject: system setup, will it work?
Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:12:00 PDT
Message-ID: <2FBB8E4F@deans.medsch.ucla.edu>
Encoding: 29 TEXT
Hello, I am strongly considering running NeXTSTEP on my PC. I am wondering
if anyone out there can tell me if there are any complications/conflicts
with software/hardware etc. that can arise from my system setup. And if
there is, can you please make suggestions to make NS run as flawlessly as
possible. My system includes the following hardware:
P-90MHz PCI
Micropolis 4110 1GB SCSI HD
16MB of RAM
Toshiba 4x SCSI CD XM-3501
Media Vision Proaudio Spectrum Family sound card
NCR SDMS V.3.0 PCI SCSI Bios
MAG innovision 17" DX17F 0.26 dot pitch monitor
Microsoft mouse
HP Laserjet 4L printer
Generic fax\modem 14.4 that is Hayes compatible
Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM PCI graphics card.
My machine was not purchased from one of these huge vendors like Gateway etc.
but my machine runs almost flawlessly in Windows, surprisingly. I had other
machines before that were horrible. I am happy with my machine, however
I am very interested in running NS. If anyone can please let me know if I
will get headaches trying to setup NS on my system, and if there is anything
else I will need. Are the correct drivers available for my system?
Any reply will be greatly appretiated. Thanks in advance.
email: gquinonez@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu
Gerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Intel box PCI-SCSI card recommendations?
In-Reply-To: jpanico@netcom.com's message of Fri, 19 May 1995 21:32:59 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May19215329@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <jpanicoD8uH6z.Is7@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:53:29 GMT
Adaptec 2940W.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
HTI
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: 2.88 Meg floppies
In-Reply-To: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu's message of 19 May 1995 12:17:17 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May19215632@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3pi28d$io3@newstand.syr.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:56:32 GMT
Try MD Midwestern Diskette (800) 221-6332. $1.39 qty. 50, $1.49 otherwise.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
HTI
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Could NeXTStep run on a Cray?
Date: 20 May 1995 02:40:27 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3pjkqr$mu8@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <3pgs1k$ii@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3piggu$qp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3piggu$qp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
>echelon@ix.netcom.com (Gary Flint) wrote:
>>How could I get NeXT's OS to work on a Cray.
>>
>>The Cray uses AT&T's UNIX (called UniCos).
>>No GUI though. I want one for this machine, and the NeXT is the
>>slickest.
>>
>
>Sorry, can't do it. NEXTSTEP at this point will only run on the
>following hardware: the original black NeXT 680x0 machines,
>Intel 486/Pentium, Sun SPARC, and Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC.
>_____________________________________________________________
>Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
>University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
>"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
>
Cute. "will -only- run on..."
CD
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Printing rtf files
Date: 19 May 1995 23:53:10 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pjp36$kid@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3pg7tv$qmg@Venus.mcs.com>
Peter Richardson wrote:
> Is there some command line tool to convert RTFs to Postscript or just
> to print them? Online documentations is a nice idea, but it means that
> I have to have 2 computers, 1 to work on and 1 to read documentation on
> since the documentation pages fill the screen (and aren't usefull if
> sized smaller)
>
> Peter Richardson
> par@mcs.com
This was posted long ago... Its yet another EPS tool that is hard to do
without.
// Print RTF files from the command line
// (without a connection to the Window Server!)
// Eric P. Scott, San Francisco State University, November 1993
// + for NS 2.1 and 3.1
// cc -o printrtf -s -O printrtf.m -lNeXT_s
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
#include <ansi/stdio.h>
#import <defaults/defaults.h>
#else
#include <stdio.h>
#import <appkit/defaults.h>
#endif
#import <streams/streams.h>
#import <objc/Object.h>
#import <objc/Storage.h>
#import <appkit/PrintInfo.h>
#import <appkit/Text.h>
#import <dpsclient/dpsclient.h>
#import <dpsclient/psops.h>
@interface FakeApp:Object
{
id _focusStack;
id printInfo;
}
+ initialize;
- init;
- printInfo;
- (BOOL)shouldRunPrintPanel:aView;
- (const char *)appName;
- (const char *const *)systemLanguages;
- _focusStack;
- (DPSContext)context;
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
- (BOOL)_calibratedColorOK;
#endif
@end
@implementation FakeApp
+ initialize
{
static NXDefaultsVector PRDefaults = {
{ "NXFont", "Helvetica" },
{ "NXFontSize", "12" },
{ "NXMargins", "72 72 90 90" },
{ "NXPaperType", "Letter" },
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
{ "NXBoldSystemFonts", "Helvetica" },
{ "NXSystemFonts", "Helvetica-Bold" },
#endif
{ (char *)NULL, (char *)NULL }
};
NXRegisterDefaults("printrtf", PRDefaults);
return self;
}
- init
{
[super init];
_focusStack=[[Storage allocFromZone:[self zone]]
initCount:0 elementSize:10 description:"@*c"];
return self;
}
- printInfo
{
if (!printInfo) printInfo=[[PrintInfo allocFromZone:[self zone]] init];
return printInfo;
}
- (BOOL)shouldRunPrintPanel:aView
{
return NO;
}
- (const char *)appName
{
return "printrtf";
}
- (const char *const *)systemLanguages
{
return (const char *const *)NULL;
}
- _focusStack
{
return _focusStack;
}
- (DPSContext)context
{
return (DPSContext)NULL;
}
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
- (BOOL)_calibratedColorOK
{
return YES;
}
#endif
@end
@interface Text(printrtf)
- (BOOL)lockFocus;
- unlockFocus;
- (BOOL)getVisibleRect:(NXRect *)theRect;
#ifndef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
- beginPSOutput;
#endif
- display:(const NXRect *)rects :(int)rectCount :(BOOL)clipFlag;
- spoolFile:(const char *)filename;
@end
@implementation Text(printrtf)
- (BOOL)lockFocus
{
return (NXDrawingStatus==NX_PRINTING) ? NO : [super lockFocus];
}
- unlockFocus
{
return (NXDrawingStatus==NX_PRINTING) ? self : [super unlockFocus];
}
- (BOOL)getVisibleRect:(NXRect *)theRect
{
if (NXDrawingStatus!=NX_PRINTING) return [super getVisibleRect:theRect];
[self getBounds:theRect];
return YES;
}
#ifndef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
- beginPSOutput
{
extern id NXApp;
[[NXApp printInfo] setPageOrder:NX_ASCENDINGORDER];
return [super beginPSOutput];
}
#endif
- display:(const NXRect *)rects :(int)rectCount :(BOOL)clipFlag
{
if (NXDrawingStatus!=NX_PRINTING)
return [super display:rects:rectCount:clipFlag];
PSgsave();
PStranslate(0.0, -frame.size.height+
(rects[0].size.height+rects[0].origin.y)*2.0);
PSscale(1.0, -1.0);
[self drawSelf:rects:rectCount];
PSgrestore();
return self;
}
- spoolFile:(const char *)filename
{
extern id NXApp;
id pi;
const char *pn;
int cp;
char cmd[256];
pi=[NXApp printInfo];
(void)strcpy(cmd, "exec lpr");
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
if ((pn=[[pi printer] name])&&*pn) {
#else
if ((pn=[pi printerName])&&*pn) {
#endif
(void)strcat(cmd, " -P");
(void)strcat(cmd, pn);
}
if ((cp=[pi copies])>1) (void)sprintf(&cmd[strlen(cmd)], " -#%d", cp);
(void)strcat(cmd, " -r -s ");
(void)strcat(cmd, filename);
(void)system(cmd); /* really should check status here! */
return self;
}
@end
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
extern id NXApp;
register int i;
NXStream *f;
Text *t;
int errs;
NXRect fr;
char *streambuf;
int len, maxlen;
id pi;
char path[24];
errs=0;
[Text excludeFromServicesMenu:YES];
NXApp=[[FakeApp alloc] init];
pi=[NXApp printInfo];
[pi setHorizCentered:NO];
[pi setVertCentered:NO];
#ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0
[pi setReversePageOrder:YES];
#endif
for (i=1;i<argc;i++) {
const NXSize large={ 504.0, 1.0e38 };
if (!(f=NXMapFile(argv[i], NX_READONLY))) {
perror(argv[i]);
errs++;
continue;
}
NXGetMemoryBuffer(f, &streambuf, &len, &maxlen);
NXSetRect(&fr, 0.0, 0.0, 504.0, 21.0);
t=[[Text alloc] initFrame:&fr];
[t setMaxSize:&large];
[t setVertResizable:YES];
if (streambuf&&!strncmp(streambuf, "{\\rtf0\\", 7)) {
[t setMonoFont:NO];
[t readRichText:f];
}
else [t readText:f];
[t sizeToFit];
(void)strcpy(path, "/tmp/.printrtfXXXXXX.ps");
(void)NXGetTempFilename(path, 14);
[pi setOutputFile:path];
[t printPSCode:NXApp];
NXCloseMemory(f, NX_FREEBUFFER);
}
exit(errs);
}
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From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP support in Singapore
Date: 20 May 95 13:48:33 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May20.134833@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <1995May17.224101.19123@instep.bc.ca>
In article <1995May17.224101.19123@instep.bc.ca>, blair@instep.bc.ca writes:
> Hi, does anyone know of any local NEXTSTEP support in Singapore. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> Blair Shellenberg <blair@instep.bc.ca>
Well, I'm a Singaporean NextStation owner (brought it from Europe) but
haven't found yet any other user or reseller of anything NS related. We
live here in a PC/M$ country. But if you are coming to this side of the
world, maybe we could start a 2 person NeXT user-group :-).
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: system setup, will it work?
Date: 20 May 1995 12:27:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3pkn89$kdl@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <2FBB8E4F@deans.medsch.ucla.edu> <RDL.95May19220000@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.95May19220000@world.std.com>,
Robert La Ferla <rdl@world.std.com> wrote:
>I don't think NS supports non-PostScript printers so you'll need to
>upgrade your HP 4L to a HP 4M. Other than that, it should work fine.
There are ways of printing from NS to non-PS printers. Ghostscript, for
example(freely). There are commercial ones as well.
>Of course, more memory wouldn't hurt.
That's a bit of an understatement. If you can get 20Meg that would be good.
32Meg would be great.
Kurt
From: henryc@reality.net6a.io.org (Christian Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 20 May 1995 19:54:48 GMT
Organization: Intro to Reality... North York, Ontario
Message-ID: <3plhe8$1ge@ionews.io.org>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why? :-) Some of us happen to _love_ using IRIX, and dread the thought of
having to run other operating systems (even other Unix or Unix-like systems).
From: "Robert L. Schmitter" <rschmitr@zsmg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: JOBS:NeXTSTEP and Object Oriented Programmers
Date: 20 May 1995 19:58:15 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Message-ID: <3plhkn$k22@news.voicenet.com>
Zonics System Management Group, Inc. is a company that specializes in
creating and Maintaining Mission Critical Application in the Object Oriented
Client Server Environment. We have development a product line that allows our
clients to develop application using NeXTSTEP and deploy them on just about
any other OS (native, no runtime fees!). We have been using this tool set for over
2 years. It has received great reception from our clients. The number of projects
and clients is growing rapidly!
We are looking for developers with all levels of experience to place on
current and future projects. Must be NeXTSTEP or Object Oriented with a
preference in Objective C. We are looking for consultants and prospective
employees. We are based in Philadelphia, PA. Must work locally. Please E-Mail
resume with current salary to:
rschmitr@zsmg.com (NeXTSTEP, MIME, & plain)
P.S. For those of you who would like to use this product line, we plain to make it
publicly available by the end of 1995. Please mail me with your comments.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Is there a WriteNow or RTF to (La)TeX convertor? (La)TeX to WN/RTF?
Message-ID: <D8vyDB.5CF@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 16:41:32 GMT
Hi all,
I'm trying to write a bibliography program for the next, and I'm thinking about
incorporating bibtex in it, although it may eventually prove easier to use the
*bib utilities. Still, it won't even be an option if I can't find an RTF to
(La)TeX convertor or (La)TeX to RTF convertor. Does anyone know of such
beasts. Thanks in advance for your help. Peace,
James
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From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Intel box PCI-SCSI card recommendations?
Date: 20 May 1995 22:28:38 -0700
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3pmj26$b11@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
References: <jpanicoD8uH6z.Is7@netcom.com> <RDL.95May19215329@world.std.com>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
It's not on the CD-ROM but I recommend the DPT PCI card (2024?). DPT
has the best performance I've seen, their cards are rock solid, and their
tech support knows what NEXTSTEP is (and can actually help with problems).
Unfortunately my current machine has an Adaptec 2940 because the DPT driver
wasn't done when I got it. It has problems, and Adaptec tech support is
clueless in general, let alone regarding NEXTSTEP.
-Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Intel box PCI-SCSI card recommendations?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD8xEn2.GB0@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <jpanicoD8uH6z.Is7@netcom.com> <RDL.95May19215329@world.std.com> <3pmj26$b11@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 11:30:38 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom7.netcom.com
Mont Egan Rothstein (mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: It's not on the CD-ROM but I recommend the DPT PCI card (2024?). DPT
: has the best performance I've seen, their cards are rock solid, and their
: tech support knows what NEXTSTEP is (and can actually help with problems).
: Unfortunately my current machine has an Adaptec 2940 because the DPT driver
: wasn't done when I got it. It has problems, and Adaptec tech support is
: clueless in general, let alone regarding NEXTSTEP.
: -Mont
Hi,
Thanks for answering my post. Are you saying that the 2940 driver/card
has problems under NS? If so, could you please tell me what they are? I'm
currently using an EISA DPT card in another machine (DPT 2022) and
am very happy with its performance. Is the
new DPT driver finished? Do you know how robust it is?
Thanks for any new information.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Anyone using W-SCSI device on adaptec 2940w card?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD8xIM7.C09@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 12:56:31 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Hi,
I noticed that the description of the NS 3.3 adaptec 2940W driver says
that Next QA did not test the driver with a wide drive. Has anyone tried
this yet? Are there any hidden gotchas?
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Anyone with IBM 0663 E12 disk??? Need help...
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <D8xJ2D.90L@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 13:06:12 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
is there anyone who uses a IBM 0663 E12 disk?
After a low-level "sdformat" this disk doesn't get ready
anymore during booting. Probably the sdformat changed
something in the Mode Pages of the disk but I don't
know what...
Could please some kind soul who uses this disk send me the
output of
sense -t <scsi id of 0663E12> -p 63
and
sense -t <scsi id of 0663E12> -p 0
(the second command is necessary because the IBM 0663 E12 doesn't
return page 0 if it's requested to return all pages by referring
to page 0x3F (=63)).
The "sense" command is included in the scsitools available
on many ftp servers.
Alternativly: does anyone have the documentation of the Mode
Page 0 from IBM or doesn anyone who I could get it?
Thank you very much in advance,
Thomas
--
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PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171
EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf
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From: moto@cs.cmu.edu (Motonori Shindou)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NEXTSTEP on GATEWAY P5-100XL??
Followup-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Date: 21 May 1995 15:53:10 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MOTO.95May21115310@T.cs.cmu.edu>
Hi,
Is there anyone out there who's running NEXTSTEP on GATEWAY P5-100XL?
For me, the installation went OK but when the machine boots up from
the hard drive, it just panics. Here is my configuration:
CPU: GATEWAY P5-100 XL
Memory: 32MB
Video: ATI Graphics WinTurbo (2M VRAM)
CRT: Vivitron 1776
SCSI: Adaptec 2940
SCSI Disk: Micropolis 3221 (entirely used for NEXTSTEP)
CD-ROM: Toshba 3501
Network: SMC EtherPower (I'm not sure this is supported or not)
Sound: SoundBlaster 16
NEXTSTEP: 3.3.3.8
Any information will be greatly appreciated.
--
==============================================================================
Motonori Shindou Carnegie Mellon University SCS Graduate Student
e-mail: moto@cs.cmu.edu, NiftyServe: GEG04056
WWW: http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001:/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/moto/WWW/moto-home.html
TEL: 412-362-9636 FAX: 412-362-9634
==============================================================================
From: james@coli.uni-sb.de (James Hannigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Wanted: Details on Steve Jobs book
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 19:12:06 +0200
Organization: Computational Linguistics, Univ. of the Saarland
Message-ID: <james-2105951912060001@mp-mac11.coli.uni-sb.de>
Hi,
Could someone please post (or mail me) the details of the book about
Steve Jobs. I saw something about it in one of these c.s.next.* newsgroups
last year but forgot to note the details. I looked for a c.s.n.misc FAQ
but there isn't one.
Thanks, James
--
James Hannigan - System Administration - Computational Linguistics
University Of The Saarland - Saarbruecken - Germany
Email: james@coli.uni-sb.de WWW: http://coli.uni-sb.de/~james
From: cadilhac@arles.univ-rennes1.fr (Nicolas Cadilhac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: Problems in forwardind mails
Date: 19 May 1995 10:19:32 GMT
Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France
Message-ID: <3phrbk$hjs@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
Hello,
I want to forward some mails to another account, but just from some
people. I'm trying to use procmail.
If someone uses procmail, please help me.
My mails are not forwarded at all. Here is my .forward :
"|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail cadilhac"
Here is my .procmailrc :
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mailboxes/Active.mbox
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
:0 c
* ^From.*@*enserb*
#* ^Subject:.*compilers
! me@arles.univ-rennes1.fr
:0 A
enserbSave
I receive the mail on my account, but me don't receive it !
Thanks for any help
--
Nicolas Cadilhac
----------------
INSERM CJF 90-12
Clinique neurologique
Hopital Pontchaillou
35033 Rennes Cedex
From: moto@cs.cmu.edu (Motonori Shindou)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on GATEWAY P5-100XL??
Followup-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Date: 21 May 1995 18:59:26 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MOTO.95May21145926@T.cs.cmu.edu>
References: <MOTO.95May21115310@T.cs.cmu.edu>
In-reply-to: moto@cs.cmu.edu's message of 21 May 1995 15:53:10 GMT
Let me follow up to myself :-)
>>>>> "moto" == Motonori Shindou <moto@cs.cmu.edu> writes:
moto> Hi, Is there anyone out there who's running NEXTSTEP on GATEWAY
moto> P5-100XL? For me, the installation went OK but when the machine
moto> boots up from the hard drive, it just panics.
This was just caused by a misconfiguration of a network card. I'm
using SMC EtherPower but Configure.app recongnized it as a "Cogent
EM960 PCI Ethernet Adapter". I naively accepted this configuraiton,
which brought me a panic when booting. I deleted the Cogent network
driver and succeeded to boot the machine up properly.
The next problem I encountered is the display mode. I'm using ATI
Graphics WinTurbo (2M VRAM) and I selected "ATI Ultra Pro" as my
display driver with the mode 1024x768x16bpp at 60Hz. But it does only
640x480 grayscale. I left the Port Address (0x100) and Mapped Memory
(0x7e00000) unchanged as default in Configure.app. It might be
necessary to play with these values so that the video card works as
expected. Could any kind soul teach me how to set these values
correctly? Thanks in advance!
--
==============================================================================
Motonori Shindou Carnegie Mellon University SCS Graduate Student
e-mail: moto@cs.cmu.edu, NiftyServe: GEG04056
WWW: http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001:/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/moto/WWW/moto-home.html
TEL: 412-362-9636 FAX: 412-362-9634
==============================================================================
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Could NeXTStep run on a Cray?
Date: 21 May 1995 19:06:48 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3po308$qtc@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <3pgs1k$ii@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
Seymore Cray (echelon@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: That is the question.
: How could I get NeXT's OS to work on a Cray.
: The Cray uses AT&T's UNIX (called UniCos).
: No GUI though. I want one for this machine, and the NeXT is the
: slickest.
: Suggestions?
Get on the phone to NeXT, and give them a multi-million dollar contract.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 22 May 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3pp34e$bkk@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hologram@ripco.com (Holographic Projection)
Subject: 2.88 Meg floppies
Message-ID: <D8yuC3.G1s@rci.ripco.com>
Sender: usenet@rci.ripco.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Ripco BBS, Free Trial account (312) 665-0065
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 06:07:15 GMT
Folks.....
I purchase mine at the local Best Buy, for about the same price as HD
floppies! LESS THAN A BUCK A PIECE. Rather than turn myself into a resller,
I'll just pass this info on....maybe this will insure that they will keep them
in stock (Maxells, too!)
See you there!
"Holo"
--
"I'm only a figment of your imagination"
From: andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can I use the Next printer with my PC?
Keywords: printer
Message-ID: <110787@dworkin.wustl.edu>
Date: 22 May 95 15:15:01 GMT
Organization: Washington University St. Louis, MO
I have a nextstation with a next printer.
Recently, I also got a PC.
My question is: Has anybody managed to connect
PC and the Next environments, so that the next printer
could be used also for the printing needs of the PC?
Looking in the drivers that come with my PC , I noticed
that there is at least one HP driver which prepares
a bitmap of the file to be printed. Isn't this what
the next printer requires?
I would appreciate any insight on this subject.
Thank you very much in advance,
Dr. Andreas D. Bovopoulos
Principal Engineer
Chipcom Corporation
118 Turnpike Road
Southborough, MA 01772-1886
tel:(508) 490-5602
fax:(508) 490-5873
e-mail: abovopou@chipcom.com
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP! Alt has changed...
Date: 22 May 1995 15:48:11 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3pqbnr$b3q@mailer.york.ac.uk>
I just moved over to 3.3 - I haven't seen any of the problems which
other people describe, but I have one of my own which is going to
become a big pain unless I can find a way round it - the ALT key
now does odd things when used with keys '9' and '0'. Under terminal
it used to generate ESC followed by the key - and still does for most
keys. Unfortunately for ALt-9 and ALT-0 is starts messing with the
window instead. This is very bad news for me as I have software which
relies on being able to use these keys. Does anyone know a way of turning
these off or am I going to have to resort to running 3.2 terminal under 3.3 ?
-bat.
From: Timothy Lee <timothy@perca.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: oracle/sysbase engine for NeXTStep
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 12:46:31 -0400
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950522124253.8284C-100000@perca.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hi there :)
I heard that NeXT/Intel v3.1 came with a sybase dbase engine. Can anyone
validate this? Also, if this is true, can anyone suggest where I may be
able to get a copy of it. Also, any recommendation to working with
database engine in NeXT OS is greately appreciated.
Please send email to timothy@perca.umd.edu
Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT station needed urgently!
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950522144131.21497B-100000@eddie>
Sender: news@cdf.toronto.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 18:43:42 GMT
We are looking for a used Monitor Saver for NeXT station (68040
processor). Monitor Saver is made by Cypress Computer. We called them to
order it, but were told that this product for black hardware is no longer
produced. They manufacture it now only for Intel based machines. We were
just wondering if someone has Monitor Saver for black hardware and is
willing to sell it to us. We desperately need this piece of hardware.
Please respond ASAP.
Thanx in advance.
Alex.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Q: Problems in forwardind mails
References: <3phrbk$hjs@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:46:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May22.074652.8278@proximus.north.de>
In article <3phrbk$hjs@news.univ-rennes1.fr>,
Nicolas Cadilhac <cadilhac@arles.univ-rennes1.fr> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I want to forward some mails to another account, but just from some
>people. I'm trying to use procmail.
[... .forward ...]
BTW: You can use procmail as your standard mail delivery agent out of
sendmail, if you want.
>Here is my .procmailrc :
[...]
Have a look at this:
--------------------------------
# 1.) Die mail von next-prerelease-de@informatik.uni-muenchen.de wird
# automatisch an Andy weitergeleitet und gleichzeitig in meine
# next-prerelease-de Mailbox eingetragen.
: c
next-prerelease-de
|(MAILFILE=mail.$$; \
echo "Hallo Andy, " > /tmp/$MAILFILE; \
cat >> /tmp/$MAILFILE; \
MYSUBJECT="Automatic PR1-forward:`egrep '^Subject:' /tmp/$MAILFILE | cut -d: -f2-`";\
cat /tmp/$MAILFILE | nextmail -s "$MYSUBJECT" 'Andy Hewett <*****[Adress deleted]*****>')
: A
|appnmail next-prerelease-de
-----------------------------------------
Gerhard.
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N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N
e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: pdclark@lennybruce.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Could NeXTStep run on a Cray?
Date: 22 May 1995 20:54:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Message-ID: <PDCLARK.95May22135424@lennybruce.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <3pgs1k$ii@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3piggu$qp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
<3pjkqr$mu8@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu's message of 20 May 1995 02:40:27 GMT
In article <3piggu$qp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
>echelon@ix.netcom.com (Gary Flint) wrote:
>>How could I get NeXT's OS to work on a Cray.
>>
>>The Cray uses AT&T's UNIX (called UniCos).
>>No GUI though. I want one for this machine, and the NeXT is the
>>slickest.
>>
>
>Sorry, can't do it. NEXTSTEP at this point will only run on the
>following hardware: the original black NeXT 680x0 machines,
>Intel 486/Pentium, Sun SPARC, and Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC.
Well, don't forget that Cray makes a line of low-end (for Cray) machines that are SPARC-based, and run Solaris. They should do just fine with OpenStep.
I'd love to have one on *my* desk instead of this sparc-10!
Best,
Pete
--
***************************************************************************
Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and
SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks
Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy.
***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: NS/HPPA doesn't recognize NS partition on removable media
Message-ID: <D8zznw.29C@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <D8n4vM.99o@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 20:59:56 GMT
Thomas Wolfram (wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: I just discovered a behavior of NS/HPPA 3.3 I consider a bug.
: [...]
: Someone might think that this doesn't matter and PC-partitions
: have a broken concept anyway. But: first, it's kind of standard
: and useful because I could split a big 270MB SyQuest cartridge
: for use with DOS and NS - often I don't need that much space
: if I carry files - and second, more imported, the behavior of NS
: on all supported architecures should be consistent.
This also occurs with hard disks that use fdisk partitions, when plugged
into black hardware. I have made NS 3.2 and 3.3 crash with System Panics
when trying to mount both the DOS and NS partitions on a disk on black
hardware.
I consider this lack of consistency between platforms running NeXTSTEP to
be absolutely stupid. It means that I can read Mac disks easier than NeXT
disks on black hardware (and SPARC and PA-RISC too, I imagine).
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: dmitch@dell.next.com (Doug Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone using W-SCSI device on adaptec 2940w card?
Date: 22 May 1995 21:39:31 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3pr0aj$mt4@news.next.com>
References: <jpanicoD8xIM7.C09@netcom.com>
In article <jpanicoD8xIM7.C09@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
writes:
> I noticed that the description of the NS 3.3 adaptec 2940W driver says
> that Next QA did not test the driver with a wide drive. Has anyone tried
> this yet? Are there any hidden gotchas?
I've done some informal testing using a 2940W and a Seagate ST31200W
drive. It worked fine. The only caveat I'd like to point out is that under
NS 3.3, you are limited to a range of 8 targets (0 to 7, including the
host).
--dpm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: oracle/sysbase engine for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <D900xK.5CK@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950522124253.8284C-100000@perca.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:27:20 GMT
Timothy Lee (timothy@perca.umd.edu) wrote:
: I heard that NeXT/Intel v3.1 came with a sybase dbase engine. Can anyone
: validate this? Also, if this is true, can anyone suggest where I may be
: able to get a copy of it. Also, any recommendation to working with
: database engine in NeXT OS is greately appreciated.
Intel NeXTSTEP has never come with Sybase server. It does come with all
the client stuff, though, in /usr/sybase, and DBKit adaptors.
Sybase server came with NeXTSTEP only up to version 2.1 (or 3.0?) of the OS.
Check out StepWise's WWW site (http://stepwise.com) for info on database
products available for NeXTSTEP.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: kohler@lithnext3 (Vincent Kohler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Site for web browser ?
Date: 19 May 1995 10:13:38 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <3phr0i$eqg@disunms.epfl.ch>
References: <3o3fk7$18c@cs.ubc.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dominic Tam (dtam@cs.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Hi ! Is there any ftp site having free or
: shareware web browser for NeXT (black ) ?
: Thanks in advance !
: Dominic
Try ftp://sente.epfl.ch/pub/software/SW/SpiderWoman.app.N.tar.gz
Enjoy
Vincent
---------------------------------------------
Vincent Kohler
Laboratoire d'informatqie theorique
EPFL Switzerland
kohler@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail welcome)
From: james@coli.uni-sb.de (James Hannigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Details on Steve Jobs book
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:19:50 +0200
Organization: Computational Linguistics, Univ. of the Saarland
Message-ID: <james-2305951119500001@mp-mac11.coli.uni-sb.de>
References: <james-2105951912060001@mp-mac11.coli.uni-sb.de>
FYI, Received the following information via E-mail:
Steve Jobs - The Journey is the Reward
by Jeffrey S, Young
Copyright 1988 by Lynx Books
ISBN 1-55802-378-X
--
James Hannigan - System Administration - Computational Linguistics
University Of The Saarland - Saarbruecken - Germany
Email: james@coli.uni-sb.de WWW: http://coli.uni-sb.de/~james
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: The definitive question on NEXTSTEP and colordepth?
Message-ID: <D91EIw.A1@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:18:32 GMT
For people who haven't followed an earlier thread on NEXTSTEP and color, here
is a short reminder:
The question is: how does NEXTSTEP handle color internally? For a
NeXTDimension it is simple: RGBa:8888, or Red-Green-Blue all 8 bits per pixel
and alpha (transparency) also 8 bits.
When we see a screen picture, how is NEXTSTEP handling it? At least it has
the capability to handle RGBa:8888. But what about the NexTstation color? It's
screen supports RGBa:4444. Does that mean internally RGBa:8888 is used
and it is dithered to RGBa:4444? Or is it genuine RGBa:4444 inside? Since one
can handle RGBa:8888, also on a RGBa:4444 station, it is suggested that
NEXTSTEP always works in 32bit color mode, even on systems that do not
support it with their display. So:
If I use mode RGB:555 on a Weitek card, is NEXTSTEP really using
RGBa:8888 and dithering to RGB:555?
If I use mode RGB:444 on an Canon ObjectStation, is NEXTSTEP
really using RGBa:8888 and dithering to RGB:444? Or is NEXTSTEP really
using RGBa:4444?
The why of this question:
A SPARCstation 5 is a relatively slow machine, but on the outside it
seems fast. The SS5 has 8bit graphics and a special 8bit accelerator card, so
the snappyness comes to no big surprise. But the question is: suppose we
would make that SS5 use 14bit color? Would the performance of only the
display driver take a hit, or would the Window Server itself take a hit? Or: how
does colordepth influence NEXTSTEP (Window Server) performance?
And why isn't this properly explained somewhere in the documentation?
--Gerben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dongheon <dongheon@shiva.hsr.re.kr>
Subject: About Digital Webster API Function Call Spec
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Message-ID: <1995May22.011714.4664@news.snu.ac.kr>
Sender: usenet@news.snu.ac.kr (NEWS POSTER)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: HEI
Date: Mon, 22 May 95 01:17:14 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
About Digital Webster API Function Call Spec
Hi,
I am research engineer of HEI.
I do not use NeXTStep, but we have one NeXT computer.
But We don't have any documents book about it
I am interested in Digital Webster API Function Call Spec.
So, HOW or WHERE can I get this SPEC?
If you have any information, answer to me, please.
Thanks in advance.
Bye.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,xomp.sys.next.marketplace
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: What's the best (and not too expensive) color printer for NS 3.3 ?
Message-ID: <D8vpu3.Dx@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:37:15 GMT
Hi all,
I'm still trying to find somebody who had any experience with Fargo Color
printers under NS !
Since there seems to be no one (at least no one who wanted to tell me
about it) does anyone know of a very good, high quality color printer for
NS ? I don't want to spend more than $1000 - $2000 for it, drivers for NS
included in that price range. And I want good quality so I can print
photos that really look close to real photos.
Please, e-mail me everything you know about those.
Thanks a lot
---
Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Is there a Voice recognition app for NS Intel ?
Message-ID: <D8vpz0.Ep@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:40:11 GMT
Hi all,
I heard about SimonSays for the Motorola and that is exactly the kind of
software that I'm looking for, only for Intel !
Does anyone know anything about such an app ?
Thanks a lot
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 2.88 Meg floppies
Date: 19 May 1995 12:17:17 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3pi28d$io3@newstand.syr.edu>
Anybody know a place to order 2.88 meg floppies cheap(ly)?
TIA
--
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Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
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From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing rtf files
Date: 18 May 1995 14:41:51 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <3pg7tv$qmg@Venus.mcs.com>
Is there some command line tool to convert RTFs to Postscript or just
to print them? Online documentations is a nice idea, but it means that
I have to have 2 computers, 1 to work on and 1 to read documentation on
since the documentation pages fill the screen (and aren't usefull if
sized smaller)
Peter Richardson
par@mcs.com
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Could NeXTStep run on a Cray?
Date: 19 May 1995 16:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Computation Center
Message-ID: <3piggu$qp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3pgs1k$ii@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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echelon@ix.netcom.com (Gary Flint) wrote:
>How could I get NeXT's OS to work on a Cray.
>
>The Cray uses AT&T's UNIX (called UniCos).
>No GUI though. I want one for this machine, and the NeXT is the
>slickest.
>
Sorry, can't do it. NEXTSTEP at this point will only run on the
following hardware: the original black NeXT 680x0 machines,
Intel 486/Pentium, Sun SPARC, and Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC.
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Maximus 100MHz Pentium works!?
Date: 23 May 1995 18:07:31 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pt893$p0q@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I am trying to run NS 3.3 on a Maximus "Magna NT wide":
Gigabyte board, SiS chipset, Award BIOS, Adaptec 2940w,
Diamond Stealth 64 PCI 2MB VRAM, SB16 soundcard
It loaded with no problem (well, almost none, I think I
had to change some SCSI settings).
However, it crashes at particular, rare moments: During
the "composite" part of the NXBench test, and when running
the C-compiler. I heard about disabling the "Burst transfer"
thing in the PCI setup, but that does not help. After some playing
around, I discovered that disabling the external cache in the
BIOS setup fixes the problem. I am concerned and at a loss
about whether the motherboard might be faulty or whether
there is some bug in the system or some driver.
Any hints, suggestions or help will be greatly appreciated!
---
Andreas Windemuth
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics
|630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail
|New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
--
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------
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|New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu
From: sirius@interconnect.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Oracle on black hardware - problems with NS 3.3
Date: Wed, 24 May 95 19:14:43 PDT
Organization: Interconnect Australia
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.21579.801368443.sirius@sirius.syd.interconnect.com.au.syd.interconnect.com.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Regarding: Oracle 6 problems on NEXTSTATION
Oracle Version: Oracle 6.0.33.2.1 ( for NEXTSTEP 2.1 )
Hardware: NEXT Station Motorola
Operating System: NEXTSTEP 3.3
Please email any replies to: sirius@interconnect.com.au
I am running an version 6 of Oracle on a an old NeXTStation, and have done so
successfully until I upgraded the NEXTSTEP Operating system from version 3.2 to
3.3 ( even though the Oracle version was developed for NEXTSTEP 2.1 )
With the NEXTSTEP upgrade which I belive had some upgrades of the Mach Kernel,
I suddenly had problems with the Oracle database.
This was obvious just running the SQL*DBA application as the following
transscript displays:
SQL*DBA: Version 6.0.33.2.1 - Production on Sat May 20 09:48:59 1995
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1989. All rights reserved.
ORACLE RDBMS V6.0.33.2.1 - Production
SQLDBA> connect system/polarbear1
ORA-09751: pw_attachPorts: server call pws_attach failed.
SQLDBA>
The console output was:
May 20 09:49:21 localhost (Oracle helper)[1082]: pws_attach(oracle) fails for
process 5, port rights still out
I have tried to reinstall the Oracle from scratch but no improved result.
One thing I noticed in the reinstallation that the 'pws.daemon' (which is the
(Oracle helper) process ) was not relinked as most of the other executables in
the $(ORACLE_HOME)/bin directory had been !!
Is anybody still using Oracle on NEXTStations out there and have they any
problems with it running 3.3 of NEXTSTEP.
Any help would be appreciated !!!
Please email direct to sirius@interconnect.com.au
Regards
Michael
From: Antony Freeman <antony@datatext.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Can I use the Next printer with my PC?
Date: 23 May 1995 20:53:54 GMT
Organization: Internet Discovery Ltd
Message-ID: <3pti12$l1o@altos.idiscover.co.uk>
References: <110787@dworkin.wustl.edu>
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andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) wrote:
>
>I have a nextstation with a next printer.
>Recently, I also got a PC.
>
>My question is: Has anybody managed to connect
>PC and the Next environments, so that the next printer
>could be used also for the printing needs of the PC?
Our next acts as print server for a mixed network including PCs.
We run Chameleon NFS on the PCs and find that any Postscript
Windows printer driver works fine - Apple Laserwriter II NT for example.
You need to ensure PCNFSD is running on the NeXT
>Looking in the drivers that come with my PC , I noticed
>that there is at least one HP driver which prepares
>a bitmap of the file to be printed. Isn't this what
>the next printer requires?
Maybe but what's wrong with Postscript
>I would appreciate any insight on this subject.
>Thank you very much in advance,
>Dr. Andreas D. Bovopoulos
>Principal Engineer
>Chipcom Corporation
>118 Turnpike Road
>Southborough, MA 01772-1886
>
>tel:(508) 490-5602
>fax:(508) 490-5873
>e-mail: abovopou@chipcom.com
--
Regards
Antony
====================================
Antony Freeman
Data Text Processing Ltd
Data Capture - Electronic Publishing
====================================
Tel: +44(0)1892 861222
Fax: +44(0)1892 861211
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 24 May 1995 14:28:14 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pvfpu$lr6@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3pv963$ma9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Ben Moseley writes
> Call me radical - but I kind of thought that some users of my app might
> quite like millimeters or meters. Sure for display purposes, an app can
> automatically choose what to use (as I'm sure WriteUp does with rulers
> etc.). However, my main interest is in the units assumed for distance
> input for a document.
Call me slow - but now I get it. 8^) You're right, WriteUp automatically
adjusts its rulers depending on the scale of a view, but that does not
address the issue of how users _input_ measurements. Yes, millimeters
are just tenths of centimeters, but if MM is the natural unit for a task,
mental division gets old after a while.
> I guess subclassing PageLayout is the way forward as Bruce suggests...
For an individual application, yes. (In WriteUp, there's also a popup at
the bottom of each document window.) But it would be nice to have an
extensible global table. WriteUp already picks up a user's GLOBAL unit
preference if it has never been set in the application. The only other
value needed is the conversion factor for that unit to PostScript points.
As I said in an earlier post, ultimately every type of measurement must
be converted internally to PS points. The rest is just for the sake of
user convenience, and I agree it shouldn't be made difficult for a user
to choose their own convenience.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
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From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Limit to inodes?
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Hi,
What determines the maximum number of inodes that a particular SCSI
device has available? By copying about 25,000 files to an Iomega
Zip disk, I got a console error message that said "out of inodes".
How many does a SCSI HD get?
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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From: hohner@aol.com (Hohner)
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Details on Steve Jobs book
Date: 24 May 1995 14:01:18 -0400
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Also..
Steve Jobs and the Next Big Thing. ISBN unknown.
Steve Haynes
EQB Industries.
From: kafkouli@fiu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 24 May 1995 19:28:29 GMT
Organization: Florida International University
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Originator: kafkouli@solix
Hi
Is there any PublicDomain WEB Browser (free or shareware)
which works with NEXTSTEP 3.2?
SpiderWoman requires NX3.3 or EOF 1.0.
What is EOF and how expensive is it?
I know that university discounts for OmniWeb
is $49 per seat.
Any help will be appreciated .
Regards
George Kafkoulis
Instructional Mathematical Laboratory
Florida International University
Miami Florida
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dots.app with Epson Color Stylus?
Date: 24 May 1995 16:30:46 -0500
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Phil Menos asks:
> Anyone using the Epson Color Stylus with the Dots driver?
> Can you get up to 720x720 print resolution? Are you
> getting the "jaggies?" I'm interesting in buying the
> driver, but it seems expensive (about $180) unless it
> really works well....
I have had the Dots 3.5 installed on the Intel machine at home (Epson NX),
driving an HP-DJ560C. But, only in Demo Mode, so it comes out with
"Heinz Banner" across it. Being poor, I had also installed GhostScript and
mostly have been using that.
However, the GS driver, at least for the HPDJ, sometimes doesn't work at all
(e.g., Diagram files with arrowheads, some Concurrence files, and other examples,
even out of Tailor.app). It just grinds away, and I either have to kill it from
the Printer Manager queue or even, at times, go in as root and delete the
problem file in /usr/spool/appkit. (Unfortuantely, the grinding is a "moving
target" and doing a 'ps aux | grep ghost' gives you a PID that is no longer
there when you try to kill it a few seconds later.)
At other times, the GhostScript driver just doesn't work very well: it
cuts things off if you try legal-size paper, it misses some colored fonts
(dithers into gray), and it sometimes puts some black speckles in with a solid
block of color.
IN ALL CASES when this happens, if I then then try the offending print job
using Dots 3.5, it "just works", correctly. No "jaggies", at least on the
Desk Jet.
So, after a frustration of the above last night, I finally broke down and
did what I told Federico some months ago I was going to do -- I bought a license
for Dots 3.5.5 for the HP-DJ550C (which presumably drives HP-DJ560C, since it does
in 3.5 in demo mode). Note, by the way, that from OpenSource, such a license
(which must be the same price as for the Epson Stylus) cost me $220.
Dick Silbar
WhistelSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: Limit to inodes?
Message-ID: <D9400n.DBK@trapac.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 00:57:58 GMT
In article <jpanicoD93Asp.Lon@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes:
>Hi,
>
>What determines the maximum number of inodes that a particular SCSI
>device has available? By copying about 25,000 files to an Iomega
>Zip disk, I got a console error message that said "out of inodes".
>
>How many does a SCSI HD get?
>
The number of inodes allocated is a function of the size of the
disk. By default one inode is allocated for each 2048 bytes on
the drive. If you need to up or reduce this limit, you can do so
by using newfs, when you first format the disk. If you really need
to store that many files on such a device, consider using tar to
recude the number of inodes used, by combining several files into
one.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Limit to inodes?
In-Reply-To: jpanico@netcom.com's message of Wed, 24 May 1995 15:53:13 GMT
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 01:29:16 GMT
It has nothing to do with the SCSI device. It has to do with the filesystem.
Look at the man page for "newfs"
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
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From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <ehrlich@tpa.cent.com>
Subject: NeXT station 040 (black) support in Tampa/St. Petersburg, Florida
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Looking for a contact (business or personal owner) in the St.
Petersburg/Tampa bay area of Florida who can assist me with loading 2.1
software on my NeXT station computer. I am the original owner and need to
load the older software because of hard disk software corruption.
Thank you
ehrlich@tpa.cent.com
813-896-9150
From: bm10009@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: 24 May 1995 12:35:15 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
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> In article <3paf0o$93i@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
> Anderson) writes:
> }~ Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
> }~
> }~ Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested in
> }~ our word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes'
> }~ reflection, I can't even think of any other standards.
Call me radical - but I kind of thought that some users of my app might
quite like millimeters or meters. Sure for display purposes, an app can
automatically choose what to use (as I'm sure WriteUp does with rulers
etc.). However, my main interest is in the units assumed for distance
input for a document.
It would also be nice to let users have whatever wacky units they want.
I guess subclassing PageLayout is the way forward as Bruce suggests...
Ben.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Dots.app with Epson Color Stylus?
Date: 22 May 1995 14:32:35 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3pq7a3$gu2@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: gpmenos@sysof2
Hello. Anyone using the Epson Color Stylus with the Dots driver? Can
you get up to 7200x720 print resolution? Are you getting the
"jaggies?" I'm interesting in buying the driver, but it seems
expensive (about $180) unless it really works well....
Thanks for any information (by email please)...
Phil
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: michael@hesta2 (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Accounting software?
Date: 25 May 1995 13:13:39 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3q1vq3$26d@corporate.hesta.com>
If anyone is aware of a strong, simle accounting package viable on
NEXSTEP please e-mail me directly.
Thanks!
michael@hesta.com
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From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Maximus 100MHz Pentium works!?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD932xv.7Az@netcom.com>
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:03:31 GMT
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Andreas Windemuth (windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I am trying to run NS 3.3 on a Maximus "Magna NT wide":
: around, I discovered that disabling the external cache in the
: BIOS setup fixes the problem. I am concerned and at a loss
I had almost exactly the same experience when I tried to install NS 3.2 on
a dirt cheap no-name Intel box Clone. I believe that Cache architectures
are not totally standardized, and that there is no guarantee that a
given cache will work with NS. I was able to successfully run NS 3.2 Intel
on my clone by disabling the external cache. Of course, the machine ran
at least 3 times slower as a result of turning of the cache. Ultimately I
solved the problem by buying a Digital DECpc 466 MTE. Sorry I can't be
more helpful, but maybe someone who really knows something about the
motherboard issues can shed more light on the subject.
: about whether the motherboard might be faulty or whether
: there is some bug in the system or some driver.
Incidentally, I dont think there was anything "wrong" with the external
cache in my clone-- Windoze and Linux worked fine. It just seemed to
be incompatible with NS.
: ---
: Andreas Windemuth
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com>
Subject: Re: The definitive question on NEXTSTEP and colordepth?
In-Reply-To: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL's message of Tue, 23 May 1995 15:18:32 GMT
Message-ID: <pseo1p6zjw.fsf_-_@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
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References: <D91EIw.A1@AWT.NL>
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 03:26:59 GMT
Gerben Wierda writes:
Gerben> When we see a screen picture, how is NEXTSTEP handling it? At least
Gerben> it has the capability to handle RGBa:8888. But what about the
Gerben> NexTstation color? It's screen supports RGBa:4444. Does that mean
Gerben> internally RGBa:8888 is used and it is dithered to RGBa:4444? Or is
Gerben> it genuine RGBa:4444 inside? Since one can handle RGBa:8888, also on
Gerben> a RGBa:4444 station, it is suggested that NEXTSTEP always works in
Gerben> 32bit color mode, even on systems that do not support it with their
Gerben> display. So: If I use mode RGB:555 on a Weitek card, is NEXTSTEP
Gerben> really using RGBa:8888 and dithering to RGB:555? If I use mode
Gerben> RGB:444 on an Canon ObjectStation, is NEXTSTEP really using
Gerben> RGBa:8888 and dithering to RGB:444? Or is NEXTSTEP really using
Gerben> RGBa:4444?
Depends. The screen bits themselves are whatever they claim to be. A
NeXTStation color really is using 12bpp color in the framebuffer. Things
that are drawn to it are dithered as they are drawn.
Offscreen buffers are whatever. Usually they'll start out as 2bpp and get
promoted as needed. Usually they will get promoted to match the deepest
screen depth, which if you're on a NSC, means the offscreen buffers are
really 12bpp (16, really, with 4 bits alpha).
What happens when you composite is a best effort sort of thing. If it's
depth-to-depth, the obvious thing happens. If not, there are several
potential optimized paths, such as 2-bit to whatever. The general case is,
well, general.
Note that the window server must have certain depth concepts compiled into
it - if the window server hasn't ever been taught to address 14bpp, it
won't. HOWEVER, note that 14bpp, 15bpp, and 16bpp are generally the same in
terms of addressing - they just have a different color table. The window
server _IS_ prepared to handle an arbitrary color cube. That information
must be fed to the windowserver when it cranks up a new device. I don't
remember if NeXT provided a way to feed an arbitrary color cube spec to DPS
or not.
Assuming that they did, and you figure out how to do that, then the only
problem is compositing performance. There are fancy inverse-lookup tricks
you can do to speed up 15 and 16bpp compositing, but I don't know if those
tricks were generalized to handle the arbitrary color cube case, or whether
they relied on certain color cube configurations. For example, 16bpp
usually means the same as 15bpp - a 5 by 5 by 5 color cube. That's a pretty
easy inverse lookup to optimize. Generalizing that is hard.
IF the server starts up and is happy with 14bpp, generalized drawing
shouldn't suffer (ralative to 15 or 16bpp. It does necessarily suffer
relative to 8 - more data to deal with). If you never use the alpha
channel, you should be okay. If you do do compositing with alpha values
(say, like dragging around icons!) the server may suffer quite noticably.
As to why it isn't documented, that should be obvious by now :-).
--
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Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
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From: zahorka@ifi.unizh.ch (Oliver Zahorka)
Subject: Q: XWindows on NeXT cube
Message-ID: <1995May24.115327.17902@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:53:27 GMT
Is there a (public domain) XWindow emulation software to use on a NeXT cube in
a mixed platform network? Purpose is to rlogin on a host and redirect it's
output to the NeXT.
Thank you very much for your help.
BTW, despite of my working in a CS dept I'm NOT a UNIX crack, so please forgive
my ignorance regarding this subject...(why else would I be using Nextstep? :)
--
_____________________________________________________________________
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University of Zurich
zahorka@ifi.unizh.ch Winterthurerstrasse 190
(NeXT mail ok) CH-8057 Zurich/Switzerland
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PC Graphics Cards Performance
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 00:05:54 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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I am planning to upgrade my PC system during the summer. what I'd like to
know is, given all the reviews in magazines for PC DOS/Windows system of
Graphics Adapters, how do I tell (or perhaps a hint?) that a graphics
card would yield good performance under NeXTSTEP Intel? I've heard some
graphics adapters are great performers in windows but when it comes to
NeXTSTEP it crawls like a turtle. Which test(s) should I rely more on to
make a prediction? Thanx.
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Intel box PCI-SCSI card recommendations?
Date: 25 May 1995 11:34:50 -0700
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3q2ika$i3m@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
References: <jpanicoD8uH6z.Is7@netcom.com> <RDL.95May19215329@world.std.com> <3pmj26$b11@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <jpanicoD8xEn2.GB0@netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
In article <jpanicoD8xEn2.GB0@netcom.com>,
Joe Panico <jpanico@netcom.com> wrote:
>Mont Egan Rothstein (mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu) wrote:
>: It's not on the CD-ROM but I recommend the DPT PCI card (2024?). DPT
>: has the best performance I've seen, their cards are rock solid, and their
>: tech support knows what NEXTSTEP is (and can actually help with problems).
>
>: Unfortunately my current machine has an Adaptec 2940 because the DPT driver
>: wasn't done when I got it. It has problems, and Adaptec tech support is
>: clueless in general, let alone regarding NEXTSTEP.
>
>: -Mont
>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for answering my post. Are you saying that the 2940 driver/card
>has problems under NS? If so, could you please tell me what they are? I'm
>currently using an EISA DPT card in another machine (DPT 2022) and
>am very happy with its performance. Is the
>new DPT driver finished? Do you know how robust it is?
>
>Thanks for any new information.
>
>Joe Panico
>jpanico@netcom.com
>
>--
>
>Joe Panico
>jpanico@netcom.com
>
Well, I'll tell you what I know.
1) Our ISA DPT cards out perform the Adaptec VL-Bus card AND the Adaptec had
a bug in the scatter/gather algorythm that caused to to lock under high
loads. This started my dislike for Adaptec.
2) All of my dealings with DPT tech support have been with informed people
who were polite and helpful (a rarity in the industry). All of my dealings
with Adaptec tech support have been with uninformed people who were no help
at all, were clueless as to what NEXTSTEP wwas, and didn't seem to care
about my problems.
3) My current Adaptec 2940 (PCI) card was a bear to get working. After I
finally got it working I had to remove the NEC CD-ROM (in the middle of the
chain). When I removed the CD-ROM my SCSI bus started timing out. Still
terminated on both ends, nothing else was changed. Trying to develop with
a system the times out every few minutes is a pain in the ass! When I spoke
with Adaptec, they said they really had no idea, but that I should try a
low-level format of the drive. UGh!
4) DPT had the driver from NeXT before it was released from NeXT in late
March. With the "beta" (which was not public) DPT claimed no problems.
For my money today, I'd by the DPT.
-Mont
Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 25 May 1995 18:41:41 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>
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To: kafkouli@fiu.edu
kafkouli@fiu.edu wrote:
>Hi
>Is there any PublicDomain WEB Browser (free or shareware)
>which works with NEXTSTEP 3.2?
>SpiderWoman requires NX3.3 or EOF 1.0.
>What is EOF and how expensive is it?
>I know that university discounts for OmniWeb
>is $49 per seat.
>Any help will be appreciated .
>Regards
>
Hello,
But I thought I saw OmniWeb for free on ftp.orst.cs.edu or some such
site ?!?!? Am I mistaken ?
Best Regards,
Amir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Subject: black SCSI speed
Message-ID: <D8xptA.MD6@zoodle.robin.de>
Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Organization: meow!!!
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:31:57 GMT
Hi!
after acquiring a new harddisk I was just a bit disappointed to the speed
that the SCSI port of my NeXTstation is able to deliver. Using direct
disk I/O (disk /dev/rsd2a with read command, block size & count 128) I got
about 1.6 to 1.7 MBytes/sec. Since the drive (a Connor 4GB disk) is able
to provide over 5 MBytes/sec I would like to get a bit more than that.
I do know that the SCSI interface of the NeXTstation has a theoretical
maximum of 5 MBytes/sec (other than full SCSI-II with 10 MBytes/sec), but
1.7 is just a third of this theoretical maximum. I'm pretty sure the disk
itself is faster: The German computer magazine C't just got a transfer rate
on the outside of the disk of ~6300 KBytes/sec with that drive, so the disk
itself is even almost 4 times as fast as it is on the NeXT. This definitely
is not buffer->host transfer rate, but rather disk surface->host transfer
rate.
Now where is that bottleneck. Let's see:
RAM: 32 bit wide, 100 ns, gives a maximum rate of 40 MBytes/sec. Should be
enough.
CPU: close to that, we do have DMA anyway, so it's not the CPU bus itself.
DMA: should be able to get more than 4 % of the memory bandwidth.
SCSI:able to provide 5 MBytes/sec. More than 1.7 MBytes/sec.
Disk:able to provide 6.3 MBytes/sec. More than 1.7 MBytes/sec.
OS: overhead: this should not be that much, since the 1.7 MBytes/sec don't
change significantly if you use smaller block sizes for the read command.
Nothing here gives a hint about the bottleneck. So where is it?
Or is it the disk anyway? Possible reason might be that the disk is only
optimized for synchronous transfer and implements a rude, small, silly way
of asynchronous transfer. (Sorry if I mixed up synchronous/asynchronous
transfer modes, I can never remember which is the 10 MB/sec and which is the
5 MB/sec mode).
What's the experience of other users of black hardware? Any difference with
Turbo machines? With Cubes? Anyone written a driver that is (significantly)
faster?
Bye,
Uli
--
"Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16."
From: jr@sade (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: pscat: trouble reading .ct file
Date: 25 May 1995 11:50:54 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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Hi,
always get this message when typing 'pscat' without options. Should
generate a PS header for TIMES font to stdout. Everything seems to be
in the right place. Taking the same .ct file from my black HW using
the -F option works fine. Are there special environment variables etc.
necessary?
Any help appreciated.
Jochen Richter
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 27 May 1995 00:04:49 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Message-ID: <3q5qb1$91b@newstand.syr.edu>
References: <3q01ct$e88@newshost.fiu.edu> <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu> <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu> <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
Jerry Kuch <gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>In article <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>,
>Terry R. McConnell <mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu> wrote:
>>In article <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>,
>>Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>Yes, but it's a demo that stops working after a while.
>
>Either you're mistaken, or I'm mistaken. The OmniWeb demo isn't time
>limited or crippled in any way as far as I had understood. I think that
>the licence allowed one free copy with additional copies at a site to
>be purchased on top of it.
>
Well, sort of both. We have about 10 machines on a local network and the
version of OmniWeb we downloaded had a licence that expired on April 15th.
After that only one person on the network could use it at one time. As
far as I'm concerned, that's crippled. ( Unfortunately, the one person using
it always seemed to be someone other than me :-()
>>By the way, I solved my Web browsing problem by installing the McGill X
>>distribution and running Mosaic.
>
>Not to malign Mouse's port of X, but I'd like to take this opportunity
>to malign X itself. Installing X to run Mosaic when OmniWeb exists as an
>alternative is like giving yourself cancer in order to eat hospital
>Jell-O.
>
And not to malign OmniWeb either -- it's a great browser. It's hard to beat
the price of X, though.
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
************************************************************************
From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dots.app with Epson Color Stylus?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 26 May 1995 16:43:54 GMT
Organization: Emory University
Message-ID: <3q50ga$eko@moe.cc.emory.edu>
References: <3pq7a3$gu2@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Gerard Philippe Menos (gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
: Hello. Anyone using the Epson Color Stylus with the Dots driver? Can
: you get up to 7200x720 print resolution? Are you getting the
: "jaggies?" I'm interesting in buying the driver, but it seems
: expensive (about $180) unless it really works well....
: Thanks for any information (by email please)...
: Phil
: G. Philippe Menos
: gpmenos@princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
: Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
: voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
I'm using in the exact combination with NS/FIP. The only problem is that
when I print at 720x720 dpi, the swapping gets enourmous and slows down
the system preformance. I'm uisng 486DX2/66 with 32MB RAM. Everything other
than swapping (just natural for printing true color at 720 dpi, you know),
is fine and I'm really saticified with the print-outs. Of course, it's not
compalable to a thermal wax or other high end color pritnters, though.
I don't know what you mean by "jaggies" since we are in NeXTSTEP world
whrer all outputs are postscript.
Satoru Uzawa, suzawa@unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: guptaa@alleg.edu (ANI )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,
Subject: ## Need networking help for multiOS machine ##
Date: 26 May 1995 20:19:32 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q5d4k$eeo@mustang.alleg.edu>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, Windows, networking
Hello,
I am running an Intel Pentium90 machine with NEXTSTEP, and a 100M DOS
partition. It has a dedicated Net connection (A college machine) and has an
Ethernet card. What I would like to know is if there is any way I could connect
the DOS/Windows(latest version of both) to the net as well, considering I have
all the required hardware (or do I need something more?). Forgive me for asking
a seemingly uninformed question. I am new to the network programming
environment.
From what I have been able to gather all I should need is a driver for DOS to
communicate with the card. I need to be able to run Netscape on it, because I
am going to be working in the VRML environment. I realize from the Netscape
FAQs that I need Winsock/Trumpet. I have downloaded that but the
something.ini(?) file gets messed up and doesn't install. I would think that is
because of the lack of the driver. I am more or less clueless about the DOS
enviroment.
Anyone who understands what I am talking about please help!! I would be very
grateful. Please reply directly to my account, guptaa@alleg.edu, for I do not
frequent these groups often.
Thanks.
-Ani.
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From: sean@posgate.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 27 May 1995 04:57:19 GMT
Organization: Posgate. APANA in the ACT 06 285 1701
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q6bff$9p9@posgate.apana.org.au>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Organisation: None
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
>>
>> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
>> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
>> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
>> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
>> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
>>
>> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
>> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
>> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
>> in no time at all.
Where can I buy it? How much does it cost? I've got an Alpha too, but until
now I've been using POV.
Sean Keogh - Sean@posgate.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <D97yJA.GEE@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3q5knu$br6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 04:16:22 GMT
In article <3q5knu$br6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>,
Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote:
>In article <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
>gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch) writes:
>[ ]
>
>I don't think you'd find too many X advocates here, but I must point out
>that NetSurfer is an excellent alternative to OmniWeb and OmniImage. In
>addition it will soon have news reading capabilities. The educational price
>is very reasonable, as is the commercial version and the support is great.
I played with it briefly but haven't been hooked yet. Although I kind of
like the visual aspect of the file folder hotlist, I still really like
OmniWeb's hierarchicacl bookmarks page (although I wish they'd kept the
little ribbon bookmark icons from the pre-release rather than those weird
lightning-bolt/sperm things that the release version has). Further, I
found the way that status information on transfers gets stuck into the same
view as the document itself to be a bit annoying. A toolbar-based status
indicator seems nicer to me... I should give it a more extensive try when
I actually have free time again.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Generating PostScript Level1 Output
Date: 26 May 1995 21:34:21 GMT
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <3q5hgt$2a7i@ftp.univie.ac.at>
Thanks for any clues on this one: I'm running NextStep 3.0 black and can't
get it to generate anything but Postscript Level 2 output; selecting level 1
printers etc. does apparently not help. THX.
---------------------------=================---------------------------
Michael F. Alexander Michael.Alexander@serv.univie.ac.at
---------------------------=================---------------------------
From: davep@access2.digex.net (Dave Paige)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Followup-To: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Date: 27 May 1995 14:49:35 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q7e5v$na2@news3.digex.net>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk> <3q6bff$9p9@posgate.apana.org.au>
sean@posgate.apana.org.au wrote:
: In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
: Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
: >
: >> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
: >>
: >> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
: >> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
: >> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
: >> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
: >> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
: >>
: >> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
: >> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
: >> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
: >> in no time at all.
: Where can I buy it? How much does it cost? I've got an Alpha too, but until
: now I've been using POV.
: Sean Keogh - Sean@posgate.apana.org.au
If your Alpha box is running Windows NT your're all set. You just need to find
a distributor in you country. Or you could call me at work in the US at
301-942-6800, Washington Professional Systems, we're a Newtek dealer.
Dave Paige
davep@access.digex.net
From: michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXTIME Movies?
Date: 27 May 1995 15:30:14 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3q7gi6$9pt@corporate.hesta.com>
Is there an archive somewhere of movies that will play using nextime?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3q01ct$e88@newshost.fiu.edu> <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu> <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:18:46 GMT
In article <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>,
Terry R. McConnell <mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu> wrote:
>In article <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>,
>Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
>>>
>
>Yes, but it's a demo that stops working after a while.
Either you're mistaken, or I'm mistaken. The OmniWeb demo isn't time
limited or crippled in any way as far as I had understood. I think that
the licence allowed one free copy with additional copies at a site to
be purchased on top of it.
>By the way, I solved my Web browsing problem by installing the McGill X
>distribution and running Mosaic.
Not to malign Mouse's port of X, but I'd like to take this opportunity
to malign X itself. Installing X to run Mosaic when OmniWeb exists as an
alternative is like giving yourself cancer in order to eat hospital
Jell-O.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Printing rtf files
In-Reply-To: par@MCS.COM's message of 18 May 1995 14:41:51 -0500
Message-ID: <RDL.95May27141106@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3pg7tv$qmg@Venus.mcs.com>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 18:11:06 GMT
Yes, it's:
% open -p filename.rtf
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: dcl@panix.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: pscat: trouble reading .ct file
Date: 26 May 1995 11:03:43 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3q4qkf$7tr@panix.com>
References: <3q1quu$789@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
In <3q1quu$789@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> jr@sade (Jochen Richter) writes:
>always get this message when typing 'pscat' without options. Should
>generate a PS header for TIMES font to stdout. Everything seems to be
>in the right place. Taking the same .ct file from my black HW using
>the -F option works fine. Are there special environment variables etc.
>necessary?
I found that I would get this message every time I tried to
do a "man -t" after installing NSFIP 3.3. For some reason
that I was not able to determine, the font.ct files from the
CD were not usable by pscat (for the Times-Roman font).
I first tried to use the addtroff.sh script found in
/usr/lib/transcript/troff.font, but I couldn't get it
to work properly. Eventually, I just used it as a template
for what should be going on, and did it by hand.
As I recall, the basic sequence was:
1. mkdir Times
2. pscatmap Times
3. cp the ft*, font.head and Times.ct files to Times
4. mv Times/Times.ct Times/font.ct
5. make some hard links between the Times/ft* files
Check the addtroff.sh script for details.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Bootable Floppy Script
Date: 25 May 1995 01:49:02 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3q0nme$5q9@newstand.syr.edu>
I tried making a bootable 2.88 meg floppy using the script available at
ftp.cs.orst. The script ran ok (NS 3.2 black), but I had to make some
links and the devs by hand, probably because the script couldn't
find my /dev --> /private/dev directory.
At any rate, it does boot me up to single user mode. But then I have
a problem. The root directory is mounted read-only and the command
#/etc/mount -o remount /
won't remount it as per the entry in /etc/fstab:
/dev/fd0a / rw,noquota,removable ...[couple of other things I don't remember].
I get the error message
mount: / directory not found.
This is puzzling. How can the root directory not be found? I can mount
filesystems using the -n option ( which is necessary since you can't write
mtab on the read-only filesystem.)
Any ideas?
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
************************************************************************
From: naj@fraxinus.fast.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 26 May 1995 16:52:03 GMT
Organization: FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet Services
Message-ID: <3q50vj$i7v@nn.fast.net>
References: <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>
In article <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu> mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R.
McConnell) writes:
> In article <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>,
> Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >Hello,
> > But I thought I saw OmniWeb for free on ftp.orst.cs.edu or some such
> >site ?!?!? Am I mistaken ?
> >
>
> Yes, but it's a demo that stops working after a while.
No, no, no. The release version of OmniWeb (and OmniFilter, etc) is still free
(single-license) and _NOT_ time-bombed (unless we get a surprise some months
down the road ;-) So by all means, grab it off the archives.
Naj.
--
Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart.
-- Ecclesiastes: 9:7
M. `Naj' Najarian Fraxinus Research Services P.O.B. 65 Kutztown, PA 19530
vox/tape: 610.756.6888 fax/data: 610.756.6400 email: fraxinus@fast.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: UUCP accouting
Message-ID: <D8xIFK.FG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 12:52:32 GMT
Hi,
I receive a few mail a week that are simply UUCP accounting. It tells me
how many dials up I made, for how long, etc... and try to calculate the
overall cost. Only it takes a null value for the cost per minute,
therefore, the overall cost is zero (which is unfortunately not true).
Does anyone know where (in what file) I could change this null value so it
could really calculate the overall week cost ?
Thanks a lot
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 14:45:18 EDT
From: <LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <95146.144518LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT newbie need help - How to recover destroyed directory ?
Hi there! I managed to get myself into trouble by destroying an
entire directory (instead of a single). Are there any utilities
around that I can used to recover/parital recover the files ? I have
not written to the hard drive since. On most other OS's, the data is
still somewhere and there are utilities to scan the HD for data.
Please email me - as I do not read this newsgroup. Thanks in advance.
(otherwise I wouldn't be a newbie. :)
K. C. Lee
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 26 May 1995 22:29:18 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q5knu$br6@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch) writes:
[ ]
> Not to malign Mouse's port of X, but I'd like to take this opportunity
> to malign X itself. Installing X to run Mosaic when OmniWeb exists as an
> alternative is like giving yourself cancer in order to eat hospital
> Jell-O.
I don't think you'd find too many X advocates here, but I must point out
that NetSurfer is an excellent alternative to OmniWeb and OmniImage. In
addition it will soon have news reading capabilities. The educational price
is very reasonable, as is the commercial version and the support is great.
> --
> Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
> IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
> brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
> week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HOW TO COMPILE libg++-2.6.2
Date: 25 May 1995 04:38:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3q11ki$ihi@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I have complied gcc-2.6.3 but there is not a NeXT configure file.
Has anyone done it or know how?
gracia
pc
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <3q11ki$ihi@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Control: cancel <3q11ki$ihi@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: 26 May 1995 14:14:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3q4nne$okc@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: problems with loginwindow dying
Date: 25 May 1995 15:10:26 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q26l2$efe@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
We've recently had a series of problems on many of our Nextstep
machines. The problem is independent of hardware (occurring so far on
a 25 MHz cube, 25 MHz slab, Color turbo, and 100 MHz Pentium). In each
case, upon logout, no login window appears. Checking
/usr/adm/messages shows they all contain similar messages:
May 24 12:53:33 slide loginwindow[267]: loginwindow: Workspace exited
ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
May 24 16:14:22 mossy loginwindow[186]: loginwindow: Workspace exited
ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
May 24 15:13:49 spike loginwindow[186]: loginwindow: Workspace exited
ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
May 24 15:30:17 dendrite loginwindow[249]: Workspace exited (ts 0 cd 0
rc 0 sv 0 ss 0).
May 24 15:30:19 dendrite loginwindow[249]: creating new loginImage
All the machines are running 3.2, except the 100 MHz Pentium which is
running 3.3. The problems started occurring shortly after receiving
and adding the 3.3 Pentium to our network; we have 3 other Intel-based
machines (2 Pentiums's and 1 486). The hardware on the new Pentium is a
little different from our other Intel machines (Symbios Logic SCSI
Adapter, eMASTER+ EM960 PCI, ELSA WINNER Display Adapter), but I don't
see how that could affect other machines. I'm also not sure how a 3.3
machine could cause a problem on those running 3.2. There have been
no changes to applications running on any of the machines. The
problem is also independent of who was logged in last and what
applications they ran.
In short, I'm baffled and am asking for help to try to correct this
problem.
Thanks,
rick
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Anyone using DPT 2022 under NS Intel?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD94xnM.LEH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:04:34 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom10.netcom.com
Hi,
Anyone out there using this SCSI controller? Is it in a continuous use
setting? Have you had ANY problems at all? Do you have FAST devices
connect to it? What is the ROM BIOS revision on the board? Which
NS driver are you using? Which ECU settings are you using? What type
of cabling are you using? Are you using active or passive termination?
Thanks for any info.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: echelon@ix.netcom.com (Gary Flint)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Running WINDOWS on a NEXT???
Date: 25 May 1995 16:47:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q2cai$7fj@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
I have a NeXT.
I want to junk my PC and MAC...
and be able to run Windows and MAC software on my NeXT.
Possible???
If so... how...
e-mail preferred.
gratis!
From: Alex Honor <honor@ccf.arc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT service and/or parts reseller
Date: 25 May 1995 17:14:41 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Message-ID: <3q2du1$r7r@onramp.arc.nasa.gov>
Hi,
I just received a broken NeXT from FedEx :-( The upside
is they are willing to fix or replace it. I called Bell
Atlantic and they told me that they only service machines
under warranty. Does anyone know of another place I can
get repair or parts quotes from?
I need a new 17" monitor and NeXT station CPU case cover
and cooling fan. I tell you, it is a credit to the quality
of NeXT manufacturing that the thing even boots up after
its violent journey.
Thanks, Alex
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
In-Reply-To: kafkouli@fiu.edu's message of 24 May 1995 19:28:29 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May24214102@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3q01ct$e88@newshost.fiu.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 01:41:02 GMT
Lighthouse Design is selling an academic CD-ROM that has OmniWeb and
*ALL* of their applications for $89. This is an absolutely fantastic
deal for the academic community.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: Noah <noah@ark.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:01:53 GMT
Organization: Noah Arkwright & Sons, Ltd.
Sender: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950528170153.215AACUG.malc@daneel>
References: <3pc1r8$ljg@saba.info.ucla.edu> <3pd249$846@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
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> > Does anyone know if it is possible to extend the choice of units
> > of measurement available under NEXTSTEP?
> >
> > Preferences and most apps (in PageLayout) offer cm, inches, points,
> > and picas.... which seems pretty limited.
> >
> Limited? What else did you have in mind? Angstroms? Parsecs? Kalpas?
>
> Those four options cover everything that has ever been requested
> in our word processing and page layout apps. Upon a few minutes'
> reflection, I can't even think of any other standards.
>
Cubits.
You wouldn't believe how much of a pain it is trying to get our boat fitted
out to the Lord's specifications when we've got to keep converting to and
from feet and inches.
Shalom,
N.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Any NS systems integrators/ systems administrators in Boston area?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD96qwJ.8Lq@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 12:33:55 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom16.netcom.com
Hi,
Looking for companies or individuals who can provide these services
in the greater Boston area. Thanks for any info.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 24 May 1995 23:40:50 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com>
What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
Zia
zia@mcs.net
From: bchin@nikita (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PC Graphics Cards Performance
Date: 28 May 1995 18:59:37 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qah6p$8hp@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950526000004.19676B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
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<eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu> wrote:
>I am planning to upgrade my PC system during the summer. what I'd like to
>know is, given all the reviews in magazines for PC DOS/Windows system of
>Graphics Adapters, how do I tell (or perhaps a hint?) that a graphics
>card would yield good performance under NeXTSTEP Intel? I've heard some
>graphics adapters are great performers in windows but when it comes to
>NeXTSTEP it crawls like a turtle. Which test(s) should I rely more on to
>make a prediction? Thanx.
MS-Windows based performance numbers have almost no bearing on performance under
NEXTSTEP. That's because many graphics cards these days have built in
acceleration for the simplistic operations in the graphics models of MS-Windows
and the like (OS/2, X). Since NEXTSTEP does not utilize these accelerations
(they would have to accelerate DPS, which is very difficult and not been done
under NEXTSTEP/x86) the only performance difference between PC video cards under
NEXTSTEP is how fast can display memory buffers be moved to video memory and
therefore displayed. I'm not sure, but it's possible that buffers can be moved
within the video frame-buffer... but I don't think so since alpha channel
calculations are done in the main system. Also, since MS-Windows drivers for
even the same chipset can be optimized to take better advantage of the video
chip's acceleration, different cards based on the same video chip can produce
different results under MS-Windows. Under NEXTSTEP however, pretty much all the
driver does is shift the card into linear frame buffer mode, point the system at
it, set up the display, and steps aside. It also handles the shift into and out
of VGA mode (SoftPC, startup/shutdown screens), brightness, and a few other
housekeeping chores. It does not handle the actual display operations (those are
taken care of inside the DriverKit, away from the driver writer's hands). One
major possible optimization is the ability to handle NEXTSTEP's 444 color model.
Since NEXTSTEP's 16 bit color is actually 12 bit color with 4 bit alpha, if the
display driver/video card can handle 444 mode natively, then the system doesn't
have to convert from 444 mode to 555 mode, hence a speed improvement.
Even DOS video performance numbers are not applicable since they are not done in
linear memory framebuffer mode at the resolutions that one would normally run
NEXTSTEP in. So... first, features like VRAM and 64 or 128bit bandwidth video
controller reduce the overhead of the video system, allowing more time for stuff
to be slammed into the video framebuffer from main memory. Faster transfer from
main memory to video memory is extremely important, hence features like fast bus,
low overhead on the bus, more time free on the bus, faster transfers from the
chipset, fast main memory access, etc. help a lot. Finally, since all the actual
crunching of graphics stuff is done by the CPU and main memory, having gobs of
those two resources available (at least, enough of them available) will increase
your video performance.
Clear as mud?
From: zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb related problems - does not display graphics
Date: 24 May 1995 23:38:37 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3q11kd$ao7@Venus.mcs.com>
I have installed OmniWeb WWW Browser on my black hardware running 3.0. It
downloads the graphics but cannot display them -- it marks them with a red
circle and slash. I thought that this may be because of an incorrect filter
but I have not been able to figure out what variable I can tune to get this
to work. Otherwise, this is a cool App!!
Zia Bhatti
zia@mcs.net
From: tHe daNCeR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Colleges using NEXTSTEP?
Date: 26 May 1995 14:46:19 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q4pjr$8jn@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <3p69o4$lvj@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3p69o4$lvj@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
: - >David McElroy <75450.3334@CompuServe.COM> writes:
: - >> I'm trying to find a college program in software engineering (or
: - >> something similar) which uses NEXTSTEP or very NeXT-like concepts.
: - >> Any suggestions?
: - >
: - >There was a recent article to comp.sys.next.announce which suggests
: - >that Mesa Community College (in Mesa Arizona) has some program that
: - >uses NeXTSTEP. Some other colleges used to have lots of NeXT's
: - >available, but I don't know if they still do.
: - >
: - >--
: - >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
: - >ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
: - >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Try allegheny college in Meadville, PA...
Ricardo
--
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Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Date: 26 May 1995 11:59:20 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Message-ID: <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>
References: <3q01ct$e88@newshost.fiu.edu> <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>
In article <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>,
Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
>>
>Hello,
> But I thought I saw OmniWeb for free on ftp.orst.cs.edu or some such
>site ?!?!? Am I mistaken ?
>
Yes, but it's a demo that stops working after a while.
By the way, I solved my Web browsing problem by installing the McGill X
distribution and running Mosaic.
The McGill distribution installs easily and works with a few minor
problems ( e.g. the scroll bars on the xterms don't work.) Unfortunately,
I've been unable to find a Mosaic binary that works properly on my black
'040. One of them bombed with the message "Congratulations, you've discovered
a new bug in Mosaic! " (Gee, thanks :-) All the rest start up with many
complaints about keysyms and then bomb with an error message about being
unable to allocate heap space. ( unless I'm running them as root.) I believe
I have all the permissions set properly on things like /dev/vid0, /dev/kmem,
etc., but I'd appreciate any opinions on what the problem here might be.
My solution is to run Mosaic (or Netscape) remotely on one of our university
hosts with display: set to my own NeXT. This works fine and is completely
free (at least for me :)
Another problem we had with McGill X is that the server doesn't seem to run
on a Turbo, even though the README says it is supposed to. Anybody else
had this problem? Is there a fix?
--
************************************************************************
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mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
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From: cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Tcl/Tk -> OpenStep port ?
Date: 29 May 1995 00:30:47 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3qb4jn$s4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
We have an application written in Tcl/Tk that we'd like to get running as
a native Next OS application. This looks to me like a relatively straight-
forward job, but it might be A LOT easier if there was a Tcl\/Tk2NEXTSTEP
universal translator to which it might be sent in the first instance.
Any information on the existence of such an application will be gratefully
acknowledged and used.
From: john@getafix.demon.co.uk (John Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Services on NS 3.3 and black hardware.
Date: 29 May 1995 00:38:48 +0100
Organization: Demon Internet News Service
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <3qb1i8$1kp@imp.demon.co.uk>
I have a problem with the services menu on NS 3.3 running on black
hardware (turbo colour) and was hoping someone could help me.
I have just installed 3.3 on my next station, and now can not use the
services menu. When I go into preferences menu to select what apps I want
there are no apps listed in the menu to select from.
What is relly puzzling is that the preferences are there as root but not
as a normal user.
In additon I can not use mathematica as a user because it can't use
mathlink, which I suspect is a simptum of the same problem.
Any help would be greatfully appreachiated.
Regards
John Shirlaw.
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Services on NS 3.3 and black hardware.
Date: 29 May 1995 08:56:03 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May29.073637.11511@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3qb1i8$1kp@imp.demon.co.uk>
In article <3qb1i8$1kp@imp.demon.co.uk> john@getafix.demon.co.uk (John
Shirlaw) writes:
> I have a problem with the services menu on NS 3.3 running on black
> hardware (turbo colour) and was hoping someone could help me.
>
> I have just installed 3.3 on my next station, and now can not use the
> services menu. When I go into preferences menu to select what apps I
want
> there are no apps listed in the menu to select from.
Run make_services from the command line; I think it has a debug option as
well, but I don't know what that is.
Services use the ~/.NeXT/services/.applist and ~/.NeXT/services/.lock
files; check permissions on these and on their parent directory.
Paul
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Subject: Re:OmniWeb related problems - does not display graphics
Importance: High
Zia Bhatti writes :
> I have installed OmniWeb WWW Browser on my black hardware
> running 3.0. It downloads the graphics but cannot display them --
> it marks them with a red circle and slash. I thought that this may be
> because of an incorrect filter but I have not been able to figure out
> what variable I can tune to get this to work.
>Otherwise, this is a cool App!!
When I was working with OmniWeb, when it was still free software,
i.e. before it belonged to Lighthouse Design, you had to download
from the same ftp-site some extra software that you had to install in
one of your Library-directories (LocalLibrary, Library, NeXTLibrary,...).
This extra software was for viewing image-formats that are used
on WWW-servers, viewing in the OmniWeb-browser or in a kind
of Viewer.app. I only don't know what have happened in the
meanwhile, since Lighthouse Design bought the software.
The message is: you need extra software. I only don't know where
you can get it today, allthough Lighthouse Design should be a
great place to start your investigation.
Stefan Bossuwe
Object Oriented Software Engineer
Belgium-Luxembourg
<STEFAN.BOSSUWE@cedellux.tmailuk.sprint.com>
From: Simon Durrant <zack@silly.tau.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: making a bootable disk
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 19:03:07 +0300
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91-heb-2.05.950529185745.27451B-100000@silly.tau.ac.il>
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Does anyone know how to make a disk bootable, once all the software in
the root partition has been placed on the disk. In other words how do you
build the bootblock area in the disk partition, so that at booting the
kernel can be found on the disk.
Any help appreciated
SCD.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby)
Subject: Re: Adding units (cm/inches...) to NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1995May27.203652.6237@rdbois.uucp>
Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby)
Organization: S.RUBY
References: <3pvfpu$lr6@shelob.afs.com>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 20:36:52 GMT
In article <3pvfpu$lr6@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> Call me slow - but now I get it. 8^) You're right, WriteUp automatically
> adjusts its rulers depending on the scale of a view, but that does not
> address the issue of how users _input_ measurements. Yes, millimeters
> are just tenths of centimeters, but if MM is the natural unit for a task,
> mental division gets old after a while.
>
Sorry but MM means Mega Mega (and therefore is not a unit) the correct symbol
for millimeter is mm
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de(Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Software reading ASCII text
Date: 27 May 1995 10:21:35 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <3q6uff$26g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wetherij@cuug.ab.ca (Wetherill)
Subject: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 20:27:48 GMT
I have a stack of Amiga disks which contain ASCII files. I need
these files on my NeXT, and I don't have access to an Amiga anymore,
Does any any means exists which would allow me to insert an
Amiga disk into my floppy drive and convert the files.
As a last resort I will track down an Amiga and save the files in
DOS format, but some way to do it directly would be much more
convenient.
For what it's worth, the files were created on an Amiga 1000 with
version 1.3 of Amiga DOS (or whatever it's called).
Please email responses.
John Wetherill
wetherij@cuug.ab.ca
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problem: -NXHost and copy/paste, Services
Date: 30 May 1995 10:12:24 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qer28$2j5@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
in a talk which I will give this Friday I have to demonstrate OCR character
recognition on a NeXT system. Unfortunately, the software (OCRServant) is not
licensed on my machine, but on another NeXT. So I would like to use the
-NXHost flag to run OCRServant from my machine and demonstrate how easy all
that is on a NeXT.
My problem is that NONE of the apps which I start on the remote machine with
-NXHost has ANY entries in the Services menu. This is bad because OCRServant
only works through the services.
In addition, if I try to copy or paste on the remote application it crashes
on me. Even simple Edit.app.
Is this a known problem? Am I doing s.th. wrong? Do I have to start another
process/daemon on the remote machine (I tried make_services: no success)? Any
pointers? Any help??
Thanks a lot in advance,
Helmut
P.S.: man pages, NeXT's WWW site, the on-line docu, none turned up any hints
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 29 May 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3qbhoe$7cj@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
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news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
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news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
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address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
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files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
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To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you convert RTFD to HTML?
Date: 29 May 1995 00:39:53 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qbj6p$21i@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
What is the best way to convert RTFD files to HTML? Thanks. Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: making a bootable disk
Message-ID: <D9DDyJ.B91@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <Pine.SGI.3.91-heb-2.05.950529185745.27451B-100000@silly.tau.ac.il>
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 02:37:30 GMT
In article <Pine.SGI.3.91-heb-2.05.950529185745.27451B-100000@silly.tau.ac.il>,
Simon Durrant <zack@silly.tau.ac.il> wrote:
>Does anyone know how to make a disk bootable, once all the software in
>the root partition has been placed on the disk. In other words how do you
>build the bootblock area in the disk partition, so that at booting the
>kernel can be found on the disk.
>
disk(8) will do this, either form the command line or in interactive mode.
It's in the man page.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Getting Started with Renderman
Message-ID: <D9DJF6.Hz5@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 04:35:29 GMT
Although I don't really have time to muck with it in the near future, I am
curious about how to take advantage of the bundled Renderman software in
NEXTSTEP 3.2. Can anybody recommend books, on-line documentation and
front-end type utilities that could get me up and fiddling with it? My
rendering needs are basically recreational, but it's unclear where I should
start...
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: black SCSI speed
Message-ID: <1995May28.084120.26940@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <D8xptA.MD6@zoodle.robin.de>
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 08:41:20 GMT
uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) wrote:
>Hi!
>after acquiring a new harddisk I was just a bit disappointed to the
speed
>that the SCSI port of my NeXTstation is able to deliver. Using direct
>disk I/O (disk /dev/rsd2a with read command, block size & count 128)
I got
>about 1.6 to 1.7 MBytes/sec. Since the drive (a Connor 4GB disk) is
able
>to provide over 5 MBytes/sec I would like to get a bit more than
that.
>I do know that the SCSI interface of the NeXTstation has a
theoretical
>maximum of 5 MBytes/sec (other than full SCSI-II with 10 MBytes/sec),
but
>1.7 is just a third of this theoretical maximum. I'm pretty sure the
disk
>itself is faster: The German computer magazine C't just got a
transfer rate
>on the outside of the disk of ~6300 KBytes/sec with that drive, so
the disk
>itself is even almost 4 times as fast as it is on the NeXT. This
definitely
>is not buffer->host transfer rate, but rather disk surface->host
transfer
>rate.
>Now where is that bottleneck. Let's see:
>RAM: 32 bit wide, 100 ns, gives a maximum rate of 40 MBytes/sec.
Should be
> enough.
>CPU: close to that, we do have DMA anyway, so it's not the CPU bus
itself.
>DMA: should be able to get more than 4 % of the memory bandwidth.
>SCSI:able to provide 5 MBytes/sec. More than 1.7 MBytes/sec.
>Disk:able to provide 6.3 MBytes/sec. More than 1.7 MBytes/sec.
>OS: overhead: this should not be that much, since the 1.7 MBytes/sec
don't
> change significantly if you use smaller block sizes for the read
command.
>Nothing here gives a hint about the bottleneck. So where is it?
>Or is it the disk anyway? Possible reason might be that the disk is
only
>optimized for synchronous transfer and implements a rude, small,
silly way
>of asynchronous transfer. (Sorry if I mixed up
synchronous/asynchronous
>transfer modes, I can never remember which is the 10 MB/sec and which
is the
>5 MB/sec mode).
>What's the experience of other users of black hardware? Any
difference with
>Turbo machines? With Cubes? Anyone written a driver that is
(significantly)
>faster?
>Bye,
>Uli
>--
>"Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei
mit 16."
Here we go again :-)
If you know the rotational speed of your disk and know how many
sectors per track the disk have, you can calculate the maximum
sustained speed.
Example:
My disk is a 600 meg CDC
disk> la
label information: print, write? p
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: Disk
disk name: CDC 94191-15-512
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 1632 ntrack 15 nsect 26 rpm 3600
sector_size 1024 etc...
maximum sustained= 26*1024*60 or 1,597,440 bytes per second
real speed:
root@free> /bin/time dd < /dev/rsd0a > /dev/null bs=64k count=100
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
4.4 real 0.0 user 0.5 sys
root@free> bc
100*64*1024/4.4 = 1,489,455 bytes per second
Difference:
6.76 %
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT slab needed ugrently
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950530091626.14788C-100000@eddie>
Sender: news@cdf.toronto.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:17:43 GMT
We are looking for a used Monitor Saver for NeXT station (68040
processor). Monitor Saver is made by Cypress Computer. We called them to
order it, but were told that this product for black hardware is no longer
produced. They manufacture it now only for Intel based machines. We were
just wondering if someone has Monitor Saver for black hardware and is
willing to sell it to us. We desperately need this piece of hardware.
Please respond ASAP.
Thanx in advance.
Alex.
From: dszalpha@hp4.cbs.dk (Michael Busted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What paint should I use on a NeXTcube!!
Date: 30 May 1995 13:09:16 GMT
Organization: News Server at UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education.
Message-ID: <3qf5ds$50l@news.uni-c.dk>
Could somebody tell me what kind of spray paint I should use to paint
my old NeXTcube?
Please e-mail.
Michael B.
dszalpha@hp4.cbs.dk
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: changing default icons
Date: 30 May 1995 12:17:05 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3qf2c1$d9i@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
NextStep lets me choose the default app that starts up when I
double-click on a file, but how do I change the icon that WM
associates with those files?
My problem is that a 3D program has usurped the .tex extension, and
now I get a brick wall instead of the TeXView icon.
Dave
From: herding@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bernd Herding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! Monitor Saver for NeXT slab needed ugrently
Date: 30 May 1995 15:12:39 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3qfcl7$8ma@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950530091626.14788C-100000@eddie>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Granovski Dmitri <g3grand@cdf.toronto.edu> writes:
>We are looking for a used Monitor Saver for NeXT station (68040
>processor). Monitor Saver is made by Cypress Computer. We called them to
>order it, but were told that this product for black hardware is no longer
>produced. They manufacture it now only for Intel based machines.
The piece to power down the monitor on a running NeXT, right?
Those at CC who are responsible for stopping support for black HW
are fools. Everyone I know who's working on black HW would like
to have one... :-(
Bernd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 May 1995 10:21:35 GMT."
<3q6uff$26g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Message-ID: <199505301532.LAA24312@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Cc: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 11:32:23 -0400
In message <3q6uff$26g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>you write:
>Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
[...]
Such software does exist in the public domain. Check out rsynth on
the archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu). Whether its voice is reasonable
or not is for you to decide. ;')
--Eric
---
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Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922
University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018
Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/
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From: glover@tree.egr.uh.edu (John Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Touch screen (correction)
Date: 30 May 1995 19:30:41 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <3qfrp1$bnb@masala.cc.uh.edu>
Sorry about that last post, but my reply-to address somehow
got messed up. The question was:
Can anyone recommend a touch screen for use with NEXTSTEP
on a 486, and does it work "seamlessly"?
--
John R. Glover
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Houston
glover@uh.edu
From: jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James R. Merideth-Webb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help with Slab setup
Date: Sat, 27 May 95 14:18:23 PST
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
Message-ID: <3q81de$c0a@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I recently purchased a NeXTstation. It was previously configured
as a workstation in an academic lab, which did a remote boot from
a server in another lab. I was able to get it to boot from the
internal 170 MG drive,but the existing setup is VERY bare bones,
like no digital librian or NeXT apps.
I have NeXTStep 3.1 CD ROM and floppy to re-install the OS and
development environment, but would like suggestions on the
following;
1. Any suggestions on how(or where I might find instructions) to
reformat the internal drive(perphaps add an additional drive) and
setup a generic configuration of OS and develoment environment.
2. I've downloaded the hardware compatibility list
from NeXT.com, but hardware recommendations based
on personal experience would be appreciated.
3. Any information on repair,service or component vendors for
future purchases.
Please e-mail responses to jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu. Thanks.
From: glover@tree.egr.uh.edu (John Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Touch screen
Date: 30 May 1995 19:27:45 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <3qfrjh$bf3@masala.cc.uh.edu>
Can anyone recommend a touch screen for use with NEXTSTEP
on a 486, and does it work "seamlessly"?
--
John R. Glover
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Houston
glover@uh.edu
From: guptaa@alleg.edu (ANI )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pentium90 NS 3.3, DOS config query
Date: 30 May 1995 21:43:24 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qg3hs$rp@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hello all,
I am new to networking. I need to know how to get this information from my
machine which is an Intel Pentium 90, 16M RAM and 800+M HD, running NS3.3, with
a DOS partition. It has an EtherExpress 16C ethernet card at port 300, IRQ 11.
If anyone is familiar with this configuration please send me this info to my
account (I do not visit this newsgroup often.)
How do I find :
1. The name of the "packet driver" with the ethernet card?
2. The packet vector number (In Hex, like 0x <number>)?
3. The I/O number/address (Hex, same, 0x <number>)?
4. Name server IP address (For DNS searches)?
In case you didn't realize I am trying to set up Trumpet Winsock 2.0 to be able
to connect DOS to the network, which is a TCP/IP 56kps connection. If anyone
else has ever tried to do the same, for whatever reason, your help would be
invaluable.
Thanks.
-Ani.
guptaa@alleg.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SLIP/PPP providers for NeXT?
Date: 30 May 1995 17:58:38 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qg4ee$shh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi all,
I may soon be loosing my university account and want to find a good and
cheap SLIP or PPP provider. If anyone out there in the NeXT community is
happy with their provider or if you can just give me a list or pointer to
providers, I would certainly appreciate it.
Thanks, Later, John
(If it matters, I'm interested in providers that can help out in Rochester, NY
and Central/Northern NJ areas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Yue-Herng Lin" <yhlin@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: SB16 driver bug on NS 3.3 x86??
Message-ID: <1995May26.023007.15094@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 02:30:02 -0500
Hello all,
I just got NS 3.3 x86 installed on my machine few days ago and encountered
a problem. After I installed SB16 driver, no matter how I tried, as soon as
I played some demo sounds, the system just got crashed. Is there any bug
in SB16 driver?? Or is there any trick of setting up the driver??
Thanks,
YH
From: cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pentium90 NS 3.3, DOS config query
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:47:47
Organization: Fibernet means business!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <cpayne.46.0015CC36@fiber.net>
References: <3qg3hs$rp@mustang.alleg.edu>
>In case you didn't realize I am trying to set up Trumpet Winsock 2.0 to be able
>to connect DOS to the network, which is a TCP/IP 56kps connection. If anyone
>else has ever tried to do the same, for whatever reason, your help would be
>invaluable.
Why would somebody want to do this?
Reminds me of the time my brother had to sell his Ferrari 264. The buyer said
he'd only buy a running car, not a non-running project. So, my bro popped in
a VW Type IV engine. He sold it because it ran, but...
I didn't understand my brother, either, so maybe it's a bad example...
Carl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:38:30 GMT
In article <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>, Wetherill <wetherij@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
>I have a stack of Amiga disks which contain ASCII files. I need
>these files on my NeXT, and I don't have access to an Amiga anymore,
>Does any any means exists which would allow me to insert an
>Amiga disk into my floppy drive and convert the files.
>
I was thinking of writing one of these; does anybody else want one? Do you
want the Boing ball or the check mark in the icons? :-)
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kathleen@quark.den.mmc.com (Kathleen A Litton)
Subject: NextStep Utilities
Message-ID: <kathleen-300595120704@160.205.102.21>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@news2.den.mmc.com (News Admin)
Organization: Lockheed Martin
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 18:14:26 GMT
I am posting for a co-worker who is in the process of learning about the
NeXT. He has the following question:
Asking for help to determine availability of a utility for use with
NeXTStep Developer 3.3. Utility needs to gang multiple verticle linear
arrays together within a Window View. Associate one vertical and one
horizontal slider with the View. Capability to add at least two header
lines and two footer lines per each vertical array within the View. Width
of each array within the View determined by maximum element size in that
array. Capability to change styles within the View (e.g. Font, Font Size,
Justification, Color, etc.)
Would appreciate a point of contact. Thank you for you help.
Respond to the newslist or directly to me at
kathleen@quark.den.mmc.com
Kathleen Litton, Sr. Software Engineer, Lockheed Martin, Denver, CO
1-303-971-6756
From: mallen@unseen2.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Is it worthwhile to upgrade?
Date: 31 May 1995 20:14:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <3qiimp$bjk@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Followups-To: mallen@nwu.edu
I have a NeXTCube, which I love very much. I have now used all but 11.7MB on
my original HD and only have 8 MB of RAM. Is it worth it to upgrade my memory
and hard drive, or should I just move on to a Sun or HP?
Can people with NeXTstep running on a Sun or HP advise me on what they like
and dislike, and I'm interested how people with cubes who did move to Suns or
HP's think its better or worse.
P.S. Suggestions for specific machines would be appreciated.
--
mallen@nwu.edu -- (KoX since 1995) -- PGP public key on key-servers
"All we seem to be fed is a diet of: 'this is true, I don't have to PROVE it,
if you don't believe it like I do, then there is something wrong with you'"
Jeff Hartley (jeff@jhartley.demon.co.uk) about Scientologist proof.
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:51:17 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
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> Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
>
Trillium Research's Text-to-Speech. Contact Leonard Manzara:
manzara@trillium.ab.ca
or maybe...
info@trillium.ab.ca
??
Have fun,
mmalc.
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where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
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From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 31 May 1995 10:53:05 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
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zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
: What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
Different kind :-)
There are 4 NeXTSTEP Newsreader which I'm aware of:
- Newsgrazer, the original NeXTSTEP Newsreader, has no support, and doesn't
run on HP & SPARC Platforms.
- NewsBase, comes with source, nice Interface, but too slow for fast
Newsreading, IMHO
- News, source as well, Beta-release, doesn't allow posting.
- Eloquent, commercial News&Mail-Reader, is said to be good.
Then there are of course the standard free UNIX-Newsreader, which work on
NeXTSTEP.
tin-1.22 (Anyone can help me compiling 1.30b ?)
trn-3.5
gnus (Version whatsoever) needs a working Emacs
... and lots more, like pine, xnews, xvnews (for those who want to play with
X11 as well) ...
Where ?
NeXT-Newsreader: are all on the NeXT-Archives, please consult the NeXT-FAQ,
or the list of NeXTSTEP Resources posted on comp.sys.next.announce
Others: find them with archie, or consult the relevant FAQs (on news.answers)
-daniel
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From: joerd@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Wayne Joerding - Economics)
Subject: KERMIT for NextStep Intel
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Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:47:07 GMT
Organization: Washington State University
Would some kind soul point me to a source for KERMIT that I can use on my
NEXTStep Intel?
Thanks in advance.
Wayne
From: kjones@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Getting Started with Renderman
Date: 31 May 1995 06:26:05 GMT
Organization: Vancouver Regional FreeNet
Message-ID: <3qh25t$kp0@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
References: <D9DJF6.Hz5@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Although I don't really have time to muck with it in the near future, I am
: curious about how to take advantage of the bundled Renderman software in
: NEXTSTEP 3.2. Can anybody recommend books, on-line documentation and
: front-end type utilities that could get me up and fiddling with it? My
: rendering needs are basically recreational, but it's unclear where I should
: start...
Jerry:
I've used Nextstep's 3DKit and Renderman in V3.0 to write a low-end 3D
scene modeler app. If I ever get the documentation done I plan to put it
on the net as freeware.
I think that the standard book for Renderman is "The Renderman Companion"
by Steve Upstill, Addison-Wesley, 1990. It goes for about $40 Canadian at
my local bookstore.
In addition, I found I made extensive use of the on-line docs for the
3DKit classes as provided by Next in its Developer documentation. I found
this source to be OK, but would like to have had access to a more formal
textbook type source explaining the basics of the 3DKit as well. It was a
bit like learning a language with a only a dictionary.
A previous knowledge of 3D computer graphics fundamentals would be of great
help in this regard, something I am lacking in. The fact that I've been
able to get a working app up and running at least says something positive
about Next's documentation.
I don't know of any front-end type utilities for 3DKit/Renderman but
perhaps someone else on the net has seen such things.
I found that 95% of my own 3D app's code consisted of 3DKit class and
function usage with calls to Renderman functions making up the remainder.
The 3DKit seems to be an "objectification" of the Renderman API and I
suspect that many apps can stay at the 3DKit level with only occasional dips
down to Renderman. However, Renderman functions can be called at any time
if desired. A common usage of the latter occurs when a shape needs
to perform its own rendering by calling the Renderman primitive surface
functions.
As a result, for my program at least, a knowledge of Renderman seems to
be secondary to a knowledge of the 3DKit classes. My own mental picture
of 3D space has been formed by how the 3DKit sees the space and the
shapes within it. My knowledge of the same space in Renderman terms is
much less definite. I suspect that users of straight Renderman on other
systems would find Next's 3DKit approach rather different and perhaps
somewhat frustrating, but it seems to work for me.
I haven't played around with writing my own Renderman shaders.
Kieran
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de(Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
Date: 31 May 1995 06:18:54 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <3qh1oe$32c@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <199505301532.LAA24312@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
"Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> writes
:In message <3q6uff$26g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>you write:
:>Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
:[...]
:
:Such software does exist in the public domain. Check out rsynth on
:the archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu). Whether its voice is reasonable
:or not is for you to decide. ;')
I tried it, but there is only noise coming out the speaker, no voice. Any idea? Do I
need a dsp card for this prg? It was originaly programmed for black hardware and I
have an Intel computer.
--
Juergen
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From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: problem in Preferences
Date: 31 May 1995 23:08:16 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3qist0$6o6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Has anyone seen this problem?? It is repeatable on several machines in
our office running 3.3.
If we log in as root, Preferences is auto-launched. If we then
double-click on Preferences to make it the active app, it crashes with no
message in the log file. Double-clicking to relaunch it doesn't work --
it appears to crash almost immediately.
Any feedback would be appreciated. It's a pain not to be able to tailor
the environment for a root user, such as setting UNIX expert to see the
whole file system.
Thanks,
MTN
From: Larry Wu <ke6bfu@rain.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: terminal dial-out prog.
Date: 1 Jun 1995 00:16:12 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
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Is there a dial-out program for the next? I've been trying to figure
out the tip command in unix but have had no luck. Any suggestions?
Larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: petergun@coffeehaus.com (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: Re: black SCSI speed
Message-ID: <D9GI68.BxK@coffeehaus.com>
Organization: >> coffeehaus << " We percolate great ideas. "
References: <D8xptA.MD6@zoodle.robin.de> <1995May28.084120.26940@free.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:01:20 GMT
Fabien Roy (Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org) wrote:
: If you know the rotational speed of your disk and know how many
: sectors per track the disk have, you can calculate the maximum
: sustained speed.
My disk is a 730 meg Quantum
disk> la
disk> la
label information: print, write? p
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: BSDish_Devil
disk name: QUANTUM LIGHTNING 730S
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 3658 ntrack 4 nsect 64 rpm 3600
sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
so, maximum sustained = 64*1024*60 or 3,932,160 bytes per second
real speed:
don_quixote:50# /bin/time dd < /dev/rsd0a > /dev/null bs=64k count=100
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
3.8 real 0.0 user 0.4 sys
which is
100*64*1024/3.8 = 1,724,631 bytes per second
Difference: 43.8%
So ...
Unless Fabian mis-formulated the test ... NeXT *is* slow fro SCSI.
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PS... linux using a 365 MB Quantum of the same class, Adaptec 1542A
controller, Cyrix 25 SX CPU is 1,905,116 bytes per second. So ...
--
petergun
R-name : Stephane I. Matis
E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
Message-ID: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:10:59 GMT
Subject says it all
Cheers
Fabien
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
Date: 31 May 1995 23:43:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
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In article <950531185117.215AACUB.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
> > Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
There's a free program called "say" that does an adequate job. Look
on the standard archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu).
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IBM 0664M1H termination
Message-ID: <3qburg$e94@stern.fokus.gmd.de>
Date: 29 May 95 07:58:40 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Hi,
I am using a 2GB IBM disk (0664M1H) in my TurboColor station. It seems, that
this disk is not properly terminated, because booting is only possible, if I
connect another *terminated* SCSI device to the station. Otherwise I get the
message "No scsi disk".
Do you have any suggetions, how to terminate this disk without loosing my
chance to use other devices on the SCSI bus?
Thanks in advance,
Robert.
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:06:18 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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On Tue, 30 May 1995, David Evans wrote:
> In article <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>, Wetherill <wetherij@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
> >I have a stack of Amiga disks which contain ASCII files. I need
> >these files on my NeXT, and I don't have access to an Amiga anymore,
> >Does any any means exists which would allow me to insert an
> >Amiga disk into my floppy drive and convert the files.
> >
>
> I was thinking of writing one of these; does anybody else want one? Do you
> want the Boing ball or the check mark in the icons? :-)
>
Great idea! Thanks for your efforts in advance!
I'd like to see the rainbow-colored checkmark.
Just another add: Would it be possible to use even the new high
performance DIR-CACHE-DOS (I think DOS 5)? Then I could even connect my
hardrives and mount them!
Best wishes
Boerny (dreaming of an Amiga<->NeXT connectivity)
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) Look at http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de, scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de
'X is what it was designed for --- to open multiple terminal windows.' T.W.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: KERMIT for NextStep Intel
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:11:33 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
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Here is the Location of the main german FTP site (Peanuts):
ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/Kermit.188.I.b.targ.gz
Greetings,
Boerny.
BTW: anybody got the sources for SLIP? I need a SLIP on Intel, but can
only get m86k binaries :(
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'X is what it was designed for --- to open multiple terminal windows.' T.W.
On Wed, 31 May 1995, Wayne Joerding - Economics wrote:
> Would some kind soul point me to a source for KERMIT that I can use on my
> NEXTStep Intel?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Wayne
>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: klaus@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Subject: Re: Dots.app with Epson Color Stylus?
Message-ID: <D9HnH3.8L@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: EverSmile
References: <9505242130.AA04837@cantina.lanl.gov>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:53:27 GMT
In article <9505242130.AA04837@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
writes:
> Phil Menos asks:
>
> > Anyone using the Epson Color Stylus with the Dots driver?
> > Can you get up to 720x720 print resolution? Are you
> > getting the "jaggies?" I'm interesting in buying the
> > driver, but it seems expensive (about $180) unless it
> > really works well....
>
>
Try JetPilot from interpersonal computing info@interpc.de.
It supports the Stylus Color at 720 dpi and all the HP Laser and DeskJets.
The price is round 150$. There is also a special educational pricing available.
You should find it on FTP.
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From: hoff@regen.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Date: 1 Jun 1995 11:44:07 GMT
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In article <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>,
dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes:
>In article <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>, Wetherill <wetherij@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
>>I have a stack of Amiga disks which contain ASCII files. I need
>>these files on my NeXT, and I don't have access to an Amiga anymore,
>>Does any any means exists which would allow me to insert an
>>Amiga disk into my floppy drive and convert the files.
>>
>
> I was thinking of writing one of these; does anybody else want one? Do you
>want the Boing ball or the check mark in the icons? :-)
Boing. :-)
But as much as I think that such a tool would be pretty cool,
I suspect you will have a terrible time writing it, at least
when it comes to the PC floppy drives - I think there's the
different encoding schemes, GCR vs. MFM. Don't know if you can
do it on black, but most likely the kernel will get in the
way (try banging the chips, like in the good ole times :)
unless you write a file system, which isn't that easy or well-
documented either..
I prefer to use NFS, works like a charm with ~350 KB/sec.
Of course, that assumes you have an Ethernet board in your Amy.
Other possibilities would be SLIP, PLIP or PPP.
Holger
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[NeXTmail: YES]; \/__/ - The UNIX Haters Handbook
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it worthwhile to upgrade?
Date: 1 Jun 1995 13:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
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In article <3qiimp$bjk@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@unseen2.acns.nwu.edu
(Mark Allen) writes:
> I have a NeXTCube, which I love very much. I have now used all but
11.7MB on
> my original HD and only have 8 MB of RAM. Is it worth it to upgrade my
memory
> and hard drive, or should I just move on to a Sun or HP?
>
RAM and HD upgrades wouldn't be specific to your NeXTcube (i.e., the
RAM and HD could be moved to another machine so that you could eventually
sell the Cube in its current configuration if that makes sense). So this
sort of expenditure isn't "throwing money down a rathole" as much as, say,
replacing your Cube's monitor.
So if you love your Cube, upgrade it!! You might be surprised how
much it feels like a snappy new machine with 24 MB of RAM :-)
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Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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Date: 1 Jun 1995 18:18:43 GMT
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: problem in Preferences
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Date: 2 Jun 1995 06:35:14 GMT
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Mark_Tyler_Neher (mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com) wrote:
: Has anyone seen this problem?? It is repeatable on several machines in
: our office running 3.3.
: If we log in as root, Preferences is auto-launched. If we then
: double-click on Preferences to make it the active app, it crashes with no
: message in the log file. Double-clicking to relaunch it doesn't work --
: it appears to crash almost immediately.
Last summer I experienced this on my Pentium 66 MHz System. After
installing an additional processor fan, everything was fine (This was
with 3.2, but I don't think there's much difference in this respect).
Sounds odd, but it's real.
Hope that helps.
Axel
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PCI Graphics Boards-NS3.3 ?, Speed, energy saving
Date: 1 Jun 1995 20:16:32 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
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I recently attempted to upgrade my system to a PCI based P() system using a
#9 GXE Pro-2megvram. Unfortunately the board didn't appear to be recognized
and I kept coming up in VGA mode. Is this common for PCI graphics' boards?
At this point I could try again with an ATI mach 64 card, but are there
better one's out there (Diamond?)?
Finally, the speed of the system (P75 with a Triton chipset) seemed sluggish
with my 2 IDE drives and 1 SCSI which I had removed from my current DX4/100
system which runs great (except for Solitaire). Is there something wrong
with using IDE drives with E-IDE?
Dell supplies a #9 Mission graphics' board with its systems (unless you want
the very expensive Imagine) which doesn't appear to work either.
Is there a problem with motherboards which have green features? I know one
can turn them off but that would appear to defeat the purpose!
Any info would be appreciated. Thank's
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: problem in Preferences
In-Reply-To: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com's message of 31 May 1995 23:08:16 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun2000702@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:07:02 GMT
Do you have any custom preferences modules installed in
/LocalLibrary/Preferences or /Library/Preferences? It's also possible that
you have a corrupt defaults database. Preferences may be trying to read a
default that it can't handle. Also, if you have a development environment
installed, try running Preferences using gdb. It may help diagnose the
problem.
Finally, I don't understand why NeXT ships NEXTSTEP with UNIX expert turned
off for root.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@cps.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: License String locking code
Date: 1 Jun 1995 19:26:22 GMT
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To: perkins@cps.msu.edu
Howdy!
A while ago there was mention of some code (or palette/bundle)
that implemented a license string/registration panel for
shareware products.
I'm am interested in looking at this code. Anybody have a
pointer to more information about this (or other
shareware/freeware license/registration facilities)?
TIA,
Steve
P.S. No, this has nothing to do with PPP-2.2.
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Stephen J. Perkins perkins@cps.msu.edu
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
In-Reply-To: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org's message of Wed, 31 May 1995 19:10:59 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun1173509@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:35:09 GMT
I've been using the Alps GlidePoint. It's a very nice solution but takes a
bit of getting used to. It would be nice if someone made a GlidePoint driver
that mapped the pad to the screen so that there is a one to one correspondence
between where your finger is on the pad and where the cursor is on the screen.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Matthias Imhof <mgi@ERL.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: a little story: buying by email
Date: 1 Jun 1995 14:11:29 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3qkhqh$9j8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
the following is what happened and happens to me.
the players are:
my wife and me
david briggman, Paradigm Shift Corp, paradigm@mercury.interpath.net
a common friend, an inbetween
please draw your own conclusions
Juni 21, 1994, 10:26 After some discussion, David Briggman (Paradigm Shift
Corp.) offers me a used machine for $4600.00: DEC XL 560 (60MHz Pentium) with
16MB of RAM, 535MB SCSI, Adaptec 1540, CD-ROM, Viper PCI w/2MB, and DEC's
VRC-16 17" Color Monitor with DEC's three-year warranty for $4600.00.
Juni 23, 1994, 16:45 I offer $3750.00 for the used machine.
Juni 24, 1994, 11:47 David Briggman decides to sell for $3900.00 and gives
me the instructions where to wiretransfer the money to.
Juni 30, 1994, 9:57 I wiretransfer $3900 to Paradigm Shift Coorporation.
Juli 5, 1994 Paradigm Shift disappears from the Internet.
August 2, 1994 David relays through a friend that the computer will be
sent the next day.
August 8, 1994 The friend sends David's private telephone number to
me. Supposedly, David left a message on my answering system. But we never
received this message.
David Briggman never answers his private phone. We reach only his roommate or
the answering machine.
August 16, 1994 David leaves a message on my answering machine. The
computer he wanted to sent me was destroyed in a power failure. The replacement
machine will arrive in a couple of days. He will send it to us immediately.
September 8, 1994 David relays through the friend that the computer is
being sent within the next days.
September 14, 1994 David relays through the friend that the computer is
being sent within the next days.
September 23, 1994 We succeeds to reach David Briggman by telephone. He
offers to return the money plus interests. We decide to wait for some days
more.
September 26, 1994 David Briggmans telephone line is disconnected.
September 28, 1994 Relaying through the friend we let David Briggman know
that we prefer to have the money back.
September 30, 1994 David Briggmans voice mail works again. We leave a
message that we want our money back.
More messages left on voice mail. No reaction.
October 11, 1994, 14:22 The friend sends me the message that David has some
problems with my address. I send our address once more.
More messages left on voice mail.
November 11, 1994 We file a complaint with the Attorney General's Office,
the consumer protection section
December 6, 1995 Consumer Protection sends Paradigm Shift an inquiry
January 5, 1995 We receive a letter from Consumer Protection that
Paradigm Shift sent the refund. We never received the refund.
January 19, 1995 Consumer Protection sends Paradigm Shift an another
inquiry
February 16, 1995 Consumer Protection sends Paradigm Shift an another
inquiry
April 5, 1995 Dave Briggman promises to pay within 30 days
April 6, 1995 Consumer Protection sends Paradigm Shift an another
inquiry
May 9, 1995 We do not receive any refund. Consumer Protection sends
Paradigm Shift an another inquiry
May 21, 1995 David Briggman promises to pay until June 21
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
Date: 1 Jun 1995 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3qkhv8$ah2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <199505301532.LAA24312@slate.cs.rochester.edu> <3qh1oe$32c@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Juergen Grieb (juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de) wrote:
: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> writes
: :In message <3q6uff$26g@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>you write:
: :>Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
: :[...]
: :
: :Such software does exist in the public domain. Check out rsynth on
: :the archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu). Whether its voice is reasonable
: :or not is for you to decide. ;')
: I tried it, but there is only noise coming out the speaker, no voice.
: Any idea? Do I need a dsp card for this prg? It was originaly programmed
: for black hardware and I have an Intel computer.
Wait another day and I'll fetch a version working on Intel systems
from my system at home. There were some minor changes regarding byte
ordering (little/big endian) to do, and it works fine now.
Gregor
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From: cortesr@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP/SLIP
Date: 1 Jun 1995 14:35:40 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qkj7s$mch@mustang.alleg.edu>
What exactly are PPP (Point to Point Protocol) and SLIP (Serial Line IP)?
What are the differences??
thanx..
Ricardo
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Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: wjs@foom.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb related problems - does not display graphics
Date: 31 May 1995 20:00:53 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qjah5$217@foom.omnigroup.com>
References: <0006558B.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS>
<STEFAN.BOSSUWE@CEDELLUX.tmailuk.sprint.com> writes:
>When I was working with OmniWeb, when it was still free software,
>i.e. before it belonged to Lighthouse Design, you had to download
>from the same ftp-site some extra software that you had to install in
>one of your Library-directories (LocalLibrary, Library, NeXTLibrary,...).
OMNIWEB IS STILL FREE! How many times do I have to say this?
Download it freely from:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz
Then freely get:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/graphics/OmniImageFilter-3.2.pkg.tar
And grab our FREE OmniImageFilter to view graphics.
Notice that OmniWeb is free. It doesn't require a license; ergo it is
free. Free, I say. If you want to run multiple copies at a single
site, it costs money for the second machine. But that's still FREE to
one person. If I gave you a car, and you said, "I want another," and
I said, "The second will cost you money," does that make the car I
gave you not free?
It's not a limited version. It's the full thing. Free! And, it
doesn't expire. Use that single free license until you die.
Does that clear everything up?
-Wil Shipley
President
Omni Development, Inc.
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@cps.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Network checking of registered keys
Date: 1 Jun 1995 19:37:35 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3ql4tv$ooa@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
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To: perkins@cps.msu.edu
OmniWeb has a neat feature of being able to determine whether
other versions of itself are running on a network. Thus, you
cannot buy one license string and enable multiple hosts on a
(sub)net.
My question is what mechanisms exist for verifying this on a
network? Meaning, if I was to implement a similar
functionality, how would I query the network to determine this?
I'm not interested in a centralized license server approach.
However, I would like to entertain two approaches:
1) A system level approach where we have access to the raw
network and can send/receive any type of packets.
2) A user level approach (like OmniWeb has) were we only
have access to TCP/UDP (but not RAW) protocols.
I would appreciate hearing any comments people have to offer.
- Steve
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Stephen J. Perkins perkins@cps.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
Message-ID: <1995Jun1.214043.11320@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:40:43 GMT
Subject says it all
Cheers
Fabien
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From: vj@cais.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: terminal dial-out prog.
Date: 1 Jun 1995 15:36:55 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3qkmqn$res@news.cais.com>
References: <3qj0sc$3c6@news.rain.org>
Larry Wu (ke6bfu@rain.org) wrote:
: Is there a dial-out program for the next? I've been trying to figure
: out the tip command in unix but have had no luck. Any suggestions?
: Larry
Insert a line similar to the following in your /etc/remote file
bbsname:at=hayes:br#19200:pn=9933536:du:dv=/dev/cua:pa=none:
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
alias command baud phone # dial serial parity
for set rate up port
number
(You will probably have to edit this file as root)
After this is done type:
tip bbsname
and it should dial it for you. -vijay
P.S.- If you have any problems drop me a note.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
Message-ID: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
From: kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu (Christian Kuhtz)
Date: 2 Jun 1995 12:38:58 -0500
Organization: IS Research Lab, CBA, University of Northern Iowa
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Hi:
we have selected the wrong resultion/frequency when we tried to configure
NEXTSTEP for Intel for use with ATI Mach64 board!
How can we change it back to plain VGA from an ASCII screen?...
Please help!!!!
Thanks!
Chris
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Information Systems Research Lab, College of Business Administration,
University of Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, IA, USA. "My opinion belongs to me."
Visit the Virtual College at http://www.cba.uni.edu/
From: chin@clark.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: a little story: buying by email
Date: 2 Jun 1995 19:28:13 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qnood$fa7@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <3qkhqh$9j8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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Matthias Imhof <mgi@ERL.MIT.EDU> wrote:
[awful story deleted]
When dealing with people or vendors you do not have a rapport with,
always try to:
1) Pay COD or credit card. Preferably a credit card with good
consumer protection policies. Of course, most individuals don't take
credit cards, so COD is usually the best one can do.
2) See #1
3) See #1
4) When possible, inquire as to the credibility of the entity you are
dealing with.
Never part with money before the goods. You wouldn't do that at a
store you walk into, and you definitely shouldn't do it remotely
either. At most, the vendor should get a deposit on a large order to
ensure good faith on your part. Your order isn't that large and the
vendor has already invested capital in the equipment. You, of course,
have legal remedies, but it's best if one never has to resort to that.
From: moonfri@earthlink.net (MoonFri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP & NeXTStep 3.2
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 02:21:13 -0800
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <moonfri-0206950221130001@204.250.38.231>
I am looking for suggestions on loading PPP software on my Black Box NeXT.
I am only looking to connect my NeXT to my local provide using my
Supra14,400 modem and the telephone lines. Is there a simple way to do
this? I don't have much programming experience but have configured my work
Mac for a simple conection. Thank you for your help. Also any sugestions
for locating software would be appreciated.
E-mail moonfri@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Message-ID: <1995Jun2.160400.6034@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:04:00 GMT
References: <3qkj7s$mch@mustang.alleg.edu>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <3qkj7s$mch@mustang.alleg.edu> cortesr@alleg.edu writes:
>What exactly are PPP (Point to Point Protocol) and SLIP (Serial Line IP)?
>
>What are the differences??
And what will work with NS3.3. I am still running NS3.2 because
TransSys claims their 1.13 SLIP release probably will not work with 3.3.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: language instruction programs?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:44:25 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3qnt79$937@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: French language instruction
Please let me know if you know about any language instruction programs for
the NeXT. I need something for the French language.
Thanks.
Jim Beauchamp
j-beauch@uiuc.edu
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From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: black SCSI speed
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References: <D8xptA.MD6@zoodle.robin.de> <1995May28.084120.26940@free.fdn.org> <D9GI68.BxK@coffeehaus.com>
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:30:40 GMT
petergun@coffeehaus.com (Stephane I. Matis) wrote:
>Fabien Roy (Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org) wrote:
>: If you know the rotational speed of your disk and know how many
>: sectors per track the disk have, you can calculate the maximum
>: sustained speed.
>My disk is a 730 meg Quantum
>disk> la
>disk> la
>label information: print, write? p
>current label information on disk:
>disk label version #3
>disk label: BSDish_Devil
>disk name: QUANTUM LIGHTNING 730S
>disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
>ncyls 3658 ntrack 4 nsect 64 rpm 3600
>sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
>so, maximum sustained = 64*1024*60 or 3,932,160 bytes per second
>real speed:
>don_quixote:50# /bin/time dd < /dev/rsd0a > /dev/null bs=64k
count=100
>100+0 records in
>100+0 records out
> 3.8 real 0.0 user 0.4 sys
>which is
>100*64*1024/3.8 = 1,724,631 bytes per second
>Difference: 43.8%
>So ...
>Unless Fabian mis-formulated the test ... NeXT *is* slow fro SCSI.
>: --
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>PS... linux using a 365 MB Quantum of the same class, Adaptec 1542A
>controller, Cyrix 25 SX CPU is 1,905,116 bytes per second. So ...
>--
>petergun
>
>R-name : Stephane I. Matis
>E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
Ok folks,
Here is my last investigation:
Using SCSI_Inspector.app
Inquiry Command
SCSI Target #: 1
Device Type: Hard-Drive
Vendor ID: IBM OEM
Product ID: 0664M1H
Revision: 5 50
ANSI Standard: X.131-198X (SCSI-2)
Relative Addressing: No
32 Bit Wide Transfers: No
16 Bit Wide Transfers: No
Synchronous Transfers: Yes <=============important
Linked Commands: Yes
Tagged Command Queuing: Yes
Soft Reset: No
Mode Parameter Header
Medium Type: Default medium type (00h)
Write Protected: No
Rigid Disk Geometry Page
Number of Heads: 15
Number of Cylinders: 2857
Medium Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
Read Capacity Command
Number of Blocks: 3933040
Block Size: 512
Disc Capacity: 1966520 K (1920.43 MB)
Format Device Page
Sectors per Track: 94
Bytes per Physical Sector: 512
Interleave: 1
Tracks per Zone: 15
Alt. Sectors per Zone: 34
Alt. Tracks per Zone: 0
Alt. Tracks per Logical Unit: 0
Track Skew Factor: 8
Cylinder Skew Factor: 17
Soft Sector Formatting: Not supported
Hard Sector Formatting: Supported
Removable Media: Not supported
Cache Page
Write Cache Enabled: No
Read Cache Enabled: Yes
Disable Prefetch Limit: -1
Prefetch Ceiling (blocks): -1
Min. Prefetch (blocks): 0
Max. Prefetch (blocks): -1
(All calculation are made without counting rotational latency or seek
time)
We need a cylinder approach to handle the alternate spare sectors
(here 34).
Spares sectors are read but not transferred to the host if there are
no errors.
bytes per cylinder = ((94*15)-34)*512 -> 704512
due to the Track Skew Factor of 8 there are 14*8=112 sectors/cylinder
skew, which means that the track is read in 15+(112/94)=16.19
rotations
Theoretical time to read the track (15+(112/94))/90= 180 milisec
Real speed 704512 in 180 milisec or 3,916,012 bytes/sec
So now if we read more than one cylinder we have to count the Cylinder
Skew Factor which is 17 sectors, we have to add 2 milisec to the
theoretical time
Speed= 704512/(((15+(112/94))/90)+(((1/90)/94)*17)) or 3,872,756
bytes/sec
Let‚s make a real test
1) get the process number of update in order to stop it
root@fire> ps ax |grep update
184 ? SW 0:07 update
912 p3 S 0:00 grep update
2) run the test (it should be more accurate under single user mode)
root@fire> kill -STOP 184 ; /bin/time dd < /dev/rsd0h > /dev/null
bs=704512 count=50 ; kill -CONT 184
50+0 records in
50+0 records out
10.6 real 0.0 user 0.6 sys
704512*50/10.6 = 3,323,170
Difference is 14% (not bad 8^))
root@fire> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 33 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 5
Board revision: 0xf
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 52 tasks, 84 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.36, Mach factor: 0.74
Hope that helps
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman)
Subject: Re: WEB reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <D9KFvs.Azp@sgc.com>
Sender: news@sgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
References: <3q5qb1$91b@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 22:02:15 GMT
In article 91b@newstand.syr.edu, mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell) writes:
> In article <D96yJB.6GA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
> Jerry Kuch <gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >In article <3q4fqo$i9@newstand.syr.edu>,
> >Terry R. McConnell <mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu> wrote:
> >>In article <3q2j15$99k@news.nd.edu>,
> >>Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>
> >>Yes, but it's a demo that stops working after a while.
> >
> >Either you're mistaken, or I'm mistaken. The OmniWeb demo isn't time
> >limited or crippled in any way as far as I had understood. I think that
> >the licence allowed one free copy with additional copies at a site to
> >be purchased on top of it.
> >
>
> Well, sort of both. We have about 10 machines on a local network and the
> version of OmniWeb we downloaded had a licence that expired on April 15th.
> After that only one person on the network could use it at one time. As
> far as I'm concerned, that's crippled. ( Unfortunately, the one person using
> it always seemed to be someone other than me :-()
>
> >>By the way, I solved my Web browsing problem by installing the McGill X
> >>distribution and running Mosaic.
> >
> >Not to malign Mouse's port of X, but I'd like to take this opportunity
> >to malign X itself. Installing X to run Mosaic when OmniWeb exists as an
> >alternative is like giving yourself cancer in order to eat hospital
> >Jell-O.
> >
>
> And not to malign OmniWeb either -- it's a great browser. It's hard to beat
> the price of X, though.
>
Gotta disagree here, as well. I'd rather pay for OmniWeb for a network
than go through the hassle of compiling, maintaining, etc. X11 in order
to run a single app, that is stupid. Of course, if you have 100 other
needs for X, very well, but for Mosaic... nope, not it.
--later, RS
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From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman)
Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk -> OpenStep port ?
Message-ID: <D9KFzC.B0F@sgc.com>
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Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
References: <3qb4jn$s4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 22:04:24 GMT
In article s4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu, cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark) writes:
> We have an application written in Tcl/Tk that we'd like to get running as
> a native Next OS application. This looks to me like a relatively straight-
> forward job, but it might be A LOT easier if there was a Tcl\/Tk2NEXTSTEP
> universal translator to which it might be sent in the first instance.
>
> Any information on the existence of such an application will be gratefully
> acknowledged and used.
>
I remember someone working on a whole project to integrate tcl into
NS a year + back. I believe it was called WavesWorld, and it was part
of his thesis or something.
I'd try orst, and see if it is around.
--later, RS
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 3 Jun 1995 00:49:03 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
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daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
where?
By far the best NeXT-NewsReader that we have seen is
Alexandra. It doesn't crash like NewsGrazer, and is fast and
simple to use. You can get the posting sites from the
person who wrote it. E-mail to:
tini@gurke.ping.de
H. Craig
From: cortesr@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tcsh and pico for NeXT??
Date: 2 Jun 1995 19:46:33 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qnpqp$sqr@mustang.alleg.edu>
Anyone know of a tcsh for NeXT?
How about a pico editor for NeXT??
Any information would be greatful...
thankx..
Ricardo
--
Ricardo Cortes
Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Date: 2 Jun 1995 19:39:39 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com>
References: <1995Jun2.160400.6034@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Bob Peirce #305 writes
> And what will work with NS3.3. I am still running NS3.2 because
> TransSys claims their 1.13 SLIP release probably will not work with 3.3.
I don't know about 1.13, but we run 1.12 on NS3.3 with no problems.
To be precise, we use:
TransSys PNI 1.12 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.28 1994/09/21 05:06:11 louie Exp $)
Was any reason given for possible backsliding on later versions?
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: paulrs@lgs-systems.buf.servtech.com (Paul R. Summermatter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Newton & NeXT
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:00:18 GMT
Organization: LGS Systems
Message-ID: <paulrs-0206951558300001@lgs-systems.buf.servtech.com>
I have heard rumors that somewhere on the net there is a source of
information for Newton & NeXT users. Can anyone direct me to the right
location? I am particularly interested in finding out if anyone has
developed a connection kit of some sort, no matter how basic, for the
Newton and NeXT. Your help would be appreciated.
Paul Summermatter
Chief Engineer
LGS Systems
paulrs@lgs-systems.buf.servtech.com
From: cortesr@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXTIME Movies?
Date: 1 Jun 1995 17:34:17 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qktmp$qak@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <3q7gi6$9pt@corporate.hesta.com>
In article <3q7gi6$9pt@corporate.hesta.com> michael@mvhome (Michael
Verruto) writes:
: - >Is there an archive somewhere of movies that will play using nextime?
Do you mean mpegs??
If you do, there is an mpeg archive..but I don;t remember the url..??
anyone??
Ricardo
--
Ricardo Cortes
Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de(Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
Date: 1 Jun 1995 17:09:18 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qks7u$2c1@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <3qiuud$h3i@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes
:In article <950531185117.215AACUB.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
:
:> > Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
:
:There's a free program called "say" that does an adequate job. Look
:on the standard archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu).
Sorry, I couldn't find it there or somewhere else. Could someone please send it to
me via NextMail?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: cortesr@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: sendmail-addheader
Date: 1 Jun 1995 18:28:58 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ql0ta$rk5@mustang.alleg.edu>
?:
I have been using this script that someone has sent me along with a
add-header file and a .signature file and ever since I started using
NeXTSTEP 3.3, my mail adds a whole new header with an "Apparently-To".
Now, I know this happened with the last version if I had any other
characters after the header...so I fix it and it worked fine..but now on
3.3, I am getting errors in my headers..
anyone??
Ricardo
#!/bin/sh
{
if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi
cat -
if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature;
fi
}| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@"
--
Ricardo Cortes
Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Getting Started with Renderman
Date: 2 Jun 95 00:43:50 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995Jun2.004350@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <D9DJF6.Hz5@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3qh25t$kp0@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
In article <3qh25t$kp0@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>, kjones@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones) writes:
>
> I've used Nextstep's 3DKit and Renderman in V3.0 to write a low-end 3D
> scene modeler app. If I ever get the documentation done I plan to put it
> on the net as freeware.
>
That would be veryyyyyyy nice. There are good modelers available, but
they are all a bit over-priced, maybe because they are over-featured
if you just want to play-around a little with 3D and renderman. So please
do this and it would be very nice if you include the sources, then we
could learn something from it.
Bye, Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: dwang@ichips.intel.com (David Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Date: 2 Jun 1995 19:16:38 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qno2n$s7a@news.jf.intel.com>
References: <3qkj7s$mch@mustang.alleg.edu>
cortesr@alleg.edu wrote:
: What exactly are PPP (Point to Point Protocol) and SLIP (Serial Line IP)?
: What are the differences??
: thanx..
SLIP and PPP are protocals setup to allow you to have a "network connection" over a
serial line. this could be a nulll modem cable or a modem, or something else which I
haven't thought of. Ordinarily to be able to use your machine in a networked
environment, you need a network connection. (as opposed to a simple dialup
connection using such things as an ordinary communications package, which turns your
$3000 Pentium class machines into a dummy terminal, most of all the processing is
done remotely, and your computer becomes a display terminal. In a networked
environment, the data is exchanged between the computers, and some of the processing
which is done can be done locally, thus taking advantage of the processing power of
your local machine.) SLIP and PPP are protocols that allows the transportation of
networking data packets so you can use your ordinary modem as a network connection.
For 99.9% of the time, an Ordinary User may consider PPP and SLIp to be equivalent,
and it really doesn't matter. SLIP which stands for Serial Link, Internet Protocol
is a psudo-standard written by this guy from Berkley in '84 (I think) Its sole
purpose is to transport IP packets across serial lines. It does not have any error
checking capability, nor can it transport any packets other than IP. PPP stands for
Point to Point protocol, and in general it requires slightly more overhead, though it
really is negligible in most cases. PPP was defined by the Internet Task force and is
a well defined and evolving protocol. It is more robust, and can transport various
type s of packets other than IP. It has some CRC checking built in, and in general
most people will advise, use PPP where you can, SLIP only if you must. I have used
SLIp most of the time, and have found it more than adequate for my needs.
--
Grad Student VLSI Design Automation Lab, University of Maryland
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~davewang
Summer MOBster, Intel. JF1 1-G17 MS:JF1-19 (503)264-706
I don't speak for UMd or Intel. DOS/Linux/NeXTStep
From: jason@news.jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tcsh and pico for NeXT??
Date: 2 Jun 1995 22:13:14 -0400
Organization: John Leslie Consulting
Message-ID: <3qogfq$54n@handel.jlc.net>
References: <3qnpqp$sqr@mustang.alleg.edu>
I managed to compile both tcsh and pico right out of the box (er, tar).. You
didn't mention the version of NS you have tho.
Jason T. Nelson jason@jlc.net
http://www.jlc.net/Local/Jason.html NeXT/MIME mail ok!
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Big SCSI HD on NeXT Cube ?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 18:20:01 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jun02.111443@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello.
I have a NeXT Cube with 660MB Maxtor HD. That HD is now outdated
and very slow and more importantly, I'm running out of disk
space. So I'm considering replacing it with another bigger
hard disk. Local vendor is selling 4.0 G SCSI hard disk
(I don't remember the brand name) at $799.
Before purchasing it, I want to know if there is anything
I need to worry about. In Intel Hardware for example, I heard
540MB limit and then another 2.0GB limit. Is there such bad
things on Motorolla hardware also ? Or is it just a matter
of hooking things up.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tcsh and pico for NeXT??
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:24:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qns27$ai1@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3qnpqp$sqr@mustang.alleg.edu>
In article <3qnpqp$sqr@mustang.alleg.edu> cortesr@alleg.edu writes:
> Anyone know of a tcsh for NeXT?
>
> How about a pico editor for NeXT??
>
> Any information would be greatful...
You can get a next version of pico from the washington.edu ftp server---same
place they put pine.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: text format conversion problems
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:40:14 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: binhex rtf WriteNow
I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word file.
Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now have this
on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit', but then
I lose all of the special fonts.
Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
Is there a way to convert .rtf files to WriteNow files?
Is there a way to convert bin-hex files to their binary equivalents?
Thanks much for your help.
Jim Beauchamp
j-beauch@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:38:34 -0500
From: Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <9506021838.AA26404@priscilla.dt.navy.mil>
Subject: Cambridge ANIMO = Dreamsworks DAD project
Hi
I was just going over the news release about the recently announced deal between Silicon Graphics and the
Dreamworks SKG organization and they mentioned that the ANIMO 2D software that is currently only running
under NS3.3 will be a part of this large studio configuration - it sounds as if the package will be ported from NS
over to the SGI IRIX platform - I was posting to see if anyone else has heard the details about this. Thanks
Bob Kurhajetz
US Navy NSWC CD
Bethesda, MD 20084-5000
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tcsh and pico for NeXT??
Date: 3 Jun 1995 08:26:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qp6cc$pfh@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3qnpqp$sqr@mustang.alleg.edu>
cortesr@alleg.edu wrote:
/ Anyone know of a tcsh for NeXT?
ftp://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/next/Sources/tcsh-6.03.FAT.NeXT.compressed
This is the source and binary for tcsh version 6.03. It's been compiled and
tested as a MAB (multi-architecture binary) for NeXTSTEP 3.1 (m68k and i486).
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Slow NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <1995Jun2.142639.11623@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: geno@cuach13.uwyo.edu (Gene Zimmerman)
Date: 2 Jun 95 14:26:38 MDT
Distribution: world
Salutations!
I love my NeXT Cube and News
Grazer, but I wonder if I can speed up NewsGrazer a bit. The last time I used NewsGrazer
(before putting my cube on the net) was about a year ago on an 040 machine (mine's _origional_equipment, classic like!) and it seemed to start up _much_ faster than this does now. I know my campus supports something around 8000 newsgroups, but it takes me about 4.5 minutes from the time I launch NewsGrazer to stop "Searching for articles
.." or what ever and let me graze the news... Any suggestions? I'm not that familiar with the .newsrc, but I tried trimming off all the alt.* entries out of it to no avail.
Thanks,
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu something around 8000 newsgroups, but it takes me about 4.5 minutes from the time I launch NewsGrazer to stop "Searching for articles
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 4 Jun 1995 15:51:04 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qsh8o$9l@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word file.
: Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now have this
: on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit', but then
: I lose all of the special fonts.
: Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
Hi James,
I think, your problem comes from the fonts used with (Win?)Word. If the
original File is written with TrueType-Fonts, I'm afraid, you don't have any
chance to read them with NeXT. Maybe, if the Word-File comes with Adobe-Fonts
- Windows should then use Adobe Type Manager -, you can preserve the fonts,
but only original Adobe-fonts!
greetings,
Rainer
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Message-ID: <1995Jun3.095227.1198@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 09:52:27 GMT
In article <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> Bob Peirce #305 writes
> > And what will work with NS3.3. I am still running NS3.2 because
> > TransSys claims their 1.13 SLIP release probably will not work with
3.3.
>
> I don't know about 1.13, but we run 1.12 on NS3.3 with no problems.
> To be precise, we use:
>
> TransSys PNI 1.12 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.28 1994/09/21 05:06:11 louie Exp $)
>
> Was any reason given for possible backsliding on later versions?
This is due to a misreading of the docs. 1.12 was released, I presume,
before 3.3 was on the horizon, and so didn't warrant a mention. 1.13 was
released either after the release of 3.3, or late in the beta cycle, and
Louis presumably wanted to say that he hadn't personally tested it.
I have installed 1.13 on several Intel 3.3 systems (I don't install PNI on
black systems), with no problems whatsoever.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
Date: 3 Jun 1995 12:17:26 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3qq1um$47e@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
In article <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>,
Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu> wrote:
>we have selected the wrong resultion/frequency when we tried to configure
>NEXTSTEP for Intel for use with ATI Mach64 board!
>
>How can we change it back to plain VGA from an ASCII screen?...
From the boot prompt enter:
config=Default
This should enable you to boot with VGA resolution and correct the problem.
--
___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | - My other car has a mouse.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
In-Reply-To: kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu's message of 2 Jun 1995 12:38:58 -0500
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun3115929@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 15:59:29 GMT
Did you try booting with config=Default? If that doesn't work, you can
always boot up in single user mode, go into /usr/Devices/ATI*.config and
edit the Instance0.table.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: mcarling@rahul.net (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Maxtor 330-340 SCSI HD
Date: 4 Jun 1995 20:13:26 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Message-ID: <3qt456$jp6@hustle.rahul.net>
References: <3qrjim$1ch@news4.primenet.com>
In article <3qrjim$1ch@news4.primenet.com> rworne@primenet.com writes:
> This thing is a beast, 5 1/4" full-height SCSI. No docs, does anyone
know
> the jumper selections for SCSI ID on this monster?
The jumper pins for SCSI target number for that Maxtor are on the circuit
board, away from the edge. There are two sets of three together. Orient
the drive with the circuit board up and the long axis running left to
right. Each of the two sets of three jumpers will line up away from you
(along the short axis). You want the set nearer the center of the board.
The jumper nearest the center sets the low order bit. Knowing the initial
SCSI setting should help you find the right jumpers.
M Carling
Chairman, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Pentium90 NS 3.3, DOS config query
Message-ID: <D9oA3z.CMJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3qg3hs$rp@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:47:59 GMT
ANI (guptaa@alleg.edu) wrote:
: I am new to networking. I need to know how to get this information from my
: machine which is an Intel Pentium 90, 16M RAM and 800+M HD, running NS3.3, with
: a DOS partition. It has an EtherExpress 16C ethernet card at port 300, IRQ 11.
: If anyone is familiar with this configuration please send me this info to my
: account (I do not visit this newsgroup often.)
: How do I find :
: 1. The name of the "packet driver" with the ethernet card?
: 2. The packet vector number (In Hex, like 0x <number>)?
: 3. The I/O number/address (Hex, same, 0x <number>)?
: 4. Name server IP address (For DNS searches)?
The packet driver comes on the DOS install disk taht came with your
EtherExpress.
The I/O number is also called the "Port Adress", which you said is 300,
above.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 4 Jun 1995 18:02:40 GMT
Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qssg0$n9h@emerald.oz.net>
References: <3qsh8o$9l@rainix.jena.thur.de>
In article <3qsh8o$9l@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de
(Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> : I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word
file.
> : Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now
have this
> : on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit',
but then
> : I lose all of the special fonts.
>
> : Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
>
> I think, your problem comes from the fonts used with (Win?)Word. If the
> original File is written with TrueType-Fonts, I'm afraid, you don't have
any
> chance to read them with NeXT. Maybe, if the Word-File comes with
Adobe-Fonts
> - Windows should then use Adobe Type Manager -, you can preserve the
fonts,
> but only original Adobe-fonts!
>
I've edited PostScript files to replace references to unavailable
fonts with ones installed on my system. The character spacing can be a
little wierd, but it looks better than Courier in most cases. Would this
be possible with an RTF document?
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: 2 Adaptec controllers in 1 Intel box under 3.3?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD9o2EG.BEH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 21:01:28 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom11.netcom.com
Hi,
Has anyone attempted the death-defying feat of running 2 separate SCSI
controllers in the same Intel box, under NS 3.3? Should this work, or is
their not a hope in hell? If it actually works, are there any special
configuration considerations?
Thanks for any info in this area
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Maxtor 330-340 SCSI HD
Date: 4 Jun 1995 06:24:22 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3qrjim$1ch@news4.primenet.com>
This thing is a beast, 5 1/4" full-height SCSI. No docs, does anyone know
the jumper selections for SCSI ID on this monster?
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Getting rid of my 10meg DOS partition?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 08:08:27 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3qus3r$6h9@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3qt7gf$dmq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <3qt7gf$dmq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>,
Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote:
>run when I boot up. What I'd like to know is how to get rid of the 10meg
>MS-DOS partition in order to expand the 330meg NS part into 340megs. Do I
>have to reformat? Any info would be appreciated...Philip
You will have to run fdisk to repartition the drive, and then re-install
NS on your boot drive. You should not have to lose any work to do this,
though.
If you have a tape drive. Just do a full backup of your boot drive.
Then you can recover all files you have changed or added by restoring
the files from tape. If not, and you must rely on your other drives
to save your changes try doing something like this.
(N.B. this assume you have about 400MB free on your 1GB scsi Drive.)
1. login as root and open a terminal window.
2. cd to drive that has space.
3. dump 0f ./rootbkup.dump /
When you have reinstalled the OS, mount the drive in which you have
placed the on-line backup and:
1. login as root and open a terminal window.
2. cd /
3. restore xvf /OTHERDRIVE/rootbkup.dump
reboot the machine.
You could also list files in the root disk which are newer than
a file on the base distribution, using find. Then edit this file
to remove /private/vm/swapfile and /private/vm/swapfile.front.
Fianlly use lithis lis of files and gnutar to create a tarfile
on another disk, which can be restored after the reinstall of the OS.
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 5 Jun 1995 10:33:14 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3quj0q$4n@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3qsh8o$9l@rainix.jena.thur.de> <3qssg0$n9h@emerald.oz.net>
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
: I've edited PostScript files to replace references to unavailable
: fonts with ones installed on my system. The character spacing can be a
: little wierd, but it looks better than Courier in most cases. Would this
: be possible with an RTF document?
I think, yes. Since rtf is plain ASCII, you can edit all instructions
related to fonts. A rtf-header looks like:
{\rtf1\ansi \deff0\deflang1024{\fonttbl{\f0\froman Times;}{\f1\froman Symbol
;}{\f2\fswiss Helvetica;}{\f3\froman Times New Roman;}
and so on. This example comes from Windows so files from other platforms may
differ. It seems that there are pairs of fonts, with the second font
pointing to the original used and the first pointing to the font used to
substitute if the original font is'nt available. So it may be possible to
replace one of these two fontnames with an available font.
Never proved this ;-)
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From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Subject: Re: black SCSI speed
Message-ID: <D9M82M.6v2@zoodle.robin.de>
Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Organization: meow!!!
References: <D9GI68.BxK@coffeehaus.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:08:46 GMT
Stephane I. Matis writes
> My disk is a 730 meg Quantum
[...]
> so, maximum sustained = 64*1024*60 or 3,932,160 bytes per second
[...]
> real speed:
[...]
> which is
> 100*64*1024/3.8 = 1,724,631 bytes per second
>
> Difference: 43.8%
Using the very same calculations, I do get over 7 Megabytes of maximum
transfer rate the disk should be able to provide. Difference: ~80 %.
Practical maximum of the very same disk (Connor CFP 4207) with a DOS
PC (Pentium, PCI, Adaptec or similar stuff) was measured by a German
computer magazine to be about 6.3 Megabytes/second. I wouldn't expect
more than 5 Megabytes per second, due to the (well known (?)) fact that
NeXT doesn't support synchronous mode, and that asynchronous mode has
a theoretical maximum of 5 MB/sec. But getting 2 MB/sec (it improved
a bit after removing other devices like old harddisks from the SCSI chain)
isn't anything really close to 5 MB/sec.
By the way, this is on a NeXTstation with a 25 MHz '040.
I've got an email with some measurements done on a Turbo, which gave
about 3.3 MBytes/sec. Quite a bit better. And this was with a drive
maxing out at 3.8 MBytes/sec. So does anyone with black hardware have
anything that's better than that? My machine, using the very same
dedicated measurement approach runs up to 2.1 MBytes/sec (gets better
each time...), but that's still far from satisfying.
Bye,
Uli
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 5 Jun 1995 04:15:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3qu0cj$sjl@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
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You can connect via the world wide web at:
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Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
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If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
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eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
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=============
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:56:52 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3quj0q$4n@rainix.jena.thur.de>
Rainer Sokoll writes
> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
> : I've edited PostScript files to replace references to unavailable
> : fonts with ones installed on my system. The character spacing can be
> : a little wierd, but it looks better than Courier in most cases. Would
> : this be possible with an RTF document?
>
> I think, yes. Since rtf is plain ASCII, you can edit all instructions
> related to fonts. A rtf-header looks like:
>
> {\rtf1\ansi \deff0\deflang1024{\fonttbl{\f0\froman Times;}{\f1\froman
> Symbol;}{\f2\fswiss Helvetica;}{\f3\froman Times New Roman;}
>
> and so on. This example comes from Windows so files from other platforms
> may differ. It seems that there are pairs of fonts, with the second font
> pointing to the original used and the first pointing to the font used to
> substitute if the original font is'nt available. So it may be possible
> to replace one of these two fontnames with an available font.
Close but not quite. The roman/swiss/modern tags are provided so apps can
make internal font swaps (if supported) based on the general attributes.
For example, 'roman' means 'the default serifed font' and 'swiss' means
'the default non-serifed font'.Not much variety there, but a reasonable
no-other-recourse strategy when the named font is missing.
One possibility is to go into the RTF fonttable header and change the
_real_ font names to something you have in NEXTSTEP. For example, Ariel
is very common in Windows RTF files, and this must generally be changed
to Helvetica. The problem is, it's nearly impossible to edit raw RTF in
Edit.app. Even if you mangle the extension, it still gets recognized as
RTF. There are two ways to get around this:
1) Use an RTF-unaware editor, like emacs (ack! poo!) or vi (blech!).
2) cat the file to a Terminal window, then copy/paste to a fresh Edit.app
window. Until you save and reload, the raw RTF text will be available for
direct manipulation.
In either case, you modify the font names, save, and reload into Edit.
In WriteUp, we implemented a scheme where users can build a table of font
mappings that are automatically applied for unrecognized font names in
'foreign' documents. Since this problem usually occurs on a broad scale,
it's the least work.
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From: Steve Ikin <S.D.Ikin@BMS.Salford.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Quake - Writing Games.
Date: 5 Jun 1995 15:37:22 GMT
Organization: University of Salford
Message-ID: <3qv8bi$9s6@io.salford.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I hear off a guy at work that Quake (IDs software follow up to
DOOM) is been written using Next Step. He said that it is
simply the best games writing platform around.
How come?
---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Ikin
S.D.Ikin@BMS.Salford.AC.UK
Work #: (44) 161 745 5205
Fax #: (44) 161 745 5556
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Big SCSI HD on NeXT Cube ?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 12:46:51 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3qvcdr$735@papoose.quick.com>
References: <95Jun02.111443@ee.stanford.edu>
In article <95Jun02.111443@ee.stanford.edu>,
Sang Ju Park <park@isl.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
(munch)
>I need to worry about. In Intel Hardware for example, I heard
>540MB limit and then another 2.0GB limit. Is there such bad
>things on Motorolla hardware also ? Or is it just a matter
>of hooking things up.
All implementation of NS share the same limitation on partitioning
SCSI drives >2GB. In order to use these drives you need to create
disktab entries to define partitions (all of which must be <= 2GB).
You should read the NeXTanswers bulletin
1533_initializing_and_partitioning_big_disks
.
This will step you through the configuration process.
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From: bambi@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Stefan K. Bamberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: installing intel NS 3.3 on P5-90 PCI.....
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 15:29:10 +0200
Organization: University of Wuerzburg
Message-ID: <bambi-0206951529100001@wi6a66.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
HI,
during installation process I always get a time out with the SCSI adapter
while testing/accessing the drive and/or cd-rom.
Sometimes it works the first time, but then it hangs at next SCSI test.
I have an ASUS PCI board with a P5-90Mhz and a Adaptec 2940 with a 2GB
Barracuda at id0 and a toshiba cd-rom at id1.
I already installed DOS, WINDOWS and MS Windows NT with success so I can't
really believe that there is a BIOS or HW problem.
any hints?
TIA,
- stefan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: NeXT In Line?
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:59:10 GMT
Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you contact them?
Robert
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Date: 5 Jun 1995 19:11:54 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3qvktq$1fqc@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <1995Jun5.143256.15836@investor.pgh.pa.us>
In article <1995Jun5.143256.15836@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us
(Bob Peirce #305) writes:
:In article <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com writes:
:>Bob Peirce #305 writes
:>> And what will work with NS3.3. I am still running NS3.2 because
:>> TransSys claims their 1.13 SLIP release probably will not work with 3.3.
:>
:>I don't know about 1.13, but we run 1.12 on NS3.3 with no problems.
:>To be precise, we use:
:>
:>TransSys PNI 1.12 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.28 1994/09/21 05:06:11 louie Exp $)
:>
:>Was any reason given for possible backsliding on later versions?
:
:I am using 0.9beta and went to get the latest version (1.13). The
:README file warned that it might not or should not be expected to (I
:forget the precise wording) run on NS3.3. No reason was given. It may
:just be that it hadn't been tested on 3.3 yet. However, since no info
:was given I decided to stay with NS3.2 until I could get more info. It
:sounds like I should try to get 1.12 just in case 1.13 DOES have a
:problem.
If you don't _require_ SLIP, I can _highly_ recommend PPP2.2. I just set it
up this weekend and it works _flawlessly_. Quite fast too! I am using it on
a white box with Mux1.7 (for COM3) at 57.6Kbps. I even copied over the setup
stuff I had from my Linux disk -- worked _exactly_ the same.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: Software reading ASCII text
In-Reply-To: Your message of "01 Jun 1995 17:09:18 GMT."
<3qks7u$2c1@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Message-ID: <199506051330.JAA12026@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Cc: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 09:30:37 -0400
Hi.
In message <3qks7u$2c1@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb writes:
>Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes
>:In article <950531185117.215AACUB.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
>:
>:> > Is there a software which can read ASCII text in a reasonable voice?
>:
>:There's a free program called "say" that does an adequate job. Look
>:on the standard archives (e.g., ftp.cs.orst.edu).
>
>Sorry, I couldn't find it there or somewhere else. Could someone
>please send it to me via NextMail?
"say" is the name of the command-line executable that comes in the
"rsynth" distribution that has already been mentioned.
--Eric
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:41:17 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950605144117.354AACUP.malc@daneel>
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The new ALPS glidepoint (a touch pad rather like the one on the Apple
PowerBooks) works fine for me.
The serial port version was a bit bumpy -- as I gather are many serial port
in put devices (?) -- but the PS/2 version is good. Double clicking by
tapping the surface works fine, triple clicking is better done with the real
buttons. One thing I'm not so happy about, after a couple of weeks' use, is
the fact that it lies almost flat aganist the table. This means I tend to
use it with my wrist resting on the worksurface, and so fairly stressed.
IMHO it would be better if there were some sort of rounded, elevated palm
rest that went with it, and then the touchpad could be inclined slightly
from front to back
(i.e. fingers / arm )
The thing costs in the region of 60 pounds inthe UK.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Diff (cmp) on directory heirarchy?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 15:00:46 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <3r1qiu$jmi@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
References: <jpanicoD9r0Lz.6Fy@netcom.com>
Joe Panico writes
>
> Is there a single Unix command that can compare two directory
> heirarchies,
> i.e. recursively compare the heirachies for the same file
> names as well as performing the equiv. of diff on each file?
>
The Unix command 'diff -r' should do what you want.
Check out the man page for diff. I prefer to use it as
diff -lrs to get additional information.
Milind A. Bakhle
mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP
Message-ID: <1995Jun5.143256.15836@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:32:56 GMT
References: <1995Jun2.160400.6034@investor.pgh.pa.us> <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <3qnpdr$51n@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com writes:
>Bob Peirce #305 writes
>> And what will work with NS3.3. I am still running NS3.2 because
>> TransSys claims their 1.13 SLIP release probably will not work with 3.3.
>
>I don't know about 1.13, but we run 1.12 on NS3.3 with no problems.
>To be precise, we use:
>
>TransSys PNI 1.12 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.28 1994/09/21 05:06:11 louie Exp $)
>
>Was any reason given for possible backsliding on later versions?
I am using 0.9beta and went to get the latest version (1.13). The
README file warned that it might not or should not be expected to (I
forget the precise wording) run on NS3.3. No reason was given. It may
just be that it hadn't been tested on 3.3 yet. However, since no info
was given I decided to stay with NS3.2 until I could get more info. It
sounds like I should try to get 1.12 just in case 1.13 DOES have a
problem.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
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From: toni@usenix.org (Toni Veglia)
Subject: USENIX Electronic Commerce Tutorials - July 13-14, 1995, NYC,NY
Message-ID: <D9pvuE.CJz@usenix.org>
Keywords: USENIX, Electronic Commerce
Organization: USENIX Association, Berkeley, CA
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:35:02 GMT
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******************************************************
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From: murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Scanning software for the Agfa
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:10:21 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qv38d$6jc@news.cerf.net>
Is there scanning software for the Agfa StudioScan II
Thank you
Murshid
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 21:22:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qvsi8$p30@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com>
In <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
writes:
>
>Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you contact
them?
>
>Robert
I try to contact them. I had their phone number for a while.
Unfortunately I tossed it away. Nobody picked up the phone.
I guess they are really dead....
If somebody else know that this is not true, let me know
Kurniawan
From: Gary Longsine <glongsi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it worthwhile to upgrade?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 23:34:51 GMT
Organization: USWest SA news server
Message-ID: <3r04ar$c5f@sanews.uswc.uswest.com>
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I've used and installed NeXTSTEP on Intel and SPARC several times (for
practice.) You will get a great deal more horsepower out of a newer machine,
especially from an Object.Station, or a RISC machine. (Subjectively, the
Object.Station 41 "feels" as fast as an HP 715/60mhz. The 486/100mhz CPU of
the Cannon machine is slower, but the machine really does seem to be optimized
well for DPS. The overall effect is that, for most tasks, I'd rather be on an
Object Station. They are also available in sexy black cases, so you might not
miss your baby as much;)
If you've got the money, and if you can tolerate the stupid bloody optical
mouse that Sun keeps insisting is a better idea, then sparc is GREAT.
(Actually, you
may not have to put up with a StupidMouse if you buy a sparc clone.)
Intel is
nice, too, once you get it installed. (You do need to be very careful to avoid
de-optimizing your expensive machine. Go all-scsi on the disks if you can, and
pay close attention to the video specs.) If you're not an expert in PC junk,
consider buying one of the supported, pre-installed PCs. The Cannon
Object.Station is by far the best. If you can read and understand hardware and
software technical documentation, then you can also try assembling a PC from
components yourself. (I've done this a few times, but I don't recommend it to
anyone. NeXTSTEP is by far the easiest to install of any UNIX, but can still
have mind-bending problems, due mostly to bios-revisions in adaptors which
toast a device driver.)
Installing on a SparcStation is not only painless, it is litterally a
one-banana task. It was actually much easier than installing Solaris on a
SparcStation.
Basically, If you like NeXTSTEP on your Cube, you'll love it on a RISC machine.
NeXTSTEP turns a PC into a real machine, too.
/gary
mallen@unseen2.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) wrote:
>I have a NeXTCube, which I love very much. I have now used all but 11.7MB on
>my original HD and only have 8 MB of RAM. Is it worth it to upgrade my memory
>and hard drive, or should I just move on to a Sun or HP?
>
>Can people with NeXTstep running on a Sun or HP advise me on what they like
>and dislike, and I'm interested how people with cubes who did move to Suns or
>HP's think its better or worse.
>
>P.S. Suggestions for specific machines would be appreciated.
>
>--
> mallen@nwu.edu -- (KoX since 1995) -- PGP public key on key-servers
>"All we seem to be fed is a diet of: 'this is true, I don't have to PROVE it,
>if you don't believe it like I do, then there is something wrong with you'"
>Jeff Hartley (jeff@jhartley.demon.co.uk) about Scientologist proof.
> Come join alt.religion.scientology and find out about clam engrams!
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Getting rid of my 10meg DOS partition?
Date: 4 Jun 1995 21:10:39 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qt7gf$dmq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I am now in a position to completely get rid of DOS/Windows from my "NeXT
PC". The configuration is 2 IDE drives (each 340) and a one gig SCSI
Seagate. The system boots off the first IDE drive. That drive is partition
into a 10meg DOS part and the rest NS. I then get a choice of what I want to
run when I boot up. What I'd like to know is how to get rid of the 10meg
MS-DOS partition in order to expand the 330meg NS part into 340megs. Do I
have to reformat? Any info would be appreciated...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 6 Jun 1995 03:43:43 GMT
Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
Message-ID: <3r0itf$k2q@pubxfer4.news.psi.net>
References: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org> <950605144117.354AACUP.malc@daneel>
mmalcolm Crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote:
: The new ALPS glidepoint (a touch pad rather like the one on the Apple
: PowerBooks) works fine for me.
: IMHO it would be better if there were some sort of rounded, elevated palm
: rest that went with it, and then the touchpad could be inclined slightly
: from front to back (i.e. fingers / arm )
Latest pictures in Mobile Computing magazine (trackball review
article) now show it with a little foam pad upon which the user's
wrist is resting. Don't know if it's just for show or now part of the
product...
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 7 Jun 1995 12:19:10 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r45fu$12n@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com>
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In article <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> One possibility is to go into the RTF fonttable header and change the
> _real_ font names to something you have in NEXTSTEP. For example, Ariel
> is very common in Windows RTF files, and this must generally be changed
> to Helvetica. The problem is, it's nearly impossible to edit raw RTF in
> Edit.app. Even if you mangle the extension, it still gets recognized as
> RTF.
Come on:-) You really never came across the "Rich Text Options" in Edit?
OK, set Edit to "Developer Mode" (in Info->Preferences), then switch to
"Temporary Settings" and voila: "Rich Text Options". So no need for
Copy/Paste, vi, emacs, and whatsoever.
Robert.
--
Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/
University of Munich
Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316
D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Germany
From: augusto@zeus.uucp (Augusto Rodrigues)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Q] Memory expansion vs new machine
Date: 6 Jun 1995 00:52:58 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r08ta$b8a@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hello to all "NeXTers":
I own a Turbo slab (M68040, 33MHz) with 16Mb of RAM,
and a 400Mb HD. I was thinking in expanding the memory
to 32 Mb. But I'd like to receive some input from
other users with regard to realistic expectations
on performance increase that such an expansion might
bring me. The main use of the machine is running Fortran
programs, an ocasional Mathematica session, and for
everything else speed is not a major concern.
My point is mostly if it is any worth to spent $600
in 16 Mb at this point when a Pentium system can
be had for $2k-3k (and my machine , from what I've
seen in c.s.n.marketplace is still worth some $1500).
Fell free to e-mail your answers.
Thank you.
Augusto S. Rodrigues E-mail: augusto@hadrian.opt-sci.arizona.edu
Optical Sciences Center Phone #:(520) 621-2229
The University of Arizona Fax # (520) 621-XXXX
Tucson, AZ 85721
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 23:18:54 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r03cu$moc@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com> <3qvsi8$p30@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Kurniawan Darmawangsa (kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
: writes:
: >
: >Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you contact
: them?
: >
: >Robert
: I try to contact them. I had their phone number for a while.
: Unfortunately I tossed it away. Nobody picked up the phone.
: I guess they are really dead....
: If somebody else know that this is not true, let me know
: Kurniawan
It seems every few months this thing about NeXt in Line still alive goes on
... I heard that in the middle of June I should receive my copy. So they
are still alive and putting together a great magazine...
Subscribe with your money....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 6 Jun 95 12:58:07 WET
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca> <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> <3qk967$10hg@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
hoff@regen.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>In article <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>,
>dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes:
>>In article <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca>, Wetherill <wetherij@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>I have a stack of Amiga disks which contain ASCII files. I need
>>>these files on my NeXT, and I don't have access to an Amiga anymore,
>>>Does any any means exists which would allow me to insert an
>>>Amiga disk into my floppy drive and convert the files.
>>>
>>
>> I was thinking of writing one of these; does anybody else want one? Do you
>>want the Boing ball or the check mark in the icons? :-)
>Boing. :-)
>But as much as I think that such a tool would be pretty cool,
>I suspect you will have a terrible time writing it, at least
>when it comes to the PC floppy drives - I think there's the
>different encoding schemes, GCR vs. MFM. Don't know if you can
>do it on black, but most likely the kernel will get in the
>way (try banging the chips, like in the good ole times :)
>unless you write a file system, which isn't that easy or well-
>documented either..
>I prefer to use NFS, works like a charm with ~350 KB/sec.
>Of course, that assumes you have an Ethernet board in your Amy.
>Other possibilities would be SLIP, PLIP or PPP.
> Holger
I'm sure that there must be a DOS based reader for Amiga disks. Afterall, the
format's not that different and both are MFM. Try ask around in one of the Amiga
groups for DOS conversion. Maybe they can help.
If your NeXT machine's a PC box then it's just a case of putting the DOS floppies in.
One thing to remember is that you may well have to do some character translations,
certainly <CR><LF> to <LF> at some point. Unix provides a tool called "tr" which
might help you there.
From: ptok@cave.usc.edu (Phillip Tokumaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
Date: 6 Jun 1995 05:01:22 GMT
Organization: USC
Sender: tokumaru@comserv-d-5.usc.edu
Message-ID: <ptok-0506952111270001@comserv-d-5.usc.edu>
References: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org> <950605144117.354AACUP.malc@daneel> <3r0itf$k2q@pubxfer4.news.psi.net>
In article <3r0itf$k2q@pubxfer4.news.psi.net>, bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
wrote:
> Latest pictures in Mobile Computing magazine (trackball review
> article) now show it with a little foam pad upon which the user's
> wrist is resting. Don't know if it's just for show or now part of the
> product...
>
> Brian Hess
> Active Ingredients, Inc.
> bnh@active.com
A foam rubber wristrest comes with the "Glidepoint by Cirque." ALPS==Cirque?
Phillip Tokumaru
ptok@cave.usc.edu
--
Phillip Tokumaru
ptok@cave.usc.edu
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk -> OpenStep port ?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 18:45:26 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3r27o6$kdp@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3qb4jn$s4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <D9KFzC.B0F@sgc.com>
rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman) writes:
>In article s4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu, cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark) writes:
>> We have an application written in Tcl/Tk that we'd like to get running as
>> a native Next OS application. This looks to me like a relatively straight-
>> forward job, but it might be A LOT easier if there was a Tcl\/Tk2NEXTSTEP
>> universal translator to which it might be sent in the first instance.
>>
>> Any information on the existence of such an application will be gratefully
>> acknowledged and used.
>>
>I remember someone working on a whole project to integrate tcl into
>NS a year + back. I believe it was called WavesWorld, and it was part
>of his thesis or something.
>I'd try orst, and see if it is around.
The latest copy of WavesWorld can be found at:
ftp://media.mit.edu/pub/WavesWorld/2.3/
wave's home page is:
http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/
I am pretty sure that only Tcl is supported and no Tk.
Tal Lancaster
>--later, RS
--
Tal Lancaster
HTML: http://www.compbio.caltech.edu/~tal/tal.html
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From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Building satan
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:17:38 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r1h12$1g0@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Dear Readers,
I have installed the latest perl5 bin for intel and m68k successfully on
my intel-based PC. While trying to build satan 1.0 as NeXTanswer receipe
stated, I failed . I always get the following message while running
reconfig:
jesse:21# reconfig*
/usr/local/bin/perl: Command not found.
Anyone who can tell me how to solve this problem, I would be very
appreciated.
Simon Chih-L Han
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Quake - Writing Games.
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:52:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r1j2n$i7v@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3qv8bi$9s6@io.salford.ac.uk>
Steve Ikin (S.D.Ikin@BMS.Salford.ac.uk) wrote:
/ I hear off a guy at work that Quake (IDs software follow up to
/ DOOM) is been written using Next Step.
That`s possible. DOOM was also developed under NEXTSTEP. I heard that Id
wanted to print "Developed on <NeXT logo> computers" on their new games...
/ He said that it is simply the best games writing platform around.
It is. It`s the best developer environment - not only for games.
That could be interesting for you: NeXT, the company which develops
NEXTSTEP, will port its developer tools to Windows NT and 95.
Other companies will provide it on Solaris (Sun) and OSF/1 (DEC).
For more information about NeXT and NEXTSTEP: http://WWW.NeXT.COM/
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Q] Re: Is it worth the upgrade?
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:32:25 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606213122.29146C-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
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On 5 Jun 1995, Gary Longsine wrote:
> Installing on a SparcStation is not only painless, it is litterally a
> one-banana task. It was actually much easier than installing Solaris on a
> SparcStation.
i am also considering moving to risc machines from my pc (which i would
undoubtedly say IT's SOOOO slow [66mhz dx2]). well anyways, do you know,
by chance that installation on the sun require a sun cd-rom, or maybe pc
cd-roms would work? in your opinion, which performs better--hp 712/60 or
sun sparcstation (what model were you running it on)? thanx! :-)
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:48:59 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606214414.29146D-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
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well folks, just got an announcement in comp.sys.next.announce, next in
line has decided to stop their publication... Damn! I hated when that
happens, every time I thought some magazine was great, and subscribe to
it, it went away--first it's nextworld, now next in line. :-((
From: jab@cldc.howard.edu (Joseph A. Blackette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
Date: 7 Jun 1995 15:09:14 GMT
Organization: Howard University, Computer Learning & Design Center
Message-ID: <3r4feq$md9@sulu.cldc.howard.edu>
References: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
Christian Kuhtz (kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu) wrote:
: Hi:
: we have selected the wrong resultion/frequency when we tried to configure
: NEXTSTEP for Intel for use with ATI Mach64 board!
: How can we change it back to plain VGA from an ASCII screen?...
: Please help!!!!
: Thanks!
: Chris
: --
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Restart the machine and get to the "boot:" prompt. Then type
"config=Default" and hit enter. This should take you in with 640x480
VGA.
hopes this helps.
Joseph Blackette
jab@comserc.howard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Message-ID: <1995Jun6.130524.1251@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 6 Jun 95 13:05:23 WET
References: <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) wrote:
>I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word file.
>Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now have this
>on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit', but then
>I lose all of the special fonts.
>Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
>Is there a way to convert .rtf files to WriteNow files?
>Is there a way to convert bin-hex files to their binary equivalents?
>Thanks much for your help.
>Jim Beauchamp
>j-beauch@uiuc.edu
I'm told that MSWord's RTF and NeXT's are different versions so you might have
some fun. Certainly with tables. I gave up and started using HTML.
I assume you're using a Macintosh since you talk about bin4hex files. You might
also have font problems since the Macintosh might use fonts that your NeXT
machine doesn't have. For instance, you might need to change Monaco to Courier.
I'd try to get the MSWord document's fonts changed to Times, Helvetica and other
common fonts, rather than some of the fonts less common across platforms.
Of course you could always buy the fonts you need!
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Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Message-ID: <1995Jun6.130744.1252@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 6 Jun 95 13:07:44 WET
References: <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3qsh8o$9l@rainix.jena.thur.de>
rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) wrote:
>James Beauchamp (beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>: I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word file.
>: Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now have this
>: on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit', but then
>: I lose all of the special fonts.
>: Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
>Hi James,
>I think, your problem comes from the fonts used with (Win?)Word. If the
>original File is written with TrueType-Fonts, I'm afraid, you don't have any
>chance to read them with NeXT. Maybe, if the Word-File comes with Adobe-Fonts
>- Windows should then use Adobe Type Manager -, you can preserve the fonts,
>but only original Adobe-fonts!
>greetings,
>Rainer
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You can set Windows to do font translations for you. I know this works with importing stuff but I'm
not sure about exporting. There's a .INI file somewhere.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 7 Jun 1995 14:43:42 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r4duu$4ed@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3r45fu$12n@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Robert Stabl writes
> In article <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
> Anderson) writes:
> > One possibility is to go into the RTF fonttable header and change the
> > _real_ font names to something you have in NEXTSTEP. For example,
> > Ariel is very common in Windows RTF files, and this must generally be
> > changed to Helvetica. The problem is, it's nearly impossible to edit
> > raw RTF in Edit.app. Even if you mangle the extension, it still gets
> > recognized as RTF.
>
> Come on:-) You really never came across the "Rich Text Options" in Edit?
> OK, set Edit to "Developer Mode" (in Info->Preferences), then switch to
> "Temporary Settings" and voila: "Rich Text Options". So no need for
> Copy/Paste, vi, emacs, and whatsoever.
Mea culpa. Art Isbell straightened me out on this one, and I truly never
realized it before. You have no idea how much time I would have saved
debugging the RTF parser in WriteUp if I _had_ known. I apologize for the
over-elaborate and unnecessary explanation.
--
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Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Date: 6 Jun 1995 15:11:37 GMT
Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r1r7a$gr8@emerald.oz.net>
References: <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3qv5vk$fgu@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> The problem is, it's nearly impossible to edit raw RTF in
> Edit.app. Even if you mangle the extension, it still gets recognized as
> RTF.
>
Actually, Edit is a very good RTF editor. All you need to do is set
its Temporary preferences to Ignore Rich Text Format and RTF files will be
opened without the RTF directives being interpreted.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
contract and case management solutions
From: Christof Bircher <bircher@ioc.unibe.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: wanted: email-address of the devloper of CRANARCH
Date: 8 Jun 1995 06:43:59 GMT
Organization: University of Berne
Message-ID: <3r667f$kv5@aragorn.unibe.ch>
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I tried to contact tms gmbh in germany with the email address given on
the stepwise web-server, but it seems the address isn't valid any more.
Does anyone know somthing about tms GmbH? Do they have a new address or
are they out of business?
Greetings
Chris
From: darren@SchemaResearch.com (Darren Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 18:46:48 GMT
Organization: Aimnet Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r27qo$fef@aimnet1.aimnet.com>
References: <3qvsi8$p30@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
In article <3qvsi8$p30@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa) writes:
> In <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla)
> writes:
> >
> >Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you
contact
> them?
> >
> >Robert
> I try to contact them. I had their phone number for a while.
> Unfortunately I tossed it away. Nobody picked up the phone.
> I guess they are really dead....
>
> If somebody else know that this is not true, let me know
>
> Kurniawan
The email address was info@nil.com, and I tried for some time to
get information about how to subscribe and how to buy advertising
space for the NEXTSTEP company I work for.
When I got no reply for the third time, I wrote to the editor
directly, letting him know the problems I was having. He referred
me to someone named Sonja who was in charge of advertising sales,
cc'd her on the mail, and promised that I would hear from her and
from the subscription department. Well, you guessed it, I didn't
hear anything from them so I tried one last time and cc'd everybody
via their direct mail addresses.
Nothing. No replies, no bounced messages.... nada.
I don't know the status of the company, but if they don't get back
to customers/advertisers who want to send them money, it's a good
bet they aren't in business any longer.
Darren
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 21:51:11 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <3qvu8f$6qq@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
References: <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com>,
Robert La Ferla <rdl@world.std.com> wrote:
>Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you contact them?
>
>Robert
Try "rob@bedazzled.com". Please let me know what you discover.
Snail address: PO Box 392, Berryville, VA 22611
Phone: (703) 955-5045
Good luck.
david
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Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge.
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From: Dario Ringach <dario@hobson.cns.nyu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: (no subject)
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:03:21 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <3r1g69$487@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
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To: Zmail,colors,and,printing,in,IRIX,5.3
I don't find the "colors" option anymore in the IRIX 5.3 version of Zmail.
How do you change the colors? Also, can I use a remote BSD printer with Zmail?
I can print files from the console, but I there are no available printers when
I try to print from Zmail. Thanks...
--
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Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 fax: (212) 995-4011
New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
From: Dario Ringach <dario@hobson.cns.nyu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Zmail colors and printing in IRIX 5.3
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:03:40 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <3r1g6s$487@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I don't find the "colors" option anymore in the IRIX 5.3 version of Zmail.
How do you change the colors? Also, can I use a remote BSD printer with Zmail?
I can print files from the console, but I there are no available printers when
I try to print from Zmail. Thanks...
--
Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 lab: (212) 998-7730
Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 fax: (212) 995-4011
New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
Subject: Re: changing default icons
Message-ID: <D9qz41.n0v@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
References: <3qf2c1$d9i@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:43:13 GMT
In <3qf2c1$d9i@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) writes:
>NextStep lets me choose the default app that starts up when I
>double-click on a file, but how do I change the icon that WM
>associates with those files?
Each mach section of an application's execuable contains the information
about the filetypes this app can handle _and_the_icons_ for that types. WM
scans all executables on startup and collects the information found (you can
also start this process by hand through "Update Viewers").
=> the default app determines the look of the icons
=> to change this you will have to replace the icon in the app's executables
Unfortunately I don't know how to do this; I use a very old tool named
"SegHoarker" wich is Pre3.X and Motorola only. Maybe there are new tools or
any command line utilities (look in man pages).
Bye, Klaus Brouwer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Diff (cmp) on directory heirarchy?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD9r0Lz.6Fy@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:15:34 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom6.netcom.com
Hi,
Is there a single Unix command that can compare two directory heirarchies,
i.e. recursively compare the heirachies for the same file names as well
as performing the equiv. of diff on each file?
If not a single command, are there any simple shell scripts kicking around
that will do this?
Thanks for any tips.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: rjevridg@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Robert Bob J Evridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mac Printing on a NEXT Printer
Date: 6 Jun 1995 14:51:51 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <3r1q27$pj0@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I have a Mac located on a mixed network with NEXT printers. Can someone
help me find a way to print from the Mac to the NEXT printers. All of
the other computers on the network are NEXT workstations.
Please send email to rjevridg@sacam.oren.ortn.edu
--
Thanx,
Bob
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From: tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Memory expansion vs new machine
Date: 06 Jun 1995 19:17:00 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <TIGGR.95Jun6211700@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl>
References: <3r08ta$b8a@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <3r246n$cd9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
In-reply-to: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com's message of 6 Jun 1995 17:44:55 GMT
In article <3r246n$cd9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark) writes:
I've got 28 mb in a mono cube, and the difference between 16 and 28 was
quite noticable back in the NS2.1 days.
A few weeks ago, was able to notice the difference between a 16M and 32M
turbo station. Quite simply, the difference was *amazing*, especially
during compilation jobs (a paradigm which also Fortran programs suffer).
#ifdef OBLIGATORY_PLUG
On the other hand, if you're really looking for
speed, the sparcstation-20s are really hot!
#endif
Really? How much faster than a mono turbo are they? I recently observed a
HP 735/99 (my favourite machine) to be only 3.8 times as fast as a mono
turbo (executing lisp code from my libtl), which is a quite amazingly low
difference, considering that their difference in clock speed is already 3.
So, you only get .8 for all the new technology... --Tiggr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Touch pad (PS2 or serial mouse replacement) for PC hardware
In-Reply-To: ptok@cave.usc.edu's message of 6 Jun 1995 05:01:22 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun6154553@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1995May31.191059.8590@free.fdn.org> <950605144117.354AACUP.malc@daneel>
<3r0itf$k2q@pubxfer4.news.psi.net>
<ptok-0506952111270001@comserv-d-5.usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:45:53 GMT
The ALPS GlidePoint is from Cirque Corporation (Japan.)
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Greg Johnson <ccgreg@showme.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WTB: Where to buy Motorola NeXTs?
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 13:44:25 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950607133810.72824A-100000@showme.missouri.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
There once was an organization or two that bought up NeXT's inventory of
Motorola workstations and printers. I'd like to know how I might reach
them, or anyone in the U.S. selling used or new NeXT/Motorala equipment.
We've gotta spend the money this month!
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mass file renaming
Date: 8 Jun 1995 04:18:46 GMT
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Message-ID: <3r5tn6$squ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
References: <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu>
Matthew Nathaniel Reichman (reichman@phakt.usc.edu) wrote:
: If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the extension "yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I can't seem to find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
Standard UNIX weenieness. Type the following at your prompt:
my_prompt% foreach file (*.hgg)
? cp $file $file:r.yyy
? end
my_prompt% ls -l *.yyy
... [ check to be sure the files are really there ]
my_prompt% rm *.hgg
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____________________________________________________________
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Jordan Hall
Indiana University FAX: 812-855-6705
Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Building satan
Date: 7 Jun 1995 22:04:51 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r549j$5k@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3r1h12$1g0@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw wrote:
: Dear Readers,
: I have installed the latest perl5 bin for intel and m68k successfully on
: my intel-based PC. While trying to build satan 1.0 as NeXTanswer receipe
: stated, I failed . I always get the following message while running
: reconfig:
: jesse:21# reconfig*
: /usr/local/bin/perl: Command not found.
Well, one thing is clear: in /usr/local/bin/perl there's no perl! So I think
your installation of perl was *not* successfully.
: Anyone who can tell me how to solve this problem, I would be very
: appreciated.
Yesterday I've seen somwhere (on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de?) a
perl-Package for NS. (Just wait a moment)
Hey, I've found it!
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/script/
perl5e.NI.b.pkg.tar
: Simon Chih-L Han
: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Maybe that helps?
Rainer
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Subject: SOLVED: Re: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
Message-ID: <3r2inv$gl1@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
From: kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu (Christian Kuhtz)
Date: 6 Jun 1995 16:53:03 -0500
References: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu> <RDL.95Jun3115929@world.std.com>
Organization: IS Research Lab, CBA, University of Northern Iowa
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rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
>Did you try booting with config=Default? If that doesn't work, you can
>always boot up in single user mode, go into /usr/Devices/ATI*.config and
>edit the Instance0.table.
Booting with config=Default failed miserably, but editing the file
Instance0.table in /NextLibrary/Devices/System.config fixed it!
Thanks a lot to all who responded!
Regards,
Chris
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Subject: Re: HELP!! How to recover from wrong video driver?!
Message-ID: <3r2iqq$oe3@isrl.cba.uni.edu>
From: kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu (Christian Kuhtz)
Date: 6 Jun 1995 16:54:34 -0500
References: <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu> <3qq1um$47e@papoose.quick.com>
Organization: IS Research Lab, CBA, University of Northern Iowa
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jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick) writes:
>In article <3qnibi$1hb2@isrl.cba.uni.edu>,
>Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@isrl.cba.uni.edu> wrote:
>>we have selected the wrong resultion/frequency when we tried to configure
>>NEXTSTEP for Intel for use with ATI Mach64 board!
>>
>>How can we change it back to plain VGA from an ASCII screen?...
>From the boot prompt enter:
> config=Default
Unfortunately, that didn't work. See previous posting for solution.
Chris
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From: dmedhi@aazoli.cstp.umkc.edu (Deep Medhi +1 816 235 2006)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q - Why /dev/sd0a identical to swapfile in NS 3.3 on Black?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 18:33:03 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <3r270v$1og@kasey.umkc.edu>
While I did 'df' on my NeXTstation which I loaded very recently with NS 3.3,
I got the following:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/private/vm/swapfile 402253 294450 67577 81%
/private/vm/swapfile.front
/dev/sd0a 402253 294450 67577 81% /
Q: why is sd0a identical to swapfile? I don't think I had it this way when I
was running NS 2.1. Should I be concerned about it?
Thanks.
Deep Medhi
Univ of Missouri-Kansas City
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Memory expansion vs new machine
Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:44:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r246n$cd9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <3r08ta$b8a@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
In article <3r08ta$b8a@news.ccit.arizona.edu> augusto@zeus.uucp (Augusto Rodrigues)
writes:
> I own a Turbo slab (M68040, 33MHz) with 16Mb of RAM,
> and a 400Mb HD. I was thinking in expanding the memory
> to 32 Mb. But I'd like to receive some input from
> other users with regard to realistic expectations
> on performance increase that such an expansion might
> bring me. The main use of the machine is running Fortran
> programs, an ocasional Mathematica session, and for
> everything else speed is not a major concern.
You might have trouble getting a comparable pentium system for $3K. If nothing
else, you'll want to have 32 mb in the pentium too. I've got 28 mb in a mono cube,
and the difference between 16 and 28 was quite noticable back in the NS2.1 days.
NextStep has only gotten more bloated, and you'll notice a substantial improvement
(*especially* for mathematica) with the memory upgrade.
I'd suggest getting the memory first. If that doesn't work out, you might be able
to move the SIMMs to a pentium box.
#ifdef OBLIGATORY_PLUG
On the other hand, if you're really looking for speed, the sparcstation-20s are
really hot!
#endif
Best,
Pete
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From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mass file renaming
Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:07:01 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: How does one rename a large bunch of files?
Keywords: file renaiming
If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the extension "yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I can't seem to find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
Matthew
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From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 8 Jun 1995 07:01:51 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu>
Sorry I do not know the original posting, but I think that somebodies
NewsGrazer.app crashed and s/he is searching for an alternative. I would
suggest to use NewsGrazer and Alexandra together as frontend solution or
tin as backend:
1) NewsGrazer, if you want to uudecode big binaries or have your articles
sorted (crashes sometimes)
2) Alexandra, if you want a newsreader that does NOT crash (no
fontselection, no sort)
3) tin, if you want a cool terminal newsreader (easy to use, only backend)
Greetings
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______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
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From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CD CADDY--WHERE ARE THEY?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 16:20:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3r4jkn$ccs@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Where do you buy the CD Caddy for the NeXT CD-ROM player.
From: kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 13:00:06 -0400
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
Sender: kimmel@linus.oit.umass.edu
Message-ID: <3r4lum$5cc@linus.oit.umass.edu>
Does anyone know what the current academic pricing is on NeXTstep 3.3
Base and Developer for Intel?
Thanks,
-Matt
--
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OIT/Network Systems and Services, LGRC A125 Phone: (413) 545-1605
University of Massachusetts Fax: (413) 545-3203
Amherst, MA 01003 E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu
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Amherst, MA 01003 E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mass file renaming
Date: 8 Jun 1995 06:25:09 -0000
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r6545$8a4@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3r5tn6$squ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Will Fischer writes
> Matthew Nathaniel Reichman (reichman@phakt.usc.edu) wrote:
> : If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the
extension "yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I
can't seem to find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
>
> Standard UNIX weenieness. Type the following at your prompt:
>
> my_prompt% foreach file (*.hgg)
> ? cp $file $file:r.yyy
> ? end
> my_prompt% ls -l *.yyy
> ... [ check to be sure the files are really there ]
> my_prompt% rm *.hgg
> --
There is a small unix program called mmv which should be in the
comp.sources.(misc|unix) archives on ftp.uu.net..
it does just that
digifix> mmv
*.hgg =1.yyy
(Control-D)
I've found it indispensible...
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From: hoff@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mass file renaming
Date: 8 Jun 1995 09:58:42 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <3r6hki$1r7r@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu>
CC: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Matthew Nathaniel Reichman (reichman@phakt.usc.edu) wrote:
>If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the extension
>"yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I can't seem to
>find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
shell>foreach f (*.hgg)
foreach? mv $f `basename $f hgg`.yyy
foreach? end
*zip*
Holger
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From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mass file renaming
Date: 8 Jun 1995 15:00:18 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <3r73a2$iga@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu>
Keywords: file renaiming
In article <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
>If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the extension "yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I can't seem to find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
>
>Matthew
I've used the following cshell script for years to replace any
string in a filename with another:
#!/bin/csh
#
# shell script to rename files
foreach index (*$1*)
echo 'renaming' $index to `(ls $index | sed s/$1/$2/)`
mv -i $index `(ls $index | sed s/$1/$2/)`
end
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.org.issnnet
From: toni@usenix.org (Toni Veglia)
Subject: USENIX 1996 Technical Conference - Call-for-Papers
Message-ID: <D9tw8o.50x@usenix.org>
Organization: USENIX Association, Berkeley, CA
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:34:00 GMT
ANNOUCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
USENIX 1996 TECHNICAL CONFERENCE
January 22-26, 1996, San Diego, CA
Wanted: Papers for the 1996 USENIX Technical Conference.
Besides papers on hot application topics such as privacy,
cryptography, user interface toolkits, nomadic and wireless
computing, there will be a special focus on operating systems
practice and experience. OS structure, organization, support for
embedded systems, real time and multimedia, and interaction with
hardware architecture are only a few of the topics we'd like to
see covered.
===========================================
Extended Abstracts deadline: July 18, 1995
===========================================
*To get more information about this event, please access the
USENIX World Wide Web site: http://www.usenix.org
*Send email to the USENIX mailserver at: info@usenix.org.
Your message should contain the line: "send sandiego96 conferences"
*Or, watch comp.org.usenix for full postings.
From: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: problems with loginwindow dying
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 8 Jun 1995 09:23:06 GMT
Organization: CSEG, University of York, UK.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r6fhq$hlh@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3q26l2$efe@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
In article <3q26l2$efe@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Rick Gray (rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu) wrote:
>We've recently had a series of problems on many of our Nextstep
>machines. The problem is independent of hardware (occurring so far on
>a 25 MHz cube, 25 MHz slab, Color turbo, and 100 MHz Pentium). In each
>case, upon logout, no login window appears. Checking
>/usr/adm/messages shows they all contain similar messages:
We've got the same problem here (only happened once to us so far
though....). In our /usr/adm/messages we got the following (edited to
remove date/hostname so it fits on one line):
loginwindow[219]: Workspace exited (ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0).
loginwindow[219]: error loading packages
loginwindow[219]: netinfo problem 9999, - Communication failure
loginwindow[219]: creating new loginImage
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: currentwindowdict ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: winexec ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: currentgstate ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: winexec ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setgstate ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: winexec ]%%
loginwindow[219]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: activeApp ]%%
This machine is our netinfo master, and the other machines on the net
are running fine, so I find it a little odd that the errors suggest
netinfo problems.
>In short, I'm baffled and am asking for help to try to correct this
>problem.
Baffled too..... Anyone got any ideas?
>--
>Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
>Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
>Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
--
Colin Perkins
Computer Systems Engineering Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk
Department of Electronics, Phone: (+44) 1904 432379
University of York, York, UK. WWW: http://asegweb.ohm.york.ac.uk/csp/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jlummel@caprica.com (James Lummel)
Subject: Allen-Bradley Datahighway and NextStep Intel
Sender: news@caprica.com
Organization: Caprica Internet Services (213)-526-1195 modem, (213)-266-0822 voice
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:35:09 GMT
Message-ID: <D9twAM.8DG@caprica.com>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ]
[ Author was James Lummel ]
[ Posted on Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:22:58 GMT ]
Does anyone know if you can use Allen-Bradley datahighway cards under
NextStep (Intel)? There are a few DOS apps for the AB card, has anyone
tested these under the a DOS emulator? Can you access hardware directly
under the DOS emulator? Anyone who has worked with these or anything
like these (data capture), please tell me your experiences. :-) Thanks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: a little story: buying by email
Organization: Mr Bill Show
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:54:35 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun7.165435.25635@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <3qkhqh$9j8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Matthias Imhof <mgi@ERL.MIT.EDU> writes:
>the players are:
> my wife and me
> david briggman, Paradigm Shift Corp, paradigm@mercury.interpath.net
> a common friend, an inbetween
>
>please draw your own conclusions
< A story that has been seen before deleted >
David Briggman has yet to send me what he owes (a friggin' mouse for black
hardware) and it has been almost three years. Once in a while he tells me
he has troubles with my address, that he will Fedex it, that it is in the
mail ...
I guess it is true, a sucker is born every minute! :-(
If David Briggman is using the Mux Serial Driver, or the ScanFX colour
scanner driver, I would ask that he please remove it from his system as I
would like to express an interest in protecting my copyrights until such
time as he has paid for it's use, *and* provided me the mouse or
renumeration (and software products he promised last time in apology for
failing to send it promptly).
In the meanwhile, I *strongly* encourage all who will be considering any
business dealings with David Briggman, consider alternatives, cancel checks
and stay away from the fellow like the pox. I have resisted saying this on
the net in the past since David had promised to deliver, but after almost
three years of this crap, I seriously doubt the man is of his word.
There aught to be a David Briggman FAQ, and if no one steps forward soon, I
would be pleased to compile and post the FAQ on a regular basis.
Enjoy -- Mark Salyzyn
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 02:00:58 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r318q$kof@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3r03cu$moc@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Sandra Christensen writes
> Kurniawan Darmawangsa (kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : I try to contact them. I had their phone number for a while.
> : Unfortunately I tossed it away. Nobody picked up the phone.
> : I guess they are really dead....
Yeah, the press release just went out. They really are dead. Look for
the notice on CSNA.
-- Ernie P.
--
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NeXT mail:ernest@caltech.edu "...your servants for Jesus' sake."
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmld - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pjb8t@petekel (Peter-john Byrnes)
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
Message-ID: <D9s4yJ.5Kz@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <3qvu8f$6qq@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:47:07 GMT
In article <3qvu8f$6qq@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
(David Hill) writes:
> In article <RDL.95Jun5145910@world.std.com>,
> Robert La Ferla <rdl@world.std.com> wrote:
> >Does the magazine NeXT In Line still exist? If so, how do you
contact them?
> >
> >Robert
>
> Try "rob@bedazzled.com". Please let me know what you discover.
>
> Snail address: PO Box 392, Berryville, VA 22611
>
> Phone: (703) 955-5045
>
> Good luck.
>
> david
> --------
I called them this week (before I discovered this thread), as I was
thinking of subscribing. I got an answering machine, which told
current subscribers that they were working on the issue, and it would
be out soon, and they were sorry, and that we should all please be
patient.
Make of it what you will. I must admit that I elected not to
subscribe until I heard that there actually was a new issue.
I should also state for the record that after writing them to request
a sample issue, I received said sample in short order, and enjoyed it
immensely, and *would* subscribe in short order if I heard that they
were coming close to their shipping dates.
--
Peter-john Byrnes
Online Scholarship Initiative 804/924-3169
Electronic Text Center byrnes@virginia.edu
University of Virginia (NeXT/MIMEmail OK)
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: test post, do not read
Date: 7 Jun 1995 11:11:27 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3r41gv$pm7@metro.atlanta.com>
this is a test post
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenStep on HP?
Date: 8 Jun 1995 15:54:41 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3r76g1$2jf5@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: openstep hp hppa
has anyone heard anything recently on the status of OpenStep
on HP platforms?
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <D9tI62.IxF@waldo.com>
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca> <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> <3qk967$10hg@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:30:02 GMT
There is, unfortunately, no way for DOS machines to read Amiga 880k disks.
The reason lies in the PC hardware.
I know because I had an Amiga before, and there were many discussions of this.
However, I'm not sure about the NeXT. More info would be interesting.
Matt
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Q - Why /dev/sd0a identical to swapfile in NS 3.3 on Black?
In-Reply-To: dmedhi@aazoli.cstp.umkc.edu's message of 6 Jun 1995 18:33:03 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun6231022@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3r270v$1og@kasey.umkc.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 03:10:22 GMT
You need not worry. This is normal. It is telling you that your swapfile
resides on your primary SCSI disk. If you have a secondary hard drive, you
can make it a swapdisk or put the swapfile on it. Depending on the speed of
the secondary drive, it should improve performance and provide a small degree
of protection should your disk ever fill up.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line?
In-Reply-To: pjb8t@petekel's message of Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:47:07 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun6232133@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qvu8f$6qq@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <D9s4yJ.5Kz@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 03:21:33 GMT
I now know what the "good luck" was for at the end of the reply to my post. :-)
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:47:50 GMT
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Memory expansion vs new machine
Date: 7 Jun 1995 14:29:47 GMT
Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r4d4s$idt@emerald.oz.net>
References: <TIGGR.95Jun6211700@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl>
In article <TIGGR.95Jun6211700@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl> tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl
(Pieter Schoenmakers) writes:
> A few weeks ago, was able to notice the difference between a 16M and 32M
> turbo station. Quite simply, the difference was *amazing*, especially
> during compilation jobs (a paradigm which also Fortran programs suffer).
>
And if you add the -pipe flag to cc with all that extra memory,
compilations should be even faster because all intermediate code will be
kept in memory rather than written to and read from disk.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Re: Is it worth the upgrade?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 14:37:50 GMT
Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/, info@sensemedia.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r4dju$ig3@emerald.oz.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606213122.29146C-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
In article
<Pine.SUN.3.91.950606213122.29146C-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
"Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu> writes:
> i am also considering moving to risc machines from my pc (which i would
> undoubtedly say IT's SOOOO slow [66mhz dx2]). well anyways, do you know,
> by chance that installation on the sun require a sun cd-rom, or maybe pc
> cd-roms would work? in your opinion, which performs better--hp 712/60 or
> sun sparcstation (what model were you running it on)? thanx! :-)
>
Although I've never been a fan of Intel's 80x86 architecture, its
wonderful segmented memory, etc., I have to admit that they're squeezing a
lot of performance out of their CISC Pentium CPU. In terms of pure
benchmark comparisons, the 120 MHz. Pentium is right up there with the
fastest RISC CPU's. If someone would wrap a true workstation architecture
around one of these, it would probably make a very snappy workstation. In
fact, PCI-based systems seem to have eliminated many of the bottlenecks in
the archaic PC architecture.
I guess with all the cash Intel is wallowing in, they can afford to do
whatever is necessary to get more speed.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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From: mgilula@gate.net (Marshall F. Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DMS compression
Date: 8 Jun 1995 09:09:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.90.950608100653.359C-100000@localhost>
I am trying to access some files on a DOS disk
the files use something called DMS compression, and I
have been unable to find out what DMS is or means.
Anyone out there have a clue?
TIA,
-73-
Marshall
mgilula@gate.net (pardon the hosed header)
Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que busca mucho nada encuentra, pero
mgilula@gate.net el que busca nada mucho encuentra"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: CD CADDY--WHERE ARE THEY?
In-Reply-To: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu's message of 7 Jun 1995 16:20:39 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun9004922@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3r4jkn$ccs@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 04:49:22 GMT
At any computer store. Just ask for a CD-ROM caddy. They cost anywhere from
$2-$15.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Matthias Imhof <mgi@ERL.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mass file renaming
Date: 8 Jun 1995 14:40:19 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3r724j$tm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu>
Keywords: perl
In article <3r5pgl$d1f@phakt.usc.edu> reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel
Reichman) writes:
> If I wanted to rename all my files with the extension "hgg" to have the
extension "yyy" - how? copy doesn't work (old dos mannerism on my part) and I
can't seem to find the solution for such a simple question in the man pages.
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> "Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
use perl. there is a nice perl script in the perl book (camel) called rename. a
copy is appended at the end. for your problem, it would be used as follows:
rename 's/hgg/yyy/' *.hgg
notice that within the '' you can have any expression in perl. thus you can use
tr to translate character codes (e.g. upper -> lower). you can add extensions
by '$_ .= ".ext"' or do anything you are used to do in sed/perl with s///
matthias
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#!/usr/local/bin/perl
# Usage: rename perlexpr [files]
($op = shift) || die "Usage: rename perlexpr [filenames]\n";
if (!@ARGV) {
@ARGV = <STDIN>;
chop(@ARGV);
}
for (@ARGV) {
$was = $_;
eval $op;
die $@ if $@;
rename($was,$_) unless $was eq $_;
}
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line? Openstep Solution is the last in line
Date: 9 Jun 1995 03:19:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r8ej9$9u3@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606214414.29146D-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
In <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606214414.29146D-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
"Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu> writes:
>
>well folks, just got an announcement in comp.sys.next.announce, next
in
>line has decided to stop their publication... Damn! I hated when that
>happens, every time I thought some magazine was great, and subscribe
to
>it, it went away--first it's nextworld, now next in line. :-((
I got the latest Openstep solution, supplement from Object Magazine.
I hate it. It just have several wimpy articles. The supplement are
targeted for manager not for programmer.
I read the announcement about the Next in Line latest fate. I can not
believe it, that NeXT Computer didn't even want to put an ad in this
magazine. I just wander who is in charge in the marketing side of Next.
I am furious about this situation. NeXT is out of business if it kept
screw up on the marketing side. I am seriously thinking to move back to
Windoze programming. After trying to convince several of my friends to
at least try to use NS, I am angry that even NeXT didn't do something
about Next in Line.
So what next ? Are they listenning.......
Kurniawan
From: transtec@interaccess.com (Transtech, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.contract
Subject: US-IL-Chicago : Position: NeXTSTEP w/ UNIX, C, RDBMS
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:12:43 -0600
Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <transtec.25.04801DAB@interaccess.com>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP, Next, UNIX, C
Currrent Needs : NeXTSTEP
In Addition (+) : UNIX, C, RDBMS
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Type : Permanent or Contract
Industry : Banking / Financial
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* Numerous levels of positions (No Entry Level)
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For IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION, please send your resume in confidence to:
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FAX: 708-717-0909
TEL: 800-676-7374 ext.22
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From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 09:53:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk
Message-ID: <3r95m4$1p6@odin.diku.dk>
References: <3r4lum$5cc@linus.oit.umass.edu>
kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel) writes:
>Does anyone know what the current academic pricing is on NeXTstep 3.3
>Base and Developer for Intel?
>Thanks,
>-Matt
The 3.2 -> 3.3 is in the US $99 and in Europe $135.
But my local NeXT pusher tells me that it only contains the developer part.
So you will also need the Base = User part. Price ? I have no idea,
except expensive.
--Allan
--viggo@diku.dk
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXT PEOPLE NEEDED IN MADRID
Date: 5 Jun 1995 09:10:09 GMT
Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS
Message-ID: <3quhlh$g8c$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Need people with experience in NextStep for Intel in Madrid for
occassional projects. English/Spanish languages.
Please answer with personal E-mail to:
72332.3705@compuserve.com
Or Tel: 34 1 6779774
Fax: 34 1 6772649
Jesus Izquierdo
From: Peter Schoen <100103.133@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FIXED PITCH fonts
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:04:20 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3qv2t4$j8o$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Hi !
I am looking for a FIXED PITCH font for NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel), that
supports the IBM extended graphical character font set. Does
anybody know where to get one ?
All the best
Peter Schoen
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXT In Line? Openstep Solution is the last in line
Date: 9 Jun 1995 05:24:33 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r8luh$h1@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3r8ej9$9u3@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
In article <3r8ej9$9u3@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com
(Kurniawan Darmawangsa) writes:
> In <Pine.SUN.3.91.950606214414.29146D-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
> "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu> writes:
> >
> >well folks, just got an announcement in comp.sys.next.announce, next
> in
> >line has decided to stop their publication... Damn! I hated when that
> >happens, every time I thought some magazine was great, and subscribe
> to
> >it, it went away--first it's nextworld, now next in line. :-((
>
> I got the latest Openstep solution, supplement from Object Magazine.
> I hate it. It just have several wimpy articles. The supplement are
> targeted for manager not for programmer.
>
> I read the announcement about the Next in Line latest fate. I can not
> believe it, that NeXT Computer didn't even want to put an ad in this
> magazine. I just wander who is in charge in the marketing side of Next.
> I am furious about this situation. NeXT is out of business if it kept
> screw up on the marketing side. I am seriously thinking to move back to
> Windoze programming. After trying to convince several of my friends to
> at least try to use NS, I am angry that even NeXT didn't do something
> about Next in Line.
>
> So what next ? Are they listenning.......
>
> Kurniawan
You'll learn quickly that you better own asbestos underwear if you're
going to post heresy like this here in comp.sys.next.xxxx
I just thought I'd take this opportunity to mention a third magazine that
no one has mentioned so far. We know that NeXT drove NeXTWORLD out of
business (on purpose, no less), but they had already lined up a new
publishing sucker at the time....this one was in Texas....NeXTReview.
They lasted about a second and a half....got no cooperation from
NeXT...and went the way of all the publications that focused on NS.
I can only speculate, but I'd wager that any magazine that will not give
Steve Jobs editorial control will never get advertising from NeXT.
Thus...no magazines, no advertising...no public awareness. The Steve Jobs
Marketing and Sales Prevention Team "succeeds" again.
Steve
From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Date: 10 Jun 1995 18:44:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Message-ID: <3rcp74$u09@uwm.edu>
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca> <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> <3qk967$10hg@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>
In comp.sys.next.misc (<1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>),Mike Davis (miked@ittpub.nl) wrote:
| I'm sure that there must be a DOS based reader for Amiga disks. Afterall, the
| format's not that different and both are MFM. Try ask around in one
|of the Amiga
| groups for DOS conversion. Maybe they can help.
| If your NeXT machine's a PC box then it's just a case of putting the
|DOS floppies in.
| One thing to remember is that you may well have to do some character
| translations,
| certainly <CR><LF> to <LF> at some point. Unix provides a tool
|called "tr" which
| might help you there.
Amiga systems using >AmigaOS 2.1 have CrossDos installed; they are
capable of reading and writing DOS disks innately. CrossDos supports
changing CR/LF on the fly, as well. If you have a HD Amiga drive, you
can also read/write high-density 1.44 meg dos disks.
As for accessing Amiga disks on a PC, good luck. Finding a floppy
controller capable of that would be quite a find; most are too
constricted to allow the sector/byte format that Amigas use.
Greg
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From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep on HP?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 20:04:00 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3ra9fh$1j2@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <3r76g1$2jf5@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Kelley Wittmeyer (kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
: has anyone heard anything recently on the status of OpenStep
: on HP platforms?
As far as I know, there has never been an OpenStep/HPUX implementation
that's been announced.
You can, however, get NeXTstep for PA-RISC machines, and when version 4.0
comes out, it will be OpenStep compliant.
Does anybody else know anything different than this?
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: Peter Schoen <100103.133@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: LaTex2e & NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 5 Jun 1995 17:27:21 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3qvepp$7r4$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Hi !
I have recently installed LaTex2e on my NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel)
system.
While running the ltxcheck.tex file, which checks the
installation, the program reports one (good luck it's only one)
error:
"Checking the input path:
article.cls appears to be in the current directory.
If this is the case...
If article.cls is not in the current directory, then you need
to edit texsys.cfg. If nothing works, add:
/let/@currdir/@empty "
Well, article.cls is NOT in the current directory and adding
"/let/@currdir/@empty" to the texsys.cfg file did not help to
solve the problem.
In fact, it seems that texsys.cfg doesn't even get processed.
Maybe I have put texsys.cfg in the wrong directory, currently
it is in /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs. If that's wrong, please
tell me the correct directory.
What exactly do I have to add to the texsys.cfg to solve the
problem ?
All the best
Peter Schoen
From: Peter Schoen <100103.133@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTstep 3.3 Intel & fax modem
Date: 5 Jun 1995 17:40:24 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3qvfi8$7r4$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Hi !
I have some nasty problems with NeXTstep's 3.3 (Intel) fax
software:
I have an ELSA MicroLink 28800 TL V34 Modem and there are no
problems when using this modem with standard fax software for
MS-WIndows, etc.. The modem supports fax speeds up to 14.400
and is Class 2 compatible.
First of all, does anybody know, which fax modem type I should
choose from the 'Create Fax' window of NeXTstep's print manager:
- Interfax fax modem or
- HSD fax modem.
(I have never heard of these products.)
But, no matter if I choose Interfax or HSD, there is the always
same problem:
After the first page has been arrived at the remote fax, the
connection is being closed, but the fax-queue of NeXTstep still
reports the status "printing". (And this status won't change.)
When I then try to perform a shutdown, the system locks up.
It is also not possible, to delete the fax modem entry now.
To delete it, I must first reboot NeXTstep.
I have already tried different handshake configurations
(software and hardware handshake) but that didn't solve the
problem.
Does somebody has a suggestion, how I can get my fax modem
to work under NeXTstep 3.3 properly ?
All the best
Peter Schoen
From: Peter Schoen <100103.133@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: function keys & NeXTstep 3.3 editor
Date: 5 Jun 1995 17:41:37 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3qvfkh$7r4$3@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Hi !
I would like to use the function keys (Insert, Home, Del, PageUp,
PageDown) while working with the NeXTstep (3.3, Intel) Editor.
Currently, this is not possible.
Can somebody tell, how I can turn this feature on ?
All the best
Peter Schoen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jliu@DATAP.CA (Joshua Liu)
Subject: help on IPC
Message-ID: <1995Jun8.163017.7675@datap.ca>
Sender: cnews@datap.ca
Organization: Sandwell Inc. Datap Systems Division, Calgary
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 16:30:17 GMT
Hi All,
I have several processes runing on different platforms (Sun/Sparc/Solaris,
Alpha/OSF1, Pentium/NT to name a few). Now I have need for those
processes to talk to each other. I want to know what is the best
way to implement those interprocess communication.
As I understand, socket would be one way to implement these. I am
not sure if winsock API would be the same as in BSD socket.
If you know that there are libraries package that can provide platform
independent API for interprocess communication, Could you send me some
info to:
jliu@datap.ca
Your help will be appreciated. Thank you for your attention.
--Joshua
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Another Digital Webster word
Date: 10 Jun 1995 21:30:40 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rd2u0$1fkq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Well... its been awhile since this thread was active, but here goes:
Under 3.2, lookup
'esthetically'
in Digital Webster and note the suggested correction...
- Steve
P.S. OK, ok... I'll save you the trouble:
estheticestheticianestheticisme
No lie!
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Date: 10 Jun 1995 15:00:21 -0700
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com
Message-ID: <140239@cup.portal.com>
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca> <D9Es07.B27@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
<3qk967$10hg@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>
<D9tI62.IxF@waldo.com>
>There is, unfortunately, no way for DOS machines to read Amiga 880k disks.
>The reason lies in the PC hardware.
>
>I know because I had an Amiga before, and there were many discussions of this.
>
>However, I'm not sure about the NeXT. More info would be interesting.
Just brainstorming here: Maybe you're going about this from the wrong angle.
Instead of trying to write an Amiga file-system module for the Next, you
should try for a NeXT file-system module for the Amiga. We already know
that it's possible for Amigas to read/write DOS disks, and we know that PC
machines can read/write NeXT disks. Therefore it seems likely that an Amiga
with the appropriate driver could read/write NeXT disks.
-- lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
--
-- "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered
-- by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." -- Ayn Rand
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 10 Jun 1995 22:06:20 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rd50s$qq3@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3ra8lt$4cl@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3ra8lt$4cl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
[Accurate academic prices, etc...]
> All-in-all, NeXT still provides a pretty major discount for
> academic customers.
Yep...the only thing stopping NeXT from being a major academic player is
the price of RAM. Everything else has come down within reach of the
academic community. For some odd reason RAM isn't following the same
pattern. I wonder if it would be possible to bundle RAM with software?
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Another Digital Webster word
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 18:05:38 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950610180246.15319C-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
References: <3rd2u0$1fkq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3rd2u0$1fkq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
i noticed problems like this as well! although not in the digital
webster--but when i do spell checks in word processors like edit; the spell
check box come up with misspelled words (i did not add them, honest!).
so much for checking your spelling... :-)
From: Tom_Termini@csgi.com (Tom Termini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Web server software for NeXT
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:10:44 -5
Organization: digitalNATION@DCA
Message-ID: <1255382.ensmtp@csgi.com>
i'd like to use my NeXT 'cube as a Web server...any ideas on software?
From: sgo470@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Shelly D. Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WANTED: Cables for mice
Date: 9 Jun 1995 18:41:13 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
Message-ID: <3ra4k9$lsa@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I'm looking for cables for Next computer mice. I have a couple that have
become intermittant over the years.
Please respond to lonnie@calvin.medicine.nwu.edu .
thanks,
Lonnie Harger
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 19:50:21 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ra8lt$4cl@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3r95m4$1p6@odin.diku.dk>
viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard) writes:
> kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel) writes:
>
> > Does anyone know what the current academic pricing is on NeXTstep
> > 3.3 Base and Developer for Intel?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Matt
>
> The 3.2 -> 3.3 is in the US $99 and in Europe $135.
> But my local NeXT pusher tells me that it only contains the
> developer part. So you will also need the Base = User part.
> Price ? I have no idea, except expensive.
Sigh. If one has no idea of the answer to a question, then why
answer the question?
For a person buying for the first time, the academic price for
NeXTSTEP 3.3 is around $300 (in the US). This gets you
both the user and developer (and probably gets you EOF too).
People who already owned NeXTSTEP 3.2 could get the User upgrade
to NeXTSTEP 3.3 (which came out last December) for something like
$190. There was no academic discount on this upgrade, and the
upgrade only upgraded the User portion.
When NeXTSTEP 3.3 Developer was released, NeXT had an academic
price for the developer upgrade which was about $100. This
upgrade wouldn't do you any good unless you already had NS-3.3
User. The idea was that if an academic user *had* bought the
NS-3.3 User upgrade back in december, they should be able to
get the NS-3.3 developer for the difference between that price
($190) and the price for getting the whole package ($300).
I'm not sure that the $100 upgrade price for NS-3.3 Developer
is still available. However, academic users can still buy
the entire NS-3.3 package for the $300 (or so) price. They
have one product which gives you *both* NS/m68k *and* NS/Intel,
which should solve the headaches people have had getting
upgrades for NeXT hardware. NASCORP knew how to sell a *new*
copy of NeXTSTEP, but they kept getting confused when people
asked for upgrades for NeXT hardware.
You should also be able to get NS/HP or NS/SPARC for academic
users, at the same $300. I believe these are separate products
though, so you need to specify that you want the version for
HP hardware, or the version for Sun hardware, if that's what
you want.
All-in-all, NeXT still provides a pretty major discount for
academic customers.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web server software for NeXT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Jun 1995 12:45:27 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3reoh7$goj@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <1255382.ensmtp@csgi.com>
Summary: Web server for a NeXT Cube
Keywords: NCSA httpd 1.4.1
Tom_Termini@csgi.com (Tom Termini) wrote:
>i'd like to use my NeXT 'cube as a Web server...any ideas on software?
NCSA httpd_1.4.1 works fine for me. Grab the generic source files from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu and
"make next" after reading the docs. Enjoy!
---
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert/
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP public key available for secure messages *
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 21:38:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3raf1d$ka4@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3r4lum$5cc@linus.oit.umass.edu>
Matt Kimmel (kimmel@nic.umass.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know what the current academic pricing is on NeXTstep 3.3
: Base and Developer for Intel?
The academic bundle for 3.3 includes both User and Developer. Our campus
computer store quoted me $270 today for it.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web server software for NeXT
Date: 11 Jun 1995 15:03:34 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rf0k6$5r8@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3reoh7$goj@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
In article <3reoh7$goj@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Kevin Hiebert
<khiebert@wimsey.com> writes:
> Tom_Termini@csgi.com (Tom Termini) wrote:
>
> >i'd like to use my NeXT 'cube as a Web server...any ideas on software?
>
> NCSA httpd_1.4.1 works fine for me. Grab the generic source files from
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu and
> "make next" after reading the docs. Enjoy!
I upgraded to httpd_1.4.1 last week and took a big performance hit.
I tried reducing the number of servers, etc., but finally gave
up an went back to httpd_1.3. Things are now back to normal.
Anybody else have this problem? Fixes?
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates)
Subject: Help! Poor performance on Sparc floppy drive
Message-ID: <lorgbD9xnzu.8IL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 01:26:18 GMT
Sender: lorgb@netcom12.netcom.com
It took 45 minutes to delete 1.2 meg file from the floppy.
I guess you got the picture.
Here is my configuration:
SPARCstation 20, 160M RAM, 1 Gig Hard Drive
Nextstep 3.3
I will appreciate if anyone give me a hint/patch to speed up
the floppy drive.
Thanks.
From: Roger Brisson <75602.520@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is it worthwhile to upgrade?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 11:29:39 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3r1e73$3lm$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
References: <3qkh16$6kc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
After researching a purchase of a new Pentium or PowerMac vs
upgrading my NeXTstation, I decided it was more economical and
made more computing sense to upgrade. Besides, the computer
industry is moving too fast at the moment to justify handing out
$3-4000 for a machine that will probably start looking old before
it's a year old (I'm hearing that 120 mHz machines will be
considered standard within a year). The NeXT is still an
impressive machine, and who knows, in another couple of years
they may become collector's items.
Roger Brisson
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cambridge ANIMO = Dreamsworks DAD project
Date: 9 Jun 1995 15:02:36 GMT
Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS
Message-ID: <3r9nqc$74a$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
References: <9506021838.AA26404@priscilla.dt.navy.mil>
>I was just going over the news release about the recently
>announced deal between Silicon Graphics and the
>Dreamworks SKG organization and they mentioned that the ANIMO 2D
>software that is currently only running
>under NS3.3 will be a part of this large studio configuration -
>it sounds as if the package will be ported from NS
>over to the SGI IRIX platform - I was posting to see if anyone
>else has heard the details about this. Thanks
>Bob Kurhajetz
>US Navy NSWC CD
>Bethesda, MD 20084-5000
Bob:
That's right. ANIMO will be offered as well for Silicon Graphics
platforms after approximately 9 months from now. A press release
has been made public at the ANNECY show last week. You can take
more details contacting with Cambridge Animation Sytems in UK,
Tom Swan, Sales Director, tom@cam-ani.co.uk
Regards:
Jesus Izquierdo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: xiaomin@ets.com (Xiaomin Wu)
Subject: Any Taylor UUCP customers using UUPSI
Message-ID: <D9xD2L.213@ets.com>
Sender: xiaomin@ets.com (Xiaomin Wu)
Organization: ETS, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 21:30:20 GMT
I am trying to install Taylor UUCP connection with UUPSI. I have a Taylor
UUCP connection with UUNET. I was wondering if anyone has installed Taylor
UUCP linking with UUPSI recently on their box and if they could send me
their sys port dail files or any suggestions/hints that could be of help
to me.
Please respond by email.
Xiaomin
email: xiaomin@ets.com
xwu@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <D9vntJ.1Bp@zoodle.robin.de>
Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Organization: meow!!!
References: <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:27:18 GMT
Hi!
Mike Davis writes
> I'm sure that there must be a DOS based reader for Amiga disks. Afterall, the
> format's not that different and both are MFM. Try ask around in one of the
> Amiga groups for DOS conversion. Maybe they can help.
>
> If your NeXT machine's a PC box then it's just a case of putting the DOS
> floppies in.
>
> One thing to remember is that you may well have to do some character
> translations, certainly <CR><LF> to <LF> at some point. Unix provides a tool
> called "tr" which might help you there.
Argl.
No way.
Even if Amiga disks are MFM this doesn't mean that the sector format is
identical. PCs (and Ataris and NeXTs and SUNs and HPs and most other computers
nowadays) use a format where you have a track header, followed by usually
18 sectors which have a sync, a header, a gap, another sync, the data, another
gap each. All of these, track header, syncs, gap (sizes), checksum (over both,
header and data) have to be in the usual format so that a PC floppy controller
(or something that's compatible) can read/write it.
The Amiga floppy controller might as well be called 68000. At least the chip
that's supporting the 68k is much more flexible than a standard PC floppy
controller. That is, you're free with what kind of sector format you want
to use. And Commodore chose something different from the PC stuff. So no
normal PC can read a standard Amiga diskette. On the other hand, the Amiga
can very well read and write PC disks, it just programs its floppy controller
way different.
There are three other layers that are important with floppies. One is software,
that is, the file system. Software is never a real problem, for example you
can get Macintosh disks (at least 1.44M), PC disks and native NEXTSTEP disks to
work with NEXTSTEP. Hardware is (one of) the problem(s) with the 800KB
Macintosh disks: the Mac drives rotate at a different speed on different
tracks, which would mean variable bit rate on a fixed speed drive.
The thirs layer is the encoding scheme. Here you might have GCR (Commodore C64,
or rather it's floppy, the 1541 and derivates, as well as Macintosh 800KB's),
you might have MFM (almost everything else), you might have both (Amigas and
Macintoshes can read/write both, MFM and GCR), you even might have something
completely different (anyone thought about realizing an RLL encoded floppy
format??), or even more completely different (MFM is just a special case of
RLL).
To summarise:
- Amigas use MFM, but can use GCR as well. The same is valid for Macintoshes.
- Amigas use the same hardware (floppy drive, floppies). This isn't true for
Macintoshes.
- Amigas use a different sector format, but can use PC-like format as well.
The same is valid for Macintoshes.
- Amigas use a different file system, but can use FAT file system as well.
The same is valid for Macintoshes.
- PCs (and most other computers) use MFM (no 800KB Mac, no 170KB C64)
- PCs (and most other computers) can only use PC-like sector format (no 800KB
Mac, no 880KB Amiga, no 170KB C64, ...)
- PCs (and most if not all other computers) can use various file systems (more
easy with something different than MS-DOS though)
- PCs and NeXTs have very similar floppy systems. Only important differences:
motor eject, 2.88 MB (seldom found in PCs), and *slow* speed of the NeXT
drive.
So the real problem with the Amiga disks is the different sector format, which
cannot be undone without either letting the Amiga writing DOS disks or adding
very custom hardware to a PC.
The 'Argl' at the beginning was caused by the assumption that to bring an
Amiga text file to the NEXTSTEP environment you'd have to translate the file.
Obviously true for special characters. 'tr' is even the right tool. But
Amiga-OS and UNIXes are two Operating Systems which both use the UNIX way
of encoding linefeeds by just having a LF character. On the other hand,
Edit.app doesn't have *any* problem with a file using CRLF. Emacs shows
ugly ^m's, but Edit.app doesn't.
Bye,
Uli
--
"Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16."
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Geneva font
Date: 11 Jun 1995 13:03:19 -0700
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <3rfi67$6js@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
Is there a way to get the Geneva font used on the Mac, or one that looks like
it, for the NeXT? I couldn't find it on the fonts directory of
ftp.cs.orst.edu. Thanks in advance for any information or pointers.
- Trent Lange
lange@cs.ucla.edu
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: System 7 Mac Floppies in NS 3.2
Date: 10 Jun 1995 13:39:30 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3rc7ai$kqv@newstand.syr.edu>
I have NS 3.2 installed and find that I am unable to read MAC floppies
formatted under system 7 or later. I can read older mac floppies just fine.
Do I need to add a diskcap entry or install a special filter ? ( I really
can't afford to upgrade to 3.3 right now :-( ) TIA
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Re: text format conversion problems
Message-ID: <1995Jun11.185905.1987@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
References: <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 18:59:05 GMT
In article <3qnsve$8hn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James
Beauchamp) writes:
> I recently received (via email) a bin-hex copy of a Microsoft Word file.
> Someone graciously converted this to an .rtf file for me, so I now have
this
> on my NeXT. When I do 'open' on this file it comes up under 'edit', but
then
> I lose all of the special fonts.
>
> Is there a way to view .rtf on the NeXT without losing the fonts?
Hi. I know this topic is a bit old, but felt compelled to add my 2cents
anyway.
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by `loosing fonts'.
If you mean, say, that the document was originally formatted in (say) Geneva
on the source machine (evidently a Mac), and you don't have that type (font)
on your NeXT, then you'd have to buy the PostScript type to install on your
machine.
Alternately, if the type was one of the standard variety (Times, Helvetica,
etc) that you also have on your NeXT, then you simply need to alter the
names in the rtf file using the methods described in other replies. Also,
the Convert RTF program on the `orst' ftp site (ftp.cs.orst.edu if I
rememember right) and perhaps the purdue site will do a basic set of
renamings automatically for you.
NOTE: if the original document was opened and then resaved on a Mac that did
not have the original type installed on it (e.g. the document used font X,
but when it was converted to rtf, the machine did not have X installed),
it's probable that the type information was lost *before* it was ever
written to rtf, so none of the above schemes would work.
> Is there a way to convert .rtf files to WriteNow files?
As far as I know, on the NeXT, there isn't. If you know someone with
WriteNow on the Mac (at least 2.x. Maybe 3.x and later can save in version 2
format) they can read it in, and save it as a writenow file and send that as
a binary file to you.
> Is there a way to convert bin-hex files to their binary equivalents?
On the NeXT, one can always use Executor. Alternately, I think Opener will
do this some. I'm not sure how this would have helped in this particular
case though.
Hope some of this is of some use somewhere.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
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Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 02:06:59 GMT
>From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)>Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
>Date: 8 Jun 1995 07:01:51 GMT
>Message-Id: <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
>Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
>
>Sorry I do not know the original posting, but I think that somebodies
>NewsGrazer.app crashed and s/he is searching for an alternative. I would
>suggest to use NewsGrazer and Alexandra together as frontend solution or
>tin as backend:
>
>1) NewsGrazer, if you want to uudecode big binaries or have your articles
>sorted (crashes sometimes)
>
>2) Alexandra, if you want a newsreader that does NOT crash (no
>fontselection, no sort)
>
>3) tin, if you want a cool terminal newsreader (easy to use, only backend)
>
I just recently downloaded the demo copy of Eloquent which is a combined
Mailer (NeXTmail, MIME, etc.) and newsreader. As a Mailer, it has very nice
features. The same is true as a newsreader.
As a newsreader, it supports threaded browsing of articles as well as sorted
reading (date, subject, etc.). It also supports the filing of articles into
mailboxes so you have the regular Mail browser ability to search, read
articles, reply, etc.
Very nice. I just bought it even though I always liked NewsGrazer and
there's a nice application, News2mbox by Brian Willoughby, that allows you
save NewsGrazer articles to mailboxes.
___
cfwaltrip
email: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
NeXTmail welcome.
//////////////////////////////////////Opinions expressed are my own.
If I said anything that made you think I might know what I'm talking
about, please disregard it./////////////////////////////////////////
From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 11:11:58 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rh7du$4f7@neptune.ethz.ch>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
: 3) tin, if you want a cool terminal newsreader (easy to use, only backend)
Since several people asked me about a tin binary, I compiled a (very) sligthly
modified version of the latest beta-release.
The Version should be absolutely host-indipendent, but looks for its
configuration files in only very few places (/etc and environment).
I sugest this version only to people with some UNIX/Usenet/Mail knownledge.
The quad-fat binary + all the original docu is in
ftp://nice.ethz.ch/users/daniel/tin-1.3beta.tar.gz
-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 12 Jun 1995 04:15:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3rgf0i$m1m@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
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comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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From: ITI BOSSUWE STEFAN <STEFAN.BOSSUWE@CEDELLUX.tmailuk.sprint.com>
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Subject: RE: NEXT IN LINE acquired, to continue publishing
Importance: High
Hi,
Maybe you've read the press release in the newsgroup
comp.sys.next.announcement about the NIL being acquired
and continuing publishing. Don't you think it's weird that
they're moving to the west coast ? Has possibly the company
that acquired NIL also their main offices at the west coast ?
Is this company maybe NeXT, that finally realizes that they
should have a certain market-strategy, because even the
best software in the world won't sell itself ? Or is it Sun, that
wants to preserve the future of OpenStep and also their
investment in NeXT ?
Fact is, that in the announcement, they are very vague
about the company that acquired NIL, is that on purpose ?
> (from another RE:on NeXT In Line of Steve Sarich)
> I can only speculate, but I'd wager that any magazine that
> will not give Steve Jobs editorial control will never get
> advertising from NeXT. Thus...no magazines, no advertising...
> no public awareness. The Steve Jobs Marketing and Sales
> Prevention Team "succeeds" again.
Is someone at NeXT or Sun listening or actually reading
these newsgroups, especially the people of marketing
(if this department should exist at NeXT) ???
Stefan Bossuwe
Object Oriented Software Engineer
Belgium-Luxembourg
<STEFAN.BOSSUWE@cedellux.tmailuk.sprint.com>
From: Christof Bircher <bircher@ioc.unibe.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 06:39:59 GMT
Organization: University of Berne
Message-ID: <3rgng0$k64@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I recently digged out the third party CD I got with the first release of
NS for Intel, dating spring 93. The disk contains some quite amazing
demos of a draw program, appsoft draw (strongly ressembling illustrator
3.0) and an image manipulation program named appsoft image. In my
opinion, they both have quite a lot to offer.
When I tried to get more information about appsoft, it seemd to me that
they have disappeared. The email seems to be defanct (info@appsoft.com)
and the company is not even mentioned on the stepwise server.
Does anyone know something about appsoft? Is it possible to get a licence
for their programs (I only need to buy the licenceing key, I have the
apps on the CD)?
Thanks in advance
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Mirrors for ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de???
Message-ID: <DA13D7.I03@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 21:51:07 GMT
Does anybody know if there is a North American mirror of ftp.uni-muenchen?
Pulling stuff in from it has been slower than death recently and I was
wondering if there was somewhere closer to home that I could get the stuff
from without clogging up net traffic any worse...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: roland@onevision.de
Subject: Re: wanted: email-address of the devloper of CRANARCH
Message-ID: <D9wpDL.o4@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <3r667f$kv5@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:58:32 GMT
Hello,
In article <3r667f$kv5@aragorn.unibe.ch> Christof Bircher
<bircher@ioc.unibe.ch> writes:
> I tried to contact tms gmbh in germany with the email address given on
> the stepwise web-server, but it seems the address isn't valid any more.
> Does anyone know somthing about tms GmbH? Do they have a new address or
> are they out of business?
>
> Greetings
>
> Chris
The company is now called OneVision. If you want to email us
write to info@onevison.de
If you want to write us the normal way:
OneVision GmbH
Florian-Seidl-Stra 11
D-93053 Regensburg
Germany
Bye,
Roland
--
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Email: roland@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
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From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Another Digital Webster word
Date: 12 Jun 1995 08:11:48 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rgss4$b66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3rd2u0$1fkq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
> Well... its been awhile since this thread was active, but here goes:
> Under 3.2, lookup
> 'esthetically'
> in Digital Webster and note the suggested correction...
> - Steve
Try the correct spelling, Steve:
aesthetically :-)
Dave
From: malloggi@intersoft.next.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXT PEOPLE NEEDED IN MADRID
Date: 7 Jun 1995 18:14:28 GMT
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Message-ID: <3r4qa4$p5c@dub-news-svc-1.compuserve.com>
References: <3quhlh$g8c$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
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To: malloggi@intersoft.next.it
Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Need people with experience in NextStep for Intel in Madrid for
>occassional projects. English/Spanish languages.
>
>Please answer with personal E-mail to:
>72332.3705@compuserve.com
>
>Or Tel: 34 1 6779774
>Fax: 34 1 6772649
>
>Jesus Izquierdo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Is there software for the HP Scanjet 3C
Message-ID: <DA28qG.3JA@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 12:44:40 GMT
Hello, World!
I am looking for a way to use a HP Scanjet 3c scanner under
NEXTSTEP 3.3/i486 or a way to get to that scanner through SoftPC 4.0 on that
system (fat chance...).
Does anybody know a way.
Thanks in advance,
--Gerben
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 14:54:51 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3rgng0$k64@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Christof Bircher <bircher@ioc.unibe.ch> writes
> I recently digged out the third party CD I got with the first release of
> NS for Intel, dating spring 93. The disk contains some quite amazing
> demos of a draw program, appsoft draw (strongly ressembling illustrator
> 3.0) and an image manipulation program named appsoft image. In my
> opinion, they both have quite a lot to offer.
>
> When I tried to get more information about appsoft, it seemd to me that
> they have disappeared. The email seems to be defanct (info@appsoft.com)
> and the company is not even mentioned on the stepwise server.
>
> Does anyone know something about appsoft? Is it possible to get a
> licence for their programs (I only need to buy the licenceing key, I
> have the apps on the CD)?
AppSoft is out of business, and I don't think either of those products
survived. They only seemed impressive on the surface anyway, from what I
could see and what I was told by PasteUp customers who tried to use them.
Survival of the fittest...
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Message-ID: <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 20:19:22 GMT
sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) wrote:
> Sorry I do not know the original posting, but I think that somebodies
> NewsGrazer.app crashed and s/he is searching for an alternative. I would
> suggest to use NewsGrazer and Alexandra together as frontend solution or
> tin as backend:
> 1) NewsGrazer, if you want to uudecode big binaries or have your articles
> sorted (crashes sometimes)
> 2) Alexandra, if you want a newsreader that does NOT crash (no
> fontselection, no sort)
You can do both in the new version (v0.8). The new version sometimes crashes if you try
to select a new font, but this will be fixed soon.
Greetings
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| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
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From: bp@cs.washington.edu (Brian Pinkerton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web server software for NeXT
Date: 12 Jun 1995 15:44:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rhndp$1su@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
References: <3rf0k6$5r8@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu>
I've found httpd_1.4.1 to be really fast. With 25 pre-forked processes, I
was getting speedups of over a factor of two (round-trip, measured at
client). However, there seems to be a bug in the 3.3 kernel that causes a
crash after a couple of hours of heavy load (> 8K requests/hr), so I have
switched to Apache (see http://www.apache.org/).
bri
In article <3rf0k6$5r8@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu
writes:
> I upgraded to httpd_1.4.1 last week and took a big performance hit.
> I tried reducing the number of servers, etc., but finally gave
> up an went back to httpd_1.3. Things are now back to normal.
>
> Anybody else have this problem? Fixes?
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep on HP? // FORTRAN // summary
Date: 12 Jun 1995 15:48:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3rhnl9$2sst@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3ra9fh$1j2@duck.inetnebr.com>
In article <3ra9fh$1j2@duck.inetnebr.com> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com
(Pohl Longsine) writes:
>> Kelley Wittmeyer (kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
>> : has anyone heard anything recently on the status of OpenStep
>> : on HP platforms?
>>
> As far as I know, there has never been an OpenStep/HPUX implementation
> that's been announced.
>
> You can, however, get NeXTstep for PA-RISC machines, and when
> version 4.0 comes out, it will be OpenStep compliant.
unfortunately, i would like to run NeXTSTEP (OpenStep) on top of
hpux so that we can have our fortran (f90) compiler back...
OpenStep compliancy within NeXTSTEP will not perform this little
miracle for us.
Thank you to everyone who responded to the original post. it would
seem that those of us who prefer NeXTSTEP, but need an f90 compiler,
are s.o.l.
kelley
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mirrors for ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de???
Date: 12 Jun 1995 17:06:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3rhs6j$g39@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <DA13D7.I03@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <DA13D7.I03@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
(Jerry Kuch) writes:
>>
>> Does anybody know if there is a North American mirror of ftp.uni-muenchen?
>> Pulling stuff in from it has been slower than death recently and I was
>> wondering if there was somewhere closer to home that I could get the stuff
>> from without clogging up net traffic any worse...
>>
>>
>> --
It is ftp.dn.net in pub/next
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From: oc@hukatronic.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PSION and others
Date: 12 Jun 1995 12:31:34 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9506121258.AA11955@ocs.hukatronic.cz>
Hi all,
Sorry I don't write for some time - my online account is inoperable
due to lightning strike :)
I'm afraid it will take a few weeks to repair all damaged equipment
:(((. Till that I can _receive_ email on earn.cvut.cz, but I am not
capable to reply. ASAP I'll send confirmation to all who wrote me.
--
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ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
(please do not reply to hukatronic.cz)
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: RE: NEXT IN LINE acquired, to continue publishing
Date: 12 Jun 1995 18:16:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3ri0a5$2r3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <0006927A.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS>
ITI BOSSUWE STEFAN <STEFAN.BOSSUWE@CEDELLUX.tmailuk.sprint.com> writes
> they're moving to the west coast ? Has possibly the company
> that acquired NIL also their main offices at the west coast ?
> Is this company maybe NeXT, that finally realizes that they
..
> best software in the world won't sell itself ? Or is it Sun, that
> wants to preserve the future of OpenStep and also their
> investment in NeXT ?
Don't leave out Lighthouse Design. Those guys and gals seem to be going
along full steam in the NeXT/OpenStep world. Maybe buying NIL was cheaper
than buying a full 2-page ad in the magazine :)
Technically, Omni is also on the west coast of the US, but buying NIL doesn't
sound like something that they would do.
--
Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
Using the Internet since 1984
http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~alvin
From: don@darth (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: NEXT IN LINE acquired, to continue publishing
Date: 12 Jun 1995 18:45:07 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3ri1vj$m2b@news.xmission.com>
References: <0006927A.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS>
ITI BOSSUWE STEFAN <STEFAN.BOSSUWE@CEDELLUX.tmailuk.sprint.com>
wrote:
>Don't you think it's weird that
>they're moving to the west coast ? Has possibly the company
>that acquired NIL also their main offices at the west coast ?
That's why. Technically, though, not the coast. But
certainly west of Utah... :-) So there's nothing strange
about it, frankly.
>Is this company maybe NeXT, that finally realizes that they
>should have a certain market-strategy, because even the
>best software in the world won't sell itself ?
No.
>Or is it Sun, that
>wants to preserve the future of OpenStep and also their
>investment in NeXT ?
No.
>Fact is, that in the announcement, they are very vague
>about the company that acquired NIL, is that on purpose ?
I don't know if it is on purpose or not, so I won't
say who the company is (though I definitely know who).
NIL is in good hands, though. The individual who bought
NIL was with the NIL staff at our last meal together at
Chevy's before departing expo last year...he's a great
guy and I expect to see positive results from the change.
>Is someone at NeXT or Sun listening or actually reading
>these newsgroups, especially the people of marketing
>(if this department should exist at NeXT) ???
If they are listening to the net, they don't much care
what we have to say. We are not their market focus...
---
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
yackd@xmission.com
NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
From: sanguish@digifix (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 19:24:54 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de>
tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) wrote:
> sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) wrote:
> > Sorry I do not know the original posting, but I think that somebodies
> > NewsGrazer.app crashed and s/he is searching for an alternative. I would
> > suggest to use NewsGrazer and Alexandra together as frontend solution or
> > tin as backend:
> > 1) NewsGrazer, if you want to uudecode big binaries or have your articles
> > sorted (crashes sometimes)
> > 2) Alexandra, if you want a newsreader that does NOT crash (no
> > fontselection, no sort)
> You can do both in the new version (v0.8). The new version sometimes crashes if you
try
> to select a new font, but this will be fixed soon.
I've been a long time NewsGrazer user, and the last time I used Alexandra (0.7?) It
didn't feel right.
Well, 0.8 is a whole different story.
Its quite useable and, although there are some UI things that I'd like to tweek (and
can because it comes with source), I'm convinced that it is a better alternative for those
who are not attached to NewsGrazer already.
Constantin and Erik have done a great job.
--
- Scott Anguish -
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next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Message-ID: <DA2GpG.JCF@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <D9Cx7t.6H5@cuug.ab.ca> <1995Jun6.125807.1250@ittpub> <D9tI62.IxF@waldo.com> <140239@cup.portal.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:36:51 GMT
In article <140239@cup.portal.com>, <Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com> wrote:
>
>Just brainstorming here: Maybe you're going about this from the wrong angle.
>Instead of trying to write an Amiga file-system module for the Next, you
>should try for a NeXT file-system module for the Amiga. We already know
>that it's possible for Amigas to read/write DOS disks, and we know that PC
>machines can read/write NeXT disks. Therefore it seems likely that an Amiga
>with the appropriate driver could read/write NeXT disks.
>
There's a 4.3 filesystem for Amigas, although I haven't tried it. There's
half of the battle.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Geneva font
Message-ID: <DA2H5v.7E1@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3rfi67$6js@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:46:43 GMT
In article <3rfi67$6js@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>,
Trent Lange <lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
>Is there a way to get the Geneva font used on the Mac, or one that looks like
>it, for the NeXT? I couldn't find it on the fonts directory of
>ftp.cs.orst.edu. Thanks in advance for any information or pointers.
I think that the font is probably copyrighted by Apple and not distributable
for non-friends-of-Apple, although a knockoff of it might exist somewhere.
Now for the real question... why would you WANT that font? That the Mac has
maintained such a butt ugly font for so long as one of its defaults is
baffling to me...
--
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IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Another Digital Webster word
Date: 12 Jun 1995 21:33:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Message-ID: <3ribs1$cks@uwm.edu>
References: <3rd2u0$1fkq@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <3rgss4$b66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In comp.sys.next.misc (<3rgss4$b66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>),David A. Coyle (dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de) wrote:
| perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
| > Well... its been awhile since this thread was active, but here goes:
| > Under 3.2, lookup
| > 'esthetically'
| > in Digital Webster and note the suggested correction...
| > - Steve
| Try the correct spelling, Steve:
| aesthetically :-)
Esthetically and aesthetically are both correct usage; esthetics is
used quite a bit in a few philosophy texts I have. Going back to an
ae regreekification is more recent, but the old form should at least
be considered archaic.
Just my 2 mills. :)
Greg
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From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pine or Elm
Date: 12 Jun 1995 22:18:25 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3riefh$1572@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Well... I'd like to hear some opinions on Pine vs Elm. I like to use
NeXTMail, but I find that now I must sometimes dial in to read mail. So I
have set the NeXTMail 'get mail' option to Manual. I want to now be able
to log in remotely, read my mail, and when done, leave the messages in the
spool folder so that when I come in I can manually import them into
NeXTMail.
I've used Elm in the past but have heard many nice things about pine.
Comments and opinions regarding which would better suit my need are
greatly appreciated!
TIA,
Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Date: 13 Jun 1995 00:59:10 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
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From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 02:12:15 GMT
Organization: Internet Exchange Carrier
Message-ID: <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch>
daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
> There are 4 NeXTSTEP Newsreader which I'm aware of:
> -daniel
> --
> Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
> E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
Don't forget Alexandria 0.8, a NewsGrazer like reader which doesn't
bomb all the time. There was recently a posting on ..anounce from the authors.
I like it very much. The icons are cool too.
--Paul
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Pine or Elm
Date: 13 Jun 1995 05:30:46 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <3rj7q6$iqs@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3riefh$1572@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
> Well... I'd like to hear some opinions on Pine vs Elm. I like to use
> NeXTMail, but I find that now I must sometimes dial in to read mail. So I
> have set the NeXTMail 'get mail' option to Manual. I want to now be able
> to log in remotely, read my mail, and when done, leave the messages in the
> spool folder so that when I come in I can manually import them into
> NeXTMail.
Can't you use PPP? I heard it's really great.. :-)
> I've used Elm in the past but have heard many nice things about pine.
> Comments and opinions regarding which would better suit my need are
> greatly appreciated!
I suggest Pine. It has the possibility to perform key sequences, sort of like macros,
and also handles multiple mail folders much more comfortably. Other goodies include
the built-in pico editor, desaster recovery, postponed composition of mails and much
more.
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette ___ "X was designed to run three programs:
hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de /\__\ xterm, xload, and xclock."
[NeXTmail: YES]; \/__/ - The UNIX Haters Handbook
Date: 12 Jun 1995 20:27:55 GMT
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Stealth PCI-help
Date: 13 Jun 1995 06:41:16 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rjbuc$igk@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I just upgraded to an ASUS Triton P90 (the P55 model with the PS/2
connector). I have aa Diamond Stealth PCI 2meg vram (S3-968 based). I'm
using the latest 3.31 driver from NA. But while the board is recognized in
the config app it defaults to VGA. The Auto Detect # is 0x88f05333. I had it
working in the store in colour, but once back home it simply wouldn't
function (under identical conditions even). The PS/2 mouse connector does
not seem to work either. Any help would be much appreciated. Also, does
anyone know how serious the consequences of putting in parity 16meg SIMM's
in this board? It warns against it but it appears to work.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: yackd@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RE: NEXT IN LINE acquired, to continue publishing
Date: 13 Jun 1995 07:20:45 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3rje8d$609@news.xmission.com>
References: <0006927A.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS> <3ri0a5$2r3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee) wrote:
> Don't leave out Lighthouse Design. Those guys and gals seem
> to be going >along full steam in the NeXT/OpenStep world.
> Maybe buying NIL was cheaper
> than buying a full 2-page ad in the magazine :)
Actually, not. The ad prices are cheap. Of course, I don't know
the details of NIL's sale, but I know enough to say that just
printing issue #4 would cost more than a two pager.
I also know that the buyer was *not* Lighthouse, NeXT, Sun, or any
other "big guy".
---
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
yackd@xmission.com
NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Anyone know Ross Perot's e-mail adress?
Message-ID: <jpanicoDA3xHz.29x@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:37:11 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom8.netcom.com
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: meyergru@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Archives for comp.sys.next.*?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Jun 1995 12:12:07 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rjvan$k4l@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Originator: meyergru@hpradigf.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Hi there,
does anyone know where the next newsgroups have been archived?
I am specifically looking for the 1992 comp.sys.next.* articles,
which seem to be missing.
cheers, Uwe
Uwe Meyer-Gruhl "And if I die today I'll be the happy phantom
Lehrstuhl Informatik IX and I'll go chasing nuns out in the yard" (TA)
Technische Universitaet Muenchen email:MeyerGru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen tel: ++49 89 48095-209
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates)
Subject: Help! Poor performance on Sparc floppy drive
Message-ID: <lorgbDA495F.4L0@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 14:48:51 GMT
Sender: lorgb@netcom6.netcom.com
It took 45 minutes to delete 1.2 meg file from the floppy.
I guess you got the picture.
Here is my configuration:
SPARCstation 20, 160M RAM, 1 Gig Hard Drive
Nextstep 3.3
I will appreciate if anyone give me a hint/patch to speed up
the floppy drive.
Thanks.
From: David Grindrod <grindrod>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Pine or Elm
Date: 13 Jun 1995 15:00:07 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rk95n$sqq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3riefh$1572@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have been using elm on my network here for three years and there has never
been a complaint as yet. It is fully functional and if you install the MIME
stuff correctly can handle multimedia mail aswell. I did have pine installed on
the cluster for a little while but removed it in the end because everyone used
elm.
Dave
---------------------------------------------------------------
David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg.
Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: auy@wam.umd.edu (Karch Kiraly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: testing
Date: 13 Jun 1995 18:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3rklim$o99@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Summary: This is a test message disregard!
This is a test message!
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WANTED: NSFIP3.3 Boot selector pgm
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Jun 1995 18:35:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3rklq7$okd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: NSFIP3.3, Boot
Hi, I am making this posting for a friend of mine, so please direct
all replies to 75034.1444@compuserve.com. I am looking for a program
or device which will allow him to select which hard drive he wants to
boot off of. The configuration of his computer is as follows:
Gateway 2000 P590 Tower w/ 16MB of RAM, 2 IDE Hard Drives one is 540MB
and the other is 725MB, ATI Ultra Pro Mach32 (PCI) Video card, and a
Soundblaster compatible (ISA) sound card, and a CD-ROM drive.
Also, when he tries to add "ISA Bus Support" he gets conflicts. Is
there any way around this. He needs PCI support for the Video card,
but ISA support for the sound card. Also we are having some trouble
getting the CD-ROM card working. Is there anyone who has a similar (or
pehaps identical) configuration who can give us some pointers on how
to correct some of these problems?? Even if you don't have a similar
config then please send any ideas you might have.
Thanks,
--
Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu
Stop Senate Bill 314!! It threatens the very fabric of the INTERNETs
existence. Please see http://www.phantom.com/~slowdog for details.
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIFF to GIF conversion software?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:42:39 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rkpnf$rns@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com>
Is there software that runs on NEXTSTEP that will do _bulk_ converion
of TIFF files to GIF (or JPEG, BMP, or any format that has exactly
one standard)? NeXT apparently has some of it's own extensions to
the TIFF format that keep my Windoze apps from reading some TIFFs
that originated on NS.
I know TIFFany saves to JPEG, but I have a lot of tiffs to convert.
And please don't flame me about Windoze, it's not a matter of choice
in this case. :-)
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael Pizolato, CTO
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIFF to GIF conversion software?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 20:14:36 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rkrjc$rqd@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com>
Is there software that runs on NEXTSTEP that will do _bulk_ converion
of TIFF files to GIF (or JPEG, BMP, or any format that has exactly
one standard)? NeXT apparently has some of it's own extensions to
the TIFF format that keep my Windoze apps from reading some TIFFs
that originated on NS.
I know TIFFany saves to JPEG, but I have a lot of tiffs to convert.
And please don't flame me about Windoze, it's not a matter of choice
in this case. :-)
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael Pizolato, CTO
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
From: bajwa@gov.yk.ca (Bob Bajwa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mirrors for ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de???
Date: 12 Jun 1995 07:28:38 GMT
Organization: YukonNet Operating Society
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rgqb6$b2l@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
References: <DA13D7.I03@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
When you login to ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, it display a list of
mirror sites:
230- --------------------------------------------------------------
230- The following FTP sites maintain a mirror of our NeXT archive:
230- ftp.mb3.tu-chemnitz.de /pub/NeXT
230- ftp.tu-chemnitz.de /pub/NeXT
230- ftp.uni-hamburg.de /pub/next
230- ftp.uni-siegen.de /pub/NeXT
230- ftp.eunet.ch /pub/next
230- ftp.fdn.fr/ftp.fdn.org /pub/NeXTSTEP
230- ftp.dn.net /pub/next
230- --------------------------------------------------------------
The last site, ftp.dn.net, is in the U.S.
-bob B.
STEPUP Technologies
In article <DA13D7.I03@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch) writes:
>
> Does anybody know if there is a North American mirror of
ftp.uni-muenchen?
> Pulling stuff in from it has been slower than death recently and I was
> wondering if there was somewhere closer to home that I could get the
stuff
> from without clogging up net traffic any worse...
>
>
> --
> Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
> IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU
KESSEN
> brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
> week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: bajwa@gov.yk.ca (Bob Bajwa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 07:41:26 GMT
Organization: YukonNet Operating Society
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rgr36$b6i@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
References: <3rgng0$k64@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In article <3rgng0$k64@aragorn.unibe.ch> Christof Bircher
<bircher@ioc.unibe.ch> writes:
> I recently digged out the third party CD I got with the first release of
> NS for Intel, dating spring 93. The disk contains some quite amazing
> demos of a draw program, appsoft draw (strongly ressembling illustrator
> 3.0) and an image manipulation program named appsoft image. In my
> opinion, they both have quite a lot to offer.
AppSoft is not around anymore.
However, these days you have quite a selction of software to choose from
in the graphics area. For example, instead fo Appsoft Draw, try Virtuoso
now from Macromind or Create from Stone Design or SuperDraw from Impact
Software Publishing.
And for image processing try Tiffany II from benchmark Developement, PiXel
(shareware/public), WetPaint from Lighthouse Design.
You might want to go StepWise WWW site,
http://www.stepwise.com/Products/Graphics.html , to get more info.
-bob B.
STEPUP Technologies
>
> When I tried to get more information about appsoft, it seemd to me that
> they have disappeared. The email seems to be defanct (info@appsoft.com)
> and the company is not even mentioned on the stepwise server.
>
> Does anyone know something about appsoft? Is it possible to get a
licence
> for their programs (I only need to buy the licenceing key, I have the
> apps on the CD)?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Chris
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Wanted -- tool to load NS Intel from DOS (like "loadlin" from Linux)
Date: 13 Jun 1995 20:39:15 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3rkt1j$10lh@digdug.pencom.com>
I've got a system that includes DOS/Windows, Linux, and NEXTSTEP (3.2). I'd
like to be able to control the boot process through my DOS config.sys file
(don't ask why -- it just _is_)...
Right now, using the "Menu" capability of DOS 6.x, I can select either
Windows or Linux to boot. (Linux has a utility program available called
"loadlin.exe" that runs from DOS and boots a linux system.) What I'd like is
a similar utility for NEXTSTEP. Specifically, a DOS executable that starts
up the NEXTSTEP partition "bootmanager" (I really don't want it to actually
"boot" all the way up to NEXTSTEP -- just get me to the bootmanager -- so I
can perform "-s" or "config=Default" etc. type boot options...
Anybody have such a tool? Anybody working on one? Please?
--
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*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy
Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: marks@netins.net (Mark Strand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep academic pricing?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 04:35:09 GMT
Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, IA, USA
Message-ID: <3rlott$ng0@insosf1.netins.net>
References: <3r4lum$5cc@linus.oit.umass.edu> <3raf1d$ka4@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
In article <3raf1d$ka4@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu
says...
>
>Matt Kimmel (kimmel@nic.umass.edu) wrote:
>: Does anyone know what the current academic pricing is on NeXTstep 3.3
>: Base and Developer for Intel?
>
>The academic bundle for 3.3 includes both User and Developer. Our campus
>computer store quoted me $270 today for it.
>
Or course the Academic Bundle includes User and Developer; that hasn't
changed since 3.1 (Intel-wise). But make sure you're getting 3.3 User and
3.3 Developer. I talked to the resellers a few weeks ago and they were
selling the Academic Bundle with 3.3 User and 3.2 Developer. So beware.
>--
>Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
>Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
>Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
>University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: huhr@uni-paderborn.de (Holger Uhr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: LaTex2e & NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 14 Jun 1995 09:18:28 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3rm9h4$b7@news.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <3qvepp$7r4$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Peter Schoen (100103.133@CompuServe.COM) wrote:
> I have recently installed LaTex2e on my NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel)
> system.
> While running the ltxcheck.tex file, which checks the
> installation, the program reports one (good luck it's only one)
> error:
> "Checking the input path:
> article.cls appears to be in the current directory.
> If this is the case...
> If article.cls is not in the current directory, then you need
> to edit texsys.cfg. If nothing works, add:
> /let/@currdir/@empty "
> Well, article.cls is NOT in the current directory and adding
> "/let/@currdir/@empty" to the texsys.cfg file did not help to
> solve the problem.
1. NeXT-TeX is different :-) If it doesn't find a file in the current
directory, it looks for it in the directories listed in the TEXINPUTS
environment variable. So you can ignore the error message; as far as I know,
this behavior doesn't cause any problems. You should not add
"/let/@currdir/@empty" to texsys.cfg. (NeXT-TeX is also different from
standard TeX implementations that run under UNIX in that it doesn't have
subdirectory-path-search, so you have to add every single subdirectory to
TEXINPUTS.)
> In fact, it seems that texsys.cfg doesn't even get processed.
> Maybe I have put texsys.cfg in the wrong directory, currently
> it is in /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs. If that's wrong, please
> tell me the correct directory.
2. If you really want a .cfg file to be processed, you have to add it to the
directory where you build the format file BEFORE you build the format file.
Greetings
Holger
--
| Holger Uhr *** Pohlweg 60 *** 33098 Paderborn *** Germany |
| E-Mail: huhr@uni-paderborn.de Phone: 05251-640612 |
|How to become immortal: Read this signature tomorrow and follow its advice.|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: Jerry Carson <jcarson@mcgh.org>
Message-ID: <9506141556.AA09628@mcgh.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:56:07 -0400
Subject: Scheduling Software needed
Cc: jcarson@mcgh.org
An dcotor's office I'm consulting for has need of a scheduling
system. It would need to track appointments, reasons for the
appointments, and if the patient showed or not. If you have, or know
of, such a system please contact me at:
jcarson@mcgh.org or
jcarson@ic.net
Jerry Carson
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: displaying .avi-video-files on Next
Date: 14 Jun 1995 09:54:18 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3rmbka$3na@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hello,
we want to display a video-file in .avi-format. Is there any application
that is able to do so? We tested Scene.app, but Scene does not understand
avi-format. Any helpful hint to an Intel- or Motorola-application, that
can display .avi-files is welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz)
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Wanted -- tool to load NS Intel from DOS (like "loadlin" from Linux)
In-Reply-To: robin@pencom.com's message of 13 Jun 1995 20:39:15 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun14002021@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rkt1j$10lh@digdug.pencom.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 04:20:21 GMT
Robin,
You're in luck because in /usr/Dos, there is a DOS program called
"gonext.com"
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: mounting Linux/NeXT partitions in Linux/NeXT
Date: 14 Jun 1995 20:28:17 GMT
Organization: Grand Valley State University, CSIS Dept.
Message-ID: <3rngp1$8lh@news.it.gvsu.edu>
I have Linux, NeXTStep and DOS on my machine. I can mount
the DOS partition in Linux and NeXT. But it would be more
useful if I could mount the Linux partition in NeXT, and
the NeXT partition in Linux.
Is this possible?
What filesystem does the Next partition use? Is there an ext2fs
filesystem for NeXT?
--
Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME>
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: me@wintermute (David Wallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 4...When?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 16:40:35 GMT
Message-ID: <3rn3e3$n81@news.kth.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Has NeXT told us when they plan to release NeXTSTEP 4 ?
Also, what's going to be added/improved/changed in NS4.
I wanted to upgrade my system from VL-BUS to PCI but currently I'm running 3.2 and
I don't think NS supported PCI before 3.3 am I right?
While I'm at it how about drivers, will current drivers work under 4.0 ?
--david
--
--
"most people are fools, most authority is malignant,
God does not exist, and everything is wrong." - Ted Nelson's four maxims.
Name : David Wallin
e-Mail : d94dwa@student.csd.uu.se
From: suther@adajames.csfac.uwlax.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: framegrabber for HP
Date: 14 Jun 95 13:27:02
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <suther.95Jun1413272@adajames>
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Could anyone recommend a framegrabber and image acquisition software
which will run under NeXTSTEP on an HP715/80?
Thanks much.
- Karen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Adaptec 2840 vs. 1542?
Message-ID: <jpanicoDA6DtI.64v@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:24:54 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com
Hi,
I currently have an Adaptec 1542 (actually a 1740 running in 1542 mode)
in my Intel box and I find it to be pretty pokey. Does anyone know
firsthand if the 2840 (VL Bus) is significantly faster than the 1540;
a big enough improvement to justify spending $300 on the new card?
Any opinions welcomed.
Thanks.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 19:08:52 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>
References: <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> AppSoft is out of business, and I don't think either of those products
> survived. They only seemed impressive on the surface anyway, from what I
> could see and what I was told by PasteUp customers who tried to use them.
> Survival of the fittest...
I used to do some support for a small technical illustration house in
Pasadena, CA, that is still using TopDraw on Cubes. Why? It has tools no
other drawing package they've ever seen has.
If anyone is considering writing (or already sells) a drawing package, get in
touch with me and I'll put you in toch with them. They'd LOVE to move to
faster hardware but can't, since TopDraw only runs on Black.
They'd make a *killer* reference account - they're very high-profile in the
technical illustration (mostly aerospace) industry.
- Mark
--
Mark Dadgar | "If English was good enough for Jesus
Network/Systems Admin. | Christ, then it's good enough for me."
NeXT Computer, Inc. | - Arkansas congressman to Joint
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM | National Committee on Language
Here I am, NOT speaking for NeXT.
Subject: S3 Trio Driver?
Message-ID: <v3g3cMDE0aaz6@da20.darkness.gun.de>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:14:52 CET
Organization: just me....
From: jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de (Joerg von Frantzius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
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Hi all,
recently I have heard that NeXT is doing their own driver for graphic
boards based on the S3 Trio chip. Is this still the case and if so,
when will one be able to lay one's hands on it :-) ?
Unfortunately I just discovered that in fact there does NOT exist a
driver for NextStep for the Elsa 1000 Trio board, which I have
bought. Now I am stuck with the generic S3 driver, which NextAnswers
titles as a last resort...
Thanks for any answers.
_____________________________________________________________________
Joerg von Frantzius jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de
Subject: changing default application?
Message-ID: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:22:08 CET
Organization: just me....
From: jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de (Joerg von Frantzius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
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When I had installed the omni filter package for different graphic
formats, after a while files ending with .jpeg have started to appear
with an icon different from the usual text icon in the workspace.
Using the shell I tracked down a file in a .Next-something directory
where filename suffixes are related to applications and some other
stuff.
Now I'd like to know: when and how is this file automatically changed?
Is the syntax documented somewhere so that now I can associate Preview
with .gif files (which it can handle if I load one manually from
Preview)?
Thanks in advance...
_____________________________________________________________________
Joerg von Frantzius jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de
From: <guest9>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web server software for NeXT
Date: 14 Jun 1995 20:06:13 GMT
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center
Message-ID: <3rnffl$jmp@post.tau.ac.il>
References: <1255382.ensmtp@csgi.com>
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gn compiled and ran right out of the box. I chose it because originally
I just wanted a gopher server, but its nice for webbers too. Can't recall
where I got it from, but it was easy to find.
--
*******************************************************************
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Eitan Berglas School of Economics Fax: 03-640-9908
Tel Aviv University Voice: 03-640-9202
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Message-ID: <DA6JBw.5zn@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:23:56 GMT
In article <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>,
Mark Dadgar <Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>In article <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
>Anderson) writes:
>> AppSoft is out of business, and I don't think either of those products
>> survived. They only seemed impressive on the surface anyway, from what I
>> could see and what I was told by PasteUp customers who tried to use them.
>> Survival of the fittest...
>
>I used to do some support for a small technical illustration house in
>Pasadena, CA, that is still using TopDraw on Cubes. Why? It has tools no
>other drawing package they've ever seen has.
I would _love_ to see TopDraw revived, this is still my favorite NS
drawing app, a copy which ran on the new architectures would be great.
My understanding was that AppSoft bought TopDraw from Media Logic, and
then overhauled it into AppSoft Draw. Anyone know what happened to the
code for either program? It would be cool if the original TopDraw was
rereleased for NS.
It's too bad when decent programs end up in the bit bucket...
--
|: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :|
|: http://world.std.com/~lloyd :|
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tip--higher than 9600bps?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:32:16 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950614173015.13013A-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
is it possible to use tip at higher than 9600bps? i tried to put 14400,
but it gave me an error.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT and Newton?
Message-ID: <1995Jun14.163213.11970@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: geno@cuach13.uwyo.edu (Gene Zimmerman)
Date: 14 Jun 95 16:32:13 MDT
Distribution: world
Salutations!
I'm thinking those Newto
ns look pretty cool and am thinking of getting one. I also remember a while back pe
ople were on this newsgroup talking about creating a NeXT <-> Newton connection kit. Anything ever come of this?
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: thunder@dnai.com (Chett Salzman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: For Sale: Next OS for Intel 3.1 and 3.2
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:56:42 +1000
Organization: Computer Service Group
Message-ID: <thunder.39.009BB0D1@dnai.com>
Next for intel 3.1 and 3.2 on CD
Make offer.
thanks
From: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Full Text Database for NeXT (awk-Frontend??)
Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:59:36 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rr33o$pam@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
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Hello,
I've a typical newby-question about a particular piece of
NeXT Software. What i'm looking for is something like a
full text database, capable to manage larger amounts of
unstructured or only lightly structured texts. Data should be
organized in large files containing separated smaller units of
data (records) and these should be able to be structured by
fields. This apparently seems to be the general structure of
classical database applications, but the letter normally don't
support larger amounts of unstructured text to be the contents of
the fields. The simplest example of what should be possible with
this application is the management of excerpts and notes, each of which
being separated in fields of e.g. author, body of the excerpt, source,
descriptor field etc..Together with this capability of storing the
data, the programm should offer the common retrieval facilities,
that is, pattern matching with regular expressions. Perhaps a
frontend based on the powerful programs of awk, sed or perl would
do the task. In fact the only thing that retains me from simply
using the awk program is the lack of visualization of the texts
being worked on. It would be much nicer to have the retrieval tool
and the possibility of entering, displaying and editing your records
all together in one program. Does anyone know if this presumptous
description matches any existing application ?
Thanks for your answers.
Gerald
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: tip--higher than 9600bps?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 02:21:28 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3ro5f8$lb2@news.tamu.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950614173015.13013A-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950614173015.13013A-100000@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>,
Someone@Somewhere <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu> wrote:
>is it possible to use tip at higher than 9600bps? i tried to put 14400,
>but it gave me an error.
Use 19200 or 38400
Lusty
--
So fine she was,
so soft, so silky-coated-
Her very mew had quality!
-Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: lorgb@netcom.com (LOR/Geske Bock Associates)
Subject: Help! Poor performance on Sparc floppy drive
Message-ID: <lorgbDA6zqy.H16@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:18:34 GMT
Sender: lorgb@netcom20.netcom.com
It took 45 minutes to delete 1.2 meg file from the floppy.
I guess you got the picture.
Here is my configuration:
SPARCstation 20, 160M RAM, 1 Gig Hard Drive
Nextstep 3.3
I will appreciate if anyone give me a hint/patch to speed up
the floppy drive.
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Looking for recursive ftp client under NS3.2
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <DA7116.o4p@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:46:18 GMT
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
I need to mirror an ftp site, and am looking for a good piece of software to
do this. Basically, I need something that I can say to, "go copy this" and
it will, and I don't have to do much.
If you know of an ftp client that will recursively get (and make on the
client's side) directories and the files in them, please tell me.
I know that the new ncftp (version 2.+) will do this, but I can't get it to
compile. Before I hack on it to get it to compile too much more, I was
wondering if anyone out there had it.
Alternately, if anyone can get ncurses compiled (I tried the 1.8.0 version,
and that didn't seem to work) on NS 3.2, that'd probably do it for me.
Basically, I need some help. Do you have any? :-)
--
Chadwick A. Dubuque cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key
postal:USA/58105-5164/ND/Fargo/IACC 258 NDSU Box 5164/Chad Dubuque
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE acquired, to continue publishing
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 10:39:06 -0700
Organization: Trilithon Software
Message-ID: <henry-1406951039060001@trilithon.com>
References: <0006927A.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS>
In article
<0006927A.MAI*/G=STEFAN/S=BOSSUWE/PRMD=CEDELLUX/ADMD=TMAILUK/C=GB/@MHS>,
ITI BOSSUWE STEFAN <STEFAN.BOSSUWE@CEDELLUX.tmailuk.sprint.com> wrote:
* Hi,
*
* Maybe you've read the press release in the newsgroup
* comp.sys.next.announcement about the NIL being acquired
* and continuing publishing. Don't you think it's weird that
* they're moving to the west coast ? Has possibly the company
* that acquired NIL also their main offices at the west coast ?
* Is this company maybe NeXT, that finally realizes that they
* should have a certain market-strategy, because even the
* best software in the world won't sell itself ? Or is it Sun, that
* wants to preserve the future of OpenStep and also their
* investment in NeXT ?
It doesn't have to be Next to be on the West Coast. GS Corp are
in San Rafael. Spherical are in Mill Valley. Lighthouse
are in San Mateo. Trilithon are in Portola Valley [although I
assure you we're not taking over NIL].
*
* Is someone at NeXT or Sun listening or actually reading
* these newsgroups, especially the people of marketing
* (if this department should exist at NeXT) ???
Chances are nobody important from either Next or Sun are reading
the groups. Very Important People usually don't know how to
either use computers or surf the net. And even if they were,
there's usually nothing of content in these groups worth noting.
........ Henry
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! Poor performance on Sparc floppy drive
Date: 14 Jun 95 18:14:42
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jun14181442@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <lorgbD9xnzu.8IL@netcom.com> <henry-1106951448030001@trilithon.com>
In-reply-to: henry@trilithon.com's message of Sun, 11 Jun 1995 14:48:03 -0700
Many people suggested: use 'mtools'.
zhao
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ***** SCANNER Info???
Date: 15 Jun 1995 12:16:32 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Message-ID: <3rp8b0$mn5@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Keywords: scanners
An old HSD scanner is giving me some SCSI errors so I thought I'd ask the
following questions?
1. Has anybody inherited HSD hardaware, software and support line since
they went out of business (if this is the real reason their telephone
number responds as disconnected) ?
2. Are there any scanner drivers or Apps that are supporting the HP line
of scanners?
3. What are the scanners and software available for NeXTSTEP and/or
OpenStep?
I would appreciate any answer imensely!
--jm
------------------------------------------------------------------------
|Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 |
| Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 |
| Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil |
From: mcconnel@hydra.syr.edu (Terry R. McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: CRC error -- why?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 13:33:07 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Message-ID: <3rpcqk$o9o@newstand.syr.edu>
I keep getting the following error message when I try to boot my black NeXT
from a floppy:
fd0: Sector 56663(d) Cmd = Read; Data CRC Error: RETRY
I assume CRC stands for "Cyclic Redundancy Check."
This happens at the point in the boot process where the kernel tries to
find and run mach_init.
I have formatted the floppy and made it "bootable" using
disk -i -h barnyard.syr.edu -l "BootFloppy" /dev/rfd0a
mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
chmod 1777 /mnt
cp -p /odmach /mnt
I then made hard links fdmach -> odmach, sdmach -> odmach, and mach -> odmach
and symbolic link $BOOTFILE -> odmach in /mnt.
I then made /usr, /usr/etc and /etc -> /usr/etc in /mnt.
Then I copied the libsys to the appropriate place, and stripped both
libsys and odmach.
If this is all I do, then the kernel loads and panics when it can't find
mach_init or init. If I then copy mach_init and init to /mnt/usr/etc I get
the above error message and the kernel hangs.
I have tried this with several 2.88 meg floppies. The kernel is the one
distributed with NS 3.2.
I got into this after trying to get BootFloppy3.2 to make a bootable floppy.
The result was a floppy that gives the above error message. I then looked
at the BootFloppy3.2 code and tried to strip it down to its bare essentials
which lead me to the do the above commands. BootFloppy3.2 is basically
a script for the original Builddisk shell script distributed with NS 2.0,
which has been hacked by several people over the years. It is available
at ftp.cs.orst.edu.
(BTW, this isn't an urgent problem -- In an emergency I can always boot
my NeXT over the network. This is just one of those "Just because it's
there" -type projects.)
--
************************************************************************
Terry McConnell Mathematics/215 Carnegie/Syracuse, N.Y. 13244-1150
mcconnel@mailbox.syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/terry.html
************************************************************************
From: Simon Chih-L Han <idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: (no subject)
Date: 15 Jun 1995 13:31:41 GMT
Organization: Cardiovascular Division, NDMC
Message-ID: <3rpcnt$qi@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
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Dear NeXT Expert,
I have successfully installed satan and got it to work on a text-based
lynx interface. However I tried hard, I can't get satan to work
properly. I get " hypertext file not available at this time" on choosing
some items on the satan control panel.
What should I do to solve this problem?
Thank you for your assistance in advance.
Simon Chih-Lu Han MB 8 Sec 3 Ting-chow Rd Taipei Taiwan ROC
Consultant Cardiologist Cardiovascular Division
Tri-Service General Hospital
National Defense Medical Center
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw/ChihluH@aol.com
_-_-_-_-_what wll be the future????????????????????????????
the future is now-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for French Language Training Software
Date: 15 Jun 1995 14:24:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3rpfqd$rh2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I am wondering if there is any French language training software available
for NeXTStep, hopefully with audio I/O.
Jim Beauchamp
j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Diamond Stealth (solution) and other ASUS questions
Date: 15 Jun 1995 06:21:35 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rojhf$plr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I'd like to thank all the people who wrote to me with suggestions regarding
the Diamond Stealth Card. This may be of interest.
I upgraded a noname DX4/100 to an ASUS p55TP4 (Triton) board with a P90 and
a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI video card with 2megs of VRAM. I used the new
version of the Diamond Stealth driver (3.31-NA#1939).
Problem1: The ASUS PS/2 mouse connector simply will not work. I must have
tried 10 mice and 4 cables from the ASUS distributor. Does this thing work?
It freezes up the keyboard as well which forced me to reboot into
config=Default mode.
Problem2: The display kept coming up in monochrome VGA, no matter which
memory map address I tried. The solution was so silly that I still can't
believe it. In booting up in config=Default mode the Instance0.table file
got changed!!! The 3 letters VGA were placed before the DiamondStealth and
so the Diamond card wasn't able to allocate memory to the VGA space and the
screen defaulted to VGA. Removing that (after hours of overlooking it) by
hand fixed the problem. I did not require any change in the memory map
address nor the autodetect identity. It works great.
Remaining Issue: Dealing with the PS/2 mouse issue. Has anyone gotten this
to work?
Finally, does NEXTSTEP support nonparity RAM? At the moment I am using
parity RAM but this motherboard claims( in the manual) to want to see fewer
chips/SIMM. The simplest way would be to downgrade to nonparity simm's.
Anyway, thank's for all the help. Any further info on the 2 remaining issues
would be appreciated. By the way, NXBench2.0 went to 2.13 from 1.06 using
the DX/4-100 and an ATI GUP with 2megs VRAM. Solitaire finally works. Now
just that mouse...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: chuck@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mounting Linux/NeXT partitions in Linux/NeXT
Date: 15 Jun 1995 15:07:42 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rpibu$h7m@www.its.com>
References: <3rngp1$8lh@news.it.gvsu.edu>
In article <3rngp1$8lh@news.it.gvsu.edu>, Bill Bereza wrote:
> I have Linux, NeXTStep and DOS on my machine. I can mount
> the DOS partition in Linux and NeXT. But it would be more
> useful if I could mount the Linux partition in NeXT, and
> the NeXT partition in Linux.
>
> Is this possible?
Sure, it's "possible", in the strict sense that one could write a a Linux.fs in /usr/filesystems
under NEXTSTEP and whatever the comparible equivalent is under Linux.
I don't believe that you can simply mount one filesystem from the other OS, although it
would be great if it were that easy. If you wish to experiment, try doing the mount
*read-only*, or else you may hose the partition you're trying to mount.
> What filesystem does the Next partition use? Is there an ext2fs
> filesystem for NeXT?
NEXTSTEP uses a Berkeley 4.3 Fast File System, which is defined in "man fs". You may
also find the header files under /usr/include/bsd/ufs interesting.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jimrob@sybase.com (James Robertson)
Subject: Tseng driver, 8-bit
Message-ID: <DA7wEI.53p@sybase.com>
Keywords: Tseng, NEC Image, driver
Sender: usenet@sybase.com
Organization: Sybase, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:03:51 GMT
Does anyone know if there is an 8-bit color driver for the Tseng Labs graphics chip
on the NEC Image 466es? (I'm currently running with 2-bit gray. I don't have enough
vram for 16-bit.)
Thanks.
- Jim Robertson
From: hanley@popeye (Mark Hanley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anybody using ISDN?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 18:59:10 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Martin M & S, Sunnyvale, CA
Message-ID: <3rpvtu$2pa@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
What does it take ( hardware/software ) to connect to ISDN? I'm running
NS3.3 on black hardware. I've browsed the net looking for ISDN info,
but found next to nothing concerning an ISDN/NeXT solution. The Motorola
BitSURFR hardware is priced attractively, but what else to I need
to connect to the net?
Thanks in advance
Mark
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Web server software for NeXT
Date: 16 Jun 1995 03:04:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rqsbv$357@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <3rf0k6$5r8@controversy.admin.lsa.umich.edu> <3rhndp$1su@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
Brian Pinkerton (bp@cs.washington.edu) wrote:
: I've found httpd_1.4.1 to be really fast. With 25 pre-forked processes, I
: was getting speedups of over a factor of two (round-trip, measured at
: client). However, there seems to be a bug in the 3.3 kernel that causes a
: crash after a couple of hours of heavy load (> 8K requests/hr), so I have
: switched to Apache (see http://www.apache.org/).
By the way, I've gotten wind of somebody writing a multi-threaded httpd
that takes its pages and images from a relational database through EOF.
Can anybody confirm or deny?
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
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U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS 4...When?
Date: 16 Jun 1995 03:14:42 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3rqsv2$357@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <3rn3e3$n81@news.kth.se>
David Wallin (me@wintermute) wrote:
: Has NeXT told us when they plan to release NeXTSTEP 4 ?
: Also, what's going to be added/improved/changed in NS4.
I've heard end-of-third-quarter for the release date. Version 4 will have
OpenStep compliancy. Some rumors say "thread-safe AppKit and SMP." I
won't believe it until I see it. You can guess that two or three more
devices for Intel will be supported. :) Better developer tools, better
C++ support. OpenStep compliancy is the big thing.
: I wanted to upgrade my system from VL-BUS to PCI but currently I'm running 3.2 and
: I don't think NS supported PCI before 3.3 am I right?
3.2 had PCI support, but people were complaining about a PCI driver bug
that caused slow performance. I'm not sure of the status of this problem.
My dad runs 3.3 on a PCI machine from Gateway, and he's thrilled.
: While I'm at it how about drivers, will current drivers work under 4.0 ?
You can count on all of the currently supported devices being supported in
the future. Hope none of the drivers break for this update. The serial
driver will still work as good as it does now. MUX will break again.
(Man, does that sound bitter?)
: "most people are fools, most authority is malignant,
: God does not exist, and everything is wrong." - Ted Nelson's four maxims.
True.
--
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mounting Linux/NeXT partitions in Linux/NeXT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 16 Jun 1995 12:26:38 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rrt9u$rg8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3rngp1$8lh@news.it.gvsu.edu> <3rpibu$h7m@www.its.com>
chuck@its.com wrote:
: I don't believe that you can simply mount one filesystem from the other
: OS, although it would be great if it were that easy. If you wish to
: experiment, try doing the mount *read-only*, or else you may hose the
: partition you're trying to mount.
From the Linux side, it's possible to mount NEXTSTEP filesystems, but
just read-only. You'll have to grab the ufs-0.3 patch by Bruno Haible
and compile it into your Linux kernel.
It's at least a way to remove duplicate info files for Emacs ;-)
Gregor
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From: pisul_cj@cowley.uwlax.edu (Charles Pisula S92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT has gone to the monkeys ??????
Date: 16 Jun 1995 13:51:59 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <3rs29v$j6n@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
This article was sent to me by a friend, I though some others out there
might be interested in the profound uses of NeXT and the Research Dollar......
The NeXT Computer: A Tool to Study Artificial Intelligence
----------------------------------------------------------
As more and more NeXT computers are introduced to campus, it has
become possible for artificially intelligent scientists at U-M to
extend the milestone research reported by Bennett at Yale University.
[1] Bennett's study used a computer simulation to test the notion that
if enough monkeys were allowed to pound at typewriters long enough,
all the great works of literature would result. This early research
suffered from two limitations. The first was a reliance upon random
number generation to choose characters on the typewriter. The second
was the ability to compare the output only with statistical properties
of the English language.
Current research at U-M attempts the ultimate experiment to test
Bennett's notion. Since November 1988, groups of primates have spent
their evenings and weekends in the various computer laboratories
across campus that house NeXT computers. A total of 24 monkeys are
currently serving as subjects in this research. The procedure is
straightforward. During each laboratory session, the monkeys are
anchored by seat belts in front of the NeXT keyboards. To encourage
typing, the keys are laced with honey to attract the monkeys'
attention. Each keystroke made is stored in sequence in the monkey's
personal text file. After every thirteenth keystroke, the monkey is
rewarded with a grape. After every two hundred keystrokes, the
positive reinforcement is increased to a banana, suggested by the work
of Feldman and Sprout.[2]
The U-M experiment improves upon the previous research in two ways.
First, the typed productions are not a gamble, a la Monte Carlo.
Instead, they are produced by actual, living monkeys. Second, and more
importantly, the typed productions are compared directly with the
actual works of Shakespeare, which are readily available for searching
in the NeXT computers' optical discs. The monkeys' text is divided
into packets of 13 characters, ignoring case, spaces, and punctuation.
The content of these packets provides the input for a search of the
Shakespeare file. All matches are then transferred to a new NeXT text
file for the monkey, which includes date, time, and Shakespearean
citation.
The original research on the monkey problem, relying on probabilistic
expectation, would readily pick up string matches such as "he is," but
the NeXT capacity allows for matching patterns of the rarity of
"putter; your pelly is all putter," which, with its alliterative
property, has a high probability for primate production.
The research to date has proved more fruitful than the 1977 simulation
study. For example, a twice-observed match from two different monkeys
was "what dole of honour flies where you bid it," an obvious reference
to bananas, both by brand and attribution. As was recently pointed out
in an electronic conference on MTS, "time flies like an arrow; fruit
flies like a banana."
The self-referential quality of many of the primate productions in
this research is a serendipitous finding of far great- er importance
than the mere production of Shakespearean passages. For example, "like
a geminy of baboons" was one of the matches. "When next we meet" was
also produced. Another monkey behavior, "itch from head to foot," was
observed, both in practice and in the typed text. Perhaps indicative
of the difficulty of the experimental task, one poor primate produced
"written troubles of the brain," while another gave forth "they speak
no English." These results show that the research problem is much more
complex than the mere ability of the monkeys to reproduce Shakespeare
by rote. Innate knowledge and literature appreciation must also be
studied.
There is no doubt that without the NeXT computer, research of this
caliber would be impossible. The results to date of the study are
indeed among "April's first-born flowers, and all things rare."
Although the current research has shown many instances (N=978, p=.07)
of ability to produce portions of the works of Shakespeare, it will
take many more years of intensive study to determine how much time is
enough time to reproduce all of Shakespeare. The research will
continue as long as funds for the care and feeding of the research
subjects are available.
I Bennett, William R. "How artificial is intelligence?" American
Scientist, 65:694-702, 1977.
2 Feldman, Jerome and Sprout, Robert. "Decision theory and
artificial intelligence: 11. The hungry monkey." Cognitive Science,
1:158-192, 1977.
--by Elaine Hockman
-----
So I'm thinking....wow,.....I wish I got a bannana for typing 200 characters
- Chuck
-------------------------------------------------
Steve Jobs quote From UnixWorld, April 1993
"If we give people an alternative to Microsoft... it will have been a greater good."
-------------------------------------------------
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Return-Path: <abhanson@cca.rockwell.com>
From: <abhanson@cca.rockwell.com>
Message-ID: <9506161247.AA04827@jaco.cca.rockwell.com>
Reply=To: abhanson@pobox.cca.rockwell.com
Organization: Unix System Administration, Rockwell International/CCA
Cc: abhanson@cca.rockwell.com
Subject: No floppy drive
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:47:29 -0500
Sender: abhanson@cca.rockwell.com
We have just recieved and installed our first
NextStep OS on a new Sun. We finally got it
talking nicely to the rest of the 350 other UNIX
boxes in our net.
We can not get it to see its own 3 1/2 floppy
disk. I click on the "check disks" option in one
of the menus, but nothing there.
I tried to tar a file to the drive in a "c-shell"
using the following command:
tar -cvf /dev/fd0a /etc/hosts
but that does not work.
I do not have any "sys admin manuals" to work from.
The /dev/fd0a does exist. On our other sun
systems, the floppy is /dev/fd0. Can someone tell
me if I have the wrong device for the floppy or
what to do to check out the floppy?
Perhaps, I have a bad floppy drive? I will be
swapping it with a known good one this weekend.
Thanks in advance.
\\|//
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From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted -- tool to load NS Intel from DOS (like "loadlin" from Linux)
Date: 16 Jun 1995 14:04:16 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rs310$klk@news.next.com>
References: <RDL.95Jun14002021@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.95Jun14002021@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert
La Ferla) writes:
Robin,
> You're in luck because in /usr/Dos, there is a DOS program called
> "gonext.com"
And to be even more specific, what you need to do is boot NS, copy the
gonext.com file to your DOS partition, then set up DOS to run that
command if you want to reboot into NS.
joe
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Diamond Stealth, ASUS, PS/2 mouse
Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:27:55 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rr18b$fo9@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
For what it is worth the Diamond Stealth 64 PCI card works great with my
ASSUS mother board (a P55TP4). The PS/2 mouse also works fine if one takes
the time to read the manual (which I tend not to do). You must switch the
jumper on JP7. It defaults to OFF. Moving it to the other 2 pins allows a
PS/2 mouse at IRQ 12. The mouse works great (right now I'm using an $8
mouse). There does not appear to be a need to reconfigure the Diamond
driver. Certainly I did not have to in the end.
Thank's to all who replied.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: Hugh Allan <hallan@origin.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga to NeXT file conversion
Date: 16 Jun 1995 23:49:37 +0100
Organization: Demon Internet News Service
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <9506162225.AA11994@origin.demon.co.uk>
In comp.sys.next.misc article <DA2GpG.JCF@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> you wrote:
> In article <140239@cup.portal.com>, <Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com>
wrote:
> There's a 4.3 filesystem for Amigas, although I haven't tried it. There's
> half of the battle.
>
Yes, it's on Aminet, it's entry is...
bffs1.3.lha misc/emu 185K 64+Berkeley Fast Filesystem 1.3 (Read-Write
In the docs file it states it does NOT support NeXT. So no luck there. For
Amiga to next connectivity I can only suggest LHA and DOS disks. Or wait for
Windows `95 file system to migrate to both machines. If you have a pile of
Amiga disks and no amiga this isn't much help now... Oh well....
---
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/// NeXT for work,Amiga for fun,NeXTMail loved,IRC:BucketHed| N e |\
__ /// 3DO/SNES/Jaguar/Pepsi/John Peel addict | X T | |
\\\/// Now playing: 3DO GEX |_____| |
\XX/ Current project: NeXT OffRoad olr: ######oooo \_____\|
I am The Great Cornholio, I need TP for my Bunghole - Beavis
From: mcarling@407 (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone know Ross Perot's e-mail adress?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 00:30:26 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Message-ID: <3rt7n2$g35@hustle.rahul.net>
References: <jpanicoDA3xHz.29x@netcom.com>
jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) wrote:
> Anyone know Ross Perot's e-mail adress?
> Joe Panico
> jpanico@netcom.com
I asked Steve for it nearly three years ago, and was told Ross didn't use email. That may
have changed since.
M Carling
From: mcarling@407 (M Carling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 00:36:16 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Message-ID: <3rt820$g35@hustle.rahul.net>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de> <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com>
sanguish@digifix (Scott Anguish) wrote:
> I've been a long time NewsGrazer user, and the last time I used Alexandra (0.7?) It
> didn't feel right.
> Well, 0.8 is a whole different story.
> Its quite useable and, although there are some UI things that I'd like to tweek (and
> can because it comes with source), I'm convinced that it is a better alternative for those
> who are not attached to NewsGrazer already.
I just switched from NewsGrazer (which I used for about 5 years) to Alexandra. I can't
imagine switching back. It is in very good shape for a 0.8 release.
> Constantin and Erik have done a great job.
Agreed.
M Carling
Chairman, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 02:44:49 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3rtfj1$r56@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de> <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com> <3rt820$g35@hustle.rahul.net>
mcarling@407 (M Carling) wrote:
> sanguish@digifix (Scott Anguish) wrote:
> > I've been a long time NewsGrazer user, and the last time I used Alexandra (0.7?) It
> > didn't feel right.
> > Well, 0.8 is a whole different story.
> > Its quite useable and, although there are some UI things that I'd like to tweek (and
> > can because it comes with source), I'm convinced that it is a better alternative for
those
> > who are not attached to NewsGrazer already.
> I just switched from NewsGrazer (which I used for about 5 years) to Alexandra. I can't
> imagine switching back. It is in very good shape for a 0.8 release.
> > Constantin and Erik have done a great job.
> Agreed.
M, like myself and others have fallen prey to a bug.
You must set a default From field in the preferences in order to have the proper
information in the From field...
Its noted in the Release notes, but hard easy to miss.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: Hussain Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anybody using ISDN?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 03:52:04 -0500
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950617035129.21188C-100000@avocado>
References: <3rpvtu$2pa@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3rpvtu$2pa@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Mark,
I'd love to hear any of the email responses you've gotten. I'm
interested in using NEXTSTEP and ISDN for a local network.
Thanks!
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ 314/591-4955 vox
NEXTSTEP, 314/935-5799 fax
baby hussain@artsci.wustl.edu net
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/ web
On 15 Jun 1995, Mark Hanley wrote:
> What does it take ( hardware/software ) to connect to ISDN? I'm running
> NS3.3 on black hardware. I've browsed the net looking for ISDN info,
> but found next to nothing concerning an ISDN/NeXT solution. The Motorola
> BitSURFR hardware is priced attractively, but what else to I need
> to connect to the net?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
>
From: masud@emc.worldbank.org (masud cader)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Q: DBModeler connections to ORACLE 7 or SQLServer 4.21A
Date: 14 Jun 1995 20:27:09 GMT
Organization: The World Bank Group
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <3rngmt$vh5@minerva.worldbank.org>
Keywords: SQL*Net, DBModeler, Adaptors, NT, SQLServer
Colleagues:
I have two questions relating to interfacing NEXTSTEP to a remote
database (for both questions, the host is an Intel box running SQLServer 4.21A,
or ORACLE7 (7.1) on Windows NT 3.5). Network protocol is TCP/IP. Client is a
NEXTSTEP 3.3 box.
1. Is the Sybase adaptor (which one?) certified to get into SQLServer
4.21A. With very limited trials I have not succeeded to get it working. Is
there some bit of information I am missing?
2. Does the appropriate ORACLE DBKit adaptor take the place of SQL*Net? I
have tried to connect to the remote database in DBmodeler but get a bonk and
rejected at the login dialog...no error message, and I believe it never gets to
the remote server...so it looks like a network transport error? However, I can
get to the server from a Mac unsing SQL*Net on the same net. Therein lies the
paradox!
I realize that the number of coinfiguration variables not mentioned is high,
but I hope someone out there with siomilar experience can comment. Thanks.
--Masud
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Masud Cader
ESDEM
The World Bank
masud@emc.worldbank.org
(202) 522-3202 [FAX]
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: mtools kill floppy automounter
Date: 17 Jun 1995 12:13:39 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rugtj$io2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
The mtools compiled for NEXTSTEP are rather nice, but they kill the
manual floppy automounter tool in the Workspace (NSI 3.3, "Check for
disks"). After issueing the first mtools command (a panel "Please
insert disk" pops up for the first time), "Check for disks" won't work
any more ;-( until after the next reboot (logout doesn't help). Or is
there any way to restore this ?
Gregor
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From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Tseng driver, 8-bit
Date: 17 Jun 1995 13:16:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk
Message-ID: <3rukk3$lej@odin.diku.dk>
References: <DA7wEI.53p@sybase.com>
Keywords: Tseng, NEC Image, driver
jimrob@sybase.com (James Robertson) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is an 8-bit color driver for the Tseng Labs graphics chip
>on the NEC Image 466es? (I'm currently running with 2-bit gray. I don't have enough
>vram for 16-bit.)
Try the old 3.2 beta driver. Works fine for me, also i 3.3, and it certainly
gives you more than 2 bits.
--Allan
--viggo@diku.dk
From: wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu (William V Fleitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Wanted: E-Mail Address for Bell-Atlantic
Date: 17 Jun 1995 18:54:09 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3rv8ch$4pp@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know off-hand the e-mail address for Brad SIme at Bell Atlantic
NeXT Service.
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: FIL-MAG 23Z109SM TWN911?
Keywords: NeXT, serial line, FIL-MAG 23Z109SM TWN911
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:41:23 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun17.124123.28223@proximus.north.de>
Summary: Looking for FIL-MAG 23Z109SM TWN911, destroyed serial line on NeXT h/w
Hi,
recently, the serial line of my NeXT station was destroyed by a
lightning. As letting it have repaired is far too expensive (it would
cost me more than a used station), I decided to repair it myself. Now
I found that the IC
FIL-MAG 23Z109SM TWN911
is broken. I tried to get it in Germany, but so far with no luck, I even
have not been able to find out what IC that is and what I could use a an
replacement for it! So my question is:
Does anyone know what the FIL-MAG 23Z109SM TWN911 does (probably some
filtering), where I could obtain it (how much) and what I could possibly
use as an replacement.
Any help is really very much appreciated,
sincerly, Gerhard.
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From: borrel@abdallah (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't write to defaults
Date: 17 Jun 1995 21:45:35 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <3rvidv$2n0@ratatosk.uninett.no>
I keep getting error messages on the console like:
Jun 17 15:44:23 hostname FrameMaker [10111]: Couldn't save window
NXPrintPanel in defaults
or
.............
OWController in defaults
I can't find any "defaults" file to look at permissions. What's going
on?
- Barre
Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel - finger: borrel@abdallah.hiof.no
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Unix Review implies CDE may adopt parts of NeXTstep
Date: 17 Jun 1995 23:21:10 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rvo16$msv@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
The July issue of Unix Review contains an article entitled
"Waiting for CDE" (Kevin Reichard & Eric F. Johnson) - pg. 83.
The article briefly describes the Common Desktop Environment,
mentions that it is about to start shipping from the different
supporting vendors, and discusses approaches to adopting CDE
in your applications. It then goes on to mention how several
of the original supporters are no longer supporting CDE, or
have reduced support.
The real interesting bit to me (and the bit that makes it
relevant to this newsgroup) is in the final section, entitled
"What's Next." To quote the relevent section:
"In addition, press reports indicate that the CDE
vendors have aligned with Next (Redwood City, CA)
of OpenStep fame to create something for CDE 2.0
This seems rather interesting because the Next
technology is fascinating. But it makes the future
a murkier prospect."
My biggest beef with Unix workstations in general is the
fact that the available user environments are pretty lousy.
I would be extremely pleased to see the NeXTstep Workspace
(or equivalent) on a lot of other workstations. Given
Sun's involvement in both CDE and OpenStep (including a
Workspace equivalent) and obvious advantages to Sun in
combining the two, I could potentially see them as a force
pushing for a combination. And I know that NeXT submitted
the Workspace in the original CDE process, but it wasn't
accepted. (One thing I heard at the time was that NeXT's
choice of Display Postscript scared a lot of the involved
parties; I have no way of knowing how big a factor that
actually was.)
Has anyone else seen anything about this? Does anyone know
what press releases are being referred to and how I might
retrieve them? Is this the work of an overactive imagination
on the Unix Review staff?
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
14335 Northeast 24th Street Bellevue, WA 98007
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: changing default application?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 17 Jun 1995 04:44:12 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de>
: Now I'd like to know: when and how is this file automatically changed?
: Is the syntax documented somewhere so that now I can associate Preview
: with .gif files (which it can handle if I load one manually from
: Preview)?
: _____________________________________________________________________
: Joerg von Frantzius jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de
Tools-->Inspector in WorkSpace Manager menu
Highlight one instance of the kind of file you want to associate with
the application
Use the pick-list to choose "Tools."
Move the slider-bar to view the icon for the application that you want
the file-type to be associated with.
Highlight this icon by clicking on it with the mouse cursor.
Click on the "Set Default" button at the bottom of the Inspector Panel
Note that you can associate Edit with any file -- even a binary file. In
the case of a binary file (say a .snd file or a .jpeg, or an executable)
the file displays as garbage. It's a shame that they didn't make Edit.app
do some simple Hex-based displays and edits.
Does anybody know of any commercially-availabel editors that can do this?
It would be great for a developer.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Can't write to defaults
In-Reply-To: borrel@abdallah's message of 17 Jun 1995 21:45:35 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun17222436@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rvidv$2n0@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 02:24:36 GMT
Look in ~/.NeXT.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: bmw@dard.eric.on.ca (Bruce Walker,vgi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anybody using ISDN?
Date: 18 Jun 1995 02:45:59 GMT
Organization: Visible Genetics Inc.
Message-ID: <3s0417$4dq@sator.eric.on.ca>
References: <3rpvtu$2pa@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Cc:
[Note: I would have mailed this to you, but your news s/w is misconfigured
where it adds your From: or Reply-to: header...]
In article <3rpvtu$2pa@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
Mark Hanley <hanley@popeye> wrote:
> What does it take ( hardware/software ) to connect to ISDN? I'm running
>NS3.3 on black hardware. I've browsed the net looking for ISDN info,
>but found next to nothing concerning an ISDN/NeXT solution. The Motorola
>BitSURFR hardware is priced attractively, but what else to I need
>to connect to the net?
A nice, general purpose solution is to go with an ethernet router, like
an Ascend Pipeline P50 or a small Cisco. We're running a number of P50
boxes here and they're quite handy. You can get a P50HX (that can only
talk directly to one ethernet host) for under a $K US. This way, you
won't tie yourself down to one possible architecture and somebody's
proprietary software solution.
From: lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP recommondation
Date: 18 Jun 1995 04:12:24 GMT
Organization: Mass. General Hospital
Message-ID: <3s0938$c12@bloch.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Hi, what are your recommedations for a simple PPP program that a
novice (*non-NeXT-wizzard*) can install? And where will I find it?
I have a NeXT-slab and a white Intel maschine and want to
connect both (are connected by ethernet) to the net.
Any help is appreciated. Please reply to
Ruediger Lohmann
lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
thanx :<}
From: borrel@abdallah (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: netmsgserver error?
Date: 18 Jun 1995 09:49:01 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <3s0sqd$btf@ratatosk.uninett.no>
What in the world is this? Sometimes (quite often sometimes) my Cube
goes into a spin, nothing happens in the window manager (shells are
OK, but slow) and the console says:
Jun 18 09:20:45 (myhostname) netmsgserver[23]:
crypt_decrypt_packet.km_get_dkey fails, host id = 9e242202
What's happening - what do I do to revive the thing. Sometimes I have
to reset the machine, because it just won't quit spinning.
- Barre
Børre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel - finger: borrel@abdallah.hiof.no
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: changing default application?
Date: 19 Jun 1995 01:23:18 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <3s2ji6$1117@saba.info.ucla.edu>
References: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de> <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com>
In article <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) writes:
>: Now I'd like to know: when and how is this file automatically changed?
>: Is the syntax documented somewhere so that now I can associate Preview
>: with .gif files (which it can handle if I load one manually from
>: Preview)?
>: _____________________________________________________________________
>: Joerg von Frantzius jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de
>
>Tools-->Inspector in WorkSpace Manager menu
>Highlight one instance of the kind of file you want to associate with
> the application
>Use the pick-list to choose "Tools."
>Move the slider-bar to view the icon for the application that you want
> the file-type to be associated with.
>Highlight this icon by clicking on it with the mouse cursor.
>Click on the "Set Default" button at the bottom of the Inspector Panel
>
>Note that you can associate Edit with any file -- even a binary file. In
>
I've seen this question posted a dozen times and the answerer always
seems to miss the point. I think we all know how to change the default
app to open a file *when they app is in the list.* The question is
How do you get an app into the picklist when it's not there to begin with?
i.e. I want to open *.jpg with Preview.app. Preview.app is not a choice
when you show the picklist. How do you get an unlisted app into the picklist
in question?
Charlie Dvorak
cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
Graduate School of Psychology at Pepperdine
From: root@guzzibill (guzzibill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: changing default application?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 00:52:31 GMT
Organization: CADVision
Message-ID: <3rt90f$h60@huey.cadvision.com>
References: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de>
jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de (Joerg von Frantzius) wrote:
%When I had installed the omni filter package for different graphic
%formats, after a while files ending with .jpeg have started to appear
%with an icon different from the usual text icon in the workspace.
%Using the shell I tracked down a file in a .Next-something directory
%where filename suffixes are related to applications and some other
%stuff.
%Now I'd like to know: when and how is this file automatically changed?
Solution: while in your workspace manager browser, select a file of the type you
wish to establish a new default application for so that it is highlighted on your
browser shelf.
: select Tools from the workspace manager menu
: select Inspector as your tool of choice
: from the pull-down menu at the top-centre of the inspector select TOOLS
This will provide you with a list of applications from which you may select a
DEFAULT
TA DA!
guzzibill
--
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\paperw9840
\paperh8400
\margl120
\margr120
\pard\tx1344\tx2688\tx4032\tx5376\tx6720\tx8064\tx9408\tx10752\tx12096\tx13440\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs28\fc0\cf0 MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Computers\
Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET\
BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids\
=====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
}
From: deniseh@MCS.COM (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Opener.app: New address for maintainer
Date: 19 Jun 1995 01:51:42 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <3s36pu$jl5@Mars.mcs.com>
Hi everyone--
Just wanted to let all you Opener users know that my e-mail address has
changed. From now on you can contact me at:
deniseh@filoli.com
This will become obvious whenever the next release of Opener is made, of
course, but that's some time away.
Cheers--
Denise Howard
(formerly at howardd@il.us.swissbank.com)
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 19 Jun 1995 00:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3s2fid$ilu@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
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==========================
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news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
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belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
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news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
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==================
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
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NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
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If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
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Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
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Additions from:
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From: bias@inslab.uky.edu (Brian Bias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anyone done charts for NS_Version_Deltas or various 'kits'
Date: 19 Jun 1995 09:14:13 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9506191412.AA09180@inslab.uky.edu>
Looking for:
1) Chart (.diagram?) that shows NS version deltas over time. I'm
losing track of what's backward compatible between all the versions and what
was added/broken/removed and when, etc.
2) Are there any charts that are up to date with all the current
kits / DUALing object trees, etc. (newer than the Diagram.app Version 2.5
sample doc. which is just the Appkit_3.0)
Thanks,
_________________________________
Brian Bias
Whetstone, Inc.
e-mail: brian@whetstone.com (NeXTmail/MIME/ASCII)
phone: 606.273.1752
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware
Subject: HP-XU vectra 5/90 crashes!
Date: 17 Jun 95 10:59:44
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jun17105944@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
I bought an HP-XU vectra 5/90 a month ago to run NEXTSTEP.
So far, I got only headaches, but nothing else.
1. When I installed the DeloperLibs.pkg using a NEC 3x cdrom, I
got 'Error in Installation' messages for several times. It is
really weird. The log file told me there is a CHECKSUM error in the
/lib directory.
2. I tried to display a large .tif image file by clicking the image
icon in the WorkSpace, the system would crash! I changed the
graphics display driver from NeXT's HP-XU display driver into the
S3 generic driver. The system still crashes.
Anyone has idea about what happened to my system? I have heard some
bad stories about HP 100mhz pentium PCs. How about the 90mhz ones?
Thanks,
zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Web browser and backgrouns
Message-ID: <eldDAEDsJ.Ko9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 02:05:07 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom14.netcom.com
Which, if any, Web browsers for the NeXTStep platform understand the
<body background=...> command?
eric
--
"668, The Neighbor of the Beast"
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix Review implies CDE may adopt parts of NeXTstep
Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:01:54 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Computation Center
Message-ID: <3s43h2$ksj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3rvo16$msv@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The July issue of Unix Review contains an article entitled
"Waiting for CDE" (Kevin Reichard & Eric F. Johnson) - pg. 83.
The article briefly describes the Common Desktop Environment,
mentions that it is about to start shipping from the different
supporting vendors, and discusses approaches to adopting CDE
in your applications. It then goes on to mention how several
of the original supporters are no longer supporting CDE, or
have reduced support.
The real interesting bit to me (and the bit that makes it
relevant to this newsgroup) is in the final section, entitled
"What's Next." To quote the relevent section:
"In addition, press reports indicate that the CDE
vendors have aligned with Next (Redwood City, CA)
of OpenStep fame to create something for CDE 2.0
This seems rather interesting because the Next
technology is fascinating. But it makes the future
a murkier prospect."
My biggest beef with Unix workstations in general is the
fact that the available user environments are pretty lousy.
I would be extremely pleased to see the NeXTstep Workspace
(or equivalent) on a lot of other workstations. Given
Sun's involvement in both CDE and OpenStep (including a
Workspace equivalent) and obvious advantages to Sun in
combining the two, I could potentially see them as a force
pushing for a combination. And I know that NeXT submitted
the Workspace in the original CDE process, but it wasn't
accepted. (One thing I heard at the time was that NeXT's
choice of Display Postscript scared a lot of the involved
parties; I have no way of knowing how big a factor that
actually was.)
Has anyone else seen anything about this? Does anyone know
what press releases are being referred to and how I might
retrieve them? Is this the work of an overactive imagination
on the Unix Review staff?
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
14335 Northeast 24th Street Bellevue, WA 98007
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
I thought there might be interested parties on c.s.n.advocacy
that wouldn't see this in c.s.n.misc, so I'm just reposting
this. Any one know any more about this? Any examples of the
alleged "press reports"?
_____________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: jbn@mystery-train.msilink.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: changing default application? (SOLUTION)
Date: 19 Jun 1995 16:36:04 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <3s491k$kua@ill.msilink.com>
References: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de> <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com> <3s2ji6$1117@saba.info.ucla.edu> <3s3akt$l6h@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>I just found out that the above also is an easy way to transmogrify
>Preview.app into a .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.whatnot viewer, as long as you have
>OmniImageFilter services installed. Just add the corresponding extensions
>to the header as described above, and voila - no more ImageViewer (which
>doesn't cooperate correctly with other filters), no more OmniImage (no
>scrollbars), only one Preview.app with nice scrollbars.
>You lose saving to other formats, though.
>
>Anyway, isn't NEXTSTEP cool ? :)
If your only choice was to go through all those contortions, then I'd say
no, NS is not that cool. Fortunately, Filter.app (it's on the archives with
source code) will do just what you want in a less hackish way. There are
still better ways to do this, such as using the File Viewer and adding
extensions via the extension inspector, but think would require NeXT
changing the File Viewer and the search path for icon images and extensions.
From: jcmurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jeff Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS3.2/ide problems
Date: 19 Jun 1995 20:03:31 GMT
Organization: UB
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NNTP-Posting-User: jcmurphy
i have the following system: p5-120 with 2 ide WD/caviar 1.0gb drives.
i've gotten NS3.2 to boot upto the point where it gives you the percentage
screen that has been installed so far. once at that screen, it loads about
8% and gives me a kernal panic with "mangled dir entry":
kernel panic
/private/tmp/mnta: bad dir in0 18435 at offset 0: mangled entry
mode = 077430, inum = 18437, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
panic: (cpu0) ialloc: dupalloc
panic: next mach 3.2: < date> ; root(rcbuilder): mk-149.30.15.obj~
2/rc_i386/release_I386
kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
waiting for remote debugger connection
the web page indicates that this is caused by bios reporting
different drive geometries than actually exist. it also eludes to
the possibility of using 3.3 drivers to get 3.2 to install (i don't
have a 3.3 distribution). is this possible? any suggestions on
how i can get 3.2 onto the machine?
i've tried making a 3.3 drivers disk with the updated driver.. but the
3.2 boot cycle reports 'bad magic number - no drivers found'.
any help is much appreciated..
jeff
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: HP-XU vectra 5/90 crashes!
In-Reply-To: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu's message of 17 Jun 95 10:59:44
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:28:19 GMT
Zhao,
1. Are you running the latest PCI host bridge driver?
2. Is your SCSI chain terminated properly?
3. Are your SCSI controller settings set properly?
4. Try a different brand CD-ROM drive. NEC has had many problems
with their SCSI drives. Toshiba, Sony, and Plextor are better.
5. Have you replaced any of your standard UNIX utilities like tar,
gnutar, gunzip, compress, uncompress, etc...? Changing them
can cause problems.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: hoel@umiacs.umd.edu (Erik Hoel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Enterprise Objects Framework opinions
Date: 19 Jun 1995 19:06:56 -0400
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s4vug$k8m@mimir.umiacs.umd.edu>
After reading through all available material from the NeXT website, I still
have several fundamental questions regarding the Enterprise Objects Framework:
- can it be used (in conjunction with Oracle) as a "reasonable" means
of storing general purpose objects within a conventional RDBMS? Essentially,
can it serve as a poor man's ObjectStore or Objectivity?
- is it a reasonably robust product, or would it be a mistake to use it
in this capacity?
On a related note, are there any object-oriented databased out there that
have Objective C interfaces?
Thanks for opinions and info.
Erik Hoel
hoel@cs.umd.edu
From: mark@radonc.washington.edu (Mark Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HSD address (equipment repair?)
Date: 20 Jun 1995 00:01:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle, WA
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I dimly remember seeing posts long ago that HSD Microcomputer company
moved from Mountain View (or perhaps was bought out or something).
In any case, I have a scanner from them that I need repairs on.
Anyone know how to go about finding HSD or someone who deals with
repairing their equipment?
Many thanks for any leads,
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Changing mouse pointer look?
Date: 20 Jun 1995 00:54:54 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
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Does anyone know how to do this?
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From: s580096@idy40.tfh-berlin.de (Olaf Maetzner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: black printer on/off ??
Date: 20 Jun 1995 11:01:22 GMT
Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany)
Message-ID: <3s69q2$g8q@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
I used to have the "nppower off" command in my .rc-file for switching off the NeXT-Laser printer on system-startup. Giving the print - command from any application automatically switched the printer on and just printed.
Now I switched from NS3.2 to 3.3
Same .rc-file.
a Now no application finds the printer.
for printing I allways have to modify the printer-configuration from "not available" to "private" in the printer manager.
Even if I give the "nppower on" command in a shell, the printer is still not available though it switches on.
Can anybody give me a little hint ?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 19 Jun 1995 10:58:36 GMT
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References: <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com>
I just ftp'd Alexandria and when i try to connect to my news server,
i get a message saying that the news server is not responding
correctly. Do you know what this means. I can use OS/2's
newsreader with no problems. I'm using NS3.3.
Thankx
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From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: changing default application? (SOLUTION)
Date: 19 Jun 1995 07:57:17 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <3s3akt$l6h@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <v3g+QMDE0alz7@da20.darkness.gun.de> <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com> <3s2ji6$1117@saba.info.ucla.edu>
(sorry for the german crossposting, but it's kinda useful, so..)
scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) wrote:
> In article <3rtmis$jlh@duck.inetnebr.com> plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) writes:
> >: Now I'd like to know: when and how is this file automatically changed?
> >: Is the syntax documented somewhere so that now I can associate Preview
> >: with .gif files (which it can handle if I load one manually from
> >: Preview)?
> >: _____________________________________________________________________
> >: Joerg von Frantzius jv_frantzius@darkness.gun.de
> >
> >Tools-->Inspector in WorkSpace Manager menu
> >Highlight one instance of the kind of file you want to associate with
> > the application
> >Use the pick-list to choose "Tools."
> >Move the slider-bar to view the icon for the application that you want
> > the file-type to be associated with.
> >Highlight this icon by clicking on it with the mouse cursor.
> >Click on the "Set Default" button at the bottom of the Inspector Panel
> >
> >Note that you can associate Edit with any file -- even a binary file. In
> >
> I've seen this question posted a dozen times and the answerer always
> seems to miss the point. I think we all know how to change the default
> app to open a file *when they app is in the list.* The question is
> How do you get an app into the picklist when it's not there to begin with?
> i.e. I want to open *.jpg with Preview.app. Preview.app is not a choice
> when you show the picklist. How do you get an unlisted app into the picklist
> in question?
OK, here's the beef, from an older posting to csn.software and personal
notes I wrote for a friend:
---snip---
Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>In article <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes:
>>Preview is the default opener for .ps and .tiff files. Is it possible
>>to make it the default opener for .tif tiles too? (I'm creating the
>>files under msdos and would like to keep the same names.)
>Edit __header section of __ICON Mach-O segment in executable
>/NextApps/Preview.app/Preview.
>Extract __header using segedit, edit it to add a line for "tif"
>and put it back using segedit again.
>See "man segedit" or just type the command without args.
>It should be obvious what to do from the following.
>% segedit Preview -extract __ICON __header ~/header
>% cat ~/header
>F Preview.app Preview app
>F Preview Preview app
>S ps Preview ps
>S tiff Preview
>S eps Preview
I just found out that the above also is an easy way to transmogrify
Preview.app into a .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.whatnot viewer, as long as you have
OmniImageFilter services installed. Just add the corresponding extensions
to the header as described above, and voila - no more ImageViewer (which
doesn't cooperate correctly with other filters), no more OmniImage (no
scrollbars), only one Preview.app with nice scrollbars.
You lose saving to other formats, though.
Anyway, isn't NEXTSTEP cool ? :)
Holger
---snip---
'I would say so'. :-)
First of all create a backup copy of Preview.app, in case you foul up.
Do not only make a copy of the executable, but of the complete
app-wrapper (cp -r). Then, rename the backup copy to Show.app;
the same goes for the executable itself.
Then create the 'header' file (or whatever you want to call it) and simply
add more suffixes below. Also, replace all 'Preview' occurrences with 'Show'.
I'm not sure why, but it helped and somehow seemed right. (-:
Like this:
...
S jpg Show
S gif Show
S JPG Show
S GIF Show
..whatever..
Feel free to add all the suffixes known by OmniImageFilter.
Then, do
segedit Show -replace __ICON __header <header_file> -output <new>
mv <new> <Show>
to re-insert the headers back into the executable.
Now move your new Show.app into your ApplicationPath, e.g. /LocalApps,
press CMD-U, and voila! GIFs, JPGs et. al. now suddenly can be associated
with Show.app.
Don't forget to hack Show.app's .nib to read 'Show' instead of 'Preview', so
that you can distinguish between the two.
Maybe someday I'll write a MachOEdit.app that lets you select/replace
segments and their contents, ala ResEdit - there's already MachOViewer.app
as a starting point.
Holger
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From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Message-ID: <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 22:37:01 GMT
>From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From" header,
but this does not work if the name was not set with "setdomainname" (see
above).
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From: kurhajet@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Kurhajetz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OpenSesame for NS 3.0
Date: 20 Jun 1995 10:46:00 -0400
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Message-ID: <3s6mv8INN5d@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Hello
Looking for the app 'OpenSesame' - we are running under NS 3.0 - Is
this app available for this NS release? Or is there another method for
running NS apps remotely between 2 NS systems? Thanks for the help on
this one.
Bob K.
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From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Power-Off Trouble -- 3.2 black
Date: 20 Jun 1995 18:47:05 GMT
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Message-ID: <3s7539$a0q@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Just recently, I've had trouble powering down my non-ADB mono
next-station. Either using the power-off key or the screen power-off
button gets me only a blank screen. Occasionally, it will turn off
after about 15 minutes of blankness; otherwise I've had to shut it down
from the ROM monitor. The mini-monitor (right-command ~) does work to
shut it down, but only if I hit the power-off key _twice_ after bringing
up the monitor. 'halt' from the full-size ROM monitor doesn't do it.
I guess some process isn't dieing properly -- but nothing unusual shows
up on 'ps' while the machine is running. How can I find out what
process is the trouble?
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From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: black printer on/off ??
Message-ID: <DAHAzF.JEx@waldo.com>
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
References: <3s69q2$g8q@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:57:15 GMT
Olaf Maetzner (s580096@idy40.tfh-berlin.de) wrote:
: I used to have the "nppower off" command in my .rc-file for switching off the NeXT-Laser printer on system-startup. Giving the print - command from any application automatically switched the printer on and just printed.
: for printing I allways have to modify the printer-configuration from "not available" to "private" in the printer manager.
: Even if I give the "nppower on" command in a shell, the printer is still not available though it switches on.
Same problem here. I just eventually gave up, because it just got too annoying.
Matt
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From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Having problems install NS on Gateway P5-75
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 19:44:14 GMT
I get it booted up to the point where it asks me which partition to
put NeXTSTEP on, and then it starts the install onto it.
After a while, I get a Bus Error, from /private/etc/rc.cdrom. This
doesn't make any sense, because rc.cdrom is a shell script.
I've tried several times, and the Bus Error comes at different points
in the install. I was able to get the little slider almost halfway
through the first time, but now it dies just a few files in.
Is this some sort of BIOS config problem?
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From: bbehtash@crl.com (Behzad Behtash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Installing NS 3.3 on Micron with AHA 2940W
Date: 20 Jun 1995 20:19:09 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <3s7aft$n2q@nntp.crl.com>
I am trying to install NS 3.3 on a 100 MHz Micron Millenia (Triton Chipset)
with 32 MB RAM, ATI Graphics Pro, an Adaptec 2940W controller, Seagate ST15150W
(Barracuda4 Wide), and Toshiba T3601 CDROM. I thought all the components were
O.K. but when it get to the point where it asks which partition to install
NeXTSTEP in, and I specify the partition, it comes back with the error:
DISK INITIALLIZATION FAILED
INSTALLATION ABORTED
I have a 2 GB Primary DOS partition and a 1 GB extended DOS partition. The
install seems to correctly find the remaining 1 GB free space and asks if I want
to use that space for my NS partition and then fails at initiallization.
Any ideas? Is there a problem with the Triton chipset maybe? Do I need to get
any other drivers? It seems like it sees the drive and the CDROM.
Any help or ideas greatly appreciated.
Behzad
From: Mike_Hovan@BLaCKSMITH.com (Mike Hovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:31:41 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s7ent$2nc@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
> Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
> Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From"
> header, but this does not work if the name was not set with
> "setdomainname" (see above).
Something like the following should pull the default domain name out of the DNS
namespace:
------------------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
#include <arpa/nameser.h>
#include <resolv.h>
void main(void)
{
res_init();
printf("%s\n", _res.defdname);
}
------------------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------------
"man 3 resolver" for more info.
Mike_Hovan@BLaCKSMITH.com
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From: pfkeb@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: OpenStep on HP? // FORTRAN // summary
In-Reply-To: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu's message of 12 Jun 1995 15:48:57 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.95Jun20195810@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3ra9fh$1j2@duck.inetnebr.com> <3rhnl9$2sst@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 02:58:10 GMT
>>>>> On 12 Jun 1995 15:48:57 GMT, kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) said:
> Thank you to everyone who responded to the original post. it would
> seem that those of us who prefer NeXTSTEP, but need an f90 compiler,
> are s.o.l.
Maybe it is time to consider C++ as an alternative to F90? I'm a
physicist myself and quite serious about the suggestion.
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From: cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 04:42:01 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3s87up$g46@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
In article <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>,
Constantin Szallies <tini@gurke.ping.de> wrote:
> >From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
>
> Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
> Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From" header,
> but this does not work if the name was not set with "setdomainname" (see
> above).
That is absolutely the wrong thing to do (though unfortunately it is
also a fairly common mistake, no doubt due to the rather confusing and
unclear man pages and the suggestive names of the functions).
*domainname are YP/NIS type functions which will not work on many
machines and even on those machines on which they do, they may not
give the result which you want (though that should be rather rare).
The proper way to get a FQDN is this.
#include <netdb.h>
{
char s[256];
struct hostent *h;
gethostname(s,sizeof(s));
h=gethostbyname(s);
puts(h->h_name);
}
This should work on all systems independently of YP/NIS.
Carl Edman
From: Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: black printer on/off ??
Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:12:13 GMT
Organization: Trego Systems
Message-ID: <3s9csd$j39@emerald.oz.net>
References: <3s69q2$g8q@sun24.tfh-berlin.de> <DAHAzF.JEx@waldo.com>
hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) wrote:
> Olaf Maetzner (s580096@idy40.tfh-berlin.de) wrote:
> : I used to have the "nppower off" command in my .rc-file for switching off the NeXT-Laser printer on
system-startup. Giving the print - command from any application automatically switched the printer on
and just printed.
> : for printing I allways have to modify the printer-configuration from "not available" to "private" in the
printer manager.
> : Even if I give the "nppower on" command in a shell, the printer is still not available though it switches
on.
> Same problem here. I just eventually gave up, because it just got too annoying.
>
To manage my NeXTprinter, I use a simple printer daemon, npoffd, written by Yunliang Yu
<yu@math.duke.edu>. I start npoffd from rc.local which turns on the printer for a couple of seconds,
then turns it off. Printing automatically turns the printer on. After a settable period of inactivity (I use
180 seconds), the printer automatically turns off. There's no need to ever use nppower.
If anyone would like source for npoffd, let me know.
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:34:44 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s9e6k$hbb@www.its.com>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de> <3s7ent$2nc@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
Mike Hovan writes:
> Something like the following should pull the default domain name out of the DNS
> namespace:
[ ...good code example deleted... ]
If you want to handle things more robustly, consult the sendmail source code. Search for
myhostname() in daemon.c and look at the resolver lookup code in domain.c. To the best
of my knowledge, sendmail has one of the most thorough mechanisms for getting a FQDN
out of a machine.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Pointer (again)
Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:54:05 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3s9mbt$cjj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sorry but the From was wrong (new newsreader). I want a way of generating
bunches and bunches of pointers. For instance, I'd like a larger one.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone done charts for NS_Version_Deltas or various 'kits'
Date: 21 Jun 1995 20:30:14 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3s9vgm$l1b@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <9506191412.AA09180@inslab.uky.edu>
Brian Bias (bias@inslab.uky.edu) wrote:
: Looking for:
: 2) Are there any charts that are up to date with all the current
: kits / DUALing object trees, etc. (newer than the Diagram.app Version 2.5
: sample doc. which is just the Appkit_3.0)
You can use Wood.app to generate these on your own. It is on the
ftp.cs.orst.edu archive.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: lutzray@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Lutz Raymond)
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look? (was Re: need HUGE cursors...)
Message-ID: <DAJKo5.JG5@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 21:21:40 GMT
Here's some PS code dgoodman@is.rpslmc.edu (Dave Goodman) posted
end of March 95,
<begin repost of the repost of the repost:>
In article <ZHAO.95Mar24142201@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu
(Z. Zhao) writes:
> Please post it also. I need to know how to change the size and
> color, if it is possible, of the mouse arrow and cursor. The
> mouse is too small for me to catch.
>
> zhao
Here's something someone else posted a while back...it turns your
cursor to a rainbow color. I imagine if you're handy, you could
probably set the colors to be anything you want.
Paste the text below into a file named someFileName.ps, then double
click it in workspace. The effect will last until the next time
you reboot.
[It is simpler to pipe the code through pft -Ray]
-Dave
--------8<-------Cut Here-------
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
--------8<-------Cut Here-------
<end repost>
hope it helps, RL
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compressed file system
Date: 21 Jun 1995 22:02:43 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3sa4u3$jf0@www.its.com>
References: <3s95kj$l8v@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com>
In article <3s95kj$l8v@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com>, Earl McCoy wrote:
> I am new to the NeXT environment so possibly this issue has been addressed
> before.
Actually, I don't really recall hearing about this before.
> In the UNIX-based WS world it seems individual files are compressed to save
> disk space. In the "PC world" whole file systems are "automatically"
> compressed and decompressed as users access or store a file in that
> particular file system. Stacker and Double Space are examples.
The proprietary compression schemes they use typically result in less than a 40% space
savings. Part of their claims about saving you more space assumes that you have large
(uncompressed) image files. For example, it is quite easy to compress the GIF-87 format
a lot.
However, consider that the default image format under NEXTSTEP is TIFF, and that
format already is (or can be) compressed. This has a major impact on the amount of
material on a typical NEXTSTEP system which can be compressed well.
> It seems to me that the tradeoff of access time versus space saved is
> "worth it". Disk is getting less expensive but not fast enough for my
> storage requirements.
Disk space is getting amazingly cheap-- you should be able to pick up a 1 GB drive with
external case and cable for well under $800.
Note that these filesystem-based compression schemes have a major performance
impact on all I/O (which is becoming more of a throughput limitation than CPU
performance on modern machines). Filesystem-based compression also has a significant
impact on filesystem reliability. It's a lot harder to recover a corrupted, compressed
filesystem than an uncompressed system.
Given these factors, it doesn't seem worth it for NEXTSTEP or other Unix systems. (But
then, I don't consider filesystem compression for MS-DOS or Windows to be very safe or
worth the tradeoffs either.)
> Seems the PCers have a good "solution" here. Question: Can the NeXT mount a
> compressed file system that mimicks the way Stacker works? If so please
> suggest the shell code to accomplish this.
"shell code" (whatever that is-- maybe a "shell script"?) isn't going to make NEXTSTEP
support compressed filesystems. To do that, you'd probably have to modify the kernel, or
at the least write a customized filesystem.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup with rdist
Date: 22 Jun 1995 02:31:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <3sakmh$q4e@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I would like to use rdist to back up certain directories onto a second
scsi hard drive mounted *locally*. Is this possible? I keep getting the
message
updating myhost
Permission denied.
rdist has so many nice features (incremental backup, extraneous files
removed, notification by email, ...), I'm hoping I won't have to resort to
ditto. Ideas?
Thanks for your time and advice. My sample distfile follows.
TEST_SOURCE = (dir1 dir2)
TEST_DESTINATION = myhost
test: ${TEST_SOURCE} -> ${TEST_DESTINATION}
install /dir3;
notify john;
rdist -n test [no error reported]
rdist test [above error reported]
--
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 21:46:52 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <3sa40c$hfr@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de> <3s87up$g46@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu (Carl Edman) wrote:
> ...
> The proper way to get a FQDN is this.
> #include <netdb.h>
> {
> char s[256];
> struct hostent *h;
>
> gethostname(s,sizeof(s));
> h=gethostbyname(s);
> puts(h->h_name);
> }
> This should work on all systems independently of YP/NIS.
But not with netinfo. If you have only the hostname and not the fqdn in netinfo (like
most people) you end up getting only the hostname _even_ if you have a nameserver
running (because netinfo is consulted first):
marvin buzz 181 (~/tmp):cat > fqdn.c
#include <netdb.h>
main {
char s[256];
struct hostent *h;
gethostname(s,sizeof(s));
h=gethostbyname(s);
puts(h->h_name);
}
marvin buzz 182 (~/tmp):cc -o fqdn fqdn.c
marvin buzz 185 (~/tmp):./fqdn
marvin
marvin buzz 186 (~/tmp): echo "sh*t"
cu
Bastian
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From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Installing NS 3.3 on Micron with AHA 2940W
Message-ID: <DAJ1uu.11H@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <3s7aft$n2q@nntp.crl.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 14:35:18 GMT
In article <3s7aft$n2q@nntp.crl.com> bbehtash@crl.com (Behzad Behtash)
writes:
> I am trying to install NS 3.3 on a 100 MHz Micron Millenia (Triton
Chipset)
> with 32 MB RAM, ATI Graphics Pro, an Adaptec 2940W controller,
Seagate ST15150W
> (Barracuda4 Wide), and Toshiba T3601 CDROM. I thought all the
components were
> O.K. but when it get to the point where it asks which partition to
install
> NeXTSTEP in, and I specify the partition, it comes back with the
error:
>
> DISK INITIALLIZATION FAILED
> INSTALLATION ABORTED
>
> I have a 2 GB Primary DOS partition and a 1 GB extended DOS
partition. The
> install seems to correctly find the remaining 1 GB free space and
asks if I want
> to use that space for my NS partition and then fails at
initiallization.
>
> Any ideas? Is there a problem with the Triton chipset maybe? Do I
need to get
> any other drivers? It seems like it sees the drive and the CDROM.
>
I think it s not possible to install on harddisks larger than 2 Giga.
Please consult NeXTanswers for this!
BTW if you succed please give me your performance nubers, ours with the
2940W where disapointing. The same like the non WIDE systems...
=======================================================================
Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compressed file system
Date: 22 Jun 1995 01:41:20 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <3sbabg$352@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <3s95kj$l8v@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com> <3sa4u3$jf0@www.its.com>
>> It seems to me that the tradeoff of access time versus space saved is
>> "worth it". Disk is getting less expensive but not fast enough for my
>> storage requirements.
>
>Disk space is getting amazingly cheap-- you should be able to pick up
>a 1 GB drive with external case and cable for well under $800.
You can buy a new 2 gig seagate baracuda drive (very fast) for $850 from
multiple vendors. What I want is a 4 gig scsi bar. I can buy a new
one for $1400 now. I'm waiting for $1k.
-nick
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra fetch speed
Date: 22 Jun 1995 06:03:41 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Is there a way to speed up the rate at which Alexandra fetches news
articles? NewsGrazer, although it's totally unreliable, seemed faster once it
initially fetched the subscribed newsgroups' articles. With Alexandra not only
is it slow to start but when I change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch
those articles even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd. This is
over a v.32bis modem so I don't expect immediate responses, but surely it
can't be this slow. Any help would be appreciated...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for new NS/Intel system recommendations
Date: 22 Jun 1995 13:46:44 GMT
Organization: Grand Valley State University, CSIS Dept.
Message-ID: <3sbs84$9bu@news.it.gvsu.edu>
References: <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us>
In article <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us>,
Robert C. Doss <robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us> wrote:
[...]
>Has anyone been able to get NEXTSTEP up and running on the above
>mentioned Gateway system? Does anyone know of a Pentium system in a
>comparable price range that will run NEXTSTEP? I would really like to
I can recommend a cheap Pentium that will run NextStep.
I have a Quantex QP5/100 WS-2, and NS 3.3 installed on it perfectly,
even without a SCSI controller. I used the new EIDE driver.
The system has 32 meg RAM 256k cache, a PCI 2-EIDE/2-Serial/Parallel card,
PCI ATI Mach 64 w/2meg VRAM, WD Caviar 1.28 gig EIDE hard drive,
Toshiba 4x CDROM, 28.8k internal fax/modem, Opti MAD16 sound card,
Neptune II PCI chipset, 17" MAG monitor.
This was for $3411 total including shipping.
NS 3.3 installed perfectly with one small thing. The machine has
a 2-channel EIDE controller with the hard driver and CDROM on
seperate channels. To have NS install with EIDE, the CDROM needed
to be daisy-chained to the hard drive, but once it was installed
I could move things back to how they were.
Another note is that the sound card works with both the
Microsoft Sound System driver, and the SoundBlaster 8 driver,
but not quite. You have to run a MSDOS program to initialize
the soundcard everytime you do a cold boot. But if you
don't shut the machine off or do a hard reset, you won't
need to worry about it too much.
Also, Quantex has now switched to the Triton chipset. I don't
know how this will affect things. (Probably just as compatible
with NS).
I've had the machine for a couple weeks, and I've been happy with it.
There are of course some negative things I could say about it.
A Sony monitor would be better than the MAG. And the keyboard
and mouse are kind of flimsy. But I've never found a keyboard
or mouse that I've really liked.
--
Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME>
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TransSys PNI with US-Robotics Sportster
Date: 22 Jun 1995 15:51:16 GMT
Organization: Mass. General Hospital
Message-ID: <3sc3hk$2j8@bloch.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Hi out there. I am wondering if anyone uses TransSys PNI with a
US Robotics Sportster FAX modem who could give me some advice
on the dial-in script. Only for a couple of modems these scripts
are provided with the program. I have black and white hardware and
could use NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3.
Thanks, Ruediger
lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compressed file system
Date: 22 Jun 1995 16:27:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3sc5m4$6l9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3sa4u3$jf0@www.its.com>
Chuck Swiger writes
> In article <3s95kj$l8v@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com>, Earl McCoy wrote:
> > ...In the "PC world" whole file systems are "automatically"
> > compressed and decompressed as users access or store a file in that
> > particular file system. Stacker and Double Space are examples.
> ...
> Given these factors, it doesn't seem worth it for NEXTSTEP or other
> Unix systems.
NeXT clearly considers file compression worth it otherwise we wouldn't
be running with compressed swap files. The problem is, NeXT chose to
implement it as a unique facility for a paticular file rather than a
generic compressed file system in which the swap file just happens to
live. With a little generalization, those who wanted such could have
added their own compressed file spaces as they saw fit. (E.g. for
archives, seldom used documentation, etc.)
- Christopher "I know, it's never that simple"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Looking for new NS/Intel system recommendations
Message-ID: <jpanicoDAL6FL.DEu@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us> <3sbs84$9bu@news.it.gvsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:09:21 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Bill Bereza (berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us>,
: Robert C. Doss <robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us> wrote:
: [...]
: >Has anyone been able to get NEXTSTEP up and running on the above
: >mentioned Gateway system? Does anyone know of a Pentium system in a
: >comparable price range that will run NEXTSTEP? I would really like to
NS will run on the Dell XPS p90s without any fiddling around. Installs
straight out of the box. It looks as though a couple of people have installed
NS 3.3 on the XPS p120s, but there may be a couple of irritating little
problems, though I believe the are surmountable.
Good luck.
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: vfr@ubszh.net.ch (Tim Vetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Date: 22 Jun 1995 17:35:03 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
Message-ID: <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com>
Anyone successfully installed a NEXTSTEP/Windows95 dual-boot
configuration on an Intel box's IDE drive? I have done as follows:
1. Installed NS3.3 User & 3.2 Developer with DOS partition 1,
NS partition 2, partition 2 active, NEXT boot manager
on block 0.
2. Booted in DOS, installed Win95.
3. When machine restarts, now goes directly into Win95,
ie NEXT boot manager has been overwritten; therefore
I use Win95 fdisk utility to set active partition back
to NS.
4. I reboot into NS, then as superuser rewrite boot block 0
with NS boot manager via
disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0a
5. Restart machine, now I get NS boot manager OK, and can
start NS as before, but now when I select "dos" boot
Win95 halts with message "Cannot find or load krnl386.exe".
Presumably Win95 writes something critical into boot block 0,
which is overwritten by NS boot manager. Is there a known
workaround for this?
--
Tim Vetter vfr@ubszh.net.ch (ASCII, MIME, NeXTMail)
Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development, Union Bank of Switzerland
voice: (+41) 1/2357921 fax: (+41) 1/2368392
snailmail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
From: seh@seh.codem.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Installing NS 3.3 on Micron with AHA 2940W
Date: 22 Jun 1995 18:59:37 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3sceip$7s7@regina.seh.codem.com>
References: <3s7aft$n2q@nntp.crl.com> <DAJ1uu.11H@onevision.de>
In article <DAJ1uu.11H@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de writes:
>In article <3s7aft$n2q@nntp.crl.com> bbehtash@crl.com (Behzad Behtash)
>writes:
>> I am trying to install NS 3.3 on a 100 MHz Micron Millenia (Triton
<<lots of stuff deleted>>
>I think it s not possible to install on harddisks larger than 2 Giga.
>Please consult NeXTanswers for this!
>BTW if you succed please give me your performance nubers, ours with the
>2940W where disapointing. The same like the non WIDE systems...
Has anyone produced any numbers to show where Wide SCSI is going to
produce useful results? In a single drive system, a single drive is
going to toss 4-5MB/sec off the media into a 10MB/sec bus. It seems
to me the only gain with wide is when I have enough drives on the bus
operating in parallel a significant amount of the time to use more than
the 10MB/sec bandwidth of a Fast SCSI bus. Reviews Ive seen only address
single drive configurations where either the data is only read once, or
where the OS does its own caching of sorts, and gains so far seem minimal.
>=======================================================================
>Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
>Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
>Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
>(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
-Steve
--
--------------------
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Republican: One who borrows and spends
Deficit: What forms when one borrows and spends
From: yackd@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra fetch speed
Date: 22 Jun 1995 18:52:58 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com>
References: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote:
> [...] With Alexandra [...] when I
> change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch those articles
> even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd.
It fetches titles for all the previously read articles still on the
server as well as the unread ones. I wish this fetch could be
delayed--ie, just fetch the unread titles. If I then move the
pop-up to show *all* headers, it will fetch the rest of them. Or
even cache the headers it has fetched in a local area (it already
has ~/Library/Alexandra), so it doesn't have to re-fetch them
again and then expire the cache entries after an appropriate
amount of time. Of course, local caching should be a preference.
It should aloow allow articles to be cached for a user settable
time (while in that group at least so that you can quickly return
to the article, but perhaps for the whole session, or on disk
between sessions). Some caching options would really allow
Alexandra to *fly*. Well, it isn't even at 1.0 yet, and source is
available, so...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
yackd@xmission.com
NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Date: 22 Jun 1995 22:33:20 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3scr3g$f3m@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com>
Tim Vetter (vfr@ubszh.net.ch) wrote:
: Presumably Win95 writes something critical into boot block 0,
: which is overwritten by NS boot manager. Is there a known
: workaround for this?
The only solution to this that I've seen is to boot from floppy.
--
Sean Russell \ If trees screamed, would we be so cavalier
ser@cs.uoregon.edu \ about cutting them down? Maybe, if they
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~ser ) screamed all the time, for no good reason.
Finger Me for PGP Key / --- Jack Handy
NeXTMail Welcome!!! /
From: emccoy@tra.com (Earl McCoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Compressed file system
Date: 21 Jun 1995 09:08:35 -0400
Organization: The Pipeline
Message-ID: <3s95kj$l8v@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com>
I am new to the NeXT environment so possibly this issue has been addressed
before.
In the UNIX-based WS world it seems individual files are compressed to save
disk space. In the "PC world" whole file systems are "automatically"
compressed and decompressed as users access or store a file in that
particular file system. Stacker and Double Space are examples.
It seems to me that the tradeoff of access time versus space saved is
"worth it". Disk is getting less expensive but not fast enough for my
storage requirements.
Seems the PCers have a good "solution" here. Question: Can the NeXT mount a
compressed file system that mimicks the way Stacker works? If so please
suggest the shell code to accomplish this.
Thanks in advance.
--
Opinions expressed are my own.
Earl McCoy
From: pierre@boris (Thomas Piergallini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI with US-Robotics Sportster
Date: 23 Jun 1995 03:25:01 GMT
Organization: Air Force Pentagon Communications Agency, Wash D.C.
Message-ID: <3sdc6d$8un@hq.hq.af.mil>
References: <3sc3hk$2j8@bloch.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
: Hi out there. I am wondering if anyone uses TransSys PNI with a
: US Robotics Sportster FAX modem who could give me some advice
: on the dial-in script. Only for a couple of modems these scripts
: are provided with the program. I have black and white hardware and
: could use NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3.
: Thanks, Ruediger
: lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
I have had no problems using the worldport script that is included in the
pni package without any modifications.
I think there is a possiblity that the serial drives in 3.3 are foobar though
and will be installing the Mux driver to compensate...
piere
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: su.computers.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: reversing page printing order
Date: 23 Jun 1995 03:59:48 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Very simple question: I got a new printer (an old HP LaserJet II) for my
NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system, and I'm using the demo versions of JetPilot or
Dots to print to it. By default, both print pages in reverse order (last page
to first page). Is there any way to change the configuration of the printer
so that pages come out first page first by default (when printing from both
the print panels and lpr)?
(The LaserJet II prints pages face down, so you want them to print first to
last.)
Even the pslpr command that I found doesn't seem to correctly reverse them.
But even if it did, that wouldn't be a solution for the print panels.
-Karl
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Date: 23 Jun 1995 05:17:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>
In article <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>,
Sam Przyswa <sam@musical.fdn.org> wrote:
> I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
>and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
>PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
>
> Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
>files tranfer ?
>
When I last asked this question, Larry was kind enough to send me
the following. I have not had a chance to try it out.
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 16:41:12
From: "lsr@taligent.com"
Subject: Re: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
To: jerry
In article <3nk6ec$lqh@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
(Jerry Weiss) wrote:
>Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
>Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
Photoshop can only read Illustrator EPS files. To convert arbitrary EPS
files into Illustrator format, you can try a utility ps2ai.ps that ships
with Ghostscript 3.x.
This utility is a short Postscript program. You append your EPS file to
it and run the combination through a Postscript interpreter. It
intercepts all the drawing calls and output the proper Illustrator codes.
--
Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.
lsr@taligent.com
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: Hussain Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: "short read" error on boot
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 00:28:35 -0500
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950623002808.16407G-100000@avocado>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi, all,
I've got a black NeXT, running 3.2. When I boot it I get this
odd error... what's going on here?
Boot command: sd
boot sd(0,0,0)
booting SCSI target 1,lun0
READ: sdcmd bad state:0
short read
READ: sdcmd bad state:0
short read
Can't load blk0 boot
... and then it drops to the NeXT> prompt.
I can't make it boot in single user either.
Any suggested fixes?
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ 314/591-4955 vox
NEXTSTEP, 314/935-5799 fax
baby hussain@artsci.wustl.edu net
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/ web
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:44:38 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3ser1m$g4a@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3s568u$bfa@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <3sedvl$1nv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
dlehn@sps1.phys.vt.edu (David Lehn) wrote:
[ ]
> Edit this to your preference:
How? What exactly does one have to do? Also, something odd with this
particular one as it doesn't work on my Intel setup. Two others in a similar
vein work.
[ ]
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: su.computers.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reversing page printing order
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:47:10 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ser6e$hqs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes:
>Dots to print to it. By default, both print pages in reverse order (last page
>to first page). Is there any way to change the configuration of the printer
>so that pages come out first page first by default (when printing from both
>the print panels and lpr)?
The JetPilot people sent me mail today (I had e-mailed them the question
to). To answer my own question, I just didn't know enough about ppd files.
Basically, you change the setting in the appropriate ppd file for the
printer in question. The ppd files can be found in
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/ . (Or whatever language.) The
appropriate field is "DefaultOutputOrder" which can be either "Reversed" or
"Normal".
-Karl
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,su.computers.next
Subject: Re: reversing page printing order
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:53:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3serj5$fl0@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Our friend Karl Pfleger writes:
> By default, both print pages in reverse order (last page
> to first page). Is there any way to change the configuration of the
> printer so that pages come out first page first by default
According to Printing.rtf in the ReleaseNotes:
The Admin subdirectory in the printer entries on the local host may
contain properties that have more control over the spooling process.
..
- ReversePageOrder: By default, the printed page order is governed by
the NXPrinter object for the printer. If the PPD information isn't
present, normal (face-down) order is assumed. This property can be used
to change this behavior for a particular printer. It may have the
following values:
0: Base order on PPD information.
1: Use reverse order. Always print the final job page first.
2: Use normal order. Always print the first job page first.
..
My interpretation is that this is all done via NetInfo and is one of
those directories/properties that is outside the normal 'printcap'
information. The implication is that you can also modify the PPD file.
Alternatively, for users who aren't sysadmin's on their systems (and
can't influence same) who want to reverse page order can, I believe
according to some other release notes, use the 'From:' & 'To:' fields
in the print panel. E.g. just print backwards from 5 to 1.
I haven't personally tested any of these approaches to the problem.
- Christopher
From: cortesr@gemini (Ricardo Cortes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 17:15:07 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3sesqr$ad6@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de> <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com> <3rt820$g35@hustle.rahul.net> <3rtfj1$r56@digifix.digifix.com>
sanguish@digifix.com wrote:
> mcarling@407 (M Carling) wrote:
> > sanguish@digifix (Scott Anguish) wrote:
> > > I've been a long time NewsGrazer user, and the last time I used Alexandra
(0.7?) It
> > > didn't feel right.
> > > Well, 0.8 is a whole different story.
> > > Its quite useable and, although there are some UI things that I'd like to tweek
(and
> > > can because it comes with source), I'm convinced that it is a better alternative for
> those
> > > who are not attached to NewsGrazer already.
> > I just switched from NewsGrazer (which I used for about 5 years) to Alexandra. I can't
> > imagine switching back. It is in very good shape for a 0.8 release.
> > > Constantin and Erik have done a great job.
> > Agreed.
> M, like myself and others have fallen prey to a bug.
> You must set a default From field in the preferences in order to have the proper
> information in the From field...
> Its noted in the Release notes, but hard easy to miss.
How exactly do I do this??
Ricardo
---
Ricardo Cortes
Allegheny College
cortesr@alleg.edu (NeXTMail OK)
http://ace.alleg.edu/~cortes
From: Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 18:29:01 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Message-ID: <3sf15d$l93@hustle.rahul.net>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
NNTP-Posting-User: trout
In article <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>,
Constantin Szallies <tini@gurke.ping.de> wrote:
>>From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
>
>Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
>Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From" header,
>but this does not work if the name was not set with "setdomainname" (see
>above).
>--
><-------------------------------------------------------------->
>| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
>| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
><------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
getdomainname (and /bin/domainname) only make sense if you are running yp,
which probably is not the case in most NS systems.
To get the definitive host/domain name, you should go through DNS (man
gethostbyname) or, the less optimal solution, IMHO, through NetInfo.
Another solution would be to muck about in the sendmail.cf file. Since this
is for a 'From:' line, this would make some sense since the host may be
masquerading (which would not show up if you grabbed the name via DNS).
You can scan for the M macro ('DM') or, if it can't be found, the j macro
('Dj'). Of course, if neither can be found, you will still have to go
through DNS.
Hope this helps more than it confuses.
paul kim
trout@rahul.net
trout@denizen.com
--
Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net>
From: Gary Longsine <glongsi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix Review implies CDE may adopt parts of NeXTstep
Date: 23 Jun 1995 22:41:01 GMT
Organization: USWest SA news server
Message-ID: <3sfftt$9qe@sanews.uswc.uswest.com>
References: <3rvo16$msv@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> <3s43h2$ksj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I don't know what the legal issues are here, so I'll just speak in
hypothetials.
Hypothetically speaking, I might be running the most recent Beta of Sun's CDE
on Solaris 2.4 on a SPARC 5 on my desk.
If I were, I'd be posting something like this:
[Hypothetical Post Begin]
CDE on Solaris is a marginal improvement over OpenWindows. (That wouldn't be
hard now, would it?) CDE is no improvement over Motif. In general, the
software quality is high, for non-OO code.
Also, there are some nice things. There is a virtual desktop, (but I I don't
use it much) offering 4 desktop spaces.
However:
1.) The user environment is not well designed. Many features seem highly
reminiscent of the worst from Windows, Motif, OpenWindows, and (even worse)
highly bogus add-on GUI packages like DASHBOARD. The environment is NOT
internaly consistant. There does not seem to be a design philosophy.
2.) An ICON BOX is installed by default! (For those of you who don't know, an
"Icon Box" is a separate window which collects an icon for every open window.
It really sucks. Fortunately, you can make it go away.)
3.) The non-OO nature of it makes things like this inevitable:
--Urgent message panels that lock an application and require a user decision
get popped up BEHIND other windows. You don't even know they are there.
--Applications get launched BEHIND other windows. You can't tell they came up,
except that a stupid icon showed up in the ICON BOX.
4.) Color handling sucks so bad it could pull matter from a black hole.
5.) The API isn't OO and can't be rescued. (This, of course, is the root of
most of the other problems.)
[Hypothetical Post End]
If CDE 2.0 were to adopt the NeXTSTEP workspace lock, stock, and Icon Dock, the
world would be a better place.
BTW, Unix Review RARELY even mentions NeXT at all. I doubt that they suffer
from over-active imaginations, regarding NeXT.
As for the rest of it, Sun and DEC are implementing OpenStep on Solaris and
OSF/1 (become Digital Unix?) and gnuStep will appear on a variety of platforms
(lagging behind because it's being developed by volunteer effort. Programmers,
Join Up!) There will be pressure to roll the OpenStep API into CDE, as Sun,
NeXT, and DEC are members of various standards bodies.
Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>The July issue of Unix Review contains an article entitled
>"Waiting for CDE" (Kevin Reichard & Eric F. Johnson) - pg. 83.
>The article briefly describes the Common Desktop Environment,
>mentions that it is about to start shipping from the different
>supporting vendors, and discusses approaches to adopting CDE
>in your applications. It then goes on to mention how several
>of the original supporters are no longer supporting CDE, or
>have reduced support.
>
>The real interesting bit to me (and the bit that makes it
>relevant to this newsgroup) is in the final section, entitled
>"What's Next." To quote the relevent section:
>
> "In addition, press reports indicate that the CDE
> vendors have aligned with Next (Redwood City, CA)
> of OpenStep fame to create something for CDE 2.0
> This seems rather interesting because the Next
> technology is fascinating. But it makes the future
> a murkier prospect."
>
>My biggest beef with Unix workstations in general is the
>fact that the available user environments are pretty lousy.
>I would be extremely pleased to see the NeXTstep Workspace
>(or equivalent) on a lot of other workstations. Given
>Sun's involvement in both CDE and OpenStep (including a
>Workspace equivalent) and obvious advantages to Sun in
>combining the two, I could potentially see them as a force
>pushing for a combination. And I know that NeXT submitted
>the Workspace in the original CDE process, but it wasn't
>accepted. (One thing I heard at the time was that NeXT's
>choice of Display Postscript scared a lot of the involved
>parties; I have no way of knowing how big a factor that
>actually was.)
>
>Has anyone else seen anything about this? Does anyone know
>what press releases are being referred to and how I might
>retrieve them? Is this the work of an overactive imagination
>on the Unix Review staff?
>
>--
>andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
>14335 Northeast 24th Street Bellevue, WA 98007
>(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
>I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
>
>
>
>I thought there might be interested parties on c.s.n.advocacy
>that wouldn't see this in c.s.n.misc, so I'm just reposting
>this. Any one know any more about this? Any examples of the
>alleged "press reports"?
>_____________________________________________________________
>Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
>University of Texas, Computation Center Consulting Services
>"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
>
--
Gary W. Longsine, UNIX Systems Analyst | 2: I am No. 2, You are No. 6
PARANET, Inc. | 6: Who is Number 1?
glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com | 2: You are Number 6.
Phone: (612) 531-6764 (@uswest) | 6: I am not a number. I am a free man.
From: paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OpenStep on HP? // FORTRAN // summary
Date: 21 Jun 1995 14:03:02 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s98qm$10jo@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <PFKEB.95Jun20195810@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
In article <PFKEB.95Jun20195810@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> pfkeb@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
(Paul F. Kunz) writes:
> >>>>> On 12 Jun 1995 15:48:57 GMT, kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
said:
> > Thank you to everyone who responded to the original post. it would
> > seem that those of us who prefer NeXTSTEP, but need an f90 compiler,
> > are s.o.l.
>
> Maybe it is time to consider C++ as an alternative to F90? I'm a
> physicist myself and quite serious about the suggestion.
>
Switching from F90 to C++ is probably like falling out of the frying-pan
into the fire. If you are looking for a real alternative to F90 you
should probably consider Ada95. It is fully object oriented, standardized
and much better suited for scientific programming than C++. The free
GNU-Ada compiler (GNAT), although still under developement, runs already
very nicely on the NeXT. I'm also very serious about this suggestion!
Michael
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--University of Stuttgart, Inst. of Flight Mechanics and Flight Control
--Forststrasse 86, 70176 Stuttgart, Germany
--Phone: (+49) 711-121-1434 FAX: (+49) 711-634856
--Email: Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (NeXT-Mail welcome)
From: park@isl (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: 2nd SCSI mounting problem !!!
Date: 23 Jun 1995 09:30:31 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Message-ID: <3se1jn$6bu@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hello.
I added a 2nd SCSI disk (1.3GB Hitachi, if that matters).
Everything went smoothly as explained in the system admin
guide until the point of disk initializing. I named the disk
as Hitachi, and after the initialization, it was mounted
as /Hitachi. After initializing the disk in the Workspace,
I added the following line to /etc/fstab file
/dev/sd1a /mnt/hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
But when I reboot the machine, it still mounts
the new hard disk to /Hitachi.
What am I doing wrong here ? The big trouble due to
this problem is the fact that I cannot NFS export
the new hard disk.
Did anyone had similar problems before ?
Please help.....
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help Subprocess
Date: 23 Jun 1995 09:27:55 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <3se1er$fil@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
i am posting this for my colleague who is away from his favorite
newsgrazer :) bm.
-------------
Hi,
This is a novice's question -
We have written an application which forks a child process for doing some
particular task. After this task is done we kill the child process. When
we need to do the task again we fork the child process again and the above
step is repeated. We find that we cannot create anymore child process
after a certain number of times (~ >90). Unless we quit and restart the
application we cannot create anymore child process. We understand that
there is a limit to the number of child process one can create. What we
don't understand is after the task is done we do kill the child process,
so there isn't more than one child process resident at any one time.
We would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to what can be done to fix
this problem.
Also mailing the answers to balu@lsu13e.nsls.bnl.gov would be appreciated.
Thanks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks
Balu
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: 2nd SCSI HD mounting problem on Cube !!!
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:43:15 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jun23.094231@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello.
I added a 2nd SCSI disk (1.3GB Hitachi, if that matters).
Everything went smoothly as explained in the system admin
guide until the point of disk initializing. I named the disk
as Hitachi, and after the initialization, it was mounted
as /Hitachi. After initializing the disk in the Workspace,
I added the following line to /etc/fstab file
/dev/sd1a /mnt/hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
But when I reboot the machine, it still mounts
the new hard disk to /Hitachi.
What am I doing wrong here ? The big trouble due to
this problem is the fact that I cannot NFS export
the new hard disk.
Did anyone had similar problems before ?
Please help.....
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Question: new stty for black NeXT exists ?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 20:43:01 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jun23.134052@EE.Stanford.EDU>
It seems that the NeXT version of stty doesn't accept pass8
option. I need this to display foreign characters.
Is there any new version of stty (in source or binary form)
available anywhere ?
Thanks in advance.
--- Sang Ju Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Message-ID: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:20:24 GMT
I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
files tranfer ?
THanks in advance.
Sam
---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sam Przyswa << Rock'n Jazz BBS >>
E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
--<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: dlehn@sps1.phys.vt.edu (David Lehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 23 Jun 1995 13:01:40 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sedvl$1nv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <3s568u$bfa@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how to do this?
Edit this to your preference:
---<snip>---
#!/local/bin/perl
#
# everything between here and __END__ just starts pft and pipes
# everything after the __END__ into pft. Obviously, this can be
# used to spew any customizations you want at pft (and, hence, the
# windowserver). if you use this to do other cool things to the
# window server, please send me (<bbum@friday.com>) your hacquage.
# If I receive some cool hacquage, I will compile a hacquage-package
# and submit to the net (complete w/credits, docs, and all that
# rot).
#
# have a nice day.
#
# b.bum
# <bbum@friday.com>
# open PFT -- die if we can't
open (PFT, "| /usr/bin/pft") ||
die "could not open /usr/bin/pft";
# write everything after the __END__ to pft
while (<DATA>) { print PFT; }
# close pft
close (PFT);
# everything after the __END__ is available on <DATA>; 'tis perl
# magic.
__END__
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2
%%Creator: (a postscript god @next.com)
%%Title: (cursortest.eps)
%%CreationDate: (19/3/92) (3:00 PM)
%%BoundingBox:0 0 20 20
%%
%% Another stupid EPS trick.
%%
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
---<snip>---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Can't format any disk - what happened?
Message-ID: <DAIsFo.7nx@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:11:47 GMT
For some reason my NeXT Cube and the SS10/NS have both lost the ability
to format floppies or opticals from the Workspace. The menu item is grey,
even when the disk is selected in the active browser window. I also cannot
duplicate or delete anything on these media with Workspace.app, but I can
with the command line. So the media is not write-protected or so.
I've checked permissions on /usr/filesystems/*/*, and the executables
there are all setuid-root, so it doesn't seem to be a permission problem
either.
Even sillier, it works on my Intel machine.
All are running NS3.3, and I am logged on as a normal user.
Volker
P.S. I wouldn't ask, normally, but I'm in an extremely tight schedule since
I debugged DoomII/SPARC and can't justify to put any time into that. So if
anyone has a solution I'll be very happy if they would share it.
---
This posting is (c) 1995 V. Herminghaus (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de).
Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in
whole or in part. Please send notices of violation to Postmaster@microsoft.com
"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss)
Subject: Re: Having problems install NS on Gateway P5-75
Message-ID: <DAMzvJ.DKB@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <DAHLHq.HHx@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 17:42:55 GMT
Has anyone out there been able to successfully install NEXTSTEP on a
Gateway 2000 Pentium system by any means? Is it possible to install it
on a Gateway. I am seriously considering buying a Gateway 2000 Pentium
system if and *only* if it is possible to install and run NEXTSTEP.
Any response to my dilemma would be appreciated.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: honk!jan (Jan Husak)
Subject: tete
Message-ID: <DAHFuG.7nG@honk.nug.ch>
Sender: jan@honk.nug.ch (Jan Husak)
Organization: Jan Husak, Aesch, SWITZERLAND
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:42:16 GMT
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
+ ,,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)-,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
---+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)-,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
---+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Aaah, ein Stadtmensch! Sie denken wohl auch, dass wir ein +
+ bisschen altmodisch sind. Aaaaber vorsicht! It cool man +
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
+ ,,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: NeXT 400dpi printer increasing thickness of lines & type?
Message-ID: <1995Jun23.110946.919@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:09:46 GMT
(Please reply-to: pat@pattern.rmnug.org -- unless posting to this
group)
Our printer is producing a thicker line than it was two years ago.
There has been an increase of about one point (1/72 of an inch) in
the thickness of type, lines, etc. I think it might have started when
we switched to recycled cartridges for a time, then returned to the
standard Canon/HP new ones, because the consistency of the type with
the refills was awful. Having been the conventional printing industry
before this for many years, several thoughts come to mind:
1. The formula in the cartridges has been changed, or we were using
some brand in the beginning that we are not aware we are not using
now.
2. Some physical adjustment has moved in the printer itself, perhaps
as a normal part of wear, and needs to be readjusted. We have put
about 66 reams of paper through this printer.
We have not changed paper (Weyerhauser 24#) or software or hardware
since we installed the printer.
Patricia Wagner
pat@pattern.rmnug.org
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Date: 23 Jun 1995 20:42:27 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <3sf8vj$hi8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> <3scr3g$f3m@pith.uoregon.edu>
ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell) wrote:
> Tim Vetter (vfr@ubszh.net.ch) wrote:
> : Presumably Win95 writes something critical into boot block 0,
> : which is overwritten by NS boot manager. Is there a known
> : workaround for this?
> The only solution to this that I've seen is to boot from floppy.
Nope, the way Tim did it was correct - unfortunately, Lose'95
occasionally decides to kill itself, the disk, the filesystem or
all at once. Happened to me roughly 5 times during -one- night.
At some point (about 8 a.m.) I just stopped trying...
Holger
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From: Dominic Hopton <Dombo@darkhors.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:03:44 GMT
Organization: Dark Horse Comminications Ltd
Message-ID: <715861952wnr@darkhors.demon.co.uk>
References: <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> <3scr3g$f3m@pith.uoregon.edu> <3sf8vj$hi8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In article: <3sf8vj$hi8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
writes:
> Nope, the way Tim did it was correct - unfortunately, Lose'95
> occasionally decides to kill itself, the disk, the filesystem or
> all at once. Happened to me roughly 5 times during -one- night.
> At some point (about 8 a.m.) I just stopped trying...
As far as i can tell windoze'95 is stable and has to crash in a serious way, maybe your '95
machine is flaky any way...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: mtools kill floppy automounter
Message-ID: <1995Jun24.201458.891@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3rugtj$io2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 20:14:58 GMT
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote:
>The mtools compiled for NEXTSTEP are rather nice, but they kill the
>manual floppy automounter tool in the Workspace (NSI 3.3, "Check for
>disks"). After issueing the first mtools command (a panel "Please
>insert disk" pops up for the first time), "Check for disks" won't
work
>any more ;-( until after the next reboot (logout doesn't help). Or is
>there any way to restore this ?
> Gregor
>--
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>| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
>| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Try /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a after using mtools.
Hope that helps
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Help: 2nd SCSI mounting problem !!!
Message-ID: <1995Jun24.222552.2401@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3se1jn$6bu@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 22:25:52 GMT
park@isl (Sang Ju Park) wrote:
>Hello.
>I added a 2nd SCSI disk (1.3GB Hitachi, if that matters).
>Everything went smoothly as explained in the system admin
>guide until the point of disk initializing. I named the disk
>as Hitachi, and after the initialization, it was mounted
>as /Hitachi. After initializing the disk in the Workspace,
>I added the following line to /etc/fstab file
>/dev/sd1a /mnt/hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
remove this________________________^^^^^^
>But when I reboot the machine, it still mounts
>the new hard disk to /Hitachi.
>What am I doing wrong here ? The big trouble due to
>this problem is the fact that I cannot NFS export
>the new hard disk.
>Did anyone had similar problems before ?
>Please help.....
>--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nlee@s6.math.umn.edu (Namyong Lee)
Subject: NeXTSTEP on Zeos Pantera - nicely work!
Message-ID: <nlee.804034482@s6.math.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 22:54:42 GMT
Zeos Pantera Pentium90 works very nicely with NeXTSTEP, Linux, Windows95 etc.
We have used
Diamond Stealth 64 2VRam + NEC 17" monitor
Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller + NEC 3x SCSI CD
SoundBlaster16 Pro, serial mouse
However, whenever I boot the system, it boots NEXTSTEP as a default.
Is there any way that I can change the default as DOS/Windows?
nlee@math.umn.edu
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.softwarem,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: free/share-ware sql database ?
Date: 24 Jun 95 19:47:09
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
I am wondering if there is any free/share-ware SQL database on the
public domain for ether NEXTSTEP or other unix platform?
Thanks,
zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: SB16+CD-ROM -mixing?
Message-ID: <DApr0t.74L@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 05:24:29 GMT
Is there some way to get the output from a CD-ROM (i.e. from the RCA jacks
in the back of my Apple CD300) to go into the line in of the SB16 and
emerge from the line out of the SB16 into some speakers? I thought mixing
was supported? Also, in SoftPC the program seems to think that the SB16 is
not there or is configured differently than it is. In short, how do you get
the SB16 to work properly on a NeXT PC under 3.3...Thank's...
--
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT mail ok!]
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@indra.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: uncompressing a driver
Message-ID: <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com>
Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Operator)
Organization: Monkey Training
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 06:42:15 GMT
I was curious how to go about uncompressing a .com file in the DOS world.
I need this driver before I prepare an Intel install.
thanks
e.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Infor no NeXT??
Message-ID: <1995Jun25.030454.52626@msuvx2.memphis.edu>
From: umkling@msuvx1.memphis.edu (Moses)
Date: 25 Jun 95 03:04:54 -0500
Hi!
I'm looking for infor on NeXT on X86 platform. Can any one tell me
where I can get NeXT and the price. I'm just like many others try to learn
more about diffreant OS. This might sound stupid to some of you guys but
that's my life
Thanks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Message-ID: <DAqDI3.AGK@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 13:30:03 GMT
In article <3sc9k7$a4f@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> vfr@ubszh.net.ch (Tim Vetter)
writes:
> Anyone successfully installed a NEXTSTEP/Windows95 dual-boot
> configuration on an Intel box's IDE drive? I have done as follows:
>
> 1. Installed NS3.3 User & 3.2 Developer with DOS partition 1,
> NS partition 2, partition 2 active, NEXT boot manager
> on block 0.
>
> 2. Booted in DOS, installed Win95.
>
> 3. When machine restarts, now goes directly into Win95,
> ie NEXT boot manager has been overwritten; therefore
> I use Win95 fdisk utility to set active partition back
> to NS.
>
> 4. I reboot into NS, then as superuser rewrite boot block 0
> with NS boot manager via
> disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0a
>
> 5. Restart machine, now I get NS boot manager OK, and can
> start NS as before, but now when I select "dos" boot
> Win95 halts with message "Cannot find or load krnl386.exe".
>
> Presumably Win95 writes something critical into boot block 0,
> which is overwritten by NS boot manager. Is there a known
> workaround for this?
>
> --
> Tim Vetter vfr@ubszh.net.ch (ASCII, MIME, NeXTMail)
> Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development, Union Bank of Switzerland
> voice: (+41) 1/2357921 fax: (+41) 1/2368392
> snailmail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
As far as I saw the whole windoze'95 stuff on my harddrive, Microsoft
has not only a new Windows, it has a new filesystem as well. I think,
the NeXTBootmanager is not able to handle with the this new filesystem,
because is still uses MS previous one.
What's about the OS/2 Bootmanager, perhaps this works?
Nice greetings from Munich
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Help: 2nd SCSI HD mounting problem on Cube !!!
Message-ID: <DAqDnw.AHJ@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <95Jun23.094231@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 13:33:31 GMT
In article <95Jun23.094231@EE.Stanford.EDU> park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju
Park) writes:
> Hello.
>
> I added a 2nd SCSI disk (1.3GB Hitachi, if that matters).
> Everything went smoothly as explained in the system admin
> guide until the point of disk initializing. I named the disk
> as Hitachi, and after the initialization, it was mounted
> as /Hitachi. After initializing the disk in the Workspace,
> I added the following line to /etc/fstab file
>
> /dev/sd1a /mnt/hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
>
> But when I reboot the machine, it still mounts
> the new hard disk to /Hitachi.
>
> What am I doing wrong here ? The big trouble due to
> this problem is the fact that I cannot NFS export
> the new hard disk.
>
> Did anyone had similar problems before ?
>
> Please help.....
>
>
> --- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
>
>
Hi Sang,
try this:
/dev/sd1a /usr/mnt 4.3 rw,noquota 1 2
It works fine for me.
--
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/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
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From: ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Psion Link
Date: 25 Jun 1995 12:53:57 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199506251746.TAA09245@ns.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
References: <9504160843.AA03535@envirolink.org>
Hi all of you,
I am terribly sorry for delay - I have been _very_ busy
reestablishing my Inet connections (still partly remaining problems
caused by lightning).
Now I'm able to continue on the S3Link. Bugs were reported on
NeXTs; I'll upload (hopefully) fixed version to cs.orst.edu in a
week or so. Strangely enough, nobody had reported transfer problems
since yet - I take it the transfer (at least on Intel machines)
works well.
LET ME PLEASE KNOW if anybody wants to use the S3Link, but has no
FoundationKit. Now I _am_ able to release version independent on FK
in very short time!!!
I hope final 1.0 (including eg multiple file transfer) will be out
till August (once more sorry for delay).
--
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: uncompressing a driver
Date: 25 Jun 1995 13:53:29 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <3skic9$mu8@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com>
In article <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com>, Eric Davis <eld@indra.com> wrote:
> I was curious how to go about uncompressing a .com file in the DOS world.
>I need this driver before I prepare an Intel install.
>
files named something.compressed
are in reality something.tar.Z files, so to open them up, you need
something like
uncompress
and then something like
tar or gnutar
If I'm confused, and the file was a dos file like stuff.com, then that is an
executable file in dos.
-nick
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 26 Jun 1995 04:15:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3slc8f$ca1@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
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news:comp.sys.next.announce
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
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ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
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If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
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Written by:
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Additions from:
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Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP and compression
Date: 26 Jun 1995 05:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <3slgi4$1cre@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I am asking this question here instead of a UniX group because I know the Next
40 slab has its own serial quirks.
What speed should I put into my PPP config file? I have it set to 57600 as it
is the highest I could get it to go. What I am wondering is, given compression
with the Modem, a ZyXEL U-1496E, and with the IP packets compressed with PPP am
I compressing too much and making the packets larger then with just Modem or
PPP compression. Should I set the PPP speed to something else?
--
Torrey McMahon
From: szschaff@dale.ucdavis.edu (Charles Schaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXt, where the hell cna i get it?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 06:18:56 GMT
Organization: Information Resources, UC Davis
Message-ID: <3sljgg$3kf@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Ok I've got:
Pentium-120, 16 megs EDO ram, 256k pipeline burst cache, (asus p55tp4xe)
Sound Blaster 16
Diamond Stealth 64 Video Vram (OEM) w/ 2 megs Vram
4x toshiba xm-5301 (i think, it's a scsi-2)
Adaptec 2940 SCSI-2 pci disk controller
1 gig fujitsu SCSI-2 drive
I'd like to run nextstep on my computer, I've heard so many good things
about it, but I still have a few questions.
1. IS the above setup fast enuff and compatible?
2. How much does NeXt cost
3. Does next offer Mac compatibillity?
4. Where the hell can I get NeXt in Sacramento, CA?
TIA
If this is in the FAQ please mail it to me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 15:27:48 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Subject: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI
Message-ID: <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de>
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Hi!
My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A).
The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it.
The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386.
Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Installing via EIDE...
Message-ID: <eldDAr9A9.D6o@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 00:56:32 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom17.netcom.com
Well, after 3 long days of trying to install NeXTStep through the EIDE
ATAPI Driver, I must give up. (for those of you that don't know, you CAN
install NeXTStep through an IDE IF you have the correct CD-ROM Drive and
ATAPI driver)
I have the CD-ROM drive that NeXT recommends, I have the jumpers setup as
master/slave for the HD/CD-ROM, and I have the ATAPI driver, but the
NeXTStep installer cannot find my CD-ROM drive.
I will call NeXT tomorrow, but for now, I can't imagine HOW this
installation is performed.
eld
--
"668, The Neighbor of the Beast"
From: Yvan Frey <yvan_frey@studio.disney.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix Review implies CDE may adopt parts of NeXTstep
Date: 26 Jun 1995 02:49:11 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Co.
Message-ID: <3sl777$lov@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
References: <3rvo16$msv@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> <3s43h2$ksj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3sfftt$9qe@sanews.uswc.uswest.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: glongsi@nma.mnet.uswest.com
Hi Gary!
You mentioned gnuStep. Can you point me to more info about it and how to
join developers?
Thanks,
Yvan
From: ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Psion Link
Date: 26 Jun 1995 11:32:51 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199506261624.SAA17455@ns.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
References: <9504160843.AA03535@envirolink.org>
Hi all of you,
I am terribly sorry for delay - I have been _very_ busy
reestablishing my Inet connections (still partly remaining problems
caused by lightning).
Now I'm able to continue on the S3Link. Bugs were reported on
NeXTs; I'll upload (hopefully) fixed version to cs.orst.edu in a
week or so. Strangely enough, nobody had reported transfer problems
since yet - I take it the transfer (at least on Intel machines)
works well.
LET ME PLEASE KNOW if anybody wants to use the S3Link, but has no
FoundationKit. Now I _am_ able to release version independent on FK
in very short time!!!
I hope final 1.0 (including eg multiple file transfer) will be out
till August (once more sorry for delay).
--
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
From: nsv@fct.unl.pt (Nuno Viegas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: free/share-ware sql database ?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 16:49:41 GMT
Organization: F.C.T. - Universidade Nova de Lisboa
Message-ID: <3smof5$19t@host.di.fct.unl.pt>
References: <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
In article <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z.
Zhao) writes:
> I am wondering if there is any free/share-ware SQL database on the
> public domain for ether NEXTSTEP or other unix platform?
>
> Thanks,
> zhao
Try miniSql. There's an adaptor available for it.
--
Nuno Viegas
Pra a Professor Santos Andrea, 15 r/c D Phone: (01) 714 38 37
1500 LISBOA
PORTUGAL
NeXTMail: nsv@fct.unl.pt
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PNI slip
Date: 26 Jun 1995 17:41:27 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3smrg7$ff7@pith.uoregon.edu>
I have been having a little trouble getting Transsys PNI SLIP to work.
I can connect to the server at the University of Oregon but it never
finds the slip information that is supposed to be sent back to me.
I send my username, password, and the command to start slip. My
config file then waits to see "Your IP addres is ....", but it never
comes. It eventually times out. When I login through cu and type
the same commands everything works fine (except of course that slip
doesn't work through cu)
Does anyone have a config file that shows the proper way to rexpect
a IP address and configure the local computer to work with that adress?
Thanks
a
Nick Fogelson
dfsda
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 06:45:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sll1m$n3r@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3r678v$8qb@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <DA0z4A.27L@gurke.ping.de> <3ri4a6$52l@digifix.digifix.com> <3rt820$g35@hustle.rahul.net> <3rtfj1$r56@digifix.digifix.com> <3sesqr$ad6@mustang.alleg.edu>
cortesr@gemini (Ricardo Cortes) wrote:
> > You must set a default From field in the preferences
> > in order to have the proper information in the From field...
> >
> > Its noted in the Release notes, but easy to miss.
> How exactly do I do this??
Check under the Info menu, and you'll see both "Release Notes"
and "Preferences..." in the submenu. The release notes mention
the issue. Under "Preferences...", check the panel for "Compose"
options. There you'll see a list for "Additional Headers". In
this case, of course, you're replacing a header (and not really
adding a new one), but that's where you do it.
So, just type in "From" as the left-hand side of one row in that
list, and type Ricardo Cortes <cortesr@alleg.edu>
as the right-hand side. Click on the "Set" button.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WTB: HD face plate for Cube
Date: 26 Jun 1995 19:10:17 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <95Jun26.120740@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello.
I have cube and its optical drive died. Instead of buying
a new OD, I bought a second hard disk and installed it.
That leave a hole in front of my cube. So is there
any place where I can buy the small plate to fill that
hole ? Or should I leave it unfilled for the ventilation ?
Thanks in advance for any info.
--- Sang Ju Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: PB 520 to NeXTStation for printing.
Message-ID: <vfr750DAt3A1.Cxs@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:42:00 GMT
Sender: vfr750@netcom9.netcom.com
I'm just wondering what the hot tip on connecting up a PB 520c to my
slab from 3.2 is so that I can take advantage of my printer.
Sneaker Net seems to work okay so far, but Postscript files get pretty
big, pretty fast...so my sneaker may be too small.
Hints and tips appreciated.
--
Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com
1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!"
1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: free/share-ware sql database ?
Message-ID: <DAsxEA.BHu@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:34:57 GMT
In article <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
writes:
> I am wondering if there is any free/share-ware SQL database on the
> public domain for ether NEXTSTEP or other unix platform?
>
> Thanks,
> zhao
Yes try MiniSQL. Its compiled for NeXTSTEP and can be found on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Nice stuff :-) :-)
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
__ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: uncompressing a driver
Message-ID: <DAsxGF.BIL@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:36:14 GMT
In article <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com> eld@indra.com (Eric Davis) writes:
> I was curious how to go about uncompressing a .com file in the DOS world.
> I need this driver before I prepare an Intel install.
>
> thanks
> e.
A .com File is a program, not a packed one :-)
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
__ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI
Message-ID: <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:39:05 GMT
In article <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de>
writes:
> Hi!
>
> My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A).
> The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it.
>
> The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386.
>
> Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
> _ _
> _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
> (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
> _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
> (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
Tell us more about 'the why it doesn't work or what is going wrong' .
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
__ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
From: chris@opensource.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dual-booting Win95 & NS
Date: 27 Jun 1995 00:43:40 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3snk7s$f59@trane.opensource.com>
References: <DAqDI3.AGK@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Michael Maximilian Goedel writes
>
> As far as I saw the whole windoze'95 stuff on my harddrive, Microsoft
> has not only a new Windows, it has a new filesystem as well. I think,
> the NeXTBootmanager is not able to handle with the this new filesystem,
> because is still uses MS previous one.
>
> What's about the OS/2 Bootmanager, perhaps this works?
>
I had this problem with an NT install when selecting the NTFS as part of
the NT install. When I reinstalled NT, this time using the FAT, FS, the
Next boot0 boot manager did fine. There are alot of 'boot commander'
software packages which can be installed under DOZE which will correctly
deal with all the various MS 'standard but better ;^)' boot blocks. If I
had the misfortune to install Lose95, I would probably look for a way to
use a standard FAT FS, and barring that I would get some boot commander
software which claimed to let you boot Lose95 as well as other OS's. Some
of them have some 'snappy MS character-based' interfaces.
Chris
From: shaler@best.com (Michael Shaler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:11:30 -0700
Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378
Message-ID: <shaler-2706950111300001@shaler.vip.best.com>
References: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org> <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>, j-weiss@nwu.edu wrote:
> In article <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>,
> Sam Przyswa <sam@musical.fdn.org> wrote:
> > I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
> >and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
> >PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
> >
> > Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
> >files tranfer ?
> >
>
[snip]
>
> This utility is a short Postscript program. You append your EPS file to
> it and run the combination through a Postscript interpreter. It
> intercepts all the drawing calls and output the proper Illustrator codes.
>
Tailor can save PS files as .ai files natively.
Michael Shaler
GS Corporation
From: pit@informatik.fh-augsburg.de (Krick Peter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Next Multiprocessing?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 08:58:44 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule Augsburg
Message-ID: <3soh84$gfm@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de>
Hi All,
Some months ago I bought an ASUS DualPentium board. Now I think that the
prices for a P90/100 are nice enough to install a second CPU.
But NS doesn't support a second CPU. My question is:
Does anybody know when NS will support two or more Intel CPUs?
When will NS 4.0 be delivered out?
Many questions
important questions
CU
Pit
From: gt0938b@prism.gatech.edu (Staying Alive)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 2 bit grey scale
Date: 24 Jun 1995 02:40:19 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt0938b@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <3sgc0j$o4p@acmex.gatech.edu>
References: <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us> <3sbs84$9bu@news.it.gvsu.edu> <jpanicoDAL6FL.DEu@netcom.com>
what does a 2 bit grey scale display look like?
I'm cosidering installing NS on a portable and
want to know what it will look like? Will it
be comparable to the grey scale display on nextcubes
with monochrome displays?
--
Staying Alive
From: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help Subprocess
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 27 Jun 1995 12:47:22 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3soukq$fur@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3se1er$fil@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
brendan mcdougall (mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu) wrote:
> step is repeated. We find that we cannot create anymore child process
> after a certain number of times (~ >90). Unless we quit and restart the
you've hit the max. limit of child processes for your user id.
the reason is that, although you have killed the process, it
still hangs around in the process table until the parent process
gets its exit status. (it is known as a zombie, and NeXT's ps doesn't
seem to show zombies, but they still exist - spooky, huh ?)
the solution is to use the wait(2) system call after your child process
has terminated.
the following code works ok :
{
union wait inf;
int pid;
pid = wait(&inf);
if (pid == -1)
perror("wait");
else if (inf.w_termsig)
{
printf("process %d wait down on signal %d\n", pid, inf.w_termsig);
if (inf.w_coredump)
printf("core dumped\n");
}
else
printf("process %d exited with code %d\n", inf.w_retcode);
}
it should perhaps be noted that it isn't normal for parent processes
to kill their children, but to wait for them to exit(2) themselves.
this avoids lots of possible nasty race conditions, and generally makes
for a tidier system. if it is possible, you should arrange for the
child process to exit when its job is done, after notifying the parent
in some way that it is finishing.
cheers,
rog.
From: guptaa@alleg.edu (ANI )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Subject: Need IBM .TIF -> NeXT TIFF conv. util.
Date: 27 Jun 1995 13:25:00 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sp0rc$kdg@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hello,
Does anyone know of how to convert IBM .TIF format to NeXT native TIFF format?
Opening IBM .TIF files in NEXTSTEP causes the images to come up losing much
information. These are images saved in Adobe Photoshop for windows. Is there a
utility to convert pdf files to NeXT native TIFF?
Thanks.
Please post directly to my email since I have frequent problems with my
newsreading software.
-Ani.
guptaa@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: PPP and compression
Message-ID: <DAsvoA.LvK@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3slgi4$1cre@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:57:46 GMT
In article <3slgi4$1cre@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
Torrey McMahon <tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu> wrote:
>I am asking this question here instead of a UniX group because I know the Next
>40 slab has its own serial quirks.
>
>What speed should I put into my PPP config file? I have it set to 57600 as it
>is the highest I could get it to go. What I am wondering is, given compression
>with the Modem, a ZyXEL U-1496E, and with the IP packets compressed with PPP am
>I compressing too much and making the packets larger then with just Modem or
>PPP compression. Should I set the PPP speed to something else?
>
On my '040 cube I have a USR Sportster V.34; however the other end only has
some sort of 14.4k modems. Anyway, I usually run the serial port at 38400 and
use a MTU of 296. I get about 2.8k/s on raw text. Changing the MTU to 1500
gave me about 2.85k/s, but made interactive work durring the FTP transfer
maddening. Changing the serial port speed to 57600 (and leaving the MTU at
296) gave me about 2.85k/s again, but the machine felt *very* sluggish. Window
drags were worse than on an '030.
I'm sticking with MTU=296 and serial speed of 38400, at least until V.34
modems show up on the other end. Then I'll re-evaluate it all.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
Message-ID: <199506271720.AA047103608@relay1.geis.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:00:00 UTC
Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com
Subject: HP DAT Drive
>My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A).
>The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it.
>The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386.
>Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
You need to install the NEXTSTEP Tape device driver.
It should already be in your system, just install it.
Look at NEXTANSWERS to download the device driver if you don't
have it.
Eric "E.T."
Walnut Creek CDROM
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PNI slip
Date: 27 Jun 1995 22:11:17 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3spvm5$roh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3smrg7$ff7@pith.uoregon.edu>
fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) wrote:
> I have been having a little trouble getting Transsys PNI SLIP to
> work. I can connect to the server at the University of Oregon
> but it never finds the slip information that is supposed to be
> sent back to me.
> Does anyone have a config file that shows the proper way to
> rexpect a IP address and configure the local computer to work
> with that adress?
If you check:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/comm
You'll find a few files that may be of help. These files are also
at ftp.cs.orst.edu, but I forget where. While I do hope the writeup
there is helpful (I wrote it...), I can't offer to write other
people's configuration scripts.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: erik@naggum.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.sys.unisys,comp.text.frame,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.theory,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: cmsg cancel <3sn6cc$g69@Sequoia.picosof.com>
Control: cancel <3sn6cc$g69@Sequoia.picosof.com>
Date: 26 Jun 1995 21:36:30 GMT
Organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <19950626T213630Z@naggum.no>
--
NETSCAPISM /net-'sca-,pi-z*m/ n (1995): habitual diversion of the mind to
purely imaginative activity or entertainment as an escape from the
realization that the Internet was built by and for someone else.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: You Have New Mail?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 20:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3spre4$mje@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Can anyone please tell me where to find the sound file
"You have new mail"? It had the same voice of the nice
English lady that tells you the printer is out of paper.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
http://libra.arch.umich.edu/Students/Wassim.Jabi/Portfolio/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller)
Subject: Re: Question: new stty for black NeXT exists ?
References: <95Jun23.134052@ee.stanford.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:28:35 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun28.082835.26344@proximus.north.de>
In article <95Jun23.134052@ee.stanford.edu>,
Sang Ju Park <park@isl.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>It seems that the NeXT version of stty doesn't accept pass8
>option. I need this to display foreign characters.
For me it works:
gemoe@proximus 863> stty everything 10:18
new tty, speed 38400 baud, 24 rows, 132 columns
even odd -raw -nl echo -lcase -tandem tabs -cbreak
crtbs crterase crtkill -ctlecho -prterase -tostop
-eucbksp -flusho -mdmbuf -litout pass8 -nohang
pass8out -pendin -decctlq -noflsh -extproc
erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof
^? ^U ^W ^R ^O ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D
gemoe@proximus 864> grep stty ~/.zdir/.zshrc 10:19
stty pass8 pass8out
gemoe@proximus 865> echo "give me some umlauts: öÙöû (Not ISO-Latin-1)¼" 10:21
give me some umlauts: öÙöû (Not ISO-Latin-1)¼
But you might use Terminal or something similar, and have configured
your Alt-Key to META. Check the settings of your terminal emulatioen.
Also note carefully that not all shells are 8-bit clean. zsh is, btw.
Finally I hope you know that not every shell utility handles 8 bits. But
most GNU stuff does.
While we're on it: I am not Able to produce (type) the big umlauts …–š
in the shell, even Ctrl-V does not work, I get some strange Contol
characters: echo '^Ö^Å^Ú'
Finally: NeXTs stty does not understand "sane", does anyone know a
stty that does?
Gerhard.
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From: mouring@netnet.net (Ben A Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: free/share-ware sql database ?
Date: 28 Jun 1995 04:09:36 GMT
Organization: NetNet, Inc. Wisconsin's Leading Internet Provider
Message-ID: <3sqkm0$h3b@netnet2.netnet.net>
References: <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> <DAsxEA.BHu@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Michael Maximilian Goedel (mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de) wrote:
: In article <ZHAO.95Jun24194709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
: writes:
: > I am wondering if there is any free/share-ware SQL database on the
: > public domain for ether NEXTSTEP or other unix platform?
: >
: > Thanks,
: > zhao
: Yes try MiniSQL. Its compiled for NeXTSTEP and can be found on
: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
: Nice stuff :-) :-)
One small warning about MiniSQL. I've been doing some EOF development
with it and there are a lot of higher level SQL functions that do
not exist in the current version. The newst version (coming out soon I
hope!! =-) is suppost to support more SQL functions. (Example: Multiply
Keys are not supported currently =-( )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: uncompressing a driver
Message-ID: <eldDAv6zM.JEC@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com> <DAsxGF.BIL@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 03:57:22 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom6.netcom.com
Michael Maximilian Goedel (mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de) wrote:
: In article <DApuHL.HyA.0.server@indra.com> eld@indra.com (Eric Davis) writes:
: > I was curious how to go about uncompressing a .com file in the DOS world.
: > I need this driver before I prepare an Intel install.
: >
: > thanks
: > e.
: A .com File is a program, not a packed one :-)
I guess I should have explained the situation better. I FTPed this
driver from ftp.next.com. As it turnes out, a NeXT .tar.z file is
written in DOS as "name.com". COM meaning compressed.
news to me...
thanks for the respnoses though.
eric
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: 2 bit grey scale
Message-ID: <eldDAv76r.Jzo@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <DAHs1w.JCu@nvc.cc.ca.us> <3sbs84$9bu@news.it.gvsu.edu> <jpanicoDAL6FL.DEu@netcom.com> <3sgc0j$o4p@acmex.gatech.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:01:39 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom6.netcom.com
Staying Alive (gt0938b@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: what does a 2 bit grey scale display look like?
: I'm cosidering installing NS on a portable and
: want to know what it will look like? Will it
: be comparable to the grey scale display on nextcubes
: with monochrome displays?
: --
: Staying Alive
2bit greyscale looks real close to a mono station. I think there are 4
levels of shading. It isn't much fun, but even worse is the lame
resolution you get w/o a graphics card. Mine is on order.
ericd
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sb6fb@rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois)
Subject: Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI
Message-ID: <DAvGn3.7s0@rivm.nl>
Sender: news@rivm.nl
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene, Bilthoven, NL
References: <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 07:25:51 GMT
In article <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de> mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
(Michael Maximilian Goedel) writes:
> In article <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> "David Wetzel"
<Dave@turbocat.snafu.de>
> writes:
.. stuff deleted ...
> > Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
> Tell us more about 'the why it doesn't work or what is going wrong' .
Where did you get this driver? I am waiting for it for about half a year
now. The NeXTanswers doc# 1754 still mentions it as "future" (Q2 of
1995) and the drivers itself (doc# 1753) is not available.
--
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Risk Assessment Division | e-mail: F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Is this a bug in the SoundKit?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 15:00:20 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sn044$7al@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Here are my DSP blues...On NeXT hardware using NS 3.2....
I'm trying to record off of the DSP. Currently I'm using the snd functions
SNDAlloc et. al. to get this done, if someone has a better/easier way, please
let me know.
The problem in part is, always, partly my ignorance. The other confusing
part is that what gets recorded is reported back as being not what I asked
to get recorded!!! Is this a SoundKit bug?
For example, if I want to record at 5 seconds at 22khz at 16bit DSP format,
what gets saved as reported by WM.app is 2.5 seconds at 22kyz at 8bit DSP!?!?
I know I'm supposed to convert the file from 16bitDSP format to 16linear, but
sndconvert doesn't want to recognize the 8bit DSP format.
At any rate, what I want to do is record and be able to save and use data
from the DSP port. PLEASE HELP!
This is a NextDeveloper example soundrecord.c file with my modification
commented out. Why does this modification not produce a sound I can use.
How can I get this converted into something useful.
Thank you very much for any/all help. I'm really in a bind...
Here is the file:
/*
* recordfiletest - use the sound library to record directly to a file.
* This example records from the codec microphone, but note that using
* SNDStartRecordingFile() is especially useful for high sample rate
* recording from the DSP. Also note that when recording from the DSP, the
* dataFormat of the resulting soundfile must be changed to a playable format
* (like SND_FORMAT_LINEAR_16) before it can be played back.
*
* The use of SNDAlloc() causes virtual memory to be allocated, but since
* samples are written directly to a file, this VM is never touched.
*/
#import <sound/sound.h>
#import <stdio.h>
#define SECONDS 5.0
main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
int err;
SNDSoundStruct *s;
if (argc != 2) {
printf("usage : recordfiletest file\n");
exit(1);
}
err = SNDAlloc(&s,SECONDS*SND_RATE_CODEC, SND_FORMAT_MULAW_8,
SND_RATE_CODEC,1,0); THIS WORKS
/*
err = SNDAlloc(&s,SECONDS*SND_RATE_LOW, SND_FORMAT_DSP_DATA_16,
SND_RATE_LOW,1,0);
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
I think you can see what I want to do here. This seemingly works,
but it records for only half of the time it is supposed to, namely,
2.5 seconds instead of 5 at a rate that is half of what it is supposed
to be, namely, SND_FORMAT_DSP_DATA_8 instead of SND_FORMAT_DSP_DATA_16.
What is going on here? Is it a bug in the SoundKit?
*/
if (err) fprintf(stderr,"recordfiletest : cannot allocate buffer\n");
printf("recording...\n");
err = SNDStartRecordingFile(argv[1],s,1,1,0,0,0);
if (err) fprintf(stderr,"recordfiletest : cannot start recording\n");
SNDWait(0);
SNDFree(s);
exit(0);
}
Later, John
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Need IBM .TIF -> NeXT TIFF conv. util.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Date: 28 Jun 1995 12:09:34 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3srgpu$rr3@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3sp0rc$kdg@mustang.alleg.edu>
ANI (guptaa@alleg.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know of how to convert IBM .TIF format to NeXT native TIFF format?
: Opening IBM .TIF files in NEXTSTEP causes the images to come up losing much
: information. These are images saved in Adobe Photoshop for windows. Is there a
: utility to convert pdf files to NeXT native TIFF?
Well, it depends on the NeXT side a little which TIFF reader program
you use. THere are: Preview, OmniImage(Filter), ImageViewer, TiffanyII
(commercial), IconBuilder and a couple more. So my first suggestion is
to experiment a little a bit. For example, when I want to edit with
IconBuilder a picture produced with PaintShop Pro, I always first
load and save it with OmniImage.
Success,
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: Manuel Veloso <veloso@RT66.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PB 520 to NeXTStation for printing.
Date: 28 Jun 1995 14:29:26 GMT
Organization: Ibex Productions
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3srp06$nl6@mack.rt66.com>
References: <vfr750DAt3A1.Cxs@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <vfr750DAt3A1.Cxs@netcom.com> Will Hartung, vfr750@netcom.com
writes:
>I'm just wondering what the hot tip on connecting up a PB 520c to my
>slab from 3.2 is so that I can take advantage of my printer.
>
>Sneaker Net seems to work okay so far, but Postscript files get pretty
>big, pretty fast...so my sneaker may be too small.
>
>Hints and tips appreciated.
>
If both boxes are on EtherNet, you can run some kind of tcp/ip
print spooler which prints to unix printers. I'm not sure what
it's called anymore, but it should be in umich in the comm
directory.
From: urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:07:45 GMT
Organization: LITNET
Message-ID: <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu>
Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
: > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
: > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
: where?
You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of
NutNews, which is multi-threaded, and MIME capable.
Peter.
From: urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra fetch speed
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:10:51 GMT
Organization: LITNET
Message-ID: <3ssggr$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
References: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com>
yackd@xmission.com wrote:
: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote:
: > [...] With Alexandra [...] when I
: > change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch those articles
: > even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd.
: It fetches titles for all the previously read articles still on the
: server as well as the unread ones. I wish this fetch could be
: delayed--ie, just fetch the unread titles. If I then move the
: pop-up to show *all* headers, it will fetch the rest of them. Or
: even cache the headers it has fetched in a local area (it already
: has ~/Library/Alexandra), so it doesn't have to re-fetch them
: again and then expire the cache entries after an appropriate
: amount of time. Of course, local caching should be a preference.
: It should aloow allow articles to be cached for a user settable
: time (while in that group at least so that you can quickly return
: to the article, but perhaps for the whole session, or on disk
: between sessions). Some caching options would really allow
: Alexandra to *fly*. Well, it isn't even at 1.0 yet, and source is
: available, so...
Yup, that's one of the many things I thought of while developing NutNews.app.
And it does all of the above. Fetching only unread titles, demand
fetching of read articles, and caching of articles between sessions.
Let me know what you think of it's MIME capabilities.
Peter.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DHCP / RAS for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1995Jun28.120757.12375@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: Gene Zimmerman <ezimmerm@uwyo.edu>
Date: 28 Jun 95 12:07:57 MDT
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Salutations!
I've got a user who owns a NeXT machine and wants to connect to our
soon to be on line Microsoft RAS server. We're going to use DHCP for the
IP numbers, I understand that you can PPP into a RAS server, so that's
covered, but I need to find DHCP client software for the NeXT also.
Any suggestions?
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
Assistant User Consultant, University of Wyoming
From: rtimlin@carr11.alleg.edu (Robert Timlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: X under NeXTStep (i486)
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:09:07 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3ssgdj$akr@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hello,
I've been scurrying around ftp and web sites looking for a version of
X to run under NeXTStep on my 486. MouseX seems to be my best bet, but, as
far as I can tell, the binaries that exist are for m68k machines only. Has
this thing ever been compiled for the Intel architecture? I found the
source patches for compiling from scratch with the MIT X distribution, but
again, does anybody know if these would work on a 486?
My other option is just to put Linux on the beast and use X under
that, but it seems a waste to have two separate unix trees on the same
machine.
Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond by
e-mail, because my site seems about a week behind the rest of the world.
Thanks again,
-Robb Timlin
rtimlin@alleg.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Save Your Computer!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: You Have New Mail?
Message-ID: <DAwFsK.Dyv@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3spre4$mje@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:05:08 GMT
In article <3spre4$mje@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
> Can anyone please tell me where to find the sound file
> "You have new mail"? It had the same voice of the nice
> English lady that tells you the printer is out of paper.
>
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I think it can be found on the NOVA-CDROM from Walnut Creek
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Line In on a SB16-> Does it work? (nth request)
Date: 28 Jun 1995 19:02:22 GMT
Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada
Message-ID: <3ss8vu$5q1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
How do you get this to work? It's a minor inconvenience, but it would be nice
to listen to CD's through my speakers without using splitters. It works fine in
DOS of all things, and NeXT Answers seems to claim that it works. Any and
all info appreciated!....Philip
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven , {Where sheep may safely graze...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu, {NeXT Mail Preferred}
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gabe@netcom.com (gabe@netcom.com)
Subject: NS 3 Mach64 driver freezes system
Message-ID: <gabeDAx3xG.6Kq@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:46:28 GMT
Sender: gabe@netcom9.netcom.com
Hello.
I've installed NS 3 on my 486/66 with 2 meg ATI Pro Turbo (Win Turbo actually
seeing that it's an OEM 2 meg upgradable). I installed it on a 4 gig
Quantum (1 gig partition). I have an AHA-2940W. AFter installing the video
driver from ftp.next.com in
/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Released.
However, the second the hi res blue screen pops up, everything freezes,
and I don't even get the login screen.
Has anyone ever had any problems with this setup? Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.
BTW, I tried this card on another pentium 100 also with a 2940W controller
and it worked just fine (same driver).
Thanks,
Gabe
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI
Date: 29 Jun 1995 06:54:54 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3stinu$eda@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Francois Bourgeois (sb6fb@rivm.nl) wrote:
: In article <DAsxL6.BJC@muaddib.m.isar.de> mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
: (Michael Maximilian Goedel) writes:
: > In article <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> "David Wetzel"
: <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de>
: > writes:
: .. stuff deleted ...
: > > Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
: > Tell us more about 'the why it doesn't work or what is going wrong' .
: Where did you get this driver? I am waiting for it for about half a year
: now. The NeXTanswers doc# 1754 still mentions it as "future" (Q2 of
: 1995) and the drivers itself (doc# 1753) is not available.
The driver is not an official NeXT-version. If you had read news two months
ago, you wouldn't have missed the post by a Symbios (formerly known as NCR)
engineer, who offered to send off the beta driver to everyone interested.
Take a look here:
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/system/intel/SYM53c8.1.00.I.b.tar.gz
Axel
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Documentation for WriteNow searched!
Message-ID: <1995Jun28.152710.45067@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 28 Jun 95 15:27:10 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
I'm searching for a documentation for WriteNow for the NeXT!
I'm using WriteNow for a long time now, and most of it's tools
and possibilities are pretty clear, but I'm still searching to
find out more about it (e.g. Mail merge and stuff like this). I
have the free version that was shipped with 2.1 (Perhaps there
has been some documentation, but if so, it was lost during several
updates -- now running 3.3). So if you know where to get some
docu about it (preferred on the net as a PS-file or so), help me
out!
Thanx
************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
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From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DOS disk weirdness
Date: 29 Jun 1995 10:47:57 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3su0ct$5ih@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I don't have a printer attached to my HP, so when I need to print
something, I save it through the print panel onto a DOS floppy, stick it in
the nearest PC, and type "copy printme.ps lpt1"
Works fine, but after doing this two or three times on one disk, I can't
use the disk anymore. The Workspace says nothing, but I can get this (from
TeXview):
"dvips: Problems with file writing; probably disk full."
But that's just not true! There's lots of space.
I need to reformat the disk if I want to use it again!!
Is this strange, or what?
Dave
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need perl already compiled
Date: 29 Jun 1995 13:53:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3sub86$gpp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi, I need a copy of the perl program already compiled for both NS3.2
for black hardware and NS3.3 for Intel. I also need the man pages
and such which go with it. Does anyone know where I can get this or
could someone mail it to me??
Thanks,
P.S. Please e-mail all responses...
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From: Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compressed file system
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:05:24 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3suj04$cfi@news.next.com>
References: <3sc5m4$6l9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3sc5m4$6l9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes:
> NeXT clearly considers file compression worth it otherwise we wouldn't
> be running with compressed swap files. The problem is, NeXT chose to
> implement it as a unique facility for a paticular file rather than a
> generic compressed file system in which the swap file just happens to
> live. With a little generalization, those who wanted such could have
> added their own compressed file spaces as they saw fit. (E.g. for
> archives, seldom used documentation, etc.)
>
> - Christopher "I know, it's never that simple"
This is not true. Swapfile compression is a performance optimization, not
a space one. Timewise, it's faster to read and write less compressed data
than it is to read and write more uncompressed data.
Besides which, I just saw a 3GB SCSI II drive advertised at NCA for $665.
That should be cheap enough for anybody. If it's not, just wait a few
more months.
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From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: GhostView on PC protests on ps-file from NEXTSTEP!
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:27:35 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Message-ID: <3suk9n$7i4@due.uninett.no>
Is this a common problem? Does my NS-ps file require som editing before
GhostView will accept it, or can it be a wrong option or a missing
file in my GhostView installation. I have GhostView and GhostScript running
under MS Windows. GhostView calls GhostScript when I open a file.
PS! I managed to print the example files that came with GhostScript on our
color ink printer.
DS!
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Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:01:41 GMT
From: Britestar (Britestar, Inc.)
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From: gt0938b@prism.gatech.edu (Staying Alive)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NextStep with SMP?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 14:16:20 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt0938b@prism.gatech.edu
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References: <gabeDAx3xG.6Kq@netcom.com>
When or will NextStep ever support multiple processors?
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From: Dennis I. Gould <DIG@Gould.COM>
Subject: Re: NCR (SymbiusLogic) 53c810 PCI SCSI
Message-ID: <DAwIy1.KJ1@gould.com>
Sender: dig@gould.com (Dennis I. Gould)
Organization: The Gould Group Companies
References: <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:13:13 GMT
In article <37730388@turbocat.snafu.de> "David Wetzel" <Dave@turbocat.snafu.de> writes:
> Hi!
>
> My NEXTSTEP/intel does not work with my DAT (HP 35480A).
> The drive recognized during boot, but I cannot use it.
>
> The same hardware configuration worked fine under NetBSD/i386.
>
> Is there a bug in the Symbios Logic Driver (v3.0.0)?
> _ _
> _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
> (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
> _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
> (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de
We use the HP DAT to backup on black quite successfully with SafetyNet,app. Call Brian
Cuthie at Systemix Software, Inc. +1-410/290-8813. He probably has the answer.
Dennis I. Gould
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From: Gary Longsine <glongsi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup with rdist
Date: 28 Jun 1995 00:27:21 GMT
Organization: USWest SA news server
Message-ID: <3sq7l9$n5i@sanews.uswc.uswest.com>
References: <3sakmh$q4e@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
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To: jdevlin@umich.edu
The most common cause of a "permission denied" message when setting up rdist
jobs is a lack of an appropriate entry in the user's ".rhosts" file.
rdist and rcp are part of the "r" utilities, where "r" stands for remote. They
all require .rhost files.
In your case, in the top level of the home directory of the user which owns the
rdist job, you'll make a file called ".rhosts" and in that file you'll have one
entry:
myhostname myusername
I know it seems kind of silly to have to do this when your on the same machine,
but it's likely the source of your trouble.
/gary longsine
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote:
>I would like to use rdist to back up certain directories onto a second
>scsi hard drive mounted *locally*. Is this possible? I keep getting the
>message
>
> updating myhost
> Permission denied.
>
>rdist has so many nice features (incremental backup, extraneous files
>removed, notification by email, ...), I'm hoping I won't have to resort to
>ditto. Ideas?
>
>Thanks for your time and advice. My sample distfile follows.
>
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Need perl already compiled
Message-ID: <DAyApL.F0n@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3sub86$gpp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:10:33 GMT
In article <3sub86$gpp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John
Casamento) writes:
> Hi, I need a copy of the perl program already compiled for both NS3.2
> for black hardware and NS3.3 for Intel. I also need the man pages
> and such which go with it. Does anyone know where I can get this or
> could someone mail it to me??
>
> Thanks,
>
> P.S. Please e-mail all responses...
>
> --
> Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu
> Stop Senate Bill 314!! It threatens the very fabric of the INTERNETs
> existence. Please see http://www.phantom.com/~slowdog for details.
> #include <std_disclaimer.h>
A compiled version of perl lies on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
under ~/Unix/script/perl.4.036.NI.b.tar.gz
Nice greetings from Munich
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: su.computers.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reversing page printing order
Date: 29 Jun 1995 21:37:00 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sv6ds$fqk@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) wrote:
> Very simple question: I got a new printer (an old HP LaserJet
> II) for my NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system, and I'm using the demo
> versions of JetPilot or Dots to print to it. By default, both
> print pages in reverse order (last page to first page). Is there
> any way to change the configuration of the printer so that pages
> come out first page first by default (when printing from both
> the print panels and lpr)?
> (The LaserJet II prints pages face down, so you want them to
> print first to last.)
Try changing the contents of the PPD file for that printer type.
Copy the file from /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj (or
whatever language) to /LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj
(or whatever...). Might be a good idea to give it a slightly
different name. Then look in the PPD file for the line that
says "*DefaultOutputOrder:". From what I know, the valid values
for that option are "Normal" and "Reverse". Whichever one is in
your PPD file, change it to the other one. Then change the
printer type of the printer to match the name of the PPD file.
I've done this with a LaserWriter IIg at one point, and it seemed
to work fine.
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From: root@netra.pathcom.com (Admin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: testing
Date: 29 Jun 1995 00:29:55 -0000
Organization: Pathway Communications
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hello
From: root@netra.pathcom.com (Admin)
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Subject: testing
Date: 29 Jun 1995 00:36:09 -0000
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makeol;akdf
From: root@netra.pathcom.com (Admin)
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Subject: testing
Date: 29 Jun 1995 00:37:06 -0000
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Hello there again
From: root@netra.pathcom.com (Admin)
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Subject: testing
Date: 29 Jun 1995 19:41:23 -0000
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Testing.
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Date: 29 Jun 1995 19:54:41 -0000
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Testing
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From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: 3.0 AppleTalk on 3.2??
Message-ID: <vfr750DAynHK.K85@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 00:46:32 GMT
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I'm wondering if I can install the AppleTalk software off of the NS
3.0 disc onto a 3.2 system, and if it will work.
I'm pretty sure the topic has come up before, but I was wondering if
anyone has any notes on it that they can share.
Thanx!
--
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1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!"
1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 15:49:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote:
> Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
> : daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> : > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
> : where?
> You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of NutNews, which is
multi-threaded, and MIME capable. Peter.
I think the upload to ftp.cs.orst.edu was corrupt. I just downloaded the
software, and received the following errors attempting to de-archive it:
-------
mathlab41 > ls -l
total 221
85 -rw-r--r-- 1 rdieter wheel 86695 Jun 27 17:57 NutNews.I.tar.gz
136 -rw-r--r-- 1 rdieter wheel 131059 Jun 29 11:04 NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz
mathlab41 > gunzip NutNews.I.tar.gz
gunzip: NutNews.I.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
mathlab41 > gunzip NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz
gunzip: NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
mathlab41 > gunzip --version
gunzip 1.2.3 (24 Jun 93)
Compilation options:
SYSDIR STDC_HEADERS HAVE_UNISTD_H
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Compressed file system
Message-ID: <DAzCFG.LE@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <3suj04$cfi@news.next.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:45:15 GMT
In article <3suj04$cfi@news.next.com> Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM writes:
> In article <3sc5m4$6l9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
> Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes:
> > NeXT clearly considers file compression worth it otherwise we >
> This is not true. Swapfile compression is a performance
optimization, not
> a space one. Timewise, it's faster to read and write less compressed
data
> than it is to read and write more uncompressed data.
>
> Besides which, I just saw a 3GB SCSI II drive advertised at NCA for
$665.
> That should be cheap enough for anybody. If it's not, just wait a
Just be carefull...
The Problem with 3 GB drives ( really drives with more than 2 GB) is
the installation....
Partioning, disktab entries,... all the bad things of UNIX...
Maybe we might ask for clean support of drives/partitions > 2 GB?
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