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From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circonflexe) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 09:44:39 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Distribution: world Message-ID: <940623104439.1288AACUG.malc@jeeves> References: <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get the little > housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that goes over certain vowels in > French? I can get the double dots and the forward and backward slanty > lines over the vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C. > However, I can't get the housetop accent. > I guess you've tried Option-Shift-^ followed by the letter you want..? Works on English keyboards, and I'd assume it would on US, but... Pe^ut-e^tre...?! :-) Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MBONE for black hardware Date: 23 Jun 1994 10:05:09 GMT Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK. Message-ID: <2ubmol$8l2@mercury.dur.ac.uk> References: <2ua793$9k0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Charles Winthrop Clark (cwc@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has obtained and : used the MBONE sofware for multicasting on black hardware. I think that you'll have a long wait before you ever see MBONE on black; in order for that to occur, the kernel needs to be modified, and since NeXT doesn't have its kernel in the public domain (I think you can buy the source if you spend a LOT of money) you won't see anyone in a hurry to develop it either. Your best bet is if 3.3 is bsd 4.4, where I think that MBONE is in the kernel; if not, it can probably be added/modified to at least accept multicasting clients if not running the router itself. It's sad, really, but there ya go. -- GAT d-- -p+ c++++ !l u++ e+++@ m++(*) s+/+@ n+ h-- f+@(?) g+ w+++ t++ r- y**(+) EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk WWW: http://shrug.org/~scott/ Drink Coca Cola (tm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Message-ID: <9406231020.AA00503@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 12:16:00 +0200 Subject: NeXTStep-sounds and graphics on PCI bus Hi. I really need: 1. Any information about sound service thru PCI bus. 2. Are there any drivers usefull for graphics on: a) standard Hewlett-Packard Vectra XP/60 PC card; b) PCI bus 64-bit MGA Ultima Plus card made by Matrox (HP Vectra XU standard configuration). Thanks a lot. Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Message-ID: <9406231100.AA00569@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 12:56:40 +0200 Subject: NeXTStep- 32-bit Ethernet card Hi. Is there any 32-bit Ethernet card working on PCI bus on the market? Any directions to the companies selling it will be greatly appreciated. Best regards Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower? Message-ID: <Cru2pL.8HI@ilink.de> Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin References: <1994Jun17.133303.29172@galois.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 04:48:56 GMT In article <1994Jun17.133303.29172@galois.mit.edu> mjh@kronecker.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) writes: > > There was a lot of discussion about this when 3.0 came out. > One thing which seemed to improve performance was to boot with > 128 or so buffers. You can do this with the boot command > This doesn't work for 3.2 anymore. I don't think that the GUI itself got so much slower. It's usually a badly written app that makes thinks come to a grinding halt. For example Workspace: The grayed out file names after copying: It always takes 10!!! seconds before you can access a newly copied file. (10 seconds is an eternity in terms of GUI responsiveness) WHy isnt there a default for this timeout ? The Browser update after you renamed a file: If you've many Browsers open, working becomes nearly impossible. Why is there a need to update viewers that are miniaturized ? And why can't this be done in a low priority thread ? Time it takes until the Workspace sees a newly created file: If you create a new file from a shell or by a compile it takes 5 seconds or longer until the file appears in the Browser. Why can't the WorkspaceManager, when made key or when the key window changed, simply look into the actual directory first to see if something changed ? This would only take a stat on the directory and a comparison of the change times. A matter of milliseconds if not less. And the time it occasionally takes until the Workspace Manager recognizes that you want to drag a file ... NFS timeouts if a server doesn't respond (never klick into a /Net directory when the machine is down) and no way to abort this... There are more important things for the engineers at NeXT to do but a zippier Workspace would save everybody (even themselves) so much time that it might be worth it. BTW: What happened to WARP ?
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame announces FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP Date: 23 Jun 1994 13:40:30 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uc3ce$hf7@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jun22.113301.23440@um.erisoft.se> In article <1994Jun22.113301.23440@um.erisoft.se> Kjell.Borg@um.erisoft.se (Kjell Borg) writes: > > >FRAME TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FRAMEMAKER 3 ON NEXTSTEP FOR > >INTEL They are porting Frame 3 FIRST because the code is there and ready to go...as far as I know, Frame isn't that far along with Frame 4 for NeXTSTEP to even make a product announcement...It'll come - it's not something they'll just throw together. Dave
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower? Date: 23 Jun 1994 14:03:39 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uc4nr$4n5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <Cru2pL.8HI@ilink.de> In article <Cru2pL.8HI@ilink.de> eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) writes: > For example Workspace: > > The grayed out file names after copying: It always takes 10!!! seconds > before you can access a newly copied file. (10 seconds is an eternity in > The Browser update after you renamed a file: If you've many Browsers open, > Time it takes until the Workspace sees a newly created file: If you create Not so. Try this, duplicate a file, if you just wait, it will take ten seconds, if you move out of the directory, and back in, or select another file, the file will be 'blacked in' instantly. It's using a 'lazy' method to update the browser. I have noticed that open/save panels don't always recognize that a directory has changed, but this seems to be app-specific. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circonflexe) Message-ID: <1994Jun23.133514.28032@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:35:14 GMT In article <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes: >Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get the little >housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that goes over certain vowels in D'OH! >French? I can get the double dots and the forward and backward slanty D'OH D'OH D'OH >lines over the vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C. D'OH!!!!! >However, I can't get the housetop accent. > >-- Todd Takken >takken@leland.stanford.edu 1) double dots == dieresis ... do an alt-u then type your vowel 2) housetop == circumflex ... do alt-shift-6 then type your vowel 3) left slanty (/) == acute ... do an alt-e then type your vowel 4) right slanty (\) == grave ... do an alt-i then type your vowel 5) little squiggle == cedilla ... do an alt-, then type c This is all assuming the NeXTUSA keyboard, and that you haven't remapped the keys. You can find the accents using preferences.app under the localization preferences (the 'little flags' ;-). - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk on cube... Date: 23 Jun 1994 10:18:13 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2uc5j5$o1@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver I'm interested in making my cube's hard disk resources available to a Mac Plus. I've heard that NeXTstep 3.0 includes AppleTalk support but that it's too buggy to be usable. I've also heard that there are commercial alternatives. Any information on the commercial alternatives would be greatly appreciated... Thanks, DR
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: starting shell from command line Date: 23 Jun 1994 15:20:39 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <2uc987$fu0@news.iastate.edu> References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com> <CrtLFv.Buv@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CrtLFv.Buv@cunews.carleton.ca>, Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> wrote: >Can anyone direct me to an Intel or FAT version of Stuart anywhere? I want to know too. Please tell me too. >: > Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash! >: good taste. >Correct. :-) Correct, but zsh is even better, IMHO. -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Edit.app opens in the background ? Message-ID: <8127@darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: 23 Jun 94 16:10:38 GMT Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de Organization: German National Research Centre for Information Technology Hi all, when I use Edit.app from a shell window, it opens its window behind the Terminal window, requiring a mouse click to make it the key window. Is there any way to make Edit.app come up in front ? A friendly dwrite, perhaps ? Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail] Smalltalker, NeXTstepper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen. "I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: Using Stuart, how to get current directory to appear on title bar. Message-ID: <Crv2or.139@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:46:03 GMT I am using Stuart 2.4 and an TRYING to get the current directory of the shell to show up in the title bar. Tried reading the manual on it, but am sorta lost. Can someone give me a clue? Thanks. -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WAV and AIFF Workspace inspectors available Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:33:44 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <940623193344.4324AACUF.malc@jeeves> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For anybody who's interested in "painlessly" accessing the gigabytes of PD sound samples in non-NEXTSTEP-native formats, I have developed Workspace Inspectors for WAV and AIFF files. Please mail me if you would like them to be NeXTMail-ed to you. I'll put them on an archive site eventually, along with the code for Categories of Sound that read these formats. I hope to develop the rest of the set eventually, but am a tad busy at the moment. [I'd also like a way of getting round a bug in NEXTSTEP which plays out some sound files at double-speed, but still reports them as playable: to get round this for now I have to internally convert all files to 16-bit linear 22kHz -- I hope this will suit PC-owners.] Note that the Inspectors come with no warranty, expressed or implied! Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk on cube... Date: 23 Jun 1994 20:05:59 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ucpv7$huh@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2uc5j5$o1@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> In article <2uc5j5$o1@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) writes: > I'm interested in making my cube's hard disk resources available to a > Mac Plus. I've heard that NeXTstep 3.0 includes AppleTalk support but > that it's too buggy to be usable. I've also heard that there are > commercial alternatives. Any information on the commercial > alternatives would be greatly appreciated... info@ipt.com, (805) 541-3000 products called uPrint, uShare and Partner+ -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Edit.app opens in the background ? Date: 23 Jun 1994 19:59:45 GMT Organization: welcome to nowhere... Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Jun23215945arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> References: <8127@darmstadt.gmd.de> In-reply-to: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de's message of 23 Jun 94 16:10:38 GMT Originator: ARKIN@nice In article <8127@darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes: > when I use Edit.app from a shell window, it opens its window behind the > Terminal window, requiring a mouse click to make it the key window. > Is there any way to make Edit.app come up in front ? > A friendly dwrite, perhaps ? well you could use the '-unhide' option of my open version, thus: `open -unhide someFile' will make Edit the application with the key window and then open someFile... christian
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Draw 3D Info needed! Date: 23 Jun 1994 21:11:58 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company Message-ID: <2uctqu$p6i@news1.svc.portal.com> Summary: Does anyone have any information about where to get the Draw 3D program Keywords: Draw 3D At NeXT EXPO, I saw a lot of machines running a program called Draw 3D. Does anyone know who makes it, or where I can get it? Brad Wright WrightSystems wwright@shell.portal.com
From: jmm@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 22:48:46 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is driving me batty. I fiddled with fonts for Emacs.app (19.23), trying to substitute in a different fixed-pitch font family for Courier for bold, italic, etc. Something about the spacing didn't work right, and I kept getting lots of garbage "droppings" (black specks and butchered characters) on my screen. So I rewrote the dwrites to their original values. I thought. But now I'm still getting black specks. I've tried several times to create what I think must be the right default set of dwrites, but I haven't succeeded...and each time requires killing then restarting Emacs.app to test. Would a nice Emacs.app user who has not changed any of the defaults be willing to email me the output from "dread -o Emacs" so I can see what I mangled? My only alternative, I think, is to ftp the entire distribution again and start from scratch, which is time and bandwidth intensive. Please, someone other than Carl Edman respond--he is already too patient and generous with his time. (And if you read this later than 12 noon on 6/24 I hope you can assume that some kind soul has already responded to me.) thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower? Message-ID: <1994Jun23.222013.8554@millennium.com> Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <Cru2pL.8HI@ilink.de> <2uc4nr$4n5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 22:20:13 GMT In article <2uc4nr$4n5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, pcu@umich.edu writes: > In article <Cru2pL.8HI@ilink.de> eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) writes: > > For example Workspace: > > > > The grayed out file names after copying: It always takes 10!!! seconds > > before you can access a newly copied file. (10 seconds is an eternity in > > > The Browser update after you renamed a file: If you've many Browsers open, > > > Time it takes until the Workspace sees a newly created file: If you create > > Not so. Try this, duplicate a file, if you just wait, it will take ten > seconds, if you move out of the directory, and back in, or select another > file, the file will be 'blacked in' instantly. It's using a 'lazy' > method to update the browser. It's actually not "lazy," but "smart" (or at least trying to be smart). The Workspace is careful not to update a browser if it thinks the user might be positioning the cursor over a file or something like that. It would be a Bad Thing(tm) for the Workspace to reorder items in a browser just before you double-clicked the file you wanted to open. __jayson
From: calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MOD Player for NeXTSTEP 3.2 (MAB) Date: 22 Jun 1994 03:40:50 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA Distribution: ontario Message-ID: <2u8bs2$j6n@nic.ott.hookup.net> Keywords: mod,player,intel Hi, I am wondering if anyone has a MODPlayer for NeXTSTEP Intel. I have a version of Motorola, before 3.1 was released, but it doesn't seem like the author recompiled it. If, you know where I can get the source or if you know of any mod players for intel. If, not, eh programmers, let's try and write one. ____________________________________ Richard Lacelle, Phoenix Systems Synectics, inc. 308-2255 St. Laurent Blvd, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1G 4K3 Phone (613) 733-0550 Fax (613) 733-2416 EMail: laceller@calderd.ott.hookup.net (NeXTMail preferred,MIME OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: How to print a TIFF file? Message-ID: <1994Jun23.174209.12121@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <CrrtDp.1CI@euler.hnv.icem.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:42:09 GMT In article <CrrtDp.1CI@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) writes: > In article <2u706b$n4k@news.delphi.com> sands8@news.delphi.com (SANDS8@DELPHI.COM) writes: > > I am interested in printing 300 dpi TIFF files > > on my NeXT. When I select the TIFF files the > > IconBuilder application is called up but when > > I use it to print they come out nasty. I've > > had some luck with Diagram 1.0 but I get 3 > > blank pages each time I print one page. does > > Anyone know of a nice, preferably command-line, > > way of printing out a 300 dpi TIFF file on > > the NeXT. I'm running 3.1 on a 25Mhz `Station. > > Cannot Preview.app display & print 300dpi tiffs? > It works for my tiffs but then I don't know about the dpi. > On what kind of device do you intend to print? > Juergen > --- > Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 > == What time do we live in when firing people gets called {right,down}sizing, > == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee? Our commercial application, Pixel Magician, correctly handles printing TIFF files ( and many other image formats ) with variable DPI values. You can also use Pixel Magician to "override" the printer's halftone screen by quantizing/dithering the TIFF image to black and white before printing. Eric Bloom Bacchus, Inc. eric@bacchus.com ( NeXTMail ) 310 820-9145 310 820-5930 ( fax )
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is NEXTTIME playback only? Date: 24 Jun 1994 02:06:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2udf39$98v@agate.berkeley.edu> Does the NEXTTIME package just released at the expo allow _creation_ of QickTime or NEXTTIME movies? Or is it playback only? I had to miss the expo, and am curious. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
From: sritchie@Eng.Sun.COM (Stuart Ritchie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is NEXTTIME playback only? Date: 24 Jun 1994 05:00:07 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <2udp8n$4m5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <2udf39$98v@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >Does the NEXTTIME package just released at the expo allow _creation_ >of QickTime or NEXTTIME movies? Or is it playback only? Playback only. BTW, it's NEXTIME (note the single T). >I had to miss the expo, and am curious. No big deal... though the HP's are cool. Stuart
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower? Date: 24 Jun 1994 05:01:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <2udpbn$fh0@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2uc4nr$4n5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> pcu@umich.edu writes | | Not so. Try this, duplicate a file, if you just wait, it will take ten | seconds, if you move out of the directory, and back in, or select | another file, the file will be 'blacked in' instantly. | Even simpler is to just click on the directory name to the left of the column you want to update. That forces Workspace to immediately reload the browser. --- Scott Roy Department of Computer Science Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: starting shell from command line Message-ID: <1994Jun23.133558.835@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <2u9tr1$s2l@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:35:58 GMT ~> In article <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) writes: ~> two OS's, the title bar of the window reflected the running ~> program's ~> ~> I really miss that alias. How can I get a new shell window ~> to start up from the command line? Also, how can I get a ~> window title to reflect It will depend some on your settings, but there are several options 1. open -a Terminal <fullpath to binary or shell script> title bar will be according to your default prefs in Terminal.app, same as if you'd double-clicked the shell script or Unix executable in the browser. 2. Save a window running that saved ".term" file with the open command. That will allow you to specify just about everything about the window. This method should allow you to also pass commandline arguments as I recall. .term files seem to be archived objects. with a private API. Not terribly difficult to puzzle out. There are several options that do NOT occur except through hacking the .term file, such as auto-miniaturize on launch. 3. as previously suggested, use Stuart.app as a terminal which has extended hot-keys for this job. ~> Also, I want to use tcsh... 1. DO put it in your /etc/shells 2. DO use .tcshrc, not .cshrc for your tcsh startup file allows you to retain csh configs in .cshrc, and put tcsh specific extended configs in your .tcshrc (requires a recent version of tcsh. as I recall) 3. DO put it in /usr/local/bin, and you MAY want a soft- or hard-link from /bin/tcsh->/usr/local/bin/tcsh or some programs won't find it, despite various config options, environmental variables and the like. 3. If you are administering your system, you may want to add .tcshrc to the prototypes below /private and change the default shell in /etc/nu.cf 4. Recently posted in a csn newsgroup... dwrite Terminal Shell /usr/local/bin/tcsh Suggested that it be done for root as well as non-root accounts, though you'll get some strange results using tcsh with ANSI prompts in single-user mode. (i.e you may end up with white-on-black screeen). Why isn't this dwrite handled by Terminal.app's preferences setting for shell??? 5. v6.04, when launched with the -l switch from another shell does not EXECUTE .tcshrc, but .tcshrc must be "source"d v6.01 and up seem to work well with NEXTSTE, and perhaps earlier versions as well. I'm not sure about other versions. Bruce Gingery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circumflex) (posting is not 7-bit clean!) Message-ID: <1994Jun23.140527.901@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 14:05:27 GMT In article <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: ~> Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get ~> the little housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that ~> goes over certain vowels in French? I can get the double ~> dots and the forward and backward slanty lines over the ~> vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C. ~> However, I can't get the housetop accent. ~> ~> -- Todd Takken ~> takken@leland.stanford.edu Circumflex: Alt-Shift-6 is a deadkey... Depending on the current Text state you might get an with Alt-t, also. Bruce Gingery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Rich Text Posting Re: Accented characters in NEXTSTEP encoding Message-ID: <1994Jun23.143738.972@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 14:37:38 GMT In article <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: ~> Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get ~> the little housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that ~> goes over certain vowels in French? I can get the double ~> dots and the forward and backward slanty lines over the ~> vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C. ~> However, I can't get the housetop accent. ~> ~> -- Todd Takken ~> takken@leland.stanford.edu Circumflex: Alt-Shift-6 is a deadkey... Depending on the current Text state you might get an with Alt-t, also. Other Accents... Alt-n, n Spanish Alt-h = Scandinavian ordfeminine Alt-shift-h = Scandinavian ordmasculin etc. OR, keep this handy in a text file for cut-and-paste ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~ A couple of the above are unkeyable, but are pastable. i.e., the Copyright symbol, when keyed, automatically invokes the symbol font in Rich Text, or gives you other glyphs when keyed in a non-RichText window( ). The equivalent to the above in Symbol font is ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~ For your reference, here's all the charcters available in NEXTSTEP standard encoding vector... available without re-encoding the fonts, which is an alternative that adds a couple. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Questions about LJ4siMX with NS 3.2 Message-ID: <CrvwJG.8G2@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 04:30:51 GMT I just installed an HP LaserJet 4 siMX (lifted that puppy all by myself, too, since it was after hours and nobody was around) and am trying to figure out a couple of - probably minor - details. 1) Where can I find something that explains what the "split" option is (one of the print panel choices.) I was hoping that it would be smart enough to print page 1 from the lower cassette and all subsequent pages of the job from the upper cassette. A bonus would be if that was user-configurable. Alas, when I chose "split" I got page 1 from the upper cassette and an enormous error panel that popped up and said that I was stupid, my software was stupid, and not to do that again. OK, so it didn't really say that. But it did say: "Your print request couldn't be printed [it was referring to page 2 et seq]. Make sure that its paper size and other options match the printer's configuration." I can print at will to either the upper or lower cassette just fine. What am I doing wrong? 2) The envelope feeder self-tests OK, but similar to the split problem in #1, I can't get NS to cause the feeder to select - things just appear to bounce around inside the printer as party electrons and after they get tired, it spits the print job out of the upper cassette instead. Anybody using a 4siMX with these features?
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: 24 Jun 1994 06:34:57 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <2uduqh$5md@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de In article <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>, <jmm@umich.edu> wrote: > >This is driving me batty. I fiddled with fonts for Emacs.app (19.23), trying >to substitute in a different fixed-pitch font family for Courier for bold, >italic, etc. Something about the spacing didn't work right, and I kept >getting lots of garbage "droppings" (black specks and butchered characters) on >my screen. So I rewrote the dwrites to their original values. I thought. >But now I'm still getting black specks. I've tried several times to create >what I think must be the right default set of dwrites, but I haven't >succeeded...and each time requires killing then restarting Emacs.app to test. > >Would a nice Emacs.app user who has not changed any of the defaults be willing >to email me the output from "dread -o Emacs" so I can see what I mangled? My >only alternative, I think, is to ftp the entire distribution again and start >from scratch, which is time and bandwidth intensive. > >Please, someone other than Carl Edman respond--he is already too patient and >generous with his time. (And if you read this later than 12 noon on 6/24 I >hope you can assume that some kind soul has already responded to me.) > >thanks! > Stop! This can be cured easily for ANY application. As dread, dremove and dwrite are designed to read STDIN you can do the following: ~> dread -o Gopher Gopher GopherHost otto Gopher GopherPort 70 Gopher TermApp 0 ~> dread -o Gopher > defaults.Gopher ~> dread -o Gopher | dremove ~> dread -o Gopher ~> dwrite < defaults.Gopher ~> dread -o Gopher Gopher GopherHost otto Gopher GopherPort 70 Gopher TermApp 0 ~> After 'dread -o some_application | dremove' you have no dwrite-defaults anymore, only the defaults of the application. I remember, there once was a bug in this and I couldn't get rid of some defaults. If I just could remember what was the workaround! SIGH. --andreas
From: root@doublon.unice.fr (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP and PPP for HP712 with NEXTSTEP Date: 24 Jun 1994 09:14:19 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <2ue85b$ode@taloa.unice.fr> Hello, Where may I find SLIP or PPP for HP712 which works under NEXTSTEP ? Thanks Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Magic links in Edit? Message-ID: <CrwJD3.DJC@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Summary: Edit automatically updates pictures in RTFD documents Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:43:50 GMT Hello all! If you drag&drop a picture into a RTFD document you can create a copy by holding down the <Alternate> key (or doing nothing) or create a link using the <Control> key. Unfortunately the copy doesn't seem to be a real copy: - drag&drop an image into an RTFD document - close the document - change the image file on disk using Icon (or something like that) - open the RTFD document again => the changed image shows up Is this a kind of "magic link" (found no docu)? What is the underlying mechanism? Is it a feature or a bug? What if I want to have a real copy? Many questions, Klaus...
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to purchase NeXTTime? Date: 24 Jun 1994 16:27:20 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uf1h8$do@eps.com> Where can I purchase NeXTTime? from NeXT? -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@mcnabb.com (Michael McNabb) Subject: Re: Voice mail software? Message-ID: <1994Jun23.212145.14638@mcnabb.com> Sender: michael@mcnabb.com References: <2u5sle$q44@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:21:45 GMT In article <2u5sle$q44@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes: > My brother-in-law is after voice-mail software for his soon-to-be > obtained Intel. Is there any such beast? He doesn't want just a > silent-answer type modem, he wants a full "For so-and-so, press 1" > type of electronic jungle. > > Assuming such a beast exists, what are the hardware requirements? > > Thanks! > > john > > -- > - > john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu "mix" from i.link should do the job. On Intel machines, you also have to get their DSP card. Distributed in the US by Alembic (info@alembic.com). Looked impressive at the Expo. Michael McNabb
From: jmm@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 17:56:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <940624105634.1117AABqN.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> References: <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> <2uduqh$5md@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) > Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? > > In article <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>, > <jmm@umich.edu> wrote: > > > >Would a nice Emacs.app user who has not changed any of the defaults be willing > >to email me the output from "dread -o Emacs" so I can see what I mangled? My > >only alternative, I think, is to ftp the entire distribution again and start > >from scratch, which is time and bandwidth intensive. > > Stop! This can be cured easily for ANY application. As dread, dremove > and dwrite are designed to read STDIN you can do the following: > ~> dread -o Gopher Gopher GopherHost otto Gopher GopherPort 70 Gopher TermApp 0 ~> dread -o Gopher > defaults.Gopher ~> dread -o Gopher | dremove ~> dread -o Gopher ~> dwrite < defaults.Gopher ~> dread -o Gopher Gopher GopherHost otto Gopher GopherPort 70 Gopher TermApp 0 ~> > > After 'dread -o some_application | dremove' you have no > dwrite-defaults anymore, only the defaults of the application. > Huh? As far as I can see, the above "script" copies the current defaults into a file, dremoves all current defaults, and then rewrites them from the file. That seems to replace the current preferences with the current preferences! What's the point? Just to be sure I wasn't missing something, I tried what Andreas recommended, and indeed ended up with precisely the preferences that I started with---which are not the ones I want! My problem is that I have lost track of the original preferences that Emacs.app was distributed with. I need to know what the originals were so I can restore them. As it happens, the free rider problem bit: no one sent me their dread -o Emacs before the deadline I suggested to cut off duplication. So I'm still left with screen display problems. Can we try again? Can someone who hasn't changed Emacs preferences with dwrite please do a "dread -o Emacs" and mail me the output? thanks! jm2
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is NEXTTIME playback only? Date: 24 Jun 1994 20:52:41 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <2ufh2p$1e9d@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> References: <2udf39$98v@agate.berkeley.edu> <2udp8n$4m5@engnews2.eng.sun.com> In article <2udp8n$4m5@engnews2.eng.sun.com>, Stuart Ritchie <sritchie@Eng.Sun.COM> wrote: >izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >>Does the NEXTTIME package just released at the expo allow _creation_ >>of QickTime or NEXTTIME movies? Or is it playback only? > >Playback only. BTW, it's NEXTIME (note the single T). > So... anybody have any code or specs that will allow us to create NEXTIME movies? john -- john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave Walls) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: command line encryptor Date: 24 Jun 1994 21:41:07 GMT Organization: Downtown Digital Sender: asdf Message-ID: <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> Is there a UNIX command line program on the net that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? Sort of like DOS Norton Utility Diskreet
From: Ingo Feulner <ifeulner@cube.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MOD Player for NeXTSTEP 3.2 (MAB) Date: 24 Jun 1994 08:17:00 GMT Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <2ue4ps$e8j@cubenx.cube.de> References: <2u8bs2$j6n@nic.ott.hookup.net> In article <2u8bs2$j6n@nic.ott.hookup.net> calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle) writes: > > Hi, > > I am wondering if anyone has a MODPlayer for NeXTSTEP Intel. I have a > version of Motorola, before 3.1 was released, but it doesn't seem like the > author recompiled it. If, you know where I can get the source or if you > know of any mod players for intel. Sorry, but there is no Intel version. And there will never be one. That's because ModPlayer's source contains some 68k assembly code... But perhaps we'll see an Intel version of Paula? Sincerely, Ingo.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: starting shell from command line Date: 24 Jun 1994 08:32:23 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ue267$2eu@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com> <CrtLFv.Buv@cunews.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >Alex Blakemore (alex@cs.umd.edu) wrote: >Can anyone direct me to an Intel or FAT version of Stuart anywhere? There isn't any. >: > Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash! >: good taste. >Correct. :-) Look at zsh and you'll change your opinion. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Old BackSpace modules---how? Date: 25 Jun 1994 00:26:48 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2uftk8$li4@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> I recently upgraded from NS 2.1 to 3.2, and had hoped to delete my copy of BackSpace.app, since it's now an `official' demo. But it appears that the new version understands only .BackO and .BackModule, and most of my nifty older views are View.o files. Is there any way I can use these with the new BackSpace, or do I have to keep the old one around as well? In particular, what is the relationship between the new and the old formats; if the View.o files don't work, can they be made to work by recompiling? You cannot raise money enough |================================================ to hire a man who is minding | Joshua Burton 401/435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu his own business. -- Thoreau |================================================
From: Kolyer (with a `K') Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: 24 Jun 1994 23:04:13 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ufopd$n47@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> In article <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> jmm@umich.edu writes: > > This is driving me batty. I fiddled with fonts for Emacs.app (19.23), trying > to substitute in a different fixed-pitch font family for Courier for bold, > italic, etc. Something about the spacing didn't work right, and I kept > getting lots of garbage "droppings" (black specks and butchered characters) on > my screen. So I rewrote the dwrites to their original values. I thought. > But now I'm still getting black specks. I've tried several times to create > what I think must be the right default set of dwrites, but I haven't > succeeded...and each time requires killing then restarting Emacs.app to test. > > Would a nice Emacs.app user who has not changed any of the defaults be willing > to email me the output from "dread -o Emacs" so I can see what I mangled? My > only alternative, I think, is to ftp the entire distribution again and start > from scratch, which is time and bandwidth intensive. If the defaults database gets corrupted, there'll be hell to pay. One solution is to reset the whole database. You can delete the file $HOME/.NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.L (and see what happens...). This happened to me when I tried writing a default value that was reallllllllly long (prob. > MAXPATHLEN). It totally hosed my app and confused the f_ck out of me! --JK _______________________________________________________________ jon.kolyer@mccaw.com | This space intentionally Paradigm Systems Corporation | left blank... NeXTmail is cool. My thoughts, opinions, and experiences are my own.
From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to purchase NeXTTime? Date: 25 Jun 1994 05:12:17 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ugebh$92v@News1.mcs.com> References: <2uf1h8$do@eps.com> Keywords: NeXTTime In article <2uf1h8$do@eps.com> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes: > Where can I purchase NeXTTime? from NeXT? > > -- > Steven Kornreich > Kornreich Communications > NeXTmail OK Steven, I just purchased a copy of the user and developer from NeXT and they said the had NeXTTime ready and wanted to know if I wanted to buy it. It was on sale for $79 and I said sure. Scott -- Scott Stark Stark International Software 4950 N. Marine Dr. #102 Chicago, IL 60640 starksm@genesis.mcs.com (NeXT mail accepted)
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: 25 Jun 1994 08:47:09 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <2ugqud$npq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <940623154846.207AABqH.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> <2uduqh$5md@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <940624105634.1117AABqN.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de In article <940624105634.1117AABqN.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>, <jmm@umich.edu> wrote: >> From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) >> Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? >> [script deleted] >> After 'dread -o some_application | dremove' you have no >> dwrite-defaults anymore, only the defaults of the application. >> > >Huh? As far as I can see, the above "script" copies the current defaults into >a file, dremoves all current defaults, and then rewrites them from >the file. Precisely -- yes. But, err, this was for demonstration! Could you please read above sentence once again? I intended to recommend you to - first save your current preferences for Emacs (not Gopher, of course) - second delete all the current preferences for Emacs - be happy - and JUST IN CASE, you'd change your mind and wanted to go back, I also enclosed the remedy. >That seems to replace the current preferences with the current preferences! >What's the point? Just to be sure I wasn't missing something, I tried what >Andreas recommended, and indeed ended up with precisely the preferences that I >started with---which are not the ones I want! You followed my instructions too close, of course, sorry for the misunderstanding. >My problem is that I have lost track of the original preferences that >Emacs.app was distributed with. I need to know what the originals were so I >can restore them. The originals were NONE, because before you installed Emacs there were NO DEFAULTS in the dxxx_database. >As it happens, the free rider problem bit: no one sent me their dread -o Emacs >before the deadline I suggested to cut off duplication. No empty mail arrived? >So I'm still left >with screen display problems. Can we try again? Can someone who hasn't >changed Emacs preferences with dwrite please do a "dread -o Emacs" and mail me >the output? Hmmm. > >thanks! You're welcome! --andreas
From: dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Problem Date: 25 Jun 1994 10:14:33 GMT Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Message-ID: <2uh029$m3@mailer.fsu.edu> My Newsgrazer apps on my NeXTcube at work and my NeXTstation at home have both started to work for a while and then the disk mouse icon appears and endlessly spins. Anyone know how to fix this? Do I have a bad copy of NG? The strange thing is that it happens on two different machines each of which use a different news server, and one uses nntp ,the other uses flat files but both have the same problem. Any help you be greatly appreciated,(I miss NewsGrazer) Steve Dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: aharriso@satchmo.math.uno.edu (Adam J. Harrison) Subject: Postscript Mac->NeXT Message-ID: <1994Jun24.180153.7703@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:01:53 GMT I'm using my mac at home to write a TeX document. I've drawn an image using Adobe Illustrator and saved it of course as an eps file. Or have I? When I try to use that file in a TeX document on my NeXT at work I can view the picture but the damn thing refuses to print. Does anyone know what's happening. Is there a difference in the postscript platforms? As a curiosity I can print the picture by itself just not as part of a TeX document. Adam Harrison
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE: NS on PA-RISC Date: 25 Jun 1994 06:19:58 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2ugiae$jr3@news.worldlink.com> Could someone explain the following particulars. I own NS/FIP (User & Developer). What is involved in getting the same for NS/PA-RISC? Do I have to buy NS/PA-RISC all over again or is there an upgrade? If so, what does it cost? Thanks in advance. Peace, James
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is NEXTTIME playback only? Date: 25 Jun 94 21:14:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jbn.772578873@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <2udf39$98v@agate.berkeley.edu> <2udp8n$4m5@engnews2.eng.sun.com> <2ufh2p$1e9d@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes: >So... anybody have any code or specs that will allow us to create >NEXTIME movies? Or QuickTime movies? -- No NeXTmail please
From: Sergey Kartaev <kartaev@glas.apc.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 25 Jun 94 15:47 GMT+0400 Subject: Answer for some qwestions!!! Message-ID: <36200001@glas> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> uWAVAEMYE gOSPODA!!! Uvazhaemye Gospoda!!! Ladies and Gentlemen!!! mY BUDEM wAM KRAJNE PRIZNATELXNY ESLI wY DATITE OTWETY NA WOPROSY PREDLAGAEMOJ wAM ANKETY. dANNAQ ANKETA PREDNAZNA^ENA DLQ IZU^ENIQ RYNKA PROGRAMMNOGO OBESPE^ENIQ I TENDENCIJ EGO RAZWITIQ W NA[EJ STRANE. rEZULXTATY PROWODIMOGO NAMI OPROSA MY RAZMESTIM W RAZLI^NYH KONFERENCIQH, W PERWU@ O^EREDX W glas.announce. w OSNOWNOJ SWOEJ MASSE WOPROSY ANKETY RAS^ITANY SKOREE NA POLXZOWATELEJ, ^EM NA PROGRAMMISTOW. nO MY BUDEM NE MENEE PRIZNATELXNY TEM PROGRAMMISTAM, KOTORYE NE SO^TUT ZA TRUD OTWETITX NA NIH. blagodarim ZA SODEJSTWIE W DELE STANOWLENIQ CIWILIZOWANNOGO RYNKA PROGRAMMNOGO OBESPE^ENIQ W NA[EJ STRANE. We are thanksful, if you'll give us answers for the next six questions. We are trying to learn demand on programmers products. Results of this quiz will be published on different conferences of GlasNet. At first of all, this questions are intended for users, but for programmers too. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. Your answers will be very useful in creation of new programs and systems. SOFTCOM Programmers Group. ============================================================= Qwestions. 1. w KAKOM NAPRAWLENII RABOTAET wA[A ORGANIZACIQ? 1. V kakom napravlenii rabotaet Vasha organizacija? 1. In what area does your firm (you) work? 2. kAKOGO KLASSA KOMPX@TERY wY ISPOLXZUETE? 2. Kakogo klassa komp'jutery Vy ispol'zuete? 2. What kind of computers do you use? 3. kAKOE PROGRAMMNOE OBESPE^ENIE wY ISPOLXZUETE I DLQ KAKIH CELEJ? 3. Kakoe programmnoe obespechenie Vy ispol'zuete i dlja kakikh celej? 3. What kind of programs do you use and for what purpose? 4. kAKIE IZ ISPOLXZUEMYH PROGRAMM NE UDOWLETWORQ@T PRED_QWLQEMYM wAMI TREBOWANIQM I W ^EM? 4. Kakie iz ispol'zuemykh programm ne udovletvorjajut pred"javljaemym Vami trebovanijam i v chem? 4. Which of them isn't enough for your needs? Why? 5. kAKOGO PROGRAMMNOGO OBESPE^ENIQ wAM NE HWATAET DLQ POLNOCENNOJ RABOTY? 5. Kakogo programmnogo obespechenija Vam ne khvataet dlja polnocennoj raboty? 5. What kind of programs do you need for complete work? 6. ~TO QWLQETSQ OSNOWNYMI KRITERIQMI PRI POKUPKI PROGRAMMNOGO PRODUKTA? 6. Chto javljaetsja osnovnymi kriterijami pri pokupki programmnogo produkta? 6. What is the main factor, when you're buying any programs? ============================================================= = Write your answers between strings in the file. = = Send it to E-Mail: KARTAEV@GLAS.APC.ORG = =============================================================
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: default dwrites for Emacs.app? Date: 24 Jun 1994 19:23:41 GMT Organization: University of Florida's College of Liberal Arts and Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ufbrt$907@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> References: <940624105634.1117AABqN.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> In article <940624105634.1117AABqN.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> jmm@umich.edu writes: > > My problem is that I have lost track of the original preferences that > Emacs.app was distributed with. I need to know what the originals > were so I can restore them. > > As it happens, the free rider problem bit: no one sent me their > dread -o Emacs before the deadline I suggested to cut off duplication. > So I'm still left with screen display problems. Can we try again? > Can someone who hasn't changed Emacs preferences with dwrite please > do a "dread -o Emacs" and mail me the output? I believe that if you do the first part you should be okay. That is with Emacs not running, type dread -o Emacs | dremove This, as you know, removes all the defaults. Then when you start Emacs up again, it will write the original defaults out since there aren't any there. I've done this with TeXview and other apps when things have gotten screwed up. BTW, the only defaults that I have are apeiron> dread -o Emacs Emacs "NXWindow Frame main" "250 183 486 517 " Emacs HideOnAutoLaunch YES Emacs NXFontPanelPreviewFrame "0 0 281 48" but I don't have a current version either. -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circonflexe) Message-ID: <1994Jun24.232336.1006@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <1994Jun23.133514.28032@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 23:23:36 GMT In article <1994Jun23.133514.28032@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > In article <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes: > >Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get the little > >housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that goes over certain vowels in > D'OH! > >French? I can get the double dots and the forward and backward slanty > D'OH D'OH D'OH > >lines over the vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C. > D'OH!!!!! > > 1) double dots == dieresis ... do an alt-u then type your vowel trema (in french) > 2) housetop == circumflex ... do alt-shift-6 then type your vowel accent circonflexe (in french) > 3) left slanty (/) == acute ... do an alt-e then type your vowel accent aigu (in french) > 4) right slanty (\) == grave ... do an alt-i then type your vowel accent grave (in french) > 5) little squiggle == cedilla ... do an alt-, then type c cedille (in french) Darcy, Jacques allright (Toubon in french, our minister of the culture) may will give you the Legion d Honneur for that you ve done !!!!!!!!! :-) Now that he s got an internet address (ministre@culture.fr) that only respond throught normal mail (and not email...). :-( PS : i don t work for the ministry of the culture and i know my english is not very good... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Getting QuickTime movies into NS Date: 26 Jun 1994 07:05:53 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2uj9ch$m12@umd5.umd.edu> Has anyone come up with a decent way to get QuickTime movies into a format that NEXTIME likes without having a Macintosh or a Mac file system? I would like to be able to download QuickTime movies from the various Mac ftp sites, unbinhex them, uncompress them, and play them. Opener seems to be perfectly capable of all of this; unfortunately, the format of the resource and data forks that it writes out seems to be different than what NS writes out when copying files from Mac filesystems to NS filesystems, so NEXTIME is incapable of using the resulting files. Anyone have any suggestions? Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andy@godel (Andrew Burday) Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circonflexe) Message-ID: <1994Jun26.183315.259@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1994Jun23.133514.28032@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <1994Jun24.232336.1006@precipice.fdn.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:33:15 GMT Sorry to horn in on this conversation, but I recently asked a related question which has gone unanwered... Can anybody tell me how to produce proper French text that will be readable by machines other than NeXTs and PC's running NS/I? I want to put some text on a gopher server running under NS 2.1, so just knowing the NeXT character vectors isn't much help. I need to produce text coded in ISO whatever-the-standard-is. Edit.app won't do that, so far as I can tell. Stuart only emulates a vt100, not a vt220, so forget about emacs. It must be possible to produce French text, on a NeXT (ouch! sorry about that rhyme), for public consumption. If anybody can give me any suggestions about how to do so, I'd be very appreciative. Andrew Burday andy@philo.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) Subject: 2D & 3D Visual Linear Programming App. Message-ID: <1994Jun26.180505.1232@dagobah.fdn.org> Keywords: visual, linear programming, 2D, 3D, maximization, minimization, functional Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.org Organization: Individual Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:05:05 GMT Hi Folks, I've written an application that allows to visually solve 2 and 3 variables (i.e. in 2D & 3D) linear programming problems. The application is far from having reached maturity, yet it already shows most functionnalities (i.e. it doesn't look very NS guideline compliant although, for example, it already features EPS copy&paste of the 2D & 3D graphics) It was developed as a tool to complement a University level course in "Quantitative Methods in Decision Making", but could also very well apply to any "Linear Algebra" class. For instance, some features would allow a teacher to visually create a problem and export the graphics into any WP package so as to design a quiz for students to be graded on the theory behind linear inequations systems... The sad thing is that this project has been left unused and compressed somewhere in my HD for over a year now... which is kinda stupid. I would like to do something out of this package; and in order to finish its implemetation (if no one else wants to do it), I need some motivation (since I have completed Quants more than two years ago ;-) If you feel concerned, please consider the following questions: - how much would you be willing to pay for the binary ? or do you feel that it should be shareware, or even freeware ? - in what context would you be using such an app. ? - is there anyone out there interested in the source code ? why ? I would be glad to discuss any suggestion, idea, etc... Note: of course, I wouldn't mind making some money out of it, be it from the source code, or from the binary. Hope this rings a bell somewhere. Yann. -- \ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) / / yann@dagobah.fdn.org Email/NeXTmail \ \ "grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines." /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: housetop accent (accent circonflexe) In-Reply-To: andy@godel's message of Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:33:15 GMT To: andy@godel (Andrew Burday) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun26163635@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Jun23.133514.28032@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <1994Jun24.232336.1006@precipice.fdn.org> <1994Jun26.183315.259@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 20:36:34 GMT In article <1994Jun26.183315.259@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> andy@godel (Andrew Burday) writes: Can anybody tell me how to produce proper French text that will be readable by machines other than NeXTs and PC's running NS/I? I want to put some text on a gopher server running under NS 2.1, so just knowing the NeXT character vectors isn't much help. I need to produce text coded in ISO whatever-the-standard-is. Edit.app won't do that, so far as I can tell. Stuart only emulates a vt100, not a vt220, so forget about emacs. Why forget about emacs ? The native version of Emacs for NeXTstep 4.0 (essentially GNU Emacs 19.22 + NS support on the same level as X support in the normal version) not only doesn't depend on Stuart or Terminal (though it will run under either), it also has a ISOLatin dwrite which allows you to transparently create, view and edit text which can be understood by most other computers in the world. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann) Subject: how to dwrite Papersize for WordPerfect Message-ID: <1994Jun26.203708.28831@lisa.franken.de> Sender: usenet@lisa.franken.de (usenetbenutzer) Organization: Kommunikationsnetz Franken e.V. Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 20:37:08 GMT How can I dwrite A4-Paperformat as default for WordPerfect? I tried things like dwrite WordPerfect PageLayout A4 oder dwrite WordPerfect PaperSize A4 but this doesn't work. Where can I get informations about defaults I can set in programs like this? Thanks Horshack -- Richard Lippmann Nur Beamte koennen wie... phone voice: +49+911+69.84.58 ... Beamte denken mail : horshack@lisa.franken.de (welcome NeXTmail!)
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting QuickTime movies into NS Date: 26 Jun 1994 23:05:48 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9406270102.AA07517@proxima.com> In article <2uj9ch$m12@umd5.umd.edu> you wrote: > Has anyone come up with a decent way to get QuickTime movies into a > format that NEXTIME likes without having a Macintosh or a Mac file system? Have you tried ARDI's HFS_Xfer? Might do the trick...I'll investigate it, and see if I can coax ProxGate into doing things in a way that the NeXT appreciates. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Where to buy NEXTSTEP ? Date: 27 Jun 1994 06:23:28 GMT Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET Message-ID: <2ulr91$4pj@hk.super.net> Hi, I would like to know the fax number of any mail order house (or NeXT, Inc.) where I could upgrade (from 2.1) or buy NEXTSTEP 3.2 for the black box from Hong Kong (S.E. Asia). Also, is NS 3.3 for Intel only ? Or it is also available on the slab ? Thanks very much. Edwin Tam edwintam@hk.super.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <Cs2CC2.C6@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:57:37 GMT In article <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave Walls) writes: > > Is there a UNIX command line program on the net > that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? > > Sort of like DOS Norton Utility Diskreet What about crypt? Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: wehmeier@cs.nyu.edu (Udo J. Wehmeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NX_Mosaic? Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:54:30 -0400 Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences Message-ID: <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu> Summary: is there a next mosaic app? Does anyone know if there is a Mosaic WWW App for NextStep (black)?????
From: scott@hotspur.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: starting shell from command line Date: 27 Jun 94 17:26:00 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Jun27172600@hotspur.gac.edu> References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com> <CrtLFv.Buv@cunews.carleton.ca> <2ue267$2eu@marsu.tynet.sub.org> In-reply-to: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org's message of 24 Jun 1994 08:32:23 +0100 In article <2ue267$2eu@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > >>Can anyone direct me to an Intel or FAT version of Stuart anywhere? >There isn't any. I _really_ try not to bang my own drum on news ... but, in this case, looks like I had better. There is indeed a FAT Stuart available. All you have to do is ask for it. [In fact, there's even an "obese" version available for HP. Again, you have merely to ask.] >>: > Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash! >>: good taste. >>Correct. :-) > >Look at zsh and you'll change your opinion. Hmm, I unfortunately have to dissent again. I've looked at zsh on a number of occasions, and unfortunately have never managed to convince myself to keep using it. I did manage to use rc for a couple months one time, but zsh was out of the way in under a week. Then again, I use Edit, too :-). Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <Just 'a driving my u-haul down the information superhighway>
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTIME and the SoundBlaster? Date: 28 Jun 1994 11:53:40 GMT Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2up304$of8@news1.digex.net> When I use NeXTIME w/ the SoundBlaster driver installed, my system locks up. Everything is fine without the driver. Any clues? - Scott
From: dcell@tudhope.com (Dan Ellison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NX_Mosaic? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 07:14:14 +0500 Organization: Tudhope Associates Inc. Distribution: World Message-ID: <dcell-280694071414@tudhope.tor.hookup.net> References: <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu> In article <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu>, wehmeier@cs.nyu.edu (Udo J. Wehmeier) wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a Mosaic WWW App for > NextStep (black)????? Please, let's not be prejudiced here. White is just as acceptable, thank you. Actually, anything released from now on should theoretically be FAT. You don't have anything against FAT, do you? -- Daniel C. Ellison Phone: 416-366-7100 Tudhope Associates Inc. Fax: 416-366-7711 International Graphic Design dcell@tudhope.com
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wordperfect? Date: 28 Jun 1994 13:30:34 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <2up8lq$rga@news.bu.edu> I'm curious if there is some sort of problem, or lingering bugs with the last release of WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP? I know that they're no longer adding new features at the moment, but it is still being sold and supported to some degree I suppose. Mostly I'm curious if there is anything dramatically "wrong" the the current release that would prevent someone from using it. It appears to be a fairly powerful, full-functioned word processor which includes the one major thing that I grip about with Pages, namely TOC and Index generation.
From: marketing@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wordperfect? Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:04:58 BST Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2upacv$4r3@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <2up8lq$rga@news.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In article <2up8lq$rga@news.bu.edu>, <bbry@bu.edu> writes: > I'm curious if there is some sort of problem, or lingering bugs with the > last release of WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP? I know that they're no longer > adding new features at the moment, but it is still being sold and supported > to some degree I suppose. Mostly I'm curious if there is anything > dramatically "wrong" the the current release that would prevent someone from > using it. It appears to be a fairly powerful, full-functioned word > processor which includes the one major thing that I grip about with Pages, > namely TOC and Index generation. I use it w/o any grief. But I'm not a power user. I'm using 1.0.2, i believe. Hope this helps, C.
From: marketing@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Info on NextTime? Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:06:00 BST Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2upafo$4r3@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - Anybody know where I can grab info on NEXTIME? Can't wait until NeXT puts up a WWW server or something to suppliment NextAnswers... Thanks, C.
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Info on Pages from Expo? Date: 28 Jun 1994 13:53:10 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2upa06$4nc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I understand that Pages had a big booth at Expo, complete with tutorials and information sessions. Can anyone tell me what they were saying about (1) The Designer Toolkit (the product that would allow one to create or modify a Design Model). When will it be out? How much will it cost? (Educational pricing?) (2) New Design Models. What can we expect in the near term (next 12-18 months)? Will there be a Design Model for academia? What will the Legal Design Model be like? (3) Pages 1.1 and/or 2.0. When will either be out? Will either have baseline support? Long document support (automatic generation of indices, table of contents, et cetera)? The recently licensed Mastersoft conversion technology? Other features? Any word on upgrade fees, including Edu upgrade fees? (4) Pages Remote Objects technology. What is it? When will it appear in a product release and what release would that be? Any help here would be much appreciated.
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wordperfect? Date: 28 Jun 1994 14:29:19 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2upc3v$bj5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2up8lq$rga@news.bu.edu> <2upacv$4r3@marble.britain.eu.net> The main problem with WordPerfect for the NeXT is its incompatibility with more recent versions of WP for DOS or Windows. There is no Tables functionality, and there is no equation editor. Interoperability has been one of NeXTSteps watchwords, and WP falls short on that dimension. I still use WP for the NeXT, and get along with it reasonably well. But with each new version of WP for DOS or Windows, the NeXT version falls further and further behind. I am still hoping that at some point, WP will change its mind and update its NeXT product. Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmiWeb Date: 28 Jun 94 16:53:12 Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: fj Message-ID: <ried.94Jun28165312@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys> References: <2up8lq$rga@news.bu.edu> <2upacv$4r3@marble.britain.eu.net> <2upc3v$bj5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm using OmniWeb 0.7. It is working well but have little problems with certain gif-images including in http-documents like the sattelie--waether-images from edingbourg mirrored at http://www.rus.uni-stuttgart.de. Does anybody use OmniWeb 0.7 without problems with inline gifs. Thanks stef
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower? Date: 28 Jun 1994 18:24:50 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uppti$31p@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2uc4nr$4n5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2udpbn$fh0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Scott Roy (hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : pcu@umich.edu writes : | : | Not so. Try this, duplicate a file, if you just wait, it will take ten : | seconds, if you move out of the directory, and back in, or select : | another file, the file will be 'blacked in' instantly. : | : Even simpler is to just click on the directory name to the left of the : column you want to update. That forces Workspace to immediately reload : the browser. For the keyboard-oriented amongst us, Command-U will update the browser as well, I believe. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, <- finger for PGP key | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP packages Date: 28 Jun 1994 18:00:46 +0200 Organization: Olorin, NeXT Development & System Administration, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uphfe$ieg@olorin.dark.sub.org> Hi, What SLIP packages for NeXTstep do exist ?!? It should work on black and white hardware and it's not important whether it's commercial or not... Thomas -- Without ice cream life and fame are meaningless. --- Thomas Fischer, thomas@olorin [.dark.sub.org/.cube.de] (+49) 7191 23217 voice,fax,data
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb & term Date: 28 Jun 1994 19:24:54 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <2upte6$s9l@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone has used OmniWeb succesfully with term. If so, could you let me know how you did it. Thanks all. joel
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTIME--Where can I get it from? Message-ID: <Jun.28.17.41.11.1994.13861@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 28 Jun 94 21:41:11 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, I called up NeXT today to try to order NeXTIME and there was nobody at home! Anyway, I want to get a copy of it (if I can at academic price-- or if some one at expo has extra copies I'd love to buy a copy, say for $50.00). Anyway, what is the proper channel to procure a copy??? Later, Thanks, John
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:28:31 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cs2CC2.C6@euler.hnv.icem.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Jun-94 Re: command line encryptor by Juergen Sell@euler.hnv.i > In article <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave Walls) writes > : > > > > Is there a UNIX command line program on the net > > that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? > > > > Sort of like DOS Norton Utility Diskreet > > What about crypt? Crypt is not very secure; it is based off of a single rotor encryption engine, similar to the German "Enigma" algorithm cracked by England during WW2. There's a program on the net called CBW (code breaker's workbench) that can decrypt this algorithm pretty well. However, you can get reasonable security through crypt if you tar and compress/gzip the files first and then crypt them. This makes CBW much harder to use. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX2e on NeXT? Done it? Date: 28 Jun 1994 13:19:52 GMT Organization: University of Florida's College of Liberal Arts and Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Hello, I am trying to decide if I should upgrade to LaTeX2e on my mono station running NS3.2. I think that I understand that the NeXTTeX distribution is specialized somehow and I don't want to break anything by putting 2e on. Has anyone had any experience with this? Should I do it or should I wait? -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything Message-ID: <Cs3p4n.C0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA References: <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:31:35 GMT In article <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > Are you sure you supplied enough swap space? Tailor gobbles up swap > space when used with large PS files. > Well no, I'm not sure ! I have the automatically set 16MB swap file. I have 48MB of RAM and a 1.75GB drive. Do you think I should set up more swap space ? And if yes, how ? Thanks Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 00:33:32 GMT Having had the chance to eval quite a bit of software on the Next platform, both PD and Commercial, I have found one program that stands above the rest, Soft PC. Do not get me wrong, I have used SoftPC under Mac OS, and it was slow but useable and on a Power PC, it was almost decent. But, the Next version was a dog. It took up to five to 10 minutes for dialog boxes to be drawn (I am not talking about launching, or scrolling large files, I mean a dialog box with 3 fields!!!!). It took up to 2 minutes to register a click on the mouse. Granted this is only a NextStation 16/600, but why is SoftPC such a dog. I tried to contact insignia at the tech support #, 3 times I called, selected next support from their voice mail menu, then the phone would ring a few times and I would get disconnected!!!! I thought it quite fitting that their support is as good as their program! Bottom, the 20 minute demo was a joke when you consider it takes 5 -10 minutes per dialog box. I can't test more than one function per launch. And after 40 minutes of sheer hell, why bother? How can't it be so terrible under Next OS? I was looking at purchasing it for our Nexts and for some other unix boxes, but with support and performance like that, forget it.
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NeXT? Done it? Date: 29 Jun 1994 06:17:39 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ur3m3$gqo@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> In article <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: > Hello, > I am trying to decide if I should upgrade to LaTeX2e on my mono > station running NS3.2. I think that I understand that the NeXTTeX > distribution is specialized somehow and I don't want to break anything by > putting 2e on. Has anyone had any experience with this? Should I do it > or should I wait? No particular problems. 2e is overlaid on the base distribution and can be set up to emulate the older formats (older tex files). It will work fine. Make sure you have a complete backup of your tex tree (just in case you need to go back). I've installed it on 3.0, but there won't be any tex differences with 3.2 Here's the testpage test: ------------------------- 432 [skye]:/tmp>latex testpage.tex This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.1a (testpage.tex LaTeX2e <1994/06/01> patch level 1 ***************************************************** * Type paper type in form of document class option, * e.g., `a4paper' or `letterpaper' (without the quotes). *************************************************** \papertype=letterpaper ***************************************************** * Do you want to produce two test pages for use with * a double sided printer? (y/n) *************************************************** \doublesided=n (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/article.cls Document Class: article 1994/06/02 v1.2s Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/size10.clo)) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/ifthen.sty) No auxiliary output files. No file testpage.aux. [1] ) Output written on testpage.dvi (1 page, 5900 bytes). Transcript written on testpage.log. And a regular tex file (showing 2.09 compatibility mode): ----------------------- 433 [skye]:/tmp>latex dqs This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.1a (dqs.tex LaTeX2e <1994/06/01> patch level 1 (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/latex209.def Entering LaTeX 2.09 compatibility mode. (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/tracefnt.sty) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/latexsym.sty)) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/article.cls Document Class: article 1994/06/02 v1.2s Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/size12.clo)) No file dqs.aux. (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/Ulasy.fd) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] (dqs.aux) ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on dqs.dvi (9 pages, 16580 bytes). Transcript written on dqs.log. -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Looking for a COTS or shareware Bug Tracker Message-ID: <Cs54Dp.2MB@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 03:58:37 GMT Does anyone know of a commercial or shareware package suitable for tracking bug reports during the development, testing and deployment of a software product? Ideally, it would have simple NEXTSTEP interface for entering and viewing bug reports, facilities for getting reports broken down by area, priority, status etc, extra credit if able to provide info in a form that can be easily plotted. I guess BugNext.app is half of what I'm looking for. I know it wouldn't be hard to build, but there must be something like this out there. somewhere. P.S. I'm aware of GNU's gnats, but am really interested in a NEXTSTEP app. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: mike@dannug.dk (Michael Zedeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: 28 Jun 1994 10:31:00 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uou54$13o@nexia.dk> References: <Cs2CC2.C6@euler.hnv.icem.de> In article <Cs2CC2.C6@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes: > In article <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave Walls) writes: > > > > Is there a UNIX command line program on the net > > that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? > > > > Sort of like DOS Norton Utility Diskreet > > What about crypt? PGP might be even better. But that crypt-algorithm is utterly unbreakable, thus taking some of the fun out of the game. The keys take up about 1K. Mike. -- Michael Zedeler, Roskilde University, Member of Danish NeXT U. G. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, 80x86. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: is anyone _still_ running black-only ns2.1? (was Re: NX_Mosaic?) Message-ID: <940628.232016.0J1.rusnews.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 23:20:16 -0600 References: <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu> <dcell-280694071414@tudhope.tor.hookup.net> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada dcell@tudhope.com (Dan Ellison) writes: > Actually, anything released from now on should theoretically be FAT. > You don't have anything against FAT, do you? I do, because my personal machine is running 2.1. there are others out there, but I'd bet we're easily in the minority (if only because of the number of NS/FIP copies already sold) -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Info on NextTime? Message-ID: <1994Jun28.145405.1901@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <2upafo$4r3@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:54:05 GMT marketing@learned.co.uk writes > > Hi - > > Anybody know where I can grab info on NEXTIME? > > Can't wait until NeXT puts up a WWW server or something to suppliment > NextAnswers... > Try http://stepwise.com -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: Hartmut Benz <benz@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NeXT? Done it? Date: 29 Jun 1994 11:00:10 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2urk7q$q1q@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <2ur3m3$gqo@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <2ur3m3$gqo@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca writes: > In article <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. > Kincaid) writes: > > Hello, > > I am trying to decide if I should upgrade to LaTeX2e on my mono > > station running NS3.2. I think that I understand that the NeXTTeX > > distribution is specialized somehow and I don't want to break anything by > > putting 2e on. Has anyone had any experience with this? Should I do it > > or should I wait? > > No particular problems. 2e is overlaid on the base distribution and > can be set up to emulate the older formats (older tex files). It will > work fine. Make sure you have a complete backup of your tex tree > (just in case you need to go back). > > I've installed it on 3.0, but there won't be any tex differences with 3.2 I've installed the new latex with 3.2 and experienced no problems at all. The only "catch" was that I had to explicitely ftp the postscript description files (*.fd) from a CTAN. They are no longer included in the package :-( Tsch"o'wa ,,, (o o) --------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------------- Hartmut Benz | benz@infko.uni-koblenz.de D-56076 Koblenz, Germany | (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: rollodex program Message-ID: <Cs46IH.9u6@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:47:05 GMT I am looking for a public domain rollodex program. Nothing fancy, just basic information and the ability to search and find an entry when needed. Please email responses. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon Aerospace Engineer United States Air Force salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: OmniWeb Message-ID: <Cs46xI.Cxx@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:56:05 GMT OK, I know this question has been asked before. I have an Intel machine that runs OmniWeb with all the images presented. However, I have a Motorola machine that does the same, except for the images. I know this has been addressed before, but I can't remember the solution. Request information. Please email responses. Thanks. Keith Salmon Aerospace Engineer United States Air Force salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ? Date: 29 Jun 1994 11:06:57 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2urkkh$oia@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mail.app exports a 'NeXTmail Message pasteboard type'. This is the way the 'Edit/Save Message' and 'Edit/Open Message' services work. The drawback of those both Edit services is that they only save RTF files. Has anybody yet tried to use this Pasteboard type with TickleServices ? One could build a rather nice 'filter' service e.g. to uudecode mail messages without the need to cut and paste. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e on NeXT? Done it? Date: 29 Jun 1994 12:14:35 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2urojb$18q@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> In article <2up81o$l76@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: > Hello, > I am trying to decide if I should upgrade to LaTeX2e on my mono > station running NS3.2. I think that I understand that the NeXTTeX > distribution is specialized somehow and I don't want to break anything by > putting 2e on. Has anyone had any experience with this? Should I do it > or should I wait? > > -- > Sincerely, > > charles d. kincaid > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' > Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group I just installed it. I created a LocalLibrary/TeX/tex folder with the same structure as the NextLibrary/TeX/tex folder and installed LaTeX2e in it. The advantage of this is that I can switch between 2e and 2.09 by simply changing the TeX environment variables (2e does not typeset all of the 2.09 files correctly in compatibility mode.). -- Andreas Obst Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics Virginia Tech obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Your advice would be greatly appreciated Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:14:10 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2urs32$akg@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Keywords: NS/FIP,Intel I want to buy a computer for my son, Greg, to take to college (Univ. of Indiana, Bloomington) this fall. He wants to major in business and finance. He is transferring from Tennessee Technological University, which is a good school, but it doesn't have a strong curriculum for students who are interested in business and finance. Greg will be a junior this year. I want to give Greg the opportunity to run both NeXTSTEP and DOS/Windows applications. Thus, an Intel box with NS/FIP and DOS/Windows installed in separate partitions on a hard disk would seem to be a logical choice. He is just learning how to use a computer, so I really don't want to buy him a machine that greatly exceeds his immediate needs (e.g., a Pentium machine). On the other hand, I don't want to buy him a piece of junk either. If he becomes enthusiastic about computing after giving it a try this academic year, I would be willing to buy him a better box next year. Thus, I have _tentatively_ decided that I should get him a "Pentium ready" 486DX2-66MHz machine from a company that is familiar with NS/FIP. I'm thinking that the machine should have a minimum of 16 MB of RAM, and a ~500 MB hard disk. I would like to get him a CD-ROM drive as well (to make it easier for him to install future versions of NeXTSTEP, to gain access to the wealth of information that is becoming available on CD-ROMs, to run NEXTIME, etc.). Finally, I'm sure he'll want to connect to Bitnet; therefore, I need to buy him an Ethernet card too, right? Now, some specific questions. What do you think of the tentative conclusions drawn above? What company should I deal with? What about a monitor for the machine? I would like to buy Greg a high-resolution, 17" color monitor if I can afford it. If I can't, what are the performance penalties (other than screen size) associated with a 14" or 15" color monitor? What vendors supply high quality color monitors at reasonable prices? What about a printer? Should I buy Greg an inexpensive laser printer, or do you think an inkjet printer would be good enough? What about a backup/mass storage device (e.g., a DAT drive)? Are there any other types of peripheral devices that I haven't mentioned that you think Greg might need or want? Also, what about software? Being a student, Greg can take advantage of academic discounts to procure software at very reasonable prices. Therefore, I'm going to let him buy his own software. However, I would like to provide him with some sound advice about what software to buy. At the moment, I'm strongly inclined to recommend the following "general purpose" applications: WriteUp, Mesa, Create, and Mathematica. What additional software would you recommend for a student like Greg? Thanks for taking the time to read this post. As the foregoing words indicate, I'm definitely clue impaired when it comes to purchasing/recommending computer hardware and software for a student majoring in business and finance. Therefore, any advice that you would be willing to impart would be greatly appreciated. Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeff@tiag.com (Jeffrey Adams) Subject: Re: NeXTIME--Where can I get it from? Message-ID: <Cs5v1s.Cpv@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <Jun.28.17.41.11.1994.13861@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:34:40 GMT > ... what is the proper channel to procure a copy? I called 1-800-TRY-NEXT, I was forwarded to a sales rep, and ordered NEXTTIME CD for $79 and they said it would arrive in two days by Federal Express. Jeff --------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Adams jeff@tiag.com Told in a Garden NeXTMail accepted Software Development ---------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Recent release of Periscope ? Message-ID: <1994Jun29.100530.9872@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 10:05:30 GMT I'm looking for a recent release of Periscope (a remote windowing access utility for Unix machines), mine is 2.0 (v01). Who knows an archive site ? I hope to find improvments like a "Preference" panel with settings (shell...) Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: 29 Jun 1994 09:58:02 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2urula$ct@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> In article <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com>, dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave Walls) writes: >Is there a UNIX command line program on the net >that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? PGP will do it. (the -c flag, I believe.) Jeff trestrail@ail.com
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend troubles Date: 29 Jun 1994 10:22:35 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <2us03b$7ar@shiva.UU.NET> Has anyone had trouble running the Fiend Dock Extender app? I got it to compile just fine, but when I run it, it runs for about 5 minutes and then the disk access icon starts twirling and that's it. It just twirls forever and does not really access the disk. Eventually it just exits. It looks like a really cool app, it just doesn't run for more than 5 minutes. I compiled it on a Black Turbo slab with NS 3.2... ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-Recorder Software ? Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:08:04 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <2us2okINNhql@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Does anybody know if there is a software writing CD on a NeXT with a SCSI CD-Recorder ? Can you write Red-Book (Audio) CDs ? CD-ROM ISO-9660 ? Since there are a lot of SoundApps it should not be a big deal to write a device-driver to write Soundfiles to CD ? mfg Winfried
From: shtmar04@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za (Mark Richard Shuttleworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: MDI - Multiple Document Interface onNextStep? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:46:10 GMT Organization: University of Cape Town Message-ID: <shtmar04.37.2E118932@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> Hiya, I've never seen NEXTSTEP, so I may be way out of my depth here. Does it have any sort of standard, de facto or official, to handle MDI approaches to document work? Or has it already gone past that, to a more document centered OLE or OpenDoc approach? Does this not apply to NEXT? Did MDI really evolve from MS? Thanks for any info! Cheers, Mark
From: shtmar04@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za (Mark Richard Shuttleworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Distributed Object Frameworks: Next OpenStep vs SOM vs OLE/COM Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:50:30 GMT Organization: University of Cape Town Message-ID: <shtmar04.38.2E118A36@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> Hiya, How does OpenStep's persistent distributedd object model compare with SOM, or COM as implemented by Microsoft and/or Digital. I understand that SOM is infinitely superior to COM, but how does Next's fit in to the industry? SOM, combined with Bento from Apple, will give birth to OpenDoc. Does Next have any big guns to shoot down that effort? What are the chances of getting SOM and OpenStep objects to talk to one another? Are they both CORBA based? It seems as if IBM has placed itself extremely well with SOM soon to be available on OS/2, Windows, AIX and even the mainfram OS's. Cheers, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <1994Jun29.144223.24573@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:42:23 GMT In article <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: >Do not get me wrong, I have used SoftPC under Mac OS, and it >was slow but useable and on a Power PC, it was almost decent. >But, the Next version was a dog. It took up to five to 10 minutes >for dialog boxes to be drawn (I am not talking about launching, >or scrolling large files, I mean a dialog box with 3 fields!!!!). > >It took up to 2 minutes to register a click on the mouse. Granted >this is only a NextStation 16/600, but why is SoftPC such a dog. > > >I tried to contact insignia at the tech support #, 3 times I called, >selected next support from their voice mail menu, then the phone would >ring a few times and I would get disconnected!!!! > >I thought it quite fitting that their support is as good as their program! 1) You've got the WindowServer sitting in the way. Depending on your OS, the Interceptor technology may or may not work (I don't know). Your SoftPC version definitely does matter. If you have an old version of SoftPC, forget it. 2) You're comparing an MPC/601/66 to an m68k/25? The 601 specs at 62/76 while the m68k specs at about 12/10. A five-fold increase in horsepower is significant, I think. And, if you've got the 80MHz, then you're even farther beyond the 68k. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <Cs61HH.EK@gurke.ping.de> Sender: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin) Organization: Legalize THC References: <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:53:40 GMT In article <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Jun-94 Re: command line > encryptor by Juergen Sell@euler.hnv.i > > In article <2ufjtj$dbc@vw-4.dtd.com> dwalls@rodent.dtd.com (Dave > Walls) writes > > : > > > > > > Is there a UNIX command line program on the net > > > that will encrypt and decrypt files with a key? > > > > > > Sort of like DOS Norton Utility Diskreet > > > > What about crypt? > > Crypt is not very secure; it is based off of a single rotor encryption > engine, similar to the German "Enigma" algorithm cracked by England > during WW2. Is was cracked by Allen Turing... Just a single rotor? You must be kidding. Breaking that is really easy!! Enigma was a 3-Rotor System with a initial permutation at the front and an involution at the end. That helped to improve safty a lot! Even the initial permutation improves the system -- but just if you don't know the permutation.. >There's a program on the net called CBW (code breaker's > workbench) that can decrypt this algorithm pretty well. > > However, you can get reasonable security through crypt if you tar and > compress/gzip the files first and then crypt them. This makes CBW much > harder to use. EVERY compression improves security of EVERY encryption algorithm! Greeting Constantin Szallies tini@gurke.ping.de
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Application Icon Question Date: 29 Jun 1994 12:19:25 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <24062912202119@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> Could anyone enlighten me on a puzzling behavior of NS? After installing Emacs.app, all the .tex icons were changed in all the accounts on my machine but mine. I edited all the users .NeXT/suffixes* files to make TeXview the app for .tex files but still this behavior persists. Emacs is installed in /LocalApps, and the only thing different about my setup is that I belong to two groups, other and wheel. Could someone tell me what determines the application claiming "ownership" of a file? Thankyou. Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,fj.sys.next Subject: Re: Distributed Object Frameworks: Next OpenStep vs SOM vs OLE/COM Date: 29 Jun 1994 17:37:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2usbgp$kht@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <shtmar04.38.2E118A36@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> In article <shtmar04.38.2E118A36@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> shtmar04@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za (Mark Richard Shuttleworth) writes: >Hiya, > >SOM, combined with Bento from Apple, will give birth to OpenDoc. Does Next ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this for real? Since when is Apple selling box lunches? :-) -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Question about djf driver Date: 29 Jun 1994 12:49:01 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <24062912500195@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> In looking for a printer, I'm reminded that the DeskJet printers are OK quality and quite inexpensive. The djf driver on the archives works with the DestJet 500, through a serial port. The new DeskJet 520 printer seems not to have a serial port, only a parallel port. Does anyone know if the djf driver will work with the DeskJet 520 (or, for that matter, with the 500 through the parallel port)? Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <Cs63FK.q4@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 16:35:44 GMT In article <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > However, you can get reasonable security through crypt > if you tar and compress/gzip the files first and then > crypt them. This makes CBW much harder to use. I have to wonder whether you are being serious about the matter, or just try to fool a niave user into doing something dangerous. The truth of the matter is that a .tar.Z.crypt file is significantly easier to crack that one that has not been tarred and/or compressed. crypt is nothing more than a privacy tool, and should not in anyway be considered "secure". There is nothing you can do with crypt that will make it more secure. (even if you use the undocumented -s option) The only advantage of crypt is it's widespread availability on many different platforms. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FORTRAN for NS/HP Date: 29 Jun 1994 17:52:13 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <2usccd$ana@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: fortran, NS, HP Hello, I have been in touch with people at NeXT, HP, and Absoft about the possibility of porting Fortran to the release of NEXTSTEP for the HP PA-RISC processor. To make a long story short, I was told that Absoft would do this port if they thought there was a large enough market. I know this sounds pretty obvious, but it took a while to even get that far. My impression of "large enough" is somewhere around 200 orders. I have no connection to any of these companies, except for currently having a NeXT computer and recently ordering a couple of HP 712/80 workstations, with the hope of running NS and Fortran on them. I am a federal employee working for the NIH. I don't know if this will help, but I'm willing to collect information that could be sent to NeXT and Absoft to help convince them to go through with this port. If you would like to be a part of this petition, please send me the following information: Name Address Phone Number E-mail Address Estimate of how many copies your group might purchase I know that last one is a tough one, especially since I have no idea what the price will be or when it might be available. But try to make a guess. Please send this information to me at the address below. Thanks, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Subject: Acrobat Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Cs68ws.1MBq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:34:04 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Any change of getting Acrobat for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep? It's a natural.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything Message-ID: <Cs5tvz.EH@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Cs3p4n.C0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:09:34 GMT In article <Cs3p4n.C0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: > In article <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org > (Markus Wenzel) writes: > > Are you sure you supplied enough swap space? Tailor gobbles up swap > > space when used with large PS files. > > > > Well no, I'm not sure ! I have the automatically set 16MB swap file. > I have 48MB of RAM and a 1.75GB drive. Do you think I should set up more > swap space ? And if yes, how ? Sounds good for starters. Is there enough space free on the disk? (gets displayed in the workspaceManager or by df in a Terminal window), Usually the swapfile just grows to the rquired size, so your 16MB is just a lowwater mark. However take a look at /etc/swaptab to check for a hiwater mark (hiwat=???). If it exists, it may be the culprit as it limits the swapfile from ever getting bigger but causes the system to hang. Remove the hiwater mark for experimental purposes. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: root@net23.com (Operator) Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.tv.max-headroom,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.infosystems.www Subject: Max Web Server Message-ID: <Cs6DLD.MKx@spcuna.spc.edu> Date: 29 Jun 94 20:15:12 GMT Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Explore http://www.net23.com with your favorite client. Razor -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 17:41:17 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8i4Sdxm00iV7I6giJm@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cs61HH.EK@gurke.ping.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Jun-94 Re: command line encryptor by Constantin Szallies@gurk > > Crypt is not very secure; it is based off of a single rotor encryption > > engine, similar to the German "Enigma" algorithm cracked by England > > during WW2. > Is was cracked by Allen Turing... Just a single rotor? You must be > kidding. Nope. I'll quote a little further from the CBW docs: To use CBW it is necessary to know a few facts about the underlying cipher system, in this case the Unix crypt program. The primary fact to know is that the job of deciphering a file can be broken down into several smaller jobs. The ciphertext being decoded can be divided into blocks of 256 characters, and each block can be decoded separately. Each block is encrypted using a relatively simple cipher system, but the key to this simple system changes at the end of each block. Effectively, each block is encrypted by a single rotor enigma system. The rotor has 256 positions to handle full eight-bit bytes, and this leads to the number of characters in each block. CBW represents the wiring for each block's rotor by a permutation matrix. Once several blocks are decoded (or mostly decoded), it becomes possible to determine how the key changes after each block. The key change is expressed as a permutation matrix called Zee. Typically one needs to solve four or five blocks (about 1000 characters), before it is possible to automatically compute Zee and solve the rest of the file. For short messages there is no need to compute Zee. >> However, you can get reasonable security through crypt if you tar and >> compress/gzip the files first and then crypt them. This makes CBW much >> harder to use. > > EVERY compression improves security of EVERY encryption algorithm! Yes. My point was that using compression is a good way to make crypt secure enough that it is reasonable to trust it (for low security needs, anyway). Compression removes much of the redundancy that decryption algorithms attempt to use to apply frequency heuristics to decrypt encoded information. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: 29 Jun 1994 22:28:49 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2ussj1$l3m@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <8i4Sdxm00iV7I6giJm@andrew.cmu.edu> >> > EVERY compression improves security of EVERY encryption algorithm! >> >> Yes. My point was that using compression is a good way to make crypt >> secure enough that it is reasonable to trust it (for low security needs, Be careful. Most compression schemes start the compressed stream with several known bytes which can be used for known-text attacks on the encryption. While the uncompressed file may have some known frequency characteristics, at least you don't know its' first few bytes as you do for a compressed stream. The fix for this would be to precede the compressed stream with some random bytes before encryption, assuming sufficient variability on the possible random number streams. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: PPP on NS 3.2 Black Message-ID: <Cs6BpJ.1Fy@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 19:34:29 GMT Can anyone tell me about a/the public domain PPP package for NS 3.2 Black? Does it exist? Where? How robust/usable? Are there commercial packages out there? Expensive? Preferable? -- personal opinions
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:39:25 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8i4TURu00iV786gVcw@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cs63FK.q4@trapac.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Jun-94 Re: command line encryptor by Karl Kraft@trapac.com > In article <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger > <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > > > However, you can get reasonable security through crypt > > if you tar and compress/gzip the files first and then > > crypt them. This makes CBW much harder to use. > > I have to wonder whether you are being serious about the matter, or > just try to fool a niave [sic] user into doing something dangerous. Wonder away. (To be blunt, I'm getting bored at the noise level of people making accusations ala the .advocacy group.) > The truth of the matter is that a .tar.Z.crypt file is significantly > easier to crack that one that has not been tarred and/or compressed. Wrong. Compressing (via Unix 'compress', 'gzip', etc) reduces the redundancy of the original information, and also converts plain-text to pseudo-random noise. It is vastly more difficult to apply something like English letter & word frequency heuristics to compressed data then to uncompressed data. Of course, this assumes that the decryptor does not know that the file has been compressed by a specific compression algorithm. (Actually, I'm not sure that having such knowledge would help more then the reduction of redundancy would hurt, but I'll let someone with more cryptoanalytic knowledge figure that out.) But, even given the assumption that the details of the compression algorithm are available to the decryptor, one can place a prelude of some type before the compressed info to defeat decryption algorithms that assume that an encrypted file is a plain .Z.crypt or a .z.crypt file. Now then, Karl: would you care to retract your comments, or offer some sort of justification as to why your remarks are correct? > crypt is nothing more than a privacy tool, and should not in anyway be > considered "secure". I didn't suggest that crypt was secure; I suggested that compressing the information first will make crypt more safe for low-security encryption requirements. This is not "secure", but it is enough to keep random people from snooping your information without considerable effort and computational work. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <stivCs6JLG.Lo7@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 22:24:51 GMT hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: >Having had the chance to eval quite a bit of software on the Next >platform, both PD and Commercial, I have found one program that >stands above the rest, Soft PC. Thank you. >Do not get me wrong, I have used SoftPC under Mac OS, and it >was slow but useable and on a Power PC, it was almost decent. >But, the Next version was a dog. It took up to five to 10 minutes >for dialog boxes to be drawn (I am not talking about launching, >or scrolling large files, I mean a dialog box with 3 fields!!!!). >It took up to 2 minutes to register a click on the mouse. Granted >this is only a NextStation 16/600, but why is SoftPC such a dog. Usually problems like this result from trying to run on a system with insufficient resources (usually memory). Checking the swapping on the system ususally makes this problem obvious. Swapping takes a lot longer than running in memory. Since NeXTStep requires 16 megs to run well, you would probably be surprised how much faster you would go with more memory. Also, bear in mind that the same chip that powers a Mac is residing in your system, handling a much more complex O.S. than System 7, so the odds are it will be slightly slower than a Macintosh. We have a document on our fax response server that goes over the issues that will affect SoftPC performance, this may help you get the best performance from your system. Call (800) 876-3872 and requestdocument #404. >I tried to contact insignia at the tech support #, 3 times I called, >selected next support from their voice mail menu, then the phone would >ring a few times and I would get disconnected!!!! We tested the phone system and are unable to explain the reason you are getting disconnected. We have not had any other complaints regarding similar problems. I tried to look you up to give you a call, but was unable to find you listed as a registered user anywhere in our database so I was unable to find your phone number. >I thought it quite fitting that their support is as good as their program! I am sorry you feel this way. We go out of our way to provide good support. >Bottom, the 20 minute demo was a joke when you consider it takes 5 -10 minutes >per dialog box. I can't test more than one function per launch. And after >40 minutes of sheer hell, why bother? As mentioned earlier, this is not the sort of performance we expect. You may find that quitting other apps to free memory, or increasing the amount of swap on the system will be beneficial and provide acceptable speed. >How can't it be so terrible under Next OS? Huhn? >I was looking at purchasing it for our Nexts and for >some other unix boxes, but with support and performance like that, forget it. If you would like to try again, we would be happy to help you. If not, thanks for looking anyway. Stiv Ostenberg, Insignia Technical Support -- Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore ---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>-- ---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP on NS 3.2 Black Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:03:34 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2ut5l6$ik5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <Cs6BpJ.1Fy@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cs6BpJ.1Fy@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote: >Can anyone tell me about a/the public domain PPP package for >NS 3.2 Black? Does it exist? Where? How robust/usable? > Yes, try cs.orst.edu >Are there commercial packages out there? Expensive? Preferable? Yes. Morning Star Techonologies PPP. Runs great, less filling. I use it all of the time. It's really spiffy. Email sales@morningstar.com for more info or http://www.morningstar.com -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns: it's about control.
From: atai@vision.ucsd.edu (Andy Tai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xwindow on NeXT (68k hardware) Date: 30 Jun 1994 04:40:17 GMT Organization: Computer Vision Lab, Department of ECE, UCSD Message-ID: <2utibh$9kd@deadmin.ucsd.edu> Is there any way to have X window working under NextStep 3.1 on 68k hardware? Here we have mouseX which crashes under 3.1 Thanks for any info.
From: dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch (Daniel Stefan Decasper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend troubles Date: 30 Jun 1994 06:06:51 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Message-ID: <2utndr$b5u@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <2us03b$7ar@shiva.uu.net> In article <2us03b$7ar@shiva.uu.net>, Mickey Lasky <mickey@uunet.uu.net> wrote: > > Has anyone had trouble running the Fiend Dock Extender app? I got it to >compile just fine, but when I run it, it runs for about 5 minutes and then the >disk access icon starts twirling and that's it. It just twirls forever and does >not really access the disk. Eventually it just exits. It looks like a really cool >app, it just doesn't run for more than 5 minutes. > > I compiled it on a Black Turbo slab with NS 3.2... > Strange. I'm using it on a non turbo color station (NS 3.2) and it works great ! Not much help, I know.... Dan
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ? Date: 30 Jun 1994 06:57:45 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2utqd9$27k@rosie.next.com> References: <2urkkh$oia@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <2urkkh$oia@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Mail.app exports a 'NeXTmail Message pasteboard type'. This is the way > the 'Edit/Save Message' and 'Edit/Open Message' services work. The > drawback of those both Edit services is that they only save RTF files. > > Has anybody yet tried to use this Pasteboard type with TickleServices ? > One could build a rather nice 'filter' service e.g. to uudecode mail > messages without the need to cut and paste. Or wait for Mail in NEXTSTEP 3.3. It will export the selected message as ASCII, RTF, and RTFD in addition to the private NeXTmail pboard type (which, by the way, actually doesn't carry any data). Mail 3.3 also includes a way to both encode and decode uuencoded attachments in messages from "foreign" (ie. neither NeXT nor MIME) mail systems. Cheers, --Lennart Lovstrand NeXT Software Engineering
From: Bernard Muller <muller@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xwindows on NeXT Date: 30 Jun 1994 10:22:52 GMT Organization: LSIIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uu6ds$6vt@thot.u-strasbg.fr> I'm looking for a GOOD Xwindow under NeXT(Nextstep 3.1). I'm using mouseX but it does'nt satisfy me. Can someone give me a list of the different products actually in the marquet, and where they can be find. Thanks. muller@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend troubles Date: 30 Jun 1994 09:41:57 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <2uui35$pdj@oclc.org> References: <2us03b$7ar@shiva.uu.net> <2utndr$b5u@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> : I'm using it on a non turbo color station (NS 3.2) and it works great ! : Not much help, I know.... It works very well on my mono NeXTstation (3.2) - for some real fun, click on the graphic in the Info panel.... Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu (David Rarick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Beta? Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:58:38 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uuj2e$dpb@nexus.uiowa.edu> Does anyone know when OmniWeb will reach beta status? It has been in Alpha for quite a while... -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David A. Rarick Newton Archive Moderator | | david-rarick@uiowa.edu moderator@newton.uiowa.edu | | Second Look Computing My opinions are my own, and in | | University of Iowa no way represent my employer. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: E-mail of Intuitiv Systems (?) (Cub X) Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:21:20 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uuntg$gah@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Could somebody help me with the address etc. of Intuitiv Systems? Thanks -- Gabor Freivogel GhK FB Architektur Henschelstr. 2 3500 Kassel E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <1994Jun30.124523.15997@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> <stivCs6JLG.Lo7@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:45:23 GMT >>I tried to contact insignia at the tech support #, 3 times I called, >>selected next support from their voice mail menu, then the phone would >>ring a few times and I would get disconnected!!!! > > We tested the phone system and are unable to explain the reason you >are getting disconnected. We have not had any other complaints regarding >similar problems. I tried to look you up to give you a call, but was >unable to find you listed as a registered user anywhere in our database >so I was unable to find your phone number. I had two other people in my office and we dialed your tech support number at least three times. Each time we selected the Next support department then the line would ring about 10-12 times and then hang up. This was over a 45 minute period. As for not being a registered user, you are correct, that's why we're using a demo version. >>Bottom, the 20 minute demo was a joke when you consider it takes 5 -10 minutes >>per dialog box. I can't test more than one function per launch. And after >>40 minutes of sheer hell, why bother? > > As mentioned earlier, this is not the sort of performance we expect. You >may find that quitting other apps to free memory, or increasing the amount >of swap on the system will be beneficial and provide acceptable speed. This is on a stand alone machine, with no other apps running. We even turned off the prefs app, in case that was eating any memory and rebooted to reset the machine. Maybe 32 megs of memory is what is needed. Or perhaps a better solution is to hope that a Houdini II card can be made for the Next, and give up on software solutions.
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Plan: New Internet Tools for NeXTSTEP Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:44:15 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <2uup8f$690@news1.digex.net> I cannot purport to be any master programmer, but in my time writing some internet utilities for Winsock, I have developed a need for robust, graphical interfaces to the standard internet tools. For that reason, I figure my best introduction to the glories of NeXTSTEP programming could be through developing some new tools. Some of you may remember my whining about NewGrazer a few weeks back. In addition, I have found no IRC client, GatorFTP can't log into half of the FTP sites I try, there's no MUD client, and Archie crashes or never works for me (its interface is lacking compared to the Winsock Archie I'm accustomed to). Therefore, I would like to write some public domain, all-source-included utilities for these purposes, and was curious what other people are looking for in terms of internet utilities. In regards to news, the most pressing issue for me is that I use SLIP and NewsGrazer re-reads the entire list of newsgroups each time it is launched or checks for new mail. I would propose a local database that is ammended with requests to NNTP for a list of new servers. For a MUD client, this may be only something I'm interested in, but the one I wrote for Winsock was important for me solely for an editable history window seperate from the text window. I haven't used IRC much, but I do know that I like the winsock client better than the terminal-based ircII I am using now. For FTP, I'm used to something that doesn't use the generic ftp as its host. Why not access the protocol directly and support more types of hosts? I'd also like to switch between the various File Viewer Modes (Browser, Icon, Listing) because at times, I *LIKE* the long-form listing (which I can then sort by date, extension, etc.). Any comments, suggestions, requests to go away? Chris (who wishes the 'Delete' key would work) ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wacom Driver for NeXT/Moto? Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:45:39 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uupb3$cem@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> I just tried to use one of the new Wacom Tablets UD-1212 on my cube. Unfortunately the InstallTablet appl. does not support this tablett correctly. (it only works in relative mode) I sav Talus s driver on the archives but it is for Intel only..... Does somebody know a fix for this?? Thanks for any help Gabor -- Gabor Freivogel GhK/ University of Kassel FB Architektur Henschelstr. 2 3500 Kassel E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to get NS 3.2 for BLACK?? Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:59:02 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <2utcdm$1avt@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> I am looking for an inexpensive source to buy NS 3.2 user for black hardware. Any info/suggestions would be very welcome! Thank you! john -- john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Screen 3.5.2 compiled? How? Message-ID: <V77PBM3F@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:53:58 GMT Hi, Did anyone out there manage to compile screen 3.5.2 on NS 3.2/m68k? I tried to compile, but it din't compile out of the box, so I don't want to dig into it if someone else did it already. PLEASE ANSWER BY EMAIL, MY NEWSFEED IS BROKEN! Ciao, Stephan -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ +--------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <Cs82vG.10K@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <8i4TURu00iV786gVcw@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:18:51 GMT [I'm going to do a great disservice and quote out of order. One of my nastier habits] I said: > > crypt is nothing more than a privacy tool, and should not in anyway be > > considered "secure". > Charles said: > I didn't suggest that crypt was secure; And I didn't say that you did. I was merely trying to add some comments to the situation, the post was to the world at large, and not sent just to you. Likewise this post also is meant to continue this public discussion, so others might be aware of what crypt is and whether it should or should not be used. (and what can make it weaker) In other words, I'm not trying to attack you, I'm trying to discuss the issue at hand.. Now to discuss some of the points you raised: > Now then, Karl: would you care to retract your comments, or offer some > sort of justification as to why your remarks are correct? In detail: If you use a program like CBW than it is harder to do compressed files. However there are other ways to crack crypt besides CBW. It all depends on what you think you have and how much effort you want to place into the attack. My claim is this: cat cleartext | crypt key > ciphertext produces a file that is fairly trivial to decrypt using CBW, assuming that the cleartext is some human recognizable pattern, such as words, or even program code. However, computationally (ie an automated process), it is less time consuming to decrypt a cipher text made thusly: compress < cleartext | crypt key > ciphertext where cleartext is ANY kind of file, especially a tar file. This is because the compressed file will contain a series of "magic" bytes at the beginning. A file that you believe to contain english text, or some english text, (such as word processor file with other embedded binary data), will require the automated process to decrypt a large section of the file to make the determination as to whether the key is complete. (ie by analysing the result of the attack and applying heuristics to determine whether it's text or goobly gook) A file that contains known plaintext in the first bytes of the first block is easier to evaluate, thus requiring less computational work. In addition, compress itself has built in checking for valid tables, and tar also has magic bytes and a well known structure, so you have even more known result, to automate the checking of a key. You said: > Crypt is not very secure............. > However, you can get reasonable security through crypt > if you tar and compress/gzip the files first and then > crypt them. I said: > > crypt is nothing more than a privacy tool, and should not in anyway be > > considered "secure". You replied: > I didn't suggest that crypt was secure; I suggested that compressing the > information first will make crypt more safe for low-security encryption > requirements. This is not "secure", but it is enough to keep random > people from snooping your information without considerable effort and > computational work. I don't think there is anything that can make crypt more secure. (period) It is insecure, and to me that means unsafe, because it leads the user to believe that he has secure encryption when in fact he does not. It is only a privacy tool. There are things that can make it more difficult to decrypt, but this is true of any encryption scheme. > Of course, this assumes that the decryptor does not know that the file > has been compressed by a specific compression algorithm. Generally speaking, if the format and algorithm are not known, it is a tougher feat. However, it can still be done. Many an encryption scheme had been broken without knowledge of the algorithm ahead of time. So in general people should not put the .crypt extension on, or remove it in the event it's added by the program you are using. > Compressing (via Unix 'compress', 'gzip', etc) reduces the redundancy of > the original information, and also converts plain-text to pseudo-random > noise. Yes, compression programs do produce binary data which is more difficult to run heuristics on, however both compress and gzip put magic bytes at the begging of the file. So if the file is named ciphertext.tar.Z.crypt, then it's a bit obvious that magic bytes await. > It is vastly more difficult to apply something like English > letter & word frequency heuristics to compressed data then to > uncompressed data. But vastly easier to check three bytes then to apply a heuristic. > one can place a prelude of > some type before the compressed info to defeat decryption algorithms > that assume that an encrypted file is a plain .Z.crypt or a .z.crypt > file. Yes, if you bury the signal in noise (much like csn eh?:-) ) then it's harder to check a key. And again this is true of any encryption scheme. (and also defeating things like traffic analysis) -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Plan: New Internet Tools for NeXTSTEP Date: 30 Jun 1994 21:12:34 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uvcg2$62h@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <2uup8f$690@news1.digex.net> In article <2uup8f$690@news1.digex.net> chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) writes: > In regards to news, the most pressing issue for me is that I use SLIP and > NewsGrazer re-reads the entire list of newsgroups each time it is launched > or checks for new mail. I would propose a local database that is ammended > with requests to NNTP for a list of new servers. > I too was thinking of trying to some sort of news reader, maybe based on xrn. I really have no experience in internet, news, or network stuff though and have a few other things I am working on, but I would be willing to help. The same goes for a ftp app that doesn't crash so often and offers more configuration options, like how files are listed. Sorry for posting this but I have gotten email to work from my slip connection yet. John Stanhope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Plan: New Internet Tools for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cs8A5M.KF6@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <2uup8f$690@news1.digex.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 20:56:08 GMT In article <2uup8f$690@news1.digex.net> chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) writes: .. > Any comments, suggestions, requests to go away? > Chris (who wishes the 'Delete' key would work) > ------------- > Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of > the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at > 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. > ------------- > "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- > Carl, 'Caddyshack' How about a utility which would whittle down people's .sig to 3 lines or less, and impose a check of meaningfulness on the same. -- personal opinions
From: rmaher@unlinfo.unl.edu (Rob Maher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] OmniWeb gif display Date: 30 Jun 1994 20:48:24 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <2uvb2o$do7@crcnis1.unl.edu> A bit o' help, please: I just installed OmniWeb on an intel machine. Inline gifs display fine, but links to gifs get brought up in Edit. What do I need to do to automatically send them through OmniImage? -- Dr. Rob Maher, Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln rmaher@unl.edu Electrical Engineering, 209N WSEC 0511 Voice: (402) 472-2081 Lincoln NE 68588-0511 FAX: (402) 472-4732
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ? Message-ID: <1994Jun30.205526.2597@millennium.com> Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <2urkkh$oia@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2utqd9$27k@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 20:55:26 GMT In article <2utqd9$27k@rosie.next.com>, Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes: > [stuff about Mail 3.3, deleted] Do I have to upgrade to 3.3 to run this new-fangled Mail? __jayson
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line encryptor Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:47:56 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8i4oiQa00iV346JEVs@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cs82vG.10K@trapac.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Jun-94 Re: command line encryptor by Karl Kraft@trapac.com > In other words, I'm not trying to attack you, I'm trying to > discuss the issue at hand.. Okay. (Sorry if I overreacted.) > If you use a program like CBW than it is harder to do > compressed files. However there are other ways to crack > crypt besides CBW. It all depends on what you think you > have and how much effort you want to place into the attack. > > My claim is this: > > cat cleartext | crypt key > ciphertext > > produces a file that is fairly trivial to decrypt using CBW, > assuming that the cleartext is some human recognizable > pattern, such as words, or even program code. And compress / gzip makes CBW much harder to use. This is worthwhile in and of itself, since CBW is the primary tool that I know of to decrypt encrypted files. > However, computationally (ie an automated process), it is less time > consuming to decrypt a cipher text made thusly: > > compress < cleartext | crypt key > ciphertext > > where cleartext is ANY kind of file, especially a tar file. > This is because the compressed file will contain a series > of "magic" bytes at the beginning. I'll certainly agree that tar'ing does not improve the security of crypt, and does make it more vulnerable to automated decryption attacks. However, making the assumption that you have a set of magic bytes (2-4, normally), reduces the number of permutations on the first block from 256! to between 254! & 252!. However, once you get past the magic header, the data in question is no longer clear, since compress follows it by the LZH key table, etc. The data in question is a lot harder for heuristic algorithms to attack, since there is no particular relationships among the bit strings. Secondly, figuring out the rotor for the first block is not sufficient; the rotors themselves get permuted ('Zee') with every 256 byte block. You need to decrypt about 4-5 blocks before you can determine the permutation 'Zee' and decrypt the entire message. My claim is that the loss of redundancy and the conversion from plain-text to compressed form makes it much more difficult to decrypt the rest of the message algorithmically, although a brute force method is still feasible. However, the computational requirements for a brute-force attack are very high. This is why compression, which renders frequency heuristics useless (much more difficult?), improves the difficulty of decrypting the message. > A file that contains known plaintext in the first bytes of > the first block is easier to evaluate, thus requiring less > computational work. In addition, compress itself has built > in checking for valid tables, Compress performs no error detection beyond the magic bytes. Try: % /bin/cp /sdmach /tmp/sdmach Change the first three bytes of /tmp/sdmach to 1f 9d 90 somehow. (hexl-mode in emacs works) % /usr/ucb/uncompress < /tmp/sdmach See? No error checking. [ ..munch.. ] > > Of course, this assumes that the decryptor does not know that the file > > has been compressed by a specific compression algorithm. > > Generally speaking, if the format and algorithm are not > known, it is a tougher feat. However, it can still be > done. Many an encryption scheme had been broken without > knowledge of the algorithm ahead of time. So in general > people should not put the .crypt extension on, or remove it > in the event it's added by the program you are using. That's certainly true. > > Compressing (via Unix 'compress', 'gzip', etc) reduces the redundancy of > > the original information, and also converts plain-text to pseudo-random > > noise. > > Yes, compression programs do produce binary data which is > more difficult to run heuristics on, however both compress > and gzip put magic bytes at the begging of the file. So if > the file is named ciphertext.tar.Z.crypt, then it's a bit > obvious that magic bytes await. Yes, and if you name the file "thepassword.tar.Z.crypt", it gets still easier. However, this is not relevant to the general question of whether it is more difficult to decrypt a compressed message then an uncompressed message in the absence of such hints. > > It is vastly more difficult to apply something like English > > letter & word frequency heuristics to compressed data then to > > uncompressed data. > > But vastly easier to check three bytes then to apply a heuristic. Those three bytes are not sufficient to decrypt even one block of the encrypted file (although they do help), and, as I've already said, you need to decrypt about 4-5 blocks before you can decrypt the whole message. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) Subject: Two-column Landscape Printing Utility? Message-ID: <1994Jun30.191658.28908@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:16:58 GMT Greetings! I'm looking for a utility that will allow me to print long source code files in two-column landscape format-- with a reduced font, obviously. Does anyone know of such a utility for the NeXT? (I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color-- NeXTmail OK.) Thanks, Steve
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: benst@stuyts.nl (Ben Stuyts) Subject: FlexFAX for NeXT / Wfw faxing via NeXT? Message-ID: <Cs8KEy.6s1@stuyts.nl> Summary: anybody done a port? Keywords: FlexFAX NeXT NEXTSTEP Windows Organization: Stuyts Engineering Haarlem BV Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 00:37:45 GMT Hi, I would like to install FlexFAX on a NeXT. I didn't see it as one of the supported systems. Has anybody done a port yet? If not, are there any tips/gotchas I should know of? I need the functionality of the contributed Winflex program, so that a couple of Windows for Workgroups machines can fax via the ZyXEL modem on a NeXT. Are there perhaps any other solutions? Thanks, Ben Stuyts (ben@stuyts.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Sony CDW-900E and Rock Ridge - How? Message-ID: <Cs8L69.K2v@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 00:54:09 GMT Hi everyone, We have a Sony CDW-900E CD-ROM writer here, currently running from a Mac using Sony's Hybrid formatter 1.1 software. We need to write an ISO9660 CD-ROM with RockRidge extensions - a Un*x (NeXT) file system. We have software to build a RockRidge CD-ROM image. 1. Can we dump that image from the Mac to the writer? 2. Can we hang the writer off on of our NeXTs and dump the file to it block by block? 3. Is there any way we can write RockRidge CD's on it? Many thanks, Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | Dunedin, | alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Date: 1 Jul 1994 02:42:41 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2uvvr1$2uk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: >But, the Next version was a dog. It took up to five to 10 minutes >for dialog boxes to be drawn (I am not talking about launching, >or scrolling large files, I mean a dialog box with 3 fields!!!!). >It took up to 2 minutes to register a click on the mouse. Granted >this is only a NextStation 16/600, but why is SoftPC such a dog. >Bottom, the 20 minute demo was a joke when you consider it takes 5 -10 minutes >per dialog box. I can't test more than one function per launch. And after >40 minutes of sheer hell, why bother? I don't know what the problem was that you were having, but I can launch Windows on SoftPC on my NeXTStation Color 16/200 with no problem. It takes about a minute to start up Windows from the time I type "win". I am able to play Minesweeper quite well. To me, it performs like a 286/12 running Windows. It sounds to me like you aren't running NS 3.2. There were incredibly performance improvements made in the graphics of NS 3.2 that make things like SoftPC and DOOM run many times faster. BTW, I was just playing with SoftPC/Windows on an 88/Open platform, running on an 88100 quad processor, and I think that it's approximately the same speed as a NeXTStation TurboColor. Granted, the 88100QP was probably doing other things at the time. :-) -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: rharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: AppsoftDraw Problem Date: 1 Jul 1994 04:41:00 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <2v06os$81b@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [previously posted on sysadmin without result - anybody out there got any ideas?] Recently I bought my office Cube (68040, NS 3.0) from my company to use at home. It had a copy of AppsoftDraw (single user v1.02) that worked fine. The machine was disconnected from the ethernet, configured to be a standalone, and some additional accounts set up for my kids to use. Everything worked fine except AppsoftDraw and FloppyWorks. The AppsoftDraw will install and register properly, and will run. When closed and reopened, however, it shows the info panel, a couple of menus, and then goes off to never-never land, leaving a spinning disk and a jammed up cpu. The machine has to be rebooted to clear the mess. FlopyWorks does the same thing. Copies of them both work fine on my office Color Station, which is configured basically as my old machine was. Of course, they are out of business... Any help or suggestions? -- *** Mike Harris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) Subject: tcsh 6.05 Message-ID: <1994Jun30.221308.402@balou.rhein.de> Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) Organization: private NeXT Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 22:13:08 GMT Hi, did anybody succesfully compile tcsh 6.05 for NeXTstep 3.2? tommi ------ Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.rhein.de __o _~o voice/fax: +49 2225 701332 _ -\<,_ _`\<,_ NeXT-Mail appreciated. (_)|/-(_) (*)/ (*)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NX_Mosaic? Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:46:08 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <2v0s5g$9tl@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu> <dcell-280694071414@tudhope.tor.hookup.net> SFSU has a native NEXTSTEP "Clonesaic" under development (similar to NCSA X Mosaic 2.4). It will be freely redistributable (*no* per-user/per-seat licensing!) No announced ship date--don't ask! (probably late summer) More in comp.infosystems.www.users. -=EPS=-
From: p9026363@deneb.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Harald Brun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Record / Execute Macro (Windows) Date: 1 Jul 1994 11:21:18 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2v0u7e$k4e@email.tuwien.ac.at> Keywords: Macro, Record, Execute Hi girls and boys !! I should program the window - commands "Record Macro, Execute Macro" with Visual C++. Is there anybody, who knows existing code or how to get informations about it ?
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printers EtherTalk=NeXTSTEP? Date: 1 Jul 1994 13:44:17 GMT Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey Message-ID: <2v16jh$1pvd@campus.mty.itesm.mx> Hi! I istalled NeXTSTEP 3.2 in our server and we found the PrintManager does not have the possibility to conect and Agfa Accuset imagesetter via Ethernet with apple share protocols. With 3.0 it was working well but I can't install 3.0 again. Anybody out there knows how can I conect this imagesetter to our NeXT computers net? I'll apreciate any help Thank you in advance -- .................................................................. . Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji . . Nexit Diseno Grafico . . . . Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 . . Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico . . tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax . ..................................................................
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DFG_RT.app - real time sound synthesis Message-ID: <1994Jul1.102636.25339@dal1> Date: 1 Jul 94 10:26:36 -0300 Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada PRESS RELEASE July 01, 1994 Contact: DIGITAL RECORDINGS - Advanced R & D 5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622 E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca DFG_RTdemo.app Ver 1.4 Software for NeXTSTEP Computers ====================================================== DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo of the Digital Function Generator (DFG_RT) -sound synthesis software for NeXTSTEP - compatible computers. This version should work on all Motorola and Intel-based NeXTSTEP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* . DFG_RT module was written for real-time synthesis of the sinusoidal (pure tone) signals. Signals are generated in real time and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in some NeXTSTEP computers).Therefore this software will run on all NeXTSTEP computers equipped with D/A converters. Signal is generated in RAM and for this reason no hard disk space is required for operation of the DFG_RT program. This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not used and main processor is used only 2->3% during signal production. New version of DFG_RTdemo.app is available on the following FTP sites: =============================== cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions/DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it/pub/submissions/DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions/DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z ===============================
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything Date: 30 Jun 1994 09:02:13 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2utu65$164@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <Cs3p4n.C0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jacques Garbi writes: >In article <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org >(Markus Wenzel) writes: >> Are you sure you supplied enough swap space? Tailor gobbles up swap >> space when used with large PS files. >> >Well no, I'm not sure ! I have the automatically set 16MB swap file. >I have 48MB of RAM and a 1.75GB drive. Do you think I should set up more >swap space ? And if yes, how ? No, this should be really enough, if there's about 100-200 MB free on your disk. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) Subject: Re: Two-column Landscape Printing Utility? Message-ID: <1994Jul1.131244.5643@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA References: <1994Jun30.191658.28908@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:12:44 GMT Everyone: Thanks for the suggestions; enscript works great! Steve
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: New Public Domain Internet Tools for NeXT Date: 1 Jul 1994 17:38:39 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <2v1kav$e88@news1.digex.net> Well, I've gotten some good feedback about writing some new NeXTSTEP graphical internet tools for the public domain (all with source so maybe the experts can clean them up), and some volunteers to help, but nothing in the way of DESIRES or NEEDS for the software. The following are what I intend to include in the various apps (in the order I hope to finish them in): MUD Client: -- storage of sites, ports, etc. for quick launch -- quick-command macro window for launching commonly used commands-phrases -- resizable view and chat windows. All MUD text is typed in the chat window, which supports re-use of and editing of lines. -- user extraction: choosing certain user names and having all of their output placed in seperate user windows (sort of making your own chat-window) -- simple scripting for automatically logging on NNTP News Reader: -- local storage of newsgroup lists with a query for new groups at launch (shorten the lengthy time re-reading mostly unchanged data at every load) -- re-read option to scan complete list for finding deleted groups -- options for displaying article title/author/lines/date (other header info) in preview window -- three search mechanisms for displaying groups: subscribed groups only, complete tree (like NewsGrazer) and tree of only subscribed groups -- background threads looking for new messages -- search for substring in newsgroup list for subscribing (such as "list all newsgroups with 'next' in the title") -- pretty much mostly like NewsGrazer, but without the constant newsgroup lookup FTP Client: -- don't use ftp as front end, written directly to RFC spec -- support for File Viewer's different view modes (icon, browser, list) with customizable info in list view -- storage of site info: host type, address, port, name, login name, password, default directory -- firewall support? -- local directory list with view/execute/transfer options (downloading AND uploading) -- better use of space by only including the directory information in main panel instead of the site listing and a huge file transfer area, etc. -- multiple sessions which can be minimized IRC Client: -- stroage of different hosts and ports with multiple sessions and configurations including aliases and auto-run scripts -- join multiple channels and place output in different windows -- browser of all channels with thread updating new/closed ones -- search of channels for user names -- a lot of stuff that I don't know yet because irc is VERY new to many Archie Client: -- basic features like the current archie, just a lot of user interface changes -- display of queue status of search -- multiple host search (with list in main panel, not Preferences) -- different file viewer modes like FTP client -- search method and most of the other items you change frequently moved from preferences to main panel I guess that's it for now. Please post or mail me any other suggestions, and I'll be working over the weekend! Chris (would like a color Terminal window) ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: f2c output requires libc.a? Message-ID: <1994Jul1.141305.8951@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 1 Jul 94 14:13:05 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... I see this comment at the top of f2c output: /* test.f -- translated by f2c (version of 25 March 1992 12:58:56). You must link the resulting object file with the libraries: -lF77 -lI77 -lm -lc (in that order) */ cc can't find a file for -lc. What should I replace it with? Thanks, kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: undocumented sendmail flag? Message-ID: <1994Jul1.141509.8952@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 1 Jul 94 14:15:08 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Does anyone know what the "-i" sendmail flag is for? Thanks, kc
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MOD Player for NeXTSTEP 3.2 (MAB) Date: 01 Jul 1994 19:45:23 GMT Organization: welcome to nowhere... Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Jul1214523arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> References: <2u8bs2$j6n@nic.ott.hookup.net> <2ue4ps$e8j@cubenx.cube.de> In-reply-to: Ingo Feulner's message of 24 Jun 1994 08:17:00 GMT Originator: ARKIN@nice In article <2ue4ps$e8j@cubenx.cube.de> Ingo Feulner <ifeulner@cube.de> writes: > Sorry, but there is no Intel version. And there will never be one. That's > because ModPlayer's source contains some 68k assembly code... > > But perhaps we'll see an Intel version of Paula? [copy and paste] Sorry, but there is no Intel version. And there will never be one. That's because Paula's source contains large parts written in 68k assembly code... I use the original amiga protracker routine and the mixing/interpolation is assembly code as well... christian
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: f2c output requires libc.a? Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:07:20 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0i58K8K00iV58638Iv@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul1.141305.8951@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Jul-94 f2c output requires libc.a? by J. Kelly Cunningham@lips > I see this comment at the top of f2c output: > /* test.f -- translated by f2c (version of 25 March 1992 12:58:56). > You must link the resulting object file with the libraries: > -lF77 -lI77 -lm -lc (in that order) > */ > > cc can't find a file for -lc. What should I replace it with? It may not be necessary (try linking without it), otherwise try '-lNeXT_s'. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ciardo@cs.wm.edu (Gianfranco Ciardo) Subject: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul1.212803.17771@cs.wm.edu> Sender: news@cs.wm.edu (News System) Organization: The College of William and Mary Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:28:03 GMT Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price? I have been quoted $595, which is over twice as much as 1.0 was... -- Gianfranco Ciardo
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ? Date: 1 Jul 1994 21:25:09 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2v21jl$4gc@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jun30.205526.2597@millennium.com> In article <1994Jun30.205526.2597@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes: > In article <2utqd9$27k@rosie.next.com>, Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes: > > [stuff about Mail 3.3, deleted] > > Do I have to upgrade to 3.3 to run this new-fangled Mail? > > __jayson No, if you buy 3.3 you should be able to just copy the app onto your 3.2 system and run it there if you like. --Lennart
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Question about djf driver Date: 1 Jul 1994 08:28:32 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2v0gj0$2ek@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <24062912500195@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) writes: >In looking for a printer, I'm reminded that the DeskJet printers are OK quality >and quite inexpensive. The djf driver on the archives works with the DestJet >500, through a serial port. The new DeskJet 520 printer seems not to have a >serial port, only a parallel port. Does anyone know if the djf driver will >work with the DeskJet 520 (or, for that matter, with the 500 through the >parallel port)? Of course. Just configure '/dev/pp0' as output device. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything Message-ID: <Cs9HIG.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA References: <Cs5tvz.EH@euler.hnv.icem.de> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:32:40 GMT In article <Cs5tvz.EH@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes: > In article <Cs3p4n.C0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: > > In article <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org > > (Markus Wenzel) writes: > > > Are you sure you supplied enough swap space? Tailor gobbles up swap > > > space when used with large PS files. > > > > > > > Well no, I'm not sure ! I have the automatically set 16MB swap file. > > I have 48MB of RAM and a 1.75GB drive. Do you think I should set up more > > swap space ? And if yes, how ? > > Sounds good for starters. > Is there enough space free on the disk? (gets displayed in the workspaceManager or by df in a > Terminal window), > Usually the swapfile just grows to the rquired size, so your 16MB is just a lowwater mark. > However take a look at /etc/swaptab to check for a hiwater mark (hiwat=???). If it exists, it may > be the culprit as it limits the swapfile from ever getting bigger but causes the system to hang. > Remove the hiwater mark for experimental purposes. > > Juergen > --- > Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 > == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, > == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee? There is enough free space on my disk (about 370MB) and there is no hiwat whatever in /etc/swaptab. Thanks Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: PC 80x25 font for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cs9IE8.ACH@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:51:44 GMT One of our apps needs to show a screen layout that must (for boring historical reasons) look exactly like something which used to run on a PC. In actual fact its worse than that, its actually a market-data service that used to run over ViewData which is a funny character based system used in the UK and Europe, a bit like Minitel or Prestel. So, we need a cheesy PC-type font. Any ideas/points etc? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Adobe Sonata - Convert Mac to NeXT Message-ID: <CsAML0.Bxp@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 03:19:47 GMT Hi, I have just purchased the Adobe Sonata font. Since Adobe no longer sell NeXTSTEP fonts, they kindly :-/ sent me the Mac version instead. Can someone tell me how to convert it into a NeXTSTEP font. Or better still, could someone NeXTmail me a genuine NeXTSTEP Sonata font. Many thanks, Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | Dunedin, | alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tcsh 6.05 Date: 1 Jul 1994 21:26:12 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2v2q94$57v@crl3.crl.com> References: <1994Jun30.221308.402@balou.rhein.de> Yes. A bit of sed script that generates tc.const.h gave me some headache. A little manual editing and I have been running it last few days without trouble. (NS3.2/I) Best Regards. --chip(cnayak@crl.com)
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: f2c output requires libc.a? Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:24:58 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2v2tna$j97@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Jul1.141305.8951@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> In article <1994Jul1.141305.8951@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> writes: > > I see this comment at the top of f2c output: > /* test.f -- translated by f2c (version of 25 March 1992 12:58:56). > You must link the resulting object file with the libraries: > -lF77 -lI77 -lm -lc (in that order) > */ > > cc can't find a file for -lc. What should I replace it with? f2c knows to load the proper system library, but... in /lib: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 10 Dec 2 1993 libc.a -> libsys_s.a@ will do the job. The link also satifies many other PD sources which are wont to use libc.a explicitly in their Makefiles. -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Marble Teleconnect and Black 3.2 Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:28:02 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v2tt2$qiv@yarrina.connect.com.au> Keywords: slip, next, marble, teleconnect, 3.2 Hi, I've been running a machine with 3.0 and Teleconnect for a while now. I'd like to upgrade to 3.2, but I'm having some problems with the SLIP connection. I upgraded a machine to 3.2 and re-installed Teleconnect 1.1. At boot time, I get the following messages: Marble Teleconnect: 10 Teleconnections prepared ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR 0x1102cf0c These last three lines are repeated a further 9 times. When I launch Telemonitor and manually establish the connection, it raises DTR, (which is enough to make the call on the ISDN Terminal Adaptor). TeleMonitor claims it is receiving packets back from the TA. When I ping the target address, TeleMonitor shows outgoing packets, but the TA does not receive them (The TXD light does not flash) I have verified that the cable is OK. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Cameron. --- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Marble Teleconnect and Black 3.2 Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:28:11 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v2ttb$qj4@yarrina.connect.com.au> Keywords: slip, next, marble, teleconnect, 3.2 Hi, I've been running a machine with 3.0 and Teleconnect for a while now. I'd like to upgrade to 3.2, but I'm having some problems with the SLIP connection. I upgraded a machine to 3.2 and re-installed Teleconnect 1.1. At boot time, I get the following messages: Marble Teleconnect: 10 Teleconnections prepared ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR 0x1102cf0c These last three lines are repeated a further 9 times. When I launch Telemonitor and manually establish the connection, it raises DTR, (which is enough to make the call on the ISDN Terminal Adaptor). TeleMonitor claims it is receiving packets back from the TA. When I ping the target address, TeleMonitor shows outgoing packets, but the TA does not receive them (The TXD light does not flash) I have verified that the cable is OK. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Cameron. --- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Marble Teleconnect and Black 3.2? Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:28:54 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v2tum$qkf@yarrina.connect.com.au> Hi, I've been running a machine with 3.0 and Teleconnect for a while now. I upgraded a machine to 3.2 and re-installed Teleconnect 1.1. At boot time, I get the following messages: Marble Teleconnect: 10 Teleconnections prepared ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR 0x1102cf0c These last three lines are repeated a further 9 times. When I launch Telemonitor and manually establish the connection, it raises DTR, (which is enough to make the call on the ISDN Terminal Adaptor). TeleMonitor claims it is receiving packets back from the TA. When I ping the target address, TeleMonitor shows outgoing packets, but the TA does not receive them (The TXD light does not flash) I have verified that the cable is OK. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks, Cameron. --- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
From: cdb@yarrina.xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Marble Teleconnect and NS 3.2 black compatible? Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:33:48 GMT Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd Message-ID: <2v2u7s$qle@yarrina.connect.com.au> I recently upgraded a machine to 3.2 and re-installed Teleconnect 1.1. At boot time, I get the following messages: Marble Teleconnect: 10 Teleconnections prepared ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR 0x1102cf0c These last three lines are repeated a further 9 times. When I launch Telemonitor and manually establish the connection, it raises DTR, (which is enough to make the call on the ISDN Terminal Adaptor). TeleMonitor claims it is receiving packets back from the TA. When I ping the target address, TeleMonitor shows outgoing packets, but the TA does not receive them (The TXD light does not flash) I have verified that the cable is OK. Configuration: NS 3.2, Mono Turbo slab, 16MB RAM. Has anybody successfully used Teleconnect 1.1 and NS 3.2? Did you see this problem? Even if you are using the two in combination without a problem, please mail me. Marble support has been less than fantastic...... Thanks, Cameron. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
From: cdb@yarrina.xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Multiple post apology Date: 2 Jul 1994 05:36:14 GMT Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd Message-ID: <2v2uce$qrj@yarrina.connect.com.au> Whoops, My article on Teleconnect got posted a few times. Apologies. NewsGrazer told me it had failed, so I used tin. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: MDI - Multiple Document Interface onNextStep? Message-ID: <CsAtAw.78r@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <shtmar04.37.2E118932@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 05:45:04 GMT In article <shtmar04.37.2E118932@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za> shtmar04@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za (Mark Richard Shuttleworth) writes: > Hiya, > > I've never seen NEXTSTEP, so I may be way out of my depth here. Does it have > any sort of standard, de facto or official, to handle MDI approaches to > document work? Yes, Objects. Each window is represented by one single object instantiated as many times as you want. Or has it already gone past that, to a more document centered > OLE or OpenDoc approach? > > Does this not apply to NEXT? Not in the same way as in Windows, since windows are not restricted to the bounds of a parent window > > Did MDI really evolve from MS? > It's there hack in C to try and do Objects they way they should be done > Thanks for any info! > > Cheers, > > Mark
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul6.170542.3480@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads Organization: /etc/organization References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> <CsH85G.39L@borland.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:05:42 GMT In article <CsH85G.39L@borland.com>, Wayne Davison <davison@borland.com> wrote: >According to Paul Homchick <paul@cgh.cgh.com>: >> It is as if the new programs cannot open any articles. > >No, the readdir routines that trn/mthreads is trying to use aren't returning >any files, so trn/mthreads are led to believe that there is nothing in the >directory to even try to open. This is something that I'd really like to >get Configure to figure out for itself, but I'm at a loss as to what sort >of brain-damaged library causes the thing to link but not run correctly. This is correct. I just wrestled with this one myself. I believe that all that needs doing is for the dirent variable to be undefined. The problem seems to be that there are 2 types of directory entries that the NeXT believes in... BSD and POSIX. Config finds the DIR entry because "it's a BSD box", then it finds the dirent entry because the file exists (so we should use it, right???)... As soon as you undef the dirent entry it should work. Ideally, Configure should say "I've found an entry for directory structures, no need to look for the dirent stuff as well...". Kurt Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!mallen From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: device to switch monitor off? Date: 6 Jul 1994 20:45:27 GMT Organization: This Space for Rent. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <2vf557$ack@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: mallen@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: unseen1.acns.nwu.edu I saw in NeXTWORLD about somekind of device that would shut down your monitor after ten minutes of non use. Does anyone have one of those and what do you think of it? (I also need ordering information.) I would just look it up myself, but I am in the process of moving and so most of my stuff is in boxes. -- mallen@nwu.edu Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: evan@method (Evan Schofer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT Date: 6 Jul 1994 22:05:56 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <2vf9s4$j0r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> NNTP-Posting-Host: method.stanford.edu In article <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. What > statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise I'll save the > replies and answer the question next time it is asked. Also, TDA, can easily be compiled on Next's. It's written in c and compiled with only the tiniest of changes... It can handle a wide variety of models. I'll include the index from the help screen below-- it gives you a sense of the things TDA can do. Unfortunately, I'm not sure where it's available via FTP... Evan Schofer guitar@leland.stanford.edu evan@method.stanford.edu (Nextmail OK) =================================================================== TDA. Analysis of Transition Data (5.3) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- TDA Help Menu. Commands: Next line: CR Next page: blank and CR Previous page: - and CR Quit: q and CR Available Topics 0 Help menu 14 Quantal response models 1 Basic commands 15 Contingency tables 2 The data matrix 16 Log-linear models 3 Using data files 17 Transition rate models 4 Missing values 18 Maximum Likelihood estimation 5 System files 19 The protocol file 6 Case weights 20 Monte Carlo experiments 7 Panel data 21 Data handling utilities 8 Episode data 22 Merging data files 9 Creating data files 10 Numerical print formats 11 Descriptive statistics 12 Life table and PL estimates 13 Regression models Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!stevens-tech.edu!vaxc.stevens-tech.edu!sdavenpo From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: downloading with tip and rz Message-ID: <1994Jul6.181039.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Lines: 14 Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:10:39 GMT How can I download files via modem using tip and rz? I can connect via tip without a hitch, but I've tried several combinations of downloading with no luck. I know for a fact that the sz I'm using at the remote works fine. Any clues? Scott Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Internet Mail Only Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!lemson From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom! for black Date: 6 Jul 1994 23:03:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 16 Message-ID: <2vfd7b$hro@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Jul6.054119.18111@seas.smu.edu> Reply-To: lemson@uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon) writes: >I have recently downloaded DOOM from cs.orst.edu. I noticed that >it did not have sound support, so I downloaded the sound files >from CompuServe. Now, where do I put these files? (actually, it >is a folder named DoomSounds, with dozens of files in it) i tried >putting the folder in the Doom.app and DoomLaunch folders, to no >avail. Any ideas? It says in the Help under the Info menu that DOOM for NeXT doesn't support sound in this version. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!mccaw!usenet From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I get OmniWeb.app? Date: 6 Jul 1994 22:23:05 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <2vfas9$hti@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <2vf03n$rn3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.204.14.70 In article <2vf03n$rn3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > Hi. > > Everybody's buzzin' about it, where can I FTP it? > It's at ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software, and not at any of the usual software sites because it is still in beta. You might want to pick up OmniImageFilter while you are there - OmniWeb uses it to filter inline images. Also there is a mailing list if you have any suggestions for improvements, etc. OmniWeb-l on listproc@omnigroup.com. -Greg > Robert > > > > -- > Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu > MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory > --- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. --- > ---> NeXTmail always welcome <--- ------------ Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!news From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: Doom! for black Message-ID: <CsJKrJ.46v@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-1-103.gw.umn.edu Reply-To: milb0005@gold.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <1994Jul6.054119.18111@seas.smu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:19:15 GMT Lines: 17 In article <1994Jul6.054119.18111@seas.smu.edu> dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon) writes: > I have recently downloaded DOOM from cs.orst.edu. I noticed that > it did not have sound support, so I downloaded the sound files > from CompuServe. Now, where do I put these files? (actually, it > is a folder named DoomSounds, with dozens of files in it) i tried > putting the folder in the Doom.app and DoomLaunch folders, to no > avail. Any ideas? Ditto --- ------------------------------------------------------------------- James P. Klett klett002@.maroon.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred ------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!news From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: Where can I get OmniWeb.app? Message-ID: <CsJKut.499@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-1-103.gw.umn.edu Reply-To: milb0005@gold.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <2vf03n$rn3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:18:31 GMT Lines: 12 In article <2vf03n$rn3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > Hi. > > Everybody's buzzin' about it, where can I FTP it? > > Robert > ftp.omnigroup.com Don't forget to get the other apps OmniImage and OmniImageFilter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!stanifor From: stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Gresley Staniford-Chen) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <CsJnE5.Fsv@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <8i4oiQa00iV346JEVs@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 00:15:41 GMT Lines: 11 The system call encrypt (do `man encrypt') does DES encryption. This is still good enough for most practical purposes. I don't know of a command line interface to it on the NeXT though. Some machines have a des command which does this. -- ================================================================== Stuart Staniford-Chen | .sigs - bumper stickers Dept of Computer Science, UC Davis | on the information stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu | superhighway (916) 756-8697 | Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!pdh.com!dan From: dan@pdh.com (Dan Delany) Subject: MAPI? Message-ID: <CsJFvB.23q@pdh.com> Organization: PDH, Inc. Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 21:33:10 GMT Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:17423 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9885 comp.sys.next.software:11503 comp.sys.next.programmer:10713 A customer of our firm has asked us to look into developing apps that run with MAPI, but we can't find any technical documentation on MAPI. Is there a place on the net that would have any documentation, or is there a place I can call or write for documentation? If there is interest, I will summarize replies back to the net. -- Dan Delany, Dan_Delany@pdh.com (NeXT mail OK) System Administrator, PDH Inc. "Do places like this really exist?" "Only in the movies." Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!chinook!dsinn From: dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Comm program for Black Date: 7 Jul 1994 01:14:49 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <2vfku9$7q5@nwfocus.wa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chinook.halcyon.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Could anyone suggest a good communications program for a Black NeXT running NS3.0? On a similar note, is it possible to drive the serial ports at over 19.2? (Like 38.4...) Thanks. David Sinn dsinn@halcyon.com Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!nstn.ns.ca!nstn.ns.ca!nntp-user From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New Public Domain Internet Tools for NeXT Date: 7 Jul 1994 01:27:48 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Lines: 22 Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <17093.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Reply-To: <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: owl.nstn.ns.ca X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_11 X-POPMail-Charset: English To: chris@clubside.digex.net On 1 Jul 1994 17:38:39 GMT, Chris Rowley wrote: >Well, I've gotten some good feedback about writing some new NeXTSTEP >graphical internet tools for the public domain (all with source so maybe >the experts can clean them up), and some volunteers to help, but nothing >in the way of DESIRES or NEEDS for the software. The following are what I >intend to include in the various apps (in the order I hope to finish them >in): Chris: If you want someone who both DESIRES and NEEDS those applications - Here is oneparty who would love to have them... please let me know your progress... Cheers, Todd -- Todd White Phoenix Project SEINS seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!wrob From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for WetPaint and Transfer (Pinnacle Research) Date: 7 Jul 1994 07:11:30 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 14 Message-ID: <2vg9r2$puk@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca Keywords: WetPaint Transfer Pinnacle PRI In article <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl>, Herman G. Poorthuis <herman@homerus> wrote: >Could anyone tell me how to get WetPaint and Transfer. My mail to Pinnacle >Research hasn't been answered untill now. I think there was a message >about WetPaint some time ago but I cannot find it. WetPaint is now a Lighthouse product. You might want to try contacting Lighthouse. RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!mreynold From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: FVWM, X-window manager @ cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <mreynoldCsK664.DnJ@netcom.com> Keywords: X Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 07:01:16 GMT Lines: 25 I placed the source (no binaries) for fvwm in the submissions direcotry at cs.orst.edu. FVWM is a virtual window manager for X. Here's the README: ---------------------- FVWM 1.22d for NeXT FVWM is a mwm/4Dwm style (X-windows) window manager, with a virtual desktop. I've compiled this version on my black NeXT running a Mouse-X server. This version is a little flaky, but I haven't seen any serious bugs (yet). Hopefully I'll get a chance to track this down soon, but don't count on it. If you have any NeXT specific problems, feel free to contact me. <mreynold@netcom.com> I may or may not be able to help. If you FIX any bugs, be sure to send me a patch ;) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!chsun!elna.ethz.ch!inf.ethz.ch!dsdecasp From: dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch (Daniel Stefan Decasper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: downloading with tip and rz Date: 7 Jul 1994 06:48:15 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Lines: 20 Message-ID: <2vg8ff$lju@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <1994Jul6.181039.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rif4.iiic.ethz.ch In article <1994Jul6.181039.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>, <sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: >How can I download files via modem using tip and rz? >I can connect via tip without a hitch, but I've tried several combinations of >downloading with no luck. I know for a fact that the sz I'm using at the >remote works fine. > - First, make sure that the rz and sz binaries are in a known path. - Connect with tip. - When you want to download, type sz filename on the remote machine - press ~$ on the NeXT - type rz -1 [can't remember what the -1 was good for but use it anyway.. ;-)] Should work this way. If you want to upload, use sz -1 filename on the NeXT. Hope it helps, Dan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!vampir.hnv.icem.de!euler!js From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything Message-ID: <CsJ59D.C5@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Cs9HIG.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:44:01 GMT Lines: 21 In article <Cs9HIG.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: > There is enough free space on my disk (about 370MB) and there is no hiwat > whatever in /etc/swaptab. So swap space is unliekly to be the problem as the swapfile gets resized (growing) automatically. Maybe Tailor just needs a real lot of time? From what I experienced it tries to decompose the PS code to allow interactive manipulations. For instance lines created within a loop will become a set of singular items as you may like to manipulate a single line. For a 600kB PS file I once experienced a startup time of about 20 minutes! This is a lot but afterwards I could work with Tailor! So maybe you just have to wait longer - or does your machine really die (sorry, can't remember)? Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee? Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!beavis.im.med.umich.edu!stimpy From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I want to buy NS/FIP software Date: 7 Jul 1994 11:22:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Lines: 27 Message-ID: <2vgoig$rht@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2v9ap8$amc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <thompsonCsHCz2.At4@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: beavis.im.med.umich.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Eric Thompson (thompson@netcom.com) wrote: : *flame on* : How about a translation? : "I'm a clueless idiot who thinks that all NEXTSTEP software vendors (stupid loser responce deleted) : *flame off* figures... the losers post from netcom.com BTW loser, I get a lot of responces.... and yes, most NeXTSTEP software vendors DO read USENET, you are the clueless idiot... gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------ Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.seanet.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!not-for-mail From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Current WRI support? Date: 7 Jul 1994 05:00:02 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vgqo2$o6l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Can somebody tell me what WRI is saying in terms of NEXTSTEP support? The black product obviously exists, but I'm wondering about INTEL and also specifically whether WRI has made any statement about HPPA support. thanks. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!not-for-mail From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: NeXTSTEP and WIN on the same PC? Message-ID: <CsKp4p.5H4@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: hogpf.ho.att.com Organization: AT&T Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:50:48 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11512 comp.sys.next.misc:14078 folks, please bear with me if this is a rather ridiculous question. i've just encountered the NeXT world, and would love to continue exploring it. I currently have a 486, 33MegaHertz, 32 RAM, 510 hard drive, and am running the latest version of WINDOWS. can i load NeXTSTEP on the PC and then at bootup, choose to go either into WIN or NeXTSTEP? if so, how difficult is this to do? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!usenet From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current WRI support? Date: 7 Jul 1994 16:05:35 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vh94f$iap@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2vgqo2$o6l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Reply-To: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: allanon.math.byu.edu In article <2vgqo2$o6l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) writes: > Can somebody tell me what WRI is saying in terms of NEXTSTEP support? > The black product obviously exists, but I'm wondering about INTEL and > also specifically whether WRI has made any statement about HPPA > support. We are currently running Mathematica with NS/FIP 3.2. Currently Mma 2.2 is offered as two separate packages for the two architectures. According to Dan Brown at WRI, the next release will be FAT. I believe there will be support for HP/PA eventually, but I don't know when. I'll ask Dan. -- Paul M. Cardon President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager Math Department - Brigham Young University Member of the Open Buzzword Foundation (OBF) Standards Committee Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!vampir.hnv.icem.de!euler!js From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Magnifying-glass Software? Message-ID: <CsKGB2.AG@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2vefip$atq@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 10:40:13 GMT Lines: 24 In article <2vefip$atq@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Allard) writes: > Greetings. > > Back in the Mac days (no, this isn't c.s.n.advocacy, so no Mac flames, pretty > please? :-), there was a little "magnifying-glass" program that would enlarge > the screen to make it more viewable, e.g. by people with vision difficulties. > > Is there something similar for the NeXT? We use NeXTs rather heavily here, > and a prospective student would require such a display aid. > > Any information on such an animal would be greatly appreciated. Please > e-mail replies to me, and I will summarize (if there's anything to be > summarized :-). There is Magnify.app by C.D.Lane (lane@sumex-aim.stanford.edu). It came with full sources on the first Jana CD if I remember correctly. Should be out there in archive-land. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!edew From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Message-ID: <edewCsKx7B.M8A@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> <2veggc$m2h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:45:10 GMT Lines: 31 In article <2veggc$m2h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> pcu@umich.edu writes: >In article <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> >fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: >> I'm trying to locate image display software for NSI 3.2 (white). >> Most immediately, I need a GIF viewer (any GIF viewer!). In the >> back of my mind is a desire to also handle JPEG, and possibly PICT >> (Macintosh) files, etc. > >I'm not sure if an NS/Intel version exists, but ImageViewer handles just about >every file type. It was written by an engineer at NeXT, so I might try >ftp.next.com when looking for it. >(from the help menu). >Filetype Desciption Operations >atkras Andrew Rasterfiles (binary and ascii) read > ... >Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> >Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan >Anything to me is sweeter, >Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann I picked up a freeware from ftping to cc.sonata.purdue.edu, anonymous ftp, cd /pub/next/???/3.0 I think cs.orst.edu also has a version of ImageViewer.app. Very powerful app. In addtion to viewing practically everything (jpg, gif, tiff, eps, etc.) it can change format from one to another (that is, from a compatible one to another). EDEW Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!mreynold From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: Re: FVWM, X-window manager @ cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <mreynoldCsKxnC.HM2@netcom.com> Keywords: X Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <mreynoldCsK664.DnJ@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:54:47 GMT Lines: 9 I've had a number of requests for the binaries...I'll upload them tonight. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de!newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de!mpd.amaranth.com From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com Subject: NeXTStep 3.0 Package Installer Message-ID: <19.47604674.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:54:22 GMT Lines: 7 I'm trying to install the developer package on a different drive than the boot drive. The machine will not give me the option to change drives and the book was no help. Please e-mail help. I have had the NeXT for a week. Thanks Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!network.ucsd.edu!usenet From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTIME and AVI: Yes and No? Date: 7 Jul 1994 18:02:35 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhfvr$deh@network.ucsd.edu> Reply-To: alevine@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: guava.extern.ucsd.edu Can anyone explain this? NEXTIME checks itself in with Workspace as groovy for opening .avi movies. But the application doesn't appear to want to open or play them. What gives? Alex -- Alexander Levine Review Editor, NEXT IN LINE alex@guava.ucsd.edu NeXTMail fine ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!balu.ixpoint.de!usenet From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current WRI support? Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:37:09 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vheg5$29s@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2vgqo2$o6l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Reply-To: gguelden@ixpoint.de NNTP-Posting-Host: gg_cube.ixpoint.de In article <2vgqo2$o6l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) writes: > Can somebody tell me what WRI is saying in terms of NEXTSTEP support? > The black product obviously exists, but I'm wondering about INTEL and > also specifically whether WRI has made any statement about HPPA > support. Mathematica exists in new versions on Motorola and Intel. I have no doubt that an HP will come. Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!mccaw!usenet From: Kolyer (with a `K') Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Modula-2 on NeXT? Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:57:24 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <2vhfm4$lsd@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Reply-To: jon.kolyer@mccaw.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.204.42.73 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11520 comp.sys.next.programmer:10727 Anybody know if there's a Modula-2 compiler for the NeXT available? Thanks, --JK _______________________________________________________________ jon.kolyer@mccaw.com | This space intentionally Paradigm Systems Corporation | left blank... NeXTmail is cool. My thoughts, opinions, and experiences are my own. Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!chemabs!lwv26 From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <1994Jul7.193104.24204@chemabs.uucp> Followup-To: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads Sender: usenet@chemabs.uucp Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc. References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> <CsH85G.39L@borland.com> <1994Jul6.170542.3480@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: na Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:31:04 GMT Lines: 7 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de news.software.readers:7898 comp.sys.next.software:11521 Should the default for programs like this be to look for POSIX first, and then, if it can't find that, look for BSD (or perhaps System V, then BSD)? -- :s Great net resources sought... :s Larry W. Virden INET: lvirden@cas.org :s Personal: 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614 The task of an educator should be to irrigate the desert not clear the forest. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!news.cuny.edu!its.brooklyn.cuny.edu!kparks From: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: modem, downloading help. Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:13:44 GMT Organization: Brooklyn College Lines: 39 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhnlo$jsr@news.cuny.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: atrium32.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- hi all! i was hoping to get some help. i've got a situaion, a definite type of situation. i just got a modem for a NeXT, and i don't know what the hell i'm doing. i got the modem all plugged in and it works fine. i was able to dailup with kermit and log onto my account at another place where i can pick up the internet, and now i'd like to be able to get and put files from that account onto the NeXT via the modem, the problem is that the place i am dialing up to doesn't have kermit. they only have xmodem, ymodem and zmodem, file transfer. can i dailup with kermit and then somehow use z or x modem? or is there some other FREE communications package for the NeXT that uses xmodem, ymodem and zmodem, file transfer (like ProComm for DOS)? i found binaries for xmodem and zmodem for NeXT at an ftp site, but i have no clue how to use them. (anybody have a users guide of sorts for xmodem and zmodem?) i also have kermit and tip. what's the best route? best software? any suggestions, information, help, please? thanks in advance. - kevin parks (the center for computer music at brooklyn college) kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!relay.puug.pt!news.inesc.pt!animal.inescn.pt!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!news.uminho.pt!newsadm From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) Subject: Re: Wordperfect? Message-ID: <1994Jul7.154650.295@news.uminho.pt> Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account) Organization: Universidade do Minho References: <2upc3v$bj5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:46:50 GMT Lines: 33 > I use it w/o any grief. But I'm not a power user. I'm using 1.0.2, i believe. > > Hope this helps, > > C. I bought version 1.0.1. It just doesn't work with foreign characters! So badly, that we could not use it for Portuguese text. Although it has some nice features, it's probably the worst word processor I ever used in terms of the output quality, i.e, in terms of the appearance of the output printed text. The composition of characters (which is excellent with TeX) is very bad with WordPerfect. I have to adjust manually the kerning between characters... But if you are from U.S.A., you don't have those problems! Jorge. -- Jorge Gustavo Rocha Email jgr@di.uminho.pt ------------------------------------------------------------ Departamento de Inform'atica Tel +351 53 604461 Universidade do Minho Fax +351 53 612954 4700 Braga PORTUGAL NeXTmail welcome ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!thompson From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: I want to buy NS/FIP software Message-ID: <thompsonCsL2vv.L70@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM References: <2v9ap8$amc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <thompsonCsHCz2.At4@netcom.com> <2vgoig$rht@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 18:47:55 GMT Lines: 11 Gary L. <stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu> wrote: >you are the clueless idiot... > >gary Gary, I might add that it was quite thoughtful and mature of you to send me that meg of binary garbage I found in my mailbox this morning. Something of a thank-you, I presume? Eric Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sun4nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!rw8.urc.tue.nl!rcbaab From: rcbaab@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NASA Voyager CD-ROMS viewer wanted Date: 7 Jul 1994 21:33:30 +0200 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Lines: 13 Message-ID: <rcbaab.773609393@rw8.urc.tue.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: rw8.urc.tue.nl Keywords: Voyager pictures, CD-ROM, viewer X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #9 (NOV) Hello, I hope someone is so kind to remind me of the ftp-site where I can find a NEXTSTEP viewer for the NASA cd-roms of Voyager 1 & 2. I believe someone has written one, but I can't find it. I wouldn't mind receiving it by NeXTmail either. Thanks a million in advance, Annard -- | Annard Brouwer | NeXTmail appreciated! Internet : rcbaab@urc.tue.nl Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!sparky!not-for-mail From: 71333.3015@compuserve.com (Thomas Droege) Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences,comp.org.cpsr.talk,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.soft-sys.sas,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4th annual Developers Competition and Conference Followup-To: poster Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:33:39 -0500 Organization: NandO.Net -- News & Observer Internet Public Access Lines: 80 Sender: rick@sparky.sterling.com Approved: rick@sparky.sterling.com Distribution: world Expires: 24 Sep 1994 8:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <2vhvs3$en2@sparky.sterling.com> Reply-To: 71333.3015@compuserve.com (Thomas Droege) NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.sterling.com Keywords: competition, database, RTP Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de news.announce.conferences:3478 comp.org.cpsr.talk:1192 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:37347 comp.soft-sys.sas:6444 comp.sys.next.software:11526 Droege Computing Services announces the fourth annual Developers Competition and Conference. Contestants in the 1994 competition will compete for gold medals in four categories: GUI/MultiMedia, Object Oriented, Client/Server, and Rapid Application Development. The conference/competition is planned for October 6-8th in Durham, North Carolina, home of the Research Triangle Park. The 1994 Developers Competition and Conference is the largest competition of its kind, and is expected to draw 120 teams from around the world. The 1993 Competition drew 87 teams from six different countries. The competition requires the contestants to develop a typical database application based on specifications detailing a real-life problem. A worthy organization that needs a software product is chosen each year as the client. This year the 1994 Developers Competition has selected Habitat for Humanity for the Triangle as the subject for the competition. In addition to building a needed software program for Habitat, the software developers will serve as volunteers and help to build most of a house over the two day conference. Habitat for Humanity is an ecumenical housing ministry that seeks to eliminate poverty-level housing from the world and make decent housing a matter of conscience and action. By providing opportunities for volunteers from a variety of socio-economic backgrounds to work together with families in need of housing, Habitat builds partnerships and a sense of community as well as houses. Previous clients have included a Child Protection Team, the Duke Primate Center, and the American Dance Festival. Each system is currently being used by the clients as originally designed. The applications will be judged by industry experts and the winner will receive $5,000. In addition, $500,000 of software products will be distributed among the contestants. On September 23, 1994 the specifications for the application will be emailed to the contestants. The contestants will have two weeks to develop their software program. On the date of the competition, October 7th, the contestants will receive changed specifications, reporting requirements, and the judging script. The rest of the day, the contestants will scurry to finish their program and prepare for judging. Joining Droege Computing Services this year is Advisor Publications, publisher of Access Advisor, dBASE Advisor, Clipper Advisor, FoxPro Advisor, and Data Based Advisor. They will be providing 38 sessions on database application development topics, including: Windows Development Interface Design Object-orientation Team Development Client/Server Development Case Studies Understanding APIs Database Design Xbase Development New Product Introductions Product Directions The competition's Internet sponsor this year is NandO.Net, the online service of The News & Observer Publishing Company. In the next few weeks NandO.Net will be posting further information on the World Wide Web at http://www.nando.net/ A zipped PC file of information can be downloaded by anonymous FTP from from the /pub/droege directory at ftp.nando.net: ftp://merlin.nando.net/pub/droege/dcmp94.zip Mac and UNIX versions of the information will be made available shortly. CompuServe is sponsoring an on-line version of the competition and is also providing information on-line. -- send an e-mail message to 71333,3015. Contact: Droege Computing Services 1816 Front Street, Suite 130 Durham, NC 27705 Email: 71333.3015@CompuServe.COM Voice: (919) 383-9749 Fax: (919) 382-7422 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!rosie.next.com!usenet From: sumana@nate.next.com (Sumana Srinivasan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mosaic Date: 7 Jul 1994 22:14:02 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <2vhunb$c8p@rosie.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nate.next.com Keywords: Mosaic, NCSA Is there a NeXT version of Mosaic available anywhere? If so could you please let me know? Thanks, Sumana Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!usenet From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Current WRI support? Date: 7 Jul 1994 23:11:58 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vi23u$qpm@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2vheg5$29s@balu.ixpoint.de> Reply-To: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: allanon.math.byu.edu Here is what I got on the matter from Dan Brown at WRI: >Thank you for contacting me again. Let me clarify the situation as it >stands now (things might have changed since last we communicated). >Right now, we have two separate binaries for NS. One for the Intel. One >for Motorola. As I understand it, in the next release (v.2.3) of >Mathematica, there will be one for both. > >As far as porting Mathematica to other platforms, we are still undecided. >From the people I've talked to about it (specifically for HP), we haven't >heard from HP as far as how they will support our development, market >analysis, etc. We have not ruled out the possibility at present. We just >don't have enough information to make a decision at this time. > >To answer your question, no, there are no *immediate* plans to port >Mathematica to NS for HP. E-mail your WRI rep and let them know that we want it. I don't think it will take that much for them to do the port. -- Paul M. Cardon President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager Math Department - Brigham Young University Member of the Open Buzzword Foundation (OBF) Standards Committee Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de!rrz.uni-koeln.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news From: oliver@pacc.khm.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Wrede) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb problems Date: 7 Jul 1994 22:43:08 GMT Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vi0dsINN1ogn@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Reply-To: owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.95.40.120 Hello, I use the OmniWeb 0.7.4 Software on my Intel NS3.2. But after a couple of tries a am very surprised, that it is not able to show inline images. Is it a bug or a missing feature? Oliver ------------ academy of media arts - cologne Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!overload.lbl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!unixhub!slacvx.slac.stanford.edu!fairfield From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: SUMMARY: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul7.164926.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Lines: 67 Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:49:26 GMT A few days ago, I wrote asking about GIF & JPEG, etc., viewers for NSI 3.2. I've had responses both in this group and in e-mail. The two most commonly recommended viewers were: ImageViewer - available from cs.orst.edu, in "/pub/next/binaries/graphics" as ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z and from nova.purdue.edu, in "/pub/next/3.0/bin" under the same name. Only binaries available, I believe it's built fat, certainly works on Intel... OmniImage & - available from ftp.omnigroup.com in OmniImageFilter /pub/software as OmniImage-3.0.1.pkg.tar and OmniImageFilter-3.0.pkg.tar The third solution was e-mailed to me by Bruce Gingery <lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu> who said: I use Preview.app and NEXT Mail.app as my .gif viewers of choice. I do, occasionally also use ImageViewer.app (on NEXTSTEP black) on the rare occasions when I want to rescale the image, i.e. to extract a portion using Grab.app After installing the ponzkanzer image filter library (available in SOURCE all over the net, and compiled at least for Black, and perhaps MAB by now as well, at the University of Munich NEXTSTEP ftp site (arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de 129.187.249.15)) just about all popular formats are rendered directly in any .rtfd format capable text objects as well as Preview.app, just by being present (or command- dragged onto Preview.app's icon). The Text object as of v3.x of NEXTSTEP will search for "Image filterable to", in addition to the native supported .tiff and .eps. jpeg, face, gif, pict, and comparable image formats "just work" with the filters installed. Thanks Bruce. :-) At this point, I haven't decided which I'll use, but it will probably be between OmniImage[Filter] and Bruce's solution. The latter is nice because the standard NeXT Preview.app will be automagically used, thus less confusion for my "boss", who is the primary user of the box. :-) Thanks to the following poeple who posted or e-mailed to me: Jason Bright <jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca> Eric Dew <edew@netcom.com> Bruce Gingery <lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu> Paul Kim <trout@netcom.com> Gary L. <stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu> Marc Majka <Marc_Majka@NeXT.COM> qShariff <qShariff@io.org> Eric Thompson <thompson@netcom.com> Greg Titus <toon@omnigroup.com> Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> -Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | No NeXTMAil, sorry... Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's... Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sun4nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!tudelft.nl!news.twi.tudelft.nl!dimitri From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <CsLH6n.5z7@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:56:47 GMT Lines: 35 In article <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com>, <amir@next.com> wrote: > >Let me step in and clarify one important point, which most people are >aware of but usually seems to get lost in SoftPC discussions: SoftPC for >NEXTSTEP/Intel is fundamentally quite different than SoftPC on NeXT 68K >computers (and all other ports of SoftPC for that matter). > >SoftPC for NEXTSTEP/Intel takes advantage of the native 486 processor to >dramatically improve performance. For those who have used both versions, >you will have noticed the difference immediately. The Intel version of >SoftPC yields emulation performance of a 486-class PC running native >DOS/Windows. No it doesn't! Ever tried to run a DOS program which uses the floating-point processor? It's worse than a 8088! Has anybody any clue? It seems as though SoftPC for Intel still _emulates_ the processor instead of using the native instructions. Also, Windows programs run much slower than native when not in a full-screen mode. Considered the fact that full-screen mode is only VGA and buggy (with certain video cards, screen blanks when you press Command-H or when you quit SoftPC) SoftPC is not delivering a usable 486 performance. ... deleted ... Dimitri Disclaimer: I only used the trial version of SoftPC shipped with NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel processors. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | NeGeN | Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!usenet From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTeX and Keyboard.app Date: 8 Jul 1994 00:52:03 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vi7vj$2tl@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Reply-To: jdevlin@umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11532 comp.sys.next.misc:14101 I am using Instant TeX 3.0 with NEXTSTEP 3.2 on black hardware. As root I used the bundled Keyboard.app (version 3) to remap the NextUSA keyboard so that Control-/ gives "\" and Alternate-/ gives "|". (That way I don't have to use the numeric keypad on the right.) This works for all users and for all apps *EXCEPT* TeXEdit. (In particular, it DOES work for both Edit and TeXWorks.) QUESTION: What can I do to make TeXEdit accept the remapped keyboard? I know that TeXEdit has a command equivalent for "\" in the Syntax menu and that "|" is available off the Palette, but I prefer my own keymappings. Solutions? Suggestions? Any help here would be much appreciated. THANKS. --- John Devlin Department of Philosophy University of Michigan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!ddsw1!news.cic.net!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!nugget.rmNUG.ORG!nugget.rmNUG.ORG!rlove From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group References: <1994Jul5.180149.611@KYnug.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 02:47:13 GMT Lines: 13 In article <1994Jul5.180149.611@KYnug.org> Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> writes: > Well, it is my understanding you need to go through Altsys's new sole > Virtuoso distributor, GS Corporation. I am sure Lorin will be more then Uh, who says GS is sole distributor? Is this fact? What about Alembic? They're still in business (they hired me 3 weeks ago) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove ----------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!news From: sumit@morrison.cas.american.edu (Sumit Virmani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mosaic for NeXT Date: 8 Jul 1994 01:50:01 GMT Organization: The American University Computing Center Lines: 6 Message-ID: <2vibc9$r2l@paladin.american.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morrison.cas.american.edu Does anybody know where I can find Mosaic for NeXTStep (not X NeXT). Please e-mail me if you are aware of any ftp sites. Thank you, Sumit. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.seanet.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!not-for-mail From: begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Date: 7 Jul 1994 19:28:50 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Lines: 17 Message-ID: <2vidl2$2jh@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <1994Jul5.180149.611@KYnug.org> <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost In article <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > >Uh, who says GS is sole distributor? Is this fact? What about >Alembic? They're still in business (they hired me 3 weeks ago) Well, according to the GS rep at the publishing conference at Expo, it is true and Lorin didn't dispute it so I assume it is true. -- Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.'' Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080 e-mail: sjkb@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee! Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!trib.apple.com!amd!netcomsv!news.omnigroup.com!news.omnigroup.com!not-for-mail From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:57:55 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 70 Message-ID: <2vi8aj$qvl@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: yucca.omnigroup.com fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: > I'm trying to locate image display software for NSI 3.2 (white). > Most immediately, I need a GIF viewer (any GIF viewer!). In the > back of my mind is a desire to also handle JPEG, and possibly PICT > (Macintosh) files, etc. I recommend OmniImage. It's fast, it's fun, and it was written by a totally great bunch of guys. It automatically converts to and from about 30 different image formats, including: Microsoft Windows BitMaP Microsoft Windows CURsor CompuServe Graphics Image Format Hierarchical Data Format Microsoft Windows ICOn Sun Icon and Cursor Amiga Image File Format JPEG Group's minimal format Apple Macintosh MacPaint Portable Bit Map ZSoft PC Paintbrush Portable Grayscale Map PIXAR PICture Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT picture Alias PIXel image Portable aNy Map Portable Pixel Map Sun RASterfile RenderMan Interface Bytestream Silicon Graphics RGB image Wavefront raster image Utah Run-Length-Encoded image Raw Portable Bit Map Raw Portable Grayscale Map Raw Portable aNy Map Raw Portable Pixel Map Synu image Sun TAAC Image File Format Truevision Targa image Khoros Visualization Image File Format Stardent AVS X image X11 Bit Map X11 Window Dump image Since it's implemented as a NEXTSTEP filter, you can easily use it from your own programs; basically, if you write [[[NXImage alloc] init] loadFromFile:"/tmp/aFileInAnyOfTheAboveFormats"]; You'll automatically invoke OmniImageFilter to convert the file into a valid NXImage. What could be cooler? There's also a little mini viewing program (OmniImage.app), with a Workspace inspector built into it (for viewing foreign image files from the Workspace). All this for the low, low price of free. ftp to ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software. Be sure to get both OmniImage packages. (BTW, users of OmniWeb 0.7.4 can now just highlight the above reference and hit command-shift-U to open it.) -Wil Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!spcuna!root From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: New Public Domain Internet Tools for NeXT Nntp-Posting-Host: net23.com References: <17093.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:07:46 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <CsLn8z.yA@spcuna.spc.edu> Lines: 22 : Chris: : If you want someone who both DESIRES and NEEDS those applications - Here is : oneparty who would love to have them... please let me know your progress... : Cheers, : Todd I also. If you need facilities to develop them you can have an account on our network, which runs NS 3.2/FIP Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!spcuna!root From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Nntp-Posting-Host: net23.com References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:12:46 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <CsLnHA.10t@spcuna.spc.edu> Lines: 23 blah blah blah blah blah. SoftPC is terrible, and does not do proper I/O with modems, etc... IT just sucks. But, the person who was running it on the "vannila system" made a mistake. Next does not support the Diamond Viper VLB card. It is EXTREMELY slow for graphics, and doesn't work properly, and that may have been your problem. BTW, I am sick of OmniWeb. It doesn't work, and I don't like the new link buttons, nor the product at all, but it is all their is, NOW. We need CloneSaic NOW Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!spcuna!root From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Nntp-Posting-Host: net23.com References: <8i4oiQa00iV346JEVs@andrew.cmu.edu> <CsJnE5.Fsv@ucdavis.edu> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:14:55 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <CsLnKw.125@spcuna.spc.edu> Lines: 14 Speaking of encryption, does any eleet haquer on here want to take it upon him or herself to build PGP into Mail.app, or eloquent.app, for one click PGP encryption? That would be TRUELY beautiful... Let me know if you need my facilities to develop it. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!spcuna!root From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: I want to buy NS/FIP software Nntp-Posting-Host: net23.com References: <2v9ap8$amc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <thompsonCsHCz2.At4@netcom.com> <2vgoig$rht@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <thompsonCsL2vv.L70@netcom.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:18:07 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <CsLnq8.14r@spcuna.spc.edu> Lines: 15 NEONE WANT TO FTP SUM ELEET NS/FIP WAREZ TO FTP.NET23.COM DANKA ELEET K-RAD DEWDS. :) Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!hookup!nic.hookup.net!digifix!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Comm program for Black Date: 8 Jul 1994 01:06:14 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vims6$c8c@digifix.digifix.com> References: <2vfku9$7q5@nwfocus.wa.com> Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com F. David Sinn writes > Could anyone suggest a good communications program for a Black NeXT > running NS3.0? > > On a similar note, is it possible to drive the serial ports at over > 19.2? (Like 38.4...) > I'm not sure if TipTop runs under NS 3.0, but its available as a demo on the usual FTP archives... Its very reasonably priced. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!dscomsa.desy.de!CERN.ch!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!buchanan From: buchanan@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES ROBERT BUCHANAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC and virtual serial connections Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:58:34 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University, Project EOS Lines: 18 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2vhq9q$rav@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pams04.math.ncsu.edu I am going to develop some server code to run under UNIX which will talk to client code on a PC. It would be easy if I could test this code with SoftPC on the same NeXT. It seems I should be able to use a null modem serial cable to connect one serial port (under control of NeXTSTEP) to the other (under control of SoftPC) and do my testing this way. Has anyone actually done this successfully? Better yet, is there a way in software to create a virtual serial link between NeXTSTEP and SoftPC? Please email your responses to: bob@buchanan.cssnet.sanford.nc.us Thanks in advance, Bob. -- Bob Buchanan 919-515-2382 (work) 919-776-7371 (home) buchanan@math.ncsu.edu Math Dept, NCSU Box 8205, Raleigh, NC 27695-8205 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!dscomsa.desy.de!CERN.ch!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!buchanan From: buchanan@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES ROBERT BUCHANAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Getting Librarian to use an index Date: 7 Jul 1994 21:07:25 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University, Project EOS Lines: 16 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2vhqqd$rjl@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pams04.math.ncsu.edu I have a /usr/local/man/ heierarchy on my machine in which I used ixbuild to create an index. Within Librarian, this directory has the index symbol next to its folder icon. However, when I do a keyword search of this target, Librarian still seems to be searching the files in the directory and not the index. How can I get Librarian to use the index and not search each file individually? Please email your responses to: bob@buchanan.cssnet.sanford.nc.us Thanks in advance, Bob. -- Bob Buchanan 919-515-2382 (work) 919-776-7371 (home) buchanan@math.ncsu.edu Math Dept, NCSU Box 8205, Raleigh, NC 27695-8205 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!scsing.switch.ch!yogi!lucy.ifi.unibas.ch!news Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Modula-2 on NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Jul8.073522.14949@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 07:35:22 GMT Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <2vhfm4$lsd@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Lines: 37 In article <2vhfm4$lsd@ftp-p.mccaw.com> writes: > Anybody know if there's a Modula-2 compiler for the NeXT available? > > Thanks, > --JK > _______________________________________________________________ > jon.kolyer@mccaw.com | This space intentionally > Paradigm Systems Corporation | left blank... > NeXTmail is cool. > > My thoughts, opinions, and experiences are my own. I tried to reply directly, but I keep getting the following error: Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Although the address is legal and verifies correctly!?! Unfortunately no, but we could have one (at least for black, if not for both motorola and intel) if we can dig up DEM50000.-- and supply a german company with one or two NEXTSTEP machines. I had asked Guenter Dotzel (100023.2527@CompuServe.COM), ModualWare GmbH, about a port of their Modula-2 compiler and his response was: (freely translated) if you order a compiler worth DEM50000.00 (approx. USD33000.00) and lend us a NeXT computer for a few months then we will deliver an MCS Modula-2 compiler for NeXtStep (68K) within a couple of months. So, I'm looking for a 'sponsor' ... -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sgiblab!gatekeeper.us.oracle.com!barrnet.net!infoserv!kent!kent From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: How can I delete automatically the old news ? Message-ID: <CsLooK.2sK@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Reply-To: kent@infoserv.com Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <CsBEHs.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:38:44 GMT Lines: 24 In article <CsBEHs.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: #I use CNews and News Grazer. #I know there is something that should automatically delete files that are #older than a certain amount of days. But it doesn't seem to work here ! #I believe that no one news was deleted and it starts to fill up my disk #for nothing. #How can I delete those files automatically ? #Is there a manual way to do this, like a programm that was included with #CNews ? Do you have the command "doexpire" in you cron job that polls your newsfeed? If the answer is yes your permissions on "/usr/spool/news" directory may be set wrong. I usually just type "doexpire" at the command line even though my cron job does it. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!gdt!bssdmw From: bssdmw@midge.bath.ac.uk (D M Webster) Subject: Re: Modula-2 on NeXT? Message-ID: <CsMA8o.ALH@midge.bath.ac.uk> Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK References: <2vhfm4$lsd@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:24:24 GMT Lines: 29 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11547 comp.sys.next.programmer:10741 In the referenced article, jon.kolyer@mccaw.com writes: >Anybody know if there's a Modula-2 compiler for the NeXT available? > >Thanks, >--JK >_______________________________________________________________ >jon.kolyer@mccaw.com | This space intentionally >Paradigm Systems Corporation | left blank... >NeXTmail is cool. > >My thoughts, opinions, and experiences are my own. Real Time Associates markets Extacy a Modula-2 and Oberon-2 to C translator which runs on the NeXT (black & white). They are about to release a major upgrade v2.0 which amoung other things supports the ISO-Modula-2 draft standard. You can contact Ian Marshall at RTA for more information Ian Marshall, Real Time Associates Ltd, Tel : (+44)(0)81 656 7333/4/5 Canning House, 59 Canning Road, Fax : (+44)(0)81 655 0401 Croydon,Surrey,CR0 6QF Email : ian@rtal.demon.co.uk UK Compuserve : 71333,2456 ______________________________________________________________________ David Webster Email : bssdmw@midge.bath.ac.uk School of Biology and Biochemistry Voice : (+44) (0)225 826826 X5411 University of Bath, Bath. UK. Fax : (+44) (0)225 826449 ______________________________________________________________________ Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!zib-berlin.de!ceres.fokus.gmd.de!nntp.gmd.de!erde!hoff From: hoff@werra.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Date: 8 Jul 1994 10:40:31 GMT Organization: German National Research Center for IT Lines: 19 Sender: hoff@werra (Holger Hoffstaette) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vjaev$drh@omega.gmd.de> References: <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> <2vi8aj$qvl@yucca.omnigroup.com> Reply-To: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de NNTP-Posting-Host: werra.darmstadt.gmd.de In article <2vi8aj$qvl@yucca.omnigroup.com>, wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >I recommend OmniImage. It's fast, it's fun, and it was written by a totally >great bunch of guys. While I completely agree with all of the above things, window dragging with OmniImage.app is, well, a real drag, so to speak. :-) Any chance of making the image window double buffered (maybe optionally) ? >What could be cooler? OmniImage rules! :) -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail] Smalltalker, NeXTstepper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen. "I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!news.rrz.uni-hamburg.de!rzdspc12!1hschulz From: 1hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeXView PROBLEM: What is the MFINPUTS environment variable?? Date: 8 Jul 94 12:26:51 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <1hschulz.773670411@rzdspc12> References: <2vc2e4$pp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2ve9iq$6af@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >If TeXview is started by the Workspace, it has no enviroment variables. >If you set MFINPUTS in a shell or in your .cshrc, it's just available to >that shell. TeXview in contrast has just the WorkSpace's enviroment and >this is empty. When it now calls MakeTeXPK to compute some fonts with mf, >mf uses its default paths, since it doesn't find the variable MFINPUTS. I don't agee, because I have some variables set in .cshrc and it works well. It might be because I start TeXview with Edit's Services/TeXview/LaTeX command, but in any case the online documentation (which is at home :-( ) has a paragraph about where these variables should be set. Regards, Heiko J. Schulz <1hschulz@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!cs.tu-berlin.de!marcel From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Date: 8 Jul 1994 13:44:10 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 11 Message-ID: <2vjl7a$arf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <1994Jul5.180149.611@KYnug.org> <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <2vidl2$2jh@zebu.abstractsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hivehom.cs.tu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) writes: >In article <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: >> >>Uh, who says GS is sole distributor? Is this fact? What about >>Alembic? They're still in business (they hired me 3 weeks ago) Well, Alembic can still sell Virtuoso, but they have to _buy_ it from GS. Marcel Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!news.omnigroup.com!news.omnigroup.com!not-for-mail From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb problems Date: 8 Jul 1994 04:13:23 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vjccj$t98@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <2vi0dsINN1ogn@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: yucca.omnigroup.com oliver@pacc.khm.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Wrede) writes: >I use the OmniWeb 0.7.4 Software on my Intel NS3.2. >But after a couple of tries a am very surprised, that it is not able to >show inline images. Is it a bug or a missing feature? Neither, it's a documentation problem. You need an image filter to view inline images. We provide one, at ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software. Grab OmniImage and OmniImageFilter. (If you have OmniWeb installed, you can hit command-shift-U on the address on the previous line. Well, two lines ago, now.) Lennart Lovstrand (all around good guy, hero of Mail users everywhere) also wrote one called ImageViewer, which is slightly different. (Better UI, not as many image types supported.) His is available on the standard archive sites. They are both free. -Wil Shipley Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!news.omnigroup.com!news.omnigroup.com!not-for-mail From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Date: 8 Jul 1994 04:17:46 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vjckr$41@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Jul7.164926.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: yucca.omnigroup.com fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: > At this point, I haven't decided which I'll use, but it will > probably be between OmniImage[Filter] and Bruce's solution. The > latter is nice because the standard NeXT Preview.app will be > automagically used, thus less confusion for my "boss", who is the > primary user of the box. :-) OmniImageFilter works with Preview and Mail and all those as well, just select a foreign file in the Workspace, hit command-2, and tell it to use Preview instead of OmniImage to actually open the images. Or, easier yet, just install OmniImageFilter.pkg, and leave OmniImage.pkg alone. The drawback to this approach is you won't get the cool-o Workspace inspector. OmniImage is nice because it's so darn quick to load, but you can pick your poison. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!gwdu03.gwdg.de!twetzel1 From: twetzel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Tim Wetzel ) Subject: Re: command line encryptor Message-ID: <IWFQBE0D@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: gwdu22-eth.gwdg.de Reply-To: twetzel1@gwdg.de Organization: GWDG, Goettingen X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] References: <CsLnKw.125@spcuna.spc.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 14:05:21 GMT Lines: 21 Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : Speaking of encryption, does any eleet haquer on here want to take it upon : him or herself to build PGP into Mail.app, or eloquent.app, for one click : PGP encryption? That would be TRUELY beautiful... Take a look at CryptorBundle.1.0.NI.b.tar.gz, available at ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (and others). It uses mostly the already built in Mail.app crypt interfaces (they are hidden by default, but the .nib files are already there), with PGP 2.2 as backend. It works quite nice but I personally don't have not much need for encryption. Timm Wetzel : Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider : razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area : Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul8.150901.23687@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vidl2$2jh@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:09:01 GMT Lines: 26 In article <2vidl2$2jh@zebu.abstractsoft.com> begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) writes: > In article <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > > > >Uh, who says GS is sole distributor? Is this fact? What about > >Alembic? They're still in business (they hired me 3 weeks ago) > > Well, according to the GS rep at the publishing conference at Expo, it > is true and Lorin didn't dispute it so I assume it is true. I heard very little disputes myself. In fact, it was more like a party if I remember correctly. I guess Alembic could still be a RESELLER, but you would be PURCHASING from GS CORP. and NOT from ALTSYS. Either that, or you are no longer a reseller. It is my best guess that the first is true; but, who knows. Maybe I will give Lorin another call. I do know we tried to get Virtuoso to put in the demo apps section of our TIFFany II CD-Rom and this needed to go through GS, NOT Altsys. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!edew From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Eyes.GTools Message-ID: <edewCsMrsx.AA2@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2vc2e4$pp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2ve9iq$6af@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <1hschulz.773670411@rzdspc12> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:43:44 GMT Lines: 30 Hello, I noticed in cs.orst.edu:/.../util, that there is Eyes.GTools.app. This is a nifty app (that I've seen on a Mac) which is basically a pair of eyes that follow your mouse cursor. It appears (I think) on the black bar of your current active window (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, I've been trying to uncompress the app, which is compressed by gzip. I tried gunzip, and other tricks that I know of (which is very limited), and all I get is a message saying the compressed file is not in the gnu zip format. BTW, Eyes is a GTools app, so one will also need the GTools.GTool app to install the Eyes.app. GTools.GTool is also gnu compressed, residing in the same directory. It was submitted there by Gerd someone (sorry if I forgot your name!) of Germany. I emailed him once and he politely replied that all I need is to get GTools.GTool up and running to install Eyes. The bottom line is: does anyone have the decompressible or decompressed GTools.GTool and Eyes.app files? IF so could you: a) send the whole thing to me (via email, of course) b) compress using standard compress (or NeXT compatible compress) and send that to me. I will be eternally grateful. EDEW (edew@netcom.com) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!trib.apple.com!amd!netcomsv!news.omnigroup.com!news.omnigroup.com!not-for-mail From: wjs@shark.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Date: 8 Jul 1994 08:05:19 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <2vjpvf$e6u@shark.omnigroup.com> References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> <CsLnHA.10t@spcuna.spc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.omnigroup.com root@net23.com (Operator) writes: >BTW, I am sick of OmniWeb. It doesn't work, and I don't like the new link >buttons, nor the product at all, but it is all their is, NOW. We need >CloneSaic NOW Can you be more specific? The only thing I can fix are the link buttons, which are already a preference in 0.7.4. And, I apologize that it crashes, but them's the breaks when you use beta software. Truth is, you aren't going to get a CloneSaic in a final release before OmniWeb becomes stable. -Wil Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!lll-winken!sowa From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeXView PROBLEM: What is the MFINPUTS environment variable?? Date: 08 Jul 1994 19:01:17 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Lines: 21 Message-ID: <SOWA.94Jul8120117@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <2vc2e4$pp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2ve9iq$6af@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <1hschulz.773670411@rzdspc12> NNTP-Posting-Host: amdew.llnl.gov In-reply-to: 1hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de's message of 8 Jul 94 12:26:51 GMT flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >> If TeXview is started by the Workspace, it has no enviroment >> variables. If you set MFINPUTS in a shell or in your .cshrc, it's >> just available to that shell. TeXview in contrast has just the >> WorkSpace's enviroment and this is empty. When it now calls MakeTeXPK >> to compute some fonts with mf, mf uses its default paths, since it >> doesn't find the variable MFINPUTS. >>>>> "Heiko" == Heiko Schulz <1hschulz@rzdspc12.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> writes: Heiko> I don't agee, because I have some variables set in .cshrc and it Heiko> works well. TeXview actually reads .cshrc on its own to find some environment variables. I'm not sure if MFINPUTS is one of them. If you are using a different shell you still need to put the TeX environment stuff in ~/.cshrc if you want TeXview to find it. -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul8.185629.1340@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vjl7a$arf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 18:56:29 GMT Lines: 46 In article <2vjl7a$arf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes: > begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) writes: > > >In article <1994Jul7.024713.4137@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > >> > >>Uh, who says GS is sole distributor? Is this fact? What about > >>Alembic? They're still in business (they hired me 3 weeks ago) > > Well, Alembic can still sell Virtuoso, but they have to _buy_ it > from GS. This is the same way Caffeine Software, developers of TIFFany, and benchMark Developments work together. Neither one of the two companies are large enough to handle all the functionality of development, testing, accounting, sales, marketing, customer support, etc., etc., for a commercial application. Hell, we can't even handle it with the two of us. :-) (There are only four of us, two with full time employment positions elsewhere and two full time students. But, all of the sales are channeled through bMD. There are other miscellaneous people, workers, temps involved as well to round that army up to a wopping 7 people). The only difference found in this situation is the fact that it has become the combined efforts of all four of us (Ralf, Stan, Kevin and myself). If you get rid of any one person, things fall apart very quickly. Funding for TIFFany comes from both companies in a rather weird way which probably none of the four of us can figure out. The obvious answer is from direct and indirect sales channels, but there are other funding methods as well. Sales, or no sales, are turned right around and used to fund the project. No salaries, no gummie bears or candy on this end. Just a bunch of school driven, long hour working, code writing students and moonlighters here. Luckily, we have not gone the venture capitalist route, nor do we ever plan to. This works great for now. But, I am sure GS and Altsys will find the need to be closer to each other in an order to stream line the operation. I am noticing this already. Especially since each one of the four here is in a different state or city now. (Lex., KY, Lou., KY, Stanford and Zurich) I guess this is a little different, since Altsys could probably continue with Virtuoso even if GS was gone. Is this true Lorin? -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!rosie.next.com!usenet From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTIME and AVI: Yes and No? Date: 8 Jul 1994 19:42:55 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vka7v$dnp@rosie.next.com> References: <2vhfvr$deh@network.ucsd.edu> Reply-To: Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: tophet.next.com Keywords: NEXTIME AVI In article <2vhfvr$deh@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > Can anyone explain this? > > NEXTIME checks itself in with Workspace as groovy for opening .avi movies. > But the application doesn't appear to want to open or play them. > > What gives? It's a bug. The app claims the 'mov', 'movie', and 'avi' suffixes, but there is no NTFileParser component for AVI files in the product. (or in my office, for that matter. We haven't have a chance to write one.) Sorry for the inconvenience. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. "Mommy! Mommy! I flamed and flamed, but the mean old engineer was on vacation!" Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!lima.eecs.umich.edu!hyongsop From: hyongsop@lima.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol) Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:03:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vkevm$dlh@zip.eecs.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lima.eecs.umich.edu Hi, Does any of you what PPP is exactly and where I can find a version for NeXTSTEP for PCs? I heard that a company called Morning Star has written a version for NeXTs. Does any of you know how to contact this company? Thanks in advance, --Hyong Shim (hyongsop@engin.umich.edu) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet From: luba@franklin.bchs.uh.edu (luba airapetova) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT - SPSS for NeXTSTEP? Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:01:48 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 23 Message-ID: <2vkers$2so@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> NNTP-Posting-Host: franklin.bchs.uh.edu In article <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. What > statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise I'll save the > replies and answer the question next time it is asked. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) > BIX: rlove > ----------------------------------------------------------------- To followup - does the SPSS package available for the NeXT? Please email. Luba ----------------------------------------- Lubov K. Airapetova Email: luba@dna.bchs.uh.edu Office Location: HSC, room 423 4800 Calhoun Rd. Houston, TX, 77204-5934 ----------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!convex!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!tssnext!news From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul8.134642.6748@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Reply-To: Bruce Gingery <lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu> Organization: Total System Software References: <edewCsKx7B.M8A@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:46:42 GMT Lines: 44 In article <edewCsKx7B.M8A@netcom.com> edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) writes: ~> In article <2veggc$m2h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> pcu@umich.edu writes: ~> >In article <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> ~> >fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: ~> >> I'm trying to locate image display software for NSI 3.2 (white). ~> >> Most immediately, I need a GIF viewer (any GIF viewer!)... ~> > I'm not sure if an NS/Intel version exists, but ImageViewer ~> > handles just about every file type. It was written by an ~> > engineer at NeXT, so I might try ftp.next.com when looking for it. ~> ~> I picked up a freeware from ftping to cc.sonata.purdue.edu, anonymous ~> ftp, cd /pub/next/???/3.0 ~> ~> I think cs.orst.edu also has a version of ImageViewer.app. Very ~> powerful app. In addtion to viewing practically everything (jpg, ~> gif, tiff, eps, etc.) it can change format from one to another ~> (that is, from a compatible one to another). Has anyone ported the Ponzkanzer filters to NEXTSTEP-White or -Green, yet? The Munich ftp site had a black-only binary distriubution which when properly installed causes all of these images to "just work" in Mail.app, Edit.app (rtfd's), Preview.app, IconBuilder.app, and the like for import as .tiff. For the text uses, a .gif paste-in images in-situ, just like .eps and .tiff's do in the standard NEXTSTEP distrubtion. Also in the /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/ImageFilter/ is an abbreviated version of this -- only working with Amiga/Electronic Arts iff files, on which standard the Apple aiff and Windows (or was it Presentation Manager) <something> iff files are also based. It's nice to receive an occasional .gif, pict, or whatever in NeXT-mail(tm) and not have to even click it to view it. It's just there! Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu <- preferred address NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!tssnext!news From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: downloading with tip and rz Message-ID: <1994Jul8.133742.6687@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Reply-To: Bruce Gingery <lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu> Organization: Total System Software References: <2vg8ff$lju@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:37:42 GMT Lines: 33 In article <2vg8ff$lju@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch (Daniel Stefan Decasper) writes: ~> In article <1994Jul6.181039.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>, ~> <sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: ~> >How can I download files via modem using tip and rz? ~> - First, make sure that the rz and sz binaries are in a known path. ~> - Connect with tip. ~> - When you want to download, type sz filename on the remote machine ~> - press ~$ on the NeXT ~> - type rz -1 [can't remember what the -1 was good for but use it ~> - anyway.. ;-)] ~> ~> Should work this way. If you want to upload, use sz -1 filename on ~> the NeXT. The -1 was added to the years-old Public Domain distribution of rZsZ.zoo as a hack to force the OPEN to use file descriptor #1 (stdout) as the open device instead of /dev/tty. Note that the v3.34, Mar'94 distribution of Z-Modem by Chuck Foresburg has both been set to NOT recognize the -1 switch, nor even redirected input/output, and also is distributed with a license which specifically forbids using it "under" a terminal program -- which means Tip, Kermit... etc. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author. bruce@TotSysSoft.com lcbginge@antelope.wcc.edu <- preferred address NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!gaia From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PasteUp 2.5 Looks Good Date: 9 Jul 1994 01:34:52 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 16 Message-ID: <2vkurs$o1m@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rac3.wam.umd.edu Just FYI, PasteUp 2.5 (which runs on Intel) just arrived and looks very good. It's usable now! Hasn't crashed once yet! Unfortunately I'm going to have to jettison this desktop system soon for a notebook, so if anyone wants an unregistered PasteUp 2.5, brand new, send offer. I have the edu license, which means that if you're not eligible, you have to pay Anderson Financial teh difference, according to legalese on the package. Robert de Lucca gaia@wam.umd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!uunet!swissbank!root From: pelletk@il.us.swissbank.com (Ken Pelletier) Subject: Problem posting from NewsGrazer. Message-ID: <1994Jul8.205812.11634@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: black_beth Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 20:58:12 GMT Lines: 11 Whenever I try to post to any group, NG gives me the following error: "Posting failed: 437 Missing "Path" header" I'm connecting to a news server over SLIP using NNTP, so I'm not running news anywhere on my local net. I had been able to post until very recently, and I haven't (knowingly) changed anything with NG or my network configuration. Thanks for any help. - Ken (ken@nika.com) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!vampir.hnv.icem.de!euler!js From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Comm program for Black Message-ID: <CsKu0x.1s7@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2vfku9$7q5@nwfocus.wa.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:36:32 GMT Lines: 17 In article <2vfku9$7q5@nwfocus.wa.com> dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn) writes: > Could anyone suggest a good communications program for a Black NeXT > running NS3.0? What do you have in mind? Kermit is not good enough? > On a similar note, is it possible to drive the serial ports at over > 19.2? (Like 38.4...) Sure, with hardware flow control 38400 works fine for me on same config. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee? Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!usenet From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New Public Domain Internet Tools for NeXT Date: 9 Jul 1994 14:39:51 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <2vmcrn$8v5@news1.digex.net> References: <1994Jul8.073335.14878@urz.unibas.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: clubside.digex.net In article <1994Jul8.073335.14878@urz.unibas.ch> writes: > One more to pipe in. I'm desperate about that kind of software. I'd > rather have it yesterday than tomorrow and I'm also prepared to help and > even pay if neccessary. Well, as I said, I have features lists and a plan--now you must just face the fact that I'm a NeXTSTEP newbie. However, there's never a better way to learn something than when there's a mission. I have a big deadline for some software that Time-Warner is coming to see at the end of the month, and once I've finished that, I'll barrel through the MUD Client, which is the easiest and could serve as a foundation for all client-server tasks (telnet). Next will be the newsreader... give ma a couple of weeks, and I'll post as I go. With the source lying around, some other enterprising youths may contribute mightily. Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack' Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pictures in OmniWeb Date: 9 Jul 1994 20:34:01 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <2vn1jp$sl1@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: bears.stanford.edu I hate to post this question again, because I distinctly remember seeing threads on this subject before, but HOW do I get OmniWeb to use its own OmniImage service and application to display pictures? Using the latest stuff from ftp.omnigroup.com, I can get OmniWeb to display pictures using ImageViewer, but not OmniImage. I'm using NS3.1 on Motorola. I thought previous answers involved ownership of the service files, but I don't see anything wrong. A note to the Omni people: on ftp.omnigroup.com, the OmniImage file is called a .tar but I think it should be named .tar.gz. Thanks. -jamey. -- *=============Stanford=student,=Cal=Fan.==Go=Bears.=============* James Nielsen )|( Home: (415) 497-9668 nielsen@leland.stanford.edu (o o) Office: (415) 497-9668 *===========================ooO-(_)-Ooo=========================* Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music Kit on CD. Date: 9 Jul 1994 16:39:21 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 7 Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407092134.AA19558@klingon.digicon-hou.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.cs.utexas.edu If I remember right, MusicKit 4.0 is now available. I was wondering if anyone makes this available on a CD. Thanks Tom Tschetter tsch@digicon-hou.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: bush@gsbrxb.uchicago.edu (Robert Bushman) Subject: Getting OmniWeb 7.3 to load Message-ID: <1994Jul9.213816.8317@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 21:38:16 GMT Lines: 3 I am only able to load OmniWeb 7.3 if I am logged in as root. Otherwise, it begins to load then just aborts. Does anybody have any ideas on what the problem might be and how to resolve it? I am running under NS 3.0. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!uchinews!news From: bush@gsbrxb.uchicago.edu (Robert Bushman) Subject: Re: Getting OmniWeb 7.3 to load Message-ID: <1994Jul10.011152.15009@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <1994Jul9.213816.8317@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 01:11:52 GMT Lines: 9 In article <1994Jul9.213816.8317@midway.uchicago.edu> bush@gsbrxb.uchicago.edu (Robert Bushman) writes: > I am only able to load OmniWeb 7.3 if I am logged in as root. Otherwise, > it begins to load then just aborts. Does anybody have any ideas on what > the problem might be and how to resolve it? I am running under NS 3.0. I apologize if you wasted your time reading this. The problem was that there was no starting page specified for OmniWeb in my personal directory. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!jmillr From: jmillr@umich.edu (john miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 3.0 Date: 10 Jul 1994 03:31:02 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 8 Message-ID: <2vnq1m$e81@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CsHnFB.GJI@ucdavis.edu> <1994Jul6.014258.2416@cs.rit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: robotron.rs.itd.umich.edu I don't think it is accurate to say that the Daydream box which attaches to the DSP port _emulates_ the MAC OS. -- * * * ** * *** * * * * * * * * * * * * Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!bacchus!eric From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul10.014513.5756@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Reply-To: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <1994Jul7.164926.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 01:45:13 GMT Lines: 87 fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: > A few days ago, I wrote asking about GIF & JPEG, etc., viewers > for NSI 3.2. I've had responses both in this group and in e-mail. > > The two most commonly recommended viewers were: > > ImageViewer - available from cs.orst.edu, in > "/pub/next/binaries/graphics" as > ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z > and from nova.purdue.edu, in > "/pub/next/3.0/bin" under the same name. > Only binaries available, I believe it's > built fat, certainly works on Intel... > > OmniImage & - available from ftp.omnigroup.com in > OmniImageFilter /pub/software as OmniImage-3.0.1.pkg.tar > and OmniImageFilter-3.0.pkg.tar > Our commercial applications, Pixel Magician and Image Agent, also support image viewing. Pixel Magician is a full featured image conversion application and Image Agent is an image filter service ( Image Agent is included free with our Pixel Magician application ). Pixel Magician was designed with an emphasis on converting images while maintaining and preserving image fidelity. Because of this design consideration, Pixel Magician will, in some cases, take longer to open images than other dedicated image viewers. Even though you can only see 72 DPI( this obviously varies on different displays ) on the screen, when opening images that have DPI's other than 72, Pixel Magician will preserve all the image data in an offscreen memory cache (double buffering). This ensures that a) none of the image data will be lost when saving and converting and b) the user can scroll around the entire image more quickly. Also, Pixel Magician, by default, provides a WYSIWIG image display, e.g.,a 300 dpi image is shown at actual size on screen. If the user is only interested in image viewing, Pixel Magician can be setup, through the preferences, to always display images at 72 dpi, e.g., discard the redundant data ( that cannot be shown on screen ) to speed up image viewing. For those users that simply want a fast image viewer, the programs mentioned above are more than adequate. Users who want both image viewing and finer control over image conversions/image data should consider using Pixel Magician. Some of the features include: --> Batch image conversion/viewing. Any parameter can be applied during batch processing, e.g., scaling, quantizing, rotating etc etc. --> Variable/independent vertical and horizontal image resolutions. --> Precise scaling/resampling using pixels, percents, points, picas, centimeters and inches. --> Flexible output options. Panels are provided for specifying format specific options, e.g., compression, bit order, alpha channel removal, LZW encoding etc etc. --> Color quantization and dithering. --> Resolution independent PostScript to Raster conversions. --> Miniwindow thumbnails. --> Polished, easy to use interface. --> Complete hardcopy manual ( 140 pages ). Hypertext version of manual available on-line. Demo versions are available from: Location: cs.orst.edu:pub/next/demos/graphics Files: PixelMagician1.4b.MAB.compressed ImageAgent1.2b.MAB.compressed Eric Bloom Bacchus, Inc. eric@bacchus.com ( NEXTMAIL ) 310 820-9145 310 820-5930 ( fax )
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting OmniWeb 7.3 to load Date: 9 Jul 1994 21:31:46 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <2vntji$6lh@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Jul9.213816.8317@midway.uchicago.edu> bush@gsbrxb.uchicago.edu (Robert Bushman) writes: >I am only able to load OmniWeb 7.3 if I am logged in as root. Otherwise, >it begins to load then just aborts. Does anybody have any ideas on what >the problem might be and how to resolve it? I am running under NS 3.0. 1) There might be screwed up permissions on the OmniWeb app. 2) You might have some defaults in your account, but not root, that are horking up OmniWeb. We changed defaults all around.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Re: SoftPC 3.0 Message-ID: <CsppnG.Esr@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA References: <CsHnFB.GJI@ucdavis.edu> <1994Jul6.014258.2416@cs.rit.edu> <2vnq1m$e81@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 06:50:04 GMT My understanding is that the Daydream provides via the DSP access to the Apple ROMS and I guess some sort of patched up Apple kernel. All together, you get sort of a Mac. I do not claim to understand it all but it does work AND, SoftPC for the Mac works under it. Bests, David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Wanted NeXTBus Developer Kit Message-ID: <Cspq7s.F1M@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Will Pay for it Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 07:02:16 GMT Wanted to Buy - NeXTBus Developer Kit or NBIC Developer Kit or whatever it is called. If you have it to sell, then you know what I am looking for. Thanks, David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Message-ID: <bchin.773777363@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 18:09:23 GMT amir@next.com writes: >The NeXT computer (68K) version completely emulates the Intel 286 in >software, and yields 286-class performance. That version can not be any >faster than it is today. I didn't think that SoftPC for NeXT (m68k) used the interceptor port stuff in 3.2. Also, since Insignia has source to MS-Windows, they could port more of it into "native" code. In short, I think Insignia *could* make SoftPC for NeXT faster, but it isn't worth it to them. As for SoftPC for NEXTSTEP/Intel, there are several areas they can/should be working on: * more native code under MS-Windows a la WABI/WINE * get file locking to work over the network (resort to lock files if necessary) and/or beat on NeXT to support lockd and file locking over NFS * rootless operation; I don't really care to boot a DOS machine, I just need to be able to run some DOS/Windows apps. * I'm not sure how memory allocation works in SoftPC, but it seems that it locks down memory equivalent to the memory size of the virtual PC. Maybe intercepting XMS allocation calls to only allocate when needed, and use the memory setting as just a boundary (as a preference) * open API to write NS device drivers that can function in the emulated environment (like sound) I'm hoping that between dosemu and wine, there'll be more competition in this realm (which is good for all parties involved). -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT In-Reply-To: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org's message of Sat, 2 Jul 1994 21:49:42 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Jul10084209@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 15:42:09 GMT >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 1994 21:49:42 GMT, rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) said: In article <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) writes: > I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. > What statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise > I'll save the replies and answer the question next time it is asked. For histogramming viewing and plotting, try HippoDraw. Available at the NeXT archive sites. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2 Date: 10 Jul 1994 18:22:17 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Message-ID: <2vpe8p$odf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <1994Jul10.014513.5756@bacchus.com> In article <1994Jul10.014513.5756@bacchus.com> bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) writes: > fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: > > A few days ago, I wrote asking about GIF & JPEG, etc., viewers > > for NSI 3.2. I've had responses both in this group and in e-mail. > > > > The two most commonly recommended viewers were: > > > > ImageViewer - available from cs.orst.edu, in > > "/pub/next/binaries/graphics" as > > ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z > > and from nova.purdue.edu, in > > "/pub/next/3.0/bin" under the same name. > > Only binaries available, I believe it's > > built fat, certainly works on Intel... > > > > OmniImage & - available from ftp.omnigroup.com in > > OmniImageFilter /pub/software as OmniImage-3.0.1.pkg.tar > > and OmniImageFilter-3.0.pkg.tar > > > > Our commercial applications, Pixel Magician and Image Agent, also > support image viewing. Pixel Magician is a full featured image conversion > application and Image Agent is an image filter service ( Image Agent is > included free with our Pixel Magician application ). > A note on Pixel Magician, I've found it able to open and image correctly some file formats that the others can not, such as TIFF images with 8bit Class P formats produced in PV-WAVE. -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail ok!
From: hyongsop@delhi.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dell Date: 10 Jul 1994 22:18:39 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vps3v$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Hi, Does any of you know wheter Dell OmniPlex P60, a Pentium machine, runs NeXTSTEP without a glitch? Dell claims so, but it's not listed as one of the certified systems by NeXT. Thanks, --Hyong Shim (hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
From: hyongsop@delhi.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP Date: 10 Jul 1994 22:24:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vpsfd$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Hi, First, I'd like to thank all of you for your responses to my earlier post about PPP and Morning Star. Several of the responses mentioned that I can use SLIP in place of PPP and that NeXT provides a version of SLIP called, "transslip," in NeXTSTEP. Does any of you know about "transslip," i.e. where I can find it?, and the difference between SLIP and PPP and whether PPP servers would support SLIP? Thanks in advance, --Hyong Shim (hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: Music Kit on CD. Message-ID: <Csqv7L.E7@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <9407092134.AA19558@klingon.digicon-hou.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 21:47:45 GMT In article <9407092134.AA19558@klingon.digicon-hou.com> tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) writes: > If I remember right, MusicKit 4.0 is now available. > I was wondering if anyone makes this available on a CD. > Both packages (binary and source) are available on The Fatted Calf CD. It's sold by Alembic for roughly $30. It also contains about a dozen DSP related programs (out of the 380 or so Fat apps and 120 or so Triple Fat applications for HP, and the 380 NeXTSTEP fonts.) Alembic Systems 800/452-7608 303/799-6223 303/799-1435 Fax -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VirtSpace Date: 8 Jul 1994 23:03:07 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vklvb$271s@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Hi all, I'd like to purchase VirtSpace. I know that a new group is distributing them. It was in comp.sys.next.annouce but I lost the notice. ( &*%^&$^ reinstall!! ) Could someone help me out? Thanks! Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o| - Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| tgall@online.apple.com (home - Newton Mail) |o|
From: gva@access3.digex.net (Global Virtual Access) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TCL/Expect or TK Date: 10 Jul 1994 22:51:34 -0400 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <2vqc3m$rt5@access3.digex.net> Does anyone know where I can get a version of tcl/expect for the NeXT? Or better yet, TCL/TK? I do some programming in these languages on Suns and I'd like to port some of this code to the next if possible. Please respond by e-mail, as i don't always read this newsgroup. (I try, but it piles up!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Emacs for NS Question; How to make it X client also Message-ID: <FXARS.94Jul10203715@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 04:37:15 GMT I'm not able to make our Emacs for NS an X client. Is there a way to do it? Are there so more files to download? === Al
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:51:43 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2vrtav$2i2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> <CsLnHA.10t@spcuna.spc.edu> Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : blah blah blah blah blah. : SoftPC is terrible, and does not do proper I/O with modems, etc... : IT just sucks. : But, the person who was running it on the "vannila system" made a mistake. : Next does not support the Diamond Viper VLB card. It is EXTREMELY slow : for graphics, and doesn't work properly, and that may have been your problem. Nice try. NeXT does indeed support the Diamond Viper VLB very well indeed (I'm personaly using it and am quite happy). It is neither slow nor does it work improperly--it's fairly fast, actually. The Diamond Viper VLB driver from NeXT is the WeitekP9000 driver, available on current NS systems and through NeXTanswers. Take a look at your docs next time before you claim something as absurd as the above. : BTW, I am sick of OmniWeb. It doesn't work, and I don't like the new link : buttons, nor the product at all, but it is all their is, NOW. We need : CloneSaic NOW Yuck. Mosaic is nasty. I like the new OmniWeb, though it still bombs too much for my taste, has Really Nasty(tm) colors for already-been-there links, no way to change colors (as far as I can tell), and for some reason puts links both in front and behind the link phrase, depending on its parse of the text, I guess. Weird. Still, a major improvement. Thanks for moving the browsers off the main window! That was my #1 peeve. I can't say the same for Mosaic: it's a limited program with little consideration to user interface to be sure. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Date: 11 Jul 1994 17:02:25 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vrtv1$pg8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Jul6.043321.8844@bMD.com> In article <1994Jul6.043321.8844@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > In article <2vcbl6$6us@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu > (Paul Cardon) writes: > > In article <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu > > (Sean O. Luke) writes: > > After finally meeting him at EXPO, I have to say that he would make one > > very unattractive woman. Remember the Bud Light ladies night commercial? > > :-) I would definitely consider putting him in goal on a lacrosse team > > though if he can handle the stick. It takes a good stocky guy who can > > move. (Ever played lacrosse Lorin?) > > These NeXT newsgroups are getting great! Nose level is kinda high, but, I > about busted a gut picturing Lorin dressed up as a women in one of the Bud > Light commericals. Gimma a ring if you get any offers Lorin, I wanna be > there for the filming. > Filming, hell, gimme a videotape of the Stone Rave with Lorin in it and I'll use a certain highly-regarded bit-twiddling app to make the improbable visible! :-) :-) -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: Re: Emacs for NS Question; How to make it X client also Message-ID: <mreynoldCssBq4.Lo8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <FXARS.94Jul10203715@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:42:03 GMT In article <FXARS.94Jul10203715@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>, Al Sparks <fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> wrote: >I'm not able to make our Emacs for NS an X client. Is there a way to >do it? Are there so more files to download? === Al You need the Emacs for NS source. You have run configure and tell it what display types you want emacs to handle. Look at the README and INSTALL type files at the source root directory, one of theses files tells you almost everything you need to know. Then look at (I think) etc/MACHINES and find the section on NeXT machines...here you'll find the parameter to feed configure to handle NS displays. Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds Spectrum HoloByte W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com Cartridge Division H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) Subject: Re: Emacs for NS Question; How to make it X client also Message-ID: <CssC3F.7wp@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia References: <FXARS.94Jul10203715@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:50:03 GMT In article <FXARS.94Jul10203715@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu>, Al Sparks <fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu> wrote: >I'm not able to make our Emacs for NS an X client. Is there a way to >do it? Are there so more files to download? === Al Nope. Just run "./configure --with-x --with-ns". Of course, you need to have the X libraries and include files installed, but it works just fine with the latest X11R5 Mouse-X (available from cs.orst.edu:/pub/XNeXT). Dave -- David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia NeXTmail ok
From: dekorte@scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting OmniWeb 7.3 to load Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:14:14 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <2vs5m6$gdl@mailer.fsu.edu> References: <2vntji$6lh@yucca.omnigroup.com> William Shipley writes > bush@gsbrxb.uchicago.edu (Robert Bushman) writes: > > >I am only able to load OmniWeb 7.3 if I am logged in as root. > >Otherwise, > >it begins to load then just aborts. I have the same problem. I tried re-installing it and now it runs but won't open pictures unless I'm root. Steve Dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: killeri@wayne.polis (Ivo Killer, Open Systems AG) Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT - SPSS Message-ID: <1994Jul11.080137.11040@roche.com> Sender: news@roche.com (USENET News System) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. References: <2vkers$2so@masala.cc.uh.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 08:01:37 GMT In article 2so@masala.cc.uh.edu, luba@franklin.bchs.uh.edu (luba airapetova) writes: > >To followup - does the SPSS package available for the NeXT? > >Please email. > >Luba > I have not heard about SPSS. But SAS was (at least 1/2 year ago) available. SAS is the much more powerful package. -ivo
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend troubles Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:16:28 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vs9as$9e9@shiva.UU.NET> References: <2us03b$7ar@shiva.uu.net> <2utndr$b5u@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <2uui35$pdj@oclc.org> In article <2uui35$pdj@oclc.org>, rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) writes: >: I'm using it on a non turbo color station (NS 3.2) and it works great ! >: Not much help, I know.... > >It works very well on my mono NeXTstation (3.2) - for some real fun, >click on the graphic in the Info panel.... >Robin >-- >Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section >OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 >6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 >rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215 This is most puzzling. Myself and one other guy are the only folks that are seeing this problem. I spoke with the author as well and he doesn't know why it would happen either. I will recompile and see if I can capture the exact machine state when the thing starts a'spinning. Maybe I have something running in the background it doesn't like... ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Date: 11 Jul 1994 21:45:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi Fellows ! I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through info@ciusa.com Do you know if they are still alive ? Best regards, - Eric Opinion expressed is my own ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. (NeXTMail welcome !) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics 405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: Looking for WetPaint and Transfer (Pinnacle Research) Message-ID: <1994Jul11.205243.19225@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:52:43 GMT In article <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl> herman@homerus (Herman G. Poorthuis) writes: > Hello there, > > Could anyone tell me how to get WetPaint and Transfer. My mail to Pinnacle > Research hasn't been answered untill now. I think there was a message > about WetPaint some time ago but I cannot find it. > > thanks for your help > WetPaint is now a Lighthouse Design product. You can get info by emailing: wetpaint@lighthouse.com I don't know about Transfer. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: masa@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr M Takatsuka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail & term Date: 12 Jul 94 10:20:49 Organization: Dept. of Electrical & Computer Systems Engigeeirng, Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MASA.94Jul12102049@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> Hello, I use OmniWeb & NewsGather with term and I'd like to use Mail.app with term? Does anyone know how to use(send / recieve mail)Mail.app with term? If so, could you please let me know. Thank you, Masa -- ============================================================================ Masahiro Takatsuka (MASA) e-mail: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(non-NeXTmail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent Robotics Research Center :OzNeXT :xxxxxx Eng. Building 6, Room No. G04 :NeXus :92-00226 Department of Electrical & :CompuServe :71661,1331 Computer Systems Engineering :Nifty-serve :MGG1331 Monash University : Wellington Rd., Clayton : Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA : ============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: GhostScript on NS/I 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jul11.222102.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 03:21:02 GMT Has anyone got GhostScript running on NS 3.2 Intel? I've downloaded the source (2.5.2) but I'm having difficulty compiling (various errors) Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Internet Mail Only
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: perl Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:41:26 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <2vt3d6$ra0@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Does anyone know what the latest version of perl is that is running on the NeXT (3.0) and where i might get it via FTP. kevin parks E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: ASTROLOGY-app wanted!! Message-ID: <Csq7JI.tr@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:16:29 GMT Hello, is anybody out there, who also thinks like me and looks for a fine ASTROLOGY-app? Is there anybody who knows something about it or write such a software? It would be great!!! Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <edewCstCrw.M2t@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 06:02:20 GMT In article <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) writes: >Hi Fellows ! > >I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their >softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through >info@ciusa.com > >Do you know if they are still alive ? > >Best regards, > > - Eric >Opinion expressed is my own ! >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu >NeXT sys. admin. (NeXTMail welcome !) >University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics >405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA >Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I called them just recently to purchase DateWise. They're still alive, but their only method of contact, it seems (besides s-mail) is the phone: 612-822-1604. I haven't yet received the app, but my credit card is debited for $45 from them... EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Problems w/ OmniImage.app Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 06:18:38 GMT Message-ID: <CstDJ4.Bt@spcuna.spc.edu> Why when I click on a .gif file, with OmniImage.app selected as my default .gif viewer, does OmniImage load ImageViewer.app?? All other file formats work fine with ONLY OmniImage, but when I click on .gif, OmniImage spawns ImageViewer.app HELP!!!! Mail or post -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software From: paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick) Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul11.182752.22070@cgh.cgh.com> Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads Organization: Chimitt Gilman Homchick, Inc. References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> <CsH85G.39L@borland.com> <1994Jul6.170542.3480@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> <1994Jul7.193104.24204@chemabs.uucp> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 18:27:52 GMT In article <1994Jul7.193104.24204@chemabs.uucp>, Regarding POSIX and TRN 3.5, Larry W. Virden <lvirden@cas.org> wrote: > Should the default for programs like this be to look for POSIX first, and > then, if it can't find that, look for BSD (or perhaps System V, then BSD)? Perhaps this is how it should be, but if you use the POSIX header and link in the POSIX library, TRN 3.5 doesn't work. Either Nextstep is broken, the Nextstop library is broken or trn is broken. I am sort of curious as to which it is. -- Paul Homchick :UUCP dsinc!cgh!paul Chimitt Gilman Homchick, Inc. : pitt!amanue!-/ 1111 West DeKalb Pike, Suite 101 :Internet paul@cgh.com Wayne, PA 19087-2179 :Sometimes/Internet phomchic@wpo.hcc.com
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: perl Date: 12 Jul 1994 07:32:19 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <2vtgu3$7k4@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de In article <2vt3d6$ra0@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>, staff music <kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> wrote: >Does anyone know what the latest version of perl is that is running >on the NeXT (3.0) and where i might get it via FTP. > The latest version perl5alpha11, and there is a patch around for 11a, that is important for the NeXT. The NeXT port is optimized for NS3.2, and you are welcome to report problems with 3.0 (direct to me, or to comp.lang.perl). I would expect, the problems are heavy, but please try it. Places to look for perl are ftp.cis.ufl.edu [198.17.47.33] /pub/perl/src/5.0/ ftp.metronet.com [192.245.137.1] /pub/perl/source/ wpi.wpi.edu [?] /perl5 (?) Don't be afraid of alpha code, perl4 context is very stable already. Recent bug reports only cover new issues. But if the problems with your 3.0 version of NS are too difficult to master, ask archie for perl-4.036. --andreas
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for WetPaint and Transfer (Pinnacle Research) Date: 12 Jul 1994 13:48:38 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2vu6vm$paq@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <1994Jul11.205243.19225@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> In article <1994Jul11.205243.19225@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > In article <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl> herman@homerus (Herman G. Poorthuis) > writes: > > Hello there, > > > > Could anyone tell me how to get WetPaint and Transfer. My mail to Pinnacle A few months ago the guy who developed Transfer, Ralph Zazula, went to work for NeXT and a company called Hitower took over selling the product. Transfer works great for getting new next or regular mail between work and home or for getting files from work to home (provided they are not too big i.e. < 3 MB, depending on the quality of your phone lines). It is not so great when trying to get archived mail from mailboxes. Here is the contact for transfer. Daniel E. Marusich -------------------------- HIGH TOWER PRODUCTIONS -------------------------- maru@hitower.com if this address doesnt work try cmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (602) 795-3309 -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems w/ OmniImage.app Date: 12 Jul 1994 15:49:00 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2vue1c$ei2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CstDJ4.Bt@spcuna.spc.edu> In article <CstDJ4.Bt@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > Why when I click on a .gif file, with OmniImage.app selected as my default > .gif viewer, does OmniImage load ImageViewer.app?? > > All other file formats work fine with ONLY OmniImage, but when I click on > .gif, OmniImage spawns ImageViewer.app > Well, OmniImage uses whatever filter services you happen to have available and if there is more than one service that does the same thing, you'll get one of them (semi-) randomly. You've managed to get OmniImage to use OmniImageFilter for most filtering, but not for .GIF->.TIFF. If you want to keep ImageViewer from doing this you need to keep the OS from noticing that it filters GIFs, either by removing ImageViewer from /LocalApps or ~/Apps or by going in and editing/removing the services file inside the app wrapper. > HELP!!!! > > Mail or post > > -- > Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider > razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area > Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" > Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info > To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com --Greg --------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
From: hern@barclay (Steve Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Palette problem with new IB Date: 12 Jul 1994 18:52:25 GMT Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies Message-ID: <2vuop9$cfc@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> I'm trying to use the new IB to open a nib I created with the old IB. I'm using the MORegexPalette from the MOKit. When I attempt to open my nib, I get an alert panel with the following message: "Unable to load palette /LocalDeveloper/MOKit_1.0.0/Palettes/MORegexPalette/MORegexPalette.palette /MORegexFormCell.bundle." There has been some discussion about commenting out the ExportImages line fixing some problems, but that hasn't worked in this case. Has anybody else found a solution to this problem? If it's relevant, the palette is compiled FAT for m68k and i386. Thanks. -- Steve Herndon E-mail: hern@advtech.uswest.com US WEST Advanced Technologies, Phone: (303) 541-6354 4001 Discovery Drive, Suite 270 Boulder, CO. 80303
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: Problems w/ OmniImage.app References: <CstDJ4.Bt@spcuna.spc.edu> <2vue1c$ei2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:58:11 GMT Message-ID: <CsuCp0.ALv@spcuna.spc.edu> : Well, OmniImage uses whatever filter services you happen to have available : and if there is more than one service that does the same thing, you'll get : one of them (semi-) randomly. You've managed to get OmniImage to use : OmniImageFilter for most filtering, but not for .GIF->.TIFF. If you want : to keep ImageViewer from doing this you need to keep the OS from noticing : that it filters GIFs, either by removing ImageViewer from /LocalApps or : ~/Apps or by going in and editing/removing the services file inside the : app wrapper. I removed ImageViewer.app from LocalApps. Now I get these errors when I click on a .gif and OmniImage.app loads from console: Jul 12 14:56:35 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/ImageViewer.app: (not a valid program) Jul 12 14:56:35 Workspace: Cannot launch service: 'ImageViewer' Application: Could not load from file /home/razor/e2.gif OmniImage: Could not load from file /home/razor/e2.gif Jul 12 14:57:06 Workspace: Cannot open /home/razor/e2.gif And the .gif does not open. BTW: Where should the OmniImageFilter.services be? Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap? Date: 12 Jul 1994 19:31:16 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2vur24$k3r@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com> <CsLnHA.10t@spcuna.spc.edu> <2vrtav$2i2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes: >Yuck. Mosaic is nasty. I like the new OmniWeb, though it still bombs too >much for my taste, has Really Nasty(tm) colors for already-been-there >links, no way to change colors (as far as I can tell), and for some reason >puts links both in front and behind the link phrase, depending on its parse >of the text, I guess. Weird. Never fear - 0.7.4.1 now lets you control whether or not you have the spiffy diamond pushbuttons as well as full control over all of the colors. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: swoosh@cats.ucsc.edu (John Elias Darrow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: self extracting archive software? Date: 12 Jul 1994 21:17:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of any programs that create self extracting archives. I want files or directory structures to be compressed in any format and put into an executable file that extracts itself independantly of any other programs. If anyone knows of any such software for the NeXT or any other Unix platform I would appreciate the info. thanks- -john.
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems w/ OmniImage.app Date: 12 Jul 1994 21:49:50 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2vv35u$g00@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CsuCp0.ALv@spcuna.spc.edu> In article <CsuCp0.ALv@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > [My quote removed] > > I removed ImageViewer.app from LocalApps. > Now I get these errors when I click on a .gif and OmniImage.app loads > [Can't find ImageViewer] > > And the .gif does not open. > > BTW: Where should the OmniImageFilter.services be? > I forgot to mention that you'll need to log out and log back in again for your services entries to be reset. OmniImageFilter should be in /LocalLibrary/Services or ~/Library/Services. > Nick > > -- > Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider > razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area > Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" > Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info > To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com --Greg --------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) Subject: NXHost Improv errors Message-ID: <dalCsuL8p.4ws@netcom.com> Keywords: improv,nxhost,rsh,opensesame Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:02:49 GMT I am using OpenSesame to access Improv and PresentBuilder. Improv loads just fine. Presentation Builder does not load properly. I am running NS 3.2 (Black) on the host and Beta NS 3.2 for HP locally. The console error messages are below: OpenSesame: execute: [rsh HostMachine /LocalApps/Improv.app/Improv -NXHost LocalMachine] asRoot: 0 Jul 7 09:23:04 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/PresentationBuilder.app: (not a valid program) Jul 7 09:23:04 Workspace: Cannot launch program: 'PresentationBuilder' OpenSesame: execute: [rsh HostMachine/LocalApps/PresentationBuilder.app/Pr esentationBuilder -NXHost LocalMachine] asRoot: 0 Jul 7 09:25:04 Workspace: Cannot launch program: 'HotlinkPort' Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Letendre | President, LC | You don't learn anything when you're NeXT Sys Admin | talking.
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem, downloading help. Date: 13 Jul 1994 02:27:51 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2vvjf7$71u@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2vhnlo$jsr@news.cuny.edu> >>i just got a modem for a NeXT, and i don't know what the hell i'm doing. You sound like a NeXT bozo like me. Get TipTop. Lones Smith, MIT -- Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914 e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff) lasmith@athena.mit.edu (if all else fails)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kawai@crane.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) Subject: How to Canel in NewsGrazer Message-ID: <1994Jul13.085029.15841@rknss1.riken.go.jp> Sender: news@rknss1.riken.go.jp Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 08:50:29 GMT Could anyone tell me how to cancel your posted article from NewsGrazer? -- Nobuyuki Kawai RIKEN
From: pote@benjamin.tch.harvard.edu (Dr. Kenneth G. Pote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for GrantFormPak for the Next Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:04:22 GMT Organization: Harvard University, NSD Message-ID: <300s96$mr4@hsdndev.harvard.edu> I have a copy of the grant forms for the generation of a 398 or 2590 NIH grant application. These files are Word Perfect and Lotus files from a PC. The Lotus files appear to be fine on the Next under Improv. The Word Perfect files, under Word Perfect for the Next, no longer have the proper format in the primary files, and the merge to the secondary files does not result in generation of a form, in all cases. When attempting to merge some of the pairs of primary and secondary files, the result is that Word Perect stops running. The secondary files appear to be intact, though I suspect the merge links to the primary files might be faulty. Does anyone have these files in the proper format for the Next? Regards Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: self extracting archive software? Message-ID: <CsvxHy.9y@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:25:10 GMT In article <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> swoosh@cats.ucsc.edu (John Elias Darrow) writes: > > I was wondering if anyone could point me in the > direction of any programs that create self > extracting archives. I want files or directory > structures to be compressed in any format and put into > an executable file that extracts itself independantly of > any other programs. If anyone knows of any such > software for the NeXT or any other Unix platform I would > appreciate the info. Maybe shar? Just uses a shell but that should not be a problem as you seem to intend packing executables as well. Makes no sense to send these to a non-Unix box, does it? So you will always find a shell on the receiver's side. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anybody compiled Cassandra for NS/Intel? Date: 13 Jul 1994 20:35:26 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <301j6e$26c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> And if you have, could you NeXYTMail me? (Or at least send me your makefile modifications. I couldn't for the life of me compile it.) -- Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brambl@graz.cbs.umn.edu (Robert Brambl) Subject: Re: Looking for GrantFormPak for the Next Message-ID: <CswBLD.9Jn@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <300s96$mr4@hsdndev.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 20:30:20 GMT In article <300s96$mr4@hsdndev.harvard.edu> pote@benjamin.tch.harvard.edu (Dr. Kenneth G. Pote) writes: > I have a copy of the grant forms for the generation of a 398 or 2590 NIH > grant application. These files are Word Perfect and Lotus files from a [munch] Somebody could provide a useful service by selling templates for the entire NIH grant application kit. Add NSF forms to the list. These things are a real pain to prepare, and if we could complete them in FrameMaker or Pages formats it would be a huge help (and help standardize research institutions on these applications, too). I can't help with this WordPerfect problem, but I have scanned the NIH application kit and imported in into FrameMaker on the NeXT, where it can be completed in the graphics text editor. Clumsy initially, but it works. If you are interested, I can send these files to you (they going to require about 10 mb of disk space). Robert Brambl University of Minnesota
From: jbettis@cse.unl.edu (Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PNI SLIP problems Date: 13 Jul 1994 20:10:22 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <301hne$f0k@crcnis1.unl.edu> Has anyone suscessfully installed TransPNI SLIP v1.9 Beta? I have it installed, but am having some troubles. For one, the pnistat program gets RPC errors and bombs out. I am also having modem troubles, so I haven't gotten a connection yet. Could someone who has this working send me their config files? I am trying to get two NeXT boxes (one black and one white) to talk together both using PNI SLIP. NeXTMAIL is fine. jeremy@hksys.com -- Jeremy Bettis -*- PGP Public key available -*- University of Nebraska INET: jbettis@cse.unl.edu "Those who stand in the middle of the UUCP: jerbo@tddi.UUCP,jeremy@hksys.com road are often hit by passing cars." Running Linux -- The Free Unix for i386/i486/Pentium machines. Ask me how.
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Standard `35' PostScript fonts for NeXTStation Date: 14 Jul 1994 02:36:38 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <3028bm$rbp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> I'd like to have all of the standard `35' postscript fonts on my nextstation. Does anyone know from where I might purchase them? Thanks, don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andy@tssl.demon.co.uk (Andy Wainhouse) Subject: SLIP/PPP Organization: Thameside Systems Limited Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 00:24:42 +0000 Message-ID: <774145482snz@tssl.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Anybody out there have either a SLIP or PPP driver that works with NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel 80x86 based systems. Thanks -- Andy --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <1994Jul13.193317.2649@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:33:17 GMT Hi, if I type "/usr/etc/ping prim.demon.co.uk" when my machine (prim.demon.co.uk) is disconnected from the network it says "unknown host", but when I bring SLIP up it works. Is there an easy way to make this work all the time? Thanks, Dave Griffiths PS: ping prim doesn't work either.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cub'X Windows and Miro Crystal 32S video card Date: 14 Jul 1994 05:55:10 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <302jvu$oj8@Times.Stanford.EDU> Has anyone gotten Cub'X Windows to work with a Miro Crystal 32S video card? I loaded the version of the demo which came with the NEXTSTEP 3.2 CDs and it worked in only 1 of the 4 modes (the separate X screen mode). In the other 3 modes, starting X would immediately cause the demo dialog box to come up and state that it was a demo version and could be run again by selecting "run X" (the demo is set to quit and give this message after a specified small number of X events). The newest version on the archive sites as of late spring (version 4.4) didn't work in ANY of the 4 modes (all giving the above behavior). I was told by Claire at Intuitiv that there were compatibility problems specifically with the Miro Crystal 32S video card and that they would be fixed in the new version about to come out. That new version (4.5) is available, and I got it NeXT Mailed to me by her, but it gives the same behavior and the Palo Alto branch of Intuitiv is in Germany for a few weeks and haven't reponded to my e-mail requests for help. Any help from knowing people in net-land would be appreciated. I'd like to give Cub'X a fair shake before deciding between it and co-Xist, but it's getting a bit absurd that I can't even run the demo. (The co-Xist demo is not without it's problems also, like a very badly submarining mouse pointer, and it doesn't do that without the program as I have a nice PS/2 mouse.) -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kawai@crane.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> Sender: news@rknss1.riken.go.jp Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan References: <2vrtv1$pg8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 05:47:09 GMT I have Virtuoso 1.0, and I received the upgrade offer from GS. Virtuoso may be a great appliction with wonderful functions, but it is too SLOOOOW on my NeXT station color (25 MHz), and I found it almost painful to work with it to create drawings with nice colors and gradations. My question is if there is any improvement in SPEED in Virtuoso 2.0 over 1.0. If the version 2.0 is even slower than 1.0 as a result of added features, it may be useless for an owner of 25 MHz NeXT station. -- Nobu
From: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD Rom / Music Date: 14 Jul 1994 09:58:32 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Sender: R. B. Pajarola Message-ID: <303288$q95@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Keywords: CDRom Music Hi folks, I heard a few days ago that you can record digital music from a CD Rom drive on a Mac without special D/A A/D devices, you only need a special program that reads all the digital information on the CDRom disk and copies the sound as needed through the SCSI interface onto the Mac. Is there a similar possibility on the NeXT ? I've the Apple CDRom 300 drive, which is multisession able (required on the Mac to record the music). Thanks for your help, Renato _______________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola Phone: ++41 1 312 73 14 ETH Zurich, Switzerland Email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (ETH=Swiss Federal Institute of Technology) Phone: ++41 1 632 74 02
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Term114 worked but 118 does not Message-ID: <1994Jul14.055426.3513@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 05:54:26 GMT I had term114 up and running and wanted to try 118. The following error pops up: Term: Connect: Connection refused Term: Failed to connect to socket //.term/socket It's probably something I did, but any help is appreciated. Harry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Message-ID: <9407141100.AA00253@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 12:57:28 +0200 Subject: literature Hi. I hope you help me. I would like to buy a couple of interesting books about sound recording, speech recognition, musical acoustics, etc. Do you know a place where I can get a list of books on those topics via network? - specially Springer-Verlag. Best regards Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) Subject: Trouble with hooking up an HP Laserjet 4 Printer Message-ID: <CsxM8C.Mnp@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:14:58 GMT Okay, so, I have this lovely new HP Laserjet 4 printer with a postscript chip and 10 megs of memory. I attached it to my NS Intel box via a HP parallel cable, set up the configuration in PrintManager, and it doesn't work. When printing a document the printer does receive data, but nothing comes out. A second print attempt produces a garbled page. Isn't hooking up a postscript printer which is listed in the PrintManager's type menu just supposed to "work", or am I missing something? I.e. is it a software, or hardware configuration problem? --------------------------------------------------------------------- ____ Vince Netz, Systems Manager Phone 612 626 3136 \ / Quality Assurance & Utilization Management FAX 612 626 3524 \/ University of Minnesota Hospital Minneapolis, MN
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP Date: 14 Jul 1994 16:07:19 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <774145482snz@tssl.demon.co.uk> Cc: sales@morningstar.com In article <774145482snz@tssl.demon.co.uk>, Andy Wainhouse <andy@tssl.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Anybody out there have either a SLIP or PPP driver that works with >NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel 80x86 based systems. > >Thanks Morning Star Technologies has the best around - drop them a line at sales@morningstar.com. I use it on my 3.0 slab- runs great. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: self extracting archive software? Message-ID: <1994Jul13.161617.5550@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:16:17 GMT In article <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> swoosh@cats.ucsc.edu (John Elias Darrow) writes: > > I was wondering if anyone could point me in the > direction of any programs that create self > extracting archives. I want files or directory > structures to be compressed in any format and put into > an executable file that extracts itself independantly of > any other programs. If anyone knows of any such > software for the NeXT or any other Unix platform I would > appreciate the info. > > thanks- > -john. man shar
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker for NS/HP? Date: 14 Jul 1994 17:25:10 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <303sdm$h2i@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Howdy, It appears that a Gecko is in my near (!!!) future and so I was wondering when I could anticipate getting FrameMaker running on my new toy? I think that Lighthouse Design is doing the Intel port so I'm assuming (always dangerous, I know) that a port will occur. Is this a correct assumption and is there an anticipated release date? Along those lines, d'ya happen to know when Mathematica will be released? If memory serves, the Intel release was concurrent with the NeXTSTEP release. Thanks, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: kcarroll@u.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Date: 14 Jul 1994 18:15:15 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <303vbj$4gq@news.u.washington.edu> References: <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> In article <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> kawai@crane.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) writes: > I have Virtuoso 1.0, and I received the upgrade offer from GS. > Virtuoso may be a great appliction with wonderful functions, but it is too > SLOOOOW on my NeXT station color (25 MHz), and I found it almost painful > to work with it to create drawings with nice colors and gradations. > > My question is if there is any improvement in SPEED in Virtuoso 2.0 over > 1.0. If the version 2.0 is even slower than 1.0 as a result of added > features, it may be useless for an owner of 25 MHz NeXT station. > > -- > Nobu I've noticed a slowness also, but thought (hoped) it was a beta problem. Tom Gould at GS Corp can be reached at 1800.999.8844. Upgrade cost is firm, no academic discount. That is not true for Tailor so ask. Also according to Lorin, Tech support is now bob@goldleaf.com.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Date: 14 Jul 1994 20:15:06 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <3046ca$1c0@Times.Stanford.EDU> I have 5 separate Unix accounts that I use regularly in addition to my NEXTSTEP machine, and 2 others that I use occasionally. Not being the administrator of any but my own NEXTSTEP system and with all the security holes in NFS, they won't let me mount my accounts on my local machine, so I'm considering RBrowser as a nicer way to interface these systems than rlogin through a terminal window. I have a sheet I got at a user group meeting telling me I can ftp RBrowser V0.9 for free, but not telling me where, and it doesn't appear to be at cs.orst.edu or Purdue according to their index files. Does anyone know where to get it? Also, as I haven't heard anything positive or negative about it, I'm curious what people's impressions are. Does anyone use it at all? Does it just work so perfectly that there is no point of mentioning and no questions to ask? -Karl
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Date: 14 Jul 1994 22:34:44 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <304ei4$6c2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> In article <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> kawai@crane.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) writes: > Virtuoso may be a great appliction with wonderful functions, but it is too > SLOOOOW on my NeXT station color (25 MHz), and I found it almost painful > to work with it to create drawings with nice colors and gradations. How much RAM do you have? Although it has been a while since I used Virtuoso 1.0 (I'm now using a 2.0 beta version), I didn't find things overly painful with 32 MB RAM. When I bought my colorstation, I only had 16 MB RAM, and color graphics were painfully slow. -- Todd
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Connecting a network printer on a standalone ColorStation Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:32:19 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <304at3$5dq@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: Network printer, Standalone Hi all, I m about to borrow a new colorlaserprinter product from my company, for testing. It has both a serial port (RS-422) and a network interface (Ethernet, TCP/IP or IPX), and I m going to connect it to my ColorStation. I would of course prefer to use thin Ethernet (BNC) with terminators on either end, not much trouble in that. But I m not quite sure as to how the software setup should be done. Do I simply add a new entry through the PrintManager.app (yes, I have a PPD file for it), or do I need to fiddle with Unix to get this connection to work??? Also, is it possible to make the setup transparent to the app s, meaning that I can print as usual (like the NeXTLaser), and it gets printed on this printer, or will I have to use lpr??? The printer can also support EtherTalk (AppleTalk), and I still have the original 3.0 AppleTalk package. Does anyone use this package on a 3.2 NeXT, with acceptable results (I know it s flaky at best)??? I m really looking forward to trying this product, and I only have for 2 weeks starting this Friday, so I need help fast!!! Thanks for your support! Best Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GS Corporation - email address... Date: 14 Jul 1994 22:05:17 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <304cqt$5g5@machthenext.dannug.dk> Hi Could someone give me some more detail on the GS Corporation CD, or better yet, give me their email address??? Thanks Best Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:31:43 GMT Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: : I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their : softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through : info@ciusa.com From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is ciusa@cup.portal.com --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: perl Message-ID: <CsynCx.KrF@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2vt3d6$ra0@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:38:57 GMT staff music (kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know what the latest version of perl is that is running : on the NeXT (3.0) and where i might get it via FTP. Perl 4.036 can be had in FAT binary distribution as a .pkg package from cs.orst.edu. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: self extracting archive software? Message-ID: <CsynGE.L1B@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2vv1a0$sfg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:41:02 GMT John Elias Darrow (swoosh@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote: : I was wondering if anyone could point me in the : direction of any programs that create self : extracting archives. I want files or directory : structures to be compressed in any format and put into : an executable file that extracts itself independantly of : any other programs. If anyone knows of any such : software for the NeXT or any other Unix platform I would : appreciate the info. The latest version of zip in development has this capability, I believe. To say nothing of shar, which you already have in NeXTSTEP... --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Message-ID: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3046ca$1c0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:49:57 GMT Karl Robert Pfleger (kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : I have 5 separate Unix accounts that I use regularly in addition to my : NEXTSTEP machine, and 2 others that I use occasionally. Not being the : administrator of any but my own NEXTSTEP system and with all the : security holes in NFS, they won't let me mount my accounts on my local : machine, so I'm considering RBrowser as a nicer way to interface these : systems than rlogin through a terminal window. : I have a sheet I got at a user group meeting telling me I can ftp : RBrowser V0.9 for free, but not telling me where, and it doesn't appear : to be at cs.orst.edu or Purdue according to their index files. Does : anyone know where to get it? : Also, as I haven't heard anything positive or negative about it, I'm : curious what people's impressions are. Does anyone use it at all? Does : it just work so perfectly that there is no point of mentioning and no : questions to ask? RBrowser is an extremely useful tool. It essentially opens a Workspace Manager on any UNIX box, including any NeXT box. Amazingly useful where NFS links cannot/do not exist, or for remote access to removable media like floppies and CD's. I can now leave the CDROM drive on my desk and access the disk in it from any other box. Much more powerful than FTP for distant remote sites. Latest version (0.95 when I last looked) is FTPable from sutro.sfsu.edu I love the "UNIX(R) Wimp" option in RBrowser's User Preferences. ;-) --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: chugam@vccnorth22.its.rpi.edu (Mahesh Lakhi Chugani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any NeXTStep jobs in Upstate N.Y. ? Date: 15 Jul 1994 03:38:46 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3050c6$rfm@usenet.rpi.edu> I have just moved to upstate New York and am looking for NeXTStep jobs in the area around Albany. I have 2 years experience with NeXT ( 4 years overall ) and would appreciate any leads I can get regarding jobs in this area. You could send me email at: chugani@dewey.udel.edu or chugam@rpi.edu. Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin References: <1994Jul13.193317.2649@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:31:30 GMT Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote: : Hi, if I type "/usr/etc/ping prim.demon.co.uk" when my machine : (prim.demon.co.uk) is disconnected from the network it says "unknown host", : but when I bring SLIP up it works. This is the correct behavior. If an interface is down, it cant do anything. : Is there an easy way to make this work all the time? No. It would be an error. Regards Rene' -- _____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GS Corporation - email address... Date: 15 Jul 1994 05:31:34 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3056vm$ko9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <304cqt$5g5@machthenext.dannug.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) writes: >Hi >Could someone give me some more detail on the GS Corporation CD, or better >yet, give me their email address??? info@goldleaf.com Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thorton@pts.mot.com Subject: Re: Looking for GrantFormPak for the Next Message-ID: <Csy794.Ay2@pts.mot.com> Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL References: <CswBLD.9Jn@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:51:04 GMT In article <CswBLD.9Jn@news.cis.umn.edu> brambl@graz.cbs.umn.edu (Robert Brambl) writes: > Somebody could provide a useful service by selling templates for the > entire NIH grant application kit. Add NSF forms to the list. These things > are a real pain to prepare, and if we could complete them in FrameMaker or > Pages formats it would be a huge help (and help standardize research > institutions on these applications, too). The NSF GRESE forms that can be ftp'd from stis.nsf.gov include Postscript files with an interesting feature. The comments in the files show you how to just add your text to variable/macro definitions at the end of the Postscript file itself, and voila, the .ps file prints with your entries nicely formatted. I don't recall seeing this documented in any kind of README info -- I just happened to be looking at the top of one of the Postscript files and saw the instructions. It's a tremendous time saver. ===================================================================== Dr. Thomas B. Horton, Assistant Professor Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800 Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax Summer 1994: Motorola, CASE Group, Paging Products Division, Boynton Bch, FL
From: putaala@rieska.oulu.fi (Miikka Putaala) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker for NeXTStep3.2 on Intel Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:24:12 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Distribution: world Message-ID: <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I would like to purchase FrameMaker for NeXTStep, but don't know where to buy it. Any hints for where to purchase are welcome. Thanks in advance. -- +-----------------------------------------------------+ | Name: Miikka Putaala Email: putaala@cc.oulu.fi | | Address: Tatunkuja 6 Phone: (358) 81 362430 | | 90540 Oulu | | Finland | +-----------------------------------------------------+
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:41:48 GMT Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK Message-ID: <30677c$545@castle.york.ac.uk> References: <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de> In article <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de>, rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) says: > > Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote: > : Hi, if I type "/usr/etc/ping prim.demon.co.uk" when my machine > : (prim.demon.co.uk) is disconnected from the network it says "unknown host", > : but when I bring SLIP up it works. > > This is the correct behavior. If an interface is down, it cant do anything. The interface can't, but the routing should be intelligent enough to say that the machine is the local one and not attempt to send it on ppp0 This is wrong behaviour for the system. > : Is there an easy way to make this work all the time? > > No. It would be an error. see above... I suspect that you dont have your machine set up correctly. try 'ping localhost' which should work. When the ppp link comes down it should delete it's routes - you probably have a fixed link set up to the remote machine and then a default route with the remote as the gateway. These should be removed. If it's got the correct IP address for your machine and your machine only has one IP address then the spftware shouldn't try sending the packet anywhere. It certainly works on this machine whcih has both an ethernet and a ppp interface. As you get "unknown host" when you do the ping then you probably need an entry in your hosts file for your local machine. If it finds the IP address then it should work o.k. Have you tried pinging the local address ? -pete french.
From: langner@next1.rz.fh-weingarten.de (Dipl. - Ing. (FH) Peter Langner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Omniweb -> no images ?? Date: 15 Jul 1994 15:28:11 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <3069ub$jef@news.belwue.de> Hi, I installed OmniWeb 0.7.4.1 on my NeXTCube (NS3.1) in ~/Apps. Everything is doing fine except that I do not see any images. I can only see the image icons with a stop-sign. Somebody knows something about this one ? Thanx a lot for help ! Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: New IB and monochrome machine (Was Palette problem with new IB) Message-ID: <1994Jul15.143234.11614@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vuop9$cfc@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:32:34 GMT In article <2vuop9$cfc@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> hern@barclay (Steve Herndon) writes: [ Stuff about new Interface Builder ] Has anyone else run the NEW IB on a monochrome machine? Does anyone else find it difficult to read some of the object and folder names on a monochrome monitor? [ Don't flame me for running on a monochrome. I sold my TND for a Gecko ] -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: Scott McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CuSeeMe for NeXT? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:51:06 GMT Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK. Sender: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk Message-ID: <940715145106.24105AACYP.scott@shrug> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Is anyone working on an implementation for CU-SeeMe on a NeXT (preferably black)? having seen this for PC's and Macs, it seems that this would be a fairly good step towards getting NeXT's compatible with various conferencing tools that people seem to be using. Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: How to Canel in NewsGrazer Message-ID: <1994Jul14.221135.12207@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <1994Jul13.085029.15841@rknss1.riken.go.jp> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:11:35 GMT Nobuyuki Kawai writes > Could anyone tell me how to cancel your posted article from NewsGrazer? > > -- > Nobuyuki Kawai RIKEN Follow this menu path: [Article > ] [ Post > ] [ Cancel article ] -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GS Corporation - email address... Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:39:02 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <306e36$f44@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <3056vm$ko9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <304cqt$5g5@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) writes: > Could someone give me some more detail on the GS Corporation CD, or (415) 257-4710 cara@goldleaf.com Cara Stallone/Marketing Manager -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:41:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <306e81$f4s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> How can I get AIFF sound and MPEG real time videos to work in a WWW server under NextStep? OmniWeb only seems to do pictures via OmniImage. Is there some way to get sound and movies under OmniWeb? Will Mosaic under MouseX do it if OmniWeb won't? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:42:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> How can I get AIFF sound and MPEG real time videos to work in a WWW server under NextStep? OmniWeb only seems to do pictures via OmniImage. Is there some way to get sound and movies under OmniWeb? Will Mosaic under MouseX do it if OmniWeb won't? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:42:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <306e9e$f54@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> How can I get AIFF sound and MPEG real time videos to work in a WWW server under NextStep? OmniWeb only seems to do pictures via OmniImage. Is there some way to get sound and movies under OmniWeb? Will Mosaic under MouseX do it if OmniWeb won't? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:45:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <306eel$a6v@umd5.umd.edu> References: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: [...] > > RBrowser is an extremely useful tool. > > It essentially opens a Workspace Manager on any UNIX box, including any > NeXT box. > > Amazingly useful where NFS links cannot/do not exist, or for remote > access to removable media like floppies and CD's. I can now leave the > CDROM drive on my desk and access the disk in it from any other box. > > Much more powerful than FTP for distant remote sites. > > Latest version (0.95 when I last looked) is FTPable from sutro.sfsu.edu > > I love the "UNIX(R) Wimp" option in RBrowser's User Preferences. ;-) > > --Chris I just uploaded it, out of curiosity. I have used Touch.app in the past, which opens the real Workspace Manager on a remote Unix machine. Why does RBrowser choose to do it this way? Touch.app doesn't have to worry about object links -- everything just works. What happened to Touch.app anyway? I have an old beta copy, which crashes the machine once in a while. When it works, however, it's wonderful. Rod Price rprice@reunion.umd.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 15 Jul 1994 17:34:13 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <306hal$7gt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > How can I get AIFF sound and MPEG real time videos to work in a WWW server > under NextStep? OmniWeb only seems to do pictures via OmniImage. Is > there some way to get sound and movies under OmniWeb? Will Mosaic under > MouseX do it if OmniWeb won't? Download Movie.app from the archives and put it in ~/Apps. When you click on an MPEG file, OmniWeb will fire up Movie.app and play the movie. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.uucp,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: NeXTMAIL <-> MS-MAIL Message-ID: <Cszt3I.HFt@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:40:27 GMT folks, has anyone dealt with getting NeXTMAIL to communicate with MS-MAIL? are there any parameters/configurations/chants one should perform to allow this capability? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Display PS to windows screen dumps ? Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:37:23 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <306l13$fni@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I am wondering how I could grab partial screen snapshots under NS using GRAB.app and transfering those under word 6 for windows. What I am really interested is for them to be printed later on a an HP laser III. Does anyone has experience with this ? It is impossible to reassign the // port address on COMPAQ M computers or under NS. Jean-Marc Debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:49:28 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <306lno$ff7@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de> <30677c$545@castle.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes: >In article <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de>, rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) says: >> >> Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote: >> : Hi, if I type "/usr/etc/ping prim.demon.co.uk" when my machine >> : (prim.demon.co.uk) is disconnected from the network it says "unknown host", >> : but when I bring SLIP up it works. >> >> This is the correct behavior. If an interface is down, it cant do anything. >The interface can't, but the routing should be intelligent enough to >say that the machine is the local one and not attempt to send it on ppp0 >This is wrong behaviour for the system. >I suspect that you dont have your machine set up correctly. try >'ping localhost' which should work. When the ppp link comes down it should >delete it's routes - you probably have a fixed link set up to the >remote machine and then a default route with the remote as the gateway. These >should be removed. If it's got the correct IP address for your machine and >your machine only has one IP address then the spftware shouldn't try sending >the packet anywhere. It certainly works on this machine whcih has both >an ethernet and a ppp interface. As you get "unknown host" when you do the >ping then you probably need an entry in your hosts file for your >local machine. If it finds the IP address then it should work o.k. Have >you tried pinging the local address ? (assuming that you're ping problem is from offsite, instead of from your SLIP'ed host) Another thing that you should look in to with this.. When your slip host is down, you get "unknown host"? I assume you're pinging a hostname when you try this. If you try pinging the IP number, what do you get? If you get "network unreachable", then you're probably having a nameserver problem, especially if your slip host, or some host on the same side of the slip line, is your only nameserver. (or if all of your knowlegable nameservers are on the same side of the slip line). Specifically, no one outside of your slip machine knows how to bind your hostname to your ip address, so when you ping the hostname, and the slip line is down, no one knows who the machine is. But if the slip line is up, the ping finds your nameserver and can resolve the hostname to an IP address, and then send the ping to your host. If this is the case, then the solution is simple. Quite simply, follow the proper procedures and get an off-site nameserver (if I remember right, you're supposed to have a secondary nameserver off site for exactly this reason. This type of thing is usually provided by your SLIP provider). If, on the otherhand, when you ping the IP number, you still get "unknown host", then there's something else wrong. And I'm not sure what that is :-) Also, this type of question really should have been cross posted to comp.protocols.tcp-ip or something. While I'm sure there ARE some tcp-ip guru's who read the next groups, you shouldn't depend on that. This is a tcpip problem, and probably not a nextstep problem. You'd be more likely to get faster, more specific, answers on that group. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Date: 15 Jul 1994 19:15:50 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <306n96$far@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: > : I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their > : softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through > : info@ciusa.com > > From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is > ciusa@cup.portal.com > > --Chris > Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- > Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| > chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| > csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Well, when you try, you got : From: Portal_mail_system@cup.portal.com To: Eric de la Tribouille <eric@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu> Subject: Returned mail Lines: 24 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 12:13:21 PDT X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) To: Eric de la Tribouille <eric@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu> From: Portal mail system Subject: Returned mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 12:13:21 PDT Lines: 24 Your letter to "ciusa" could not be delivered. Reason for failure: This user's account is suspended ----- Detailed explanation for failure: This user has temporarily suspended his account. Accounts are typically suspended for several months. While suspended, this user will be unable to receive any mail. Undeliverable letter follows ----- [...] - Eric -- Opinion expressed is my own ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NeXTStep3.2 on Intel Date: 15 Jul 1994 18:51:20 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <306lr8$gmb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> In article <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> putaala@rieska.oulu.fi (Miikka Putaala) writes: > I would like to purchase FrameMaker for NeXTStep, > but don't know where to buy it. Any hints for where > to purchase are welcome. It's not yet out for Intel. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Display PS to windows screen dumps ? Message-ID: <CszzLJ.Bs5@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <306l13$fni@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 20:00:53 GMT In article <306l13$fni@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes: > > I am wondering how I could grab partial screen snapshots > under NS using GRAB.app and transfering those under > word 6 for windows. What I am really interested is > for them to be printed later on a an HP laser III. > > Does anyone has experience with this ? It is impossible > to reassign the // port address on COMPAQ M computers > or under NS. screen shot -> Grab.app -> Save As... (file.tif) -> floppy disk/ NFS shared disk -> import into Word. -- personal opinions
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.mail.uucp,comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Re: NeXTMAIL <-> MS-MAIL Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:22:00 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ei9izcu00WBM41kmph@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cszt3I.HFt@nntpa.cb.att.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Jul-94 NeXTMAIL <-> MS-MAIL by -B.LING@hogpf.ho.att.com > folks, > > has anyone dealt with getting NeXTMAIL to communicate with MS-MAIL? > are there any parameters/configurations/chants one should perform > to allow this capability? NeXTmail is a uuencoded, compressed tar format. Assuming you have straight Unix mail connectivity between the NeXT machines and the MS-MAIL machines (you can check by sending non-NeXTmail), what you need to do is get PC versions of uudecode, uncompress (better yet, gzip), and (gnu)tar, which you can find via archie and/or at prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Subject: Re: NXHost Improv errors Message-ID: <1994Jul15.140120.1170@westwerk.cube.de> Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Organization: Westwerk References: <dalCsuL8p.4ws@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:01:20 GMT In article <dalCsuL8p.4ws@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) writes: > I am using OpenSesame to access Improv and PresentBuilder. > Improv loads just fine. Presentation Builder does not load properly. > > I am running NS 3.2 (Black) on the host and Beta NS 3.2 for HP locally. > > The console error messages are below: > > OpenSesame: execute: [rsh HostMachine /LocalApps/Improv.app/Improv -NXHost > LocalMachine] asRoot: 0 > Jul 7 09:23:04 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/PresentationBuilder.app: > (not a valid program) > Jul 7 09:23:04 Workspace: Cannot launch program: 'PresentationBuilder' > OpenSesame: execute: [rsh HostMachine/LocalApps/PresentationBuilder.app/Pr > esentationBuilder -NXHost LocalMachine] asRoot: 0 > Jul 7 09:25:04 Workspace: Cannot launch program: 'HotlinkPort' The problem is that Improv looks for the file PresentationBuilder.app in a particular location, namely in the same directory as Improv. I also ran into this "HotlinkPort"-message when I tried to create a link-file of Improv.app in another directory (without PresentationBuilder). A solution might be to launch PresentationBuilder separately. There's a preference value in Improv enabling/disabling the automatic launch of PresentationBuilder. In your case, I think it should be disabled. Hope this helps. Michael -- ****************************************************************** Michael Burgstahler ---> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) University of Stuttgart 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager ---> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH Forststrasse 163/1 70193 Stuttgart GERMANY Phone 0711 / 638360 Fax/Data 0711 / 634696 ****************************************************************** -- ****************************************************************** Michael Burgstahler ---> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) University of Stuttgart · 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager ---> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH Forststrasse 163/1 · 70193 Stuttgart · GERMANY
From: dhsmith@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NeXTStep3.2 on Intel Date: 15 Jul 1994 22:04:15 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <307150$4qr@rosie.next.com> References: <306lr8$gmb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <306lr8$gmb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: #In article <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> putaala@rieska.oulu.fi #(Miikka Putaala) writes: # #> I would like to purchase FrameMaker for NeXTStep, #> but don't know where to buy it. Any hints for where #> to purchase are welcome. # #It's not yet out for Intel. # #-- Todd Takken #takken@leland.stanford.edu You're right, it's not out yet, but it will be distributed by Lighthouse, so you should be able to get more information from them... I don't know the email address offhand, but would guess it's either info@lighthouse.com or framemaker@lighthouse.com based on their other addresses... The phone numbers I do know: 415.570.7736 800.366.2279 Darren
From: jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MPEG Audio Player Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:03:05 GMT Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France) Message-ID: <30783p$42g@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Hello, Is there any MPEG AUDIO player apps for NeXTSTEP ? Thanks in advance for any answer. bye, Jean-Pierre NOVAK. e-mail: jp@axone.u-strasbg.fr or jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce) Subject: [UPDATE] Patch to allow CDPlayer work with Toshiba CD-ROMs Message-ID: <Ct0839.3A2@freenet.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 23:04:20 GMT A number of NEXTSTEP/FIP users that have Toshiba CD-ROM players (including me) have complained that CDPlayer.app doesn't work with the device. We always assumed it was the apps fault. This lead me to GTools, a cool app from Germany by Gerd Knops <gerti@BITart.sub.org>, which has a module (GKPlayer) especially for playing CD's on Toshibas. As an added bonus he included a bug fix for a bug present in all NeXT shipped Adaptec drivers. With GKPlayer this bug manifests itself when you attempt to fast forward within a song by locking the board for a minute or so until it resets. After applying the patch to my surprise I can now just insert a CD into my Toshiba and CDPlayer now finds my favorite CD. It was the Adaptec driver all along. Thank god for SCSI technical guys. For those that can compile here is a diff that you can apply to the sources supplied by NeXTanswer #1556 If you want to read the background download GKPlayer from the archives and look at the README *** Adaptec1542B.orig/Adaptec1542B_reloc.tproj/AHAThread.m Wed Mar 23 21:50:17 1994 --- Adaptec1542B/Adaptec1542B_reloc.tproj/AHAThread.m Fri Jul 15 03:01:17 1994 *************** *** 192,198 **** cmdlen = scsiReq->cdbLength; else #endif REV_3_3 ! cmdlen = sizeof (struct cdb_6); cdb_ctrl = 0; break; --- 192,198 ---- cmdlen = scsiReq->cdbLength; else #endif REV_3_3 ! cmdlen = sizeof (struct cdb_10); cdb_ctrl = 0; break; -- Doug Boyce WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling) ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu NeXTmail and MIME welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: fvwm binaries (revisted) Message-ID: <mreynoldCt0FFq.FHo@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 01:43:01 GMT Hey all: The last copy of binaries (Black) for fvwm that I put at cs.orst.edu was corrupt. I've uploaded a new copy. Cheers, Marc R. NOTE to Bauer Sebastian <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> I've tried to reply to your email, but all I've sent has bounced. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) Subject: HP 700 Nextstep - How much? Message-ID: <1994Jul15.160436.19490@sat.mot.com> Sender: usenet@sat.mot.com (Usenet Accoun) Organization: Motorola Inc. - Satellite Communications Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:04:36 GMT Does anyone know how much NS for the HP 700 series machines will cost? - Thanks, Mark p25231@email.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <Csz1wD.HH@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 07:53:01 GMT In article <1994Jul14.054709.24096@rknss1.riken.go.jp> kawai@crane.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) writes: > I have Virtuoso 1.0, and I received the upgrade offer from GS. > Virtuoso may be a great appliction with wonderful functions, but it is too > SLOOOOW on my NeXT station color (25 MHz), and I found it almost painful > to work with it to create drawings with nice colors and gradations. > > My question is if there is any improvement in SPEED in Virtuoso 2.0 over > 1.0. If the version 2.0 is even slower than 1.0 as a result of added > features, it may be useless for an owner of 25 MHz NeXT station. > > -- > Nobu > I have a turbo color and I also must say, that VIRTUOSO !.0 (I m just waiting for 2.0) is toooo slooow! Maybe, if I have a quick processor, I can program generously. I would really hear something about my opinion. Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NS/HP? Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:27:08 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30824c$14n@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <303sdm$h2i@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mark E. Kotanchek writes: >[...] I think that >Lighthouse Design is doing the Intel port [...] No, no, no! No biscuit! Lighthouse Design is selling Frame for NEXTSTEP. Omni Development, Inc. did the port to Intel. All by our lonesome! Well, OK, I called Kevin Steele once, but he refused to help me, saying, "If I tell you the answer you'll never learn anything yourself." And, you know, I'm a better person for it. -Wil Shipley
From: ken@kenshouse (Kenneth Fleming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Distributed Databases Date: 15 Jul 1994 21:39:13 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <306vm1$mjg@bilbo.suite.com> We are looking for beta sites for the Suite DOME and DDM products. We need someone who is willing to really stress test the Distributed Data Manager in a real world environement. Please, only those who understand the requirements of beta testing.
From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: (Q) Slow transfers using rzsz & Modulator.app @ 9600 Date: 16 Jul 1994 16:14:10 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <30910i$cid@news.delphi.com> I was using NS/I to transfer some files via rzsz & Modulator.app and noticed that the throughput was considerably lower than under DOS w/ Procomm, although at 2400 bps they were approximately the same. I was getting ~330 cps vs ~725 cps. Is this diminished speed due to rzsz, Modulator.app, or the serial driver ? Can I fix it by installing MuxDriver ? Thanks. Jeff Trestrail trestrail@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Hel with TIP/UUCP Message-ID: <1994Jul15.153540.883@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:35:40 GMT I am trying to connect via UUCP to a RS/6000. I have set up UUCP connections to several other machines. I can call the RS/6000 with Microphone and can log in to the UUCP account. However, when I try the same with tip, I press return after typing the login, and the cursor moves to the left of the screen. I can press ^J and it will line feed and ask for the password which I put in and press ^J and/or return and it tells me that my login is in correct. I have tried every permutation of ^J, ^M, and return, but nothing works. I beleive that this is the same problem that UUCP is having. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Re: HP 700 Nextstep - How much? Message-ID: <Ct1KLt.3K6@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University References: <1994Jul15.160436.19490@sat.mot.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:32:17 GMT Mark Frank writes > Does anyone know how much NS for the HP 700 series machines will cost? > - Thanks, Mark > p25231@email.mot.com > > I have heard several unofficial statements that the academic pricing for NS/Hppa will be the same as for Intel, hence, 299$. -robert- -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <edewCt1Lv2.85s@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:59:26 GMT In article <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: >: I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their >: softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through >: info@ciusa.com > >From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is >ciusa@cup.portal.com > >--Chris >Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- >Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| >chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| >csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Forget their eddress. They're no longer on the net. The only way to contact them, as I mentioned before, is by phone or s-mail. The third-party catalogue lists: CiUSA 3208 W. Lake Street Suite 133 Minneapolis MN 55416 (612) 822-1604 (612) 922-4426 I talked to Gerard(?) from CiUSA and he said that they're no longer on the 'net. Apparently, they're very slow with delivering products, too, as I bought DateWise 2.1 from them about 2 weeks ago, and still haven't received it. My credit card has been charged, though. EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP Message-ID: <1994Jul16.083520.3363@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 08:35:20 GMT In article <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes: > In article <774145482snz@tssl.demon.co.uk>, > Andy Wainhouse <andy@tssl.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >Anybody out there have either a SLIP or PPP driver that works with > >NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel 80x86 based systems. > > > >Thanks > > Morning Star Technologies has the best around - drop them a line at > sales@morningstar.com. I use it on my 3.0 slab- runs great. Have they released an Intel version yet? It was what the original poster was asking. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP Date: 16 Jul 1994 22:27:17 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <309ms5$32o@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1994Jul16.083520.3363 In article <1994Jul16.083520.3363@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In article <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes: >> In article <774145482snz@tssl.demon.co.uk>, >> Andy Wainhouse <andy@tssl.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >Anybody out there have either a SLIP or PPP driver that works with >> >NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel 80x86 based systems. >> > >> >Thanks >> >> Morning Star Technologies has the best around - drop them a line at >> sales@morningstar.com. I use it on my 3.0 slab- runs great. > >Have they released an Intel version yet? It was what the original poster >was asking. > Yes, an Intel version is available. ftp to morningstar.com and it's in /pub/ppp. I implied that they did, but didn't explicitly say so. Sorry. :^( Now everyone can run out and buy it! -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: HP 700 Nextstep - How much? Message-ID: <1994Jul16.185707.4309@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jul15.160436.19490@sat.mot.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 18:57:07 GMT In article <1994Jul15.160436.19490@sat.mot.com> frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes: > Does anyone know how much NS for the HP 700 series machines will cost? All versions of NeXTSTEP are supposed to be the same price. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: HELP: Omniweb -> no images ?? Message-ID: <Ct2HLI.E84@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <3069ub$jef@news.belwue.de> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 04:28:43 GMT In article <3069ub$jef@news.belwue.de> langner@next1.rz.fh-weingarten.de (Dipl. - Ing. (FH) Peter Langner) writes: > Hi, > I installed OmniWeb 0.7.4.1 on my NeXTCube (NS3.1) in > ~/Apps. > Everything is doing fine except that I do not see any > images. I can only see the image icons with a stop-sign. > Somebody knows something about this one ? > Thanx a lot for help ! > Peter Did you also install the other applications that come with Omniweb? Don't forget about OmniImageServices and OmniImage.app
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Message-ID: <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 04:30:27 GMT In article <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > How can I get AIFF sound and MPEG real time videos to work in a WWW server > under NextStep? OmniWeb only seems to do pictures via OmniImage. Is > there some way to get sound and movies under OmniWeb? Will Mosaic under > MouseX do it if OmniWeb won't? > > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu It's a good thing you posted your message three time or else i might have missed it :) I just DL'd an mpeg file with OmniWeb, you cannot view a moview in realtime as of now, you can only DL and view it with an mpeg viewer like Movie.app. As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact that files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd not .au I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY????
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 17 Jul 1994 12:47:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <30b98a$h1q@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <306e8o$f50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: >I just DL'd an mpeg file with OmniWeb, you cannot view a moview in realtime >as of now, you can only DL and view it with an mpeg viewer like Movie.app. >As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact that >files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd not .au >I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY???? .snd and .au are the same --- only the extension differs. (Download an .au file, rename it, and double-click: see what happens?) OmniWeb deals with .snd and .au just fine in my experience. -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTIME - extensions extension? Date: 17 Jul 1994 19:50:58 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <30c232$cud@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is there any way I can add an extension to the list of extensions that NEXTIME will play. Most of the QuickTime movies on the Web seem to have a .MOV extension, and NEXTIME.app recognizes .mov, but not .MOV. I tried dragging a .MOV file into NEXTIME.app's Contents inspector well, but it appears to do nothing. (Likewise, I tried to drop NEXTIME.app into the .MOV file's tools well, but it wouldn't allow it.) I looked in the NEXTIME.app wrapper for some sort of configurable file (like Services have), but Localizable.strings didn't seem to have anything I could modify to change this. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NeXTStep3.2 on Intel Message-ID: <Ct1Eqq.64u@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 14:25:38 GMT In article <PUTAALA.94Jul15172412@rieska.oulu.fi> putaala@rieska.oulu.fi (Miikka Putaala) writes: # #Hi, # #I would like to purchase FrameMaker for NeXTStep, #but don't know where to buy it. Any hints for where #to purchase are welcome. # #Thanks in advance. Lighthouse Design in Menlo Park, Ca. 800-366-2279 Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: elitman@glue.umd.edu (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTIME - extensions extension? Date: 17 Jul 1994 22:47:56 GMT Organization: Proxima, Inc. Message-ID: <30cces$ctd@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <30c232$cud@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 17 Jul 1994 19:50:58 GMT, David Lemson (lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: Is there any way I can add an extension to the list of extensions that NEXTIME will play. Most of the QuickTime movies on the Web seem to have a .MOV extension, and NEXTIME.app recognizes .mov, but not .MOV. I tried dragging a .MOV file into NEXTIME.app's Contents inspector well, but it appears to do nothing. (Likewise, I tried to drop NEXTIME.app into the .MOV file's tools well, but it wouldn't allow it.) Use segedit: #!/bin/sh # modify the icon header section of NEXTIME to support .MOV and .AVI files # run this script as root. # # 7/17/94 elitman@proxima.com PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb IFS=" " export PATH IFS # create a new header section /bin/cat > /tmp/header << EOF F NEXTIME.app NEXTIME app F NEXTIME NEXTIME app S mov NEXTIME MovieFile S MOV NEXTIME MovieFile S avi NEXTIME MovieFile S AVI NEXTIME MovieFile S movie NEXTIME MovieFile EOF # copy the executable into /tmp /bin/cp /NextApps/NEXTIME.app/NEXTIME /tmp # add the new extensions to the executable /bin/segedit /tmp/NEXTIME -replace __ICON __header /tmp/header -output /tmp/NEXTIME.new # backup the original /bin/mv -f /tmp/NEXTIME /NextApps/NEXTIME.app/NEXTIME.orig # move in the new one /bin/mv -f /tmp/NEXTIME.new /NextApps/NEXTIME.app/NEXTIME # clean up /bin/rm -f /tmp/header exit 0 # just in case.. # [EAL/proxima]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Message-ID: <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. References: <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 18:15:34 GMT In article <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact that > files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd not .au > I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY???? Well, GISO.app (based on sox - SOund eXchange) converts to/from different sound formats to/from the .snd format. Maybe you can use that? Better yet, maybe the folks at Omni Development can use the sox program itself to build a built-in player to OmniWeb? :) --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325 dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 18 Jul 1994 07:48:29 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <30dc4e$5ri@network.ucsd.edu> References: <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> In article <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: > In article <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > > > As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact that > > files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd not .au > > I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY???? > > Well, GISO.app (based on sox - SOund eXchange) converts to/from different > sound formats to/from the .snd format. Maybe you can use that? > > Better yet, maybe the folks at Omni Development can use the sox program > itself to build a built-in player to OmniWeb? :) Well, I've found the latest version of OmniWeb (0.7.4.1) to play .au audio just fine, with its built-in player. The real challenge would be mpeg-audio support! Alex -- Alexander Levine Review Editor, NEXT IN LINE ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.0 is slow! Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:24:58 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <30e6sa$ve@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver I realize that I'm way behind the times, but I just upgraded from NS2.0 to NS3.0. I can't believe how much my machine ('040 cube with 24M and Quantum LPS540 drive) has slowed down. It seems like the number of disk accesses for most operations have shot way up. I figure there are two likely causes: - NS3.0 code bloat is so bad that I'm swapping a lot more. - The upgrade procedure left my drive excessively fragmented. Comments? I'm considering upgrading to 3.2, which I hear has improved graphics performance but even worse code bloat. I'm also considering doing a fresh BuildDisk. (Is this possible from the 3.0 CD?) Thanks, DR
From: ajafri@interlog.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 18 Jul 1994 15:41:09 GMT Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414 Message-ID: <30e7ql$hrf@steel.interlog.com> References: <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> In article <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: > In article <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > > > As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact that > > files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd not .au > > I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY???? > > Well, GISO.app (based on sox - SOund eXchange) converts to/from different > sound formats to/from the .snd format. Maybe you can use that? > > Better yet, maybe the folks at Omni Development can use the sox program > itself to build a built-in player to OmniWeb? :) > --- > Dino Bagdadi > > Blackmaus Design > 305.935.6325 > > dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) > PGP key available on request. > -- > Dino Bagdadi > > Blackmaus Design > 305.935.6325 I've played sounds with the .au extension simply by changing the extension to .snd. I'm not sure, but does this not work everytime?? -- Amir Jafri ajafri@interlog.com NeXTmail OK
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.0 is slow! Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:28:01 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ii_galm00WBLQ3fBJD@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30e6sa$ve@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Jul-94 NS 3.0 is slow! by David Rosenbaum@cc.gatec > I figure there are two likely causes: > > - NS3.0 code bloat is so bad that I'm swapping a lot more. NS3.0 needs to have the number of kernel buffers increased for reasonable performance. From the FAQ: --------- Subject: G16. What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? I know the ROM monitor only allows twelve characters, but I use something like this: bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx Is there a way to make it default? [Charles William Swiger infidel@cmu.edu] Enter the hardware monitor. Hit 'p' to adjust the configuration parameters. It will respond "Boot command: <something>? " Enter "sd- nbu=xxx", where xxx is a number less than 256. --------- For a 24 MB machine, try using on the order of 96-128 buffers. > - The upgrade procedure left my drive excessively fragmented. That's also possible. > Comments? I'm considering upgrading to 3.2, which I hear has improved > graphics performance but even worse code bloat. I'm also considering > doing a fresh BuildDisk. (Is this possible from the 3.0 CD?) NS 3.2 is very nice (much more stable then 3.0), and sets the number of kernel buffers correctly automatically. I would recommend doing a low-level format on your drive by doing a complete re-install from scratch. You can best do this by booting off of the NS 3.2 CD-ROM. Note that if you have a drive spinning at other then 3600 RPM, you might want to consider manually performing the call to newfs/mkfs to reflect your drives rotational rate for better performance. Consult the man pages on those two commands for examples of what to do. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: font order in the font panel? Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:28:46 GMT Message-ID: <30eolu$kuv@aragorn.unibe.ch> Can anyone tell me by which criteria the fonts in the standard NeXT font panel are sorted? 'Adobe Garamond', 'ITC Garamond' and 'Stempel Garamond' all go to 'G' i.e. the place where one expects to find 'Garamond'. Same applies for all other fonts starting with 'Adobe', 'ITC' or 'Stempel'. However the prefix 'AT' is ignored (thus experienced with 'AT Rotis') and where to Monotype fonts go? do they have a special prefix as well; 'M', 'Mono', ...? <- I haven't tried any of this, I got sick of reediting the afm file over and over again and then waiting for the buildafmdir ... I would be very glad, if anyone could tell me how this is all done in the font panel. It seems to be a mixture of the fontname, fullname and familyname. The weight (as far as I could figure out) is only needed for the sorting of the fonts and the menu items 'heavier' and 'lighter'. Oh, I about forgot: Why do entries in the font panel get sometimes deselected after the font got selected? It seems to depend on the number of majuscular letters in the familyname, or on the prefix or ...? Thanks a lot for any clarifications, -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Problems w/ OmniImage.app References: <CsuCp0.ALv@spcuna.spc.edu> <2vv35u$g00@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:30:12 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jul18.083012.1231@proximus.north.de> In article <2vv35u$g00@ftp-p.mccaw.com>, Greg Titus <Greg.Titus@mccaw.com> wrote: >In article <CsuCp0.ALv@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: >> [My quote removed] >> >> I removed ImageViewer.app from LocalApps. >> Now I get these errors when I click on a .gif and OmniImage.app loads >> [Can't find ImageViewer] >> >> And the .gif does not open. [...] >I forgot to mention that you'll need to log out and log back in again for >your services entries to be reset. Or type in a shell: make_services [...] Gerhard
From: Leip@torolab.ibm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Guided Tour Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:38:51 GMT Organization: IBM Toronto Lab Message-ID: <30ep8r$1bo0@tornews.torolab.ibm.com> Does anyone know why my copy of the Guided Tour app no longer runs under 3.2? Actually I haven't tried it for a while so I'm not sure it runs under any 3.x. Is there a new version? I'd like to get one for a demo. (Same goes for the Lotus Improv demo.) Thanks. David Leip IBM Toronto Lab. work: 416-448-3027 <Leip@torolab4> or <Leip@vnet.ibm.com> home: 519-766-1834 <David@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>
From: rjrjr@mendocino (Ray Ryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs 4.0: make the region more fragile? Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:21:35 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30eo8f$4lv@fungusaur.wizards.com> I am a long-time emacs user, and I have become completely addicted to Emacs.app 4.0. It does such a nice job trying to satisfy both my emacs instincts and my PARC/Mac/NeXT habits that I would feel like a positive ingrate complaining about it. That said, I have a complaint. When the region is active and I type at it, I want it to be replaced by what I type. If I paste/yank at it, I want it replaced by the stuff in the pasteboard/kill buffer. If I type backspace, I want it to go away. This sounds like something I could reach into the lisp and make happen myself. Before I do so, though, I wonder if anyone else has already done it? Failing that, does anyone have advice on how to do it? E.g, what e-lisp to rewrite? rjrjr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu Subject: frame not printing correct font Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:06:33 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 hi i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried to print the documents on this printer but they come out in a courier type font. the frame doc shows the correct font on the screen. it prints correctly to the NeXT Laser printers. other apps can print the AuChampion font correctly to the laserjet. FrameMaker is the only app that will not print this font to the laserjet. has anyone seen a problem like this and if so, anyone have a fix? ugh. i've written frame as well so maybe (?) they'll respond too. kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Mouse Date: 18 Jul 1994 21:32:47 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <30esdv$o6c@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I posted here a few days ago about changing the NeXT mouse speed through dread and dwrite. I was able to get an incomprehendible value for NeXT1 MouseScaling. I had no idea what the minimum or maximum, value could be. Therefore I decided to give NeXT Support a call. Once on the phone with the tech, I was confronted with information that I find totally unacceptable. NeXT does not support chnanging settings accept through the GUI (though they do have and document the dread and dwrite commands), and they will not give out the parameters used, or minimum and maximum values. I am used to using proprietary systems, if I wasn't I would have never bought a NeXTstation Color, but I can't believe they would hide information as simple and harmless as this. Especially since they make references to it in their manuals. Now I begin to wonder if I was right to help support NeXT if they won't support me. I have ignored other faults, but this is just proof of major disrespect for their customers. Jonathan Gardner jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.0 is slow! Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:33:03 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <30evuv$7hg@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <30e6sa$ve@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> David Rosenbaum (daver@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : Comments? I'm considering upgrading to 3.2, which I hear has improved : graphics performance but even worse code bloat. I'm also considering : doing a fresh BuildDisk. (Is this possible from the 3.0 CD?) 3.x overall needs much more memory than 2.x did. This is the chief problem! You need more memory in your machine. That being said, 3.2 is considerably faster than 3.0! MUCH FASTER. You should absolutely upgrade to 3.2. The bloat is minimal. One thing to watch when upgrading: NeXTSTEP forgets to remove multiple-language packages from your system. Destroying multilingual stuff in a hunt-and-kill fashion will cut almost 10-20 megs off of your system. Good luck. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ |Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Diagram or pasteup? Date: 19 Jul 1994 00:26:32 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu> I'm on a limited budget and in need of a page layout program. I don't have any exceptionally complicated needs, beyond the ability to mix text, graphics, different fonts, colors and have multiple pages and the abilit to adjust all of these elements in various proportions and sizes. Having played around with both Diagram and PasteUp I find myself much more in tune with Diagram's very intuitive and clean interface, which from my cursory examinations of both, seems to do pretty much everything I need, and seems to contain most of the funtionality of PasteUp and then some. Is there something obvious that I'm missing in my comparision of the two, does PasteUp have an array of features that I somehow overlooked which are not present in Diagram 2.1? Tnx!
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteUp 1.1 yet? Message-ID: <Jul.18.22.02.43.1994.28290@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 19 Jul 94 02:02:44 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Is WriteUp 1.1 out yet? They said they would send the upgrade out whenever it is availble if you are registered, but it seems to be taking a bit of time.. So has anyone gotten their copy yet? It would be neat if they just put it on the archive site. Thanks, Later, John
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: frame not printing correct font Date: 19 Jul 1994 09:25:51 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <30g66v$bv4@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes: > hi > > i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in > a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple > years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried > to print the documents on this printer but they come out in > a courier type font. > > the frame doc shows the correct font on the screen. > it prints correctly to the NeXT Laser printers. > other apps can print the AuChampion font correctly to the laserjet. > FrameMaker is the only app that will not print this font to the > laserjet. > > > has anyone seen a problem like this and if so, anyone have a fix? Yes. We use FM 3.0.1 on NeXTStation and had the same problem. I found an answer in this newsgroup earlier that helps us. Hope that helps, Alfred. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with getting FrameMaker PS to print elsewhere Date: 28 Feb 1994 21:16:32 GMT In general, this is a good idea. However, it does not work with Frame because Frame does not properly fill the %%DocumentFonts: directive in the PostScript output. One work around is to save your file to a .ps file and bring it up in Edit. Then do the following: cmd-L (bring up a shell command panel) cat <yourfilename>.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u This will open up a window with a crude list of all the fonts Frame is using in the document. Here is an example: ****************** cat temp.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u 0 (AGaramond-Regular) 12 1 mymakefontmetric 0 lineto rmat fill}bind def/mymakefont{/size exch def/name exch def/i exch def 1 (Optima) 7 1 mymakefontmetric 2 (Optima) 20 1 mymakefontmetric 3 (Optima) 10 1 mymakefontmetric 4 (Optima) 9 1 mymakefontmetric 5 (Helvetica) 7 1 mymakefontmetric ]makefont put}def/mymakefontmetric{/BitmapWidths exch 0 eq def mymakefont}def *************************** Now you need to find the line at the top of the .ps file that reads: %%DocumentFonts: (atend) Since Frame does not actually decalre the document fonts at the end, I usually just type them in here. In my example above, this would become: %%DocumentFonts: Optima %%+ AGaramond-Regular %%+ Helvetica Save the .ps file, and double click on it to bring it up in Preview.app. Now you can follow Lorin's suggestions and things ought to work well for you.
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: frame not printing correct font Date: 19 Jul 1994 09:27:34 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <30g6a6$c0k@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes: > hi > > i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in > a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple > years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried > to print the documents on this printer but they come out in > a courier type font. > > the frame doc shows the correct font on the screen. > it prints correctly to the NeXT Laser printers. > other apps can print the AuChampion font correctly to the laserjet. > FrameMaker is the only app that will not print this font to the > laserjet. > > > has anyone seen a problem like this and if so, anyone have a fix? Yes. We use FM 3.0.1 on NeXTStation and had the same problem. I found an answer in this newsgroup earlier that helps us. Hope that helps, Alfred. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Solution from : ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Frame does not properly fill the %%DocumentFonts: directive in the PostScript output. One work around is to save your file to a .ps file and bring it up in Edit. Then do the following: cmd-L (bring up a shell command panel) cat <yourfilename>.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u This will open up a window with a crude list of all the fonts Frame is using in the document. Here is an example: ****************** cat temp.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u 0 (AGaramond-Regular) 12 1 mymakefontmetric 0 lineto rmat fill}bind def/mymakefont{/size exch def/name exch def/i exch def 1 (Optima) 7 1 mymakefontmetric 2 (Optima) 20 1 mymakefontmetric 3 (Optima) 10 1 mymakefontmetric 4 (Optima) 9 1 mymakefontmetric 5 (Helvetica) 7 1 mymakefontmetric ]makefont put}def/mymakefontmetric{/BitmapWidths exch 0 eq def mymakefont}def *************************** Now you need to find the line at the top of the .ps file that reads: %%DocumentFonts: (atend) Since Frame does not actually decalre the document fonts at the end, I usually just type them in here. In my example above, this would become: %%DocumentFonts: Optima %%+ AGaramond-Regular %%+ Helvetica Save the .ps file, and double click on it to bring it up in Preview.app. Now you can follow Lorin's suggestions and things ought to work well for you.
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: frame not printing correct font Date: 19 Jul 1994 01:57:36 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30g4i0$cd9@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes: >i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in >a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple >years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried >to print the documents on this printer but they come out in >a courier type font. I am not an employee of Frame, and I don't speak for Frame, but... This is a known bug. The basic problem is that Frame was written back when this was an omission in NEXTSTEP's printing architecture, and hasn't been updated since. (If you don't use the standard Font machinery, you need to specifically inform NEXTSTEP of which fonts you've used in order for them to be included in the PostScript print header.) We've been made aware of this bug as we do the port to NS/Intel, since it was SO EASY TO PORT WE DECIDED WE'D USE THE EXTRA TIME FIXING OLD BUGS. (All caps to stress to nonbelievers just how cool multi-architecture NEXTSTEP is.) Whether or not this actually gets fixed and/or shipped for Frame 3.2 isn't up to me. I don't even know if Frame will be selling upgrades to 3.2 for Motorola, although that is my recommendation. Lighthouse Design will be distributing Frame for NS/Intel, they'll probably eventually have information about what other architectures Frame might support and what bugs have been fixed. You can try e-mailing info@lighthouse.com. -Wil Shipley
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dBASE Database Kit Adaptor? Date: 19 Jul 1994 09:54:10 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <30g7s2$9jd@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Anyone out there who can give me some information on the dBASE Database Kit Adaptor? Availability? Price? And so on. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to Canel in NewsGrazer Date: 19 Jul 1994 09:51:06 GMT Organization: WHU Koblenz Message-ID: <30g7ma$c44@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de> References: <1994Jul14.221135.12207@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> In article <1994Jul14.221135.12207@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > Nobuyuki Kawai writes > > Could anyone tell me how to cancel your posted article from NewsGrazer? > > > > -- > > Nobuyuki Kawai RIKEN > Follow this menu path: > > [Article > ] [ Post > ] [ Cancel article ] Unfortunatly, this does not work most of the time!!!!!! Wolfgang Roeckelein -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179 WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de Burgplatz 2 (NeXTmail ok) D-56179 Vallendar Germany
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteUp 1.1 yet? Date: 19 Jul 1994 11:43:24 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <30ge8s$k51@news.tamu.edu> References: <Jul.18.22.02.43.1994.28290@gandalf.rutgers.edu> In article <Jul.18.22.02.43.1994.28290@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote: >Is WriteUp 1.1 out yet? They said they would send the upgrade out whenever >it is availble if you are registered, but it seems to be taking a bit of time.. It is not out yet. The documentation is completed and printed (and looks great, if I do say so myself* ;) I believe it will only be a short time til the upgrade is shipped. Lusty *I wrote it--draw your own conclusions ;) -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alain@ninja.fdn.org (Alain Kaufmann) Subject: Where are the FAQ ? Message-ID: <1994Jul19.120625.15171@object-factory.fr> Sender: news@object-factory.fr Organization: THE OBJECT FACTORY - Paris, France Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:06:25 GMT Well, I m looking for the NeXT FAQ. I read the last in April. Someone has an Idea ? FReD -- Frederic Pralong Paris France The Object Factory 5 rue de la cour des Noues 75020 Paris France e-mail : frederic_pralong@object-factory.fr
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: font order in the font panel? Date: 19 Jul 1994 13:17:22 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <30gjp2$k94@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <30eolu$kuv@aragorn.unibe.ch> In article <30eolu$kuv@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) writes: > Can anyone tell me by which criteria the fonts in the standard NeXT font > panel are sorted? > > 'Adobe Garamond', 'ITC Garamond' and 'Stempel Garamond' all go to 'G' i.e. > the place where one expects to find 'Garamond'. Same applies for all other > fonts starting with 'Adobe', 'ITC' or 'Stempel'. The FontPanel seems to have compiled in a list of prefixes to ignore when sorting. Do a "strings -2 /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib > /tmp/xx" and look for "FontPanel" in that list. Some lines later you'll see folowing items: ITC Adobe Bauer Berthold Bitstream Linotype Monotype PMN Simoncini Stempel URW WTC There seems to be no way to extend/change this list (unless you want to patch your libNeXT_s.C.shlib :-) Detlev PS: Does anybody know a more elegant way to find this information ? -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel: +49 261 9119-421, Fax: -497, NeXT/Email: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
From: asoto@wsc.com ( Andre L. Soto ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP Date: 19 Jul 1994 13:22:16 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <30gk28$fh@styx.wsc.com> References: <309ms5$32o@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> > Yes, an Intel version is available. ftp to morningstar.com and it's in > /pub/ppp. I implied that they did, but didn't explicitly say so. Sorry. :^( > > Now everyone can run out and buy it! > -- > *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** > Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. > finger for PGP public key To confirm, Morningstar Technologies does have an intel version of PPP. We have been running their beta version for the past 5 months without a glitch. -- Andre L. Soto andre.soto@wsc.com
From: mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows .WAV to .SND file conversion? Date: 19 Jul 1994 14:36:05 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> Is there a utility that allows conversion from .WAV sound files to .SND files? mike_zemina@wiltel.com
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [NSfIP] term118: tredir doesn't work! Date: 19 Jul 1994 14:59:07 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <30gpns$f5t@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Hi. Anybody else run into this (and found a solution ;-) ? term118 compiled out of the box for me with NSfIP 3.2. It works flawlessly when dialing into our server. But when I call tredir on the local machine, let's say "tredir 8080 80", it instantly returns with an 'bus error'. (BTW: Just tried, and it seems to work on black hw. Can anybody confirm this ?). Any hints on what to do ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 4.0: make the region more fragile? Date: 19 Jul 1994 06:37:57 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul19073757@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <30eo8f$4lv@fungusaur.wizards.com> To: rjrjr@mendocino (Ray Ryan) In-reply-to: rjrjr@mendocino's message of 18 Jul 1994 20:21:35 GMT <rjrjr@mendocino> writes: >I am a long-time emacs user, and I have become completely addicted to >Emacs.app 4.0. Going well so far. Ray, please fix your Reply-To.. it's currently rjrjr@mendocino >It does such a nice job trying to satisfy both my emacs >instincts and my PARC/Mac/NeXT habits that I would feel like a positive >ingrate complaining about it. That said, I have a complaint. >When the region is active and I type at it, I want it to be replaced by >what I type. If I paste/yank at it, I want it replaced by the stuff in the >pasteboard/kill buffer. If I type backspace, I want it to go away. Carl hacked up a some elisp code to do this once. Please let me know how you go and wether it's supported in 19.25 4.0[34] >This sounds like something I could reach into the lisp and make happen >myself. Before I do so, though, I wonder if anyone else has already done >it? >Failing that, does anyone have advice on how to do it? E.g, what e-lisp to >rewrite? Was it sun-mouse.el? >rjrjr BTW: Anybody interested in a mailing list devoted to Emacs for NS? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Image management app/service needed Date: 19 Jul 1994 15:56:01 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <30gt2h$and@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I am working on a database app that needs to access scanned images (multipage fax format TIFF's). Storing these images in Sybase using the current DBKit adaptor is impossible, but supposedly the new EOF Sybase adaptor will have this capability. Unfortunately, I can't wait for EOF, I may have difficulty convincing existing customers to pay for EOF when DBKit is included at no extra cost, and I can't take the chance that the initial EOF may be more buggy than the current DBKit (at least I know most of DBKit's bugs and can work around them). So rather than rolling my own image management system, I'd like to know what's already out there that's available for purchase. It would be nice if the image management system would appear as a service so that we could store an image ID in Sybase, select the ID in a textField, press the "Display Image" menu command, and the image management system would do what's necessary to find, display, and provide a means of paging through the image. For a new image, I'd like for the image management system to assign a unique ID which I could store in Sybase. If you are aware of or use such an app/service, please let me know. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov(L J "Jim" Kiraly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EXTRAREAD OCR Software -- WHO?? Date: 19 Jul 1994 15:53:43 GMT Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <30gsu7$cti@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> Keywords: OCR Several months ago, we placed an order with GS Corp for the subject software. We can't seem to get a hold of anybody at GS Corp. I would appreciate a note if someome else selling this software- or if anyone knows what happened to GS Corp. -- __________________________________________________________________ Jim Kiraly- jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov- NASA Lewis Research Center ----------------- NeXT Mail preferred ----------------------------
From: chris@sucre.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HQX Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:06:07 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <30h15v$lej@taloa.unice.fr> A simple question : how can I use hqx files (xxx.hqx) on a NeXT station ? What is this kind of file ? Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- TAGGIASCO Christian Universite de Nice sophia Antipolis. email : chris@doublon.unice.fr
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: frame not printing correct font Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:30:08 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <30gv2g$4m@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes: > hi > > i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in > a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple > years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried > to print the documents on this printer but they come out in > a courier type font. > Frame does not properly fill the %%DocumentFonts comment, so NEXTSTEP does not automatically download fonts for you. I used to print to a ps file and edit it by hand, but that got real tedious. Finally, I got fed up enough to write a filter that takes care of things for me. Here it is: **************************** cut here ************************ #!/bin/sh # Written by: Ray Ghanbari (ray@mayo.edu) # Original 3/2/94 # # NO WARRENTY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. # # This file acts as a preprocessor for the npd-lpr utility. What it does # is inserts the proper fonts into a print job for files printed from # FrameMaker 3.0.1. This is necessary to work around a bug in # FrameMaker that prevents the OS from insert the proper fonts when # printing to non-NeXT PostScript printers. # # How to install: # 1. As root, rename /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd-lpr to # npd-lpr.original # If you rename it to something other than that, you'll have to # change the NPD_LPR_NAME variable in the new npd-lpr file. # 2. Put the new npd-lpr file (this file) in /usr/lib/NextPrinter. # 3. Modify the PPDFILE variable below to point to the ppd file for # your particular printer (it is set up for a HP4m by default) # # Name of the original NeXT supplied npd-lpr file NPD_LPR_NAME=npd-lpr.original # Replace the following with the PPD file for the printer # you are using PPDFILE=/NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/HP_LaserJet_4_PostScript_6 00DPI.ppd # Save the .ps being piped to us SPOOLFILE=/tmp/tmpstdin cat > $SPOOLFILE # Only bother fixing things if a FrameMaker file if ((bm -s -c "%%Creator: FrameMaker" $SPOOLFILE) > /dev/null ) then echo "%!PS-Adobe-2.0" > /tmp/tmpfonts # Frame 3.0.1 uses mymakefontmetric when changing fonts so dig all those # out and print as a font list cat $SPOOLFILE \ | awk '$5 == "mymakefontmetric" {print substr($2,2,(length($2)-2))}' \ | sort -u > /tmp/tmpfontlist # Dig out the names of fonts built into the printer by using the PPD file cat $PPDFILE | awk '$1 == "*Font" {print substr($2,1,(length($2)-1))}'\ | sort -u > /tmp/tmpppdlist # Use fontloaded to get the PS forms of all the fonts that the printer # doesn't have. Strip the front since we don't need it. fontloader `comm -23 /tmp/tmpfontlist /tmp/tmpppdlist` \ | tail +7 >> /tmp/tmpfonts # Put the spool file together with the fonts file cat /tmp/tmpfonts $SPOOLFILE > /tmp/final.ps # Now move it to where the orignal spool file was mv /tmp/final.ps $SPOOLFILE # Clean up the temp files rm /tmp/tmpfonts /tmp/final.ps /tmp/tmpfontlist /tmp/tmpppdlist fi # Call the real print program so that the document gets printed. # $* passes all the original arguments that were passed to us in # the first place. /usr/lib/NextPrinter/$NPD_LPR_NAME $* $SPOOLFILE # Clean up rm $SPOOLFILE ******************** cut here *********************** I'm sure some perl hacker could do this in one line, but the above works for me. Good luck... -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: frame not printing correct font Message-ID: <1994Jul19.162235.14147@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:22:35 GMT In article <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes: * i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing * documents in a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser * printer for a couple years. the group got an hp laserjet * 4m last month and i tried to print the documents on this * printer but they come out in a courier type font. * the frame doc shows the correct font on the screen. it * prints correctly to the NeXT Laser printers. other apps * can print the AuChampion font correctly to the laserjet. * FrameMaker is the only app that will not print this font * to the laserjet. * has anyone seen a problem like this and if so, anyone have * a fix? You probably need to download the font(s) to the printer prior to printing your documents. When you bought NEXTSTEP format fonts from us [Trilithon Software] a few months ago we supplied a downloader utility with the fonts. Use the downloader to download the fonts to the printer. * ugh. i've written frame as well so maybe (?) they'll * respond too. In a pigs ear. Frame ``technical'' ``support'' have been directing their users to ME for help installing fonts for use with Frame on Sun systems. ........ Henry
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 4.0: make the region more fragile? Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:22:23 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <30h24f$28d@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <30eo8f$4lv@fungusaur.wizards.com> In article <30eo8f$4lv@fungusaur.wizards.com> rjrjr@mendocino (Ray Ryan) writes: > When the region is active and I type at it, I want it to be replaced by > what I type. If I paste/yank at it, I want it replaced by the stuff in .... I posted a similar question to gnu.emacs.help, because I too was interested in the answer. The best response so far was: >Just put: > > (if (not (and (boundp 'window-system) window-system)) > () > (transient-mark-mode t) > (delete-selection-mode t)) > >in your ~/.emacs. (Simon.Marshall@launchpad.unc.edu ) However, this does not handle the "paste over" situation. -jamey. -- *=============Stanford=student,=Cal=Fan.==Go=Bears.=============* James Nielsen )|( Phone: (415) 725-1597 nielsen@leland.stanford.edu (o o) NeXTmail welcome *===========================ooO-(_)-Ooo=========================*
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HQX Date: 19 Jul 1994 18:24:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <30h5op$g7u@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <30h15v$lej@taloa.unice.fr> In article <30h15v$lej@taloa.unice.fr>, Taggiasco Christian <chris@sucre.unice.fr> wrote: > > A simple question : how can I use hqx files (xxx.hqx) on a NeXT >station ? What is this kind of file ? > > They're Macintosh compressed files. You would need a) a mac emulator like Executor or b) a real Macintosh to run them. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Slip Config Troubles Date: 19 Jul 1994 20:58:36 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <30heps$khv@gateway.wiltel.com> I'm istalling PNI 1.9 on a Intel box and am having troubles. I have everything configured, but am having trouble logging into the slip server. I am dialing and connecting, but when it tries to login, I get: TTY tty: Login to 4104 with unix failed can't read "username": no such variable can't read "username": no such variable while executing "$DIALER xmit "$username..." (procedure "login-unix" line 39) ... As shown, I am using the login-unix.tcl script file. For some reason, the script file is either not finding my SECRETFILE or not reading is properly(I think). Any Ideas??? -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*22=M(&ES=&%L M;&EN9R!03DD@,2XY(&]N(&$@26YT96P@8F]X(&%N9"!A;2!H879I;F<@=')O M=6)L97,N($D@:&%V92!E=F5R>71H:6YG(&-O;F9I9W5R960L(&)U="!A;2!H M879I;F<@=')O=6)L92!L;V=G:6YG(&EN=&\@=&AE('-L:7`@<V5R=F5R+B!) M(&%M(&1I86QI;F<@86YD(&-O;FYE8W1I;F<L(&)U="!W:&5N(&ET('1R:65S M('1O(&QO9VEN+"!)(&=E=#I<"EP*5%19('1T>3H@3&]G:6X@=&\@-#$P-"!W M:71H('5N:7@@9F%I;&5D(&-A;B=T(')E860@(G5S97)N86UE(CH@;F\@<W5C M:"!V87)I86)L95P*8V%N)W0@<F5A9"`B=7-E<FYA;64B.B!N;R!S=6-H('9A M<FEA8FQE7`H@("`@=VAI;&4@97AE8W5T:6YG7`HB)$1)04Q%4B!X;6ET("(D M=7-E<FYA;64N+BXB7`H@("`@*'!R;V-E9'5R92`B;&]G:6XM=6YI>"(@;&EN M92`S.2E<"B`@+BXN7`I<"D%S('-H;W=N+"!)(&%M('5S:6YG('1H92!L;V=I M;BUU;FEX+G1C;"!S8W)I<'0@9FEL92X@1F]R('-O;64@<F5A<V]N+"!T:&4@ M<V-R:7!T(&9I;&4@:7,@96ET:&5R(&YO="!F:6YD:6YG(&UY(%-%0U)%5$9) M3$4@;W(@;F]T(')E861I;F<@:7,@<')O<&5R;'DH22!T:&EN:RDN($%N>2!) M9&5A<S\_/UP*7`HM+5P*?%1E<G)Y($UA<G)S7`I\=&5R<GE?;6%R<G-`=VEL M=&5L+F-O;5P*?%=I;%1E;`D)"0D@?"`@("`@("`@("!.95A4;6%I;"!/2R!< $"@I]"F-O `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu Subject: SUMMARY: frame not printing correct font Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Ct7In6.1I13@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 21:35:30 GMT References: <Ct5MMx.FEL@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Keywords: framemaker frame font fontloader original problem: > i have frame 3 on a NeXT cube. i have been printing documents in > a font called AuChampion on a NeXT Laser printer for a couple > years. the group got an hp laserjet 4m last month and i tried > to print the documents on this printer but they come out in > a courier type font. > > the frame doc shows the correct font on the screen. > it prints correctly to the NeXT Laser printers. > other apps can print the AuChampion font correctly to the laserjet. > FrameMaker is the only app that will not print this font to > the laserjet. thank you to all who responded. what i did to get framemaker to print the font correctly on our laserjet 4m was to use the fontloader command to download the font to the printer. see the manpage for fontloader for details. it appears that i will have to download fonts each time the printer is turned off. kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where are the FAQ ? Date: 19 Jul 1994 22:40:12 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <30hkoc$98b@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1994Jul19.120625.15171@object-factory.fr> In article <1994Jul19.120625.15171@object-factory.fr> alain@ninja.fdn.org (Alain Kaufmann) writes: > Well, I m looking for the NeXT FAQ. I'd also like to know where they are. I looked in ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.answers but didn't see anything about the next faqs. And ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.sys.next* doesn't exist. My news server removes articles from comp.sys.next.* when they're a week old, so if I'm busy I miss the FAQ postings. It would be nice if they were archived somewhere. Eric
From: mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .N.b extensions? Date: 19 Jul 1994 23:39:56 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <30ho8c$ldk@gateway.wiltel.com> Does ANYONE know what a .N.b file extension means? I was under the impression that it was an compressed app, but I know not what it is compressed with. HELP mike_zemina@wiltel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ddulfer@sedra.corp.mot.com (Dave Dulfer) Subject: Mosaic Message-ID: <Ct7Ks8.Bo9@pts.mot.com> Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 22:21:44 GMT Is there a Mosaic client for the NeXT? If so, where can I get it.
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 19 Jul 1994 19:41:13 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407200040.AA04847@hsun22> > In article <Ct3K1z.17A@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) > writes: > > In article <Ct2Ht8.EDJ@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > > > > > As for sounds, They don't work yet, I think this is due to the fact > > > that files on the net are .au files and NeXT inherently reads .snd > > > not .au I would love it if somebody wrote a .au player, ANYBODY???? > > > > Well, GISO.app (based on sox - SOund eXchange) converts to/from > > different sound formats to/from the .snd format. Maybe you can use that? > > > > Better yet, maybe the folks at Omni Development can use the sox program > > itself to build a built-in player to OmniWeb? :) > > --- > > Dino Bagdadi > > > > Blackmaus Design > > 305.935.6325 > > > > dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) > > PGP key available on request. > > -- > > Dino Bagdadi > > > > Blackmaus Design > > 305.935.6325 > > I've played sounds with the .au extension simply by changing the > extension to .snd. I'm not sure, but does this not work everytime?? > There are a number of issues here. (1) Sun's .au format has the same structure (same header etc) as NeXT's .snd format. The various sound format types have the same identifiers. This is good. :-) (2) Some Suns use a compression technique, ADPCM, which is not supported by NeXTs. Whilst the file is therefore recognised, the NeXT can't do anything with it. This is a shame. (3) Sun have released ADPCM compression and decompression code into the public domain -- unfortunately it doesn't work "as is" natively with NeXT's .snd files. Ho hum. (4) I've tweaked the code and made it work with .snd files, and will give it away to anybody who wants it. Hooray! :-) (5) I'm currently stuck in Japan without regular access to a NeXT, which can't send out mail anyway, very poor Internet connections, and not much spare time. :-( (6) A while ago I sent a copy of the code to the wonderful folks at Omni... There's a chance they might be able to take time out from developing applications which earn them revenue as well as respect and kudos and fold the ADPCM stuff into OmniWeb. Ooooh! (7) This helps for .au files, but not other formats, such as WAV and AIFF, which appear to be quite common. :-( (8) I've written Categories of Sound which read WAV and AIFF files, Workspace inspectors for them, and started on a SoundPlayer which reads them too. These will be put in the public domain, and sent them to a number of people by NeXTMail already. Yeehah! (9) See (5). :-(( (10) I've also written a filter service for WAV and AIFF files (and could easily do one for .au files as well -- except see (5) again). Gasp! (11) I`ve found out why it doesn't work: the Sound object, unlike the Image Object, doesn't support filters. Waaaaargh! :-(( (12) People who would like these to work might consider asking NeXT please to add this functionality in NS 3.3. Nudge nudge! (13) In addition to telling me about the limitation in the Sound object's functionality, however, Ali Ozer (@NeXT) kindly pointed out that the addition of just a couple of simple lines of code would allow apps to accept Sound filter Serivces. I'm not sure what these are (without access to NS developer over here <sigh>), but I'm sure Omni can figure it out and add them... cf comments in (6). <Waits with bated breath> (14) There is no comment (14), I just didn't want to end on (13). I hope this may be of some help... Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (no NeXTMail, please) ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: psutils on NeXT??? Date: 19 Jul 1994 23:37:26 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <30ho3m$fv@machthenext.dannug.dk> Hi, Does anyone know where I can find the psutilities package for NeXT??? I need to rearrange a PostScript file into a signature, and I have looked several places, but cannot seem to find them.... thanks, best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: EXTRAREAD OCR Software -- WHO?? Date: 20 Jul 1994 01:36:20 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Message-ID: <30hv2k$t7n@nkosi.well.com> References: <30gsu7$cti@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> Keywords: OCR jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov(L J "Jim" Kiraly) writes: >Several months ago, we placed an order with GS Corp for the subject >software. We can't seem to get a hold of anybody at GS Corp. I would >appreciate a note if someome else selling this software- or if anyone >knows what happened to GS Corp. >-- >__________________________________________________________________ >Jim Kiraly- jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov- NASA Lewis Research Center >----------------- NeXT Mail preferred ---------------------------- They're alive and well. I've been receiving outstanding support from them, your order must have fallen through the cracks. Send e-mail to support@goldleaf.com. Or you can call them at 415-257-4700 Michael Rutchik Senior Graphic Designer The Clorox Company ludwig2@itsa.ucsf.edu NeXTmail NeXTmonth
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse Date: 20 Jul 1994 02:08:26 GMT Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Distribution: world Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Jul20110827@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> References: <30esdv$o6c@portal.gmu.edu> In-reply-to: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu's message of 18 Jul 1994 21:32:47 GMT >>>>> On 18 Jul 1994 21:32:47 GMT, jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) said: Jonathan> I posted here a few days ago about changing the NeXT mouse Jonathan> speed through dread and dwrite. I was able to get an incomprehendible Jonathan> value for NeXT1 MouseScaling. I had no idea what the minimum or maximum, Jonathan> value could be. Therefore I decided to give NeXT Support a call. Once on Jonathan> the phone with the tech, I was confronted with information that I find Jonathan> totally unacceptable. NeXT does not support chnanging settings accept Jonathan> through the GUI (though they do have and document the dread and dwrite Jonathan> commands), and they will not give out the parameters used, or minimum Jonathan> and maximum values. I am used to using proprietary systems, if I wasn't In NS2.x days, I remember seeing (and playing around with) an app called MouseAccel which ajusted the mouse parameters. It might still be on the archives, you might try that. Presumably, these parameters can change with releases (since it's undocumented) and I guess NeXT will not give out the info officially. They don't want to to be responsible for problems caused later by the "official word". Frankly, I wish they could give out these parameters on a use-at-your-own-risk basis, but it might be too much to keep track of all these semi-official parameters at the NeXT support level. I don't want to sound like a NeXT apologist, but I don't think NeXT is that much worse than other co's in this respect. (other companies probably are wiser and will probably say the official support channel does not know. Maybe NeXT should try that trick too :-) Jonathan> I would have never bought a NeXTstation Color, but I can't believe they Jonathan> would hide information as simple and harmless as this. Especially since Jonathan> they make references to it in their manuals. Now I begin to wonder if I Jonathan> was right to help support NeXT if they won't support me. I have ignored Jonathan> other faults, but this is just proof of major disrespect for their Jonathan> customers. Jonathan> Jonathan Gardner Jonathan> jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN ... posting from kyoto....
From: psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Paul Simpson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD ROM software? Date: 20 Jul 1994 02:35:52 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Message-ID: <30i2i8$am9@pandora.sdsu.edu> I finally got a CD-ROM drive hooked up to my NeXT (Nextstep 3.0), and I'm now looking for the interesting CDs that are out there. I seem to remember that someone has made up some "best of" public domain and shareware type CDs, and there may be others out there of interest. Does anyone know where they are? Any recommendations? (This information is not in the FAQs I have. Is it in a FAQ?) Also, can a CD designed for another computer (e.g. mac or intel) be read by a NeXT? Thanks in advance, Paul PS. Please respond here or via email at psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu My respond to field is not getting updated as I expect and the sun through which I am posting has no manpages for tin. Sorry for the inconvenience. Anybody know how to fix this? P.
From: lcs@shore.net (Harold Leach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 22:40:31 Organization: North Shore Access Message-ID: <lcs.1.0016AD89@shore.net> References: <303nrn$mr0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1994Jul16.083520.3363@seer.demon.co.uk> Summary: PNI SLIP program for NextStep black & white Keywords: SLIP 486 PNI Regarding SLIP programs for 486 NextStep, Louis Mamakos has come out with a free beta of his PNI software. I am in the process of installing it, and, based on the postings of others, may actually succeed. :-) Harold Leach Legal Computer Solutions, Inc. lcs@shore.net ------------------------------------------- Legal Computer Solutions, Inc. 107 Union Wharf, Boston, MA 02109 e-mail: lcs@shore.net
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Unlimited SLIP License Key for TranSys PNI Date: 20 Jul 1994 03:45:56 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <30i6lk$9h@News1.mcs.com> I recently upgraded from v1.6 to 1.9 and didn't catch the indefinite license key for unlimited SLIP usage. I just used the demo key string, but that expires in August. Can anyone send me the key string I can use *forever* ?? thanks, tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtaylor@fullfeed.fullfeed.com (Gregory Taylor) Subject: ppp guidance for the cluefully challenged :-) Message-ID: <1994Jul19.035742.7937@fullfeed.fullfeed.com> Organization: FullFeed Communications (Complete Internet +1.608.246.2701 guest) Distribution: na Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 03:57:42 GMT Yeah. It's been a while since I did any UNIX administering, and I'm still not quite used to these "easy" interfaces for network administration, and I might well be [as mah mothah says] "dumb as a post." But I'm still strugglin' with this. I'm trying to get ppp running on my 3.2 cube, to little avail - as you'll see below. I'm wondering if what I'm experiencing is a common problem which any try Cubemeister can see through in a minute, or whether there's something I should be doing in HostManager.app or what.... Note that all the omissions and additions are done all by my bonehead sef.... I've replaced the sensitive information with brackets [like this]. I'll start with what's in rc.app if [ -f /usr/local/lib/ppp_reloc ]; then /usr/etc/kl_util -a /usr/local/lib/ppp_reloc >/dev/console 2>&1 /usr/bin/sleep 1 /usr/etc/ifconfig ppp0 [local] [remote] down >/dev/console (echo -n ' ppp') >/dev/console fi Here's the contents of the "chatcmd" script chat -v -l LCK..cufa ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT BUSY "" AT OK ATS0=3DT[number] CONNECT "" ogin: [username] ssword: \\q[password] > /dev/cufa < /dev/cufa To start, we run netstat -i: netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll en0 1500 88.0.2 88.0.2.1 0 0 2 0 0 lo0 1536 loopback 127.0.0.1 890 0 890 0 0 en0* 1500 none none 0 0 0 24 353 Good. Nothing there. Now, we run rc.ppp sh -x rc.ppp + [ -f /usr/local/lib/ppp_reloc ] + /usr/etc/kl_util -a /usr/local/lib/ppp_reloc + /usr/bin/sleep 1 + /usr/etc/ifconfig ppp0 [local] [remote] down + echo -n ppp Now, we try netstat -i again. netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll en0 1500 88.0.2 88.0.2.1 0 0 2 0 0 lo0 1536 loopback 127.0.0.1 905 0 905 0 0 ppp0 1500 [remote]1 [local hostname] 0 0 0 0 0 ppp1* 1500 none none 0 0 0 0 0 en0* 1500 none none 0 0 0 24 353 NOTE: I expected to see the thing above [remote]1 as simply the name of the remote host. I'm not sure where the "1" came from.... Okay. So we run the chatcmd script in verbose mode, and here's what we see.... sh -x chatcmd + /download/ppp/chat -v -l LCK..cufa ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT BUSY AT OK ATS0=3DT[number] CONNECT ogin: [username] ssword: \q[password] abort on (NO CARRIER) abort on (BUSY) send (AT^M) expect (OK) AT^M^M OKgot it send (ATS0=3DT[number]^M) expect (CONNECT) ^M ATS0=3DT[number]^M^M CONNECTgot it send (^M) expect (ogin:) 9600^M ^M [remote] login:got it send ([username]^M) expect (ssword:) ^M ^M [remote] login: [username]^M Password:got it send (??????) and the thing exits. So, what have I not told you? Where am I not looking? I keep thinking this *has* to be a simple and utterly stupid thing I'm completely overlooking. Thanks in advance, Gregory Taylor -- I could be happy now. From my seat in the airplane/I could imagine the full enclosures of people/contented and with no needs beyond/private moments walking the fenceline/before joining the others in the night enclosure /that is the final shape of countries/Gregory Taylor/gtaylor@fullfeed.com
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Diagram or pasteup? or Virtuoso! Message-ID: <1994Jul19.190834.23404@cc.usu.edu> Date: 19 Jul 94 19:08:34 MDT References: <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu> Organization: Utah State University In article <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu>, bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: >I'm on a limited budget and in need of a page layout program. I don't have any >exceptionally complicated needs, beyond the ability to mix text, graphics, >different fonts, colors and have multiple pages and the ability to adjust all >of these elements in various proportions and sizes. You may not want either. Diagram is a flow-charting, diagraming app, not page layout. It is has limited text formatting abilities. PasteUp, I have about six copies, 5 unopened. I really hate the interface...you end up having to have so many panels open to set stuff (everything has it's own panel) that it makes work a major pain. But this was back with 1.0...I hear it's better. >Having played around with both Diagram and PasteUp I find myself much more in >tune with Diagram's very intuitive and clean interface, which from my cursory >examinations of both, seems to do pretty much everything I need, and seems to >contain most of the functionality of PasteUp and then some. While Diagram does contain a very nice interface, is is not a very flexible page layout app. I use it a lot, but for making charts, diagrams, etc. Not page layout or illustration. >Is there something obvious that I'm missing in my comparison of the two, does >PasteUp have an array of features that I somehow overlooked which are not >present in Diagram 2.1? The program that you will probably be most happy with is Virtuoso2. It is an EXCELLENT application. We have about 20 people who use about everything on a lot of different platforms, PC's with Corel, PageMaker, ProDraw...Macs with Quark, PageMaker, Illustrator, Freehand...and they ALL would choose Virtuoso every time. In fact, we usually go through some extra steps from the Mac or PC so that we can use the files we receive from our customer's from one of those other systems. It is an excellent page layout tool, excellent Illustration program, has tons of features for manipulating text as text, curves, etc. Supports Multiple pages, I could go on and on. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask. I have trained about 25 people on Virtuoso2, and I use it myself every day. It is a very easy to use, powerful illustration/page layout application. I do not have any affiliation with Altsys (the makers of Virtuoso) except that I am a very happy customer. Virtuoso is the reason we got NEXTSTEP. Coupled with Tailor 2.0 Publishing it slaughters the Mac and PC equivalents. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst/Trainer/Network Admin. slxn8@cc.usu.edu Hell...I do everything. [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
From: daniel@dgbt.doc.ca (Daniel Lauzon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteNow -> rtf/rtfd ? Message-ID: <1994Jul19.202006.16001@dgbt.doc.ca> Date: 19 Jul 94 20:20:06 GMT References: <2okhfn$b0a@steffi.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@dgbt.doc.ca (News user) Organization: The Communications Research Centre I am trying to read a bunch of WriteNow files from white hardware Running 3.2. Any help would be appreciated. (Actually I am trying to read the accompanying notes to UHOOP.) I was told there was an application called ReadNow some time ago anybody know if that is still around or even if it runs on white.... --- Daniel Lauzon daniel@dgbt.doc.ca
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs 4.0: make the region more fragile? Date: 19 Jul 1994 21:36:32 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul19223634@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <30eo8f$4lv@fungusaur.wizards.com> <ROBERT.94Jul19073757@steffi.demon.co.uk> To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 19 Jul 1994 06:37:57 GMT <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> writes: ><rjrjr@mendocino> writes: >>I am a long-time emacs user, and I have become completely addicted to >>Emacs.app 4.0. >Going well so far. >Ray, please fix your Reply-To.. it's currently rjrjr@mendocino Sorry about that. Dave Griffiths has kindly told me I was in the wrong here. I think I must have been using trn at the time. I just tried again and thankfully Emacs picks up the Reply-To: correctly. No cause for alarm.. Again, anybody interested in a mailing list for NS Emacs? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: How to save paper by 2 -> 1 (PS) printing ? Message-ID: <Ct85ss.1y3@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:55:40 GMT Generally, you can choose "Page Layout..." from a NeXT app. And then use "2 up" to print 2 pages on a page of a paper physically. But the "Page Layout..." is disabled on TeXview.app and Preview.app . Is there anyway to do it ? Mr.WONG Sai Kee Graduate Student (NeXTMail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: How to custom default start up of Terminal.app ? Message-ID: <Ct86Ar.258@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 06:06:27 GMT I want to start the Terminal.app with several windows opened set with appropriate title and cd to appropriate directory. I don't know where to find the information. Can anybody give me a pointer ? Thanks in advance. Mr.WONG Sai Kee Graduate Student (NeXTMail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse Message-ID: <Ct6o4A.rA@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <30esdv$o6c@portal.gmu.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 10:36:09 GMT In article <30esdv$o6c@portal.gmu.edu> jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) writes: ... > I would have never bought a NeXTstation Color, but I can't believe they > would hide information as simple and harmless as this. Especially since > they make references to it in their manuals. Now I begin to wonder if I > was right to help support NeXT if they won't support me. I have ignored > other faults, but this is just proof of major disrespect for their > customers. > I completely disagree on this subject. Next definitly has the rights not to document some of the parameters, this allows them to change the actual implementation! >would hide information as simple and harmless as this this is maybe to protect you? They document what they think wont change, maybe they know the mouse Parameters will change? Please think again over the whole subject! Hans
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Export/import in WriteUp 1.1 Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:05:00 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <30issc$lc1@due.uninett.no> What file export/import capabilities will WriteUp 1.1 have? Some kind of WordPerfect read/write capability is crucial to me. Export/import to a third format that WP can read/write is OK. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Eystein Dugstad Sogn og Fjordane Ingeiorhogskule P.O Boks 523 N-6800 Forde NORWAY
From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Date: 20 Jul 1994 16:50:37 +1000 Organization: Zola - Linux - Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <30ihft$1k2@zola.apana.org.au> References: <1994Jul13.193317.2649@prim.demon.co.uk> <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski (rene@rkt.in-berlin.de) wrote: : Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote: : : Hi, if I type "/usr/etc/ping prim.demon.co.uk" when my machine : : (prim.demon.co.uk) is disconnected from the network it says "unknown host", : : but when I bring SLIP up it works. : This is the correct behavior. If an interface is down, it cant do anything. : : Is there an easy way to make this work all the time? : No. It would be an error. If prim is *your* host then you might want to do something (I'm not sure of the syntax of NeXT routing commands but if they're standard!...) # route add prim.demon.co.uk lo assuming lo is your loopback interface. luke. -- Luke Howard, Luke.Howard@apana.org.au URL http://zola.apana.org.au/0/zola/people Utilisez Linux!!!
From: gkj@ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Diagram or pasteup? Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:55:20 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Message-ID: <30ivqo$b19@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> References: <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu> In article <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > I'm on a limited budget and in need of a page layout program. I don't have any > exceptionally complicated needs, beyond the ability to mix text, graphics, > different fonts, colors and have multiple pages and the abilit to adjust all > of these elements in various proportions and sizes. > > Having played around with both Diagram and PasteUp I find myself much more in > tune with Diagram's very intuitive and clean interface, which from my cursory > examinations of both, seems to do pretty much everything I need, and seems to > contain most of the funtionality of PasteUp and then some. > > Is there something obvious that I'm missing in my comparision of the two, does > PasteUp have an array of features that I somehow overlooked which are not > present in Diagram 2.1? > > Tnx! > Diagram is excellent for its' designed purpose. For more flexbility in creating drawings, you should take a look at Create from Stone Design. I find it an extremely useful application that I view as more powerful than Diagram, and faster and easier to use than Virtuoso. I have never used Pasteup so I cannot comment on its features. gary jacobs Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Windows .WAV to .SND file conversion? Message-ID: <Ct89DL.q0@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 07:12:57 GMT In article <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) writes: > Is there a utility that allows conversion from .WAV sound files to .SND files? > mike_zemina@wiltel.com A program called sox does the job. A NeXT compiled version might be in the GISO (garbage in sound out) package. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Diagram or pasteup? or Virtuoso! Date: 20 Jul 1994 12:29:05 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <30j5ah$bt6@news.tamu.edu> References: <30f6jo$gfv@news.bu.edu> <1994Jul19.190834.23404@cc.usu.edu> In article <1994Jul19.190834.23404@cc.usu.edu>, <slxn8@cc.usu.edu> wrote: > >PasteUp, I have about six >copies, 5 unopened. I really hate the interface...you end up having to >have so many panels open to set stuff (everything has it's own panel) that >it makes work a major pain. But this was back with 1.0...I hear it's better. If you have not seen PasteUp 2.5, you have not seen PasteUp. It is completely different now. Faster, reorganized (all those little panels combined into a few), and you can confidently use it to do real work. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: HQX Message-ID: <1994Jul20.122854.6214@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <30h15v$lej@taloa.unice.fr> <30h5op$g7u@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:28:54 GMT In article <30h5op$g7u@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Michael R Conners <mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >In article <30h15v$lej@taloa.unice.fr>, >Taggiasco Christian <chris@sucre.unice.fr> wrote: >> >> A simple question : how can I use hqx files (xxx.hqx) on a NeXT >>station ? What is this kind of file ? >> >> > >They're Macintosh compressed files. You would need a) a mac emulator >like Executor or b) a real Macintosh to run them. >-- Actually, they are not compressed files, they are more like uuencoded files. Opener.app will decode them. -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Export/import in WriteUp 1.1 Date: 20 Jul 1994 12:32:59 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <30j5hr$bv0@news.tamu.edu> References: <30issc$lc1@due.uninett.no> In article <30issc$lc1@due.uninett.no>, Eystein Dugstad <eystein@timotei.sfih.no> wrote: >What file export/import capabilities will WriteUp 1.1 have? > >Some kind of WordPerfect read/write capability is crucial to me. >Export/import to a third format that WP can read/write is OK. WriteUp can import WordPerfect among others. It can export rtf/rtfd. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Message-ID: <1994Jul20.123901.1006@westwerk.cube.de> Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Organization: Westwerk References: <Csz1wD.HH@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 12:39:01 GMT In article <Csz1wD.HH@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: > I have a turbo color and I also must say, that VIRTUOSO !.0 (I m just > waiting for 2.0) is toooo slooow! > Maybe, if I have a quick processor, I can program generously. I would > really hear something about my opinion. > > Manfred > I really can't join you in beating up Virtuoso 2. We are working with Virtuoso 1 & 2 since it came out and we did heavy beta-testing on Virty 2. Our equipment is based on black colorstation (no Turbo, but 32MB). We're working in graphics design and are doing many rather large jobs in Virtuoso (ask Lorin Rivers!). IMHO ALtsys did a excellent job in 2.0, mostly by including multi-page- capabilites. I worked with other graphics software including Macs and PCs and I have to state that the combination NEXTSTEP & Virtuoso is the most powerful graphics-equipment! The only slow thing I noticed is text-editing, but Lorin told me at the Expo that Altsys is working on it. Nevertheless, Virtuoso is one of the most stable products I ever used (together with Tailor) - even in beta! We've done serious jobs with Virtuoso 2beta and printed on imagesetters with almost no problems. Just think of all those production problems with Mac- Software! Michael -- Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) University of Stuttgart 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH Forststrasse 163/1 70193 Stuttgart GERMANY Phone 0711 / 638360 Fax/Data 0711 / 634696 -- ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ University of Stuttgart · 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bens@bleak.phy.bnl.gov (Ben Sternlieb) Subject: Drafting/Drawing Software Message-ID: <1994Jul20.124628.5283@bnlux1.bnl.gov> Sender: news@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Usenet news) Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 12:46:28 GMT I'm in need of a decent Drafting/Drawing program for scientific figures. Any suggestions? I'm running under NS/I 3.2 Thanks, Ben
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Services in Emacs 4.0 Date: 20 Jul 1994 20:18:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <30k0r3$i5p@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Is there any way to make services, like TickleServices, available in Emacs for NextStep? I seem to remember that this was on the list of changes for the next version, but that a temporary fix was available. Thanks, -jamey. -- *=============Stanford=student,=Cal=Fan.==Go=Bears.=============* James Nielsen )|( Phone: (415) 725-1597 nielsen@leland.stanford.edu (o o) NeXTmail welcome *===========================ooO-(_)-Ooo=========================*
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trouble printing with black hardware... Date: 20 Jul 1994 16:51:30 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <30k2oi$33l@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver I never knew printing could be this difficult... I won't talk about all the prior attempts and failures, just the current "This Really Ought to Work" situation. Here's my setup: - '040 25Mhz cube running NS3.0 - QMS PS410 PostScript laser printer speaking through its RS232 port with flow control enabled - Official '040 null modem cable bought from PC Connection whose pinouts I have verified to be those specified by NeXT for an '040 null modem cable. Using PrintManager, I created a new printer (the QMS PS410 appears on the list) and turned on the "hardware handshaking" switch. Still I have what seems to be a flow control problem. What happens is that I get two pages of printout and then a dialog saying that there has been a PostScript error. (At the bottom of this posting I will include an excerpt from /private/adm/messages/lpd-error which shows what happens during a few different tries.) The situation is independent of the application sending the printout. (I've tried it from FrameMaker, Preview, and Edit with a variety of documents; in all cases I get two pages and then the PostScript error.) It seems that after two pages the printer requests that the flow of data stop and that somehow this request is being interpreted as an error. As always, any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, DR ===== from lpd-error: Jul 19 22:15:56 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: localhost:melody - start Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: PostScript error: unmatchedmark; OffendingCommand: ] %^M Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: Status: [Error: unmatchedmark; OffendingCommand: ] %^M Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: Print job aborted psbanner: localhost:melody Job: Installer.rtf - /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Concepts Date: Tue Jul 19 22:37:01 1994 Jul 19 22:37:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: localhost:melody - start Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: PostScript error: undefined; OffendingCommand: shogrestore Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Status: [Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: shogrestore] Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Status: [Flushing until EOF seen] Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Print job aborted Jul 19 22:43:04 localhost Server:QMS_410[268]: localhost:melody - start Jul 19 22:44:48 localhost Server:QMS_410[268]: localhost:melody - end Jul 19 22:46:17 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: localhost:melody - start Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: PostScript error: undefined; OffendingCommand: versions Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Status: [Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: versions] Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Status: [Flushing until EOF seen] Jul 19 22:47:11 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Print job aborted Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!mccaw!usenet From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 20 Jul 1994 17:20:44 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Lines: 51 Message-ID: <30jmdc$oa1@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <9407200040.AA04847@hsun22> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.204.14.70 In article <9407200040.AA04847@hsun22> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) writes: > (13) In addition to telling me about the limitation in the Sound > object's functionality, however, Ali Ozer (@NeXT) kindly pointed out > that the addition of just a couple of simple lines of code would allow > apps to accept Sound filter Serivces. I'm not sure what these > are (without access to NS developer over here <sigh>), but I'm sure > Omni can figure it out and add them... cf comments in (6). > <Waits with bated breath> > Yup. If you can manage to get your filter services out to the world, we'd be very happy to use 'em. In case anyone is interested in the kind of code that Ali Ozer must have been talking about, this is how you ask for filters to do stuff for you without neccesarily knowing what filters are available or what they do. OmniImage does this kind of thing for saving images in multiple formats, NXImage does this under the covers to use image filters, etc.... Pasteboard *pb; NXAtom soundType = NXSoundPboardType; NXStream *stream; pb = [Pasteboard newByFilteringFile:"sound.in_some_weird_format"]; if ([pb findAvailableTypeFrom:&soundType num:1]) { stream = [pb readTypeToStream:soundType]; // Do stuff with the filtered sound. Cool. } else { // There isn't a filter available to turn that file type into // a sound pasteboard. Shucks. } > > Have fun, > > mmalcolm. > > Currently at: > mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp > (no NeXTMail, please) > ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. > 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan > Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 > > #import "corporateDisclaimer.h" --Greg ----------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!serval.net.wsu.edu!news From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Re: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Message-ID: <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University References: <Ct8zL4.28D@eunet.ch> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 18:56:28 GMT Lines: 83 I just thought I would put in my two cents here. 1) the Mathworks has not decided that a port of Matlab to NeXTSTEP is worth the investment. the more people that lobby them, the higher the small chances of getting such a port get. 2) Matlab and Mathematica do different things well. Matlab is in my opinion, an invaluable tool for doing numeric operations. I can not comment on their symbolic toolbox, but the things I have heard have not been overwhelmingly positive. Mathematica is a great tool for doing symbolic algebra. i have found none better. the pattern matcher allows you to easily encode large rule sets to build expert systems. the Signal Processing Packages by Brian Evans are an excellent example. 3) the signal and system id toolboxes are essentially numerical routines, hence, it is no surprise to me that matlab does an excellent job with them. 4) if you want to design a signal processing system and symbolically remove redundant operations, then Mma is the way to go. For example, Mathematica will know that taking a signal, multiplying by 5, then dividing by 5 is inefficient. it would just do nothing to the signal. Matlab on the other hand, would multply by five (in finite precision) and then divide by five (in finite precision) and get you an APPROXIMATE NUMERICAL result. 5) you can not ask Matlab to take a Fourier transform of a continuous signal, such as Sin(t). the signal processing packages in mathematica handle this very well. OK, enough soap box stuff. I am not saying that one tool is better than the other, just that one tool is better for some things and the other is better for others... so, to try and asnwer the question, what type of signal processing tools are out there for NeXT. well, there are actually quite a few. since a NeXT is so easy to program, there are a large number of apps out there that do something related to signal processing. there are a few on my ftp sight, yardbird.eecs.wsu.edu. there are some on the uhoop.uh.edu (i think). you should also look at the ftp sight for ccrma that is either ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu or ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu finally, there is a GPL clone of Matlab 3.5 called Octave (there is also one called rlab, but I use Octave... it is up to a full version number :-)) though it currently is lacking a robust set of signal processing functions, they can all be built easily -robert- Thomas Styger writes > Hi, > > I am looking for a math software that offers a good and powerful signal > processing toolbox under NeXTStep. > > I have been working with Matlab on other platforms (in my opinion one of > the best software), but I don t know if it has been ported under NeXTStep. > Does anybody have some information? > > I got also some information about the signal processing package that run > for Mathematica but they don t seem as powerful as the signal and system > identification toolboxes in Matlab. Does somebody know if such tools are > available for mathematica (commercial or public)? > > Does someone have some suggestion about another good software? > > By the way I was not able to locate a Mathematica news group on the net! -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!puma.cog.brown.edu!user From: love@cog.brown.edu (Bradley C. Love) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: effects processor program wanted Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:47:43 GMT Organization: Brown U. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <love-200794114910@puma.cog.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: puma.cog.brown.edu Does anybody know where I can get a program that will take a signal from the microphone jack and output that signal with an effect added (ie. delay, distortion, etc.)? Thanks, Brad Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!chsun!usenet From: thomas@illiac.lysis.ch (Thomas Styger) Subject: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Message-ID: <Ct8zL4.28D@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Nntp-Posting-Host: illiac.lysis.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:39:02 GMT Lines: 17 Hi, I am looking for a math software that offers a good and powerful signal processing toolbox under NeXTStep. I have been working with Matlab on other platforms (in my opinion one of the best software), but I don t know if it has been ported under NeXTStep. Does anybody have some information? I got also some information about the signal processing package that run for Mathematica but they don t seem as powerful as the signal and system identification toolboxes in Matlab. Does somebody know if such tools are available for mathematica (commercial or public)? Does someone have some suggestion about another good software? By the way I was not able to locate a Mathematica news group on the net! Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnexus!mccaw!usenet From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sound and motion in OmniWeb Date: 20 Jul 1994 17:20:44 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Lines: 51 Message-ID: <30jmdc$oa1@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <9407200040.AA04847@hsun22> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.204.14.70 In article <9407200040.AA04847@hsun22> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) writes: > (13) In addition to telling me about the limitation in the Sound > object's functionality, however, Ali Ozer (@NeXT) kindly pointed out > that the addition of just a couple of simple lines of code would allow > apps to accept Sound filter Serivces. I'm not sure what these > are (without access to NS developer over here <sigh>), but I'm sure > Omni can figure it out and add them... cf comments in (6). > <Waits with bated breath> > Yup. If you can manage to get your filter services out to the world, we'd be very happy to use 'em. In case anyone is interested in the kind of code that Ali Ozer must have been talking about, this is how you ask for filters to do stuff for you without neccesarily knowing what filters are available or what they do. OmniImage does this kind of thing for saving images in multiple formats, NXImage does this under the covers to use image filters, etc.... Pasteboard *pb; NXAtom soundType = NXSoundPboardType; NXStream *stream; pb = [Pasteboard newByFilteringFile:"sound.in_some_weird_format"]; if ([pb findAvailableTypeFrom:&soundType num:1]) { stream = [pb readTypeToStream:soundType]; // Do stuff with the filtered sound. Cool. } else { // There isn't a filter available to turn that file type into // a sound pasteboard. Shucks. } > > Have fun, > > mmalcolm. > > Currently at: > mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp > (no NeXTMail, please) > ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. > 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan > Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 > > #import "corporateDisclaimer.h" --Greg ----------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!serval.net.wsu.edu!news From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Re: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Message-ID: <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University References: <Ct8zL4.28D@eunet.ch> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 18:56:28 GMT Lines: 83 I just thought I would put in my two cents here. 1) the Mathworks has not decided that a port of Matlab to NeXTSTEP is worth the investment. the more people that lobby them, the higher the small chances of getting such a port get. 2) Matlab and Mathematica do different things well. Matlab is in my opinion, an invaluable tool for doing numeric operations. I can not comment on their symbolic toolbox, but the things I have heard have not been overwhelmingly positive. Mathematica is a great tool for doing symbolic algebra. i have found none better. the pattern matcher allows you to easily encode large rule sets to build expert systems. the Signal Processing Packages by Brian Evans are an excellent example. 3) the signal and system id toolboxes are essentially numerical routines, hence, it is no surprise to me that matlab does an excellent job with them. 4) if you want to design a signal processing system and symbolically remove redundant operations, then Mma is the way to go. For example, Mathematica will know that taking a signal, multiplying by 5, then dividing by 5 is inefficient. it would just do nothing to the signal. Matlab on the other hand, would multply by five (in finite precision) and then divide by five (in finite precision) and get you an APPROXIMATE NUMERICAL result. 5) you can not ask Matlab to take a Fourier transform of a continuous signal, such as Sin(t). the signal processing packages in mathematica handle this very well. OK, enough soap box stuff. I am not saying that one tool is better than the other, just that one tool is better for some things and the other is better for others... so, to try and asnwer the question, what type of signal processing tools are out there for NeXT. well, there are actually quite a few. since a NeXT is so easy to program, there are a large number of apps out there that do something related to signal processing. there are a few on my ftp sight, yardbird.eecs.wsu.edu. there are some on the uhoop.uh.edu (i think). you should also look at the ftp sight for ccrma that is either ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu or ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu finally, there is a GPL clone of Matlab 3.5 called Octave (there is also one called rlab, but I use Octave... it is up to a full version number :-)) though it currently is lacking a robust set of signal processing functions, they can all be built easily -robert- Thomas Styger writes > Hi, > > I am looking for a math software that offers a good and powerful signal > processing toolbox under NeXTStep. > > I have been working with Matlab on other platforms (in my opinion one of > the best software), but I don t know if it has been ported under NeXTStep. > Does anybody have some information? > > I got also some information about the signal processing package that run > for Mathematica but they don t seem as powerful as the signal and system > identification toolboxes in Matlab. Does somebody know if such tools are > available for mathematica (commercial or public)? > > Does someone have some suggestion about another good software? > > By the way I was not able to locate a Mathematica news group on the net! -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hypercard-Like Software Message-ID: <1994Jul20.181519.33635@hulaw1.harvard.edu> From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah) Date: 20 Jul 94 18:15:19 EDT Keywords: Hypercard -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio cello@mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hypercard like software Message-ID: <1994Jul20.181725.33636@hulaw1.harvard.edu> From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah) Date: 20 Jul 94 18:17:24 EDT Keywords: Hypercard My apologies for the aborted post. NewsGrazer posted it before I could cancel it. I'm looking for a piece of software that was around a while back that could read Apple Hypercard stacks on a NeXT. Is it still around? What's the name of it? Thanks Sean - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio cello@mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Message-ID: <Ct93yy.FDG@agedwards.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 18:13:46 GMT References: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Chris Saldanha (csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca) wrote: : Latest version (0.95 when I last looked) is FTPable from sutro.sfsu.edu I grabbed this (the tar file), but it didn't contain the executable! Has anybody else had problems, or am I the only one? -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cs252ac2@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Todd "Wanker" Nathan) Subject: Re: Hypercard like software Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <Ct9ss8.2AA1@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 03:09:44 GMT References: <1994Jul20.181725.33636@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Keywords: Hypercard Hi there, Well, there is HyperSense, brought to you in part by me ;'). But available from Thoughtful Software. The status of the importer is not great, but works for a few stacks. Thoughtful Software 616 E. Locust Fort Collins, CO 80524 +1.303.221.4596 (voice) +1.303.221.0841 (fax: I think this is it... ;') <doug@thoughtful.com> <hypersense@thoughtful.com> <hypersense-user-request@thoughtful.com> <hypersense-user@thoughtful.com> You have a good day. by the way, I have posted on the net at Oregon State archive about 15 examples of documents and XModules (extensions to HyperSense). cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/HyperSense See ya! Todd Nathan President, Icebox Software HyperSense-less Geek!
From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Mouse Date: 21 Jul 1994 07:42:45 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <30l8tl$gsu@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again, I posted a few days ago about the mouse question. I still satnd by my words about openness with the info. However someone at NeXT emailed me with the answer, along with somone else. Thanks to both of you for the support. Thats one thing I like about proprietary systems, they breed small close knit, and helpful communities. Jonathan Gardner jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: NEXTIME Movies ? Message-ID: <CtA930.1z5@eunet.ch> Keywords: NEXTIME Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:01:47 GMT Hi, I know this probably has already been asked, but I'm looking for some of the NEXTIME movies that were demonstrated at the Expo. In perticular, the multimedia presentation of (was it Omni ?) made with Create and other authoring tools and running on the NEC stand. Thanks, Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CONF> "A Discussion of Object Technologies", Objectworld Date: 21 Jul 1994 09:24:08 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <30lero$l6u@relay2.oleane.net> Sounds interesting... Denis __________________________________________________________________________ __ 67.54 Sunergy Satellite Broadcast: Object Technologies From: Vicki.Pedretti@Corp (Vicki Pedretti, Sunergy Program) Live/Interactive Satellite Broadcast "A Discussion of Object Technologies" Live from Objectworld, San Francisco July 28, 1994 8:30 - 10:00 am PDT 11:30 - 1:00 pm EDT Why do people want objects? Who wants them? What is coming down the pike? OpenStep on Solaris. NextStep to SPARC native port. (88 lines) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This and more will be discussed during the Sunergy #10 broadcast with guests: JOHN GAGE (Host) - Director of the Science Office, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation STEVE JOBS - Chairman and CEO, NeXT Computer, Inc. BILL JOY - Founder and Vice President of Research, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation CHRIS STONE - President & CEO, Object Management Group, Inc. BUD TRIBBLE - Vice President of Object Products, SunSoft, Inc. In addition, this broadcast will feature excerpts from "An Object Orientation", a play which dramatizes the relationship between life and technology. Also featured will be a LIVE DEMONSTRATION of object technology. This exciting live broadcast will be viewed in over 40 countries. The panel of object computing experts will provide time for audience question and answer and will entertain questions from the worldwide audience via interactive satellite. Don't miss this opportunity to participate in lively discussion regarding the present and future usage of object technology in a variety of arenas. Please notify the Sunergy Office if you will be downlinking the following satellite broadcast. If you have not yet received the satellite coordinates we can provide them to you. If you cannot view live, via satellite, video tapes will be available. Contact Vicki Pedretti in the Sunergy office: EMAIL: sunergy@sun.com PHONE: 415/336-5847 FAX: 415/856-2114 (( Local Information for South Florida: My office in Ft. Lauderdale is sponsoring this event at two locations: Sun Office 500 Cypress Creek Road West Suite 250 Ft. Lauderdale FL 33309 South Florida Water Management District 3301 Gun Club Road West Palm Beach, FL Please call (305) 776 7770 if you plan to attent either of these locations. Note that many Sports bars in the US feature Satellite dishes that can be used to pick up this event. Some will host Sunergy for the extra lunch business! -johnj )) -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ "Soyez vous memes, reellement, connectes au monde de l'INTERNET -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ "Soyez vous memes, reellement, connectes au monde de l'INTERNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: troubles with DOS 6.2 and NextStep 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> From: sergio@black.cs.unitn.it (Sergio Cagol) Date: 18 Jul 94 16:09:31 +0100 I have an Intel 486 dx2 66MHz (compaq), with a DOS 6.0 partition and a NextStep 3.2 partition. I want to upgrade the DOS partition to DOS 6.2. If i do the upgrade i can't use NextStep, i can't choose between DOS and Next. How can I upgrade to 6.2? Any help is appreciated. Sergio
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Date: 21 Jul 1994 13:50:46 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <30lufm$4v9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> In article <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) writes: > Mathematica is a great tool for doing > symbolic algebra. i have found none better. the pattern matcher allows > you to easily encode large rule sets to build expert systems. the Signal > Processing Packages by Brian Evans are an excellent example. > Can you please post whether the MMA signal processing package mentioned above is available via ftp and where it might be found? Thanks! -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Re: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Message-ID: <CtAtKt.H2p@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University References: <30lufm$4v9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:24:28 GMT The Mathematica Signal Processing Packages, written by Brian Evans, are available from MathSource (in at least one form), and the latest version is always available via anonymous ftp from eedsp.gatech.edu. In addition, I have written several notebooks for an introductory signals and systems course we teach here at WSU that are also available via anonymous ftp. My series of lecture notes, which extensively rely on the signal processing packages, are available from yardbird.eecs.wsu.edu. they are in pub/Notebooks (I think). There are also PostScript versions of the Notebooks since some of them will not render all of the typeset equations on a non NeXT machine. =Mark Powell writes > In article <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto > Bamberger - Faculty) writes: > > Mathematica is a great tool for doing > > symbolic algebra. i have found none better. the pattern matcher allows > > you to easily encode large rule sets to build expert systems. the Signal > > Processing Packages by Brian Evans are an excellent example. > > > Can you please post whether the MMA signal processing package mentioned > above is available via ftp and where it might be found? Thanks! > > -- > Dr. Mark D. Powell > Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) > NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) > Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402 -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) Subject: barcode software for nextstation? Message-ID: <CtAwtL.G80@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Organization: UTCC Public Access Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:34:33 GMT I'm interested in any available public domain or commercial barcode making programs for the NextStation. email appreciated. thanx
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: troubles with DOS 6.2 and NextStep 3.2 Date: 21 Jul 1994 17:15:04 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <30maeo$1ih@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> In article <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> writes: :I have an Intel 486 dx2 66MHz (compaq), with a DOS 6.0 partition and a :NextStep 3.2 partition. I want to upgrade the DOS partition to DOS 6.2. :If i do the upgrade i can't use NextStep, i can't choose between DOS and :Next. : :How can I upgrade to 6.2? Isn't it nice of DOS 6.2 to remove our booter? After you upgrade, what you want to do is use DOS's fdisk to set the active partition to NEXTSTEP, then reboot. You'll now boot into NEXTSTEP automatically. Log in as root and do the following to replace the boot sector: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a (using /dev/rhd0a instead if you have an IDE drive). For more information, see NeXTanswers document 1470. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Re: How to save paper by 2 -> 1 (PS) printing ? Message-ID: <Ct9t82.Bw0@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong References: <Ct85ss.1y3@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 03:19:13 GMT Thanks to Alois. I know that psnup can help. I am still wondering why such demanding task is missed from the superior NS app(s) and let us do it in command line manner ? SK
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drafting/Drawing Software Date: 21 Jul 1994 18:50:59 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <30mg2j$mjd@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <1994Jul20.124628.5283@bnlux1.bnl.gov> In article <1994Jul20.124628.5283@bnlux1.bnl.gov> bens@bleak.phy.bnl.gov (Ben Sternlieb) writes: > > I'm in need of a decent Drafting/Drawing program for scientific figures. > Any suggestions? I'm running under NS/I 3.2 > > Thanks, > Ben I'd recommend you check out GraphBuilder which also includes a pretty complete set of 2-D drawing tools. It's pretty nice in that you can define the scales of the view so you can work in "natural" coordinates rather having to work with screen dimensions. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Subject: HP/NS -- When? Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <CtB11v.26CM@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 19:05:55 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Is there any word on when we will actually be able to buy NEXTSTEP for the HP PA-RISC machines? I assume that it will be pretty soon now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:13:27 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jul21.121327.8219@cyantic.com> I am looking for opinions about software for managing a multi-user development project. Is Project Builder robust enough to handle a project with up to six developers? How about Check-it-out? If I remember correctly, this was a file control application but I never saw any reviews of it. Any and all responses are welcome. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.sys.next.software From: andy@godel (Andrew Burday) Subject: ftp URL causes problems Message-ID: <1994Jul21.194236.12025@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 19:42:36 GMT Hello All. I'm writing a home page for my department, and I want to put in a link to ftp://princeton.edu. I cannot connect to that site with any browser I have available. Unfortunately, that particular ftp site is probably the most useful one on the entire Internet to several users at my site! I realize that there are about 18 gazillion flavors of ftpd out there, many of them evil. But if anybody has a suggestion about how to make this connection work, it would be a big help to me. I am using a NeXT cube running NextStep 3.0. I have three different browsers available: lynx 2.3, Xmosaic 2.4, and OmniWeb 0.7.4.1 (a NextStep-only browser). All of them will normally follow ftp:// URL's with no problems. However, none of them will allow me to connect to ftp://princeton.edu. I've tried different variations on the name (eg, ftp://princeton.edu/). I've tried passing the url to lynx on the command line and by using g(oto). No matter which browser I use or how I try to open the URL, I always get a "Document Not Available" (or equivalent) error. I have no problems using my ftp client to connect to this particular server, so the problem is not just a DNS problem or something like that. Mosaic on the Mac WILL connect to this server. I had at least one report that XMosaic on a Sun would also connect. So it seems very likely that at least Mosaic, if not OmniWeb or Lynx, ought to be able to connect to this server. Someone at Princeton was kind enough to check this out for me. He claims to have no problems using xmosaic to connect to the ftp server from his site. (I don't know what platform he's using.) He also grepped through their ftpd log. It looks like my problem is that none of my browsers is passing their ftpd my domain name, when the ftpd asks for a password. Instead of having andy@philo.mcgill.ca, the log showed andy@. The only configuration file I can find that appears to have anything to do with this is my .lynxrc, where the personal_mail_address variable is correctly set. Does anyone have any idea what to do about this? Again, the problem appears to be that all three browsers that I have refuse to pass my full e-mail address to an ftp server when the ftp server asks for a password. However, it appears that XMosaic on at least some platforms will pass along an e-mail address, so there's reason to think it ought to do the same on the NeXT. I would appreciate replies by email, since I rarely read this group. Thanks, Andrew Burday andy@philo.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: barcode software for nextstation? Message-ID: <CtB4Gp.Lnn@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CtAwtL.G80@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:19:36 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <CtAwtL.G80@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> you wrote: >>I'm interested in any available public domain or commercial barcode >>making programs for the NextStation. >> >>email appreciated. >> >>thanx BARCODEKIT Hot Technologies Bar code device support classes Price: Call Availability: Motorola now, Intel now 617-252-0088 617-876-8901 fax info@hot.com BARCODEPALETTE BenaTong Bar code palette Price: $169.95 Availability: Motorola now, Intel now 614-276-7859 614-276-7859 fax info@benatong.com ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/AsciiFiles/General_NeXT_Information/Third_Party_P roducts -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Signal processing tools under NeXT? Date: 21 Jul 1994 20:31:43 GMT Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30mlvf$bg2@mack.einet.com> References: <30lufm$4v9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Keywords: Signal Processing In article <30lufm$4v9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: > In article <Ct95y5.8ns@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto > Bamberger - Faculty) writes: > > Mathematica is a great tool for doing > > symbolic algebra. i have found none better. the pattern matcher allows > > you to easily encode large rule sets to build expert systems. the Signal > > Processing Packages by Brian Evans are an excellent example. > > > Can you please post whether the MMA signal processing package mentioned > above is available via ftp and where it might be found? Thanks! > > -- > Dr. Mark D. Powell > Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) > NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) > Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402 This package can be ftp'd from eedsp.gatech.edu as Mathematica/SigProc2.0.tar.Z. Knock yourself out, it's a great package! Howard -- ,,, (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~(_)~~OOo~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@zia.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "Leaders on the trailing Albuquerque, NM 87106 | edge of technology" Voice: (505) 843-7364 | Fax: (505) 243-2653 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: janet@elizabeth (Janet Hufnagel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse seeks large Improv files for Quantrix testing Date: 21 Jul 1994 20:24:16 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30mlhg$srb@fungusaur.wizards.com> Greetings, Lighthouse Design's Quantrix is a powerful new multi-dimensional spreadsheet solution for NEXTSTEP to be released later this year. We're testing optimization right now and need (large and/or complex) sample Improv files, which we can import into Quantrix. The more data we have up front for optimization, the faster the final product will be! The person who submits the most enlightening example/s will receive a free copy of Quantrix when it ships. Please respond to "quantrix@lighthouse.com". See additional information below. Thanks! Janet Hufnagel Customer Support and Training Lighthouse Design, Ltd. We don't have an email size limit. If you can't send a file, perhaps you could describe the structure of your spreadsheet so that we can understand the bottlenecks, using the following questions. 1) How big (MB) is the file? 2) List the tables, categories and number of items on each category. ie: Table 1 A - 12 items B - 2,345 items Table 2 A - 2 items B - 3 items etc. 3) How many formulae in the spreadsheet? 4) How many of those formulae use the selectsum, selectavg, selectstd, etc functions? 5) How many of those formulae use the avg, sum, std, etc functions? 6) What sort of operations are slow? Entering data, creating new items? 7) About how long does it take to load the spreadsheet? Answers to these questions would be very helpful, but FAR MORE helpful would be files to experiment with.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: troubles with DOS 6.2 and NextStep 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jul21.220226.21007@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> <30maeo$1ih@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:02:26 GMT In article <30maeo$1ih@rosie.next.com> estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) writes: >In article <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> writes: >:How can I upgrade to 6.2? >Isn't it nice of DOS 6.2 to remove our booter? After you upgrade, what I found that when installing DOS after installing NEXTSTEP, I didn't lost my booter. I don't know if its upgrading that's the problem (I installed to an empty partition) but I did two non-standard things. 1) When setup suggested formatting C:, I exited and formatted it by hand. 2) When I re-ran setup, and it finished installing, and presented me with an option to reboot my machine by hitting return, I did a Control-Alt-Delete. I don't know if either of these two prevented the booter from being written, or if it was because I just did a vanilla install, but it worked, and I could still boot NEXTSTEP (by default too) after installing DOS 6.2. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: WriteUp 1.1 yet? Message-ID: <1994Jul21.210434.1294@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <Jul.18.22.02.43.1994.28290@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:04:34 GMT In article <Jul.18.22.02.43.1994.28290@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > Is WriteUp 1.1 out yet? They said they would send the upgrade out > whenever it is availble if you are registered, but it seems to be > taking a bit of time.. I don't recall us ever announcing a specific availability date, but we have our fingers crossed for the end of next week. We're going to beat on a final pre-release candidate over the weekend, and if it passes, it will go straight to mastering. The user manuals are back from the printers, so it's just a question of waiting a few days for disk duplication. There will be an announcement when this happens. > It would be neat if they just put it on the archive site. Due to popular demand, we _will_ be putting a full version of WriteUp 1.1 (and PasteUp 2.5, for that matter) on the Stepwise server that Scott Anguish maintains. Registered users will be able to pull a copy and start using it immediately. Demo users can pull a copy and then phone us for a 30-day license key. Again, there will be an announcement as soon as our section is operational. We're working with Scott on that right now. We will send new physcial media, plus a beautiful bound user manual with more than double the pages of the 1.0 manual, new reference material, and half a dozen new tutorials, to all registered users of WriteUp 1.0. This will happen automatically, so there's no need to contact us unless you don't receive anything by, say, mid-August. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) In-Reply-To: mark@cyantic.com's message of Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:13:27 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Jul21211956@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Jul21.121327.8219@cyantic.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 04:19:56 GMT >>>>> On Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:13:27 GMT, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) said: > I am looking for opinions about software for managing a multi-user > development project. Is Project Builder robust enough to handle a > project with up to six developers? How about Check-it-out? If I > remember correctly, this was a file control application but I never > saw any reviews of it. Because a NeXTSTEP project contains many subdirectories, you need CVS so you can handle check-in/out and update with one go from the top level directory. You need... - CVS 1.3 from GNU site - RCS 5.6 from GNU site to replace older version NeXT ships - latest GNU diff - Art Isbell's cvs.postamble from NeXT archive site. We've been using this combo for 2+ years now. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: .N.b extensions? Message-ID: <1994Jul22.054808.4378@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <30ho8c$ldk@gateway.wiltel.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:48:08 GMT In article <30ho8c$ldk@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) writes: ~> Does ANYONE know what a .N.b file extension means? I was under ~> the impression that it was an compressed app, but I know not ~> what it is compressed with. HELP ~> ~> mike_zemina@wiltel.com Mike, The "N.b.<something>" was an encoding devised in the NEXTSTEP archives at the University of Munich, as far as I've been able to determine, and it would be nice if everyone would pick up and follow the conventions. I have temporarily lost my direct network access, so can't just do a quick ftp to double check these (which are by memory)... "N" -- NeXT (black) hardware support enclosed "I" -- Intel (white) hardware support enclosed -- I forget what hppa was assigned. "b" -- binary (compiled) enclosed "s" -- source enclosed "n" -- NIB's enclosed "a" -- assembler source or library... ahh my memory is failing me now.. perhaps someone at Uni-Muenchen will be good enough to post the whole list. The .N.b. should be followed by an archiver extension... .taZ or .taz or .TAZ or .tar.Z or .compressed (collected with tar or gnutar and afterwards compressed with "compress") .tgz or .TGZ or .tar.gz (collected with tar or gnutar and afterwards compressed with gzip) .tar.F (collected with tar or gnutar and afterwards compressed with "freeze") .zip collected & compressed with "zip" or PKZIP.EXE .lzh collected & compressed with lha, LHA.EXE, or xlharc .sit.hqx one variation of the MacIntosh archive formats and on and on and on... There are about 25 archival extensions in common use. Perhaps we'll get an article summarizing in NEXT IN LINE sometime after the 2nd issue which is just about to be "put to bed". In the meanwhile, the table in Opener.app is a pretty good reference. If the file you are questioning was correctly named...it is NOT an archive, but a NEXTSTEP-Black-only executable put on the ftp archives without any "collection" nor "compression". Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Display PS to windows screen dumps ? Message-ID: <1994Jul22.055817.4457@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CszzLJ.Bs5@txnews.amd.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:58:17 GMT In article <CszzLJ.Bs5@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: ~> In article <306l13$fni@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc ~> Debaud) writes: ~> > ~> > I am wondering how I could grab partial screen snapshots ~> > under NS using GRAB.app and transfering those under ~> > word 6 for windows. What I am really interested is ~> > for them to be printed later on a an HP laser III. ~> > ~> > Does anyone has experience with this ? It is impossible ~> > to reassign the // port address on COMPAQ M computers ~> > or under NS. ~> ~> screen shot -> Grab.app -> Save As... (file.tif) -> floppy disk/ ~> NFS shared disk -> import into Word. ~> -- ~> personal opinions Good idea, but you *may* need something on the DOS side to convert the Motorola format tiffs into "IBM" format tiffs. NEXTSTEP uses the "MM" format, and most DOS apps will only handle the "II" format. Conversion is largely a question of "endian"ness, but there are SO many allowances in the Tiff-6 docs, that most programs only handle a subset. If that version of W4W handles .jpg's, you might try using tiffutil -jpeg. You'll lose a little sharpness, but save a lot in space taken up by using the jpeg "lossy" compression in lieu of the lzw compression usually put out by Grab.app. Early versions of GWS.EXE (Graphics Workshop) handled a lot of conversions that were dropped when a more dynamic handling of the variations in graphics adaptors. They may be back now. Avoid PCX if you can! You loose a lot of sizing info. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Message-ID: <Ct2pI5.1n6@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> <306eel$a6v@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 07:15:41 GMT Rodney Price (rprice@reunion.umd.edu) wrote: : In article <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris : Saldanha) writes: : [...] : > : > RBrowser is an extremely useful tool. : > : > It essentially opens a Workspace Manager on any UNIX box, including any : > NeXT box. : I just uploaded it, out of curiosity. I have used Touch.app in the past, : which opens the real Workspace Manager on a remote Unix machine. Why : does RBrowser choose to do it this way? Touch.app doesn't have to worry : about object links -- everything just works. : What happened to Touch.app anyway? I have an old beta copy, which crashes : the machine once in a while. When it works, however, it's wonderful. Touch was never actually released. I was told it was developed for in-house use at NeXT, and was being considered for addition to the OS. At any rate, it is VERY buggy in the beta I have, and is certainly not around for iNTEL or HP. It would have been a very nice addition to the OS. So, to someone at NeXT: Where is it? What happened to it? Are you still using it and not telling anyone? Inquiring minds want to know. :-) Anyways, I still like RBrowser. I haven't managed to crash it even once. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to save paper by 2 -> 1 (PS) printing ? Date: 21 Jul 1994 09:31:05 +0200 Organization: my private site Message-ID: <AXEL.94Jul21093102@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <Ct85ss.1y3@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> In-reply-to: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk's message of Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:55:40 GMT Generally, you can choose "Page Layout..." from a NeXT app. And then use "2 up" to print 2 pages on a page of a paper physically. But the "Page Layout..." is disabled on TeXview.app and Preview.app . Is there anyway to do it ? You can save your file from the print panel as postscript and then use psnup (on your system, but I've never used it) or the pstools (oder psutils? you should find them on the archives) to rearrange the postscript pages. E.g. in the man-page for pstops you will find the complete syntax to rearrange two pages on one side on a a4 sheet of paper. Hope this helps, Axel -- aseibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXTmail welcome) seiberta@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (please no NeXTmail here!) You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: X for INTEL... Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:18:10 GMT Message-ID: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Ok, allright already. Everyone's hiding stuff from me... Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free. Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware. The fact of the matter is, I don't think anyone has made a distribution like this. Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows Client and Server package. What's the status on this? Mail or post. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: MPEG Audio Player Message-ID: <1994Jul22.082109.5140@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <30783p$42g@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 08:21:09 GMT In article <30783p$42g@thot.u-strasbg.fr> jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK) writes: ~> Hello, ~> Is there any MPEG AUDIO player apps for NeXTSTEP ? ~> ~> Thanks in advance for any answer. ~> ~> bye, ~> Jean-Pierre NOVAK. ~> ~> e-mail: jp@axone.u-strasbg.fr or jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr A conversion app for audio mpeg to Sun .au format (among others) which is fully compatible with NEXTSTEP .snd format is available on the Internet Talk Radio home ftp site (calypso-2.oit.unc.edu ) which makes with minor touch-ups for NEXTSTEP. I've suggested it as an addition to Opener.app. The command interface is close to that of compress... HEY NeXT -- ya listening? We should be able to install this as a "filter" and also have sounds "filterable-to", though ideally, there'd just be an addition for direct support of .gsm files. Usage: untoast [-fcpdhvaulsF] [.gsm files...] -f force Replace existing files without asking -c cat Write to stdout, do not remove source files -d decode Decode data (default is encode) -p precious Do not delete the source -u u-law Force 8 kHz/8 bit u-law in/output format -s sun .au Force Sun .au u-law in/output format -a A-law Force 8 kHz/8 bit A-law in/output format -l linear Force 16 bit linear in/output format -F fast Sacrifice conformance to performance -v version Show version information -h help Print this text [un] toast 1.0, version $Id: toast.c,v 1.1 1992/10/28 00:15:50 jutta Freeware (and EXCELLENT). After conversion you can use Workspace sound inspector, Sound.app, SoundEditor.app, or even rename the .au to vox if you decode to 8khz .au uLaw format, and use Mail.app's LipService. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: NS 3.0 is slow! Message-ID: <1994Jul22.082644.5198@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <30evuv$7hg@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 08:26:44 GMT In article <30evuv$7hg@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes: ~> One thing to watch when upgrading: NeXTSTEP forgets to remove ~> multiple-language packages from your system. Destroying multilingual ~> stuff in a hunt-and-kill fashion will cut almost 10-20 megs off of ~> your system. Often you may find things where only the App is thinned, and not the service programs which are part of the .app bundle. I'm not sure about "normal" installation of standard NeXT apps on this one, Haven't checked in a while. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mpeg2 player ? Date: 22 Jul 1994 14:51:02 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Message-ID: <30omcm$20v@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anybody know, if there is a Mpeg2 player for black NeXT? -- ------------------------ Jukka Tainio jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi ------------------------
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Downloading fonts automatically? Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:02:29 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <30lkk5$aem@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo most of our students have difficulties to use the fontloader on our nextstep computers. (sometimes can't find the fonts or they just download a font several times etc...) is there a way to make this process easier? any help/ info would be great thanks Gabor -- Gabor Freivogel GhK FB Architektur Henschelstr. 2 3500 Kassel E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:19:27 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8i=z6D_00iV301yxlB@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 22-Jul-94 X for INTEL... by Operator@net23.com > Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X > package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a > fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows > Client and Server package. > > What's the status on this? Mail or post. If you are willing to spend your time and effort to produce a freely available version of X for NEXTSTEP/Intel, by all means, go for it! People will bless your name. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9407221501.AA08824@network.cfc.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:02:22 -0400 Subject: writing tools Background Info: There is a series of books waiting to be written. Each of the books in this series will be written by one, perhaps two, perhaps three people. All the writing will be done on NEXTSTEP--Intel and Motorola. Each book will be composed of text and graphics of some sort. The objective is to produce both hardcopy and electronic forms of each book. The electronic forms must have some sort of hypertext navigation. Questions: What are the best tools to use for writing this kind of book? PasteUp, LaTeX, Frame, Pages, etc.? And what are the advantages and unique features of each of these tools (please include your religious as well as your factual arguments)? What about revision control software for the projects? Please email me. I'll post a summary if there's interest. Timothy Mills t6882tm@network.cfc.com NeXTmail welcomed!
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Simon Says for NSI Date: 22 Jul 1994 16:17:14 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <30orea$moa@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Is there a version for Intel of SimonSays ? Thanks Oli
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:05:42 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30p1pm$c9o@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> In article <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free. It doesn't exist. The only Intel versions are commercial (cubeX and coXist). -- Todd Takken takken@leland
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Date: 22 Jul 1994 19:39:28 GMT Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> References: <PFKEB.94Jul21211956@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: Revision control In article <PFKEB.94Jul21211956@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes: > >>>>> On Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:13:27 GMT, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) said: > > I am looking for opinions about software for managing a multi-user > > development project. Is Project Builder robust enough to handle a > > project with up to six developers? > > Because a NeXTSTEP project contains many subdirectories, you need > CVS so you can handle check-in/out and update with one go from the top > level directory. You need... > > Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) DRCS from Software Services and Solutions (sss@sss.com) handles full Project Builder directory heirarchies too. And does it with a nice File Browser GUI - drag a file (or directory) out of the RCS archive to check it out and lock it, drag a file (or directory) into the RCS archive to check it in. Very nice. Since I usually develop solo, I haven't had the motivation to use a command-line revision control system. But DRCS is so easy to use, even an impatient coder like myself can reap the benefits. Oh, I'm not affiliated with sss in any way. Just a satisfied user. Howard -- ,,, (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~(_)~~OOo~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@zia.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "Leaders on the trailing Albuquerque, NM 87106 | edge of technology" Voice: (505) 843-7364 | Fax: (505) 243-2653 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 23 Jul 1994 01:06:29 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have more than one OS on a boot disk, no? If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. (not as nice as NeXT ;-) Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: NeXTStep and Novell 3.12 Message-ID: <CtCLwu.9E@wag.ch> Keywords: Novell Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:34:05 GMT We have installed serveral NeXTStep workstations with connection to Novell Servers running Novell version 3.11. No problems! However I have difficulties to set up NeXTStep with a Novell 3.12. Questions: - Has anybody experience with NeXTStep and Novell 3.12? - Is NeXTStep compatable with Novell 3.12 (on line documentation does not give a clear hint). Thanks for your help -Hans- Hans Burkard workstation ag e-mail: hbu@wag.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199407222312.AA238648745@relay2.geis.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 22:24:00 UTC Subject: CD ROM software? >psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Paul Simpson) > I finally got a CD-ROM drive hooked up to my NeXT (Nextstep >3.0), and I'm now looking for the interesting CDs that are out >there. I seem to remember that someone has made up some "best of" >public domain and shareware type CDs, and there may be others out >there of interest. Does anyone know where they are? Any >recommendations? (This information is not in the FAQs I have. >Is it in a FAQ?) Hello Paul, Walnut Creek CDROM has two NEXTSTEP products. One for the Black hardware called Nova and the other for White "Intel" hardware called Nebula. These CDROMs are a collection of all the stuff available from the Internet. All arranged in easy to find format. Most of the stuff also include source code > Also, can a CD designed for another computer (e.g. mac or >intel) be read by a NeXT? Yes, NEXTSTEP can read ISO-9660, Macintosh HFS, and Unix ISO-9660 with Rock Ridge Extensions. Plus the native NeXT format itself. CDROMs like gif picture file collections or other stuff like that work well with NEXTSTEP. For more information contact: Walnut Creek CDROM 1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Suite 260 Walnut Creek, CA 94596 1 800 786-9907 +1 510 947-5996 +1 510 947-1644 FAX info@cdrom.com or eric@cdrom.com (Electronic Mail) Eric "E.T." Tremblay Walnut Creek CDROM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stan@netcom.com (Stanley Perkins) Subject: Where to get NEXTIME software? Message-ID: <stanCtDByC.29y@netcom.com> Summary: I am looking for NEXTIME software Keywords: NEXTIME Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 00:56:36 GMT I am looking for NEXTIME software to use with my NSC running NS 3.2. Where can I find it? What does it cost? If it isn't available for free, is there a demo version? Thanks in advance. Stan -- ------------------------------------ | Stan Perkins | stan@netcom.com | | ASMG, Inc. | (619) 457-1501 | ------------------------------------
From: sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: My cube stops in the middle of the boot process...???!!!,,, Date: 23 Jul 1994 04:34:45 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <30q6l5$mjf@desiree.teleport.com> I have a mac networked (IPT Partner) to my NeXT Cube. Today the Mac was shutdown, while they were networked, and the Next was left running. Arghh, I know better. I came back to find the NeXT frozen. I could not get the machine to react to command-command~ or command ~, so I turned the power off, waited a second and restarted it. The last three lines in the boot sequence are; np0 at 0x200f000 sound0 at 0x200e000 root on sd0 Then comes a couple of empty lines followed by; erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U I do not have a clue as to where to start. I know how navigate the file structure, change some privileges, extremely simple unix stuff. But I do not know how to read a file after I have been kicked into a shell (is that where I am?). I use this machine everyday, any advice would be appreciated....
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse Date: 23 Jul 1994 05:48:31 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <30qavf$2tk@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <30esdv$o6c@portal.gmu.edu> <KAOKI.94Jul20110827@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> In article <KAOKI.94Jul20110827@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) writes: >In NS2.x days, I remember seeing (and playing around with) an >app called MouseAccel which ajusted the mouse parameters. It >might still be on the archives, you might try that. > >Presumably, these parameters can change with releases (since >it's undocumented) and I guess NeXT will not give out the info >officially. They don't want to to be responsible for problems >caused later by the "official word". Some people have short memories... >Frankly, I wish they could give out these parameters on a >use-at-your-own-risk basis, but it might be too much to keep >track of all these semi-official parameters at the NeXT >support level. Once upon a time, NeXT support was *much* better about things like this. See attached. -=EPS=- ------- NeXTanswers (Spring 1992) mouse scaling Q: How can I get my mouse pointer to stop jumping around, and to glide smoothly across the screen? A: Type the following command into a shell window: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "string" Where "string" contains a single value indicating the number of integer pairs to follow, followed by the actual pairs. The integer pairs are (speed, acceleration) pairs. These integer pairs make the mouse movement on the screen dependent both on the distance the mouse was moved on the pad, and its acceleration and speed. When you change the mouse speed through the Preferences application, it creates one of these. Here's the format of a MouseScaling argument: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "N x1 a1 x2 a2 x3 a3 x4 a4 ... xN aN" To give the mouse a smoother motion across the screen, you must make the mouse movement linear (uniform, but slow). This dwrite will do the trick: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "1 1 1" This means that if you move the mouse x amount on the pad, it moves it by kx pixels on the screen regardless of how long it took. (k is the constant which translates the mouse pad coordinate system to the screen coordinate system.) Warning: we cannot guarantee the support of dwrites in future releases, so do not put this in your application or rely on it in any way. QA775 Not-tested for 1.0 Valid for 2.0
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:04:14 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <30qbsu$3vp@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <Ct7Ks8.Bo9@pts.mot.com> In article <Ct7Ks8.Bo9@pts.mot.com> ddulfer@next3.corp.mot.com writes: >Is there a Mosaic client for the NeXT? > >If so, where can I get it. 1) If you have a commercial X implementation _with_ Motif, only a few changes are needed to compile the NCSA sources. Minor stuff, on the order of *** libwww2/HTFile.h.orig Mon Apr 11 11:57:25 1994 --- libwww2/HTFile.h *************** *** 14,19 **** --- 14,24 ---- #include "HTFormat.h" #include "HTAccess.h" #include "HTML.h" /* SCW */ + #ifdef NeXT + #define S_IXUSR 0000100 + #define S_IXGRP 0000010 + #define S_IXOTH 0000001 + #endif *** src/mo-www.c.orig Mon Apr 11 11:58:00 1994 --- src/mo-www.c *************** *** 755,760 **** --- 755,764 ---- char *mo_url_canonicalize_local (char *url) { + #ifdef NeXT + char blah[1024]; + char *cwd = getwd (blah); + #else /* Convex OS apparently sucks. */ #ifdef CONVEX char blah[129]; *************** *** 762,767 **** --- 766,772 ---- #else char *cwd = getcwd (NULL, 128); #endif + #endif char *tmp; if (!url) *************** *** 777,785 **** --- 782,792 ---- cwd, url); + #ifndef NeXT /* Sigh... */ #ifndef CONVEX free (cwd); + #endif #endif return tmp; 2) If you're looking for a native NEXTSTEP (*no* X) Mosaic clone, it's in the works. It will be FREE, and freely redistributable, with no per-seat licensing or other bullsh*t (note that code from NCSA or CERN does have its own restrictions, and while NCSA's are fairly obnoxious, they aren't show-stoppers). -=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:18:33 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <30qcnp$4gj@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> <Ct93yy.FDG@agedwards.com> In article <Ct93yy.FDG@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: >I grabbed this (the tar file), but it didn't contain the executable! >Has anybody else had problems, or am I the only one? The version up for anonymous FTP only supports m68k and i486. Write rbrowser-request@cs.sfsu.edu if you need the HP version. A minor update will probably be released some time next week that fixes a few cosmetic problems. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeffn@cal.DCS-Systems.COM (Jeff Nantais) Subject: Re: Mosaic Message-ID: <1994Jul22.180426.25964@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> Sender: usenet@cal.DCS-Systems.COM Organization: DCS Systems (Alberta) Ltd. Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 18:04:26 GMT Anybody know an ftp site for Mosaic on NeXT? I'm a hardcore Silicon Graphics user with a NeXTstation turbo color at work, amongst a flood of Sun SPARC 20'S, and I want WorldWideWeb access. SGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGIS G Jeff E. Nantais (jeffn@dcs-systems.com) G ISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGISGI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: CD ROM software? Message-ID: <bchin.774934838@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <199407222312.AA238648745@relay2.geis.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 03:40:38 GMT <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes: >Walnut Creek CDROM has two NEXTSTEP products. One for the Black > hardware called Nova and the other for White "Intel" hardware > called Nebula. I've never understood this, and the folks I've talked to at Walnut Creek didn't know either; maybe you can shed some light on this: why are there *two* versions of NEXTSTEP CD-ROMS's? The source, fonts, pictures, documents, etc. are 95-99% the same, and the apps can be built MAB. If you need some space, take off a bunch of the DOS stuff that seemed to just fill space. Why should there be two separate disks for Intel and Motorola? What's going to happen with the HP? Also, the product needs better indexing, either with DL or just more descriptive indexes (kinda like the AppWrapper). >Eric "E.T." Tremblay > Walnut Creek CDROM -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: ajafri@interlog.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EntryCheckForm palette question Date: 23 Jul 1994 09:04:27 GMT Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414 Message-ID: <30qmer$s23@steel.interlog.com> Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows of a version of the EntryCheckForm palette that has been compiled to work with NS3.0 and above. If not, could someone give me some pointers as to how I could convert a 2.1 palette to a 3.0 palette. Thanks. Regards, Amir. -- Amir Jafri ajafri@interlog.com NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Image Processing Apps? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.042152.1789@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 04:21:52 GMT What apps are available for NeXT that are usefull for comparing two very similar images and highlighting the deltas? Some kind of correlation or image subtraction process perhaps. Is Khourous suitable for this? Does it run native NS or does it need X-win? Either PD or commercial apps are acceptable. Thanx in advance for all clues. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) BIX: rlove -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Scott McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Appsoft Image Masks? Tiffany2? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:42:19 GMT Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK. Sender: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk Message-ID: <940723114219.404AACYE.scott@shrug> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I bought Appsoft Image (and a Neuron modem, and black hardware, and stuff from Tecor, but that's another story) and really needed to do some image editing for the first time in a long time. However, the application crashes INCREDIBLY frequently, especially whilst I'm trying to muck around with image masks. Here is what I want to do: I've got an image, say of a bicycle leaning against a building. I wish to paint such that ONLY the bike is coloured. I thought that I would do this with Masks, using the freehand tool I've created a selection of the bike, Inverted, and no matter how many times I follow the instructions on Masks in the tutorial and reference guides, either the application crashes or it simply does not behave as the manual suggests. I thought that the answer would be to click on the "new" button, creating a Mask #1, then "Add" to add my current selection (aks just the building) to that mask, and then to select a paint tool and start painting...I thought that this would only then let me paint on the bike, but it either paints all over the document, or a few tiems nothing has shown up and eventually the app crashes. Is this software entirely useless? I also bought tiffany, but I can NOT afford an upgrade to Tiffany2, no matter how wonderful it looks.... I would be grateful if anyone who has experience with Image (esp if they can use it for more than half an hour without it crashing) could contact me, or a very nice rich person who would like to pay for my upgrade from Tiffany1 to Tiffany2. I'll pay you back after my house sells (we've got a buyer now, so it shouldn't be long). sigh, scott
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic Date: 23 Jul 1994 05:08:37 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30r185$1j5@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <Ct7Ks8.Bo9@pts.mot.com> <30qbsu$3vp@nic-nac.CSU.net> dulfer@next3.corp.mot.com writes: >Is there a Mosaic client for the NeXT? "Mosaic client" is something of a misnomer. Mosaic is a World-Wide-Web client, saying "Mosaic client" is redundant, as there are no "Mosaic servers". That said, if you're willing to settle for a different World-Wide-Web client that looks a lot like Mosaic but isn't, you can grab OmniWeb from ftp.omnigroup.com. Lots of people like it, but it's still in beta. eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >2) If you're looking for a native NEXTSTEP (*no* X) Mosaic clone, > it's in the works. It will be FREE, and freely > redistributable, with no per-seat licensing or other bullsh*t > (note that code from NCSA or CERN does have its own > restrictions, and while NCSA's are fairly obnoxious, they > aren't show-stoppers). OmniWeb is free to the first user on a network, and freely redistributable. Also, it works now. By the time Eric gets his working we'll have made OmniWeb even better. How many people would rather see Eric spend his time writing some software that hasn't already been written for NEXTSTEP? Not like we've run out of needed programs.
From: sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY...? Date: 23 Jul 1994 16:21:01 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> I am trying to fix this myself. However, it is like home brain surgery. I understand that I need to run fsck manually to fix this. What is /dev/rsd0a?
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY...? Date: 23 Jul 1994 18:10:28 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30rmek$nhq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> In article <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) writes: > What is /dev/rsd0a? That refers to the SCSI device with the lowest SCSI id on your bus. rsd0a is the logial name the system assigns to the SCSI lowest SCSI device. If you have a NeXT with one hard drive, then this refers to your hard drive. Yes, it sounds like an fsck job. I got a similar message when I booted my NeXT with two drives connected with the same SCSI id (DON'T try this!). Fsck fixed things. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY...? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 14:42:16 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ciAKG8O00iUyQ1v4oL@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Jul-94 help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECT.. by Jim Sims@desiree.telepor > I am trying to fix this myself. However, it is like home brain surgery. > > I understand that I need to run fsck manually to fix this. Yes. The best thing to try would be to reboot in single-user mode (do a 'bsd -s' from the NeXT ROM monitor prompt). Then do '/usr/etc/fsck /dev/rsd0a', and answer the questions manually (generally with a 'y'). You can use the '-y' option to automatically answer yes, but that can be risky. Take a look at 'man fsck' for more info. > What is /dev/rsd0a? That is the "raw (character) device file" for your boot drive, which programs like fsck and disk can access your hard drive directly. Again, take a look at 'man sd' for more info. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) Subject: SAS Software for NS/I? Message-ID: <jlemonCtEwCL.Mtt@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 21:14:44 GMT I'm interested obtaining a copy of SAS for NS/I (rather than windows/dos). Does anyone have a phone number for SAS where I could get more information? (Or better yet, an e-mail address). Our university bookstore doesn't appear to have the information. -- Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: barcode software for nextstation? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.205610.3736@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <CtAwtL.G80@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 20:56:10 GMT georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes: >I'm interested in any available public domain or commercial barcode >making programs for the NextStation. I once created a PostScript font for Code39 barcodes. If someone is interested, just give me a mail. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:40:00 GMT Message-ID: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have : more than one OS on a boot disk, no? : If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? : Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. : (not as nice as NeXT ;-) Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has to be up 24/7 Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: Display PS to windows screen dumps ? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.180942.16442@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <1994Jul22.055817.4457@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:09:42 GMT In article <1994Jul22.055817.4457@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: > In article <CszzLJ.Bs5@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > ~> In article <306l13$fni@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu > (Jean-Marc > ~> Debaud) writes: > ~> > > ~> > I am wondering how I could grab partial screen snapshots > ~> > under NS using GRAB.app and transfering those under > ~> > word 6 for windows. What I am really interested is > ~> > for them to be printed later on a an HP laser III. > ~> > > ~> > Does anyone has experience with this ? It is impossible > ~> > to reassign the // port address on COMPAQ M computers > ~> > or under NS. > ~> > ~> screen shot -> Grab.app -> Save As... (file.tif) -> floppy disk/ > ~> NFS shared disk -> import into Word. > ~> -- > ~> personal opinions > > Good idea, but you *may* need something on the DOS side to convert the > Motorola format tiffs into "IBM" format tiffs. NEXTSTEP uses the "MM" > format, and most DOS apps will only handle the "II" format. Conversion > is largely a question of "endian"ness, but there are SO many allowances > in the Tiff-6 docs, that most programs only handle a subset. If that > version of W4W handles .jpg's, you might try using tiffutil -jpeg. > You'll lose a little sharpness, but save a lot in space taken up by using > the jpeg "lossy" compression in lieu of the lzw compression usually put > out by Grab.app. > > Early versions of GWS.EXE (Graphics Workshop) handled a lot of > conversions that were dropped when a more dynamic handling of the > variations in graphics adaptors. They may be back now. Avoid PCX if you > can! You loose a lot of sizing info. > > Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY > NEXT IN LINE contributing author > > bruce@TotSysSoft.com > > NeXT-mail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome A lot of our customers use our Pixel Magician application to perform these types of conversions, e.g., screen grabs under NEXTSTEP for inclusion in an application on a PC or MAC. Some observations/recommendations: - In general, we do not recommend writing a JPEG compressed TIFF file. The files produced by tiffutil, when using the -jpeg option, are not JPEG files. They are JPEG compressed TIFF files. Although we have seen some DOS/MAC based applications that can read these files, the majority of non-NEXTSTEP based applications we have seen cannot read these files, e.g., PhotoShop (v2.5.1), an application known for handling many image file formats, cannot handle these files. - For "moving" NEXTSTEP based screenshots to other platforms, we have found that the bit depth ( number of colors ) in the TIFF files are more a problem that the byte orders ( referred to above as "endian"ness ). This is especially true when screen grabbing from a 12 bit system. Many TIFF readers do not handle 12 bit TIFF files. The solution is to either promote the 12 bit image to a 24 bit RGB image ( TIFF class R ) or quantize the image to an 8 bit paletted image ( TIFF class P ). To ensure no loss of color, we recommend promoting the image to a 24 bit RGB. If you wish to do this type of conversion under NEXTSTEP, our Pixel Magician application can handle these tasks. If you want to do the conversions under DOS, we recommend an application called Image Alchemy. Not only can Image Alchemy handle reading 12 bit TIFF files, it is also one of the few DOS based applications that can also read NEXTSTEP, JPEG compressed TIFF files. - For moving images to DOS based applications, we recommend converting either to TIFF or Windows BMP. Both formats support up to 24 bits/pixel and contain resolution ( e.g., DPI fields ) fields. Until you are sure what "flavor" your application can handle, try using no compression if disk space in not an issue. - If the windows you are trying to "grab" actually contain resolution independent information, e.g., fonts, lines, curves etc etc, you will get a better result if you use the underlying application ( if available ) to print/save the data to a PS file. You can then use an application like Pixel Magician or Image Alchemy to smoothly scale the image to the desired size/resolution and then save as a raster image, e.g., TIFF, BMP etc etc, with no loss of image quality. Eric Bloom Bacchus, Inc. eric@bacchus.com ( NEXTMAIL ) 310 820-9145 310 820-5930 ( fax )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <9UMQBUTR@rkt.in-berlin.de> <30677c$545@castle.york.ac.uk> <306lno$ff7@acmex.gatech.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:47:30 GMT Thanks for all the advice (about how to ping prim.demon.co.uk when SLIP is down). I've installed 3.2 from scratch now. "ping prim" now works, but "ping prim.demon.co.uk" still doesn't. I wish NeXT would consider the case of us SLIP people when they're designing their Simple Network Starter software. Anyway, the reason why I need to be able to connect to prim.demon.co.uk is so I can run OmniWeb on my local pages with full http references (I know there are work-arounds) when SLIP is down. So it looks as though I've got to run a nameserver on my local machine. I'd have thought there would be some way of telling the system that the hostname is prim (done that) and the domain is demon.co.uk (don't know how to do that) so that prim.demon.co.uk gets resolved locally without recourse to nameservers. Dave Griffiths PS: Is Netinfo a NeXT invention, or is it "standard" Unix?
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Date: 23 Jul 1994 23:58:23 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> > > > I am looking for opinions about software for managing a multi-user > > > development project. Is Project Builder robust enough to handle a > > > project with up to six developers? Are these project management applications suitable for only software development, or would they also be useable for say developing a car or a building? -- Greg
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Date: 24 Jul 1994 00:46:33 GMT Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30sdl9$srh@mack.einet.com> References: <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: rccs In article <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > > > > I am looking for opinions about software for managing a multi-user > > > > development project. Is Project Builder robust enough to handle a > > > > project with up to six developers? > > > > Are these project management applications suitable for only software > development, or would they also be useable for say developing a car or > a building? > > > -- Greg "Project Management" used in this context refers to managing document revisions as they change over time. At any time, you can tell the software to reconstruct any previous version of your document. Any document can be managed with these tools, not just computer code. Hope that sheds some sort of light. - HRC -- ,,, (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~(_)~~OOo~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@zia.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "Leaders on the trailing Albuquerque, NM 87106 | edge of technology" Voice: (505) 843-7364 | Fax: (505) 243-2653 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: emurphy@cs.uno.edu (Edward Murphy) Subject: (?) WWW client for NeXTstep 2.1 Message-ID: <1994Jul24.005247.23168@cs.uno.edu> Organization: University of New Orlean (Computer Science) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 00:52:47 GMT Is there a version of OmniWeb.app which will run under NS 2.1? Or any other WWW client for that matter. GUI is preferred. em -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Edward Murphy = = = Assistant System Manager = "Well, it's one louder isn't it? = = emurphy@cs.uno.edu = -- Nigel Tufnel, Spinal Tap =
From: sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY***FIXED,THANKS Date: 24 Jul 1994 02:53:19 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <30sl30$d0m@desiree.teleport.com> When I was in high school the computer class students carried around boxes of punch cards. I did not understand computers then and do not now but with you people from comp.sys.next.etc I manage to work with one. Thanks to all the people who gave advice this time and previous times. Jim
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 23:28:01 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ciARz1S00iUvI3PGtR@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Jul-94 Re: Why can't I ping my hos.. by Dave Griffiths@prim.demo > PS: Is Netinfo a NeXT invention, or is it "standard" Unix? It's a NeXT invention. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: troubles with DOS 6.2 and NextStep 3.2 Message-ID: <CtDBvL.G2M@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Jul18.160931.829@cine88.cineca.it> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 00:54:57 GMT Sergio Cagol (sergio@black.cs.unitn.it) wrote: : I have an Intel 486 dx2 66MHz (compaq), with a DOS 6.0 partition and a : NextStep 3.2 partition. I want to upgrade the DOS partition to DOS 6.2. : If i do the upgrade i can't use NextStep, i can't choose between DOS and : Next. : How can I upgrade to 6.2? Don't let it reformat. Boot from your DOS hard disk, and run the setup.exe on the first upgrade diskette. Say "NO" to formatting. After, as I recall, I told it to over-write the existing (6.0) DOS files. It seemed to whine and complain all the way through every question about formatting, overwriting, etc... I went against at least three "default" settings. I never let DOS upgrades format the disk, or erase the DOS directory, because if they did, they'd erase the only good program that DOS ever came with: edlin. ;-) In the end, I ended up with NeXT's boot controller intact. It even left NeXTSTEP as the "active" partition (as any sane machine should). You do have to let it do the reformat if you choose to use Microsoft's Disk Smoosher, or whatever the cheesy disk-compression-program-of-the-week was called. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Windows .WAV to .SND file conversion? Message-ID: <CtDCC3.Gun@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> <Ct89DL.q0@belly.in-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 01:04:51 GMT Axel Habermann (kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de) wrote: : In article <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike : Zemina) writes: : > Is there a utility that allows conversion from .WAV sound files to .SND : files? : > mike_zemina@wiltel.com : A program called sox does the job. : A NeXT compiled version might be in the GISO (garbage in sound out) : package. GISO does contain sox. And it works beautifully on WAV-SND conversions. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: zeno@weeble.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTTIME Compressor support? Followup-To: poster Date: 24 Jul 1994 01:07:45 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <30t7gh$kt@weeble.abstractsoft.com> Does anyone know what Quick Time formats NEXTTIME does NOT currently support? I've gotten a few "Missing or Unusable Animation decompressor" errors. Thanks. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Extensions at the peanuts archive (Was: .N.b extensions?) Date: 24 Jul 1994 09:14:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <30tbd4$4f4@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <30ho8c$ldk@gateway.wiltel.com> <1994Jul22.054808.4378@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: >In article <30ho8c$ldk@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike >Zemina) writes: >~> Does ANYONE know what a .N.b file extension means? I was under >~> the impression that it was an compressed app, but I know not >~> what it is compressed with. HELP > The "N.b.<something>" was an encoding devised in the NEXTSTEP >archives at the University of Munich, as far as I've been able to >determine, and it would be nice if everyone would pick up and follow the >conventions. I have temporarily lost my direct network access, so can't >just do a quick ftp to double check these (which are by memory)... OK, here are the conventions we are using at the peanuts FTP archive at Munich University: "... The files are compressed with GNU-zip (*.gz) and tarred with GNU-tar or with normal unix tar (*.tar). You may want to get and install GNU-zip first. A precompiled and ready-to-run version of GNU-zip is in Unix/archiver/gzip.1.2.3.NI.b.tar For almost every program package, a description file called [NameOfPackage].README or [NameOfPackage].[versionNumber].README exist. The binaries in the archive are available for different architectures. NeXTStep is available on 68k processors ('black hardware'), on Intel 486 and Intel pentium processors ('white hardware') and soon on HP/PA and on SUNs Sparc architecture with Solaris. The file names follow the convention: NameOfPackage.[versionNumber].[architecture].[formOfDistribution].[archivers] versionNumber: the release and/or version number of the program architecture: if the archive contains binaries, for which architecture? formOfDistribution: what does the archive contain? source, binary, both? archivers: file-extensions of the archive program(s) versionNumber ============= The version number can have different formats. Usually it consists of the release and the version number (e.g. 1.04). Release numbers with 0 are normally beta releases (e.g. 0.13) Some packages also use a version number like 920904 or 20.Feb.1993 indicating the date of their release. If there is no version number mentioned, it is the first and the only release so far. architecture ============ The architecture of the binary is a combination of up to 4 letters in a fixed order (NIHS):es. NeXTStep is available on 68k processors ('black N NeXT m68k ('black hardware') I Intel 386,486 and Intel Pentium processor ('white Hardware') H HP/PA architecture from HP S Sparc architecture from SUN (running Solaris) The binary is a Multi-Architecture-binary (MAB) or FAT-binary, if it contains code, running on two or more architectures. formOfDistribution ================== The contents of the archive. A combination of up to 4 letters, also in fixed order (bsda): b binaries for the architectures mentioned under 'architecture' s sources included. The sources may (!) compile on every platform d data file: non-executable binary, source or any other file a library included. The library is for the specified architecture The 'd' and 'a' are informal. They are normally only included, when there are additional files (libraries, sound etc.) beside the binaries or beside the sources in the archive. archivers ========= The extension specifying the programs utilized for archiving and compression of the files. tar GNU-tar or normal unix tar gz GNU-zip Z normal unix compress compressed archived and compressed using the NeXT workspace NOTE: 'Z' and 'compressed' are not supported on this archive! The usual case therefore is '*.tar', '*.gz' or '*.tar.gz'. Examples: ========= tarZan.1.0.N.bs.tar.gz Columns.2.97.N.b.tar.gz DrivePerformance.1.1.NI.b.tar.Z" Regards Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hypercard like software Message-ID: <940724.000217.6G4.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 00:02:17 -0600 References: <1994Jul20.181725.33636@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah) writes: > I'm looking for a piece of software that was around a while back that > could read Apple Hypercard stacks on a NeXT. Is it still around? > What's the name of it? here's the summary: : Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce : Subject: PRESS RELEASE: HyperSense demo available on ftp : Date: 3 Jan 1994 23:37:48 -0500 : Reply-To: info@thoughtful.com : : Mishelle McClure Baun : 303/221-4596 : NeXTMAIL: info@thoughtful.com : : cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/submisions/HyperSense1.00B09b.tar : cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/submisions/HyperSense1.00B09b.README.rtf -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: leslie@mercury.interpath.net (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disk Optimizing Software? Date: 24 Jul 1994 11:52:52 GMT Organization: Interpath -- An Internet access provider Message-ID: <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> Does anyone have reccs for disk optimizing software for NeXTSTEP systems on black cubes? +==John B. Leslie, MD ==== leslie@mercury.interpath.net =======+ (919) 681-5991 (O) Snailer: Box 3094, Duke Hospital (919) 681-2735 (F) Durham, NC 27710 +== 911 for real help ========= lesli001@mc.duke.edu ==========+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) Subject: OmniWeb and CGI/1.1 header question Message-ID: <CtGDwo.60n@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 16:32:55 GMT Does anyone know if OmniWeb supports the CGI/1.1 Expires header? I'm pulling info out of a Sybase database that changes frequently so, each document I return needs to be "Expired" forcing the client to ask for it over again... Thanks for any info, Jeff PS The 0.7.4.1 version seems to have broken some things that worked in an earlier version... The TEXTAREA tag has turned into a scrollview less than one line high that pays no attention to ROWS and COLS attributes.. Printing is no longer smart, lines get truncated. "Select All, Copy" no longer copies images. <pre width=132> will wrap lines when it should just run them off the end. Omniweb also bombs sometimes when I encounter an image that has clickable areas on it.. -- "You are Gunther Heindrickson from Appenzell, you moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Muren." quote from an A! episode. jeff.hallgren@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTML-Editor0.3 available Date: 24 Jul 1994 17:02:11 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <30u6qj$a51@solaris.cc.vt.edu> HTML-Editor0.3 is now available at ftp://scholar.lib.vt.edu/pub/NEXT/. This is an HTML Editor for Nextstep systems which includes support for building forms, inserting character entities, and the complete HTML tag set. It can now call a Web browser providing a WYSIWYG preview mode. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Date: 24 Jul 1994 14:21:12 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <30um08$cgh@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <30677c$545@castle.york.ac.uk> <306lno$ff7@acmex.gatech.edu> <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: >So it looks as though I've got to run a nameserver on my local machine. I'd >have thought there would be some way of telling the system that the hostname >is prim (done that) and the domain is demon.co.uk (don't know how to do that) >so that prim.demon.co.uk gets resolved locally without recourse to nameservers. You can probably add prim.demon.co.uk to the local host table in netinfo. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD ROM software? Date: 24 Jul 1994 04:31:05 GMT Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc. Distribution: na Message-ID: <30sqq9$99r@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> References: <199407222312.AA238648745@relay2.geis.com> Keywords: cd-rom software You might also want to look at the Big Green CD and Big Green Library from Skylee Press. BGCD has been around since time eternal, and includes PD, shareware, and demo software that will run on both NeXT and Intel hardware. With the Walnut Creek CD-ROM, you need to purchase a separate CD for each architecture, effectively doubling the cost and decreasing convenience if you have reasons to own software for more than one CPU architecture. Big Green Library is new, and includes something like 500MB of NEXTSTEP-related documents. (shameless plug: BG Library includes the archives of the coolest e-mail list on the planet, NeXT-icon@gun.com, which I happen to manage. To subscribe, send mail to next-icon-request@gun.com with the word 'subscribe' in the subject.) Both disks are include prebuilt and indexed bookshelf files for Librarian.app. Owning both are required if you're into NEXTSTEP. I don't know the cost offhand, but I think there's a deal for purchasing both. Skylee Press info@skylee.com 1 415 474 7896 (fax) 1 415 474 7803 (voice) Disclaimer: I helped collect software for an earlier version of the Big Green CD. Regardless, I owned a copy previously and regarded it as highly then as I do now. Tim In article <199407222312.AA238648745@relay2.geis.com> <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes: > >psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Paul Simpson) > > > I finally got a CD-ROM drive hooked up to my NeXT (Nextstep > >3.0), and I'm now looking for the interesting CDs that are out > >there. > > Walnut Creek CDROM has two NEXTSTEP products. One for the Black > hardware called Nova and the other for White "Intel" hardware > called Nebula. >
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BBS on a NeXT Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:32:14 -0500 Organization: Amaranth Communications Message-ID: <2.47631789.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com> Looking for BBS software to run on a NeXT. Can someone point me into the right direction. Thanks Mark Pappas Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <1994Jul24.090715.8021@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 09:07:15 GMT In article <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > Anyway, the reason why I need to be able to connect to prim.demon.co.uk is > so I can run OmniWeb on my local pages with full http references (I know > there are work-arounds) when SLIP is down. > > So it looks as though I've got to run a nameserver on my local machine. I'd > have thought there would be some way of telling the system that the hostname > is prim (done that) and the domain is demon.co.uk (don't know how to do that) > so that prim.demon.co.uk gets resolved locally without recourse to nameservers. Either: call your host prim.demon.co.uk or: create a /etc/resolv.conf, containing the line: domain demon.co.uk or: create an alias of primt.demon.co.uk for prim with HostManager. Your machine is a single host, and doesn't control the demon.co.uk domain, so the second option is technically wrong, although easy to manage. > PS: Is Netinfo a NeXT invention, or is it "standard" Unix? Pure NeXT. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser ftp location and impressions ? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.084634.23650@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 23 Jul 94 08:46:34 MDT References: <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> <306eel$a6v@umd5.umd.edu> <Ct2pI5.1n6@cunews.carleton.ca> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <Ct2pI5.1n6@cunews.carleton.ca>, Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> wrote: >Rodney Price (rprice@reunion.umd.edu) wrote: >: In article <Csynv9.Msr@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris >: Saldanha) writes: >: [...] >: > >: > RBrowser is an extremely useful tool. >: > >: > It essentially opens a Workspace Manager on any UNIX box, including any >: > NeXT box. > Does RBrowser work with VMS/VAX yet (like GatorFTP)?
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb and CGI/1.1 header question Date: 24 Jul 1994 18:16:20 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <30v3p4$5q5@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <CtGDwo.60n@news.cis.umn.edu> jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) writes: > Does anyone know if OmniWeb supports the CGI/1.1 Expires header? No, but that sounds cool. The CERN library doesn't support it, but we're looking at writing our own, so if you send us some info on this header maybe we'll incorporate it. > The 0.7.4.1 version seems to have broken some things that worked in an >earlier version... Yup. Don't expect things to get more stable until about 0.9. Right now we're just messing around adding features, and of course that's going to break things. We don't beta test this very much before we release it; that's why we call it beta software! (The problem is that so many NeXT people have released 0.x software and called it beta and then never actually gone golden, so NeXTies have been trained to think beta is meaningless.) > The TEXTAREA tag has turned into a scrollview less than one line high > that pays no attention to ROWS and COLS attributes.. Whoops. > Printing is no longer smart, lines get truncated. Never was smart. I know there's probably a really easy way to print correctly, so I keep waiting for someone in the know to send me a code snippet rather than investigate it myself. Basically, we just tell the view to print, and it's being stupid if it isn't the same size as a piece of paper. I guess I could copy the entire text object into another one that's the right size, but that bites. Any suggestions? > "Select All, Copy" no longer copies images. I don't think it ever did. I keep bugging Greg to fix this, especially since he did it right in Concurrence2. (C2 doesn't use RTFD for its headlines, although you might think so at first.) > <pre width=132> will wrap lines when it should just run them off the > end. Tricky! > Omniweb also bombs sometimes when I encounter an image that has > clickable areas on it.. A lot of bombs are caused by the fact that if you try to follow two links at once, the underlying library blows chow. Thus, if the program is loading and image and you click on a button, or if you accidentally double-click on a mapped image, you can often get OmniWeb to blow up. The CERN 3.0 library is taking steps towards being re-entrant, which will be great. That's why we haven't been concentrating on hacking around this bug, although it's probably the leading cause of instability in OmniWeb right now. We're also considering writing our own library on top of Foundation, but that means you'll all have to upgrade to 3.3 when we release it. Considering the number of people who still seem to run 2.1, this makes me nervous.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: CD ROM software? Message-ID: <CtH9wt.IK7@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <30i2i8$am9@pandora.sdsu.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 04:02:53 GMT Paul Simpson (psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu) wrote: : I finally got a CD-ROM drive hooked up to my NeXT (Nextstep : 3.0), and I'm now looking for the interesting CDs that are out : there. I seem to remember that someone has made up some "best of" : public domain and shareware type CDs, and there may be others out : there of interest. Does anyone know where they are? Any : recommendations? (This information is not in the FAQs I have. : Is it in a FAQ?) The best one I've got (and I have manymanymany at the office) is the new "Fatted Calf" CD that was brought back for me from the show. It has the best collection of source code (all freshly compiled tri-fat), and has many utilities I haven't seen for a long time. Quite a few commercial demo programs, too. : Also, can a CD designed for another computer (e.g. mac or : intel) be read by a NeXT? DOS and Mac CD's can be read on a NeXT. Discs for other UNIXes cannot (e.g. Sun) usually be read, because they "extend" standard formats to the point where they are non-standard. "The wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from." -Someone : PS. Please respond here or via email at : psimpson@sunstroke.sdsu.edu : My respond to field is not getting updated as I expect and the sun : through which I am posting has no manpages for tin. Sorry for the : inconvenience. Anybody know how to fix this? The settings for tin are stored in the file ~/.tin/tinrc --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tip-Top, term and Newsgrazer Date: 25 Jul 1994 00:18:22 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <30veee$e6j@heron.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a I am trying to run NewsGrazer over term using Tip-Top. But I can't get it to work. I have configured my local machine name to be "cobra". I login, start term and in a local shell type "tredir 119 nntp.server:119". This part seems to work fine. But I tell NewsGrazer that the NNTP server is "cobra", it says that "cobra." does not offer this service. Notice the "." at the end of "cobra". I think that this is the problem. Can anyone help? Thanks Frank -- COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Where to get NEXTIME software? Message-ID: <CtHAAq.J22@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <stanCtDByC.29y@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 04:11:14 GMT Stanley Perkins (stan@netcom.com) wrote: : I am looking for NEXTIME software to use with my NSC : running NS 3.2. Where can I find it? What does it cost? : If it isn't available for free, is there a demo version? : Thanks in advance. How about NeXT Computer, Inc. They wrote it. They sell it. ;-) --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Windows .WAV to .SND file conversion? Date: 24 Jul 1994 23:28:15 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407250414.AA09926@hsun22> Chris Salandha wrote: --- Axel Habermann (kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de) wrote: : In article <30gocl$hg8@gateway.wiltel.com> mike_zemina@.wiltel.com (Mike : Zemina) writes: : > Is there a utility that allows conversion from .WAV sound files to .SND : files? : > mike_zemina@wiltel.com : A program called sox does the job. : A NeXT compiled version might be in the GISO (garbage in sound out) : package. GISO does contain sox. And it works beautifully on WAV-SND conversions. --Chris --- I have written a Workspace Inspector for .WAV and .AIFF files (along with Categories for reading these formats directly into Sounds) which I'm going to release into PD asap -- unfortunately net access from here is poor, and there isn't a NeXT with external email, so I'm a bit stymied until a new machine arrives for me in a week or two, then I'll tidy up the code, try to respond to people's requests, etc. If you really, really want, mail me and I'll try to find time to package up the Inspectors as .tar.Z.uue Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (no NeXTMail, please) ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MouseX Date: 25 Jul 1994 00:22:13 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <30vell$e8t@heron.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a I got the MouseX server (developement version), but I am having trouble with getting it to run. I get the following error when running Xfe.app: "XNextPaste: No such file or directory". I am running under 3.2 on a mono non-turbo station. Please help. Thanks Frank -- COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nbufs mystery Date: 25 Jul 1994 00:47:44 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <30vg5g$pal@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> --------------------------------------------------------------------- hi! i have noticed some interesting posts here concerning NeXTStep 3.0 and how much slower it seems than 2.1, 3.1 and 3.2. This has been my experience also. Mr.Swiger posted something (from the FAQ ?) concerning the number of kernel buffers. i am hoping that i can inquire further as to exactly how i should set these. Where i work we have a bunch of NeXTs all running 3.0 one machiene has 20MB RAM another has 16MB RAM and the others have 32MB RAM what should i set nbuf to for the best results on the above mentioned setups? on the 20MB NeXTStation i find the following in the /usr/adm/messages file: Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: physical memory = 20.00 megabytes. Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: available memory = 18.85 megabytes. Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: using 16 buffers containing 0.12 megabytes of memory Q: i assume that that means that i have 16 buffs and that i should set this higher? how do you know what to set this number to? Should i consult the i ching? pick my birthday? i dont see anything about this in the NeXTStep Network & sys adm book. how did you all (or yous as we say in brooklyn) get to know this? i'd appreciate any help, you can give. i am trying to get these NeXTs running in top form. thanks a bunch, kevin parks the center for computer music conservatory of music brooklyn college of the city university of new york 2900 bedford ave. brooklyn, ny 11210-2889 E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: any after-logout screensaver available for 2.1 Date: 25 Jul 1994 11:53:01 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <31092t$4uc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello I hava a system running under NS2. dont aske me why is there a screensaver app available for in between login? please reply via email later Stephan Fuehauf -- Stephan Fruhauf gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de what is X400? s=gonzo ou=opal p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mpeg2 player ? Date: 25 Jul 1994 12:27:50 GMT Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK Message-ID: <310b46$l7b@castle.york.ac.uk> References: <30omcm$20v@ousrvr.oulu.fi> In article <30omcm$20v@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio) says: > Does anybody know, if there is a Mpeg2 player for black NeXT? black NeXT isn't fast enough to do it. Even a DX66/2 is only fast enough to do it in real time for a single channel. I added code to maplay to do this - if you want it then take a look in pub/pete on shiraz.ohm.york.ac.uk. There is a fat binary there for maplay which works on black and white, together with the source code. best bet to play mp2 files on black hardware is use maplay to decode them into raw files and then use sox to convert the resulting file to a .snd file. Works fine for me. -bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: nbufs mystery Message-ID: <1994Jul25.065352.815@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <30vg5g$pal@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 06:53:52 GMT In article <30vg5g$pal@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) writes: ~> --------------------------------------------------------------------- [...] ~> ~> one machiene has 20MB RAM ~> another has 16MB RAM ~> and the others have 32MB RAM ~> ~> what should i set nbuf to for the best results on the ~> above mentioned setups? ~> ~> on the 20MB NeXTStation i find the following ~> in the /usr/adm/messages file: ~> ~> Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: using 16 buffers ~> containing 0.12 megabytes of memory ~> ~> Q: i assume that that means that i have 16 buffs and that i should ~> set this higher? how do you know what to set this number to? Change your rom boot command to (presumably, use the correct device) bsd nbu=### where ### is the number of buffers. It's been a while since I've done one of these, so you MIGHT need () between. If you are booting off of other than (0,0,0) you may be out of luck for a ROM stored boot with override buffers, as the space for the command storage is QUITE limited. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: g-ko no otaku Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .sig file on black box Date: 25 Jul 1994 13:21:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <310e86$2jd@umd5.umd.edu> Can anyone tell me how to set up a .sig(nature) file on my NeXt? thanks, g-ko
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: .sig file on black box Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:20:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <310hnc$nag@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <310e86$2jd@umd5.umd.edu> In article <310e86$2jd@umd5.umd.edu> g-ko no otaku writes: > Can anyone tell me how to set up a .sig(nature) file on my NeXt? Use Edit to make a file containing what you want as your sig, then save in your home directory as .signature. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OO-Databases on NextStep (Poet, ...) Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:16:30 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <310l0e$2gk@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Hallo, we are looking for an object-oriented database running on NeXTStep (Intel + Motorola), and it seems that the OO-database Poet is the only one that exists (Tell me, if not). So we are interested to hear about your experiences with Poet on NextStep: Does a DBKit Poet-adaptor exist? Because Poet can only store C++-objects, what are your experiences with mixed Obj-C/C++-Code in your application? Is there a query language for poet? What information have you got about Poet supporting the ODL-standard (1995, 1996?) Any pointers are welcome Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
From: yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:30:01 GMT Organization: Informatika, UTFSM. Message-ID: <310i99$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free. : Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware. : Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X : package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a : fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows : Client and Server package. : What's the status on this? Mail or post. : Nick --------------- And I sum up on this one ! A true X client is almost anything that's missing to take over the world, in my humble opinion. Well not exactly the world, but it's pretty nice to go saying in these days that NeXTStep is for intels', sparcs, hp's, and even alpha's, and this really takes over some minds, who are doubting about taking the decision, say don't dive in yet, but are willing to wet their toes... But then, disgracefully, comes a point were these people inevitably talk about their current and existing applications, and what are they going to do with these. And you have to admit there's NO REAL X server/clients, but commercial emulation packages, and if you are sincere enough, you have to point that they really don't do the job.. Well that's all, need X to finish taking over the world. PD: I know i'm not that smart, correct my views if possible. yanko (undergrad EE)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: nbufs mystery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:05:03 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iAxGT_00WBO421mJ0@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul25.065352.815@ToTSySSoft.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Jul-94 Re: nbufs mystery by Bruce Gingery@TotSysSoft > Change your rom boot command to (presumably, use the correct device) > bsd nbu=### > where ### is the number of buffers. It's been a while since I've > done one of these, so you MIGHT need () between. If you are booting off > of other than (0,0,0) you may be out of luck for a ROM stored boot with > override buffers, as the space for the command storage is QUITE limited. You need a '-', as in 'bsd- nbu=###'. And yes, the storage space is limited to 12 bytes. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: nbufs mystery Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:10:47 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AiAxLru00WBOQ21mpR@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30vg5g$pal@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Jul-94 nbufs mystery by -staff music@itsop1.its. > Where i work we have a bunch of NeXTs all running 3.0 > > one machiene has 20MB RAM > another has 16MB RAM > and the others have 32MB RAM > > what should i set nbuf to for the best results on the > above mentioned setups? Try _MB of RAM_ * 6 for a guestimate. I don't believe you need to align these numbers, but I like using a multiple of a power of two, so try: 8 MB RAM = 32 buffers [ since this system would be RAM starved, anyway ] 16 MB RAM = 96 buffers 20 MB RAM = 128 buffers 32 MB RAM = 192 buffers > Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: physical memory = 20.00 megabytes. > Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: available memory = 18.85 megabytes. > Jul 24 23:52:26 booboo mach: using 16 buffers > containing 0.12 megabytes of memory > > Q: i assume that that means that i have 16 buffs and that i should > set this higher? Yes. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: cdodson@vortex (R. Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:40:21 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com> References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > > Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has > to be up 24/7 > > Nick > Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ? We did and it works very well. Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com
From: jdsmith@novell.com (Doug Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Archie for NeXT 3.0 Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:08:59 GMT Organization: Novell, INC Distribution: world Message-ID: <310o2r$ds3@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> Could someone point me to a graphical archie for NeXTStep 3.0? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Smith jdsmith@novell.com Novell, INC (801) 429-7324 MS C-11-1 122 E. 1700 S. Provo, UT 84606
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Message-ID: <CtI7BM.HJn@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:04:32 GMT In article <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) writes: > And does it with a nice > File Browser GUI - drag a file (or directory) out of the RCS archive > to check it out and lock it, drag a file (or directory) into the RCS > archive to check it in. The GUI runs on black NeXT? -- personal opinions "Why do I feel like the only tree in a kennel?" - Murphy Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: GS-Corp. doesn t answer?!? Message-ID: <CtHpKG.JG@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 09:41:04 GMT Hello, I ve tried to reach GS under info@goldleaf.com, also via FAX, and I did not get any answer . . . Any hints? Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OO-Databases on NextStep (Poet, ...) Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:58:25 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <31120h$30d@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <310l0e$2gk@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> In article <310l0e$2gk@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) writes: > Hallo, > > we are looking for an object-oriented database running on NeXTStep (Intel > + Motorola), and it seems > that the OO-database Poet is the only one that exists (Tell me, if not). > > So we are interested to hear about your experiences with Poet on NextStep: > > Does a DBKit Poet-adaptor exist? As far as I know (I spoke to someone at BKS a Year ago), there is no adaptor for Poet, because it is a complete different approach to data storage than RDBMS are. Have you taken a closer look to the new Enterprise Object Framework from NeXT? I think with EOF you do not have to look for a ODBMS, because you can get object persistence with EOF in RDBMS. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: compnents needed for SLIP Message-ID: <1994Jul25.192238.29865@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:22:38 GMT What kinds of SLIP/PPP setups are people using? Specificly , we are wondering: 1) Whose software? 2) What kind of modem? Also, Is anyone using NetBlazers or modem network bridges instead of installing SLIP? <joe> -- FreemanSoft Inc. Home of FSPreferences and FSGreyBoard. Providers of NEXTSTEP mentoring and consulting services. Working with NEXTSTEP since March 1989 and NeXT PDO since July 1993.
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Date: 25 Jul 1994 19:31:43 GMT Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3113uv$3ji@mack.einet.com> References: <CtI7BM.HJn@txnews.amd.com> In article <CtI7BM.HJn@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole) > writes: > > And does it with a nice > > File Browser GUI - drag a file (or directory) out of the RCS archive > > to check it out and lock it, drag a file (or directory) into the RCS > > archive to check it in. > > The GUI runs on black NeXT? Yes, sir, I'm running it on my trusty 040 cube now. - HRC -- ,,, (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~(_)~~OOo~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "Objects in calendar are Albuquerque, NM 87106 | closer than they appear" Voice: (505) 843-7364 | Fax: (505) 243-2653 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) References: <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:05:29 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jul25.080529.2352@proximus.north.de> In article <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> wrote: [...] >Are these project management applications suitable for only software >development, or would they also be useable for say developing a car or >a building? No, what you want is something like TaskMaster.app from Lighthouse. Contact: Lighthouse Design Ltd. 800 366-2279 001 - 415 - 570-7736 Fax: 001 - 415 - 570-7787 2929 Campus Drive Suite 250 San Mateo, CA 94403 USA
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Archie for NeXT 3.0 Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:58:15 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <311917$2u6@shiva.UU.NET> References: <310o2r$ds3@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> You can get an Archie client from cs.orst.edu somewhere like... /pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.acc-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: Export/import in WriteUp 1.1 Message-ID: <1994Jul25.180510.962@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <30issc$lc1@due.uninett.no> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:05:10 GMT In article <30issc$lc1@due.uninett.no> eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) writes: > What file export/import capabilities will WriteUp 1.1 have? WriteUp 1.1 will import ASCII, RTF, RTFD, WriteNow, and WordPerfect files for text handling, and it will import any graphics formats for which you have filter services installed. It will export ASCII, RTF, and RTFD. WordPerfect export is planned, but is not available at this time. Since exporting is facilitated through our Igor filter service, you will not need a new version of WriteUp in order to create WP files once Igor has been enhanced. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <1994Jul25.150426.476@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <1994Jul23.184730.1580@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994Jul24.090715.8021@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:04:26 GMT In article <1994Jul24.090715.8021@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes: >Either: > >call your host prim.demon.co.uk Eek. That doesn't sound right somehow. >or: > >create a /etc/resolv.conf, containing the line: domain demon.co.uk I already had that. It doesn't make any difference. >or: > >create an alias of prim.demon.co.uk for prim with HostManager. This is what I ended up doing and that solved the problem. It's got a really haphazard feel to it though. Seems as though the resolution of the complete name should be more logical. There should be something that says "we're in domain demon.co.uk, and our host name is prim, so we can resolve prim.demon.co.uk". And like I said, /etc/resolv.conf doesn't solve the problem. Besides which, the man page says: On a normally configured system this file should not be necessary. The only name server to be queried will be on the local machine and the domain name is retrieved from the system. Yet everyone seems to need one. Odd. Anyway, many thanks to all the people who replied. Dave Griffiths
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can I have a COLOR background in ASCII EDIT file??? Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:47:16 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3111bk$a91@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, The help file seems to suggest that one need only drag the color well to selected text, but this fails in my ASCII files. Still, it would be nice to have a colored background while I am working (say, the same for all files). Black and white is boring. I have NS 3.2 on Intel hardware. Lones Smith, MIT -- Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914 e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff) lasmith@athena.mit.edu (if all else fails)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199407260034.AA067832848@relay2.geis.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 23:05:00 UTC Cc: eric@cdrom.com Subject: CD ROM Software? <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> writes: > Why are there *two* versions of NEXTSTEP CD-ROMS's? Well, that's pretty easy to answer. FAT binaries take more space. Since we are here for the long-term, we want our products to have the room to grow. Sure there is not enough stuff right now to fill a whole CDROM with just applications, but in the future I'm sure that this won't be the case. Take a quick look at this: Intel Binary Triple-Binary Moon.app 318K 435K NGService 65K 164K UUCon 113K 259K Clock 72K 179K ------- ------- 568K 1037K Difference = 469K Almost 1/2 a megabyte difference with only 4 applications. Another point for single binaries on a CDROM is that it's more convenient for most of our customers. If your running an Intel machine you don't need to recompile or strip the application to save disk space. If your going to copy it over to your hard disk you don't need to think about it. You just do it, without having to worry about hard disk space. If your running a network or have multiple machines that's another story, but most of our customers are private single machine users. The other major point and I think that this one is the most important is that our customers know that a CDROM bought from Walnut Creek CDROM works on thier machine. It's made specifcally for their machine. So they know that they will get their's moneys worth. They also know that they will be able to use all the applications on the CDROM. All 100% of them, nothing less. Plus I really hate it when I see an application that I can't execute because on not running the right machine. >What's going to happen with the HP? We don't know yet. The market for HP will be small for a good little while. One thing is certain, when we do make a product for PA-RISC it's going to be with the customers best interest in mind. It's a lot more trouble and expensive for us at Walnut Creek to make two CDROM's instead of one (Artwork, inventory, etc..) but a lot of our customers feel that they get more for their money. Believe me, I would love to make one CDROM that we can sell for three different platforms, but we think that it's an advantage for most of our customers. One last thing, if CDROM's were 2000MB in size and space was not an issue it would be easier to agree with you but with only 600MB which is not that big you know, we really want to put as much as we possibly can for our customers. Eric "E.T." Tremblay Walnut Creek CDROM
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 26 Jul 1994 01:11:39 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <3125ub$gli@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. 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Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. 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From: lcs@shore.net (Harold Leach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compnents needed for SLIP Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 23:10:18 Organization: North Shore Access Distribution: usa Message-ID: <lcs.3.00172CA5@shore.net> References: <1994Jul25.192238.29865@FreemanSoft.com> Keywords: slip next transys In article <1994Jul25.192238.29865@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: >What kinds of SLIP/PPP setups are people using? Specificly , we are >wondering: >1) Whose software? >2) What kind of modem? I just installed Louis Mamakos's PNI SLIP software (from TransSys) and have successfully used it on a Zoom and Intel modem (both 14.4K V32.bis). Took a bit of late night experimentation, but it works well now. There are a number of good Internet related programs available, like gopher, ftp, WWW. ------------------------------------------- Legal Computer Solutions, Inc. 107 Union Wharf, Boston, MA 02109 e-mail: lcs@shore.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:35:28 GMT Message-ID: <CtJH76.65x@spcuna.spc.edu> R. Craig Dodson (cdodson@vortex) wrote: : In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: : > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : > : > Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has : > to be up 24/7 : > : > Nick : > : Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality : X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ? : We did and it works very well. : Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) : cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com Is CUBX or CO-XIST better? -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: PPP, DOES IT EXIST?!? Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:40:52 GMT Message-ID: <CtJHG5.6An@spcuna.spc.edu> Hey all. me again Well, now I'm looking for a GOOD PPP package The one called "Alby" is just a hacked normal ppp dist that everyone and their gramma has, and uses the chat script to dial out. It's very kludgy and not pretty and doesn't work too well. Is there anything else out their for free? How is Morningstar's next package? cost? What's out there? mail or post Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: gshaw@gpl.com (George Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mailhelper and sig files Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:20:32 GMT Organization: Genesis Project Ltd, Belfast, Northern Ireland Message-ID: <312o1g$4ur@errigle.gpl.net> Hi I have a copy of MailHelper 1.1 and would like to run it on a NeXTstep Intel machine. Has anyone upgraded the app or sucessfully compiled it on an Intel machine? If it has been upgraded where is it? If compiled for Intel can you point me to a copy? Thanks. -- George Shaw (Managing Director) GENESIS PROJECT Ltd International Trade Centre Belfast "INTERPOINT" 20-24 York Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.,sysadmin Subject: Device Driver needed for Compaq Prosignia Message-ID: <310ln9$1t7@kasey.umkc.edu> From: azahid@.cstp.umkc.edu (Abbasi Zahid) Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:28:41 GMT Distribution: world Organization: University of Missouri Kansas City Originator: azahid@selene I have a Compaq Prosignia with a fast scsi II controller built into the mother board. The NS does not load because it is missing the device driver. Any help will be much appreciated! Zahid Abbasi azahid@cstp.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Why can't I ping my host when SLIP isn't active? Message-ID: <1994Jul26.070112.2375@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jul25.150426.476@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 07:01:12 GMT In article <1994Jul25.150426.476@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > In article <1994Jul24.090715.8021@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes: > >create an alias of prim.demon.co.uk for prim with HostManager. > > This is what I ended up doing and that solved the problem. > > It's got a really haphazard feel to it though. Seems as though the resolution > of the complete name should be more logical. There should be something that > says "we're in domain demon.co.uk, and our host name is prim, so we can > resolve prim.demon.co.uk". And like I said, /etc/resolv.conf doesn't solve > the problem. Besides which, the man page says: > > On a normally configured system this file should not be > necessary. The only name server to be queried will be on > the local machine and the domain name is retrieved from the > system. > > Yet everyone seems to need one. Odd. The effect of defining a domain is that any other machines in your local network would all become xxx.demon.co.uk; as this name space is not within your control, this would be incorrect. The real situation is that you don't own a domain, and that your machine that happens to be called prim is also known as prim.demon.co.uk (so adding the host alias is correct). You can also set a domain name by the use of domainname, but this is inextricably bound up with the use of Yellow Pages, which you really don't want to do; and is also the reason for the cryptic comment in resolver (5). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: PNI-1.9-beta (more) Message-ID: <1994Jul14.001534.7881@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 00:15:34 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA This morning I posted looking for help to get PNI SLIP running. In that post I said runniong pnid on a modem that was in use caused it to drop the line. I have discovered that was a fluke. I am now logged on to the office machine and I ran pnid at home. It correctly noted the uucp lock and shut down with no problems. I can only assume the connection was turning off just when I ran pnid last night. Sorry about that. The other three problems still exist. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP] tion is set wrong, but it doesn't say how to set it. Can anybody help? -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320 venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Looking for DAT backup software Message-ID: <1994Jul19.113716.19435@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:37:16 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I have a WangDAT I use for system backups. Unfortunately, I lack any clever software to fully utilize the tape and using the system utilities to manually mark the tape and append to it is frought with peril. Therefore, I have only been using the beginning of the tape and writing a single backup to it, a terrible waste. Is there some software out there, I prefer cheap or free since this is a home machine, that can help me to manage DAT tapes? BTW, there is a program called DATer.tar.Z on sonata which I have requested, but I don't know if it actually has anything to do with DAT. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: OO-Databases on NextStep (Poet, ...) Message-ID: <1994Jul26.145409.169@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <310l0e$2gk@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:54:09 GMT In article <310l0e$2gk@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) writes: >Hallo, > >we are looking for an object-oriented database running on NeXTStep (Intel >+ Motorola), and it seems >that the OO-database Poet is the only one that exists (Tell me, if not). > O2 Technologies is finishing a port to NEXTSTEP. The people at O2 are knowledgable, helpful, flexible and smart. We've enjoyed dealing with them immensely. We have O2 running under SunOS. The port was reported in UNIGRAM a while back. I'd ask O2. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dual Boot NeXTSTEP/HP-UX Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:38:08 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <313on0$f6e@hearst.cac.psu.edu> And the quest to justify the Gecko continues.... Given that my two main pieces of software -- Mathematica & FrameMaker -- won't be available for the Gecko for quite some time, I was wondering whether I could get them for HP-UX and otherwise use the Gecko as a NeXTSTEP machine? What would the disk space requirements be for such a concept -- assuming, of course, that it is possible? Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A FREE Gif Viewer Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:47:54 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <313p9a$1kg@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone know where you can find a free gif viewer. It would be nice if it would allow you to save the gif as tiff files. Thanks Mark
From: kcarroll@u.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GS-Corp. doesn t answer?!? Date: 26 Jul 1994 20:15:27 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <313qsv$h52@news.u.washington.edu> References: <CtHpKG.JG@manki.toppoint.de> In article <CtHpKG.JG@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: > Hello, I ve tried to reach GS under info@goldleaf.com, also via FAX, > and I did not get any answer . . . Any hints? > > Manfred try bob@goldleaf.com (Bob Brodie, Lorin's replacement for tech support)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Disk Optimizing Software? Message-ID: <CtKC0L.pt@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 19:41:08 GMT In article <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> leslie@mercury.interpath.net (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology) writes: > Does anyone have reccs for disk optimizing software > for NeXTSTEP systems on black cubes? What exactly did you have in mind? Do not worry about file fragmentation - bsd filesystem should take care of that for you already. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Subject: Re: CD ROM software? Message-ID: <1994Jul26.190610.3090@westwerk.cube.de> Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) Organization: Westwerk References: <CtH9wt.IK7@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 19:06:10 GMT In article <CtH9wt.IK7@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > The best one I've got (and I have manymanymany at the office) is the new > "Fatted Calf" CD that was brought back for me from the show. It has the > best collection of source code (all freshly compiled tri-fat), and has > many utilities I haven't seen for a long time. Quite a few commercial > demo programs, too. > > : Also, can a CD designed for another computer (e.g. mac or > : intel) be read by a NeXT? > > DOS and Mac CD's can be read on a NeXT. Discs for other UNIXes cannot > (e.g. Sun) usually be read, because they "extend" standard formats to the > point where they are non-standard. > I also bought the Fatted-Cald-CD and I can absolutely confirm the above statement. I paid $30 and got a huge pile of software, utilities, fonts, sounds, etc. Documentation and a browser-application on the CD are very good! -- Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) University of Stuttgart 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH Forststrasse 163/1 70193 Stuttgart GERMANY Phone 0711 / 638360 Fax/Data 0711 / 634696 -- ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome) ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ University of Stuttgart · 2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D Viewing Software Date: 26 Jul 1994 21:22:41 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <313ur1$3u0@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, Is there any software out there that will allow me to view objects in 3D given their coordinates, shape, size, etc. (something similar to what is implemented in Molecule.app in /NextDeveloper/Demos). I don't need any shading, light sources, etc... that the 3D kit provides. Thanks in advance. --- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: compnents needed for SLIP Date: 26 Jul 1994 20:20:22 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: usa Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul26212023@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <1994Jul25.192238.29865@FreemanSoft.com> To: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) In-reply-to: joe@FreemanSoft.com's message of Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:22:38 GMT <joe@FreemanSoft.com> writes: >What kinds of SLIP/PPP setups are people using? Specificly , we are >wondering: >1) Whose software? there are a number of varieties.. dialupip (older translip) m68k only. PNI (newer translip) intel and m68k MorningStar PPP... intel and m68k.. If your job depends on it then go with MST :-) >2) What kind of modem? Zyxel 1496E's... >Also, >Is anyone using NetBlazers or modem network bridges instead of installing >SLIP? ><joe> >-- >FreemanSoft Inc. >Home of FSPreferences and FSGreyBoard. >Providers of NEXTSTEP mentoring and consulting services. >Working with NEXTSTEP since March 1989 and NeXT PDO since July 1993. -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: bob@newton.uucp ("Robert L. Masterson") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Multi-user Project Development (SCCS) Date: 27 Jul 1994 03:30:58 GMT Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc. Sender: Robert_Masterson@aquarius.northeast.sss.com (Robert L. Masterson) Distribution: world Message-ID: <314kdi$kaa@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <30p79g$cp8@mack.einet.com> <30saqv$nhp@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> <1994Jul25.080529.2352@proximus.north.de> Summary: DRCS does the job well and a demo is available on the archives Keywords: CASE, DRCS, RCS, SCCS, revision, development, version, CodeReviewer I note there has been a discussion of software to manage revisions of software on development projects and multi-user development. Someone recently mentioned DRCS, the graphical, directory capable revision management system from Software Services and Solutions, Inc., that sports a full, WorkspaceManager-lookalike GUI, and I wanted to follow that up with some more information. Also, there was an Expo Special that is still going on until July 31st on a bundle of a single license of both DRCS and CodeReviewer, the software analysis and quality maintenance tool, for $370 (50% off their usual price), directly from SS&S. You can FTP from cs.orst.edu (in /pub/next/demos/programming) and other archives a demo version of DRCS 1.8.8 (and of CodeReviewer 2.7.5) for NEXTSTEP NeXT and Intel that you can enable for a month, or you can send mail to CASE_Tools@sss.com to request either demo by email. The only areas in which the DRCS demo differs from the production version are that the production version includes the command line interface, is triple fat for HP/PA-RISC as well, and is provided under a floating license server (the demo is node locked). DRCS fills the gap in the NEXTSTEP development environment by providing graphical access to project version management functions that are tightly integrated with ProjectBuilder, Interface Builder, and the standard development environment. With DRCS, developers need never break the flow of their graphical development cycle by going to a shell window to check in or check out components of a project. DRCS handles all of the resources used in NEXTSTEP development, including nib files, binary files, and directories. DRCS allows NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, and Unix users, whether they're developers or not, to enjoy full version management and revision control of everything from wordprocessor documents to directories of NEXTSTEP projects to entire filesystems. Anyone who can use NEXTSTEP or OpenStep can learn how to use the DRCS Graphical User Interface in a matter of minutes. DRCS provides project lifetime tracking and revision control for entire directories as well as files. Users can freely access the contents of a directory revision archive or treat the entire archive as a single unit. DRCS directory archives maintain a history of their previous contents, even if component files have been renamed or deleted. Users can call DRCS shell commands directly from a terminal window or access the full power of the system through the DRCS Graphical User Interface. The DRCS Graphical User Interface allows the user to open an arbitrary number of Workspace Manager-like File Viewers. Revision control is provided transparently through standard mouse operations. For example, the user can select a group of files in the Workspace Manager File Viewer and drag them into a project revision control directory in a DRCS File Viewer - the revision histories are automatically updated. Inspector Panels allow the user to select revision control options and make log entries, and a Preferences panel provides a full range of default settings. DRCS provides full compatibility with existing RCS revision archives ("RCS" directories). The DRCS shell commands provide the functionality of the corresponding RCS commands, while extending those commands to operate on directories as well as files. In addition, DRCS offers advanced features like automated file renaming and whole-project revision histories. Platforms: The DRCS command line interface is available now for most Unix platforms, including NEXTSTEP on HP/PA-RISC, Pentium, 486, and NeXT, Sun/Solaris, Hewlett Packard/HP-UX, Digital/Ultrix and OSF/1, SGI/Irix, IBM/AIX, SCO UNIX, and Unixware. The DRCS Graphical User Interface is available now under NEXTSTEP for HP/PA-RISC, Pentium, 486, and NeXT hardware, and it will be available under Motif and generic X windows for Sun, HP, DEC, IBM, SGI, and other platforms soon. DRCS is OpenStep compatible, and will be available under OpenStep on Sun, DEC, and other platforms when they are released. Price: $245.00 for a single user floating license. Multi-user and site licenses are available at discounts. See the Multi-user license discount schedule below or contact SS&S for details. Multi-user license discount schedule: users discount off single user license price 2 to 5 users 10.0% off 6 to 10 users 16.0% off 11 to 15 users 21.0% off 16 to 20 users 25.0% off 21 to 30 users 28.5% off 31 to 40 users 29.5% off 41 users and up 30.0% off Please feel free to contact me directly for more information on DRCS, CodeReviewer, or any other of our services and products; or you can send email to CASE_Tools@sss.com. Sincerely, Robert L. Masterson, Vice President Software Services and Solutions, Inc. 94 Murray Street Meriden, Connecticut 06450 rlm@sss.com phone: (203) 630-2000 fax: (203) 630-2020
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A FREE Gif Viewer Date: 27 Jul 1994 05:21:48 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <314qtc$mg@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <313p9a$1kg@news.tamu.edu> In article <313p9a$1kg@news.tamu.edu> mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet) writes: >Does anyone know where you can find a free gif viewer. It would be nice if >it would allow you to save the gif as tiff files. Look on the various NEXTSTEP archive sites for files with "GIF" in their names. Also: ImageViewer anonymous FTP from sonata.cc.purdue.edu pub/next/3.0/bin/ImageViewer0.9i.tar.Z OmniImage anonymous FTP from ftp.omnigroup.com pub/software/OmniImage-3.0.1.pkg.tar pub/software/OmniImageFilter-3.0.pkg.tar => both handle a variety of image formats. I don't know if anyone has put together a "scorecard" comparing the various GIF consumers and validating their handling of + invalid files + truncated files + images smaller than logical screen size + background color + interlaced images + multiple images + local color tables + missing color tables + GIF89a extensions + unrecognized extensions + nonsquare aspect ratio + transparency + gamma correction (if any) Volunteers? :-) -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Looking for DAT backup software Message-ID: <CtLC28.A7G@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <1994Jul19.113716.19435@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 08:39:43 GMT In article <1994Jul19.113716.19435@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > I have a WangDAT I use for system backups. Unfortunately, I lack any > clever software to fully utilize the tape and using the system utilities > to manually mark the tape and append to it is frought with peril. > Therefore, I have only been using the beginning of the tape and writing > a single backup to it, a terrible waste. Is there some software out > there, I prefer cheap or free since this is a home machine, that can > help me to manage DAT tapes? > Hi, If you value quick and simple access to your archived data use SafetyNet from Systemix Software. Its not free but great value. Email: brian@systemix.com for further details and current pricing. -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Insignia Date: 27 Jul 1994 11:30:34 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <315ggq$sq5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Does anybody know an email-adress of the INSIGNIA company (producer of SoftPC)? --Bernhard Mayr ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mag.rer.nat. D.I. Bernhard J. MAYR Institut f. Nachrichtentechnik u. Hochfrequenztechnik, TU-WIEN mail: bmayr@email.tuwien.ac.at; tel: 58801/3513 ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: ccx009@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing the IP address of a NeXT 3.0 Server Followup-To: poster Date: 27 Jul 1994 12:31:23 +0100 Organization: Coventry University Message-ID: <315gib$h9v@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Hi, simple question for you NeXTies! How can I alter the IP address of my NeXT Netinfo Server? It's a 68040 Cube running 3.0. It allocates IP addresses and names to 5 other NeXT Slabs (Turbo's) also running 3.0. What are the foolproof steps to 1. Alter the server IP address and get it up and running with this new address. When I altered the hostconfig in single user mode the server would no longer boot. Does the netinfo stuff base itself on the IP address of the machine? 2. Once the server is up and running with a new IP address is there anything I need to do to my netinfo clients to make them get new IP addresses too? Sorry if these are newbie questions but we don't have any printed major printed docs on our machines and the on-line stuff is out of date. Any help appreciated. -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK INET : A.Bentley@hermes.coventry.ac.uk
From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Extreme OmniWeb unpleasantness Date: 27 Jul 1994 17:08:12 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <31649s$81i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I have been having problems with OmniWeb that defy all attempts at correction. This concerns in-line images and YES! I _have_ followed the advice of earlier posts regarding its correct installation (OmniImageFiler.services in ~/Library/Services, OmniImage -or- ImageViewer in -/Apps but not both, etc.etc., followed by logging out and in again, as well as rebooting just to be sure). I have also tried all reasonable variants as suggested, all alternative locations. Nothing works -- no in-line images. What is even stranger is that a colleague of mine installed it totally differently and it worked perfectly well on her machine: OmniImage in the home directory (not ~/Apps), ImageViewer in ~/Apps, and _NO_ OmniImageFiler.services anywhere. It works on her machine even though it is seemingly at odds with all the advice given on this newsgroup. So I tried the identical set up on my machine, using copies of her files in case something had happened to mine, and of course it did _NOT_ work... I have done the obvious things like checking protections, but the mystery remains -- no in-line html images. There are _NO_ console messages at all, no attention panels indicating an error, nothing.... Any ideas?
From: bjones@cais2.cais.com (Peripheral Solutions) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: Info on Human Resources software Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:00:05 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com Message-ID: <3167b5$sm8@sun.cais.com> I was out at NEXTSTEP Expo and remember seeing a company that was marketing a Human Resources-type of software package. If anyone knows of the name of the package and/or the company, could they please send me the information (i.e name, phone ...). Any other information or experience with this package would also be greatly appreciated. -Bob -- --------------------------------------------- Bob Jones bjones@cais.com Systemworks, Inc. 703-450-7429 ---------------------------------------------
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFF to GIF conversion with good color reduction Date: 27 Jul 1994 19:40:33 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <316d7h$3f@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I am trying to find a preferably shareware/freeware application that will reduce a 24bit color image to 256 colors and create an acceptable image - Graphicsworkshop does not. If you suggest pnmdepth/pbm tools, please include advice on how to use this tool effectively. I have been equally disappointed with it... Thanks. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: helge@haddock.cd.chalmers.se (Markus H|rnkvist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [intel] Module player sought Date: 27 Jul 1994 20:32:15 GMT Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <HELGE.94Jul27223215@haddock.cd.chalmers.se> Is there an Amiga (Sound)tracker module player for Intel hardware? /Markus
From: bjones@cais.cais.com (Peripheral Solutions) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: Info on Human Resources software Date: 27 Jul 1994 20:24:47 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Message-ID: <316fqf$1ae@sun.cais.com> When I was at NEXTSTEP Expo this year, I believe there was a company selling a Human Resources-type software program. If anyone knows the name of the package and/or company and a way to contact, could they please send me the information. Also, if you know of other similar packages or have used this one, please send me your opinions of them. TIA -Bob -- --------------------------------------------- Bob Jones bjones@cais.com Systemworks, Inc. 703-450-7429 ---------------------------------------------
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: ND frame grabbing software Date: 27 Jul 1994 20:08:04 GMT Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.94Jul27160804@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> I have a classic cube, and because it was once the only way to get color, I have an ND board in it, which I have never used as anything but a color display. But I find I have a more serious use for it: I have a good deal of videotape which I'd like to be able to digitize so as to make some measurements on the individual frame images. I'm sure there's some software out there - homemade, (not too expensive) commercial, or for all I know already included with the system (wouldn't that be nice?) - that will do what I want, but I don't know where to look for it. Macintoshes have frame grabber boards that convert running video to a sequence of TIFF files, and I'll be surprised if the ND isn't up to it. I don't insist on hardware jpeg compression :-) The video is recorded at 64 frames/second, but presumably can be played back at a slower speed if need be. There's lots of it, but it can be done in chunks of whatever size is needed. If it's relevant, I have 64 MB of memory on the cube board (and 32 on the ND), and plenty of disk space, so those things outghtn't to be limitations. Can someone give me a hint or two? Thanks in advance, --Steve Anderson
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No more FORTRAN?? Message-ID: <1994Jul27.094916.18118@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 27 Jul 94 09:49:16 EDT Organization: Univ of Miami IR I have been told by Absoft that they will no longer be developing new versions of their FORTRAN compiler for black OR white NeXTstep. They told me that they will continue to sell the current versions. I realize that many of you are not great FORTRAN fans but some of us have A LOT of old code in FORTRAN. Does the action by Absoft leave us without a currently supported FORTRAN compiler for NeXTSTEP? I wonder if Absoft's dropping of NeXTSTEP support is an omen - After all, NeXTWorld Magazine stopped production at about the same time. NeXTstep is so great, I hate to see applications of any utility fade away - Are we all going to be left with only PowerMacs and Bill Gates? Tom Herbert Univ. of Miami
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Contacting HSD Message-ID: <CtM8MC.A9G@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Organization: Investor's Advantage Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 20:23:00 GMT Hi all, I need the phone number for HSD so I can call them about upgrades for OCR servent and PowerScan. I can't seem to find it anywhere in my office and the computer I have the software on is being shipped somewhere. If someone could email me the number I'd appreciate it. Thanks PS. I thought I heard that they merged my metrosoft awhile back but I might be wrong. -- jerald dawson * Systems Manager/Senior Programmer * MRK Enterprizes NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com | phone - (708) 487-3221 | Chicago? Been there. Done that.
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: ND frame grabbing software Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:30:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <316u74$66@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <ANDERSON.94Jul27160804@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> Keywords: NeXTdimension In article <ANDERSON.94Jul27160804@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes: > > I have a classic cube, and because it was once the only way to get > color, I have an ND board in it, which I have never used as anything > but a color display. But I find I have a more serious use for it: I > have a good deal of videotape which I'd like to be able to digitize so > as to make some measurements on the individual frame images. I'm sure > there's some software out there - homemade, (not too expensive) > commercial, or for all I know already included with the system > (wouldn't that be nice?) - that will do what I want, but I don't know > where to look for it. Macintoshes have frame grabber boards that > convert running video to a sequence of TIFF files, and I'll be > surprised if the ND isn't up to it. I don't insist on hardware jpeg > compression :-) OK, here's the ND software I use regularly: A) FREE 1 - Look in the directory /NextDeveloper/Demos, and put the apps ScreenScape and NeXTtv someplace handy. NeXTtv is just what it says, a software boob tube :-) Use an external source such as a VCR, for a tuner. ScreenScape is a nifty app that outputs a 640x480 chunk of the monitor screen through the video ports in real time. Controls allow you to clamp it down over something or track the cursor. 2 - If you have the Developer tools installed, look in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit for the VideoApp source code. Add ProjectBuilder and stir. This app is a very good single frame grabber, and will output TIFFs through the video ports. More managable for these purposes than NeXTtv, which will also do 'em, albeit unreliably. 3 - Look in cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu for Peter Eisch's Capture.app. This is the app that does what you're looking for. You select an area of the video input < 640x480, select the number of frames you want, start the playback, and click Grab. It snarfs as fast as it can (6-7 fps max), saves the sequential TIFFs to disk, and launches Movie.app for playback. (Get Movie or Motion, too - esssential for playing .anim's.) A fun app. B) COMMERCIAL 1 - TIFFany2 can open a .anim, let you process, edit and play back the component TIFFs, and has facilities for outputting directly through the video ports. I've not tried capturing with it yet. With some work you can approximate Adobe Premiere with it. 2 - MediaStation supports ND input and output, but it's no longer supported and I haven't gotten it to work under 3.2. -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Synthetic gin is better than gynthetic sin." -- Austin Tappan Wright
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:20:07 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <316tjo$8uu@news.bu.edu> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : : I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have : : more than one OS on a boot disk, no? : : If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? : : Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. : : (not as nice as NeXT ;-) : Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has : to be up 24/7 Gee, then you should have no problem affording the very reasonable cost of one of the commercial X packages.
From: tdave@raivac.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PNI Problems Date: 28 Jul 1994 02:34:05 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <3175et$h43@relay.tor.hookup.net> I am running PNI from TranSys on a 486 DX2. Regardless of the app I am running (OmniWeb, Newsgrazer, GatorFTP+) the transfer of data is a.) slow and b.) intermittently hangs the machine. Has anyone got a similar configuration working properly? Sleepless in Stouffville, Dave Thompson (No disclaimer required!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: voltmer@netcom.com (Andrew Voltmer) Subject: Which SLIP/PPP server? Message-ID: <voltmerCtMMoo.A8y@netcom.com> Summary: Which SLIP/PPP server? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:26:47 GMT What is the general recommendation for freeware/shareware software to set up my NS Intel machine to be a SLIP or PPP server? It seems that everything I can find is for client stuff. I could be wrong. Thanks in advance. -Andrew Voltmer -- voltmer@netcom.com
From: ekouba@rmii.com (Eric Kouba) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A FREE Gif Viewer Date: 28 Jul 1994 01:30:12 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc1:wq Message-ID: <3171n4$20k@potogold.rmii.com> References: <313p9a$1kg@news.tamu.edu> : Does anyone know where you can find a free gif viewer. It would be nice if : it would allow you to save the gif as tiff files. ************** ImageViewer works very well for me. Followup question for somebody who knows more than I do: Is there an app out there (similar to ImageViewer) that also works with .jpg files? The version I've got doesn't do this. -- | Eric The Kouba ekouba.rmii.com | |---------------------------------------------------------------| | HAWK LION, we see your active directive at system time 07130, | | mod enabled at 134, negative s-tones, and range is cycling... |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: HP version of NG Message-ID: <1994Jul27.095656.1890@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:56:56 GMT Hi, I know that NG is a non supported software, but the people at NeXT could recompile it and put in NeXTAnswer or in any ftp site. Cheers --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A FREE Gif Viewer Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:47:03 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <317ra7$sku@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <313p9a$1kg@news.tamu.edu> <3171n4$20k@potogold.rmii.com> In article <3171n4$20k@potogold.rmii.com> ekouba@rmii.com (Eric Kouba) writes: >Followup question for somebody who knows more than I do: Is there an >app out there (similar to ImageViewer) that also works with .jpg files? >The version I've got doesn't do this. The current version of ImageViewer does. -=EPS=-
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting Emacs 4.0 as my default editor Date: 28 Jul 94 08:20:29 Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Jul28082029@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> I've read both the NEXTSTEP and Emacs online docs and can't find the answer to this. What dwrite must I issue to tell the Workspace Manager to use Emacs as the default editor (rather than Edit). I expected to find the answer to this in the Emacs-For-NS info file, but didn't. Thanks, Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: g-ko no otaku Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: test Date: 28 Jul 1994 13:35:25 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <318c6t$ree@umd5.umd.edu> test -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337 \f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 If someone asks my abode, I reply:\
From: ccx009@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems changing IP addresses with NS 3.0 Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:19:12 +0100 Organization: Coventry University Message-ID: <318i9g$jgt@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Hi, I am currently attempting to change the IP addresses of our NeXT's, a netinfo server and 5 netinfo clients. Someone provided me with the information below which they had in turn got from NeXT Inc. I carried out the instructions outlined below but now, when I boot any of the netinfo clients (the server is ok) They won't boot. They autoconfigure ok, and get a new ip address and hostname but then I get the message, "netinfo lookupd netinfo sleeping: RPC: unable to receive: errno= connection reset by peer" why? what am i doing wrong and how can I fix it? thanks for any help. ===================Below is the procedure outlined by NeXT Inc.============================ To change the addresses of your NeXTs, you need to make changes in 2 places. In their /etc/hostconfig files, where their addresses may or may not be recorded (depending on how they were set up initially), and in NetInfo, where they mak be recorded in several places. I'll tell you what to do if you have a two-level NetInfo hierarchy that is fairly standard. If you've set up a 3 (or more) level NetiInfo hierarchy, or have done any other non-standard local configuration, you might need to do more than just this. Let me know if you have difficulties. 1: Login as root on the machine that you set up with the master copy of your top-level NetInfo domain. Use NetInfoManager to open the root domain ("/"). You'll find the address for each machine under the /machines directory. Open them all and change the addresses. DO NOT REBOOT AFTER DOING THIS! 2: Look in the "/" directory of the "/" domain. If there's a "trusted_networks" property, change it to your new network number. DO NOT REBOOT! 3: Edit the /etc/hostconfig file and change the INETADDR variable. 4: Log in on all other computers and check their /etc/hostconfig files. Change any INETADDR values that are not "-AUTOMATIC-". You can leave the "-AUTOMATIC-" values as they are. 4: Shut down all the NeXTs and connect your networks. 5: Boot the machine with the top-level master. 6: Boot the rest of your NeXTs. ========================================================================================== -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK INET : A.Bentley@hermes.coventry.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cmc@world.std.com (John Carty) Subject: NeXT Terminal vt100 emulation & Oracle Forms Message-ID: <Ctnr9D.JBM@world.std.com> Summary: How do I _really_ emulate a vt100 in Terminal Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:03:11 GMT I am trying to develop an Oracle SQL*Forms30 application which will run on the Oracle server platform, and be accessed from a telnet running in a NeXT Terminal window. Although the NeXT docs state that Terminal provides complete vt100 emulation, they neglect to mention that while the vt100 has many function keys plus the famous PF1-4 keys, NeXT has somewhat fewer of these keys (none). This causes some problems with mapping keys for the Forms application to use. Does anyone have experience with this? Can you suggest a keymap to use? Thanks in advance, Bob Blizard
From: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Suessner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIFF conversion? Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:11:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <318laq$r2n@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi, I have created some images using the Grab application. I tried to import it into a Microsoft Word document, but MS has problems to understand NeXT specific file filters. How can I convert the TIFF-image to a standard image file format, which DOS World applications are able to open? Thanks in advance -- ====================================================== Suessner Michael Arbeitsgruppe Neuronale Elektronik Institut fuer Allgemeine Elektrotechnik und Elektronik Vienna Technical University Tel.: Austria-(0)222-58801-3754 E-MAIL: michael@rs2.iaee.tuwien.ac.at suessner@ps1.iaee.tuwien.ac.at NeXTmail: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) Subject: [BUG] in PDO g++ 2.5.8 Message-ID: <CtnML1.Cz9@lehman.com> Sender: news@lehman.com (News) Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 14:22:12 GMT Hi, Here is what I think is a bug, I am trying to work around it but wihtout success until now, if someone has a clue for getting around, it would be welcome. Maybe a related question would be whether using the regular g++ will be compatible with the PDO g++ compiler (my intuition says it should but who knows ...)? I am trying to use the PDO's with Objective C wrapper around C++ code, so the first step is to compile my C++ code with g++ from the PDO's! When I try to compile a file here is what happens, first with the PDO g++ 2.5.8 and then what happens with the regular g++ 2.6.0. g++ -xc++ -v -c try.cpp gcc -xc++ -v -c try.cpp gcc version 2.5.8 cpp -lang-c++ -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUG__=2 -D__cplusplus -D__GNUC_MINOR__=5 -Dsparc -Dsun -Dunix -DNeXT_PDO -D__sparc__ -D__sun__ -D__unix__ -D__GCC_NEW_VARARGS__ -D__NeXT_PDO__ -D__BIG_ENDIAN__ -D__ARCHITECTURE__=\"sparc\" -D__sparc -D__sun -D__unix -D__NeXT_PDO -Asystem\(unix\) -Asystem\(bsd\) -Acpu\(sparc\) -Amachine\(sparc\) try.cpp /home/jsafar/tmp/cca00465.i unknown flag -lang-c++ unknown flag -v unknown flag -Asystem(unix) unknown flag -Asystem(bsd) unknown flag -Acpu(sparc) unknown flag -Amachine(sparc) "try.cpp", line 2: Can't find include file iostream.h rael[jsafar]99: which gcc /home/jsafar/NextDeveloper/bin/gcc rael[jsafar]100: /home/technoids/bin/!g+ /home/technoids/bin/g++ -xc++ -v -c try.cpp /home/technoids/bin/gcc -xc++ -v -c try.cpp Reading specs from /home/technoids/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/2.6.0/specs gcc version 2.6.0 /home/technoids/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/2.6.0/cpp -lang-c++ -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUG__=2 -D__cplusplus -D__GNUC_MINOR__=6 -Dsparc -Dsun -Dunix -D__GCC_NEW_VARARGS__ -D__sparc__ -D__sun__ -D__unix__ -D__GCC_NEW_VARARGS__ -D__sparc -D__sun -D__unix -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(bsd) -Acpu(sparc) -Amachine(sparc) try.cpp /home/jsafar/tmp/cca00489.ii GNU CPP version 2.6.0 (sparc) #include "..." search starts here: #include <...> search starts here: /home/technoids/lib/g++-include /home/technoids/include /home/technoids/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/include /home/technoids/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/2.6.0/include /usr/include End of search list. /home/technoids/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/2.6.0/cc1plus /home/jsafar/tmp/cca00489.ii -quiet -dumpbase try.cc -version -o /home/jsafar/tmp/cca00489.s GNU C++ version 2.6.0 (sparc) compiled by GNU C version 2.6.0. ^Crael[jsafar]101: cat > ~/foo1 g++ -xc++ -v -c try.cpp gcc -xc++ -v -c try.cpp gcc version 2.5.8 cpp -lang-c++ -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUG__=2 -D__cplusplus -D__GNUC_MINOR__=5 -Dsparc -Dsun -Dunix -DNeXT_PDO -D__sparc__ -D__sun__ -D__unix__ -D__GCC_NEW_VARARGS__ -D__NeXT_PDO__ -D__BIG_ENDIAN__ -D__ARCHITECTURE__=\"sparc\" -D__sparc -D__sun -D__un^Crael[jsafar]102: Thanx in advance for any help. Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------- John Safar jsafar@lehman.com I've seen things that you people ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP? Message-ID: <1994Jul28.105433.15550@earlham.edu> From: Tim_McLarnan@math.earlham.edu (Tim McLarnan) Date: 28 Jul 94 10:54:33 EST Sender: timtnet@polycarp.math.earlham.edu Organization: Earlham College Many apologies if this is a standard query, but I'd like to run PPP on a NeXT box (black hardware, NS 3.1). Both the 0.2 NeXT PPP and the current BSD release on merit.edu produce masses of errors when I blindly type "make". Has anyone got PPP running on a NeXT who could send me or direct me to source/executables/advice? I don't mind doing a little hacking, but I really don't understand all this stuff well enough to march in and do the port myself. As always, _many_ thanks. -- Timothy J. McLarnan, Tim_McLarnan@math.earlham.edu Dept. of Mathematics, Earlham College, Richmond, IN 47374 USA
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Setting Emacs 4.0 as my default editor Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:42:07 GMT Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Jul28184207@strings4.ph.qmw.ac.uk> References: <CRATH.94Jul28082029@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> In-reply-to: crath@bnr.ca's message of 28 Jul 94 08:20:29 In article <CRATH.94Jul28082029@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) writes: I've read both the NEXTSTEP and Emacs online docs and can't find the answer to this. What dwrite must I issue to tell the Workspace Manager to use Emacs as the default editor (rather than Edit). dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs.app Thanks, Christopher You're welcome, Jose -- +----------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.71.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.81.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | TeX: jmf@strings4.ph.qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | +----------------------------------+--------------------------------+
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser.app Date: 28 Jul 1994 18:23:31 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <318t33$pil@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CtnwHA.HDC@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CtnwHA.HDC@cunews.carleton.ca>, Jason Bright <jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca> wrote: >Could someone please point me to the site where RBrowser app is hiding? >(or mail me a copy) I lost my copy and Archie doesn't have it listed. > Snoop around on sutro.sfsu.edu - it's there somewhere. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MATLAB for the NeXT Date: 28 Jul 1994 18:10:19 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <318sab$ged@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Hi folks, I was yammering at my sales rep about the port of MATLAB to NeXTSTEP which had made the "To Do" list. Her response was... Just spoke with one of our Technical guys, he said they have put that project on hold indefinitely due to lack of demand. He said they have received only a few requests. I am not saying they will not eventually port to the Next but I cannot give you a time frame. I'm sorry about that! which is a frustrating answer since the easiest way to justify a Gecko or a SPARC for a techno-weenie is based upon number-crunching. Maybe I am the only NeXTSTEP user in the world who wants to run MATLAB under NS; however, if any of you are interested, send a note to info@mathworks.com expressing your interest in such a port. You might also send a copy to swilk@mathworks.com to make sure don't drop into the bit bucket that the MathWorks seems to use for NeXT-related requests. In many respects, MATLAB is an enabling technology -- if it doesn't run you can't justify the purchase no matter how hot the silicon or good the price points. The gadzillions of SPARCstations HP workstations out there will continue to NOT run NEXTSTEP if the software packages aren't there. Grumble, mutter,... Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: RBrowser.app Message-ID: <CtnwHA.HDC@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 17:55:57 GMT Could someone please point me to the site where RBrowser app is hiding? (or mail me a copy) I lost my copy and Archie doesn't have it listed. thanx jay -- Jay Bright jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (NeXTMail happy!) "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: hern@barclay (Steve Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs for HP Date: 28 Jul 1994 19:49:35 GMT Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies Message-ID: <31924f$kru@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> How/where can I get a version of Emacs for the HP port of NEXTSTEP? Thanks. -- Steve Herndon E-mail: hern@advtech.uswest.com US WEST Advanced Technologies, Phone: (303) 541-6354 4001 Discovery Drive, Suite 270 Boulder, CO. 80303
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TEX to (Frame)? Date: 28 Jul 1994 14:15:57 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <318eit$1tc@balu.ixpoint.de> Any way to convert a TeX document to a page layout program (Frame) ? What do you think of the idea to make a TeX->PS->Tailor2.0 chain and edit it there (changing fonts ...) ? Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: sands8@news.delphi.com (SANDS8@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MATLAB for the NeXT Date: 28 Jul 1994 21:28:51 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <3197uj$t93@news.delphi.com> References: <318sab$ged@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes: >I was yammering at my sales rep about the port of MATLAB to NeXTSTEP which had >made the "To Do" list. Her response was... > > Just spoke with one of our Technical guys, he said they have put that > project on hold indefinitely due to lack of demand. He said they have > received only a few requests. I am not saying they will not eventually > port to the Next but I cannot give you a time frame. I'm sorry about that! This has been the party line from MathWorks since before I bought my NeXTStation 3 years ago. I seriously doubt they will ever port MATLAB to NeXT, especially the black hardware; nobody is going to pay $8000 (the current price for MATLAB for a Unix workstation) for a simulation program on a defunct platform. There is hope, however, two public domain (read $0) sofware packages: RLaB and Octave. RLaB is an object-oriented LAPACK based simulation language similar to MATLAB. It can even read .mat files and can be compiled using only a C compiler. However it defaults to "all global" variables and currently does not auto-load script files which is kind of painful. Octave is also a LAPACK based simulation language with syntax nearly identical to MATLABs. Octave currently has some problems with "pure" MATLAB scripts. Hopefully octave will, one day soon, execute MATLAB scripts "out of the box". Octave requires g++ 2.5.6 with libg++ to compile which I have not been able to get to work yet under NS3.1. Binaries are available from ftp.che.utexas.edu for most platforms including NeXT. On the down side both packages get their graphics from gnuplot. RLaB may be getting some better graphics soon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Which SLIP/PPP server? Message-ID: <Cto623.7A7@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <voltmerCtMMoo.A8y@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:22:49 GMT In article <voltmerCtMMoo.A8y@netcom.com> voltmer@netcom.com (Andrew Voltmer) writes: > What is the general recommendation for freeware/shareware software to set up > my NS Intel machine to be a SLIP or PPP server? It seems that everything I > can find is for client stuff. I could be wrong. Thanks in advance. call Morningstar -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Saving files from OmniWeb Message-ID: <Cto52E.MM1@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:01:26 GMT The Open URL Service for OmniWeb makes for quick, handy access to ftp, gopher, etc, but I'd sometimes like to save the file or a graphic locally. Is there any way to do this? Those little squiggley blue arrows on the URL lines can be dragged, but they just snap back if I try to drop them into a directory. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: engj@u.washington.edu (Jimmy Eng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seeking help w/ running OmniWeb Date: 28 Jul 1994 23:43:45 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <319frh$hav@news.u.washington.edu> I'm trying to run mosaic on my NeXTstation here. I ftp'd the latest version from ftp.omnigroup.com, gunzipped it and untarred it. After doing all that, I have an executable file OmniWeb in the directory /mosaic/OmniWeb.app. When I try to run OmniWeb, I get the following errors: OmniWeb: ^D@^M~mzN^F^A^B^L: not found OmniWeb: D^A^A8__PAGEZERO: not found OmniWeb: ^C^M^K^F: not found OmniWeb: ^G^E^E__text__TEXTGH^ADvH^A__fvmlib_init0__TEXT^B^L@^[^X^Al@^B__fvmlib_init1__TEXT^BX^B^GX__cstring__TEXT^BXL}^B^GX^B__const__TEXT^BtV^K*^BTV^A^A^A^D__DATA^B^B: not found OmniWeb: ^A__bss__DATA^B^PR8v^A^A__common__DATA^BIP^_h^D^A^A^E__OBJC^C: not found OmniWeb: ^G^G^R__class__OBJC^C^D^P^B^A__meta_class__OBJC^C^D^P^D^P^B^D^P^A__cat_cls_meth__OBJC^C^H: not found OmniWeb: syntax error at line 1: `(' unexpected Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or what I should be doing differently. Thanks! - Jimmy engj@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Human Resources software Message-ID: <1994Jul28.201255.1940@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <316fqf$1ae@sun.cais.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:12:55 GMT In comp.sys.next.misc article <3167b5$sm8@sun.cais.com> you wrote: > I was out at NEXTSTEP Expo and remember seeing a company that was > marketing a Human Resources-type of software package. > > If anyone knows of the name of the package and/or the company, could they > please send me the information (i.e name, phone ...). Any other > information or experience with this package would also be greatly > appreciated. It was humanetix. Try contacting them on +44 689 898664. I don't have an email address for them, unfortunately. PS: your mail seems to be broken. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Setting Emacs 4.0 as my default editor Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:30:13 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul28213013@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <CRATH.94Jul28082029@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> To: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) In-reply-to: crath@bnr.ca's message of 28 Jul 94 08:20:29 <crath@bnr.ca> writes: >I've read both the NEXTSTEP and Emacs online docs and can't find the >answer to this. What dwrite must I issue to tell the Workspace >Manager to use Emacs as the default editor (rather than Edit). >I expected to find the answer to this in the Emacs-For-NS info file, >but didn't. >Thanks, >Christopher You could you have read them very hard :-) Remember to read the emacs-for-ns item in C-h i ... " Another default used by many Emacs users is this. dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs It will cause the Workspace to open files without a registered extension in Emacs instead of as usual Edit. For this default to work, Emacs needs to be in the application search path of the Workspace (which usually includes `~/Apps' and `/LocalApps')." -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: woo@ra-iris19.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo) Subject: Binary Edit of old Sybase Administrator Program Message-ID: <1994Jul29.002946.22609@riacs.edu> Summary: Where? Sender: news@riacs.edu Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:29:46 GMT Rumor has it that someone has a binary edit of the NeXT OS 2.x Sybase Administrator Program so it will work under NeXT OS 3.x. Can someone point me to this patch? Thanks. Alex Woo woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov ============================================================== Alex Woo, MS 227-6 http://ccf.arc.nasa.gov/~woo/woo.html NASA Ames Research Center woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 SPANET 24582::WOO (415) 604-6010 (FAX) 604-4357 {hplabs,decwrl,uunet}!ames!woo Disclaimer: These are not official statements of NASA or EMCC. ============================================================== o__ o__ o__ o__ _.>/ _>/ _ _.>/ _.>/ _ (_) \(_)\(_) (_) \(_))\(_) (original cycles by trwagner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Implementing your own MailFetch? Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:34:44 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul28233444@steffi.demon.co.uk> I have a requirement to add some functionality to the existing MailFetch program that Mail.app users. Has anybody written their own version of this tool? One figures it just rips the message out of usr/spool/mail/username and stuff's it into Active.mbox. root:/Users/robert>/NextApps/Mail.app/MailFetch 23:33 syntax: MailFetch spooldir user host port The syntax suggests that this program communicates via mach ports with Mail.app? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hayes Modem Help Message-ID: <319qa2$dgd@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:42:10 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College ----------------------------------------------------------- hi! i just borrowed a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 from a friend of mine and i can't get it to work correctly. I am using C-Kermit. I am trying to use it exactly the same way that i was using my old 1940's .5 baud Racal-Vadic :-) which was slow as hell but worked fine. here's what my .kermrc looks like: --------------------------------- set line /dev/cufa set modem hayes set speed 9600 -------------------------------- BTW, should the baud rate be set to 14400? To be completely honest, i wasn't sure if 14400 was the just a model number or if it is actually the baud rate. I thought 9600 was the highest modem baud rate, but judging by what i have already written, you have by now, probably (correctly) deduced that i don't have the slightest clue about what i am doing. Anyway i am using a vintage NeXTStation (one of the ol' pizza boxes) and the remote site that i connect with has C-Kermit running on a Sun Sparcstation. All i did was change the modem, and change a few things in the .kermrc file and now it doesn't work so well. Is there something else that i am supposed to do with a Hayes Modem, that i am not doing? The manuals for this thing (the modem) are completely useless (they also assume that EVERYONE is using the DOS operating system). I see that there is all kinds of stuff in the NeXTStep Network and System Administration book, but this is stuff that only sysadms could ever understand - like these modem configurations and register settings on pg. 441, where are they, where are they supposed to go? I didn't have to do any of this crap with the other modem. All i did was change the permissions on /dev/cufa, set the line, speed and port in the startup file, and i was kermiting away. I hope that there others out there with a NeXT, who are also using this modem and can give some advise. Help. Please. Thanks in advance, kevin parks the center for computer music conservatory of music brooklyn college of the city university of new york E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
From: milen@shiloh.phys.temple.edu (Milen Shishkov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: problem with Movie.app Date: 29 Jul 1994 01:32:57 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <319m89$nl1@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Hi NeXTers! I seam to have problems with getting Movie.app showing .mpg (what is mpeg) files. any suggestions?
From: milen@shiloh.phys.temple.edu (Milen Shishkov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to log on another NeXT ? Date: 29 Jul 1994 01:38:14 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <319mi6$np6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Hi NeXTers! Is it possible to log on another NeXT and still use the graphic interface (the windows)
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Nasty AddressBook gotcha? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 29 Jul 1994 05:12:31 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <31a33v$e30@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> After doing all the important stuff (Xox, Doom, the latest version of OmniWeb, etc.), I have begun to explore NS 3.2---recently upgraded from 2.1, which lasted me three years. The .addresses gizmo is potentially very nice, but there is no documentation I could find on the format of the AddressBook.table file, and I didn't relish moving my flatfile addressbook over by typing it in one line at a time. A little thought and a short awk script turned lines like this: Burton:Deborah S.:HKS:1080 Main Street:Pawtucket:RI:02860:401:727-4380 x4469:debbie::SS 135-44-0456:current 03/93 into records like this: "Burton, Deborah S." = { "Full Name" = "Deborah S. Burton / HKS"; "Home Phone" = "(401)727-4380 x4469"; Birthdays = ""; Address = "{1080 Main Street\nPawtucket, RI 02860}"; "Last Update" = "current 03/93"; EMail = debbie; Info = "SS 135-44-0456"; }; This seems to be not unlike what the Workspace's address book wants: at least, it comes up with all 200+ entries in the browser, and the Contents viewer shows the right data fields. But some of the records erratically kill the Workspace (!), invariably after I select one of the "additional information" fields from the pulldown menu. All the browsers go away, and I'm invited to save my work before logging out. Is there a format bug in the above record? A bug in the address book routines? A problem with something unrelated? Has anyone seen this behavior when using the built-in address book? I may give up on the thing, since it's no more useful than my flatfile, and a lot less portable. But I'd like to get to the bottom of the problem first. Thanks for any input. Not one shred of evidence /=============================================== supports the notion that / Joshua Burton 401/435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu life is serious. /=================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs for HP Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 00:34:19 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MiC8P=u00iUz88dykm@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <31924f$kru@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 28-Jul-94 Emacs for HP by Steve Herndon@barclay > How/where can I get a version of Emacs for the HP port of NEXTSTEP? If you mean Carl Edman's NEXTSTEP-aware version of Emacs 19, I would suggest contacting him directly via email at <cedman@princeton.edu> or possibly <emacs-19-for-nextstep@capitalist.princeton.edu>. I don't know the status of the HP port of this. On the other hand, if you simply want an Emacs that works in Terminal windows, the source is available from prep.ai.mit.edu under /pub/gnu. You are more likely to get this working without a hassle on the HP. You might also consider getting emacs 18.59 rather then the 19.x versions as 18.59 requires noticably less disk space. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: jimra@aol.com (JimRA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Terminal vt100 emulation & Oracle Forms Date: 29 Jul 1994 01:52:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <31a5e1$8tf@search01.news.aol.com> References: <Ctnr9D.JBM@world.std.com> In article <Ctnr9D.JBM@world.std.com>, cmc@world.std.com (John Carty) writes: /*** plus the famous PF1-4 keys, NeXT has somewhat fewer of these keys (none). This causes some problems with mapping keys for the Forms application to use. Does anyone have experience with this? Can you suggest a keymap to use? ***/ When our customer moved to Next, we had to do a consolidated mapping that would take care of Next, vt100, vt220, vt320, and PC's as well. We ended up using a goodly number of Esc-<Key> functions to supplement the base keys on the next (instead of 'hoping' that the user knew how to setup terminal correctly). We also got them a pretty good emulator package later on called Communique that includes nicities like assignable buttons for functions/macros. (It has been an interim solution until they decide whether to fully convert to dbkit/EO their apps, of which one has been completed.) As an example of the mapping : Commit -> PF3, Esc-3 Exit -> PF4, Esc-4 Next Record -> <down arrow>, Esc-. Prev Record -> <up arrow>, Esc-, We managed to set up an oraterm mapping that pretty much has fit the bill for about 2-3 years. -- Just be sure to start with a clear idea of how you want to map the keyboard and that you stick to it (don't re-use keys for multiple functions.) Jim JimRA@aol.com armes@tds.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 29 Jul 1994 07:40:37 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: next-admin@seer.demon.co.uk I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some demo versions of software packages and because .pkg's are compressed either with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their size when compressed again through NeXTMail. This means that a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 MEG. That for me is considerable. I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful medium for distributing apps for vendors to exploit however, it would be nice to be able to reduce size of the messages whereever possible. Thoughts? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: basso@patpserv.epfl.ch (Andrea Basso) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: DSP and NeXT Date: 29 Jul 1994 08:58:45 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Sender: basso@patpserv (Andrea Basso) Distribution: world Message-ID: <31agc5$t5t@info.epfl.ch> Hello, I tryed to use sdsp (second generation DSP) developed by J. Miller of San Francisco University. Here is a little explanation: the SDSP system, is now available by anonymous ftp from CCRMA (ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, get /pub/NeXT/sdsp.tar.Z). The SDSP system, developed over the course of several years by Joel Miller, is basically a low-level replacement for the NeXT's Array Processing system (not the functions themselves, but the method of organization). It is composed of a package of routines for handling host/DSP communication and a framework for calling DSP56001 assembly routines by issuing host commands. The main goal in creating this system was to obtain an expandable and coherent environment for DSP development with a quick learning curve which also provided speed and efficiency. Well i tried on two NexT stations: 1) rom 2.66 16MB RAM NS 3.0 2) rom 2.58 8MB RAM NS 3.0 On the first one it works perfectly but not in the second one. The problem seems related with the DMA or the DSP ( i think the DSP more than th e DMA) On the other side the Musickit 4.0 works fine on both. Here is the question: There exist different versions of the DMA and DSP chips? Are there not fully compatible? thanks -Andrea
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tstuve@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Thilo Stuve) Subject: 3D-software Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <Ctp758.119@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:43:56 GMT Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet. Does a 3D-software exist for NeXTStep(Motorola) with which I can create 3D polygons and save them in standart file-formats(...that can be read by prisms on SGI)? Thank you. Thilo eMail: tstuve@onyx.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
From: ajafri@interlog.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xox Problem Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:43:35 GMT Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414 Message-ID: <31aq17$bov@steel.interlog.com> Hi! I just downloaded the latest XoX source. It compiled fine, but when I ran the program, I got a message in the console that said : Xox[12069]: objc: class `CommonStuff' not linked into application and the app just hung. Has anyone else encountered this ?? I checked the compilation log, and everything seemed OK there. All I did was type make install in ProjectBuilder. This is the first time I'm installing Xox, so I hope I'm not doing anything stupid. -- Amir Jafri ajafri@interlog.com NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SciPlot 3.9 Message-ID: <1994Jul29.135914.8204@rz-berlin.mpg.de> From: mike@rz-berlin.mpg.de (Michael Wesemann) Date: 29 Jul 94 13:59:14 +0100 Nntp-Posting-User: nntp_client Hello ! SciPlot version 3.9 (NeXT,Intel,HP), the scientific 2D plotting and manipulation program is now available. It available via WWW at: http://calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de/ mike@calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Message-ID: <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:27:30 GMT In article <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > >I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending >messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some demo >versions of software packages and because .pkg's are compressed either >with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their size when compressed again >through NeXTMail. This means that a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 >MEG. That for me is considerable. I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful >medium for distributing apps for vendors to exploit however, it would be >nice to be able to reduce size of the messages whereever possible. > >Thoughts? It's not the compression, it's the uuencoding that's mainly responsible for the increase in size. And you need that. Dave Griffiths
From: millard@amethyst.ces.cwru.edu (John Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstation pausing for no apparent reason Date: 29 Jul 1994 12:30:23 GMT Organization: The International House of Pancreas Message-ID: <31asov$b5b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello all! Has anyone had any peculiar things haapen after having installed RBrowser or Opener 3.1.3a? The reason I ask this is that after installing those two apps, and GISO, my station began to pause while conducting a process, entering a process, or exitiing a process. (Note that by process I mean anything from an 'ls' in a terminal window to entering or exiting an application) Irritated, I rebooted and watched each process come up without a hitch on the boot window. Without a hitch, that is, until it said "Reboot complete." The it decided to hang for about a minute, and THEN proceed to the loginwindow. It also decided to hang for a minute after I logged in, proceed to the account without a hitch, loading applications automatically from the dock. And then, as expected, it decided to hang while loading and exiting from BackSpace, although from experience I know it would have done the same for any app. Is this the sign of a bad default file or directory? I did a fsck on the root drive, and aside from a 0.3% frag, nothing abnormal turned up. I'm lost guys -- aside from the apps I installed last night, nothing else changed. And theoretically, neither of these apps should make a difference. Note that this is a standalone machine -- no network, slip connection, etc. Anyone!! Please help! I have nothing to go off of, nowhere to go from here! No error messages, no nothing!!! Anyways, thank you for your time and patience -- John L. Millard Computer Engineering, Case Western Reserve Univ. millard@alpha.ces.cwru.edu (No NeXTMail please)
From: millard@amethyst.ces.cwru.edu (John Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <31at4k$eer@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Control: cancel <31at4k$eer@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: 29 Jul 1994 12:38:30 GMT Organization: The International House of Pancreas Message-ID: <31at86$eer@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: No more FORTRAN?? Date: 29 Jul 1994 13:41:01 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <31b0td$nid@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> References: <1994Jul27.094916.18118@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Hello, Yesterday I saw a note in csns that basically said Absoft would continue selling their NeXTSTEP FORTRAN compilers (for both black and white hardware), but would not release any upgrades (for black or white) or do any new development (for black or white or HP/PA-RISC). I called Wood Lotz at Absoft to see if he could clear things up. He sounded surprised by this information. He made things sound much less negative. He said that Absoft was making a transition from old compiler technology to new technology. (Please bear with me; these are my words and I'm not particularly computer literate). He said that NeXTSTEP was not singled out. He said that new development would focus on platforms for which Absoft currently did NOT have a product (e.g., PowerPC). As a result, the *existing* NeXTSTEP ports (Intel and Motorola) would not be updated (at least not in the near future). The good news is that a port to NS/HP would be a good candidate for the new technology and new development, as Absoft currently has no product there. The bad news is that unless there seems to be enough demand, they will focus on larger markets. In summary, Wood Lotz said that although an Absoft port of Fortran to NS/HP has not yet been approved, there has been no decision to NOT do a port. It all depends on how much interest there is. I have been collecting names of interested persons and I think it will come down to the size of this list. Please send names my way if you can think of anyone interested. Thanks, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: jheidelo@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LISP for Intel Date: 29 Jul 1994 13:34:45 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Message-ID: <31b0hl$nf9@mustang.alleg.edu> Has anyone been successful in compiling an Intel version of a LISP for NS/FIP? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- Jason Heideloff... jheidelo@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTMail Welcome
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 29 Jul 1994 15:38:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <31b7pt$42c@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > In article <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > > >I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending > >messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some demo > >versions of software packages and because .pkg's are compressed either > >with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their size when compressed again > >through NeXTMail. This means that a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 > >MEG. That for me is considerable. I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful > >medium for distributing apps for vendors to exploit however, it would be > >nice to be able to reduce size of the messages whereever possible. > > > >Thoughts? > > It's not the compression, it's the uuencoding that's mainly responsible for > the increase in size. And you need that. > I believe Mail's compression of already-compressed data within a package is the real culprit. If you uncompress the *.tar.Z file within the package and mail that, the resulting message is considerably smaller (but of course, the user on the other end must recompress before using Installer :-( An interesting workaround is to use an Installer pre_install script to do this compression, but this requires the presence of a symbolic link in the package with the .tar.Z extension to work and this link should be to a temp file that your pre_install script produces. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xox Problem Date: 29 Jul 1994 15:43:44 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <31b83g$l0b@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <31aq17$bov@steel.interlog.com> In article <31aq17$bov@steel.interlog.com> ajafri@interlog.com writes: ->Hi! ->I just downloaded the latest XoX source. It compiled fine, but when I ran the ->program, I got a message in the console that said : -> ->Xox[12069]: objc: class `CommonStuff' not linked into application -> ->and the app just hung. -> ->Has anyone else encountered this ?? ->I checked the compilation log, and everything seemed OK there. ->All I did was type make install in ProjectBuilder. ->This is the first time I'm installing Xox, so I hope I'm not doing anything ->stupid. -> I've had this occur to me too. Made me kinda dissapointed too. I wanna try this :) Incidentally, I'm still running 3.0 on black. It occurs to me that might have something to do with it. Perhaps someone would care to enlighten me? :) Thanx -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: SoftPC Message-ID: <1994Jul29.152443.29355@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 15:24:43 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA Is there a demo version of SoftPC anywhere that I could try on an actual program. There is really only one program I need to run and if it does not work I won't need the software. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: <BMKBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DCL ? Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:13:42 EDT Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center Message-ID: <94210.121342BMKBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Disclaimer: Author bears full responsibility for this post If anybody knows what DCL is please e-mail me. I am getting a job to work with DCL and I have no idea what it is. Thank You. Boris (bmkbc@cunyvm.cuny.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Which SLIP/PPP server? Message-ID: <1994Jul29.153706.4689@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <Cto623.7A7@txnews.amd.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:37:06 GMT In article <Cto623.7A7@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <voltmerCtMMoo.A8y@netcom.com> voltmer@netcom.com (Andrew Voltmer) > writes: > > What is the general recommendation for freeware/shareware software to set up > > my NS Intel machine to be a SLIP or PPP server? It seems that everything I > > can find is for client stuff. I could be wrong. Thanks in advance. > > call Morningstar TransSys PNI SLIP supports server operation. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: lfil@athos.az.stratus.com (Lonnie Filbrun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Archie for NeXT 3.0 Date: 29 Jul 1994 17:46:25 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <31bf9h$9n9@transfer.stratus.com> mickey@shiva.UU.NET wrote: > > You can get an Archie client from cs.orst.edu somewhere like... > > /pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info > > ------ > Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net > Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) > http://stravinsky.acc-lab.american.edu:3001 > > "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph > > "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby Is the Archie source available? I tried to FTP Archie2.05a.tar.Z from sonata.cc.purdue.edu. This is a package which attempts to FTP to a host called: superc.che.udel.edu to get the actual source files. I tried to FTP to this site to get the source but user anonymous no longer has access. I am trying to compile Archie on a i486 platform with some minor changes to allow use with our firewall. I have an old version 1.02? which I modified, but when I tried to compile there are Prospero utility libraries which were originally compiled on m68K hardware at the University of Washington and the source for the libraries are not included. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Lonnie -- #import <stdDisclaimer.h> /* ==============[ NeXT Mail Welcome! ]== */ Lonnie L. Filbrun Lonnie_Filbrun@vos.stratus.com (VOS Mail) Stratus Computer, Inc. lfil@az.stratus.com (NeXT/InterNet Mail) Customer Assistance Center (602) 852-3152 (Voice Mail) Telecommunications Division 4455 E. Camelback Rd #115-A Phoenix AZ, 85018 Tel# (800) 828-8513
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs question Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:08 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <29JUL199411084498@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I use emacs in an X-enviroment when SLIPing to remote machines. Of course, things are slow. Especially menus. I have to hold the mouse button down for 10 seconds or so. Is there a way to tell emacs to keep a menu up until a selection is made or a mouse button is pushed outside of the menu? I'm worried about wearing out my mouse when I have to hold the buttons down in this manner repeatedly. Any ideas? Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hendryj@il.us.swissbank.com (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Message-ID: <1994Jul29.174231.29284@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <31b7pt$42c@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 17:42:31 GMT Art Isbell writes > I believe Mail's compression of already-compressed data within a > package is the real culprit. If you uncompress the *.tar.Z file within > the package and mail that, the resulting message is considerably smaller > (but of course, the user on the other end must recompress before using > Installer :-( > An interesting workaround is to use an Installer pre_install script to > do this compression, but this requires the presence of a symbolic link in > the package with the .tar.Z extension to work and this link should be to a > temp file that your pre_install script produces. Mail appears to be using the -f flag with compress, so that compression is used regardless of whether or not there is any compression actually being done. Is there any way to turn that off? (Such as by editing the binary?) -- Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is entirely coincidental.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9407291552.AA15814@network.cfc.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:52:44 -0400 Subject: writing tools: summary (long) My original post: >Background Info: >There is a series of books waiting to be written. Each of the books in this >series will be written by one, perhaps two, perhaps three people. All the >writing will be done on NEXTSTEP--Intel and Motorola. Each book will be >composed of text and graphics of some sort. The objective is to produce both >hardcopy and electronic forms of each book. The electronic forms must have >some sort of hypertext navigation. > >Questions: >What are the best tools to use for writing this kind of book? PasteUp, LaTeX, >Frame, Pages, etc.? And what are the advantages and unique features of each >of these tools (please include your religious as well as your factual >arguments)? >What about revision control software for the projects? > >Please email me. I'll post a summary if there's interest. > >Timothy Mills >t6882tm@network.cfc.com >NeXTmail welcomed! My thanks to those who responded: Dan Johnston <dan@memory.mbl.edu> Jacob Gore <jacob.gore@mccaw.com> Kris Magnusson In addition, Hal Varian has recommended that I use LaTex, and another friend swears by Frame. So, it seems that there is no consensus and no one, really great tool on NEXTSTEP that most would recommend to use for this task. Here are their replies in full as requested by other interested parties: Well, I just finished a 700 pg textbook using latex on the next. It has about 450 illustrations obtained from various draw programs, pictex, and scans. All are included within the latex file using \begin{figure} \epsffile{*.eps} ...\end{figure}, etc. It is really quite easy using the dvips available for the next. Emacs (using Bebe's latex mode), texmenu, texview etc, are *wonderful* utilities that make using latex on the next a breeze. Other than figure placement, which is a bit of a pain in latex until you get the hang of it, I can't imagine a better way of doing a book. Remember, tex has automatic indexing and table of contents generation, heading, section, equation, and figure numbering, etc. When the document starts getting large, having all of this done for you automatically saves a huge amount of time. We produced a completely electronic file (~500megs) for the book, which will actually be one of the first done this way by the publisher and printer. Good luck, dan -- Dan Johnston, Professor of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, 1 Baylor Plaza, Houston, TX 77030 Internet: dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) (713) 798-5984 (Office phone), (FAX) (713) 799-8544 or (713) 798-3946 ******************************************************** I tend to prefer LaTeX for writing anything long (including books). I like it because the style files can be set up to do amazing things (if you have amazing understanding of TeX and lots of patience:-). If the result needs to be camera-ready, the quality of the typesetting is unsurpassed. Graphics (encapsulated PostScript) are easy to include in the NeXT version, and the previewer is very nice. For a multi-person project, I strongly suggest using RedMark for reviews, and installing CVS (or one of the commercial GUI interfaces to RCS) to do revision control. LaTeX+CVS will make merging changes from several authors or editors very easy. However, you would need some additional tool to generate hypertext. Something along the lines of GNU's `info', but `info' is aimed at character-based terminals, and thus generates quite an ugly page... I am not aware of this kind of tool that is available right now, but I haven't been following these types of tools. I only use PasteUp for short things, and don't use it that much, so I can't comment on how suitable it is. In case you get comments about its flakeyness, let me attest that since being taken over by AFS, it's become a much better product. Version 2.5, the first AFS release (and the latest one at this time) is very good. I have used FrameMaker (whatever version was on the NeXT in 1991) to do a short (~50pp) book. I found it useable, but not as flexible as LaTeX, and its NEXTSTEP interface was lacking. I have used WordPerfect for NeXT to do a ~12pp brochure, and would only recommend it to a competitor :-) For every minute of writing, two minutes were spent convincing WP to put the damned thing where I wanted it. Usually, it would move things to a different page or resize them to a bizarre size. I could swear I was dealing with an artificial (and hostile) intelligence. For the hypertext, I'd consider just using Edit. However, page breaks and numbering will be a problem for printed copy. I'd love to hear what you came up with. Jacob -- Jacob Gore Eastern New Mexico University: jacob@blackbox.enmu.edu Consulting at McCaw Cellular: jacob.gore@nwest.mccaw.com ******************************************************** Actually, I'm writing this book on NS/Intel using Frame 3.2. It's my company's tutorial manual, to be printed in a couple weeks, and then to be transformed into a hypertext document for internal use. I used Frame because a) it's a product I know well; b) it's potentially SGML compliant, and therefore HTML compliant as well; and c) because Frame provides a facility by which I can turn a Frame document into a hypertext reader easily. Revision control? Hah. ..................................kris ********************************************************
Control: cancel <1994Jul29.152045.29131@investor.pgh.pa.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Jul29.152045.29131@investor.pgh.pa.us> Message-ID: <1994Jul29.181512.2197@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 18:15:12 GMT References: <1994Jul29.152045.29131@investor.pgh.pa.us> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs_for_NS Question Date: 29 Jul 1994 20:32:41 GMT Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Distribution: world Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Jul29213241@strings4.ph.qmw.ac.uk> My machine's graphics are pretty slow and hence I would like to override the following behaviour: every time I open a Emacs file (Emacs is my DefaultOpenApp) it creates a new frame for it unless a *buffer* is on the original frame. What variable should I set? Many thanks, -Jose -- +----------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.71.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.81.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | TeX: jmf@strings4.ph.qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | +----------------------------------+--------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom) Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF conversion with good color reduction Message-ID: <1994Jul29.164448.11177@bacchus.com> Sender: eric@bacchus.com Organization: Bacchus, Inc. References: <316d7h$3f@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 16:44:48 GMT In article <316d7h$3f@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) writes: > I am trying to find a preferably shareware/freeware application that will > reduce a 24bit color image to 256 colors and create an acceptable image - > Graphicsworkshop does not. If you suggest pnmdepth/pbm tools, please include > advice on how to use this tool effectively. I have been equally disappointed > with it... Thanks. > -- > James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU > jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here > Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals > Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/ Our commercial application, Pixel Magician, handles color reduction/dithering. Images can be reduced to ... 15, 12 bit RGB color 8, 4, 2 or 1 bit color paletted 8, 4, 2 bit gray 1 bit black and white When reducing to a paletted format, the user can choose one of three different methods to generate the palette, e.g., average pixels, average colors and center box. Error diffusion dithering: Floyd-Steinberg, Stucki or Jarvis, Judice and Ninke. Any conversion can be run in batch mode, e.g., reduce and dither an entire folder of image files. MAB demo available from: Location: cs.orst.edu:pub/next/demos/graphics File: PixelMagician1.4b.MAB.compressed Eric Bloom Bacchus, Inc. info@bacchus.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:57:17 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31bjed$rri@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending > > messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some > > demo versions of software packages and because .pkg's are > > compressed either with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their > > size when compressed again through NeXTMail. This means that > > a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 MEG. That for me is considerable. > > I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful medium for distributing apps > > for vendors to exploit however, it would be nice to be able to > > reduce size of the messages whereever possible. > > > >Thoughts? Problems with compatability. If you send me a NeXTmail message which did not include the expected compression-step, then what is my NeXTmail going to do with it? What about mail applications besides NeXT's Mail.app, which also expect they have to uncompress all NeXTmail messages. If one is going to make an incompatable change, then I'd think we should consider using gzip instead of compress. (dave's thoughts were:) > It's not the compression, it's the uuencoding that's mainly > responsible for the increase in size. And you need that. No, it's the result of using compress. I've documented this a few times in the past, with specific examples. If you take some archive, and sent it (as a tar file) in a NeXTmail message, the result is much smaller than if you take that tar file, compress it (into a tar.Z file), and then mail *that* in a NeXTmail message. The problem is due to the way compress itself works. If you use unix's compress command on an already-compressed file, it uncompresses it. In this case, I'm comparing the sizes of what ends up being sent over the wire. Ie, the amount of data that ends up in the /usr/spool/mail/whoever file, and not the size of the message after NeXTmail has pulled it into your Active.mbox. However, this does not happen for tar.gz files. If you send a tar.gz file this problem does not occur. (of course, if you do use a tar.gz file then the compress-step in NeXTmail processing doesn't really compress it much, and it may even increase the size a little). When mailing the tar.gz file, the uuencode step is the only step that significantly increases the size of the message. And, as Dave notes, you do need that step, or something pretty similar to that step. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Message-ID: <1994Jul29.183404.5095@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 18:34:04 GMT In article <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > In article <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > > >I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending > >messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some demo > >versions of software packages and because .pkg's are compressed either > >with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their size when compressed again > >through NeXTMail. This means that a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 > >MEG. That for me is considerable. I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful > >medium for distributing apps for vendors to exploit however, it would be > >nice to be able to reduce size of the messages whereever possible. > > > >Thoughts? > > It's not the compression, it's the uuencoding that's mainly responsible for > the increase in size. And you need that. uuencode does indeed increase size; but I suggest you experiment by forcing compression (compress -f). You will find that many .pkg.tar files will increase in size. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Newbie on Networking a NeXT to Macintosh Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:49:45 -0500 Organization: Amaranth Communications Message-ID: <3.47639319.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com> Need help on a NeXT networking problem. Got a Macintosh Quadra 610 with built in ethernet. Modem port of the Macintosh has a dialin modem. Printer port of the Macintosh has a SLIP 28,800 set on it, the built-in ethernet is connected to the NeXT. The SLIP connect is dialed into a unix host 24hrs a day. The NeXT for some reson dosn't want to talk to the Macintosh or the net. Here is the IP settings. The Unix host is XXX.XXX.XXX.1, the netblazer is XXX.XXX.XXX.2, the Macintosh with the SLIP is set to XXX.XXX.XXX.10 and the NeXT is set to XXX.XXX.XXX.18. Please note the the NeXT is pluged straight into the Mac and the Mac has the SLIP connect to the unix host. The mac is fine on the net. All the stuff works great. The NeXT seems brain dead to the Mac and to the internet. Please help. I'm lost on this one. Thanks Mark Pappas Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: DCL ? Message-ID: <1994Jul30.103812.7067@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <94210.121342BMKBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 10:38:12 GMT <BMKBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> writes: >If anybody knows what DCL is please e-mail me. I am getting a job to work with >DCL and I have no idea what it is. > >Thank You. >Boris (bmkbc@cunyvm.cuny.edu) DCL stands for Digital Control Language (or something similar) and is the shell language of VMS. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC Date: 30 Jul 1994 11:56:24 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <18771.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> To: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us On Fri, 29 Jul 94 15:24:43 GMT, Bob Peirce #305 wrote: >Is there a demo version of SoftPC anywhere that I could try on an actual >program. There is really only one program I need to run and if it does >not work I won't need the software. >-- >Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 >rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is a 30 Day evaluation copy of it on the NS 3.2 Installation CD. Just go into the NextCD Directory, and the .pkg should be there. Steve -- Research and Development Team | I'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Phoenix Project | my computer has different ideas. SEINS | plain-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: "DeSLIPpifying" a NeXTstation Date: 30 Jul 1994 15:22:07 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <31dr6v$6b@news.iastate.edu> Anyone gone through the "deSLIPpification" process? If so your help is needed: For the next couple of months I will be needing to bring my at home NeXTstation --- which uses Louis' wonderful SLIP package --- into the office, where I will boot it up on the net. I got the local net cops to give me an alternate name and IP# (given the upcoming shortage you can't have too many :) and thought "deSLIPpification" would be pretty easy. In fact, I was going to write a shell script to automate the process. I made a copy of hostconfig, hostconfig.dirac, and put in the alternate name, IP#, netmask, etc. I made an alternate copy of rc.local called rc.local.noslip in which I commented out the line that launches the slip process. Then I just swapped the new files for hte old and rebooted. The boot process shows that the new hostname "dirac" and the new IP# are set just fine, but when it comes time to add the default route I get "network not available". There is no gateway in the routing tables, and when I try to add it by hand I again get "network not avaialable". So.... is there some step I've missed (Obviously eh?) Any help on this is *really* appreciated, as I need to get it implemented REAL SOON NOW. Thanks in advance ---- Tom -- =========================================================================== Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: langner@next1.rz.fh-weingarten.de (Peter Langner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC-client for NeXT Date: 30 Jul 1994 15:55:01 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <31dt4l$7sl@news.belwue.de> Hi, I am looking for an irc client for my NeXTCube NS3.1. Has anybody an idea ? Thanxs alot, Peter
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs_for_NS Question Date: 30 Jul 1994 06:17:17 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul30071717@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Jul29213241@strings4.ph.qmw.ac.uk> To: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) In-reply-to: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk's message of 29 Jul 1994 20:32:41 GMT <J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk> writes: >My machine's graphics are pretty slow and hence I would like to >override the following behaviour: every time I open a Emacs file >(Emacs is my DefaultOpenApp) it creates a new frame for it unless a >*buffer* is on the original frame. What variable should I set? >Many thanks, >-Jose Well. first of all if you intend to use Emacs you might be interested in emacs-for-ns-users@steffi.demon.co.uk (send a message with Subject:subscribe) we talk about that stuff there. Try... adding (define-key global-map [ns-open-file] 'ns-find-file) to your .emacs -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: What is RedMark Message-ID: <Ctrnt6.9Ao@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 18:39:05 GMT In a recent post, I read something about RedMark. I seem to recall that it is something for editting documents. What is it, where can I get it, how much is it, etc. -robert- -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Message-ID: <CtrJ1M.3s2@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <31b7pt$42c@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Jul29.174231.29284@il.us.swissbank.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 16:56:09 GMT In article <1994Jul29.174231.29284@il.us.swissbank.com>, Jonathan Hendry <hendryj@il.us.swissbank.com> wrote: > Mail appears to be using the -f flag with compress, so that > compression is used regardless of whether or not there is any > compression actually being done. Is there any way to turn that off? > (Such as by editing the binary?) It's not because of a -f, it's simply because the data is piped through compress, so compress has no choice. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@netcom.com (Tom Thomas) Subject: PNI hangs... Help? Message-ID: <thomasCtrnux.L6G@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 18:40:04 GMT I have grabbed TransSys Slip 1.9 Beta and installed it on a Pentium '66 running NS 3.2. (I returned my netinfo, hosts, and hostconfig to their defaults, before doing the install.) I am able to dial out, connect, and run any client I'd like (ftp, telnet, etc) but my connection hangs for some unknown reason... Usually when I am doing something bandwidth intensive (binary ftp typically). After the cslip connection hangs, I am unable to launch NetInfoManager.app I must restart the machine to use NetInfoManager.app. Transfers are quite slow, also. Has anyone else experienced this problem? What remedy could you recommend? Tom Thomas thomas@netcom.com (usually)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Wanted: ND frame grabbing software Message-ID: <1994Jul30.234843.25112@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <ANDERSON.94Jul27160804@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 23:48:43 GMT In article <ANDERSON.94Jul27160804@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes: >> >>I have a classic cube, and because it was once the only way to get >>color, I have an ND board in it, which I have never used as anything >>but a color display. But I find I have a more serious use for it: I >>have a good deal of videotape which I'd like to be able to digitize so >>as to make some measurements on the individual frame images. I'm sure >>there's some software out there - homemade, (not too expensive) >>commercial, or for all I know already included with the system >>(wouldn't that be nice?) - that will do what I want, but I don't know >>where to look for it. Macintoshes have frame grabber boards that >>convert running video to a sequence of TIFF files, and I'll be >>surprised if the ND isn't up to it. I don't insist on hardware jpeg >>compression :-) If I remember right, you can write software to grab reasonable size TIFFs from from a real-time video stream to the ND at around ~11Hz. That's probably unacceptable, but heck; with current technology (a $3500 Video Vision Studio card hooked up to a $5000 RAID drive) it's still hard to grab good looking full rez video from a real-time stream, and the ND was made many moons ago, and never really finished. The real solution is that you want to be able to single step through your incoming video stream and digitize that way. The best thing to do is to get your video tape dubbed onto a recordable laser disk, then hook up a serial port controllable CAV laser disk player to your ND and single step through the video and record it to disk that way. If you get to that point, I *might* be able to point you at some software to help. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: millard@amethyst.ces.cwru.edu (John Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUMMARY -- NeXTstation pausing for no reason... Date: 1 Aug 1994 12:28:44 GMT Organization: The International House of Pancreas Message-ID: <31ipps$6ah@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Well, the problem has been solved... First, I would like to thank those who respond both by posting and by e-mail: b7ns@musicb.mcgill.ca (Piotr Twarecki) jq@phcs.com (James E. Quick) tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) schaik@cnplss5.cnsp.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) andrew.abernathy@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) jtodd@digex.net (John Todd) js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) If I missed anybody, I'm sorry -- if I misspelled anyone's name, my apologies... Anyway, it turns out that the program Opener3.1.3a was at fault -- evidently, this program mails a short letter to an address at MIT, presumably to the original author or to whomever maintains the program. If any mention of this mailing was included in the documentation, then I missed it by a mile -- but I don't remember coming across anything that said it was going to mail something somewhere. Hence, the delay was coming from my sendmail daemon trying to mail a doc across a non-existent network. By deleting the app and the mail in the queue (Didn't want a recurrence by possibly leaving the app on the drive), my lag has disappeared and all is happy and peaceful... But just out of curiosity -- should I be concerned about a program which decides it wants to mail something somewhere without my knowledge? Once again, if I missed a note in the docs that mentioned any test mailings, I'm sorry -- but I tend to get nervous, be it right or wrong, when programs mail stuff to other sites without my knowledge -- especially when the program is owned by root.wheel. Well, thank you all again for your advice! And if anyone has any ideas on that last paragraph, please mail me at the address listed below... John L. Millard millard@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY -- NeXTstation pausing for no reason... Date: 1 Aug 1994 12:41:45 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <31iqi9$qjj@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <31ipps$6ah@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> In article <31ipps$6ah@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, John Millard <millard@amethyst.ces.cwru.edu> wrote: >Anyway, it turns out that the program Opener3.1.3a was at fault -- >evidently, this program mails a short letter to an address at MIT, >[...] >But just out of curiosity -- should I be concerned about a program which Yes, you should be. >decides it wants to mail something somewhere without my knowledge? Once >again, if I missed a note in the docs that mentioned any test mailings, >I'm sorry -- but I tend to get nervous, be it right or wrong, when programs >mail stuff to other sites without my knowledge -- especially when the >program is owned by root.wheel. MIT works for Big Brother, which hardly sets it apart from other research-oriented universities (like mine). They seem to think Anything They Do Is Good. At least some of their apps put up a window informing you about the impending mail so you can bail out if you don't like that. -- <> To his dog, every man is Napoleon; hence the constant <> popularity of dogs. <> -- Aldous Huxley -- Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison. Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 01 Aug 1994 06:12:16 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug1071216@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <31bjed$rri@usenet.rpi.edu> <31gr2k$7mn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> To: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 31 Jul 1994 18:38:12 GMT Actually I posted something about this a while and had a few people respond. Here's one from Alberto Ricart. From @spool.mu.edu:alberto@parsec.smartsoft.com Mon Mar 21 20:45:41 1994 Return-Path: <@spool.mu.edu:alberto@parsec.smartsoft.com> Received: from post.demon.co.uk by steffi.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NX5.67d/25-eef) id AA05156; Mon, 21 Mar 94 20:45:32 GMT Received: from post.demon.co.uk via puntmail for robert@steffi.demon.co.uk; Mon Mar 21 20:44:58 1994 Received: from spool.mu.edu by post.demon.co.uk id aa16823; 21 Mar 94 20:42 GMT Received: by spool.mu.edu id AA27263 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for robert@steffi.demon.co.uk); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 14:42:06 -0600 >Received: from orion by parsec (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00866; Mon, 21 Mar 94 14:28:40 -0600 From: Alberto Ricart <alberto@parsec.smartsoft.com> Message-Id: <9403212028.AA00866@parsec> Received: from orion by parsec (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00866; Mon, 21 Mar 94 14:28:40 -0600 Received: by orion (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA00718; Mon, 21 Mar 94 14:28:40 -0600 Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 14:28:40 -0600 To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk Subject: Yes you can... A better way to use Installer app... Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2366 Status: RO People, At SmartSoft we have been doing this since 3.0 days. It's too bad, that floppies have very little room under NEXTSTEP. In order to maintain compatibility with 3.0 machines that do not contain gzip, we have been bundling a small program called funzip. Funzip is a freely distributable filter that understands gzip and zip file compression formats, written by Mark Adler. As Andrew said, this process has many possible gotchas. But I think we have seen most of them. One that remains, is for fat bundles. Fat bundles cannot be run on 3.0 systems, so you'll need to package those separately. Our packaging system has been streamlined with each subsequent release. This obviously only works for files that you can fit in one disk. The current package looks something like this: total 1159 -rw-rw-r-- 1 alberto 24576 Mar 7 18:43 StayInTouch.bom -r--r--r-- 1 alberto 788 Mar 7 18:43 StayInTouch.info -rwxrwxr-x 1 alberto 144 Mar 7 18:45 StayInTouch.post_install* -rwxrwxr-x 1 alberto 293 Mar 7 18:45 StayInTouch.pre_install* -rw-rw-r-- 1 alberto 51 Mar 7 18:43 StayInTouch.sizes lrwxrwxrwx 1 alberto 22 Mar 7 18:45 StayInTouch.tar.Z -> /tmp/StayInTouch.tar.Z@ -r--r--r-- 1 alberto 1086416 Mar 7 18:43 StayInTouch.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 alberto 2476 Mar 7 18:43 StayInTouch.tiff -rwxrwxr-x 1 alberto 57344 Mar 7 18:45 funzip* In contrast, a compressed disk would require several 100K's of additional disk space. Please not the link file. This was to avoid anyone from locking their distribution disk and messing up installation. We don't care about deinstallation, since the file is compressed and it all works great. The scripts do this: StayInTouch.pre_install #!/bin/csh -f cd $1 if (-f StayInTouch.tar.gz) then $1/funzip StayInTouch.tar.gz | compress -f > /tmp/StayInTouch.tar.Z if (-f /tmp/StayInTouch.tar.Z) then echo "OK" else echo "FAILED" echo "The /tmp directory must be writable for installation to work." endif else echo "OK" endif StayInTouch.post_install #!/bin/csh -f cd $1 if (-f /tmp/StayInTouch.tar.Z) then rm /tmp/StayInTouch.tar.Z echo "OK" else echo "OK" endif else echo "OK" endif Hope this helps, --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321 alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: ccwf@hegel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 1 Aug 1994 13:56:11 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <31iutr$qnu@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> <31bjed$rri@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <31bjed$rri@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: >Problems with compatability. If you send me a NeXTmail message >which did not include the expected compression-step, then what >is my NeXTmail going to do with it? What about mail applications >besides NeXT's Mail.app, which also expect they have to uncompress >all NeXTmail messages. Well, if you change the format, there are always backward-compatability problems. >If one is going to make an incompatable change, then I'd think >we should consider using gzip instead of compress. I would suggest - using gzip (-9) instead of compress; - auto-detecting when the compression didn't help; - making compression optional for people doing private transfers across modem-connections which are already compressed; - replacing uuencode (increases size by 35%, almost no error detection capability) filter with a btoa filter (increases size by 25% + error detection and _correction_); - making uuencode/btoa step optional for those that can handle binary mail body data; - allowing storage of attachments in compressed form to save disk space. - better mbox format so Mail doesn't wind up trashing your letters after receiving oddly formatted letters; - fixing the RTFD tabbing problem; - fixing the ASCII tabbing problem; - warnings when sending symbolic links; - correct handling of hard links; - more user-friendly handling of multiple files with the same name; - ability to see filenames of attachments like we could back in 2.x; - fewer crashes or at least attempting to save a partially composed letter when it does crash; - built-in ability to split/reasssemble long letters; - MIME support (yes, I know it's coming); - built-in ability to kill return receipts (can do this now with custom sendmail option); - not resetting the status of messages after moving them to another mailbox and thereby sending return receipts all over again; - easier way to request standard (as opposed to NeXT) return receipts; - making it correctly use the dot convention like very other mailer; - stop that spaces at the end of lines/sometimes double-spaced ASCII thing that makes letters look awful on non-NeXT readers; - new sendmail daemon and rmail; - use comsat on mail servers; - .... :-) Regards, -ccwf
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LISP for Intel Date: 1 Aug 1994 14:25:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <31j0l7$3ab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <31b0hl$nf9@mustang.alleg.edu> In article <31b0hl$nf9@mustang.alleg.edu> jheidelo@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) writes: > Has anyone been successful in compiling an Intel version of a LISP for > NS/FIP? Any help would be greatly appreciated! akcl, now apparently known as Gnu CL, works -- I posted a long note about this a while ago. I'll append the previous message. As I explained then, this is oriented toward our software, so you may want to make the obvious changes. We started to make this more or less automatic, but are held up for the moment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Modify files (included below) h/NeXT.h h/NeXT.defs c/NeXTunixsave.c c/NeXTunixfasl.c Run add-defs NeXT /Local/Lisp/kcl make -f Smakefile make make install (last line is optional -- see akcl's README) This will die with a complaint about -lc -- there are two references in unixport/makefile (generated in the run of make above) -- delete the -lc occurrences, and fire up make again. Here are the current versions of the files mentioned above (or at least the changed portions) -- the resultant akcl is known to work with CMN/CM/CLM but does not include any MIDI stuff yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ h/NeXT.defs # # For NeXT Operating system 3. # LBINDIR=/Local/Unix/bin OFLAG= -O LIBS= -u _SNDReadSoundfile -u _SNDStartPlaying -u _SNDWait -u _SNDFree -u _SNDStop -u _SNDSetHost -u _SNDAcquire -u _snddriver_get_device_parms -u _SNDRelease -u _snddriver_set_device_parms -u _snddriver_get_volume -u _snddriver_set_volume -u _snddriver_set_ramp -u _valloc -u _mutex_try_lock -u _mutex_wait_lock -u _cthread_detach -u _port_set_allocate -u _port_set_add -u _port_set_deallocate -u _name_server_port -u _mach_error_string -u _port_allocate -u _port_deallocate -u _mig_get_reply_port -u _msg_rpc -u _msg_send -u _mig_dealloc_reply_port -u _sscanf -lsys_s -lm LIBC= ODIR_DEBUG= -g CC= cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -I$(AKCLDIR)/o -fwritable-strings # The option -seglinkedit is specified so that rld_load() can be used. LDCC= ld -X -seglinkedit -segprot __TEXT rwx rwx /lib/crt0.o # bcmp(), bcopy(), and bzero() are already included in the NeXT C library. LIBFILES= CFLAGS = -c $(DEFS) -I../h MAIN = ../o/main.o INITFORM=(setq compiler::*cc* "cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -fwritable-strings") MPFILES=$(MPDIR)/mpi.o $(MPDIR)/libmport.a # Use symbolic links SYMB=-s # the make to use for saved_kcp the profiler. KCP=kcp-next ------------------------------------------------------------------------ h/NeXT.h #ifndef NeXT #define NeXT #endif #include "bsd.h" #undef SFASL #undef HAVE_AOUT #define PAGEWIDTH 12 /* The following value determines the running process size. */ #define BIG_HEAP_SIZE 0x2000000 #undef MAXPAGE #define MAXPAGE (2*16384) #undef SET_REAL_MAXPAGE #define SET_REAL_MAXPAGE \ { extern int mach_maplimit; sbrk(0); real_maxpage = mach_maplimit/PAGESIZE; } #define sbrk my_sbrk #define ADDITIONAL_FEATURES \ ADD_FEATURE("MACH"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NeXT"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NEXT"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NEXT-3.0"); \ ADD_FEATURE("I386"); \ ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE"); \ ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE-ENV-SIZE") #define CLEAR_CACHE #define UNIXSAVE "NeXTunixsave.c" #define UNIXFASL "NeXTunixfasl.c" #define SEEK_TO_END_OFILE seek_to_end_ofile #define I386 #define IEEEFLOAT /* we can use the system malloc without interference with lisp storage allocation */ #define DONT_NEED_MALLOC #ifdef IN_MAIN #include <fcntl.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #endif char *find_executable(); #define LITTLE_ENDIAN /* Begin for cmpinclude */ #define HAVE_ALLOCA #ifdef __GNUC__ #undef __BUILTIN_VA_ARG_INCR #endif /* End for cmpinclude */ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ c/NeXTunixfasl.c change the includes from #include <mach.h> #include <sys/loader.h> #include <rld.h> to #include <mach/mach.h> #include <mach-o/loader.h> #include <mach-o/rld.h> Then delete both references to asm("trap #2") -- change asm("trap #2"); /* clear cache */ call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data); to: call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data); (occurs twice). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ c/NeXTunixsave.c change the includes from: #include <mach.h> #include <sys/loader.h> to: #include <mach/mach.h> #include <mach-o/loader.h> and if you have an old version of akcl, make sure the getsectbyname declaration is changed from: extern struct section *getsectbyname(char *, char *); to: extern const struct section *getsectbyname( const char *segname, const char *sectname); ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please let me know if this is incomplete or inaccurate. (bil@ccrma.stanford.edu)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY -- NeXTstation pausing for no reason... Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:32:14 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiDFJyq00Uh702w71P@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <31ipps$6ah@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 1-Aug-94 SUMMARY -- NeXTstation paus.. by John Millard@amethyst.ce > But just out of curiosity -- should I be concerned about a program which > decides it wants to mail something somewhere without my knowledge? Yes. A program should *always* tell you before sending email, particularly if you don't even get a chance to see what the contents of that email is. For one thing, you have to wonder what else the program is going to do without you knowing; for another, sending mail without verifying with the user is not very ethical. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Making a TeX .TFM file from a .MF file Message-ID: <Ctv5Kv.LE0@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Keywords: tex; metafont Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:55:43 GMT I'm trying to create a TeX APL font from files posted to the TeX archives, which contain a metafont file, cmapl10.mf and TeX style file, aplstyle.tex. I've read the next tex manual, and can find no detailed instructions. I did find info about MakeTeXPK, and ran that, with MakeTeXPK cmapl10 400 400 1 which seemed to work (tho' I just guessed at the parameters). However, TeX still says it can't find cmapl10.tfm, as shown below. Can anyone indicate what the problem might be and how to fix it? hotspur:apl [11] % MakeTeXPK cmapl10 400 400 1 mf \mode:=nexthi; mag:=1; scrollmode; input cmapl10 \</dev/null This is METAFONT, C Version 2.71 (/usr/lib/mf/inputs/cmapl10.mf (/usr/lib/mf/inputs/cmbase.mf) [32] [4] [13] [12] [5] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [33] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [46] [47] [58] [59] [61] [91] [93] [36] [63] [45] [21] [7] [16] [17] [34] [38] [8] [31] [94] [95] [30] [18] [19] [60] [62] [20] [23] [10] [11] [92] [124] [9] [123] [125] [39] [35] [37] [15] [14] [6] [22] [3] [2] [24] [25] [27] [26] [28] [29] [1] [65] [66] [67] [68] [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] [76] [77] [78] [79] [80] [81] [82] [83] [84] [85] [86] [87] [88] [89] [90] [97] [98] [99] [100] [101] [102] [103] [104] [105] [106] [107] [108] [109] [110] [111] [112] [113] [114] [115] [116] [117] [118] [119] [120] [121] [122] ) Font metrics written on cmapl10.tfm. Output written on cmapl10.400gf (123 characters, 13208 bytes). Transcript written on cmapl10.log. This is GFtoPK, C Version 2.4 'METAFONT output 1994.08.01:1137' 13208 bytes packed to 6008 bytes. TeX output: This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141 (format=plain 93.7.28) 1 AUG 1994 11:39 **tugboat2 (tugboat2.tex (aplstyle.tex ! Font \apl=cmapl10 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. <to be read again> \def l.17 \def \ifundefined#1{\expandafter\ifx\csname#1\endcsname\relax} ? ! Emergency stop. <to be read again> \def l.17 \def \ifundefined#1{\expandafter\ifx\csname#1\endcsname\relax} End of file on the terminal! No pages of output. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: desrobd@il.us.swissbank.com (David DesRobert) Subject: Inverting text display (to white text w/ black back) Message-ID: <1994Aug1.175304.19546@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 17:53:04 GMT Does anyone know of a way to change the defaults of the NeXTstep system so that the text of applications like Terminal and Mail will appear white with a black background instead of the reverse? I would really appreciate it. I am having trouble reading off the screen for long periods of time and am willing to try anything to remedy this. Thanks desrobd@il.us.swissbank.com
From: drquarrie@lbl.gov (David R. Quarrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Bug with C++ enums ? Date: 1 Aug 1994 18:18:50 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <40481@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Keywords: C++, enum When I try to compile the following C++ program (incomplete, but sufficient to show the problem), I get an error: vader> cc -o main.o -c main.cc main.cc:21: class-local enum declaration `AType' is not in scope here Since AType has been used prior to this (in the Constructor and Accessor) I'm somewhat bemused. Is this a "feature" of the C++ compiler in NEXTSTEP 3.2? Am I being stupid (quite possible)? Should I try to get a later version of gnu c++ from the archives? If so, what's the latest version - 2.5.8? David --------------------------------------------------------------------- David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Lab MS 50B-3238 (NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov Berkeley, CA 94720 DECnet : lbl::drquarrie Tel: (510) 486-4868 //-------------------------------- start here ------------------- class A { public: enum AType { A_type1, A_type2 }; }; class B { public: // Constructor(s) B(); B(A* a ); B(A::AType at); // Data Accessors A* value(); A::AType type(); private: // Data A* pd_value; // A data member of type A A::AType pd_type; // A data member of type AType }; int main() { } //-------------------------------- end here -------------------
From: danno@maui.com (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Extreme OmniWeb unpleasantness Date: 1 Aug 1994 18:35:44 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC) Message-ID: <31jfa0$s52@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com> References: <31649s$81i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Cecil Bloch writes > I have been having problems with OmniWeb that defy all attempts at > correction. This concerns in-line images and YES! I _have_ followed the > advice of earlier posts regarding its correct installation > (OmniImageFiler.services in ~/Library/Services, OmniImage -or- ImageViewer > in -/Apps but not both, etc.etc., followed by logging out and in again, as > well as rebooting just to be sure). Having recently upgraded to 3.2, I had a similar problem... I had some luck by going to my ~/.NeXT directory and removing the 'suffixes3_0.wmd' file! This seems to confuse my systems image of who does what based on the file suffix. I'm now getting a funky error : Application: Could not load from file /tmp/ttt.jpg OmniImage: Could not load from file /tmp/ttt.jpg But inline images work... Email me if you have any luck... --danno@maui.com I have also tried all reasonable > variants as suggested, all alternative locations. Nothing works -- no > in-line images. What is even stranger is that a colleague of mine > installed it totally differently and it worked perfectly well on her > machine: OmniImage in the home directory (not ~/Apps), ImageViewer in > ~/Apps, and _NO_ OmniImageFiler.services anywhere. It works on her machine > even though it is seemingly at odds with all the advice given on this > newsgroup. So I tried the identical set up on my machine, using copies of > her files in case something had happened to mine, and of course it did > _NOT_ work... I have done the obvious things like checking protections, > but the mystery remains -- no in-line html images. There are _NO_ console > messages at all, no attention panels indicating an error, nothing.... > Any ideas?
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD Player.app & Apple CD 150 Date: 1 Aug 1994 21:49:50 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <31jqlu$8r0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Does CD Player.app work with an Apple CD 150? I get no response when I start the app, insert the CD and click on the buttons. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: dsinn@coho.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC Date: 1 Aug 1994 22:20:01 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <31jseh$luv@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1994Jul29.152443.29355@investor.pgh.pa.us> Bob Peirce #305 (rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us) wrote: : Is there a demo version of SoftPC anywhere that I could try on an actual : program. There is really only one program I need to run and if it does : not work I won't need the software. I too would be interested in locating it. I have a NeXTstation with 3.0 OS, and do not have access to the newer distributions of OS, so I cannont grab it off of them. David Sinn dsinn@halcyon.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY -- NeXTstation pausing for no reason... Date: 1 Aug 1994 22:33:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31jt8c$k1v@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <31ipps$6ah@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> millard@amethyst.ces.cwru.edu (John Millard) writes: > Anyway, it turns out that the program Opener3.1.3a was at fault > -- evidently, this program mails a short letter to an address at > MIT, presumably to the original author or to whomever maintains > the program. If any mention of this mailing was included in the > documentation, then I missed it by a mile -- but I don't remember > coming across anything that said it was going to mail something > somewhere. I think it's mentioned somewhere in the help (or at least it used to be, a long time ago). Of course, by the time you *get* to that, the application has already sent the message. > But just out of curiosity -- should I be concerned about a program > which decides it wants to mail something somewhere without my > knowledge? When I tripped over this in the Opener source code (looking for some other bugs), I was pretty irritated over it. The idea of what they were interested in sounds nice, and if you look at the source code it's doing something fairly benign, but it still bugged the hell out of me. I was actually kinda surprised just how irritated I was about it. For awhile after that, Opener had a little dialog that would pop up asking about sending email. I guess that got lost along the way. Also irritating. It's getting so I'm tempted to always recompile Opener, just to remove that stupid email part. > Once again, if I missed a note in the docs that mentioned any > test mailings, I'm sorry -- but I tend to get nervous, be it > right or wrong, when programs mail stuff to other sites without > my knowledge -- especially when the program is owned by root.wheel. Uh, why do you have Opener owned by root.wheel? I don't think there's any need for it to be. I have it installed as gad.other (though of course, that gives it access to quite a lot on my machine, so your point still holds). And even if it is owned by root.wheel, that doesn't mean much unless it's also setuid or setgid (or, of course, if you're running it from root). > Well, thank you all again for your advice! And if anyone has any > ideas on that last paragraph, please mail me at the address listed > below... > > John L. Millard > millard@alpha.ces.cwru.edu -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,fdn.comp.sys.next From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: How to cancel a post from NG Message-ID: <1994Aug1.205628.15737@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:56:28 GMT When I try to cancel a post I get an error panel with: Cancel failed: /usr/local/lib/news/inews: cannot shift /usr/local/lib/news/inews: article in /Net/serveur/Users_1Go/fabien/dead.article Any clues Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: tstark@clark.net (Tim Stark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep OS information Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:02:46 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <31k5vm$jr8@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All: Today I called Next, Inc for more information about NeXTStep OS since I have seen reviews at my PC Magazine. I was so impressive about KuDOS and its GUI. I quoted their price for User Base and Applications Development versions. It costs $795 for user base and costs $2995 for application development. What's up about so expensive application development?!! Without application development version, can I still get GCC compiler for User base version? I am looking for lower prices with user base and application development versions. Does anyone have any sales information? If so, I will appericate that. -- Tim Stark -- Timothy Stark Inet: tstark@clark.net 6130 Edsall Rd. #301 TDD: (703)212-9731 FAX: (703)212-7598 Alexandria, Va. 22304-5859 Voice: Via VA Relay Center (800)828-1140 "God bless you! - My friend, Washington DC. - The Most Deaf Population City!"
From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: LaserJet 4 on Blackhardware Date: 2 Aug 1994 00:19:06 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <31k3dq$nb4@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Yesterday I posted about using the printer port on Black Hardware. Well I went and bought a 4meg upgrade for my LaserJet4. I now have 6megs RAM, and Postscript Simm installed. I have used PrintManager.app to install a new printer on my NeXTstation Color. I set it to the following configuration: Access: Private Communications: Serial Port: A Baud Rate: 19200 Hardware Handshaking: On Type: HP LaserJet4 PostScript 600DPI I have set the printers configuration to match the NeXT's. When I try the test nothing happens. It shows up in the printer queue, but nothing seems to go to the printer. This also occurs if I try to print form Edit.app and even lpr, the lpd is running and the job enters in lpq. I tryed connecting the serial cable to my modem and then printing. The RD and SD lights blinked so it would seem to be recieving data. I know the serial port is good, because I use it for the modem(only one serial cable at the moment). And becuase of my test it would seem the NeXT tries to print. The printer is online and the Status Screen reads Ready. It never evens seems to get any data. Does anyone have a guess as to what is going on with my machine? Anyone using the same setup as I am? Any help would be much appreciated. I have talked to NeXT Support since I wrote this original post. I now know that I need a null-modem cable(so they say) to connect to a printer. I have a null modem and placed it betwen the NeXTstation and the printer, however I can only get it to print with Xon/Xoff, not hardware handshaking. This makes it print very slowly. I have a modem cable I purchased from Paradigm shift, that works on NeXTstations, and I use for my modem with Hardware handshaking, if I use the null-modem i should be able to use hardware handshaking with the printer. I also used the conitnue on the printer to print an error message to see what is happening. When I try to print the PrintManager.app test page with Hardware Handshaking this is the error I get: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND:- STACK: /currentpackingerprint Any clues from LaserJet4 users out there. Thanks. Jonathan Gardner jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
From: gregan@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AKCL on NeXTSTEP 3.2 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:36:57 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST [telnet ids.net] Distribution: world Message-ID: <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> Has anyone been able to get AKCL (Austin Kyoto Common Lisp) to work with NeXTSTEP 3.2? I found some information on this from the FAQ's, which directed me to rascal.ics.utexas.edu to find a package for building AKCL for the NeXT. Unfortunately, what I have only seems to work for 2.0. If anyone has had experience with this package for 3.0, please let me know Greg Arzoomanian gregan@ids.net
From: willr@crl.com (Todd Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Searching for: SmartUPS interface for NS/I Date: 1 Aug 1994 22:14:38 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <31kknu$kfn@crl2.crl.com> Keywords: ups I am wondering if there is a software package available that does the load tests and auto shutdowns with an APC SmartUPS. I know that APC sells powerchute for various systems, but NS/I isn't one of them. Please email, I'll post with summaries. Todd Rodgers, willr@crl.com -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Young Simba: "Oh well, hakuna matata! <CHOMP> Slimy ... yet satisfying." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Configuration Query: OmniWeb unable to connect to remote host Date: 2 Aug 94 14:48:50 Organization: University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.94Aug2144850@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> I have installed OmniWeb on a networked slab and identified the local news host in the misc preferences, but keep getting a `unable to connect to remote host' message. Does the news host need to be mounted on the local machine, or is there some other configuration parameter that must be tweaked to access remote hosts? Thanks in advance for any leads (preferably via email), -Jim ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009 -- ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 07:44:02 GMT I've been running NeXTSTEP FIP for about seven-or-so months now, and I've always been struck by how much slower it performs than SunOS or most other UNIX implementations. I just read an old issue of Byte magazine on 32-bit operating systems in which they benchmark 32-bit operating systems. NeXTSTEP benchmarked as many orders of magnitude slower than OS/2, Windows, NT, SCO UNIX, and Univel UNIX. What is worse, as the number of concurrent processes increases, NeXTSTEP got worse, not better. At around eight concurrent processes, NeXT was something like four times slower than the other operating systems. Overall, this seems to agree with my subjective observations. For me, at around six processes, NeXT becomes pretty sluggish. I have a 32 meg color system running an ATI Ultra Pro and '486DX-33. I do virtually no disk swapping because of the low number of processes that I run combined with the large amount of memory. It just plain runs slow. My question is whether this is due to something inherent in Display Postscript or some other part of the NeXT internal architecture. Or has NeXT just not had the resources available to optimize the performance of the OS? I hate to think that I would have to convert over to Univel or Linux, but there are really days when I start to question whether NeXTSTEP is very useable. I really shouldn't have to run a Pentium to get '486-level performance.... Are there tips to making NeXTSTEP run faster? Is the performance likely to improve by several orders of magnitude in the next release? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep OS information Date: 2 Aug 1994 09:25:08 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <31l3dk$fnq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <31k5vm$jr8@clarknet.clark.net> In article <31k5vm$jr8@clarknet.clark.net> tstark@clark.net (Tim Stark) writes: > I am looking for lower prices with user base and application development > versions. Does anyone have any sales information? If so, I will appericate > that. Buy it off the net. Several months ago, the best price I could get for NextStep 3.2 Motorolla User and Developer, with a commercial license, was $450. I also know that there were offers for new (Motorolla or Intel) 3.2 User+Developer just before NextStep Expo, either by NeXT or by companies buying and reselling NeXT's discounted software, for $900 to $1000. -- Todd
From: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: 1 Aug 1994 11:13:06 +0200 Organization: my private site Message-ID: <AXEL.94Aug1111305@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:27:30 GMT In article <1994Jul29.092730.749@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: In article <ROBERT.94Jul29084037@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > >I propose that Mail.app have optional compression when sending >messages ... particuarly attatchments. I've just received some demo >versions of software packages and because .pkg's are compressed either >with .Z or .gz it effectively doubles their size when compressed again >through NeXTMail. This means that a possible 4 MEG turned into 7 >MEG. That for me is considerable. I believe NeXTMAIL is a powerful >medium for distributing apps for vendors to exploit however, it would be >nice to be able to reduce size of the messages whereever possible. > >Thoughts? It's not the compression, it's the uuencoding that's mainly responsible for the increase in size. And you need that. Yes, but there are much better solutions than uuencode/uudecode. Axel -- aseibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXTmail welcome) seiberta@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (please no NeXTmail here!) You are young only once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AKCL on NeXTSTEP 3.2 Date: 2 Aug 1994 10:17:34 GMT Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede Distribution: world Message-ID: <31l6fu$1mg@eirah.ping.de> References: <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> In article <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> gregan@ids.net writes: > Has anyone been able to get AKCL (Austin Kyoto Common Lisp) to > work with NeXTSTEP 3.2?> Greg Arzoomanian > gregan@ids.net I few days ago this news was posted here: Maybe it helps :-) Torsten In article <31b0hl$nf9@mustang.alleg.edu> jheidelo@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) writes: > Has anyone been successful in compiling an Intel version of a LISP for > NS/FIP? Any help would be greatly appreciated! akcl, now apparently known as Gnu CL, works -- I posted a long note about this a while ago. I'll append the previous message. As I explained then, this is oriented toward our software, so you may want to make the obvious changes. We started to make this more or less automatic, but are held up for the moment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Modify files (included below) h/NeXT.h h/NeXT.defs c/NeXTunixsave.c c/NeXTunixfasl.c Run add-defs NeXT /Local/Lisp/kcl make -f Smakefile make make install (last line is optional -- see akcl's README) This will die with a complaint about -lc -- there are two references in unixport/makefile (generated in the run of make above) -- delete the -lc occurrences, and fire up make again. Here are the current versions of the files mentioned above (or at least the changed portions) -- the resultant akcl is known to work with CMN/CM/CLM but does not include any MIDI stuff yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ h/NeXT.defs # # For NeXT Operating system 3. # LBINDIR=/Local/Unix/bin OFLAG= -O LIBS= -u _SNDReadSoundfile -u _SNDStartPlaying -u _SNDWait -u _SNDFree -u _SNDStop -u _SNDSetHost -u _SNDAcquire -u _snddriver_get_device_parms -u _SNDRelease -u _snddriver_set_device_parms -u _snddriver_get_volume -u _snddriver_set_volume -u _snddriver_set_ramp -u _valloc -u _mutex_try_lock -u _mutex_wait_lock -u _cthread_detach -u _port_set_allocate -u _port_set_add -u _port_set_deallocate -u _name_server_port -u _mach_error_string -u _port_allocate -u _port_deallocate -u _mig_get_reply_port -u _msg_rpc -u _msg_send -u _mig_dealloc_reply_port -u _sscanf -lsys_s -lm LIBC= ODIR_DEBUG= -g CC= cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -I$(AKCLDIR)/o -fwritable-strings # The option -seglinkedit is specified so that rld_load() can be used. LDCC= ld -X -seglinkedit -segprot __TEXT rwx rwx /lib/crt0.o # bcmp(), bcopy(), and bzero() are already included in the NeXT C library. LIBFILES= CFLAGS = -c $(DEFS) -I../h MAIN = ../o/main.o INITFORM=(setq compiler::*cc* "cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -fwritable-strings") MPFILES=$(MPDIR)/mpi.o $(MPDIR)/libmport.a # Use symbolic links SYMB=-s # the make to use for saved_kcp the profiler. KCP=kcp-next ------------------------------------------------------------------------ h/NeXT.h #ifndef NeXT #define NeXT #endif #include "bsd.h" #undef SFASL #undef HAVE_AOUT #define PAGEWIDTH 12 /* The following value determines the running process size. */ #define BIG_HEAP_SIZE 0x2000000 #undef MAXPAGE #define MAXPAGE (2*16384) #undef SET_REAL_MAXPAGE #define SET_REAL_MAXPAGE \ { extern int mach_maplimit; sbrk(0); real_maxpage = mach_maplimit/PAGESIZE; } #define sbrk my_sbrk #define ADDITIONAL_FEATURES \ ADD_FEATURE("MACH"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NeXT"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NEXT"); \ ADD_FEATURE("NEXT-3.0"); \ ADD_FEATURE("I386"); \ ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE"); \ ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE-ENV-SIZE") #define CLEAR_CACHE #define UNIXSAVE "NeXTunixsave.c" #define UNIXFASL "NeXTunixfasl.c" #define SEEK_TO_END_OFILE seek_to_end_ofile #define I386 #define IEEEFLOAT /* we can use the system malloc without interference with lisp storage allocation */ #define DONT_NEED_MALLOC #ifdef IN_MAIN #include <fcntl.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #endif char *find_executable(); #define LITTLE_ENDIAN /* Begin for cmpinclude */ #define HAVE_ALLOCA #ifdef __GNUC__ #undef __BUILTIN_VA_ARG_INCR #endif /* End for cmpinclude */ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ c/NeXTunixfasl.c change the includes from #include <mach.h> #include <sys/loader.h> #include <rld.h> to #include <mach/mach.h> #include <mach-o/loader.h> #include <mach-o/rld.h> Then delete both references to asm("trap #2") -- change asm("trap #2"); /* clear cache */ call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data); to: call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data); (occurs twice). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ c/NeXTunixsave.c change the includes from: #include <mach.h> #include <sys/loader.h> to: #include <mach/mach.h> #include <mach-o/loader.h> and if you have an old version of akcl, make sure the getsectbyname declaration is changed from: extern struct section *getsectbyname(char *, char *); to: extern const struct section *getsectbyname( const char *segname, const char *sectname); ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please let me know if this is incomplete or inaccurate. (bil@ccrma.stanford.edu)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 09:01:06 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wiDYCGq00iV1Q1E5MW@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <AXEL.94Aug1111305@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 1-Aug-94 Re: Mail.app suggestion (op.. by Axel Seibert@tumbolia.pp > Yes, but there are much better solutions than uuencode/uudecode. Which are? (Note that you *must* assume that the mail machines email/netnews postings go through on the net are not 8-bit clean.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need you 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep OS information Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 09:50:38 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iDYwiO00iV1Q1ECtA@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <31k5vm$jr8@clarknet.clark.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Aug-94 NeXTStep OS information by Tim Stark@clark.net > Today I called Next, Inc for more information about NeXTStep OS since > I have seen reviews at my PC Magazine. I was so impressive about > KuDOS and its GUI. I quoted their price for User Base and Applications > Development versions. It costs $795 for user base and costs $2995 for > application development. What's up about so expensive application > development?!! The average cost to a business for a programmer is on the order of $80,000 per year when you include salary, benefits, support, office space, and so forth. Assuming a programmer is 25% more efficient using NEXTSTEP (and that's probably a conservative assumption), it's still well worthwhile to pay $3000 rather then use a less-costly but less efficient development environment. > Without application development version, can I still get GCC compiler for > User base version? Yes, but you'll be lacking the system header files. > I am looking for lower prices with user base and application development > versions. Does anyone have any sales information? If so, I will appericate > that. Go for academic pricing if possible; you can get the User & Developer version (with a no-commercial-development clause, however!) for ~ $300; you can also try to pick up a license from third parties on the net. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need you 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AKCL on NeXTSTEP 3.2 Date: 2 Aug 1994 14:03:17 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <31ljn5$gqj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> In article <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> gregan@ids.net writes: > Has anyone been able to get AKCL (Austin Kyoto Common Lisp) to > work with NeXTSTEP 3.2? I found some information on this from > the FAQ's, which directed me to rascal.ics.utexas.edu to find > a package for building AKCL for the NeXT. Unfortunately, what > I have only seems to work for 2.0. If anyone has had experience > with this package for 3.0, please let me know > Greg Arzoomanian > gregan@ids.net On the original NeXT hardware, using the latest version of akcl (i.e. post 605 or so), I think it works as is under NS 3.2 -- I always change the LIBS statement and goof around with NeXT.defs in other ways, but I don't think you have to. In any case, I run it under 3.0 at home, and 3.2 here at work.
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Date: 2 Aug 1994 16:34:39 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <31lsiv$6oe@news.iastate.edu> References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com>, Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote: >My question is whether this is due to something inherent in Display >Postscript or some other part of the NeXT internal architecture. Or >has NeXT just not had the resources available to optimize the >performance of the OS? I hate to think that I would have to convert >over to Univel or Linux, but there are really days when I start to >question whether NeXTSTEP is very useable. I really shouldn't have >to run a Pentium to get '486-level performance.... Display Postscript is really quite fast. I didn't really notice the difference of displaying speed between OS/2 and NeXTSTEP (which I run). The overhead of NeXTSTEP is mainly due to the OBJECTS which we love. I am still a beginning in NeXTSTEP programming. Please correct me if I'm wrong. From my first project, the MineSweeper from Windows. I use 480 ButtonCell Matrix as the mine field. To initialize this mine field, it takes quite a while, about 3 seconds on Dell 450DE/2 DGX JAWS Video system. After studying for a while, I conclude that it's either the size of ButtonCell or the messaging which cause the overhead. The size of a ButtonCell is 72 byte. 480 ButtonCell = 480 * 72 = 34560 bytes = 34.56Kbytes. Doesn't seem too bad. But, sending 480 alloc and init messages seems to be the most overhead. I still don't know how to overcome this overhead, anyone has any idea? >Are there tips to making NeXTSTEP run faster? Is the performance >likely to improve by several orders of magnitude in the next >release? Tips: If performance is an issue, run Linux or something else. There is always tradeoff. I think NeXT has done a decent jobs in balancing the system. From time to time, they would change the balance, I guess. e.g., when hardware performance increase, they might be forced to slow down something which could be helped by hardware performance increase in order to optimize something else. This is likely the worst tip in the world. >:) Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: What is RedMark Message-ID: <Ctx7L0.958@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <Ctrnt6.9Ao@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 18:34:11 GMT In article <Ctrnt6.9Ao@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) writes: | In a recent post, I read something about RedMark. I seem to recall that | it is something for editting documents. | | What is it, where can I get it, how much is it, etc. | | -robert- | | -- | Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger | Office:(509)-335-4053 | Assistant Professor | FAX:(509)-335-3818 | School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | Washington State University | Pullman, WA 99164-2752 | Yes it is a software for marking things in documents like you use a red pencil to mark special things, which are most interesting to you. The first ad for Redmark origi was in the NeXTWORLD Magazine Issue Fall 1991. Price was $285 Concact Epitome, Inc. / 716 Summit Lake Court, Suite 100/Knoxville, TN 37922-3156 USA (615) 675-0910 /Fax (615) 966-2558 72677.1034@Compuserve.COM I don't know if this firm stille exists? Nice Greetings from Munich -- Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: price of NS Date: 2 Aug 1994 20:28:56 GMT Organization: Pacifier BBS, Vancouver, Wa. ((206) 693-0325) Message-ID: <31maa8$peh@news.pacifier.com> Ok, thanks to many helpful email messages about hardware compatibility, I have decided to get NextStep. I am currently a college student and wondering how much NS is with a student discount? Ballpark guesses are OK, I just need to have an estimate. Kirk Petersen kirkp@pacifier.com -- --- pacifier.com - Vancouver's Public access Internet (206) 693-0325 telnet or dial the above and type "new" at the prompt to register
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Demo of Pages anywhere? Message-ID: <1994Aug2.163359.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 21:33:59 GMT Anyone know where I might obtain a demo of Pages? I'm getting serious about purchasing a word processor/desktop publisher and want to try them out? Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Internet Mail Only
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 2 Aug 1994 22:04:13 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: [ lots of stuff about NS/FIP being slow ] Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a terminal window or login remotely, they feel pretty equal. Only major difference I can think of is that a single compile kills the Sun I/O-wise, but that might be a slow disk (I have no idea what kind of disk is in it.) Just some more things to mull over.... ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <1994Aug2.212739.26206@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 21:27:39 GMT In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: >My question is whether this is due to something inherent in Display >Postscript or some other part of the NeXT internal architecture. Or >has NeXT just not had the resources available to optimize the >performance of the OS? I hate to think that I would have to convert >over to Univel or Linux, but there are really days when I start to >question whether NeXTSTEP is very useable. I really shouldn't have >to run a Pentium to get '486-level performance.... From a UNIX point of view, I think (this is total guesswork) that these are the factors: 1) You have a PC motherboard. UNIX hardware will outperform PC hardware in the multitasking context-switching arena. 2) NEXTSTEP is not as good as other UNIXes at UNIXy stuff. Why? Likely because companies like Sun and HP have more people to throw at the I/O problem, etc., and end up with some pretty decent optimizations. NeXT's selling point is the OO thing, so they feel that they can slack off on the UNIXy stuff. In support of (1) my 90MHz PCI Pentium w/32M RAM is beaten by my 25MHz 20M RAM 68040 NeXT computer in the thread test of BenchPress.app. That was for 50 threads. 100 threads killed the Pentium (it hung) so I didn't bother going beyond that. (2) is totally subjective. I could be wrong ;-). >Are there tips to making NeXTSTEP run faster? Is the performance >likely to improve by several orders of magnitude in the next >release? Get more RAM. As for performance increasing/decreasing with new releases: it's done both. Each release has been pretty random in regards to how fast/slow it was compared to its predecessor. One thing the newer versions have going for them is the better optimization in the GNU compiler. Whether or not NeXT invokes -O4 is guesswork. I think the rule of thumb is if they ahave added a whole ton o features (as in 3.0) you can expect slower performance. If it's a maintenance release (as in 3.1 and 3.2) you can expect performance to come back somewhat. - db -- God bless those pagans. -- Homer -- Quantis never crashed -- Raymond -- Quebec pour les Quebequois -- Quebec Separatists -- Germany for the Germans -- Hitler Youth -- She tried to sit on my lap when I was standing up -- Marlowe -- Makes me want to f*** the both of you. -- Losing net.jerk assuming that I'm a female
From: Jacob Gore <jacob.gore@nwest.mccaw.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is RedMark Date: 2 Aug 1994 20:29:27 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <31mab7$8ns@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <Ctrnt6.9Ao@serval.net.wsu.edu> In article <Ctrnt6.9Ao@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) writes: > In a recent post, I read something about RedMark. I seem to recall that > it is something for editting documents. > > What is it, where can I get it, how much is it, etc. RedMark is a groupware page markup program. It allows you to place transparent sheets with markup on top of any PostScript page (or multiple pages). If several people are working on the document, you can control whose markup you see, or you can show everybody's markup at once. I use it for on-line grading of programming assignments. I love it. When we started using it in an experimental course at Colorado School of Mines, our on-line grading time dropped by a factor of 5-7. It is made by: Epitome Inc. 716 Summit Lake Court, Suite 100 Knoxville, TN 37922-3156 (sorry, I don't have the phone number handy). I'm very happy with Epitome's service and support. Jacob -- Jacob Gore Eastern New Mexico University: jacob@blackbox.enmu.edu Consulting at McCaw Cellular: jacob.gore@nwest.mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: NS 2.1 X11R5 server on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <1994Aug2.011522.13593@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 01:15:22 GMT Hi, On cs.orst.edu in the directory /pub/next/XNeXT there is a file that is claimed to be a precompiled X11R5 server for NS 2.1. The archive, however, contains no README file, nor any other infromation about its contents. Does anybody on the net know what this file is and/or where I can get more info about it? Thanks - Boyan -- Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Control: cancel <1994Jul30.203408.4880@iitmax.iit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: cancel <1994Jul30.203408.4880@iitmax.iit.edu> Message-ID: <1994Aug2.004036.20287@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center References: <1994Jul30.203408.4880@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:40:36 GMT
Control: cancel <1994Aug2.005757.18871@iitmax.iit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: cancel <1994Aug2.005757.18871@iitmax.iit.edu> Message-ID: <1994Aug2.011035.4126@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center References: <1994Aug2.005757.18871@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 01:10:35 GMT
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 2.1 X11R5 server on cs.orst.edu Date: 3 Aug 1994 03:35:53 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <31n3ap$6dl@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Aug2.011522.13593@iitmax.iit.edu> In article <1994Aug2.011522.13593@iitmax.iit.edu>, Boyan I. Boyanov <boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu> wrote: >Hi, > >On cs.orst.edu in the directory /pub/next/XNeXT there is a file that is >claimed to be a precompiled X11R5 server for NS 2.1. The archive, however, >contains no README file, nor any other infromation about its contents. >Does anybody on the net know what this file is and/or where I can get more >info about it? Looks like the server to run XNext on a machine that has NS2.1, Boyan. It's definitely not the whole distribution, just the binary for the server. Pick up the X11R5-MouseX-v2.3.tar.Z and X11R5-MouseX.README and then substitute the proper files for use on a NS2.1 system. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Demo of Pages anywhere? Date: 3 Aug 1994 04:59:36 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <31n87o$r8o@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Aug2.163359.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> In article <1994Aug2.163359.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: > Anyone know where I might obtain a demo of Pages? A free ftp'able demo version doesn't exist. Pages makes you pay about $15 and they snail mail you a demo. The excuse is that their application takes up too many MB to be conveniently ftp'able. I suppose they think everybody is networked over slow phone lines or something. Complaints about this policy may be directed to info@pages.com or to Bruce Webster, bwebster@pages.com. Overall, however, their technical support is the best of any software company I have ever dealt with. They are extremely responsive and helpful. Their application is geared toward businesses which want standardization in the appearance of their corporate documents. Individuals who want to make infinite styling variations may feel a bit limited. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BIND on NS 3.1 68K Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 00:16:18 Organization: System Technology, Inc. Message-ID: <payne440.18.0000458E@utw.com> Does anyone have any info on a program called "BIND," or something like tyhat, that is used for DNS work? I need it for my 'Cube and would like to know where it is. ALSO SEEKING 3.1 68k user. Carl Payne 801-373-4025
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Executor and JMP Date: 3 Aug 1994 01:28:02 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <31mrr2$h1s@network.ucsd.edu> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who knows if Executor will run the Mac Statistical Package JMP, which I gather is an outstanding program. I don't want to buy Executor unless I know whether or not it will run JMP on the Motorola Next machines. I would also appreciate hearing from anyone who knows of good statistical or data processing programs for the NeXT, especially if they do scientific plotting as well. Abscissa is the best plotting program I have found, but the statistical analysis and fitting methods are not easy to use and the direcitions are minimal, to say the least. I hope others will write MATLAB that they want a NS version! H. Craig passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 07:27:07 GMT devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: >In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: > Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a >SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I >use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit >on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a [...] Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those are in functionality comparable. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: Lan Manager off of NeXT network? Message-ID: <CtvI39.F8L@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:25:53 GMT folks, i know that one can use netware to hook a NeXT up to a PC-LAN - how about microsoft's lan manager? will that work? ie, can i have my happy NeXT network and run a couple of PCs which are running lan manager? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: Lan Manager off of a NeXT network? Message-ID: <CtvI8z.FDL@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:29:21 GMT folks, i know that one can run a PC-LAN which is running netware off of a NeXT network - how about microsoft's Lan Manager? is this feasible? how different is it from netware? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Need to get up-to-date info on Mux serial driver Date: 3 Aug 1994 05:15:07 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <31nn6r$dte@acmex.gatech.edu> I haven't downloaded a copy of the MUX driver since, probably, before april. I'm wondering if there's a newer version that fixes some of the problems I've been having: 1) My internal modem can go up to 57.6kbps, yet applications seem to think that they should be limited to 38.4kbps. I haven't been able to change this within the applications, so I assume it's something the driver is limiting (incorrectly). (I'm not talking about actual throughput, I'm talking about the settings for the maximum connection speed). 2) Even when I have my connections set for 38.4, if the connection goes quickly (I cat a file of more than 5 screens of dense text), the connection hangs. If I tell the application to exit (without closing the modem connection), and then restart it, the connection is fine. This particularly happens during large (greater than 3mb) file transfers. 3) I suspect this one is related to #2: anytime I try to get term to work, it hangs. I've tried everything that friends of mine using linux have done to make term work with our local servers, and things that other nextstep term users suggested. Nothing worked. Term hangs shortly after the first term utility is run, and doesn't recover. I'd really like to be able to use my internal modem, especially for SLIP/PPP or term. However, these problems (which I assume are caused bye the MUX driver) keep me from doing so. Since so much of my time is spent dialed out to remote sites, I find that inspite of how much I prefer nextstep, I end up using DOS/Windows a lot, since it's actually faster and more reliable. If anyone, especially the author, has any comments, I would greatly appreciate it. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Message-ID: <Cty6Br.A97@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <wiDYCGq00iV1Q1E5MW@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 07:04:39 GMT Axel Seibert@tumbolia.pp writes >> there are much better solutions than uuencode/uudecode. Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > Which are? (Note that you *must* assume that the mail machines > email/netnews postings go through on the net are not 8-bit clean.) atob and btoa for one available free from Adobe's file server -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: andy@tssl.demon.co.uk (Andy) Subject: Cub-X or co-Xist ? Message-ID: <Ctvqo6.1DB@tssl.demon.co.uk> Keywords: X11 NeXT Organization: Thameside Systems Limited, London. England. Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 23:31:18 GMT Anyone have any comments Cub-XWindows or co-Xist. We will be needing one of these to develop a number of X applications. Which is best? Thanks. Andy
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 3 Aug 1994 14:44:29 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <31oagd$om2@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> In article <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Willem van Schaik (schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl) wrote: :>devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: :>>In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: :>> Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a :>>SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I :>>use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit :>>on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a :>[...] :>Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess :>I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those :>are in functionality comparable. I know. I wasn't making a technology comparison, I was making a *usage* comparison. I was comparing what I use daily. This isn't a flame, I'm just saying that speed depends on what you find useful. I've used a Microvax-II for hours and haven't been frustrated by its slowness, while I've sworn mightly at an SGI Indigo2 for being sluggish. Anwyway, I'm leading us off topic. :) ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rhall@rome.engin.umich.edu (Robert Hall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: name server apps out there? Date: 3 Aug 1994 15:14:31 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <31oc8nINN50k@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Originator: rhall@rome.engin.umich.edu I am interested in information related to freeware/shareware name server apps for NeXT that might be out there, as I need a name service as part of a larger application-- I am thinking of something similiar to DCE's CDS. Robert Hall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth) Subject: Can't get a Login Message-ID: <CtytHt.52L@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 15:25:04 GMT After re-installing Next on my PC after a nasty hard disk crash I am having the following problem: The system comes up in the 'me' setup. To get a login window I hold down the left mouse key after logging out, but when I try to login in as root or another user the login window just keep reappearing. I set paswords on 'me', root and the other user. Any idea why this is happening? Thanks Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Making a TeX .TFM file from a .MF file In-Reply-To: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca's message of Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:55:43 GMT Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Aug2220836@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <Ctv5Kv.LE0@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 20:08:36 GMT In article <Ctv5Kv.LE0@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > I'm trying to create a TeX APL font from files posted to the TeX archives, > which contain a metafont file, cmapl10.mf and TeX style file, aplstyle.tex. > I've read the next tex manual, and can find no detailed instructions. > > I did find info about MakeTeXPK, and ran that, with > > MakeTeXPK cmapl10 400 400 1 > > which seemed to work (tho' I just guessed at the parameters). However, TeX > still says it can't find cmapl10.tfm, as shown below. Can anyone indicate > what the problem might be and how to fix it? > > [...] > You have to install the .tfm files where TeX can find them. The usual places are /usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm /LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm But you also may have to define the environment variable TEXFONTS ~/.profile : TEXFONTS=".:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm" ~/.cshrc : setenv TEXFONTS ".:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm" Also here is a Makefile that I once used to play around with mf. Put it in the directory where your .mf sources are and say % make xxx.300pk % make install % make clean and so on. You will need the `black.mf' and `gray.mf' to view the proofsheets; see ``The Metafont Book'', Appendix H. But that isn't necessary for installing the fonts. When you view your .dvi files with TeXview or print them with dvips, they will create the .pk files as needed. {{{---- BEGIN of Makefile ---- # Makefile # Stephan Wacker # 93-06-27 # # You can get sample proofsheets by calling # make <font>.proof <font>.proof_dvi or # make <font>.smoke <font>.smoke_dvi # where <font> is something like cmr10 or logo8. # Note that you have to give the extension .smoke_dvi which will also produce # a file <font>.smoke.dvi. # # # You may want to give a definition for SLANTFONT like # make "SLANTFONT=slant6" ... # if your font is slanted. # Use slant6 for cmsl* and slant4 for cmti*. # Where to search for (sample) input files. VPATH = $(MFINPUTS) # Where to install pk and tfm files. PKDIR = /usr/local/lib/tex/fonts/pk TFMDIR = /usr/local/lib/tex/fonts/tfm MFDIR = /usr/local/lib/mf/inputs .SUFFIXES: .100pk .300pk .mf .mf.300pk: mf "\mode:=imagen; mag:=magstep(0.0); scrollmode; input $<" < /dev/null gftopk $*.300gf .mf.100pk: -mf "\mode:=nextscreen; mag:=magstep(0.0); scrollmode; input $<" < /dev/null gftopk $*.100gf default: echo "Please specify a target." install: cp *pk $(PKDIR) cp *.tfm $(TFMDIR) cp *.mf $(MFDIR) clean: -rm *.log *gf *dvi *.proof *.smoke veryclean: clean -rm *.tfm *pk # # This section is for proofsheet samples. # .SUFFIXES: .proof_dvi .proof .mf .SUFFIXES: .smoke_dvi .smoke .mf .mf.proof: mf "\mode:=proof; mag:=magstep(0.0); scrollmode; input $<" < /dev/null mv $*.2602gf $@ .mf.smoke: mf "\mode:=smoke; mag:=magstep(0.0); scrollmode; input $<" < /dev/null mv $*.2602gf $@ .proof.proof_dvi: -rm $@ $*.proof.dvi ( echo "slantfont $(SLANTFONT)" ; echo "" ) | gftodvi $</ mv $*.dvi $@ ln $@ $*.proof.dvi .smoke.smoke_dvi: -rm $@ $*.smoke.dvi ( echo "slantfont $(SLANTFONT)" ; echo "" ) | gftodvi $</ mv $*.dvi $@ ln $@ $*.smoke.dvi }}}---- END of Makefile ---- > -- > Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca > Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca > York University > 4700 Keele Street > Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA Good Luck, Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Executor and JMP Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:52:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <31ohvl$nsi@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <31mrr2$h1s@network.ucsd.edu> In article <31mrr2$h1s@network.ucsd.edu> passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) writes: > I would appreciate hearing from anyone who knows if Executor will run > the Mac Statistical Package JMP, which I gather is an outstanding > program. I don't want to buy Executor unless I know whether or not it > will run JMP on the Motorola Next machines. Not to bash the makers of Executor, but I think you'd be a bit optimistic to expect number-crunching performance out of an emulator. Of course, I suppose it depends upon how straight code calls are handled. Why not ask ARDI (correct company?) directly? > I would also appreciate hearing from anyone who knows of good > statistical or data processing programs for the NeXT, especially if they > do scientific plotting as well. Abscissa is the best plotting program I I know that SAS exists for NS, and there's a good pd app named SciPlot (I think). -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app suggestion (optional compression!!!) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 12:54:49 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiDwjN600iV3M3uY8H@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cty6Br.A97@genoa.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Aug-94 Re: Mail.app suggestion (op.. by Alex Blakemore@cs.umd.ed > Axel Seibert@tumbolia.pp writes > >> there are much better solutions than uuencode/uudecode. > > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > > Which are? (Note that you *must* assume that the mail machines > > email/netnews postings go through on the net are not 8-bit clean.) > > atob and btoa for one > available free from Adobe's file server uuencode's 3-to-4 encoding (33% overhead) is 11% worse then btoa's 4-to-5 encoding (25% overhead). Better? Sure. "much better"? No. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need you 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <espritCtz1wt.LLM@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <31oagd$om2@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 18:26:53 GMT In article <31oagd$om2@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: >In article <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Willem van Schaik (schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl) wrote: >:>devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: > >:>>In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: > >:>> Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a >:>>SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I >:>>use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit >:>>on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a > >:>[...] > >:>Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess >:>I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those >:>are in functionality comparable. > > I know. I wasn't making a technology comparison, I was making a *usage* >comparison. Then make a *usage* comparison between vi on a NeXT and vi on a SS1. It hardly seems fair to knock NS when you are comparing dissimilar applications. Of course it would take longer to load Edit than to load vi. When you were running the 16Meg SS1, were you running Solaris 2.3 and OpenWindows? I have done no precise measurements, but in my usage, it seems like my NeXT Slab with 16 Meg was quicker than my SS1+ with 16 Meg. Disclaimer: this is not intended to reflect negatively on my employer or the code that I work on and when given the choice between a NeXT box running NeXTSTEP and a Sun box running Solaris, you should, of course, choose Solaris. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <1994Aug3.165547.24594@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:55:47 GMT In article <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: > devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: > > >In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: > > > Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a > >SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I > >use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit > >on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a > > [...] > > Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess > I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those > are in functionality comparable. Please tell me he did not origionally compare vi on the Sun to Edit on the NeXT? :-( Maybe we should consider comparing vi on the Sun to vi on the NeXT? Does that make more sense? Or maybe we should compare FrameMaker on the Sun to vi on the NeXT. Lets make things somewhat fair out there. -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 3 Aug 1994 21:26:10 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <31p21i$78f@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <31oagd$om2@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <espritCtz1wt.LLM@netcom.com> In article <espritCtz1wt.LLM@netcom.com> Alan F. Perry (esprit@netcom.com) wrote: :>Then make a *usage* comparison between vi on a NeXT and vi on a SS1. It :>hardly seems fair to knock NS when you are comparing dissimilar applications. Sorry. I was actually on the side of NS. :) I guess all I was really saying is that "speed" is very subjective. It's usefulness that counts. :>When you were running the 16Meg SS1, were you running Solaris 2.3 and :>OpenWindows? I have done no precise measurements, but in my usage, it :>seems like my NeXT Slab with 16 Meg was quicker than my SS1+ with 16 Meg. Believe it or not, it's SunOS 4.1-GFX-Rev.1. It doesn't get used much so it hasn't been upgraded (hence the lack of usefulnesss? Hmmm....) :>Disclaimer: this is not intended to reflect negatively on my employer or :>the code that I work on and when given the choice between a NeXT box running :>NeXTSTEP and a Sun box running Solaris, you should, of course, choose :>Solaris. Of course. :) ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: halstej@mary.iia.org (Jerry Halstead) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 3 Aug 1994 18:16:07 -0400 Organization: International Internet Association. Message-ID: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> Summary: searching for ADPCM compressed files I've been playing with some code I found on the net that performs audio compression, but I'm having difficulty locating any sound files that utilize these compression methods. The compressions are CCITT ADPCM. I'm starting to think that there are a number of implementations and "standards". HereÕs a short piece from one of the source files: "The files in this directory comprise ANSI-C language reference implementations of the CCITT (International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative Committee) G.711, G.721 and G.723 voice compressions." I also found reference to an IBM ADPCM in the specs for .wav files, but haven't found any of those files either nor documentation for the compression itself (which would be nice). Does anyone have experience working with this type of code and finding test files to verify it with? Or just general pointers to newsgroups/FTP sites that deal with compression and/or have compressed audio files. Thanks. halstej@iia.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Design model flexibility with Pages Message-ID: <1994Aug3.221757.22495@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 22:17:57 GMT The following is probably only of interest to people using Pages by Pages. I do not advocate that anyone try what I did, I just thought people might be interested from an academic viewpoint. I used Pages recently to put together a small document (~20 pages) with lots of lists. I really wanted to use the "April" design model, but the list styles available were not appropriate (stepped text and TOC). I came close to giving up on April and changing to the Victory design model when I decided to perform an experiment. I copied the entire April design model and named it Joe. I then removed the list styles from Joe and copied the styles from the Victory design model. After doing some minor hand editing of files (replacing "April" with "Joe ") I fired up Pages. Sure enough, I had a new design model available and the list styles seem to work just fine. I have since experimented with mixing and matching elements from different design models with varying degrees of success. I am looking forward to the release of the Design Model editor/creator program. Any news on when it will arrive? Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated P.S. On a completely different note, what do you do when you need sub-sub-headings? I have been forced to use ad-hoc techniques.
From: kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help finding kermit Date: 4 Aug 1994 00:13:24 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <31pbr4$laq@news.delphi.com> Summary: I am running a nextstation 2.0, and need to find some software I have a NeXTstation running 2.0, and I need to find a copy of kermit. Any help?
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help finding kermit Date: 4 Aug 1994 00:51:56 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <31pe3c$aib@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <31pbr4$laq@news.delphi.com> In article <31pbr4$laq@news.delphi.com>, KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM <kochab@news.delphi.com> wrote: >I have a NeXTstation running 2.0, and I need to find a copy of kermit. >Any help? > > Host ftp.cc.gatech.edu Location: /pub/next FILE -r--r--r-- 278528 Feb 28 1991 kermit -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control. finger for PGP public key
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 20:22:42 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EiE3HG600iUzQ8THkr@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <espritCtz1wt.LLM@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Aug-94 Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow,.. by Alan F. Perry@netcom.com > Disclaimer: this is not intended to reflect negatively on my employer or > the code that I work on and when given the choice between a NeXT box > running NeXTSTEP and a Sun box running Solaris, you should, of course, > choose Solaris. Do I detect bias towards ones' employer? :-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help on compiling gcc 2.6 on NS Date: 4 Aug 1994 05:08:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <31pt4f$sln@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, I was trying to compile gcc 2.6 on my 3.0 NeXTSTEP machine. I did /configure to compile for m68k NeXT. Then I tried make install but the compiling stopped. Has anyone successfully installed gcc 2.6 on NS 3? Could you pass any tips? Thanks. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NeXTmail/email : tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu DO NOT REPLY TO THIS SLIP ACCOUNT!
From: brilee@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Woo Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: modem software Date: 4 Aug 1994 06:12:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <31q0st$iv@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, I'm trying to use my modem with NeXTStep. Are there any free or cheap software available to use my modem to call BBS's and download files? If so, are they available via ftp? I'd appreicate any help.. thanks, brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Searching for: SmartUPS interface for NS/I Message-ID: <Ctzxsp.GFC@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <31kknu$kfn@crl2.crl.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 05:55:37 GMT Todd Rodgers (willr@crl.com) wrote: : I am wondering if there is a software package available that does the : load tests and auto shutdowns with an APC SmartUPS. I know that APC : sells powerchute for various systems, but NS/I isn't one of them. What you want is PowerGuardian, from BenaTong. It does UPS tests, and auto-shutdown. The shutdown process can be customized using simple scripts. Has a very nice interface. Supports SmartUPS, as well as 3 or 4 other major brands. It automatically handles notification of logged-in users that power has failed (to save their work...) Email chuck@benatong.com (Charles Bennett) for info. I've installed this program at customer sites, and it is very nice. BenaTong give exceptional customer support. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <espritCu02LC.G70@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <EiE3HG600iUzQ8THkr@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 07:39:11 GMT In article <EiE3HG600iUzQ8THkr@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Aug-94 Re: NeXTSTEP is >slow, Slow,.. by Alan F. Perry@netcom.com >> Disclaimer: this is not intended to reflect negatively on my employer or >> the code that I work on and when given the choice between a NeXT box >> running NeXTSTEP and a Sun box running Solaris, you should, of course, >> choose Solaris. > >Do I detect bias towards ones' employer? :-) > >-Chuck I figured that I didn't need to put numerous :-)'s on it. Besides, working at Sun has its advantages - the guy at the Sun booth at Expo said I would be able to get NeXTSTEP for SPARC at the Sun employee discount. Gee, I hope my boss doesn't read this group. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KERMIT AND SOUND DRIVER Message-ID: <1994Aug4.012552.27725@miavx1> From: cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Date: 4 Aug 94 01:25:52 -0500 Organization: Miami University I am having a slight problem. i just installed Nextstep 3.2 and the development pack on my 486. I was told that kermit comes standard in one of the pkgs soemwhere but I can't get it to run even from terminal. also, I have a sound blaster pro...anybody out there got a driver for it that they could send me? -Clint
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cub-X or co-Xist ? Date: 03 Aug 1994 22:20:11 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug3232011@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <Ctvqo6.1DB@tssl.demon.co.uk> To: andy@tssl.demon.co.uk (Andy) In-reply-to: andy@tssl.demon.co.uk's message of Mon, 1 Aug 1994 23:31:18 GMT <andy@tssl.demon.co.uk> writes: >Anyone have any comments Cub-XWindows or co-Xist. We will be needing >one of these to develop a number of X applications. >Which is best? >Thanks. >Andy Well given that I have mailed the people at Co-Xist about what to do to upgrade re: their "end of life" announcement and although I know people have read the message, I've not had one single reply to let me know the proceedure. I'd say go with Cub-X.. -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@xafsdb.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: HELP: cannot make X load fonts properly Message-ID: <1994Aug4.000439.11838@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Date: Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:04:39 GMT Hi, I have just updated on of the NeXTStations around here from X11R4 to X11R5 and immedialtely ran into trouble :-(. If I do a % xterm -fn courR14 & from within an xterm window, the following message appears on the screen: xterm: unable to open font "courR14", trying "fixed".... The problem is not limited to Courier, but occurs with just about any other font I try. xfd runs into similar problems: % xfd -fn courR14 Warning: Cannot convert string "courR14" to type FontStruct xfd: no font to display On the other hand xfontsel recognised all available fonts and properly displayed all typefaces that I cared to check. If, however I do 'xfontsel -fn ...' I run into trouble again: % xfontsel -fn courR14 Warning: Cannot convert string "courR14" to type FontStruct All this makes me think that font specifications such as "courR14" are not allowed in X11R5. This appears to be supported by the fact that if I type % xterm -fn '-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-*-*' the xterm opens with the correct font. I looked through the docs that come with X11R5 (all 20 Megs of them :-)) but could not find one word on the subject. Did I miss it or am I simply being stupid? Can anybody can shed some light or point me to some books that will help me resolve this issue? I would be eternally greatful and would name one of my future kids after you :-). (If I don't have anymore kids I'll rename the one I have after you :-)). Thanks - Boyan -- Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pinnacle Research Inc. contact wanted Message-ID: <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 4 Aug 94 15:33:05 +0100 Keywords: Pinnacle, VWall Distribution: world Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Hi, do anybody know, what the hell is going on with Pinnacle? We have bought a program VWall from them and were running into problems during installation. But, we can't contact them by no way (neither fax, nor phone, nor email). The phone number they provide is no longer in service. Did they went bankrupt??? So, thanks in advance for any hint. These are my data of Pinnacle Pinnacle Research, Inc. 602-327-8949 /* no longer in service */ 602-299-9133 Fax /* valid number, but no reaction */ info@pri.com /* no reaction */ =============================================================================== Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM ===============================================================================
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to print when no WindowServer is running? Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:17:49 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <31bv6d$9an@anduin.subculture> Keywords: print I had to disable the Window server (in 3.2 loginwindow.app tries to load the Audio_reloc and without Monitor this produces errors) but now i can't print anymore. Is there another way? - Urs -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: adelo@cimsi (Raffaello GIULIETTI) Subject: PhotoCD Message-ID: <Cu0Lxz.1AL@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 14:37:09 GMT What CD-ROM drives are compatible with NEXTSTEP and PhotoAlbum.app I'm not able to read a PhotoCD with a standard CD-ROM drive. Is the problem in the HW or in some SW drive?
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 4 Aug 1994 18:23:41 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <31rbnd$897@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Willem van Schaik (schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl) wrote: : devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: : >In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote: : > Well, I've never used NS/FIP, but I have an '040 cube with 16Mb RAM and a : >SPARCstation 1, also with 16Mb RAM, sitting beside each other on my desk. I : >use the cube because I need NS for what I do. It takes longer to load Edit : >on the cube than to load vi on the Sun, but when I do plain Unix stuff in a : [...] : Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess : I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those : are in functionality comparable. I've used both of these on Suns and Nexts. Next's Edit is far superior and much faster than 'textedit', which I find is useless. On our suns textedit takes about as much time to start up as Emacs 19. Emacs 18 was alot faster still. : Willem : -- : W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: price of NS Message-ID: <CtztL6.FJx@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <31maa8$peh@news.pacifier.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 04:24:42 GMT Kirk Petersen (kirkp@pacifier.com) wrote: : Ok, thanks to many helpful email messages about hardware : compatibility, I have decided to get NextStep. I am currently a : college student and wondering how much NS is with a student discount? : Ballpark guesses are OK, I just need to have an estimate. So what are you going to run it on, Kirk? I have only seen it advertised by Programmer's Provandage for $579. I'm inclined to seek a local retailer in case I need some initial hand holding. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for OS/2, Linux, and NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with XANTHUS CRAFTMAN 2.0 Date: 4 Aug 1994 16:35:45 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <31rjf1$j2u@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I am looking for some users who have used Craftman from Xanthus is Sweden to develop application on NextStep. I am new to the program and since the documentation is pretty poor, I have some problems I can't solve at this point. I would love to correspond with people who have significant application dev exp. with the tool. The main question is about scoping rules and object replication. I also have some problems with object archiving and unarchiving. ================================================================ Q#1: What is local ? what is global ? Are the arguments passed by value or by reference ? In a message, if i do the following: define method blah(arg1) in x as astring:="aaa" the_program:my_message(astring) return self end define (a) What is communicated to the my_message method ? astring or a copy of the string namely a new string with value "aaa" (b) What happen if astring is global and I assign a local var to it like loc:= astring Does loc gets a copy of the string or does it just reference the string address? ============================================================== Q#2: If I do a collection duplication which reference objects also referenced by global variables what happens to the new collection ? Is it free from any other variable reference? (Here I mean the replicated objects inside the collection) ============================================================= Q#3: This is probably related to some reference links in objects that I manipulate but here is the problem I have: I can archive objects to the disk and unarchive them as I perform some work in the program (run time). But if I quit the particular program I archived the objects with, then upon reloading the objects contain garbage. All the properties have corrupted contents and type. Any comments on that ? I appreciate any help I could get. Thanks! Jean-Marc DeBaud debaud@cc.gatech.edu Tel/Fax:(1) 404 352 1017
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: modem software Message-ID: <1994Aug4.211016.8050@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <31q0st$iv@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 21:10:16 GMT brilee@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Woo Lee) writes: >Hi, >I'm trying to use my modem with NeXTStep. Are there any free or cheap >software available to use my modem to call BBS's and download files? >If so, are they available via ftp? >I'd appreicate any help.. thanks, >brian Kermit is a good choice. You must run it in a Terminal window. You will find it in many places, but I got my copy from purdue. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: elitman@proxima.com () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Searching for: SmartUPS interface for NS/I Date: 4 Aug 1994 20:30:46 GMT Organization: Proxima, Inc. Message-ID: <31rj5m$ab5@hecate.umd.edu> References: <31kknu$kfn@crl2.crl.com> <Ctzxsp.GFC@cunews.carleton.ca> Chris Saldanha (csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca) wrote: > Todd Rodgers (willr@crl.com) wrote: > : I am wondering if there is a software package available that does the > : load tests and auto shutdowns with an APC SmartUPS. I know that APC > : sells powerchute for various systems, but NS/I isn't one of them. > What you want is PowerGuardian, from BenaTong. It does UPS tests, and > auto-shutdown. The shutdown process can be customized using simple A more expensive yet often attractive solution is to purchase the SNMP adaptor and control the UPS with your network managment package. I think it goes for about $800. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: willr@crl.com (Todd Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Searching for: SmartUPS interface for NS/I Date: 4 Aug 1994 15:00:32 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <31roe0$cqd@crl2.crl.com> References: <31kknu$kfn@crl2.crl.com> <Ctzxsp.GFC@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >Todd Rodgers (willr@crl.com) wrote: >: I am wondering if there is a software package available that does the >: load tests and auto shutdowns with an APC SmartUPS. I know that APC >: sells powerchute for various systems, but NS/I isn't one of them. >What you want is PowerGuardian, from BenaTong. It does UPS tests, and >auto-shutdown. The shutdown process can be customized using simple >scripts. Has a very nice interface. Supports SmartUPS, as well as 3 or 4 >other major brands. It automatically handles notification of logged-in >users that power has failed (to save their work...) >Email chuck@benatong.com (Charles Bennett) for info. I've installed this >program at customer sites, and it is very nice. BenaTong give exceptional >customer support. I received this note, and several others just like it, as well as direct mail from chuck@benatong.com. I'd say this is the right answer for anyone else with a similar question. Enjoy, and thank you folks for helping me. Todd Rodgers, willr@crl.com -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Young Simba: "Oh well, hakuna matata! <CHOMP> Slimy ... yet satisfying." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: kennedy@b0ru01.fnal.gov (Robert Daniel Kennedy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE: Help compiling gcc 2.6.0 under NS 3 Date: 4 Aug 1994 20:41:04 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31rjp0$pu5@fnnews.fnal.gov> Hello, I posted on csn.programmer a list of problems I encountered after I built gcc 2.6.0 under NS3. First, it appears that the correct configuration is intended to be m68k-next-ns3 (for m68k machines) for the future. Libg++ already requires this. Second, you have to do several intermdiate operations before "make install"... at least in my experience. The info files describe this in detail (info 5 was it?). In OUTLINE form, something like: configure m68k-next-ns3 make LANGUAGES=c <go eat lunch, it will take a while> make stage1 make .... (see info 5... CC and CFLAGS are set to stage1 area) make stage2 make .... (see info 5... CC and CFLAGS are set to stage2 area) make compare su root make install make install-collect2 make install-libobjc exit will do it. BUT NOTE THAT THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS WITH THE COMPILER AFTER YOU BUILD IT. I have had difficulties with gcc 2.6.0 under NS3 that appear to not be there for NS2 (where someone actually appears to be supporting gcc, oddly enough). Anyway, this should be close enough to help find the appropriate install instructions in the gcc.info files. By the way, I had no such serious problems with gcc 2.5.8 under m68k NS3. Rob Kennedy Rutgers/CDF/FNAL
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: price of NS Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:40:17 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <31s1ph$l87@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <31maa8$peh@news.pacifier.com> In article <31maa8$peh@news.pacifier.com> kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen) writes: > I am currently a > college student and wondering how much NS is with a student discount? $299 -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help finding kermit Date: 5 Aug 1994 01:45:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <31s5ke$r0c@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <31pe3c$aib@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <31pe3c$aib@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > In article <31pbr4$laq@news.delphi.com>, > KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM <kochab@news.delphi.com> wrote: > >I have a NeXTstation running 2.0, and I need to find a copy of kermit. > >Any help? > > > > > Host ftp.cc.gatech.edu > Location: /pub/next > FILE -r--r--r-- 278528 Feb 28 1991 kermit I'd avoid this kermit because of its age and small sized which suggest that it's pre-kermit 5A. kermit 5A is much improved over previous kermits, so get the current one from kermit's home: watsun.cc.columbia.edu. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: SoftPC/Motorola + ADB Message-ID: <Cu1DH6.EED@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 00:31:53 GMT What version of SoftPC for Motorola do I need to have to make the software work with an ADB keyboard? Was there a later version than 2.05 for Motorola? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Date: 4 Aug 1994 21:22:26 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <31rim2$ca@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <31mfst$2n9@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <1994Aug3.072707.9950@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <31oagd$om2@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <espritCtz1wt.LLM@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: >>:>Comparing Edit on NeXT with vi on Sun is IMHO rubbish (but I must confess >>:>I'm a vi-hater). Why not compare Edit on NeXT with textedit on Sun. Those >>:>are in functionality comparable. >> >> I know. I wasn't making a technology comparison, I was making a *usage* >>comparison. >Then make a *usage* comparison between vi on a NeXT and vi on a SS1. It >hardly seems fair to knock NS when you are comparing dissimilar applications. >Of course it would take longer to load Edit than to load vi. Hmm... compare loading Edit.app on NS and Edit.app on Solaris!! :-))) You don't have Edit.app on Solaris? Poor chap... -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Control: cancel <1994Aug4.000439.11838@iitmax.iit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@xafsdb.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: cancel <1994Aug4.000439.11838@iitmax.iit.edu> Message-ID: <1994Aug4.190300.19305@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center References: <1994Aug4.000439.11838@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 94 19:03:00 GMT
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul R. Tognato-Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: (VWall) Re: Pinnacle Research Inc. contact wanted Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:35:29 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <31tinh$8m7@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> Howdy, In article <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) writes: > Hi, > do anybody kno w, what the hell is going on with Pinnacle? We have bought > a program VWall from them and were running into problems during > installation. But, we can't contact them by no way (neither fax, nor > phone, nor email). The phone number they provide is no longer in service. Pinnacle is no longer involved with VWall. Any questions or requests for information regarding VWall should be sent directly to me at this address. Thanks, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: SoftPC for m68k...performance Message-ID: <1994Aug5.134538.14633@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:45:38 GMT Anyone have an estimate of performance of SoftPC/Windows on NeXT hardware? Windows as fast as 16Mhz 386sx? Other considerations? David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: SoftPC 2.0 upgrade (NeXT hardware) Message-ID: <1994Aug5.134850.14694@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:48:50 GMT Just called Insignia. The upgrade cost is $199 + 10 s/h david.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI tape - does it work ? Date: 5 Aug 1994 16:32:53 GMT Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK Message-ID: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk> I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive. I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them. All help much appreciated... -pete.
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: f2c or gcc problems Message-ID: <2924@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 5 Aug 94 17:06:34 GMT Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). I hope somebaody knows a workaround for two irritating little problems I run into with f2c and the NeXT (3.2) C compiler. Both only occur when turning on debugging info (-g). This causes line number info to be propagated, sometimes like #line 1 "aap.f" #include "f2c.h" static integer c__1 = 1; MAIN__() { static doublereal pk; #line 1 "aap.f" do_lio(&c__1, &c__1, (char *)&pk, ( #line 2 "aap.f" ftnlen)sizeof(doublereal)); } which the C compiler does not grok. Not being a C wizzard, does anybody know whether this is legal, and how to hack around it? The second problem occurs only in very particular circumstances; I paired it down to the following Fortran program: subroutine ffdif4(xpi,ier) implicit none integer ier DOUBLE PRECISION xpi(13),xmax logical lwarn if ( xpi(11).eq.0 ) then xpi(11) = xpi(5)+xpi(6)+xpi(7)+xpi(8)-xpi(9)-xpi(10) if ( lwarn ) then xmax = max(abs(xpi(5)),abs(xpi(6)),abs(xpi(7)), + abs(xpi(8)),abs(xpi(9)),abs(xpi(10))) endif endif end Which gives rise to a C program which gives cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp-precomp got fatal signal 11 (Intermediate C code available on request). Again, anybody have a clue what is going on, and, more importantly, how to avoid it? Thanks 1.D6, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh t19@nikhef.nl, gj@csun.psi.ch
From: hfreese@ins.infonet.net (Harvey Freese) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.software Subject: NeXTMail MIME and the Macintosh Date: 5 Aug 1994 22:48:45 GMT Organization: Freese-Notis Weather Distribution: world Message-ID: <hfreese-050894183358@s098.infonet.net> If anyone out there has some constructive suggestions, after looking and searching FAQ's etc. a clear answer has not been forthcoming. The question is, how to send e-mail to a NeXT user with binary attachments? What is the best way to get this done, MIME? Or is there a NeXTMail compatible mailer program that runs on the Mac or even Unix to make Internet e-mail compatible messages to the NeXT? Are there any MIME compatible mailers that run on the NeXT? NeXT says that 3.3 of NeXTStep will have MIME compatibility, that is in November and something is needed ASAP, commercial, shareware, PD for running on a NeXT is fine... where to get it? Eloquent software supposedly has a package to do MIME on the NeXT, any contact information like phone number or fax phone number available? Future thanks for all those great answers... Please e-mail replies to: cnotis@ins.infonet.net
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <Aug.6.00.22.00.1994.8564@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 6 Aug 94 04:22:00 GMT References: <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com> <1994Aug2.212739.26206@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: >BenchPress.app. That was for 50 threads. 100 threads killed Can anyone inform me as to where I might be able to find BenchPress.app. Ive tried searching for it on Archie, but I get nothing. Anyway, It seems like its a pretty neet app... Thanks, Later, John
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Good scanning software ?? Date: 6 Aug 1994 02:07:51 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <31v9bn$2l7@panix2.panix.com> Any ideas ? I am looking for the best, cheapest scanning software for NS/fip 3.2, send all ideas to me here. --thanks, RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@xafsdb.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: Re: Help on compiling gcc 2.6 on NS Message-ID: <1994Aug5.212340.18309@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology References: <31pt4f$sln@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:23:40 GMT In article <31pt4f$sln@agate.berkeley.edu>, tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes: |> Hi, |> I was trying to compile gcc 2.6 on my 3.0 NeXTSTEP machine. I did |> /configure to compile for m68k NeXT. Then I tried make install but the |> compiling stopped. Has anyone successfully installed gcc 2.6 on NS 3? Could |> you pass any tips? Thanks. |> You need to be logged in as root to do the instllation or at least be the owner of /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/bin. Either log in as root or chown these two dirs if the former makes you nervous. BTW, has anybody successfully compiled C++ code with GCC 2.6.0 and NS 2.x? I've been struggling with this for a couple of weeks now and can't seem to find a solution. Everything seems to go smooth at compile time, but when I try to compile *any* C++ code, no matter how stupid it is, the compiler bombs out complaining about "volatile constructors". Here is a sample: ----------begin snip.C------------ struct X{ int i; }; --------- end snip.C-------------- % g++ -c snip.C snip.C:3: warning: duplicate `volatile' snip.C:3: constructors cannot be declared `volatile' snip.C:3: warning: duplicate `volatile' snip.C:3: constructors cannot be declared `volatile' snip.C:3: warning: duplicate `volatile' snip.C:3: confused by earlier errors, bailing out Anybody knows what is going on? Email or post. Thanks - Boyan -- Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Where is 16thCentury.sense ? Message-ID: <Cu3q6s.6G9@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 07:01:39 GMT I remember that there is a stack for music named 16thCentury.sense but don't remember where to ftp it. Can you give me a pointer ? Mr.WONG Sai Kee Graduate Student (NeXTMail Welcome)
From: jtodd@greyfox.digex.net (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cub-X or co-Xist ? Date: 6 Aug 1994 16:57:26 GMT Organization: Wit's End Message-ID: <320fdm$t88@news1.digex.net> References: <Ctvqo6.1DB@tssl.demon.co.uk> <ROBERT.94Aug3232011@steffi.demon.co.uk> Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote: : <andy@tssl.demon.co.uk> writes: : >Anyone have any comments Cub-XWindows or co-Xist. We will be needing : >one of these to develop a number of X applications. : >Which is best? : >Thanks. : >Andy : Well given that I have mailed the people at Co-Xist about what to do : to upgrade re: their "end of life" announcement and although I know : people have read the message, I've not had one single reply to let me : know the proceedure. : I'd say go with Cub-X.. YIKES! I just bought a copy of Co-Xist (the R4 version) and I've just now read that they are at "end-of-life" cycle. How do I go about getting an upgrade to R5? (or better yet, R6?) What's Pencom's email address? Phone number? -- John Todd -- Sales Digital Express Group - An Internet Access Provider Voice: 1-800-969-9090 x307 FAX: 1-301-220-0477 jtodd@digex.net
From: kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: software compatability Date: 6 Aug 1994 17:30:18 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <320hba$bu3@news.delphi.com> Keywords: software compatability I have a NeXTstation running 2.0, and I need to know if I can run any software that is UNIX 4.3BSD compatible, or if the software has to be designed for this particular machine? I heard that if I could get the source code in 'c' and then recompile it on my machine that it would work. Is this true? If it runs on a Sun, will it run on my NeXT? Thanks, Don.
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Client Software for Intel Date: 6 Aug 1994 18:54:24 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <320m90$n6s@relay.tor.hookup.net> Does anybody know the location of some X client software compiled for Intel? -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AKCL on NeXTSTEP 3.2 Date: 6 Aug 1994 19:33:34 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <320oie$oi8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <31kf0m$b3v@paperboy.ids.net> <31l6fu$1mg@eirah.ping.de> Now for the big question: Has anyone written a kit that allows C or Obj-C access to AKCL or GCL? I'm looking for something that would allow me to link in Lisp code directly into an application, be able to transfer data types, call functions, etc. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: cwagner@ee.ualberta.ca (Chad Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: kermit-USRobotics Sportster Date: 6 Aug 1994 19:37:55 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Summary: USRobotics Modem with kermit? Keywords: next I am trying to get a USRobotics Sportster modem to work with kermit. I currently am using a SupraModem 2400. The Sportster does not seem to dial out. I am using kermit 4E(070). I tied 'set modem sportster' with no success. Thanks in advance. Chad G. Wagner cwagner@bode.ee.ualberta.ca
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PhotoCD Date: 6 Aug 1994 22:41:51 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3213jf$iv5@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Cu0Lxz.1AL@eunet.ch> adelo@cimsi (Raffaello GIULIETTI) writes: > What CD-ROM drives are compatible with NEXTSTEP and PhotoAlbum.app > I'm not able to read a PhotoCD with a standard CD-ROM drive. Is > the problem in the HW or in some SW drive? I'd email a reply, but I doubt "adelo@cimsi" is an address that I can reach from here... Anyway, I think we need a bit more information. In a general sense, most CD-ROM drives should work fine for photo CD's on a NeXTSTEP machine. You may not be able to handle multi-session photo CD's (you'll only see the first session), but photo CD's themselves should work OK. But that general answer depends on your specific setup. Are you running on a NeXTstation, or under NS/Intel? Which kind of CD-ROM drive do you have. Saying that it's a "standard" CD-ROM drive is not specific enough. Some standard drives require a little software nudging to turn on their support for XA discs (such as photo CD's). If you want more information on CD-ROM drives, and on which drives support photo CD's or multi-session photo CD's, please check out the cdrom-faq. That FAQ is posted to the usenet newsgroups alt.cd-rom, comp.answers, and news.answers (among several others). It is very helpful. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mtinkle@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Mark Tinkle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 2.0d Message-ID: <71439@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Date: 6 Aug 94 17:48:40 GMT Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu Organization: University of California, San Diego My apologies in advance if I am inquiring in the wrong group... My husband is currently working on his thesis and a friend of ours suggested that he use FrameMaker to do some of the stuff on. We have a NeXT station and our manual says that we have the right to use framemaker, and can obtain a copy by calling NeXT directly :-). Since there's some difficulty doing that now... I was wondering if any kind soul out in netland would be willing to e-mail me a copy of FrameMaker? It would be greatly appreciated!!! If you'd be willing to help us out, could you e-mail me at mtinkle@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (my husband's account). thanks very much! -Lily Tinkle e-mail: mtinkle@sdcc3.ucsd.edu .
From: pmussche@loki.stanford.edu (Paul L. Mussche) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tip-Top, term and Newsgrazer Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 16:07:45 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <pmussche-0608941607450001@unstable.stanford.edu> References: <30veee$e6j@heron.cc.gatech.edu> In article <30veee$e6j@heron.cc.gatech.edu>, gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) wrote: > I am trying to run NewsGrazer over term using Tip-Top. But I can't get it to > work. I have configured my local machine name to be "cobra". I login, start > term and in a local shell type "tredir 119 nntp.server:119". This part seems > to work fine. But I tell NewsGrazer that the NNTP server is "cobra", it says > that "cobra." does not offer this service. Notice the "." at the end of > "cobra". I think that this is the problem. Can anyone help? > > Thanks > Frank > > > > -- > COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR > Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 > uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a > Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu Try localhost instead of cobra. Paul.
From: curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Searching for: SmartUPS interface for NS/I Date: 7 Aug 1994 02:47:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Distribution: world Message-ID: <321i05$aau@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <31rj5m$ab5@hecate.umd.edu> Keywords: PowerFail InterObj In article <31rj5m$ab5@hecate.umd.edu> elitman@proxima.com () writes: > Chris Saldanha (csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca) wrote: > > Todd Rodgers (willr@crl.com) wrote: > > : I am wondering if there is a software package available that does the > > : load tests and auto shutdowns with an APC SmartUPS. I know that APC > > : sells powerchute for various systems, but NS/I isn't one of them. > > > What you want is PowerGuardian, from BenaTong. It does UPS tests, and > > auto-shutdown. The shutdown process can be customized using simple > Well...I'm wishing I had purchased PowerGuardian. I purchased PowerFail from Inter Object Design about a year ago and haven't gotten the software to work right since I got it. I received one email message with a list of things to try, but then wasn't able to get email to them again. So, before I go buy PowerGuardian, does anyone know how to get ahold of people at InterObj? They don't have a phone number and have a PO Box address. Thanks for any help! Curt Burgess -------------- <from the header of their email> From: InterObj <fafnir!interobj@uu.psi.com> To: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu Subject: Re: PowerFail problems Reply-To: fafnir!interobj@uu.psi.com I N T E R O B J E C T D E S I G N InterObj@Fafnir.com -------------- -- Dr. Curt Burgess, Cognitive Psychology Program Department of Psychology, Univ Calif-Riverside, Riverside, CA 92521-0426 USA Internet: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu <<< NeXT mail ok MaBellNet: (909) 787-2392 FAX: (909) 787-3985
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cub-X or co-Xist ? Date: 6 Aug 1994 23:21:20 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <321jvg$nud@digifix.digifix.com> References: <320fdm$t88@news1.digex.net> John Todd writes > YIKES! I just bought a copy of Co-Xist (the R4 version) and I've just now > read that they are at "end-of-life" cycle. How do I go about getting an > upgrade to R5? (or better yet, R6?) What's Pencom's email address? Phone > number? WAIT!!! You need to go back and re-read the announcement... Basically its co-Xist 2.x that is not going to be supported any more. co-Xist 3 still will be. Pencom Announces End-Of-Life on co-Xist 2.x Users must upgrade before September 30th to continue support. AUSTIN, Texas, July 25, 1994 - With the release of co-Xist 3.2m, the new Multi-Architecture Binary (MAB) version of co-Xist for both NeXT and Intel sytems, Pencom is also declaring product end-of-life on all 2.x releases of co-Xist for NeXT hardware. These include all co-Xist 2.0, 2.0.1, 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 versions. Begining with X11R4 and Motif 1.1.3 in April of 1991, co-Xist has remained the market-leading X implementation for NEXTSTEP. However, as significant enhancements have been made over the years to X11, Motif, NEXTSTEP, and co-Xist, the effort required to support these older versions is no longer feasible. Pencom is requesting that current license holders of 2.x versions upgrade to the most recent version of co-Xist by September 30, 1994. After this date, upgrade pricing will no longer be available. Technical support for all 2.x versions of co-Xist will also cease on that date. In November of 1992, Pencom began shipping co-Xist 3.0, specifically for NEXTSTEP 3.0. This release was an implementation of X11R5 and included significant performance enhancements. Motif 1.2.1 was also available at this time. In December of 1993, co-Xist 3.2i was released specifically for NEXTSTEP 3.2 on Intel Processors. With co-Xist 3.2m, Pencom introduces an updated MAB implementation of X11R5 for both NeXT and Intel hardware. Also new with this release is Motif 1.2.3, CD-ROM-only distribution, and a collection of freely available pre-compiled software. FOR SALES AND UPGRADE INFORMATION -- call 1-800-PENCOM-4 or e-mail co-Xist_info@pencom.com (please confirm if you can receive NeXT Mail). For press information, contact Matthew Waters, Pencom Software, 9050 Capital of Texas Highway North, Austin, Texas, 78759. Ph: 512-343-6666. Fax: 512-343-9650. e-mail: matthew@pencom.com. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: me@skink.uwa.edu.au (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: Makefile changes to NCSA Mosaic for Nextstep? Date: 07 Aug 1994 04:20:36 GMT Organization: Centre for Linguistics, UWA, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <ME.94Aug7122036@skink.uwa.edu.au> If anyone happens to know the Makefile changes required to compile NCSA Mosaic for a Nextstation running NS 3.2 and Co-Xist 3.0, please pass them along (via email if possible). Thanks, -Jim -- ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <Cu48ov.Dw@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 13:41:19 GMT Hi, Is FrameMaker for Intel shipping yet ? If yes, could someone tell me their e-mail address so I can order a copy ? Thanks Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian) Subject: Help : GateWay_2000 display Message-ID: <1994Aug7.172134.17689@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 17:21:34 GMT Hi, We have installed NeXTStep 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 computer. This system is equipped with an ATI Ultra Pro (plus) with 2 megabytes of video DRAM We have the following problem : The best display we could get when running NeXTStep is 800 x 600 in color and 1024 x 768 in BW. There is no problem getting a better display (for eg:1024 x 768 in color) when working with windows. I recently read the bugs associated with the 3.2 version ATI Ultra Pro display adapter which said the following The maximum resolution the NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 ATI Ultra Pro driver supports with the XLR is 800 x 600 in 16 bit color and 1120 x 832 in 8 bit grayscale. Is there any way we can get around this problem ? or we just have to live with the 800 x 600 resolution. Any suggestions ? Thanks Balu, T
From: pmussche@loki.stanford.edu (Paul L. Mussche) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RBrowser over a term connection. Date: Sun, 07 Aug 1994 13:22:09 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <pmussche-0708941322090001@unstable.stanford.edu> Dear reader, I would like tu run RBrowser over a phone line. I do not have a SLIP connection but a "term" connection which allows me to run TCP/IP-type programs over the phone line e.g. telnet, ftp, rn without being an IP node. I was wondering if there was a way for me to tell RBrowser to use my term connection to log into the remote UNIX computer. I can redirect the telnet port on my NeXT to connect to the remote machine (by invoking tredir 2023 23 and then doing telnet localhost 2023) but I don't know how to tell RBrowser to do that or whatever it expects in its login panel. Any clue? Paul.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: My hardware compatible with NS? Message-ID: <Cu6Fr5.45B@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 18:09:03 GMT I have read through NeXTAnswers and consulted with Next and others to determine if the following list of items would run NS: AMI Enterprise IV EISA/VESA motherboard with 32MRAM BusLogic 747S SCSI II controller Micropolis CM4110 drive Toshiba XM3401B CD-ROM Number Nine GXEL16 local bus S3 video card Logitech chordless mouse Northgate Omnikey Ultra keyboard Does anyone have good/bad stories to share about any of these components? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for OS/2, Linux, and NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: kermit-USRobotics Sportster Message-ID: <1994Aug7.113341.4864@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 11:33:41 GMT In article <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> cwagner@ee.ualberta.ca (Chad Wagner) writes: ~> I am trying to get a USRobotics Sportster modem to work with kermit. ~> I currently am using a SupraModem 2400. ~> The Sportster does not seem to dial out. ~> I am using kermit 4E(070). First get a (much) newer version of Kermit. 5A(192) should be up and out of test phase by now, and perhaps beyond (193..) Bruce
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: kermit-USRobotics Sportster Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:13:11 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <3247s7$3q8@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1994Aug7.113341.4864@ToTSySSoft.com> In article <1994Aug7.113341.4864@ToTSySSoft.com>, Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> wrote: >In article <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> cwagner@ee.ualberta.ca >(Chad Wagner) writes: >~> I am using kermit 4E(070). > > First get a (much) newer version of Kermit. 5A(192) should be up and >out of test phase by now, and perhaps beyond (193..) > > Bruce Yes, do get a much newer version, however, the C-Kermit version being tested is 5A(190), beta 15 (or higher as of July 31). It can be found in /kermit2/test on kermit.columbia.edu (aka watsun.cc.columbia.edu). If you want the release version, go to /kermit/b, and read the aaa* files for more info. Good luck,
From: mudog@aol.com (MuDog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTcube on an AppleTalk network? Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:18:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <32485g$sst@search01.news.aol.com> In a few weeks I'll be off to college. The college I'm attending offers Internet access by way of a Mac LocalTalk network and a VAX system. If possible, I'd like to set up my cube so that I can access the Internet with it. My question is, can a cube be hooked up to a LocalTalk network? I understand that Ethernet-to-LocalTalk devices exist, but does the cube speak the proper language? If not, does a third party company offer an alternative? Thanks in advance, Josh Neal mudog@aol.com
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ? Date: 7 Aug 1994 18:08:38 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <3234em$f5@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes: >I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF >controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive. The Sankyo tape works excellently with NeXTSTEP, I use it for months. >I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands >seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't >actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the >driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under >NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them. First: Be sure you installed the tape driver with Configure.app. Second: You need to specify a fixed block size for the tape device. This is done with a simple ioctl() call. The tool for it is called 'mtset' or 'setmtd' and can be found in the scsitools archive, e.g. on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. Just compile the little source and do a 'mtset -d /dev/nrst0 -f 512', and you'll be happy about your tape. It is very nasty that mtset is not part of the NeXTSTEP distribution, because it is an essential tool. Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software Subject: how to compile web2c-6.1 on a NeXT machine??? Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:23:24 -0400 Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <32512s$cpq@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> Did anyone have any luck compiling web2c-6.1 on a NeXT machine? I couldn't on my NS 3.2 black 68040 cube. Any advice? Thanks. Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: command line faxing solutions? Date: 08 Aug 1994 09:06:51 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> Anybody got any solutions for command line faxing? I seem to remember Steve Hayman putting together something? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: kermit-USRobotics Sportster Message-ID: <1994Aug8.072652.6236@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <3247s7$3q8@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 07:26:52 GMT In article <3247s7$3q8@bigboote.WPI.EDU> nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) writes: ~> In article <1994Aug7.113341.4864@ToTSySSoft.com>, ~> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> wrote: ~> >In article <320oqj$8q8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> cwagner@ee.ualberta.ca ~> >(Chad Wagner) writes: ~> >~> I am using kermit 4E(070). ~> > ~> > First get a (much) newer version of Kermit. ~> Yes, do get a much newer version, however, the C-Kermit version ~> being tested is 5A(190), beta 15 (or higher as of July 31). It ~> can be found in /kermit2/test on kermit.columbia.edu (aka ~> watsun.cc.columbia.edu). If you want the release version, go ~> to /kermit/b, and read the aaa* files for more info. Joel, Thanks for the correction. I've been without hot net access for a couple weeks, and really feel cut off {:-() I figured that 190 would be out of beta by now, and perhaps even supplanted a time or two. Now what we need to do is build a GUI front end for it/into it, like the Mac hacks seem to have. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Message-ID: <1994Aug4.220214.641@precipice.fdn.org> Keywords: run-time, messaging Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <31lsiv$6oe@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 22:02:14 GMT In article <31lsiv$6oe@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > In article <westesCtwDHE.704@netcom.com>, Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote: > I am still a beginning in NeXTSTEP programming. Please correct me if I'm > wrong. From my first project, the MineSweeper from Windows. I use 480 > ButtonCell Matrix as the mine field. To initialize this mine field, it > takes quite a while, about 3 seconds on Dell 450DE/2 DGX JAWS Video > system. After studying for a while, I conclude that it's either the > size of ButtonCell or the messaging which cause the overhead. The size > of a ButtonCell is 72 byte. 480 ButtonCell = 480 * 72 = 34560 bytes = > 34.56Kbytes. Doesn't seem too bad. But, sending 480 alloc and init > messages seems to be the most overhead. > > I still don't know how to overcome this overhead, anyone has any idea? > > Chris > > -- > NeXTMail super welcomed!!| > Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." > chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science > <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology This thread is normally supposed to be in c.s.n.programmer but... Instead of alloc/init your ButtonCell, have you tried to alloc/init one and then make 479 copy with "copyFromZone:myZone". I don t know if it will be faster, but you can try. Another method -more radical- is using the run-time system : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- taken from Concepts/ObjectiveC/3_MoreObjC (NS3.2) ----------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Getting a Method Address The only way to circumvent dynamic binding is to get the address of a method and call it directly as if it were a function. This might be appropriate on the rare occasions when a particular method will be performed many times in succession and you want to avoid the overhead of messaging each time the method is performed. With a method defined in the Object class, methodFor:, you can ask for a pointer to the procedure that implements a method, then use the pointer to call the procedure. The pointer that methodFor: returns must be carefully cast to the proper function type. Both return and argument types should be included in the cast. The example below shows how the procedure that implements the setTag: method might be called: id (*setter)(id, SEL, int); int i; setter = (id (*)(id, SEL, int))[target methodFor:@selector(setTag:)]; for ( i = 0; i < 1000, i++ ) setter(targetList[i], @selector(setTag:), i); The first two arguments passed to the procedure are the receiving object (self) and the method selector (_cmd). These arguments are hidden in method syntax but must be made explicit when the method is called as a function. Using methodFor: to circumvent dynamic binding saves most of the time required by messaging. However, the savings will be significant only where a particular message will be repeated many times, as in the for loop shown above. Note that methodFor: is provided by the run-time system; it's not a feature of the Objective C language itself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- end --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I m sure that there are a lot of other things to optimize but since I haven t see your code, i ll end here. Whishing it ll help you... PS : Release Notes and Concepts are always full of usefull secrets. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
From: mrossd@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu (Matt 'Well you neednt' Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTcube on an AppleTalk network? Date: 8 Aug 1994 13:17:52 GMT Organization: ACM Student Machine Message-ID: <325ba0$fif@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <32485g$sst@search01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-User: mrossd MuDog (mudog@aol.com) wrote: : In a few weeks I'll be off to college. The college I'm attending offers : Internet access by way of a Mac LocalTalk network and a VAX system. If : possible, I'd like to set up my cube so that I can access the Internet : with it. My question is, can a cube be hooked up to a LocalTalk network? I : understand that Ethernet-to-LocalTalk devices exist, but does the cube : speak the proper language? If not, does a third party company offer an : alternative? It has been my understanding that one can purchase a set of Macintosh ROMs which SCSI to the NeXTbox - I don't know if this makes any difference with networking though. As far as ethernet to localtalk, there are tons of them. The problem I think you are going to have to overcome is getting through LocalTalk with the NeXT. It sounds weird what they're doing, but whatever works. There may be some 3rd party software that will emulate LocalTalk, but this I don't know for sure (there is for DOS machines) for NeXT. Sorry if this has been no help at all! Ross -- M. Ross Davis ross.davis@vt.edu, mrossd@acm.vt.edu Virginia Tech EdCI and Music http://www.music.vt.edu/ Blacksburg Electronic Village Macintosh Support Volunteer "Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow" - F. Zappa
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Date: 8 Aug 1994 14:22:09 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <325f2h$n73@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <Aug.6.00.22.00.1994.8564@gandalf.rutgers.edu> In article <Aug.6.00.22.00.1994.8564@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: #samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: #>BenchPress.app. That was for 50 threads. 100 threads killed # #Can anyone inform me as to where I might be able to find BenchPress.app. # #Ive tried searching for it on Archie, but I get nothing. Anyway, It seems #like its a pretty neet app... # #Thanks, Later, John ftp.egr.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks or for the URL ftp://ftp.egr.uh.edu/pub/misc/BenchMarks -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth) Subject: Novell Connect Problems Message-ID: <Cu84oL.ExB@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 16:05:09 GMT I have both a NS Turbo 3.0 and a NSFIP 3.2 PC. I cannot get connected to any Novell servers within our network. I get the following message during boot: NCPsi: CreateService; Create Connnection cc=828 This occurs on both machines. This message may get repeated several times during boot. An HP Router is located between this network and the Novell network, but it did work at one time (although sometimes sporadically). Any help would be appreciated. Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <Cu81M2.3E5@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <Cu48ov.Dw@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 14:58:49 GMT JacquesGarbi wrote: : Hi, : Is FrameMaker for Intel shipping yet ? : If yes, could someone tell me their e-mail address so I can order a copy ? Its being sold through Lighthouse. (info@lighthouse.com as I recall) --Chris Chris Saldanha ------------------------------------ Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | "I'm hungry. Let's get a taco." | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | -Harvey Keitel, Reservoir Dogs | csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) Subject: Searching for: Statistics Package Message-ID: <8AUG199408103472@acad3.alaska.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAF Keywords: Statistics SPSSx Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 16:10:00 GMT I am looking for a good statistics program that will run on the NeXT. Something like SPSSx that will support lots of data manipulation, reclassing, etc. and handle catagorical data simply. Any suggestions? Lon Kelly fflak@acad3.alaska.edu
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail MIME and the Macintosh Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:01:20 GMT Organization: Take Three Distribution: world Message-ID: <940808100120.14690AAABG.wes@arissoft> References: <hfreese-050894183358@s098.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Eloquent software supposedly has a package to do MIME >on the NeXT, any contact information like phone number >or fax phone number available? Take Three: Phone: (512) 837-9784 Fax: (512) 837-8102 e-mail: eloquent_info@arissoft.com (automatic reply) eloquent_support@arissoft.com Wes Smith wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BBS software for NeXTSTEP Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:52:46 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <325nsu$jjp@news.iastate.edu> Are there any BBS which run on NeXTSTEP? My department is interested in setting up a BBS on a NeXTSTEP machine which can send/receive FAXes to/from the users. We would also like to add functionality, at a leter date, for uploading/downloading and displaying graphics on the users monitor (which could be NeXTSTEP, DOS, Windows, MacIntosh or UNIX based machinery). -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011 (515)294-4751 rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Searching for: Statistics Package Message-ID: <Cu8Bw9.2BD@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <8AUG199408103472@acad3.alaska.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:40:56 GMT In article <8AUG199408103472@acad3.alaska.edu> fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) writes: > I am looking for a good statistics program that will run on the > NeXT. Something like SPSSx that will support lots of data manipulation, > reclassing, etc. and handle catagorical data simply. SAS runs on the NeXT -- personal opinions
From: david_spitzler@next.com (David Spitzler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:47:10 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <325uje$116@rosie.next.com> References: <Cu81M2.3E5@cunews.carleton.ca> Chris Saldanha writes > JacquesGarbi wrote: > : Hi, > > : Is FrameMaker for Intel shipping yet ? > : If yes, could someone tell me their e-mail address so I can order a copy ? > > Its being sold through Lighthouse. (info@lighthouse.com as I recall) > > --Chris FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP for Intel will ship later this month. For European inquiries, please contact: Frame Technology International Limited Unit 52 Airways Industrial Estate Cloghran, Dublin 17 Ireland 353-1-842-9566 353-1-842-9478 fax They will be able to refer you to local offices and sales reps. in your country. -- David Spitzler
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Novell Connect Problems Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 13:41:00 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiFasg600iV743Zlhl@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cu84oL.ExB@csn.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 8-Aug-94 Novell Connect Problems by Brendan F. Forsyth@next. > I have both a NS Turbo 3.0 and a NSFIP 3.2 PC. I cannot get connected to > any Novell servers within our network. [ ... ] > An HP Router is located between this network and the Novell network, but > it did work at one time (although sometimes sporadically). Well, the first thing to do is verify that your HP router is properly dealing with Novell's SPX/IPX packets. Try booting your NSFIP machine to DOS and try accessing the Novell server; if it doesn't work, you know the HP box is causing problems. Also, make sure you are using the right version of Novell; from what I understand, Novell has switched which Ethernet frames they use in newer versions; I believe that you need to be using 802.3 frames to communicate with a NEXTSTEP machine. (Perhaps someone will confirm this?) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: karsten.wolf@erzíehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ? Message-ID: <Cu7KHC.7D4@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Sender: g402@jumbo.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 08:48:48 GMT References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk> Organization: Hochschulrechenzentrum (HRZ) der Universitaet Giessen In article <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>, pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes: |> I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF |> controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive. |> |> I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands |> seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't |> actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the |> driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under |> NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them. |> |> All help much appreciated... |> |> -pete. We have a HP SCSI DAT-Tape. It works. First, You have to conjure up configure.app and activate the scsi-tape-driver. Boot again, and voilá: tar is working with Your dat-tape. Cheers, Karsten
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Imagewriter and OmniImage Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:08:19 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <325vr3$hhp@due.uninett.no> When I doubleclick an image file, both ImageViewer and OmniImage starts up. What do I have to do in order to use only one of them (OmniImage). If I remove Imagewriter, OmniImage still will not show some images. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP is slow, Slow, SLOW! Date: 8 Aug 94 16:11:35 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Aug8161135@nic.gac.edu> References: <31lsiv$6oe@news.iastate.edu> <1994Aug4.220214.641@precipice.fdn.org> In-reply-to: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org's message of Thu, 4 Aug 1994 22:02:14 GMT In article <1994Aug4.220214.641@precipice.fdn.org>, neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) writes: >In article <31lsiv$6oe@news.iastate.edu>, > chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: >> I am still a beginning in NeXTSTEP programming. Please correct >> me if I'm wrong. From my first project, the MineSweeper from >> Windows. I use 480 ButtonCell Matrix as the mine field. To >> initialize this mine field, it takes quite a while, about 3 >> seconds on Dell 450DE/2 DGX JAWS Video system. After studying >> for a while, I conclude that it's either the size of ButtonCell >> or the messaging which cause the overhead. The size of a >> ButtonCell is 72 byte. 480 ButtonCell = 480 * 72 = 34560 bytes >> = 34.56Kbytes. Doesn't seem too bad. But, sending 480 alloc >> and init messages seems to be the most overhead. >> >> I still don't know how to overcome this overhead, anyone has >> any idea? > >This thread is normally supposed to be in c.s.n.programmer but... > >Instead of alloc/init your ButtonCell, have you tried to alloc/init >one and then make 479 copy with "copyFromZone:myZone". I don t >know if it will be faster, but you can try. > >Another method -more radical- is using the run-time system : > <info about getting the implementation for a method and using that omitted.> Whoa! Before you (Chris) head down the long road of specific optimizations, I think that a quickie test is in order: howard:/tmp> cat barf.m #import <appkit/appkit.h> void main( void) { ButtonCell *cell; unsigned ii; NXSetDefault( "GLOBAL", "NXSystemFonts", "Helvetica"); NXSetDefault( "GLOBAL", "NXBoldSystemFonts", "Helvetica"); NXSetDefault( "GLOBAL", "NXFontSize", "12"); for( ii=0; ii<480; ii++) { cell=[[ButtonCell alloc] init]; } } howard:/tmp> cc -o barf barf.m -lNeXT_s howard:/tmp> time barf 0.203u 0.203s 0:00.42 95.2% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w Now, from the above it would _appear_ that the +alloc/-init calls for 480 button cells took on the order of 4/10 of a second. That's likely including gobs of other overhead, plus measurement error ... but, as a first-order test it suffices, and it should be clear that the method overhead is _not_ what's making things slow in this case. Of course, there are no less than four million other things that might come into play here. The single most common reason that NeXTSTEP programs are slow is because of redundant displays. Either the same thing is drawn more than once, _or_ something is drawn as it's being built, and thus incorrect versions are drawn to later be overlaid with the correct version. The big question at this point would have to be "how are you initializing this thing?" The best way to make startup fast is to not initialize things you don't actually need to get started up. The second best way is to initialize everything first, and _then_ draw it _all_ in one swell foop. What I've found to be the quickest way to detect redundant drawing is to run your program like: MyProgram.app/MyProgram -NXShowAllWindows Alternately, use -NXAllWindowsRetained. In either case, it makes it so that you can see things as they happen. You might also toss in -NXSyncPS, which forces the Postscript to the server as if you followed all drawing with an immediate NXPing() call. This _will_ make things slower, but it will also make it clearer how things are being drawn. Later, -- scott hess <scott@gac.edu> <A GUI is to a command-line as a TV is to a book> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Who uses flat file Databases ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 15:09:15 -0800 Organization: University of British Columbia Message-ID: <sandrac-080894150915@port45.annex1.net.ubc.ca> I think this would be interesting for users, developers to the actual software house. As we no longer have NextWorld to do the bias, we can maybe get the opion of the users and I will post the results... Who is using flat file database ackages? Which ones ? Stone, Lighthouse/D'Art, Xanthus.... What are the pro's and con's ? Why did you pick this product over the other ? Enjoy.
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk Optimizing Software? Date: 8 Aug 94 16:21:25 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Aug8162125@nic.gac.edu> References: <CtKC0L.pt@euler.hnv.icem.de> <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> In article <CtKC0L.pt@euler.hnv.icem.de>, js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes: >In article <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> leslie@mercury.interpath.net > (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology) writes: >> Does anyone have reccs for disk optimizing software for NeXTSTEP >> systems on black cubes? > >What exactly did you have in mind? >Do not worry about file fragmentation - bsd filesystem should take >care of that for you already. Here's an article I posted last year on this topic. People seemed to like it _then_, perhaps it's reasonable to repost ... as with last time, if you have nits to pick about it, please let me know for next time I post it ... From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk file fragmentation in UNIX Date: 9 Nov 93 16:54:12 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov9165412@nic.gac.edu> In article <1993Nov7.231501.1167@kurt.in-berlin.de>, gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: >In article <CG3Jwo.1Mz@nextsrv1.andi.org>, > c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) writes: >> About a month ago I posted a query about utilities that would optimize >> NeXT disk files similar to what Norton Disk optimizeer does for DOS. I >> got back about 4 replies telling me that FF took care of this an in the >> UNIX world files do not get fragmented. So I went to bed and slept >> soundly at night. Then I just got a SunWorld magazine with an article >> that says UNIX files do fragment just like DOS files and a company by the >> name of Eagle Software is selling the utility to fix that. Hopefully >> someone with greater knowledge of the Mach file system will read that >> article and pass on some definitive info. > >Sorry, but mach WILL DO THAT FOR YOU! If you run fsck mostly you'll get a >fragmentation <1%! Believe it! Well, Mach doesn't have a filesystem, so Mach really won't do it for you. But, since NeXTSTEP runs BSD4.3 Unix over Mach, we get to use the BSD FFS. So, The Magic of FFS (as gleaned from reading "The Design and Implementation of BSD4.3 Unix" a couple years ago, alongside my tendancy to enjoy reading about esoteric data in various industry rags. Please keep in mind that this is a horrendous simplification, since I am not capable of comprehending the full beauty of FFS): Under DOS and similar operating systems, disk space is allocated on a first-come, first-served basis. Consider this disk: |................................................................| If we create a small file A, then a small file B, and then expand A, we get something like: |AAAABBBBaaaa....................................................| (The a's are the part of A that was expanded, and is now fragmented.) Now, create C, delete B, and expand C: * |AAAAccccaaaaCCCC................................................| Oops. Note how the first part of C is at the end, and the last part is stuck in between the two parts of A! This can get even worse. Erase the disk and create A again: |AAAAAAAA........................................................| Now, say we have a process that reads from A and writes out two new files based on that data, B and C, with the writing to those files interspersed. We might end up with something like: ** |AAAAAAAABBCBCBCBCCBCBBCC........................................| Eeek! If you want to read B or C, you can't just find it and then _read_, you have to continuously find where the next block is, because they aren't stored in a decent linear fashion. Now you want to go sic your disk defragger on * and **, and you'll end up with something like: * |AAAAaaaaCCCCcccc................................................| ** |AAAAAAAABBBBBBBBCCCCCCCC........................................| Since all of the parts of each file are now adjacent, reading each file is faster, because we don't have to traipse all over the disk to find them. But, once we start using the system again, the fragmentation will also start up again (consider expanding A or B above). How's it work with FFS? FFS doesn't allocate blocks from the disk in a linear start-to-end fashion. Instead, if spreads files all over the place. If we do the original "create A, create B" scenario, we might end up with something like: |AAAA............BBBB............................................| Instead of putting B right after A, it's put off somewhere else. I like to think of this as "pre-fragmenting" the disk (note that I said disk, not files). Instead of having fragmentation be a liability, it's an advantage, because the space between the fragments on the disk is available to expand those files. Now, if we expand A, we can stuff those new blocks right after the main part of the file: |AAAAaaaa........BBBB............................................| If we create C and delete B, it might look like: |AAAAaaaa........................CCCC............................| Again, we can stuff new C blocks right after the current position of the file, because those blocks haven't been allocated to anything else yet: *' |AAAAaaaa........................CCCCcccc........................| It's easy enough to see that accesses to A or C should be decent, because all of their blocks are stored together. Now, erase the disk and create A again: |AAAAAAAA........................................................| And start the process that turns A into B and C: |AAAAAAAA........BB..............C...............................| As you can see, as new blocks of B and C are required, they can easily be added at the end of the currently allocated blocks, and you end up like: **' |AAAAAAAA........BBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........................| Again, the blocks are all together. Isn't this all neat? So, where's the problem? Well, at _some_ point, the disk starts getting full: |AAAAAAAA........BBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| Now, if we want to create E, where does it go? Well, we'll obviously _have_ to start eating into those free areas which were allowing us to expand files: |AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBB........CCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| If we want to expand A, we're stuck - we have to fragment the file: |AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBaaaaaaaaCCCCCCCC........DDDDDDDD........| Now we've blocked off B, too, so it would have to be fragmented if expanded (though note that neither C nor D would have to be if they were expanded a bit). This is where the 10% space overhead comes from that FFS disks like to have. That space is reserved from use by general users in order to allow the storage algorithms to work in the manner demonstrated above. In the examples above, that %10 wouldn't help much because the file sizes were significant fraction of the disk size. On a 1Gig disk, for instance, the files would be on the order of 120Meg or more apiece. This is _not_ the norm! In general, the disk is orders of magnitude larger than the files stored on it, so instead of having a few large files as above there will be thousands of tiny files. With that in mind, %10 (100M for a 1Gig disk) gives you plenty of room to allow files to expand in an orderly fashion. That's why you'll generally only have %1 or %2 fragmentation on FFS disks. How's this all impinge on the original poster's question? First off, it strongly indicates that the value you would get for an FFS defragmenter would be much less than the value you would get from a DOS defragmenter. Also consider that the FFS defragmenter is probably going to cost an order of magnitude more than the DOS one - so you're paying more for less value! FFS is no _guarantee_ that files won't get fragmented - but where DOS FAT filesystem has no protection again fragmentation, FFS does. Defragmenting a DOS disk can often result in easily noticable improvements - whereas defragmenting an FFS disk might require precise measurements to determine if there was any improvement. [Throw this all out the door for non-FFS Unix filesystems. I have no idea how they work, and I noticed that the original poster quoted "UNIX files do fragment", an important point. From my readings, though, I'm pretty sure that newer filesystems like the new NT filesystem and OS/2 HPFS (or whatever) use very similar concepts. In fact, it's sort of odd to read about them because it almost seems like they take FFS and do a global find and replace on the terms so that instead of "inode" we have "hnode" or something of the sort, and many other terms are similarily different in odd ways so that at first glance you think they're talking about FFS, but they aren't.] Later, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! <C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them> <In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.> Later, -- scott hess <scott@gac.edu> <A GUI is to a command-line as a TV is to a book> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: BinHex utilities on a Next Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 19:44:24 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug08.194424.8579@cyantic.com> I have recently received a number of files that have been "BinHex"ed on a Mac. Since I do not have a Mac close by, I would like to be able to decode these files on my Next or on a PC. Preferably, the Next or another Unix system. Is there available an equivalent of the BinHex utilities for the Next, PC, or other Unix system? Please respond by email. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: Does anyone know what became of the NeXT Stealth.app? Message-ID: <1994Aug8.192013.19686@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 19:20:13 GMT Subject says all. David Ferrero david@zion.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.object,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Booch2 notation dpalette2? Date: 08 Aug 1994 20:31:33 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug8213133@steffi.demon.co.uk> Now I know Bruce Webster put together a Booch 1 notation palette but has anybody put together one for Booch 2? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.hp48 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Will trade Image Filter for HP48GX Message-ID: <Cu8CGs.JFC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:53:15 GMT I have written a NeXTStep Image Filter Service, that will convert many different file formats and allow many NeXTStep applications (Mail.app, IconBuilder.app, etc.) to load them just as if they were TIFF or EPS. The current list of formats loadable by my filter: gif Compuserve Graphics Interchange Format gro HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex grob HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex apf Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Picture File gsbin Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Graphics Screen Image pplus Paintworks Packed Super Hi-Res Picture File ast AST VisionEffects Color Data File hp150 HP 150 GWBASIC Binary Screen Image jpg Joint Photographic Expert Group Image (JPEG) I will trade this program for an HP48GX with serial cable. I might even trade for an HP48SX with serial cable. If you are interested in obtaining this filter, email me. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sound utils in NS 3.2 Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:49:12 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <326jq8$pun@news.bu.edu> I am looking for what sound utilities exist for nextstep for intel hardware. Is there some kind of sox wrapper/front end, or any other utilities? I know that back in the 2.x days the black hardware came with fairly complete music kits which don't seem to be around anymore. Where can any of this stuff be ftp'd, assuming it can be? thanks
From: pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: VirtSpace (Virtual Screen Management for NS 3.2) Date: 9 Aug 1994 04:42:48 GMT Organization: University of Florida Message-ID: <3271g8INN4he@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> I tried without success to contact Pinnacle Research to purchase some copies of VirtSpace, the screen extender. VirtSpace is a very nice screen extender that anyone who does more than one GUI intensive thing at a time should use, i.m.o. (I tried virtspace@pri.com.) Does anyone have the e-mail address of the the person who "owns" VirtSpace, and who can sell me a couple of keys the lastest version? Sincerely, Paul Griffin p.s. I would be a nice selling point if NeXT incorporated virtual screens as part of Workspace Manager.
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: hayes modem help Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:52:31 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <32722f$507@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> ----------------------------------------------------------- hi all ! i posted a while back about this but i am still having problems so here it is again. To those of you who have already lent a hand - THANK YOU! i just got my hands on a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 and i can't get it to work correctly. I am using C-Kermit 5A(189)on a vintage 25MHz NeXTStation (one of the ol' pizza boxes). The remote site that i connect with has C-Kermit running on a Sun Sparcstation. All i did was change the modem, and change a few things in the .kermrc file and now it doesn't work. Is there something else that i am supposed to do with a Hayes Modem, that i am not doing? The problem is speed. The characters appear on my screen very very slowly. It takes forever for the login: of the remote machine to come up. If i somehow manage to login and try to issue a command (lets say ls) Everything freezes for a while, then it prints the characters very slowly in bunches, then it freezes again, then a few more characters... it takes about 15 minutes to display a page of text. It's really unbelievable. I'm really at a loss. I am not even sure what i should be looking for. I just can't figure out what i'm doing that is wrong. The old Racal-Vadic 1200 modem with the 4 line .kermrc file works fine. But I cant get The Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 to do it's thang. Here's what my .kermrc looks like (between the dotted lines): -------------------------------------------------------------------- echo Executing \v(cmdfile) for \v(system)... set line /dev/cufa set speed 38400 #set speed 19200 set parity none set file display fullscreen set terminal bytesize 8 set file bytesize 8 set buffers 16384 16384 set send packet-length 248 set receive packet-length 248 set window 30 set block-check 3 set file names literal set file character-set next-multinational set terminal character-set next-multinational set flow-control none set file type binary set dial hangup off set dial modem-hangup off set dial display on set dial speed-matching off set modem hayes set carrier auto set prompt {\v(host).C-Kermit> } cd ~/downloads -------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope that there others out there with a NeXT, who are also using this modem and can give some advise. Help. Please. I would be grateful for any help that you could give. Thanks very much in advance! Help. Please. Sorry i can't get NeXTmail or MIME-mail, i have to get my mail from a cluster of SUN computers. Everything Everbest, kevin parks the center for computer music conservatory of music brooklyn college of the city university of new york E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu *-------------------------------------------------------------------* * Once an angry man dragged his father along the ground * * through his own orchard. "Stop!" cried the groaning old * * man at last, "Stop! I did not drag my father beyond this tree." * * * * - Gertrude Stein in The Making of Americans * *-------------------------------------------------------------------*
From: begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: VirtSpace (Virtual Screen Management for NS 3.2) Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:18:24 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <3273j0$kr@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <3271g8INN4he@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <3271g8INN4he@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu writes: >Does anyone have the e-mail address of the the person who "owns" >VirtSpace, and who can sell me a couple of keys the lastest version? > NYRO Technix, Inc. is now selling VirtSpace. Their contact info is: 1-800-664-6976 (NYRO) or 415/664-1170 voice 415/664-5530 fax I don't have an e-mail address in front of me but I believe it is info@nyro.com but I could be wrong. Sonja -- Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.'' Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080 e-mail: sjkb@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3264mb$24b@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Control: cancel <3264mb$24b@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:39:22 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <326fna$2la@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cancel <3264mb$24b@marsu.tynet.sub.org> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Does anyone know what became of the NeXT Stealth.app? Message-ID: <Cu9GnJ.2KB@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <1994Aug8.192013.19686@zion.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:21:18 GMT In article <1994Aug8.192013.19686@zion.com> david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) writes: > Subject says all. > It bought a piece of the farm. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Date: 9 Aug 1994 11:57:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <327qvf$ssc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <sandrac-080894150915@port45.annex1.net.ubc.ca> Sandra Christensen (sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote: : Who is using flat file database ackages? me, me! : Which ones ? Stone yes, I love DataPhile v2.1 from Stone Design! : What are the pro's and con's ? pro: it's really cool and easy to use, con: it's flatfile, but hey, it works for me. : Why did you pick this product over the other ? better marketing, it was the only one I had heard of when I bought it, and I'm glad I bought it. I converted my SuperBase v2 for Windows Database in a few minutes without using the manual. I have a 1600 record database and DataPhile v2.1 does everything I want it to....... I also think it's really cool that it's distributed on CD, makes installation really slick.... : Enjoy. I am. thanx! Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: VirtSpace (Virtual Screen Management for NS 3.2) Date: 9 Aug 1994 11:59:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <327r3t$ssc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3271g8INN4he@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> <3273j0$kr@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush (begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com) wrote: : In article <3271g8INN4he@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu writes: : >Does anyone have the e-mail address of the the person who "owns" : >VirtSpace, and who can sell me a couple of keys the lastest version? : NYRO Technix, Inc. is now selling VirtSpace. Their contact info is: : 1-800-664-6976 (NYRO) or 415/664-1170 voice : 415/664-5530 fax I use VirtSpace v3.01, and I LOVE it... how did I live without it? I recomend it HIGHLY to everyone... it is SO DAMN COOL! Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Date: 9 Aug 1994 12:06:23 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> References: <Cu81M2.3E5@cunews.carleton.ca> <325uje$116@rosie.next.com> In article <325uje$116@rosie.next.com>, David Spitzler <david_spitzler@next.com> wrote: > <stuff about Framemaker deleted> >-- >David Spitzler Is it real or is it the automaton? ;-) Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: malcolm@acadia.aretha (Malcolm Sanders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser over a term connection. Date: 09 Aug 1994 14:17:54 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <MALCOLM.94Aug9101754@acadia.aretha> References: <pmussche-0708941322090001@unstable.stanford.edu> To: pmussche@loki.stanford.edu (Paul L. Mussche) In-reply-to: pmussche@loki.stanford.edu's message of Sun, 07 Aug 1994 13:22:09 -0800 In article <pmussche-0708941322090001@unstable.stanford.edu> pmussche@loki.stanford.edu (Paul L. Mussche) writes: Dear reader, I would like tu run RBrowser over a phone line. I do not have a SLIP connection but a "term" connection which allows me to run TCP/IP-type programs over the phone line e.g. telnet, ftp, rn without being an IP node. I was wondering if there was a way for me to tell RBrowser to use my term connection to log into the remote UNIX computer. I can redirect the telnet port on my NeXT to connect to the remote machine (by invoking tredir 2023 23 and then doing telnet localhost 2023) but I don't know how to tell RBrowser to do that or whatever it expects in its login panel. Any clue? Paul. First get term up and running on your local host and your remote host, then pick an used port on your local host, say 8765, and redirect this port to port 512 on the remote machine, e.g. tredir 8765 remote.host.name:512 Then, in RBrowser, connect to "localhostname,8765." Fun, but slow. -Malcolm M. Sanders (physicist at large) \|/ ........ P.O. Box 8155 - o - ( ( ). Ellsworth, Maine 04605 /\ /|\ (... ) ...) /\/^^\ (.....) email: mms@jax.org / \/\ phone: (207)667-2669 ^^^^^ / \^^^^^^^^^ *ACADIA* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <Cu9v0w.HHw@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:31:42 GMT In article <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: >>In article <325uje$116@rosie.next.com>, >>David Spitzler <david_spitzler@next.com> wrote: >>> >><stuff about Framemaker deleted> >>>-- >>>David Spitzler >> >> >>Is it real or is it the automaton? ;-) >> >>Lusty I just wanted to thank Lusty (the docu-goddess) personally for the fine job she's done on the WriteUp documentation. No, I'm not schmoozing up 'cause I want a SLIP/PPP account when I go back to A&M this fall :-) (she really did do a bang up job on the docs...really...no, really...I mean it) -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: david_spitzler@next.com (David Spitzler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Date: 9 Aug 1994 14:41:44 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3284j8$qi@rosie.next.com> References: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench writes > In article <325uje$116@rosie.next.com>, > David Spitzler <david_spitzler@next.com> wrote: > > > <stuff about Framemaker deleted> > >-- > >David Spitzler > > Is it real or is it the automaton? ;-) > Hmmm...good question. I'm not sure. Maybe ask Jayson. He seems to know everything ;-) -- David Spitzler
From: lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net (Laurent Azzopardi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 9 Aug 1994 04:45:07 -0000 Organization: Slafe Corp. Message-ID: <3271kj$13a@alpha.frmug.fr.net> References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit pete french (pete@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote : ~> I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF ~> controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive. I've got exactly the same configuration and it works very well. but you must use something like this : --- snip --- snip --- snip --- snip --- /* * mtset - set SCSI tape driver characteristics * * setmtd - set SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size * by John L. Chmielewski * Tue Feb 19, 1991 * * Modified to take drive name argument and default to non-rewinding mode: * by David D. Johnson (ddj@gradient.com) * Sun Feb 24, 1991 * * Modified to use switches to change tape device name and characteristics: * mtset [-d name] [-f size] [-i] * -d tape device name (default /dev/nrst0) * -f Sets the driver to fixed block mode, uses * argument of block size in bytes (default 512 bytes), * Variable block mode is default. * -i Inhibit illegal length (default is to allow illegal length) */ /* USE AT YOUR OUR RISK. I NOT NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEM CAUSED BY THIS PROGRAM. */ #include <fcntl.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <dev/scsireg.h> #define RSTDEVICE "/dev/nrst0" #define BLOCKSIZE 512 main(int argc, char *argv[]) { extern int optind; extern char *optarg; int fd; int defsize = BLOCKSIZE; int size = BLOCKSIZE; char *deffile = RSTDEVICE; char *file = RSTDEVICE; u_int mode = MTIOCVARBLK; u_int inhibit = MTIOCALILL; char c; while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "d:f:i")) != EOF) { switch (c) { case 'd': file = optarg; break; case 'f': mode = MTIOCFIXBLK; size = atoi(optarg); break; case 'i': inhibit = MTIOCINILL; break; default: fprintf(stderr, "usage: %s [-d device] [-f block-size] [-i]\n", argv[0]); fprintf(stderr, " -d tape device name (default %s)\n", deffile); fprintf(stderr, " -f set fix block mode with size (default size %d)\n", defsize); fprintf(stderr, " -i Inhibit illegal length\n"); fprintf(stderr, " default: variable block mode, allow illegal length\n"); exit(1); } } if ((fd = open(file, O_RDWR)) < 0) { perror(file); exit(1); } if (ioctl(fd, mode, &size) < 0) { perror("ioctl"); exit(1); } if (ioctl(fd, inhibit) < 0) { perror("ioctl"); exit(1); } (void) close(fd); return 0; } --- snip --- snip --- snip --- snip --- that's all. Bye Laurent. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net <-> NeXTmail accepted (not > 20 Ko) * * lolo@alpha.epita.fr > * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: grindrod@embl-heidelberg.de (David Grindrod) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug9.172139.171443@eros.embl-heidelberg.de> Date: 9 Aug 94 17:21:39 +0100 Organization: European Molecular Biology Laboratory Is there a version of X windows for HP NeXTSTEP available yet? ------------------------------------------------------------------ David Grindrod NMR System Manager EMBL, Heidelberg. Email: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Contacting Louis Mamakos Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:47:53 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3288f9$m8m@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> I've been trying to contact Louis Mamakos, author of the TransSys PNI slip package. I've sent several messages to pni-beta@TransSys.COM (the address given in the PNI documentation), but never had an answer. I've tried calling his number at the U of Maryland (301-405-7836) and got a "number not in service" message. I want to send the guy money and register the package, but he's not making it easy for me. If anyone can suggest an alternate contact address or phone number, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. System administrator and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: FSP - Where can I find an executable? Message-ID: <Cu9zG8.6ps@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:07:20 GMT Can anyone point me to a compiled FSP client? Either for the NeXT or not, but something. Thanks for any help. -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CuA192.Kyo@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Aug9.172139.171443@eros.embl-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:46:14 GMT David Grindrod (grindrod@embl-heidelberg.de) wrote: : Is there a version of X windows for HP NeXTSTEP available yet? There isn't an HP NeXTSTEP available yet, really. People are getting way ahead of themselves with this. Surely no developer is going to ship a commercial app for an OS that is not shipping because it is still in beta. One has to be careful that NeXT doesn't change some little thing that breaks their apps. There are many products that are poised to ship upon shipping of NS/HP. Remember how long it took to get Intel apps when NS/i came out? The situation is infinetely better now, for HP, as (many) developers have learned to write NS-portable code exclusively, and to account for hardware differences (big vs little-endian, etc). --Chris Chris Saldanha ------------------------------------ Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | "I'm hungry. Let's get a taco." | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | -Harvey Keitel, Reservoir Dogs | csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------------------------
From: moose@svcdudes.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command line faxing solutions? Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:55:48 GMT Organization: Software Ventures Corp. Distribution: world Message-ID: <328cek$egk@news.svcdudes.com> References: <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > Anybody got any solutions for command line faxing? > If you purchased MicroPhone, we have a command line fax program free for our users. Just email me and I'll send it to you. Unfortunately, it's black only. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Programmer | Macintosh and NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:50:37 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YiFvDRm00UhW82xJQD@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3284j8$qi@rosie.next.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 9-Aug-94 Re: FrameMaker for Intel by David Spitzler@next.com > Lusty Wench writes > > Is it real or is it the automaton? ;-) > > Hmmm...good question. I'm not sure. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Either way, he (it?) seems Turing capable! Of course, the next trick should be for the automaton to learn how to reproduce itself and spread to all NEXTSTEP systems on the net. Just think of how much more functional our machines will be with a contagious "David Spitzler" daemon around.... <g,r,&d> -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Date: 9 Aug 1994 18:10:00 GMT Organization: None Distribution: usa Message-ID: <328gpo$616@news.tamu.edu> References: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> <Cu9v0w.HHw@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cu9v0w.HHw@txnews.amd.com>, Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) <rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com> wrote: > >I just wanted to thank Lusty (the docu-goddess) personally for the fine job >she's done on the WriteUp documentation. *blush* I didn't think anybody noticed ;-) >No, I'm not schmoozing up 'cause I want a SLIP/PPP account when I go back to >A&M this fall :-) I really did try to answer your mail, but it seemed the spool drive was full on your machine. I'll did out my bounce and send it again. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: Novell Connect Problems Message-ID: <1994Aug9.164522.20221@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <IiFasg600iV743Zlhl@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:45:22 GMT In article <IiFasg600iV743Zlhl@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: [edit] > Also, make sure you are using the right version of Novell; from what I > understand, Novell has switched which Ethernet frames they use in newer > versions; I believe that you need to be using 802.3 frames to > communicate with a NEXTSTEP machine. (Perhaps someone will confirm > this?) Novell has indeed changed their default Ethernet frame type from 802.3 (raw) to 802.2 LLC. However, this should not affect the NetWare Unix Client processes under NEXTSTEP -- the npsd process should just "find and bind" the IPX frame-type that exists on your Ethernet LAN. If you need to force npsd to bind to a certain frame type, you can edit /etc/rc. -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:17:01 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <siFwURS00UhW82xOVh@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CuA192.Kyo@cunews.carleton.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 9-Aug-94 Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? by Chris Saldanha@mae.carle > People are getting way ahead of themselves with this. Surely no > developer is going to ship a commercial app for an OS that is not > shipping because it is still in beta. One has to be careful that NeXT > doesn't change some little thing that breaks their apps. Agree. (However, it's not unreasonable for developers to start shipping beta versions of their software with the understanding that things may break between the beta and final releases of the OS.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good scanning software ?? Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:30:49 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <67495.seins@fox.nstn.ca> To: rsilver@panix.com On 6 Aug 1994 02:07:51 -0400, Russell Silverman <rsilver@panix.com> wrote: >Any ideas ? > >I am looking for the best, cheapest scanning software for NS/fip 3.2, >send all ideas to me here. --thanks, RS Try ScanTastic for Epson Scanners by Second Glance Software. It is quite a good program. Our only complaints are that it can not be used as a service from your own custom applications. It also can bomb out when you attempt to rotate a large 8 X 11 image from one orientation to another. Second Glance can be contacted at (714) 855-2331. Other scanner types may be available. Cheers, Todd White -- Police Data Automation Command | We'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Research and Development Centre | our computer currently has | different ideas. SEINS | ASCII-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HTTP servers under NeXTstep Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:09:05 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: ncsa,cern,plexus Howdy! Anyone have any experience installing an HTTP server under NeXTstep? I am looking at Plexus, as it runs under Perl. Sharing any of your experiences with CERN, NCSA or the Plexus perl server would be appreciated. Christopher Penrose penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu _______________________________________________________________________ While snuggling in a shipping crate of inflatable sheep, I find your lost grommet; once again, it can buffer the daily friction between your husband's Che Guevara, and your own Mrs. Beasley. At the same time, it ensures that your codependency flows unabated. You mustnt spank me when I return it. _______________________________________________________________________
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disk Optimizing Software? Date: 9 Aug 1994 20:28:21 GMT Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Message-ID: <328ot5$fl3@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <CtKC0L.pt@euler.hnv.icem.de> <30tkmk$jaa@redstone.interpath.net> <SCOTT.94Aug8162125@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: [Lots of stuff about the differences between BSD FFS and the DOS filesystem, some correct, some not] You and others mention seeing data like < 1% fragmentation on a NeXTStep disk at boot. Note that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with fragmentation in the sense normally understood by DOS and Mac users -- this is fragmentation because of file size. Unix stores files in blocks (dunno the normal size in NeXTStep/BSD, probably 4K) and also has fragments, probably 512 bytes or so. Lets say you store a 1000 byte file. You have two 512 byte fragments allocated to it, the fragmentation of the disk is 100%. Then you add a 1M file, which would have 256 full 4K blocks allocated to it, and no fragments. Then the filesystem would say it has (2/1002) 0.2% fragmentation. You might be able to get small performance gains on disks where a lot of files are constantly written, rewritten, extended, etc. But probably not very noticeable. Any app that did it couldn't do better than using dump and restore to copy the filesystem (you have to have another disk or tape to copy it to and then from, of course) unless it interfaced with the kernel to figure out what files and parts of files were accessed most frequently and group those blocks together. I believe some Mac apps do this, but interfacing with the Mac's "kernel" is a bit easier and less risky than doing it in Unix. I'd say the dump/restore method might gain you a little, so you can do it if you think its worth the trouble, but I sure wouldn't buy a product to do it. Remember, just because some company sells something doesn't mean it is a product that is needed or is useful. You can buy books that tell you how to win the lottery, that doesn't mean they will tell you anything useful... -- Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP servers under NeXTstep Date: 9 Aug 1994 21:54:05 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Distribution: world Message-ID: <328ttt$2dr@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> In article <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) writes: > > Howdy! > > Anyone have any experience installing an HTTP server under > NeXTstep? I am looking at Plexus, as it runs under Perl. > Sharing any of your experiences with CERN, NCSA or the Plexus > perl server would be appreciated. > > > Christopher Penrose penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu > _______________________________________________________________________ > > While snuggling in a shipping crate of inflatable sheep, I find your > lost grommet; once again, it can buffer the daily friction between > your husband's Che Guevara, and your own Mrs. Beasley. At the same > time, it ensures that your codependency flows unabated. You mustnt > spank me when I return it. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Yes... Emory University's Web (http://www.cc.emory.edu) is run under NextStep. Currently on a NextCube, we use the NCSA server and it has proven to be fast and reliable. (Our usage is doubling every month. Currently, it is at 100,000 connections per month. We have had no problems thus far.) However, we just purchased an HP 712/80 which will be running NS to be our new main WWW server. Indeed, we probably will be purchasing more HPs et al as Emory is becoming very Web oriented. (We had a blurb in the NY Times a few days ago with Carlos Museum being on the Emory Web.) We used the CERN server for a time, but we moved to NCSA because of the better logging. I have never used the Perl script. Overall, I am very happy with NS and WWW. -- William Morse _____________________________________________________________________ Sysadmin. / Emory Public NeXT NetWork EAGLE / Technical Director WWW / Technical Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <1994Aug9.221301.4178@millennium.com> Keywords: info@farcast.com Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> <3284j8$qi@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 22:13:01 GMT In article <3284j8$qi@rosie.next.com>, David Spitzler writes: > Lusty Wench writes > > In article <325uje$116@rosie.next.com>, > > David Spitzler <david_spitzler@next.com> wrote: > > > > > <stuff about Framemaker deleted> > > >-- > > >David Spitzler > > > > Is it real or is it the automaton? ;-) > > Hmmm...good question. I'm not sure. Maybe ask Jayson. He seems to know > everything ;-) > > David Spitzler The answer is that real or automaton is irrelevant. If it passes the Turing test it's close enough (-: __jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Personal Information Managers/Day Planners? Message-ID: <1994Aug9.205719.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 01:57:19 GMT Anyone have suggestions for a Personal INformation Manager for NS/I? I've seen demos of SBook about - any other competitors? Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Internet Mail Only
From: Duck@Novell.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Novell Connect Problems Date: 10 Aug 1994 01:49:35 GMT Organization: Novell, Inc. Message-ID: <329bnf$grv@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> References: <IiFasg600iV743Zlhl@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <IiFasg600iV743Zlhl@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: ]: Also, make sure you are using the right version of Novell; from what I ]: understand, Novell has switched which Ethernet frames they use in newer ]: versions; I believe that you need to be using 802.3 frames to ]: communicate with a NEXTSTEP machine. (Perhaps someone will confirm ]: this?) Well, I can confirm this is not the case. The NeXT will speak in whichever frame type it sees on the wire. --Duck
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: command line faxing solutions? Date: 9 Aug 1994 19:00:27 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <329cbr$18t@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: >Anybody got any solutions for command line faxing? > >I seem to remember Steve Hayman putting together something? >-- You can actually use lpr -PFax_Modem_Name, assuming that the postscript is formed correctly. For a definition of "Formed correctly", fax a file from WorkSpace and look at the file as it is enqueued. I have something which appends the correct headers to text, but it's not too general. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NEXTSTEP lamont@abstractsoft.com |_____________________________________
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HTTP servers under NeXTstep Date: 9 Aug 1994 19:05:58 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <329cm6$19l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: ncsa,cern,plexus In article <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu writes: > >Howdy! > >Anyone have any experience installing an HTTP server under >NeXTstep? I am looking at Plexus, as it runs under Perl. >Sharing any of your experiences with CERN, NCSA or the Plexus >perl server would be appreciated. We're running a slightly modified NCSA httpd 1.2, it compiled cleanly and hasn't crashed yet. The only reason you might not want to use it is that you can't dump CGI scripts in arbitrary places, they have to be in $HTTPROOT/cgi-bin. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NEXTSTEP lamont@abstractsoft.com | http://www.abstractsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CuAsE4.39L@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CuA192.Kyo@cunews.carleton.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 02:32:26 GMT In article <CuA192.Kyo@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >>David Grindrod (grindrod@embl-heidelberg.de) wrote: >>: Is there a version of X windows for HP NeXTSTEP available yet? >> >>There isn't an HP NeXTSTEP available yet, really. >> This is incorrect according to NeXT telesales. I called yesterday and asked if NEXTSTEP/HP was in full release - to which they responded - yes. You can interpret that any way you want... -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug10.045646.26367@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <siFwURS00UhW82xOVh@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 04:56:46 GMT In article <siFwURS00UhW82xOVh@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 9-Aug-94 Re: X windows for >>HP NeXTSTEP? by Chris Saldanha@mae.carle >>> People are getting way ahead of themselves with this. Surely no >>> developer is going to ship a commercial app for an OS that is not >>> shipping because it is still in beta. One has to be careful that NeXT >>> doesn't change some little thing that breaks their apps. >> >>Agree. >> >>(However, it's not unreasonable for developers to start shipping beta >>versions of their software with the understanding that things may break >>between the beta and final releases of the OS.) >> Except that violates the beta agreement the developers entered into to get the beta release in the first place... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: Re: Sound utils in NS 3.2 Message-ID: <CuA8yw.1AJ@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. References: <326jq8$pun@news.bu.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 19:32:56 GMT In article <326jq8$pun@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > I am looking for what sound utilities exist for nextstep for intel hardware. > Is there some kind of sox wrapper/front end, or any other utilities? I know > that back in the 2.x days the black hardware came with fairly complete music > kits which don't seem to be around anymore. Where can any of this stuff be > ftp'd, assuming it can be? As a matter of fact you can pick up a front end to sox called GISO.app. It's compiled fat for Moto and Intel. Check the archives for it. --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325 dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <325uje$116@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 18:39:38 GMT In article <325uje$116@rosie.next.com> david_spitzler@next.com (David Spitzler) writes: > Chris Saldanha writes > > JacquesGarbi wrote: > > : Hi, > > > > : Is FrameMaker for Intel shipping yet ? > > : If yes, could someone tell me their e-mail address so I can order a > copy ? > > > > Its being sold through Lighthouse. (info@lighthouse.com as I recall) > > > > --Chris > > > FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP for Intel will ship later this month. > > For European inquiries, please contact: > > Frame Technology International Limited > Unit 52 Airways Industrial Estate > Cloghran, Dublin 17 Ireland > 353-1-842-9566 > 353-1-842-9478 fax > > They will be able to refer you to local offices and sales reps. in your > country. > > -- > David Spitzler And what about FRAME for black hardware? Is it so difficult to make fat? Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Message-ID: <1994Aug10.034407.978@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <327qvf$ssc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 03:44:07 GMT My partner raves about DataPhile from Stone Design. She likes it's drawing features - did all our letterheads and graphics for labels with DataPhile. No, it's not Virtuoso, but for a database it's an excellent drawing program. She's out of town and cannot speak for herself right now, but maybe she will post more details later. She mailed a shameless fan letter to Andrew Stone and his team a few weeks ago. DataPhile does an excellent job of whatever it does. When I bought DataPhile it was the only really finished thing out there. I looked at VarioData and it had a lot to offer, but at the time it was not quite a product. I have not seen Xanthus's database but it's probably quite good. If I were buying today I would look at it carefully. Then there's Rosebase and QuickBase; but I've not seen either of those. It's not a relational database; links between files are not possible. I can't have invoice numbers in one file, and pull the customer address from another file, for example. Does not do totals in reports. But it does export to spreadsheet easily. DP's importing and exporting are wonderful. Not multiuser. My favorite database has always been Pick, Unidata, VMark, Revelation, all of which use a similar approach. The key feature is that they allow multi-valued fields, i.e. repeating elements within single fields, and easy definition of multifile relationships, along with a highly intelligible programming language that just let's you do what you want to do without requiring you to have a Ph.D. in programming. It's not for controlling scientific instruments, but it's great for business applications. If some company like Stone, or Xanthus, were to put a NEXTSTEP front end, and application builder, on top of the Unidata database engine, indexing tools, query tools, etc., the result would be spectacular. Leif -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: NCSA Mosaic Makefile changes for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug10.133453.23363@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Mosaic, NeXTSTEP Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:34:53 GMT If anyone happens to know the Makefile changes required to compile NCSA Mosaic for a Nextstation running NS 3.0 and Co-Xist 3.0, please pass them along (via email if possible). I have tried to compile it myself and got the following errors: cd libwww2; make CC=cc RANLIB=/bin/true CFLAGS="-g -DNEXT " cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAccess.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAlert.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAnchor.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAtom.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTSort.c HTSort.c: In function `HTSortSort': HTSort.c:52: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 4 of `qsort' cc -g -DNEXT -c HTChunk.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFTP.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFWriter.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFile.c HTFile.c: In function `HTLoadFile': HTFile.c:1201: `S_IXUSR' undeclared (first use this function) HTFile.c:1201: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once HTFile.c:1201: for each function it appears in.) HTFile.c:1202: `S_IXGRP' undeclared (first use this function) HTFile.c:1203: `S_IXOTH' undeclared (first use this function) *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. Thanks, O --------------------------------------- Oscar Brooks Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov KSC-Mail: oscar.brooks.1@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rit@chp28ab.der.edf.fr ( Jean Francois Rit ) Subject: sonata font Message-ID: <RIT.94Aug10154622@chp28ab.der.edf.fr> Sender: news@edf.fr Organization: Electricite de France, Direction des Etudes et Recherches Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:46:22 GMT How and were do I get the Sonata font ? J-F Rit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: hisaka-h@is.aist-nara.ac.jp (Hisakazu Hada) Subject: Re: HTTP servers under NeXTstep In-Reply-To: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu's message of 9 Aug 1994 17:09:05 GMT Message-ID: <HISAKA-H.94Aug10231319@alpha402.is.aist-nara.ac.jp> Sender: news@newspost.aist-nara.ac.jp (USENET News System) Organization: Nara Institute of Science and Technology References: <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:13:19 GMT Hi. >>>>> On 9 Aug 1994 17:09:05 GMT, penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) said: >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: grasshopper.ucsd.edu >>> Howdy! >>> Anyone have any experience installing an HTTP server under >>> NeXTstep? I am looking at Plexus, as it runs under Perl. >>> Sharing any of your experiences with CERN, NCSA or the Plexus >>> perl server would be appreciated. I've use HTTP-servers in NeXTSTEP. First, I try Plexus perl server. But it isn't good at Many connections. Many time My NeXT is hung-up. Now, I try NCSA httpd Version 1.3 and work good. If your server may be accessed many many users, You shoud use, NCSA server. It is small, light, and work fine. If you are perl-hacker, and your server will not be famous in the world, try Plexus. It is very good at customizing. I think. thanx. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- // $B1)ED5W0l(B $B!J$O$@$R$5$+$:!K(B / << hisaka-h@is.aist-nara.ac.jp >> // $BF`NI@hC<2J3X5;=QBg3X1!Bg3X(B / $B>pJs%M%C%H%o!<%/9V:B(B($B;3K\8&5f<<(B) // WWW-SHiKA is available /URL: http://shika.aist-nara.ac.jp/ -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:56:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32apra$a46@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Aug10.034407.978@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) writes: > My partner raves about DataPhile from Stone Design. She likes it's > drawing features - did all our letterheads and graphics for labels > with DataPhile. I have DataPhile. I also think it's a great flat-file database program. > When I bought DataPhile it was the only really finished thing > out there. I looked at VarioData and it had a lot to offer, but > at the time it was not quite a product. I have not seen Xanthus's > database but it's probably quite good. If I were buying today I > would look at it carefully. Then there's Rosebase and QuickBase; > but I've not seen either of those. I haven't seen Rosebase. Last I knew, it wasn't a shipping product. I have QuickBase too. For some of the things I want to do, QuickBase is a much better tool than DataPhile. For one, it's relational. For two, it's a database engine (so to speak), not a database program. That's great for how I want to do things in some projects. Of course, what's great for me is not necessarily great for everyone else. DataPhile is not a database program. It's not a package for the "end-user", it's a package (or series of packages, really) that are great tools for a developer-type person to use. DataPhile stores the data for you, and then you implement the user-interface you want for that database. It let's you have multiple simultaneous users, and connections to the database engine coming in over the network. Developers out there should note that I'm no database wizard, so instead of trying to figure out what I mean you probably should look at it yourself. If you can receive NeXTmail, you should be able to get a demo by sending a message to sdc_demo@gun.com. It is an auto-reply daemon. Whatever you send it, it's going to send you about ten NeXTmail messages. You could also send a message to sdc@gun.com, in which case you should get an answer from a human being. But back to the topic of this thread, I don't think QuickBase is quite what the person who started this thread was looking for. From what I remember of the original request, DataPhile is probably a better solution for the task. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) Subject: Re: Searching for: Statistics Package Message-ID: <jlemonCuBqyn.JM2@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <8AUG199408103472@acad3.alaska.edu> <Cu8Bw9.2BD@txnews.amd.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:59:11 GMT In article <Cu8Bw9.2BD@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote: >In article <8AUG199408103472@acad3.alaska.edu> fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly >alonzo h) writes: >> I am looking for a good statistics program that will run on the >> NeXT. Something like SPSSx that will support lots of data manipulation, >> reclassing, etc. and handle catagorical data simply. > >SAS runs on the NeXT What about NS/I? -- Jonathan
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 11:36:28 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4iGDDwO00UhBI2ze9A@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug10.045646.26367@news.media.mit.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Aug-94 Re: X windows for HP NeXTSTEP? by Michael B. Johnson@media >>(However, it's not unreasonable for developers to start shipping beta >>versions of their software with the understanding that things may break >>between the beta and final releases of the OS.) > > Except that violates the beta agreement the developers entered into to > get the beta release in the first place... That depends on who your customers are; if they are NS beta testers too (and most active developers are), you can certainly get your stuff out to them. I'm not sure whether performing a public release would violate the terms of the beta release agreement; fortunately, that doesn't affect me. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: madon@didec22.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: popup menus with Emacs for NS 4 Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:30:50 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Message-ID: <32arrb$7vj@disuns2.epfl.ch> I'm trying desperatly to get custom popup menus with emacs for NS. Is there any good soul on the net who can send me some examples or give me an ftp site address with thousands of examples ? Thanks in advance. Dominik ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dominik Madon Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Departement informatique madon@di.epfl.ch madon@eig.unige.ch ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (Gary Kidd) Subject: Is |STAT available for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <CuBr7H.3GF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Keywords: statistics Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:04:28 GMT Can anyone tell me whether there is a version of |STAT available for the Intel version of NS? All I can find is version 5.4, as statPerlman.tar.Z on sonata. Any information about |STAT or similar set of statistics utilities for NS/Intel will be appreciated. -- Gary R. Kidd Department of Speech and Hearing Sciences Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47405 kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Freeware GIF/TIFF Viewer needed for 030 Black Cube Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:36:24 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <32b36o$d0l@netnews.upenn.edu> I am in need of a freeware GIF or TIFF viewer for the original NeXT Computer. The one we have is a 68030 based Cube with only 8 Megs of RAM and limited expansions. It is grayscale. I am having trouble with ImageViewer.app (seems like it is not launching). I think it is optimized for 040 Cubes, so I would like to know the whereabouts of an 030-optimized TIFF/GIF viewer which I could ftp to my site. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Rimon Huque Net Suppt. Specialist, Kean College of NJ Union NJ 07-083 rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu rhuque@turbo.kean.edu huque@bart.kean.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Doug Moore Subject: Re:NNTP News reader beta in csn.announce Message-ID: <CuBz5p.A1J@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 17:55:08 GMT [thousand pardons for posting this] I tried to respond by mail like a good little boy, but it keeps bouncing. Consider this a beta request (plea?). Anything to speed up NewsGrazer. Hey Jayson... Your window of opportunity may have finally closed, I was saving for NG Pro. But now... -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.hp48 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Will trade Image Filter for HP48GX Message-ID: <CuBxnp.q6@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <Cu8CGs.JFC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 17:23:48 GMT I seem to have left off a couple of types that it can load (pbm, pgm). I have written a NeXTStep Image Filter Service, that will convert many different file formats and allow many NeXTStep applications (Mail.app, IconBuilder.app, etc.) to load them just as if they were TIFF or EPS. The current list of formats loadable by my filter: gif Compuserve Graphics Interchange Format gro HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex grob HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex apf Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Picture File gsbin Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Graphics Screen Image pplus Paintworks Packed Super Hi-Res Picture File ast AST VisionEffects Color Data File hp150 HP 150 GWBASIC Binary Screen Image jpg Joint Photographic Expert Group Image (JPEG) pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) I will trade this program for an HP48GX with serial cable. I might even trade for an HP48SX with serial cable. If you are interested in obtaining this filter, email me. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tiff to eps? Date: 10 Aug 1994 18:55:40 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32b7rc$n2s@news.ycc.yale.edu> I'm looking for a way to convert a tiff to an eps image without dumping bitmaps to the printer ("ffffff"). Are there any auto-trace utilities out there besides Illustrator or Virtuoso? Illustrator does have some abilities, but it isn't capturing the detail I had hoped for. Will Virtuoso address these problems? All advice and experience is welcome :-) Thanks, -Anand -- ================================================================== Anand Mehta amehta@minerva.cis.yale.edu Computing Asst. We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the Secret sits in the middle and knows. ==================================================================
From: msiegler@whisper.speech.cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Siegler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISO Theaded NeXT NewsReader Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:05:12 GMT Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, School of Computer Science Message-ID: <32b8d8$ge5@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Anyone have information about a threaded NeXT NewsReader? I am tired of looking at linear lists of postings - something must have a trn-like graphical interface, no?
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word Perfect latest revision? Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:31:44 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32b9v0$nc3@news.ycc.yale.edu> Our copy is version 1.0.1 dated 10 June 1993. It's MAB m68k/intel. I know that WP dropped support for the NEXTSTEP version, but wasn't there going to be one last maintenance release? Does anyone have a later version/release than the above? -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:58:34 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32bbha$m0u@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32apra$a46@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes, in a fit of stupidity: > I have QuickBase too. For some of the things I want to do, QuickBase > is a much better tool than DataPhile. For one, it's relational. For > two, it's a database engine (so to speak), not a database program. > That's great for how I want to do things in some projects. > > Of course, what's great for me is not necessarily great for everyone > else. DataPhile is not a database program. It's not a package for > the "end-user", it's a package (or series of packages, really) that > are great tools for a developer-type person to use. DataPhile stores > the data for you, and then you implement the user-interface you want > for that database. It let's you have multiple simultaneous users, > and connections to the database engine coming in over the network. Major confusion on my part here. This comes from trying to type while talking on the phone and nodding at someone who's standing at my office door and trying to get my attention. Anyway..... The second paragraph is mixed up, of course. *QuickBase* is not a database program. DataPhile *is*. I'd expect end users (who do not need relational databases) would head for DataPhile. I'd expect developers, writing cool stuff, to gravitate more towards QuickBase. I like both of them, and I use the one which is most appropriate to the task at hand. Apologies for the mixup there!!! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sbender@harmony-ds.com (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re:NNTP News reader beta in csn.announce Date: 10 Aug 1994 20:41:10 GMT Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <32be16$p5q@news1.digex.net> References: <CuBz5p.A1J@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CuBz5p.A1J@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > [thousand pardons for posting this] > I tried to respond by mail like a good little boy, but it keeps > bouncing. Consider this a beta request (plea?). Anything to speed > up NewsGrazer. Hey Jayson... Your window of opportunity may have > finally closed, I was saving for NG Pro. But now... > -- > Douglas Moore > St Paul, MN > 612-227-3274 > dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready I'm not sure why you were bounced, But mail to you just bounced back to me. You will be considered as a beta tester. If anyone else gets bounced, post here and I'll add you to the list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Bender | E-Mail: Scott_Bender@harmony-ds.com, or Harmony Data Systems | 76057.653@compuserve.com 2141 Wisconsin Ave. NW Unit 504 | (NeXT-Mail Accepted) Washington, DC 20007 | Voice & Fax: 202-342-1214 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP! Date: 10 Aug 1994 16:38:54 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <32bdsu$cs0@acmex.gatech.edu> I right, I pulled a no-brainer: I was playing around with some of my system directories on my NeXT and managed to wipe out some file in /usr/shlib. This crashed my machine (hard, not even a ping would work). When I came back to it (I was telneting from another machine), I had to pull the plug to get it to power off. Upon attempting a re-boot I get: Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 83, trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 83 I don't have a floppy boot disk or an MO boot disk, but I do have a backup of /usr/shlib on my hard-drive, I just can't get to it. I obviously need to boot from floppy/OD, and I do have access to other NeXT's (running 3.0, I'm running 2.1). How can I make a floppy boot disk and try to bring my system back? Once I get a prompt it'll be trivial to fix it, but I can't get that far. Please e-mail a response, as my net access is now severely limited. Thanks, -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail temporarily offline
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP ME!!! I'M CONFUSED!! Message-ID: <1994Aug10.143213.27940@miavx1> From: cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Date: 10 Aug 94 14:32:13 -0500 Organization: Miami University I am having a problem with getting kermit for 3.2 on a 486. I posted about this about a week ago and some kind souls were nice enough to tell me the ftp sites where I can get it. well the only way that I can get onto the net is through kermit for dos (on my dos partition). my problem is that I can dl kermit for next with no problem, but when i enter nextstep and try to run it all it does is go to editor and gives me a bunch of giberish. now, I could get the source code for it but I have no idea where to find it and also no idea what to do with it once I have it. could someone help me out here?? -Clint
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 11 Aug 1994 01:05:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32btgi$2ss@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> In article <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: > And what about FRAME for black hardware? Is it so difficult to make > fat? FRAME doesn't tend to write software in the NextStep spirit. From what I understand, they wrote their own, slow display instead of using NeXT's display postscript. They don't use normal NeXT scrollers or buttons or the NeXT color panel. Since they use so much non-NextStep code, it is probably hard to hack their code to an new platform. In any case, they certainly don't listen to requests to make their application FAT and portable across NextStep hardware platforms. If you ask them about it, you get some blunt email response which basically indicates that they are ignoring you. I don't think they can be counted on to make a truly NextStep friendly application, nor a FAT application. Who knows, maybe they'll abandon NextStep again. They already did that once. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: how do I install CAP for Mac filesharing? Date: 11 Aug 1994 01:14:48 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32bu28$315@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Has anybody installed the Columbia Appletalk Package (CAP) for Mac filesharing and printing? We have it running on our HPs and DECs here in the lab, and the NeXT is one of the operating systems which the README file says CAP supports. I am not skilled in compiling and installing UNIX utilities, and am unable to get CAP to work. Has anybody else gotten CAP running? I got CAP off of our Stanford net. However, the README file says it is also available by anonymous ftp from: rutgers.EDU src/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*} munnari.OZ.AU mac/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*} gatekeeper.DEC.COM pub/net/appletalk/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*} ftp.kuis.kyoto-u.AC.JP net/cap/{cap60.tar.Z,cap60.patches/*.Z} src.doc.ic.AC.UK mac/multigate/{cap60.tar.Z,cap.patches/*} I can run the Configure script, but when I then try to run gen.makes, I get a lot of "bad directory" errors. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu P.S. I'm running NextStep 3.2 on black hardware.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) Subject: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ? Message-ID: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de> Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 01:12:31 GMT Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT tapes) Does anyone know anything about this ? Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ? Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all) Eike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rmj@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones) Subject: MS Word 4 Windows via SoftPC? Message-ID: <CuCMB0.2Iw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 02:16:11 GMT Dear Users, Anyone used SoftPc running MSWordfor windows? Is it slow or usable? Is it straightforward to setup and attach NeXT (black) printers to MS Word? I would be very grateful for any experiences users may be able to relate. Many thanks. -- Yours, Roger Jones (rmj@llewelyn.slac.stanford.edu) -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$W,CA<='@S-#4V7'1X-3$X-%QT M>#8Y,3)<='@X-C0P7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,C`Y-5QT>#$S.#(T7'1X,34U-3)< M='@Q-S(X,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,S-EQF8S!<8V8P($1E87(@57-E M<G,L7`I<"D%N>6]N92!U<V5D(%-O9G108R!R=6YN"FEN"F<@35-7;W)D9F]R M('=I;F1O=W,_7`I)<R!I="!S;&]W(&]R('5S86)L93\@7`I)<R!I="!S=')A M:6=H=&9O<G=A<F0@=&\@<V5T=7`@86YD"B!A='1A8VA<"DYE6%0@*&)L86-K M*2!P<FEN=&5R<R!T;R!-4R!7;W)D/UP*22!W;W5L9"!B92!V97)Y(&=R871E M9G5L(&9O<B!A;GD@97AP97)I96YC97-<"G5S97)S(&UA>2!B92!A8FQE('1O M(')E;&%T90HN7`I<"DUA;GD@=&AA;FMS+EP*7`HM+5P*66]U<G,L7`I<"E)O M9V5R($IO;F5S7`HH<FUJ0&QL97=E;'EN+G-L86,N<W1A;F9O<F0N961U*0I] !"F5R `
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Date: 11 Aug 1994 00:01:33 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <32bm8d$4q5@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <sandrac-080894150915@port45.annex1.net.ubc.ca> <327qvf$ssc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: >yes, I love DataPhile v2.1 from Stone Design! >better marketing, it was the only one I had heard of when I bought it, and >I'm glad I bought it. So you never had the possibility to compare VarioData and DataPhile. I don't want to tell which one is better - I looked at the Demos and found VarioData more sophisticated - but despite I don't like Micr*s*ft at all, there's no DB as cool as MS Access in the NeXTSTEP world - what a pity! Of course, there's DBKit and EOF. But I'm not a real programmer, however I was able to set up sort of a MCCA for a small print shop on top of Access within one week. That's the time I needed to understand the pure basics of OO-programming. Just my $.02. Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: HTTP servers under NeXTstep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <328d7h$6mg@network.ucsd.edu> <HISAKA-H.94Aug10231319@alpha402.is.aist-nara.ac.jp> Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 07:46:56 GMT Message-ID: <CuD1M9.Ers@news2.new-york.net> Use gn-2.04 available from ftp.uu.net It roqs. -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP ME!!! I'M CONFUSED!! Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 04:31:40 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AiGS7ge00iV8M0g3AP@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug10.143213.27940@miavx1> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Aug-94 HELP ME!!! I'M CONFUSED!! by cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muo > my problem is that I can dl > kermit for next with no problem, but when i enter nextstep and try to run > it all it does is go to editor and gives me a bunch of giberish. Try 'chmod +x kermit' to indicate to the system that it is an executable program. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Subject: PPP and using -NXHost?????? Message-ID: <CuD2vz.Bx@nosloc.com> Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 08:14:22 GMT I am having troubles getting -NXHost to work over a PPP line. Does anyone know of any catches that I may be overlooking? I have public window sever turned on and all other network commands (ftp,login,ping) work as expected. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, =derek -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com NST --> NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs for NS and TeXmenu Date: 11 Aug 1994 09:16:02 GMT Organization: University of Tuebingen Message-ID: <32cq8i$fca@wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Hi, I use TeXmenu.app for processing TeX documents and I love using emacs with AUCtex for editing TeX documents (I know, I know that I can use emacs for TeXing my documents - but I don't want to. TeXmenu has many features I don't want to loose). The problem is, I cannot convince TeXmenu to use Emacs for NS. There is this preferences panel where I can specify the editor to use - fine. The editor entry shows up in the defaults database - fine. But whenever I want to edit a file by double-clicking it in TeXmenu, there is this message on the console "unable to start emacs" (not the exact words) and nothing happens. Funny thing is that when I have an emacs open as root (using OpenSesame) the buffer containing my file is opened _there_. Any hints on what I'm doing wrong ? Bye, Harald --- Harald Lauer Those health nuts will look Wilhelm-Schickard Institut fuer Informatik stupid someday, lying in Universitaet Tuebingen hospital dying of nothing.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Postscript Problem Message-ID: <1994Aug10.132909.740@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:29:09 GMT I pulled a file that was created in Quark and is now a postscript file from an archive site. Preview did not like it, so I opened it in edit. I do not know anything about postscript, but the document had no whitespace between lines. In other words, it was one long string. THe head is as follows: %!PS-Adobe-2.0%%Title: Lite.User.Guide.Finallest!%%Creator: PrintMonitor %%CreationDate: Friday, May 27, 1994%%Pages: (atend)%%BoundingBox: ? ? ? ?%%PageBoundingBox: 30 31 582 761%%For: david%%DocumentProcSets: "(AppleDict md)" 71 0%% Copyright Apple Computer, Inc. 1989-92 All Rights Reserved.%%EndComments% Is this normal. If it is not, is there a way that I can get it to be usable? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: DFAX Message-ID: <CuDErt.CxH@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 12:31:02 GMT My hard disk crashed and I lost my DFAX Software. Can someone tell me the mail adress of the people who made DFAX so I can get myself a new copy? Thanks. Odisseas -- "Anger, fear, agression. The Dark Side are they." -- Yoda, Jedi master
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Postscript Problem Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 09:56:03 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QiGWrn600iV8I27Jhq@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug10.132909.740@weston.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Aug-94 Postscript Problem by Wes Spears@weston.com > I pulled a file that was created in Quark and is now a postscript file > from an archive site. Preview did not like it, so I opened it in edit. I > do not know anything about postscript, but the document had no whitespace > between lines. In other words, it was one long string. THe head is as > follows: The PostScript file probably has CR's (\015) instead of LF's (\012). Do a global search-replace in an editor or use _tr_ to fix this.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: gshaw@gpl.com (George Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WAIStation.app for NSIP Date: 11 Aug 1994 14:38:08 GMT Organization: Genesis Project Ltd, Belfast, Northern Ireland Message-ID: <32dd4g$ia5@errigle.gpl.net> Help Has any one an idea as to whether WAIStation.app is available for Intel. I have version 1.9.3 and have tried to compile on Intel with no luck. Can I FTP it from someware? Omniweb does not seem to support WAIS (yet).. -- -- George Shaw (Managing Director) GENESIS PROJECT Ltd "INTERPOINT" International Trade Centre Belfast 20-24 York Street Belfast Ni
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Message-ID: <1994Aug11.135746.5197@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Mosaic, NeXT Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:57:46 GMT Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details if possible. Thanks, O --------------------------------------- Oscar Brooks Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov KSC-Mail: oscar.brooks.1@ksc.nasa.gov NASA, Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Date: 11 Aug 1994 11:09:36 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <32devg$6qu@shiva.UU.NET> References: <1994Aug11.135746.5197@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Mosaic, NeXT In article <1994Aug11.135746.5197@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>, obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) writes: > > >Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version >of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details >if possible. > >Thanks, > >O > >--------------------------------------- >Oscar Brooks Well, it's not a Mosaic perse, but it is an HTML viewer. It's call OmniWeb and does basically what I think you are looking for. You can find it either on the OmniWeb people's site (whose name eludes me) or cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/wide-area-info. -- ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.acc-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccoffin@slate.mines.colorado.edu ( 3032799202) Subject: Re: Word Perfect latest revision? Message-ID: <1994Aug11.142037.34094@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:20:37 GMT References: <32b9v0$nc3@news.ycc.yale.edu> Organization: Colorado School of Mines Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote: : Our copy is version 1.0.1 dated 10 June 1993. It's MAB : m68k/intel. : I know that WP dropped support for the NEXTSTEP version, but : wasn't there going to be one last maintenance release? : Does anyone have a later version/release than the above? : -- Yes, there was that came out earlier this year with some minor fixes, but no new functionality. ccoffin@mines.colorado.edu
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FTP sites? Date: 11 Aug 1994 15:46:16 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA USA Message-ID: <32dh48$7re@news.intercon.com> Hi, I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one in Europe. Thanks, David. P.S. I'm also looking for a termios package, so if you know where one of those is, please let me know!
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Corel Draw equiv for NeXTStep? Date: 11 Aug 1994 18:21:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <32dq6p$i8a@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> We have a '040 Color NeXTStation, and we're looking for an "equivalent" program to that of Corel Draw for msdos machines. Any information is appreciated. Email is preferred, if there's any interest, I'll post a summary. Thanks! -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu or root@tap.colum.fnet.org : :Call The Atomic Playground BBS 614-297-7031 24/96/14.4/16.8/21.6/28.8k DS HST: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 11 Aug 1994 23:15:58 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> <32btgi$2ss@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: >FRAME doesn't tend to write software in the NextStep spirit. From what I >understand, they wrote their own, slow display instead of using NeXT's >display postscript. They don't use normal NeXT scrollers or buttons or >the NeXT color panel. Since they use so much non-NextStep code, it is >probably hard to hack their code to an new platform. Wrong. Where do you get your information from? William Shipley from Omni who was involved in the port told several times that the port to Intel was pretty easy. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MS Word 4 Windows via SoftPC? Date: 11 Aug 1994 23:18:06 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <32e82u$62j@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CuCMB0.2Iw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rmj@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones) writes: >Anyone used SoftPc running MSWordfor windows? SoftPC for Intel or for Motorola??? -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: SoftPC, Banyan Vines, and Token Ring Sender: usenet@lexmark.com Message-ID: <CuE6nv.GCB@lexmark.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:33:30 GMT Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY Name a slow emulation, a protocol stack perturbation and a 16 Mb denomination... OK, now minus the Johnny Carson imitation, I have a document from Insignia saying that Vines can run over ethernet on SoftPC, but no support for TR. Could I request a collective moment of thought for the best solution to this dilemna? Thank you, you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming... Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com
From: jburne@panix.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTcube on an AppleTalk network? Date: 11 Aug 1994 20:22:04 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <32efbc$8hc@panix.com> References: <32485g$sst@search01.news.aol.com> <325ba0$fif@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In article <325ba0$fif@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Matt 'Well you neednt' Davis <mrossd@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu> wrote: >MuDog (mudog@aol.com) wrote: >: In a few weeks I'll be off to college. The college I'm attending offers >: Internet access by way of a Mac LocalTalk network and a VAX system. If >: (stuff deleted..) >It has been my understanding that one can purchase a set of Macintosh ROMs >which SCSI to the NeXTbox - I don't know if this makes any difference with >networking though. (more stuff deleted...) The Mac ROM's refered to above is a product called "Daydream". They do support networking via ethertalk but they don't do localtalk. I've used the Daydream product all summer, it's extremely solid and I recommend it highly.
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 11 Aug 1994 15:04:53 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <32e7a5$7rv@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> <32btgi$2ss@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken writes: >FRAME doesn't tend to write software in the NextStep spirit. If you make an app too NEXTSTEPy, Frame for X, MS-Windows, and Mac users will complain because they need to retrain to use it under NEXTSTEP. They can't win. For the record, I think Frame's font panel kicks butt all over NeXT's. Why should they downgrade? >They don't use normal NeXT scrollers or buttons or >the NeXT color panel. You're just wrong about the scrollers and buttons. And there was no color panel when Frame came out. >Since they use so much non-NextStep code, it is >probably hard to hack their code to an new platform. Nope, it wasn't. >In any case, they >certainly don't listen to requests to make their application FAT and >portable across NextStep hardware platforms. All Frame has said is, "We're not commiting to anything except Frame for Intel." Your speculation is pointless. -Wil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: GTools Message-ID: <dgursky.776615392@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:29:52 GMT Whenever I try and launch GTool, I get a series of error panels that refer to "Missing Class", one panel for each GTool module I am trying to load. Not surprisingly, none of the GTool modules I try to load are available. Any clues? -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Quality Systems, Incorporated e-mail: .. dgursky@andi.org 4000 Legato Road voice: .... (703) 352-9200 Fairfax, VA 22033 fax: .... (703) 352-9216
From: me@skink.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: cmsg cancel <ME.94Aug7122036@skink.uwa.edu.au> Control: cancel <ME.94Aug7122036@skink.uwa.edu.au> Date: 12 Aug 1994 03:29:53 GMT Organization: Centre for Linguistics, UWA, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <ME.94Aug12112953@skink.uwa.edu.au> -- ---- Jim Blevins jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Centre for Linguistics phone: +61-9-380-1882 University of Western Australia fax: +61-9-380-1154 Nedlands, W.A. 6009
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Postscript Problem Message-ID: <1994Aug11.184729.867@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1994Aug10.132909.740@weston.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 18:47:29 GMT In article <1994Aug10.132909.740@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: ~> I pulled a file that was created in Quark and is now a postscript ~> file from an archive site. Preview did not like it, so I opened ~> it in edit. I do not know anything about postscript, but the ~> document had no whitespace between lines. In other words, it ~> was one long string. The head is as follows: ~> ~> %!PS-Adobe-2.0^M%%Title: Lite.User.Guide.Finallest!^M%%Creator: ~> PrintMonitor^M%%CreationDate: Friday, May 27, 1994^M%%Pages: ~> (atend)^M%%BoundingBox: ? ? ? ?^M%%PageBoundingBox: 30 31 582 ~> 761^M%%For: david^M%%DocumentProcSets: "(AppleDict md)" 7 [snip] ~> Is this normal. If it is not, is there a way that I can get it to be ~> usable? ~> ~> Thanks ~> Wes Wes, What you have is some common Apple PostScript with \r only for newlines. The PostScript standard defines any of: \r \n \r\n and as I recall \n\r (but I could be wrong on this one) as newline sequences. There are other "errors in the PostScript" such as the question-marked document bounding box, but what the app itself is choking on is too-long of strings as it attempts to parse lines to find page boundaries. Running it through tr to convert all ^M's to ^J's should make it managable, or through any of the handy-dandie inter-system conversion aids that do the same thing. Bruce Gingery Total System Sofware Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME mail welcome
From: xcohen@garnet.berkeley.edu (Alexander J. Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.graphics Subject: Looking for Image Processing Software from Pacific Rim Date: 12 Aug 1994 06:29:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <32f4ri$ebo@agate.berkeley.edu> Does anyone know of any image processing applications, from retouching software to general image processing, which has been developed in the pacific rim area? It's seems to me unlikely that the only ones are from either the US or Europe. Any help will be most appreciated. Please send messages directly back to my address. Thanks. --Alex Cohen UC Berkeley xcohen@garnet.berkeley.edu Editor of CinemaSpace, http://remarque.berkeley.edu:8001/~xcohen/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: VirtSpace---Where to get it !!!! Message-ID: <CuECzo.LvI@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 00:50:12 GMT NYROtechnix has picked up distribution of VirtSpace, so it is very much alive. Contact: ian_stewart@nyro.com for information. Cheers!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Message-ID: <CuEDH3.Lx5@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 01:00:39 GMT I'm just another flat-file DB user who uses FFDBs to massage chaotic data into useful entities. DataPhile is a really useful application which makes life much, much easier and is mostly what the doctor ordered. I use DataPhile more than any other application, and even my host of volunteers and interns find it easy to use, though they may have never touched a computer before. (Will these people be shocked if they ever have to use a non-NeXTSTEP computer, or what!) Anyway, flat-file DBs are very useful, like a tractor to a farmer or hammer/nailgun to a captenter, and of course DataPhile is a king of them. And did anyone mention that the Stone.folks are pretty responsive and postive humans? Robert MacKimmie -just a NeXTdude rm@califhistsoc.org
From: kcarroll@u.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Corel Draw equiv for NeXTStep? Date: 12 Aug 1994 15:56:01 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <32g62h$gvm@news.u.washington.edu> References: <32dq6p$i8a@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <32dq6p$i8a@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes: > We have a '040 Color NeXTStation, and we're looking for an > "equivalent" program to that of Corel Draw for msdos > machines. > > Any information is appreciated. Email is preferred, if > there's any interest, I'll post a summary. > > Thanks! Well, it's not low end like corel draw, but you might want to get Virtuoso 2.0 (Altsys). Kris Carroll
From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Bad boot floppy - where to... Date: 12 Aug 1994 10:12:49 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <32gaih$1qg@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> My boot floppy for Nextstep Intel 3.2 is unreadable. Where I can I download a new one? Please e-mail if possible. thganks, Bill -- Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu Still confused about bitrates and nitrates. 310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax)
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP ME!!! I'M CONFUSED!! Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:36:53 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <64551.seins@fox.nstn.ca> To: cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu On 10 Aug 94 14:32:13 -0500, cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu <cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote: >I am having a problem with getting kermit for 3.2 on a 486. I posted about >this about a week ago and some kind souls were nice enough to tell me the ftp >sites where I can get it. well the only way that I can get onto the net is >through kermit for dos (on my dos partition). my problem is that I can dl >kermit for next with no problem, but when i enter nextstep and try to run it >all it does is go to editor and gives me a bunch of giberish. now, I could get >the source code for it but I have no idea where to find it and also no idea >what to do with it once I have it. could someone help me out here?? >-Clint Clint, try going into the inspector panel, and changing the app permissions and turn on execute for owner, group, and other. This should make NeXTStep understand that this is an executable file, and not a text file. Since DOS does not do this, you usually have to change the bits manually. I hope this helps. Steve MacDougall -- Police Data Automation Command | We'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Research and Development Centre | our computer currently has | different ideas. SEINS | ASCII-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:15:36 GMT ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. -- Lance Norskog thinman@netcom.com Artisputtingtogether. Art s th ow n aw y.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: NS/Intel Developer install problem. Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:32:33 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug12.153233.23666@bilver.oau.org> Well I just brought NS/I up over the weekend, and again yesterday ( re-install for various reasons). I then started to install the developer package. It would chug along for about 10 minutes and while copying the file /lib/m68k/cc1obj it would die. Error message was cat: write error: bad address directory checksum error (3394 != 30721). I tried 3 times and 3 times it failed in the same place. Hardware is a 90MHz Pentium, Adaptec 1542CF controller, Quantum Empire 1.08 G drive, 16MB memory. Drive checks out - it appears. The error message does say 'write error' so it looks to me like hardware. It put about 850k of file on the disk. Opinions? Ideas? Even though it says 'write error' and gives a non compare - where does it get the orignal data from. Could there be a CD problem? Is there a way to circument the install program as a workaround and not use the file. eg Modify the install to continue instead of abort? A newbie NeXTStep person would like to know. Bill p.s. I'm Unix oriented so it looks familiar - not a DOS person getting in over their head :-) Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music notation software for the NeXT? Date: 12 Aug 1994 17:34:44 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <32gptk$7rc@shiva.UU.NET> Does anyone know of any software that lets you place notes on a staff for music transcription or composition? I just want to place notes and hear them, not go through cryptic alogrythms to create music... -- ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.acc-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Opener App doesn't like postscript files Message-ID: <1994Aug12.130926.2175@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:09:26 GMT I was able to open any .ps file by clicking on it and the viewer would open it up. But ever since I have installed the opener application (which works great otherwise) my .ps files no longer open from the workspace. When the .ps file is launched from the workspace, I get a message saying could not open file and it's path. I looked at the filetype in the opener app for a conflict with the .ps sufix but couldn't find any. Any ideas? thanks Harry
From: root@serenitatis.velocity.com (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TransSys PNI 1.9b Date: 12 Aug 1994 22:17:53 GMT Organization: Minnesota Regional Network Message-ID: <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> Keywords: Transsys pni Is anybody else out there running TransSys pni 1.9 beta? If so do you happen to know how to get an upgrade or a new registration key? On Sunday August 14th my key runs out. I've tried to contact TransSys, but have received no answer. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael Lemire mikel@velocity.com (612)936-9484 ext. 14
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener App doesn't like postscript files Date: 12 Aug 1994 23:39:21 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <32h179$ds2@news.duke.edu> References: <1994Aug12.130926.2175@cs.rit.edu> In article <1994Aug12.130926.2175@cs.rit.edu>, Harry E Noel <hen1580@cs.rit.edu> wrote: >I was able to open any .ps file by clicking on it and the >viewer would open it up. But ever since I have installed the >opener application (which works great otherwise) my .ps files >no longer open from the workspace. > >When the .ps file is launched from the workspace, I get a message saying >could not open file and it's path. > >I looked at the filetype in the opener app for a conflict with the .ps sufix >but couldn't find any. > >Any ideas? Yes--ask me. :-) This is a known bug in Opener v3.1.3a, and it will be fixed in the next release. In the meantime, the workaround is to set the default application for .ps and .eps files to be something besides Opener, probably Preview. You can do this from the Workspace Tools Inspector. Let me know if you need more detail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Has anybody got Fiend 1.0 to tile images? Date: 12 Aug 1994 12:33:06 +0100 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <32fmli$vk@steffi.demon.co.uk> -- "Use the source Luke!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: sonata font Message-ID: <1994Aug11.214019.5559@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <RIT.94Aug10154622@chp28ab.der.edf.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 21:40:19 GMT In article <RIT.94Aug10154622@chp28ab.der.edf.fr> rit@chp28ab.der.edf.fr ( Jean Francois Rit ) writes: * How and were do I get the Sonata font ? We [Trilithon Software] are an authorised Adobe re-seller and can supply fonts in NEXTSTEP format. Write To: Trilithon Software, 3000 Alpine Road, Portola Valley, California 94028. Telephone: (415) 851-7901 FAX: (415) 851-7902 E-mail: info@trilithon.com ........ Henry
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Date: 12 Aug 1994 23:21:57 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <32he8l$fj9@acmex.gatech.edu> I'm sorry if this was already asked, but I've been off-line the past couple of days, and I think I missed the discussion: I'm using OmniWeb, freshly downloaded.. I've put OmniFilter services under LocalLibrary/Services.. but I can't seem to get any graphics to show up. The graphics box shows up, but then it puts a circle with a line through it. I'm using NS3.1, black. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail temporarily offline
Control: cancel <1994Aug12.153233.23666@bilver.oau.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: cancel Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 00:01:00 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug13.000100.1633@bilver.oau.org> <1994Aug12.153233.23666@bilver.oau.org> was cancelled from within trn. -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: NS/Intel Developer install problem. Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 00:00:03 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug13.000003.1550@bilver.oau.org> References: <1994Aug12.153233.23666@bilver.oau.org> In article <1994Aug12.153233.23666@bilver.oau.org>, Bill Vermillion <bill@bilver.oau.org> wrote: I wrote - >Well I just brought NS/I up over the weekend, and again >yesterday ( re-install for various reasons). > >I then started to install the developer package. It would chug >along for about 10 minutes and while copying the file >/lib/m68k/cc1obj it would die. Thanks to the power of the net again and the email. CD-ROM was a triple speed NEC. One respondant suggested try slowing it down if possible (not possible) as he had a similar problem at the exact point in the same file. I turned of fast SCSI on the controller and things went flawlessly. (The libraries are installing right now as I type this - on another machine of course). Previous article has been canceled. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: (slugg jello) Subject: Public domain ftp for PCs Message-ID: <1994Aug13.021612.617@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com> Sender: slugg@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com Organization: Mouthing Flowers Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 02:16:12 GMT I have ethernet hardware for my DOS/Windows 486 PC, but no software to enable it to talk to my NeXT. Anyone know of public domain TCP/IP software for the DOS/Windows PC that will give me ftp or maybe even NFS capability? Thanks. Doug Kent Mouthing Flowers, Inc. slugg@mouthers.wa.com -- Doug Kent Mouthing Flowers, Inc. slugg@mouthers.wa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: command line faxing solutions? Message-ID: <1994Aug12.202604.9995@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <329cbr$18t@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:26:04 GMT In article <329cbr$18t@zebu.abstractsoft.com> zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) writes: > In article <ROBERT.94Aug8100651@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > >Anybody got any solutions for command line faxing? > > > >I seem to remember Steve Hayman putting together something? > >-- > You can actually use lpr -PFax_Modem_Name, assuming that the postscript > is formed correctly. For a definition of "Formed correctly", fax a file from > WorkSpace and look at the file as it is enqueued. I have something which > appends the correct headers to text, but it's not too general. Here is Steve Hayman's <shayman@Objectario.com> /bin/sh version of a command-line faxing utility for NEXTSTEP. --------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # fax # Command-line faxing of text files. # # Use: # fax -p phonenumber [-f] [-t to] [-c coversheet] [-m faxmodem] [-s sender] [file...] # # Options: # -p phonenumber Phone number to send this fax to # -f Filter. Send the postscript to stdout, don't fax it. # -t to Recipient's name - will be written on cover sheet # -c coversheet Name of a cover sheet to use (e.g. "MyCover.draw") # (Default is "dread System FaxCoverFile") # -C No cover sheet, text only # -m faxmodem Which fax modem to use # (Default is "dread System Fax" - the last one you used) # -s sender Sender's name - will be written on cover sheet # file... Text Files to be converted to postscript and faxed. # Standard input will be faxed if no files specified. # # # TODO # Position the cover sheet fields properly. (They're currently bottom-aligned, # should be top-aligned.) # Prompt user for commandline parameters if not specified. # Options for hi-res, notify, trim. # Option for deferred faxing. (%%NXDeferredUntil: YYYYMMDDHHMM) # Options to be passed through to 'enscript' to allow different formatting # of the text files. # Ability to fax a postscript file. # Allow adding comments to the cover sheet. # (Perhaps allow having all the text go in the Comments: area, for a # quick one-page fax.) # Multiple recipients. # Get recipient names and numbers from the user's address book. # Figure out how to do this using pipes only, without temp files. # Convince everyone to get 'perl' so I can go back to my simpler perl version. # # The first version of this script was written in Perl and was # considerably cleaner - but, well, not everybody has perl. # Hence this clumsier "multi-architecture" shell script. # # Suggestions or fixes are most welcome. # # Steve Hayman # shayman@Objectario.com # July 7 1993 # # $Log: fax,v $ # Revision 0.13 93/07/14 00:21:47 shayman # fix some quoting problems. # i don't want to release any more /bin/sh versions of this! everybody # should have perl. grr. # # Revision 0.12 93/07/12 00:59:48 shayman # Check %%Pages properly in the enscript output # # Revision 0.11 93/07/12 00:41:49 shayman # More minor changes. This is getting ugly. # # Revision 0.10 93/07/12 00:13:10 shayman # Reorganized to put the fax cover sheet first. Could still cut down # on this a lot. # # Revision 0.9 93/07/11 18:42:50 shayman # Fix a couple of minor syntactical errors # # Revision 0.8 93/07/08 00:50:13 shayman # First version that seems to work. # PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH Pname=`basename $0` # Make a temp directory to hold some scratch files. tmpdir=/tmp/fax.$$ mkdir $tmpdir trap exit 1 2 3 15 trap 'rm -rf $tmpdir' 0 # Some variables that you can't change at the moment but which might # be command line options in the next version. faxNotify=YES faxHires=YES faxTrim=YES # Get some useful defaults. # redirect stderr on these dreads so they don't complain when a default # isn't found. faxModem=`dread System Fax 2>/dev/null | awk '{print $3}'` useCoverSheet=1 coverSheet=`dread System FaxCoverFile 2>/dev/null | awk '{print $3}'` case "$coverSheet" in "") coverSheet=Cover ;; esac # Default sender name is our own user name. # What's the best way to do a getpwent($USER) in a shell script? hmm. # Perhaps # sender=`nidump passwd / | awk -F: '$1 == "'$USER'" { print $5 } '` # but who knows if this user is defined in the / domain. # # Well here is one way. (Assuming you haven't replaced the stock finger prog.) sender=`finger $USER | sed -e 's/.*In real life: //' -e 1q` # # parse cmdline options # Usage="Usage: $Pname -p phonenumber [-t to] [-c cover] [-m modem] [-s sender] file..." while test $# -gt 0; do case $1 in -p) shift; phoneNumber=${1?$Usage} ;; -t) shift; to=${1?$Usage} ;; -c) shift; coverSheet=${1?$Usage} ;; -m) shift; faxModem=${1?$Usage} ;; -s) shift; sender=${1?$Usage} ;; -f) filterOnly=1 ;; -C) useCoverSheet=0 ;; -*) echo $Usage 1>&2 ; exit 1 ;; *) break ;; esac shift done # # Must have at least a phone number. The other options, we don't care. # case "$phoneNumber" in "") echo "$Pname: Must specify a phone number." 1>&2 echo $Usage 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac # # Must also have a fax modem in mind. # case "$faxModem" in "") echo "$Pname: No fax modem specified." 1>&2 echo $Usage 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac # # OK. # Anything left on the command line is a file to be faxed; if no files # specified, we will fax standard input. # # Track down the cover sheet. # todo: could look in other language directories for dir in ~/Library/Fax /LocalLibrary/Fax /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj; do if test -d $dir/$coverSheet; then coverDir=$dir/$coverSheet fi done case "$useCoverSheet" in 0) ;; *) case "$coverDir" in "") echo "$Pname: Couldn't find cover sheet named '$coverSheet'." 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac ;; esac # Now enscript the files specified on the command line to convert them # to postscript. Append the Fax comments after line 1 # # Enscript's output looks like this... # # %!PS-Adobe-3.0 # ... various enscript header things # %%Pages: (atend) # %%Page: ? 1 # StartPage # ... postscript for page 1 # EndPage # %%Page: ? 2 # StartPage # ... postscript for page 2 # EndPage # %%Trailer # end # %%Pages: 2 # # So, we copy everything until we see the %%Trailer line, then add # one more page by appending the fax cover sheet, and then we output # our own %%Trailer, end and %%Pages line (incrementing the Pages # value by one.) # # The fax comments are added after the first line. ens=$tmpdir/enscriptOutput # # Run enscript here to convert the text files (or stdin) to postscript. # Save the output in $ens # enscript -l -q -p $ens $* # # And we have to take a peek to see how many pages were created, so that # we can fill in the Pages: field in the cover sheet properly. # Pages=`grep '%%Pages: [0123456789]' $ens | awk '{print $2}'` Pages=`expr $Pages + 1` # # Now the (optional) cover sheet construction begins. # case "$useCoverSheet" in 0) myCoverSheet=/dev/null ;; *) # Put together a cover sheet with the appropriate boxes filled in. # $coverDir/form.eps is a background file; $coverDir/form.info is a list # of field names and coordinates. myCoverSheet=$tmpdir/CoverSheet.eps cat $coverDir/form.eps >$myCoverSheet # This awk script reads the form.info file, and the variables we want, # and outputs the appropriate postscript (appended to the CoverSheet.eps # file.) ( echo Date=`date` echo Pages=$Pages echo From=$sender echo To=$to ) | awk >>$myCoverSheet ' # These offset values for some reason cause the fields # to line up better. (Determined by trial and error) BEGIN { XOffset = 0; YOffset = 5 } /Page Size:/ { next } /Entry:/ { entry = $2; next } /Font:/ { Font[entry] = $2; next } /Font Size:/ { FontSize[entry] = $3; next } /Text Gray:/ { TextGray[entry] = $3; next } # Location: x = 104, y = 596, w = 419, h = 18 /Location:/ { # damn commas X[entry] = substr($4, 1, length($4) - 1) Y[entry] = substr($7, 1, length($7) - 1) W[entry] = substr($10, 1, length($10) - 1) H[entry] = $13 next } # Anything below here with an = sign represents the variables we # stuffed into awk, i.e. "To=the recipient name" /\=/ { split($0, a, "=") fieldName=a[1] fieldValue=a[2] printf "%f %f moveto\n", X[fieldName] + XOffset, Y[fieldName] + YOffset printf "%s setgray\n", TextGray[fieldName] printf "/%s findfont %s scalefont setfont\n", Font[fieldName], FontSize[fieldName] printf "(%s) show\n", fieldValue } END { print "showpage\n" } ' $coverDir/form.info - ;; esac # This awk script puts everything together. # Read the enscript output, insert various things (%%NXFax comments, # the cover sheet) in the right spots. # Adjust the %%Page: comments as needed. # # Note that we take advantage of an awk feature not documented in # the man page: you can put VAR=VALUE on the commandline to set variables. # We do this to get the values for phoneNumber, faxNotify and so on into # the awk script so that we can output them as part of the header. awk ' NR == 1 { # Output a postscript header, including # the NXFax variables. print "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" print "%% These variables set by the fax shell script." print "%%NXFaxVersion: 300" print "%%NXFaxNumber:", phoneNumber print "%%NXFaxTo:", to print "%%NXFaxNotify:", faxNotify print "%%NXFaxHires:", faxHires print "%%NXFaxTrim:", faxTrim } # # Skip this header line, since we printed it out above. # /^%!PS-Adobe/ { next } # # Gobble up and save away all the lines of the cover file so we # can write it out again later part way through the enscript document. # FILENAME == coverSheet { Cover[coverLine++] = $0; next } # # Below this point, we know we are looking at the enscript document. # # # When we see %%EndSetup, that is our cue to output the cover page. # (If there was one - if coverLine is 0, we had a 0-length cover sheet, # meaning we do not want a cover sheet.) /^%%EndSetup/ { print if ( coverLine ) { print "%%Page: ? 1" for ( i = 0; i < coverLine; i++ ) { print Cover[i] } } next } # # Whenever we see a page number, add 1 to it to account for the cover sheet # (if there was one.) /^%%Page: / { if ( coverLine ) { actualPage = $3 + 1 print $1, $2, actualPage next } } # # Similarly, the %%Pages: n header at the end needs to be incremented. # (but check for a digit so we are not looking at %%Pages: (atend) /^%%Pages: / { if ( coverLine ) { if ( $2 ~ /[0123456789]/ ) { print $1 ($2 + 1) } else { print } next } } # # Anything else must just be a line in the enscript document, so print it. # { print } # note that the next 6 lines are actually variables that we are passing # to awk on the command line, so they must be quoted properly to preserve # spaces. # (and we then hand it two real files, $myCoverSheet and $ens) ' phoneNumber="$phoneNumber" \ to="$to" \ faxNotify="$faxNotify" \ faxHires="$faxHires" \ faxTrim="$faxTrim" \ coverSheet="$myCoverSheet" \ $myCoverSheet $ens \ | case "$filterOnly" in 1) cat ;; *) lpr -P$faxModem ;; esac exit 0 --------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------------ Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Perfect latest revision? Date: 13 Aug 1994 01:57:55 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <23104.seins@fox.nstn.ca> To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu On 10 Aug 1994 19:31:44 GMT, Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote: >Our copy is version 1.0.1 dated 10 June 1993. It's MAB >m68k/intel. > >I know that WP dropped support for the NEXTSTEP version, but >wasn't there going to be one last maintenance release? > >Does anyone have a later version/release than the above? > >-- >Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 >Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 >Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu >Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy" What you have (Version 1.0.1) *IS* the maintenance release. There will be no further releases of WP for NS, and support will be dropped all together as of January 1995. Steve MacDougall -- Police Data Automation Command | We'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Research and Development Centre | our computer currently has | different ideas. SEINS | ASCII-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: FTP sites? Message-ID: <CuGIpx.8D4@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <32dh48$7re@news.intercon.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 04:49:08 GMT David Casti (disc@vector.casti.com) wrote: : I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have : is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one : in Europe. Glad you asked, David. I have started assembling my Intel-based system for NS, and hope to be up and running late next week. Looked through my list and came up with a few that I think I'll check out as well: akbar.cac.washington.edu cica.cica.indiana.edu csus.edu dagon.acc.stolaf.edu ee.uta.edu nova.cc.purdue.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu sutro.sfsu.edu umd5.umd.edu winnie.princeton.edu -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> Followup-To: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 07:13:51 GMT Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: : ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file : standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. : SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. : netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". It's decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. Incidentally, .VOC and Mac .snd formats use u-law, but may vary on the sampling rate. The NeXT .snd format is identical to .au, so it's also u-law. FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. ....Quozl! -- //////======////////// |Dennis M. Falk |221 Huntoon St.|TTA/Animaniacs/WB / @ ) \\\\\\\\\\ |aka "Quozl Mephit"|Eureka, CA |TaleSpin/CnD-RR *___(_____(___| |(quozl@netcom.com)|95501-4115 USA |Fifi/Babs/Minerva Supporting your right to own a pet Mustelid! (Skunks, ferrets, otters, minks..)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.9b Date: 13 Aug 1994 03:49:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32hft2$52k@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> root@serenitatis.velocity.com (Operator) writes: > Is anybody else out there running TransSys pni 1.9 beta? > If so do you happen to know how to get an upgrade or a new > registration key? On Sunday August 14th my key runs out. I've > tried to contact TransSys, but have received no answer. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. I have no answer for the question you asked, but note that what expires is a special demo key that gives you access to a number of features. There's another key included which would give you access to SLIP (but no CSLIP) and which does not expire. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 13 Aug 1994 08:56:28 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32i1rs$2mv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> In article <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > Wrong. Where do you get your information from? > William Shipley from Omni who was involved in the port told several times > that the port to Intel was pretty easy. My information comes from using Frame. It does seem that they do much of their own display work. They don't seem to have a good idea of how to arrange buttons, group functional operations and have an easy to use interface like a good NextStep program should. Furthermore, if it was so easy to port to Intel, why not make the application FAT? If Frame comes out with a tripple FAT version Frame 5.0, with a significantly improved NextStep-oriented user interface, then I will very happily eat my words. Until then, my basic complaints about lack of support for a NextStep user interface and NextStep hardware portability stand. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Date: 13 Aug 1994 11:15:58 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <32ia1e$7n5@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Aug11.135746.5197@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> In article <1994Aug11.135746.5197@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov writes: >Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version >of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details >if possible. Yeah, sort of. It will have pretty much the same look and feel (albeit somewhat NeXTified; scrollbars on the left, NEXTSTEP Menus, etc.), and while it won't contain 100% original code, it won't be a literal port of NCSA Mosaic, and will most likely have little or no NCSA-derived content. It will be *freeware*. (Probably with published source code.) Making it work on HP workstations is a high priority. No announced release date. I'm currently working on some WWW provider-side stuff (in response to William Shipley's challenge to develop something useful). Then I'll go back to putting OmniWeb out of business. :-) -=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Followup-To: alt.dev.null Date: 13 Aug 1994 11:38:20 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <32ibbc$8fb@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> In article <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". That depends on the particular file. Format 1 is mu-law. Formats 23-26 are ADPCM. SunOS, Solaris: <multimedia/audio_filehdr.h> /encoding/ NEXTSTEP: <sound/soundstruct.h> /dataFormat/ > No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique I'd day "compression technique" is an appropriate description of something that represents the same information content using fewer bits. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: no header-line on NXFax outgoing faxes Message-ID: <1994Aug13.111312.15281@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Keywords: fax nxfax header Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 11:13:12 GMT Hi, I discovered that when I send a fax from my NeXT using NXFax (and a ZyXEL modem) the paper at the receiving end doesn't has the normal header line with the senders phone-number, the page-number, etc. Am I doing something wrong or is this just a feature of NXFax :-). Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: halstej@iia.org (halstej) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 13 Aug 1994 13:48:32 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Message-ID: <32iivg$rdm@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> <32ibbc$8fb@nic-nac.CSU.net> Yes, the way I understand it from the sources I've found is that there are (at least) three different ADPCM formats for the SUN sound files. G.721 goes 4bit to 16bit, g723_24 3bit to 16bit, and g723_40 5bit to 16bit. There is also some source out there that is supposedly ADPCM/DVI, but I don't know what the distinction is. In all my wanderings I haven't found many sound files compressed in ANY format. But if there were one compression that was used the most it would be that most of the .au/.snd files (Sun/NeXT) use ulaw. I wonder if the lack of compression is due to the confusion of the differing types, loss in quality, speed in decompressing, or just that most programs don't give you the option. -Jerry halstej@iia.org
From: alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM (and other comp. formats) Sound files ? Date: 13 Aug 1994 09:24:50 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas - Austin Message-ID: <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> > >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. > >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. Are there any software "compressors" available on the net? I picked up some mpeg audio code (haven't compiled it yet), but I wondered if there were any other things out there (DOS or *nix). Also, does anyone have any exprience with hardware solutions to the audio compression problem? If so, which seem to be the best out there right now. -- f o V e a alt@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: dgesbert@cdphot.u-strasbg.fr (Denis GESBERT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem installing InstantTeX for NS/I Date: 13 Aug 1994 15:57:47 GMT Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France) Distribution: world Message-ID: <32iqhr$a9a@thot.u-strasbg.fr> When I try to install the package InstantTeX.tar comming from orst server, the installation seems to be ok util I got the following messages (in the journal) : Ex cution du programme d'installation ... /private/tmp/.InstantTeX.tmp/InstantTeX.post_install: /private/tmp/O_InstantTeX/InstantTeX/InstantTeX.pkg/TeXviewRemover.app/TeX viewRemover: cannot execute **** Erreurs lors de l'installation de InstantTeX.pkg. .. erreurs. (the last message says **** Errors during the installation of InstantTeX.pkg) Does anybody can help me ? -- Denis GESBERT Laboratoire des Systemes Photoniques Ecole Nationale Superieure de Physique de Strasbourg Boulevard Sebastien BRANT - 67400 Illkirch - FRANCE Tel (33) 88 65 51 64 Fax (33) 88 35 51 60 (NeXTmail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: boyan@xafsdb.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: glibc and NeXTStep (black)? Message-ID: <1994Aug12.190019.19287@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Date: Fri, 12 Aug 94 19:00:19 GMT Has anybody managed to compile the GNU libc on black hardware? I gave it a try a few days ago with a m68k-hp-bsd4.3 target and <ioctls.h> from ..../sysdeps/mach/hurd/ioctls.h. The library itself compiles fine (if you do not try to compile the sunrpc/ stuff), but at the end there are two unresolved symbols - SYS_wait (from sysdeps/unix/bsd/hp/m68k/__wait3.S) and printf_function_table (used in the stdio/ stuff). The former is not defined anywhere (in the sysdeps/unix/bsd hierarchy) but the latter is clearly declared in stdio/reg-printf.c, which is puzzling. Does any of you C wizzards out there :-) know of a workaround? Are precompiled binaries of glibc (black hardware) available? What other posix/termios/dirent libraries that will compile on black harware are available? Thanks - Boyan -- Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: How to log on another NeXT ? In-Reply-To: milen@shiloh.phys.temple.edu's message of 29 Jul 1994 01:38:14 GMT Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Aug13171242@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <319mi6$np6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 15:12:42 GMT In article <319mi6$np6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> milen@shiloh.phys.temple.edu (Milen Shishkov) writes: >Is it possible to log on another NeXT and still use the graphic interface >(the windows) Check out /NextDeveloper/Demos/OpenSesame.app. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: Problems with CDPlayer.app and NS3.1 Message-ID: <1994Aug15.113540.847@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert) Organization: Peter Eybert References: <32jjpe$il1@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:35:40 GMT Mark Cutler writes > I just upgraded from NS3.0 (motorola) to NS3.1 and now when I start > the CDPlayer application, I run into one of two problems, either: > > 1) the message "CDRom Drive can't be found", or > 2) the drive is found, but the music disks are ejected. > > My configuration is: > External HD SCSI 0 > Internal HD SCSI 2 > CDROM Drive SCSI 4 (I also tried this as SCSI 1) > DIT Cube Floppy 2.9 SCSI 3 The device number of the CDROM drive is "3" in this configuration. In /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device set /dev/rsd1h to /dev/rsd3h. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome) --
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a program to let me do a fax mail merge? Date: 13 Aug 1994 16:51:00 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <32itlk$me2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hi! I need to do fax mail merges (that is, a mail merge but instead of going to the lazer each letter is automagically faxed to the appropriae number). How do I do this? Thanks in advance! cjs
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ip15: spurious interrupt Date: 13 Aug 1994 13:21:15 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <32iveb$k7u@acmez.gatech.edu> I keep getting the following weird message in the console every so often. Any ideas? Aug 13 01:25:34 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 01:34:20 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 01:43:51 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 01:53:29 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:02:10 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:10:14 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:19:14 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:28:54 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:37:36 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:45:11 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 02:52:25 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt Aug 13 03:02:04 ulca24 mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt etc, etc, etc... -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit 4.1 split into chunks? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:06:18 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giHsFeO00iV642PkUg@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <ablakey.776924087@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Aug-94 MusicKit 4.1 split into chu.. by Antony Blakey@wattle.itd > Hi, > I want to get hold of MusicKit 4.1 from ccrma-ftp but it's 14MB and > I don't have that much allowance in my ftp account. Is there any way to > get it in smaller chunks? I could probably handle 2 x 7MB at a pinch. Try: cd /tmp ...first. You'll probably have enough free space there to download. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software compatability Date: 15 Aug 94 14:33:37 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.776961217@coricopat> References: <320hba$bu3@news.delphi.com> Keywords: software compatability kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) writes: >I have a NeXTstation running 2.0, and I need to know if I can run any >software that is UNIX 4.3BSD compatible, or if the software has to be >designed for this particular machine? I heard that if I could get the source >code in 'c' and then recompile it on my machine that it would work. >Is this true? If it runs on a Sun, will it run on my NeXT? >Thanks, Don. Yes, with respect to commandline only programs, I have made very good experience. It may sound funny, but these two machines are a lot more compatible then e.g. SUN and HP. Cheers, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Re: Opener App doesn't like postscript files Message-ID: <1994Aug13.192826.23857@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY References: <1994Aug12.130926.2175@cs.rit.edu> <32h179$ds2@news.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 19:28:26 GMT >In the meantime, the workaround is to set the default application for .ps and >.eps files to be something besides Opener, probably Preview. You can do this >from the Workspace Tools Inspector. Let me know if you need more detail. > Did it and it works great. >Sorry for the inconvenience. No problem. I think the program works great, keep up the good work. Harry
From: smithgr@cs.colorado.edu (Gregory P. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mesa 2 Spreadsheet? Date: 13 Aug 1994 20:51:02 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <32jbnm$24k@lace.Colorado.EDU> Keywords: Mesa 2 spreadsheet NeXTStep OS/2 I am considering buying the Mesa 2 spreadsheet for OS/2 (just released). I have heard that this was a NextStep application originally. Does anybody have any comments about it. How does it compare to more "traditional" spread sheets for Intel systems such as Quattro Pro or Excel? The OS/2 version is supposed to be OpenDoc compliant; this is the main reason why I'm interested. Thanks for any info (e-mail appreciated). -- Gregory P. Smith -- [Team OS/2] smithgr@cs.Colorado.EDU, FidoNet: 1:104/332, RIME ->914 Happy OS/2 and Linux user. (Finger for a PGP public key)
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener App doesn't like postscript files Date: 15 Aug 1994 16:07:52 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <32o3so$h2n@news.duke.edu> References: <1994Aug15.133616.9421@radical2.radical.com> Ralph Jung writes > Denise Blakeley writes > > This is a known bug in Opener v3.1.3a, and it will be fixed in the next > > release. In the meantime, the workaround is to set the default application > > for ps and .eps files to be something besides Opener, probably Preview. > > You can do this from the Workspace Tools Inspector. Let me know if you > > need more detail. > > This fix doesn't seem to help when trying to PREVIEW something from the > Print panel. Huh? Opener doesn't have a Print option. Please elaborate on what you're doing. > When is the new version expected to be released? Well, until lately I wasn't planning to release till NeXTSTEP 3.3 ships in November because I want to build it tri-fat, but looks like we now have a Gecko running NeXTSTEP so I could do it anytime. Give me a couple of weeks or so, I've got some other work to do on it "while I'm in there"... > P.S. Opener is a great app! Keep up the good work and thanks. Thanks! :-) Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Message-ID: <1994Aug13.211026.9522@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> <32btgi$2ss@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <32e7a5$7rv@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 21:10:26 GMT In article <32e7a5$7rv@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: > >For the record, I think Frame's font panel kicks butt all over NeXT's. >Why should they downgrade? Yuck! Frame's panel is clunk-o-rama. I agree that it's an interesting departure from NeXT's, and it has some good features, but it needs help. >>They don't use normal NeXT scrollers or buttons or >>the NeXT color panel. > >You're just wrong about the scrollers and buttons. And there was no color >panel when Frame came out. I think that he was more referring to the fact that it doesn't do dynamic scrolling. There's nothing more frustrating then scrolling your document and having to guess where you're coming out. Why even put in a scroll bar? Just use a random number generator. Yuck. Frame is powerful, yes, but it's also pretty clunky. I use it, and do like quite a few of the features... the klunky stuff can die though. - db -- Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left... -- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with CDPlayer.app and NS3.1 Date: 13 Aug 1994 23:08:30 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <32jjpe$il1@news.u.washington.edu> I just upgraded from NS3.0 (motorola) to NS3.1 and now when I start the CDPlayer application, I run into one of two problems, either: 1) the message "CDRom Drive can't be found", or 2) the drive is found, but the music disks are ejected. My configuration is: External HD SCSI 0 Internal HD SCSI 2 CDROM Drive SCSI 4 (I also tried this as SCSI 1) DIT Cube Floppy 2.9 SCSI 3 Any suggestions would be appreciated! -MC
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Displaying inline GIF/JPG images in OmniWeb? Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:33:48 GMT Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <32je7s$152@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> Keywords: gif jpg jpeg omniweb I have the latest Omniweb and OmniFilter, but I can't get in-line images to display. OmniFilter is in /LocalLibrary/Services as the readme indicates, and I've done piles of make_services and logout/logins. I've even moved every third-party app I've got that deals with GIFs out of the way - still no dice. I sent mail to the authors but didn't get a response. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance! Tim
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:59:35 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <32jq9n$fc0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <32ia1e$7n5@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <32ia1e$7n5@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > > I'm currently working on some WWW provider-side stuff (in > response to William Shipley's challenge to develop something > useful). Then I'll go back to putting OmniWeb out of business. :-) > > -=EPS=- Cut! Slash! Parry! Thrust! "What ho, my good man, your cape is soiled!" "Not so, varlet, I have not yet begun to code! Take that! And yea, that again!" :-) :-) :-) -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: greg@afs.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker for Intel Message-ID: <1994Aug14.013427.6113@afs.com> Organization: - References: <327rfv$kk7@news.tamu.edu> <Cu9v0w.HHw@txnews.amd.com> <328gpo$616@news.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 01:34:27 GMT In article <328gpo$616@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: >In article <Cu9v0w.HHw@txnews.amd.com>, >Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) <rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com> wrote: >> >>I just wanted to thank Lusty (the docu-goddess) personally for the fine job >>she's done on the WriteUp documentation. > >*blush* >I didn't think anybody noticed ;-) For the record, _I_ noticed. And Ron, I think that's "Ms. Wench" to you. Or do you know her better than that? 8^) And let's not forget my wife Laurie, who (to bring this article back to the subject line) managed to produce the 1.0 manual, and almost all of the text Diana polished, despite being saddled with Frame to do the job. Diana had the benefit of using PasteUp to complete her task. 8^) greg (Fearless Leader of the PasteUp 2.5 and WriteUp 1.1 projects) greg@afs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re-Registering TranSys PNI (Here's How) Message-ID: <CuJ3ty.yr@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Keywords: PNI, TransSys, license, key Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:20:22 GMT For those of you frantically thumbing through the PNI doco for instruction on updating the TransSys license key (the demo license key string expired today, Sunday, August 14), here's the quick low-down: (This info can be found in the TransSys PNI 1.9b distribution package under ~/PNI-1.9beta/doc/pni.info-2) Perform the following steps as root: From a UNIX shell window): 1. mv /etc/pni/keyfile /etc/pni/keyfile.save 2. /etc/pni/pnid -R 'NP0yMDAvLmQsKyoq' You will be prompted for your name, address and other information (stored on the local host in the file `/etc/pni/keyfile'). 3. Finally, edit all PNI ".config" files in /etc/pni/config and make sure the following line value is "slip" not "cslip" (the new license keystring is valid only for regular "slip"): set Config(slip:MODE) slip ...and you're done... --- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome! -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Fiend Backspace woes...author needs details Date: 15 Aug 1994 14:18:04 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <32obgs$mm@panix.com> Hi. I am about to begin working on a maintenance release of Fiend in preparation for the release of version 2.0. I would very much like to fix the problem(s) that some people have been having with the BackSpace integration (ie, hanging, modules refusing to load, etc). Unfortunately, even after running Fiend on both of the machines that I use on a daily basis (both NS/Intel 3.2 machines), I have yet to witness either of these problems. So I am soliciting reports with as much detailed information as you can provide, in the hopes that I will be able to reproduce any problem that is described. (I will be testing the code on a black machine this time, also). I will be adding an preference to selectively enable or disable any of the three sections of Fiend (ie, BackSpace, the Fiend Dock, and the Fiend Shelf), but it would be nice if I could just fix the problems rather than disabling them, don't you agree? Please send replies to: dcl@homer.uu.panix.com, rather than replying to the account from which I posted this message. Thanks. David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com (NeXTMail, of course) PS - reports of any other repeatable bugs are also welcome.
From: nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I get MusicKit? Date: 14 Aug 1994 12:14:48 -0500 Organization: Kansas State University Message-ID: <32lje8$s7i@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> I am trying to get ahold of the CCRMA MusicKit. I tried ftp'ing to ccrma.stanford.edu but they do not accept anonymous logins. Could someone please let me know where I can get ahold of the MusicKit? Neal Howland nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Communication Software Date: 15 Aug 1994 00:48:56 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <32me1o$og1@gamera.umd.edu> What is a good communication Software for NS Intel? Where can I get it? and is there a version of Kermit for the NS/I systems? THanks in advance James -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Benchpress.app Message-ID: <Aug.14.20.46.14.1994.16068@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Aug 94 00:46:14 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Im still searching for Benchpress.app... Does anyone out ther have a copy they could send to me? Let me know if you can NeXTmail it to me. Muchas Gracias, Later, John
From: ajr@eng.cam.ac.uk (Tony Robinson) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM (and other comp. formats) Sound files ? Date: 14 Aug 1994 10:37:24 GMT Organization: Engineering Department, Cambridge University, England. Message-ID: <AJR.94Aug14113724@spud.eng.cam.ac.uk> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> In-reply-to: alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu's message of 13 Aug 1994 09:24:50 -0500 In article <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu writes: > > Are there any software "compressors" available on the net? I picked up some > mpeg audio code (haven't compiled it yet), but I wondered if there were any > other things out there (DOS or *nix). Lots. Many general audio compression and (all?) freely redistributable speech specific compression packages can be found on: svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/comp.speech/sources One new package is shn114.zip, which is a DOS port of shorten. This gives lossless and ADPCM style compression. As it is designed for audio it gives better lossless compression than general purpose packages (eg gzip), and as it is designed for file compression it can give less distortion than ADPCM algorithms which have to work at a fixed compression ratio. As I said, the DOS port is new, and I appreciate hearing about any problems with it. Tony Robinson
From: gdr@ffi.no (Geir A M Drange) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 15 Aug 1994 09:13:27 GMT Organization: Forsvarets forskninginstitutt, Kjeller, Norge Distribution: world Message-ID: <32nbjn$i6s@helios.ffi.no> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> In article <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com>, quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) wr ites: > Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: > : ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file > : standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. > : SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. > : netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. > > Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a > logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a > compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. > The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". ADPCM is predictive coding where you predict future samples from past sample values, subtract the predicted signal from the original signal, and finally quantize the error signal. ADPCM use and adaptive predictor, adaptive quantizati on, or both. > decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. > I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. > No, MPEG is NOT ADPCM. MPEG uses subbandcoding and adaptive bit allocation based on psychoacoustic models of the human ear. Geir A. M. Drange | The Norwegian Institute of Technology | Signal processing
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: makyen@netcom.com (makyen@netcom.com) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <makyenCuo1nF.Hvn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:21:15 GMT quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. This statement is, at best, missleading. The _VAST_ majority of tellephone audio transmision is either u-Law or A-Law encoded. This is not ADPCM compression(as you stated). The _ONLY_ time that ADPCM is used is when the source and destination are sending just bits. In other words, you could be using ADPCM if you were making a "telephone call" over switched 56kb/s lines or other digital interface. However, calles over this, and other digital interfaces are usually u-law or a-law encoded so that they can be compatable with the rest of the phones in the world. BTW: u-law is used in the USA, A-law almost everywhere else. Conversion between the two is the responsibility of the network provider when you make an international call. makyen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Subject: NeXT TeX for Intel Message-ID: <MJANTTI.94Aug16174312@medusa.abo.fi> Sender: usenet@abo.fi (Usenet NEWS) Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:43:11 GMT There used to be a package that contained a complete TeX for NeXTStep (NeXTTeX ?). Does such a package exist for NS/I 3.2? If so where? A quick search in the standard archives did not give me anything. -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics mjantti@aton.abo.fi | Abo Akademi University | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-21-2511 127 (Home) 358-21-654 161 (Office) 358-21-654 497 (Fax)
From: rohrbach@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christoph Rohrbach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MESA Question Date: 15 Aug 1994 12:24:35 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32nmq3$ir5@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Is it possible to create a Graph in MESA that contains a second Y-axis on the right hand side with another scale ? May be i can find an answer in the MESA Programmers Interface (API). Where can i get it from ? Greetings from Mainz, Christoph Rohrbach
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Communication Software Date: 15 Aug 1994 18:02:54 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <32oakf$d2u@gamera.umd.edu> Would there be any freeware/shareware Communication programs out there for NS/I? I have tryed the TipTop stuff and love it, but $85 is steep after the $$$ I spent to get this system running. Thanks in advance James -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Displaying inline GIF/JPG images in OmniWeb? Date: 16 Aug 1994 13:09:46 GMT Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <32qdqq$bm0@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> Keywords: gif jpeg jpg omniweb Hi, Recently, I asked about displaying inline graphics in Omniweb. I did two things to make inline display work. First, I deleted my copy of OmniImageViewer. Even though make_services debug told me that it was the filter for GIF images, it didn't seem to be working. Secondy, I upgraded my copy of ImageViewer to 0.9i - I was running 0.9e on my server, which also didn't seem to be working. Inline images are now handled by ImageViewer and display correcty inside Omniweb documents. Thanks x 1,000,000 to everyone who responded, including: James A. McGilvray <jim@dep.philo.mcgill.ca> Ken Case <kc@omnigroup.com> Paul J. Sanchez <paul@lotus.wiltel.com> Andy Belk <belka@gb.swissbank.com> Tim In comp.sys.next.software article <32je7s$152@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> I wrote: > I have the latest Omniweb and OmniFilter, but I can't get in-line > images to display. OmniFilter is in /LocalLibrary/Services as > the readme indicates, and> I've done piles of make_services and > logout/logins. I've even moved every> third-party app I've got > that deals with GIFs out of the way - still no dice. I sent > mail to the authors but didn't get a response. Can anyone tell > me what I'm doing wrong? > Thanks in advance! > Tim > -- Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies, Inc. Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com "Reading documentation is an admission of failure."
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I get MusicKit? Date: 15 Aug 1994 13:38:09 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <32nr41$j8u@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <32lje8$s7i@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> In article <32lje8$s7i@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) writes: > I am trying to get ahold of the CCRMA MusicKit. I tried ftp'ing to > ccrma.stanford.edu but they do not accept anonymous logins. ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu
From: Carl Hoefer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Date: 15 Aug 1994 21:16:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Distribution: world Message-ID: <32olvr$a2h@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <32jq9n$fc0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In a previous followup, the enquirer was directed to cs.orst.edu for OmniWeb. It's not there. Can anyone post or email me a working site for OmniWeb? Carl Hoefer UC Riverside
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Perfect latest revision? Date: 15 Aug 1994 22:28:27 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: usa Message-ID: <32oq6b$n8u@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CuL0C2.3CH@txnews.amd.com> > With WriteUp, > Frame, PasteUp, Pages, and especially OpenWritePro from Xanthus (very very > promising app) we shouldn't miss WordImPerfect too much. > Ronald Pomeroy > Advanced Micro Devices > CIM Applications Group > Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com The point is that everyone in my environment (secretaries, colleagues) are using WordPerfect. (No, they do not run NS.) If I want to exchange a document with equations, I am out of luck if I do not use WordPerfect. There is no good converter to and form another popular NS product as-of-yet. I would have paid another $300 to get a WP 6.0 compatible word processor, crummy as it may be under NS. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT Date: 15 Aug 1994 22:08:47 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <32op1f$4ac@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <32olvr$a2h@galaxy.ucr.edu> In article <32olvr$a2h@galaxy.ucr.edu> Carl Hoefer writes: > > In a previous followup, the enquirer was directed to cs.orst.edu for OmniWeb. It's > not there. Can anyone post or email me a working site for OmniWeb? > ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software > Carl Hoefer > UC Riverside -Greg ------------ Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: mafrech@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Martin Frech) Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ? Message-ID: <FKMRBZTL@math.fu-berlin.de> Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:37:57 GMT eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) writes: >Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing >and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT >tapes) >Does anyone know anything about this ? >Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ? >Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them >from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all) >Eike HPs docs for the OEM 35480A are not very complete, I have a 10pages booklet, which does not even tell anything about the DIP-Switches. If you need information on these DIPs, at least I can tell you that 1 is for Compression ON-OFF, 4 is Parity ON-OFF, on our 030 and 040 Cubes, it only worked with 1 and 4 either on or off, BUT ALL THE OTHERS OFF ! Anyway, dump and restore never worked, tar was fine ! If you need detailed information on the DIPs, mail me ... - martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: jmarin@hobbes (Jose A. Marin) Subject: DoveFax Message-ID: <1994Aug15.135413.12068@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:54:13 GMT Does anyone out there have a DoveFax for the NeXT? I'm trying to install my newly acquired DoveFax but my PrintManager does not see the driver for it. I installed the DoveFax software following the instructions. I tryed to call DoveFax but the number that I have is an old one. Please post or e-mail any helpful hints. -- jmarin@hobbes.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account) Message-ID: <CuKyr1.qKF@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:25:49 GMT References: <32m66k$gi@marsu.s.bawue.de> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 In article <32m66k$gi@marsu.s.bawue.de> mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: > takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > > >In article <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org > >(Markus Wenzel) writes: > > > >If Frame comes out with a tripple FAT version Frame 5.0, with a > >significantly improved NextStep-oriented user interface, then I will very > >happily eat my words. I will very happily buy some Frame 5 licenses. > they have no interest in making FrameMaker NeXT-like. They just > want to sell FM as a Unix application with the same functionality on every > platform. Although I would like to see Frame for NeXT more NeXT-like, the most important thing is that we see it, period. Same functionality on every platform is not such a bad goal.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Still looking... Message-ID: <1994Aug16.161217.923@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:12:17 GMT ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com | "Woodstock '94 - the only time I've ever Chief Technical Officer | spent money so I could be treated like Anderson Financial Systems Inc. | a refugee." NeXTMail accepted | -Jack Brasch
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 16 Aug 1994 19:09:04 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <32r2sg$n0r@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de> <32qiv0INNji1@umbc7.umbc.edu> As another sidebar: I tried using Audio grade tapes in my HP tape drive. Not a good idea. They use a much higher drag on the spools for tape tensioning. I found that the drive would stall about half way thorugh the tape. (The tapes were Sony.) It became a moot point when I found that HP would sell me a data grade 90 meter tape for $3 more than Sony wanted for a 60 meter tape (15 vs 12 bucks canadian) -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Message-ID: <CuGzu8.JG@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <CuGxnp.H0@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 10:58:55 GMT To FRAME for black I ve got following information: > > In comp.sys.next.software article <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> you > wrote: > > > And what about FRAME for black hardware? Is it so difficult to make > > fat? > > > > Sorry, it will be fat. > > -- > David Spitzler > NeXT Computer, Inc. > 900 Chesapeake Drive > Redwood City, CA 94063 USA > david_spitzler@next.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next Mail Icon Date: 16 Aug 1994 06:33:18 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <32pmje$av5@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> I have seen that the Mail Icon on the Dock of my colleagues display the status of their mailbox. If they have unread mail, it displays differently than when they haven't. What is wrong with my NextMail App. As I can't follow the news during my vacation, please tell me by email if you know the solution to my problem: Tim -------------------------- Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
From: rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Date: 14 Aug 1994 14:13:22 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> 1. How is NEXTSTEP? I am mainly concerned with the 486 version. 2. Is it stable? Is it buggy?? Can you put mission critical apps on it? 3. How is NeXT as a company? Judging from past history and books and such it is not a very pretty. Job's temper, ego, and the like had caused chaos turmoil in the past. A 200+ million flop. Biggest flop in history by on source. 4. Is their tech support good or do you wait a million hours running up costly bills only to find out that no one can find the problem? 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and nowhere to turn. Thanks in advance for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: f2c or gcc problems In-Reply-To: t19@nikhef.nl's message of 5 Aug 94 17:06:34 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Aug14073932@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <2924@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:39:32 GMT >>>>> On 5 Aug 94 17:06:34 GMT, t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) said: In article <2924@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > I hope somebaody knows a workaround for two irritating little > problems I run into with f2c and the NeXT (3.2) C compiler. Both > only occur when turning on debugging info (-g). I've seen that problem before. It is supposed to be legal C, but NeXT's compiler can't hack it for some of the C expressions split by the #line. On the other hand, I tried SUN's cc and acc, AIX xlc, and HP cc and got even worst results. For a 5K lines of Fortran Source, I got about 30 error from cc on the NEXT, but with the Sun I got over a 1000. One solution is to write a awk script to get rid of the duplicate #line. Every time a C expression is split, the same line number is given twice. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TeX for Intel Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:40:25 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rbo9$jq@news.iastate.edu> References: <MJANTTI.94Aug16174312@medusa.abo.fi> Markus J{ntti STA writes > There used to be a package that contained a complete TeX for > NeXTStep (NeXTTeX ?). Does such a package exist for NS/I 3.2? > If so where? A quick search in the standard archives did not > give me anything. NeXT-TeX works just fine for NSI. It comes with the user distribution in pkg form and you have to install it along with the OS. There are many TeX related utilities on the archives for use with NeXT-TeX, some free, some shareware, a few are commercial. Most of these, I believe, have been compiled FAT and should also work on NSI. Hope this helps -- Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: Re: Music notation software for the NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Aug17.063429.16882@nosc.mil> Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA References: <32gptk$7rc@shiva.UU.NET> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:34:29 GMT In article <32gptk$7rc@shiva.UU.NET> mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) writes: > > Does anyone know of any software that lets you place notes on a staff for > music transcription or composition? I just want to place notes and hear them, > not go through cryptic alogrythms to create music... Try "NoteAbility" from Ciusa. It is still in beta but does work for the most part. Ciusa 3208 West Lake St. Suite 133 Minneapolis MN 55416 (612) 822-1604 info@ciusa.com --Ron P.S. I have nothing to do with this company and am not necessarily endorsing this product. I purchased a personal copy after seeing it at a local NeXT User group meeting and it has proven somewhat useful.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP Word Processing (was Re: Word Perfect latest revision?) Date: 15 Aug 1994 18:44:43 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <32od2r$dsf@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <CuL0C2.3CH@txnews.amd.com> In article <CuL0C2.3CH@txnews.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > Ya' know what? I don't give a s**t anymore. It was a crappy app. > With WriteUp, Frame, PasteUp, Pages, and especially > OpenWritePro from Xanthus (very very promising app) we > shouldn't miss WordImPerfect too much. We don't miss WordImPerfect, we miss the money we sent them for the product. Since we paid our money, it is reasonable for me to make sure we got every possible update out of them... ..before admitting defeat and spending more money on some other solution. One thing is certain: as regrettable as the NEXTSTEP port was, being able to import/export WP format files is critical to our and many other situations, and any alternative that does not offer the functionality is not a viable option. -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Music notation software for the NeXT? Message-ID: <CuJxwE.Kx6@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <32gptk$7rc@shiva.UU.NET> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 01:09:49 GMT Mickey Lasky (mickey@uunet.uu.net) wrote: : Does anyone know of any software that lets you place notes on a staff for : music transcription or composition? I just want to place notes and hear them, : not go through cryptic alogrythms to create music... How about NoteAbility by Ciusa, Inc. They can be reached at (612)822-1604 or info@ciusa.com. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: lcs@shore.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Contacting Louis Mamakos Date: 14 Aug 94 22:14:39 Organization: North Shore Access, a service of Eco Software, Inc. Distribution: fj Message-ID: <root.94Aug14221439@lcs> References: <3288f9$m8m@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain About a month ago, I contacted Louis Mamakos by sending e-mail to louie@transys.com, and he replied. He may be overwhelmed by mail now, since a lot of people are using his program.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Benchpress.app Message-ID: <Aug.14.23.03.16.1994.23574@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Aug 94 03:03:17 GMT References: <Aug.14.20.46.14.1994.16068@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >Hi All, > Im still searching for Benchpress.app... Does anyone out ther have a >copy they could send to me? Let me know if you can NeXTmail it to me. >Muchas Gracias, >Later, John Well thanks to all that responded :-) Benchpress can be found at: uhoop.egr.uh.edu in /pub/misc/Benchmarks/BenchmarkApps Anonymous FTP should work. Later, Thanks again, John
From: ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MusicKit 4.1 split into chunks? Date: 15 Aug 94 04:14:47 GMT Organization: The University of Adelaide Message-ID: <ablakey.776924087@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> Keywords: NeXT MusicKit FTP Hi, I want to get hold of MusicKit 4.1 from ccrma-ftp but it's 14MB and I don't have that much allowance in my ftp account. Is there any way to get it in smaller chunks? I could probably handle 2 x 7MB at a pinch. Thanks in advance, Antony Blakey - Metaphor Pty Ltd - Cross Platform Software Engineering - Multimedia/Hypermedia/SGML specialists - 3rd Floor - 66 Wyatt Street Tel: +61 8 223 6411 - Adelaide 5000 Fax: +61 8 232 1856 - South AUSTRALIA A/H: +61 8 272 7429
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.9b Message-ID: <CuJM0M.DH@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Organization: Relief Consulting & Development References: <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 20:53:10 GMT In article <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> root@serenitatis.velocity.com (Operator) writes: > Is anybody else out there running TransSys pni 1.9 beta? > If so do you happen to know how to get an upgrade or a new registration > key? On Sunday August 14th my key runs out. I've tried to contact > TransSys, but have received no answer. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > > Thanks, > Michael Lemire > mikel@velocity.com > (612)936-9484 ext. 14 ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submssions/TranSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer --
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PNI SLIP on a server Message-ID: <Aug.15.01.42.25.1994.2867@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Aug 94 05:42:25 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, I was wondering if anyone one has gotton PNI to run off of a NS server? I have a ND that is being used as a server (set up via Simple Network Starter) for a really basic network server. I have two nodes attached to the server... well 1.5 really, because one of the machines is a laptop that comes and goes from time to time. In the mean time I have some really hacked scripts and the server kinda works.... BUT, when I installed PNI and it recommended I make my machine not a NetInfo machine or Let It Be--I went with the Let It Be option. Now to get into SLIP I issue this command: /etc/pni/pnid -C -c -n pni0 -t -d -f /etc/pni/config/pni0.config & because this command doesn't work: /etc/pni/pnirun pni0 & Anyway, when PNI is connecting, my Rutgers cisco server reports that I should be using IP address X. This address is sometimes different from what is in my 'pni0.config' file and the SLIP connection doesn't work correctly and I have to bring PNI down and edit the 'pni0.config' file to match what the cisco server is sending me. All in all, a lame way of putting up a SLIP connection. I guess I have two questions: 1) Does anyone use PNI on a NetInfo Server? And if you do, could you please either email or post to the net, details of how you put it up? 2) Does anyone use PNI to log into Rutgers cisco servers? And if so, could you please send me your login.tcl script? Thank you very much for any help/info, Later, John PS Isn't it possible to make PNI easier to use? Sooner or later many NS users are going to have laptops and need to run their home machine as a server. There has got to be a more simple way. But being the bone head I am, I must have missed it %-).
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 14 Aug 1994 23:35:00 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <32m66k$gi@marsu.s.bawue.de> References: <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <32i1rs$2mv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: >In article <32e7uu$616@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org >(Markus Wenzel) writes: >> Wrong. Where do you get your information from? >> William Shipley from Omni who was involved in the port told several >times >> that the port to Intel was pretty easy. >My information comes from using Frame. It does seem that they do much of >their own display work. They don't seem to have a good idea of how to >arrange buttons, group functional operations and have an easy to use >interface like a good NextStep program should. You mix up two things: Frame doesn't come along with a NeXTSTEP look'n feel, that's right. I suppose 3.2 won't, either. But this does not mean that the port was difficult. Porting just means to pass source code through the compiler, no matter if it is NeXT-like or not. >Furthermore, if it was so >easy to port to Intel, why not make the application FAT? I think this is due to political reasons. In Frame's point of view, NS/Moto is dying hardware. NS/HP has not installed enough seats yet. (But probably will have in the near future. Personally, a HP port makes more sense than a Moto port, because 3.0 is available for Moto.) >If Frame comes out with a tripple FAT version Frame 5.0, with a >significantly improved NextStep-oriented user interface, then I will very >happily eat my words. Until then, my basic complaints about lack of >support for a NextStep user interface and NextStep hardware portability >stand. If I make my own decisions out of the information I got about Frame in Usenet, they have no interest in making FrameMaker NeXT-like. They just want to sell FM as a Unix application with the same functionality on every platform. NeXTSTEP specific look and feel is no point of interest, as long as they don't earn billions of $$ out of the port. They could only be convinced to do the port because it could be done with minimal efforts, and there are several hundred (thousand?) potential customers in the world. -- !!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!! // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: Opener App doesn't like postscript files Message-ID: <1994Aug15.133616.9421@radical2.radical.com> Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <32h179$ds2@news.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:36:16 GMT Denise Blakeley writes > In article <1994Aug12.130926.2175@cs.rit.edu>, > Harry E Noel <hen1580@cs.rit.edu> wrote: > >I was able to open any .ps file by clicking on it and the > >viewer would open it up. But ever since I have installed the > >opener application (which works great otherwise) my .ps files > >no longer open from the workspace. > > > >When the .ps file is launched from the workspace, I get a message saying > >could not open file and it's path. > > > >I looked at the filetype in the opener app for a conflict with the .ps sufix > >but couldn't find any. > > > >Any ideas? > > Yes--ask me. :-) > > This is a known bug in Opener v3.1.3a, and it will be fixed in the next release. > In the meantime, the workaround is to set the default application for ps and > .eps files to be something besides Opener, probably Preview. You can do this > from the Workspace Tools Inspector. Let me know if you need more detail. > > Sorry for the inconvenience. > > Denise This fix doesn't seem to help when trying to PREVIEW something from the Print panel. When is the new version expected to be released? P.S. Opener is a great app! Keep up the good work and thanks. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Word Perfect latest revision? Message-ID: <CuL0C2.3CH@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <23104.seins@fox.nstn.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 15:00:01 GMT In article <23104.seins@fox.nstn.ca> "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> writes: >>On 10 Aug 1994 19:31:44 GMT, >>Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote: >> >>>Our copy is version 1.0.1 dated 10 June 1993. It's MAB >>>m68k/intel. >>> >>>I know that WP dropped support for the NEXTSTEP version, but >>>wasn't there going to be one last maintenance release? >>> >>>Does anyone have a later version/release than the above? >>> >>>-- >>>Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 >>>Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 >>>Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu >>>Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy" >> >>What you have (Version 1.0.1) *IS* the maintenance release. There will be >>no further releases of WP for NS, and support will be dropped all together >>as of January 1995. Ya' know what? I don't give a s**t anymore. It was a crappy app. With WriteUp, Frame, PasteUp, Pages, and especially OpenWritePro from Xanthus (very very promising app) we shouldn't miss WordImPerfect too much. Add in all the killer drawing and image manipulation apps for NEXTSTEP and I'd have to say desktop publishing is still viable, if not excellent, on NEXTSTEP. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com
From: okoupal@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Ondrej Koupal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Comdex Convention Date: 16 Aug 1994 00:05:43 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Message-ID: <32ovsn$cqi@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Comdex Convention Las Vegas Available during the week of Novermber 13-20 During the Las Vegas Computer Show COMDEX A one bedroom Condo, Sleeps 4. Full Kitchen, Walking distance to Las Vegas Convention Centre. 1/2 Block off the Vegas Strip. Free Van service to and from the airport & Anywhere in Las Vegas Call Pat at 403-985-3925. or E-Mail okoupal@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Should Opener.app support pgp? Message-ID: <1994Aug15.110918.25153@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 15 Aug 94 11:09:18 MDT Organization: As little as I can get away with...
From: ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DPS+Soundcard needed for Music? Date: 16 Aug 94 02:52:07 GMT Organization: The University of Adelaide Message-ID: <ablakey.777005527@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> Keywords: DSP Soundcard Intel Music Hi, I have an i.link i56 card on order but I note that it only has 8kHz analog in/out. Do I also need a sound card to really do sound properly? BTW: I'm running NS 3.2/Intel on a Pentium 90. I've just got the 4.1 MusicKit and DSP support and am wondering if I really need the DSP board. Does anyone else have experience with this? Should I cancel my DSP board order and buy something else? If I don't have DSP what functionality do I lose? Any thoughts gratefully received. Antony Blakey - Metaphor Pty Ltd - Cross Platform Software Engineering - Multimedia/Hypermedia/SGML specialists - 3rd Floor - 66 Wyatt Street Tel: +61 8 223 6411 - Adelaide 5000 Fax: +61 8 232 1856 - South AUSTRALIA A/H: +61 8 272 7429
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199408160130.AA299340616@relay2.geis.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 00:57:00 UTC Subject: NEXTIME and Mac CDROM's Hello Unix Wizards, I'm trying to use a QuickTime CDROM that is dual-format DOS/Mac. When you insert a CDROM using NEXTSTEP it looks for the DOS file system before it looks for the Macintosh filesystem. Since the disk is a DOS/Mac CDROM it think it's a DOS disk and then NEXTIME does not want to load the movies since they are on a DOS CDROM and it only works on a Mac CDROM. Any ideas and solutions on how to get around this problem? Eric "E.T."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: no header-line on NXFax outgoing faxes Message-ID: <1994Aug15.081123.4053@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1994Aug13.111312.15281@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 08:11:23 GMT In article <1994Aug13.111312.15281@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: ~> Hi, ~> ~> I discovered that when I send a fax from my NeXT using NXFax (and ~> a ZyXEL modem) the paper at the receiving end doesn't has the ~> normal header line with the senders phone-number, the page-number, ~> etc. Am I doing something wrong or is this just a feature of ~> NXFax :-). ~> ~> Willem Willem, That is normally a feature of the RECEIVING fax machine. Some sending fax software also implements it, but when both sender and receiver attempt to insert that information, the results can be over-printed and garbled. The sender sends the cover-sheet. Bruce Gingery
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "CryptoBundle" available ? Date: 16 Aug 1994 05:08:11 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called "CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up empty. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109
From: tuti@tutiki.toppoint.de (Torsten Buelck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.9b Date: 14 Aug 1994 11:05:19 +0100 Organization: Tuti's... NeXT Message-ID: <32kq8v$2to@tutiki.toppoint.de> References: <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> <32hft2$52k@usenet.rpi.edu> In <32hft2$52k@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >root@serenitatis.velocity.com (Operator) writes: >> Is anybody else out there running TransSys pni 1.9 beta? >> If so do you happen to know how to get an upgrade or a new >> registration key? On Sunday August 14th my key runs out. I've >> tried to contact TransSys, but have received no answer. Any >> help would be greatly appreciated. >I have no answer for the question you asked, but note that what >expires is a special demo key that gives you access to a number >of features. There's another key included which would give you >access to SLIP (but no CSLIP) and which does not expire. ...and which does not function as I experienced. I wrote TransSys about this and got the answer that there is a bug in the keystring stuff that prevents this key to work. Get version 1.10 and all will be fine (ftp.uu.net:/vendors/TransSys/... when I remember right). Good luck, Torsten. -- Torsten Buelck tuti@tutiki.toppoint.de (NeXTmail) 24537 Neumuenster Germany
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Date: 15 Aug 1994 21:27:25 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <32pf7d$p5m@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <CuA6I3.DA@manki.toppoint.de> <32btgi$2ss@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <32e7a5$7rv@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Aug13.211026.9522@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Darcy BROCKBANK writes: >I think that he was more referring to the fact that it doesn't do >dynamic scrolling. There's nothing more frustrating then scrolling >your document and having to guess where you're coming out. I couldn't agree more.
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to convert DSP port to a serial port? (and where can i get software) Date: 10 Aug 1994 23:13:06 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> Is there a device for that? -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: zeller@iis.fhg.de (Juergen Zeller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Postscript to GIF Conferter Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:31:09 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft IIS Message-ID: <zeller.20.00108568@iis.fhg.de> Hello, I am searching for a tool to convert a postscript "picture" to a GIF-Image. I have tried pstoppm.ps from the Ghostscript-Distribution (with ptr instead of gs), but it didn´t work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jürgen zeller@iis.fhg.de
From: brian@umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ? Date: 16 Aug 1994 10:37:20 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <32qiv0INNji1@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de> Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A In article <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de>, Eike Dierks <eike@ilink.de> wrote: >Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing >and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT >tapes) > >Does anyone know anything about this ? > >Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ? > >Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them >from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all) > >Eike The only drive I've seen that does this is an Archive Python with a firmware special done by them for SGI. The firmware special adds SCSI commands that access audio formatted DAT tapes. It's complicated, though, and there isn't any *simple* way to play audio DAT tapes or even get the adio data from them. As a side bar, NeXT could learn a *LOT* from SGI and their tape handling. SGI has fairly sophisticated tape device management, while NeXT seems to be stuck in the previous decade with their tape interface. Cheers, Brian -- Brian Cuthie Systemix Software, Inc. brian@systemix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan Subject: EOF Application Runtime Error Message-ID: <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> Sender: usenet@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:55:15 GMT Check this out: Anybody run into this with an EOF App? (gdb) step Error loading /NextLibrary/Adaptors/Sybase.dbadaptor/Sybase rld(): Undefined symbols: _sys_nerr _sys_errlist _setsockopt _send Aug 16 14:47:34 [4296] *** Uncaught exception: initWithAdaptor:: invalid nil value for adaptor exiting! Program exited with code 0377. (gdb) Thanks! Damon F. Cooper Aetna Canada damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: jtayler@tmade.com (Jesse Tayler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Report generators for NEXTSTEP??? Date: 16 Aug 1994 20:25:54 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <32r7ci$5on@kesha.seanet.com> Keywords: report generator With the shrink wrap market for NEXTSTEP shrinking, I have found the report writers for NS that I know of, to be unfinished or inadequate (Like IMPRESS from OTI). I need to find something to help with the number and complexity of reports for a financial companies requirements. Has everyone out there written their own report writers in Objective-C or something? - From scratch? What are YOU using, do you have any suggestions for me? I don't want to see this last feature cause the whole NS development to get scrapped at this site!! - Everything else is done!! Thanks ! Jesse -- ________________________________________ Jesse Tayler TAYLERmade Consulting 520 2nd Ave. W. #309 Seattle, WA. 98119
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Still looking... Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:11:14 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug16.161217.923@afs.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 16-Aug-94 Still looking... by Michael Pizolato@afs.com > ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? From the sendmail 8.6.x READ_ME file: The latest version of sendmail is kept on FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU, directory /ucb/sendmail; check there for the latest revision. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: free printing works!, NeXT to Mac localtalk printer Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:23:41 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rhpt$cah@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Many thanks to David, OKERSON@ndadsa.gsfc.nasa.gov, for his suggestion. I am now using ldDaemon, from sumex-aim. With this daemon, My localtalk networked mac emulates an lpr printer. Once I created a /etc/printcap entry on my NeXT and loaded it into netinfo, I got automatic printing fromall my NeXT applications. Best of all, it was free. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Displaying inline GIF/JPG images in OmniWeb? Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:58:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rjrf$out@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32qdqq$bm0@nobugs.bmt.gun.com> treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) writes: > Recently, I asked about displaying inline graphics in Omniweb. > I did two things to make inline display work. First, I deleted > my copy of OmniImageViewer. Even though make_services debug told > me that it was the filter for GIF images, it didn't seem to be > working. Hmm. That's odd. I wouldn't expect OmniImageViewer to be listed as the service-provider. I'd expect OminImageFilter.service to be the target... Maybe you had older versions of OmniImageViewer? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: re: NEXTIME and Mac CDROM's Date: 17 Aug 1994 00:01:23 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rk0j$ov9@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <199408160130.AA299340616@relay2.geis.com> <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes: > I'm trying to use a QuickTime CDROM that is dual-format DOS/Mac. > When you insert a CDROM using NEXTSTEP it looks for the DOS file > system before it looks for the Macintosh filesystem. Since the > disk is a DOS/Mac CDROM it think it's a DOS disk and then NEXTIME > does not want to load the movies since they are on a DOS CDROM > and it only works on a Mac CDROM. Hmm. Given that it's a QuickTime CD-ROM, and that the QuickTime movies can presumably be viewed under DOS, I wonder why NeXTIME won't work at all with the DOS layout. This seems odd... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: WriteUp is back in the right place on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <1994Aug16.193807.2222@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 19:38:07 GMT Late last week, someone moved the WriteUp 1.1 demo distribution on cs.orst.edu from demos/productivity to binaries/productivity (and when Scott gets his hands on whoever did it... 8^). If you've been looking for WriteUp, it is now back in ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/productivity/WriteUp_Distribution.tar PasteUp 2.5 remains in ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/graphics/PasteUp_Distribution.tar Note they are in two different demo sections. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: s_heidri@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Dietmar Heidrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X window applications Date: 17 Aug 1994 10:47:01 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <32spr5INNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de> Hello folks. One simple question: By using an X server for NeXTstep, will I be able to compile and run usual X software like GNUPLOT, idraw etc. ? Dietmar Heidrich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Text to speech utility Message-ID: <CuKMt0.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:07:48 GMT Hi, I downloaded rsynth from the net and tried to compile it. It compiled all right on my Intel-based machine, but it doesn't work !!! Anytime I try to "say" a word or a sentence, some ugly sounds come out of the loudspeakers but certainly not english. It sounds like frying fish (I'm happy it doesn't smell the same). Could anyone point to me what I'm doing wrong (not about frying fish but about how to have say work) ? Thanks a lot Jacques GARBI, Switzerland -- Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd. Av. Davel 18 1004 Lausanne
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to convert DSP port to a serial port? (and where can i get software) Date: 15 Aug 1994 18:37:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: World Message-ID: <32ockq$b7a@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> In article <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com writes: > >Is there a device for that? You only need to buy a driver called TTYDSP from Yrrid (sp?). No hardware other than cable is really needed because the DSP port already has a standard async serial port (SCI), in addition to a synchronous serial port (SSI). -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 16 Aug 94 14:20:28 MDT References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, John Devlin <jdevlin@umich.edu> wrote: >I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called >"CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from >the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I >can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up >empty. Any suggestions? > >Thanks. > >-- >John Devlin >Department of Philosophy >The University of Michigan >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: /pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle-1.0.NI.b.tar.gz It comes with pgp v2.3a which shouldn't be used in the US. Trash the pgp executable, and ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/README to find out how to get the v2.6 (the USable version). You'll need to make the following changes to v2.6 (suggested by Howard Cole <hcole@zia.nrcabq.com>): =================== However it is true that pgp 2.5 does not work with CryptorBundle-1.0 out of the box. This is because pgp 2.5 sends all its messages out through stderr, and CryptorBundle assumes it's coming from stdout. There is a quick fix for this. In the file pgp.c find the following lines: #if 0 /* At request of Peter Simons, use stderr always. Sounds reasonable. */ if (!filter_mode && (outputfile == NULL || strcmp(outputfile, "-"))) pgpout = stdout; #endif And change the "#if 0" to "#if 1". All will be well. Except for an extra two spurious keys in your window called "found." These can be eliminated by changing lines in the keymgmt.c file back to their 2.3 state: Replace these lines: if (keycounter == 1) fprintf(pgpout,LANG("1 matching key found.\n")); else fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d matching keys found.\n"),keycounter); with this line: fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d key(s) examined.\n"),keycounter); =================== It's too bad the Opener.app doesn't support pgp "compression". <sigh> Is anyone working on a real NeXT pgp interface? NXPGP.app is better than nothing, but an app wrapper (like GISO for sox) would be really nice. -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug16.174351.25238@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 16 Aug 94 17:43:50 MDT References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu>, J. Kelly Cunningham <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> wrote: >In article <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, >John Devlin <jdevlin@umich.edu> wrote: >>I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called >>"CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from >>the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I >>can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up >>empty. Any suggestions? >> >>Thanks. >> >>-- >>John Devlin >>Department of Philosophy >>The University of Michigan >>Ann Arbor, MI 48109 > > >ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: >/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle-1.0.NI.b.tar.gz > >It comes with pgp v2.3a which shouldn't be used in the US. Trash the >pgp executable, and ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/README to find out how >to get the v2.6 (the USable version). Sorry, it comes with v2.2.. >It's too bad the Opener.app doesn't support pgp "compression". <sigh> > >Is anyone working on a real NeXT pgp interface? NXPGP.app is better than >nothing, but an app wrapper (like GISO for sox) would be really nice. > >-- kc >finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) Subject: Re: Who uses flat file Databases ? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:15:46 +0000 Message-ID: <9408171112.AA05798@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Although not released yet, Lighthouse Design's VarioData (+ VarioBuilder) appears to be a VERY good product indeed. For me, a non programmer, I was easily able to create a simple dbase using drag and drop. One thing to remember is that DataPhile is NOT muti-user; thta's important for some of us; VarioData is muti-user and, in addition can front end SQL dbases too. Suggest you take a look before making final choice. John Stephen -- -- John I. Stephen, | Phone +44-71-696-3335 Assistant IT Director | Group Finance IT, | Fax +44-71-696-3270 Barclays Bank PLC, |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: dan@pdh.com (Dan Delany) Subject: Willing to pay for Oracle help Message-ID: <CunKqp.JsC@pdh.com> Organization: PDH, Inc. Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 00:16:01 GMT We're trying to install Oracle 6 on an 040 cube, and have all of the manuals except for the "Installation and Configuration" manual. Oracle no longer sells this manual, as they no longer support the NeXT market. We are willing to pay for anybody with experience who can come in and help us get it running. We are in San Jose, CA. Please call me (Dan Delany) at (408)428-9596 or send email if you are interested. -- Dan Delany, Dan_Delany@pdh.com (NeXT mail OK) System Administrator, PDH Inc. "Are you the police?" "No, ma'am. We're musicians."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) Subject: Kermit for NS/FIP Message-ID: <MJANTTI.94Aug17145224@medusa.abo.fi> Sender: usenet@abo.fi (Usenet NEWS) Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:52:24 GMT The Kermit 5A for NS/FIP (kermit-5A-188-binary.tar.Z) on cs.orst.edu seems to be corrupt. I managed to get the kermit executable, but it won't run on my NS. Does anyone have a working version of the same (pre-comipled)? Could you please point out to me where I could get it or could you e-mail it to me (in uuencoded for, please). Thanks, -- Markus Jantti | Department of Economics mjantti@aton.abo.fi | Abo Akademi University | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland 358-21-2511 127 (Home) 358-21-654 161 (Office) 358-21-654 497 (Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Should Opener.app support pgp? Message-ID: <Cun4v5.4nK@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <1994Aug15.110918.25153@cc.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:33:05 GMT In article <1994Aug15.110918.25153@cc.usu.edu> writes: > It would be great if it did. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: vanguard@oar.net (Tyler Gingrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: EOF Application Runtime Error Date: 17 Aug 1994 08:31:18 -0400 Organization: OARnet, Columbus, OH. Message-ID: <32svum$f10@dialup.oar.net> References: <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> In article <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.aetnacan writes: >Check this out: Anybody run into this with an EOF App? > >Error loading /NextLibrary/Adaptors/Sybase.dbadaptor/Sybase >rld(): Undefined symbols: >Aug 16 14:47:34 [4296] *** Uncaught exception: initWithAdaptor:: invalid >nil value for adaptor > Damon, Add -all_load to the OTHER_LDFLAGS line in your makefile.preamble. This will load up the Sybase adaptor at run time. Tyler Gingrich tyler@vsc.com Vanguard Software, Corp. PS: See ...NextDev/EnterpriseObjects/Concepts/04_PB-IB.rtfd or ...NextDev/ReleaseNotes/CompilerTools.rtf for more information.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Still looking... Message-ID: <1994Aug17.120503.25268@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 17 Aug 94 12:05:02 MDT References: <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu> Distribution: inet Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 16-Aug-94 Still looking... by >Michael Pizolato@afs.com >> ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? > >From the sendmail 8.6.x READ_ME file: > >The latest version of sendmail is kept on FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU, directory >/ucb/sendmail; check there for the latest revision. > >-Chuck > > >Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, >--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of >AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." >NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi-- > Does anyone know where I can get source for the SendmailPatch provided by NeXT? -- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Colin) Subject: rtf-ps Message-ID: <Cup4CJ.99K@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 20:17:07 GMT I checked the FAQs and could not find any info, so would some kind person please point me towards a command-line rtf to postscript converter, if such a thing exists. Thanks. -- Colin Allen Asst. Professor, Philosophy, Texas A&M University 1994-95 -- Dept. of EPO Biology, University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309-0334
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Utility to De-BinHex file? Message-ID: <westesCupA29.8y4@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 22:20:33 GMT Is there a utility that can decode a binhex file under NeXSTEP? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: driver for hp 4l Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:39:06 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <32u72q$hl4@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> I am thinking of buying one of those new, ultra cheapo, hp 4l's. I can get a new one for $600. pretty cheap for a real laser printer. They are 300 dpi, HPCL5 (or whatever the language is called, version 5). They only have 1 meg of memory. I have two questions. 1. does the $75 next printer pack have a driver for this printer? 2. what about the other drivers, such as the pd ones, ghostscript, or what? thanks, nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: Bibliography Software for NeXT or SoftPC? Message-ID: <CupCME.n5@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 23:15:49 GMT I've got a mess of papers to write by this time next month, and my life would be made considerably easier if I had some bibliographic software with which to sort and format my references. Does anyone know of any of the following things: 1) Bibliographic software that runs under NeXTStep (I've tried using addbib but I'm just not enough of a UNIX stud to handle it yet) 2) Bibliographic software that runs on SoftPC 2.0 (I know it's ancient, but what can I do...they just don't pay seminarians mission-critical salaries) I've tried 'bibliologic' for softPC, but it can't save output files. Any help would be immensly appreciated. PEace, James -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Utility to De-BinHex file? Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:32:24 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <32udn8$c85@news.duke.edu> References: <westesCupA29.8y4@netcom.com> In article <westesCupA29.8y4@netcom.com>, Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote: >Is there a utility that can decode a binhex file under NeXSTEP? Yes--Opener.app. It's available via anonymous ftp from cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/util. Once you have it installed in /LocalApps, all you need to do is double-click on your file. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward.
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TeX for Intel Date: 17 Aug 1994 08:29:17 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <32se8d$39a@marsu.s.bawue.de> References: <MJANTTI.94Aug16174312@medusa.abo.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) writes: >There used to be a package that contained a complete TeX for >NeXTStep (NeXTTeX ?). Does such a package exist for NS/I 3.2? >If so where? A quick search in the standard archives did not >give me anything. Sure... it's on the NeXTSTEP 3.2 CD as a package. It is not installed by default, you have to add the package manually. -- !!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!! // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WILLING TO PAY FOR SOME FAXing IN CHICAGO Date: 18 Aug 1994 05:31:26 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <32urne$dqb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ** LET'S MAKE A DEAL ** Hi! Let me explain: I'm in Asia. I'm job hunting in Chicago. I have about 130 faxes to send. The most economical way to do this is to hire someone in the NeXT Community to send the faxes from their computer. I will provide ps files ready to fax, all you need to do is execute a csh command (for blah lpr -Pfax-queue blah) and everything just pops into the queue (no need to use the print/fax panel :->). You will be paid in US dollars by a check drawn on a US bank. Please send me your offer seline@tpts1.seed.net.tw You (of course) must have a NeXT, fax modem, be a local call from Chicago and have access to the internet (we'll use ftp to move the files (or next mail if you wish)). P.S. I also need someone to call about 70 firms in Chicago and find out the name of the firm's managing partner. I had someone do this in D.C. and she said it took about one-minute per firm. (The main operator at the firm knows who the managing partner is (they probably receive five calls-a-day with this question.)) If you're interested, please make an offer. (The faxing and the phoning are not linked, you can do one or the other or both). (You'll need to type the managing partner's name in and e-mail me the list (this is probably the most annoying part)).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Ordered 3.2, Got 3.1? Message-ID: <Cupu2u.4xr@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 05:32:53 GMT I ordered NS User+Development and got only the Development package, version 3.1. Things are off to a good start. ;-) Are the books identical between 3.1 and 3.2? I'm inclined to reject the whole thing, and order from someone else. Any suggestions? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IB Bug Date: 18 Aug 1994 02:11:22 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <32uu2a$n10@heron.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a I need help with InterfaceBuilder. It will not launch. Whenever I try to launch it, I get an Alert panel that says "Runtime error: NXReadOnlyString: does not recognize selector -replaceWith:". I am trying to fix this by reinstalling the developement package, but I don't know that this will fix it. Does anyone have any clues??? Thanks Frank -- COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu
From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IB Bug Date: 18 Aug 1994 02:23:12 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <32uuog$n42@heron.cc.gatech.edu> References: <32uu2a$n10@heron.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a In article <32uu2a$n10@heron.cc.gatech.edu>, Frank Cobia <gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: >I need help with InterfaceBuilder. It will not launch. Whenever I try to >launch it, I get an Alert panel that says "Runtime error: NXReadOnlyString: >does not recognize selector -replaceWith:". > >I am trying to fix this by reinstalling the developement package, but I don't >know that this will fix it. Does anyone have any clues??? > I just finished reinstalling the developer's tools and libraries and I still have the same problem. Someone please help! Thanks Frank -- COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt2186a Internet: gt2186a@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: no header-line on NXFax outgoing faxes Message-ID: <1994Aug17.075601.22947@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <1994Aug13.111312.15281@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <1994Aug15.081123.4053@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:56:01 GMT Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: >In article <1994Aug13.111312.15281@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> >schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: >~> I discovered that when I send a fax from my NeXT using NXFax (and >~> a ZyXEL modem) the paper at the receiving end doesn't has the >~> normal header line with the senders phone-number, the page-number, >~> etc. Am I doing something wrong or is this just a feature of >~> NXFax :-). > That is normally a feature of the RECEIVING fax machine. Some >sending fax software also implements it, but when both sender and >receiver attempt to insert that information, the results can be >over-printed and garbled. The sender sends the cover-sheet. Hi Bruce, I know that the header line is created by the receiving machine, but it uses for that task data sent by the sending machine, in this case the NeXT. Appearently NxFax is not able to send the data needed for that header. B&W sent me a message that their is no possibility of implementing this, because no hooks in the NeXT fax/printer software is available. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> <1994Aug16.174351.25238@cc.usu.edu> Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 09:01:35 GMT Message-ID: <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> this bundle is beautiful too bad i didnt know about it sooner. it works perfectly. thanks guys! -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.programmer From: chou@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Subject: WANTED: HTML editor Message-ID: <1994Aug18.075854.25916@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:58:54 GMT Is there a public-domain or shareware WYSIWYG editor for HTML that works on a 68040-based NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1? As I don't read this newsgroup, please send your reply to: chou@cs.ucla.edu Any pointer is greatly appreciated!!! Cheers, Ching-Tsun Chou
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: root@net23.com (A Humble Treestump) Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:08:16 GMT Message-ID: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net> I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle replacement for mail.app, and pgp... I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail... But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment... Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text encrypted messages? Thanks. Please mail me with replies. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New Feature: Apps are Bailing Out Date: 18 Aug 1994 14:48:09 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <32vsb9$9ll@hearst.cac.psu.edu> I hope you can help me.... Recently I've run into apps exiting for innocuous reasons like clicking on a window or trying to paste from one window to another. I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.2 on black hardware. Afflicted applications include Mail, Mathematica, NewsGrazer, and FrameMaker. The only clue I've got is a FrameMaker error message to the console "maker: Internal error D5A76" which got me the response from Frame of: Please be aware that FrameMaker 3.0.1 has not been tested nor is supported on NeXTSTEP 3.2. It is supported on NeXTSTEP 3.0. Other users have reported getting the Internal Error D5A76. This is due to having too many processes running. Please reduce the number of processes, reboot your machine and relaunch FrameMaker. I'll have a number of apps running; however not an excessive number (IMHO). I do tend to have multiple windows within apps -- especially Mma and FrameMaker. (If I wanted to restrict myself to one app at a time I'd use Windows. ;) NXFax and the modem seem to suck down some processes and I've got a friend who logs into my machine to check his mail.... Any ideas? Thanks, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:54:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> In article <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > this bundle is beautiful > too bad i didnt know about it sooner. it works perfectly. thanks guys! > But only until the end of the month! You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The incompatabilities are triggered September 1, 1994. Needless to say, this would affect both US and non US users of PGP and CryptorBundle. Some relevant excerpts from the PGP_FAQ follow. I have mailed this material the author of CryptorBundle, but so far I have received no reply. Hats off to Thomas for CryptorBundle 1.0. It's a great piece of work, kindly donated to the public. All I can say is, Encore! Encore! -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Q: Is PGP 2.6 an official release from MIT? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 is distributed via the Internet to non-commercial U.S. users by MIT Information Systems, via anonymous ftp from net-dist.mit.edu in the directory pub/PGP. Planning for the PGP 2.6 release was conducted with the knowledge and approval of the MIT administration. The MIT News Office officially announced the availability of PGP 2.6 in a press release dated May 26, 1994. *** Q: Was PGP 2.6 released in cooperation with RSA Data Security, Inc.? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 uses the RSAREF(TM) Free Cryptographic Toolkit (Version 1) licensed by RSADSI. RSADSI has granted MIT permission to access the non-published routines in RSAREF required to support PGP. *** Q: Was Phil Zimmermann involved in the PGP 2.6 release? A: Yes. Zimmermann has been fully involved in the release process. In addition, he approved all code changes from earlier versions of PGP and updated the PGP documentation for version 2.6. *** Q: Can PGP 2.6 interoperate with previous versions of PGP? A: Not completely. There are two different incompatibilities between PGP 2.6 and earlier versions of PGP. The first incompatibility is a deliberate format change that will trigger on September 1, 1994. The intent of this change is to discourage PGP users in the U.S. from using PGP 2.3a, which potentially infringes patents. The second incompatibility is that PGP 2.6 requires signatures to be in PKCS format, which has been the default since PGP 2.3, although PGP 2.3 was able to process non-PKCS signatures. *** Q: What's the effect of the September 1 format change? Will I still be able to use my old keys? Will I still be able to decrypt old messages? A: Both now and after September 1, PGP 2.6 will decrypt messages and uses keys generated by PGP 2.3a. To quote from the PGP 2.6 manual: PGP version 2.6 can read anything produced by versions 2.3, 2.3a, 2.4, or 2.5. However, because of a negotiated agreement between MIT and RSA Data Security, PGP 2.6 will change its behavior slightly on 1 September 1994, triggered by a built-in software timer. On that date, version 2.6 will start producing a new and slightly different data format for messages, signatures and keys. PGP 2.6 will still read and process messages, signatures, and keys produced under the old format, but it will generate the new format. *** Q: Is there a technical reason for the September 1 format change? A: No. The format change is being made for legal reasons, not technical reasons. MIT wanted to bring out a version of PGP that would have the support of RSADSI. RSADSI would not lend their support to a product that fully interoperates with PGP 2.3, which, when used in the United States, potentially infringes patents licensed to them by Stanford and MIT. The intent of this format change is to discourage people from continuing to use the earlier software, which will mitigate the patent-caused problems that have hampered use of PGP within the U.S. The time delay between now and September is to give people adequate time to upgrade to the new software. *** Q: Is there a back door in PGP 2.6? A: No. You need not take our word for it. PGP is distributed in source code, so that you can verify its integrity yourself, or get someone you trust to verify it for you. The 2.6 MSDOS executable file that we distribute has been digitally signed, so you will know that it has not been tampered with. In general, you should be wary of using encryption programs that you receive as object code, whose origin you cannot authenticate. *** Q: There is no patent problem with using PGP 2.3a outside the U.S. Isn't it offensive to impose a change on PGP users around the world to accommodate a legal problem in the U.S.? A: To quote from the PGP 2.6 manual: Outside the United States, the RSA patent is not in force, so PGP users there are free to use implementations of PGP that do not rely on RSAREF and its restrictions. Hopefully, implementors of PGP versions outside the US will also switch to the new format, whose detailed description is available from MIT. If everyone upgrades before 1 September 1994, no one will experience any discontinuity in interoperability. We apologize to PGP users outside the U.S. We are asking them to undergo the inconvenience of making a change to the non-U.S. version of PGP for no technical reason. We hope that the effect of this change, which will remove any legal controversy from the use of PGP in the U.S., will benefit PGP users outside the U.S. as well as within the U.S. *** Q: How can PGP users outside the U.S. upgrade, if PGP 2.6 might be subject to U.S. export controls? A: The format change that will become effective on September 1, 1994 can be accomplished by a simple modification to the PGP 2.3a code, which was developed outside the U.S. MIT has published the new format specification. Consequently, a non-U.S. version of PGP that interoperates with PGP 2.6 can be produced without the need for anyone to attempt to export PGP software from the U.S. *** Q: What is PGP 3.0? A: PGP 3.0 is an anticipated upgrade to PGP. Unlike PGP 2.6, PGP 3.0 will be a major rewrite and reconstruction of the PGP internal software. PGP 3.0 might be ready before the end of 1994, but there are no specific release plans yet. *** Q: Will there be further incompatible changes to PGP? A: Almost certainly. As new features are added, the format of messages and other data structures will no doubt be changed. For example, we have considered adding a new packet type for signatures that places the signature at the end of a signed packet rather then the beginning. This will permit restructuring the PGP software so that it can operate in one pass, with no need to create the numerous temporary files that PGP now creates. This will facilitate applications that are not now currently possible. For example, a one-pass PGP could be used to encrypt data to a tape drive during backup. This cannot be done with PGP today because it would need to create temporary files that consume almost twice as much disk space as the data being backed up! *** Q: Will keys generated prior to PGP 2.6 continue to be usable? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 will always be able to use keys created by prior versions. New keys, generated *after* September 1 will *not* be usable by prior versions of PGP. However we hope that all PGP users will have upgraded to PGP 2.6 or better (or its non-U.S. equivalent) by September. *** Q: Who are the people who are working on the PGP 2.6 release? A: People outside MIT working directly on the 2.6 release are Phil Zimmermann and Colin Plumb. People at MIT coordinating the PGP 2.6 release are Jeff Schiller, MIT Network Manager; Hal Abelson, Prof. of Computer Science and Engineering; Brian LaMacchia, graduate student in Computer Science; and Derek Atkins, graduate student in Media Arts and Sciences. Support from the MIT administration was provided by Jim Bruce, MIT Vice-President for Information Systems; David Litster, MIT Vice-President and Dean for Research; Karen Hersey, MIT Intellectual Property Counsel; and John Preston, MIT Director of Technology Development. *** Q: Are there more questions? A: Certainly. If there are other questions about PGP 2.6 that you think ought to be answered here, please send us to them (at pgp-bugs@mit.edu) and we will try to include answers in future versions of this FAQ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: SoftPC running WfWG? Message-ID: <Cuqqv9.EtF@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:21:06 GMT folks, a very simple question indeed! can one run Windows for Workgroup under SoftPC? has anyone ever done this before? how'd it work? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% S];
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: where can I get fonts? Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:46:24 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3306pg$5kb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Every now and then I get a postscript document with all sorts of fonts that I can't read. Where can I get additional fonts for NextStep? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X window applications Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:59:23 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3307hr$sm5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <32spr5INNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de> In article <32spr5INNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de> s_heidri@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Dietmar Heidrich) writes: > One simple question: By using an X server for NeXTstep, will I be able > to compile and run usual X software like GNUPLOT, idraw etc. ? Yes. However, you may need to also get (ftp.x.org) the source code for some of the libraries, in addition to the X server. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis) Subject: Re: New Feature: Apps are Bailing Out Message-ID: <1994Aug18.170154.28914@atd.rochester.ny.us> Sender: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis) Organization: Huh? References: <32vsb9$9ll@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:01:54 GMT Mark E. Kotanchek writes > Recently I've run into apps exiting for innocuous reasons like clicking on a > window or trying to paste from one window to another. I recently had a similar problem, with another symptom that sometimes the "_" character in a text file would change to the delete character. (a one bit change). Later, the file would revert back to correct, but copies were corrupted. I guessed that there was a memory error. Solution (?) I removed and re-seated all the SIMM modules, not in the same sockets. I don't know whether I fixed it, moved the bad bit somewhere else, or it just randomly doesn't fail any more. al.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads) Subject: SoftPC license for NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Message-ID: <jrhoadsCuotE5.7z8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 16:20:25 GMT The demo license for SoftPC recently expired. Where can I obtain a license and how much does it cost? Thanks for your help! -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jason R. Rhoads Frontier Technology Inc. 530 E. Montecito St., Suite 105 Santa Barbara, CA 93103-3245 Phone: (805)-965.2477 Fax: (805)-965.2478 email: jrhoads@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK) _____________________________________________________________________
From: dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC license for NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Date: 18 Aug 1994 20:02:37 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <330eot$9o7@news.halcyon.com> References: <jrhoadsCuotE5.7z8@netcom.com> Jason Rhoads (jrhoads@netcom.com) wrote: : The demo license for SoftPC recently expired. Where can I obtain : a license and how much does it cost? Thanks for your help! Where can one get a demo of SoftPC for NS3.0? That is other then then CD rom's since my Station came pre-loaded, I don't have the CD, or a CD-ROM drive. Thanks. David Sinn dsinn@halcyon.com
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is ttyscc0 ?? Date: 18 Aug 1994 21:29:37 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <330js1$kbn@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> When running term over a serial line on a NSfIP 3.2 system, I keep getting error messages in /usr/adm/messages like the following: Aug 18 23:22:11 thefly mach: ttyscc0: receive error 2 (-902) Aug 18 23:23:27 thefly last message repeated 80 times Aug 18 23:23:49 thefly mach: ttyscc0: receive error 2 (-902) Aug 18 23:23:49 thefly last message repeated 5 times What does this mean ? I should add that term runs awfully erronous, I keep getting 'remote timed out' and 'bad packet' messages from it. Any idea were to search for the reason of this error ? I think it mainly occurs if there's much traffic on the line. Any help appreciated ! Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with DialUpIP from TransSys Date: 18 Aug 1994 20:01:51 GMT Organization: Phoenix Data Systems, Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <330enf$hvm@dolphin.phoenix.net> I am running DialUpIP version 920904 on black NeXT machine and NS 3.0. Most everything works fine, but I seem to have problems when I try to bring down the SLIP line and then bring it back up again without restarting the machine. If I bringdown the SLIP line manually, I can bring it back up again, but the SLIP driver does not recognize that the line is back up. Instead I get error messages like the ones that would occur with the line down. Messages like "unknown host" and so forth. Any ideas on this? Thanks in advance. Mark Wauchope NeXTmail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: GatorFTP cant follow links Message-ID: <Cuqvzv.F2H@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:11:55 GMT GatorFTP, versions 1.4 - 1.6 seem unable to follow links in directory structures. When a link is returned by the ls command, the ls line for the link appears in the ftp log panel, but the linked file or directory does not appear in the file browser panels at the top. For some servers, such as mathsource.wri.com, which rely heavily on linked files, this renders GatorFTP essentially useless. E.g., *all* actual files on mathsource are links, so *no* actual files appear in the viewer. Is there any fix for this problem? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for metamail binaries Date: 18 Aug 1994 20:03:04 GMT Organization: This Space for Rent. Message-ID: <330epo$3uv@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm looking for a copy of metamail binaries. Anyone have a copy? Nextmail is dandy (uuencode is fine too...) Thanks. -- mallen@nwu.edu Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: NeXT TeX for Intel Message-ID: <CuoIt4.HK@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <MJANTTI.94Aug16174312@medusa.abo.fi> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:31:51 GMT In article <MJANTTI.94Aug16174312@medusa.abo.fi> mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA) writes: > There used to be a package that contained a complete TeX for > NeXTStep (NeXTTeX ?). Does such a package exist for NS/I 3.2? > If so where? A quick search in the standard archives did not > give me anything. You should be able to find it on your NS3.2 User CD in 'NeXTCD/Packages' ;-) Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC & VisualWorks Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:50 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <18AUG199416504973@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Can the Windows version of ParcPlace Systems VisualWorks be run on a NeXT with SoftPC? How about on Intel boxes? Thanks Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Is there PPP software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 01:28:20 GMT I know there are several options for installing a SLIP connection, but are there any PD or commercial packages that provide a PPP connection under NEXTSTEP? -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC & VisualWorks Message-ID: <8256@darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: 19 Aug 94 03:55:27 GMT References: <18AUG199416504973@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de Organization: German National Research Center for IT MCCOLLAM, DONALD E (citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu) wrote: >Can the Windows version of ParcPlace Systems VisualWorks be run on a NeXT with >SoftPC? How about on Intel boxes? >Thanks >Don McCollam >mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu No: not as long SoftPC doesn't support Windows in 'enhanced' mode, which it unfortunately does not. Enhanced mode is slated for the next version of SoftPC, due out RSN. VisualWorks is currently the only reason I have a DOS partition - of course, the VM for Intel already exists, but ParcPlace won't make it run on NEXTSTEP/Intel. If you have a 68k black box, don't bother with SoftPC anyway: the VM is available for NEXTSTEP/68k. Send mail to info@parcplace.com and tell them there's demand for the x86 VM on NEXTSTEP (native) ! Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail] Smalltalker, NEXTSTEPper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen. "I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Frame isn't FAT (was: FrameMaker for Intel) Message-ID: <1994Aug19.024310.25563@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <32e7a5$7rv@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Aug13.211026.9522@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <32pf7d$p5m@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 02:43:10 GMT In article <32pf7d$p5m@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >Darcy BROCKBANK writes: > >>I think that he was more referring to the fact that it doesn't do >>dynamic scrolling. There's nothing more frustrating then scrolling >>your document and having to guess where you're coming out. > >I couldn't agree more. > So, I take it you guys fixed it then! Thanks. How many other dragons were slain? - db -- It's as plain as a Bulgarian pinup -- Rimmer -- She's watching the detectives, it's so cute. -- Costello -- The money will come from an improved economy! -- Parizeau -- I'm an inarticulate American slob -- Stipe -- Oxygen's for LOSERS! -- Confidence -- What a maroon! What an imbessile! What a gulla-bull! -- B.B.-
From: larry@unbc.edu (Larry Gadallah (CTS)) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Date: 19 Aug 1994 05:00:32 GMT Organization: University of Northern British Colombia Distribution: inet Message-ID: <LARRY.94Aug18220032@unbc.unbc.edu> References: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> In-reply-to: rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu's message of 14 Aug 1994 14:13:22 GMT In article <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) writes: > 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I > would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned > especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. > The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of > the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing > against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the > Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. > > I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous > when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped > like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and > nowhere to turn. > > Thanks in advance for any help. Welcome to reality (tm). Show me where it's different and I'll be on the first plane. Sometimes people get close to this utopia, but they are usually very wealthy and not in a hurry, unlike 99% of the rest of us. Seriously, any company or organization can dump you at any time. The best advice I have heard is that if you can't support it yourself, drop it. We use a lot of PCs (generic corner store hardware) and BSDI (with complete source code), so _theoretically_ we can't be stranded as long as we are willing to invest in internal staff to provide support. Other than that, you are on your own as soon as the cash flow to the vendor stops. -- Larry Gadallah <larry@unbc.edu> Operating Systems Programmer (604) 960-5683 University of Northern British Columbia Prince George, BC, Canada -- -- Larry Gadallah <larry@unbc.edu> Operating Systems Programmer (604) 960-5683 University of Northern British Columbia Prince George, BC, Canada
From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble installing 3.1 m68k Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 23:30:22 Organization: System Technology, Inc. Message-ID: <payne440.62.00178246@utw.com> I recently did the deed: bought a brand new MRhead technology'd IBM SCSI-2 1GB hard drive for my shiny new copy of 3.1 to reside on. I put the drive in as required --CAREFUL NOT TO GROUND IT!!-- and popped the floppy in the drive and "bfd"d at the ROM prompt. Problems galore, and I could use another's wisdom, if you can spare it. I got a long string of: SCSI unexpected msg:1 followed by a paragraph of stuff I couldn't decipher. This went on about 10 times before it actually tried to boot, found the kernel, and looked for CD-ROM. It did, and even saw the new drive as: IBM 0662s12 !0 rev as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 then it went on its merry way. A few lines later, I saw something odd: root on sd0a panic: (CPU0) vfs_montroot: cannot mount root then it dumps me to a panic> prompt I guess what I'm asking is: how do I install 3.1 on a brand new hard drive? This is my first black machine, and the Intels never gave me this much trouble, so I'm more than dumbfounded, I'm baffled and, obviously, clueless. SCSI IDs check, termination's cool, all the obvious stuff's been covered. Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot. Carl Payne payne440@utw.com or ci$ 76570,1361
From: mjt@is.us.swissbank.com (Mike Trogni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SQL Query Frontend for NeXTSTEP 3.2 Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:24:55 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <32qi7n$b7@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> I would be *very* interested in demo'ing, hearing about, etc. software that runs under NeXTSTEP 3.2 (intel and m68k) that is a user-friendly SQL frontend to Sybase databases and openservers ! this product would allow users to create joins easily, view database objects, BCP data up, download data down to spreadsheets, etc. thanks Mike Trogni Swiss Bank Corporation, London, UK (UK) 071-711-3039 mjt@il.us.swissbank.com
From: mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with NewsGrazer Date: 18 Aug 1994 19:54:13 GMT Organization: Phoenix Data Systems, Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <330e95$huh@dolphin.phoenix.net> I am running NewsGrazer v.72.3 on Black NeXT machine running NS 3.0. Each time I launch the application, it spends the next 5min searching for active newsgroups. Isn't there a way to save the newsgroup info locally so it does not have to search each time the app is launched? Thanks in advance, Mark Wauchope
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What are practical faxmodem/software combos (3.0 black)? Date: 19 Aug 1994 06:55:46 GMT Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu> Would someone explain how I might use a faxmodem with my cube running 3.0? I found nothing useful in NeXTanswers, and my online dox refer me to the User's Manual, which I have never seen in my life. From memory, I know that there are a precious few, expensive faxmodems, such as DoveFax, that work nicely with the FaXreader app, and the standard Print panel. I do not need any of that. Is there any other way? What I hope for is to use a nice cheap 14.4 faxmodem on a serial port, and some Unix-level daemon sending and receiving faxes sort of like a mail daemon with some ability to manipulate the modem, and to convert whatever-format fax data into TIFF, GIF, EPS-bitmap, or something viewable on my NeXT. Is this asking too much from my $12000 tower of obsoleteness? I know my Unix system administration, but I know nix about faxing. Any information at all would be appreciated. Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NoteAbility (music notation software) Message-ID: <1994Aug18.105307.25318@cc.usu.edu> From: ccall@fiziks.physics.usu.edu (Clayton Call) Date: 18 Aug 94 10:53:07 MDT Does anyone know what the status is of CIUSA or their music notation software NoteAbility? I've downloaded the demo of NoteAbility from cs.orst.edu and have tried to email the addresses given in the info panel, but all of my attempts have bounced. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Clayton Call cc@fiziks.physics.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: NEXTIME and Mac CDROM's Message-ID: <1994Aug18.221854.20795@radical2.radical.com> Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <32rk0j$ov9@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 22:18:54 GMT Garance A. Drosehn writes > <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes: > > I'm trying to use a QuickTime CDROM that is dual-format DOS/Mac. > > When you insert a CDROM using NEXTSTEP it looks for the DOS file > > system before it looks for the Macintosh filesystem. Since the > > disk is a DOS/Mac CDROM it think it's a DOS disk and then NEXTIME > > does not want to load the movies since they are on a DOS CDROM > > and it only works on a Mac CDROM. > > Hmm. Given that it's a QuickTime CD-ROM, and that the QuickTime > movies can presumably be viewed under DOS, I wonder why NeXTIME > won't work at all with the DOS layout. This seems odd... > I've noticed the same problem with DOS/Mac CD-ROM's. When I just try to look at the files in Workspace Manager, I see double filenames and very strange browser behavior. I assume because one entry is for the "resource" file and one entry is for the "actual" Quicktime file. The extensions don't appear when reading the CD ROM in DOS mode. I agree with the original assumption that mounting the CD ROM in Mac mode might make things work. I've tried to mount the CD ROM manually and specify a Mac filesystem, but I can't seem to get it to work. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: IB Bug Message-ID: <1994Aug19.104627.19155@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <32uuog$n42@heron.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 10:46:27 GMT In article <32uuog$n42@heron.cc.gatech.edu> gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia) writes: > In article <32uu2a$n10@heron.cc.gatech.edu>, > Frank Cobia <gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: > >I need help with InterfaceBuilder. It will not launch. Whenever I try to > >launch it, I get an Alert panel that says "Runtime error: NXReadOnlyString: > >does not recognize selector -replaceWith:". > > > >I am trying to fix this by reinstalling the developement package, but I don't > >know that this will fix it. Does anyone have any clues??? > > > > I just finished reinstalling the developer's tools and libraries and I still > have the same problem. Someone please help! > Did you have loaded any palettes into IB? I don't remember how IB stores the names of these, but moving the apropriate palettes to another place and try to restart IB again. Hope that helps, Robert. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\___________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: IB Bug Message-ID: <1994Aug19.113638.20878@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <1994Aug19.104627.19155@fokus.gmd.de> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 11:36:38 GMT In article <1994Aug19.104627.19155@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes: > In article <32uuog$n42@heron.cc.gatech.edu> gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank > > Did you have loaded any palettes into IB? I don't remember how IB stores > the names of these, but moving the apropriate palettes to another place > and try to restart IB again. > Wuff, I've got the place: edit ~/.NeXT/defaults.nidb to change the loading behaviour of IB. Robert. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\___________________________________________________
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there PPP software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 19 Aug 1994 11:31:41 GMT Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK Message-ID: <33256t$3m5@castle.york.ac.uk> References: <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> In article <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com>, alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) says: > I know there are several options for installing a SLIP connection, > but are there any PD or commercial packages that provide > a PPP connection under NEXTSTEP? It's currently being worked on - there are 2 implementations currently being developed and tested. There is a lso a fairly old version lying around for FTP which does the job, but is somewhat out of date and doesn't negotiate very well with modern PPP systems.
From: stufduff@albion.unmc.edu (Sean W. Duffy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC running WfWG? Date: 19 Aug 1994 14:30:10 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska Medical Center, Omaha, NE, USA Message-ID: <332fli$t6l@netserv.unmc.edu> References: <Cuqqv9.EtF@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <Cuqqv9.EtF@nntpa.cb.att.com> btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) [munch a bunch] I tried this once and it bombed pretty bad. WFWG uses 386enh which is unsupported by SoftPC. I tried to upgrade SoftPC using the 3.11 Add On disks. The disks 'installed' but I never got SoftPC up as WFWG 3.11 and ended up reloading SoftPC. Sean (I did WHAT?) Duffy stufduff@albion.unmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush) Subject: Opener and Macintosh files Message-ID: <1994Aug19.150316.20353@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 94 15:03:16 BST Here's an easy one. Using Opener on a .hqx file yields .info, .data and .rsrc files. How do I get these into a single file for use on a Macintosh? Thanks, Gerry Brush Institute of Biological Anthropology University of Oxford 58 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6QS UK
From: willmore@iastate.edu (David Willmore) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 20 Aug 94 02:20:06 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <willmore.777349206@tremplo.gis.iastate.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: >: ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file >: standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. >: SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. >: netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. >The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". It's >decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. >I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. I don't think that what was written implies that. It says that ADPCM is a compression technique--it is. It goes on to say that there are many sould file formats (ADPCM may or may not have anything to do with any particular one). Then the poster goes on to say that they prefer sun .au format. ADPCM stands for Adaptive Differential Pulse Code Modulation. If the differential is 1 bit then it is Adaptive Delta PCM. >Incidentally, .VOC and Mac .snd formats use u-law, but may vary on the >sampling rate. The NeXT .snd format is identical to .au, so it's also u-law. >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. Not normally. It's u-law or a-law depending on your country. Cheers, David -- ___________________________________________________________________________ willmore@iastate.edu | "Death before dishonor" | "Better dead than greek" | David Willmore | "Ever noticed how much they look like orchids? Lovely!" | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories References: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <LARRY.94Aug18220032@unbc.unbc.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 02:53:05 GMT Larry Gadallah (CTS) (larry@unbc.edu) wrote: : In article <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) writes: : > 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I : > would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned : > especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. : > The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of : > the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing : > against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the : > Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. : > : > I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous : > when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped : > like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and : > nowhere to turn. : > : > Thanks in advance for any help. : Other than that, you are on your own as soon as the cash flow to the : vendor stops. There are three ways you can minimize your risk: 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue a product. 2. Buy only software for which you can get source since you can maintain the s/w yourself if/when the vendors ceases to support it or goes bankrupt. 3. Buy only software supported by more than one vendor as you can simply continue under another vendor when your current one disappears. Option 1 limits you in terms of innovation as large vendors are unlikely to come out first with sophisticated new stuff. Option 2 may be prohibitively expensive (in terms of initial source-code purchase and subsequent internal software maintenance.) Option 3 usually only works with software based on "open" standards. NeXT used to fit in none of these categories, making it a pretty risky proposition. Now, with the OpenStep specification and adoption of it by HP and Sun, NeXTSTEP software comes pretty close to fitting into "Option 3". So I think the risk of being dumped like a used tampon if you use NeXTSTEP is minimal - unless you depend heavily on the underlying Intel hardware, as I don't know whether HP or SUN would support that environment under their OpenStep implementation :-) ...but then, these are just my opinions, and they're probably worth what you paid for them :-) Tom +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Anyone have a cisco PNI login script? Message-ID: <Aug.20.00.03.47.1994.10770@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 20 Aug 94 04:03:47 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Ive been struggling with not much luck at trying to get PNI to work with my Rutgers cisco server. Ive finally am willing to accept that its my incompetence at setting up the login-cisco.tcl script. So Im hoping some one out there will help me take the easy way out and send me their login-cisco.tcl script. Hopefully it will work with my Rutgers cisco server. Muchas gracias, in advance Later, John
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTIME and Mac CDROM's Date: 20 Aug 1994 06:18:42 GMT Organization: schiele computertechnik, 76199 Karlsruhe Message-ID: <334782$l9v@ts1.schiele-ct.de> References: <1994Aug18.221854.20795@radical2.radical.com> In article <1994Aug18.221854.20795@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) writes: > Garance A. Drosehn writes > > <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes: > > > I'm trying to use a QuickTime CDROM that is dual-format DOS/Mac. > > > When you insert a CDROM using NEXTSTEP it looks for the DOS file > > > system before it looks for the Macintosh filesystem. Since the > > > disk is a DOS/Mac CDROM it think it's a DOS disk and then NEXTIME > > > does not want to load the movies since they are on a DOS CDROM > > > and it only works on a Mac CDROM. > > > > Hmm. Given that it's a QuickTime CD-ROM, and that the QuickTime > > movies can presumably be viewed under DOS, I wonder why NeXTIME > > won't work at all with the DOS layout. This seems odd... > > > > I've noticed the same problem with DOS/Mac CD-ROM's. When I just try to > look at the files in Workspace Manager, I see double filenames and very > strange browser behavior. I assume because one entry is for the > "resource" file and one entry is for the "actual" Quicktime file. The > extensions don't appear when reading the CD ROM in DOS mode. I agree with > the original assumption that mounting the CD ROM in Mac mode might make > things work. > > I've tried to mount the CD ROM manually and specify a Mac filesystem, but > I can't seem to get it to work. > > -- > > Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) > Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted > rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from > the usual or traditional: EXTREME You can manitupulate the order of checking filesystems and make it check the MAC filesystem first: It depends on the order you create the files in /usr/filesystems. So just drag all the files there into the recycler and then drag them back in the order you want the filesystems checked by the File Viewer. -- Jochen Richter Phone: +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de Germany
From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.9b Date: 20 Aug 1994 06:57:53 GMT Organization: TransSys, Inc., Nitwittery Eradication Division Message-ID: <LOUIE.94Aug20025753@wa3ymh.transsys.com> References: <32gseh$s85@cedar.mr.net> <CuJM0M.DH@relief.com> In-reply-to: jjfeiler@relief.com's message of Sun, 14 Aug 1994 20:53:10 GMT > ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submssions/TranSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz This URL doesn't work - its spelled wrong ^ TransSys The definitive location for new releases is ftp://ftp.uu.net/vendor/TransSys or in this case ftp://ftp.uu.net/vendor/TransSys/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz Stuff on the other archive sites tends to get moved to unpredictable locations. -- Louis A. Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
From: paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I get gcc-2.6.0 compiled on NS3.2 (black) Date: 20 Aug 1994 09:23:29 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <334i2h$s8o@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Hi, I just tried to compile gcc-2.6.0 on my NeXT and failed. The first stage just went fine but the second stage then does not work. Obviously some of the header files are broken and I have to admit that I was completely lost in the jungle of #ifdef's when I tried to figure out what. I configured gcc with: m68k-next-ns3 When starting stage2 I get: gmake CC="stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/" CFLAGS="-O" LDFLAGS="" libdir=/usr/local/lib LANGUAGES="C" gmake[1]: Entering directory `/private/Net/ifr12/artos_disk/gnat/gcc-2.6.0' stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -DIN_GCC -O -I. -I. -I./config \ -DGCC_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-ns3/2.6.0/include\" \ -DGPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/g++-include\" \ -DLOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/include\" \ -DCROSS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-ns3/2.6.0/sys-inc lude\" \ -DTOOL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/m68k-next-ns3/include\" \ -c `echo ./cccp.c | sed 's,^\./,,'` In file included from cccp.c:77: stage1/../include/stdio.h:128: parse error before `size_t' stage1/../include/stdio.h:164: parse error before `fread' stage1/../include/stdio.h:164: parse error before `size_t' stage1/../include/stdio.h:164: warning: data definition has no type or storage class stage1/../include/stdio.h:166: parse error before `fwrite' stage1/../include/stdio.h:166: parse error before `size_t' stage1/../include/stdio.h:166: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from cccp.c:83: stage1/../include/sys/resource.h:82: field `ru_utime' has incomplete type stage1/../include/sys/resource.h:83: field `ru_stime' has incomplete type cccp.c: In function `special_symbol': cccp.c:3907: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:3908: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:3908: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:3910: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:3910: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:3911: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c: In function `initialize_builtins': cccp.c:9071: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:9072: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:9072: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:9077: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:9077: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type cccp.c:9077: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gmake[1]: *** [cccp.o] Error 1 Obviously size_t and struct timeval are not defined, but don't ask me why. Does any of the wizards out there have any idea? Michael -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Dipl.-Ing. Michael Paus (Member: Team Ada) | |University of Stuttgart, Inst. of Flight Mechanics and Flight Control | |Forststrasse 86, 70176 Stuttgart, Germany | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Phone: (+49) 711-121-1434 FAX: (+49) 711-634856 | |Email: Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (NeXT-Mail welcome)| |----------------------------------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Is there PPP software for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CusJ8I.552@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:31:29 GMT In article <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: > I know there are several options for installing a SLIP connection, > but are there any PD or commercial packages that provide > a PPP connection under NEXTSTEP? Yes: 1. Commercial (cost $400) Vendor: Morningstar 2. Public Domain FTP location: (forgot, anyone know where the latest lives?) Status: in Beta -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale Brisinda) Subject: WordPerfect .WPG Graphics Format -> TIFF/GIF/EPS Converter Message-ID: <BRISINDA.94Aug20010547@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:05:47 GMT Does anyone know of a NEXTSTEP utility or program that will convert from WordPerfect .WPG graphics format to some other more recognizable format like TIFF, GIF, EPS, or other? Dale -- dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail Welcome) brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Tel: +1 (403) 220-7687 Fax: +1 (403) 281-5242
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there PPP software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:09:42 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <332lg6$osb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> <33256t$3m5@castle.york.ac.uk> In article <33256t$3m5@castle.york.ac.uk>, pete french <pete@ohm.york.ac.uk> wrote: >In article <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com>, alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) says: >> I know there are several options for installing a SLIP connection, >> but are there any PD or commercial packages that provide >> a PPP connection under NEXTSTEP? > >It's currently being worked on - there are 2 implementations currently >being developed and tested. There is a lso a fairly old version lying >around for FTP which does the job, but is somewhat out of date and >doesn't negotiate very well with modern PPP systems. Morning Star Techonologies have PPP for black and Intel available now. Mail sales@morningstar.com for more information. I use it and it works just fine. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** An untapped energy source: our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves. PGP public key furnished on request.
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how to compile web2c-6.1 on a NeXT machine??? Date: 19 Aug 1994 19:38:29 GMT Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug19153829@acs3.bu.edu> References: <32512s$cpq@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> To: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu In-reply-to: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu's message of 8 Aug 1994 06:23:24 -0400 In article <32512s$cpq@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes: Did anyone have any luck compiling web2c-6.1 on a NeXT machine? I couldn't on my NS 3.2 black 68040 cube. Any advice? Thanks. I got it to compile sometime this year because I needed to create a BiBTeX with some more function space (i.e. changing one number in the web source). It's sitting here compiled on my '040 cube running 3.0, and I don't remember any problems with it, in fact I remember the whole make process being admirably streamlined. I have gcc, though, and a lot of other gnu utilities installed. Let me know the trouble you're having (by email); I'll see if I can help.
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bibliography Software for NeXT or SoftPC? Date: 19 Aug 1994 19:46:42 GMT Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug19154642@acs3.bu.edu> References: <CupCME.n5@ants.ci.net> To: jmeacham@ants.ci.net In-reply-to: jmeacham@ants.ci.net's message of Wed, 17 Aug 1994 23:15:49 GMT BibTeX is a good one, but the only program I _know_ that is set up to use it conveniently is LaTeX.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: help with NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CusJ5n.51C@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <330e95$huh@dolphin.phoenix.net> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:29:46 GMT In article <330e95$huh@dolphin.phoenix.net> mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope) writes: > I am running NewsGrazer v.72.3 on Black NeXT machine running NS 3.0. Each > time I launch the application, it spends the next 5min searching for > active newsgroups. Isn't there a way to save the newsgroup info locally > so it does not have to search each time the app is launched? Did you click on Group > Subscribe to subscribe to your favorite groups, and then go to Info > Preferences to set your mode to List (not Browser)? -- personal opinions
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: access to filters (Services) Date: 19 Aug 1994 19:29:44 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <333178$bu2@zip.eecs.umich.edu> I understand that a pasteboard can be used to filter data with the actual filter supplied by another program. For instance, I want to convert a jpeg file to a tiff image and I would like to use ImageViewer.app to do the conversion. If one looks into the services file of ImageViewer it shows in part, the following: Filter: convertToTiff Port: ImageViewer SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:jpeg SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:jpg SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:JPG ReturnType: NXTIFFPboardType So how do I get this to work? I thought that I would have to put the filename onto the pasteboard, then get an NXImageRep instance to get the filtered data off from the pasteboard, but I can't seem to get it to work. Below is the method in question, which fails at the canInitFromPasteboard: message with a memory access violation at address 0x0. - getImage:sender { BOOL enterFlag; int length; id test; const char* pbTypes[] = { {NXFilenamePboardType}}; [textField setStringValue:"testimg.jpg"]; pasteboard = [Pasteboard newByFilteringFile:"testimg.jpg"]; length = strlen("testimg.jpg"); [pasteboard declareTypes:&pbTypes[0] num:1 owner:NULL]; test = [pasteboard writeType:pbTypes[0] data:"testimg.jpg" length:length]; enterFlag = [NXImageRep canInitFromPasteboard:pasteboard]; if (enterFlag) { image = [NXImageRep allocFromZone:[self zone]]; [image initFromPasteboard:pasteboard]; } return self; } Thanks in advance Craig Rasmussen University of Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: GatorFTP cant follow links Message-ID: <CuuBG5.9Ks@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <Cuqvzv.F2H@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 15:38:28 GMT In article <Cuqvzv.F2H@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > GatorFTP, versions 1.4 - 1.6 seem unable to follow links in directory > structures. When a link is returned by the ls command, the ls line for the > link appears in the ftp log panel, but the linked file or directory does not > appear in the file browser panels at the top. > > For some servers, such as mathsource.wri.com, which rely heavily on linked > files, this renders GatorFTP essentially useless. E.g., *all* actual files > on mathsource are links, so *no* actual files appear in the viewer. > > Is there any fix for this problem? > > -- > Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca > Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca > York University Voice: 416 736 5118 > 4700 Keele Street > Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA Get version 1.7 off of uhoop.egr.uh.edu -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug19.051357.25362@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 19 Aug 94 05:13:57 MDT References: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net>, A Humble Treestump <root@net23.com> wrote: >I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle >replacement for mail.app, and pgp... > >I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail... >But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result >is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment... > >Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text >encrypted messages? > >Thanks. Please mail me with replies. > >Nick > > >-- >Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider >razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area >Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" >Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info >To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com For this you need NXPGP.app. Compose the message and encrypt in place. You also need it to decrypt messages sent by mere mortal mailers. :) Now, how does one incorporate encryption into Workspace Manager? (Vote for pgp support in Opener.app now!)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener and Macintosh files Date: 19 Aug 1994 22:36:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <333c4r$6cu@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <1994Aug19.150316.20353@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> In article <1994Aug19.150316.20353@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush) writes: >Here's an easy one. Using Opener on a .hqx file yields .info, .data >and .rsrc files. How do I get these into a single file for use on a >Macintosh? The easy answer is, don't use Opener. Transfer .hqx to Mac, and unpack it there. BinHex files are for doing exactly that sort of thing. A harder approach is to unpack it MacBinary file and transfer that using FTP that understand such a file. Opener.app/macunpack -H will tell you how you can create MacBinaries and you can edit Opener.app/Opener.table if you always want to create MacBinaries instead of 3 fork files. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Deleting old news Message-ID: <Cuq7ru.Az@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:28:42 GMT Hi everyone, I hope you can help me on these two little problems : 1. Even though I checked the box in order to ignore the .sig file, NewsGrazer puts my signature at the end of every posted news. How can I get rid of that ? 2. doexpire now works perfectly, thanks to everyone. The problem was that there was like a hole in my files. For instance, I had messages 1-125 and then a jump to 850-967. I don't know why, but doexpire wouldn't work. I had to manually delete the early files and dince then doexpire works. The problem is that it doesn't seem to read all my explist files because for every newsgroup, it uses the /expired/ value of 14 days. Could someone tell me why is that and how to coorect it ? Thanks a lot -- Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd. Av. Davel 18 1004 Lausanne
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What are practical faxmodem/software combos (3.0 black)? Date: 21 Aug 1994 19:03:24 GMT Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug21150324@acs3.bu.edu> References: <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu> To: swift@bu.edu In-reply-to: swift@bu.edu's message of 19 Aug 1994 06:55:46 GMT The unanimous response has been to get a 3d party product called NSFax: "Call Black&White Software (802)496-8500 for info on NXFax and NXFax/Zyxel bundles. Their email is nxfax@bandw.com. The software is $135. You can probably find the modem for a little less than their bundle minus $135, but I got mine from them just to support a fledgling software company." (wrote Mark Adler). This package is said to integrate very well with the NeXTstep environment, be usable from the command line via some available pd programs; and support a good number of 14.4 class II fax/modems. Thanks to all who responded. Matt Swift
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GhostScript fonts have no diacrits? Date: 21 Aug 1994 16:33:47 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9408212129.AA01533@cantina.lanl.gov> I've been using GhostScript for almost a week now for printing to a HP DJ560C, but today was the first time I tried to print something in Spanish (from a PasteUp document). It omits all the characters with accent marks or tildes over them. Is this a known behavior? If so, is there a workaround? In contrast, the special (non-Spanish) character which is an "oh" with a slash through it (formed by <alt-o>) does get printed, so obviously some of the 8-bit characters are there all right. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: HP Emulation Needed Message-ID: <1994Aug21.181643.1291@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 18:16:43 GMT Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve HP emulation in NEXTSTEP. Specifically we need HP 2392A, 2622A, or HP2624B. THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <Cuw5Av.K5@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 15:20:52 GMT Hey, I want to point to a great tool, Its PASTRY, which adds more then one cmd-x/c into pasteboard. Choosable what you want to paste again. Also a possibility for locking items so that they appear with every new start of machine. Further showing contents in a seperated window and many more features. And then also separated pasteboards for fonts/rulers and findings! For me and daily work I don t want to miss it anymore!! Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: [HELP]: GNATS 3.2 - query-pr quits with memory fault Message-ID: <1994Aug21.041701.10851@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 04:17:01 GMT I get the following memory fault when using command line options with query-pr in release 3.2 of gnu GNATS under NS 3.2. > memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap > zsh: 10727 IOT instruction query-pr -s=closed Does anyone know what the problem is or how to correct this? Is anyone else running GNATS under NEXTSTEP 3.2? Please email suggestions or comments. Thanks! -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CuxyL4.FMG@txnews.amd.com> Followup-To: What.a.ding.dong Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:51:02 GMT In article <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) posts to: Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.nex t.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Thomas, Think you've got enough newsgroups crossposted here? On second thought, why don't you post to every newsgroup on the Usenet? -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) Subject: [HELP] can't find the FAQ Message-ID: <Cuxxn9.8ox@lehman.com> Sender: news@lehman.com (News) Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. References: <willmore.777349206@tremplo.gis.iastate.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:30:45 GMT Hi, Can someone tell me where to find the FAQ? I couldn't locate it. Also, I tried to install tcl (tk?) on the next intel but didn't succeed ( it wouldn't link), is there a special version of tcl/tk for the next platforms? Thanx in advance- ------------------------------------------------------- John Safar jsafar@lehman.com I've seen things that you people ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: Proxima experiences? (mailer package) Message-ID: <Cuy114.C3D@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:43:51 GMT folks, i'm looking for people's experiences in using the mailer package Proxima on NeXTSTEP. My main interest is in how it handles microsoft attachments thru different platforms. thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> Sender: usenet@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:47:18 GMT > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: > > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue > a product. I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. --jeff wright
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Message-ID: <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 19:31:31 GMT In article <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > > You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears > that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the > US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. > insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities > with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the standard here in Europe). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FSP binaries or tools? Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:22:07 -0400 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <33atsv$j3@shiva.UU.NET> Does anyone have an FSP binary or tool they would like to send me compiled for NeXTStep? I just cannot get the thing to compile and would rather use it than FTP. Any help would be appreciated. -- ------ Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed) http://stravinsky.acc-lab.american.edu:3001 "The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph "Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Lexicor@world.std.com (ysiu@lexicor.com) Subject: G-Tech info please? Message-ID: <CuyC6x.5y2@world.std.com> Organization: Lexicor Software Corporation Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:44:56 GMT Hi everybody, I've been wondering if any of you have heard of a company called G-Tech wo develope for the Next System, as a matter of fact I would like to know what products they are selling. Thanks for any information you can provide Cheers Yat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Making xmitBin Message-ID: <Cuxw57.Aw9@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:58:18 GMT I'm trying to compile xmitBin_1.9 (for sending binaries as split uuencoded segments) on NS 3.0. The SUPPORT file says it has been built successfully for NS 3.1, but cc complains: hotspur:xmitBin-1_9 [56] % make cc -c -DSysVMail -DDIR_H -DTMPDIR='"/tmp"' -DxmitBinRev='"1.9"' xbmain.c xbcomm.h:17: header file 'unistd.h' not found *** Exit 1 Stop. I don't know what unistd.h is supposed to be. Has anyone successfully built this? Can you suggest a fix? thx, -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willi@infoman.com Subject: Is it posiible to run Lotus Notes in SotfPC/Intel ? Message-ID: <1994Aug22.204623.630@infoman.com> Keywords: SoftPC Sender: root@infoman.com (Operator) Organization: Information Management Inc. Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 20:46:23 GMT does anyone have Lotus Notes installed on SoftPC for Intel? Any help would be much appreciated. thanks willi -- willi@infoman.com (NeXTMail preferred) Willi Berger Information Management Inc. (Object Channel Members) 150 E. Ponce De Leon Ave., Suite 430 Decatur, GA 30030 ph: (404) 377-4840 ext. 314
From: claude@pressure2.colorado.edu (Claude Carlier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need valid e-mail address for Ciusa Date: 22 Aug 1994 23:01:04 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <33bang$lhs@lace.Colorado.EDU> Hi, I am trying to get some information on TypeView by Ciusa. I have tried sending mail to ciusa@cup.portal.com (the address listed in NeXT's Third Party catalog), but it bounced back with a message saying that the account was temporarily suspended. I have left a message on their answering machine but they didn't call back. I need to get the info and eventually purchase TypeView soon, very soon! Does anyone have a valid e-mail address. Also, if anyone knows whether this App works with EquationBuilder, please let me know. Thanks. Claude Carlier carlier@pressure2.colorado.edu (NeXTMail)
From: lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: can I change from click-to-focus to focus-follows-mouse? Date: 22 Aug 1994 18:52:03 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Message-ID: <LIM.94Aug22115203@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> Is there a way to change the way you switch "key windows" (i.e. the window with the focus) from click-to-focus to focus-follows-mouse? I would like the key window to automatically change to whichever window the mouse is in without clicking in it. This feature is available under the Motif window manager.
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FSP binaries or tools? Date: 23 Aug 1994 04:58:41 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <33bvm1$dc0@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33atsv$j3@shiva.UU.NET> Mickey Lasky spewed: : Does anyone have an FSP binary or tool they would like to send me compiled : for NeXTStep? I just cannot get the thing to compile and would rather use it : than FTP. Any help would be appreciated. : Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net I can not help you or answer your question, but I have one to ask. You talk as if FTP and FSP are the same. If you do not know the difference, you should know that FTP is not a direct connection, and you will only get ~ 1/3 to 1/10 of the throughput. If you do know what you are talking about....... Nevermind. :) Chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: Re: What are practical faxmodem/software combos (3.0 black)? Message-ID: <CuyD0q.G1@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. References: <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 20:02:50 GMT In article <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu> swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) writes: > > Would someone explain how I might use a faxmodem with my cube running 3.0? Try NXFax from Black & White Software. It supports a wide variety of fax modems. Here is the list as of v1.04 (taken from NXFax's online Help): Features* Fax --------- ----- Modem dr aa speed -------------------------------------------------------- Boca 14.4 . X 14400 Intel 144/144E . . 14400 MultiTech MT1432BA . X 14400 Neuron 1414 with ZyXEL ROM upgrade X X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXMT . X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXPKT . X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXSA . X 14400 SupraFAX 14.4 v32.bis . X 14400 Telebit T3000 with fax option . . 9600 Telebit WorldBlazer with fax option . . 9600 Zoom VFX . X 14400 ZyXEL U1496E X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496E Plus X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496 X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496 Plus X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496B (internal) X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496B Plus (internal) X X 14400 Key: X - Yes . - No dr - distinctive ring aa - adaptive answering * Features listed supported as of this writing The folks at B&W have been very supportive at times of trouble (ie, tech support). I use a SupraFAXModem 14.4k on a TurboColor station. You can get most of these modems for a very good price via mail order. You can reach B&W at: Black & White Software Bridge Street Marketplace Waitsfield, VT 05673-1210 (802) 496-8500 nxfax@bandw.com Good luck. --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325 dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:58:50 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <33bola$q1h@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. 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From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (CA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 23 Aug 1994 09:43:05 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <33cgb9$bqc@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> In article <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: > What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" > version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have > problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the > standard here in Europe). > I'd say whichever solution means that I can send encrypted mail to both NeXTMAIL and non-NeXTMAIL users in both the US and outside the US. If that means we all have to upgrade to 2.6 (and 2.6i = int'l version), so be it. It seems that the sooner everybody upgrades to 2.6, the less relevant this problem becomes. If cryptobundle sticks to 2.3a, itn't just perpetuating the difficulties? I'm already using 2.6i under DOS to encrypt emails to colleagues in the US. No probs. Can't crypobundle do something similar with nextmail using 2.6 and it's int'l version?? Is the crypto algorithm in 2.6i not "legally clean"? C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Deleting old news Message-ID: <Cuxrsp.nD@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <Cuq7ru.Az@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:24:25 GMT In article <Cuq7ru.Az@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: > 1. Even though I checked the box in order to ignore the .sig file, > NewsGrazer puts my signature at the end of every posted news. How can I > get rid of that ? I've got the same problem. More concrete: If I check the box, the .signature file is written twice under my messages, first time, when I open the message window, the second time after sending the message. If I don't check the box, it's written after sending the message. Look at the example under this message ;-) The second time only the first three lines of the .signature file are written. No matter, if the box is checked or not. Very interesting behaviour ;-) bye, Michael --- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome) *** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please) -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 23 Aug 1994 09:55:15 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <33ch23$ol7@nic.lth.se> References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> In article <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: >The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) >some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use >PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will >be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have >the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. > >What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" >version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have >problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the >standard here in Europe). The "Standard here in Europe" has changed, from pgp-2.3a to pgp-2.6ui, which is based on pgp-2.3a, but compatible with MIT pgp-2.6 (the "ui" stands for "unofficial international") -- that is, it produces messages that can be read by MIT pgp 2.6 even after the September 1 deadline, but is available outside of the US. Sticking with pgp-2.3a would be the wrong thing to do, IMHO. > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de > >Brooks's Law: > Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later >------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hoff@nahe (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOOM: saved games from DOS -> NEXTSTEP ?! Date: 23 Aug 1994 10:56:46 GMT Organization: German National Research Center for IT Distribution: world Message-ID: <33ckle$4e6@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> To those who arew DOOMed: Has anybody successfully reloaded saved games from DOOM/DOS into DOOM/NEXTSTEP ? I keep getting an 'unknown tclass <some number>' error. A bug in the current NEXTSTEP version ? Any hints would be cool! Holger (waiting for sound in 1.666 >:) -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail] Smalltalker, NEXTSTEPper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen. "I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: jcallowa@nando.net (James Calloway) Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences,comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.soft-sys.sas,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 1994 Software Developers Competition medal criteria Followup-To: poster Date: 23 Aug 1994 07:58:32 -0500 Organization: NandO.Net -- News & Observer Internet Public Access Sender: rick@sparky.sterling.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <33crpo$srr@sparky.sterling.com> Keywords: competition, database, RTP, medal, criteria The following six-part message contains information about the gold medal categories for the 1994 Developers Competition. The competition will be held Oct. 6-8 in Durham, North Carolina. This information is being posted on this newsgroup to solicit input on the criteria selected. We welcome feedback and are doing this specifically to insure that the competition is as fair to all the different languages as possible. Additional information can be found obtained by anonymous ftp at ftp://ftp.nando.net/pub/droege in zipped form (dcmp94.zip) or at ftp://ftp.nando.net/pub/droege/unzipped in ASCII text. Also information has been posted on the web at http://www.nando.net And of course you may email us directly: Thomas Droege <71333.3015@compuserve.com> - Tom Droege 1994 Developers Competition 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria General Guidelines This year the Developers Competition will evaluate five specific areas of interest and award Gold, Silver and Bronze medals to the best teams. These guidelines answer specific questions about the "Gold Medal Rounds". 1. Medals will be awarded in the following categories: Graphical User Interface (GUI) Rapid Application Development (RAD) Client/Server Object Oriented Programming (OOP) MultiMedia 2. Each medal round has its own set of judging criteria. 3. Each team may select 1 or 2 medal rounds to compete in. 4. Qualification for the medal rounds is determined by your ranking in the "general" competition. In order to qualify for the medal round, your finish in the general competition must rank within the top 6 teams in your category. When you qualify, the gold medal judge will contact you to review your application for the gold medal criteria. For instance, if after the first round of judging the teams competing in the Client/Server Category were ranked 2nd, 5th, 10th, 20th, 25th, 26th, etc... in the general competition, those teams would advance to the medal rounds. Any other Client/Server teams, even if they could score a perfect 100 on the Client/Server criteria would NOT qualify. 5. The Gold Medals consist of one ounce of pure gold stamped with the logo of the 1994 Developers Competition. The category will be engraved on the medal. Only one gold medal will be given to each of the 5 winning gold medalist teams. A second, gold plated, silver medal will be given to each of the 5 winning gold medalist teams. Second and Third place teams will each receive two silver and two bronze medals respectfully. The specific criteria for each of the gold medal rounds follow: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria Graphical User Interface 1. Graphical Design: (Window design, Screen design) ____ 0-8 Pts. Practical & Efficient - Show how the GUI design used is Practical in its presentation and show the Efficient use of the full screen and use of user windows. ____ 0-8 Pts. Consistency - Demonstrate how the user interface is Consistent and flows through from screen to screen. ____ 0-8 Pts. Icons - Demonstrate how the Icons are self documenting and useful to the users. ____ 0-5 Pts. Controls - Are adequate Controls implemented to facilitate ease of use. Show how the variety of control options available have been put to good use. ____ 0-5 Pts. Pull Downs - Show how the Pull Downs represent all the needed functionality necessary for the application. Have important options been left out. ____ 0-5 Pts. Dialog Boxes - Demonstrate the Dialog Boxes being implemented in a useful manor. What kind have been implemented(Modal/Modeless)? Are any cascading? ____ 0-5 Pts. Colors - Are Colors pleasant and professional to the normal user. ____ 0-5 Pts. User Customization(Colors,Sizes,Fonts,Etc.) - Can user change parameters easily. 2. Error Handling: ____ 0-5 Pts. Error logging - Demonstrate how this is done in a easily understood and self documenting manner. ____ 0-5 Pts. Single input error - When showing a single input error is error responded to or is just an OK box displayed. ____ 0-8 Pts. Multiple errors - Show how multiple errors resolved (range dependencies etc.) 3. Menu: ____ 0-8 Pts. Consistency of choices - Demonstrate how Menu choice is consistent from item to item and menu to Menu. ____ 0-5 Pts. Accelerator keystrokes - Show the Accelerator Keystrokes available. Do all the functions have accelerator keystrokes associated with them. 4. User Feedback: ____ 0-5 Pts. Visual - Demonstrate clear self documenting feedback. ____ 0-5 Pts. Audible - Demonstrate a distinguishable tone for the user. 5. On-line Help: ____ 0-5 Pts. Context Sensitive - Show how easy it is to switch to help when needed. ____ 0-5 Pts. 3rd party tools that do a better job - Demonstrate how any 3rd party utilities have been used. Have 3rd party tools been used to fill in the places where they could do a better job. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria Rapid Application Development The RAD (Rapid Application Development) Gold Medal Round will be based on successful implementation of additional new tables and reports that will be provided Friday morning. It is basically "more of the same" requirements that are provided in the general specification. You can count on 3 more tables and 2 more reports that must be developed and integrated into the rest of the application. A script will be provided in the morning to demonstrate each of the following criteria. 1. Data Entry and Maintenance (25 pts). ____ 15 pts. Show the Data Entry and Maintenance capabilities for each of the 3 new tables. ____ 10 pts. Demonstrate the integration of the new tables with the rest of the application as described in the specifications. 2. Relational Capabilities (25 pts). ____ 5 pts. After editing the records as shown in the script demonstrate that the Relational integrity has been maintained. ____ 5 pts. Delete the records indicated. Show the results of the cascading delete. ____ 15 pts. You will need to add, edit and maintain child, parent and many-to-many records with relational relationships. 3. Reporting (30 pts). ____ 15 pts. Report #6 ____ 15 pts. Report #7 4. User Interface / Subjective Criteria (20 pts). ____ 10 pts. Does the RAD part look as professional as the rest of the application or does it look "rushed". ____ 10 pts. Is the screen design, user interface, help features, documentation as complete as the rest of the application? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria Client/Server ____ 15 pts. Demonstrate that the processing is divided between the desktop and server. Start the client program while the server is stopped. Illustrate the client program does not work. Start the server program independently of the client. Illustrate the client program now works properly. ____ 10 pts. Illustrate the ability to access data using different client programs. For example, run your application in one window and run Interactive SQL in a separate window. ____ 10 pts. Illustrate usage of SQL in your application. Run it interactively. Show a code fragment which uses SQL. ____ 10 pts. Create an index independent of the application and then run your application. ____ 10 pts. Grant/revoke security privileges to access specific tables of data. Demonstrate the program working with and without security privileges. ____ 5 pts. Demonstrate the usage of stored procedures and/or triggers with your application. ____ 15 pts. Illustrate in a program fragment how your application uses transaction processing. Commit and rollback are used with proper checking of error status codes. your system. Show how when you attempt to delete a parent row which has corresponding children, the server rejects the deletion. ____ 5 pts. Does your client/server implementation support ODBC? supplied with your server. Show status of who has - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria Object Oriented Programming 1. Encapsulation ____ 0-4 Produce a list of the classes used in your design. ____ 0-4 For each class (chosen by the judges) identify the access functions (messages), instance variables, and class variables (if any) defined for that class. ____ 0-4 For each chosen class identify the implementations (methods) associated with the access functions (messages). ____ 0-4 For each chosen class show that the code text that describes the programmer's interface to the class (or library, or module) is textually separate from the code text that describes its internal implementation details or secrets. ____ 0-4 Design decisions encapsulated by class definitions should be motivated by rational criteria. For example, they should hide decisions likely to change over time, or vary between versions of the system. ____ 0-4 Choose a class that encapsulates a specific design decision. What design decision is encapsulated? What advantages accure from encapsulating that decision in a class definition? 2. Inheritance ____ 0-4 Produce a diagram of classes used in the system illustrating the inheritance relationships between the classes. ____ 0-4 Identify which classes were derived from pre-existing class libraries. ____ 0-4 Which classes were newly defined to create this system? ____ 0-4 Demonstrate the use of inheritance in your system. Change a class definition and demonstrate that the change is reflected in an object of an inheriting class. 3. Style ____ 0-4 Describe what naming conventions exist in the prexisting classes and libraries you use. ____ 0-4 Describe what naming conventions you use. ____ 0-4 Naming conventions conform to standards used in the preexisting code incorporated into the system. (Points assigned by judges upon inspection of code text chosen by the judges.) ____ 0-4 Readability and adherence to professed conventions (as determined by the judges). 4. Reuse ____ 0-4 What pre-existing software class libraries were reused to construct the application? ____ 0-4 What new class libraries, APIs and documented interfaces appropriate for reuse were created? ____ 0-4 Reusability (as subjectively determined by the judges). Would other programmers choose to reuse the facilities provided by this code over alternative libraries or rewriting? 5. Persistent Objects ____ 0-4 Is management of reading and writing to persistent storage centralized in a persistent objects class? ____ 0-4 Is a persistent objects class used for database data? ____ 0-4 Are persistent objects used for application specific data such as objects representing user profiles? ____ 0-4 Are persistent objects used for saving and restoring the user's desktop context? 6. Conceptual Clarity ____ 0-4 The classes and objects chosen should correspond to a conceptual model that is easy to comprehend. This model should help judges predict how the system will respond to specific commands. (Points assigned based on judge's subjective evaluation of the clarity and accuracy of you explanation.) ____ 0-4 Access functions (methods) defined should exhibit useful mathematical properties that simplify reasoning about programs that use them. (e.g. Inverses (open / close), Idempotence ( reset() ; reset()), Commutivity (open(a) ; open(b)) = (open(b) ; open(a)). Identity ( concatinate ("abc", ""); ). Choose three algebraic properties (not restricted to this list) and describe how they apply to specific assess functions (messages) you have defined. ____ 0-4 What is your policy for allocating and freeing resources to guard against resource exhaustion? How would one inspect the code text to verify that this policy is adhered to? (e.g. For every new, we identify the corresponding delete.) ____ 0-4 What is the name of your program? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1994 Developers Competition - Gold Medal Criteria Multimedia 1. Capture/Import Still Color Images, Display Images (30 pts). (1)(3)(5) Show images inserted into records captured from a real-time source such as an electronic camera or camcorder. (1)(3)(5) Show images inserted into records from scanned photographs (photographs provided) use scanner to scan image. (1)(2)(3) Show at least three (3) formats of image files that can be imported and inserted into records. 1 for each (max 3 (2) points), 2 points if images can be imported from PhotoCD's. (1)(3)(5) Show how images can be resized and/or cropped to fit a standard record size and shape. 5 points if application resizes automatically. (1)(3)(5) Show images being displayed in conjunction with their associated records. (1)(3)(5) Show how the image can be zoomed from a partial screen to full screen or more. 2. Display and Selection by Thumbnail Images (5 pts). (2) Show a set of records for browsing by displaying a set of "thumbnail" images from their attendant records. (3) Show once an image is selected that the associated record is displayed and the image zoomed simply by pressing a single key. 3. Capture/Play Sound (15 pts). (1)(3)(5) Show sound can be recorded and attached to records from a microphone. (1)(3)(5) Show sound can be recorded and attached to records from a tape cassette or from a CD player. (tape cassette provided) (1)(3)(5) Show that captured sound files can be recalled with their associated records and played. 4. Capture/Play Video (20 pts). (1)(3)(5) Show video sequences can be recorded and attached to records from a VCR (VHS video tape provided). (1)(3)(5) Show that captured video sequences files can be recalled with their associated records and played. (1)(3)(5) Show single frame captures are possible. (1)(3)(5) Functionality, show easy VCR like controls for playback, pause, rewind and fastforward. 5. Desktop Publishing and Laser Reports (20 pts). (3) Demonstrate how the program can output a Postscript file. (Either output to a postscript printer or use a text editor to show postscript header information in file). (1)(2) Show reports produced with headers/footers and page numbers. (1)(2) Show reports that include graphics and photographic images. (1)(2)(3) Show how the program controls the reproduction quality (halftone screen lines/inch) to match output requirements. Show a "laser printer quality" report that includes the following: (2) Proportional fonts. (2) Line drawn boxes. (2) Shaded and non-shaded boxes. (2) Proportionally printed and centered captions. (2) Boxes connected with lines and arrows. 6. Data Collection by OCR (5 pts). (1) Show data collection using Optical Mark Reader from a preprinted Optical Mark Reader form. Show data collection using OCR technology from the following: (1) Capture from a hand written form (1) Capture from a typed form (1) Capture from a printed form (1) Capture from a fax 7. Graph information (5 pts). (3) Show an 'on screen' display with a graphic representation (i.e. line, bar or pie chart) of a relevant data set. (2) Show a printed report with a graphic representation (i.e. line, bar or pie chart) of a relevant data set. Maximum points will be awarded for meeting all criteria using supplied original data, photographs, tapes etc. Partial credit will be awarded if substituted data is used to show the multimedia functionality or display. (1)(3)(5) (1) point for demonstrating any ability. (3) points for doing so without closing application. (5) points for doing so without leaving application.
From: erik@amg.de (Erik Doernenburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 23 Aug 1994 13:10:29 GMT Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Distribution: world Message-ID: <33csg5INNgjo@hagen.amg.de> References: <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> In article <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: > The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) > some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use > PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will > be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still > have > the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. > > What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" > version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have > problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle > (the standard here in Europe). A quote from the PGP FAQ: (I know that they've been posted here a couple of days ago.) > Q: There is no patent problem with using PGP 2.3a outside the U.S. > Isn't it offensive to impose a change on PGP users around the world > to accommodate a legal problem in the U.S.? My A: Yes, it is! Especially if the reason for the so called problem is totally ridiculous. Furthermore, the answer and its subtle ironic undertone make me find it even more offensive. > A: To quote from the PGP 2.6 manual: > > Outside the United States, the RSA patent is not in force, so > PGP users there are free to use implementations of PGP that > do not rely on RSAREF and its restrictions. Hopefully, ^^^^^^^^^ > implementors of PGP versions outside the US will also switch > to the new format, whose detailed description is available > from MIT. If everyone upgrades before 1 September 1994, no > one will experience any discontinuity in interoperability. > > We apologize to PGP users outside the U.S. We are asking them to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > undergo the inconvenience of making a change to the non-U.S. version > of PGP for no technical reason. We hope that the effect of this I think that in theory the decision wether to install a new PGP version or not is left to the user and therefore terms like `asking to' and `hopefully' would be correct. But in reality, due to the US-American dominance in the Internet, users outside the US are more or less forced to adopt the new standard. And I'm convinced that this is the reason why the solution of the `legal problem' that was found by US-americans is convenient for them -- i.e. no more hassle with the RSADSI -- and inconvenent for the others. I cannot help it, but their `hopefully' reads like: `We are going to change anyway. We are important. If you want to communicate with us, get your software changed as well!' > change, which will remove any legal controversy from the use of PGP > in > the U.S., will benefit PGP users outside the U.S. as well as within > the U.S. How will users outside the U.S. benefit from the change? Maybe by alleviating their boredom when they have to do some installation work just to keep a software package running? :-) To come back to your question, Thomas: I would be willing to change a version in which technical problems are solved or the functionality is enhanced. Yes, I would even install a new version of PGP if that would help people with non-ASCII writing systems like Kanji. But I think at a point where users all over the world are practically forced to waste their time due to some strange -- and much debated -- legal problem, it is at least time to clearly utter your annoyance. Therefore -- and I am aware that this is a simple one-on-one -- I would prefer it if you would release the next version of the CryptorBundle with PGP-2.3a. If there is interest within the US they might find somebody to do the changes which are necessary to handle their changes to PGP! erik PS: Please send responses (or flames) to my private e-Mail Address since the opinions expressed above are mine and not the ones of the AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH. Yes, I have a PGP key. ___________________________________________________________ Erik Doernenburg AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH erik@amg.de (work) Joseph-von-Fraunhofer Str. 27 erikd@sultan.ping.de (home) 44227 Dortmund, Germany
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:13:48 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC? A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90. ----------------------------------------------------- Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error) SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2 --------- -------- ----- ------------- 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor, 2x CD-ROM. Why are we all so anxious to gravitate to the HP platform when there are dealers who will NeXTstep certify the Intel based platforms? Does the HP platform offer something other than equivalent performance. I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS v3.3. NeXT has made a tremendous dent into the financial apps market. Although high end graphics are great, but do we really need 24-bit or true color (as opposed to 8 or 16 bit color). Therefore, for most of us developing applications, are we willing to pay up $5000 per workstation for graphics? The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP ($1000), please advise. If I am missing something, please correct me. Thanks in advance. Peace, James p00378@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cs221442@comp.hkp.hk (Hsieh Shing Leung Arthur (BACS3 Class A)) Subject: Websterd: get exception in NeXT 3.0 Message-ID: <CuzqHz.Bu6@hkpu01.hkp.hk> Sender: usenet@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Usenet Account) Organization: Department of Computing, Hong Kong Polytechnic University Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 13:51:35 GMT After compiling the websterd in Webster-alpha5.tar.gz package found in cs.orst.edu:pub/next/binaries/tools, I tried to test it from command line as follows: csnext01:~%2 websterd & Then I used the webster client on SunOS machine to connect the webster server. The connection was successful but it exited with following message after a word was typed at the Word: prompt on the client. csnext01:~%3 Uncaught exception #10000003 [1] Exit -1 websterd According to the README on top level directory of source tree, it should run on NeXTStep 3.0 or later. Mine is NeXTstation running NeXT Mach 3.0 and I think the websterd should work for it. There is a reference to file /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/Dictionary from websterd.8 but my NeXT version doesn't have this file. Instead, only the following is found in /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 14262272 Mar 27 1992 CompactDictionary -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 196602 Oct 26 1990 codebook drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 1024 Mar 28 1992 info/ drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 1024 Jul 3 1991 tiff/ Does anyone have the solution? I sent the same message to the author a week ago but don't get any reply, so I hope I can get help from the net. If you do followup, please send an e-mail copy to me as my site has one week news delay. :-( Thanks -- Arthur Hsieh cs221442@comp.hkp.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lxl@nexus.ih.att.com (lian.lin) Subject: Help needed in using Pinnacle Sequence software in NeXT Message-ID: <CuzwwG.2q7@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Network Wireless Systems Busines s Unit Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 16:09:52 GMT I was trying to make my Sequence (by Pinnacle - used to be called Presto) program in the NeXT computer to work with my MIDI keyboard via the Opcode Studio 4 MIDI interface. Two problems I ran into that I need help: 1) I was able to record notes from the keyboard to the Sequence program, but the playback part (from the Sequence to the keyboard) did not work at all. Sometimes it only played back a few notes sparingly. The Sequence comes with a couple of MIDI examples files, I also failed to play them back after setting the correct channels and program change numbers. 2) I could only use serial port B to work with Sequence and Studio 4 MIDI interface. The machine just hung when I switched to A port. Any help will be appreciated. Lian Lin
From: eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 23 Aug 1994 16:51:18 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> > 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 > 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 > Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) How 'bout numbers for a high end PA box? -E
From: cormier@tivoli.tivoli.com (Mike Cormier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help in allowing a user login be a program, not /bin/csh Date: 23 Aug 1994 19:01:43 GMT Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc. - Austin, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <33dh2n$fnl@tivoli.tivoli.com> Hi All, I have created a user 'info' whose login shell is a program '/info/prog' instead of /bin/csh. It has no password. However, when I try to login as this user, I get '/info/prog: restricted'. The program is executable to the world, so it's not a permissions problem. I just don't know enough about NeXTSTEP security to figure this out :-( Any help is appreciated! Mike cormier@tivoli.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Message-ID: <1994Aug23.200842.19872@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:08:42 GMT In article <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu writes: >>> 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 >>> 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 >>> Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) >> >>How 'bout numbers for a high end PA box? >> >>-E I'm pretty sure that my 99MHz HP 735 (You can get 125MHz ones now), clocks in at 150 on the spec fp92 (which I believe corresponds to the 79 above). -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help in allowing a user login be a program, not /bin/csh Date: 23 Aug 1994 16:54:45 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <33dnml$53a@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <33dh2n$fnl@tivoli.tivoli.com> In article <33dh2n$fnl@tivoli.tivoli.com> cormier@tivoli.tivoli.com (Mike Cormier) writes: : I have created a user 'info' whose login shell is a program '/info/prog' :instead of /bin/csh. It has no password. However, when I try to login :as this user, I get '/info/prog: restricted'. The program is executable :to the world, so it's not a permissions problem. I just don't know :enough about NeXTSTEP security to figure this out :-( : :Mike : :cormier@tivoli.com I think you need to add '/info/prog' to the file '/etc/shells' in order to have login accept the new shell. --Dave -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Calender application? Date: 23 Aug 1994 21:00:53 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no> Is there a free- or shearware calender application for Intel somewhere? -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 23 Aug 1994 20:58:15 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <33dnt7$p29@sundog.tiac.net> References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1994Aug23.200842.19872@news.media.mit.edu> In article <1994Aug23.200842.19872@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: >In article <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu writes: >>>How 'bout numbers for a high end PA box? > >I'm pretty sure that my 99MHz HP 735 (You can get 125MHz ones now), clocks >in at 150 on the spec fp92 (which I believe corresponds to the 79 above). *poof* you now have an extra 17 SPECfp points :), HP lists the 735/99 at 167.9. Does your machine feel faster now ? heh. All of this stuff is on HP's WWW site: http://www.wsg.hp.com/wsg/Global/Products/Ds700.html They list all the various config's, spec.s and options. Handy. -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TransSys Date: 23 Aug 1994 21:38:15 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <33dq87$rg3@news.nd.edu> I am trying to buy CSLIP from TransSys. BUT anytime i send email i get automated answer and that DOES NOT have their phone number or address or ordering information. Can anybody help me in this. thanks.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 23 Aug 1994 22:24:36 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <33dsv4$omg@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> writes: >Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC? >A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90. >----------------------------------------------------- >Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error) > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2 > --------- -------- ----- ------------- >712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 >712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 >Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) You make me appreciate still being in edu land! I believe the SPECfp92 for the 712/80 should be 122, not 79. This makes the 712/80 especially nice for float-intensive work. But I'm starting to wonder if the 712/60 is really competitive with the P90, since I can get a P90 system from eCesys for slightly less than the comparable 712/60, even at educational prices. --David Finton
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there PPP software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 23 Aug 1994 22:56:16 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <33duqg$p0j@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> <CusJ8I.552@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: >In article <CurDF8.7tx@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes: >> I know there are several options for installing a SLIP connection, >> but are there any PD or commercial packages that provide >> a PPP connection under NEXTSTEP? >Yes: > 1. Commercial (cost $400) > Vendor: Morningstar > 2. Public Domain > FTP location: (forgot, anyone know where the latest lives?) > Status: in Beta >-- >personal opinions What about NS/HP? Is there SLIP software for the new Gecko? Thanks, David Finton
From: aies6@rosie.uh.edu (Luong, Jessica) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help on FAX/modem equipment. Date: 23 Aug 1994 17:57 CDT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <23AUG199417575570@rosie.uh.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I am trying to find a FAX/modem to install on my Turbo Cube running NS3.0 So far, it seems like the only solution is NXFax as the driver. This is fine with me. It's just that I have not been able to find out who sells NXFax or how much it costs or what FAX/modem will work with NXFax. If someone could reply with info on: 1> Who sells NXFax (how to get intouch with them)? 2> What do you suggest as to the FAX/modem itself (brand,model, etc...)? 3> How difficult is it to install (driver & modem) to the NEXT station? 4> Any bit of information that you think would help? I am looking to FAX from the GUI instead of from command line. Thanks in advance for your help.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing from NS/HP ? Date: 23 Aug 1994 23:01:13 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <33dv3p$p2t@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Keywords: HP, printing, ?? Can one print from the new HP Gecko, without buying an expensive PostScript printer? I was thinking something like Dots would do the trick, for printing to an ink-jet printer. But Dots doesn't have an HP version yet. Anyone know if there's something comparable that works for HP now---or soon? Thanks, --David Finton
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calender application? Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:15:12 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4iKd4EC00iV0I8DKMw@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Aug-94 Calender application? by Eystein Dugstad@timotei. > Is there a free- or shearware calender application for Intel somewhere? Yeah: type 'cal 1994' in a terminal window.... :-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <Cuw5Av.K5@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:58:17 GMT Manfred Roehr <manroe@manki.toppoint.de> wrote: > >I want to point to a great tool, Its PASTRY.. I concur. Pastry is very cool. Thanks Robert. :) Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com> Subject: SLIP on white hardware Message-ID: <netnewsCv0Jx9.Axr@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: Netcom Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 00:27:08 GMT I'm setting up NeXTStep 3.2 on a new GW2000 P5-90. So far everything has been installed and works except networking. I need a SLIP connection available. I got something by Louis Mamakos off an FTP site, but it looks ancient and certainly didn't run on my system. Is there something that does SLIP with the latest hardware on the latest system? Also, my NeXT is on basically an AppleTalk ethernet network using the Intel EtherExpress card. The drivers and such loaded fine, but the Preferences program still doesn't even show the apple icon to let me enable AppleTalk networking. I went into HostManager per the online docs NeXT provided and setup a non-NetInfo system, but either I did it wrong or something is screwy. What's up with these things? -Frank __________________________________________________________________________ | Frank Price | Email:wprice@netcom.com | | ______ | Other:wprice@wprice.slip.netcom.com | | \ / | | | \ / | | |_____\/_______|_______________________________________________________ __|
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 24 Aug 1994 00:40:21 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <33e4tl$rpf@news.worldlink.com> > <Nathan Janette> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu wrote: > The correct entries are: > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price > --------- -------- ----- > 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no CDROM) > 712/80i 84 79 not sold > 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no CDROM) > Pentium/90 87 72 $ 5,000 (list, w/CDROM) Thanks for the update ... what's your source? > Those were special prices offered as incentives to purchase > NEXTSTEP/Intel. Those deals have expired, I believe. What > makes you think there won't be a similar offering for > NEXTSTEP/HP? In market economies (such as comp.sys.next.marketplace), the price of something amounts the price at which it is readily available. NS/FIP lists for $2500; was introduced at $300 and is currently trading around $800. NS/HPPA is being offered between $2200 and $3000 from various VAR/VADs. Unless you know something no one else does, what makes YOU think that NeXT is going to offer NS/HPPA at a special deal? If you really do know something, share the wealth so that we all might not waste big money. Frankly, I find the "wait and see" attitude towards the NS/HPPA platform generating a price depression on NS/FIP. Certainly the 712/60 is not worth the effort unless you are marketing a development product to those users. But I can not see users migrating to the 712/60 side of the NS/HPPA platform for the performance, can you? At $10-11k, the 712/80 (uncrippled) better produce advantages far greater than the 2:1 price ratio implies. Overall, I am hopeful. NeXT needs a good shot in the arm (hardware wise). If there are any NS/HPPA success stories out there, please post or email them. People are hungry to hear them. Peace, James p03378@psilink.com > -- > Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 > Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 > Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu > Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help on FAX/modem equipment. Date: 23 Aug 1994 19:31:17 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <33ebdl$i6k@crl4.crl.com> References: <23AUG199417575570@rosie.uh.edu> In article <23AUG199417575570@rosie.uh.edu>, Luong, Jessica <aies6@rosie.uh.edu> wrote: >I am trying to find a FAX/modem to install on my Turbo Cube running NS3.0 > >So far, it seems like the only solution is NXFax as the driver. >This is fine with me. It's just that I have not been able to find out who >sells NXFax or how much it costs or what FAX/modem will work with NXFax. > >If someone could reply with info on: >1> Who sells NXFax (how to get intouch with them)? >2> What do you suggest as to the FAX/modem itself (brand,model, etc...)? >3> How difficult is it to install (driver & modem) to the NEXT station? >4> Any bit of information that you think would help? Here is what I got from sue@bandw.com in reply to my query only a few days ago. Best Regards. --chip(cnayak@crl.com) ========================== edited w/o permission =========================== NXFax has been tested with and supports the following Class 2 fax modems: Boca Research - Boca 14.4 Intel - Intel144/144E MultiTech - MT1432BA Practical Peripherals - FXSA, FXMT, FXPKT Supra - SupraFAX 14.4 v32.bis Telebit - WorldBlazer, T3000 Zoom - VFX ZyXEL - all U-1496 models Note that NXFax does not support Class 1 modems. You can get NXFax 1.04 electronically if you have FTP access or can receive VERY large NeXTMail (about 1.3 meg). * Via FTP NXFax (multi-architecture version only) can be obtained at Oregon State (cs.orst.edu). NXFax 1.04 is in pub/next/demos/comm. The files are: NXFax1.04.tar NXFax1.04.README.txt * ANDI Info Server NXFax can be sent to you automatically via NeXTMail from the ANDI info server. To obtain NXFax this way, send mail to info@andi.org. The subject you specify will determine what gets sent to you. Type the subject exactly as shown in the chart below: NXFax 1.04 Subject ---------- ------- Multi-architecture Send BlackandWhite NXFaxInstaller.app NeXT only Send BlackandWhite NXFaxInstaller.app.m68 README file Send BlackandWhite NXFax1.04.README.rtf If you get the "NeXT only" version, be sure to rename it to NXFaxInstaller.app before you try to launch it. ======================= stuff deleted ========================
From: hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu (Jack &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: c++ on Black NS 3.2 not functional Date: 24 Aug 1994 02:57:32 GMT Organization: California State University Sacramento Distribution: world Message-ID: <33ecus$35o@news.csus.edu> Hello all, OK, the c++ doesn't work on NS 3.2 and everyone but me knows it already. I read a supposedly frequently answered question file which told me where to go to get fixes. It must be a VERY old FAQ, because none of the files were there...otherwise I would not post this question. Does anyone know a cheap (read disk space) way to get the c++ compilation to work without fouling Objective C or anything else? If it invoves libg++-1.39.0.tar.Z and NeXTmods-rls3.tar.Z then I need better ftp addresses than prep.ai.mit.edu and next242.ece.orst.edu, respectively. Thanks for any assistance, Jack Hodges Assistant Professor of Computer Science San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu
From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to convert DSP port to a serial port? (and where can i get software) Date: 20 Aug 1994 07:00:44 GMT Organization: TransSys, Inc., Nitwittery Eradication Division Distribution: World Message-ID: <LOUIE.94Aug20030044@wa3ymh.transsys.com> References: <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> <32ockq$b7a@agate.berkeley.edu> In-reply-to: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 15 Aug 1994 18:37:14 GMT In article <32ockq$b7a@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: In article <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com writes: > >Is there a device for that? You only need to buy a driver called TTYDSP from Yrrid (sp?). No hardware other than cable is really needed because the DSP port already has a standard async serial port (SCI), in addition to a synchronous serial port (SSI). It's not a "standard" cable, as it contains TTL/RS-232 line drivers and receivers. Of course, if all you need is TTL levels.. I believe that TTYDSP uses the SCI port on the DSP, plus a bunch of software to make it all work. -- Louis A. Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Printing from NS/HP ? Message-ID: <1994Aug24.093626.950@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: DART Software GmbH References: <33dv3p$p2t@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 09:36:26 GMT In article <33dv3p$p2t@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > Can one print from the new HP Gecko, without buying > an expensive PostScript printer? > > I was thinking something like Dots would do the trick, > for printing to an ink-jet printer. But Dots doesn't > have an HP version yet. > > Anyone know if there's something comparable that works > for HP now---or soon? We are about to release DOTS for HP PA RISC in about 4-6 weeks from now. We only got the final HP release this week and it takes a while to test all configurations and printers. Expect to see DOTS on the archives by end of September. Wilfried Beeck DART Software GmbH
From: hunter@werple.apana.org.au (James Gardiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 1994 23:57:23 +1000 Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne Message-ID: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> I know NextStep use to be able to do EtherTalk. On the black hardware anyway!! It does not seem to be present on my NS/I machine. Can I get the atalkd etc needed to do AppleTalk from my Next system running on Intel?? Please help. Thanks, James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Message-ID: <Cv1n8E.F79@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:36:13 GMT In article <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> hunter@werple.apana.org.au (James Gardiner) writes: > > I know NextStep use to be able to do EtherTalk. On the black > hardware anyway!! > It does not seem to be present on my NS/I machine. > Can I get the atalkd etc needed to do AppleTalk from my Next system running > on Intel?? Please help. > You can get it, but it's not part of the system and it isn't free. Appletalk support appeared in the 3.0 black release, and was subsequently dropped- much to the chagrin of a lot of people. Appletalk connectivity is available from a third party, but don't ask me who. -- Jay Bright jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <Cv1MzL.81I@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:30:55 GMT In article <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: >>Manfred Roehr <manroe@manki.toppoint.de> wrote: >>> >>>I want to point to a great tool, Its PASTRY.. >> >>I concur. Pastry is very cool. >> >>Thanks Robert. :) >> >>Eric I for one think it qualifies for a *way* cool rating :--) -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com
From: eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 1994 14:59:56 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <33fn9c$prl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> James Gardiner writes > I know NextStep use to be able to do EtherTalk. On the black The 3.0 appletalk feature was removed (sold?) prior to release of 3.2 (i.e. it's gone). -E
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:18:19 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <33fobr$hat@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> <Cv1n8E.F79@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) writes: >In article <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> hunter@werple.apana.org.au >(James Gardiner) writes: >> >> I know NextStep use to be able to do EtherTalk. On the black >> hardware anyway!! >> It does not seem to be present on my NS/I machine. >> Can I get the atalkd etc needed to do AppleTalk from my Next system >running >> on Intel?? Please help. >> >You can get it, but it's not part of the system and it isn't free. >Appletalk support appeared in the 3.0 black release, and was subsequently >dropped- much to the chagrin of a lot of people. Appletalk connectivity >is available from a third party, but don't ask me who. Information Presentation Technologies, Inc. Partner--Provides NEXTSTEP users with AppleTalk client support and AppleShare server support. IPT's Partner offers additional options not available with NeXT's AppleTalk client software, including bi-directional file-sharing, bi-directional printing, print spooling, print queue management, icon binding/mapping and electronic mail. Also can enable printing to PostScript printers connected to Apple networks. San Luis Obispo, CA 800-233-9993 805-541-3000 info@iptech.com Disclaimer: I do not own this, I checked into it for a client about 2 years ago and was told that it was BAD by several users (whose names IPT gave me !!! )and not worth it (the server side, that is). I am certain that they are on a new version by now. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: rouanet@frbdx11.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr (ROUANET - Old VM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WAV-TO-SND Date: 24 Aug 1994 16:49:18 GMT Organization: CRIBX1 , Universite de Bordeaux I , France Message-ID: <33ftme$pe0@serveur.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr> Were can I find a .wav to .snd converter? Thank you for your help. J.Francois Rouanet
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: c++ on Black NS 3.2 not functional Date: 24 Aug 1994 09:10:23 -0700 Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA Message-ID: <33frdf$s7f@kerby.ocsg.com> References: <33ecus$35o@news.csus.edu> In article <33ecus$35o@news.csus.edu>, Jack & <hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu> wrote: >Hello all, > >OK, the c++ doesn't work on NS 3.2 and everyone but me >knows it already. I read a supposedly frequently >answered question file which told me where to go to >get fixes. It must be a VERY old FAQ, because none of >the files were there...otherwise I would not post >this question. > >Does anyone know a cheap (read disk space) way to get >the c++ compilation to work without fouling Objective >C or anything else? If it invoves libg++-1.39.0.tar.Z >and NeXTmods-rls3.tar.Z then I need better ftp >addresses than prep.ai.mit.edu and next242.ece.orst.edu, >respectively. > I do a considerable amount of C++ work on the NeXT but very little Objective-C. My work is APIs and network level thingys such as Kerberos. I used GNU C 2.5.8. It provides the functionality I need. It's template support needs work but is functional. It does not have exceptions (bummer, my code would be cleaner). To compensate for the compiler's syntax checking deficiencies I compile my code using CSet++. For NeXT black you should apply the patches I've included. I do not recommend you use GNU C 2.6.0. It has ambiguity resolution bugs that prevent my code from compiling. -dpg *** orig/config/m68k/m68k.md Mon Jul 18 19:22:44 1994 --- ./config/m68k/m68k.md Fri Jul 22 21:21:20 1994 *************** *** 3798,3803 **** --- 3798,3804 ---- (match_operand:SI 2 "const_int_operand" "n") (match_operand:SI 3 "const_int_operand" "n")))] "TARGET_68020 && TARGET_BITFIELD + && (INTVAL (operands[2]) == 8 || INTVAL (operands[2]) == 16) && INTVAL (operands[3]) % INTVAL (operands[2]) == 0 && (GET_CODE (operands[1]) == REG || ! mode_dependent_address_p (XEXP (operands[1], 0)))" *************** *** 3851,3856 **** --- 3852,3858 ---- (match_operand:SI 2 "const_int_operand" "n") (match_operand:SI 3 "const_int_operand" "n")))] "TARGET_68020 && TARGET_BITFIELD + && (INTVAL (operands[2]) == 8 || INTVAL (operands[2]) == 16) && INTVAL (operands[3]) % INTVAL (operands[2]) == 0 && (GET_CODE (operands[1]) == REG || ! mode_dependent_address_p (XEXP (operands[1], 0)))" -- Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:51:41 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <33fqad$3ut@news.iastate.edu> References: <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> <Cv1MzL.81I@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cv1MzL.81I@txnews.amd.com>, <Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com> wrote: >In article <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) >writes: >>>Manfred Roehr <manroe@manki.toppoint.de> wrote: >>>> >>>I concur. Pastry is very cool. ...but, where is it? Is it in cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util? Thanks for the help. Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS m68k Midi Time Piece Config app! Message-ID: <1994Aug24.145311.5636@zion.com> Keywords: MIDI Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:53:11 GMT ___________________________________________________________________ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: David J. Ferrero Zion Software & Consulting. 56D Nanel Drive Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA tel: 203-659-4257 fax: 203-657-3542 email: mtp@zion.com Price: $20 shareware donation requested. ****** AVAILABLE NOW ****** ___________________________________________________________________ Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS m68k Midi Time Piece Config app! Glastonbury, Conn., August 18, 1994 - Zion Software & Consulting announced the submission of MTP: a Midi Time Piece configuration application. MTP is a configuration tool for the Midi Time Piece (a sophisticated multiport midi interface). It was written to assume the job which the Macintosh DA did for the MTP on the Macintosh Computer. In order to register this program, receive support and upgrades, as well as be able to open, save, and make default MTP configurations, a shareware donation of $50 payable to Zion Software & Consulting is requested. PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS * view MTP connection status * view MTP settings * change MTP settings ** save changes to MTP default ** save changes to file ** load MTP with saved changes from file AVAILABILITY: MTP is available on Internet archive servers such as cs.orst.edu. About the company: Zion Software & Consulting is based in Connecticut, and specializes in Custom and Commercial Software Development and consulting with the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP environment. Other shipping products include: ** Checkers - an improved 1.5 Checkers application compiled MAB! ** TeleComm - inexpensive/robust modem software with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation, x,y,zmodem file transfer. ** ZionDECView objectware - Palettized VT100/ANSI color terminal emulation for MCCA development. MTP is a registered trademark of Mark of the Unicorn, Inc. NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP are a registered trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc. Apple Macintosh is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS MAB Checkers 1.5 Message-ID: <1994Aug24.145423.5694@zion.com> Keywords: Checkers Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:54:23 GMT _________________________________________ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: David J. Ferrero Zion Software & Consulting. 56D Nanel Drive Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA tel: 203-659-4257 fax: 203-657-3542 email: checkers@zion.com Price: $20 shareware donation requested. ****** AVAILABLE NOW ****** _______________________________________________________ Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS MAB Checkers 1.5 Checkers for Intel/NeXT Game Lovers! Glastonbury, Conn., August 18, 1994 - Zion Software & Consulting announced the submission of MAB Checkers: a new version of the original NeXT Checkers. Compiled for both NeXT and Intel NEXTSTEP environments. "We added game save and load features, improved the overall speed by fifty five percent, as well as made it available for Intel users." said David Ferrero, President at Zion. PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS * Checkers game with 3 levels of difficulty. * Unlimited undo! * M68K/Intel MAB compiled. * Game Save/Restore with undo. * 55% speed increase over version 1.0 AVAILABILITY: Checkers is available on Internet archive servers such as cs.orst.edu. A $20 shareware fee is requested if you enjoy the game and want more good NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP products. About the company: Zion Software & Consulting is based in Connecticut, and specializes in Custom and Commercial Software Development and consulting with the NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP environment. Other shipping products include: ** MTP - Midi Time Piece Configuration application for MTP/Midi NeXT users. ** TeleComm - inexpensive/robust modem software with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation, x,y,zmodem file transfer. ** ZionDECView objectware - Palettized VT100/ANSI color terminal emulation for MCCA development. NEXTSTEP is a registered trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: CDPlayer.app problems Message-ID: <1994Aug24.133932.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 18:39:32 GMT Can anyone help me play music CD in NS/I 3.2? I've got a NEC CDR84 SCSI CDROM at SCSI ID=2 and a SyQuest 88MB at SCSI ID=0. CDPlayer.app doesn't play my music cd's. I changed the SCSI ID's to make the CDROM rsd1h (I think) but still no luck - CDPlayer just chugs along without any messages - it just gives me a spinning cursor. If I try in insert an audio CD, NeXT just asks me to eject the disk - says it's unreadable. Any ideas? Scott Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Internet Mail Only
From: rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca (Rob Wylie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 94 15:09:10 Organization: National Research Council of Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROB.94Aug24150910@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca> References: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> <33fn9c$prl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> In-reply-to: eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu's message of 24 Aug 1994 14:59:56 GMT And neither CAP nor netatalk work on the NeXT (near as I can tell, mayb CAP would work if you had a gatorbox or equivalent gateway). Oh, and I (naively) tried running atalkd and ashared (from 3.0) under 3.1... with no satisfaction. If NS comes with support for Novelle (I think it does) why unbundle appletalk support? RobW
From: Theo_Petersen@suite.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software resellers? Date: 24 Aug 1994 19:27:38 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <33g6va$rt7@bilbo.suite.com> Are there any companies that are reselling NEXTSTEP software, as NeXTConnection used to do? -- --Theo Theo_Petersen@suite.com |Dedicated to the End of "It can't rain all the time." -- Eric Draven |the World as We Know It.
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with Librarian Date: 24 Aug 1994 20:19:26 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <33ga0e$9ig@gateway.wiltel.com> Keywords: Librarian Links .rtfd files I have a problem with Librarian: I have .rtfd files with links embedded in them. Once I add the folder into Librarian, the links no longer work! WHY? Better yet, what can I do to correct this? Mike Zemina Wiltel
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.robotics Subject: Looking for 68HC11 EVBU developement (share|free)ware Date: 24 Aug 1994 20:26:56 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <33gaeg$g51@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I am taking a course in microcontrollers and I would like to get a hold of some developement tools that will let me develope under command line UNIX, X-Windows, or NeXTSTEP. These of course would have to either be free or relatively inexpensive. If they're not NeXTSTEP based I would have to get the source to compile under BSD 4.3. As an aside I remember seeing someone in either next.programmer or other such groups ask about a similiar thing a few months ago. If you're out and you have any info or software I can use I would like to hear from you. John Stanhope
From: jbettis@cse.unl.edu (Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 24 Aug 1994 20:57:07 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <33gc73$pc9@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: >In article <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu >(John Devlin) writes: >> >> You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears >> that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the >> US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. >> insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities >> with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The >The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) >some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use >PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will >be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have >the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. >What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" >version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have >problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the >standard here in Europe). I would vote to use PGP 2.6. Not only is it legal, but it has several bugs fixed that were present in v2.3 and is all in all a superior product. I would hope that the next release of CryptorBundle will either take out the notice that it is distributed under the GPL, or follow through and include source code. If it had, we would not still be using pgp 2.2. Someone could of fixed it a long time ago. -- Jeremy Bettis -*- PGP Public key available -*- University of Nebraska INET: jbettis@cse.unl.edu "Those who stand in the middle of the UUCP: jeremy@tddi.UUCP,jeremy@hksys.com road are often hit by passing cars." Running Linux -- The Free Unix for i386/i486/Pentium machines. Ask me how.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan Subject: ISE EIFFEL 3 AVAILABLE ON NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cv252v.FDF@aetnacan> Sender: usenet@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:01:43 GMT FYI...just got a fax stating the following: (all dollars are Canadian, US will be less and any typos are mine :) ====================================================== ISE EIFFEL 3 AVAILABLE ON NEXTSTEP FOR $1375 AUGUST 29, 1994 - Jay Kell Technologies Inc, Canadiandistributor for Interactive Software Engineering, Inc (ISE) of Goleta, CA announced that ISE's softwrae development environment ISE EIFFEL 3 is now shipping on the NEXTSTEP operating system, both on NeXT hardware and Intel-based 486 and Pentium PC's. ISE EIFFEL 3 provides a powerful and user-friendly O-O programming environment designed for large, complex systems. ISE EIFFEL 3 is an integrated GUI workbench consisting of a variety of Eiffel-based components: EiffelBench melting-ice workbench, EiffelVision graphics and GUI library, and EiffelBase basic libraries. The environment features ISE's Melting Ice Technology, a revolutionary compiling technique supporting extrememly fast incremental compilation. The environment includes numerous object-oriented tools for class documentation and browsing, and several hundred library classes totaling thousands of directly usable operations. ISE Eiffel for NEXTSTEP includes a version of EiffelBench based on NEXTSTEP and Display Postscript, with the addition of standard cut and paste mechanisms and printing of any window. The EiffelVision library for NEXTSTEP allows the creation of graphical applications that are fully portable between the NEXTSTEP environment (where they are based on the NeXT AppKit and Display Postscript) and other X/Motif based platforms. NEXTSTEP-specific components for interfacing to Objective-C libraries are also available separately. Eiffel has been acclaimed as the object-oriented language of choice for quality software development, as evidenced in the book OBJECT-ORIENTED APPLICATIONS (Prentice Hall, 1993) which consists of a technical overview and seven chapters, each devoted to a significant Eiffel-based project at such companies as MPR Teltech (Canada), GEC-Marconi Research Centre (UK), TNO Building and Construction Research (Netherlands), and Telestra (formerly Telecom Austalia, Australia). ISE EIFFEL 3 is available on NEXTSTEP for CDN$395 for full-time students and faculty, and CDN$1375 for commercial users. ISE is currently availabale on major platforms, including SCO-ODT, Sun, IBM RS6000, 88Open, Silicaon Graphics, Hewlett-Packard, Fujitsu, Pyramid, DEC/Alpha OSF/1, MIPS, MS-Windows, PS/2 AIX, Linux, and NEXTSTEP. Jay-Kell Technologies Inc 48 Lakeshore Road, Suite 1 Pointe Claire, Quebec H9S 4H4 (514) 630-1005 (514) 630-1456 Fax ============================================================= Just thought that was pretty interesting - especially the cross-platform and Objective-C libraries parts... Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: prime@vt.edu (Frank Seaton Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX2HTML and Ghostscript Date: 24 Aug 1994 21:37:49 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <33gejd$i8s@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Has anyone installed LaTeX2HTML on a NeXT? Here's what I tried: - Retreived LaTeX2HTML which indicates that it needs Perl, latex, dvips, the pbmplus library and gs (Ghostscript). - Retreived Perl package (precompiled). - Of course as a NeXT user I have latex and dvips. - Retreived pbmplus, configured and made it. - Retreived gs. Couldn't configure because it needs the x-windows' libraries. - Retreived x-windows source. Ran out of disk space and patience... Now for the begging: Does anyone have a NeXT (m68k) executable for gs (ghostscript) that they would be willing to NeXTmail me? Alternatively, could someone give me some pointers on what to do now...
From: frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 1994 21:29:17 GMT Organization: Privat Internet site in Tuebingen/Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <33ge3d$llc@hades.tue.schwaben.de> References: <Cv1n8E.F79@cunews.carleton.ca> Keywords: APPLETALK NETATALK SOURCES As far as I know there _were_ plans to support NEXTSTEP in the netatalk package. netatalk is developed by the Research Systems Unix Group The University of Michigan netatalk@umich.edu c/o Wesley Craig +1-313-764-2278 535 W. William St. Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103-4943 Here is all the information I have about netatalk: ----------------------------------------------------start-include * What is netatalk? netatalk is a kernel-level implementation of the AppleTalk Protocol Suite for BSD-derived systems. It includes support for routing AppleTalk, serving Unix and AFS filesystems over AFP (AppleShare), serving Unix printers and accessing AppleTalk printers over PAP. A number of other minor printing and debugging utilities are also included. * What's the difference between netatalk and CAP? The primary difference between netatalk and CAP is structure, in two ways. First, netatalk is a kernel-level implementation of AppleTalk. This means that packet reception in general and routing in particular are both efficient and easy to implement. It also means that new link-layers (e.g. PPP, FDDI) can easily be added. CAP, on the other hand, relies on several less efficient tho more available methods, (e.g. DDP-over-UDP, NIT). The second structural difference is in coding style. netatalk is an integration of AppleTalk into the existing Unix networking paradigm. All of the symantics useful to the UDP/TCP programmer are useful to the netatalk-AppleTalk programmer. In contrast, CAP is written with the symantics of MacOS. All of the above differences are of primary interest to the developer and administrator. The end user will probably only notice that netatalk is somewhat faster than CAP (an artifact of both the architecture and coding style). * Are there plans for a netatalk with EtherTalk Phase II? Yup. We have released a beta of netatalk 1.3. The 1.3 release has phase 2 and dynamic configuration. This release has support for Suns running SunOS 4.1.[x] and DECs running Ultrix 4.[1-3]. There should be some number of minor releases to support phase 2 on RS/6k and 386BSD. * Will netatalk run under SunOS5.0? Eventually. Since SunOS 5 is SysV based, the kernel portions of netatalk will have to be modified to function in a STREAMS environment. However, we have made a huge investment in Sun hardware here, so as long as our primary machines run SunOS, we will try to keep netatalk running under whatever the current version is. * Will netatalk run on Solbourne machines? According to mahesh@evb.com: netatalk will not work on Solbourne (with 4.1A and 4.1B OS) and will/may work on 4.1C OS which will be released later this year. This is a problem with Solbourne's lack of support for loadable kernel modules. * Does netatalk work on NeXTs? Not yet. With much useful information from Eric Scott <eps@toaster.sfsu.edu>, we're attempting a port for NeXTs. Not to sounds too much like a programmer, but "should be easy!" * How difficult would it be to port netatalk to machine X? Invariably: very. For most machines, expect to need full source. Also, any machine whose networking is not BSD-derived is going to be even harder. Don't let this stop you from trying, certainly, but begin with your eyes open: you will need to know a lot, and you will need to have some usually hard to get resources. * What's in store for the future of netatalk: Changes in 1.4 may include ATP in the kernel, with dynamically calculated retry timers. ADSP is also likely to show up at that time. A portion of the NBP table will likely go into the kernel, so that NBP entries go away magically when sockets are closed. There are also plans to add AppleTalk over PPP to a freely redistributible PPP implementation. * How do I pronouce netatalk? Ah, good question! The unenlightened often mis-pronounce this word \'net-'a-to.k\. The correct pronouciation is \'ned-*-to.k\ (the 't' is soft, like d, and the first 'a' is a schwa). ----------------------From the README Version 1.3b2... .. netatalk is an implementation of the AppleTalk Protocol Suite for BSD-derived systems. The current release contains support for EtherTalk Phase I and II, DDP, RTMP, NBP, ZIP, AEP, ATP, PAP, ASP, and AFP. The complete stack looks like this: AFP | ASP PAP \ / ATP RTMP NBP ZIP AEP | | | | | -+---------------------------------------------------+- (kernel boundary) | Socket | +-----------------------+------------+--------------+ | | TCP | UDP | | DDP +------------+--------------+ | | IP | +-----------------------+---------------------------+ | Network-Interface | +---------------------------------------------------+ DDP is in the kernel. "atalkd" implements RTMP, NBP, ZIP, and AEP. It is the AppleTalk equivalent of Unix "routed". There is also a client-stub library for NBP. ATP and ASP are implemented as libraries. "papd" allows Macs to spool to "lpd", and "pap" allows Unix machines to print to AppleTalk connected printers. "psf" is a PostScript printer filter for "lpd", designed to use "pap". "psorder" is a PostScript reverser, called by "psf" to reverse pages printed to face-up stacking printers. "afpd" provides Macs with an interface to the Unix file system. Refer to the appropriate man pages for operational information. netatalk-1.3 beta runs on two operating systems: OS Versions Hardware Notes -- -------- -------- ----- SunOS 4.1+ Sparc kernel must have VDDRV option installed Ultrix 4.[1-3] 3100,5000 Some code is still missing. If I haven't integrated your changes, feel free to ask me about them. Things that don't work yet: o afpd - unix quotas - spurious "trash can" warnings - file locking - kerberos byte ordering - guest login symantics o atalkd - rewriting config file - rtmp rdr - zip notify o kernel - unnecessary probes .. -----------------------building information excluded- .. We have set up two mailing lists. The first is for you to get help. It is called netatalk@umich.edu. Send any questions, comments, or problems you have with netatalk to this list. We will do our best to help you. The second list carries announcements of new releases and general discussion. You can join (or resign from) this list by sending mail to netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu. Submissions (not requests to join or resign) to this list should be sent to netatalk-admins@umich.edu. ----------------------------------------------------end-include The last thing I heard from wesley.craig@umich.edu the development for NEXTSTEP was stalled. Maybe Eric could give us some more information. Remember I am not the autor nor in any way connected to them. This is all I know. Remember there are two mailing list for questions. I cannot answer further questions about this package. It does not run on my NeXT nor did I plan to port it myself. There are several ftp sites netatalk is avaiable from. I know it is on ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/unix/(somewhere), but since this site in far away in Germany, just ask your local archie for assistance. - Frank -- * Frank Siegert | frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de * * NeXT, IBM, HP | Plain ascii mail only, please * * End Of File Is A State Of Mind, Not A Character *
From: machnet@aol.com (MACHNet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 24 Aug 1994 19:18:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> References: <ROB.94Aug24150910@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca> In article <ROB.94Aug24150910@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca>, rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca (Rob Wylie) writes: >If NS comes with support for Novelle (I think it does) why unbundle >appletalk support? No kidding. I just setup a new Intel NS 3.2. I had black hardware for a couple years, but sold my NeXT right after 3.0 came out for unrelated reasons. I assumed that no one would be stupid enough to take out what I considered the only worthwhile feature of NS 3.0 - AppleShare compatibility. Did somebody totally lose their mind at NeXT? What is the real story here? Is it coming back in 3.3??? I called the Partner people who make the only current solution and they want to charge $695.00!!! And they have no student pricing of course. Isn't there any other solution?? I've resorted to running a null-modem cable between my NeXT and my Mac to transfer files with Zmodem. This is really pitiful and makes me want to return the whole darn thing. To think I actually had some hope for NS/I. Tell me I'm just imagining this. Will Price MACH Networks, Inc.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 25 Aug 1994 00:22:34 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <33go8a$d99@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> In article <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> machnet@aol.com (MACHNet) writes: > I called the Partner people who make the only current solution and they > want to charge $695.00!!! And they have no student pricing of course. > Isn't there any other solution?? I've resorted to running a null-modem > cable between my NeXT and my Mac to transfer files with Zmodem. This is > really pitiful and makes me want to return the whole darn thing. To > think I actually had some hope for NS/I. Yeah, my opinion of Partner's "academic" price was unprintable. And the price you list above does not include printing capability. I have printing to my lab's localtalk networked printer via a daemon which I run on my Mac SE. It is called lpDaemon, and is available on sumex-aim.stanford.edu. This requires either a mac with an ethernet card or a gatorbox which translates localtalk to ethertalk. I am trying to install CAP, but have so far been unsuccessful. We have CAP working with our DECs and HPs, and so I know it gives fine quality Mac filesharing. NeXT is also one of the listed operating systems for CAP. However, there were evidently header changes between NextStep 2.x and 3.x. If anybody has gotten CAP to run on NextStep 3.2, please post the solution. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next Date: 24 Aug 1994 19:31:53 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <33g779$h4m@network.ucsd.edu> References: <33e4tl$rpf@news.worldlink.com> : > <Nathan Janette> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu wrote: : > The correct entries are: : > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price : > --------- -------- ----- : > 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no : CDROM) : > 712/80i 84 79 not sold : > 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no : CDROM) : > Pentium/90 87 72 $ 5,000 (list, : w/CDROM) What about disk I/O, ethernet, installation time, graphics performance, and crashes per week? : > Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: emoy@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eva Moy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,fr.comp.sys.next Subject: clueless people desperately need help!! Date: 25 Aug 1994 01:40:42 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <33gsqq$dkd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I'm sorry to have to bother all of you, but I don't know where to turn for help... The Course Evaluation Guide at MIT publishes its book through a NeXT machine, but none of us really know anything about NeXT machines. Right now, we're at an impass because the machine won't boot up, not even to the point where it asks for a username and password. We think it might have crashed in the middle of an application, but we don't know how or when. This could be an incredibly easy thing to fix, or it could be something disastrous. We just need to figure out what is wrong so we'll know how much to panic. Eva Moy emoy@athena
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 25 Aug 1994 01:08:42 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <33gquq$rf6@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> In article <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> machnet@aol.com (MACHNet) writes: > I called the Partner people who make the only current solution and they > want to charge $695.00!!! And they have no student pricing of course. > Isn't there any other solution?? I've resorted to running a null-modem > cable between my NeXT and my Mac to transfer files with Zmodem. This is > really pitiful and makes me want to return the whole darn thing. To think > I actually had some hope for NS/I. Of course, Macintosh System 7.5 will have TCP/IP built-in. This should make things a lot easier for a lot of people. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com 12205 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 living in the Seattle area and loving it (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Zion Software & Consulting Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:45:13 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <33h0jp$jmh@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <1994Aug24.145311.5636@zion.com> In article <1994Aug24.145311.5636@zion.com> david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) writes: > ___________________________________________________________________ > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE A desperate developer, advertising software he can't give away, and in the wrong newsgroup. Sigh. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 24 Aug 1994 09:39:07 GMT Organization: schiele computertechnik, 76199 Karlsruhe Distribution: world Message-ID: <33f4fr$46e@ts1.schiele-ct.de> References: <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> In article <33d9e7$1m2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz) writes: > > 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 > > 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 > > Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) > > How 'bout numbers for a high end PA box? > > -E 712/80 84 122(!) $11000 $3000 -- Jochen Richter Phone: +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Message-ID: <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 03:27:19 GMT In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>, James Gaines <p00378@psilink.com> wrote: >Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC? >A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90. >----------------------------------------------------- > >Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error) > > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2 > --------- -------- ----- ------------- >712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 >712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 >Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) > >The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor, >2x CD-ROM. Ok, lets try this: Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020 32MB RAM 540MB IDE drive Useless 1MB video #9GXE64Pro 4MB $559 Sony CDU-561 $250 Intel Ethernet $110 Pro Audio sound card $100 Sony 17SE1 $1079 ----- TOTAL: $5118 Toss in the $995 NS/Dev kit and youre at $6113. This includes an extra 16MB of RAM and real 24-bit color, something that the proposed $10,200 712/60 seems to lack. For those of you saying to yourself "but I get an educational discount!", make sure you get a lifetime of free service or you could end up with a $4,000 boat anchor (perhaps you can reuse the $1,100 HP CD-ROM reader :-) >I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those >genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has >realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS >v3.3. Can the HP do 8-bit pseudo-color if one has to fall back to HP/UX, or does the funky 24->8 bit hardware trash your video memory representation? It seems like a high cost (ie one of a kind for a low volume box) for saving a few meg of video ram, especially when you can get a PCI 4MB 64-bit video accelerator for $559 on the street (oh yeah, no expansion in the workstation world.. there is always EISA :-> For day to day X work even PCs with 32-bit accelerators feel significantly faster than our 715/33 does... >NeXT has made a tremendous dent into the financial apps market. >Although high end graphics are great, but do we really need 24-bit or >true color (as opposed to 8 or 16 bit color). > >Therefore, for most of us developing applications, are we willing to >pay up $5000 per workstation for graphics? > >The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to >get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP >($1000), please advise. > >If I am missing something, please correct me. Thanks in advance. High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's object standard?) Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed and virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If youre an end user in the financial community its not important. The big question is: who are the customers of your application and what do they need? >p00378@psilink.com -Steve
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 25 Aug 1994 03:55:35 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <33h4nn$8tp@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <Cv1n8E.F79@cunews.carleton.ca> <33ge3d$llc@hades.tue.schwaben.de> As far as I know, UMich silently dropped the project, and I don't have spare time to pick up where they left off. (Translation: the folks who pay for me to develop NEXTSTEP software currently consider decent WWW-related stuff a lot more important than protocol stacks.) Check out comp.protocols.appletalk. Someone in Japan recently reported getting CAP to work with a BPF port. -=EPS=-
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:49:32 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com> Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for: NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP? Thanks in advance. Peace, James p00378@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <davisreCv2r5L.6EK@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services References: <Cuw5Av.K5@manki.toppoint.de> <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 04:58:33 GMT In article <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com>, Eric Thompson <thompson@netcom.com> wrote: >Manfred Roehr <manroe@manki.toppoint.de> wrote: >> >>I want to point to a great tool, Its PASTRY.. > >I concur. Pastry is very cool. > >Thanks Robert. :) > Thanks, guys, and you're welcome. And, please, "Rob" is fine. Minding P's and Q's, Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah. NeXT Mail accepted --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Message-ID: <1994Aug25.025752.15710@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 02:57:52 GMT Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version 2.3.1? -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Message-ID: <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 04:43:09 GMT seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes: >Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020 > 32MB RAM > 540MB IDE drive > Useless 1MB video >#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559 >Sony CDU-561 $250 >Intel Ethernet $110 >Pro Audio sound card $100 >Sony 17SE1 $1079 > ----- >TOTAL: $5118 Surely you're not saying that an IDE disk I/O subsystem, the Intel EtherExpress, and the Pro Audio sound card are even close to equivalent to what's in the 712's? Let's see... replacing with PCI SCSI, PCI networking and a halfway decent sound card will boost the price by around $500. Then, you've got to get that bunch of equipment to work... and work consistently. It's partially on NeXT's shoulders (enhanced PCI support). Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular NEXTSTEP dealer: HP 712/60 bare $2000 17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320 Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175 floppy drive $ 95 third party memory, 32mb $1450 third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525 ----- $5565 (I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is an adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out) The 712/80 does add around $1800 to the price for a total of ~$7350. Not exactly $7k and $11k, but not as cheap as the Dell either. I don't know what educational pricing is, but it's probably less than this. Given the lack of benchmarks and from my own observations of the different machines, I'd say that the 712/60 is slightly slower than the 90mhz Pentium and the 712/80 is slightly faster. However, there's much more to buying a machine than straight price and performance. There's reliability, stability, customer service, service options, trust, and overall satisfaction. I think the 90mhz Pentium's market is different than the HP 712's market in subtle ways. If you prefer overall balanced performance and reliability in a drop in package, then the HP is a good bet. If you prefer to heavily customize the system, need to run DOS/Windows apps or want to squeeze the most integer performance/$$, and are willing to live with the possible stability side affects, then the Pentium is right up your alley. Just wait when we have SPARC and Alpha options to choose from too. :-) >High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible >fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's >object standard?) I'm pretty sure that HP will continue to make workstations for some time to come, and I'm pretty sure that HP will do lots of things to sell their workstations. >Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed and >virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If >youre an end user in the financial community its not important. I disagree here. Workstation have historically possessed high speed graphics, sufficient memory, high speed networking, and high speed disk I/O in order to accomplish many diverse engineering and mission critical tasks. It's the Intel PC world that seems to have unbalanced systems. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Printing from NS/HP ? Message-ID: <jpanicoCv3D0s.4t4@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <33dv3p$p2t@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:50:52 GMT David Finton (finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu) wrote: : Can one print from the new HP Gecko, without buying : an expensive PostScript printer? PostScript printers no longer need be expensive. Panasonic makes something called an LED (a laser printer without a laser) sidewriter that has a postscript engine. The output is better than that of an HP laserjet II. I have been using it under NSI for 6 months, and in that time have experienced no instances where the PS engine choked on a print job. These machines are recently available at the computer supermakets (CompUSA,etc) for around $400. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP Date: 25 Aug 1994 13:01:27 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <33i4n7$fb1@news.worldlink.com> Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for: NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP? Thanks in advance. Peace, James p00378@psilink.com
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word Processing Date: 25 Aug 1994 13:44:15 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <33i77f$t34@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have been using WordPerfect on a Cube now for four years (no tears, please). I am about to purchase an pentium and install NS white. My question: What are my word processing alternatives now? Consider the following: 1. I have not shopped around for WPs for more than 2 years. 2. Most of my documents are in WordPerfect format, and it would be nice to be able to import these files. 3. I often write papers with technical content, especially equations and diagrams. 4. I own and use EquationBuilder. Any and all advice welcomed! E-mail jackson+@osu.edu Thanks. Randy Jackson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <davisreCv3FBn.Apn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services References: <thompsonCv0IL5.Byv@netcom.com> <Cv1MzL.81I@txnews.amd.com> <33fqad$3ut@news.iastate.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 13:40:35 GMT In article <33fqad$3ut@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@iastate.edu> wrote: > >...but, where is it? Is it in cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util? > Close -- it's ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/next-interface >Thanks for the help. Rob -- | Robert Davis davisre@netcom.com | "Look up, Hannah. NeXT Mail accepted --
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 10:25:22 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next: 25-Aug-94 Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA by Stephen E Halpin@world.s > >I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those > >genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has > >realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS > >v3.3. > > Can the HP do 8-bit pseudo-color if one has to fall back to HP/UX, or does > the funky 24->8 bit hardware trash your video memory representation? Think about it! Obviously the 8-bit Color Recovery works under HP/UX. In fact, it seems like HP provides better support for drawing with it under X then you'll get under NEXTSTEP. Take a look at the following WWW URL: http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html > It seems like a high cost (ie one of a kind for a low volume box) for > saving a few meg of video ram, especially when you can get a PCI 4MB 64-bit > video accelerator for $559 on the street (oh yeah, no expansion in the > workstation world.. there is always EISA :-> For day to day X work even > PCs with 32-bit accelerators feel significantly faster than our 715/33 > does... Well, the 715/33 doesn't have Color Recovery, and is from the older line of HP workstations as well. Try comparing a 712/80 to a 386 with a 512k VGA video card and you'll get the opposite result (although both comparisons are pretty meaningless). -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 10:47:24 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiL_vwC00iV0E2jNQc@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 24-Aug-94 Re: APPLETALK. Where is the.. by MACHNet@aol.com > In article <ROB.94Aug24150910@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca>, rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca (Rob > Wylie) writes: > > >If NS comes with support for Novelle (I think it does) why unbundle > >appletalk support? > > No kidding. I just setup a new Intel NS 3.2. I had black hardware for a > couple years, but sold my NeXT right after 3.0 came out for unrelated > reasons. I assumed that no one would be stupid enough to take out what I > considered the only worthwhile feature of NS 3.0 - AppleShare > compatibility. Umm, if "what you considered the only worthwhile feature of NS 3.0" was AppleShare compatibility, then why in the world did you get a NeXT instead of a Mac? > Did somebody totally lose their mind at NeXT? What is the > real story here? Is it coming back in 3.3??? Respectively: Maybe. :-) The real story is that NeXT will unbundle software (such as AppleTalk support) when third-party solutions become available so as to help the software developers struggling to survive in a tough marketplace. When NeXT doesn't do this, it can kill a product or even a company: take a look at NewsGrazer Pro whose author (Jason Adams) believes that he got shafted when NeXT released a FAT version of NG, thus killing off his market for NGPro. No. > I called the Partner people who make the only current solution and they > want to charge $695.00!!! And they have no student pricing of course. > Isn't there any other solution?? Sure: get your Mac to do TCP/IP and NFS. This is a lot more useful and a more flexible situation then trying to have a Unix box do AppleTalk. (Also, AppleTalk was never designed for use with networking beyond the trivial: in fact, there used to be a 16 node limit!) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 10:59:25 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiL=7Bu00iV002jRo4@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug25.025752.15710@bMD.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Aug-94 [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH env.. by Neil Greene@bMD.com > Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under > NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version > 2.3.1? I don't believe any shell "uses" MANPATH; although the 'man' command does so. The documentation for zsh says: manpath (MANPATH) An array (colon-separated list) whose value is not used by the shell. The manpath array can be use- ful, however, since setting it also sets MANPATH, and vice versa. What you probably want to do is define the MANPATH with 'export' so that subshells inherit this variable, as in: export MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man Hope this helps, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Date: 25 Aug 1994 16:14:26 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <33ig12$jcd@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <1994Aug25.025752.15710@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes > Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under > NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version > 2.3.1? Using zsh 2.5.03 on 3.2 for black right now. MANPATH works, always has.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: Re: Calendar application? Message-ID: <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Organization: /etc/organization References: <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 16:15:50 GMT In article <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no>, Eystein Dugstad <eystein@timotei.sfih.no> wrote: >Is there a free- or shearware calender application for Intel somewhere? I'm about to 'go intel', and I'm not about to shell out for a calendar program... So I'm gonna write one. The first revision will probably be based on output from 'remind' (look in the archives). The next revision will hopefully replace the back-end 'remind' functionality (and eliminate the need for it, but be compatible with it). My NeXT machine goes away on about the 17th of next month, so I want to have the calendar program working by then... Kurt
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: sharing a local printer Date: 25 Aug 1994 17:54:46 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <33ilt6$1lb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> We have an hp laser printer connected (via serial) to the NeXT's B serial port. Both the machine, and an ibm compatible (compaq, 486 running windows 3.1) are connected, via ethernet. Is it possible to have the compaq print to the printer connected directly to the NeXT? (040 color slab, running NeXTStep 3.0) Thanks! -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu or root@tap.colum.fnet.org : :Call The Atomic Playground BBS 614-297-7031 24/96/14.4/16.8/21.6/28.8k DS HST: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:23:43 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <33injf$m7m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: >seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes: >Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular >NEXTSTEP dealer: >HP 712/60 bare $2000 >17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320 >Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175 >floppy drive $ 95 >third party memory, 32mb $1450 >third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525 > ----- > $5565 This is almost as good as the edu price! (I think I priced the same config, but lowest 17" video, and RAM in the form of 2 x 16MB, for $5252, educational pricing). Who is this "popular NEXTSTEP dealer"? And how does one get HP to sell a bare 712/60? The price lists I've seen here all *require* one to purchase at least a minimum RAM/disk/monitor package. This takes away some of the incentive for going third party for those items, and cranks up the price. Our *edu* price for two 16 MB SIMMs is $1872, and for the 525 MB SCSI II drive, $715. David Finton
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS m68k Midi Time Piece Config app! Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:40:34 GMT Organization: CERFnet Message-ID: <33ioj2$kir@news.cerf.net> References: <1994Aug24.145311.5636@zion.com> In article <1994Aug24.145311.5636@zion.com> david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) writes: > Zion Software & Consulting SUBMITS m68k Midi Time Piece Config app! Does it work with the MTP II? -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: nicolson@strauss.berkeley.edu (Ed Nicolson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Local spell dictionary changes not saved Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:58:46 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: usa Message-ID: <33ipl6$9ge@agate.berkeley.edu> This may be a straightforward thing, but for some reason changes to my local spell dictionary are not saved when I log out. Changes are retained during a seesion (I assume they are stored in some dynamic database object) but they are not written to disk when I log out. Has anyone seen this before? -Ed Nicolson nicolson@eecs.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Scanner Driver ? Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Aug25143121@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 18:31:20 GMT Hello, Is there any Public Domain driver that permits to use a scanner on my NeXT Cube (NS3.2). I have an Abaton 300 dpi BW scanner. Thank you, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: zone@panix.com (Alex Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 25 Aug 1994 15:01:50 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com> References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> This is getting to be a religious battle. Lets stop and say that neither side is going to convince the other that their stuff is better. The HP 712/60 is slightly slower then a pentium for comparable prices. The HP 712/80 is slightly faster then a pentium for more money. The pentium can be configured in more ways to be exactly what you want (within design limits), but you do have to configure them. HP has less options, but it is intergrated well, and I know that the build is sturdy throughout their diverse lines of production. They also have great support. If I am building my own machine on a budget, I'll get a pentium. If I am getting many machines for a company, I'll get a HP, and justify it with a man-hour projection for installation, configuring, and a year of hard ware support. (If it was mine, I'd tweak it happily myself.) It's no use in arguing, no one will be convinced, lets just be happy that we all use some kind of NeXT computer and leave it at that. Alex zone@panix.com
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CryptorBundle Where? Date: 25 Aug 1994 19:09:16 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <33iq8s$m7c@gateway.wiltel.com> I've heard a little bit about CryptorBundle and I'm wanting to know WHERE to find it? mike_zemina@wiltel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg) Subject: Re: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP Message-ID: <1994Aug25.184153.9248@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: Honeywell/HBC References: <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 18:41:53 GMT In article <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com>, "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> says: > >Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for: > >NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP? Contact Dan Kramer at Talus (Houston, TX) (dan@talus.com). > > >Thanks in advance. > >Peace, > >James >p00378@psilink.com
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: corrupted ObjInspector? Date: 25 Aug 1994 20:06:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <33itk2$p03@umd5.umd.edu> I just downloaded ObjInspector from cs.orst.edu, which presumably is a Workspace inspector for .o files, but it seems to be corrupted. Can someone tell me where to find a copy of it, or some alternative inspector? Thanks, Rod Price rprice@reunion.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Message-ID: <Cv3zKv.LF9@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 20:58:06 GMT In article <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org>, Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote: >seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes: > >>Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020 >> 32MB RAM >> 540MB IDE drive >> Useless 1MB video >>#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559 >>Sony CDU-561 $250 >>Intel Ethernet $110 >>Pro Audio sound card $100 >>Sony 17SE1 $1079 >> ----- >>TOTAL: $5118 > >Surely you're not saying that an IDE disk I/O subsystem, the Intel >EtherExpress, and the Pro Audio sound card are even close to >equivalent to what's in the 712's? Let's see... replacing with >PCI SCSI, PCI networking and a halfway decent sound card will >boost the price by around $500. Then, you've got to get that >bunch of equipment to work... and work consistently. >It's partially on NeXT's shoulders (enhanced PCI support). It depends on what you mean by equivalent. Most of what I do is CPU bound, so I consider the 712/60 to be a weak alternative to a well designed P90 system. A database user would see things very differently. As for Ethernet, Ive monitored nets with 100s of X terminals, 10s of hosts and 10s of Infoservers, and the wire bandwidth is rarely saturated. Any data Ive used thats time critical would be kept on the local disk, as even IDE can waste the fastest Ethernet interfaces. I use NeXT sound mostly for voice annotations, where the PAS is quite acceptable. Finally, I should in theory be able to add two SCSI cards at some point down the line if I want, which again is not an option on the HP. >Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular >NEXTSTEP dealer: >HP 712/60 bare $2000 >17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320 >Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175 >floppy drive $ 95 >third party memory, 32mb $1450 >third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525 > ----- > $5565 > >(I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is an >adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out) > >The 712/80 does add around $1800 to the price for a total of ~$7350. >Not exactly $7k and $11k, but not as cheap as the Dell either. >I don't know what educational pricing is, but it's probably less >than this. Given the lack of benchmarks and from my own observations >of the different machines, I'd say that the 712/60 is slightly >slower than the 90mhz Pentium and the 712/80 is slightly faster. > >However, there's much more to buying a machine than straight >price and performance. There's reliability, stability, customer >service, service options, trust, and overall satisfaction. Excellent points. O >I think the 90mhz Pentium's market is different than the >HP 712's market in subtle ways. If you prefer overall balanced >performance and reliability in a drop in package, then the >HP is a good bet. If you prefer to heavily customize the system, >need to run DOS/Windows apps or want to squeeze the most integer >performance/$$, and are willing to live with the possible stability >side affects, then the Pentium is right up your alley. Just wait >when we have SPARC and Alpha options to choose from too. :-) Also excellent points. To address Chris Lloyds post, some people DO buy whole systems from HP. For the extra money you do get full HP service and support, which is critical when youre dropping 1000 systems in a site, which is a good bonus in country and an awesome bonus when you install overseas. As it should be clear from the theme of my posts, I deal with small quantity. >>High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible >>fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's >>object standard?) > >I'm pretty sure that HP will continue to make workstations for some >time to come, and I'm pretty sure that HP will do lots of things to >sell their workstations. Hm.. I think I didnt word that clearly enough. I think the 712 series isnt a great buy, and Im no fan of any of the other $3000 workstations out there either. It seems they end up in places where an X terminal will do, like on a managers desk. A 735/125 on the other hand.... My question of commitment had more to do with the conflict between NeXTstep and Talingent. As others have pointed out, even if HP backs out, NeXT can still support PA-RISC. The question is, is it worth betting the farm on, and right now Id like a little more reassurance that NS/PA will see a lot of attention. Right now NS/PA is in its infancy, and OpenStep is the latest ACE consortium. NS/FIP has already gone through an iteration, with another one to arrive soon, and it seems stable enough for the tasks Ive thrown at it. Ive got something to point to when management asks to see what it does. I think everyone here wants to see X/MOTIF replaced my OpenStep, but it wont happen for quite a while, if at all... >>Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed ad >>virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If >>youre an end user in the financial community its not important. > >I disagree here. Workstation have historically possessed high speed >graphics, sufficient memory, high speed networking, and high speed >disk I/O in order to accomplish many diverse engineering and mission >critical tasks. It's the Intel PC world that seems to have unbalanced >systems. Ironically X terminals have offered higher graphics performance than some workstations made by the same manufacturers :-> Here I was refering more to things like A/D cards and DSP cards that I can pop in a PC for tasks Im likely to do. PCs have 64-bit graphics accelerators, 1600x1200 video support, multiple SCSI bus support, FDDI, ISDN, etc.. Upgrades to these IO devices are a card and a driver away, not a whole new system. Heck, Micronet is advertising a 14MB/sec disk array for the Mac.. How will you add that to the 712s? > >-- >Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed As I ended my last message, who are the customers of your application and what do they need? For many of my tasks, PCs are sufficient and nothing more. The original poster seemed to need a one off box to run IB on, and for that the Intel box will do just fine, and save you some money to boot. If I were a heavy DB user looking for more than CPU performance, Id be looking far higher up the HP line than the 712. -Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: GUI Dialer/Emulator need for modem. Message-ID: <Cv3xuE.Gqx@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 20:20:37 GMT Does anyone know of a nice GUI based terminal emulator to make use of a modem on the NeXT? Something like Procomm+ on the PC? -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI Dialer/Emulator need for modem. Date: 25 Aug 1994 22:17:43 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: na Message-ID: <33j5a7$40k@sundog.tiac.net> References: <Cv3xuE.Gqx@serval.net.wsu.edu> In article <Cv3xuE.Gqx@serval.net.wsu.edu> jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) writes: >Does anyone know of a nice GUI based terminal emulator to make use of a >modem on the NeXT? Something like Procomm+ on the PC? The 'Cables' base product from Yrrid offers VT102 terminal emulation, dialing directory, try-a-list-of-sites-til-I-get-connected dialer, x/y/zmodem file transfer, keyboard mapper and a wide range of interface options and configurability - about a $100. It is also a superior Terminal.app replacement, and can be upgraded with our emulation modules to support ANSI-PC, VT320, IBM 3270, and other emulators at additional cost. info@yrrid.com for more information and/or demo copy or call our 800# at 1-800-443-0065 . Cables 1.2 due out in Sept./Oct. will include a small scripting language with an ObjC "hooks" API, watchme facility and additional configuration options. The 1.2 upgrade will be free for all current users. The HP-PA release of Cables is in testing and if things continue to be as solid as to date, we'll be offering a m68k/i386/hppa release in a week or two. hope this helps, -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 25 Aug 1994 21:47:20 GMT Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Message-ID: <33j3h8$53e@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> <Cv3zKv.LF9@world.std.com> seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes: >Heck, Micronet is advertising a 14MB/sec disk array for the Mac.. How >will you add that to the 712s? How will you add that to a P5/90? I don't see the point of this particular comparison :-) -- Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Message-ID: <1994Aug25.175327.18279@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 25 Aug 94 17:53:27 EDT References: <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au> Organization: Univ of Miami IR In article <33fjk3$1u9@werple.apana.org.au>, hunter@werple.apana.org.au (James Gardiner) writes: > > I know NextStep use to be able to do EtherTalk. On the black > hardware anyway!! > It does not seem to be present on my NS/I machine. > Can I get the atalkd etc needed to do AppleTalk from my Next system running > on Intel?? Please help. > > Thanks, > James I have a network with an Intel Server, Intel Clients, and several black machines. Two of the black machines have NeXT Printers attached and one of them is running 3.0. If I hook a Mac to the network via Ethernet, can I print to and see the file structure on the black 3.0 machine since 3.0 is supposed to have working AppleTalk? Of course, I would like to see the file structure on the Intel server, but printing to the 3.0 machine would help a lot in of itself. Thomas J. Herbert University of Miami p.s. - If anyone finds some affordable solution to file sharing and printing, please keep me in mind and let me know. We are about to begin a big project involving a deparment wide network of Sun/NeXTSTEP/ Mac/DOS computers. I am particularly interested in sharing between NeXTSTEP and Macs!
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calendar application? Date: 26 Aug 1994 01:17:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <33jfr2$en9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> In article <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes: > In article <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no>, > Eystein Dugstad <eystein@timotei.sfih.no> wrote: > >Is there a free- or shearware calender application for Intel somewhere? > > I'm about to 'go intel', and I'm not about to shell out for a calendar > program... > > So I'm gonna write one. The first revision will probably be based on output > from 'remind' (look in the archives). The next revision will hopefully > replace the back-end 'remind' functionality (and eliminate the need for it, > but be compatible with it). My NeXT machine goes away on about the 17th of > next month, so I want to have the calendar program working by then... Jiro Nakamura, the author of Cassandra, released the full source code to his calendar/appointment book app last year. It's on ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/sources/productivity/Cassandra15d.src.tar.gz. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 26 Aug 1994 06:15:45 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <33k1ah$1a5@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <IiL_vwC00iV0E2jNQc@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <IiL_vwC00iV0E2jNQc@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >The real story is that NeXT will unbundle software (such as AppleTalk >support) when third-party solutions become available so as to help the >software developers struggling to survive in a tough marketplace. When >NeXT doesn't do this, it can kill a product or even a company: take a >look at NewsGrazer Pro whose author (Jason Adams) believes that he got >shafted when NeXT released a FAT version of NG, thus killing off his >market for NGPro. I don't buy it. There's always a market for a supported product that adds value. A "free" NewsGrazer doesn't hurt anyone, unless they were planning on offering _less_. There's a lot to be said for setting a "baseline for excellence." And for something like a news reader, there is no "one right way"--look at all the ones that will run in a Terminal window. (I can name at least readnews, vnews, rn/rrn, trn, nn, tass, tin, gnews, gnus.) On other desktop platforms you see a similar panoply, and you don't hear vendors whining about how freeware is killing them. Quite the opposite. Jayson is a whiner. If he wants to be a monopolist, there are plenty of vertical markets ripe for fleecing. He has a lot of talent, and I have no doubt customers will be pleased with his products. And anyone else can--and should--be able to compete for his business. >Sure: get your Mac to do TCP/IP and NFS. This is a lot more useful and >a more flexible situation then trying to have a Unix box do AppleTalk. I disagree. Given the choice, I'd much rather use AFP than NFS. As for TCP/IP vs. AppleTalk, I see no reason not to support both --they each have their strengths. Just because there are some truly atrocious implementations for UNIX (e.g. CAP), doesn't mean the concept is flawed. I still believe netatalk is a step in the right direction. If so many people want AppleTalk for NEXTSTEP, why doesn't anyone want to help? It's the "Little Red Hen" syndrome: everyone wants to eat, but no one wants to bake. >(Also, AppleTalk was never designed for use with networking beyond the >trivial: in fact, there used to be a 16 node limit!) A single LocalTalk segment is limited to about 20; that's an electrical limitation, not an addressing one. Active hardware can extend this. Contemporary AppleTalk uses a 24-bit address space, and is adequate for fairly sizable networks. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Message-ID: <davisreCv4ntr.3rC@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services References: <1994Aug25.025752.15710@bMD.com> <33ig12$jcd@cat.cis.brown.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 05:41:51 GMT In article <33ig12$jcd@cat.cis.brown.edu>, Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote: >Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes > >> Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under >> NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version >> 2.3.1? > >Using zsh 2.5.03 on 3.2 for black right now. MANPATH works, always has. > zsh doesn't use MANPATH -- man does. To set it with zsh, I do something like this: export MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man Rob -- | Robert Davis davisre@netcom.com | "Look up, Hannah. NeXT Mail accepted --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "John Lacey" <johnl@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Moving fonts to NeXTstep? Message-ID: <1994Aug26.075101.10562@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: root@news.cs.indiana.edu (Operator) Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 02:50:58 -0500 I'm looking into moving from a Macintosh to NeXTstep on Intel. What do I need to do to move my fonts? I found a couple of programs on orst dated a couple of years ago. Are they current? Are they needed? Also, what should I do in the future? Do I continue to buy Mac fonts, or PC fonts, or does it matter? John L
From: meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next Subject: HPs color recovery (was Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA) Date: 26 Aug 1994 09:04:10 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <33kb6a$jv4@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> Originator: meyergru@hpradigf.informatik.tu-muenchen.de In article <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: [munch] |> |> Think about it! |> |> Obviously the 8-bit Color Recovery works under HP/UX. In fact, it seems |> like HP provides better support for drawing with it under X then you'll |> get under NEXTSTEP. Take a look at the following WWW URL: |> |> http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html |> [munch] Not quite. I have an HP 712/60 and have tried both HP/UX and NS on it. "Color recovery" consists of a signal processing chips that works at 135 MHz to analyse a 4x4 or 16x2 pixel wide rectangle of the video buffer (which consists of 8 bit values translated to 256 different 24-bit color values). If the contrast is relatively low, there is a low-pass filter (like a mean or gauss) applied, so that the resulting gradations look like more than 8 bits in terms of color resolution. If the contrast is high (like black on white text), there is no change in the output image. How they do this exactly is a company secret, so I can only guess from the visual impression and the facts that have been made public in various places. This means that to use the benefits of color recovery, you'll have to dither in software, so that the hardware can improve the appearance. The sole difference between the 24-bit and the 8 bit mode under NS on the HP is in my opinion, that in 8 bit mode, color recovery is disabled, so that the resulting image is visually more coarse. You can also see how color recovery works if you use Magnify.app to enlarge a portion of the screen. Under NeXTSTEP, the whole dithering part is the duty of the windowserver, while the hardware does the improvements in when 24-bit mode. You as the user do not have to bother with these implementation details and specify your colors as if they were 24-bit, period. The support for color recovery in HP/UX on the other hand is just that the X11 server can handle color recovery by means of the second hardware color lookup table. The server even handles setting this table for single windows (I suppose by using the vertical rectrace interrupt, because the borders flicker when you move such a window). The dithering has to be done by _you_, the user in 8-bit space. The second point is that the color table itself is buggy (as of HP/UX 9.03), which means that any gray level is yellowish (you can't even generate white), despite the fact that the colormap entry says 0xffffff for RGB values. In order to try this, however, you'll have to be able to pick up the pieces of information to make use of color recovery anyway, and I doubt that many people have done it already. If this is your impression of better support of color recovery under HP/UX, it is definitely not mine. I suggest to simply disregard the marketing blurb in the WWW page and look at the facts. Clarification: I have nothing against HP, just the contrary, but the support for color recovery (which is a leading-edge technology IMHO) under HP/UX is not at all good, and I have to speak against anybody who says otherwise. The HP 712 is a fine machine. However, even the support under NeXTSTEP could well be improved in two ways: 1. Since the region is only 4x4 pixels (or 16x2, although I doubt that these figures are correct, because one matrix is 16 pixels and the other 32), the region size for dithering in software should be chosen appropriately. Under NeXTSTEP, it seems too large, which you can see in the scroll bars. Since the dithering matrix is too large for the hardware to accomodate, there are vertical stripes in certain color shades. 2. The power supply of the Artist grahpic chips seems to be unstable. When you compile /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/Lines, start it and make the window smaller, you can see fluctuations in the brightness on the whole screen, like a pumping monitor due to power supply problems. The same effect can be seen when a text window is scrolled. Just don't look at the window itself but at another part of the screen. Since this effect does not occur with HP/UX, I suspect that there is a central loop or something which feeds the graphic chip that causes this behaviour. Although this _might_ be a hardware idiosyncrasy, it can be fixed like the X11 server of HP/UX shows (I don't have the means nor am I willing to analyse this any further, just my point of view). cheers, Uwe Uwe Meyer-Gruhl "And if I die today I'll be the happy phantom Lehrstuhl Informatik IX and I'll go chasing nuns out in the yard" (TA) Technische Universitaet Muenchen email:MeyerGru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen tel: ++49 89 48095-209
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Message-ID: <1994Aug25.222845.4167@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert) Organization: Peter Eybert References: <1994Aug25.025752.15710@bMD.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:28:45 GMT Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes > Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under > NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version > 2.3.1? > > -- > Sincerely, > > Neil Greene export MANPATH=/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/and/so/on If you put this in .zshenv every new shell knows the path. Greetings, -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale Brisinda) Subject: Clip Art Libraries Message-ID: <BRISINDA.94Aug25210628@ij.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: The University of Calgary Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 03:06:28 GMT Can anyone supply references to commercial or public domain clip-art libraries in any of the more common image formats? Thanks, Dale -- dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail Welcome) brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Tel: +1 (403) 220-7687 Fax: +1 (403) 281-5242
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: question about build disk Message-ID: <1994Aug25.234704.28408@miavx1> From: cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Date: 25 Aug 94 23:47:04 -0500 Organization: Miami University howdy. I seems to run into a bit of a problem. I am trying to build a ns disk onto a micropolis 1 gig drive. the drive is in two even partitions and has dos on the primary partition. when i try and build the drive it doesn't even show the other partition and says that all data on the gig drive will be lost. is there a way to bs it into finding the other partition and building a disk to it? if so how? BTW, this will be going into an ibm value point dx33 will ns even run on this machine? -clint
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Specifying TeXView window size and placement Date: 26 Aug 1994 16:29:05 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <33l58h$dc7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> I'd like TeXView to regularly open its main window at a predetermined size and place on my screen. Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this? Thanks, don...
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scheme for Intel? Date: 26 Aug 1994 16:20:32 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <33l4og$lq8@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Keywords: scheme A couple of years back I used a couple of implementations of the scheme programming language on black boxes. Now our student labs use Intel boxes running NEXTSTEP. I'd appreciate any advice on a good scheme implementation for this environment. Thanks in advance. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) Computer Science Professor & Chair (608) 785-6806 University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601
From: pedja@wam.umd.edu (Pedja Bogdanovich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI Dialer/Emulator need for modem. Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:23:49 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <33l8f5$dtn@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <Cv3xuE.Gqx@serval.net.wsu.edu> <33j5a7$40k@sundog.tiac.net> In article <33j5a7$40k@sundog.tiac.net> lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) writes: > In article <Cv3xuE.Gqx@serval.net.wsu.edu> jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) writes: > >Does anyone know of a nice GUI based terminal emulator to make use of a > >modem on the NeXT? Something like Procomm+ on the PC? > > The 'Cables' base product from Yrrid offers VT102 terminal emulation, > ... I hate to do this, but here is my contribution to making comp.sys.next.software into place.your.ad.here... Hopefully we will refrain from doing this in the future. TipTop is an easy-to-use telecommunication and terminal emulation program. It features ANSI, VT102, and VT220 terminal emulations all with ANSI color support, X/Y/Z-modem transfer (+ any other external transfer protocol can be used). TipTop comes with a powerful script programming language based on Tcl, Expect and Objective-C languages. The API is fully accessible from the scripting language as well as from other NEXTSTEP programs. The automatic recorder (watchme) is also included --- makes it easy to create basic scripts without programming. In addition, TipTop comes with support for GNU term. Term allows simultaneous SLIP-like connections to a remote Unix site without a need for a SLIP account. I.e., run NewsGrazer, RBrowser, trsh, NcFTP, remote X-clients, etc. Flexible keyboard mappings go without saying (bind any key to a character sequence, a script, or a message to the First Responder)... Etc. TipTop demo is available from: ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/comm/ TipTop lists at $185. However, due to popular demand, we have extended our Expo/NEXT IN LINE promotional offer through August 31, 1994, so the price is still $50 off the list, i.e., $135. Educational discount is also available. And finally, the HP/PA version will be released within a month. The next version of TipTop is due out in Nov/Dec, with functionality and ease-of-use not yet seen on any platform! Of course, the upgrade from the current version will be free. Cheers. Pedja <pedja@tiptop.com> --- ===================================================================== | Spoken: Pedja Bogdanovich Phone/Fax: (301) 656-3837 | | TipTop Software Email: pedja@tiptop.com (NeXTMail OK) | | USPS: 4800 Chevy Chase Dr. #402, Chevy Chase, Maryland 20815, USA | =====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Deleting old news Message-ID: <Cv5py8.Mu5@agedwards.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 19:25:19 GMT References: <Cuxrsp.nD@nexus1.oche.de> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Michael Pieper (michael@nexus1.oche.de) wrote: : In article <Cuq7ru.Az@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: : > 1. Even though I checked the box in order to ignore the .sig file, : > NewsGrazer puts my signature at the end of every posted news. How can I : > get rid of that ? : I've got the same problem. More concrete: If I check the box, the : .signature file is written twice under my messages, first time, when I : open the message window, the second time after sending the message. If I : don't check the box, it's written after sending the message. Look at the : example under this message ;-) : The second time only the first three lines of the .signature file are : written. No matter, if the box is checked or not. : Very interesting behaviour ;-) You're probably using CNews as your news transport. I believe that the inews in recent versions of CNews auto-appends a .signature (actully, the first four lines of a .signature) to any outgoing post. That would explain why checking the box gets you two sigs. -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: birdman@ins.infonet.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: next/internet connecting/ next Date: 26 Aug 1994 20:29:36 GMT Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, IA USA Message-ID: <33ljbg$f0l@insosf1.infonet.net> We are interested in setting up Internet access in our community. We also have access to a NeXT computer. Any info about how to get this done cheaply, quickly and well would be appreciated. Here are a few questions we have : We want to set up a terminal server and BBS for direct and dial up access on the internet. Does any one know of a BBS that runs on the NeXT? Are there any good terminal servers that are cheap and work good in a NeXT environment? Does anyone have any experience with Telebit Net Blazer or Cisco Terminal Server on the NeXT?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CryptorBundle Where? Message-ID: <1994Aug26.125917.25777@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 26 Aug 94 12:59:16 MDT References: <33iq8s$m7c@gateway.wiltel.com> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <33iq8s$m7c@gateway.wiltel.com>, Mike Zemina <mike_zemina@wiltel.com> wrote: >I've heard a little bit about CryptorBundle and I'm wanting to know >WHERE to find >it? >mike_zemina@wiltel.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- CryptorBundle-1.0.NI.b.tar.gz (fat) is available at: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in /pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps CryptorBundle includes pgp2.2 which should not be used in the U.S. The following applies to people in the U.S. only... net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/README contains detailed instructions on how to get PGP 2.6 (U.S. only). Fix the following bugs in 2.6: In randpool.c, find a tiny helper function called xorbytes: static void xorbytes(byte *dest, byte const *src, unsigned len) { while (len--) *dest++ = *src++; } Change "=" to "^=". In pgp.c find the following lines: #if 0 /* At request of Peter Simons, use stderr always. Sounds reasonable. */ if (!filter_mode && (outputfile == NULL || strcmp(outputfile, "-"))) pgpout = stdout; #endif Change the "#if 0" to "#if 1". In keymgmt.c replace these lines: if (keycounter == 1) fprintf(pgpout,LANG("1 matching key found.\n")); else fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d matching keys found.\n"),keycounter); with: fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d key(s) examined.\n"),keycounter); The clinically paranoid may wish to: Edit genprime.c" file and uncomment the line #define STRONGPRIMES Make pgp2.6 and replace the version found in CryptorBundle. - -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLl3xuuBu0383Om6dAQGMYQP+LEGvwCeZFOMnxkPfqfpDmSZWW+4J4bR9 B7ybLvBfXpNP0UR5hBELNB6IaAmgLBBar9gy1DlAdRPPf4XM5VeYHaFBn5o5ta3l NJmGbTGU2K9dlf+NXKWoakOWE+OMgDaoZTZxQfz6alV7xWweDZ2ywFav16tId4Rk +0UFBsQX81g= =o0AC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: [Help]: /usr/ucb/vacation not working as advertised :-( Message-ID: <Cv5vHs.4AE@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 21:25:01 GMT Here's what is in ~/.forward \username@machine.sub.domain,"|/usr/ucb/vacation user" and the foward works (mail is getting sent to username@machine.sub.domain, however, the contents of ~/.vacation.msg is NOT getting sent to the email sender, and the email sender is receiving a bounce back with "unknown mailer error 1: sh: /usr/ucb/vacation: not found 554 "|/usr/ucb/vacation username"... unknow mailer error 1. vacation -I has been run, so ~/.vacaction.pag and ~/.vacation.dir exist. And, to make matters worse, the .forward format appears to use the protocol identical to the "vacation" man page. Help! What to do, sportsfans???? <charles.herrick@amd.com> -- personal opinions
From: ambi@kaizen.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite FTP'able demo? Date: 26 Aug 1994 21:45:05 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <33lnp2$3eh@news.bu.edu> Anyone know of if there is a demo version of OpenWrite available anywhere? Or for that matter, any demo versions of word processors for NeXTSTEP FIP? Thanks, -- Mike Amirault Kaizen Solutions, Inc. ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Aug26011642@steffi.demon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Aug26011642@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: 26 Aug 1994 07:23:47 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug26082347@steffi.demon.co.uk> -- "Mariella Mariella Mariella" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Message-ID: <5VanHNhonrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> Organization: Orga-what? References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Date: 26 Aug 1994 09:28:00 +0100 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Distribution: world > (I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is > an adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out) The Toshibas did work. 3301, 3401 and 4101. Kristian -- Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689 "Der Schritt zur Schaffung einer einheitlichen deutschsprachigen Themen- struktur waere somit nichts weiter, als die derzeitigen Gegebenheiten schlicht zur Kenntnis zu nehmen." -- lp@shlink.shn.com (Lutz Petersen) ## CrossPoint v3.0 R ##
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Message-ID: <1994Aug27.003012.23454@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <IiL=7Bu00iV002jRo4@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 00:30:12 GMT In article <IiL=7Bu00iV002jRo4@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 25-Aug-94 [HELP]: zsh and > MANPATH env.. by Neil Greene@bMD.com > > Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version > > 2.3.1? > > I don't believe any shell "uses" MANPATH; although the 'man' command > does so. The documentation for zsh says: 'man' checks the shell enivronment variable MANPATH. Zsh, being the shell that it is, uses the shell environment variable MANPATH as well, just like csh or ksh. Except, the version I have refuses to. There is a followup post from Joshua W. Burton, in which he says his zsh works properly. So, maybe there is a problem in the version we have compiled here locally. Or, maybe Joshua did what we did here locally when testing. Some of the manpages which were installed in /usr/local/man were also installed in /usr/man. Fooling our tests. :-( -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: andy@godel (Andrew Burday) Subject: dynamic ip assignment in slip? Message-ID: <1994Aug27.023531.22052@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Summary: Does either TransSys slip or PNI support dynamic IP number assignment? Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 02:35:31 GMT Hello All. I've been trying to get a slip client configured on a black NeXT. Unfortunately, I have to use a dynamically assigned IP number. So far as I can tell, neither the older TransSys slip nor the new PNI will allow me to do this. They both seem to require that the client's IP address be specified in a config file before trying to connect. Since I don't have my own pre-assigned number, I can't do that. So it looks like I'll have to try to talk my University's computing centre into giving me my own IP number. Is this correct? If it actually is possible to configure either TransSys slip or PNI to get the client's IP address from the server, I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me what I need to read to find out how to do that. I have a feeling this might be a FAQ -- my apologies if it is. I have looked throught the documentation for both software packages, and I've read the FAQs. I was a little surprised not to find an answer to this question, but I didn't. Anyhow, if anyone could either confirm that these packages do require a pre-assigned IP number for clients, or tell me what to read to find out how to make them use a dynamically assigned number, I'd appreciate it. I'd prefer e-mail responses. Best, Andrew Burday andy@philo.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Message-ID: <1994Aug24.223532.2075@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 22:35:32 GMT In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> writes: > Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC? > A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error) > > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2 > --------- -------- ----- ------------- > 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000 > 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000 > Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net) > > The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor, > 2x CD-ROM. > > Why are we all so anxious to gravitate to the HP platform when there > are dealers who will NeXTstep certify the Intel based platforms? > Does the HP platform offer something other than equivalent > performance. > > I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those > genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has > realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS > v3.3. > > NeXT has made a tremendous dent into the financial apps market. > Although high end graphics are great, but do we really need 24-bit or > true color (as opposed to 8 or 16 bit color). > > Therefore, for most of us developing applications, are we willing to > pay up $5000 per workstation for graphics? > > The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to > get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP > ($1000), please advise. > > If I am missing something, please correct me. Thanks in advance. The only comment that I would make is that it is nice to narrow the number of people you would have to go to for support from the vendor for each part of your system, to NeXT and HP. It makes life much simpler, and for many organizations that is attractive. You certainly pay for that up front, but there are corresponding costs on the backend for Intel hardware. -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: LaTeX2HTML and Ghostscript Message-ID: <Cv5n6w.Anz@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <33gejd$i8s@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 18:25:43 GMT In article <33gejd$i8s@solaris.cc.vt.edu> prime@vt.edu (Frank Seaton Taylor) writes: > > Has anyone installed LaTeX2HTML on a NeXT? > > Here's what I tried: > > - Retreived LaTeX2HTML which indicates that it needs Perl, latex, > dvips, the pbmplus library and gs (Ghostscript). > > - Retreived Perl package (precompiled). > > - Of course as a NeXT user I have latex and dvips. > > - Retreived pbmplus, configured and made it. > > - Retreived gs. Couldn't configure because it needs the x-windows' > libraries. > > - Retreived x-windows source. Ran out of disk space and patience... > > Now for the begging: > > Does anyone have a NeXT (m68k) executable for gs (ghostscript) that > they would be willing to NeXTmail me? > > Alternatively, could someone give me some pointers on what to do > now... Well, I run it on two NeXT systems. To get gs to compile, you have to edit the configuration so that it doesn't support the X-window stuff as a display device. Also, if you use a late enough version of dvips, the latex2html script that checks you dvips version will tell you it's not current enough when it is. You just have toedit the script to get around this. -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Message-ID: <1994Aug27.161141.12541@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1994Aug25.222845.4167@charon.muc.de> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:11:41 GMT In article <1994Aug25.222845.4167@charon.muc.de> pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) writes: > Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes > > Has anyone gotten zsh to use the MANPATH environment variable under > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 with zsh version 2.2.0? What about compiling zsh version > > 2.3.1? > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > > > Neil Greene > > export MANPATH=/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/and/so/on > If you put this in .zshenv every new shell knows the path. I think the term for the correct response above should have been RTFM. Well, maybe not since my zsh man pages were in /usr/local/man. :-) Anyway, it works by setting the MAPATH environment variable in .zshenv. Thanks! -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 17:54:16 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug27.175416.21569@cyantic.com> References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com> In article <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com> zone@panix.com (Alex Lee) writes: >This is getting to be a religious battle. Lets stop and say that neither side >is going to convince the other that their stuff is better. Isn't comp.sys.next supposed to be defunct, and these messages posted to one of the subgroups? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 02:38:52 GMT Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: : > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: : > : > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go : > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue : > a product. : I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue : products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about : bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new : business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford : the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. Right. "Lotus announces that despite a commanding leadership in the spreadsheet business, they are stoppin the development and delivery of 1-2-3 as of today. They have no spreadsheets to replace it." -- Gary Lang Email:garylang@netcom.COM
From: ferng@irisserv (Ferng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: My NeXT won't power up, please help Date: 28 Aug 1994 03:23:21 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <33ovv9$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> My NeXTstation died. I don't know what the problem is, and I don't know what to do with it. I am anxious to get it fixed, and need your kind help or suggestion. The nightmare is this: I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot. Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time. There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on again. It just died. What can I do? Thanks in advance for any response. ---ferng ferng@helios.math.nctu.edu.tw
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH environment variable Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 01:06:37 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AiM1hRu00iV6067LNG@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug27.003012.23454@bMD.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Aug-94 Re: [HELP]: zsh and MANPATH.. by Neil Greene@bMD.com > > I don't believe any shell "uses" MANPATH; although the 'man' command > > does so. The documentation for zsh says: > > 'man' checks the shell enivronment variable MANPATH. Zsh, being the shell > that it is, uses the shell environment variable MANPATH as well, just like > csh or ksh. Except, the version I have refuses to. None of the above shells do anything with MANPATH. What does your version of zsh do? > There is a followup post from Joshua W. Burton, in which he says his zsh > works properly. So, maybe there is a problem in the version we have > compiled here locally. Or, maybe Joshua did what we did here locally when > testing. Some of the manpages which were installed in /usr/local/man were > also installed in /usr/man. Fooling our tests. :-( Zsh works perfectly here at CMU (and on my machine). -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Distinguishing a DOS disk from a NeXT disk? Message-ID: <Cv92tG.IIB@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 14:56:04 GMT Edit.app cannot be used to edit files on a DOS-formatted disk (diskette or Novell server) because it *always* attempts to make a backup by appending a ~ to the filename (test.doc -> test.doc~), giving a filename too long error. [Setting 'delete backups' in Preferences doesn't prevent this. The backup is always created first.] To get around this, I've written a shell script to copy the file to /tmp, edit the copy, and if the copy differs from the original, copy it back. I'd like to have the script test whether the original is actaully on a NeXT disk, and avoid the copy if so. Can anyone suggest how to do this? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mux Driver--I'm stupid, please help Date: 28 Aug 1994 17:52:31 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <33qisv$80o@news.tamu.edu> I'm trying to install the Mux driver for use with NSI 3.2 and a serial mouse. Though I'm sure the instructions in the package are adequate for the less-ignorant, they seem to be way beyond me. Can someone please send me the appropriate Default.table and Instance0.table files for this install, along with specific step-by-step instructions? My husband will thank you, because he will avoid being killed for screwing up my setups to begin with. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SB16 Driver Date: 28 Aug 1994 19:25:25 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <33qob5$kpc@gamera.umd.edu> I am looking for a driver for the Sound Blaster 16Bit card with out MIDI, is there one and if so where can I get it? Thanks in advance! Argon -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica for NeXT Date: 28 Aug 1994 19:23:40 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <33qo7s$82v@galaxy.ucr.edu> I need to locate a copy of Mathematica (any version, but pre- ferably newer than 2.0) for the NeXT box. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "I want to know how God created the world...I want to know His / / thoughts. All the rest are details." -Albert Einstein / / / / All flames to dev/null / / / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: Re: Calendar application? Message-ID: <1994Aug28.203515.20890@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Organization: /etc/organization References: <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> <33jfr2$en9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 20:35:15 GMT In article <33jfr2$en9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>, <Hal.Varian@umich.edu> wrote: >In article <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> >kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes: > >> In article <33do25$12j@due.uninett.no>, >> Eystein Dugstad <eystein@timotei.sfih.no> wrote: >> >Is there a free- or shearware calender application for Intel somewhere? >> >> I'm about to 'go intel', and I'm not about to shell out for a calendar >> program... >> >> So I'm gonna write one. > >Jiro Nakamura, the author of Cassandra, released the full source code to his >calendar/appointment book app last year. It's on >ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/sources/productivity/Cassandra15d.src.tar.gz. Ya know, I looked at this one, and I'm still gonna write one. Kurt
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Distinguishing a DOS disk from a NeXT disk? Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:41 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <33r569$9kn@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <Cv92tG.IIB@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> You should be able to find this out with statfs()--DOS disks should return a filesystem type of MOUNT_PC. I say _should_, because statfs() returns MOUNT_UFS instead. Grr!!! I verified the bug for both NS 2.1 and 3.2 for m68k; I haven't tested anything later. NFS and Macintosh work OK. swapfs returns something really weird. I haven't tried CD-ROMs or audio discs. Michael: try something like access("msdos.sucks", 0)--if it fails with ENAMETOOLONG, you're probably dealing with a DOS filesystem. -=EPS=- ------- statfs.c /* cc -o statfs -s -object -O -bsd statfs.c */ #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 #include <ansi/stdio.h> #include <bsd/sys/types.h> #include <bsd/sys/file.h> #define KERNEL 1 #include <bsd/sys/vfs.h> #undef KERNEL #include <bsd/sys/mount.h> #include <mach-o/nlist.h> #else #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/file.h> #define KERNEL 1 #include <sys/vfs.h> #undef KERNEL #include <sys/mount.h> #include <nlist.h> #endif struct nlist nl[]={ { { "_vfssw" } }, { { "_vfsNVFS" } }, { { (char *)NULL } } }; main(argc, argv) int argc; char *argv[]; { int k; struct statfs fs; long w; char buf[32]; if (argc!=2) { (void)fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s path\n", *argv); exit(1); } if (statfs(argv[1], &fs)<0) { perror("statfs"); exit(1); } (void)printf(".f_type=%ld\n", fs.f_type); (void)printf(".f_bsize=%ld\n", fs.f_bsize); (void)printf(".f_blocks=%ld\n", fs.f_blocks); (void)printf(".f_bfree=%ld\n", fs.f_bfree); (void)printf(".f_bavail=%ld\n", fs.f_bavail); (void)printf(".f_files=%ld\n", fs.f_files); (void)printf(".f_ffree=%ld\n", fs.f_ffree); (void)printf(".f_fsid.val[0]=%ld\n", fs.f_fsid.val[0]); (void)printf(".f_fsid.val[1]=%ld", fs.f_fsid.val[1]); switch (fs.f_fsid.val[1]) { case MOUNT_UFS: (void)fputs(" (UFS)\n", stdout); break; case MOUNT_NFS: (void)fputs(" (NFS)\n", stdout); break; case MOUNT_PC: (void)fputs(" (PC)\n", stdout); break; case MOUNT_LO: (void)fputs(" (LO)\n", stdout); break; case MOUNT_SPECFS: (void)fputs(" (SPECFS)\n", stdout); break; case MOUNT_CFS: (void)fputs(" (CFS)\n", stdout); break; default: /* mounted with M_NEWTYPE option */ /* m68k only */ if (nlist("/sdmach", &nl)>=0) { w=nl[0].n_value+fs.f_fsid.val[1]*sizeof (struct vfssw); if (w<nl[1].n_value&& (k=open("/dev/kmem", O_RDONLY))>=0) { (void)lseek(k, w, L_SET); if (read(k, (char *)&w, 4)==4) { (void)lseek(k, w, L_SET); bzero(buf, sizeof buf); (void)read(k, buf, sizeof buf); (void)printf(" (%.32s)", buf); } (void)close(k); } } break; } (void)printf("\n.f_spare[0]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[0]); (void)printf(".f_spare[1]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[1]); (void)printf(".f_spare[2]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[2]); (void)printf(".f_spare[3]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[3]); (void)printf(".f_spare[4]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[4]); (void)printf(".f_spare[5]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[5]); (void)printf(".f_spare[6]=%ld\n", fs.f_spare[6]); exit(0); }
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mux Driver--I'm stupid, please help Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:09:56 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <33r5g4$r2g@news.tamu.edu> References: <33qisv$80o@news.tamu.edu> I've figured it out, no need to hold my hand, thanks :) Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Making xmitBin Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:11:36 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Message-ID: <33rck8$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <Cuxw57.Aw9@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Michael Friendly spewed: : I'm trying to compile xmitBin_1.9 (for sending binaries as split uuencoded : segments) on NS 3.0. The SUPPORT file says it has been built successfully : for NS 3.1, but cc complains: : hotspur:xmitBin-1_9 [56] % make : cc -c -DSysVMail -DDIR_H -DTMPDIR='"/tmp"' -DxmitBinRev='"1.9"' xbmain.c : xbcomm.h:17: header file 'unistd.h' not found : *** Exit 1 : Stop. : Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca I got a copy, and looked at the xbcomm.h header file. it says: #ifdef __GNUC__ #include <unistd.h> #endif This means that if you are using GNU's gcc, then it should include unistd.h. Try removing these three lines, and recompile. You should have no problem. Chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help in allowing a user login be a program, not /bin/csh Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:18:57 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <33rd21$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33dh2n$fnl@tivoli.tivoli.com> <33dnml$53a@acmex.gatech.edu> Dave Rinker spewed: : I think you need to add '/info/prog' to the file '/etc/shells' in order to : have login accept the new shell. : Dave Rinker : Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome Dave, I caught hell for this in one of the other *.unix.* newsgroups. I thought the same thing. If you are su, it doesn't matter, the shell can be anything. Chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WAV-TO-SND Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:24:50 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Message-ID: <33rdd2$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33ftme$pe0@serveur.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr> ROUANET - Old VM spewed: : Were can I find a .wav to .snd converter? : Thank you for your help. : J.Francois Rouanet I don't know if SOX compiles for NeXT, but you can try it. It converts something like eight different sound types to and fro. chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Moving fonts to NeXTstep? Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:30:47 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Message-ID: <33rdo7$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1994Aug26.075101.10562@news.cs.indiana.edu> John Lacey spewed: : I'm looking into moving from a Macintosh to NeXTstep on Intel. What : do I need to do to move my fonts? I found a couple of programs on : orst dated a couple of years ago. Are they current? Are they : needed? : Also, what should I do in the future? Do I continue to buy Mac : fonts, or PC fonts, or does it matter? : John L I don't pretend to know a lot about NS, but I think that it uses PS fonts. I have seen unix converters to convert mac fonts before. Creative use of archie should find something. I'm waiting for OPeNSTEP, and then I'm going jump on the NeXT bandwagon. Chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica for NeXT Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:32:52 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Message-ID: <33rds4$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33qo7s$82v@galaxy.ucr.edu> Buckaroo Bonzai spewed: : I need to locate a copy of Mathematica (any version, but pre- : ferably newer than 2.0) for the NeXT box. Can anyone help? : Thanks in advance... Pick up a copy of NeXT World. I'm sure there's an ad in there somewhere. If you still can't find anything, mail me. I think I can dig it up. chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: My NeXT won't power up, please help Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:36:46 GMT Organization: CTx Communications, Ltd. Message-ID: <33re3e$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33ovv9$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Ferng spewed: : My NeXTstation died. I don't know what the problem is, : and I don't know what to do with it. I am anxious to : get it fixed, and need your kind help or suggestion. : The nightmare is this: : I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot. : Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then : the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time. : There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on : again. It just died. : ferng@helios.math.nctu.edu.tw I'm no expert, but it's probably a loose wire or power supply failure. You could check the pwr supply with a multimeter. Best option: take it to a computer shop (preferably reputable). chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: OpenWrite FTP'able demo? Message-ID: <Cv9xp7.Lvo@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <33lnp2$3eh@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 02:03:06 GMT ambi@kaizen.com wrote: : Anyone know of if there is a demo version of OpenWrite available : anywhere? Or for that matter, any demo versions of word processors : for NeXTSTEP FIP? OpenWrite is only in beta, now. Demo of WriteUp from AFS is on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/demos --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Stay Alive. Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | Sixty-Five Grand. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Feed the hole." csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | -Jack Grimaldi, Romeo is Bleeding
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lwagers@zuni.ucs.indiana.edu (Jaymz@zuni) Subject: doom Message-ID: <Cv9xvn.LAC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 02:06:59 GMT where can i get a copy of doom for nextstep??????
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Transys PNI 1.11 and NewsGrazer possible problem? Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:08:36 GMT Organization: RGNET Distribution: world Message-ID: <33rjfk$lc7@pop0.rain.rg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if this a problem with the new version of PNI 1.11 or what, but ever since I upgraded to 1.11 my machine locks up quite frequently when running NewsGrazer.. I connect to a remote NNTP server.. Anyone else notice this problem? -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lwagers@zuni.ucs.indiana.edu (Jaymz@zuni) Subject: Resume writing programs Message-ID: <Cv9ztu.2AD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 02:49:05 GMT does anyone know where i can find a resume writing program for the NeXT??? all help is appreciated, thanks
From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 28 Aug 1994 20:40:58 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <33rlca$73s@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> References: <Cv1n8E.F79@cunews.carleton.ca> <33ge3d$llc@hades.tue.schwaben.de> Keywords: APPLETALK NETATALK SOURCES >As far as I know there _were_ plans to support NEXTSTEP in the netatalk >package. netatalk is developed by the Last I talked to the guy who was supposed to do this, he'd completely dropped it. Too bad - I like netatalk. Anyway, you casn try running CAP. -- Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu SysAdmins have big disks. 310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax)
From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 28 Aug 1994 20:53:21 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <33rm3h$766@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> References: <IiL_vwC00iV0E2jNQc@andrew.cmu.edu> >The real story is that NeXT will unbundle software (such as AppleTalk >support) when third-party solutions become available so as to help the >software developers struggling to survive in a tough marketplace. When >NeXT doesn't do this, it can kill a product or even a company: take a >look at NewsGrazer Pro whose author (Jason Adams) believes that he got >shafted when NeXT released a FAT version of NG, thus killing off his >market for NGPro. >Sure: get your Mac to do TCP/IP and NFS. This is a lot more useful and >a more flexible situation then trying to have a Unix box do AppleTalk. >(Also, AppleTalk was never designed for use with networking beyond the >trivial: in fact, there used to be a 16 node limit!) Well gee, this is all cool and groovy, but frankly I always found Next newsgrazer to be too slow and cumbersome to go through a lot of news with, so I was even running nn on my Turbo, if you can believe it. But Appleetalk? We're actually talking about Appleshare or ethershare or whatever - the stuff that runs over ethernet, and when it works right, the people in the lab can print to the networked Apple printer. And grab Mac files from the Mac, and do what you want with them. Now Qualcomm keeps releasing the original Eudora for free, but if you want the enhanced version, you have to pay. Other companies have done similar stuff. What pray tell drives a company like Next to unbundle software that would impress people with interoperability just to keep some software company alive? Hey, let them go develop a new product. Perhaps 3.2 has greater stability, but the major difference I've found is that we can't use the LaserWriter anymore. Smooth move. -- Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu SysAdmins have big disks. 310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 29 Aug 1994 00:40:41 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <33ros9$9fi@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm) Subject: Re: Calendar application? Message-ID: <gslCvAAHy.Frp@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1994Aug25.161550.26484@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> <33jfr2$en9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 06:39:34 GMT Hal.Varian@umich.edu wrote: : Jiro Nakamura, the author of Cassandra, released the full source code to his : calendar/appointment book app last year. It's on : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/sources/productivity/Cassandra15d.src.tar.gz. Too bad it doesn't build. I've spent hours trying to hack together the missing pieces just to get a build without any luck. If someone has managed to piece together a working source kit please submit it to the archieves. -- Greg Lindholm Glendale CA gsl@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Dr Donald J Baird) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTTIME : Date: 29 Aug 1994 08:09:52 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <33s54g$5cj@lorne.stir.ac.uk> I gather this product was made available to people attending the NeXT Expo this year. Can anyone tell me: (a) what is it? (b) is it available commercially / via FTP? (I understand it's some sort of movie/video viewing app). Sorry if this seems a dumb query, but we don't always get to hear all the news out here in net hinterland. -- Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926 Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133 Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk Stirling University Scotland FK9 4LA * * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXTMail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Smalltalk for NeXT Date: 29 Aug 1994 09:00:04 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <33s82k$n9l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello is there a Smalltalk (80 or V) package available for the NeXT? How good is the GNU package? Thanx Stephan Fruehauf Berlin -- Stephan Fruhauf gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de what is X400? s=gonzo ou=opal p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Searching for MIDI-apps, sequenzer and editor - Message-ID: <CvAH9I.8u@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:05:42 GMT Hello, is there any good sound-editor and sequenzer for MIDI? Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WAV-TO-SND Date: 29 Aug 1994 13:25:59 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <33snl7$jg@news.duke.edu> References: <33rdd2$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Charlie Brown writes > ROUANET - Old VM spewed: > : Were can I find a .wav to .snd converter? > : Thank you for your help. > : J.Francois Rouanet > > I don't know if SOX compiles for NeXT, but you can try it. It converts > something like eight different sound types to and fro. GISO.app is a NeXTSTEP front-end to SOX. It's freeware and available for anonymous ftp from cs.orst.edu:pub/next/sources/sound. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica for NeXT Date: 29 Aug 1994 14:15:17 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <33sqhl$3v5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <33rds4$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <33rds4$hdc@zip.eecs.umich.edu> krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) writes: > Buckaroo Bonzai spewed: > : I need to locate a copy of Mathematica (any version, but pre- > : ferably newer than 2.0) for the NeXT box. Can anyone help? > > : Thanks in advance... > > Pick up a copy of NeXT World. I'm sure there's an ad in there somewhere. > If you still can't find anything, mail me. I think I can dig it up. > > chuck > -- Send email to info@wri.com; they'll be happy to sell you a copy. Or call 217-398-0747. -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: basso@patpserv.epfl.ch (Andrea Basso) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] SEGATE ST-3600N NeXT compatibility Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:13:59 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Sender: basso@patpserv (Andrea Basso) Distribution: world Message-ID: <33stvn$f7r@info.epfl.ch> Hello, is the Segate ST-3600N HD (525MB) compatible with NeXTstations? Someone had experiences with this drive? Please reply to basso@ltssun4.epfl.ch Thanks -Andrea
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Moving fonts to NeXTstep? Message-ID: <1994Aug29.160514.402@ittpub> From: derek@ittpub.nl Date: 29 Aug 94 16:05:13 WET References: <1994Aug26.075101.10562@news.cs.indiana.edu> In article <1994Aug26.075101.10562@news.cs.indiana.edu> writes: > I'm looking into moving from a Macintosh to NeXTstep on Intel. What > do I need to do to move my fonts? I found a couple of programs on > orst dated a couple of years ago. Are they current? Are they > needed? > > Also, what should I do in the future? Do I continue to buy Mac > fonts, or PC fonts, or does it matter? > > John L We used MetamophosisPro from Altsys (about $100), you coould also use Fontographer also from Altsys (about $450). You should also be aware of any licensing requirements. We have a full site-license for the Adobe Type Library, so moving fonts to the NeXT is no problem. The latest Adobe Font licences only allow a font to be used on 5 screens. -- Derek Denyer - derek@ittpub.nl | | Nobody can read my signature anyway.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) Subject: Where is Sybase bundled server? Message-ID: <29AUG199408564909@acad3.alaska.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAF Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:56:00 GMT I am looking for information on the single-user Sybase server that was supposedly bundled with NeXTStep 2.0. I have not had a need for a database engine until recently and I never even unpacked the Sybase package on 2.0. Looking at my 3.0 distribution, it appears that the server is not present. I looked at my 2.0 backup optical, and I don't see a server in the package bill of materials. I appologize for asking, because I know this has come up before, but I would really appreciate it if anyone out there could answer these questions: 1. Was a Sybase server ever bundled with the academic NeXTStep and if so, what NeXTStep version[s], and how do you get it running? 2. Will this server run under 3.x? Thanks, Lon Kelly fflak@aurora.alaska.edu
From: rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CryptorBundle Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:08:31 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <33tf7v$m9g@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Ignoring the remark in the doc stating that this runs only on NS3.2 or greater, I tried to implement this on my 3.0 system. Attempting to test this, I was getting cryptor bad magic number (not a Mach-O file) in my console. Is the source for cryptor available (for compiling on a 3.0 system), or docs describing how to install encryption support in Mail.app (actually I'd like to just use pgp conventional encryption), or is there some 3.2 support that this relys on. Any replys appreciated. Thanks... -- Tim Rhodes ................................... Tim.Rhodes@vt.edu Sr Systems Engineer .......................... rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu Virginia Tech ................................ KE4OBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Is it possible to netboot a PC into NeXTStep/Intel? Message-ID: <CvBELA.BsF@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:05:34 GMT I have a PC that could run NeXTStep, and it has the Intel EtherExpress 16C card installed. Is it possible for it to netboot NeXTStep? And where would I get the EPROM that goes onto the Ethernet card? I don't want to have to buy a large drive for the PC, when I have plenty of space already available to build a bootable Intel partition on my central server. Is this possible? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WHY can't WP 5.1 & WP 6.0 for DOS read next TIFF files? Date: 29 Aug 1994 23:01:51 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <33tpcv$pdf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> I have a project that I need to do on WordPerfect 5.1 or 6.0 for DOS. Both programs refuse to read next TIFF files and complain that the next TIFF files are not in the correct format. What gives? How can I convert from the (perfectly good) NeXT TIFF format into (whatever rinky-dink) TIFF format WP wants? help :-< cjs
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33tp6q$p9c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Control: cancel <33tp6q$p9c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: 29 Aug 1994 23:17:14 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <33tq9q$qs5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Article cancelled from nr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Time bombed demo Message-ID: <1994Aug29.215350.3544@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:53:50 GMT I just downloaded TypingCzar.FAT.compressed (size=319689) and when I tried to launch it has expired. This is a real waste. 8-( I suggest to add the date of expiration to the name of the file like: TypingCzar.FAT.940829.exp.compressed so all the expired demo could be automatically removed from the archive. Any comments? Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: PASTRY - a real great tool Message-ID: <1994Aug29.215914.3607@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <davisreCv3FBn.Apn@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:59:14 GMT My new HP is missing PASTRY :-( Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I know this is lame, but... Date: 29 Aug 1994 23:55:06 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> I have been trying to finger NeXT.COM(specifically Joe_Hollowood@ NeXT.COM). and have not been able to reach it [I get a message that says host unreachable]. Is NeXT.COM defunct too? After my NeXTWorld revelation, this is getting scary. I feel like I've latched onto a sinking ship. Any help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated... Thanks in advance... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "I want to know how God created the world...I want to know His / / thoughts. All the rest are details." -Albert Einstein / / / / All flames to dev/null / / / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Re: I know this is lame, but... Message-ID: <CvBnF1.9JF@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis References: <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 00:16:13 GMT In article <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) writes: > > I have been trying to finger NeXT.COM(specifically Joe_Hollowood@ > NeXT.COM). and have not been able to reach it [I get a message that says > host unreachable]. Is NeXT.COM defunct too? After my NeXTWorld revelation, > this is getting scary. I feel like I've latched onto a sinking ship. Any > help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated... Couple of quick points: o next.com exists, but apparently the finger server is not being run o the host names given for e-mail addresses often don't exist as a real host - I have run into this a number of times. It appears sendmail and DNS play a few tricks to do this, but I am not sure. However, this is not the case this time, next.com really does exist. o NeXT is probably in the best position it has been in for years, and I am usually a pessimist, agreeing regularly with Mark Crispin. Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS for Intel Date: 30 Aug 1994 01:08:51 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <33u0r3$p8b@galaxy.ucr.edu> Approximately how much does NeXTStep for Intel go for, and how do I acquire it? Thanks in advance...
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:31:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <33u5l4$chs@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <33rlca$73s@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> In article <33rlca$73s@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes: > Too bad - I like netatalk. Anyway, you casn > try running CAP. Has anybody gotten CAP working under NextStep? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Message-ID: <CvAxJA.u4@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <33rm3h$766@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 14:57:10 GMT In article <33rm3h$766@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes: > >The real story is that NeXT will unbundle software (such as AppleTalk > >support) when third-party solutions become available so as to help the > >software developers struggling to survive in a tough marketplace. When > >NeXT doesn't do this, it can kill a product or even a company: take a > >look at NewsGrazer Pro whose author (Jason Adams) believes that he got > >shafted when NeXT released a FAT version of NG, thus killing off his > >market for NGPro. > > >Sure: get your Mac to do TCP/IP and NFS. This is a lot more useful and > >a more flexible situation then trying to have a Unix box do AppleTalk. > >(Also, AppleTalk was never designed for use with networking beyond the > >trivial: in fact, there used to be a 16 node limit!) > > Well gee, this is all cool and groovy, but frankly I > always found Next newsgrazer to be too slow and cumbersome > to go through a lot of news with, so I was even running > nn on my Turbo, if you can believe it. But Appleetalk? > We're actually talking about Appleshare or ethershare or > whatever - the stuff that runs over ethernet, and when > it works right, the people in the lab can print to > the networked Apple printer. And grab Mac files from > the Mac, and do what you want with them. > > Now Qualcomm keeps releasing the original Eudora for > free, but if you want the enhanced version, you have > to pay. Other companies have done similar stuff. > What pray tell drives a company like Next to unbundle > software that would impress people with interoperability > just to keep some software company alive? Hey, let > them go develop a new product. > > Perhaps 3.2 has greater stability, but the major difference > I've found is that we can't use the LaserWriter anymore. > > Smooth move. > -- > Bill Eldridge > bill@lifesci.ucla.edu SysAdmins have big disks. > 310-206-3960 > 310-206-3987 (fax) There were people saying that if you installed the appletalk stuff from 3.0 *and* the print manager from 3.0, that it would work. It didn't for me, but apparently it did for some. -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need database report writer Date: 30 Aug 1994 05:16:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <33ufc8$93v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I would appreciate any information anyone might have about available NEXTSTEP report writers. I know about Impress, but seem to recall hearing about at least one other report writer. Is anything else available? --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I know this is lame, but... Date: 30 Aug 1994 07:46:25 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <33uo4h$2nt@rosie.next.com> References: <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.4a Cc: In article <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu>, Buckaroo Bonzai <96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu> wrote: > I have been trying to finger NeXT.COM(specifically Joe_Hollowood@ >NeXT.COM). and have not been able to reach it [I get a message that says >host unreachable]. Is NeXT.COM defunct too? After my NeXTWorld revelation, >this is getting scary. I feel like I've latched onto a sinking ship. Any >help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated... Next's connection to the internet only allows traffic for a sub-set of "typical" internet services. This is for security, commonly called an "internet firewall". You can send email to NeXT, but you can not finger @next.com. Don't worry, NeXT is alive and well. --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 MIME, NeXTmail fine
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CASE Tools Date: 29 Aug 1994 22:20:31 GMT Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede Distribution: world Message-ID: <33tmvf$9c@eirah.ping.de> Hi! Do any CASE (computer aided software enginering) tools exist for NS? Free or commercial and where to get? Thanx for your help. Bye, Torsten
From: ratlifc@ctron.com (Christian A. Ratliff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with DialUpIp Problem Date: 30 Aug 94 05:44:54 Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.; Rochester, NH Distribution: world Message-ID: <RATLIFC.94Aug30054454@indikos.ctron.com> I've got a cube running 3.0, and I'm running DialUpIp 920904. Both ping and traceroute work as I expect, however, telnet and ftp behave rather strangely. telnet only gets to "Escape character is '^]'" then it stops displaying output. I turned on all the debugging flags in the driver, and packets are clearly transiting the connection (126 inpackets, 203 outpackets). I see activity while I'm trying to talk to the remote telnetd through 'durend' debugging messages in the syslog. I have not clue where to go from here. help? christian -- ----------- Christian Ratliff <ratlifc@ctron.com> [|] Cabletron Systems, Inc. Sales Programmer/Analyst [|] 36 Industrial Way "What you haven't said, you can say anytime." [|] Rochester, NH -George W. Davidson [|] MIME and NeXTmail accepted
From: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext Date: 30 Aug 1994 12:15:11 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Sender: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Message-ID: <33v7sf$8i8@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Keywords: X11, XWindows, Xnext Hi folks, I just got the whole X11 stuff from anonymous ftp and wanted to install it. Almost everything went fine, also the MouseX things, everything should be at the right place. Then I tried to run it with Xnext as server, I got the XWindows workspace and two terminals (from .xinitrc) and the xclock. BUT, the terminals didn't have a menu bar, and I also didn't have a menu in the workspace. Moreover, after a while the XWinwow system crashed. Not everything is wrong, I could use the installation with the tvtwm X server. I got two terminals WITH menubars, menu in the workspace and I was able to move windows and work with XWindows. Also, it was stable and didn't crash. PLEASE, does anybody know about problems with the Xnext, or did I maybe miss to install something ? Any tips & tricks ? Thanks in advance. Renato ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman) Subject: Design tools in NS ?? Message-ID: <CvCq24.Cyx@mtkgc.com> Keywords: Object, Design Sender: news@mtkgc.com Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:52 GMT Does anyone have any ideas on tools for Object design, ala Rational Rose, Objectory, etc. ? Does NeXT as a company have a design methodology it uses, or standard in-house tools ? I am very happy with the tools for OO Programming that NS provides, they are the best I've seen, with a close runner up being Visual Works/Smalltalk from Parc Place, though that is comparing apples and oranges (compiled/open/gnu-ish/components vs. interpreted/ garbage collected/proprietary/virtual machine). These tools, however, are not design tools, they presume the design has already been completed. I want to note that this is not meant as a question to illicit a debate on design methodolgies, or the value of such. If I wanted that to happen I would have posted to the 'advocacy' group. All I want is info. --thanks muchly, RS
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I know this is lame, but... Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:28:16 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4iMp0E_00iV1Q3Q90J@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <33tsgq$o9t@galaxy.ucr.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Aug-94 I know this is lame, but... by Buckaroo Bonzai@ultrix.u > I have been trying to finger NeXT.COM(specifically Joe_Hollowood@ > NeXT.COM). and have not been able to reach it [I get a message that says > host unreachable]. Is NeXT.COM defunct too? After my NeXTWorld revelation, > this is getting scary. I feel like I've latched onto a sinking ship. Any > help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated... "Don't panic." :-) NeXT.COM (129.18.1.2) exists and is up as ping and/or traceroute indicate. However, like many companies concerned with security, NeXT has a firewall machine in place which rejects most external connections, including finger requests. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS for Intel Date: 30 Aug 1994 16:49:14 GMT Organization: CTx Technologies, Ltd. Message-ID: <33vnua$7bm@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <33u0r3$p8b@galaxy.ucr.edu> Buckaroo Bonzai spewed: : Approximately how much does NeXTStep for Intel go for, and : how do I acquire it? : Thanks in advance... Educational price is $300 for user+developer, but normally, I think the prices are around $699 and $1999. Chuck -- _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Home Page: http://nova.gmi.edu/krah6781.html - coming soon! | | | | Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Where is Sybase bundled server? Message-ID: <CvCzEM.1Fr@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <29AUG199408564909@acad3.alaska.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 17:32:44 GMT In article <29AUG199408564909@acad3.alaska.edu> fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) writes: .. > Looking at my 3.0 distribution, it appears that the server > is not present. You had to get the 3.0 compatible update from NeXT. .. > 2. Will this server run under 3.x? yep. -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Specifying TeXView window size and placement In-Reply-To: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu's message of 26 Aug 1994 16:29:05 GMT To: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Aug28230855@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <33l58h$dc7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:08:55 GMT >>>>> "DJS" == Donald J Siegel <don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu> writes: In article <33l58h$dc7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) writes: DJS> I'd like TeXView to regularly open its main window at a predetermined size and DJS> place on my screen. Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this? DJS> DJS> Thanks, DJS> don... That's easy -- if you know what to do. :-) Just put the window where you like it, choose the Info->Preferences panel and save these preferences. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES]; NEXTSTEP sounds. NC> NC> *** Version 3.3: (8/18/94) NC> - AUTO CONFIGURES AND CONVERTS MANY SOUND TYPES!!!! NC> - OFFERS A CONVERT SOUND SERVICES ENTRY!!!!! NC> - sox patch level 11!!!! NC> - snd extension now assumes NEXTSTEP format. NC> - Can automatically play a sound after conversion. NC> - NEXTSTEP help added. NC> - UI and object improvements. NC> NC> NC> ARCHIVE SITES: NC> NC> MAB (m68k,i386) NS3.2 binary: NC> NC> ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/sound/GISO.MAB.v3.3.tar.gz NC> ftp://sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/GISO.MAB.v3.3.tar.gz NC> NC> Source NC> NC> ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/sources/sound/GISO.src.v3.3.tar.gz NC> ftp://sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/GISO.src.v3.3.tar.gz NC> \n NC> NC> NC> Ronin Consulting NC> Nicholas W. Christopher NC> Nick_Christopher@gun.com -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: moto@cs.cmu.edu (Motonori Shindou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Upgrade from NS 3.0 to NS3.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:48:20 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MOTO.94Aug30134821@GS81.cs.cmu.edu> Hi, I've recently got a used NeXTstation with NS 3.0. Can I upgrade the OS from 3.0 to the latest (3.2?). If possibile, how much is it and who should I contact to? Thanks in advance! -- === Motonori Shindou CMU SCS Graduate Student e-mail: moto@cs.cmu.edu NiftyServe: GEG04056 TEL: 412-362-9636 FAX: 412-362-9634
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgrade from NS 3.0 to NS3.2 Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:40:59 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <33vufr$sob@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <MOTO.94Aug30134821@gs81.cs.cmu.edu> In article <MOTO.94Aug30134821@gs81.cs.cmu.edu>, Motonori Shindou <moto@cs.cmu.edu> wrote: >Hi, > >I've recently got a used NeXTstation with NS 3.0. Can I upgrade the OS >from 3.0 to the latest (3.2?). If possibile, how much is it and who >should I contact to? Thanks in advance! > > Wait for a couple of months, Motonori. NS3.3 is going to be released in the fall. The upgrade price from 3.0, 3.2 to 3.3 is going to be $299 - both user and developer. I just talked with NeXT yesterday about this issue. She advised me to wait, and that 3.2 is no longer available for an upgrade. They will sell you 3.2 outright, though. BTW - the $299 price is final - no additional academic discounts. It will probably be a worthwhile thing for folks on 3.0 (like me) to upgrade. -- *** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University *** An untapped energy source: our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves. PGP public key furnished on request. Don't Tread on Me.
From: dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Medical dictionary? Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:45:39 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <3409a3$3k1@mailer.fsu.edu> Anyone know of a public or commercial extension to the NeXTstep webster dictionary, or the Library.app for a Medical dictionary? Thanks for any info, Steve Dekorte PS. please respond via email
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: CryptorBundle Message-ID: <CvD6vL.26A@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <33tf7v$m9g@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 20:14:09 GMT In article <33tf7v$m9g@solaris.cc.vt.edu> rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes) writes: > Ignoring the remark in the doc stating that this runs > only on NS3.2 or greater, I tried to implement this on > my 3.0 system. Attempting to test this, I was getting > cryptor bad magic number (not a Mach-O file) in my > console. That's probably due to the fact that NS 3.0 does not load fat bundles properly. You need to lipo out the architectures that you don't need. I don't think lipo is available for NS 3.0, but there is a portable lipo implementation. However, even after all of that you WON'T be able to get it to work with NS3.0 or NS3.1. The encryption API in 3.0 had several problems, and in 3.1 became completely broken due to non-use. For NS3.2, the API was redisgned, and all the bugs exterminated. So I highly doubt you will find any cryptor.bundle like solution for Mail in anything less than 3.2. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: possible to drag in a text file to Mail.app for non-next mail? Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:10:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> Hello, there. NeXT's Mail.app allows one to drag in a file to be sent out via NeXT mail. That is very nice. But most of the time I send non-Next mail to people who do not have NeXT. To send a file through Mail.app I would have to cat the file and copy the contents to be pasted to Mail.app. Is there a way to drag an ASCII file to the Mail window for non-next mail so that the contents of the file will be appended to where the cursor is? Thank you. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP version of Doom available? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:00:05 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8iMvbpi00WBME=2MFu@andrew.cmu.edu> When? Where? Thanks, -Chuck (Either a NEXTSTEP version or a HP/UX version'll do.) Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: strobel@u.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: multimedia and SoftPC or Executor Date: 31 Aug 1994 00:22:36 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <340igc$fp1@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: query on people's experience with multimedia software under SoftPC and/ Keywords: multimedia CD-ROM SoftPC Executor Have people been able to run multimedia software available for Windows and the Macintosh on the NeXT motorola with CD-drive system using SoftPC for the Windows stuff and Executor for the Macintosh stuff? I have the NeXT CD drive and a 040 NeXT cube. Any titles that definitely not work with a NeXT cube? Please email, I'll post a summary if there's interest. Thanks! Nick strobel@astro.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Improv and Color Message-ID: <1994Aug30.223941.669@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:39:41 GMT I have seen Improv in color. There is a way to do it, but I do not have that information. Can anyone help me? Thanks WEs -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS for Intel Date: 31 Aug 1994 02:55:04 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <340re8$pbl@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <33u0r3$p8b@galaxy.ucr.edu> In article <33u0r3$p8b@galaxy.ucr.edu> 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) writes: > Approximately how much does NeXTStep for Intel go for, and > how do I acquire it? $300 student price. Your campus bookstore. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: t2101ft@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,lmu.informatik.next,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to make a boot floppy for NS/intel?? Date: 31 Aug 1994 10:08:39 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <341kr7$aio@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: boot, floppy, NSI Hello, since this morning I cannot boot my NeXT/Intel any more: everything goes fine until after the mount of my root disk, then NS claims that the disk is 100% full, I get a vm_swapout error (28) and evrything comes to a halt. I tried single user mode --- hangs at the same point. I tried to boot from the NS3.2 installation disk, but I always end up in the installation script (yes, I tried single user -s here, too) and since I don't have a SCSI card (and therefore no SCSI CDROM) on my machine I end up in a kernal panic with no way out. Now my next attempt is to make a boot floppy (like I used to have one for black hardware) to boot from the floppy in single user mode and them mount my old root disk. However, I don't know how to do that! I looked at NeXTAnswers, the man pages, but no hints. Can anyone help and tell me how to make a boot floppy for NeXTStep/Intel?? I have access to another NSI system, I just don't know how to do it. Needless to say that I need my machine back ASAP as I can't continue my work otherwise. Thanks a LOT to your help and replies --- replies to: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de helmut
From: nv90-mwe@hemul.nada.kth.se (Martin Wennerberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: S: textprocessor.app with some import features Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:27:25 GMT Message-ID: <3420ft$ddv@news.kth.se> References: <1994Aug30.181442.7392@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit G. A. Pohl (grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de) wrote: : I m lookin for a App, which can import a couple of strange : text-formats. : An announcement appeares to me some times ago, but I lost this : connection uugh : So, tell me, please : -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- : M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C!< : M9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3@P,`I<;6%R9W(T,S(P"GM<8V]L : M;W)T8FP[7')E9#$P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E,C,[?0I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R : M,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V : M7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF,5QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QG<F%Y,C!< : M9F,Q7&-F,2!<"DG";2!L;V]K:6X@9F]R(&$@07!P+"!W:&EC:"!C86X@:6UP : M;W)T(&$@8V]U<&QE(&]F('-T<F%N9V4@=&5X="UF;W)M871S+EP*06X@86YN : M;W5N8V5M96YT(&%P<&5A<F5S('1O(&UE('-O;64@=&EM97,@86=O+"!B=70@ : M22!L;W-T('1H:7,@8V]N;F5C=&EO;KP@=75G:+Q<"EP*4V\L('1E;&P@;64L : *('!L96%S90I]"G,@ : ` : -- : .. viel Spasz! : G.R.I.S.U. : : -- ---------- Martin Wennerberg Student of Computerscience at the University of Stockholm email: nv90-mwe@nada.kth.se (NeXTmail OK) Snailmail: Ektorpsv. 41, 131 47 Nacka Phone (home): +8 716 06 30
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com> Subject: Re: APPLETALK. Where is the #$%@$ thing!!! Message-ID: <netnewsCvDyEz.JAt@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: Netcom References: <33gkfe$7gj@search01.news.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:08:58 GMT In article <33gquq$rf6@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Andrew Abernathy, andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com writes: > >Of course, Macintosh System 7.5 will have TCP/IP built-in. >This should make things a lot easier for a lot of people. A meaningless fact. TCP/IP compatibility has been available on Macs for years. That doesn't mean there is a good cheap way to transfer files with a NeXT that compares to the wonderful implementation that NeXT did for 3.0. I was going to install NS3.2 on a new Intel machine, but now I think I'll be installing Linux instead. I've had enough of NeXT and their dropping support for various rather important things. Personally, I think AppleShare compatibility was more important than having their own hardware. It's really pitiful that they would take something out like that which really distinguished NeXT's UNIX from any other UNIX. NeXT's history is just a series of screw-ups. When will it all end? Another formerly loyal NeXT customer lost... -Frank Price
From: jimra@aol.com (JimRA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTTIME : Date: 31 Aug 1994 01:59:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <341675$rrb@search01.news.aol.com> References: <33s54g$5cj@lorne.stir.ac.uk> In article <33s54g$5cj@lorne.stir.ac.uk>, djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Dr Donald J Baird) writes: > What is it? Where is it? ok, that's the condensed question :) 1) It's a quick-time like (actually uses QT files) multimedia viewer. You too can be like an apple ;) It's actually pretty neat on a multi-tasking system that you can get 20+ fps without too much system degradation. They ran Steve's famous Star Wars demo along with 2 or three other QT movies on a 66DX with only a few drop-outs. 2) Comes from NeXT. I think it 99$ (was offered at 20$ at the expo.) Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: looking for help with real life DSP problem Message-ID: <CvDuMv.23s@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 04:47:19 GMT I am close to clueless about what is possible or practical in the Digital Signal Processing world, but I've seen interesting demos of impressive image processing software that can recover original images buried in lots of noise. I have some recordings on cassette tape of some music that was originally recorded in the 1930s. Its very scratchy, and there is plenty of noise. Is it possible and practical to somehow restore the recordings? What hardware or software is required? Are there companies that will do this for a fee? Is there a more appropriate newsgroup for this request? Thanks for any help in advance. Alex Blakemore -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: teeleh@xs4all.nl (teeleh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need database report writer Date: 30 Aug 1994 07:55:01 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <33uokl$2u2@news.xs4all.nl> References: <33ufc8$93v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > I would appreciate any information anyone might have about available >NEXTSTEP report writers. I know about Impress, but seem to recall hearing >about at least one other report writer. Is anything else available? There is a report palette available from Target Development, it is still in Beta and requires some Objective - C programming. Contact: john@targetdev.com for more information and a demo disk.
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internal modem on NS/I question + SLIP q. Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:45:20 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <343iog$44v@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I was wondering if any of you had any experince with an internal modem inside the intel hardware. More precisely, is it possible to run NS with a modem card acting as a COM device. If so (meaning if that is possible) how was this done and with what type of drivers and modem brand. Also and as an aside question, given the possibility that the above was not possible, how does one create a SLIP line using a modem connected to one of the serial ports. Could anyone refer me to some FTPable soft or Documentation that relates to this? Thanks for the help Jean-Marc debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC? Date: 31 Aug 1994 21:12:48 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> I have head a lot about this on the newsgroupe, as a new NeXTstep/I user I am Very intrested in it, can sombody point me to information on this? James -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl) Subject: S: textprocessor.app with some import features Message-ID: <1994Aug30.181442.7392@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl) Organization: WYDOKS-International, Berlin Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 18:14:42 GMT I m lookin for a App, which can import a couple of strange text-formats. An announcement appeares to me some times ago, but I lost this connection uugh So, tell me, please -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C!< M9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3@P,`I<;6%R9W(T,S(P"GM<8V]L M;W)T8FP[7')E9#$P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E,C,[?0I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R M,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V M7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF,5QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QG<F%Y,C!< M9F,Q7&-F,2!<"DG";2!L;V]K:6X@9F]R(&$@07!P+"!W:&EC:"!C86X@:6UP M;W)T(&$@8V]U<&QE(&]F('-T<F%N9V4@=&5X="UF;W)M871S+EP*06X@86YN M;W5N8V5M96YT(&%P<&5A<F5S('1O(&UE('-O;64@=&EM97,@86=O+"!B=70@ M22!L;W-T('1H:7,@8V]N;F5C=&EO;KP@=75G:+Q<"EP*4V\L('1E;&P@;64L *('!L96%S90I]"G,@ ` -- .. viel Spasz! G.R.I.S.U.
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with CDPlayer.App Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:05:21 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <341v6h$5fj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Two problems: 1. My NeXTDimension worked just fine with musical CDs until power went out last week. Now, I can read data disks (CDs) all right, but if I try to play a musical CD, I get one of two messages: either Cannot Open CD-Rom Drive, or Permission Denied. After this problem has occured, I can no longer access any CD until I reboot. Why would the operation of the system change due to a power outage, and what can I do to remedy the problem? 2. Just bought a new Pentium, and installed NeXTStep Intel (after the power outage, different problem). Here again, data CDs work fine, but the system fails to recognize musical CDs, and in fact, the system locks up completely (cursor goes into infinite spin). Any clues as to the problem will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I apologize if this is a faq. If it is, I would appreciate being pointed to the appropriate place in the appropriate faq. Thanks. Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: possible to drag in a text file to Mail.app for non-next mail? Message-ID: <1994Aug31.091836.9425@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:18:36 GMT In article <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: }~ Hello, there. }~ }~ NeXT's Mail.app allows one to drag in a file to be sent out via NeXT mail. }~ That is very nice. }~ But most of the time I send non-Next mail to people who do not have NeXT. }~ To send a file through Mail.app I would have to cat the file and copy the }~ contents to be pasted to Mail.app. }~ Is there a way to drag an ASCII file to the Mail window for non-next mail }~ so that the contents of the file will be appended to where the cursor is? }~ }~ Thank you. }~ }~ -- }~ Feng Liu }~ Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering }~ University of California, Irvine }~ Irvine, CA 92717 }~ phone: 714-725-3105 /usr/bin/copy DESCRIPTION copy takes the standard input and places it in the NEXTSTEP(tm) pasteboard (for more information on the paste- board and pasteboard data types see the NeXT Developer's Library, accessible through the NeXT Developer target of the Digital Librarian). The input is placed in the pasteboard as ASCII data unless it begins with the Adobe Systems Encap- sulated PostScript file header or the Microsoft Rich Text Format file header, in which case it is placed in the paste- board as one of those data types. OR Open it in Edit, Command-a (select-all), Command-c(copy) Then Command-Paste it at the cursor or use the Services> Mail> Selection. There may be a few utils around that fill in NeXTmail from the MailDemo API, but it's disappearing in 3.3 anyways (darn it!). Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: CryptorBundle Where? Message-ID: <1994Aug29.171134.1354@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <1994Aug26.125917.25777@cc.usu.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:11:34 GMT Thanks for all replys and comments regarding the coming version of CryptorBundle. I hope it'll be out in about 2 weeks. It'll contain PGP-2.6, but will be backward compatible with CryptorBundle-1.0 even after September 1st. PGP-2.6 will not be hacked in any way, so no legal violations. The bundle cannot be used with Mail-3.3(PR1) because Mail-3.3(PR1) doesn't call the encryption/decryption methods. But there is serious hope that it'll work with the final release of Mail-3.3. It'll be fat (Intel+M68K) but not yet HP. -- ----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de ----- Q. How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb? A. You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message.
From: jnl@jeeves.tamu.edu (Jay N. Livingston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XNeXT Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:00:21 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: na Message-ID: <342cv5$3e6@news.tamu.edu> I'm looking for the X-windows program that runs under 2.2. I saw that the latest version was set up for 3.0, but I don't have that on my machine. Is there still a site that has the old X11R4.pkg.tar? Or should I go to 3.0 and run the new version. Also, there were supposed to be some patches allowing 2.X users to run X11R5. Have these been posted yet? email replies preferred. jay jnl@jeeves.tamu.edu
From: Marty Frongillo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Upgrade info for Next Cubes Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:53:22 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <342g2i$i93@transfer.stratus.com> My group as access to about a dozen unused Next cubes. They are all disk-less clients. We are looking for someone/company that may be able upgrade and over-haul the machines to bring them "more up-to-date"; both hardware and software. Any pointers would be appreciated. Do you know of any cube resellers out there? -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: news Subject: Re: Xnext Message-ID: <1994Aug31.094029.7789@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany References: <33v7sf$8i8@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:40:29 GMT In article <33v7sf$8i8@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) writes: > Hi folks, > > I just got the whole X11 stuff from anonymous ftp and wanted to > install it. Almost everything went fine, also the MouseX things, > everything should be at the right place. > > Then I tried to run it with Xnext as server, I got the XWindows > workspace and two terminals (from .xinitrc) and the xclock. BUT, > the terminals didn't have a menu bar, and I also didn't have a > menu in the workspace. > > Moreover, after a while the XWinwow system crashed. > > Not everything is wrong, I could use the installation with the > tvtwm X server. I got two terminals WITH menubars, menu in the > workspace and I was able to move windows and work with XWindows. > Also, it was stable and didn't crash. > > PLEASE, does anybody know about problems with the Xnext, or did > I maybe miss to install something ? Any tips & tricks ? > > Thanks in advance. > > Renato > Don't mix up X server and window manager. The first time you had the Xnext Xserver running without any window manager (therefore no menus and window bars). The second time you had the tvtwm window manager running on top of the Xnext server. You can also use a lot of other window managers instead (for example fvwm). CIAO Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@avus (Operator) Subject: Problems with Physics World 4.1 Organization: /etc/organization Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:50:19 GMT Message-ID: <CvF0Fv.6G4@crash.cts.com> Keywords: Physics Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem) I have just d/l a copy of Physicsworld 4.1 and tried to load it on my black hardware. It seems to load up and open up the windows and then just dumps out. I am running version 3.2, and have plenty of memory, and it seems the author did not leave an email address in the nibs. Can anyone help?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Improv and Color Message-ID: <CvF8FH.MAq@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Aug30.223941.669@weston.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 22:42:52 GMT Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : I have seen Improv in color. There is a way to do it, but I do not have : that information. Can anyone help me? : Thanks : WEs : -- : Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) : The Weston Group | : 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650 Theres a dwrite for it somewhere....I'll dig around and see if I can find it.... later jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: pgraff@next.com (Peter Graffagnino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv and Color Date: 1 Sep 1994 00:03:42 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3435ou$5le@rosie.next.com> References: <CvF8FH.MAq@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CvF8FH.MAq@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) writes: >Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: >: I have seen Improv in color. There is a way to do it, but I do not have >: that information. Can anyone help me? The magic dwrite is: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: Improv and Color Message-ID: <1994Aug31.161139.21684@bozell.com> Keywords: color improv Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <1994Aug30.223941.669@weston.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:11:39 GMT In article <1994Aug30.223941.669@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > I have seen Improv in color. There is a way to do it, but I do not have > that information. Can anyone help me? From Improv's Release_Notes.wn file: Color Graphs Color display of graphs is available as an unsupported feature in Release1.0 of Presentation Builder. Because Improv Release 1.0 shipped before final availability of the NeXT color hardware and NeXTStep operating system, which support color, Presentation Builder color display has not been fully tested. To enable color in Presentation Builder, start a Terminal shell and at the prompt type: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes The Presentation Builder Format Color panel displays the color options. To disable color, type: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette No --- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Director, Networking & Communications | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | Born ready -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM<9C)< M9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!/:&QF<SM]"EQM87)G;#$R M,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@Q,34R7'1X,C,P-%QT>#,T-39<='@T-C`X M7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8Y,3)<='@X,#8T7'1X.3(Q-EQT>#$P,S8X7'1X,3$U,C!< M9C%<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!);B!A<G1I8VQE(#PQ.3DT M075G,S`N,C(S.30Q+C8V.4!W97-T;VXN8V]M/B!J<W!E87)S0'=E<W1O;BYC M;VT@*%=E<R!3<&5A<G,I('=R:71E<SI<"@I<:2`^($D@:&%V92!S965N($EM M<')O=B!I;B!C;VQO<BX@(%1H97)E(&ES(&$@=V%Y('1O(&1O(&ET+"!B=70@ M22!D;R!N;W0@:&%V92`@7`H^('1H870@:6YF;W)M871I;VXN("!#86X@86YY M;VYE(&AE;'`@;64_7`H*7&DP(%P*1G)O;2!);7!R;W8G<R`*7&(@4F5L96%S M95].;W1E<RYW;@I<8C`@(&9I;&4Z7`I<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!< M='@Q-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T M.#`P7'1X-3,R,%QF,EQB7&9S,C1<9F,P7&-F,"!#;VQO<B!'<F%P:'-<"@I< M8C`@"4-O;&]R(&1I<W!L87D@;V8@9W)A<&AS(&ES(&%V86EL86)L92!A<R!A M;B!U;G-U<'!O<G1E9"!F96%T=7)E(&EN(`E296QE87-E,2XP(&]F(%!R97-E M;G1A=&EO;B!"=6EL9&5R+B!"96-A=7-E($EM<')O=B!296QE87-E(#$N,"!S M:&EP<&5D(`EB969O<F4@9FEN86P@879A:6QA8FEL:71Y(&]F('1H92!.95A4 M(&-O;&]R(&AA<F1W87)E(&%N9"!.95A44W1E<"`);W!E<F%T:6YG('-Y<W1E M;2P@=VAI8V@@<W5P<&]R="!C;VQO<BP@4')E<V5N=&%T:6]N($)U:6QD97(@ M8V]L;W(@9&ES<&QA>2`):&%S(&YO="!B965N(&9U;&QY('1E<W1E9"X@5&\@ M96YA8FQE(&-O;&]R(&EN(%!R97-E;G1A=&EO;B!"=6EL9&5R+"!S=&%R="!A M(`E497)M:6YA;"!S:&5L;"!A;F0@870@=&AE('!R;VUP="!T>7!E.EP*(`D) M7`H*7&(@"0ED=W)I=&4@26UP<F]V(%5S94-O;&]R4&%L971T92!997-<"@I< M8C`@"5P*"51H92!0<F5S96YT871I;VX@0G5I;&1E<B!&;W)M870@0V]L;W(@ M<&%N96P@9&ES<&QA>7,@=&AE(&-O;&]R(&]P=&EO;G,N7`I<"@E4;R!D:7-A M8FQE(&-O;&]R+"!T>7!E.EP*7`H*7&(@"0ED=W)I=&4@26UP<F]V(%5S94-O M;&]R4&%L971T92!.;PI<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V M,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R M,%QF,%QB,%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*"EQP87)D7'1X,3$T,%QT>#(S,#!<='@S-#0P M7'1X-#8P,%QT>#4W-C!<='@V.3`P7'1X.#`V,%QT>#DR,#!<='@Q,#,V,%QT M>#$Q-3(P7&8Q7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"`M+2U<"D-H<FES($)R861L97D)"0D) M?"`@"EQB(&-B<F%D;&5Y0&)O>F5L;"YC;VT*7&(P(%P*1&ER96-T;W(L($YE M='=O<FMI;F<@)B!#;VUM=6YI8V%T:6]N<PE\("`K,2`R,30@.#,P(#(R-S,@ M=F]X7`H*7&(@0F]Z96QL+"!*86-O8G,L($ME;GEO;B`F($5C:VAA<F1T+"!) M;F,N"EQB,"`)?"`@*S$@,C$T(#@S,"`R-C@W(&9A>%P*"EQI($%D=F5R=&ES M:6YG(&%N9"!0=6)L:6,@4F5L871I;VYS"EQI,"`)"7P@(`I<:2"J0F]R;B!R 96%D>;I<"EP*7`H*?0H@ `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: possible to drag in a text file to Mail.app for non-next mail? Message-ID: <davisreCvFw11.H4F@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services References: <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> <1994Aug31.091836.9425@totsyssoft.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 07:12:36 GMT In article <1994Aug31.091836.9425@totsyssoft.com>, Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> wrote: > > Then Command-Paste it at the cursor or use the Services> Mail> >Selection. There may be a few utils around that fill in NeXTmail from >the MailDemo API, but it's disappearing in 3.3 anyways (darn it!). > I thought this was just an untrue rumor -- is the API that numerous apps use for their "Suggestion" feature really going away? Rob -- | Robert Davis davisre@netcom.com | "Look up, Hannah. NeXT Mail accepted --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Where is Sybase bundled server? Message-ID: <1994Aug30.214510.879@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <29AUG199408564909@acad3.alaska.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:45:10 GMT In article <29AUG199408564909@acad3.alaska.edu> fflak@acad3.alaska.edu (kelly alonzo h) writes: > > > > > I am looking for information on the single-user Sybase > server that was supposedly bundled with NeXTStep 2.0. I > have not had a need for a database engine until recently > and I never even unpacked the Sybase package on 2.0. > > 1. Was a Sybase server ever bundled with the academic > NeXTStep and if so, what NeXTStep version[s], and how do > you get it running? > > 2. Will this server run under 3.x? > > Thanks, > Lon Kelly > fflak@aurora.alaska.edu Sybase server (5 user license) was bundled with NeXTStep 1.0. It disappeared with NeXTStep 2.0, but it still runs on NS3.2. It you want to get a copy of this server, you have to found an old NS1.0 OD... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> Subject: Any Employment agency Apps out there? Message-ID: <CvFvn8.270@softpac.com.au> Keywords: agency employment application Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave THOMAS) Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 07:04:20 GMT I am looking at building a system for an empolyment agency, to scan in resumes, do OCR from fax's received, and drop these into Digital Librarian or some database for searching and matching, plus all the other stuff they do... Am I re-inventing the wheel? Has anyone done this on NEXT? Your construtive comments would be appreciated. Rgds dave t DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: possible to drag in a text file to Mail.app for non-next mail? Message-ID: <1994Aug31.134609.7635@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:46:09 GMT In article <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > Hello, there. > > NeXT's Mail.app allows one to drag in a file to be sent out via NeXT mail. > That is very nice. > But most of the time I send non-Next mail to people who do not have NeXT. > To send a file through Mail.app I would have to cat the file and copy the > contents to be pasted to Mail.app. > Is there a way to drag an ASCII file to the Mail window for non-next mail > so that the contents of the file will be appended to where the cursor is? > > Thank you. > > -- > Feng Liu > Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering > University of California, Irvine > Irvine, CA 92717 > phone: 714-725-3105 Open your text in Edit.app select the portion of text you want to send go to services menu Services->Mail->Selection Don't forget to check the non-NeXTMail option Hope that helps Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: possible to drag in a text file to Mail.app for non-next mail? Date: 1 Sep 1994 09:39:43 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3447gv$q13@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <340ap8$6s0@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > Is there a way to drag an ASCII file to the Mail window for > non-next mail so that the contents of the file will be appended > to where the cursor is? Not that I know of. The closest alternative I know of is to pick up TickleServices (and then send Scott Hess the shareware payment for it, which is quite minimal). Once you have TickleServices installed, you could position your cursor where you want it, and then select menu item "Services/TickleServices/Import Ascii..." Up will pop a dialog that you can use to select the ascii file you are interested in. This doesn't seem to be the standard NS-3.whatever dialog, so you can't drag the ascii filename into the dialog. Still, it works nicer than cat-ing a file, then copying & pasting it into your email message. TickleServices implements a number of other useful functions too. My only connection to TickleServices is that I've paid the fee, and I get a lot of use out of it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug31.163429.19800@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:34:29 GMT Distribution: inet References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) writes: >Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: >: > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: >: > >: > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go >: > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue >: > a product. > >: I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue >: products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about >: bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new >: business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford >: the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. > >Right. "Lotus announces that despite a commanding leadership in the >spreadsheet business, they are stoppin the development and delivery >of 1-2-3 as of today. They have no spreadsheets to replace it." Closer than you think: August 15, 1994 Thank you for using Lotus Improv. ... In order to help you with your technological planning, I want to let you know that Lotus is focused on incorporating elements of Improv technology into 1-2-3 and other Lotus products and has decided not to develop future, standalone releases of Improv. I liked Improv so much on the NeXT that I got it for my kids' PCs and told anybody who would listen to buy a copy for their PC. So much for my technological planning, but then, I also own a Cube! -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: jmm@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with CDPlayer.App Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:19:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <940901091956.9598AABqF.jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu> References: <341v6h$5fj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry to poach on Randy Jackson's CDPlayer thread, but I just ran into a different CDPlayer.app problem after having none for at least two years: The volume has effectively vanished. Not completely: if I crank up the volume control on my CDROM drive (NeXT original) and listen really closely, I can faintly hear something. But other than that, gone. So I looked at dwrites, and sure enough, CDPlayer has a Volume dwrite. I tried various values, and it seems to accept a maximum of 576. That gets back the volume -- I think. I swear, the max volume is not as loud as it used to be: I can barely hear some of my CDs, with a nice pair of mini Sony headphones. Since it's all digital, shouldn't there be a way to request a higher volume setting? Anyone else run into volume problems? jm2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sascha@anarch.ping.de (Sascha Gresk) Subject: xterm in program "Xfe" cant handle function keys !!? Message-ID: <1994Sep1.143628.7248@anarch.ping.de> Keywords: X,Xfe Sender: usenet@anarch.ping.de Organization: LogikFabrik/WiLa Dortmund Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:36:28 GMT xterm in program "Xfe" cant handle function keys !! well if wished I had another keyboard ... but still I think Xfe was written for the black hardware, so this _should_ have been supported.... any ideas ? cheers, sascha
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Smalltalk for NeXT Message-ID: <CvGH68.IAB@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <33s82k$n9l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:49:20 GMT S. F. Ruehauf (gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : is there a Smalltalk (80 or V) package available for the NeXT? You can still get VisualWorks 1 for NeXTSTEP, but for black only. VisualWorks 2 will not be ported to NeXTSTEP. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Stay Alive. Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | Sixty-Five Grand. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Feed the hole." csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | -Jack Grimaldi, Romeo is Bleeding
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC? Date: 1 Sep 1994 15:53:42 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <344te6$dtv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> In article <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) writes: > I have head a lot about this on the newsgroupe, as a new NeXTstep/I user > I am Very intrested in it, can sombody point me to information on this? A demo version of SoftPC comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD. To get the real thing, you have to send Insignia $$. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TerminalServices from within Terminal ? Date: 1 Sep 1994 16:41:17 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <34507d$e9a@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Isn't it a little bit stupid that you can't access Terminal Services from within Terminal ?? I've written a simple service that open a new shell and starts up ncftp to the current selection with Cmd-@ as keyboard shortcut. Now I'd like to use it from within e.g. 'tin'. No way. I have to copy/paste the thing into Edit, and from there it works... Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC? Date: 1 Sep 1994 18:13:54 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <3455l2$j9@gamera.umd.edu> References: <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> <344te6$dtv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote: : In article <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> argon@starburst.umd.edu (James : Lang) writes: : > I have head a lot about this on the newsgroupe, as a new NeXTstep/I user : > I am Very intrested in it, can sombody point me to information on this? : A demo version of SoftPC comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD. To get the real : thing, you have to send Insignia $$. How would I get in to contact with them though? : -- Todd Takken : takken@leland.stanford.edu -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP/PPP from NeXT Date: 1 Sep 1994 19:04:27 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <3458jr$87c@umd5.umd.edu> I have a NeXTstation (25 MHz mono with NS 3.2) at work, with a ZyXEL U-1496E modem and the NXFax 1.4 software. It's connected directly to the Internet, so I clearly don't need a SLIP connec- tion here. I would like to be able to run Mosaic or a look-alike from my home computer (a 386 box with Windows), and it occurred to me that I might be able to find some software out there that would allow me to dial up my NeXT from home and use email, read the news, and use Mosaic. Is there such a thing? Thanks, Rod Price rprice@reunion.umd.edu
From: uk05790@mik.uky.edu (victor e garzon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FORTRAN Compiler? Date: 1 Sep 94 16:53:21 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <uk05790.778438401@mik.uky.edu> Summary: Is there any FORTRAN Compiler for NeXTSTEP out there? Keywords: FORTRAN Compiler?? Is there any low cost FORTRAN compiler for NS out there? Thanks.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ST43400N formatting to 1024byte sectors wanted Date: 1 Sep 1994 21:49:42 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <345i9n$dts@news.mic.ucla.edu> Is there a program that formats an ST43400N disk drive to 1024byte sectors? I understand that this will speed up the system substantially, and add some megabytes. I already have the disk at 512byte sectors and two partitions. This utility needs to be running under NS/FIP, not NS/040. I am looking either for instructions, or for a utility program I would buy that will do this. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KERMIT ON NS/FIP Message-ID: <1994Sep1.095315.28695@miavx1> From: cmboggess@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Date: 1 Sep 94 09:53:15 -0500 Organization: Miami University Hi. I know that everybody is probably getting sick of me posting about this, but this is the only place where I can get reliable answers to my questions. if you don't remember my situation let me fill you in. I'm running NS/FIP and I desperately need kermit. several kind souls sent me the ftp sites that I can get it from and how to set it up. well, I did all that, several times, with any version of kermit i could find. when i get to the executable phase and run it I get the message "this software is not compatible with this machine" (or something like that). people tell me to dl the source code for kermit and build it myself, but I have no idea how to do that or where to get it. what would really help is if someone could tell me where I could get kermit for ns/fip. thanks in advance. -clint
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I create new spelling dictionaries for NEXTSTEP? Date: 1 Sep 1994 20:53:25 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <345f05$sbs@due.uninett.no> Is there a way to use an ascii list of words to create a new customized dictionary that can be used with Edit instead of the regular dictionary? I need a Norwegian dictionary that beeps on english words. To use the english dictionary customized to not stop on Norwegian words and stop on english words, is not an option because I still want the english dictionary to be intact in order to correct english texts. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Clock in GatorFTP v. 1.7 doesn't work Message-ID: <CvGyz9.DvF@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 21:13:57 GMT I've got a weird problem with GatorFTP version 1.7 - When getting a file, the application's icon changes to the clock icon, but the clock doesnt update during the file retrieval - it keeps showing 0%, then changes back to the FTP+ icon when finished retrieving the data. The weird thing is that for other logins in my group who use the same application - everything works fine ! Does anyone have a clue what's wrong with my login ? Thanks.
From: muellerc@mathcs.carleton.edu (Carl Muelller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Edit's source code Date: 31 Aug 1994 21:03:19 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <342r6n$m35@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> Anyone know if it's available? -muellerc@mathcs.carleton.edu
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk, public window server work under PNI with dynamics IP? Date: 2 Sep 1994 02:12:30 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3461me$4tq@news.service.uci.edu> In article <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) writes: > Some time ago I posted a query about configuring PNI for dynamic slip > addresses. I got several helpful responses from people (even one phone > call) and my solution was quite easy. The trick is to capture a line > from the other end (in my case this says "Your IP address is > xx.xx.xx.xx. MTU is xx bytes). Here is a fragment from my login.tcl > script... > > Thanks again for the help. > > > # Other end responds with my IP address > # Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in msg > set timeout 10 > while { 1 } { > $DIALER rexpect \ > {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)\. > MTU is ([0-9]+) bytes} { break } > } > syslog LOG_DEBUG "Entering SLIP mode as address $1 MTU $2" > # > # Now I have the correct IP address, issue ifconfig to complete everything > # > exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1 > > =================================================================== > Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710 I have my login.tcl file setup similarly for our slip site at UC Irvine, plus I also added a line to get the routing exec /usr/etc/route add $1 127.0.0.1 0 I am not sure if this line is necessary but I find you will have to wait long for the printer panel to come up if you choose Print from any application without this line. Everything works fine except I can not do talk(either initiating or replying to a request), and I can not use my slip-connected Intel machine as a public window server to run programs on a Black at work. Every time I run OpenSesame or "rsh command -NXHost slip-hostname", it always complains "can not connect to remote host". Our SLIP site gives dynamics IP and also a hostname like slipxxxx.nts.uci.edu associated with the IP. I could rlogin in to my slip-connected machine by using this assigned hostname(My machine is of course set to a different name since I do not know before the slip connection what name is going to be given to me.) I tried all of the following options: 1. rename my hostname to the one given to me after the connection. 2. set an alias for localhost to my machine name in netinfo 3. create an entry with the given IP and hostname in netinfo and alias it to the local hostname None of them worked. With talk, I sometimes got "Checking for invitation on caller's machine" or "unknown socket" type of messages But was never successfully connected. I am getting quite frustrated and wish that PNI is easier to setup. I also tried to get a modem on the Black slab at work and connect directly to the Next machine with a fixed IP(which I obtained already). It took me a couple of days to setup everything according to the PNI manual. I could now dial in, get connected, but the connection just hangs. The messages on both the server and the client seem to say they are connected and commands have been executed, but I simply connot do anything. The server is set up to have a login name pni0 so whenever I dial in the serial port will automatically login as pni0. If I use a terminal emulator to dial in I see the server giving out the IP address and going into slip. I followed all the instructions available from the PNI1.11 manual and wonder if there are tricks that I have to do, particularly with such things as routine. here is my pni0.config file on the server: ## PART I. ## PART I. set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 set Config(pni:MTU) 1524 set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 128.200.90.50 set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 128.200.90.30 set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0 set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 set Config(slip:MODE) slip # PART II. stack PNI pni stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty # PART III. proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } I would appreciate anyone's help to solve the above problems. Please send me an e-mail or post a message on the net. If I could get either the dynamic IP option or the direct connection option to work, it means that I can run many applications on the Next machine at work from an Intel machine at home. I assume many next users must be interested in that too. By the way, I tried to use an intel machine connected via ethernet as a public server for the same black next machine. It works just fine. So it is definitely the slip connection problem. Thanks a lot to everyone. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to decode, etc, ftp mail chunks Date: 1 Sep 1994 21:25:17 -0400 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <345utt$mcf@explorer.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recently had to go back to ftpmail for my ftp duties. Thing is, I can't remember how to resurect the uuencoded chunks that big files come in using my NeXT. Any suggestions from the NeXT cognescenti? Thanks in advance. Peace, James
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk, public window server under PNI with Dynamic IP? Date: 2 Sep 1994 01:53:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3460jc$4dh@news.service.uci.edu> References: <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> In article <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) writes: > Some time ago I posted a query about configuring PNI for dynamic slip > addresses. I got several helpful responses from people (even one phone > call) and my solution was quite easy. The trick is to capture a line > from the other end (in my case this says "Your IP address is > xx.xx.xx.xx. MTU is xx bytes). Here is a fragment from my login.tcl > script... > > Thanks again for the help. > > > # Other end responds with my IP address > # Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in msg > set timeout 10 > while { 1 } { > $DIALER rexpect \ > {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)\. > MTU is ([0-9]+) bytes} { break } > } > syslog LOG_DEBUG "Entering SLIP mode as address $1 MTU $2" > # > # Now I have the correct IP address, issue ifconfig to complete everything > # > exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1 > > =================================================================== > Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710 I have my login.tcl file setup similarly for our slip site at UC Irvine, plus I also added a line to get the routing exec /usr/etc/route add $1 127.0.0.1 0 I am not sure if this line is necessary but I find you will have to wait long for the printer panel to come up if you choose Print from any application without this line. Everything works fine except I can not do talk(either initiating or replying to a request), and I can not use my slip-connected Intel machine as a public window server to run programs on a Black at work. Every time I run OpenSesame or "rsh command -NXHost slip-hostname", it always complains "can not connect to remote host". Our SLIP site gives dynamics IP and also a hostname like slipxxxx.nts.uci.edu associated with the IP. I could rlogin in to my slip-connected machine by using this assigned hostname(My machine is of course set to a different name since I do not know before the slip connection what name is going to be given to me.) I tried all of the following options: 1. rename my hostname to the one given to me after the connection. 2. set an alias for localhost to my machine name in netinfo 3. create an entry with the given IP and hostname in netinfo and alias it to the local hostname None of them worked. With talk, I sometimes got "Checking for invitation on caller's machine" or "unknown socket" type of messages But was never successfully connected. I am getting quite frustrated and wish that PNI is easier to setup. I also tried to get a modem on the Black slab at work and connect directly to the Next machine with a fixed IP(which I obtained already). It took me a couple of days to setup everything according to the PNI manual. I could now dial in, get connected, but the connection just hangs. The messages on both the server and the client seem to say they are connected and commands have been executed, but I simply connot do anything. The server is set up to have a login name pni0 so whenever I dial in the serial port will automatically login as pni0. If I use a terminal emulator to dial in I see the server giving out the IP address and going into slip. I followed all the instructions available from the PNI1.11 manual and wonder if there are tricks that I have to do, particularly with such things as routine. here is my pni0.config file on the server: ## PART I. ## PART I. set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 set Config(pni:MTU) 1524 set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 128.200.90.50 set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 128.200.90.30 set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0 set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 set Config(slip:MODE) slip # PART II. stack PNI pni stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty # PART III. proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } I would appreciate anyone's help to solve the above problems. Please send me an e-mail or post a message on the net. If I could get either the dynamic IP option or the direct connection option to work, it means that I can run many applications on the Next machine at work from an Intel machine at home. I assume many next users must be interested in that too. By the way, I tried to use an intel machine connected via ethernet as a public server for the same black next machine. It works just fine. So it is definitely the slip connection problem. Thanks a lot to everyone. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 e-mai: fliu@uci.edu phone: 714-725-3105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brian_triplett@radian.com (Triplett, Brian) Subject: Diagnostic software Sender: usenet@radian.uucp (Dale Whiteaker-Lewis) Message-ID: <brian_triplett.42.000EA044@radian.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 19:37:27 GMT Organization: Radian Corporation, Austin, TX, USA I'm looking for diagnostic software that will test video, com ports, hard drive, floppy drive, memory, and pcmcia (if it exists yet) I would need the software to run for about 24 hours to test new machines that come in. If you have any suggestions please email me. Thanks Brian Triplett brian_triplett@radian.com
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Searching for MIDI-apps, sequenzer and editor - Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:44:48 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Zi5xuK4.jhepp@delphi.com> References: <CvAH9I.8u@manki.toppoint.de> Manfred Roehr <manroe@manki.toppoint.d> writes: >Hello, > >is there any good sound-editor and sequenzer for MIDI? > >Manfred > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------- >* Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * Depending on your needs (how good your chops are) there are few MIDI choices on NextStep. Sequence from Pinnacle looks like a pretty good sequencer if you're an accomplished player, but I've yet to see a good bare-bones, nuts-and-bolts sequencing/composition app. At the moment it's "Sorry, wrong OS" for music. I keep hoping though. JHEPP@Delphi.com
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I create new spelling dictionaries for NEXTSTEP? Date: 2 Sep 1994 09:52:04 GMT Message-ID: <346sk4$qig@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <345f05$sbs@due.uninett.no> Eystein Dugstad writes > Is there a way to use an ascii list of words to create a new customized > dictionary that can be used with Edit instead of the regular dictionary? I > need a Norwegian dictionary that beeps on english words. > > To use the english dictionary customized to not stop on Norwegian words > and stop on english words, is not an option because I still want the > english dictionary to be intact in order to correct english texts. > check for ispell v3.1 (ftp.cs.ucla.edu) and nextispell (ftp.cs.orst.edu) I mailed him more information personally, and for anyone how's interested: I'm still working on a new version of nextispell. -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Problems with CDPlayer.App Message-ID: <CvGKzB.AA@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <341v6h$5fj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:11:35 GMT In article <341v6h$5fj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: > 1. My NeXTDimension worked just fine with musical CDs until > power went out last week. Now, I can read data disks (CDs) > all right, but if I try to play a musical CD, I get one of > two messages: either Cannot Open CD-Rom Drive, or Permission > Denied. After this problem has occured, I can no longer > access any CD until I reboot. Why would the operation of the > system change due to a power outage, and what can I do to > remedy the problem? > I solved my problems with CDPlayer.app (I got the message "Cannot Open CD-Rom Drive", too and in the console window there were some messages about "no permission...") by setting the suid bit on CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer. No it works nearly perfectly. The only mistake is, that I cannot adjust volume onscreen with my Toshiba 4101. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:23:18 GMT Having worked with Powersoft's "PowerBuilder" GUI 4GL product in corporate environments since it's early beta release almost 4 yrs ago, and now NEXTSTEP for 1+ yr, I have come to the conclusion that there are some critical pieces missing from the NEXTSTEP development environment, even with EOF that NeXT needs to understand. Fortune 500 companies (such as the one I work for) have jumped on the PowerBuilder bandwagon by the truckload for their mission-critical application development for 2 fundamental reasons: 1) To harness the power of Powersoft's "DataWindow" object, available in NO other product (it's actually patented). 2) To relieve themselves of writing raw C/C++ MS-Windows SDK code in order to deliver GUI-based corporate database applications. The second reason above is addressed in NEXTSTEP with Objective-C. Yes, it's based on C, but the number of language extensions to get to Objective-C are minimal. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? The problem is the first reason. NEXTSTEP Developer, for all it's excellence, does not have any but the simplest (ie. DB/EOTableView) database display functionalities of Powersoft's DataWindow. And it IS a problem for Fortune 500 companies. Businesses depends on information, but business is made up of data. The question is: how do we best construct information from corporate data so that we can use it as a competitive weapon? Object technologies promise to speed the time to realization of corporate applications in the long run through re-use, but that benefit can be more than offset if the amount of work to be done building data containers, lists, manipulators, sorters, handlers and presentation objects is too great. A recent Request For Proposals was recently posted to the net for "...the development of a NeXTSTEP ObjectWare component...[that will] be a subclass of DBTableView. The class will function identically to the DBTableView with the exception of supporting a single summary row placed at either the top or bottom of the data rows of the DBTableView. The summary row will contain a summary of the information held in the data rows of the DBTableView, and would be "locked" into position and kept from scrolling as the user scrolls through the data rows. As an example, for numeric data this could contain a number which represents the sum of the values in all of the other rows in a given column..." Presumably this represents a contract worth something in the 5 (6?) figure range. What happens if this proposer discovers the need to have a control-break or cross-tab TableView? Another 5/6 figure contract added to the first begins to add up... We will find a simpler, ready-made solution. Powersoft's PowerBuilder, with it's DataWindow is an obvious choice. If NeXT expects to target Fortune 500 companies it must realize that it is technology for BUSINESS's sake, not technology for TECHNOLOGY's sake that cuts corporate PO's. THE "DATAWINDOW" OBJECT Powersoft's DataWindow objects handle the types of requirements outlined in the above Request for Proposals EFFORTLESSLY...you simply: 1) Pick the type of DataWindow you want (Graph, Tabular, Grid, CrossTab, FreeForm, Labels, etc), specify your data source (Database Tables, Stored Procedures, None (programmatic), etc), 2) Create a new instance (click "OK"), layout your columns, drag "computed fields" wherever required (in the header, footer, as a separate column, etc, 3) Simply type in the formula you would like the computed field to compute (ie. SUM("employee_salary" for all) would cause the value of this computed column to contain the average salary for all employees. If we wanted to place the computed column in the actual rows of data (for EACH employee record retrieved), simply drag it there and the DataWindow will compute the field for each row retrieved (ie. "employee_salary" - AVG("employee_salary" for all) would display the dollar difference between this employee's salary and the average salary). 4) ONE line of code is required to make it work: you tell the DataWindow to "Retrieve" itself (ie. when the user pushes a button, the window it's on opens, etc). WHAT'S THE POINT? WERE THE DATAWINDOW OBJECTS AVAILABLE as an Interface Builder Palette, we, the Fortune 500, would have available the best of both worlds in ONE integrated environment. Object technology (EO, Obj-C, IB, PB) AND a data interface object robust enough to handle ANY business requirement. This combination would represent, I believe, the most comprehensive, extensible custom business application development environment on the PLANET. How do I know? Because Powersoft became a $100M NASDAQ company in less than 4 years by selling products based on ONE OBJECT - the DataWindow. GIVE US A REASON By Powersoft making available it's "crown jewel", the DataWindow object, either as part of the EOF palette (2.0?) or as a 3rd party palette vendor on top of EO, we could, indeed, have the best of both worlds. Powersoft knows about NEXTSTEP, as it is listed on the PowerBuilder feedback cards under "Current GUI:", but may believe that a full port of their PowerBuilder 4GL development environment is necessary (where would that leave NEXTSTEP Developer?), when really all that's required is a Powersoft DataWindow palette, fully integrated with EOF. Why would any Fortune 500 business develop applications using ANYTHING else? AT LEAST GET ACQUAINTED NeXT EOF engineers need to look at the DataWindow object from Powersoft, and Powersoft DataWindow engineers need to take a look at EOF. There has to be enough common ground to at least warrant a look at the possibilities... NeXT: Powersoft Corporation 70 Blanchard Road Burlington, MA 01803 (617) 229-2200 Powersoft: NeXT Computer, Inc 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 (800) 848-6398 =========================== -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need database report writer Date: 2 Sep 1994 10:32:00 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <346uv0$1rp@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <33ufc8$93v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <33ufc8$93v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > I would appreciate any information anyone might have about available > NEXTSTEP report writers. I know about Impress, but seem to recall hearing > about at least one other report writer. Is anything else available? Have you seen CompleteAccess from Oceansoft, Inc.? Great ideas because reusable report-components (OORW - object oriented report writing ;-)) Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP from NeXT Message-ID: <jpanicoCvI977.5Hn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3458jr$87c@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:52:19 GMT Rodney Price (rprice@reunion.umd.edu) wrote: : I have a NeXTstation (25 MHz mono with NS 3.2) at work, with a : ZyXEL U-1496E modem and the NXFax 1.4 software. It's connected : directly to the Internet, so I clearly don't need a SLIP connec- : tion here. I would like to be able to run Mosaic or a look-alike : from my home computer (a 386 box with Windows), and it occurred : to me that I might be able to find some software out there that : would allow me to dial up my NeXT from home and use email, read : the news, and use Mosaic. Is there such a thing? : Thanks, : Rod Price : rprice@reunion.umd.edu TranSys PNI is, I believe, both a SLIP client and a SLIP server. I think that if you get PNI going on your NeXT, you could have it answer the phone and negotiate a SLIP connection with your Windoze box. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP from NeXT Message-ID: <CvIBxC.9GK@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <3458jr$87c@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:51:11 GMT In article <3458jr$87c@umd5.umd.edu> rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price) writes: .. > to find some software out there that > would allow me to dial up my NeXT from home and use email, read > the news, and use Mosaic. There's a public-domain SLIP package, aka the now-famous Louis Mamakos SLIP. There's a recent release of (still Beta I believe) PPP out there in the public domain. There's a commercial PPP package for the NeXT you can buy from Morningstar. 800-558-7827 Costs $400 if you use it to connect to an I'net service provider, $795 otherwise. For Louis Mamakos' SLIP, I'd look at the NeXT ftp archive sites, for the public domain PPP, I'd query the ppp newsgroup. -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: SoftPC? Message-ID: <CvIBzC.9HJ@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <3455l2$j9@gamera.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:52:23 GMT In article <3455l2$j9@gamera.umd.edu> argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) writes: > Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote: > : In article <342rog$87o@gamera.umd.edu> argon@starburst.umd.edu (James > : Lang) writes: > > : > I have head a lot about this on the newsgroupe, as a new NeXTstep/I user > : > I am Very intrested in it, can sombody point me to information on this? > > : A demo version of SoftPC comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD. To get the real > : thing, you have to send Insignia $$. > > How would I get in to contact with them though? 415 - 694 - 7600 -- personal opinions
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FORTRAN Compiler? Date: 2 Sep 1994 17:54:06 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <347oru$j2@news.iastate.edu> References: <uk05790.778438401@mik.uky.edu> victor e garzon writes > Is there any low cost FORTRAN compiler for NS out there? > Thanks. The fortran to C converter, f2c, works quite nicely on a NeXT (assuming, of course, that you have the Dev environment with the C compiler installed). It's free, and can be found on the archives. Takes a little work to assemble, but can be done for either black or white. Otherwise, if you are on black, there is the Absoft compiler, which we have on some of hte machines here and which works very nicely, but is ~$750 per two seats, as I remember. Do not know about White (or....what is HP called now, Gree?) hardware. Hope this helps -- Tom ========================================================================== = Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: mudog@aol.com (MuDog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP Pascal? Date: 2 Sep 1994 14:03:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <347pcs$sf9@search01.news.aol.com> Does anyone know if there's a Pascal compiler for NEXTSTEP? If so, where can I find it? Thanks, Josh Neal mudog@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) Subject: Re: Smalltalk for NeXT Message-ID: <rburnsCvIKBp.9KI@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <33s82k$n9l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <CvGH68.IAB@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:52:37 GMT In article <CvGH68.IAB@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >S. F. Ruehauf (gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: >: is there a Smalltalk (80 or V) package available for the NeXT? I have heard that the original intent of the Next developers was for NeXT to include Smalltalk as one of their development tools. Can anyone verify this? What would it take to create a smalltalk implementation that was tightly coupled to the Next objects? I've heard that Smalltalk is significantly faster to develop object oriented applications in than Objective C. Would anyone care to comment on this? Thanks. >You can still get VisualWorks 1 for NeXTSTEP, but for black only. I wish this were available for Intel.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Re: TerminalServices from within Terminal ? Message-ID: <CvH3yo.45G@prosoft.wimsey.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. References: <34507d$e9a@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 23:01:35 GMT In article <34507d$e9a@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Isn't it a little bit stupid that you can't access Terminal Services from > within Terminal ?? > > I've written a simple service that open a new shell and starts up ncftp > to the current selection with Cmd-@ as keyboard shortcut. Now I'd like to > use it from within e.g. 'tin'. No way. I have to copy/paste the thing > into Edit, and from there it works... > > Gregor > > In my experience it seems that Apps can't supply services to themselves. This has caused me pain several times. Does anyone have some incite into this? -- Glen Biagioni glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: kkim@agsm.ucla.edu (Kwanho Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Fortran ofor HP NextStep Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:26:22 GMT Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management Distribution: world Message-ID: <34859u$1ju@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Smalltalk for NeXT Message-ID: <CvIuMA.Epy@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <rburnsCvIKBp.9KI@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 21:34:57 GMT In article <rburnsCvIKBp.9KI@netcom.com> rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) writes: > What would it take to create a smalltalk implementation that was > tightly coupled to the Next objects? Probably a CPOK or C-Primitive call to a NeXTSTEP lib. in other words, lots. > I've heard that Smalltalk is significantly faster to develop object > oriented applications in than Objective C. Would anyone care to comment > on this? The situation is much more complex to provide a simple answer to this admittedly simple question. And, there are lots of other factors which should enter into the choice between the two, most of them project specific. Care to elaborate? -- personal opinions
From: strobel@u.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FORTRAN Compiler? Date: 2 Sep 1994 22:35:06 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <3489aq$6ff@news.u.washington.edu> References: <uk05790.778438401@mik.uky.edu> <347oru$j2@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: >victor e garzon writes >> Is there any low cost FORTRAN compiler for NS out there? >> Thanks. >The fortran to C converter, f2c, works quite nicely on a NeXT (assuming, >of course, that you have the Dev environment with the C compiler >installed). It's free, and can be found on the archives. Takes a little >work to assemble, but can be done for either black or white. >Otherwise, if you are on black, there is the Absoft compiler, which we >have on some of hte machines here and which works very nicely, but is >~$750 per two seats, as I remember. Do not know about White (or....what >is HP called now, Gree?) hardware. >Hope this helps -- Tom You can pick up a recent version of f2c at netlib.att.com in /netlib/f2c using anonymous ftp. I use this fortran package all the time. The C output can look ugly especially the IO stuff, but if you don't mind that or are not interested in the C output and just want to run some fortran program, then it is very nice. There is a script included so you can simply do a "f77 <file> -o <executable> [flags]" just like you'd do with a fortran compiler. Note that the flags are those for your C compiler! Nick strobel@astro.washington.edu
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pine and mail question Message-ID: <1994Sep2.142542.18337@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 2 Sep 94 14:25:42 EDT Organization: Univ of Miami IR I just got PINE working on NeXTSTEP/Intel. I can set inbox as "inbox-path=Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox" in .pinerc but this only lets me read messages which have already been read by NeXT Mail program. How can I see newly arrived messages (and previously read messages)? I would like to be able to connect from home and use PINE as a user-friendly substitute for Unix "mail". I can work with PINE now but not read new messages. Thomas J. Herbert Univ. of Miami
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pine and mail question Date: 2 Sep 1994 23:35:34 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <348cs6$3u1@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Sep2.142542.18337@umiami.ir.miami.edu> In article <1994Sep2.142542.18337@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > I would like to be able to connect from home and use > PINE as a user-friendly substitute for Unix "mail". I use elm. It has the same mailbox structure as the NeXT's Mail.app. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pine and mail question Date: 3 Sep 1994 00:29:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <348g0c$se0@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <1994Sep2.142542.18337@umiami.ir.miami.edu> In article <1994Sep2.142542.18337@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: >I just got PINE working on NeXTSTEP/Intel. I can set >inbox as "inbox-path=Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox" in .pinerc >but this only lets me read messages which have already >been read by NeXT Mail program. > >How can I see newly arrived messages (and previously >read messages)? I didn't change anything after installing Pine, and it can get new messages in the spool. Go back to the default .pinerc, and it should work. To get to other Mail.app mailboxes from Pine, I created bunch of symbolic links in ~/mail directory, e.g.: Active -> ../Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox@ etc. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: ST43400N formatting to 1024byte sectors wanted Message-ID: <CvIILD.B6I@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <345i9n$dts@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:15:13 GMT In article <345i9n$dts@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > Is there a program that formats an ST43400N disk drive to 1024byte > sectors? I understand that this will speed up the system substantially, > and add some megabytes. > > I already have the disk at 512byte sectors and two partitions. This > utility needs to be running under NS/FIP, not NS/040. > I have not been able to use a 1024 bytes/sector disk on an Intel machine. I tried with a Maxtor 8760 which I had to format down to 512 bytes/sectors in order to be usable (as a boot disk btw.), another attempt was to connect a 1024 byte/sector Toshiba MK538FB which runs fine on a Black Station - without success. I guess it is not possible to use 1024 byte/sector harddrives with NS/FIP. Any different experiences anyone? -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: hyongsop@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Source Code for Draw Date: 3 Sep 1994 04:49:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <348v9k$8nq@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Hi, Does anyone know where I can find the source code for the NeXTSTEP developer demo application Draw? Is it available for public access? Thanks, --Hyong (hyongsop@eecs.umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Need database report writer Message-ID: <1994Sep2.182210.13436@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <346uv0$1rp@balu.ixpoint.de> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:22:10 GMT In article <346uv0$1rp@balu.ixpoint.de> gguelden@ixpoint.de writes: > In article <33ufc8$93v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) > writes: > > I would appreciate any information anyone might have about available > > NEXTSTEP report writers. I know about Impress, but seem to recall > hearing > > about at least one other report writer. Is anything else available? > > Have you seen CompleteAccess from Oceansoft, Inc.? Great ideas because > reusable report-components (OORW - object oriented report writing ;-)) > > Gerd > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + > + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + > + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + > + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + > + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Is there a demo version of CompleteAccess? What is their E-Mail? Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Brent J. Krawchuk" <bjk@rahul.net> Subject: HELP: Upgrade 2.1->3.2 caused boot_rc loop Message-ID: <CvIEtn.8yv@rahul.net> Sender: news@rahul.net (Usenet News) Nntp-Posting-User: bjk Organization: a2i network Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 15:53:47 GMT Well, I did an upgrade yesterday from 2.1 to 3.2 The upgrade seemed to go flawlessly, no strange messages nothing. BUT! I couldn't reboot. The message: boot_rc continued to be printed ad infinitum every second or two. Does anyone know what went wrong and how the heck i can fix this? Thanks! My computer (black slab non-turbo) is rendered unusable until i figure this out. :( -Bj -- Brent J. Krawchuk <bjk@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Source Code for Draw Message-ID: <CvKBLx.JpJ@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <348v9k$8nq@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 16:39:32 GMT Hyong Sop Shim (hyongsop@dip.eecs.umich.edu) wrote: : Hi, : Does anyone know where I can find the source code for the NeXTSTEP : developer demo application Draw? Is it available for public access? : Thanks, : --Hyong : (hyongsop@eecs.umich.edu) : -- The source for Draw is part of the standard developer release. Just look around....it's in there (I think its in /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/... but I'm not shure) later jay ******************************************************************* Jason Bright jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp. From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: RE: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <CvKFK7.21L@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 18:04:55 GMT FYI...here are a few of the responses I have received on this topic... Damon F. Cooper Development Centre Consultant Advanced Technology Services Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada 79 Wellington Ave West, Aetna Tower, T-D Centre Toronto, Ontario M5K 1N9 416-864-8548 416-864-3871 Fax damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NEXTMAIL Welcome =============================== From: Curtis_Griffin@NeXT.COM Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:47:01 -0500 To: damonc!damonc Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Damon, Thanks, I'll pass it on and let you know what I hear. Curt =============================== From: Curtis_Griffin@NeXT.COM Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:01:29 -0500 To: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 fyi Begin forwarded message: From: Rick_Jackson (Rick Jackson) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 13:44:56 -0700 To: Curtis_Griffin Subject: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Curtis, Thanks for this info. It's good arming. I've put the challenge to the department to fix this issue once and for all in EOF 2.0. We've always been hit hard due to our minimal support for both DBKit and EOF at the UI level. Rj Begin forwarded message: From: Curtis_Griffin Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:47:28 -0500 To: vnever, jland, flin, rjackson Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Any feedback? Curt ======================================== From: Curtis_Griffin@NeXT.COM Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:12:14 -0500 To: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 fyi Begin forwarded message: Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116) From: Felix Lin <Felix_Lin> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:38:00 -0700 To: Curtis_Griffin Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Cc: vnever, jland, rjackson, eof_dept, jlinder, pvais, ronald_weissman Point regarding UI objects is well-taken--we intend to address this issue in the next release. Realize that the fundamental goal of EOF was to support a robust 3-tier architecture for developing and deploying scalable, enterprise applications. This is a much more complex and costly undertaking than development of UI widgets. Although we don't provide the equivalent of a datawindow object, Powerbuilder doesn't provide: 1. A three-tier architecture: NEXTSTEP enables business objects to be deployed across a range of network resources, providing unmatched flexibility and scalability for complex applications. Most Powerbuilder apps are SLOW, because they only have access to local desktop resources. 2. Low maintenance costs: after a developer builds a CUSTOMER object with NEXTSTEP, any application screen can easily access business methods and data pertaining to customers. As business requirements change, business objects can be modified -- with the changes propagating to all application screens that use those objects. Contrast this with the maintenance burden that Powerbuilder imposes by requiring copies of code to be modified in many screens whenever a business function changes. 3. Reusable Enterprise Objects: By simply changing a mapping between objects and the relational tables used to store data, NEXTSTEP developers can redeploy applications with different underlying database schemas with minimal effort. Unfortunately for Powerbuilder developers, changes to the database schema can require significant redesign and reimplementation of application screens. In light of our 7-figure R&D investment in EOF, we probably should have invested a little more in UI objects that would showcase the underlying capabilities--but decided to remain focused on the infrastructure. This does however put us in a much better position than Powersoft, which has a nifty datawindow--but no robust infrastructure. Begin forwarded message: From: Curtis_Griffin Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:47:28 -0500 To: vnever, jland, flin, rjackson Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Any feedback? Curt ======================================= Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:22:14 -0700 [Author Info Removed] Very nice discourse on a fundamental deficiency, with respect to the Fortune 500 market - a market NeXT desires, in NEXTSTEP/OpenStep. I hope someone at NeXT will listen. Greg Anderson, of Anderson Financial Systems, might have an interest in this as well. Perhaps you can two can discuss the possibilities. ======================================== Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:55:07 -0700 [Author Info Removed] Thanks for taking the time to make your posting. This was a very interesting insight. Personally I am totally ignorant re: PowerBuilder, although I am aware there is demand for PowerBuilder capable people. Maybe there is a third-party already working on something like this......nah! That's too bad. Now that you've pointed out a real deficiency and a solution hopefully some company will get started on it. We don't develop products, but if we did this would be a winner as you pointed out. ========================================= Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 13:43:13 -0400 [Author Info Removed] Damon, Thanks for that description of technical differences, between PowerBuilder and DBKit and EOF especially the DataWindow object. I am developer who has been using DBKit for 2 years. I feel I know the strengths and weaknesses of DBKit. I can't comment on EOF because I have been evaluating it only since the EXPO. As a consultant, we always run into the ? how is this better than PowerBuilder. I can never answer this question because I do not know PowreBuilder. From your commentary, It sounds like this DataWindow object is a very powerrful object. How can I get more information about it? Also, from the way you were describing the DataWIndow object, it sounds like the 4GL environment called Espresso in NS. Espresso also exist as a palette in IB. Once again, thanks for the commentary. We need more people giving us clear distinctions between how objects in each environment make's life easier for developing software for our clients. I am looking forward to learning more about PowerBuilder. take care =========================================== Date: Fri, 02 Sep 1994 09:25:59 -0700 [Author Info Removed] Hi Damon, I enjoyed reading your fascinating article in comp.sys.next.software (or was it advocacy :-). I am the new President of nugi (NeXTSTEP User Groups International), and part of my job is to channel constructive user feedback to NeXT. The hard part, as always, is trying to convince NeXT that what is good for them will improve their bottom line! Anyway, since you seem to care about this issue, I would be willing to work with you to see if we can't get something going here. nugi doesn't have any staff or budget, just goodwill, networking, and a few friends inside of NeXT. But, if you would like pursue this further, I can try to provide you with contacts and access. It seems there are several avenues technically that might be worth pursuing. 1) (the obvious one) Get PowerBuilder to make their Object an EOF Pallete The main difficulties with this are a) can PowerBuilder move their technology into an ObjC environment, rather than having to recreate it from scratch; and b) would they perceive this as undercutting their own main product, or as an additional source of revenue? 2) Get NeXT to add DataWindow technology to EOF themselves The advantage is that they don't need PowerBuilder's cooperation. Plus, something this sophisticated may require changes to EOF. However, they lose the beneifit of PBs technical know-how, experience and mindshare. Plus the fact that NeXT is probably overburdened as it is... 3) Find a 3rd party to clone DataWindow. This is the easiest route politically, and something like it may happen anyway if the first two do not. However, the question is whether anybody else has the technical knowledge - and perhaps access to EOF internals - to pull it off. In addition to the technical question, there is the issue of selling the idea. It's possible someone from NeXT will see your post, and Steve Jobs will jump on the phone and set things up. More likely, though, interested customers (and rabid advocates, like myself:) may need to make the case. I do have access to some people I can make a case to, but first we'd have to create something airtight and credible. Unless you know someone at PowerBuilder, the best bet would be to find some customers who have evaluated PowerBuilder and NeXTSTEP, and chosen one or the other. Then we can go one or the other company and say, "See, if you had bought into the other guys technology, you would have gotten this sale that you lost." That always gets peoples attention! The other side of the coin is evaluating the technical feasibility of the project. Is it as simple as sticking ObjC wrappers around PowerBuilders core engine? Or would it require a complete rewrite of the EOF *and* PowerBuilder code to get them to work well together? Again, I don't know how feasible any of this is. I'm an advocate, not a database programmer. However, if you are interested if following through on this - and nothing happens on its own - let me know. These are the sort of questions I think are important, and that a little judicious networking might enable us to answer. Again, thank you for your interest in helping move the NEXTSTEP Community forward. -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? Date: 3 Sep 1994 19:19:40 GMT Message-ID: <34ai8c$eql@aragorn.unibe.ch> Hi, ever anybody thought about doing Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? How could one get all those curly lines? I know there is the Feynam.app, but having used Diagram! you know what the advantages would be. Thanks, -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FORTRAN Compiler? Date: 3 Sep 1994 19:47:57 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <34ajtd$14r@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <347oru$j2@news.iastate.edu> In article <347oru$j2@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) writes: > victor e garzon writes > > Is there any low cost FORTRAN compiler for NS out there? > > Thanks. > Otherwise, if you are on black, there is the Absoft compiler... The Absoft Fortran compiler is also available for NEXTSTEP/Intel, but not for NEXTSTEP/HP. There is a grass-roots effort to try and get NeXT, Absoft, and HP to do something about this significant problem for some scientific NEXTSTEP users. For more information: Gregg E. Dinse <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP software from Japan (iij-ppp-next0.92n2) Date: 4 Sep 1994 01:50:23 GMT Organization: RGNET Distribution: world Message-ID: <34b94v$m9v@pop0.rain.rg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone figured out on how to install and use iij-ppp-next0.92n2? All the documentation is in Japanese.. Thanks -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 05:11:19 GMT Damon F. Cooper writes > > ...big long explanation of why PowerBuilder is better than > NEXTSTEP/EOF in one way beciase of their "DataWindow" objects > deleted... > I have (thankfully) NOT had the opportunity to work directly with PowerBuilder. However, I was recently exposed to two major projects where this tool is being used. I had become quite familiar with PowerBuilder's "object-orientedness" and it's "DataWindow" object more from a high-level view than a direct technical/hands-on view. From this I derived a couple of conclusions. 1) The companies that are using PowerBuilder (and the much ballyhooed DataWindow) are simply recreated "data screens" tied directly to the underlying database schema. They are, in other words, building "new legacy applications" for themselves (or customers in the case of outside consultants). 2) Most of their designs and application "objects" are strictly "window/screen/UI" based. In other words there is no "business object model" layer. A SEVERE long term limitation. 3) They are not taking the time to "model their enterprise" using object design/object paradigm techniques. Now, let me address a couple of your specific points: > Object technologies promise to speed the time to > realization of corporate applications in the long run > through re-use, but that benefit can be more than offset > if the amount of work to be done building data containers, > lists, manipulators, sorters, handlers and presentation > objects is too great. While the "time to market" value of (long term) object technology investment is an intriguing one, there is another stronger argument, "enterprise object modeling". The time to be spent (at least in NEXTSTEP) is not on objects such as "lists, manipulators, sorters, handlers and presentation objects". In fact much of this exists already, very little needs to be created by the corporate developer. The larger (and frankly more valuable) amount of time needs to be spent is on designing, then building objects that "model the enterprise" (i.e. Customer, Transaction, Product, Service, etc. objects). From my experience so far with NeXT's new EOFramework, I saw nothing in your description of using the "DataWindow" object that strikes me as impossible or even terribly difficult with NEXTSTEP & EOFramework. The reverse is not true however. That is, it IS difficult to create an abstract, object model that is abstracted from both the particular database schema and the current UI design in PowerBuilder. In fact, the "modeling" is inextricably linked to both the database schema (and the SQL code) as well as the current UI design. That is, if I need to add some new field or column in PowerBuilder, I'm in changing some SQL code or some such silliness, and if I change the schema for some reason, I may have to change some DataWindow code. On the NEXTSTEP side of things, you (should be at least) begin by MODELING the BUSINESS/ENTERPRISE in objects. This is apart from database schemas and potential UI designs. These issues are addressed later. Once the model is determined, then using a tool such as EOModeler, you can easily map a particular database schema to the objects (sorry...classes) that you have defined. You may introduce "computed fields" at this point (I'm not sure of that status of stored procedures, though I think this is now supported in EOFramework). Once all of that is done, using InterfaceBuilder, you can easily drag connections to the various UI elements (many for each attribute if desired). If, later the underlying database schema changes, yes, I may have to update my "eomodel", or if the UI (user) requirements change, I will have to update my "nib" files, but, assuming the basic BUSINESS/ENTERPRISE model remains essentially the same, the "object model" does as well. The changes to code are minimal or non-existent, changes schema maps (eomodels) and UI (nibs) are simple. Now, unfortunately many who are doing NEXTSTEP development are still using DBKit, and have not enjoyed the real value of EOFramework, so have not been able to seek the benefits of this "model based" design (DBKit limits the ability to do things this way), still some developers (I hope) still embrace the notion of the "model based design", where the UI is NOT THE OBJECT, it is simply a view into the model. PowerBuilder is (I guess) an excellent tool for rapidly developing corporate applications. Unfortunately, it is used for rapidly developing new legacy applications which do NOT seek to model the enterprise, but instead simply drop some new upholstery on the old systems. -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: em@marcon.de (Evstathios Marinos) Subject: Re: Any Employment agency Apps out there? Message-ID: <1994Sep4.073055.6248@marcon.de> Sender: emarinos@marcon.de (Evstathios Marinos) Organization: MARCON - Evstathios Marinos Consulting ( Karlsruhe, Germany ) References: <CvFvn8.270@softpac.com.au> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 07:30:55 GMT In article <CvFvn8.270@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> writes: \\ I am looking at building a system for an empolyment agency, to scan in \\ resumes, do OCR from fax's received, and drop these into Digital Librarian \\ or some database for searching and matching, plus all the other stuff they \\ do... \\ \\ Am I re-inventing the wheel? Has anyone done this on NEXT? \\ \\ Your construtive comments would be appreciated. \\ \\ Rgds dave t \\ DownUnder Yes, there is an application out there for employment agencies. The name of the system is "Jobs" and it was developed by DART Software GmbH. The company is located in Germany. Please contact Mr. Wilfried Beeck for more information. His E-Mail address is wbeeck@dart.de Best Regards Stathis -- MARCON - Evstathios Marinos Consulting Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78 Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: em@marcon.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <CvLwtJ.Fs@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper References: <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 13:15:18 GMT In article <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: > 2) Most of their designs and application "objects" are strictly > "window/screen/UI" based. In other words there is no "business > object model" layer. A SEVERE long term limitation. No argument. EOF coupled with powerful UI-layer objects are desperately needed, however. > While the "time to market" value of (long term) object technology > investment is an intriguing one, there is another stronger argument, > "enterprise object modeling". The time to be spent (at least in > NEXTSTEP) is not on objects such as "lists, manipulators, sorters, > handlers and presentation objects". In fact much of this exists > already, very little needs to be created by the corporate developer. > The larger (and frankly more valuable) amount of time needs to be > spent is on designing, then building objects that "model the > enterprise" (i.e. Customer, Transaction, Product, Service, etc. > objects). The assumption I made was that the use of EO implies the use of EO Modeling techniques...sorry, perhaps I shouldn't have made that assumption. > From my experience so far with NeXT's new EOFramework, I saw nothing > in your description of using the "DataWindow" object that strikes me > as impossible or even terribly difficult with NEXTSTEP & EOFramework. That's my point; and as the RFP pointed out, companies are contracting this work repeatedly when the problem is the lack of UI level object support in both DBKit and EOF. > PowerBuilder is (I guess) an excellent tool for rapidly developing > corporate applications. Unfortunately, it is used for rapidly > developing new legacy applications which do NOT seek to model the > enterprise, but instead simply drop some new upholstery on the old > systems. Again, I was NOT arguing the merits of PB vs NS Developer. The choice is clear. However, NeXT needs to understand WHY customers are going with PowerBuilder...you can call these customers short-sighted and any other number of names you like, but the point is mute. NeXT has serious deficiencies in thier UI-level support in both DBKit and EO. --- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NEXTMAIL Welcome -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: eText--where? Date: 4 Sep 1994 19:30:19 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> I've lost Rohit Khare's eText application, and I'd like to grab the sources. At which FTP site does it reside? ...................................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Scanner Solution Sought Message-ID: <CvMJAo.F0E@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 21:20:48 GMT Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation. 1) Scan in a form. 2) Create Editable fields on the form with some kind of software on my NeXT Station. 3) Be able to call up the form and fill in the editable fields with pertinant data. 4) Print the form on the Laser Printer. I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software combination will allow me to do this. I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all. Thanks, David Bradford P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it.
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eText--where? Date: 4 Sep 1994 23:55:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <34dmov$f6g@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes: >> I've lost Rohit Khare's eText application, and I'd like to grab the sources. >> >> At which FTP site does it reside? >> >> ...................................kris etext.caltech.edu ??? -- _________________________________________________________________________ Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: CryptorBundle Where? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 5 Sep 1994 04:25:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <34e6k3$rbf@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <1994Aug26.125917.25777@cc.usu.edu> <1994Aug29.171134.1354@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Thomas Funke (thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de) wrote: (in his tag file) : Q. How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb? : A. You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb : object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, : so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message. Killer tag (lol!!) Thomas! :-)) -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow) Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought Message-ID: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CvMJAo.F0E@ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 04:20:13 GMT David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation. : 1) Scan in a form. : 2) Create Editable fields on the form : with some kind of software on my NeXT Station. : 3) Be able to call up the form and fill in : the editable fields with pertinant data. : 4) Print the form on the Laser Printer. : I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software : combination will allow me to do this. : I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all. : Thanks, David Bradford : P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it. What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD which is now defunct. Michael McNabb wrote PowerScan, and he occasionally reads this bulletin board. He may be able to sell you a copy. Once you are able to scan and store tiff's, you can import the tiff into FrameMaker and create text fields over the tiff as a background. I recommend compressing the tiff and importing it by reference into Frame. It works fine. I've done it. The combination I recommended is good for color (but at a very reasonable price). the Umax monochrome scanner may work, but I haven't tried it. Quite a few scanners were sold by HSD so you might be able to pick one up used. There is also an old version of the scanner software called scanX, but it is much inferior to PowerScan. Good luck, George Crow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Any Employment agency Apps out there? Message-ID: <CvnFty.6wC@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <CvFvn8.270@softpac.com.au> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:03:33 GMT In article <CvFvn8.270@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> writes: > I am looking at building a system for an empolyment agency, to scan in > resumes, do OCR from fax's received, and drop these into Digital Librarian > or some database for searching and matching, plus all the other stuff they > do... > > Am I re-inventing the wheel? Has anyone done this on NEXT? > > Your construtive comments would be appreciated. > Hi, Yes, you are reinventing the wheel. We already supply a product which does these things for the HeadHunters marketplace in the UK and Hong Kong. Our product is not targeted at General Employment Agencies but may well be suitable. -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc 351 London Road Phone: 0702 551010 Hadleigh Intl: +44 702 551010 Essex. SS7 2BT Fax: +44 702 551515 England Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk United Kingdom (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Pascal? Message-ID: <1994Sep5.093307.17907@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <347pcs$sf9@search01.news.aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:33:07 GMT In article <347pcs$sf9@search01.news.aol.com> mudog@aol.com (MuDog) writes: > Does anyone know if there's a Pascal compiler for NEXTSTEP? If so, where > can I find it? > > Thanks, > Josh Neal > mudog@aol.com p2c pascal to C translator. It used to be on the Big Green CD. Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PNI and Mail/News setup problems Date: 5 Sep 1994 07:59:01 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409051258.AA07454@deis05.cineca.it> Hi. In these days I'm switching from a UUCP newsfeed to a SLIP internet provider. I've already installed the TranSys PNI and tested the SLIP connection from my NeXT cube running NS 3.2 and the internet provider. It just works. Now I'm going to configure Mail and News. 1. Mail Incoming mail is redirected to a ``mail host'', say modena.nettuno.it, which is different from my host, say cube.nettuno.it. My net provider told me that I can use either a POP client or sendmail to send/retrieve mail. I've grabbed PopOver from the archives and looked at it. It seems to me that it can retrieve mail messages from the host but not forward them. What I am missing ? Should I use a command line POP client ? If anyone recommending sendmail instead of POP has written a sendmail.cf file for a similar setup (which, I think, should be quite common these days) I'd like to see it. 2. News To save on phone bill I whish to get news in batches with INN. Has anyone set it up on NEXTSTEP? Any comments/suggestions are welcome. Regards, -Arrigo Benedetti -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: University of Bologna benedett@deis05.cineca.it Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PNI and Mail/News setup problems Date: 5 Sep 1994 08:06:31 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409051300.AA07478@deis05.cineca.it> Hi. In these days I'm switching from a UUCP newsfeed to a SLIP internet provider. I've already installed the TranSys PNI and tested the SLIP connection from my NeXT cube running NS 3.2 and the internet provider. It just works. Now I'm going to configure Mail and News. 1. Mail Incoming mail is redirected to a ``mail host'', say modena.nettuno.it, which is different from my host, say cube.nettuno.it. My net provider told me that I can use either a POP client or sendmail to send/retrieve mail. I've grabbed PopOver from the archives and looked at it. It seems to me that it can retrieve mail messages from the host but not forward them. What I am missing ? Should I use a command line POP client ? If anyone recommending sendmail instead of POP has written a sendmail.cf file for a similar setup (which, I think, should be quite common these days) I'd like to see it. 2. News To save on phone bill I whish to get news in batches with INN. Has anyone set it up on NEXTSTEP? Any comments/suggestions are welcome. Regards, -Arrigo Benedetti -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail: University of Bologna benedett@deis05.cineca.it Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? Message-ID: <Cvnupn.4ts@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <34ai8c$eql@aragorn.unibe.ch> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:24:59 GMT In article <34ai8c$eql@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) writes: |Hi, | |ever anybody thought about doing Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? | Check out DiagramFeynman on cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/sources/graphics/DiagramFeynman.README /pub/next/sources/graphics/DiagramFeynman.tar.Z a bunch of pallettes for what you want. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Maple for NS/I? Date: 5 Sep 1994 14:14:04 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <34f93c$tk@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Hi, Does any one know if Maple for NS/I released? And how to contact with the vendor? Thanks! TC Huang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: open a new tn3270 Terminal window from command line Message-ID: <Cvnw0D.69q@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:53:00 GMT I'm using Terminal to access a mainframe with tn3270 and would like to cut down the number of steps I have to do to start up. I wrote a small script to open the new window, and would like to have the command 'tn3270 vm1' executed in the new window. Here's the scrtipt: #!/bin/csh setenv TN3270HOST=VM1 open -a Terminal ~/Library/Terminal/80by43.term setenv TN3270HOST Since Terminal runs the .login script, I thought this would do, but it doesn't. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this? login: # # This file gets executed once at login or window startup. # set noglob; eval `tset -Q -s`; unset noglob set term=$TERM stty decctlq intr "^C" erase "^?" kill "^U" stty -tabs cd #if (${?TN3270HOST}) tn3270 $TN3270HOST -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Maple for NS/I? Date: 5 Sep 1994 16:14:31 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <34fg57$acb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <34f93c$tk@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw wrote: : Does any one know if Maple for NS/I released? And how to contact with the : vendor? Yes, it's finally there! But it's still just Maple V Release 2, whereas Release 3 is available for most other platforms since some months. Last time I asked, I was told that Rel.3 for NS (Intel and Moto) should be finished mid/end September, so there's hope ;-) Also, Maple for NS/HP is not yet decided about (well, it was late July then ;-), so all of us waiting for that should perhaps give a loud yell to Maplesoft! Their support address is support@maplesoft.on.ca, I suppose there's also info@maplesoft.on.ca. Perhaps try one of these. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought Date: 5 Sep 1994 17:00:10 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <34fiqq$fah@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> In article <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow) writes: > David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote: > : Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation. > > : 1) Scan in a form. > > : 2) Create Editable fields on the form > : with some kind of software on my NeXT Station. > > : 3) Be able to call up the form and fill in > : the editable fields with pertinant data. > > : 4) Print the form on the Laser Printer. > > : I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software > : combination will allow me to do this. > > : I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all. > > : Thanks, David Bradford > > : P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it. > > What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of > PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD > which is now defunct. > > Michael McNabb wrote PowerScan, and he occasionally reads this bulletin > board. He may be able to sell you a copy. > > Once you are able to scan and store tiff's, you can import the tiff into > FrameMaker and create text fields over the tiff as a background. I > recommend compressing the tiff and importing it by reference into > Frame. It works fine. I've done it. > > The combination I recommended is good for color (but at a very reasonable > price). the Umax monochrome scanner may work, but I haven't tried it. > > Quite a few scanners were sold by HSD so you might be able to pick one up > used. There is also an old version of the scanner software called scanX, > but it is much inferior to PowerScan. > > Good luck, > > George Crow Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release calling for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive scanning package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with support for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight. As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest marks, by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its low price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a decent price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the "best of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll do that one as well) We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the Umax (or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be "competitive" :-)) Steve Sarich Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation steve@talus.com (713) 578-1434 (We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no matter what SJ says :-))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow) Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought Message-ID: <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> <34fiqq$fah@blkbox.blkbox.COM> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 19:37:56 GMT : Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release calling : for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask : where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive scanning : package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with support : for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press : release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight. : As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest marks, : by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its low : price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a decent : price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's : interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the "best : of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll do : that one as well) : We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the Umax : (or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be : "competitive" :-)) : Steve Sarich : Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation : steve@talus.com : (713) 578-1434 : (We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no matter : what SJ says :-)) Your software sounds great. Does it run on black hardware?
From: mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with NewsGrazer Date: 5 Sep 1994 20:09:37 GMT Organization: Phoenix Data Systems, Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34ftu1$6v1@dolphin.phoenix.net> I just now started experiencing a problem running NewsGrazer 72.3 on NeXTSTATION mono, running NS 3.0. Periodically, the program blows away with no warning or message. It has happened twice now within the last 15 min. Have been using this same version for many weeks with no problem. Any ideas or clues will be appriciated, thank you, -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital mwauch@phoenix.phoenix.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eText--where? Date: 5 Sep 1994 20:17:14 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <34fuca$qm5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Kristopher Jon Magnusson writes > I've lost Rohit Khare's eText application, and I'd like to grab the sources. > > At which FTP site does it reside? > > ...................................kris Yes, the site is ftp.etext.caltech.edu. However, I would suggest waiting for a couple of days. PR2 turned out to have some serious bugs, and I don't believe source was avaialable for PR1. Rohit will be back in town tomorrow, so hopefullly a functional version will be available in a week or so. :-) -- Ernie P. eText Poet Laureate -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? Date: 5 Sep 1994 20:18:38 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <34fueu$qnc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <Cvnupn.4ts@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Michael Friendly writes > In article <34ai8c$eql@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz > Willers) writes: > |Hi, > | > |ever anybody thought about doing Feynman diagrams with Diagram! ? > | > Check out DiagramFeynman on cs.orst.edu: > /pub/next/sources/graphics/DiagramFeynman.README > /pub/next/sources/graphics/DiagramFeynman.tar.Z > > a bunch of pallettes for what you want. Note that these are from Diagram 1. At least, they are if those are the ones I wrote way back when. :-) If you decide to clean them up and reformat them for Diagram2, let me know... -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: vlainer@keyst.tuwien.ac.at (Volker Lainer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: postscript-file including Japanese fonts Date: 5 Sep 1994 20:26:17 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <34fut9$m6c@news.tuwien.ac.at> We use a NeXT with NeXTSTEP V3.2J. We have got jdvi2kps and dvi2ps (Japanese version). We can generate postscript-files that correctly refer to the Japanese display-postscript-fonts installed in our NeXT. This works fine on our local 300dpi-printer. However, we would like to print several thousand pages (a special Japanese-English compound dictionary) on another postscript-printer. This other printer is very fast and has much higher resolution, but cannot be connected to our local network and has no Japanese fonts. So we would like to produce a postscript-file containing the complete Japanese fonts used in the text of this file. We believe this should be possible since the NeXT contains those Japanese fonts. Instead of just referring to the fonts, is there any possibility to include the postscript-fonts themselves into the postscript-file? We do not want to use the 24dot fonts nor the DNP fonts also available for jTeX (We are using jlatex - ASCII version V1.7/TeX C Version 2.99). The reason is that the latter seem to still use the pre-1990 JIS codes. Additionally, the quality of the NeXT-fonts is much better. If you could give us a hint on how we could achieve this, we would be very obliged. Please send your reply to vlainer@keyst.tuwien.ac.at Thank you very much in advance. Volker Lainer, Technical University of Vienna
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eText--where? Date: 5 Sep 1994 23:19:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <34g915$kea@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <34fuca$qm5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes: >Kristopher Jon Magnusson writes >> I've lost Rohit Khare's eText application, and I'd like to grab the >sources. >> >> At which FTP site does it reside? >> >> ...................................kris >Yes, the site is ftp.etext.caltech.edu. However, I would suggest >waiting for a couple of days. PR2 turned out to have some serious >bugs, and I don't believe source was avaialable for PR1. Rohit will be >back in town tomorrow, so hopefullly a functional version will be >available in a week or so. :-) Let me say that, despite the bugs, eText is an AMAZING app - the first look at The Document Processor Of The Future (said in stentorian imperial voice). I've been using PR2 to layout and format very complex home pages for a new WWW-based humor magaizne, and boy does it speed up the HTML process! -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Smalltalk for NeXT Message-ID: <CvoK63.207@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <33s82k$n9l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <CvGH68.IAB@cunews.carleton.ca> <rburnsCvIKBp.9KI@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 23:34:50 GMT Randall J. Burns (rburns@netcom.com) wrote: : In article <CvGH68.IAB@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: : I've heard that Smalltalk is significantly faster to develop object : oriented applications in than Objective C. Would anyone care to comment : on this? Smalltalk has a much lower learning curve than ObjC. However, a programmer with some experience in ObjC would probably do as well (time-wise) as a Smalltalker. : >You can still get VisualWorks 1 for NeXTSTEP, but for black only. : I wish this were available for Intel. I spoke to ParcPlace a couple of months ago, and they had no interest in VW1 for NS/Intel mainly because VW2 was on the way. They showed no interest in having VW2 ported to any version of NeXTSTEP. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Stay Alive. Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | Sixty-Five Grand. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Feed the hole." csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | -Jack Grimaldi, Romeo is Bleeding
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eText--where? Date: 6 Sep 1994 00:34:17 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <34gde9$gio@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <34d78b$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <34fuca$qm5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <34g915$kea@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <34g915$kea@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: >Let me say that, despite the bugs, eText is an AMAZING app - the first look at >The Document Processor Of The Future (said in stentorian imperial voice). I've >been using PR2 to layout and format very complex home pages for a new WWW-based >humor magaizne, and boy does it speed up the HTML process! I'm impressed with eText, too, but the bugs are a problem. More often than not I save a file, and when I reopen it everything is gone. But when I look at the file/directory that eText created, everything is there after all. Weird. Anyway, I'm not complaining---the app has a lot of promise and I look forward to the next release. -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 17:45:01 EDT From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <94248.17450134II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: II emulators -- zaniWok? a2? Diamond? I seem to have lost track of any/all of the Apple II emulator projects... I was following mailing-list messages for zaniWok, but haven't heard anything lately... If anyone can fill me in on any of the projects, I'd appreciate it (especially mailing-list information and current source locations)... Thanks! - John... P.S. Don Yacktman -- you've got to be out there somewhere!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wagner@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Subject: 3.3 Message-ID: <1994Sep6.064426.18212@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 06:44:26 GMT Well, Hi, I've got that little problem. I am desperately looking for any info about NS/I 3.3. Any idea where I can find some bits about it? I have absolutely nothing about that new release, besides that it is scheduled for fall.. nextanswers does not have anything.. thanks a lot simon -- TOS : 'To boldly go, where no man has gone before' TNG : 'To baldly go, where no man has gone before'
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: II emulators -- zaniWok? a2? Diamond? Date: 6 Sep 1994 07:39:27 GMT Message-ID: <34h6bf$p3d@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <94248.17450134II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Reply-To: Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Distribution: world John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes ) I seem to have lost track of any/all of the Apple II emulator ) projects... ) I was following mailing-list messages for zaniWok, but haven't heard ) anything lately... If anyone can fill me in on any of the projects, I'd ) appreciate it (especially mailing-list information and current source ) locations)... ) ) P.S. Don Yacktman -- you've got to be out there somewhere! Yes, I'm out here. :-) Well, things haven't changed much lately, and that's the problem... The ftp site is still: ftp://ftp.et.byu.edu/pub/apple2 And the mailing list for zaniWok (a //e emulator) is still na2sig@byu.edu (na2sig-request to get on or off the list). There has been no traffic on the list for quite some time, but it does still exist. There's been no traffic because work on the emulator has stalled--Mat Hostetter, the guy who's been doing most of the work on zaniWok has been very busy I presume. I have a "beta" Mat sent me of a rewritten core for zaniWok that works well fat and is much better, but it is incomplete and still can't do disk or graphics modes. Hopefully he will have time to finish it up or bring it to the point that it can be handed off to someone who can finish it off. And don't ask me for a copy of the latest; I'm not at liberty to distribute it until Mat says I can. Hopefully he can respond with further info for those who are interested... Once that newer core is completed, though, there's no reason why other interested folks couldn't jump in and start writing peripheral cards for it. The API to the emulator core _is_ well defined and I think that much is pretty stable already...it was posted to na2sig a few months ago if I recall correctly. -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: upgrading adobe illustrator Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 11:07 MDZ Organization: Ruhr-Uni-Bochum Distribution: world Message-ID: <19940906110717.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I own the Adobe Illustrator (academic version) for black hardware and now would like to upgrade to white hardware (or to virtuoso if possible). Is there some possibility out there?
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep6.002857.7676@tdkt.mn.org> Organization: The Dark Knight's Table BBS: Free public access news/email Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 00:28:57 GMT References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software This is very good analysis of PB. I don't know anything about Next but I like the PB analysis. Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: shawn@monitor.com Subject: Re: Smalltalk for NeXT Message-ID: <CvpHKB.1pu@monitor.com> Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick) Organization: Monitor Company / IE References: <CvoK63.207@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:36:11 GMT Chris Saldanha writes >Smalltalk has a much lower learning curve than ObjC. However, a programmer >with some experience in ObjC would probably do as well (time-wise) as a >Smalltalker. > >I spoke to ParcPlace a couple of months ago, and they had no interest in >VW1 for NS/Intel mainly because VW2 was on the way. They showed no interest >in having VW2 ported to any version of NeXTSTEP. i don't know if i'd say that "ParcPlace VisualWorks for NeXTSTEP has an easier learning curve than Objective-C on NeXTSTEP" perhaps ST has a better learning curve than Obj-C, but the PP object hierarchies are nom-trivial to figure out. IMHO, they're about the same if you include all the ancillary stuff in there. shawn -- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090
From: pcallies@csc.com (Peter Callies) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 07:58:58 UNDEFINED Organization: CSC Consulting Message-ID: <pcallies.147.0026D7FF@csc.com> References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> In article <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: >Damon F. Cooper writes >> >> ...big long explanation of why PowerBuilder is better than >> NEXTSTEP/EOF in one way beciase of their "DataWindow" objects >> deleted... >> > ...big long explanation of why NEXTSTEP/EOF is better than > PowerBuilder... > I agree with your points about modeling the business being the most important part of development. However, for those of us working with Fortune 500 companies that sometimes have difficulties making commitments to a technology or methodology, it is difficult (at best) if not impossible (at worst) to convince them to spend the necessary time (and don't tell me it doesn't take a lot of time to accurately model a large business) modeling. Without a high-level managerial commitment, it's difficult to get mid-level management support--they want to see tangible, usable, results quickly because it's their butts on the line. I wish this wasn't the case, but I feel that it is. Does anyone have an answer????? -Pete ******************************************************************* * Peter Callies * CSC Consulting * Minneapolis, MN, USA * Internet: pcallies@csc.com Compuserve: 75040,2164 * All views expressed are my own unless expressly stated otherwise. *******************************************************************
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Looking for an NS/i binary for octave-1.0 Date: 6 Sep 1994 14:28:21 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <34hua5$s9l@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I was wondering if some kind kind soul using octave-1.0 on NS/i could place a copy of the executable and whatever else is needed on an ftp site. I tried to compile it myself but so far I haven't been able to even get libg++ 6.0 to compile. Thanks John Stanhope
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought Date: 6 Sep 1994 14:56:39 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <34hvv7$kk2@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com> In article <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow) writes: > > : Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release calling > : for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask > : where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive scanning > : package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with support > : for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press > : release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight. > > : As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest marks, > : by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its low > : price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a decent > : price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's > : interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the "best > : of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll do > : that one as well) > > : We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the Umax > : (or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be > : "competitive" :-)) > > : Steve Sarich > : Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation > : steve@talus.com > : (713) 578-1434 > : (We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no matter > : what SJ says :-)) > > Your software sounds great. Does it run on black hardware? Yes...runs on both black and white. It's not available for HP as yet. Steve Sarich Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation steve@talus.com
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Potentially serious Impress bug Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:12:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <34i7t6$7fl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Because I haven't seen anything from OTI about this problem, I'm posting it in hopes of saving Impress users some grief. The bottom line: don't use Impress' automated bug/submission filing feature. Impress, like many NS apps, provides a semi-automated means of filing bug/suggestion reports via email. Unlike most NS apps, Impress generates a bogus mail header: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:56:25 -0700 From: Art Isbell <art> To: impress@object.com Subject: Impress:Version 1.0.1 : Script Reply-To: art@cubicsol.com Cc: art Name: Art Isbell Organization: Cubic Solutions Address: 315 Moon Meadow Lane Address2: City: Felton State: CA Zip: 95018-9442 Country: U.S.A. Phone: 408 335 1154 Fax: 408 335 2515 Email: art@cubicsol.com Licenseinfo: <CUBIC> <106474> <10> <2> <B76FA6BD> <1> <10/94> Processor: MC68040 Processorspeed: 25 Memorysize: 40 Software: 3.2 Lightning5S App: Impress v. Version 1.0.1 Note line 5. Apparently, a mail header field beginning with a ':' can shut down the mail queue on some mail delivery systems :-( Three days after I filed my first Impress bug report, I started receiving a series of mail messages like: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 0:00:18 PDT From: "scruz.ucsc.edu scruz.ucsc.edu mmdf mail system" <mmdf@scruz.ucsc.edu> Sender: mmdf@scruz.ucsc.edu Subject: Waiting mail (msg.aa13264) To: art@cubicsol.com After 3 days (60 hours), your message has not yet been fully delivered. Attempts to deliver the message will continue for 5 more days. No further action is required by you. Delivery attempts are still pending for the following address(es): impress@object.com (host: cats.ucsc.edu) (queue: badhosts) Problems usually are due to service interruptions at the receiving machine. Less often, they are caused by the communication system. Note the irony that a bug report submission fails due to a bug :-( This bug is particularly onerous because it can shut down an entire mail queue, not just mail that the Impress user sent. My mail provider manually edited the Impress mail header to start up the queue again, but I had filed several bug reports before the problem was discovered, so several queue stoppages occurred with lots of "Waiting mail" messages being sent to many different users on the system :-( Needless to say, my mail provider isn't impressed (pun intended :-) by Impress. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: upgrading adobe illustrator Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:43:17 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <34i9nl$80b@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <19940906110717.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> In article <19940906110717.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) writes: > I own the Adobe Illustrator (academic version) for black hardware and > now would like to upgrade to white hardware (or to virtuoso if possible). > Is there some possibility out there? Illustrator is no longer supported on NextStep. You can try Virtuoso2, or Stone Design's Create or a third vendor's drawing app whose name I have forgotten. The Stone Design product will allow you to do a few things that Virtuoso2 won't (partially transparent colors - setting the alpha bit), but NextStep Virtuoso2 is compatible with the Mac version (Freehand?). -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: upgrading adobe illustrator Date: 6 Sep 1994 13:57:13 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <34iahp$1h8@anshar.shadow.net> References: <19940906110717.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Stefan Boehringer (Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) wrote: : I own the Adobe Illustrator (academic version) for black hardware and : now would like to upgrade to white hardware (or to virtuoso if possible). : Is there some possibility out there? Illustrator is dead and gone, but you can get Stone Design Create for $99 academic. Virtuoso is much more expensive (~$300 academic).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Re: 3.3 Message-ID: <Cvq0p5.8tL@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis References: <1994Sep6.064426.18212@ifi.unizh.ch> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:29:28 GMT In article <1994Sep6.064426.18212@ifi.unizh.ch> wagner@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) writes: > I've got that little problem. I am desperately looking for any info about > NS/I 3.3. Any idea where I can find some bits about it? I have absolutely From something I picked up from NeXT at NEXTSTEP Expo. I may no claims to the accuracy of NeXT's marketing info. Todd heberlei@cs ------- Notes on NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Summary: Release 3.3 focuses on enhancements for support of large-scale NEXTSTEP environments - improved scalability, robustness, and interoperability. There should be no changes to the developers suite. Highlights: Robustness - It doesn't crash as much. Scalability - Easier support of tens of thousands of nodes & users. Performance - BSD 4.4 networking and Mach 3.0 increase performance. Open Standards - NeXTmail supports MIME Breakdown of new features and benefits: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Networking NetInfo - Support 10,000+ nodes across WANs, integrated DNS support. ----------------------- UserManager - Bulk add/delete, API to customize UserManager. ----------------------- NetInfoManager - Better GUI, searching, remote server management. ----------------------- SimpleNetworkStarter - Tool to set up small networks, SNMP support. ----------------------- Networking Commands - UNIX-like command line tools for us UNIX weenies. ----------------------- BSD 4.4 Networking - performance tuning support, especially for large networks. IP Multi-Cast ------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS MACH 3.0 Core components of MACH 3.0 for improved robustness and performance, especially under heavy load. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail MIME Support - ----------------------- Mail Size Management - More information quickly available such as number read, deleted, size of each message, number of new messages. ----------------------- Selective & Summary Printing - print summary of all mail or selected set of mail. ----------------------- Enhanced Searching - Search for keywords, etc. ----------------------- Save & Restore Drafts - finish a partial mail message later. ----------------------- Outgoing Message Archive - archive all or selected outgoing mail. ----------------------- In-line Address Completion - press Esc to finish address ----------------------- Hierarchical Mailboxes - ----------------------- User Defined Fields - Add labels such as "priority:" to header. ----------------------- New Productivity Tools - [marketing propaganda] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel PCMCIA - ----------------------- Enablement ISA Plug & Play - ----------------------- PCI Plug and Play - ----------------------- Advanced Power Management - for laptop people ----------------------- 720K floppy - [Are we moving backwards?] ----------------------- More Drivers - ----------------------- 8-bit color ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Installation Network Install - Install NEXTSTEP through NFS w/o & Upgrades Requiring a CD-ROM drive ----------------------- Network Bulk Upgrade - Propogate upgrades over a network [hose your network in an instant] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Learning NEXTSTEP Quick Start - ----------------------- Tools Power Tips & Documentation Roadmap ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internation- Global Software - bulk customization of keyboards, alization paper sizes, time zones, etc ----------------------- International Installation -
From: nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: II emulators -- zaniWok? a2? Diamond? Date: 6 Sep 1994 11:46:01 -0500 Organization: Kansas State University Message-ID: <34i6c9$c66@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> References: <34h6bf$p3d@bones.et.byu.edu> don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: >still exist. There's been no traffic because work on the emulator >has stalled--Mat Hostetter, the guy who's been doing most of the >work on zaniWok has been very busy I presume. >disk or graphics modes. Hopefully he will have time to finish it up >or bring it to the point that it can be handed off to someone who can >finish it off. And don't ask me for a copy of the latest; I'm not >at liberty to distribute it until Mat says I can. Hopefully he can >respond with further info for those who are interested... Well, I just saw Mat. He is currently moving to his job at ARDI working on the release of Executor 2.0. He won't have Internet access until at earliest the end of this week. Neal Howland nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Source for HTML viewer program? Date: 6 Sep 1994 20:44:25 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <34ikb9$i0n@gateway.wiltel.com> Keywords: HTML HTMD Viewer source next Is there any programs (source included) out there that are able to read HTML documents? mike_zemina@wiltel.com
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought Date: 6 Sep 1994 21:21:41 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <34imh5$l18@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> In article <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow) writes: > What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of > PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD > which is now defunct. PowerScan is now sold by Metrosoft. They offered the latest upgrade to HSD customers at a very low price, which was great. I believe HSD has risen again as well? -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 [Mach 3.0!?!] Date: 7 Sep 1994 00:12:05 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <34j0gl$pee@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <Cvq0p5.8tL@ucdavis.edu> Louis Todd Heberlein writes > From something I picked up from NeXT at NEXTSTEP Expo. I may no > claims to the accuracy of NeXT's marketing info. Thanks for posting this! I read the dev conference notes on this topic, but hadn't seen some of this information. > OS MACH 3.0 Core components of MACH 3.0 for > improved robustness and performance, > especially under heavy load. Yow! Where did this come from? From everything I had heard previous, NeXT (and most other people) were avoiding Mach 3.0 becuase it had _worse_ robustness and performance than Mach 2.0/2.5. The first question is whether they replaced their Mach core with 3.0 instead of 2.5. If so, how did they manage to do it in a way that improves performance? I heard IBM had to soup it up quite a bit to give it acceptable performance for an OO message passing environment. If they didn't replace the core, that presumably means they pulled in pieces of 3.0 (just like they did in 2.5). However, I thought 3.0 meant a smaller kernel, with services moved from inside the kernel to external services. Perhaps NeXT ripped stuff out of 2.5 by brute force and added the equivalent 3.0 servers? The only thing I remember being interesting about 3.0 were external pagers, which could contribute to improved performance under a heavy load. Any other guesses? The second question, if they've indeed replaced their core with Mach 3.0, is whether this brings them any closer IBM's work on Mach 3.0 for Workplace OS. I still think that IBM should ditch Taligent (sorry, Larry :-) and adopt OpenStep. A merger of 'native' NeXTSTEP with WorkPlace OS would be even better, in some ways. Of course, if the OS/Windows deal really comes through (still hard to believe), this may become moot. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Problem with NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CvqDq7.DA0@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <34ftu1$6v1@dolphin.phoenix.net> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 23:10:53 GMT In article <34ftu1$6v1@dolphin.phoenix.net> mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope) writes: > I just now started experiencing a problem running NewsGrazer 72.3 on > NeXTSTATION mono, running NS 3.0. Periodically, the program blows away > with no warning or message. It has happened twice now within the last 15 > min. Have been using this same version for many weeks with no problem. > > Any ideas or clues will be appriciated, thank you, One of two things, I'd guess. Either a news article with a trash header, or you're trying to "catch up" while NG is trying to sort a group with a lot of headers. -- personal opinions
From: gvchedda@aol.com (GV CheddA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SGI on the NExT cube? Date: 6 Sep 1994 22:24:09 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <34j889$rnn@search01.news.aol.com> Does anyone know if you can run SGI software like SoftImage and Wavefront on the a NExT cube? GV
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@avus (Operator) Subject: PhysicsWorld running on 3.2 Organization: /etc/organization Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 00:37:57 GMT Message-ID: <CvqHrA.Kz1@crash.cts.com> Keywords: Physics Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem) I recently got a copy of PhysicsWorld for black hardware, and have been trying to run it under 3.2. It open the main windows and looks like its running but then dumps right out. Under console the message says bus error. I am running a 33 turbo cube, and am lost. Any help would be appreciated
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone remember Archetype ? Date: 6 Sep 1994 19:36:12 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <34igbc$33b@balu.ixpoint.de> Hello, back from a time journey through our 4-years NEXTSTEP-Archive where I have seen a lot of not seen NEXTSTEP-Application (Rember Arts&Letters announcement in late 91 ?) there is one interesting point left: Anybody knows about what has happened to ArcheType and their Document Engine? -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MorningStar PPP Date: 6 Sep 1994 22:19:06 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <34jiga$14l@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <341v6h$5fj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <CvGKzB.AA@nexus1.oche.de> I just read this in the last 30 days, but my news server's expired it. HOW do you get morningstar PPP for less than $795? Thanks. -- Sean T. Lamont, Abstract Software | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts NEXTSTEP development, TCP/IP consulting | Professional collections for NEXTSTEP lamont@abstractsoft.com | http://www.abstractsoft.com
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A question about NeXTMail Date: 7 Sep 1994 08:21:09 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <34jt5l$t06@news.cerf.net> If one mouse clicks on GET NEW MAIL in NeXTmail Utilities, the NeXTmail.app looks in the mail spool for any mail that might have recently been brought into the spool by cron sending the modem out to fetch it from the mail server (in my case UCSD). But has someone written a utility which interfaces with the NeXTmail.app that upon when the user mouse clicks on GET NEW MAIL in NeXTmail.app two things happen: 1. NeXTmail.app looks in the mail spool 2. The utility sends the modem out to fetch mail from the mail server. If you know the answer to this or you know how to create this please respond. Thank you Murshid
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Date: 7 Sep 1994 11:10:07 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <34k72f$1jh@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Sep6.064426.18212@ifi.unizh.ch> And unless NeXT comes to their senses: HIDEOUSLY UGLY icons on the m68k version--and a lot of really nice artwork going away, replaced with NOTHING. (This must be part of their new strategy to attract Windoze users.) Yuck. -=EPS=- -- Of course, not having a Developer Release doesn't help either...
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTML-Editor 0.5 for Nextstep Date: 7 Sep 1994 13:19:38 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <34kelb$bt4@solaris.cc.vt.edu> A new version of HTML-Editor for Nextstep is now available. I have made many improvements. Release 0.5 is available from: ftp://borg.lib.vt.edu/pub/next/HTML-Editor0.5.FAT.app.compressed or from my home page: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/jpowell.html Feedback, suggestions and offers to fix problems welcome. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.ppp Subject: PPP-2.1.2 for NS 3.2 (white/black/gray) Date: 7 Sep 1994 18:05:00 GMT Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE Distribution: world Message-ID: <34kvcc$m6h@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi. We've recently finished a port of Miron Cuperman's ppp-0.3 to NextStep 3.2 and have been intensively testing it on multiple platforms. We're pretty happy with the way it works and want to turn a larger group of testers loose on this code. Please contact me (directly) for information about getting it; my email address is <philipp@res.enst.fr> By the way, you may have heard news of another port of ppp-2.1.2 to NextStep. This is the port of my venerable collegue Stephen Perkins (he wrote his from scratch, and I took the easy way out and hacked Miron's). I don't know what the state of his code is, but if you are already testing his, *these are not the same sources*. Thanks for your interest, -Philip
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 7 Sep 1994 17:31:18 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <34lbf6$34r@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> References: <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> <CvLwtJ.Fs@damonc.tor.hookup.net> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I can't agree more with this article. NeXT provides a very nice development platform but that remains crude and for which the learning curve is very long unless you were born a geek and absorbed UNIX by the bowl. There is nothing wrong with the previously described class of individuals except that there are the minority (and of course proud of it). For real applications and REAL speed of development, something like Powersoft tools should be available on the NeXT, even if this means that NeXT should support or choose among some DB providers outthere. Yes, this is a call for a REAL DBkit pallette with a REAL DB oriented application OO Framework. JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu PS: Ok, ok... not coincidently, I am doing a PhD on OO Framework dev.
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 7 Sep 1994 17:17:06 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I can't agree more with this article. NeXT provides a very nice development platform but that remains crude and for which the#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programming Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!uni-paderborn.de!urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!damonc.tor.hookup.net!root From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 (Repost) Message-ID: <Cvt20F.7v@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Reply-To: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:50:39 GMT Lines: 153 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:12657 comp.sys.next.advocacy:18888 A repost was requested...here it is... ========================================== Having worked with Powersoft's "PowerBuilder" GUI 4GL product in corporate environments since it's early beta release almost 4 yrs ago, and now NEXTSTEP for about a year, I have come to the conclusion that there are some critical pieces missing from the NEXTSTEP development environment, even with EOF that NeXT needs to understand. Fortune 500 companies (such as the one I work for) have jumped on the PowerBuilder bandwagon by the truckload for their mission-critical application development for 2 fundamental reasons: 1) To harness the power of Powersoft's "DataWindow" object, available in NO other product (it's actually patented). 2) To relieve themselves of writing raw C/C++ MS-Windows SDK code in order to deliver GUI-based corporate database applications. The second reason above is addressed in NEXTSTEP with Objective-C. Yes, it's based on C, but the number of language extensions to get to Objective-C are minimal. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? The problem is the first reason. NEXTSTEP Developer, for all it's excellence, does not have any but the simplest (ie. DB/EOTableView) database display functionalities of Powersoft's DataWindow. And it IS a problem for Fortune 500 companies. Businesses depends on information, but business is made up of data. The question is: how do we best construct information from corporate data so that we can use it as a competitive weapon? Object technologies promise to speed the time to realization of corporate applications in the long run through re-use, but that benefit can be more than offset if the amount of work to be done building data containers, lists, manipulators, sorters, handlers and presentation objects is too great. A recent Request For Proposals was recently posted to the net for "...the development of a NeXTSTEP ObjectWare component...[that will] be a subclass of DBTableView. The class will function identically to the DBTableView with the exception of supporting a single summary row placed at either the top or bottom of the data rows of the DBTableView. The summary row will contain a summary of the information held in the data rows of the DBTableView, and would be "locked" into position and kept from scrolling as the user scrolls through the data rows. As an example, for numeric data this could contain a number which represents the sum of the values in all of the other rows in a given column..." Presumably this represents a contract worth something in the 5 (6?) figure range. What happens if this proposer discovers the need to have a control-break or cross-tab TableView? Another 5/6 figure contract added to the first begins to add up... We will find a simpler, ready-made solution. Powersoft's PowerBuilder, with it's DataWindow is an obvious choice. If NeXT expects to target Fortune 500 companies it must realize that it is technology for BUSINESS's sake, not technology for TECHNOLOGY's sake that cuts corporate PO's. THE "DATAWINDOW" OBJECT Powersoft's DataWindow objects handle the types of requirements outlined in the above Request for Proposals EFFORTLESSLY...you simply: 1) Pick the type of DataWindow you want (Graph, Tabular, Grid, CrossTab, FreeForm, Labels, etc), specify your data source (Database Tables, Stored Procedures, None (programmatic), etc), 2) Create a new instance (click "OK"), layout your columns, drag "computed fields" wherever required (in the header, footer, as a separate column, etc, 3) Simply type in the formula you would like the computed field to compute (ie. SUM("employee_salary" for all) would cause the value of this computed column to contain the average salary for all employees. If we wanted to place the computed column in the actual rows of data (for EACH employee record retrieved), simply drag it there and the DataWindow will compute the field for each row retrieved (ie. "employee_salary" - AVG("employee_salary" for all) would display the dollar difference between this employee's salary and the average salary). 4) ONE line of code is required to make it work: you tell the DataWindow to "Retrieve" itself (ie. when the user pushes a button, the window it's on opens, etc). WHAT'S THE POINT? WERE THE DATAWINDOW OBJECTS AVAILABLE as an Interface Builder Palette, we, the Fortune 500, would have available the best of both worlds in ONE integrated environment. Object technology (EO, Obj-C, IB, PB) AND a data interface object robust enough to handle ANY business requirement. This combination would represent, I believe, the most comprehensive, extensible custom business application development environment on the PLANET. How do I know? Because Powersoft became a $100M NASDAQ company in less than 4 years by selling products based on ONE OBJECT - the DataWindow. GIVE US A REASON By Powersoft making available it's "crown jewel", the DataWindow object, either as part of the EOF palette (2.0?) or as a 3rd party palette vendor on top of EO, we could, indeed, have the best of both worlds. Powersoft knows about NEXTSTEP, as it is listed on the PowerBuilder feedback cards under "Current GUI:", but may believe that a full port of their PowerBuilder 4GL development environment is necessary (where would that leave NEXTSTEP Developer?), when really all that's required is a Powersoft DataWindow palette, fully integrated with EOF. Why would any Fortune 500 business develop applications using ANYTHING else? AT LEAST GET ACQUAINTED NeXT EOF engineers need to look at the DataWindow object from Powersoft, and Powersoft DataWindow engineers need to take a look at EOF. There has to be enough common ground to at least warrant a look at the possibilities... NeXT: Powersoft Corporation 70 Blanchard Road Burlington, MA 01803 (617) 229-2200 Powersoft: NeXT Computer, Inc 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 (800) 848-6398 =========================== -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Message-ID: <Cvt3L7.Fp@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <8iMvbpi00WBME=2MFu@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:24:42 GMT In article <8iMvbpi00WBME=2MFu@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > When? > Where? > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > (Either a NEXTSTEP version or a HP/UX version'll do.) In his README to DoomView.app, Brian Willoughby say's: "I didn't bother compiling an HP version since Doom doesn't run on that machine anyway." In the yesterday arrived posting from alt.games.doom.announce there is nothing about a HP/UX version. But they say: "NEXTSTEP: There is a version 1.2 available from cs.orst.edu. There will be a ver 1.6 available there as soon as we release the patch for the DOS version. This will be out next in-house port. Dave will be doing this and it will have sound when it's done, just like the SGI version. Omnigroup is working on a new NEXTSTEP release of DOOM with interceptor direct framebuffer access, sound, customizable controls, and lots of other features. A DOOM II release will also be available." And (they say) there will be versions for OS/2, SGI Irix v5.2, Linux, Atari's Jaguar, MAC and Windows. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: EMail/Phone# FOR ALEMBIC SYSTEMS Date: 8 Sep 1994 14:22:20 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com> Subject says it all. I am trying to contact Alembic in order to make internet connections via Mail.app
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: EMail/Phone# FOR ALEMBIC SYSTEMS Date: 8 Sep 1994 10:13:37 -0500 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Message-ID: <34n9n1$8vr@crchh921.bnr.ca> References: <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com> In article <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com>, James Gaines <p00378@psilink.com> wrote: >Subject says it all. I am trying to contact Alembic in order to make internet connections >via Mail.app Alembic Systems International Ltd. 14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228 Englewood, Colorado 80112 (800) 452-7608 (303) 799-6223 (303) 799-1435 fax info@alembic.com ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ==================================================================== The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR. ====================================================================
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help: problem writing to port A of Turbo Cube (BLACK) Message-ID: <35360@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Date: 8 Sep 94 15:25:30 GMT Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine I have a PC hooked up to port A on my NeXT Turbo Cube so that I can send data to a program running on the PC. I can send the data to the PC provided that I have port A set up as ttya in the ttys file as follows. ttya "/usr/etc/getty knj.9600" vt100 on secure I write to "/dev/ttya". However, the data sent to the PC is intermixed with the NeXT login prompt. All would be fine if I could eliminate this. So, according to the man page for zs(4), I set up port A as follows. ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D9600" vt100 on secure And, of course, disabled ttya by saying "off". I then write to "/dev/cua" and cann't get the device open. I also tried setting up port A as ttyfa. ttyfa "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure Again, I disabled ttya, ttyda and wrote to /dev/cufa and again cannot open the line. I'm including the relevant portion of the code that opens port A on the NeXT. I would appreciate any help/suggestions/etc. Many thanks. Rob Arrabito e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca ----------------------- begin of code ----------------------------- #define RS232_LINE "/dev/cua" setbuf(stdout, NULL); if (freopen(RS232_LINE, "w", stdout) == NULL) { fprintf(stderr, "problem assigning stdout to serial line \n"); /* NB: I get this message when I have RS232_LINE defined as either /dev/cua or /dev/cufa */ exit(1); } system("stty cbreak -echo"); fflush(stdout); for (i = 0; i < 9; i++) { c = getchar(); putchar(c); fflush(stdout); } /* for (i = 0; .. */ system("stty -cbreak echo "); close(stdout);
From: miles@dolphin.org (Miles Fawcett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep+Gateway P5-90+HTTP Server=??Performance?? Date: 8 Sep 1994 19:00:08 GMT Organization: Dolphin Communications Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3498] Message-ID: <34nmvo$6mg@sun.cais.com> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. How can we expect the performance of our HTTP server running on NS to compare to one running on BSD or SCO Unix? Thanks -Miles * Please cc: response to miles@dolphin.org ____________________________________________________________________ Miles Fawcett ¥ miles@dolphin.org ¥ Washington DC
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 8 Sep 1994 19:02:40 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <34nn4g$a35@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: .sit, Opener Hi All - Anyone having any luck with getting Opener.app to open .sit files? I'm getting a message like: "Unknown compression methods 0 d, skipping file" "Unknown compression methods d d, skipping file" Replies here or via e-mail: bill.edney@mccaw.com Cheers All, - Bill
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Noblesse Oblige? Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:14:34 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Sep8.181434.669@harka> Summary: Does Noblesse Oblige come out finally? Keywords: Noblesse Oblige, Game Originator: HARKA@nice Do you remember the discussion about the game "Cultural Evolution: Noblesse Oblige"? Will it finally come out? Was it even finished? I'll have some weeks of vacation next month and have the need for a great game ;-) - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is CryptorBundle Date: 8 Sep 1994 17:19:21 -0400 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34nv4p$fre@condor.cs.jhu.edu> The subject pretty much says it all. I'm also curious if the existence of this bundle means there is an API to mail that allows arbitrary bundles to be added to it to do other niffty things. Chris
From: tevans@sal.cs.utah.edu (Terry Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How much is license for SoftPC? Date: 8 Sep 1994 22:33:25 GMT Organization: University of Utah Computer Science Department Message-ID: <34o3fl$rcc@magus.cs.utah.edu> How much is it to buy the normal SoftPC license for NS intel 3.2? Thanks in advance! Terry Evans tevans@cs.utah.edu -- This is a sample .sig file
From: arnouilj@oahu.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: When NewsGrazer will be available on NeXTSTEP/HPPA ??? Date: 8 Sep 1994 13:16:32 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <34n2rg$vu@srv5.esiee.fr> Does Jayson Adams is reading this ??? It will be great if he could release an HPPA version of his exellent NewsGrazer app ... I'm waiting for it to replace my Black hardware by that little grey Gecko ... Hope this waiting will not be too long. -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: MPEG movie ? Message-ID: <1994Sep8.145226.9057@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:52:26 GMT I'm looking for some nice MPEG movies working with MPEG_Play.app, the NeXTSTEP version of the MPEG decoder from the Berkeley Plateau Research Group. Any archive site ? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ghostscript Date: 9 Sep 1994 01:08:33 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <34ocih$811@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> Keywords: gnu, ghostscript I have been trying to compile ghostscript 2.6.1 on both white and black boxes. As recommended in the directions in ghostHPDJ v0.1, i have modified the Makefile to add -D_NEXT_SOURCE to CFLAGS and changed all instances of sys/time.h to ansi/time.h However, when i run `gs', the following works: GS> /box {} def GS> while: GS> /box1 GS1> { Error: /syntaxerror in -filetype- Operand stack: /box1 Execution stack: %interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %loop_continue --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: 530/547 0/20 6/200 Current file position is 26 GS<1> produces a syntax error. I thought that /box {} def and /box1 { } def were the same thing (i.e the carriage returns were irrelevant) Am i missing something? Thanks for any and all I/O. -- cheers, !ramanan ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Nicole A Vincent <nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au> Subject: NewsGrazer "Posting failed: Can't generate Message-ID" Message-ID: <CvuEno.80@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent) Organization: Cafe Abbey - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 03:21:24 GMT Hi I've just experienced a problem with NewsGrazer whilst trying to post a message to the net. The station in question runs on a NetInfo network and connects to a Sun nntp server running Inews. Whenever I try to post a new article, I get the following error message displayed in a "Post Window": Posting failed: Can't generate Message-ID, Permission denied Has anyone else had a similar problem, and did you figure out how to solve it? I'd apreciate any suggestions. Cheers Nicole --- ----------------------NeXTmail Accepted and preferred -------------------- Nicole Vincent : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA The joys of love made her human and the agonies of love destroyed her. -- Spock, "Requiem for Methuselah", stardate 5842.8
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 04:31:43 GMT Jean-Marc Debaud writes > > I can't agree more with this article. NeXT provides a very > nice development platform but that remains crude and for > which the learning curve is very long unless you were > born a geek and absorbed UNIX by the bowl. Pursuing your PhD (as you mention below), I suspect you know the value of making un-substantiated statements as above. You would serve your argument better by describing exactly HOW crude the NEXTSTEP development environemnt is. Particularly useful would be DIRECT, BROAD & DEEP comparisions to a variety of similar tools (and, even though it's quite differnt, PowerBuilder too, since that's what started this hole thread). > For real applications and REAL speed of development, something > like Powersoft tools should be available on the NeXT, even if > this means that NeXT should support or choose among some > DB providers outthere. I still don't get it (pardon my ignorance of PowerBuilder) when you say "something like PowerBuilder tools...on the NeXT". What functionality is desired that is currently not available from the Application Kit, Enterprise Objects Framework, ProjectBuilder, InterfaceBuilder, EOModeler? > Yes, this is a call for a REAL DBkit pallette with a REAL > DB oriented application OO Framework. Well, DatabaseKit was, admittedly weak in many ways. Enterprise Objects Framework is a SIGNIFICANT improvement, and DOES provide a "REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. Most are simply building screens/windows, spreading their application logic all over the place, and tying directly to the database. I'll say it again, PowerBuilder may be a terrific tool for building DB-oriented applications quickly, it is NOT a terrific tool for building object-oriented systems that have longevity and model the enterprise. Great for building "new legacy applications"! > PS: Ok, ok... not coincidently, I am doing a PhD on OO Framework > dev. In which case you should know better. You should realize that, while object modeling of the enterprise is a more difficult (read longer) process than building PowerBuilder-type applications, the payoff can be significantly higher. You should realize that those same companies will keep building those applications over and over again. While that wouldn't necessarily change in an object-modeled scenario, what does change is that a SIGNIFICANT (if done correctly) amount of the business model/process/logic/etc. is wrapped up in APPLICATION NEUTRAL objects that can be (relatively) easily re-assembled into new applications. Of the total application logic (and code) a much smaller percentage is application specific. To modify a phrase made popular by the current U.S. President (and this is not directed towards any one person): "It's the objects stupid." -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
From: tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 9 Sep 1994 11:22:59 GMT Organization: Wiltel Advanced Technology Group Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> References: <34nn4g$a35@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: SIT Mac NEXTSTEP compression archive Bill, Hi there. I had the same problem. It likely has to do with your archive being a 'new' or 'latest' version of SIT... You have to make sure the archive is made as a 1.5.1 archive. At least that was my experience... In article <34nn4g$a35@ftp-p.mccaw.com> bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) writes: > Hi All - > > Anyone having any luck with getting Opener.app to open .sit files? I'm > getting a message like: > > "Unknown compression methods 0 d, skipping file" > "Unknown compression methods d d, skipping file" > > Replies here or via e-mail: bill.edney@mccaw.com > > Cheers All, > > - Bill -- Todd Nathan Object Analyst, WilTel Inc. Advanced Technology Group <Todd_Nathan@ATG.WilTel.Com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: AFS WriteUp and PasteUp Message-ID: <1994Sep9.082832.26241@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:28:32 GMT Hi, I am looking for the fax# and tel# of AFS. I was in touch thru Email with Kristofer_Younger <kyounger@afs.com> and I could not get any answer to my three last Email messages. Thanks Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Message-ID: <1994Sep9.072452.2476@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <Cvt3L7.Fp@nexus1.oche.de> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 07:24:52 GMT In article <Cvt3L7.Fp@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes: > In the yesterday arrived posting from alt.games.doom.announce there > is nothing about a HP/UX version. But they say: > "NEXTSTEP: There is a version 1.2 available from cs.orst.edu. There > will be a ver 1.6 available there as soon as we release the patch for > the DOS version. This will be out next in-house port. Dave will be > doing this and it will have sound when it's done, just like the > SGI version. Omnigroup is working on a new NEXTSTEP release of > DOOM with interceptor direct framebuffer access, sound, > customizable controls, and lots of other features. > A DOOM II release will also be available." The DOS 1.6 patches were just released. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for CIUSA Date: 9 Sep 1994 15:35:42 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[4630] Distribution: world Message-ID: <34pvce$t77@elna.ethz.ch> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Does anybody know what happened to CIUSA? I lost contact in June. Did anybody had contact to them after that date? I am looking for their latest contact information (I know that they aren't on the net anymore but they don't answer faxes either). Thanx. ------- Marc
From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sequence (Presto) Date: 9 Sep 1994 15:38:54 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[4630] Distribution: world Message-ID: <34pvie$t77@elna.ethz.ch> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. What happened to Pinnacle's Sequence (Presto)? Did they sell this program, too? Who is developing Sequence at the moment? Thanx for any hint. ------ Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Re: AFS WriteUp and PasteUp Message-ID: <CvvDKI.73s@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis References: <1994Sep9.082832.26241@free.fdn.org> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 15:55:29 GMT > I am looking for the fax# and tel# of AFS. From the Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Server, Objects and Palettes: Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. 1-800-237-8723 215-653-0911 215-653-0711 Fax kits@afs.com The reason I am posting this as opposed to a direct reply is that I would like to take this opportunity to mention the Objects and Palettes page on the Stepwise server (http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html) (from the top page, go to Product Directory followed by Objects and Palettes). This collection of third-party product to extend the application environment. This is what Taligent is promissing; it is nice to see it already occurring on NEXTSTEP. Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: Re: When NewsGrazer will be available on NeXTSTEP/HPPA ??? Message-ID: <CvvE00.7HF@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis References: <34n2rg$vu@srv5.esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:04:47 GMT In article <34n2rg$vu@srv5.esiee.fr> arnouilj@oahu.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) writes: > Does Jayson Adams is reading this ??? > > It will be great if he could release an HPPA version of his > exellent NewsGrazer app ... Jayson Adams, no longer with NeXT, does not control NewsGrazer - NeXT apparently does. NeXT has not been very clear on its support of NewsGrazer - there has been extensive discussions on this issue in the past. There are other efforts afoot for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep news readers; keep an eye open for them. > Hope this waiting will not be too long. Hmmm. No predictions here. Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: larryc@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Larry Cusick) Subject: OmniWeb Help Message-ID: <CvvCM7.JH7@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Sender: news@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU Organization: CSU Fresno Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 15:34:54 GMT I ftp'd OmniWeb from ftp.omnigroup.com but am unable to get it to run. I believe I uncompressed the thing correctly, at least I have alot of files (mostly .tiff files) and a file called OmniWeb that looks like the aplication. But when I run it I get the message: process exited. I am using NeXTStep 2.2. Has any one out there successfully gotten this thing to run? Thanks in advance. Larry Cusick larry_cusick@csufresno.edu
From: drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Jon Drnek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Apps on HP Date: 9 Sep 1994 18:03:13 GMT Organization: gvsu Distribution: world Message-ID: <34q811$brb@news.it.gvsu.edu> I am news to this news group so i may be asking some question that have allready been answered, if so im sorry. Our computer lab just got 20 new HP computers running next step and now im looking for either some apps to run on them or some source code. Ive searched several ftp sites and i could not find anything. Hopefully someone here can help me. Im looking for Newsgrazer, ImageViewer, GatorFTP, and Archie. Later, Drnek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9409091457.AA11283@serve.network.cfc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 94 10:57:02 -0400 Subject: revision control software What software is available for complete revision control of NEXTSTEP projects? I know only of DevMan and DRCS. I have used DevMan and don't care for it. DRCS is supposed to be much better and more NEXTSTEP-compliant, but I haven't had time to check it out yet. Can anyone compare these two apps? Is there something out there that's better? I'd prefer to use a totally NEXTSTEP-compliant app and not just a UNIX program, like RCS, since this will be needed for NEXTSTEP application development using ProjectBuilder and also for keeping versions of TeX documents. Thanks. --- Timothy Mills fax: (810) 948-3342 work: (810) 948-4959 t6882tm@network.cfc.com NeXTmail welcomed!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: NeXT NetHack Message-ID: <1994Sep9.180027.701@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Organization: /etc/organization Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 18:00:27 GMT Where is it??? I picked up a copy a few days ago and just tried to compile it. It was missing NetHackApp.m, or something line that (a source file). I was wondering if a new archive has been posted, and where... Thanks, Kurt p.s. The copy I downloaded was NetHack.s.tar.gz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Questions about NS/Intel installation Message-ID: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:02:43 GMT Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. This raises a few questions, that I'm hoping to get the answers for. What are the currently available SCSI drivers? What brand of SCSI card must I have in order to install NeXTSTEP from the CD? Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS? Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary drive for all OSs you wish to boot? Thanks! -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener.app won't open .ps files Date: 9 Sep 1994 22:54:52 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <34qp3s$s09@news.iastate.edu> My previewer works fine, but when I try to preview from the print panel Opener.app is called and fails. How can I get rid of the .ps recognition by Opener.app? -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb Help Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:48:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <34ql82$a8j@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <CvvCM7.JH7@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> In article <CvvCM7.JH7@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> larryc@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Larry Cusick) writes: > I ftp'd OmniWeb from ftp.omnigroup.com but am unable to get it to run. > I believe I uncompressed the thing correctly, at least I have alot of > files (mostly .tiff files) and a file called OmniWeb that looks like > the aplication. But when I run it I get the message: process exited. I > am using NeXTStep 2.2. Has any one out there successfully gotten this > thing to run? Thanks in advance. You need 3.x to run OmniWeb.app. -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app won't open .ps files Date: 9 Sep 1994 23:56:21 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <34qsn5$roi@news.duke.edu> References: <34qp3s$s09@news.iastate.edu> In article <34qp3s$s09@news.iastate.edu>, <sela@iastate.edu> wrote: > >My previewer works fine, but when I try to preview from the print panel >Opener.app is called and fails. How can I get rid of the .ps recognition >by Opener.app? Select a .ps file in your File Viewer and select Tools->Inspector from the Workspace menu. Pull the popup button that appears on the inspector panel down to Tools. You'll see icons for all the apps that understand .ps files, and Opener is the default one. Select a different one, probably Preview, and click the Set Default button. You're done--Preview will now be the default app for .ps files. BTW, this bug will be fixed in the next release of Opener, I promise! :-) Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward.
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 9 Sep 1994 23:33:11 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <34qrbn$i8f@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> <1994Sep6.002857.7676@tdkt.mn.org> Carl Hoang (choang@tdkt.mn.org) wrote: : This is very good analysis of PB. I don't know anything about Next but I : like the PB analysis. : Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org I don't agree. Although the the PowerBuilder component that the author talks about is unique and powerful, it was nothing more than a curiosity when my company was evaluating it. It was not enough to justify going with a tool with a completely proprietary scripting language and a slightly less-than-object-oriented design. Not to mention that it was only available on Windows at the time, and our users are sick of that unstable environment. Furthermore, PowerSoft is adopting evil&rude tactics on par with Microsofts. Who cares what PB 4.0's feature set will be? Christ, make 3.x stable first. The author claims that the DataWindow component is the reason for PB's success. This is incorrect. PB is a top-seller because it is one of the better environments available for Windoze. ^^^^^^^ I'm a NextStep user, so obviously I'm a biased religious fanatic, right? :-) I'd like to see OpenStep for NT. Windows users could use an open OO development/user enviroment. They need a better GUI too. Most of them don't know, yet. Others know but couldn't leverage their current investment without OpenStep/NT. pohl c/o jham@unlinfo.unl.edu low-temperature flames only. -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: 9 Sep 1994 23:43:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> <pcallies.147.0026D7FF@csc.com> Peter Callies (pcallies@csc.com) wrote: : In article <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: : >> PowerBuilder fanatic with weak thesis... : > NextStep fanatic hitting his head against the wall... : I agree with your points about modeling the business being the most important : part of development. However, for those of us working with Fortune 500 : companies that sometimes have difficulties making commitments to a technology : or methodology, it is difficult (at best) if not impossible (at worst) to : convince them to spend the necessary time (and don't tell me it doesn't take a : lot of time to accurately model a large business) modeling. Without a : high-level managerial commitment, it's difficult to get mid-level : management support--they want to see tangible, usable, results : quickly because it's their butts on the line. : I wish this wasn't the case, but I feel that it is. It's the same way at my company. I don't think it has anything to do with being in the Fortune 500. If you need fast results to get a commitment, get a platform that aids rapid applications development. PB is good for throwing together cheap stuff for Windows that could fool most managers. NextStep is good for rapidly developing robust Enterprise quality applications with a decent amount of code-reuse. It also has a long list of other advantages, available upon request from your nearest NextStep spiritual leader. ;-) Personally, I think that NextStep Developer is a better toolset and the OS is a better environment. PB gets the advantage of cheap client machines, at the cost of frequent rebooting, which is a selling point to most managers who prefer the bottom-line to the strategic advantage. This sounds bitter, doesn't it? Pohl c/o jham@unlinfo.unl.edu : * All views expressed are my own unless expressly stated otherwise. : ******************************************************************* -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb problems... Date: 09 Sep 1994 21:25:39 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep9222539@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: wjs@omnigroup.com I'm running .7.4.1 of OmniWeb with The ImageFilterService version 3.0 Well for some reason only for me I can crash this thing at the "How to contact OmniWeb" page every single time. Anybody have a similar problem? Lately OW has been _very_ unreliable for me but apparently others aren't experiencing the same problems. What else could it be? -- "Mariella Mariella Mariella" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: almost fixed..... Date: 09 Sep 1994 21:31:11 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep9223111@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: paul@seer.demon.co.uk,wjs@omnigroup.com I just turned "show linked buttons" off in preferences and that appears to have fixed things. -- "Mariella Mariella Mariella" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Improv Demo Date: 10 Sep 1994 09:52:30 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <34rvku$149@news.bu.edu> NeXTSTEP 2.1 copies, at least those that I remember seeing around the campus and sold on machines going into the educational sector, there used to be what I think was a .ps movie which would present a demonstration of Improv on the NeXT. Does anyone happen to still have copies of this thing? And if so, would they beo willing to take a minute and mail this to me? Thanks much, by the way this is NOT a request for Improv! This was a demo which stepped through Improv complete with screenshots iand voice annotation, it wasn't cripplewares, or an unlicensed copy of the program itself, which (if it exists) I'm not looking for! mucho gracias
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:58:12 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <8iMvbpi00WBME=2MFu@andrew.cmu.edu> <Cvt3L7.Fp@nexus1.oche.de> Doom 2 will be tri-fat. Runs awesome on the HPs. I don't know if the Id guys are going to go back and release 1.6 tri-fat, or add our sound code to it, or roll their own.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: 10 Sep 1994 16:55:34 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <34soe6$hm9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <8iMvbpi00WBME=2MFu@andrew.cmu.edu> <Cvt3L7.Fp@nexus1.oche.de> <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >Doom 2 will be tri-fat. Runs awesome on the HPs. >I don't know if the Id guys are going to go back and release 1.6 tri-fat, >or add our sound code to it, or roll their own. Can you give us an estimation of time frame for Doom II to be released for NS, how much it will cost, and how it performs on a plain old NS Color (non-turbo)? -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT NetHack Date: 10 Sep 1994 17:21:49 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <34spvd$2be@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <1994Sep9.180027.701@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <1994Sep9.180027.701@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes: > Where is it??? I picked up a copy a few days ago and just tried to compile > it. It was missing NetHackApp.m, or something line that (a source file). I > was wondering if a new archive has been posted, and where... There's a new version on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games/strategic/NetHac k.s.tar.gz Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv Demo Date: 10 Sep 1994 18:31:22 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <34su1q$hva@news.iastate.edu> References: <34rvku$149@news.bu.edu> Bryony Bechtold (bbry@bu.edu) wrote: : NeXTSTEP 2.1 copies, at least those that I remember seeing around the campus : and sold on machines going into the educational sector, there used to be what : I think was a .ps movie which would present a demonstration of Improv on the : NeXT. : Does anyone happen to still have copies of this thing? And if so, would they : beo willing to take a minute and mail this to me? FYI, I received a notice from LOTUS that they're going to drop Improv on every platform including MS-Windows. They offer me an upgrade to 1-2-3 rel. 5 for windows and Approach for windows for only $59. They said they're gonna merge the technology of Improv into 1-2-3. : Thanks much, by the way this is NOT a request for Improv! This was a demo : which stepped through Improv complete with screenshots iand voice annotation, : it wasn't cripplewares, or an unlicensed copy of the program itself, which (if : it exists) I'm not looking for! : mucho gracias
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep10.101926.392@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> <pcallies.147.0026D7FF@csc.com> <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 10:19:26 GMT In article <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: > >NextStep is good for rapidly developing robust Enterprise quality >applications with a decent amount of code-reuse. Surely these two goals are mutually exclusive? Because NS is so good for rapid prototyping it encourages the quick hack approach. This doesn't work for large applications. As for code-reuse, I think this is largely a myth. Through cut and paste maybe. Project Builder doesn't even have a "Library" type, surely a pretty basic requisite. No ability to build shared libraries either. Code-reuse mainly comes down to a state of mind. If you're determined to achieve it, you'll do it in whatever language. It doesn't happen automatically (look at the original NeXT Examples and show me the reusable objects:) and in fact subclassing may even be counter-productive. But that's another story. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: parrt@arc.umn.edu (Terence Parr) Subject: DTP on NeXTStep Message-ID: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: AHPCRC, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 23:26:04 GMT Howdy cool NeXTStep users. I'm writing a book on my language tools (the ones being used to build the C/ObjC/C++ browser, actually) and need a DTP program that will handle a long (~400 page) book perhaps with color. Is FrameMaker the only DTP program for NeXTStep? Is it the best? Is it any good? How does it compare to, say, PageMaker? Thanks in advance and please response via email: Terence Parr, parrt@acm.org
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Source for HTML viewer program? Date: 10 Sep 94 22:26:53 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.779236013@budlight> References: <34ikb9$i0n@gateway.wiltel.com> Keywords: HTML HTMD Viewer source next mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) writes: >Is there any programs (source included) out there that are able to read HTML >documents? Hm.. I have the source of the original NeXTstep (sic) editor by TBL, but it has been pulled off the archives and I am not sure if it is still in the public domain. Then, there's our soon to be released PD NEXTSTEP (sic) HTML editor - I'm not sure if we'll release all of the source yet, but at least libraries will be available. And then, EPS has kind of announced to release a browser in the near to middle future, maybe including source. Have you checked out OmniWeb already? Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Casandra compiled for Intel 3.2? Date: 11 Sep 1994 00:00:57 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <34thbp$ime@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Has anyone compiled Casandra for the Intel 3.2 platform. My colleague uses Casandra on his Black Box and really likes it. If anyone has a copy that has been compiled, I would greatly appreciate it if you could mail me a copy. It is my understanding the Casandra is freeware. If this is not the case, please disregard this posting. Thanks in advance.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 20:27:19 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <siQYvbm00iUy05f2gJ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Sep10.101926.392@prim.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 10-Sep-94 Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Missi.. by Dave Griffiths@prim.demo > As for code-reuse, I think this is largely a myth. Through cut and paste > maybe. Project Builder doesn't even have a "Library" type, surely a pretty > basic requisite. Well, it's pretty easy to modify PB to build and install libraries (this requires a little Makefile hacking). WhiteLight's been building libraries though PB for well over a year now, which is before I started working for them. > No ability to build shared libraries either. Good point here, although code reuse and shared libraries are not the same thing. > Code-reuse mainly comes down to a state of mind. If you're determined to > achieve it, you'll do it in whatever language. Agree. Many companies I know of have an "object library", which contains source code for useful objects (and/or pre-built libraries to link in which do something). All it takes is careful design and some additional time to make the code genericly useful. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 11 Sep 1994 02:03:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <34toha$11p@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> parrt@arc.umn.edu (Terence Parr) writes: > need a DTP program that will handle a long [] book perhaps with color. > Is FrameMaker the only DTP program for NeXTStep? There is also Pages. All the others qualify as word processors, not DTP applications. Pages is more user friendly, but Frame is, at the moment, more flexible and a slight amount more functional. Pages has most of the large document functionality that Frame has, except that it won't yet do automatic table of contents generation (this is planned). Pages also gives the user less flexibility in creating stylesheets and templates. Eventually, Pages will bring out a design model editor allowing the user to create his own stylesheets, but at the moment, one is required to choose from among the Pages-provided stylesheets. If you can live with these limitations, however, Pages is a much more user friendly application. It is NextStep native, and everythings just works and looks right. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu (my comments are based on having and using Frame, Pages, WriteUp and WriteNow for NextStep)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Ghostscript Message-ID: <CvwwBD.31p@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <34ocih$811@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 11:38:00 GMT In article <34ocih$811@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) writes: > I have been trying to compile ghostscript 2.6.1 on both white > and black boxes. As recommended in the directions in ghostHPDJ v0.1, > i have modified the Makefile to add -D_NEXT_SOURCE to CFLAGS and > changed all instances of sys/time.h to ansi/time.h > However, when i run `gs', the following works: > > GS> /box {} def > GS> > while: > > GS> /box1 > GS1> { > Error: /syntaxerror in -filetype- > Operand stack: > /box1 > Execution stack: > %interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- > %loop_continue --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- > --nostringval-- > Dictionary stack: > 530/547 0/20 6/200 > Current file position is 26 > GS<1> > > produces a syntax error. I thought that > /box {} def > and > /box1 > { > } def > were the same thing (i.e the carriage returns were irrelevant) > Am i missing something? I experienced something similar when trying to feed a file to ghostscript by doing gs <foo.ps. gs foo.ps worked seemlessly. I would say there are differences between gs' command and file reading modes (Test: Try your input as a file). -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Casandra compiled for Intel 3.2? Date: 11 Sep 1994 04:21:38 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <34u0ki$r5v@news.iastate.edu> References: <34thbp$ime@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Darryl L. James (darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu) wrote: : Has anyone compiled Casandra for the Intel 3.2 platform. My colleague : uses Casandra on his Black Box and really likes it. If anyone has a copy : that has been compiled, I would greatly appreciate it if you could mail me : a copy. It is my understanding the Casandra is freeware. If this is not : the case, please disregard this posting. Thanks in advance. Please... I want it bad too!!! Thanks! Chris
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sequence (Presto) Date: 11 Sep 1994 06:00:37 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Distribution: world Message-ID: <34u6e5$dhe@csi0.csi.uottawa.ca> References: <34pvie$t77@elna.ethz.ch> Marc Petitmermet (petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch) wrote: > What happened to Pinnacle's Sequence (Presto)? Did they sell this > program, too? Who is developing Sequence at the moment? > > Thanx for any hint. I recently talked to the remnants of Pinnacle Research. They limp along, but don't answer phones, email, faxes, or snail mail. Kevin Brain says he will continue to develop Sequence. They have not sold it. Kevin says he will make an annoucement about it sometime. They seem to want to remain non-vocal, so I will not say how I got in touch with him and Mark Henry. I'm very disappointed in them for dropping out of sight as they did, but I wish them well in getting back on their feet. It will be slow, so don't hold your breath. -Peter Foster peter@bio01.bio.uottawa.ca
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: 11 Sep 1994 06:20:43 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <34u7jr$qjk@cs.ubc.ca> References: <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> In article <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: > Doom 2 will be tri-fat. Runs awesome on the HPs. > For us die-hard DOOMers, can you tell us if DOOM/NS will support: 1. Full mouse control? 2. Full-screen mode? (any border at all is a distraction when playing a dark WAD with the lights turned off :-) 3. IPX support to allow multiplayer play with all those DOS folks? -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: wagner@progas.com (Craig Wagner) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <wagner.779128833@progas> Sender: usenet@cal.DCS-Systems.COM Organization: DCS Systems (Alberta) Ltd. References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:40:33 GMT In <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: >I still don't get it (pardon my ignorance of PowerBuilder) when you >"REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does >support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most >PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. I've stayed out of this thread to this point, but I must ask a couple of questions. You indicate that you don't know PowerBuilder, and then you go and cite its weaknesses. How is this possible? Surely you must realize that what you read on Internet, in competitors ads and in magazine articles is mostly anecdotal evidence and is coloured based on any biases the writer may have. Secondly, just because a developer isn't using the tool properly, is that the fault of the tool? PowerBuilder does break down in its support of OO in certain areas. However, if someone were using a C++ compiler to write vanilla C code would you complain that C++ is a poor implementation of OOP? No, it's an uneducated developer. Let's not confuse the use of a tool with the capabilities of the tool. -- Craig Wagner wagner@progas.com DCS Systems Ltd. craigw@dcs-systems.com Calgary, AB
From: mra@mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: where is a fortran compiler? Date: 11 Sep 1994 15:12:48 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <34v6pg$3jv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> anyone know of a *good* public domain fortran compiler? gnu fortran maybe? please email me the ftp site if you know. thanks a million.
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener uncompressed? Date: 11 Sep 1994 18:00:21 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Message-ID: <34vgjl$dgk@pith.uoregon.edu> I recently installed NS3.2 on my 486 and am having a few problems. First how can I uncompress anything with Opener when the opener file itself is compressed? It is available in an uncompressed format. I don't mean the .compressed or .tar extension that the OS can handle on its own, but the .tar.z or .tar.gz. Is there a command line command to unzip these things? I tried a dos zip program but it didn't work. Also - does anyone know how to make cu use port b instead of a. I have my mouse on a and my modem on b but I can't get cu to stop trying to call out through the mouse (it obviously doesn't work too well). Also - is cs.orst.edu down? I get on but the next directory is no longer full of files. Is this other's experience as well. Thanks Please e-mail and I'll summarize if people want Nick Fogelson
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 11 Sep 1994 18:05:19 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> <34toha$11p@nntp2.stanford.edu> In article <34toha$11p@nntp2.stanford.edu>, Todd Takken <takken@leland.stanford.edu> wrote: >In article <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> parrt@arc.umn.edu (Terence Parr) >writes: > >> need a DTP program that will handle a long [] book perhaps with color. >> Is FrameMaker the only DTP program for NeXTStep? > >There is also Pages. > >All the others qualify as word processors, not DTP applications. Last time I checked, PasteUp also qualified as a DTP program. But I guess since you've never used it it doesn't exist? It is still relatively low on the feature-count list as compared to Frame, but Terence should definitely check it out. Send email to PasteUp@afs.com for info. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 11 Sep 1994 15:27:46 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <34vlni$skq@anshar.shadow.net> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> <34toha$11p@nntp2.stanford.edu> <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench (lusty@lusty.tamu.edu) wrote: : Last time I checked, PasteUp also qualified as a DTP program. But : I guess since you've never used it it doesn't exist? It is still : relatively low on the feature-count list as compared to Frame, but : Terence should definitely check it out. Send email to PasteUp@afs.com : for info. In my experience, PasteUp is far better than Frame at design-intensive documents. PasteUp is competitive with PageMaker, but Frame is better suited than either PasteUp or PageMaker for long, technical documents. Jay Fuchs Jaytron Products Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.software From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: WAIS Under NeXT FIP 3.2? Message-ID: <westesCvzJE2.6vE@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:51:38 GMT I am trying to find a version of WAIS that will compile under the Intel 3.2 version of NeXTSTEP. If anyone knows of an ftp source for this could you please post it? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Message-ID: <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:25:37 GMT Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP : (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided : to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. Hi, Chris. I'm in the process of getting up on my feet with NSFIP. My initial impression with NS is that network support does not appear before, but during, the bootup process. Albeit more complex, I'll bet that there is a way(for the seasoned NextStepper) to assemble a boot strapper that points to a remote drive for the boot process. : Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be : physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS? The "jury" is still out on this subject with my initial experience. I have successfully installed without my 5.25, yet I have successfully booted my system from the CD-ROM in single-user mode with the 5.25 connected. BTW, I'm using AMI's Enterprise IV. I was also able to partially boot from my BusLogic 747S floppy logic FWIW; based on my latest success, there is a good chance that this card can floppy boot completely; all of this under Adaptec 1542B emulation; I plan to try the BusLogic driver soon. : Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be : booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the : second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary : drive for all OSs you wish to boot? That's a ways down the road for me, but I read at ftp.next.com that a boot strapper exists to do what you're thinking of. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Learning about NS/I? Date: 11 Sep 1994 19:49 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <11SEP199419490779@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I run NS/Moto on my Cube. I've got a NS/I machine on order. I've just realized I know nothing about NS/I. All my manuals (I've got the NEXTSTEP 3.0 set) say nothing about NS/I. How does one learn about NS/I? Does it come with it's own set of manuals? A user's guide? Is it in the 3.2 on-line documentation somewhere? Etc. Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 12 Sep 1994 04:34:41 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <350lp1$l7h@news.iastate.edu> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> <34toha$11p@nntp2.stanford.edu> <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> <34vlni$skq@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : Lusty Wench (lusty@lusty.tamu.edu) wrote: : : Last time I checked, PasteUp also qualified as a DTP program. But : : I guess since you've never used it it doesn't exist? It is still : : relatively low on the feature-count list as compared to Frame, but : : Terence should definitely check it out. Send email to PasteUp@afs.com : : for info. : In my experience, PasteUp is far better than Frame at design-intensive : documents. PasteUp is competitive with PageMaker, but Frame is better : suited than either PasteUp or PageMaker for long, technical documents. I second this. PasteUp is quite feature rich in doing its job as DTP. But, Frame is better in handling long document. I heard rumor that some people managed to write long document with PasteUp back in version 1? Is that true? I only use PasteUp to doing page design stuff which PasteUp is far more suitable than Frame. Just personal opinion though. Your mileage may vary. Chris : Jay Fuchs : Jaytron Products Corporation
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Date: 12 Sep 1994 05:37:50 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <350pfe$g9s@news.tamu.edu> References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP : (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided : to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. [munch munch] According to the literature distributed at Expo, Netbooting under NSFIP will be supported in NS3.3. Ronald Pomeroy Senior Electrical Engineering Student Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 12 Sep 1994 05:43:40 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <350pqc$gsd@news.tamu.edu> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> <34vlni$skq@anshar.shadow.net> <350lp1$l7h@news.iastate.edu> In article <350lp1$l7h@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@helser54> wrote: > >I heard rumor that >some people managed to write long document with PasteUp back in version >1? Is that true? The PasteUp version 2.5 documentation was done entirely in PasteUp. Don't know if you consider that a "long" document--about 150 pages. It is broken into separate files for each chapter, though, primarily just for the ease of working with it. The WriteUp documentation is also done using PasteUp. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Apps on HP Date: 12 Sep 1994 09:09:38 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3515si$g08@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <34q811$brb@news.it.gvsu.edu> In article <34q811$brb@news.it.gvsu.edu> drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Jon Drnek) writes: > I am news to this news group so i may be asking some question that have allready been answered, if so im sorry. > > Our computer lab just got 20 new HP computers running next step and now im looking for either some apps to run on them or some source code. Ive searched several ftp sites and i could not find anything. Hopefully someone here can help me. > > Im looking for Newsgrazer, ImageViewer, GatorFTP, and Archie. Ditto! Is it so difficult for uncle NeXT to build the Newsgrazer for HP-PA? BTW, we at the EMBL are preparing a new ftp server for supporting the HP community. I hope to make the official announcement later this month... -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: WANTED: Somone to do some FAXING in SF for $$ Date: 12 Sep 1994 11:01:42 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <351cem$dcs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hi! I have a load of faxes (about 200) that I need to drop on some firms in San Francisco. I'm far away (Taiwan) and can't fax them directly. I'd like to hire you to do the faxing for me. This is realy easy, I'll send you the files via e-mail or FTP and all you do is unpack them and then add them to the fax queue using the following three csh lines: foreach bob (`ls *.ps`) lpr -Pfax $bob end where fax is the name of your fax queue. A quick way to earn a few dollars. Your next does all the work and since you're only a local phone call to SF, it doesn't cost you a thing. Thnaks in advance -cjs (and my apologies to those who aren't interested but read this message anyway)
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [HELP!] Why won't rtfd images show ? Date: 12 Sep 1994 11:39:19 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <351el7$cbm@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Keywords: Rich text format, eps My system (MOTO, NS3.0) shows a rather weird behaviour with some of the rtfd-Files coming with the Developer Docs: It doesn't show the right eps-images, instead on the locations where they should be displayed only the NeXT-logo shows up. What worries me now is that it definitely works with some documents (the Objective-C docs in /Concepts, for example) but fails with others (the Localization.rtfd in the same folder). What's wrong? Any help appreciated .... ------------------------------------ "Lost a button hole today." rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <jpanicoCw0pt2.DwD@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> <1994Sep6.002857.7676@tdkt.mn.org> <34qrbn$i8f@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:07:50 GMT : The author claims that the DataWindow component is the reason for PB's : success. This is incorrect. PB is a top-seller because it is one of : the better environments available for Windoze. : ^^^^^^^ : I'm a NextStep user, so obviously I'm a biased religious fanatic, : right? :-) I'd like to see OpenStep for NT. Windows users could use : an open OO development/user enviroment. They need a better GUI too. : Most of them don't know, yet. Others know but couldn't leverage their : current investment without OpenStep/NT. In fact, I don't see why NeXT needs to be in the operating system business at all. How many Posix compliant implementations of Mach do we need, now that we have OSF1 and that the next version of OS/2 (IBM workplace OS) will also be just that? Wouldn't NeXT be in a more competetive position to concentrate all there resources on what they do best, namely OpenStep. NeXT cannot hope to match the resources of IBM and Digital and Microsloth. Though PowerBuilder may be a more shallow solution than EOF, I bet there are many instances where management just wants a shallow FAST FAST FAST solution (god knows it's true here). Microsloth didn't get to where they are by providing good technology. But they did provide a quick and dirty fix to the problem at hand, and rapidly gained control of the market based on that. In the same vein, I doubt EOF will ever be wildly successful unless it can REALLY live up to NeXTs claims that it DRAMATICALLY cuts development time, i.e. comes with a really wizzy interface builder that works a heck of a lot better than DBKit. : pohl c/o jham@unlinfo.unl.edu : low-temperature flames only. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com (Ali Ozer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP!] Why won't rtfd images show ? Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:21:01 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <351o4d$e4@rosie.next.com> References: <351el7$cbm@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <351el7$cbm@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnhoefer writes: > My system (MOTO, NS3.0) shows a rather weird behaviour with some of the > rtfd-Files coming with the Developer Docs: It doesn't show the right > eps-images, instead on the locations where they should be displayed only the > NeXT-logo shows up. > What worries me now is that it definitely works with some documents (the > Objective-C docs in /Concepts, for example) but fails with others (the > Localization.rtfd in the same folder). This was a bug in NEXTSTEP 3.0. It got fixed in 3.1. Images whose names (including the extension) are 8 characters or less stop working in RTFD files when you have some image filters (such as ImageAgent) installed. Other image filters might also cause the same problem. Simplest fix is to uninstall any image filters you have (perhaps one by one until you find the one causing the problem). Another simple fix might be to upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.2. I think the problem had to do with the image filter registering for a file type longer than 5 characters. A complex workaround is to go through the services files for your image filters and remove all such file types; for instance, in ImageAgent.service/services, remove the following lines: Send Type: NXFilenamePboardType:macpaint Send Type: NXFilenamePboardType:raster Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep12.143019.6481@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <1994Sep10.101926.392@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:30:19 GMT Dave Griffiths writes: > jonathan ham writes: > >NextStep is good for rapidly developing robust Enterprise quality > >applications with a decent amount of code-reuse. > > Surely these two goals are mutually exclusive? Because NS is so good for > rapid prototyping it encourages the quick hack approach. This doesn't > work for large applications. No, the great thing about NS is that rapid prototyping need not be accomplished through quick hacks. If you do it right, a good prototype incorporates easily into the ultimate project. > As for code-reuse, I think this is largely a myth. Wrong. Reread our case study (I think you have it) for details on our experience with code reuse. We continue to be pleased with our reuse rates, which now span more than three years of real-world experience. > Project Builder doesn't even have a "Library" type, surely a > pretty basic requisite. No ability to build shared libraries either. The lack of shared libraries is a drag, but only to the extent of the code image existing in memory more than once. One of my employees published an easy PB Library hack more than a year ago, and I think the version of PB that comes with the EOF disk has incorporated something similar. > Code-reuse mainly comes down to a state of mind. If you're determined > to achieve it, you'll do it in whatever language. It doesn't happen > automatically (look at the original NeXT Examples and show me the > reusable objects:) and in fact subclassing may be counter-productive. > But that's another story. You can't accomplish code reuse in languages that don't provide the right primitives. I would love to apply the principles we've learned in NS to our old DOS/MS-BASIC version, but that ain't gonna happen. I'd love to hear another story. Let's have some examples where subclassing is counter-productive. I don't know any personally. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener uncompressed? Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:50:36 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3520ss$9en@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <34vgjl$dgk@pith.uoregon.edu> In article <34vgjl$dgk@pith.uoregon.edu> fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) writes: > I don't mean > the .compressed or .tar extension that the OS can handle on its own, but > the .tar.z or .tar.gz. Is there a command line command to unzip these > things? How about /usr/bin/gunzip ? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:53:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <352122$9fq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> In article <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: > Last time I checked, PasteUp also qualified as a DTP program. But > I guess since you've never used it it doesn't exist? Yes, I also have PasteUp. Sorry, I forgot to mention that in my list (Pages, Frame, WriteUp, WriteNow AND PASTEUP). It is a good application, but doesn't have sufficient functionality to be called DTP, in my opinion. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Maple for HP-PA RISC Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:57:21 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <35219h$qn4@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: Maple,HP Darren McIntyre at Maple has given me permission to post this address: info@maplesoft.on.ca Attention: Sales Department. If you want Maple to ported to NEXSTEP for HP send them a line. I've heard the Mathematica is already being ported. They need some justification to do the port so let them know. alan
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:15:24 GMT Organization: Purdue University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Keywords: NextTeX, NXFax Hi all, I have just obtained a ZyXEL modem and NXFax. A seemingly wonderful combination, with the exception of faxing TeX documents. I have been playing around trying to get them to come out nicely, but have had a notable lack of success. It seems to me that I ought to be able to send documents at a really high resolution and hence obtain nice results on the other end. I can't seem to change (what appears to be the) default setting of 200 dpi. I edited config.fax, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Can anybody help me out? Thanks - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Message-ID: <1994Sep12.174933.3964@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:49:33 GMT William Shipley writes > Doom 2 will be tri-fat. Runs awesome on the HPs. > > I don't know if the Id guys are going to go back and release 1.6 tri-fat, > or add our sound code to it, or roll their own. If I understand it right, Doom II will have the same engine as 1.666 (or whatever the current version of Doom is when Doom II is released). Put another way, the engine in Doom II will be available to original Doom owners. Hopefully this means that we will get sound and HP support for the original Doom (and I think I remember seeing a post from John Camarak(sp? - sorry) saying that the next release of the registered version of Doom would be available for NS). Will we see this soon since registered version 1.666 was just released for DOS? So, for the sound support, did you create a wavetable-like playback server with a subset (or all) of the GM samples and patches that Doom uses, or did you create an FM emulator? Hey ID, how about continuing the tradition of NS users as beta-testers. I would love to get my hands on Doom II before the rest of the Doom community :-). Later... -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
From: byoung@fermat.b17d.ingr.com (H. Bret Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Casandra compiled for Intel 3.2? Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:04:00 GMT Organization: Intergraph Corp. Distribution: world Message-ID: <35256g$1nj@b17news.b17a.ingr.com> References: <34thbp$ime@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> <34u0ki$r5v@news.iastate.edu> In article <34u0ki$r5v@news.iastate.edu>, chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) writes: |> Darryl L. James (darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu) wrote: |> : Has anyone compiled Casandra for the Intel 3.2 platform. My colleague |> : uses Casandra on his Black Box and really likes it. If anyone has a copy |> : that has been compiled, I would greatly appreciate it if you could mail me |> : a copy. It is my understanding the Casandra is freeware. If this is not |> : the case, please disregard this posting. Thanks in advance. |> |> Please... I want it bad too!!! Thanks! |> |> Chris |> You can get the source in one of the usual places. I think I remember getting it from cs.orst.edu. There is a bug that needs to be fixed before it will run properly. One of the fprintf statements is missing a comma before a PROGNAME (#defined in cass.h). I think it was in Event.m. Just search for PROGNAME and it should be obvious when you find it. The one you want is NOT surrounded by #ifdef DEBUG ... #endif. Bret byoung@ingr.com
From: leslie@mercury.interpath.net (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to undo ....tar.gz? Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:29:15 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> New to the NeXT and too lazy to RTFM? What do I do after downloading a file stored as XXX.tar.gz? Thanks. +==John B. Leslie, MD ==== leslie@mercury.interpath.net =======+ (919) 681-5991 (O) Snailer: Box 3094, Duke Hospital (919) 681-2735 (F) Durham, NC 27710 +== 911 for real help ========= lesli001@mc.duke.edu ==========+
From: ramanan@channel.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ghostscript Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:32:50 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <3523c2$mno@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <CvwwBD.31p@belly.in-berlin.de> In article <CvwwBD.31p@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: > I experienced something similar when trying to feed a file to > ghostscript by doing gs <foo.ps. gs foo.ps worked seemlessly. > > I would say there are differences between gs' command and > file reading modes (Test: Try your input as a file). -- Thanks, that did the trick - i can now print on white boxes -- finally ! And, as a follow-up, `gs - <foo.ps' works too. cheers, !ramanan ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
From: ramanan@channel.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ghostscript Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:34:55 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <3523fv$mp3@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <CvwwBD.31p@belly.in-berlin.de> In article <CvwwBD.31p@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes: > I experienced something similar when trying to feed a file to > ghostscript by doing gs <foo.ps. gs foo.ps worked seemlessly. > > I would say there are differences between gs' command and > file reading modes (Test: Try your input as a file). -- Thanks, that did the trick - i can now print on white boxes -- finally ! And, as a follow-up, `gs - <foo.ps' works too. BTW, i had to modify the shell script that GhostHPDJ generates (/usr/local/lib/ ghostscript/filt/filt.sh) slightly along the above lines to make it work for me. cheers, !ramanan ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:48:46 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <35249u$r9g@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> In article <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) writes: > Bill, > > Hi there. I had the same problem. It likely has to do with > your archive being a 'new' or 'latest' version of SIT... > You have to make sure the archive is made as a 1.5.1 archive. > At least that was my experience... > > -- > Todd Nathan > Object Analyst, WilTel Inc. > Advanced Technology Group > <Todd_Nathan@ATG.WilTel.Com> Thanks Todd. Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) Cheers, - Bill
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:49:13 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3524ap$r9h@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> In article <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) writes: > Hi there. I had the same problem. It likely has to do with > your archive being a 'new' or 'latest' version of SIT... > You have to make sure the archive is made as a 1.5.1 archive. > At least that was my experience... Thanks Todd. Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) Cheers, - Bill
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:50:06 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3524ce$r9i@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> In article <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) writes: > Hi there. I had the same problem. It likely has to do with > your archive being a 'new' or 'latest' version of SIT... > You have to make sure the archive is made as a 1.5.1 archive. > At least that was my experience... Thanks Todd. Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) I guess for the short term I could try to have the folks who did the compressing recompress it in .sit 1.5.1 format. I'll try that. Cheers, - Bill
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:51:27 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3524ev$r9k@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> In article <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) writes: [good idea on why my .sit file isn't uncompressing with Opener.app; that it has to be .sit format 1.5.1] Thanks Todd. Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) I guess for the short term I could try to have the folks who did the compressing recompress it in .sit 1.5.1 format. I'll try that. Cheers, - Bill
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The 7th Guest & 11th Hour Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:07:30 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3528ti$4fo@anshar.shadow.net> A while back, Graeme Devine from Trilobyte posted that a NeXTSTEP player for The 7th Guest & The 11th Hour would be available. If so, when will it be available, and from where? Additionally, I'd love to get some info on how NS was used to develop T7G & T11H. Jay Fuchs Jaytron Products Corp.
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEED NeXT SOFTWARE from Net Date: 12 Sep 1994 19:21:16 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <3529nc$an4@galaxy.ucr.edu> I have been trying to download software (from FTP sites) on the net and have had problems. I am downloading the executables as binary but when I get it down to my machine, the Opener app gives "corrupt input" errors. Can anyone help I'm a student and can't get any new software for my NeXT Cube until I work this out. Here's the details: 1.) I am running NS 3.2 on an 040/25 cube. 2.) I am using a telebit, hayes compatible modem with Kermit set to the following settings: a.) Modem set to hayes b.) Line set to /dev/cufa c.) Speed set 9600 3.) I have been getting "corrupt input" errors from Opener. I don't know if this is pertinent, but the fiel names of the downloaded file don't have any periods in them they're replaced by x's. Thanks in advance... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accidently into / / into the the 20th century" / / - Edward Witten / / NeXT-Mail Welcome!... uh, as soon as I figure it out :) / / All flames to dev/null / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hidinger@sandlot.nosc.mil (Ronald M Hidinger) Subject: framemaker announcement Message-ID: <1994Sep12.192721.12395@nosc.mil> Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:27:21 GMT I seem to have lost the recent announcement by Frame that they are shipping Framemaker for NSFIP. Would someone kindly forward it to me. -- Ron Hidinger hidinger@nosc.mil
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to undo ....tar.gz? Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:02:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <352c3u$brd@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> In article <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> leslie@mercury.interpath.net (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology) writes: > New to the NeXT and too lazy to RTFM? What do I do after > downloading a file stored as XXX.tar.gz? /usr/bin/gunzip XXX.tar.gz /bin/tar xvf XXX.tar -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 19:41:17 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <352ast$rmk@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <34pgij$gvb@hal01.wiltel.com> Thanks Todd. Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) Cheers, - Bill
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to undo ....tar.gz? Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:34:02 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <352dvq$7ml@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> John B Leslie - Duke University Medical Center - Anesthesiology writes > New to the NeXT and too lazy to RTFM? What do I do after > downloading a file stored as XXX.tar.gz? > > Thanks. > > +==John B. Leslie, MD ==== leslie@mercury.interpath.net =======+ > (919) 681-5991 (O) Snailer: Box 3094, Duke Hospital > (919) 681-2735 (F) Durham, NC 27710 > +== 911 for real help ========= lesli001@mc.duke.edu ==========+ The first thing to do is to download Opener.app. Install Opener.app and then just double click on the tar.gz'ed file. This tends to be the quick answer to decompressing most things. Opener.app should be available on cs.orst.edu. The longer answer depends on which version of NS you have, I think, and probably has something to do with downloading gzip (GNUzip). Personally, I'd go with Opener.app. -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:18:50 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <352d3a$rqi@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <352ast$rmk@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Hi All - Sorry for all the weird manifestations of that previous message, but NG kept telling me that it couldn't post the message because "the included text was longer than the rest". Grrr. - Bill
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:53:34 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YiRArSK00iUz0_rypx@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Sep12.174933.3964@il.us.swissbank.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 12-Sep-94 Re: HP version of Doom avai.. by Eric_Brown@il.us.swissba > Hey ID, how about continuing the tradition of NS users as beta-testers. I > would love to get my hands on Doom II before the rest of the Doom community > :-). Hell, yes! Tell us when you want us NEXTSTEP people to pay ID the shareware fee and you'll have my money sent within the day. (Some things are way too cool to not support, and Doom running under NEXTSTEP falls into that category, IMHO.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: kientzle@netcom.com Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Message-ID: <kientzleCw1EpH.K8t@netcom.com> Keywords: NextTeX, NXFax Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 22:05:41 GMT In article <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote: >It seems to me that I ought to be able to send documents at >a really high resolution and hence obtain nice results on the >other end. I can't seem to change (what appears to be the) >default setting of 200 dpi. Keep in mind that Group 3 fax only supports 2 resolutions: low resolution is 100dpi (vertical) by 200dpi (horizontal), high resolution (also called `fine') is 200dpi both ways. I.e., 200dpi is probably the best you can get. I believe both Group 4 and `PostScript fax' allow for higher resolutions, but I don't think either of those is widely supported right now. - Tim Kientzle
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUMMARY: printing from NS to non-ps printers Date: 12 Sep 1994 22:19:40 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <352k5s$8rf@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Summary: Synthesis of responses to my query Keywords: printing, drivers, inkjet, djf, DOTS, GS, JetPilot Several weeks ago I asked how one can print from NS to a non-PostScript printer. This is a synthesis of the responses I got. Thanks to all who responded! Any errors are most likely mine, and I welcome any corrections. Under NS, the computer itself can Raster Into PostScript (RIP) your document, and send the resulting bitmap to a dumb printer. Black hardware does this through a dedicated printer port, which connects to the NeXT 400dpi laser printer. White hardware lacks this NeXT printer port, so it can't use the NeXT printer. There are commercial products which RIP the document and send it to a supported printer, for example an HP DeskJet. These include DOTS, GS's EXTRAPrint, and JetPilot. There are also freeware packages, which reportedly require more setup, more software, or are not as well supported. It is illegal to use such software on white or HP hardware without the PostScript output license from NeXT/Adobe ($75). The exception is GS's EXTRAPrint, which includes the PostScript license. This output license is not required for users of black hardware because it was included in the original price of the NeXT. Below is more detailed information on DOTS, GS, JetPilot, and djf. Please note that the products below may have more features or capabilities than I've mentioned; some of my information was sketchy. --David Finton, finton@cs.wisc.edu DOTS ======================================================================== Cost: Starts at $149. Licenses are sold per printer. Support: HP DeskJet and LaserJets, Canon, Epson, NEC, IBM, ... Serial and parallel ports, as well as SCSI for certain printers, Motorola and Intel hardware HP-PA? As of 8-22-94, DOTS did not have a release date for the HP version, since they didn't have an HP yet (source: Angel R. Cura Civetta, angelo@heinz.com). U.S. distributor: Alembic Systems International Ltd. 14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228 Englewood, Colorado 80112 303-799 6223 303-799 1435 fax info@alembic.com In Europe and Asia DOTS is available from most NEXT distributors and resellers. d'ART Software GmbH Virchowstr. 17-19 22767 Hamburg Germany (49)40-38023-0 (49)40-38023-290 fax (c) DOTS was written by Federico Heinz From satisfied customer David Green (david@legion.apana.org.au): Contact Alembic Systems on 1-800-452-7608 for details about academic pricing. GS-Corporation ============================================================== Cost: $650, includes the NeXT Postscript Printer license Contact: Marcel Weiher <marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de> GS-Corporation info@goldleaf.com, +1 (415) 257-4700 JetPilot ==================================================================== Cost: ?? Support: H-P DeskJet or LaserJet series printers, NEXTSTEP 3.x, Motorola and Intel hardware * HP-PA support is expected in JetPilot1.5, which should be on the archives soon. I've been told that mfriedel@interpc.de may be able to supply a demo version. Archive files: (as of November '93) JetPilot_1.1.DEMO.README JetPilot_1.1.DEMO.tar.gz on "cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions" and "ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: /pub/next/Tools/printer". From an old note from Uwe Meyer-Gruhl (meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE): "It is the first third-party printer driver to be fully integrated into NEXTSTEP. This means that you can control options via the PrintPanel from within any application." djf ========================================================================== My information about djf is limited to what I've heard from a satisfied user, who reported that he successfully uses djf for printing from black hardware to HP DeskJets. He says that djf is public domain, and on the archives. I've heard that, since djf is in source form, it *may* be possible to compile it for HP, but I have no knowledge of that.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz) Subject: ListServer Binary? Message-ID: <Cw1CsK.C3w@bldrdoc.gov> Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 21:24:19 GMT Looking for a digest-type listserver app for NS(2.1) or plain ol' BSD. Any hints? thanks, -E -- Eric S. Boltz My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: zand@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mansour Zand) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CFP : ACM Symp. on Soft. Reuse Date: 13 Sep 1994 00:09:42 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska Omaha Message-ID: <352qk6$f6@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, AND PANEL SESSIONS Symposium on Software Reusability (SSR'95) Sponsored by ACM SIGSOFT Seattle, Washington, USA April 28-30, 1995 _____________________________________________________________________________ Steering Committee: G. Arango Schlumberger Lab for Computer Sciences M. Griss HP Labs M. Harandi University of Illinois at Urban-Champaign M. Samadzadeh Oklahoma State University W. Tracz (Chair) Loral Federal Systems M. Zand University of Nebraska-Omaha Executive Committee: GENERAL Chair M. Zand, University of Nebraska-Omaha, USA PROGRAM Chair M. Samadzadeh, Oklahoma State University, USA Europe Chair J. M. Morel, Bull Software Development, France Asia Chair S. Isoda, Toyohashi University of Technology, Japan Publicity Chair S. Henninger, University of Nebraska, USA Tutorial Chair C. Chang, GAK, The Netherlands ____________________________________________________________________________ SSR'95 is the 1995 biyearly Symposium on Software Reusability that is conducted in affiliation with the International Conference on Software Engineering (ICSE-17). The objective of this symposium is to provide a forum for academics and practitioners in the areas related to software reusability to exchange research results, development activities, and application experience reports. Unpublished and original state-of-the-art and state-of-the-practice papers relevant to the symposium themes, as well as panel and tutorial proposals, are solicited. RELEVANT TOPICS INCLUDE: ----------------------- - Application Generators, - Automatic Programming, - Case Studies and Experience Reports, - Component Repositories, - Domain Analysis and Engineering, - Domain Specific Kits, - Industrial Experience and Assessment, - Interface Issues in Software Parts Technology, - Management of Uncertainty in Software Reuse, - Module Interface/Interconnection Languages, - Program Transformation, - Parameterized Programming, - Quantification of Reuse Potential and Measurement of Reuse, - Re-engineering, - Reverse Engineering, - Reuse Environments, - Software Classification and Identification. Also, the reusability aspects of the following areas: -- AI and Expert Systems; -- CASE Tools; -- Economic Issues and Software Trade; -- Management and Policy Issues; -- Mega Programming; -- Network Information Services; -- Object-Oriented Analysis, Programming, and Design; -- Software Case Based Reasoning; -- Version/Configuration Management. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMISSION ------------------------- Several categories of papers will be considered for presentation and publication including: (1) Original and unpublished research articles, (2) Reports of applications in business, government, industry, arts, sciences, and engineering, (3) Reports of successful reuse technology transfer to new problem domains, and (4) Position papers of on-going research efforts with preliminary results, substantial reuse experiences underway, or significant reuse experiments in progress. All papers should clearly indicate what is new and significant about the presented work in comparison to the existing related body of work. The submitted papers must primarily consist of material not previously presented in or currently awaiting acceptance to another formal forum. Accepted papers will be published in the ACM/SSR'95 Proceedings to be printed by the ACM Press. Authors who feel their manuscripts can benefit a more general audience are encouraged to submit their papers to ICSE. ICSE-17 and SSR will cooperate in scheduling overlapping papers and sessions in a way convenient for those participants intending to attend both meetings. - Submit 6 copies of the manuscript to the Symposium Program Chair. - The body of the paper should not exceed 6,000 words (approximately 20 double-spaced pages). Position papers should not exceed 3,000 words (approximately 10 double-spaced pages). - A separate cover sheet should be enclosed containing the title of the paper, the author(s) and affiliation(s), and the address (including the e-mail address and fax number, if available) to which correspondence should be sent. - Panel and tutorial proposals must include a three-page abstract of the topics, including an outline, and a copy of the resume/vita of the participant(s). ------------------------------------------------------------------ | IMPORTANT DATES | | | |November 14, 1994 PAPER, TUTORIAL, AND PANEL SESSION SUBMISSION| |January 16, 1995 AUTHOR NOTIFICATION | |February 27, 1995 FINAL VERSION OF PAPER | ------------------------------------------------------------------ For more information, please contact one of the following: General Chair Mansour Zand Computer Science Department 245 Durham Science Center University of Nebraska-Omaha Omaha, NE 68182-0500 Tel: 402-554-2847 Fax: 402-554-2975 E-mail: zand@unocss.unomaha.edu Program Chair Mansur Samadzadeh Computer Science Department Oklahoma State University 219 MS Building Stillwater, OK 74078 Tel: 405-744-5674 or 405-744-5668 Fax: 405-744-9097 E-mail: samad@a.cs.okstate.edu Asia Chair Sadahiro Isoda Toyohashi University of Technology Tenpaku-cho, Toyohashi-shi, 441 Japan Tel: +81-532-47-0111 Fax: +81-532-47-5301 E-mail: isoda@tutkie.tut.ac.jp Europe Chair Jean-Marc Morel PC: B2-122 Software Development Methodology Bull S.A. Rue Jean-Jaures, BP 68 F-78340, Les Clayes-Sous-Bois, France Tel: +33-1-3080-7448 Fax: +33-1-3080-7078 E-mail: J.M.Morel@frcl.bull.fr Program Committee ----------------- Tsuneo Ajisaka, Kyoto University, Japan Massimo Ancona, Geneva University, Italy Mikio Aoyama, Fujisto, Japan James Bieman, Colorado State University, USA Rainer Brueck, Dortmund University, Germany Reidar Conradi, NTH (University of Trondheim), Norway Massimo D'Alessandro, Intecs Sistemi s.p.a., Italy Valeria De Antonellis, Politecnico di Milano, Italy Danielle Fafchamps, HP Laboratory, USA John Favaro, Intecs Sistemi s.p.a., Italy Stefano Genolini, TXT, Italy M.R. Girardi, Geneva University, Switzerland Hassan Gomaa, George Mason University, USA Gerhard Goos, Karlsruhe University, Germany Jahangir Karimi, University of Colorado, USA Even-Andre Karlson, Q-Labs Research Park, Sweden Yoshizumi Kobayashi, ATR Communications Systems Research Labs, Japan Johan Larsson, E-P Frameworks, Sweden Sadie Legard, UMIST, UK Mitchell Lubars, EDS, USA Ali Mili, University of Ottawa , Canada Roland Mittermeir, University of klagenfurt, Austria Jeff Poulin, Loral Federal Systems, USA Don Reifer, DoD SRI, USA Danielle Ribot, Cap Gemini Innovation, France Gabriel Sanches, SEMA GROUP, Spain Mark Simos, Organon Motives (Software Reuse), USA Guttorm Sindre, University of Trondheim, Norway Jorma Tarama, VTT Electronics, Finland Hans-Guenter Tempe, SIEMENS AG, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa) Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax In-Reply-To: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu's message of 12 Sep 1994 17:15:24 GMT Message-ID: <SOWA.94Sep12162639@netcom5.netcom.com> Sender: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa) Organization: Wahoo 5 References: <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 23:26:38 GMT >>>>> "Jon" == Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> writes: Jon> Hi all, I have just obtained a ZyXEL modem and NXFax. A seemingly Jon> wonderful combination, with the exception of faxing TeX documents. Jon> I have been playing around trying to get them to come out nicely, Jon> but have had a notable lack of success. I have had success with exactly this setup. Are you using computer modern bitmaps generated at the correct resolution? (Look in the Preferences panel for TeXview and check the "Generate fonts as needed" radio button.) If you are scaling bitmaps from other resolutions, it will look awful. Of course, some people say computer modern looks awful at 200dpi even if it is done right. You could always try a Postscript font. -- Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: 3.3 Message-ID: <Cw1oMM.E3A@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <34k72f$1jh@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 01:34:44 GMT In article <34k72f$1jh@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > And unless NeXT comes to their senses: HIDEOUSLY UGLY icons > on the m68k version--and a lot of really nice artwork going > away, replaced with NOTHING. (This must be part of their > new strategy to attract Windoze users.) Yuck. Can you (or anybody) clue us in on just exactly what art is going away? --- ------------------------------------------------------------------- James P. Klett klett002@.maroon.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Learning about NS/I? Date: 13 Sep 1994 01:18:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <352ulf$lsk@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <11SEP199419490779@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> MCCOLLAM, DONALD E (citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu) wrote: : Hi. I run NS/Moto on my Cube. I've got a NS/I machine on order. I've : just realized I know nothing about NS/I. All my manuals (I've got the : NEXTSTEP 3.0 set) say nothing about NS/I. How does one learn about NS/I? : Does it come with it's own set of manuals? A user's guide? Is it in : the 3.2 on-line documentation somewhere? Etc. : Don : mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu Other than the details of installation and configuring a myriad of PC components (the PC world is not a nice one) there is not much different about NS/I as compared to NS/040. Well, there are the black NeXT keys (for powering on the machine, etc.) that don't appear on white hardware. As far as useage and programming, they are identical. The manuals for NS 3.2 are the same for both architectures. (OS/2 "Warp" and OS/2 for the PowerPC architecture probably won't be able to make such a claim. :^D Users will have to use the Intel version of Workplace to have such consistency, IMHO, and then they'll have appropriate hardware for NS/Intel. The only thing left is to whack them upside the head with a wisdom stick.) NextAnswers has Intel-specific configuration information that you'll need. (415)780-3990 for automated fax retrieval. Mail to nextanswers@next.com with the two-word subject:INDEX HELP over the net. If there are any specific questions that you have, I'll see what I can find out for you. jham@unlinfo.unl.edu -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 13 Sep 1994 04:33:16 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <353a2c$9u1@news.duke.edu> References: <3524ev$r9k@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Bill Edney writes > Unfortunately, I didn't compress the file, so I don't have control over > the compressing of it. Any chance compressing newer .sit files will be > incorporated into the next version of Opener.app? Denise? :-) :-) > > I guess for the short term I could try to have the folks who did the > compressing recompress it in .sit 1.5.1 format. I'll try that. I know next to nothing about Mac compression utilities, so let me quote my expert of reference, Rob Wyatt. This exact problem came up last May and he said: <begin quote> Anyway, I tried out the file you sent...And I couldn't open it either...My guess is that the file is stuffed with a newer version of StuffIt, one that the macunpack utility can't handle...I had this problem on occasion with other StuffIt files under Opener 3.1.2...The problem is that since these utilities are freeware, they aren't updated as frequently as the commercial apps like StuffIt. Under Opener 3.1.2, I found a number of .sit files that unsit couldn't handle...You might want to turn the macunpack code over to a programmer and see if he/she can update it to work with the latest version of StuffIt...Otherwise, we'll have to track down the author(s) of the macutil package and see if they are working on a new version... <end quote> So, if anybody knows of a newer version of macunpack available than v2.01b (4/26/92), perhaps it'll do the trick. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Login Window? Message-ID: <Cw1yAB.Gx5@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 05:08:35 GMT After installing NS3.2 FIP, I can boot up fine as ME. But I get no login window to allow me to start up as root. What am I doing wrong? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Casandra compiled for Intel 3.2? Message-ID: <Cw0LtD.DA@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <34thbp$ime@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:41:36 GMT In article <34thbp$ime@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) writes: > Has anyone compiled Casandra for the Intel 3.2 platform. My colleague > uses Casandra on his Black Box and really likes it. If anyone has a copy > that has been compiled, I would greatly appreciate it if you could mail me > a copy. It is my understanding the Casandra is freeware. If this is not > the case, please disregard this posting. Thanks in advance. I guess you mean Cassandra (?) You will find the sources on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.tar.gz. The Readme from Sept. 30, 1993 says: This is the source code for Cassandra. Due to job and time constraints, I'm no longer able to provide support for it and have decided to release the source code to the general public. I retain the copyrights for now, but if someone can repackage it under the GNU public license and contact me (jiro@shaman.dmll.cornell.edu), then I'll rerelease it as such. This product is no longer shareware, but if you want to make a contribution, send $10 to your local Planned Parenthood, Rape Crisis Center, public library, or zoo -- they're all underfunded and greatly needed. [...] Hope this helps, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener app fails with .sit file Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:04:15 GMT Organization: Wiltel Advanced Technology Group Distribution: usa Message-ID: <353tev$8cq@hal01.wiltel.com> References: <353a2c$9u1@news.duke.edu> Keywords: NETLand NeXT .sit stuffit (no harm meant) Hello, Well, I heard that the Alladin Systems people had not made the format to the 'newer than 1.5.1' available to the public. So unless someone revEng'ed it, I say we are just SOL. I have been hoping someone out in lala-netland had figured the format out. (holding breath now, turning blue even). Take care, -- Todd Nathan Object Analyst, WilTel Inc. Advanced Technology Group <Todd_Nathan@ATG.WilTel.Com> "The most compelling reason for choosing C++ is NOT" - Simon Says -
From: tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Alex Meyer of NMK fame Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:07:35 GMT Organization: Wiltel Advanced Technology Group Distribution: usa Message-ID: <353tl7$8cr@hal01.wiltel.com> Keywords: NMK NeXT Measurement Search Looking For Author Does anyone know how to get a hold of the author of NMK... This is a Thesis project which Alex Meyer <ameyer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> performed as a requirement to his graduation. I would like to talk to him. Please forward his phone # or new email address to me directly. Thanks. -- Todd Nathan Object Analyst, WilTel Inc. Advanced Technology Group <Todd_Nathan@ATG.WilTel.Com> "The most compelling reason for choosing C++ is
From: tnathan@wtg51 (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Login Window? Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:14:19 GMT Organization: Wiltel Advanced Technology Group Distribution: usa Message-ID: <353u1r$8ds@hal01.wiltel.com> References: <Cw1yAB.Gx5@eskimo.com> Keywords: Help Login Root Marc, The problem is likely that you need to establish a password for the 'me' account. Use the Preferences.app to do this, then logout, then back in and presto you should be presented with a login panel. NS checks 'me' and if it doesn't have a password assoc. with it, then it just logs you in as 'me'. Some would say a wanker feature, but good for people who don't know or want to know about UNIX. Regards, In article <Cw1yAB.Gx5@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > After installing NS3.2 FIP, I can boot up fine as ME. But I get no > login window to allow me to start up as root. What am I doing wrong? > > -- > >< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep >< > >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools >< -- Todd Nathan Object Analyst, WilTel Inc. Advanced Technology Group <Todd_Nathan@ATG.WilTel.Com> "The most compelling reason for choosing C++ is
From: a2833ae@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de (Peter Beham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp-0.3 on a NeXTstation? Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:09:01 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3544ot$8qa@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> I bought a ZyXEL 1496EG+ last week for my private NeXTstation and got the ppp-0.3-package. The thing I want to do with it is to dial into my office network, which is running ppp. After reading the INSTALL/README file, I thought, the chat command would be the thing I need. So I compiled chat.c, modified chatcmd to Serial Port B and started chatcmd. Result: nothing. the Modem didn`t even dial. Now I`m a bloody beginner in everything that has to do with modems, so it could be that I made some ridiculous fault like forgetting to press some button on the modem. Anyway, I would be grateful for any kind of hint. If there is another ppp-package that runs without any problems, please let me know as well. Peter Beham (a2833ae@next1.lrz-muenchen.de)
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <CRATH.94Sep13083014@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> Control: cancel <CRATH.94Sep13083014@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:30:48 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Sep13083048@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Software developers in San Diego? Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:31:25 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Sep13083125@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> I will be in San Deigo next week for the LISA conference. Are there any NEXTSTEP software developers there who wouldn't mind someone (me!) dropping in on them while I'm there? I will be driving up the coast to Mission Viejo this coming sunday, but spending the rest of the following week in San Diego itself. Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Freeware Image Viewing App needed for 030 NeXT running 1.0 Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:48:39 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <354737$6m6@netnews.upenn.edu> Folks, I am in need of a freeware GIF viewer for the original 68030 NeXT Cube. I tried ImageViewer, off a 68040 station, but the App does not run. Does anyone have a program that allows GIF views on old NeXTs? Or, maybe a conversion program that will convert a GIF to a NeXT 'supported' TIFF format? Any insights and directions will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Rimon Huque rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu huque@bart.kean.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Perl for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:18:26 GMT Hello, Sorry if this is a FAQ... I looked on the archives to find perl for NS/Intel but didn't find it. Does it exist, where ? Thanks Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland ajl@eqt.ch P.S. I'm no perl fan... But some previous developpers here left me some legacy software loaded with it on Solaris 4.1.3... :-(
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 13 Sep 1994 13:54:40 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <354av0$n74@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <SOWA.94Sep12162639@netcom5.netcom.com> Erik Sowa writes > > I have had success with exactly this setup. Are you using computer > modern bitmaps generated at the correct resolution? (Look in the > Preferences panel for TeXview and check the "Generate fonts as needed" > radio button.) If you are scaling bitmaps from other resolutions, it > will look awful. Of course, some people say computer modern looks awful > at 200dpi even if it is done right. You could always try a Postscript > font. > > -- > Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com) Mmmm, groan. Yeah, I was afraid the answer was going to be to try another font. I do have that radio button checked, but it is still pretty crummy. Maybe I'm one of those people who just thinks CM fonts look crummy at 200dpi. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 13 Sep 1994 13:55:15 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <354b03$n7e@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <SOWA.94Sep12162639@netcom5.netcom.com> Erik Sowa writes > I have had success with exactly this setup. Are you using computer > modern bitmaps generated at the correct resolution? (Look in the > Preferences panel for TeXview and check the "Generate fonts as needed" > radio button.) If you are scaling bitmaps from other resolutions, it > will look awful. Of course, some people say computer modern looks awful > at 200dpi even if it is done right. You could always try a Postscript > font. Mmmm, groan. Yeah, I was afraid the answer was going to be to try another font. I do have that radio button checked, but it is still pretty crummy. Maybe I'm one of those people who just thinks CM fonts look crummy at 200dpi. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 13 Sep 1994 13:56:29 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <354b2d$n83@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <SOWA.94Sep12162639@netcom5.netcom.com> Erik Sowa writes > I have had success with exactly this setup. Are you using computer > modern bitmaps generated at the correct resolution? (Look in the > Preferences panel for TeXview and check the "Generate fonts as needed" > radio button.) If you are scaling bitmaps from other resolutions, it > will look awful. Of course, some people say computer modern looks awful > at 200dpi even if it is done right. You could always try a Postscript > font. Mmmm, groan. Yeah, I was afraid the answer was going to be to try another font. I do have that radio button checked, but it is still pretty crummy. Maybe I'm one of those people who just thinks CM fonts look crummy at 200dpi. Although, it didn't look "bad" as in ugly, just bad as in hard to read. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Ranilla Pastor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanner Drivers Needed Message-ID: <1994Sep13.175125.1194@polar> Date: 13 Sep 94 17:51:25 +0100 Organization: Universidad de Oviedo Hello, I'm searching the drivers for the UMAX 360 Color Scanner. Anybody knows where i can found that driver?. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: NEXTSTEP Sybase DB-Library Version? Message-ID: <1994Sep13.153456.1536@afs.com> Keywords: Sybase Sender: mutz@afs.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:34:56 GMT Can someone please send me any information regarding the development of a Sybase client application for NEXTSTEP: Specifically-> What version of the Sybase Open Client Library (DB-Library) should we be compiling with in order for a NEXTSTEP-Intel client application to be compatible with a Sybase server (ver 4.92) running on a Sun Sparc-10 running SUNOS rel 4.1.3? Any advise or comments would be appreciated. - Greg --- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
From: harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob Harrap) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase References? Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:49:50 GMT Organization: Queens University, Dept. of Geological Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <354l7e$i0r@knot.queensu.ca> Hi: I'm going to be using Sybase as a server to Arc/Info, a high end GIS, starting in the near future. I'm new to UNIX-based RDBMS, ie I don't know anything about Sybase. Can someone please point me to a series of references on Sybase? Books, online docs etc are all of interest. If there is sufficient interest I will summarize and post to this group. Thanks in advance, Rob Harrap Queen's University Geological Sciences Harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Login Window? Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:13:13 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giRRqd_00iV1E5QiA5@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cw1yAB.Gx5@eskimo.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Sep-94 Login Window? by Marc Salvatori@eskimo.co > After installing NS3.2 FIP, I can boot up fine as ME. But I get no > login window to allow me to start up as root. What am I doing wrong? Give the 'me' account a password and you'll get the login panel. Alternatively, start up with (both?) buttons depressed and you'll get a login panel anyway.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Control: cancel <1994Sep9.180027.701@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <1994Sep13.173808.575@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Organization: Little to None Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:38:08 GMT <1994Sep9.180027.701@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> was cancelled from within trn.
From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Date: 13 Sep 1994 17:11:57 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <354mgt$3dq@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <Cw1oMM.E3A@news.cis.umn.edu> > > And unless NeXT comes to their senses: HIDEOUSLY UGLY icons > > on the m68k version--and a lot of really nice artwork going > > away, replaced with NOTHING. (This must be part of their > > new strategy to attract Windoze users.) Yuck. > > Can you (or anybody) clue us in on just exactly what art is going away? The black hardware icons (Terminal...) have been replaced with white equivalents. -- Dion Dock. Paradigm Systems \\||// --DOOM-- Unit Test, Axys project. //||\\ dion.dock@mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kimmik@cscns.com (K. M. Bayne) Subject: SEMINAR: Ventures in Software II Message-ID: <Cw2wGJ.JuJ@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:26:43 GMT [ Article crossposted from biz.general ] [ Author was K. M. Bayne ] [ Posted on Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:08:59 GMT ] NOVELL FEATURED AT "VENTURES IN SOFTWARE II" WORKSHOP COLORADO SPRINGS, CO -- The Colorado Springs Software Roundtable (CSSR) opens its third season with Ventures in Software II, a one-day workshop designed to introduce the software development community to business, legal and financial practices essential to the formation and growth of a successful software venture. Ventures in Software II will be held on Thursday, October 6 from 7:30 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the Red Lion Inn, 1775 East Cheyenne Mountain Blvd., Colorado Springs, CO 80906. Additional information 1. Telephone with a credit card (VISA, MasterCard, Discover) or company purchase order by calling the UCCS Continuing Education registration hotline: 719-593-9191 or 800-253-7538. 2. Email kimmik@bayne.com with subject line SEND VENTURES-SEMINAR Leave the body of the message blank.
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with Sound Cards (white) -- DESPERATE Date: 13 Sep 1994 18:06:39 GMT Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE Sender: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Distribution: world Message-ID: <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Adaptec, BusLogic, ProAudio, Spectrum, driver I'm writing out of frustration related to a unending problem I have had with a series of different configurations in the quest of a sound card that works correctly. I started out with a Pro Audio Basic-16 (the same card as a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, minus the SCSI interface [which isn't supported under NS 3.2 anyway]), an Adaptec 1542CF disk controller, and a VL-bus motherboard. Whenever I play sounds of high sampling rates (22,050Hz or higher) or long duration (longer than half a second say), I get a lot of break-up in the sound -- pauses, repeats, etc. An early NeXTanswers bulletin warned that the Adaptec was known to perturb the operation on the Spectrum-16 sound card. So, just a week ago, when NeXT announced that the higher performance BusLogic BT-445C VESA controller driver was released, I ran out (literally) and bought one. Well, after miscellaneous configuration problems (and much tweaking of the driver) the machine boots (but only from a Floppy -- can you believe it?). But I still have the problems with the sound card "breaking up" when I play continuous audio, even at 22,050 Hz. So, I think that it may be the sound card that is bogus (doesn't even have a FIFO on the DMA -- gah!), and not the disk controller. I was wondering if anyone else could confirm this, or has found a solution to this problem. I'm using VESA bus-master transfers on the disk controller (which should be *much* faster than ISA DMA), so I don't understand why the sound card would miss its interrupts or have a DMA underrun. Help! -Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: halkin@netcom.com (Hal Kinney) Subject: << Open Contract Position - Objective C NEXT >> agent sfsys Message-ID: <halkinCw2vrD.3u1@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:11:37 GMT Subject: << Programmer NEXT - Bay Area>> Agent sfsys Skills : NEXT Programmer with Objective C Minimum Industry : 2 years Experience (College Projects do "not" qualify). Location : San Francisco Start Date : ASAP Pay Rate : Market Length : 3 months ++ H1 Visa ok ? : NO Comments ; If you are strong with programming in the NEXT environment with Objective C ... FAX/email resume and/or let's talk. -- ~~~~~~~~~~ 20 years of Service and still growing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ San Francisco Systems, Inc. | Contact: Hal Kinney halkin@netcom.com 110 Sutter St. Suite 701 | Voice: 415.982.3500 San Francisco, Ca. 94104 | FAX: 415.982.6013 (high res. please)
From: marc@surfboy.ucsd.edu (Marcus S. Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener uncompressed? Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:48:19 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <354l4j$dn3@network.ucsd.edu> References: <3520ss$9en@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <3520ss$9en@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > In article <34vgjl$dgk@pith.uoregon.edu> fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick > Fogelson) writes: > > > I don't mean > > the .compressed or .tar extension that the OS can handle on its own, but > > the .tar.z or .tar.gz. Is there a command line command to unzip these > > things? > > How about /usr/bin/gunzip ? > > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu Most don't automatically get gunzip with their NeXTSTEP. You can yank the gunzip executable straight out of the Opener.app directory, and put it in /usr/bin to be accessible from the command line (alternatively link it, or set your search path to include the Opener.app directory). Hope that is useful. :) -M
From: lbeears@rain.org (Les Beears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP or PPP and MOSAIC? Date: 13 Sep 1994 11:22:26 -0700 Organization: RAIN Network Message-ID: <354ql2$7ip@rain.org>
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFF alpha channels Date: 13 Sep 1994 20:15:39 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <35519b$ivs@pith.uoregon.edu> Hello all, looking for a utility that will strip alpha channel (quick and dirty and lots of 'em *animation*) from TIFF images. Any ideas? Please send mail. smcgrew@theocean.
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP on NeXTStep Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:26:35 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <3555eb$i6f@news.iastate.edu> References: <CvxtCG.84u@news.cis.umn.edu> <34vgsv$qj1@news.tamu.edu> <34vlni$skq@anshar.shadow.net> <350lp1$l7h@news.iastate.edu> <350pqc$gsd@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench (lusty@lusty.tamu.edu) wrote: : In article <350lp1$l7h@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@helser54> wrote: : > : >I heard rumor that : >some people managed to write long document with PasteUp back in version : >1? Is that true? : The PasteUp version 2.5 documentation was done entirely in PasteUp. : Don't know if you consider that a "long" document--about 150 pages. : It is broken into separate files for each chapter, though, primarily : just for the ease of working with it. The WriteUp documentation is : also done using PasteUp. Now, this justify a lot of doubt about PasteUp. Way to go, AFS. : Lusty : -- : So fine she was, : so soft, so silky-coated- : Her very mew had quality! : -Jean de la Fontaine
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:37:49 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <35563d$i6f@news.iastate.edu> References: <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <kientzleCw1EpH.K8t@netcom.com> kientzle@netcom.com wrote: : In article <3522bc$36b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, : Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote: : >It seems to me that I ought to be able to send documents at : >a really high resolution and hence obtain nice results on the : >other end. I can't seem to change (what appears to be the) : >default setting of 200 dpi. : Keep in mind that Group 3 fax only supports 2 resolutions: low : resolution is 100dpi (vertical) by 200dpi (horizontal), high : resolution (also called `fine') is 200dpi both ways. I.e., 200dpi is : probably the best you can get. I believe both Group 4 and `PostScript : fax' allow for higher resolutions, but I don't think either of those : is widely supported right now. Did the new generation of Zyxel supports group 4? BTW, is the new generation of Zyxel out yet? Thanks Chris : - Tim Kientzle
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to undo ....tar.gz? Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:39:50 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <355676$i6f@news.iastate.edu> References: <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> <352c3u$brd@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote: : In article <3526lr$66i@redstone.interpath.net> : leslie@mercury.interpath.net (John B Leslie - Duke University Medical : Center - Anesthesiology) writes: : > New to the NeXT and too lazy to RTFM? What do I do after : > downloading a file stored as XXX.tar.gz? : /usr/bin/gunzip XXX.tar.gz : /bin/tar xvf XXX.tar Here is more stright-forward way which can save you disk space for expanding the gzipped file too. gnutar zxvf foo.tar.gz Chris : -- Todd Takken : takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: US ftp for latest compilers/assemblers/etc Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:20:54 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <355fl6$oj9@news.mic.ucla.edu> Keywords: C Compiler, libg++, gdb, as I have finally managed to ftp Robert Stahl's binary *NIH* files (from the site in Munich, Germany) and put them onto my personal NeXT machine. I will leave them in next.agsm.ucla.edu:/NIH.source/ -rw-r--r-- 1 ivo 961767 Sep 13 17:02 as-1.38.NIH.b.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 ivo 668137 Sep 13 17:00 libg++_for_3.2.NIH.ba.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 ivo 686755 Sep 13 16:58 gdb-4.7.NIH.b.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 ivo 10973706 Sep 13 16:56 cc-NeXT.2.5.8.NIH.ba.tar.gz for about one week, so that access in the US is faster and more reliable. Please download files ONLY between 9pm and 9am pacific time only---I need to work, too. (If people are unreasonable and log on during the day, I will take the files off public distribution.) I have not had a chance to unpack these files for myself, much less to try them. I have no idea about what is in them. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 14 Sep 1994 02:02:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <355lkb$8bp@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <354b2d$n83@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <354b2d$n83@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: > Mmmm, groan. Yeah, I was afraid the answer was going to be > to try another font. I do have that radio button checked, but > it is still pretty crummy. Maybe I'm one of those people who just > thinks CM fonts look crummy at 200dpi. Although, it didn't look > "bad" as in ugly, just bad as in hard to read. CM was designed for 1000 dpi phototypesetters; it looks quite nice on those, but doesn't very good on 300 dpi laser printers, much less 200 dpi faxes. A PostScript font like Palatino faxes quite nicely. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: fnyman@nova.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Terminal.app and ISO 8859-1 fonts Date: 13 Sep 1994 22:58:45 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <355ot5$n1q@nova.umd.edu> How do I get Terminal.app to display the ISO 8859-1 character set properly? It seems that Terminal.app is *not* using a different Display PostScript font encoding... Thanks, Fredrik -- Fredrik Nyman CACI 1120 G Street NW Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 "The Internet, for the uninitiated, is a collection of computer systems at universities, nonprofit research groups, the federal government, and some obscure businesses--all traditional hotbeds of hip, right?" SPY 8/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: How to undo ....tar.gz? Message-ID: <Cw3MD8.1vu@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <352c3u$brd@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 02:46:20 GMT Todd Takken writes > /usr/bin/gunzip XXX.tar.gz > /bin/tar xvf XXX.tar /usr/bin/gnutar xvzf - < XXX.tar.gz -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: Perl for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cw41oC.6Es@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 08:16:59 GMT In article <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: > Hello, > > Sorry if this is a FAQ... I looked on the archives to find perl for > NS/Intel but didn't find it. Does it exist, where ? > > Thanks > > Alexander Lamb > Expert Quantitative Trading > Geneva / Switzerland > ajl@eqt.ch > > P.S. I'm no perl fan... But some previous developpers here left me some > legacy software loaded with it on Solaris 4.1.3... :-( Thanks to Bill Woodward, Art Isbell, Jeff Trestrail. It can be found at : jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov under pub perl. and it should compile under NEXTSTEP using default 'next' and specifying 'short' as the type of uid_t and gid_t instead of 'unsigned short' then just 'make'... Alexander
From: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software Subject: booting without hard drive Date: 14 Sep 1994 09:24:14 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <356ffu$r60@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, this is a short summary what to do if your NSI NeXT does not boot from the hard drive any more. Thanks a lot to all the people who helped me, especially NeXT Germany!! My problem was: the (IDE) hard drive had been full 104% due to running renderman which produced a very big spool file. This file is not being automatically removed at reboot (the swapfile is!!) and so the NeXT would not want to boot because there was no space for the swapfile. Booting in single user mode (mach_kernel -s) did not help either. There are basically three solutions: 1) From NeXT Germany (Reimer Mellin): boot single user with extended flags: mach_kernel -sb this will mount the root dev read only (does not execute rc file), so you have to mount it rw by hand later on: /etc/mount -o remount,rw /dev/hd0a / The boot flags are explained in NeXTanswers Document 1085 (but I would not have understood that description...). Also, look at Document 1495!! This was the solution I took: easy, fast, no external things (SCSI drives, floppies, etc). Thanks, Reimer! GREAT!!! An alternative would be mach_kernel -sa and then you can interactively specify the root device. 2) Boot from a floppy: This is easy on black hardware, but on white HW the usual floppies only hold 1.44MB, which is not enough to store all the files necessary for booting. Fabien Roy pointed out that there is a possibility to make a SET of 2 boot disks for NSI. I got the necessary files and instructions from him and if he does not object I can NeXTmail them if you request them from me. You will have to swap floppies a lot by hand when you boot from floppy, but if there is no other alternative... Thanks a lot Fabien!! 3) Boot from CDROM/Installation disk: I was told by several people that i could boot single user from the little installation floppy. I tried, but I ended up in the installation script. I was courageous and continued until the CDROM was needed, then my kernel panicked because I don't have a SCSI board or CDROM attached to my system. Reimer Melin told me that you can copy the installation floppy with dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/image bs=64k and then back (probably with dd if=/tmp/image of=/dev/rfd0b bs=64k). Then you should be able to modify the rc script on the new floppy so that it does no longer access the CDROM/SCSI. I did not try that. Ted Allen suggested that you have to edit /usr/Dev/System.config/Default.table and change the Installmode to no, and the boot flags to "". You should then be able to boot the system in single user mode with -s, but you'll probably need to boot with rootdev= your full disk if you want to be able to use any commands in /bin or /usr/bin, such as rm or mount. I did not try that either. If you have a CDROM attached, you should be able to boot from that device. 4) The annoying way: If you cannot get the system up any other way, add your drive to an other NS/I system as a secondary disk and mount it. Then delete whatever you need to. 5) The drastic way: Reformat the disk and install NSI from scratch :-( Good luck with NeXT!! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-89/2394-4565 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-89/2394-4607 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University, Institute for Medical Optics Theoretical Biophysics Group, Room 230
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl for NEXTSTEP Date: 14 Sep 1994 08:56:50 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <356dsi$jqp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: <koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In article <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch>, Alexander Lamb <lamb@eqt.ch> wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry if this is a FAQ... I looked on the archives to find perl for >NS/Intel but didn't find it. Does it exist, where ? > >Thanks > >Alexander Lamb >Expert Quantitative Trading >Geneva / Switzerland >ajl@eqt.ch > >P.S. I'm no perl fan... But some previous developpers here left me some >legacy software loaded with it on Solaris 4.1.3... :-( Get your copy of perl5beta2a, untar it, and type (Configure -des ; make ; make test) >make.out 2>&1 & or something equivalent. Builds without a complaint. Don't forget a make install :) You get the most recent version in Europe from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/ports/perl5/perl5b2a.tar.gz (If perl5b2a has not arrived yet, wait a minute or two) Hope that helps, --andreas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Subject: Midi & Audio sequencer Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land) Message-ID: <Cw3A9u.2HA@musical.fdn.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 22:25:06 GMT Hi all, I'm looking for a good Midi & Audio sequencer for Black Hardware, able to handle up to four Midi out (4 X 16 channels) and two Midi In, I would like through out my Atari-ST/Cubase setup. Sam PS. E-mail reply are welcome. --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sam Przyswa << Rock'n Jazz BBS >> E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102 --<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Document Sotrage and Retreival Options Message-ID: <1994Sep14.044115.1176@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 04:41:15 GMT I am looking for options of Document Storage and retreival. Please let me know if you have any experiences with any of the NeXTSTEP stuff. Thanks WEs -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: PNI 1.11: TcL crashed after dialing .... Message-ID: <1994Sep14.065325.333@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 06:53:25 GMT Hi, After installing and configuring TransSys PNI 1.11 I tried to open a connection all the time I got some error messages from TcL interpreter: ***************************************************************************** Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: Device type is NeXT zs type hardware Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY_attach: port /dev/cufb succeeded at 38400 Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: Connecting for pni1 on /dev/cufb at 38400 bps Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: dialer debug 3 Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: source /etc/pni/support/dial-zyxel.tcl Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: Trying to call XXXXXXXX (XXX) Sep 14 00:41:36 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: dialer: Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing 314,20952 Sep 14 00:41:38 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: Modem firmware version is '24905 U1496E V 6.00 P' Sep 14 00:41:39 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: Dialing (pulse) XXXXXXXX ... Sep 14 00:42:26 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready Sep 14 00:42:26 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: Call to XXXXXXXX failed: Timeout waiting for modem to connect to XXXXXXXX Sep 14 00:42:26 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: Timeout waiting for modem to connect to 314,20952 \n while executing\n"error "Timeout waiting for modem to connect to $number... Sep 14 00:42:26 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: tty: link connect script fails Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: === TCL Error: Connect script failed to establish link: Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > TTY tty: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: === errorCode Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > NONE Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: === errorInfo Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > TTY tty: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > while executing Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > "error "[$encapName encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed"" Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > invoked from within Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > "if {$connected==0} { Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > ^Ierror "[$encapName encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed" Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > }" Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > (procedure "dialer_connect" line 52) Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > invoked from within Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: > "dialer_connect tty dialer" Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: === [end error dump] Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: tty: error 1 starting encapsulator (ERROR) Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: exiting due to "stop" command Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: stop pni going_down Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: PNI pni: stopped Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: stop slip going_down Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: SLIP slip: stopped Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: stop tty going_down Sep 14 00:42:27 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port Sep 14 00:42:28 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: UUCP-style lock for /dev/cufb released Sep 14 00:42:28 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: TTY tty: stopped Sep 14 00:42:28 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: LINK tty disconnected Sep 14 00:42:28 kurt pnid-pni1[1260]: exiting ***************************************************************************** Everytime it breaks in the dialing loop of dial-zyxel.tcl. My config-file: set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni1 set Config(pni:MTU) 1500 set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 192.109.42.153 set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) XXX.XXX.X.XXX set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0 set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 0 set Config(slip:MODE) slip set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufb set Config(tty:SPEED) 38400 set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) zyxel set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) XXX set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) YYY set Config(tty:NUMBER) XXXXXXXX set Config(YYY:DIALTYPE) PULSE stack PNI pni stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } I use only buildin scripts (dial-zyxel.tcl, etc.). Does anybody have an idea? Made I some wrong configurations? Thanx Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available |
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: screen fonts Date: 14 Sep 1994 13:52:20 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <356v6k$oqk@svin09.win.tue.nl> How does one change the screen font in the compose window of the Mail application if Non-Next is selected? I have Ohlfs, 10 pt., which is too small for me. The Font Panel doesn't work, I get a beep when I want to select a new font. I didn't find information about this in the user's guide. I would expect this to be possible using the preferences dialogue box, but it does not seem to have this option. More generally speaking, is there a consistent way of defining your preferred fonts and sizes for the windows in various applications? __________________________________________________ Malo Hautus Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Eindhoven University of Technology P.O. Box 513 5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 472628 | NeXT mail The Netherlands | Fax. +31 40 465995 | accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Login Window? Message-ID: <VFJSBH5D@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <giRRqd_00iV1E5QiA5@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:42:13 GMT Charles William Swiger wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Sep-94 Login Window? by >Marc Salvatori@eskimo.co >> After installing NS3.2 FIP, I can boot up fine as ME. But I get no >> login window to allow me to start up as root. What am I doing wrong? >Give the 'me' account a password and you'll get the login panel. >Alternatively, start up with (both?) buttons depressed and you'll get a >login panel anyway.... it should be enough, to logout from the me account and press the left mouse button, when the cursor moves to the upper left corner of the screen i.e. the windowserver is restarted. BTW: you get the autologin feature again, when you enter exit as a login name in the login panel i.e. the windowserver is restarted again. Ciao, Stephan -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ +--------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: Problems using GNU fileutils under NeXTSTEP3.2 Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Sep14100842@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:08:41 GMT I have tried to compile the GNU fileutils-3.9 on my NeXT running NeXTSTEP3.2 black. During the compile step I get the following warnings: > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/types.h:119: warning: useless keyword > or type name in empty declaration > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/types.h:120: warning: useless keyword > or type name in empty declaration when I test the executables, obviously certain numeric information is read incorrectly, for example: > % ./ls -l > total 3657451480 > -rw-r--r-- 1 6553600 15896412 779415620 Dec 31 1969 Makefile > -rw-r--r-- 1 6553600 15272509 779415651 Dec 31 1969 Makefile.in > -rwxr-xr-x 1 6553600 17254318 779415729 Dec 31 1969 chgrp* > -rw-r--r-- 1 6553600 15324938 779415747 Dec 31 1969 chgrp.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 6553600 15901655 779415728 Dec 31 1969 chgrp.o > -rwxr-xr-x 1 6553600 17967349 779415738 Dec 31 1969 chmod* My guess is the wrong include file is being used. Has anyone gotten the GNU fileutils-3.9 to compile and work correctly under NeXTSTEP? Email me with your advice and solutions. Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL:919-541-3473, FAX:919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA -- Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL:919-541-3473, FAX:919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA
From: mauro@rolle.usr.dsi.unimi.it (Mauro de Gregori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Screen Machine II Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:51:50 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <35766m$f43@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> I'm using a Screen Machine II board on a PC 486 running NextStep 3.2 Is there someone that use this board and has informations about software running on it? Are there places where i can find software and information about it. Thanks Mauro
Control: cancel <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Message-ID: <1994Sep14.152743.10272@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:27:43 GMT References: <1994Sep9.082832.26241@free.fdn.org> <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need HELP with SoftPC. Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:30:07 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <9409141728.AA12620@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Originator: daemon@julian.uwo.ca I am trying to reinstall SoftPC on my NeXT. After a disk crash(my fault) over a year ago, I decided not to reinstall SoftPC. Now that I have decided to install it, I won't let me. It says the files are named wrong, since it is on DOS floppies the file extension for the .pkg files are shortened. I moved the SoftPC.pkg to my harddrive and renamed the extensions with the full name. Now it will say that it can't find files that are there and says that some associated files are missing. Could someone help me with this problem or could someone tell me where I can ftp a working SoftPC.pkg file. Thanks. Greg Gee. **************************************************************************** Greg Gee The G-Man Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< ****************************************************************************
From: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Cards (white) -- SOLVED? Date: 14 Sep 1994 18:30:31 GMT Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE Distribution: world Message-ID: <357fg7$664@enst.enst.fr> References: <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Adaptec, BusLogic, ProAudio, Spectrum, driver Well, I get several answers fairly quickly from the network. One person proposed that my VESA motherboard was flakey. That may well be, but I don't think that was the problem, since it works now anyway. Another person told me that there was a patch that needed to be applied to the Adaptec driver in AHAThread.m to make it work. This is also fairly possibly, and if anyone knows what this patch is, I'm still interested in seeing it. After a system crash he lost the sources, however. Anyone care to post the patch if they have it tucked away somewhere? *But* the best clue I got was from Juergen Moellenhoff who pointed out that line 233 of the ProAudioSpectrum.m file should divide the transfer count by two when the transfer mode is IO_16BitWordCount and *not* IO_16BitByteCount. So that fixed that. Can anyone at NeXT confirm this bug? Thanks to everyone that responded. -Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Orrin C. Kerr) Subject: Preview problems with FrameMaker under NeXT Message-ID: <Cw4yE2.H8p@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 20:03:38 GMT We are running FrameMaker under NeXTSTEP v. 3.2. A couple of my users cannot get Preview to work. If they log onto another station, the problem persists. If I log onto their workstations and run Frame, I can use the Preview function without problem. I checked that this situation held even if we are looking at the same document. Preview works for them in other applications. But when called from the print option under Frame, Preview launches but only shows a blank page. So, I must conclude that: [1] It isn't something in the document. [2] It isn't something wrong with the workstation configuration. [3] It isn't something wrong with Framemaker. (we are running a network app with a floating multi-user license) [4] Therefore it must be something that they have done to the configuration in their own account. Now I'm at a standstill. The on-line help gives no clues, and I am no FrameMaker guru. Help! MTIA Orrin Kerr -- Orrin C. Kerr ad244@freenet.carleton.ca All opinions expressed are my own and not the responsibility of my innocent employer (who shall remain nameless)(but it's gummint).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Sep14.203956.23836@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 20:39:56 GMT Does anyone know of a public domain program that will allow terminal emulation with dialup capabilities so that I can dial up a bbs or whatever and connect with vt100 emulation. I'm using a demo version of TipTop but it only works for 13 minutes at a time and the real version costs $260cdn which is not very reasonable (IMHO). Is there anything I can do with the software that came with the NeXT (NeXT Station 040 with NS 3.2) or Kermit? I would like to be able to do X or Zmodem transfers Also, where can I find information on how to setup a slip connection? Thanks, Greg
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTeX and NXFax Date: 14 Sep 1994 22:02:55 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <357ruf$qce@news.iastate.edu> References: <355lkb$8bp@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes > In article <354b2d$n83@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) > writes: > > > Mmmm, groan. Yeah, I was afraid the answer was going to be > > to try another font. I do have that radio button checked, but > > it is still pretty crummy. Maybe I'm one of those people who just > > thinks CM fonts look crummy at 200dpi. Although, it didn't look > > "bad" as in ugly, just bad as in hard to read. > > CM was designed for 1000 dpi phototypesetters; it looks quite nice on those, > but doesn't very good on 300 dpi laser printers, much less 200 dpi faxes. > A PostScript font like Palatino faxes quite nicely. > Another possibility, if your document has mathematics in it (which is usually why people use TeX :) is to get the Lucida Bright postscript fonts. These Type 1 PS fonts are a complete replacement for Computer Modern, with matching math, calligraohy, etc. fonts (the package also includes a set of "FAX fonts" which are specifically tuned to look good at 200 dpi). The LB fonts look much better under FAXing than CM fonts. The full package, educational price, is about $100, and you can write to me for information on how to get them. Hope this helps --- Tom -- ========================================================================== = Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: GatorFTP and informatik problem?!? Message-ID: <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 22:58:59 GMT Has anyone else experienced this lately? When I GatorFTP to informatik everything comes up ok untill i get down to the platforms directory, then all i see is one directory for 'pc' apps. I cannot get anything up for next or any of the others. Is this a Gator problem?? I'm using version 2.0 72.3 --- ------------------------------------------------------------------- James P. Klett klett002@.maroon.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GatorFTP and informatik problem?!? Date: 15 Sep 1994 01:06:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3586me$dpr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: >Has anyone else experienced this lately? >When I GatorFTP to informatik everything comes up ok untill i >get down to the platforms directory, then all i see is one directory >for 'pc' apps. I cannot get anything up for next or any of the others. > >Is this a Gator problem?? > It looks to me like GatorFTP is not following the links to the next, et al directories. -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
From: ravine@jnext.ucsd.edu (Michael Ravine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTime Date: 15 Sep 1994 00:05:47 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <35834r$j6g@network.ucsd.edu> Can anybody provide me with a pointer to information about NeXTTime? After cruising all the Net sources I could think of, all I found was a few references to post-Expo demos of it at a couple of user groups. Is it real? Is it available? Is it worth anything?
From: lbeears@rain.org (Les Beears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP or PPP and MOSAIC? Date: 14 Sep 1994 22:45:20 -0700 Organization: RAIN Network Message-ID: <358n1g$h9@rain.org> References: <354ql2$7ip@rain.org> Hmmmm seems like the text of the message got lost.. Well the question was does anyone know of a good source of SLIP or PPP software for NeXT(Intel). Most of what I have found is for the 680xx. Is MOSAIC available for NexT of is OmniWeb it? Sure hope this message makes it. Les Les Beears (lbeears@rain.org) wrote:
From: sah@codex.oz.au (Sean Hiscock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Oracle V6 running under 3.2! HELP! Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:44:10 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <358u0a$hg4@yarrina.connect.com.au> Hi Oracle/NeXT gurus! I have been trying to install Oracle V6 for NeXT on a NeXT cube running 3.2 of the OS. The RDBMS works fine on the server and I can connect to it through the server process orasrv (SQLNet TCP/IP). None of the client machines (also running 3.2) can establish a connection. I have tried use the tcpctl utility to check on the server but it can't get a connnection either! The orasrv log does not contain any evidience of a connection from the client machines. Does anyone out there have any similar experiences? Any answers? Any thing? Regards, Sean. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean Hiscock Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Melbourne, Australia Phone : +61 3 696 2490 Fax : +61 3 696 6757 Internet : (NeXTMail welcome) sah@xedoc.com.au
From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-Audio to NeXT-snd exist ??? Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:57:28 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Keywords: CD,AUDIO Is there a program, which read AudioCD into the NeXT as sndfiles ? All I found was a message for Jan94: In article <1994Jan20.200613.437@elin-ekt.co.at> Karl Prager (spock!charlie) wrote: :>In article <9401141905.AA13378@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd :>Knops) writes: :>> Since many people asked for that, I finally decided to write an App, :>> that enables you to read sound data from an AudioCD and store it in :>> the NeXT .snd format ... ... ... :>(cut) Has this Software been released somewhere. ? mfg Winfried Ritschicle <1994Jan20.200613.437@elin-ekt.co.at> Karl Prager (spock!charlie) wrote: :>In article <9401141905.AA13378@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd :>Knops) writes: :>> Since many people asked for that, I finally decided to write an App, :>> that enables you to read sound data from an AudioCD and store it in :>> the NeXT .snd format ... ... ... :>(cut) Has this Software bee
From: lss@katrine.cs.stir.ac.uk (Dr L S Smith (Staff)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hard paging when Edit'ing .rtf files Date: 15 Sep 1994 08:18:58 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <35901i$lkv@lorne.stir.ac.uk> Is there any way to get a hard page break when Edit'ing an .rtf or rtfd file? (Apart from re-editting it with another editor and inserting a \page...Ugh) Leslie Smith Computing Science, University of Stirling.
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 12:15:37 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi - All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that we're all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. Is it just myself who has noticed this? C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: ckminer@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Chris Miner) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 15 Sep 1994 12:58:30 GMT Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College Message-ID: <359gdm$jfd@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> <pcallies.147.0026D7FF@csc.com> <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> In article <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: >Peter Callies (pcallies@csc.com) wrote: >: In article <1994Sep4.051119.18227@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: >: >> PowerBuilder fanatic with weak thesis... >: > NextStep fanatic hitting his head against the wall... >:[Agreement on importance of modeleing business ] >:[difficult to get BTG (Business Type Guys) to spend money on right tech ] >:[Need mgmt support] > [Stuff deleteted] > >It's the same way at my company. I don't think it has anything to do >with being in the Fortune 500. If you need fast results to get a >commitment, get a platform that aids rapid applications development. >PB is good for throwing together cheap stuff for Windows that could >fool most managers. > >NextStep is good for rapidly developing robust Enterprise quality >applications with a decent amount of code-reuse. It also has a long >list of other advantages, available upon request from your nearest >NextStep spiritual leader. ;-) > >Personally, I think that NextStep Developer is a better toolset and >the OS is a better environment. PB gets the advantage of cheap client >machines, at the cost of frequent rebooting, which is a selling point >to most managers who prefer the bottom-line to the strategic >advantage. > >This sounds bitter, doesn't it? Not at all. The fact is that a BTG with alittle tech knowledge is always going to be percieved as more savey than the Techie with alot of business knowledge. When a BTG sees a demo the think they see reality. This is the problem, a BTG isn't going to buy into what they don't understand. However, this thread has gone along way in helping me develop convincing arguments for a non PB style strategy. Now the trick is to get a convincing story on the business modeling object layer. > >Pohl c/o jham@unlinfo.unl.edu > >: * All views expressed are my own unless expressly stated otherwise. >: ******************************************************************* >-- >Jonathan Ham >jham@unlinfo.unl.edu >%> rm cute.sig
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any MPEG viewer? Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:23:05 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <359hrp$pj0@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi - Wondering if anybody knows of a MPEG viewer for NS 3.2/I. Thanks. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: ckminer@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Chris Miner) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:15:37 GMT Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College Message-ID: <359hdp$rsg@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <pcallies.147.0026D7FF@csc.com> <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> <1994Sep10.101926.392@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Sep10.101926.392@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: >In article <34qru5$ich@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: >> >>NextStep is good for rapidly developing robust Enterprise quality >>applications with a decent amount of code-reuse. > >Surely these two goals are mutually exclusive? Because NS is so good for >rapid prototyping it encourages the quick hack approach. This doesn't work >for large applications. > Dave, This just isn't true. The organizations with the shortest development time for a real application on a consistant basis are the ones with a high process maturity. So my counter point is quick code development doesn't imply a hack. (ie rapid and robust are not mutually exclusive) >As for code-reuse, I think this is largely a myth. Through cut and paste maybe. >Project Builder doesn't even have a "Library" type, surely a pretty basic >requisite. No ability to build shared libraries either. > >Code-reuse mainly comes down to a state of mind. If you're determined to >achieve it, you'll do it in whatever language. It doesn't happen automatically >(look at the original NeXT Examples and show me the reusable objects:) and in >fact subclassing may even be counter-productive. But that's another story. Code reuse is a state of a piece of produced software, not a state of mind. Not everyone is diciplined in their approach of desinging and implementing with the big picture in mind. Often under pressure humans tend to physically rather than mentally scramble. At these times it helps to have a langugage guide them in the right general direction by tending to make good implementations easier than bad. This is where a language which supports the abstractions of the object model comes in handy. Any program we write is one implementation of some abstract rational thought. Your right, I can do code reuse in any language. Other people are right when they say OO can be done in any langugage. These statements miss the point. Languages are not only the means by which we express our thoughts, they are the tool by which those thoughts are shaped. For a concrete example, no one would give up the usefull and conciecly expressed concept of addition of integers provided by most langugages, just because they could express the same cocept with a different language (ie logic). chris
From: nazgul@utopia.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with Digital Ears Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:08:41 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <359ria$f26@sundog.tiac.net> Summary: Need help with data controller object for Digital Ears I have a friend who is attempting to use (with some time urgency) Digital Ears on an black NeXT box. He's having trouble using the data controller object and would greatly appreciate it if someone could help him out asap, the DE people apparently being out of town for a few days. Please reply to him, at tony@wildfire.com. Many thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Need HELP with SoftPC. Message-ID: <1994Sep15.152759.11131@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <9409141728.AA12620@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:27:59 GMT In article <9409141728.AA12620@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> writes: > > I am trying to reinstall SoftPC on my NeXT. After > a disk crash(my fault) over a year ago, I decided not > to reinstall SoftPC. Now that I have decided to install > it, I won't let me. It says the files are named wrong, > since it is on DOS floppies the file extension for > the .pkg files are shortened. I moved the SoftPC.pkg > to my harddrive and renamed the extensions with the full > name. Now it will say that it can't find files that > are there and says that some associated files are missing. > > Could someone help me with this problem or could someone > tell me where I can ftp a working SoftPC.pkg file. > > Thanks. > Greg Gee. > ************************************************************************** ** > Greg Gee The G-Man > Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca > University of Western Ontario NeXT Mail accepted > >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< > ************************************************************************** ** I think you will need to change the name and some files content in the package folder also (opens as folder menu). Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant, SYBASE DBA XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: tx70104@sun3.lrz-muenchen.de () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Physics World 4.1 Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:50:31 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <35a1h7$hnd@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <CvF0Fv.6G4@crash.cts.com> Keywords: Physics root@avus (Operator) writes: >I have just d/l a copy of Physicsworld 4.1 and tried to load it on my >black hardware. It seems to load up and open up the windows and then just >dumps out. I am running version 3.2, and have plenty of memory, and it >seems the author did not leave an email address in the nibs. Can anyone >help? With NS3.0, PhysicsWorld was running fine - if I remember right ... But with NS3.2, I have the same difficulties you described. It's really a nice app, but seems to be useless under NS3.2 unless the auther would recompile it ... Matthias Rosenberger email: tx70104@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is the WWW server for NS/FIP Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:07:00 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <359uvk$kbb@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hi, there Our User Group is interesting with building a WWW server and wnat to do it on PC running NeXTSTEP/FIP, if anybody could tell me where to find the WWW server program? Regards, Mark
From: begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 10:41:19 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <35a0vv$172@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> In article <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: >Hi - > >All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that we're >all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a >burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. Yes, it's been 2 months since a release of a newer version. You've answered your own question (ie, "[they're] busy people with tons of projects") as to why this would be. Why is it, that when someone or some company writes a cool app that they are making available for FREE to the community people expect this someone or some company to provide the same kind of regular updates and customer service as if they'd paid for the app AND get bent out of shape when it doesn't happen? -- Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.'' Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080 e-mail: sjkb@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
From: phickey@octel.com (Patrick T. Hickey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:45:01 GMT Organization: Octel Communications Corp. Distribution: world Message-ID: <359mld$gpt@info.eng.octel.com> References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> In article <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) writes: > Hi - > > All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. I dunno. I received a copy of OmniWeb 0.7.5 (Beta) for some serious thrashing thru our proxy server just Monday of this week. It works like a charm, I might add. Those of you confronting the hideous proxy devices can rest easy, the folks at OmniWeb have it covered. Quiet? Guess it depends what you're seeking? cheers patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Where is the WWW server for NS/FIP Message-ID: <Cw6nvG.3uL@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <359uvk$kbb@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 18:11:39 GMT Lin Yi-chih (mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw) wrote: : Hi, there : Our User Group is interesting with building a WWW server and wnat : to do it on PC running NeXTSTEP/FIP, if anybody could tell : me where to find the WWW server program? : Regards, : Mark I would suggest getting the HTTPD1.3 server from NCSA. It compiles straight out of the box on NS (no warnings or anything) under 3.2 and is very simple to set up. I have been extremely pleased using it- not a single crash yet!. Plexus is another server available, but I've heard that it is a little rough to set up. later jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jeff@teal.csn.org (Jeffrey Adams) Subject: Re: Problems with Physics World 4.1 Message-ID: <jeff.779655203@teal> Keywords: Physics Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <CvF0Fv.6G4@crash.cts.com> <35a1h7$hnd@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 18:53:23 GMT tx70104@sun3.lrz-muenchen.de () writes: >root@avus (Operator) writes: >>I have just d/l a copy of Physicsworld 4.1 and tried to load it on my >>black hardware. It seems to load up and open up the windows and then just >>dumps out. I am running version 3.2, and have plenty of memory, and it >>seems the author did not leave an email address in the nibs. Can anyone >>help? >With NS3.0, PhysicsWorld was running fine - if I remember right ... >But with NS3.2, I have the same difficulties you described. >It's really a nice app, but seems to be useless under NS3.2 unless >the auther would recompile it ... >Matthias Rosenberger >email: tx70104@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de Hello, I guess I would be considered the original "author" of PhysicsWorld. The real "author" is Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. I wrote the app when I was there, and when I left others have taken over the project. The latest version will always be found at ftp.rose-hulman.edu in the IFYC directory. Regarding the problems with NEXTSTEP 3.2, I have a copy that works under NEXTSTEP 3.2 and I think it is the same version pulled from the ftp.rose-hulman.edu archive. Unless I do not have the latest version... According to my Info panel, it is version 5.1 I really do miss working on this application. I hope they treat it well. Jeff Adams jeff@tiag.com NeXTMail accepted
From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 15 Sep 1994 15:04:35 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <359nq3$3uc@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Now that I've got a SLIP provider, I'm dusting off Teleconnect V1.0 to work on NEXTSTEP. I seem to remember a patch needed to get the thing working. Can someone help? Thanks - Mark
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:04:51 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <35a5sj$70a@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) writes: > All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know > that we're all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, > etc), but after a burst of development work on OW, all seems to > have gone quiet. So, what's your point? It's free, and they might want to concentrate on the projects that are bringing in money for awhile. I'd think that anyone who is confused by this is more than welcome to spend their own time writing software and making it available for free to everyone on the net. And when you do, be sure to keep those updates to the free software coming on a regular basis. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 94 19:11:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jbn.779656281@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> <35a0vv$172@zebu.abstractsoft.com> Charles Ashley asked >All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that we're >all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a >burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. >Is it just myself who has noticed this? I've noticed it too. It's still a cool app. Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush responded: >Yes, it's been 2 months since a release of a newer version. You've >answered your own question (ie, "[they're] busy people with tons of >projects") as to why this would be. Sounds logical to me. Or maybe they've got something really big coming up for OmniWeb that takes a lot of time to do right. Whatever the case, I agree that it's nice that this app is free. >Why is it, that when someone or some company writes a cool app that >they are making available for FREE to the community people expect this >someone or some company to provide the same kind of regular updates >and customer service as if they'd paid for the app AND get bent out of >shape when it doesn't happen? I don't think anyone is getting upset about the lack of an update or expecting regular updates, it sounds to me like Charles Ashley asked a question without hostility or ill will. -- Do not try to respond to this message in e-mail, it will never get here.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: New problems with Tailor !! Message-ID: <Cw2v89.B7@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:00:08 GMT Hi y'all, I previewed a Virtuoso file using color separation. Tailor kind of hanged. It didn't really hanged but it took most of processor time for minutes and for nothing. I have a Pentium 90, 48MB of RAM and 2GB of disk. So it seems like the problem is really Tailor. Previewing the same image but using the composite option worked fine in no time. But for any Virtuoso file I tried it with, whenever I turned the separation (color) on, I had to kill Tailor from Terminal (For some unknow reason, Workspace was very slow too and I wasn't able to kill Tailor from there. It just took way too long when in Terminal, it worked almost as normal). Now, I don't know what happens with Tailor in this case because Preview.app was perfectly able to do this without any problems. Anyhow, Tailor is still the best product around... Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:18:20 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> In article <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) writes: > Hi - > > All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that we're > all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a > burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. > > Is it just myself who has noticed this? It's true that we haven't been putting out any new OmniWeb releases lately, but in fact, we have one guy working full-time on OmniWeb at the moment, which you couldn't say at any other point in the development process up to now. Meanwhile all of us that were doing part-time work on OmniWeb are coming up on a deadline in our biggest consulting project (gotta make money somehow...), and don't have many spare hours leftover for OmniWeb development (and what we do have is going to Doom 2 right now). This is actually a good thing as far as OmniWeb is concerned. Our one full-time OmniWeb guy is concentrating on cleanup and fixing all those little bugs that people have been complaining about from time immemorial while he has a chance to get at the code without the rest of us making changes. Once that's done (and it's pretty close) we'll probably put out a maintenance release that won't have much changed functionality, but should be cleaner and more stable. We'll also have a much more stable code base to bring in the new cool UI for the bookmark editing / URL browsing / et cetera we've been planning for a while. OmniWeb hasn't been forgotten, it's just shifting gears from cool hack app towards (hopefully) cool product. --Greg (Disclaimer: I don't speak for Omni, this is my personal impression of where we're going.) ----------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GatorFTP and informatik problem?!? Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:29:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <35aaqc$m9e@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3586me$dpr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> In article <3586me$dpr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: > In article <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: > >Has anyone else experienced this lately? > >When I GatorFTP to informatik everything comes up ok untill i > >get down to the platforms directory, then all i see is one directory > >for 'pc' apps. I cannot get anything up for next or any of the others. > > > >Is this a Gator problem?? > > > > It looks to me like GatorFTP is not following the links > to the next, et al directories. One possible fix for this situation is to put the following entry in your comment entry for ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: :Directory: /pub/comp/platforms/next This only works with the latest version of GatorFTP (which I believe is ver 1.7). It takes you directly to the specified directory. -jamey.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:39:01 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <35alul$glt@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <35a0vv$172@zebu.abstractsoft.com> begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) writes: > charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: > >All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. [etc] > Why is it, that when someone or some company writes a cool app that > they are making available for FREE to the community people expect this > someone or some company to provide the same kind of regular updates > and customer service as if they'd paid for the app AND get bent out of > shape when it doesn't happen? The original article didn't sound like the person was bent out of shape about anything. However, the above reply is a pretty impressive run-on sentance... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: chris@helser54 (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Domain wasn't added Tin 1.22? Date: 16 Sep 1994 01:34:11 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <35asmj$6nh@news.iastate.edu> I'm told that my post by tin 1.22 I got from ftp.cs.orst.edu doesn't add the domain information from /etc/resolv.conf to the poster's e-mail address. Is that a bug in general on NeXTSTEP? Thanks for any response. Chris
From: vamp@csulb.edu (VampLestat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: compiling wu-ftp on NS 3.2 Date: 16 Sep 1994 04:31:41 GMT Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding. Message-ID: <35b73d$t05@garuda.csulb.edu> I'm having trouble compiling the WU version of the ftpd under NeXTstep despite the fact that the build comes with NS2.* and 3.* makefiles. I've tried a few tweaks to the make file, but it appears to choak due to conflicting headers. Has anyone managed to compile the wuftpd under NS3? Suggestions? Here's where it dies: Making support library. cc -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused -c getusershell.c ../src/config.h:37: warning: could not use precompiled header '/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.p', because: ../src/config.h:37: warning: header 'arpa/inet.h' overridden, ../src/config.h:37: warning: /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h vs. /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/arpa/inet.h (within the precomp) In file included from ../src/config.h:37, from getusershell.c:25: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.h:178: conflicting types for `inet_addr' /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h:75: previous declaration of `inet_addr' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.h:204: conflicting types for `inet_network' /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h:80: previous declaration of `inet_network' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.h:206: conflicting types for `inet_makeaddr' /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h:78: previous declaration of `inet_makeaddr' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.h:207: conflicting types for `inet_lnaof' /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h:77: previous declaration of `inet_lnaof' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.h:208: conflicting types for `inet_netof' /usr/local/include/arpa/inet.h:79: previous declaration of `inet_netof' *** Exit 1 Stop. -- ___ /\__\ Ryan L. Watkins email: vamp@csulb.edu \/__/ Academic Computing Services url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/ NeXTstep California State University at Long Beach --- Network Support
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:49:10 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35b136$96p@anshar.shadow.net> References: <1994Sep14.203956.23836@sol.UVic.CA> Greg Toews (gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA) wrote: : Does anyone know of a public domain program that will allow : terminal emulation with dialup capabilities so that I can dial : up a bbs or whatever and connect with vt100 emulation. Try Microphone Pro from Software Ventures. It is now available as a FAT-binary, and is feature competitive with Procomm, Crosstalk, etc.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:55:22 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35b1eq$991@anshar.shadow.net> References: <1994Sep14.203956.23836@sol.UVic.CA> <35b136$96p@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : Greg Toews (gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA) wrote: : : Does anyone know of a public domain program that will allow : : terminal emulation with dialup capabilities so that I can dial : : up a bbs or whatever and connect with vt100 emulation. : Try Microphone Pro from Software Ventures. It is now available as a : FAT-binary, and is feature competitive with Procomm, Crosstalk, etc. Oops! Microphone Pro is commercial software (well worth the price). I don't know of any PD apps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: WavesWorld 2.0 beta coming - a few questions first Message-ID: <1994Sep16.072318.26789@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 07:23:18 GMT Hi folks. This is a pre-announcement of the 2.0 beta release of some of my WavesWorld IB palettes; namely WWTCLWidgets and WW3D. For those of you who don't know, WWTCLWidgets integrates the popular embeddable scripting language tcl seamlessly into NEXTSTEP's InterfaceBuilder, and WW3D extends NeXT's support of Pixar's RenderMan to the object level, providing an object framework for doing sophisticated time-based animation, along with a high-level of integration with the WWTCLWidgets, which provides very sophisticated tools for packaging up 3D behavioral models. Anyway, I have something I'm almost ready to release, and there are very few bugs in it, none of which are fatal, just annoying. (Given that there's over 1.5MB of source code and over 130 classes involved, I'm actually amazed how few bugs there are, but that's what beta is for, right?) I'm actually really excited to get this in everybody's hands, but a few questions first, which will help me focus the final bits of documentation I'm preparing for beta: - Do you care about QuickTime/NEXTIME support, or is just being able to spit out a directory of TIFFs (i.e. an .anim file) enough? - Do you ever click on the "?" on the WW3DWell Control Panel and read any of those useful panels of text, like the tcl cheat sheet, or the "late breaking news?" - Do you have any RIB files you want to use with this stuff? Do you use some particular application to generate them? What, and on what platform? - Are you interested in writing shaders? Is shader source code interesting to you? - Are you only interested in the tcl stuff? If so, what do you plan to use it for? - Are you interested in animation? To do what? - Do you have a specific project in mind for what you want to use this software for? If so, what is it? - Are you interested in pointers to literature or commercial products related to this stuff - i.e. modelers, commercial shaders, etc. even on other platforms? - Are you interested in extending portions of the WWTCLWidgets or WW3DKit? Do you want some ideas of some cool objects you could write that would play nice with my stuff? Basically, I'm trying to get an idea of what my audience is thinking, so I can slant the small amount of doc to them. Your speedy reply is appreciated. Also, I maintain a mailing list for people interested in this software. This list is assumed to be NEXTMail compatible, although I will only send something that way if absolutely necessary. It's a pretty low volume list; let me know if you want to be on it. Thanks. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Message-ID: <2958@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 16 Sep 94 08:02:48 GMT References: <1994Sep14.203956.23836@sol.UVic.CA> <35b136$96p@anshar.shadow.net> <35b1eq$991@anshar.shadow.net> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). Terminal & kermit work just fine for me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: A.Leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene) Subject: Re: The 7th Guest & 11th Hour Message-ID: <1994Sep16.093546.28060@news.research.ptt.nl> Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News) Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands References: <3528ti$4fo@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:35:46 GMT In article <3528ti$4fo@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Additionally, I'd love to get some info on how NS was used to develop T7G > & T11H. > I think there is an NS-application to develop CDi's. Arnaud (A.Leene@research.ptt.nl)
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:24:35 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35bdn3$8rt@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <YiRArSK00iUz0_rypx@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger writes: >Hell, yes! Tell us when you want us NEXTSTEP people to pay ID the >shareware fee and you'll have my money sent within the day. Actually, Omni will be marketing Doom 2 for NEXTSTEP. Doom 2 isn't shareware, it's commercial. We'll also be releasing a shareware version with the original shareware wad. Both will be essentially the same core app; both will support sound and be tri-fat. We're also doing final development of Doom 2 for NEXTSTEP; mostly cosmetic stuff, although we did add sound support, and will be making the new Interceptor support a little richer. >(Some things are way too cool to not support, and Doom running under >NEXTSTEP falls into that category, IMHO.) I'll let you know when you can call our 800 number and place your order. -Wil Shipley Omni Development, Inc.
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:28:47 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35bduv$8sr@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep12.174933.3964@il.us.swissbank.com> ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) writes: >Put another >way, the engine in Doom II will be available to original Doom owners. Yup. >So, for the sound support, did you create a wavetable-like playback server with >a subset (or all) of the GM samples and patches that Doom uses, or did you >create an FM emulator? Music support isn't in there, and probably won't be, because it'd be a huge CPU suck. The sound effects were just digital sound files, in a slightly strange format but easily converted to 22Khz linear. >Hey ID, how about continuing the tradition of NS users as beta-testers. I >would love to get my hands on Doom II before the rest of the Doom community >:-). Yup, it's pretty darn neat. Especially level 14. Whoo-wee!
From: m94dwa@matar.tdb.uu.se (David Wallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scheme for NSfIP 3.2? Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:06:46 GMT Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala University, Sweden Message-ID: <35bu86$15he@columba.udac.uu.se> I am looking for a Scheme compiler/interpreter for NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.2 I have tried to compile Schematik version 1.1.5.2 but it seems to be NeXT hardware only... Any ideas where to look, I don't necessarily have to have Schematik, I guess any Scheme will work. sincerely, David Wallin. m94dwa@student.tdb.uu.se
From: nv90-mwe@hemul.nada.kth.se (Martin Wennerberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FiCAD Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:42:15 GMT Message-ID: <35c0an$r6u@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: FiCAD, Financial, CATS Hi, Has anyone got any information about FiCAD from CATS software? Any help is appreciated. /Martin ______________________________________________________________ Martin Wennerberg NEXTSTEP Developer support, Initiera Systemdesign AB (within the Upnet group). Box 20 161, 161 02 Bromma, Sweden Distributor of NEXTSTEP in the Nordic and Baltic countries email: martin@initiera.upnet.se (NeXTmail & MIME supported) phone: +46 8 635 30 86 fax: +46 8 98 70 67
From: igerard@shadok.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica function browser Date: 16 Sep 1994 13:48:00 GMT Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France Message-ID: <35c7mg$p56@wolfy.ina.fr> Hello, I have Mathematica 2.2 and in the function Browser there is not the choice between see functions of "built-in", "packages" and "loaded packages". Why this difference with the documentation (2.2.2???). Thanks. --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerard Iglesias, Email : igerard@ina.fr Computer Graphics researcher computer aided cartoon design --- --- realize a CAC on SGI platform but wait to move under NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP on SGI !!!!!!!!!!!! --- --- INA-Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Phone (33) (1) 49832930 94366 Bry sur Marne Cedex, France Fax (33) (1) 49832582 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu (Joe Kelley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Draw, forms, and the fax coverpage Date: 16 Sep 1994 13:55:43 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <35c84v$q51@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Could someone point me to code that performs the same function as the fax coverpage? That is, code that takes a form created in draw and plugs values into variables defined by draw. Thanks... You can respond to joe.kelley@vt.edu (NeXT mail accepted)
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUMMARY: printing from NS to non-ps printers Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 17:14:38 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep15.171438.274@heinz.com> References: <352k5s$8rf@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting Sender: usenet@heinz.com In article <352k5s$8rf@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > [A generally well-informed and rather exhaustive compilation of > non-PostScript printing options under NEXSTEP] I'll take advantage of David's welcome to corrections and additions to clear up a couple of points. Regarding Dots: > HP-PA? As of 8-22-94, DOTS did not have a release date for the HP > version, since they didn't have an HP yet (source: Angel R. Cura > Civetta, angelo@heinz.com). We still don't have a release date, but Dots will definitely support PA-RISC. Angelo climbs to the roof every day to watch the horizon for signs of a delivery truck, but no luck so far :-). > From an old note from Uwe Meyer-Gruhl (meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE): > "[JetPilot] is the first third-party printer driver to be fully > integrated into NEXTSTEP. This means that you can control options via > the PrintPanel from within any application." Uwe must have been misleaded by Dots' feature inspectors, which offer expanded control options outside and besides the Print panel. But Dots lets you control most options from the Print panel, and it has done so for a *long* time... the only exceptions are options that are very unique to Dots and cannot be integrated in the Print panel because of technical reasons. Federico Heinz PS: Thanks for the summary, David! DISCLAIMER: yes, I am the Federico Heinz referred in the original posting as the author of Dots... although more people are involved in its develoment now.
From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:12:49 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35c951$omn@errigle.gpl.net> References: <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) writes: > OmniWeb hasn't been forgotten, it's just shifting gears from cool hack app > towards (hopefully) cool product. > > --Greg > > (Disclaimer: I don't speak for Omni, this is my personal impression of > where we're going.) Any further news on what will be the status of OmniWeb (as regards public domain/licenced/or whatever)? -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v ng gears from cool hack app > towards (hopefully) cool product. > > --Greg > > (Disclaimer: I don't speak for Omni, this is my personal impression of > where we're going.) Any further news on what will be the status of OmniWeb (as regards public domain/licenced/or whatever)? -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's
From: jornw@nora.gih.no (Jorn Wroldsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: speech to text vice versa Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:10:23 GMT Organization: UniNett Distribution: world Message-ID: <35c90f$itj@ratatosk.uninett.no> Hello, Is there anywhere available programs for speech to text and text to speech conversion for NeXT. (I think that NeXt would be the most natural place for such software with its built-in microphone and speakers) Thanks in advance, Jorn Wroldsen -------------------------------------------------------------- Joern Wroldsen jornw@nora.gih.no Gjoevik College +47-61173548 (telephone) Box 191 +47-61170607 (fax) N-2801 GJOEVIK Norway ----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcenteno@slab.lysis.ch (D. Centeno) Subject: European characters Message-ID: <Cw86qE.4Ep@eunet.ch> Keywords: Next Oracle Accents Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:56:37 GMT hi, I experience some problems with european characters and Oracle. What i insert from a NeXT with dbkit or telnet terminal is not what retrieve with another computer or terminal. Can anybody help me Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcenteno@slab.lysis.ch (D. Centeno) Subject: European characters Message-ID: <Cw87FB.54r@eunet.ch> Keywords: Oracle next Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 14:11:35 GMT hi, I experience some problems with european characters and Oracle. What i insert from a NeXT with dbkit or telnet terminal is not what i retrieve with another computer or terminal. Can anybody help me Thanks in advance
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. They deserve a hearty Thanks (and here it is!) Date: 16 Sep 1994 16:53:52 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <35cij0$fe6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) writes: &In article <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk &(Charlesa) writes: &> Hi - &> &> All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that &we're &> all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a &> burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. &> &> Is it just myself who has noticed this? & &It's true that we haven't been putting out any new OmniWeb releases &lately, but in fact, we have one guy working full-time on OmniWeb at the &moment, which you couldn't say at any other point in the development &process up to now. Meanwhile all of us that were doing part-time work on &OmniWeb are coming up on a deadline in our biggest consulting project &(gotta make money somehow...), and don't have many spare hours leftover &for OmniWeb development (and what we do have is going to Doom 2 right &now). & &This is actually a good thing as far as OmniWeb is concerned. Our one &full-time OmniWeb guy is concentrating on cleanup and fixing all those &little bugs that people have been complaining about from time immemorial &while he has a chance to get at the code without the rest of us making &changes. Once that's done (and it's pretty close) we'll probably put out a &maintenance release that won't have much changed functionality, but should &be cleaner and more stable. We'll also have a much more stable code base &to bring in the new cool UI for the bookmark editing / URL browsing / et &cetera we've been planning for a while. & &OmniWeb hasn't been forgotten, it's just shifting gears from cool hack app &towards (hopefully) cool product. & & --Greg Actually I think a public and hearty thanks to the people at Omni Development is in order. They have done a great job with Omniweb Doom, and Frame(?), etc (probably more I'm currently unaware of) They are quick to respond to e-mail regarding bugs, problems, requests, etc. So here's to you guys. Hip Hip Horray!! And I wish you the best with Doom. I just wish it would play reasonably fast on my ND. On a pentium it just screams. But understandably business comes first. Thanks again, Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: ronp@sun16.cs.wisc.edu (Ron Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New problems with Tailor !! Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:03:44 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Message-ID: <35cj5g$col@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> References: <Cw2v89.B7@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> I also have a problem with Tailor. In accessing the CD-Rom version of the ACM Proceedings on Computer Graphics, the pdf files had overlapping columns. Ron
From: dekorte@scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NetTalk doesn't work Date: 16 Sep 1994 16:40:11 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <35chpb$3vv@mailer.fsu.edu> NetTalk didn't work for me - I kept getting "no server error" or something. When I selected the start sever option I got the same error. Has anyone gotten NetTalk to work? If so, any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? I'm running it on an 040 Cube with NS 3.0. Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: European characters In-Reply-To: dcenteno@slab.lysis.ch's message of Fri, 16 Sep 1994 14:11:35 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Sep16115928@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <Cw87FB.54r@eunet.ch> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:59:28 GMT D Centeno writes: D> hi, I experience some problems with european characters and Oracle. What D> i insert from a NeXT with dbkit or telnet terminal is not what i retrieve D> with another computer or terminal. D> Can anybody help me This sounds like an encoding problem. NeXT has a special encoding that they use, which is different than ISOLatin1 - which is probably what you are seeing on the other computers/terminals. This problem is (currently) up to individual applications to fix. Emacs19 for NEXTSTEP can work in ISOLatin1 - it's one of the settable items. Look at the NEXTSTEP specific documentation in Emacs for more information. There is a potential hack involving window server initialzation and modification of the definefont routine that could solve this for all applications, but I've not tried it, and haven't heard if anyone has been successful at it. Your best bet is to convince individual application developers to give you the option of using the ISOLatin1 encoding. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Date: 16 Sep 1994 18:12:25 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <35cn69$h3m@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> References: <1994Sep14.203956.23836@sol.UVic.CA> Greg Toews (gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA) wrote: : Does anyone know of a public domain program that will allow : terminal emulation with dialup capabilities so that I can dial : up a bbs or whatever and connect with vt100 emulation. : Is there anything I can do with the software that came with : the NeXT (NeXT Station 040 with NS 3.2) or Kermit? : I would like to be able to do X or Zmodem transfers As another replier mentioned, terminal and kermit work fine, at least for me. I can connect with my remote account with kermit, because that is what it uses. But then, from within kermit, I can transfer files with zmodem (sz and rz). I have it figured out one way- from there to here.. there> sz bigfile.Z ... some sz messages... there> control-] c (to escape to my kermit) kermit-here> control-z csh-here> rz </dev/cua >/dev/cua ... and wait while it comes... csh-here> fg kermit-here> c there> If anyone can tell me how to go the other way, I'd appreciate it. Peter Foster peter@bio01.bio.uottawa.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Message-ID: <1994Sep16.183952.23760@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:39:52 GMT In article <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: > > What are the currently available SCSI drivers? What brand of SCSI card > must I have in order to install NeXTSTEP from the CD? I've recently performed four successful NS/I installations onto Dell Optiplex 466/MX and Dell 466/L computers. I remember that, after the installation-floppy-disk boot, the installations program showed me three different SCSI-adapter drivers that were already included as part of the installation package. The instructions said that, if your adapter was one of these three, you could simply proceed to the following step in the installation but that, if your adapter was something different, you could choose to load/install a different driver. I did not try this latter, because my adapter matched one of the three indigenous drivers. So I have no idea how that would work. Of the three indigenous drivers, the only one I remember is the one that I have, and that is the Adaptec "AHA-1540CF/1542CF". (I believe that the driver-name, shown on the screen by the installation program, is "1542B". But it was compatible, whatever it said.) > Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be > physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS? According to my four installation experiences: no. I installed onto three Dells that have the "dual-combo" floppy-drive and onto one Dell that has separate floppy-drives. Basically, everything worked fine on each of them. Apparently, this problem was fixed w/ v-3.2 of NS/I. (?There was a v-3.1 of NS/I, wasn't there?) > Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be > booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the > second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary > drive for all OSs you wish to boot? *IF* your computer includes, within it's CMOS-setup program, the ability to choose to boot either from the first physical HD or the second physical HD *THEN*, yes, you can install NS/I onto the second physical HD and successfully boot from there. If your computer does not include such a CMOS-setup feature then, to the best of my understanding, you can't do it. My aspiration, for getting around this shortcoming on one of the Dells onto which I installed NS/I, is to jerry-rig a sort of switch between the two IDE drives. These particular drives include, in their board design, a jumper-switch whereby you can designate which physical drive is the so-called "master" and which is the so-called "slave". The Dell can boot only from the master (if not the FD). Actually switching the jumpers, to designate which is to be the bootable HD at any moment, is obviously much more trouble than anyone would want to go to. So I'm hoping to emulate a jumper with some jerry-rigged wires and maybe a toggle-switch. However, once I look at the matter more closely, I might chicken out, because the job will/would require me to mess with excrutiatingly tiny jumper spokes. FYI, booting from one or another of two different partitions on a single physical-drive is no problem w/ NS/I, in my experience on this one machine. --sherlock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu Subject: ? apps for NS/I ? Message-ID: <1994Sep16.185636.24427@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:56:36 GMT I've already noticed a recent query & response concerning the availability of NewsGrazer for NS/I. However, I'm wondering about other NS/I compatible apps that can be had for little or no money. Is there a list, somewhere, of what NS/I apps are available on the various ftp sites around the world? I'm interested in Gopher, Archie, WWW, WAIS, Ph, and anything else. (Games are fine but not particularly important to me at this point.) Thanks --sherlock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <jkv@sware.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 10:30:31 -0400 From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Sender: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Message-ID: <9409161430.AA15430@woof.sware.com> Subject: availabilty of foreign language dictionaries?? Does anyone know if there are any dictionaries of foreign languages that work under Webster? I am currently running NS 3.0 on black h/w. thanks in advance Joe Vossen (jkv@sware.com)
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NetTalk doesn't work Date: 16 Sep 1994 22:12:57 GMT Message-ID: <35d599$oqq@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <35chpb$3vv@mailer.fsu.edu> Steve Dekorte writes > > NetTalk didn't work for me - I kept getting "no server error" or > something. When I selected the start sever option I got the same error. > > Has anyone gotten NetTalk to work? Yes. It's great. RTF is fun. You can exchange documents via talk while you're talking about them, and graphics ... > If so, any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? I'm sorry. No. > I'm running it on an 040 Cube with NS 3.0. 040 Station with NS 3.2 > Steve -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: updated 'date' command??? Message-ID: <Cw8vML.LCD@nntpa.cb.att.com> Summary: where are all the nifty options? Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 22:54:21 GMT hi folks, in the sunos world, one can use the date command to print out nifty strings, ie: date +%d prints out the number of the day, date +%m prints out the number of the month, etc. there's a whole slew of date tricks one can do, which really assists one when one writes system-admin scripts (such as backups!). well, /bin/date on intel just prints out the rather boring date. is there another version of command-line date which does the equivalent of the sun command? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: gjackson@mbuna.umhc.umn.edu (Gary Jackson) Subject: Re: Domain wasn't added Tin 1.22? Message-ID: <Cw8z4n.8Dt@news.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <35asmj$6nh@news.iastate.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 00:01:08 GMT Chris Wong (chris@helser54) wrote: : I'm told that my post by tin 1.22 I got from ftp.cs.orst.edu doesn't : add the domain information from /etc/resolv.conf to the poster's : e-mail address. Is that a bug in general on NeXTSTEP? I didn't think that tin took the domain from /etc/resolv.conf, but on my white box I did need to recompile it with the domain hard coded. There was instructions in the INSTALL file...if I remember right. Hope that helps...Gary
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TipTop/XWindows scripts Date: 16 Sep 1994 23:44:40 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <35dal8$kri@news.u.washington.edu> Keywords: TipTop, XWindows I have been having some difficulties setting up a script to run remote XWindows sessions using TipTop. If anyone has successfully done this, I would appreciate a nudge in the right direction. thanks for your help. -MC
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where's the ghostscript patch for the DJ Date: 17 Sep 1994 01:17:13 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) Message-ID: <35dg2p$j4n@news1.shell> I recently lost my hard drive, and I need to recover some of the files that I use to have. Does anyone know where that new ghostscript patch for the Deskjet is. It was just released, and I can't seem to find it on cs.orst.edu. Brad Wright WrightSystems wwright@shell.portal.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New problems with Tailor !! Date: 17 Sep 1994 02:34:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <35dkkc$cg2@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <35cj5g$col@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> In article <35cj5g$col@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> ronp@sun16.cs.wisc.edu (Ron Peterson) writes: >I also have a problem with Tailor. In accessing the CD-Rom version of >the ACM Proceedings on Computer Graphics, the pdf files had overlapping >columns. That's not necessarily a fault of Tailor. The overlapping columns are due to the lack of original fonts in PDF on your NS system, and the substituted font metrics are genarally larger than those of the original fonts. It is true that Abobe's Acrobat (PDF) reader employs multiple font master technology that tries to maintain the original formatting even when the receiving machine does not have the exact fonts specfied in the PDF documents. Tailor does not have such capability when importing PDF, so it does a straight substitution of fonts. I asked that question to Peter at FirstClass, and he seems to think that the right place to support multiple font master technology is at the level of DPS/WindowServer. I don't know if such thing is practical with only two (Helvetica and Times) family of fonts shipped as standard on NS. Regardless, I would like to see NEXTSTEP incorporate PDF support into the base NS User. BTW, what are the places of PS and PDF? Is Adobe attempting their 2-nd try for domination as DPS never happened on Windows and Macs. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 16 Sep 1994 19:22:01 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35djs9$c3o@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <35c951$omn@errigle.gpl.net> Stephen Fitzpatrick writes: >Any further news on what will be the status of OmniWeb (as regards public domain/licenced/or whatever)? The first copy on any network is free. Subsequent copies cost $100/seat for commercial users. Educational pricing has not been set. -Wil Shipley
From: ronp@sun16.cs.wisc.edu (Ron Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New problems with Tailor !! Date: 17 Sep 1994 05:24:51 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Message-ID: <35duj3$l2r@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> References: <35cj5g$col@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> <35dkkc$cg2@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <35dkkc$cg2@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: > >BTW, what are the places of PS and PDF? Is Adobe attempting their >2-nd try for domination as DPS never happened on Windows and Macs. > Having just used PDF on a 950 Quadra, I am not sure of the purpose of PDF. The next page function was fast (3 secs/page from a CD-ROM), but the document was not readable unless viewed at 200%. The printed page from PDF was of high quality at 300 dpi. Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: HP version of Doom available? Message-ID: <bchin.779754973@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <34red4$6o5@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep12.174933.3964@il.us.swissbank.com> <35bduv$8sr@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 22:36:13 GMT wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >Music support isn't in there, and probably won't be, because it'd be a huge >CPU suck. The sound effects were just digital sound files, in a slightly >strange format but easily converted to 22Khz linear. First, I'd like to say I'm glad to see *any* version available for NEXTSTEP. I was wondering if Omni can leave the hooks in there so that someone could develop a Doom<->MusicKit bundle? On white hardware, at least, the music can use the DSP chip through FM synthesis or MIDI. Once (or if) MusicKit is ported to Intel/HP, music can be added then. Wouldn't it be as easy as "if music bundle exists, play music xxx now"? I'm probably just being naive. ..Bill -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: More CD "players" (was Re: The 7th Guest & 11th Hour) Message-ID: <bchin.779755653@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <3528ti$4fo@anshar.shadow.net> <1994Sep16.093546.28060@news.research.ptt.nl> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 22:47:33 GMT >In article <3528ti$4fo@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay >Fuchs) writes: >> Additionally, I'd love to get some info on how NS was used to develop >>T7G & T11H. Does anyone have information on a CD "player" that can access/play some Sony(?) format CD-ROMs like Grolier's Encyclopedia? There was an announcement a while back from a company based in Germany and I've since lost the information. Did it ever ship? Is there a U.S. distributor? Thanks for any information! -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: European characters Date: 17 Sep 1994 00:23:05 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35e5gp$cqp@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <Cw87FB.54r@eunet.ch> <BYER.94Sep16115928@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Scott Byer writes: >D Centeno writes: >D> hi, I experience some problems with european characters and Oracle. What >D> i insert from a NeXT with dbkit or telnet terminal is not what i retrieve >D> with another computer or terminal. >This sounds like an encoding problem. NeXT has a special encoding that they >use, which is different than ISOLatin1 - which is probably what you are >seeing on the other computers/terminals. I agree with Scott; I'll mention that if you switch to EOF you'll be able to use NSStrings, which handle conversion from ISOLatin1 to NEXTSTEP encoding semi-automatically. Mind you, you could also just write a class conforming to DBKit's customType protocol, and translate the characters on the fly as you read them off the database and write them back. Assuming your DBKit is up-to-date enough, this should work. -Wil Shipley Omni Development, Inc.
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. They deserve a hearty Thanks (and here it is!) Date: 17 Sep 1994 00:27:21 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <35a6ls$dsr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <35cij0$fe6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes: >Hip Hip Horray!! I'll drink to me anytime. Note that we're not entirely humanitarian, however; some people have already paid for OmniWeb via support contracts. We did do OmniImage for free, though. >And I wish you the best with Doom. I just wish it would play reasonably >fast on my ND. On a pentium it just screams. But understandably business >comes first. Doom is our business now too; we'll be selling it come DOOMSDAY. I'll post an 800 number to call with your credit card should you want a copy. Doom won't be fast on an ND because Interceptor isn't fast on an ND, and we aren't writing special video drivers beyond Interceptor. Eventually, I'd like to convert Doom to using NEXTIME as its display protocol; that is, make Doom be just another NEXTIME source, like the QuickTime decoder. I'm not sure if this is practical. Probably, by the time NEXTIME is a shlib, Carmack will be done with Quake anyways, and Doom will just be a fond memory. -Wil Shipley Omni Development, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@s94083.u94.stevens-tech.edu (Operator) Subject: gcc/libg++ 2.6.0 - help! Message-ID: <1994Sep17.163315.7178@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:33:15 GMT I'm trying to get gcc 2.6.0 up and running on my NS/I box. I've done the gcc 2.6.0 part of the install and it seems to have gone smoothly. However, now I'm trying to add in the libg++ 2.6 libraries (as it states in the INSTALL text) but I'm having problems. Here's what I've done: ./configure i486-next-bsd make The error reported is: iofdopen.c: In function '_IO_fdopen': iofdopen.c:68 'O_ACCMODE' undeclared (first use this function) iofdopen.c:68: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once iofdopen.c:68: for each function it appears in.) *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. I also tried ./configure i486-next-bsd make install The error reported is: install: _G_config.h does not exist *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. I'm not very well-versed in Makefiles, so I haven't tried any changes. I should note that when I installed gcc 2.6.0, the parameter passed to configure was 'i486-next-ns3' but this parameter is not recognized by libg++ 2.6.0. What am I missing/doing wrong? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Scott Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: hrh@babylon.aiinet.com (Rich Harkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next's FileMerge Date: 17 Sep 1994 17:30:33 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <35f93p$65l@aisun.aiinet.com> Does anyone know of a WORKING version of FileMerge out there. The one that came with NextStep doesn't seem to be all that consistent in its functionality. Sometimes it will not show the right diffs. Other times it is just out of sequence in the files. Any pointers would be much appreciated. -- ----_____ _ _____ | TurboD A.K.A. H. Richard Harkins ---/_ _/_ _ ____ //__ ____ /_ __ \ | hrh@aiinet.com ----/ / ///// __// o // o / _//_/ / | GCS/MU d? p+ c++++ l- u e+(*) m++ s/++ ---/_/ \_//_/ /___//___/ /_____/ | !n h* !f(--)(-) g+ w++++ t++ r+ y**(?)
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's FileMerge Date: 17 Sep 1994 13:38:45 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35fk4l$125@samsara.circus.com> References: <35f93p$65l@aisun.aiinet.com> In article <35f93p$65l@aisun.aiinet.com>, Rich Harkins <hrh@aisun> wrote: >Does anyone know of a WORKING version of FileMerge out there. The one that >came with NextStep doesn't seem to be all that consistent in its functionality. >Sometimes it will not show the right diffs. Other times it is just out of >sequence in the files. Any pointers would be much appreciated. You're going to hate me for this, but I know EXACTLY where to find a better version of FileMerge: 3.3 Prerelease 2. Cheers, -Adam -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NetTalk doesn't work Date: 17 Sep 1994 22:29:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <35fqjs$khr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <35chpb$3vv@mailer.fsu.edu> In article <35chpb$3vv@mailer.fsu.edu> dekorte@scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte) writes: & &NetTalk didn't work for me - I kept getting "no server error" or &something. When I selected the start sever option I got the same error. & &Has anyone gotten NetTalk to work? &If so, any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? & &I'm running it on an 040 Cube with NS 3.0. & &Steve I'm using a NeXT Dimension running NS3.2. I have yet to find someone or a couple to talk to for kicks. But saw no errors starting it up.. Randy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: GatorFTP and informatik problem?!? In-Reply-To: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu's message of 15 Sep 1994 01:06:22 GMT To: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Sep16221821@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> <3586me$dpr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 20:18:20 GMT >>>>> "HV" == Hal Varian <hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu> writes: In article <3586me$dpr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes: HV> HV> In article <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: >> Has anyone else experienced this lately? >> When I GatorFTP to informatik everything comes up ok untill i >> get down to the platforms directory, then all i see is one directory >> for 'pc' apps. I cannot get anything up for next or any of the others. >> >> Is this a Gator problem?? >> HV> HV> It looks to me like GatorFTP is not following the links HV> to the next, et al directories. You can see the links in the log view below the browser. If a directory is not offered in the browser you can enter its name into the ``Remote Directory'' field at the bottom; just append to what's there already. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: screen fonts In-Reply-To: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl's message of 14 Sep 1994 13:52:20 GMT To: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Sep17194028@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <356v6k$oqk@svin09.win.tue.nl> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 17:40:27 GMT >>>>> "MH" == Malo Hautus <wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl> writes: In article <356v6k$oqk@svin09.win.tue.nl> wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) writes: MH> MH> How does one change the screen font in the compose MH> window of the Mail application if Non-Next is selected? MH> I have Ohlfs, 10 pt., which is too small for me. The MH> Font Panel doesn't work, I get a beep when I want to MH> select a new font. I didn't find information about this MH> in the user's guide. I would expect this to be possible MH> using the preferences dialogue box, but it does not seem MH> to have this option. MH> MH> More generally speaking, is there a consistent way of MH> defining your preferred fonts and sizes for the windows MH> in various applications? The Preferences application lets you choose several default fonts. What you are looking for is the ``Fixed Pitch Font'', which is probably Ohlfs-10. If you want to use different default fonts in some applications you can define them manually in a Terminal window, e.g. dwrite Mail NXFixedPitchFont Ohlfs dwrite Mail NXFixedPitchFontSize 12 You can also check the current settings with the following command dread -l | grep Font | grep -v Panel | sort Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: colby@synhouse.synhouse.gagme.wwa.com (Colbert B. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP or PPP and MOSAIC? Date: 18 Sep 1994 03:41:36 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services Message-ID: <35gctg$cop@sashimi.wwa.com> References: <358n1g$h9@rain.org> Keywords: SLIP PPP WWW NEXUS mosaic In article <358n1g$h9@rain.org> lbeears@rain.org (Les Beears) writes: > Hmmmm seems like the text of the message got lost.. > > Well the question was does anyone know of a good source of SLIP or PPP > software for NeXT(Intel). Most of what I have found is for the 680xx. > > Is MOSAIC available for NexT of is OmniWeb it? > > Sure hope this message makes it. > > Les > > Les > Beears (lbeears@rain.org) wrote: Try ftp to info.cern.ch for WWW software, Why use MOSAIC through a Xwindow when you could get the original prototype of the web they have archives for 68,486,MAB for NeXT Nexus.app ver 2.02 MAB works flawlessly on my AST running 3.2 it lives in /pub/www/bin/next-fat/WWW.app_2.02.tar.Z other versions are in /next/ and /next-386/ happy surfing, colby@synhouse.gagme.wwa.com
From: wehmeier@acf4.nyu.edu (wehmeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: need f77 for NS3.2 Date: 18 Sep 1994 04:59:41 GMT Organization: New York University Message-ID: <35ghft$q40@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Summary: looking for next fortran Keywords: next fortran Could someone recommend a fortran compiler for NS 3.x running on a motorola platform? many thanks.
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GatorFTP and informatik problem?!? Date: 18 Sep 1994 11:05:46 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <35h6ua$22b@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <Cw56JJ.82y@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > Has anyone else experienced this lately? > When I GatorFTP to informatik everything comes up ok untill i > get down to the platforms directory, then all i see is one directory > for 'pc' apps. I cannot get anything up for next or any of the others. > > Is this a Gator problem?? Yup, it is. I started using Yftp (I think in pre-alpha stage, but already better that GatorFTP), comes with source and works an green hardware (Gator doesn't). -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 18 Sep 1994 14:12:08 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35hhro$h57@tequesta.gate.net> References: <359nq3$3uc@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Mark Conway (conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com) wrote: : Now that I've got a SLIP provider, I'm dusting off : Teleconnect V1.0 to work on NEXTSTEP. I seem to : remember a patch needed to get the thing working. : Can someone help? : Thanks - Mark My copy broke when upgrading to NS 3.2 and calls to Marble revealed that they were no longer supporting the software. -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | 19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu (Josh Tenenberg) Subject: VirtSpace for NS 3.2 on black Message-ID: <Cw8K9F.At@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu> Sender: usenet@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu (USENET poster) Organization: Indiana University South Bend Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:48:51 GMT I am looking for something similar to VirtSpace that runs under NS 3.2. Anyone know of any such software currently available? Any help/details appreciated. -- Josh D. Tenenberg Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Indiana University at South Bend 1700 Mishawaka Avenue South Bend, Indiana 46615 tenenberg@acm.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dimitri@duti614b.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: Re: ListServer Binary? Message-ID: <CwC0xD.6Ep@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration) Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <Cw1CsK.C3w@bldrdoc.gov> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 15:41:37 GMT In article <Cw1CsK.C3w@bldrdoc.gov>, Eric S. Boltz <eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov> wrote: > >Looking for a digest-type listserver app for NS(2.1) or plain ol' >BSD. Any hints? > >thanks, >-E > >-- >Eric S. Boltz > My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, > the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST. We are happily using the SmartList package which comes in the same distribution as procmail. You can get procmail from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de, as /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.zip. There is one patch you have to apply to a SmartList sh script because of an incompatibility of NeXT's date command. Mail me for details. Hope this helps, Dimitri -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | NeGeN | | Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland | | Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe | | and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Message-ID: <1994Sep18.170424.140@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <35a5sj$70a@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 17:04:24 GMT In article <35a5sj$70a@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > So, what's your point? It's free, and they might want to concentrate > on the projects that are bringing in money for awhile. I'd think > that anyone who is confused by this is more than welcome to spend > their own time writing software and making it available for free > to everyone on the net. And when you do, be sure to keep those > updates to the free software coming on a regular basis. Or better yet, make your program shareware. The entire community complains about too-expensive software, yet when you give them cool stuff for less than $25 a whole lot of them use it but never register. It's really sad because it encourages people to make large-price-tag software. Well, it makes that their only option. - db -- Hello, I saw you, I know you, I knew you, I think I can remember your name. -- REM -- Nothing wrong with dog's milk! Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. -- Holly -- You spend the night, like you are spending a dime -- Lovett -- She didn't fight it at all -- Sugar -- A shrubbery -- Python
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: paulg@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.W. Gould) Subject: PostIt Notes for NS? Message-ID: <Cw5zyF.78u@liverpool.ac.uk> Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System) Organization: The University of Liverpool Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 09:35:02 GMT Does anyone know of a [P.D.|shareware] `PostIt Notes' application for NS, a la xpostit. Source or 68k binary O.K. Paul -- Paul Gould, Network Support Officer Tel: +44 (0)151-794 5118 CTI Centre for Biology, Donnan Laboratories Fax: +44 (0)151-794 4401 University of Liverpool, PO Box 147 email: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk Liverpool L69 3BX, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: 3.3 Message-ID: <Cw6t2t.E2y@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <354mgt$3dq@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 20:04:05 GMT In article <354mgt$3dq@ftp-p.mccaw.com> dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock) writes: > > > And unless NeXT comes to their senses: HIDEOUSLY UGLY icons > > > on the m68k version--and a lot of really nice artwork going > > > away, replaced with NOTHING. (This must be part of their > > > new strategy to attract Windoze users.) Yuck. > > > > Can you (or anybody) clue us in on just exactly what art is going away? > > The black hardware icons (Terminal...) have been replaced with white > equivalents. > And they're not even nice white ones, they look horrid. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 18 Sep 1994 16:29:01 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com writes: >Jean-Marc Debaud writes >> >> I can't agree more with this article. NeXT provides a very >> nice development platform but that remains crude and for >> which the learning curve is very long unless you were >> born a geek and absorbed UNIX by the bowl. >Pursuing your PhD (as you mention below), I suspect you know the >value of making un-substantiated statements as above. You would >serve your argument better by describing exactly HOW crude the >NEXTSTEP development environemnt is. Particularly useful would be >DIRECT, BROAD & DEEP comparisions to a variety of similar tools (and, >even though it's quite differnt, PowerBuilder too, since that's what >started this hole thread). First Chris, thanks for telling me that I am an idiot. But in YOUR RUSH to read between the lines, you missed my point. Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. I expereinced both. But back on the app dev subject. I'll invite you to take some time AWAY from your NEXTSTEP IB/PB and DBKIT and spend some times with VISUAL C++, ACCESS 2.0, VB3.0 and the like. And more importantly with the add-ons supplied by 3rd parties. These tools are very easy to understand and USE. Further, and what is worse for NS, look at the market for VBXs which are components supplied by other vendors that add very substantial saving of time when building new applications. Although architectually flawed, VBXs and many other components, prototyping, or generation tools exists and will be expanded under windows 4.x. Very few companies can afford to take the very long term (though they should) view of EOF and THEMSELVES reinventing the wheel that other component and the like can do (meaning exists) under windows. (Called OCXs under Chicago and Cairo). Many companies do not write the same type of application over and over. So enterprise object reuse is therefore limited except in maintenance. What would I do today ? Wait for some NS pallettes ? Or use something else that already exists and that can save me time now to complete my app. What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... That is what we need. There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX (MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools for network management still are way too complex for the average user. Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. If something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for the dummies. Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain things up. So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available it cannot more into the mainstream. Yes, EOF, is fine (great technology) but again it does not address the scope of functionality I can import in my app. Maybe is provides A WAY but no substance. That is what I was complaing about. It only addresses the need of companies with the vision to build and maintain reusable object repositories. Very few are that visionary. Worse, if I am just starting I am f... because I can't by the KITs needed for my app. So I move to something else. Jean-Marc. ===================================================================== You wrote originally (thanks again for the insults): > For real applications and REAL speed of development, something > like Powersoft tools should be available on the NeXT, even if > this means that NeXT should support or choose among some > DB providers outthere. I still don't get it (pardon my ignorance of PowerBuilder) when you say "something like PowerBuilder tools...on the NeXT". What functionality is desired that is currently not available from the Application Kit, Enterprise Objects Framework, ProjectBuilder, InterfaceBuilder, EOModeler? > Yes, this is a call for a REAL DBkit pallette with a REAL > DB oriented application OO Framework. Well, DatabaseKit was, admittedly weak in many ways. Enterprise Objects Framework is a SIGNIFICANT improvement, and DOES provide a "REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. Most are simply building screens/windows, spreading their application logic all over the place, and tying directly to the database. I'll say it again, PowerBuilder may be a terrific tool for building DB-oriented applications quickly, it is NOT a terrific tool for building object-oriented systems that have longevity and model the enterprise. Great for building "new legacy applications"! > PS: Ok, ok... not coincidently, I am doing a PhD on OO Framework > dev. In which case you should know better. You should realize that, while object modeling of the enterprise is a more difficult (read longer) process than building PowerBuilder-type applications, the payoff can be significantly higher. You should realize that those same companies will keep building those applications over and over again. While that wouldn't necessarily change in an object-modeled scenario, what does change is that a SIGNIFICANT (if done correctly) amount of the business model/process/logic/etc. is wrapped up in APPLICATION NEUTRAL objects that can be (relatively) easily re-assembled into new applications. Of the total application logic (and code) a much smaller percentage is application specific. To modify a phrase made popular by the current U.S. President (and this is not directed towards any one person): "It's the objects stupid." -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: updated 'date' command??? References: <Cw8vML.LCD@nntpa.cb.att.com> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 07:41:25 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep18.074125.4626@proximus.north.de> In article <Cw8vML.LCD@nntpa.cb.att.com>, -B.LING <btl@hogpf.ho.att.com> wrote: [...] >in the sunos world, one can use the date command to print out >nifty strings, ie: [...] Not only SunOS. Get the GNU-Version of date, it compiled fine for me. It does all you want. Gerhard. -- +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on request >--+ N Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: ddn problems with netcom Message-ID: <CwCDo5.7q@nyro.com> Keywords: netcom ddn sendmail mail Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - makers of Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 20:16:52 GMT We have just got a direct connection to netcom. We get MX record errors if we use the newer /usr/lib/sendmail program. We have to use the older /usr/lib/sendmail. The quality of delivery on the system seems really bad. If anyone out there is connect to netcom in a similar way and have any recommendations, we would great appreciate it. More info: * We are connected using a 56k leased line with a livingston router. * Mail -v shows mail trying to go out via ddn but not always connecting to a server. Thanks again for any help. Sample sendmail.mailhost.cfs are also welcome! ihs
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 20:08:59 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <siTBOPG00iV546Sl5c@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 18-Sep-94 Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Missi.. by Jean-Marc Debaud@cc.gate > Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath > NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and > to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. > I expereinced both. For one thing, there is a vast difference in the level of functionality provided by a Unix-based operating system (such as NEXTSTEP) and what MS-DOS or Windows gives you. However, your assertion that 'If something goes wrong underneath NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong...' is misleading at best and wrong in general. Heck, neither DOS nor Windows provides seperate address spaces for each process nor adequate memory protection. An error in one component can cause the entire system to crash, or cause strange (not reproducable) errors in a particular application when the real cause of the problem originated elsewhere. Unix systems have the immensely important advantage that a problem in one process will not corrupt other processes or bring down the system. > But back on the app dev subject. > > I'll invite you to take some time AWAY from your NEXTSTEP IB/PB > and DBKIT and spend some times with VISUAL C++, ACCESS 2.0, VB3.0 > and the like. And more importantly with the add-ons supplied by > 3rd parties. Many people on this group have used such products, and are more then happy to be using NEXTSTEP now. [ ... ] > Many companies do not write the same type of application over and > over. So enterprise object reuse is therefore limited except > in maintenance. Is that an opinion, or do you claim to have some sort of study supporting this? I know that many companies using NEXTSTEP really do have object libraries that they reuse time and time again. > What would I do today ? Wait for some NS pallettes ? Or use something > else that already exists and that can save me time now to complete my > app. NEXTSTEP'll save you more time designing most complete applications then the tools you are advocating. > What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT > should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call > kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... > That is what we need. They're already available under NEXTSTEP. You have things like Unix sockets, typed streams, DO/PDO, and so forth for network communications. You have Pixars' RenderMan and the Interceptor library for video, etc. > There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX > (MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools > for network management still are way too complex for the average user. So what? NEXTSTEP, with NFSManager, NetInfoManager, SimpleNetworkStarter, and so forth offer one of the best and easiest to use interfaces into Unix networking available. If you want a high level of functionality, you have to deal with a certain level of complexity. > Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice word, but it's too bad you don't know what it means: on-tol-o-gy \aHn-'taHl-e-jeE\ [NL ontologia, fr. ont- + -logia -logy] 1: a branch of metaphysics concerned with the nature and relations of being 2: a particular theory about the nature of being or the kinds of existents -- on-tol-o-gist \-jest\ n > If something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for > the dummies. Why would something go wrong? Those are owned by root, and normal users can't change them at all (that multiuser file ownership thing under Unix, you see). If you have people messing with a machine as root when they don't know what they're doing, that's certainly not the fault of Unix or NEXTSTEP. > Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain > things up. Not so. You need someone who can read and follow directions. > So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and > as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available > it cannot more into the mainstream. You are mistaken on both counts. NEXTSTEP is the easiest Unix-based system I know of to set up, and it has the highest baseline level of functionality of any operating system on the market. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Message-ID: <1994Sep15.225737.8161@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 22:57:37 GMT In article <359dt9$ppb@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) writes: > All seems to be quiet from OmniGroup re: OmniWeb. Now, I know that we're > all busy people with tons of projects (Frame, Doom?, etc), but after a > burst of development work on OW, all seems to have gone quiet. > > Is it just myself who has noticed this? I posted some things to the omniweb-l mailing list that never came through. I suspect that they may be having some list problems as well. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 00:51:52 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <35inb8$ms8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <siTBOPG00iV546Sl5c@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <siTBOPG00iV546Sl5c@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain > > things up. > > Not so. You need someone who can read and follow directions. I agree. I am a former Mac user who bought two NeXTs, knowing nothing about UNIX configuration, networking and so forth. For the most part, NeXT's netinfo networking is trivially simple. If you want to just network a few machines by themselves, then just bring out SimpleNetworkStarter.app and HostManager.app, choose the defaults, and you've got a working network. I wanted to have cross mounted machines between different internet subnets, and I do admit this took a bit more work to find out where I stick the right ip address numbers. Still, I wouldn't have been able to get the functionality I wanted with DOS or Macs, and compared to configuration on any other type of UNIX machine, the NeXT is still very simple and easy. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:21:51 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <35j04f$apg@sundog.tiac.net> References: <35hhro$h57@tequesta.gate.net> Robert Wilson writes > Mark Conway (conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com) wrote: > > : Now that I've got a SLIP provider, I'm dusting off > : Teleconnect V1.0 to work on NEXTSTEP. I seem to > : remember a patch needed to get the thing working. > : Can someone help? > > : Thanks - Mark > > My copy broke when upgrading to NS 3.2 and calls to Marble revealed that > they were no longer supporting the software. That is strange. I had great amount of help from them when I asked them how can I get through with my SLIP provider about two month before. By the way you need v1.1 to work with NS3.2. I am really surprised that they said they are not supporting the app anymore to you. Really strange, why did they help me? They are so kind that they even told me in step by step setup on my machine. They even found some parameter for me by tracing my machine down from their machine on the net. You know it was just no more than two month ago. shigeru
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:57:50 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35j27u$pag@tequesta.gate.net> References: <35hhro$h57@tequesta.gate.net> <35j04f$apg@sundog.tiac.net> ShigeruKAWAGUCHI (shigeru@lamb.tiac.net) wrote: : Robert Wilson writes : > Mark Conway (conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com) wrote: : > : > : Now that I've got a SLIP provider, I'm dusting off : > : Teleconnect V1.0 to work on NEXTSTEP. I seem to : > : remember a patch needed to get the thing working. : > : Can someone help? : > : > : Thanks - Mark : > : > My copy broke when upgrading to NS 3.2 and calls to Marble revealed that : > they were no longer supporting the software. : That is strange. I had great amount of help from them when I asked them : how can I get through with my SLIP provider about two month before. By : the way you need v1.1 to work with NS3.2. I am really surprised that they : said they are not supporting the app anymore to you. Really strange, why : did they help me? They are so kind that they even told me in step by step : setup on my machine. They even found some parameter for me by tracing my : machine down from their machine on the net. You know it was just no more : than two month ago. : shigeru Maybe I caught them on a bad day? Well based on these favorable comments, I took it upon myself to do a clean re-install and am happy to say that Marble Teleconnect v.1.1 does still work under NS 3.2 !! Now has anybody got it working with dynamic IP addressing? -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | 19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I convert GIF to JPG? (PD Tools?) Date: 16 Sep 1994 07:51:40 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep16085140@steffi.demon.co.uk> Subject says it all. -- "Mariella Mariella Mariella" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The Music Kit on a PC Date: 19 Sep 1994 02:48:12 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940919165149.5613AACUL.mmalc@hotaru> References: <940909090150.19677AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> Sorry if people have seen this before -- I haven't seen it in any of the c.s.n.newsgroups yet, but the connections from here are rather poor... People crying out for decent sound suport on Intel machines should be particularly interested. Many, many thanks to Jaffe, Smith et al. for this. Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h" THE MUSIC KIT ON A PC --------------------- The Music Kit now runs on Intel hardware. The 4.1 release of the CCRMA Music Kit and DSP Tools Distribution is available free of charge by anonymous FTP from host ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, directory pub/NeXT/MusicKit/. (It will be posted in several weeks, after we return from the International Computer Music Conference in Denmark.) ----David Jaffe & Julius Smith This message contains the following sections: + Summary of Release 4.1 + Further Information on Release 4.1 + Ariel announces special product configurations for Music Kit users + Notes and caveats on Intel-based hardware and software + Highlights of Release 4.0 + Background on the Music Kit RELEASE 4.1--SUMMARY -------------------- Release 4.1 is essentially release 4.0 plus support for NEXTSTEP 486/Pentium machines. The release is "fat" so there is only one package for both NeXT and Intel-processor computers. Music Kit applications and libraries now work interchangeably on NeXT and Intel hardware. Music Kit music synthesis and digital audio processing is provided via one or more DSP chips. On NeXT hardware, the DSP is built in. On Intel hardware, two DSP sound cards are presently supported: (1) Ariel PC-56D (2) Turtle Beach Multisound Further details on these cards are provided below. While we have only tested with the PC-56D and the Multisound, we expect the other Turtle Beach cards having a Motorola DSP56001 chip will also work. We are also looking into DSP56001-based cards by other manufacturers. For Intel-processor MIDI support, the Music Kit provides a driver supporting any MPU-401-compatible card. On NeXT hardware, MIDI is done via the two built-in serial ports. RELEASE 4.1--FURTHER INFORMATION -------------------------------- * To support digital signal processing and synthesis, the 4.1 Music Kit includes drivers for the Ariel PC56D and Turtle Beach Multisound DSP cards. The Ariel PC56D card comes in two models, one with a 27 Mhz. DSP and the other with a 33 Mhz. DSP. It also includes a NeXT-compatible DSP port which can be used to do high-quality ADC/DAC via the Ariel ProPort. Other serial port devices, such as the Ariel ProPort or DATPort, Singular Solutions A/D64x, Stealth devices, etc. may be used to do analog or digital I/O. It also features 64k of zero-wait-state static RAM (we currently support 16k of this) and a 14-bit 19 Khz. CODEC (currently not supported by the Music Kit.) Ariel has put together an attractive package specially for Music Kit users (see below). The Turtle Beach Multisound card includes a 40 Mhz. DSP, 32K of 3-wait-state static RAM, and a 16 bit 44 Khz. CODEC for DAC/ADC. It also has a built-in Emu sample-playing synthesizer and a MIDI port (currently not supported by the Music Kit.) MIDI support is provided on Intel hardware through a new MPU-401 driver that emulates the API and functionality of the 3.0 MIDI driver for NeXT hardware, including support for synchronization to MIDI time code. This driver supports such cards as those in the Music Quest family. It also should work for Sound Blaster cards that support an MPU-401 interface. This driver may be with or without the Music Kit. Source to the driver is included in the Music Kit Source Package. * Multiple DSP and MIDI cards by the same or different manufacturers can be used simultaneously by a Music Kit application. This is done in a seamless manner so that the application need not concern itself with the details of DSP resource allocation. * An extensible DSP driver design makes it easy to port to other DSP56001-based cards. Source to the DSP drivers is included in the Music Kit Source Package. * The drivers provide automatic sensing so that applications can be moved between machines with different hardware configuration with no re-configuration necessary. * The Music Kit now supports the 192K DSP extension memory board for the NeXT slab (available from S.F.S.U.) with automatic sensing. * Various minor enhancements and bug-fixes. ARIEL PRODUCTS -------------- Ariel is offering special product configurations for use with the Music Kit on Intel hardware: The CCRMA-1 is a PC56D card with 64K SRAM, 27 MHz DSP56001 processor, 14-bit Analog interface chip and a NeXT compatible DSP connector. This does not include a printed manual, but does include a disk with installation instructions and a "checkout" program for MSDOS. There is no support included except for cases where the board does not function under DOS. Also, there's no support from Ariel for problems encountered with NextStep, the Music Kit, etc; and of course there is no developer support. It comes with a standard 1 year warranty. Price is $395.00. (Note that this is ~50% off from the list price.) CCRMA-1-33 is identical to the CCRMA-1, but has a 33 MHz processor. The price is $445.00 CCRMA-2 is the PC56D as described above, with a Proport 656. Note that the proport is 120V powered unless a 220V adapter is ordered at the time of purchase. If the adapter is ordered separately it costs $40. The price for this bundle is $1095. (Note that this is way more than 50% off list price.) CCRMA-2-33 is identical to CCRMA-2, but the PC56D has a 33 MHz processor. The price is $1145.00. Availability of these is subject to the following conditions: 1. Products can be ordered at these prices beginning 1 October 2. Delivery will be from stock if available, otherwise delays may be incurred. 3. All prices are FOB the factory. Shipping, handling, and insurance charges will be added. There's a 10% restocking charge. Returns must be made within 30 days. Other ordering information may be found on the back of our price list. 4. At these prices, there's no additional university discount, and all orders must be prepaid by check, money order, or credit card (VISA, MC, AMEX). 5. A faxed copy of the NEXTSTEP for Intel license must accompany the order. 6. Only one order per customer, without prior arrangement. 7. There are no discounts on anything else in the price list. NOTES ON INTEL-BASED HARDWARE ----------------------------- Unlike the NeXT computer, Intel-based hardware comes in many varieties. Some care must be taken to be sure that NEXTSTEP and the sound cards run properly. For information on configurations supported by NEXTSTEP, please contact NeXT. As far as the DSP and MIDI cards are concerned, you must make sure that the I/O ports and IRQs of the cards do not conflict with those of any other hardware you have installed. For example, the Ariel PC56D uses several high addresses in I/O space to signal DSP reset and memory map configuration. Be careful that these addresses do not conflict with other devices, PCI bus configuration cycles, etc. The Music Kit for Intel is a new product and has not been shaken down to the extent that the version for NeXT hardware has. Nevertheless, the design is actually simpler, more extensible, and easier to maintain than the NeXT version. Please read the release notes carefully for up-to-date information, known bugs, etc. RELEASE 4.0--HIGHLIGHTS ----------------------- Here is a list of highlights of the 4.0 release of the Music Kit. These features are also supported by the 4.1 Music Kit. * Conductor synchronization to MIDI time code & generation of MIDI time code. * Real-time processing of sound from DSP port (with example applications). * Playing sound out the DSP port to external DAT or D/A interfaces, with support for Ariel, Stealth, Singular Solutions and MetaResearch digital I/O products. * Waveshaping ("non-linear distortion") synthesis. * "WaveEdit", a graphical waveform editor * New substantially-enhanced version of the Ensemble application that supports sound processing instruments, graphical envelope editing, new NoteFilters and more. * New version of the ScorePlayer application that supports such new features as playing sound out the DSP serial port, synchronization to MIDI time code, and saving DSP synthesis to a soundfile. * Support for the NeXT 32K DSP memory expansion, with automatic sensing. * Support for the Ariel QuintProcessor (5-DSP) board for the NeXTcube(with programming examples). * SynthPatch library source now included as programming examples. * Support for quadraphonic sound output via the DSP serial port (with special external hardware). * Workspace inspector for scorefiles. People who answered the Music Kit survey sent around last year will notice that many of the most-requested items on the survey have been included in the 4.0 release. Please send other Music Kit requests to musickit@ccrma.stanford.edu. To subscribe to a Music Kit news group, send to mkdist-request@ccrma.stanford.edu. BACKGROUND ---------- The Music Kit is an object-oriented software system for building music, sound, signal processing, and MIDI applications under the NEXTSTEP operating system. It has been used in such diverse commercial applications as music sequencers, notation packages, computer games, and document processors. Professors and students have used the Music Kit in a host of areas, such as music performance, scientific experiments, computer-aided instruction, and physical modeling of musical instruments. The Music Kit is the first to comprehensively unify the MIDI and Music V paradigms, thus combining interaction with generality. It was developed by NeXT Computer, Inc. from 1986 to 1991 and has been supported since then by CCRMA at Stanford University and developers such as Pinnacle Research, Inc.
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 01:53:53 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35jjj1$9fs@samsara.circus.com> References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> Just a little quibble... In article <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu>, Jean-Marc Debaud <debaud@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: > [. . .] >Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath >NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and >to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. >I expereinced both. Actually, from my experience, usually the non-UNIX platforms give absolutely NO EXPLANATION about what has happened. On a mac, for example, you get a little bomb. In DOS/Windows, the system will just lock up, or the shell will die. In UNIX, you might even get -- get this -- an error message that helps explain things. Yes, I admit, some people won't understand a message like "NFS server foobar not responding", but it sure beats just locking up and crashing like many other platforms do. > [. . .] >What would I do today ? Wait for some NS pallettes ? Or use something >else that already exists and that can save me time now to complete my >app. > >What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT >should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call >kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... >That is what we need. Umm, just what kind of palettes are we missing? I've seen generic socket objects and networking objects available for NS both freely and from third parties. I've seen a couple other things around, too. There's a bunch of third party palettes and objects already available. Did you check? >There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX >(MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools >for network management still are way too complex for the average user. >Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. If >something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for >the dummies. I'm sorry. I can't parse the above paragraph, it's too complex for me. :) >Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain >things up. > >So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and >as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available >it cannot more into the mainstream. Okay, so you want it simpler, but you want more kits. Something tells me you're asking for some contradictory things... Also... this is sort of a pet peeve, but people seem to be asking a lot of contradictory things. There's one ever-present thread that NeXT should unbundle all these kits which raise the costs, like people who don't give a **** if they don't get RenderMan or whatever, then we have people asking for more of these kits to come included. Hmm... I think I'll stop here... :) -A -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any FTPable PencilMeIn Date: 19 Sep 1994 10:23:58 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <35joru$als@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi - Does anyone know where a ftpable demo of PencilMeIn.app can be found? MAB version? Thx, C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PostIt Notes for NS? Date: 19 Sep 1994 11:28:09 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <35jsk9$ps7@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <Cw5zyF.78u@liverpool.ac.uk> paulg@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.W. Gould) writes: >Does anyone know of a [P.D.|shareware] `PostIt Notes' application for >NS, a la xpostit. Source or 68k binary O.K. We have the following files on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: Tools/workspace/Notes.1.1.N.bs.tar.gz Tools/workspace/NXNotePad.1.0.N.b.tar.gz I only looked at the README's, so I don't know if they fulfil your wishes. Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
From: jorn@gih.no (Jorn Wroldsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Playing .au files on the NeXT Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:30:35 Organization: gih Distribution: world Message-ID: <jorn.6.000D82E2@gih.no> Can anyone tell me how I can listen to .au files on my NeXT-station? Thanks in advance, J. Wroldsen
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Playing .au files on the NeXT Date: 19 Sep 1994 11:43:57 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35jtht$766@tequesta.gate.net> References: <jorn.6.000D82E2@gih.no> Jorn Wroldsen (jorn@gih.no) wrote: : Can anyone tell me how I can listen to .au files on my NeXT-station? : Thanks in advance, : J. Wroldsen Just rename the .au extension to .snd Otherwise use GISO.app found at the major ftp sites. -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | 19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Playing .au files on the NeXT Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:16:17 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <35jveh$qgk@vega.info.isbiel.ch> >Can anyone tell me how I can listen to .au files on my NeXT-station? > >Thanks in advance, >J. Wroldsen Simply rename the file to .snd (It worked for me almost always) Oli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. They deserve a hearty Thanks (and here it is!) Message-ID: <1994Sep19.150944.11753@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:09:44 GMT William Shipley writes > rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes: > > Doom is our business now too; we'll be selling it come DOOMSDAY. I'll > post an 800 number to call with your credit card should you want a copy. > I will be buying Doom II when it comes out. However, I have both NEXTSTEP and DOS/Windows installed on my Intel machine and would like to be able to play Doom in either OS. Is there any way that I can do this (i.e. getting both versions with a combined license to run on only one machine) or do I have to buy both versions? Thanks, and keep up the good work... -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Message-ID: <CwDo7I.rC@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <35cn69$h3m@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:02:05 GMT A way to use rz/sz with kermit is to add the following aliases to your .kermrc file : define rz !/usr/local/bin/rz \%1 \%2 \%3 <\v(line) >\v(line),- output \13,- !/usr/local/bin/say 'kermit. receive. trensfer complete' ,- connect define sz !/usr/local/bin/sz \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 <\v(line) >\v(line),- output \13,- !/usr/local/bin/say 'kermit. send. trensfer complete' ,- connect Permissions on /dev/cufa (or whatever) may need to be changed. Way to use for receive : foreign host (23) > sz a-file <enter> some sz output on foreign host control-] c back to kermit prompt kermit> rz <enter> way to send is quite similar Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <jkv@sware.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 94 11:00:53 -0400 From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Sender: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Message-ID: <9409191500.AA16597@woof.sware.com> Subject: using SoftPC I am currently working on upgrading my machine at home from a 286 running DOS to a Pentium. I would like to run NeXTStep (I use it at work) but I am thinking about OS/2 since I have a sizable investment (both time and $$) in DOS software (electronic banking, tax preparation, home budgeting/inventory, etc). I would like to hear about anyone's experience using SoftPC on the current release of NeXTStep on Intel h/w. In particular, the performance, compatability, ease of use (my kid will end up using it too!) and any problems anyone has had. If it works reasonably well, I will buy NeXTStep; but I can not afford to throw away what I already have, unless the apps that I am using exist in native form under NeXTStep. thanks in advance Joe Vossen (jkv@sware.com)
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. They deserve a hearty Thanks (and here it is!) Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:16:27 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35kdgr$kl4@anshar.shadow.net> References: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep19.150944.11753@il.us.swissbank.com> Eric_Brown (ericb@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote: : I will be buying Doom II when it comes out. However, I have both NEXTSTEP and : DOS/Windows installed on my Intel machine and would like to be able to play : Doom in either OS. Is there any way that I can do this (i.e. getting both : versions with a combined license to run on only one machine) or do I have to : buy both versions? All you need to play DOOM II on both NeXTSTEP and DOS is the DOOM II wad file (it's the exact same file on all platforms), and the DOOM 1.666 DOS player (available everywhere, free). What you're paying for in DOOM (for DOS, and most platforms) is the wad file, not the player. Omni is charging for the NS Doom player because they've added extra NS-specific functionality.
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:29:31 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <35ke9b$9m@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <35a0vv$172@zebu.abstractsoft.com> In article <35a0vv$172@zebu.abstractsoft.com> begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) writes: > Why is it, that when someone or some company writes a cool app that > they are making available for FREE to the community people expect this > someone or some company to provide the same kind of regular updates > and customer service as if they'd paid for the app AND get bent out of > shape when it doesn't happen? > No, not so bent out of shape. Just curious. There was quite a bit of discussion about bringing it into the mainstream as a commercial-paid-for app, how much would we be willing to spend, lots of development work ... then all quiet. The mail list is dead, too. Just wondering, that's all. Wondering where it's going. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 19 Sep 1994 18:45:05 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <35km7h$2fs@sundog.tiac.net> References: <35j27u$pag@tequesta.gate.net> Robert Wilson writes > Now has anybody got it working with dynamic IP addressing? That is what I do not know. I have no idea about it. I have heard that TransSys can. shigeru
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 15:40:32 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <35kpfg$iu7@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> References: <CvGFyv.2Gp@damonc.tor.hookup.net> <1994Sep6.002857.7676@tdkt.mn.org> <34qrbn$i8f@crcnis1.unl.edu> <jpanicoCw0pt2.DwD@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud : The author claims that the DataWindow component is the reason for PB's : success. This is incorrect. PB is a top-seller because it is one of : the better environments available for Windoze. : ^^^^^^^ : I'm a NextStep user, so obviously I'm a biased religious fanatic, : right? :-) I'd like to see OpenStep for NT. Windows users could use : an open OO development/user enviroment. They need a better GUI too. : Most of them don't know, yet. Others know but couldn't leverage their : current investment without OpenStep/NT. >In fact, I don't see why NeXT needs to be in the operating system business >at all. How many Posix compliant implementations of Mach do we need, now >that we have OSF1 and that the next version of OS/2 (IBM workplace OS) will >also be just that? Wouldn't NeXT be in a more competetive position to >concentrate all there resources on what they do best, namely OpenStep. >NeXT cannot hope to match the resources of IBM and Digital and Microsloth. >Though PowerBuilder may be a more shallow solution than EOF, I bet there >are many instances where management just wants a shallow FAST FAST FAST >solution (god knows it's true here). Microsloth didn't get to where they >are by providing good technology. But they did provide a quick and dirty >fix to the problem at hand, and rapidly gained control of the market based >on that. In the same vein, I doubt EOF will ever be wildly successful unless >it can REALLY live up to NeXTs claims that it DRAMATICALLY cuts development >time, i.e. comes with a really wizzy interface builder that works a heck >of a lot better than DBKit. >: pohl c/o jham@unlinfo.unl.edu >: low-temperature flames only. >Joe Panico >jpanico@netcom.com That was precisely my point, though in much better prose. Jean-Marc debaud@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson) Subject: missing linefeeds Message-ID: <1994Sep19.195813.2078@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Keywords: linefeeds, mackermit Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 19:58:13 GMT I use MacKermit on a Mac at home to dial in to my office NeXT Cube. I dial in to my university network, and then connect to the NeXT. I have the NeXT set up to recognize the connection as a vt100 terminal. The problem is that when I am logging in, or writing a message in mail, carriage returns are not accompanied by linefeeds. This does not happen in vi, nor when I work on the NeXT directly at the console, nor when I telnet from another computer on the network. Also, the problem only seemed to start about a year ago, but I can't pin down exactly when. I know there are easy workarounds, such as using vi in mail, or adjusting MacKermit to give an extra linefeed (in the latter case, you get double when you quit mail), but being a purist, I think there must be a proper way to correct this. For example, should I use a specification from etc termcap other than vt100? Thank you in advance for your help. Bill Anderson
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:26:36 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <35ks5s$kce@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> References: <siTBOPG00iV546Sl5c@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud >> Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath >> NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and >> to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. >> I expereinced both. >For one thing, there is a vast difference in the level of functionality >provided by a Unix-based operating system (such as NEXTSTEP) and what >MS-DOS or Windows gives you. >However, your assertion that 'If something goes wrong underneath NS, it >is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong...' is misleading >at best and wrong in general. Heck, neither DOS nor Windows provides >seperate address spaces for each process nor adequate memory protection. > An error in one component can cause the entire system to crash, or >cause strange (not reproducable) errors in a particular application when >the real cause of the problem originated elsewhere. >Unix systems have the immensely important advantage that a problem in >one process will not corrupt other processes or bring down the system. True for the difference in the level of functionality, yet to be used on a vast scale it has to be simpler. That's a reason why UNIX hasn't broken much out of Universities and a few corp. Want to put this on a set-top box ? Second, you are right that the OS supports task security but again it was not my point. Try to install a unix system and configure the net. If somthing goes wrong it is very difficult to fix unless you are the root guy (menaing having a lot of exp. doing things like that). Under DOS or the legalized virus (window 3.x) it is still much easier. Again I have done both. >> But back on the app dev subject. >> >> I'll invite you to take some time AWAY from your NEXTSTEP IB/PB >> and DBKIT and spend some times with VISUAL C++, ACCESS 2.0, VB3.0 >> and the like. And more importantly with the add-ons supplied by >> 3rd parties. >Many people on this group have used such products, and are more then >happy to be using NEXTSTEP now. Sure. I am one of them. I am just trying to argue about what NS could do to help itself. >[ ... ] >> Many companies do not write the same type of application over and >> over. So enterprise object reuse is therefore limited except >> in maintenance. >Is that an opinion, or do you claim to have some sort of study >supporting this? I know that many companies using NEXTSTEP really do >have object libraries that they reuse time and time again. Yes, you may not agree with it for the sake of contradiction but many companies write one of a kind app geared towards solving one problem in their organization or buisness. >> What would I do today ? Wait for some NS pallettes ? Or use something >> else that already exists and that can save me time now to complete my >> app. >NEXTSTEP'll save you more time designing most complete applications then >the tools you are advocating. Did you mention anything about some sort of study supporting some claims above ? >> What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT >> should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call >> kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... >> That is what we need. >They're already available under NEXTSTEP. You have things like Unix >sockets, typed streams, DO/PDO, and so forth for network communications. > You have Pixars' RenderMan and the Interceptor library for video, etc. Those two examples many but what about the rest. I may be misinformed but I doubt very greatly that there is the same availability of pallettes on NS as there are components under VB3.0 for instance. True, the VB VBX component architecture is flawed but remember that what one can develop quickly is what usually wins with management unless you live under one enlighted management. Few of us dummies do. >> There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX >> (MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools >> for network management still are way too complex for the average user. >So what? NEXTSTEP, with NFSManager, NetInfoManager, >SimpleNetworkStarter, and so forth offer one of the best and easiest to >use interfaces into Unix networking available. If you want a high level >of functionality, you have to deal with a certain level of complexity. True but many people will be put off and believe the other story. That is that the legalized virus is better and easier to use. Your argument is fine but too elitist. The learning curve for using and especially setting up and programming NS is too steep for the average guy. Patronising them with versatility and complexity arguments works for the educated but not for the rest. Guess who achieve mass market and eventually bury whom. >> Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Nice word, but it's too bad you don't know what it means: > >on-tol-o-gy \aHn-'taHl-e-jeE\ >[NL ontologia, fr. ont- + -logia -logy] >1: a branch of metaphysics concerned with the nature and relations of being >2: a particular theory about the nature of being or the kinds of >existents -- on-tol-o-gist \-jest\ n My turm. LET ME TRY TO EDUCATE YOU for once. In computer science and more particularly in AI, the term ontology is used as a derivative of the 2: definition. People use is to denote the set of artifacts (objects, rationales, historical events, intrinsic artifact structures, articulation, etc...) that together form the nature of being of something. Let me take a example at your level. Think of a bycicle. Now go and write an essay that describe the basic principle of a bycicle, the parts it is made of and how they achieve what a bicycle does. Put in some historical perspective and some statistics about how it is used by the population and many more aspect fo the beast and guess what: You've got an ontology !!! (Very simple one of course) >> If something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for >> the dummies. >Why would something go wrong? Those are owned by root, and normal users >can't change them at all (that multiuser file ownership thing under >Unix, you see). If you have people messing with a machine as root when >they don't know what they're doing, that's certainly not the fault of >Unix or NEXTSTEP. See my point above. Anybody does know how to do what root managers do. So hire yourself a geek first. This I can sell very well to the money people. And by the way, thanks for the file ownership patronage. You just made my point. You see I use NS everyday at home and I just trying to explainto you why it is not gaining the acceptance the technology may deserve. But, you are just treating me as a non-techie idiot. Fine. This attitude wont convert many prospective users. Dos or the legalized virus people will. They are not so arrogant. Paraphrasing someone else. It's the technology complexity, stupid. >> So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and >> as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available >> it cannot more into the mainstream. >You are mistaken on both counts. NEXTSTEP is the easiest Unix-based >system I know of to set up, and it has the highest baseline level of >functionality of any operating system on the market. >-Chuck >Charles William Swiger On the UNIX account, i do fully agree. But this won't make it ubiquitous. Why should I jump to UNIX ? That's the point. As for the KITs availability I may be mistaken and ready to admit it but I need to do some real checking around because there isn't much pallettes around the FTP sites (FTP.CS.ORST.EDU or at PURDUE) and I have very rarelly seen any advertisement for NS pallettes in trade magazines. Regards, JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:38:12 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <35ksrk$kie@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <35jjj1$9fs@samsara.circus.com> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud >Just a little quibble... I like that ! >In article <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu>, >Jean-Marc Debaud <debaud@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: >> [. . .] >>Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath >>NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and >>to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. >>I expereinced both. >Actually, from my experience, usually the non-UNIX platforms give absolutely >NO EXPLANATION about what has happened. On a mac, for example, you get a >little bomb. In DOS/Windows, the system will just lock up, or the shell will >die. In UNIX, you might even get -- get this -- an error message that helps >explain things. Yes, I admit, some people won't understand a message like >"NFS server foobar not responding", but it sure beats just locking up and >crashing like many other platforms do. True, but you can reconstruct the configuration in DOS, Mac or the legalized virus (windows). This fairly quickly. With UNIX, the entries made to fairly numerous files can become corrupt (inconsistent) and then one is doomed. It then takes some serious work and learning. Or I may be dumb which is probably the case. >> [. . .] >>What would I do today ? Wait for some NS pallettes ? Or use something >>else that already exists and that can save me time now to complete my >>app. > >>What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT >>should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call >>kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... >>That is what we need. >Umm, just what kind of palettes are we missing? I've seen generic socket >objects and networking objects available for NS both freely and from third >parties. I've seen a couple other things around, too. There's a bunch of >third party palettes and objects already available. Did you check? Just comparing the slew of components available under VB3.0 and NS. True, the comparison is not really fair but in term of speed of putting something together it is very much so. As I said to someone else, there isn't much of the FTP sites and I have very rarelly seen advertisements for NS pallettes in trade magazines. >>There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX >>(MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools >>for network management still are way too complex for the average user. >>Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. If >>something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for >>the dummies. >I'm sorry. I can't parse the above paragraph, it's too complex for me. :) Arghh...caught in the act. Yes, sorry for the English... I get carried away ;-) >>Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain >>things up. >> >>So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and >>as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available >>it cannot more into the mainstream. >Okay, so you want it simpler, but you want more kits. Something tells me >you're asking for some contradictory things... Can;t argue with this. Complex things are not easy... My point is that we need both a simpler OS installation/management paradigm and more Kits... Although I think the argument is now academic. The masses are already convinced that UNIX is too complex. Windows will win the ubiquity war in the long term by slowly integrating UNIX tech features and make this debate meaningless. Regards, JM debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: meinhorn@einhorn.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Martin B. Einhorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD Software similar to Telix or Procomm for NeXT? Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:17:03 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <35kv4f$9nu@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <2958@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> In article <2958@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > > Terminal & kermit work just fine for me. Anybody know where to find kermit via ftp? Is there documentation for it?
From: root@dusya.osd.com (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Phone Kit Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:42:57 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <35l0l1$v4@kesha.seanet.com> Does anyone know where is the company that own Phone kit? How do I contact them. Is it available on FTP?
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DarkForest fat? Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:30:19 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <35kvtb$356m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> hi well, subject line says it all. anyone know if the folks responsible for this fine app ever compiled it for intel? kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:58:08 GMT Organization: Rice University Distribution: world Message-ID: <35l1hg$c83@larry.rice.edu> References: <siTBOPG00iV546Sl5c@andrew.cmu.edu> <35ks5s$kce@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> In article <35ks5s$kce@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes: >Second, you are right that the OS supports task security but again it >was not my point. Try to install a unix system and configure the net. >If somthing goes wrong it is very difficult to fix unless you are the >root guy (menaing having a lot of exp. doing things like that). Under >DOS or the legalized virus (window 3.x) it is still much easier. You can't be serious. Networking using DOS, Novell, and WfWG should be the punishment in one of the rings of hell. When we first tried WfWG, things were fine for about 2 weeks, then all of a sudden, the machines could only get a single connection to the SQL server. We eventually found a rather diabolical work around that involved having our cards pretend to be another brand. (Then there was my friend at a Mac/Unix shop. When they installed DOS/ Windows machines, they had to rename all their portable source, because they hadn't followed Gates' 8.3 decrees.) -- Mike "Agent of Chaos" Swaim swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | Disclamer: I lie. | "Boingie"^4 -YW&D If you know why a gay person is like a Visa Gold Card, PLEASE TELL ME.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PNI 1.11: TcL crashed after dialing .... Date: 19 Sep 1994 22:28:03 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <35l39j$fj7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Sep14.065325.333@kurt.in-berlin.de> In article <1994Sep14.065325.333@kurt.in-berlin.de>, Gerald Erdmann <gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de> wrote: >Hi, > >After installing and configuring TransSys PNI 1.11 I tried to open a connection >all the time I got some error messages from TcL interpreter: > Well its not quite a crash. I would suggest putting a tty debug 7 in the TCL file and reviewing the dialog between modems. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Information on OpenWrite Message-ID: <1994Sep20.033103.8094@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 03:31:03 GMT Does anyone have the information on the new "OpenWrite" word processor? Thanks in advance. -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 00:39:07 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35ks5s$kce@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 19-Sep-94 Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Missi.. by Jean-Marc Debaud@cc.gate > Second, you are right that the OS supports task security but again it > was not my point. Try to install a unix system and configure the net. Well, that's easy under NEXTSTEP, but getting the machine set up is a problem for a system adminstrator, not a regular user. Once the system is up, Unix systems are much more difficult to corrupt or accidentally damage the filesystem. The difficulty of setup is not particularly relevant to the merits of a platform for development work. > If somthing goes wrong it is very difficult to fix unless you are the > root guy (menaing having a lot of exp. doing things like that). For normal users, the only problem's they're likely to run into is 'segmentation violation -- core dumped'. And they can find out what happened via 'gdb _executable_ _corefile_'. Try getting that level of debugging support under DOS or Windows. [ ... ] > >NEXTSTEP'll save you more time designing most complete applications then > >the tools you are advocating. > > Did you mention anything about some sort of study supporting some claims > above ? They're are a fair number of 'em. Take a look at the OS that's been winning the awards in object-oriented design and rapid prototyping. Compare IB and Objective-C versus Visual Basic for producing a simple application (say, one that requires about 2 days of programming time). Spend some time doing user interface usability studies (HCI). > True, the VB VBX component architecture is flawed but remember that > what one can develop quickly is what usually wins with management unless > you live under one enlighted management. Few of us dummies do. ^^^^^^^^^^ I thought you were doing a Ph.D. thesis? >> So what? NEXTSTEP, with NFSManager, NetInfoManager, >> SimpleNetworkStarter, and so forth offer one of the best and easiest to >> use interfaces into Unix networking available. If you want a high level >> of functionality, you have to deal with a certain level of complexity. > > True but many people will be put off and believe the other story. That > is that the legalized virus is better and easier to use. Your argument > is fine but too elitist. The learning curve for using and especially > setting up and programming NS is too steep for the average guy. Why? Objective-C is much easier to learn then C++. Learning to program under NEXTSTEP involves well thought out examples and learning Digital Librarian. The other environments are quite inferior; for example, just take a look at their documentation systems..... >>> Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. [ ... ] > > My turm. LET ME TRY TO EDUCATE YOU for once. > [ ...much sillyness deleted... ] > > You've got an ontology !!! (Very simple one of course) Don't waste my time. I'm not impressed by people who throw buzzwords into their writing and can't even manage to use them correctly. Hint: look big words up in a dictionary if you don;t knwo what they mean. > >Why would something go wrong? Those are owned by root, and normal users > >can't change them at all (that multiuser file ownership thing under > >Unix, you see). If you have people messing with a machine as root when > >they don't know what they're doing, that's certainly not the fault of > >Unix or NEXTSTEP. > > See my point above. Anybody does know how to do what root managers do. I can't understand that comment. > So hire yourself a geek first. This I can sell very well to the money > people. And by the way, thanks for the file ownership patronage. What patronage? You seemed to have missed the point that Unix's multiuser capabilities are the primary reason that Unix systems are so stable and prevent normal users from damaging the system. > You just made my point. You see I use NS everyday at home and I just > trying to explain to you why it is not gaining the acceptance the > technology may deserve. The reasons NEXTSTEP isn't gaining a large user base is no because of it's technology (or the lack thereof); it can be attributed pretty directly to purely economic factors. [ ... ] > Paraphrasing someone else. > > It's the technology complexity, stupid. Sure: adapt or perish. (Paraphrasing Charles Darwin.) [ ... ] > On the UNIX account, i do fully agree. But this won't make it ubiquitous. Why do you assume that NEXTSTEP must be 'ubiquitous' to be sucessful? > Why should I jump to UNIX ? That's the point. Unix is Unix. MS-DOS is MS-DOS. I would expect that the difference between the two is completely obvious to anyone is the computing industry...surely I don't need to actually compare them in order to demonstrate 'why you should jump to Unix'? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan) Subject: OmniWeb & Internet connections? Message-ID: <dchanCwEzv4.HCA@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:11:27 GMT All, I'm thinking of getting a third party connection to the Internet that will support OmniWeb. Does anyone have any good suggestions or experiences that they would like to share with me? Will a connection like the one offered by Netcom's NetCruiser work with OmniWeb? Thanks. -Derek
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DarkForest fat? Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:58:25 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> References: <35kvtb$356m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <35kvtb$356m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, Kelley Wittmeyer <kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: >hi > >well, subject line says it all. anyone know if the folks >responsible for this fine app ever compiled it for intel? Yeah, it's in /NextDeveloper/Demos... I think since 3.2. -Adam -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 20 Sep 1994 00:17:40 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> References: <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu> Throwing yet another quibble into the fray. Yeah, I do like unix a lot, but... In article <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >[ ... snip ... ] Once the system >is up, Unix systems are much more difficult to corrupt or accidentally >damage the filesystem. Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Would you say the same for a UNIX system? >> So hire yourself a geek first. This I can sell very well to the money >> people. And by the way, thanks for the file ownership patronage. > >What patronage? You seemed to have missed the point that Unix's >multiuser capabilities are the primary reason that Unix systems are so >stable and prevent normal users from damaging the system. But hey, he does see the value in hiring a geek. That's cool with me! :) >The reasons NEXTSTEP isn't gaining a large user base is no because of >it's technology (or the lack thereof); it can be attributed pretty >directly to purely economic factors. I suspect that it's more because NEXTSTEP is deep, complicated, and generally unknown. While "Steve Jobs" is a household word, "NEXTSTEP" isn't. The general marketing approach used goes after big sales while practically hiding from the market which isn't either fortune 500 or government. I don't really know why this is. [adam offSoapbox: YES]; -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. (now: DOOM for DOS and NEXTSTEP) Date: 20 Sep 1994 00:13:03 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35m21v$rkd@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep19.150944.11753@il.us.swissbank.com> Eric_Brown writes: >[about DOOM] Is there any way that I can do this (i.e. getting both >versions with a combined license to run on only one machine) or do I have to >buy both versions? We haven't talked with Id about this. We're selling the NEXTSTEP player because we've tuned it up and put some effort into it, and we'd be kinda miffed if people just take the shareware player and use the commercial WAD and don't ever give us any money for our work. Not that you were suggesting that, but I'm just pointing it out in case anyone thinks of it. DOOM for NEXTSTEP is an experiment for Omni and for Id, if it doesn't sell it's not just going to mean disappointment for us, it's going to mean Omni isn't going to bother to write or publish any more NEXTSTEP games. -Wil PS: With the emergence of "Lode Runner: The Legend Continues", you might want to check out Kong on http://manta/Software/Kong/. Kong was written in Fortran at the University of Washington by the same guy who wrote Lode Runner. We ported it to NEXTSTEP on a lark. It's eerily familiar, although someone has messed with the dragon code to make them more smart
From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 20 Sep 1994 10:43:35 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <35mecn$aqi@nic.lth.se> References: <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu> <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> In article <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes: > >Throwing yet another quibble into the fray. Yeah, I do like unix a lot, >but... > >In article <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu>, >Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >>[ ... snip ... ] Once the system >>is up, Unix systems are much more difficult to corrupt or accidentally >>damage the filesystem. > >Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting >it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You >can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Would >you say the same for a UNIX system? Er .. actually, you're both wrong and right. You can not, in fact, just power off a DOS machine, or yank out a DOS floppym during disk access; doing this _will_ cause data loss and/or disk damage. This has nothing to do with the OS; it's just a physical property of disks. Now, the reason that Unix filesystems get "more" damaged, is that the "write" system call does not do actual disk access -- it simply puts the information into a kernel buffer, and the corresponding sector(s) on the disk is/are marked as "dirty". Every now and then, the kernel synchronises the contents of the memory buffers and the physical disks. An addition, there is information stored in most unix filesystems indicating wether a filesystem was unmounted cleanly or not. In contrast, the DOS file system relies on the fact that read/write operations are carried out on the physical dusk itself, with no buffering in between. This means, that (unless the write is physically interrupted by, say, switching off the computer or yanking the disk from the drive), the data on the disk accurately represent what we expect them to. It also means that write:s are _slow_. So, most Hard Disks these days contain a memory buffer known as the _cache_; if the OS wants to read from the disk, the disk first fetches the data from the physical disk and places it in the cache, then blasts it to the computer. Writes are handled similarly: the computer sends the data to the disk, which simply stores it in its cache, and writes it to the physical disk at a convenient time -- usually, as soon as possible. Does this look familiar ? Yes -- it performs almost exactly the same function as the Unix file system does, only, MS-DOS knows nothing about it. However, if you yank power, or reboot the machine, at any time between a)(msdos starts sending data to disk cache) and b)(disk finishes writing data from cache to physical disk), then your file system is just as hosed as the corresponding Unix file system. Only, the MS-DOS file system does not contain any information about wether it is clean, dirty, or whatever. This doesn't mean that an error did not occur, it simply means that errors can not be detected. There's a _big_ difference. Under Unix, the "fsck" program can help you repair a damaged filesystem. Most Unixes will perform "fsck" on every drive that is not marked as "unmounted cleanly", whenever the system boots. Under DOS, however, there is no such check, and you just boot into whatever filesystem you have -- even a corrupt one. And the user is none the wiser; except for the fact that data might not be what they should. There are probably some simplifications, and even errors, in the above; but I beleive that I have caught the most important points at least not completely incorrectly. And, in the light of this, I can only say that I find the Unix approach much more comfortable than MS-DOS's "hope it works" philosophy. Best regards // Christian Brunschen -- | Christian Brunschen, Husmansv. 26, S-227 38 Lund, Sweden | | voice/fax/data +46 (0)46 139345, email d89cb@efd.lth.se | | PGP 2.2 Public Key available on request. | ObCelebrityQuote: | | "Oh, foo." | | - Andrew R. Koenig (ark@research.att.com) after dropping a piece | | of chalk during a lecture on C++ in Lund, Sweden, April 1993 |
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Insignia Solutions Contact? Date: 20 Sep 1994 12:19:46 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <35mk12$2g4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Can anyone please supply me with email or voice contact for Insignia? Thanks. Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <jpanicoCwFKKo.BuK@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:38:48 GMT Jean-Marc Debaud (debaud@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com writes: : So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and : as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available : it cannot more into the mainstream. I just have to interject something here. What's so easy to use and conceptually non-complex about windows? In all sincerity, it took me only about 5 hours to install NS on my machine, whereas it literally took me days to get windows to work properly. What is simple about 640K memeory segments, and the conceptual complexity needed to "break the 640k" barrier. I tried to get a MPC compliant game running running under windows and it literally took me 2 days, and hours on the phone with the guy from Electronic Arts about how to arrange all the stuff in the autoexec.bat,config.sys, win. whatever it was. : So I move to something else. : Jean-Marc. : ===================================================================== : You wrote originally (thanks again for the insults): : > For real applications and REAL speed of development, something : > like Powersoft tools should be available on the NeXT, even if : > this means that NeXT should support or choose among some : > DB providers outthere. : I still don't get it (pardon my ignorance of PowerBuilder) when you : say "something like PowerBuilder tools...on the NeXT". What : functionality is desired that is currently not available from the : Application Kit, Enterprise Objects Framework, ProjectBuilder, : InterfaceBuilder, EOModeler? : > Yes, this is a call for a REAL DBkit pallette with a REAL : > DB oriented application OO Framework. : Well, DatabaseKit was, admittedly weak in many ways. Enterprise : Objects Framework is a SIGNIFICANT improvement, and DOES provide a : "REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does : support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most : PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. Most : are simply building screens/windows, spreading their application : logic all over the place, and tying directly to the database. I'll : say it again, PowerBuilder may be a terrific tool for building : DB-oriented applications quickly, it is NOT a terrific tool for : building object-oriented systems that have longevity and model the : enterprise. Great for building "new legacy applications"! : > PS: Ok, ok... not coincidently, I am doing a PhD on OO Framework : > dev. : In which case you should know better. You should realize that, while : object modeling of the enterprise is a more difficult (read longer) : process than building PowerBuilder-type applications, the payoff can : be significantly higher. You should realize that those same : companies will keep building those applications over and over again. : While that wouldn't necessarily change in an object-modeled scenario, : what does change is that a SIGNIFICANT (if done correctly) amount of : the business model/process/logic/etc. is wrapped up in APPLICATION : NEUTRAL objects that can be (relatively) easily re-assembled into new : applications. Of the total application logic (and code) a much : smaller percentage is application specific. : To modify a phrase made popular by the current U.S. President (and : this is not directed towards any one person): : "It's the objects stupid." : -- : Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com : --- : There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 10:55:33 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <oiTjTZS00WBM42WNZR@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35mecn$aqi@nic.lth.se> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 20-Sep-94 Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Missi.. by Christian Brunschen@efd. >> Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting >> it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You >> can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Would >> you say the same for a UNIX system? [ ... ] > There are probably some simplifications, and even errors, in the > above; but I beleive that I have caught the most important points at > least not completely incorrectly. And, in the light of this, I can > only say that I find the Unix approach much more comfortable than > MS-DOS's "hope it works" philosophy. I'm glad someone else wrote this, since I was going to. I agree with your points completely. Under Unix, you have some assurance that the system is aware of what it is doing and that if you do manage to corrupt part of your filesystem, fsck will find and hopefully correct the problem before it results in a more severe error. Under DOS, your posterior is swinging in the breeze. Heck, the way you shut down a machine running DOS is to simply turn it off. No attempt whatsoever is made to flush the disk caches (smartdrv or whatever). There is something completely wrong with a "operating system" that depends on blind luck to avoid trashing the filesystem. And yes, I have seen people reinstall software under DOS many a time because something got mangled. Besides, all of this is discussing abnormal shutdowns, which simply never happen to a properly configured Unix system with a UPS. People have had Unix machines continuously running under heavy load for over a year without going down. My personal machine's been up for a max of just a little over a month, but I shuffle hardware around pretty frequently. Let's hear how the average uptime for a DOS/Windows system compares! -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:03:42 GMT Organization: Rice University Message-ID: <35n14u$68@larry.rice.edu> References: <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu> <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> In article <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes: > >Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting >it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You >can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Actually, this will trash files. It's even worse if you're using smartdrive or WfWG 32 bit file access. That's how I usually get lost clusters. -- Mike "Agent of Chaos" Swaim swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | Disclamer: I lie. | "Boingie"^4 -YW&D If you know why a gay person is like a Visa Gold Card, PLEASE TELL ME.
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.gcc.help Subject: help compiling gcc2.6 on NeXT3.2/Intel Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:43:45 GMT Organization: MSU Int. Sys Lab Sender: punch@sol (Bill Punch) Distribution: world Message-ID: <35n3g1$167r@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> I got the gcc2.6 distribution from prep.ai.mit.edu and tried to install it. I used configure --target=i486-next-bsd as I had for other gcc's. It didn't work. After some screwing around it turns out that it requires CC and OLDCC to be cc -traditional-cpp to get past some pre-processor problems. OK, fine. I do the stage1 pass using make LANGUAGES=c and it FINALLY gets through the whole thing. Then, to my suprise, it started to create copies of all the include files in the build directory (/local/build/gcc2.6.0/include). Well, this is stage1, not install so now I think something else is wrong. My memory is that, in building 2.5.7, stage1 just build the libgcc1.a and quit, allowing me to do the "make stage1" and move on. Now this one is compiling a separate list of all the include files, making copies and going through all kinds of install-like things. Is this correct behavior? Any and all advice appreciated. >>>bill punch<<< punch@cps.msu.edu
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:12:48 -0700 Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA Message-ID: <35n8n0$h39@kerby.ocsg.com> References: <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu> <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> <35mecn$aqi@nic.lth.se> In article <35mecn$aqi@nic.lth.se>, Christian Brunschen <d89cb@efd.lth.se> wrote: >In article <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes: >> >>Throwing yet another quibble into the fray. Yeah, I do like unix a lot, >>but... >> >>In article <QiTaRfy00WBMECfr9z@andrew.cmu.edu>, >>Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >>>[ ... snip ... ] Once the system >>>is up, Unix systems are much more difficult to corrupt or accidentally >>>damage the filesystem. >> >>Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting >>it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You >>can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Would >>you say the same for a UNIX system? > >Er .. actually, you're both wrong and right. > >You can not, in fact, just power off a DOS machine, or yank out a DOS >floppym during disk access; doing this _will_ cause data loss and/or >disk damage. This has nothing to do with the OS; it's just a physical >property of disks. > >Now, the reason that Unix filesystems get "more" damaged, is that the >"write" system call does not do actual disk access -- it simply puts >the information into a kernel buffer, and the corresponding sector(s) >on the disk is/are marked as "dirty". Every now and then, the kernel >synchronises the contents of the memory buffers and the physical >disks. An addition, there is information stored in most unix >filesystems indicating wether a filesystem was unmounted cleanly or >not. > [ Good stuff deleted ] You forgot to mention the Berkeley Fast File System, access speed, sector compaction utilities, etc. -dpg -- Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:00:30 -0700 Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA Message-ID: <35n7vu$gvo@kerby.ocsg.com> References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> In article <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu>, Jean-Marc Debaud <debaud@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: > >Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com writes: > >>Jean-Marc Debaud writes [ stuff deleted ] >There is no contest in the quality, versatility and power of the UNIX >(MACH OS) but to many people this is too complex. The NEXTSTEP tools >for network management still are way too complex for the average user. >Precious little ontological support is provided in the doc. If >something goes wrong in 'cron' 'boot.rc' and the like, GOOD LUCK for >the dummies. > You're comparing apples to oranges. Is the boot sequence any simplier for Windows? What happens if something goes wrong there? What do you do? Re-install? What about those ini files? Few diagnostics exist to aid configuration debugging. On the surface, yes, I agree, UNIX is more complex than DOS but it isn't an equal comparison and Windows has reached a realm of its own complexity. -dpg -- Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
From: kc@yucca.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. (now: DOOM for DOS and NEXTSTEP) Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:05:28 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35n898$ti@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep19.150944.11753@il.us.swissbank.com> <35m21v$rkd@yucca.omnigroup.com> William Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote: [...] : PS: With the emergence of "Lode Runner: The Legend Continues", you might : want to check out Kong on http://manta/Software/Kong/. Kong was : written in Fortran at the University of Washington by the same guy who wrote : Lode Runner. We ported it to NEXTSTEP on a lark. It's eerily familiar, : although someone has messed with the dragon code to make them more smart Make that http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/Kong/... Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com> Message-ID: <9409201710.AA03694@nesteggs.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) From: "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@nesteggs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 12:10:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 ontology recapitulates philology Love to all y'all, Michael Crawford nesteggs Houston
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:38:11 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35n35j$43o@pubxfer2.news.psi.net> References: <35hhro$h57@tequesta.gate.net> <35j04f$apg@sundog.tiac.net> <35j27u$pag@tequesta.gate.net> Robert Wilson (rwilson@gate.net) wrote: : Now has anybody got it working with dynamic IP addressing? Yes. If you have a bootp server, part of the returned boot block contains your "real" network address. Their pre-defined PSI setup does the trick, and the manual describes the setting of the "Local IP Address" section of the "Expert" Inspector Panel to allow bootp-assigned dynamic address. Having set that properly, here's an example script I use to connect: echo 'Attempting to connect to boston.ts.psi.net...' /etc/teleconnect/etc/dobootp du0 echo 'Adding our default routing via its server...' /etc/route add default 38.145.204.127 1 Brian Hess Active Ingredients, Inc. bnh@active.com
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DarkForest fat? Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:31:40 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <35ngrc$o5@rosie.next.com> References: <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> In article <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes: ] In article <35kvtb$356m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, ] Kelley Wittmeyer <kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: ] >well, subject line says it all. anyone know if the folks ] >responsible for this fine app ever compiled it for intel? ] ] Yeah, it's in /NextDeveloper/Demos... I think since 3.2. Actually, it's new in 3.3. Erik
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DarkForest fat? Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:22:10 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <35n27i$k0q@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> In article <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes: [...] > > Yeah, it's in /NextDeveloper/Demos... I think since 3.2. > > -Adam > Actually, it looks like it will be part of 3.3 (it is not part of 3.2) -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: tony_mccall@wiltel.com (Tony McCall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP for Intel --- TransSys PNI Date: 20 Sep 1994 19:51:20 GMT Organization: WilTel Distribution: USA Message-ID: <35nefo$5kg@gateway.wiltel.com> Keywords: SLIP Does anyone know where I can get the latest (unexpired) version of TransSys PNI or phone number for them. I recently downloaded the app from Oregon St. and found out that it has expired. If the final release is out, I will pay money for it. Imagine that. Tony McCall WilTel tony_mccall@wiltel.com
From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Mail cryptor bundle Date: 20 Sep 1994 22:26:49 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MURPHY.94Sep20182651@eos.wsc.com> Anyone know if NeXT is planning on leaving the hooks for cryptor bundle in future releases of mail? Painless PGP is really wonderful, especially now that it's legal! - Paul murphy@wsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Medical Software Needed Message-ID: <1994Sep20.202529.1545@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 20:25:29 GMT I am very frustrated. The solutions offered in both the NeXT in Healthcare and Third Party Products guide for Healthcare are a mess. I am looking of for a Clinical package for an Orthopedist. There are several things that look close to our needs, but either that product is not close to even beta, has been discontinued, the company is out of business, or the software is in French. The common thread among the apps is that it is possible they may have met the needs, but they were also listed as avaialble now in the most recent additions! This is complete BS. I have nothing against France, but I can not imagine having to translate the menu items to English for use. So, NeXT needs to get one of the target areas cleaned up and policed, or quit saying that Healthcare is a great area. Anyway, what I need is an application to track the most rudimentary patient information, and allow for scanned and other documents. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need a "trace" utility for 3.2 black...] Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:10:51 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <35o4nb$8p1@carina.unm.edu> Does anyone know where I can find a "trace" utility for NeXTstep 3.2 black? You know, the command thats supported by most unix systems...(AIX, Ultrix, SunOS...etc)... any Ideas? Bye bye, --Aaron... -- amb78@carina.unm.edu
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP/SLIP questions Date: 21 Sep 1994 03:35:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <35o9ln$c4u@crcnis1.unl.edu> My intel-based NextStep machine is not currently connected to the internet. (I'm using it at home.) I have been dialing into my account on a machine at my local university, which limits me to text-based e-mail. (That is, unless I'm willing to go through the rigmarole of downloading the message and transfering it to my local spool directory . . . yuk.) I have found a local internet service supplier that offers connections at a reasonable rate. However, their standard solution is no different than what I have now. The good news: they will allow me to set up a SLIP or PPP connection. Herm? Another question: Which protocol is more appropriate for me? Are there limitations that I should know about? Another: Is it possible (or even customary) to spool my mail on the service-provider's machine while my connection is down? (I don't want to add a dedicated line for this.) I'll check this board, or you can mail to me at jham@unlinfo.unl.edu Thank you, in advance, for your suggestions. -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: CryptorBundle-1.1 Bug Message-ID: <1994Sep18.192837.1569@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 19:28:37 GMT If you have installed version 1.1 of CryptorBundle, please correct the following bug (first become root and enter the following commands): chmod -R o+r cryptor.bundle chmod -R o+r encrypt_info.nib Otherwise only selected people would be able to use the bundle .... -- ----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de ----- Q. How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb? A. You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omni quiet .. (now: DOOM for DOS and NEXTSTEP) Date: 21 Sep 1994 00:43:47 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35odm3$rp@anshar.shadow.net> References: <35e5op$crj@yucca.omnigroup.com> <1994Sep19.150944.11753@il.us.swissbank.com> <35m21v$rkd@yucca.omnigroup.com> William Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote: : We haven't talked with Id about this. We're selling the NEXTSTEP player : because we've tuned it up and put some effort into it, and we'd be kinda : miffed if people just take the shareware player and use the commercial WAD : and don't ever give us any money for our work. I couldn't wait any longer. I just placed an order for DOOM II. Looks like I'll be dual-booting DOS for a while :-( until Omni's version ships. Has the NS version price been set? - Jay
From: eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 22:07:16 Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> I have an oppurtunity to obtain an evaluation copy of NS 3.1, and I would like to know a few things: 1. What is BSD's relationship with mach? 2. What is the workspace's relationship with the underlying OS (i.e. graphics server like X, shell like Windows...) 3. What is OpenStep (the capiTals are probably not riGHT:) and EOF? (A shell of NS for other OSs?) 4. Is insignia's SoftPC the only emulator available? How does it perform? 5. What is the best word processor and spread sheet for NeXT (any other cool applications that you can't find anywhere else?) 6. How difficult is it to port code developed under NS? 7. Am I correct in assuming that OOP is only a special way to write source and that there is *no* difference in compiling schemes? 8. Is bash or tcsh available for NS? 9. Where can I find out how to install NS on my white machine? Is NS compatible with only limited hardware, as NeXTanswers and my failure to install seems to imply? I think that NS is the coolest looking UNIX product I have ever seen in all my year of experience with UNIX. However, I forsee great difficulty installing it as it did not recognize my CD-ROM or mouse and gave me some pretty criptic error messages, so I may need some help (e-mail appreciated!). Is Linux a competitor for me, a UNIX hobbyist? They are both OSs, but NS is cooler but Linux is (very) widely supported, even if in an unspectacular manner. What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. Is NS worth my time? Thank You - Josh
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Date: 21 Sep 1994 04:37:51 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Here are my impressions of the relative merits of Cub'X Windows and co-Xist as X Windows solutions for NEXTSTEP. I have done extensive testing of both products. At least, it is extensive from the point of view of a single person with no official time to play with these things simply using them a lot before committing to buying either one. In any case, the following should be valuable to anyone wishing to run X under NEXTSTEP. Also, I would also appreciate suggestions for workarounds to the problems mentioned below. I offer one suggestion myself for one of the more annoying problems. (Note that these are the only options currently available for NEXTSTEP for Intel, as MouseX the non-commercial X solution for NeXT hardware does not run on Intel. Also, I believe both products should be available for HP shortly, if not already. They are both available for NeXT hardware as well.) Mostly, this is a list of problems I have encountered with Cub'X, which, other things being equal, I would prefer to buy for the two simple reasons that it has a cheaper academic price ($230 vs. $370 for co-Xist last time I checked) and I'm a student, and because the general net-impression seems to be that it is faster, and X within another operating system usually pays a performance hit to begin with (AND slow X is very painful with many applications). There are also one or two problems with co-Xist I will mention. [Note: oddly enough, Cub'X is more expensive for non-academic pricing: $540 vs. $490 for co-Xist, I think.] ----- Problems with the demo versions: Before mentioning the 3 or 4 specific problems, let me make a comment about the freely available crippled demos on the archive sites. (Both products have demo versions available on the archives, e.g., cs.orst.edu, which are crippled. Cub'X will quit after processing a certain number of X events, and co-Xist after functioning for 30 minutes.) The big problem with these demos, unlike many of the other crippled demos of other software packages is that they are not truly fully functional except for the early-quitting-crippling. They both have a number of shared problems which made them, for me, insufficient for the purposes of evaluating the products. The problems include: - Lack of the full font distributions which causes a number of X programs to just not plain run. You will also get an error message such as: Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-o-normal-*-14-*-iso8859-1" to type FontList - Lack of support for XView programs. (I'm not clear enough yet on excatly what XView programs or the XView libraries are to give a good consice description, but suffice it to say that they it all has to do with Sun's OpenLook/OpenWindows and that a number of X apps use/are XView, including the most important X app to me: my calendar program "cm".) I got the following error message trying cm: XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: calufrax:0.0 (Server package) - Lack of inclusion of a number of useful X binaries which come with the full distribution, lack of the development libraries with which to compile these locally, and lack of Motif. Now I'm not complaining that these demos need to be revamped. I simply want to: (a) warn people that if you are trying to make sure that every X app that is important to you runs perfectly before investing any money, you will be disappointed by the ftp'able demos. (b) To suggest to Intuitive and Pencom that if they don't modify the demos to be better alternative methods of fully evaluating the products need to be offered. When I talked to the Cub'X people (Intuitive) on the phone about my qualms about buying their product before I had even managed to get the most important X apps I wanted to run working at all (mostly cm) they were nice enough to send me out a CD of the full run time + developer distribution (which is the version I wanted to purchase) and give me a 1-month time-limited license number. I give 3 cheers to the Intuitive people for this and encourage them to offer this option to many others. (It will probably be worth there while in terms of getting my money soon.) It is this distribution version I have used to evaluate their product extensively and determine that many of the problems I found with the demo version did not go away in the full distribution version. (Luckily, cm and XView programs DO run in the full distribution version, so that most-significant-of-problems did go away.) In a recent discussion with the Pencom people, they told me they could not make the same offer to me. While I do not want to criticize them for not making available some better form of evaluation, because I understand there are impediments to such things in their product currently, I urge them to remove any obstacles to such better evaluation in the near future. ----- Problems with Cub'X: I encountered the following, in my opinion significant, problems with Cub'X. I would be interested to know if you encounter the same behavior, or more interested if you encounter different behavior, but most interested if you know of a good work-around for any of these problems. Before getting to real problems, note that Cub'X does not support 32-bit color mode under NEXTSTEP. That is, the program will not launch or function if NEXTSTEP is in 32-bit color mode, and of course a reboot is required to get out of 32-bit color mode. co-Xist, I'm fairly confident I checked this, will work fine with NEXTSTEP in 32-bit color mode. This problem is a known lack-of-feature with Cub'X, and while they said they want to add support for this, I believe any steps in this direction are on hold while they do their HP port. Also note that I'm running with a Miro Crystal 32S video card (4MB VRAM). Cub'X did not function under this video card until recently. (Support for this card was added via a patch to version 4.4, which can be considered version 4.5.) If you encounter different behavior with a different card, that could be significant and indicate that the patch for the Miro card is the source of some of the problems. - This is the most annoying problem I've found: Even though the documentation claims that Cub'X will support any of the keyboard mappings that can be selected from Preferences.app, the caps-lock key on my standard PC keyboard does not correct act as teh control key when using the NextUSA keyboard map (which should make caps-lock control, and control alternate, and use command-shift for caps-lock, like a NeXT keyboard). Furthermore, this problem cannot be alleviated by using xmodmap to remap the signal that the caps-lock key sends in this mode because it does not appear to generate any X event at all when depressed or released. (I determined this with the program xev.) - When Cub'X is in my dock, set to autolaunch, the .xinit file and a number of other X initializations (most importantly, the access control list initializations specified in the Cub'X preferences) don't get performed as they should, and as they do if I launch the program myself by double-clicking after I've already logged in. This is fairly annoying because it is very nice to have X just start up quietly in the background as soon as you log in. (I'm running mwm, but I suspect this problem will probably occur with other window managers as well.) - The next few problems apply to running Cub'X in "within-NEXTSTEP" mode where both X and NEXTSTEP windows are visible on the screen together. When you click on an X window which is under a NEXTSTEP window, but not under any other X windows, the X window does not correctly get raised to the front. (This applies whether there is an X root window or not. There is one mode, called "with one layer" where they are never supposed to come to the top on top of NEXTTSEP windows, but this is not what I am referring to.) This seems like a definite bug because: when there is another X window on top of the clicked on X window (but also under the NEXTSTEP window), the clicked-on X window will raise to the top above both the NEXTSTEP window and other X window. Also, if one clicks on the title bar of the X window and drags the window, even as little as one or two pixels, the window will correctly come to the front. The next two problems I don't consider nearly as significant as the first three (or the lack of 32-bit color support). - Also in "within-NEXTSTEP" mode, specifically in no-X-root-window mode, clicking on the NEXTSTEP background does not pull up the mwm/twm menus. I suspect it wasn't designed to, and there is a launching panel in the Cub'X NEXTSTEP menus for launching programs, but this isn't nearly as convenient and co-Xist does actuallly pull up the mwm menus when clicking on the NEXTSTEP background in its "integrated" rootless mode. It would be a really nice thing to have work. Especially since I can think of no way to ever pull up these menus at all (even a hard way) in this mode without changing modes and restarting Cub'X. - Also in "within-NEXTSTEP", rootless mode, when draggin windows, an outline of the window being dragged does not appear in order to show you where the edges of the window will be if you stop at that position. My work-around for this, is to set mwm into "opaque" window move mode, where the entire image of the window gets drags, as with NEXTSTEP windows, instead of just an outline. I think this is nice anyway when running inside NEXTSTEP for uniformity with the NEXTSTEP window interface. The Intuitive people might want to make this the default with the Cub'X installation. (I also have click for input focus style input-focus control on, instead of whichever window the pointer is in, also for uniformity.) I mentioned a few of these problems to someone at Intuitive regarding the demo, to which their response, as I've mentioned was to send me the full distribution CD. Since then I've sent two e-mails to them with no response (for 1-2 weeks now) about these problems and will attempt to call them soon. Perhaps they are tired of talking with me until I pay them some money, but I think these glitches are significant enough to warrant responses even though I'm not a paying customer yet. ----- Problems with co-Xist: I found fewer problems with co-Xist, but I also used it less extensively. Before I describe glitches and annoyances let me say that the biggest problem with this program is that it is just too slow for my taste. I won't describe benchmark numbers. I've taken a few, but they are available elsewhere or you can run them yourself. The numbers I did generate showed Cub'X to be much faster, rivaling the speed of normal X displays on Suns, Linux machines, and HP workstations. But, it isn't numbers which are important, it is the feel to the user. In co-Xist, even in its fastest possible mode, a number of things feel just way too slow for my comfort. Pulling down OpenLook style menus in my calendar program cm causes a small pause (maybe a second) which while short, is very annoying, Playing a simple, relatively slow (compared to say tetris), game called xblast is so slow as to be unplayable, etc. - The biggest glitch I've found involves "take-over" mode where X runs outside of NEXTSTEP on a separate screen. Under co-Xist, unlike under Cub'X, when you switch back to the NEXTSTEP screen while running co-Xist in this mode, you can still see the X background and all X windows. In fact you can still type in the X windows as long as some portion of them is not covered by NEXTSTEP windows. The only difference between the NEXTSTEP screen and X screens in this mode is that all the NEXTSTEP windows, dock, menus, etc. all appear as well, and that X performance is significantly reduced.(The only difference between the NEXTSTEP screen in this mode and the normal "integrated" mode is that in this mode, the X windows can't ever be brought in front of any NEXTSTEP windows. The problem is that X drawing events tend to cause the pointer to flicker. When you have an X window in which significant drawing is occurring and you switch to the NEXTSTEP screen, the pointer flickers seemingly uncontrollably, even when a NEXTSTEP window and app are the current window and app. (I think a simple way to see this effect should be to cat /usr/dict/words in an xterm.) The Pencom people told me that they just fixed a pointer flicker problem with a different mode, which may also fix this problem. But the person was unsure whether it would or not. I've encountered flicker as a problem in at least one other mode, so it may be a problem elsewhere, at least until fixed. This flicker problem is very significant like the first 3 Cub'X problems mentioned above. The following problem isn't, IMHO, as bad. - The way you switch back and forth between the NEXTSTEP screen and the X screen in this "take-over" mode is to click the left mouse button while holding down the command key. There is, as far as I know, no other way to do it. (In Cub'X, by contrast, there is a standard way, but also a menu item to do it, complete with command-key alternative.) As I said above, the X windows are still visible in the NEXTSTEP screen, thus allowing one to switch back to the X screen. However, when running Backspace.app with it set to background mode, no X windows are visible, and thus, there is no way that I can find (or that the Pencom people suggested when I talked to them on the phone), without changing the mode of backspace, to switch back to the X screen. ----- Summary: Cub'X seems to have more problems than co-Xist, but not all of the problems apply to all modes of running the package, so some problems may not even apply to you if you only run the package in particular modes. Also, the slowness of co-Xist may be significant enough if speed is important to you to put up with the problems of Cub'X. ----- I hope this info is useful to people. Comments or stories of your own experiences are welcomed. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep21.051624.10883@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <jpanicoCwFKKo.BuK@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 05:16:24 GMT Joe Panico writes: Joe, please watch your cutting & pasting (see below), you made this message look a little wierd (to me anyway) regarding who was saying what. Thanks! Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.progr ammer,comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.progr ammer,comp.sys.next.software Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:38:48 GMT Jean-Marc Debaud (debaud@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com writes: : So, yes NS is great but as long as it remains so complex in set-up and : as long as so FEW Kits (or whatever you wan to call them) are available : it cannot more into the mainstream. I just have to interject something here. What's so easy to use and conceptually non-complex about windows? In all sincerity, it took me only about 5 hours to install NS on my machine, whereas it literally took me days to get windows to work properly. What is simple about 640K memeory segments, and the conceptual complexity needed to "break the 640k" barrier. I tried to get a MPC compliant game running running under windows and it literally took me 2 days, and hours on the phone with the guy from Electronic Arts about how to arrange all the stuff in the autoexec.bat,config.sys, win. whatever it was. : So I move to something else. : Jean-Marc. : ===================================================================== : You wrote originally (thanks again for the insults): : > For real applications and REAL speed of development, something : > like Powersoft tools should be available on the NeXT, even if : > this means that NeXT should support or choose among some : > DB providers outthere. : I still don't get it (pardon my ignorance of PowerBuilder) when you : say "something like PowerBuilder tools...on the NeXT". What : functionality is desired that is currently not available from the : Application Kit, Enterprise Objects Framework, ProjectBuilder, : InterfaceBuilder, EOModeler? : > Yes, this is a call for a REAL DBkit pallette with a REAL : > DB oriented application OO Framework. : Well, DatabaseKit was, admittedly weak in many ways. Enterprise : Objects Framework is a SIGNIFICANT improvement, and DOES provide a : "REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does : support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most : PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. Most : are simply building screens/windows, spreading their application : logic all over the place, and tying directly to the database. I'll : say it again, PowerBuilder may be a terrific tool for building : DB-oriented applications quickly, it is NOT a terrific tool for : building object-oriented systems that have longevity and model the : enterprise. Great for building "new legacy applications"! : > PS: Ok, ok... not coincidently, I am doing a PhD on OO Framework : > dev. : In which case you should know better. You should realize that, while : object modeling of the enterprise is a more difficult (read longer) : process than building PowerBuilder-type applications, the payoff can : be significantly higher. You should realize that those same : companies will keep building those applications over and over again. : While that wouldn't necessarily change in an object-modeled scenario, : what does change is that a SIGNIFICANT (if done correctly) amount of : the business model/process/logic/etc. is wrapped up in APPLICATION : NEUTRAL objects that can be (relatively) easily re-assembled into new : applications. Of the total application logic (and code) a much : smaller percentage is application specific. : To modify a phrase made popular by the current U.S. President (and : this is not directed towards any one person): : "It's the objects stupid." : -- : Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com : --- : There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'. -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DarkForest fat? Date: 20 Sep 1994 23:58:19 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35olib$io5@samsara.circus.com> References: <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> <35ngrc$o5@rosie.next.com> In article <35ngrc$o5@rosie.next.com>, Erik Kay <erikkay@next.com> wrote: >In article <35m16h$dtp@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam >Deishu Beeman) writes: >] In article <35kvtb$356m@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, >] Kelley Wittmeyer <kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: >] >well, subject line says it all. anyone know if the folks >] >responsible for this fine app ever compiled it for intel? >] >] Yeah, it's in /NextDeveloper/Demos... I think since 3.2. > >Actually, it's new in 3.3. Oof... I suck. I really do. I should have checked before I opened my mouth. I guess now that Erik has confirmed this it's too late to act like I don't know what I'm talking about. So instead, I'll add the little point: Yet another reason to upgrade when 3.3 is out! :-) > >Erik -Adam -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: CD-Audio to NeXT-snd exist ??? Message-ID: <CwGMGI.ps@BITart.com> Sender: usenet@BITart.com Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 03:17:05 GMT In article <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) writes: > Is there a program, which read AudioCD into the NeXT as sndfiles ? > > All I found was a message for Jan94: > > In article <1994Jan20.200613.437@elin-ekt.co.at> Karl Prager (spock!charlie) wrote: > :>In article <9401141905.AA13378@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd > :>Knops) writes: > :>> Since many people asked for that, I finally decided to write an App, > :>> that enables you to read sound data from an AudioCD and store it in > :>> the NeXT .snd format ... ... ... > :>(cut) > > Has this Software been released somewhere. ? > Actually it has. It is available as part of a tools package. It is available at arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/gtools You are going to need the files GTools.NI.b.tar.gz and GKPlayer.GTool.NI.b.tar.gz. Gerti
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de (Markus Felten) Subject: RIB to VDAFS,IGES or STEP Message-ID: <1994Sep20.172447.2689@arlac.rhein-main.de> Keywords: converter RIB IGES STEP VDAFS Sender: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de Organization: MF Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:24:47 GMT Hello, I am locking for a filter that is able to convert RIB (Renderman) files to IGES,VDAFS or STEP files. Does anybody out there know something about such a tool. Any help would be gladly welcome. Thanks in advance, Markus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Markus Felten Phone: +049 6171 59387 Lange Str. 59 Email: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de 61440 Oberursel (NeXTMail welcome) Germany -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep20.155039.1136@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <35m2ak$e1k@samsara.circus.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 15:50:39 GMT > > Actually... just turn it off. Or snatch a removable disk without unmounting > it. Watch the sparks fly in UNIX when you do this, as compared to DOS. You > can power down a DOS system in the middle of a disk access and be OK. Would > you say the same for a UNIX system? > In 1978 I was running on a Microdata Reality running the Pick OS/Database, 6 users on terminals, about 128k main memory (total), about 64MB disk. Everyone could be deep into complex processes with many files open for reading and writing, and we could walk up to the machine, pull the plug, plug it back in, and everyone would be right back where they were. I know this is not really of any current significance, but I remain amazed to this day. -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: Todd_Samost@vos.stratus.com (Todd Samost) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP for Next ??? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:43:46 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <Todd_Samost-210994104300@jierardi.mis.stratus.com> Hi, I'm posting for a friend. He has a Next Cube w/NextStep 3.0 and would like a SLIP program for it..... I offered to request out to the net, tho' I know little of this machine/OS. Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware or shareware ftp site ? Or if there is a relatively cheap commercial package available ? Please email me with any responses: Todd_Samost@vos.stratus.com Thanks in advance !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (Scott Davenport) Subject: Signature in NeXTMail? Message-ID: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:54:37 GMT Is there a way to specify a default signature file in NeXTMail? I haven't been able to find any reference whatsoever in the help. -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need a "trace" utility for 3.2 black...] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 09:38:42 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4iU3RWG00iV1027hlS@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35o4nb$8p1@carina.unm.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 20-Sep-94 Need a "trace" utility for .. by Aaron M. Brown@unm.edu > Does anyone know where I can find a "trace" utility > for NeXTstep 3.2 black? You know, the command thats supported > by most unix systems...(AIX, Ultrix, SunOS...etc)... Well, the man page states that the trace command is not supported under NEXTSTEP (which is quite unfortunate). However, the call does exist and you may be able to glean some information about what's going on with an extensive and careful study of the gdb source code. Unfortunately, doing so is probably not worth the effort. What are you trying to accomplish, anyway? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax) Subject: NeXT, MIDI and speech... Message-ID: <1994Sep21.142203.7139@client40.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Originator: c92kl@client40.comlab Sender: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax) Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:22:03 GMT Could anyone PLEASE email me with the answer to any of these questions.... 1) where can I find a MIDI interface cable for the NeXT? 2) is it possible to make the DSP filter its output according to a frequency spectrum supplied to it in realtime, and hence synthesise speech? 3) anyone working in singing synthesis out there? Many thanks Ken
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:38:26 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <35pgh2$qck@news.tamu.edu> References: <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <35jjj1$9fs@samsara.circus.com> <35ksrk$kie@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> Keywords: palettes >>What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT >>should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call >>kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... >>That is what we need. I've following this thread and it prompted me to do a little research (counting actually :-)). I scanned the ObjectWare catalog from NeXT an counted (roughly) 100 palettes of various sorts. So, my question is...how many is a lot? Reguards. Ronald Pomeroy Senior EE Dweeb Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The Music Kit on a PC Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:33:48 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <35pg8c$h6k@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <940909090150.19677AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> <940919165149.5613AACUL.mmalc@hotaru> mmalcolm Crawford (mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp) wrote: : Sorry if people have seen this before -- I haven't seen it in any of the : c.s.n.newsgroups yet, but the connections from here are rather poor... : THE MUSIC KIT ON A PC : --------------------- : The Music Kit now runs on Intel hardware. : The 4.1 release of the CCRMA Music Kit and DSP Tools Distribution is : available free of charge by anonymous FTP from host : ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, directory pub/NeXT/MusicKit/. (It will be : posted in several weeks, after we return from the International : Computer Music Conference in Denmark.) I'm afraid that the version currently available on ccrma is still the 4.1-alpha and lacks the MPU-401 MIDI support mentioned below. I just noticed this after downloading the 15MB of the distribution ;-(. Perhaps somebody on the mkdist mailing list could inform us if the final 4.1 release is really available. : ----David Jaffe & Julius Smith ... : For Intel-processor MIDI support, the Music Kit provides a driver : supporting any MPU-401-compatible card. On NeXT hardware, MIDI is : done via the two built-in serial ports. ... : MIDI support is provided on Intel hardware through a new MPU-401 : driver that emulates the API and functionality of the 3.0 MIDI driver : for NeXT hardware, including support for synchronization to MIDI time : code. This driver supports such cards as those in the Music Quest : family. It also should work for Sound Blaster cards that support an : MPU-401 interface. This driver may be with or without the Music Kit. : Source to the driver is included in the Music Kit Source Package. -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) Subject: hidden buttons in CDplayer Message-ID: <1994Sep20.200506.1386@mjw.octagon.de> Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 20:05:06 GMT Hi there out! I once read here something about hidden buttons in the CDplayer.app. Now that I have a CD-drive *and* a connection to my stereo, I searched for them. One I think is the CD-icon, which lets me switch the track/time display. The second one is beneath the track counter, bringing up a tiny window called 'Track` with a input-field. What can be done with this?? Are there more hidden Buttons? Thanks --- Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de (NeXTmail OK!)
From: mvjones@novell.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mirroring Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:21:48 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Florida Message-ID: <35pmis$363@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Is there any mirroring software for Next other than the Perl scripts on CS.ORST.EDU? I am trying to compare an area on an FTP site with a local area, and need actual code to play with... Anyone? Matthew Jones mvjones@novell.com MHS ace-high@novell.com NeXTMail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: RBrowser Message-ID: <CwHnxE.M20@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:46:26 GMT Just reinstalling my system after a hardrive went up in smoke, and can't remember the ftp site with RBrowser on it. Any suggestions? thanx in advance jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: space on ms-dos_6 drive Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:04:16 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <35pp2g$8si@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Workspace Manager tells me I have 61 MB available on my DOS partition (ms-dos_6), while DOS tells me I have almost 200 MB available. Why the discripancy? Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GhostScript drops accented characters: a SOLUTION Date: 21 Sep 1994 12:12:28 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409211711.AA04904@cantina.lanl.gov> Some time back (three weeks ago?) I posted a query on this subject in this newsgroup. In brief, using GhostScript to drive an HP DeskJet 560C, I found I was unable to print any of the accent marks that I could see on my screen (e.g., in a Spanish or German RTF file). What came out was blanks where the characters with the diacritical marks were supposed to be. Was this a known problem and, if so, how to work around it? I got rather little response, but one person did usefully suggest that I post the same query to comp.lang.postscript. This did elicit a number of responses, e.g., from Peter Deutsch, Robert Lerche, Hank Seliger, Glen Newton, Brunt Clarke and probably others that I don't remember now (being 2000 miles away from my machine at home which is turned off for the month). Unfortunately, most of these respondents assumed I knew more about PostScript and how it handles fonts than I really wanted to know. The relatively simple solution (to what is really a GhostScript in NEXTSTEP problem) came from Steve Ludtke (steve@ion.rice.edu), the fellow who has been pursuing and solving the output through the parallel port problem in GhostScript (for the DJ 560C). It turns out that a relatively simple fix to the gs_init.ps file had been worked out earlier by Peter Pflaeging, to judge from the following comment in the preamble of the new gs_init.ps file Steve sent me: % NOTE: This is a special version of gs_init.ps, which is adapted for use % on NeXTstep. I've modified the character translation table for the NeXT % PostScript character set! (Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at) The distribution copy of GhostScript had these lines in gs_init.ps: % \30x /.notdef /grave /acute /circumflex /tilde /macron /breve /dotaccent /dieresis /.notdef /ring /cedilla /.notdef /hungarumlaut /ogonek /caron /emdash /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef % \34x /.notdef /AE /.notdef /ordfeminine /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /Lslash /Oslash /OE /ordmasculine /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /ae /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /dotlessi /.notdef /.notdef /lslash /oslash /oe /germandbls /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef /.notdef which Herr Pflaeger (a name that is just crying out for an umlaut!) revised to: % \30x (192-) /onesuperior /grave /acute /circumflex /tilde /macron /breve /dotaccent /dieresis /twosuperior /ring /cedilla /threesuperior /hungarumlaut /ogonek /caron /emdash /plusminus /onequarter /onehalf /threequarters /agrave /aacute /acircumflex /atilde /adieresis /aring /ccedilla /egrave /eacute /ecircumflex /edieresis % \34x (224-) /igrave /AE /iacute /ordfeminine /icircumflex /idieresis /eth /ntilde /Lslash /Oslash /OE /ordmasculine /ograve /oacute /ocircumflex /otilde /odieresis /ae /ugrave /uacute /ucircumflex /dotlessi /udieresis /yacute /lslash /oslash /oe /germandbls /thorn /ydieresis /.notdef /.notdef This works like a charm, and one can even see why it does. Thanks, Peter, and thanks again, Steve. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: graphing products for MCCAs -- what's good? Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:34:09 GMT Organization: Halaby Corp. Message-ID: <35pqqh$34q@news.acns.nwu.edu> Hi. I'm interested in hearing your suggestions/recommendations for a NextStep graphing package that I can integrate into my apps. The ones I've already looked at are ChartSmith and GraphPalette. ChartSmith makes great-looking graphs, but it's a little slow (you have to connect remotely to the running ChartSmith application, have it draw your graph, then download the PostScript into your app's view -- I understand the next release of ChartSmith will address this issue by allowing the server app to lock focus onto your app's view and draw directly into it). I would prefer a solution like GraphPalette's, which provides a local graph object you put in your nib. I've found this to be much faster (as expected) than the remote connection method. Another advantage GraphPalette has over ChartSmith is it lets you dynamically interact with the graph (you can catch mouse clicks on the points of the graph). This would be nice to have. Unfortunately, the GraphPalette graph is much harder to custom configure than the ChartSmith graph. GraphPalette has an IB inspector, but it provides only limited configuration options. I'll have to spend some time groping around in the API to make it look nice (I'm hoping it can be done). So, before I spend all this time trying to tweak GraphPalette, is there anyone out there who has another package to suggest? I've looked at VVI's GraphBuilder stuff, but it would seem to be big-time overkill for our needs. We are a trading firm, so our "scientific" graphing needs aren't too great -- just good ole American line graphs. Enough said. Thanks for the bandwidth. Sam
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: space on ms-dos_6 drive Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:28:07 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <35ptvo$pg@rosie.next.com> References: <35pp2g$8si@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <35pp2g$8si@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: ] ] Workspace Manager tells me I have 61 MB available on my DOS partition ] (ms-dos_6), while DOS tells me I have almost 200 MB available. Why the ] discripancy? There are a number of serious bugs in the DOS fs in NEXTSTEP 3.2 and 3.1. I highly recommend that you get the updated version from NeXTanswers if you're going to use large (> 50 MB) DOS partitions. (or wait until 3.3 ships) The NeXTanswers document you want is 1608 (the README is 1607). Erik
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: graphing products for MCCAs -- what's good? Date: 21 Sep 1994 22:35:27 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <35qcff$fuj@potogold.rmii.com> References: <35pqqh$34q@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <35pqqh$34q@news.acns.nwu.edu> samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann) writes: > Hi. I'm interested in hearing your suggestions/recommendations for a > NextStep graphing package that I can integrate into my apps. Have you looked into Xanthus' Graphity and their new Open Object Embedding technology? It might be the answer. Drop me a line if you want more info. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP for Next ??? Date: 21 Sep 1994 22:40:13 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <35qcod$g0i@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Todd_Samost-210994104300@jierardi.mis.stratus.com> In article <Todd_Samost-210994104300@jierardi.mis.stratus.com> Todd_Samost@vos.stratus.com (Todd Samost) writes: > Hi, I'm posting for a friend. He has a Next Cube w/NextStep 3.0 and would > like > a SLIP program for it..... > > I offered to request out to the net, tho' I know little of this machine/OS. > > Can anyone tell me if there is a freeware or shareware ftp site ? Or if > there is a relatively cheap commercial package available ? > > Please email me with any responses: > > Todd_Samost@vos.stratus.com > > Thanks in advance ! TransSys PNI might do the trick, though I'm not sure about its 3.0 compatibility. It and many other freeware and shareware apps are available at ftp:sonata.cc.purdue.edu /pub/next/submissions/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RIB to VDAFS,IGES or STEP Date: 21 Sep 1994 22:46:20 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <35qd3s$o9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Sep20.172447.2689@arlac.rhein-main.de> In article <1994Sep20.172447.2689@arlac.rhein-main.de> markus@arlac.rhein-main.de (Markus Felten) writes: > Hello, > I am locking for a filter that is able to convert RIB (Renderman) files to > IGES,VDAFS or STEP files. > Does anybody out there know something about such a tool. > Any help would be gladly welcome. > Hmmm... Gestel Italia offers an Import/Export module for solidThinking 2.0 that handles RIB, TDDD, DXF and OBJ file formats; maybe you could talk to Guido Quaroni about adding support for the formnats you need (I understand an API is in the works). Try info@gestel.com (I think!) -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: kpfleger@calufrax.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,su.computers.next Subject: answering machine / speaker phone software Date: 21 Sep 1994 23:43:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <35qgff$15k@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I've been told that the new Compaq machines have microphones, speakers, fax/modems, and software that allows the computer to serve as a whopping big digital answering machine and speaker phone. Is there any NEXTSTEP software which will do anything similar to this? I'd love to use my computer as an answering machine with arbitrarily large touch-tone or voice menus, multiple mailboxes for incoming messages, all the other nice features of digital answering machines with lots more space + the ability to archive messages. I'd also love to be able to use my microphone and speakers as a speaker phone. I haven't heard of any software to do this. Is any in the works? Would anyone like me to thoroughly beta-test one? :-) I'm going to be doing some college-campus computer consulting for graduate apartment residents, so I'll give it a thorough workout. How about Windows software that works robustly enough under SoftPC to run continuously? -Karl
From: kpfleger@calufrax.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: answering machine / speaker phone software Date: 21 Sep 1994 23:46:41 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <35qgl1$179@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I've been told that the new Compaq machines have microphones, speakers, fax/modems, and software that allows the computer to serve as a whopping big digital answering machine and speaker phone. Is there any NEXTSTEP software which will do anything similar to this? I'd love to use my computer as an answering machine with arbitrarily large touch-tone or voice menus, multiple mailboxes for incoming messages, all the other nice features of digital answering machines with lots more space + the ability to archive messages. I'd also love to be able to use my microphone and speakers as a speaker phone. I haven't heard of any software to do this. Is any in the works? Would anyone like me to thoroughly beta-test one? :-) I'm going to be doing some college-campus computer consulting for graduate apartment residents, so I'll give it a thorough workout. How about Windows software that works robustly enough under SoftPC to run continuously? -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Information on OpenWrite Message-ID: <CwH544.CFG@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <1994Sep20.033103.8094@ccdd.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:00:02 GMT In article <1994Sep20.033103.8094@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: > Does anyone have the information on the new "OpenWrite" word > processor? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com Hi, There is a beta available on sics.se:pub/next/beta_fat. If you need to contact the authors try info@xanthus.se or for a US office try info@xanthus.com -- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc 351 London Road Phone: 0702 551010 Hadleigh Intl: +44 702 551010 Essex. SS7 2BT Fax: +44 702 551515
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SLIP for Intel --- TransSys PNI Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:04:31 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: USA Message-ID: <35psjf$sk5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <35nefo$5kg@gateway.wiltel.com> In article <35nefo$5kg@gateway.wiltel.com> tony_mccall@wiltel.com (Tony McCall) writes: > Does anyone know where I can get the latest (unexpired) version of > TransSys PNI ....[snip] ftp:sonata.cc.purdue.edu /pub/next/submissions/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz The SLIP-only license won't expire. -- Brent Swekla "Sleep furiously." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Check Book application? Date: 22 Sep 1994 05:16:43 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without costing me an arm an a leg? I am but a college student... -- *** Michael Conners - Beer drinker, Patriot - THE Ohio State University *** What part of 'shall not be infringed' didn't Congress understand? Don't Tread on Me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: New problems with Tailor !! Message-ID: <1994Sep21.183205.3058@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <35dkkc$cg2@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:32:05 GMT In article <35dkkc$cg2@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: > Regardless, I would like to see NEXTSTEP incorporate PDF support > into the base NS User. A heartfelt amen to this! -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: jrobison@netcom.com (John Robison) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <jrobisonCwILxo.845@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <34laki$331@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <wagner.779128833@progas> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 05:01:00 GMT In article <wagner.779128833@progas>, Craig Wagner <wagner@progas.com> wrote: >In <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) writes: > >>"REAL DB oriented application OO Framework". While PowerBuilder does >>support some OO principles, the way I understand it, most >>PowerBuilder developers are not using it in that way at all. > >I've stayed out of this thread to this point, but I must ask a couple of >questions. You indicate that you don't know PowerBuilder, and then you go >and cite its weaknesses. How is this possible? Surely you must realize >that what you read on Internet, in competitors ads and in magazine articles >is mostly anecdotal evidence and is coloured based on any biases the writer >may have. > >Secondly, just because a developer isn't using the tool properly, is that >the fault of the tool? PowerBuilder does break down in its support of OO >in certain areas. > >No, it's an uneducated developer. Let's not confuse the use of a tool with >the capabilities of the tool. > I'd like to step in now too... A few points: 1) I developed on NeXTStep from v0.9 through 3.1. It was an excellent product, no complaints. 2) I am now developing on WINDOWS. Why? Because of the incredible installed base of software that exists. Am I happy with the platform and toolkit? Not exactly. Can I easily get a job in a field I enjoy - YES. Can I work for a company that is able to generate high sales from leveragin against an installed user base - Yes. 3) As for tools, I've used VC++, VB, and PB. Let's face it, Microsoft's tools are just as (un)stable as their OS's. The development environ on PB has its share of bugs, but at least by 3.0a they are predictable. And the runtime is solid and runs at a decent clip. All the hooks are in the environment to allow you to write some good OO code, which brings my to my final point... 4) PB *IS* an OO environment. You can subclass almost every type of object. You can provide abstract superclasses, override (or extend) functions (events/methods), etc. OK, so you can't overload a function. (That one always gets the C++ people ruffed up.) COming from a pretty pure OO environment (Objective-C/NeXT) - I was actually very pleasantly surprised at the amount of OO knowledge and design I was able to use in teh PB enviroment. As with NeXTStep, PB is thick on UI manipulation and thin on application logic. Unlike NeXTStep, however, its a bit harder to code much "enterprise logic" into scripts - and NeXT is much easier for apps that are supposed to handle complex logic on the client. 5) Unfortunately, it comes down to MARKET SHARE. The Mac is *MUCH* better than PC's. If an app crashes ONCE on a MAc, you take it back and demand a refund. If an app crashes more than once a day on a PC you consider thinking it is unstable. I work in a mixed environment (many people using both platforms at once), and the superior environment is clear. The same can be said for NeXTStep. The problem is the Evil Empire now dominates 90% of desktops, and most of the people *I* work for have an easier (yes, MUCH easier) time selling a product that runs on Windoze. If you are Chrysler, and are willing to write all the software everybody will ever need, than you can pull it off. Not many companies are willing to jump on the NS bandwagon if they have a significant investment in Windoze. (Sad but true) 6) SO, in the PB vs. NeXT comparison, as is clear from this thread, there are many factors that go way beyond basic programming. TONS of (not so) humble opinion. Please direct flames via private E-mail. ;-) ;-) My $0.25, John R -- --- John Robison jrobison@netcom.com Opinions are my own.
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 22 Sep 1994 00:54:07 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <35rd6v$nm8@samsara.circus.com> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> Summary: quick answers I could spend a lot more time giving much more complete answers here, but then I wouldn't get much sleep. So here's some short answers to most of the questions instead... :) In article <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu>, Joshua Rehman <eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu> wrote: > I have an oppurtunity to obtain an evaluation copy of NS 3.1, and I would >like to know a few things: aieeee! Not 3.1! :) (see below) >1. What is BSD's relationship with mach? Mach 2.5, on which NS was built, has a BSD "emulation layer" on top the kernel. This means that from the UNIX shell level and programming interface, the system is fully BSD-compatible. >2. What is the workspace's relationship with the underlying OS (i.e. > graphics server like X, shell like Windows...) On top of Mach runs a Display PostScript window server which is analogous to running X. All the applications take advantage of this, just like all the X apps take advantage of X. There is something called the AppKit which is somewhat comparable to Motif, in that it's a big collection of buttons, sliders, browsers, etc., only it's better than Motif could ever hope to be (IMHO). On top of this environment we have the Workspace Manager, which is sort of analogous to the Macintosh "Finder" only infinitely more powerful. All the applications are launched from and can be killed by the Workspace (exceptions exist). >3. What is OpenStep (the capiTals are probably not riGHT:) and EOF? > (A shell of NS for other OSs?) OpenStep is a specification for a way to have the NEXTSTEP application layer, running on another OS kernel other than Mach. Most likely Sun will have the first shipping implementation of this. Applications written for NEXTSTEP should be easily ported to OpenStep systems. EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) is, as I understand, three things: 1. A collection of objects and framework for integrating large existing databases into an Object Oriented system. What DBKit should have been. 2. A new set of class libraries called Foundation Kit 3. A few other new development tools >4. Is insignia's SoftPC the only emulator available? How does it perform? There's also a Mac emulator called Executor. SoftPC runs at I believe around 80% of native speed, but that's merely a number I heard from someone else. The app itself is functional, but in all honesty not terribly robust. You can run DOS and windows apps fairly well, though. Personally, I don't have any DOS or Windows apps I really care to run. >5. What is the best word processor and spread sheet for NeXT (any other cool > applications that you can't find anywhere else?) I'll let other people argue about this, maybe. Best word processor I've seen is WriteUp. Best spreadsheet is a good question, there are a couple decent ones... Mesa isn't bad, I kinda like Xanthus Questor, and Improv is great but only available for m68k. A new improv-like spreadsheet is due out soon from... was it Lighthouse? >6. How difficult is it to port code developed under NS? It depends on what NS-unique tools and features you've used and your target platform. For example, DOOM was written under NS and then ported to DOS. But if you use tons and tons of PS and AppKit stuff, then you might have some trouble porting to something else unless you want to write equivalent modules for your target OS. For straight UNIX apps, though, I would say "not hard at all". >7. Am I correct in assuming that OOP is only a special way to write source > and that there is *no* difference in compiling schemes? uh... not exactly. You can use straight C and try to be OO, and then there would be no difference, but usually people tend to use OO languages... in the case of NS, objective-C is the language almost everything is written in, and it's a little different... peek in comp.lang.objective-c for some ideas on why obj-C kicks C++'s butt. :) >8. Is bash or tcsh available for NS? Yes, although you might have to compile them yourself. Bash compiled just fine on my 3.2 system, right off the prep.ai.mit.edu ftp site. I did get tcsh compiled at some point, but the latest version is for some reason not compiling for me. You might be able to find a precompiled copy on ftp.cs.orst.edu or somewhere... >9. Where can I find out how to install NS on my white machine? Is NS > compatible with only limited hardware, as NeXTanswers and my failure to > install seems to imply? Well... 3.1 was the first version to support intel hardware, and it only ran on a very small number of systems. 3.2 is much better in that respect. Also, what you see on NeXTAnswers is a list of "certified systems" -- brand name complete systems which NS is pretty sure to work on, and "listed systems", which may have been certified at some point, but which NS is at least very likely to work on and has been working but hasn't necessarily gone through an extensive certification process. IMHO, though, you can probably install NS on many a no-name PC so long as you make sure that you have devices for which there are drivers which are known to work. >I think that NS is the coolest looking UNIX product I have ever seen in all my >year of experience with UNIX. I totally agree! It's awesome. > However, I forsee great difficulty installing >it as it did not recognize my CD-ROM or mouse and gave me some pretty criptic >error messages, so I may need some help (e-mail appreciated!). it unfortunately won't work with IDE cdrom drives, and many systems come with cheapo SCSI cards which won't cut it... especially the cards which try to be both a SCSI card and a sound card. Those are only good for the sound part. Alas... if you can get a working configuration, though, you will love it! >Is Linux a competitor for me, a UNIX hobbyist? They are both OSs, but NS is >cooler but Linux is (very) widely supported, even if in an unspectacular >manner. What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. Is >NS worth my time? For the hobbyist? Yes, Linux probably is, since NeXT isn't really marketing towards the home user at all despite the fact that NS is awesome at home. I am biased, because I work (as a contractor) for NeXT, but before that I used NS at home for quite some time and was delighted with it. I've used Linux a fair amount, as well, and it's not bad. If you've got the disk space, you can do both. Personally, I can't come up with any reasons why I would want to run Linux once I've got NS up and running, but, again, I'm biased. >Thank You >- >Josh Have fun... -Adam -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ Work = Adam_Beeman@NeXT.COM // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Subject: Re: Anyone still using Marble Teleconnect? Message-ID: <CwIq86.5H8@fafnir.com> Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA References: <35km7h$2fs@sundog.tiac.net> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 06:33:41 GMT In article <35km7h$2fs@sundog.tiac.net> shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) writes: > Robert Wilson writes > > Now has anybody got it working with dynamic IP addressing? > > That is what I do not know. I have no idea about it. I have heard that > TransSys can. > Marble Teleconnect has always had dynamic IP addressing, back to the first release. They call it BOOTP protocol, just check the box. I've been using it with PSI for several years (and UUNET before that). -- What I did must have been right, or an angel would have stopped me, just as the angel stopped Abraham in the Bible. -- Albert Fish, the cannibal Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame Subject: Changing the path of a graphic file in Framemaker Date: 22 Sep 1994 09:34:46 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <35rj3m$ff6@relay2.oleane.net> Hello, I have documents with an imported graphic. As the path to this graphic is relative, when I move the files, Frame does not finf the graphic, and each time I move the file I have to specify the new path. So one question: how to make frame change the relative path to an absolute one? No clue in the docs or in the FAQ. (Please note that I do not want to include the file in the documents, the graphics is very big and changes very often...) Thanks, Denis PS: This is for a Frame 3 version, on Nextstep. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ ............OLEANE will be at Interop Paris, Area B02.............
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 22 Sep 1994 02:49:21 -0700 Message-ID: <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) writes: >Is Linux a competitor for me, a UNIX hobbyist? They are both OSs, but NS is >cooler but Linux is (very) widely supported, even if in an unspectacular >manner. Although a sufficient reason to forget about NEXTSTEP is that NeXT has no interest in home users or hackers, and the the cost will only be going up. IB is nice, and EOF/4.0 will be a clean and efficient development environment. The OS itself is nothing special, a hacked up Mach 2.5, not particularly fast, the drivers typically suck, and the Unix support is pitiful. Linux is the ideal hobbyist machine. It now has ibcs2 binary compatibility, so if you want to run commercial apps, you can. WordPerfect for SCO, runs on it for instance. Linux has been steadily becoming more modular and, in my experience very reliable. I beat on it hard too, and follow alpha patches. Net-support on the comp.os.linux.* is *vastly* better than anything you'll get from NeXT (not that that is saying anything). Linux binaries are everywhere and any freeware package you'll find will run on Linux, usually without modification. Linux isn't merely a bland conventional Unix implementation. It is constantly improving with interesting features. There are at least half a dozen custom filesystems for such things as FTP redirection, overlaying, SYSV, OS/2, and MSDOS. You can even install Linux without repartitioning. Best of all is the complete source code from bottom to top. More and more companies are porting their software to Linux. ParcPlace, for instance made their the OI toolkit available freely on the net. But this isn't a huge issue anyway, seeing that there is SCO compatability. Spend the money you'd waste on NeXT on a good C++, LISP, Smalltalk development environment, if you really feel the urge to go commercial. Besides, if you want OpenStep, wait for Sun's implementation. Sun will make or break NeXT and OpenStep anyway. >What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. Is >NS worth my time? No, not even close. For the hobbyist, Linux is a much better choice.
From: djml@nextdj.ias.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Playing .au files on the NeXT Date: 22 Sep 1994 10:34:54 GMT Organization: Universite Paris-Sud, France. Distribution: world Message-ID: <35rmke$jm9@upsn2.u-psud.fr> References: <jorn.6.000D82E2@gih.no> In article <jorn.6.000D82E2@gih.no> jorn@gih.no (Jorn Wroldsen) writes: > Can anyone tell me how I can listen to .au files on my NeXT-station? > > Thanks in advance, > J. Wroldsen > Use: sndplay file.au (I have Black Hard with NS3.2). Djamel. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- E-mail: djml@ias.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Academic Price for Virtouso2 ? Date: 22 Sep 1994 12:57:10 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <35ruv6$jr0@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Can sombody please tell me how can I get hold on the Academic price of Virouso2 ? I would like to buy it for our faculty but I simply can't find somebody, who could tell me the price. I have asked the german distributors they could'nt tell me enything, then I mailed GS Corp. -- all I got was a read receipt..... So, how can I buy virtouso2 academic? Thanks for any help.... -- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 34109 Kassel Germany E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail) Phone : +49 561 804 3506 Fax +49 561 804 2675
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q:Macromind Director for Next? Date: 22 Sep 1994 13:41:20 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <35s1i0$b14@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Is there a software available with the functionality of Macromind Director for NEXTSTEP? -- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 34109 Kassel Germany E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail) Phone : +49 561 804 3506 Fax +49 561 804 2675
From: jmm@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb question Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 13:42:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <940922094252.2056AABqH.jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm running verion 0.7.4.1 of OmniWeb. The URL: window no longer updates to show the current page being viewed, once you start moving backwards through a chain of links (at least, it doesn't always update). I vaguely recall there were some undocumented keystrokes that would show the current URL in the URL window, and another that would show the URL of a link that was clicked without actually connecting to that link. Am I right? What are the keystrokes?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (Scott Davenport) Subject: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Message-ID: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:04:24 GMT At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use SoftPC or Windoze. Any help is appreciated. -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!)
From: iggjacob@sgi17 (Jacob Nielsen (c898594)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Check Book application? Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:02:21 GMT Organization: UNI-C Message-ID: <35s2pd$ge2@unidhp.uni-c.dk> References: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Michael R Conners (mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without : costing me an arm an a leg? : I am but a college student... There is an application called Ledger, that comes with the developer version of NEXTSTEP 3.2; I have played a little with it and like it. I guess it would do the job for you --- and it's free. /Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen iggjacob@bbar.dtu.dk
From: lauraj@cnd.hp.com (Laura Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame Subject: Re: Changing the path of a graphic file in Framemaker Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:12:52 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Message-ID: <35s3d4$sgq@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: <35rj3m$ff6@relay2.oleane.net> Denis Lafont (dl@oleane.net) wrote: : So one question: how to make frame change the relative path to an absolute : one? Two possibilities: 1) Re-import the graphic; when it asks for the filename, don't click on the file in the listbox, but instead type in the (absolute) path. I'm not sure this will work. 2) Save your file in MIF. Edit the MIF, replacing each instance of the relative path with the absolute path. (I think the pathname appears twice--on two successive lines--for each imported graphic.) This works in FrameBuilder 4 on HP-UX. -- Laura Johnson * lauraj@fc.hp.com * Hewlett Packard NSMD * Ft. Collins, CO "You have to remember that American publishers believe that their readers are Spam-sucking trailer trash who'll buy whatever's shoved on the stand at the local store, and it embarrasses them when they take an interest." - Terry Pratchett
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 22 Sep 1994 15:04:41 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <35s6e9$m8r@digdug.pencom.com> References: <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> :eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) writes: : :>Is Linux a competitor for me, a UNIX hobbyist? They are both OSs, but NS is :>cooler but Linux is (very) widely supported, even if in an unspectacular :>manner. It really depends alot on what you want. I use NEXTSTEP every day at work. I love it. If I had all the money in the world, I'd put NEXTSTEP on every computer. On the other hand, I have Linux at home. I love it. If I had no money, and limited disk space and memory (which I do), I'd install and use Linux (and be completely satisfied). The truth is, each has its own strengths and each has it's own weaknesses. NEXTSTEP is a solid commercial product. It has a useful number of third party applications, a terrific user interface, and a superior development environment. It also requires more memory, disk space, and a larger monitor than Linux, and it is costly to maintain the latest level of the OS (since you have to pay for it at some point). Linux, on the other hand, is free (or relatively free if you get it on someone's CDROM). It is a robust UNIX variation with nearly every feature and public domain application available for it. It can run some third party binaries. AND (most importantly) it has a _very_large_ community of enthusiastic users/developers who are creating more and more free software for it each day. Its development environment is unspectacular (relative to other UNIX implementations), but it has all the bells and whistles. AND... it fits in a small system (the OS with all the packages fits in about 90MB of disk space), it runs quite fast on a 486/33 with 8MB of RAM. And it works well on smaller monitors (although a larger one would still be nice). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Does BackSpace crash on you? Date: 22 Sep 1994 15:15:05 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <35s71p$nol@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Twice so far backspace has crashed on me. Both times it set the screen to black but the first time I was able to command-q (quit it) where as the second time I was unable to quit and had to reboot. The first crash occured under the Sperm module and the second on David Lambert's very cool school module. The cause of the crash appears to be the folowing message in /usr/adm/messages in the case of the School backO. I don't have the message generated when sperm crashed it but I think it was the same. Sep 21 18:38:32 jehu BackSpace[179]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 3ee80 Sep 21 18:38:32 jehu BackSpace[179]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setcolor ]%% Note: I have also had the window server crashing problem that many pentium/pci people have seen so it could also be hardware but I wanted to check first and see if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks John
From: hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 2 (probably silly) questions about printing.. Date: 22 Sep 1994 15:28:01 GMT Organization: German National Research Center for IT Sender: hoff@josbach (Holger Hoffstaette) Distribution: world Message-ID: <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Greetings, I'm sorry to bother the group with something probably obvious, but I have been looking all over my system and really could need some hand-holding. :) First: is it possible to include fonts when printing from the print panel to a file (Print->Save) ? The ps output only contains the /findfont <name> references, and since I want to print the output on a non-NS-machine (which doesn't have all the NS fonts) I'm stuck. Second, does anybody know if Dots (the printer driver program) can be moved to a different directory than /LocalApps ? The printer refuses to do anything when the program is moved to a different location. Poking around in Netinfo and the Dots.app wrapper, I found several files with references to the installation directory, but changing the path names/rebooting/reconfiguring/raindancing didn't help. The online reference doesn't mention anything about this, either. Any tips would be most welcome.. Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO];| P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
From: rcw@caspian.cc.vt.edu (R. Craig Woods) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Edit, Find Panel and regular expressions Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:04:13 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <35s9tt$rhr@solaris.cc.vt.edu> A simple question, I think... I want to locate all strings that are like 8.1.1 8.1.2 8.2.1 8.2.2 and replace them with the same string enclosed by tags so that the above would become <b>8.1.1</b> <b>8.1.2</b> <b>8.2.1</b> <b>8.2.2</b> I might use for a search string the regular expression 8\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]* What I'm not sure how to do is specify the replacement string to obtain the desired results. How do I reference 'the string matched by the regular expression' as part of the replacement string?
From: "D. Todd White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: space on ms-dos_6 drive Date: 22 Sep 1994 13:00:38 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <59297.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> To: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu On 21 Sep 1994 17:04:16 GMT, Randy W Jackson <rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > >Workspace Manager tells me I have 61 MB available on my DOS partition >(ms-dos_6), while DOS tells me I have almost 200 MB available. Why the >discripancy? > >Randy Jackson >jackson+@osu.edu What you need is the DosFileSystemPatch found on ftp.next.com, which will fix that, and several other bugs with accessing the DOS partition through NeXTStep. Steve MacDougall
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: 3.3 Message-ID: <CwG3IJ.13n@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <Cw6t2t.E2y@xexos.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 20:27:55 GMT Mark Chamberlain writes > In article <354mgt$3dq@ftp-p.mccaw.com> dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock) writes: > > > > And unless NeXT comes to their senses: HIDEOUSLY UGLY icons > > > > on the m68k version--and a lot of really nice artwork going > > > > away, replaced with NOTHING. (This must be part of their > > > > new strategy to attract Windoze users.) Yuck. > > > > > > Can you (or anybody) clue us in on just exactly what art is going away? > > > > The black hardware icons (Terminal...) have been replaced with white > > equivalents. > > > > And they're not even nice white ones, they look horrid. But all of us who do have black hardware and who intend to go to 3.3 already DO have at least a 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2 CD ROM. So how many tiff files to copy back? Anyone counted 'em? Who's the first to post a shell script to get'em back? Bye, Uli -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16."
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:46:00 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Message-ID: <35scc8$9qn@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? : I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use : SoftPC or Windoze. : Any help is appreciated. : -- : Scott Davenport : sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!) Why not just use Mosaic for NeXT? I was under the impression that it was now available. Am I wrong? Nick Fogelson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: CD-Audio to NeXT-snd exist ??? Message-ID: <CwHw1u.6o@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 19:41:53 GMT In article <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) writes: > Is there a program, which read AudioCD into the NeXT as sndfiles ? For the Toshiba 3401 exists a prog called play3401. You can find it in ftp.informatik.uni-muenche.de in /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/cdrom. Has anybody managed to get this program to work with the 4101? On my slab it everytimes ends with the message "No generic SCSI devices". Any hints are welcome. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: pakala@sdl.egr.uh.edu (Rama) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I contact someone at RoseHulman? Date: 22 Sep 1994 18:38:30 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <35siv6$72t@masala.cc.uh.edu> Hi all, I am using the "Expression" object developed by someone in the Rose-Hulman institute. I am having some problems with its performance. I am hoping that I could contact the author of the code to see if he/she could help me rectify the bug in the program. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. Rama. pakala@tree.egr.uh.edu -- ******************************************* Go Houston Rockets, Go Houston Astros, Go Houston Aeros, Go Houston Cougars. Go Minnesotta Vikings!! *******************************************
From: don@approp1.house.gov (Don McKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb TIFF (GIF?) problem Date: 22 Sep 1994 18:51:39 GMT Organization: House Information Systems Message-ID: <35sjnr$dpo@neon.house.gov> I have the only NeXT machine here on the Hill with a friend in San Fran who isn't around to help me this time. While running Omniweb, I'm not able to view the graphics. The tiff files appear blank (w/o the word TIFF) and with "circle-with-the-diagonal-line-through" mark. I'm totally ignorant of how to set this up, so take nothing for granted. I looked for help/documentation but failed there as well. I would be grateful for any help, including sarcastic remarks and unchecked well-written abuse. Thanks for caring enough to read this. You're special.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:20:49 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed > IB is nice, and EOF/4.0 will be a clean and efficient > development environment. The OS itself is nothing special, > a hacked up Mach 2.5, not particularly fast, the drivers typically suck, > and the Unix support is pitiful. When did Mach become "nothing special"? It beats the heck out of the kernels provided with AIX, HP/UX, SunOS/Solaris, Ultrix, etc. I'm sorry, but recompiling the kernel because I just installed some new piece of software which requires some obscure (and normally disabled) kernel feature gets old rather quickly. The drivers typically suck because PC hardware as a whole typically sucks. NEXTSTEP running on black hardware (or Hewlett-Packard machines) does much better. As for "the Unix support is pitiful", what are you talking about? When you finish installing NEXTSTEP 3.2 (User and Developer), you have a pretty standard BSD 4.3 setup with GNU versions of various things like emacs, g{un}zip, gnutar, gcc, gdb, and so forth. Things like awk, sed, lex & yacc, and so forth all behave properly. Exactly what is it that you want from a Unix system? > Linux is the ideal hobbyist machine. It now has ibcs2 binary > compatibility, so if you want to run commercial apps, you can. > WordPerfect for SCO, runs on it for instance. Wonderful. You get to run an outdated version of WP under X11. How can you restrain yourself from shouting with joy? I'll happily take NeXT's GUI over X. > Linux has been steadily becoming more modular and, in my experience > very reliable. I beat on it hard too, and follow alpha patches. > Net-support on the comp.os.linux.* is *vastly* better than anything > you'll get from NeXT (not that that is saying anything). Well, there's some truth to that, although Linux has had some bugs outstanding for quite a while. (Linus has no obligation to fix anything he doesn't want to, since Linux isn't commercial.) I've watched people play the "let's rebuild the kernel with the new Linux patches and see whether it works" game for quite a while. As I said above, recompiling the kernel is fun the first coupla times you do it. Eventually, you come to realize that continuously mucking with your system and playing with patches all the time doesn't really get any work done. (Getting work done is why we all read Internet newsgroups, right? :-) > Linux binaries are everywhere and any freeware package you'll find > will run on Linux, usually without modification. This as true of NEXTSTEP (or of pretty much any Unix-based OS), as well. [ ... ] > Spend the money you'd waste on NeXT on a good C++, LISP, Smalltalk > development environment, if you really feel the urge to go commercial. "waste", hmm? There are a lot of people who'd justifiably disagree with that comment. While both LISP and Smalltalk have their places, C++ is a kludge. It's syntax is ugly, the feature set varies from compiler to compiler, and it lacks a runtime environment, therby losing many of the nice OO features found in Objective-C. For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so people) development projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. All IMHO, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Check Book application? Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:18:17 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <35svr9$6fu@potogold.rmii.com> References: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > > Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without > costing me an arm an a leg? CheckSum by Sirius Solutions. $95 from OpenSource, Inc. (1-800-TRY-OPEN). Let me know if you need more info. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: answering machine / speaker phone software Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:27:23 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <35t0cb$6il@potogold.rmii.com> References: <35qgl1$179@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mix by i.link in Germany is an excellent solution. A fully feature-loaded version sells for around $1500 with educational discount. Unfortunately, it is presently available only for NeXT machines. The i56 card that will enable it to run on PC's should be available soon. Let me know if you'd like more information. Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: hidden buttons in CDplayer Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 20:48:35 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Sep22.204835.366@harka> References: <1994Sep20.200506.1386@mjw.octagon.de> Originator: HARKA@nice Manfred W"uhr (mane@mjw.octagon.de) wrote: > One I think is the CD-icon, which lets me switch the track/time > display. I wouldn't call this a 'hidden' button, but it's not obvious that it has a function. > The second one is beneath the track counter, bringing up a tiny > window called 'Track` with a input-field. > What can be done with this?? You may enter a track number and directly jump to that track. Try it out. > Are there more hidden Buttons? Yes, if you take a look at the nib-File in the CDPlayer.app-wrapper, you'll find two more: Under the bottom right corner of the time-display, there're two very little buttons very close together. The right one gives a catalog of the tracks, how long they are and where they start. The other one gives a very short overview over the CD. Are there other apps with hidden buttons? - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:35:23 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <35t0rb$m27@digdug.pencom.com> References: <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: :Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP :3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed :> IB is nice, and EOF/4.0 will be a clean and efficient :> development environment. The OS itself is nothing special, :> a hacked up Mach 2.5, not particularly fast, the drivers typically suck, :> and the Unix support is pitiful. : :When did Mach become "nothing special"? It beats the heck out of the :kernels provided with AIX, HP/UX, SunOS/Solaris, Ultrix, etc. I'm :sorry, but recompiling the kernel because I just installed some new :piece of software which requires some obscure (and normally disabled) :kernel feature gets old rather quickly. Uhmmm... AIX doesn't require that you recompile the kernel. You don't need to in Solaris either. Don't know about HPUX, but SunOS you definately will have to at some point or another... Of course you probably were talking about Linux here... :As for "the Unix support is pitiful", what are you talking about? When :you finish installing NEXTSTEP 3.2 (User and Developer), you have a :pretty standard BSD 4.3 setup with GNU versions of various things like :emacs, g{un}zip, gnutar, gcc, gdb, and so forth. Things like awk, sed, :lex & yacc, and so forth all behave properly. Exactly what is it that :you want from a Unix system? I'm pretty sure the previous poster was referring to the rather _old_ nature of the filesystem, the non-ethernet networking utilities (UUCP, PPP, SLIP, etc.), and the low interest on NeXTs part about upgrading any of these (just try to ask them about UUCP -- "Why would anyone want to use that?")... :I'll happily take NeXT's GUI over X. I'd use both (and I do)... :> Linux binaries are everywhere and any freeware package you'll find :> will run on Linux, usually without modification. : :This as true of NEXTSTEP (or of pretty much any Unix-based OS), as well. As long as you have X11 from a third party (like say... Pencom? Oh, wait this might be considered rabid commercialization -- sorry.) :[ ... ] :> Spend the money you'd waste on NeXT on a good C++, LISP, Smalltalk :> development environment, if you really feel the urge to go commercial. : :"waste", hmm? There are a lot of people who'd justifiably disagree with :that comment. Yeah, you can get most of that stuff on NEXTSTEP... So why would it be considered a 'waste'? :While both LISP and Smalltalk have their places, C++ is a kludge. It's :syntax is ugly, the feature set varies from compiler to compiler, and it :lacks a runtime environment, therby losing many of the nice OO features :found in Objective-C. For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so :people) development projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. I would agree with that too..... NEXTSTEP _by_far_ has the best development environment I've seen. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MPEG viewer for black NeXT? (NS3.2) Date: 22 Sep 1994 23:08:04 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <35t2ok$mo9@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> What's the favorite MPEG viewer on good old black? Thanks, Alistair alistair@bcu.ubc.ca
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser Date: 22 Sep 1994 13:18:52 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <35s07s$525@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <CwHnxE.M20@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CwHnxE.M20@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) writes: > Just reinstalling my system after a hardrive went up in smoke, and > can't remember the ftp site with RBrowser on it. Any suggestions? > RBrowser is available by anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230] in the pub/RBrowser/ directory. Mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Signature in NeXTMail? Date: 22 Sep 1994 13:24:22 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <35s0i6$56v@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In article <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (Scott Davenport) writes: > Is there a way to specify a default signature file in NeXTMail? Maybe you will like the program of MailHelper.app, it can specify a default signature with rft(d), ascii ... You can find it in the FTP site /utils or /tools ... Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: INN Source for NXSTP Message-ID: <CwD2wn.7H@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - makers of Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 05:21:58 GMT We can I get the source code to INN that is ready for NEXTSTEP 3.2. Any pointer are appreciated. If you have it and want to email it to me, please email me BEFORE sending it. Thanks ihs
From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP:P.D. Barcode font needeor testing Date: 23 Sep 1994 02:24:39 GMT Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET Message-ID: <35te97$26s@hk.super.net> Hi, Anyone could tell me where to get a barcode font (any standard will do) on the NeXT ? I have a barcode generation PS code segment, but I'd like to try using PS fonts instead. Could anybody give me a help ? Thank you very much. Edwin edwintam@hk.super.net NeXTMail Welcome and prefered !!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Message-ID: <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 05:59:09 GMT In article <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: >>eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) writes: >> >>>What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. Is >>>NS worth my time? >> >>No, not even close. For the hobbyist, Linux is a much better choice. For the graphics hobbyist (not saying that the original poster was, but some might be listening) you're right, it's not even close. As a matter of fact, nothing on the planet is close to NEXTSTEP if you want to hack 2D or 3D graphics. Postscript for 2D and RenderMan for 3D; pinch me, I'm dreaming... Note: this from a man who actually has an Indigo^2 Extreme on his desk and accounts on several multi-processor Onyx Reality Engines in our Lab, and I still prefer my HP 735 running NEXTSTEP, for no small reason that I have a NeXTSTation Color at home that runs exactly the same software. Try that with an Indy (not on my budget). Especially for students, where the price for NEXTSTEP is not an issue ($299 for the whole thing), NEXTSTEP is a mind-blowing environment for the hobbyist who wants to hack about with graphics. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Source code for INN wanted Message-ID: <CwKBEH.qn@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <CwKB9z.nE@nyro.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 03:08:40 GMT Could someone please point me to some INN source code that is known to work on NS 3.2? (ftp of course) Thanks. ihs
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: All quiet on the OmniWeb front... Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:25:23 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <35u6u4$31u@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <1994Sep18.170424.140@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <35a5sj$70a@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > So, what's your point? It's free, and they might want to concentrate > on the projects that are bringing in money for awhile. I'd think > that anyone who is confused by this is more than welcome to spend > their own time writing software and making it available for free > to everyone on the net. And when you do, be sure to keep those > updates to the free software coming on a regular basis. Who's confused? My POINT is that yes, it IS good software. I'm just trying to ascertain where OmniWeb is going. The omniweb-l has gone very quiet recently. There's been talk of charging for it over the last six months, which I think is a good idea. I think others would agree, which is why I put this to c.s.n.s. - to get a feel of how many others would pay. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Message-ID: <2964@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 23 Sep 94 09:10:40 GMT References: <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). In article <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> infidel+@CMU.EDU (Charles William Swiger) writes: >As for "the Unix support is pitiful", what are you talking about? When >you finish installing NEXTSTEP 3.2 (User and Developer), you have a >pretty standard BSD 4.3 setup with GNU versions of various things like >emacs, g{un}zip, gnutar, gcc, gdb, and so forth. Things like awk, sed, >lex & yacc, and so forth all behave properly. Exactly what is it that >you want from a Unix system? The 3.2 sed is not 8-bit clean for one thing. Not nice if you are whipping up a TeX-to-accents tickle service. Took me all of 10 minutes to kermit the gnu version and install it, but still... There are other small things like this which do irritate once and awhile. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:33:03 GMT Organization: Portland State University Message-ID: <MARCUS.94Sep23023303@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> References: <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:20:49 -0400 >>>>> "cs" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: In article <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: cs> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Sep-94 Re: cs> NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed >> IB is nice, and EOF/4.0 will be a clean and efficient development >> environment. The OS itself is nothing special, a hacked up Mach >> 2.5, not particularly fast, the drivers typically suck, and the >> Unix support is pitiful. cs> When did Mach become "nothing special"? It beats the heck out of cs> the kernels provided with AIX, HP/UX, SunOS/Solaris, Ultrix, etc. cs> I'm sorry, but recompiling the kernel because I just installed cs> some new piece of software which requires some obscure (and cs> normally disabled) kernel feature gets old rather quickly. I agree. Mach is a great potential that has not yet been properly exploited. NeXT just munged on it enough to get BSD working, and gave up on all the interesting things (like external pagers). Linux has loadable modules just like NEXTSTEP. I fully expect that, although not designed as a microkernel, Linux will evolve into a `fully redirectable' OS much like Mach. In any case, Linux *1.0* compares favorably in terms of stability when compared with NEXTSTEP 3.1. cs> The drivers typically suck because PC hardware as a whole cs> typically sucks. NEXTSTEP running on black hardware (or cs> Hewlett-Packard machines) does much better. SCSI disk performance on my NeXTstation (500kb/s) is below ESDI performance on a old 33mhz 386 I use! (800Kb/s). Linux suffers from the same crummy hardware, so? cs> As for "the Unix support is pitiful", what are you talking about? cs> When you finish installing NEXTSTEP 3.2 (User and Developer), you cs> have a pretty standard BSD 4.3 setup with GNU versions of various cs> things like emacs, g{un}zip, gnutar, gcc, gdb, and so forth. cs> Things like awk, sed, lex & yacc, and so forth all behave cs> properly. Exactly what is it that you want from a Unix system? For one thing, they continue to use Mach-O, but haven't extended BFD for Mach-O, so object-files are difficult to work with in a cross-platform environment. The various utilities are more like BSD 4.2. NeXT keeps insisting that `all the bugs are fixed' in GCC (2.2.2!), but, funny, I can cross compile for NeXT and they go away! Oh, and BTW, has anyone tried to take the GNU-source that NeXT distributes and make it work on another machine. I have, and it doesn't work. You have to scob your NeXT's include files, and clarify endian things in their (old) GNU as. >> Linux is the ideal hobbyist machine. It now has ibcs2 binary >> compatibility, so if you want to run commercial apps, you can. >> WordPerfect for SCO, runs on it for instance. cs> Wonderful. You get to run an outdated version of WP under X11. cs> How can you restrain yourself from shouting with joy? SCO has a bigger base of customers and applications than NEXTSTEP. As ports for m68k, SPARC, and DEC Alpha come along, I wouldn't be suprised to see other compatibility packages, maybe even dynamic recompilation loaders. cs> I'll happily take NeXT's GUI over X. Perhaps I will too, when I can use it portably, from Sun, on X. cs> I've watched people play the "let's rebuild the kernel with the cs> new Linux patches and see whether it works" game for quite a cs> while. As I said above, recompiling the kernel is fun the first cs> coupla times you do it. Eventually, you come to realize that cs> continuously mucking with your system and playing with patches all cs> the time doesn't really get any work done. I'd say I rebuild kernels about twice a month. It is automatic, not really too time consuming. Easy to back off to old versions. >> Linux binaries are everywhere and any freeware package you'll find >> will run on Linux, usually without modification. cs> This as true of NEXTSTEP (or of pretty much any Unix-based OS), as cs> well. See comments about Mach-O above. No default implementation of brk() and sbrk() is another annoying misfeature. cs> [ ... ] >> Spend the money you'd waste on NeXT on a good C++, LISP, Smalltalk >> development environment, if you really feel the urge to go >> commercial. cs> "waste", hmm? There are a lot of people who'd justifiably cs> disagree with that comment. I was addressing a potential Unix hobbyist. If you want to get invested in the brutal, somewhat uninteresting world of financial data managment. By all means, NEXTSTEP is an attractive environment. For most modest-budget hackers, Linux is just a much more sensible option, and in some ways a step up. cs> For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so people) development cs> projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. Depends who the `10 or so people' are and what the problem is. The GUI framework, and development tools of NEXTSTEP are solid and useful, but hacking NEXTSTEP gets boring -- it is just much too closed.
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:57:33 GMT Organization: Portland State University Message-ID: <MARCUS.94Sep23025733@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> In-reply-to: wave@media.mit.edu's message of Fri, 23 Sep 1994 05:59:09 GMT >>>>> "wave" == Michael B Johnson <wave@media.mit.edu> writes: In article <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: wave> In article <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu wave> (Marcus Daniels) writes: >>> eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) writes: >>> >>>> What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. >>>> Is NS worth my time? >>> No, not even close. For the hobbyist, Linux is a much better >>> choice. wave> For the graphics hobbyist (not saying that the original poster wave> was, but some might be listening) you're right, it's not even wave> close. As a matter of fact, nothing on the planet is close to wave> NEXTSTEP if you want to hack 2D or 3D graphics. Postscript for wave> 2D and RenderMan for 3D; pinch me, I'm dreaming... RenderMan was a isolated library before it was ever integrated into NEXTSTEP, was it not? How has NeXT improved it? With their current market, can we really realistically expect to see killer improvements. I'm skeptical. Wouldn't you be happier if you buy just RenderMan and run it on, say, Linux and your SGI boxes? As for Display PostScript, well there is GhostScript 3.0. Obviously it isn't nearly as bummed-down as DPS, but it certainly could be setup to work smoothly as an X extension. wave> Especially for students, where the price for NEXTSTEP is not an wave> issue ($299 for the whole thing), NEXTSTEP is a mind-blowing wave> environment for the hobbyist who wants to hack about with wave> graphics. I wouldn't be suprised if Renderman got dropped (remember MusicKit, remember the DSP libraries, remember PhoneKit, etc.) or turned into a painfully expensive product like PDO. I'll be curious too see how they split things up for 4.0, and if they have a student price at all.
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: INN Source for NXSTP Date: 23 Sep 94 10:03:25 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.780314605@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <CwD2wn.7H@nyro.com> ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) writes: >We can I get the source code to INN that is ready for NEXTSTEP 3.2. >Any pointer are appreciated. >If you have it and want to email it to me, please email me >BEFORE sending it. My private port can be found on ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/systems/next/Sources/INN-1.4.tar.gz Regards, Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:25:26 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kiUiJK600Uh7E2wvNe@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <35t0rb$m27@digdug.pencom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Robin D. Wilson@pencom.c > Uhmmm... AIX doesn't require that you recompile the kernel. You don't need > to in Solaris either. Don't know about HPUX, but SunOS you definately will > have to at some point or another... Of course you probably were talking > about Linux here... Hmm, I didn't seperate those two sentences enough, I see. The Mach kernel compares quite favorably with other Unix kernels currently available. (This is a broad generalization, admitted, but it's reasonably true in general.) As for doing kernel rebuilds, I've had to rebuild kernels under SunOS 4.x (Solaris 1.x), SunOS 5.0.x (Solaris 2.0), HP/UX 9.01, and Linux. I've never administered an AIX or Ultrix box, so I don't know what's involved with their care and feeding. [ ... ] > I'm pretty sure the previous poster was referring to the rather _old_ nature > of the filesystem, the non-ethernet networking utilities (UUCP, PPP, SLIP, > etc.), and the low interest on NeXTs part about upgrading any of these (just > try to ask them about UUCP -- "Why would anyone want to use that?")... Ahh. Well, I can see that, although you can get upgraded versions of UUCP (TaylorUUCP works well as a drop-in replacement) and there are several options (Morningstar, Transsys, and a freeware version, I believe) to get SLIP/PPP. As for the "rather _old_ nature of the filesystem", how does that matter? What can't you do now, or what benefits would you gain as a user if NeXT upgraded to a newer version of their UFS? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Message-ID: <CwL6Mp.7Ku@fi.gs.com> Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator) Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co. References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <35scc8$9qn@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:23:13 GMT Nick Fogelson (fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: : : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server : : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through : : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? : : I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use : : SoftPC or Windoze. : : Any help is appreciated. : : -- : : Scott Davenport : : sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!) : Why not just use Mosaic for NeXT? I was under the impression that it : was now available. Am I wrong? I was under the impression that Mosaic would need the X libraries. If anyone knows of a Mosaic client that uses NeXT Step, please let me know.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Message-ID: <CwL6wt.7oM@fi.gs.com> Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator) Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co. References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:29:16 GMT Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? : I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use : SoftPC or Windoze. : Any help is appreciated. Try setting the same environment variables that Mosaic uses, maybe it'll work. Then try running OmniWeb and see if it picks them up. PROXY_SERVER=http://$SERVER:$PORT/ # For Telnet URL's telnet_proxy_host=$SERVER telnet_proxy_port=84 http_proxy=$PROXY_SERVER ftp_proxy=$PROXY_SERVER file_proxy=$PROXY_SERVER gopher_proxy=$PROXY_SERVER
From: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: lha Date: 23 Sep 1994 15:56:56 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35uts8$3tk@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anyone know if (and in that case where) it exists a lha working on next ? /Marcus -- **************************************************************** SWEDEN | Name: Marcus Burckhardt rocks! | E-mail: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se | NeXT-mail: d91-mbu@nextmail.nada.kth.se | WWW: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d91-mbu/ ****************************************************************
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: lha Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:24:46 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <35uvge$2a9@news.duke.edu> References: <35uts8$3tk@news.kth.se> Marcus Burckhardt writes > Anyone know if (and in that case where) it exists a lha working > on next ? Yes. It's inside Opener.app. To get Opener v3.1.3a, anonymously ftp to cs.orst.edu and look up: /pub/next/binaries/util/Opener_3.1.3_MAB_utils.tar.Z /pub/next/binaries/util/Opener_3.1.3a_MAB.app.README /pub/next/binaries/util/Opener_3.1.3a_MAB.app.tar.Z (The last file is the only one you really need unless you plan to recompile Opener for new utilities, etc.) You could just install Opener.app in your /Apps or /LocalApps directory and let it handle all the file types it understands just by double-clicking on them. If you really just want the executable lha, open Opener.app as a directory and you'll see that lha is one of the files therein; you can just copy it from there to wherever. Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: savs@cs.mcgill.ca (Sergei SAVCHENKO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: hind mi-24 flight sim anouncement Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:15:28 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <35s3i0$ih4@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> i've just uploaded to ftp.cs.orst.edu new, much improved version 2.0 of the HIND MI-24 flight simulator featuring: 1) improved 10-15% frames per second ratio; 2) much improved ai of the game targets; 3) improved aircraft flight models; 4) 4 more aircraft (8 total - MI-24,AH-1j, KA-50,AH-64A,MIG-29,F-16,SU-27,F-15); 5) map panel added!; 6) now compiled for both black and white hardware. Thanks to everybody who've supported this project! All comments would be much appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------ HIND flight sim V2.0 (c) 1994 Sergei Savchenko (SAVS@CS.McGILL.CA)
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:25:14 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <35uvha$a5n@news.iastate.edu> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> Marcus Daniels (marcus@ee.pdx.edu) wrote: : >What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. Is : >NS worth my time? : No, not even close. For the hobbyist, Linux is a much better choice. I'd say yes. He's asking if NS is great for a user. Assuming that he can get NS running in a fairly stable system. NS would be more user friendly than Linux. Note that he is not a developer. He just like the interface. I agree that Linux is better for hobbyist or hackers, but as far as user interface and friendliness of the environment, no one beats NS. Yup, I'm biased... you may say. Chris
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:39:55 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <35v0cr$a5n@news.iastate.edu> References: <giURYFG00iV586Lrtx@andrew.cmu.edu> <MARCUS.94Sep23023303@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> Marcus Daniels (marcus@ee.pdx.edu) wrote: : cs> For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so people) development : cs> projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. : Depends who the `10 or so people' are and what the problem is. The : GUI framework, and development tools of NEXTSTEP are solid and useful, : but hacking NEXTSTEP gets boring -- it is just much too closed. IMHO, Computer Science is not hacking. You want to get your work done? Don't hack. NS provides the fastest and easiest development environment. If you want to get your work done quickly, NS is the choice. You you're a hobbyist, hack on Linux. It all depends on what you are trying to do. I use both.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> Subject: HELP! Net Browsing by Modem a Pain and a Problem! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.90.940923081124.1842A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:56:59 GMT Please HELP! I am a frustrated NeXT user who is upset at the apparent lack of utility of my system. Actually, it's my skill that's lacking and not the system, but the end result is the same. Here's my problem: I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color at an off campus site. I connect to the university AIX system via a ZyXEL modem, and use my [student] computer account on the school's system to roam the internet and to receive mail. One of the many things I can't figure out (even with the help of campus reps, who bring me close but not all the way), is how to "beam" files such as images, software and text mail from my unix account on campus to the slab on my desktop. Currently, I use my system to instruct the school's AIX system (running PINE) to print text messages to the screen, which I then copy and paste into a word processing file on my desktop -- a time consuming and irritating solution to the problem. Further, I can't figure out how to edit the image files I copy (and hope to eventually "beam" directly to my system), so that these images are viewable on my screen. I have a GIF utility, but I'm not sure what I should do to view Internet loot with it. I've used kermit, but it sends the entire mail folder in a combined file, from which some pieces (or whole messages) are missing, and again -- I don't know how to edit the resultant mess so that I'm left with what's needed to view an image or run a piece of gathered software! Finally, the school's system DOES NOT provide any kind of a SLIP service (and nobody there knows of an available equivalent either). Will I ever get to use my NeXTmail app? Can somebody help me? What would you do if you had a remote NeXT connected to an AIX system via dial-up service, and wanted to collect images, text, and software from the Net? Are there any [affordable] commercial products that can do all these things for me, without sacrificing the NeXT GUI? Please post any information you may have to share about these matters, or better yet, e-mail me at b6933873@mail.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Message-ID: <CwLH8q.Hxx@fi.gs.com> Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator) Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co. References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:12:25 GMT Michael B. Johnson (wave@media.mit.edu) wrote: : Especially for students, where the price for NEXTSTEP is not an issue ($299 for the whole thing), : NEXTSTEP is a mind-blowing environment for the hobbyist who wants to hack about with graphics. I agree. NEXTSTEP is a mind-blowing environment. Having had a NEXT for several years, I've never stopped using it though I have a 486 Windows PC right next to it. The 486 has super VGA color, my NeXT is monochrome. And yet, I prefer to do 2D graphics stuff on my NeXT. It is simply much easier to work with. Period! It is easy to work with, and all the tools that you are likely to need are already there. You don't have to worry about acquiring, comparing, considering compatibility, etc. Secondly, as an OS and particularly as an Object Oriented Programming System, there is nothing that you could learn on which is better than NeXT. Working on a Sun/C++ platform, using several of the ParcPlace, blah blah, OO development environments, I can say that they are not even close to the ease of use and EVEN PERFORMANCE of the Interface Builder on NEXT. Ever tried using an OO development environment on Suns, the damn Motif applications chug along slower on my Sparc10 than my 68040/25, the load/run cycle of those things is horrible. I tend to avoid these things going back to line-by-line utilities because the Motif applications are such pitiful resource hogs. So despite the lack of a commercial market, if I ever need to get things done in a ziffy, NeXT is the computer that I turn on. I'm currently trying to write a Visual Basic program for the PC, its reason for existence. And I can tell you its been a nightmare chasing the different program incompatibilities, version problems etc. Remember, Visual Basic is the best thing available on the PC platform and despite being interpreted, it still cannot compare to NeXT Interface Builder. I think I'm going to give it a NeXT For Intell partition and have the option of booting up NeXT Step if my Motorola ever dies. This ability to get things done, is largely unproven on Linux. But remember that getting it up and running will be just a start, after that you have to "acquire" all the other pieces, a lot of fun for hackers.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep23.135709.1031@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <1994Sep9.043143.8719@ccdd.com> <wagner.779128833@progas> <jrobisonCwILxo.845@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:57:09 GMT In article <jrobisonCwILxo.845@netcom.com> jrobison@netcom.com (John Robison) writes: > >4) PB *IS* an OO environment. You can subclass almost every type >of object. You can provide abstract superclasses, override >(or extend) functions (events/methods), etc. OK, so you >can't overload a function. (That one always gets the C++ >people ruffed up.) COming from a pretty pure OO environment >(Objective-C/NeXT) - I was actually very pleasantly surprised >at the amount of OO knowledge and design I was able to use >in teh PB enviroment. As with NeXTStep, PB is thick on UI >manipulation and thin on application logic. I've no experience with PB, but seriously modifying the behaviour of some NeXTStep UI objects is _hard_. Two examples: try putting PopUpLists into the title area of an NXBrowser, and try splitting the title area of a DBTableView into two (as a certain company recently requested bids for). The reason it's so hard is that the design of objects like these do not reflect an elegant composition of smaller objects. They're more like mini applications. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Organization: Madge Networks Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:48:50 GMT Message-ID: <CwLDDG.LK7@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rd6v$nm8@samsara.circus.com> Adam Deishu Beeman (buddha@samsara.circus.com) wrote: : There's also a Mac emulator called Executor. SoftPC runs at I believe around : 80% of native speed, but that's merely a number I heard from someone else. : The app itself is functional, but in all honesty not terribly robust. Version 3.10 of SoftPC, of which there is a demo version with NEXTSTEP 3.2 isn't very robust. However the current version, 3.11 is a vast improvement, so make sure you get the right version. The keyboard responsiveness is also much improved, and generally it feels faster. Some things will go 80% of native, other things will go slower than that, it depends on what sort of thing the app is doing. On 3.11 most apps are very usable if your system has enough RAM.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 19:50:25 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <35vbi1$ick@digdug.pencom.com> References: <kiUiJK600Uh7E2wvNe@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <kiUiJK600Uh7E2wvNe@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: :> I'm pretty sure the previous poster was referring to the rather _old_ :nature > of the filesystem, the non-ethernet networking utilities :(UUCP, PPP, SLIP, :> etc.), and the low interest on NeXTs part about upgrading any of these :(just > try to ask them about UUCP -- "Why would anyone want to use :that?")... : :Ahh. Well, I can see that, although you can get upgraded versions of :UUCP (TaylorUUCP works well as a drop-in replacement) and there are :several options (Morningstar, Transsys, and a freeware version, I :believe) to get SLIP/PPP. I believe that is the point... _YOU_ can get the "free" (or third party) versions of the good stuff... What is the difference then between NEXTSTEP (as it applies to these standard UNIX utilities) and Linux? Not much. :As for the "rather _old_ nature of the filesystem", how does that :matter? What can't you do now, or what benefits would you gain as a :user if NeXT upgraded to a newer version of their UFS? Hmmm... Let me count the ways: 1) A journalling filesystem. 'fsck' would no longer be necessary to fix disks marked 'dirty' on boot up. 2) A "virtual" filesystem (to steal a term from AIX). To allow mirroring, dynamic size increases, multiple physical disks represented as a single "virtual" disk, disk striping (for performance), etc. 3) Plain old speed improvements. 4) Object-oriented filesystems (don't know what this is, but it should fit nicely on a NEXTSTEP system...) Let's face it, the rest of the world is not stopping development on these "UNIX"isms. If NeXT does, they will fall behind. They can't invest _all_ of their development efforts into EOF, OO, etc. without making sure the OS foundation upon which they've built their system is at least a strong as their competitors. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 23 Sep 1994 13:35:52 -0700 Message-ID: <35ve78$c8p@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <eahu223.54.00161FA4@orion.oac.uci.edu> <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> <CwLH8q.Hxx@fi.gs.com> singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) writes: >This ability to get things done, is largely unproven on Linux. It is? How does one measure that? If by number of seats sold, then you largely have a tautology, eh? ;-)
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: hurry!: want to buy or rent a external floppy drive for my cube Date: 23 Sep 1994 04:06:31 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: all Message-ID: <35tk87$fqg@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I need a external floppy drive for my cube to install NeXT 3.2. If you want to sell your external floppy drive or lend it to me (sure, I am very willing to pay to rent it), please email to "kuocy@ecn.purdue.edu." sincerely, Chun-Yen Kuo
From: kc@yucca.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Date: 23 Sep 1994 14:55:13 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <35vis1$ej@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? OmniWeb 0.7.5 will be released within a week or so, and will include full proxy support through the Preferences panel. If you don't want to wait, you can try something like this: % setenv WWW_http_GATEWAY http://your-proxy-host/ % setenv WWW_ftp_GATEWAY http://your-proxy-host/ % setenv WWW_gopher_GATEWAY http://your-proxy-host/ % /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb This only works under NS/Intel; it doesn't work on black or green hardware. (Those will be fully supported in 0.7.5, though.) Ken
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Check Book application? Date: 24 Sep 1994 03:02:33 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3604s9$c96@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook > without costing me an arm an a leg? > > I am but a college student... CheckSum is pretty reasonable. You can get a demo of it off the ftp sites, so you can find out what it's like before buying it. Make sure you get version called CheckSumDemo1_15.tar, from earlier this year. There's often earlier demo versions around too. I think the newer demo is available on ftp.cs.orst.edu in directory /pub/next/demos/spreadsheets, but things may have moved around there recently. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: slip and 3.3 Message-ID: <CwM5F8.FK8@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 02:54:43 GMT Anybody know if transys slip for black hardware is going to be fixed to work w/ 3.3 ? -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 10:59:46 +0000 Message-ID: <9409241034.AA00634@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <35ks5s$kce@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes: > > >> Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath > >> NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and > >> to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. > >> I expereinced both. > <text deleted>> > If somthing goes wrong it is very difficult to fix unless you are the > root guy (meaning having a lot of exp. doing things like that). Under > DOS or the legalized virus (window 3.x) it is still much easier. > Again I have done both. > Jean-Marc; I have been following this and I supsect that a fundamental point has been missed. You, I venture to suggest, are a PC person in that you like and enjoy the freedom which *personal* computing provides. You are also extremely impressed with the ease and rapidity of building straight forward applications using the likes of MS Access and other such "user orinted" tools. Power-users of Dos/Windows (is that a contradiction in term ? ;-) will always find UNIX and NS "hard" because it is a substantially more complex environment; I suggest that you believe that UNIX / NS is too complex (and unnecessarilly so ) ? The real difference here is scale and ability to scale. The system you build on Dos/Windows will be completely impossible to scale to enterprise operations and a nightmare to maintain. The systems being built and deployed under Unix (and NEXTSTEP in particular) are entreprise enabled as they are build upon a solid foundation of a multi-user os; Dos and Windows are technically flawed and yet BTGs ;-) insist upon it - such is MS' marketing power. John -- -- John I. Stephen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 11:03:30 +0000 Message-ID: <9409241100.AA00675@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <jpanicoCwFKKo.BuK@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > > I just have to interject something here. What's so easy to use and conceptually > non-complex about windows? In all sincerity, it took me only about 5 hours > to install NS on my machine, whereas it literally took me days to get windows > to work properly. What is simple about 640K memeory segments, and the > conceptual complexity needed to "break the 640k" barrier. I tried to > get a MPC compliant game running running under windows and it literally > took me 2 days, and hours on the phone with the guy from Electronic > Arts about how to arrange all the stuff in the autoexec.bat,config.sys, > win. whatever it was. > You are so right; in the year that we have adopted NEXTSTEP, we have had no problems with users playing or tampering with their system files; no memory problems; no application crashes or resource limitations, preventing display nad/or printing (good old Excel). However, I still have a large bunch of committed Windows users and recently we deployed a client server mail system which requires the use of TCP/IP. The sheer time and complexity of setting up each machine individually is a nightmare. The users aren't happy as they cannot retain reliable connection to the host; and they belive that the problems are anything but Windows and Dos. We should really branch off this thread to discuss Cost of Ownership, Windows versus NEXTSTEP (and ordinary UNIX too ;-) John -- -- John I. Stephen
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 11:00:10 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <UiV3vuS00iV081ELx9@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <MARCUS.94Sep23023303@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed > SCSI disk performance on my NeXTstation (500kb/s) is below ESDI performance > on a old 33mhz 386 I use! (800Kb/s). Linux suffers from the > same crummy hardware, so? So...try comparing the performance under NEXTSTEP with the same drive and the same hardware to the performance under Linux. Comparing different drives on different machines accomplishes nothing. [ ... ] > NeXT keeps insisting that `all the bugs are fixed' in GCC (2.2.2!), but, > funny, I can cross compile for NeXT and they go away! Details, please. [ ... ] > cs> Wonderful. You get to run an outdated version of WP under X11. > cs> How can you restrain yourself from shouting with joy? > > SCO has a bigger base of customers and applications than NEXTSTEP. So does MS-Windows. That doesn't mean I'd want to run Windows any more then I'd want to run SCO and X. > cs> I'll happily take NeXT's GUI over X. > > Perhaps I will too, when I can use it portably, from Sun, on X. Sounds like OpenStep is what you're looking for, then. [ ... ] > See comments about Mach-O above. No default implementation of brk() and > sbrk() is another annoying misfeature. What in the world are you doing that depends on _those_ calls? If you really want to get some page-aligned memory directly from the system in a machine-dependant manner, try vm_allocate. [ ... ] > I was addressing a potential Unix hobbyist. If you want to get > invested in the brutal, somewhat uninteresting world of financial data > managment. By all means, NEXTSTEP is an attractive environment. For > most modest-budget hackers, Linux is just a much more sensible option, > and in some ways a step up. If, by "hacker", you mean someone who is going to spend all their time as a "Unix hobbyist" (I have to cringe at that phrase), massaging their operating system by continuously downloading all of the newest patches for GNU stuff and endlessly recompiling things just because a new version of whatever came out, regardless of whether or not the previous version worked fine or not, then sure, Linux may be the better choice. If you want to get an operating system that allows you to be more productive then most other environments allow, NEXTSTEP is probably the right choice to make. > cs> For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so people) development > cs> projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. > > Depends who the `10 or so people' are and what the problem is. The > GUI framework, and development tools of NEXTSTEP are solid and useful, > but hacking NEXTSTEP gets boring -- it is just much too closed. Here's that "hacking an operating system" phrase again. I use NEXTSTEP as an environment to do more interesting and productive things than being a "Unix hobbyist"; I have little interest in "hacking NEXTSTEP" simply for its own sake. That _is_ boring. (Of course, I'd probably find "hacking Linux" in the sense you apparently mean to be just as boring.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 24 Sep 1994 09:22:41 -0700 Message-ID: <361joh$1fg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <UiV3vuS00iV081ELx9@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >So...try comparing the performance under NEXTSTEP with the same drive >and the same hardware to the performance under Linux. If anyone has SCSI equipment that gets about 1mb/sec consistently for reading and writing on a 25mhz NeXTstation I'd love to hear about it. I could be wrong, but this has been my experience. I pointed out the ESDI/slow 386 machine drive as an example of a configuration that one would expect to be slower. >> NeXT keeps insisting that `all the bugs are fixed' in GCC (2.2.2!), but, >> funny, I can cross compile for NeXT and they go away! >Details, please. Oh, for one thing, NeXTs GCC will leave extra debugging symbols that the assembler can't resolve. >What in the world are you doing that depends on _those_ calls? If you >really want to get some page-aligned memory directly from the system in >a machine-dependant manner, try vm_allocate. Yes, thank you for the lesson on Mach memory allocation. brk() and sbrk() are used in much Unix software for custom mallocs, and garbage collectors. Just an example of non-trivial-to-fix Unix incompatibility. Yes, I understand the more general vm_* calls could introduce conflict, but so-long as you were just compiling vanilla Unix software there wouldn't be a problem. Classic we-know-better-than-you thinking from NeXT. >If, by "hacker", you mean someone who is going to spend all their time >as a "Unix hobbyist" (I have to cringe at that phrase), massaging their >operating system by continuously downloading all of the newest patches >for GNU stuff and endlessly recompiling things just because a new >version of whatever came out, regardless of whether or not the previous >version worked fine or not, then sure, Linux may be the better choice. By "hacker" or "Unix hobbyist" I (and as I would expect most people) mean the person who wants to be able to learn about computer systems at many levels solve problems by relying on her/his own initiative. A potential "Unix hobbyist" is presumably willing to adapt to some rough edges. I know -- scum-of-the-earth-compulsive-programmer-losers. >If you want to get an operating system that allows you to be more >productive then most other environments allow, NEXTSTEP is probably the >right choice to make. But if you are interested in working with other systems and maybe even (oh dread) `hackers' NEXTSTEP will only box you in. With Linux you will have complete source code of excellent quality, relative easy to configure, and will have more flexibility when it comes to working with other kinds of Unix implementations. If you get hung up on unnecessary kernel upgrades and needless patching, that is your proble, but at least you are free to do so. >> cs> For single-person through medium-sized (10 or so people) development >> cs> projects, NEXTSTEP is pretty much ideal. >> >> Depends who the `10 or so people' are and what the problem is. The >> GUI framework, and development tools of NEXTSTEP are solid and useful, >> but hacking NEXTSTEP gets boring -- it is just much too closed. >Here's that "hacking an operating system" phrase again. >I use NEXTSTEP as an environment to do more interesting and productive >things than being a "Unix hobbyist"; I have little interest in "hacking >NEXTSTEP" simply for its own sake. That _is_ boring. (Of course, I'd >probably find "hacking Linux" in the sense you apparently mean to be >just as boring.) Interesting, I can't imagine there is any motivation to use NEXTSTEP, except for its uniquely good development environment. Certainly not for the applications. Look, there are people I'd recommend NEXTSTEP to, and those are exactly the people NeXT is after. If you are after something more applications-oriented, but want a real OS, maybe consider NT or MacOS 7.5 -- application will be more featureful and cheaper.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 15:12:40 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EiV7ccW00iV9Q2rWdu@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <361joh$1fg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 24-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed > If anyone has SCSI equipment that gets about 1mb/sec consistently > for reading and writing on a 25mhz NeXTstation I'd love to hear about it. You'll love to hear this, then. I have a 25MHz mono NeXTstation with the original 250MB Seagate ST1280 hard drive that gets about 1mb/sec according to IOZone: Writing the 32 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...35.525756 seconds Reading the file...29.556332 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 944510 bytes/second for writing the file 1135270 bytes/second for reading the file (This machine has 32 MB RAM and is using the default number of buffers: 'using 204 buffers containing 1.59 megabytes of memory'. Thus, the above result is raw SCSI performance and does not reflect disk caching in memory.) >>> NeXT keeps insisting that `all the bugs are fixed' in GCC (2.2.2!), but, >>> funny, I can cross compile for NeXT and they go away! >> >>Details, please. > > Oh, for one thing, NeXTs GCC will leave extra debugging symbols > that the assembler can't resolve. I have never even once seen such an error under NEXTSTEP. Post a source code example and the compilation flags used to produce this problem. > >What in the world are you doing that depends on _those_ calls? If you > >really want to get some page-aligned memory directly from the system in > >a machine-dependant manner, try vm_allocate. > > Yes, thank you for the lesson on Mach memory allocation. brk() and > sbrk() are used in much Unix software for custom mallocs, and garbage > collectors. Just an example of non-trivial-to-fix Unix incompatibility. "much Unix software", hmm? Where are all of these programs that use those calls, then? Again, I have not run into a single piece of Unix software that demands to use brk & sbrk over a span of 6 or so years. This includes several pieces of software that use custom memory allocators and/or garbage collectors, such as several dialects of LISP, Prolog, SML, and others. > Yes, I understand the more general vm_* calls could introduce > conflict, but so-long as you were just compiling vanilla Unix software > there wouldn't be a problem. Classic we-know-better-than-you thinking > from NeXT. That's wasn't my point. The vm_allocate call works just fine as a substitute for the brk or sbrk call for getting a large chunk of page-aligned memory. [ ... ] > But if you are interested in working with other systems and maybe even > (oh dread) `hackers' NEXTSTEP will only box you in. I disagree completely. My experience as a system administrator in a heterogenous networking environment has been that a machine running NEXTSTEP is by far the simplest and quickest system to get up and running. If you've got a properly configured NetInfo network available, adding a new machine takes almost no more effort than hooking up the ethernet and turning it on. Trying to get a PC machine running DOS/Windows to comminucate usefully with other machines on the net is a far more difficult exercise. I have never administered a Linux box, but it probably is quite comparable to a SunOS machine in terms of sysadmin requirements. [ ... ] >> I use NEXTSTEP as an environment to do more interesting and productive >> things than being a "Unix hobbyist"; I have little interest in "hacking >> NEXTSTEP" simply for its own sake. That _is_ boring. (Of course, I'd >> probably find "hacking Linux" in the sense you apparently mean to be >> just as boring.) > > Interesting, I can't imagine there is any motivation to use NEXTSTEP, > except for its uniquely good development environment. Certainly > not for the applications. There are non-technical people who don't know Unix and don't program who use NEXTSTEP because of its user interface, the quality of its applications, its ease of use, or other factors. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linux & NeXTStep Date: 24 Sep 1994 20:57:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <3623sh$g86@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <EiV7ccW00iV9Q2rWdu@andrew.cmu.edu> It is interesting to observe the discussion on this thread. I have a 25Mhz NeXTDimension with gobs of stuff (hardware and software), running NS of course!! And my friend has a P60 running Linux. Nearly all the applications and types of work I can do on my machine (using PPP and dynamic service provider) he can do on his. Sure NS has lots of functionality and things (software and on black . the hardware) are well integrated together. But the issue I see is two fold. First with linux source is freely available. Need to fix a driver or write another, check out whats there and just do it!! How long have we been bitching for a better SCSI driver, or serial driver on NS. I find the fact that the complete source is available for FREE to be a very attractive feature of linux. And there are many others who agree! Which takes me to point two. Granted everyone should make money off their hard work, but software for NS is amazingly expensive. On par with other workstations granted, and yes student discounts are greatly appreciated. GREATLY. Under linux the available software is limited, but already they have SLIP & PPP, X (which is fast BTW!! if only 8 bit), GhostScript, etc. and this stuff is FREE with SOURCE!! Even though my friend and I really like NS, we feel that right now linux has more potential, predominantly because the number of machines running it will grow much faster than NS. I grant you all the nightmares of PC architecture are there, but they are there under NS/I too (just as bad), and that most PC owners are rebooting under other OS's all the time to have available all the other software for PC's. You know I'd at least like to have a choice.. And yes there is SoftPC which my version 2.0 totally stinks, and the DayDream to give you a Mac. But there are times I really want to get at the hardware to do stuff FAST (like bitblits), and on the NeXT and under NS it's difficult. Perhaps the lack of acces to my ND is slanting my opinion.. And I hope NeXT finally gets off it's duff and adds SMP support as was indicated some time ago (be nice to add boards to cube and get extra cpu power!!), and the SCSI, serial drivers need serious modification!! Then to top it off NeXT's attitude towards 3rd party developers etc. expecially Talus, and I have no doubt other companies who were willing to do work for NeXT for FREE to fix or enhance parts of the OS. And this paranoid attitude of NeXT towards individuals and small groups in the end might bring the death of NeXT.. Where as with linux the individual is the key ingredient. Heck my friend added support for his PCI SCSI card in the system kernal.. How many would tackle this job under NS. And lastly perhaps I'm still naive about NS and it's potential benefits. Certianly the programming environment is vastly superior to many others.. AND many have contributed objects for us to use FREELY (Yackman, Johnson, forgive me if I don't know others).. But we still do not have a system whereby when I buy an app that any of the objects within can easily be grabbed to be used in other apps I might want to write. I have to go back and reinvent the wheel, or set the app up as a service to get at the fragments in it (in a very limited way to boot). I had hoped that OO technology would allow programmers to just grab objects and build software like one would assemble leggos or something, and of course everyone is guarding their objects/source viciously. But perhaps I'm just a dreamer. And can one expect to use a pipe within a house without the house?? But when I buy a house I'd like to be able to mess with the pipes.. Anyway just a dreamer I guess, Humbly submitted, Randy Rencsok
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 24 Sep 1994 14:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3624td$5i8@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <EiV7ccW00iV9Q2rWdu@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >IOZONE performance measurements: > 944510 bytes/second for writing the file > 1135270 bytes/second for reading the file :-) That is below 1mb/sec average. My point is simply this: SCSI performance is one of NEXTSTEP's weaker areas. It is even weaker than Linux in its youth. Cheap SCSI subsystems for DOS are faster. NeXT is way weaker than a Sparc 1 (a machine of comparable performance to a 25mhz NeXTstation) in terms of SCSI performance and driver features. NeXT has traditionally been bare-minimum when it comes to hardware support. The SCSI tape interface is absolute minimum. >I have never even once seen such an error under NEXTSTEP. Post a source >code example and the compilation flags used to produce this problem. If someone wants the sources, I'll send them to you. Clearly Chuck thinks I've got an axe to grind, which I don't. NeXT, by staying back at old versions, is simply indicating that they feel that there customers care more about stability of the old feature set (which I think is strange, considering many NeXT developers did care about C++, and there were lots of C++ fixes between 2.2.2 and, say 2.4.5). That is up to them and NeXT majority of customers of course, but it is an indicator to _what that audience is_. It clearly isn't the individual and it certainly isn't the hetergenous Unix user/developer. >"much Unix software", hmm? Where are all of these programs that use >those calls, then? Again, I have not run into a single piece of Unix >software that demands to use brk & sbrk over a span of 6 or so years. >This includes several pieces of software that use custom memory >allocators and/or garbage collectors, such as several dialects of LISP, >Prolog, SML, and others. NeXT provides a mmap interface (without any documentation BTW), most HLLs uses mmap for vm_allocate-type functionality. But there are some apps, such as a InterViews-based auto-diagram-layout application which implemented its own memory manager. Admittedly this is a minor point for most folks, but it just points to the fact that Unix compatibility is something NeXT has never cared about. (that is until some big customer, such as the government, demands POSIX -- at which time, some half-baked implementation starts showing up piece by piece.) >> But if you are interested in working with other systems and maybe even >> (oh dread) `hackers' NEXTSTEP will only box you in. >I disagree completely. My experience as a system administrator in a >heterogenous networking environment has been that a machine running >NEXTSTEP is by far the simplest and quickest system to get up and >running. If you've got a properly configured NetInfo network available, >adding a new machine takes almost no more effort than hooking up the >ethernet and turning it on. I should have been more clear. For instance, it is easier to work with the rest of the Unix world as a developer under Linux than it is with NeXT. I don't have any observations per networking, although I understand NetInfo isn't universally embraced. In the same category of AIX SMIT, and other proprietary or practically system-specific administration tools. NeXT flatly said they didn't care about Unix -- which isn't right or wrong, but does seem relevant. >Trying to get a PC machine running DOS/Windows to comminucate usefully >with other machines on the net is a far more difficult exercise. I have >never administered a Linux box, but it probably is quite comparable to a >SunOS machine in terms of sysadmin requirements. Yes, but you aren't stuck when something doesn't work (telnet for instance). You have source code, and a large(r) body of net-wisdom to draw on. >There are non-technical people who don't know Unix and don't program who >use NEXTSTEP because of its user interface, the quality of its >applications, its ease of use, or other factors. Yes, there are a handful of usuable applications. A few truly unique ones (like Tailor). Improv was nice, better for Windows. Maybe, OpenStep will be more mainstream. Hopefully we've provided enough information for the poster.
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Linux & NeXTStep Date: 25 Sep 1994 01:41:07 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <362kfj$k3k@core.symnet.net> References: <3623sh$g86@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes > First with linux source is freely available. Need to fix a driver or > write another, check out whats there and just do it!! How long have > we been bitching for a better SCSI driver, or serial driver on NS. I > find the fact that the complete source is available for FREE to be > a very attractive feature of linux. And there are many others who agree! Fine, now try to write a real app under Linux/X-Windows and compare it with writing one under NeXTstep.. "just do it!" :) Steve
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 25 Sep 1994 01:17:17 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <362j2t$2rd@news.bu.edu> References: <UiV3vuS00iV081ELx9@andrew.cmu.edu> <361joh$1fg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Marcus Daniels (marcus@ee.pdx.edu) wrote: : Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: : >So...try comparing the performance under NEXTSTEP with the same drive : >and the same hardware to the performance under Linux. : If anyone has SCSI equipment that gets about 1mb/sec consistently : for reading and writing on a 25mhz NeXTstation I'd love to hear about it. : I could be wrong, but this has been my experience. I pointed : out the ESDI/slow 386 machine drive as an example of a configuration : that one would expect to be slower. Before I get into this let me point out that I LOVE NeXTSTEP and think its mind blowing how many things are completely transparent, intuitive, and just plain beautiful to look at. BUT... the SCSI performance under NS has always been pathetic. The drivers on the black hardware were JUNK and performed worse then anything I have ever had the misfortune to be stuck with. I have not seen halfway decent performance under NS until the new DPT drivers came out and I started to run a EISA DPT 2022 card which finally brought the SCSI to an acceptable (read: comparable to SunOS circa 1990 or so), level of performance. Linux is MUCH better in this regard. As far as the underlying OS... MANY things are somewhat outdated... how important this is to you will of course vary tremendously and depend on what you're using the machine for. If you really give a shit though, its just has simple to download functioning up-to-the-second versions of every-new-unix patch under the sun, for NeXTSTEP, as it is for linux. So if that's how you enjoy spending your time, you can waste just as many hours doing that with NS and Mach as with Linux. Personally this wasn't something I thought of as being "fun".
From: sjw@cs.umd.edu (Shuo-jen Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Phonetic symbols Date: 24 Sep 1994 21:24:36 -0400 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <362jgk$crd@tove.cs.umd.edu> Hi, I am interested in the dictionary software in the next. Is there any industry standard in phonetic symbols storage and input method ? My friend want to write a program to access the data file of that dictionary. Is there any information about that ? Thanks Shuo-jen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Re: space on ms-dos_6 drive Message-ID: <CwnzEJ.vD@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH References: <59297.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:39:54 GMT "D. Todd White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> writes: >What you need is the DosFileSystemPatch found on ftp.next.com, which will >fix that, and several other bugs with accessing the DOS partition through >NeXTStep. This is a good a thread as any for me to jump in on...... I too am having lots of fun DOS filesystem problems, even AFTER applying that patch.... I have 3 hard disks in my homebuilt 486/66 (AMD CPU) system; two IDE's and one SCSI. The 2nd IDE and the SCSI have DOS FAT filesystems on them, and every time I log in, NEXTSTEP asks if I want to format them. Unnerving, eh? I backed up the IDE and then told it to go ahead, but it wouldn't do it -- the console came up with a "can't eject hd1" error. On the first IDE drive, I have four partitions: one 30 meg DOS 6.2 FAT, one 90 meg OS/2 FAT, 1 meg OS/2 Boot Manager, and the rest for NEXTSTEP. It DOES find the C: drive and mounts it at login, and I was even able to add stuff to rc.local to load dosfs_reloc and mount it permanently at bootup. It completely ignores the D: drive, but I can deal. So NEXTSTEP can't read the other two hard drives, can't format them, and if I try to go in by hand and do a "mount -t dos /dev/rhd1h /spam", it actually DOES mount the disk without a gripe, but as soon as I try to access it, or even so much as do a "df", I get a kernel panic. Ouch. The drives are perfectly readable to DOS and OS/2 and even Linux before I installed NEXTSTEP over top of Linux... What I really want is for these to be mounted at boot time, but I will settle for it just not asking me to format the damn things. :) For what it's worth, the SCSI is hanging off an Adaptec 1542B, and there's a PAS-16, NE2000 clone, and a Hercules Dynamite Pro (et4000-w32p) in the machine too. (16 meg is awful sluggish, tho... :) Thanx as always... -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 25 Sep 1994 02:57:41 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <362ov5$pqp@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <361joh$1fg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > I use NEXTSTEP as an environment to do more interesting and > > productive things than being a "Unix hobbyist"; I have little > > interest in "hacking NEXTSTEP" simply for its own sake. That > > _is_ boring. (Of course, I'd probably find "hacking Linux" in > > the sense you apparently mean to be just as boring.) > > Interesting, I can't imagine there is any motivation to use > NEXTSTEP, except for its uniquely good development environment. > Certainly not for the applications. If you are comparing Linux to NeXTSTEP, which seems to be the topic of this thread, then NeXTSTEP has plenty of excellent applications that do not exist on linux. > If you are after something more applications-oriented, but want > a real OS, maybe consider NT or MacOS 7.5 -- application will be > more featureful and cheaper. If you're comparing to MacOS, then yeah, I can see where the Mac has more applications to choose from. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Linux & NeXTStep Date: 24 Sep 1994 19:48:51 -0700 Message-ID: <362oej$8vg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <3623sh$g86@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <362kfj$k3k@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: >rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes >Fine, now try to write a real app under Linux/X-Windows and compare it >with writing one under NeXTstep.. >"just do it!" :) Some options: Beta ($50 on Linux) Garnet (includes interface builder) [LISP] GNU Emacs 19 or Xemacs ParcPlace OI (C++ development environment, not so great, but freely available) Stk (elk, bigloo, most Schemes have some sort of X11 interface) Tk/Tcl (or countless other q&d solutions) (probably some commercial C++ & Smalltalk svr3.2/4/sco development environments + retargetable for different O.S.'s)
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Date: 25 Sep 1994 02:24:54 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <362n1m$n3a@fungusaur.wizards.com> References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <CwL6wt.7oM@fi.gs.com> In article <CwL6wt.7oM@fi.gs.com> singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) writes: > Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: > : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server > : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through > : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? > : I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use > : SoftPC or Windoze. OmniWeb 0.7.5 supports this through a simple preference. Look for it on ftp.omnigroup.com on Monday. This Monday. Also, it's got a ton of bugs fixed. -Wil
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: answering machine / speaker phone software (Mix) Date: 25 Sep 1994 03:36:38 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <362r86$3m3@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <35t0cb$6il@potogold.rmii.com> In article <35t0cb$6il@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: -> Mix by i.link in Germany is an excellent solution. A fully feature-loaded -> version sells for around $1500 with educational discount. Unfortunately, -> it is presently available only for NeXT machines. The i56 card that will -> enable it to run on PC's should be available soon. Let me know if you'd -> like more information. Egads, the price keeps going up, and the software and hardware haven't much changed since the *first* Expo when the product debuted. Is anyone out there actually using this setup? It is undeniably cool in some aspects, and would be worth about half the price if they would update the software and hardware! -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl for NEXTSTEP Date: 22 Sep 94 15:07:09 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.780246429@coricopat> References: <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> <Cw41oC.6Es@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: >In article <Cw2Kyr.7zx@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: [munch] >> Sorry if this is a FAQ... I looked on the archives to find perl for >> NS/Intel but didn't find it. Does it exist, where ? [munch >It can be found at : jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov under pub perl. >and it should compile under NEXTSTEP using default 'next' and specifying >'short' as the type of uid_t and gid_t instead of 'unsigned short' then >just 'make'... Hell, No! Some kind soul already built a package, all you need to do is doubleclick. Works perfectly, although you have still have to generate the .ph (per header) files by hand if you use system stuff. It is called PERL-4.036.MAB.pkg.tar, and I think I pulled it off cs.orst.edu (now changed to ft.cs.orst.edu). Use archie to look for a location near you. Cheerio, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Cassandra or other PIM Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cwnyy0.H9A@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:30:00 GMT Organization: NDSU ACM I'm looking for a personal information manager (PIM), or more precicely, a personal schedule program. I'd like one that I could use on any UNIX machine, i.e. it uses a text-based interface, but I'll also use one that runs on the NextStep interface. I've found Cassandra 1.5, which uses the NextStep interface, and from what I've tried of it, it pretty much fills the bill. But, I'm wondering if there are any updates to this program, or if anyone can suggest something that might be more to my liking. Keep in mind that I'm a Poor College Student(tm), and won't be able to afford a program that costs >$50. (Heck, for that price, I'll write one myself and sell it!) Can anyone suggest a PIM/schedule program for me? Thanks. -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ NDSU ACM Chairperson, Manager of NDSU ACM Computer Consultants <acm> "We haven't the money, so we've got to think." -Lord Rutherford \v/
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cassandra or other PIM Date: 25 Sep 1994 13:26:05 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <363tpd$si@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <Cwnyy0.H9A@ns1.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <Cwnyy0.H9A@ns1.nodak.edu> cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) writes: > > I'm looking for a personal information manager (PIM), or more > precicely, a personal schedule program. I'd like one that I could use on any > UNIX machine, i.e. it uses a text-based interface, but I'll also use one > that runs on the NextStep interface. > I've found Cassandra 1.5, which uses the NextStep interface, and > from what I've tried of it, it pretty much fills the bill. But, I'm > wondering if there are any updates to this program, or if anyone can suggest > something that might be more to my liking. Keep in mind that I'm a Poor > College Student(tm), and won't be able to afford a program that costs >$50. > (Heck, for that price, I'll write one myself and sell it!) > Can anyone suggest a PIM/schedule program for me? Why not using Cassandra and doing the changes by yourself? /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.README on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de says: >Hola! > > This is the source code for Cassandra. Due to job >and time constraints, I'm no longer able to provide >support for it and have decided to release the source >code to the general public. > I retain the copyrights for now, but if someone >can repackage it under the GNU public license and contact >me (jiro@shaman.dmll.cornell.edu), then I'll rerelease >it as such. > This product is no longer shareware, but if you >want to make a contribution, send $10 to your local >Planned Parenthood, Rape Crisis Center, public library, >or zoo -- they're all underfunded and greatly needed. > > > Hope you all enjoy Cassandra, my main reason >for wanting it to be eventually published as a GNU >public license is so that people can continue to work >on it and improve it. Many thanks to all of the people >who have sent me suggestions, I'm sorry that my new >conditions don't allow me to implement them. > > > Jiro Nakamura > jn19@cornell.edu > jiro@shaman.dmll.cornell.edu > > > Sept. 30, 1993 Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Mail.app bcc? Message-ID: <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:57:38 GMT Well, I was thrashing around in NeXTmail trying to put in a bullet, which is ALT-7. So, I did Command-7 by accident, and up popped a little "Send Options" window which I've never seen before. Among other things it allows you to do a bcc which I've always found annoying that I couldn't do. Is this documented anywhere? It's not on the main menu, and I can't remember seeing it before. - db -- Oh, meltdown. It's one of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to call it an "unrequested fission surplus." -- M. Burns -- It's plainer than a Bulgarian pin-up -- Rimmer -- Jesus, I believe the race was the "front crawl." -- The Vacant Lot -- Rhode Island? They're *never* in contention!!! -- Kramer --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: Signature in NeXTMail? Message-ID: <1994Sep25.155247.10227@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:52:47 GMT In article <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (Scott Davenport) writes: > Is there a way to specify a default signature file in NeXTMail? > I haven't been able to find any reference whatsoever in the help. > > -- > Scott Davenport > sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!) I think this is part of the FAQ. Anyway, here's the section that explains how you can do this: Subject: F18: Can I automatically have my ~/.signature file appended to mail I send with Mail.app? I want to automatically add additional header lines to mail going out from Mail.app (such as Reply-To or X-faces headers). Can this be done? [Carl Edman <cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu>] adds: Yes, on both counts. First create a simple text file the following content: #!/bin/sh { if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi cat - if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; fi }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" A good name for this file would be "sendmail-addheader". If you want to and can install it for system-wide use put this file in e.g. /usr/lib. Otherwise your private ~/Unix/bin directory is also fine. Make certain that this file has execute permission. To set that, use e.g. "chmod 755 /usr/lib/sendmail-addheader". Next, open up the preferences panel in Mail.app. Switch to the expert options. Change the Mailer option from "/usr/lib/sendmail" (which it should originally be) to "/usr/lib/sendmail-addheader" (or whatever the name of the file you created is). OK this and you should be set. >From now on your ~/.signature file should always be appended to all mail sent out with Mail.app. In addition if you have a file called add-header in your home-directory it should automatically be prepended to your outgoing mail. To implement a reply-to line, you would simply give it the following content: Reply-to: My Real Human Name <name@my.real.address> IMPORTANT: Make certain that you have one and exactly one newline at the end of ~/.add-header. Anything might break outgoing mail. Beware ! BUG: The ~/.signature file is not added properly for NeXT mail containing attachments. The headers will still be added properly. This could be fixed but probably is more of a hassle than it is worth. -- Oh, meltdown. It's one of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to call it an "unrequested fission surplus." -- M. Burns -- It's plainer than a Bulgarian pin-up -- Rimmer -- Jesus, I believe the race was the "front crawl." -- The Vacant Lot -- Rhode Island? They're *never* in contention!!! -- Kramer --
From: moran@alpine.lance.colostate.edu (Matthew Moran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app bcc? Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:23:53 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <364f7p$ao@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > Well, I was thrashing around in NeXTmail trying to put in a bullet, which > is ALT-7. So, I did Command-7 by accident, and up popped a little > "Send Options" window which I've never seen before. Among other things > it allows you to do a bcc which I've always found annoying that I > couldn't do. > > Is this documented anywhere? It's not on the main menu, and I can't > remember seeing it before. > > - db Actually, look under the menu: "Tools -> Send Options... O" It's been there as long as I can remember... 0.9b?? Matthew. -- ---------------------- Matthew Moran President & CEO OpenSource, Inc. +1.303.861.4411 +1.303.861.2393 fax
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Date: 25 Sep 1994 17:44:11 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <SWIET.94Sep25134412@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> References: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 21 Sep 1994 04:37:51 GMT In article <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: I won't describe benchmark numbers. I've taken a few, but they are available elsewhere or you can run them yourself. The numbers I did generate showed Cub'X to be much faster, rivaling the speed of normal X displays on Suns, Linux machines, and HP workstations. Anyone know if there are plans for Cub'X or Co-Xist to use interceptor?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 13:55:33 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giVPaJK00iV7I1VXhP@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3624td$5i8@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 24-Sep-94 Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! by Marcus Daniels@ee.pdx.ed > :-) That is below 1mb/sec average. True. It's also "about 1mb/sec", which is what you asked for. > My point is simply this: SCSI performance is one of NEXTSTEP's weaker areas. [ ... ] You're welcome to your opinions. I don't even disagree with your assessment: sure, NeXT could improve their driver performance. However, let's try to make some effort towards self-consistancy, yes? You asked to get a specific level of performance with a specific machine. The facts are that you can get that level of performance with one of the standard configurations that NeXT provided when they were still making hardware. So it's not a problem, right? >> I have never even once seen such an error under NEXTSTEP. Post a source >> code example and the compilation flags used to produce this problem. > > If someone wants the sources, I'll send them to you. Clearly > Chuck thinks I've got an axe to grind, which I don't. I meant the above exactly as it reads. If you have an example where that occurs, please post it and/or NeXTmail it to me because I want to examine it for myself. (It's called "suspension of disbelief". I really and truly have never seen such a problem occur, but I'm quite willing to believe you if you can show it to me. No flames are intended, Marcus, but you _are_ making unsubstantiated claims instead of providing concrete, real-world examples.) [ ...irrelevant noise about C++ support deleted... ] C++ is ugly. Don't use it. Use Objective-C. It just works. ;-) [ ...RE: lack of brk and sbrk support... ] >> Where are all of these programs that use those calls, then? Well? What were you trying to do where this was a concern? If you can't even come up with a single example of where the lack of these calls is a problem, then I don't see that there's a problem! > NeXT provides a mmap interface (without any documentation BTW), > most HLLs uses mmap for vm_allocate-type functionality. So what? Anyone who is a competent programmer can convert these to use the appropriate Mach functions without much problem or time spent, and probably end up getting a performance improvement relative to more standard implementations. If you aren't a competent programmer, it's likely that you can yell for help on one of these newsgroups and get help. Failing that, pay a consultant to fix the problem-- it never hurts the NeXT marketplace to have a lot of short-term jobs opportunities around. [ ... ] > Yes, but you aren't stuck when something doesn't work (telnet for > instance). You have source code, and a large(r) body of net-wisdom > to draw on. I suppose I can see this, although, most of the time, you can get a patch or find source code to roll your own version of whatever when you run into a problem. Every operating system has bugs. However, I don't agree with your implication that problems under Linux are all that different from the problems under NEXTSTEP, because I've seen the course of Linux development and I've heard about the problems and unfixed bugs that other people have had to deal with, even though I've never had to sysadmin a Linux system personally. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Linux & NeXTStep Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:50:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <364gq0$b02@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <362oej$8vg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> In article <362oej$8vg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: > >Fine, now try to write a real app under Linux/X-Windows and compare it > >with writing one under NeXTstep.. > >"just do it!" :) > > Some options: > > Beta ($50 on Linux) > Garnet (includes interface builder) [LISP] > GNU Emacs 19 or Xemacs > ParcPlace OI (C++ development environment, not so great, but freely available) > Stk (elk, bigloo, most Schemes have some sort of X11 interface) > Tk/Tcl (or countless other q&d solutions) > (probably some commercial C++ & Smalltalk svr3.2/4/sco development environments > + retargetable for different O.S.'s) While Linux certainly has many advantages, I didn't see you claim that this list of options will result in a GUI development environment anywhere close to that provided standard with NEXTSTEP. And the fact that you didn't make this claim is a good thing, because I think you'd have a tough time substantiating such a claim. But I didn't see you concede that NS offers a superior GUI development environment relative to anything that can be cobbled together under Linux. Are you not willing to concede that? Of course, development of command-line utilities is probably comparable under both developement environments unless Linux' editors, compilers, and debuggers are significantly better which is difficult to imagine. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wprice@netcom.com (W. Frank Price III) Subject: Using POP with SLIP Message-ID: <netnewsCwp7DG.9JL@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:29:39 GMT OK, I finally managed to get SLIP working for everything besides e-mail. Now the question is whether there is some program to do POP that is compatible with Mail.app? It seems like there must be a simple way to do this, but I just don't know it. Thanks. -Frank Price
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:59:04 -0700 Message-ID: <364h9o$kns@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <giVPaJK00iV7I1VXhP@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >> If someone wants the sources, I'll send them to you. Clearly >> Chuck thinks I've got an axe to grind, which I don't. >I meant the above exactly as it reads. If you have an example where >that occurs, please post it and/or NeXTmail it to me because I want to >examine it for myself. Grab CLISP from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de:/pub/lisp/clisp/source-haible and (try to) compile it with debugging on m68k. I have NS3.2. About half the .d files will not assemble (before you waste any time on it, you only have to delete a few lines in the resulting .s files). It would appear, however, that NeXT has fixed bugs that are otherwise seen with 2.2.2. No it isn't the end of the world, GCC and many types of utilities can be re-installed from GNU/BSD or sources. Workarounds are possible for most things. I expect not to have to do this, though, when I pay for something. :-) All Linux distributions, and many commercial Unix implementations are more modern Unix-wise and interchangeable out-of-the-box. [Again, it is largely a question of matching your direction and intentions with NeXT's. NeXT has something unique to offer. I happen to think it is for a relatively narrow audience, for the time being. ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Message-ID: <1994Sep25.184356.26705@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> <MARCUS.94Sep23025733@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:43:56 GMT In article <MARCUS.94Sep23025733@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu writes: >>In-reply-to: wave@media.mit.edu's message of Fri, 23 Sep 1994 05:59:09 GMT >> >>>>>>> "wave" == Michael B Johnson <wave@media.mit.edu> writes: >>In article <1994Sep23.055909.12776@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: >> >>wave> In article <35rjv1$r3s@cruella.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu >>wave> (Marcus Daniels) writes: >>>>> eahu223@orion.oac.uci.edu (Joshua Rehman) writes: >>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? I am not a developer, but like the interface. >>>>>> Is NS worth my time? >> >>>>> No, not even close. For the hobbyist, Linux is a much better >>>>> choice. >> >>wave> For the graphics hobbyist (not saying that the original poster >>wave> was, but some might be listening) you're right, it's not even >>wave> close. As a matter of fact, nothing on the planet is close to >>wave> NEXTSTEP if you want to hack 2D or 3D graphics. Postscript for >>wave> 2D and RenderMan for 3D; pinch me, I'm dreaming... >> >>RenderMan was a isolated library before it was ever integrated >>into NEXTSTEP, was it not? How has NeXT improved it? With their >>current market, can we really realistically expect to see killer >>improvements. I'm skeptical. >> You're also mistaken. I have Pixar's product for UNIX boxes. NeXTSTEP provides excellent integration of RenderMan into the whole programming environment with the 3DKit and the fact that RenderMan support is integrated into the Window Server. I use the same RenderMan calls to draw to the screen as I do to draw to a file (RIB). QuickRenderMan (qrman) is not available on any other platform, and, in the same way that Display Postscript adds a quantum leap over imagining your output and then sending it to a printer, qrman is a quantum leap over vectorman and other previsualizing RenderMan renderers. >>Wouldn't you be happier if you buy just RenderMan and run it on, say, >>Linux and your SGI boxes? You can't buy it for Linux, and I have it for my SGI boxes (and IBM, and DEC, and HP, and SUN) and no, I'm not happier with it there. The one major difference is that NeXT never fixed the netrenderman stuff, which is a shame. Now that Pixar is about to ship release 3.5 of PhotoRealistic RenderMan, it will be interesting to see if/when NeXT integrates that into their release. >> >>As for Display PostScript, well there is GhostScript 3.0. Obviously >>it isn't nearly as bummed-down as DPS, but it certainly could be >>setup to work smoothly as an X extension. >> Umm, well, from my perspective, there's a world of difference between "could be setup to work" and "just works". I prefer "just works", especially with my hobbyist hat on (i.e. I'm not getting paid to make it happen). >>wave> Especially for students, where the price for NEXTSTEP is not an >>wave> issue ($299 for the whole thing), NEXTSTEP is a mind-blowing >>wave> environment for the hobbyist who wants to hack about with >>wave> graphics. >> >>I wouldn't be suprised if Renderman got dropped (remember MusicKit, >>remember the DSP libraries, remember PhoneKit, etc.) or turned into a >>painfully expensive product like PDO. I'll be curious too see how they >>split things up for 4.0, and if they have a student price at all. >> >> I would be surprised if it was dropped, given that there is little cost to NeXT to keep it in, and the benefits are potentially great. I've asked the appropriate people at NeXT several times over the last two years if 3DKit was going away, and the answer I always get (which I believe) is "no". They certainly have switched in the past, but... Anyway, with the advent of OpenStep from other vendors, I would expect NeXT to push any differences their distribution has (tight integration with the OS, EOF, NEXTIME, 3DKit) as competitive advantages. Only time will tell. As for student pricing, I've seen no indications that NeXT will drop that, but hey, I plan to be back to being a high priced consultant (with finally a PhD at the end of my name) by the time 4.0 ships... ;-) -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using POP with SLIP Date: 25 Sep 1994 19:20:10 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <364iha$t7u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <netnewsCwp7DG.9JL@netcom.com> In article <netnewsCwp7DG.9JL@netcom.com> wprice@netcom.com (W. Frank Price III) writes: > Now the question is whether there is some program to do POP that > is compatible with Mail.app? It seems like there must be a simple > way to do this, but I just don't know it. sonata.cc.purdue.edu: PopOver.v.1.1 in /pub/next/submissions Then you just need an account on a machine running a POP server. Incidently, Mail.app has nothing to do with this. -- Brent Swekla "Sleep furiously." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca PGP public key available on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Linux & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Cwp9IL.CDs@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <EiV7ccW00iV9Q2rWdu@andrew.cmu.edu> <3623sh$g86@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 19:15:56 GMT rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu wrote: : It is interesting to observe the discussion on this thread. I have a : 25Mhz NeXTDimension with gobs of stuff (hardware and software), running : NS of course!! And my friend has a P60 running Linux. Nearly all the : applications and types of work I can do on my machine (using PPP and : dynamic service provider) he can do on his. Unfortunately, many of us(myself included) don't have the privilege of experiencing these two systems beforehand. My workplace and acquaintances don't use either OS. :-( So I am left to my own devices(such as Internet) to discover a better framework than Windows. : Which takes me to point two. Granted everyone should make money off their : hard work, but software for NS is amazingly expensive. On par with other : workstations granted, and yes student discounts are greatly appreciated. : GREATLY. Under linux the available software is limited, but already they : have SLIP & PPP, X (which is fast BTW!! if only 8 bit), GhostScript, etc. : and this stuff is FREE with SOURCE!! I agree that NS software is pricey. It reminds me of the low volume business of AS/400's, and their high prices. For now, I believe that NS offers me the best value as a development environment. Like you, Randy, I feel that Linux may have some value for me in the future; so I plan to adopt it next year as my secondary OS. At this stage of my development, I feel that commercial packages and "open" packages each have something to offer me. When I want a tool that is critical to my needs, or is somewhat specialized, and I don't want to spend time getting it to work, I tend to buy commercial. If I am willing to spend some time on a commodity item, I go in the direction of shareware. Future experiences may change my perception. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Linux & NeXTStep Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:31:01 -0700 Message-ID: <364j5l$l45@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> References: <362oej$8vg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> <364gq0$b02@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >In article <362oej$8vg@ursula.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus >Daniels) writes: >> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: >> >Fine, now try to write a real app under Linux/X-Windows and compare it >> >with writing one under NeXTstep.. >> >"just do it!" :) >> >> Some options: >> >> Beta ($50 on Linux) >> Garnet (includes interface builder) [LISP] >> GNU Emacs 19 or Xemacs >> ParcPlace OI (C++ development environment, not so great, but freely >available) >> Stk (elk, bigloo, most Schemes have some sort of X11 interface) >> Tk/Tcl (or countless other q&d solutions) >> (probably some commercial C++ & Smalltalk svr3.2/4/sco development >environments >> + retargetable for different O.S.'s) > But I didn't see you concede that NS offers a superior GUI development >environment relative to anything that can be cobbled together under Linux. >Are you not willing to concede that? I'm not making the claim that the options I listed are as good (I'm assuming alot about what you mean by this) as NEXTSTEP. And I'm suprised that you would push the issue, as I think that is self evident. What I am saying is that those options, together, address many if not most peoples needs -- even in many commercial environments. The remaining technical differences are minor, and not enough to justify going to NEXTSTEP for lots of *perfectly rational and informed* people. NEXTSTEP, compared to Garnet, for instance, isn't clearly a technically superior design, just more accessible, for most people. Emacs-based elisp/edebug or CL/Ilisp development goes much quicker than PB. > Of course, development of command-line utilities is probably >comparable under both developement environments unless Linux' editors, >compilers, and debuggers are significantly better which is difficult to >imagine. Umm, the compiler, debugger, and editor, are the same but more up-to-date then NeXT's versions. Shared libraries are easier to setup for Linux. The main thing that NEXTSTEP gives you is a well bounded delivery platform, together with a quality C-oriented development environment.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.1, or Linux?! Message-ID: <CwpAEM.F4F@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <EiV7ccW00iV9Q2rWdu@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 19:35:10 GMT Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : I disagree completely. My experience as a system administrator in a : heterogenous networking environment has been that a machine running : NEXTSTEP is by far the simplest and quickest system to get up and : running. If you've got a properly configured NetInfo network available, : adding a new machine takes almost no more effort than hooking up the : ethernet and turning it on. : Trying to get a PC machine running DOS/Windows to comminucate usefully : with other machines on the net is a far more difficult exercise. I have : never administered a Linux box, but it probably is quite comparable to a : SunOS machine in terms of sysadmin requirements. You've outlined the strengths and weaknesses of both platforms, and why there is a market for each. Setting up NS on a machine can be a challenge; whereas, it's very easy to install DOS/Windows. However, interconnecting machines appears to be simple under NS, and can get difficult under DOS/Windows. The choice between two such systems hinges on how important interconnectivity is to your needs. The business environment is placing more emphasis on connected systems; whereas home systems are much less connected(although this is changing, no thanks to the internet). -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: kuocy@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help!: how to boot a cube from CD rom drive without a floppy drive Date: 25 Sep 1994 20:38:12 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: all Message-ID: <364n3k$hk5@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I recently destroy the file "dev/rsd0a" so that I need to install a new copy of ps: if some on Next 3.2 to the haed drive. However my system can not boot directly from the CD rom drive even though I chang the boot device to the CD rom drive ( I do bsd(1,0,0)sdmach =sd1 in the rom monitor and the CD rom drive is device 1) According the next answer, it seems I need a floppy drive to boot from the CD r om drive. However, I have no floppy drive at hands and want to install the new os as soon as possibe. My cube has a optical disk. Is there any way that I ca n install the new os except to get a floppy drive ? Actually, I have try followings method: 1. I do /usr/etc/disk -B /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom /dev/rod0a. 2. reboot the system and type bod(0,0,0)odmach =od0 in the ROM monitor. 3. The system try to boot from CD ROM drive but get a error message like : exception #4 (0x10) at 0x80000 Any help appreciate, Chun-Yen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: How do I convert GIF to JPG? (PD Tools?) In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 16 Sep 1994 07:51:40 GMT To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Sep25100731@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <ROBERT.94Sep16085140@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 09:07:29 GMT >>>>> "RN" == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> writes: In article <ROBERT.94Sep16085140@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: RN> Subject says it all. The ``GraphicsWorkshop'' application can convert between TIFF, PGM, PBM, PPM, XBM, GIF and JPG. You can find it on ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/bitmap -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Comm Software Recommendations Message-ID: <CwpIwL.JCM@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 22:38:44 GMT I am new at NS and would like some guidance regarding communications software. My Intel box runs without ethernet. My networking will be done via the phone line. Currently I use a shell account to access the internet, but plan to use ppp in the near future. As a NS novice, I'm looking for a comm routine that is user friendly(ie, fairly idiot proof), and offers a terminal screen and file exchange. Should I get a package that offers ppp as well? Or should that be another package? Also, I prefer an application that lends itself well to the object environment; one that easily ties together with, say, a word processor. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PasteUp and AFS are triffic! Date: 25 Sep 1994 23:39:15 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <3651n3$1q7@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> Hi all I owned a copy of PasteUp v2.1, and used it occasionally. It was slow and buggy. This past summer I upgraded to the new v2.5 from Anderson Financial Services. To say that it is a big improvement is an understatement. Consider this a rave review. I have recently had a problem with PasteUp v2.5. It was a rather arcane, but sticky, problem with a font incompatibility. I requested help from AFS in tracking the problem down, and Greg Anderson replied promptly. We had a minor flurry of email correspondence to define the problem, vary variables, eliminate possibilities, and generally brainstorm. At one point Greg took some files that I Nextmailed him home to work on them. Thanks to one of his suggestions, I was able to correct the problem. It was y problem, BTW, not a problem with PasteUp. I am using this short story to publicly thank Greg and AFS. They are clearly committed to providing a great product with great support. Although this may sound like an ad, I am not connected with AFS except as a satisfied customer. Peter Foster
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Date: 26 Sep 1994 03:43:58 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <365g1u$pjh@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <35scc8$9qn@pith.uoregon.edu> <CwL6Mp.7Ku@fi.gs.com> In article <CwL6Mp.7Ku@fi.gs.com> singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) writes: >I was under the impression that Mosaic would need the X libraries. If anyone >knows of a Mosaic client that uses NeXT Step, please let me know. I'm working on several WWW-related programs, including a "Clonesaic"--a client with similar to look and feel to NCSA's X Mosaic 2.4. It's not a literal port--most of NCSA's code is so bad, it's easier and saner to simply rewrite the whole damn thing from scratch. My first priority is to get a clickable image map editor out the door. (People here want it...) -=EPS=-
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb TIFF (GIF?) problem Date: 26 Sep 1994 00:10:58 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940926141407.4400AACUF.mmalc@hotaru> References: <35sjnr$dpo@neon.house.gov> > While running Omniweb, I'm not able to view the graphics. The tiff files > appear blank (w/o the word TIFF) and with > "circle-with-the-diagonal-line-through" mark. > You'll need an image filter, such as OmniImageFilter, or the Service in ImageViewer, to view GIF files... If nobody else has told you about these, and you can't ftp them from ftp.cs.orst.edu /software/NeXT/binaries/graphics/ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z or ftp.omnigroup.com /pub/software/OmniImageFilter.pkg.tar please let me know and I'll NeXTMail them to you. Have fun, mmalc. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 (probably silly) questions about printing.. Date: 26 Sep 1994 00:16:18 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940926141934.4400AACUG.mmalc@hotaru> References: <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> > First: is it possible to include fonts when printing from the print panel > to a file (Print->Save) ? The ps output only contains the /findfont <name> > references, and since I want to print the output on a non-NS-machine (which > doesn't have all the NS fonts) I'm stuck. > Yes -- in the Save panel, the box which has the writing "Normal-Device- Independent PostScript" is in fact a PopUp button, which you can change to "Chosen Printer / Include Fonts"* Save will now do what you want... although maybe you should "install" a pretend printer of the appropriate type on your system... Have fun, mmalc. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mail.app bcc? In-Reply-To: samurai@hasc.ca's message of Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:57:38 GMT To: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25131328@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:13:28 GMT In article <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: Well, I was thrashing around in NeXTmail trying to put in a bullet, which is ALT-7. So, I did Command-7 by accident, and up popped a little "Send Options" window which I've never seen before. Among other things it allows you to do a bcc which I've always found annoying that I couldn't do. Is this documented anywhere? It's not on the main menu, and I can't remember seeing it before. That has always been around. Just check the menu under Tools. Carl Edman
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Playing .au files on the NeXT Date: 26 Sep 1994 00:40:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940926144149.4400AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> References: <jorn.6.000D82E2@gih.no> > Can anyone tell me how I can listen to .au files on my NeXT-station? > Mostly changing the .au extension to .snd will work. Some .au files, however, are ADPCM encoded, a format NeXT doesn't handle (though there is PD code available to decode it; I have amended (about three lines of) the source to deal with NeXT Sounds, and can send it to anybody who wants), some don't have headers, and some are actually DEC byte-swapped files. I have also now included limited support for .au files in my Workspace Sound inspector (I haven't included support for ADPCM or byte-swapping yet...!) which I've been wibbling about for ages now. If anybody wants to gamma-test the latest version (no bugs found so far), please let me know -- I can NeXTMail it to you. It's getting pretty close to final release now <sigh>! Have fun, mmalc. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP:Need backup/archive software using remote tape Date: 26 Sep 1994 07:32:14 GMT Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET Message-ID: <365tdu$o3i@hk.super.net> Hi, Does anybody know about software like SafetyNet but could use a remote tape drive ? Thank for your help. Edwin Tam
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP and Linux together on the same hard-drive Date: 26 Sep 1994 08:51:22 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <36622a$ju4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> While all this NEXTSTEP vs. Linux stuff is going back and forth, let me take a minute to ask if any of you NEXTSTEP people have also installed Linux under a separate partition on your hard drives? I have just done so and am curious about 2 things: (1) Which boot manager do you use? I'd like to keep using the NEXTSTEP boot manager, which will allow me to boot from any of the up-to-4 partitions of the hard drive, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the Linux installation process to let me make its partition (in my case DOS has partition 1, Linux has 2, and NEXTSTEP has 3 and is the primary partition) bootable without writing over the boot manager. (2) Has anyone gotten better than default-vga video working with XFree using the Miro Crystal 32S video card. My first very rudimentary attempt to use the S3 drivers did not work. Notes: I'm using NEXTTSEP 3.2 for Intel. I have the Trans-Ameritech Slackware Linux distribution (Linux version 1.0, Trans-Ameritech Release 3 April 1994). -Karl I suppose I should post this to some Linux groups soon if no one here knows....
From: pollak@pluto.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: database and NextStep?? Date: 26 Sep 1994 09:57:49 GMT Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen Distribution: world Message-ID: <3665ut$k0s@archsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> I am looking for a database, easing to program, relational for a Nextstation. It should cost less than 6000 $. German product would be nice. I have Dataphile, but that is not what I need. For any help thanks in advance! Armin -----------Armin Pollak----Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen Telefon: 089 / 6004 3445 Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39, FAX: 089 / 6004 3560 85577 Neubiberg, Deutschland email: pollak@pluto.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Shared Spreedsheet wanted..... Date: 26 Sep 1994 10:20:43 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <36679r$ivo@relay2.oleane.net> Hello, I am looking for a shared spreedsheet. Something like FSSpreadsheet, but with more option on the collaborative way of working. Thanks, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ ............OLEANE will be at Interop Paris, Area B02.............
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP:Need backup/archive software using remote tape Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:23:00 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AiVhZ4G00iVDA2SCdF@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <365tdu$o3i@hk.super.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 26-Sep-94 HELP:Need backup/archive so.. by Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam@hk. > Does anybody know about software like SafetyNet but could use a remote tape > drive ? 'man rdump' (But make sure that you've installed NeXT's patch to fix the problem with the setuid bits under dump/rdump.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: ryan@bader.org (Ryan K. Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Datebook from 2.x developer Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:35:06 GMT Organization: Alpha.net -- Milwaukee, WI Message-ID: <366m6q$9p7@homer.alpha.net> Could someone send me a copy of the NextDeveloper/Demo program Datebook? Seems some of my users actually used that, and they miss it now that they have 3.2. :-) Thanks much! Ryan Brooks ryan@bader.org (NextMail Accepted)
From: robfranz@iiic.ethz.ch (Robert Matthias Franz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ada-compiler for NeXT-cube wanted! Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:07:17 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Message-ID: <366kil$7ea@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Hi all I am looking for any ada-compiler for my NeXT-Cube. Any hints where to get one (Shareware, PD, ftp, etc.) are welcome. Thanx for your help bob \|/ Robert M. Franz (o o) E-Mail >> robfranz@iiic.ethz.ch ___ooO-(_)-Ooo_________________________________________________________ |===== I KNOW YOU BELIEVE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU THINK I SAID, ======| |===== BUT I AM NOT SURE YOU REALISE THAT WHAT YOU HEARD ======| |===== IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. ======| |=====================================================================|
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app bcc? Date: 26 Sep 1994 15:44:25 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <366q8p$sdc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > > Well, I was thrashing around in NeXTmail trying to put in a bullet, which > is ALT-7. So, I did Command-7 by accident, and up popped a little > "Send Options" window which I've never seen before. Among other things > it allows you to do a bcc which I've always found annoying that I > couldn't do. The problem is, that Bcc does not work &^%#$%^#^%^ (at least on Black & Green) I have a feeling, we will see this stuff in NS 3.3 > > Is this documented anywhere? It's not on the main menu, and I can't > remember seeing it before. NO! -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Comm Software Recommendations Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:07:34 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <366rk6$g7b@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CwpIwL.JCM@eskimo.com> In article <CwpIwL.JCM@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > As a NS novice, I'm looking for a comm routine that is user > friendly(ie, fairly idiot proof), and offers a terminal screen and > file exchange. Should I get a package that offers ppp as well? Or > should that be another package? Also, I prefer an application that > lends itself well to the object environment; one that easily ties > together with, say, a word processor. > > -- > >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< > >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages >< Connect It! by Black Market Technologies ($145) should do the trick. Let me know if you'd like more information -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: database and NextStep?? Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:14:20 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <366s0s$gg9@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3665ut$k0s@archsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> In article <3665ut$k0s@archsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> pollak@pluto.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de writes: > I am looking for a database, easing to program, relational for a > Nextstation. It should cost less than 6000 $. German product would > be nice. I have Dataphile, but that is not what I need. > QuickBase by SofDesign is an outstanding, easy-to-use relational database. A 20-user version is less than $4000 and a site license is just $5000. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Shared Spreedsheet wanted..... Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:21:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <366seq$gjl@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36679r$ivo@relay2.oleane.net> In article <36679r$ivo@relay2.oleane.net> dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) writes: > Hello, > > > I am looking for a shared spreedsheet. Something like FSSpreadsheet, but > with more option on the collaborative way of working. > -- Either Questor or Mesa would be good selections. Let me know if you'd like more information. Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: David Anstine Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ghostscript 2.6.1, anyone? Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:32:40 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <366t38$88u@netnews.upenn.edu> I'm trying to get latex2html running on my NeXT. It needs ghostscript to run, but I'm having trouble compiling it. If you've compiled it, could you send me your Makefile and anything else I may need, or give me some advice? Thanks, -dave
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PasteUp and AFS are triffic! Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:02:28 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <366rak$stj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <3651n3$1q7@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> In article <3651n3$1q7@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) writes: > I am using this short story to publicly thank Greg and AFS. They are clearly committed to providing a great product with great support. > > Although this may sound like an ad, I am not connected with AFS except as a satisfied customer. I think they are investing to much time helping you ;-))) I'm still waiting for an offer for WriteUp (after beeing a beta-tester and fell in love, I send 2 mails to a guy in AFS, but I got the feeling, my messages ware redirected to /usr/spool/devnull :-( ). Hei, Greg! Are you reading these lines? Should I write my own TextApp for my Greeny box? -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: CD-Audio to NeXT-snd exist ??? Message-ID: <Cwp5pr.6G@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <CwGMGI.ps@BITart.com> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:53:50 GMT In article <CwGMGI.ps@BITart.com> gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) writes: > In article <358up8$9vl@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) > writes: > > Is there a program, which read AudioCD into the NeXT as sndfiles? > Actually it has. It is available as part of a tools package. It is > available at > arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: > /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/gtools > > You are going to need the files GTools.NI.b.tar.gz and > GKPlayer.GTool.NI.b.tar.gz. I got this version some weeks ago and found that the player module is compiled only for Intel architecture. I tried to mail you, but my mails were bounced. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Message-ID: <Cwp81r.8M@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:44:14 GMT In article <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > [Note: oddly enough, Cub'X is more expensive for non-academic > pricing: $540 vs. $490 for co-Xist, I think.] Following an actual price list from OpenSource, I got last week, Co-Xist is $195, while Cub'X-Windows is $250. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Viewing a quicktime movie Message-ID: <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:41:03 GMT Hi, I have a Mac CD with some quicktime movies on it (at least it's what they claim). I understood the trick of making links to the file AND the hidden resource file in order to have NEXTTIME work properly... But it still doesn't work because NEXTTIME gives me the following message : File Apple.mov uses a missing or unusable Graphics decompressor What does that mean... Can I find this "decompressor" somewhere ? How do I know when a movie is "compressed" or not ? Thanks Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: CDPlayer.app Message-ID: <CwqzuB.BzJ@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:42:10 GMT Ok, after over a year of frustrating playing, I'm about to give up. I have NEVER got CDPlayer.app to actually play an audio cd on my system. I have an external NEC-Intersect SCSI cdrom drive. I have had absolutely no problem whatsoever with using data cd's, updating the system, etc, but playing audio remains a mystery. I've tried different users (myself, root, others), different permissions, public/private window servers, public/private sound servers, auto launching, manual launching, playing with SCSI id's, and howling at the moon- all to no avail. Are there any other player apps out there, or should I give in and chuck the damn drive (or the damn cube for that matter) out the window. thanx in advance jay **************************** Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Viewing a quicktime movie Date: 26 Sep 1994 18:55:22 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3675eq$fs4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: >Hi, >I have a Mac CD with some quicktime movies on it (at least it's what they >claim). I understood the trick of making links to the file AND the hidden >resource file in order to have NEXTTIME work properly... But it still >doesn't work because NEXTTIME gives me the following message : >File Apple.mov uses a missing or unusable Graphics decompressor >What does that mean... Can I find this "decompressor" somewhere ? >How do I know when a movie is "compressed" or not ? If I open NEXTIME's Inspector while command-dragging the QuickTIme files to the NEXTIME icon, I notice that NT (!) only likes Cinepak-compressed files. It chokes on *uncompressed* files. Odd. Maybe Mike Paquette at NeXT can shed some light on this matter... cheers, -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app bcc? Date: 26 Sep 1994 18:10:38 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <3672qu$2lb@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <366q8p$sdc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <366q8p$sdc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes: > In article <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca > (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > > > > Well, I was thrashing around in NeXTmail trying to put in a bullet, which > > is ALT-7. So, I did Command-7 by accident, and up popped a little > > "Send Options" window which I've never seen before. Among other things > > it allows you to do a bcc which I've always found annoying that I > > couldn't do. > The problem is, that Bcc does not work &^%#$%^#^%^ (at least on Black & Green) > I have a feeling, we will see this stuff in NS 3.3 The Bcc/Send Options problems have (hopefully) all been fixed in 3.3. I think the command key shortcuts are documented in the new Power Tips book, which is due to come out about the same time as 3.3. It's a great book with many little tips, by the way. Well recommended! In addition to Command-7 to access the Bcc field, you can use Command-5 and 6 to set the To: and Cc: fields, respectively, and Command-8 and 9 for the user defined fields in Mail 3.3. For those who are beta testing 3.3, check out Mail's release notes -- there are many more new shortcuts for doing common operations quickly without having to resort to the mouse. Cheers, --Lennart Lovstrand NeXT Software Engineering, NeXT/Sun Liason
From: pbannist@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Paul Bannister) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JPEG Viewer for NeXT Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:53:11 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <3678r7$ns0@netnews.upenn.edu> I just ended up on a NextStation at work, and it's without libraries or compilers or anything, so I'd just like to know where I can find a precompiled JPEG viewer for a Nextstation (its an m68k slab). I checked ftp.cs.orst.edu and I found a few things (pocked Video Viewer, xv, etc) and xv loaded, but I have no X support, so that doesn't help, and most o fthe others just gave me garbage (probably compiled for Intel), so if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it muchly. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ People supporting the PowerPC "are| PGP public key available by finger. smoking dope. There's no way it's| Paul Bannister going to work."-Rob Stearns,Compaq| pbannist@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: answering machine / speaker phone software Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:13:42 -0700 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <367di6INNo0c@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> References: <35qgl1$179@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <35t0cb$6il@potogold.rmii.com> In article <35t0cb$6il@potogold.rmii.com>, Daniel J. Gamble <dan@opensource.com> wrote: >Mix by i.link in Germany is an excellent solution. A fully feature-loaded >version sells for around $1500 with educational discount. Unfortunately, Is that $1500 US dollars? -- Steven K. Besler - Fourth year UBC Computer Science major. Email: <x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> Web: <http://www.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca/spider/x4y092> "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. No is the answer."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Viewing a quicktime movie Message-ID: <1994Sep26.211410.16951@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:14:10 GMT In article <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: >>Hi, >> >>I have a Mac CD with some quicktime movies on it (at least it's what they >>claim). I understood the trick of making links to the file AND the hidden >>resource file in order to have NEXTTIME work properly... But it still >>doesn't work because NEXTTIME gives me the following message : >> >>File Apple.mov uses a missing or unusable Graphics decompressor >> >>What does that mean... Can I find this "decompressor" somewhere ? >>How do I know when a movie is "compressed" or not ? >> It means exactly what it says: the movie was compressed using a codec that you don't have. NEXTIME 1.0 supports a reasonable set of codecs: Road Pizza, JPEG, Apple Video, CinePak, and NeXT's own micro wavelet based one. The only "standard" one they're missing is Apple Animation, which may be what your movie is compressed with. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Viewing a quicktime movie Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:56:44 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36791s$sg@rosie.next.com> References: <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> Keywords: NEXTIME In article <Cwqx0G.2wJ@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: > Hi, > > I have a Mac CD with some quicktime movies on it (at least it's what they > claim). I understood the trick of making links to the file AND the hidden > resource file in order to have NEXTTIME work properly... But it still > doesn't work because NEXTTIME gives me the following message : > > File Apple.mov uses a missing or unusable Graphics decompressor > > What does that mean... Can I find this "decompressor" somewhere ? > How do I know when a movie is "compressed" or not ? The message just meand that the type of compression ("Graphics") is not supported by any of the decompressor components on your NEXTIME 1.0 installation. There are a number of different compression schemes used for QuickTime movies. NEXTIME 1.0 ships with video decompression components for: Road Pizza (aka "Video") Cinepak (the most popular of the current compressors) JPEG (high quality, but not real-time) MicroWavelet (A NeXT propriatary scheme) There are no third party sources for compressor and decompressor components just yet. Mike Paquette ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business mail only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Editing an mbox message Date: 26 Sep 1994 20:56:45 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <367cid$b8@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> I would like to be able to edit messages in an mbox, but I am encountering a problem when there are attachments (images, application files, etc.). As I understand it, a message in an .mbox is a folder. Inside that folder is file called "index.rtf" containing the text of the message. The folder also contains any attachments to the message. I find that if I go into the index.rtf of a message, edit it, save, and reopen the message in the Mail window, the changes in the text show up just fine, but all the attachments have been lost. If there was a .snd file previously embedded in the message, it is now gone, etc. QUESTION: How can I edit the text of a mail message WITHOUT losing the attachments? Any suggestions would be most welcome. Please reply to: rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (NeXTMAIL always wecome) -Richard Larson Parmenides: "Let is be said then that, as it seems, whether the one is, or is not, in every respect and in every way, both in relation to themselves and each other, the one and the others are and are not, appear and do not appear." Socrates: "Very true!"
From: rdieter@mathlab41 (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Datebook from 2.x developer Date: 26 Sep 1994 21:35:50 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <367ern$af9@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <366m6q$9p7@homer.alpha.net> Ryan K. Brooks (ryan@bader.org) wrote: : Could someone send me a copy of the NextDeveloper/Demo program Datebook? : Seems some of my users actually used that, and they miss it now that they : have 3.2. :-) Ditto! Well, kind of... Datebook was a handy little program, and now that we're beginning to transfer over to i486 NS 3.2, I'd like to be able to use it on White hardware. Is it out there somewhere? If so, where? -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |#include<have_a_nice_day.h> | Nuthin but InterNet |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Message-ID: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 22:23:19 GMT When will NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL processors be released? -Felix coco@bootsie.cb.att.com P.S. Please reply to this message if you're reading this. I am unsure whether my news postings are being routed to the global net or not. So please let me know IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ATT.COM. Thanks!
From: gam@inherent.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Smalltalk Inquiries Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:55:33 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Message-ID: <367jh5$cmp@pdx1.i.net> Keywords: Smalltalk, PARC, XEROX, STAR, object-embedding Hello Readers: I am in a bind and turn to you for help. I was surprised to not find anything in USENET (newsgroups) on Smalltalk. Is there such a newsgroup, and if so, WHERE? I couldn't find one. Anyway, it makes me wonder if the advent of Objective-C and NEXTSTEP has killed off the Smalltalk world. :-) NoT. Anyway, this is YOUR CHANCE to play a small, if not insignificant part in helping me reduce the number of unreasonable software patents. I am doing some legal research and in need of information from the Smalltalk community, and in particular, need information regarding the old XEROX STAR 8010 series workstations. My inquiry concerns the construction of complex documents and support for object linking (in NEXTSTEP, the equivalent today, of course, is distributed objects, and in Windows, OLE). I need to build a chronology ("prior art" in legalease) and a development history of this technology dating back to the XEROX STAR's support for dynamic updates of graphics (for example) embedded in text documents. Funny, I worked on STAR while at Tektronix during the Smalltalk Eval years, but my memory has yellowed sufficiently. If you know of anywhere that I might read up and review the XEROX STAR workstation technology to this end, I would be greatly indebted. Moreover, if you know of contacts on the Internet (read: e-mail addresses :-) where I might locate information on Smalltalk-76 and Smalltalk-80's SUPPORT for this functionality and the STAR's support for the same, that would be way-cool. Since I seldom get into news these days, and my Newsgrazer has been acting up when I try to post under 3.2, I will need an E-mail response directly to gam@inherent.com. Thanks in advance, Greg Gregory Miller J.D. _________________________ Inherent Technologies Inc. 503-224-6751 2130 SW Jefferson St. #300 503-224-8872 (Fax) Portland, Oregon 97201 gam@inherent.com USA //http:www.inherent.com The recent AT&T and MCI Infobahn ads are silly ... they're plumbers, why are they paying Anna whatshername to run around a beach and spout precocious one-liners?
From: hoff@seebach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 (probably silly) questions about printing.. Date: 26 Sep 1994 15:41:51 GMT Organization: German National Research Center for IT Sender: hoff@seebach (Holger Hoffstaette) Distribution: world Message-ID: <366q3v$8ms@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> References: <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <940926141934.4400AACUG.mmalc@hotaru> In article <940926141934.4400AACUG.mmalc@hotaru>, mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: (I wrote) >> First: is it possible to include fonts when printing from the print panel >> to a file (Print->Save) ? The ps output only contains the /findfont <name> >> references, and since I want to print the output on a non-NS-machine (which >> doesn't have all the NS fonts) I'm stuck. >> >Yes -- in the Save panel, the box which has the writing "Normal-Device- >Independent PostScript" is in fact a PopUp button, which you can change to >"Chosen Printer / Include Fonts"* Save will now do what you want... although >maybe you should "install" a pretend printer of the appropriate type on your >system... Unfortunately, it seems that this doesn't work with all applications, although they are printing through the save panel: Preview does not include the fonts - Edit does (and presumably other apps, too) ! Unfortunately, the file in question is PostScript, so Edit is of little help. Does anybody know why Preview keeps omitting the fonts ? Installing a fake laser printer didn't help much, either.. Holger -- Holger Hoffstätte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: sgml and html Message-ID: <1994Sep26.100414.5463@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:04:14 GMT Hi, Is there a FAQ document or book on sgml and html? Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant, SYBASE DBA XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HPPA software binaries (tcsh) ? Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:51:11 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <367j8v$4fi@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> someone here says there's an ftp site that has collected some HPPA software binaries (like tcsh) and made them available. naturally, this someone says he saw a posting, but can't remember the details... is there an ftp site with HPPA stuff ? thanks in advance -paul
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: missing linefeeds Date: 26 Sep 1994 23:14:24 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <367kkg$fe5@news.iastate.edu> References: <1994Sep19.195813.2078@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> bill anderson writes > I use MacKermit on a Mac at home to dial in to my office NeXT Cube. I dial > in to my university network, and then connect to the NeXT. I have the NeXT > set up to recognize the connection as a vt100 terminal. The problem is > that when I am logging in, or writing a message in mail, carriage returns > are not accompanied by linefeeds. This does not happen in vi, nor when I > work on the NeXT directly at the console, nor when I telnet from another > computer on the network. Also, the problem only seemed to start about a > year ago, but I can't pin down exactly when. > > I know there are easy workarounds, such as using vi in mail, or adjusting > MacKermit to give an extra linefeed (in the latter case, you get double > when you quit mail), but being a purist, I think there must be a proper > way to correct this. For example, should I use a specification from > etc termcap other than vt100? > Well, I'm not positive this is the answer, but it may be another example of an old incompatibility in the NeXT termcap file which used to play havoc when I telnetted from a Sun to a NeXT. Go into your NeXT, and if the problem is occurring try typing stty -extproc at the prompt and see if it disappears. If it does then just put this command in your .login or .cshrc file. If not, then I'm no help now and unlikely to be any in the future :) Hope this helps --- Tom > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Bill Anderson -- ========================================================================== = Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: sgml and html Date: 27 Sep 1994 00:09:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <367nsh$69s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Sep26.100414.5463@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) writes: >Hi, >Is there a FAQ document or book on sgml and html? If you can use OmniWeb, NCSA's "Beginnner's Guide to HTML" and "HMTL Quick Reference can be found at http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/Mosaic/MetaIndex.html If not, I can NeXTMail you my copies... -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP:Need backup/archive software using remote tape Date: 27 Sep 1994 01:21:08 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <367s24$t9c@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <365tdu$o3i@hk.super.net> In article <365tdu$o3i@hk.super.net> edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) writes: > Does anybody know about software like SafetyNet but could use a remote > tape drive ? Safety net will do remote backups if you pay them more money for the rich people's licence. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:37:28 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> A discussion I had today with Frame Technologies left me with the distinct impression that FrameMaker 3.0, running on NS 3.2 (Motorola) would cause some relatively serious problems....so much so that they felt it a necessity for me to upgrade to FM 3.2. Sounds simple, particularly in that they have a special offer on the table right now. $495 vs the normal $795. Such a deal! Did I get bum scoop on this issue? Anyone have any problems with the setup I've described? Where's the $495 in value for the new release (other than NSFIP support)? They do have a heck of an application though. Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Parallel Port Driver Alternatives? Message-ID: <CwryI6.CsI@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 06:10:54 GMT I'm inclined to believe that my pp0 allocation failures are attributed to a less than robust parallel port driver. I have heard that there are alternate drivers available. Can someone tell me where I can find them? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Message-ID: <bchin.780632340@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> <SWIET.94Sep25134412@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 02:19:00 GMT swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes: >In article <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I won't describe benchmark numbers. I've taken a few, but they are > available elsewhere or you can run them yourself. The numbers I did > generate showed Cub'X to be much faster, rivaling the speed of normal X > displays on Suns, Linux machines, and HP workstations. >Anyone know if there are plans for Cub'X or Co-Xist to use interceptor? The current co-Xist (3.2) at least does support the DPS interceptor. I don't know about Cub'X. I don't think either take advantage of the simplistic accelerations of modern SVGA cards that simplistic GUI's can utilize. Many PC xbench scores get high scores for being about to do that. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sgml and html Date: 27 Sep 1994 09:29:11 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <368ol7$6d2@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Sep26.100414.5463@free.fdn.org> <367nsh$69s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> [Improper crossposting removed] In article <367nsh$69s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: > NCSA's "Beginnner's Guide to HTML" and "HMTL Quick >Reference can be found at > http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/Mosaic/MetaIndex.html Out of date--and in some cases, just plain wrong. Check out the "New HTML Language Manual" at http://www.utirc.utoronto.ca/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/intro.html Warning: anything you read about HTML+ should be regarded with great suspicion. See http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html -=EPS=-
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTIME Video Hardware/Apps? Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:41:55 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3680pj$ji0@anshar.shadow.net> I need to integrate video into my presentations. Until recently, I was using MS PowerPoint w/ Video for Windows on my laptop, but now that Talus has introduced the T100 Color Notebook, I will be switching to NeXTSTEP. The only video-capture solution I know of for NeXTSTEP is the Movie Machine Pro. Is this card NeXTIME-compatible? (Capable of using the wavelet compressor). Are there any others being developed? (Esp. with real-time hardware compression) Are there any Premiere-like video editing apps on the way? Finally, will I be able to integrate NeXTIME video into Concurrence 2.0 presentations? - Jay ***************************************************************************** *-------------------------------------------------* Phone: (800) 327-5180 * *->->-> Jay Fuchs <> Jaytron Products Corp. <-<-<-* (305) 653-6925 * *-------------------------------------------------* Fax: (305) 654-2815 * ** Miami, FL ** "Wasting away in Margaritaville" ** Email: jjfox@shadow.net * *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Manufacturers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Electric Eyes * *****************************************************************************
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 27 Sep 1994 10:35:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <368sh8$p6m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> In article <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes: &A discussion I had today with Frame Technologies left me with the distinct &impression that FrameMaker 3.0, running on NS 3.2 (Motorola) would cause some &relatively serious problems....so much so that they felt it a necessity for me &to upgrade to FM 3.2. Sounds simple, particularly in that they have a special &offer on the table right now. $495 vs the normal $795. Such a deal! & &Did I get bum scoop on this issue? Anyone have any problems with the setup I've &described? Where's the $495 in value for the new release (other than NSFIP &support)? & Well I just got a copy of Frame3.0.1 and asked the same questions when a rep from Frame called me (15min after sending my license transferral!!) She (Dody (Doe - dy)) told me that for Moto hardware that 3.0.1 was the latest release, no bug fixes to mention for moto. I asked her why when Frame 3.2 was compiled that they didn't throw the switch for moto arch.. She didn't know but would look in to it. I personally couldn't justify paying the $400 for 3.2 if it didn't have anything new (not even bug fixes or whatever). I asked them if this was the case would I get Frame 4.0 for cheap. Or I stated that they'd get a heck of a lot more upgrades if they told moto people that they would 1) Have an upgrade 2) That it would be a serious software upgrade (like Frame4.0) and that we would get it cheap. The point being I couldn't see paying $400 now for nothing, and $400 later for whatever.. Dody said I had good points, and that the Frame upgrade they are offering is predominantly for Intel/HP (or was that just intel?) people switching from Black to White.. If you get any info on this I'd be appreciative.. Randy rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 (probably silly) questions about printing.. Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:03:52 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep26.210352.10888@heinz.com> References: <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting Sender: usenet@heinz.com In article <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes: > Second, does anybody know if Dots (the printer driver > program) can be moved to a different directory than > /LocalApps ? [...] Dots assumes that it lives in /LocalApps, and it won't work if you move it. I know this sounds like it is arbitrary, but you'll have to believe me that it isn't. We've given the problem quite a lot of thought, and decided that this was the best solution to a *lot* of issues involved. You must bear in mind that Dots is not just your typical NEXTSTEP program, it interacts with quite a lot of different parts of the system. Maybe moving the program somewhere else would solve some minor organizational problems you may have, but even if Dots supported it, you would be probably asking for trouble. If you absolutely *need* to have Dots somewhere else, and you won't have it any other way, then please get in touch directly with us, we'll help you out. But then don't say we didn't tell you. Federico Heinz DISCLAIMER: F. Heinz Consultora is the home of Dots, so it's no wonder we think it's perfect :-)
From: nextug@ac.dal.ca (Christopher Majka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does Quix/Daydream still exist? Message-ID: <1994Sep27.111017.27829@ac.dal.ca> Date: 27 Sep 94 11:10:17 -0300 Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Hi Folks! Anyone out there been in touch with Quix, the makers of Daydream? I've been sending them EMail for weeks with no response. Have they gone belly up? Any information appreciated. Cheers! Christopher Majka nextug@ac.dal.ca
From: GREGORY GEE <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem getting past SLIP server. Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:26:01 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <9409271424.AA02706@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Originator: daemon@julian.uwo.ca I finally got SLIP to work on my NeXT. Now the only problem is that I can't get past the SLIP server. I can ping, telnet, anything to the SLIP server, but I can't get access past it. Looking at the activity of my modem, or lack of it, I'd say that it is my machine that can't route through the SLIP server to get to the internet. Is there other config files that I forgot. I am running TRANSYS DialupIP. Any suggestions? **************************************************************************** Greg Gee The G-Man Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted ****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Message-ID: <1994Sep27.142522.639@news.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:25:22 GMT I recently had an email exchange with Lighthouse, expecting to be screwed on my upgrade price for Concurrence 2 (relatively speaking, of course; I hate looking a gift discount in the mouth). Needless to say, I wasn't screwed at all--because I bought it recently, they gave me a free upgrade. In the course of the conversation, the subject of their current educational pricing came up. I'm not sure what I can say exactly about the pricing because the person I was emailing with wasn't in sales. Let's just say every program is available for the same low price: about the cost of a Tai dinner for two with a few appetizers and beers thrown in. It is an amazing price for personal purchases, so if you are a faculty member or student looking for a Lighthouse product, I would say now is the time to buy. The available products are Diagram! - Information graphics and flow charting Concurrence - Outlining and presentation WetPaint - Image manipulation and paint TaskMaster - Project Management Parasheet - Excel-like traditional spreadsheet (shipping in a month) Quantrix - Multi-dimensional Improv-like spreadsheet (shipping in Q4) I know it sounds like an ad, but we need to support those who support us. Only a satisfied customer. Now we need a good educational discount from Omni for Doom II :-). Patrick Phillips Biology Department University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: charlie@snowflake.az.stratus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Backspace module for .pcd files? Date: 27 Sep 1994 15:45:07 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <369em3$msg@transfer.stratus.com> Does anyone have a Backspace module that will display .pcd (Photoshop CD) pictures? I know I can export them out of Photoshop into .tiff, but I'd rather leave them on the CD and display directly from there. Thanks -- Charles Spitzer charlie@snowflake.az.stratus.com Telecom Customer Assistance Center Stratus Computer, Inc. Phoenix, AZ 85018
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:44:19 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <369i53$6r7@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: : When will NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL processors be released? : :-Felix :coco@bootsie.cb.att.com : :P.S. Please reply to this message if you're reading this. I am unsure :whether my news postings are being routed to the global net or not. So :please let me know IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ATT.COM. Thanks! A number of my customers have admitted to using the NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 Beta. Unsubstantiated rumours put the release date at some time toward the end of the year (Mid-november through December). In OpenStep Solutions Magazine, there is a discussion about the SPARC port of NEXTSTEP being beta-tested as well, with a early 1995 ship date. BTW, I am outside of AT&T and read your post on the net. You are now nationwide! -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source for NEXTSTEP Software & Hardware" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My comments reflect my opinions only
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:44:35 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <369i5j$6r9@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: : When will NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL processors be released? : :-Felix :coco@bootsie.cb.att.com : :P.S. Please reply to this message if you're reading this. I am unsure :whether my news postings are being routed to the global net or not. So :please let me know IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ATT.COM. Thanks! A number of my customers have admitted to using the NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 Beta. Unsubstantiated rumours put the release date at some time toward the end of the year (Mid-november through December). In OpenStep Solutions Magazine, there is a discussion about the SPARC port of NEXTSTEP being beta-tested as well, with a early 1995 ship date. BTW, I am outside of AT&T and read your post on the net. You are now nationwide! -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source for NEXTSTEP Software & Hardware" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My comments reflect my opinions only
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:45:55 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <369i83$6rp@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: : When will NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL processors be released? : :-Felix :coco@bootsie.cb.att.com : :P.S. Please reply to this message if you're reading this. I am unsure :whether my news postings are being routed to the global net or not. So :please let me know IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ATT.COM. Thanks! A number of my customers have admitted to using the NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 Beta. Unsubstantiated rumours put the release date at some time toward the end of the year (Mid-november through December). In OpenStep Solutions Magazine, there is a discussion about the SPARC port of NEXTSTEP being beta-tested as well, with a early 1995 ship date. BTW, I am outside of AT&T and read your post on the net. You are now nationwide! -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source for NEXTSTEP Software & Hardware" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My comments reflect my opinions only
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Alert Panel App Message-ID: <CwspGE.8vo@serval.net.wsu.edu> Keywords: alert panel, warning messages Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:53:01 GMT I am looking for a simple application that one can use to raise an alert panel on a users system telling them something about the system... (like "Log off now, system is going down in five minutes"). Are there any programs that have a command line user interface specifying certain text strings to display in a panel? I need to have cron call the program. What we need to do is warn everyone that we are going to boot them off at 11PM everynight and not let them log back in until 7 AM... please email your response as I do not regularly monitor these groups. I will post a summary. -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quickbase 4.0 ?? Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:37:31 GMT Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <369hob$sju@slowhand.nmb.com> Does anyone have handy the company / phone # for the people who make Quickbase ??? (Does anyone have any expirence in using QB? ) Thanks -- Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286 sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:27:44 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <EiW4U0W00iV881dEV6@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <368sh8$p6m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Sep-94 Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? by rencsok@convex.cl.msu.ed > She (Dody (Doe - dy)) told me that for Moto hardware that 3.0.1 was the > latest release, no bug fixes to mention for moto. I asked her why when > Frame 3.2 was compiled that they didn't throw the switch for moto arch.. While they're at it, they might want to (a) compile with '-O4' instead of '-O2' and (b) also perform link optimization. (Neither of which was done, apparently.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: 2 (probably silly) questions about printing.. In-Reply-To: hoff@seebach.darmstadt.gmd.de's message of 26 Sep 1994 15:41:51 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Sep27094229@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <35s7q1$jd4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <940926141934.4400AACUG.mmalc@hotaru> <366q3v$8ms@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:42:29 GMT Holger Hoffstaette writes: Holger> In article <940926141934.4400AACUG.mmalc@hotaru>, Holger> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: (I wrote) >>> First: is it possible to include fonts when printing from the print >>> panel to a file (Print->Save) ? The ps output only contains the >>> /findfont <name> references, and since I want to print the output on a >>> non-NS-machine (which doesn't have all the NS fonts) I'm stuck. >> Yes -- in the Save panel, the box which has the writing "Normal-Device- >> Independent PostScript" is in fact a PopUp button, which you can change >> to "Chosen Printer / Include Fonts"* Save will now do what you >> want... although maybe you should "install" a pretend printer of the >> appropriate type on your system... Holger> Unfortunately, it seems that this doesn't work with all Holger> applications, although they are printing through the save panel: Holger> Preview does not include the fonts - Edit does (and presumably other Holger> apps, too) ! Unfortunately, the file in question is PostScript, so Holger> Edit is of little help. Does anybody know why Preview keeps omitting Holger> the fonts ? Installing a fake laser printer didn't help much, Holger> either.. Preview, if the PostScript file doesn't follow DSC conventions, simply treats the PostScript as a black box and dumps it at the window server, catching every showpage. It's the DSC conventions (%%DocumentFonts (?)) that lets the printing software know what fonts need to be included with the document when downloaded to a printer. Yes, it would be remotely probable to actually run the program and catch findfonts, but your entering really nasty territory there. Which is exactly what the DSC comments are there to avoid. If _you_ know what fonts are needed, you can simly cat them onto the beginning of the file: cat /NextLibrary/Fonts/Times-Roman.font/Times-Roman \ ~/Library/Fonts/FooBar.font/FooBar MyDocument > MyDocument.with.fonts The resulting file should then be printable on any PostScript device. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: lpr woes Message-ID: <Cwstto.Co@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 17:27:24 GMT I am using a version of lpr on our VM/CMS mainframe to print files to the local printer on my NeXT. This seems to work only sporadically. I can hear the local disk spooling the file, but nothing gets printed, and I get this message from lpd: Sep 27 09:38:54 hotspur lpd[1422]: Local_Printer: Lost connection A local expert suggested I try to restart the lpd daemon with: su root lpc start Local_Printer It appears that this does not work unless Local_Printer is the selected printer in the Print panel of any app; but then it does not always work. Can anyone tell what might be going on and how this may be fixed? thx, -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTIME Video Hardware/Apps? Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:54:30 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <369m8m$964@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3680pj$ji0@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: >I need to integrate video into my presentations. Until recently, I was >using MS PowerPoint w/ Video for Windows on my laptop, but now that Talus >has introduced the T100 Color Notebook, I will be switching to NeXTSTEP. >The only video-capture solution I know of for NeXTSTEP is the Movie >Machine Pro. Is this card NeXTIME-compatible? (Capable of using the >wavelet compressor). Are there any others being developed? (Esp. with >real-time hardware compression) Are there any Premiere-like video editing apps >on the way? Finally, will I be able to integrate NeXTIME video into >Concurrence 2.0 presentations? My understanding is as follows: 1) There won't be any easy way of genreating NEXTIME videos until the 2.0 release next year, which will include more compressors, API, example apps, and classes. However, 2) I recall Michael at the interpersonal-computing booth at EXPO telling me that The MovieMachine Pro and the optional CODY compression board are "NEXTIME-compatible". In fact, I'm now looking at their promo literature and it does indeed say that. Try them at mm@interpc.de As regards video editing, I have successfully used TIFFany 2 to edit .anim sequences generated with Capture.app on my NeXTdimension. In case there's any doubt, I don't work for any of these firms. You might ask the Folks at Lighthouse about Concurrence's support for video. -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Re: Editing an mbox message Message-ID: <1994Sep27.094310.26838@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany References: <367cid$b8@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:43:10 GMT Hello, In article <367cid$b8@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > I would like to be able to edit messages in an mbox, but I am > encountering a problem when there are attachments (images, > application files, etc.). > > As I understand it, a message in an .mbox is a folder. Inside > that folder is file called "index.rtf" containing the text of > the message. The folder also contains any attachments to the > message. > > I find that if I go into the index.rtf of a message, edit it, > save, and reopen the message in the Mail window, the changes in > the text show up just fine, but all the attachments have been > lost. If there was a .snd file previously embedded in the message, > it is now gone, etc. > > QUESTION: How can I edit the text of a mail message WITHOUT losing > the attachments? > > Any suggestions would be most welcome. Please reply to: > > rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu > > (NeXTMAIL always wecome) > > -Richard Larson > Why do you want to edit the messages? But if, however, there are references to the external attachments inside the index.rtf file. If you change the content of the file in Edit.app as RTF and save it, the references will be lost. You can edit the index.rtf file in ASCII mode, leave the references where they are and save it, but this will produce strange output sometimes, because the references have there character position as an argument. If you manage to change them accordingly, too, it will be alright (but that is not easy). CIAO Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 27 Sep 1994 18:51:44 GMT Message-ID: <369pk0$lsj@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <1994Sep27.142522.639@news.uta.edu> Patrick Phillips writes > > In the course of the conversation, the subject of their current > educational pricing came up. I'm not sure what I can say exactly > about the pricing because the person I was emailing with wasn't in > sales. Let's just say every program is available for the same low > price: about the cost of a Tai dinner for two with a few appetizers > and beers thrown in. I just can add, its true. They have amazing edu prices. I recently bought an app more than I intended to. And I'm well satisfied. >I know it sounds like an ad, but we need to support those who support us. >Only a satisfied customer. Yes, we have to support the people that are doing a great job for us. Buying their products and spreading word that they are worth it. As I am at it: AFS!! thanks for PasteUp and WriteUp. We just had this a few days ago, I know. I didn't join in then. I do so now. The feature set isn't complete, but what's there I like a lot. And I prefer the *Up's over .Word (!@#$%^&*). Thanks to ..... all the others as well. > Now we need a good educational discount from Omni for Doom II :-) There are more companies missing an edu price. Please, we want to support you as well! -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 27 Sep 1994 18:54:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <369ppo$f1i@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> In article <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes: > A discussion I had today with Frame Technologies left me with the > distinct impression that FrameMaker 3.0, running on NS 3.2 (Motorola) > would cause some relatively serious problems....so much so that they > felt it a necessity for me to upgrade to FM 3.2. ... > Did I get bum scoop on this issue? Anyone have any problems with the > setup I've described? ... I've been using FrameMaker 3.0 on NS 3.2 (Motorola) for the last half year. As a matter of fact, I just finished writing a technical report yesterday. I saw no change in performance when I upgraded from NS 3.1. Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) Subject: how to use nonNeXT-sounds? Message-ID: <1994Sep27.083034.883@mjw.octagon.de> Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 08:30:34 GMT I have some sound-files sampled on a sun, that I need now on my NeXT. Is it possible to convert them, if yes: how? Thanks in advance, --- Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de (NeXTmail OK)
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Date: 27 Sep 94 18:35:23 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.780690923@coricopat> References: <1994Sep22.140424.27523@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <35scc8$9qn@pith.uoregon.edu> fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) writes: >Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: >: At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server >: available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through >: a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? >: I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use >: SoftPC or Windoze. >Why not just use Mosaic for NeXT? I was under the impression that it >was now available. Am I wrong? Yes, you are. But OmniWeb is far better anyway :-) As for Proxy support, it's not very stable yet, and thus is not documented. It has however been announced for future releases. Sigh.. I can't find the specs. Check out the newest version of OmniWeb, it's supposed to fix many bugs. Maybe Proxy support works now. If it's still not documented, ask in the mailing list. Maybe until then I have found the setenv incantations.. sigh.. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beyret@chbs.ciba.com (Tim Eyres) Subject: OmniWeb Proxy Message-ID: <1994Sep27.140145.404@ciba-geigy.ch> Sender: news@ciba-geigy.ch Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd.,Basel,Switzerland Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:01:45 GMT Hi ! Does anybody know of a way to stick a proxy server into OmniWeb in the same way as can be done with Mosaic, ie the proxy definitions in a shell script ? Tim (beyret@chbs.ciba.com) :
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beyret@chbs.ciba.com (Tim Eyres) Subject: Re: Proxy http server in OmniWeb? Message-ID: <1994Sep27.140539.575@ciba-geigy.ch> Sender: news@ciba-geigy.ch Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd.,Basel,Switzerland References: <35scc8$9qn@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:05:39 GMT fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) writes: > Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) wrote: > : At my school, IP traffic is restricted, however there is a proxy server > : available for WWW traffic. I know Mosaic has the ability to route through > : a proxy server. Is there such functionality in OmniWeb for NS/Intel? > : I'd much rather stay in my nice cozy NeXT environment than have to use > : SoftPC or Windoze. > > : Any help is appreciated. > > : -- > : Scott Davenport > : sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!) > > Why not just use Mosaic for NeXT? I was under the impression that it > was now available. Am I wrong? > > Nick Fogelson > Mosaic for NeXT is available but a native NeXT program is better. Has anybody had any luck with answering this message ? and if so can I have some info. please ? Tim (beyret@chbs.ciba.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beyret@chbs.ciba.com (Tim Eyres) Subject: Binaries Please ! Message-ID: <1994Sep27.141747.1156@ciba-geigy.ch> Sender: news@ciba-geigy.ch Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd.,Basel,Switzerland Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:17:47 GMT Please Help me ! I need binaries for a NeXTstation for the following pieces of software. Anyone help me please ? i) Some sort of file viewer like xv ii) Some sort of mpeg player iii) Some sort of NewsReader like tass Any assistance would be greatly appreciated Tim (beyret@chbs.ciba.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Check Book application? Message-ID: <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 19:01:30 GMT In article <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > > Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without > costing me an arm an a leg? Get a copy of Lotus Improv. The tutorial is a checkbook. -- personal opinions
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Frame upgrade Message-ID: <10684@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 27 Sep 94 17:02:06 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA So the other day I got this letter from Frame, with a 'special' upgrade offer ... $495 to upgrade Framemaker from 3.01 to 3.2. After October 31st, it will go up to $795. Being a user of black hardwre, does this buy me anything? This feels like one of those "squeeze" upgrades; pay now or pay a lot more later. Time to move to PasteUp or Pages?!? -peter
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sgml and html Date: 27 Sep 1994 21:47:17 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36a3t5$au4@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Sep26.100414.5463@free.fdn.org> In article <1994Sep26.100414.5463@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) writes: :Hi, : :Is there a FAQ document or book on sgml and html? : :Cheers : :Fabien :-- : SGML or "Standard Generalized Markup Language" is a government supported standard (part of the CALS initiative) which is intended to improve the transportability of documents among various formats. For example, the standard fightjet has over 1 million pages of documentation. The goal is to make all 1 million pages format together in a coherent way (despite the fact that there were thousands of different authors on dozens of different word and document processing systems). For more information about SGML, I recommend that you talk to the experts. Avalanche Development Company, founded by Haviland Wright and now owned by Interleaf Corporation, has made a business out of providing SGML conversion software. Their FastTAG product is not on NEXTSTEP yet, but its the best. They can be reached at 303-449-5032. Regards, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: HPPA software binaries (tcsh) ? Message-ID: <Cwsz1x.71L@trapac.com> Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <367j8v$4fi@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 19:20:21 GMT In article <367j8v$4fi@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) writes: >someone here says there's an ftp site that has collected some >HPPA software binaries (like tcsh) and made them available. If you need a triple fat version of tcsh, there is one on The Fatted Calf CDROM. If you don't have the CDROM, let me know and I will be more than happy to NeXTMAIL the file to you. (or anyone else reading this message) -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X for NS/HPPA ? Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:35:39 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <36a6nr$o4c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Some weeks ago, this question was here rejected due to NS/HPPA not yet being released. Now that it is available, are there yet any X packages for it ? How do they perform compared to the HP/UX X server ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: jburne@panix.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does Quix/Daydream still exist? Date: 27 Sep 1994 19:44:24 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <36aaoo$5qq@panix.com> References: <1994Sep27.111017.27829@ac.dal.ca> In article <1994Sep27.111017.27829@ac.dal.ca>, Christopher Majka <nextug@ac.dal.ca> wrote: >Hi Folks! > >Anyone out there been in touch with Quix, the makers of >Daydream? I've been sending them EMail for weeks with no >response. Have they gone belly up? > Try tim at dancingbear.com They are a dealer for Quix and would probably know the scoop. I hope they are still around, Daydream is a decent product.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there any scientific graphing for NextStep? Date: 28 Sep 1994 00:39:24 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36advs$e9u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I want to process and plot laboratory data, specifically log-linear plots with curve fitting. Graph and document templates, push and click modification of axes, ranges, labels and so forth would be nice. I have Espionage and GraphRight and have tried the Chartsmith and GraphBuilder demos. I have also done significant plotting with mathematica. None of these applications meets the specs I described above (good curve fitting beyond polynomial fits, especially), and I'm currently stuck using KaleidaGraph on a Mac. KaleidaGraph is a great app for 2D plotting, but it isn't available for NextStep. Can any other scientist with NextStep suggest a good NextStep graphing solution? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: stanifor@shasta.cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Catchup button in Newsgrazer Date: 28 Sep 1994 00:56:04 GMT Organization: Information Resources, UC Davis Message-ID: <36aev4$hug@mark.ucdavis.edu> I'm having a problem with the catchup button in NewsGrazer. Every time I press it, the application trashes my .newsrc - removing half of the groups. This makes it almost unusable - I'm about to switch to tin. Can anyone suggest a cause/solution/workaround? I'm using Release 3.0 version 75 on an Ecesys Pentium running 3.2. Stuart Staniford-Chen. stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: benst@stuyts.nl (Ben Stuyts) Subject: Re: NeXTIME Video Hardware/Apps? Message-ID: <Cwt7n0.3Ax@stuyts.nl> Organization: Stuyts Engineering Haarlem BV References: <3680pj$ji0@anshar.shadow.net> <369m8m$964@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:25:48 GMT In article <369m8m$964@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, weintz steven cortelou <indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: > As regards video editing, I have successfully used TIFFany 2 to edit .anim > sequences generated with Capture.app on my NeXTdimension. I have a NeXTdimension too, and have been unable to do any succesful video capturing since 3.0 or 3.1. Does anybody have any luck with this? The problems I have range from just black images, console msgs about IPL5 irq's, up to window server crashes. I have reported this a few times to nextbug, but to no avail. Does anybody know if these problems have been fixed in 3.3? Is there an app that will let me capture live video on 3.2? Thanks, Ben
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please, where are PPP binaries for NSFIP Date: 28 Sep 1994 01:10:21 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <36afpu$9ma@goodnews.globalcom.net> Hello, all! I have NS/Intel 3.2 up and running - it's beautiful! But, I am forced to go back to Win3.1 to connect to the Internet :-(, because I need PPP binaries for this machine. I know about the ftp:/ftp.enst.fr site, but this only seems to have source, and while I have Ns Developer, I currently don't have the disk space to load it up to compile the thing (arrgghh!) So, if some kind soul has this or another (freeware/shareware) PPP package compiled and available, I will, in return for your giving me a copy, put it on a machine that has disk space that is connected to the Net, and post the address here for anyone else who wants it, too. Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: gsutiono@alias.com (Guno Sutiono) Subject: Is Application Kit OpenStep-compliant ? Message-ID: <1994Sep27.161833.325@alias.com> Keywords: Foundation Kit, OpenStep, Application Kit Sender: news@alias.com (News Owner) Organization: Alias Research Inc., Toronto ON Canada Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:18:33 GMT A friend of mine who does not have net access asks me to post the following questions. You may however repond directly to me at gsutiono@alias.com ====================================================== Correct me if I am wrong please. OpenStep seems to be built on something called Foundation Kit (FK). There are lots of nice things come with this kit and it looks very much like the Application Kit (AK). However, I notice that similar methods have different names and different parameters. For example, while the AK provides 'allocFromZone' method, the FK uses 'allocWithZone'. Instead of 'respondsTo' in AK, it uses 'respondsToSelector' in FK. Another example is that the message forwarding method uses different set of parameters. So, does it mean that if I create object based on AK, it would not be reused under OpenStep ? If so, is the next version of AK OpenStep-compliant ? Is the next version of EOF OpenStep- compliant ? How do other develpers think about this issue ? We'll apprepriate any input on this matter. Thanks.
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there any scientific graphing for NextStep? Date: 28 Sep 1994 02:16:42 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <36ajma$99a@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <36advs$e9u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote: : I want to process and plot laboratory data, specifically log-linear plots : with curve fitting. Graph and document templates, push and click : modification of axes, ranges, labels and so forth would be nice. : I have Espionage and GraphRight and have tried the Chartsmith and : GraphBuilder demos. I have also done significant plotting with : mathematica. None of these applications meets the specs I described above Mathematica can plot just about anything you want. Really. You might have to write your own modified Plot function, but it is not too hard. Check out a good book like _Mathematica in Action_ for examples of some really nice plots. : (good curve fitting beyond polynomial fits, especially), and I'm currently : stuck using KaleidaGraph on a Mac. KaleidaGraph is a great app for 2D : plotting, but it isn't available for NextStep. : Can any other scientist with NextStep suggest a good NextStep graphing : solution? : -- Todd Takken : takken@leland.stanford.edu -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: PasteUp and AFS are triffic! Message-ID: <CwsM5F.Bos@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <366rak$stj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:41:38 GMT In article <366rak$stj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes: > In article <3651n3$1q7@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA> foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter > Foster) writes: > > I am using this short story to publicly thank Greg and AFS. They are clearly > committed to providing a great product with great support. > > > > Although this may sound like an ad, I am not connected with AFS except as a > satisfied customer. > > I think they are investing to much time helping you ;-))) I'm still waiting for > an offer for WriteUp. .. so am I! all the mail exchanges with AFS was real friendly, gut I would love to get the app at last! (still working on WriteNow...) --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: To: Omnigroup re: Doom2 Date: 28 Sep 1994 05:35:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <36avbq$cbj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> please put me on your list to buy Doom2 for NeXTSTEP/FIP (if there is such a list) I hear you are still finishing it up, good luck. I hope it ships and runs off CD like the DOS version. Will you be offering the registered v1.2 on the CD too, that would be worth the price of admission... and worth the wait for the sound to be implemented properly. thank you. Gary Lalim -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: better, global, useful keyboard shortcuts (was Re: Mail.app bcc?) Message-ID: <940927.222118.7e6.rusnews.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:21:18 -0600 References: <366q8p$sdc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <3672qu$2lb@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada cc: bug-next@next.com (note followups) Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes: > In addition to Command-7 to access the Bcc field, you can use Command-5 > and 6 to set the To: and Cc: fields, respectively, and Command-8 and 9 > for the user defined fields in Mail 3.3. For those who are beta > testing 3.3, check out Mail's release notes -- there are many more new > shortcuts for doing common operations quickly without having to resort > to the mouse. how many of them are more mnemonic than `Command-7'? I'm back on NS part-time after a few years of other systems where almost everything (if not everything) is accessible, eventually, from the keyboard. not being able to bring down the menus is especially annoying. (obviously, I type faster than I click). please, no more `Command-7'. -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cub x Keyboard Map Problem Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:29:56 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <369ha4$c4m@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo, we have a big problem whit our Cub'X . we bought it to use our FrameMaker Licenses on our Suns. Unfortunately cub X does not support ( while using Frame) the upper charakters of the first keyboard row (Shift 1 (!) Shift 2 (") etc . and further: shift + (*) shift # (') etc. Without this important charakters CubX is quite useless for us. we use the german keyboard setting from next - unmodified (but it is the same with the english or USA keyboard map as well) the Problem happens on both intel and motorola ... on both Frame 3 and Frame4 on Sun os 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.3. What can we do? to fix this would be very important for us. (this bug only appears while using Frame and that is, what we want to do..) I tried to contact Intuitiv Systems by mail and fax, but they does not seem to care about our problems. I am quite annoyed..... please help !!!!!!! Thanks for any help --- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 34109 Kassel Germany E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail)
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 28 Sep 94 10:52:22 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.780749542@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1994Sep27.142522.639@news.uta.edu> You forgot to mention the most interesting part: How much is it? -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 28 Sep 1994 13:02:17 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <36bpgp$39b@news.tamu.edu> References: <1994Sep27.142522.639@news.uta.edu> <next2.780749542@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : You forgot to mention the most interesting part: How much is it? Got some info from lighthouse design itself. All programs have same edu prize if used for personal use Students/Faculty: $25 !! University:$75 ! This is an incredible deal. Their E-mail address is: info@lighthouse.com Blue Skies, HP
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 28 Sep 1994 14:48:17 GMT Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <36bvnh$mem@giga.bga.com> Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are one and the same problems. Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP thought the IP address was something else. Any advice would be appreciated. Bill Tschumy Otherwise bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail and MIME) -- Bill Tschumy Otherwise bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail and MIME)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Check Book application? Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:54:51 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36c3kb$ouo@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> > mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: > > > > Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without > > costing me an arm an a leg? > > Get a copy of Lotus Improv. The tutorial is a checkbook. While Improv was one of the most compelling applications ported to NEXTSTEP, it is no longer available. I would be hesitant to recommend acquiring a product for which there are no upgrades or support. It also had a list price of $499 which (I would think) constitutes at least an arm for an academic user. I still advocate CheckSum by Sirius Solutions ($95 from OpenSource). -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quickbase 4.0 ?? Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:03:07 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36c43r$p0v@potogold.rmii.com> References: <369hob$sju@slowhand.nmb.com> In article <369hob$sju@slowhand.nmb.com> sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall) writes: > Does anyone have handy the company / phone # for the people > who make Quickbase ??? > > (Does anyone have any expirence in using QB? ) As a beta test site for version 4.1PR4, OpenSource is using QuickBase for every phase of business from client contact to inventory control. We are impressed not only with its power and flexibility, but also with its ease-of-use and economy. The folks at SofDesign (info@sdc.mv.com) have been more than accomodating in providing guidance and assistance in creating a relational solution for our specific needs. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 28 Sep 94 15:14:27 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.780765267@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1994Sep27.142522.639@news.uta.edu> <next2.780749542@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <36bpgp$39b@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) writes: >All programs have same edu prize if used for personal use >Students/Faculty: $25 !! All but FrameMaker, I suppose... Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Message-ID: <1994Sep19.081920.9701@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:19:20 GMT In article <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes: > Nextstep sits on top of UNIX. If something goes wrong underneath > NS, it is a lot more complicated to figure out what is wrong and > to fix it THAN other platforms such as, YES, DOS or Windows. > I expereinced both. This assertion is inaccurate, and kind of proves Chris' point. Unix support is easy compared to the voodoo sysadmin required of DOS/Windows systems. I too have experienced both. > What I was saying is that since VERY FEW PALETTES EXISTS for NS, NeXT > should jump start the market and provide MANY more of what they call > kits. KITS for TCP/IP communication control, VIDEO supports, etc... > That is what we need. This may come over well in the non-NeXT groups that aren't aware of the market, but there is a good market for NeXT palettes and kits already. In fact, there are kits that do the exact two examples you quote. Check out Screen Machine, and I have seen a TCP/IP kit at the last two Expos. > Back to my original posting, you need a unix geek to set and maintain > things up. This too is misleading and unsubstantiated. How many non-geeks do you need to reply to this? > Yes, EOF, is fine (great technology) but again it does not address the > scope of functionality I can import in my app. Maybe is provides A WAY > but no substance. That is what I was complaing about. It only addresses the > need of companies with the vision to build and maintain reusable object > repositories. Very few are that visionary. Worse, if I am just starting > I am f... because I can't by the KITs needed for my app. I think this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of EOF. I don't think it is valid to criticise it because it is too good (i.e. provides support for building reusable business objects). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: Signature in NeXTMail? Message-ID: <1994Sep28.023920.16818@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 02:39:20 GMT References: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: >Is there a way to specify a default signature file in NeXTMail? >I haven't been able to find any reference whatsoever in the help. > I just discovered quite by accident that <cmd>-. sucks your signature file into next apps like Edit and Mail, but not Terminal. This is under 3.2 on a Cube. i have no idea how long this has worked. I just mis-keyed in WriteUp and it happened. I thought it was something neat in WriteUp until I experimented a bit. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Experience with OO databases Message-ID: <CwuK22.3Kt@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:51:36 GMT I'm looking for an OO database that will run on NEXTSTEP and integrate more or less well with Objective-C (through a C api or even better, an Objective-C persistency shema). I'm already quite deap in the analysis phase of O2 but the last point that I'm stuck with is the PRICE ! (for all the other points, it really looks like a fantastic OO database). If I had to put my complete enterprise in it, it would be OK but next to Sybase, it's becomming slightly out of reach for our small company. The main reason of needing an OO database is to store TimeSeries in an efficient way. Relational is no good for the model I need, simple objects archiving are not safe or fast in a client-server environment and flat files (e.g. IXStore) are to much of a hassle in maintenance. I would appreciate any comments on experiences ! Thanks a lot, Alexander Lamb MIS Manager Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Is there any scientific graphing for NextStep? In-Reply-To: takken@leland.stanford.edu's message of 28 Sep 1994 00:39:24 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Sep28090543@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <36advs$e9u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:05:43 GMT >>>>> On 28 Sep 1994 00:39:24 GMT, takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) said: > I want to process and plot laboratory data, specifically log-linear > plots with curve fitting. Graph and document templates, push and > click modification of axes, ranges, labels and so forth would be > nice. Try our HippoDraw on the archive sites or from ftp.slac.standford.edu. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there any scientific graphing for NextStep? Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:24:53 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <36c5cl$r45@news.nd.edu> References: <36advs$e9u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken writes > > I want to process and plot laboratory data, specifically log-linear plots > with curve fitting. Graph and document templates, push and click > modification of axes, ranges, labels and so forth would be nice. > > I have Espionage and GraphRight and have tried the Chartsmith and > GraphBuilder demos. I have also done significant plotting with > mathematica. None of these applications meets the specs I described above > (good curve fitting beyond polynomial fits, especially), and I'm currently > stuck using KaleidaGraph on a Mac. KaleidaGraph is a great app for 2D > plotting, but it isn't available for NextStep. > > Can any other scientist with NextStep suggest a good NextStep graphing > solution? > > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu Try SciPlot.app (I have version 3.6, 3.4 is available via anonymous FTP at ftp.cs.orst.edu). I think it can handle everything that you are asking for, and is only $35US shareware. It is a bit slow for quick plots, but great for publication type plotting. Contact the author for the latest release: Author: Michael Wesemann Schillerstr. 73,10627 Berlin, Germany mike@fiasko.rz-berlin.mpg.de -george George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Communications Software Date: 28 Sep 1994 12:17:44 -0500 Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin Message-ID: <36c8fo$ic6@post.its.mcw.edu> Where can I order communications (faxmodem) software? I have heard that NXfax is good. Any comments? Where can I order it? Thanks -- Robert D. Morris, MD, PhD Phone:414 456-8382 PO Box 26509 Fax: 414 266-8501 Medical College of Wisconsin Milwaukee, WI 53226 Internet: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cub x Keyboard Map Problem Date: 28 Sep 1994 17:20:46 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <36c8le$giu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <369ha4$c4m@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> In article <369ha4$c4m@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) writes: > What can we do? I'm not a user of Cub'X, but most X servers allow you to change the keysymbols (an X thang, not a NS thang) in like the .xinit or something or other files. > (this bug only appears while using Frame and that is, what we want to > do..) > I tried to contact Intuitiv Systems by mail and fax, but they does not > seem to care about our problems. Well, if the problem only occurs with Frame, you might be getting mad at the wrong company. :) See what advice the people who make Frame have. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: X for NS/HPPA ? Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:14:10 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8iWOFWS00iUv44UFd_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <36a6nr$o4c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Sep-94 X for NS/HPPA ? by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un > Some weeks ago, this question was here rejected due to NS/HPPA not yet > being released. Now that it is available, are there yet any X packages > for it ? How do they perform compared to the HP/UX X server ? I don't believe that anyone has released a version of X for NS/HP. I expect that the companies that are trying to do the port are having some real problems: X is big, hardware-dependant, and therefore non-trivial to port. It would help if gdb worked correctly on the HP architecture. It would really help if NeXT used the same calling conventions that HP/UX does, instead of doing some crazy combination. It appears that NeXT will sometimes store the arguments for a particular frame starting at FP - 36 (decending from there) and/or at FP + 8 (and ascending from there, which is how the Motorola & Intel platforms behave). For example, on a frame representing a method call, sel_isMapped(FP - 40) and sel_isMapped(FP + 12) generally both return YES and generally are the same selector. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes sel_isMapped() returns false for both, even in a method call. Does anyone understand or have correct documentation on the calling convention NeXT uses on the HP PA-RISC architecture? I have the "PA-RISC Procedure Calling Conventions Reference Manual", but NEXTSTEP/HP _doesn't_ follow the conventions documented therein all of the time. Thanks for any information, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Editing an mbox message Date: 28 Sep 1994 17:07:13 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <36c7s1$f9v@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <1994Sep27.094310.26838@abulafia.in-berlin.de> In article <1994Sep27.094310.26838@abulafia.in-berlin.de> volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes: > Hello, > > In article <367cid$b8@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu > (Richard K. Larson) writes: > > I would like to be able to edit messages in an mbox, but I am > > encountering a problem when there are attachments (images, > > application files, etc.). > > ... > > -Richard Larson > > > > Why do you want to edit the messages? The use of mboxes extends beyond being a simple container for old mail. They are very good for holding a suite of multimedia documents intended for distribution by electronic mail. I teach two courses using a lab of 20 NS486 machines. We distribute course handouts and homework problems (which include files, images, and sometimes sounds) by electronic mail, and receive answers from students by electronic mail. It is very useful to store home work problems and handouts as messages in an mbox. Mboxes can be exchanged like folders between faculty members. It becomes a sort of course package. Once you get an mbox, sending out the materials by mail is a simple matter of forwarding. Of ocurse to use them this way it's nice to be able to edit them too. Actually I learned this use of mboxes from NeXT. In their hardware days, when NeXT representatives gave demonstrations at our campus computer store, the application descriptions, screen dumps, and icons were stored as mail messages in mboxes. To look at what you could do with a NeXT, a person scrolled through the mbox, launching programs whenever they caught your eye. > But if, however, there are references to the external attachments inside > the index.rtf file. If you change the content of the file in Edit.app as > RTF and save it, the references will be lost. You can edit the index.rtf > file in ASCII mode, leave the references where they are and save it, but > this will produce strange output sometimes, because the references have > there character position as an argument. If you manage to change them > accordingly, too, it will be alright (but that is not easy). > Yup, this is what others replied. I understand that it's a hangover from older, cruder versions of .rtf. Too bad. Given the wider value of mboxes, it would be nice to be able to edit them directly as .rtfd files. Are you listening out there Lennart Lovstrand? -Richard Larson
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Editing an mbox message Date: 28 Sep 1994 17:07:24 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <36c7sc$fa1@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <1994Sep27.094310.26838@abulafia.in-berlin.de> In article <1994Sep27.094310.26838@abulafia.in-berlin.de> volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes: > Hello, > > In article <367cid$b8@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu > (Richard K. Larson) writes: > > I would like to be able to edit messages in an mbox, but I am > > encountering a problem when there are attachments (images, > > application files, etc.). > > ... > > -Richard Larson > > > > Why do you want to edit the messages? The use of mboxes extends beyond being a simple container for old mail. They are very good for holding a suite of multimedia documents intended for distribution by electronic mail. I teach two courses using a lab of 20 NS486 machines. We distribute course handouts and homework problems (which include files, images, and sometimes sounds) by electronic mail, and receive answers from students by electronic mail. It is very useful to store home work problems and handouts as messages in an mbox. Mboxes can be exchanged like folders between faculty members. It becomes a sort of course package. Once you get an mbox, sending out the materials by mail is a simple matter of forwarding. Of ocurse to use them this way it's nice to be able to edit them too. Actually I learned this use of mboxes from NeXT. In their hardware days, when NeXT representatives gave demonstrations at our campus computer store, the application descriptions, screen dumps, and icons were stored as mail messages in mboxes. To look at what you could do with a NeXT, a person scrolled through the mbox, launching programs whenever they caught your eye. > But if, however, there are references to the external attachments inside > the index.rtf file. If you change the content of the file in Edit.app as > RTF and save it, the references will be lost. You can edit the index.rtf > file in ASCII mode, leave the references where they are and save it, but > this will produce strange output sometimes, because the references have > there character position as an argument. If you manage to change them > accordingly, too, it will be alright (but that is not easy). > Yup, this is what others replied. I understand that it's a hangover from older, cruder versions of .rtf. Too bad. Given the wider value of mboxes, it would be nice to be able to edit them directly as .rtfd files. Are you listening out there Lennart Lovstrand? -Richard Larson
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Check Book application? Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:43:49 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <36cki5$f0l@news.iastate.edu> References: <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> <36c3kb$ouo@potogold.rmii.com> Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: : In article <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: : > In article <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> : > mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: : > > : > > Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without : > > costing me an arm an a leg? : > : > Get a copy of Lotus Improv. The tutorial is a checkbook. : While Improv was one of the most compelling applications ported to : NEXTSTEP, it is no longer available. I would be hesitant to recommend : acquiring a product for which there are no upgrades or support. It also : had a list price of $499 which (I would think) constitutes at least an arm : for an academic user. I still advocate CheckSum by Sirius Solutions ($95 : from OpenSource). $95 dollar is really a ripped off for student. Consider that Quicken for Windooze only cost ~$40 and CheckSum doesn't seem to have the same set or even close set of features Quicken provided. I would use that $95 and add a few more bucks and buy Mesa or other spreadsheet which provide more flexibility and features. I think Mesa is still $99 for student. Chris : -- : : Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. : <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for : (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions : 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: How to config TranSys for dynamic IP ? Message-ID: <CwuJ8D.Fpy@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:33:49 GMT I am configuring a TranSys on my NeXT at home. I am going to connect my NS3.2(black) to a Unix server with 20 dial-in-lines. Since there are 20 lines, the server will issue an IP to the remote host every time it login. I think I should not set a fix IP address in the file /usr/dialupip/config/config.slip What should I do ? Is there any scripts in PD for that purpose ? Further, I want to connect my Mac to NeXT via a local cheapernet. Is is possible ? How is the setting in the HostManager (or other network config information) ? Mr.Sai-kee Wong
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Communications Software Date: 28 Sep 1994 23:21:33 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <36ctpt$kpp@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <36c8fo$ic6@post.its.mcw.edu> Robert Morris (rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu) wrote: : Where can I order communications (faxmodem) software? I have heard that : NXfax is good. Any comments? Where can I order it? I've heard NXfax is ok, but the list of faxmodems that it supports really sucks. As far as I know, you can't get NextStep fax software that uses that same fax modems that cheap Windows software can. I've posted this question before: Why didn't Next include faxmodems as part of the object-oriented driver kit? Do they plan to? Does anybody know if common fax modems will EVER be supported under NextStep? Reply via mail if you have an answer in the affirmative. -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Critical for Fortune 500 Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:04:27 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) Message-ID: <36d3qs$h1f@news1.shell> References: <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> <1994Sep19.081920.9701@seer.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Sep19.081920.9701@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> wrote: >In article <35i7ud$lhu@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc >Debaud) writes: >> Yes, EOF, is fine (great technology) but again it does not address the >> scope of functionality I can import in my app. Maybe is provides A WAY >> but no substance. That is what I was complaing about. It only addresses >the >> need of companies with the vision to build and maintain reusable object >> repositories. Very few are that visionary. Worse, if I am just starting >> I am f... because I can't by the KITs needed for my app. > >I think this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of EOF. I don't think >it is valid to criticise it because it is too good (i.e. provides support >for building reusable business objects). > Maybe it doesn't show a lack of understanding of EOF, but a lack of understanding of the approach. It seems to me that EOF, like most NS dev tools, kits, palettes, etc. are designed as frameworks for developers, built to be extensible and modifiable by developers who flesh out the framework in creating an app. Windows dev tools are rapidly evolving into higher level constructs in which ther is essentially no code required to creat an app. As a result, NS dev tools are more flexible, but actually require a competent developer to use. Things like VB and PB are LEGO-like block kits that anyone can use (in theory) but are much less flexible. Put simply, Ns developers look at PB and wonder how to extend it to do exactly what they want the way they want, and come away shaking their heads. PB developers look at NS kits and ask themselves where's the block that will do all of this, and all of that, so I don't have to worry about it at all, and come away wondering how anyone can use the things at all. Look at the comment above and you'll see what I mean. The implication is that the PB person above isn't looking for a kit with the functionality he needs, he is looking for a block that *does* what he wants, period. Which type of tool will work better for you depends a lot on the type of app being written, and the skill level and style of the developer. Duane -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Duane Takamine duane@shell.portal.com Island CD Creations [a divison of Madd Hacker Productions] "We work for pizza and beer."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Organization: Madge Networks Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:09:08 GMT Message-ID: <CwuCJ9.DxI@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> <369i83$6rp@potogold.rmii.com> Garrett L. Rice (garrett@opensource.com) wrote: : BTW, I am outside of AT&T and read your post on the net. You are now : nationwide! *sigh*. Aren't Americans ignorant? The concept that the USA isn't actually the entire world seems much to difficult for most of them to grasp. They'll be calling their sports national championships "World Championships" next - oops, they already do. But at least they have a sense of humour (I hope)... ----------------------- All present and future standard disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: Re: Communications Software Message-ID: <CwvGCB.2qC@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida References: <36c8fo$ic6@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 03:28:59 GMT In article <36c8fo$ic6@post.its.mcw.edu>, Robert Morris <rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu> wrote: | Where can I order communications (faxmodem) software? I have heard that | NXfax is good. Any comments? Where can I order it? | NXFax is EXCELLENT! Great piece of software by Black & White Software. They can be reached by e-mail at "sales@bandw.com". The latest version of their software is 1.04. You can obtain a demo by anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.orst.com under software/NeXT/demos/comm/NXFax1.04.tar Later, --Felix
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Message-ID: <bchin.780769055@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> <SWIET.94Sep25134412@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> <bchin.780632340@news.andi.org> Distribution: inet Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:17:35 GMT bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: > Many PC xbench scores get high >scores for being about to do that. Wow... I was up a little late. I meant to say, many PC X11 implementations get high xbench scores by taking advantage of the built in graphics accelerations in today's SVGA video cards. Due to the architecture of NEXTSTEP's DPS and the interceptor, it is extremely difficult for NEXTSTEP programs to take advantage of those accelerations. For NEXTSTEP's DPS, those accelerations are too simplistic anyways. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: lehar@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SQL-Database Date: 29 Sep 1994 10:03:21 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Distribution: world Message-ID: <36e3d9$279@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> I am looking for a SQL-Database running native on NEXTSTEP for Intel. I don need a fancy User Interface. Thanks for your help. Alfred please write to: lehar@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Subject: qi on NextStep Message-ID: <1994Sep29.110959.15777@unix.brighton.ac.uk> Sender: news@unix.brighton.ac.uk Organization: University of Brighton, UK Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 11:09:59 GMT Has anyone compiled the CSO phone/address server (qi) for NextStep (2.1 or 3.0)? It supposedly configures for NS2.1 but when I tried it, there was a missing header file (unistd.h). I tried bluffing it by installing a blank file with that name in the include path; compiled ok but failed on linking due to a missing symbol, _strdup. I can't find that function on either 2.1 or 3.0 systems. Have I lost something, or is there an equivalent function? Thanks for any info. -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v ymbol, _strdup. I can't find that function on either 2.1 or 3.0 systems. Have I lost something, or is there an
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Communications Software Date: 29 Sep 1994 08:17:55 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409291321.AA02742@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> > >I've heard NXfax is ok, but the list of faxmodems that it supports >really sucks. As far as I know, you can't get NextStep fax software >that uses that same fax modems that cheap Windows software can. This is a list from the help of NXFax 1.04. Sorry for the terrible formatting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This release of NXFax has been tested with the following modems: Features* Fax Modem dr aa speed Boca 14.4 . X 14400 Intel 144/144E . . 14400 MultiTech MT1432BA . X 14400 Neuron 1414 with ZyXEL ROM upgrade X X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXMT . X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXPKT . X 14400 Practical Peripherals FXSA . X 14400 SupraFAX 14.4 v32.bis . X 14400 Telebit T3000 with fax option . . 9600 Telebit WorldBlazer with fax option . . 9600 Zoom VFX . X 14400 ZyXEL U1496E X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496E Plus X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496 X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496 Plus X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496B (internal) X X 14400 ZyXEL U1496B Plus (internal) X X 14400 dr ± distinctive ring aa ± adaptive answering * Features listed supported as of this writing Be sure your modem has up-to-date EPROMs installed. For best results, you must have EPROMs with a version number equal to or higher than those shown below: Boca 14.4 1.300 Intel 144/144E 1.7 MultiTech MT1432BA 1.10 Neuron 1414 with ZyXEL ROM upgrade 5.00 Practical Peripherals FXMT 2.17 Practical Peripherals FXPPM 2.17 Practical Peripherals FXSA 2.17 SupraFAX 1.8 Telebit WorldBlazer, T3000 7.01 Zoom VFX 2.03 ZyXEL (any model) 5.00 ¬There may be other models that work with NXFax, especially those that use the Rockwell chip set, but only those listed above have been fully tested. As testing continues, other modems will be added to the list. If you try NXFax with another modem, please feel free to tell us about your experience. NXFax works well and the support from B&W has been very good. To me it appears that it supports the most popular modems in use today. If yours is a class 2 fax modem there is probably a good chance that NXFax will work with it. Trey
From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Soundworks the best Sound-Ediding and Mix Software ?-( Date: 29 Sep 1994 17:13:10 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <36esj6$mo5@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Keywords: Sound We have Soundworks 3.0 for a year: It is slow (since it always swaps) It is buggy (A crash every 2 hours) or it hangs on forever. Sometimes you need 10 Min to save a 10sec-Soundfile There where no responses to questions or bug reports from the developer (even it has a Bugreport panel) and there were no updates for a long time. But I like the programs features (if they work). IS THERE A BETTER SOUND-Editing Software with Mix-Possibilities and Some Effects ?? - We need it for Postproduction and so. mfg Winfried Ritsch DI Winfried Ritsch - ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at - NeXTMail is ok ================================================= | INSTITUT FUER ELEKTRONISCHE MUSIK | | University of Music and Dramatic Art | | Jakoministrasse 3-5, A-8010 Graz - AUSTRIA | | Tel. ++43-316-389-7211, Fax.++43-316-389-7215 | =================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: Signature in NeXTMail? Message-ID: <davisreCwvMBs.AM9@netcom.com> Organization: independent References: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <1994Sep28.023920.16818@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 05:38:15 GMT Bob Peirce #305 <rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > >I just discovered quite by accident that <cmd>-. sucks your signature >file into next apps like Edit and Mail, but not Terminal. This is under >3.2 on a Cube. i have no idea how long this has worked. I just mis-keyed >in WriteUp and it happened. I thought it was something neat in WriteUp >until I experimented a bit. > Are you sure you're not using TickleServices? "Insert Signature" is one of the services distributed with TS, and it's bound to Command-period. Rob -- Robert Davis (davisre@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP: No ImageViewer, no OmniFilter, what to use ? Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:01:47 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <36eveb$pks@transfer.stratus.com> References: <CwwDs0.HAz@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski writes > NS/HP owners, > > what do you use since OmniFilter and ImageViewer isn't available yet ?? The latest version of OmniImageFilter and OmniImage appear to be triple-MAB (i.e., include HP). -- I invented skydiving in 1989! Howard Ship hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame."
From: arnouilj@cedre.esiee.fr ( Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP: No ImageViewer, no OmniFilter, what to use ? Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:10:44 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <36evv4$dn1@srv5.esiee.fr> References: <CwwDs0.HAz@prz.tu-berlin.de> In article <CwwDs0.HAz@prz.tu-berlin.de> rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) writes: > NS/HP owners, > > what do you use since OmniFilter and ImageViewer isn't available yet ?? You missed some announcement !!! (Does there has be one ??) OmniFilter, OmniImage 3.0.1 AND OmniWeb 0.7.5 ARE TRI-fat binaries !!! They works pretty well and fast on my cute Gecko. -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 29 Sep 1994 17:52:53 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <36eutl$bbj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Apologies if this has been recently covered here, but... Anybody know how to excise those pesky HPPA executables? I'm running 3.2. -- Brent Swekla "Sleep furiously." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca PGP public key available on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Subject: HP: No ImageViewer, no OmniFilter, what to use ? Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <CwwDs0.HAz@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:31:10 GMT Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin NS/HP owners, what do you use since OmniFilter and ImageViewer isn't available yet ?? Regards Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <indesign!indesign!paul@uunet.uu.net> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:56:51 -0400 From: Paul Truelson <indesign!paul@uunet.uu.net> Message-ID: <9409291756.AA03097@indesign.indesign.com> Subject: re: Communications Software > Where can I order communications (faxmodem) software? I have heard that > NXfax is good. Any comments? Where can I order it? Talk to Rick Damon at Black & White Software. Phone: 1-802-496-8500 Fax: 1-802-496-5112 e-mail: nxfax@bandw.com I have had the software (and a Zycel U-1496E) for 6 months. Absolutely no problems, bugs or crashes! Paul Truelson (paul@indesign.com) Infinite Design, Cleveland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: NewsGrazer and CPU usage? Message-ID: <1994Sep29.161731.15722@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:17:31 GMT Why does NewsGrazer always seem to be using some of my CPU? ps -xav yields PID TT STAT TIME SL RE PAGEIN VSIZE RSIZE LIM TSIZ TRS %CPU %MEM COMMAND 313 ? S 564:51 0 0 0 4.51M 1.79M 0 0K 0 5.6 7.5 NewsGraz I have Preferences->Configuration->Check new news frequency set to 32 minutes... I had hoped this would eliminate continuous activity. What's going on? Any solutions? Thanks, David -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David J. Ferrero 203-659-4257 tel NEXTSTEP Registered Developer 203-657-3542 fax Zion Software & Consulting david@zion.com email
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Communications Software Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:56:36 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <36f65k$fde@news.iastate.edu> References: <9409291321.AA02742@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> Trey McClendon (trey@hsv.tybrin.com) wrote: : > : >I've heard NXfax is ok, but the list of faxmodems that it supports : >really sucks. As far as I know, you can't get NextStep fax software : >that uses that same fax modems that cheap Windows software can. : This is a list from the help of NXFax 1.04. Sorry for the terrible formatting. : ---------------------------------------------------------------------- : This release of NXFax has been tested with the following modems: It's strange that NXFax doesn't support Hayes modem. Anybody knows why? : Features* Fax : Modem dr aa speed : Boca 14.4 . X 14400 : Intel 144/144E . . 14400 [modem list shrinked...] : ZyXEL U1496B (internal) X X 14400 : ZyXEL U1496B Plus (internal) X X 14400 :
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: Manabu Tokunaga <pec@netcom.com> Subject: Re: X in NEXTSTEP (Cub'X & co-Xist), problems, impressions, etc. Message-ID: <netnewsCwvp0A.Jt6@netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: Pacific Electronic Connection References: <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 06:36:09 GMT In article <35odav$hs0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Karl Robert Pfleger, kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU writes: > - This is the most annoying problem I've found: Even though the > documentation claims that Cub'X will support any of the keyboard > mappings that can be selected from Preferences.app, the caps-lock key on > my standard PC keyboard does not correct act as teh control key when > using the NextUSA keyboard map (which should make caps-lock control, and > control alternate, and use command-shift for caps-lock, like a NeXT > keyboard). Furthermore, this problem cannot be alleviated by using > xmodmap to remap the signal that the caps-lock key sends in this mode > because it does not appear to generate any X event at all when depressed > or released. (I determined this with the program xev.) > Karl: Thank you very much for the interesting post. Several weeks ago, I've installed Cub'X Windows and in most parts it works OK. I would like to add to this that, at least in our primarily Sun OS 4.1.3 environment, FrameMaker 4.0 does not work well with the Cub'X client. I have sent E-mail question to Intuitive Systems twice but so far I have never received a reply about this. The problem is that once in FrameMaker 4.0 runnning as a client on a Sun, suddendly keyboard (probably) mapping changes so that most of the shfited characters such as "~!@#$%^&*()_+|?>< cannot be typed. I've run eXodus Macintosh R5 server and it does not exhibit such behavior. Any other times such as running Xterm or Emacs would not cause this problem. If anybody have experienced this and know of the fix, that would, of course, be very helpful to me. Manabu Tokunaga Daytime: CEMAX, Inc. Fremont, CA. (510) 770-8612 X393 <manabu@cemax.com> NeXTMail OK Evening: <pec@netcom.com>
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What to do about WriteNow documents and Improv spreadsheets Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:13:07 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36fal3$a1u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Sep28.145952.647@Princeton.EDU> In article <1994Sep28.145952.647@Princeton.EDU> serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: > We're going to be converting our stock of Motorola Nexts to > Intel, and I've been asked to come up with a way to deal > with our WriteNow documents and Improv spreadhseets. > Anybody know if there's a way to convert these into some > format that currently supported products can handle (and NOT > loose all of the formatting information)? PasteUp accepts WriteNow formatted text. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: garlick@ns.scruz.net (Tim Garlick -- Santa Cruz Community Internet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Need a POP mail reader for NeXTstep Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:41:52 GMT Organization: Scruz-Net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <36fcb0$3nk@nic.scruz.net> One of our users is running morningstar software to connect to us via part-time slip. We provide a POPmail account for him, but his software does not support POP. Does anyone have a suggestion for a POPmail client that he can use to collect his mail with? Please reply to me at garlick@scruz.net, as I do not read these groups. Thanks, -Tim Garlick. Scruz-Net admin@scruz.net
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 29 Sep 1994 00:38:22 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36dqte$84e@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <369ppo$f1i@zip.eecs.umich.edu> mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) writes: >I've been using FrameMaker 3.0 on NS 3.2 (Motorola) for the last half >year. As a matter of fact, I just finished writing a technical report >yesterday. I saw no change in performance when I upgraded from NS 3.1. The original poster was talking about upgrading to FrameMaker 3.2, not NEXTSTEP 3.2. -Wil -Wil
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy Date: 29 Sep 1994 00:42:38 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <36dr5e$868@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Sep27.140145.404@ciba-geigy.ch> beyret@chbs.ciba.com (Tim Eyres) writes: >Does anybody know of a way to stick a proxy >server into OmniWeb in the same way as can be >done with Mosaic, ie the proxy definitions >in a shell script ? OmniWeb 0.7.5 has a Preferences panel that allows you to specify all kinds off cool proxy info. Go wild! http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.app.tar.gz -Wil
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Frame upgrade Date: 29 Sep 1994 00:43:24 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36dr6s$86u@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <10684@cg-atla.UUCP> greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) writes: >Being a user of black hardwre, does this buy me anything? It buys you speed and a bunch of bug fixes. It buys you continuous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jvega@cs.uno.edu (vega) Subject: Object Design/Modeler tool Message-ID: <1994Sep29.225219.1307@cs.uno.edu> Organization: Smart Object Technologies, Inc. Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 22:52:19 GMT I am looking for an object oriented analysis and design tool similar to Paradigm PLUS (that was for Windoze, I think..). Basically, what I'm looking for is a tool that can model objects and their relationships graphically. Hopefully, it would be able to parse header files to produce graphical ER models, and even the other way around, e.g. manipulate an ER editor graphically, then IT produces the headers. All around a good design tool, right? By ER I mean entity-relationship models...like in software engineering. Am I looking for a fabled fountain of youth? Is there such a beast? Thanks in advance for any help or redirection. --- -- -- Jeff Vega Smart Object Technologies, Inc. (NeXTMail YES!) e-mail: jeff@smobject.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: Is there any scientific graphing for NextStep? Message-ID: <Sep29.230505.57884@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:05:05 GMT References: <36ajma$99a@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <36ajma$99a@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: > Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote: > > : I want to process and plot laboratory data, specifically log-linear > : plots > : with curve fitting. Graph and document templates, push and click > : modification of axes, ranges, labels and so forth would be nice. > > : I have Espionage and GraphRight and have tried the Chartsmith and > : GraphBuilder demos. I have also done significant plotting with > : mathematica. None of these applications meets the specs I described > : above > > Mathematica can plot just about anything you want. Really. You might > have to write your own modified Plot function, but it is not too hard. > Check out a good book like _Mathematica in Action_ for examples of some > really nice plots. I concur. I wrote some custom plots for spindle diagrams on a geologic time scale. I couldn't have done it with anything else (unless I wanted to write an application from scratch, or drawn it by hand). Combine with "ps2ai" to convert from EPS to Adobe Illustrator format, and you can even edit the resulting plot to add embellishments. Mathematica may not be as pleasant to use as custom graphing programs, but it can theoretically do anything with a bit of programming. > > : (good curve fitting beyond polynomial fits, especially), and I'm > : currently stuck using KaleidaGraph on a Mac. KaleidaGraph is a great > : app for 2D plotting, but it isn't available for NextStep. > > : Can any other scientist with NextStep suggest a good NextStep graphing > : solution? > .. -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 30 Sep 1994 01:44:18 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <36fqhi$rji@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <36eutl$bbj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) writes: >Apologies if this has been recently covered here, but... >Anybody know how to excise those pesky HPPA executables? I'm running 3.2. 'man lipo' -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Mail.app bcc? Message-ID: <1994Sep30.015211.28821@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <364f7p$ao@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 01:52:11 GMT In article <364f7p$ao@potogold.rmii.com> moran@alpine.lance.colostate.edu (Matthew Moran) writes: >In article <1994Sep25.155738.10520@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy >Brockbank) writes: >> Is this documented anywhere? It's not on the main menu, and I can't >> remember seeing it before. >> - db > >Actually, look under the menu: "Tools -> Send Options... O" >It's been there as long as I can remember... 0.9b?? You're absolutely right. I don't know how I could be more stupid. Sigh. Sometimes, you just can't help falling asleep at the wheel. - db -- "Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie." -- The Wedding Present
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 30 Sep 1994 03:41:56 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <36g1e4$9pm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <next2.780765267@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <next2.780765267@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: > schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) writes: > > >All programs have same edu prize if used for personal use > >Students/Faculty: $25 !! > > All but FrameMaker, I suppose... > > Markus. > Correct, FrameMaker is not included in this deal. However, the offer is something like incredible. After using it for a couple of years, I'm *still* impressed with Diagram.app. It's so simple, so easy to learn and use, yet you can do some truly wonderful stuff with it. Above any other .app, this one (for me) shows what a good developer can do in the NeXTSTEP environment. To get a program of this quality for $25 is a gift, and a very, very nice one. -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 30 Sep 1994 04:11:13 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <36g351$2ci@sundog.tiac.net> References: <36eutl$bbj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <36fqhi$rji@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <36fqhi$rji@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes: >swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) writes: > >>Apologies if this has been recently covered here, but... > >>Anybody know how to excise those pesky HPPA executables? I'm running 3.2. > >'man lipo' You would think that, but in this case lipo is a no-go. The 3.2 MAB tools for Intel/NeXT all pretty much barf their guts out on anything with HPPA in it. Sad but true. You probably want to check out plipo (portable lipo) on the archives, this can extract HPPA, and runs on anything you can compile it on. It's not a full lipo, but will do the extraction thang. erf, -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Subject: Net Hack Message-ID: <1994Sep30.052105.11504@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 05:21:05 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Someone posted a couple of weeks ago that they put a NEXTSTEP version of nethack on an ftp site. Could someone please tell me where it is? Thanks, -Mont
From: ddan@au.stratus.com (Dan Danz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: qi on NextStep Date: 30 Sep 1994 06:44:43 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <36gc4r$534@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1994Sep29.110959.15777@unix.brighton.ac.uk> In article <1994Sep29.110959.15777@unix.brighton.ac.uk> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes: > Has anyone compiled the CSO phone/address server (qi) for NextStep > (2.1 or 3.0)? > > It supposedly configures for NS2.1 but when I tried it, there was > a missing header file (unistd.h). > > I tried bluffing it by installing a blank file with that name in > the include path; compiled ok but failed on linking due to a missing > symbol, _strdup. I can't find that function on either 2.1 or 3.0 > systems. Have I lost something, or is there an equivalent function? > Write your own replacement. All strdup does is duplicate its string argument in a malloc'd area, and return the pointer to the new area. Something like this: #include <warning/untested_code.h> #include <string.h> char *strdup(char *s1) { char *s2; if (s1) { s2 = (char *) malloc(strlen(s1)+1); return (strcpy(s2,s1)) } } return s1; /* NULL pointer */ } Or something like that. #include <std_disclaimer.h> -- L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) NeXT Mail: ddan@au.stratus.com Senior Technical Consultant VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com Asia Pacific Support Center Telephone: +61 (2) 954-0655 Stratus Computer Pty Ltd Fax: +61 (2) 954-0741 99 Walker St. North Sydney 2060 NSW Australia
From: acherman@iam.unibe.ch (Franz Achermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gcc/libg++ 2.6.0 - help! Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:34:44 GMT Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland Sender: acherman@asterix (Franz Achermann) Distribution: world Message-ID: <36gpk4$p72@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <1994Sep17.163315.7178@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Hi, for a few I'm trying to make gcc2.60 on the Next: On m68k-next-ns3: all seems to work fine (except a minor warning about excess struct elements when INCLUDE_DIR is read from config.nextstep.h, where the struct has 3 elements, but in protoize.c:270 there are only 2 expected. I suppose, the 3th one is throuwn away gently. in cccp.c, 3 elements are defined for the same struct.) Well, all seem right, make compare doesn't mention any problems but first use of gcc compiling C++ doesn't work. Try to compile these 4 lines: (found in g++lib/libio/dummy.C) struct filebuf { virtual int foo(); }; filebuf ff; Do not ask me, what is wrong, but gcc stops with these errors: dummy.C:3: warning: duplicate `volatile' dummy.C:3: constructors cannot be declared `volatile' dummy.C:3: warning: duplicate `volatile' dummy.C:3: constructors cannot be declared `volatil dummy.C:3: confused by earlier errors, bailing out Any other C++ I found, including the origial g++ on the NeXT compiles dummy.C without problems. On i486-next ... seem even not to compile Is anybody who has a running gcc2.6 on the NeXT ? Thanks for all hints. Franz Achermann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: What to do about WriteNow documents and Improv spreadsheets Message-ID: <1994Sep28.145952.647@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Keywords: WriteNow Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Distribution: unlimited Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:59:52 GMT We're going to be converting our stock of Motorola Nexts to Intel, and I've been asked to come up with a way to deal with our WriteNow documents and Improv spreadhseets. Anybody know if there's a way to convert these into some format that currently supported products can handle (and NOT loose all of the formatting information)? Thanks, Serge J. Goldstein Princeton University CIT
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software From: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould) Subject: Compiling gopherd 2.016 with WAIS on NeXT (black) Message-ID: <Cwy50I.J2G@liverpool.ac.uk> Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System) Organization: The University of Liverpool Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:17:05 GMT Can anyone give me some pointers on successfully compiling the 2.016 gopher server with WAIS indexing on an 040 Cube? Compiling the server without WAIS indexing works OK, but I can't compile the freeWAIS-0.3 distribution properly, and this kills the gopher compilation. Should anyone have some binaries they could give me, I'd be more than grateful :-) Thanks in advance, Paul -- Paul Gould, Network Support Officer Tel: +44 (0)51-794 5118 CTI Centre for Biology, Donnan Laboratories Fax: +44 (0)51-794 4401 University of Liverpool, PO Box 147 email: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk Liverpool L69 3BX, UK
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:57:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <36h90f$njg@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <36g1e4$9pm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Thanks to the original poster for pointing out this great software bargain. My budget for software is very limited, but $25 per program was too good a deal to pass up---I bought all seven programs!---Concurrence 2.0, Diagram! 2.1, TaskMaster 1.5, WetPaint 1.5, VarioData 1.0, Quantrix 1.0, ParaSheet. (The last three of these are due later this year.) I have no connection with Lighthouse Design---I just know a good thing when I see it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Compiling gopherd 2.016 with WAIS on NeXT (black) Date: 30 Sep 1994 15:51:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <36hc5u$e33@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <Cwy4w1.J0K@liverpool.ac.uk> In article <Cwy4w1.J0K@liverpool.ac.uk> P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould) writes: > Can anyone give me some pointers on successfully compiling the 2.016 gopher > server with WAIS indexing on an 040 Cube? Compiling the server without WAIS > indexing works OK, but I can't compile the freeWAIS-0.3 distribution > properly, and this kills the gopher compilation. > > Should anyone have some binaries they could give me, I'd be more than > grateful :-) Here's the Makefile for freeWAIS-0.202. It might give you a running start. Below are the changes for freeWAIS-0.202: Diff 1------------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a diff between the top level Makefile and the version I used, named Makefile.NeXT. There are three significant changes: setting the variable TOP; adding two compiler flags for next; and deleting the material for xwais. I am not absolutely sure I need both compiler flags, but they don't seem to hurt. #diff Makefile Makefile.NeXT 51c51 < #TOP:sh = pwd --- > TOP = /usr/local/wais 53,54c53,54 < comment-me: < @echo You must set "\$$(TOP)" to point to the freeWAIS src directory --- > #comment-me: > # @echo You must set "\$$(TOP)" to point to the freeWAIS src directory 96c96 < CFLAGS = -g -I$(SUPDIR) -DSECURE_SERVER -DRELEVANCE_FEEDBACK -DUSG -DBOOLEANS -DPARTIALWORD -DLITERAL --- > CFLAGS = -g -I$(SUPDIR) -DSECURE_SERVER -DRELEVANCE_FEEDBACK -DUSG -DBOOLEANS -DPARTIALWORD -DLITERAL -DNEXT -D_NEXT_SOURCE 134,135c134,135 < x:: < cd x; (env TOP=$(TOP) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" MAKE="$(MAKE)" /makex.sh) --- > # x:: > # cd x; (env TOP=$(TOP) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" MAKE="$(MAKE)" /makex.sh) Diff 2------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the file lib/scandir.c, there is a conflict in the definition of the external function between the scandir.c file and /usr/include/bsd/sys/dir.h. The dir.h file adds a const to the first parameter. I changed scandir.c to be consistent with dir.h. # diff ./lib/scandir.c ./lib/scandir.c.NeXT 26c26 < char *name; --- > const char *name; Diff 3------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the make file in the lib subdirectory, I needed to manually change the path to the file types.h so it could be found on the NeXT. # diff ./lib/Makefile ./lib/Makefile.NeXT 85c85 < alphasort.o: /usr/include/sys/types.h pdftw.h --- > alphasort.o: /usr/include/bsd/sys/types.h pdftw.h --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What to do about WriteNow documents and Improv spreadsheets Date: 30 Sep 1994 17:42:29 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36him5$du5@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36fal3$a1u@nntp.Stanford.EDU> :In article <1994Sep28.145952.647@Princeton.EDU> :serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: : :> We're going to be converting our stock of Motorola Nexts to :> Intel, and I've been asked to come up with a way to deal :> with our WriteNow documents and Improv spreadhseets. :> Anybody know if there's a way to convert these into some :> format that currently supported products can handle (and NOT :> loose all of the formatting information)? There are two solutions to your problem. Buying New Products: The first involves a little patience. Lighthouse Design's Quantrix Spreadsheet is a remarkeable product that will support Imrpov files and offers virtually every feature Improv has (and some it doesn't) including a programmable API, etc. Quantrix will be available in a few months, but looked solid even at Expo. The list on it is $895. Lighthouse is notoriously good to EDU customers, so I imagine you can do a conversion pretty cheap. WriteUp and OpenWrite both support WriteNow files. WriteUp from AFS is available now (It supports RTF, RTFD, and WriteNow currently with planned support for MS-Word, WordPerfect and more...). OpenWrite from Xanthus is in beta now (It has planned support for MS-Word, AmiPro, WordPerfect, WriteNow, and more...). OpenSource, of course, carries or will carry all of these applications. NXHost Your Current Apps: Another solution is to NXHost WriteNow and Lotus Improv from NeXT hardware and display it on Intel. This is useful for non-transferrable files and/or special, custom uses of these specific applications. Re: Intel Hardware If you are going to intel and want the comfort of good hardware, I recommend that you check out the Canon Object.Stations. They are as close as you are ever going to get to NEXTstation with an intel chip. Its truly an intel workstation. We offer EDU pricing on these systems and volume discounts too! Sincerely, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions are my own
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 30 Sep 1994 17:36:15 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36hiaf$qm3@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Hello, netland! I am considering upgrading our NeXT systems (black hardware) from NS3.0 to NS3.2 this weekend, and am looking for any pitfalls to avoid along the way. Any software disappear during the upgrade? Any upgrade bugs? Anything to be particularly careful of? Thanks in advance for any warnings, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: hbott@esu.edu (Howard B Ott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a Drag & Drop Ftp program? Ksh? Date: 30 Sep 1994 19:15:21 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <36ho49$fgl@jake.esu.edu> Is there a free drag and drop ftp program for NSI? How about alternate shells? like ksh? -- Berk Ott
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Communications Software Date: 30 Sep 1994 21:45:43 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36i0u7$um@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36f65k$fde@news.iastate.edu> In article <36f65k$fde@news.iastate.edu> chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: :It's strange that NXFax doesn't support Hayes modem. Anybody knows why? My understanding is that NXFax and NEXTSTEP both require Level 2 FAX modem support, which Hayes modems for the most part do not support. ------ Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source for NEXTSTEP Software & Hardware" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions are my own
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Fortran for NEXTSTEP on HP PA-RISC Date: 30 Sep 1994 21:57:47 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <36i1kr$llv@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: Fortran, NAG, HP Hello, Over the last few months, I have collected names of people interested in seeing FORTRAN ported to NEXTSTEP for the HP PA-RISC machines. I gathered 25 names, with an estimate of 40-50 orders now and another 25 orders in the next year or so. The only company that seemed interested was Absoft, but they wanted commitments for 200 orders. Today I spoke to someone at NAG (the Numerical Algorithms Group). They ported FORTRAN to NEXTSTEP for black hardware. The woman with whom I spoke said that NAG might be convinced to port their FORTRAN compiler (and possibly their FORTRAN libraries as well) to NS/HP if there was enough interest to generate $10,000 of income. That would only be 10 orders at $1000 each, which a far cry better than the 200 orders that Absoft wanted. I don't know what the price will be. I think the price for black hardware was $1,900. While that sounds a little high, it would only take 5 or 6 orders to reach the $10,000 ballpark. Perhaps if they get requests for lots of orders (say 50-100), they might sell it much cheaper, but nobody said this, it's just me speculating. Anyway, if you have any interest at all in seeing FORTRAN ported to NEXTSTEP on the HP, please write and/or call the following person at NAG: Sheila Caswell caswell@nag.com 708-971-2337 (ext. 206) and help her to convince her boss to take on this project. She mentioned that they might be able to finish this as soon as December. Thanks for your help. Bye, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rmj@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones) Subject: OmniWeb & No Pictures Message-ID: <Cwyuyw.BE4@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 23:37:44 GMT Dear Users, I can no longer view pictures with OmniWeb (i.e a box with a line through it is presented). Any ideas as to why this has occurred & how I may reattach pictures? -- Yours, Roger (rmj@llewelyn.slac.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Message-ID: <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <36bvnh$mem@giga.bga.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 23:14:02 GMT Bill Tschumy writes > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also > like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are > one and the same problems. > > Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the > IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP > thought the IP address was something else. > > Any advice would be appreciated. Yeah, they're one in the same problem - i.e. they have nothing to do with SLIP. Think of your SLIP connection as if it were that black coax wire running between two machines on your network. Now solve the NXHost problem. Hint: check your public window server settings. As far as DO is concerned: it works. I run NXHost and connect DO across SLIP almost every day. I have done NOTHING special to get DO to work, and only set up my public window server to get NXHost to work. Any other problems you may have can be addressed by doing network routing diagnostics. If your routing isn't working right, you'll have problems with more than just NXHost and DO. Brad. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Digital Librarian display problem Message-ID: <1994Sep29.135441.18717@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:54:41 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I am running NS3.2 on a cube. Here's the deal. Normally, when I click on a selection in DL it brings up its internal display screen with the find and search icons. However, if the file has a number anywhere in it DL opens Edit.app and displays the file in an Edit window. There is an exception to this. If the number is big enough it works properly. Some specifics: I break out the listing from sonata into sub-files for each directory. Something like the 3.0/src directory listing would go into a file called 3.0=src. If something I am searching for is in that directory, the file comes up in Edit. Files without small numbers come up in the DL display. I catalog my recordings by number. LPs are in the 0000 series and CDs in the 2000 series. I use the ixbuild -g flag to generate descriptions from the first line of the file. This produces an entry like 00005: Style: Jazz Title: Brown, Clifford, Clifford ... the 0005: is bold. Selections from these lists come up in the DL viewer. What I wuold like to know is what magic will tell DL that files with small numbers are okay to bring up in a DL viewer? -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) Subject: Re: sgml and html Message-ID: <1994Oct1.035654.10876@olaf.wellesley.edu> Sender: news@olaf.wellesley.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Wellesley College References: <367nsh$69s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:56:54 GMT indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: : fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) writes: : : >Hi, : : >Is there a FAQ document or book on sgml and html? : : If you can use OmniWeb, NCSA's "Beginnner's Guide to HTML" and "HMTL Quick : Reference can be found at : http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/Mosaic/MetaIndex.html : : If not, I can NeXTMail you my copies... : : : -- : Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio : (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others : indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 : "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous Check out comp.text.sgml. A friend recently mailed me a copy of their FAQ file, which I can try to find and forward to you. Anybody know if a SGML capable editor for NEXTSTEP is being worked on or planned by anyone? ========================================================================= Carl Jones Internet: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu Systems Librarian Voice: (617) 283-2172 Margaret Clapp Library Fax: (617) 283-3640 Wellesley College [No NeXT Mail Please] Wellesley, MA 02181 =========================================================================
From: dbora@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail over slip connection Date: 1 Oct 1994 04:52:47 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <36ipuv$j59@news.acns.nwu.edu> I was wondering if anyone out there has the capability to send mail from a next that is slipped up. I have tried with zero success. any suggestiong
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: gzip for Workspace Manager Message-ID: <rbzCwy5D0.G6A@netcom.com> Keywords: workspace manager gzip gunzip compress uncompress next Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:24:36 GMT I am looking for an application (inspector, bundle, etc...) that would allow me to handle GNU zipped (.gz) files from the Workspace Manager just like I handle .Z and .compressed files. Currently when I select a .Z file, a special icon is displayed. I can double-click on the icon and then click to uncompress the file. With a .compressed file, a special icon is also displayed. I can double-click on the icon and then click to uncompress the file. With a .gz file, I get the default edit document icon. If I double-click on the icon, it just brings the document up in edit (as I would expect it to). If someone could NeXTMail it to me or point me to an ftp site, it would be appreciated. -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail over slip connection Date: 1 Oct 1994 06:15:47 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <36iuqj$9u6@core.symnet.net> References: <36ipuv$j59@news.acns.nwu.edu> Don Bora writes > I was wondering if anyone out there has the capability > to send mail from a next that is slipped up. It should work fine. It did for me. A SLIP connection is no different from an ethernet connection. > I have tried with zero success. any suggestiong Did the mail bounce? Did you get an error message? What happened when you tried it? Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@legion.apana.org.au (David Green) Subject: Re: Communications Software Message-ID: <Cwz1H5.48E@legion.apana.org.au> Approved-By: No one! Organization: Sargood Manor References: <9409291321.AA02742@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> <36f65k$fde@news.iastate.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 01:58:16 GMT In <36f65k$fde@news.iastate.edu> chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: >It's strange that NXFax doesn't support Hayes modem. Anybody knows why? NXFax 1.04 will work with any - repeat ANY - Class 2 faxmodem. They have only tested it with those listed in the docs. I have an Australian designed and built modem and it works just fine! NXFax can be downloaded from the archive sites and used in demo mode without a licence. This will restrict you to single page outgoing and no incoming. If you like it and want the full system, there is a builtin licence-request option. They will send you a licence key which you enter into the registration panel and then the full package becomes available. I use it on white h/w with the Mux serial driver at 19k2 and have no problems whatsoever. -- David Green | Tel: +61 3 827-5828 | david@legion.apana.org.au Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 827-5876 | (NeXTMail accepted) PGP key from: pgp-key@su.edu.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vadim@balbes.ots.utexas.edu (Vadim Kaplunovsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 1 Oct 1994 07:50:20 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <36j4bs$4tj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> In article <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: > Bill Tschumy writes > > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also > > like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are > > one and the same problems. > > > > Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the > > IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP > > thought the IP address was something else. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > Yeah, they're one in the same problem - i.e. they have nothing to do with > SLIP. Think of your SLIP connection as if it were that black coax wire > running between two machines on your network. Now solve the NXHost problem. > Hint: check your public window server settings. As far as DO is concerned: it > works. I run NXHost and connect DO across SLIP almost every day. I have done > NOTHING special to get DO to work, and only set up my public window server to > get NXHost to work. Any other problems you may have can be addressed by doing > network routing diagnostics. If your routing isn't working right, you'll have > problems with more than just NXHost and DO. > > Brad. > I dunno about DO, but NXHost has a severe problem with dynamically allocated IP addresses. Apparently the Mach's nmserver likes to get the hostname at boot time and does not like to re-learn it later. If your SLIP server always gives you the same host.name, you should have no problem with running NXHost stuff over SLIP. But if you are getting dynamically allocated IP numbers, it usually means that you are also getting a different host.name every time you connect and THAT is a big trouble for NXHost'ing. I get a dynamical IP from my SLIP server and nothing I tried to make NXHost work did me any good. Ladies and Gentlemen: If anybody knows how to make NXHost work for a dynamically allocated host.name, PLEASE let me know. Given my erratic net-reading habits, I would appreciate e-mail; please reply to: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu. --- Vadim. ********************************************************************** Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h> Assistant Professor of Physics, | #excuse BAD_TYPING University of Texas at Austin. | vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | NeXTMail welcome.
From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca (griffon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC client! Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 01:04:46 +1000 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <griffon.316.0019F322@unixg.ubc.ca> Is there any good neat IRC client out there!? Can someone point me to one? Thanks!=) Griff
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there a way to read news with OmniWeb.app ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 1 Oct 1994 08:45:26 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <36j7j6$krb@news.cerf.net> Is there a way to read news with OmniWeb.app ? Murshid
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 1 Oct 1994 08:58:02 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36j8aq$uq5@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <36dqrj$83m@yucca.omnigroup.com> In article <36dqrj$83m@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: &rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes: & &>She (Dody (Doe - dy)) told me that for Moto hardware that 3.0.1 was the &>latest release, no bug fixes to mention for moto. I asked her why when &>Frame 3.2 was compiled that they didn't throw the switch for moto arch.. & &She is mistaken. There are plenty of bug fixes in Frame 3.2, and it's &triply-fat. Talk to Lighthouse. & &-Wil I was hoping someone from Omni would speak up. I'll speak with her on this again. But I still havn't gotten much commentary about this $400 or $495 etc. pricetag on the 'maintenance' upgrade! And I'm still not convinced that we will be seeing Frame4.0. So unless I hear (and I will pose these questions to Lighthouse) something hopeful about Frame4.0 (serious committment) I really am not convinced that a maintence upgrade (to fix some bugs, but mainly to recompile under 3.2) is worth $400. Care to comment Omni? (Probably not..)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) Subject: Re: Communications Software Message-ID: <1994Sep30.205250.26658@vectrex.login.qc.ca> Organization: Compjutr Syntax Error Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:52:50 GMT References: <9409291321.AA02742@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> Trey McClendon (trey@hsv.tybrin.com) wrote: [munch] : This is a list from the help of NXFax 1.04. Sorry for the terrible formatting. : ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [munch] : This release of NXFax has been tested with the following modems: [munch] : NXFax works well and the support from B&W has been very good. To me it appears : that it supports the most popular modems in use today. If yours is a class 2 : fax modem there is probably a good chance that NXFax will work with it. Ok. Question: "Has anyone made NXFax work with a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 Faxmodem ?" : Trey -- petergun R-name : Stephane I. Matis E-mail : petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Mods to ListProcess 6.0? Message-ID: <westesCwzM4s.9v2@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 09:24:27 GMT Has anyone compiled ListServ (Listprocessor 6.0) under NeXTSTEP 3.2 FIP? When I make the necessary changes to the Makefile in the ./src directory and run make, I get errors related to time.h: "invalid use of undefined type `struct tm'" What is the fix to this specific problem, and if someone has compiled Listproc 6.0 I would appreciate other pointers. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mosaic for NeXT? Date: 1 Oct 1994 10:34:13 -0600 Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc Message-ID: <36k325$mf7@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Does anyone know where to get Mosaic for NeXT? I don't want it for Xwindows, just NeXT. Thanks! ============================Jon Sacharuk================================ I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -Jon Sacharuk +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca++++++++++++++++++++ --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: dimitri@duti614c.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: Re: Is Application Kit OpenStep-compliant ? Message-ID: <Cx053w.AKC@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Keywords: Foundation Kit, OpenStep, Application Kit Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration) Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <1994Sep27.161833.325@alias.com> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 16:14:19 GMT 1. Foundation Kit != Application Kit 2. EOF uses Foundation Kit, not Application Kit (well, the EOModeler uses Appkit, but it's a tool and not part of the Framework) 3. Foundation Kit is OpenStep compliant -> EOF is OpenStep compliant 4. The current Application Kit is _not_ OpenStep compliant. The 4.0 version will be. 5. You can easily see whether a kit is OpenStep compliant: - the classes have names with NS in front instead NX - char* is changed to NSString Hope this helps. Dimitri In article <1994Sep27.161833.325@alias.com>, Guno Sutiono <gsutiono@alias.com> wrote: >A friend of mine who does not have net access asks me to >post the following questions. You may however repond >directly to me at gsutiono@alias.com > >====================================================== > >Correct me if I am wrong please. OpenStep seems to be built >on something called Foundation Kit (FK). There are lots >of nice things come with this kit and it looks very much like >the Application Kit (AK). However, I notice that similar >methods have different names and different parameters. >For example, while the AK provides 'allocFromZone' method, >the FK uses 'allocWithZone'. Instead of 'respondsTo' in AK, >it uses 'respondsToSelector' in FK. Another example is >that the message forwarding method uses different set of >parameters. > >So, does it mean that if I create object based on AK, it would >not be reused under OpenStep ? If so, is the next version of >AK OpenStep-compliant ? Is the next version of EOF OpenStep- >compliant ? How do other develpers think about this issue ? > >We'll apprepriate any input on this matter. Thanks. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | NeGeN | | Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland | | Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe | | and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to convert BMF files to something else? Date: 1 Oct 1994 17:26:02 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <36k63a$49r@news.mic.ucla.edu> I bought Corel's clip-art library on CD-ROM. All pix are in *.bmf format, and I'd like to convert them (as needed) to eps or tiff, or something else I can use on NeXT. I can't find any programs that can even read *.bmf images. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Heikki ketola
From: derekc@tss.com (Derek Collison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Anyone use OnmiWeb with a firewall/Proxy? Date: 30 Sep 1994 21:33:51 GMT Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc. Distribution: all Message-ID: <36i07v$q54@newsflash.tss.com> Has anyone got OmniWeb to work through a firewall using the proxy option? Any help appreciated. -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com NST --> NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design On Contract: Tekenekron Software Systems <--> derekc@tss.com
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 2 Oct 1994 00:30:33 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36kuv9$cko@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <368sh8$p6m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <36dqrj$83m@yucca.omnigroup.com> In article <36dqrj$83m@yucca.omnigroup.com>, William Shipley <wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com> wrote: >She is mistaken. There are plenty of bug fixes in Frame 3.2, and it's >triply-fat. Talk to Lighthouse. Can someone give a brief explanation of the relationship between Frame Technologies, Lighthouse Design, and OmniGroup regarding FrameMaker. As I understood it Omni did some development work on FrameMaker recently (ported it? to what,Intel and HP?). Lighthouse I thought was serving as a reseller, or something, for the NEXTSTEP community. But lots of people seem to be talking directly to Frame. Are you supposed to order FrameMaker from Lighthouse or Frame themselves? I'm sure it's all very simple, if someone wants to quickly explain it. Also, I guess no one knows when or whether Frame 4 will come to the NEXTSTEP world? This is very disappointing. I can't really justify buying Frame 3 for my NEXTSTEP/Intel box for some outrageous price (what's the academic price? Lighthouse usually has good academic discounts...) when Frame 4 has been out for many other platforms for a long time and I can go get Frame 4 for Windows for under $150 ($120 I think) academic. Is the NEXTSTEP community getting screwed on this one? -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: What to do about WriteNow documents and Improv spreadsheets Message-ID: <Cwz3G9.1CA@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Sep28.145952.647@Princeton.EDU> Distribution: unlimited Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 02:40:57 GMT serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU wrote: : We're going to be converting our stock of Motorola Nexts to Intel, and I've : been asked to come up with a way to deal with our WriteNow documents and Improv : spreadhseets. Anybody know if there's a way to convert these into some format : that currently supported products can handle (and NOT loose all of the : formatting information)? Thanks, : Serge J. Goldstein : Princeton University CIT Quantrix from Lighthouse is suppoesed to include support for Improv files. I don't think that it's shipping yet...... later jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: why is Locus.app so fat? Message-ID: <Cx0Lvr.H13@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 22:16:38 GMT Locus is an app which does little (although very well) but weights over 2.7 meg. Any idea why? antoine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) Subject: OmniWeb, Term and httpd Message-ID: <1994Oct1.223913.2683@vectrex.login.qc.ca> Organization: Compjutr Syntax Error Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 22:39:13 GMT Hello folks! I'm going to describe a way to use OmniWeb with a NeXT and 'term' based connection. First, let's review the pieces of the puzzle. OmniWeb a really nice, NEXTSTEP based WWW viewer http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.app.tar.gz Term an amazing telecom utility that allows "pipelining" IP between host and client machines ftp://physics.purdue.edu/pub/bcr/term/term-2.1.4.tar.gz Httpd I use the CERN edition http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/Status.html So, the trouble is that OmniWeb comes in binary only, and to make the software use Term, we need to cheat a lot. Now, with version 0.7.5, we can finally bypass a lot of 'tredir' rediction of ports by using the Proxy facility built in. Here is how: . Get the CERN edition 'httpd' for your host machine. Probbally you'll find the binaries. . Extract the 'httpd' and the 'httpd.conf' files, dump the rest to save space. I recomend you strip the binary as well. . Configure the 'httpd.conf' file to point at your home directory and add the following lines. These statements will allow you to proxy your request through the 'httpd' deamon. Pass http:* Pass ftp:* Pass gopher:* Pass wais:* Pass news:* . Once connected through term (read info included with term on method), redirect the following ports. #local> tredir 8000 8000 #local> tredir 4000 23 . In a new terminal session, "telnet yourmachine 4000", and log in again. . Start the 'httpd' server by : ./httpd -r httpd.conf -p 8000 & . In OmniWeb, configure the proxies for http, news, ftp, wais, etc, to yourmachine:8000 Voila ... So, now when you select something in OmniWeb, it will send the request to you machine's port 8000, which links through term to your remote host's port 8000, which runs 'httpd' as Proxy server. The server then grabs the request and executes it on the net, piping back through term the results. Your now fully connected. Now for the bugs : 1. After some roaming, OmniWeb seems to start pre-pending the "Proxy" part of the address to many times. This will give you junk. In this case, stop OmniWeb and star again. A bug for OmniGroup. 2. My tries with this setup always crash OmniWeb when I select "Add" to personal log. Another bug for OmniGroup. If you wish to watch the HTTP interaction, change the httpd server startup to : #remote> ./httpd -v -r httpd.conf -p 8000 This will let you see the HTTP "chatter". Any questions, please follo-up this post. My E-mail is clunky. SIM -- petergun R-name : Stephane I. Matis E-mail : petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 2 Oct 1994 14:41:48 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> References: <36hiaf$qm3@news.cs.brandeis.edu> David A. Sinclair (sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu) wrote: : Hello, netland! : I am considering upgrading our NeXT systems (black hardware) from : NS3.0 to NS3.2 this weekend, and am looking for any pitfalls to avoid : along the way. Any software disappear during the upgrade? Any : upgrade bugs? Anything to be particularly careful of? To be perfectly honest I don't know if upgrade.app is truly broken, or there's just a lot of rumors and voodoo floating around, BUT... Everyone I know who has ever ugpraded OS versions using "upgrade" has sooner or later (usually within a day or two) given up, sited some sort of strange or recurring problem, and installed NS from scratch. If there are any SUCCESS stories, or fast-scripts that simplify this process and will make the move from 3.2 to 3.3 any simpler, I too would LOVE to hear it.
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dual Boot question Date: 2 Oct 1994 09:06 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <2OCT199409062543@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I have a dual-boot setup on my Pentium 90 with 32MB. When I'm in DOS/ Windows, however, I get a "run of memory" error when I try to start VisualWorks 2.0. I've tried everything to minimize memory usage - I mean cutting to the bone. Yet I still get that error. Is anyone running VW2.0? Has anyone else seen such an error with other products? Any ideas or suggestions? Can this be something that is caused by the NeXT dual-boot setup? Thanks. Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 2 Oct 1994 17:32:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <36mqs3$la7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> In article <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > To be perfectly honest I don't know if upgrade.app is truly broken, or there's > just a lot of rumors and voodoo floating around, BUT... Everyone I know who > has ever ugpraded OS versions using "upgrade" has sooner or later (usually > within a day or two) given up, sited some sort of strange or recurring problem, > and installed NS from scratch. > > If there are any SUCCESS stories, or fast-scripts that simplify this process > and will make the move from 3.2 to 3.3 any simpler, I too would LOVE to hear > it. I have upgraded from 3.0 PR1 -> 3.0 PR2 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 PR1 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 (may have missed one or two in there) and have used Upgrade.app on every upgrade except one which I did from scratch when I installed a new disk drive. I have never experienced any problems caused by upgrading rather than installing from scratch. I'm not sure why I haven't experienced the problems others have reported. Maybe it's because I maintain strict separation between NeXT's files and my own by not adding anything to the /Next* directories. I also try not to add or modify anything in the standard UNIX directories instead maintaining a /usr/local tree for local additions. Obviously, some of the /etc files must be customized to express local configurations. I've never upgraded using the automatic feature, either. I laboriously look through the list of files to be upgraded as provided by Upgrade.app and decide whether to upgrade or save files that I've modified. So my feeling has always been that Upgrade.app isn't broken, but that it cannot possibly deal with all the questionable modifications that might be made to system files. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tom@smart.ruhr.de (Thomas Neumann) Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 19:16:59 GMT Message-ID: <TOM.94Oct2201659@smart.ruhr.de> References: <36hiaf$qm3@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> Sender: tom@smart.ruhr.de (Thomas Neumann) In-Reply-To: bbry@bu.edu's message of 2 Oct 1994 14:41:48 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: none >>>>> "Bryony" == Bryony Bechtold <bbry@bu.edu> writes: Bryony> To be perfectly honest I don't know if upgrade.app is Bryony> truly broken, or there's just a lot of rumors and voodoo Bryony> floating around, BUT... Everyone I know who has ever Bryony> ugpraded OS versions using "upgrade" has sooner or later Bryony> (usually within a day or two) given up, sited some sort of Bryony> strange or recurring problem, and installed NS from Bryony> scratch. I've done 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 with Upgrade.app. No problem, no need to reinstall from scratch. -t
From: danno@maui.com (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 2 Oct 1994 19:14:25 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36n0qh$c9m@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com> References: <EiW4U0W00iV881dEV6@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 27-Sep-94 Re: FrameMaker > 3.0 and NS 3.2? by rencsok@convex.cl.msu.ed > > She (Dody (Doe - dy)) told me that for Moto hardware that 3.0.1 was the > > latest release, no bug fixes to mention for moto. I asked her why when > > Frame 3.2 was compiled that they didn't throw the switch for moto arch.. > > While they're at it, they might want to (a) compile with '-O4' instead > of '-O2' and (b) also perform link optimization. (Neither of which was > done, apparently.) > Just FYI - I'd been *trying* to run Frame 3.0.1 on black 030 NS3.2, (and 3.1) to the result of very arbitrary crashes (Frame, that is, not NS). I was told that the 3.0 Frame release seems to work better... Anyone else have this experience ? I'm trying it now, but curious if this is consistent out there? tnx, --danno
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 2 Oct 1994 17:41:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> In article <36fqhi$rji@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes: >swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) writes: > >>Apologies if this has been recently covered here, but... > >>Anybody know how to excise those pesky HPPA executables? >>I'm running 3.2. > As always, I think the best solution is "get TickleServices". Once you have done that, you can use the service "Lipo/Thin for Current" which will take everything else out but what you need. You might also want to check out MetroSuction, a free (if I remember correctly) applet that shows all the present architectures and allows you to remove the ones you do not want. Both are on the usual archives. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeXmenu services won't stay disabled! Date: 2 Oct 1994 23:49:33 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <36ngud$9mi@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Dmitri Linde's excellent TeXmenu package seems to have a recurring problem under NS 3.2. It advertises about a half-dozen services, to TeX files using different macro packages...and no matter how many times I disable these services, they keep re-enabling themselves, running my Services menu right off the screen in some applications. The bad behavior seems to occur when I log out while TeXmenu is still running, though I can't get it to happen consistently so this is basically a guess. Has anyone else seen this, and if so does anyone have a fix? ``Why don't they make a |====================================================== kitchen that flushes?'' | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu -- E. Cristol |======================================================
From: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (Dale Brisinda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NYRO Technix, Inc. Email Address? Date: 3 Oct 1994 00:18:03 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Distribution: world Message-ID: <36nijr$m82@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Can someone provide me with the email address for NYRO Technix, Inc.? I just read that they are selling some UUCP connection software and an email address is not provided in their NEXT IN LINE advertisement. Thanks, Dale -- Dale Brisinda Email: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Graduate Student NeXTmail: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca Department of Computer Science Tel: (403) 220-7687 University of Calgary Fax: (403) 281-5242
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NYRO Technix, Inc. Email Address? Date: 3 Oct 1994 04:03:26 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <36nvqe$1nu@nntp.crl.com> References: <36nijr$m82@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In article <36nijr$m82@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (Dale Brisinda) writes: > Can someone provide me with the email address for NYRO Technix, Inc.? I > just read that they are selling some UUCP connection software and an email > address is not provided in their NEXT IN LINE advertisement. > > Thanks, > Dale NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice 415 664-5530 fax ian@nyro.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 3 Oct 1994 00:32:33 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <36o1h1$f1j@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Clip art for NS Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:00:25 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <36oh79$bmr@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi all - Does anyone know where I can find some clip art of countries? I'm looking for USA, australia, europe, japan, NZ, canada, and mexico that I can place in Diagram. Does anyone know of an FTP site or disk that might be of help? Appreciated. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:18:25 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <36oi91$chs@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <36h90f$njg@crcnis1.unl.edu> In article <36h90f$njg@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: > Thanks to the original poster for pointing out this great software > bargain. My budget for software is very limited, but $25 per program was > too good a deal to pass up---I bought all seven programs!---Concurrence > 2.0, Diagram! 2.1, TaskMaster 1.5, WetPaint 1.5, VarioData 1.0, Quantrix > 1.0, ParaSheet. (The last three of these are due later this year.) > > I have no connection with Lighthouse Design---I just know a good thing > when I see it. Sorry to ask this if you've already mentioned it - but how much is Lighthouse charging for all these? 7*$25=$175?? C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeXmenu services won't stay disabled! Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:35:04 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <36oj88$8s@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <36ngud$9mi@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <36ngud$9mi@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > Dmitri Linde's excellent TeXmenu package seems to have a recurring problem > under NS 3.2. It advertises about a half-dozen services, to TeX files using [...] > Has anyone else seen this, and if so does anyone have a fix? Just to correct the little mistake. TeXmenu is written by Harald Schlangmann. Harald can be reached via schlangm@informatik.uni-muenchen.de. He always is and was very responsive to questions and problems. Or maybe Joshua meant another TeX package written by Dmitri Linde? Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B D-80802 Muenchen Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Message-ID: <1994Oct2.214721.1947@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 21:47:21 GMT I'm not a next wizard, but didn't have to be; it just worked. I may have saved a few files to reinstall. Just ask the installer to give you an upgrade plan. Then look at the plan and see if it is proposing to delete anything you want. Good idea to back up crucial stuff before you do any kind of surgery on your system. -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dead emacs Date: 3 Oct 1994 08:37:19 -0500 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <36p1ef$spi@edwin.bga.com> A couple of days ago I was firing up my emacs and it died with a <bill /Net/other/Users/bill other> emacs Fatal error (10).Bus error To my knowledge, nothing has changed on my system that could account for this. I did have to fsck my disk a couple of time last week after some system panics, so I suspected something got corrupted. I have gone back to the 3.2 CD and pulled fresh copies of /usr/bin/emacs and /usr/lib/emacs. The problem still persists. Does anyone know if there are some other files emacs might use that could be corrupted? I have not seen any other problems with my system so I doubt it is anything like a corrupted shared library. Bill Tschumy Otherwise bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail and MIME)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip for Workspace Manager Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:40:35 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410031440.AA01200@alleg.EDU> Well, I can give you two alternatives: 1) Find Opener.app on the archives (129.187.249.15 or ftp.cs.orst.edu for starters). This is an application which can uncompress many different forms and use many different forms of compression very easily. Put this App on your Dock and select a .gz file. Then pull up the Tools inspector (usually command-3) and select Opener.app as the default open app for files with a .gz extention. OR 2) It is possible to change the WM's compression to "gzip" and decompression to "gunzip". This will mean that when you create a ".compressed" file it will really be "tar.gz" (by default, ".compressed" is in most ways the same as "tar.Z"). WARNING: If you change your WM compression to use gzip, make sure that you rename the files to "foo.tar.gz" when you NeXTMail them to someone, because if they do not have the WM using gzip to uncompress, it will not work properly. I avoid this problem by an "at" script which renames all my ".compressed" files to ".tar.gz" files. Even if you do not change your Compression to gzip (which I think is silly, since it seems to work so much better than regular compression), you can change your UNcompress to gzip (which will uncompress most forms of compression These are the dwrites to make WM use GZIP for compression: dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes This is the dwrite to make WM use GUNZIP for Decompression: dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip -- TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Numerical analysis programs ?? Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:16:54 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <36p796$ka4@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I am going to try this one more time. Has anyone successfully compiled OCTAVE under NS/i 3.2? John Stanhope
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:32:12 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! Slecting all of the articles and clicking the Article->Mark Read button does the same thing. The only way that I have been able to get this to work is to read them all or selecting a small group, marking them read, Quiting the application and repeating the procedure until they are all gone... Is there a fix for this? This is only a minor annoyance, but it would be nice if it did not happen <smile>. Thank you for any responses about this... -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
From: khader@vnet.net (Khader's) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need a Font maker Software on Next Black Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:44:37 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <36p8t6$d1f@ralph.vnet.net> Hi, I am looking for a Font maker software for the Next Black >= 3.0. Any recommendations, venders, etc. How compatible FontoGrapher *.afm files on the Next? Thanks in advance.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Clip art for NS Date: 3 Oct 1994 17:03:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <36pdhj$b1m@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <36oh79$bmr@marble.Britain.EU.net> In article <36oh79$bmr@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) writes: >Hi all - > >Does anyone know where I can find some clip art of countries? I'm looking >for USA, australia, europe, japan, NZ, canada, and mexico that I can place >in Diagram. > >Does anyone know of an FTP site or disk that might be of help? If you are going to be using geographical maps a lot, you can generate whatever regions you want using the GMT-system. It compiles fine on NS, and comes with a database of the world which is quite good. You can even control which mapping projections to use. And it generates PostScript (and nothing but PostScript). GMT-system sources can be found at kiawe.soest.hawaii.edu [128.171.151.16] in directory pub/gmt. And if you have Tailor to touch things up (like removing unwanted countries), you are set. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Subject: Re: qi on NextStep Message-ID: <1994Oct3.192233.15615@unix.brighton.ac.uk> Sender: news@unix.brighton.ac.uk Organization: University of Brighton, UK References: <36gc4r$534@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:22:33 GMT sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes: > Has anyone compiled the CSO phone/address server (qi) for NextStep > (2.1 or 3.0)? For the record, the distribution does in fact include an implementation of strdup, but the configuration script for NS is slightly wrong. Adding -DNO_STRDUP to the Cflags string in configs/defaults.h was sufficient (in addition to installing the blank unistd.h file in the includes directory). No doubt there's some better place for these changes, but... Thanks to those who suggested workarounds. -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v of strdup, but the configuration script for NS is slightly wrong. Adding -DNO_STRDUP to the Cflags string in configs/defaults.h was sufficient (in addition to installing the blank unistd.h file in the includes directory). No doubt there's some better place for these changes, but... Thanks to those who suggested workarounds. -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's Univers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: Soliciting comments about SLIP software for NS3.2 Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Oct3141955@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 18:19:55 GMT I'm thinking about getting SLIP software for my NeXT at home. I believe there are three providers: Marble Teleconnect, TRANSYS, and the free (?) SLIP on ftp.cs.orst.edu. If you feel strongly about one or more of these packages please email your comments to me. Also does anyone have a phone number or email address for the TRANSYS folks? Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL:919-541-3473, FAX:919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA -- Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL:919-541-3473, FAX:919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) Subject: Mac font conversion to NEXTSTEP fonts Message-ID: <1994Oct3.183815.13924@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:38:15 GMT Hello, Does font conversion from Mac to NEXTSTEP fonts work well? Do the fonts show up correctly on the screen and through the printer? I'm debating whether I should buy new NEXTSTEP fonts or convert my existing Mac ones using Trillithon's converter or the utility in Metro Tools. Does anyone have comments or suggestions? Thanbkyou, Chris Conley Chicago
From: schwett@differencengine.hip.berkeley.edu (Mark Schwettmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for WWW client : INTEL Date: 3 Oct 1994 21:21:03 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <36psjv$if5@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi... I've been enviously reading all these HTTP addresses of late, wishing I could use World Wide Web on my Intel NeXTStep machine. I've looked around, and couldn't find fat binaries for the necessary viewers. Did I not look enough? Are they lurking? Am I dreaming? Thanks in Advance... Mark Schwettmann schwett@ced.berkeley.edu [NeXTMail Yummy]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Message-ID: <Cx49s0.9LA@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 21:45:34 GMT In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) writes: > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! If you're trying to "catch up" when NG is sorting, it crashes. -- personal opinions
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeXmenu services won't stay disabled! Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:54:05 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <36q22d$g3v@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <36oj88$8s@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Robert Stabl writes > In article <36ngud$9mi@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. > Burton) writes: > > Dmitri Linde's excellent TeXmenu package seems to have a recurring problem > > under NS 3.2. It advertises about a half-dozen services, to TeX files > > Just to correct the little mistake. TeXmenu is written by Harald Schlangmann. > Harald can be reached via schlangm@informatik.uni-muenchen.de. He always is > and was very responsive to questions and problems. > > Or maybe Joshua meant another TeX package written by Dmitri Linde? > > Robert. Sorry. I meant the TeXEdit/TeXTables/TeXWorks package, which is in fact Dmitri's. I used to use TeXmenu, which is also good. May go back to it if I don't get this silly services thing fixed.... Hier liegen meine Gebeine: |=================================================== Wenn waeren sie nur deine! | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu -- H. Heine (epitaph) |===================================================
From: tennant@alph.msfc.nasa.gov (Allyn Tennant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:36:31 GMT Organization: NASA/MSFC Message-ID: <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> References: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) writes: > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! Hey NeXT, please fix this! Jayson has made it very clear that he intends to punish NewsGrazer users by not releasing a better NewGrazer. There is no reason for NeXT to also punish us by leaving this bug. This causes NewsGrazer to crash for me almost daily and when it does, I do not have polite words for either NeXT or Jayson. (Note, I'm not asking for new features, just fix the crash, and maybe make a tri-fat version). Allyn
From: Robert Dennis <rad@cse.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.0J and WriteNow ?? Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:32:07 GMT Organization: Center for the Study of Evaluation @ UCLA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36qban$7ui@news.mic.ucla.edu> I have Nextstep 3.0J running on my 25 MHz cube. I was hoping that I could use something other than Edit to do text editing and layout. Has anyone been able to use WriteNow under NS3.0J? What other commercial apps will accept Kanji input? Any help and ideas would be great. If I get a response I will happily summarize for the group. sincerely rad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Mac font conversion to NEXTSTEP fonts In-Reply-To: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu's message of Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:38:15 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct3184730@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <1994Oct3.183815.13924@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 01:47:30 GMT Chris Conley writes: Chris> Hello, Does font conversion from Mac to NEXTSTEP fonts work well? Do Chris> the fonts show up correctly on the screen and through the printer? Chris> I'm debating whether I should buy new NEXTSTEP fonts or convert my Chris> existing Mac ones using Trillithon's converter or the utility in Chris> Metro Tools. If you bought them, go ahead and convert them with Henry's tools. There is only a slight formatting difference between the two fonts - the data is the same, and so the conversion is "lossless". (As a counter example, conversion to/from TrueType generally loses hints, and is "lossy"). If you didn't buy them, now might be a good time to consider "going legal" :-). -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for WWW client : INTEL Date: 4 Oct 1994 02:17:21 GMT Organization: GlobalCom Message-ID: <36qdvh$8ek@goodnews.globalcom.net> References: <36psjv$if5@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <36psjv$if5@agate.berkeley.edu>, schwett@differencengine.hip.berkeley.edu (Mark Schwettmann) says: > >Hi... > >I've been enviously reading all these HTTP addresses of late, wishing I >could use World Wide Web on my Intel NeXTStep machine. Check out ftp.omnigroup.com. Look for OmniWeb, and a related image viewer called, I think, OmniImageFilter. Free or shareware, eventually to go commercial I think. Good. ttfn, Patrick
From: xcarn@mcmuse.mc.maricopa.edu (Michael Carnright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: weighted graphs App Date: 4 Oct 1994 02:10:48 GMT Organization: Maricopa Community Colleges Message-ID: <36qdj8$g4c@names.maricopa.edu> -- I am interested it finding a NeXT Application that will visualize cyclic weighted graphs. Is there a NeXT App like that? I found some for X-Windows in linux so I believe that there should be one for NeXT STEP. The programs in linux are: nauty, CATbox, gap, graphED, leda, daVinci, and graph. Thank you in advance:) xcarn@mcmuse.mc.maricopa.edu Some madness is the divinest sense to a discerning eye... Emily Dickenson
From: shinyash@trance.helix.net (Kazuya Shinyashiki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Standard Music Notation Software? Date: 3 Oct 1994 21:04:23 -0700 Organization: Helix Internet Message-ID: <36qk87$9k7@trance.helix.net> Is there any software available via ftp for the NeXT that does standard music notation? -- Kaz Shinyashiki shinyash@helix.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Document management software (ie: electronic file cabinets) Message-ID: <rwyattCx4LpK.3uF@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 02:03:19 GMT I like the idea of organizing my data in electronic "file cabinets". If I remember correctly, there were two such apps for NEXTSTEP: PaperSight and ElectroWorks. Are these still around? Does anyone have contact info for either company? And, the most important question...is anyone currently using either pacakge? What do you think of it? Thanks! -Rob rwyatt@netcom.com (ASCII ONLY!) rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail & MIME) <--- prefered address
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Quickbase 4.0 ?? Message-ID: <1994Oct4.042903.17262@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <369hob$sju@slowhand.nmb.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 04:29:03 GMT Steve McDowall writes > Does anyone have handy the company / phone # for the people > who make Quickbase ??? > > (Does anyone have any expirence in using QB? ) > I've worked with SofDesign's QuickBase in the past (up to and including 4.0). Their product is great. Excellent API, good support. Fast. Sorry, I don't seem to have their number handy. I'll look and post later. -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: Alert Panel App Message-ID: <Cwz49s.LE@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <CwspGE.8vo@serval.net.wsu.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 02:58:40 GMT You should look a VWall. I believe you need to contact the author directly as the original publisher is no longer around. I believe his email address is: "Paul Tognato-Haddad" <pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> Hope that helps. Ian In article <CwspGE.8vo@serval.net.wsu.edu> bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) writes: > I am looking for a simple application that one can use to raise an alert > panel on a users system telling them something about the system... (like > "Log off now, system is going down in five minutes"). > > Are there any programs that have a command line user interface specifying > certain text strings to display in a panel? I need to have cron call the > program. What we need to do is warn everyone that we are going to boot > them off at 11PM everynight and not let them log back in until 7 AM... > > please email your response as I do not regularly monitor these groups. I > will post a summary. > > -- > Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger > Office:(509)-335-4053 > Assistant Professor > FAX:(509)-335-3818 > School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science > Washington State University > Pullman, WA 99164-2752 > -- NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ortmann@plains.NoDak.edu (Daniel Ortmann) Subject: GNU for Intel NeXTSTEP: Request for Configuration Information Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cx25ox.I5D@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 18:22:08 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Hello, This thread may be of general interest for Intel NeXTSTEP users since we are a fast growing group. Old-timers please excuse if this subject appears "mined out" to you... Perhaps the answers could be "FAQ" material? Is there a FAQ for this group? I see that current GNU compiler/library/gas, etc code *does* have configurations for Black NextSTEP boxes. What about Intel? Before beginning work, I would like to take advantage of the efforts of you experienced NeXT gurus. I am new to this box and your efforts would be invaluable to me. Here are my questions: 1) What configuration corrections do I need to make to the following to the configuration files for the following GNU software? Specifically, what *minimal* changes can I make to take advantage of existing NeXTSTEP for black configuration work? gcc-2.6.0.tar.gz gas-2.3.tar.gz binutils-2.4.tar.gz malloc.tar.gz glibc-1.08.1-crypt.tar.gz glibc-1.08.1.tar.gz libg++-2.6.tar.gz gdb-4.13.tar.gz cvs-1.3.tar.gz perl-4.036.tar.gz oleo-1.6.tar.gz nihcl-3.0.tar.gz elib-0.06.tar.gz emacs-19.27.tar.gz ghostscript-2.6.1.fix-01.gz ghostscript-2.6.1.fix-02.gz ghostscript-2.6.1.fix-03.gz ghostscript-2.6.1.fix-04.gz ghostscript-2.6.1.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-2.6.1.tar.gz ghostview-1.5.tar.gz readline-2.0.tar.gz screen-3.5.2.tar.gz smalltalk-1.1.1.tar.gz termcap-1.2.tar.gz 2) What configuration(s), other than those aimed specifically at NeXTSTEP, are closest to those of NeXTSTEP for Intel? 3) What difficulties might I expect in trying to use the newest GNU software development tools instead of those supplied with NeXTSTEP? What problems exist that are insurmountable? Difficult, but possible? Annoying, but workable? 4) What do I need to do to compile and run X applications on NeXTSTEP? How does the X -> NS-Postscript translation occur? 5) What about compiling and using various display-oriented programs such as ghostscript, gnuplot, screen, and various termcap/terminfo based programs? Are there some general guidelines for getting these to work well with NS? Specifics? I, and perhaps many others, would greatly appreciate your experienced advice. I abhor bad porting...but good ports *do* often take lots of time. Thank you so *very* much, in advance, for your responses! -- Daniel Ortmann ortmann@plains.nodak.edu ortmann@gps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Check Book application? Message-ID: <Cx4AKG.B26@agedwards.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:02:38 GMT References: <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com> Organization: A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. In article <Cwsy6J.4qC@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote: >In article <35r3vr$bp0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> >mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes: >> >> Is there a NeXT application that will help me do my checkbook without >> costing me an arm an a leg? > >Get a copy of Lotus Improv. The tutorial is a checkbook. Look at CheckSum, from Sirius Solutions. I've had it since it was in beta test. My wife (not a computer person) thinks it's great. Kudos to Andreas (non-obligatory plug). On an archive near you... -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: NYRO Technix, Inc. Email Address? Message-ID: <Cx4u5M.Kn@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <36nijr$m82@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 05:05:46 GMT NYRO Technix, Inc. can be reached at info@nyro.com This is not an automated service, so keep that in mind when requesting information. Let us know what we can help with. Ian In article <36nijr$m82@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (Dale Brisinda) writes: > Can someone provide me with the email address for NYRO Technix, Inc.? I > just read that they are selling some UUCP connection software and an email > address is not provided in their NEXT IN LINE advertisement. > > Thanks, > Dale > -- > Dale Brisinda Email: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca > Graduate Student NeXTmail: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca > Department of Computer Science Tel: (403) 220-7687 > University of Calgary Fax: (403) 281-5242 -- NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 4 Oct 1994 07:12:43 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <36qv9b$900@nntp.crl.com> References: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) writes: > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! > Slecting all of the articles and clicking the Article->Mark Read button > does the same thing. The only way that I have been able to get this to > work is to read them all or selecting a small group, marking them read, > Quiting the application and repeating the procedure until they are all > gone... > > Is there a fix for this? > I also found this problem slightly annoying:-) I've discovered that if I walk away (or simply busy myself with other tasks for a while after launching NG), when I come back, the article names in the news groups in my list view have all loaded. At this point, I've had pretty good luck choosing Group -> Mark Articles Read. without crashing. NG doesn't seem to like catching up on articles for which it only knows the article number. Perhaps this is a feature, rather than a bug! ;-) I'm fortunate enough not to have a time based account, so this trick is worth the wait to get caught up on *.advocacy and the like. Michael Rutchik michael@mmgraph.com
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: why is Locus.app so fat? Date: 4 Oct 1994 07:55:01 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Message-ID: <36r1ol$61b@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> References: <Cx0Lvr.H13@athena.ulaval.ca> Keywords: strip Originator: hannes@esprit In article <Cx0Lvr.H13@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > Locus is an app which does little (although very well) but weights over 2.7 > meg. > > Any idea why? > > antoine Maybe it's not stripped. Some applications using bundles are not stripped, because the need some symbols for runtime linking. But in fact one could use strip -AnS Locus.app/Locus which removes just the symbols not needed for loading bundles. (_please_ make a copy before trying...) Hope it helps __________________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 4 Oct 1994 07:55:08 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Message-ID: <36r1os$61c@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> References: <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> Keywords: fat, thin, architecture, lipo Originator: hannes@esprit In article <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > As always, I think the best solution is "get TickleServices". Once > you have done that, you can use the service "Lipo/Thin for Current" > which will take everything else out but what you need. > > You might also want to check out MetroSuction, a free (if I remember > correctly) applet that shows all the present architectures and > allows you to remove the ones you do not want. > > Both are on the usual archives. > > These tools are fine, but if you want to do it just for now, the following will do: In a shell type lipo -thin m68k -output Foo.app/Foo Foo.app/Foo with m68k replaced by your architecture (m68k, i386, hppa) This will create a thin executable with code for just the given architecture. Hope it helps _____________________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No permissions for wall and write? Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:12:15 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <36rnrv$kvm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Greetings all! Just a really quick question for you gurus out there -- Why can't anyone but superuser on my computer (Running NS 3.2) wall or write to all tty's? I checked the 'mesg' function for each user, and everyone is accepting messages, and I verified that it seemingly has nothing to do with masks or locked directories... I even browsed around in the /dev directory, hoping to find some answer there, but alas -- there was none. The one thing I did note was that each tty was writable by the user and by group tty, which of course no one on here has except for root (Indirectly)... Any ideas? Should I add tty to everyone's group list? Or should I assume that no one on the machine is meant to write or wall to anything but console? :) Thanks in advance -- please reply to jlm13@po.cwru.edu, seeing how the NeXT is up and down these days, depending on the weather... (40 minute brownouts are evil!) Later! John -- ------------------------------------------------------------ John L. Millard | "Sow your wild oats on 4th Year Computer Engineering | Saturday night -- then on Case Western Reserve Univ. | Sunday pray for crop night@b65215.student.cwru.edu | failure." jlm13@po.cwru.edu | ______________________________| -- Murphy's Laws of Sex "Don't play that song, that "achy-breaky" song, I think it is driving me insane -- Oh please don't play that song, that irritating song -- I'd rather have a pitchfork in my brain!" -- "Weird Al" Yankovic ------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Message-ID: <Cx5KFL.19H@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:33:19 GMT In article <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> tennant@alph.msfc.nasa.gov (Allyn Tennant) writes: > In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu > (Rod Ragner) writes: > > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! > > Hey NeXT, please fix this! Jayson has made it very clear that > he intends to punish NewsGrazer users by not releasing a better > NewGrazer. There is no reason for NeXT to also punish us by > leaving this bug. This causes NewsGrazer to crash for me almost > daily and when it does, I do not have polite words for either > NeXT or Jayson. Say, Allyn. How much did you pay for NewsGrazer? Get it? -- personal opinions
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:33:22 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Is Pencom still supporting co-Xist ? I asked them about a HP-PA version, but didn't get any answer yet. Since it's quite time-critical for us, perhaps anybody else knows how to contact them about co-Xist/HPPA ? Gregor PS: cub'X/HPPA isn't far away !! -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pbmplus package for next Date: 4 Oct 1994 16:46:16 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <36s0so$g80@news.bu.edu> Has anyone yet compiled the pbmplus toolkit as a nextstep .pkg, or made any particular changes to this toolkit for NeXT, or should NI just lift the standard distribution off of one of the sites and modify the makefiles myself? Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: how to use nonNeXT-sounds? Message-ID: <Cx3t49.Az@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <1994Sep27.083034.883@mjw.octagon.de> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 15:45:40 GMT In article <1994Sep27.083034.883@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) writes: > I have some sound-files sampled on a sun, that I need now on my > NeXT. Is it possible to convert them, if yes: how? Normally it should be enough to rename them from 'mysound.au' to 'mysound.snd'. If that doesn't work, try GISO. You can find it on 'ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de' in '/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps'. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: 31howk@wmich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOOM for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <1994Oct4.133303.22081@wmichgw> Date: 4 Oct 94 13:33:03 EDT Organization: Western Michigan University Could someone please tell me where I can find Doom for the NeXT? Any and all answers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, J.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:50:54 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36s4lu$idj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <36kuv9$cko@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <36kuv9$cko@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > Are you supposed to > order FrameMaker from Lighthouse or Frame themselves? Lighthouse cannot offer academic discounts. If you want the academic price, you must contact Frame directly. Try calling 800-u4frame or emailing telemkg@frame.com. > Lighthouse usually has good academic discounts But Frame doesn't. Lighthouse is only the reseller. The academic price for the maintenance/bug fix release is $399. Gee, what a bargain. I'll keep using version 3.0.1, thank you. > Is the NEXTSTEP community getting screwed on this one? Frame is only taking advantage of a market desperate for a word processor whose format is compatible across multiple platforms. Screwed? Well, yes. But it's only supply and demand. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ptruman@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (-=Falcon=-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ytalk for NeXT Date: 4 Oct 1994 19:44:55 +0100 Organization: M.O.D Nuclear Weapons Design Centre, Aldermaston. Message-ID: <36s7r7$i43@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of ytalk for the NeXT? If you do (or if you have it) please e-mail me the site address or the uuencoded+tar'd file! Cheers Pete -- .---. .----------- / \ __ / ------ / / \( )/ ----- Peter James Truman ////// ' \/ ` --- -=Falcon=- //// / // : : --- ptruman@rowan.cov.ac.uk // / / /` '-- xuncn@csv.warwick.ac.uk // //..\\ ----UU----UU------------------------------------------------- '//||\\` ''``
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: gzip for Workspace Manager Message-ID: <1994Oct4.123831.1012@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <9410031440.AA01200@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 12:38:31 GMT In article <9410031440.AA01200@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: }~ Well, I can give you two alternatives: }~ }~ 1) Find Opener.app on the archives (129.187.249.15 or }~ ftp.cs.orst.edu for starters). This is an application which can }~ uncompress many different forms and use many different forms of }~ compression very easily. Put this App on your Dock and select a .gz }~ file. Then pull up the Tools inspector (usually command-3) and }~ select Opener.app as the default open app for files with a .gz }~ extention. }~ }~ OR }~ 2) It is possible to change the WM's compression to "gzip" }~ and decompression to "gunzip". This will mean that when you create a }~ ".compressed" file it will really be "tar.gz" (by default, }~ ".compressed" is in most ways the same as "tar.Z"). }~ }~ WARNING: If you change your WM compression to use gzip, make sure }~ that you rename the files to "foo.tar.gz" when you NeXTMail them to }~ someone, because if they do not have the WM using gzip to uncompress, }~ it will not work properly. I avoid this problem by an "at" script }~ which renames all my ".compressed" files to ".tar.gz" files. }~ }~ Even if you do not change your Compression to gzip (which I think is }~ silly, since it seems to work so much better than regular }~ compression), you can change your UNcompress to gzip (which will }~ uncompress most forms of compression }~ }~ These are the dwrites to make WM use GZIP for compression: }~ dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip }~ dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes }~ }~ This is the dwrite to make WM use GUNZIP for Decompression: }~ dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip OR... You can add a Terminal.app service to gzip a selection, and/or to convert compressed files to .tgz (or the longer .tar.gz)... GUnzip. /usr[/local]/bin/gunzip %s GZip /usr[/local]/bin/gzip -9 %s GNUtar /usr/bin/gnutar -czf %p %s GNU-Untar /usr/bin/gnutar -xzpf %s Leave & Compress /usr/bin/gnutar -cZf %p %s Which do not remove the original (unlike Workspace). The %p causes a dialog window to pop up for edit of the commandline. Replace the %p with the desired filename. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Message-ID: <Oct4.204557.54609@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 20:45:57 GMT References: <Cx5KFL.19H@txnews.amd.com> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <Cx5KFL.19H@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> tennant@alph.msfc.nasa.gov (Allyn > Tennant) writes: > > In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu > > (Rod Ragner) writes: > > > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > > > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! > > > > Hey NeXT, please fix this! Jayson has made it very clear that .. > > Say, Allyn. > > How much did you pay for NewsGrazer? > > Get it? > -- Besides, crashes greatly diminish if you simply turn off automatic sorting (in Preferences...). I have left it running for many days without a crash (there *are* other bugs, but this is the biggest/common one). If you want a newsgroup sorted, wait until all the subject lines are loaded, and then hit Group->Sort By Title. Same for "Catch up". It works for me, at least. How can people complain about free software? I say, thanks Jayson. -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:11:25 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36sgdt$e7@news.cs.brandeis.edu> References: <36hiaf$qm3@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> In article <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > >If there are any SUCCESS stories, or fast-scripts that simplify this process >and will make the move from 3.2 to 3.3 any simpler, I too would LOVE to hear >it. > Following up to the thread I started, I just wanted to say that the upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2 (black hardware) went quite smoothly -- all of my software appears to still work (knock, knock), users are still intact, etc. In my case, Upgrade.app seems to have performed admirably! One correspondent (thanks kris! :) suggested saving a copy of the DSP-aware Mandelbrot.app before performing the upgrade; other than that, nothing seems to have been trashed. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 5 Oct 1994 00:27:15 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36srt3$osj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <36sgdt$e7@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <36sgdt$e7@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: > I just wanted to say that the > upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2 (black hardware) went quite smoothly > One correspondent (thanks kris! :) suggested saving a copy of the > DSP-aware Mandelbrot.app before performing the upgrade; other than > that, nothing seems to have been trashed. I'll bet that your AppleTalk package disappeared too. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: 5 Oct 1994 02:36:05 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36t3el$9pb@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: -> Is Pencom still supporting co-Xist ? I asked them about a HP-PA version, -> but didn't get any answer yet. Since it's quite time-critical for us, -> perhaps anybody else knows how to contact them about co-Xist/HPPA ? I received email from them a few days ago. They expect a beta release mid-month, followed by a single arch production release, followed by a triple-fat version. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: MailCall.app for NS/Intel?? Message-ID: <thompsonCx65AF.8Fv@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 22:03:50 GMT Hi. I got MailCall.app from orst, but it's black only. I'd like to run it on white. Does anyone know who the author is or if the source is avail. etc.? I know I can accomplish pretty much the same thing with procmail, but MailCall would be better ;) thank you, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Message-ID: <Cx6GxL.Byz@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <3680h8$j97@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 02:15:20 GMT Chip Sieglinger writes >A discussion I had today with Frame Technologies left me with the distinct >impression that FrameMaker 3.0, running on NS 3.2 (Motorola) would cause some >relatively serious problems....so much so that they felt it a necessity for me >to upgrade to FM 3.2. Sounds simple, particularly in that they have a special >offer on the table right now. $495 vs the normal $795. Such a deal! > >Did I get bum scoop on this issue? Anyone have any problems with the setup I've >described? Where's the $495 in value for the new release (other than NSFIP >support)? There are a number of people here who successfully use Frame 3.0.1 on NEXTSTEP 3.2 with no (or at least pretty few) problems. -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu (John E. McPherson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Software for the NSFIP and serial driver Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 18:24:37 Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: WORLD Message-ID: <mcphers7.95.0012693B@studentm.msu.edu>
From: mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu (John E. McPherson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there sharware InterNet Software and serial drivers for NSFIP Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 18:31:35 Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: World Message-ID: <mcphers7.96.001286F1@studentm.msu.edu> I bought NeXTStep for the intel when version 3.1 came out and got the free upgrade to 3.2. I was really disapointed that it did not come with a serial driver at that time. I didn't have the measley $150.00 or so to buy NXfax or some other comm program that came with a driver. I use the net so much that I eventually reformatted and dumped NeXTStep. That was about a year ago and I have been thinking of reinstalling 3.2. Has anyone seen a serial driver or shareware SLIP programs for NeXTStep or am I doomed forever to use DOS? Thanks!! John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martin Lettau) Subject: NS on Dell Pentium - HELP! Message-ID: <1994Oct4.170038.27754@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:00:38 GMT Hi folks, I am having trouble installin NS on a Dell Omniplex 590 Pentium machine. If anybody has installed NS successfully on such a machine, I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Martin Lettau
From: jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for the NeXT??? Date: 5 Oct 1994 10:02:32 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Message-ID: <36ttjo$c4q@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <1994Oct4.133303.22081@wmichgw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Try this one: ftp.cs.orst.edu:/software/NeXT/binaries/games/Doom1_2_FAT.compressed -- -------------------------------------------- Jukka Tainio jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi http://pc-next.vitech.fi/~jtainio/index.html --------------------------------------------
From: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how to use nonNeXT-sounds? Date: 30 Sep 1994 16:18:56 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <36hdpg$ojs@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> References: <1994Sep27.083034.883@mjw.octagon.de> In article <1994Sep27.083034.883@mjw.octagon.de>, Manfred W"uhr <mane@mjw.octagon.de> wrote: >I have some sound-files sampled on a sun, that I need now on my NeXT. >Is it possible to convert them, if yes: how? > >Thanks in advance, >--- >Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de (NeXTmail OK) Get the shareware program called SOX. You can convert to .au and rename to .snd.... Gel -- ******************************************************************************* Gilles Khouzam, McGill University, Montreal, Canada (gel@cs.mcgill.ca) If I ever become so pathetic as to listen to country music, please SHOOT ME!!!
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DEL/BS keys in EMACS for NSFIP Date: 05 Oct 94 12:41:45 Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <ried.94Oct5124145@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Folks, May be a very simple question to advanced EMACS users. I'm running Emacs for NextStep on a Intel-Machine and I want to user the Backspace and the delete key as usually used with DOS-Editors. This ist according to the two EMACS-functions delete-backward-char and delete-char. So in my opinion there are only two points to customize the keyboard-interpretation of my 102-key german keyboard. 1. the NS-keymapping, e.g. File /NextLibrary/Keyboards/German.keymapping the double-click starts Keyboard.app from /NextDeveloper/Demos. There the keycodes can be linked to Ascii-Code or NS-Events. I have linked the Backspace-key to Ascii BS and the Delete to ascii DEL. 2. the ~/.emacs file There one can link the Ascii-codes to Emacs-functions. I tried thinks like (global-set-key [?\C-h] 'delete-backward-char) (global-set-key [DEL] 'delete-char) But the DEL-key is still behaving like the backspace-key. I think it is an EMACS-problem as the debug-function (defun see-chars() "Displays characters typed, terminated by a 3s timeout" (interactive) (let ((chars "") (inhibit-quit t)) (message "Enter key, wait 3s.") (while (not (sit-for 3)) (setq chars (concat chars (list (read-char))) quit-flag nil)) (message "Characters entered: %s" (key-description chars)))) is well distinguishing between the Ctrl-H and DEL-Ascii-codes. Maybe NS can link the Ctrl-d sequence to the DELETE-key (1) or EMACS can see the NS-Delete-Event (2). Any hints ? stef
From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Lin Heng Yi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help running SLIP with TIA Date: 5 Oct 1994 12:32:32 GMT Organization: HiNet Message-ID: <36u6d0$2du@serv.hinet.net> Keywords: SLIP, TIA Hi everyone, Yesterday I purchased a license key to run TIA, The Internet Adaptor. In all aspects this works fine on the host side (Sparc SunOS 4.1.3). My problem is configuring TransSys DialUpIP (SLIP_920904) on black hardware (NS3.0) to run smoothly with TIA. I got so far as to have the SLIP script connect with TIA on the host side, i.e. I invoke tia on the shell account and the client SLIP connects. However, after the connection it hangs, e.g. telnet times out, nslookup doesn't find the nameserver (which is already assigned in /etc/resolv.conf. Besides the docs that come with TIA, TransSys DialUpIP, I've also followed instructions in next_slip_digex.readme.rtfd, found on ftp.cs.orst.edu. If you have successfully installed a similar setup and could point out some common pitfalls, it would be much appreciated. If there is enough demand, I will compile a working instruction for the group. Again, the host where I have the shell account is Sparc SunOS 4.1.3, my client NeXT is '040, NS3.0 and SLIP_920904, ZyXEL with hardware handshaking cable. Thanks. -- Heng-Yi Lin Young Ray Co., Ltd. hlin@hntp2.hinet.net Post Office Box 122 idps49@shts.seed.net.tw Fengyuan, Taiwan 420 72701.3247@compuserve.com Republic of China
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: Summary of comments on SLIP for NeXT Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Oct5090708@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:07:07 GMT The mob has spoken. Of the 8 or so people who responded to my request for recommendations for a SLIP package for NeXTSTEP, everyone recommended the TransSys PNI software. The most frequently voiced comments were that it's free (good reason) but difficult to set up (maybe challenging is a better word than difficult). Judge for yourself. I'm including the README file from ftp.cs.orst.edu. Just in case there's any confusion, I have no connection whatsoever with Louie Mamakos or TransSys, Inc. > TransSys PNI 1.11 release > 13 August 1994 > > > Software and Documentation is > Copyright 1993, 1994 by TransSys, Inc. and Louis A. Mamakos > All rights reserved. > > WHAT IT IS > ---------- > > This software distribution is the first (non-beta) release of the > TransSys PNI Software package. TransSys PNI is a very flexible and > configurable networking product for Motorola- and Intel-based NeXTSTEP > platforms. TransSys PNI is intended to be run on Release 3.1 and 3.2 > NeXTSTEP systems. TransSys PNI will allow your NeXTSTEP system to > communicate with remote systems using SLIP (Serial Line IP) over > serial ports and other virtual devices. It has sophisticated packet > filtering abilities as well to control access to various services on > your system. > > There are three versions of the software available: > > PNI-SLIP -- A freely available version which implements SLIP. This > version is available both as a demo of the software and as a public > service to the NeXT community - NEXTSTEP systems should have a > SLIP solution available free of charge, as do many other platforms. > > PNI-BASIC -- a commercial version of the software which implements > SLIP (as above) as well as CSLIP, which is SLIP with TCP Header > Compression. > > PNI-PRO -- a commercial version, which, along with the PNI-BASIC > features, also includes IP packet filtering (including idle link > timeouts) and support for IP tunnels. > > See the file 'ORDER', included in the demo distributions, for detailed > ordering information. TransSys recommends that only those users that > are already familiar with SLIP and IP networking in general attempt to > install and use the package. Of course, it costs nothing to try to > install the demo software, however, limited support is available. > > > RANDOM TOPICS > ------------- > > There are plans for an HP-PA version, but no estimated date for such a > version is available. For now, this package on runs on Intel and > Motorola based 3.1 and 3.2 NeXTSTEP systems. There are reports that > it runs on the first 3.3 pre-release kernel. I expect that version > PNI 1.11 will *not* run on the released 3.3 kernel which will include > IP multicast support and likely different kernel interfaces. > > This version doesn't implement dial-on-demand, though PNI-PRO can > implement idle link timeouts using a very precise packet filter > specificiation. > > > WHERE YOU CAN GET IT > -------------------- > > A demo version of TransSys PNI is available via anonymous FTP from: > > FTP.UU.NET: /vendor/TransSys/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz > sonata.cc.purdue.edu: /pub/next/submissions/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz > cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/submissions/TransSys-PNI-1.11.tar.gz > > the copy on FTP.UU.NET will only exist until the next release is > available, and should be conidered to be the definitive version; the > ones on the Purdue and Oregon State archives will likely move to their > final resting places fairly quickly. Archive maintainers: please > remove any earlier versions you might have. > > The base-SLIP only version is free of charge, just like TransSys > DialUp-IP. Other capabilities (CSLIP, filtering, tunnels, etc) will > be licensed at an additional charge. > > Included is a SLIP-only license key string with no expiration date. > You can request a demo license key to enable CSLIP, packet filtering > and tunnels by sending a request to pni-demo@TransSys.COM requesting a > demonstration license key. > > The demo version can be upgraded to other functions by purchasing a > license key which will enable the additional features. Existing PNI > beta test users can use the license key string: > > jA@KiYiHhm6EgoKDruI > > with release 1.11 until they make arrangements to purchase a license > key string if desired. This license key string expires on October 13. > > Users of TransSys DialUp-IP who have purchased a license for the CSLIP > version (prior to August 1, 1994) will have a free (or nominal cost if > media is required) upgrade to TransSys PNI. > > > MORE INFORMATION > ---------------- > > Please read the doc/pni.ps.Z file which contains the documentation for > TransSys PNI. You should uncompress it and either print the file > (about 90 pages) or view it using the NeXTSTEP Preview application. > There are also a set of ASCII files (in doc/info-files.tar.Z) which > can be extracted and read using the GNU emacs "info" hypertext package > or by just paging through it with a text editor. > > Alternatively, if you have Internet connectivity and a WorldWideWeb > browser application, you can examine the URL > > http://WWW.TransSys.COM/TransSys/pni-info.html > > to examine the manual (and other information) without having to fetch > the entire package. This WWW service is experimental, and may change > without notice. > > Additional information on TCL and TCL extensions are available in the > files doc/Tcl.ps.Z and doc/TclX.ps.Z. > > Comments, suggestions and feature requests can be sent via email to > pni@TransSys.COM. Users of the PNI package that would like to be > notified of new release and other occasional information should also > drop a message to pni@TransSys.COM to get added to a distribution list > for announcements. > > Louis Mamakos > TransSys, Inc. > > ($Id: README,v 1.9 1994/08/14 01:39:52 louie Exp $) Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan -- Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan
From: rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca (Rob Wylie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 5 Oct 94 09:07:16 Organization: National Research Council of Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROB.94Oct5090716@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca> References: <36sgdt$e7@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <36srt3$osj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: takken@leland.stanford.edu's message of 5 Oct 1994 00:27:15 GMT > I'll bet that your AppleTalk package disappeared too. > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu More than just disappeared, even had he saved it, it would no longer work. Someone said that atalkd/ashared from 3.0 worked under 3.2 if you also installed 3.0 printing software (lpd, I guess). Anybody know if this is true? yrs, Rob Wylie rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help needed for PPP package Date: 5 Oct 1994 15:22:41 GMT Organization: GlobalCom Message-ID: <36ugc1$85j@goodnews.globalcom.net> I need some help scripting the PPP 2.1.2 package on ftp.duq.edu to connect to my Internet provider. The docs are quite sparse, and I am (unfortunately) no expert, though I do understand TCPIP,etc. reasonably well. Can anyone help? This is all that is keeping me from never having to boot into DOS/Windows ever again! Thanks Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax) Subject: Reso location... Message-ID: <1994Oct5.152626.2449@client45.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Originator: c92kl@client45.comlab Sender: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax) Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:26:26 GMT Could anyone please tell me where to find a copy of the ResoLab program for the Next? I believe it may be on a CCRMA ftp site or MIT ... Please e-mail me if yo know many thanks Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font Bitmap files, is there a source? Message-ID: <1994Oct5.112546.35103@hulaw1.harvard.edu> From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah) Date: 5 Oct 94 11:25:45 EDT Keywords: font, bepf, etc. I've successfully converted a bunch of my Mac postscript fonts to NeXT, and, seeing them on the screen at small point sizes, I wish I could convert the Mac bitmap versions of 9, 10, and 12 as well. Is there any way to do this, or, can I get the bitmap files from Adobe? I've found a program to convert Mac Bitmaps to Type 3 fonts, but nothing to convert Mac bitmaps to NeXT .bepf files. Thanks a bunch Sean -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio cello@mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip for Workspace Manager Date: 5 Oct 1994 15:49:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <36uhul$44l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Oct4.123831.1012@ToTSySSoft.com> In article <1994Oct4.123831.1012@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: > You can add a Terminal.app service to gzip a selection, and/or to convert > compressed files to .tgz (or the longer .tar.gz)... > > GUnzip. > /usr[/local]/bin/gunzip %s > GZip > /usr[/local]/bin/gzip -9 %s > GNUtar > /usr/bin/gnutar -czf %p %s > GNU-Untar > /usr/bin/gnutar -xzpf %s > Leave & Compress > /usr/bin/gnutar -cZf %p %s > > > Which do not remove the original (unlike Workspace). The %p causes a > dialog window to pop up for edit of the commandline. Replace the %p with > the desired filename. > I like to use an existing idle shell window for my Terminal Services so that new shell windows aren't created when a Terminal Service is invoked. I also like to be aware of the progress of potentially time-consuming processes like compression, so I don't want these processes done in the background. And I want my compressed file to end up in the same directory as the file or directory being compressed. So I've "embellished" Bruce's Terminal Services as follows (note that I use bash which uses Bourne shell syntax, so C shell users would need to use "setenv filepath %s"). This approach temporarily changes directory while compression is occuring but leaves the directory in which the Terminal shell started unchanged when compression has finished. (filepath=%s; file=`basename $filepath`; cd `expr "$filepath" : '\(.*\)/.*'`; tar -cvzf $file.tar.gz $file) Fairly complex shell scripts can be installed as Terminal Services even including newlines, so Terminal Services can be quite powerful. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 5 Oct 1994 17:03:35 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36um97$2l7@pdx1.i.net> References: <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> I have been using NewsGrazer 2.0 rev 74 on Intel for quite some time and it never crashes.. I did try 3.0 rev 75 and had the same problems so I went back to 2.0 rev 74. If anyone is interested in it let me know and I can send it to you.. -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications steve@eps.com
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newsgrazer v75 sometimes doesn't prefetch article titles! Date: 5 Oct 1994 17:40:56 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <36uof8$jb7@cs.ubc.ca> When I run NG over SLIP/NNTP, it takes a long time to load and prefetch the article titles. No problem, I just launch it and wait 15 minutes or so before I read news and once it's prefetched article titles for all newsgroups, everything is ready to go and reading news is fast. However, sometimes articles DON'T GET PREFETCHED! Only the first newsgroup in my list gets prefetched. This appears to happen more often when I make another application active while I'm waiting, but I think it's happened to me even when NewsGrazer is the active app. Does anyone know what causes NG to stop prefetching titles? Or how to get it to continue? This is far more annoying than the "catchup-crash" bug which is easy to avoid. -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: SLIP for NS/FIP Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Wed, 05 Oct 1994 11:56:52 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct05.115652.21234@cyantic.com> What is the current recommendation for SLIP/PPP for NS/FIP? We would like to put up a remote site for testing an application and am using a Dell Optiplex 486. I'd guess the serial port will be a bottleneck, but that should be ok just for testing. Please respond via email. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need IC-circuit symbols for Diagram2! Date: 5 Oct 1994 17:49:13 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <36uoup$7jp@due.uninett.no> I use Diagram to draw electronic diagrams, and in addition to the ordinary shematic symbols and logic gates that I have, I also need circuit symbols for popular IC's like the 555-timer common 74XX's, Op-amps etc. etc. If you have such circuit symbols that you have made yourself of you have found somewhere, I would be glad if you want to sheer them with me. I read NEXTMail, so you can send your entire palette if you want. Symbols in eps format is also fine since Diagram can inport these. Thanks in advance. eystein -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE Tlf: 57826600 NORWAY Telefaks: 57826830 Ph# +47 57826600 F|retrekkjer NeXTMail Telefax +47 57826830 NeXTMail preferred _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there sharware InterNet Software and serial drivers for NSFIP Date: 5 Oct 1994 11:25:33 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Distribution: World Message-ID: <36u2fd$bjk@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> References: <mcphers7.96.001286F1@studentm.msu.edu> Keywords: SLIP PPP serial Originator: hannes@esprit In article <mcphers7.96.001286F1@studentm.msu.edu> mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu (John E. McPherson) writes: > I bought NeXTStep for the intel when version 3.1 came out and got the free > upgrade to 3.2. I was really disapointed that it did not come with a serial > driver at that time. I didn't have the measley $150.00 or so to buy NXfax or > some other comm program that came with a driver. I use the net so much that I > eventually reformatted and dumped NeXTStep. That was about a year ago and I > have been thinking of reinstalling 3.2. Has anyone seen a serial driver or > shareware SLIP programs for NeXTStep or am I doomed forever to use DOS? > > Thanks!! > > John How about TransSys PNI, a SLIP (freely available) or CSLIP (commercial) package for black & white NEXTSTEP machines. There are also some PPP packages around (public domain, shareware, ...), so the communication software is not the problem. But the serial-driver will be... you will at least have to get the Mux driver. (don't know details about that - I'm on black hardware) ________________________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail welcome)
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there sharware InterNet Software and serial drivers for NSFIP Date: 5 Oct 1994 11:26:13 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Distribution: World Message-ID: <36u2gl$bjp@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> References: <mcphers7.96.001286F1@studentm.msu.edu> Keywords: SLIP PPP serial Originator: hannes@esprit In article <mcphers7.96.001286F1@studentm.msu.edu> mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu (John E. McPherson) writes: > I bought NeXTStep for the intel when version 3.1 came out and got the free > upgrade to 3.2. I was really disapointed that it did not come with a serial > driver at that time. I didn't have the measley $150.00 or so to buy NXfax or > some other comm program that came with a driver. I use the net so much that I > eventually reformatted and dumped NeXTStep. That was about a year ago and I > have been thinking of reinstalling 3.2. Has anyone seen a serial driver or > shareware SLIP programs for NeXTStep or am I doomed forever to use DOS? > > Thanks!! > > John How about TransSys PNI, a SLIP (freely available) or CSLIP (commercial) package for black & white NEXTSTEP machines. There are also some PPP packages around (public domain, shareware, ...), so the communication software is not the problem. But the serial-driver will be... you will at least have to get the Mux driver. (don't know details about that - I'm on black hardware) ________________________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail welcome)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help running SLIP with TIA Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:50:06 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wiYjJSC00WBNA5hcNN@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <36u6d0$2du@serv.hinet.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Oct-94 Help running SLIP with TIA by Lin Heng Yi@hntp2.hinet. > Again, the host where I have the shell account is Sparc SunOS 4.1.3, my > client NeXT is '040, NS3.0 and SLIP_920904, ZyXEL with hardware > handshaking cable. You might wish to verify your routing (netstat -r, or maybe netstat -rn if your nameserver is hosed), and that you can get direct connectivity to the Sun machine by /etc/ping'ing on the NeXT to the numeric address of the Sun. I have a similiar configuration dialing up to an Annex server, also with a local ethernet connecting to a small network of machines not on the internet. 81% netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface ANNEX-MCN.ANDREW CSWIGER.SLIP.ANDRE UH 1 1057 slip0 localhost localhost UH 2 772 lo0 CSWIGER.SLIP.AND localhost UH 0 640 lo0 default ANNEX-MCN.ANDREW.C UG 2 44196 slip0 192.9.200 cswiger U 8 9659 en0 82% netstat -rn Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 128.2.232.120 128.2.116.84 UH 1 1057 slip0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 772 lo0 128.2.116.84 127.0.0.1 UH 0 640 lo0 default 128.2.232.120 UG 2 44197 slip0 192.9.200 192.9.200.1 U 8 9667 en0 Note that 192.9.200.x is the 'default address' that Sun recommends for non-internet connected machines. I believe this address is also in use on the net, but that's fine by me, since it means that my local machines are from unreachable outside of the machine running SLIP (ie, a tolerably secure firewall setup, since the machine running SLIP has been made pretty secure). -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Amazing Edu Prices from Lighthouse Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:55:14 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Distribution: world Message-ID: <941005215514.2161AACUG.malc@jeeves> References: <36h90f$njg@crcnis1.unl.edu> <36oi91$chs@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Sorry to ask this if you've already mentioned it - but how much is > Lighthouse charging for all these? 7*$25=$175?? > Yes. As the original poster I was amazed too -- I haven't got round to buying yet (I'm waiting for the CD-ROM version to come out), but will do. Manuals are extra, at $30 apiece. If you're in the UK, you can contact P&L systems -- Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> Note, however, that the prices are for *individual* **education** customers only (sorry Charles!). Copies bought by Faculty / whatever cost $75 each. Now if only Frame would follow suit! Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Fortran for NEXTSTEP on HP PA-RISC Date: 5 Oct 1994 19:15:39 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <36uu0r$7dl@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: HP, Fortran Hello, Well, the saga continues. I just heard about another company that might be interested in porting their Fortran compiler to NEXTSTEP on HP PA-RISC hardware. Today I spoke to someone at DIAB Data. They have ported Fortran to NEXTSTEP on Motorola (I don't know about Intel). If you are interested in a port of Fortran to NS/HP, please take a moment and write and/or call: Steve Koepp, sjk@ddi.com, 415-571-1700 and let him know that you are interested. The good news is that if they decide to do the port, it would not take very long (just a matter of weeks). The bad news is that the price will probably be higher than we would like. He said their current "package" costs in the neighborhood of $3,000. He said he would work with us, though, and that they offer group discounts and educational discounts (the latter was 30%, I believe). Gregg =========================== Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov ===========================
From: rragner@wallaby.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I remove HP from Triple-FAT Applications? Date: 5 Oct 1994 22:08:26 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <36v84q$ae0@news.iastate.edu> I have tried using the lipo program to extract the hppa architecture from Triple-FAT applications (on both NeXT and Intel), but it refuses to work! Is there a newer version of lipo available which will permit me to remove the HP PA-RISC code from applications? Note: This is not a problem when installing packages; only when applications are distributed as .app and tarred. Strangely enough, it appears that you have to have an HP PA-RISC machine to remove that architecture from applications... -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Font Bitmap files, is there a source? In-Reply-To: cello@mario.harvard.edu's message of 5 Oct 94 11:25:45 EDT Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct5150536@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <1994Oct5.112546.35103@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 22:05:36 GMT Sean Anthony Varah writes: Sean> I've successfully converted a bunch of my Mac postscript fonts to Sean> NeXT, and, seeing them on the screen at small point sizes, I wish I Sean> could convert the Mac bitmap versions of 9, 10, and 12 as well. Is Sean> there any way to do this, or, can I get the bitmap files from Adobe? Sean> I've found a program to convert Mac Bitmaps to Type 3 fonts, but Sean> nothing to convert Mac bitmaps to NeXT .bepf files. Try finding something that can convert to BDF. That's an intermidiate format that "prebuild" on the NeXT can snarf. Note that bitmaps you snarf from Adobe will probably not help, unless you've got clone fonts that are poorly done (or they were - shudder - TrueType fonts, so that hinting got lost in the conversion). Most of Adobe's bitmap files are created with ATM - our fonts rasterize well enough and there are so many of them that the effort to improve them would be large, and the improvement would be minimal. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xox doesn't work Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:28:54 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <36omd6$ire@core.symnet.net> Hi, I ftped the Xox.app game from ftp.cs.orst.edu and got the following errors when I tried to run it: Oct 3 05:30:44 tron Xox[392]: rld(): /LocalApps/Games/xoxFat.940728/Xox.app/CommonEffects.XoXo/CommonEffects bad magic number (not a Mach-O file) Oct 3 05:30:45 tron Xox[392]: Couldn't find SpaxeWars in bundle for /LocalApps/Games/xoxFat.940728/Xox.app/SpaxeWars.XoX Oct 3 05:30:48 tron Xox[393]: Error loading /LocalApps/Games/xoxFat.940728/Xox.app/CommonEffects.XoXo/CommonEffects Oct 3 05:30:48 tron Xox[393]: rld(): /LocalApps/Games/xoxFat.940728/Xox.app/CommonEffects.XoXo/CommonEffects bad magic number (not a Mach-O file) Oct 3 05:30:49 tron Xox[393]: Couldn't find SpaxeWars in bundle for /LocalApps/Games/xoxFat.940728/Xox.app/SpaxeWars.XoX Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm running NS3.0 on an NeXT monoStation. Thanks for any help, Steve
From: wlod@mcs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsgrazer v75 sometimes doesn't prefetch article titles! Date: 5 Oct 1994 23:08:04 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <36vbkl$o07@News1.mcs.com> References: <36uof8$jb7@cs.ubc.ca> In article <36uof8$jb7@cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes: > > > When I run NG over SLIP/NNTP, it takes a long time to load and prefetch > the article titles. No problem, I just launch it and wait 15 minutes or > so before I read news and once it's prefetched article titles for all > newsgroups, everything is ready to go and reading news is fast. > > However, sometimes articles DON'T GET PREFETCHED! Only the first > newsgroup in my list gets prefetched. This appears to happen more often > when I make another application active while I'm waiting, but I think > it's happened to me even when NewsGrazer is the active app. > > Does anyone know what causes NG to stop prefetching titles? Or how to get > it to continue? This is far more annoying than the "catchup-crash" bug > which is easy to avoid. > I don't know the reason why, but I do know that I used to experienced the same problem until a few days ago. I replaced NS's serial driver with Mark Salyzyn's amazing Mux and yowie what a difference. Thanks Mark! Not to slight Jayson - much appreciation to you too! On start up, I can now slide NewsGrazer's window way off to the side while I work with other apps and NewsGrazer doesn't die off on me. In the past, If I didn't keep NewsGrazer the active app, or at least touch it every now and again - it would go off into a deep sleep and nothing would wake it into finishing it's load. Had related problems with OmniWeb also. Mux cleared 'em up. Did I thank Omnigroup yet? Or Louis for PNI? And I'd also like to thank Lighthouse for their exceptional edu discount, and me mudder and me fadder who made it all possible... Anyway, I don't know the exact reason NewsGrazer - or OmniWeb for that matter - degenerated on what I thought was my fairly fast slip link, but with Mux now in place, my modem lights blink and blaze and NewsGrazer and OmniWeb no longer flake out on me. The difference is truly amazing! Actually though, this does make some kind of hazy sense. In another thread someone had mentioned that mach's scheduler - least as found in NS - is preemptive as oppose to round robin. You snooze you lose. And once you've lost - that's it. Flaky things tend to happen. I know that before I installed Mux, making some other app active over NewsGrazer (or OmniWeb) used to cause my modem lights to pause for a noticeable amount of time before they'd start up again - if they'd start up again. Now with Mux...well you get the idea. -- --Steve Wlodkowski wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed)
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xox doesn't work Date: 5 Oct 1994 23:45:17 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <36vdqd$156@rosie.next.com> References: <36omd6$ire@core.symnet.net> In article <36omd6$ire@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: ] I ftped the Xox.app game from ftp.cs.orst.edu and got the following ] errors when I tried to run it: <errors deleted> ] Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? ] I'm running NS3.0 on an NeXT monoStation. Steve, There's a bug in NEXTSTEP 3.0 that prevents you from loading multi-architecture ("fat") bundles. The XoX distribution is fat, and it loads a number of bundles, so they fail to load on 3.0. You have a couple of options: * get the source from the same archive site and compile it youself. It will be built "thin", so it will work no problem. * "thin" the binaries yourself. I think there's a free program called MetroSuction floating around the net somewhere that should do what you want. * upgrade to 3.2. The bug was fixed in NEXTSTEP 3.1, so any release after that won't have the problem. Hope that helps, Erik
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to use Omniweb? Date: 5 Oct 1994 17:23:50 -0600 Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc Message-ID: <36vci6$cm5@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Well, I have OmniWeb, but I'd like to know, HOWINHELL do you use the damn thing?!?! I dunno, maybe just mine came with nearly zero documentation, but I can't figure it out. I've never used Mosaic or any program like it. Any help would be appreciated. I have a NeXT workstation, original black hardware. I'm also running Microphone II, if that makes any difference. Thanks! ============================Jon Sacharuk================================ I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -Jon Sacharuk +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca++++++++++++++++++++ --
From: tennant@alph.msfc.nasa.gov (Allyn Tennant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 6 Oct 1994 00:53:44 GMT Organization: NASA/MSFC Message-ID: <36vhqo$m4b@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> References: <Cx5KFL.19H@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cx5KFL.19H@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > > Say, Allyn. > > How much did you pay for NewsGrazer? > > Get it? > -- > personal opinions Software that irritates users, hurts NeXT. Understand?
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xox doesn't work Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:09:22 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <36q6fi$at0@core.symnet.net> References: <36omd6$ire@core.symnet.net> The problem was NS3.0 - it doesn't run FAT binaries. Thanks to Eric Kay at NeXT for a quick reply, Steve
From: brent@fourier.bme.med.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I remove HP from Triple-FAT Applications? Date: 6 Oct 1994 01:52:37 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <36vl95$7ln@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <36v84q$ae0@news.iastate.edu> Rod Ragner writes > I have tried using the lipo program to extract the hppa architecture > from Triple-FAT applications (on both NeXT and Intel), but it > refuses to work! Having just asked the same question myself, I think this is an appropriate time to summarize the responses. (1) MetroSuction 1.1 doesn't work. (2) TickleServices (Services->Lipo->Thin For Current) does. -- Brent Swekla "Sleep furiously." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca PGP public key available on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw) Subject: Looking for a 3270 emulator for NS3.2 Intel Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 04:06:10 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group The Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance.
From: rwilson@localhost (Robert K. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help running SLIP with TIA Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 6 Oct 1994 04:51:48 GMT Message-ID: <36vvp4$i32@tequesta.gate.net> References: <wiYjJSC00WBNA5hcNN@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Oct-94 Help running SLIP : with TIA by Lin Heng Yi@hntp2.hinet. : > Again, the host where I have the shell account is Sparc SunOS 4.1.3, my : > client NeXT is '040, NS3.0 and SLIP_920904, ZyXEL with hardware : > handshaking cable. : You might wish to verify your routing (netstat -r, or maybe netstat -rn : if your nameserver is hosed), and that you can get direct connectivity : to the Sun machine by /etc/ping'ing on the NeXT to the numeric address : of the Sun. You can also issue the command tia -address to verify your routing. -Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Dead emacs Message-ID: <Cx78K0.1G8@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <36p1ef$spi@edwin.bga.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:11:59 GMT In article <36p1ef$spi@edwin.bga.com> btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) writes: > A couple of days ago I was firing up my emacs and it died with a > > <bill /Net/other/Users/bill other> emacs > > Fatal error (10).Bus error > I suggest checking/reinstalling /usr/lib/emacs/ (or whereever your emacs configuration files lie). Maybe something got corrupted there (I remember emacs quit with 'Bus error' after having removed some obvoiusly important file in /usr/lib/emacs/etc) -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@localhost.gw.umn.edu (Operator) Subject: X-window in NeXXT Message-ID: <Cx8MDB.5By@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 06:07:43 GMT I am planning to purchase an X-window for my turbo NeXT. Can anyone tell me which is good to use or the price. Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: NS3.0J and WriteNow ?? Message-ID: <1994Oct4.222902.649@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <36qban$7ui@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 22:29:02 GMT In article <36qban$7ui@news.mic.ucla.edu> Robert Dennis <rad@cse.ucla.edu> writes: > I have Nextstep 3.0J running on my 25 MHz cube. I was hoping that I > could use something other than Edit to do text editing and layout. Has > anyone been able to use WriteNow under NS3.0J? What other commercial > apps will accept Kanji input? Any help and ideas would be great. If I > get a response I will happily summarize for the group. > > sincerely > rad there s no "seiyou" commercial WP that works under NSx.xJ. In order to work, your app must use NeXT Text Object (for exemple Diagram). And each commercial app have its own Text Object... If you want a japanese WP, you must buy one in Japan from Canon : Fuzukue, JE-Pen super, Documentalist, PRESBOX for NeXT or Writing Staff PRO... I have the same problem as you :-( PS : you can use the Draw demo. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: DOOM for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <thompsonCx864y.HrA@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <1994Oct4.133303.22081@wmichgw> <36ttjo$c4q@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 00:17:22 GMT Also, Omni is apparently working on Doom II for NS.. Eric
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip for Workspace Manager Message-ID: <1994Oct6.080618.556@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 6 Oct 94 08:06:18 JST References: <rbzCwy5D0.G6A@netcom.com> Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] In article <rbzCwy5D0.G6A@netcom.com>, rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: > I am looking for an application (inspector, bundle, etc...) that would > allow me to handle GNU zipped (.gz) files from the Workspace Manager > just like I handle .Z and .compressed files. > > Currently when I select a .Z file, a special icon is displayed. I can > double-click on the icon and then click to uncompress the file. > > With a .compressed file, a special icon is also displayed. I can > double-click on the icon and then click to uncompress the file. > > With a .gz file, I get the default edit document icon. If I double-click > on the icon, it just brings the document up in edit (as I would > expect it to). > Opener.app (ftp.cs.orst.edu) does all this and more, even allows you to create hqx and sit files to the amazement of your Mac-owning friends! Hugh Ashton
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker 3.0 and NS 3.2? Date: 5 Oct 1994 13:18:43 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <36u93j$rvn@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <36s4lu$idj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <36s4lu$idj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > In article <36kuv9$cko@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU > (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: [...] > > Lighthouse usually has good academic discounts > > But Frame doesn't. Lighthouse is only the reseller. The academic price > for the maintenance/bug fix release is $399. Gee, what a bargain. I'll > keep using version 3.0.1, thank you. After a couple weeks of trying, I finally got a quote for a new academic copy of Frame (not an upgrade to the old version). Single user license is $745, and single user floating license is $1200. Needless to say, this insane pricing did not put a smile on my face. -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Omniweb? Date: 6 Oct 1994 12:05:55 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <370p73$26n@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <36vci6$cm5@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> In article <36vci6$cm5@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) writes: : Well, I have OmniWeb, but I'd like to know, HOWINHELL do you use the : damn thing?!?! : : ... : : -- Read the FAQ in comp.infosystems.www.user I use OmniWeb on black hardware and did the following: 1) anonymous ftp: ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/Software/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.app.tar.gz 2) Install OmniWeb.app in /LocalApps cd /LocalApps gunzip </xyz/xyz/OmniWeb.app.tar.gz | tar xf - 3) Double-klick on /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app. Thats all. We use ImageViewer to display graphics in OmniWeb _______________________________________________________ _______ /| Salto ergo sum ! / | /__|____ <afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de> / | / | * NeXT Mail ok
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-window in NeXXT Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:52:21 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <371a05$6ie@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cx8MDB.5By@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <Cx8MDB.5By@news.cis.umn.edu> root@localhost.gw.umn.edu (Operator) writes: > I am planning to purchase an X-window for my turbo NeXT. > Can anyone tell me which is good to use or the price. > Thanks in advance. Both Pencom's co-Xist ($195 base) and Intuitive's Cub'X-Windows ($250 runtime) are excellent solutions. They both are available with options like Motif and Development Tools, and they both are available from OpenSource. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for a 3270 emulator for NS3.2 Intel Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:58:10 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <371ab2$6io@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> In article <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw) writes: > The Subject line says it all. > > Thanks in advance. > Cables by Yrrid is what you need. It is available for a variety of IBM, DG, DEC and other emulations. The IBM 3270 version is $339 ($239 edu). Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I remove HP from Triple-FAT Applications? Date: 6 Oct 1994 11:08:40 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410061608.AA18777@alleg.EDU> [ This is just a repost of csn.software article #15102, which may or may not answer Rod Ragner's question. My apologies if it does not. TjL] In article <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > As always, I think the best solution is > "get TickleServices". > Once you have done that, you can use the service "Lipo/Thin > for Current" which will take everything else out but what > you need. > > You might also want to check out MetroSuction, a free > (if I remember correctly) applet that shows all the > present architectures and allows you to remove the ones > you do not want. > > Both are on the usual archives. > > These tools are fine, but if you want to do it just for now, the following will do: In a shell type lipo -thin m68k -output Foo.app/Foo Foo.app/Foo with m68k replaced by your architecture (m68k, i386, hppa) This will create a thin executable with code for just the given architecture. Hope it helps _____________________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: 6 Oct 1994 17:11:20 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <371b3o$6po@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Is Pencom still supporting co-Xist ? I asked them about a HP-PA version, > but didn't get any answer yet. Since it's quite time-critical for us, > perhaps anybody else knows how to contact them about co-Xist/HPPA ? > I had no trouble getting an answer when I called Pencom toll-free 1-800-736-2664. co-Xist for NS/HPPA should be available by late November. Because of the demand, however, they are making available a single-architecture beta. Give them a call, I'm sure they'll be more than responsive. Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Man bites dog; Pages supports Emacs keybindings ;-) Message-ID: <Cx7JJF.7B@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 16:09:14 GMT Last March, while responding to questions and comments about Pages 1.0, I said (in a posting made for me by Alex Levine, since our news system was down at the time): >Because of [market focus] and because this is, after all, the very first >release of Pages, we obviously can't and don't incorporate all desired >features from all existing products. We recognize that the withdrawal of >Frame and WP from the NEXTSTEP market has left many of you looking for a >replacement. We hope that through successive and timely updates to Pages, >and based on your feedback, we can meet your needs. However, we will >probably never support Emacs key bindings. ;-) All of you who, ah, chided me both publicly and privately for my quip can bask in the warm glow of having shaped product direction. Pages 1.5, which started shipping this week, does support Emacs keybindings. It has some other nifty features, but I'll let the press release in c.s.n.announce do the promoting. Just thought y'all would like to know. ..bruce.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bruce F. Webster | To be nameless in worthy deeds exceeds CTO, Pages Software Inc | an infamous history. bwebster@pages.com | -- Sir Thomas Browne ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does <Fax Later> work? Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:30:50 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3718nq$1o8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I have been trying to send some faxes at a later time but the fax later option in the fax panel doesn't seem to work. I thought it worked but then when I use it now it simply faxes it right away; it doesn't matter what day or time I set it. In the Fax Queue it also appears as an ASAP fax. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. --- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: satan@mit.edu (Satyen Shah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Demo Apps changing .suffixes ? Date: 6 Oct 1994 17:32:17 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Distribution: usa Message-ID: <371cb1$ok5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: TIFFany2, Eloquent, demo, suffix On our network, the sysadmin installs demo apps for users to try out. But many demo applications (e.g. TIFFany2) install themselves as a default application (e.g. for .eps and .tiff files) in every user's NeXT/suffixes3_1.m68k.wmd. First, I find it obnoxious that a demo app will make itself a default app. Second I'm curious how Installer propogates changes these changes to Users directories. Satyen Shah satan@mit.edu
From: emusser@math.macalstr.edu (Eric Musser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LAPACK for NeXT Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:44:42 GMT Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Mn Message-ID: <37161a$elf@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> Hello, I don't have a fortran compiler so I can't compile any of the LAPACK (Linear Algebra Package) source that is publically available. Does any one have the library already compiled or know of a publically available fortran 77 compiler? Thanks, E
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 4 Oct 1994 16:21:34 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <36rvee$h4a@core.symnet.net> References: <36q82f$bvd@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov> Allyn Tennant writes > (Rod Ragner) writes: > > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! Only if you haven't let it read all the titles first. There are few solutions: 1) Give it time to read the titles, then hit catch-up. 2) Change your .newsrc entry for that group by hand 3) Unsubscribe and resubscribe to the group(?) > Hey NeXT, please fix this! Why doesn't NeXT just release the source for NewsGrazer? Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: vrn@everest.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) Subject: Drivers for Adaptec 2740, 2742 SCSI Card Message-ID: <Cx9JxM.4Ms@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 18:13:28 GMT Anyone hear any word yet about when this driver will be released? I was told in late July by someone at NeXT that the driver might be around by mid Sept, but I haven't seen or heard anything since.
From: ambi@kaizen.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP-only keystring for TransSys-PNI-1.11 Date: 6 Oct 1994 18:29:46 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <371fmq$n19@news.bu.edu> Anyone have the SLIP-only keystring for TransSys PNI? The demo CSLIP license is about run out and I've tried to install the SLIP-only keystrings with no luck. If I remember right, the SLIP-only keyfile is supposed to be free and without an expiration so there shouldn't be a problem distributing it. Thanks, Mike -- Mike Amirault Kaizen Solutions, Inc. ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pitfalls in NS3.0 -> 3.2 upgrade? Date: 6 Oct 1994 19:19:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <371ij9$1pj@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> In article <36mgrc$92m@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > ... Everyone I know who has ever ugpraded OS versions using "upgrade" > has sooner or later ... given up. > > If there are any SUCCESS stories ... I too would LOVE to hear it. I have done 2.2 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 with Upgrade.app. No problem, no need to reinstall from scratch. I have hardly touched any of the system setup, but I have added lots of stuff to /usr/local/*. Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: abc@bwit248.morgan.com (Alexander Cone) Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? In-Reply-To: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 2 Oct 1994 17:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: <ABC.94Oct6143955@bwit248.morgan.com> Sender: news@is.morgan.com Organization: Morgan Stanley References: <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 18:39:55 GMT As a word of warning, I have noticed a problem with thinning triple fat packages. I have no problem running 3Fat under 3.2 on m68k/iX86 arcitectures, and also have no problems with 1Fat thin executables, BUT when I remove only one architecture, leaving a 2Fat application I find that the loadable bundles do not work (run time errors on the console). It seems that the extraction leaves the index to the architectures malformed. I would like to hear if anyone else has seen this. NOTE: this does not seem to affect palettes or app executables, only loadable bundles (which may be part of an app or a palette). This was reported to NeXT, but I do not know when they can reasonably be expected to release a fix... Alex In article <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: Path: is1.is.morgan.com!s5!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 2 Oct 1994 17:41:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 28 Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Reply-To: (Timothy J. Luoma)luomat@alleg.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: news.cs.utexas.edu In article <36fqhi$rji@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes: >swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) writes: > >>Apologies if this has been recently covered here, but... > >>Anybody know how to excise those pesky HPPA executables? >>I'm running 3.2. > As always, I think the best solution is "get TickleServices". Once you have done that, you can use the service "Lipo/Thin for Current" which will take everything else out but what you need. You might also want to check out MetroSuction, a free (if I remember correctly) applet that shows all the present architectures and allows you to remove the ones you do not want. Both are on the usual archives. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access -- .............................................................................. : Alex B. Cone "Speed Before Direction!" Morgan Stanley & Co : : abc@morgan.com (mime mail OK) abc@object.com (NeXTMail OK) : ..............................................................................
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOOM II Date: 4 Oct 1994 22:52:04 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <36smak$leh@core.symnet.net> Anyone now where the beta of DOOM II for NS might be found? Thanks for any info, Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drivers for Adaptec 2740, 2742 SCSI Card Date: 6 Oct 94 21:54:44 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.781480484@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <Cx9JxM.4Ms@news.cis.umn.edu> vrn@everest.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) writes: >Anyone hear any word yet about when this driver will be released? I was >told in late July by someone at NeXT that the driver might be around by >mid Sept, but I haven't seen or heard anything since. A driver for 2740/2840 can be found on ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Drivers/3.2_Drivers. Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: 6 Oct 1994 23:53:30 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3722lq$iu5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <36s3l3$7bj@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <371b3o$6po@potogold.rmii.com> Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: : I had no trouble getting an answer when I called Pencom toll-free : 1-800-736-2664. co-Xist for NS/HPPA should be available by late November. : Because of the demand, however, they are making available a : single-architecture beta. Give them a call, I'm sure they'll be more than : responsive. Sorry for the rude answer, but you Americans don't seem to be aware that there's life outside the U.S. An 800-number isn't toll-tree at all for us poor Europeans. In fact, any call to the U.S. is quite expensive for me, so I got used to e-mailing, and since Pencom also lists an info email address, I choose to go that way and got no answer. That's all. Oh yes, and I finally got a nice reply from Pencom to my posting in this list. Sorry if this has troubled anybody... Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinning Triple-Fat ?? Date: 7 Oct 1994 00:21:36 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <3724ag$4fu@sundog.tiac.net> References: <9410022241.AA10373@alleg.EDU> <ABC.94Oct6143955@bwit248.morgan.com> In article <ABC.94Oct6143955@bwit248.morgan.com> abc@bwit248.morgan.com (Alexander Cone) writes: >As a word of warning, I have noticed a problem with thinning triple fat >packages. I have no problem running 3Fat under 3.2 on m68k/iX86 >arcitectures, and also have no problems with 1Fat thin executables, BUT when >I remove only one architecture, leaving a 2Fat application I find that the >loadable bundles do not work (run time errors on the console). It seems that >the extraction leaves the index to the architectures malformed. I would like >to hear if anyone else has seen this. NOTE: this does not seem to affect >palettes or app executables, only loadable bundles (which may be part of an >app or a palette). > >This was reported to NeXT, but I do not know when they can reasonably be >expected to release a fix... It is fixed in 3.2/HP, and in 3.3. A couple weeks ago I posted a description of the problem and a workaround to .bugs and .programmer. You can build the bundles/relocateables on 3.2 HP in such a way to avoid the problem. Pass this on to whomever is building the bundles .. (begin old post) I have experienced a very subtle problem when building triple fat bundles/relocateables which are installed onto a 3.2 NeXT/Intel system via Installer. I thought I'd warn anyone who cares to listen, as it is likely to show up for anyone who distributes bundles. What happens is this (lipo -detailed_info reveals all): On 3.2 NeXT/Intel, the compiler/linker, typically, generates a double fat relocatable which looks like this: [ m68k chunk with four byte boundry alignment] [ i386 chunk with four byte boundry alignment] On 3.2 HP, the compiler/linker, typically, generates a triple fat relocatable which looks like this: [ m68k chunk with four byte boundry alignment] [ hppa chunk with four byte boundry alignment] [ i386 chunk with sixteen byte boundry alignment] The 3.2 HP release appears to now generate the i386 __TEXT __text section with a 16 byte boundry alignment. I don't know why. Now, there is nothing wrong with any of the above, the problem is in the Installer, or whatever the installer uses to pare down object code with, on 3.2 Intel/NeXT... If the user installs all three architectures, works. If the user installs just one architecture, works. If the user installs NeXT/HPPA, works. However, if the user installs any two architecture combination which includes Intel, the Installer generates something like: [ m68k chunk with four byte boundry alignment] [ i386 chunk with sixteen byte boundry alignment] Looks okay, but the i386 specifies 16 byte boundry alignment, and the Installer does not try to align the data on a 16 byte boundry and in most cases generates a faulty relocatable. When someone goes to use the relocatable, the rld() system issues an error like so: rld(): fat file: /Foo.bundle/Foo offset: 10196 for cputype (7) cpusubtype (3)) not aligned on it's alignment (2^4) WORKAROUND: When building triple fat bundles on 3.2 HP, add the following to your C compiler flags: -sectalign __TEXT __text 10 (10 is hex) This will force a 16 byte alignment on all the fat components, and implicitly prevent Installer from screwing up the alignment. I don't guarantee this is going to work at all, but it works for me and my 20 odd bundles. The 3.2 HP Installer appears to work properly. -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 6 Oct 1994 20:07:38 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Distribution: world Message-ID: <371lea$gd2@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <36um97$2l7@pdx1.i.net> In article <36um97$2l7@pdx1.i.net> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes: > I have been using NewsGrazer 2.0 rev 74 on Intel for quite some time and > it never crashes.. I did try 3.0 rev 75 and had the same problems so I > went back to 2.0 rev 74. If anyone is interested in it let me know and I > can send it to you.. > > > -- > Steven Kornreich > Kornreich Communications > steve@eps.com Would you send a copy to me? Mark -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- President of NCTU NeXT User Group| Tel : 886-035-712-121 ext 76403 Yi-chih, LIN ( Mark Lin ) | NeXTmail: Communication Engineering | u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University | mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw Hsinchu, Taiwan | NCTU 6 Dorm 403 Room -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: EPS Clip Art to Font question Message-ID: <1994Oct7.011209.18590@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 01:12:09 GMT Does anyone know what's involved in turning a piece of clip art (i.e. an EPS file) into a character in a font? I'd like to come up with a way of taking an arbitrary set of EPS files and turning them into a PostScript font. The reason is that I've got a nice 3D text object in my WavesWorld 3DKit (courtesy of Ian Wilkinson of Canon), and it would be really nice to be able to take an arbitrary EPS file and make a piece of 3D geometry with it using the WW3DText object. It uses the NeXT's Font object to give it the curve info it needs, which makes it rather easy for me to use if I can just get my illustration into a Postscript font. The potential for taking 2D graphs and laying them out spatially should not be underestimated... Any suggestions, including applications on other platforms, are appreciated, but I'm most interested in a solution I can implement programmatically on a NeXT, hopefully without too much pain. Please email me, and I'll summarize. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom for NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> From: erik_e1@hnlv4.verifone.com Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 08:14:16 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: VeriFone Inc. Keywords: doom I'd like to hear from anyone who has had experience playing doom on the NeXT. I have a 25Mhz '040 color NeXTstation running NS 2.1. Unfortunately, the NexT version of Doom won't run. Since it is distributed as a fat binary, I assume I need NS 3.x to run it. My main questions are: 1) Is NS 3.x sufficient, or will the NeXT version of doom run only on white hardware? In other words, is it worth it for me to spend the ~$500 to upgrade my O/S in order to play Doom, or would I be wasting my money because it only runs on white hardware? 2) Is the NeXT version fully-functional? Since Doom was apparently developed on the NeXT and then recompiled for the PC, I assume the NeXt version is fully-functional, but I'd prefer to hear from somebody who has played it. The SGI Doom FAQ mentions that the SGI version has no mouse or sound support, but I'm hoping the situation for the NeXT is better. And how does the performance on the NeXT compare to on PCs? 3) (extra credit) It's a long shot, but does anybody know if the original NeXT wad designer tools are available anywhere, either from ID or elsewhere? Thanks for your help! -- Erik erik_e1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: Signature in NeXTMail? Message-ID: <1994Oct5.185155.13315@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 18:51:55 GMT References: <1994Sep21.135437.22268@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <1994Sep28.023920.16818@investor.pgh.pa.us> <davisreCwvMBs.AM9@netcom.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <davisreCwvMBs.AM9@netcom.com> davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) writes: >Bob Peirce #305 <rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >> >>I just discovered quite by accident that <cmd>-. sucks your signature >>file into next apps like Edit and Mail, but not Terminal. This is under >>3.2 on a Cube. i have no idea how long this has worked. I just mis-keyed >>in WriteUp and it happened. I thought it was something neat in WriteUp >>until I experimented a bit. >> > >Are you sure you're not using TickleServices? "Insert Signature" is >one of the services distributed with TS, and it's bound to Command-period. > Of Course! Art Isbel (sp?) suggested I might be using MailHelper but I didn't think so. However, I do have TickelServices running. It is one of those things I put on the system and haven't had the time to discover how to use. I guess I discovered more than I knew. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: andrewh@nextstep (Andrew Holt Local) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Public domain X server for NeXTStep for Intel Date: 7 Oct 1994 10:17:38 GMT Message-ID: <373782$i5a@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com> Hi all, Well the heading says it all, is there a version of MouseX for Intel rgds Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: DOOM for the NeXT??? Message-ID: <1994Oct7.113832.13642@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <thompsonCx864y.HrA@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 11:38:32 GMT In article <thompsonCx864y.HrA@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: > Also, Omni is apparently working on Doom II for NS.. > Eric And, they appear to have done their usual excellent work. I got to see it last week and it looked very fast on Intel, NeXT and HP , with sound support. (Now the question is "was I allowed to say that I'd seen it?") <Joe>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: EtherExpress Pro Adapter PCLA8225 Message-ID: <CxAw16.17n@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: coco@erika.cb.att.com Keywords: EtherExpress Ethernet Intel 10BaseT Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 11:31:53 GMT Does the above ethernet board work on NSfip 3.2 using the EtherExpress 16 driver? Anyone familiar with this board? The specs list it as new for 1994, ISA bus, 10BaseT, RJ-45 connection, list price $120. --Felix coco@erika.cb.att.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: REQUEST: App to Handle NXCommandKeys Date: 7 Oct 1994 08:44:44 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410071059.AA22775@alleg.EDU> I don't know if there is anyone out there who is interested in this, but it would be really nice to have an app (maybe much like defaultMgr) that would handle NXCommandKeys for each application (like Preferences does system wide) Having to edit them in terminal is really a bore, and really not for those of us who love NS with all our heart and soul. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXTMail ENCOURAGED, MIME tolerated No Root access, no super-user access
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Date: 7 Oct 1994 13:40:33 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com> References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> writes > > 1) Is NS 3.x sufficient, or will the NeXT version of doom run only on white > hardware? Currently, you can get a NeXT version of Doom 1.2 Shareware from ftp.cs.orst.edu. It runs under 3.2, and is MAB. I run it on Intel, but I've seen it run on cube. > 2) Is the NeXT version fully-functional? The version currently available is NOT fully functional. It is doesn't have sound, and runs poorly compared to the full PC version. It's some kind of kludged together hack, since the program still thinks its a PC (it doesn't know its running under NeXTSTEP) ... still, it was very impressive for the couple of weeks before the PC version was available. OmniGroup is reportedly working on a full NS implementation, with sound and Interceptor library calls for the graphics. It should kick! > > 3) (extra credit) It's a long shot, but does anybody know if the original > NeXT wad designer tools are available anywhere, either from ID or > elsewhere? > I asked. They aren't giving those away. Given the open design of Doom, they feel their big market advantage now is that they have the best WAD designer. Oh well. -- I feel like I'm in a Toilet Bowl with a thumbtack in my forehead!! Howard Ship hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame."
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: 7 Oct 1994 14:56:37 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <373nj5$gvm@digdug.pencom.com> References: <3722lq$iu5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <3722lq$iu5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: :Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: :: I had no trouble getting an answer when I called Pencom toll-free :: 1-800-736-2664. co-Xist for NS/HPPA should be available by late November. :: Because of the demand, however, they are making available a :: single-architecture beta. Give them a call, I'm sure they'll be more than :: responsive. : :Sorry for the rude answer, but you Americans don't seem to be aware that :there's life outside the U.S. An 800-number isn't toll-tree at all for us :poor Europeans. In fact, any call to the U.S. is quite expensive for me, :so I got used to e-mailing, and since Pencom also lists an info email :address, I choose to go that way and got no answer. That's all. : :Oh yes, and I finally got a nice reply from Pencom to my posting in this :list. Sorry if this has troubled anybody... Just an FYI for everybody on the net... I don't think we've been ignoring our e-mail (but I will verify), but I do know that we recently switched our Internet provider (upgraded our link), and it is quite possible that some e-mail went to e-mail "heaven" instead of to us. If you've sent e-mail in the last few weeks, and haven't had a response -- please re-send. If you have a problem getting a response, feel free to e-mail me directly, or send mail to 'sa@pencom.com' and mention that you are not receiving mail responses. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive ? (for HPPA?) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 11:13:02 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YiZKJyi00iV903QvZ2@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3722lq$iu5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 6-Oct-94 Re: Pencom's co-Xist alive .. by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un > Sorry for the rude answer, but you Americans don't seem to be aware that > there's life outside the U.S. An 800-number isn't toll-tree at all for us > poor Europeans. Gregor, take a look at the posting on the NeXT newsgroups. Something like 90% are from sites in the USA. Posting 1-800 numbers is useful for 9 out of 10 people here. It's pretty certain that the person trying to help you was doing just that, and had no desire to give you information which you'd have problems using.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tyson@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Tyson Macaulay) Subject: HELP - ERROR: Starting YP Services Message-ID: <tyson.38.001B14C7@debra.dgbt.doc.ca> Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News) Organization: Industry Canada Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 13:55:44 GMT Hi, I have just acquired a NeXT black to run as a server. First thing I did was try and get IP running. So I changed the IP numbers and restarted - but now the machine stalls in the boot process and hangs at the point "Starting YP Services" I had hooked it up to ethernet cable too - but I had'nt installed any drivers or even tried to yet. The LAN runs Banyan and TCP/IP - so I was thinking that I could just run TCP/IP alone through the LAN which I have seen people here do with packet drivers. HELP! Tyson Macaulay - Internet Applications Consultant ^ CDD/DGCP _./ \._ Industry Canada, 7th Floor, Journal Tower North \ / 300 Slater Street, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. K1A 0C8 /._ _.\ Email: tyson.macaulay@crc.doc.ca Voice: 613 9904236 |
From: delisle!mikel (Michael Lemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dig Date: 7 Oct 1994 16:12:25 GMT Organization: Minnesota Regional Network Message-ID: <373s19$mq6@cedar.mr.net> Keywords: dig I'm looking for a copy of dig compiled on Next intel. does anybody have a copy or know where I can find one?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: DOOM II Message-ID: <1994Oct7.163516.14258@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <36smak$leh@core.symnet.net> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 16:35:16 GMT Doom II will not have a shareware version. It is purchase only. (I don't know who the NEXTSTEP source is going to be.) <joe> In article <36smak$leh@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: > > Anyone now where the beta of DOOM II for NS might be found? > > Thanks for any info, > Steve Dekorte > dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) > http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) Subject: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 16:29:14 +0000 Message-ID: <9410071614.AA02390@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk When saving MS Windows output as postscript files from say, MS Word or MS Excel, we have found that we have to open the file (using Previewer's File Open on the menu) and use "Simple Mode". If we do not do this, we have discovered that the pages overlap on the screen and it's a general "mess". From a user's perspective, this is pretty poor; the promise is that a double click will just make it happen. Q. How can we advise people to save their Windows output in Postscript that will be immediately launchable by the NEXTSTEP Previewer (without manually opening the file in simply mode). Q. A Word for Windows 6 file was saved in PS format which contained a page in landscape; the ps file emerged with this page in two halves in portarit mode; was there a simple way to avoid this ? John -- -- John I. Stephen
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Bibliography Management Software on Next Black Date: 7 Oct 1994 18:14:15 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37435n$cb6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <36p8t6$d1f@ralph.vnet.net> Hi: I'm looking for Bibliography Management software for a NeXT (similar to Procite or Endnotes+ for the Mac). Any recommendations, vendors, etc. Please reply by e-mail. Thanks. -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gzip for Workspace Manager Date: 6 Oct 1994 22:49:32 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <371uts$h0k@core.symnet.net> References: <1994Oct6.080618.556@tanuki.twics.com> hugh@tanuki.twics.com writes > (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: > Opener.app (ftp.cs.orst.edu) does all this and more, even allows you to > create hqx and sit files to the amazement of your Mac-owning friends! But it has to open a seperate app(slow) and then you have to keep killing opener after it's done. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero) Subject: Re: Looking for a 3270 emulator for NS3.2 Intel Message-ID: <1994Oct7.153316.8470@zion.com> Sender: david@zion.com Organization: Zion Software & Consulting References: <371ab2$6io@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 15:33:16 GMT Try Conextions: They sell 5250 Vision, and 3270 Vision. Great Apps! I believe email is: info@conextions.com David. > In article <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw) > writes: > > The Subject line says it all. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David J. Ferrero 203-659-4257 tel NEXTSTEP Registered Developer 203-657-3542 fax Zion Software & Consulting david@zion.com email
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: template@crash.cts.com (Template Graphics Software) Subject: OpenGL and Open Inventor for OpenStep? Organization: Tempalte Graphics Software Inc., San Diego, CA Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:12:50 GMT Message-ID: <CxBBtE.8Fw@crash.cts.com> Sender: robert@tgs.com TGS is an OpenGL and Open Inventor source licensee from SGI. OpenGL is a 3D rendering technology also licensed by others, including DEC, IBM and Microsoft. OpenGL is included on Windows NT 3.5. Open Inventor is an OO/C++ toolkit layered on-top-of OpenGL and is proving quite popular in the C++ UNIX community. Since TGS is porting OpenGL and Open Inventor to Solaris, and since Sun has embraced OpenStep, I'm collecting input on the idea of porting OpenGL and Open Inventor to OpenStep. From graphics developers, I would like your opinion of the 3D tools available already for OpenStep; if OpenGL/Inventor are important from a cross-environment perspective (i.e. do you need support for *more* than OpenStep); are you familiar with Open Inventor? From other ISV's who sell into OpenStep *and* UNIX markets, I'm curious if there is overlap, or do companies standardize on OpenStep throughout? From someone at Next - please email me! I've tried for some time to talk to someone on this topic but have yet to find the *right* person. Thanks! Robert Weideman VP Marketing - TGS robert@tgs.com
From: lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: any SCADA or animation packages for NeXT? Date: 08 Oct 1994 00:09:36 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Message-ID: <LIM.94Oct7170936@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> Are there any SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) packages out there for NeXT? These packages are typically used for process control applications. I'm primarily interested in animation on NeXT, e.g. tanks filling, valves opening and closing, material flowing on a conveyor belt, etc. Comparable pacakges are WonderWare from InTouch, DataViews from VI Corp., or SL-GMS from SL Corporation.
From: ckirby@u.washington.edu (Chad Kirby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT rtf -> ASCII rtf Date: 7 Oct 1994 19:40:33 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Message-ID: <37487h$cdd@nntp1.u.washington.edu> I have a professor who needs a utility to convert a NeXT rtf file into a standard ASCII rtf file so he can share his word processing documents between his NeXT and his Windows machine. Can anyone point me at a utility or a method of doing what he wants to do? Many thanks... Chad Kirby University of Washington School of Music
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Does <Fax Later> work? Message-ID: <CxBoHD.519@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <3718nq$1o8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 21:46:25 GMT In article <3718nq$1o8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: > > Hi, > > I have been trying to send some faxes at a later time but the fax later > option in the fax panel doesn't seem to work. I thought it worked but > then when I use it now it simply faxes it right away; it doesn't matter > what day or time I set it. In the Fax Queue it also appears as an ASAP > fax. Any help would be appreciated. > I use 'Fax later' occasionally and it always worked for me. Sorry, that's all I can tell you. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: m.guentsche@tbx.berlinet.in-berlin.de (mark-oliver guentsche) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom1_2_FAT.compressed !?!? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 23:25:00 +0100 Message-ID: <5YOByG4F-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.in-berlin.de> Organization: guentsche hello, I got doom_1_2_FAT.compressed from ftp.cs.orst.edu, but it does not work. I get a "W_GetNumForName: PNAMES not found" from doom. help please. -- ** gruss mark ** ## CrossPoint v3.02 ##
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: matthew@netcom.com (Matthew R. Meyer) Subject: Nova CD-ROM Message-ID: <matthewCxB8HA.1pL@netcom.com> Keywords: Nova,next Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 16:00:45 GMT Has anyone checked out the Nova CD-ROM from walnut Creek? I heard it's supposed to be filled with a bunch of NeXT stuff. Is it worth shelling the money out for it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kraft@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Boris Kraft) Subject: Where do I get (academic) Diagram! in SF? Message-ID: <KRAFT.94Oct8095701@havra.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Sender: cnews@dcs.ed.ac.uk (UseNet News Admin) Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 08:57:00 GMT Hi there, does anybody have a contact for LightHouse -- something like a 800 number would be fine. Or do you know where in San Franzisco I could buy their products (as a student, and for student prices). I know I can get it here (in the UK), but since my friend is in Frisco anyway, this would definitly be cheaper. Thanks, Boris -- ============================================================================= | Boris Kraft | MAIL: kraft@dcs.ed.ac.uk | Dept of Computer Science | | University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh EH9 3JZ | | UK | =============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Message-ID: <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 20:31:28 GMT Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote: > >OmniGroup is reportedly working on a full NS implementation, with sound >and Interceptor library calls for the graphics. It should kick! I thought they posted that there wasn't going to be sound because it sucked up too much CPU. Too bad, because Doom without sound just isn't Doom. Guess I'll still be rebooting into DOS... Eric thompson@netcom.com
From: jreiss@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Date: 08 Oct 1994 13:33:22 GMT Organization: In your dreams... Distribution: usa Message-ID: <JREISS.94Oct8093322@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com> <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> To: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) In-reply-to: thompson@netcom.com's message of Fri, 7 Oct 1994 20:31:28 GMT In article <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: >Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote: >> >>OmniGroup is reportedly working on a full NS implementation, with sound >>and Interceptor library calls for the graphics. It should kick! > > >I thought they posted that there wasn't going to be sound because it >sucked up too much CPU. Too bad, because Doom without sound just >isn't Doom. Guess I'll still be rebooting into DOS... The Omni people said there wouldn't be *music* because it sucked up CPU, but there will be digitized sounds. For all of us with black hardware, it certainly is a shame to let that DSP go to waste, though. :-) Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | If I were human, I believe my response would be... | | ________ | "Go to hell." If I were human. | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Capt. Spock, "Star Trek VI" |
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where do I get (academic) Diagram! in SF? Date: 8 Oct 1994 14:33:03 GMT Organization: GlobalCom Message-ID: <376aiv$5vl@goodnews.globalcom.net> References: <KRAFT.94Oct8095701@havra.dcs.ed.ac.uk> In article <KRAFT.94Oct8095701@havra.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, kraft@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Boris Kraft) says: > does anybody have a contact for LightHouse -- something like a 800 number would be fine. Or do you know where in San Franzisco I could buy their p Lighthouse Design. Ltd. 2929 Campus Drive, Suite 250 San Mateo, California, USA 415-57-7736 voice 415-570-7787 FAX 800-366-2279 Friendly people, and you really have to admire their edu pricing.
From: behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Josh Behnke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:46:03 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <36sier$pb2@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> In article <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: > Bill Tschumy writes > > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also > > like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are > > one and the same problems. > > Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the > > IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP > > thought the IP address was something else. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > Yeah, they're one in the same problem - i.e. they have nothing to do with > SLIP. Think of your SLIP connection as if it were that black coax wire > running between two machines on your network. Now solve the NXHost problem. > Hint: check your public window server settings. As far as DO is concerned: it > works. I run NXHost and connect DO across SLIP almost every day. I have done > NOTHING special to get DO to work, and only set up my public window server to > get NXHost to work. Any other problems you may have can be addressed by doing > network routing diagnostics. If your routing isn't working right, you'll have > problems with more than just NXHost and DO. > > Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> > Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. > Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA I have had the same problem with a PPP connection. Everything works _except_ NXHost. I can telnet from my machine to the remote machine, and then from the remote machine back to mine with no problem. I can FTP, mail, read news, etc. But when I try to NXHost I get a DPS can't connect error. (I _have_ checked the public window server, and checked that it is checked several times... :) The only lead I have come up with as to why it might not be working is the nmserver process. According to the manpage, it forwards mach IPC over the network. I have found that it gets sent a USR2 signal in the rc.net, to "let nmserver know the fruits of the configuration". When I send it a USR2 (with the PPP link up and running) it spits out "cannot find a working network interface... disabling network." I have no idea what this means or if it is the cause of the problem, but it is the only thing I have found that complains about my configuration. Anybody have any suggestions? -Josh Behnke behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu
From: behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Josh Behnke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:46:42 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <36sig2$pb5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> In article <1994Sep30.231402.26988@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: > Bill Tschumy writes > > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also > > like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are > > one and the same problems. > > Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the > > IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP > > thought the IP address was something else. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > Yeah, they're one in the same problem - i.e. they have nothing to do with > SLIP. Think of your SLIP connection as if it were that black coax wire > running between two machines on your network. Now solve the NXHost problem. > Hint: check your public window server settings. As far as DO is concerned: it > works. I run NXHost and connect DO across SLIP almost every day. I have done > NOTHING special to get DO to work, and only set up my public window server to > get NXHost to work. Any other problems you may have can be addressed by doing > network routing diagnostics. If your routing isn't working right, you'll have > problems with more than just NXHost and DO. > > Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> > Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. > Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA I have had the same problem with a PPP connection. Everything works _except_ NXHost. I can telnet from my machine to the remote machine, and then from the remote machine back to mine with no problem. I can FTP, mail, read news, etc. But when I try to NXHost I get a DPS can't connect error. (I _have_ checked the public window server, and checked that it is checked several times... :) The only lead I have come up with as to why it might not be working is the nmserver process. According to the manpage, it forwards mach IPC over the network. I have found that it gets sent a USR2 signal in the rc.net, to "let nmserver know the fruits of the configuration". When I send it a USR2 (with the PPP link up and running) it spits out "cannot find a working network interface... disabling network." I have no idea what this means or if it is the cause of the problem, but it is the only thing I have found that complains about my configuration. Anybody have any suggestions? -Josh Behnke behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: scottc@agora.rdrop.com (Scott Christley) Subject: Help with MiscKit Sender: news@agora.rdrop.com (USENET News) Organization: RainDrop Laboratories Message-ID: <CxD3qG.94M@agora.rdrop.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 16:13:28 GMT I need some help with making the MiscKit; I got the "a" release off of the archives but when I did a make it gave me an error that it could not find this file: /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app/tool.make It was working on the MiscInspectorKit subdirectory; when I looked at the makefile it has the line in it MAKEFILE = tool.make normally i see app.make, bundle.make, or palette.make there - what is this tool.make? I am running NS/FIP 3.1 so maybe it is missing that file, or I accidently deleted it some time ?!? Anyways it is just a template file right so if somebody can email it to me i should be able to drop it in and go. thanks scott
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nova CD-ROM Date: 8 Oct 1994 18:11:43 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <376ncv$h1n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <matthewCxB8HA.1pL@netcom.com> Keywords: Nova,next matthew@netcom.com (Matthew R. Meyer) writes: > Has anyone checked out the Nova CD-ROM from walnut Creek? I heard it's supposed to be filled with a bunch of NeXT stuff. Is it worth shelling the money out for it? I've got a copy and, in genreal, it's useful. It's basically a compilations of stuff on the Oregon Stae and Purdue archives. I've downloaded a lot of stuff from thses sites over time, and now I can save myself the trouble of going back, except for new submissions. Also, I can unload the less-frequently used stuff from my hard drive. -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Who is the author of MailCall.app? Message-ID: <thompsonCxBt4G.8vy@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 23:26:39 GMT I'd like to contact them about re-compiling it MAB. The version on orst is black-only. thanks, Eric thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rik@parsec.nl (Rik Zandvoort) Subject: Re: HELP - ERROR: Starting YP Services Message-ID: <1994Oct8.221521.1334@parsec.nl> Organization: Parsec Dev., Leiden, Netherlands Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 22:15:21 GMT References: <tyson.38.001B14C7@debra.dgbt.doc.ca> In article <tyson.38.001B14C7@debra.dgbt.doc.ca> tyson@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Tyson Macaulay) writes: >Hi, > >I have just acquired a NeXT black to run as a server. First thing I did was >try and get IP running. So I changed the IP numbers and restarted - but now >the machine stalls in the boot process and hangs at the point > >"Starting YP Services" > >I had hooked it up to ethernet cable too - but I had'nt installed any drivers >or even tried to yet. > >The LAN runs Banyan and TCP/IP - so I was thinking that I could just run >TCP/IP alone through the LAN which I have seen people here do with packet >drivers. > >HELP! > May be this helps: 1. restart system 2. at boot> type -useBoot0 <return> the system will come up single user 3. edit /etc/hostconfig. YPDOMAIN=-NO- 4. reboot (you can push Alt-NumLock, than h ) Now your beast might come up multi-user again. 5. Do not forget to change the IP bumbers. If you find a better method, please let me know. May be we should (kindly...) request NeXT to build "a time-out after not finding YP" in their next release. Rik -- Rik Zandvoort <rik@parsec.nl> Phone: +31 71 131000 Parsec Developments, Leiden, The Netherlands Fax : +31 71 142142
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Does <Fax Later> work? Message-ID: <thompsonCxDqCr.M3C@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <3718nq$1o8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <CxBoHD.519@belly.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 00:22:02 GMT I just used it yesterday at 1pm to schedule 3 faxes for 4pm, and it worked fine. (NXFax on NS3.2/Intel). The queue showd it as being schedule for 4pm. Eric >> I have been trying to send some faxes at a later time but the fax later >> option in the fax panel doesn't seem to work. I thought it worked but >> then when I use it now it simply faxes it right away; it doesn't matter >> what day or time I set it. In the Fax Queue it also appears as an ASAP >> fax. Any help would be appreciated.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: 9 Oct 1994 05:12:34 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <377u42$h9b@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <9410071614.AA02390@remote1.demon.co.uk> In article <9410071614.AA02390@remote1.demon.co.uk> John.Stephen@gf.barclays.co.uk writes: >Q. How can we advise people to save their Windows output in >Postscript that will be immediately launchable by the NEXTSTEP >Previewer (without manually opening the file in simply mode). You mean Windows drivers aren't outputting PostScript conforming to Adobe Document Structuring Conventions? Gee, I thought Microsoft was the pinnacle of perfection... (NOT!) Which version of Windows do you have? If it's prior to 3.11, you might try upgrading or at least getting updated drivers. If the generic PostScript stuff doesn't work (note that Microsoft doesn't recommend using their generic PostScript driver!), you might try one of the Apple LaserWriter drivers and see if you have any better luck. >Q. A Word for Windows 6 file was saved in PS format which contained a >page in landscape; the ps file emerged with this page in two halves >in portarit mode; was there a simple way to avoid this ? Uh, don't do this? See ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/windows/kb/q83/0/76.txt for a description of known landscape printing problems and a possible workaround. Disclaimer: I strive to know as little as possible about Windoze. "I just have to network them." -=EPS=- -- "Don't blame me ... I bought a Macintosh."
From: kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: graphic design software available? Message-ID: <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 11:31:09 -0500 Organization: Private System I'm thinking of switching to NextStep for Intel (junk dos 6.22, win 3.11) The only problem is, I'm a graphic designer and use the following software: Corel 5.0 Pagemaker 5.0 Photoshop 2.5.1 are there packages similar to these for NextStep for intel? I know Photoshop is available for Sun/SGI (although the blurb from Adobe also says NeXT but doesn't list any support) -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kirk Membry Viamar Systems | | kmembry@viamar.com Running a ZyXEL U-1496E+ | | "In the Heart of the Green Mountains" w/v.32b/Fax/Voice | | When a cow laughs too hard, does milk come out of it's nose? | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who is the author of MailCall.app? Date: 9 Oct 1994 11:30:31 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410091629.AA02042@alleg.EDU> In a comp.sys.next.software article you wrote: SUBJECT: Who is the author of MailCall.app? I'd like to contact them about re-compiling it MAB. The version on orst is black-only. thanks, Eric thompson@netcom.com Garance A Drosehn (email: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) is the author and he has been very very helpful in my correspondence with him about MailCall and a few other ideas I had for my NeXT. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXTMail ENCOURAGED, MIME tolerated No Root access, no super-user access
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniImageFilter vs. ImageViewer services tip... Date: 9 Oct 1994 12:33:15 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941009181101.259AACUM.malc@jeeves> Maybe this is a bit unfair, stealing a good idea from someone who has come up with the solution for his own s/w, but it seems to be worth passing on... I've found that, whilst ImageViewer is in many respects an excellent application, and in particular its filtering Service has been very useful in the past, I have found that it (the filtering Service) hasn't been able to cope with some of the images I've been getting recently using WWW. I tried installing OmniImageFilter, but found that for some reason ImageViewer always started up first. In desperation I simply removed ImageViewer, but with much reluctance since it's useful for other things. I just happened to look through the documentation for Michael McCulloch's McFilter (McDonald's is bound to sue him for that!), and found he had experienced the same problem, but had found the cause of the problem, and come up with what in retrospect should have been the obvious solution. The problem is that "It [ImageViewer.app (version 0.9i)] declares its image filter service within the application wrapper, which causes ImageViewer.app to take precedence over any other image filters you have installed". This is solved in the following manner -- simply replace the services file (make a backup first!) in the ImageViewer.app folder with a version which only lists those conversions not handled by McFilter or OmniImageFilter. If you intend to use OmniImageFilter, the new services file should, as far as I can tell, look like this: Filter: convertToTiff Port: ImageViewer SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:ais SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:brush SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:Brush SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:BRUSH SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:face SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:icon SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:image SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:im8 SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:img SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:itex SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:macpaint SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:mtek SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:press SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:raster SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:rf SendType: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:sunras ReturnType: NXTIFFPboardType I hope this is useful... If I've made a mistake in the above file, my apologies (but nothing else -- use this fix at your own risk! :-), and would whoever finds a bug please let me know. Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 114 276 8555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 282 5569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 114 278 0972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Message-ID: <CxF349.81s@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <36sig2$pb5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 17:52:39 GMT (Josh Behnke) writes: > brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: > > Bill Tschumy writes > > > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also > > Yeah, they're one in the same problem - i.e. they have nothing to do with > I have had the same problem with a PPP connection. Everything works _except_ > NXHost. I can telnet from my machine to the remote machine, and then from the > > Anybody have any suggestions? > It was my understanding that certain operations on the NEXT are "required" to use the en0 device for network i/o. NXHost is one of these. Give your en0 device on your remote NEXT an IP (same one as the slip0 or pni0 device). While in general this might be a goofy thing to do, it will allow NXHost to read and write en0. I'd just put the IP in /etc/hostconfig. I don't think this is will have any affect on DO but, you should be able to NXHost, OpenSesame and remote build in Project Builder. If you are on an Intel box you'll probably need to install an ethernet board first. Jeff --- "You are Gunther Heindrickson from Appenzell, you moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Muren." quote from an A! episode. jeff.hallgren@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: flog@chelsea (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Message-ID: <CxF31F.280@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland References: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 17:53:38 GMT Rod Ragner (rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu) wrote: : Is there a fix for this? I've had success selecting the last article in the list (while it still loads the subjects and only displays numbers), wait for it to display and THEN hit catch up. -Florian -- Florian Gutzwiller Tel: +41 61 262 0505, Fax: +41 61 262 0510 Open Systems AG Florian.Gutzwiller@Open.CH Basel, Switzerland S=gutzwiller;O=open;P=EUnet=A=EUnet;C=CH
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: 9 Oct 1994 18:05:17 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <379bct$kv7@nntp.crl.com> References: <377u42$h9b@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <377u42$h9b@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > In article <9410071614.AA02390@remote1.demon.co.uk> > John.Stephen@gf.barclays.co.uk writes: > >Q. How can we advise people to save their Windows output in > >Postscript that will be immediately launchable by the NEXTSTEP > >Previewer (without manually opening the file in simply mode). > > You mean Windows drivers aren't outputting PostScript conforming > to Adobe Document Structuring Conventions? Gee, I thought > Microsoft was the pinnacle of perfection... (NOT!) > If you need to do this often you might consider getting Tailor. Most of the Windows ps files I've tried to open with preview.app would not open. However, simply opening them in Tailor and saving them was enough to clean up the postscript. Michael Rutchik michael@mmgraph.com
From: jtodd@redfox (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 9 Oct 1994 18:21:07 GMT Organization: Wit's End Message-ID: <379caj$d10@news1.digex.net> References: <36bvnh$mem@giga.bga.com> : Bill Tschumy writes : > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? I would also : > like to get Distributed Objects working over SLIP. I believe these are : > one and the same problems. : > : > Someone once told me that the problem had to do with Mach thinking the : > IP address was one thing (for use in Mach messaging) while SLIP : > thought the IP address was something else. : > : > Any advice would be appreciated. I ran across the same problem a while back, and some kind soul forwarded this answer to me: kill -31 21 What this does is re-start the nmserver process (process #21) and lets it re-init itself with your new PPP/SLIP connection as the gateway. I have a static IP and hostname, but I need to get on-line and then re-start nmserver before NXHost will work. Be warned! It's so slow as to be impossible to use. If you have a 28.8 connection, you'll only wait about 4 or 5 minutes for something like Mail.app to launch over an NXHost connection.... yikes! -- John Todd jtodd@fox-den.com
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: graphic design software available? Date: 9 Oct 1994 19:36:55 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <379gon$qei@nntp.crl.com> References: <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> In article <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) writes: > I'm thinking of switching to NextStep for Intel (junk dos 6.22, win > 3.11) The only problem is, I'm a graphic designer and use the following > software: > Corel 5.0 Create, from Stone Design <info@stone.com> is an amazing postscript drawing program with features you've never seen before on any other platform. It probably doesn't match Corel feature for feature but I believe it would do most of what you need plus alot of stuff you never thought possible. > Pagemaker 5.0 Here it depends what you're using PageMaker for. If most of your page layout work is less than 10 - 15 pages per job then you may want to consider Virtuoso (aka Freehand 4.0). It lacks some of the text style features and search and replace functions of most page layout programs, but what you lose in these features is made up for by the fact that Virtuoso is first and foremost a professional illustration program that just happens to have multiple page capabilities. However if you generally produce longer documents then you'll want to check out Paste-Up, a full featured page layout program. The best thing here is the ease of creating page layouts in the NeXT environment. If you add any one of the free image services you can literally drag and drop graphics files from any platform directly into your page, no questions asked! > Photoshop 2.5.1 At least two possibilities here. Both of them are very capable but very different from Photoshop. TIFFany is a very powerful and fun to use .tiff editing program (again, with those filter services installed, any graphics file you bring in will be automagically converted to a .tiff). It is the only program I've used that extends the mutli-threading capabilities of unix & NEXTSTEP into the program itself. You can apply filters to several files simultaneously; each filter operation is assigned its own process which can be paused, stopped, resumed or undone at any time. ComposeInColor seems to be the program you would want if you need the layering flexibility of Photoshop 3.0, Live Picture etc. Other than that, I can't say much about it because I haven't used it. With layering being such a hot new feature I wouldn't be surprised if the folks who make TIFFany add this feature soon (hint, hint). > are there packages similar to these for NextStep for intel? I know > Photoshop is available for Sun/SGI (although the blurb from Adobe also > says NeXT but doesn't list any support) I would suggest you get the NEXTSTEP system and then order the following two CD's: Solutions Suite CD $10 from GS Corp info@goldleaf.com Stone Design CD $15 from Stone Design info@stone.com Demos of most of the software mentioned above is contained on these two CDs, along with alot of other cool essentials. You can try out all the packages and then put together a discounted bundle from either of the vendors. Enjoy, Michael Rutchik michael@mmgraph.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu (Josh Tenenberg) Subject: Dropping icons into the minibuffer in emacs.app Message-ID: <CxD9wE.IAx@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu> Sender: usenet@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu (USENET poster) Organization: Indiana University South Bend Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 18:26:37 GMT My system administrator loaded the emacs.app onto my next a few months ago, and I like it a great deal. One major problem is that I am not able to drop icons into the minibuffer and have the pathname expanded, as I can in the non-next version of emacs that I have been running. Has anyone else run into this problem, and if so, were you able to solve it, (and, if so, how??!) Thanks, Josh D. Tenenberg Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Indiana University at South Bend 1700 Mishawaka Avenue South Bend, Indiana 46615
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:37:22 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <379nqi$65r@pong.ping.at> References: <36sig2$pb5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Originator: wa@s051 In article <36sig2$pb5@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Josh Behnke) writes: > I have had the same problem with a PPP connection. Everything works _except_ > NXHost. I can telnet from my machine to the remote machine, and then from the > remote machine back to mine with no problem. I can FTP, mail, read news, etc. > But when I try to NXHost I get a DPS can't connect error. (I _have_ checked the > public window server, and checked that it is checked several times... :) > > The only lead I have come up with as to why it might not be working is the > nmserver process. According to the manpage, it forwards mach IPC over the > network. I have found that it gets sent a USR2 signal in the rc.net, to "let > nmserver know the fruits of the configuration". When I send it a USR2 (with the > PPP link up and running) it spits out "cannot find a working network > interface... disabling network." I have no idea what this means or if it is the > cause of the problem, but it is the only thing I have found that complains > about my configuration. The problem normally has to do with routing. If your are running slip or ppp normally 4 Internet-addresses are involved: the addresses of the 2 hosts and the addresses of the 2 SLIP-interfaces. The SLIP-software normally installs a route between the SLIP-interfaces. What it does not is installing routes from your host to the other host over the SLIP-interface and vice versa (you can look at the routes with the command "netstat -r"). Try adding some routes with the following commands (you must be root to do this): route add <inetaddr-other-host> <inetaddr-your-slip> 1 The same has to be done on the other host, just the other way round. That could cure your problem. -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app question(blackRelease3.0) Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:08:57 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <379plp$cmp@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, I wondering if there was a way to move read(red) mail into other .mbox files in Mail.app, like (ouch, hate saying this) SunOS Mail. I'd like to be able to read a mail message and then file it away in another .mbox file at the click of a mouse, so I don't have to look at in in the list. However, I'd like to click again and bring up this .mbox file. Pardon me if this is a really stupid question. I know one can create other mbox files complete with icon, but I'm not sure how to flip from one to the other. I know it can be done at the text level, but I'm trying to save time. Please mail below, thanks for any responses in advance. -- ******************************************************* Jessica L. Mosher email: cooncat@ella.mills.edu NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu "Life is what happens when you're making other plans." --John Lennon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Need Bibliography Management Software on Next Black References: <36p8t6$d1f@ralph.vnet.net> <37435n$cb6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 13:07:05 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct9.130705.2502@proximus.north.de> Distribution: usa In article <37435n$cb6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu> wrote: >Hi: >I'm looking for Bibliography Management software for a >NeXT (similar to Procite or Endnotes+ for the Mac). >Any recommendations, vendors, etc. >Please reply by e-mail. Thanks. Well, I post it... There is fmbib and bibframe for Framemaker and, of course, bibtex. These (especially bibtex and fmbib, the two I use) allow you to build a database, consisting of keywords (aka field identifier) and bibliographic contents. But the information is just stored as plain text files, that means that you do not have the possibilities of a full blown database. Also sometimes it is quite complicated to build such a formatted textfile. Therefor I created a DataPhile database which I use. I could email (NeXTmail) it to you (empty), but it needs still some (hum, well, a lot of) work. (Especially it takes up huge amounts of space.) However, it will create bibfiles out of DataPhile data. Maybe one day I will create a full-blown relational db. PS: To give you a feel of such a bibfile, here's an excerpt: @article{ busch:93, author = { Busch, M. }, title = { {Kommunikative} {Eleganz} -- {Sockets} {unter} {BSD-Unix} }, journal = { iX }, year = { 1993 }, month = { 2 }, pages = { 156--158 }, note = { Heise-Verlag } } [...] @InProceedings{ steiner:88, author = { Steiner, J. G. and Neumann, C. and Schiller, J. I. }, title = { Kerberos: An Authentication Service for Open Network Systems }, booktitle = { Proceedings of the 1988 Winter USENIX Conference, Dallas, Texas }, year = { 1988 }, pages = { 191--202 } } [...] Hope it helped, Gerhard. -- +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on request >--+ N Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: template in the "Edit" fails Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:07:54 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: all Message-ID: <379pjq$634@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I used to use "template" expansion in the Edit.app in the 3.1. Wh en my cube ungrade to 3.2, it seems the template doesn't work any more. I even re-define new item in the dictionary, but it just doesn'y work. Is is a bug in the 3.2 ? or I forget to do something magic ? Thanks, Chun-Yen
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT rtf -> ASCII rtf Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 21:52:48 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <941009225248.758AACUI.malc@jeeves> References: <37487h$cdd@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > I have a professor who needs a utility to convert a NeXT rtf file into a > standard ASCII rtf file so he can share his word processing documents > between his NeXT and his Windows machine. Can anyone point me at a > utility or a method of doing what he wants to do? Many thanks... > ?Don't understand... NeXT rtf should be the same as rtf on other platforms (at least the "text" (chars) part of it should be -- as to whether some formatting instructions are followed...) Do you mean you want to transfer stuff *unformatted*, as ASCII, or retaining some formatting information, as RTF? A better solution might be to use a word-processor on NEXTSTEP which supports the Windows WP native format (e.g. Word Perfect, Word etc). AFS's WriteUp, though the Igor service, currently has filters for WordPerfect; Xanthus' OpenWrite will apparently have filters for Word Perfect, Word FrameMaker mif, and probably others. I hope this helps? Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Cobol for NextStep? Message-ID: <CxFGuA.2tt@nexus.ping.de> Keywords: COBOL Sender: usenet@nexus.ping.de Organization: Heart Software Development Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 22:51:46 GMT Hi, what Cobol compilers are available for NEXTSTEP? -- Juergen Moellenhoff EMail: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (NeXTMail OK)
From: vamp@csulb.edu (VampLestat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <37a74o$k8h@garuda.csulb.edu> Control: cancel <37a74o$k8h@garuda.csulb.edu> Date: 10 Oct 1994 02:00:40 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <37a788$k91@garuda.csulb.edu> <37a74o$k8h@garuda.csulb.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@csulb.edu System Administrator url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/ Academic Computing Services, CSU Long Beach pgpkey: finger vamp@beach.csulb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Message-ID: <CxDn26.n44@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <9410071614.AA02390@remote1.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 23:10:54 GMT John I Stephen (john@remote1) wrote: : When saving MS Windows output as postscript files from say, MS Word : or MS Excel, we have found that we have to open the file (using : Previewer's File Open on the menu) and use "Simple Mode". If we do : not do this, we have discovered that the pages overlap on the screen : and it's a general "mess". From a user's perspective, this is pretty : poor; the promise is that a double click will just make it happen. : Q. How can we advise people to save their Windows output in : Postscript that will be immediately launchable by the NEXTSTEP : Previewer (without manually opening the file in simply mode). : Q. A Word for Windows 6 file was saved in PS format which contained a : page in landscape; the ps file emerged with this page in two halves : in portarit mode; was there a simple way to avoid this ? : John : -- : -- : John I. Stephen Personally, I have NEVER got a postcript file from windows to work properly under NS. I usually have to manually open the file in Edit and delete a ton of control characters and other crap before the headers, along with other screwed up code. There is nothing wrong with NS here.....it's all the grotty PS driver for windows. Generally, my experience with windows PS is that it's nothing but bad news- the drivers seem to be some pathetic hacks that will get your image on the page, but when run in an interactive environment like DPS show all their flaws. later jay ************************************************** Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation **************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: OpenGL and Open Inventor for OpenStep? Message-ID: <CxDn6q.97@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <CxBBtE.8Fw@crash.cts.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 23:13:38 GMT Template Graphics Software (template@crash.cts.com) wrote: : TGS is an OpenGL and Open Inventor source licensee from SGI. OpenGL is a : 3D rendering technology also licensed by others, including DEC, IBM and : Microsoft. OpenGL is included on Windows NT 3.5. : Open Inventor is an OO/C++ toolkit layered on-top-of OpenGL and is : proving quite popular in the C++ UNIX community. : Since TGS is porting OpenGL and Open Inventor to Solaris, and since Sun : has embraced OpenStep, I'm collecting input on the idea of porting OpenGL : and Open Inventor to OpenStep. : From graphics developers, I would like your opinion of the 3D tools : available already for OpenStep; if OpenGL/Inventor are important from a : cross-environment perspective (i.e. do you need support for *more* than : OpenStep); are you familiar with Open Inventor? : From other ISV's who sell into OpenStep *and* UNIX markets, I'm curious : if there is overlap, or do companies standardize on OpenStep throughout? : From someone at Next - please email me! I've tried for some time to talk : to someone on this topic but have yet to find the *right* person. : Thanks! : Robert Weideman : VP Marketing - TGS : robert@tgs.com An OPENGL implementation would be nice....any chance of a clean combination with the 3Dkit (or trying to at least use some sort of common API).... *************************************** Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation ***************************************
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I remove HP from Triple-FAT Applications? Date: 9 Oct 94 11:44:01 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Oct9114401@nic.gac.edu> References: <36v84q$ae0@news.iastate.edu> In-reply-to: rragner@wallaby.vm.iastate.edu's message of 5 Oct 1994 22:08:26 GMT In article <36v84q$ae0@news.iastate.edu>, rragner@wallaby.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) wrote: >I have tried using the lipo program to extract the hppa architecture >from Triple-FAT applications (on both NeXT and Intel), but it >refuses to work! <...> >Strangely enough, it appears that you have to have an HP PA-RISC >machine to remove that architecture from applications... One thing you can do (I've tried it) is to use the lipo -extract option to pull a specified architecture type out of the binary. Then, if you want an i386+m68k, you have to bundle them back together using lipo again, something like this sequence: howard:/tmp> lipo -info Stuart Architectures in the fat file: Stuart are: m68k i386 (cputype (11) cpusubtype (0)) howard:/tmp> lipo Stuart -extract m68k -output Stuart.m68k howard:/tmp> lipo Stuart -extract i386 -output Stuart.i386 howard:/tmp> lipo Stuart.{m68k,i386} -create -output Stuart.fat howard:/tmp> lipo -info Stuart.fat Architectures in the fat file: Stuart.fat are: m68k i386 howard:/tmp> Also note that you can successfully use lipo's -thin option on a triple-fat binary: howard:/tmp> lipo -info Stuart Architectures in the fat file: Stuart are: m68k i386 (cputype (11) cpusubtype (0)) howard:/tmp> lipo Stuart -thin i386 -output Stuart.thin howard:/tmp> lipo -info Stuart.thin Non-fat file: Stuart.thin is architecture: i386 howard:/tmp> Later, -- scott hess <scott@gac.edu><I write the code that makes the whole world sing> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Dropping icons into the minibuffer in emacs.app In-Reply-To: josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu's message of Sat, 8 Oct 1994 18:26:37 GMT To: josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu (Josh Tenenberg) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct9203219@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CxD9wE.IAx@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 00:32:19 GMT In article <CxD9wE.IAx@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu> josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu (Josh Tenenberg) writes: My system administrator loaded the emacs.app onto my next a few months ago, and I like it a great deal. One major problem is that I am not able to drop icons into the minibuffer and have the pathname expanded, as I can in the non-next version of emacs that I have been running. Has anyone else run into this problem, and if so, were you able to solve it, (and, if so, how??!) Well, the default behavior is to put the entire file into the buffer instead of just the pathname which I guess most people prefer. If you prefer the pathname, try this in your ~/.emacs: (defun ns-insert-pathname () "Insert the pathname." (interactive) (insert (car ns-input-file)) (setq ns-input-file (cdr ns-input-file))) (define-key global-map [ns-drag-file] 'ns-insert-pathname) Carl Edman
From: stalker@coyote.rain.org (Milar Cole) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Canon printer drivers. Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:45:48 -0700 Organization: RAIN Network Message-ID: <37agts$8m2@coyote.rain.org> Does anyone have or know where I can get a driver for the Canon BJ-200 or BJ-200e printer for NSFIP 3.2 ? Milan Cole stalker@rain.org
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM II Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:40:44 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <37agkc$fqr@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <36smak$leh@core.symnet.net> Steve Dekorte writes: >Anyone now where the beta of DOOM II for NS might be found? Doom II is commercial. The core code for Doom II runs the Doom I WADfiles, though, and we will be making this code freely available with the original shareware WAD (at Id's request). This means that when we release Doom II, you'll be able to play the original shareware Doom triply-fat with sounds and interceptor support. Free. Darn we're nice. (Well, darn Id is nice, actually.) However, we're still trying to get everything in place for our big NEXTSTEP DOOM II rollout. Since we got the Doom code basically after the PC port was done, you can't expect that we'd release at the same time. -Wil Shipley
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Omniweb? Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:43:20 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <37agp8$frk@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <36vci6$cm5@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Syzygy Systems writes: >Well, I have OmniWeb, but I'd like to know, HOWINHELL do you use the damn >thing?!?! It isn't much good unless you're on some sort of network. Internet is best, although lots of people are setting up private servers on their local networks to distribute internal documentation.
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: more Frame rumours Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:00:33 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <37ahph$fv3@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <9410070617.AA02355@nesteggs.com> "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@nesteggs.com> writes: >In the meantime, maybe some brave soul could actually run 3.2 on their black >color hardware and tell us what's actually changed. Well, I've run Frame 3.2 on my color black hardware! Here's the big bug you're talking about: In the old days, on-screen windows in Frame would be incorrectly promoted to have alpha in them. This is always bad, but some modes worked worse than others. In particular, if the backing store was 2-bit and the display was color, black hardware wasn't optimized to do copies to the display, and would be dog-slow. Lots of people noticed that if you dragged some color into the window, it would promote the backing store, and apparently copying from a color backing store with alpha to a color display wasn't as slow. This didn't appear to be as bad a problem on Intel machines we checked. Frame 3.2 doesn't have alpha on its windows, so the display code is always optimized. There are other bug-fixes and performance enhancements, as well. I recently sent Lighthouse a list of them (they didn't have one), so hopefully they'll prepare a list of reasons why you might want to upgrade. -Wil Shipley
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:51:07 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37ah7r$fso@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com> <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> <JREISS.94Oct8093322@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Joe Reiss writes: >The Omni people said there wouldn't be *music* because it sucked up >CPU, but there will be digitized sounds. I sure HOPE there will be sounds. Right now the sound great on black hardware, but it's hard to keep them in sync on Intel. Luckily, about everyone at NeXT seems to want to see DOOM II kick ass. >For all of us with black hardware, it certainly is a shame to let that >DSP go to waste, though. :-) Tis a shame, but we're pressed for time. Also, we're sort of religiously opposed to finding a solution that only works on a platform that isn't sold any more. Don't get me wrong, 90% of the machines at Omni are old black hardware -- but we like to look towards the future; programming the DSP is a dead end. It sounds cheeky, but our Omni solution to music with DOOM is "play your favorite CD on your CD-ROM". May I recommend Nitzer Ebb?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: Intel Boot Block? Message-ID: <CxG05J.HI@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <372chq$h2h@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 05:48:55 GMT In article <372chq$h2h@newsbf01.news.aol.com> zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog) writes: > After installing dos and Windows for Workgroups on a partitioned scsi > drive I lost the next boot0 option. > Previously at boot I was able to pick NSFIP/dos partition of the drive. > How do I fix the boot block?? Where should I go for more info? > > Thanx, > --rich Boot into NEXTSTEP, if you automatically go into DOS, do step one, otherwise if you go directly into NEXTSTEP, start at step 2. 1) Type fdisk at the DOS prompt and set the active partition to the non-dos partion/NEXTSTEP partion, then reboot the computer. 2) Boot into NEXTSTEP and login as root. 3) Launch Terminal.app. 4) at the prompt, carefully type: /usr/etc/disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a replace rsd0a with the appropriate device. (rsd0a if the first SCSI drive or rhd0a if IDE) That should do it. The next time you reboot the machine, you should see the boot prompt. (BTW, if you have a permanent swap file in windows, it will no longer work. Go into windows and setup a temp one!) If this works, send me $2.00 (minus postage of course) or order VS :^) :^) Ian x-nx --- NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice 415 664-5530 fax NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm), On-Vacation(tm), READIT-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: graphic design software available? Message-ID: <bchin.781720814@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 16:40:14 GMT kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) writes: >I'm thinking of switching to NextStep for Intel (junk dos 6.22, win 3.11) >The only problem is, I'm a graphic designer and use the following software: >Corel 5.0 Virtuoso - it's awesome. Contact the GS Corp. It comes from the makers of Freehand. >Pagemaker 5.0 Check out AFS's PasteUp. In addition, Virtuoso can do some page layout. There's also FrameMaker & Pages, both of which are not direct competitors. >Photoshop 2.5.1 There's Lighthouse Design's WetPaint, and BenchMark Development's TIFFany II. For a different twist in image editing, check out Compose In Color. If you have access to the Web, go to the Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server (http://digifix.digifix.com/) for easy access to NEXTSTEP product information. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: kwl@oldp.uk.stratus.com (Keith W. E. Laidlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPD file for NEC 890xl postscript printer Date: 10 Oct 1994 08:48:36 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <37av54$7o1@transfer.stratus.com> I am trying to use a NEC SilentWriter 890XL Postscript printer on NSFIP v3.2 I've tried to use the supplied PPDs and even tried to hack them around. No Joy. Has anyone else managed to get this printer to work? Any hints? Suggestions? Can anyone help? -- Regards Keith W. E. Laidlaw Stratus Computers; European Support for Databases
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q:ixbuild - include only some sort of files in index Date: 10 Oct 1994 09:02:23 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <37avuv$7ul@news.uni-paderborn.de> Hi all, how to set up the files ".index.ftype" and/or ".index.itype" in a directory so that only files with the extensions "*.h" and "*.m" will be included in the index, but no file like "*~". Thanks in advance for examples, Alfred. _______________________________________________________ _______ /| Salto ergo sum ! / | /__|____ <afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de> / | / | * NeXT Mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: Re: Looking for a 3270 emulator for NS3.2 Intel Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Message-ID: <CxD29H.DBw@lexmark.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 15:41:41 GMT References: <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY In article <Cx8GqA.DIB@cuug.ab.ca> caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw) writes: > The Subject line says it all. > > Thanks in advance. > If you're connecting via TCP/IP, simply use /usr/ucb/tn3270!! If you don't have a TCP/IP connection, 3270 Vision from Conextions (3rd Party CD I believe) - I used it before I got my TCP/IP connection and it worked great. Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com (work) bjanzen@rmii.com (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: Address for IFE Technologies Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Message-ID: <CxD376.5HD@lexmark.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 16:01:54 GMT Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY I've been unable to get ahold of IFE Technologies at the address they posted - Jean J. Dubray, jj@ife.fdn.org. Is there possibly another address, or has anyone gotten ahold of them? Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com (work) bjanzen@rmii.com (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Where do I get (academic) Diagram! in SF? Message-ID: <CxF467.HE@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <KRAFT.94Oct8095701@havra.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 18:18:06 GMT In article <KRAFT.94Oct8095701@havra.dcs.ed.ac.uk> kraft@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Boris Kraft) writes: > does anybody have a contact for LightHouse -- something like > a 800 number would be fine. That's what I got: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. 1-800-366-2279 415-570-7736 415-570-7787 fax Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax Users... Panic's with dialupip? Date: 09 Oct 1994 13:21:09 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: rick@bandw.com,louie@transsys.com I'm just wondering if anybody else is suffering from this problem. On my machine NXFax is enabled all the time however this really don't get on well with dialupip (the original). What happens is that when the connection is brought down there's contention for the serial port which results in a panic. Big time. So... I've played (as suggested by Rick Damon at BandW) with ResetDelay but that's doesn't eliminate the problem. I even resorted to switching off NXFax when ever I poll by hacking the netinfo _ignore flag. That still doesn't work because it's SLIP that invokes the script that does this so it's still in use by SLIP. This is under 3.2 Black with NXFAX 1.04 Anybody else suffered these problems? -- "Helena Helena Helena" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: matlab... Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:09:04 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <941010160905.758AACUn.malc@jeeves> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, I know this has been asked before, and I could have sworn I kept the message, but... Am I right in thinking Matlab hasn't been ported to NEXTSTEP? If I'm wrong, great, otherwise, what was the PD "Matlab clone" that has been mentioned as a useful alterative...? Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 114 276 8555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 282 5569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 114 278 0972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: NeXTSTEP system addresses ....questions...(NS 3.3 ?) Message-ID: <CxF82x.oI@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 19:42:32 GMT Hi! Just started working a little more with NeXTSTEP internal WM addresses stuff and found some strang things in there: - How can I give a person and Image ? I have found that address can drop those icons inside a RTF file but how to tell them to use them ? - How can I cusomize Users.addresses ?? I can't include any kind of information and it does not show the user images (they work with Mail and NG)...but only those black silhouettes. Those are some things NeXT ight think about: - Why doesn't Mail use those .addresses files ? I hate to duplicate work all over the system. - What about specifying the prefered way of connection (E-mail(NeXTmail),Email(MIME),Fax, etc. pp. ?) Aloha Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please Help! NS 3.0 Date: 8 Oct 1994 04:13:05 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <37568h$pk8@core.symnet.net> Could someone please send me a copy of MetroSuction *just* for Black Hardware? I'm running 3.0 and the FAT version won't run. Thanks for any help, -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: graphic design software available? Date: 10 Oct 1994 19:50:30 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37c5u6$ifg@potogold.rmii.com> References: <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> In article <9UXkuAVABh108h@viamar.UUCP> kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) writes: > I'm thinking of switching to NextStep for Intel (junk dos 6.22, win 3.11) Junk dos is a redundancy. Switching to NEXTSTEP is a good idea. > The only problem is, I'm a graphic designer and use the following software: > are there packages similar to these for NextStep for intel? > Corel 5.0 Virtuoso by Atlsys ($995) is the most powerful. > Pagemaker 5.0 FrameMaker by Frame Technology ($1495), PasteUp by Anderson Financial ($695), and Pages by Pages ($495) are all excellent alternatives. > Photoshop 2.5.1 WetPaint by Lighthouse Design ($495) and TIFFany II by benchmark Developments ($695) are available. All of these products are available from OpenSource, as is additional information about them. Let me know if you'd like some. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct10.162150.10144@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <37ah7r$fso@yucca.omnigroup.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:21:50 GMT William Shipley writes > Joe Reiss writes: > > >The Omni people said there wouldn't be *music* because it sucked up > >CPU, but there will be digitized sounds. > > I sure HOPE there will be sounds. Right now the sound great on black > hardware, but it's hard to keep them in sync on Intel. Luckily, > about everyone at NeXT seems to want to see DOOM II kick ass. > > >For all of us with black hardware, it certainly is a shame to let that > >DSP go to waste, though. :-) > > Tis a shame, but we're pressed for time. Also, we're sort of > religiously opposed to finding a solution that only works on a > platform that isn't sold any more. Don't get me wrong, 90% of the > machines at Omni are old black hardware -- but we like to look towards > the future; programming the DSP is a dead end. > > It sounds cheeky, but our Omni solution to music with DOOM is "play your > favorite CD on your CD-ROM". May I recommend Nitzer Ebb? Here's my solution for music support for Doom II. Use the GM music and play it through the midi drivers available with the MusicKit. The new drivers support the MPU-401 midi controller which is found on most sound cards. Additionally many of the wavetable sound cards have a built-in midi interpreter that will play back the midi music with the on-board wavetable sound source. These include the wavetable daughtercards (including TB Rio, CL WaveBlaster, Roland SCD-10 & 15). Other wavetable boards (such as the CL AWE32) require a software midi interpreter which is required in order to play back midi music using the internal sound source. This software midi interpreter could be implemented as a MusicKit compatible midi driver which would work seamlessly with the Doom music support. Additional drivers could be written to play back midi music on the FM sound boards (like the PAS or SB16). We also could see some enterprising folks implement a software wavetable sound source, again implemented as a driver that would support all of the sound cards. I realize that it would eat CPU cycles, but it might be fast enough (especially giving the rising LCD in Intel hardware). I know Turtle Beach has implemented something similar in the DOS/Windows environment for their new inexpensive sound board. I have a strong feeling that if the basic midi support exists in Doom II, there will be enough incentive to get some of the developers out on the Net motivated to write some of these drivers. I might be interested myself if I can get a hold of the programming specs of the AWE32 from Creative Labs. So Omni, how hard would this be? I think the hardest part would be the real-time midi generation. Maybe a separate midi playback server? Oh well, just wishing... -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with MiscKit Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:35:00 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <37c8hk$195@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <CxD3qG.94M@agora.rdrop.com> Scott Christley writes ) I need some help with making the MiscKit; I got the "a" release off of ) the archives but when I did a make it gave me an error that it could not ) find this file: ) ) /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app/tool.make It is a new file (and PB project type) that comes with 3.2... ) I am running NS/FIP 3.1 You really ought to upgrade if at all possible. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom levels ? Date: 10 Oct 1994 12:56:35 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Message-ID: <37bdm3$h8f@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Keywords: Doom and all those cool levels I've seen posts around the net that have been saying that Doom can be loaded with lots of new levels. Also they seem to imply that you can use the PC version data files too. Anyone know of a site that has any freeware ones, or the best place to get these new levels (and prices) ? Also, I see that DoomV2 is out on the market, anyone know whether they will produce a NeXTSTEP DoomV2 ? Andrew D. Forkes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: Re: any SCADA or animation packages for NeXT? Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Message-ID: <CxH8vI.CzK@lexmark.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:54:54 GMT References: <LIM.94Oct7170936@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY In article <LIM.94Oct7170936@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim) writes: > Are there any SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) packages out > there for NeXT? These packages are typically used for process control > applications. I'm primarily interested in animation on NeXT, e.g. tanks > filling, valves opening and closing, material flowing on a conveyor belt, > etc. Comparable pacakges are WonderWare from InTouch, DataViews from VI Corp., > or SL-GMS from SL Corporation. I've looked at all the above mentioned packages, and quite frankly it's not hard to exceed these packages with NEXTSTEP/IB + a couple of palettes + a couple of custom objects. I'm planning on attending the ISA show in Anaheim in 2 weeks to see if there's anything new and exiting on this front. If others are interested, I'd like to start a small group to correspond r.e. these manners (yourself, Ron P - are you there?, and others). Not a NeXT target market, so we need all the support we can get. E-mail me if you're interested. Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com (work) bjanzen@rmii.com (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: benst@stuyts.nl (Ben Stuyts) Subject: Re: NXFax Users... Panic's with dialupip? Message-ID: <CxHA3o.2pB@stuyts.nl> Organization: Stuyts Engineering Haarlem BV References: <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 22:21:23 GMT In article <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk>, Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I'm just wondering if anybody else is suffering from this problem. > > On my machine NXFax is enabled all the time however this really don't > get on well with dialupip (the original). What happens is that when > the connection is brought down there's contention for the serial port > which results in a panic. Big time. > > So... I've played (as suggested by Rick Damon at BandW) with > ResetDelay but that's doesn't eliminate the problem. I even resorted > to switching off NXFax when ever I poll by hacking the netinfo _ignore > flag. That still doesn't work because it's SLIP that invokes the > script that does this so it's still in use by SLIP. > > This is under 3.2 Black with NXFAX 1.04 > > Anybody else suffered these problems? I run the same setup here, without any problems. I am running dialupip version 920904-A, and NXFax 1.04.1, NS 3.2 black. Here are my defaults settings, maybe you can compare them with yours: daneel_fax CallerID NO daneel_fax ConsoleLog YES daneel_fax DetectRing1 NO daneel_fax DialPrefix "" daneel_fax DistinctiveRing YES daneel_fax FaxDataSwitch YES daneel_fax ForcedRetry NO daneel_fax MaxDTERate 38400 daneel_fax MonitorOutgoing YES daneel_fax ResetConfig 0 daneel_fax RingTimeout 10 daneel_fax SilentAnswer NO daneel_fax WaitForConnect 30 daneel_fax WaitForDialTone YES daneel_fax AllowDataReceive YES daneel_fax AllowFaxReceive YES daneel_fax AuxATCommand "" daneel_fax DataAction /usr/etc/getty daneel_fax DetectRing2 NO daneel_fax DetectRing3 NO daneel_fax DetectRing4 NO daneel_fax EscapeValue 43 daneel_fax LogLength 1000 daneel_fax MonitorIncoming YES daneel_fax ResetDelay 10 daneel_fax SendTimeout 90 daneel_fax SoftwareFlowControl NO Hope this helps, Ben
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom levels ? Date: 10 Oct 1994 23:55:21 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <37ck99$s07@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <37bdm3$h8f@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> In article <37bdm3$h8f@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) writes: > > I've seen posts around the net that have been saying that Doom can be > loaded with lots of new levels. Also they seem to imply that you can use > the PC version data files too. Anyone know of a site that has any > freeware ones, or the best place to get these new levels (and prices) ? The main US ftp site for DOOM (including dozens and dozens of free WAD files (ie new DOOM levels or whole new episodes) ) is: infant2.sphs.indiana.edu Freeware/shareware DOOM WADs were pretty ropey at first, but some of the guys writing this stuff are getting very good, and recent ones have been very well done. Some are very funny, and many are lots of fun. -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT (NetDOOM with PCs?) Date: 8 Oct 1994 20:37:56 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <376vv4$5fo@core.symnet.net> References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> > 1)Is NS 3.x sufficient, or will the NeXT version of doom run > only on white hardware? I'm running it on NS3.0 on a NeXTstation. > 2) Is the NeXT version fully-functional? No mouse or sound and *much* slower, but still very playable. ** My question is, has anyone gotten NeXT DOOM to play over the net with non-NeXTstep machines??? It doesn't seem to work with linux DOOM. > 3) (extra credit) It's a long shot, but does anybody know > if the original NeXT wad designer tools are available > anywhere, either from ID or elsewhere? Sure, you can find them on ftp.cs.orst.edu along with the full source code to both the NeXT and PC versions.;) -- Steve Dekorte - dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: EPS Clip Art to Font question Message-ID: <1994Oct10.152529.926@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1994Oct7.011209.18590@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:25:29 GMT In article <1994Oct7.011209.18590@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: }~ Does anyone know what's involved in turning a piece of clip art (i.e. }~ an EPS file) into a character in a font? For a type-1 font this is not trivial, but take a look at the Lexi.font/Lexi which defines a couple of glyphs for Websters. (BTW Lexi is hard-coded OUT of the font panel). --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 11 Oct 1994 01:32:44 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <37d81s$ouo@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. 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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone using Adobe Seperator? Date: 11 Oct 1994 05:47:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <37d8tg$rkq@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> I was wondering if anyone out there is still using Adobe Seperator out there under NS3.2? As I continually move my apps from NS3.0 to NS3.2 I've finally moved Adobe Ill and Seperator. Illustrator seems to be fine except for some minor errors. When I print with Seperator the workspace dies with.. Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: WindowServer: Exception caught: PS-108.1 on host `ascended', user `nobody': Memory access exception on address 0x0: protection failure (SIGBUS), Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: [ pc = 0x99aa Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0xcc6f2 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0xcc7e4 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0xf630 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0x659f4 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0x15ffa Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0x15f5e Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0x65632 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: , from 0x65d44 Oct 11 01:23:57 ascended WindowServer[278]: ] Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Terminal[286]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 3f044, data -102 Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Adobe_Separator[299]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 410a8, data -102 Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Adobe_Separator[299]: Exiting due to Window Server death Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Terminal[286]: Exiting due to Window Server death Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended WM[284]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext b3048, data -102 Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Preferences[285]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 49144, data 0 Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended Preferences[285]: Exiting due to Window Server death Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended BackSpace[287]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 3d038, data 0 Oct 11 01:23:58 ascended BackSpace[287]: Exiting due to Window Server death I was wondering If anyone has experienced this problem under NS3.2 or if there are sucess stories.. Thanks, Randy Rencsok
From: mudog@aol.com (MuDog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Net Doom Question Date: 11 Oct 1994 01:46:09 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <37d8r1$jva@newsbf01.news.aol.com> I've got a cube running NS 3.2 and Doom 1.2. Is there anyway that I can play Deathmatch with a friend who has a 486, short of buying NS/I and/or an Ethernet card? That is, can NS Doom "talk" with DOS Doom over a null-modem cable, or by modem? Thanks in advance, Josh Neal mudog@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: Shareware Communications package Message-ID: <CxHuFw.1AJ@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 05:40:43 GMT Looking for a shareware comm package...does anybody know of a FTP site that would have one? Catch 22....can't download it, don't have comm software...help thanks... eric(new nextuser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 06:05:03 +0000 Message-ID: <9410110551.AA04024@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In comp.sys.next.software article <377u42$h9b@nic-nac.CSU.net> you wrote: > > Which version of Windows do you have? We're using 3.1 and even checking the box to conform with Adobe Postcript standard (or whatever it says) doesn't seem to help. We have noticed though, that using Word6 is bettre that Word 2..... It's far from perfect though .. John -- -- John I. Stephen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: PPD file for NEC 890xl postscript printer Message-ID: <CxHuxH.EpL@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <37av54$7o1@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 05:53:37 GMT Keith W. E. Laidlaw (kwl@oldp.uk.stratus.com) wrote: : I am trying to use a NEC SilentWriter 890XL Postscript printer on NSFIP : v3.2 : I've tried to use the supplied PPDs and even tried to hack them around. No : Joy. : Has anyone else managed to get this printer to work? Any hints? : Suggestions? Have you looked for a more recent PPD at ftp.adobe.com? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Diagram 2 clone on Motif Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:23:57 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <37dljd$fee@vega.info.isbiel.ch> I've here an exact clone of Diagram 2 on a SUN (Motif). It name is VisualThought from Confluent Inc (vthought@confluent.com). Any comments ? Oli
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOOM for the NeXT??? Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:53:59 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37cr7n$39i@anshar.shadow.net> References: <thompsonCx864y.HrA@netcom.com> <1994Oct7.113832.13642@FreemanSoft.com> Joe Freeman (joe@FreemanSoft.com) wrote: : In article <thompsonCx864y.HrA@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric : Thompson) writes: : > Also, Omni is apparently working on Doom II for NS.. : > Eric : And, they appear to have done their usual excellent work. I got to see it : last week and it looked very fast on Intel, NeXT and HP , with sound : support. (Now the question is "was I allowed to say that I'd seen it?") When might OmniDoom be released, and will it come with the Doom II WAD? I've already purchased the Doom II CD (I couldn't resist), so I already own the registered WAD. Lastly, has pricing been set by Omni? - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I want Adobe Acrobat Reader for NEXTSTEP! Date: 11 Oct 1994 12:39:21 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <37e11p$qkr@nic-nac.CSU.net> In case you hadn't heard, the *free* distributions of Adobe Acrobat Reader 2.0 for Macintosh and Microsoft Windows are finally available for anonymous FTP. Now where's that triple-fat NEXTSTEP version? :-) -=EPS=- -- Just to make Scott Anguish happy: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub%2Fadobe%2FApplications%2FAcrobat/"> Adobe Acrobat Reader available via anonymous FTP</A>
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFF-viewer for multi-page documents Date: 11 Oct 1994 13:42:45 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <37e4ol$7nh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> hello, is there any program around which allows to view multi-page TIFF-files (such as created by scanning a multi-page document) under NeXTstep ( black hardware )? I do know of a solution under X, but this is not what I am looking for. thanks in advance -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329 Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419 Universitaet Heidelberg email: me@nextww.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Philosophenweg 16 D-69120 HEIDELBERG
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:29:36 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> hello, the Preview.app does a pretty bad job on PS-files created from TeX output with dvips and a resolution of say 300 dpi. Without magnification (zoom) the display is essentially unreadable. This makes NeXT's a bad platform to access databases for scientific publications ( TeX-files with Computer Modern Roman fonts piped through dvips). In contrast to the Preview.app, the public domain GhostScript interpreter ( under X ) handles these types of documents very well, i.e. is able to use bitmaps for the characters appropriate for the display. NeXT is often considered superior due to its Display PostScript capabilities. But here the first time, there is a situation where NeXT provides us with a tool which is inferior. Can anybody ( e.g. NeXT ) comment on this? thanks in advance -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329 Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419 Universitaet Heidelberg email: me@nextww.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Philosophenweg 16 D-69120 HEIDELBERG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app bug? RR doesn't go to Reply To: Message-ID: <1994Oct11.082008.186@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 11 Oct 94 08:20:08 CST Followup-To: poster Organization: As little as I can get away with... Is this a well known bug? Return Receipts don't seem to go to the address in Reply-To. Is there a fix? -- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (Scott Davenport) Subject: anyone compiled patch for NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct11.143805.2786@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:38:05 GMT I need to use the patch utility but NeXT doesn't supply it. I downloaded the source for it, but have been unable to compile. Has anyone successfully compiled patch on NS/Intel 3.2? If so, what were the settings given while running the Configure program? Thanks for any help. -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!)
From: ddp@base.bellcore.com (David Pascua) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:00:02 GMT Organization: Bell Communications Research Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37e5p2$ioi@athos.cc.bellcore.com> References: <1994Oct6.211430.1601@sfov1.verifone.com> <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com> In article <373j4h$471@transfer.stratus.com>, Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote: > writes >> >> 1) Is NS 3.x sufficient, or will the NeXT version of doom run only on >white >> hardware? > >Currently, you can get a NeXT version of Doom 1.2 Shareware from >ftp.cs.orst.edu. It runs under 3.2, and is MAB. I run it on Intel, but >I've seen it run on cube. > It runs on NS 3.0 as well. -dave
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Canon printer drivers. Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:42:18 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37eipq$20s@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37agts$8m2@coyote.rain.org> In article <37agts$8m2@coyote.rain.org> stalker@coyote.rain.org (Milar Cole) writes: > Does anyone have or know where I can get a driver for the Canon > BJ-200 or BJ-200e printer for NSFIP 3.2 ? > > Milan Cole > stalker@rain.org DOTS Mono ($149) is what you need. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Shareware Communications package Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:31:03 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <37ei4o$e0i@pong.ping.at> References: <CxHuFw.1AJ@usa.net> Originator: wa@s051 In article <CxHuFw.1AJ@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes: > > Looking for a shareware comm package...does anybody know of a FTP site > that would have one? If you don't mind running the comm package in a terminal window: I have done a port of xc (a well known UNIX comm programm with phonebook, script language and some other nice features) to NeXTStep. Compiles and runs under black and white hardware; it is not on a ftp-server but I could send it to you if you want -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: any SCADA or animation packages for NeXT? Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:53:18 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37ejee$25t@potogold.rmii.com> References: <LIM.94Oct7170936@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> In article <LIM.94Oct7170936@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim) writes: > I'm primarily interested in animation on NeXT, e.g. tanks > filling, valves opening and closing, material flowing on a conveyor belt, etc. solidThinking by Gestel Italia might be a solution. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter vs. ImageViewer services tip... Date: 11 Oct 1994 12:14:14 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941011181346.482AACUt.malc@jeeves> References: <199410111704.SAA17299@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Oops... I hope I haven't confused people: I only use OmniImage filter -- not McFilter. The amendments to the services file should be made to the services file in ImageViewer.app. The fact that you've put what I guess is ImageViewer.app with an unmodified services file (?) in /LocalApps explains why it gets to handle everything first... Does this make sense? Have fun, mmalcolm. Re: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:04:20 +0100 From: Holger Hoffstaette <hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de> Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter vs. ImageViewer services tip... To: Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Hi! I tried your tip about ImageViewer.app's services file, but unfortunately it doesn't work. The situation is this: OmniImage in /LocalApps OmniImageFilter in /LocalLibrary/Services McFilter in "" So, I fiddled with the services file like you described in your posting, moved OmniImage out of /LocalApps (out of the WM path), put the modified ImageViewer in there, log out and back in, and - surprise! - McFilters aren't called anymore. Do you have any idea why this happens? Holger -- Holger Hoffstdtte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
From: hoff@sorge.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter vs. ImageViewer services tip... Date: 11 Oct 1994 12:27:54 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410111827.A4649-0100000@sorge> References: <941011181346.482AACUt.malc@jeeves> > The amendments to the services file should be made to the services file i= n > ImageViewer.app. That's what I did. > The fact that you've put what I guess is ImageViewer.app with an unmodifi= ed > services file (?) in /LocalApps explains why it gets to handle everything > first... >=20 > Does this make sense? No. At least not to me. :-) I really modified the services file in ImageViewer.app. I'm not a guru on filters, but somehow ImageViewer isn't playing to the rules.. Oh well, back to OmniImage. (Wil, could we have scrollbars? Please. :-) =09Holger -- Holger Hoffst=E4tte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ U= X++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++= n+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: NeXT rtf -> ASCII rtf Message-ID: <1994Oct11.144721.12314@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <941009225248.758AACUI.malc@jeeves> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:47:21 GMT In article <941009225248.758AACUI.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: >> I have a professor who needs a utility to convert a NeXT rtf file into >> a standard ASCII rtf file so he can share his word processing documents >> between his NeXT and his Windows machine. Can anyone point me at a >> utility or a method of doing what he wants to do? Many thanks... >> > ?Don't understand... > > NeXT rtf should be the same as rtf on other platforms (at least the > "text" (chars) part of it should be -- as to whether some formatting > instructions are followed...) Not exactly. For one thing, other RTF platforms don't know RTFD, so if the file contains graphics, you're SOL. Also, the NeXT character encoding vector is different from Windows, so upper ASCII characters come out the other side incorrectly unless you remap them. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:32:19 GMT Message-ID: <37ei73$fet@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Werner Wetzel writes > hello, > the Preview.app does a pretty bad job on PS-files created from TeX output > with dvips and a resolution of say 300 dpi. .. > Can anybody ( e.g. NeXT ) comment on this? Have you ever tried to print such file on a 600 dpi printer, or a 400 dpi tex-postscript file on a 300 dpi printer? The output will be horrible. This is no lack of postscript. It's this dreadful Computer Modern font - thanks to Donald Knuth for all the good things he brought to us, this certainly isn't one. Back when tex was written there was written metafont along with it. A program capable to produce fonts for any kind of resolution with equal quality. No bad thing, as long as you hand around the device independent stuff, i.e. the dvi's, and can create the font for your appropiate resolution. Handing tex documents around in postscript is evil. tex postscript is no 'real' postscript. The fonts are encoded for a certain resolution. This is dreadful. (Sorry, I'm forced to use tex every day. I don't like it. Frame is no alternative for me.) I always use tex together with postscript fonts like Times. This does avoid the problem to some extend. You still won't be able to produce postscript formulas in a tex document (EquationBuilder does this so neatly). But you get rid of the computer modern font for the rest. This causes the dvi files to be understood only by a few dvi viewers, but the postscript output of dvips is more usable. I'm certainly of the opinion that your problem is no fault of NeXT's Preview app but the fault of the scientists. TeX is getting __THE__ standard and it really shouldn't. We should start using apps that produce 'good' postscript and hand that around. I'm going to test Pages in the next days. Maybe this is going to be my solution in combination with EquationBuilder. Sorry, if I said before: I don't like tex, I should rather say: I hate tex. And at our university they all worship it !@#$%^&*() So consider all my above comments in this light. -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: mmap and munmap for userdb and sendmail 8.6.9 on NEXTSTEP Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:13:17 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <37ekjt$5l0@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> Our campus sendmail expert says he can't provide the userdb to go with sendmail 8.6.9 because NEXTSTEP has an undocumented mmap and no munmap which the db library needs. I thought I saw a posting in one of the NeXT news groups saying someone had this working. If someone has an answer, we'd appreciate hearing from you. thanks -paul paul.buster@Colorado.EDU
From: stan@atlantis104.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TIFF-viewer for multi-page documents Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:46:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <37emhe$i1c@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <37e4ol$7nh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <37e4ol$7nh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) writes: > hello, > is there any program around which allows to view multi-page TIFF-files > (such as created by scanning a multi-page document) under NeXTstep ( black > hardware )? I do know of a solution under X, but this is not what I am > looking for. > thanks in advance > > -- > Well, you may want to check out TIFFany II - I think it does exactly what you want (ftp.cs.orst.edu). - Stan --- +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ | Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | "Forty-two!" yelled | | SU Computer Science | Loonquawl. "Is that all | | Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 4396 | you've got to show for | | stanj@leland.stanford.edu | seven and a half | | NeXTmail anytime welcome! | million years' work?" | +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:39:37 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? Chris Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Diagram 2 clone on Motif Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:48:38 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <37eq6m$isj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <37dljd$fee@vega.info.isbiel.ch> In article <37dljd$fee@vega.info.isbiel.ch> schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) writes: > I've here an exact clone of Diagram 2 on a SUN (Motif). It name is VisualThought > from Confluent Inc (vthought@confluent.com). > Any comments ? Here at UM we call it plagiarism. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ignore my 3270 request Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:52:15 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <37eqdf$l2l@network.ucsd.edu> Sorry folks, I didn't think that many people were looking for a 3270 emulator, but I found the obvious answer (/usr/ucb/tn3270) in this very newsgroup. Sorry for the redundant post. Chris
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mmap and munmap for userdb and sendmail 8.6.9 on NEXTSTEP Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:02:11 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Iiaix3600iUx86pWxW@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <37ekjt$5l0@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Oct-94 mmap and munmap for userdb .. by Paul Buster@spot.Colorad > Our campus sendmail expert says he can't provide the userdb to go > with sendmail 8.6.9 because NEXTSTEP has an undocumented mmap and > no munmap which the db library needs. Why would you or he need to compile the Berkeley version of the db library? NeXT provides the ndbm library with the developer libraries, and that works perfectly well. (I know it works because I'm using sendmail 8.6.7 & NeXT's ndbm right now with zero problems, but I've got a standalone machine. People with NetInfo networks should probably use the NetInfo interface that newer versions of sendmail are supposed to support.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Multi-Master font for PS/DPS? (was: I want Adobe Acrobat Reader for ___) Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript Date: 11 Oct 1994 20:32:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <37esov$j1v@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <37e11p$qkr@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <37e11p$qkr@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >In case you hadn't heard, the *free* distributions of Adobe >Acrobat Reader 2.0 for Macintosh and Microsoft Windows are >finally available for anonymous FTP. Now where's that triple-fat >NEXTSTEP version? :-) Tailor.app from FirstClass can import PDF/Acrobat files for reading and conversion to PS. But, there won't be any hyper-text type links in the imported document. The real problem with this scheme is that the most PDF documents would not look right unless all kinds of PS fonts are installed on the NS machine. A major benefit of PDF, the multiple master font, is lost once converted. A larger question for me is wheter Adobe plans to incorporate the multiple master font technology into their PS and DPS products. I can see that PDF/Acrobat and PS/DPS address somewhat different but overlapping needs. But the multiple master font is something that is very useful for both, and PS/DPS don't have it. NEXTSTEP or any other DPS-based system should "just work", but it just doesn't currently, if appropriate PS fonts are not available. Similarly, any PS printer should be able to print PS jobs containing any font more-or-less correctly without having all the specified fonts in ROM/Disk. PDF's multiple master font technology solves that problem, and I just wonder why it's not in PS/DPS. Is Adobe trying to shift to Acrobat/PDF from PS? Although I am sure they will deny that if publicly asked, what's the real story? What's the impression you get as people who constantly work with PostScript? P.S. ITC ZapfDingbats, and the basic 13 PS fonts come with the free distributions. Does that mean that users of Ghostscript (on non-NeXT platforms) get to use real PS fonts now legally and for free, once they install acrobat reader on their system (not necessarily on the platform for which the free reader was made available)? -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Date: 11 Oct 1994 21:41:25 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37f0q5$4pn@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> In article <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) writes: > > Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? Yes, Cables by Yrrid is a series of terminal emulations for NEXTSTEP. The IBM 3270 version sells for $339 and is available through OpenSource. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app bug? RR doesn't go to Reply To: Date: 11 Oct 1994 20:47:03 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <37etk7$qk@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Oct11.082008.186@titan.sfasu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.5a Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu In article <1994Oct11.082008.186@titan.sfasu.edu>, J. Kelly Cunningham <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> wrote: > >Is this a well known bug? Return Receipts don't seem to go to the address >in Reply-To. Is there a fix? Yes, this is a well known bug, fixed in 3.3's Mail. --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT rtf -> ASCII rtf Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:41:32 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <941011214132.482AACUu.malc@jeeves> References: <941009225248.758AACUI.malc@jeeves> <1994Oct11.144721.12314@afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > NeXT rtf should be the same as rtf on other platforms (at least the > > "text" (chars) part of it should be -- as to whether some formatting > > instructions are followed...) > > Not exactly. For one thing, other RTF platforms don't know RTFD, so if the > file contains graphics, you're SOL. Also, the NeXT character encoding > vector is different from Windows, so upper ASCII characters come out the > other side incorrectly unless you remap them. > I stand corrected -- my apologies for misleading. Thanks to Greg for the information. My only defence is that I've never noticed any problems, but then of course if NEXTSTEP if "just working", I wouldn't... <humbly> Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: NXFax Users... Panic's with dialupip? Message-ID: <CxJ3BA.228@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:49:57 GMT robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: >I'm just wondering if anybody else is suffering from this problem. >On my machine NXFax is enabled all the time however this really don't >get on well with dialupip (the original). What happens is that when >the connection is brought down there's contention for the serial port >which results in a panic. Big time. >So... I've played (as suggested by Rick Damon at BandW) with >ResetDelay but that's doesn't eliminate the problem. I even resorted >to switching off NXFax when ever I poll by hacking the netinfo _ignore >flag. That still doesn't work because it's SLIP that invokes the >script that does this so it's still in use by SLIP. >This is under 3.2 Black with NXFAX 1.04 >Anybody else suffered these problems? >-- > "Helena Helena Helena" > (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) > (ASCII for text only messages) I don't know if it is the same problem as above but when using SBook to auto dial a number, the TTMF dialing is AOK but the OH (Off Hook) is immediately dropped. Thus, the touch tone dialing function is not usable. --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTML editor for NS_FIP? Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:26:15 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37f3e7$19j@pdx1.i.net> Are there any HTML editors out there that run under NSFIP? If so, Where can I optain it? Thanks -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications steve@eps.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom levels ? Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:37:06 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37f42i$9je@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37bdm3$h8f@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Andrew D. Forkes (forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk) wrote: : I've seen posts around the net that have been saying that Doom can be : loaded with lots of new levels. Also they seem to imply that you can use : the PC version data files too. Anyone know of a site that has any : freeware ones, or the best place to get these new levels (and prices) ? : Also, I see that DoomV2 is out on the market, anyone know whether they : will produce a NeXTSTEP DoomV2 ? WAD files are the same, regardless of platform. The 1.2 registered WAD from the DOS version of Doom can be used with Doom.app (Doom.app comes with the shareware wad). In order to patch in other Wad files, you must first have the registered Doom Wad. Wads can be found on infant2.sphs.indiana.edu Omni is developing a NeXT version of Doom II, which has sound and interceptor support, so it should be fast. I have no idea when they'll be ready to release it (soon, I hope). - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app question(blackRelease3.0) Date: 11 Oct 1994 10:28:50 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <37dpd2$88r@core.symnet.net> References: <379plp$cmp@agate.berkeley.edu> Jessica L Mosher writes > Hi all, > > I wondering if there was a way to move read(red) mail into other > .mbox files in > Mail.app, like (ouch, hate saying this) SunOS Mail. Just select a message or group of messages in the scroll matrix of message titles, hit "copy" then select the other mbox window and hit "paste". As a general rule with NeXTstep, just ask your self how you would like to be able to do something, and then try it. Chances are, it works. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax Users... Panic's with dialupip? Date: 11 Oct 1994 20:32:12 -0500 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <37feas$m83@edwin.bga.com> References: <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <ROBERT.94Oct9142109@steffi.demon.co.uk>, Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I'm just wondering if anybody else is suffering from this problem. > >On my machine NXFax is enabled all the time however this really don't >get on well with dialupip (the original). What happens is that when >the connection is brought down there's contention for the serial port >which results in a panic. Big time. > <deleted> > >This is under 3.2 Black with NXFAX 1.04 > >Anybody else suffered these problems? >-- > "Helena Helena Helena" > (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) > (ASCII for text only messages) Last month I was putting MorningStar's PPP on my machine (Black 3.3) and was getting a similar problem (I also had NXFax 1.04). I would panic several times a day. I finally decided to bag it and removed the PPP stuff. Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world. bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands (NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:54:02 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science Message-ID: <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <37ei73$fet@aragorn.unibe.ch> In-reply-to: willers@butp.unibe.ch's message of 11 Oct 1994 17:32:19 GMT I use TeX, and I hate the language. But the quality of the output is unsurpassed (assuming you match your PostScript generation to the final output device). If *any* other program could format text as beautifully as TeX and share the quality and flexibility of its math typesetting, I'd gladly switch. In the meantime, we should distribute documents as dvi files (which requires including separate files for any \special inclusions, like PostScript files) instead of PS files. Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Re: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Message-ID: <CxJKy5.62J@prosoft.wimsey.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. References: <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 04:10:53 GMT Christopher Penrose writes > > Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? > > Chris Penrose > penrose@ucsd.edu /usr/ucb/tn3270 comes with the system. I assume this is a 3270 emulator. -- Glen Biagioni <glen@prosoft.com> (NeXTmail accepted) Vancouver BC Canada
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ph for Gopher.app Date: 11 Oct 1994 03:25:54 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <37d0k2$hsl@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: Ph,Gopher Hello, Will somebody please direct me to Ph for Gopher.app. Thanks! Alan
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AquariumView.BackModule - where??? Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:52:50 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <37f502$q3@machthenext.dannug.dk> Hi, Can anyone out there point me to a server containing the AquariumView.BackModule??? I have all the extra fish, but no bowl to put them in! If someone already has the module, and don t mind using some bandwidth, please feel free to NeXTmail me, at the address below.... Thanks! Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTML editor for NS_FIP? Date: 12 Oct 1994 05:32:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <37fsdh$4mm@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <37f3e7$19j@pdx1.i.net> In article <37f3e7$19j@pdx1.i.net> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes: >> Are there any HTML editors out there that run under NSFIP? If so, Where >> can I optain it? >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Steven Kornreich >> Kornreich Communications >> steve@eps.com There are two - NeXus and eText Get NeXus somewhere from Cern ... and eText from etext.caltech.edu -- _________________________________________________________________________ Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199410120445.AA188997154@relay2.geis.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 22:34:00 UTC Cc: matthew@netcom.netcom.com Subject: Nova CD-ROM Matthew R. Meyer > Has anyone checked out the Nova CD-ROM from walnut Creek? I heard it's >supposed to be filled with a bunch of NeXT stuff. Is it worth shelling the >money out for it? Yes, I think it is, but I'm VERY biased since I made it!!! Don't take my word for it, here's a comment I received last week about the Nova... >Item 7058460 94/10/07 07:07 >From: TKREPS@NETCOM.COM >Subject: NOVA >To: eric@cdrom.com >Hi Eric, >Just wanted you to know how much I love the NOVA CDROM. It is great! >Is Walnut Creek CDROM planning developing any other NeXT supported CDROM's? >Thanks again. It the most useful CDROM I own. >Tim So I think this letter speaks for itself. Eric "E.T." Tremblay Walnut Creek CDROM
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nova CD-ROM Date: 12 Oct 1994 07:21:16 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37g2pc$b64@news.onramp.net> References: <matthewCxB8HA.1pL@netcom.com> In article <matthewCxB8HA.1pL@netcom.com> matthew@netcom.com (Matthew R. Meyer) writes: > Has anyone checked out the Nova CD-ROM from walnut Creek? I heard it's supposed to be filled with a bunch of NeXT stuff. Is it worth shelling the money out for it? I have been using it for a while. I have not been very impressed with it. Most of the apps are old and the sounds and music are boring and poor quality. It does have a lot of good fonts though! -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beyret@chbs.ciba.com (Tim Eyres) Subject: Re: Mosaic for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Oct10.092829.27959@ciba-geigy.ch> Sender: news@ciba-geigy.ch Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd.,Basel,Switzerland References: <36k325$mf7@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 09:28:29 GMT ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) writes: > Does anyone know where to get Mosaic for NeXT? I don't want it for > Xwindows, just NeXT. Thanks! > > ============================Jon Sacharuk================================ > I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck > Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying > Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -Jon Sacharuk > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca++++++++++++++++++++ > > Try ftp.cs.orst.edu for Mosaic for X windows but I haven't found an x-windows Mosaic yet Tim
From: jantzen@ccmitpa.univ-lyon1.fr (Eric Jantzen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A good getty for NeXTStep 2.2 ??? Date: 12 Oct 1994 09:50:11 GMT Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon Message-ID: <37gbgj$2dk@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Hello, I search a getty which work with NeXTStep. Something like mgetty+sendfax. thank's -- ----------------------------------------------------- Eric Jantzen | jantzen@ccmi.univ-lyon1.fr U.C.B.L. | France | -----------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Public domain X server for NeXTStep for Intel Message-ID: <CxIGn2.JA@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <373782$i5a@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:40:14 GMT In article <373782$i5a@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com> andrewh@nextstep (Andrew Holt Local) writes: > Well the heading says it all, is there a version of MouseX for > Intel No. Only the two commercial solutions Co-Xist and Cub'X-Windows. Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: HTML editor for NS_FIP? Message-ID: <1994Oct12.064022.1346@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <37fsdh$4mm@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 06:40:22 GMT > >> Are there any HTML editors out there that run under NSFIP? If so, Where > > There are two - NeXus and eText > > Get NeXus somewhere from Cern ... and eText from etext.caltech.edu > -- Also, James Powell's HTML-Editor version 0.5 might run on Intel. I use it on Motorola. It can be found on borg.lib.vt.edu -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 10:58:54 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <37gfhe$25ro@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Why don't you preview you TeX docs as .dvi files? -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: tcsh: triple fat ??? Message-ID: <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 12 Oct 94 10:26:33 +0100 Keywords: tcsh, fat binaries, GNU Distribution: world Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Hi, I am looking for a triple fat version of the tcsh shell. Is there any available? I didn't manage to install the gnu version of tcsh correctly, so maybe someone else was more successful. Thanks in advance for all hints. Kind regards Jochen --- ===================================================================== Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM =====================================================================
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTML editor for NS_FIP? Date: 12 Oct 94 12:17:14 Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <ried.94Oct12121714@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys> References: <37f3e7$19j@pdx1.i.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > Are there any HTML editors out there that run under NSFIP? If so, Where > can I optain it? > Thanks > > -- > Steven Kornreich > Kornreich Communications > steve@eps.com > Don't forget auc-tex - html-Mode for GnuEmacs 19. Available on most ftp-sites in the auc-tex-dir. File "auc-html.el". it's the best way to write pure HTML which can be modified on another system. stef ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Ried E-Mail : ried@garfield.theo-phys.uni-essen.de Telefon: 0049 201 183 3529 University GHS Essen, FB7, Physik, 45117 Essen, F.R.Germany working on electro-hydrodynamic convection in liquid crystals ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q]: Error Message for "HTImage" while using OmniWeb on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct12.103617.16839@urz.unibas.ch> From: kuhn@ifi.unibas.ch (Walter Kuhn) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:36:17 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Hi there, while installing and testing a WWW-Server (cern), i got the following error: when i use a certain sensitive picture, i get (on the second time i am clicking in this picture) the following message in my OmniWeb Browser: Error calling HTImage: Invalid QUERY_STRING: '' expecting either x,y or x=x&y=y However the link while be followed, my browser shows after that error page the correct page. When i use Mosaic under CubX, no error is shown. On the other side, i have another picture (on another path) where no error occurs. I checked a lot of things (like acces to files), but i didn't found out what i am doing wrong. Please answer by mail. Many thanks in advance. Walter -- Walter Kuhn email: kuhn@ifi.unibas.ch Institut fuer Informatik, Mittlere Strasse 142, CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 12 Oct 94 12:18:32 GMT References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <37ei73$fet@aragorn.unibe.ch> <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). [discussion about TeX-generated postscript is such a pain because of its resolution=dependent fonts which are unreadable with DPS (also on a DEC \alpha) but OK with ghostscript] Note that for instance gnuplot has an option 'pslatex' which generates in-line postscript with all the labelling etc. done in (La)TeX. This means one can distribute _one_ .dvi file with graphics, and you have all the math power in the labels without learning Yet Another Greek Alphabet. Another interesting development in this direction is hyperlatex, which gives hyperlinks a la WWW inside your document for free (all crossreferences) and to the outside world --- on the NeXT. As Motif does not have services, mosaic cannot cooperate quite as nicely with xdvi as OmniWeb does with TexView. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh [Fighting the MS-Word gang trying to prohibit us to use LaTeX.]
From: fell@binah.cc.brandeis.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newsgrazer and OmniWeb Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:24:02 GMT Organization: Brandeis University Message-ID: <37gv2i$al@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Having just established a ppp connection for my turbo, I would like to install Newsgrazer and OmniWeb. Can someone direct me to the appropriate archive sites from which I may retrieve these? Thanks, Dick Fell
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:44:05 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <37h085$nvt@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> In article <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) writes: > I use TeX, and I hate the language. But the quality of the output is > unsurpassed (assuming you match your PostScript generation to the > final output device). If *any* other program could format text as > beautifully as TeX and share the quality and flexibility of its math > typesetting, I'd gladly switch. In the meantime, we should distribute > documents as dvi files (which requires including separate files for > any \special inclusions, like PostScript files) instead of PS files. > > Chris PostScript is a standard to exchange information and as such it is very useful. In my opinion the strategy should be to keep the standard holy and improve on the tools. Why can NeXT not do as good as the programmers of GhostScript? Werner -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329 Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419 Universitaet Heidelberg email: me@nextww.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Philosophenweg 16 D-69120 HEIDELBERG
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail transfer... how?? Keywords: SLIP mail Message-ID: <10691@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 12 Oct 94 11:58:54 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA So I finally got myself a real SLIP connection... ftp and OmniWeb are both working just great. The question is, how is mail forwarded to my home machine? All of the examples I have seen use UUCP to dial out and fetch the mail. Is a hybrid of this method used, e.g. a shell script brings up the connection and UUCP does the transfer? I am running PNI on a black cube. Please, if you say RTFM, please reference which 'FM' I need to look at. Likewise, if anyone has pointers on how to forward news, I would like to hear it. thanx, -peter (email responses please...) ///// ////// //////// ///// /////// /// // /// /////// /// // /// /// /// // /// // /// /// /////// /// // //////// /// // /// //////// /// // ///////// /// /// // Peter Greis EQA Engineer 508 658-0200 x5988 fax 657-8643 greis@cg-atla.agfa.com ...!{decvax}!cg-atla!greis ==> Adobe Registered Developer <==
From: gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax support excellence Date: 12 Oct 1994 09:17:06 +1000 Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.42bis Message-ID: <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> I find that all too often people spend time to bag a software supplier when they have a bad experience but do not praise when they have a good experience with the support people. Well, I would like to take this opportunity to say that the support people at Black and White in particular Rick Damon are great. I use an Australian made modem that used an early version of the class 2 fax spec. I could not for the life of me get it to work with NXFax although it worked fine with other older software. I sent email to Rick at bandw and he talked me though some things to test and info he needed. Ultimately, it turned out to be my problem and my cost to fix but the support I got in arriving at that conclusion was excellent. Thanks Rick. Greg Shaw.
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 17:44:58 GMT Message-ID: <37h7aq$6n3@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <37h085$nvt@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Werner Wetzel writes (again!): > Haven't we been clear enough? > > PostScript is a standard to exchange information and as such it is very > useful. In my opinion the strategy should be to keep the standard holy Yea, do so. Don't produce PostScript documents from dvi files! One good thing about PostScript are the outline fonts. The good thing about dvi files is their device independence. > and improve on the tools. Yes! Improve TeX. or come up with something else. or use PostScript fonts in your TeX documents. > Why can NeXT not do as good as the programmers of GhostScript? They are doing different things. NeXT is build on DPS. GhostScript is for people without such terrific PostScript tools as we on the NeXT. Ok, Preview is not _the_ killer app. It does a fair job and nothing more or less than what it claims. BTW. have you ever opened a TeX-PostScript document with Tailor :-)))) -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: se11@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Eligulashvili) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Needed SLIP software for intel based and Motorola Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:03:46 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <37h8e2$rj1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Sorry if the same question has been asked before, -- I'm new to this newsgroup. We want to connect an Intel based machine running NeXTStep to Motorola machines using SLIP connection. Can anyone tell me where I can get a SLIP software that will run both on Intel and Motorola machines? Thanks a lot in advance, /Simon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> Organization: Cities in Dust Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 18:27:53 GMT Hi, the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? Thanks, Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Services no longer run Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:27:47 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct12.152747.13716@cyantic.com> I just discovered that all my Services no longer run from any application menu. I can't be sure if this is the problem, but a few weeks ago I transferred my home directory from my local Next machine to a remote Sun server and now access it via NFS. Everything works fine for file access, and there are no other symptoms of problems. In fact, I think I ran Open Sesame from the services menu since I did the switch. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: carlos@kane.ece.ucsb.edu (J. C. De Martin) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: tex and latex update for a NeXTstation: how? Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:47:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <37hb0n$of2@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> I work on a NeXTstation (v2.1) with the following (La)TeX configuration: * CTeX, NeXT Version 3.1a; * LATEX VERSION 2.09 <7 Dec 1989>. Has any NeXT user out there already faced the problem of upgrading to TeX 3.141a and LaTeX2e? If so, could you please send me e-mail about the suggested steps? Thanks a lot, --juan carlos _____________________________________________________________________ Juan Carlos De Martin "solitaire, solidaire" carlos@kane.ece.ucsb.edu (Albert Camus)
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Shareware Communications package Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:11:34 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <37hcd6$17c@pong.ping.at> References: <CxHuFw.1AJ@usa.net> Originator: wa@s051 In article <CxHuFw.1AJ@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes: > > Looking for a shareware comm package...does anybody know of a FTP site > that would have one? If you don't mind running the comm package in a terminal window: I have done a port of xc (a well known UNIX comm programm with phonebook, script language and some other nice features) to NeXTStep. Compiles and runs under black and white hardware; it is not on a ftp-server but I could send it to you if you want -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax support excellence Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:11:48 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <37hcdk$17t@pong.ping.at> References: <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Originator: wa@s051 In article <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: > I find that all too often people spend time to bag a software supplier when > they have a bad experience but do not praise when they have a good experience > with the support people. Well, I would like to take this opportunity to > say that the support people at Black and White in particular Rick Damon are > great. Yes, they are. -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Anyone installed LaTeX2e? Message-ID: <CxKD2v.50C@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 14:18:30 GMT Just wondering, is there anything special to know before getting into this installation? Thks --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: mikef@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ph for Gopher.app Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:14:40 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <37hcj0$nl5@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <37d0k2$hsl@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> In article <37d0k2$hsl@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) writes: > Hello, > Will somebody please direct me to Ph for Gopher.app. Thanks! > > Alan There is a client on ftp.cs.orst.edu. I can't remember where, though. There's also a client here: ftp://directory.purdue.edu/pub/ph/clients/next/next.tar.Z The one on orst is old (as in 2.1 era). The one on directory.purdue.edu claims to have been hacked up to compile for 3.0. I seem to remember having to hack it up some more to compile it for 3.3. If you want, I can upload my binary. This Ph client really could be improved. I'd be willing to improve it if people thought that there was actually a demand. Is there a demand? -- Mike Fleming mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu http://hillres22.cc.purdue.edu/~mikef "Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"--T.S.Eliot "...shaped together in real-time: my television and my subconscious mind..."--Machines of Loving Grace
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mail... Keywords: mail, netinfo Message-ID: <10694@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 12 Oct 94 17:21:59 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA This is more of an admin question, but here goes... If I have a SLIP connection to my home machine, do I have to turn on netinfo and configure the home machine as a mail server? The NeXT SysAdmin book is a little vague on this point; lots of help for using UUCP, but nothing about transfering mail with a SLIP connection. Anyone done this? email would be appreciated... -peter ///// ////// //////// ///// /////// /// // /// /////// /// // /// /// /// // /// // /// /// /////// /// // //////// /// // /// //////// /// // ///////// /// /// // Peter Greis EQA Engineer 508 658-0200 x5988 fax 657-8643 greis@cg-atla.agfa.com ...!{decvax}!cg-atla!greis ==> Adobe Registered Developer <==
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:11:13 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <37hcch$srv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <37ei73$fet@aragorn.unibe.ch> <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Geert J v Oldenborgh (t19@nikhef.nl) wrote: : [discussion about TeX-generated postscript is such a pain because of its : resolution=dependent fonts which are unreadable with DPS (also on a DEC : \alpha) but OK with ghostscript] BTW, in the meantime, there are true PS Type 1 versions of the Computer Modern font famlily on CTAN (true in the sence that they are converted from the Metafont source and not from bitmap files). You just need to place them in NeXT's font library, generate .vf files for TeX (virtual font descriptions) and tell TeX a little bit about them setting some environment variables, and TeXview and dvips will use them instead of their Metafont relatives. Advantages: -nearly instant response for any magnification (no metafont runs); - no extra space needed for additional resolutions; - same quality for Preview as for TeXview (since dvips output still uses vector fonts, and not fixed-resolution PK bitmap fonts). - Can distribute PS files with embedded CM PS fonts for PS-optimal output on any PS printer. - Can use CM fonts with any NeXT program ;-) Disadvantages: - Your Font panel is _flooded_ with TeX fonts (more than hundred!!) - if you work all the times with only one or two different resolutions, MF sources and PK files will be smaller. At higher resolutions, there should be nearly no quality loss with the PS fonts; at lower resolutions (e.g. on-screen) quality could be enhanced by converting PK files to screen bitmap PS files (as it's done for all the NeXT-supplied PS fonts). But for another point: I don't think that ghostview/ghostscript is any better at displaying those dvips-made .ps-files. One bad point about those files is the fixed-resolution font that's used. No ps-previewer can cope with this. On the other hand, PostScript previewers suffers from missing anti-aliasing. I'm quite sure that you were talking about xdvi, not ghostview. xdvi in its newest version seems to use ghostscript for embedding PS graphics and so on. xdvi uses anti-aliasing, and therefore seems to be much smoother. On the other hand, there's also a TeXview with anti-aliasing built in. If we are on it, perhaps you could tell me what else features you're missing for the existing NeXT-TeX (apart from L2E pre-configured and so on ;-). Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:20:54 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Geert J v Oldenborgh (t19@nikhef.nl) wrote: : [discussion about TeX-generated postscript is such a pain because of its : resolution=dependent fonts which are unreadable with DPS (also on a DEC : \alpha) but OK with ghostscript] I think the solution is obvious, make Postscript versions of Computer Modern fonts --- *INCLUDING* THE MATH ONES. Why hasn't this happened in the what, NINE YEARS, since the laserwriter and TeX? -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Needed SLIP software for intel based and Motorola Date: 12 Oct 1994 22:11:48 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37hmv4$ii5@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37h8e2$rj1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> In article <37h8e2$rj1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> se11@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Eligulashvili) writes: > > Sorry if the same question has been asked before, -- I'm new to this newsgroup. > > We want to connect an Intel based machine running NeXTStep to Motorola machines > using SLIP connection. > Can anyone tell me where I can get a SLIP software that will run both on Intel and Motorola machines? Off the ftp.cs.orst.edu site you should be able to get TranSys PNI. Should do the trick. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: michael@gspring.com (Michael James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb for NS 2.1 ????? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:59:01 GMT Organization: GreenSpring Computers Message-ID: <michael-121094140116@198.93.137.19> To all, The subject says it all... I have tried downloading OmniWeb but it doesn't like running on my NS 2.1 system. I do not wish/cannot upgrade to 3.2 or newer. Is there such a beast? Thanks, Michael James GreenSpring Computers michael@gspring.com
From: mcnichol@khan.syr.edu (Brendan T. McNichols) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 12 Oct 1994 21:48:02 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> Hi all, I need to find a Common Lisp interpreter which will run under NeXTstep 3.2. I can't use emacs because emacs lisp is far different than common lisp, even with the common lisp package, lot's of common lisp features are not there. Does anyone out there know if there is a common lisp package, free or commercial, available? Thanks VERY much in advance, Brendan -- Brendan T. McNichols, Computer Support mcnichol@syr.edu (NeXT) Syracuse University Mathematics Dept. (315) 443-1588 (work) 215 Carnegie Hall (315) 443-1475 (FAX) Syracuse, NY 13244 (315) 682-1553 (home)
From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any comm software for NS *with source* ? Date: 12 Oct 94 21:36:29 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <af.781997789@iaka> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, I'm still trying to submit a fix for the problem of ppp-2.1.2 not detecting loss of carrier during an outgoing call on NS 3.2/black (at least). The pppd process fails to get SIGHUP for some reason, although it does make the tty line used for dialout its controlling tty (just like tty(4) suggests). I reported this as a bug to NeXT, but got no reply beyond the automatic acknowledgment. Since the uucico delivered with NS *does* get SIGHUP, I would assume that there is some way to do this, and that the documentation is just wrong/incomplete. So, I'd like to have a look at any piece of async comm software that has been explictely ported to NS or developed for it (to the source code, actually), to check if someone figured this out. No, kermit doesn't do The Right Thing obviously. It has little NS-specific code anyway (if any). Would anyone please point me at various pieces of software ? E-mail would be better I guess, no need to clutter the group. Thanks in advance. _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail please) Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-]
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax support excellence Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:40:55 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <37hhkn$cfr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> In article <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes: > I find that all too often people spend time to bag a software supplier when > they have a bad experience but do not praise when they have a good experience > with the support people. Well, I would like to take this opportunity to > say that the support people at Black and White in particular Rick Damon are > great. I'll second this - I've had nothing but excellent experiences with Black & White, and with NXFax. Great job guys - both with a superb product and with superb staff and attitude! -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 13 Oct 1994 00:28:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <37huul$qpq@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> In article <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: > > I think the solution is obvious, make Postscript versions > of Computer Modern fonts --- *INCLUDING* THE MATH ONES. > > Why hasn't this happened in the what, NINE YEARS, since the laserwriter > and TeX? It has happened. CTAN has some public domain CM fonts and Blue Sky has been selling a commericial version for at least 5 years. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Using NXHost (or Distributed Objects) over SLIP Date: 13 Oct 1994 03:29:42 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <37i9j6$b0k@core.symnet.net> References: <CxF349.81s@news.cis.umn.edu> > > > Bill Tschumy writes > > > > Does anyone know how to get NXHost to work over SLIP? It works, but it's *extremly* slow. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: TerryH@ix.netcom.com (Terry Haggin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nova CD-excellent Date: 13 Oct 1994 00:48:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <37i04m$qe0@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Hi, I have to second the above post on the Nova CD Rom. I am in the middle of reviewing it and it is packed with excellent stuff, over 660 mgs for around $60.00. As soon as I finish, I will post it into the NeXT FAQ's. Sincerely, Terry
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Victor the Cleaner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sounds for Doom Date: 13 Oct 1994 04:24:25 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <37icpp$s1r@galaxy.ucr.edu> How do I get the .wad for files for DOS Doom to work with Doom.app? Any help anyone could get would be greatly appreciated... Thanks in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: Anyone using Adobe Seperator? Message-ID: <1994Oct13.010216.526@mixcom.com> Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin) Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139 References: <37d8tg$rkq@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 01:02:16 GMT Adobe Separator for NEXTSTEP DOES NOT work on 3.2 You may want to try to relink the app with the 2.2 libraries, but the problem may be with the PS version, so that won't cure it. If you need more information on how to do this, let me know. --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321 alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Date: 12 Oct 1994 16:41:36 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <37h3k0$qpa@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> In article <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) writes: > > Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? > > Chris Penrose > penrose@ucsd.edu tn3270 bundled with NeXTSTEP. Works well with Stuart or Terminal, but not pretty. 3270vision from conextions. I don't remember the price, but the function is very good. Write info@conextions.com for more info. --- Geoff ____________________________________________________________________________ Geoffrey Brunkhorst Brunkhorst.Geoffrey@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: sams@nbivax.nbi.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preview as default opener for .tif files? Message-ID: <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> Date: 12 Oct 94 23:06:04 +0100 Organization: Niels Bohr Institute and Nordita, Copenhagen Preview is the default opener for .ps and .tiff files. Is it possible to make it the default opener for .tif tiles too? (I'm creating the files under msdos and would like to keep the same names.) Thomas
From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone installed LaTeX2e? Date: 13 Oct 1994 08:29:39 GMT Organization: University of Tuebingen Message-ID: <37ir5k$3i1@wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <CxKD2v.50C@athena.ulaval.ca> In article 50C@athena.ulaval.ca, antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: >Just wondering, is there anything special to know before getting into this >installation? > Just follow the instructions coming with the LaTeX2e package. I've installed it with no problems at all. Bye, Harald --- Harald Lauer Those health nuts will look Wilhelm-Schickard Institut fuer Informatik stupid someday, lying in Universitaet Tuebingen hospital dying of nothing.
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <2996@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 13 Oct 94 09:56:58 GMT References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <37ei73$fet@aragorn.unibe.ch> <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <37hcch$srv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). In article <37hcch$srv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >BTW, in the meantime, there are true PS Type 1 versions of the Computer >Modern font famlily on CTAN (true in the sence that they are converted >from the Metafont source and not from bitmap files). You just need to >place them in NeXT's font library, generate .vf files for TeX (virtual >font descriptions) and tell TeX a little bit about them setting some >environment variables, and TeXview and dvips will use them instead of >their Metafont relatives. > >Advantages: munge. >Disadvantages: mungemunge. Could you enlighten us where these fonts are found, and how to install them? I am only aware of the commercial version. >But for another point: I don't think that ghostview/ghostscript is any >better at displaying those dvips-made .ps-files. One bad point about >those files is the fixed-resolution font that's used. No ps-previewer can >cope with this. On the other hand, PostScript previewers suffers from >missing anti-aliasing. No, I am definitely comparing ghostscript/view to DPS. With the former one can easily read the TeX document, with the latter it is hopeless (also on other platforms than NeXT). I think it has to do with the algorithms on how to fill out pixels which are partly covered: DPS drops too many. Scott? The antialiasing in the new xdvi is really smooth. Where can I get a TeXview which takes advantage of my 2 bits/pixel? Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: ward@kafka.bwl.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Unfriendly TeX Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:01:36 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> "Use TeX" they said. What a nightmare! I'm used to the ease of WINWORD but now that I have to write formulas am stuck with TeX. Does anyone know of a wordprocessor which is as easy to use as WINWORD but which would enable me to write formulas? The best thing would be somekind of add-on package for WINWORD. One further complication: it has to run with Next. Ideas gratefully received. Stephen Ward ward@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 13 Oct 1994 09:09:19 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <37jbhv$ggg@oclc.org> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> Thomas Wolfram (thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de) wrote: : Hi, : the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? Contrary to what I'd been expecting, I got info from my NeXT rep yesterday saying that NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 is currently on target to ship in the first half of December 1994. 8-( -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a kind soul with 3.1 system Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:29:40 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <37jco4$ir4@news1.digex.net> Hi, I'm looking for someone who can compile a program for me under NextStep 3.1. I recently upgraded to 3.2 and had a crash which took out one particular utility that I really liked. (It was in /bin instead of /usr/local/bin, so it didn't get backed up...) This utility won't compile under 3.2, but runs like a charm. If you have such a system and can compile something for me, please let me know. Thanks, David.
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ph for Gopher.app Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:36:43 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <37jglr$u1e@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <37hcj0$nl5@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <37hcj0$nl5@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> mikef@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming) writes: [munch] The one on orst is old (as in 2.1 era). The one on directory.purdue.edu claims to have been hacked up to compile for 3.0. I seem to remember having to hack it up some more to compile it for 3.3. If you want, I can upload my binary. This Ph client really could be improved. I'd be willing to improve it if people thought that there was actually a demand. Is there a demand? I use Ph (NS 2.1 version) fairly often to find people here at PSU and consider it to be a very handy tool. I'd be interested in any improvements or enhancements. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:43:19 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jh27$nja@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Stephen Ward writes > "Use TeX" they said. What a nightmare! I'm used to the ease of > <censored> but now that I have to write formulas am stuck with TeX. so are most of us, sigh. > Does anyone know of a wordprocessor which is as easy to use as > <censored> but which would enable me to write formulas? The best thing > would be somekind of add-on package for <censored>. One further > complication: it has to run with Next. If you don't need all the indexing, toc, tof, tot, crossreferencing, ... stuff: Try WriteUp with EquationBuilder or PasteUp with EqB or OpenWrite with EqB or Pages with EqB or ... Frame, WordDefect. In random order. But you know this is an ancient topic which caused alread a lot of Frame wars. (see also thread: 'Preview.app inferior to Ghostscript'?) and: How dare you mentioning W**W*** -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: tex and latex update for a NeXTstation: how? Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:41:22 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <37hb0n$of2@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> J. C. De Martin (carlos@kane.ece.ucsb.edu) wrote: : I work on a NeXTstation (v2.1) with the following (La)TeX configuration: : * CTeX, NeXT Version 3.1a; : * LATEX VERSION 2.09 <7 Dec 1989>. : Has any NeXT user out there already faced the problem of upgrading to TeX : 3.141a and LaTeX2e? : If so, could you please send me e-mail about the suggested steps? Better than that, if anyone has experience and/or suggestions, please post them. (Or... pass on the info to me too (-; ). -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: me@julio.uafhp.uark.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.0 to 3.2: worth it? Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:52:23 GMT Organization: University of Arkansas Message-ID: <37jl3n$3kf@wizard.uark.edu> Keywords: OS, upgrade, 68040 Greetings... I just sent this message to the other nextstep news group, so I'm sorry if you're seeing it twice. (Is there a way to cross-post using NewsGrazer?) I am running NextStep 3.0 on a 68040 NeXT cube, with a NeXTDimension board. I have the developer version and occasionally write my own custom apps, although they are really not much more than graphical front ends to some of the routines in "Numerical Recipes in C". Obviously, I am not a Fortune 500 corporation, just a humble physics professor somewhere in Arkansas; no doubt this is why NeXT didn't even bother to let me know about the 3.1 and 3.2 releases of their OS. My question is: should I upgrade to 3.2? I really have no idea what new features it offers. I suppose some bugs may have been fixed, but what are they? Has interface builder or project builder been improved in any way? Are there any new cool demos? Is virtual memory management any more efficient? Those are my main concerns right now, but any information will be appreciated. For some reason I'm under the impression that the 3.2 upgrade is much more important to people running NextStep on Intel boxes, but I wouldn't want to miss anything I might really have some use for. Thanks in advance, Julio Gea-Banacloche NeXT mail welcome
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview as default opener for .tif files? Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:21:55 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jqbj$shl@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> In article <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes: >Preview is the default opener for .ps and .tiff files. Is it possible >to make it the default opener for .tif tiles too? (I'm creating the >files under msdos and would like to keep the same names.) Edit __header section of __ICON Mach-O segment in executable /NextApps/Preview.app/Preview. Extract __header using segedit, edit it to add a line for "tif" and put it back using segedit again. See "man segedit" or just type the command without args. It should be obvious what to do from the following. % segedit Preview -extract __ICON __header ~/header % cat ~/header F Preview.app Preview app F Preview Preview app S ps Preview ps S tiff Preview S eps Preview @ -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:13:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jps2$i6s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> In article <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> mcnichol@khan.syr.edu (Brendan T. McNichols) writes: > I need to find a Common Lisp interpreter which will run under NeXTstep > 3.2. There are several. The free ones are gcl and clisp. gcl is available from ftp.cli.com (for more info, download the file "gcl.README" from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu). Clisp is a free lisp available via anonymous ftp from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2], directory /pub/lisp/clisp/. For the NeXT, get the precompiled form in the clisp directory binaries/next.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: Regenerating NeXT-supplied indexes Message-ID: <1994Oct13.153951.1463@afs.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: michael@afs.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:39:51 GMT What exactly are the ixbuild options NeXT uses to generate the indexes for the documentation directories they ship with NS? I have to regenerate the index for the man pages, plus I'd like to gen some indexes for my own stuff in the same way. Thanx, Michael --- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB!
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.0 to 3.2: worth it? Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:11:26 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37k0ou$2co@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37jl3n$3kf@wizard.uark.edu> In article <37jl3n$3kf@wizard.uark.edu> me@julio.uafhp.uark.edu (My Account) writes: > Greetings... > > I just sent this message to the other nextstep news group, so I'm sorry if > you're seeing it twice. (Is there a way to cross-post using NewsGrazer?) > > I am running NextStep 3.0 on a 68040 NeXT cube, with a NeXTDimension > board. I have the developer version and occasionally write my own custom > apps, although they are really not much more than graphical front ends to > some of the routines in "Numerical Recipes in C". Obviously, I am not a > Fortune 500 corporation, just a humble physics professor somewhere in > Arkansas; no doubt this is why NeXT didn't even bother to let me know > about the 3.1 and 3.2 releases of their OS. > > My question is: should I upgrade to 3.2? I really have no idea what new > features it offers. I suppose some bugs may have been fixed, but what are > they? Has interface builder or project builder been improved in any way? > Are there any new cool demos? Is virtual memory management any more > efficient? Those are my main concerns right now, but any information will > be appreciated. For some reason I'm under the impression that the 3.2 > upgrade is much more important to people running NextStep on Intel boxes, > but I wouldn't want to miss anything I might really have some use for. Being a relatively recent convert to NEXTSTEP and not a developer by any means, I can only speak to the compatibility of third-party applications. Of the 150+ third-party applications offered through OpenSource, I would venture to say that over 80% of them require at least 3.1 to operate. That alone, I think, would justify the $299 you would have to spend to get the NEXTSTEP 3.2 User/Developer Academic Bundle from NeXT. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: geekie@eehpx42.cen.uiuc.edu (geekie james francis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax/Modem software help Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:15:06 GMT Organization: UIUC Engineering Workstation Labs Distribution: world Message-ID: <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Does anyone know where I can get fax software for my NeXT? What kind of modem is necessary? I am fucking clueless, and need a fax/modem. Thanks, Jim
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:15:22 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <37jtfq$aao@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: : Geert J v Oldenborgh (t19@nikhef.nl) wrote: : : [discussion about TeX-generated postscript is such a pain because of its : : resolution=dependent fonts which are unreadable with DPS (also on a DEC : : \alpha) but OK with ghostscript] : I think the solution is obvious, make Postscript versions : of Computer Modern fonts --- *INCLUDING* THE MATH ONES. : Why hasn't this happened in the what, NINE YEARS, since the laserwriter : and TeX? Ok. There are in fact free CM Postscript fonts. You'll find them on all CTAN servers (e.g. ftp.shsu.edu, ftp.tex.ac.uk or ftp.dante.de) in tex-archive/fonts/postscript/cm. As far as I can see these are _all_ the CM fonts, including math fonts, and this arises a certain problem: Postscript has just one outline description for each font. For different font sizes it just scales them up or down. TeX on the other hand is more sophisticated: A small font's outline is significant different than a large one's: If you would scale up the small one to the same size, it would be much wider, for example. This is how typesetting used to be before Postscript: The fonts were customized to their size, and not just scaled. Take the cmr (Computer Modern Roman) font for example: There's cmr5, cmr6,7,8,9,10,12 and 17. Regardless of the resolution of the output device, the cmr10 outline will be used for letters that are 10 typographical points high. Postscript instead would use only one font for all sizes If you now just would like to replace the Metafont-driven CM fonts with their PS counterparts without changing TeX's formats, you still have to supply the whole set of fonts, cmrXX, only as PS versions. You would get instant previewing (i.e. without Metafont being called), and you still could preview any 'foreign' DVI-File at DPS quality. If you would decide to use only one out of each set of fonts (e.g. cmr12 for cmrXX), but TeX still takes its width information from different cmrXX.tfm files (and would therefore be backwards compatible with older documents), large and very small letters would have wrong widths. Maybe it would be possible to mimic the different cmrXX outlines with a slight scaling of the PS fonts in one direction. I have to try that. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> Subject: Anyone with Canon's PowerHouse Systems, or NeXT PowerPC effort? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941013034249.19332C-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 07:50:00 GMT I would like to correspond with anyone who was involved in the original NeXT dual PowerPC workstation effort or who is now working with the PowerHouse subsidiary of Canon. As I posted from my America On-Line account the other day, I am researching the PPC platform shift for my PhD. I have come to the conclusion that Canon has the most interesting contribution to make amongst the non-big-three part of the PPC group. They have NeXT Step software, extremely interesting video and I/O stuff from their object.station line, are strategically placed in Japan and also have a bunch of other technologies that IBM is interested in like color inkjet and s promising LCD technology. I am thinking that the Canon-IBM relationship has the potential to become extremely strong and interdependent. Anyone have anything they'd be willing to share? I can establish my purely academic credentials if that is important. Also does Canon/Powerhouse have a WWW server of anonymouus FTP site that would have any interesting documents? Thanks a bunch. Matt
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail... Keywords: mail, smtp, POP Message-ID: <10695@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 13 Oct 94 17:01:10 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA Question of the day: I now have SLIP running from my home to a service provider. That works just fine. I have been told that my options for getting mail working in both directions is to use either SMTP, or POP. Any opinions on this? Which is easier? What's more flexible? And lastly, where can I find the POP software? If anyone has done this, I would appreciate hearing your opinion... thanx, -peter P.S. Send e-mail please... greis@cg-atla.agfa.com
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax/Modem software help Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:31:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37k1us$2h3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> geekie@eehpx42.cen.uiuc.edu (geekie james francis) writes: > Does anyone know where I can get fax software for my NeXT? What kind of modem is necessary? I am fucking clueless, and need a fax/modem. > In comp.sys.next.software article <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> you wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get fax software for my NeXT? What kind of modem is necessary? I am fucking clueless, and need a fax/modem. > Get NXFax from Black and White Software. It works with practically any modem (Practical Peripherals, US Robotics, Hayes, Zxyel, etc.) They gave me excellent support in tracking down a problem which turned out to be a bad PROM in my modem. You can obtain a demo by anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.orst.com under software/NeXT/demos/comm/NXFax1.04.tar Black & White Software: Phone: 1-802-496-8500 Fax: 1-802-496-5112 e-mail: nxfax@bandw.com I would suggest getting a 14.4 kbaud modem, since it is about the best deal at the moment. If you have $$, then get a 28.8 for 2-3x the cost. Eric
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb and term Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:53:27 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Oct13145327@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> Has anyone managed to get OmniWeb running over a term link? If so, how was it done? Thanks, Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:26:05 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <CAP.94Oct13152606@NOVA.cmu.edu> References: <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> <37huul$qpq@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> In-reply-to: Hal.Varian@umich.edu's message of 13 Oct 1994 00:28:05 GMT In article <37huul$qpq@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes: > > I think the solution is obvious, make Postscript versions > > of Computer Modern fonts --- *INCLUDING* THE MATH ONES. > > > > Why hasn't this happened in the what, NINE YEARS, since the laserwriter > > and TeX? > It has happened. CTAN has some public domain CM fonts and Blue > Sky has been selling a commericial version for at least 5 years. This thread started with someone saying that distributing TeX output as PostScript is problemmatic because of the device dependence in the bitmap fonts. But using PostScript CM fonts doesn't help unless you convince everyone to grab a copy. Won't happen. Chris
From: fruits@cgs.edu (Eric Fruits) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX Date: 13 Oct 1994 20:44:23 GMT Organization: The Claremont Graduate School Message-ID: <37k677$ljj@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> References: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> In article <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>, ward@kafka.bwl.univie.ac.at () says: > >"Use TeX" they said. What a nightmare! I'm used to the ease of WINWORD but now that I >have to write formulas am stuck with TeX. Does anyone know of a wordprocessor which is as >easy to use as WINWORD but which would enable me to write formulas? The best thing >would be somekind of add-on package for WINWORD. One further complication: it has to run >with Next. I'm also used to using WW, but now I use WW as a pseudo-text-editor and have the final product produced in LaTeX2e. It is much easier than TeX, and I still get the ``nifty'' features of WW such as thesaurus, grammar, etc. Try LaTeX, I like it ... so far. ------------------ Eric Fruits Internet: fruits@cgs.edu The Claremont Graduate School Phone: 909/621-8074 Department of Economics FAX : 909/621-8390 Academic Computing
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:33:08 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> <37jps2$i6s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: >In article <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> mcnichol@khan.syr.edu (Brendan T. >McNichols) writes: >> I need to find a Common Lisp interpreter which will run under NeXTstep >> 3.2. >There are several. The free ones are gcl and clisp. >gcl is available from ftp.cli.com (for more info, download the file >"gcl.README" from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu). >Clisp is a free lisp available via anonymous ftp from >ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2], directory >/pub/lisp/clisp/. For the NeXT, get the precompiled form in the clisp >directory binaries/next. Great news! Would anyone like to comment on the strengths and weaknesses? Which do you like best? Also, is kcl available for NEXTSTEP? Thanks, --David Finton
From: ccwf@russel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: tex and latex update for a NeXTstation: how? Date: 14 Oct 1994 01:00:45 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <37kl7u$nj5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <37hb0n$of2@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu> In article <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu>, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote: >J. C. De Martin (carlos@kane.ece.ucsb.edu) wrote: >: Has any NeXT user out there already faced the problem of upgrading to TeX >: 3.141a and LaTeX2e? >: If so, could you please send me e-mail about the suggested steps? >Better than that, if anyone has experience and/or suggestions, please >post them. (Or... pass on the info to me too (-; ). Perhaps you could write about specific problems. I didn't have any major difficulties in getting these working on my systems. -ccwf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: anjrober@ziti.journalism.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) Subject: communications software Message-ID: <Cxn2sq.2n3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:29:13 GMT Does anyone know where I can get a decent freeware or shareware GUI based communication application. I need something that will work with a 14.4 modem and allow me to change protocals (xmodem, kermit, etc.). Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also if you could please email me any info I would be grateful, I do not have the time to keep up with this group. Thanks -- --Andrew--
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:04:02 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <37jtfq$aao@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Oct-94 Re: Preview.app inferior to.. by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un > Postscript has just one outline description for each font. For different > font sizes it just scales them up or down. TeX on the other hand is more > sophisticated: A small font's outline is significant different than a > large one's: If you would scale up the small one to the same size, it > would be much wider, for example. I'm sorry, but PostScript also allows one to create rasterized bitmaps for specific pixel sizes. PostScript has the most sophisticated font management system of any screen drawing language being used to the best of my knowledge. TeX is certainly not better than PostScript in any sense. > This is how typesetting used to be before Postscript: The fonts were > customized to their size, and not just scaled. Take the cmr (Computer > Modern Roman) font for example: There's cmr5, cmr6,7,8,9,10,12 and 17. > Regardless of the resolution of the output device, the cmr10 outline will > be used for letters that are 10 typographical points high. > > Postscript instead would use only one font for all sizes Wrong. Take a look at the directory '/NextLibrary/Fonts/Times-Roman.font': % ls Screen-Times-Roman.10.afm Screen-Times-Roman.9.afm Screen-Times-Roman.12.afm Times-Roman Screen-Times-Roman.14.afm Times-Roman.afm Screen-Times-Roman.18.afm Times-Roman.bepf Screen-Times-Roman.7.afm This font has bitmaps for 7,9,10,12,14, & 18 points. Or '/NextLibrary/Fonts/Helvetica.font': % ls Helvetica Screen-Helvetica.12.afm Screen-Helvetica.8.afm Helvetica.afm Screen-Helvetica.14.afm Screen-Helvetica.9.afm Helvetica.bepf Screen-Helvetica.18.afm Screen-Helvetica.10.afm Screen-Helvetica.7.afm ...which has bitmaps for 7,8,9,10,12,14, & 18 points. And read the manpage for prebuild: " In NEXTSTEP a font is stored in the filesystem as a direc- tory whose name is that of the font, followed by a .font extension; for example, Helvetica-Oblique.font. The .font directory must contain at least the outline and afm files for the font, and optionally the bitmap file for the font. So, Helvetica-Oblique.font would contain the outline file Helvetica-Oblique, the AFM file Helvetica-Oblique.afm, and possibly Helvetica-Oblique.bepf (see below). Some fonts also have AFM files for specific point sizes of screen bit- map fonts; for example, Screen-Helvetica-Oblique.10.afm for 10-point Helvetica Oblique." -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax support excellence Date: 14 Oct 1994 05:22:27 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <37l4ij$6eb@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <37hhkn$cfr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> > (Greg Shaw) writes: > > I would like to take this opportunity to > > say that the support people at Black and White in particular Rick > > Damon are great. > > I'll second this - I've had nothing but excellent experiences with > Black & White, and with NXFax. Great job guys - both with a superb > product and with superb staff and attitude! > > -- > andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) Me too. I had some problems with making PNI Slip and NXFax run together. Rick was able to diagnose the problem right down to the level of the firmware version in the modem I was using. Once I'd upgraded to the modem version that works correctly, NXFax and Slip run just fine together. Rick's service was expert and immediate. On top of this, the product (for those of you who don't have it) is just terrific. NXFax is really what a NeXT .app should be: it's cleanly designed, a snap to use, and it *just works* every time. -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax support excellence Date: 13 Oct 1994 06:58:27 -0700 Organization: runner Message-ID: <37jee3$lvd@runner.uucp> References: <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <37hhkn$cfr@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Andrew Abernathy (andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com) wrote: : In article <37f6diINN6b3@godzilla.zeta.org.au> gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au : (Greg Shaw) writes: : > I find that all too often people spend time to bag a software supplier : when : > they have a bad experience but do not praise when they have a good : experience : > with the support people. Well, I would like to take this opportunity to : > say that the support people at Black and White in particular Rick Damon : are : > great. : I'll second this - I've had nothing but excellent experiences with : Black & White, and with NXFax. Great job guys - both with a superb : product and with superb staff and attitude! I agree. If all tech support was as good as B & W's then there would be no bad experiences with support people. -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rdb@ktibv.uucp (The Graphical Gnome) Subject: Re: tex and latex update for a NeXTstation: how? Message-ID: <1994Oct14.085034.7263@ktibv.uucp> Organization: KTI BV References: <37hb0n$of2@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu> <37kl7u$nj5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 08:50:34 GMT ccwf@russel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) writes: >In article <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu>, >Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote: >>J. C. De Martin (carlos@kane.ece.ucsb.edu) wrote: >>: Has any NeXT user out there already faced the problem of upgrading to TeX >>: 3.141a and LaTeX2e? >>: If so, could you please send me e-mail about the suggested steps? >>Better than that, if anyone has experience and/or suggestions, please >>post them. (Or... pass on the info to me too (-; ). >Perhaps you could write about specific problems. I didn't have any >major difficulties in getting these working on my systems. >-ccwf I do not know about installing TeX, but latex2e is a snap. I installed a new version LaTeX2e from scratch (just to get rid if the crumbs laying behind) in about 30 minutes. -- R.E. den Braasem aka The Graphical Gnome (rdb@ktibv.nl)
From: asteindl@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at (Alois Steindl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 14 Oct 1994 09:20:19 GMT Organization: Inst. f. Mechanics II, TU Vienna Message-ID: <ASTEINDL.94Oct14102019@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at> References: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:04:02 -0400 Hello, I think you missed the point: cmr17 is DIFFERENT from cmr10, (it has quite different metrics and outlines, not just scales) whereas the bitmap fonts for different pixel sizes are just well rendered bitmaps with the same proportions. I would suggest that one compares cmr17 to cmr10 scaled by 70% and Times-Roman at 10pt to TR an 17pt. Kind regards Alois -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Alois Steindl, Tel.: +43 (1) 58801 / 5529 Inst. for Mechanics II, Fax.: +43 (1) 5875863 TU Vienna, A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10 Email: asteindl@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at ___________________________________________________________________________
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <2997@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 14 Oct 94 09:48:53 GMT References: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). In article <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> infidel+@CMU.EDU (Charles William Swiger) writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Oct-94 Re: Preview.app >inferior to.. by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un >> Postscript has just one outline description for each font. For different >> font sizes it just scales them up or down. TeX on the other hand is more >> sophisticated: A small font's outline is significant different than a >> large one's: If you would scale up the small one to the same size, it >> would be much wider, for example. > >I'm sorry, but PostScript also allows one to create rasterized bitmaps >for specific pixel sizes. PostScript has the most sophisticated font >management system of any screen drawing language being used to the best >of my knowledge. TeX is certainly not better than PostScript in any >sense. Wrong. The discussion was not about whether or not to have bitmaps for specific resolutions (this is just an implementation detail), but whether you use one, linearly scaled font for all sizes (postscript), or change significant aspects of your design as you scale up or down (TeX/Metafont). In a postscript, a 5pt Times-Roman scaled up a factor of two is identical to a 10pt Times-Roman, but in TeX these are completely different. This means that if you use postscript cmr fonts (and I am tempted to) you get a new font for each design size of the font: cmr5, cmr6, cmr7, cmr8, cmr9, cmr10, cmr11, cmr12, cmr17, ... which quickly gets boring in the fontpanel. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Date: 14 Oct 1994 10:22:41 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <37lm5h$2npf@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:44:47 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Distribution: world Message-ID: <941014114447.271AACUg.malc@jeeves> References: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > I have to write formulas am stuck with TeX. > Does anyone know of a wordprocessor which is as easy to use as > WINWORD but which would enable me to write formulas? The best > thing would be somekind of add-on package for WINWORD. One further > complication: it has to run with Next. > > Ideas gratefully received. > Best thing to do is get hold of Equation Builder, which allows you to create equations WYSIWYG-ly, and then output them in PostScript and/or TeX format. Wonderful application. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb and term Date: 14 Oct 1994 07:08:08 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct14030809@poincare.cs.jhu.edu> References: <CRATH.94Oct13145327@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> In-reply-to: crath@bnr.ca's message of 13 Oct 1994 18:53:27 GMT In article <CRATH.94Oct13145327@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) writes: Has anyone managed to get OmniWeb running over a term link? If so, how was it done? Ok. First I'll assume you have term working. You need the cern httpd server for the remote end. Look around www.cern.ch for a binary for your platform. Edit the proxy.conf file to reflect the remote machine's directories, etc. (I'll assume you left the port at 8080.) Then invoke it as httpd -r proxy.conf. On the local side, fire up OmniWeb and select preferences. Pull up Proxies. "Add new proxies for": http, ftp, wais, news, and gopher. Put this in the text field each time: http://localhost:8080/ The trailing slash is important. Click on OK. Quit OmniWeb. From a local shell: tredir 8080 where.httpd.is.running:8080 Fire up OmniWeb again. Click on Omni Development Inc./Software Products. Click on Kong. After a couple minutes, watch Opener magically launch, then a Workspace browser magically appear with Kong.app. Double click on Kong.app. Wasn't that cool? "IT JUST WORKS!" note: If you get little square icons with X's through them, where images ought to be, it means you need to install OmniImageFilterServices. Might as well grab OmniImage too. (There should be a way to get it to work with ImageViewer, but I haven't figured that out yet.)
From: benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu (Ben E. Cline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:29:29 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <37ltj9$kc5@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: > > >In article <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> mcnichol@khan.syr.edu (Brendan T. > >McNichols) writes: > >> I need to find a Common Lisp interpreter which will run under NeXTstep > >> 3.2. > [Stuff deleted] > Also, is kcl available for NEXTSTEP? > > Thanks, > > --David Finton I use the Austin version, AKCL, available from rascal.ics.utexas.edu in pub/NeXT-akcl-1-615.tar.Z. This is probably for black hardware only. I find AKCL to be a fairly full-featured common lisp. Benjy -- Benjy Cline, AC4XO Virginia Tech Computing Center benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: s0uasa@fnma.COM (Asha Augusty) Subject: Tel# for MicroMaps/MapArt Message-ID: <1994Oct14.125042.1370@almserv.uucp> Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp Organization: Fannie Mae Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:50:42 GMT MicroMaps/MapArt used to have EPS Maps for the NeXT. Does anyone know how to get in touch with them? Thanks. Asha.
From: ward@kafka.bwl.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with keyboard Date: 13 Oct 1994 12:49:54 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Distribution: All Message-ID: <37jadi$9eh@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Keywords: keyboard We have recently bought Soft PC for NextStep and use it to run WINWORD. All is well except that sometimes we can only get capital letters! This has nothing to do with Lock Caps and appears to be intermittent. Has anyone else experienced this problem and does anyone know of a solution? Ideas gratefully received. Stephen Ward ward@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:24:45 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: world Message-ID: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> <37lm5h$2npf@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? : All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. Heard it should be available by the end of November. : : -- : // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // : // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // : // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pdepuydt@uia.ac.be (Peter.Depuydt) Subject: Re: Looking for a kind soul with 3.1 system Message-ID: <1994Oct14.140907.27376@reks.uia.ac.be> Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System) Organization: U.I.A. References: <37jco4$ir4@news1.digex.net> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:09:07 GMT >Hi, >I'm looking for someone who can compile a program for me under NextStep >3.1. I recently upgraded to 3.2 and had a crash which took out one >particular utility that I really liked. (It was in /bin instead of >/usr/local/bin, so it didn't get backed up...) This utility won't >compile under 3.2, but runs like a charm. >If you have such a system and can compile something for me, please let me >know. >Thanks, >David. Hi, I'm currently running NeXT_STEP 3.1 on a HP Vectra 66 XM. And yes I was plug and play. If possible I'll be glad to help you. Peter Peter Depuydt Reetsesteenweg 184 2630 Aartselaar Belgium / Europe pdepuydt@uia.ac.be
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax/Modem software help Date: 14 Oct 1994 15:41:23 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37m8r3$efu@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> geekie@eehpx42.cen.uiuc.edu (geekie james francis) writes: > Does anyone know where I can get fax software for my NeXT? What kind of modem is necessary? Black & White Software's NXFax is always the answer. You can reach them at nxfax@bandw.com or 802-496-8500. They sell modems, too. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN 303.861.4411
From: cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 14 Oct 1994 15:03:54 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science Message-ID: <CAP.94Oct14110354@NOVA.cmu.edu> References: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> <2997@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> In-reply-to: t19@nikhef.nl's message of 14 Oct 94 09:48:53 GMT In article <2997@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > Wrong. The discussion was not about whether or not to have bitmaps > for specific resolutions (this is just an implementation detail), but > whether you use one, linearly scaled font for all sizes (postscript), > or change significant aspects of your design as you scale up or down > (TeX/Metafont). In a postscript, a 5pt Times-Roman scaled up a factor > of two is identical to a 10pt Times-Roman, but in TeX these are > completely different. I thought Adobe Type-1 fonts supported "hints," which allowed the font designer to change the shape of a character depending on the size at which it's rendered. I also recall that this parameterization is rather limited when compared with the total flexibility of Metafont (in Metafont, it's up to the font designer to define what the parameters are, and in fact there could be totally different programs for a given character at each size). Also, I don't know that real PostScript fonts actually use the hinting potentials of the PostScript font format. But my point is that if Times-Roman-5 is a scaling of Times-Roman-10 shapes, it's not entirely because of PostScript limitations, but more likely because of history (the font was encoded before hinting was allowed), and the attitude of Adobe's font foundry (aw, nobody appreciates these subtlties anyway, so let's save a buck). > This means that if you use postscript cmr fonts (and I am tempted to) > you get a new font for each design size of the font: cmr5, cmr6, cmr7, > cmr8, cmr9, cmr10, cmr11, cmr12, cmr17, ... which quickly gets boring > in the fontpanel. You can get around the font panel congestion, as I'll explain. I've had the Computer Modern PostScript fonts installed on my system for a year or so. As I got them, they were pfb fonts, which is the first problem to correct (many solutions on the net). I think you have to generate afm files for these too, which can be done with the net-available getafm program. The next problem was the definitions in each file that are of this form: /FullName(cmr10) def /FamilyName(cmr10) def Problem one is that the NeXT font machinery didn't seem to accept having a number as part of the font name. I changed cmr10 to cmr-ten, and made similar changes to all the other files. Now the fonts work, but they dominate the font panel, as many people have complained here. I got around that by making the definitions read like this: /FullName(cmr-ten) def /FamilyName(Computer Modern) def Now there's just one top-level name, "Computer Modern," in the font panel for all the new fonts. Within that, you have the individual fonts, where you normally have the different styles, like bold, italic, etc. So there's not really any clutter, at least between cm and non-cm fonts. There are a couple more problems with using these fonts in the NeXT environment. First is that the TeX encoding is not the standard Adobe encoding. For example, the ASCII space character in the TeX encoding is a slanted dash, so if you try to use these fonts in a regular NeXTSTEP program, you get dashes for all your spaces, and many other problems (less-than and greater-than are Spanish punctuation, etc.). I imagine you could make derivitave fonts by rearranging characters. I tried this manually, and it didn't work, but maybe I made an error somewhere. My intended use of these CM PostScript fonts was to satisfy my habit of writing documents in LaTeX and creating diagrams in Diagram. I wanted the fonts to match between the document and the diagram. This works okay (font encoding problems aside), except that the fonts that Diagram printed (from CM PostScript fonts) came out bigger than the fonts TeX printed (from TeX pk files). The difference was more than the difference between TeX's true printers' points and PostScript's big points (1/72.27 vs. 1/72), which shouldn't be noticeable at 12pt, because the difference would be less than one pixel at 400dpi. I suppose one could estimate the right scaling factor to make things match, but I didn't get around to it. Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <1994Oct14.150011.16288@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Plaster Cramp Press References: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:00:11 GMT In article <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Oct-94 Re: Preview.app >inferior to.. by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un >> Postscript has just one outline description for each font. For different >> font sizes it just scales them up or down. TeX on the other hand is more >> sophisticated: A small font's outline is significant different than a >> large one's: If you would scale up the small one to the same size, it >> would be much wider, for example. >I'm sorry, but PostScript also allows one to create rasterized bitmaps >for specific pixel sizes. You're misreading Mr. Hoffleit. He said "a small font's *OUTLINE* is... different" (emphasis mine). A 10 point Computer Modern "A" and a 17 point Computer Modern "A", independent of device resolution, are geometrically dissimilar. This is true prior to and independently of rasterization. -- == Seth Tisue (s-tisue@anl.gov)
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase net access Date: 14 Oct 1994 08:24 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <14OCT199408244872@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I have a cube with the freebie limited user version of Sybase. I have no problem using it on the cube. However, now I've purchased a NS/I system and have used NetInfo and ethernet to link the two machines. But I get "connection denied" messages when I try to run isql on the Intel box to the server on the cube. I've checked the two interfaces files, they look ok. What do I need to change. I know remote access to the server can be done (I've seen it done); so what am I missing here? Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: Bernard <jslee@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 14 Oct 1994 15:34:54 GMT Organization: UT Austin Distribution: world Message-ID: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will enable you to work in these languages?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: 3.0 to 3.2: worth it? Message-ID: <Cxo90z.Hyo@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <37jl3n$3kf@wizard.uark.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:41:21 GMT In article <37jl3n$3kf@wizard.uark.edu> me@julio.uafhp.uark.edu (My Account) writes: > Greetings... > > I just sent this message to the other nextstep news group, so I'm sorry if > you're seeing it twice. (Is there a way to cross-post using NewsGrazer?) Yeah... don't do it. -- personal opinions
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:25:50 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37mife$g15@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In article <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Bernard <jslee@mail.utexas.edu> writes: > Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or > Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will > enable you to work in these languages? There is an application called CHINAware that provides Chinese language support for NEXTSTEP in a variety of dialects. I'm not sure who the developer is, but I believe it is available from Alembic Systems International. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview as default opener for .tif files? (and more!) Date: 14 Oct 1994 17:46:56 GMT Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <37mg6g$8ok@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> References: <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> <37jqbj$shl@agate.berkeley.edu> Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote: >In article <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes: >>Preview is the default opener for .ps and .tiff files. Is it possible >>to make it the default opener for .tif tiles too? (I'm creating the >>files under msdos and would like to keep the same names.) >Edit __header section of __ICON Mach-O segment in executable >/NextApps/Preview.app/Preview. >Extract __header using segedit, edit it to add a line for "tif" >and put it back using segedit again. >See "man segedit" or just type the command without args. >It should be obvious what to do from the following. >% segedit Preview -extract __ICON __header ~/header >% cat ~/header >F Preview.app Preview app >F Preview Preview app >S ps Preview ps >S tiff Preview >S eps Preview >@ I just found out that the above also is an easy way to transmogrify Preview.app into a .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.whatnot viewer, as long as you have OmniImageFilter services installed. Just add the corresponding extensions to the header as descibed above, and voila - no more ImageViewer (which doesn't cooperate correctly with other filter), no more OmniImage (no scrollbars), only one Preview.app with nice scrollbars. You lose saving to other formats, though. Anyway, isn't NEXTSTEP cool ? :) Holger -- Holger Hoffstätte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:02:03 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <37mh2r$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CAP.94Oct14110354@NOVA.cmu.edu> <Nice solution to font-naming as one family> It would also be nice if some of you experts were to put together an installer bundle that allowed font novices (like me) to use PS version of CMR transparently. (I.e., something that handles all the strange afm and other files, perhaps moves the old bitmap fonts somewhere, set up the various TeX setup files, etc.) The nice solution to font-naming as family would also help. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:05:41 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <37mh9l$gtp@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <941014114447.271AACUg.malc@jeeves> > Best thing to do is get hold of Equation Builder, ..which is never resellable, although the academic price is a reasonable $140. This is why I have not bought it. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: Setting up a SUPRA FAX 14.4 for Dial in use. Message-ID: <CxoBKr.9Kq@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 17:36:27 GMT I have been using a MultiTech II modem on my /dev/ttydfa port for a long time without any problems. I recently upgraded the modem to a Supra 14.4, and now I can dial up and connect, but the system never sends out the login prompt. I have tried updating the /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab file, but to no avail. Can anyone lend me a hand and help me out here? Thanks! -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Information Technology * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 14 Oct 1994 17:51:40 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <37mgfc$61o@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: > > >In article <37hlii$rj7@newstand.syr.edu> mcnichol@khan.syr.edu (Brendan T. > >McNichols) writes: > >> I need to find a Common Lisp interpreter which will run under NeXTstep > >> 3.2. > > >There are several. The free ones are gcl and clisp. > >gcl is available from ftp.cli.com (for more info, download the file > >"gcl.README" from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu). > >Clisp is a free lisp available via anonymous ftp from > >ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2], directory > >/pub/lisp/clisp/. For the NeXT, get the precompiled form in the clisp > >directory binaries/next. > > Great news! > > Would anyone like to comment on the strengths and weaknesses? Which > do you like best? > > Also, is kcl available for NEXTSTEP? gcl is the new form of kcl/akcl -- I have it running on the original hardware and Intel platforms. The main weakness of clisp is that it is very slow -- around 10 times slower than gcl. Also, gcl's foreign function interface is (or was last time I looked) more powerful. gcl's main weakness is its programming environment -- I find its debugging functions (like backtrace) a real pain to use. I actually use Franz's ACL 3.1.20 on the original NeXT, and then port to the others once everything is working.
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Common lisp interpreter? Date: 14 Oct 1994 11:44:27 -0700 Message-ID: <37mjib$1b6@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> References: <37kcj4$53e@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <37mgfc$61o@nntp.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: >The main weakness of clisp is >that it is very slow -- around 10 times slower than gcl. Byte compiled (CLISP) vs. compile-to-C (GCL). You pay for compilation time with GCL. For straight iteration CLISP will be at least 10 times slower than GCL. But for most code it isn't nearly that bad. CLISP has native CLOS and CLCS which are quick and small compared with PCL. Might take a look at ECL, it has a native CLOS, and a nicer interactive environment than GCL. Might need a little twitching to get running on NEXTSTEP, though. CLISP is probably the closest to CLt2 and dpANS of the three. However, modernizing to dpANS was said to be a (current) priority for GCL.
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pine 3.91 and Intel NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:53:06 -0500 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.941014135029.2836F-100000@pear> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Pine Info List <pine-info@cac.washington.edu> Hi, everyone, I'm getting linking errors (ld) when I try to do a simple: build nxt on my Pentium running NEXTSTEP. Any clues? I'm including the awfully long output ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu avocado:/usr/local/src/pine3.91 root# build nxt make args are "CC=cc" c-client/c-client: File exists imapd/imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=nxt echo nxt > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make nxt make mtest OS=nxt EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g -O -pipe " ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo nxt > OSTYPE echo -g -O -pipe > CFLAGS echo > LDFLAGS ln -s os_nxt.h osdep.h cc -g -O -pipe -c mail.c cc -g -O -pipe -c bezerk.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mtx.c cc -g -O -pipe -c tenex2.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mbox.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mh.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mmdf.c cc -g -O -pipe -c imap2.c cc -g -O -pipe -c pop3.c cc -g -O -pipe -c news.c cc -g -O -pipe -c nntpcunx.c cc -g -O -pipe -c phile.c cc -g -O -pipe -c dummy.c cc -g -O -pipe -c smtp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c nntp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c rfc822.c cc -g -O -pipe -c misc.c cc -g -O -pipe -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_nxt.c mv os_nxt.o osdep.o cc -g -O -pipe -c sm_unix.c cc -g -O -pipe -c newsrc.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o ranlib c-client.a cc -g -O -pipe -c mtest.c cc -g -O -pipe -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a cd ANSI/ms;make If CCMD library is not available, ms will not be made. This is alright since ms is only a demonstration program. ../../../ccmd directory not found, so make.ms is ignored cd ANSI/ipopd;make cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop2d.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop2d ipop2d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop3d.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop3d ipop3d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` cd ANSI/imapd;make cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c imapd.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Making Pico rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g attach.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g ansi.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g basic.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g bind.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g browse.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g buffer.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g composer.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g display.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g file.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g fileio.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g line.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g osdep.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g pico.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g random.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g region.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g search.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g spell.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g tcap.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g window.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ar: creating libpico.a ranlib libpico.a cc -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -o pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-nxt.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c addrbook.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c adrbklib.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c args.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c context.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c filter.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c folder.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c helptext.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c imap.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c init.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailcap.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailcmd.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailindx.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailpart.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailview.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c newmail.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c other.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c pine.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c print.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c reply.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c screen.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c send.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c signals.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c status.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c strings.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c ttyin.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c ttyout.c cd osdep; make includer os-nxt.c; cd .. cc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-nxt.ic > os-nxt.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-nxt.c os.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c os.c echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c cc -c -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -o date.o date.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib ld: warning ../c-client/c-client.a archive's cputype (6, architecture m68k) does not match cputype (7 architecture i386) of objects files previously loaded (can't load from it) ld: Undefined symbols: _fs_get _fs_give _cpystr _rfc822_write_address _mail_free_address _rfc822_parse_adrlist _mail_newaddr _mail_fetchstructure _fs_resize _mail_find _mail_find_bboards _mail_find_all _mail_find_all_bboard _mail_open _mail_create _mail_rename _mail_delete _mail_append _mail_append_full _mail_copy _mail_subscribe _mail_unsubscribe _mail_subscribe_bboard _mail_close _mail_unsubscribe_bboard _mail_valid _mail_valid_net _rfc822_date _mail_valid_net_parse _mail_parameters _lcase _mail_fetchflags _mail_elt _mail_expunge _mail_check _mail_setflag _mail_clearflag _mail_fetchheader _mail_fetchtext _mail_string _mail_date _mail_search _mail_fetchfrom _mail_fetchsubject _body_encodings _mail_fetchbody _mail_ping _imapdriver _mail_link _nntpdriver _pop3driver _mhdriver _mtxdriver _tenexdriver _mmdfdriver _bezerkdriver _newsdriver _philedriver _dummydriver _default_proto _mail_newenvelope _mail_newbody _mail_newbody_part _mail_free_envelope _rfc822_cpy_adr _mail_newbody_parameter _smtp_open _tcp_host _smtp_close _smtp_send _rfc822_address _smtp_rcpt _smtp_fake _smtp_soutr _rfc822_header_line _rfc822_address_line _body_types _rfc822_default_subtype _tspecials _rfc822_cat _mail_free_body_parameter _nntp_open _tcp_localhost _tcp_soutr *** Exit 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex size: can't open file: bin/pine (No such file or directory) 172032 8192 0 573440 753664 b8000 bin/mtest 188416 16384 0 589824 794624 c2000 bin/imapd 106496 8192 0 335872 450560 6e000 bin/pico Done
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <1994Oct14.190958.28483@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Plaster Cramp Press References: <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> <2997@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <CAP.94Oct14110354@nova.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:09:58 GMT In article <CAP.94Oct14110354@nova.cmu.edu>, Chris Paris <cap@cmu.edu> wrote: >I thought Adobe Type-1 fonts supported "hints," which allowed the font >designer to change the shape of a character depending on the size at >which it's rendered. [munch] >But my point is that if Times-Roman-5 is a scaling of >Times-Roman-10 shapes, it's not entirely because of PostScript >limitations, but more likely because of history (the font was encoded >before hinting was allowed) No! You're confusing device-independent, resolution-independent font outlines with their bitmapped, rasterized final printed representations. In TeX, *prior* to rasterization, Computer Modern 10pt is *different* from Computer Modern 17pt. But with PostScript, Times Roman 10pt and Times Roman 17pt are rasterized from *exactly* the same outline information. What hinting does is produce better looking bitmaps when type size is small and resolution is low (for example, on your display or on a low resolution printer). It provides "hints" to the rasterizer. But it does not change the shape of the character, only the details of which pixels are chosen to represent that shape. I believe Adobe's Multiple Master font technology may provide this capability, but it is not available with regular Type 1 fonts regardless of whether the font has hints. -- == Seth Tisue (s-tisue@anl.gov)
From: jti@rieska.oulu.fi (Jarkko Isokungas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples Date: 14 Oct 1994 20:31:41 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Message-ID: <37mprd$js5@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples... especially Mandelbrot with sources.. -Jarkko jti@rieska.oulu.fi
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTML-Editor available for HP-PA Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:18:27 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <37msj3$ec1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> HTML-Editor0.5 for Nextstep is now available for all Nextstep platforms from ftp://scholar.lib.vt.edu/pub/next/HTML-Editor0.5.FAT.app.compressed Thanks to Michael at MIT for access to an HP... -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <CAP.94Oct11215403@NOVA.cmu.edu> <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <37hcch$srv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 07:37:30 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct14.073730.11046@proximus.north.de> In article <37hcch$srv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, Gregor Hoffleit <flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: [...] >BTW, in the meantime, there are true PS Type 1 versions of the Computer >Modern font famlily on CTAN (true in the sence that they are converted >from the Metafont source and not from bitmap files). You just need to >place them in NeXT's font library, generate .vf files for TeX (virtual >font descriptions) and tell TeX a little bit about them setting some >environment variables, and TeXview and dvips will use them instead of >their Metafont relatives. [...] What is "CTAN", where can I get the above fonts (ftp) how do I install them? Thanks, Gerhard... PS: _Could_ it be that we onne day see a even bette TeX on NeXT?... -- +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on request >--+ N Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX References: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 07:57:30 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct14.075730.11215@proximus.north.de> In article <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>, <ward@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at> wrote: > [...] enable me to write formulas? [...] FrameMaker.
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: InstantTeX3_0 for Intel Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:56:57 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <37jhrp$j9@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Does anyone know where I might find InstantTeX3_0 compiled for Intel machines? I have found several FTP sites that have it for the Black machines, but none for the Intel machines. Thanks Darryl James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Star Trek NEXTIME QuickTime Movies Message-ID: <1994Oct14.225007.8142@radical2.radical.com> Keywords: NEXTIME QuickTime Movies Star Trek Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 22:50:07 GMT I located some Star Trek movies in QuickTime format that do seem to work with NEXTIME just fine. I think they are samples from the upcoming Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual CD-ROM. Here's where to find them: FTP Site: ftp.netcom.com Directory: /pub/flypba/QuickTime -rw-r--r-- 1 15290 1159045 Oct 4 22:31 STSICKPAN.MOV.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 15290 1208851 Oct 4 22:19 STWALK.MOV.gz NOTE: You will have to rename the file to all lower case for NEXTIME to recognize it. STWALK.MOV is an excellent demo clip!!!!!! Enjoy!!!! -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTIME Where?? Date: 14 Oct 1994 23:57:20 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <37n5t0$btm@news.bu.edu> Stupid question, but.... Where can I purchase NeXTTIME? I am a student.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Word Processor Recommendation Message-ID: <CxosAF.MBC@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 23:40:54 GMT Being a NeXTStep newcomer, Edit looks very good. I'd like to know what I am missing out on if I stayed with Edit for a word processor. Perhaps form text around objects, multiple-edits(windows) on the same file, blending in various graphics, etc? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax/Modem software help Date: 15 Oct 1994 00:54:20 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Distribution: world Message-ID: <37n97s$r38@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> References: <37k1us$2h3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> In article <37k1us$2h3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) writes: In article <37jtfa$m23@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> geekie@eehpx42.cen.uiuc.edu (geekie james francis) writes: > Does anyone know where I can get fax software for my NeXT? What kind I would also say NXFax, as mrozek@eecs.umich.edu has suggested, EXCEPT call Black & White Software Phone: 1-802-496-8500 to find out EXACTLY what kind of modem they do support. For instance, our lab bought an Intel 144 because it was on the list of supported modems for NXFax, but sure enough, it had a ROM/??? upgrade, and couldnt hack it. Note that i am not blaming Black and White for anything; supporting hardware "upgrades" today is just not possible. cheers, !ramanan ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu cheers, !ramanan
From: steve@melmak.engga.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS FIP vs Moto compatibility Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:17:20 GMT Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Distribution: wo Message-ID: <37jq30$hkr@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> I realize that this is the sort of question that has been asked a million times, but could someone please enlighten me... Are there seperate Developers' Releases of NS 3.2 for Intel and Moto, or is there just one which works for both? I have black hardware, and need to be sure that what I buy will work on my machine. Thanks in advance! Steve <steve@melmak.engga.uwo.ca>
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME Where?? Date: 15 Oct 1994 01:17:46 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37nolq$20k@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37n5t0$btm@news.bu.edu> Bryony Bechtold (bbry@bu.edu) wrote: : Stupid question, but.... : Where can I purchase NeXTTIME? I am a student. 1-800-TRY-NEXT It's $99 (I don't believe there are any discounts). Those who attended Expo were able to buy it for $20 or so, and a few people may have extra copies hanging around they'd be willing to sell. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PREVIEW.APP INFERIORÿÿÿÿÿ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 21:40:00 GMT Message-ID: <941014163122739@btf.com> Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766 Distribution: world References: <2997@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu> GO> Wrong. The discussion was not about whether or not to have bitmaps GO> for specific resolutions (this is just an implementation detail), GO> but whether you use one, linearly scaled font for all sizes GO> (postscript), or change significant aspects of your design as you GO> scale up or down (TeX/Metafont). In a postscript, a 5pt Times-Roman GO> scaled up a factor of two is identical to a 10pt Times-Roman, but in GO> TeX these are completely different. Althought that is one of the points of the Multiple Masters thing Adobe is pushing. Is that avalible for Next? Ronald Pottol * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 67 * */ \* <- Tribble Olympics: Fencing.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@netcom.com (Tom Thomas) Subject: MOD player for Intel? Message-ID: <thomasCxp4J8.5JK@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 04:01:55 GMT Is there a mod player for Intel machines available? I have tons of mods from my Amiga days, I'd like to use them with my white machine too. Cheers! Tom Thomas thomas@netcom.com (sometimes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Subject: DOOM II Message-ID: <Cxpq2H.v2@nx1.westminster.ca.us> Sender: root@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Organization: Oscar S. Alonso Software Enginnering. Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:47:04 GMT Does any know when the DOOM II engine is being released for NeXTStep? Oscar S. Alonso
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: matt@strumpet (Matt Ware) Subject: Re: Doom for NeXT Message-ID: <Cxo8xB.LvG@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:39:10 GMT In article <thompsonCxBL0G.M08@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes: > Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote: > > > >OmniGroup is reportedly working on a full NS implementation, with sound > >and Interceptor library calls for the graphics. It should kick! > > > I thought they posted that there wasn't going to be sound because it > sucked up too much CPU. Too bad, because Doom without sound just > isn't Doom. Guess I'll still be rebooting into DOS... > > Eric > thompson@netcom.com I read in Unigram that a version with sound was on it's way Matt
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Chunking files... Date: 15 Oct 1994 12:53:56 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> For the first time I seem to have need of being able to take a large, multi- megabyte file, and split it up into many smaller parts that will fit on a stack of 1.44mb 3.5" floppies. And of course this is thoe exact time that I discover that chunking does not seem to work on white hardware. It gives a message that says "its ok to remove disk, etc" and then no matter what I insert next, it will not continue. I am stuck, does anyone have advice on how I can split up several large files onto floppies for the benefit of a friend who doesn't have access to tape or SyQuest. Is chunk really broken under 3.2, or am I doing something very stupid ? Please help, I'm drowning and its such as nice weekend! ;-)
From: cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 15 Oct 1994 14:04:18 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science Message-ID: <CAP.94Oct15100419@NOVA.cmu.edu> References: <CAP.94Oct14110354@NOVA.cmu.edu> <37mh2r$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> In-reply-to: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu's message of 14 Oct 1994 18:02:03 GMT In article <37mh2r$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > It would also be nice if some of you experts were to put together an > installer bundle that allowed font novices (like me) to use PS version of > CMR transparently. (I.e., something that handles all the strange afm and > other files, perhaps moves the old bitmap fonts somewhere, set up the > various TeX setup files, etc.) The nice solution to font-naming as family > would also help. Perhaps it would be useful for someone to produce an easily installable package containing the CM PS fonts, but I think that configuring TeX to use them by default is the wrong thing for most people. One of the advantages of both TeX and PostScript is portability, but you lose that if you produce .ps files that use fonts that nobody else has. And if a particular document is just for yourself, then what's wrong with the TeX bitmap fonts? The main win of having CM in PostScript, from my point of view, is the possibility of using them in regular NeXTSTEP applications that know only about PostScript fonts (as in my example of using Diagram! to make figures for TeX documents). But until someone makes a solution to the encoding problem, this is very tedious (i.e., putting all your space characters in a different font). The result is that I haven't really used the CM PS fonts once I had them installed. Chris
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunking files... Date: 15 Oct 1994 17:09:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <37p2be$s34@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> In article <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > I am stuck, does anyone have advice on how I can split up several large files > onto floppies for the benefit of a friend who doesn't have access to tape or > SyQuest. > I've linked /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk to /usr/local/bin because I find it so convenient for splitting any file, even binaries, into equal-size chunks. I don't see any reason why you couldn't use "chunk" to create your 1.44 MB chunks and then copy them manually onto a series of floppies. After copying the chunks off the floppy, merely concatenating them will recreate the original file. Look inside the Installer.app app wrapper. It contains several useful command-line utilities. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 15:30:29 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Iic2rJG00iV702OOx8@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <37mprd$js5@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Oct-94 [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos.. by Jarkko Isokungas@rieska. > I need NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples... especially Mandelbrot with sources.. Speaking of which: does anyone have the movies to Scene from NEXTSTEP 2.x? Mine got nuked at some point upgrading/merging systems around. Please email me if you have 'em & are willing to NEXTmail 'em to me. Thanks, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker 2.0 black: want to learn, but no manuals Date: 15 Oct 1994 20:09:57 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <37pcul$gq6@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, I have a copy of FrameMaker for black, but I am not having much luck using it as I don't have any manuals or guided tour. I am a student so don't really have time to just play with it. I've never used this app on any platform or talked with anyone familiar with it. If I bought a FrameMaker book for another platform, would I find it useful? If there are ones out there worth my while, what are they? Please mail the address below with advice. Thanks in advance. -- ******************************************************* Jessica L. Mosher email: cooncat@ella.mills.edu NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu "Life is what happens when you're making other plans." --John Lennon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: willisma@tch31.cs.jmu.edu (matt a willis ) Subject: NS 3.2 install - HELP! Message-ID: <CxqC6t.Jqq@hub.cs.jmu.edu> Sender: newsusr@hub.cs.jmu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: James Madison University Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 19:44:52 GMT [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.bugs ] [ Author was matt a willis ] [ Posted on Sat, 15 Oct 1994 19:40:54 GMT ] I'm having trouble installing NeXTstep 3.2 on a machine with the following configuration: Zeos 486 w/ 32Mb IDE hard drive Adaptec 6360 SCSI adapter NEC 2x CD ROM I have obtained the device driver for the SCSI adapter from NeXT. The problem I'm having is that during installation, my keyboard locks up. It willeither lock up or I get the repeating message: PS/2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from Keyboard I've tried the fix suggested in NeXT help file #1480 to type the following command at the boot: prompt: "Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy"
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS FIP vs Moto compatibility Date: 14 Oct 1994 20:45:25 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: wo Message-ID: <37mql5$pm7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <37jq30$hkr@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> In article <37jq30$hkr@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> steve@melmak.engga.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) writes: &I realize that this is the sort of question that has been asked &a million times, but could someone please enlighten me... &Are there seperate Developers' Releases of NS 3.2 for Intel and Moto, &or is there just one which works for both? I have black hardware, &and need to be sure that what I buy will work on my machine. NO. The DEV CD is FAT. The USER CD is NOT. Which means you MUST purchase either MOTO USER CD for MOTO hardware Likewise INTEL USER CD for INTEL hardware. The DEV CD works on both architectures. Randy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Background Menus Possible? Message-ID: <CxqGoI.59t@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 21:25:35 GMT When I want the extra desktop, it's nice to be able to park the icon dock in the background with an Alt-Click. Can the same thing be done to menus. This can be a desireable feature when the mouse menu button is enabled. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunking files... Message-ID: <1994Oct15.144506.30031@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel) Date: 15 Oct 94 14:45:06 MDT References: <37p2be$s34@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Distribution: world In article <37p2be$s34@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> writes: > In article <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > I am stuck, does anyone have advice on how I can split up several large > files > > onto floppies for the benefit of a friend who doesn't have access to > tape or > > SyQuest. > > > I've linked /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk to /usr/local/bin because I > find it so convenient for splitting any file, even binaries, into > equal-size chunks. I don't see any reason why you couldn't use "chunk" to > create your 1.44 MB chunks and then copy them manually onto a series of > floppies. After copying the chunks off the floppy, merely concatenating > them will recreate the original file. > Look inside the Installer.app app wrapper. It contains several useful gnuzip also has a set of utities for breaking up zip files for disketts. There readily available lokk on oak.oaklnd.edu or other large ftp site. Most of the compression schemes have utilites to break of stuff to put it on disks.
From: mike@linnea-grind.stacken.kth.se (Mike Henry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Chunking files... Date: 15 Oct 1994 22:25:41 GMT Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Message-ID: <37pkt5$o5d@news.kth.se> References: <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: >For the first time I seem to have need of being able to take a large, multi- >megabyte file, and split it up into many smaller parts that will fit on a >stack of 1.44mb 3.5" floppies. And of course this is thoe exact time that I >discover that chunking does not seem to work on white hardware. It gives a >message that says "its ok to remove disk, etc" and then no matter what I >insert next, it will not continue. > >I am stuck, does anyone have advice on how I can split up several large files >onto floppies for the benefit of a friend who doesn't have access to tape or >SyQuest. > >Is chunk really broken under 3.2, or am I doing something very stupid ? Nope and Nope. What you're not doing is very stupid. B^) Did you do select "Disk->Check for new disks" or whatever it is called from the workspace menu? You need to do that first before you click the "Continue" button. On all currently supported hardware (except m68k) you need to tell the system that you have entered a new disk *yourself* before letting the system write the chunk to your (new) disk. You think they could have done that part for you... I use floppies all the time this way for transferring data. Works great! -Mike -- Mike Henry INET : mike@stacken.kth.se /// Tomtebog. 30 /// S-113 38 Stockholm \\\/// SWEDEN TEL : +46 8 34 84 49 \XX/
From: jmccaski@CS.Trinity.Edu (Scott McCaskill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Terminal app: help! Date: 15 Oct 1994 23:41:12 GMT Organization: Trinity University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> In the terminal app included with NeXTStep, is there *any* way to remap backspace to delete (or vice versa--I can't remember which is necessary)? As I'm sure you can understand, not having a working backspace key (with certain unix programs, like ytalk for example) is exceedingly annoying. I have looked through all the settings I could find for Terminal, but haven't found any way to change that setting. Does anyone know how to fix this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Scott -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scott McCaskill Any sufficiently advanced technology is (jmccaski@cs.trinity.edu) indistinguishable from a rigged demo.
From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 18:00 GMT+0300 Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <1994Oct14.150011.16288@midway.uc> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelbe> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript In article <0ibTIWS00iUxQApaNH@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Oct-94 Re: Preview.app >inferior to.. by Gregor Hoffleit@mathi.un >> Postscript has just one outline description for each font. For different >> font sizes it just scales them up or down. TeX on the other hand is more >> sophisticated: A small font's outline is significant different than a >> large one's: If you would scale up the small one to the same size, it >> would be much wider, for example. >I'm sorry, but PostScript also allows one to create rasterized bitmaps >for specific pixel sizes. You're misreading Mr. Hoffleit. He said "a small font's *OUTLINE* is... different" (emphasis mine). A 10 point Computer Modern "A" and a 17 point Computer Modern "A", independent of device resolution, are geometrically dissimilar. This is true prior to and independently of rasterization. -- == Seth Tisue (s-tisue@anl.gov)
From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 22:09 GMT+0300 Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <1994Oct14.190958.28483@midway.uc> References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelbe> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript In article <CAP.94Oct14110354@nova.cmu.edu>, Chris Paris <cap@cmu.edu> wrote: >I thought Adobe Type-1 fonts supported "hints," which allowed the font >designer to change the shape of a character depending on the size at >which it's rendered. [munch] >But my point is that if Times-Roman-5 is a scaling of >Times-Roman-10 shapes, it's not entirely because of PostScript >limitations, but more likely because of history (the font was encoded >before hinting was allowed) No! You're confusing device-independent, resolution-independent font outlines with their bitmapped, rasterized final printed representations. In TeX, *prior* to rasterization, Computer Modern 10pt is *different* from Computer Modern 17pt. But with PostScript, Times Roman 10pt and Times Roman 17pt are rasterized from *exactly* the same outline information. What hinting does is produce better looking bitmaps when type size is small and resolution is low (for example, on your display or on a low resolution printer). It provides "hints" to the rasterizer. But it does not change the shape of the character, only the details of which pixels are chosen to represent that shape. I believe Adobe's Multiple Master font technology may provide this capability, but it is not available with regular Type 1 fonts regardless of whether the font has hints. -- == Seth Tisue (s-tisue@anl.gov)
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 20:46 GMT+0300 Subject: Re: Preview as default opener for .tif Message-ID: <37mg6g$8ok@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.d> References: <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> Subject: Re: Preview as default opener for .tif files? (and more!) Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote: >In article <1994Oct12.230604.1945@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes: >>Preview is the default opener for .ps and .tiff files. Is it possible >>to make it the default opener for .tif tiles too? (I'm creating the >>files under msdos and would like to keep the same names.) >Edit __header section of __ICON Mach-O segment in executable >/NextApps/Preview.app/Preview. >Extract __header using segedit, edit it to add a line for "tif" >and put it back using segedit again. >See "man segedit" or just type the command without args. >It should be obvious what to do from the following. >% segedit Preview -extract __ICON __header ~/header >% cat ~/header >F Preview.app Preview app >F Preview Preview app >S ps Preview ps >S tiff Preview >S eps Preview >@ I just found out that the above also is an easy way to transmogrify Preview.app into a .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.whatnot viewer, as long as you have OmniImageFilter services installed. Just add the corresponding extensions to the header as descibed above, and voila - no more ImageViewer (which doesn't cooperate correctly with other filter), no more OmniImage (no scrollbars), only one Preview.app with nice scrollbars. You lose saving to other formats, though. Anyway, isn't NEXTSTEP cool ? :) Holger -- Holger Hoffstätte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
From: s0uasa@fnma.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 15:50 GMT+0300 Subject: Tel# for MicroMaps/MapArt Message-ID: <1994Oct14.125042.1370@almserv.uu> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> MicroMaps/MapArt used to have EPS Maps for the NeXT. Does anyone know how to get in touch with them? Thanks. Asha.
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 18:24 GMT+0300 Subject: Sybase net access Message-ID: <14OCT199408244872@violet.ccit.ar> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> Hi. I have a cube with the freebie limited user version of Sybase. I have no problem using it on the cube. However, now I've purchased a NS/I system and have used NetInfo and ethernet to link the two machines. But I get "connection denied" messages when I try to run isql on the Intel box to the server on the cube. I've checked the two interfaces files, they look ok. What do I need to change. I know remote access to the server can be done (I've seen it done); so what am I missing here? Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 94 11:53 GMT+0300 Subject: Pine 3.91 and Intel NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <-1584829738@Pine.NXT.3.91.941014135029.2836F> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> Hi, everyone, I'm getting linking errors (ld) when I try to do a simple: build nxt on my Pentium running NEXTSTEP. Any clues? I'm including the awfully long output ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu avocado:/usr/local/src/pine3.91 root# build nxt make args are "CC=cc" c-client/c-client: File exists imapd/imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=nxt echo nxt > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make nxt make mtest OS=nxt EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g -O -pipe " ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo nxt > OSTYPE echo -g -O -pipe > CFLAGS echo > LDFLAGS ln -s os_nxt.h osdep.h cc -g -O -pipe -c mail.c cc -g -O -pipe -c bezerk.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mtx.c cc -g -O -pipe -c tenex2.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mbox.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mh.c cc -g -O -pipe -c mmdf.c cc -g -O -pipe -c imap2.c cc -g -O -pipe -c pop3.c cc -g -O -pipe -c news.c cc -g -O -pipe -c nntpcunx.c cc -g -O -pipe -c phile.c cc -g -O -pipe -c dummy.c cc -g -O -pipe -c smtp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c nntp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c rfc822.c cc -g -O -pipe -c misc.c cc -g -O -pipe -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_nxt.c mv os_nxt.o osdep.o cc -g -O -pipe -c sm_unix.c cc -g -O -pipe -c newsrc.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o ranlib c-client.a cc -g -O -pipe -c mtest.c cc -g -O -pipe -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a cd ANSI/ms;make If CCMD library is not available, ms will not be made. This is alright since ms is only a demonstration program. ../../../ccmd directory not found, so make.ms is ignored cd ANSI/ipopd;make cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop2d.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop2d ipop2d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop3d.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop3d ipop3d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` cd ANSI/imapd;make cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c imapd.c cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Making Pico rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g attach.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g ansi.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g basic.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g bind.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g browse.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g buffer.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g composer.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g display.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g file.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g fileio.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g line.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g osdep.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g pico.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g random.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g region.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g search.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g spell.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g tcap.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g window.c cc -c -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ar: creating libpico.a ranlib libpico.a cc -Dnxt -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -o pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-nxt.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c addrbook.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c adrbklib.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c args.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c context.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c filter.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c folder.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c helptext.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c imap.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c init.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailcap.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailcmd.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailindx.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailpart.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c mailview.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c newmail.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c other.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c pine.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c print.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c reply.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c screen.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c send.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c signals.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c status.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c strings.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c ttyin.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c ttyout.c cd osdep; make includer os-nxt.c; cd .. cc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-nxt.ic > os-nxt.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-nxt.c os.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -c os.c echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c cc -c -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -o date.o date.c cc -DNXT -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"NXT\" -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib ld: warning ../c-client/c-client.a archive's cputype (6, architecture m68k) does not match cputype (7 architecture i386) of objects files previously loaded (can't load from it) ld: Undefined symbols: _fs_get _fs_give _cpystr _rfc822_write_address _mail_free_address _rfc822_parse_adrlist _mail_newaddr _mail_fetchstructure _fs_resize _mail_find _mail_find_bboards _mail_find_all _mail_find_all_bboard _mail_open _mail_create _mail_rename _mail_delete _mail_append _mail_append_full _mail_copy _mail_subscribe _mail_unsubscribe _mail_subscribe_bboard _mail_close _mail_unsubscribe_bboard _mail_valid _mail_valid_net _rfc822_date _mail_valid_net_parse _mail_parameters _lcase _mail_fetchflags _mail_elt _mail_expunge _mail_check _mail_setflag _mail_clearflag _mail_fetchheader _mail_fetchtext _mail_string _mail_date _mail_search _mail_fetchfrom _mail_fetchsubject _body_encodings _mail_fetchbody _mail_ping _imapdriver _mail_link _nntpdriver _pop3driver _mhdriver _mtxdriver _tenexdriver _mmdfdriver _bezerkdriver _newsdriver _philedriver _dummydriver _default_proto _mail_newenvelope _mail_newbody _mail_newbody_part _mail_free_envelope _rfc822_cpy_adr _mail_newbody_parameter _smtp_open _tcp_host _smtp_close _smtp_send _rfc822_address _smtp_rcpt _smtp_fake _smtp_soutr _rfc822_header_line _rfc822_address_line _body_types _rfc822_default_subtype _tspecials _rfc822_cat _mail_free_body_parameter _nntp_open _tcp_localhost _tcp_soutr *** Exit 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex size: can't open file: bin/pine (No such file or directory) 172032 8192 0 573440 753664 b8000 bin/mtest 188416 16384 0 589824 794624 c2000 bin/imapd 106496 8192 0 335872 450560 6e000 bin/pico Done
From: black.knight@btf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 15 Oct 94 00:40 GMT+0300 Subject: PREVIEW.APP INFERIORÿÿÿÿÿ Message-ID: <-286528973@btf.com> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org> GO> Wrong. The discussion was not about whether or not to have bitmaps GO> for specific resolutions (this is just an implementation detail), GO> but whether you use one, linearly scaled font for all sizes GO> (postscript), or change significant aspects of your design as you GO> scale up or down (TeX/Metafont). In a postscript, a 5pt Times-Roman GO> scaled up a factor of two is identical to a 10pt Times-Roman, but in GO> TeX these are completely different. Althought that is one of the points of the Multiple Masters thing Adobe is pushing. Is that avalible for Next? Ronald Pottol * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 67 * */ \* <- Tribble Olympics: Fencing.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 16 Oct 1994 07:58:49 GMT Organization: Department of Physics, University of Alberta Message-ID: <37qmfp$vuk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2994@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> <37hgf7$8tc@network.ucsd.edu> Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: : I think the solution is obvious, make Postscript versions : of Computer Modern fonts --- *INCLUDING* THE MATH ONES. : Why hasn't this happened in the what, NINE YEARS, since the laserwriter : and TeX? Making math fonts is very hard. For quite a while there exist **commercial** Postsctipt math fonts, but you have to buy them. On ftp.shsu.edu there is also freely available Postscript version of CM fonts. They have their advantages and disadvantages as well. Michal
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac Emulation..Help!!! Date: 16 Oct 1994 08:51:02 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <37r7jm$dp8@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Can anyone out there tell me if and how I can run Mac programs (really only a few apps and a killer pinball game,,Crystal Caliburn) on NS FIP? My configuration will be an objectstation with 32 mb ram. What utility do I need to run some cooler Mac stuff on NeXT? Thanks in advance for the help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@toppoint.de (Manfred R hr) Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <Cxro37.Dy@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Rphr) References: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:59:31 GMT In article <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) writes: > Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: > > : >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? > > : All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. > > Heard it should be available by the end of November. > : > : -- > : // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // > : // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // > : // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de // Wann kommt eigentlich 3.5? Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Background Menus Possible? Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 15:40:54 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> References: <CxqGoI.59t@eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > When I want the extra desktop, it's nice to be able to park the icon > dock in the background with an Alt-Click. Can the same thing be done > to menus. This can be a desireable feature when the mouse menu button > is enabled. > Not quite -- the easiest thing is probably simply to move the menus pretty- much off-screen, just leave the title bar showing. This is a useful trick when using laptops (so I'm told... if somebody wants to give me one so that I can do more thorough research into the subject, feel free to do so! ;-) Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 17:31:41 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Distribution: world Message-ID: <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> References: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or > Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will > enable you to work in these languages? > There is a full Japanese version of NEXTSTEP, 3.2J, available from Canon Japan and various others. It's expensive, though, and I'm not sure how you order it from the US. Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Subject: Re: Terminal app: help! Message-ID: <CxrqFq.Fp@nx1.westminster.ca.us> Sender: root@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Organization: Oscar S. Alonso Software Enginnering. References: <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 13:50:13 GMT In article <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> jmccaski@CS.Trinity.Edu (Scott McCaskill) writes: > In the terminal app included with NeXTStep, is there *any* way to remap > backspace to delete (or vice versa--I can't remember which is > necessary)? As I'm sure you can understand, not having a working > backspace key (with certain unix programs, like ytalk for example) is > exceedingly annoying. I have looked through all the settings I could > find for Terminal, but haven't found any way to change that setting. > > Does anyone know how to fix this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. > How about typing "stty erase " and press the "Delete" key at the shell prompt.
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:20:58 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Message-ID: <37rueq$bdv@nunki.usc.edu> References: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Bernard <jslee@mail.utexas.edu> writes: >Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or >Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will >enable you to work in these languages? > The Taiwan NeXT User Group has released a Chinese PostScript font and a Chinese Editor under the GNU Public License. The font is in traditional typeface and encoded using Big-5. You can ftp it the from the following site. ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/chinese --- README_FIRST file of the KaiSu.pkg --- KaiSu.pkg.tar is a Chinese PostScript font package. It's the courtesy of Jackson Technology, Ltd., Taiwan to release this font under the terms of the General Public License of the Free Software Fundation. Taiwan NeXT User Group has taken over the distribution since the sales manager Tsui of Jackson announced this news in the user meeting of TwNUG in December 29, 1993. For the past two weeks, we have been modifing and packaging the font. However, due to the lack of time, we have not been able to fully test either the PS font or the install script. If you have any problem installing the package, please send e-mail to the following address: KaiSu@twnug.info.com The KaiSu package contains only a typeface of Big-5 encode Chinese PostScript font. At this moment, we are not able to put any Chinese related utilities into this package. In the future, we will put in a Chinese input program called CInput with the package and other related utilities. For those who are interested in seeing Chinese NeXTSTEP, there is a sample file in the same directory you download the font called Chinese_sample.rtf. ### Known Bugs in KaiSu Chinese PostScript Font ### January 9, edited by David Li (david@twnug.info.com) Since this Chinese font was and still is being developed without the assistence from either Adobe or NeXT, bugs are inevitable. The following is a list of known bugs. (1) When Chinese and English characters are appeared on the same lines, the cursor of Text object can't move correctly to right position. This bugs was due to the lack of coupled English Fonts in this Chinese font set. Jackson is creating the English font and should be ready soon. (2) The post_install script in the package has never been tested extensively. It was writted by me in a hour in order to delivery this package to ftp site. Please send new bugs and suggestion to KaiSu@twnug.info.com -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <37rueq$bdv@nunki.usc.edu> Control: cancel <37rueq$bdv@nunki.usc.edu> Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:36:45 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Message-ID: <37rvcd$bqq@nunki.usc.edu> cancel <37rueq$bdv@nunki.usc.edu> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: taweil@phakt.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:04:17 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@phakt.usc.edu Message-ID: <37s101$qsc@phakt.usc.edu> References: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Bernard <jslee@mail.utexas.edu> writes: >Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or >Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will >enable you to work in these languages? > Taiwan NeXT User Group has released a set of free Chinese utilities which can be installed on NeXTSTEP system to utilitize Chinese. The following is the README file from the package. # # $Id: README_FIRST,v 1.3 1994/10/16 21:01:03 david Exp david $ # KaiSu.pkg contains KaiSu-Regular.font, a typeface of traditional Chinese PS font and PinYinEdit, a Chinese editor with PinYin input. KaiSu-Regular.font can be installed in the basic NeXTSTEP environment to provide the ability of displaying Chinese documents which use Big-5 encode. KaiSu-Regular.font is compatible with majority of native NeXTSTEP apps. PinYinEdit is a basic Chinese editor based on Text object of the app kit. The package has been uploaded to the following ftp sites: ftp://ftp.nsysu.edu.tw ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu KaiSu-Regular.font is donated by Jackson Technology, Ltd., Taiwan. Jackson is a a perfessional Chinese desktop publishing firm based in Taipei, Taiwan. PinYinEdit is a courtesy from William Wei. Both software are "copyleft," copyrighted using the GNU public license. Taiwan NeXT User Group is in charged of the distribution and maintenance of the KaiSu.pkg. Plases send the questions and suggestion to the following address. KaiSu@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: taweil@phakt.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:09:46 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@phakt.usc.edu Message-ID: <37s1aa$r38@phakt.usc.edu> References: <37m8eu$a3m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <37mife$g15@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: >There is an application called CHINAware that provides Chinese language >support for NEXTSTEP in a variety of dialects. I'm not sure who the >developer is, but I believe it is available from Alembic Systems >International. > CHINAware doesn't support black machines and the manager Kang of ObjectRain, developer of CHINAware said "We will never support black machines because of the small install base [in Taiwan]." Also, CHINAware only supports traditional Chinese characters and Big-5 encode. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Background Menus Possible? Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:52:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <37s3qn$j77@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <CxqGoI.59t@eskimo.com> <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> mmalcolm Crawford (malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: : > [Someone wants to put the menus in the background to save space.] : Not quite -- the easiest thing is probably simply to move the menus pretty- : much off-screen, just leave the title bar showing. : This is a useful trick when using laptops (so I'm told... if somebody wants to : give me one so that I can do more thorough research into the subject, feel : free to do so! ;-) You don't need a laptop to test this. Just set your video driver to SVGA. I like hiding them off of the lower right corner of the screen, just to the left of the dock. Of course, I don't have to anymore, and so I don't. -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Date: 17 Oct 1994 01:35:08 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <37skcc$e8n@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> In article <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: >> > Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or >> > Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will >> > enable you to work in these languages? >> > >> There is a full Japanese version of NEXTSTEP, 3.2J, available from Canon Japan >> and various others. It's expensive, though, and I'm not sure how you order it >> from the US. >> >> Have fun, >> >> mmalcolm. It's not that expensive anymore. Back then with only black hardware, $2500 for NS sounds outrageous. But today w/ NS retail at around $2500 , it's not that much expensive. (But you have to buy from Canon in Japan) Actually, buy the user edition and buy the English developer may be a better deal for edu user. -- _________________________________________________________________________ Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
From: jsum@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Joey Sum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RZ/SZ compile troubles on NeXT v3.x Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:34:42 -0600 Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept. Message-ID: <37sut2$m7a@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Hi, I'm not very UNIX literate, about all I can do with a makefile is use one that has NeXTstep 3.x defined. Well, RZ/SZ doesn't have it defined, so I'm lost. I think NeXT *nix is BSD v4.x, so I did a make bsd, and it choked on me. Does anyone know how I should edit the makefile to compile the program? If that's not enough info, I can post the terminal error messages. It had something to do with termio.c, if I remember correctly. Thanks, Joey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Q:Cobol for NextStep? Message-ID: <rfenney-171094011550@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: FenTek References: <CxFGuA.2tt@nexus.ping.de> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 08:10:30 GMT In article <CxFGuA.2tt@nexus.ping.de>, jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) wrote: > Hi, > > what Cobol compilers are available for NEXTSTEP? > > -- > > Juergen Moellenhoff > EMail: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (NeXTMail OK) Call me ... but I hope NONE!!!!!! Robert
From: joerg@nextstation.ite.rwth-aachen.de (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wanted: electronic CAD for black HW Date: 17 Oct 1994 09:46:19 GMT Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen Message-ID: <37th5b$jjn@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, is there anybody, who knows something about an _existing_ program for electronic cad (circuits, prints etc.) running on black hardware? Thanks, Joerg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joerg Becker Kastanienweg 5 52074 Aachen Germany Phone: +49 241 870022 Fax: +49 241 870023 joerg@nextstation.ite.rwth-aachen.de (NeXT-Mail) jbecker@ite.rwth-aachen.de (non NeXT-Mail) --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sams@nbivax.nbi.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: /usr/local/include in default path for <include.h> files? Message-ID: <1994Oct14.203851.1952@nbivax.nbi.dk> Date: 14 Oct 94 20:38:51 +0100 Organization: Niels Bohr Institute and Nordita, Copenhagen How does one get /usr/local/include to be in the default path for <include.h> files? Thanks Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: brouwer@mickey.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Re: tcsh: triple fat ??? Message-ID: <CxtG71.ArD@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Keywords: tcsh, fat binaries, GNU Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany References: <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:04:12 GMT In <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) writes: >Hi, >I am looking for a triple fat version of the tcsh shell. Is there any >available? I didn't manage to install the gnu version of tcsh correctly, so >maybe someone else was more successful. >Thanks in advance for all hints. > Kind regards > Jochen There is one on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in ..../next/Unix/shell (I think). Look there... Bye, Klaus Brouwer
From: msander@bcarh85b.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Background Menus Possible? Date: 17 Oct 1994 14:08:42 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Message-ID: <MSANDER.94Oct17100842@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> References: <CxqGoI.59t@eskimo.com> <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> <37s3qn$j77@crcnis1.unl.edu> In-reply-to: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu's message of 16 Oct 1994 20:52:39 GMT [The original text has been reformatted for readability, no editing has been done -Michael] In article <37s3qn$j77@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: mmalcolm Crawford (malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: : > [Someone wants to put the menus in the background to save space.] : Not quite -- the easiest thing is probably simply to move the : menus pretty- : much off-screen, just leave the title bar showing. : This is a useful trick when using laptops (so I'm told... if : somebody wants to : give me one so that I can do more thorough research into the subject, feel : free to do so! ;-) You don't need a laptop to test this. Just set your video driver to SVGA. I like hiding them off of the lower right corner of the screen, just to the left of the dock. I used to do this too. But when the menu is off the screen like that you can't tear of menus. Arghh! So I went back to living with the menu in the default place. Does anybody know of a way to keep a pop-up menu around? Maybe a secret keypress while left clicking or something? That'd make the pop-up menus that much more useful. Of course, I don't have to anymore, and so I don't. Why don't you have to anymore? I must've missed something ... not that that's unusual. -- Michael Sanderson msander@bnr.ca ISDN Data Services (613) 765-3715 Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Ottawa, Canada "These opinions are mine ... which is good 'cause no one else wants 'em"
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: /usr/local/include in default path for <include.h> files? Date: 17 Oct 1994 14:36:01 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <37u24h$jqa@pong.ping.at> References: <1994Oct14.203851.1952@nbivax.nbi.dk> Originator: root@esprit In article <1994Oct14.203851.1952@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes: > How does one get /usr/local/include to be in the default path for > <include.h> files? > > Thanks > Thomas > When calling cc give it the flag -I/usr/local/include You can give the -I option several times to add several include-pathes. Hope it helps Hannes Tiefenbrunner _________________________________ hannes@ping.at (NeXTMail welcome)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor Recommendation Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:09:12 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <37u7j8$leq@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CxosAF.MBC@eskimo.com> In article <CxosAF.MBC@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > Being a NeXTStep newcomer, Edit looks very good. I'd like to know > what I am missing out on if I stayed with Edit for a word processor. > Perhaps form text around objects, multiple-edits(windows) on the same > file, blending in various graphics, etc? > -- While Edit is very powerful for a "built-in" editor, if your word processing needs go beyond simple letters and memos, a full-featured word-processor is -- I believe -- a necessity. Beyond the limitations you mentioned, accurate, definable page layout is especially problematic using Edit. I suggest you examine some of the third-party solutions such as WriteUp, WordPerfect, or the new Xanthus OpenWrite. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: bm10009@cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunking files... Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:12:03 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Distribution: world Message-ID: <37u483$f3c@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <37p2be$s34@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <37p2be$s34@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > In article <37ojd4$rnr@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > I am stuck, does anyone have advice on how I can split up several large > files > > onto floppies for the benefit of a friend who doesn't have access to > tape or > > SyQuest. > > Can't you just drag the files to a single floppy and let WM handle it all automatically? As I remember it pops up the processes panel and asks if you want it to chunk your files for you. It sounds like that would do what you want - this has the added advantage of automatic re-concatenation of the files when they are extracted from the floppied. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Ben Moseley bm10009@cus.cam.ac.uk ** NeXTmail OK ** "To drop is human, to juggle divine." ______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Fiery 200i printer driver for NeXTStep Message-ID: <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com> Summary: I want to find a printer driver to work with a Fiery 200i color printer Keywords: printer postscript driver fiery nextstep next Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:35:03 GMT I am trying to print some color .draw documents and I am having troubles. I need a NeXT printer driver for a Fiery 200i color postscript printer. This is the printer that the local printshop has. Any suggestions or sources? -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
From: rbinder@droopy.imag.fr (Robert Binder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TRANSLATOR /FILTER Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:17:00 GMT Organization: IMAG (ARTEMIS lab) FRANCE. Sender: rbinder@droopy (Robert Binder) Distribution: world Message-ID: <37u4hc$s85@imag.imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: NeXTStep , RTF , HTML I work on NeXTStep (3.0 ) environment. I am looking for a translator between RTF files (text and images) to HTML files. Please could you give me some informations. Thanks a lot. -- ******************************************************************************* ******************************************************************************* BINDER Robert tel : 76 63 58 64 Universite Joseph Fourier fax : 76 63 84 23 Laboratoire ARTEMIS Adresse Geographique : IMAG-Campus 220 rue de la Chimie B.P. 53 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9 Email : Robert.Binder@imag.fr ****************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: connect black next printer to intel? Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:39:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <37u5qv$dv8@news.service.uci.edu> Does anybody make a card and associated software that can connect a black next printer to an intel machine running nextstep 3.2? Any info is appreciated. Thanks. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105 Fax: 714-856-8585
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:58:20 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <37u6us$70l@news.nd.edu> References: <Iic2rJG00iV702OOx8@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Oct-94 [WANTED] > NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos.. by Jarkko Isokungas@rieska. > > I need NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples... especially Mandelbrot with sources.. > > Speaking of which: does anyone have the movies to Scene from NEXTSTEP > 2.x? Mine got nuked at some point upgrading/merging systems around. > Please email me if you have 'em & are willing to NEXTmail 'em to me. > > Thanks, > -Chuck > > > Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: > --------------------------------------------+ > AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll > NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.) I'd appreciate these as well. If you hear anything, would you mind passing the information along to me. -- -george George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Message-ID: <3004@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 17 Oct 94 16:01:54 GMT References: <CAP.94Oct14110354@NOVA.cmu.edu> <37mh2r$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> <CAP.94Oct15100419@NOVA.cmu.edu> Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). In article <CAP.94Oct15100419@NOVA.cmu.edu> cap@cmu.edu (Chris Paris) writes: >Perhaps it would be useful for someone to produce an easily >installable package containing the CM PS fonts, but I think that >configuring TeX to use them by default is the wrong thing for most >people. One of the advantages of both TeX and PostScript is >portability, but you lose that if you produce .ps files that use fonts >that nobody else has. I thought it is very possible to include the necessary ps fonts in the output file ('print to foreign printer' or so?). The resulting ps is _more_ portable than the standard dvips output, as it is resolution independent; the recipient can view it at 300dpi, 400dpi, 600dpi, 360dpi, and even 98dpi. The latter might even be readable - which started this thread. > But until someone makes a solution to >the encoding problem, this is very tedious (i.e., putting all your >space characters in a different font). I vaguely recall an easy solution posted by Scott Byer at Adobe, I'll see if I can track it down. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: /usr/local/include in default path for <include.h> files? Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:32:52 GMT Message-ID: <37u8vl$enq@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <37u24h$jqa@pong.ping.at> Hannes Tiefenbrunner writes > > How does one get /usr/local/include to be in the default path for > > <include.h> files? > > > > When calling cc give it the flag > > -I/usr/local/include > Or link it /LocalDeveloper/Headers/, if I'm right this is in the default path # ln -s /usr/local/include /LocalDeveloper/Headers hope this helps, -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scene Movies, was Re: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:46:11 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4icedHa00iUzM25t5p@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <37u6us$70l@news.nd.edu> (a) Several people (you know who you are :-) have kindly offered to send me them, and I have gotten them. Thanks! Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Oct-94 Re: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 d.. by George B. Ross: > I'd appreciate these as well. If you hear anything, would you > mind passing the information along to me. (b) I'll be happy to resend them to George as a return gesture, if he hasn't gotten them already. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unfriendly TeX Date: 17 Oct 1994 18:06:19 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <37uaub$fno@langlia.ifi.uio.no> References: <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> <1994Oct14.075730.11215@proximus.north.de> In article <1994Oct14.075730.11215@proximus.north.de>, gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: > In article <37jb3g$a15@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>, > <ward@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at> wrote: > > [...] enable me to write formulas? [...] > > FrameMaker. To slow for interactive use (FrameMaker that is). Arne (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 Date: 17 Oct 1994 17:36:09 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <37ucm9$6n5@bilbo.suite.com> References: <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> In article <36pbmc$mmh@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) writes: > When I try click the "Catch up" button on a news group with several > hundred unread articles, NewsGrazer Release 3.0 Version 75 crashes! > Slecting all of the articles and clicking the Article->Mark Read button > does the same thing. The only way that I have been able to get this to > work is to read them all or selecting a small group, marking them read, > Quiting the application and repeating the procedure until they are all > gone... > > Is there a fix for this? > > This is only a minor annoyance, but it would be nice if it did not happen > <smile>. > > Thank you for any responses about this... > > -- > Rod Ragner > Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory > College of Veterinary Medicine > Iowa State University > Ames, Iowa 50011 > Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted) This was happening to me and I discovered that if I simply wait a minute select at least one article, wait for it to display and then hit 'catch-up' that the problem doesn't occur. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Scot Shepherd -- Suite Software | Nuke the un-born gay whales -- -- Email: shepherd@suite.com | for Jesus!!! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Terminal app: help! Date: 17 Oct 1994 19:23:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: inet Message-ID: <37uivs$kp0@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CxrqFq.Fp@nx1.westminster.ca.us> In article <CxrqFq.Fp@nx1.westminster.ca.us> oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) writes: > In article <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> jmccaski@CS.Trinity.Edu > (Scott McCaskill) writes: > > In the terminal app included with NeXTStep, is there *any* way to remap > > backspace to delete (or vice versa--I can't remember which is > How about typing "stty erase " and press the "Delete" key at the > shell prompt. you can also include it in your .cshrc file as stty erase ^? or stty erase ^H (these being the most common bs key mappings) -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:00:48 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> Hi folx.... I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. Can I buy it from anybody out there? thanks! -steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript In-Reply-To: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu's message of 14 Oct 94 22:09 GMT+0300 Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <37e7gg$9ed@sun0.urz.uni-heidelbe> <1994Oct14.190958.28483@midway.uc> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:16:16 GMT Let me see if I can collect and answer some of the DPS questions in this thread. I'm not a TeX wizard - I've never even really used it - so I can only speak from what little I've read. First off, the standard TeX solution of rasterizing the fonts to a specific resolution is not optimal. The viewing problems with DPS are just one example of why. There are also printing problems with printers of different resolution. The 800x400dpi printer here can make the pre-rasterized fonts look quite ugly. The solution of using .vf files and Type 1 versions on the CM fonts is therefore appropriate. Why is GS better in this specific case? Probably because it was tuned for it. The DPS algorithm for rendering images is tuned for pictures, not for bitmaps, and it can get into trouble when subsampling severely. This can easily be solved if NeXT would update the Previewer to do anti-aliasing - standard "rasterize larger, post-process down" anti-aliasing would be perfectly adequate, and would take only a day or two to add to the source (I'm guessing). Image dictionaries now carry an /interpolate key to indicate to DPS that it should anti-alias the iamge as it goes on screen - if DPS has had that particular image type (in this case 1 bit source to n bit dest) added to the list it knows how to interpolate for. If you consider this case important, let NeXT know, and something may be able to be done about it. Even if this particular interpolation were added, the PostScript code output by dvi2ps would need to be modified to use image dictionaries when possible. Anti-aliasing such images isn't on by default since there are a number of common cases that it would mess up. Can Type 1 fonts replace CM fonts entirely? With the Multiple Master technology, yes, it can. CM fonts are heavily parameterized, sometimes along point size lines (this is known as Optical Scaling). Multiple Master fonts also handle optical scaling, and can be far more flexible in terms of what is modifiable in the character outlines than can the CM fonts. Note that Multiple Master fonts are fully backwards compatible with any PostScript interpreter. On older interpreters they may rasterize a little slower - but NeXT's Display PostScript has had the Multiple Master rasterizing optimizations in for a long time now. Creating a Multiple Master font is a little tricky, but I'm surprised that there isn't one already made. I've heard it said that NeXT's DPS doesn't handle Multiple Master fonts. This isn't correct. What NeXT _hasn't_ done is provide a Multiple Master font creator similar to the ones on the Macintosh or X/Motif. I'm quite surprised that they haven't, but missing such functionality in no way prevents Multiple Master fonts from working correctly on the system. For example, where TeX would use /cmr10 or /cmr24, the corresponding Multiple Master font would allow /Comuter-Modern_10_os and /Computer-Modern_24_os - and the outlines would be modified appropriately as they are rasterized. There is no reason the CM fonts couldn't be _exactly_ duplicated in this way. The encoding problem is quite easy to fix - the ISOLatin1Encoding vector already exists in the systemdict of NeXT's Display PostScript. All that would be required is a small modification to /definefont to change the encoding of each StandardEncoding font as it is encountered. (NeXT does something similar in order to change the encoding of each StandardEncoding font to NextStepEncoding). The modification to /definefont can be made as some prolog fed into dvi2ps - it may not even require any source code modifications to dvi2ps. If there is a TeX specific encoding that these fonts need, that would be only slightly harder to implement - it would just require more typing. If a global solution is required, the appropriate /definefont definition could be downloaded to shareddict as part of the window server startup. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.demon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:49:00 +0000 Message-ID: <199410172031.VAA07246@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:29:18 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <37uqbe$pd2@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> In article <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: > Let me see if I can collect and answer some of the DPS questions in this > thread. I'm not a TeX wizard - I've never even really used it - so I can > only speak from what little I've read. Thank you for your comments; they are very helpful. > This can > easily be solved if NeXT would update the Previewer to do anti-aliasing - > standard "rasterize larger, post-process down" anti-aliasing would be > perfectly adequate, and would take only a day or two to add to the source > (I'm guessing). NeXT has released the TeXview source, so anyone who has the necessary skills can do this. (It's on labrea.stanford.edu in /pub/texview.tar.Z) > > The encoding problem is quite easy to fix - the ISOLatin1Encoding vector > already exists in the systemdict of NeXT's Display PostScript. All that > would be required is a small modification to /definefont to change the > encoding of each StandardEncoding font as it is encountered. (NeXT does > something similar in order to change the encoding of each StandardEncoding > font to NextStepEncoding). The modification to /definefont can be made as > some prolog fed into dvi2ps - it may not even require any source code > modifications to dvi2ps. If there is a TeX specific encoding that these > fonts need, that would be only slightly harder to implement - it would just > require more typing. The dvips manual describes how to remap font encodings and the standard TeX distribution supplies the vf files you need for remapping. The source code to dvips is also avaialable on labrea.stanford.edu. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Oct14.150011.16288@midway.uc> Control: cancel <1994Oct14.150011.16288@midway.uc> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:23:43 GMT Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.1994Oct14.150011.16288@midway.uc> Cancelling spewage from notes gateway .
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From: s0uasa@fnma.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Oct14.125042.1370@almserv.uu> Control: cancel <1994Oct14.125042.1370@almserv.uu> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:23:43 GMT Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.1994Oct14.125042.1370@almserv.uu> Cancelling spewage from notes gateway .
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From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control Subject: cmsg cancel <-1584829738@Pine.NXT.3.91.941014135029.2836F> Control: cancel <-1584829738@Pine.NXT.3.91.941014135029.2836F> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:23:43 GMT Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.-1584829738@Pine.NXT.3.91.941014135029.2836F> Cancelling spewage from notes gateway .
From: black.knight@btf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control Subject: cmsg cancel <-286528973@btf.com> Control: cancel <-286528973@btf.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:23:43 GMT Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.-286528973@btf.com> Cancelling spewage from notes gateway .
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [WANTED] NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:50:42 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <37urji$2gc@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <Iic2rJG00iV702OOx8@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <Iic2rJG00iV702OOx8@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: |>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Oct-94 [WANTED] |>NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos.. by Jarkko Isokungas@rieska. |>> I need NeXTSTEP 2.1 demos/examples... especially Mandelbrot with sources.. |> |>Speaking of which: does anyone have the movies to Scene from NEXTSTEP |>2.x? Mine got nuked at some point upgrading/merging systems around. |>Please email me if you have 'em & are willing to NEXTmail 'em to me. |> |>Thanks, |>-Chuck |> |> |>Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: |>--------------------------------------------+ |>AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll |>NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.) Hi Charles, If you havent received them already, let me know, and I will mail them to you. Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Background Menus Possible? Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:53:54 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <37urpi$2gf@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> In article <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: |>> When I want the extra desktop, it's nice to be able to park the icon |>> dock in the background with an Alt-Click. Can the same thing be done |>> to menus. This can be a desireable feature when the mouse menu button |>> is enabled. |>> |>Not quite -- the easiest thing is probably simply to move the menus pretty- |>much off-screen, just leave the title bar showing. |>This is a useful trick when using laptops (so I'm told... if somebody wants to |>give me one so that I can do more thorough research into the subject, feel |>free to do so! ;-) |> |>Have fun, |> |>mmalcolm. Hi, I often use the trick Malcolm mentions, with placing the menus at the bottom of the screen, sp only the titlebar is visible, and if I then need to access the menu, I use the right mousebutton, which makes it appear right under the cursor. Works fine for me. Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphical SLIP Software Date: 17 Oct 1994 19:32:47 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37v1iv$b22@anshar.shadow.net> I am trying to determine the demand for a graphical SLIP package. The packages currently available are all difficult-to-configure command-line apps, and the commercial versions are expensive. Would you be interested in a completely graphical SLIP package, and what might you pay? I need to determine the commercial viability of a ~$200 tri-fat app. Please send responses to jjfox@shadow.net Thank You, Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.user From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: relative URLs Message-ID: <Cxu3IE.MDv@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:27:50 GMT I'm developing some html documents on my machine which will eventually reside on another machine. I use relative URL pathnames throughout, in the form <IMG src="icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> <H2><IMG src="icons/Lecture.tiff"> for items in the icon directory beneath the directory of the document containing those references. I've also tried references in the form: <IMG src="./icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> <H2><IMG src="./icons/Lecture.tiff"> I have no trouble viewing the icons from my own machine, but (using OmniWeb) when I access the copy of the document (SCS.html) on the 'real' host, I get: Fatal Error 401 Unauthorized Access Denied http://mathstat.yorku.ca/SCS/SCS.html/icons/SCSlogo.tiff It appears that OmniWeb has taken it's pathname relative to the name of the current file, rather than to the directory in which it resides. I don't know if this is a problem with OmniWeb, or with how I am specifying the URLs. Can anyone enlighten me? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q:Cobol for NextStep? Date: 18 Oct 1994 01:50:55 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <37v9lv$ldc@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <rfenney-171094011550@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> In article <rfenney-171094011550@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) writes: -> > what Cobol compilers are available for NEXTSTEP? -> Call me ... but I hope NONE!!!!!! There used to be one listed in the big NEXTSTEP 3rd party product catalog. It was from a fairly mainstream COBOL company. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Noteability.app and CIUSA. Message-ID: <CxuK5L.13w@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 02:27:20 GMT Hi, I grabbed CIUSA's beta/demo of Noteability.app from ftp.cs.orst.edu. I would actually like to pay them some money, and get a full version... When I e-mail them I get an "Account suspended" message from their e-mail supplier. When I phone them, I get an answering machine. I've left messsages, but no response. Does CIUSA still exist, or have they gone down the gurgler? If they are still alive, how can I contact them? If dead, is there any other music notation software around for NeXTSTEP that is as good as Noteability? Thanks, Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, | NeXTmail Welcome New Zealand | Microsoft - We put the "backwards" into backwards compatibility
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: overrunning my buffer Message-ID: <CxuoAG.99v@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 03:56:40 GMT I use Microphone Pro and am having trouble when downloading. Every 10-15 blocks, I get a receive buffer overrun and it it needs to re-try the block. For your troubleshooting information: Modem Type- Prac Periph 28.8 Harware Handshaking on...i tried HHS off Baud setting...19.2 thank you in advance ericd
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 18 Oct 1994 07:29:17 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <37vtgd$dht@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <37uqbe$pd2@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes: >In article <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com >(Scott Byer) writes: [...] >> This [anti-aliasing] can >> easily be solved if NeXT would update the Previewer to do anti-aliasing - >> standard "rasterize larger, post-process down" anti-aliasing would be >> perfectly adequate, and would take only a day or two to add to the source >> (I'm guessing). >NeXT has released the TeXview source, so anyone who has the necessary >skills can do this. (It's on labrea.stanford.edu in /pub/texview.tar.Z) Of TeXview, there already is a version that does anti-aliasing. It is currently being maintained by Raf Schietekat ( flexus!RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be ). Preview is another matter, but maybe some third party is working on solving this and other problems... Marcel
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I get CHINESE MS Windows to work under Soft-PC? Date: 18 Oct 1994 06:52:45 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <37vrbt$a2j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> How do I get CHINESE MS Windows to work under Soft-PC? Thank in advance! (p.s. what is e-mail address for Soft-PC folks?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Background Menus Possible? Message-ID: <CxuvIt.G31@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <941016164054.271AACUF.malc@jeeves> <37urpi$2gf@machthenext.dannug.dk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 06:36:28 GMT Michael Hallin (work@dannug.dk) wrote: : I often use the trick Malcolm mentions, with placing the menus at the bottom of : the screen, sp only the titlebar is visible, and if I then need to access the : menu, I use the right mousebutton, which makes it appear right under the : cursor. Works fine for me. Thanks to everyone for that idea. James D. Meacham wrote me a letter indicating that BackManager would do what I asked for, and that I should be able to find it at orst. But I had no such luck. He offered to mail it to me, however my first attempted response bounced. Hopefully I'll get through to him. . . . -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: s-dorney@gvsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <s-dorney.1.2EA3BD81@gvsu.edu> Control: cancel <s-dorney.1.2EA3BD81@gvsu.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:21:14 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <s-dorney.2.2EA3BDBA@gvsu.edu> Keywords: x-windows
From: s-dorney@gvsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <s-dorney.1.2EA3BD81@gvsu.edu> Control: cancel <s-dorney.1.2EA3BD81@gvsu.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:21:30 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <s-dorney.3.2EA3BDCA@gvsu.edu> Keywords: x-windows
From: s-dorney@gvsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting up new machine Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:27:09 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <s-dorney.4.2EA3BF1D@gvsu.edu> I am in the process of setting up a new office and NEXT workstation. My previous experience has been using SUNs running UNIX and X-Windows. In addition to X-Windows, some of the other development tools and applications that I plan to use use are: LaTeX Emacs Athena Widgets or Motif (for user interface development, if possible) IDraw C, and C++ I will also need to run several DOS applications. Since I have relatively little experience with NEXT and NEXTSTEP, I am seeking some advice prior to purchasing software. Some of the following packages have been suggested. SoftPC Cub'X-Window eXodus co-Xist Connect! Any advice/suggestions would be helpful. Please reply via e-mail to dorneys@gvsu.edu as I am not a regular reader of this news group. Thanks in advance. S. Dorney
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.user Subject: Re: relative URLs Date: 18 Oct 1994 12:38:35 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <380fkb$2p2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Cxu3IE.MDv@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: >I'm developing some html documents on my machine which will eventually reside >on another machine. I use relative URL pathnames throughout, in the form ><IMG src="icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> ><H2><IMG src="icons/Lecture.tiff"> >for items in the icon directory beneath the directory of the document >containing those references. I've also tried references in the form: ><IMG src="./icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> ><H2><IMG src="./icons/Lecture.tiff"> >I have no trouble viewing the icons from my own machine, but (using OmniWeb) >when I access the copy of the document (SCS.html) on the 'real' host, I get: >Fatal Error 401 Unauthorized Access Denied >http://mathstat.yorku.ca/SCS/SCS.html/icons/SCSlogo.tiff >It appears that OmniWeb has taken it's pathname relative to the name of the >current file, rather than to the directory in which it resides. >I don't know if this is a problem with OmniWeb, or with how I am specifying >the URLs. Can anyone enlighten me? I've encountered similar problems on a standalone machine fooled into thinking it's on a network. I'm on the staff of a soon-to-be-released Web humor magazine and we set up an NCSA httpd server for layout and prototyping. As long as the links point to files within a directory tree (for example, /WWW/*.html or /WWW/*/*.html all is well. Links to files in other directories work if the absolute pathway is given (e.g. /homes/indy/public_html/*.html) but imagemapping doesn't work, I think because calls are made across the simulated network. I, too, get the "Fatal Error-Unauthorized Access Denied" message. We have yet to mount a demo on a true networked server, but I'm concerned. The last thing we want is a first issue with bum links. Wil, Greg or Tim, any suggestions? -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiery 200i printer driver for NeXTStep Message-ID: <1994Oct18.081729.30272@cc.usu.edu> Date: 18 Oct 94 08:17:29 MDT References: <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com> Organization: Utah State University In article <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com>, rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: > I am trying to print some color .draw documents and I am having troubles. > > I need a NeXT printer driver for a Fiery 200i color postscript printer. This > is the printer that the local printshop has. > > Any suggestions or sources? All you need is the PPD (PostScript Printer Definition) file. Your printshop should be able to give you a copy. It is just a text file. Then you will need to put that PPD file in the folder ~/Library/PrinterTypes Make sure you name the file with a .ppd extension. Now add a new printer with PrintManager.app of the newly added type. Now whenever you print your stuff to this printer, just hit save on the print panel and pick "Chosen Printer - Include Fonts" and you are set. You might also have some luck finding the PPD at ftp.adobe.com (I think). ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst slxn8@cc.usu.edu -or- [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 18 Oct 1994 15:22:11 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <380p73$9ib@potogold.rmii.com> References: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> In article <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) writes: > Hi folx.... > > I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got > the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy > it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time > there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. > Can I buy it from anybody out there? Tailor 2.0 is an outstanding application. It is available from OpenSource, Inc. The Educational price for Tailor 2.0 Office is $248, for the Publishing version it is $498. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: ptruman@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (-=Falcon=-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT News Poster Date: 18 Oct 1994 15:45:51 +0100 Organization: M.O.D Nuclear Weapons Design Centre, Aldermaston. Message-ID: <380n2v$jsp@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Does anyone have a copy of a NeXT news posting program? I have News Grazer but the poster program is NOT on our NeXT net...... And News Grazer bitches about not having one... Any ideas? Please post binaries in TAR'd UUEncoded format ONLY ***NO*** NeXT mail please.... Pete -- .---. .----------- / \ __ / ------ / / \( )/ ----- Peter James Truman ////// ' \/ ` --- -=Falcon=- //// / // : : --- ptruman@rowan.cov.ac.uk // / / /` '-- xuncn@csv.warwick.ac.uk // //..\\ ----UU----UU------------------------------------------------- '//||\\` "The avalanche has already started...." ''`` "It is too late for the pebbles to vote now....."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Message-ID: <1994Oct18.012118.569@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <37h3k0$qpa@fermat.mayo.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 01:21:18 GMT In article <37h3k0$qpa@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes: > In article <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher > Penrose) writes: > > Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? > > 3270vision from conextions. I don't remember the price, but the function is > very good. Write info@conextions.com for more info. Another vote for 3270Vision from Conextions, Inc. Outstanding functionality. Write info@conextions.com for details. -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 18 Oct 1994 11:06:50 -0500 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Message-ID: <380rqq$6k1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> In article <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu>, Steve Spicklemire <steve@estel.uindy.edu> wrote: > I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got >the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy >it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time >there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. >Can I buy it from anybody out there? You can also contact the following and see if they can sell you Tailor at an educational price: Alembic Systems International Ltd. Englewood, CO Voice: (800) 452-7608 Fax: (303) 799-1435 e-mail: alembic@alembic.com GS Corporation Kentfield, CA Voice: (800) 999-8844 Fax: (415) 257-4707 e-mail: info@goldleaf.com I do not speak for any of these companies. I just retyped what I read in NEXT IN LINE. ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical SLIP Software Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:38:29 GMT Organization: GlobalCom Message-ID: <380tm5$9cr@goodnews.globalcom.net> References: <37v1iv$b22@anshar.shadow.net> In article <37v1iv$b22@anshar.shadow.net>, jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) says: > >I am trying to determine the demand for a graphical SLIP package. The >packages currently available are all difficult-to-configure command-line >apps, and the commercial versions are expensive. Would you be >interested in a completely graphical SLIP package, and what might you >pay? There is already a graphical SLIP app called SlipCommander. What there *isn't* is a product that does the same for the PPP version out there on ftp.duq.edu. You will need to support: PPP, *dynamic IP addressing* (very important). Suggestion: if this is going to be a for-profit app, contact some of the big access providers, and have their login scripts included into the app distribution. ie click on Netcom PPP icon/selection to be configured for a Netcom acct; user need only add local phone number/nameservers. Then, having scripted these guys, they will (probably) be happy to steer customers your way, if their customers use NextStep. >I need to determine the commercial viability of a ~$200 tri-fat app. I am not sure about the $200 price. About $99 (or less) would be better. You could maybe make more by selling tech support separately? Just some thoughts... Patrick
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Terminal app: help! Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:44:56 GMT Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Oct19014457@hp01.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> References: <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> <CxrqFq.Fp@nx1.westminster.ca.us> In-reply-to: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us's message of Sun, 16 Oct 1994 13:50:13 GMT >>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 1994 13:50:13 GMT, oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) said: Oscar> In article <37ppao$fde@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> jmccaski@CS.Trinity.Edu Oscar> (Scott McCaskill) writes: > In the terminal app included with NeXTStep, is there *any* way to remap > backspace to delete (or vice versa--I can't remember which is > necessary)? As I'm sure you can understand, not having a working > backspace key (with certain unix programs, like ytalk for example) is > exceedingly annoying. I have looked through all the settings I could > find for Terminal, but haven't found any way to change that setting. > > Does anyone know how to fix this? Any help would be greatly Oscar> appreciated. > Oscar> How about typing "stty erase " and press the "Delete" key at the Oscar> shell prompt. You might want to look into Stuart by Scott Hess on the standard archives. It's shareware and affordable. I think it provides a much better emulation than Terminal.app. As for delete vs. backspace, there is Info->Preferences->Emulation choice for doing so. This is one of the things Stuart is better than Terminal at. Hope this helps. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN ... posting from kyoto....
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript Date: 18 Oct 1994 17:24:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <3810cn$ngp@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> In article <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: >Note >that Multiple Master fonts are fully backwards compatible with any >PostScript interpreter. On older interpreters they may rasterize a little >slower - but NeXT's Display PostScript has had the Multiple Master >rasterizing optimizations in for a long time now. Creating a Multiple >Master font is a little tricky, but I'm surprised that there isn't one >already made. > >I've heard it said that NeXT's DPS doesn't handle Multiple Master fonts. >This isn't correct. What NeXT _hasn't_ done is provide a Multiple Master >font creator similar to the ones on the Macintosh or X/Motif. I'm quite >surprised that they haven't, but missing such functionality in no way >prevents Multiple Master fonts from working correctly on the system. Adobe Acrobat reader V1.0 for Suns, available free via FTP from ftp.adobe.com, includes two Multi-Master fonts: AdobeSansXMM.font AdobeSerifMM.font and a regular font ZapfDingbats.font, which NeXT's don't come with. Is it legal to use these fonts distributed free on NEXTSTEP? Legality aside, will it work at all? I've read the license, but it's not clear. I can install Acrobat reader for Suns on NS. Though the app won't run, fonts may be fine. It appears that some work may be needed as there is no "*.afm" files in the font directory, only "*.AMFM" and "*.AFM" (in captal). NeXT should really license these 3 additional fonts, and support Multi Master fonts on the base NS. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: zaphod@bcu.ubc.ca (Lance Bailey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: elm 2.4 on next Date: 18 Oct 1994 17:58:49 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <3812cp$7od@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> i have 2.3PL11 of elm running on my system. i'd like to move to 2.4, but will not compile, anyone have luck in this? -- Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager BioSciences Computing Unit NeXT/email: zaphod@bcu.ubc.ca box: University of British Columbia fax: +1 604 822 2416 6270 University Boulevard vox: +1 604 822 6527 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Date: 17 Oct 1994 20:28:10 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct17212810@steffi.dircon.co.uk> -- "When you try them you _know_ why they're there.More security, more freshness." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ruml@dove.harvard.edu (Wheeler Ruml) Subject: Intel Net Software Message-ID: <RUML.94Oct18152236@dove.harvard.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: usenet@das.harvard.edu Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 19:22:36 GMT I just got a 486 running NS/I, and it's now connected to the Internet. What are the *must have* applications that I should get in order to have a nice NeXT GUI for all my net roaming? There must be a nice FTP, WWW, telnet, gopher, archie... running under NS/I. I have Cub'X Windows but would like to use it as little as possible... Any advice, pointers, or help for a newbie much appreciated! Thanks, Wheeler -- Science: all activities concerned with "extending the range of human experience and reducing it to order." - Niels Bohr -- Science: all activities concerned with "extending the range of human experience and reducing it to order." - Niels Bohr
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Losing apps ... need replacements! Date: 18 Oct 1994 19:27:38 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I need to find replacement apps for black apps that cannot be upgraded to white hardware. I know that similar posts have appeared on the net before --- i believed that I would use black forever and never paid any attention to it :-(. But now that I am finally making the move from Black to White I am caught of guard. Are there any suitable/comparable replacements for WriteNow, Improv, Framemaker? I would also like to know if the replacement apps can import their native files. I use WriteNow and Improv all the time and am greatly dissapointed to see no way of running it on white. These two apps are extremely useful IMO, and I would have paid money for it if I had to (and still would for an upgrade if I could). As for Framemaker, the upgrade is insanely expensive and would like to try something else. Thanks in advance. --- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vince@fnbc.com (Vince Shay) Subject: Availability of VirtSpace 3.0 licenses Message-ID: <1994Oct18.160359.10351@fnbc.com> Keywords: virtspace Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 16:03:59 GMT I need to contact whoever (hopefully) is still marketing VirtSpace. We need to run a fat binary version which I was able to obtain from an archive. However, the licensing vendor, Pinnacle Research, no longer answers the phone or responds to email. Does anyone have knowledge of whether a licensed or unlicensed copy of this software can be obtained. Thanks Vince Shay
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT News Poster Date: 18 Oct 1994 22:15:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <381hdo$32r@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <380n2v$jsp@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> In article <380n2v$jsp@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> ptruman@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (-=Falcon=-) writes: >> Does anyone have a copy of a NeXT news posting program? >> I have News Grazer but the poster program is NOT on our NeXT net...... >> And News Grazer bitches about not having one... >> >> Any ideas? I thought you only need to install CNews.pkg, available from ftp.cs.orst.edu. >> >> Please post binaries in TAR'd UUEncoded format ONLY No .. don't post binaries ... at least not here -- _________________________________________________________________________ Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Losing apps ... need replacements! Date: 18 Oct 1994 18:31:01 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <381ib5$dto@anshar.shadow.net> References: <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Michael C. Cam (mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca) wrote: : But now that I am finally making the move from Black to White I am caught : of guard. Are there any suitable/comparable replacements for WriteNow, : Improv, Framemaker? I would also like to know if the replacement apps can : import their native files. I use WriteNow and Improv all the time and am : greatly dissapointed to see no way of running it on white. These two apps : are extremely useful IMO, and I would have paid money for it if I had to : (and still would for an upgrade if I could). As for Framemaker, the : upgrade is insanely expensive and would like to try something else. AFS WriteUp is a capable word processor, but if you need a more advanced app, Xanthus OpenWrite should be available in a month or so. Lighthouse Design is readying Questor, which looks to be everything Improv was and more. While FrameMaker has made the transition to Intel, the cost is prohibitive. Alternatives are AFS PasteUp and Pages Software Pages 1.5. - Jay NeXTmail...Yes!
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Availability of VirtSpace 3.0 licenses Date: 18 Oct 1994 23:41:48 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <381mfs$enn@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct18.160359.10351@fnbc.com> In article <1994Oct18.160359.10351@fnbc.com> vince@fnbc.com (Vince Shay) writes: > I need to contact whoever (hopefully) is still marketing VirtSpace. > We need to run a fat binary version which I was able to obtain from an > archive. However, the licensing vendor, Pinnacle Research, no longer > answers the phone or responds to email. Does anyone have knowledge of > whether a licensed or unlicensed copy of this software can be obtained. > Thanks > Vince Shay Although Pinnacle is gone, their wonderful VirtSpace is still available. It is now by Nyro and is available through OpenSource for $90. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Losing apps ... need replacements! Date: 18 Oct 1994 23:47:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <381mr2$ep3@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: > > Hi, > > I need to find replacement apps for black apps that cannot be upgraded to > white hardware. I know that similar posts have appeared on the net before > --- i believed that I would use black forever and never paid any attention > to it :-(. > > But now that I am finally making the move from Black to White I am caught > of guard. Are there any suitable/comparable replacements for WriteNow, > Improv, Framemaker? I would also like to know if the replacement apps can > import their native files. I use WriteNow and Improv all the time and am > greatly dissapointed to see no way of running it on white. These two apps > are extremely useful IMO, and I would have paid money for it if I had to > (and still would for an upgrade if I could). As for Framemaker, the > upgrade is insanely expensive and would like to try something else. > > Thanks in advance. WriteUp by AFS is a nice replacement for WriteNow. There are also other word processors available that will import your WriteNow files. Lighthouse's upcoming Quantrix is very similar to Improv and will import those files. Framemaker is now available for "white" hardware. All of these products, as well as additional information about them, are available from OpenSource, Inc. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript In-Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 18 Oct 1994 17:24:39 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct18154929@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <BYER.94Oct17131616@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <3810cn$ngp@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:49:29 GMT Izumi Ohzawa writes: Izumi> Adobe Acrobat reader V1.0 for Suns, available free via FTP from Izumi> ftp.adobe.com, includes two Multi-Master fonts: AdobeSansXMM.font Izumi> AdobeSerifMM.font and a regular font ZapfDingbats.font, which NeXT's Izumi> don't come with. Izumi> Is it legal to use these fonts distributed free on NEXTSTEP? Izumi> Legality aside, will it work at all? I've read the license, but it's Izumi> not clear. I can install Acrobat reader for Suns on NS. Though the Izumi> app won't run, fonts may be fine. I don't know about the legality, but they _will_ work. I debugged the font substitution work I did on my NeXT under DisplayTalk. (Substitution is the purpose of AdobeSansXMM and AdobeSerifMM - they're really boring fonts otherwise.) Izumi> It appears that some work may be needed as there is no "*.afm" files Izumi> in the font directory, only "*.AMFM" and "*.AFM" (in captal). ".AFM" and ".afm" are the same thing. Just rename it. ".AMFM" files are for the use of a font creator, so that it can know what axis and what limits for those axis to put up. Izumi> NeXT should really license these 3 additional fonts, and support Izumi> Multi Master fonts on the base NS. Yes, NeXT needs a font creator as part of the font panel. The Display PostScript in NEXTSTEP already has all the support it needs. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel Net Software Date: 18 Oct 1994 19:17:03 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <381l1f$eqr@anshar.shadow.net> References: <RUML.94Oct18152236@dove.harvard.edu> Wheeler Ruml (ruml@dove.harvard.edu) wrote: : I just got a 486 running NS/I, and it's now connected to the Internet. : What are the *must have* applications that I should get in order to : have a nice NeXT GUI for all my net roaming? There must be a nice : FTP, WWW, telnet, gopher, archie... running under NS/I. I have Cub'X : Windows but would like to use it as little as possible... GatorFTP Archie Gopher NewsGrazer OmniWeb Telnet All can be found on the various NeXT archives, including ftp.cs.orst.edu & ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. OmniWeb and OmniImageFilters (for viewing inline images) can be found on ftp.omnigroup.com. - Jay NeXTmail...Yes!
From: claude@pressure2.colorado.edu (Claude Carlier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 19 Oct 1994 02:08:45 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <381v3d$ins@lace.Colorado.EDU> References: <380rqq$6k1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> In article <380rqq$6k1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) writes: > In article <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu>, > Steve Spicklemire <steve@estel.uindy.edu> wrote: > > I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got > >the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy > >it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time > >there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. > >Can I buy it from anybody out there? Forget Alembic and GS, I recommend you try OpenSource. Here is how to contact them: Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com>(NeXTmail welcome) 1-800-TRY-OPEN You can check their catalog at: http://stepwise.com/Resellers/OpenSource.htmld/index.html Claude Carlier University of Colorado
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1994Oct17.234621.1740@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 23:46:21 GMT In article <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: > > Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or > > Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will > > enable you to work in these languages? > > > There is a full Japanese version of NEXTSTEP, 3.2J, available from Canon Japan > and various others. It's expensive, though, and I'm not sure how you order it > from the US. > > Have fun, > > mmalcolm. Here s the conditions in france (I think they are the same for US) NEXTSTEP 3.2J FIP User, Kanji (ref N5604) : 6 750,00 FF (i.e. 1300$) NEXTSTEP 3.2J FIP Dev, Kanji (ref N5600) : 21 450,00 FF (i.e. 4000$) *no edu prices* If you want to develop japanese app, I think you need the japanese version and not 3.2 Dev/US :-( -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: buzz@marvin.FB10.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: /usr/local/include in default path for <include.h> files? Date: 18 Oct 1994 00:13:35 +0100 Organization: Marvins Home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <37v0ev$rj4@marvin.FB10.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <1994Oct14.203851.1952@nbivax.nbi.dk> <37u24h$jqa@pong.ping.at> In-reply-to: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at's message of 17 Oct 1994 15:36:01 MET In article <37u24h$jqa@pong.ping.at> hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) writes: > In article <1994Oct14.203851.1952@nbivax.nbi.dk> sams@nbivax.nbi.dk writes: > > How does one get /usr/local/include to be in the default path for > > <include.h> files? > > > > Thanks > > Thomas > > > > When calling cc give it the flag > > -I/usr/local/include > > You can give the -I option several times to add several include-pathes. > marvin buzz 122 (.../unix/ocs): strings /lib/m68k/cpp | more [...] /usr/local/include /NextDeveloper/Headers [...] Seems like it already is in the default search path. Greetings Bastian -- Bastian Schlueter Tel.: +49 30 /693 49 26 (privateVoice) Urbanstr. 25 Aufg. E 691 54 79 (privateData) D-10967 Berlin 314 25 973 (uni) Germany buzz@(cs|marvin.fb10).TU-Berlin.DE (NeXTmail welcome) -- Radfahrer haben nichts zu verlieren, als ihre Ketten --
From: stanifor@shasta.cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: command line interface to Webster Date: 19 Oct 1994 00:08:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Distribution: usa Message-ID: <381o2i$9m1@mark.ucdavis.edu> I seem to remember that a command line interface to Webster exists, but I can't remember what it's called or locate it. Can anyone give me a pointer? Thanks, Stuart. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart Staniford-Chen | Dept of Computer Science stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu | UC Davis, Davis, CA 95616 (916) 752-2149 - work | and (916) 756-8697 - home | N St. Cohousing Community Home page is http://everest.cs.ucdavis.edu/~stanifor/home.html
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend.app! - 3fat dock extender extraordinaire ! Date: 19 Oct 1994 02:46:42 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410190746.AA15451@alleg.EDU> David C. Lambert has fulfilled a wish. Actually several. A dock extender with different levels, which uses BackSpace, hides icons that it launches (if desired), will auto-launch applications, recognizes when applications quit.... much much more... I can't eevn begin to explain it! He freely admits that he began by modifying MonsterShelf. Anyone who uses MonsterShelf should look at this app (before I forget, it can be found by anonftp at ftp 129.187.249.15. Do 'cd next' and then look under Tools/dock/Fiend.1.0.NIH.b.tar.gz). It is everything I hoped for. Thanks David! TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: elm 2.4 on next Date: 19 Oct 1994 10:04:20 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <382qv4$13e@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3812cp$7od@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <3812cp$7od@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> zaphod@bcu.ubc.ca (Lance Bailey) writes: > i have 2.3PL11 of elm running on my system. i'd like to move to 2.4, but > will not compile, anyone have luck in this? > I am running elm 2.4 patch level 24 on NeXT. I strongly recommend to install this last version because in the previous versions there were some problems with the alias system. You have to use the compile flags -bsd -fwritable-strings, specify the include file directory as /usr/include/bsd, and change, at the 'edit the config.sh' file prompt, the value of d_memcpy to undef and sigtype to int. Also you have to set d_memcpy='undef' This is my config.sh #!/bin/sh # config.sh # This file was produced by running the Configure script. Log='$Log' Header='$Header' bin='/home/wiss/mandel/elm-test/bin' contains='grep' cppstdin='/lib/cpp' cppminus='' d_getopt='define' d_memcpy='undef' d_mkdir='define' d_rename='define' d_symlink='define' d_whoami='undef' n='-n' c='' orderlib='false' ranlib='/bin/ranlib' package='elm2' pager='builtin+' prefshell='/bin/tcsh' startsh='#!/bin/sh' d_eunice='undef' define='define' eunicefix=':' loclist=' cat chgrp chmod cp echo expr grep ln ls make mv rm sed sleep touch tr ' expr='/bin/expr' sed='/bin/sed' echo='/bin/echo' cat='/bin/cat' rm='/bin/rm' mv='/bin/mv' cp='/bin/cp' tail='' tr='/usr/bin/tr' mkdir='' sort='' uniq='' grep='/bin/grep' trylist=' Mcc compress cpp date emacs execmail ispell line lint lp lpr mailx mips more nroff pack pg pmake pr rmail sendmail shar smail submit tar tbl test troff uname uuname vi ' test='test' inews='' ispell='ispell' egrep='' more='/usr/ucb/more' pg='pg' Mcc='Mcc' vi='/usr/ucb/vi' mailx='mailx' mail='' cpp='/lib/cpp' perl='' emacs='/usr/bin/emacs' ls='/bin/ls' rmail='/bin/rmail' sendmail='/usr/lib/sendmail' shar='/usr/bin/shar' smail='smail' submit='' tbl='/usr/bin/tbl' troff='/usr/bin/troff' nroff='/usr/bin/nroff' uname='uname' uuname='/usr/bin/uuname' line='line' chgrp='/bin/chgrp' chmod='/bin/chmod' lint='lint' sleep='/usr/bin/sleep' pr='/bin/pr' tar='/bin/tar' ln='/bin/ln' lpr='/usr/ucb/lpr' lp='lp' touch='/usr/bin/touch' make='/bin/make' date='/bin/date' csh='' pmake='pmake' mips='false' col='' pack='pack' compress='/bin/compress' execmail='' libswanted='intl nls' c_date='Wed Sep 14 19:05:41 MET DST 1994' d_ascii='undef' d_broke_ctype='define' d_calendar='define' calendar='calendar' d_chown_neg1='define' d_content='undef' d_crypt='define' cryptlib='' d_cuserid='undef' d_disphost='undef' d_domname='define' d_usegetdom='define' d_errlst='define' d_flock='undef' d_dotlock='define' d_fcntlock='undef' lock_dir='/usr/spool/uucp' has_flock='undef' has_fcntl='undef' d_ftruncate='define' d_gethname='define' d_douname='undef' d_host_comp='undef' ign_hname='n' d_havetlib='define' termlib='-ltermlib' d_index='undef' d_internet='define' d_ispell='define' ispell_path='/usr/local/inst/bin/ispell' ispell_options='' d_locale='undef' d_nl_types='undef' d_msgcat='undef' d_usenls='define' d_mallocvoid='undef' d_mboxedit='define' d_mime='define' defencoding='8bit' defcharset='US-ASCII' defdispcharset='US-ASCII' d_mmdf='undef' d_newauto='define' d_noaddfrom='define' d_usedomain='undef' d_noxheader='undef' d_pidcheck='define' d_ptem='undef' d_putenv='undef' d_remlock='undef' maxattempts='6' d_setgid='define' d_savegrpmboxid='define' mailermode='2755' d_sigvec='define' d_sigvectr='undef' d_sigset='undef' d_sighold='undef' d_sigprocmask='undef' d_sigblock='define' d_sigaction='undef' d_strcspn='define' d_strspn='define' d_strpbrk='define' d_strerror='define' d_strftime='define' d_strings='define' d_pwdinsys='undef' strings='/usr/include/bsd/strings.h' includepath='/usr/include/bsd' d_strstr='define' d_strtok='define' d_subshell='define' d_tempnam='undef' tempnamo='' tempnamc='' d_termio='undef' d_termios='undef' d_useembed='define' d_utimbuf='undef' d_vfork='define' defbatsub='no subject (file transmission)' defeditor='/usr/local/inst/bin/vile' editoropts='' hostname='calefon' phostname='hostname' mydomain='.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de' autohostname='define' i_memory='define' i_stdarg='define' i_stdlib='undef' i_time='define' i_systime='define' d_systimekernel='undef' i_unistd='define' i_utime='define' i_sysutime='undef' lib='/home/wiss/mandel/elm-test/lib' libc='/lib/libsys_s.a' linepr='/usr/ucb/lpr' maildir='/usr/spool/mail' mailer='/usr/lib/sendmail' mailgrp='staff' mansrc='/usr/man/man1' catmansrc='/usr/man/catn' manext='.1' manext_choice='.1' catmanext='.1' catmanext_choice='.1' packed='n' manroff='/usr/bin/nroff' manroffopts='' suffix='' packer='' models='none' split='' small='' medium='' large='' huge='' optimize='-O' ccflags='-bsd -fwritable-strings' cppflags='' ldflags='' cc='cc' libs='' nametype='other' d_passnames='undef' d_berknames='undef' d_usgnames='undef' passcat='cat /etc/passwd' rmttape='unknown-remote-tape-unit' roff='/usr/bin/troff' roffopts='' sigtype='int' spitshell='cat' shsharp='true' sharpbang='#!' tmpdir='/tmp' tzname_handling='TM_ZONE' use_pmake='n' xencf='' xenlf='' d_xenix='undef' d_bsd='undef' CONFIG=true -- /// (. .) +oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Luis Mandel mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | | http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~mandel |
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] NeXTTime and it's future Date: 19 Oct 1994 08:43:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <382m8a$k2o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is NeXTTime going to ship with 3.3? How about 4.0? What is the current price for the NeXTTime CD-ROM? Anyone selling one used? Is it going anywhere? It was over a year ago I saw it and thought it was rather impressive technologically and I have yet to see anything major come of it. -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ronan@quay.ie (Ronan Jameson) Subject: ? Webster Dictionary command-line interface ? Message-ID: <1994Oct19.111942.23801@quay.ie> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 11:19:42 GMT Organization: Q.F.S. Dublin, Ireland. Does anyone remember hearing of a command-line interface to the Webster dictionary - our NeXT's here are quite a distance from me, so any util that could provide a CLI (or indeed better) to Webster would be very useful. in advance etc, RJJ.
From: pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: tex and latex update for a NeXTstation: how? Date: 19 Oct 1994 11:34:20 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Message-ID: <38307s$597@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <37hb0n$of2@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <37jkf2$4cn@crcnis1.unl.edu> <37kl7u$nj5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I too had no problems installing LaTeX2e, so just go on with the installation as mentioned in the package ... Ask about specific problems, if you encounter any ... Renato ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Whois.app "mini example" available for anonymous FTP Date: 19 Oct 1994 13:16:00 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <38366g$ruj@nic-nac.CSU.net> A simple NEXTSTEP app implementing the Internet whois/finger protocols is available for anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230] as pub/Whois-1.0.tar.Z (Unless you're a silly Webhead, in which case it's available for <A HREF="ftp://sutro.sfsu.edu/pub/Whois-1.0.tar.Z">anonymous ftp</A>) 51K compressed, 183K expanded; BSD sum 40623; md5 25486dd67d575e299d1096538b12c53d Full source for NS 2.1 and 3.2 included along with 2.1 executable and 3.2 fat (m68k+i486) executable. Only tested on m68k. No color, no localization, no NXHelp, no SOCKS or term support, no documentation. Freeware (of course). Also available on the same site: whois.tar.Z (a better command-line whois than the one NeXT bundles with 3.2; source code only) -=EPS=-
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NeXTTime and it's future Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:23:10 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AidGjC_00iVDE2PQdi@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <382m8a$k2o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Oct-94 [Q] NeXTTime and it's future by David Jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc > Is NeXTTime going to ship with 3.3? How about 4.0? What is the current > price for the NeXTTime CD-ROM? Anyone selling one used? I believe NeXTTime is and will continue to be a seperate product from NEXTSTEP. 1-800-TRY-NEXT will sell it to yuo for around $90 or so. However, people got it from $20 at Expo and you might be able to pick it up for much cheaper. > Is it going anywhere? It was over a year ago I saw it and thought it was > rather impressive technologically and I have yet to see anything major > come of it. I believe NeXT has been working on providing a public API so that we can program with it. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: .xmodemaprc Date: 19 Oct 1994 14:53:01 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <383bsd$3ud@news.tuwien.ac.at> If anyone has got a .xmodemaprc for coXist, INTEL, german keyboard, please email it to me! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mag.rer.nat. D.I. Bernhard J. MAYR Institut f. Nachrichtentechnik u. Hochfrequenztechnik, TU-WIEN mail: bmayr@email.tuwien.ac.at; tel: 58801/3513 ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chunking files... Date: 19 Oct 1994 17:32:37 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <383l7l$s6d@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <37u483$f3c@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ) Can't you just drag the files to a single floppy and let WM handle ) it all automatically? As I remember it pops up the processes panel ) and asks if you want it to chunk your files for you. It sounds like ) that would do what you want - this has the added advantage of ) automatic re-concatenation of the files when they are extracted from ) the floppied. Yes, but the size of the file you can unchunk is limited by your amount of swap space available. If you want to unchunk a 5M file, you need to have at least 20M of swap available or your machine will run out of swap and die. I had to unchunk a 70M file for a friend once. I had 230M of swap available and it wasn't enough, so as a rule of thumb be sure you have at least 4X the size of the chunked file available for swap. Otherwise you will have to unchunk it by hand anyway. Note that the unchunking _all_ takes place in VM with memory streams--no temp files--and things don't get freed until the _whole_ file is written out to disk. And I'd recommend a factor of 5 or 6X just to be safe. Moral: Don't chunk large files or you'll be sorry! It just won't work! (TM) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X on Next ? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:26:05 -0400 Organization: Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0idJOh600aw=BkZ1oF@andrew.cmu.edu> Assuming this is the appropriate bboard for this question, is there a public domain X Windows emulator available for the Next? Replies welcome at rstouffs+@cmu.edu. Thanks, -Rudi \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ Rudi Stouffs Department of Architecture Carnegie Mellon University [rstouffs+@cmu.edu] _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: how to find a line by line # with Edit Date: 19 Oct 1994 18:09:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> AS the subject says, I could not find a way to locate a line by using the line number. I can do so in vi. This is useful because, compilers and latex gives a line number where there is an error. Any help is appreciated. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105 Fax: 714-856-8585
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Gator FTP Message-ID: <CxxM1r.6rJ@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 18:01:03 GMT Can anyone point me to the site where GatorFTP1.7 is sitting? I lost my old copy, and 1.6 is the most recent that I can find. thanx in advance jay ************************************ Jason Bright Ingenia Communications ************************************
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NeXTTime and it's future Date: 19 Oct 1994 17:52:26 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <383mcq$548@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <AidGjC_00iVDE2PQdi@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <AidGjC_00iVDE2PQdi@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Oct-94 [Q] NeXTTime and > it's future by David Jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc > > Is NeXTTime going to ship with 3.3? How about 4.0? What is the current > > price for the NeXTTime CD-ROM? Anyone selling one used? > > I believe NeXTTime is and will continue to be a seperate product from > NEXTSTEP. 1-800-TRY-NEXT will sell it to yuo for around $90 or so. I hope that the runtime libraries will be available in the base OS - once I can write NeXTtime apps, I want to be able to deploy them without forcing the end user to also buy NeXTtime. In fact, considering OS/2 will be including video stuff, Windows 95 will be including video stuff, and the Mac has included video stuff for quite a while now, I feel that NeXTstep should also include video stuff. I'm not requesting that NeXT provide video editing capabilities, fancy fades, titling effects, etc., just that they provide the libraries and a small app (like the current NEXTIME app) for playing video files, so that anyone can view the stuff, mail video clips around, etc. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how to find a line by line # with Edit Date: 19 Oct 1994 19:44:15 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <383suf$kgg@digdug.pencom.com> References: <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> In article <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: :AS the subject says, I could not find a way to locate a line by :using the line number. I can do so in vi. This is useful because, :compilers and latex gives a line number where there is an error. : :Any help is appreciated. COMMAND-l (the letter 'l') will pop a panel that allows you to find a specific line in the text. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Some questions about Fonts ... Date: 19 Oct 1994 17:34:20 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <383las$caq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.advocacy ] [ Author was u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw ] [ Posted on 19 Oct 1994 17:31:33 GMT ] 1. How to use System Font with TeX? 2. How to use Bitmap font, like NeXT now, in DPS ( You know, the default font in NeXT is bitmap font ... ) Thanks, Mark
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Losing apps ... need replacements! Date: 19 Oct 1994 20:08:05 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <383ub5$f9i@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <381ib5$dto@anshar.shadow.net> In article <381ib5$dto@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > AFS WriteUp is a capable word processor, but if you need a more advanced > app, Xanthus OpenWrite should be available in a month or so. Lighthouse > Design is readying Questor, which looks to be everything Improv was and > more. While FrameMaker has made the transition to Intel, the cost is > prohibitive. Alternatives are AFS PasteUp and Pages Software Pages 1.5. > > - Jay > NeXTmail...Yes! Thanks to all for your replies. I think the Lighthouse product is Quantrix and is supposed to be Improv-like. Questor is from Xanthus and is a traditional spreadsheet similar to ParaSheet (another product of Lighthouse). I spoke with Janet from Lighthouse and she said that ParaSheet will be available in a couple of weeks and Quantrix by the end of the year. -- ..Mike.
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NeXTTime and it's future Date: 19 Oct 1994 21:15:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <3842a3$cd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <383mcq$548@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <383mcq$548@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) writes: > In article <AidGjC_00iVDE2PQdi@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger > <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Oct-94 [Q] NeXTTime and > > it's future by David Jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc > > > Is NeXTTime going to ship with 3.3? How about 4.0? What is the current > > > price for the NeXTTime CD-ROM? Anyone selling one used? > > > > I believe NeXTTime is and will continue to be a seperate product from > > NEXTSTEP. 1-800-TRY-NEXT will sell it to yuo for around $90 or so. > > I hope that the runtime libraries will be available in the base OS - > once I can write NeXTtime apps, I want to be able to deploy them > without forcing the end user to also buy NeXTtime. > > In fact, considering OS/2 will be including video stuff, Windows 95 > will be including video stuff, and the Mac has included video stuff > for quite a while now, I feel that NeXTstep should also include > video stuff. I'm not requesting that NeXT provide video editing > capabilities, fancy fades, titling effects, etc., just that they > provide the libraries and a small app (like the current NEXTIME app) > for playing video files, so that anyone can view the stuff, mail > video clips around, etc. All the information i have suggests that 1) NEXTIME 2.0 will be avilable concurrently with NS 4.0, but will be a separate product; 2) NEXTIME 2.0 will allow developers to construct video-editing apps, videomail, etc 3) Its modular nature could lend itself to a bundling of base functionality within NS in the future; There's a very detailed article by Sean Lamont on NEXTIME's technicals in NEXT IN LINE #2. (Note: I write for NEXT IN LINE, but i think it's still a great article!) -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NeXTTime and it's future Date: 19 Oct 1994 17:25:24 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3842s4$juc@anshar.shadow.net> References: <383mcq$548@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <3842a3$cd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Steve Weintz (indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : All the information i have suggests that : 1) NEXTIME 2.0 will be avilable concurrently with NS 4.0, but will be a separate : product; : 2) NEXTIME 2.0 will allow developers to construct video-editing apps, videomail, etc So will I have to wait a year before I can create and edit videos under NeXTSTEP? Also, will NeXTIME 2.0 support Video for Windows, Indeo, MPEG, QuickTime 2.x, etc. - Jay - Advocating OpenStep, not NeXTSTEP NeXTmail...Yes! (Incoming Only)
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how to find a line by line # with Edit (Thanks) Date: 19 Oct 1994 21:13:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <384253$brh@news.service.uci.edu> References: <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> In article <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > AS the subject says, I could not find a way to locate a line by > using the line number. I can do so in vi. This is useful because, > -- > Feng Liu Thanks to everyone who replied. To those who have the same question, the answer is 1. Turn on Developer's mode 2. Cmd-l (command-lowercase L). -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105 Fax: 714-856-8585
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE: GatorFTP 1.7 location Date: 19 Oct 1994 21:20:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3842j2$c05@news.service.uci.edu> According to my record: ftp://uhoop.egr.uh.edu/pub/misc/GatorFTP/GatorFTP_NS3.0_1.7.app.tar.Z ftp://uhoop.egr.uh.edu/pub/misc/GatorFTP/GatorFTP_MAB_1.7.app.tar.Z -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105 Fax: 714-856-8585
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical SLIP Software Date: 19 Oct 1994 19:26:04 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3849uc$nbk@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37v1iv$b22@anshar.shadow.net> The product I was referring to in my post would have been Marble Teleconnect 2.0. Marble was in midst of developing the all-new ver 2.0 when it dropped NeXTSTEP entirely. I've spoken to a number of people at Marble, and they'd like to see another ISV pick up Teleconnect. I've been hoping to interest an ISV in rescuing this app. From the number of responses I've received to my post, it's obvious there's still a need for this product. - Jay - Advocating OpenStep, not NeXTSTEP NeXTmail...Yes! (Incoming Only)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) Subject: Re: Asian languages in NeXTSTEP In-Reply-To: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu's message of 17 Oct 1994 01:35:08 GMT Message-ID: <KEN.94Oct18145506@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp> Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System) Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology References: <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> <37skcc$e8n@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 05:55:06 GMT In article <37skcc$e8n@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes: In article <941016183141.271AACUP.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: >> > Does anyone know of a localized NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Chinese, Japanese, or >> > Korean. If not localized, is there any plug-in softwares which will >> > enable you to work in these languages? >> > >> There is a full Japanese version of NEXTSTEP, 3.2J, available from Canon Japan >> and various others. It's expensive, though, and I'm not sure how you order it It's not that expensive anymore. Back then with only black hardware, $2500 for NS sounds outrageous. But today w/ NS retail at around $2500 , it's not that much expensive. (But you have to buy from Canon in Japan) Actually, buy the user edition and buy the English developer may be a better deal for edu user. Greetings from the evil empire :-) Canon sells NS-j/I and NS-j/moto. To be fair, I think their pricing is not much more than the US NS/I retail price, around $3k, last time I asked. However, the price they charge for NS-j/moto is ridiculous. People who already have licence to run NS have to pay $3k to run NS-j. They call this an "upgrade" (yeah, right.) Another obvious difference is that there is NO edu discount. Furthermore, there have been NO great deals --- remember the NeXT developer special for $300! ? After the introduction of NS/I, in the US, there were always deals of some kind for a year or two, certainly not in Japan. One important thing I think they should do is to sell Japanese upgrade bundles for a reasonable price, say few hundred bucks. and do this worldwide. They did put in some work, and also, there are additional licences such as font licencing so that's reasonable. I wrote and called them about stuff like this and others a number of times all over a year ago, but of course, had no effect. As for me, I have an NSTC (well, that's NeXT Station Turbo Color for NS newcomers) and it runs NS3.2. No J. To do Japanese word processing at home, I take Linux on a 486dx50 notebook from work ;-) X environment makes you appreciate NS environment a lot. However, it's free and I think it's actually very well organized, including the Japanese environment. For users with intel machines, if you really need to do Japanese word processing, I recommend Linux. (JE package). It's free and it works. Has jtex, xdvi, dviprt, mule, wnn and other stuff you need. It installs fairly smoothly. Also, it's about as stable as any other Unix system. Well, that's it for now. Personally, I hope to see NeXTJapan, or NeXTAsia sometime in the future. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@th.phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN $B@DLZ7r0lO:!$El5~9)6HBg3XM}3XItJ*M}3X2J!$")(B152 $BEl5~ETL\9u6hBg2,;3(B
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Benchmarking software for NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <jpanicoCxx9oB.4uK@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:33:47 GMT Hi, I'm looking for software that can be used to measure the speed of NS 3.2 on various intel platforms. Preferably the app would provide separate indices for Integer, floating point, disk access, 2-D draws, and some "real world"-like aggregate of all of these. Anything in the archives? Any information appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gator FTP Date: 20 Oct 1994 04:22:01 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <384r99$po7@news.onramp.net> References: <CxxM1r.6rJ@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CxxM1r.6rJ@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) writes: > Can anyone point me to the site where GatorFTP1.7 is sitting? I lost my > old copy, and 1.6 is the most recent that I can find. look on uhoop.egr.uh.edu -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP Date: 20 Oct 1994 01:22:30 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410200357.AA05452@mnp.next.com> Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: > Would even a thread safe AppKit be necessary? Look at X on > Solaris. I can run 2 X programs and a calculational job > in the background and the X server. I don't think that > Xlib is threaded or even needs to be. (local data is > for each process--you link Xlib with the program, > not the shared server). > > Multiprocessing is still nice, as long as there are multiple > processes that could be run at once, right? Thanks, Matt. A thread-safe AppKit certainly isn't necessary (or even desirable, for performance reasons) to take advantage of a multiprocessor environment. The operation of a GUI application always involves at least two threads, one in the app, and one in the display system (shared among many apps). A simple app that didn't do much other than generate lots of PostScript (Xox, for example) would perform much better on a 2 processor system than on a uniprocessor (for a given CPU). Given the large number of Unix processes and multithreaded tasks that run in a networked NEXTSTEP environment, a SMP environment will provide a definite performance kick for NEXTSTEP. Sort of obvious, I know, but I thought folks on USENET could use some reassurance that the engineers at NeXT are aware of this. When NEXTSTEP is targeted for an architecture that includes a well-defined fully implemented SMP extension with significant market penetration (see SPARC), I'd bet NEXTSTEP will support the SMP extension on that platform. (see also NEXTSTEP for SPARC press releases) As I mentioned before, this hasn't happened yet in the Intel marketplace. I really hope things settle out soon, and we see a single clean, fully implemented SMP standard emerge for the Intel platforms. Mike Paquette ===== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Pardon the weird posting paths. My normal provider is low on inodes.
From: joshua@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Poh Onn Joshua Fan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to create a disk recognise by NeXTStep Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:01:12 +1000 Organization: University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia. Message-ID: <385138$46o@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Can anyone help me with this problem on how to create a disk which is possible to be recognised by NextStep Installation Program. I have recently purchased a copy of NextStep 3.2 on CD. My machine is an IBM compatible 486/DX33 with 16M of RAM, a 540M HD, a NEC 3X CD-ROM with Adaptec AIC-6360 SCSI controller and a 1.44FDD. I have tried to install NextStep 3.2, but the installation program could not recognise my CD-ROM SCSI controller. I then downloaded a copy of the new AIC-6x60 driver from NeXTanswers and copied the driver onto a DOS formatted disk (I have no access to any NeXT system and have to use DOS). I went through the installation program again, but the installation could not recognise the DOS file system, and consequently could not load the CD-ROM SCSI driver. I am very much appreciated, if anyone can enlighten me with the way to solve this installation problem. Thank you! Cheers, Joshua
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3d animation/image rendering Date: 20 Oct 1994 07:54:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I'm looking for comments on any 3d object/scene creation software for NeXT which is available. I'm specifically looking for comments from people who have worked with SoftImage or WaveFront and can provide usability comparisons. -- David Jeske(N9LCA) <A HREF="http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~jeske/"> jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted) CompEng Student/NeXT Programmer/Linux User Gtalk - online at (708)998-0008 </A>
From: teeleh@xs4all.nl (teeleh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to reach Talus Date: 20 Oct 1994 08:37:44 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <385a8o$qi3@news.xs4all.nl> Keywords: Talus NCR Could somenody post the eMail or voice/fax number of Talus Inc. so I can get in touch for some PCI SCSI drivers using the NCR 53C810 chipset. Any other recommendations on this PCI SCSI board ? :
From: Jolly alias Patrick Stein Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gator FTP ( vs. YFtp ) Date: 20 Oct 1994 08:18:48 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Distribution: usa Message-ID: <385958$icd@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <384r99$po7@news.onramp.net> Keywords: YFtp In article <384r99$po7@news.onramp.net> apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) writes: > In article <CxxM1r.6rJ@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca > (Jason Bright) writes: > > Can anyone point me to the site where GatorFTP1.7 is sitting? > > look on uhoop.egr.uh.edu Give YFtp a try. It's on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/Apps/YFtp.???.NIH.bs.tar.gz --- bye bye - jolly =================================================================== Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de office : USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 211 06 70 fax : USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 211 06 74 private: USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 950 57 34 =================================================================== " And it's true we are immune, When fact is fiction and T.V. is reality, And today the millions cry, We eat and drink while tomorrow they die. " u2 ===================================================================
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.2 questions Date: 20 Oct 1994 08:33:15 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <385a0b$2ov@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Keywords: 3.2 Hello, I've got some questions on NS3.2 for black hardware. Sorry for the non-actual questions, but I never found a FAQ on this theme and my former dealer isn't of much help. (1) Is there a FAQ for NS3.2? (2) Is NS3.2 compatible down to NS3.0 (I mean, will progs compiled under NS3.0 still run under NS3.2 (not the other way round ;-) ))? Will Mathematica 2.0.2 and the programms f2c, p2c compiled successfully under NS3.0 still work correctly under NS3.2? (3) Are NextAdmin, NextApps, NextDeveloper and NextLibrary (especially IB, PB, TeX, Webster, Quotations and Shakespeare) contained in NS3.2 with the same functionality as under NS3.0? Does the upgrade contain the complette software (that means: can I format my harddisk and install 3.2 directly from cd-rom), or does it contain only the changed parts of the OS? (4) What does an upgrade from NS3.0 to NS3.2 cost; is there a special price for universities or students? Thanx for any information -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ "...and I see your schwartz =====\_/======= is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail welcome ;-))
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Playscore cannot open DSP? Date: 20 Oct 1994 08:35:05 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <385a3p$2p8@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Keywords: playscore, dsp Hi there I've got a problem running playscore from MusicKit4.0 on my NeXTstation under NS3.0. There are only two Apps active (WM and Terminal). dsptest and dspbeep are running well, but if I want to play a score-file the following happens: # playscore Allegro playscore reading Allegro... ..done Can't open DSP. # Why can't playscore open the DSP and is there a solution? Thanx for any answer -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ "...and I see your schwartz =====\_/======= is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail welcome ;-))
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Stat software wanted Keywords: SPSS-X Message-ID: <3006@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 20 Oct 94 08:48:46 GMT Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). [I know this has come up before, but then I thought I did not need the info] My wife will have to do some data analysis of her research project in psychology. Her supervisor proposes to use SPSS-X under TSO on the local dinosaur, but she'd prefer to use our slab (and not with /usr/ucb/tn3270). Is there any reasonable-priced software comparable to SPSS-X available? I guess I should list the half-dozen functions she will actually use, but these are not clear to me yet. Thanks a lot, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <Cxy4E7.9GC@aeon.in-berlin.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Cities in Dust References: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> <Cxro37.Dy@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 00:37:19 GMT Manfred R hr (manroe@toppoint.de) wrote: > Wann kommt eigentlich 3.5? NT 3.5? Keine Ahnung. :-) Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
From: un7j@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstep special offer?!? Date: 20 Oct 1994 11:28:49 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <385k9h$lrd@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: NeXTstep, Update, Student Edition Hello out there! Maybe anyone can help me out with the following: I would like to buy NeXTstep (Student Edition). However, since NeXTstep 3.3 is around the corner and Student Editions cannot be updated, I do not want to buy the old version now...Except if there is the possibility that NeXT allows you to upgrade any NeXTstep that is purchased *after* 01.11.94...? Any chance with that??? Thank you! CU -JF- -- Hans-Joerg Fischer +++ eMail un7j@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Subject: Re: Losing apps ... need replacements! Message-ID: <Cxxzsn.8D0@pages.com> Keywords: Pages, word processing Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 22:57:58 GMT In article <3817ja$8cd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: > [snip] > > But now that I am finally making the move from Black to White I am caught > of guard. Are there any suitable/comparable replacements for WriteNow, > Improv, Framemaker? I would also like to know if the replacement apps can > import their native files. I use WriteNow and Improv all the time and am > greatly dissapointed to see no way of running it on white. These two apps > are extremely useful IMO, and I would have paid money for it if I had to > (and still would for an upgrade if I could). As for Framemaker, the > upgrade is insanely expensive and would like to try something else. > Mike, While this may not be the most objective response, (I am an engineer at Pages Software Inc) I hope you will consider Pages by Pages for your word processing needs. We import WriteNow documents (as well as other formats) which will hopefully help you in your transition to your new hardware. We just released the new version (there was an official submission to comp.sys.next.announce a few weeks back) which has a number of new features including a revamped interface, along with mail merge, emacs keybindings, support for custom tab styles, better font support, etc. We've also included a new design model, "Correspondence", which is specifically tailored towards producing professional looking office documents. If I get requests, I can repost the announcement or anyone can just e-mail me for a copy. Also, for anyone who has NeXT mail, I can send them a postscript version of our newsletter (completely laid out in Pages of course). The early responses we are getting back from customers of v1.5 is that they really love the product. If anyone wants a demo copy, let me know and I'll forward on your request to marketing. For netiquette reasons, I can't state the price of the demo version, but it is nominal. Greg Kostello Pages Software Inc Software Engineer greg@pages.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to reach Talus Date: 20 Oct 1994 11:25:48 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38625s$ghp@anshar.shadow.net> References: <385a8o$qi3@news.xs4all.nl> teeleh (teeleh@xs4all.nl) wrote: : Could somenody post the eMail or voice/fax number of Talus Inc. so : I can get in touch for some PCI SCSI drivers using the NCR 53C810 : chipset. Any other recommendations on this PCI SCSI board ? : : email info@talus.com (slow response right now) Phone 713-578-1434 - Jay - Advocating OpenStep, not NeXTSTEP NeXTmail...Yes! (Incoming Only)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Stat software wanted Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:15:31 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <386533$dj8@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3006@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> In article <3006@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > Is there any reasonable-priced software comparable to SPSS-X available? > I guess I should list the half-dozen functions she will actually use, but > these are not clear to me yet. A lot of this information is outdated, but it should get you started: This is a summary of information about statistics packages for the NeXT computer. Send corrections, addition, etc. to Hal.Varian@umich.edu and I will update. Commercial ---------- S -- ATT Software. This is the New S. Doesn't have interactive graphics; just dumps to PostScript files and read with Preview. At one time cost was $800 for source code, $10 per cpu license fee, but they seem to change their policy every week or so. S-plus -- requires X windows. Contact mktg@statsci.com 206-283-8802. StatSci is doing the port to NeXTStep which seems to be on hold at the moment. Send e-mail to Gene Mallet <gene@statsci.com> for details. SAS -- Cost about the same as PC version. Works well, but does not conform to NeXTstep user interface. Shazam -- Uses gnuplot for graphics. Contact Kenneth White, <ken@unixg.ubc.ca>, for details. Price is about $400, site licenses available. SST -- runs on NeXT, no graphics. Contact jad@lear.caltech.edu, for details. Price is about $800, site licenses available. TSP -- Contact 415-326-1927. Free ----- HippoDraw -- a histogram + simple statistics package running under NeXTstep. Available via the usual archives. |STAT -- a collection of Unix filters for statistics. Available via anonymous ftp in pub/stat at ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu (128.146.8.52) This is free software, but he doesn't want it distributed on bulletin boards, etc. ftp the crypted version and send email to Gary Perlman <perlman@cis.ohio-state.edu> to get the password. Or download the compiled files from sonata.cc.purdue.edu. xlispstat -- Object oriented statistics package. Very impressive. Anonymous ftp source code and documentation from umnstat.stat.umn.edu. Can be compiled for "generic unix" or for X windows. Generic unix. This way you have all the computational tools, but only minimal graphics capability. In order to compile this version, change the GRAPHSYS flag from X11WINDOWS to GNUPLOT in the Makefile. In the generic version, xlispstat produces Tektronics output for a few simple types of plots. You can cut and paste this output into a file and run it through ps4014 to view the output on the NeXT. To do this, use the ps4014 emulator in the extended distribution: ps4014 -R -S 7 < infile.tek > outfile.ps The resulting ps file can be viewed using Preview. You can also run it through Darcy Brockbank's program ps2eps and produce an eps file that can inserted into documents, etc. X Windows. This gives you access to the many graphics tools, including spinplots, scatterplots, histograms, box plots, etc. Make the following changes to the modifiable part of the Makefile will compile xlispstat using co-Xist libraries for X Windows. It assumes that you have installed co-Xist and xlispstat in the default location. I'm told that it also compiles with mouseX, but haven't checked this myself. ------------------------------cut here---------------------------------- #Makefile for xlispstat #Minor modifications by Hal Varian (HRV) for NeXT
# Directories # XLISPLIB is where the xlisp executable, the .lsp files to be loaded on # startup and the examples are to be kept. # BINDIR is where the xlispstat shell script is to be put. # # NOTE: if XLISPLIB is not empty it MUST end with a / XLISPLIB=/usr/local/lib/xlispstat/ BINDIR=/usr/local/bin
############################################################################## # HRV: Graphics system. Uncomment one of the following choices: # HRV: use GNUPLOT if you don't have Xwindows #GRAPHSYS = GNUPLOT #GRAPHSYS = SUNVIEW GRAPHSYS = X11WINDOWS
############################################################################## # Sun Operating System Version. Only used for SUNVIEW graphics system. # Use SUN3X for sun OS 3.X and SUN4X for sun OS 4.X under SunView; #SUNOS = SUN3X #SUNOS = SUN4X
############################################################################## # User Compiler Flags # Add a -I directive if the X11 include files are not in a standard place # For Sun's OpenLook, for example, add -I/usr/openwin/include #UCFLAGS = -O -f68881 #ULDFLAGS = -f68881 #HRV: eliminate 68881 option; add= -D flag to avoid link conflict UCFLAGS = -O -v -Draise=rraise ULDFLAGS = CC=cc LD=ld
############################################################################## # Foreign function call flag. If this flag is defined you should also # define a machine chosen from one of the directories in the machines # directory. Look at the README file in the machine directory for your # machine - you may have to add some additional compiler or ld flags # to make dynamic loading work. # # If you do not want to use foreign function calling define the machine # as `generic' #FOREIGN_FLAG = -DFOREIGNCALL #MACHINE = sun3 #HRV: use generic machine MACHINE = generic
############################################################################## # Additional libraries and files to load at compile time EXTRALIBS= EXTRAOBJS=
############################################################################## # Directory to search for X11 libraries (libX11.a, etc.) #HRV: this is where co-Xist puts the X11 libraries X11LIBDIR=/usr/include/X11
############################################################################### ### ### ### DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ### ### ### ############################################################################### ############################################################################### [rest of makefile is the same] --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: rtf2LaTeX and NeXT's RTF files ? Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:50:39 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <38674v$q2b@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> When I try to run rtf2LaTeX on NeXT's online documentation to print some parts on a cheap 180dpi laser printer that supports only TeX (for me ;-), I end up with messages about too much tab stops. Has anybody had any success with rtf2LaTeX and NEXTSTEP RTF's ? rtf2LaTeX is based on Paul Dubois's RTF reader (ver 1.06a3), so it should understand NeXT's RTF, not ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Distribution: world Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CREATE-A-BASE From: mark.patterson@pcohio.com (Mark Patterson) Message-ID: <24.9562.2540@pcohio.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 09:51:00 -0500 Organization: PC-OHIO PCBOARD - Cleveland, OH - 216-381-3320 CREATE-A-BASE is a database program designed to be totally user friendly The first truly relational database design program that is suited for small to large businesses that need to maintain records of accounts, customers, mailing lists, inventory items, manufacturing records, personnel records, etc. Context sensitive HELP throughout the program allows even the least experienced user to get the results that they want LETTER WRITER, LABEL MAKER, and REPORT WRITER capabilities and much more Introductory Offer FREE for the first 100,000 callers Shipping and handling charges apply $9.95 VISA and Mastercard accepted For Your FREE Copy Call Today !!!! Dealer inquiries welcomed Kiss Products Div. George Samuel's Inc. Suite IIA-4 8228 Mayfield Road Chesterland, Oh. 44026 216-729-0872 Fax 216-729-0873
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to make view image with PINE? Date: 20 Oct 1994 17:10:49 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <3868ap$q3m@news.iastate.edu> Anyone knows how to view image with PINE? I have OmniImage.app, but don't know how to config PINE to use it. Please help. Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: How do I get CHINESE MS Windows to work under Soft-PC? Organization: Madge Networks Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 14:29:39 GMT Message-ID: <CxxC9G.5C3@madge1.demon.co.uk> With great difficulty (-: Assuming you are talking about the Intel port, Insignia took the Windows source code, and modified it to co-operate with NEXTSTEP. Hence you can't just a different version of Windows and run it - it'll crash horribly. However it is generally possible to get a foreign language version to run by copying across the changed executables from the version that comes with SoftPC. Unfortunately I'm not sure exactly which files have changed! If you have a support contract with Insignia, they'll probably tell you. As I remember, contact information for Insignia is in the on-line documentation for SoftPC.
From: nicholr@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 20 Oct 1994 13:54:02 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <NICHOLR.94Oct20145402@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com> Is anybody running the newly released Perl 5.0 under NeXTSTEP 3.2? Do things like Dynamic loading work?
From: jantzen@ccmitpa.univ-lyon1.fr (Eric Jantzen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X server for NeXTStep 2.2 !!!! Date: 20 Oct 1994 23:20:14 GMT Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon Message-ID: <386tve$bjf@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Hello, I search the binary of a X server for a NeXTstation TurboColor with NeXTStep 2.2 thank s -- ----------------------------------------------------- Eric Jantzen | jantzen@ccmi.univ-lyon1.fr U.C.B.L. | France | -----------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: how to find a line by line # with Edit Message-ID: <CxzDqG.5zw@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 16:56:40 GMT In article <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: |AS the subject says, I could not find a way to locate a line by |using the line number. I can do so in vi. This is useful because, |compilers and latex gives a line number where there is an error. If you have the enhanced version of open, you can also direct Edit.app to open with the line number containing an error selected and highlighted. Here's an example from a script I use for SAS: .. grep -n '^ERROR:' ${SASFILE}.log > /tmp/mysas.tmp if ($status == 0) then set linenum = `head -1 /tmp/mysas.tmp | awk 'BEGIN {FS=":"}{print $1}'` echo "SAS error at line" $linenum Edit ${SASFILE}.sas Edit +$linenum ${SASFILE}.log exit -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: When is an app not an app? Message-ID: <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:09:06 GMT I have a copy of ScoreAndSound.app in a subdirectory of /LocalApps. When I am logged in as root, it registers as an app, displays its app icon, and causes .score files to display as document icons for Score and Sound. However, when I am logged in as my normal userid, ScoreAndSound appears as a normal directory icon, and does not register the .score files. It has all +x permissions, so that's not the problem, and I am the owner: hotspur:teaching [129] % ls -l /LocalApps/MultiMedia total 4 ... drwxr-xr-x 3 friendly 1024 Apr 12 1993 ScoreAndSound.app/ Hence, my question: what makes an app an app? I have noticed that on occasions where I renamed an app to make way for a newer version, its icon sometimes changed to a folder, but I don't understand why. And, how can I reverse the process so I can use ScoreAndSound again? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 21 Oct 1994 01:48:42 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3876lq$qk8@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <NICHOLR.94Oct20145402@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com> Nicholr@gb.swissbank.com,robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk wrote... >Is anybody running the newly released Perl 5.0 under NeXTSTEP 3.2? > >Do things like Dynamic loading work? I just downloaded and built Perl 5 under NS3.2. Worked like a charm. Even has a configuration for NS3.2 already set up, so all you have to do is accept the defaults and it'll chug along nicely. As for Dynamic Loading... Well, the configuration/build process claims to have built and installed the dynamically loaded features. I didn't run the test suite or anything to make sure it works, but nothing complained about anything while it was being put together. All in all, a nice, seamless installation. Seems to work just fine on my existing scripts. Congrats and thanks to Larry Wall for another job well done! (Until we all start to find the bugs, that is :-) Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | Roads? Where we're going, we don't need... roads! | | ________ | | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Dr. Emmett Brown, "Back to the Future" |
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Evil gremlins struck Whois.app "mini example" Date: 21 Oct 1994 06:07:30 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <387lr2$h81@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <38366g$ruj@nic-nac.CSU.net> Ah, the joys of code reuse. It seems a known bad version of my command-line whois got out (which no one noticed!), and I "innocently" incorporated defective code in the GUI version. (So only the 2.1 executable works--and only when run under NS 2.x.) Sorry about that. I'll fix the FTPable copies ASAP. This context diff is for Whois-1.0 only. *** Controller.m.orig Wed Oct 19 04:03:46 1994 --- Controller.m *************** *** 237,243 **** char buf[256]; pos=0; ! if (sscanf(n, "%d%n", &port, &pos)==1&&pos==0&&(unsigned)port<=65535) { if (port==0) [t setText:"bad port\n"]; return port; } --- 237,244 ---- char buf[256]; pos=0; ! if (sscanf(n, "%d%n", &port, &pos)==1&&(pos==0||n[pos]=='\0')&& ! (unsigned)port<=65535) { if (port==0) [t setText:"bad port\n"]; return port; } *************** *** 246,252 **** [t setText:buf]; return 0; } ! return(ntohl(se->s_port)); } static inline void append(Text *out, const char *buf) --- 247,253 ---- [t setText:buf]; return 0; } ! return(ntohs(se->s_port)); } static inline void append(Text *out, const char *buf) -=EPS=-
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Color NS/i Icons Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 03:52:58 -0400 Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <widrBOq00WB_NRx0oo@andrew.cmu.edu> Does anyone know where some color icons can be found for NS/i that will work in Workspace? Any convertible (i.e. X -> NeXT) are also fine. I'd prefer the kind that have two images (one for open and one for closed) but any would do at this point. Thanks a lot. -Leo +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |>> Leo Turetsky <<|>> leo@uni.pc.cc.cmu.edu (NeXTMail Welcome) <<| | Carnegie-Mellon U. | Leo, your Mom called while you were in Ohio. | |-------------------esp---------------------------------------------| | "Did you get your 100% USRDA of vitamins A C L M R and T today?" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 21 Oct 1994 07:59:59 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct21085959@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <NICHOLR.94Oct20145402@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com> <3876lq$qk8@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) In-reply-to: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 21 Oct 1994 01:48:42 GMT <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes: >Nicholr@gb.swissbank.com,robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk wrote... >>Is anybody running the newly released Perl 5.0 under NeXTSTEP 3.2? >> >>Do things like Dynamic loading work? >I just downloaded and built Perl 5 under NS3.2. Worked like a charm. >Even has a configuration for NS3.2 already set up, so all you have to >do is accept the defaults and it'll chug along nicely. Yes that would seem so. >As for Dynamic Loading... Well, the configuration/build process >claims to have built and installed the dynamically loaded features. I >didn't run the test suite or anything to make sure it works, but >nothing complained about anything while it was being put together. The postscript docs and the manpage indicate that the Dynamic loading will work under NeXTSTEP. >All in all, a nice, seamless installation. Seems to work just fine on >my existing scripts. Congrats and thanks to Larry Wall for another >job well done! (Until we all start to find the bugs, that is :-) Here's one that will give you problems :-) (mail2news) !/usr/local/bin/perl ($program = $0) =~ s%.*/%%; ( $version ) = $] =~ /(\d+\.\d+).*\nPatch level/; die "$program: requires at least version 3 of perl\n" if $version < 3; >Joe >-- >| NeXTMail OK! | Roads? Where we're going, we don't need... roads! | >| ________ | | >| | |__) | ======================================================== | >| (_|OE| \EISS | - Dr. Emmett Brown, "Back to the Future" | -- "When you try them you _know_ why they're there.More security, more freshness." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: How to reach Talus Message-ID: <1994Oct21.122047.21617@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <385a8o$qi3@news.xs4all.nl> <38625s$ghp@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 12:20:47 GMT In article <38625s$ghp@anshar.shadow.net>, Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: >teeleh (teeleh@xs4all.nl) wrote: >: Could somenody post the eMail or voice/fax number of Talus Inc. so >: I can get in touch for some PCI SCSI drivers using the NCR 53C810 >: chipset. Any other recommendations on this PCI SCSI board ? >: : > >email info@talus.com (slow response right now) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am not sure how much it is affecting them, but those guys are in Huston you know. -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Fiend.app! - 3fat dock extender extraordinaire ! Message-ID: <1994Oct19.195456.1001@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <9410190746.AA15451@alleg.EDU> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 19:54:56 GMT Tim Luoma writes > David C. Lambert has fulfilled a wish. Actually several. > > A dock extender with different levels, which uses BackSpace, hides > icons that it launches (if desired), will auto-launch applications, > recognizes when applications quit.... much much more... I can't eevn > begin to explain it! Yes -- an extremely useful and unobtrusive dock and shelf extender. I've been using it for about 6 months and am delighted by it. -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: koteeswa@park (Revathi Koteeswaran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble with stuff pulled off the net Date: 21 Oct 1994 16:30:50 GMT Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Message-ID: <388qbq$sjt@steele.ohsu.edu> I recently pulled some C code from an anonymous ftp site. The stuff works great on the sun and hp735 and hp 750. When I run it on my NeXT system the math gets totally screwed up and the results are way off the mark (and I mean way off). The math lib I am using is libm.a. There are no bit shifting or byte swapping involved. The sizes of the various datatypes match perfectly. I would think that this question has been asked before...can anyone tell me whats going on? thanx, revathi koteeswa@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: how to find a line by line # with Edit Message-ID: <Cxz5EC.J5@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 13:56:35 GMT In article <383ncp$5vk@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > AS the subject says, I could not find a way to locate a line by > using the line number. I can do so in vi. This is useful because, > compilers and latex gives a line number where there is an error. Try Command-l. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: tappd@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3d animation/image rendering Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:43:18 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <tappd.28.000DB92F@sam.neosoft.com> References: <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) writes: >I'm looking for comments on any 3d object/scene creation software for NeXT >which is available. Larry Gritz <gritz@seas.gwu.edu> has just released a package called "Blue Moon Rendering Tools" (BMRT), which is available as a NextStep binary, among other platforms. Here's the short version of access instructions, lifted from his news release on comp.sys.raytracing: +++ Begin quote The BMRT is available via anonymous FTP: FTP to ftp.gwu.edu login as "anonymous", use your email address as the password cd /pvt/gritz804/BMRT get the appropriate file for your architecture. Note: the cd command above must be typed all at once. If you look around the /pvt area, you will see no files. You need to type it in exactly as above. For more details, feel free to contact me: gritz@seas.gwu.edu Larry Gritz Dept. of EE & CS, George Washington University 801 22nd St. NW, Rm. T-624G Washington, DC 20052 +++ end quote Hope this helps. Regards, - Dan
From: tappd@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3d animation/image rendering - mea culpa Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:46:53 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <tappd.29.000DC878@sam.neosoft.com> References: <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <tappd.28.000DB92F@sam.neosoft.com> In article <tappd.28.000DB92F@sam.neosoft.com> tappd@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) writes: [ Snip ] >Here's the short version of access instructions, lifted from his news release >on comp.sys.raytracing: [ Snip ] Should've been "comp.graphics.raytracing". Sorry about that! - Dan
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep special offer?!? Date: 21 Oct 1994 19:40:45 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3895ft$ev5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <385k9h$lrd@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: NeXTstep, Update, Student Edition un7j@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) writes: >Hello out there! >Maybe anyone can help me out with the following: I would like to buy >NeXTstep (Student Edition). However, since NeXTstep 3.3 is around the >corner and Student Editions cannot be updated, I do not want to buy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What?! Who said that the academic bundle could not be updated? >the old version now...Except if there is the possibility that NeXT >allows you to upgrade any NeXTstep that is purchased *after* >01.11.94...? >Any chance with that??? >Thank you! >CU >-JF- >-- >Hans-Joerg Fischer +++ eMail un7j@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tappd@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Numeric analysis pkgs. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:49:48 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <tappd.30.000DD4EB@sam.neosoft.com> My employer needs to solve a 5000 x 5000 sparse matrix. We're looking at MatLab on the PC side...any good, reasonably-priced (under $2000) packages on NextStep? Regards, - Dan
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP and hardware configs Date: 21 Oct 1994 19:12:41 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <3893r9$spk@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Keywords: SLIP I'm getting ready to buy an Intel machine for NS, and hoping to run SLIP on it. But friends who have NS/FIP tell me that SLIP doesn't work reliably for them. Does successfully running SLIP impose any additional hardware requirements? Can you use the MUX driver if you have a serial mouse? Thanks in advance, David Finton
From: williams@cac.stratus.com Newsgroups: alt.irc.questions,comp.sys.next.software,alt.irc Subject: Question: Compiling ircii 2.6 client for NextStep on Intel Date: 21 Oct 1994 19:58:21 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: NextStep compile Hi I am trying to compile an ircii-2.6 client for NextStep on Intel release 3.2. I found I had to fix utsname.h and defs.h but I still am getting an error. Using the cc -bsd and LIBS -ltermcap options in the Makefile, I get an error from ld about the following undefined symbols: _getcwd _my_signal _uname The configurator had automagically set the -lposix option too but that created thousands of ld errors so I unset it. Does anyone know what to do to get this thing to compile? Any help would be appreciated. Eric -- ---- Eric Williams EMAIL: williams@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Inc. FAX : (508) 480-9368 Marlboro, Ma. 01752-1298 PHONE: (508) 460-2915 NeXT Mail Welcome...
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:30:31 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <3898d7$1k2@news.iastate.edu> References: <NICHOLR.94Oct20145402@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com> <3876lq$qk8@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Joseph W Reiss (jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : As for Dynamic Loading... Well, the configuration/build process : claims to have built and installed the dynamically loaded features. I : didn't run the test suite or anything to make sure it works, but : nothing complained about anything while it was being put together. I ran the test. Everything seems to be ok. Including the Dynamic loading test. -- Chris Wong Iowa State University Computer Science and Computer Engineering
From: dagole@altus.altus.no (Dag Ole Storrosten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP based image editing program for microscope Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:51:54 GMT Organization: UniNett Message-ID: <3899la$q9h@ratatosk.uninett.no> Keywords: image editing/pattern recognition program for microscopy Anyone happen to know about a NEXTSTEP based image/pattern-recognition system that is built to work with a microscope? Analyze images, downloaded from a microscope - searching for patterns. Any research project around? Any idea where to search? __________________________________ Dag Storrosten Oslo Research Park Gaustadalleen 21 N-0371 Oslo Norway NeXTMail welcome: dagole@altus.no _______________________________
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend.app! - 3fat dock extender extraordinaire ! Date: 21 Oct 1994 18:05:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <1994Oct19.195456.1001@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> This thread sounded made Fiend.App sound interesting, so I got a copy and put it on my NeXTStation color (stuck it in /LocalApps). The Fiend dock worked fine, but I couldn't get the Fiend shelf to work at all! I tried to drag files off of my regular (NeXT) shelf and onto the background. If I understand what I read the file icon should remain sitting on the background. Instead it snaps right back to the NeXT shelf. I tried cutting from the Fiend dock and pasting to the Fiend shelf. It asked me to click the mouse where I wanted the icon to go, so I clicked on some spot on the screen (tried lots of spots actually) but the curser just spun merrily away... Am I doing something wrong?
From: diaz@me.msu.edu (Alejandro Diaz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: LaserWriter Select 360 printing problem Date: 21 Oct 1994 22:33:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <389fjg$iq0@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: LaserWriter Select 360 printing problem I am having trouble printing with my brand new Apple LaserWriter Select 360 connected to a NeXTstation Turbo (NS 3.2). I think I have the communications working OK. The problem seems to be in the Postscript commands. Basically, printing of text via lpr or of Postcript files created by enscript works fine but printing from Next applications (Edit, Mma, ...) fails. I have added below more information on what I know so far. A would very much appreciate any help. Thanks in advance Alejandro (please respond to diaz@me.msu.edu) ____________________________________________________________________ 1. Printing plain text via lpr -PLaserWriter360 boring.txt works OK 2. Printing text via enscript via enscript -PLaserWriter360 boring.txt works OK 3. Printing the same text file using Edit fails. File is spooled correctly but it fails to print. The message "Due to a Postcript l;anguage error, some or all of the pages in your print request couldn't be printed" appears. 4. Printing files from other NeXT applications (Mail, Mathematica, Create, ImageViewer) also fails. Same message appears. 5. Printing Postcript files created in a Macintosh but printed in the NeXT via Preview succeeds. 6. All Postcript files created by the Next applications start with %!PS-Adobe-2.0 and use % NeXT Printing Package % Version: 3.1 (in file /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps) These are the files that *fail* to print. Files created by enscript or by the Mac begin with %!PS-Adobe-3.0 and do not use /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps. These are the files that print *successfully*. 7. The ppd files that came with the printer were put in the PrinterDescription directories and are being accessed OK by the Next Print Manager. 8. Printer NetInfo description was created with PrintManager. 9. Communication: via serial port at 38400 baud with hardware control. The cable is as described in the NeXT documentation. On the printer side, mode is Postcript and protocol is TBCP (?). Thanks for your help !! A. ____________________________________________________________________ Prof. Alejandro Diaz diaz@me.msu.edu Mechanical Engineering Michigan State University East Lansing MI 48824 USA
From: jreiss@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend.app! - 3fat dock extender extraordinaire ! Date: 22 Oct 1994 00:29:32 GMT Organization: In your dreams... Message-ID: <JREISS.94Oct21202932@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Oct19.195456.1001@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> In-reply-to: me@ienext.unl.edu's message of 21 Oct 1994 18:05:45 GMT In article <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: >The Fiend dock worked fine, but I couldn't get the Fiend shelf to work at >all! I tried to drag files off of my regular (NeXT) shelf and onto the >background. If I understand what I read the file icon should remain >sitting on the background. Instead it snaps right back to the NeXT shelf. First, let me express my own personal euphoria over Fiend. It's a great app that's found a place on my list of must-have utilities for NS. Now as to this problem, it almost sounds like you're running Background or Backspace or some other such program separately from Fiend. That app is installing its own desktop background, so Fiend's desktop isn't available to receive the icons you're dragging and pasting to it. You're getting the other background instead. Since the dock doesn't rely on the background window in any way, it works just fine. If you quit that other program that's installing a background window, Fiend should be quite happy. At least that's my guess. Hope it helps. Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | If I were human, I believe my response would be... | | ________ | "Go to hell." If I were human. | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Capt. Spock, "Star Trek VI" |
From: alcorn@cmn2.Stanford.EDU (Michael Alcorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sonata font? Date: 22 Oct 1994 02:50:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <389ul2$8d8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Can anyone tell me where I can get hold of the music font SONATA for use in NS software apps? Thanks Michael Alcorn
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend.app! - 3fat dock extender extraordinaire ! Date: 21 Oct 1994 23:54:42 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410220454.AA07889@alleg.EDU> The Fiend dock worked fine, but I couldn't get the Fiend shelf to work at all! I tried to drag files off of my regular (NeXT) shelf and onto the background. If I understand what I read the file icon should remain sitting on the background. Instead it snaps right back to the NeXT shelf. I understand from the author that there will be a new release within the near (specifically undefined) future. I have not had any trouble with getting the shelf to work as expected. Drag it off the WM File Viewer and (maybe this is it) wait for a little arrow (similar to the "link" arrow) to appear. I tried cutting from the Fiend dock and pasting to the Fiend shelf. It asked me to click the mouse where I wanted the icon to go, so I clicked on some spot on the screen (tried lots of spots actually) but the curser just spun merrily away... I am not really sure what this feature is useful for (why would I want to do such a thing) so I haven't tried it much, but I didn't have any luck with it when I briefly tried it. My needs and hopes were for a dock extender that would go away when not being used, would not bring up icons along the bottom row of the screen (which can be done by the hide icons dwrite), and which would allow for as many docks as I wanted. The other items (including the shelf) were superfluous, though nice. I'd still really like to see a "hide-able" shelf. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT filename to DOS filename Date: 22 Oct 1994 00:32:03 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410220532.AA08253@alleg.EDU> Is there anyway to convert a nice NeXT filename like "MyFileHere.XYz" to ye ol' DOS filename "myfilehe.xyz"? Just one of these days I would like to be able to drag my file to a DOS disk (for those unfortunte times when I have to use an IBM with WP) without the processes panel popping up and saying "File name too long" (never mentions the fact that there can't be capitals. All it would have to do is take the first 8 letters before the suffix, make them lower case, and add the same suffix (if any) which had been on there before. Sounds simple enough (says me who couldn't find his way out of a loop). Thanks for listening, TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: When is an app not an app? Message-ID: <1994Oct21.192128.321@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 19:21:28 GMT In article <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: }~ I have a copy of ScoreAndSound.app in a subdirectory of }~ /LocalApps. When I am logged in as root, it registers as }~ an app, displays its app icon, and causes .score files to }~ display as document icons for Score and Sound. }~ }~ However, when I am logged in as my normal userid, ScoreAndSound }~ appears as a normal directory icon... The __ICON segment in the same-named executable within the app wrapper must be readable, and in the portion of the app that targets YOUR architecture... (I've not checked that -- could be it takes the FIRST architecture in the app). NeXT???? Example: otool -l /NextApps/Preview.app/Preview (unrelated entries edited out)... segname __ICON sectname __header -- defines the icons to use for 1. the app wrapper 2. the executable within the wrapper 3. handled extensions (if any) sectname app -- the actual .tiff (or .eps) that is the app icon (usually). The point is that it matches what is in the __header table sectname ps -- in THIS case, the classic PostScript icon that is displayed for .ps files --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax-On-Demand software/system on Moto-NeXT? Date: 22 Oct 1994 15:53:17 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <38bchd$tg@news.mic.ucla.edu> Keywords: fax-on-demand I would like to set up a fax-on-demand system on my black NeXT (NS 3.2), but I am not aware on anything that would allow me to do this. Any ideas? heikki ketola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) Subject: PPP 2.1.2 and Dynamic IP Addressing? Message-ID: <1994Oct22.153136.25794@olaf.wellesley.edu> Sender: news@olaf.wellesley.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Wellesley College References: <CRATH.94Oct13145327@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 15:31:36 GMT Does the current free ppp app (ppp 2.1.2) for NEXTSTEP 3.2 support dynamic IP addressing? Has anyone gotten this to work? Thanks. Carl ========================================================================= Carl Jones Internet: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu Systems Librarian Voice: (617) 283-2172 Margaret Clapp Library Fax: (617) 283-3640 Wellesley College [No NeXT Mail Please] Wellesley, MA 02181 =========================================================================
From: leland@straylight.tamu.edu (Leland Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 22 Oct 1994 17:03:33 GMT Organization: W.M. Keck Center for Genome Informatics, Institute of Biosciences and Technology, Texas A&M University, Houston Message-ID: <LELAND.94Oct22120333@straylight.tamu.edu> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> <37jbhv$ggg@oclc.org> In-reply-to: rhm@oclc.org's message of 13 Oct 1994 09:09:19 -0400 Hello, : Hi, : the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? Contrary to what I'd been expecting, I got info from my NeXT rep yesterday saying that NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 is currently on target to ship in the first half of December 1994. 8-( In the current issue of Byte (Nov. '94) an article on pp.289-290 ('Whither NextStep?') says that NS 3.3 'should include a native SPARC-based version that can run on Sun workstations'. Wrt OpenStep, the article states 'SunSoft is doing a Solaris version and plans to bundle it with Solaris 2.3; the combination should ship in early 1995'. Solaris 2.3 is already out w/o OpenStep, and Solaris 2.4 is either just out or RSN, and haven't heard wrt OpenStep. Any up-to-date news on either of these topics most welcome. Thanks. Cheers, Leland -- ******************************************************************** Leland Ellis, Ph.D. /^\___/^\ Professor of Biochemistry and Biophysics { } Director, W.M. Keck Center for Genome Informatics { 0 0 } Institute of Biosciences and Technology { * } Texas A&M University { - } 2121 Holcombe { } Houston, Texas 77030 Misty Maggoo ******************************************************************** email: leland@straylight.tamu.edu URL: http://straylight.tamu.edu/straylight.html ******************************************************************** "We all live in the world as we imagine it, as we create it." Andrey Tarkovsky, 'Sculpting in Time -- Reflections on the Cinema' ********************************************************************
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Date: 22 Oct 1994 17:44:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <38bj1t$mh7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> <37jbhv$ggg@oclc.org> <LELAND.94Oct22120333@straylight.tamu.edu> leland@straylight.tamu.edu (Leland Ellis) writes: >Wrt OpenStep, the article states 'SunSoft is doing a Solaris version and >plans to bundle it with Solaris 2.3; the combination should ship in early >1995'. Solaris 2.3 is already out w/o OpenStep, and Solaris 2.4 is either >just out or RSN, and haven't heard wrt OpenStep. Solaris 2.4 is probably not going to ship until around Jan. 1, according to our reps. We have 2.4 "early access", and it's full of bugs. Also, OpenStep will probably NOT be bundled with 2.4, but rather a separate product like Wabi. (but it will probably require 2.4, and come out about the same time as 2.4) -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MATLAB under SoftPC under NS/I? Date: 22 Oct 1994 19:07:52 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <38bnu8$9n8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Grumble mutter.... Alas, MATLAB is a legacy app which is required and contrary to popular belief, NEXTSTEP still (!!!) has a few holes to fill in the software availability -- especially in the technical realm. (A colleague is in the process of giving away his 040 cube since he bought a full-up ThinkPAD system .... the choice primarily driven by a need for MATLAB.) ANYHOW, the question of the moment is whether MATLAB/Windows will run under SoftPC in anything resembling an acceptable fashion? A while back I think there was some problem with extended-mode (?) so that FrameMaker and MATLAB would not run; has that been fixed in the current version of SoftPC? Thanks much for any info, Mark. BTW, if you really want to see me get cranky, ask me why I don't just get a Gecko and run Mathematica! (To be recompiled sometime next year for the NS/HP :( Truly awe-inspiring!) -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax-On-Demand software/system on Moto-NeXT? Date: 22 Oct 1994 23:01:11 +0100 Organization: Contributed Software GbR Message-ID: <38c237$mqo@uropax.contrib.de> References: <38bchd$tg@news.mic.ucla.edu> Keywords: fax-on-demand hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes: >I would like to set up a fax-on-demand system on my black NeXT (NS >3.2), but I am not aware on anything that would allow me to do this. Some time ago, there was a solution by i*link residing here in Berlin, called mix. It was a box connected to the DSP port and to a dialup phone line. It is a fax, an answering machine, and a modem. The modem part was very weak. And I don't know if they were be able to receive faxes. But they had a very nice, graphically programmable answering part with the possibility to send different faxes on demand. Don't know if they still produce it, but there seem to be some boxes around that may be reused (comp.sys.next.marketplace?) :-) Also I don't know if it runs on NS 3.2. Ralf -- melonSoft Ralf Suckow Berlin | Developer of MusicBuilder (R), suckow@contrib.de | the music creation application: fax: +4930 9321901 | finest software from old Germany ;-)
From: darren@inherent.com (Inherent Network Admin Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for 3-d Graphing Package Date: 23 Oct 1994 00:59:17 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Message-ID: <38cch5$oat@pdx1.i.net> Keywords: geometry, graphing Greatings Readers; I was hoping that any of you (or perhaps all of you :) might be able to direct me to a location, or too some information, concerning a software package for NS that will allow the plotting and viewing of three dimensional graphs, compute integrals/differentiations, and general math stuff. Of course, the obvious solution is Mathematica, but that's a bit expensive and a bit extensive for the purposes I am looking for. I'm currently a student at Portland State University and a quick and dirty package for a vector calculus class and general expirementation is all I really need. I'd like to find something for NEXT, so I can stay out of the math lab, the lines, and the inflexible schedules. Thanks for the help! Darren McKee ______ Darren McKee - Technical Staff | darren@inherent.com Network Administration Center | Tel.: 503-224-6751 Inherent Technologies, Inc. | Fax: 503-224-8872 2130 SW Jefferson St. Suite 300 | sysadmin@inherent.com Portland, Oregon USA 97201 | http://www.inherent.com
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for 3-d Graphing Package Date: 23 Oct 1994 03:40:59 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <38cm0b$4ne@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <38cch5$oat@pdx1.i.net> Keywords: geometry, graphing darren@inherent.com (Inherent Network Admin Center) writes: > I was hoping that any of you (or perhaps all of you :) might >be able to direct me to a location, or too some information, >concerning a software package for NS that will allow the plotting and >viewing of three dimensional graphs, compute >integrals/differentiations, and general math stuff. I don't know enough math to tell if it's what you need, but an exemplary and FREE NEXTSTEP 3D plotting package is available from Steve Ludke at the University of Houston. NXPlot3d can produce RenderMan animations of your 3D plots! I found it at the University of Houston's ftp archives following a c.s.n.announce post. I forget the URL, it's something like ftp.uhoop.edu Or you can try Mr. Ludke himself at steve@ion.rice.edu Hope tis helps! -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: some VirtSpace problems Message-ID: <jpanicoCy3IKy.H9x@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 22:31:46 GMT VirtSpace is easily the most useful piece of software I have ever bought, for any operating system. That said, I'm having a couple of minor problems with it. i) I get the following error message when running VS in miniature image for each window mode: ct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 449c0 Oct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]% %Oct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 449c0 Oct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]%%Oct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 449c0 Oct 22 17:29:08 localhost VirtSpace[6797]: %%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: windowdeviceround ]%% I DON"T get this problem when I run VS in text for each window mode. The problem is not fatal-- VS does not crash. BUt the above error message appears in the console EVERY time I open or close a window. ii) Sometimes when I click on the title BAR for the VS display window VS interprets it as having clicked INSIDE the window, and moves the virtual display to that location. They are relatively minor problems, but I would love to solve them. Has any new work been done on VS since oct. 93', when I bought my copy? If so, does anyone know for a fact that it will solve the above problems? Any information appreciated. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: mycroft@mail.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Considering NS for 3D Animation... Date: 23 Oct 1994 07:35:59 GMT Organization: Klaatu Verata Necktie Message-ID: <mycroft-2310940236380001@slip-1-86.ots.utexas.edu> Hi. I'm looking for a platform for doing 3D modeling and animation and output to video and am considering NeXTStep as an option. What I'd like to know is this... are there any professional quality modeling and animation applications currently available for NeXTStep? What hardware platform should I choose to run them on? I'm considering buying a Color Turbostation / Cube&Dimension combination for design, rendering and output to video but I would like to know if it is possible to do distributed rendering with two or more NeXTStep machines on a network and if there is a decent application for outputting animations to video using the NeXTDimension board. Or would I be better off with some other solution? Thank you for your time. Alex Currier -- If you want to know anything about me you can damn well come and ask.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) Subject: Batch Image Processing? Message-ID: <Cy3prA.1o8@info.uucp> Sender: news@info.uucp (news management) Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 01:06:46 GMT Hi. I'm currently an Amiga user (A4000/030), and among other things, I run a graphics-oriented BBS (the content, not the interface, is mostly jpgs & gifs). As a result, I do a fair bit of batch image processing (batch gif to jpg conversion, and creation of contact sheets are the two jobs I perform the most often) with a program called Art Department Professional. My understanding is that ADPro lacks many of the features of PhotoShop, (never used PS) but that it excels at batch stuff like I'm doing, because of its extensive ARexx interface. Could someone out there (preferably familiar with ADPro, but I guess that's a lot to ask for) let me know if there exists a similar product (or at least one that could accomplish the same job relatively cheaply) for NEXTSTEP? I'm VERY interested in moving to NS (those P/90 machines just keep getting cheaper!), and this is basically the last hurdle to overcome... Thanks in advance, -- Phil Martin. mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca GCS/S -d+ !p c++ u+ e+(*) m--- s-/++ n++ h-- f+ w+ t r- y?(**) "I'm going back to my house, but I'm not going now, It's too early to be leaving here somehow."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Subject: Help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.234810.1@sol.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 04:48:10 GMT Path: sol.yorku.ca!ak201667 From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.113219.1@sol.yorku.ca> Date: 22 Oct 94 11:32:19 -500 Organization: York University Lines: 47 Path: sol.yorku.ca!ak201667 From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.111741.1@sol.yorku.ca> Date: 22 Oct 94 11:17:41 -500 Organization: York University Lines: 38 Hi: I was wondering if I could get some advice. I would like to set up a situation on my NeXT account at the university to be able to read News. However I only want a news reader that will allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal as I want the convenience of being able to read the news from home (by the way I'm using a friends account to post this). Now, I believe i've got the right newsreader called tin. I've tried to run it and it can't seem to find the nntpserver file. I've looked around on our system using whereis to see if they tried to hide it. I haven't been able to find it. Tin also claims that I should or could set the environment variable for the NNTPSERVER. Unfortunately I'm not sure of how to go about that or if it's even possible (it might require privileges that I just don't have; but i'm not sure). Also the university has limited our diskquota to 5 megs as well as our privileges. Now, on the vax system that i'm currently on they are using a server (?) called newshub.ccs.yorku.ca from which to get the news. What I would like to know is: 1) would tin be able to allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal and if not is there a newsreader that would? 2) do I need to have an nntpserver on my NeXT system to be able to read the news or could I set up tin so that it will be able to access this server at newshub.ccs.yorku.ca? 3) if I do need to setup an nntpserver on my system is there something that I could set up locally on my own account that won't take up megs of disk space and won't crash the system? Finally, any info would be appreciated. If you want to email me my NeXT accounts email address is atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca. However I would rather you posted to this newsgroup. Thank-You, for now Peter Pochadt atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Recent Fiend Comments Date: 23 Oct 1994 10:12:12 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38dqvs$lsf@panix.com> References: <1994Oct19.195456.1001@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> <JREISS.94Oct21202932@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In <JREISS.94Oct21202932@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) writes: >In article <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) writes: >>The Fiend dock worked fine, but I couldn't get the Fiend shelf to work at >>all! I tried to drag files off of my regular (NeXT) shelf and onto the >>background. If I understand what I read the file icon should remain >>sitting on the background. Instead it snaps right back to the NeXT shelf. >Now as to this problem, it almost sounds like you're running >Background or Backspace or some other such program separately from >Fiend. That app is installing its own desktop background, so Fiend's >desktop isn't available to receive the icons you're dragging and >pasting to it. You're getting the other background instead. Since >the dock doesn't rely on the background window in any way, it works >just fine. If you quit that other program that's installing a >background window, Fiend should be quite happy. Yes, this is probably the problem. The alternative is that they are running Fiend without also running BackSpace the program, but merely having the "Background" option set in the BackSpace section of Fiend. I apologize for not mentioning this in the docs. The Fiend Shelf was never intended to be used with the Background feature of BackSpace - had I been thinking, I would have mentioned this in the docs, and disabled the option in the Fiend BackSpace control panel. For best operation therefore, DO NOT USE THE "BACKGROUND" FEATURE OF BACKSPACE WITH FIEND. It will mess up the Fiend Shelf, big time. This is actually something that I plan to fix in a future release (though not the next one), because I'd like to have my icons sitting on top of a BackSpace view like everyone else. Unfortunately, my first attempts at this - while functional - were dog slow, and tended to crash rather more than I can accept. As to the kudos - thanks very much. I hope that the coming new version will please people even more, since I have fixed many of the v1.0 bugs. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend (BackSpace related) hangs - POSSIBLE SOLUTION Date: 23 Oct 1994 10:25:43 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38drp7$n7a@panix.com> Hi. In the course of polishing off Fiend1.1, I finally had Fiend hang on me when I was using the "Black" screen saver module. I discovered that this was due to a "usleep()" call in the "-oneStep" method of the BlackView object. Under certain circumstances (which are not yet clear to me), this call never returns. I have applied a patch to my own version that seems to clear up this problem, and although I've only been using the patch for a few days, it seems to work ok. The solution is to replace all instances of "sleep()" and "usleep()" with calls to "thread_switch()". So a call of: usleep(x) (sleep for x microseconds) gets changed to: thread_switch(THREAD_NULL, SWITCH_OPTION_WAIT, x/1000) (wait for x/1000 milliseconds) and a call of: sleep(x) (sleep for x seconds) gets changed to: thread_switch(THREAD_NULL, SWITCH_OPTION_WAIT, x*1000) (wait for x*1000 milliseconds) I have not seen Fiend hang under the Black module since I applied this patch. I'm sorry I can't post a patch file right now, because I'm trying to get version 1.1 out the door. If people still see hanging after applying this patch, I would appreciate hearing about it. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: orst FTP File Size Limit? Message-ID: <Cy4zvG.JLn@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 17:42:34 GMT After making sure I have plenty of room, and receiving assurances from my sysop that there are no FTP file size limits on his system, I find that I cannot FTP more than 2MB of data for a given file. Unfortunately, there are three demos that excede this size. The odd thing is, I also run into this limit at ftp.uni-stutgartt.de as well as at sics.se. I get another feeling that there is another factor at play. Any ideas? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: orst FTP File Size Limit? Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:08:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38e8qj$r1m@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <Cy4zvG.JLn@eskimo.com> In article <Cy4zvG.JLn@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > After making sure I have plenty of room, and receiving assurances from > my sysop that there are no FTP file size limits on his system, I find > that I cannot FTP more than 2MB of data for a given file. I don't think it is a problem with the ftp sites, since I have transferred large files with no problem. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN: Which files from 3.0 to 3.2? Date: 23 Oct 1994 19:13:27 GMT Organization: Wit's End Message-ID: <38eckn$ppe@news1.digex.net> Summary: Moving ISDN files from 3.0 to 3.2... which ones? Keywords: ISDN, NeXT, frustration Hello all - I've got my Hayes-NeXT ISDN box here, and I'm trying to do two things: a) Get the software in place on my 3.2 Moto box b) Figure out how to make calls in my NI-1 network. The "a" part is just a matter of finding some kind soul who will tell me which files to move over to 3.2 in order to get the ISDN .apps running correctly and hooked into the OS using the data that I have on my 3.0 disks (PhoneKit stuff.) The "b" part is somewhat more difficult, as in my preliminary examination of the software, I did not see a "National ISDN-1" standard. I only saw AT&T and Northern Telecom. Anyone running with NI-1 as their switch? Will the Northern Telecom work on an NI-1? The third, "extra credit" part would be if anyone knows any other neat-o apps that use the Hayes box. I have heard of an app that functions as a voice record/replay device for standard phones... what's the name of the app? -- John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x307 = sales info
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Touch is BEST FTP software, but is it FAT? Date: 23 Oct 1994 16:20:23 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <38egi7$mug@gandalf.rutgers.edu> I've been using the Touch.app which was part of the NeXT edu CD that was put out some time ago. In short it opens up a new FileViewer window in the WorkSpace Manager with the contents of whatever FTP site you want viewable. So you can in short use the contents of the far away FTP site, as if they were on your own system. This is particularly nice with the inspector panel in WM since you can sort by date, name etc. Plus yu can just drag, drop, copy files just like normal WM operations. I think you can even link in the ../news directory from a remote site and get NewsGrazer to work with it via flat file, but I havent tried this... Anyway, now that I have white hardware, Im wondering if Touch.app is available in FAT format? I have a motorola version only. If there is a FAT version, where can I find it? Thanks, Later, John -- monoChrome Inc. N#3 New York Law School ;^) John Kheit e#8 kheit@hangout.rutgers.edu %-) 173 Westgate Drive R#9 kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu Edison, NJ 08820-1163 D#0 Opinions expressed represent me only.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted Subject: Access Sun/NeXT fs from DOS? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 23 Oct 1994 23:00:10 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <38eptq$n83@news.mic.ucla.edu> I have both NeXTStep and DOS on my SCSI disks (on different partitions). I believe that the NS and Sun filesystem both rely on the same filesystem (BFFS). Has anyone written a utility to read directories and files off the NS/Sun partition while booted in DOS? (I use NS as my primary system, and occasionally need to boot into my DOS partition to do Windoze classwork. If I forget to copy a file to the DOS partition, I need to go through an entire reboot cycle, which takes several minutes.) Please mail all responses to me. If I get any answers, I will post them for everyone. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: alt.irc.questions,comp.sys.next.software,alt.irc From: mrg@mame.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green) Subject: Re: Question: Compiling ircii 2.6 client for NextStep on Intel Message-ID: <mrg.782957685@dynamo> Keywords: NextStep compile Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia References: <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:14:45 GMT williams@cac.stratus.com writes: I am trying to compile an ircii-2.6 client for NextStep on Intel release 3.2. I found I had to fix utsname.h and defs.h but I still am getting an error. Using the cc -bsd and LIBS -ltermcap options in the Makefile, I get an error from ld about the following undefined symbols: _getcwd _my_signal _uname The configurator had automagically set the -lposix option too but that created thousands of ld errors so I unset it. Does anyone know what to do to get this thing to compile? Any help would be appreciated. this is strange. perhaps try putting `-lc -lposix' in Makefile for the LIBS (ie, make sure -lc comes before -lposix). the missing my_signal is a different matter. does the compilation create source/ircsig.o and does the link try to use it? .mrg.
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gemstone Systems (ImageCurator) still there? Date: 23 Oct 1994 16:56:15 GMT Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology Message-ID: <38e4jf$4fl@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Does anybody know if Gemstone Systems are still around? I emailed them about info on ImageCurator (edu pricing, suggestions) and didn't hear anything from them yet. Phoning them isn't such a good idea, since it would cost me an arm and a leg (from Germany). Do they provide edu discounts on ImageCurator? I need something like xv's image browsing, and IC would be (close to) perfect for that.. Holger -- Holger Hoffstätte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++ hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin) Subject: Re: SLIP and hardware configs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <Cy5Dvp.DK@gurke.ping.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Legalize THC Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 22:45:24 GMT >Can you use the MUX driver if you have a serial mouse? Yes. The problem is that Config.app needs the old serial driver as well!! That means that you have to change the Default.table of SerialPorts.config, because SerialPorts always wants TWO serial ports. Do the following thing: 1) MAKE A SAVETY COPY of the old SerialPorts.config 2) Change Default.table to the version supplied with the Mux packet. 3) Remove instance0.table 4) Start Config.app and add the SerialPort again! (Now it should be only ONE serial port) Greetings, Constantin -- <--------------------------------------------------------------> | Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de | | Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 | <------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Wanted: Info on getting NS 3.x developer Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 01:06:41 GMT Message-ID: <Cy5KF5.262@ritz.mordor.com> I am just about to buy a minimal NeXTStation config, 8/105 w/3.0 user, and am looking to get a hold of 3.x developer. The 3.0 user I'm getting is unregistered, but by the sounds of it, it's really expensive to upgrade through NeXT. So, I turn to the Net. I'm buying another HD (207mb) and will eventually get more memory, as money permits, but I really need to get a developer CD package. Are older versions (3.0, 3.1) available, for a reasonable price? One other thing. I suspect that I'll need to find a driver for my NEC 3Xp CD-ROM drive. Where can I locate such a beast? Many thanks. I look forward to the joys of NeXT ownership. Matt -- A2500 /// Matthew Hocker, B.Eng Volkswagen [W] fanatic **** Canadian '030 /// hocker@mordor.com '85 GTI '87 Scirocco 16V * \/ * +American \\\/// This post is recyclable. '88 Jetta GLI 16V *\/\/* ======== \XX/ "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax-On-Demand software/system on Moto-NeXT? Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:08:19 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <38e8qj$1k6@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <38c237$mqo@uropax.contrib.de> Ralf Suckow writes > hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes: > > >I would like to set up a fax-on-demand system on my black NeXT (NS > >3.2), but I am not aware on anything that would allow me to do this. > > Some time ago, there was a solution by i*link residing here in Berlin, > called mix. > Don't know if they still produce it, but there seem to be some boxes > around that may be reused (comp.sys.next.marketplace?) :-) > Also I don't know if it runs on NS 3.2. > > Ralf Yes, ilink produce this thing (mix) until today. Yes, it runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 (They announce a i56 DSP-Card for Intel to make it work under NSfIP) -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax-On-Demand software/system on Moto-NeXT? Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:08:35 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <38e8r3$1k7@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <38c237$mqo@uropax.contrib.de> Ralf Suckow writes > hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes: > > >I would like to set up a fax-on-demand system on my black NeXT (NS > >3.2), but I am not aware on anything that would allow me to do this. > > Some time ago, there was a solution by i*link residing here in Berlin, > called mix. > Don't know if they still produce it, but there seem to be some boxes > around that may be reused (comp.sys.next.marketplace?) :-) > Also I don't know if it runs on NS 3.2. > > Ralf Yes, ilink produce this thing (mix) until today. Yes, it runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 (They announce a i56 DSP-Card for Intel to make it work under NSfIP) -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax-On-Demand software/system on Moto-NeXT? Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:08:58 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <38e8rq$1k8@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <38c237$mqo@uropax.contrib.de> Ralf Suckow writes > hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes: > > >I would like to set up a fax-on-demand system on my black NeXT (NS > >3.2), but I am not aware on anything that would allow me to do this. > > Some time ago, there was a solution by i*link residing here in Berlin, > called mix. > Don't know if they still produce it, but there seem to be some boxes > around that may be reused (comp.sys.next.marketplace?) :-) > Also I don't know if it runs on NS 3.2. > Yes, ilink produce this thing (mix) until today. Yes, it runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 (They announce a i56 DSP-Card for Intel to make it work under NSfIP) -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 24 Oct 1994 01:54:50 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <38fi7a$cfg@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online ---------------------------------------------------- A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ http://www.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Looking for 3-d Graphing Package Message-ID: <1994Oct24.071857.9968@news.media.mit.edu> Keywords: geometry, graphing Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <38cch5$oat@pdx1.i.net> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 07:18:57 GMT In article <38cch5$oat@pdx1.i.net> darren@inherent.com writes: >> >>Greatings Readers; >> >> I was hoping that any of you (or perhaps all of you :) might >>be able to direct me to a location, or too some information, >>concerning a software package for NS that will allow the plotting and >>viewing of three dimensional graphs, compute >>integrals/differentiations, and general math stuff. >> I personally get a big kick out of NXplot3d, which is available with source at all the usual ftp places. It puts out very nice RIB, too (which you can drop right into my 3D stuff, which is why I like it so much). -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@sl05.cc.umontreal.ca (Operator) Subject: PNI 1.11: How to configure Mail Message-ID: <Cy64Ep.DqF@cc.umontreal.ca> Keywords: slip, pni, mail Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:18:24 GMT I have installed Transsys pni 1.11 slip program on my NeXTCube. It works well exept for mail. The "sendmail" process continues to run forever like if it doen't know what to do with the mail. How can I arrange this? Thank you, Francois Magnan
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Batch Image Processing? Date: 24 Oct 94 11:03:10 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.782996590@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <Cy3prA.1o8@info.uucp> mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) writes: >Could someone out there (preferably familiar with ADPro, but I guess that's >a lot to ask for) let me know if there exists a similar product (or at least >one that could accomplish the same job relatively cheaply) for NEXTSTEP? Take a look at TIFFany II. I think it will perferctly fit your needs. Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb and term (SUMMARY) Date: 24 Oct 1994 10:50:11 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Oct24065011@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> References: <CRATH.94Oct13145327@bcaricbe.bnr.ca> <SWIET.94Oct14030809@poincare.cs.jhu.edu> In-reply-to: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu's message of 14 Oct 1994 07:08:08 GMT I followed the instructions posted here (and I received basically the same ones from someone via email too) and got OmniWeb workig. Thanks for everyone's help. Now if there was some way to convince the pixels on my mono monitor to transmute into colour... :)_ Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Re: When is an app not an app? Message-ID: <Cy6EoF.4AE@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany References: <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:00:15 GMT In <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: >I have a copy of ScoreAndSound.app in a subdirectory of /LocalApps. When I >am logged in as root, it registers as an app, displays its app icon, and >causes .score files to display as document icons for Score and Sound. >However, when I am logged in as my normal userid, ScoreAndSound appears as a >normal directory icon, and does not register the .score files. It has all +x >permissions, so that's not the problem, and I am the owner: >hotspur:teaching [129] % ls -l /LocalApps/MultiMedia >total 4 > ... >drwxr-xr-x 3 friendly 1024 Apr 12 1993 ScoreAndSound.app/ >Hence, my question: what makes an app an app? I have noticed that on >occasions where I renamed an app to make way for a newer version, its icon >sometimes changed to a folder, but I don't understand why. And, how can I >reverse the process so I can use ScoreAndSound again? The correct question is: what makes an app wrapper an app wrapper? - it must be a directory with an extension - this extension must be .app - inside the must be an executable with the same name as the wrapper but without the extension - this executable must also be readable and executable Bye, Klaus Brouwer
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Recent Fiend Comments Date: 24 Oct 1994 14:46:57 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <38ghd1$qd1@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <38dqvs$lsf@panix.com> David Lambert writes > In article <388vtp$132@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) > writes: >> The Fiend dock worked fine, but I couldn't get the Fiend shelf to work >> at all! I tried to drag files off of my regular (NeXT) shelf and onto >> the background. If I understand what I read the file icon should remain >> sitting on the background. Instead it snaps right back to the NeXT >> shelf. [deleted suggestion from Joe Reiss and some discussion about it] > The alternative is that they are > running Fiend without also running BackSpace the program, but merely > having the "Background" option set in the BackSpace section of Fiend. Aha! Yes that is what I am doing. When the background popped up after launching Fiend, I just assumed that Fiend had *automatically* launched Backspace... Thanks!, now, when I go home I can look things over again.
From: buchanan@crsc1.math.ncsu.edu (Bob Buchanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP and non-NetInfo NeXTSTEP Date: 24 Oct 94 11:11:25 Organization: North Carolina State University Math Dept. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Oct24111125@crsc1.math.ncsu.edu> Hello, I recently installed and configured TransSys PNI v1.11 SLIP on my NeXTcube running NeXTSTEP 3.2. As part of the installation guide suggested, I made my standalone system into a non-NetInfo system (by following the instructions in Chap. 11 of the System Administrators manual, section "Setting Up the NeXT Computers". After rebooting, everything seemed fine. I was able to login to my SLIP server, ping myself, and the server. I have some more testing yet to do. However, I've noticed some behavior which I think is related to the change to non-NetInfo. First it takes much longer for the WorkSpace Manager menu to come up than before the change. That's maybe not so bad, but BackSpace is really acting strangely. When the inactivity period has been reached, the busy cursor comes up for a couple of minutes before the BackSpace screensaver kicks in. Then after a keyboard or mouse event, it takes a couple of minutes before BackSpace gets out of the way. During this time, the system is essentially frozen. Any people who have worked with configuring non-NetInfo NeXTs or users of TransSys PNI SLIP, who can give me some configuration advice, please email me. If I haven't provided you with enough information to diagnose the problem, email me with a list of what you need and I'll try to provide it. Thanks in advance, Bob Buchanan
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN: Which files from 3.0 to 3.2? Date: 24 Oct 1994 07:59:12 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <38fpgg$dq4@core.symnet.net> References: <38eckn$ppe@news1.digex.net> John Todd writes > Hello all - > I've got my Hayes-NeXT ISDN box here, and I'm trying to do two things: > The third, "extra credit" part would be if anyone knows any other > neat-o apps that use the Hayes box. > I have heard of an app that functions as a > voice record/replay device for standard phones... what's the name of the > app? That would be MessageCenter.app. You can find it in the NeXT PhoneKit Examples. I've also written extensions to support touch tone responce and NeXTmail forwarding of messages, if anyone is interested. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: Dave Spiegel <spiegel@scz.ssi1.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SCSI Driver for embeded AMD controller on COMPAQ XL560? Date: 24 Oct 1994 17:07:02 GMT Organization: Silicon Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <38gpjm$d7v@sunrise.gv.ssi1.com> Does anyone know about anybody making a Driver for COMPAQ XL 560 which has an embedded SCSI controller made by AMD on a PCI board? I have the software ready to load, but can't load it because I have no driver. Thanks, Dave.
From: "spiegel@scz.ssi1.com (Dave Spiegel)" <spiegel@scz.ssi1.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SCSI Driver for embeded AMD controller on COMPAQ XL560? Date: 24 Oct 1994 17:10:10 GMT Organization: Silicon Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <38gppi$d8g@sunrise.gv.ssi1.com> References: <38gpjm$d7v@sunrise.gv.ssi1.com> > Does anyone know about anybody making a Driver for COMPAQ XL 560 > which has an embedded SCSI controller made by AMD on a PCI board? > I have the software ready to load, but can't load it because I have > no driver. > > Thanks, Dave. email address = spiegel@scz.ssi1.com (Sorry about that.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Sonata font? In-Reply-To: alcorn@cmn2.Stanford.EDU's message of 22 Oct 1994 02:50:10 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct24105853@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <389ul2$8d8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 17:58:53 GMT Michael Alcorn writes: Michael> Can anyone tell me where I can get hold of the music font SONATA Michael> for use in NS software apps? Sonata can be purchased through Trilithon. Contact them at info@trilithon.com. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: vlad@myhost.subdomain.domain (Rakesh Malik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep special offer?!? Date: 24 Oct 1994 18:22:01 GMT Organization: String to put in the Organization Header Message-ID: <38gu09$mpg@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <385k9h$lrd@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <3895ft$ev5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Lars Grupe (lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: : un7j@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) writes: : >Hello out there! : >Maybe anyone can help me out with the following: I would like to buy : >NeXTstep (Student Edition). However, since NeXTstep 3.3 is around the : >corner and Student Editions cannot be updated, I do not want to buy : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : What?! : Who said that the academic bundle could not be updated? : >the old version now...Except if there is the possibility that NeXT : >allows you to upgrade any NeXTstep that is purchased *after* : >01.11.94...? : >Any chance with that??? It can be updated for 3 months, or something like that. It's not as robust a policy as what is available for the non-academic bundle, but it's not bad. -Rakesh
From: vlad@myhost.subdomain.domain (Rakesh Malik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to reach Talus Date: 24 Oct 1994 18:20:42 GMT Organization: String to put in the Organization Header Message-ID: <38gttq$mpg@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <385a8o$qi3@news.xs4all.nl> <38625s$ghp@anshar.shadow.net> <1994Oct21.122047.21617@galois.mit.edu> Michael J. Hopkins (mjh@math.mit.edu) wrote: : In article <38625s$ghp@anshar.shadow.net>, : Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: : >teeleh (teeleh@xs4all.nl) wrote: : >: Could somenody post the eMail or voice/fax number of Talus Inc. so : >: I can get in touch for some PCI SCSI drivers using the NCR 53C810 : >: chipset. Any other recommendations on this PCI SCSI board ? : >: : : > : >email info@talus.com (slow response right now) : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : I am not sure how much it is affecting them, but those guys are in : Huston you know. : -- : ----------------------------------- : Mike Hopkins : mjh@math.mit.edu : ----------------------------------- They said that their driver for the 53c810 is a bit flaky, but will be in shape in time for 3.3 (November, or December, if I remember correctly). -Rakesh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: NeXT filename to DOS filename In-Reply-To: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 22 Oct 1994 00:32:03 -0500 Message-ID: <BYER.94Oct24110015@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <9410220532.AA08253@alleg.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 18:00:15 GMT Tim Luoma writes: Tim> Is there anyway to convert a nice NeXT filename like "MyFileHere.XYz" Tim> to ye ol' DOS filename "myfilehe.xyz"? Just one of these days I would Tim> like to be able to drag my file to a DOS disk (for those unfortunte Tim> times when I have to use an IBM with WP) without the processes panel Tim> popping up and saying "File name too long" (never mentions the fact Tim> that there can't be capitals. Here's a little someting I use: #! /bin/csh -f # # Converts any pathname to a dos-legal pathname - no part of the path longer # than 8 characters. # foreach file ($*) set dosname = `echo $file | sed -e 's#/\.#/X#' -e 's#^\.#X#g' -e 's#\.#@#g' -e 's#@\([^@]*\)$#.\1#g' -e 's#@\([^@]*\)/#.\1/#g' -e 's#\([^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.]\)[^/.]*#\1#g' -e 's#\.\([^./][^./][^./]\)[^/]*#.\1#g' | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` echo -n "$dosname " end echo '' -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Batch Image Processing? Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:25:59 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <38h1o7$fnh@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cy3prA.1o8@info.uucp> In article <Cy3prA.1o8@info.uucp> mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) writes: > Hi. I'm currently an Amiga user (A4000/030), and among other things, I run > a graphics-oriented BBS (the content, not the interface, is mostly jpgs & > gifs). As a result, I do a fair bit of batch image processing (batch gif to > jpg conversion, and creation of contact sheets are the two jobs I perform > the most often) with a program called Art Department Professional. > > My understanding is that ADPro lacks many of the features of PhotoShop, > (never used PS) but that it excels at batch stuff like I'm doing, because > of its extensive ARexx interface. > > Could someone out there (preferably familiar with ADPro, but I guess that's > a lot to ask for) let me know if there exists a similar product (or at least > one that could accomplish the same job relatively cheaply) for NEXTSTEP? I'm > VERY interested in moving to NS (those P/90 machines just keep getting > cheaper!), and this is basically the last hurdle to overcome... > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Phil Martin. mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca > GCS/S -d+ !p c++ u+ e+(*) m--- s-/++ n++ h-- f+ w+ t r- y?(**) > "I'm going back to my house, but I'm not going now, > It's too early to be leaving here somehow." PixelMagician by Bacchus is capable of batch conversions and it supports nearly every graphics file type. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Considering NS for 3D Animation... Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:31:51 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <38h237$fog@potogold.rmii.com> References: <mycroft-2310940236380001@slip-1-86.ots.utexas.edu> In article <mycroft-2310940236380001@slip-1-86.ots.utexas.edu> mycroft@mail.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: > > Hi. I'm looking for a platform for doing 3D modeling and animation and > output to video and am considering NeXTStep as an option. What I'd like to > know is this... are there any professional quality modeling and animation > applications currently available for NeXTStep? solidThinking by GESTEL Italia What hardware platform > should I choose to run them on? It runs on either Motorola or Intel. > > I'm considering buying a Color Turbostation / Cube&Dimension combination > for design, rendering and output to video but I would like to know if it > is possible to do distributed rendering with two or more NeXTStep machines > on a network Yes and if there is a decent application for outputting > animations to video using the NeXTDimension board. Or would I be better > off with some other solution? > > Thank you for your time. > > Alex Currier > > -- > If you want to know anything about me you can damn well come and ask. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Numeric analysis pkgs. Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:46:09 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <38h2u1$g2t@potogold.rmii.com> References: <tappd.30.000DD4EB@sam.neosoft.com> In article <tappd.30.000DD4EB@sam.neosoft.com> tappd@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) writes: > My employer needs to solve a 5000 x 5000 sparse matrix. > > We're looking at MatLab on the PC side...any good, reasonably-priced (under > $2000) packages on NextStep? > > Regards, > > - Dan MLab for NEXTSTEP by Civilized Software is $1995 and available from OpenSource, Inc. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic for NeXT? Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:22:24 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <38h1hg$erf@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Oct10.092829.27959@ciba-geigy.ch> Tim Eyres writes > ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) writes: > > Does anyone know where to get Mosaic for NeXT? I don't want it for > > Xwindows, just NeXT. Thanks! > > > > ============================Jon Sacharuk================================ > > I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck > > Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying > > Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -Jon Sacharuk > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > Try ftp.cs.orst.edu for Mosaic for X windows > but I haven't found an x-windows Mosaic yet > > Tim There's also OmniWeb made by the experts at Omni Development, Inc. E-Mail If you have questions about our software, please look for the appropriate page under our Software page and contact the address listed there. For all other business queries, contact info@omnigroup.com . US Mail Omni Development, Inc. 312 Belmont Ave E Seattle, WA 98102-5304 Phone 206-720-2955 FAX 206-720-0389 A URL: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/ -- Sha Xin Wei mathematics and scientific simulations distributed multimedia ASD, Stanford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan) Subject: Oracle7 shared sql memory pool Message-ID: <Cy6x2w.95x@ets.com> Sender: mikel@ets.com (Mike Lokan) Organization: ETS, Inc. Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 18:37:44 GMT I've been asked the following question by our DBA: "Is there a way to create SQL statements which use bind variables to take advantage of the Oracle7 shared sql memory pool?". I, obviously, don't have a clue. If there is anyone out there with experience in this area, I would appreciate hearing from you. Please send replies to the below email address. Thanks in advance. Mike Lokan mikel@ets.com
From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS Installer.app no longer works?!?! HELP Date: 24 Oct 1994 15:35:21 GMT Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Message-ID: <38gk7p$fm9@blackbird.afit.af.mil> Keywords: Installer NeXTSTEP problem Has anyone ever had problems with the Installer.app in NextApps? I appear to have changed something or corrupted something and now Installer.app no longer functions properly, in fact I can not install ANY packages, even ones from the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM. When I try to install anything I get errors similar to the following: Installing Demonstrations.pkg into / ... cp: *.lproj: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_install: No such file or directory cp: *.post_install: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_delete: No such file or directory cp: *.post_delete: No such file or directory **** There were errors while installing Demonstrations.pkg. .. errors. Checking /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Xerox_DocuTech_85.ppd .. OK. Checking /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Xerox_DocuTech_90.ppd .. OK. Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/PrinterPPDs.pkg ... OK. .. done. Installing PrinterPPDs.pkg into / ... cp: *.tiff: No such file or directory cp: *.lproj: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_install: No such file or directory cp: *.post_install: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_delete: No such file or directory cp: *.post_delete: No such file or directory **** There were errors while installing PrinterPPDs.pkg. .. errors. Does anyone have any ideas of what might be the problem? I would sincerely appreciate any help that could be provided. Thanks, Eric Baenen --- ************************************************************ * ERIC P. BAENEN, Capt, USAF * Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) * Dept. of Computer Engineering * AFIT Box # 4146 * Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433 * Graduate Student: Computer Engineering * (Artificial Intelligence) * EMail: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred) * Voice Mail: 513-255-3636 Ext 1017 * FAX: 513-476-7204 (comm) 986-7204 (DSN) ************************************************************
From: dragon@LunaCity.com (Bill Caffery) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3270 TERMINAL emulator for NeXTstep? Message-ID: <yPwNuc2w165w@LunaCity.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 11:47:33 PDT References: <1994Oct18.012118.569@bozell.com> Organization: LunaCity BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) writes: > In article <37h3k0$qpa@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes: > > In article <37eplp$knl@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christophe > > Penrose) writes: > > > Is there a 3270 terminal emulator available under NeXTstep? > > > > 3270vision from conextions. I don't remember the price, but the function i > > very good. Write info@conextions.com for more info. > > Another vote for 3270Vision from Conextions, Inc. Outstanding functionality. > Write info@conextions.com for details. > -- > Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com > Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox > Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax > Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready" ------------------ Another source might be YRRID who's Cables product is their basis for a number of emulators under Next. Try contacting them at info@yrrid.com. They've done an excellent job of creating a Wyse60 emulator under NeXT for us. Bill Caffrey / Skyway Freight Systems, Inc. \ 408.763.7264 vox dragon@skyway.com \ A Union Pacific Company / 408.724.6701 fax Upgrading your PC from DOS to Windows is like trading in your Studebaker .... for an EDSEL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just a thought from Bill Caffery -> (dragon@LunaCity.com) LunaCity BBS - Mountain View, CA - 415 968 8140
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software to slave one monitor to another? Date: 24 Oct 1994 20:13:29 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Oct24131330@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> I seem to recall an announcement not too long ago about a package which would slave the output of one NeXT to display on other machines. Am I mis-remembering, or can someone give me a pointer to the maker of the package? -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installer.app no longer works Date: 22 Oct 1994 17:43:11 GMT Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Message-ID: <38bivf$pq9@blackbird.afit.af.mil> Keywords: install nextstep motorola black Has anyone ever had any problems with the NeXT Installer.app? Apparently something on my system (040 non-turbo black system running NS 3.2) has either been changed or corrupted and now I can no longer install ANY packages, even the ones from the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM. Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have tried just recopying Installer.app from the CD-ROM but this has not helped. I get errors something like the following whenever I try to install a package: Installing Demonstrations.pkg into / ... cp: *.lproj: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_install: No such file or directory cp: *.post_install: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_delete: No such file or directory cp: *.post_delete: No such file or directory **** There were errors while installing Demonstrations.pkg. .. errors. OR Checking /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Xerox_DocuTech_85.ppd .. OK. Checking /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Xerox_DocuTech_90.ppd .. OK. Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/PrinterPPDs.pkg ... OK. .. done. Installing PrinterPPDs.pkg into / ... cp: *.tiff: No such file or directory cp: *.lproj: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_install: No such file or directory cp: *.post_install: No such file or directory cp: *.pre_delete: No such file or directory cp: *.post_delete: No such file or directory **** There were errors while installing PrinterPPDs.pkg. .. errors. --- ************************************************************ * ERIC P. BAENEN, Capt, USAF * Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) * Dept. of Computer Engineering * AFIT Box # 4146 * Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433 * Graduate Student: Computer Engineering * (Artificial Intelligence) * EMail: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred) * Voice Mail: 513-255-3636 Ext 1017 * FAX: 513-476-7204 (comm) 986-7204 (DSN) ************************************************************
From: mueller@anke (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Database Poet on NeXTStep Date: 25 Oct 1994 14:59:19 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <38j6g7$ofv@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hallo, I have some Poet/NeXT problems, maybe somebody knows a solution: 1) We are running a Poet-Server on an NeXTStep/Intel-Host and have separate client-Poet-libraries for Intel and Motorola. Does someone know how to create a fat Poet-library, so that I do not have to remove/add the Poet-library from/to ProjectBuilder everytime when I change the architecture? 2) Does someone know what to do against the following Compiler warnings of the type .. /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:18: warning: `PtOPEN_SHARED_READ' defined but not used /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:19: warning: `PtOPEN_SHARED_RW' defined but not used /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:33: warning: `PtNAND' defined but not used .. which occur, when I compile C++ files which include <poet.h> through ProjectBuilder (with the -ObjC++ option)? ( I do not want to switch them of just by -w ...) They do not occur, when I compile the same C++ files with cc++ (extern from ProjectBuilder ...) Any pointers are welcome Robert -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenGL for NEXTSTEP or coXist/cub'X ? Date: 25 Oct 1994 15:24:10 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <38j7uq$4eu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Is it possible to get OpenGL for NEXTSTEP or for an X server for NEXTSTEP ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: don@approp1.house.gov (Don McKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: This man is an island Date: 25 Oct 1994 16:12:09 GMT Organization: House Information Systems Message-ID: <38jaop$9qk@neon.house.gov> My two NeXT friends are goofing off on vacation in Mallorca, so I'm asking for your help. Between my NeXT color slab and our Internet connection lives Softswitch, a mainframe e-mail "manager" that, among other rude things, cuts out e-mail headers and screws up binaries in NeXT mail. Our SysAdmin says they have a fix and to test it, I need some kind souls to send me NeXTMail. Would one of you kind Net souls send me NeXTMail with a binary attachment? Anything will do, but something interesting would be better then something dull. I'm low on political cartoons, sordid confessions and all forms of twisted art, so feel free to send something provacative, or a two word WordPerfect document would be great too. Thanks, Don
From: williams@cac.stratus.com Newsgroups: alt.irc.questions,alt.irc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Answer: Compiling ircii 2.6 client for NextStep on Intel Date: 25 Oct 1994 17:54:59 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <38jgpj$8fc@transfer.stratus.com> References: <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: NextStep, ircii-2.6, compile In article <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> williams@cac.stratus.com writes: > Hi > > I am trying to compile an ircii-2.6 client for NextStep on Intel > release 3.2. I found I had to fix utsname.h and defs.h but I still > am getting an error. Using the cc -bsd and LIBS -ltermcap options > in the Makefile, I get an error from ld about the following > undefined symbols: > _getcwd > _my_signal > _uname > > The configurator had automagically set the -lposix option too but > that created thousands of ld errors so I unset it. > > Does anyone know what to do to get this thing to compile? > Any help would be appreciated. > > Eric Okay! Well I did manage to compile the sucker! Thanks to Scrubbs (nicknac@wam.umd.edu) for the good advice. Here's what you have to do. In the defs.h file, make sure you have the following functions defined or undefined as shown: /* define this if you need getcwd() */ #define NEED_GETCWD /* define this if you are using sigaction() instead of signal() */ /* #define USE_SIGACTION */ /* define this if you have uname(2) */ /* #define HAVE_UNAME 1 */ If you have the above steps in your defs.h everything should be okay. You must "make clean;make" so it can recompile with new defs.h Also edit the Makefile so that the following options are set: CC = cc -bsd DEFS = -DNeXT LIBS = -ltermcap (-lposix doesn't work). Good Luck /edw/ (Zigg on IRC) ---- Eric Williams EMAIL: williams@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Inc. FAX : (508) 480-9368 Marlboro, Ma. 01752-1298 PHONE: (508) 460-2915 NeXT Mail Welcome...
From: williams@cac.stratus.com Newsgroups: alt.irc.questions,alt.irc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Answer: Compiling ircii 2.6 client for NextStep on Intel Date: 25 Oct 1994 17:55:16 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <38jgq4$8fk@transfer.stratus.com> References: <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: NextStep, ircii-2.6, compile In article <3896gt$d39@transfer.stratus.com> williams@cac.stratus.com writes: > Hi > > I am trying to compile an ircii-2.6 client for NextStep on Intel > release 3.2. I found I had to fix utsname.h and defs.h but I still > am getting an error. Using the cc -bsd and LIBS -ltermcap options > in the Makefile, I get an error from ld about the following > undefined symbols: > _getcwd > _my_signal > _uname > > The configurator had automagically set the -lposix option too but > that created thousands of ld errors so I unset it. > > Does anyone know what to do to get this thing to compile? > Any help would be appreciated. > > Eric Okay! Well I did manage to compile the sucker! Thanks to Scrubbs (nicknac@wam.umd.edu) for the good advice. Here's what you have to do. In the defs.h file, make sure you have the following functions defined or undefined as shown: /* define this if you need getcwd() */ #define NEED_GETCWD /* define this if you are using sigaction() instead of signal() */ /* #define USE_SIGACTION */ /* define this if you have uname(2) */ /* #define HAVE_UNAME 1 */ If you have the above steps in your defs.h everything should be okay. You must "make clean;make" so it can recompile with new defs.h Also edit the Makefile so that the following options are set: CC = cc -bsd DEFS = -DNeXT LIBS = -ltermcap (-lposix doesn't work). Good Luck /edw/ (Zigg on IRC) ---- Eric Williams EMAIL: williams@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Inc. FAX : (508) 480-9368 Marlboro, Ma. 01752-1298 PHONE: (508) 460-2915 NeXT Mail Welcome...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Message-ID: <Cy90rD.L7C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington References: <3898d7$1k2@news.iastate.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:52:25 GMT [several "success stories" about building perl deleted] Okay, perl 5.000 builds for me right out of the box -- ALMOST! I get errors in compiling the POSIX modules : `sh ../../cflags POSIX.o` -I../.. POSIX.c CCCMD = cc -c -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -O ../../proto.h:2: warning: illegal #ifdef POSIX.c:46: header file 'sys/utsname.h' not found POSIX.c:50: header file 'unistd.h' not found POSIX.c:59: undefined type, found `sigset_t' POSIX.c:2164: illegal expression, found `)' POSIX.c:4092: undefined type, found `pid_t' [remaining errors deleted *** Exit 1 Stop. I'm using the headers in NS 3.1 developer (not 3.2): is this my problem, or is is it likely to be something simpler? -- ____________________________________________________________ Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu Department of Biology Voice: 812-855-2549 Jordan Hall Voice2: 812-333-2433 Indiana University FAX: 812-333-7922 Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA FAX2: 812-855-6705
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Whois.app "mini example"--Take 2 Date: 25 Oct 1994 23:08:30 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <38k35e$j5r@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <38366g$ruj@nic-nac.CSU.net> <387lr2$h81@nic-nac.CSU.net> Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230] pub/Whois-1.01.tar.Z 51K compressed; 183K expanded BSD sum 38892 md5 58fade84e65acfa742559b82c71fbed8 Whois.app "mini example" including full source and executables for NS 2.1, NS 3.2 fat (m68k+i486). This update corrects errors in IP port conversion. Freeware. [replaces Whois-1.0.tar.Z] pub/whois.tar.Z 7K compressed; 15K expanded BSD sum 27783 md5 25317992225b91eddc99a962801b5de0 This is the command-line program from which Whois.app was derived. Distributed in source form only. This update corrects errors in IP port conversion and fixes some minor portability problems. Now includes sample Makefiles for a half dozen UNIX variants. Freeware. [replaces whois.tar.Z of April 1993] Unintelligible Redundant Litany: <OL> <LI><A HREF="ftp://sutro.sfsu.edu/pub/Whois-1.01.tar.Z">Whois.app "mini example"</A> <LI><A HREF="ftp://sutro.sfsu.edu/pub/whois.tar.Z">improved command-line whois utility</A> </OL> -=EPS=-
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Touch is BEST FTP software, but is it FAT? Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 00:01:58 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941026000158.1481AACUs.malc@jeeves> References: <38egi7$mug@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII If you can put up with "just" listings, OmniWeb will do what you want, you just specify an ftp URL. The version I have of Robert vasvari and Eric P. Scott's RBrowser (0.9, March 1994) will let me do everything you want on systems on the local net, which is extraordinarily useful, many thanks, but not for ftp sites. I don't know if it would be possible to include an ftp option to this application, or even if it already has been. My main problem is that I've lost my record of where I got it! I'd be grateful if someone could remind me... :-) Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Lanscape mode printing in Virtuoso 2.0 is BROKEN. Date: 26 Oct 1994 00:54:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <38k9bm$ojv@agate.berkeley.edu> Arrck, Could someone tell me how I can print landscape mode drawing to the printer without first rotating it by 90 degress? Did Altsys break it? I swear that I could print my horizontally wide drawing just fine by just doing Command-p and pressing OK. Now it won't do it. Also, some of my drawings are designed for 35mm slides with 7.33 x 11" aspect ratio rather than the letter size 8.5 x 11". I can create the drawing fine, but when saving the PS file, it insists on centering the output into the letter size region. What's the point of custom page size capability if it always centers the output to letter size region? I can see that it is trying to be clever, but it's doing the wrong thing. P.S. I could find no bug report/support address from the application, none in the info panel. So I am posting it here. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X on Next ? Date: 25 Oct 1994 19:38:19 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941026003810.1481AACUu.malc@jeeves> References: <0idJOh600aw=BkZ1oF@andrew.cmu.edu> > Assuming this is the appropriate bboard for this question, > Yup, it's appropriate. :-) > is there a public domain X Windows emulator available for the Next? > Mouse-X is available for NeXT machines, but there's no PD version for Intel: cub'X has been recomended to me as the better commercial implementation (better than co-Xist); try <dan@opensource.com> 1-800-TRY-OPEN for further details. > Department of Architecture > Just out of interest -- were you aware that (the lobby at least, of) FLW's Imperial Hotel (Tokyo) is still in existence? Most texts I've seen say it's been demolished..? In the last week of a recent stay in Japan, however, I found that it's actually been moved to just outside Nagoya. I simply *had* to visit, and it was *excellent*: Marin County and the Morris Gift Centre -- and, unsurprisingly, La Miniatura -- (which I visited earlier this year), and even anything in Oak Park ('87) simply pale in comparison. Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: instalation trouble Message-ID: <Cy99nJ.EA4@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 01:04:30 GMT I have NS 3.0 on my cube. I am trying to install 3.2 and when i launch the app from floppy, it says, "this updater is to prepare NS 2.0 for the 3.2 upgrade, you don't need it, quit y/n?" i can see the installer launch button underneath the dialog box, but when i cancle the update 2.0-3.2 button, it closes the launch installer window too!!....argghh ericd
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Lanscape mode printing in Virtuoso 2.0 is BROKEN. Date: 26 Oct 1994 03:04:44 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <38kh0c$pg0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <38k9bm$ojv@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >Arrck, >Could someone tell me how I can print landscape mode drawing >to the printer without first rotating it by 90 degress? >Did Altsys break it? I swear that I could print my >horizontally wide drawing just fine by just doing Command-p and >pressing OK. Now it won't do it. Oh, you have to go to "select PPD" and there, also select the landscape paper option. I know that this makes no sense whatsoever, but you have to do it anyway. >Also, some of my drawings are designed for 35mm slides with >7.33 x 11" aspect ratio rather than the letter size 8.5 x 11". >I can create the drawing fine, but when saving the PS file, >it insists on centering the output into the letter size region. >What's the point of custom page size capability if it always >centers the output to letter size region? Haven't tried that, but you probably want to do the same thing. Saving to EPS might also work better. Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: NeXT filename to DOS filename Message-ID: <Cy8z4v.KBC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <BYER.94Oct24110015@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:17:19 GMT In article <BYER.94Oct24110015@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: |Here's a little someting I use: | |#! /bin/csh -f |# |# Converts any pathname to a dos-legal pathname - no part of the path longer |# than 8 characters. |# |foreach file ($*) | set dosname = `echo $file | sed -e 's#/\.#/X#' -e 's#^\.#X#g' -e 's#\.#@#g' -e 's#@\([^@]*\)$#.\1#g' -e 's#@\([^@]*\)/#.\1/#g' -e 's#\([^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.][^/.]\)[^/.]*#\1#g' -e 's#\.\([^./][^./][^./]\)[^/]*#.\1#g' | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` | echo -n "$dosname " |end |echo '' | Should it be obvious *how* you use this? It creates a new name which is a valid dos filename, but how would one use this in practice? E.g., perhaps a TickleService to copy with name translation? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 00:48:51 GMT >> What are the phone numbers for Absoft and Language Systems? Also, how much do >> these compilers cost, and is there an educational discount? >> >> Clifford Tanaka. > >Absoft are on 810 853 0095. You'll probably need to talk to them about >pricing, as I bought my copy through their UK distributors. > Language Systems is at 703-478-0181 or langsys@applelink.apple.com. As long as the subject is discussed, let me use the opportunity to trash once more the Abosft compilers. My advice is to stay away from them if you have a choice. Flame me as much as you want, but I feel strongly about this :-). What follows is my latest example of the Absoft user-unfriendlyness. Does anybody know how to make the following snippet compile with Absoft FORTRAN? parameter (i=1) parameter (j=2) parameter (k=max(i,j)) . . . stop end The Absoft compilers (Mac, NeXT, and IBM RS/6000) are the only ones that I tried that refused to compile the above code. The code compiles without problem with LangSys FORTRAN (Mac), VAX FORTRAN (why am I not surprised), AIX XL Fortran (RS/6000), and SGI FORTRAN (Indigo 2). As you might suspect the problem is with the MAX statement. The Absoft tech support people were caught by surprise by this one and were of absolutely no help. I would appreciate it if anyone that has found a workaround (e.g. a convoluted expression that relies on integer division and the associated roundoffs) let me know. And, by the way, no, it is not possible to hardcode the parameter (k=...) statement in the program. Well, actually it is, but it is somewhat painful and *very* error-prone (the I and K are pretty complicated expressions themselves and I would like to disturb the original code as little as possible). It is small things like that that drive me crazy, waste countless hours, and make me hate Absoft compilers :-). Yes, I know that Absoft proponents will say that the MAX statement is probably non-standard so a compiler should not be expected to support it. My answer to this is so what? Nowadays most any vendor will support INCLUDE statements, COMPLEX*16, DO ... ENDDO, DO WHILE ... ENDDO and all sorts of related and unrelated junk that nobody in his/her right mind would use (if he wants his program to run on more that one machine, that is). Absoft has all these goodies and many more - maybe too many. Why not the simple PARAMETER (K=MAX(I,J)) structure? The good thing about all this is that if a program compiles with Absoft it is likely to compile with most anything else out there. Every cloud has a silver lining :-). Sigh... All flames are welcome! Cheers, Boyan -- Boyan Boyanov boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Touch is BEST FTP software, but is it FAT? Date: 26 Oct 1994 01:04:09 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410260604.AA23945@alleg.EDU> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> said: My main problem is that I've lost my record of where I got it! I'd be grateful if someone could remind me... :-) My guess would be you got it from ftp sutro.sfsu.edu // pub/RBrowser/ total 1484 drwxr-xr-x 2 1024 Sep 5 01:39 OLD -rw-r--r-- 1 873983 Sep 5 00:37 RBrowser0.961-fat.tar.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 609499 Sep 5 00:37 RBrowser0.961-hppa.tar.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 1162 Sep 5 00:32 README -rw-r--r-- 1 8666 Sep 5 01:37 RelNotes RBrowser is one of my "must haves" too... especially working between systems and between accounts on this system. an FTP option would be GREAT for RBrowser. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Fiend v1.1 ... Message-ID: <1994Oct26.082036.17534@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <38kiq7$2so@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:20:36 GMT In article <38kiq7$2so@digifix.digifix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: > I've just placed the new revision of Fiend, version 1.1 on: > > ftp.cs.orst.edu:/software/NeXT/binaries/util/Fiend.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz ^^ I see only "NI"! What about HPPA? Should I compile it for you! Greetings from Robert. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\________________________________________________
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 26 Oct 1994 08:31:36 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <38l458$aka@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <3898d7$1k2@news.iastate.edu> <Cy90rD.L7C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: <koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In article <Cy90rD.L7C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Will Fischer <wfischer@bio.indiana.edu> wrote: >[several "success stories" about building perl deleted] > >Okay, perl 5.000 builds for me right out of the box -- ALMOST! >I get errors in compiling the POSIX modules : > >`sh ../../cflags POSIX.o` -I../.. POSIX.c > CCCMD = cc -c -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -O > ../../proto.h:2: warning: illegal #ifdef > POSIX.c:46: header file 'sys/utsname.h' not found > POSIX.c:50: header file 'unistd.h' not found > POSIX.c:59: undefined type, found `sigset_t' > POSIX.c:2164: illegal expression, found `)' > POSIX.c:4092: undefined type, found `pid_t' > [remaining errors deleted > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > >I'm using the headers in NS 3.1 developer (not 3.2): is this my >problem, or is is it likely to be something simpler? Yes, that's it. 3.1 didn't have POSIX. Some people in the recent months have asked how to compile perl5 on 3.1. Nobody had an answer, and those people never answered my question, how they succeeded. I suspect they all took the easy way to upgrade their system. Of course, you can just mv ext/POSIX ext/POSIX.not.avail (Or delete POSIX in makefile. Or answer the Configure question about extension accordingly.) and then the above problem will go away. But I'd expect, some other things won't work then. Let me know, what's up! --andreas
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl 5.0 on NeXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 26 Oct 1994 08:32:35 GMT Organization: mal franz, mal anna Message-ID: <38l473$ald@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <3898d7$1k2@news.iastate.edu> <Cy90rD.L7C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox Apparently-To: <koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In article <Cy90rD.L7C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Will Fischer <wfischer@bio.indiana.edu> wrote: >[several "success stories" about building perl deleted] > >Okay, perl 5.000 builds for me right out of the box -- ALMOST! >I get errors in compiling the POSIX modules : > >`sh ../../cflags POSIX.o` -I../.. POSIX.c > CCCMD = cc -c -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -O > ../../proto.h:2: warning: illegal #ifdef > POSIX.c:46: header file 'sys/utsname.h' not found > POSIX.c:50: header file 'unistd.h' not found > POSIX.c:59: undefined type, found `sigset_t' > POSIX.c:2164: illegal expression, found `)' > POSIX.c:4092: undefined type, found `pid_t' > [remaining errors deleted > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > >I'm using the headers in NS 3.1 developer (not 3.2): is this my >problem, or is is it likely to be something simpler? Yes, that's it. 3.1 didn't have POSIX. Some people in the recent months have asked how to compile perl5 on 3.1. Nobody had an answer, and those people never answered my question, how they succeeded. I suspect they all took the easy way to upgrade their system. Of course, you can just mv ext/POSIX ext/POSIX.not.avail (Or delete POSIX in makefile. Or answer the Configure question about extension accordingly.) and then the above problem will go away. But I'd expect, some other things won't work then. Let me know, what's up! --andreas
From: jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP and DNS Date: 26 Oct 1994 09:11:36 GMT Organization: Swiss Meteorological Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <38l6g8INNamo@maz4.sma.ch> Hello! I have a stand alone NeXTstation running NS3.2. I have installed PPP on my machine and I use dial-up on demand. My service provider uses dynamic IP addressing. After booting my machine and loging I open a ftp session; the link to my service provider is created by PPP and the ftp session works fine. I close the session, and the link is released after a certain amount of idle time. Now is the problem: if I try again to open a ftp session I get the following error messages: "Host name lookup failure" (when using the host name) "Host is unreachable" (when using the host IP address) Moreover the pppd daemon is not called by the client application. Any help welcome Jean-Marie Bettems Zuerich, Switzerland
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: When is an app not an app? Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:59:00 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941026115900.5277AACUG.malc@jeeves> References: <CxzEB6.68A@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Hence, my question: what makes an app an app? I have noticed that on > occasions where I renamed an app to make way for a newer version, its icon > sometimes changed to a folder, but I don't understand why. And, how can I > reverse the process so I can use ScoreAndSound again? > Inside the Name.app directory there should be an executable, Name. If you rename Name.app, you'll get a folder icon. This is Workspace's way of telling you somethings wrong! ;-) I suspect that what's happened to your ScoreAndSound.app, though, is that although the directory has the correct permissions, the executable inside, ScoreAndSound, doesn't. Cd to ScoreAndSound.app, and check the permissions. You might also care to check the permissions of *everything* inside the .app directory: sometimes files e.g. stuff inside .nib directories, get the wrong permissions, which can result in the app not running, or crashing unexpectedly (say when an interface can't be loaded). I hope this helps, Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 26 Oct 1994 09:14:00 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> Hi. I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available 2. A triple fat version will be submitted as soon as possible - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener v3.1.3a Date: 26 Oct 1994 13:32:58 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <38llqa$g4h@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Would some kind soul please tell me where Opener v3.1.3a is archived? Thanks. Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cnslt003@phibro.com> From: Russ Schissler<cnslt003@phibro.com> Message-ID: <9410261206.AA25376@mail0181.Phibro.COM> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 08:06:11 -0400 Site: Phibro Energy Inc (Westport) Subject: Re: Software to slave one monitor to another? > I seem to recall an announcement not too long ago about a package > which would slave the output of one NeXT to display on other machines. > Am I mis-remembering, or can someone give me a pointer to the maker of > the package? > You're probably thinking of ScreenCast. This should get you started. Russ Begin forwarded message: Otherwise is pleased to announce their latest version of ScreenCast is now available on the ftp sites: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions/ScreenCast_1.1.tar.Z ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Vendors/Otherwise/ScreenCast_1.1.tar.gz This copy runs for 3 minutes unlicensed -- just enough to whet your appetite. However, the following license string will be good for one month (until 30 October 1994) and will allow you to fully test out the power of ScreenCast: 4CC2-AE4D-2212-9D98-5BC5 WHAT IS SCREENCAST? ScreenCast lets users broadcast the display of one NEXTSTEP computer to one or more other computers on the same network. The sender's display is duplicated on each of the receiving computers. What's more, everything that appears on the sender's display-typing, window movements, mouse actions-is simultaneously echoed on the receiving machines. The number of receivers that can simultaneously participate in a ScreenCast session is limited only by network bandwidth. Under normal conditions, approximately 20 receivers is a practical limit. WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS? * ScreenCast requires NEXTSTEP 3.0 or later. * All sending and receiving machines must be running ScreenCast. All must have a valid license. HOW DO I GET IT? Release 1.1 of ScreenCast (supporting both Motorola and Intel hardware) is now available directly from Otherwise as follows (shipping and handling included - 30 day money back guarantee): Single user non-floating license: $140 Floating network license: $160/user (volume discounts available) A 35% educational discount will be given on all prices. Orders and inquires should be addressed to : Otherwise 2520 Greenlee Dr. Austin, TX 78703 512-474-5533 (voice) 512-474-4556 (Fax) screencast@otherwise.com Bill Tschumy Otherwise bill@otherwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fs@dev1 (Frederic STARK) Subject: Re: Chunking files... Message-ID: <Cy9zJp.ADs@comdev.fdn.fr> Sender: usenet@comdev.fdn.fr Organization: Communication Developpement. References: <383l7l$s6d@bones.et.byu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 10:23:49 GMT In article <383l7l$s6d@bones.et.byu.edu> don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: > > Moral: Don't chunk large files or you'll be sorry! > It just won't work! (TM) > > -- > Later, > > -Don Yacktman > Don_Yacktman@byu.edu By the way I have *never* been able to unchunk WM .chunk files with WM. (Was under 3.1, and I alway had at least one problem [unlucky]. The only solution, was to cat the files by hand) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederic STARK fs@comdev.fdn.fr "No keyboard, press F1 to continue" ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: carlson@newt.wri.com (Chris Carlson) Subject: Fat FileMerge App? Message-ID: <CARLSON.94Oct26100721@newt.wri.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@wri.com ( ) Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc. Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 15:07:21 GMT Can anyone tell me whether the FileMerge app is available for HP's? Christopher Carlson ---------------------------------------------------------------- User Interfaces Group Wolfram Research, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tel (217) 398-0700 Fax (217) 398-0747 carlson@wri.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher Carlson User Interfaces Group Wolfram Research, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tel (217) 398-0700 Fax (217) 398-0747 carlson@wri.com ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP and DNS Date: 26 Oct 1994 18:32:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38m7bk$gun@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <38l6g8INNamo@maz4.sma.ch> In article <38l6g8INNamo@maz4.sma.ch> jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) writes: & &Hello! & &I have a stand alone NeXTstation running NS3.2. &I have installed PPP on my machine and I use dial-up on demand. &My service provider uses dynamic IP addressing. & &After booting my machine and loging I open a ftp session; the link to my service &provider is created by PPP and the ftp session works fine. I close the session, &and the link is released after a certain amount of idle time. & &Now is the problem: if I try again to open a ftp session I get the following error &messages: "Host name lookup failure" (when using the host name) & "Host is unreachable" (when using the host IP address) &Moreover the pppd daemon is not called by the client application. & &Any help welcome I would compare a netstat -ar (or in) before the first connect to one after the line hangs up. I personally have scripts that bring up my connection and default route, and then I change my hostname to what my service provider wants and restart sendmail. After that everything works fine. Also I have found that the exec scripts either are not executing properly on a line termination or 'something' else. So I had to put my routing scripts etc. in a seperate files, rather than executing them from the exec command in PPP. Randy rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: brianw@sw.stratus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mail / NextStep Advice Sought Date: 26 Oct 1994 17:33:33 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <38m3td$gh4@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I work in a Customer Support Center and am having some difficulty deciding the best alternative for our emailing problem. We track customer questions, problems, complaints, etc in a software package we have made. Basically, the general question or problem is written up by Level 1 Support, put on an "unassigned" quasi-queue (really, just a list), and then picked up by Level 2. At this point, the call is no longer on the unassigned list. Lots of our interaction with customers comes across from Internet Email, and we'll take the email, and place it in another file - with headers, contact names, summaries, etc. Each issue is assigned a unique call number which Level 1 supplies to the customer for future reference. The problem: We previously have had only one Level 1 person reading all of the incoming email. Now, we are expanding and don't want to duplicate work or confuse matters between co-workers. I have thought about just placing the two level 1 in a .forward file placed in the account of the address that customers know, but this doesn't seem the best solution. I have examined "MindShare" from NextStep 3.2 and this seems more a "project tracker" rather than a support desk helper.... Anyway, if anyone else has dealt with a similar problem and come up with a solution with NextStep 3.2, I'd appreciate any feedback. -- Brian Williams brianw@isis.com ISIS Distributed Systems, Inc. Customer Support Center 55 Fairbanks Boulevard Marlborough, MA 01752-1298 M/S M32 ISI
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiery 200i printer driver for NeXTStep Date: 22 Oct 1994 15:59:23 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <38bcsr$3g3@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com> In article <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com> rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: |>I am trying to print some color .draw documents and I am having troubles. |> |>I need a NeXT printer driver for a Fiery 200i color postscript printer. This |>is the printer that the local printshop has. |> |>Any suggestions or sources? |> |>-- |><Rodger> |> |>====================================================== |>Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com |>1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 |>Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 |>====================================================== Hi, I have the PPD files for the Fiery200i annd the Fiery150i, so all I need to know is whether the engine at the other end of the Fiery is a Xerox 5760/65 or a Xerox 5775, and I can mail you the correct file. If the engine is a Canon, Agfa, Minolta, Kodak ect., I don t have the right file.... and yes, there is a difference! I use this all the time for the Danish NeXT User Groups magazine, which I do on the NeXT, print as a PostScript file, using the Fiery200i printersetup, and then take the file onto a 270MB Syquest, which I can connect directly to the Fiery and RIP directly of the Syquest drive! Work so nice! Let me know..... Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT News Poster Date: 22 Oct 1994 16:10:43 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <38bdi3$3h8@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <380n2v$jsp@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> In article <380n2v$jsp@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> ptruman@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (-=Falcon=-) writes: |>Does anyone have a copy of a NeXT news posting program? |>I have News Grazer but the poster program is NOT on our NeXT net...... |>And News Grazer bitches about not having one... |> |>Any ideas? |> |>Please post binaries in TAR'd UUEncoded format ONLY |>***NO*** NeXT mail please.... |> Hi, All you need is C-news on your system. Once that s installed you ll be fine. Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran From: pmontgom@cwi.nl (Peter L. Montgomery) Subject: Re: MAX in dimensions (was: PowerPC FORTRAN) Message-ID: <CyAJy0.JsB@cwi.nl> Followup-To: comp.lang.fortran Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:44:23 GMT In article <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: > >Does anybody know how to make the following snippet >compile with Absoft FORTRAN? > > parameter (i=1) > parameter (j=2) > parameter (k=max(i,j)) > . > . > . > stop > end > The use of MAX in dimensions (and other compile-time integer constant expressions) is allowed by Fortran 90 but not FORTRAN 77. >As you might suspect the problem is with the MAX statement. The >Absoft tech support people were caught by surprise by this one and >were of absolutely no help. I would appreciate it if anyone that has >found a workaround (e.g. a convoluted expression that relies on >integer division and the associated roundoffs) let me know. > Try k = j + (i - j) * ((2*i/(i + j)). I assume i and j will be positive (actually we need only i >= 0 and j > 0). If 0 < i < j, then 0 < 2*i < i + j, so the division returns 0 and k = j. If 0 < j <= i, then i + j <= 2*i < 2*(i + j), so the division returns 1 and k = i. Not as readable as k = MAX(i, j), though. Comment it well! Followup to comp.lang.fortran. -- Peter L. Montgomery pmontgom@cwi.nl Mathematically gifted, unemployed. Interested in program optimization, computer arithmetic, cryptography, compilers, computational mathematics. 17 years industrial experience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (Alberto DE-LORENZI) Subject: 3DKit in NEXTSTEP 4.0 Message-ID: <CyAKyq.I6I@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:06:26 GMT Will the 3DKit be included in future releases of NEXTSTEP, in particular in release 4.0? Thanks for all answers! -- ******************************************************* Alberto De-Lorenzi Remedios di De-Lorenzi e Giulietti Centro Galleria via Cantonale 6928 Manno adelo@cimsi.cim.ch
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software From: glover@hikimi.cray.com (Roger Glover) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <1994Oct26.115553.10230@walter.cray.com> Keywords: Standard, Organization: Cray Research, Inc. References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: 26 Oct 94 11:55:53 CDT In article <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: |> |> As long as the subject is discussed, let me use the opportunity to |> trash once more the Abosft compilers. I don't know or care about Absoft compilers, but you have said some things that require response. |> My advice is to stay away from |> them if you have a choice. Flame me as much as you want, but I feel |> strongly about this :-). What follows is my latest example of the |> Absoft user-unfriendlyness. |> |> Does anybody know how to make the following snippet |> compile with Absoft FORTRAN? |> |> parameter (i=1) |> parameter (j=2) |> parameter (k=max(i,j)) |> . |> . |> . |> stop |> end |> |> The Absoft compilers (Mac, NeXT, and IBM RS/6000) are the |> only ones that I tried that refused to compile the above code. |> The code compiles without problem with LangSys FORTRAN (Mac), |> VAX FORTRAN (why am I not surprised), AIX XL Fortran |> (RS/6000), and SGI FORTRAN (Indigo 2). |> |> As you might suspect the problem is with the MAX statement. I suspect this only because your use of the MAX function (or any function) here is non-standard in Fortran 77 (see sections 8.6, 6.7, and 6.1.3). |> The |> Absoft tech support people were caught by surprise by this one and |> were of absolutely no help. This doesn't say much for them, since their best and easiest response is that they are standard-compliant. Admittedly this response would not be much help, they should not be "surprised." |> I would appreciate it if anyone that has |> found a workaround (e.g. a convoluted expression that relies on |> integer division and the associated roundoffs) let me know. |> |> And, by the way, no, it is not possible to hardcode the |> parameter (k=...) statement in the program. Well, actually it is, |> but it is somewhat painful and *very* error-prone (the I and K |> are pretty complicated expressions themselves and I would like to |> disturb the original code as little as possible). I sympathize whole-heartedly. The fact that intrinsic functions *CAN* be used in Fortran 90 parameters is one of the best little-known features of the standard. Yet you can't blame someone for complying with the standard they claim to support. |> It is small things like that that drive me crazy, waste countless |> hours, and make me hate Absoft compilers :-). Yes, I know that Absoft |> proponents will say that the MAX statement is probably non-standard Actually, standard programming proponents (like me) will claim that the use of the MAX function in this particular situation is non-standard. |> so |> a compiler should not be expected to support it. Yes. |> My answer to this is |> so what? Nowadays most any vendor will support INCLUDE statements, |> COMPLEX*16, DO ... ENDDO, DO WHILE ... ENDDO and all sorts of related |> and unrelated junk that nobody in his/her right mind would use (if he |> wants his program to run on more that one machine, that is). Of those features you mentioned, I beleive that INCLUDE, DO ... ENDDO, and DO WHILE ... ENDDO are MILSPEC-1753 features (I could be wrong! Am I?). With only a few exceptions, all vendors to the military were required to support these features in their Fortran compilers. Even so, This argument seems very tenuous to me. You claim that, since a vendor violates the standard in areas that do not matter to you, they should also violate the standard in all areas that do matter to you. I would argue instead that any time that the programmer takes advantage of sexy, useful vendor extensions to the supported standard, he should do it with eyes open and a standard workaround in hand (or better, in the code, commented out). |> Absoft |> has all these goodies and many more - maybe too many. Why not the |> simple PARAMETER (K=MAX(I,J)) structure? It would be much more constructive to complain about how slow vendors (ABSOFT included) are about coming to market with a Fortran 90 compiler, which would have the feature you want. |> The good thing about all this is that if a program compiles with |> Absoft it is likely to compile with most anything else out there. |> Every cloud has a silver lining :-). Sigh... |> |> All flames are welcome! I did not intend to flame, but if that is the way you see it, so be it. I just hate to see anyone ELSE being flamed for complying with the standard. Flame the standard. Flame non-compliance with the new standard. But PLEASE don't flame compliance with the old standard when that's all they claim! ----------------------------------------------- Roger Glover XXXX\ \ / \ /XXX \ / \ X \ /\\\ X///X /\\\ Cray Research, Inc. / \ / \/ /\ / \ / \X /\ X \ / \ X\ \ X DISCLAIMER HAIKU: //X/ X\\\X //X/ X \ X X\\ / \ X/X \ X \\\ CRI may not / \ X///X / \/ X//XX X \ / \ X \\ X \ Share these opinions of mine / \ X X /\\\/ X X X///X /XXX/ X///X /XXX/ This is not my fault
From: smcgrew@moo.uoregon.edu (Steve McGrew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Considering NS for 3D Animation... Date: 26 Oct 1994 18:13:51 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <38m68v$p24@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <mycroft-2310940236380001@slip-1-86.ots.utexas.edu> In article <mycroft-2310940236380001@slip-1-86.ots.utexas.edu>, mycroft@mail.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes: |> |> Hi. I'm looking for a platform for doing 3D modeling and animation and |> output to video and am considering NeXTStep as an option. What I'd like to |> know is this... are there any professional quality modeling and animation |> applications currently available for NeXTStep? What hardware platform |> should I choose to run them on? |> |> I'm considering buying a Color Turbostation / Cube&Dimension combination |> for design, rendering and output to video but I would like to know if it |> is possible to do distributed rendering with two or more NeXTStep machines |> on a network and if there is a decent application for outputting |> animations to video using the NeXTDimension board. Or would I be better |> off with some other solution? |> |> Thank you for your time. |> |> Alex Currier |> |> -- |> If you want to know anything about me you can damn well come and ask. You should look into Solid Thinking by Gestel This is a full featured animation/modeling enviroment that, in my opinion, is very capable of producing 'professional' quality work. I have been using it for the past year and feel as a modeler it is excellent. As an animator it currently lacks some of the features of other high end animation packages however I have been in close contact with Gestel and they are aware of these deficencies and they are working to fix them. I feel that if Gestel continues development this will be a serious high end package before this time next year *personal note As far as hardware. That all depends on what you are planning to do. If it is animation work that you want to dump to video you will need as much speed as you can get. I would recommend probably either an HP workstation (although I know very little about these - but I have heard that they are fast) or a fast PC (pentium something or another) I currently have a Pentium 60 with 40 megs or RAM and find that if I want to render anything complicated at NTSC resolution it is unreasonable for animations longer than about 10 seconds. As far as PC video export solutions they do exist however I do not know how well they work nor how much they cost. All of the work that I do is digital. (it never leaves the As far as another solution: I have looked into just about everything before I decided to go with NeXTstep and did not find anything in the same price point that had the flexibility or preformance. The only thing better would be an SGI however with Hardware and Software you better be ready to spend a small fortune. Wow... I wrote too much... If you have any other question I can be reached here. smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu Steven McGrew
From: sslmh@lerc.nasa.gov (Louis Handler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Date: 26 Oct 1994 14:37:15 -0400 Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Message-ID: <38m7kr$abn@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov> References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> In message <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: > parameter (i=1) > parameter (j=2) > parameter (k=max(i,j)) > ... > stop > end where the parameter statement containing "max" does not compile. There is an old trick to get max, when it is not available, using abs. Try: parameter (k=(i+j+abs(i-j))/2) or: parameter (k=(i+j+iabs(i-j))/2) -- Louis Handler (216)433-8286 sslmh@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov Computer Services, Scientific Services Branch (1320), Mail Stop 142-4
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: This man is an island Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:51:45 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941026185145.5277AACUP.malc@jeeves> References: <38jaop$9qk@neon.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Would one of you kind Net souls send me NeXTMail with a binary attachment? > Well, I just sent slightly over 1MB containing the (somewhat satirical :-) back page of Issue 2 of the UK-NEXTSTEP-User Group newsletter; now I wonder how many other people sent stuff? > don@approp1.house.gov (Don McKinnon) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I hope they don't revoke my US citizenship... :-) Have fun, mmalcolm. Born: Chicago, 6th January, 1965 (Hint! ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran From: sfarmer@trc.amoco.com (Steven Farmer) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <1994Oct26.124942@trc.amoco.com> Originator: zslf08@seqstrat Sender: usenet@trc.amoco.com Organization: apctrc References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:49:42 GMT In article <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: [ flame bait deleted... ] > > Does anybody know how to make the following snippet > compile with Absoft FORTRAN? > > parameter (i=1) > parameter (j=2) > parameter (k=max(i,j)) > . > . > . > stop > end > Well, you might try commenting out the bad parameter statement and then using a simple assignment to k. Just a thought... Function references in parameter statements violate the standard. Many compilers silently support this as an extension, many emit warning messages but compile the code anyway, and there are lots of others (Cray's cft77 for example) that will simply treat things like this as fatal errors. If you want portable code, you have to write fortran, not 'extended' fortran. Maybe you should be flaming the program's author instead of Absoft. Steve Farmer
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Jumper diagram for HP 660 MB drive Date: 26 Oct 1994 21:36:38 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <38mi56$6ld@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have posted this to sys.next.hardware too, but, I need to set the jumpers on my HP 660 MB hard drive to scsi id 2, 3, 4, or 5. I thought someone on this group might have the same animal as I have on my black next, and might be kind enough to help me with the info I need. In addition to the jumper config, I need to know which of the three banks of jumpers sets the scsi id. Thanks for any assistance, Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: Geoff Hopson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphical debugger/animator for NeXTSTEP? Date: 26 Oct 1994 16:40:17 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <38m0ph$7it@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yesterday I installed and ran a product called OST-Look on the Sparcy on my desk. This beast reads in a C++-based binary and animates its execution in a display window, showing the instantiation tree, class tree, messages passed between objects, stack traces, memory leaks and so on. In short, wonderful. The distributor has told me that Taligent have purchased 200 licenses, and are also bundling a crippled version into their forthcoming (so-called) Application Frameworks (obviously expecting people to produce buggy software 8^) ) I have seen/used the default gdb interface that comes with NS Developer, MallocDebug, ProcessMonitor and also seen a demo of SuperDebugger. But, is there anything that animates an applications' execution, showing messages passed etc? --- ____________________________________________________________________ Geoff Hopson | e-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk Intelligence Software Systems | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah (BT only) B67 / Room G11 | Telephone (01473) 644380 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- "When you in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut!" (anon)
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFFany II users? Date: 26 Oct 1994 16:25:26 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133) Message-ID: <38moh6$mhl@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> I'm interested in linking up with any TIFFany II users for info exchange. It's a great app, but the documentation is pretty plodding and vague. I had thought that there was a mailing list, which I had believed I had been subscribed, but I haven't heard a thing. It seems all too easy to waste hours trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak. If anyone can point me at the mailing list, or faqs or whatever is organized, I'd be obliged. thanks, Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: clint@leland.Stanford.EDU (Clint Cummins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Date: 26 Oct 1994 21:48:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <38miqq$nt5@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> In article <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, Boyan I. Boyanov <boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu> wrote: >As long as the subject is discussed, let me use the opportunity to >trash once more the Abosft compilers. ... > >Does anybody know how to make the following snippet >compile with Absoft FORTRAN? > > parameter (i=1) > parameter (j=2) > parameter (k=max(i,j)) > . > . > . > stop > end Well, of course, there will be big problems compiling those lines that are just periods -- they aren't F77 either. :-) As for a workaround, I don't think there is one which will produce exactly k=max(i,j). However, k=i+j will be an upper bound on the max(), as long as i and j are non-negative. Without seeing more of the code, I can't say for sure if this will get your stuff to run or not. I presume k is a dimension to an array, while i and j are dimensions for other arrays, and the larger of these two arrays is copied to the array with the k dimension? Another work around would be to not have K be a PARAMETER, but put K=MAX(I,J) into the normal code, and then dynamically allocate any arrays that have K as a dimension. But since dynamic allocation is non-standard, some special coding would be required. >The Absoft compilers (Mac, NeXT, and IBM RS/6000) are the >only ones that I tried that refused to compile the above code. >The code compiles without problem with LangSys FORTRAN (Mac), >VAX FORTRAN (why am I not surprised), AIX XL Fortran >(RS/6000), and SGI FORTRAN (Indigo 2). This code does not compile with other good PC compilers -- Lahey F77L, F77L-EM/32 v5, or WATCOM F77 386 v9.0E. As Roger pointed out in the other followup, it is not wise to use any extensions of the F77 standard if you want your code to run on lots of platforms without modification. I presume you got into this habit from the VAX/VMS Fortran extensions. I believe that compiler has switches which will flag non-F77 code so that you can make your code more portable. Incidentally, I'm a happy user of Absoft Mac compilers, among many others. Clint Cummins
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software to slave one monitor to another? Date: 26 Oct 1994 21:59:29 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Message-ID: <PJS.94Oct26145929@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> References: <9410261206.AA25376@mail0181.Phibro.COM> In-reply-to: Russ Schissler's message of Wed, 26 Oct 94 08:06:11 -0400 Thanks to everyone who responded about ScreenCast. -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calendar application? Date: 26 Oct 1994 19:35:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <38mp38$imq@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <1994Aug28.203515.20890@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> In article <1994Aug28.203515.20890@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>, kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes: I have been looking to a good calendar app for the NeXT for my customer for 2 years. PencilMeIn doesn't give me enough functionality and there is another one Office Etiquette from App Foundation that does alot of great stuff. Let me know what you are considering doing, we are getting desperate!
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenWrite FTP'able demo? Date: 26 Oct 1994 19:40:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <38mpcm$ipq@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <Cv9xp7.Lvo@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Cv9xp7.Lvo@cunews.carleton.ca>, csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: OpenWrite is available in beta and will be shipping soon (within a few weeks). It is a great app and a demo version is available - try OpenSource, Dan Gamble, Denver, Colorado 1-800-TRY-OPEN. Also WriteUp from Anderson Financial Systems in PA, call Kris Younger. He can give you information.
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone heard anything about SMP for NeXTStep? Date: 26 Oct 1994 19:20:25 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <38mv8p$4vs@polaris.unm.edu> Hey, folks. Alice the Cube is still my one true machine, but I occasionally think of the future when I'll need a little more processing power than Alice provides. I've considered buying a dual Pentium, a multiprocessor HP, or even a Sparc 20-like machine sometime early next year, and I'm getting worried. Everyone seems to be coming out with SMP support but NeXT. I don't remember having seen any announcements from NeXT, and last time I checked, Mach 3 was still pretty shaky. Companies with deep pockets like Big Blue seem to have gotten their own kernels working and out on the market, but CMU doesn't seem to have floated reliable SMP yet. Will we have to wait for Mecca before NeXTStep goes multiprocessor? I'd be tempted to buy a two or four white box right now if everything worked. Any comments/info? Dave
From: dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quick Time player Date: 27 Oct 1994 04:39:16 GMT Organization: Intelligent Information Systems, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <38natk$5k@gypsy.fsight2.com> What's the name of a good PD or Shareware Quick Time movie player? Is there one available on cs.orst.edu? Don
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MusicKit on Intel? Date: 27 Oct 1994 04:53:34 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu> Does the recently released MusicKit work with white hardware, or is it exclusively for the black hardware/DSP... ? thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Re: When is an app not an app? Message-ID: <1994Oct26.193420.11646@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger References: <Cy6EoF.4AE@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 19:34:20 GMT In article <Cy6EoF.4AE@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) writes: > The correct question is: what makes an app wrapper an app wrapper? > - it must be a directory with an extension > - this extension must be .app > - inside the must be an executable with the same name as the wrapper but > without the extension > - this executable must also be readable and executable There must be more to it. I tried this: >ll /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/ total 1 -rwxrwxr-x 1 ploeger wheel 118 Oct 14 11:44 WriteNow* >cat /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/WriteNow #!/bin/sh -x echo starting WriteNow.app /usr/ucb/rsh aplki /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/WriteNow -NXHost hkpc The idea was to give my users on the Intel box (hkpc) an easy way to launch WriteNow on the remote Motorola machine (aplki). Any suggestions (besides OpenSesame)? Greetings, Andreas -- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome ***
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit on Intel? Date: 27 Oct 1994 09:55:47 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <38ntf3$29ck@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu> In article <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu>, bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > >Does the recently released MusicKit work with white hardware, or is it >exclusively for the black hardware/DSP... ? It works if you buy a DSP card for Intel (TurtleBeach, ilink and Ariel are supported). You will find more information about these boards in the MuiscKit readme file. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit on Intel? Date: 27 Oct 1994 12:16:34 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <38o5n2$5u6@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu> <38ntf3$29ck@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : In article <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu>, bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: : > : >Does the recently released MusicKit work with white hardware, or is it : >exclusively for the black hardware/DSP... ? : It works if you buy a DSP card for Intel (TurtleBeach, ilink and Ariel : are supported). You will find more information about these boards in : the MuiscKit readme file. Part of it works also if you have an MPU-401-compatible sound card (it's an MIDI interface standard). You'll miss all the DSP features, but MIDI playback/recording is possible. -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: dhathwar@uncc.edu (Deepak Hathwar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Portability of C and C++ programs Date: 27 Oct 1994 12:47:20 GMT Organization: University of NC at Charlotte Message-ID: <38o7go$b2t@news.uncc.edu> Could someone suggest a good book which deals in making C and C++ programs as portable as possible accross different systems. Please suggests a book that eplains these issues with lot of examples. Thanx ****************************************** Deepak Hathwar University Of North Carolina @ Charlotte E-Mail: dhathwar@uncc.edu Phone : (704) - 548 - 0510 ******************************************
From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 27 Oct 1994 09:34:17 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Networks Message-ID: <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >Hi. >I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: > 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available Why? are there no more bugs to find in fiend? Henrik -- Henrik Hempelmann marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT/MIME/PGP-Mail) >> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3DKit in NEXTSTEP 4.0 Date: 27 Oct 1994 13:16:03 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <38o96j$8l0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CyAKyq.I6I@eunet.ch> adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (Alberto DE-LORENZI) writes: >Will the 3DKit be included in future releases of NEXTSTEP, in particular >in release 4.0? >Thanks for all answers! My understanding is that, yes, 3DKit will be part of NS 4.0. I don't know about releases beyond that. However, RenderMan and 3DKit are part of the added value of NEXTSTEP vs. another OpenStep version, at least to me. If Hollywood becomes another one of NeXT's targeted vertical markets, well, then life would be very good indeed... -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: dgesbert@cdphot.u-strasbg.fr (Denis GESBERT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS/2 file system and NeXTSTEP Date: 27 Oct 1994 14:01:21 GMT Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France) Message-ID: <38obrh$a81@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Keywords: HPFS, NSFIP Does somebody know if NSFIP can read data on hard disk drive formated with OS/2 (HPFS) (without using dos format). Thanks in advance Denis -- Denis GESBERT Laboratoire des Systemes Photoniques Ecole Nationale Superieure de Physique de Strasbourg Boulevard Sebastien BRANT - 67400 Illkirch - FRANCE Tel (33) 88 65 51 64 Fax (33) 88 35 51 60 (NeXTmail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: instalation trouble Message-ID: <CyALoL.9u@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <Cy99nJ.EA4@usa.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:21:56 GMT In article <Cy99nJ.EA4@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes: > > > I have NS 3.0 on my cube. I am trying to install 3.2 and when i > launch the app from floppy, it says, "this updater is to prepare > NS 2.0 for the 3.2 upgrade, you don't need it, quit y/n?" RTFM! You have to start the installer direct from CD-ROM. The floppy disk is only needed for an upgrade from 2.x. Try Upgrader.app from the CD-ROM. But be aware that an upgrade of the developer CD will erase the complete /NextDeveloper tree, so better make a backup (especially of the demos). Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 27 Oct 1994 10:19:13 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38oct1$fqt@panix.com> References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> In <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) writes: >dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >>Hi. >>I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: >> 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available > >Why? Three reasons. Reason #1: I have elected not to make it available. Reason #2: There are things in Fiend that took me weeks/months to figure out, and I don't feel the need to let everyone know these little tidbits. Reason #3: See Reason #1. >are there no more bugs to find in fiend? Bugs can be discovered without source code. I don't see the source to OmniWeb or Pastry anywhere either....does this mean that they are bug free? - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: chris@baht.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: tiff2ppm, where ? Date: 27 Oct 1994 14:25:44 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <38od98$4vb@taloa.unice.fr> Does anybody tell me where I can find the sources of a tiff2ppm image converter (to use on a HP Gecko NeXT Station) ? Thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------- ! TAGGIASCO Chritian ! ! ! ! Institut Non Lineaire de Nice ! ! UMR 129 - C.N.R.S. Universite de Nice Sophia Antipolis ! ! 1361 route des lucioles - Sophia Antipolis - !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@nautilus.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: Need HELP getting SLIP working Message-ID: <1994Oct27.141757.7384@alw.nih.gov> Keywords: SLIP Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 14:17:57 GMT Hello, I posted a request for help several days ago regarding some problems I've had setting up SLIP on my NeXTcube running NeXTSTEP 3.2. I'm using TransSys PNI v1.11. As per the instructions for that software and since my NeXT is standalone with no other network connection than that to be provided by SLIP, I used HostManager.app to convert my NeXT to a non-NetInfo system. Since then I've noticed that some applications and UNIX command line commands take quite a bit longer to execute. I'm supposing they must be attempting to use NetInfo or the network. My question still stands: "How can I eliminate or shorten the pauses which ensue when trying to sue a command that depends on NetInfo?" I'm also having some trouble with the SLIP connection and software itself. I've included the commands and responses of a few interactions below. First when I start SLIP this is the message I get. It doesn't seem to cause any harm. Someone please let me know if it indicates a problem I'm not suspecting. > buchanan:3# ./pnirun pni0 > No device /dev/pni0 - kernel driver probably not loaded Once the SLIP connection is up, I can ping myself and the other end of the link (a terminal server providing SLIP services), but I can't ping anything else (not by name or IP number). I have created a /etc/resolv.conf file and an /etc/hosts file. Furthermore once the SLIP link is up I seem to have no control over it. pnistat doesn't seem to work for me. I also can't bring down the link. > buchanan:4# ./pnistat pni0 > ./pnistat: Error binding to dameon - is it running? > buchanan:5# ./pnirun -down pni0 > /etc/pni/bin/pnistat: Error binding to dameon - is it running? The daemon is running according to a ps. > buchanan:7# ps gaux > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > root 267 12.2 4.0 1.98M 656K p3 R 0:00 ps gaux > ... > root 234 0.0 6.4 2.02M 1.02M ? S 0:03 /etc/pni/pnid -c -n pni0 -f > ... I can get the link to terminate by sending a kill -HUP to the pnid process. Could this ungraceful termination of the link cause problems later? Now my machine name is configured to be "buchanan". In the pni0.config file I have assigned the IP# 157.98.11.201 to buchanan (got this number through official channels) and I have assigned the IP# 157.98.9.40 to the other end of the link (again, I asked and got the number). I checked my routing tables (approximately 2 minutes elapsed between the time I entered the netstat -r command and the time the command produced any output). > buchanan:15# netstat -r > Routing tables > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface > 157.98.9.40 157.98.11.201 UH 0 16 pni0 > 157.98.11.201 buchanan UH 0 0 lo0 > buchanan buchanan UH 2 454 lo0 > default 157.98.9.40 UG 0 0 pni0 > 157.98 157.98.11.201 U 4 1178 en0 Everything seems to be in order here, the default path is through the other end of the SLIP link and the right interface is being used. I wondered if the en0 interface should be present in this list, so I tried to delete this route, but didn't have any luck. > buchanan:16# route delete net 157.98 157.98.11.201 > delete net 157.98: gateway 157.98.11.201: not in table If anybody can help get this SLIP link functioning please email me your suggestions. I'd be more than happy to test your suggestions and summarize them for a SLIP FAQ. Thanks, Bob Buchanan
From: Chris_Beegle@WilTel.com (Chris Beegle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PIM Date: 27 Oct 1994 14:29:58 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <38odh6$ggd@gateway.wiltel.com> I am looking for a shareware PIM or a ToDo List on NeXT that is FAT or Intel Based. I have looked on a few sites ftp.cs.orst.edu and didn't see anything. And also does anyone one know where a large FAT or Intel Based NeXT Lib is that is FTP able? Thanks ahead of time. Chris
From: amundson@phenom.physics.wisc.edu (James Amundson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript--FIX Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:11:02 -0600 Organization: Clever disclaimer concerning lack thereof Message-ID: <amundson-2710941011020001@phens8.physics.wisc.edu> References: <CAP.94Oct14110354@NOVA.cmu.edu> <37mh2r$gq8@news.mic.ucla.edu> <CAP.94Oct15100419@NOVA.cmu.edu> After much discussion, the bottom line on this subject is that there is a problem for those of us who have to read postscript files generated by dvips. This problem is unlikely to go away anytime soon. Fortunately, I have a hack ("fix" is really too strong a word) that makes these files useable on the NeXT. The results are not quite as good as Ghostscript, but are *much* better than the default. THE HACK: Open your postscript file and search for the following sequence: /CharBuilder{save 3 1 roll S dup /base get 2 index get S /BitMaps get S get /ch-data X pop /ctr 0 N ch-dx 0 ch-xoff ch-yoff ch-height sub ch-xoff ch-width add ch-yoff setcachedevice ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff .1 sub]{ch-image}imagemask restore}B /D{ Replace the entire sequence with the following: /CharBuilder{save 3 1 roll S dup /base get 2 index get S /BitMaps get S get /ch-data X pop /ctr 0 N ch-dx 0 ch-xoff ch-yoff ch-height sub ch-xoff ch-width add ch-yoff setcachedevice ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff .1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -1.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff .1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -2.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff .1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 1.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -1.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 1.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -2.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 1.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 2.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -1.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 2.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask ch-width ch-height true[1 0 0 -1 -2.1 ch-xoff sub ch-yoff 2.1 add]{ch-image}imagemask restore}B /D{ Open the file with Preview.app to see that readability is dramatically increased. I should really write a script to do the replacement automatically, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. If anyone else writes a script to do so (hint, hint), please send a copy to me. HOW IT WORKS: I've replaced the routine that draws a single bitmap character with one that draws the character and then smears it all around. The net result is text that is much darker. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS: The idea and part of the implementation came from my colleague, David Summers. --Jim Amundson
From: john@delta.success.net (John Banghart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:54:50 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <38oiga$595@uuneo.neosoft.com> When I try to run OmniWeb, it comes up but immediately dies with this message in the console: Bus error Can someone help me out? -John
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.app inferior to GhostScript--FIX Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:04:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <38omjm$45d@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <amundson-2710941011020001@phens8.physics.wisc.edu> In article <amundson-2710941011020001@phens8.physics.wisc.edu> amundson@phenom.physics.wisc.edu (James Amundson) writes: > After much discussion, the bottom line on this subject is that there is a > problem for those of us who have to read postscript files generated by > dvips. This problem is unlikely to go away anytime soon. Fortunately, I > have a hack ("fix" is really too strong a word) that makes these files > useable on the NeXT. The results are not quite as good as Ghostscript, but > are *much* better than the default. Neat---thanks for contributing this. Another thing you can do is to tell TeX to substitute Times-Roman for Computer Modern (except for the math fonts). This is a little ugly, but it makes for much smaller files. Just put \input TimesCM.tex at the top of your document. (Note: I'm talking plain TeX here, not LaTeX.) --------------cut and save as TimesCM.tex %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % TimesCM.tex: Times for text, Computer Modern for math %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %This file redefines the standard TeX CM fonts to use Times-Roman %for text and Computer Modern for math. This saves a lot of space in %PostScript files. For background, see p. 31-32 of the dvips manual. %We have to load cmr10 and save the uppercase Greek letters %since they are in cmr10 and Times Roman doesn't have them. \font\cm=cmr10 at 10pt \def\Gamma{\hbox{\cm\char'000}} \def\Delta{\hbox{\cm\char'001}} \def\Theta{\hbox{\cm\char'002}} \def\Lambda{\hbox{\cm\char'003}} \def\Xi{\hbox{\cm\char'004}} \def\Pi{\hbox{\cm\char'005}} \def\Sigma{\hbox{\cm\char'006}} \def\Upsilon{\hbox{\cm\char'007}} \def\Phi{\hbox{\cm\char'010}} \def\Psi{\hbox{\cm\char'011}} \def\Omega{\hbox{\cm\char'012}} %Now we can redefine the other fonts \font\sctwelve=ptmr scaled\magstep1 \font\scten=ptmr at 10 pt \font\tenbf=ptmb at 10 pt \font\teni=cmmi10 \font\tenit=ptmri at 10 pt \font\tenrm=ptmr at 10 pt \font\tensy=cmsy10 \font\eightbf=ptmb at 8pt \font\eighti=cmmi8 \font\eightit=ptmri at 8pt \font\eightrm=ptmr at 8 pt \font\eightsy=cmsy8 \font\ninebf=ptmb at 9pt \font\ninei=cmmi9 \font\nineit=ptmri at 9pt \font\ninerm=ptmr at 9 pt \font\ninesy=cmsy9 \font\sixbf=ptmb at 6pt \font\sixi=cmmi6 \font\sixrm=ptmr at 6 pt \font\sixsy=cmsy6 \rm --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: freyrb@rhi.hi.is (Freyr Bergsteinsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac to NeXT server fax. HELP Date: 27 Oct 1994 16:35:18 GMT Organization: University of Iceland Message-ID: <38oks6$6v6@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> I'm running a NeXT server and have a Mac as client. Is there a good solution to how to fax with a faxmodem on the server from the Mac? What software do I need? What type of net should I use? etc. etc. Thanks in advance, Freyr Bergsteinsson freyr@nextmenn.is (NeXT mail welcome) freyrb@rhi.hi.is
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) Subject: [G++2.5.8] ftp location? Message-ID: <CyC6E9.6FE@lehman.com> Sender: news@lehman.com (News) Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. References: <38bnu8$9n8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 14:46:57 GMT Could someone point out a location for gcc 2.5.8 (the next version)? Thanx in advance. --- ------------------------------------------------------- John Safar jsafar@lehman.com I've seen things that you people ...
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software From: glover@hikimi.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Roger Glover) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <1994Oct27.122423.4232@walter.cray.com> References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> <38m7kr$abn@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov> Date: 27 Oct 94 12:24:23 CDT In article <38m7kr$abn@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov>, sslmh@lerc.nasa.gov (Louis Handler) writes: |> In message <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, |> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: |> > parameter (i=1) |> > parameter (j=2) |> > parameter (k=max(i,j)) |> > ... |> > stop |> > end |> where the parameter statement containing "max" does not compile. |> |> There is an old trick to get max, when it is not available, using abs. |> Try: |> parameter (k=(i+j+abs(i-j))/2) |> or: |> parameter (k=(i+j+iabs(i-j))/2) Of course, since ABS and IABS are function calls, these "workarounds" are just as non-standard as the original. :^o <sigh> ----------------------------------------------- Roger Glover XXXX\ \ / \ /XXX \ / \ X \ /\\\ X///X /\\\ Cray Research, Inc. / \ / \/ /\ / \ / \X /\ X \ / \ X\ \ X DISCLAIMER HAIKU: //X/ X\\\X //X/ X \ X X\\ / \ X/X \ X \\\ CRI may not / \ X///X / \/ X//XX X \ / \ X \\ X \ Share these opinions of mine / \ X X /\\\/ X X X///X /XXX/ X///X /XXX/ This is not my fault
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Myst Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:47:59 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38op4f$7r4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Can Myst be played under SoftPC on a NextStep Intel box? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
math.ohio-state.edu!caen!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!danno From: danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.filesystems.afs Subject: most recent version of AFS for NeXT? Date: 27 Oct 1994 20:08:25 GMT Organization: University of Michigan,ITD User Services Message-ID: <38p1bp$8tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Howdy, my site has in our local distribution area for next_mach30 an afs33beta directory, dated october 1993. Can anyone tell me if transarc ever put out a newer version of this? Since installing it, I've had some weird system freezes, but I would like to have 3.3 if possible. While I'm at it, has anyone been able to make the transarc-supplied loginwindow work with nextstep 3.2? thanks, danno -- dan pritts ITD/LSA Partnership Unix Support dan.pritts@umich.edu I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink a beer to celebrate something important, like the fall of communism or the fact that our refrigerator is still working.
From: kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi (Sami Kukkonen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble running ppp Date: 27 Oct 1994 21:04:06 GMT Organization: Helsinki University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <KUKKONEN.94Oct27230306@exterminator.hut.fi> References: <KUKKONEN.94Oct27000716@silver-surfer.hut.fi> In-reply-to: kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi's message of 26 Oct 1994 22:08:16 GMT I'm having trouble getting ppp (0.3) to work on a color station running 3.0. My machine has no other network connections, I'm trying to get a dialup ppp connection going to a SunOS 4.1 machine. The remote host configuration has been tested to work but something on my local machine is wrong. Dialup with chat succeeds and ppp seems to be doing some handshaking. However, nothing gets through either way through the connection. The instructions for installing ppp aren't that specific and I'm wondering if there is something extra I should know about files in /etc, naming my local host or about running NetInfo or other daemons. People have connected to this SunOS machine wihout any trouble using PC boxes with Windows. It's a scary thought that I would need to start using Windows to get that good old "It Just Works" feeling... -- kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi/ Everything in this article is factual, and any kukkonen@unda.fi / resemblance to actual persons, places or organizations < Ardbeg > / living, dead or drunk, is purely intentional.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Gopher , WWW for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Oct27162038@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:20:38 GMT Is there any application for NeXTSTEP (3.2) that permits to browse through WWW or gopher. I'm looking for a GUI based app. Thank you, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb 0.7.5 proxy Date: 27 Oct 1994 16:00:31 -0400 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> Has anyone successfully set up OmniWeb to use proxies? I have the CERN httpd running on our gateway, and OmniWeb set up so that http proxies go to 'http://www.sgate.com:'; unfortunately, the server sees '/www.sgate.com:http://[URL]' which is seen as a bogus local file because it starts with a slash. My question: part a -- WHY???? part b -- How does one fix this? From the httpd docs, it looks like the server wants http: as the start. Is OmniWeb's proxy stuff still a little unfinished? Thanks... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:11:28 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Hello, netland! I thought I had heard that there was available a graphical HTML editor for the NeXT; I also thought that it was part of OmniWeb, but looking at OmniWeb (which is awesome, btw), I see that I'm wrong on at least the latter issue. So, what's the deal? Is this functionality somewhere in OmniWeb? Is it another app entirely? Did I dream all this up?! :-) Many thanks for any pointers, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - "Chester" sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM/MAC on '030 Message-ID: <1994Oct27.124029.4982@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU Date: 27 Oct 94 12:40:29 MDT Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! I will soon be getting an '030 based Cube. Can I get a version of SoftPC and some kind of Mac Emulator to work on the 68030? I don't care about the speed, well, I can accept it. Anyway, does there exist such software for the Mac? I don't have much dough, so shareware would be great. Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: se11@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Eligulashvili) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOS or MS-Windows emulation software needed! Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:52:26 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <38pava$ove@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Hi there, I'm looking for DOS or MS-Windows emulation software. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? Thanks, /Simon
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica on HP Date: 27 Oct 1994 23:33:16 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <38pdbs$hf5@newshost.lanl.gov> Hi, Anyone know whether Wolfram is planning on releasing Mathematica for NS on HP/PA-RISC? I've been told that they have no plans to. Anyone have any info? Thanks, Mark
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with Draw3D.app Date: 28 Oct 1994 06:42:39 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <38q6gv$o7c@news.bu.edu> I've been playing with a copy of the Draw3D.app that was just placed on the archives, and having a great time with what looks like a really nice piece of software. Except.... when I try to render the image, it bombs out on me with this message written to console: clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send What could be causing this? I have no problems with using 3DReality, so I don't think a general mis-configuration of something on the system I'm using is at fault. Ideas? thanks
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica on HP Date: 28 Oct 1994 07:28:13 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <38pdbs$hf5@newshost.lanl.gov> In article <38pdbs$hf5@newshost.lanl.gov> writes: : Hi, : Anyone know whether Wolfram is planning on releasing Mathematica for NS : on HP/PA-RISC? I've been told that they have no plans to. Anyone have any : info? A contact at Wolfram informed me that a triple-FAT version WILL be available. It won't be for some time however. -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: devesh@bombay.oracle.com (Devesh Khatu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrade 2.1 -> 3.2 on NeXT hardware, help! Date: 27 Oct 1994 18:29:12 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Distribution: ba Message-ID: <38orho$bri@dcsun4.us.oracle.com> Hi, I have a NeXTstation "pizzabox" running NeXTSTep 2.1 Basically I wasn't using it and didn't bother to upgrade earlier. But now that NeXT has released the Enterprise Objects Framework, I want a copy of that, and hence need to upgrade to NeXTStep 3.2. How do I go about doing this? DO they still ship copies of NeXTStep for the black hardware? Where do I obtain one? How much does an upgrade from 2.1 to 3.2 cost? Thanks for the responses. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Devesh S. Khatu E-mail : devesh@us.oracle.com Technical Staff Phone : (415) 506-4488 Tools Division Fax : (415) 506-7228 Oracle Corporation M/S : 659412 xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Re: When is an app not an app? Message-ID: <CyDnpB.Gnp@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany References: <Cy6EoF.4AE@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <1994Oct26.193420.11646@aplki.toppoint.de> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:58:22 GMT In <1994Oct26.193420.11646@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes: >In article <Cy6EoF.4AE@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> >brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) writes: >> The correct question is: what makes an app wrapper an app wrapper? >> - it must be a directory with an extension >> - this extension must be .app >> - inside the must be an executable with the same name as the wrapper but >> without the extension >> - this executable must also be readable and executable >There must be more to it. I tried this: [shell script deleted] You are right, there is more: - the executable must be a mach-o file, i.e. it must have properly named mach sections. WorkspaceManager tries to read some of them to display the app icon, to know what document types are supported, reads the icons for this types, loads the right binary for your processor on execution and I don't know what else.... If it finds a plain file (like a shell script) it thinks:"Hey, this is not an NeXT app!" and there you are. You can create your own mach-o files with "segcreate" (or similar, see man page) and find some help in the old "Concepts" docu and in the decu for creating WorkspaceInspector bundles. Probably sh or csh cannot execute (or even find) shell srcipts in mach-o files, so you have to rewrite your script in C. Bye, Klaus.
From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend.app not loading BackSpace-Modules Date: 28 Oct 1994 13:12:43 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hi, I am using Fiend (BTW: as stated earlier, a really nice Program!) and would like to use a Backspace-module for its screen saver. But it is not loading it, actually it shows within the BackSpace-setting-panel only "All", "Black", "Boink" and "Space". I have tried putting the module into the app-wrapper of Fiend (within /LocalApps), into the app-wrapper of BackSpace (also within /LocalApps), into /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews and into ~/Library/BackSpaceViews. The permissions are: -rw-r--r-- 1 bauer 33361 Dec 3 1991 /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews/DigitalClockView.o Does anybody know, what I am doing wrong, or how to convince Fiend to recognize the Module at loading time? Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica on HP Date: 28 Oct 1994 13:14:26 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <38qtfi$t6e@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) writes: In article <38pdbs$hf5@newshost.lanl.gov> writes: : Hi, : Anyone know whether Wolfram is planning on releasing Mathematica for NS : on HP/PA-RISC? I've been told that they have no plans to. Anyone have any : info? A contact at Wolfram informed me that a triple-FAT version WILL be available. It won't be for some time however. "Early '95" for a release date is what I've been told by the WRI folk -- apparently the Mma 2.3 upgrade (MAJOR UI improvements) is sucking down all of the programmers' time and WRI doesn't want to put out a HP-only version when a FAT version of the new&improved will be out in "Early '95". :( Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.7.5 proxy Message-ID: <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:55:08 GMT In article <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) writes: > > Has anyone successfully set up OmniWeb to use proxies? I have the CERN httpd > running on our gateway, and OmniWeb set up so that http proxies go to > 'http://www.sgate.com:'; unfortunately, the server sees > '/www.sgate.com:http://[URL]' which is seen as a bogus local file because it > starts with a slash. We run a proxied, cahcing httpd on our firewall and use OmniWeb just fine. Now and again its a little shakey, though I think thats something to do with the configuration of our httpd, don't know. In OmniWeb prefs, I have my proxy set as http://xexos:80/ and it seems to work. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gourmet and Mathematica 2.1 Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:26:13 GMT Organization: The Fair Affair Distribution: world Message-ID: <38r1m5$h8@rkt.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.1 kernel? The suggested method (from the FAQ) doesn't work for me :-(. Regards Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: Where is the Latest MUX Driver? Message-ID: <CyE2v4.Hu@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 15:25:51 GMT The version I have is 1.4, and there are some problems with NXFax and UUCP...is there a later version somewhere? Thanks in advance, Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Form creation software Date: 28 Oct 1994 16:58:47 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <38rak7$b7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Is there any form creating software out there? Ideally, I'd like to be able to have something that would be able to create any kind of custom form, and also be able to open up the form, enter stuff, print, save, etc... Moving towards paperless operation... Eugene -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend.app not loading BackSpace-Modules Date: 28 Oct 1994 13:27:23 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38rc9r$mup@panix.com> References: <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> In <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: >I am using Fiend (BTW: as stated earlier, a really nice Program!) and would >like to use a Backspace-module for its screen saver. But it is not loading >it, actually it shows within the BackSpace-setting-panel only "All", >"Black", "Boink" and "Space". I have tried putting the module into the >app-wrapper of Fiend (within /LocalApps), into the app-wrapper of BackSpace >(also within /LocalApps), into /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews and into >~/Library/BackSpaceViews. The permissions are: > >-rw-r--r-- 1 bauer 33361 Dec 3 1991 >/LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews/DigitalClockView.o > >Does anybody know, what I am doing wrong, or how to convince Fiend to >recognize the Module at loading time? From the Fiend 1.1 Release Notes: > * The problem of modules refusing to load is mostly due to people > compiling Fiend one way, and their BackSpace modules another way > (ie, fat vs thin, or with different operating system versions). > However, there are some modules that either won't load in Fiend or > crash Fiend. I don't know why, for most of them. Bearing in mind > that BackSpace modules are not unlikely to hang, crash, or refuse > to load anyway, I am reluctant to try and tackle the issue, especially > as I have only rarely seen the problem on my or my friends' machines. > I have provided a dwrite in Fiend v1.1 that will disable the > integrated BackSpace feature of Fiend for people who don't like it > or have problems with it (see the file ab_Instructions.rtfd, or > look at it via the Help menu item). I am able to autoload any module I try, with the exception of StarShipView (which is known to have problems under 3.2). I have seen Ivo have problems, but not on any of my own machines. MultiView is known to crash Fiend for some reason that I don't know. Hope this helps. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com PS - using lipo to thin a BackSpace module does not work as far as I'm aware. You must compile for the specific architectures that you want (the ones for which the Fiend executable has been compiled). >Sebastian >-- >Sebastian Bauer <bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) >Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) >Technical University Munich, Germany
From: andrea.borroni@galactica.it (ANDREA BORRONI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DROP Message-ID: <89C94E4.0784000204.uuout@galactica.it> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 20:52:00 +0100 Organization: GALACTICA PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION - ++39-2-29.00.61.50 DROP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Fiend.app not loading BackSpace-Modules Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 17:43:03 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct28.174303.28193@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: >-rw-r--r-- 1 bauer 33361 Dec 3 1991 >/LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews/DigitalClockView.o Try DigitalClockView.BackO Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@toppoint.de (Manfred R hr) Subject: Looking for a font-viewer a n d a font-editor Message-ID: <CyEC5B.pA@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Rphr) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:46:23 GMT Hey, is there any app which facilitates viewing uninstalled fonts? Am I the only one looking for such a tool? Further a font editor for creating and manipulating Type1-fonts ?! Manfred --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * * NeXT Club Schwerte - next-club-schwerte@jwd.ping.de *
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software From: beland@CERCA.UMontreal.CA (Michel Beland) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <beland.783371092@rimbaud.CERCA.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> <38m7kr$abn@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov> <1994Oct27.122423.4232@walter.cray.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 19:04:52 GMT glover@hikimi.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Roger Glover) writes: >In article <38m7kr$abn@utopia.lerc.nasa.gov>, sslmh@lerc.nasa.gov (Louis Handler) writes: >|> In message <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu>, >|> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes: >|> > parameter (i=1) >|> > parameter (j=2) >|> > parameter (k=max(i,j)) >|> > ... >|> > stop >|> > end >|> where the parameter statement containing "max" does not compile. >|> >|> There is an old trick to get max, when it is not available, using abs. >|> Try: >|> parameter (k=(i+j+abs(i-j))/2) >|> or: >|> parameter (k=(i+j+iabs(i-j))/2) >Of course, since ABS and IABS are function calls, >these "workarounds" are just as non-standard as the >original. :^o Here is another trick to get max(i,j), provided i and j are integers greater than zero: parameter (k=(j*(j/i) + i*(i/j)) / (i/j + j/i)) -- Michel Beland, professionnel de recherche CERCA (CEntre de Recherche en Calcul Applique) 5160, Boul. Decarie, bureau 400, Montreal (Quebec), Canada, H3X 2H9 tel: (514)369-5223 fax: (514)369-3880 Email: beland@CERCA.UMontreal.CA
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend.app not loading BackSpace-Modules Date: 28 Oct 1994 22:45:09 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Distribution: world Message-ID: <38rutl$2io@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <38qtcb$ca@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: > I am using Fiend (BTW: as stated earlier, a really nice Program!) and would > like to use a Backspace-module for its screen saver. But it is not loading > it [...] > -rw-r--r-- 1 bauer 33361 Dec 3 1991 > /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews/DigitalClockView.o > > Does anybody know, what I am doing wrong, or how to convince Fiend to > recognize the Module at loading time? I've the following setup and Fiend (1.0) perfectly loads the Backspace modules: /LocalLibrary/BackSpaceViews: drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 BezierView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 BoinkSpaceView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 FadingImageView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 FlexyCubeView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 LifeView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 SlidingImageView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 SpermView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 3 1024 Jan 6 1994 TeapotView.BackModule/ drwxr-xr-x 4 1024 Jan 6 1994 WorldSpaceView.BackModule/ Regards Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ University of Munich Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Germany
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> Control: cancel <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:55:47 -0400 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <38rhfj$tsr@sgate.com> <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.7.5 proxy Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:59:41 -0400 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> References: <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com> In article <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote: >In OmniWeb prefs, I have my proxy set as >http://xexos:80/ >and it seems to work. >Mark Chamberlain Yep; that extra slash is what was killing me. Thanks, to you and to all the other folks who replied. I'm assuming that httpd won't do a non-httpd proxy, though, as a gopher proxy of gopher://www.sgate.com/ doesn't seem to work (makes sense). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3d animation/image rendering Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:40:03 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <38rnj3$1rh@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) writes: > I'm looking for comments on any 3d object/scene creation software for NeXT > which is available. > > I'm specifically looking for comments from people who have worked with > SoftImage or WaveFront and can provide usability comparisons. > > -- > David Jeske(N9LCA) <A HREF="http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~jeske/"> > jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted) CompEng Student/NeXT Programmer/Linux User > Gtalk - online at (708)998-0008 </A> -- If you are looking for something with the same features and performance as SoftImage and Wavefront I believe that your only bet is to purchase an SGI and SoftImage or Wavefront (**$$$$**). On the NeXTstep front there is SolidThinking. This is a modeling/animation package that is quite capable (from Gestel Italia) . It does not, in its current release come close to providing the capibilities of SI or Wavefront however it doesn't cost 20,000 $$ either. It does have a very advanced set of modeling tools and a basic set of animation tools which are adequate for simple/moderately complex animation work. (you can actually get it to do some amazing things you just have to work at it :) So far there are no wiz-bang features but that I am sure is going to change soon. I think that if you choose the Next Platform for 3d work (and there are many good reasons to -- or at least I thought so..) Solidthinking is currently the only (*I believe) package that has any significant animation support. -- If you need more information let me know. Would be happy to answer any questions. -Steve McGrew Animator guy, University of Oregon.
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3DKit in NEXTSTEP 4.0 Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:44:14 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <38rnqu$1tt@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <38o96j$8l0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <38o96j$8l0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: > > My understanding is that, yes, 3DKit will be part of NS 4.0. I don't > know about releases beyond that. However, RenderMan and 3DKit are part of > the added value of NEXTSTEP vs. another OpenStep version, at least to > me. > > If Hollywood becomes another one of NeXT's targeted vertical markets, > well, then life would be very good indeed... -- ohh!! YES!! please let it happen.... and I believe that as long as there is a true NeXTstep there will be a 3d kit... for if they remove support for it none of the applications which are currently available that support Ri interface calls will work.. This is bad... very bad... Nextstep 4.0?!?! I just want to see 3.3! -Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin G. Low) Subject: WTB: Black NeXT expertise if you're near St.Louis Message-ID: <CyEHBF.9Bw@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[7752] Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 20:36:38 GMT Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I sold my beloved Turbo NeXT slab to a fella near St.Louis, MO. It worked perfectly when I shipped it. When he got it, first the CD-ROM wouldn't work, then he determined the monitor (21" color) had been "focused inward", then the computer would not respond to a CMD-CMD-~, and now he claims the hard disk is hosed. I would like to buy your services as a hardware/software expert to go have a look. You may be required to erase the entire hard disk and reload from scratch. He has another next CD-ROM that works. I want to know how much experience you have and how much it will cost to have you do this for me. More info available if you're selected to do the job, or earlier if you need it to determine the price. Obviously, I'd prefer those that didn't have to add travel time to the price. --Kevin Lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu
From: reuss@ni.umd.edu (Karl Reuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.filesystems.afs Subject: Re: most recent version of AFS for NeXT? Date: 28 Oct 1994 17:01:07 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <38roqj$o0@ni.umd.edu> References: <38p1bp$8tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <38p1bp$8tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Dan Pritts <danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu> wrote: >Howdy, my site has in our local distribution area for next_mach30 >an afs33beta directory, dated october 1993. > >Can anyone tell me if transarc ever put out a newer version of this? >Since installing it, I've had some weird system freezes, but I would >like to have 3.3 if possible. I believe AFS 3.3 on NeXTSTEP 3.0 was the last Transarc supported configuration. We've been able to run the next_mach30 binaries on NEXTSTEP 3.2 machines with no problems. Unfortunately I have heard they will not work with NEXTSTEP 3.3beta. >While I'm at it, has anyone been able to make the transarc-supplied >loginwindow work with nextstep 3.2? I couldn't, and NeXT refused to give us the 3.2 loginwindow object files as they had done in the past. I do have a loginwindow that works with NEXTSTEP 3.2 which calls a local script in /etc to do AFS account/password validation. Send me email for more info. -Karl Reuss University of Maryland, College Park
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC app for NeXT? Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:52:34 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <38roai$1o1@news.iastate.edu> Is there any type of irc app out for NeXT and if so, where is it? -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: list server needed... Keywords: listserver, majordomo Message-ID: <10703@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 28 Oct 94 18:57:25 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA Netters, Does anyone know what it takes to set up a list-server? We're trying to automate registration for a conference, preferably having the users request a registration form by e-mail. Is majordomo what I need? Ftp sites? Please send mail... -p peter@nextlectic.tiac.net (Finally, NeXT-mail to my home...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran From: langsys@pcthree.com (Language Systems) Subject: Re: PowerPC FORTRAN Message-ID: <1994Oct28.134030.7608@pcthree.com> Organization: PC Three, Inc. References: <1994Oct26.004851.10900@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:40:30 GMT >> What are the phone numbers for Absoft and Language Systems? Also, how much do >> these compilers cost, and is there an educational discount? >> >> Clifford Tanaka. Language Systems can be reached at 800-252-6479 (in US and Canada) or 703-478-0181 overseas. Language Systems 100 Carpenter Drive Sterling, VA 20164 langsys@aol.com The price for PPC FORTRAN is $695 ($475 edu). Lisa Jones Language Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: 3d animation/image rendering Message-ID: <1994Oct28.231211.1240@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <38rnj3$1rh@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:12:11 GMT In article <38rnj3$1rh@pith.uoregon.edu> smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu writes: >>In article <3857nu$pjl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David >>Jeske) writes: >>> I'm looking for comments on any 3d object/scene creation software for >>NeXT >>> which is available. >>> >>On the NeXTstep front there is SolidThinking. This is a modeling/animation >>package that is quite capable (from Gestel Italia) . It does not, in its >>current release come close to providing the capibilities of SI or >>Wavefront however it doesn't cost 20,000 $$ either. It does have a very >>advanced set of modeling tools and a basic set of animation tools which >>are adequate for simple/moderately complex animation work. (you can >>actually get it to do some amazing things you just have to work at it :) >>So far there are no wiz-bang features but that I am sure is going to >>change soon. solidThinking is a very nice, very professional modeler, especially when it's running on NS/HP. I like it a lot, and Guido (the author) is very helpful. Once the API is stable (supposed to be soon), we can hope to see lots of neat add ons for solidThinking. >> >>I think that if you choose the Next Platform for 3d work (and there are >>many good reasons to -- or at least I thought so..) Solidthinking is >>currently the only (*I believe) package that has any significant animation >>support. -- Well, if you're much of a programmer (not Obj-C, just scripting languages), you should take a look at my WavesWorld palettes, which have plenty of animation support. look at ftp://media.mit.edu/pub/WavesWorld/2.0 My stuff lets you build pretty sophisticated animatable models with arbitrarily slick UIs, and even embed them in your own custom apps by using the WW3DWell, which comes on an IB palette. Check it out; full source and tons of examples included. There's even (gasp!), documentation, albeit not in the same quantity as there are examples... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: most recent version of AFS for NeXT? Message-ID: <CyEuB4.2CH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <38roqj$o0@ni.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 01:18:40 GMT Karl Reuss writes >In article <38p1bp$8tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, >Dan Pritts <danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu> wrote: >>While I'm at it, has anyone been able to make the transarc-supplied >>loginwindow work with nextstep 3.2? > >I couldn't, and NeXT refused to give us the 3.2 loginwindow object >files as they had done in the past. > >I do have a loginwindow that works with NEXTSTEP 3.2 which calls a >local script in /etc to do AFS account/password validation. Send me >email for more info. We have Transarc's 3.0 loginwindow running under 3.2 on black hardware. The only problem I found was that the meaning of the TimeToDim defaults variable for root changed between 3.0 and (I think) 3.1. In 3.1/3.2 the number is seconds. The number represents some considerably smaller unit in 3.0. I've put it at 4200 to get around 1 minute. -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFF to GIF converter? Message-ID: <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 25 Oct 94 13:17:35 EDT Organization: Univ of Miami IR I am looking for a simple TIFF to GIF converter. Imageviewer will read GIFs and TIFFs but will not save TIFFs to GIFs (at least in my version). Any ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) Subject: Problems with PNI of any version Message-ID: <CyEyGw.87y@ncifcrf.gov> Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:48:31 GMT Hello, I've been trying to get either PNI v 1.11 or 1.12 to work on my machine The problem is that after it dials, it tries to load the login module, but claims that it is an invalid command name. In debug mode, I see that it is trying to load a file with the proper name and all, but it insists that it is an invalid command. Has anyone else had this problem? I've tried to contact TransSys repeatedly, but all I get is their voicemail, and they have never returned any of my calls. David Kelman kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <38si9p$6c@panix.com> Control: cancel <38si9p$6c@panix.com> Date: 29 Oct 1994 00:39:26 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38sjm1$49e@panix.com> cancel <38si9p$6c@panix.com> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 (NOV)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend Dock Tip Date: 29 Oct 1994 00:43:27 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38sjtf$4v1@panix.com> Hi. Something I forgot to mention in the docs is that Fiend grabs app icons only if: 1. The app is on the Fiend Dock 2. The app is not on the Workspace dock - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com PS - The triple fat version 1.2 will be out in a few days.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang) Subject: [Q] Medical Image Product Message-ID: <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> Organization: The Dark Knight's Table BBS: Free public access news/email Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 00:25:54 GMT Do you know if there is a product that could help me in processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Date: 29 Oct 1994 13:18:19 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> References: <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Originator: wa@s051 In article <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > I am looking for a simple TIFF to GIF converter. OmniImage is doing what you requested (it also has a lot of other formats built in). If you have to convert a larger number of bitmaps I suggest to use the ImageMagic package which has a command-line-interface Both packages are avaiable from a multitude of ftp-servers (ask archie), OmniImage is distributed as a NeXTStep binary while ImageMagic comes normally as a source-code distribution that compiles under most common Unix systems. -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: appnmail question Date: 29 Oct 1994 11:56:41 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> Hi. I've been using Carl Edman's appnmail lately, and it seems to work very well, with the exception that I can't seem to get it to mark new messages as unread. Could anyone point out what I might be doing wrong? (BTW - I am calling appnmail with no flags, it is in /usr/local/bin, and it is owned by root). Thanks. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with printing from WriteNow Date: 29 Oct 1994 18:20:57 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Message-ID: <38u3q9$dse@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Recently, I started having a lot of trouble with bounced email. In an attempt to fix it, I made a number of temporary changes to files on /usr/spool/uucp/ such as sending all outgoing mail to /dev/null. Anyway, now WriteNow won't print!? It gives the error: Oct 29 10:27:37 localhost WindowServer[160]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush output for stream 0x26b738. Any idea what's going on here? Is it a protection problem of some sort? Note that I'm running NS 3.2 on NeXT hardware. If I boot NS 3.0, printing is OK. Please cc: your response to daj@ccrma.stanford.edu.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica on HP Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:17:58 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38u756$eik@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) writes: > A contact at Wolfram informed me that a triple-FAT version WILL be > available. It won't be for some time however. Does you mean by this that Wolfram is going to change their policy of selling their software in single binary format and licensed to only one particular hardware ethernet address? Would I actually be able to change my hardware without jumping through loops to get new codes and/or new binaries? Wolfram has in the past been so anal about this, that I find the news hard to believe. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: most recent version of AFS for NeXT? Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:59:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <38u9ia$f30@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <38roqj$o0@ni.umd.edu> In article <38roqj$o0@ni.umd.edu> reuss@ni.umd.edu (Karl Reuss) writes: > In article <38p1bp$8tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, > Dan Pritts <danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu> wrote: > >Howdy, my site has in our local distribution area for next_mach30 > >an afs33beta directory, dated october 1993. > > > >Can anyone tell me if transarc ever put out a newer version of this? > >Since installing it, I've had some weird system freezes, but I would > >like to have 3.3 if possible. > > I believe AFS 3.3 on NeXTSTEP 3.0 was the last Transarc supported > configuration. We've been able to run the next_mach30 binaries on > NEXTSTEP 3.2 machines with no problems. Unfortunately I have heard > they will not work with NEXTSTEP 3.3beta. Can anyone confirm that the next_mach30 afs binaries will not work with NEXTSTEP 3.3? This could affect my upgrade plans. Thanks for any info. -jamey.
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Information on NoteAbility.app Date: 30 Oct 1994 00:24:06 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <38up36$l6l@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Can anyone tell me where I can find further information regarding the NoteAbility.app? It seems from the demo that it is a great application, but I CIUSA, the company that originally produced it, appears to no longer be in business. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hardware flow control and C-Kermit 5A(189) Date: 30 Oct 1994 00:33:01 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <38upjt$11on@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Does anybody remember what needs to be changed to compile C-Kermit5A(189) to support hardware flow control? I seem to remember this being discussed a long while ago. Will this kermit version even work with hardware flow control? Thanks Eugene -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Image Editors & Word Process Message-ID: <CyGoxx.C6J@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 01:17:50 GMT I am interested in processing graphics with text. Preferring to edit images more than create them, WetPaint appeals to me more than something like Virtuoso. I have yet to determine which file format(such as .eps or .tiff) offers the most versatility. Is WetPaint a good choice? Or should I consider another application before making my decision? There's a chance that I'll be selecting PasteUp for text processing if I decide I can work with it without excessive effort. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for word processing and graphics packages ><
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hardware flow control and C-Kermit 5A(189) Date: 30 Oct 1994 02:13:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38uvgn$665@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <38upjt$11on@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <38upjt$11on@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: > Does anybody remember what needs to be changed to compile C-Kermit5A(189) > to support hardware flow control? I seem to remember this being discussed > a long while ago. > Nothing. Just build kermit by entering "make next" in the source directory. > Will this kermit version even work with hardware flow control? > Yes. NeXT implements flow control by using a different device (/dev/cuf?), so kermit needn't be concerned with flow control. Just "set flow none" in your .kermrc. Oh, 189 isn't the most recent version of kermit, so you might as well get the latest from watsun.cc.columbia.edu. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.7.5 proxy In-Reply-To: matthewm@sgate.com's message of 28 Oct 1994 14:59:41 -0400 To: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct29115408@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com> <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 15:54:07 GMT In article <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) writes: In article <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote: >In OmniWeb prefs, I have my proxy set as >http://xexos:80/ >and it seems to work. >Mark Chamberlain Yep; that extra slash is what was killing me. Thanks, to you and to all the other folks who replied. I'm assuming that httpd won't do a non-httpd proxy, though, as a gopher proxy of gopher://www.sgate.com/ doesn't seem to work (makes sense). At least for me the CERN httpd certainly does. That particular URL seems to fail, but lots of other gopher and ftp URLs work through the CERN proxy. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: appnmail question In-Reply-To: dcl@panix.com's message of 29 Oct 1994 11:56:41 -0400 To: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct29191115@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 23:11:15 GMT In article <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: I've been using Carl Edman's appnmail lately, and it seems to work very well, with the exception that I can't seem to get it to mark new messages as unread. Could anyone point out what I might be doing wrong? (BTW - I am calling appnmail with no flags, it is in /usr/local/bin, and it is owned by root). Your fault is probably that you use the latest public release of appnmail which contains an evil nasty bug which manifests only on little endian machines. Somehow the line which swaps the magic number of the table of contents from network byte order to local byte order duplicated itself with the effect that no swapping is done regardless of byte orders involved. Look for a version which fixes this bug as well as adding support for Mail.app 3.3 enhancements some time next week. Carl Edman
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: dsql's (1.3) -w (row width) not working on NeXT Date: 30 Oct 1994 11:52:43 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct30115243@steffi.dircon.co.uk> CC: radvand@gb.swissbank.com,nsysdbj@acs.ncsu.edu FCC: ~/Mail/postings X-Newsreader: GNUS4.1:RFC 977, 1036, 822 compliant Has anybody gotten dsql's -w option working correctly? isql works fine but dsql's -w doesn't appear to be working. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: dsql's (1.3) -w (row width) not working on NeXT Date: 30 Oct 1994 14:05:13 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct30140513@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <ROBERT.94Oct30115243@steffi.dircon.co.uk> CC: nsysdbj@acs.ncsu.edu,radvand@gb.swissbank.com >>>>> "RN" == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk> writes: RN>FCC: ~/Mail/postings RN>X-Newsreader: GNUS4.1:RFC 977, 1036, 822 compliant RN>Has anybody gotten dsql's -w option working correctly? RN>isql works fine but dsql's -w doesn't appear to be working. RN>-- RN> "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" RN> (ASCII for text only messages) It would appear that DBLB400 doesn't support DBPRLINELEN in dbsetopts which dsql uses to tell if this functionality is applicable... so this isn't possible... -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printers for black hrdware Date: 30 Oct 1994 16:43:37 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <390ifp$obc@news.delphi.com> Summary: need drivers for non standard printers Keywords: printers I would like to use an HP 500 series inkjet with my black hardware. Is there any place to get the software required to drive such a printer? What other printers can I use that wont cost me 800$? Any advice would be great. Thanks... Please respond to kochab@delphi.com
From: rascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gaudette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CryptorBundle Qs Date: 30 Oct 1994 12:06:50 -0500 Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada Message-ID: <390jra$1n1@ocean.CAM.ORG> Hi all, I have just installed CryptorBundle and after doing a little testing, a few things are a bit unclear... (BTW, I am using version 1.1 -- the readme for 1.2 implied that there were no changes except for being trifat.) -> Outgoing encrypted messages are sent out as NeXTmail even though I have "non-NeXTmail" set in my preferences and the send button does *not* have the NeXTmail triangle on it when I hit it... Is there any way to turn this off? -> Does the bundle provide a (GUI) way to check digital signatures on messages? Will it be done automagically? -> What about signing an outgoing message? -> BTW, is there a way in Mail.app to add headers to outgoing messages (like "Path: 3") for use with stuff like premail by Raph Levien(*)? *: Premail is a mail client for Unix workstations, supporting PGP encryption and anonymous remailers. Thanks for any help, --- Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette rascal@cam.org / rascal@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: smcintyre@whoi.edu (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: Re: IRC app for NeXT? Message-ID: <CyHz9u.LDt@netnews.whoi.edu> Sender: scott@pearl.whoi.edu Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution References: <38roai$1o1@news.iastate.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 17:58:42 GMT In article <38roai$1o1@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu writes: > > Is there any type of irc app out for NeXT and if so, where is it? > Someone in germany made a nextstep interface to IRC a few years ago, but this was before the servers went through a massive change -- thus it no longer works. Given the fact that the ircd server is about to change radically again, I doubt that ayone is bothering with a NS interface at this time. I use screen and ircII most of the time...if I really want a silly UI I'll go run Homer or Ircle on a mac... (Of course, if you want a sensible UI you run Zircon on X on a NeXT) Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Message-ID: <CyI9uJ.33y@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:47:07 GMT Hi. Does anyone know if there are any Hebrew fonts (or even better - a hebrew word-processor) available for the NeXT ? Thanks, Oren. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oren Golan Computer Science Department University of Otago, Dunedin, New-Zealand. Phone: (03) 479 8347 Fax: (03) 479 8529 e-mail: oreng@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Hardware flow control and C-Kermit 5A(189) Message-ID: <1994Oct30.182026.3170@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <38upjt$11on@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:20:26 GMT In article <38upjt$11on@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: }~ Does anybody remember what needs to be changed to compile }~ C-Kermit5A(189) to support hardware flow control? I seem }~ to remember this being discussed a long while ago. }~ Will this kermit version even work with hardware flow control? Unless I'm gravely mistaken, CKermit 5A(189) and 5A(190) work just fine with hardware flow control, provided you hand them the cufa/cufb device. set flow-control none in .kermrc to avoid doubling up with other forms of flow control. Good for 2.1, 3.1, 3.2 - black. Others? --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is color poss in NS/FIP on Tseng ET4000 W32p chipset? Date: 30 Oct 1994 17:14:43 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410302311.AA26307@PCS.CNU.EDU> I reinstalled NeXTSTEP the other day, and now have a Hercules Dynamite Power 2mb VLB (read: 2mb) (I removed my Wingine) -- tell me, is it poss. to get color on this board in NS?? If so, where is the driver?? I seem to get either 8-bit or 2-bit grey (not sure which, looks like 2-bit) in what looks like 1024x768 res. It's ok...but I would like 12-bit color again. I *DO* have 2mb on the board. Anyone point me to some drivers up to my needs, or is this "it"? bp
From: jao@itd.dsto.gov.au (John O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Running Notes under Nextstep Date: 26 Oct 1994 00:03:45 GMT Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation Message-ID: <38k6d1$k37@fang.dsto.gov.au> Hi, I'm having problems running Lotus Notes under Nextstep. Specifically, I'm running Nextstep v3.2 on an Intel PC. I've tried running Lotus Notes under SoftPC, but can't get past the setup stage. My Nextstep machine is on the same network as some Windows PCs and I'm using the same setup that worked under Windows. I think there is a problem between the Notes network DLL and SoftPCs implementation of Novell network support. Has anyone else experienced these problems and found a work-around? Alternatively, I could run Lotus Notes under X-Windows. Does anyone know of an X-Windows emulator that works on the Intel version of Nextstep. Many thanks for your help. John O'Neill DSTO C3 Research Centre Australia email: jao@itd.dsto.gov.au
From: adaniel@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Amirtham Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tech writer Date: 31 Oct 1994 03:57:54 GMT Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Message-ID: <391q02$onp@chaos.dac.neu.edu> Hi, Is anyone out there hiring technical writers? adaniel@lynx.dac.neu.edu
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Date: 31 Oct 1994 04:47:41 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <391std$2rc@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <CyI9uJ.33y@news.otago.ac.nz> Oren Golan writes > > Hi. > > Does anyone know if there are any Hebrew fonts (or even better - a hebrew > word-processor) available for the NeXT ? I've been looking for some for a long time. So far as I know, the only things around are Shalom (a bad serifed font and a TERRIBLE stick font and script font) and Hehen-Hebrew, both available on the usual NeXT sites (or I can mail them to you if they aren't). Hehen isn't too bad, but it comes with all of the characters assigned to hi-bit glyphs that are a pain to produce on the keyboard, and there are other problems with it that I don't understand. I hacked the afm file to put the characters back onto reasonable ASCII keys, but the font still occasionally causes the cursor in a text window to `get lost', so the metrics must be somewhat screwed up. I also suspect it of killing my WindowServer a few times.... If you look around with Archie, you will find things called deadsea.ps, telaviv.ps, jerusalem.ps, and oldjaffa.ps, but I don't know enough PostScript to even begin to know how to convert them into something that the NeXT can use. I spent a couple of days trying once, with some knowledgeable help, but got nowhere. Let me know if you do better! As for NeXTs in Israel, there will be at least one enthusiast there in a month or so, when a friend of mine takes a position at Hebrew University. When I was at the Weizmann in 1990-92, there was definitely not a single NeXT at Hebrew, Tel Aviv, Weizmann, or the Technion, but that may well have changed by now. By the way, the last time I was in NZ, there was just barely a Jewish community in Auckland and Wellington. How many of us are there on the South Island now?? _._ _ _ ___ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _._ ___ _ Joshua W. Burton | |( ' ) |.| . | ( ' ) | | | | | | \ )( ( ) | | | (401)435-6370 | | )_/ | |___|_ )_/ /|_| | | __)/ \_)/ || | burton@het.brown.edu | .. . - `. :
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica on HP Date: 31 Oct 1994 08:34:55 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <392a7f$gk@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <38u756$eik@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <38u756$eik@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: : In article <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu : (Paul Marshall Cardon II) writes: : : > A contact at Wolfram informed me that a triple-FAT version WILL be : > available. It won't be for some time however. : : Does you mean by this that Wolfram is going to change their policy of : selling their software in single binary format and licensed to only one : particular hardware ethernet address? Would I actually be able to change : my hardware without jumping through loops to get new codes and/or new : binaries? Wolfram has in the past been so anal about this, that I find : the news hard to believe. Anal is about how I would describe it too. As far as that changing..., probably not. I have a single copy of the software installed on NFS-mounted directories for a network of machines. I still have to put a key for each machine in the license file. I doubt this will change even with an MAB Mathematica. And yes, the ethernet address does figure in to the key generated for each machine. I won't even tell you how I found this out and how much trouble it gave me. :-( -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: expect 5.10 Date: 31 Oct 1994 09:45:25 GMT Organization: Swiss Meteorological Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <392eblINNq8@maz4.sma.ch> Hello ! Has anybody succeeded building the version 5.10 of expect ? I am running NS3.2/M68k. I downloaded expect 5.10, ran the configure script and started make. I got the fatal compilation error while compiling routine exp_command: request for member "..." in something not a structure or union Any help welcomed Jean-Marie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Message-ID: <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:06:35 GMT In article <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> writes: |In article <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> |therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: |> I am looking for a simple TIFF to GIF converter. | |OmniImage is doing what you requested (it also has a lot of other formats |built in). OmniImage (3.0.1) can SaveTo TIFF format only, although it can display GIF, among many others. |If you have to convert a larger number of bitmaps I suggest to use the |ImageMagic package which has a command-line-interface The only ImageMagic I find seems to be an X package. PixelMagician seems to be the only one I know of which can convert just about any format to any other. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.0 UpgradePrep.app please ? Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 11:13:11 Organization: University of Southampton Message-ID: <rjh.14.000B38A3@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Would anyone be kind enough and either post to me, or allow me to FTP, the UpgradePrep.app for NS 3.0 as I haven't got a floppy drive connected to my NeXT, and there is no one in the university, as far as I know, who has a NeXT so I can't upgrade over the network either. Cheers Rupert. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rupert Hollom, Interactive Learning Centre, E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk Building 32, University of Southampton, Highfield, URL - http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html Southampton, SO17 1BJ, U.K. Phone : (0703) 594472, Fax : (0703) 592082
From: larson@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov (Teresa A Larson) Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: dsql's (1.3) -w (row width) not working on NeXT Date: 31 Oct 1994 14:57:28 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3930kp$ppf@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <ROBERT.94Oct30115243@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <ROBERT.94Oct30115243@steffi.dircon.co.uk>, robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: |> FCC: ~/Mail/postings |> X-Newsreader: GNUS4.1:RFC 977, 1036, 822 compliant |> |> Has anybody gotten dsql's -w option working correctly? |> |> isql works fine but dsql's -w doesn't appear to be working. It's working fine for me. I'm running dsql.c,v 2.4 1993/11/29 on SunOS 4.1.3. Teresa Larson +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Teresa A. Larson - Hughes STX Corporation | | NASA/GSFC Code 933.0 voice: (301) 286-7867 | | Greenbelt, Maryland 20771 fax: (301) 286-1777 | | Teresa.Larson@gsfc.nasa.gov | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ Standard disclaimer ...
From: tmarrs@wiltel.com (Terry Marrs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb and .mov files Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:22:41 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <3935kh$9s7@gateway.wiltel.com> What app(if any) will play the .mov files I got? -- |Terry Marrs |terry_marrs@wiltel.com |WilTel | NeXTmail OK
From: reuven@the-tech.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:22:57 GMT Organization: The Tech, MIT's oldest and largest newspaper Message-ID: <REUVEN.94Oct31112257@the-tech.mit.edu> References: <CyI9uJ.33y@news.otago.ac.nz> <391std$2rc@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> In-reply-to: burton@het.brown.edu's message of 31 Oct 1994 04:47:41 GMT >>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua W Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> writes: Joshua> I've been looking for some for a long time. So far as I Joshua> know, the only things around are Shalom (a bad serifed font Joshua> and a TERRIBLE stick font and script font) and Hehen-Hebrew, Joshua> both available on the usual NeXT sites (or I can mail them Joshua> to you if they aren't). Two companies that produce Hebrew fonts are: Linguists' Software, Inc. Office: (206) 775-1130 Office: P.O.Box 580 Edmonds, WA 98020-0580 notes: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Ecological Linguistics Office: (202) 546-5862 Office: PO Box 15156 Washington, DC 20003 notes: Hebrew fonts for NeXT These companies specialize in Mac and Windows fonts, but will put whatever you want on NeXT-formatted diskettes. I haven't yet bought from them, so I can't vouch for the quality or service, but the sample pages I saw looked reasonable. (Not beautiful, but good enough for most work.) I believe that buying all of the Hebrew fonts from both of these companies would cost around $250, but you'll want to check with them just to be sure. I asked Greg Anderson (of Anderson Financial Systems, the WriteUp/PasteUp folks) whether there was any chance of getting right-to-left text insertion in upcoming versions. His response indicated that it wouldn't be that hard to do, but that it's not high on their list of priorities -- although that could change if a large potential account were to request it. Joshua> As for NeXTs in Israel, there will be at least one Joshua> enthusiast there in a month or so, when a friend of mine Joshua> takes a position at Hebrew University. I will probably move to Israel at the end of summer '95, and expect to bring my color slab with me. So hey, there might soon be a handful of us! Reuven
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printers for black hrdware Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:39:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <393a52$fev@potogold.rmii.com> References: <390ifp$obc@news.delphi.com> In article <390ifp$obc@news.delphi.com> kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) writes: > I would like to use an HP 500 series inkjet with my black hardware. > Is there any place to get the software required to drive such a printer? > What other printers can I use that wont cost me 800$? > > Any advice would be great. Thanks... > > Please respond to kochab@delphi.com The DOTS line of non-PostScript printer drivers is available from OpenSource, Inc. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Image Editors & Word Process Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:44:26 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <393adq$fh7@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CyGoxx.C6J@eskimo.com> In article <CyGoxx.C6J@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > I am interested in processing graphics with text. Preferring to edit > images more than create them, WetPaint appeals to me more than > something like Virtuoso. I have yet to determine which file > format(such as .eps or .tiff) offers the most versatility. Is > WetPaint a good choice? Or should I consider another application > before making my decision? There's a chance that I'll be selecting > PasteUp for text processing if I decide I can work with it without > excessive effort. > -- > >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< > >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for word processing and graphics packages >< Both WetPaint and TIFFany II are excellent image manipulation applications. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Form creation software Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:53:07 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <393au3$fj2@potogold.rmii.com> References: <38rak7$b7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <38rak7$b7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: > Is there any form creating software out there? > Ideally, I'd like to be able to have something that would be > able to create any kind of custom form, and also be able to > open up the form, enter stuff, print, save, etc... > > Moving towards paperless operation... > Eugene > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) > Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little > Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother > University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Perhaps PapyrusForms from Ensuing Technologies might be what you need. Let me know if you'd like some information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOS or MS-Windows emulation software needed! Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:54:10 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <393b02$fj9@potogold.rmii.com> References: <38pava$ove@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> In article <38pava$ove@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> se11@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Eligulashvili) writes: > > Hi there, > I'm looking for DOS or MS-Windows emulation software. > Can anyone tell me where I can get it? > > Thanks, > /Simon SoftPC by Insignia is the solution. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Message-ID: <CyJpCp.E9o@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 16:19:36 GMT In article <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > In article <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> > writes: > |In article <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> > |therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > |> I am looking for a simple TIFF to GIF converter. > | > |OmniImage is doing what you requested (it also has a lot of other formats > |built in). > > OmniImage (3.0.1) can SaveTo TIFF format only, although it can display GIF, > among many others. > > |If you have to convert a larger number of bitmaps I suggest to use the > |ImageMagic package which has a command-line-interface > > The only ImageMagic I find seems to be an X package. > > PixelMagician seems to be the only one I know of which can convert just about > any format to any other. > Since we're on the topic of image format conversion, has anybody heard of the .vip format? Mario
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica on HP Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:32:26 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <393d7q$cm2@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <392a7f$gk@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <392a7f$gk@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) writes: >In article <38u756$eik@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd >Takken) writes: >: In article <38q96d$l6j@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu >: (Paul Marshall Cardon II) writes: >: > A contact at Wolfram informed me that a triple-FAT version WILL be >: > available. It won't be for some time however. >: Does you mean by this that Wolfram is going to change their policy of >: selling their software in single binary format and licensed to only one >: particular hardware ethernet addresss? >Anal is about how I would describe it too. As far as that changing..., >probably not. I have a single copy of the software installed on NFS-mounted >directories for a network of machines. I still have to put a key for each >machine in the license file. I doubt this will change even with an MAB >Mathematica. I believe Wolfram Res. now makes Mathematica available in two forms. A license tied to one machine, and a network license. I don't have a blurb from them anymore, but I recall that a network license costs about 2 to 3 times of the price of a single machine license. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ?NS3.2/FIP "Edit" app and NS2.2 rtfd files incompatible Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:05:50 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <393f6e$atl@gamera.umd.edu> Keywords: NS3.2/FIP,Edit,RTFD I have a document written on a NeXTstation/Turbo running NS2.2 using the "Edit" app and its in rtfd format. Inside the rtfd directory for this document I have the "TXT.rtf" file and about 10 or so .tiff files with images that are part of the document (included in certain places via Edit supplied \NeXTGraphic0 directives when I look there). This document works fine with Edit on my NS2.2 system, I can read and edit it. But when I tar it up and transport it to my NS3.2/FIP PC it doesn't... There, I open the document from the workspace browser, Edit comes up but I only see the first text-only page of the document, the first included graphic is not shown nor is anything else, Edit on the 3.2/FIP system just stops right there as if the document was only as large as the first page UP TO (but not including) that first inclusion; no errors are reported. I've tried converting the .tiff images to both .ps and .eps and changing the \NeXTGraphic0 directive in the TXT.rtf file to reflect the new file extension but no luck, same behaviour. What's up?!? Any insight into this MUCH appreciated! -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo, Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems, UMCEES/CBL Solomons
From: dougm@azrael (Douglas McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Virtspace FAT Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:38:02 GMT Organization: Abbott Laboratories Message-ID: <393dia$bd3@kelso.abbott.com> I am looking for a FAT version of Virtspace. The ones at the ftp sites do not seem to be fat. I tried contacting Nyro (who supposedly handles VirtSpace now) with a phone number that was given in a post a few weeks back, but that was a cellular number that is no longer in service. I would greatly appreciate any information on how to contact these folks. Thanks -doug
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gopher , WWW for NeXTSTEP? Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:53:10 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <393hv6$1co@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <MAGNAN.94Oct27162038@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> In article <MAGNAN.94Oct27162038@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes: > Is there any application for NeXTSTEP (3.2) that permits > to browse through WWW or gopher. I'm looking for a GUI > based app. Gopher.app is available at all the standard sites. OmniWeb.app is available at ftp.omnigroup.com. -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:54:55 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <393i2f$1dc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: > I thought I had heard that there was available a graphical HTML editor > for the NeXT; I also thought that it was part of OmniWeb, but looking > at OmniWeb (which is awesome, btw), I see that I'm wrong on at least > the latter issue. > > So, what's the deal? Is this functionality somewhere in OmniWeb? Is > it another app entirely? Did I dream all this up?! :-) http://etext.caltech.edu/eTextEngine.html http://scholar.lib.vt.edu -- --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Form creation software Date: 30 Oct 1994 23:21:38 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3919q2$l64@core.symnet.net> References: <38rak7$b7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Eugene Mah writes > Is there any form creating software out there? > Ideally, I'd like to be able to have something that would be > able to create any kind of custom form, and also be able to > open up the form, enter stuff, print, save, etc... > > Moving towards paperless operation... > Eugene I wrote a little app that does this. Although it only works with my own flat file DB format at the moment, and it only supports Form Text boxes for input at the moment. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: lambert@cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend Dock Tip Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:38:42 GMT Organization: C.C.S.O., University of Illinois Distribution: world Message-ID: <393o52$5r4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <38sjtf$4v1@panix.com> Just my 2 cents, but DAMN if FIEND isn't one of the coolest programs I've had the pleasure to use!! One helluva programmer.... -eil =-) --- ========================================================================= Eric Lambert ENE Division OR GIS Labratory/Geography P.O. Box 9005 318 Davenport Hall Champaign, IL 61826-9005 Urbana, IL 61801 E-mail:lambert@gis.uiuc.edu Lab#: (217) 333-5919 =========================================================================
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ?NS3.2/FIP "Edit" app and NS2.2 rtfd files incompatible Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:02:07 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <393m0f$op@rosie.next.com> References: <393f6e$atl@gamera.umd.edu> In article <393f6e$atl@gamera.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: # I have a document written on a NeXTstation/Turbo running NS2.2 using # the "Edit" app and its in rtfd format. Inside the rtfd directory for # this document I have the "TXT.rtf" file and about 10 or so .tiff # files with images that are part of the document (included in certain # places via Edit supplied \NeXTGraphic0 directives when I look there). # This document works fine with Edit on my NS2.2 system, I can read and # edit it. But when I tar it up and transport it to my NS3.2/FIP PC it # doesn't... There, I open the document from the workspace browser, # Edit comes up but I only see the first text-only page of the # document, the first included graphic is not shown nor is anything # else, Edit on the 3.2/FIP system just stops right there as if the # document was only as large as the first page UP TO (but not # including) that first inclusion; no errors are reported. I've tried # converting the .tiff images to both .ps and .eps and changing the # \NeXTGraphic0 directive in the TXT.rtf file to reflect the new file # extension but no luck, same behaviour. What's up?!? To be honest, this doesn't make much sense. I open RTF files from 2.X days all the time. How are you transporting the files to the 3.2 system? I think it's more likely that your transport mechanism is clobbering the file. joe
From: cjb@vega.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Daydream -- invasion of the body snatchers Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:12:59 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <393mkr$kag@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Does anyone have or know of "daydream" by QUIX Computerware AG of Switzerland? Its a package of software and a board that converts a NeXT into a virtual Macintosh running non-modified System 7. I'd like to know where I could get it, how much it is, and if there are any limitations in which Mac applications can be run.
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:10:29 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <393bul$npl@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CyJpCp.E9o@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> In article <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > In article <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> > writes: > |In article <1994Oct25.131735.18589@umiami.ir.miami.edu> > |therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > |> I am looking for a simple TIFF to GIF converter. > | > |OmniImage is doing what you requested (it also has a lot of other > | formats built in). > > OmniImage (3.0.1) can SaveTo TIFF format only, although it can > display GIF, among many others. Strange, the copy of OmniImage 3.0.1 that I have claims to save to: tiff, gif, bmp, cur, ico, icon, mpnt, pict, taac, pbm, pgm, ppm, pnm, rpbm, rpgm, rppm, rpnm, hdf, pcx, pic, pix, ras, rgb, rla, rle, synu, tga, viff, x, xbm, and xwd. You can find OmniImage at ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software. OmniImage doesn't really have many other features besides reading, writing, and displaying lots of different image types (but then, what do you expect for free?) :-). If you need an app with more features, you might want to look elsewhere: > PixelMagician seems to be the only one I know of which can convert just > about any format to any other. -Greg -------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: DOS or MS-Windows emulation software needed! Organization: Madge Networks Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:39:29 GMT Message-ID: <CyJ6tu.Jxw@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <38pava$ove@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Simon Eligulashvili (se11@namaste.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : I'm looking for DOS or MS-Windows emulation software. : Can anyone tell me where I can get it? If you can get hold of the CDs the OS came on, you should be able to find a demo copy of SoftPC. Warning: if you're running on Intel, the demo SoftPC is an old very buggy version, but it'll give you an idea of the real thing.
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit on Intel? (MultiSound DSP) Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:11:46 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <394142$laa@cobber.cord.edu> References: <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu> <38ntf3$29ck@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <38ntf3$29ck@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, Markus Wenzel <wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: > >In article <38nboe$j06@news.bu.edu>, bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: >> >>Does the recently released MusicKit work with white hardware, or is it >>exclusively for the black hardware/DSP... ? > >It works if you buy a DSP card for Intel (TurtleBeach, ilink and Ariel >are supported). You will find more information about these boards in >the MuiscKit readme file. I read the files but I couldn't figure out if the TurtleBeach MultiSound support included both the original MultiSound and the MultiSound Monterey. Also, I'm not sure if it is only the DSP on the MultiSound that is supported or if its MIDI is also supported. I've wanted to get the MultiSound for the last 3 years but now NeXTStep and DSP support via MiscKit is a compelling reason to finally get it. >-- >// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // -jon -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wormhole.cord.edu (NeXTmail, and soon MIME)
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTIME? Date: 1 Nov 1994 03:10:45 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <394bjl$gi8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Apparently next has released some sort of QuickTime like facilities for nexts called NeXTTIME. I just checked NextAnswers and it doesn't have ant information on NextTime. Is NextTime real and how does one get it? I first heard about it by a reference to it on ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/graphics/QuickTime1.0-CDlinks.ReadMe Thanks Jessica Hayden Dept. Chemistry, University of Wisconsin - Madison hayden@swamp.chem.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: dimitri@duti614b.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 feature list Message-ID: <CyL1A5.7DC@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration) Organization: Delft University of Technology Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:34:52 GMT Many of you asked for NS3.3 feature list. Here it is. To receive the complete document in RTF format, mail to NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM with subject 1706 NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.3 UPGRADE [ introduction deleted ] NEW FEATURES AND BENEFITS --Mail-- MIME Support As a widely supported standard, MIME support enables NEXTSTEP users to exchange mutimedia e-mail with other non-NeXT MIME users. Through the same intuitive NeXTmail interface, users can transparently read and send messages containing file attachments, rich text, images and sound objects. Mail Size Management Information such as the number of read and deleted messages, size of each message, and the number of new messages is now easily accessible. Users can also quickly locate large e-mail messages through the feature sorting by size. These features greatly simplify the task of overall mailbox size management. Selective & Summary Printing Users can now print out the summary of an entire mailbox or a group of selected messages. This feature enables users to manage their e-mail messages off-line when necessary. Enhanced Searching In addition to searching by subject and sender, users can now locate mail by searching through the message body. A new Focus feature makes it more efficient to navigate and view only the selected messages. After several iterations of Find and Focus, users can quickly filter all non-relevant messages. Save & Restore Drafts Similar to a word processing document, partially composed unsent messages can be saved and brought back with the subject and address fields intact. Users can now begin composing multiple messages and use this feature to preserve work-in-progress from accidental lossor to conveniently come back to it at a later time. Outgoing Message Archive In addition to automatic archival of all outgoing messages, users who are concerned with disk space can selectively archive specific messages. In-line Address Completion By typing the first few letters of an address in the To field and pressing the Esc key, NeXTmail will automatically scroll through the possible options from the list of public and private users and groups. This feature reduces the number of keystrokes and the frequency of access to the Address panel. Hierarchical Mailboxes Mailboxes in Release 3.3 can now be organized into a tree-like hierarchy. Messages stored in a meaningful structure of mailboxes gain relevance through their implicit association with folder names. Retrieval of messages can also be faster by simply navigating through the hierarchy. User Defined Fields Custom fields can now be added to a message header to label outgoing messages. For instance, a user can label a message with a field called priority and set it to high or low. This allows recipients to quickly identify important messages. New Productivity tools The mail icon now displays the number of unread messages in the Active mailbox. In addition, users can manage the incoming mail workload by individually marking messages in any mailbox as read or unread. --Networking-- NetInfo The only proven enterprise-wide network administration database. NetInfo now supports 10,000+ nodes across wide-area networks which enables corporations to grow their NEXTSTEP networks globally without sacrificing data integrity or network performance. Other new features include integrated DNS support and improved diagnostic messages. UserManager The tool for managing user accounts and user groups has been updated to support large corporate networks. With the new bulk add-and-delete feature, system administrators can manage thousands of user accounts using custom templates and domain-based settings. Support for international user accounts is also provided through templates. In addition, UserManager can be customized to perform specific task through APIs. This feature allows system administrators to add or override default functionalities to tailor UserManager to the needs of their sites. NetInfoManager The graphical tool for accessing and manipulating NetInfo databases has been dramatically improved. Administrative tasks are simpler, allowing the system-administrator to dynamically restart NetInfo services, save and restore NetInfo databases, or join NetInfo hierarchies. The user interface has been improved to ensure ease-of-use throughout the application. Searching in NetInfo data is more efficient with Multi-domain and regular-expression search. Remote Server Management allows the system-administrator to comprehensively manage resources from any part of the network. SimpleNetworkStarter The simple but powerful tool for setting up small networks of NEXTSTEP computers has been extended to include NetInfo Configuration across subnets and SNMP configurations. All transactions are fully logged. The undo feature allows dynamic configuration changes. Networking Commands NetInfo data can be accessed and manipulated via a variety of new and extended set of UNIX utilities. Niutil's new options provide a full set of data-management features, including resync, rename, and statistics options. Nigrep, nifind, and nireport complement the existing NetInfo utilities to provide full search and report capabilities in a multi-domain environment. BSD 4.4 Networking New gateway congestion and header prediction algorithms improve overall network performance, especially in large networks that include bridges and routers. In addition, IP Multi-Cast support has been added to provide the framework for multimedia networking. --OS-- MACH 3.0 Core components of MACH 3.0 have been integrated into Release 3.3 to improve the robustness and performance of the operating system, especially under heavy load. --Intel Enablement-- PCMCIA NEXTSTEP users can now take advantage of PCMCIA modems, SCSI adaptors, LAN cards, and wireless networking cards both for portable and desktop systems. ISA Plug & Play On a system with the ISA Plug & Play BIOS, NEXTSTEP automatically configures ISA Plug & Play cards bypassing the need to deal with jumpers, switches, and configuration utilities. PCI Plug & Play Similar to ISA Plug & Play, NEXTSTEP automatically configures PCI cards. Advance Power Management By taking advantage of power saving features on systems that support the APM BIOS, NEXTSTEP now operates efficiently on portable systems for an extended amount of time. 720K Floppy In addition to 1.44 megabyte floppy support, NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 also supports 720k. More Drivers NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 comes bundled with over 50 drivers to support a wide variety of peripheral cards and systems. --Installations & Upgrades-- Network Install User can now install NEXTSTEP through a network NFS server without requiring a CD-ROM drive. System Administrators can also preconfigure a template server so that all systems built from the server inherit the same configurations. This greatly reduces the overhead of installing NEXTSTEP at large sites. Network Bulk Upgrade The Upgrader application now enables system administrators to pre-configure template servers and propagate upgrades from these servers to designated NEXTSTEP systems. In effect, this allows system administrators to push upgrades automatically onto systems on the network without the need for any user intervention. Learning Tools NEXTSTEP Quick Start: By stepping through this small manual, users can quickly learn all the basics of NEXTSTEP and be productive within 30 minutes. Power Tips & Documentation Roadmap The power user's guide contains a comprehensive list of short cuts and tips for the Workspace and bundled applications. A new on-line & hardcopy roadmap helps novice users to easily and quickly navigate through existing documentation. --Internationalization-- Global Software NEXTSTEP can be customized at setup or installation time to provide global settings for keyboards, paper sizes, time zones, etc. This allows users to tailor their environment to specific local needs. Key globalization features include updates to Preferences.app and Configure.app. International Installation Users can now select which language needs to be installed at the package level. Instead of installing a specific language for all of NEXTSTEP, users have a choice of installing specific languages for each Installer package similar to Installer's support for different platforms. Users with limited disk space now have greater flexibility in the installation of packages. This feature applies to Upgrader, CD Installation (e.g., BuildDisk), as well as the Installer. ORDERING INFORMATION NEXTSTEP includes all user environment system software, the end-user oriented applications, runtime portions of the object-oriented kits, system administration applications, and assorted other software. NEXTSTEP includes English, French, German, Spanish, Swedish, and Italian user interfaces. End-user documentation is available in English, French, and German. The entire NEXTSTEP user environment comes on a single CD-ROM. Installation of NEXTSTEP requires a minimum of 120 MB of available hard disk space. NeXT Telesales is now taking orders for upgrades to NEXTSTEP User 3.3 for Intel and Motorola processors. For additional product information or to order, please contact NeXT Telesales in North America at 1-800-848-NeXT. Visa and Mastercard accepted, plus shipping/handling and applicable state sales tax. Please have serial number of previous version available. International ordering procedures to be determined by early November. NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5683) - Motorola $199 NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5659) - Intel $199 Orders placed before December 16, 1994, will receive a complimentary copy of NEXTIME, a $99 value. NEXTIME is NeXT's entry into time-based digital media for corporate customers interested in video applications. In its first release, NEXTIME provides NEXTSTEP users the ability to play movie files. NEXTIME supports the industry-standard QuickTime file format and Cinepak compression scheme. Future releases will add support for recording movies using video capture cards, as well as additional file formats and compression schemes. NEXTSTEP upgrades are scheduled to ship mid-December 1994. For additional information, call 1-800-TRY-NeXT NeXT Computer, Inc. U.S. Headquarters European Headquarters 900 Chesapeake Drive Oskar Messter Strasse 24 Redwood City, CA94063 W 8045 Ismaning Munich Germany +49 (89) 99 65 31-0 [ postamble deleted ] --Dimitri -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | NeGeN | | Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland | | Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe | | and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Transsys PNI kernel driver not running? Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 22:19:44 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct30.221944.11727@cyantic.com> -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CyJ27n.38s@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. References: <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 07:59:46 GMT In article <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: > > Hello, netland! > > I thought I had heard that there was available a graphical HTML editor > for the NeXT; I also thought that it was part of OmniWeb, but looking > at OmniWeb (which is awesome, btw), I see that I'm wrong on at least > the latter issue. > > So, what's the deal? Is this functionality somewhere in OmniWeb? Is > it another app entirely? Did I dream all this up?! :-) The only graphical HTML editor I know of is called HTML-Editor.app. The latest version (I think, since that's what I have) is 0.3. It's pretty complete. It even includes support for forms. You can find it via FTP at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de or better yet, point OmniWeb to ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next. Good luck. --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Date: 1 Nov 1994 14:06:14 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <395i0m$rdp@pong.ping.at> References: <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Originator: wa@s051 In article <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > |If you have to convert a larger number of bitmaps I suggest to use the > |ImageMagic package which has a command-line-interface > > The only ImageMagic I find seems to be an X package. Yes, that's right. But while you can't display images withouth an X-Server the "convert"-utility also runs as a command-line-only program and does not need X to convert bitmaps. -- Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690 A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817 Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Virtspace FAT Date: 1 Nov 1994 15:25:35 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <395mlf$cfu@potogold.rmii.com> References: <393dia$bd3@kelso.abbott.com> In article <393dia$bd3@kelso.abbott.com> dougm@azrael (Douglas McClure) writes: > I am looking for a FAT version of Virtspace. The ones at the ftp sites do > not seem to be fat. I tried contacting Nyro (who supposedly handles > VirtSpace now) with a phone number that was given in a post a few weeks > back, but that was a cellular number that is no longer in service. > > I would greatly appreciate any information on how to contact these folks. > > Thanks > > -doug VirtSpace is available from OpenSource, Inc. It ships MAB. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: Running Notes under Nextstep Organization: Madge Networks Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:28:34 GMT Message-ID: <CyL6Jn.FK5@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <38k6d1$k37@fang.dsto.gov.au> John O'Neill (jao@itd.dsto.gov.au) wrote: : I've tried running Lotus Notes under SoftPC, but can't get past the setup : stage. My Nextstep machine is on the same network as some Windows PCs and : I'm using the same setup that worked under Windows. I think there is a : problem between the Notes network DLL and SoftPCs implementation of Novell : network support. Has anyone else experienced these problems and found a : work-around? I have seen Lotus Notes working over LAN Workplace on a beta version of SoftPC 4.0. I'm not sure if that version has been formally released - it might be a good idea to ring Insignia. I can't remember whether it ran with SoftPC 3.11, but in any case, Novell performance is much improved in 4.0, so you probably want it in any case. : Alternatively, I could run Lotus Notes under X-Windows. Does anyone know : of an X-Windows emulator that works on the Intel version of Nextstep. Buy SoftPC 4.0. The X version of Notes looks awful!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: OmniWeb and .mov files Message-ID: <rbzCyLtF6.FG9@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3935kh$9s7@gateway.wiltel.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 19:42:42 GMT tmarrs@wiltel.com (Terry Marrs) writes: >What app(if any) will play the .mov files I got? NeXTTime! The .mov file is a quicktime movie. -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? In-Reply-To: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu's message of 27 Oct 1994 22:11:28 GMT To: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Nov1190828@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <38p8ig$8js@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:08:28 GMT On 27 Oct 1994 22:11:28 GMT, David A Sinclair (DAS) wrote: DAS> I thought I had heard that there was available a graphical HTML editor DAS> for the NeXT; I also thought that it was part of OmniWeb, but looking DAS> at OmniWeb (which is awesome, btw), I see that I'm wrong on at least DAS> the latter issue. DAS> DAS> So, what's the deal? Is this functionality somewhere in OmniWeb? Is DAS> it another app entirely? Did I dream all this up?! :-) DAS> DAS> Many thanks for any pointers, Here you are: Look for HTML-Editor at your local NeXT archive. You can use OmniWeb for previewing the document you're working on. Most recent version I know is 0.3, e.g. at ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/apps/ HTML-Editor.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Running Notes under Nextstep Organization: P & L Systems References: <CyL6Jn.FK5@madge1.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:35:55 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov1.203555.21227@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <CyL6Jn.FK5@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) writes: > John O'Neill (jao@itd.dsto.gov.au) wrote: > : I've tried running Lotus Notes under SoftPC, but can't get past the setup > : stage. My Nextstep machine is on the same network as some Windows PCs and > : I'm using the same setup that worked under Windows. I think there is a > : problem between the Notes network DLL and SoftPCs implementation of Novell > : network support. Has anyone else experienced these problems and found a > : work-around? > > I have seen Lotus Notes working over LAN Workplace on a beta version of > SoftPC 4.0. I'm not sure if that version has been formally released - > it might be a good idea to ring Insignia. We have run it with Notes using IPX, under the old version of SoftPC (which we distribute in the UK, BTW). Our configuration was completely standard. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
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From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> Control: cancel <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> Date: 1 Nov 1994 16:04:47 -0500 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <396ahf$2rk@sgate.com> <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.7.5 proxy Date: 1 Nov 1994 16:06:09 -0500 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <396ak1$2sn@sgate.com> References: <38p0sv$i6a@sgate.com> <CyDynx.xF@xexos.com> <38rhmt$sf4@sgate.com> <CEDMAN.94Oct29115408@freedom.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Oct29115408@freedom.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >At least for me the CERN httpd certainly does. That particular URL >seems to fail, but lots of other gopher and ftp URLs work through the >CERN proxy. > Carl Edman I found out right after I posted the article you replied to that you must make ALL proxies http://host.name/. A proxy of gopher://host.name/ tries to connect to the gopher server on host.name, which I don't have. If you make everything use http for the proxy, the proxy server (mine's CERN's too) does the translations for you. Pretty neat. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: rthurman@math.lsa.umich.edu (Robert Thurman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ;CDPlayer and NS3.2 Date: 1 Nov 1994 21:23:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <396bke$8p0@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Originator: rthurman@brador.math.lsa.umich.edu I'm having trouble running the CDPlayer demo app that came with our NS3.2 upgrade. In the release notes we are told that the application will not be able to locate the CDROM and we can NOT launch the application manually (by double-clicking on the icon) if SCSI IDs 0 and 1 are both in use. This is precisely our situation: we have an external hard drive, which we are using as boot drive, and this requires SCSI ID 0. The internal drive is SCSI 1. CDPlayer bombs as predicted. The release notes go on to say that we should be able to autolaunch CDPlayer by simply sticking in an audio CD, as long as we enable Window Server, or some such animal, from the Preferences menu (this is under the Unix icon in Preferences). I tried this, but CDPlayer still bombs -- I can watch in the Console as the operating system fruitlessly attempts to identify the offending matter in the drive. Suggestions? Hints? Sympathy?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: katzlbt@necs (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Message-ID: <1994Nov1.214059.23558@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: Vanderbilt University References: <394bjl$gi8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:40:59 GMT Jessica Hayden (hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu) wrote: : Apparently next has released some sort of QuickTime like facilities for nexts : called NeXTTIME. I just checked NextAnswers and it doesn't have ant : information on NextTime. Is NextTime real and how does one get it? : I first heard about it by a reference to it on ftp.cs.orst.edu : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/graphics/QuickTime1.0-CDlinks.ReadMe : Thanks : Jessica Hayden : Dept. Chemistry, University of Wisconsin - Madison : hayden@swamp.chem.wisc.edu try getting info from: http://www.stepwise.com/ http://www.digifix.com/ With a mosaic client. cat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Message-ID: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Canada Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 02:48:34 GMT Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? Comments? Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Where is the latest MUX Driver? Message-ID: <damonc.12.0015D319@damonc.aetnacan.com> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Canada Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 02:49:19 GMT The version I have is 1.4, and there are some problems with NXFax and UUCP...is there a later version somewhere? Thanks in advance, Damon F. Cooper
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Nov1171815@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:18:15 GMT I am using Transys pni 1.11 and when I want to hang up I do /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -d -c down pni0 When I am logged in as root it works well but no other user can do it. I get a message like: "Can't find pnid deamon, Is it running?" What am I doing wrong? Thank you, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for author of "Desktop", sieu@pasteur.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Date: 1 Nov 1994 23:14:41 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <396i51$1a2@aisun.aiinet.com> I found a virtual desktop manager "Desktop" in the archives, which is an m68k only binary. I can't find an Intel binary, and mail to sieu@pasteur.EECS.Berkeley.EDU is a soon to be delete student account. Does anyone know more about Desktop or sieu? John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:457-NeXT, w:798-2000x2162 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] [\]DIVER[\] Don't FLAME, inform!
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: audio mpeg viewer? Date: 1 Nov 1994 23:36:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <396jd4$9fm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is there any software around that allows me to listen to or convert audio mpeg files? Thanks, -- Gottfried Mayer-Kress Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org, gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice/fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg) URLs: http://www.santafe.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 1 Nov 1994 16:59:18 -0700 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com) wrote: : Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? : Comments? : Damon F. Cooper : damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net And is it still a "Windows in a window" emulator, or will it run Windoze apps rootless, a la Co-Xist, etc.? .....................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
From: wlod@mcs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 2 Nov 1994 00:23:00 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <396m54$f69@News1.mcs.com> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> In article <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? > If Insignia's ad in Openstep Solutions is to be believed, 4.0 has been released. Per the ad: "To order SoftPC 4.0 or to get an evaluation copy, call now! (508) 682-7600" -- --Steve Wlodkowski wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.0 UpgradePrep.app please ? Date: 1 Nov 1994 19:42:16 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941102014207.262AACUQ.malc@jeeves> References: <rjh.14.000B38A3@ecs.soton.ac.uk> > Would anyone be kind enough and either post to me, or allow me to FTP, the > UpgradePrep.app for NS 3.0 as I haven't got a floppy drive connected to my > NeXT, and there is no one in the university, as far as I know, who has a NeXT > so I can't upgrade over the network either. > Let me know if you still need it: I can NeXTMail it to you or put it somewhere from whence you can ftp it. Have fun, mmalcolm. posn. research facilitator where institute for language speech and hearing sheffield university c/o department of computer science regent court 211 portobello street sheffield s1 4dp england vox (+44) 114 282 5569 fax (+44) 114 278 0972 email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTmail Date: 1 Nov 1994 17:38:09 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <396qi1$eee@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> I have a pretty good hack for downloading NeXTmail from my non-NeXTmail dialup account. It easily allows receipt of NeXTmail, which is a real boon. The problem comes with outgoing NeXTmail. So, the solution may be not too difficult, if I knew where NeXTmail queues the outgoing (what file?). Then it would be simply a matter of uploading the file that contains the queued mail, and then sending it out as an enclosure in Pine or something similiar. So, again, does anyone know where the mail sits in NeXTmail? Thanks, Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: kc@yucca.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Date: 1 Nov 1994 15:55:46 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <396ki2$lm0@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <38ti2r$icr@pong.ping.at> <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Michael Friendly (friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca) wrote: : OmniImage (3.0.1) can SaveTo TIFF format only, although it can display GIF, : among many others. OmniImage 3.0.1, in combination with OmniImageFilter 3.0, can write most of the foreign image formats it knows how to read (the three exceptions are IFF, JPEG, and RIB). If your copy of OmniImage doesn't let you save to any of 30+ image types on the popup on its save panel, it's not finding OmniImageFilter's "convertFromTIFF" services. (Make sure the latest version of OmniImageFilter is installed in ~/Library/Services or /LocalLibrary/Services, and do a "make_services" or "make_services debug".) Good luck! Ken Case
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: relative URLs in OmniWeb Message-ID: <CyLzq1.F52@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <380fkb$2p2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:58:49 GMT I wrote: | |>I'm developing some html documents on my machine which will eventually reside |>on another machine. I use relative URL pathnames throughout, in the form | |><IMG src="icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> |><H2><IMG src="icons/Lecture.tiff"> | |>for items in the icon directory beneath the directory of the document |>containing those references. I've also tried references in the form: |><IMG src="./icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> |><H2><IMG src="./icons/Lecture.tiff"> | |>I have no trouble viewing the icons from my own machine, but (using OmniWeb) |>when I access the copy of the document (SCS.html) on the 'real' host, I get: |>Fatal Error 401 Unauthorized Access Denied |>http://mathstat.yorku.ca/SCS/SCS.html/icons/SCSlogo.tiff | |>It appears that OmniWeb has taken it's pathname relative to the name of the |>current file, rather than to the directory in which it resides. | |>I don't know if this is a problem with OmniWeb, or with how I am specifying |>the URLs. Can anyone enlighten me? | I've determined that the form <IMG src="../icons/SCSlogo.tiff"> does work NB: ../ but this doesn't seem to be according to the HTML specs, unless I misread them. Is this an OmniWeb bug or not? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: summer@moon.bwl.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: rtf syntax for latex Date: 2 Nov 1994 11:00:32 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration Distribution: world Message-ID: <397rgg$g7n@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> can anybody give me some hint how i can use the rtf-syntax tool for nextstep to assign different colours to latex-commands in documents? i was told that in principle one has to program rtf via awk. but as a laiman this is quite AWKward for me. is there some helping hand out there? thanX martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF converter? Message-ID: <1994Nov2.102305.1032@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <CyJpCp.E9o@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> <393bul$npl@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:23:05 GMT In article <393bul$npl@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) writes: >In article <CyHzn0.4oD@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> >friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: >> >> OmniImage (3.0.1) can SaveTo TIFF format only, although it can >> display GIF, among many others. > >Strange, the copy of OmniImage 3.0.1 that I have claims to save to: >tiff, gif, bmp, cur, ico, icon, mpnt, pict, taac, pbm, pgm, ppm, pnm, >rpbm, rpgm, rppm, rpnm, hdf, pcx, pic, pix, ras, rgb, rla, rle, synu, >tga, viff, x, xbm, and xwd. Well I guess you should know, but my copy of OmniImage 3.0.1 has all the formats other than tiff and the original format greyed out in the SavePanel popup list. I've got version 3.0 of the filter service. You can still select the other formats in the save panel but it comes up with an alert panel when you do the save ("Could not convert to type xxx"). Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: Running Notes under Nextstep Organization: Madge Networks Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:37:34 GMT Message-ID: <Cyn1Mn.F2@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <CyL6Jn.FK5@madge1.demon.co.uk> <1994Nov1.203555.21227@seer.demon.co.uk> : We have run it with Notes using IPX, under the old version of SoftPC : (which we distribute in the UK, BTW). Our configuration was completely : standard. In fact I think I might have been slightly confused about what was beeing attempted - LAN Workplace will give you Notes over TCP/IP. Obvious first question if you're having problems with IPX is "does all the other Novell stuff work (both under NEXTSTEP & SoftPC)?"
From: schleip@vax.sbu.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word Processor for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Nov2.131945.8218@vax.sbu.ac.uk> Date: 2 Nov 94 13:19:45 GMT Organization: South Bank University Hi, Is there are word processor available for PC's running NeXTSTEP? It has to be able to handle PostScript files generated by xps. Cheers, Paul. schleip@vax.sbu.ac.uk
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend 1.2 Release Notes Date: 2 Nov 1994 10:03:29 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3989o1$3ns@panix.com> NEW FEATURES: * Fiend Shelf can now be disabled with a "dwrite" * Triple-Fat binary (I know, it's not really a feature...) CLEANUPS: * Dropping icons from the file viewer to the Fiend Shelf now places the dropped icons in a square like it's supposed to * Shelf is a lot faster overall (moving icons, in particular) * Shelf no longer removes icons for files no longer present * Better two-bit-gray icon (thanks to Bill Shirley for the starting point for these icons). BUGS FIXED: * Fiend not displaying docked icons properly after a resize followed by a drag * Fiend allowing animation flag for documents - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for NeXTSTEP? Date: 2 Nov 1994 16:53:40 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <398g6k$35i@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Nov2.131945.8218@vax.sbu.ac.uk> In article <1994Nov2.131945.8218@vax.sbu.ac.uk> schleip@vax.sbu.ac.uk writes: > Hi, > > Is there are word processor available for PC's running NeXTSTEP? It has to > be able to handle PostScript files generated by xps. > > Cheers, > Paul. > schleip@vax.sbu.ac.uk There are several excellent word processors for NEXTSTEP including OpenWrite, WriteUp, Pages, and WordPerfect; but there is only one PostScript editor: Tailor. Let me know if you'd like more information about any of these applications. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) Subject: Gnutar Message-ID: <1994Nov2.155311.20200@news.unige.ch> Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch Organization: University of Geneva Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:53:11 GMT I am looking for the NeXT gnu version of tar or a software who is similar because I have problems for extracting some packages like MiscKit or WW3Palettes. I have tried to compile the "official gnu" version but without succes. Thanks Didier
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 2 Nov 1994 16:58:53 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <398ggd$36e@potogold.rmii.com> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> In article <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? > > Comments? > > Damon F. Cooper > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Although I can not speak to its performance, SoftPC 4.0 is now available. It is for Intel hardware only and sells for $249. It is available from OpenSource. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Nov1.184348.1566@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <CyJ27n.38s@blackmaus.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:43:48 GMT > The only graphical HTML editor I know of is called HTML-Editor.app. The latest version (I > think, since that's what I have) is 0.3. It's pretty complete. It even includes support > for forms. > > You can find it via FTP at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de or better yet, point OmniWeb to > ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next. > Latest version known to me is HTML-Editor-0.5 from ftp://scholar.lib.vt.edu/pub/NEXT/ James Powell, the author, says he's using it to composes online newsletters for his school. -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu Newsgroups: msu.for-sale,misc.forsale.computers.other,misc.forsale-computers,fj.forsale.comp,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Subject: NeXT STEP 3.2 for Intel W/Dev. Kit Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 13:15:40 CST Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <398hrp$3j1@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 12:53:09 CST From: mcphers7@studentm.msu.edu Subject: Academic NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel w/ developers for sale and books X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am considering selling my academic version of NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel w/ developer's kit. I would sell it with the 8 Addison Wesley Books, in addition to, "The NeXT Book", "The Complete Guide to the NeXTStep User Environment", "NeXTStep Programming", "Programming the Display Postscript System with NeXTStep", and "The Renderman Companion." I would include 15 issues of NeXTWorld magazine for free, starting with Winter 1991 through January 1994. I will also include for free any other NeXTStep materials that I have. I am selling the program and the books as a package. All the rest is free to the purchaser. Please e-mail your offer Thanks for your interest! John McPherson
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 2 Nov 1994 12:46:46 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> <398ggd$36e@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: >In article <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> >damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) writes: >> Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? >> >> Comments? >> >> Damon F. Cooper >> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net >Although I can not speak to its performance, SoftPC 4.0 is now available. >It is for Intel hardware only and sells for $249. It is available from >OpenSource. Is this the version that will let you run dos/windows software compiled for 486's? I seem to remember Insignia promising to add 486 emulation to SoftPC. If not, what does it claim to support? (enhanced mode windows apps, I hope) John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Date: 2 Nov 1994 20:15:13 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <398s0h$fos@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <REUVEN.94Oct31112257@the-tech.mit.edu> In article <REUVEN.94Oct31112257@the-tech.mit.edu> reuven@the-tech.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes: > >>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua W Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> writes: > > I will probably move to Israel at the end of summer '95, and expect to > bring my color slab with me. So hey, there might soon be a handful of > us! > > Reuven I want to follow you (for PhD) -- still not sure.... but want to write a small Editor.app. Anybody wants to join me? -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music Notation Packages on Intel Date: 2 Nov 1994 12:21:58 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <00986DD4.E64FBF20.8@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> First question: Does anyone know anything about Ciusa's situation? I'm waiting to buy NoteAbility for Intel, but Ciusa isn't returning calls. It would be a shame if NoteAbility were to become unavailable. In the meantime, I've gotten the MusicKit source and compiled all the apps for Intel and now I'm trying to decide on a DSP card and to compile Nutation. The TurtleBeach seems like the nicest DSP card for the money, but I wonder if I can play sounds through it or if I'll have to keep my PAS Basic (which works wonderfully, btw). The MIDI port on the PAS is now supported by the MusicKit, but the default (and perhaps only) port address is the same as the Adaptec 1540. I'm not sure that either can be changed. Second question: Has anyone tried to compile Nu for Intel? The source is on the Fatted Calf CD-ROM. I get almost all the way to the end, trying to link the object files, but then PB complains about two symbols being undefined and dies. I've forgotten the exact names, but they start with .objc (I expected to see a _objc or some such). It was very disappointing to get so far and then have the thing choke. Perhaps some hacking will reveal the problem, but I've not really had time to play with it. If anyone has the secret, please let me in on it! Thanks. Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tailor and TeX Date: 2 Nov 1994 19:19:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Can anyone comment on whether and why it might be advantageous to purchase Tailor if you are using TeX (or LaTeX)? -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 2 Nov 1994 19:21:48 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <398osc$1bgr@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> In article <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes: [munch] Is this the version that will let you run dos/windows software compiled for 486's? I seem to remember Insignia promising to add 486 emulation to SoftPC. If not, what does it claim to support? (enhanced mode windows apps, I hope) Additionally, can SoftPC 4.0 run MATLAB and WordPerfect semi-seamlessly under NeXTSTEP? Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:43:00 -0500 Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <9411021443.AA00062@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> Is there *any* newsreader for NeXTStep/PA-RISC? I'd be happy with a simple recompile of NewsGrazer (NeXT? Are you reading this? Hello?). I tried NewsBase, but MMEdit.app wouldn't compile. (And the binaries distributed are only double-fat.) Is there anything else? If not, can someone tell me where to find trn or the like? I'm currently using TCP/Connect II on a Mac and I'm tired of it. It crashed as I tried to post this the first time. Btw, what *are* NeXT's plans for NewsGrazer? NS 4.0? None? If none, I'd love to see the source released so *somebody* can do something useful with it. Unchanging code does not improve with age, I'm afraid. Josh -- Joshua Juran jjuran@eos.hitc.com Information Systems Associate (NeXTMail welcome) Hughes Applied Information Systems (301) 925-0418 Hughes Information Technology Corporation =)
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 2 Nov 1994 20:39:41 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <398ted$2iq@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <398ggd$36e@potogold.rmii.com> In article <398ggd$36e@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: > In article <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> > damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > > Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? > Although I can not speak to its performance, SoftPC 4.0 is now available. > It is for Intel hardware only and sells for $249. It is available from > OpenSource. > -- > > Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. What about a licence transfer program for those of us who replaced blacks NeXTstations with white hardware and chunked out lots of $$ for SoftPC 3.0 (Professional/with WIndows)??? We have a 2 user licence I would like to transfer or somehow get credit for!!!! At one point they were calling the white hardware version by a different name,, softwindows I think. Now it has the same name as the Black version and the logical upgrade number from 3.0 to 4.0. So are they going to offer a transfer program or try to get as much $$$ from us as possible by saying it is not the same. Probably the latter:(( -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: Fiend Dock Tip Message-ID: <1994Nov2.203011.19945@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <393o52$5r4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:30:11 GMT Eric Lambert writes > Just my 2 cents, but DAMN if FIEND isn't one of the coolest programs I've had > the pleasure to use!! One helluva programmer.... > > -eil =-) > Let's not get carried away here. Fiend is pretty good. Certainly not the coolest app. A cool app would completely replace Workspace.app (the file viewer should be a loadable bundle). The new version to shut off the shelf is a plus. Now how about rendering multi-plane tiffs on the background correctly? I see my 12bit colour tiff version on Black h/w instead of the two bit plane. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 feature list Message-ID: <1994Nov2.203145.20009@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <CyL1A5.7DC@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:31:45 GMT Dimitri Tischenko writes > Many of you asked for NS3.3 feature list. Here it is. > > > BSD 4.4 Networking > Just networking? I thought ALL of 3.3 was supposed to be BSD 4.4 clone? Am I wrong? -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Message-ID: <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <MAGNAN.94Nov1171815@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:34:06 GMT Magnan Francois writes > > I am using Transys pni 1.11 and when I want to hang up I do > > /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -d -c down pni0 > > When I am logged in as root it works well but no other user can do it. > I get a message like: "Can't find pnid deamon, Is it running?" > What am I doing wrong? > This is happening to me too. What's going on? I don't think it used to happen. Did I accidently change something that affects this? I have to su as root and HUP the pnid. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OCR software for cube? Date: 02 Nov 1994 20:44:00 GMT Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.94Nov2154400@sapir.ling.yale.edu> It turns out suddenly that I need to scan a great deal of text into my cube for editing purposes, and I haven't noticed any discussion recently of what software there is for this purpose. What is there, and what works well? And while I'm at it, recommendations for scanners and scanner software would be useful too. I saw an announcement for a package that supports a number of readily available scanners recently, but naturally I deleted it because I didn't need to control a scanner......at the time. If I get answers in e-mail, and there seems to be some interest, I'll post a summary. --Steve Anderson
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PNI mysteriously broken Date: 2 Nov 1994 14:00:13 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <39925d$a04@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu> As of Nov 1 my copy of pni1.12 has broken!! I've tryed to reinstall the package twice from the distribution, ( It eventually broke so hard it corrupted my file system!! ), once on an abosolutely clean system. The only thing I can imagine is that there is some bug in the unrestriced SLIP key, that caused the package to time out. It crashes after a console message from mach about pniattach. It hangs the system so that it won't recognize a soft reset. I've really enjoyed useing PNI1.12 up till now, and know of no other solution to my system connectivity. I hope no others have had this problem, and am seeking the wisdom of my comrads to overcome this hardship. Thanks for your suggestions. John Candlish . . .!@#$%^&*()
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help! Is Date.app Available as double or triple Fat?? Date: 2 Nov 1994 22:21:41 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <3993dl$5vp@wave.aoml.erl.gov> We just replaced 3 Motorola machines for intel and just realized that we all have active datebooks with lots of important scheduling info but now we have no way to look at it. Does anyone have an Intel or preferably a Moto-Intel-HPPA version of Date.app available or know where we might find it? We have the fatted calf CD but unfortunately Date was not on it:^( -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402 (NeXTmail Accepted!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Organization: P & L Systems References: <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 22:23:00 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov2.222300.24823@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> kris@xmission.com (kris) writes: > Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com) wrote: > : Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? > > : Comments? > > : Damon F. Cooper > : damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net > > And is it still a "Windows in a window" emulator, or will it run Windoze apps > rootless, a la Co-Xist, etc.? It is available. Performance is much improved, especially when using IPX. Pricing was announced by Insignia recently (it was on the uk-next-announce mailing list on 18 October). The European price (and I am sure the US price will be different) is 199 pounds, or 46 pounds for an upgrade from 3.1. This version still run Windows in a window. The rootless version was announced by Steve Jobs at Expo, planned (he said) for 4.0 NeXTSTEP. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Fiend Dock Tip Message-ID: <1994Nov3.010002.373@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <393o52$5r4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 01:00:02 GMT Eric Lambert writes > Just my 2 cents, but DAMN if FIEND isn't one of the coolest programs > I've had the pleasure to use!! One helluva programmer.... I agree. Excellent tool. I would say that Fiend and TickleServices are my two favorite tools! (David, Scott, the checks are on the way). -- Chris Cuilla Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: parkhill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Robert Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing n-up Date: 2 Nov 1994 06:40:53 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <397c9l$b2v@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi all: I have a large ascii file formatted with page-breaks (^L) that I need to print 4-up on my NeXT 400 dpi printer. Printing it 1-up works fine, but I could not get it to print 4-up. So, I converted the ascii file to a .ps file with WordPerfect, which does not allow for n-up printing in the page layout preferences. So, I took that .ps file and ran it through psnup -n4 which gave me a nice .ps file, formatted n-up. I can open this file up in Preview and look through it no problem. However, when I try to print it out, all I get are blank pages! I have also tried 'psnup -n4 foo.ps | pslpr' which gives me the exact same results. So, the question I have is, does anyone know of another way to print this file out 4-up? I have tried to use both Edit and WriteNow, but they do not recognize the '^L' for page breaks. thanks Rob
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help! Is Date.app Available as double or triple Fat?? Date: 3 Nov 1994 01:32:53 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <399ek5$8pf@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <3993dl$5vp@wave.aoml.erl.gov> In article <3993dl$5vp@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes: > We just replaced 3 Motorola machines for intel and just realized that we > all have active datebooks with lots of important scheduling info but now > we have no way to look at it. Does anyone have an Intel or preferably a > Moto-Intel-HPPA version of Date.app available or know where we might find > it? We have the fatted calf CD but unfortunately Date was not on it:^( First: a side question. Has anyone else had their Date schedules change? Everything in mine recently dropped back a day, and I can't figure out why (or how to easily fix it). As for fat Date: I doubt seriously you'll find it. An acceptable solution for you might be to run Date over the net with the output coming to the individual machines. Commercial alternatives include PencilMeIn, which is quite nice (certainly does much more than Date), but rather expensive as I recall. TimeFlies is a cheap ($30) reminder type app - it'll send email, play sounds, run scripts at predefined, repeatable times/dates. It's not got a perfect interface, and it's functionality is not all-encompassing, but it seems to be good for what it claims to do (I haven't had a chance to check it out over a period of time). There must be some other options, but I don't know what they are. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: expert system shells on NeXTSTep Date: 3 Nov 1994 09:06:04 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <39a95t$9e6@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hallo, are there any expert system shells/Ki-enviroments available for NeXTStep platforms, commercial or public domain? Is there a prolog-interpreter for NeXTStep? Any pointers to addresses, articles, ftp-sites are welcome. Thanks in advance Robert -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processor for NeXTSTEP? Date: 3 Nov 1994 04:55:44 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941103105519.232AACUM.malc@jeeves> References: <1994Nov2.131945.8218@vax.sbu.ac.uk> > Is there are word processor available for PC's running NeXTSTEP? It has to > be able to handle PostScript files generated by xps. > Umm, what do you mean by this -- you want to import PostScript documents into the WP? If you want to import *whole* documents (i.e. containing many pages) you can do this with PasteUp -- it's an absolute boon. If you just want to import EPS, you can do this with any NEXTSTEP WP; Pages by Pages, AFS's WriteUp, and Xanthus' forthcoming OpenWrite. Feel free to mail me if you want to know more or if I've misunderstood your requirements. Have fun, mmalcolm. posn. research facilitator where institute for language speech and hearing sheffield university c/o department of computer science regent court 211 portobello street sheffield s1 4dp england vox (+44) 114 282 5569 fax (+44) 114 278 0972 email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: Gnutar Message-ID: <1994Nov3.124720.11623@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <1994Nov2.155311.20200@news.unige.ch> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 12:47:20 GMT In article <1994Nov2.155311.20200@news.unige.ch> vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) writes: > > I am looking for the NeXT gnu version of tar or a software who is > similar because I have problems for extracting some packages like MiscKit > ... On my machine gnutar is in '/usr/bin'. Maybe part of the developer package. R. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\________________________________________________
From: dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu (Deep Medhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP from TransSys on NS 2.1 : any experience Date: 3 Nov 1994 15:07:32 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City Message-ID: <39aubk$uac@kasey.umkc.edu> I am about to set up Dial-Up IP (SLIP) by TransSys (available from anon. ftp sites) on a 68040 NeXTstation running NS 2.1 I am checking to see other people's experience in setting it up and anything I should pay attention to. I have a Hayes' compatible modem at home. Please send your replies directly to me. Many thanks. Deep Medhi Univ of Missouri-Kansas City dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!/:&QF<SM]"EQM87)G M;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@Y-C!<='@Q.3(P7'1X,C@X,%QT>#,X M-#!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8W,C!<='@W-C@P7'1X.#8T,%QT>#DV,#!< M9C!<8C!<:3!<=6PP7&9S,C0@7`I)(&%M(&%B;W5T('1O('-E="!U<"!$:6%L M+55P($E0("A33$E0*2!B>2!4<F%N<U-Y<R`H879A:6QA8FQE(&9R;VT@86YO M;BX@9G1P('-I=&5S*2!O;B!A(#8X,#0P($YE6%1S=&%T:6]N(')U;FYI;F<@ M3E,@,BXQ7`I<"DD@86T@8VAE8VMI;F<@=&\@<V5E(&]T:&5R('!E;W!L92=S M(&5X<&5R:65N8V4@:6X@<V5T=&EN9R!I="!U<"!A;F0@86YY=&AI;F<@22!S M:&]U;&0@<&%Y(&%T=&5N=&EO;B!T;RX@22!H879E(&$@2&%Y97,G(&-O;7!A M=&EB;&4@;6]D96T@870@:&]M92Y<"EP*4&QE87-E('-E;F0@>6]U<B!R97!L M:65S(&1I<F5C=&QY('1O(&UE+EP*7`I-86YY('1H86YK<RY<"EP*("!$965P M($UE9&AI7`H@(%5N:78@;V8@36ES<V]U<FDM2V%N<V%S($-I='E<"B`@9&UE 89&AI0&-S='`N=6UK8RYE9'5<"EP*"GT* `
From: joe@msri.org (Joe Christy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: TransSys-PNI-1.13 TTY problems Date: 2 Nov 1994 23:28:10 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Message-ID: <42141@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Keywords: PNI TTY recvChars problem Aaack, I'm at my wit's end. I've been trying to install and test TransSys-PNI-1.13 on a 68040 NeXT cube to set up a SLIP connection to a Telebit NetBlazer using a Telebit T2500 modem. As soon as the modem has dialed and connected the TTY encapsulator looses its ability to receive characters from the tty, so the very next expect fails. Has anyone else seen this problem? Has anyone solved it? Below I append 4 files: the configuration file, the dial and login scripts, and a log of waht happens when I try to make the connection. What is remarkable is how insensitive the problem is to the settings of the modem. I've tried many configurations of the modem's registers, but the problem repeats itself identically for everything that I've tried. Does anyone have a dial script that works with a T2500? I've also tried using /dev{cufa,cua,ttya} for the device, with similar lack of success. Could it be the problem be the major and minor numbers of the device? What device do others use? -- Joe Christy | Head of Mathematical Computing |Two wrongs joe@msri.org |Mathematical Sciences Research Institute|don't make a (510)643-6069| 1000 Centennial Drive #5070 |right, but FAX 642-8609| Berkeley, CA 94720-5070 |three lefts do ####### cut here for pni0.config ######## # Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc. # All rights reserved. # # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/config,v 1.8 1994/05/16 02:31:14 louie Exp $ # # Sample Configuration for pnid. # # This file consists of two type of information: # # - TCL set commands with configuration and customization information # # - TCL stack commands to set the encapsulators to be used # # The variables set in the first section are examined by encapsulator # specific initialization functions. These are called # encapname_configure, where 'encapname' is the lable of the # encapsulator that was invoked by the 'stack' command at the bottom of # this file. This function examines the variable and invokes # encapsulator specific TCL commands to effect the configuration. # # Note this approach attempts to balance ease of configuration against # available features. It is possible to perform more specialized # configuration by invoking the encapsulator specific functions # directly. See the various FOO_objInit.tcl files in the FOO.encap # bundles for more details. # # Note also that this sample configuration has more configuration information # than is actually necessary. You do not have to specify any configuration # information for encapsulators that you are not using. For example, if # you are using the TTY encapsulator and not the tunnel encapsulator, you # don't need any of the Config(tunnel:foo) configuration information. # # --------------------------------------------------------------- # Interface configuration. This configuration the PNI encapsulator which # corresponds to the kernel's network interface. This contains the IP address # related information for the PNI network connection. # # set the name of the interface to configure (pni0, pni1, etc..) set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 # set the MTU (maximum transmission unit) to be used. Since we're going to # be using TCP header compression, set this down low. Other wise use something # like 1006 or 1500 bytes for "normal" SLIP. set Config(pni:MTU) 1006 # set OUR (local) IP address for the network interface set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 128.3.188.218 # for a point-to-point link (SLIP or CSLIP), configure the REMOTE IP address set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 128.3.188.98 # set the network mask to be used. set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.252.0 # install a default route pointing to this interface? If so, set non-zero set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 # --------------------------------------------------------------- # Tunnel configuration. Used when configuring a virtual network connection # which is "tunneled" through an existing network # Set the UDP port number we will be expecting tunneled packets to arrive one set Config(tunnel:PORT) 42 # Configure a list of remote tunnel endpoints. This consists of a list of # 4-tuples that specify: # # - the the destination "next hop" IP address. In the case of a # point-to-point tunnel, this is just the REMOTE IP addressed # configured for PNI # - the IP address of the tunnel endpoint. This is the address that the we # send the packets to once they have been encapsulated. # - the port number on the tunnel endpoint. Corresponds to the tunnel:PORT # parameter that we configured # - the tunnel method to use. For now, only UDP can be specfied. # set Config(tunnel:TUNNELS) { {1.1.1.1 127.0.0.1 42 UDP} } # --------------------------------------------------------------- # Secure path configuration. Used when we are securing traffic to another # endpoint. Consists of two sets of information: a list of (key number, key) # pairs; and a list of (IP address, key number) pairs. This means that # each remote IP address that traffic is being sent to can have its own # key. In the case of a point-to-point link (via a point-to-point tunnel), # there need only be one (IP address, key number) specified. You can, however, # specify a complete list for all the hosts in a system and have each host # share the list. # (key number, key) pairs. The key is a string which is converted to a DES # key by using an MD5 digest. set Config(secure:KEYS) { { 1 "This is the test key" } { 2 "This is another key" } { 2345 "foo" } } # (IP address, key number) pairs. Used to select which key to use for the # "next hop" address. set Config(secure:HOSTS) { { 1.1.1.1 2 } { 1.1.1.2 1 } } # --------------------------------------------------------------- # SLIP/CSLIP encapsulator. Used to take an IP packet and perform SLIP/CSLIP # encapsulation upon it. Only parameter is to select between "slip", "cslip" # or "auto" which will switch into "cslip" modem if a compressed packet is # received from the other side. set Config(slip:MODE) slip set Config(slip:MTU) 296 #set Config(slip:MTU) 1006 # --------------------------------------------------------------- # IP packet filter configuration. Used to filter incoming and outgoing # traffic # Set filter expression for packets being received which will be dropped. set Config(filter:INPUTFILTER) { not (src host 229.234.128.10 or src host 229.234.253.10 or src host 229.234.254.10) and (udp dst port 161 or tcp dst port login or tcp dst port shell) } # Set list of RPC protocols which will be dropped on input set Config(filter:INPUTFILTER_RPCS) { nfs netinfobind } # Set filter expression for packets being received which will be logged # check for SYN|FIN|RST with zero set Config(filter:INPUT_LOG) { (tcp[13] & 3 != 0) or (tcp[13] & 7 != 0 and tcp[8:4]==0) } # Set filter expression for packets being transmitted which will be dropped set Config(filter:OUTPUTFILTER) { } # Set list of RPC protocols which will be dropped on output set Config(filter:OUTPUTFILTER_RPCS) { } # Set filter expression for packets being sent which will be logged set Config(filter:OUTPUT_LOG) { } # to enable disconnect after inactivity, uncomment the following. You # can specify the interval in seconds for input inactivity. Similar # variables exist for output inactivity. # # set Config(filter:INPUT_ACT_INTERVAL) 2000 # you can also specify what sort of traffic will reset the inactivity # time. That's so background stuff link NTP won't keep the link up. # # set Config(filter:INPUT_ACT_FILTER) \ # { port uucp or port smtp or port telnet or port login or \ # port shell or port ftp } # --------------------------------------------------------------- # TTY configuration. This encapsulator uses tty devices to send and # receive characters on a serial port. # set hardware device to used set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufa #set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cua # set speed to use #set Config(tty:SPEED) 38400 #set Config(tty:SPEED) 19200 set Config(tty:SPEED) 9600 # set dialing script to use set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) T2500 # set login script to use set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) dialback # set name of remote SLIP server. Used to select remote login parameters set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) nb # set phone number to dial - can specify a list to try each in turn #set Config(tty:NUMBER) {643-0632} #set Config(tty:NUMBER) {642-6138} set Config(tty:NUMBER) {642-5967} # optional, complex configuration with multiple alternatives to try multiple # dialing script, login scripts and telephone number to attempt to bring up # the connection. # # set Config(DIALER) {Dialer dialer} # set Config(DEVICES) { # # { /dev/cufa 38400 UUCPLOCK zyxel # {555-1212 annex SlipServerName} # {555-1212 annex SlipServerName} # {555-1212 annex SlipServerName} } # # { /dev/cudspfa 38400 UUCPLOCK zyxel # {555-1212 annex SlipServerName} # {555-1212 annex SlipServerName} } # } # --------------------------------------------------------------- # set local configuration parameters to be passed to dialing and login scripts # Dialing script paramters. "SlipServerName" is what was named on the tty:SERVERNAME # paramter above. # Do TONE or PULSE dialing set Config(SlipServerName:DIALTYPE) TONE # Set name of file that contains password information. The contents of # that file look like this: # set username # set password theSecretWord #set Config(SlipServerName:SECRETFILE) /etc/pni/config/password.SlipServerName set Config(SlipServerName:SECRETFILE) /etc/pni/config/password.nb # or, alternatively set them here. Of course, this file may be readable.. # set Config(SlipServerName:USERNAME) sliplogin37 # set Config(SlipServerName:PASSWORD) theSecretWord # --------------------------------------------------------------- # set the password used for remote control of the pnid process. This can be # also be set in some other file and sourced instead # set Config(CMD:password) "The secret word" # --------------------------------------------------------------- # Finally, actually configure the encapsulators to be used in order. The # stack command is used to do this. # # The first argument is the name of the encapsulator module (which are # ALL in UPPER CASE). # # The second argument is the label that we use to reference the # encapsulator. The label is necessary because it is possible to use # the same encapsulator more than once in a configuration, and it is # necessary to be able to refer to each one. # # These are specified in order, from the "top" level encapsulator, which # is always PNI (the kernel network interface driver) with successive # encapsulators ending with a real "device" such as TTY or a pseudo # device like LOOP (for looping back) or TUNNEL for building IP tunnels. stack PNI pni #stack FILTER filter stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty # # User hooks # #tty debug 7 tty debug 10 set Config(callLog) "/usr/adm/pni.call-log" proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" if { [file exists /etc/resolv.conf.SAVE] && ![file exists /etc/resolv.conf] } { system "cp /etc/resolv.conf.SAVE /etc/resolv.conf" log "Installed copy of saved /etc/resolv.conf" } } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } # -- that's all ####### cut here for dial-T2500.tcl ####### # Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc. # All rights reserved. # # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/dial-worldblazer.tcl,v 1.5 1993/11/23 04:46:33 louie Exp $ # ## dial-T2500.tcl - Configure and dial a T2500 modem. ## ## Tcldiald TCL script used to configure and dial a Telebit ## T2500 modem. This script ## ## (derived from a dial-WorldBlazer.tcl for DialUp IP by:) ## Joe Christy, 10/20/94 ## joe@msri.org ## proc dial-T2500 { DIALER number cfg } { # # This script assumes that the zero'th argument is the dialer object # to be used, and the next argument be number to be dialed. # global Config syslog LOG_INFO "$DIALER: Start of T2500 dialing script, dialing $number" set how TONE # flush any pending command $DIALER xmit {\r} $DIALER sleep 1 # get modems attention # set timeout 2 # foreach i {once} { # $DIALER xmit {AT\r} # $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} # $DIALER xmit {AT\r} # $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} # $DIALER xmit {AT\r} # $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} # error "Could not get the modem's attention" # } # set timeout 5 set timeout 2 foreach i {once} { $DIALER xmit {AT\r} $DIALER expect "{*OK*}" break timeout {} $DIALER xmit {AT\r} $DIALER expect "{*OK*}" break timeout {} $DIALER xmit {AT\r} $DIALER expect "{*OK*}" break timeout {} error "Could not get the modem's attention" } set timeout 5 # # set modem up with known parameters; start with built-in BSD UUCP # settings and configure from there # $DIALER xmit {ATZ\r} $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK"} "*OK*" $DIALER xmit {AT&F\r} $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK"} "*OK*" # turn off command echo $DIALER xmit {ATE0\r} $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK"} "*OK*" $DIALER xmit {ATI3\r} $DIALER rexpect timeout {} \ "\[\r\n]+(\[A-Za-z]\[^\r\n]+) \r.*OK\r\n" {set version $1 # the regsub to strip trailing spaces regsub {(.*[^ ])\ +$} $version {\1} version syslog LOG_DEBUG "Modem firmware version is '$version'" } $DIALER sleep 1 # # Now actually configure the modem with the proper parameters. # # Here our are settings: # # Q0 - Display resonses. # X2 - Lots of result codes. # S0=2 - Answer on second ring. # S7=70 - Wait for connection 70 secs. # S18=10 - Wait for tests 10 secs. # S26=0 - RTS to CTS delay interval. # S41=3 - disconnect after 18 minutes idel time. # S58=2 - Use full RTS/CTS flow control. # S64=0 - abort if chars xmitted by local DTE before connect. # S68=255 - Use flow control specified by S58. # S92=1 - Try PEP mode last. # S93=10 - Answer mode V32 detect time. # S111=255 - Use protocol remote modem wants. # set setupstr { Q0 X2 S0=2 S7=70 S18=10 S26=0 S41=3 S58=2 S64=0 S68=255 S92=1 S93=10 S111=255 } foreach s $setupstr { $DIALER xmit "AT$s\r" $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK for parm $s"} \ "{*ERROR\r*}" {warn "Modem returned ERROR setting $s"} \ "{*OK*}" } # allow override of dialing type if {[info exists Config($cfg:DIALTYPE)]} { set how $Config($cfg:DIALTYPE) } # dial the phone if { [string compare [string tolower $how] tone] && [string compare [string tolower $how] dtmf] } { notice "Dialing (pulse) $number ..." $DIALER xmit "ATDP$number\r" } else { notice "Dialing (DTMF) $number ..." $DIALER xmit "ATDT$number\r" } # wait for connect message set timeout 60 $DIALER expect \ timeout \ {error "Timeout waiting for modem to connect to $number"} \ -re "(CONNECT.*)\r+\n" {syslog LOG_INFO "Connected $dialer_expect_out(1,string)"} \ DIALING {syslog LOG_DEBUG "Dialing.."; continue -expect } \ -re R+ING {syslog LOG_DEBUG "Ringing.."; continue -expect } \ "{*ERROR\r*}" {error "Modem returned ERROR"} \ "{*NO CARRIER\r*}" {error "Modem returned NO CARRIER"} \ "{*NO DIAL TONE\r*}" {error "Modem returned NO DIAL TONE"} \ "{*BUSY\r*}" {error "Remote modem busy"} } ####### cut here for login-dialback.tcl ####### # Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc. # All rights reserved. # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/login-netblazer.tcl,v 1.3 1994/10/10 02:59:10 louie Exp $ proc nb-password { DIALER username password } { $DIALER xmit "$username\r" $DIALER expect "*assword:*" {$DIALER xmit "$password\r"} \ timeout {error "waiting for password prompt"} } # The username and password to be used are stored in a # seperate file. The name of the file is specified in the # Config array. # # This file should contain (at least) two TCL set commands to # set the variables 'username' and 'password'. Its likely # that you don't want these files generally readable for # security purposes, so a check is made for you, and the # script will fail if the file is readable. # # Alternatively, the members of the keyed list "username" and # "password" can be used to specify the username and password to be # passed to the terminal server. proc login-dialback { DIALER cfg } { global Config syslog LOG_INFO "Begin netblazer login" set username "" set password "" if {[info exists Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)] && [file exists $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)]} { if {[file exists $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)]} { source $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE) } file stat $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE) stat if {[expr $stat(mode)&04]} { error "File with password, $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE), is readable by 'other'!" } } else { if {[info exists Config($cfg:USERNAME)]} { set username $Config($cfg:USERNAME) } if {[info exists Config($cfg:PASSWORD)]} { set password $Config($cfg:PASSWORD) } } # # set parity of transmitted data # $DIALER parity ZERO # # For auto-baud nonsense.. sometimes its necessary to poke at it a couple # of times before it figures out what speed the modem is at. # set timeout 2 # $DIALER xmit {\r\r} # $DIALER sleep 1 foreach i {once} { $DIALER xmit {\r} # # look for host prompt # $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*Where:*" {$DIALER xmit {joe-home}; break} $DIALER xmit {\r} $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*Where:*" {$DIALER xmit {joe-home}; break} $DIALER xmit {\r} $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*Where:*" {$DIALER xmit {joe-home}; break} error "Couldn't make initial connection to net-blazer" } set timeout 75 foreach i {once} { $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*login:*" {nb-password $DIALER $username $password; break} $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*login:*" {nb-password $DIALER $username $password; break} $DIALER expect timeout {} \ "*login:*" {nb-password $DIALER $username $password; break} error "Couldn't make dialback connection to net-blazer" } set timeout 10 # # send command to put terminal server into SLIP mode # set mode SLIP if {[info exists Config($cfg:MODE)]} { set mode $Config($cfg:MODE) } # $DIALER expect {*Packet\ mode\ enabled*} {} \ timeout {error "Timeout waiting for Packet Mode message"} syslog LOG_DEBUG "Entering Packet Mode" # # that's all # return "Connected" } ####### cut here for connection log with error messages ##### ROOT (pni) # ./pnirun -debug pni0 TransSys PNI 1.13 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.29 1994/10/10 03:43:55 louie Exp $) Copyright (c) TransSys, Inc. All rights reserved. license key: serial number 1 version 0 keyversion 0 features 0x49 license key: licensed to Plain Slip User Loading package initialization file in /etc/pni/pnid.tcl pnid: Operation mode is CLIENTpnid: Test mode pnid: using configuration in /etc/pni/config/pni0.config Loaded bundle /etc/pni/PNI.encap for class PNI Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/PNI.encap/PNI_objInit.tcl Loaded bundle /etc/pni/SLIP.encap for class SLIP Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/SLIP.encap/SLIP_objInit.tcl Encap: loading class initialiation code from /etc/pni/TTY.encap/TTY_Init.tcl Loaded bundle /etc/pni/TTY.encap for class TTY Load TCL initialization from /etc/pni/TTY.encap/TTY_objInit.tcl --> configure: pni --> configure: slip --> configure: ttyLoaded bundle /etc/pni/Dialer.bundle for class Dialer tty: Default to UUCP-style locking protocol-slip stats: 0 packets, 0 compressed, 0 searches, 0 misses - 0 uncompressed in, 0 compressed in, 0 error in, 0 tossed Uptime is 1 second (since Thu Oct 27 14:24:30 1994 UTC) 297 TCL commands executed, 0.547 user, 0.281 system Configuration complete PNI pni: pni0 open on fd 4 pnictl: registered for RPC program number 395250 (fd 5) pni: can't add default route pni: add net default: gateway 128.3.188.98: File exists while executing "exec /usr/etc/route add default 128.3.188.98 1" pni: can't add route for local address through loopback interface pni: add host 128.3.188.218: gateway 127.0.0.1: File exists while executing "exec /usr/etc/route add 128.3.188.218 127.0.0.1... PNI pni: started SLIP slip: started TTY tty attach: attempting to use port /dev/cufa TTY tty: Device type is NeXT zs type hardware TTY_attach: port /dev/cufa succeeded at 9600 Connecting for pni0 on /dev/cufa at 9600 bps dialer debug 10 source /etc/pni/config/dial-T2500.tcl TTY tty: Trying to call 642-5967 (dialback) dialer: Start of T2500 dialing script, dialing 642-5967 XMIT \r PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 XMIT AT\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATZ\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT Z (0132) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT AT&F\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT & (0046) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT F (0106) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 4 RECV: AT&F expect: does {AT&F} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*OK*}? no tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 4 RECV: \r\r\nO expect: does {AT&F\r\r\nO} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*OK*}? no tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 3 RECV: K\r\n expect: does {AT&F\r\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {AT&F\r\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATE0\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT E (0105) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 11 RECV: ATE0\r\r\nOK\r\n expect: does {ATE0\r\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {ATE0\r\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATI3\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT I (0111) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 3 (0063) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 19 RECV: \r\nVersion GA1.00\r\nO expect: does {\r\nVersion GA1.00\r\nO} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no RE '[\r\n]+([A-Za-z][^\r\n]+) \r.*OK\r\n'? no timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 3 RECV: K\r\n expect: does {\r\nVersion GA1.00\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no RE '[\r\n]+([A-Za-z][^\r\n]+) \r.*OK\r\n'? no timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no tty: recvChars: select returns 0 tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready expect: set expect_match {\r\nVersion GA1.00\r\nOK\r\n} expect: timed out after 5 secnds XMIT ATQ0\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT Q (0121) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATX2\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT X (0130) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS0=2\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS7=70\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 7 (0067) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 7 (0067) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS18=10\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 8 (0070) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS26=0\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 6 (0066) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS41=3\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 4 (0064) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 3 (0063) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS58=2\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 8 (0070) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS64=0\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 6 (0066) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 4 (0064) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS68=255\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 6 (0066) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 8 (0070) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS92=1\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 9 (0071) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS93=10\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 9 (0071) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 3 (0063) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 0 (0060) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} XMIT ATS111=255\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT S (0123) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 1 (0061) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT = (0075) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 6 RECV: \r\nOK\r\n expect: does {\r\nOK\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no {*ERROR\r*}? no {*OK*}? yes expect: set expect_match {\r\nOK\r\n} Dialing (DTMF) 642-5967 ... XMIT ATDT642-5967\r PUT A (0101) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT D (0104) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT T (0124) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 6 (0066) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 4 (0064) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 2 (0062) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT - (0055) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 5 (0065) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 9 (0071) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 6 (0066) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT 7 (0067) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 1 tty: recvChars: read returns 16 RECV: \r\nCONNECT 9600\r\n expect: does {\r\nCONNECT 9600\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no RE '(CONNECT.*)\r+\n'? yes dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(0,start) to 2 dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(0,end) to 15 dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(0,string) to CONNECT 9600 dialer: set var 0 to CONNECT 9600 dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(1,start) to 2 dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(1,end) to 13 dialer: set var dialer_expect_out(1,string) to CONNECT 9600 dialer: set var 1 to CONNECT 9600 dialer: unset var 2 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(2,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(2,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(2,string) dialer: unset var 3 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(3,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(3,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(3,string) dialer: unset var 4 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(4,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(4,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(4,string) dialer: unset var 5 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(5,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(5,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(5,string) dialer: unset var 6 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(6,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(6,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(6,string) dialer: unset var 7 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(7,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(7,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(7,string) dialer: unset var 8 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(8,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(8,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(8,string) dialer: unset var 9 dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(9,start) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(9,end) dialer: unset var dialer_expect_out(9,string) expect: set expect_match {\r\nCONNECT 9600\r\n} Connected CONNECT 9600 TTY tty: Dialer succeeded to 642-5967 source /etc/pni/config/login-dialback.tcl Begin netblazer login XMIT \r PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 0 tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready expect: set expect_match {} expect: timed out after 2 secnds XMIT \r PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 0 tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready expect: set expect_match {} expect: timed out after 2 secnds XMIT \r PUT \r (0015) tty: sendChars: select returns 1 tty: sendChars: write returns 1 tty: recvChars: select returns 0 tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready expect: set expect_match {} expect: timed out after 2 secnds TTY tty: Login to 642-5967 with dialback failed Couldn't make initial connection to net-blazer Couldn't make initial connection to net-blazer\n while executing\n"error "Couldn't make initial connection to net-blazer""\n ... TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port tty: link connect script fails === TCL Error: Connect script failed to establish link: > TTY tty: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed === errorCode > NONE === errorInfo > TTY tty: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed > while executing > "error "[$encapName encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed"" > invoked from within > "if {$connected==0} { > error "[$encapName encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection - all attempts failed" > }" > (procedure "dialer_connect" line 52) > invoked from within > "dialer_connect tty dialer" === [end error dump] tty: error 1 starting encapsulator (ERROR) (Error initializing encapsulator tty during phase2 initialization) exiting due to "stop" command stop pni going_down PNI pni: stopped stop slip going_down SLIP slip: stopped stop tty going_down TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port TTY tty: UUCP-style lock for /dev/cufa released TTY tty: stopped LINK tty disconnected exiting ROOT (pni) #
From: jfb@tequila Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: 03 Nov 94 15:10:22 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov3151022@tequila> References: <9411021443.AA00062@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain yes Newsbase, extremely good, better (in my opinion) that newsgrazer, sources are available on major archives so that mere compilation is needed. Jean-FranÛois Boisvieux jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tjyang@cc (Tyng-Jing Yang) Subject: Where is Inn for NS ? Message-ID: <1994Nov3.150537.29137@news.nsysu.edu.tw> Sender: news@news.nsysu.edu.tw Organization: National Sun Yat-Sen University,Taiwan,R.O.C. Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:05:37 GMT Hi,netter I grabbed the inn1.4_sec.tar.gz from archive site but the compiling process is not smooth. Is there a version of inn which has been customed for NS ? Thanks for any pointer -- -- Tyng-Jing Yang My Chinese Name in Big5 code=( ·¨®xª÷ ) #221 Sec. 2 Chin-Nein Rd. Fong-Shang City 830,Taiwan FAX/Phone: +886-7-7423118 tjyang@cc.kyit.edu.tw (Work,07-6968121ext56) tjyang@cc.nsysu.edu.tw (Exwork) tjyang@cubic.entrance.com.tw(Home, NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: 9120092@ul.ie (peter obrien) Subject: Player for Wav and Au files Message-ID: <Cyp5vA.92y@ul.ie> Sender: usenet@ul.ie Organization: University of Limerick Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:04:21 GMT I'm looking for a player for Wav files and Au files. If somebody can point me in the right direction, ie ftp site, I'd appreciate it.Thanks Peter O'Brien, 9120092@ul.ie or obrienp@ul.ie
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OCR software for cube? Date: 3 Nov 1994 15:57:18 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39b18u$kjk@potogold.rmii.com> References: <ANDERSON.94Nov2154400@sapir.ling.yale.edu> In article <ANDERSON.94Nov2154400@sapir.ling.yale.edu> anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes: > It turns out suddenly that I need to scan a great deal of text into my > cube for editing purposes, and I haven't noticed any discussion > recently of what software there is for this purpose. What is there, > and what works well? And while I'm at it, recommendations for scanners > and scanner software would be useful too. I saw an announcement for a > package that supports a number of readily available scanners recently, > but naturally I deleted it because I didn't need to control a > scanner......at the time. ExpressOCR by VISUS is available in MAB. ScanTastic by Second Glance is an excellent package. It supports most of the popular HP and Epson scanners as well as others. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Player for Wav and Au files Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:44:51 -0500 Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Distribution: world Message-ID: <9411031144.AA51375@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> References: <Cyp5vA.92y@ul.ie> In article <Cyp5vA.92y@ul.ie>, 9120092@ul.ie (peter obrien) writes: > I'm looking for a player for Wav files and Au files. > If somebody can point me in the right direction, ie ftp site, > I'd appreciate it.Thanks Sun's .au sounds are int the same format as one type of NeXTStep .snd. The practical upshot of this is that you can rename Flonk.au to Flonk.snd, and double-click it to launch Sound.app. Don't know about .wav. Josh -- Joshua Juran =) | NeXTMail: jjuran@eos.hitc.com | It all comes down to one thing: complexity. Pine: jjuran@unicorn.dorm.umd.edu |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Message-ID: <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 17:05:38 GMT I finally got Latex2e up and running on my Gecko. Boy do some of the screen fonts look bad! I wonder if anyone else has this experience. I ran the experiment of opening the same document on a mono slab using -NXHost and everything looked fine. This makes me think that there is something set wrong in the MakeTeXpk command used to generate the fonts. Does anyone know what is going on? Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ? Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:41:56 GMT Organization: SSII Sender: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr Message-ID: <39b3sk$bfq@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net. Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ?? Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ? What are YOU doing in life ? I am a system administrator. Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english ..... Bye +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre DIDIERJEAN | | | | Administrateur Systeme UNIX | | Cisi, Aix-en-Provence | | France | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | email : cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@nautilus.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: Why doesn't pnistat find pnid? Message-ID: <1994Nov3.181129.12560@alw.nih.gov> Keywords: TransSys PNI SLIP Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:11:29 GMT Hello, I'm using TransSys PNI v1.13 on Motorola hardware (NeXTSTEP 3.2). I've noticed that the pnistat command does not find the pnid daemon: > buchanan:3# ./pnirun pni0 > > lot of stuff deleted > > buchanan:4# ./pnistat pni0 > ./pnistat: Error binding to dameon - is it running? > buchanan:5# I'm sure the pnid process exists because I can see it with ps(1). > buchanan:7# ps gaux > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > root 267 12.2 4.0 1.98M 656K p3 R 0:00 ps gaux > ... > root 234 0.0 6.4 2.02M 1.02M ? S 0:03 /etc/pni/pnid -c -n pni0 -f > ... Does anybody have any idea what's causing this? Please email your responses to buchanan@niehs.nih.gov (I'm not sure the posting address above is working). Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov)
From: marty@.sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 3 Nov 1994 18:17:02 GMT Organization: Isis Distributed Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. I'm running NS 3.2 on Intel. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax)
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Radiance program for NSFIP? Date: 3 Nov 1994 18:40:47 GMT Organization: GlobalCom Message-ID: <39barf$fgu@goodnews.globalcom.net> Hi. I know this might be sacreligious, but I would like to check into using the source-code available RADIANCE program from hobbes. lbl.gov . But, I don't have Developer for Next, only User. Thus, I can't really compile anything. Anyone who knows where I can find Radiance for NSFIP will have my gratitude. (I realize I won't get any graphical niceties, but since it is going to be running in the background, it won't matter. Thanks Patrick -no NextMail, yet
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: 3 Nov 1994 19:13:50 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <39bcpe$l23@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <9411021443.AA00062@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> Joshua Juran writes > Is there *any* newsreader for NeXTStep/PA-RISC? Yes, Eloquent from TakeThree, I believe, has an HP version of their Mail/News application. IT is a commercial product. > I'd be happy with a simple recompile of NewsGrazer (NeXT? Are > you reading this? Hello?). I tried NewsBase, but MMEdit.app > wouldn't compile. (And the binaries distributed are only > double-fat.) That was a great disappointment, when I discovered that NewsBase requires MMEdit, which is NOT triple-fat. > > Btw, what *are* NeXT's plans for NewsGrazer? NS 4.0? None? If > none, I'd love to see the source released so *somebody* can do > something useful with it. Unchanging code does not improve with > age, I'm afraid. Now that there exist commercial newsreaders, I would expect NeXT to *not* release source for NewsGrazer. Third parties need all the help they can get, and NewsGrazer for intel effective killed development of NewsGrazer Pro (whether it should have worked out that way is another question, but that was the consequence). Given that NewsBase *has* been released with source, I think the community should focus its efforts on that. The source for MMEdit is on the Fatted Calf CD-ROM. I'd be happy to NeXTMail it to anyone who wants to hack it into shape. I suspect it was built on something like NS3.1J, which wasn't quite compatible. Once it compiles on NS 3.2, I'm sure it would be trivial to get someone to put out a triple-fat version. NewsBase is quirky, but it is free, and I think we need to make the best of it. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Date: 3 Nov 1994 20:49:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <39bide$nbi@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> In article <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) writes: > I finally got Latex2e up and running on my Gecko. Boy do some of the > screen fonts look bad! I wonder if anyone else has this experience. > I ran the experiment of opening the same document on a mono slab using > -NXHost and everything looked fine. This makes me think that there is > something set wrong in the MakeTeXpk command used to generate the > fonts. Does anyone know what is going on? MakeTeXpk is just a shell script. If you look at it, you will see that it assumes 72 dpi for the screen. If the Gecko has a different resolution the resulting fonts will look terrible. I suggest you go in and change the line that says: MODE=nextscreen elif test $BDPI = 72 and see what happens. (May I suggest that you tar up your LaTeX2e installation and post it somewhere so that other NeXT users can just untar it, thereby saving themselves the hassle of installing it.) --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys-PNI-1.13 TTY problems Date: 3 Nov 1994 21:04:32 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <39bj90$bh0@pong.ping.at> References: <42141@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Keywords: pni slip ppp dev getty Originator: root@esprit In article <42141@dog.ee.lbl.gov> joe@msri.org (Joe Christy) writes: > Aaack, I'm at my wit's end. > > I've been trying to install and test TransSys-PNI-1.13 on a 68040 NeXT > cube to set up a SLIP connection to a Telebit NetBlazer using a Telebit > T2500 modem. As soon as the modem has dialed and connected the TTY > encapsulator looses its ability to receive characters from the tty, so the > very next expect fails. Has anyone else seen this problem? Has anyone > solved it? > ... Could it be, that you've a pending getty at this serial device?? The fact, that everything works fine until the 'CONNECT' from the modem, could mean, that somebody starts grabbing bytes from the device as soon as the 'CarrierDetect'-line becomes active. Waiting for CD is a usual behavior of getty... ____________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Organization: Madge Networks Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:54:48 GMT Message-ID: <Cyp5FD.4BM@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> kris (kris@xmission.com) wrote: : Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com) wrote: : : Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? : And is it still a "Windows in a window" emulator, or will it run Windoze apps : rootless, a la Co-Xist, etc.? I believe the following to be true! SoftPC4.0 for NEXTSTEP/Intel is different from other SoftPCs/SoftWindows products, because it is running on an Intel CPU and hence uses a different CPU emulation. Hence the guy who heard Insignia promising 486 emulation was probably listening to an anouncement about the mainline product. If you start-up Windows under NI SoftPC3.1x, and look in the Program Manager "About Box", you'll see that the NI product has been emulating a 486 for a good while now. But NI SoftPC running Windows has to share the processor with NEXTSTEP, and hence Windows can't be allowed to do all the hacky nasty things that it would do on a real processor. This currently means on all SoftPCs on NI that Windows is only allowed to run in standard mode. Perhaps the biggest new feature in NI SoftPC 4.0x is that Insignia have made it possible for certain apps (e.g. WP6) that on a real PC need enhanced mode can run in standard mode on SoftPC. Don't ask me how they do that. I believe you also get a free winsock.dll - previously the only one that would work was Novell's LAN Workplace one. There are also a considerable number of small improvements - e.g. NPX emulation is much improved. As to performance, the major difference is in Novell support, where NeXT and Insignia worked together to make things zip. But that's the difference from 3.11 - if you are running 3.10 you'll also notice much improved keyboard responsivenes under DOS, and general responsiveness (and reliability) much improved. These changes were made in 3.11, but they kept them for 4.0! SoftPC is still displaying the entire Windows desktop in one NeXT window. If you want to know why, compare the number of applications supported by SoftPC, with the much smaller number supported by Wabi or Wine. And you can run the PC version of DOOM full-screen under SoftPC! Mike.
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tailor and TeX Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:02:15 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39bml7$oi5@potogold.rmii.com> References: <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > Can anyone comment on whether and why it might be advantageous to > purchase Tailor if you are using TeX (or LaTeX)? > > -- > John Devlin > Department of Philosophy > The University of Michigan > Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003 Quoting Tailor's developer: "Tailor 2.0 loads and offers editibility for TeX/dvips generated PS files just as for any other PS files. So all benefits are equally valid (refer to Tailor brochure "Features and Benefits"). For example, you could use TeX to create complex captions and use Tailor to place them underneath your illustrations. There is only one caveat. You should tell TeX to use PostScript fonts for generating the PS file. On modern systems such as NEXTSTEP ;-) this is an easy thing to do, and it does not restrict you in any way, as far as I know. If instead you generate the PS file using the regular TeX fonts (or maybe the PS file was generated by a third party), all characters in the PS file are resolution dependent bitmaps. Tailor 2.0 will still load the file, but you cannot edit the text anymore (since the characters are bitmap images) but you can still manipulate them as regular graphics. Also, especially for multiple page documents, the load & edit process becomes very time consuming." I have also spoke to TeX users who claim that Tailor is able to accurately load and open the large TeX files which seem to choke Preview. Demos for Tailor 2.0 are available at several of the more popular FTP sites including ftp.cs.orst. Hope this information helps. Let me know if you need more. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xfe.app for NS 2.1 ?? Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:37:17 -0500 Organization: Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiiIbxO00awYI2QUtN@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi, Does anybody have an old version of Xfe.app around that runs on Nextstep 2.1. I just installed X11R5 on my system and would like to use it in conjunction with Xfe.app Thanks, -Rudi \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ Rudi Stouffs Department of Architecture Carnegie Mellon University [rstouffs+@cmu.edu] _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:31:37 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <39boc9$sim@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <39bcpe$l23@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Joshua Juran writes > Is there *any* newsreader for NeXTStep/PA-RISC? > I'd be happy with a simple recompile of NewsGrazer (NeXT? Are > you reading this? Hello?). I tried NewsBase, but MMEdit.app > wouldn't compile. (And the binaries distributed are only > double-fat.) Ask and ye shall receive! I've received an "anonymous" donation of HPPA-compiled MMEdit.app. Unfortunately, I don't have an HP machine, so I can't test it myself. I'd be happy to NeXTmail it to anyone who'd like to try it out, although the other explicitly refuses to support it. It someone wanted to take over responsibility for it, I'd could try to get the patched source code for it. If it works, we could probably get it compiled triple fat and put on the archives. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
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From: jamesg@insane.apana.org.au (James Gambit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 10:30:50 +1000 Organization: Insane Internet Message-ID: <jamesg-0411941030500001@dialup-47.slip.dialup> References: <9410200357.AA05452@mnp.next.com> Can i ask a stupid question here as i'm trying to get hold of NeXTStep for a Mac or Intel based machine is this actually possible at the moment or am i in dreamland thanks for any reply. James Gambit In article <9410200357.AA05452@mnp.next.com>, mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM wrote: > Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: > > Would even a thread safe AppKit be necessary? Look at X on > > Solaris. I can run 2 X programs and a calculational job > > in the background and the X server. I don't think that > > Xlib is threaded or even needs to be. (local data is > > for each process--you link Xlib with the program, > > not the shared server). > > > > Multiprocessing is still nice, as long as there are multiple > > processes that could be run at once, right? > > Thanks, Matt. A thread-safe AppKit certainly isn't necessary (or > even desirable, for performance reasons) to take advantage of a > multiprocessor environment. The operation of a GUI application > always involves at least two threads, one in the app, and one in the > display system (shared among many apps). A simple app that didn't do > much other than generate lots of PostScript (Xox, for example) would > perform much better on a 2 processor system than on a uniprocessor > (for a given CPU). > > Given the large number of Unix processes and multithreaded tasks that > run in a networked NEXTSTEP environment, a SMP environment will > provide a definite performance kick for NEXTSTEP. Sort of obvious, I > know, but I thought folks on USENET could use some reassurance that > the engineers at NeXT are aware of this. > > When NEXTSTEP is targeted for an architecture that includes a > well-defined fully implemented SMP extension with significant market > penetration (see SPARC), I'd bet NEXTSTEP will support the SMP > extension on that platform. (see also NEXTSTEP for SPARC press > releases) > > As I mentioned before, this hasn't happened yet in the Intel > marketplace. I really hope things settle out soon, and we see a > single clean, fully implemented SMP standard emerge for the Intel > platforms. > > Mike Paquette > ===== > I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. > Pardon the weird posting paths. My normal provider is low on inodes. >
From: mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Player for Wav and Au files Date: 4 Nov 1994 10:52:08 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <39d3oo$30r@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <Cyp5vA.92y@ul.ie> In article <Cyp5vA.92y@ul.ie> 9120092@ul.ie (peter obrien) writes: > I'm looking for a player for Wav files and Au files. > If somebody can point me in the right direction, ie ftp site, I'd appreciate it.Thanks > > Peter O'Brien, 9120092@ul.ie or obrienp@ul.ie Try using GISO.app. You can convert the wav files to whatever (snd inclusive) Luis -- /// (. .) +oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Luis Mandel mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | | http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~mandel |
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:10:41 +1000 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <godwin.419.007856EA@unixg.ubc.ca> References: <damonc.11.0015CFE3@damonc.aetnacan.com> <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> <Cyp5FD.4BM@madge1.demon.co.uk> In article <Cyp5FD.4BM@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) writes: >From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)>Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? >Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:54:48 GMT >kris (kris@xmission.com) wrote: >: Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com) wrote: >: : Has SoftPC 4.0 been released yet? Pricing? Performance? >: And is it still a "Windows in a window" emulator, or will it run Windoze > apps >: rootless, a la Co-Xist, etc.? >I believe the following to be true! >SoftPC4.0 for NEXTSTEP/Intel is different from other SoftPCs/SoftWindows >products, because it is running on an Intel CPU and hence uses a different >CPU emulation. Hence the guy who heard Insignia promising 486 emulation >was probably listening to an anouncement about the mainline product. If >you start-up Windows under NI SoftPC3.1x, and look in the Program Manager >"About Box", you'll see that the NI product has been emulating a 486 for >a good while now. >But NI SoftPC running Windows has to share the processor with NEXTSTEP, >and hence Windows can't be allowed to do all the hacky nasty things >that it would do on a real processor. This currently means on all >SoftPCs on NI that Windows is only allowed to run in standard mode. >Perhaps the biggest new feature in NI SoftPC 4.0x is that Insignia have >made it possible for certain apps (e.g. WP6) that on a real PC need >enhanced mode can run in standard mode on SoftPC. Don't ask me how >they do that. >I believe you also get a free winsock.dll - previously the only one that >would work was Novell's LAN Workplace one. >There are also a considerable number of small improvements - e.g. NPX >emulation is much improved. >As to performance, the major difference is in Novell support, where >NeXT and Insignia worked together to make things zip. But that's the >difference from 3.11 - if you are running 3.10 you'll also notice much >improved keyboard responsivenes under DOS, and general responsiveness >(and reliability) much improved. These changes were made in 3.11, but >they kept them for 4.0! >SoftPC is still displaying the entire Windows desktop in one NeXT window. >If you want to know why, compare the number of applications supported >by SoftPC, with the much smaller number supported by Wabi or Wine. And Last time I checked Wine only managed to map 60% of the windows calls? eer the only thing u can do is eer minesweeper???;-) >you can run the PC version of DOOM full-screen under SoftPC! But can we have sound though??? Os/2 can do it but no sound=( >Mike.
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 3 Nov 1994 23:13:12 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <39bqq8$mb6@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <396kom$p1k@xmission.xmission.com> <1994Nov2.222300.24823@seer.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Nov2.222300.24823@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) writes: > >This version still run Windows in a window. The rootless version was >announced by Steve Jobs at Expo, planned (he said) for 4.0 NeXTSTEP. Which is planned for next summer. - db -- In Aikido, we don't really "throw" you. We just prevent you from maintaining your upright position.
From: gayed@eye3.psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Running NEXTSTEP for Intel on an IBM ThinkPad 755C Date: 4 Nov 1994 01:52:31 GMT Organization: UCLA Life Sciences Computing Message-ID: <39c44v$lvv@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience running NEXTSTEP on a laptop. I'm particularly interested in the IBM ThinkPad 755C. Does the Intel port of NEXTSTEP work on this machine? Will I run into any hardware problems? If anyone has run it on a machine like this, how fast is it compared to Motorala hardware running NEXTSTEP 3.2? I am currently using Motorala hardware with a lot of neat programs I would like to keep - what is the experience of users out there compiling Motorala specific software running in NeXT or NEXTSTEP on the new NEXSTEP for Intel os? If you have the source code for the programs you want to port, is it relatively painless, or are there a lot of bug fixes? Are there questions I should be asking or aware of that I have not voiced here (there must be tons, I know). ANY information on this dreamy scheme of mine will be helpful. Thanks in advance for posts and replies via email. My email address is gayed@psych.ucla.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@V,C!<='@Q,C0P7'1X,3@V,%QT M>#(T.#!<='@S,3`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0S-#!<='@T.3@P7'1X-38P,%QT>#8R M,C!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!)('=A<R!W;VYD97)I M;F<@:68@86YY;VYE(&]U="!T:&5R92!H87,@:&%D(&%N>2!E>'!E<FEE;F-E M(')U;FYI;F<@3D585%-415`@;VX@82!L87!T;W`N($DG;2!P87)T:6-U;&%R M;'D@:6YT97)E<W1E9"!I;B!T:&4@24)-(%1H:6YK4&%D(#<U-4,N($1O97,@ M=&AE($EN=&5L('!O<G0@;V8@3D585%-415`@=V]R:R!O;B!T:&ES(&UA8VAI M;F4_(%=I;&P@22!R=6X@:6YT;R!A;GD@:&%R9'=A<F4@<')O8FQE;7,_($EF M(&%N>6]N92!H87,@<G5N(&ET(&]N(&$@;6%C:&EN92!L:6ME('1H:7,L(&AO M=R!F87-T(&ES(&ET(&-O;7!A<F5D('1O($UO=&]R86QA(&AA<F1W87)E(')U M;FYI;F<@3D585%-415`@,RXR/R!)(&%M(&-U<G)E;G1L>2!U<VEN9R!-;W1O M<F%L82!H87)D=V%R92!W:71H(&$@;&]T(&]F(&YE870@<')O9W)A;7,@22!W M;W5L9"!L:6ME('1O(&ME97`@+2!W:&%T(&ES('1H92!E>'!E<FEE;F-E(&]F M('5S97)S(&]U="!T:&5R92!C;VUP:6QI;F<@36]T;W)A;&$@<W!E8VEF:6,@ M<V]F='=A<F4@<G5N;FEN9R!I;B!.95A4(&]R($Y%6%135$50(&]N('1H92!N M97<@3D584U1%4"!F;W(@26YT96P@;W,_($EF('EO=2!H879E('1H92!S;W5R M8V4@8V]D92!F;W(@=&AE('!R;V=R86US('EO=2!W86YT('1O('!O<G0L(&ES M(&ET(')E;&%T:79E;'D@<&%I;FQE<W,L(&]R(&%R92!T:&5R92!A(&QO="!O M9B!B=6<@9FEX97,_($%R92!T:&5R92!Q=65S=&EO;G,@22!S:&]U;&0@8F4@ M87-K:6YG(&]R(&%W87)E(&]F('1H870@22!H879E(&YO="!V;VEC960@:&5R M92`H=&AE<F4@;75S="!B92!T;VYS+"!)(&MN;W<I+B!!3ED@:6YF;W)M871I M;VX@;VX@=&AI<R!D<F5A;7D@<V-H96UE(&]F(&UI;F4@=VEL;"!B92!H96QP M9G5L+B!4:&%N:W,@:6X@861V86YC92`@9F]R('!O<W1S(&%N9"!R97!L:65S M('9I82!E;6%I;"Y<"EP*37D@96UA:6P@861D<F5S<R!I<R!G87EE9$!P<WEC -:"YU8VQA+F5D=0I]"EP* `
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Date: 3 Nov 1994 18:46:32 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <39c7a8$s00@comix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> I've been having aliasing problems with TeXView on NS3.2FIP. I've found that I can overcome my aliasing problems while printing by changing the default resolution line in ~/TeX/tex/ps/config.ps I have not yet found a solution for screen output, but one is hinted at on page 4 of the 3.2 Release Notes. It says "... You must create a format (.fmt) file on the type of NEXTSTEP computer you plan to use the file on -- that is, on either a NeXT computer or an Intel-based computer. You can't use a format file created on a NeXT computer on an Intel- based computer, nor can you do the reverse. ..." Maybe someone else has make sense of this. John Candlish . . .
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Date: 4 Nov 1994 04:15:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <39ccho$phc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <39c7a8$s00@comix.cs.uoregon.edu> In article <39c7a8$s00@comix.cs.uoregon.edu> whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) writes: > I've been having aliasing problems with TeXView on NS3.2FIP. I've found that > I can overcome my aliasing problems while printing by changing the default > resolution line in ~/TeX/tex/ps/config.ps As I recall the default print resolution is 400 dpi, which would certainly not be right for non-NeXT printers. > I have not yet found a solution for screen output, but one is hinted at > on page 4 of the 3.2 Release Notes. It says > > "... You must create a format (.fmt) file on the type of NEXTSTEP computer you > plan to use the file on -- that is, on either a NeXT computer or an Intel-based > computer. You can't use a format file created on a NeXT computer on an Intel- > based computer, nor can you do the reverse. ..." The ftm file is simply plain.tex (or whatever) in "compiled" format. This doesn't have anything to do with displaying the text. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Date: 3 Nov 1994 20:17:51 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <39cclf$31i@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> I too have been having aliasing problems with NeXTTeX. I am using TeX with LaTeX2.09 as distributed with NS3.2FIP. I have found that by changing the default resolution line in the ~/tex/ps/config.ps file I can eliminate the aliasing I was experienceing with my printer, but their does not seem to be such an easy fix for jaggies on the screen. Recompiling dvips after modifing its Makefile ( and MakeTeXPK ) is non-trivial. The 3.2 Release Notes hint at a possible solution (cause ?). "... You must first create a format (.fmt) file on the type of NEXTSTEP computer you plan to use the file on -- that is, on either a NeXT computer or an Intel-based computer. You can't use a format file created on a NeXT computer on an Intel-based compter, nor can you do the reverse ..." Maybe someone could better explain how this is done? John Candlish . . .
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Screen fonts for TeXView on NS/HP Date: 4 Nov 1994 06:11:55 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <39cjbb$87s@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Nov3.170538.3284@galois.mit.edu> <39cclf$31i@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu> John Boyd Candlish (whizer@cs.uoregon.edu) wrote: : be such an easy fix for jaggies on the screen. Recompiling dvips after : modifing its Makefile ( and MakeTeXPK ) is non-trivial. There is nothing to recompile after change in MakeTeXPK. One may adjust resolutions in config.ps configuration file. Apart of that recompiling dvips is as non-trivial as typing 'make'. I did that a number of times changing versions. --mj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Fiend: How to add an image to a level icon Message-ID: <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 07:28:38 GMT Hi, in the Help panel, i.e. in 'ab_Instructions.rtfd' an image is shown on the Misc level icon. How can I do this for my several levels? Robert. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\________________________________________________
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Keystroke Recorder Date: 3 Nov 1994 23:13:59 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133) Message-ID: <39cmvn$9n8@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> It seems I saw a posting on csn.announce recently, that a submission was made of an app that would record keystrokes into a script file. That sounds like a really neat tool, but I can't recall the name of the app. Anyone remember what and where? thanks, Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nlee@s6.math.umn.edu (Namyong Lee) Subject: Corel Gallery CD and .bmf Message-ID: <nlee.783932721@s6.math.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 07:05:21 GMT Hi, I just got the Corel Gallery CD(which has 10000 clip arts!). However, it has only .bmf format files and I have no idea how to read those files while I can read most other formats (such as .bmp .pbm .ps .gif .tiff .jpeg .pm X11 bitmap Sun Rasterfile .eps Adobe Illustrator format .pict IRIS etc etc...) Any idea? Thanks for any suggestions. nlee@math.umn.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Date: 4 Nov 1994 08:48:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <394bjl$gi8@news.doit.wisc.edu> hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden) writes: > Apparently next has released some sort of QuickTime like facilities > for nexts called NeXTTIME. I just checked NextAnswers and it > doesn't have ant information on NextTime. Is NextTime real and > how does one get it? Only one T, as in NeXTIME. Actually NeXT doesn't use a lowercase "e", so their official spelling is NEXTIME. It can't do all formats of QuickTime movies, but it can do Cinepak (the most common), and maybe a few others. Version 1.0 is real, and has been shipping for a few months. You can get a copy by calling 1-800-848-NeXT, and going down their phone tree to get to someone that accepts orders. I believe the cost is $90 or so. Available for intel, motorola, and probably HP's PA-RISC (only if using NeXTSTEP, of course). If you feel like waiting a month, and feel like getting the upgrade to NeXTSTEP release 3.3, you can get a free copy of NeXTIME by ordering NS-3.3 ahead of time. NS-3.3 upgrade will cost about $190. Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 version of User edition. > I first heard about it by a reference to it on ftp.cs.orst.edu > ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/graphics/QuickTime1.0-CDlinks.ReadMe Glad to be of some help! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jfb@tequila Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: 04 Nov 94 09:51:52 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov495152@tequila> References: <9411021443.AA00062@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> <39bcpe$l23@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > I'd be happy with a simple recompile of NewsGrazer (NeXT? Are > you reading this? Hello?). I tried NewsBase, but MMEdit.app > wouldn't compile. (And the binaries distributed are only > double-fat.) That was a great disappointment, when I discovered that NewsBase requires MMEdit, which is NOT triple-fat. I have recompiled MMEdit on HP (and I currently use it), if somebody interested I can make it availble by ftp and /or mail it Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
From: jfb@tequila Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: 04 Nov 94 10:20:37 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov4102037@tequila> References: <9411021443.AA00062@lo-mac3108B.hitc.com> <39bcpe$l23@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jfb.94Nov495152@tequila> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have download Newsbase.app and MMEdit.app compiled for HP-PA; they are available by ftp at : ftp.biomath.jussieu.fr in /pub/hp/hp-nextstep as MMEdit_HP_app.tar.gz and NewsBase_HP_app.tar.gz. These are not trifat app; if somebody interested in sources, makefile or trifat version let me know (I just have no time now, it'll be easier in a week or two) Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Tailor and TeX References: <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Nov4110528@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon) Organization: ICAPB, Edinburgh University In-Reply-To: jdevlin@umich.edu's message of 2 Nov 1994 19:19:26 GMT Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:05:27 GMT In article <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > Can anyone comment on whether and why it might be advantageous to > purchase Tailor if you are using TeX (or LaTeX)? Because one might prefer loading the output into Tailor and correcting something trivial visually to spending hours hacking style files and perusing various manuals. Editors of academic journals very often insist on ridiculous little changes that your standard style files refuse to give. One finds oneself facing *interesting* questions like: "How do I teach BibTeX to output `J. theor. Biol.' instead of `J. Theor. Biol.'?", or "How do I inform LaTeX that there is plenty of space for that figure caption BENEATH the over-large figure; no need to put the caption in the middle of the plot?" And, by the way, that should be "Figure 1:", not "Figure 1." for this journal. Etc, etc. There are several ways to cope: 1.) You really like computers. Write new style files. Good luck getting any research done. 2.) You really don't like computers. Get a secretary to TYPE your manuscript and to fix the rest with white-out and glue. Good luck. 3.) Use MS Word. ;-) 4.) Wait for the glorious, market-driven, totally networked, digital publishing revolution when all editors with archaic standards will be put against the (virtual) wall. Good luck getting Rupert Murdoch (who owns the network) to publish your study on the changing role of marriage on Lombok. 5.) Buy Tailor. Ok, I see I am getting a bit carried away here. Sorry about that... To answer your question, then, I have found Tailor quite useful for correcting minor problems with styles and for fixing graphics. It is not good for fixing things *in* the text, but I see no reason why you would want that. For moving things around on the page and such, Tailor comes in very handy. I'll be happy to answer specific questions, -Magnus -- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology and Evolution The University of Chicago Temporary address: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger) ICAPB The University of Edinburgh King's Buildings West Mains Road Edinburgh, EH9 3JT U.K.
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 upgrade order from Europe Date: 4 Nov 1994 11:51:27 GMT Message-ID: <39d77v$l3c@aragorn.unibe.ch> Telesales, please couldn't you give us an email address to order the NS 3.3 upgrade?! My former post hasn't been answered. It just can't be, I'm sure you don't want to loose European orders. I will keep posting this until a have a clear answer: We only take orders by phone (which would be ridiculous) or ... Thanks, -- Moritz Willers Institute of Theoretical Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 3012 Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: dana@mcs.com (Dana Shadrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Recomendations on OCR Software? Date: 4 Nov 1994 12:39:09 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <39da1d$nhp@News1.mcs.com> Hello, I'm looking for any recommendations on OCR and scanning software. I have the demos for GS Corp's eXTRAREAD and OCRServant and was wondering what other software is available. I'm also looking for recommendations on scanners and scanner software. I am looking for the ability to scan both color images and text. Thanks, Dana Shadrick dana@mcs.com
From: jfb@tequila Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeXview on HP_PA Date: 04 Nov 94 14:03:19 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov414319@tequila> References: <394bjl$gi8@news.doit.wisc.edu> <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain this is the problem; when I launch TeXview.app to view a dvi file, if I have included in the LaTex article postscript images (.eps) Texwiew hangs although a dvips of the dvi file is perfectly correct. This happens on a gecko 712 with 32 mo of RAM, and it *does not happens* on another gecko with 64 Mo. Is it a known bug ? --- Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 4 Nov 1994 14:00:22 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <39depm$g6l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> In article <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes: > >Although I can not speak to its performance, SoftPC 4.0 is now available. > >It is for Intel hardware only and sells for $249. It is available from > >OpenSource. > > > Is this the version that will let you run dos/windows software > compiled for 486's? I seem to remember Insignia promising to > add 486 emulation to SoftPC. If not, what does it claim to support? > (enhanced mode windows apps, I hope) I called Insignia and learned that SoftPC 4.0 still DOES NOT support AutoCAD release 12, which is a 32-bit protected-mode DOS application. They do, however, claim to support "enhanced mode" windows applications. Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys-PNI-1.13 TTY problems Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 4 Nov 1994 06:33:11 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <39dgn7$2bo@runner.uucp> References: <42141@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Joe Christy (joe@msri.org) wrote: : Aaack, I'm at my wit's end. : I've been trying to install and test TransSys-PNI-1.13 on a 68040 NeXT : cube to set up a SLIP connection to a Telebit NetBlazer using a Telebit : T2500 modem. As soon as the modem has dialed and connected the TTY : encapsulator looses its ability to receive characters from the tty, so the : very next expect fails. Has anyone else seen this problem? Has anyone : solved it? ... : Joe Christy | Head of Mathematical Computing |Two wrongs or src host 229.234.254.10) I seem to be having the same problem with TransSys-PNI-1.13 on a NeXT Station Color (non-turbo) with a Telebit WorldBlazer trying to SLIP into another NeXT Station. Two seconds after the connect, the server disconnects. Any suggestions? -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend: How to add an image to a level icon Date: 4 Nov 1994 09:37:54 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <39dh02$je8@panix.com> References: <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> In <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes: >in the Help panel, i.e. in 'ab_Instructions.rtfd' an image is shown on the >Misc level icon. How can I do this for my several levels? You can't, yet, but enough people are asking for it that it's bound to come within a few releases. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Message-ID: <Cyqw67.tK@nexus.ping.de> Sender: usenet@nexus.ping.de Organization: My PRIVATE site References: <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:30:06 GMT In article <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > $190. Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > version of User edition. Is this true????? -- Juergen Moellenhoff EMail: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (NEXTMAIL OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Organization: Madge Networks Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:16:27 GMT Message-ID: <CyqpzH.6Ju@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <398ggd$36e@potogold.rmii.com> <398ted$2iq@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Mark Powell (powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov) wrote: : At one point they were calling the white hardware version by a different : name,, softwindows I think. Now it has the same name as the Black version : and the logical upgrade number from 3.0 to 4.0. So are they going to : offer a transfer program or try to get as much $$$ from us as possible by : saying it is not the same. Probably the latter:(( No, SoftPC on NEXTSTEP/Intel has never been called SoftWindows - that's the name Insignia now uses for the significantly different product on non-Intel platforms. As for free upgrades, think of it this way. The NeXT marketplace for applications is very small, and a number of developers have already quit because they make next to no profit (if not a big loss). If you demand that developers give you free upgrades for life, they are going to make even less money, and are much more likely to stop development. Now I know that SoftPC 4.0 for Intel took a huge amount of development since the 3.0 Motorolla product, so it seems pretty reasonable to me that Insignia charge you a new licence to get some of their development costs back. To make it clear - I don't know what their policy is, but I think what you're asking for is unreasonable. Of course if you disagree, you are at perfect liberty not to buy the Intel product, leave your 68K box on the network, and NXHost the display from your existing NeXT. Of course you'll be stuck with an old version that is much much slower than the current version, and doesn't run as many applications - if that's good enough for you, great! Sorry if this sounds a bit aggressive - I just feel that often people lose track of commercial realities when they criticise application suppliers. If you think there's a fortune to be made in PC emulation, then why not set-up your own company. Mike -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
From: jreiss@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend: How to add an image to a level icon Date: 04 Nov 1994 15:00:48 GMT Organization: In your dreams... Message-ID: <JREISS.94Nov4100048@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> <39dh02$je8@panix.com> In-reply-to: dcl@panix.com's message of 4 Nov 1994 09:37:54 -0500 In article <39dh02$je8@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >In <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes: >>in the Help panel, i.e. in 'ab_Instructions.rtfd' an image is shown on the >>Misc level icon. How can I do this for my several levels? > >You can't, yet, but enough people are asking for it that it's >bound to come within a few releases. I think this might point to another problem. In Fiend 1.2, the permissions are improperly set on two of the .tiff files in the app wrapper. They're set to be owner rw, but no permissions for anyone else. So if you install Fiend as root and then try to run it from another account, you get a blank dock icon instead of the cute (?) little fiendish guy. This can be fixed, of course, by su'ing to the user who owns Fiend.app, cd'ing into the app wrapper, and running a "chmod a+r *". That sounds like it might fix the problem being described here. Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | I spent twelve quarters working towards my degree, and | | ________ | all I got was this lousy .sig! | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - Me |
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend: How to add an image to a level icon Date: 4 Nov 1994 10:16:55 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <39dj97$t0i@panix.com> References: <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> <39dh02$je8@panix.com> <JREISS.94Nov4100048@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In <JREISS.94Nov4100048@localhost.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Joe Reiss writes: >In article <39dh02$je8@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >>In <1994Nov4.072838.20915@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes: >>>in the Help panel, i.e. in 'ab_Instructions.rtfd' an image is shown on the >>>Misc level icon. How can I do this for my several levels? >> >>You can't, yet, but enough people are asking for it that it's >>bound to come within a few releases. > I think this might point to another problem. <description of bad permissions in Fiend.app causing a blank Fiend Dock icon> > This can be fixed, of course, by su'ing to the > user who owns Fiend.app, cd'ing into the app wrapper, and running a > "chmod a+r *". >That sounds like it might fix the problem being described here. Oh. Thanks for the info. - dcl
From: hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Date: 4 Nov 1994 15:29:01 GMT Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <39djvt$nv6@pong.ping.at> References: <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> Originator: root@esprit In article <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: # Magnan Francois writes # # # # I am using Transys pni 1.11 and when I want to hang up I do # # # # /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -d -c down pni0 # # # # When I am logged in as root it works well but no other user can do it. # # I get a message like: "Can't find pnid deamon, Is it running?" # # What am I doing wrong? # # # # This is happening to me too. What's going on? # I don't think it used to happen. Did I accidently change something that # affects this? # # I have to su as root and HUP the pnid. # As far as I know, the pnid creates a file with it's pid in it. Tools like pnistat look for this file to connect to the daemon. Maybe the access restrictions to that file or the folder it's in are the problem - but please don't ask me, where this file is created - I know I saw it once, but can't remember where. Apparently it's _not_ inside the /etc/pni tree... ____________________________________ Hannes Tiefenbrunner hannes@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: MUX Driver 1.4 Problems: Is There A Newer Version? Message-ID: <CyqxxM.LLu@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 14:08:10 GMT The version I have is 1.4, and there are some problems with NXFax and UUCP...is there a later version somewhere? Thanks in advance, Damon F. Cooper
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Date: 4 Nov 1994 15:56:22 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39dlj6$6ob@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <Cyqw67.tK@nexus.ping.de> In article <Cyqw67.tK@nexus.ping.de> jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) writes: > > $190. Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > > about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > > Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > > version of User edition. > > Is this true????? I think that what was implied here is that NS-DEVELOPER-3.2 is required to work with NS-USER-3.3. Earlier versions of Developer than 3.2 won't work with 3.3. I've heard that the reason there isn't a NS-Developer-3.3 is that they're working very hard on both EOF and on NS-Developer-4.0. I hope this is true -- I'd much rather see a stable 4.0 development environment in June, than a few minor enhancements now, and have to wait until Dec95 for 4.0. -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: Free X Client for Intel? What is mouseX? Message-ID: <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:26:53 GMT I'd suuuuure like to be able to run X apps from our SUN boxes, but I've been unable to find any X Client software for Intel on the archives... However, I DID find (on the German ftp site) a package called "mouseX" in the Intel directory... The magic question is: WHAT IS mouseX? Is it an X Client I can compile for NS Intel? Is anybody out there using it successfully? THANKS! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:51:12 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39doq0$7fl@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <39dlj6$6ob@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> I don't know what everybody's complaining about. I bought the upgrade for $79 (with shipping) last week. Seemed reasonable enough to me. What I'm really looking forward to is a rootless window version of SoftPC. When I can run Quicken, NewtonConnectionKit, and MS-Word right next to my other applications, I'll be happy. -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:53:09 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39dotl$7fm@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <39doq0$7fl@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Oops. typed into the wrong followup window -- the Subject should have been "Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available?" In article <39doq0$7fl@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) writes: > I don't know what everybody's complaining about. I bought the > upgrade for $79 (with shipping) last week. Seemed reasonable > enough to me. > > What I'm really looking forward to is a rootless window version > of SoftPC. When I can run Quicken, NewtonConnectionKit, and > MS-Word right next to my other applications, I'll be happy. > > -- > Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist > Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office > 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager > St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:53:17 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39dott$7fn@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <CyqpzH.6Ju@madge1.demon.co.uk> I don't know what everybody's complaining about. I bought the upgrade for $79 (with shipping) last week. Seemed reasonable enough to me. What I'm really looking forward to is a rootless window version of SoftPC. When I can run Quicken, NewtonConnectionKit, and MS-Word right next to my other applications, I'll be happy. -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Recomendations on OCR Software? Date: 4 Nov 1994 18:54:38 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39e01e$ahi@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39da1d$nhp@News1.mcs.com> In article <39da1d$nhp@News1.mcs.com> dana@mcs.com (Dana Shadrick) writes: : : : :Hello, : : :I'm looking for any recommendations on OCR and scanning software. I have :the demos for GS Corp's eXTRAREAD and OCRServant and was wondering what :other software is available. I'm also looking for recommendations on :scanners and scanner software. : :I am looking for the ability to scan both color images and text. : :Thanks, :Dana Shadrick :dana@mcs.com Below is information about one OCR package and two scanning software packages that are available for NEXTSTEP. The developers are listed with each entry. These packages are also available from OpenSource Inc. Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` OCR Express Character Recognition software for NEXTSTEP. OCR Express uses the OCR technology which underlies several of Caere's retail products. It is comprised of an OCR technology made up of two components ...(1) the AnyFont OCR Engine, which recognizes document images at 300 dpi and above, and (2) the AnyFax OCR Engine, a neural net technology, which recognizes images below 300 dpi (i,.e. typical fax documents are transmitted at 200 X 200 dpi or 200 X 100 dpi). By utilizing the AnyFont/AnyFax Engines in our API, the integrator can fully insert Caere's OCR technology directly into their own NEXTSTEP Application. Also included is fully integrated spell checking for English and eleven (11) Western European languages, plus we have recently integrated Caere's proprietary AnyPage dynamic auto-threshholding technology which works with gray or colored image backgrounds, and their proprietary Supercompression technique which reduces text-images 5-8 times beyond traditional compression algorithms. Available as a FAT binary and can be embedded in PaperSight Price $499 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Visual Understanding Systems, Inc. ScanOmatic Scanning Software ScanOmatic is the first real shipping scanning software for all NEXTSTEP architectures (Motorola, Intel, PA-Risc) and the most popular scanners. ScanOmatic supports desktop scanners like the HP ScanJet family, the Umax scanners, all HSD scanners as well as the Rayven X-Ray scanners on HP-PA RISC, the NeXT computers and on most of the Intels systems. Supported Scanners: HP ScanJet: II, IIc, IIcx, IIp Umax: UC630, UC80, UC1200 ... HSD: color, mono XRS: RSU-1, X-Ray Scanner (currently not in this binary) And any scanner, which offers a compatible mode to one of the above named. Price $295 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Interpersonal Computing To Order OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN order@opensource.com ScanTastic Scanner driver software for NEXTSTEP. ScanTastic Version 2 provides NEXTSTEP connectivity to various color image scanners for both Intel- and Motorola-based platforms. ScanTastic features a Customizable Icon Bar that provides a simple method for choosing scanner settings based on output requirements. An interactive preview zone allows adjustments to be made to the image before the final scan is committed. A tool palette is provided for area selection and zooming. The user has access to such advanced controls as Precision Tone Curves, Brightness & Contrast Sliders, Sharpness control and Channel Independent Image Balance-all in an elegant, accessible user interface. In an effort to make scanners more productive, ScanTastic has automated features that provide Copier and Fax functions. With the simple click of a button, ScanTastic will automatically scan an image directly to a printer or fax modem. ScanTastic is available for selected scanners from Epson, Hewlett-Packard, HSD, Umax, and XRS. Price $295 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Second Glance Software To Order OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN order@opensource.com
From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? Date: 4 Nov 1994 19:26:20 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <39e1ss$hvh@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <CyJ27n.38s@blackmaus.com> <1994Nov1.184348.1566@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Of course, there's eText Version 5 Release .8, from http://www.etext.caltech.edu/eTextEngine/
From: russell@mik.uky.edu (russell mays) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: Cinepak or QuickTime CD-ROMS Date: 4 Nov 1994 19:52:39 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Distribution: usa Message-ID: <39e3e7$idd@s.ms.uky.edu> During NextStep Expo '94, there were some Cinepak or Quicktime movie clips being played on NextStep machines demonstrating NextTime. If anyone has information on where to find Cinepak or Quicktime CD-ROMS, please let me know. I am primarily interested in ones that have movie clips or full-length movies like the ones shown at NextStep Expo. Thanks in advance! Russell Mays russell@f1.facts.uky.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend: How to add an image to a level icon Date: 4 Nov 1994 14:02:57 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411042000.AA26935@alleg.EDU> in the Help panel, i.e. in 'ab_Instructions.rtfd' an image is shown on the Misc level icon. How can I do this for my several levels? Robert. Hmm... I think this is listed in the release notes as an item to come (Tiffs for levels). If there is a way I don't know what it is. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: ProAudioPlus Driver Message-ID: <Cyr5G7.7vD@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:50:31 GMT I've recently fixed a problem with my ProAudio16 driver so that it works with my Adaptec 1541cf SCSI card. It was a minor fix to the code. I found a really neat driver on orst, though, called ProAudioPlus. This is a driver that has a mixer panel in the preferences and I can turn up the cd input, the external input, and the microphone input independently. Unfortunately, this driver hasn't been fixed. Anyone have either the source or a fixed version of this driver? Mario
From: wlod@MCS.COM (Steve Wlodkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MUX Driver 1.4 Problems: Is There A Newer Version? Date: 4 Nov 1994 14:55:17 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Message-ID: <39e73l$q79@Mercury.mcs.com> References: <CyqxxM.LLu@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net wrote: : The version I have is 1.4, and there are some problems with NXFax and : UUCP...is there a later version somewhere? Hey Damon, What's your email address? Neither damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net nor damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com seem to work. -- --Steve Wlodkowski wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Free X Client for Intel? What is mouseX? Date: 4 Nov 1994 22:55:25 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39ee4t$fa9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> In article <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net writes: > I'd suuuuure like to be able to run X apps from our SUN boxes, but I've > been unable to find any X Client software for Intel on the archives... There is no free X client software for NextStep Intel. Mouse X only runs on Motorolla. I would certainly be happy if somebody would compile it for Intel. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CDPlayer acting strangely Date: 4 Nov 1994 22:12:51 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <39ebl3$blu@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> My CDPlayer.app doesn't work properly any more. When I log in as user "bill", it claims it cannot find the cdrom drive. In the monitor, I get cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied But if I log in as "root", everything is fine. In the past, CDPlayer always worked no matter how I logged in. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks. -- Bill Anderson Department of Mathematics and Statistics McGill University (bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend 1.2 Hidden feature? Date: 4 Nov 1994 17:28:50 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.EDU> Maybe it's just some weird thing, but I noticed for the first time today that when I change levels in Fiend (v 1.2) it hides all of the apps that are running out of that level. Is this new or have I been just _really_ unobservant? (a distinct possibility) I suppose some might call this a feature, and others a bug, depending on their view.... TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Date: 4 Nov 1994 20:10:01 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <39e4ep$r7s@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Cyqw67.tK@nexus.ping.de> jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) writes: > > gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > $190. Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > > about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > > Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > > version of User edition. > > Is this true????? What I wrote is true. What you wrote as the subject of this thread is false... What I said is that developer versions *before* NS-3.2 will not run with NS-3.3 User. NS-3.2 developer should work fine with NS-3.3 User. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Message-ID: <CyroGA.DE0@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <398ja6$4e1@acmex.gatech.edu> <39depm$g6l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:40:57 GMT Robert Lutwak (robert@amo.mit.edu) wrote: : I called Insignia and learned that SoftPC 4.0 still DOES NOT support : AutoCAD release 12, which is a 32-bit protected-mode DOS application. : They do, however, claim to support "enhanced mode" windows applications. They claim only 386 Enhanced Mode Windows. ------- --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frigtening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you." . The ROMbox plugs into the DSP. You create a pseudo-hard-disk for the Mac filesystem. Then, you reboot using the daydream kernel, and the machine boots into Mac System 7. You can print to NeXT Laser printers (we did!), and use AppleTalk networks(as I recall). It supports colour if you have a Colour NeXTstation. We found that virtually all apps we tried worked under the system. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frigtening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: OCR software for cube? Message-ID: <Cyroyr.EC9@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <ANDERSON.94Nov2154400@sapir.ling.yale.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:52:03 GMT Stephen Anderson (anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu) wrote: : It turns out suddenly that I need to scan a great deal of text into my : cube for editing purposes, and I haven't noticed any discussion : recently of what software there is for this purpose. What is there, : and what works well? And while I'm at it, recommendations for scanners : and scanner software would be useful too. There's OCRServant and MetroScan from HSD. They sell their stuff through Metrosoft (info@metrosoft.com). MetroScan supports UMAX scanners (maybe others?). There's also eXTRASCAN and eXTRAREAD from GS Corp (info@goldleaf.com). eXTRASCAN can use Canon CJ10 and CLC300/500 series scanners, or Epson ES800-C series scanners. I've used all these apps before. All are good. I prefer MetroScan's interface for the scanner. eXTRAREAD does a better job of OCR by preserving more formatting (fonts, bolding, etc...) and outputs RTF rather than ASCII. --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Free X Client for Intel? What is mouseX? Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:06:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <39elpv$s4l@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <39ee4t$fa9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <39ee4t$fa9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: >In article <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net writes: > >> I'd suuuuure like to be able to run X apps from our SUN boxes, but I've >> been unable to find any X Client software for Intel on the archives... > >There is no free X client software for NextStep Intel. Mouse X only runs >on Motorolla. I would certainly be happy if somebody would compile it for >Intel. Somewhat of a nitpicking, but what you are looking for is X *Server* software not X Client. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: jburne@panix.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Daydream -- invasion of the body snatchers Date: 4 Nov 1994 20:22:01 -0500 Organization: Public Access Internet & UNIX Message-ID: <39emnp$mj9@panix.com> References: <393mkr$kag@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <Cyro8E.Cyt@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Cyro8E.Cyt@cunews.carleton.ca>, > >The ROMbox plugs into the DSP. You create a pseudo-hard-disk for the Mac >filesystem. Then, you reboot using the daydream kernel, and the machine >boots into Mac System 7. You can print to NeXT Laser printers (we did!), >and use AppleTalk networks(as I recall). It supports colour if you have a >Colour NeXTstation. > Minor correction...It will connect to a mac network only through ethertalk localtalk via serial doesn't work. I agree it's very cool though a waste of a good NeXT...
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Free X Client for Intel? What is mouseX? Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:36:07 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <39eni7$rfg@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> In article <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net writes: > >The magic question is: WHAT IS mouseX? Is it an X Client I can compile >for NS Intel? Is anybody out there using it successfully? MouseX was the first X package for NEXTSTEP, ported over from MIT code by Mike Parker (der Mouse) at McGill in one week, with no help or specs from NeXT (in fact, they didn't want *any* X stuff on NEXTSTEP at that time). It's really quite impressive... I'm not sure if anyone ever ported it over to x86... if not, Mouse would do it, but only if you stole his NeXTstation and replaced it with a Pentium. :-). - darcy -- In Aikido, we don't really "throw" you. We just prevent you from maintaining your upright position.
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC Clieint for NSFIP?? Date: 5 Nov 1994 02:21:36 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39eq7g$b0u@pdx1.i.net> Where can I locate a irc client for NS_FIP that will compile with out any headaches.. Or better yet anyone have a compiled one that they could NeXTMail to me? Thanks -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications steve@eps.com >> http://www.eps.com NeXTMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Where is /usr/lib/arch_tool? Message-ID: <espritCyrxwu.5G7@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 03:05:17 GMT I am trying to install MiscKit 1.2.6 on my NS 3.1 system and the Makefile refers to a utility '/usr/lib/arch_tool', which does not appear on my system or my installation CD. What is it and where can I get it? -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 / Mach3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 05 Nov 1994 06:37:04 GMT Organization: Portland State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MARCUS.94Nov4223704@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> Will there be external pagers in 3.3?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Re: Tailor and TeX Message-ID: <1994Nov4.201230.4206@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger References: <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:12:30 GMT In article <398onu$7ko@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > Can anyone comment on whether and why it might be advantageous to > purchase Tailor if you are using TeX (or LaTeX)? Example: You have to meet your publisher's format specification but you don't want to spend hours getting TeX hacked to get there. Pick a similar style, make sure to use the [times] option, do your document in TeX. Postprocess the PS in Tailor (rearrange columns, pictures, remove stuff, ...) --- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome ***
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best X Window Package ?? Date: 4 Nov 1994 21:54:35 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <39f6mr$383@runner.uucp> Summary: What is best X Window Package for NeXT? Keywords: Window I need to get an X Window system to run on my NeXT Station Color. What is the best package? I have heard of three: co-Xist, Cub'X-Window, and eXodus. What package is fastest, has most features? Thanks. -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scott vs the "term" program. Date: 5 Nov 94 01:54:13 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu> I've been making an attempt to get the term program up and running on NS3.2. [term being a program to do slip-like things without slip.] Quite some time ago, I managed to get it up under NS2.1, but had some problems with the dial-up I was using and decided to forego it. I figured it was time to try again ... Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working for me. In fact, it so "not works" that when I run ./test -d64, it never does anything. trsh and ilk simply don't work. When I push it to -d500, the _local_ side has some activity, but it never goes to the _remote_ end! When I try it over a modem connection, same thing happens. I'm fairly certain I've got the terms connected, as it worked fine with linecheck, and the fact that ./test didn't work makes it hard to verify a mistake. This is version 1.0.6. Thanks, -- scott hess <scott@gac.edu><I write the code that makes the whole world sing> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: suhono@tone.cs.uec.ac.jp (Suhono Harso Supangkat) Subject: Looking MPEG for Nextstep Message-ID: <SUHONO.94Nov3110352@tone.cs.uec.ac.jp> Sender: usenet@uecgw.cs.uec.ac.jp Organization: The University of Electro-Communications, Tokyo, Japan. Distribution: comp Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:03:52 GMT Hi, NeXT-netter, We are looking MPEG simulation software for NeXTSTEP, Does anybody know the ftp location ? Thanks, -- Suhono Harso Supangkat suhono@shinano.cs.uec.ac.jp | NextMail: suhono@hotaka.cs.uec.ac.jp The University of Electro-Communications Tokyo
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scott vs the "term" program. Date: 5 Nov 94 03:30:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Nov5033047@nic.gac.edu> References: <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu> In-reply-to: scott@nic.gac.edu's message of 5 Nov 94 01:54:13 In article <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu>, scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: >This is version 1.0.6. There's my problem. When reading through the docs again, I saw a reference to "slap" (serial line access protocol), which term was to become. archie turned up a couple references, and the one I followed turned out to be an empty directory ... with term114 right next door. _That_ version seems to be working just fine, so I guess that's the end of that! [BTW, anyone know if "slap" is or isn't out there?], -- scott hess <scott@gac.edu><I write the code that makes the whole world sing> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Altsys acquired by Macromedia, Inc. Future of Virtuoso? Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:00:35 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <39eau3$cum@cobber.cord.edu> Now that Altsys has been acquired by Macromedia, what will happen with Virtuoso/Freehand. Will NeXTStep support still continue? Any chance that some Macromedia software be ported to NeXTStep? This would be great for people in DPT and computer graphics on the NeXT platform. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wormhole.cord.edu (NeXTmail, and soon MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Help! Is Date.app Available as double or triple Fat?? In-Reply-To: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com's message of 3 Nov 1994 01:32:53 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Nov5084435@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <3993dl$5vp@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <399ek5$8pf@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 16:44:35 GMT >>>>> On 3 Nov 1994 01:32:53 GMT, andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) said: > First: a side question. Has anyone else had their Date schedules > change? Everything in mine recently dropped back a day, and I can't > figure out why (or how to easily fix it). I've noticed Date.app get messed up when we switch from daylight time to standard time and vica versa. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available? Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:49:53 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <39gnl1$3iu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <CyroGA.DE0@cunews.carleton.ca> Can someone with SoftPC 4.0 report on its capabilities with Windows apps? Pre-4.0 versions just didn't cut it for many Windows apps. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Graphical HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? References: <CyJ27n.38s@blackmaus.com> <1994Nov1.184348.1566@nugget.rmnug.org> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 08:56:59 GMT Message-ID: <1994Nov5.085659.10544@proximus.north.de> In article <1994Nov1.184348.1566@nugget.rmnug.org>, Leif Smith <leif@pattern.rmnug.org> wrote: > >> The only graphical HTML editor I know of is called HTML-Editor.app. There should also be http://www.etext.caltech.edu/eTextEngine/ ftp://etext.caltech.edu/pub/eTextEngine/eText5.App.tar.gz ftp://etext.caltech.edu/pub/eTextEngine/eText5.Source.tar.gz REQUIRES 3.2, HP also requires OmniImageFilter Gerhard.
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 5 Nov 1994 22:17:48 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, For $190 (who knows, maybe I get an educational discount?), what is the purpose of buying 3.3? Presumably, if the old developer still works, none of my software will be redundant with a 3.3-dependent upgrade. My working hypothesis is that the only folks buying 3.3 are first-time NS users, and died-in-the-wool NeXT types who always have the most recent gadget. Am I missing something obvious here? Lones -- Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 v-mail: (617) 253-0914 e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff) lasmith@athena.mit.edu (if all else fails)
From: gayed@eye3.psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Running NEXSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755C Date: 5 Nov 1994 23:20:29 GMT Organization: UCLA Life Sciences Computing Message-ID: <39h3vt$j4g@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience running NEXTSTEP on a laptop. I'm particularly interested in the IBM ThinkPad 755C. Does the Intel port of NEXTSTEP work on this machine? Will I run into any hardware problems? If anyone has run it on a machine like this, how fast is it compared to Motorala hardware running NEXTSTEP 3.2? I am currently using Motorala hardware with a lot of neat programs I would like to keep - what is the experience of users out there compiling Motorala specific software running in NeXT or NEXTSTEP on the new NEXSTEP for Intel os? If you have the source code for the programs you want to port, is it relatively painless, or are there a lot of bug fixes? Are there questions I should be asking or aware of that I have not voiced here (there must be tons, I know). ANY information on this dreamy scheme of mine will be helpful. Thanks in advance for posts and replies via email. My email address is gayed@psych.ucla.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@V,C!<='@Q,C0P7'1X,3@V,%QT M>#(T.#!<='@S,3`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0S-#!<='@T.3@P7'1X-38P,%QT>#8R M,C!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!)('=A<R!W;VYD97)I M;F<@:68@86YY;VYE(&]U="!T:&5R92!H87,@:&%D(&%N>2!E>'!E<FEE;F-E M(')U;FYI;F<@3D585%-415`@;VX@82!L87!T;W`N($DG;2!P87)T:6-U;&%R M;'D@:6YT97)E<W1E9"!I;B!T:&4@24)-(%1H:6YK4&%D(#<U-4,N($1O97,@ M=&AE($EN=&5L('!O<G0@;V8@3D585%-415`@=V]R:R!O;B!T:&ES(&UA8VAI M;F4_(%=I;&P@22!R=6X@:6YT;R!A;GD@:&%R9'=A<F4@<')O8FQE;7,_($EF M(&%N>6]N92!H87,@<G5N(&ET(&]N(&$@;6%C:&EN92!L:6ME('1H:7,L(&AO M=R!F87-T(&ES(&ET(&-O;7!A<F5D('1O($UO=&]R86QA(&AA<F1W87)E(')U M;FYI;F<@3D585%-415`@,RXR/R!)(&%M(&-U<G)E;G1L>2!U<VEN9R!-;W1O M<F%L82!H87)D=V%R92!W:71H(&$@;&]T(&]F(&YE870@<')O9W)A;7,@22!W M;W5L9"!L:6ME('1O(&ME97`@+2!W:&%T(&ES('1H92!E>'!E<FEE;F-E(&]F M('5S97)S(&]U="!T:&5R92!C;VUP:6QI;F<@36]T;W)A;&$@<W!E8VEF:6,@ M<V]F='=A<F4@<G5N;FEN9R!I;B!.95A4(&]R($Y%6%135$50(&]N('1H92!N M97<@3D584U1%4"!F;W(@26YT96P@;W,_($EF('EO=2!H879E('1H92!S;W5R M8V4@8V]D92!F;W(@=&AE('!R;V=R86US('EO=2!W86YT('1O('!O<G0L(&ES M(&ET(')E;&%T:79E;'D@<&%I;FQE<W,L(&]R(&%R92!T:&5R92!A(&QO="!O M9B!B=6<@9FEX97,_($%R92!T:&5R92!Q=65S=&EO;G,@22!S:&]U;&0@8F4@ M87-K:6YG(&]R(&%W87)E(&]F('1H870@22!H879E(&YO="!V;VEC960@:&5R M92`H=&AE<F4@;75S="!B92!T;VYS+"!)(&MN;W<I+B!!3ED@:6YF;W)M871I M;VX@;VX@=&AI<R!D<F5A;7D@<V-H96UE(&]F(&UI;F4@=VEL;"!B92!H96QP M9G5L+B!4:&%N:W,@:6X@861V86YC92`@9F]R('!O<W1S(&%N9"!R97!L:65S M('9I82!E;6%I;"Y<"EP*37D@96UA:6P@861D<F5S<R!I<R!G87EE9$!P<WEC -:"YU8VQA+F5D=0I]"EP* `
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 6 Nov 1994 00:06:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <39h6md$7vg@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: > For $190 (who knows, maybe I get an educational discount?), what is > the purpose of buying 3.3? According to some early NeXT flyers, 3.3 is aimed at people who need more reliability (e.g., people running applications where the down time from a system crash can potentially run thousands to millions of dollars), more network performance (e.g., a very heavily used server), or need/want multicast capability (e.g., to catch all those IETF video broadcasts over the Internet). The first sentence in the second paragraph in the flyer I picker up says, "NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 incorporates enhancements based on feedback from customers with large-scale NEXTSTEP environments." ^^^^^^^^^^^ I think NeXT is pushing NEXTSTEP 3.3 as an "industrial strength" operating system. I personally do not need MIME mail (and if I did, there are 3rd party apps available) or IETF and ARPA video feeds (multicast). Furthermore, my single user NEXTSTEP machine does not need that extra bit of reliability or network speed. So... I think I will sit on the fence for a while before upgrading. Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: Niels Doornhein <pop0003@simplex.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP/MOSAIC or Netscape for Intel3.2 version Date: 6 Nov 1994 00:37:42 GMT Organization: Simplex networking Amsterdam Message-ID: <39h8h9$hio@News.Simplex.NL> I'm looking for SLIP software the next-step intel version 3.2 I've tried one package but I can't get it running. Is there also MOSAIC or NETSCAPE for the NEXT available?? Greets, Niels
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend 1.2 Hidden feature? Date: 06 Nov 1994 01:07:35 GMT Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Nov6010735@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> References: <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.EDU> In-reply-to: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 4 Nov 1994 17:28:50 -0600 >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> writes: Tim> Maybe it's just some weird thing, but I noticed for the first time Tim> today that when I change levels in Fiend (v 1.2) it hides all of the Tim> apps that are running out of that level. Tim> Is this new or have I been just _really_ unobservant? (a distinct possibility) in the preferences there is a "follow levels" flag that you can set. the behaviour you describe means it's "on". --jmf -- +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.71.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.81.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | email: J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | | | | | or check out my WWW page http://strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 6 Nov 1994 04:51:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <39hnbv$3ld@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: > For $190 (who knows, maybe I get an educational discount?), what is > the purpose of buying 3.3? Presumably, if the old developer still works, > none of my software will be redundant with a 3.3-dependent upgrade. > > My working hypothesis is that the only folks buying 3.3 are first-time NS > users, and died-in-the-wool NeXT types who always have the most > recent gadget. > > Am I missing something obvious here? > Bug fixes. I have been told that several DBKit crasher bugs have been fixed in 3.3, but I haven't been able to test whether this is true. This would apply to DBKit apps that people might be using. There are probably other bug fixes that might fix certain problems that some users are experiencing. The bug fixes would be in the 3.3 shared libraries that all apps use at run-time, so recompilation wouldn't be necessary to experience these fixes. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.2 Hidden feature? Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cyu32z.HBx@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 06:52:11 GMT References: <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.edu> Organization: NDSU ACM In article <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.edu>, Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote: >Maybe it's just some weird thing, but I noticed for the first time >today that when I change levels in Fiend (v 1.2) it hides all of the >apps that are running out of that level. Mine doesn't do that. (v1.2!) -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> "We haven't the money, so we've got to think." -Lord Rutherford \v/
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Date: 5 Nov 1994 08:29:14 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <39gbsq$4dk@runner.uucp> References: <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> <39djvt$nv6@pong.ping.at> Hannes Tiefenbrunner (hannes@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at) wrote: : In article <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com : writes: : # Magnan Francois writes : # # : # # I am using Transys pni 1.11 and when I want to hang up I do : # # : # # /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -d -c down pni0 : # # : # # When I am logged in as root it works well but no other user can do it. : # # I get a message like: "Can't find pnid deamon, Is it running?" : # # What am I doing wrong? : # # If I start pni (not as root) with the following: /etc/pni/pnirun pni0 & Then I get the same error as Magan, if I use /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0 from the SAME terminal window that I started pni from. However, pnistat -c down pni0 works fine (again not as root) if I run it from a different terminal window. -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Nov6112817@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Nov6112817@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Date: 06 Nov 1994 11:49:07 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov6114907@steffi.dircon.co.uk> -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scott vs the "term" program. Date: 6 Nov 1994 14:46:25 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <39iq81$516@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu> <SCOTT.94Nov5033047@nic.gac.edu> Scott Hess (scott@nic.gac.edu) wrote: : In article <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu>, : scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: : >This is version 1.0.6. : There's my problem. When reading through the docs again, I saw a : reference to "slap" (serial line access protocol), which term was to : become. archie turned up a couple references, and the one I followed : turned out to be an empty directory ... with term114 right next door. : _That_ version seems to be working just fine, so I guess that's the : end of that! : [BTW, anyone know if "slap" is or isn't out there?], Nevere heard of 'slap'. I just now that the first author of term , C? O'Reilly has given the development in the hands of Bill C. Reimers. In the meantime, there's a version 2 of term(last release 2.2.5 dated Oct 28), and it works just fine with NEXTSTEP (without it, these lines hadn't been possible ;-). Just try physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term. Oh, and don't mind the 'gethostbyname' error when starting 'term' on a standalone machine. The author keeps telling me it's just fine so. ;-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for NS2.1 user Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 10:46:20 -0500 Organization: Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EijDdAq00aw=0XQEoh@andrew.cmu.edu> I'm having a problem with my NS2.1, that is, I think I'm missing some files. I would like to find out from a 2.1 user whether he has those files available. This is the deal. I need to following two files in order to compile X11R5 on my machine: dev/ev_types.h and drivers/event_status_driver.h I don't have them, in fact I don't even have the directories dev and drivers in my include tree. My assumption is that someone updated my machine earlier to 2.1, without updating the include tree. But this is only an assumption, so I'ld like to find out from other users whether this is the case or not. Maybe I could find a good soul who will allow me to copy their include files. Thanks, -Rudi \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ Rudi Stouffs Department of Architecture Carnegie Mellon University [rstouffs+@cmu.edu] _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
From: ts110@owl.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.3 Black - what's in it for me? Date: 6 Nov 1994 16:10:04 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Message-ID: <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hello, I am a user of NextStep 3.0 (full developer version) on a _standalone_ NeXTStation TurboColor which I primarily use to run TeX, Mathematica and C. I have just recently bought a new 1.2G disk, so I am considering upgrading my NeXTStep: if I am ever going to do it, now would probably be a good time. On the one hand it would be nice to have NeXTStep 3.1/3.2/3.3 so I could run Mathematica 2.1 (I currently run 2.0) and the latest version of SafetyNet, both of which I already have, on the other hand I am generally very happy with 3.0. The big question is: if I upgrade, what is in it for me? All NeXT advertising seems to emphasize compatibility with various new platforms and lots of new network features, neither of which interests me in any way. What I am after is new functionality / new bundled applications / new software libraries or even just major bug fixes, speed enhancements or improved user interface for a standalone Motorola-based NeXT. As far as new functionality is concerned, all past experience and all the information I have available seems to suggest that upgrading would actually lose features: NeXT seems to quietly debundle applications every time they upgrade NeXTStep, and in fact I have heard that since 3.1 TeX, PhoneKit and many other things are no longer included. Is this true? Also, what new applications / application software libraries etc. are included in 3.3? How much disk space does 3.3 take, in comparison to 3.0? Is it significantly faster? 3.0 has the following major bug: whenever I run, e.g. Mathematica and the swapfile grows to take up all my disk, there seems to be no way to clear the swapfile without rebooting. Has this been fixed in 3.3? Also in 3.0, if one moves icons around the bookshelf in Digital Librarian, they seem to disappear until Digital Librarian is restarted. Has this been fixed? Many thanks for any of your answers.
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP Date: 4 Nov 1994 23:08:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <39eeu8$704@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <jamesg-0411941030500001@dialup-47.slip.dialup> In article <jamesg-0411941030500001@dialup-47.slip.dialup> jamesg@insane.apana.org.au (James Gambit) writes: > Can i ask a stupid question here as i'm trying to get hold of NeXTStep for > a Mac or Intel based machine is this actually possible at the moment or am > i in dreamland thanks for any reply. call 1-800-try-next. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Free X Client for Intel? What is mouseX? Date: 6 Nov 1994 13:19:34 -0700 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <39jdom$8qk@xmission.xmission.com> References: <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> <39eni7$rfg@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: : In article <Cyr4Cu.MAF@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net writes: : > : >The magic question is: WHAT IS mouseX? Is it an X Client I can compile : >for NS Intel? Is anybody out there using it successfully? : MouseX was the first X package for NEXTSTEP, ported over from MIT code : by Mike Parker (der Mouse) at McGill in one week, with no help or specs : from NeXT (in fact, they didn't want *any* X stuff on NEXTSTEP at that : time). It's really quite impressive... : I'm not sure if anyone ever ported it over to x86... if not, Mouse : would do it, but only if you stole his NeXTstation and replaced : it with a Pentium. :-). : - darcy At one time, I had rounded up another of the authors of MouseX, who lived somewhere in California, and offered to loan him an Epson Progression NX with which to do the port. He declined, citing lack of time. ....................................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scott vs the "term" program. Date: 6 Nov 1994 20:21:07 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <39jdrj$2l3@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu> <SCOTT.94Nov5033047@nic.gac.edu> Scott Hess (scott@nic.gac.edu) wrote: : In article <SCOTT.94Nov5015413@nic.gac.edu>, : scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: : >This is version 1.0.6. : There's my problem. When reading through the docs again, I saw a : reference to "slap" (serial line access protocol), which term was to : become. archie turned up a couple references, and the one I followed : turned out to be an empty directory ... with term114 right next door. : [BTW, anyone know if "slap" is or isn't out there?], I have term2.1.4 up and running smoothly with no trouble... I would recommend getting a newer verion, it is MUCH more reliable, pliable, configurable now. -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Unique Opportunity in NeXTSTEP Education sales Message-ID: <Cyv6CE.JsK@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 21:00:14 GMT NEXTSTEP based software suppliers, this is a call for information on your education discount programs. Please direct replies to sales@computerActive.on.ca or see contact info below. BACKGROUND The Province of Ontario, Canada has recognized that different school boards have widely varying tax bases with which to fund education. This results in some school boards being rich in computer labs whereas the poorer boards have little or none. The Province of Ontario has elected to create a subsidy program for computer purchases. In our area, the boards get a 60% rebate for every dollar spent on computers. There is a catch. The boards must only buy computers on an approved list to be eligible for the subsidy. To date there are only four approved vendors. We have partnered with one of those vendors and have exclusive distribution rights for our area. We have a 60% price advantage over all non approved hardware vendors! While we must still compete with the other three approved suppliers, we believe we can win because they are selling hardware only, whereas we are a full service system integrator, who understands the needs of our education market. (We have hired a retired principal to head our efforts). While the subsidy program is focussed on hardware and we will win business based on hardware pricing alone, we believe it is in our vested interest to encourage the use of NeXTSTEP at the high school level. (account control, unique positioning, etc., etc....). While we don't expect to generate much revenue from the software sales, we will generate revenue from hardware margins, installation and network support services and in training the trainers. Populating the local school boards with NEXTSTEP based systems and application software would also help in creating market awareness to the parents. Note that there is a large federal government populace in our area. (The Feds spend $2 billion a year in our city) Now comes the reason for all this. We know many of the NEXT community's software vendors have education discount programs. This is a call for information on your education programs. INFORMATION REQUEST While we probably already know your products, we would like to know: 1) Your education prices. 2) What is and is not included in this price (manuals, etc.) 3) Your restrictions as to who is illegible. We want to police this very carefully so none of us lose revenue through the education program. We would like to include universities and colleges and K to 12. Staff and full time students of the university and college would be eligible but only the schools and staff would be eligible for K to 12. We were a NEXT education reseller when they had the hardware and have been a "University bookstore" w.r.t. reselling the NEXT Education package for the three universities in our area. 4) Will you allow us resell your program (probably at little no markup)? Or would you prefer each school to order separately? We think we can build a compelling education bundle of NEXTSTEP and a few well chosen apps to start them off. FINAL COMMENT Yes, we know NEXT isn't interested in education, but we have built a healthy business in responding to the opportunities of our own markets rather than listening to the worldwide vision of NEXT. It is only because of this unique subsidy program that there is life in education sales in our area. (Eastern Ontario) Contact info: computerActive, Inc. 15 Capella Court, Unit 128 Ottawa, ON, Canada K2E 7X1 Voice: (613)225-4824 FAX: (613)225-1670 EMail: sales@computerActive.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: NS3.3 Black - what's in it for me? Organization: P & L Systems References: <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 21:55:25 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov6.215525.4285@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ts110@owl.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: > am considering upgrading my NeXTStep: if I am ever going to do it, now > would probably be a good time. On the one hand it would be nice to > have NeXTStep 3.1/3.2/3.3 so I could run Mathematica 2.1 (I currently > run 2.0) and the latest version of SafetyNet, both of which I already > have, on the other hand I am generally very happy with 3.0. Don't do it now. Wait a few weeks for 3.3. 3.1, and then 3.2, seem to me to be both faster and more reliable than 3.1. The big difference is proper support for MAB applications, which is why you can't run the new versions of SafetyNet, etc. > As far as new functionality is concerned, all past experience and all > the information I have available seems to suggest that upgrading would > actually lose features: NeXT seems to quietly debundle applications > every time they upgrade NeXTStep, and in fact I have heard that since > 3.1 TeX, PhoneKit and many other things are no longer included. Is > this true? Also, what new applications / application software > libraries etc. are included in 3.3? PhoneKit and AppleTalk have dropped out. TeX is still there; you now also get a demo copy of SoftPC. One new app is the (rather useful) FileMerge demo. 3.3 includes the FoundationKit libraries, enhanced (MIME compatible) mail, and improved NetInfo apps. > 3.0 has the following major bug: whenever I run, e.g. Mathematica and > the swapfile grows to take up all my disk, there seems to be no way to > clear the swapfile without rebooting. Has this been fixed in 3.3? Swapfile handling is still the same. You don't say how much RAM you have; this could provoke the situation, as Mathematica is rather greedy. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Mouse Port Preference File? Message-ID: <CyvBKK.F6C@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 22:53:03 GMT What file, man page, or FAQ specifies the mouse com: port? I would like to shift from com1: to com2:, but am unable to do this using the Preference panel. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler) Subject: Need Installation instructions Message-ID: <bbutlerCyvC87.Mtu@netcom.com> Summary: Need installation instructions for NSFIP Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 23:07:18 GMT Help, I just bought a used copy of NextStep for Intel (3.2) and the seller didn't include the installation instructions. I tried to do it blind but I can't get it to work. It hangs up as some point during the installation. (it's not the keyboard bug described on NextAnswers.) If someone in the Boston area would be willing to loan me their installation guide I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. -- ------- Bryan Butler bbutler@netcom.com
From: claspac@jri.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3rd Party Mime mail converters or Apps Date: 7 Nov 1994 00:04:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <39jqtn$e1e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I am wondering if there are any 3rd party or public domain schemes for detecting incoming Mime style mail messages and converting them into a nicer NeXTSTEP compatible format. I get a slew of messages with these "=20" trailing characters on the lines and other unintelligible gibberish lately. A posted and e-mailed answer would help me and the others curious about this. Thanks much. -- Will Russell & Frank Jas c/o Computer Science University of California Santa Cruz, CA 95064 will@jri.ucsc.edu 408,459,2060
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.3 Black - what's in it for me? Date: 7 Nov 1994 04:33:47 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39kanb$ksl@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ts110@owl.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: > The big question is: if I upgrade, what is in it for me? All NeXT Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.1, 3.2 or 3.3 will give you the ability to run all the latest software. Other than that, there isn't much difference for the individual, non corporate user. And yes, NeXT does seem to unbundle something with every new upgrade, so keep your old NextStep CD. I am personally not planning on upgrading from 3.2 to 3.3. You might just want to buy NextStep 3.1 or 3.2 used, off the net. The fact that the "improvements" in NextStep 3.3 are targeted at the very large business user are worrysome. NeXT already seems to ignore its individual users. The prices for software, NextStep and third party, are very high. When I graduate and cease being a student, I don't see how I'll be able to afford to continue using NextStep. Because of this, I may have to abandon the platform for a lesser operating system. I hope that NeXT and third party NextStep developers begin to sell their products to individuals at noncorporate prices before I have to go back to MacOS. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: troesch@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Ted Roesch) Subject: WAIS for the next? Message-ID: <1994Nov4.004944.185@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Distribution: NA Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 00:49:44 GMT I am looking for a WAIS server that is capable of boolean and truncated searching. Is there any such thing out there? I would prefer a precompiled binary becouse not much seems to compile properly for me. I found freeWAIS-NeXT-3.0.patch. Does this do the trick? If so what do I do with it? Thanks, Ted <troesch@malahat.library.uvic.ca>
From: mudog@aol.com (MuDog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom .WAD Editors? Date: 7 Nov 1994 00:53:01 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <39kfbt$9da@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Does anybody know if there are any Doom .WAD editors for NEXTSTEP? I'd like to try designing my own level, but I don't have a DOS box handy - all I've got is my trusty cube. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Josh Neal mudog@aol.com
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is /usr/lib/arch_tool? Date: 6 Nov 1994 09:24:23 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <39i7c7$bom@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <espritCyrxwu.5G7@netcom.com> Alan F. Perry writes ) ) I am trying to install MiscKit 1.2.6 on my NS 3.1 system and the ) Makefile ) refers to a utility '/usr/lib/arch_tool', which does not appear on my ) system or my installation CD. What is it and where can I get it? It is a new utility in NEXTSTEP 3.2. Grab the MiscKit 1.2.8 which will attempt to install it's own simplified arch_tool for you if you have something less than 3.2... -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Music Notation Program - NoteAbility Date: 7 Nov 1994 09:10:46 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[4630] Distribution: world Message-ID: <39kqum$csm@elna.ethz.ch> Keywords: music Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. NoteAbility, the music notation program with outstanding features, is still alive. Anyone interessted can contact the developer Keith Hamel directly through email at hamel@unixg.ubc.ca. Version 1.0 should be avaliable at the beginning of 1995. A demo is avaliable on ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/sound/NoteAbility The message above was posted with the permission of Keith Hamel I do this posting because I use this program very often and because it has the best GUI I have ever seen for a music notation program on any platform. The other reasen is because I (and anybody else?) can't contact CIUSA any more. This doesn't mean necessarily (in the case of NoteAbility) that the program is dead but that the kind of distribution may change in the future. Marc Petitmermet Switzerland petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is the best strategy to obtain LaTeX2e on NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Nov 1994 13:31:08 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <39la6s$88t@due.uninett.no> Is latex2e included in NS3.3? Is it easy to upgrade to latex2e on NS3.2 I need fancier slides and 8-bit national character support, that's why I'm interested. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUBMISSION: MailWatchView - a BackSpace Module Date: 7 Nov 1994 13:40:16 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <39lao0$ivm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> MailWatchView - a BackSpaceModule Currently on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions/MailWatchView.tar.gz Eventually on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/screen/MailWatchView.tar.gz Following is an excerpt from the README file: Description: ----------- Names of users bounce around the screen like gas particles in a box. Generally, the names are dark gray however, when a user has mail waiting, the name changes white (on 2-bit systems) or randomly changes color (on color systems). The purpose of this module is to save users the trouble of logging in just to see if they have mail. The module has become especially useful since the release of SpaceSaver by Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU. This replacement for loginwindow.app's ScreenSaver.bundle allows the root user to specify a BackSpace module to run on top of the login window. The distribution includes source and an i386/m68k FAT binary. Respectfully submitted -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: Re: MUX Driver 1.4 Problems: Is There A Newer Version? Message-ID: <CywG6v.K4G@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada References: <39e73l$q79@Mercury.mcs.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 13:30:30 GMT In article <39e73l$q79@Mercury.mcs.com> wlod@MCS.COM (Steve Wlodkowski) writes: > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net wrote: > : The version I have is 1.4, and there are some problems with NXFax and > : UUCP...is there a later version somewhere? > > Hey Damon, > What's your email address? Neither damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net > nor damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com seem to work. > -- > --Steve Wlodkowski > wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed) Sorry, your mail probably bounced the last couple days to damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net since I've had my UUCP machine down due to SCSI probs...that is the correct address, though... Thanks, Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb: not displaying inline images on black hardware Date: 07 Nov 1994 13:48:17 GMT Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Distribution: world Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Nov7134817@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> Hi, I have OmniWeb 0.7.5 (the latest version a couple of days ago) running both on an Intel box and on an original NeXT cube. Both are running NS 3.2. I also have OmniImage, OmniImageFilter and ImageViewer; and as far as I can see I have set things up the same way in both machines. The preferences are set to fetch the inline images. Yet, in the black hardware, inline images are not displayed. In fact this is the case in two separate machines (both original NeXT cubes). I have also noticed another difference; although this may be related to the above. In the black hardware the same inline image (a button, say) is fetched as many times as it appears in the page; whereas in the Intel box it is fetched only once. Any suggestions??? Thanks in advance, Jose -- +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.71.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.81.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | email: J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | | | | | or check out my WWW page http://strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: newsgrazer Date: 7 Nov 1994 13:46:30 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Distribution: world Message-ID: <39lb3m$gqt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Keywords: crashes Is there some solution to the random crashing of newsgrazer in the middle of reading news? I've been using it for several years, but this problem only started happening about 6 months ago. Now it seems to be getting worse. Is it related to the version of NS we are running (i.e. 3.2)? Thanks for any info. dan -- Dan Johnston, Baylor College of Medicine, 1 Baylor Plaza, Houston, TX 77030 Internet: dan@mossy.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) (713) 798-5984 (Office phone), (FAX) (713)799-8544 or 798-3946
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: SUMMARY: mail & news confiuration under SLIP Date: 7 Nov 1994 14:59:53 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <39lfd9$lgb@sirio.cineca.it> This is a summary of the replies that I got regarding an article I posted some time ago about mail and news configuration under the TransSys-PNI SLIP package. MAIL The problem with mail is that a machine connected to the Internet by SLIP (say bndm13k1.nettuno.it) is not available 24 hrs. a day for connections with other mail transport agents (e.g. sendmail) from hosts in the Internet. For this reason Inernet providers usually set up a machine that will work as a mail hub. This mail hub (say modena.nettuno.it) stores incoming mail messages from other hosts as well as serves as a gateway for clients when a mail user agent (say Mail.app) needs to transfer a message to other hosts on the Internet. I do not know if this is a common situation for SLIP machines connected to the Internet via SLIP, but I presume so. The result of this is that the Internet address for incoming mail (say bndm13k1@modena.nettuno.it) is different from the usual FQDN arrigo@bndm13k1.nettuno.it. To retrieve mail from the mail hub modena.nettuno.it I use a POP (Post Office Protocol) client. There is a nice client for NS, called PopOver, available at the usual ftp sites. Its configuration is straightforward. To have outgoing mail working, some modifications have to be made at /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf. The first forces sendmail to queue requests made by Mail.app and other user agents: Odbackground becomes Odq In this way when you click the deliver button in Mail.app the message is put in a queue. Later, after the SLIP connection is brought up, you just need to invoke /usr/lib/sendmail -q and your mail will flow to the hub for delivery. Of course you need to put in sendmail.cf you mail hub name. My sendmail.cf has the lines # major relay host DRmodena.nettuno.it CRmodena.nettuno.it Having a separate address for incoming and outcoming mail poses a problem when someone is replying to a message coming from bndm13k1.nettuno.it. A quick hack is changing the From: and eventually Reply-To: header lines definitions in /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf to respectively H?F?From: bndm13k1@modena.nettuno.it HReply-To: bndm13k1@modena.nettuno.it This will only work on a single user machine. If anyone knows how to deal with this problem better, I would like to know it. My Internet provider told me that a possible solution to this problem would be to set up an MX record for my host (bndm13k1.nettuno.it) but there could problems if I did not poll enough frequently. Using a POP client, they say, I can be sure that no messages would ever be lost. NEWS I decided to set up INN. A version patched for NS is available at ftp::/uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/next/Usenet/INN-1.4.tar.gz. I strongly recommend that you read the FAQs on INN before installing it. I also recommend that you install slurp to grab news form an NNTP server. Slurp (by steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk) is a substitute for nntpget (a program of the INN distribution), and is compatible with INN. The standard slurp distribution (a search with archie will tell you a dozen sites carrying it) compiles with no problems on 3.2. I have not been able to send out news yet, but I'm working on it. Hope it helps, -Arrigo Benedetti -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail:benedett@deis05.cineca.it University of Bologna bndm13k1@bologna.nettuno.it (NeXTmail accepted) Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
From: emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: French & English grammer soft. for UNIX ? Date: 7 Nov 1994 14:00:41 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <39lbu9$msb@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Hi, Here's a short one, Is there an english or french grammer checker anywhere on the net? I am willing to try anything NeXT, on-line UNIX or X. We are currently using "ispell" which does a nice job, but I wouldn't mind having something a little bit more powerful and easy to install. Fell free to reply to the group or to me. thanks, -- Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca Music Faculty, Mcgill University Voice: (514) 398-4552
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Re: Batch Image Processing? Message-ID: <1994Nov6.223354.1937@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <38h1o7$fnh@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 22:33:54 GMT In article <38h1o7$fnh@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: > In article <Cy3prA.1o8@info.uucp> mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) > writes: > > Hi. I'm currently an Amiga user (A4000/030), and among other things, I > run > > a graphics-oriented BBS (the content, not the interface, is mostly jpgs > & > > gifs). As a result, I do a fair bit of batch image processing (batch gif > to > > jpg conversion, and creation of contact sheets are the two jobs I > perform > > the most often) with a program called Art Department Professional. > > > > My understanding is that ADPro lacks many of the features of PhotoShop, > > (never used PS) but that it excels at batch stuff like I'm doing, > because > > of its extensive ARexx interface. > > > > Could someone out there (preferably familiar with ADPro, but I guess > that's > > a lot to ask for) let me know if there exists a similar product (or at > least > > one that could accomplish the same job relatively cheaply) for NEXTSTEP? > I'm > > VERY interested in moving to NS (those P/90 machines just keep getting > > cheaper!), and this is basically the last hurdle to overcome... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > > Phil Martin. mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca > > GCS/S -d+ !p c++ u+ e+(*) m--- s-/++ n++ h-- f+ w+ t r- y?(**) > > "I'm going back to my house, but I'm not going now, > > It's too early to be leaving here somehow." > > > PixelMagician by Bacchus is capable of batch conversions and it supports > nearly every graphics file type. Let me know if you'd like more > information. > -- > PixelMagician is the choice for batch conversion. TIFFany goes well with PM (actually ImageAgent) due to the use of filters. TIFFany also allows for batch processing of any TIFFany action (filter) and has a pretty cool image database and contact sheet module. --- Kevin Solie Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc. Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newsreader for NS/PA-RISC? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 10:58:38 -0500 Organization: Hughes Applied Information Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <jjuran-0711941058380001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com> References: <39bcpe$l23@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <39boc9$sim@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In article <39boc9$sim@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) wrote: > Joshua Juran writes > > Is there *any* newsreader for NeXTStep/PA-RISC? > > I'd be happy with a simple recompile of NewsGrazer (NeXT? Are > > you reading this? Hello?). I tried NewsBase, but MMEdit.app > > wouldn't compile. (And the binaries distributed are only > > double-fat.) > > Ask and ye shall receive! I've received an "anonymous" donation of > HPPA-compiled MMEdit.app. Unfortunately, I don't have an HP machine, > so I can't test it myself. I'd be happy to NeXTmail it to anyone who'd > like to try it out... Well, the DNS problem went away, so I was able to try it, and it worked. It feels a little strange switching between NewsBase and MMEdit, but it works, and the context switch is quick and inconspicuous. Unfortunately, our NS/HP is an eval demo, and it too will go away, so my newfound solution does little for me. On the other hand, I switched to NewsWatcher on my Mac, with which I'm quite happy. (Another fine creation of John Norstad, best known for Disinfectant, also free.) Shifting the thread slightly, if I were to be managing a network of NS machines (hardware unclear as of yet) what newsreader (commercial considered) would you suggest? (Unsolicited suggestions also welcome.) Josh
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:56:19 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> I remember reading that NeXTTIME required 8-bit depth on Intel, but was not sure if that meant one needed a color NeXTstation to run it. The salespeople at TRY-NeXT had no clue. So what's the word? Does NeXTTIME support the mono slab? On a related note, does anyone know of any hardware (maybe SCSI-based) that enables slab owners to incorporate a live video feed on their desktop? Thanks for any info, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for e-mail address of Cub'x Systems Date: 7 Nov 1994 17:34:20 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <39loes$s60@sirio.cineca.it> I have been told that the X11R5 port for NS formerly sold by Cub'x is now distributed by a new software vendor. Does anyone have their e-mail address? Thanks in advance, -Arrigo -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail:benedett@deis05.cineca.it University of Bologna bndm13k1@bologna.nettuno.it (NeXTmail accepted) Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
From: root@delta.success.net (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb problems Date: 7 Nov 1994 18:19:55 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <39lr4b$pq8@uuneo.neosoft.com> I just installed OmniWeb-0.7.5.3.1 as root onto the top level directory on my Intel NeXTStep 3.2. When I activate the app, it comes up but then dies 2 seconds later. Can anyone give me some idea of what I did wrong? -John
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS/2, DOS, NEXTSTEP MultiBoot Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:47:12 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39m080$28s@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> This weekend, I installed OS/2, DOS, and NEXTSTEP onto my DECpc. OS/2 forced me to install it into the first partition, and so I had to re-partition my drive accordingly. After backing up, installing and re-installing, then restoring, things appear to be working. Except for one thing: the ms_dos partition no longer automounts. I assume this is due to the fact that it is in the second partition rather than the first. Is there any way to mount the ms_dos partition manually? - tim -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsgrazer Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:09:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Distribution: world Message-ID: <39ljfr$68g@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <39lb3m$gqt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> In article <39lb3m$gqt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>: > Is there some solution to the random crashing of newsgrazer in the middle of > reading news? I've been using it for several years, but this problem only > started happening about 6 months ago. Now it seems to be getting worse. I recently experienced the same problem. I deleted my .newsrc file, and that seemed to do the trick. In my particular situation, I guess the structure of the .newsrc file had become so complicated that NewsGrazer barfed on it. Give it a try (actually, move your .newsrc to a backup file; delete later). Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS3.3 Black - what's in it for me? Date: 7 Nov 1994 15:15:57 -0800 Message-ID: <39mcfd$f2p@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> References: <39iv4s$6ri@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> A feature list posted says Mach 3 has been included in 3.3. Really? What about external pagers? Does anyone know, what exactly, from Mach 3.0 is in 3.3?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Message-ID: <1994Nov7.173839.287@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 7 Nov 94 17:38:39 CST References: <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <39hnbv$3ld@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <39hnbv$3ld@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote: >In article <39h0ac$net@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lasmith@athena.mit.edu >(Lones A Smith) writes: >> For $190 (who knows, maybe I get an educational discount?), what is >> the purpose of buying 3.3? Presumably, if the old developer still works, >> none of my software will be redundant with a 3.3-dependent upgrade. >> > Bug fixes. I have been told that several DBKit crasher bugs have been What are the consequences of NOT upgrading? -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Date: 7 Nov 1994 20:26:37 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39m2ht$8n3@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: > > I remember reading that NeXTTIME required 8-bit depth on Intel, but > was not sure if that meant one needed a color NeXTstation to run it. > The salespeople at TRY-NeXT had no clue. > > So what's the word? Does NeXTTIME support the mono slab? It works on my 25Mhz mono NeXTstation - but it's slow. Small movies with relatively low frame rates are fine, but beyond that, you can pretty much forget it. The problem is all the overhead of dithering down to 2-bit. I assume that if we had some 2-bit (or 1-bit) movies, they would be quite fast. Unfortunately, I know of no way to convert the movies I have. I could still use the mono station for editing - splicing and stuff - if NeXTtime* supported it. Maybe at 2.0. Anyone got any 1 or 2-bit movies at decent sizes / framerates that I could try out? *officialy known as NEXTIME, but I don't like that. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.2 Hidden feature? Message-ID: <Cyxz7E.qD@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:18:49 GMT In article <9411042326.AA04052@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > Maybe it's just some weird thing, but I noticed for the first time > today that when I change levels in Fiend (v 1.2) it hides all of the > apps that are running out of that level. > > Is this new or have I been just _really_ unobservant? (a distinct possibility) This behaviour can be toggled on/off in the preferences panel: under 'Follow Levels' > I suppose some might call this a feature, and others a bug, depending > on their view.... It's not a bug, it's Fiend :-) -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP and Netinfo Date: 8 Nov 1994 14:33:25 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <39o27l$bog@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I have set up a dedicated connection from my standalone NeXTStation (running 3.2) to the campus network using Morningstar's PPP 1.4(beta) over a linedriver. PROBLEM: My machine can find anything on the internet except for itself and its printer. That is, I can't ping myself (even if I use my numerical IP address), I can recieve but not send mail, and if I try to print, netinfo goes to sleep. BACKGROUND: At first, I could not get names resolved even after I set up an appropriate /etc/resolv.config file. A local guru solved that problem by setting up my machine as a secondary name server. At the same time he used HostManager.app to set up entries for my machine and the gateway, included an alias for my machine -- "via_thegateway", made a few changes to my /etc/hostconfig file, and removed the value for the "serves" property from the machines/broadcast entry found using NetInfoManager. At that point, EVERYTHING worked. However my campus gateway machine has now been switched. I amended the entries for my machine and the gateway made with HostManager, and the connection is established, but the problem persists. My hostconfig entries remain: HOSTNAME=[myhostname] INETADDR= ROUTER=-NO- IPNETMASK= IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC- NETMASTER=-NO- YPDOMAIN=-NO- TIME=-NO- Any help here would be much appreciated as I have been stumped for six weeks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: BYTE article about NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cyx55w.Mo@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:29:56 GMT Hi, all. I was out of town when my article hit the streets, then came back to a serious news blockage (just got back on today), so I haven't been able to read or respond to comments about my article in BYTE. I have, however, hear some second-hand reports that a few people here felt the article wasn't "positive enough." I'm puzzled by those who see my article in BYTE as somehow being critical of or negative towards NeXT and NEXTSTEP/OpenStep. While operating within the journalistic contraints of writing such an article, I gave NEXTSTEP (and NeXT hardware) very high praise, made not a single criticism of NeXT itself, and took all my shots at Taligent and Microsoft (and their products). The five reasons cited for lack of NEXTSTEP users all reflect acknowledgements made publicly by high-level NeXT personnel, including various comments by Steve Jobs at NeXTWORLD Expo and elsewhere. Written in August, the article even discussed the need to get OpenStep on top of Microsoft technology, an issue of some current interest. My only regret is that the last line of the article has been interpreted as somehow writing off NEXTSTEP. Instead, it reflects my frustration that NEXTSTEP hasn't (yet) had success commensurate with its technical and design excellence, as well as my empathy for those at NeXT and elsewhere who have poured their lives in the company and its products. The e-mail response I've received so far has been positive, with the exception of one reader who claims my article is an "advertisement" and feels I am ignorant and horribly biased in favor of NeXT. I guess if I've managed to offend both sides, I've struck the proper balance. ;-) I've also heard some second-hand rumors that folks think that Pages has written off the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep market and is busy porting to other platforms. Wrong on both counts, though we of course do reserve the right to expand our markets. We've just shipped version 1.5 of Pages with significant new functionality, as well as enhancements to the user interface. Our object-based API for Pages, the Pages Remote Objects Kit (ProKit), is currently in beta at about 25 sites. And we've got some new and interesting NS/OS applications based on Pages technology coming in the next year. So keep your eyes peeled; we're not done yet. :-) ..bruce.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | No! I am not Bill Gates, nor would I want to be; Chief Technical Officer | I'd rather parse the fish than own the knife; Pages Software Inc | (Imagine! Having moby bux but chained bwebster@pages.com | to forty million lusers, what a life...) #import <disclaimer.h> | -- Jeff Duntemann --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3270 Emulation Date: 8 Nov 1994 17:24:15 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <39oc7v$lte@news.iastate.edu> Are there any IBM 3270 Terminal Emulation packages available for NEXTSTEP (either NeXT or Intel)? If there are, would someone be so kind as to provide me with the name and contact of the provider? Thank you! -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine, Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011 Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted) Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q:Phone#/email address for Abaton Date: 8 Nov 1994 18:13:22 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <39of42$84s@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> The title says it all. Our Abaton software for our scanner is having problems. If you have either their ph# or their email address please response asap! -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu : Call The Atomic Playground : :NeXTmail: shane@galadriel.ecaetc.ohio-state.edu : (614)297-7031 96/14.4/28.8 : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: yu@math.duke.edu (Yunliang Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: npsleep.c -- turn off idle NeXT printer automatically Date: 8 Nov 1994 19:09:29 GMT Organization: Dept of Math, Duke Univ, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <39oid9$nae@news.duke.edu> Here is a small C program that I wrote last weekend to turn off my NeXT printer automatically when the printer is not in use for a while. Hope this would be helpful to others too. -yu =================== npsleep.c ============================== /* npsleep: $Id: npsleep.c,v 1.10 1994/11/06 23:44:04 yu Exp yu $ This program turns off an idle NeXT printer after some given time, written by Yunliang Yu <yu@math.duke.edu>, 11/5/94 To use, copy the compiled program to /LocalApps/npsleep and append the following to the /etc/rc.local file: if test -f /LocalApps/npsleep; then /LocalApps/npsleep & fi Use at your own risk, if any. */ #include <time.h> #include <syslog.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #include <sys/file.h> #include <sys/ioctl.h> #include <mach/m68k/boolean.h> #include <dev/m68k/npio.h> #define IDLE 5*60 /* minimal idle time before turning off */ #define SLEEP 2*60 /* checking interval */ #define PORT "/dev/np0" /* printer port */ main() { struct stat buf; time_t t0=0,t1,t; /* assume np is on upon booting */ struct npop np; int d; openlog("npsleep", LOG_PID, LOG_DAEMON); /* set up syslog */ setlogmask(LOG_UPTO(LOG_ERR)); syslog(LOG_ERR, "started"); for(;;){ sleep(SLEEP); if ( stat(PORT, &buf) == -1 ){ syslog(LOG_ERR, "can't stat %s, exit", PORT); closelog(); exit(1); } t1=buf.st_mtime; /* last modifying time */ t=time(0); /* current time */ if (t1 != t0 && ( t>t1+IDLE || t1>t+IDLE ) ){ if((d=open(PORT,O_WRONLY|O_NDELAY,0)) > 0){ np.np_op=NPSETPOWER; np.np_power=0; ioctl(d,NPIOCPOP,&np); close(d); syslog(LOG_ERR, "printer off"); t0=t1; } /* if printer is not in use, do a "nppower off" */ /* else if printer is busy, try again after SLEEP */ } } } =================== npsleep.c ============================== -- Best regards, Yunliang Yu Dept of Math, Duke Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hendryj@mcs.com Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Message-ID: <1994Nov8.203722.17410@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <1994Nov7.173839.287@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:37:22 GMT J. Kelly Cunningham writes > What are the consequences of NOT upgrading? > Excessive junk mail, poor hygeine, the heartbreak of psoriasis, excommunication, the collapse of Western Civilization, Dan Quayle US President in '96, and eternal damnation. Not necessarily in that order. -- Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is entirely coincidental.
From: bisselt@bonham.gb.swissbank.com (Tim Bissell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Date: 08 Nov 1994 18:36:56 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <BISSELT.94Nov8183657@bonham.gb.swissbank.com> References: <394bjl$gi8@news.doit.wisc.edu> <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 4 Nov 1994 08:48:13 GMT <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >[...]Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care >about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. >Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 >version of User edition. Woooweee, who told you this? I think NS Develeoper 3.2 *will* run on NS 3.3 Tim -- tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PV Wave for NS? Date: 8 Nov 1994 22:33:44 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <39ouc8$5en@network.ucsd.edu> About 6 months ago there was an announcement that PV Wave would be available for NextStep around Q3 of this year, including a palette for IB. Cost ~$1,700.00. Is PV Wave available for NS yet? Thanks, jk
From: guptaa@alleg.edu ( Azaq of Clan Smoke Jaguar ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics Subject: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Date: 9 Nov 1994 02:11:05 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Hello, I am trying to find out how to transfer GIF/JPEG/TIFF (etc) files from a NeXT to Amiga (the IFF format). Disks formatted on the Amiga are not compatible with the NeXT. However, I believe that there are amiga utils availabale that let IBM DOS files transfer to amiga. So, DOS seems the right alternative as I can use DOS files on the NeXT. If someone can tell me what to do, or where to find such utils, I would appreciate it much. Please email me directly, for I do not frequent these groups often. Thank you. Ani. guptaa@alleg.edu
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BYTE article about NEXTSTEP Date: 8 Nov 1994 23:37:58 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <39p24m$hg3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <Cyx55w.Mo@pages.com> In article <Cyx55w.Mo@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) writes: > My only regret is that the last line of the article has been interpreted > as somehow writing off NEXTSTEP. Instead, it reflects my frustration that > NEXTSTEP hasn't (yet) had success commensurate with its technical and > design excellence, as well as my empathy for those at NeXT and elsewhere > who have poured their lives in the company and its products. I liked the article, up until, as you say, the last line. It wasn't, IMHO, the correct way to end the piece. It was negative in tone, while I believe a statement saying the same thing, in a positive tone, could have been substituted. But again, overall it was quite good, and since it is your opinion and your writing, you should ignore the rest of us. :) -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Date: 8 Nov 1994 23:49:59 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <39p2r7$63h@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> <39djvt$nv6@pong.ping.at> <39gbsq$4dk@runner.uucp> How can you not do the pnistat command from a different terminal window. After I do the pnirun command that terminal is locked up until I close the SLIP session. Once it is closed, I can use that terminal agin. P.S. I use /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0 and it works just fine. (although I have to do a su and a ifconfig down pni0 to use my printer again) Nick Fogelson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Re: newsgrazer Message-ID: <CyytJo.1AL@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland References: <39lb3m$gqt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:14:11 GMT In article <39lb3m$gqt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston) writes: > Is there some solution to the random crashing of newsgrazer in the middle of > reading news? I've been using it for several years, but this problem only > started happening about 6 months ago. Now it seems to be getting worse. Is it > related to the version of NS we are running (i.e. 3.2)? Thanks for any info. > > dan > > -- > Dan Johnston, Baylor College of Medicine, > 1 Baylor Plaza, Houston, TX 77030 > Internet: dan@mossy.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) > (713) 798-5984 (Office phone), (FAX) (713)799-8544 or 798-3946 At the moment I'm using NG Release 2.0 Version 72.2 and it crash if I choice the "general" newsgroup... I suppose there is an article with some unexpected contents, but I don't know which one. So I'm waiting that this article expire :-( -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 06:32:32 GMT AmigaDOS 2.1 (if not 2.04) included a version of CrossDOS. Activating (mounting) the CrossDOS devices will let your floppy drive access 720K MS-DOS format floppies -- No special tricks needed, they are just a different capacity drive to the Amiga (with CrossDOS)... -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer) Subject: Which spread-sheet? Suggestions please!!! Message-ID: <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> Sender: news@roche.com (USENET News System) Organization: Hoffmann-La Roche AG Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 08:23:33 GMT Hi, I'm looking for a good tool to create all kinds of charts. The program should provide an easy way to control every single element of the chart. Since I do all my calculations within SAS I don't need sophisticated calculation and macro capabilities. I know of Improv WhingZ and Graphity (from Xanthus). Improv is not relieable in charting since it does not always what it is supposed to. WhingZ was my choice before but it's complicated. Graphity is great but you can't copy-paste 3-D charts into Frame-Maker with which i create all my documents. Have you any good suggestions? What about mesa? Thank you very much in advance! -ivo
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: commandline faxing? Message-ID: <3027@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 9 Nov 94 08:14:12 GMT Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). Are there (free or commercial) programs around which allow one to send faxes from the commandline? I run "am" to receive faxes and NXFax (currently in demo mode) to send them on a mono slab with a ZyXEL. However, this way only the console user can send faxes. Thanks for any information, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: gkj@ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which spread-sheet? Suggestions please!!! Date: 9 Nov 1994 11:38:00 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Message-ID: <39qcao$2sc@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> References: <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> In article <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer) writes: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a good tool to create all kinds of charts. > The program should provide an easy way to control every single > element of the chart. Since I do all my calculations within SAS > I don't need sophisticated calculation and macro capabilities. > I know of Improv WhingZ and Graphity (from Xanthus). > Improv is not relieable in charting since it does not always what it > is supposed to. WhingZ was my choice before but it's complicated. > Graphity is great but you can't copy-paste 3-D charts into Frame-Maker > with which i create all my documents. > > Have you any good suggestions? What about mesa? > > Thank you very much in advance! > > -ivo Take a look at SciPlot. A good basic scientific plotting app that allows significant control of plot elements. It's on the archives and it's "shareware." I'm simply a happy user of this app. gary jacobs
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 2 Questions about 3.3 Date: 9 Nov 1994 14:22:10 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39qlui$391@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Hello, all! I have two quick questions about 3.3 functionality, neither of which seems to be addressed in the info available through NeXT's WWW server (bad sign). Anyway, here they are: *1 Does NS3.3 offer dynamically growing/shrinking swapfile, rather than the dynamically growing/more growing one in NS<3.3 ? *2 Does the filesystem in NS3.3 finally allow for partitions >2GB in size? Thanks for any info, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XSB-Prolog on NeXT Date: 9 Nov 1994 15:16:20 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <39qp44$jpq@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, we installed XSB-Prolog on NeXT and would like to integrate it into a Project-Builder-Application. In the XSB-manual they say, Chapter 11, that XSB just provides an C-interface for Sun/Sparc and Intel architectures with Linux. Has anybody got some information about an XSB-C/Objective-C for NeXTStep ...? That would be great. Thanks in advance (Information about other AI-tools for NeXT are also welcome.) -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS-3.3 upgrade for $79? NOT. Date: 9 Nov 1994 14:47:50 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Distribution: na Message-ID: <39qnem$2vv@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Folks, I recently made an error when posting a note in reply to the SoftPC upgrade thread. My error was that I wasn't clicked on the correct message when I pressed "followup" in NewsGrazer. The title came out as "Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2?..." instead of "Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available?". I immediately realized my mistake (as I let go of the "post" button) and posted a retraction. Apparently my retraction wasn't loud enough. A lot of people read my message and (quite understandably) assumed I was talking about the NS-3.3 upgrade, when I was really talking about the SoftPC 4.0 ugrade, which costs $79. As far as I know, the price for the NS-3.3 upgrade is $199. Please stop sending me requests for where you can buy it for $79! You can't! 8^) -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Best X Window Package ?? Message-ID: <Cz06w5.p2@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <39f6mr$383@runner.uucp> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 14:00:05 GMT In article <39f6mr$383@runner.uucp> richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) writes: > I need to get an X Window system to run on my NeXT Station Color. > What is the best package? I have heard of three: co-Xist, > Cub'X-Window, and eXodus. There's another one: MouseX. It's greatest advantage: it's free. You can find it on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart) Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Message-ID: <1994Nov9.154437.3938@mixcom.com> Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin) Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139 References: <39gbsq$4dk@runner.uucp> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:44:37 GMT The problem is that the process is owned by root so only root can kill it. pnistat may be reporting a wrong error. I do this with the latest version 1.12 all the time and never have any problems requiring that PNI be stopped from the same terminal that it was started. --- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321 alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCz0C7s.DKK@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:55:04 GMT Whoops, I neglected the other half of the problem: Conversion from TIFF to other formats. There may be some PD converters floating around. I'm presently awaiting the arrival of the ProConversionPack additions to ArtDepartmentPro, which includes TIFF loader. -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Looking for someone to cut a CD-ROM to backup files Message-ID: <CyyrBD.BG@pages.com> Keywords: CD-ROM, backup Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 19:26:01 GMT I have been combing through my dozen+ optical disks, collecting files I wish to save off of each. I now have some 500MB of such files, a result of six years of working on NeXT systems. Not trusting either OD media (several of which I've had to manually fsck) or my aging OD drive, I'd like to write all these files onto a CD-ROM compatible with the NeXT file system so that I can get to them without wondering each time I load an OD into the cube whether I'll actually be able to read it. :-) Does anyone here run a business that offers such a service or know of someone who does? I can deliver the files on tape, hard disk, or even OD. Please reply via e-mail; I'll let everyone know what I find out. ..bruce.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | Am a flamer, goateed, pallid, overweight, Chief Tech Officer | Willing to pull two shifts, then (hell) a third, Pages Software Inc | To save a session from a deadlocked state; bwebster@pages.com | At times, (to put it mildly) unrestrained-- (619)492-9050 x212 | Almost, at times, a nerd. -- Jeff Duntemann ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) Subject: Doom for Black? Message-ID: <Cz0Kop.3ux@ncifcrf.gov> Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:58:01 GMT Was Doom ever fully released for black hardware? The demo I have claims that it hadn't yet been so, and I recall discussion a ways back about id not wanting to release it without sound support. I've tried to get ahold of their tech support line, but it is quite busy. David Kelman kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: penny@il.us.swissbank.com (Penny Shaw) Subject: UNIX/NEXTSTEP Paging Software? Message-ID: <1994Nov9.175217.28877@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 17:52:17 GMT Looking to evaluate UNIX or NEXTSTEP paging software. Software must support multi-user paging, paging service file (or equivalent), provide status information, support multiple geographic locations, have a queue and perform retries when failure occurs, and be supported. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks, Penny
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Swapfile Behavior Date: 9 Nov 1994 18:33:07 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <39r4l3$d5h@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Hello, While I know NEXTSTEP doesn't automatically shrink the swapfile when the extra space is no longer required, I was yappin' at a fellow from WRI (Mathematica) about Mma being a real memory and swapspace hog and he said.... The second issue for you is about Next swapfiles getting huge which is due to their design, and is outside of WRI's control. The problem is that the swapfile will only shrink if all blocks in some final segment have been freed. So, if Task A uses a bunch of swap memory and then frees it, your swapfile will be back to normal. However if Task A uses a bunch of swap memory, and then Task B (perhaps from a different application) allocates a little bit that gets swapped, and then Task A frees its memory, your swap file will not shrink. This is in fact usually the case. It will probably never shrink, because by the time Task B frees its little bit of memory, there will have been a Task C that added to the swap file, and so on. The problem on the Next is not that it uses swapfiles as opposed to fixed partitions (in itself that is an excellent idea), it is that it hardly ever lets the swapfile shrink and leaves memory that had been used by former processes effectively useless after they quit for the reasons I described in my last message. Other Unix systems do not have this problem - when you quit out of a process the memory always becomes freed and available to other processes. This _is_ a serious problem specific to the Next. Unfortunately this behaviour is embedded in their design and is unlikely to change. I'm not sure how to interpret his statements. From one perspective, it would appear that the with continued use the swapfile would HAVE to grow continuously. This seems unreasonable as well as somewhat inconsistent with my observations from leaving my NeXTstation up and running for long periods of time. Any comments or observations? Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 Questions about 3.3 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:42:54 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <QikEcSq00iUxM4jKhm@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <39qlui$391@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 9-Nov-94 2 Questions about 3.3 by David A. Sinclair@cs.bra > *1 Does NS3.3 offer dynamically growing/shrinking swapfile, > rather than the dynamically growing/more growing one in > NS<3.3 ? The swapfile _will_ shrink under NEXTSTEP releases previous to 3.3. This has been documented previously by several people who monitor their swapfile size automatically. If you're really curious, bounce me mail and I'll forward you a message on this subject from the guy who wrote Mach, Avie Tevanian. > *2 Does the filesystem in NS3.3 finally allow for partitions > >2GB in size? I'm not sure that the user filesystem code has been fixed, so you may not be able to have > 2 GB local partitions, but I believe that support for > 2 GB remote partitions via NFS has been improved. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MailWatchView.BackO - Error in README Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:45:30 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <39r8sq$cph@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi. I have discovered an error in the README file that accompanies MailWatchView. My apologies for the inconvenience. From the README: If your mail is stored somewhere other than /usr/spool/mail, you may: > dwrite MailWatch MailPath "other/path/to/mail" Which should read: If your mail is stored somewhere other than /usr/spool/mail, you may: > dwrite MailWatch MailDir "other/path/to/mail" Hi ho, Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: freyrb@rhi.hi.is (Freyr Bergsteinsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mac under NeXT won't accept A4 as default Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:45:41 GMT Organization: University of Iceland Message-ID: <39r8t5$fmr@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> I'm running uShare to let my Mac communicate with my NeXT printer (through a NeXT station, of course). For some reason the Mac always takes the default setting of Letter as paper size, but I want it to be A4. Anybody got a clue? -- Freyr Bergsteinsson | freyr@nextmenn.is Head of software development | freyrb@rhi.hi.is ----------------------------------------+-------------------- NextMenn Inc. (soon to be Box Inc.) | Tel: +354-1-17722 Brautarholt 8 | Fax: 101 Reykjavik +---------------------+-------------------- Iceland |
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: commandline faxing? Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:37:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <39r8dv$5ab@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3027@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> In article <3027@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > > Are there (free or commercial) programs around which allow one to send faxes > from the commandline? I run "am" to receive faxes and NXFax (currently in > demo mode) to send them on a mono slab with a ZyXEL. However, this way only > the console user can send faxes. I have the following information that was given to me by a friend: To setup an email to fax, install the fax script in /usr/local/bin and then make a file as shown below, suppose that file is called "emailfax" and replace myfax with the name of your fax modem then just login as root and install aliases by typing: niload aliases . <emailfax and then type newaliases you can view your aliases with: nidump aliases . if all this does not work then you may need to make a copy of /etc/sendmail/aliases and put it in /etc/aliases ................ contents of "emailfax" below fax: "|/usr/local/bin/fax -C -S -m myfax" faxubc: "|/usr/local/bin/fax -C -p 6048225915 -m myfax" ........ then you can send an email to fax@yourmachine and put the fax number in the Subject field, or if you had setup a specific faxnumber in the alias such as in the faxubc example you can just email to faxubc@yourmachine ===========cut here #!/bin/sh # fax # Command-line faxing of text files. # # Use: # fax -p phonenumber [-f] [-t to] [-c coversheet] [-m faxmodem] [-s sender] [file...] # # Options: # -h Help. Display this list of options. # -p phonenumber Phone number to send this fax to. Mandatory. # -f Filter. Send the postscript to stdout, don't fax it. # -t to Recipient's name - will be written on cover sheet # -c coversheet Name of a cover sheet to use (e.g. "MyCover.draw") # (Default is "dread System FaxCoverFile") # -C No cover sheet, text only # -m faxmodem Which fax modem to use # (Default is "dread System Fax" - the last one you used) # -s sender Sender's name - will be written on cover sheet # -E 'options for enscript' # i.e -E '-r -fCourier-Bold14' to tell enscript # to use a different font, and landscape format. # -S Extract phone number from a "Subject: " line. # # file... Text Files to be converted to postscript and faxed. # Standard input will be faxed if no files specified. # # above blank line is important - "fax -h" prints this file down # to the first blank line. # # TODO # Position the cover sheet fields properly. (They're currently bottom-aligned, # should be top-aligned.) # Prompt user for commandline parameters if not specified. # Options for hi-res, notify, trim. # Option for deferred faxing. (%%NXDeferredUntil: YYYYMMDDHHMM) # Allow adding comments to the cover sheet. # (Perhaps allow having all the text go in the Comments: area, for a # quick one-page fax.) # Multiple recipients. # Get recipient names and numbers from the user's address book. # Convince everyone to get 'perl' so I can go back to my simpler perl version. # # The first version of this script was written in Perl and was # considerably cleaner - but, well, not everybody has perl. # Hence this clumsier "multi-architecture" shell script. # # Suggestions or fixes are most welcome. # # Steve Hayman # shayman@Objectario.com # July 7 1993 # # $Log: fax,v $ # Revision 0.19 93/11/05 16:59:38 shayman # changed the arg processing a bit so that "fax" with no options # generates an error. # # Revision 0.18 93/10/29 13:48:41 shayman # Handle postscript input. We check the first line for %!PS-Adobe, and # if found, skip the enscript step. # # Revision 0.17 93/10/29 10:34:14 shayman # Add "-h" option to extract and display a help summary. # # Revision 0.16 93/10/29 00:27:55 shayman # Added -S for extracting fax number from a Subject: line. Sort of # an experiment. # # Revision 0.15 93/10/08 01:37:36 shayman # add -E option as a way to pass arguments to enscript # # Revision 0.14 93/09/21 02:43:14 shayman # Look for %%Pages: at the beginning of a line only. # # Revision 0.13 93/07/14 00:21:47 shayman # fix some quoting problems. # i don't want to release any more /bin/sh versions of this! everybody # should have perl. grr. # # Revision 0.12 93/07/12 00:59:48 shayman # Check %%Pages properly in the enscript output # # Revision 0.11 93/07/12 00:41:49 shayman # More minor changes. This is getting ugly. # # Revision 0.10 93/07/12 00:13:10 shayman # Reorganized to put the fax cover sheet first. Could still cut down # on this a lot. # # Revision 0.9 93/07/11 18:42:50 shayman # Fix a couple of minor syntactical errors # # Revision 0.8 93/07/08 00:50:13 shayman # First version that seems to work. # PATH=/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH Pname=`basename $0` # Make a temp directory to hold some scratch files. tmpdir=/tmp/fax.$$ mkdir $tmpdir trap exit 1 2 3 15 trap 'rm -rf $tmpdir' 0 # Some variables that you can't change at the moment but which might # be command line options in the next version. faxNotify=YES faxHires=YES faxTrim=YES # Get some useful defaults. # redirect stderr on these dreads so they don't complain when a default # isn't found. faxModem=`dread System Fax 2>/dev/null | awk '{print $3}'` useCoverSheet=1 coverSheet=`dread System FaxCoverFile 2>/dev/null | awk '{print $3}'` case "$coverSheet" in "") coverSheet=Cover ;; esac # Default sender name is our own user name. # What's the best way to do a getpwent($USER) in a shell script? hmm. # Perhaps # sender=`nidump passwd / | awk -F: '$1 == "'$USER'" { print $5 } '` # but who knows if this user is defined in the / domain. # # Well here is one way. (Assuming you haven't replaced the stock finger prog.) sender=`finger $USER | sed -e 's/.*In real life: //' -e 1q` # # parse cmdline options # Usage='Usage: '$Pname' -p phonenumber [-t to] [-c cover] [-m modem] [-s sender] file... Use '$Pname' -h for a quick summary of the options.' while test $# -gt 0; do case $1 in -p) shift; phoneNumber=${1?$Usage} ;; -t) shift; to=${1?$Usage} ;; -c) shift; coverSheet=${1?$Usage} ;; -m) shift; faxModem=${1?$Usage} ;; -s) shift; sender=${1?$Usage} ;; -f) filterOnly=1 ;; -C) useCoverSheet=0 ;; -E) shift; enscriptArgs=${1?$Usage} ;; -S) numberFromSubject=1 ;; -h) # Help. # Print out this file from the beginning to the first # blank line. sed -n -e '/^$/q' -e '2,$s/^#//p' $0 1>&2 exit 1 ;; -*) echo $Usage 1>&2 ; exit 1 ;; *) break ;; esac shift done # # Must have at least a phone number or -S specified. # The other options, we don't care. # case "$phoneNumber$numberFromSubject" in "") echo "$Pname: Must specify a phone number." 1>&2 echo $Usage 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac # # if there are no arguments left, we are faxing data from stdin. # it is convenient to save that off in a file and then deal with # the file name from now on. # Makes it easier to grep over all the input looking for something. # stdin=$tmpdir/stdin case "$#" in 0) cat >$stdin; set - $stdin # $* is now the name of our temp file. ;; esac # # Option "-S" means "look for the phone number in the "Subject: " line. # case "$numberFromSubject" in 1) case "$phoneNumber" in "") ;; *) echo "$0: Cannot use '-p' and '-S' together." 1>&2; exit 1 ;; esac # find the phone number in the first Subject line in our input. phoneNumber=`grep '^Subject: ' $* | sed -n -e 's/^Subject: //' -e p -e q` # did we find one? case "$phoneNumber" in "") echo "$0: Cannot find a Subject: line with a phone number." 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac # And proceed now as if the phonenumber had been given on the # command line. ;; esac # # Must also have a fax modem in mind. # case "$faxModem" in "") echo "$Pname: No fax modem specified." 1>&2 echo $Usage 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac # # OK. # Anything left on the command line is a file to be faxed; if no files # specified, we will fax standard input. # # Track down the cover sheet. # todo: could look in other language directories for dir in ~/Library/Fax /LocalLibrary/Fax /NextLibrary/Fax/English.lproj; do if test -d $dir/$coverSheet; then coverDir=$dir/$coverSheet fi done case "$useCoverSheet" in 0) ;; *) case "$coverDir" in "") echo "$Pname: Couldn't find cover sheet named '$coverSheet'." 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac ;; esac # Now (optionally) enscript the files specified on the command line # to convert them to postscript. Append the Fax comments after line 1 # # Of course the input might be postscript already, in which case # we skip the "enscript" step and hope that things work out OK. # # # Enscript's output looks like this... # # %!PS-Adobe-3.0 # ... various enscript header things # %%Pages: (atend) # %%Page: ? 1 # StartPage # ... postscript for page 1 # EndPage # %%Page: ? 2 # StartPage # ... postscript for page 2 # EndPage # %%Trailer # end # %%Pages: 2 # # So, we copy everything until we see the %%Trailer line, then add # one more page by appending the fax cover sheet, and then we output # our own %%Trailer, end and %%Pages line (incrementing the Pages # value by one.) # # The fax comments are added after the first line. psOutput=$tmpdir/psOutput # # Is the input data already postscript? # it might be stdin so we have to save it; then check the first line # for %!. # firstLine=`cat $* | head -1` case "$firstLine" in %!PS-Adobe*) isPostscript=1 ;; esac # If it's postscript, just copy the input files to the output; otherwise # run them through "enscript". case "$isPostscript" in 1) cat $* ;; "") enscript -l -q -p - $enscriptArgs $* ;; esac >$psOutput # # And we have to take a peek to see how many pages were created, so that # we can fill in the Pages: field in the cover sheet properly. # Pages=`grep '^%%Pages: [0123456789]' $psOutput | awk '{print $2}'` Pages=`expr $Pages + 1` # # Now the (optional) cover sheet construction begins. # case "$useCoverSheet" in 0) myCoverSheet=/dev/null ;; *) # Put together a cover sheet with the appropriate boxes filled in. # $coverDir/form.eps is a background file; $coverDir/form.info is a list # of field names and coordinates. myCoverSheet=$tmpdir/CoverSheet.eps cat $coverDir/form.eps >$myCoverSheet # This awk script reads the form.info file, and the variables we want, # and outputs the appropriate postscript (appended to the CoverSheet.eps # file.) ( echo Date=`date` echo Pages=$Pages echo From=$sender echo To=$to ) | awk >>$myCoverSheet ' # These offset values for some reason cause the fields # to line up better. (Determined by trial and error) BEGIN { XOffset = 0; YOffset = 5 } /Page Size:/ { next } /Entry:/ { entry = $2; next } /Font:/ { Font[entry] = $2; next } /Font Size:/ { FontSize[entry] = $3; next } /Text Gray:/ { TextGray[entry] = $3; next } # Location: x = 104, y = 596, w = 419, h = 18 /Location:/ { # damn commas X[entry] = substr($4, 1, length($4) - 1) Y[entry] = substr($7, 1, length($7) - 1) W[entry] = substr($10, 1, length($10) - 1) H[entry] = $13 next } # Anything below here with an = sign represents the variables we # stuffed into awk, i.e. "To=the recipient name" /\=/ { split($0, a, "=") fieldName=a[1] fieldValue=a[2] printf "%f %f moveto\n", X[fieldName] + XOffset, Y[fieldName] + YOffset printf "%s setgray\n", TextGray[fieldName] printf "/%s findfont %s scalefont setfont\n", Font[fieldName], FontSize[fieldName] printf "(%s) show\n", fieldValue } END { print "showpage\n" } ' $coverDir/form.info - ;; esac # This awk script puts everything together. # Read the enscript output, insert various things (%%NXFax comments, # the cover sheet) in the right spots. # Adjust the %%Page: comments as needed. # # Note that we take advantage of an awk feature not documented in # the man page: you can put VAR=VALUE on the commandline to set variables. # We do this to get the values for phoneNumber, faxNotify and so on into # the awk script so that we can output them as part of the header. awk ' NR == 1 { # Output a postscript header, including # the NXFax variables. print "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" print "%% These variables set by the fax shell script." print "%%NXFaxVersion: 300" print "%%NXFaxNumber:", phoneNumber print "%%NXFaxTo:", to print "%%NXFaxNotify:", faxNotify print "%%NXFaxHires:", faxHires print "%%NXFaxTrim:", faxTrim } # # Skip this header line, since we printed it out above. # /^%!PS-Adobe/ { next } # # Gobble up and save away all the lines of the cover file so we # can write it out again later part way through the enscript document. # FILENAME == coverSheet { Cover[coverLine++] = $0; next } # # Below this point, we know we are looking at the enscript document. # # # When we see %%EndSetup, that is our cue to output the cover page. # (If there was one - if coverLine is 0, we had a 0-length cover sheet, # meaning we do not want a cover sheet.) /^%%EndSetup/ { print if ( coverLine ) { print "%%Page: ? 1" for ( i = 0; i < coverLine; i++ ) { print Cover[i] } } next } # # Whenever we see a page number, add 1 to it to account for the cover sheet # (if there was one.) /^%%Page: / { if ( coverLine ) { actualPage = $3 + 1 print $1, $2, actualPage next } } # # Similarly, the %%Pages: n header at the end needs to be incremented. # (but check for a digit so we are not looking at %%Pages: (atend) /^%%Pages: / { if ( coverLine ) { if ( $2 ~ /[0123456789]/ ) { print $1 ($2 + 1) } else { print } next } } # # Anything else must just be a line in the enscript document, so print it. # { print } # note that the next 6 lines are actually variables that we are passing # to awk on the command line, so they must be quoted properly to preserve # spaces. # (and we then hand it two real files, $myCoverSheet and $psOutput) ' phoneNumber="$phoneNumber" \ to="$to" \ faxNotify="$faxNotify" \ faxHires="$faxHires" \ faxTrim="$faxTrim" \ coverSheet="$myCoverSheet" \ $myCoverSheet $psOutput \ | case "$filterOnly" in 1) cat ;; *) lpr -P$faxModem ;; esac exit 0 --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard) Subject: How to cancel an article in Newsgrazer? was NS-3.3 upgrade for $79? NOT. Message-ID: <Cz0JFB.3nx@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <39qnem$2vv@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:30:46 GMT This reminds me of something I wanted to ask. How do you cancel an article posted to usenet with Newsgrazer. Is it possible? Mario In article <39qnem$2vv@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson) writes: > Folks, > > I recently made an error when posting a note in reply to the SoftPC > upgrade thread. > > My error was that I wasn't clicked on the correct message when I pressed > "followup" in NewsGrazer. The title came out as "Re: NS-3.3 does not work > with NS-Developer 3.2?..." instead of "Re: SoftPC 4.0 Available?". I > immediately realized my mistake (as I let go of the "post" button) and > posted a retraction. Apparently my retraction wasn't loud enough. > > A lot of people read my message and (quite understandably) assumed I was > talking about the NS-3.3 upgrade, when I was really talking about the > SoftPC 4.0 ugrade, which costs $79. > > As far as I know, the price for the NS-3.3 upgrade is $199. Please stop > sending me requests for where you can buy it for $79! You can't! > > 8^) > > -- > Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist > Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office > 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager > St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: WARNING: dangerous bug in gnutar Message-ID: <1994Nov9.235830.13686@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 23:58:30 GMT There is a dangerous bug in gnutar. This bug has been confirmed on both Solaris and NEXTSTEP 3.2: BUG: The update option 'u' of gnutar does not work as advertised. BACKGROUND: The man page for tar (NEXTSTEP lacks a manpage for gnutar) states: u The named files are added to the tape if either they are not already there or have been modified since last put on the tape. The --help option of gnutar states: -u, --update only append files that are newer than copy in archive DETAILS: Given these two descriptions it would seem that the u option would result in a sensible behavior whereby files that didn't exist before are added to the tar and files newer than what is on the tar are updated. The actual behavior between tar(1) and gnutar (/usr/bin/gnutar) varies dramatically (and dangerously for those using gnutar to backup a filesystem) as illustrated in the following test: a) USING /usr/bin/gnutar (NEXTSTEP 3.2) localhost[1] mkdir stuff localhost[2] touch stuff/xxx localhost[3] gnutar -cvf stuff.gnutar ./stuff /stuff/ /stuff/xxx localhost[4] touch stuff/xxx localhost[5] gnutar -uvf stuff.gnutar ./stuff localhost[6] echo "Make xxx bigger" >> stuff/xxx localhost[7] gnutar -uvf stuff.gnutar ./stuff localhost[8] touch stuff/yyy localhost[9] gnutar -uvf stuff.gnutar ./stuff /stuff/ /stuff/xxx /stuff/yyy localhost[10] rm -rf stuff localhost[11] gnutar -xvf stuff.gnutar /stuff/ /stuff/xxx /stuff/ /stuff/xxx /stuff/yyy b) USING /bin/tar (NEXTSTEP 3.2) localhost[1] mkdir stuff localhost[2] touch stuff/xxx localhost[3] tar -cvf stuff.tar ./stuff a ./stuff/xxx 0 blocks localhost[4] touch stuff/xxx localhost[5] tar -uvf stuff.tar ./stuff a ./stuff/xxx 0 blocks localhost[6] echo "Make xxx bigger" > stuff/xxx localhost[7] tar -uvf stuff.tar ./stuff a ./stuff/xxx 1 block localhost[8] touch stuff/yyy localhost[9] tar -uvf stuff.tar ./stuff a ./stuff/yyy 0 blocks localhost[10] rm -rf ./stuff localhost[11] tar -xvf stuff.tar x ./stuff/xxx, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks x ./stuff/xxx, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks x ./stuff/xxx, 16 bytes, 1 tape blocks x ./stuff/yyy, 0 bytes, 0 tape blocks Compare the output of gnutar and tar on execution lines 5 and 7. You'll see that gnutar didn't update the tar file in each of these cases, whereas tar did so correctly. We use gnutar to backup our filesystem since it provides the mangling of long filenames that /bin/tar can't handle. How is it that this bug has not been noticed before? -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: steve.lynch@cyberstore.ca (Steven Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: This is only a test Date: 10 Nov 1994 00:50:00 GMT Organization: MicroSeis Technology Ltd. Message-ID: <39rqno$81u@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Hi, anyone who is reading this is wasting their time. All I am trying to do is to get my !@#$$%^# newsreader to post something somehwere with out crashing. Cheers all the same
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Message-ID: <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:12:42 GMT In article <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: >So what's the word? Does NeXTTIME support the mono slab? > I've used NeXTIME on a B&W Slab and Cube, and it worked on both, although perforamnce was poor. So it will work now. However, NeXTIME is based on Interceptor technology, of which I have heard this said, "if you write a program using Interceptor, no guarentee is made that it will run on every video platform" So it's very possible that in the future it will cease to work on B&W NeXT hardware. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: 3270 Emulation Message-ID: <Cz0vp3.8Kr@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <39oc7v$lte@news.iastate.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 22:55:51 GMT Rod Ragner (rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu) wrote: : Are there any IBM 3270 Terminal Emulation packages available for NEXTSTEP : (either NeXT or Intel)? If there are, would someone be so kind as to : provide me with the name and contact of the provider? 3270Vision from Conextions, Inc. info@conextions.com (508)689-3570 (508)689-2450 FAX --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frigtening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Keeping track of printing -- how? Date: 10 Nov 1994 01:20:04 GMT Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Distribution: world Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Nov10012004@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> I'm not sure that this is a NS specific question -- so please redirect me if this is the wrong newsgroup. One of our laser printers is a 400dpi NextPrinter which hangs off a black NeXT cube running NS 3.2. I would like very much to keep a log of each printjob _including_ the size of the job. lpd seems to keep logs (in /usr/adm/lpd-errs) but there is no mention of the size of the job, but only of the start and end times. This gives some indication but is far from what I need. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to do this and how? Many thanks, --jmf -- +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | email: J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | | | or | | check out http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html on the WWW. | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Modem dialin problems! Date: 9 Nov 1994 21:45:00 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <39rfss$j0k@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: USR HST, NeXT, Hardware Handshaking cable We have the following: NeXT 040 slab NeXTStep 3.0 & USR Dual Standard 21.6k on serial port A with a Hardware handshaking cable. I can callout, via tip (tip -38400 a9600), just fine - and connect at 21.6kbps a-ok. I *CANNOT* calling in!! The modems connect, and then nothing happens (no login prompt or anything). Though it does connect with a 21600/21600 connection (which is what it should have). If I type anything, I receive data over the modem, but it is just garbage... and yes, ARQ is ON. Any ideas? Here's important info: /etc/ttys: ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" dialup on Here is an ati4 dump from the modem: B0 C0 E1 F1 M1 Q1 V1 X7 BAUD=38400 PARITY=E WORDLEN=7 DIAL=HUNT ON HOOK TIMER &A0 &B1 &C1 &D2 &G0 &H1 &I0 &K1 &L0 &M4 &N0 &P0 &R2 &S0 &T5 &X0 &Y1 %N6 S00=001 S01=000 S02=043 S03=013 S04=010 S05=008 S06=002 S07=060 S08=002 S09=006 S10=007 S11=070 S12=050 S13=000 S14=000 S15=000 S16=000 S17=000 S18=000 S19=000 S20=000 S21=010 S22=017 S23=019 S24=150 S25=005 S26=001 S27=000 S28=008 S29=020 S30=000 S31=000 S32=005 S33=000 S34=000 S35=000 S36=000 S37=000 S38=000 S39=000 S40=000 S41=000 S42=126 S43=200 S44=015 S45=000 S46=000 S47=000 S48=000 S49=000 S50=000 S51=000 S52=000 S53=000 Explanations: &a=0 ARQ result codes disabled. &B=1 (DTE) Fixed DTE Rate (ie 38400 set in /etc/ttys). The modem always communicates with the DTE at the rate at which you have set the terminal or software, regardless of the link rate. &c=1 Modem sends CD signal when it connects with another modem, drops CD on disconnect. &d=2 (DTR) Normal DTR Operations. The terminal or computer must send a DTR signal for the modem to accept commands. Dropping DTR terminates a call. &H=1 Hardware flow control. Requires that your DTE and software support CTS at the RS-232 interface. &k=1 Auto enable/disable (default). Disabled if modem is set to &b0 and DTE rate switches to match link rate. &R=2 Hardware flow control of received data enabled. The modem sends data to the DTE only on receipt of the RTS signal. &s=0 DRS override, always ON (default). The cable pinouts: din8 db25 1 20 2 8 3 2 4 7 5 3 6 4 7 - 8 5 I was told (by madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) that the important control signals are DTR and DCD. The modem needs to be setup to respond to DTR and generate DCD in a specific way. When DTR is asserted, the modem should allow auto-answer and respond to commands. When DTR is desasserted, it should not allow the above, and also hang up the phone if it was off-hook. The modem should assert DCD if and only if a carrier is detected. Any ideas here? -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu : Call The Atomic Playground : :NeXTmail: shane@galadriel.ecaetc.ohio-state.edu : (614)297-7031 96/14.4/28.8 : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 10 Nov 1994 02:30:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <39r4l3$d5h@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mark E. Kotanchek writes > While I know NEXTSTEP doesn't automatically shrink the swapfile.... We've been through this one so many times that it ought to be in the FAQ. In fact, I think it _is_ in the FAQ, but what they claim there is wrong, so people eventually disbelieve it, post complaints, get shouted down, and crawl back under their rock until someone else disbelieves it.... Mr. Tevanian (sp?) at NeXT posted a long article in which he explained the theory. First of all, you can ALWAYS recover the vanilla Unix behavior, meaning that you swap on a separate partition and die horribly when you have a page to swap out and no room to put it. All you have to do is to make a partition called swapdisk, or put a hiwat mark at the maximum size you want for your swapfile. So the claim that NeXT's behavior is uniquely obnoxious is nonsense. A Sun's behavior is a special case of a NeXT's. Now, it is true that the swapfile does not shrink unless the highest block allocated in it is freed. So if Mma takes 80 MB, and then the window server or some other long-lived app needs a single page, the 80 MB will stay in your swapfile. *This is not a problem in itself.* The vacant space below the high page will be reused as needed, and ONLY when a program needs still more than that will the swapfile grow again. Since you DID need the 80 MB at one point, you're likely to need it again, so this behavior is NOT a misfeature. Any sort of swapfile rearrangement would run into both performance problems and conceptual implementation problems (what if the tidy-upper itself has to be swapped out in midstream?), and since there is no sensible reason to want such a feature, it is not going to be implemented. In short, you get the best of all worlds: your swapfile is only as big as the biggest swapspace you have ever needed at one time, and occasionally gets smaller than that. In a long post last spring, I showed the behavior of my swapfile at hourly intervals over a month---shrinkages of 2 or 3 MB occur almost every time I walk away from the computer. This `swapfile never shrinks' story from WRI is anti-NeXT propaganda and should be stepped on vigorously every time it sticks its head back up. So much for the theory. The behavior I observed in that one-month sample could not be reconciled entirely with the theory: in particular, my swapfile, while frequently shrinking a bit, and while certainly reusing swapspace, seemed to inevitably grow without bound in the long run. The sort of thing that I would see was 40 MB -> 70 MB (Mma session) -> 66 MB (session over) -> 66 MB (later session---swapspace obviously being reused!) -> 90 MB (new session, a week later---grew again!) -> 96 MB (no discernable reason) -> 135 MB (big graphics project, days later), and so on. This is apparently the behavior everyone sees and complains about. The rate at which it happens seems to depend very sharply on the available memory and on the initial swapfile size: people with 8 MB and a 16 MB swapfile seem to wind up with a 100 MB swapfile within a week, while 24/40 seems to result in behavior that departs from the Tevanian Theory only on a scale of many months. Cliff Matthew (of ARDI fame) actually wrote a short C program that manifested this serious bug in a raw form: he could eat up 50 MB of swapfile in less than a minute, and never have it freed for the use of other programs. If such code lives in the window server (and it very logically might; after all, the window server has its origins as a PostScript renderer, and a real printer doesn't have to worry about freeing memory; it just flushes after each page), then that would be the culprit. I don't think anyone has learned anything beyond what I've just written, and I don't think NeXT has ever responded to reports of the second-order problem I've described---mostly because people who believe in the fictitious first-order problem just get sent a copy of Tevanian's article and told to go see figure 1. The fact that it only severely affects underpowered machines means that the folks at NeXT are unlikely to see it, and frankly I don't think they believe it exists, no matter how many people see it. Cliff's compact swap-eater was an important step toward making them recognize the problem; I don't know if anything has come of it. To summarize: * NeXT can do fixed swap partitions, just like a Unix box. * Swapfiles that don't grow until you need them are BETTER, even if they don't shrink, provided you can set a hiwat. * Swapfiles that sometimes shrink are BETTER YET. * Even if they don't shrink, having the freed-up pages reusable is NO WORSE than having the file shrink outright, for reasonable situations. * There is something wrong with the implementation, such that either pages are not freed up (bug in running software, possibly NeXT's), or freed pages are not reusable (bug in VM management). The bug is subtle, and is empirically not a problem for users with adequate memory and initial swap space. A lot of people don't see it, and keep writing in to deny it exists. A lot of people are up against it constantly, and keep writing in to claim that the swapfile ALWAYS grows irreversibly. Both are wrong. If we could take the above as the starting point for any future discussion, maybe we could get somewhere, instead of hashing the argument over again and again without facts. Ticketron Law of Cosmology: |================================================== Space is infinite...but | Joshua W Burton 401/435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu seating is usually limited. |==================================================
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca (Eric Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP Thinkjet => TIFF filter? Date: 9 Nov 1994 21:56:59 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <39rgjb$lf7@tribune.usask.ca> Our lab has a piece of test equipment that can produce data plots on an HP Thinkjet printer. This is okay, I suppose, except that we don't *have* a Thinkjet. Also it would be handy to be able to store and manipulate digital copies of the plots. What I'm looking for is a filter program that accepts HP Thinkjet codes and produces a TIFF or PostScript image. Any ideas where such a filter might be found? -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: commandline faxing? Date: 9 Nov 1994 22:57:10 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39rk46$e7v@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39r8dv$5ab@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> In article <3027@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh) writes: > > Are there (free or commercial) programs around which allow one to send faxes from the commandline? BenaTong makes CommandLine Fax, which is a utility that does this. The price is $49. Sincerely, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source For NEXTSTEP Stuff" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) *My Opinions Are My Own!
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Doom for Black? Date: 9 Nov 1994 23:00:29 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39rkad$eeg@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cz0Kop.3ux@ncifcrf.gov> In article <Cz0Kop.3ux@ncifcrf.gov> kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) writes: : Was Doom ever fully released for black hardware? The demo I have claims :that it hadn't yet been so, and I recall discussion a ways back about id not :wanting to release it without sound support. I've tried to get ahold of their :tech support line, but it is quite busy. : :David Kelman :kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov Doom is now fat. It will run on black hardware. You can get it from the archive sites (ftp.cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu). My understanding is that the development studs from OmniGroup are working on DoomII for NEXTSTEP (this one won't be free). I can hardly wait....and I hope that we will get to carry it for them! -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "Everything for NEXTSTEP" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) *My misinterpretations only. Don't blame anybody else!
From: 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 10 Nov 1994 00:17:32 GMT Organization: Jerusalem1 at DataServe LTD. Information services Message-ID: <39roqs$b86@axil.datasrv.co.il>
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Transys PNI: How can I hang up ? Date: 9 Nov 1994 06:23:51 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <39qm1n$b0r@runner.uucp> References: <1994Nov2.203406.20067@instep.wimsey.com> <39djvt$nv6@pong.ping.at> <39gbsq$4dk@runner.uucp> <39p2r7$63h@pith.uoregon.edu> Nick Fogelson (fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu) wrote: : How can you not do the pnistat command from a different terminal window. : After I do the pnirun command that terminal is locked up until I close the SLIP session. Once it is closed, I can use that terminal agin. : P.S. I use /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0 and it works just fine. : (although I have to do a su and a ifconfig down pni0 to use my printer again) : Nick Fogelson Notice the '&' after the following command? It puts pnirun in the background. /etc/pni/pnirun pni0 & This lets me use the terminal window for anything else. (Except /etc/pni/bin/pnistat -c down pni0 doesn't work from THIS terminal window.) -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: Need MPEG and/or .mov players Message-ID: <Cz15uK.LK2@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 02:35:08 GMT I need to obtain a mpeg player and a .mov player for NSfip 3.2. Freeware or shareware only w/ source code preferred. I want to use it with OmniWeb. Thanks, --Felix coco@erika.cb.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: MailWatchView - a BackSpace Module Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cz1GKx.LL0@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 06:26:57 GMT References: <39lao0$ivm@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> Organization: NDSU ACM In article <39lao0$ivm@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu> wrote: >MailWatchView - a BackSpaceModule > >Currently on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions/MailWatchView.tar.gz >Eventually on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/screen/MailWatchView.tar.gz I've tried it, and I like it! It's free, and great for you to use if you don't want to have to login to see if you have mail. (Used in conjunction with SpaceSaver, that is.) If you have any questions on how I set it up, feel free to reply! -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 10 Nov 1994 08:43:11 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <39smev$nt3@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> In article <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> marty@sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) writes: >I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. You can't. At least, not legally. It's a licensed commercial product. You may be able to find some not-quite-clones out there--but if you want the real thing, you'd need to pay. (And no, I don't know who, if anyone, is currently selling a NEXTSTEP-compatible version.) -=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:11:45 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <39so4h$ok8@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Nov7.173839.287@titan.sfasu.edu> <1994Nov8.203722.17410@il.us.swissbank.com> Do you want NeXT to keep supporting Black Hardware or not? If Motorola users don't ante up for 3.3, their marketroids can cheerfully interpret that as meaning y'all want to be stuck with 3.2 forever. NeXT will coerce all commercial developers to convert to The New Religion and insist that all future versions of Your Favorite Software require Foundation Kit and/or EOF. This will ensure your existing hardware becomes worthless because it won't be able to run any new NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software. Then you can shell out big bucks for a viable RISC workstation and repurchase everything you depend on now (and don't expect your current licenses to be transferable/upgradable). Of course, we all know hppa and sparc binaries _have to_ sell for 3-4 times the price of their m68k counterparts. At this point you'll be so fed up with NeXT, you'll buy an Intel SleazeBox to run OS/2 Warp. :-) :-) :-) -=EPS=- -- "Don't blame me--I bought a Macintosh."
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RESUBMISSION: MailWatchView.BackO Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:28:19 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <39t75j$60e@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi. I apologize to all of the POP3 and Eloquent.app users who downloaded MailWatchView.BackO and found that it didn't work as advertised. You see, I was just checking for the existence of /usr/spool/mail/username. This didn't work with mail clients that null the file after reading rather than removing it like Mail.app. A new improved version, which also implements better coloring and a few more configuration options (via dwrites) is available NOW at ftp.cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions, and should replace the bugged version in /pub/next/sources/screen soon. For those who missed the original post, here's an excerpt from the README: MailWatchView - a BackSpace module Description: ----------- Names of users bounce around the screen like gas particles in a box. Generally, the names are dark gray however, when a user has mail waiting, the name changes white (on 2-bit systems) or changes color to indicate amount of mail (on color systems). The purpose of this module is to save users the trouble of logging in just to see if they have mail. The module has become especially useful since the release of SpaceSaver by Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU. This replacement for loginwindow.app's ScreenSaver.bundle allows the root user to specify a BackSpace module to run on top of the login window. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: abe@vic.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Abell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WARNING: dangerous bug in gnutar Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:11:36 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <39t668$a4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <1994Nov9.235830.13686@instep.wimsey.com> In article <1994Nov9.235830.13686@instep.wimsey.com> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: > >There is a dangerous bug in gnutar. This bug has been confirmed on both >Solaris and NEXTSTEP 3.2: > >BUG: The update option 'u' of gnutar does not work as advertised. > >... > >How is it that this bug has not been noticed before? Franc,ois Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> currently has in Beta test a new version of GNU tar that fixes many reported bugs. He recently assumed maintenance of GNU tar after a period in which little maintenance had been done and promptly responded to several bug reports I had filed. Perhaps your bug has been fixed. You certainly should send e-mail to Franc,ois to make sure the bug you believe you have found has been reported. It may even be fixed in the upcoming 1.11.5 release of GNU tar. Vic Abell
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Groupware Calendar Date: 10 Nov 1994 14:02:58 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <39t96i$e8@relay2.oleane.net> We are looking for a shared calendar under NS. Please e-mail if you have something interesting. Thanks, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French Branch of PIPEX INTERNATIONAL .................WWW:http://www.oleane.net/........................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Message-ID: <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39r4l3$d5h@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.brown.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:23:20 GMT In article <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.brown.edu>, Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote: >Mark E. Kotanchek writes [ 100% accurate article on swapfile details omitted... ] > >If such code lives in the window server (and it very logically might; after >all, the window server has its origins as a PostScript renderer, and a real >printer doesn't have to worry about freeing memory; it just flushes after >each page), then that would be the culprit. I don't think anyone has learned >anything beyond what I've just written, and I don't think NeXT has ever >responded to reports of the second-order problem I've described---mostly >because people who believe in the fictitious first-order problem just get >sent a copy of Tevanian's article and told to go see figure 1. The fact >that it only severely affects underpowered machines means that the folks at >NeXT are unlikely to see it, and frankly I don't think they believe it exists, >no matter how many people see it. Cliff's compact swap-eater was an important >step toward making them recognize the problem; I don't know if anything has >come of it. Just another data point: In the past I used to view a bunch of images with OmniImage/OmniImageViewer (double click on file in Workspace, examine image, click close button, repeat). However, on my machine (NS/I w/32MB) this would cause the swapfile to grow without bounds, and eventually freeze my machine up when I ran out of disk space. Logging out and logging in as 'exit' to restart the window manager had no effect on the swap. IE: - log in - swap is at 16MB (lowat) - start up OmniImage _once_, and view a bunch of images one at a time - swap is now up to 70MB - log out, log in as exit, then re-log in - swap is _still_ at 70MB, no shrinkage. Okay... - view 2-3 more images -- swap is now at 80MB. This is 100% reproducible. However, if I do exactly the same thing with ImageViewer, my swap rarely grows beyond 20MB. Since re-starting the window server didn't make any difference, this seems to point more to a problem with vm; where an application can allocate memory that will live beyond the life of the application itself. The following excerpt from a posting by Erik Kay <2sgi13$f2t@rosie.next.com> (on a different topic) seems to confirm that this is possible: > Actually, this is not the problem. NXMapFile opens the file, does a > map_fd, then closes the file descriptor. When you map_fd memory, you need > to vm_dealloc it when you're done with it. Otherwise, the page will > remain busy. The question is, is this a bug in our docs or in NXClose? > You can work around this problem by using this instead: > > NXCloseMemory(stream, NX_FREEBUFFER); This seems to indicate that: 1) it is possible to allocate pages that remain busy beyond the life of the application ("feature"? of mach) 2) this would fit the ever-expanding-swap scenario that I outlined above, even with a completely bug-free window server and swap implementation. 2) the problem is with mis-behaving applications (assuming you buy the explanation that point 1. is supposed to be a 'feature'). This might explain why NeXT doesn't consider it a "bug". My NS machine is at home at the moment, otherwise I'd write up some code to see if the above actually is the problem. Comments? -- Jonathan
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3270 Emulation Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:29:16 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39te8c$q6a@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cz0vp3.8Kr@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Cz0vp3.8Kr@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > Rod Ragner (rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu) wrote: > : Are there any IBM 3270 Terminal Emulation packages available for NEXTSTEP > : (either NeXT or Intel)? If there are, would someone be so kind as to > : provide me with the name and contact of the provider? > > 3270Vision from Conextions, Inc. > info@conextions.com > (508)689-3570 > (508)689-2450 FAX > > --Chris > Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love > Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frigtening? > csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. > chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you." Also Cables by Yrrid. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: taka@phantom.oit.gatech.edu (Taka Torimoto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I get rz/sz for my NeXT? Date: 10 Nov 1994 11:27:26 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <39thle$7r8@phantom.oit.gatech.edu> Where can I get rz/sz for my NeXTstation Turbo (System release 3.0)?? -Taka -- Takahito "Dr.Love" Torimoto Amiga 4000/Warp40 + Amiga 3000/25 Georgia Tech Electrical Engineer 1996 Quadra 950+ emulation by Emplant E-mail: gt0154a@acme.gatech.edu VideoToaster4000/Spectrum/OneStop/AD516 Home Page: http://www.gatech.edu/oit/staff/ns/taka.html <under construction>
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:24:32 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <39r4l3$d5h@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> In article <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > >Mr. Tevanian (sp?) at NeXT posted a long article in which he explained the >theory. First of all, you can ALWAYS recover the vanilla Unix behavior, >meaning that you swap on a separate partition and die horribly when you >have a page to swap out and no room to put it. All you have to do is to >make a partition called swapdisk, or put a hiwat mark at the maximum size >you want for your swapfile. So the claim that NeXT's behavior is uniquely >obnoxious is nonsense. A Sun's behavior is a special case of a NeXT's. Whoa there! First, when you make a "swapdisk" NEXTSTEP makes a "swapfile" on the "swapdisk." This is not the same as other UNIXes swapping to raw partitions, but is identical to what they already do. Check out /etc/rc.swap. Secondly, other UNIX computers do not freeze up and die horribly when they run out of VM. Our Sparc2 says "out of memory" and kills the process that made the overflow. You can recover from this situation: on NEXTSTEP, your only recovery is a power cycle, which means of course that you can lose data. NS 3.3 addresses this by having the Workspace Manager wanr you when your disk usage falls below 10M free, and 2M free. A lousy hack, but worlds better than before. >Now, it is true that the swapfile does not shrink unless the highest block >allocated in it is freed. So if Mma takes 80 MB, and then the window server >or some other long-lived app needs a single page, the 80 MB will stay in >your swapfile. *This is not a problem in itself.* The vacant space below >the high page will be reused as needed, and ONLY when a program needs still There's also an issue of fragmentation of the swapfile, and what it does. >occur almost every time I walk away from the computer. This `swapfile >never shrinks' story from WRI is anti-NeXT propaganda and should be stepped >on vigorously every time it sticks its head back up. Why would a company that sells products on NEXTSTEP be releasing Anti-NeXT propaganda? If anything, the person may not be totally informed. >To summarize: > >* NeXT can do fixed swap partitions, just like a Unix box. Not it can't. It can put a dynamically growing swapfile on a partition that you call "swapdisk" and the user is expected to pretend it's doing what other UNIXes do. >* Swapfiles that don't grow until you need them are BETTER, even if they > don't shrink, provided you can set a hiwat. As long as they don't give you a glorious system hang when hitting hiwat, or running out of disk space. As NeXT's does, I'd have to contest this. >* Swapfiles that sometimes shrink are BETTER YET. Yes. >* Even if they don't shrink, having the freed-up pages reusable is NO WORSE > than having the file shrink outright, for reasonable situations. Unless it gets horribly fragmented, and there's no mechanism for repairing this. >* There is something wrong with the implementation, such that either pages > are not freed up (bug in running software, possibly NeXT's), or freed > pages are not reusable (bug in VM management). The bug is subtle, and is > empirically not a problem for users with adequate memory and initial > swap space. A lot of people don't see it, and keep writing in to deny > it exists. A lot of people are up against it constantly, and keep writing > in to claim that the swapfile ALWAYS grows irreversibly. Both are wrong. If I start walking to Toronto from Montreal, and for every two steps forward I take one step backwards, would you not say I was walking irreversibly towards Toronto? >If we could take the above as the starting point for any future discussion, >maybe we could get somewhere, instead of hashing the argument over again and >again without facts. This is why it should be nicely documented and put in the FAQ, if it hasn't been already. I don't pretend that my understanding of the issue hasn't blurred a bit with time too. - db -- Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!" Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PNI-1.12 and Mux compatibility Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:44:32 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <39u480$hb1@dogmatix.cs.uoregon.edu> I short time ago I posted a article to this newsgroup about PNI mysteriously becoming broken. I've found the cause, and yet more info, but still not a good cure. Twice in the past I have configured my system so that PNI-1.12 works with the MuxV1.4 serial port driver. Being the lazy person that I am, I've fallen into the habit of typeing 'reboot' at the command line to power down my Intel based machine. I am now quite certain that typeing 'reboot' breaks something when running both PNI and Mux. When the system is restarted and the pnirun script is processed, the system will then crash when pni-reloc is loaded. The most upsetting caveat to all this is that I am now no longer able to configure my system so that PNI and Mux can work together. If you've built a robust configuration using both PNI and Mux please help. thanx jCandlish . . .
From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 10 Nov 1994 22:18:42 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <39u682$rcm@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> In article <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes: > > In the past I used to view a bunch of images with > OmniImage/OmniImageViewer (double click on file in Workspace, examine > image, click close button, repeat). [causes massive swapfile growth] > The following excerpt from a posting by Erik Kay > <2sgi13$f2t@rosie.next.com> (on a different topic) seems to confirm that > this is possible: > > Actually, this is not the problem. NXMapFile opens the file, does a > > map_fd, then closes the file descriptor. When you map_fd memory, you need > > to vm_dealloc it when you're done with it. Otherwise, the page will > > remain busy. The question is, is this a bug in our docs or in NXClose? > > You can work around this problem by using this instead: > > > > NXCloseMemory(stream, NX_FREEBUFFER); > > This seems to indicate that: > 1) it is possible to allocate pages that remain busy beyond the > life of the application ("feature"? of mach) > 2) this would fit the ever-expanding-swap scenario that I outlined > above, even with a completely bug-free window server and > swap implementation. > 2) the problem is with mis-behaving applications (assuming you buy > the explanation that point 1. is supposed to be a 'feature'). > This might explain why NeXT doesn't consider it a "bug". > > My NS machine is at home at the moment, otherwise I'd write up some > code to see if the above actually is the problem. > > Comments? Yes, this is exactly what is occuring. Here's the sequence of events: - swap is at 20MB - open up a bunch of (really huge) images, then kill OmniImage - swap is at 40MB - open up a bunch of (really huge) images again - swap is at 60MB (note all that presumably empty space not being reused) At this point I went in and looked at the code, and sure enough we're doing an NXMapFile() followed by an NXClose(). I switched this over to NXCloseMemory NX_FREEBUFFER, and got the following results: - swap is at 60MB (from before) - open up same bunch of huge images, kill OmniImage - swap is at 80MB - open up same bunch of huge images again - swap is still at 80MB. The space was actually getting reused. - repeat over and over - the swap file doesn't grow. One of the other guys at Omni is doing some work on OmniImage at the moment, but we should have a new release by Monday with this fixed incorporated. --Greg --------------- Greg Titus Omni Development Inc. toon@omnigroup.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Date: 10 Nov 1994 17:18:25 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <39u67h$h09@digifix.digifix.com> References: <BISSELT.94Nov8183657@bonham.gb.swissbank.com> Tim Bissell writes > <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > > >[...]Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > >about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > >Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > >version of User edition. > > Woooweee, who told you this? I think NS Develeoper 3.2 *will* run > on NS 3.3 > I think the problem here is a bad choice of words.. Garance seems to be a sane person from my interaction with him, so thats the only explanation I have for this statement... NS 3.3 is a User upgrade only... if you want to develop software, you need to have 3.2 Developer.. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:53:51 -0800 Message-ID: <39ubqf$h3@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> References: <1994Nov7.173839.287@titan.sfasu.edu> <1994Nov8.203722.17410@il.us.swissbank.com> <39so4h$ok8@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >Do you want NeXT to keep supporting Black Hardware or not? If >Motorola users don't ante up for 3.3, their marketroids can >cheerfully interpret that as meaning y'all want to be stuck with >3.2 forever. Well... it would be motivation for porting Linux.
From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:49:52 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <39vp9g$obj@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> In article <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes: >[ ... ] > This seems to indicate that: >[ ... ] > 2) the problem is with mis-behaving applications (assuming you buy > the explanation that point 1. is supposed to be a 'feature'). > This might explain why NeXT doesn't consider it a "bug". A lot of the swapfile growing problems seem to come with the use of Mathematica. So maybe Mathematica also is a "mis-behaving application" at memory allocation. Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
From: djames@wmaster.isl.com (Dave James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: next to windows port software ??? Date: 11 Nov 1994 08:14:21 GMT Organization: Internet Systems Ltd Message-ID: <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> hi all we want to use Next as our development environment and port stuff out to Windows and OS/2 anyone know how to do this?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 21:00:46 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil > Secondly, other UNIX computers do not freeze up and die horribly when they > run out of VM. Our Sparc2 says "out of memory" and kills the process that > made the overflow. Other Unix systems handle running out of swapspace with varying degrees of system failure, but they can hardly be claimed to deal with the situation gracefully. I've done lots of work on Sun SPARC's too, and having a machine sit there and be unable to create any new processes (including things like 'ls', 'df', 'vmstat', 'ps', or even 'kill -9') is not a pretty sight. NEXTSTEP's design with Display PostScript means that the Workspace is generally always wanting more memory when doing almost anything. If it can't get that memory, you lose. You'll usually get the same behavior on other Unix machines (freezing, etc) as soon as you start trying to actually do something with X that requires additional memory, such as creating a new window. [ ... ] > Not it can't. It can put a dynamically growing swapfile on a partition that > you call "swapdisk" and the user is expected to pretend it's doing what > other UNIXes do. That's true as far as it goes. However, NEXTSTEP offers a superset of the functionality of other Unices, as you can get the traditional Unix "swap partition" behavior under NEXTSTEP by setting both the low- and highwater marks for the Mach swapfile to the size of the swap partition to wish to emulate. And let's note the most important point about the virtual memory system of a Unix-like operating system. The solution to swapfile problems is very simple: _PROVIDE_ _ENOUGH_ _SWAPSPACE_ That's all you have to do to completely avoid problems with your virtual memory system. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Medical Image Product Date: 11 Nov 1994 15:50:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3a03sm$fl4@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> In article <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang) writes: > Do you know if there is a product that could help me in > processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. > Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org Bavaria's interpersonal-computing has just released ScanOmatic for the Rayven X-Ray scanners for NEXTSTEP on Intel, Motorola and HP-PA RISC. Would that help? Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 11 Nov 1994 16:54:02 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a07ja$ufp@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <39vp9g$obj@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> In article <39vp9g$obj@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) writes: In article <jlemonCz25Ew.2vr@netcom.com> jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes: >[ ... ] > This seems to indicate that: >[ ... ] > 2) the problem is with mis-behaving applications (assuming you buy > the explanation that point 1. is supposed to be a 'feature'). > This might explain why NeXT doesn't consider it a "bug". A lot of the swapfile growing problems seem to come with the use of Mathematica. So maybe Mathematica also is a "mis-behaving application" at memory allocation. Mathematica maintains a history file so that at any point in a session you can refer to "Out[32]" and get the 32nd output result. Thus, when dealing with sets of large data files, it is likely that the history file will grow very large and exceed the available swap space. While the history file is nice for sequential symbolic work, it is unlikely that you want to refer to a past output (which has not been assigned to a symbol) when working with data in a notebook environment. To get around this, WRI suggested that I include $HistoryLength = 10; (* pick a length, any length *) Unprotect[Out]; $Post = ((Out[$Line - $HistoryLength] =. ; #) &); in my init.m file. You could also execute it in your notebook if you don't mind a few error messages until it runs out of protected outputs. This appears to have fixed the problem on my NeXTstation. However, I only have a week of experience with "the fix" so I'm not sure that there aren't side-effects. ;) Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: next to windows port software ??? Date: 11 Nov 1994 17:45:09 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a0aj5$m87@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> In article <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> djames@wmaster.isl.com (Dave James) writes: > hi all > we want to use Next as our development environment and port stuff out to Windows and OS/2 anyone know how to do this? I realize this doesn't answer the question, but this image came to mind. [programming under NEXTSTEP] As I relax in my sauna, eating tuna sushi and drinking a fine fruity beer, I contemplate my soon-to-be-had massage. Later, feeling totally content, muscles relaxed and free, mind at ease, I drift... [porting to Windows] unnoticed, Bill Gates is about to apply tweezer to the toenail on my left big toe and.... {well, the rest is rather sickening, so I won't continue} -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
From: emoy@athena.mit.edu (Eva Moy) Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.os.os2.programmer.oop,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl,fj.comp.oops,mit.lcs.announce,mit.lcs.misc,mit.eecs.discuss Subject: We need your help -- a Sentry 3000 scanner (by NCS) or OOP people near MIT Date: 11 Nov 1994 19:48:38 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3a0hqm$ere@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sorry for sending this mail to so many groups, but we have somewhat of an emergency here. "We" are the Course Evaluation Guide, a student group at MIT (Cambridge, MA). We take students' end-of-term survey forms and bubble forms, process them, and print a 200+ page book. We are about one week from deadline, and we need help soon! Here's the problem: We bought a new bubble form scanning machine (the OpScan 5, made by National Computer Systems) which is supposed to be compatible with the old one we had (Sentry 3000, by NCS). The standard NCS scanner software can deal with both systems, but we have custom-written software which we just found out is not robust enough to just go in and change a few of the parameters. What we need: - Somebody in the New England area to lend us a Sentry 3000 for a few days. We will drive there and bring it back. - An object-oriented C programmer in the MIT area who is willing to help us find a solution to this problem. This will probably require very short-term, intense programming. We can pay this person, but probably not nearly as much as you would get in the Real World. - Any other suggestions... Please reply soon. Eva Moy emoy@mit.edu (617)225-6629
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) Subject: NextStep Database Options Message-ID: <rburnsCz4Brw.5ow@netcom.com> Keywords: database sql Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:35:56 GMT I have a need to find an easy to use database for a group of NextStep users. These folks aren't hackers(they are actually a group of librarians and archivists). The big unusual need that we will have is the ability to use/store database tables on Sybase.
From: Harald Katz <100015.3442@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IMPORT/EXPORT Next Adrressbook Date: 11 Nov 1994 17:15:44 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service Message-ID: <3a08s0$5u5$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Hi, is there a utility availbale, where I can Imprt/export form the NeXT Adressbook. (Comma delimited or something else)????? thanks. Harald Katz -- Harald Katz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: WANTED: Futura Font Message-ID: <1994Nov10.215356.17857@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 21:53:56 GMT Would someone kindly direct me to a source that sells the Futura font? I need it a.s.a.p. thanks. Brad -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tiffs in Webster.app--> where? Date: 11 Nov 1994 20:51:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3a0lgm$p1a@agate.berkeley.edu> I've opened the tiffs from Webster.app using Preview several years ago but have forgotten where they're located? I can't find it anymore, could anyone direct me to the right directory please? Thanks, Greg -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg C. Foliente gregf@nature.berkeley.edu FPL, UC-Berkeley (NeXTMail) gregf@fpl91.berkeley.edu 1301 South 46th St, Richmond, CA 94804 phone: (510) 215-4282 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Date: 11 Nov 1994 05:43:55 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <39v0ar$dsn@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <39u67h$h09@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > Tim Bissell writes > > <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > > > [...] Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > > > about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > > > Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > > > version of User edition. > > > > Woooweee, who told you this? I think NS Develeoper 3.2 *will* run > > on NS 3.3 > > > I think the problem here is a bad choice of words.. Garance seems > to be a sane person from my interaction with him, so thats the only > explanation I have for this statement... Now wait a minute. What are these rumours that I seem sane? You're going to lose all your crediability with statements like that... > NS 3.3 is a User upgrade only... if you want to develop > software, you need to have 3.2 Developer.. My statement, while it has indeed confused many, was correct. It could have been worded better. Eg: ** Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care ** about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running ** [the developer-stuff release of] NS-3.2. ** Earlier versions [ie, those *before* NS-3.2] of NeXTSTEP ** Developer will not work with NS-3.3 version of User edition. The only reason I mentioned any of this is that several people have talked in other threads about upgrading from NS-3.0 to NS-3.3. The price for that seems reasonable, but the caveat is that you can not use NS-3.0 developer with NS-3.3 user. Sorry for the confusion. People can now return to the debate on my sanity... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior -- and the console log Message-ID: <Nov11.211647.29993@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 21:16:47 GMT References: <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > In article <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > > > >Mr. Tevanian (sp?) at NeXT posted a long article in which he explained ... > > Secondly, other UNIX computers do not freeze up and die horribly when > they run out of VM. Our Sparc2 says "out of memory" and kills the > process that made the overflow. You can recover from this situation: on > NEXTSTEP, your only recovery is a power cycle, which means of course > that you can lose data. Wait a second. Something weird is going on here, because I *regularly* (say, once every few days) fill the hard drive due to swap file expansion because I am running with practically no space left (only about 8MB currently -- pathetic, I know :-)). My comments are based on plenty of empirical observation of what happens. When VM fills up, Workspace indicates "NO SPACE available on hard disk" in bold white letters, and what happens? Well, "out of VM" errors start appearing in /tmp/console.log for every failed pageout. Then I kill a few processes and free up some space if necessary. The machine certainly does not freeze up, and definitely does not crash. Sure, to get the space back I must reboot, but I do have the option of cleaning out some deadwood and saving my files, contrary to your implication. I'm running v.3.1 on Black hardware, if this makes a difference. Perhaps the real problem with the way the system handles "out of VM" is that 1) /usr/adm/messages *and* /tmp/console.log both fill with 2-line "out of VM" error messages, apparently for every page out that fails. If you went way over the top with memory allocation, and the program keeps requesting more memory, just the size of the console log can become a problem (I have seen it up to 1MB and more). 2) Sometimes writing to the console log is glacially slow, and seems to take priority over all other tasks. This can give the appearance the system has locked up, but it hasn't. In fact, a quick way to free up space if you have run out due to swapping is often to check the size of /tmp/console.log and /usr/adm/messages. If they are ridiculous, do a "cat > /tmp/console.log" and "cat > /usr/adm/messages" and then a ^D to end the file and resize them to 0 (you probably need to be root to do this). I would recommend a change that, I suspect, would make the situation much more livable: some sort of intelligent way of writing the "out of VM" messages to the console that would not result in the redundant hundreds or thousands of duplicated messages to both log files. The current message does not provide any unique information about the failure of each page anyway (i.e. it is completely generic), so why bother repeating it over-and-over? One and a "last message repeated X times" would be sufficient. Of course, I have no idea how feasible this is, but it would certainly make a difference, and be of more practical use than a simple warning from the Workspace when space gets low (sheesh, it would be continually warning with the state of my system right now :-)), because the system would not get as sluggish when writing large numbers of messages to the console. Naturally, this is all IMHO, and it is only based on my limited understanding and observations. Am I totally loony about the significance of the logs? What have other people observed? > > NS 3.3 addresses this by having the Workspace Manager wanr you when your > disk usage falls below 10M free, and 2M free. A lousy hack, but worlds > better than before. ... -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: khader@vnet.net (R. D. Khader) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: IB died with NXReadOnlyString? Date: 11 Nov 1994 15:30:43 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <3a02n4$d8r@ralph.vnet.net>
From: schulz@biw.cube.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS-3.3 does not work with NS-Developer 3.2? Date: 10 Nov 94 09:47:13 Organization: biw Distribution: fj Message-ID: <schulz.94Nov1094713@gecko03> References: <39csgd$351@usenet.rpi.edu> <Cyqw67.tK@nexus.ping.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi the developpr of 3.2 works fine with the 3.3 PR2! --- Kay Schulz schulz@biw.cube.de Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks! --- Grady Booch ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Paradox or Dbase like app on NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1994Nov11.202204.1630@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 20:22:04 GMT Is there a user database that is relational for NEXTSTEP. It does not need to have graphics capabilities. Query by Example and scripting would be nice. THanks WEs -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: UNIX/NEXTSTEP Paging Software? Date: 11 Nov 1994 23:17:17 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3a0u1t$ba4@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1994Nov9.175217.28877@il.us.swissbank.com> penny@il.us.swissbank.com (Penny Shaw) writes: >Looking to evaluate UNIX or NEXTSTEP paging software. Software must >support multi-user paging, paging service file (or equivalent), provide >status information, support multiple geographic locations, have a queue >and perform retries when failure occurs, and be supported. >Any recommendations are appreciated. >Thanks, >Penny One source is Motorola's free publication called "Thrid Party Referral Guide to Aplha and Data Paging". It lists lots of commercial and PD software. They can be reached at 407.364.3160 or 800.542.7882 heikki ketola
From: gary@cmn14.Stanford.EDU (Gary Scavone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Latex2e? Date: 12 Nov 1994 00:21:55 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3a11r3$iek@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: Latex Does anyone know if Latex, version 2e, has been compiled for NeXT Hardware yet and if so, where can I get it? We have version 2.09 already. Thanks. Gary Scavone Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Mouse: PS/2 > Serial Message-ID: <Cz4rxq.G0t@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:24:55 GMT My motherboard and mouse can be configured either way. Just got the cabling to try PS/2. Wow! Major improvement in smoothness and control. Can't say whether this is due to hardware or NS3.2 driver design. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 12 Nov 1994 07:26:06 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a1qme$6vu@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: an excellent summary of NeXT's swapfile behavior, which should probably be used as the FAQ, complete with the reminder: > ... This is apparently the behavior everyone sees and complains > about. The rate at which it happens seems to depend very sharply > on the available memory and on the initial swapfile size: people > with 8 MB and a 16 MB swapfile seem to wind up with a 100 MB > swapfile within a week, while 24/40 seems to result in behavior > that departs from the Tevanian Theory only on a scale of many > months. Cliff Matthew (of ARDI fame) actually wrote a short C > program that manifested this serious bug in a raw form: he could > eat up 50 MB of swapfile in less than a minute, and never have > it freed for the use of other programs. Given the work that Cliff put into coming up with this program, one would like to think that NeXT would devote time into solving this long-standing irritation. I wonder how many places would be willing to buy a NeXTSTEP 3.3 upgrade *if* it just addresses this problem. Cliff came up with a program to reproduce the problem, which should have made it a lot easier to pin down. It would be welcome news indeed if it turns out that a fix for this problem is one of the: "more than 1,000 enhancements have been made to NEXTSTEP to address critical deployment issues for enterprise-wide client/server applications. NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 includes enhancements in the areas of interoperability, scalability and ease of use." -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: 3270 Emulation In-Reply-To: dan@jughead.opensource.com's message of 10 Nov 1994 15:29:16 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Nov12082030@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <Cz0vp3.8Kr@cunews.carleton.ca> <39te8c$q6a@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 16:20:30 GMT There's also /usr/ucb/tn3270 on every NeXTSTEP OS -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Latex2e? Message-ID: <1994Nov12.212532.22044@galois.mit.edu> Keywords: Latex Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <3a11r3$iek@nntp.stanford.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 94 21:25:32 GMT In article <3a11r3$iek@nntp.stanford.edu>, Gary Scavone <gary@cmn14.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >Does anyone know if Latex, version 2e, has been compiled for NeXT Hardware >yet and if so, where can I get it? We have version 2.09 already. Thanks. > >Gary Scavone >Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics >Stanford University I am responding to the net because I have seen a couple of people ask about Latex2e. Latex2e is simply a format file that is loaded tex. You can get the source from any of the CTAN archives, and build it yourself using tex. The installation instructions are easy to follow. Now, you ask, where are the CTAN archives? Here is a README from one of the sites ----------------------------------------------------------------- In order to reduce network load, it is recommended that you use the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network (CTAN) host which is located in the closest network proximity to your site. Alternatively, you may wish to obtain a copy of the CTAN via CD-ROM (see help/CTAN.cdrom for details). Known partial mirrors of the CTAN reside on (alphabetically): ftp.adfa.oz.au (Australia) /pub/tex/ctan ftp.germany.eu.net (Deutschland) /pub/packages/TeX ftp.muni.cz (The Czech Republic) /pub/tex/CTAN ftp.cs.ruu.nl (The Netherlands) /pub/tex-archive ftp.uu.net (Virginia, USA) /pub/text-processing/TeX nic.switch.ch (Switzerland) /mirror/tex Known mirrors of the CTAN reside on (alphabetically): dongpo.math.ncu.edu.tw (Taiwan) /tex-archive ftp.center.osaka-u.ac.jp (Japan) /CTAN ftp.ccu.edu.tw (Taiwan) /pub/tex ftp.cs.rmit.edu.au (Australia) /tex-archive ftp.duke.edu (North Carolina, USA) /tex-archive ftp.gwdg.de (Deutschland) /pub/dante ftp.jussieu.fr (France) /pub4/TeX/CTAN ftp.loria.fr (France) /pub/unix/tex/ctan ftp.mpi-sb.mpg.de (Deutschland) /pub4/tex/mirror/ftp.dante.de ftp.riken.go.jp (Japan) /pub/tex-archive ftp.uni-bielefeld.de (Deutschland) /pub/tex ftp.uni-stuttgart.de (Deutschland) /tex-archive (/pub/tex) ftpserver.nus.sg (Singapore) /pub/zi/TeX kadri.ut.ee (Estonia) /pub/tex src.doc.ic.ac.uk (England) /packages/tex/uk-tex sunsite.unc.edu (North Carolina, USA) /pub/packages/TeX wuarchive.wustl.edu (Missouri, USA) /packages/TeX Please send updates to this list to <CTAN-Mgr@SHSU.edu>. The participating hosts in the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network are: ftp.dante.de (Deutschland) -- anonymous ftp /tex-archive (/pub/tex /pub/archive) -- gopher on node sun.dante.de -- e-mail via ftpmail@dante.de -- Administrator: <ftpmaint@dante.de> ftp.shsu.edu (Texas, USA) -- anonymous ftp and gopher /tex-archive (/pub/tex /pub/archive) -- NFS mountable from ftp.SHSU.edu:/pub/ftp/tex-archive -- e-mail via ftpmail@ftp.SHSU.edu -- World Wide Web access on www.SHSU.edu -- Administrator: <CTAN-Mgr@SHSU.edu> ftp.tex.ac.uk (England) -- anonymous ftp /tex-archive (/pub/tex /pub/archive) -- gopher on node gopher.tex.ac.uk -- NFS mountable from nfs.tex.ac.uk:/public/ctan/tex-archive -- World Wide Web access on www.tex.ac.uk -- Administrator: <ctan-uk@tex.ac.uk> -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <UK05899@UKCC.UKY.EDU> Message-ID: <199411121919.LAA19808@netcomsv.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 94 14:19:36 EST From: Chris Etesse <UK05899@UKCC.uky.edu> Subject: Disabling 'Starting YP Services' on boot from 3.2-Black How can I force my station to not start YP Services on boot. I'm running stand alone and so therefore it hangs while trying to start the YP Services. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance, Chris Etesse Zip, Zap, Zoooom!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Groupware Calendar Organization: P & L Systems References: <39t96i$e8@relay2.oleane.net> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 22:05:20 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov12.220520.8293@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <39t96i$e8@relay2.oleane.net> dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) writes: > > > We are looking for a shared calendar under NS. > > Please e-mail if you have something interesting. PencilMeIn looks good, and works well as a group calendar (we have most of our customers using it that way, in fact). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: carlson@primenet.com (Don Carlson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: next to windows port software ??? Date: 13 Nov 1994 03:55:15 GMT Organization: Carlson Consulting, Inc. Message-ID: <3a42n3$j7k@news.primenet.com> References: <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> <3a0aj5$m87@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <3a0aj5$m87@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, pcu@umich.edu says: > >In article <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> djames@wmaster.isl.com (Dave James) >writes: >> hi all >> we want to use Next as our development environment and port stuff out >to Windows and OS/2 anyone know how to do this? I'm not sure, except to get a couple of really good Windows/OS/2 programmers together who know what to do on the other platforms what you did in NextStep. Theoretically, there should be a way to write a program to do what you want; that would be something really valuable. From what I hear, Windows under the surface is a piece of *crap* in that there is no uniform system of coordinates; supposedly coordinate sytems sprawl in all directions throughout the program and things are just sewn together in a haphazard way (this is just from heresay from some excellent programmers). What you're hoping for *has* to be doable, but it might take an army of expert programmers. I hope someone does it. Don carlson@primenet.com
From: carlson@primenet.com (Don Carlson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ** NextStep vs. C++ Comparison? ** Date: 13 Nov 1994 04:09:24 GMT Organization: Carlson Consulting, Inc. Message-ID: <3a43hk$j7k@news.primenet.com> I'm aware of the great reviews that NextStep gets. How does it compare with C++ and has anyone used it to prototype programs to later be written on other platforms? I'm currently learning C++ , but I hear that one can write programs 6 to 10 times faster in NextStep. Is it worth it? Maybe I should be more specific. Is it worth it, if you want to develop something for Windows? Is it a viable means to an end? Has anyone had any experience with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Don carlson@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: Virtspace/Darkforest for NSFIP3.2 Message-ID: <Cz6qBD.Jq@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <1994Nov7.004117.1445@kurt.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 02:45:12 GMT In article <1994Nov7.004117.1445@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > In article <1994Nov2.173348.5729@fnbc.com> dsmith@ldnrid48 (Doug Smith) writes: > > Dear all, > > > > Does anyone know of an ftp site that has Intel versions of both these > > applications. > Since I didn't see Garrett reply to this, I thought I would. VirtSpace is available for NeXT, Intel and HP-PA from NYRO Technix, Inc. or through your favorite reseller (like OpenSource). Dealer, educational, previous-owner upgrades and site licenses available. OpenSource is available at 800-TRY-OPEN I believe or you can reach us directly at: NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 800 664-NYRO (6976) 415 664-1170 voice 415 664-5530 fax NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm), On-Vacation(tm), READIT-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 13 Nov 1994 05:56:00 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3a49pg$n1c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> <39smev$nt3@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >In article <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> marty@sw.stratus.com > (Marty Frongillo) writes: >>I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. >You can't. At least, not legally. It's a licensed commercial >product. >You may be able to find some not-quite-clones out there--but if >you want the real thing, you'd need to pay. (And no, I don't >know who, if anyone, is currently selling a NEXTSTEP-compatible >version.) Our ksh 88i source from AT&T compiled very painlessly on NS 3.2. (amazingly enough) Our campus has a ksh source license that we purchase from AT&T. -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: saldroub@mason1.gmu.edu (Samer S Al-Droubi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sccs ? Date: 13 Nov 1994 07:36:02 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3a4fl2$4sl@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for sccs (source code control system) for nextstep. Does any one know of a vendor for sccs for nextstep. If you any info about this please reply. Sam Al-Droubi saldroub@mason1.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@toppoint.de (Manfred R hr) Subject: Fontbrowser-Help Message-ID: <Cz7DLx.Lu@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Rphr) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 11:08:21 GMT Hello, The Problem: Having more than 100 fonts installed, I have no overview, whether after the name hides a serif- or a sans- or a script-font. There should be the possibility from the system to install also different folders which also could be opened in the font-browser. Is there anybody who works at this problem? I know about a tool called font-case, but here the presorted fonts into folders also only appear in the fontbrowser as single files and the problem is the same. I have to install, deinstall and install again.... Further an app for creating and changing fonts is a great need, or a fontviewer shows uninstalled fonts!! Manfred --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * * NeXT Club Schwerte - next-club-schwerte@jwd.ping.de *
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sccs ? Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 11:48:14 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8ilYBCq00iUxQ1U7pm@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3a4fl2$4sl@portal.gmu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Nov-94 sccs ? by Samer S Al-Droubi@mason1 > I am looking for sccs (source code control system) for nextstep. Does > any one know of a vendor for sccs for nextstep. If you any info > about this please reply. SCCS is Sun's proprietary product. NEXTSTEP ships with RCS, which is an upwards-compatible and freely available replacement from the Free Software Foundation (although one may wish to haunt prep.ai.mit.edu for a newer version of RCS and diff). Also, I believe that there are some commercial products available for NEXTSTEP with more sophisticated interfaces, support, and so on. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: next to windows port software ??? Date: 13 Nov 1994 19:48:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a5qhr$s4v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3a42n3$j7k@news.primenet.com> In article <39v94t$8u4@wmaster.isl.com> djames@wmaster.isl.com (Dave James) writes: > hi all > we want to use Next as our development environment and port stuff out to Windows and OS/2 anyone know how to do this? > I think the problem you'll have is that much of NS' advantage is captured in its object kits which implement much of the functionality that typical apps need. So one ends up writing less custom code thus accelerating development. So you'd need to find Windows or OS/2 libraries that implement similar functionality and that's probably difficult to do, especially because the API will be totally different. The UI-level code would be completely different, so the core code might be about all you'd get to port. And you'd need to write that in C++ unless you use Christopher Lozinski's Objective-C extensions to Borland's Windows C compiler. It seems like the best you might be able to hope for is being able to develop the app under NS relatively quickly, then implement the same UI using Windows or OS/2 window builders, rewrite the controller code (the UI-core glue) using Windows or OS/2 API's, and then port the core code. This doesn't sound like an approach that would save any time to me. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 PR2 Motorola panics Date: 13 Nov 1994 20:06:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a5rkg$sd7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> A couple of weeks ago, I posted about apparently random crashing of a DBKit app. I was told that 3.3 had fixed some DBKit memory management bugs. Not being part of the 3.3 beta program, I asked NeXT whether I could take a look at 3.3 PR2 to see whether the DBKit fixes solved my crashing problem. NeXT responded positively and loaned me a 3.3 PR2 CD-ROM with the caveat that the prerelease program had ended and that no support would be available. I accepted these terms as more than fair. After work on Friday, I upgraded to 3.3 PR2 as I've done many times since 3.0 PR1. However, this time something went wrong :-( Under 3.3 PR2, my system panics within 5 minutes of booting. This has happened 4 times in succession. I tried to figure out the cause by eliminating all local additions to rc.local, by disabling my fax modem and thus any initializations that NXFax might do upon booting, by logging in as "console" and thus not using the window server, etc., but none of this solved the problem. I was able to boot to single-user mode without a panic, so I replaced the 3.3 kernel with the 3.2 version. That solved the panic problem, but now I'm running a 3.3 User system with a 3.2 kernel which doesn't seem good. In fact, if I use my customized rc.local (start up Sybase, start up my UPS daemon, dial up my mail provider, start my printer inactivity daemon, etc.), booting doesn't complete because the window server port cannot be found. I really can't trust this system until I receive the 3.3 release after 15 December, and I don't believe I can downgrade to 3.2 easily. I'm not confident that the 3.3 upgrade will solve the problem, either. I'd really like to avoid a time-consuming and error-prone (I'll certainly miss installing some of my customizations) builddisk. Has anyone else using 3.3 PR2 Motorola experienced system panics, and if so, is there a fix? --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 13 Nov 1994 18:59:29 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3a5nmh$jbo@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > >Other Unix systems handle running out of swapspace with varying degrees >of system failure, but they can hardly be claimed to deal with the >situation gracefully. I've done lots of work on Sun SPARC's too, and >having a machine sit there and be unable to create any new processes >(including things like 'ls', 'df', 'vmstat', 'ps', or even 'kill -9') is >not a pretty sight. I'd rather take a small % chance of "ls" and "df" failing with a large % chance of being able to shut down cleanly (hey, just quit emacs) than have my system freeze dead requiring a power cycle. >> Not it can't. It can put a dynamically growing swapfile on a partition that >> you call "swapdisk" and the user is expected to pretend it's doing what >> other UNIXes do. > >That's true as far as it goes. However, NEXTSTEP offers a superset of >the functionality of other Unices, as you can get the traditional Unix >"swap partition" behavior under NEXTSTEP by setting both the low- and >highwater marks for the Mach swapfile to the size of the swap partition >to wish to emulate. The point was that the original poster said that NEXTSTEP could swap on a raw partition. My point was that it can't, though you can pretend (and make all the swooshing sounds that you want, as well). Especially since the original poster was going on about how people forget and warp the facts. As as aside, there's also a question of performance in swapping through the filesystem, or swapping to a raw partition. Read that carefully before commenting. >And let's note the most important point about the virtual memory system >of a Unix-like operating system. The solution to swapfile problems is >very simple: > > _PROVIDE_ _ENOUGH_ _SWAPSPACE_ > >That's all you have to do to completely avoid problems with your virtual >memory system. Question: how much is enough swapspace? Answer: oo. The only way that you know you no longer have enough swapspace is when your system hangs because you just ran out. Otherwise, you have enough. NeXT did a good thing by having warnings when your disk fills up. It's by no means what I would consider a final and satisfactory solution though. THIS IS THE POINT. - db -- Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!" Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior -- and the console log Date: 13 Nov 1994 19:05:27 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3a5o1n$ju9@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <Nov11.211647.29993@acs.ucalgary.ca> In article <Nov11.211647.29993@acs.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca writes: >In article <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy >BROCKBANK) writes: >> In article <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua >W. Burton) writes: >> > >> >Mr. Tevanian (sp?) at NeXT posted a long article in which he explained > >... >> >> Secondly, other UNIX computers do not freeze up and die horribly when >> they run out of VM. Our Sparc2 says "out of memory" and kills the > >plenty of empirical observation of what happens. When VM fills up, >Workspace indicates "NO SPACE available on hard disk" in bold white >letters, and what happens? Well, "out of VM" errors start appearing in >/tmp/console.log for every failed pageout. Then I kill a few processes >and free up some space if necessary. The machine certainly does not >freeze up, and definitely does not crash. Sure, to get the space back I It probably depends on what processes are on the losing end of the memory allocation battle. Our last experiences (on Intel hardware) with running out of swap have resulted in lockup. I don't claim that it's different for you. >writing to the console log is glacially slow, and seems to take priority >over all other tasks. This can give the appearance the system has locked >up, but it hasn't. In fact, a quick way to free up space if you have run When the spinning cursor stops spinning, and you move the mouse and nothing happens (ie. the cursor stays put) you're in the middle of lockup. On a totally different subject: I've still been unable to get our systems to boot with a sysadmin determined number of buffers. They still choose their own numbers. Perhaps this has something to do with the version of the ROM. I dunno, but since 3.1, or 3.2, changing nbu=xxx has no longer worked. - db -- Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!" Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 17:47:09 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sildRh600iUxQ43GEj@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3a5nmh$jbo@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil > I'd rather take a small % chance of "ls" and "df" failing with a > large % chance of being able to shut down cleanly (hey, just quit > emacs) than have my system freeze dead requiring a power cycle. YMMV, but I haven't had my system freeze dead when it ran out of VM. Then again, I haven't had my system run out of VM/swapspace in almost a year.... [ ... ] > As as aside, there's also a question of performance in swapping > through the filesystem, or swapping to a raw partition. Read that > carefully before commenting. Apparently, there isn't a significant difference in performance between the two for Mach. Perhaps this is because Mach caches filesystem information about the swapfile pretty well and only changes the swapfile size in fairly large increments. > Question: how much is enough swapspace? > > Answer: oo. That's not a very hard question. Try benchmarking the swapfile sizes of the machines in question for a while (a week or so), and you can get a very good idea of how much swapspace is needed. For most situations, I'd imagine that 100MB would be more than enough. > The only way that you know you no longer have enough swapspace is when > your system hangs because you just ran out. Otherwise, you have enough. Any machine which is important to be kept running should be able to swap over NFS to a zero-length auxillary swapfile kept on another drive when it's normal swapdrive gets filled (using /etc/swaptab). Of course, this solution requires competent systems administration and the presence of available drive space on the local network. Sites lacking either of the above need to consider the tradeoffs between the costs of a crucial machine going down and the costs of preventing such downtime by hiring good adminstrators and/or purchasing more drive space. > NeXT did a good thing by having warnings when your disk fills up. It's > by no means what I would consider a final and satisfactory solution > though. THIS IS THE POINT. Well, I'll agree with you that the warnings are a good thing. However, nothing you've said contradicts the point that not having enough swapspace results in systems which are not stable (regardless of whether one is running NEXTSTEP, SunOS, HP/UX, or what have you). There is no "satisfactory solution" to running out of VM. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted FTP/NEWS for NS3.2 Date: 14 Nov 1994 00:05:05 GMT Organization: String to put in the Organization Header Message-ID: <3a69jh$c8v@nova.voicenet.com> Are there any graphical NEWS readers and/or FTP programs for NSFIP 3.2? Thanks, Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Font Collection Recommendations Message-ID: <Cz8Fxp.2tu@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 00:54:08 GMT I know little about fonts, but am interested in expanding beyond just the standard NeXT set. Can anyone recommend a vendor? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: ramesh@merlion.singnet.com.sg (tinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.0 compressed files in NS 2.2 enviroment Date: 13 Nov 1994 15:50:22 +0800 Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Message-ID: <3a4gfu$gji@merlion.singnet.com.sg>
From: aci_inc@news.delphi.com (ACI_INC@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sccs ? Date: 14 Nov 1994 02:06:12 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <3a6gmk$eka@news-feed.delphi.com> References: <3a4fl2$4sl@portal.gmu.edu> saldroub@mason1.gmu.edu (Samer S Al-Droubi) writes: >I am looking for sccs (source code control system) for nextstep. Does >any one know of a vendor for sccs for nextstep. If you any info >about this please reply. >Sam Al-Droubi >saldroub@mason1.gmu.edu I am interested in the same information. Please post on the net, or send me email as well. Karlheinz aci_inc@delphi.com
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior -- and the console log Date: 14 Nov 1994 01:53:16 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3a6fuc$69m@network.ucsd.edu> References: <3a5o1n$ju9@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: : In article <Nov11.211647.29993@acs.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca writes: : >In article <39tdvg$q01@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy : >BROCKBANK) writes: : >> In article <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua : >W. Burton) writes: : >> > : >> >Mr. Tevanian (sp?) at NeXT posted a long article in which he explained : > : >... : >> : >> Secondly, other UNIX computers do not freeze up and die horribly when : >> they run out of VM. Our Sparc2 says "out of memory" and kills the : > : >plenty of empirical observation of what happens. When VM fills up, : >Workspace indicates "NO SPACE available on hard disk" in bold white : >letters, and what happens? Well, "out of VM" errors start appearing in : >/tmp/console.log for every failed pageout. Then I kill a few processes : >and free up some space if necessary. The machine certainly does not : >freeze up, and definitely does not crash. Sure, to get the space back I : It probably depends on what processes are on the losing end of the : memory allocation battle. Our last experiences (on Intel hardware) with : running out of swap have resulted in lockup. As a hack, it would be nice if perhaps root and daemon processes (say besides Windowserver) were reserved a few megs of swap not available to users. In some unixes with fixed size process tables the same is true, you can fill up all the slots available for user processes, and still have a few left for critical daemons to prevent massive crashing. -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley) Subject: Good NeXT ftp sites Message-ID: <Cz8vvA.Kp6@indirect.com> Sender: usenet@indirect.com (System Operator) Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 06:40:21 GMT I am looking for a good ftp site for Next "stuff" I found one at a ...orst.edu site, but there were a lot of *.gz files, and I couldn't find a "gunzip" for Next there. Can anyone suggest a location where I could find gunzip, kermit, and some other files for NeXT? Thanks a ton! -- Rational Alternative Digital Cyberzine: Finger cyber@indirect.com for more info
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The latest version of am??? Date: 9 Nov 1994 10:54:16 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <39q9oo$18i@machthenext.dannug.dk> Hi, Can anyone point me to a ftp site, where I can pick up the latest version of am, the answering machine software for Zyxel modems??? I heard that the latest version should be able to work together with NXFAX, thus my interest, anyone that can confirm that??? Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: trunz@inf.ethz.ch (Paul Martin Trunz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ** NEXTSTEP vs. C++ Comparison? ** Date: 14 Nov 1994 11:11:26 +0100 Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Message-ID: <3a7d4e$6i2@brain11.inf.ethz.ch> References: <3a43hk$j7k@news.primenet.com> In article <3a43hk$j7k@news.primenet.com>, Don Carlson <carlson@primenet.com> wrote: >I'm aware of the great reviews that NextStep gets. How does it compare >with C++ and has anyone used it to prototype programs to later be written >on other platforms? I'm currently learning C++ , but I hear that Well, this is not a very fair comparison. If you want to compare to C++ you should compare to Objective-C, the language on which NEXTSTEP is based. This comparison is a matter of taste, however I favor Objective-C because of the increased flexibility. To compare to NEXTSTEP you should take an operating system and the best development environment available for it. NEXTSTEP wins hands down compared to all the other developments I have seen on my SUN or the PC. This applies for general programs, for special kinds of programs there may be better environments which could be palettized into NEXTSTEP. In any case I do not know any system that is a greater pleasure to work with than NEXTSTEP. Greetings Patru
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: PD PPP implementation Date: 14 Nov 1994 11:22:01 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <3a7h8p$iu@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I'm looking for a public domain implementation of PPP for an Intel NS machine. So far I have found plenty of black PD programs (well, its probably the same one many times) but none for my little Intel machine. Hope someone can help, Paul.
From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse: PS/2 > Serial Date: 14 Nov 1994 11:47:43 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3a7iov$k97@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <Cz4rxq.G0t@eskimo.com> In article <Cz4rxq.G0t@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > My motherboard and mouse can be configured either way. Just got the > cabling to try PS/2. Wow! Major improvement in smoothness and > control. I got PS/2 at home and serial at work (both 486/66 PCs). PS/2 is much smoother. > Can't say whether this is due to hardware or NS3.2 driver design. I believe it's both. PS/2 has better hardware, I think, but my serial mouse has also been smoother when I was still using Windows on the same hardware. Even my old Atari ST mouse was smoother than that. Hate to say that, but I also had less trouble with my video driver when using Windows. Besides that, I am a very happy and enthusiastic NS user. -- Willi Pitzeier
From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted FTP/NEWS for NS3.2 Date: 14 Nov 1994 12:49:35 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <3a7mcv$5no@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3a69jh$c8v@nova.voicenet.com> In article <3a69jh$c8v@nova.voicenet.com> dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright) writes: > Are there any graphical NEWS readers and/or FTP programs for NSFIP 3.2? FTP: The newest version of Yftp can be found via ftp on : ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/Apps/Yftp.... --- so long - jolly =================================================================== Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de office : USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 211 06 70 fax : USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 211 06 74 private: USA (no longer availible ) DE (089) 950 57 34 =================================================================== "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." - r.batty ===================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: Good NeXT ftp sites Message-ID: <rbzCz9FzC.EJx@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Cz8vvA.Kp6@indirect.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:54:48 GMT cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley) writes: >I am looking for a good ftp site for Next "stuff" I found one at a >...orst.edu site, but there were a lot of *.gz files, and I couldn't find >a "gunzip" for Next there. Try http://www.stepwise.com/NEXTSTEP_Usenet/FTP_Sites.html for Next ftp sites. gzip/gunzip/gnutar come as a part of NextStep. No need to hunt for them. -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer) Subject: sybtool - how to compile? Message-ID: <1994Nov14.150644.16586@roche.com> Sender: news@roche.com (USENET News System) Organization: Hoffmann-La Roche AG Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:06:44 GMT Hi, did anybody manage to compile sybtool (1.3) under NeXT-black(3.2)? I've tried it yesterday without success. Since I am not a programmer I don't know how to fix it. Could anybody help me out please? Thank you -ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: Problem with SB16 beta and NSfip 3.2 Message-ID: <Cz9JCt.87I@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:07:40 GMT I've got a weird problem using the beta Sound Blaster 16 driver for NSfip 3.2. Here's my setup. NCR 3333, 486DX2 66MHz, VLB/ISA, 32MB INTERFACE DMA IRQ PORT MEM ================================================================== ATI Ultra Pro (VLB) 6 @ 0x100 2048K @ 0x7e00000 1120x832x68x16 PS/2 Mouse 12 Intel EtherExpress 10 16 @ 0x300 RJ-45 connector Adaptec 154X 7 11 4 @ 0x130 Sound Blaster 16 1,5 5 20 @ 0x220 MidiPort: 0x330 Serial Ports 3,4 8 @ 0x3f8 SCSI Tape PS/2 Keyboard 1 6 @ 0x60 101 PC Keyboard IDE Controller 14 8 @ 0x1f0 Floppy Disk Drive 2 6 6 @ 0x3f2 I see the following in NeXTanswers: | Because of a driver kit bug, in NEXTSTEP 3.2, the Sound | Blaster 16 audio adapter does not function correctly in computers | with ISA slots. After booting NEXTSTEP, you may playback or record | 16-bit data, but your first choice sets the mode permanently until | you reboot. This bug will be fixed in a future release of NEXTSTEP. | | Due to MIDI port conflicts (port 0x300 or 0x330), you cannot | use the Sound Blaster 16 audio adapter at the same time that you | use an EtherExpress network adapter (which uses port 0x300) and | also an Adaptec SCSI adapter (which uses port 0x330). If you use | the Sound Blaster 16 adapter, you may use either an EtherExpress | network adapter or an Adaptec SCSI adapter, but not both. Okay! I'm NOT doing any recording; I've gone as far as forcing a sound file to play at boot time (using sndplay in /etc/rc.local). Sometimes playback fails to work after a reboot or power-on. I have to reboot one or more times until sounds start playing again. The combo SB16/Adaptec 1540C-1542C/Intel EtherExpress 16TP works fine. --Felix coco@erika.cb.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: WANTED: Futura Font In-Reply-To: brad@instep.wimsey.com's message of Thu, 10 Nov 1994 21:53:56 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov14102247@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <1994Nov10.215356.17857@instep.wimsey.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 18:22:47 GMT brad writes: brad> Would someone kindly direct me to a source that sells the Futura font? brad> I need it a.s.a.p. Contact info@trilithon.com. They are the Adobe Authorized Reseller for fonts in the NEXTSTEP market. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Thu, 10 Nov 1994 21:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov14103242@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 18:32:42 GMT Charles William Swiger writes: Charles> You'll usually get the same behavior on other Unix machines Charles> (freezing, etc) as soon as you start trying to actually do Charles> something with X that requires additional memory, such as creating Charles> a new window. I _wish_. The X servers we deal with (X11R5 in Solaris 2.3, IRIX 5.2) bails out instantly and _without warning_ when swapspace runs out. Really nasty. The ugly hacks that have to be put in to avoid or capture this aren't 100% effective, either. "X: computerese for 'needs work'." :-) -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Font Collection Recommendations In-Reply-To: salvo@eskimo.com's message of Mon, 14 Nov 1994 00:54:08 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov14103541@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <Cz8Fxp.2tu@eskimo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 18:35:41 GMT Marc Salvatori writes: Marc> I know little about fonts, but am interested in expanding beyond just Marc> the standard NeXT set. Can anyone recommend a vendor? Trilithon Software is the Adobe Authorized Reseller for Adobe Type 1 font programs in the NEXTSTEP market. Contact info@trilithon.com for more information. There are also other vendors out there who sell Type 1 fonts which can be made to work in the NEXTSTEP environment. <<Disclaimer: financial interest, obviously :-) >> -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disabling 'Starting YP Services' on boot from 3.2-Black Date: 13 Nov 1994 07:50:05 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <3a4gfd$1cl@rosie.next.com> References: <199411121919.LAA19808@netcomsv.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.5a In article <199411121919.LAA19808@netcomsv.netcom.com>, Chris Etesse <UK05899@UKCC.uky.edu> wrote: >How can I force my station to not start YP Services on boot. I'm running >stand alone and so therefore it hangs while trying to start the YP Services. >Any help appreciated. Make sure you have YPDOMAIN=-NO- set in /etc/hostconfig. --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963
From: adenison@next.com (Allen Denison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME? Date: 9 Nov 1994 00:27:48 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39p524$tb@rosie.next.com> References: <BISSELT.94Nov8183657@bonham.gb.swissbank.com> In article <BISSELT.94Nov8183657@bonham.gb.swissbank.com> bisselt@bonham.gb.swissbank.com (Tim Bissell) writes: > <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > > >[...]Note that this upgrade is user-edition only. If you care > >about the developer-stuff too then you need to be running NS-3.2. > >Earlier versions of NeXTSTEP Developer will not work with NS-3.3 > >version of User edition. > > Woooweee, who told you this? I think NS Develeoper 3.2 *will* run > on NS 3.3 > > Yes, in fact it's a requirement of NS 3.3 that it does. Allen Denison NeXT SupportLine Supervisor * In this case my opinions and statements do reflect those of the company*
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Date: 10 Nov 1994 22:10:33 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <39u5op$1k5@rosie.next.com> References: <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> In article <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) writes: > However, NeXTIME is based on Interceptor technology, of which I > have heard this said, "if you write a program using Interceptor, > no guarentee is made that it will run on every video platform" > > So it's very possible that in the future it will cease to work on > B&W NeXT hardware. NEXTIME (and the higher level stuff in Interceptor) are smart enough to fall back to the Window Server when they encounter a display format that they don't understand. Of course, performance suffers, but that's better than having the application crash, isn't it? Mike Paquette ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Word Processors (tocs) Date: 14 Nov 1994 17:17:38 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3a863i$8ge@news.bu.edu> I have a medium sized document (roughly amounts to 120 printed pages), and need to generate a table of contents for it. Pages does not seem to be able to do this at the moment. Does 1.5 support this feature, or failing that, what word-processing apps that run under NeXTSTEP have this functionality? I seem to remember WordPerfect actually does do this, but I don't have a copy that runs under white at the moment. I'm somewhat bummed out by the concept of paying to get an upgrade for this, simply for this one stupid feature. Overall I had an interesting day hanging out at a friend's place, where I had intended to simply use his set-up (a PowerMac) to print out my document, only to find him in the middle of his own crises since he tossed his old copy of Word and "upgraded" to Word 6, which on his PowerMac takes about 2 minutes to load and then behaves in a way that reminds me of some of the very first Desktop Publishing programs running on the Apple //gs. Saying this thing is glacial is being kind. Seeing some of the current generation of apps and how they run ona PowerPC chip made me somewhat pacified and sort of hit home just how many things I take for granted under NeXTSTEP and for all of its problems, how many things work really nicely. Comparing HUGE word processors (ok, DOCUEMNT PROCESSORS or whatever you want to call the things) like Pages and FrameMaker (alas, another one I know does TOCs but I lack a white version), to some of the stuff like Word 6, running on the Mac and under Windoze... the NeXTSTEP stuff is an order of magnitude faster then comparable apps on other platforms, which tend to CRAWL. I still find it a little hard to believe just how sluggish some of the release copies of these things are, because the last time i used a lot of this back about 2-3 years ago, it WAS NOT this awful, and it was running on things like 68030's and 386 machines. It makes me wonder what's happened over the near-term past. I get the feeling MicroSoft thinks its just fine that in order to run something like a simple (or complex) word processor you must have a Pentium and 16 megs of RAM under Dos... The so-called "low-end" is dissapearing very fast, if you want reasonable performance for anything you happen to be doing, I'm starting to realize that NeXTSTEP isn't really so much of a "gourmet" OS with really high system requirements. If you want anything to work these days, the Mac and PC world isn't any different. Anyway, this started as a simple question but I went off on a tanget, so I think I'll cross-post to Advocacy to give people something to want about since I already wrote this thing. bbry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,rodion.answers From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Latex2e? In-Reply-To: gary@cmn14.Stanford.EDU's message of 12 Nov 1994 00:21:55 GMT To: gary@cmn14.Stanford.EDU (Gary Scavone) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Nov14203406@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <3a11r3$iek@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 19:34:06 GMT On 12 Nov 1994 00:21:55 GMT, Gary Scavone (GS) wrote: GS> Does anyone know if Latex, version 2e, has been compiled for NeXT Hardware GS> yet and if so, where can I get it? We have version 2.09 already. Thanks. It's on ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex. You start with the `base' subdirectory and proceed to `contrib' and `packages'. LaTeX2e needs not be compiled; you run it through initex and get a new TeX format file that replaces latex.fmt. Other CTAN TeX archive sites are ftp.shsu.edu ftp.dante.de ftp.tex.ac.uk See Goosens, Mittelbach, Samarin: The LaTeX Companion. It ``describes over 150 convenient styles for floats, graphics, tables and much more.'' Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: Don McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Remember WorldSpace? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:24:08 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941114132139.20111B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. On my cube my BackSpace view is WorldSpace (has image (sort of) of earth boucning about in field of passing stars. I'd like to have this on my Intel box too. Anyone know where I can get this? (The view file is not portable.) Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Medical Image Product Date: 14 Nov 1994 18:11:37 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3a898p$25n@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> In article <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang) writes: :Do you know if there is a product that could help me in :processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. : Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org Carl, Below is information on PaperSight from Visus. Perhaps this is an application that will help you manage images. Professional PaperSight Document and Image Management (including X-ray and slide) for the NeXT. Professional PaperSight is also a valuable tool for small and large office automation, desktop publishing, as well as FAX and Scanner Control and Management. Professional PaperSight fully supports many scanners; FAX receipt management and transmission; text and voice annotation; nondestructive markup of images; line draw; whiteout; workgroup functions including workflow control, audit trail, and notification functions; rotate and resize image; and complete NFS compatibility. New "SuperThreading" allows documents to be connected with hypertext links for easy reference. OCR option available using OCR Express. Price $499 $399 - OCR Option Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Visual Understanding Systems, Inc. Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions reflect positively or negatively on me only!
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior --- Compress? Date: 14 Nov 1994 19:36:25 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3a8e7p$eur@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <sildRh600iUxQ43GEj@andrew.cmu.edu> I am wondering if one of the reasons for NS/FIP slower behavior and huge swapfiles (relative to NS/040) may be that NS/FIP ignores the "compress" directive in /etc/swaptab. When I read through the swap file, I can identify tons of strings, and file /private/vm/swapfile tells me it is a data file. If I remember correctly, on fast systems (i.e. Pentium) with slow disks (i.e., SCSI on FIP), swap compression would speed up the system and save space. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Medical Image Product Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:20:43 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a8gqr$2um@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3a898p$25n@potogold.rmii.com> In article <3a898p$25n@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > In article <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl > Hoang) writes: > :Do you know if there is a product that could help me in > :processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. > : Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org The following company has a product for storing and retrieval of ultrasound images on CDROM. ALI Technologies 604-279-5468 marcel_suntanto@ali.bc.ca -- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Medical Image Product Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:21:05 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a8grh$2uo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3a898p$25n@potogold.rmii.com> > In article <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl > Hoang) writes: > :Do you know if there is a product that could help me in > :processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. > : Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org The following company has a product for storing and retrieval of ultrasound images on CDROM. ALI Technologies 604-279-5468 marcel_suntanto@ali.bc.ca -- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:44:34 -0500 Organization: Hughes Applied Information Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <jjuran-1411941444340001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com> References: <39lm7j$h9q@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <39m2ht$8n3@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <39m2ht$8n3@ftp-p.mccaw.com>, andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) wrote: > > So what's the word? Does NeXTTIME support the mono slab? > stuff - if NeXTtime* supported it. Maybe at 2.0. > *officialy known as NEXTIME, but I don't like that. Agreed. Just be glad you're not running NEXTEP. :) Josh =) -- Joshua Juran =) | jjuran@eos.hitc.com NeXTMail | When in doubt, um... Hughes Applied Information Systems |
From: john@delta.success.net (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb -- Images don't load Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:16:02 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <3a8gi2$uh@uuneo.neosoft.com> I am using the current version of OmniWeb and OmniImage. When loading images, it transfers the data, but then it fails to display the images. What am I doing wrong? -John
From: stanny@tdf_ltd.laa.com (Gary Stanny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted a working vt220 emulator package. Date: 14 Nov 1994 21:32:00 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <3a8l0g$6ug$1@heifetz.msen.com> Hi all - Please help us in our software search. We are a small shop that are starting to use white NextStep boxes for a real-time pricing application. We are currently running a small LAN and we need to be able to reach and use the shop's legacy VAX. We need a vt220 terminal emulator that will allow us to rlogin into the vax via ethernet and run tpu & eve (with full keyboard support) while running on a standard Intel box with a normal PC AT 101 key style keyboard. Here is the current status of what I have tried and discovered. NextStep Terminal app - very nice rlogin support but none of the function or insert/delete/home/end/pageup/pagedown keys or numeric keypad keys are supported. I can not even get vt100 mode to work. Stuart - looks promising (even though only vt100 support) except I can only find a 68k black version. TipTop - just for use over a modem. WE-D320 - nicest package I have seen so far. Does support the numeric pad correctly. Kind of supports the insert/delete/home/end/pageup/pagedown keys and just supports function keys F9 - F12 correctly. Also am I correct - does Next not support reading all 101 keys on a PC keyboard correctly? Thanks a bunch cheers gary Gary Stanny Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 stanny@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
From: mtooley@malibu.sfu.ca (Marc Tooley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Date: 14 Nov 1994 22:00:35 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3a8mm3$mmq@seymour.sfu.ca> References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics > AmigaDOS 2.1 (if not 2.04) included a version of CrossDOS. >Activating (mounting) the CrossDOS devices will let your floppy drive >access 720K MS-DOS format floppies -- No special tricks needed, they are >just a different capacity drive to the Amiga (with CrossDOS)... I think he may have been referring to the actual conversion of tiff files to iff. I think I may be able to offer some small portion of advice here. I have found only one program in my vast arzsenal of conversion proggies that I have been collecting over the years is up to the job, and, because I refuse to register many programs on the basis of *mumble mumble* even the one I *did* find, wasn't the latest version, and wasn't able to truly handle tiff files. And, it crops the images as a sort of "crippleware" conceptual *flaw*. HamLabPlus_Demo is the program I used. It's a bit slow, but it'll do the conversion for you quite nicely. Heck, perhaps you should try HamLabPlus, the real thing..? It has been able to handle every format of graphics that I've thrown at it, and it's conversions are excellent--much nicer than wasp's, and wasp can't even handle a quarter of the types that HamLabPlus can.. AAnyhow, ttyl, eh? Marc
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 17:10:32 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gily1MC00iVCM9d6hy@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <BYER.94Nov14103242@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Scott Byer@mv.us.adobe.c > I _wish_. The X servers we deal with (X11R5 in Solaris 2.3, IRIX 5.2) bails > out instantly and _without warning_ when swapspace runs out. Really nasty. > The ugly hacks that have to be put in to avoid or capture this aren't 100% > effective, either. Sounds like Sun made some real improvements from SunOS 4.x & OpenWindows/X11R4 (which I'm more familiar with) to SunOS 5.x/Solaris 2.x & X11R5. Perhaps they thought that their customers would be happier with behavior reminicent of MS-Windows.... > "X: computerese for 'needs work'." :-) "X: Buggy, and designed to remain that way." (You gotta keep those CS grads at MIT busy somehow. ;-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: root@engine.dgcp.doc.ca (Operator) Subject: Problems compiling Listserv: Diagnosis??! Message-ID: <1994Nov14.205927.3411@clark.dgim.doc.ca> Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News) Organization: Communications Canada Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 20:59:27 GMT HI, I am trying to compile a Listserv on a Cube with 3.2 running. Could someone help diagnos a problem? PLEASE. This is the relevant output from running setup: Do you wish to use unproto for compilation [n]? cc -c -g -I/usr/servers/listserv5.5 -I/usr/servers/listserv5.5/src -I/usr/servers/listserv5.5/src -DNeXT -ansi misc.c misc.c:36: warning: could not use precompiled header '/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.p', because: misc.c:36: warning: #ifdef '__STRICT_ANSI__' not defined when precompiled, but now defined: misc.c:36: warning: on the command line .. .. .. defs.h:160: warning: redefinition of macro TRUE /NextDeveloper/Headers/mach/boolean.h:160: warning: is the location of the previous definition defs.h:161: warning: redefinition of macro FALSE /NextDeveloper/Headers/mach/boolean.h:161: warning: is the location of the previous definition *** Exit 1 Stop. /usr/servers/listserv5.5/setup: error(s) during compilation; quitting Any help much appreciated. -- Tyson Macaulay Internet Applications Consultant CDD/DGCP/Industry Canada (613) 9904236 email: root@engine.dgcp.doc.ca
From: makarewy@crl.com (Alex Makarewycz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Objective C symantics, Question! Date: 14 Nov 1994 13:23:17 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <3a8kg5$2b2@crl7.crl.com> The scenario: I have a subclass of Object that contains regular methods and some C functions. i.e.: (Test.h) @interface Test:Object { id object1; int i; } void play(); - doSometing:sender; @end (Test.m) #import "Test.h" @implementation Test void play(); { i++; return; } - doSomething:sender { play() return self; } @end This produces an error because play doesn't see "i" as a variable declared inside it's scope. Why don't variables declared inside a Subclass definition appear as Local variables for C functions, which are also declared inside the Subclass? The variables are Local for all methods declared inside the Subclass, why shouldn't the same hold true for C functions, which are also declared inside the subclass. To correct this problem I need to call play(Test *self) with a pointer to self as an argument. This gets messy because one needs to add "self->" to all "Test class" variable references when inside play. i.e. (Test.h) @interface Test:Object { id object1; int i; } void play(Test *self); - doSometing:sender; @end (Test.m) #import "Test.h" @implementation Test void play(Test *self); { self->i++; return; } - doSomething:sender { play(self) return self; } @end Does anyone know of an easier method of accomplishing this? Thanks - Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Need a SCANNER & software for NS/Intel Message-ID: <thompsonCzAE0s.G0A@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 02:10:03 GMT Anyone who is using a scanner with NS/Intel, please let me know what brand/model, what software you're using with it, approx. how much each of them cost, and any other comments you may have.. Thanks much. I will summarize. Eric thompson@netcom.com
From: garnett@cco.caltech.edu (John W. Garnett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NE2000 ethernet driver for NEXTSTEP? Date: 15 Nov 1994 02:48:23 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3a97hn$im3@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Is there a driver available for NEXTSTEP (for Intel Processors) that supports NE2000-compatible ethernet cards? If so, where can I obtain it? Thanks, John Garnett -- -- John Garnett garnett@cco.caltech.edu garnett@gestalt.austin.tx.us (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III Message-ID: <Cz83Eq.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Keywords: SCSI Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 20:25:38 GMT Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ? I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s instead of the usual 10MB/s. Furthermore, does anyone know about a 2GB or more HD that's Fast-Wide SCSI (=SCSI-III) ? Thanks for your answers. --- Dr. Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd. Av. Davel 18 1004 Lausanne Switzerland Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07 NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: simsong@pleasant.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Making GIF files on a NeXT Date: 15 Nov 1994 00:17:48 GMT Organization: Terranet, Inc., Boston, MA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a8unc$8n8@bighorn.terra.net> Hi. I'm looking for a way to make GIF files on NeXTSTEP. I thought that PixelMagician was the way. Unfortunately, the copy that I had was HostID locked to a machine I just sold. (they didn't get the program, but I don't have the right ethernet address on my system now.) (Pixel Magician is a wonderful program.) I've tried using OmniImage, but it chokes on the 24-bit TIFF files I've got. I've tried sending mail to the folks at OmniGroup, but I don't get an answer. Anybody else have any ideas?
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: next to windows port software ??? Date: 15 Nov 1994 00:54:41 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a90sh$d8u@core.symnet.net> References: <3a5qhr$s4v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> > djames@wmaster.isl.com (Dave James) writes: > >we want to use Next as our development environment and port stuff > out to Windows and OS/2 anyone know how to do this? > > I think Berkeley Productivity Group puts out something like this. It's not native NeXT Development stuff though. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: Drawing Tool for IB Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Message-ID: <CzA95M.CyK@lexmark.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 00:24:57 GMT Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY Before I waste too much time doing this myself, is there a tool to draw lines or shapes and add dynamics (change of color, shape, line width, fill color, etc...) as a palette to IB? I've done a line palette and a storage hopper palette :-), but I'm about to break down and write a more general "Draw.app inside of IB" palette. Has anyone tackled such a beast? Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good NeXT ftp sites Date: 14 Nov 1994 19:57:25 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411150157.AA11731@alleg.EDU> cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley) wrote: I am looking for a good ftp site for Next "stuff" I found one at a ....orst.edu site, but there were a lot of *.gz files, and I couldn't find a "gunzip" for Next there. Can anyone suggest a location where I could find gunzip, kermit, and some other files for NeXT? What version of NS are you using? What architecture? If you are using 3.x you can use gzip to g[un]zip the files, although you may have to change the *.gz to *.z (long story). Best bet is to get Opener.app, go back to the orst site and get it at ftp://ftp santiam.cs.orst.edu/ /software/NeXT/binaries/util/Opener_3.1.3a_MAB.app.tar.Z As far as FTP sites go: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de or 129.187.249.15 [same site] (aka "peanuts" the biggest and best NeXT ftp site, I think) Others I have visited in the last 4 years: santiam.cs.orst.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu sutro.sfsu.edu 36.44.0.103 agate.berkeley.edu cs.ubc.ca eclipse.its.rpi.edu ftp.alleg.edu ftp.funet.fi ftp.iastate.edu ftp.iesd.auc.dk ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de ftp.sterling.com isi.edu jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu rtfm.mit.edu although I have no recollection of many of these sites. ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCzAH62.Kyx@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> <3a8mm3$mmq@seymour.sfu.ca> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 03:18:02 GMT mtooley@malibu.sfu.ca (Marc Tooley) writes: > I think he may have been referring to the actual conversion of tiff >files to iff. I think I may be able to offer some small portion of I recalled that second step after the fact... <G> -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
From: reality@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: setting up a Web daemon? Date: 15 Nov 1994 00:11:35 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> Hi all! Now that I've got the most excellent OmniWeb running on my black NeXT, I'd like to set up my own homepage so other people can check me out. Can anybody point me in the direction of an httpd daemon for the NeXT OS, or any info on how to set one up on my machine? Thanks in advance, Reality -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key - NeXTmail accepted
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? Date: 15 Nov 1994 04:07:15 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a9c5j$aah@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> In article <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: > Now that I've got the most excellent OmniWeb running on my > black NeXT, I'd like to set up my own homepage so other > people can check me out. Can anybody point me in the direction > of an httpd daemon for the NeXT OS, or any info on how to > set one up on my machine? > The NCSA server, httpd, works out of the box. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone know of MBONE software for NeXT? Date: 15 Nov 1994 04:32:07 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a9dk7$5n4@news.iastate.edu> Subject says it all. -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Message-ID: <lagardeCzAn42.8Gz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> <39u5op$1k5@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 05:26:24 GMT In article <39u5op$1k5@rosie.next.com>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@next.com> wrote: >In article <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) writes: >> However, NeXTIME is based on Interceptor technology, of which I >> have heard this said, "if you write a program using Interceptor, >> no guarentee is made that it will run on every video platform" > >NEXTIME (and the higher level stuff in Interceptor) are smart enough to >fall back to the Window Server when they encounter a display format that >they don't understand. Of course, performance suffers, but that's better I've seen Interceptor mentionned here on a couple of occasions, but I've never seen any documentation/description of it. Is this available anywhere? Also, what is going on in the case of the NextDimension and NeXTIME? Is Interceptor involved, is it simply the Window Server, or did NeXT do something special in that case? ----------- lagarde@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (NeXT mail accepted) voice: (619) 939-4852
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Prerelease 2 IP Multicast Header File Patch Message-ID: <CzAprJ.Ly7@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 06:23:43 GMT I found this tucked away inside NeXTAnswers. Its the first real clue I have seen to what new features are tucked away in the bowels of the 3.3 kernel. ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Patches/IPMulticastHeaderPatch_3.3pr2 NextAnswers 1702 and 1703 Mark ======= NEXTSTEP 3.3 Prerelease 2 IP Multicast Header File Patch The file in.h is to be used by NEXTSTEP 3.3 PreRelease 2 developers who are interested in creating IP Multicast applications. IP Multicast was added to NEXTSTEP 3.3PR2, however the header file in.h is needed to use the feature. Copy in.h to /usr/include/bsd/netinet of your 3.3PR2 machine. ======= -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Date: 15 Nov 1994 11:09:26 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3aa4t6$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <lagardeCzAn42.8Gz@netcom.com> Jean Lagarde writes > Also, what is going on in the case of the NextDimension and NeXTIME? > Is Interceptor involved, is it simply the Window Server, or did NeXT > do something special in that case? > > ----------- > lagarde@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (NeXT mail accepted) > voice: (619) 939-4852 Well, I have no clue what they do, but I have a ND and NEXTIME sucks pretty bad, I mean a ColorStation is way better. I am sure there would be a way to do it better, yet who cares about us who spent the extra buck and waited forever for the compressor chip? Stan
From: albion@bnr.ca (Dennis Pejcha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Objective C symantics, Question! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 15 Nov 1994 14:23:38 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <3aag9a$n3s@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3a8kg5$2b2@crl7.crl.com> (Followups to c.s.n.programmer, since this is a programming question) In article <3a8kg5$2b2@crl7.crl.com>, Alex Makarewycz <makarewy@crl.com> wrote: (")The scenario: (") (")I have a subclass of Object that contains regular methods and some C (")functions. [snip] (")This produces an error because play doesn't see "i" as a variable declared (")inside it's scope. (") (")Why don't variables declared inside a Subclass definition appear as (")Local variables for C functions, which are also declared inside the (")Subclass? The variables are Local for all methods declared inside the (")Subclass, why shouldn't the same hold true for C functions, which are (")also declared inside the subclass. When you call a method, the self pointer is passed as an implicit argument to the method, so it knows which object's 'i' to look at. Your play() function is declared as a regular function, so it doesn't know which instance of the class you are refering to (it has no self pointer). Anyways, the OOP school of thought tells you that the internal variables in an object should only be modified by the methods of the object itself, so just turn play() into a method. (")To correct this problem I need to call play(Test *self) with a pointer to (")self as an argument. This gets messy because one needs to add "self->" (")to all "Test class" variable references when inside play. [snip] (")Does anyone know of an easier method of accomplishing this? Here's how I would do it: (Test.h) @interface Test:Object { id object1; int i; } - (void) play; - doSometing:sender; @end (Test.m) #import "Test.h" @implementation Test - (void) play; { i++; return; } - doSomething:sender { [self play]; return self; } @end -Dennis __(__) Moo? (__)__ | Dennis Pejcha, BMath '96 Comp. Sci., U. of Waterloo ( oo / oo ) +---------------------------------------------------- /\_| / |_/\ | http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/dpejcha/ (WWW) Moo! | http://noether.math.uwaterloo.ca/~dpejcha/ (WWW) "Cow-Moo-nication" | dpejcha@uwaterloo.ca OR albion@bnr.ca (email) GCS 3 5(+) B--- C++ D++ E++ G' H-- K- L M-- N++ P+ R US/U UX++++ !V W--- Y+ a- !au b+ d-- e+ f? g+ h(-) j n+ p+ -po+ !r s+:+ t(+) tv u+ v+ w+ !y+
From: andym@hq.af.mil (Andy McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Multicasting and/or CU-SeeMe-like app for NS? Date: 15 Nov 1994 14:38:38 GMT Organization: Air Force Pentagon Communications Agency, Wash D.C. Message-ID: <3aah5e$157@hq.hq.af.mil> I am looking for some app for NS that will allow me to receive video and sound, such as MBONE or multicasts, or from reflectors like CU-SeeMe uses (without multicasting). I know 3.2 doesn't support multicasting; Have any 3.3 apps supporting the new multicast feature been relvealed/released yet? -- Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer andym@hq.af.mil Air Force Pentagon Communications Agency ---NeXTMail accepted and encouraged--- (Opinions expressed are solely those of the author and not the USAF)
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 15 Nov 1994 09:55:45 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net> References: <Cz83Eq.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> JacquesGarbi wrote: : Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ? : I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall : right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III : controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s : instead of the usual 10MB/s. There is no Talus 2940 driver. There will be a 2940 driver in 3.3, although it does not appear to support the 2940W. : Furthermore, does anyone know about a 2GB or more HD that's Fast-Wide SCSI : (=SCSI-III) ? Seagate Barracuda drives. - Jay
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone know of MBONE software for NeXT? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 10:04:30 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <YimAryq00WBO42_ghY@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3a9dk7$5n4@news.iastate.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Nov-94 Anyone know of MBONE softwa.. by sela@iastate.edu > Subject says it all. I believe that you'll either need to get NEXTSTEP 3.3 prerelease or wait until 3.3 is officially released in order to get IP multicast support in the kernel. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: zbeckman@CERF.NET (Zacharias J. Beckman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the purpose of buying 3.3???? Date: 15 Nov 1994 07:49:39 -0800 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <3aalaj$njg@nic.cerf.net> References: <1994Nov7.173839.287@titan.sfasu.edu> <1994Nov8.203722.17410@il.us.swissbank.com> hendryj@mcs.com wrote: : J. Kelly Cunningham writes : > What are the consequences of NOT upgrading? : Excessive junk mail, poor hygeine, the heartbreak of psoriasis, : excommunication, the collapse of Western Civilization, Dan Quayle US : President in '96, and eternal damnation. Release 3.3 has a number of improvements to several applications, including a much improved Mail (it supports MIME now, and a number of other fun features), great improvements to most of the administrative tools, and fixes to some NetInfo problems. Also, I'm under the impression that NeXT's Foundation Kit shared library will be shipped with 3.3. I'm not sure of this, but it stands to reason, since developers can now write applications using the Kit. If this is the case, then I would highly recommend the upgrade! If not, well, then... I suppose I still recommend it, but not quite so whole-heartedly... :-) Zacharias J. Beckman zac@ccsi.canon.com
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone know of MBONE software for NeXT? Date: 15 Nov 1994 16:32:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aanrg$pnf@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <3a9dk7$5n4@news.iastate.edu> I believe MBone requires IP Multicast support which won't be available on NEXTSTEP until 3.3 is released (real soon now). Beyond that, I don't know when MBone applications will be ported to NEXTSTEP. Anyone know if any of the popular MBone applications are currently being ported to NEXTSTEP 3.3? Todd
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener for HP ? urgent.. Date: 15 Nov 1994 20:33:06 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3ab5u2$o1s@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Hi all... well we are preparing some software for the OO-NeXTSTEP conference here at EMBL. Michael Hawley <mike@clark.lcs.mit.edu> told me that someone out here in Netland has a triple FAT version. Does anybody remember who...or has anybody a pointer.. Help highly apreciated. Aloha Tomi P.S> Please reply to georg tuparev. Thanx -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dcjensen@fergus.cfa.org (Daniel C. Jensen) Subject: Mac Emulator Message-ID: <CzBvCv.314@cfa.org> Sender: usenet@cfa.org Organization: Communicating For America Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 21:22:06 GMT Hi. Newbie here. Any Mac emulators around the 'net for true NeXT machines? Demos okay. Let me know. dcjensen@fergus.cfa.org
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 PR2 Motorola panics Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:05:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aapp7$16n@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3a5rkg$sd7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <3a5rkg$sd7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Has anyone else using 3.3 PR2 Motorola experienced system panics, and > if so, is there a fix? There is apparently an occasional problem with upgrades that results in a system that panics. Upgrading is an incredibly complex problem which is undoubtedly exasperated by the user being able to modify the upgrade plan. So I'm not surprised that occasional problems occur. The fix is to do a complete build from scratch. No more panics. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (Joseph Carl Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to order EqBuilder (edu)? Date: 15 Nov 1994 18:21:10 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University, Project EOS Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3aau6m$pgp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> OK, silly question: how/where do I order EqBuilder at the educational discount? I find myself in need of an equation editor. thank you. jcd -- ******************************************************** * Joseph C. Davis | People are not basically * * jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu | stupid; they just act * * (919) 515-7452 | that way... * ********************************************************
From: Carl Hoefer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP - available for NeXT? Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:18:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Distribution: world Message-ID: <3abc44$4om@galaxy.ucr.edu> Is there any dead-easy way to get a working version of PGP up and running on my '040 slab? I just downloaded the package from MIT, but I'm no C hacker, and I doubt it will compile smoothly on the first try. Can anyone help on this? Carl Hoefer carl@hegel.ucr.edu
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Chinese software Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:33:10 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3abcv6$a92@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, Are there any chinese editors that will run on NSIntel? Thanks in advance. -- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? In-Reply-To: lagarde@netcom.com's message of Tue, 15 Nov 1994 05:26:24 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov15150141@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> <39u5op$1k5@rosie.next.com> <lagardeCzAn42.8Gz@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 23:01:41 GMT Jean Lagarde writes: Jean> I've seen Interceptor mentionned here on a couple of occasions, but Jean> I've never seen any documentation/description of it. Is this available Jean> anywhere? Interceptor is a "hole" directly through the window server to the framebuffer. There are a _lot_ of rules to play by, and it's difficult to do an Interceptor program correctly. Jean> Also, what is going on in the case of the NextDimension and NeXTIME? Jean> Is Interceptor involved, is it simply the Window Server, or did NeXT Jean> do something special in that case? The NextDimension board sits out on the wrong end of a thin bus. If you can send a high level protocol over it, using the i860 to render the protocol (e.g., DPS), then it does great. If you have to slam bits over it (e.g., NeXTTIME), you lose :-(. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support 2-bit grey NeXTstation? Message-ID: <lagardeCzCFv3.9LI@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Cz0z97.op@trapac.com> <39u5op$1k5@rosie.next.com> <lagardeCzAn42.8Gz@netcom.com> <BYER.94Nov15150141@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 04:45:02 GMT In article <BYER.94Nov15150141@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>, Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote: >Interceptor is a "hole" directly through the window server to the >framebuffer. There are a _lot_ of rules to play by, and it's difficult to >do an Interceptor program correctly. If that's what interceptor is, then obviously, that's not the right way to do NeXTIME on the NextDimension (see below). >The NextDimension board sits out on the wrong end of a thin bus. If you can >send a high level protocol over it, using the i860 to render the protocol >(e.g., DPS), then it does great. If you have to slam bits over it (e.g., >NeXTTIME), you lose :-(. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the video is sent to the ND on that thin bus UNCOMPRESSED! I would assume that it is at least possible in principle to get a task going on the i860 to do cinepak (or whatever) decompression necessary to send the compressed data instead over the bus. (I don't have a clue what's the bandwidth of that backplane bus however; how does it compare with the throughput of a CD drive?) In any case, I doubt that NeXT has much resources to spend on doing special stuff for the ND. That's pretty much where ND owners loose. That being said, it's still nice that they got NeXTIME to work at all on the ND. Now what I would really like sometime in the future, is for NeXT to release some documentation and maybe their existing development tools for the ND so that guys like me can start playing around... I know. I'm dreaming. ;-) -------------- Jean Lagarde lagarde@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (NeXT mail accepted) voice: (619) 939-4852
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty) Subject: Re: OmniWeb -- Images don't load Message-ID: <3abocd$9d4@beatty.slip.netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: none References: <3a8gi2$uh@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 01:47:57 GMT In article <3a8gi2$uh@uuneo.neosoft.com> john@delta.success.net (Operator) writes: > > I am using the current version of OmniWeb and OmniImage. When loading > images, it transfers the data, but then it fails to display the images. > What am I doing wrong? I saw the same thing, and I worked around it by making a symbolic link: cd ~/Library/Services ln -s /LocalLibrary/Services/OmniImageFilter.services . -- Derek Beatty beatty@netcom.com Austin, Texas
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Remember WorldSpace? Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:50:55 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <3aca4f$258@comix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941114132139.20111B-100000@snow.ccit.arizona.edu> ...many glitches preceed... I belive the sources to WorldSpace can be found in the examples on the developer CD. I got curious enough to try to build WorldSpace, only to find that the make file is broken? whizer:/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/BackspaceViews 15 # ls Bezier/ FlexyCube/ Makefile Sperm/ BoinkSpace/ Library/ README.rtf Teapot/ FadingImage/ Life/ SlidingImage/ WorldSpace/ whizer:/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/BackspaceViews 16 # make install # installing backspace modules # Making and installing Bezier /bin/rm -rf //Library/BackSpaceViews/BezierView.bundle Tar'ing BezierView.bundle to //Library/BackSpaceViews /bin/strip -x -u //Library/BackSpaceViews/BezierView.bundle/BezierView /etc/chown -Rf root.wheel //Library/BackSpaceViews/BezierView.bundle /bin/chmod -Rf go-w //Library/BackSpaceViews/BezierView.bundle mv BezierViewbundle BezierView.BackModule mv: BezierViewbundle: Cannot access: No such file or directory *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. whizer:/NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/BackspaceViews 17 # cat Makefile Maybe someone else knows the fix? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Candlish NeXTmail --> candlish@oregon.uoregon.edu other mail --> whizer@cs.uoregon.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: Which spread-sheet? Suggestions please!!! Message-ID: <1994Nov15.155118.7604@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:51:18 GMT In article <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer) writes: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a good tool to create all kinds of charts. > The program should provide an easy way to control every single > element of the chart. Since I do all my calculations within SAS > I don't need sophisticated calculation and macro capabilities. I'd like to recommend CHaRTSMITH. It's a commercial app. Provides excellent control over all aspects of charts. Email chartsmith@blcksmth.com. I have no affiliation with the producer(s) of CHaRTSMITH other than as a satisfied customer. -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: UNIX/NEXTSTEP Paging Software? Message-ID: <thompsonCzCnHE.J4H@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <1994Nov9.175217.28877@il.us.swissbank.com> <3a0u1t$ba4@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 07:29:38 GMT >>Looking to evaluate UNIX or NEXTSTEP paging software. Software must >>support multi-user paging, paging service file (or equivalent), provide >>status information, support multiple geographic locations, have a queue >>and perform retries when failure occurs, and be supported. I think BenaTong makes something that does this. try info@benatong.com. Eric
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: more Fiend items Date: 16 Nov 1994 01:53:43 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> dunno if I'm the last to find this out or not, but alt-click on the Fiend icon toggles between showing all icons on level and just showing icons that are Level Independent. command-click on Fiend Icon advances a level control-click rotates level any others? TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Doug Moore Subject: This whole Swapfile Debate... Message-ID: <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <3a8e7p$eur@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 00:23:48 GMT OK. I've been resisting this, but can't help my self any longer. Yes, the swapfile will shrink under the right circumstances. Yes, swapfile compression works. Yes, a swapdisk can be configured to work (actually that is quite easy). All things considered, NeXT has a pretty good vm scheme. That said, how about this for a new scheme--- swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, each being owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own swapfile. Now it becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when *any* process exits. Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? -- Douglas Moore Integrity Solutions St Paul, MN 612-223-8474 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: rigoni@utov-ns.utovrm.it (Andrea Rigoni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mosaic Date: 16 Nov 1994 11:41:44 GMT Organization: Universita' di Pisa Message-ID: <3acr5o$ppm@serra.unipi.it> s there an application like Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? I have found till now that the only solution is to use Mosaic on X11. DO yo know where I can find x11 for NeXT (Pubblic domain) Thanks \ Rigoni
From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenGL and NeXTStep Date: 16 Nov 1994 05:56:54 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <3ac6v6$9la@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: OpenGL, Graphics, SGI Hello Does anyone know, if a port of OpenGL (the Graphic Libary of Silicon Graphics) is planned to NeXTStep. Or is a third parity product with OpenGL in preparation. Best wishes Erland -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Erland Wittkoetter -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888 (priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078 E-mail: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 16 Nov 1994 02:54:32 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3abs98$2kk@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, > each being owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets > it's own swapfile. Now it becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile > when *any* process exits. > > Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? This is not the first time this has been suggested. I forget all the reasons why this isn't a great idea, but one could start with the following: processes share virtual memory -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which spread-sheet? Suggestions please!!! Date: 16 Nov 1994 14:48:11 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <3ad63b$rvr@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <1994Nov15.155118.7604@bozell.com> In article <1994Nov15.155118.7604@bozell.com> cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) writes: In article <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer) writes: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a good tool to create all kinds of charts. > The program should provide an easy way to control every single > element of the chart. Since I do all my calculations within SAS > I don't need sophisticated calculation and macro capabilities. I'd like to recommend CHaRTSMITH. It's a commercial app. Provides excellent control over all aspects of charts. Email chartsmith@blcksmth.com. I have no affiliation with the producer(s) of CHaRTSMITH other than as a satisfied customer. If you want control over EVERY aspect of the chart, I'd suggest checking out GraphBuilder from VVI-DCS. It has just about every capability possible for graphing and drawing and .... and it's REAL reasonably priced. The breadth of the feature set has saved my butt a couple of times. My personal favorite is the polar chart with the interior of the curve filled -- which is probably because I requested it from them. Anyhow, they have a listing on the STEPWISE www site (look under "consultants") or you can contact them at graphing@mttam.com or (814)234-9613 I understand they're cutting a CD-ROM sometime in the next couple of weeks with individual binaries as well as Tri-FAT versions. They also have big educational discounts. (along the same lines as Lighthouse) Also, I have no affiliation with the GraphBuilder or VVI-DCS other than as a satisfied customer. Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP - available for NeXT? Date: 16 Nov 1994 14:51:21 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ad699$bdo@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <3abc44$4om@galaxy.ucr.edu> CarlHoefer wrote: : Is there any dead-easy way to get a working version of PGP up and running on my : '040 slab? I just downloaded the package from MIT, but I'm no C hacker, and I : doubt it will compile smoothly on the first try. Can anyone help on this? Try CryptorBundle-1.2 from any of the NeXT archives (like santiam.CS.ORST.EDU). It enables PGP encryption for NeXTMail. It has a nice interface too. -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Re: Word Processors (tocs) Message-ID: <CzBn6A.GL@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <3a863i$8ge@news.bu.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 18:25:21 GMT In article <3a863i$8ge@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > I have a medium sized document (roughly amounts to 120 printed pages), > and need to generate a table of contents for it. Pages does not seem to > be able to do this at the moment. Does 1.5 support this feature, or > failing that, what word-processing apps that run under NeXTSTEP have > this functionality? FrameMaker has auto-TOC; Pages does not...yet. The bad news is that the NS marketplace is so small and is so concentrated into a few dozen really large accounts that our feature list priorities are set by what paying customers need. The good news is that at least one significant Pages customer would like some form of auto-TOC. > > Comparing HUGE word processors (ok, DOCUMENT PROCESSORS > or whatever you want to call the things) like Pages and FrameMaker > (alas, another one I know does TOCs but I lack a white version), to some > of the stuff like Word 6, running on the Mac and under Windoze... the > NeXTSTEP stuff is an order of magnitude faster then comparable apps on > other platforms, which tend to CRAWL. Given that we're not satisfied with our current performance (even with Pages 1.5), that's a bit of a comfort to hear. But we're still going to work on improving performance as we add features. We have a few other surprises up our sleeves, too. ..bruce.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | No! I am not Bill Gates, nor would I want to be; Chief Technical Officer | I'd rather parse the fish than own the knife; Pages Software Inc | (Imagine! Having moby bux but chained bwebster@pages.com | to forty million lusers, what a life...) #import <disclaimer.h> | -- Jeff Duntemann --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:42:14 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AimWVKS00WBLM1iwAf@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Nov-94 This whole Swapfile Debate... by Doug Moore@??? > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, each being > owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own swapfile. Now > it becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when *any* process exits. > > Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? How about two reasons: One: excessive overhead going through the filesystem every time a process gets created or destroyed. Also, much higher overhead overall, since you'll have to grow and shrink many small swapfiles rather than reusing pages in one swapfile. Two: it doesn't resolve the issue of shared memory between processes, which is rather likely to be the type of problem which causes the current implementation to leak sometimes. (But don't stop with the ideas...this one was pretty good, and maybe someone will actually come up with ideas that will help NeXT write a better VM system.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 16 Nov 1994 16:47:12 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. WFC
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mosaic Date: 16 Nov 1994 17:33:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3adfph$slj@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3acr5o$ppm@serra.unipi.it> In article <3acr5o$ppm@serra.unipi.it> rigoni@utov-ns.utovrm.it (Andrea Rigoni) writes: > s there an application like Mosaic for NeXTSTEP? > I have found till now that the only solution is to use Mosaic on X11. DO > yo know where I can find x11 for NeXT (Pubblic domain) Try OmniWeb, together with OmniImage and OmniImageFilter. ftp.omnigroup.com /pub/software -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: john@beta.success.net (John Banghart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NE2000 Driver Date: 16 Nov 1994 18:11:00 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <3adhvk$dlg@uuneo.neosoft.com> Where can I find the NE2000 driver for NeXT? -John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: KSH for Next 3.2 Message-ID: <jpanicoCzDI2J.GDv@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> <39smev$nt3@nic-nac.CSU.net> <3a49pg$n1c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 18:30:18 GMT David Lemson (lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: : >In article <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> marty@sw.stratus.com : > (Marty Frongillo) writes: : >>I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. : >You can't. At least, not legally. It's a licensed commercial : >product. : >You may be able to find some not-quite-clones out there--but if : >you want the real thing, you'd need to pay. (And no, I don't : >know who, if anyone, is currently selling a NEXTSTEP-compatible : >version.) Bash (Bourne Again Shell) is a superset of the ksh. I dunno if anyone has this working under NS, but it ships with Linux and the sources are available. I think it's considered GNU software now. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: using SoftPC Date: 16 Nov 1994 15:33:45 GMT Organization: Internet Atlanta Message-ID: <3ad8op$rfp@metro.atlanta.com> Keywords: SoftPC, com ports, I would like to put NeXTStep on my pc at home. Currently, I am using Managing Your Money (MYM) under DOS to keep track of my finances and I use the CheckFree interface to pay my bills. The CheckFree software dials out to a processing center to upload payment information. Does anyone have any experience running mym under SoftPC and using CheckFree? If so, does it work ok? How well does SoftPC handle software that uses the com ports? thanks for any info on this. -- Joe Vossen SecureWare, Inc.
From: fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:26:48 GMT Message-ID: <3admdo$t3e@errigle.gpl.net> References: <AimWVKS00WBLM1iwAf@andrew.cmu.edu> Disclaimer: amateur at work - what follows may be garbage. Doug Moore wrote > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, > each being > owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own > swapfile. Now it becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when > *any* process exits. Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> replied >One: excessive overhead going through the filesystem every time a >process gets created or destroyed. Would allocating a file be much more expensive that what is currently done? Can anyone put guestimates to this? >Also, much higher overhead overall, since you'll have to grow and >shrink many small swapfiles rather than reusing pages in one swapfile. You could probably abandon skrinking altogether. If not, why should manipulating multiple small files be much more expensive that one large file? You'll probably have the same number of pages. >Two: it doesn't resolve the issue of shared memory between processes, >which is rather likely to be the type of problem which causes the >current implementation to leak sometimes. Have a shared file for shared pages; I believe the kernel/swapper already knows when it's dealing with a shared page, so it shouldn't be difficult to map shared pages onto a file shared by all processes, while mapping private pages onto single-process files. Such segregation of shared/private pages may even ease manipulation. --- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
From: sascha@anarch.ping.de (Sascha Gresk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP - available for NeXT? Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:10:39 GMT Organization: Wissenschaftsladen Dortmund/LogikFabrik Distribution: world Message-ID: <3adlff$phl@anarch.ping.de> References: <3ad699$bdo@crcnis1.unl.edu> > Try CryptorBundle-1.2 from any of the NeXT archives (like santiam.CS.ORST.EDU). > It enables PGP encryption for NeXTMail. It has a nice interface too. Keep in mind: CryptorBundle will leave plain text on your disk ! Try NXPGP instead. Anyway: 'make next' should compile smoothly .... in pgp26ui I had to replace fprintf(stdout, "some text here\ to be continued there"); to become fprintf(stdout, "some text here to be continued there"); good luck !!!
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:08:13 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3adlat$1bv@rosie.next.com> References: <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net> In article <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: :JacquesGarbi wrote: :: Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ? :: I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall :: right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III :: controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s :: instead of the usual 10MB/s. : :There is no Talus 2940 driver. There will be a 2940 driver in 3.3, :although it does not appear to support the 2940W. Actually, the 2940 family driver in 3.3 will support the 2940W with Fast/16-bit Wide SCSI. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to order EqBuilder (edu)? Date: 16 Nov 1994 20:19:37 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3adpgp$h29@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3aau6m$pgp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> In article <3aau6m$pgp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (Joseph Carl Davis) writes: > > OK, silly question: how/where do I order EqBuilder at the > educational discount? I find myself in need of an equation > editor. > > thank you. > > jcd > > -- > ******************************************************** > * Joseph C. Davis | People are not basically * > * jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu | stupid; they just act * > * (919) 515-7452 | that way... * > ******************************************************** Equation Builder by Digital Tool Works is available from OpenSource, Inc. at the educational discount price. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 16 Nov 1994 20:15:52 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3adp9o$h24@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. > WFC PixelMagician by Bacchus will convert from nearly every graphics format to nearly every graphics format. It is a very useful application. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: reality@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: more Fiend items Date: 16 Nov 1994 18:11:54 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3adi1a$eo7@network.ucsd.edu> References: <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> In article <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > any others? > How about this one: Under certain conditions, click on the Fiend's right eye (your left) and the Fiend gives a maniacal laugh and does a litle animation. Reality -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key - NeXTmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Editor for typing from right to left ? Message-ID: <CzDMyr.Hp8@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:16:02 GMT Hi. Does anyoine know of an editor (even a very simple one) for Next that supports typing from right to left ? Thanks. Oren.
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 16 Nov 1994 20:04:16 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3adok0$1bs@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, each being > owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own swapfile. Now it > becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when *any* process exits. > > Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? Isn't this what Solaris does? There are problems other posters mentioned, but if I'm right, Sun has found solutions. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: sccs ? Message-ID: <1994Nov16.181829.26656@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 18:18:29 GMT References: <8ilYBCq00iUxQ1U7pm@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <8ilYBCq00iUxQ1U7pm@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Nov-94 sccs ? by Samer >S Al-Droubi@mason1 >> I am looking for sccs (source code control system) for nextstep. Does >> any one know of a vendor for sccs for nextstep. If you any info >> about this please reply. > >SCCS is Sun's proprietary product. NEXTSTEP ships with RCS, which is an >upwards-compatible and freely available replacement from the Free >Software Foundation (although one may wish to haunt prep.ai.mit.edu for >a newer version of RCS and diff). SCCS is SysV. I have it on my Altos running SysV R2.2. At the risk of making the same error in the reverse direction, I think rcs is the BSD equivalent, but I probably am wrong. -- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Need macro lIke capability for word processing Message-ID: <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 19:07:29 GMT Basically, I need the ability to store strings of text that can be entered during transcription. This could be a multiple pasteboard type of deal. But, the real need would be to be able to attach a key sequence to each string of characters. Any advice? Thanks WEs -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Luis Acosta S. <lacosta@enlaces.ufro.cl> Subject: Questionnaire To Evaluate the Cost of Developing Multimedia Applications Sender: usenet@halcon.dpi.udec.cl Message-ID: <1994Nov17.004728.35117@halcon.dpi.udec.cl> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:47:28 GMT Organization: Enlaces Project Questionnaire To Evaluate the Cost of Developing Multimedia Applications. The following questionnaire is part of a project which will identify the cost associated with development of multimedia computer applications and help in developing models and functional forms useful in estimating the effort and resources required to complete a project of this type in the future. The specific objective of this study is to collect information which will specify the effect of each parameter and its weight in the hypothesized cost function. To compensate you for your time and effort in filling out this questionnaire, the sponsors will send you a copy of the completed report for your use and comment. Of course, the sources of the information and names of others participants will be maintained in strictest secrecy . If you have any questions about the objective of the study or the actual questionnaire itself, please feel free to contact me at the following. Luis Acosta or Enrique Hinostroza Telephone/Fax : 56-45-250759 E-mail : lacosta@enlaces.ufro.cl Please use the following key when responding to questions in the survey , where H, M, L and DK mean Hight, Medium, Low and Don't Know respectively. Selection of N means the parameter or selection does not apply to your project. We also ask that you complete a separate questionnaire for each software project completed to date or each separate project currently underway. To aid in your responses to individual items, we propose the following definition for a screen : An interface which the product present to the user in any instant in time which contains objects such as icons , drawing or schematics or text.If the interface is changed , we are said to be in another screen. I. _ Organizational Aspect. -------------------------- Please answer the following questions with respect to the type and size of your organization. 0._Please specify the exact name of the company or institution in which you work. ( ) 1._ Specify the number of persons who make up your development team by type. -Engineers ( ) -Designers ( ) -Consultants ( ) -Others (Please specify) 2._ Development time estimated for project definition and initial design requirements. -Engineering Months ( ) -Designers Months ( ) -Consultanting or Expert Months ( ) -Others Months (Please specify). ( ) 3._Total development time to complete the project. -Engineering Months ( ) -Designers Months ( ) -Consultanting or Expert Months ( ) -Others Months (Please specify) ( ) 4._ Does your company or institution currently use a specific method or model for estimating the cost of completion for a project before initiation of work? Please specify.............................. II.Human Resources Aspect ----------------------------- Please use the rating scale below with respect to the human resources capabilities of your organization.(H,M,L,N,DK) 1._ The work experience of my interdisciplinary group as a whole.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 2._ The work experience of Software Engineers. (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Software Engineers with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Software Engineers in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 3._ The work experience of Graphics Designers. (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Graphics Designers with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Graphics Designers in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 4._ The work experience of Consultants or others Experts . (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Consultants or others Experts with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Consultants or Experts in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) III._ Tecnology Aspect ------------------------ Please answer the following questions dealing with the hardware and software components of this project. ____Hardware Resources 1._ The development platform for this application is : DOS ( ) Windows ( ) Macintosh ( ) Unix ( ) Other (Please specify). ( ) 2._ Description of computer hardware used in the development of project. Brand or Type of ! Quantity ! RAM ! HHDD ! Speed Computer Hadware a._ b._ c._ 3._ Description of graphics devices used in the development of project.. Please include scanners, printers and other input and output devices. Brand and/or Type of device ! Resolution( dpi ) a._ b._ c._ ____Software Resources 4._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this proyect by your Software Engineers a._ b._ 5._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this proyect by your Graphics Designers a._ b._ 6._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this project by your Consultants or others Experts a._ b._ IV. Software Aspect ---------------------- Please answer the following questions dealing with the eventual finished product of your development efforts. 1._ Name of the project or the eventual finished product . 2._The area of applications for this product corresponds to following areas (check all that aplly) - Content sofware ( ). (multimedia encyclopedias,art collections ,etc.) - Promotional software ( ). (multimedia catalogs , advertising,etc) - General purpose software ( ). (desing, etc) - Simulations software ( ). (process simulation) - Other (Please specify). ( ). 3._ Please rate your applications with respect to the following criteria (H,M,L,N,DK) -Complexity of design from a technical standpoint (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Apparent complexity of design for eventual customer (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Size of data base used in the system (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Quality of information as judged by an expert in the field of application (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Ease of access to the information on the part of the user-user frendliness.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). 4 ._ Number of screens in the application. 5._ Average number of links between one screen and any other: Navigation by buttons ( ). Navigation by hypertext ( ). Navigation by clicking on a figure or hypermedia ( ). 6._ Average number of buttons or "clickable" elements per screen. 7._ Quantity and Quality of multimedia functions avaliable, by type: Media ! Quantity ! Quality (H,M,L,N,DK) -Sound : -Video : -Drawings, digital images and illustrations : 8._ Quantity of text fields in the screen where High would be more than 50 Medium would be between 30 and 50 Low would be less than 30 (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 9._ Quantity of additional functions avaliable, by type: Dictionary ( ) Conceptual map ( ) Interactive menus ( ) Othes (please specify) ( ) V._ If you have additional comment, adder here................. VI._ Place here your personals details for contact you : Name ( ). Position ( ). e-mail ( ). Adress ( ). City ( ). Postcode ( ). Telephone ( ). Fax ( ). Thank you for to answer this questionnaire.! Send the questionnaire at : e-mail : lacosta@lautaro.enlaces.ufro.cl. Luis Acosta Enrique Hinostroza Phone/fax :56-45-250759. Enlaces project Universidad de la Frontera .
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is William Wei author of PinYinEdit.app Date: 16 Nov 1994 22:34:16 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ae1d8$hup@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I would like to know how to contact William Wei. He apparently hacked out PinYinEdit.app and I have it but I cannot get it to work. The source code cannot be uncompressed and so I am left with pretty much *nothing*. Thanks in advance. ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: more Fiend items Date: 17 Nov 1994 05:15:30 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <3aeoti$421@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> References: <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> <3adi1a$eo7@network.ucsd.edu> In article <3adi1a$eo7@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: ] ]In article <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) ]writes: ]> any others? ]> ] ]How about this one: ] ]Under certain conditions, click on the Fiend's right eye (your ]left) and the Fiend gives a maniacal laugh and does a litle ]animation. ] ]Reality ] Yeah, I found this one by accident in an early version, and after it finished its little animation, it dumped core! Thank goodness for new versions! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: root@ulca24.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XNeXT Date: 17 Nov 1994 06:46:54 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Message-ID: <3aeu8u$6ac@news.gttw.com> Keywords: X Windows Hello, I am looking for a shareware version of X for NeXT. I am running Black hardware and NS-3.1. Can any of you direct me to a source? Thank you, Ronald R. Ohmer rohmer@jax.gttw.com or root@athis.gttw.com
From: root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XNeXT or XWindows for NS-3.1 Date: 17 Nov 1994 06:51:24 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Message-ID: <3aeuhc$6bl@news.gttw.com> Keywords: NS-3.1 XWindows Hello, I am looking for X for NeXT. I am using black hardware and NS-3.1. If you could direct me to a possible ShareWare version, I would be greatful. Thank You, Ronald R. Ohmer, root@athis.gttw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Message-ID: <1994Nov16.223110.13754@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <3adok0$1bs@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:31:10 GMT Andrew Abernathy writes > In article <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > > > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, each > being > > owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own swapfile. > Now it > > becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when *any* process exits. > > > > Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? > > Isn't this what Solaris does? There are problems other posters > mentioned, but if I'm right, Sun has found solutions. > > -- > andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) > 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 > (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) > I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself. I know... How about a swapfile for each page. (Be sure to up that i-node count) ;-). -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
From: jin@eden.rutgers.edu (Gum Lap Man) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is William Wei author of PinYinEdit.app Date: 17 Nov 1994 01:58:57 -0500 Organization: Rutgers University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aeuvh$6j@er5.rutgers.edu> References: <3ae1d8$hup@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: >Hi, >I would like to know how to contact William Wei. He apparently hacked out >PinYinEdit.app and I have it but I cannot get it to work. The source code >cannot be uncompressed and so I am left with pretty much *nothing*. I had no problem with PinYinEdit.app. May be you should try to get it from the ftp site again. Gavin
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: POP Mail Client for NS Date: 17 Nov 1994 08:33:53 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <3af4hh$kd9@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I've scoured the ftp archives but have not yet been able to find a NS Mail application that uses POP rather than NFS mounts. If anyone knows of such a beast I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Paul.
From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb -- Images don't load Date: 17 Nov 94 08:38:09 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <af.785061489@iaka> References: <3a8gi2$uh@uuneo.neosoft.com> <3abocd$9d4@beatty.slip.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty) writes: >In article <3a8gi2$uh@uuneo.neosoft.com> john@delta.success.net (Operator) >writes: >> >> I am using the current version of OmniWeb and OmniImage. When loading >> images, it transfers the data, but then it fails to display the images. >> What am I doing wrong? >I saw the same thing, and I worked around it by making a symbolic link: > cd ~/Library/Services > ln -s /LocalLibrary/Services/OmniImageFilter.services . Hmmm. I haven't done this, but making OmniImage my default tool for opening .tiff, .gif and .jpg files did make a difference. Select a file of the corresponding format, invoke the Inspector->Default tool in the Workspace menu. _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail please) Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-]
From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems compiling Listserv: Diagnosis??! Date: 17 Nov 94 08:41:30 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <af.785061690@iaka> References: <1994Nov14.205927.3411@clark.dgim.doc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit root@engine.dgcp.doc.ca (Operator) writes: >I am trying to compile a Listserv on a Cube with 3.2 running. Could >someone help diagnos a problem? PLEASE. >This is the relevant output from running setup: >Do you wish to use unproto for compilation [n]? >cc -c -g -I/usr/servers/listserv5.5 -I/usr/servers/listserv5.5/src >-I/usr/servers/listserv5.5/src -DNeXT -ansi misc.c >misc.c:36: warning: could not use precompiled header >'/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/libc.p', because: >misc.c:36: warning: #ifdef '__STRICT_ANSI__' not defined when precompiled, >but now defined: >misc.c:36: warning: on the command line >.. >.. >.. >defs.h:160: warning: redefinition of macro TRUE >/NextDeveloper/Headers/mach/boolean.h:160: warning: is the location of the >previous definition >defs.h:161: warning: redefinition of macro FALSE >/NextDeveloper/Headers/mach/boolean.h:161: warning: is the location of the >previous definition >*** Exit 1 >Stop. >/usr/servers/listserv5.5/setup: error(s) during compilation; quitting I'm not sure we're talking about the same Listserv code, I compiled a 6.0 version on a black box with no problems, except I had to add -fwritable-strings to cc options. Listserv does modify some literal strings and it caused SIGBUS aborts. As for your problem, I see only warnings there, maybe the "setup" script is too picky about the returned statuses. _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail please) Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Print to Postscript file? Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:02:44 GMT Message-ID: <CzDrwK.E3p@ritz.mordor.com> Having sat and tried to read the online docs for the developer kit on the screen, I'm beginning to want to print these out. Only problem is that I don't have a printer attached to my NeXTstation and I don't have $300 right now to drop on one. So, I'd like to print these out to a file, preferably PostScript, so that I can print it on a PC connected to a PostScript printer. How do I do this? I'm running NS3.1 developer. Thanks. Matt -- ====== Matthew Hocker, B.Eng [W]-cooled Volkswagen fanatic **** Canadian NeXT hocker@mordor.com GTI, Scirocco 16V, Jetta 16V * \/ * +American mail This posting is recyclable! ...Amiga forever... *\/\/* ========== *soon! "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: Re: Editor for typing from right to left ? In-Reply-To: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz's message of Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:16:02 GMT Message-ID: <vrotneyCzDxzD.JKL@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CzDMyr.Hp8@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:14:00 GMT In article <CzDMyr.Hp8@news.otago.ac.nz> oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) writes: > Hi. > > Does anyoine know of an editor (even a very simple one) for Next that supports > typing from right to left ? > > Thanks. > > Oren. I don't know of an editor that does this but it is easy to write a function to do this in Emacs. Just hang in a loop for all the keystrokes you are interested in having this behavior and bind them to a function such as the following: (defun left-to-right-self-insert-command (arg) (interactive "p") (self-insert-command arg) (backward-char)) For example (global-set-key "]" 'left-to-right-self-insert-command) You might want to also do some line manipulation stuff in the function but I don't know the exact behavior you have in mind. You can write a function to undo the effect of this by hanging in a similar loop but rebinding the same keys back to 'self-insert-command. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [SUBMISSION] HP JetDirect/Network printer driver (source code) to archives. Date: 17 Nov 1994 00:37:55 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ae8l3$et3@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: HP LaserJet JetDirect Network Printer Ethernet AppSocket PostScript Printer If anyone wants to have a driver ('if' printcap filter) for NS3.2 or earlier to drive HP printers with JetDirect Ethernet card, the source code is on the archives (see below). You need a Developer environment to install it. I had problems getting PostScript error alert back from the network printer with other solutions I tried, hence this code. LPD interface worked but I couldn't turn off "burst page" with that. PS error messages are sent back via e-mail. This replaces NeXT's 'prserver' and you will lose some features like accounting which are not important for me. ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/printer/JetDirectDriver.0.9.NI.s.tar.gz ftp.cs.orst.edu (somewhere)/JetDirectDriver.compressed -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP help Date: 17 Nov 1994 01:10:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <3aeahe$3ba@mark.ucdavis.edu> I am trying to set up a SLIP connexction--does anyone have any info--public domain software sites or anything at all? thanks pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: sccs ? Message-ID: <davisreCzDzz8.x9@netcom.com> Organization: independent References: <8ilYBCq00iUxQ1U7pm@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 00:57:07 GMT Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: > >SCCS is Sun's proprietary product. NEXTSTEP ships with RCS, which is an >upwards-compatible and freely available replacement from the Free >Software Foundation (although one may wish to haunt prep.ai.mit.edu for >a newer version of RCS and diff). > I don't believe SCCS is a Sun product, and RCS is not directly compatible with SCCS. The official distribution site for RCS is ftp://ftp.cs.purdue.edu/pub/RCS -- utilities for converting SCCS files to RCS repositories are available there as well. Rob -- Robert Davis (davisre@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: Faizel Dakri Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 17 Nov 1994 02:06:09 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <3aedqh$3bu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <jpanicoCzDI2J.GDv@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoCzDI2J.GDv@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: : Bash (Bourne Again Shell) is a superset of the ksh. I dunno if anyone : has this working under NS, but it ships with Linux and the sources are : available. I think it's considered GNU software now. : : Joe Panico : jpanico@netcom.com It is working under NS--infact I'm using it right now. You can get it from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and look for the file in /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/shell/bash.1.12.s.tar.gz Faizel Dakri faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTMail *welcome*)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Harvey C. Dueck) Subject: Re: [Q] Medical Image Product Message-ID: <1994Nov16.233511.8858@narwal.ali.bc.ca> Organization: A.L.I. Technologies References: <3a898p$25n@potogold.rmii.com> <3a8grh$2uo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:35:11 GMT mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: >> In article <1994Oct29.002554.5390@tdkt.mn.org> choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl >> Hoang) writes: >> :Do you know if there is a product that could help me in >> :processing/storing/retrieving medical images? Thanks. >> : Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org >The following company has a product for storing and retrieval of >ultrasound images on CDROM. >ALI Technologies >604-279-5468 >marcel_suntanto@ali.bc.ca Thanks for the plug, Mike. I sent email to Carl when he posted, but since you gave out our FAX number, I thought I should post our voice number as well. ALI Technologies makes an image management system called ALI UltraPACS, which is designed primarily for medical ultrasound departments. UltraPACS will fully support the DICOM protocol in the near future, so it will be able to exchange image data and patient information with DICOM conformant CT and MRI devices. UltraPACS archives the images it manages on WORM disk, and supports a variety of WORM jukeboxes. UltraPACS is a distributed system, and all images are available from any machine running the UltraPACS software. Installed customer sites range from one to fourteen computers. That's enough marketing info for one day. If anyone would like more information, feel free to send me some email. Our address, phone and FAX numbers are given below. Regards, - harv -- Harvey C. Dueck A.L.I. Technologies Ltd. harv@ali.bc.ca 95-10551 Shellbridge Way Phone: (604) 279-5422 Ext. 314 Richmond, British Columbia FAX: (604) 279-5468 V6X 2W9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Message-ID: <CzEowF.Lvr@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 09:55:27 GMT In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. > WFC Try GraphicsWorkshop, both source and object available at ftp.cs.orst.edu --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions plc 351 London Road Phone: (+44) 01702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (+44) 01702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk England (NeXTMail welcome) United Kingdom
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:21:07 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8imf03G00iV94AhWlV@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3admdo$t3e@errigle.gpl.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Nov-94 Re: This whole Swapfile Deb.. by Stephen Fitzpatrick@cs.q > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> replied >>One: excessive overhead going through the filesystem every time a >>process gets created or destroyed. > > Would allocating a file be much more expensive that what is currently > done? Can anyone put guestimates to this? I'll do better then that. Making some reasonable assumptions, using the individual swapfile approach would impose a .2 second penalty per process for process creation and destruction simply from disk access. Reference program #1 at the end of this message, of which I resulted in an average time of 20.0 seconds over 10 trials of 100 PID's, and 208.3 seconds for a single trial of 1000 PID's. The normal process creation time is around 0.044 seconds (reference program #2, which took 44.1 seconds to run), so this is a factor of 5 slowdown. I'd call that quite significant.... > You could probably abandon skrinking altogether. If not, why should > manipulating multiple small files be much more expensive that one > large file? You'll probably have the same number of pages. I thought your idea was based on an attempt to reduce the disk space usage due to the swapfile! If one can freely waste space here (without even trying to reclaim unused pages until a process dies), then what's the point? :-) >> Two: it doesn't resolve the issue of shared memory between processes, >> which is rather likely to be the type of problem which causes the >> current implementation to leak sometimes. > > Have a shared file for shared pages; I believe the kernel/swapper > already knows when it's dealing with a shared page, so it shouldn't > be difficult to map shared pages onto a file shared by all processes, > while mapping private pages onto single-process files. Such segregation > of shared/private pages may even ease manipulation. How does having a shared swapfile for some pages differ from having a shared swapfile for all pages? After all, it's reasonable to assume that most swapspace/VM leaks occur due to the difficult semantics of handling shared pages.... /*******************/ Program #1 #define NUMPIDS 1000 #define PIDSIZE (8192 * 5) #define BUFSIZE 1024 #include <ansi/ansi.h> #include <sys/file.h> main() { int count = 0, size, index, fd; char *swapfile = malloc(100), *buf = malloc(BUFSIZE + 1); if (!buf || !swapfile) exit(-1); for (index = 0; index <= NUMPIDS; index++) { sprintf(swapfile, "/tmp/swapfile-%d", count++); fd = open(swapfile, (O_RDWR | O_CREAT)); if (fd < 0) exit(-2); size = 0; while (size <= PIDSIZE) { size += write(fd, &buf, BUFSIZE); } fsync(fd); close(fd); unlink(swapfile); } } /*******************/ Program #2 #define NUMPIDS 1000 #include <ansi/ansi.h> #include <sys/file.h> main() { int index, childPid; for (index = 0; index <= NUMPIDS; index++) { if (!(childPid = fork())) { exit(1); } wait4(childPid, (union wait *)0, 0, NULL); } } -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sccs ? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:22:02 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <simf0uW00iV9EAhXEF@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Nov16.181829.26656@investor.pgh.pa.us> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Nov-94 Re: sccs ? by Bob Peirce #305@investor > SCCS is SysV. I have it on my Altos running SysV R2.2. Hmm, I think you're right, although I believe that Sun was involved in developing SCCS.... > At the risk of making the same error in the reverse direction, I think rcs is > the BSD equivalent, but I probably am wrong. Nope. RCS is available freely in source code form from the Free Software Foundation, from FTP sites such as prep.ai.mit.edu in pub/gnu, and is portable to considerably more machines then you can get SCCS for. RCS offers a pretty complete superset of SCCS's functionality, so there is no real reason to pay for SCCS. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Some questions about Fonts ... Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:12:00 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <3afdq0$ikb@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> In article <3ae1d8$hup@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> you wrote: : Hi, : I would like to know how to contact William Wei. He apparently hacked out : PinYinEdit.app and I have it but I cannot get it to work. The source code : cannot be uncompressed and so I am left with pretty much *nothing*. : Thanks in advance. : ..Mike. The .compressed is same with .tar.gz not .tar.Z, this is another story, so you have to rename it with .tar.gz and use the Opener.app then you can get it! If you still have trouble with it, please ftp ftp.edu.tw, I am responsible for the NeXT directory. Mark President of NCTU NeXT User Group HsinChu, Taiwan Email to: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw ( Not NeXTmail )
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chinese software Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:14:56 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3afdvg$ikb@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3abcv6$a92@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Michael C. Cam (mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca) wrote: : Hi, : Are there any chinese editors that will run on NSIntel? : Thanks in advance. : -- : ..Mike. Commercial: ChianWare Free: PinYin.app, you can find it in the Ftp site ... Mark President of NCTU NeXT User Group HsinChu, Taiwan
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is William Wei author of PinYinEdit.app Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:19:48 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3afe8k$ikb@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3ae1d8$hup@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Michael C. Cam (mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca) wrote: : Hi, : I would like to know how to contact William Wei. He apparently hacked out : PinYinEdit.app and I have it but I cannot get it to work. The source code : cannot be uncompressed and so I am left with pretty much *nothing*. : Thanks in advance. : ..Mike. The .compressed is same with .tar.gz not .tar.Z, this is another story, so you have to rename it with .tar.gz and use the Opener.app then you can get it! If you still have trouble with it, please ftp ftp.edu.tw, I am responsible for the NeXT directory. Mark President of NCTU NeXT User Group HsinChu, Taiwan Email to: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw ( Not NeXTmail )
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NE2000 Driver Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:23:36 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <3afefo$ikb@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3adhvk$dlg@uuneo.neosoft.com> John Banghart (john@beta.success.net) wrote: : Where can I find the NE2000 driver for NeXT? : -John You can find the D-Link de200 driver in ftp.edu.tw /submissions/Drivers It's for NS 3.2 I have not got the chance to test it Hope that's you want! Mark President of NCTU NeXT User Group HsinChu, Taiwan Email: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw ( Not NeXTmail )
From: kwl@oldp.uk.stratus.com (Keith W. E. Laidlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb -- Images don't load Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:25:35 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3afi40$od2@transfer.stratus.com> References: <af.785061489@iaka> In article <af.785061489@iaka> af@biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet) writes: > >> > >> I am using the current version of OmniWeb and OmniImage. When loading > >> images, it transfers the data, but then it fails to display the images. > >> What am I doing wrong? > > >I saw the same thing, and I worked around it by making a symbolic link: > > cd ~/Library/Services > > ln -s /LocalLibrary/Services/OmniImageFilter.services . > > Hmmm. I haven't done this, but making OmniImage my default tool > for opening .tiff, .gif and .jpg files did make a difference. > Select a file of the corresponding format, invoke the > Inspector->Default tool in the Workspace menu. > Sorry none of these work for me... I get Fatal Error 501 Command not Implemented Can't convert from text/html to OmniWeb/inline-image By the way I'm going thru a CERN proxy. -- Kind Regards Keith W. E. Laidlaw Stratus Computers; European Support for Databases
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Good NeXT ftp sites Message-ID: <CzDG8H.6o@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <rbzCz9FzC.EJx@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 17:50:40 GMT In article <rbzCz9FzC.EJx@netcom.com> rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: > gzip/gunzip/gnutar come as a part of NextStep. No need to hunt for > them. This is true only since 3.2! Until 3.0 there was no gzip/gunzip included. But you can find it on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de as /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/archiver/gzip.1.2.3.NI.b.tar. Another tip is to get Opener, which will include all normally used packers: /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/archiver/Opener.3.1.3a.NI.bs.tar.gz (also in Munich). Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Extracting addr. list from Mail? Message-ID: <1994Nov16.143821.18679@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 16 Nov 94 14:38:21 EST Organization: Univ of Miami IR I have a rather long list of mail addresses in my Mail address list and would like to extract these to a text file, print them out, etc. I can't figure out where they are - Of course, the network users I can find, but not my own private list. Any ideas? Thanks Thomas J. Herbert Univ. of Miami therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu (ascii) tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu (NeXTmail)
From: jacobsen@arundel.cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WANTED: POP Mail Client for NS Date: 17 Nov 1994 14:51:43 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <3afqlv$arn@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3af4hh$kd9@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> In article <3af4hh$kd9@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders) writes: } Hi there, } } I've scoured the ftp archives but have not yet been able to find a } NS Mail application that uses POP rather than NFS mounts. If anyone } knows of such a beast I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. } } Thanks } } Paul. Try using popOver.app: you should be able to find it on ftp.cs.orst.edu or I can NeXTMAIL it to you. Also, I wrote my own POP client (before I knew about popOver). If anyone is interested in it, I'll clean it up and submit it (source included of course). -E --- Erik Jacobsen NeXTMail: OK jacobsen@cae.wisc.edu <--finger for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Keeping track of printing -- how? References: <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Nov10012004@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:37:19 GMT Message-ID: <1994Nov16.093719.21636@proximus.north.de> In article <J.M.FIGUEROA.94Nov10012004@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>, Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill <J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk> wrote: [...] >I would like very much to keep a log of each printjob _including_ the >size of the job. lpd seems to keep logs (in /usr/adm/lpd-errs) but >there is no mention of the size of the job, but only of the start and >end times. This gives some indication but is far from what I need. [...] Add in Netinfo (or printcap if you don't use netinfo) af=/usr/adm/lp.acct Then you can use the command pac for "printer accounting information". Its output looks like Login pages/feet runs price proximus:gemoe 3988.00 1249 $ 79.76 [...] total 4336.00 1347 $ 86.72 If you are unhappy with the pricing, you can change this with the printcap entry "pc". See the manpages of "pac", "printcap" and "netinfo(5)" for more. Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 17 Nov 1994 14:31:46 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <3afpgi$bl8@news.cs.brandeis.edu> References: <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <cikh1Ce00iVG0A1Wx9@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > >And let's note the most important point about the virtual memory system >of a Unix-like operating system. The solution to swapfile problems is >very simple: > > _PROVIDE_ _ENOUGH_ _SWAPSPACE_ > >That's all you have to do to completely avoid problems with your virtual >memory system. Chuck, This is true, but about as helpful/insightful as saying "The solution to swapfile problems is __HAVE_INFINITE_RAM__". The point is, the machines do have limits, and it's nice when the OS works to minimize the effects of these limits on the user. A dynamically growing/shrinking swapfile in NS would be a great step toward this end. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: // iD DOOM for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Nov17.135652.8391@vax.sbu.ac.uk> Date: 17 Nov 94 13:56:52 GMT Organization: South Bank University does anyone know of any ftp site for doom for the NeXT platform? (or any other good games downloadable from ftp site) +---------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Internet : loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk | Don Loke | | JANET : loked@uk.ac.sbu.vax | South Bank University | +---------------------------------------+ London, England | | "Pentium Inside, Fried Egg Outside" | United Kingdom | +---------------------------------------+--------------------------+
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 17 Nov 1994 17:13:03 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ag2uv$d0r@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <8imf03G00iV94AhWlV@andrew.cmu.edu> [ BEWARE - rumor ahead...] Ever wonder just what application owns that last page in the swapfile, the one that's preventing it from shrinking? I've heard that it's likely to be our friend the window server, an application that doesn't quit until the system is shutdown, "exit" or "console" is entered in the login panel, or it crashes :-) [ BEWARE - poorly-understood concept follows :-] I've also heard that the window server maintains window devices for each window that's created and that the devices aren't freed for windows that aren't created as "one-shot". So when you open a non-one-shot window subsequently, it opens more quickly because a window server window device already exists. What I don't know is whether these window devices continue to exist even after a client process terminates. If they continue to exist, that would explain why the swapfile doesn't shrink as much as it grows. But how does the window server know that it already has a window device for a particular window? Any elucidation of the window server's window management policy would be appreciated. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: more Fiend items Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:04:54 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3afuv6$4g2@panix.com> References: <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.EDU> <3adi1a$eo7@network.ucsd.edu> <3aeoti$421@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> In <3aeoti$421@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: >In article <3adi1a$eo7@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: >] >]How about this one: >] >]Under certain conditions, click on the Fiend's right eye (your >]left) and the Fiend gives a maniacal laugh and does a litle >]animation. >Yeah, I found this one by accident in an early version, and after it finished >its little animation, it dumped core! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's part of the fun! Ha! =8-) - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Print to Postscript file? Date: 17 Nov 1994 18:08:46 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <3ag67e$iqt@relay2.oleane.net> References: <CzDrwK.E3p@ritz.mordor.com> In article <CzDrwK.E3p@ritz.mordor.com> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) writes: > > So, I'd like to print these out to a file, preferably PostScript, so that > I can print it on a PC connected to a PostScript printer. > > How do I do this? I'm running NS3.1 developer. > well, just choose "Print" from the menu, and... Choose the "Save" button.. Welcome to NeXTSTEP.... ;) Hope this helps, D. =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French Branch of PIPEX INTERNATIONAL .................WWW:http://www.oleane.net/........................
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: vt220 emulation Date: 17 Nov 1994 18:17:08 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <3ag6n4$irr@relay2.oleane.net> Hello, I al looking for a good vt220 emulation terminal... Any clue? Thanks, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French Branch of PIPEX INTERNATIONAL .................WWW:http://www.oleane.net/........................
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 17 Nov 1994 18:19:28 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <3ag6rg$iru@relay2.oleane.net> References: <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. > WFC Try to use the pbmplus filters...... I think they are in the usual ftp sites. You will need to use a intermediate formet (ppm). Hope this help, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French Branch of PIPEX INTERNATIONAL .................WWW:http://www.oleane.net/........................
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: XNeXT or XWindows for NS-3.1 Date: 17 Nov 1994 18:35:12 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <3ag7p1$iu4@relay2.oleane.net> References: <3aeuhc$6bl@news.gttw.com> In article <3aeuhc$6bl@news.gttw.com> root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) writes: > Hello, > I am looking for X for NeXT. I am using black hardware and NS-3.1. If you > could direct me to a possible ShareWare version, I would be greatful. try ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/X11/MouseX. The MouseX server is a X11R5 for black hardware.... Hope this helps, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French Branch of PIPEX INTERNATIONAL .................WWW:http://www.oleane.net/........................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: IMPORT/EXPORT Next Adrressbook References: <3a08s0$5u5$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:37:23 GMT Message-ID: <1994Nov17.123723.25440@proximus.north.de> StayInTouch can export to WriteNow Merge Files, WordPerfect Merge Files and to any character delimtited files. Unfortunately StayInTouch is commercial. Contact Info@SmartSoft.COM. Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: wucolin@popeye (Colin Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 17 Nov 1994 19:07:14 GMT Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (NewServer) Message-ID: <3ag9l2$k78@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> References: <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3adp9o$h24@potogold.rmii.com> Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: : In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) : writes: : > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of : ImageViewer : > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. : > WFC : PixelMagician by Bacchus will convert from nearly every graphics format to : nearly every graphics format. It is a very useful application. Let me : know if you'd like more information. There's also something called GraphicsWorkshop. I don't know if it's still on the archives (orst or sonata). e-mail me if you can't find it. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050 "Words are like fingers pointing at the moon. Once you see the moon, fingers are no longer needed"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CzFItJ.EAn@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:41:43 GMT References: <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3a9c5j$aah@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Organization: NDSU ACM In article <3a9c5j$aah@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>, <Hal.Varian@umich.edu> wrote: >In article <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: > >> Now that I've got the most excellent OmniWeb running on my >> black NeXT, I'd like to set up my own homepage so other >> people can check me out. Can anybody point me in the direction >> of an httpd daemon for the NeXT OS, or any info on how to >> set one up on my machine? >> > >The NCSA server, httpd, works out of the box. I've got the CERN httpd on mine. There's a binary for it, too, if you don't want to mess around compiling it. I've heard that the CERN has more options; what they are, I'm not sure. -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: Need macro lIke capability for word processing Message-ID: <CzF7I1.Luq@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 16:37:12 GMT In article <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > Basically, I need the ability to store strings of text that can be entered > during transcription. > > This could be a multiple pasteboard type of deal. check out pastry.app, on the ftp sites --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 18 Nov 1994 08:11:16 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Message-ID: <3ahnj4$999@news.gttw.com> References: <3a49pg$n1c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <3a49pg$n1c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: :eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: : :>In article <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> marty@sw.stratus.com :> (Marty Frongillo) writes: :>>I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. : :>You can't. At least, not legally. It's a licensed commercial :>product. : :>You may be able to find some not-quite-clones out there--but if :>you want the real thing, you'd need to pay. (And no, I don't :>know who, if anyone, is currently selling a NEXTSTEP-compatible :>version.) : :Our ksh 88i source from AT&T compiled very painlessly on NS 3.2. :(amazingly enough) :Our campus has a ksh source license that we purchase from AT&T. :-- :David Lemson (217) 244-8833 :University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator :Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD I too am looking for one, so if anyone can direct me to on, or a clone I would be greatful.. Thanks, Ron Ohmer root@athis.gttw.com
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which spread-sheet? Suggestions please!!! Date: 18 Nov 1994 08:27:37 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ahohp$l0r@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <1994Nov15.155118.7604@bozell.com> Keywords: parasheet > In article <1994Nov9.082333.12979@roche.com> killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo > Killer) writes: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for a good tool to create all kinds of charts. > > The program should provide an easy way to control every single > > element of the chart. Since I do all my calculations within SAS > > I don't need sophisticated calculation and macro capabilities. > Lighthouse Design just shipped ParaSheet, which supports *lots* of graph types, and lots of control over the graphs. Check it out. You can request a demo from their net site, www.lighthouse.com. Best, Pete -- *************************************************************************** Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy. ***************************************************************************
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted FTP/NEWS for NS3.2 Date: 17 Nov 1994 17:34:13 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3aglp5$1k5@anshar.shadow.net> References: <3a69jh$c8v@nova.voicenet.com> Darren Wright (dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote: : Are there any graphical NEWS readers and/or FTP programs for NSFIP 3.2? News: NewsGrazer NewsBase FTP: GatorFTP Yftp - Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: newsgrazer Message-ID: <CzEwIy.LC@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <CyytJo.1AL@galileo.pr.net.ch> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:40:10 GMT In article <CyytJo.1AL@galileo.pr.net.ch> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: > At the moment I'm using NG Release 2.0 Version 72.2 and it crash if > I choice the "general" newsgroup... I suppose there is an article > with some unexpected contents, but I don't know which one. > So I'm waiting that this article expire :-( You should better try to read this article with another reader. In my case, I use the Emacs rnews command in this cases. If the article is marked read in your .newsrc file there will be no crash anymore. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Newsgrazer: Cancel article Message-ID: <CzF2B8.130@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 14:45:06 GMT How does Article/Post/Cancel Article in Newsgrazer work? I only get a "Cancel failed: /usr/local/news/lib/inews: cannot shift" message. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is William Wei author of PinYinEdit.app Date: 17 Nov 1994 22:01:46 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3agjsa$os0@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3afe8k$ikb@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Thanks to all. I renamed it to "source".tar.Z and everything works now. ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: The latest version of am??? Message-ID: <CzGHwn.5sn@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <39q9oo$18i@machthenext.dannug.dk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 09:19:34 GMT In article <39q9oo$18i@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) writes: > Hi, > > Can anyone point me to a ftp site, where I can pick up the latest version of > am, the answering machine software for Zyxel modems??? > > I heard that the latest version should be able to work together with NXFAX, > thus my interest, anyone that can confirm that??? am.1.16 is still the latest version of am and can be found on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de pub/platforms/next/communication/programs/am.1.16.s.tar.gz if I remember correctly. I had this version running together with the Demo version of NXFax1.03 successfully. NXFax 1.04 doesn't work, because it doesn't set up the lockfile for the port correctly. I will try to put in a feature in the next release of am to circumvent this misbehaviour. -- Attention: Address change! Don't use the address kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de after 25.11.94. Axel Habermann kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP - available for NeXT? Date: 18 Nov 1994 11:08:38 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ai1vm$mui@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <3abc44$4om@galaxy.ucr.edu> <3ad699$bdo@crcnis1.unl.edu> Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote: : CarlHoefer wrote: : : Is there any dead-easy way to get a working version of PGP up and running on my : : '040 slab? I just downloaded the package from MIT, but I'm no C hacker, and I : : doubt it will compile smoothly on the first try. Can anyone help on this? : Try CryptorBundle-1.2 from any of the NeXT archives (like santiam.CS.ORST.EDU). : It enables PGP encryption for NeXTMail. It has a nice interface too. Any idea if it would be possible to hack Mail.app so that PGP encryption could be enabled with plain non-NeXT mail, too ? Perhaps with 3.3 ? PGP-Encryption for NeXT-Mail has only a very limited use, at least for me. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: Extracting addr. list from Mail? Message-ID: <CzFpvI.451@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Nov16.143821.18679@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 23:14:05 GMT therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes >I have a rather long list of mail addresses in my >Mail address list and would like to extract these >to a text file, print them out, etc. > >I can't figure out where they are Try ~/.NeXT/.mailalias -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 18 Nov 1994 12:07:03 GMT Message-ID: <3ai5d7$5re@errigle.gpl.net> References: <8imf03G00iV94AhWlV@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <8imf03G00iV94AhWlV@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > You could probably abandon skrinking altogether. If not, why should > > manipulating multiple small files be much more expensive that one > > large file? You'll probably have the same number of pages. > > I thought your idea was based on an attempt to reduce the disk space > usage due to the swapfile! If one can freely waste space here (without > even trying to reclaim unused pages until a process dies), then what's > the point? :-) It's a question of the distribution of process lifetime; if many processes have short lifetimes, then reclaiming when they die is reasonable. Shrinkage of a live process's file may be necessary for long-lived processes. > How does having a shared swapfile for some pages differ from having a > shared swapfile for all pages? After all, it's reasonable to assume > that most swapspace/VM leaks occur due to the difficult semantics of > handling shared pages.... It may reduce the size of the problem; instead of a swapfile takes two days to grow to ~60M (which is when I reboot), it may take a week. (Unless you're claiming the entire 60M is leakage?) I accept your timings for overhead imposed by file creation; question then is, can that be reduced? Don't know if this point has been raised about individual swapfiles: if each is created with a reasonable initial size, they'll probably use too much diskspace. (Even 1M each would probably be too high.) Then they would have to be created with zero size and expanded as needed; more overheads. -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | S.Fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (NeXT) Department of Computer Science | http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~fitzpatrick/ Queen's University of Belfast
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 17:43:46 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gimxmWe00iV2Q_md11@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3afpgi$bl8@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by David A. Sinclair@cs.bra >> _PROVIDE_ _ENOUGH_ _SWAPSPACE_ >> >>That's all you have to do to completely avoid problems with your virtual >>memory system. > > This is true, but about as helpful/insightful as saying "The solution > to swapfile problems is __HAVE_INFINITE_RAM__". I disagree. In many circumstances, adding more swapspace is a perfectly valid and cost-efficient method for greatly improving the longevity of a system requiring 24/7 stability. People should not overlook this, as it is a good solution that really does work. > The point is, the machines do have limits, and it's nice when the OS works to > minimize the effects of these limits on the user. A dynamically > growing/shrinking swapfile in NS would be a great step toward this > end. Agreed. (Hopefully, you have realized that the swapfiles under NEXTSTEP actually do shrink....) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko) Subject: Command line Vector-EPS to Bitmap conversion Message-ID: <armin.785168353@master> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 14:19:13 GMT Hi everybody, I need to know how to convert vector EPS or PS files to BITMAP (eg. TIFF) files by command line. It should be easy on a NeXT (I think), but i don't know how to do it. There are a lot command line converters (eg. pbmplus package) out there, but i haven't found anything that does vector EPS to bitmap conversions. Please e-mail the answers (if there are any). Thanx. -------------------------------------------------------------- Armin Retzko Schumannstr.5 30823 Garbsen Germany e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (NeXTmail OK) -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:06:54 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kinAACu00UhB41jkxh@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3ai5d7$5re@errigle.gpl.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Nov-94 Re: This whole Swapfile Deb.. by Stephen Fitzpatrick@cs.q [ ... ] > It's a question of the distribution of process lifetime; if many > processes have short lifetimes, then reclaiming when they die is > reasonable. Shrinkage of a live process's file may be necessary for > long-lived processes. The problem isn't to produce a swapfile implementation that better than NeXT's current implementation in one specific area. You've got to consider the worst case behavior. The swapfile-per-process idea doesn't offer any significant improvements (as it can still lose VM for shared memory), and performs noticably worse. > It may reduce the size of the problem; instead of a swapfile takes > two days to grow to ~60M (which is when I reboot), it may take a > week. (Unless you're claiming the entire 60M is leakage?) No, it's not all leakage. On the other hand, 60 MB just isn't that big. Try keeping your machine up for 2 weeks and see how big the swapfile gets. It's likely to not grow to more than 100 MB or so, and then stay there, perhaps growing a MB or less a day.... > I accept your timings for overhead imposed by file creation; question > then is, can that be reduced? Sure, by a little, perhaps. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: don@fenway.col.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Intel] Soundcards and SoftPC Date: 18 Nov 1994 16:01:47 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3aij5b$3o5@news.bu.edu> Keywords: SoftPC, Soundcards Has anyone gotten a soundcard to work under SoftPC? I have a ProAudio Spectrum card but it isn't recognized in SoftPC. From what I can tell from the online help it's supposed to be possible. Am I wrong? Don
From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Date: 18 Nov 1994 16:08:21 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3aijhl$b6a@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3ai5d7$5re@errigle.gpl.net> Instead of a per process swapfile, how about just two swapfiles. Swap as usual to the first swapfile but, every once in a while, check for pages that have been swapped out for a long time. Any such pages could be swapped in and immediately swapped out to the second swap file. -- Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail ok
From: mbaumele@pws3.itr.ch (Michael Baumeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: datarow to .gif ? Date: 18 Nov 1994 10:01:06 GMT Organization: ITR (Interkantonales Technikum Rapperswil) Message-ID: <3ahu12$gfh@sky.itr.ch> Mime-Version: 2.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question: I want to make a curve in a .gif File in a Background prozess. Are there any tools ? Mail me Michael Baumeler ITR Rapperswil mbaumele@rz-info.itr.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] News about OpenSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Nov18.093548.13481@urz.unibas.ch> From: fang@ifi.unibas.ch (Niandong Fang) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 09:35:48 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Keywords: NeXTSTEP, Sun Workstation, OpenSTEP Hi, Netter, Does anyone know anything about the OpenSTEP on Sun Workstation? - Is OpenSTEP compatible with NeXTSTEP? - If not, what is the differences? - When will it come to the market? - How it can compete with other GUI (X, Motif, etc) on Sun? Advantages and disadvanges? If you know any references (include WWW, FTP address) on above issues, please also mention. I will post a summary if I receive enough reponses. Thank you in advanced for you help. Regards, Niandong -- ******************************************************************** Niandong Fang * Tel. + 41 61 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik * Fax + 41 61 321 99 15 Universitaet Basel * Mittlere Strasse 142 * email: fang@ifi.unibas.ch CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland * (NeXT mail accepted) ********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP - available for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Nov18.073716.331@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 18 Nov 94 07:37:16 CST References: <3abc44$4om@galaxy.ucr.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <3abc44$4om@galaxy.ucr.edu>, <carl@hegel.ucr.edu> wrote: > Is there any dead-easy way to get a working version of PGP up and > running on my >'040 slab? I just downloaded the package from MIT, but I'm no C > hacker, and I > doubt it will compile smoothly on the first try. Can anyone help on this? > >Carl Hoefer >carl@hegel.ucr.edu It will compile out of the box; no errors. Compile the rsaref part first. I'm working on a c-shell script front end that uses ShellPanels. At this point it's not quite as good as the Mac version. (Which means it's really bad, but usable.)
From: osg@onramp.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Developers Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 12:28:46 PDT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <3aio2n$dtc@news.onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NeXT DEVELOPER OSG (Object Systems Group) is a technology-based consultancy that provides assistance to Global 1000 corporations in new and emerging technologies. We currently have an opening in the N.E. for someone with the following experience: NeXT Developer Minimum 3+ years total experience with extensive NeXTStep, AppKit, DBKit and Objective C. Send resume to osg@onramp.net , US mail your resume to Object Systems Group, Inc., Attn: Glenda Maddox, 5001 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Dallas, Tx. 75207, or fax to 214 746-5974.
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: vt220 emulation Date: 18 Nov 1994 17:59:30 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3aiq22$456@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3ag6n4$irr@relay2.oleane.net> In article <3ag6n4$irr@relay2.oleane.net> dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) writes: :I al looking for a good vt220 emulation terminal... Any clue? Below is information on Cables and Communicae. Both products support VT200. Call us for more informaion. --- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions reflect positively or negatively on me only! Cables Cables is the definitive terminal emulation and communications application for NEXTSTEP. VT320/220/102, ANSI-PC, DG Dasher D210, Tektronix 4010/4014; UNIX tty, pty, telnet client, remote serial port use; X/Y/ZModem, Kermit; full color support, complete and accurate emulations with character sets and keyboard mapping, drag-and-drop configurations and more. With accuracy, robustness, and ease of use, Cables is the clear choice for your interoperability and legacy application needs. Price $189 - $399 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Yrrid Inc. To Order OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN order@opensource.com Communicae A high-performance communication package for NEXTSTEP. Communicae includes both DEC VT220 and Tektronix 4010/4014 terminal emulation, as well as standard file transfer protocols. It can be used as a virtual terminal logged into a NEXTSTEP computer or to log into information services and mainframe systems that are not connected to an Ethernet. Communicae supports all documented VT100 features, including: adjustable tab stops; host computer setup control; region scroll; U.S., graphic, and multinational character sets; VT52 mode; full application keypad support; insert/delete line and character; full printer control; 132-column mode; and true double-high/wide character emulation. File transfers include ASCII text transmission, Xmodem, Ymodem, Kermit, and externally controlled transfer protocols, such as ZModem. Starname file transfers and drag-and-drop operation are supported. Plain text transmissions can easily be set up for unfamiliar hosts by using options that can delay text on a per-character or per-line basis, wait for a handshake character from the host, or wait until the host finishes echoing characters. Price $395 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Active Ingredients, Inc. To Order OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN order@opensource.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: NextStep Database Options Message-ID: <1994Nov17.230146.26926@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <rburnsCz4Brw.5ow@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 23:01:46 GMT In article <rburnsCz4Brw.5ow@netcom.com> rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) writes: > I have a need to find an easy to use database > for a group of NextStep users. These folks > aren't hackers(they are actually a group of > librarians and archivists). > > The big unusual need that we will have is > the ability to use/store database tables > on Sybase. Get VarioData PRO. Mail to info@lighthouse.com -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenGL and NeXTStep Date: 17 Nov 94 08:53:58 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Nov17085358@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> References: <3ac6v6$9la@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> In-reply-to: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de's message of 16 Nov 1994 05:56:54 GMT > Hello > > Does anyone know, if a port of OpenGL (the Graphic Libary of > Silicon Graphics) is planned to NeXTStep. Or is a third parity > product with OpenGL in preparation. > Best wishes > Erland If you have such information, please publish it in this group or email to me. I am waiting for the port of OpenGL. Best Best wishes Zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Fax driver for Supra? Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Nov18134720@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 18:47:20 GMT Does anyone know about a cheap fax driver for SupraFax 144LC modems. I know about NXFax but this is too expensive for me (100$). I also heard about DFax but I cannot reach them. Is there any other solution? Anybody has a copy of DFax to sell? Thank you, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: ian@candela.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Ian Wittmeyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX for NSFIP? Date: 18 Nov 1994 22:29:03 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <3aj9rf$1hhb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Keywords: TeX Hi, Do YOU have TeX/LaTeX running on NS/Intel? If so, what did you do? Did I miss something or was TeX not bundled with NS3.2? Ian Wittmeyer ian@candela.atmos.colostate.edu Dept of Atmospheric Science CSU, Ft. Collins, CO (303) 491-8527
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney) Subject: Re: Lisp In-Reply-To: alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU's message of 10 Nov 1994 23:36:16 GMT Message-ID: <vrotneyCz3JEp.53@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39uapg$rr6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: all Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 09:23:13 GMT In article <39uapg$rr6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU (Michael Alcorn) writes: > I'm trying to get a copy of Franz Common Lisp for NeXT (franz.3.1) > Can anyone point in the right direction? Call Franz Inc. - (510) 548-3600. But if you get Allegro CL 3.1.20 you will need a patch for NS 3.x. Also note that CLISP and AKCL also run on a NeXT. I haven't had the chance to try GCL yet. I've tried to install CLiCC but ran into a snag after running ASK-RUNTIME but it looked like a simple error, just haven't had the time to debug it. Also MIT Scheme runs on the NeXT. All of the above except Allegro are public domain on FTP archives. -- William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: more Fiend items Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CzHyKC.oCL@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 04:17:00 GMT References: <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.edu> Organization: NDSU ACM In article <9411160753.AA16716@alleg.edu>, Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote: >dunno if I'm the last to find this out or not, but >command-click on Fiend Icon advances a level shift-command-click on Fiend Icon goes back a level (just like you'd expect) -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Postscript File - Why Why Why won't it print Message-ID: <1994Nov19.163855.1694@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:38:55 GMT I have a file that was originally an RTF file. I converted it to postscript with a utility from Michael Hawley. I can open this file into preview with no errors, and can then print it. But, no combination of pslpr or other command line tools will let me print it. If you have experience with this, I would like to send you this file and see if you can print it via command line. It is less than 10 K. Thanks in advance Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: This whole Swapfile Debate... Message-ID: <1994Nov19.192132.24629@pcp.ca> Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. References: <3adok0$1bs@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 19:21:32 GMT In article <3adok0$1bs@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) writes: > In article <CzC3rD.7MI@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > > > That said, how about this for a new scheme--- > > swapfile gets replaced by swapdir, a directory of swapfiles, each > being > > owned by a single process. Every swapping app gets it's own swapfile. > Now it > > becomes trivial to shrink the swapfile when *any* process exits. > > > > Can anyone out there think of a reason this won't work? > > Isn't this what Solaris does? There are problems other posters > mentioned, but if I'm right, Sun has found solutions. No, Solaris swaps to disk partitions. You're probably thinking of the filesystem interface to the process table. -- Royce Howland, Object Systems Group | I speak for my cat, but Howland_Royce@pcp.ca | not for OSG or PCP. (PanCanadian Petroleum) |
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 19 Nov 1994 20:03:52 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Hello, Mail has been significantly improved in 3.3. BUT.... Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: - Click "Reply" - click "Forward" - Click inside the message - CMD-a - CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) - select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header - and delete it. This is FAR TOO COMPLICATED !!!! My mother found it easier to insert the little "> "'s by hand ! :) And thats why I dont use Mail.app at all, except for Nextmail. I use elm all the time, which I hate, but at least it got a reply function, and thats what I need ALL the time !! I don't need searching, sorting, etc... I mean, it would be nice, but reply is much more important. So, NeXT, do you hear me ??? Please tell me, that I'm totally wrong, and 3.3 Mail already has the Reply feature. -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ugly Icons in 3.3... Date: 19 Nov 1994 20:41:09 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3alnt5$fqk@news.bu.edu> Uh... a stupid question, but one that's important to me. If I can't have the black hardware sitting on my desk, then I at least want to look at a cool little shaded reminder of it as my root directory. The 3.3 white icons are hideous. So to ask a stupid question... is there anything preventing me from dumping 'em and re-installing some of the 3.2 black icons, or have they suddenly been integrated into the binaries for the .apps like I believe terminal is (the root icon is just a root.tiff under /usr/lib/NextStep/etc....) mucho gracias to any who know,
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 19 Nov 1994 20:51:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3alofu$qla@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: > I use elm all the time, which I hate, but at least it got a > reply function, and thats what I need ALL the time !! > I don't need searching, sorting, etc... I mean, it would be > nice, but reply is much more important. Amen. I also need a reply function much much more than all this fancy searching and sorting. I wasn't planning on upgrading. However, if 3.3 Mail.app has a reply function, I'd probably buy it. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX for NSFIP? Date: 19 Nov 1994 21:21:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3alq9c$mp3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3aj9rf$1hhb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <3aj9rf$1hhb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ian@candela.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Ian Wittmeyer) writes: > Do YOU have TeX/LaTeX running on NS/Intel? If so, what did you do? > Did I miss something or was TeX not bundled with NS3.2? TeX does come with NS/Intel 3.2; it's on the CD ROM somewhere---maybe under packages. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:42:20 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Nov-94 3.3 Mail, does it have Repl.. by Marc Guenther@cis.uni-mu > Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it > still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! > > What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: > - Click "Reply" > - click "Forward" > - Click inside the message > - CMD-a > - CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) > - select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header > - and delete it. Try: - Command-shift-W - Command-shift-R - TAB - Command-a - Command-shift-> No mouse movements, so it's probably three or four times as fast.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Message-ID: <1994Nov19.232220.20951@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <39r4l3$d5h@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <39s0jt$4mn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 17:49:21 GMT Joshua W. Burton (burton@het.brown.edu) wrote: : Mark E. Kotanchek writes : > While I know NEXTSTEP doesn't automatically shrink the swapfile.... : ... I am constantly operating my system at <= 30MB swapspace and hardly had any problems. But I think it is true that the misbehavior of some applications is to a great deal the cause of this swapfile behavior. I debugged an app that did not free its soundbuffers/objects properly which resulted in really big vm leaks. After I fixed it I got almost every byte back after the app has terminated. -- Thomas Katzlberger katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield The AUSTR(al)IAN from EUROPE.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 20 Nov 1994 02:30:46 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov20023047@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:42:20 -0500 >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: CWS>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Nov-94 3.3 Mail, does CWS>it have Repl.. by Marc Guenther@cis.uni-mu >>Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it >>still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! >> >>What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: >>- Click "Reply" >>- click "Forward" >>- Click inside the message >>- CMD-a >>- CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) >>- select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header >>- and delete it. CWS>Try: CWS>- Command-shift-W CWS>- Command-shift-R CWS>- TAB CWS>- Command-a CWS>- Command-shift-> CWS>No mouse movements, so it's probably three or four times as fast.... Not if your Sean Luke it aint :-) -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: taweili@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chinese software Date: 19 Nov 1994 22:24:51 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <TAWEILI.94Nov19222448@nunki.usc.edu> References: <3abcv6$a92@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-reply-to: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca's message of 15 Nov 1994 22:33:10 GMT >>>>> "Michael" == Michael C Cam <mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca> writes: In article <3abcv6$a92@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes: Michael> Are there any chinese editors that will run on NSIntel? Check out ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/chinese/PinYinEdit. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li Computer Engineering and Computer Science University of Southern California. Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for SF171 software Date: 20 Nov 1994 17:08:23 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <3anvq7$7mj@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, Does anyone know where I can find software that allows me to create SF171 forms? I am interested in being able to create a form, print it, save it, and then easily update any of its contents and make another new SF171 print out. Thanks for any information. Scott Harrison.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: Where to order EqBuilder (edu)? Message-ID: <1994Nov19.100559.867@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <3aau6m$pgp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 10:05:59 GMT In article <3aau6m$pgp@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (Joseph Carl Davis) writes: > > OK, silly question: how/where do I order EqBuilder at the > educational discount? I find myself in need of an equation > editor. > Try eqb_info@dtw.com Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available |
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Making GIF files on a NeXT Date: 20 Nov 1994 13:00:03 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3aodcj$14v@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <3a8unc$8n8@bighorn.terra.net> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste In article <3a8unc$8n8@bighorn.terra.net>, Simson L. Garfinkel <simsong@pleasant.cambridge.ma.us> wrote: >Hi. > >I'm looking for a way to make GIF files on NeXTSTEP. > >I thought that PixelMagician was the way. Unfortunately, the copy that I had >was HostID locked to a machine I just sold. (they didn't get the program, but >I don't have the right ethernet address on my system now.) > >(Pixel Magician is a wonderful program.) > >I've tried using OmniImage, but it chokes on the 24-bit TIFF files I've got. >I've tried sending mail to the folks at OmniGroup, but I don't get an answer. > >Anybody else have any ideas? Try Graphics Workshop. If you can't find it mail Alex Raftix at araftis@lore.acs.calpoly.edu. Even if you do mail it you probably want to mail him to get the most recent version. -Mont Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
From: uk05899@mik.uky.edu (christopher edward etesse) Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to find latest version of p2c for NeXT Date: 20 Nov 94 21:32:38 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <uk05899.785367158@mik.uky.edu> Anyone know where I can find the latest version of p2c for 040 NeXT station. I know there was a version p2c-1.21alpha-07.Dec.93. Any ideas? Thanks - Chris o
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: benst@stuyts.nl (Ben Stuyts) Subject: Looking for .avi player Message-ID: <CzL5vB.2In@stuyts.nl> Organization: Stuyts Engineering Haarlem BV Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 21:47:34 GMT I am looking for a .avi and .flc movie player. I found that double-clicking on an .avi file starts up NEXTIME.app, but it doesn't seem to be able to actually play the files. Is there such an app available? Thanks, Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) Subject: Speeding up NeXTIME on the ND (was Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support...) Message-ID: <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 22:14:43 GMT I'm following up to one of my own posts, where I was wondering about the advantage of doing NeXTIME decompression on the ND board rather than on the main board: In article <lagardeCzCFv3.9LI@netcom.com>, I wrote: >In article <BYER.94Nov15150141@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>, >Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote: >>The NextDimension board sits out on the wrong end of a thin bus. If you can >>send a high level protocol over it, using the i860 to render the protocol >>(e.g., DPS), then it does great. If you have to slam bits over it (e.g., >>NeXTTIME), you lose :-(. > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but the video is sent to the ND on that >thin bus UNCOMPRESSED! I would assume that it is at least possible >in principle to get a task going on the i860 to do cinepak (or whatever) >decompression necessary to send the compressed data instead over the >bus. (I don't have a clue what's the bandwidth of that backplane bus >however; how does it compare with the throughput of a CD drive?) Well, I checked what I have on the NeXTbus, and it seems that current performance of the bus varies between about 3.5MB/s for one-word, non-burst transfers, to about 14.5MB/s for sustained burst transfers. Therefore, it would seem possible to get good NeXTIME performance out of an ND if the decompression takes place on the ND itself. My next question then is: can the i860 do it? I don't see why not, but maybe I'm missing something important. Personally, I would even accept some performance loss at other tasks (dragging color windows around, etc.) while the ND is busy playing NeXTIME. Any comments from the ND experts? Jean --- lagarde@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (NeXT mail accepted) voice: (619) 939-4852 fax: (619) 939-4851
From: hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: rtf gutenberg? Date: 20 Nov 1994 22:41:32 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <3aojas$jig@News1.mcs.com> I recall a while back someone announced they'd established an archive of be-nexted files from the Gutenberg project. (rtf'd and indexed, I believe.) Could somebody email me a pointer to where it is? Thanks much, jon -- Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com
From: ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 21 Nov 1994 03:08:38 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ap2vm$e30@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> > .............................. I wonder how many places would be > willing to buy a NeXTSTEP 3.3 upgrade *if* it just addresses this > problem. ...................................................... You could not have put it better. I have personally decided to delay upgrading my 3.0 until 4.0 comes out if possible for this very reason. If the new version does not appear to offer any substantially new features, and does not contain THE one major bug fix I am looking for, why should I upgrade? After all, it costs money, and, at least as importantly, it takes time and it is a hassle. Incidentally, quite apart from the memory leak, I disagree quite strongly with the statement that in ``reasonable'' applications the feature of deflating the swapfile is not needed. I run Mathematica and view images in ImageViewer all the time, and I see them as perfectly reasonable applications. Yet I have to reboot every time soon after I am finished. I thought the whole point of NeXT was that it was convenient to use, and having to reboot all the time convenient is not. Are you trying to tell me that Mach is keeping 300MB worth of empty space on my hard disk forever - unless I reboot - just in case it might need it again? I think either NeXT is going to fix the problems with its memory management soon, or else they will go down in history as their own little version of the MS-DOS 640k barrier.
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Offline mail readers, recommendations? Date: 20 Nov 1994 19:53:18 -0700 Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc Message-ID: <3ap22u$8vh@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Can anyone tell me where to get a good offline mail reader? My service's mail system is pine, and I'm on original black hardware. I'd prefer a shareware version. Thanks in advance. ==============================Jon Sacharuk================================ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you're a fan of disclamers, insert one here<<<<<<<<<<<<< - I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck - Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying - Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -me - No generalization is correct, not even this one- unknown ////////////////////////ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ --
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: rtf gutenberg? Date: 21 Nov 1994 03:22:34 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3ap3pq$fnr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3aojas$jig@News1.mcs.com> hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) writes: >I recall a while back someone announced they'd established an archive >of be-nexted files from the Gutenberg project. (rtf'd and indexed, I >believe.) >Could somebody email me a pointer to where it is? >Thanks much, That would probably be Joshua Burton; his announcement would be in the c.s.n.announce archives from a few months back. Nifty note: Project Gutenberg has been early and often supported by NeXT, and in fact the main servers, mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu and jg.cso.uiuc.edu, are a Slab and a Cube, respectively. There's a GIF of jg on its Web home page (http://jg.cso.uiuc.edu/) The mighty Cube sports an "Intel Outside" sign on its sable sides...:-) Steve -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opening AVI or QT in NEXTIME: How? Date: 21 Nov 1994 00:04:13 -0700 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <3apgpd$ogj@xmission.xmission.com> I've downloaded a couple AVI and QT files from a net archive site. I try to open them using NEXTIME's Movie | Open command, but no window appears. If I rename it to *.mov, it says "Parsing error: not a movie" or something to that effect. If I run a QT movie through a Mac->Unix filter, it gives me the same error. How does this thing load QT and AVI files, anyway? .......................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Message-ID: <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 08:10:17 GMT In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Nov-94 3.3 Mail, does >it have Repl.. by Marc Guenther@cis.uni-mu >> Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it >> still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! >> >> What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: >> - Click "Reply" >> - click "Forward" >> - Click inside the message >> - CMD-a >> - CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) >> - select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header >> - and delete it. > >Try: > >- Command-shift-W >- Command-shift-R >- TAB >- Command-a >- Command-shift-> > >No mouse movements, so it's probably three or four times as fast.... It's still a lot more than typing 'R' under trn for instance. It would be easy to write a service to do this if only NeXT allowed services with no send or return types. Odd that they don't. Dave
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Word Processors (tocs) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 21 Nov 1994 09:42:58 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3apq33$7j8@news.bu.edu> References: <3a863i$8ge@news.bu.edu> <CzBn6A.GL@pages.com> Bruce F. Webster (bwebster@pages.com) wrote: : In article <3a863i$8ge@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: : > Comparing HUGE word processors (ok, DOCUMENT PROCESSORS : > or whatever you want to call the things) like Pages and FrameMaker : > (alas, another one I know does TOCs but I lack a white version), to some : > of the stuff like Word 6, running on the Mac and under Windoze... the : > NeXTSTEP stuff is an order of magnitude faster then comparable apps on : > other platforms, which tend to CRAWL. : Given that we're not satisfied with our current performance (even with : Pages 1.5), that's a bit of a comfort to hear. But we're still going to : work on improving performance as we add features. We have a few other : surprises up our sleeves, too. ..bruce.. Well don't get TOO comfortable! I didn't say that Pages just SCREAMED and whizzed along fast enough to make me motion-sick, I just said that nearly everything moderately large running under Windoze or on the Mac, basically sucked, and ran incredibly slowly. My relative benchmark of a text editor/word processor that goes VERY fast and is extremely snappy and responsive on the NeXT is Edit. I know many people including a few writers (who use it to write entire books), who feel the same way and use it for nearly everything, and only switch to something like FrameMaker or Pages at the very last stage where they are formatting their text prior to printing it or sending it to other people. If Pages could respond at the speed of Edit, now that would be something truly wonderful! FWIW: Actual CPU speed does not seem to have a drastic effect on the perceptual speed of Pages or any other word processor running on the NeXT. They all move more or less the same way whether on the black hardware, the white hardware that I have access to (Pentium/90 with #9GXE and a DGX/JAWS) or the HP's. S Go figure.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? In-Reply-To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de's message of 19 Nov 1994 20:03:52 GMT To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov20133517@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:35:17 GMT In article <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: Please tell me, that I'm totally wrong, and 3.3 Mail already has the Reply feature. Actually there is a fairly simple way to add a Reply feature to any Mail.app, at least if you have the mailapp utilities and TickleServices (both of which are available from your nearest ftp site). Here is the service I wrote a few years ago for that purpose. With this you just select the message you want to reply to, hit 'cmd-R' and up pops a nice compose window with the properly pruned and quoted text. Carl Edman "Key Equivalent" = "R"; "Menu Item" = "Mail/Reply Text"; "Send Type" = "NeXTmail Message pasteboard type"; "Tcl" = "\ set mail [exec /usr/bin/rtf-ascii << [pasteboard read $NXRTFPboardTyp\ e]] set pos [string first \"\\n\\n\" $mail] set header \"\\n[string range $mail 0 [expr {$pos}]]\" regexp \"\\nFrom: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null from regexp \"\\nSubject: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null subject if {[regexp \"^R\\[Ee\\]: \" $subject]==0} { set subject \"Re: $subje\ ct\" } exec /usr/local/bin/nextmail -e -s \"$subject\" $from << [refmt [prep\ end [string range $mail [expr {$pos+2}] end] $quoteString] $lineLengt\ h] ";
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Message-ID: <9411211206.AA06800@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 13:07:09 +0100 Subject: PC-NeXT-print Hi. In our Sound Engineering Dept. we have a couple of NeXT black hardwares, which are connected to the network. We have a few PC, too, which are working under PC-NFS. The problem is, that we have two nice NeXT Printers and we are not able to print on those NeXT Printers from any PC. This is very important for us so could you help us ? Could you write me down some information- how we can print on the NeXT Printers from PC, what we should do to get right connection between PC and NeXT Printers? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Stanislaw Stefanowski, staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WWW info: Music Notation Software for NeXT Date: 21 Nov 1994 14:47:22 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <3aqbtq$j1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> For preliminary information on Calliope, an advanced music notation editor for the NeXT machine, see the following URL: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/wfc/ The system is in beta test, and has been used for producing over a hundred early music scores, including about 50 motets and a full-length opera score of over 200 pages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: NetInfo "All Objects Are Read Only"? Message-ID: <CzMHFt.KwB@aetnacan> Keywords: netinfo Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 14:55:04 GMT In my travels with TransSys PNI SLIP, I have encountered the above situation and also discovered that this will happen after the FIRST time you bring up a PNI link... 1) Is there any way to "fix" this (gee...would be nice to add a printer or new user accounts after I've run PNI!!) 2) Is this the "normal" behavior? 3) What, technically, induces this behaviour from NetInfo (is there a switch/flag/etc)? Thanks! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: vt220 emulation Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:42:25 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3aqm61$jca@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3aiq22$456@potogold.rmii.com> In article <3ag6n4$irr@relay2.oleane.net> dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) writes: : :I al looking for a good vt220 emulation terminal... Any clue? : : Another package that provides VT220 support and much much more is Tip Top from Tip Top software. Information is listed below. TipTop An extensible telecommunication and general-purpose terminal emulation program. Easy-to-use GUI includes standard NEXTSTEP user interface features. Terminal window features toolbar, scrollback buffer, find panel, changeable fonts, etc. Built-in PhoneBook and Inspector facilitate easy and convenient configuration of the communication parameters, window appearance, and other settings. ANSI, DEC VT102, and VT220 emulations, all with ANSI color support, are included. TipTop allows multiple serial port (modem) connections and shell sessions. TipTop comes with a powerful script programming language based on Tcl, Expect, and Objective-C languages. The automatic script recorder makes it easy to create basic scripts. The scripting language can run Michael O'Reilly's "term" program which allows simultaneous SLIP-like connections to a remote Unix site. Bundled file transfer protocols include X-, Y-, and ZMODEM. Any external transfer protocol can be used with TipTop. Transfer API is included and allows external transfer protocols to be fully graphically integrated with TipTop. Other features include flexible keyboard mapping: any key can be redefined as any character, string of characters, or script. Plus much, much more... Price $185 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer TipTop Software --- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions reflect positively or negatively on me only!
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 21 Nov 1994 12:06:32 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411211806.AA17710@alleg.EDU> It would be easy to write a service to do this if only NeXT allowed services with no send or return types. Odd that they don't. I don't know all that much about this, but wouldn't it be relatively easy to write a service (maybe a TickleService?) that would take the input (message you want to forward), copy it to the pasteboard, send a "new" command for a new compose window, and then paste back the input, only indented? Maybe I'm being too simplistic here because I really don't know all that's involved. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Speeding up NeXTIME on the ND (was Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support...) Date: 21 Nov 1994 18:25:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <3aqoms$15j6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> In article <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) writes: &I'm following up to one of my own posts, where I was wondering about &the advantage of doing NeXTIME decompression on the ND board rather than &on the main board: & &In article <lagardeCzCFv3.9LI@netcom.com>, &I wrote: &>In article <BYER.94Nov15150141@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>, &>Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote: &>>The NextDimension board sits out on the wrong end of a thin bus. If you can &>>send a high level protocol over it, using the i860 to render the protocol &>>(e.g., DPS), then it does great. If you have to slam bits over it (e.g., &>>NeXTTIME), you lose :-(. &> &>Correct me if I'm wrong, but the video is sent to the ND on that &>thin bus UNCOMPRESSED! I would assume that it is at least possible &>in principle to get a task going on the i860 to do cinepak (or whatever) &>decompression necessary to send the compressed data instead over the &>bus. (I don't have a clue what's the bandwidth of that backplane bus &>however; how does it compare with the throughput of a CD drive?) & &Well, I checked what I have on the NeXTbus, and it seems that current &performance of the bus varies between about 3.5MB/s for one-word, &non-burst transfers, to about 14.5MB/s for sustained burst transfers. & &Therefore, it would seem possible to get good NeXTIME performance out &of an ND if the decompression takes place on the ND itself. My next &question then is: can the i860 do it? I don't see why not, but maybe &I'm missing something important. Personally, I would even accept some &performance loss at other tasks (dragging color windows around, etc.) &while the ND is busy playing NeXTIME. & &Any comments from the ND experts? Well I wouldn't consider myself an expert, but as a ND owner I personally don't believe that one in practice gets 3.5MB/s even with sustained bursts. Why? Well I have a 25Mhz ND 64M on 040, 20M on ND. When I load .anim's that are about 40-50M and let my machine run the anim over and over so as to allow everything else to swap out I get about 3frames/sec MAXIMUM, typically about 2.2-2.8fps. That translates to about 2.7MB/sec (640x480x24bit). I'd love to know what those turbo ND owners get. It might be that the application I'm using (Movie2.51 I think) could be written better, and perhaps NeXTTime does a better job(I don't have NeXTTime yet), but I have yet to see. And a final comment. I really wish NeXT would just swallow their pride on the ND and release whatever source they had that would allow us to program the i860. I really don't care what condition their code is in, but I would like to see NeXT at least try to make up for the unfufilled promise of the JPEG compression, by releasing source/documentation on the ND kernal (minus the postscript/renderman proprietary code) so that we can use the ND for some real work!! Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov (David R. Quarrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Acrobat? Date: 21 Nov 1994 19:01:07 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Is there an Acrobat viewer for NEXTSTEP? --------------------------------------------------------------------- David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Lab MS 50B-3238 (NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov Berkeley, CA 94720 DECnet : lbl::drquarrie Tel: (510) 486-4868
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opening AVI or QT in NEXTIME: How? Date: 21 Nov 1994 19:00:13 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <3aqqnt$q9j@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3apgpd$ogj@xmission.xmission.com> kris (kris@xmission.com) wrote: : I've downloaded a couple AVI and QT files from a net archive site. I try to : open them using NEXTIME's Movie | Open command, but no window appears. : If I rename it to *.mov, it says "Parsing error: not a movie" or something : to that effect. If I run a QT movie through a Mac->Unix filter, it gives me : the same error. : How does this thing load QT and AVI files, anyway? : .......................kris Open QuickTime, just double-click, AVI still not support ... do you see the file ICON of NEXTIME for .move file? Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Doom for NeXT FAQ? Message-ID: <ezimmerm.6.000B8F72@UWyo.Edu> From: ezimmerm@UWyo.Edu Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 11:33:32 Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming Salutations! I can't get my Doom.app to run on my 030 cube (no, it doesn't tell me it's a 486 app). It just starts to launch then the icon goes away. Is there a NeXT Doom FAQ? Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Driver for Canon CJ-10 ColorPrinter? Date: 21 Nov 1994 20:33:39 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3ar073$ire@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> We have a Canon CJ-10 ColorPrinter and are looking for driver software. It seems like a German branch of HSD who had a driver went out of business. Is there anyone who uses a CJ-10 who could give us some info? Thanks, -- Gottfried Mayer-Kress Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org, gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice/fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg) URLs: http://www.santafe.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 21 Nov 1994 01:19:54 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3aosjq$1e3@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Try: > >- Command-shift-W >- Command-shift-R >- TAB >- Command-a >- Command-shift-> Question: what do you call a user interface which requires you to repeat the same complicated task over-and-over again in order to obtain a simple, desirable and often-required task? Answer: poor. While the other improvements to Mail.app are quite nice, this part sucks. BTW, you forgot element #6, which is "find and strip out the old header" for which you still need the mouse.... well, I guess you can use the ^K thingy, but then you're into several more keystrokes. Maybe they should grab some of that old NewsGrazer code and stick it into Mail.app... - darcy -- What time is it? Time for: The Weather Report. What could be better than Paul Weller, the Jam and the Style Council? A connection between Paul Weller and Morrisey. What could be better than Morrisey on the cover of Spin magazine? Morrisey... inside Spin magazine, page 54. Bananna. -- The Weather Report
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: running trn locally with remote news server Date: 21 Nov 1994 14:44:57 -0600 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <3ar0s9$jma@jake.bga.com> I would like to run trn to read my news locally while connected to a news server vai SLIP. I have pointed /usr/local/lib/newshost and /usr/local/lib/news/server to the remote news host. When I ran trn, it failed saying it could not find the file /usr/local/lib/trn/active2. After rummaging around, I ran the getactive utility to create active2. It seemed to suck the active file from the news server over to my machine. When I then ran trn again it worked, but nothing was threaded. Looking at the man page for mthreaded, it seemed that I needed to run this utility to build the threaded info. I did this, but it took forever. I left it going all night, but it had only processed a couple of hundred news groups. I talked to one of the support people at my internet service provider and he thought I needed to compile it so that it uses XOVER support from the news server. Does anyone know about this? I looked for NeXT sources to trn on ftp.cs.orst.edu. It had a package in /software/NeXT/sources/comm, but it didn't really have the sources for recompilation. Anyone know where I could lay my hands on these? Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world. bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands (NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: rtf gutenberg? Date: 21 Nov 1994 21:55:43 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ar50v$gnt@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <3ap3pq$fnr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Steve Weintz writes ) hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) writes: ) >I recall a while back someone announced they'd established an archive ) >of be-nexted files from the Gutenberg project. (rtf'd and indexed, I ) >believe.) ) ) >Could somebody email me a pointer to where it is? ) ) That would probably be Joshua Burton; his announcement would be in the ) c.s.n.announce archives from a few months back. Yep. Try this out: ftp://ftp.et.byu.edu/pub/next/Literature and warning: It is a HUGE archive! -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP-2.2 config help Date: 21 Nov 1994 09:31:27 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3aqavv$sqt@panix.com> Hi. I am trying to configure PPP-2.2 on my standalone NS/I 3.2 box. As far as I can see from the logs, the PPP connection is negotiated successfully, but my configuration is not quite working yet, so I'm looking for a pointer or two. My setup sequence is as follows: [0. Add nameservers' IP addresses to /etc/resolve.conf, and change the NetInfo binding to "Use local domain only" in HostManager.app. Reboot.] 1. Start the ppp daemon (the kernel server has already been loaded) (I'm not using the 'defaultroute' option) 2. ifconfig ppp0 inet gatewayIPAddress netmask 255.255.255.0 -trailers up 3. route add default gatewayIPAddress 1 (The last two steps are from the comp.protocols.ppp FAQ) When I try to ping a foreign host by name, ping says 'Unknown host'. I assume this is because it can't get to the nameservers. If I try to ping a foreign host by IP address, it sends the packets, but never gets returns, and so I get 100% packet loss. The thing I was going to try tonight was adding a line to /etc/gateways for my provider's gateway (marking it 'passive'). Is this the missing step, or am I still clueless? Any help would be appreciated. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP-2.2 config help Date: 21 Nov 1994 10:10:35 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3aqd9b$5rq@panix.com> Hi. I am trying to configure PPP-2.2 on my standalone NS/I 3.2 box. As far as I can see from the logs, the PPP connection is negotiated successfully, but my configuration is not quite working yet, so I'm looking for a pointer or two. My setup sequence is as follows: [0. Add nameservers' IP addresses to /etc/resolve.conf, and change the NetInfo binding to "Use local domain only" in HostManager.app. Reboot.] 1. Start the ppp daemon (the kernel server has already been loaded) (I'm not using the 'defaultroute' option) 2. ifconfig ppp0 inet gatewayIPAddress netmask 255.255.255.0 -trailers up 3. route add default gatewayIPAddress 1 (The last two steps are from the comp.protocols.ppp FAQ) When I try to ping a foreign host by name, ping says 'Unknown host'. I assume this is because it can't get to the nameservers. If I try to ping a foreign host by IP address, it sends the packets, but never gets returns, and so I get 100% packet loss. The thing I was going to try tonight was adding a line to /etc/gateways for my provider's gateway (marking it 'passive'). Is this the missing step, or am I still clueless? Any help would be appreciated. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: beattie@bugs.sfsu.edu (Keith &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Animation in 3Dkit Date: 22 Nov 1994 05:46:58 GMT Organization: California State University Sacramento Message-ID: <3as0ki$jtj@news.csus.edu> Keywords: animation 3Dkit RenderMan I haven't been able to find any examples of animation using the 3Dkit in the bundled NextDeveloper examples. Can anyone point me to some sample code that uses the NeXT API for such animation, or to other approaches for accomplishing that task? Thanks. Keith
From: ted@clark.net (Ted Okada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netscape4X--Wow! Date: 22 Nov 1994 06:41:24 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <3as3qk$9o8@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi. Netscape for X, pretty intense, very impressive news features. Question: Any newsreader comparable in NS with these sets of wheels? Any talk of a port? ciao ************************** in html format--Netscape/Linux--ftp://ftp.mcom.com ************************** Newsgroup: comp.sys.next.advocacy Standards? Don Yacktman (20) Tom Gall (23) Don Yacktman (20) Christian Neuss (19) Ron Peterson (22) benjamin bernhard (26) Mark T. Dornfeld (39) Don Yacktman (63) Gregory H. Anderson (36) Gary Lang (19) Rohit Khare (23) Todd M. Swan (16) Dan Grillo (10) Rohit Khare (53) Gregory H. Anderson (13) Annard Brouwer (23) Phil Mesnier (24) Gary Lang (16) Gary Lang (17) NeXT-PPC Should Wait Bernhard Scholz (17) Terry Wilcox (17) Jonathan J Huang (21) Tom Gall (30) Tony Maas (32) Jay Fuchs (49) Matt Kennel (20) SHISHADO (16) Jay Fuchs (26) Sean Elliott Russel Steve Sarich III (57) Jay Fuchs (55) Bernhard Scholz (42) Louis Todd Heberlein (33) Bernhard Scholz (28) Sean Elliott Russell (14) Joe Freeman (15) novice needs help pleeese! - Dave James (1) novice needs help pleeese! - Dave James (1) Word Processors (tocs) - Bryony Bechtold (44) Bruce F. Webster (34) Bryony Bechtold (35) Re: NRO chooses NS - Adam Beeman (Contractor (42) NEXT on HP PA/RISCMy company is currently using HPUX version 9.01 for Why isn't NeXT selling better Andrew Abernathy (38) Garance A. Drosehn (23) Larry Gadallah (21) Is NeXT at COMDEX? - Robert Stephen Rodgers (2) Michael Rutchik (16) NS didn't start out with ... (Was Re: DPS a requirement (Was Re: NEXTST pcu@umich.edu (39) Mike Dahmus (87) pcu@umich.edu (68) Mike Dahmus (17) pcu@umich.edu (29) Mike Dahmus (39) Terry Wilcox (29) Mike Dahmus (46) Tom Gall (93) Mike Dahmus (98) pcu@umich.edu (43) buddha@samsara.circus.com (40) Tom Gall (26) Damien Weiss (10) Mike Dahmus (23) Jonathan Hendry (13) Terry Wilcox (18) Mike Dahmus (22) Tom Gall (40) Mike Dahmus (31) Stephen Peters (11) Damien Weiss (17) Re: Looking for NEXT IN LINE's email address - Robert Wyatt (35) What about the next next (NS not selling) Terry Wilcox (20) Tom Gall (29) Terry Wilcox (24) Terry Wilcox (39) SHISHADO (14) Jay Fuchs (48) Darcy BROCKBANK (17) Terry Wilcox (39) Ernest Prabhakar (32) Godwin (44) Tom Gall (60) Michael Shandony (27) Tom Gall (28) Louis Todd Heberlein (21) Steve Jobs (13) Sean M Willson (27) Michael Shandony (16) Chris Saldanha (33) mike emmel (48) Garance A. 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Zhao (3) Toon Moene (35) Ralf Suckow (13) Robert Wyatt (16) Terry Wilcox (23) Steve Dekorte (31) Bernhard Scholz (18) Chris Cuilla (34) Ralf Suckow (26) NeXT sighting on Maui - Lee Altenberg (14) Re: Total Power Mac sales - Charles William Swiger (61) Bryce Jasmer (10) INFOWORLD/OS/Windows blurb - Chris Huston (29) Don Hurter (14) Jonathan Hendry (16) Michael Shandony (24) Michael Shandony (24) HP-PA and NS owners: your opinions - Sean Elliott Russell (15) Dave Randall (23) kris (15) Re: Why isn't NeXT selling better - Joe Freeman (42) Re: VCPP.SUX (was Re: WARP is feared by MS) - PETER WIEBE BURKA (23) David Charles Leblanc (18) kris (35) Eric van Bezooijen (37) NeXT ads in csn.announce - Greg C. Foliente (19) Ernest Prabhakar (72) Questions for the Idle - Jonathan Burns (65) John (18) Steve Sarich III (20) Scott Byer (33) Steve Sarich III (56) May I ask a stupid question? - Robert J Goos (16) Jay Fuchs (49) Mark D. Doyle (23) Tom Ribaudo (14) Jay Fuchs (12) kris (30) Matt Kennel (38) Chris Saldanha (20) Steve Sarich III (28) Tony Austin (51) Ralf Suckow (17) Ross Garrett Cutler (22) Re: INFOWORLD/OS/Windows blurb - Charles William Swiger (26) Re: NS didn't start out with ... (Was Re: DPS a requirement (Was Re: Charles William Swiger (15) Mike Dahmus (14) Tom Gall (31) Mike Dahmus (17) Tom Gall (38) free PPP or SLIP for NeXT? - Kenneth Stailey (8) Richard Ruth (21) Was: "...stupid question." - Tony Austin (19) Re: DPS a requirement (Was Re: NEXTSTEP outsold OS/2 last quarter! - Ga Don Yacktman (26) Gary Lang (48) I hate NetInfo ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com (72) Chris Saldanha (35) Hugues RICHARD (23) Jerry Weiss (8) Re: May I ask a stupid question? - Charles William Swiger (20) *****************************
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:37:56 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3arb0k$bi4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3afpgi$bl8@news.cs.brandeis.edu> sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) writes: > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > And let's note the most important point about the virtual memory > > system of a Unix-like operating system. The solution to swapfile > > problems is very simple: > > > > _PROVIDE_ _ENOUGH_ _SWAPSPACE_ > > > > > Chuck, > > This is true, but about as helpful/insightful as saying "The > solution to swapfile problems is __HAVE_INFINITE_RAM__". No it isn't. Back when I *was* having problems with swapfiles growing endlessly, I had the minimum-size for the swapfile set to 16meg. In reality, though, I was almost always running at 30-40 meg. That's disk space that I really needed to use, it wasn't bugs. Over time that 30-40meg would zoom up to 80-100meg, and I'd have to reboot. So, I decided to change the *minimum* to something more realistic, such as 40meg. By starting out with a more realistic number, my swapfile problems were reduced quite a bit. Note that I didn't *buy* any more resources, I just started out with a better estimate. I know people want to think they'll get buy with 16meg swapfiles, but if they really are using 40meg then they should just provide that much right at the start. > The point is, the machines do have limits, and it's nice when > the OS works to minimize the effects of these limits on the user. Certainly a lot of people would be happier if the swapfile problems were straightened out. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 22 Nov 1994 09:30:22 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov22093022@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> <3ar6lt$eat@digdug.pencom.com> To: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) In-reply-to: robin@pencom.com's message of 21 Nov 1994 22:23:57 GMT >>>>> "RDW" == Robin D Wilson <robin@pencom.com> writes: RDW>In article <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk RDW>(Dave Griffiths) writes: RDW>:In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger RDW><infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: RDW>:>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Nov-94 3.3 Mail, does RDW>:>it have Repl.. by Marc Guenther@cis.uni-mu RDW>:>> Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it RDW>:>> still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! RDW>:>> RDW>:>> What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: RDW>:>> - Click "Reply" RDW>:>> - click "Forward" RDW>:>> - Click inside the message RDW>:>> - CMD-a RDW>:>> - CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) RDW>:>> - select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header RDW>:>> - and delete it. RDW>:> RDW>:>Try: RDW>:> RDW>:>- Command-shift-W RDW>:>- Command-shift-R RDW>:>- TAB RDW>:>- Command-a RDW>:>- Command-shift-> RDW>:> RDW>:>No mouse movements, so it's probably three or four times as fast.... RDW>: RDW>:It's still a lot more than typing 'R' under trn for instance. RDW>: RDW>:It would be easy to write a service to do this if only NeXT allowed services RDW>:with no send or return types. Odd that they don't. RDW>Doesn't the mail app "select" the current message? Can't that be the "send" RDW>type? The return type would obviously be a pre-formatted mail message. Well the send type can be the Mail.app's special pasteboard type that it uses.... -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netscape4X--Wow! Date: 22 Nov 1994 09:31:34 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov22093134@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3as3qk$9o8@clarknet.clark.net> To: ted@clark.net (Ted Okada) In-reply-to: ted@clark.net's message of 22 Nov 1994 06:41:24 GMT GNUS ! :-) -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Can't compile GNU m4 (needed for Sendmail 8.6.9) Message-ID: <Czn771.4D2@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:11:24 GMT I'm trying to install Sendmail 8.6.9 on my slab, and I can't generate a .cf file because it dosen't like NeXT's m4. I grabbed the GNU one (1.4), ran configure, ran make. Went without so much as a warning until it gets to src/builtin.c.... making all in src gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib -g -O m4.c gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.. -I. -I./../lib -g -O builtin.c builtin.c:357: illegal expression, found `__extension__' builtin.c:357: illegal expression, found `int' builtin.c:357: illegal external declaration, found `)' builtin.c:375: illegal expression, found `__extension__' builtin.c:375: illegal expression, found `int' builtin.c:375: illegal expression, found `)' builtin.c:377: illegal expression, found `__extension__' builtin.c:377: illegal expression, found `int' builtin.c:377: illegal external declaration, found `)' builtin.c:378: illegal external declaration, found `if' builtin.c:378: illegal method definition, found `>' builtin.c:378: illegal method definition, missing `{' after `)' builtin.c:378: illegal external declaration, found `if' builtin.c:378: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `void' builtin.c:378: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `*' builtin.c:378: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `void' builtin.c:381: illegal external declaration, found `if' builtin.c:381: illegal method definition, found `>' builtin.c:381: illegal method definition, missing `{' after `)' builtin.c:381: illegal external declaration, found `if' builtin.c:381: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `void' builtin.c:381: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `*' builtin.c:381: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `void' (and so on for about another 50 lines or so...) If I get REALLY stuck I can make the .cf file on a SVR4 box with a working m4, but it'd be really nice to get this to work. :) -- Mike Andrews -- mandrews@wittenberg.edu -- kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXT) "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 21 Nov 1994 22:23:57 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3ar6lt$eat@digdug.pencom.com> References: <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: :In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: :>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Nov-94 3.3 Mail, does :>it have Repl.. by Marc Guenther@cis.uni-mu :>> Does it finally have a Reply function ? From what I've heard, it :>> still doesn't have one, but I just can't believe it ! :>> :>> What I currently do, to reply to a mail I get: :>> - Click "Reply" :>> - click "Forward" :>> - Click inside the message :>> - CMD-a :>> - CMD-SHIFT-> (for Mailhelper, which doesnt exist on Intel or HP) :>> - select the "Begin forwarded message:" and the header :>> - and delete it. :> :>Try: :> :>- Command-shift-W :>- Command-shift-R :>- TAB :>- Command-a :>- Command-shift-> :> :>No mouse movements, so it's probably three or four times as fast.... : :It's still a lot more than typing 'R' under trn for instance. : :It would be easy to write a service to do this if only NeXT allowed services :with no send or return types. Odd that they don't. Doesn't the mail app "select" the current message? Can't that be the "send" type? The return type would obviously be a pre-formatted mail message. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 22 Nov 1994 11:54:52 GMT Organization: Berlin University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aslql$gdc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <3ap2vm$e30@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk's message of 21 Nov 1994 04:08:38 MET In article <3ap2vm$e30@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: Incidentally, quite apart from the memory leak, I disagree quite strongly with the statement that in ``reasonable'' applications the feature of deflating the swapfile is not needed. I run Mathematica and view images in ImageViewer all the time, and I see them as perfectly reasonable applications. Yet I have to reboot every time soon after I am finished. I thought the whole point of NeXT was that it was convenient to use, and having to reboot all the time convenient is not. Are you trying to tell me that Mach is keeping 300MB worth of empty space on my hard disk forever - unless I reboot - just in case it might need it again? If you run Imageviewer and Mathematica all the time the os WILL need the 300MB soon again. So why rebooting? I think either NeXT is going to fix the problems with its memory management soon, or else they will go down in history as their own little version of the MS-DOS 640k barrier. Ok, it would be nice if NEXTSTEP had the (working) feature of a shrinking swapfile. But do you know of any other os that already has? All the UNIXes I know of use FIXED partitions to swap on. So NEXTSTEP is already in advance, since the swapfile can at least grow to the desired size. Greetings Bastian -- Bastian Schlueter TEL.: +49 030 / 314 25 973 (uni) Fehrbellinerstr. 39 0172/311 66 41 (priv) __o D-10119 Berlin _`\<,_ Germany e-mail: buzz@cs.TU-Berlin.DE (_)/ (_)
From: rspence@rmii.com (Robert L. Spence) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Acrobat? Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 18:29:08 -0700 Organization: Fitzsimons Army Medical Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <rspence-2111941829080001@slip151.rmii.com> References: <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov> In article <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov (David R. Quarrie) wrote: > Is there an Acrobat viewer for NEXTSTEP? > Tailor 2.0 also works for .PDF files, although the hypertext links are disabled. If someone tells you otherwise or knows of an Adobe product for NEXTSTEP, please let me know! -- Robert L. Spence 1LT, U.S. Army NREMT-A Fitzsimons Army Medical Center rspence@rmii.com
From: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: perl and nextmail Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:48:31 -0800 Organization: YoyoDyne Propulsion Systems Message-ID: <3arilf$5bm@crl.crl.com> Some time ago I recall hearing about a perl script that ripped apart incoming NeXTMail into its component parts, and forwarded it depending on the contents of headers in the message. I can't recall the name, and looking on ftp.cs.orst.edu doesn't show any likely candidates. Does anybody remember this? -- Don McGregor | "Let us begin therefore, by laying aside facts, mcgredo@crl.com| for they do not affect the question." --JJR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: [Intel] Soundcards and SoftPC Organization: Madge Networks Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:01:59 GMT Message-ID: <CzM3vC.CwK@madge1.demon.co.uk> References: <3aij5b$3o5@news.bu.edu> don@fenway.col.com wrote: : Has anyone gotten a soundcard to work under SoftPC? I have a ProAudio : Spectrum card but it isn't recognized in SoftPC. From what I can tell from : the online help it's supposed to be possible. Am I wrong? I'm afraid you are. Unix, unlike DOS, doesn't allow applications (like SoftPC) to talk to any old piece of hardware you plug in. For security reasons, applications talk to the OS, not the hardware. In general, you need to have a Unix (well in this case NEXTSTEP) driver, for the piece of hardware you want to use. "Ha!", you say. "I do have a NEXTSTEP driver for my ProAudio Spectrum!". The problem is that the ProAudio Spectrum driver running under SoftPC expects to be talking direct to the hardware, not to an OS software interface, so it still doesn't work. There are two ways that it can be made to work, but I'm afraid neither will help you. The first is for Insignia to write a special DOS side driver that looks like e.g. a SoundBlaster, but actually talks to the NEXTSTEP sound driver.This is what they already do for devices like the hard disk, the comms ports, and most of the time for the display. The other is for NeXT to open up a hole in the protective wall, just big enough for you to get to the Pro Audio Spectrum, and it alone. I would imagine that raises all sorts of awful possibilities. Mike. -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? In-Reply-To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Mon, 21 Nov 1994 08:10:17 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov21105709@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 15:57:09 GMT In article <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: It's still a lot more than typing 'R' under trn for instance. Of course if you have the mailapp utilities, you can just type 'R' in gnus and up pops a nice Mail.app compose window with the proper recipient, subject and quoted text. Brilliant piece of work, those utilities. :) It would be easy to write a service to do this if only NeXT allowed services with no send or return types. Odd that they don't. I agree. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Message-ID: <CzMqon.M8r@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <3alofu$qla@nntp.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 18:14:46 GMT In article <3alofu$qla@nntp.stanford.edu>, Todd Takken <takken@leland.stanford.edu> wrote: >Amen. I also need a reply function much much more than all this fancy >searching and sorting. I wasn't planning on upgrading. However, if 3.3 >Mail.app has a reply function, I'd probably buy it. Just go get Mynah: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submissions/Mynah.tar.gz -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Subject: DFax Message-ID: <1994Nov22.172420.27982@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Keywords: DFax, SupraFax Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 17:24:20 GMT Anyone has a copy of DFax to sell? Or anybody know how I can reach them? Thank you, Francois -- Francois Magnan magnan@maths1.mathcn.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Subject: Re: PPP-2.2 config help Message-ID: <1994Nov22.135935.7185@leeds.ac.uk> Sender: news@leeds.ac.uk Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 13:59:35 +0000 (GMT) References: <3aqavv$sqt@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: > 2. ifconfig ppp0 inet gatewayIPAddress netmask 255.255.255.0 -trailers up > > 3. route add default gatewayIPAddress 1 Dont do step 2 - this is done automatically if you are running 2.2, pppd is in charge of the interface. Use the defaultroute option to avoid having to do step 3 as well. When the negoptiation finished then the ppp0 interface should be marked as up with a connection to the appropriate machine at the far end. At this point you should be able to ping the far end machine. If that doesn't work then nothing else will. Your hostconfig should have the machine setup as a standalone box if you are using the ppp interface as a default route - unless you also have some kind of local network of course. On my setup I use the options : pppd lock connect 'chat -f script' netmask 255.255.254.0 modem -as a0000 escape ff mru 552 bsdcomp 15 /dev/cua 19200 The asyncmaps remove #FF, XON and XOFF as I connect over a telnet connection. The netmask and locking are all done by pppd. This works fine. I don't add a default route as I have a local ethernet. NB: 2.2 is alpha release software, you should really be directing these questions to whoever you are testing it for as it is quite possible that your version has bugs. -bat.
From: westbrad@holmes.sgate.com (Brad West) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb and helper application specification Date: 22 Nov 1994 14:47:30 GMT Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <3at0a2$lts@holmes.sgate.com> How does one identify helper applications for OmniWeb? I've looked around through the menus and can't find anything that will let me link filename suffixes to apps. Also, I'd like to know if there's any way to open an application from a hotlink. Specifically, I want to give users access to WAIS sources but I don't want to have to write an entire WAIS interface in HTML. I'd like to launch WAIStation for them. Thanks for any help. -brad
From: tengel@monk.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Speeding up NeXTIME on the ND (was Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support...) Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:03:38 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3atprq$45c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> In article <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) writes: > I'm following up to one of my own posts, where I was wondering about > the advantage of doing NeXTIME decompression on the ND board rather than .. > Therefore, it would seem possible to get good NeXTIME performance out > of an ND if the decompression takes place on the ND itself. My next > question then is: can the i860 do it? I don't see why not, but maybe > I'm missing something important. Personally, I would even accept some > performance loss at other tasks (dragging color windows around, etc.) > while the ND is busy playing NeXTIME. > > Any comments from the ND experts? > > Jean > --- > lagarde@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (NeXT mail accepted) > voice: (619) 939-4852 > fax: (619) 939-4851 NeXT won't do that. Nobody pays for it....... :-( They don't want to spent time on optimizing any new code for the ND. Aloha Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach Germany
From: dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cleaning up tiff scans Date: 22 Nov 1994 16:00:25 GMT Organization: National Renewable Energy Laboratory Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3at4ip$6cm@nrel.nrel.gov> Keywords: eraser, tiff Greetings, Can anyone point me to a public domain or shareware product which permits simple clean-up of scanned tiff images (e.g., a simple eraser block which will blot out blemishes or intrusions in a scan)? --I find that my otherwise relatively sophisticated scanning software lacks this elementary feature, and I'm frustrated (but not enough to pay big bucks for it). It's galling to have to use a Mac do do this. I can run it under X-Windows, if such a product is available. Yes, I know, I could in principle occlude the blemishes with opaque white blocks in, say, Draw, and save the result as a new tiff, but this seems like a lot of work for what should be a *simple* procedure... Icon.app (patched to run under OS 3.0) fails, after aeons, to save the modified tiff. If none such exists, what relatively inexpensive *commercial* product will do such tiff touch-ups? Many thanks! David M. Wood -- David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510 Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:35:17 GMT To: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov21191744@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <CEDMAN.94Nov20133517@freedom.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:17:43 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Nov20133517@freedom.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: In article <3alln8$ffn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: Please tell me, that I'm totally wrong, and 3.3 Mail already has the Reply feature. Actually there is a fairly simple way to add a Reply feature to any Mail.app, at least if you have the mailapp utilities and TickleServices (both of which are available from your nearest ftp site). Here is the service I wrote a few years ago for that purpose. With this you just select the message you want to reply to, hit 'cmd-R' and up pops a nice compose window with the properly pruned and quoted text. You ignorant fool ! Don't you test what you post before bothering thousands of people with your broken code ? Do you really think that by costing the net millions of dollars in wasted time and effort you can compensate for your lack of talent ? Your posting privileges should be suspended ! Here try this complete TickleService. _It_ works. Carl Edman --------------- /LocalLibrary/TickleServices/MyMail.ts --------------------- # Begin TickleServices Version 1.02mab Data "Divider" = "196.000000"; "Menu Item" = "!Initialization!"; "Tcl" = "\ # This version of exec doesn't strip the trailing newline from th\ e # output. proc nexec {args} { set fileId [uplevel open [list [format \"|%s\" $args]]] set ret [read $fileId] close $fileId return $ret } # Reads the specified file and returns the text. proc readfile {filename {hexcode 0}} { set fileId [open $filename r] if {$hexcode} { set ret [read -hexcode $fileId] } else { set ret [read $fileId] } close $fileId return $ret } # Writes the text to the specified file. proc writefile {filename text {hexcode 0}} { set fileId [open $filename w] if {$hexcode} { set ret [puts -nonewline -hexcode $fileId $text] } else { set ret [puts -nonewline $fileId $text] } close $fileId return $ret } # read the quoteString from the defaults database. The quoteStri\ ng # defaults to \">\", which is a semi-standard quoting character. global quoteString set quoteString [defaults read TickleServices QuoteString \">\"] # Ditto for the maximum length of text lines global lineLength set lineLength [defaults read Mail LineLength 72] proc prepend {str prefix} { set str [string trimright \"\\n$str\" \"\\n\"] regsub -all \"\\n\" $str \"\\n[escape $prefix {\\\\&\\[\\]}]\" st\ r return \"[string range $str 1 end]\\n\" } proc unprepend {str prefix} { set str \"\\n$str\" regsub -all \"\\n[escape $prefix {\\\\&\\[\\]}]\" $str \"\\n\" st\ r return [string range $str 1 end] } proc refmt {str ll} { set out \"\" set pos 0 set prefix \"\" regsub -all \"\\t\" $str \" \" str foreach line [split [string trim $str \"\\n\"] \"\\n\"] { regexp \"^(\\[ >\\]*)(.*)$\" $line line nprefix text if {$prefix!=$nprefix} { if {$pos!=0} {append out \"\\n\"} set prefix $nprefix set pos 0 } if {$text==\"\"} { if {$pos!=0} {append out \"\\n\"} append out \"$prefix\\n\" set pos 0 continue } foreach word [split $text \" \"] { if {$pos==0 || $pos+1+[string length $word] >= $ll} { if {$word==\"\"} continue if {$pos>0} {append out \"\\n\"} append out $prefix set pos [string length $prefix] append out $word incr pos [string length $word] } else { append out \" \" incr pos append out $word incr pos [string length $word] } } } if {$pos!=0} { append out \"\\n\" } return $out } # This is a dis-gusting procedure to convert a Text-style RTF # string with attachments into a Mail2.1-style RTF string with # attachments. The basic problem this routine solves is that # where Edit stores attachments as # {...{\\NeXTGraphic# attachmentName \\width# \\height#\\n}..\ .}, # Mail stores them as {{\\attachment# attachmentName\\n}\\n}. # The attachmentName and the first # (which gives the position # of the attachment in the text) must be extracted and placed # in their new home. Furthermore, the attachmentName must be # expanded to and absolute pathname. proc convertRTF2x {textStyle filename} { set addin 0 while {[regexp \"{\\[^{\\]*{\\\\\\\\NeXTGraphic(\\[0-9\\]*) (\\[^\ \\n\\]*) \\\\\\\\width\\[0-9\\]* \\\\\\\\height\\[0-9\\]*\\n}\\[^}\\]\ *}\" $textStyle directive position attachment]} { set esc [escape $directive \"|*+?.^\\$\\\\\\[\\]\"] # Add in an adjustment because Edit counts the graphic # as a character, whereas Mail does not, so the Edit # position must be adjusted downward for each graphic. incr position $addin incr addin -1 set rep [escape \"{{\\\\attachment$position $filename/$attachment\\n\ }\\n}\" \"\\\\&\"] if {![regsub -all $esc $textStyle $rep textStyle]} { # It _must_ have replaced a directive, since we # found one. This is an attempt to prevent infinite # loops caused by never replacing what we found in # regexp. error \"Unable to process RTF directive\" } } return $textStyle } proc convertRTF30 {textStyle filename} { regsub -all \"({\\\\\\\\NeXTGraphic\\[0-9\\]* *)(\\[^\\n\\]* \\\\\ \\\\width\\[0-9\\]* \\\\\\\\height\\[0-9\\]*\\n})\" $textStyle \"\\\\\ 1$filename/\\\\2\" textStyle return $textStyle } proc convertRTF {textStyle filename} { return $textStyle }"; "Window Size" = "{ 728.000, 364.000}"; | "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Deliver"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Call sendmail to write the passed data to the user's mailbox. if {![info exists whoami]} { set whoami [exec /usr/ucb/whoami] } exec /usr/lib/sendmail $whoami << [pasteboard read] "; | "Key Equivalent" = "F"; "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Format Text"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Reformat the selection to less than $lineLength columns. pasteboard write [refmt [pasteboard read] $lineLength] "; | "Key Equivalent" = "I"; "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Insert Signature"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Receive Type" = "NXRTFPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Return text of ASCII and/or RTF signature file. # Get the signature file default set asciiSigFile [defaults read TickleServices SignatureFile ~/.signa\ ture] if {[file exists $asciiSigFile]} { set asciiSig \"---\\n[readfile [glob $asciiSigFile]]\" } else { set asciiSig \"\" } set rtfSigFile [defaults read TickleServices RTFSignatureFile ~/.sign\ ature.rtf] if {[file exists $rtfSigFile]} { if {[file isdirectory $rtfSigFile]} { set rtfSig [convertRTF [readfile $rtfSigFile/TXT.rtf] $rtfSigFile\ ] puts stdout $rtfSig } else { set rtfSig [readfile [glob $rtfSigFile]] } } else { set rtfSig \"\" } if {$rtfSig!=\"\" && $asciiSig!=\"\"} { pasteboard declare $NXRTFPboardType $NXAsciiPboardType pasteboard write $rtfSig $NXRTFPboardType pasteboard write $asciiSig $NXAsciiPboardType } elseif {$rtfSig!=\"\"} { pasteboard write $rtfSig $NXRTFPboardType } elseif {$asciiSig!=\"\"} { pasteboard write $asciiSig $NXAsciiPboardType } else { alertpanel {Insert Signature} \"Unable to find `$asciiSigFile' or `\ $rtfSigFile'.\" } "; | "Key Equivalent" = ">"; "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Quote Text"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Quote the selection with the default quoteString. See !Initializat\ ion! # for info on quoteString. pasteboard write [refmt [prepend [pasteboard read] $quoteString] $lin\ eLength] "; | "Key Equivalent" = "R"; "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Reply Text"; "Send Type" = "NeXTmail Message pasteboard type"; "Tcl" = "\ set mail [exec /usr/bin/rtf-ascii << [pasteboard read $NXRTFPboardTyp\ e]] set pos [string first \"\\n\\n\" $mail] set header \"\\n[string range $mail 0 [expr {$pos}]]\" regexp \"\\nFrom: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null from regexp \"\\nSubject: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null subject if {[regexp \"^R\\[Ee\\]: \" $subject]==0} { set subject \"Re: $subje\ ct\" } exec /usr/local/bin/nextmail -e -s \"$subject\" $from << [refmt [prep\ end [string range $mail [expr {$pos+2}] end] $quoteString] $lineLengt\ h] "; | "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Set Quote String"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Set the default quoteString. # In general quote strings shouldn't contain newlines. if {[string first \"\\n\" [pasteboard read]]!=-1} { if {[alertpanel \"Set Quote String\" \"Selected quote string cont\ ains one or more newlines. Are you certain you wish to use this quot\ e string?\" \"Cancel\" \"OK\"]==1} { return } } # Set the current value, and also the default for future use. set quoteString [pasteboard read] defaults write TickleServices QuoteString $quoteString "; | "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Set Signature"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXRTFPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Set the signature. if {[lindex [pasteboard types] 0]==$NXRTFPboardType} { set sigFile [defaults read TickleServices RTFSignatureFile ~/.sign\ ature.rtf] set sigType $NXRTFPboardType } else { set sigFile [defaults read TickleServices SignatureFile ~/.signatu\ re] set sigType $NXAsciiPboardType } # Get the signature file default and glob it to make it absolute. set globFile [glob $sigFile] # Give the user a last change before overwriting the file. if {[file exists $globFile]} { if {[alertpanel {Set Signature} \"Overwrite current signature in \ $sigFile?\" {OK} {Cancel}]!=1} { return } # Still, what if they might want it back? Back it up. catch {exec mv $globFile $globFile~} } # Write the signature file from the pasteboard. writefile $globFile [pasteboard read $sigType] "; | "Key Equivalent" = "<"; "Menu Item" = "MyMail/Unquote Text"; "Receive Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Unquote the selection with the default quoteString. See !Initializ\ ation! # for info on quoteString. pasteboard write [refmt [unprepend [pasteboard read] $quoteString] $l\ ineLength] "; # End TickleServices Data
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 22 Nov 1994 10:35:13 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411221634.AA00614@cantina.lanl.gov> In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Try: > >- Command-shift-W >- Command-shift-R >- TAB >- Command-a >- Command-shift-> No one seems to have mentioned yet that the "Command-shift->" doesn't work, for me at least, on NS3.2/Moto. (It does on my NS3.2/Intel.) I wrote to Chuck to ask how he found "Command-shift->", since I couldn't find in Mail.app's menus or Help. He replied that it came from something called MailHelper.app. So, I must have MailHelper somewhere on my Intel machine, but I sure don't remember installing such a thing and I also can't find it. So, I remain a little puzzled. -- Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. Vox: 505-662-7309 (or 667-5253) Fax: 505-662-7601 e-mail: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Driver for Canon CJ-10 ColorPrinter? Date: 22 Nov 1994 18:04:56 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3atbs8$2gs@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3ar073$ire@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <3ar073$ire@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes: :We have a Canon CJ-10 ColorPrinter and are looking for driver software. :It seems like a German branch of HSD who had a driver went out of business. :Is there anyone who uses a CJ-10 who could give us some info? : The Dots family of drivers supports a wide range of different printers. Below is more information on Dots. Call OpenSource if you have any quesitons. Dots A generic printer driver that allows you to connect non-PostScript printers to NEXTSTEP computers. Dots uses NEXTSTEP's Display PostScript to generate high-quality output. Serial and parallel interfaces are both supported. Printers connected with Dots are available throughout the network. The Dots package supports a wide range of printers. Licences are sold based on the cost and quality of the printer. Prices range from $149 for monochrome printers to $1,199 for Color Laser Copiers. For non-NeXT hardware, an additional PostScript output license must be purchased. Dots currently supports the following printers: HP LaserJet and compatibles (Series II, III and 4) HP DeskJet 500/510 HP DeskJet 500C/550C HP DeskJet 1200C HP PaintJet XL/XL300 HP DesignJet 600/650 Seiko PhotoMaker and Mitsubishi Shinko Dye-Sub Printers Canon CJ10 Color Copier (including scan module) Canon CLC300 and CLC500 Color Copiers (including scan module) Price $149 - $1,199 (Call for price on correct driver for your printer model) Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer F. Heinz Consultora To Order OpenSource, Inc. 1-800-TRY-OPEN order@opensource.com --- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions reflect positively or negatively on me only!
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Date: 22 Nov 1994 20:32:23 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3atkgn$gsv@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3atggh$s9n@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> In article <3atggh$s9n@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu (Ron Wood) writes: > Is there mosaic server for NS black? I'm looking for something like httpd. How about httpd---it works fine. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax and 8data bits Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:52:10 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have NXfax running on a NeXT 040 Cube running NeXTStep 3.1. I can only get 7data bit data connections. Trying to use 8 data bits w/ no parity gives me this .... CONNECT 38400 NeXT / NXFax (ido) (ttydfa) ido login: csmith Password: Last login: Tue Nov 22 15:07:04 on ttydfa You have mail. (garbage 8bit to 7bit translation of shell prompt) more garbage, etc...... I am calling from a NeXT Station with a Zyxell 1496E to a Cube with another Zyxell 1496E. I have done an "at&v0" on both modems to check their settings, and both are set to use 8 data bits, no parity. Also, the /etc/gettytab file has the following lines. default:\ :zp:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\ :er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :sp#38400: and NXFaxA:zp:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#38400: Anybody have any suggestions? Chris
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:53:03 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov22215303@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> <CEDMAN.94Nov21105709@freedom.princeton.edu> To: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 21 Nov 1994 15:57:09 GMT >>>>> "CE" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes: CE>In article <1994Nov21.081017.438@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: CE> It's still a lot more than typing 'R' under trn for instance. CE>Of course if you have the mailapp utilities, you can just type 'R' in CE>gnus and up pops a nice Mail.app compose window with the proper CE>recipient, subject and quoted text. Brilliant piece of work, those CE>utilities. :) You bet... I think you're wasting your time recommending Emacs solutions to Dave though :-) -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: lena3@vaxa.mdx.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: COMPUTER GAMING SURVEY Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:02:28 GMT Organization: Middlesex University, London, England Message-ID: <3atf84$1n2@beta.qmw.ac.uk> Computer Gaming Survey ______________________ ---------------------- Could you please take time to answer our questions about computer games, for a survey we are conducting. Thank you. NB Questions can be answered by either the following format:- 1a, 2e, 3a, ... and so on until completion of question 12. Or Edit it by just marking a *** next to the correct answer for you ie:- 1) Are you? a) ***Male b) Female Details of where to send your answers are given at the end of this file. AND THERE'S MORE ... ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ****** ****** ************* ***************************** ************* **** **** *** ** * *** *** ** ** ******* * *** *** *** ** ** ** *** ** *** ***** ** ** *** *** ** *** *** *** *** *********** *** *** ** ********* *** ** *** **** *** *** ************ * **** ** ********** *** ** ***** *** *** ********* ***** *** *** *** ** ** ****** *** *** ************** ****** ********* ** *** ** *** ****** **** ************** ****** ********* ** *** ** **** ****** ***** ******* ****** *** **** *** **** ****** ****** ******* ****** *** ****************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** 1) Are you? a) Male b) Female 2) How old are you? a) under 12 b) 12 - 14 c) 15 - 17 d) 18 - 20 e) 21 - 23 f) 24 - 29 g) 30 - 39 h) 40 - 49 i) Over 50 3) Do you have a computer? a) Yes b) No 4) If yes then is it a? a) An IBM compatible PC b) MAC c) Amiga/ST d) Console e) Some other (i.e. 8 bit like com 64) 5) How long have you had your machine? a) Less than 6 months b) 6 months to 1 year c) Between 1 & 2 years d) Between 2 & 4 years e) Between 4 & 6 years e) Over 6 years 6) How long have you been using computers? a) Less than 6 months b) 6 months to 1 year b) Between 1 & 2 years d) Between 2 & 4 years e) Between 4 & 6 years f) Between 6 & 10 years g) Over 10 years 7) If you had another computer previously then was it a? a) An IBM compatible PC b) MAC c) Amiga/ST d) Console e) Some other (i.e. 8 bit like com 64) 8) What types of software do you spend alot of money on? a) Business b) Applications c) Games d) Other 9) Do you like computer games? a) Yes b) No 10) What type of game do you most like to play? a) Role-playing b) Puzzle c) Adventure d) Beat-em-up e) Simulations f) Platform g) Strategy h) Shoot-em-up i) Car Racing j) Sports k) Other 11) How much do you spend on games per year in pounds (dollars)? a) Up to œ30 ($40) b) œ30 ($45) - œ60 ($90) c) œ60 ($90) - œ90 ($135) d) œ90 ($135) - œ120 ($180) e) œ120 ($180) - œ160 ($225) f) œ160 ($225) - œ200 ($300) g) œ200 ($300) - œ400 ($600) h) Over œ400 ($600) 12) Approximately how many games do you purchase per year? a) 0 - 2 b) 3 - 5 c) 6 - 9 d) 10 - 14 e) 15 - 25 f) Over 25 Could you please forward your answers to one of the following addresses:- Cecil@mdx.ac.uk or Antoni1@mdx.ac.uk or Colin7@mdx.ac.uk or Myself:- Lena3@mdx.ac.uk THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HELP IN ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS IN THIS SURVEY FOR OUR PROJECT.
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax and 8data bits Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:25:47 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3atr5b$4o@portal.gmu.edu> References: <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Never mind, I have solved the problem After reading the man pages on getty, I read the man pages on gettytab. Then I read man on tty. Then I started reading every man page referenced by any of the other man pages. Eventually, I read the man page on login. --excerpt from "man login" After a successful login, accounting files are updated and the user is informed of the existence of mail. The message of the day is printed, as is the time of his last login. Both are suppressed if he has a ".hushlogin" file in his home directory; this is mostly used to make life easier for non-human users, such as uucp. Login initializes the user and group IDs and the working directory, then executes a command interpreter (usually csh(1)) according to specifications found in a password file. Argument 0 of the command interpreter is the name of the command interpreter with a leading dash ("-"). Well, I was getting a good report of mail when logging in with 8 data bits, so the problem was post-mailcheck. I made a motd. It read ok. So it wasn't motd. So we come to the shell. I run tcsh. I changed me shell to csh. No more problem. So, tcsh (or at least my compile of tcsh) is not 8 bit clean. Sigh Thanks for your help. Add this to your database of suggestions. Christian Smith csmith@gmu.edu http://www.ido.gmu.edu/~csmith
From: ron@aslan.math.hmc.edu (Ron Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WWW Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:24:01 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3atggh$s9n@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> Keywords: http mosaic Is there mosaic server for NS black? I'm looking for something like httpd.
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAT version of MailCall or other similar app Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:53:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ati7c$ke1@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Howdy, Does anybody have a FAT (or intel) version of MailCall? It is a utility that notifies you of incoming mail. The problem with NeXTMail (and the manual button) is that once you read your mail (in a possibly different mail reader) you have to open NeXTMail and hit the retrieve button to get the icon to reset. Any pointers greatly appreciated. - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: running trn locally with remote news server Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:35:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <3ath55$cf7@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <3ar0s9$jma@jake.bga.com> Bill Tschumy (btschumy@bga.com) wrote: : I would like to run trn to read my news locally while connected to a : news server vai SLIP. Use tin. Compiles relatively clean, and works great with remote NNTP server. -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: daniel@dgbt.doc.ca (Daniel Lauzon) Subject: StereoScope Message-ID: <1994Nov22.231538.13514@dgbt.doc.ca> Keywords: Stereo Vision Sender: news@dgbt.doc.ca (News user) Organization: The Communications Research Centre Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 23:15:38 GMT I got a copy of StereoScope-3.2.app.tar.Z off of orst, but it is a Motorola only distribution. Does anyone know where either the source or an Intel compiled copy can be found? Thanks, Daniel --- Daniel Lauzon daniel@dgbt.doc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (Keith Thomas Sherry (Mr Toad)) Subject: Oracle and Next Message-ID: <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:20:22 GMT I'm look for a third party package that will allow me to hit on an Oracle Database. Specifically the drivers that will allow me to communicate with Oracle from the NEXT. -- Keith Thomas Sherry Director of Publicity Information Systems Association ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <3asdg4$ofk@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3asdg4$ofk@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 22 Nov 1994 11:43:17 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3atajl$r2@cobber.cord.edu> <3asdg4$ofk@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AFS and NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 23 Nov 1994 05:44:20 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aukrk$9bu@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3au4q1$iap@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes > I've heard rumours that 3.3 does *not* work with AFS, but haven't > been able to definitively verify those. If this does turn out > to be true, does anyone know if the 3.3 Mail.app works with > 3.2? (I would hate to give up AFS...) I know for certain that Mail 3.3 does work with 3.2, and I will install AFS on my machine tonight to see what happens :-) Stan -- +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ | Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | "Forty-two!" yelled | | SU Computer Science | Loonquawl. "Is that all | | Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 4396 | you've got to show for | | stanj@cs.stanford.edu | seven and a half | | NeXTmail / MIME anytime welcome! | million years' work?" | +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3ateo5$2ct@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3ateo5$2ct@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 22 Nov 1994 12:58:45 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3atf15$2e5@cobber.cord.edu> <3ateo5$2ct@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu> Control: cancel <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu> Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:26:22 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3atr6e$4o@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <3asd2v$ocg@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3asd2v$ocg@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 22 Nov 1994 03:20:15 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3asd4f$ocu@cobber.cord.edu> <3asd2v$ocg@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doug@demeter.ucsd.edu (Doug Ridgway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX for NSFIP? How bout InstantTeX? Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:51:48 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3av3bl$1io@network.ucsd.edu> References: <3aj9rf$1hhb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Ian Wittmeyer writes > > Hi, > > Do YOU have TeX/LaTeX running on NS/Intel? If so, what did you do? > Did I miss something or was TeX not bundled with NS3.2? You missed something, it should be there. NextCD/Packages/NeXTTeX.pkg My question is, is InstantTeX available for intel? The only version I found on the archives is black only. If not, it's a real loss for those of us with with white hardware. InstantTeX is great... Maybe Dmitri Linde could be found and made to compile it fat. doug dridgway@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel) Subject: Re: Ugly Icons in 3.3... Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 13:21:14 GMT Message-ID: <3avfka$15n@colossus.PFM-Mainz.DE> References: <3alnt5$fqk@news.bu.edu> Sender: news@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE (news of pfm) In article <3alnt5$fqk@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > Uh... a stupid question, but one that's important to me. If I can't > have the black hardware sitting on my desk, then I at least want > to look at a cool little shaded reminder of it as my root directory. > The 3.3 white icons are hideous. > > So to ask a stupid question... is there anything preventing me from > dumping 'em and re-installing some of the 3.2 black icons, or > have they suddenly been integrated into the binaries for the > .apps like I believe terminal is (the root icon is just a root.tiff > under /usr/lib/NextStep/etc....) > Replacing /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/root.tiff had no effect on my machine. But you can simply place a black hardware ".dir.tiff" in the root directory. You can replace the white application icons too by using segedit. As root: segedit NameOfTheApp -replace __ICON app NewTiff.tiff** -o xxx; mv xxx NameOfTheApp* NameOfTheApp = e.g. /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal NewTiff.tiff = replace this with name and directory of any tiff from your collection (to get the black tiff from Terminal.app, you have to use "segedit /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -extract __ICON app /terminal.tiff", which will place a tiff called terminal.tiff in the root directory). Don't forget to make a security copy (!) of the app before... -- David Andel (WiNG) @aBlackNeXT
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 22 Nov 1994 18:34:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3atdk8$kmu@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3aslql$gdc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter) writes: > ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: > > Incidentally, quite apart from the memory leak, I disagree > quite strongly with the statement that in ``reasonable'' > applications the feature of deflating the swapfile is not > needed. I run Mathematica and view images in ImageViewer all > the time, and I see them as perfectly reasonable applications. > Yet I have to reboot every time soon after I am finished. I > thought the whole point of NeXT was that it was convenient to > use, and having to reboot all the time convenient is not. Are > you trying to tell me that Mach is keeping 300MB worth of > empty space on my hard disk forever - unless I reboot - just > in case it might need it again? > > If you run Imageviewer and Mathematica all the time the os WILL need > the 300MB soon again. So why rebooting? The problem is that the amount used keeps growing (for some people, in some situations). Nothing is *using* that memory, it's just disappearing. Sooner or later you have to reboot. > I think either NeXT is going to fix the problems with its > memory management soon, or else they will go down in history > as their own little version of the MS-DOS 640k barrier. > > Ok, it would be nice if NEXTSTEP had the (working) feature of a > shrinking swapfile. But do you know of any other os that already > has? All the UNIXes I know of use FIXED partitions to swap on. > So NEXTSTEP is already in advance, since the swapfile can at > least grow to the desired size. The problem is not whether the swapfile ever shrinks, the problem that for some people (in some circumstances) the file always grows. Ie, it is a bug. Other operating systems do not seem to have this bug, so that fixed partition works reasonably well for them. In the case of Omni's ImageViewer program, this turned out to be due to a mixup in the code (this was discovered earlier in one of these recent threads on swapfile behavior). Future versions of that program should not aggravate the ever-increasing swapfile problem. The mixup is subtle enough that I wonder if other programs (such as Mathematica) are running into the same thing. The problem is that if you do an NXMapFile() setup a stream, then to "free up" that stream you need to do a NXCloseMemory(stream, NX_FREEBUFFER); instead of using the plain NXClose routine. Aside from bugs like that, which one could claim is a bug in the program (or maybe in some NeXTSTEP documentation), there seem to be other bugs that are more definitely in the operating system itself. I believe Cliff Matthew wrote a pretty clear program that demonstrated that bug, though I can't seem to find the usenet article that had that program in it. Perhaps someone could contact the guys at Mathematica and have them check their NXMapFile usage. In any case, it'd be nice if NeXT could pick up Cliff's program and figure out why the system behaves the way it does for that program. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: helmut@nero.novalis.pub.sub.org (Helmut Spethling) Subject: problem with serial port Message-ID: <1994Nov23.110057.7011@myhost.uucp> Sender: helmut@myhost.uucp Organization: Softwaredesign Spethling Helmut Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 11:00:57 GMT Hi, I want my NeXTstation to talk to another computer on the serial line. The other computer understands data only in the form: 8 Bit data + 1 even parity + 1 stopbit. With several ioctl() I got 7 bit data + 1 parity + 1 stopbit or 8 bit data + no parity + 1 stopbit. With tcsetattr() it should be possible, but then I can't use the AppKit. Thanks for any help! ------------------------------------------------------- Spethling Helmut Hear what the old cat says: Softwaredesign have breakfast, when you ve got the mouse Kleiststra e 2 87700 Memmingen +49 8331 64189 helmut@nero.bb.bawue.de NeXT-Mail ok
From: waldemar.lysz@ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: AFS and NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:53:10 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3atsom$ebv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Is there anybody out there running NeXTSTEP 3.3 with Transarc's AFS 3.2 or 3.3 ? Transarc supports only NeXTSTEP 3.0 login.app, however it has worked fine with NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.2 . Any information would be appreciated . -- ============================================================================= Waldemar D. Lysz | University of Alberta waldemar_lysz@ualberta.ca | Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-9306 | System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 | #144 General Services Building | Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1
From: ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs.app and info files Date: 24 Nov 1994 00:32:52 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <3b0jf4$3sh@comet.uni-paderborn.de> Hi In the last days I installed Emacs.app 4.0 on my NeXTstation with NeXTstep 3.2. What a great app Carl !! The situation: Emacs.app comes as a package and while installing with Installer the post_install shell script makes symbolic links from the info files inside Emacs.app to /usr/local/info. Now when I go into the Emacs Info reader I see the standard info directory twice. I think this behaviour is caused by the fact that both locations of the info files (Emacs.app and /usr/local/info) are in the info-file path as default. After temporarily renaming /usr/local/info in something different it works fine. My question is: - Did I miss something ? - What is the best way to solve the problem ? - Where should I install new info files: inside Emacs.app or in /usr/local/info By the way: What are these Emacs.app 4.0 to 4.5 patches ? Is this a beta for Emacs.app based on a newer emacs or are these bugfixes ? -- Ciao, Olli | Oliver Geisser * Steindruefft 11 * 33184 Altenbeken * Germany | | e-mail: ogeisser@uni-paderborn.de * Phone: 05255/7966 | | I prefer ASCII-Mail, but you can also send me NeXT-Mail |
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TickleServices Date: 23 Nov 1994 00:20:03 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3au1rj$duh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Nov21191744@freedom.princeton.edu> TickleServices doesn't appear to be upgraded to work with 3.2. I found it in sonata under 2.0 release. Is that the right one?? Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AFS and NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 23 Nov 1994 01:10:24 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3au4q1$iap@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3atsom$ebv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <3atsom$ebv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> waldemar.lysz@ualberta.ca writes: > > Is there anybody out there running NeXTSTEP 3.3 with Transarc's AFS 3.2 or 3.3 > ? Transarc supports only NeXTSTEP 3.0 login.app, however it has worked fine > with NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.2 . Any information would be appreciated . I've heard rumours that 3.3 does *not* work with AFS, but haven't been able to definitively verify those. If this does turn out to be true, does anyone know if the 3.3 Mail.app works with 3.2? (I would hate to give up AFS...) --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Re: Acrobat? Message-ID: <1994Nov23.204809.23098@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 20:48:09 GMT In article <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov> DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov (David R. Quarrie) writes: >Is there an Acrobat viewer for NEXTSTEP? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Lab MS 50B-3238 > (NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road >Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov Berkeley, CA 94720 >DECnet : lbl::drquarrie Tel: (510) 486-4868 Adobe does not have a PDF file viewer for NEXTSTEP. The only NEXTSTEP app I know of that allows one to view PDF documents is Tailor 2.0; however, it does not provide a number of features found in the Adobe Acrobat products (like the ability to use hypertext links). Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: auofaq@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.usenet.offline-reader Subject: Re: Offline mail readers, recommendations? Message-ID: <941123.085510.6Z6.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:55:10 -0700 References: <3ap22u$8vh@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Followup-To: alt.usenet.offline-reader Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) writes: > Can anyone tell me where to get a good offline mail reader? My service's > mail system is pine, and I'm on original black hardware. I'd > prefer a shareware version. Thanks in advance. I know supernet has `uqwk' installed, which means it can generate SOUP packets (which, unlike QWK packets, won't have missing headers, truncated fields, etc.) the only one I show in the FAQ is: slnr ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk slnr ftp.adelaide.edu.au:/pub/news/readers/off-line/slnr/* 802 slnr (simple local news reader) - reader; Unix, msdos, atari; soup however, SOUP mail packets are designed to be similar to Unix mailboxes... -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: book keeping software? Date: 21 Nov 1994 16:13:38 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: pro audio Message-ID: <3aqgvi$hlh@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> In article <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de writes: > Does anybody know, if there is a book keeping software available? > > Thanks, > Marcus QuantiFlow by Sumeris Technology is an outstanding new accounting package. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: TickleServices Message-ID: <1994Nov24.014535.3256@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <SHESS.94Nov22210735@icicle.winternet.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 01:45:35 GMT Scott Hess writes > >TickleServices doesn't appear to be upgraded to work with 3.2. > >I found it in sonata under 2.0 release. Is that the right one?? > > ftp:://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.tar.g z > is the latest, greatest version. It's compiled to run on m68k, i386, > and hppa, and should work for NS3.0, NS3.1, and NS3.2. [And NS3.3, > I should hope!] I've been running it under 3.3 at work. Seems to behave just fine. --- Chris Cuilla Chris Cuilla Design & Development ccuilla@ccdd.com (NeXT mail accepted) -- Chris Cuilla Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX for NSFIP? How bout InstantTeX? Date: 24 Nov 1994 03:26:26 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3b1152$454@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3av3bl$1io@network.ucsd.edu> In article <3av3bl$1io@network.ucsd.edu> doug@demeter.ucsd.edu (Doug Ridgway) writes: > Ian Wittmeyer writes > > My question is, is InstantTeX available for intel? The only version > I found on the archives is black only. If not, it's a real loss for > those of us with with white hardware. InstantTeX is great... > Maybe Dmitri Linde could be found and made to compile it fat. We did get the InstantTeX for Intel for a long time, but I do not know if I can put it on Ftp site, so ... Mark -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- President of NCTU NeXT User Group| Tel : 886-035-712-121 ext 76403 Yi-chih, LIN ( Mark Lin ) | NeXTmail: Communication Engineering | u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University | mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw Hsinchu, Taiwan | NCTU 6 Dorm 403 Room -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney) Subject: Re: Speeding up NeXTIME on the ND (was Re: NeXTTIME -- does it support...) Message-ID: <Czr85M.DM9@research.canon.oz.au> Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia References: <lagardeCzL74K.EJL@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 04:22:34 GMT lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) writes: >Well, I checked what I have on the NeXTbus, and it seems that current >performance of the bus varies between about 3.5MB/s for one-word, >non-burst transfers, to about 14.5MB/s for sustained burst transfers. Unfortunately, what the documentation won't tell you is that there's a hardware problem with the NBIC chip which prevents cache-generated bursts across the NeXTbus from working correctly. The only way to generate functional bursts to the NextDimension board is by explicitly using move16; but Next didn't do that, so NextStep only ever generates single word transfers across the NeXTbus to the NextDimension board. Considering how much faster burst access can transfer large amounts of data, this is rather unfortunate. regards, Graham
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PNI-1.13 modify servertype script Date: 23 Nov 1994 20:38:46 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <3b15cm$3hj@runner.uucp> Summary: How modify TransSys PNI-1.13 SERVERTYPE script Keywords: TransSys PNI I can not successfully modify the SERVERTYPE script. PNI-1.13 works when I have the following line in my pni0.config script: set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) pni which refers to pni/support/login-pni.tcl. When I copy login-pni.tcl to pni/config and change the name to login-zyxel.tcl and modify the pni.config script to: set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) zyxel PNI doesn't work, even though I have NOT yet modified login-zyxel.tcl. I receive the following errors: TTY tty: Login to xxx-xxxx with zyxel failed invalid command name: "login-zyxel" invalid command name: "login-zyxel"\n while executing\n"login-${remdevice} $dialer $serverconfig" Any suggestions? -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (Roger Frey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does anybody have a version of ParaSheet Date: 24 Nov 1994 11:12:50 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b1sfi$12s@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> Does anybody know more about ParaSheet from Lighthouse? I have tried to get a version, but .... still waiting - :-) roger -- ______________________________________________ Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS) Roger P. Frey LEIT/LITP-FYR Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich phone: +41 1 236 60 52 fax: +41 1 236 86 08 RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) via X.400: roger.frey@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch PGP PK available: Fingerprint: 17 97 6B C7 6C 7B 7A 45 38 E7 22 EA 9F D8 4D 77
From: fyr@ubszh.net.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does anybody have a version of ParaSheet Date: 24 Nov 94 12:28:08 Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <fyr.94Nov2412288@nol512> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Does anybody know more about ParaSheet from Lighthouse? I have tried to get a version, but .... still waiting - :-) roger -- ______________________________________________ Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS) Roger P. Frey LEIT/LITP-FYR Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich phone: +41 1 236 60 52 fax: +41 1 236 86 08 RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) via X.400: roger.frey@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch PGP PK available: Fingerprint: 17 97 6B C7 6C 7B 7A 45 38 E7 22 EA 9F D8 4D 77
From: iggjacob@sgi15 (Jacob Nielsen (c898594)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs.app and info files Date: 24 Nov 1994 13:49:18 GMT Organization: DTU Message-ID: <3b25ku$fa@unidhp.uni-c.dk> Summary: Keywords: Emacs.app info Oliver Geisser (ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: : Hi : In the last days I installed Emacs.app 4.0 on my : NeXTstation with NeXTstep 3.2. : What a great app Carl !! : The situation: : Emacs.app comes as a package and while installing : with Installer the post_install shell script makes : symbolic links from the info files inside Emacs.app : to /usr/local/info. : Now when I go into the Emacs Info reader I see the : standard info directory twice. : I think this behaviour is caused by the fact that : both locations of the info files (Emacs.app and : /usr/local/info) are in the info-file path as default. Good guess; it's correct. : After temporarily renaming /usr/local/info in something : different it works fine. : My question is: : - Did I miss something ? : - What is the best way to solve the problem ? : - Where should I install new info files: : inside Emacs.app or in /usr/local/info I see two options: 1. Remove the links from Emacs.app/info to /usr/local/info, and install all new info files in /usr/local/info. If you do this you have to maintain two dir files (one in Emacs.app/info and one in /usr/local/info) and the info program won't find all the files on startup. 2. Leave everything as it is, install new info files in /usr/local/info and alter the info-file path to only point to /usr/local/info. : By the way: What are these Emacs.app 4.0 to 4.5 patches ? Beta-testers only. : Is this a beta for Emacs.app based on a newer emacs or are : these bugfixes ? Both. I think the newest beta of NSEmacs is an emacs-19.28.1 Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen iggjacob@bbar.dtu.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: XNeXT Message-ID: <Czo5o0.L9@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <3aeu8u$6ac@news.gttw.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:35:59 GMT In article <3aeu8u$6ac@news.gttw.com> root@ulca24.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) writes: > I am looking for a shareware version of X for NeXT. I am running > Black hardware and NS-3.1. Can any of you direct me to a source? There is a free port of X11R5 called MouseX for black hardware only. You can find it on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in /pub/comp/platforms/next/X11/server/MouseX. I have never tried it out, so I cannot say anything about it's stability and performance. But I would be interested in any experiences, too. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Message-ID: <CzsEE5.CCz@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <9411221634.AA00614@cantina.lanl.gov> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 19:34:52 GMT In article <9411221634.AA00614@cantina.lanl.gov>, Dick Silbar <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> wrote: >I wrote to Chuck to ask how he found "Command-shift->", since I couldn't find >in Mail.app's menus or Help. He replied that it came from something called >MailHelper.app. Just get Mynah: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submissions/Mynah_0.8av.tar.gz That key combo is built in, along with Quote button in the Compose window. From the README: Features: + IMAP + Receives uuencode, BinHex, NeXTMail, MIME, NewsGrazer + X-Face support + Filenames displayed below icons of attached files + Uses Workspace Addressbooks + Reformat/Quote/Insert Signature built in + Reformat/Quote/Insert Signature provided as Services to other apps + Full headers can be displayed + Headers to be hidden selectable by user + Threaded Mailboxes + Messages can be postponed + Any message from you can be resumed (handy for resending messages) + Date/Time in message list is in your local time zone + Messages marked for deletion NOT hidden + Uses mail spool, doesn't move to home directory + Bcc, Reply-To headers available within Compose window + Compose window title reflects Subject + SPACE and - keys page up/down message text + Uses Images/People without stupid passwd file + Strips local domain when looking for Images/People tiff + Icon to indicate a message has been replied to + Quote button built into Compose window + Quoted text can be reformatted (Format/Text/Reformat Selection) -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,rodion.questions From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? In-Reply-To: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu's message of Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:41:43 GMT To: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3a9c5j$aah@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> <CzFItJ.EAn@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 22:11:36 GMT On 17 Nov 1994 20:41:43, Chadwick A Dubuque (CAD) wrote: CAD> In article <3a9c5j$aah@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>, CAD> <Hal.Varian@umich.edu> wrote: >> In article <3a8ubn$m4h@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes: >> >>> Now that I've got the most excellent OmniWeb running on my >>> black NeXT, I'd like to set up my own homepage so other >>> people can check me out. Can anybody point me in the direction >>> of an httpd daemon for the NeXT OS, or any info on how to >>> set one up on my machine? >>> >> >> The NCSA server, httpd, works out of the box. CAD> CAD> I've got the CERN httpd on mine. There's a binary for it, too, if you don't CAD> want to mess around compiling it. I've heard that the CERN has more options; CAD> what they are, I'm not sure. Can anyone give me a pointer to the documentation for the CERN httpd 2.12? TIA Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TickleServices Date: 23 Nov 1994 03:07:35 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.94Nov22210735@icicle.winternet.com> References: <CEDMAN.94Nov21191744@freedom.princeton.edu> <3au1rj$duh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In-reply-to: lones@lones.mit.edu's message of 23 Nov 1994 00:20:03 GMT >TickleServices doesn't appear to be upgraded to work with 3.2. >I found it in sonata under 2.0 release. Is that the right one?? ftp:://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.tar.gz is the latest, greatest version. It's compiled to run on m68k, i386, and hppa, and should work for NS3.0, NS3.1, and NS3.2. [And NS3.3, I should hope!] Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: perl and nextmail In-Reply-To: mcgredo@crl.com's message of 21 Nov 1994 17:48:31 -0800 To: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov21230407@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3arilf$5bm@crl.crl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 04:04:07 GMT In article <3arilf$5bm@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) writes: Some time ago I recall hearing about a perl script that ripped apart incoming NeXTMail into its component parts, and forwarded it depending on the contents of headers in the message. I can't recall the name, and looking on ftp.cs.orst.edu doesn't show any likely candidates. What you want is most likely procmail from ftp.informatik.rwth-aaechen.de:/pub/packages/procmail. If you want this to work together with Mail.app you probably also want the mailapp utilities from e.g. ftp.cs.orst.edu. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Need Appsoft Draw Upgrade... Message-ID: <CzooJo.yn@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 19:23:48 GMT Hello world... I'm a Appsoft Draw user, version 1.01 (Motorola). Now I would like to upgrade to last version. What to do ? Many thanks, Stefano -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
From: ksn@mail.cw.com (Kim Nash) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Oracle and Next Date: 23 Nov 1994 13:59:49 -0500 Organization: CW Publishing, Inc, Framingham MA. Message-ID: <3b03f5$4ap@mail.cw.com> Next's new Enterprise Objects Framework was designed to get at relational databases. it includes adapters for oracle and sybase. to get at other databases, tho, have to get adapters from third-parties. -- kim nash computerworld
From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ugly Icons in 3.3... Date: 23 Nov 1994 10:58:55 -0800 Organization: UCLA Physics Department Message-ID: <3b03df$6t5@einstein.physics.ucla.edu> References: <3alnt5$fqk@news.bu.edu> Bryony Bechtold (bbry@bu.edu) wrote: : Uh... a stupid question, but one that's important to me. If I can't have : the black hardware sitting on my desk, then I at least want to look at a : cool little shaded reminder of it as my root directory. The 3.3 white : icons are hideous. : So to ask a stupid question... is there anything preventing me from dumping : 'em and re-installing some of the 3.2 black icons, or have they suddenly been : integrated into the binaries for the .apps like I believe terminal is (the : root icon is just a root.tiff under /usr/lib/NextStep/etc....) : mucho gracias to any who know, Who did you contact to get 3.3?? I have the black hardware!! Thanks
From: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (Roger Frey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does anybody have a version of ParaSheet Date: 24 Nov 1994 09:00:52 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b1ko4$s2q@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com> Does anybody know more about ParaSheet from Lighthouse? I have tried to get a version, but .... still waiting - :-) roger -- ______________________________________________ Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS) Roger P. Frey LEIT/LITP-FYR Flurstrasse 68 CH-8048 Zurich phone: +41 1 236 60 52 fax: +41 1 236 86 08 RFC822: fyr@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok) via X.400: roger.frey@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch PGP PK available: Fingerprint: 17 97 6B C7 6C 7B 7A 45 38 E7 22 EA 9F D8 4D 77
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Date.app Date: 23 Nov 1994 20:16:49 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <3b07vh$4fg@nntp1.u.washington.edu> I am looking for a copy of the Date.app(?) (calendar) program that came with NeXTSTEP 1.0. If you know where I can find a copy, please let me know. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler) Subject: Re: sccs ? Message-ID: <bbutlerCzqp7G.Bq4@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <8ilYBCq00iUxQ1U7pm@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 21:33:16 GMT Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Nov-94 sccs ? by Samer > S Al-Droubi@mason1 > > I am looking for sccs (source code control system) for nextstep. Does > > any one know of a vendor for sccs for nextstep. If you any info > > about this please reply. > SCCS is Sun's proprietary product. No, it's an AT&T proprietary product. I guess this is now owned by Novell, courtesy of USL. Thus, it is available on any system which licenses AT&T code. > NEXTSTEP ships with RCS, which is an > upwards-compatible and freely available replacement from the Free > Software Foundation (although one may wish to haunt prep.ai.mit.edu for > a newer version of RCS and diff). RCS is not compatible with SCCS, but is, IMHO, superior in every way to SCCS. If you are looking for a system for a new software project, forget SCCS. -- ------- Bryan Butler bbutler@netcom.com
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem tracking software Date: 23 Nov 1994 15:41:54 -0600 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <px9411231913.AA06166@pine.proxima.com> Is anyone aware of a native NeXTSTEP problem tracking system, a la PTS/XPTS? Preferably something that can tie into Oracle or Sybase on the backend. I am aware of gnats and tkgnats as well as several other generic unix solutions, but do not find any of them to meet my needs. If no one has done this, and there are others interested in such a tool, I'd be willing to coordinate the development of such an app. I'm specifically looking for a tool that will allow me to track a problem "ticket" from cradle to grave. Specific features would be: o unlimited log entries per problem o email notification of problem status change o per-ticket resolution deadlines o searching on keywords, ticket types o identification of problem reporter per ticket o ticket assignment to users and groups o reassignment of ticket o reopening of closed ticket o problem classification into predetermined groups, dynamic addition of new problem groups o monitoring and identification of problem trends o per-user/group reports of resolution history This is a must-have for large-scale networks and systems, and something I'm willing to invest the time and money in developing for my organization and the NeXTSTEP community assuming it can be a shared effort. Otherwise, I'll develop it internally and hoard it. :) Followup here or respond to me vial electronic mail. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Date.app Date: 25 Nov 1994 10:22:40 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b4dtg$158@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <3b07vh$4fg@nntp1.u.washington.edu> In article <3b07vh$4fg@nntp1.u.washington.edu> mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) writes: > I am looking for a copy of the Date.app(?) (calendar) program > that came with NeXTSTEP 1.0. If you know where I can find a copy, > please let me know. Get it from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in /pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/Date.2.1.N.b.gz (as the extension of the filename - .N.b. Says, the distribution is only the binary for original NeXT computers). Sebastian -- Sebastian Bauer <bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de> (NeXTmail welcome) Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer) Technical University Munich, Germany
From: alex@talus.talus.com (Alex Kolesov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cleaning up tiff scans Date: 23 Nov 1994 20:55:56 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3b0a8s$978@news.blkbox.com> References: <3at4ip$6cm@nrel.nrel.gov> Keywords: tiff, eraser In article <3at4ip$6cm@nrel.nrel.gov> dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) writes: > Greetings, > Can anyone point me to a public domain or shareware product which > permits simple clean-up of scanned tiff images (e.g., a simple eraser > block which will blot out blemishes or intrusions in a scan)? --I > find that my otherwise relatively sophisticated scanning software lacks > this elementary feature, and I'm frustrated (but not enough to pay > big bucks for it). It's galling to have to use a Mac do do this. > I can run it under X-Windows, if such a product is > available. Yes, I know, I could in principle occlude the blemishes with > opaque white blocks in, say, Draw, and save the result as a new tiff, but > this seems like a lot of work for what should be a *simple* procedure... > Icon.app (patched to run under OS 3.0) fails, after aeons, to save the > modified tiff. > If none such exists, what relatively inexpensive *commercial* product > will do such tiff touch-ups? > > Many thanks! > > David M. Wood > -- > David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group > dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510 > Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory > Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 Talus PhotoFlash image retouching application is now available. This application has special tools and image filters for removing "dust" from scanned images. Please, contact me to get free DEMO copy. ~~~ Alex A. Kolesov || Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation alex@talus.com || 1304 Langham Creeck Phone: (713) 578-1434 || Suite #300 Fax: (713) 578-1815 || Houston, TX 77084
From: buergin_d@gw2.admin.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTeX ion HP9000/712 Message-ID: <1994Nov25.110005.159@gw2.admin.ch> Date: 25 Nov 94 11:00:05 +0100 Organization: Swiss Federal Government I'am working with NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a HP9000/712 Gekko. Just everything work's fine, but i can't find NeXTTeX on the 2 CD-ROM's Maybe it's not there, or i can't find it. Can anybody tell me, where i can find the Package Thanks for every Answer
From: louie@va.pubnix.com (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PNI-1.13 modify servertype script Date: 25 Nov 1994 08:26:15 -0500 Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virgina) Message-ID: <3b4oln$kcv@pub01.va.pubnix.com> References: <3b15cm$3hj@runner.uucp> Keywords: TransSys PNI In article <3b15cm$3hj@runner.uucp>, Richard Ruth <richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu> wrote: >I can not successfully modify the SERVERTYPE script. > >PNI-1.13 works when I have the following line in >my pni0.config script: > >set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) pni > >which refers to pni/support/login-pni.tcl. When I copy >login-pni.tcl to pni/config and change the name to >login-zyxel.tcl and modify the pni.config script to: > >set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) zyxel > >PNI doesn't work, even though I have NOT yet modified >login-zyxel.tcl. > >I receive the following errors: > >TTY tty: Login to xxx-xxxx with zyxel failed invalid command name: "login-zyxel" >invalid command name: "login-zyxel"\n while executing\n"login-${remdevice} $dialer $serverconfig" > >Any suggestions? If you change the name of the file, you should also change the name of the procedure defined in the file from login-pni to login-zyxel. Also, don't you really want to use a zyxel thing as a *dialer* script, and not a login script? Just wondering. PNI will invoke the dialer script first to dial the modem, and then a login script to frob the remote box into SLIP mode. Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: potonnie@freeway.issy.cnet.fr (Olivier POTONNIEE) Subject: problems with Postscript Previewer Message-ID: <1994Nov25.140717.19824@cnet.fr> Sender: potonnie@freeway (Olivier POTONNIEE) Organization: Centre National d'Etudes des Telecommunications Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 14:07:17 GMT I often have problems reading postscript files from non-NeXT programs (WinWord, Frame, ...). My Preview.app (v3.0) seems to be quiet restrictive about Postscript, is there others Postscript interpreters on NeXT ? I heard about Tailor, what is it, and where can I find it ? Olivier POTONNIEE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CNET - FRANCE TELECOM | Tel : +33 (1) 45 29 63 95 PAA/TSA/TLR - groupe Arcade | Fax : +33 (1) 45 29 66 56 38-40 rue du General Leclerc | e-mail : olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr 92131 Issy les Moulineaux | FRANCE | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Acrobat? Date: 25 Nov 1994 13:32:52 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b4p24$qm@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <42464@dog.ee.lbl.gov> David R. Quarrie writes > Is there an Acrobat viewer for NEXTSTEP? > Yes sure, but nobody knows. Two days ago we have inserted a Disk with a pdf-file and Tailor 2.0 opened it. What a surprise ! --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + QMSprint - Network Printing for NEXTSTEP + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Emacs.app and info files In-Reply-To: ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de's message of 24 Nov 1994 00:32:52 +0100 To: ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov24091743@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3b0jf4$3sh@comet.uni-paderborn.de> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 14:17:43 GMT In article <3b0jf4$3sh@comet.uni-paderborn.de> ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser) writes: In the last days I installed Emacs.app 4.0 on my NeXTstation with NeXTstep 3.2. What a great app Carl !! Thank you ! Emacs.app comes as a package and while installing with Installer the post_install shell script makes symbolic links from the info files inside Emacs.app to /usr/local/info. That was an installation screwup on my part. The reason for creating the links was to satisfy 'info' or other standalone info readers which check only in /usr/local/info. However I understand that newer versions of these programs understand about INFOPATH, so there is really no reason to force everything into /usr/local/info. Since 4.01 or so those links aren't any longer created. You can delete them on your machine without coming to any harm. By the way: What are these Emacs.app 4.0 to 4.5 patches ? Is this a beta for Emacs.app based on a newer emacs or are these bugfixes ? I've continued adding new features, bug fixes and GNU emacs upgrades to Emacs for NS since 4.0 was released. Currently we are up to 4.05 which includes emacs 19.28, many bug fixes, performance improvements, snazzy new features but also a number of new bugs. For that reason I prefer to make it available only to the people on the beta tester list (to which anybody can subscribe). As soon as the new bugs are worked out and Emacs for NS has had some more thorough testing, I'll make version 4.1 publicly available. There is hope that that will be before the end of the year, but until then I strongly suggest that general Emacs for NS users stay with 4.0 which is still much more stable than any release since. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Problems with compiling nntp 1.5.11 Message-ID: <1994Nov25.130947.10639@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 13:09:47 GMT Hi, I've a problem with compiling nntp: [make server] cd server; make "LIBS=--s -ldbm" "CFLAGS=-O -bsd -arch m68k -arch i386 -D_NEXT_SOURCE" cc -O -bsd -arch m68k -arch i386 -D_NEXT_SOURCE -c misc.c For architecture m68k: In file included from common.h:38, from misc.c:5: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/strings.h:23: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strlen' misc.c: In function `dfree': misc.c:898: `DEV_BSIZE' undeclared (first use this function) misc.c:898: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once misc.c:898: for each function it appears in.) *** Exit 1 Stop. Ideas? Thanx Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan) Subject: Version Control Message-ID: <Czty9I.2t5@ets.com> Sender: mikel@ets.com (Mike Lokan) Organization: ETS, Inc. Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 15:41:42 GMT Hi, I'm presently reviewing version control software for the NeXT. If anyone out there has any information regarding this subject that they would be willing to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance. Regards, Mike Lokan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de Subject: book keeping software? Message-ID: <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen) Organization: Ruby's private musicbox Distribution: pro audio Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 17:43:03 GMT Does anybody know, if there is a book keeping software available? Thanks, Marcus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@twilight.Jacobus.stevens-tech.edu (Operator) Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Message-ID: <1994Nov26.053555.22074@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology References: <CzEowF.Lvr@demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 05:35:55 GMT In article <CzEowF.Lvr@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) writes: > In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> > wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: > > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer > > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. > > WFC > > Try GraphicsWorkshop, both source and object available at ftp.cs.orst.edu > I looked for it there and could not locate it. I also checked sonata.cc.purdue.edu neither had it. If someone could please NextMail me a copy (tar'ed please) to bill@gauss.stevens-tech.edu I would really appreciate it. It seems that gif is the standard for inline immages on the web, and I'm setting up a web site (http://twilight.jacobus.stevens-tech.edu). I would have added some inline immages, but my scanner software only saves in tiff & eps. Hence my quest for a converter. Bill Shaw bill@Gauss.stevens-tech.edu S-1304 Sactle Point Station bill@laplace.math.steens-tech.edu Hoboken, NJ 07030 bill@twilight.jacobus.stevens-tech.edu (201) 216 - 3615 & wshaw@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de Subject: book keeping software? Message-ID: <1994Nov19.081749.453@jazzpair.freinet.de> Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen) Organization: Ruby's private musicbox References: <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> Distribution: pro audio Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 08:17:49 GMT Does anybody know, if there is a book keeping software available? Thanks, Marcus
From: rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Can anyone tell how to read chinese news on white NeXT??? Date: 26 Nov 1994 13:04:11 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Unix Users Group Message-ID: <3b7bob$gtr@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Hello, I try to find "cxterm" like terminal emulator which can help me to read chinese news on my NeXT/FIP. Can any one tell me where can I find it? Or, there are other ways which can do the same thing.... Thanks in advance... Rueiwun Tu rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu
From: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs.app and info files Date: 26 Nov 1994 13:44:34 +0100 Organization: a private site in Munich, South Germany Message-ID: <AXEL.94Nov26134433@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3b0jf4$3sh@comet.uni-paderborn.de> In-reply-to: ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de's message of 24 Nov 1994 00:32:52 +0100 >>>>> "Oliver" == Oliver Geisser <ogeisser@comet.uni-paderborn.de> writes: Oliver> By the way: What are these Emacs.app 4.0 to 4.5 patches ? Oliver> Is this a beta for Emacs.app based on a newer emacs or are Oliver> these bugfixes ? I guess you have seen these patches on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de? This really seems to become a serious problem: These patches were meant as a service to the beta testers of Emacs.app, so that not all of them have to get the patches from the host in USA (as the link is rather slow). They are not for the "normal" end user who just want to use a stable editor (in this case, "normal" end user probably is a programmer, who else would be using the One True Editor(tm)? :-) I have already changed the README-file and have included a warning about the beta status of the 4.0x patches. If problems with "users" keep on mounting, I will remove those patches from the ftp site. Sorry for any inconvenience, I may have caused, especially to you, Carl. Axel -- aseibert@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (NeXTmail welcome) seiberta@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (please no NeXTmail here!) Lass krrrrrachen, Amigo!
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Version Control Date: 26 Nov 1994 16:05:58 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <Czty9I.2t5@ets.com> Mike Lokan (mis07d!mikel) wrote: : Hi, : I'm presently reviewing version control software for the NeXT. If anyone : out there has any information regarding this subject that they would be : willing to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've been trying out DevMan (which is available at ftp.vnp.com), and I'm pretty hap with it. My only gripe is that certain procedures (like creating a branch) requires going to a command-line; if they fixed this, it would be ideal for me. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? Date: 26 Nov 1994 20:07:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b84i0$e15@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> In article <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) writes: > CAD> what they are, I'm not sure. > > Can anyone give me a pointer to the documentation for the CERN httpd 2.12? http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/setup/Install.html --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? Date: 26 Nov 1994 22:57:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b8egq$em0@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3b84i0$e15@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> In article <3b84i0$e15@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes: > In article <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan > Wacker) writes: > > > CAD> what they are, I'm not sure. > > > > Can anyone give me a pointer to the documentation for the CERN httpd 2.12? > > http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/setup/Install.html > Sorry--this is the documentation for the NCSA server; I misread the original post. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: annard@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: TeX PostScript fonts info Date: 26 Nov 1994 21:58:10 +0100 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b87h2$pp@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> Hello, I remember some time ago that a company announced it had developed PostScript Type 1 fonts for all TeX fonts. Could anybody give me the address or any other info about these products and the company? Thanks in advance! Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer <annard@stack.urc.tue.nl> (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What is the latest version for SoundWorks (BLACK)? Message-ID: <39670@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Date: 26 Nov 94 23:46:53 GMT Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine During the past couple of weeks, I called MetaResearch and left two messages on their answering machine to find out the latest version of SoundWorks for BLACK. I haven't heard from them. Does anyone know? Rob Arrabito e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BLACK library calls for playing a 48 kHz sound?? Message-ID: <39671@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Date: 26 Nov 94 23:48:50 GMT References: <39670@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine I'm running NS 3.0 on a Turbo Cube. I would like to write a program which would play a sound file at 48 kHz without using the DSP. I went through the user manual and found that only 22.05 and 44.1 kHz can only be played (LOW or HIGH) -- parameters to SNDAlloc() ). Is this correct? If not, then I would appreciate some help. If I am right, then do more recent versions of NS for BLACK support 48 kHz? Rob Arrabito e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP emulators? Date: 26 Nov 1994 20:53:34 -0700 Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc Message-ID: <3b8vru$pkc@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Anyone got an easy to use SLIP emulator, that I can use with my communications software (Microphone II), and Omniweb? FTP shareware is best. Thanks! ==============================Jon Sacharuk================================ >>>>>>>>If you're a fan of disclamers, insert one here<<<<<<<<<|*********| - I'm not like other people...pain _hurts_ me! -Daffy Duck | Syzygy | - Ecce! Fabae Suaves! <Look! Jellybeans> -Ancient Roman saying | Systems | - Just beam up my head Scotty! I only want to talk! -me | Ltd. | - No generalization is correct, not even this one- unknown |*********| ////////////////////////ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ --
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PNI-1.13 modify servertype script Date: 26 Nov 1994 08:09:58 -0800 Organization: runner Message-ID: <3b7mkm$7t6@runner.uucp> References: <3b15cm$3hj@runner.uucp> <3b4oln$kcv@pub01.va.pubnix.com> Louis A. Mamakos (louie@va.pubnix.com) wrote: : In article <3b15cm$3hj@runner.uucp>, : Richard Ruth <richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu> wrote: : >I can not successfully modify the SERVERTYPE script. : > : > ... : If you change the name of the file, you should also change the name of the : procedure defined in the file from login-pni to login-zyxel. : Also, don't you really want to use a zyxel thing as a *dialer* script, and not : a login script? Just wondering. PNI will invoke the dialer script first : to dial the modem, and then a login script to frob the remote box into : SLIP mode. : Louis Mamakos Yes, changing the name of the procedure defined within the file to the new file name solved the problem. PNI works very well. I want to change the login script because the system I am slipping into, the slip server, has a ZyXEL modem with a security option set. Thanks for the help. -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: NetInfo "All Objects Are Read Only"? Message-ID: <CzxC81.1o2@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper References: <3b97hs$su7@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 11:36:01 GMT In article <3b97hs$su7@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > jkarab@exnext.com (John Karabaic) writes: > > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net writes > > > In my travels with TransSys PNI SLIP, I have encountered the > > > above situation and also discovered that this will happen after > > > the FIRST time you bring up a PNI link... > > > > > > 1) Is there any way to "fix" this (gee...would be nice to add > > > a printer or new user accounts after I've run PNI!!) > > > > > > Damon F. Cooper > > > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net > > > > What this means is that netinfo thinks that you're talking to a > > clone database, which, by definition is read-only. > > > > What you should check: > [suggestions skipped over] > > If I remember my email right, it turned out that the problem happens > after the PNI link is *down*, not after it is *up*. The problem is > that the version of PNI that Damon is running leaves the ethernet > interface up after disconnecting the link. This also produces > "netinfo sleeping" messages on the console. > > The trick is to use the ifconfig command to bring the SLIP interface > down after PNI has dropped the connection. > This is probably true, but the problem does stem from NetInfo thinking that the machine is a clone server (whenever I try to make any NetInfo changes I'm told so in no uncertain terms). Ok, so according to the SysAdmin bookshelf, NetInfo thinks it's a clone server if "...the configured Internet address of the machine is not the same as that of the master server (identified in the master property of the NetInfo directory / )..." - Chapter 15, SysAdmin Here's my /etc/hostconfig: ------------------- HOSTNAME=damonc INETADDR=-AUTOMATIC- ROUTER=-NO- IPNETMASK= IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC- NETMASTER=-YES- YPDOMAIN=tor.hookup.net TIME=-AUTOMATIC- ------------------- and here's a dump of pertinent netinfo info: ------------------- master = localhost/local; CHILDREN = ({ name = machines; CHILDREN = ({ name = (localhost, damonc); ip_address = 165.154.11.65; netgroups = (); serves = ./local; system_type = Unknown; }, { name = broadcasthost; ip_address = 255.255.255.255; }); }, { name = localconfig; CHILDREN = ({ name = ISDN; _writers = "*"; }, { name = keyboard; keymap = /NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA; }, { name = language; language = English; }, { name = screens; _writers = "*"; CHILDREN = { name = MegaPixel; _writers = "*"; active = 0; bounds = "0 1120 0 832"; slot = 0; unit = 0; }; }); }, { [ users, groups deleted... ] name = networks; CHILDREN = ({ name = (loopback, "loopback-net", "software-loopback-net"); address = 127; }, { name = ("next-default", NeXTether, ethernet, localnet); address = 192.42.172; }, { name = (arpanet, arpa); address = 10; }, { name = ("ucb-ether", ucbether); address = 46; }); }, { [ protocols, rpc's, services, printers, removed... ] }; }); ------------------- I do notice on boot that lno0 IP is set to 127.0.0.1, probably because of the -AUTOMATIC- in the IPADDRESS field of the hostconfig above? If I hard wire the address in the hostconfig, though, the machine sits at "mounting remote file systems..." at boot up and (when ^C 'd) it does start up, everything in NetInfo is *still* read-only... I'm stumped!! Anybody been "here and done this"? Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.fonts From: mfradkin@next.mrco.carleton.ca (Mikhail Fradkin) Subject: Help with font installation on NeXT Message-ID: <Czxq35.1oq@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 16:35:29 GMT Hi, I've got a problem installing cyrillic font on my NeXT computer running NS v.3.0. I took Mac type 1 KOI8-Terminal font and got afm file using mcvert. Then I have produced outline font file through 'mfrc' program from Mac printer-downloadable font (Macintosh file type 'LWFN'). Everything was fine and 'buildafmdir' did not complain at all. However, every time I am trying to use the font I get an error message in NeXT console: Nov 27 09:37:02 nuar Edit[9180]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 7c1f8 Nov 27 09:37:03 nuar Edit[9180]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setshared ]%% and all characters are shown in standard system font instead of desirable one. Even worse, after trying to use this font I got the same error message for CyrillicGothic font which was working perfectly for a year. Any advice? Misha PS. I would be very grateful if you could reply via e-mail; NeXT mail welcome. If interested, I can send font files for check by experts. M.F. -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$U,S9<='@S,#<R7'1X-#8P.%QT M>#8Q-#1<='@W-C@P7'1X.3(Q-EQT>#$P-S4R7'1X,3(R.#A<='@Q,S@R-%QT M>#$U,S8P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S,R7&9C,%QC9C`@2&DL(%P*"4DG M=F4@9V]T(&$@<')O8FQE;2!I;G-T86QL:6YG(&-Y<FEL;&EC(&9O;G0@;VY< M"FUY($YE6%0@8V]M<'5T97(@<G5N;FEN9R!.4R!V+C,N,"X@22!T;V]K($UA M8R!T>7!E(#$@2T])."U497)M:6YA;"!F;VYT(&%N9"!G;W0@869M(&9I;&4@ M=7-I;F<@;6-V97)T+B!4:&5N($E<"FAA=F4@<')O9'5C960@;W5T;&EN92!F M;VYT(&9I;&4@=&AR;W5G:"`G;69R8R<@<')O9W)A;2!F<F]M($UA8R!P<FEN M=&5R+61O=VYL;V%D86)L92!F;VYT("A-86-I;G1O<V@@9FEL92!T>7!E("=, M5T9.)RDN($5V97)Y=&AI;F<@=V%S(&9I;F4@86YD("=B=6EL9&%F;61I<B<@ M9&ED(&YO="!C;VUP;&%I;B!A="!A;&PN7`H)2&]W979E<BP@979E<GD@=&EM M92!)(&%M('1R>6EN9R!T;R!U<V4@=&AE(&9O;G1<"DD@9V5T(&%N(&5R<F]R M(&UE<W-A9V4@:6X@3F585"!C;VYS;VQE.EP*7`H*7&9S,C@@3F]V(#(W(#`Y M.C,W.C`R(&YU87(@161I=%LY,3@P73H@1%!3(&-L:65N="!L:6)R87)Y(&5R M<F]R.B`@4&]S=%-C<FEP="!P<F]G<F%M(&5R<F]R+"!$4%-#;VYT97AT(#=C M,68X7`I.;W8@,C<@,#DZ,S<Z,#,@;G5A<B!%9&ET6SDQ.#!=.B`E)5L@17)R M;W(Z('1Y<&5C:&5C:SL@3V9F96YD:6YG0V]M;6%N9#H@<V5T<VAA<F5D(%TE M)5P*7`IA;F0@86QL(&-H87)A8W1E<G,@87)E('-H;W=N(&EN('-T86YD87)D M('-Y<W1E;2!F;VYT(&EN<W1E860@;V8@9&5S:7)A8FQE(&]N92X@179E;B!W M;W)S92P@869T97(@=')Y:6YG('1O('5S92!T:&ES(&9O;G0@22!G;W0@=&AE M('-A;64@97)R;W(@;65S<V%G92!F;W(@0WER:6QL:6-';W1H:6,@9F]N="!W M:&EC:"!W87,@=V]R:VEN9R!P97)F96-T;'D@9F]R(&$@>65A<BY<"EP*"4%N M>2!A9'9I8V4_7`H)"4UI<VAA7`I<"E!3+B!)('=O=6QD(&)E('9E<GD@9W)A M=&5F=6P@:68@>6]U(&-O=6QD(')E<&QY('9I82!E+6UA:6P[7`I.95A4(&UA M:6P@=V5L8V]M92X@268@:6YT97)E<W1E9"P@22!C86X@<V5N9"!F;VYT(&9I D;&5S(&9O<B!C:&5C:R!B>2!E>'!E<G1S+B!-+D8N(%P*"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: nkawai@postman.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) Subject: CAP 60 Message-ID: <NKAWAI.94Nov28020741@postman.riken.go.jp> Sender: news@postman.riken.go.jp (News Administrator) Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 07:07:41 GMT I am trying to install CAP 60, but compilation fails for AUFS. I specified "next" as the machine type in "Configure", and used default setting for all the questions in Configure. Do you have an advice? Following is the error messages. # pwd /LocalLibrary/Sources/cap60pl192/applications/aufs # make cc -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -c aufs.c cc -O -DNeXT -DADDRINPACK -c afpos.c afpos.c: In function `unix_chown': afpos.c:4262: invalid operands to binary & afpos.c:4265: invalid operands to binary >> *** Exit 1 Stop. # -- $B2O9g@?G7(B Nobuyuki Kawai RIKEN
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CAP 60 Date: 28 Nov 1994 00:34:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bb8j3$hqp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <NKAWAI.94Nov28020741@postman.riken.go.jp> In article <NKAWAI.94Nov28020741@postman.riken.go.jp> nkawai@postman.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) writes: > I am trying to install CAP 60, but compilation fails for AUFS. > I specified "next" as the machine type in "Configure", and used > default setting for all the questions in Configure. CAP used to work for NextStep 2.x, but is broken in 3.x. Below, I am including the text of a previous post, where the poster said he got CAP working under NextStep 3.2. I have not had the time to verify this. If you get CAP working, please post again to this newsgroup and let us know what you did. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu NextStep 3.2 on black hardware *************************************************************** Path: nntp.Stanford.EDU!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!news.cygnus.com!news.zeitg eist.net!miwok!well!barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gt efsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news2.near.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!usenet From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: Getting CAP to work on NeXTSTEP 3.2 Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:06:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 101 Distribution: world Message-ID: <358rqf$gir@usenet.rpi.edu> A few people have asked about running CAP on NeXTSTEP 3.2. I have CAP patch level 100 running on NS-3.2 for Motorola. There is one significant patch I've made to get this to work on NS-3.2 (as opposed to NS-2.1), and I'm pretty sure some patch similar to this is needed for later versions of CAP, but this exact patch probably won't be quite right. I also imagine that the text of this patch is going to get wrapped along the way, so you may just want to use it for reference purposes instead of just trying to apply it blindly... I realize this isn't as helpful as it might be, but at least it points people in the right direction for getting CAP to run under NS-3.2. I have other patches to CAP for various things, but I'm pretty sure this is the only NeXTSTEP specific one. I haven't sorted out the others yet (and I'd like to get them on patch level 192 first anyway, instead of patch level 100). Even with this patch, you can only run CAP in it's IPTALK mode under NeXTSTEP. You must have some gateway on your network which can convert from IPTalk to EtherTalk or LocalTalk. There is someone else working on a native ethertalk support for CAP, but this update is not related to that. Here's the patch. Hope this proves helpful to some people. --+--[next line is first line of patch]--+-- *** ./conf.func.lst.orig Wed Mar 13 04:56:01 1991 --- ./conf.func.lst Mon Jul 25 23:16:46 1994 *************** *** 7,26 **** # fill empty fields with x -- some machines strip extra IFS's N+-,GETOPT,x,getopt,"cap: argument processing" E,GETOPT,x,x,"cap: will use public domain getopt" N+-,GETMNT,/usr/include/sys/mount.h,getmnt,"aufs: info on file systems (dec)" N+-,STATFS,/usr/include/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems (sun nfs)" ! E,GETOPT,x,x,"aufs: no space information on volumes will be available" N+-,QUOTA,/usr/include/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota" E,QUOTA,x,x,"aufs: no information on user quotas" A+,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/ufs/quota.h,quotactl,"aufs: info on user quota" N+-,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/mntent.h,getmntent,"aufs: used by sunquota" E,SUNQUOTA,x,x,"aufs: not using sunquota system" N+-,FLOCK,/usr/include/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking" E,FLOCK,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no file locking" N+-,LOCKF,/usr/include/unistd.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using unistd.h" N+-,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using fcntl.h" E,LOCKF,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no byte range lock" A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf" N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg fprintf" E,VPRINTF,x,x,"cap: no vprintf available, will do the best we can" N-+,NORECVMSG,x,recvmsg,"cap: lib: scatter gather recv" --- 7,32 ---- # fill empty fields with x -- some machines strip extra IFS's N+-,GETOPT,x,getopt,"cap: argument processing" E,GETOPT,x,x,"cap: will use public domain getopt" N+-,GETMNT,/usr/include/sys/mount.h,getmnt,"aufs: info on file systems (dec)" + N+,STATFS,/usr/include/bsd/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems (sun nfs, NS3.2)" N+-,STATFS,/usr/include/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems (sun nfs)" ! E,STATFS,x,x,"aufs: no space information on volumes will be available" ! N+,QUOTA,/usr/include/bsd/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota (NS3.2)" N+-,QUOTA,/usr/include/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota" E,QUOTA,x,x,"aufs: no information on user quotas" A+,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/ufs/quota.h,quotactl,"aufs: info on user quota" N+-,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/mntent.h,getmntent,"aufs: used by sunquota" E,SUNQUOTA,x,x,"aufs: not using sunquota system" + N+,FLOCK,/usr/include/bsd/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking (NS3.2)" N+-,FLOCK,/usr/include/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking" E,FLOCK,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no file locking" N+-,LOCKF,/usr/include/unistd.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using unistd.h" + N+,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/bsd/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using fcntl.h (NS3.2)" N+-,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using fcntl.h" E,LOCKF,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no byte range lock" + A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/bsd/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf (NS3.2)" + N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/bsd/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg fprintf (NS3.2)" A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf" N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg fprintf" E,VPRINTF,x,x,"cap: no vprintf available, will do the best we can" N-+,NORECVMSG,x,recvmsg,"cap: lib: scatter gather recv" --+--[previous line was last line of patch]--+-- -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Mac Emulator Message-ID: <CzyFvx.Av8@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <CzBvCv.314@cfa.org> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 01:52:45 GMT Daniel C. Jensen (dcjensen@fergus.cfa.org) wrote: : Any Mac emulators around the 'net for true NeXT machines? Demos okay. Executor is available in demo form from ftp.cs.unm.edu --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Need macro lIke capability for word processing Message-ID: <CzyGFK.DMK@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:04:31 GMT Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : Basically, I need the ability to store strings of text that can be entered : during transcription. : This could be a multiple pasteboard type of deal. But, the real need : would be to be able to attach a key sequence to each string of characters. It's been a while since I spoke to MetroSoft about it, but they were working on MetroKeys, a program for creating application-specific or global macros that would do all sorts of things. (ASCII/RTF insert, execute commands, play sounds, playback key and mouse events, etc...) Find out via email to info@metrosoft.com It was scheduled for Q3'94 release on Intel, Moto, HP. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: book keeping software? Message-ID: <CzyGz6.FyK@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> <3aqgvi$hlh@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:16:18 GMT Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: : In article <1994Nov18.174303.672@jazzpair.freinet.de> : marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de writes: : > Does anybody know, if there is a book keeping software available? : QuantiFlow by Sumeris Technology is an outstanding new accounting package. : Let me know if you'd like more information. That's QuantaFlow, actually. :-) There's also a package called CheckSum from Sirius Solutions (checksum@sirius.com) --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: TeX for NSFIP? Message-ID: <CzyHD0.Ht2@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3aj9rf$1hhb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:24:36 GMT Ian Wittmeyer (ian@candela.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu) wrote: : Do YOU have TeX/LaTeX running on NS/Intel? If so, what did you do? : Did I miss something or was TeX not bundled with NS3.2? It is bundled. NeXT carefully choses to conceal it in 3.2, by not offering the package to you when you install the rest of NeXTSTEP. Look on the 3.2 User CD, in /NextCD/Packages, and install NeXTTeX.pkg. I have heard many people say that the TeX implementation is one of the primary reasons they liked NeXTSTEP. Apparently NeXT's MCCA customers don't want to write books or papers, so they chose to hide it from view. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Message-ID: <CzyHrC.JHF@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> <3aosjq$1e3@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:33:12 GMT Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: [nasty keystrokes deleted] : Question: what do you call a user interface which requires you to repeat : the same complicated task over-and-over again in order to obtain : a simple, desirable and often-required task? : Answer: poor. Answer: Windows --Chris
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: zsh 2.6b1 for NeXTSTEP available on ftp.uni-stuttgart.de Date: 28 Nov 94 09:09:40 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.786013780@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Keywords: zsh, Nextstep, Source, ftp Hello! Some folks reported problems compiling zsh 2.6 beta. I made the necessary changes to the source distribution and put it together into ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/systems/next/Unix/Shells/zsh-2.6b1-NeXT.tar.gz Just gunzip and untar the archive, cd into the top level directory and say 'make'. No need for running 'configure' again. Comments or questions are welcome to wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de. Enjoy, Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de // // ...have a look at http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html //
From: sz0207@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Sven Gallenbacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTTIME where can i find it ? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 14:55:53 +0100 Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <3bcnh9Ehi@uni-erlangen.de> Hello ! I am seraching for NeXTTIME on a lot of FTP Sites, but i didn't find it. Where can i get NeXTTIME from ? (from which FTP-Site ?) Thanks, and so long. Sven Gallenbacher University of Erlangen email: sz0207@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MetroSuction and NIH files Date: 28 Nov 1994 14:05:51 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <3bco3v$l3b@lorne.stir.ac.uk> Is there a version of MetroSuction which can thin NIH apps / files? Where can I get it? -- Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926 Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133 Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk Stirling University Scotland FK9 4LA * * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXTMail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ieuan@infotec.demon.co.uk (Operator) Subject: WWW For Next Message-ID: <CzzErH.5y5@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 14:26:05 GMT Can anyone help point me to a good World Wide Web browser for NeXT mach 2.0 preferably in the form of an FTP site and just to be really awkward, could you also E-Mail any replies to me at the following ieuan@infotec.demon.co.uk To those who can help thanks a million !
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MPEG player for hppa Date: 28 Nov 1994 16:07:25 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Nov28090725@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> I've downloaded and (apparently successfully) compiled both Movie.app and MPEG_Play.app. Both apps will launch, but that's it - absolutely no display on the hppa. Has anyone succeeded in getting a functioning mpeg player? -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred R hr) Subject: Looking for address - Fontinstaller - app Message-ID: <CzzLIq.pq@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 16:52:01 GMT Hello, I tried to reach for following app and address, but no access: - TypefaceInstaller 1.05 APPLICATION FOR NEXTSTEP COMPUTERS. - I m looking for: Lans Brahmantyo (Brahm) Q.Type 14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-222 Englewood, CO 80112 Ph. 303.799.4262 Fax. 303.799.1435 or 799.1709 Email: Q.Type@alembic.com or brahm@alembic.com who sells a fontinstaller. My try contacting via e-mail bounced it as unknown. Does anybody know new address? Thanks for it manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * * NeXT Club Schwerte - next-club-schwerte@jwd.ping.de *
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Version Control Date: 28 Nov 1994 19:06:11 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3bd9n3$65m@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> In article <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: > Mike Lokan (mis07d!mikel) wrote: > : Hi, > > : I'm presently reviewing version control software for the NeXT. If anyone > : out there has any information regarding this subject that they would be > : willing to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. > > I've been trying out DevMan (which is available at ftp.vnp.com), > and I'm pretty hap with it. My only gripe is that certain procedures > (like creating a branch) requires going to a command-line; if they > fixed this, it would be ideal for me. Last week Paul Kunz gave a great talk on that subject (he took part at the OOCNS conference). He recommended the use of CVS and RCVS (for the last, you may want to look at ftp.slac.stanford/pub/sources). The astronomers from ~10 different organizations working on the AIPS++ project are also very happy with CVS. I've just start playing with it, and although it has no GUI, it looks so powerful, that typing commands from the terminal is just fine... -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ".index.store" serves what purpose? Date: 28 Nov 1994 21:21:42 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <3bdhl6$d4v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello all -- Just a quick question, and then I will move out of the way... :) What purpose does the file ".index.store" serve? I've noticed that it only grows and changes with users who actually utilize the console... remote users never alter this file... Anyhow, I just became curious when I began to notice that it grows every so often -- right now it's sitting at around 560k... ANyway, thanks in advance! Oh, and please reply in a manner which is most convenient to you -- I check these boards and I receive NeXTMail at night@b65215.student.cwru.edu! Later! John -- ------------------------------------------------------------ John L. Millard | "Sow your wild oats on 4th Year Computer Engineering | Saturday night -- then on Case Western Reserve Univ. | Sunday pray for crop night@b65215.student.cwru.edu | failure." jlm13@po.cwru.edu | ______________________________| -- Murphy's Laws of Sex "Don't play that song, that "achy-breaky" song, I think it is driving me insane -- Oh please don't play that song, that irritating song -- I'd rather have a pitchfork in my brain!" -- "Weird Al" Yankovic ------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@mcnabb.com (Michael McNabb) Subject: Re: BLACK library calls for playing a 48 kHz sound?? Message-ID: <1994Nov28.020806.2466@mcnabb.com> Sender: michael@mcnabb.com References: <39671@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:08:06 GMT In article <39671@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) writes: > > I'm running NS 3.0 on a Turbo Cube. > I would like to write a program which would play a sound file at > 48 kHz without using the DSP. I went through the user manual and found that > only 22.05 and 44.1 kHz can only be played (LOW or HIGH) -- parameters > to SNDAlloc() ). > Is this correct? If not, then I would appreciate some help. > If I am right, then do more recent versions of NS for BLACK support 48 kHz? > > > Rob Arrabito > e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca Next's sound driver for black does not support 48kHz playback directly. However, you can write a program using the NXSoundStream class to play the samples in buffers, after down-sampling each buffer to 44.1 kHz on the fly using simple linear interpolation. The distortion introduced will most likely not be noticeable going from 48 to 44.1. Here's a function I wrote for the Ensemble Music Kit app, which uses it to apply MIDI pitchbend in real time to sampled data. It uses integer arithmetic in the loop. The reference argument "fraction" keeps state between buffers. The increment argument determines the rate change. In the above case it would be (48.0/44.1). Bufsize is the number of samples in the data buffer. - Michael McNabb #import <sound/sound.h> static char *resample(char *inData, char *outData, int bufsize, float increment, float *fraction, int channels, int format) { register int frac = 32768 * *fraction; register int inc = 32768 * increment; if (channels == 1) { if (format == SND_FORMAT_LINEAR_16) { register short *in = (short *)inData; register short *out = (short *)outData; register short *end = out + bufsize; register int diff = *(in + 1) - *in; while (out < end) { *out++ = *in + (short)((diff * frac) >> 15); frac += inc; if (frac >= 32768) { do ++in; while ((frac-=32767) >= 32768); diff = *(in+1) - *in; } } inData = (char *)in; } else if (format == SND_FORMAT_MULAW_8) { register unsigned char *in = (unsigned char *)inData; register short *out = (short *)outData; register short *end = out + bufsize; register int diff = muLaw[(int)*(in + 1)] - muLaw[(int)*in]; while (out < end) { *out++ = muLaw[(int)*in] + (short)((diff * frac) >> 15); frac += inc; if (frac >= 32768) { do ++in; while ((frac-=32767) >= 32768); diff = muLaw[(int)*(in+1)] - muLaw[(int)*in]; } } inData = (char *)in; } } else { // Stereo data is assumed to be 16-bit register short *in = (short *)inData; register short *out = (short *)outData; register short *end = out + bufsize; register int diff1 = *(in + 2) - *in; register int diff2 = *(in + 3) - *(in + 1); while (out < end) { *out++ = *in + (short)((diff1 * frac) >> 15); *out++ = *(in + 1) + (short)((diff2 * frac) >> 15); frac += inc; if (frac >= 32768) { do in+=2; while ((frac-=32767) >= 32768); diff1 = *(in + 2) - *in; diff2 = *(in + 3) - *(in + 1); } } inData = (char *)in; } *fraction = (float)frac / 32768.0; return inData; }
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: PNI and device mappings Message-ID: <1994Nov28.235658.10028@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 23:56:58 GMT What is the motivation for PNI to have a one-to-one relationship of remote-sites to pni devices? I have 6 sites I call out to, using one modem. I would expect that since I have one modem the call-out would necessitate only ONE unix device (namely /dev/pni0), yet PNI is configured to expect the pniX.config file to match on "pni[0..0a..f]" as seen in pnirun script. My analogy is that I have ONE ethernet device (card) and so I only need ONE unix device, namely /dev/en0. What is the purpose of the line INSIDE the file set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 when pnirun doesn't read this to determine which device is to be used, but basis the device used on the NAME of the config file? This configuration restricts me to call out to only 16 remote sites, since I can only configure "pni0.config" to "pnif.config". Likewise for inbound configurations. Doesn't the XXX.config-inbound file need only match the unix login name XXX, and so why does the inbound file name need to map to a device name, when the set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 line INSIDE the XXX.config-inbound should take care of that? This constraint seems artificial and it would seem that one should be able to configure PNI in such a way that I could have my outbound config files map to the name of the remote-site. Likewise for inbound: snoopy.config charlie.config linus.config-inbound instead of pni0.config pni1.config pni2.config And since I only have one modem to use to call out, each of these config files would reference pni0 as its interface to use in addition to /dev/cufa as its device to use. Curiously frustrated. Brad. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: PNI and Config for routing Message-ID: <1994Nov29.003620.11707@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:36:20 GMT In the PNI 1.11 docs it states: If you'd like a default route installed which uses this interface when the link is established (and removed when the link is dropped), then include the next line. If you don't want a default route dynamically installed when the link is established, omit this line set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 This is very confenient when one has only one pni connection up at one time. When one has more than one PNI connection up, set default will override the previous one. What PNI needs to add here are "hooks" to allow programs (scripts) to run when the link is established, and when the link is dropped. I'd like to propose the following: set Config(pni:ESTABLISHED) /usr/local/etc/pni0.link-up set Config(pni:DROPPED) /usr/local/etc/pni0.link-down This would be much more flexible than just permitting a "route add net default xxx.yyy.zzz.hhh 1" to be added and removed for us. With these two hooks one could add custom routing information (and remove it), invoke sendmail to kick out spooled up mail destined for this route, and anything else one could add to a script or program (such as playing a sound file, etc...) Maybe we can see this added as a feature for the next release of PNI. I hope so, and I hope Mamakos reads this. (I'd email him directly, but I can't find his email address). Brad. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 17:54:50 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <0iqZyum00iV107vKAo@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3ap2vm$e30@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 21-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Tomaz Slivnik@emu.pmms.c > Incidentally, quite apart from the memory leak, I disagree quite strongly > with the statement that in ``reasonable'' applications the feature of > deflating the swapfile is not needed. Fortunately, NeXT's swapfile does deflate the swapfile to the size of the highest page in use. People have logged the size of their swapfile and have proven that the swapfile will in fact shrink when the space is no longer needed. [ ... ] > I think either NeXT is going to fix the problems with its memory management > soon, or else they will go down in history as their own little version of > the MS-DOS 640k barrier. Every single operating system I've ever heard of or used exhibits problems when it runs out of swap space. NeXT's virtual memory system does better than most of its competitors in almost all respects. In fact, I have yet to hear anyone point out an operating system which does (significantly) better than NeXT's VM implementation. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oracle and Next Date: 28 Nov 1994 17:25:03 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste In article <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>, Keith Thomas Sherry (Mr Toad) <ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote: >I'm look for a third party package that will allow me to hit on an >Oracle Database. Specifically the drivers that will allow me to >communicate with Oracle from the NEXT. > >-- > Keith Thomas Sherry > Director of Publicity > Information Systems Association > ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu DBKit (a database access kit included with NEXTSTEP) does this depending on what version of Oracle you have. A better solution is EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) but this is a seperate product and needs NEXTSTEP 3.3. I heard a rumor that the academic version of NEXTSTEP 3.3 would include EOF but I am not sure. The machines in ACS are NEXTSTEP 3.0. If you have further questions feel free to mail me. -Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Message-ID: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 07:43:34 GMT Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an incomplete copy of my signature. Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MetroSuction and NIH files Date: 29 Nov 1994 01:16:21 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3bdvd5$b1s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3bco3v$l3b@lorne.stir.ac.uk> Donald J Baird writes > Is there a version of MetroSuction which can thin NIH apps / > files? Where can I get it? Well, the problem is not MetroSuction but NeXTSTEP. The bug is in 3.2, it can't thin correctly. If you run MetroSuction on 3.3, it works nicely. At least it does on my machine. The bug was in Lipo, and this now thins even for Sparc. Hope this helps, - Stan --- +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ | Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | "Forty-two!" yelled | | SU Computer Science | Loonquawl. "Is that all | | Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 4396 | you've got to show for | | stanj@cs.stanford.edu | seven and a half | | NeXTmail / MIME anytime welcome! | million years' work?" | +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: kxh7639@pinyon.egr.uh.edu (Khawaja Hassan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CAN WE FAX ON A NETWORK ?? Date: 29 Nov 1994 02:55:04 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <3be568$m37@masala.cc.uh.edu> I AM CURIOUS whether one can send a fax or not using network connection rather a modem. any replies would be appreciated. thanx in advance. hassan
From: barroux@licancabur.ebay.sun.com (Juan Carlos Barroux R. - SunService) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hardware model and OS release. Date: 29 Nov 1994 03:26:56 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3be720$j4p@male.EBay.Sun.COM> How could I by using NeXTStep commands know the model of the hardware I am running on and the version of the OS? I understand that the uname command does not exist but that there is a command named hostinfo. Could a kind soul send me the man pages and an example output for the hostinfo, hostid, hostname, ifconfig, ping and arp commands. Thanks in advance. Greetings, j.c. P.D.: I do not have a NeXT box to test this myself :-(
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Version Control Date: 28 Nov 1994 22:57:19 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov28225719@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <3bd9n3$65m@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> To: rvs@vnp.com In-reply-to: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE's message of 28 Nov 1994 19:06:11 GMT Van, I thought you'd like to publically respond to the original authors concerns. >>>>> "GT" == Georg Tuparev <tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> writes: GT>In article <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett GT>Cutler) writes: >>Mike Lokan (mis07d!mikel) wrote: >>: Hi, >> >>: I'm presently reviewing version control software for the NeXT. If anyone >>: out there has any information regarding this subject that they would be >>: willing to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. >> >>I've been trying out DevMan (which is available at ftp.vnp.com), >>and I'm pretty hap with it. My only gripe is that certain procedures >>(like creating a branch) requires going to a command-line; if they >>fixed this, it would be ideal for me. GT>Last week Paul Kunz gave a great talk on that subject (he took part at the GT>OOCNS conference). He recommended the use of CVS and RCVS (for the last, you GT>may want to look at ftp.slac.stanford/pub/sources). The astronomers from ~10 GT>different organizations working on the AIPS++ project are also very happy with GT>CVS. I've just start playing with it, and although it has no GUI, it looks so GT>powerful, that typing commands from the terminal is just fine... GT>-- GT>Georg Tuparev GT>EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524 GT>Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 GT>D-69117 Heidelberg GT>Germany GT>Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail) -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: dg@elsa.preseco.comm.se (Dag Gruneau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: setting up a Web daemon? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 07:41:14 Organization: Communicator Nexus AB Distribution: world Message-ID: <dg.11.0007B036@elsa.preseco.comm.se> References: <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> <3b84i0$e15@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> >In article <STEPHAN.94Nov22231136@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan >Wacker) writes: >> CAD> what they are, I'm not sure. >> >> Can anyone give me a pointer to the documentation for the CERN httpd 2.12? Start looking at: http://info.cern.ch/ and you will find all you need, old documentation up to date server aso. /Dag ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On contract now, real adress: Dag Gruneau Voice:+ 46 (0)10 200 42 59 TeleTalk AB Fax: +46 (0)8 87 46 85 Jordanesv 5 Email: dag.gruneau@teletalk.se S161 53 Bromma NeXT mail: yes please Sweden
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: hide/delete newsgroup in NewsGrazer.app? Date: 29 Nov 1994 12:14:16 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Keywords: newsgrazer, newsgroup Hi there just two simple(?) questions: (1) Is it possible to hide or delete newsgroups in NewsGrazer.app? (2) What can I do against 30000 articles unread in x.y.z and slow countdown (waiting-time ca.10 years :-( )? Thanx for any answer -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ "...and I see your schwartz =====\_/======= is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail welcome ;-)) PS: I have got no chance to manipulate the nntp server.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: ".index.store" serves what purpose? Message-ID: <1994Nov29.122418.17469@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <3bdhl6$d4v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 12:24:18 GMT In article <3bdhl6$d4v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard) writes: > What purpose does the file ".index.store" serve? > It contains a binary index of Digital Librarian. Maybe it is updated periodically and so grows with the growth of indexed docs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o ------- _`\<,_ fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mail Date: 29 Nov 1994 08:38:13 GMT Organization: Swiss Meteorological Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bep9lINNe5s@maz4.sma.ch> Hello! I have a standalone machine connected to Internet via on-demand PPP connection. Each time I open a link to my service provider I retrieve my mail with popOver (POP3). In this operation popOver is run as user AAA. I would like to redistribute this mail so that users BBB and CCC have access to it. A solution could consist in appending /private/spool/mail/AAA to /private/spool/mail/BBB and /private/spool/mail/CCC; but I do not know how to lock the corresponding files. Any ideas ? Any better solutions ? Thanks Jean-Marie Bettems
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep on HP Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:08:57 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3bfg69$e1g@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, because we are thinking of installing NeXTStep on HP: Does NeXTStep for HP run on every HP workstation, or are there any restrictions? What is the minimal HP-workstation hardware configuration for NeXTSTep 3.2 (with Developer tools)? Any pointers/mails/informations are welcome ... Thanks in advance ... Robert -- Robert Mueller Medizinische Informatik Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz) Obere Zahlbacher Str. 69 55131 Mainz
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: hide/delete newsgroup in NewsGrazer.app? Date: 29 Nov 1994 10:01:44 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411291601.AA02405@alleg.EDU> [use only as directed no warranty expressed or implied... I'm operating on 45 minutes of sleep over 26 hours] (1) Is it possible to hide or delete newsgroups in NewsGrazer.app? subscribe to groups you want and then choose 'list' view I suppose you could remove them from your .newsrc. I'd do cp ~/.newsrc ~/.newrsc.orig first, just to be safe (2) What can I do against 30000 articles unread in x.y.z and slow countdown (waiting-time ca.10 years :-( )? Set NewsGrazer to prefetch article numbers, click on group. While it is getting the titles and all, slide down to the bottom and see what the last number is. Quit NewsGrazer. Edit .newsrc's entry for that group to appear that you have already read all but the last 100 or so (you decide how many) posts. Say you go into alt.agriculture.misc and there are 15473 posts there. Quit NG and open .newsrc in your favorite editor. Edit the line that says alt.agriculture.misc! to alt.agriculture.misc! 1-15373 which will leave the last 100 messages marked as unread. Sure it's a hack, but so is NewsGrazer.ack... I mean .app TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked in the first place
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: hide/delete newsgroup in NewsGrazer.app? Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:34:12 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bfs74$bj7@core.symnet.net> References: <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Droll Sven writes > (1) Is it possible to hide or delete newsgroups in NewsGrazer.app? Yes. Use the "Unsubscribe" menu item. > (2) What can I do against 30000 articles unread in x.y.z and slow > countdown (waiting-time ca.10 years :-( )? Edit your .newsrc file for that group. (There's a bug in NewsGrazer that cases a crash if you try to "Catch Up" in a group without reading the titles 1st) -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PNI and Config for routing Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:16:33 GMT Organization: a2i network Message-ID: <3bfr61$bia@hustle.rahul.net> References: <1994Nov29.003620.11707@instep.wimsey.com> NNTP-Posting-User: trout In article <1994Nov29.003620.11707@instep.wimsey.com>, <brad@instep.wimsey.com> wrote: > >This is very confenient when one has only one pni connection up at one >time. When one has more than one PNI connection up, set default will >override the previous one. What PNI needs to add here are "hooks" to >allow programs (scripts) to run when the link is established, and when >the link is dropped. I'd like to propose the following: > >set Config(pni:ESTABLISHED) /usr/local/etc/pni0.link-up >set Config(pni:DROPPED) /usr/local/etc/pni0.link-down > >This would be much more flexible than just permitting a >"route add net default xxx.yyy.zzz.hhh 1" to be added and removed >for us. With these two hooks one could add custom routing information >(and remove it), invoke sendmail to kick out spooled up mail destined >for this route, and anything else one could add to a script or program >(such as playing a sound file, etc...) > >Maybe we can see this added as a feature for the next release of PNI. >I hope so, and I hope Mamakos reads this. >(I'd email him directly, but I can't find his email address). > >Brad. >-- >Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> >Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. >Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA It's already there. Look at the bottom of your pniX.config file: proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } These two hooks allow you to call a program/script when the link goes up or down. Just do an 'exec <program-path> &'. paul kim trout@320.rahul.net -- Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net>
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From: tg@malgudi.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex Subject: Is there bibtex for Motorola? Date: 29 Nov 1994 19:24:49 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: na Message-ID: <3bfv61$gf3@mordred.gatech.edu> Keywords: TeX, LaTeX, BibTeX How can I get bibtex for Motorola machines? I tried to to make web etc. from the sources that I ftp'ed from the CTAN archives but could not succeed. I am sure someone has compiled bibtex, but the Oregon State archives do not seem to have it. Can you help me get a copy, please? Thank you. govind -- T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome. - - (accent on o, a; da pronounced dha; j is not silent) Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net) ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA. http://isye.gatech.edu/CHMSR/people/T_Govindaraj/T_Govindaraj.html
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From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: hide/delete newsgroup in NewsGrazer.app? Date: 29 Nov 1994 22:25:01 GMT Organization: TASC Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bg9nt$ps0@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> References: <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) writes: > > (2) What can I do against 30000 articles unread in x.y.z and slow > countdown (waiting-time ca.10 years :-( )? Quick: click on a different newsgroup and read those messages. Then, start tin (in remote mode: 'tin -r'), the terminal-mode newsreader we have here for the Nexts. Select the newsgroup with many unread articles. Apparently, and I don't know why, tin quickly indexes the articles. Read them in tin or exit tin, restart newsgrazer, and reread the group this time. -- -- This message made entirely from recycled electrons Michael Shunfenthal | mdshunfenthal@tasc.com | The Analytic Sciences Corporation shunfemd@rest.tasc.com | Reston, VA 22090 Compuserve: 76320,122 | 703 834-5000 x2456 Nextmail accepted
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 30 Nov 1994 03:03:55 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bgq2r$b10@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <0iqZyum00iV107vKAo@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <0iqZyum00iV107vKAo@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > >problems when it runs out of swap space. NeXT's virtual memory system >does better than most of its competitors in almost all respects. In >fact, I have yet to hear anyone point out an operating system which does >(significantly) better than NeXT's VM implementation. Again, your experience is different from mine, in that I've had more problems with NeXT's than with Sun's (which I've had zero problems with). - db -- "Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em. This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 30 Nov 1994 05:56:16 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941130115522.253AACUO.malc@white> In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of ImageViewer > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. > WFC > Sorry, I missed this earlier (news was down for almost a month :-( ) If you get OmniImage and OmniImageFilter you get a very wide range of conversion options, including TIFF to GIF. A neat example of the power of filtering services. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tailor.app for NS3.0? Date: 30 Nov 1994 13:03:02 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <3bht66$e22@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> The German IX - Magazine published a review of Tailor.app in its last issue. The stated that it requires NeXTStep 3.1 and later. Is this true? We (are forced to) use NS 3.0 at our site and changes for an update are pretty bad B~((. Anybody got Tailor running under 3.0? Thanks, -Rainer. ------------------------------- "I've seen You somewhere before!" "Easily. I'm somewhere quite often." rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: hide/delete newsgroup in NewsGrazer.app? Date: 30 Nov 1994 03:43:24 GMT Organization: University of Toronto Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bgscs$922@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> References: <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <3bg9nt$ps0@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> In article <3bf5uo$htl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) writes: > > (2) What can I do against 30000 articles unread in x.y.z and slow > countdown (waiting-time ca.10 years :-( )? Or you could just do the smart thing and get NewsBase.app and not have to worry about such trivial matters. Dump NewsGrazer. It sux. Brian -------------------------------------------------------------------------- beebb@spine.med.utoronro.ca beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca brian@borgship.eric.on.ca <- NeXT mail
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff to gif conversion? Date: 29 Nov 1994 19:15:55 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3bgqpb$a9j@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <CzEowF.Lvr@demon.co.uk> <1994Nov26.053555.22074@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste In article <1994Nov26.053555.22074@dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, Operator <root@twilight.Jacobus.stevens-tech.edu> wrote: >In article <CzEowF.Lvr@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew >Knight) writes: >> In article <3add2g$qr4@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> >> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin) writes: >> > Is there a app that will convert tiff files to gif? The version of >ImageViewer >> > I have will input gif but not output gif. Thanks. >> > WFC >> >> Try GraphicsWorkshop, both source and object available at >ftp.cs.orst.edu >> > >I looked for it there and could not locate it. I also checked >sonata.cc.purdue.edu neither had it. If someone could please NextMail me >a copy (tar'ed please) to bill@gauss.stevens-tech.edu I would really >appreciate it. > >It seems that gif is the standard for inline immages on the web, and I'm >setting up a web site (http://twilight.jacobus.stevens-tech.edu). I would >have added some inline immages, but my scanner software only saves in tiff >& eps. Hence my quest for a converter. > >Bill Shaw bill@Gauss.stevens-tech.edu >S-1304 Sactle Point Station bill@laplace.math.steens-tech.edu >Hoboken, NJ 07030 bill@twilight.jacobus.stevens-tech.edu >(201) 216 - 3615 & wshaw@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu If you are having trouble finding it try mailing araftis@galaxy.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis). He is the author and I'm sure he would be glad to help you. -Mont Dover Pacific Computing Inc. (NeXTMail OK:)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 30 Nov 1994 05:21:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bh24c$hu4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <0iqZyum00iV107vKAo@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Tomaz Slivnik@emu.pmms.c wrote: > > Incidentally, quite apart from the memory leak, I disagree quite > > strongly with the statement that in ``reasonable'' applications > > the feature of deflating the swapfile is not needed. > > Fortunately, NeXT's swapfile does deflate the swapfile to the > size of the highest page in use. People have logged the size of > their swapfile and have proven that the swapfile will in fact > shrink when the space is no longer needed. I wonder how many more times we are doomed to go round and round on this idea of what "has been proved". Proof exists for two statements: 1) barring bugs, the NeXT swapfile will shrink. This has been documented by several people. These people can run for months - literally months - without swapfile problems. *and* 2) The bugs aren't completely barred. For some people, in some situations, you can't buy enough hard disk space to keep your machine up indefinitely. There are program bugs which can cause this, and there seems to be some operating-system bugs which can cause this too. We keep hearing about someone who has "proved" one of the two statements true, with the facts for that presented in a way that suggests the other statement is false. Both statements are true. The fact that the swap file will shrink for *some* people does not prove that it shrinks for all people, in all circumstances. Similarly, the fact that some people have extreme trouble with their swapfiles does not prove that the swapfile never shrinks for any NeXT user. Why is it so difficult to understand that both of the statements are true, and in fact they are both proven to be true? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: martin@trefoil.demon.co.uk (Martin Higham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW For Next Date: 30 Nov 1994 07:23:55 -0000 Organization: None to speak of Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bh9ab$1v5@trefoil.demon.co.uk> References: <CzzErH.5y5@demon.co.uk> In article <CzzErH.5y5@demon.co.uk> ieuan@infotec.demon.co.uk (Operator) writes: > Can anyone help point me to a good World Wide Web browser for NeXT mach > 2.0 preferably in the form of an FTP site and just to be really awkward, > could you also E-Mail any replies to me at the following > > ieuan@infotec.demon.co.uk > > To those who can help thanks a million ! > I'd be suprised if you find one. All the WWW development has been since version 3. I'd expect everything to required 3 or latter. OmniWeb is THE web browser for NeXT and I don't know if it runs on version 2. If you want I could let you have a 3.1 that I know longer use. Martin
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep on HP Date: 30 Nov 1994 16:02:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bi7n2$9od@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3bfg69$e1g@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> In article <3bfg69$e1g@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) writes: > Does NeXTStep for HP run on every HP workstation, or are there any > restrictions? What is the minimal HP-workstation hardware configuration > for NeXTSTep 3.2 (with Developer tools)? Q: Which HP PA-RISC systems are supported by NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC, and how should they be configured? A: The release supports the following HP 9000 series 700 system models: 712/60, 712/80, 712/80i, 715/33, 715/50, 715/64, 715/75, 715/80, 715/100, 735, and 755. The 725 has not been tested by NeXT but is reported compatible by our customers. The 705 is not supported. > Any pointers/mails/informations are welcome ... ftp.next.com and www.next.com are pretty helpful for questions like these. -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there bibtex for Motorola? Date: 30 Nov 1994 02:40:52 GMT Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Distribution: na Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Nov29214052@acs3.bu.edu> References: <3bfv61$gf3@mordred.gatech.edu> To: tg@isye.gatech.edu In-reply-to: tg@malgudi.gatech.edu's message of 29 Nov 1994 19:24:49 GMT CC: swift With some perseverence you can get the web sources to compile. I have everything working nicely on a cube 040, with gcc 2.5.4. There was some discussion about how to do this during the last few months on this group which you might be able to find. I unfortunately didn't keep notes on my changes, and can't ftp and diff without a great effort; but I think I have some archived correspondence with some clues. They were some fairly simple declaration incompatibilities with the headers is all, I think. If you want to send me your errors, I might be able to help you. It would be less trouble for me to diff small files (I have to get them 2400 baud). OR, there might be a NeXT help file somewhere on CTAN where you got the web sources. I should maybe put one there myself; I intend to put a hacked version of texview and MakeTeXPK and MakeFonts on there, that work with the newer unix sources. OR, on CTAN and probably on ftp.cs.orst.edu also, there is the NeXTTeX distribution that came with my software, and it has binaries -- I assume you didn't get it because you got a small bundle, or something. The only reason you would need the web sources is to recompile bibtex with one of its constants like wix_fn_space larger. Otherwise the binary in NeXTTeX.tar.gz will do fine. If you think you need a larger bibtex, consider trimming down the .bst file you use by eliminating some of the classes of document that you just never use, like mastersthesis, and so on. You have added code to it to make it too large; but much of the existing code you may not need. Matt
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:07:57 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <Yir9JBm00iUy01Em5Y@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bh24c$hu4@usenet.rpi.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Garance A. Drosehn@eclip > 1) barring bugs, the NeXT swapfile will shrink. This has > been documented by several people. These people can run > for months - literally months - without swapfile problems. Agreed, although one might substitute "years" for "months". I seem to recall someone posting an uptime of around 2 years (600+ days anyway) a while back. I believe it is safe to conclude that at least some releases of NEXTSTEP are capable of staying up "forever" (ie, until a mechanical or electrical failure brings down the system regardless of the stability of the OS). > *and* > 2) The bugs aren't completely barred. For some people, in > some situations, you can't buy enough hard disk space to > keep your machine up indefinitely. There are program > bugs which can cause this, and there seems to be some > operating-system bugs which can cause this too. How can you conclude that? Do you know of anyone who has a machine with 7 available devices (SCSI target ID's 0-6) * 9 GB per device (that's the largest hard drive I've heard of currently available on the mass market) = 63 GB of drive space _AND_ who has had problems with swap space? (The above machine configuration is extreme, but reasonable. I can think of around 30 machines at CMU which literally are limited by the maximum possible physical connectivity of their SCSI busses. These are the "VICE fileservers", which provide a world-wide distributed filesystem known as AFS, the Andrew File System. These machines aren't running NEXTSTEP, however.... :-) > We keep hearing about someone who has "proved" one of the two > statements true, with the facts for that presented in a way that > suggests the other statement is false. Both statements are true. I'd like to hear a real-world citation of someone who could test #2 before accepting it as true. > The fact that the swap file will shrink for *some* people does > not prove that it shrinks for all people, in all circumstances. > Similarly, the fact that some people have extreme trouble with > their swapfiles does not prove that the swapfile never shrinks > for any NeXT user. Let's do a little real-world testing: Q: Has anyone who has dedicated at least 9 GB of drive space to the NEXTSTEP virtual memory system _EVER_ encountered swapfile problems with their system? Q: Has anyone who has dedicated at least 1 GB of drive space to the NEXTSTEP virtual memory system _EVER_ encountered swapfile problems with their system? Q: Has anyone who has dedicated at least 250 MB of drive space to the NEXTSTEP virtual memory system _EVER_ encountered swapfile problems with their system? (*) Q: Has anyone who has dedicated at least 100 MB of drive space to the NEXTSTEP virtual memory system _EVER_ encountered swapfile problems with their system? I'll leave the definition of "problem" up in the air, but please describe what problems you encountered when responding. I predict that no one will answer yes to at least the first three, which demonstrates that getting a 250 MB drive will solve, for all practical purposes, any so-called "problems" with the swapfile. A 250 MB drive goes for ~ $200 now, and I've seen a 1 GB drive posted on the net for $450. I consider these prices to represent a very minor and reasonable expendature for any system which realisticly expects continuous 24 hour/7 day functionality. > Why is it so difficult to understand that both of the statements > are true, and in fact they are both proven to be true? You need to prove #2 first before claiming it to be "proven". ----------------- (*): I use my original 250 MB Seagate ST1280 drive (which came with my NeXTstation) as a swapdisk. At one point, to test the stability of my system before someone who was thinking of getting NEXTSTEP, I ran a copy of _every_ _single_ NEXTSTEP application I could find on my machine simultaneously, and I also ran either 7 or 8 copies of DOOM while doing this. I did not encounter any problems with my swapfile, although I have never seen my machine swap so much. Nor did my machine crash, although eventually the WindowServer failed and brought me back to the Login panel. 8% ls -1 /NextAdmin /NextApps /LocalApps ~games/Apps | wc -l 132 -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 09:11:41 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <gir8URq00iUy81EyAW@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bgq2r$b10@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Nov-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil > Again, your experience is different from mine, in that I've had more > problems with NeXT's than with Sun's (which I've had zero problems > with). Hmm. Well, let's talk about specifics. At one point about 2 years ago, my previous company got a brand-new 32MB SPARC 10 running a virgin install of SunOS 4.1.3 on loan from Sun for a crucial demo, and it possessed a ~400 MB internal drive with a 32 MB swap partition. We were unable to run even a demo of our product (Project 2/Series X) on that machine without running out of VM. The *same* demo would run to completion on an 8MB PC machine running MS Windows 3.1. In order to give the demo, we had to hot-swap in a drive off of one of our own machines in order to provide sufficient swap space. This applies to every Sun SPARC we purchased; we immediately reformatted every machine we got with at least a 64 MB swap partition just so that the machines could be used for any level of development, product testing, demos, or what have you. Now then, Darcy: first, do you have your NeXT machines configured with reasonable minimum low water marks? I'd consider 32MB an absolute minimum for any machine experiencing swapfile problems, and would consider 64 MB as a reasonable, normal l.w.m. Secondly, what kinds of problems have you had with NeXT's swapfiles aside from running out of swapspace? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev) Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Threaded news reader for NeXT? Date: 30 Nov 1994 10:10:41 -0600 Organization: none Message-ID: <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> Hey, does anyone have a threaded news reader for NeXT (commercial of shareware)? Any leads will be appreciated. Sincerely, Ivan Kiselev
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: Oracle and Next Message-ID: <D03DLv.809@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland References: <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:51:30 GMT In article <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > In article <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>, > Keith Thomas Sherry (Mr Toad) <ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote: > >I'm look for a third party package that will allow me to hit on an > >Oracle Database. Specifically the drivers that will allow me to > >communicate with Oracle from the NEXT. > > > >-- > > Keith Thomas Sherry > > Director of Publicity > > Information Systems Association > > ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu > > DBKit (a database access kit included with NEXTSTEP) does this depending on > what version of Oracle you have. > > A better solution is EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) but this is a > seperate product and needs NEXTSTEP 3.3. I heard a rumor that the academic > version of NEXTSTEP 3.3 would include EOF but I am not sure. > > The machines in ACS are NEXTSTEP 3.0. > > If you have further questions feel free to mail me. > > -Mont Well, not quite, actually EOF 1.0 runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 It is a seperate product though (295$) Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: x90adams73@wmich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Powerscan Software on 040 Cube Message-ID: <1994Nov30.132658.24568@wmichgw> Date: 30 Nov 94 13:26:58 EDT Organization: Western Michigan University I have an 040 NeXt Cube running Nextstep 3.0 and an Envisions ENV8100 scanner using Powerscan 2.0. Unfortunately, the scanner software does not recognize the scanner. The company that produced the software had a software patch to correct this problem, but the company is no longer in business. Can anybody help me out. John
From: schock@next02 (Gerald Schock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphic format and alpha channel Date: 30 Nov 1994 18:23:13 GMT Organization: BIW Systemhaus Message-ID: <3bifuh$64o@next01.biw.cube.de> Keywords: Tiff Tif Photoshop alpha channel Hello, working and creating images with Photoshop running under Windows, my problem is that the Photoshop tif format and the Next tiff format are not the same. In case of working with alpha channels the result viewing under Next is quite bad. Does someone know how to solve this problem ? Thanks GS
From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: CASSANDRA SOURCE: Do you have it or know where I can get it Date: 30 Nov 1994 19:14:15 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3biiu7$kpa@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: CASS NEXT LOVELY DATE PROGRAM Dear Netheads, Jiro posted the sources a while back. Just wondering if anyone knows were it can be had. I don't seem to be able to find it. Thanks for your help. Regards, Todd Nathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) Subject: ftp site. Message-ID: <D01sux.Bto@lehman.com> Sender: news@lehman.com (News) Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 21:25:45 GMT Hi, My question is: What is the best ftp site to get a mirror of for Next. I currently am mirroring: ftp.informatik.uni-munchen.de Thanx in advance- --- ------------------------------------------------------- John Safar jsafar@lehman.com I've seen things that you people ...
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT? Date: 30 Nov 1994 23:13:02 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <3bj0tu$stc@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> If you don't need a graphical front end, try trn. It compiles and works fine on Next. And it's completely free. I have version 3.5 (I don't know whether that's the latest or not). I think I got it from ftp.uu.net. You do have to compile it. John In article <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com>, Ivan Kiselev <ivank@MCS.COM> wrote: >Hey, does anyone have a threaded news reader for NeXT (commercial >of shareware)? Any leads will be appreciated. > >Sincerely, >Ivan Kiselev
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU> Message-ID: <9412010215.AA12871@alleg.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) From: Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 21:14:46 -0500 Subject: Re: CASSANDRA SOURCE: Do you have it or know where I can get it Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney) said: Dear Netheads, Jiro posted the sources a while back. Just wondering if anyone knows were it can be had. I don't seem to be able to find it. Thanks for your help. Regards, Todd Nathan ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra .1.5d.s.tar.gz ALSO ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra _CalculatorWidget.s.tar.gz (a little forgotten piece Jiro added later) When in doubt.... check 'peanuts' (the mentioned FTP site) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't be asking now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: PNI freezes print manager Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Nov30095245@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 14:52:45 GMT Hello, This is another PNI question. When I close the slip line after connecting I cannot use the print panel. When I try to print the cursor starts spinning for eternity and the print panel never comes up. How can I prevent this? Please note that I have PNI 1.11 on a NeXT Cube running NS3.2. Thank you, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Where is SimonSays for Intel? Message-ID: <thompsonD04It5.2G3@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 08:41:29 GMT The version on orst is apparently moto-only. I tried mailing info@metrosoft.com with no success -- doesn't MetroSoft own Simon these days? Eric
From: barroux@licancabur.ebay.sun.com (Juan Carlos Barroux R. - SunService) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Models... ??? Date: 1 Dec 1994 08:53:13 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bk2tp$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM> I would like to know how to decode the output of the hostinfo command in a way that I can deduce the marketing model name of the system. For example the output: Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) Processor speed: 25 MHz Should allow me to decide that this is a NeXTstation 40/25... I do not even known what is the difference between a NeXTstation and a NeXTcube. I think that what I am asking for is for a list of the models of black boxes and how to differentiate them. Thanks in advance. Greetings, j.c.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 1 Dec 1994 07:37:12 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bjuf8$435@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Yir9JBm00iUy01Em5Y@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Garance A. Drosehn@eclipse writes: > > 1) barring bugs, the NeXT swapfile will shrink. This has > > been documented by several people. These people can run > > for months - literally months - without swapfile problems. > > Agreed, although one might substitute "years" for "months". I > seem to recall someone posting an uptime of around 2 years (600+ > days anyway) a while back. Well, I went with the conservative comment of "months", because my own personal machines have done that (stayed up for multiple months) a few times now... :-) > > 2) The bugs aren't completely barred. For some people, in > > some situations, you can't buy enough hard disk space to > > keep your machine up indefinitely. There are program > > bugs which can cause this, and there seems to be some > > operating-system bugs which can cause this too. > > How can you conclude that? Do you know of anyone who has a > machine with 7 available devices (SCSI target ID's 0-6) * 9 GB > per device (that's the largest hard drive I've heard of currently > available on the mass market) = 63 GB of drive space _AND_ who > has had problems with swap space? No, but then "indefinitely" is a long long time, too. > > We keep hearing about someone who has "proved" one of the two > > statements true, with the facts for that presented in a way that > > suggests the other statement is false. Both statements are true. > > I'd like to hear a real-world citation of someone who could test > #2 before accepting it as true. There have been several real-world examples posted. Anyone who is audacious enough to say anything like that is usually followed up by someone who says "You must be doing something wrong, because *I* have seen my swapfile shrink. Why, just last Tuesday it dropped by 5 meg". > > The fact that the swap file will shrink for *some* people does > > not prove that it shrinks for all people, in all circumstances. > > Similarly, the fact that some people have extreme trouble with > > their swapfiles does not prove that the swapfile never shrinks > > for any NeXT user. > > Let's do a little real-world testing: I'm going to ignore the stupidity of 9gig of disk space, since that's simply absurd for any machine (*any* machine, not just any NeXTSTEP machine). Could someone dig up the program that Cliff Matthews wrote awhile back? That could chew up space at a rapid rate, even though what he was doing should *not* have caused the problems he documented. From his description of what happened when he ran his program, it seemed he had excellent proof that "something was wrong" in the handling of the swapfile. The longer he ran the program, the worse things got. There did not seem to be an upper bound on the growth of the swapfile, when he ran this program, though I doubt he actually dedicated 9 gig of disk space just to "really" prove it. I have never seen anyone take his program and disprove his description of what happened. Until someone does, I'm inclined to believe that proof. It would be perfectly fine with me if someone *did* disprove the problem he felt he documented, but given how adroitly everyone ignored his efforts I don't see why anyone else should bother jumping thru some dipshit 9 gigabyte hoop to try to prove the same thing a second time. From another perspective, I've been contacted for various amounts of NeXTSTEP support by about 100 different people. Some of those have had virtual memory problems which did not seem reasonable. Admittedly they were running in "low RAM" systems (say, 12meg), but that does not justify the huge swapfiles that would grow on their machines over time. I've seen people whose swapfile would grow over time to around 300meg, even though there's nothing they did that would use up that kind of memory. I could go into more details of the problems as I saw it, but I am fully confident that you wouldn't believe any of it anyway. You've conducted an experiment which did not hit the problem (whatever the problem is), and therefore the problem must not exist. How was the problem solved? By getting more RAM, and moving up their lowat mark. Now these were both good things for them to do for many reasons, and they were much much happier after going to 32 meg (for both RAM and the lowat mark), however the effect on the swapfile was much more dramatic than would be expected by just those two modifications. Thus, from my own observations, I am convinced that something *is* wrong. In my case I just shrug, and tell people they can "buy their way out of the problem" by adding more RAM and moving up the lowat mark. The fact that one can buy their way out of the problem does not prove that a problem does not exist. > Q: Has anyone who has dedicated at least 250 MB of drive space > to the NEXTSTEP virtual memory system _EVER_ encountered > swapfile problems with their system? (*) > I predict that no one will answer yes to at least the first three, > which demonstrates that getting a 250 MB drive will solve, for > all practical purposes, any so-called "problems" with the swapfile. If someone who never uses over 100meg of virtual memory at any given time needs a 300meg swap drive to have enough swapspace, then a problem exists. In the case mentioned above, where the person would see the swapfile grow to 300meg in about 2 weeks, the swapfile almost never went above 100meg after the two changes I mentioned. Once the person got used to having that much free disk space, they started using that 200meg of disk for other things, and did not run into troubles. The big problem with my own ancedote is that machine was certainly not running NS-3.2, so I guess I can't say that my own experience proves that the bug still exists in NS-3.2. I'm pretty sure that Cliffs program was showing up the problem in NS-3.2 though, so my suggestion is still for someone to start with that program and see what it does (or does not) prove. I'd do it, but I'm too busy writing up more usenet articles... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: wolpert@kandel.ds.freinet.de (Florian Wolpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] X11-Server with dps extensions Date: 1 Dec 1994 11:25:03 GMT Organization: FreiNet (XLINK-PoP Freiburg) Message-ID: <3bkbqf$97@bock.freinet.de> Hi, is there an X11-server for a black next which includes DPS extensions ? any hints are welcome ! - Flo. -- XLINK-POP in Freiburg, nicht fragen - anschliessen!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman) Subject: Re: Version Control Message-ID: <D03KEJ.3A1@mtkgc.com> Sender: news@mtkgc.com Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC References: <3bd9n3$65m@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 20:18:18 GMT In article 65m@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes: > In article <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett > Cutler) writes: > > Mike Lokan (mis07d!mikel) wrote: > > : Hi, > > > > : I'm presently reviewing version control software for the NeXT. If anyone > > : out there has any information regarding this subject that they would be > > : willing to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. > > > > I've been trying out DevMan (which is available at ftp.vnp.com), > > and I'm pretty hap with it. My only gripe is that certain procedures > > (like creating a branch) requires going to a command-line; if they > > fixed this, it would be ideal for me. > > Last week Paul Kunz gave a great talk on that subject (he took part at the > OOCNS conference). He recommended the use of CVS and RCVS (for the last, you > may want to look at ftp.slac.stanford/pub/sources). The astronomers from ~10 > different organizations working on the AIPS++ project are also very happy with > CVS. I've just start playing with it, and although it has no GUI, it looks so > powerful, that typing commands from the terminal is just fine... > > -- I saw a posting, and a demo copy of a shareware wrapper of CVS for NeXT, called CVSit. It looked pretty cool. Also, I remember someone saying that the Project Manager uses CVS in the back end, and it is possible through the use of a preamble or something to get that info out. --later, RS
From: eric@american.edu (Eric Prestemon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD player to run under X? Date: 1 Dec 1994 13:17:27 GMT Organization: The American University Message-ID: <3bkid7$15c@paladin.american.edu> Has anyone ported one of the X-based CD player apps to run on a NeXT? If not, are there at least any CD player apps for NeXT that are more feature-filled than the one that came with NS 3.0? Thanks, -Eric
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ftp site. Date: 1 Dec 1994 13:47:27 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bkk5f$1ae1@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <D01sux.Bto@lehman.com> In article <D01sux.Bto@lehman.com>, jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) writes: >I currently am mirroring: ftp.informatik.uni-munchen.de This is by far the best site to mirror. -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting mail? // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 09:36:32 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <EirRxkC00iV2Q12K8M@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bjuf8$435@usenet.rpi.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Dec-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Garance A. Drosehn@eclip > I'm going to ignore the stupidity of 9gig of disk space, since > that's simply absurd for any machine (*any* machine, not just any > NeXTSTEP machine). CMU's 28 vice servers (viceXX.fs.andrew.cmu.edu) are at Internet addresses 128.2.10.1 - 128.2.10.28, and I believe that each machine has at least 20 GB of drive space apiece. Or how about NeXT's central fileserver, which I've been told is a 140 GB Auspex machine? If you choose to consider real world examples to be "stupidity", Garance, well, that's your problem, not mine. Just don't claim that such machines do not exist, please. I haven't checked with my Compiler Design professor in some time, but if I made the effort I probably could cite machines here at CMU with 2+ GB of swapspace. In any event, it is entirely feasible to construct such a machine. I do know that they were using machines with 1 GB dedicated space for swapping 2 years back to do language tools development (things like writing adaptive-error-correcting versions of lex and yacc under SML for a frontend so that the students could use those tools when building compilers in SML). Furthermore, 1 GB dedicated for swapspace is a _standard_ configuration for certain types of computing which have high virtual memory demands. At $450, this is not a major or significant expense for a $5000 workstation, such as an HP 712 or a Cannon object.station. (Of course, most people don't need anywhere near that much, and probably would find a 105MB Quantum drive or a 250MB Seagate to be more than adequate.) > Could someone dig up the program that Cliff Matthews wrote awhile > back? That could chew up space at a rapid rate, even though what > he was doing should *not* have caused the problems he documented. Sure, although misfree'ing the memory from repeated NXMapFile()'s would also work, I believe. [ ... ] > How was the problem solved? By getting more RAM, and moving up > their lowat mark. Now these were both good things for them to do > for many reasons, and they were much much happier after going to > 32 meg (for both RAM and the lowat mark), however the effect on > the swapfile was much more dramatic than would be expected by > just those two modifications. Thus, from my own observations, I > am convinced that something *is* wrong. Yes, NeXT's virtual memory subsystem implementation has bugs. So does every other vendors' implementation (at least as far as I'm aware of). Anyone who has done a fair amount of system administration on various machines should be able to confirm this in general. However, in a year of heavy computing, I have never seen any sign of these bugs having a noticable effect on my machine. YMMV. > In my case I just shrug, and tell people they can "buy their way > out of the problem" by adding more RAM and moving up the lowat > mark. The fact that one can buy their way out of the problem > does not prove that a problem does not exist. I have never claimed that people don't have problems with their swapfiles. I *have* claimed that getting sufficient disk space completely and totally eliminates-- for all practical purposes-- these problems. Specificly, I'd bet 90+ % of the complaints about NeXT's swapfiles would not be written if the person complaining had a 250MB drive as a swapdisk. Why? Because, the difference in system stability between growing a 16 MB swapfile in limited space and growing from a 64MB low-water-mark swapfile on a 250MB swapdrive is like night and day. The improvement is so dramatic that I feel compelled to strongly advocate this as a _working_ solution. This isn't "buying one's way out of a problem"-- this is the normal mechanism for adding swapspace and improving system stability, and you do in fact get what you pay for. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 1 Dec 1994 16:35:06 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <3bktvq$l14@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3aosjq$1e3@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <3aosjq$1e3@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > In article <4inbxAO00iV_451IB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > >Try: > > > >- Command-shift-W > >- Command-shift-R > >- TAB > >- Command-a > >- Command-shift-> > > Question: what do you call a user interface which requires you to repeat > the same complicated task over-and-over again in order to obtain > a simple, desirable and often-required task? > > Answer: poor. .. Aaaand ... it's the first computer designed from scratch ... to be an interpersonal computer .... -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: putaala@core.oulu.fi (Miikka Putaala) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Version Control Date: 01 Dec 1994 12:11:34 GMT Organization: University of Oulu Message-ID: <PUTAALA.94Dec1141134@core.oulu.fi> References: <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <3bd9n3$65m@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE's message of 28 Nov 1994 19:06:11 GMT In article <3b7md6$1ct@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: ... Last week Paul Kunz gave a great talk on that subject (he took part at the OOCNS conference). He recommended the use of CVS and RCVS (for the last, you may want to look at ftp.slac.stanford/pub/sources). The astronomers from ~10 different organizations working on the AIPS++ project are also very happy with CVS. I've just start playing with it, and although it has no GUI, it looks so powerful, that typing commands from the terminal is just fine... Have you ever heard of PCL-CVS, a front-end for emacs. The only complaint is that it can only handle updates (but handles them well). We have used CVS in an EU project for six months and it has handled everything fine. -- _____________________________________________________________ Miikka Putaala Liisantie 7 G 19 90560 Oulu putaala@rieska.oulu.fi putaala@cc.oulu.fi Phone [work] 358 (81) 5531911
From: TAPPD@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Intel Nextstep <--> Logitech Trackball Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:11:18 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <TAPPD.61.000B308D@sam.neosoft.com> We have someone who desperately wants to employ the above combination. Next says it can be done by writing a loadable device driver. I was hoping someone might already know of such a beast roosting on an FTP site... - Dan
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tailor.app for NS3.0? Date: 1 Dec 1994 18:12:45 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3bl3mt$aqh@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3bht66$e22@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <3bht66$e22@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: : : The German IX - Magazine published a review of Tailor.app in its last issue. :The stated that it requires NeXTStep 3.1 and later. Is this true? : : We (are forced to) use NS 3.0 at our site and changes for an update are pretty Tailor 2.0 will work with NEXTSTEP version 3.0. However, the added functionality provided by FirstClassNV's keystones will be lost. In other words, you won't be able to use the Text Reconstruction functionality. Still, most of the basics are there. If you need more information on the remarkable Tailor Postscript Editor, please let me know. -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 1 Dec 1994 14:42:49 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> > >Try: > > > >- Command-shift-W > >- Command-shift-R > >- TAB > >- Command-a > >- Command-shift-> > > Question: what do you call a user interface which > requires you to repeat > the same complicated task over-and-over again in > order to obtain a simple, desirable and often-required > task? > > Answer: poor. ... Aaaand ... it's the first computer designed from scratch ... to be an interpersonal computer .... If it bothers you that much and it's that important to you, take a few minutes and grab TickleServices and mailapp-utilities. ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/services/TickleServ ices.1.11.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/mailapp-utiliti es.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz Install them and add the TickleService that was posted and you'll have your very own 'Reply' feature. They're both packages that should be on your 'must have' list anyway (IMO obviously). What do you call a user-interface that allows even a clueless user like myself to implement new ideas with ridiculous ease? NEXTSTEP. I'll stop now before this becomes a csn.advocasy post... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't be asking now.
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Portrait and landscape posterdoc versus posterprint Date: 1 Dec 1994 06:37:11 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <3bjqun$94@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: Rotated print, postersize docs Hi, I have a customer with a strange small problem. They have a Xerox Poster electrostatic colorplotter attached to their network, and a SUN RIP in front of it, to drive it as a printer. Works like a charm. The problem arises on the NeXT whenever they want to print an odd-sized image, say 55cm tall - 105cm wide. They pop into the Page layout panel in the program (whatever that might be, they all do the same thing!) and define a piece of paper of that size, selects Portrait, and pling!, immediately the Panel swops the two numbers around, and defines the orientation as Landscape, because it takes the larger number to define the orientation of the paper. Now, we have tried many different applications, and no luck, they all do the same, so this seem to be some NEXTSTEP related behaviour. So, why is this a problem, the posterplotter still can print the document. YES, but in doing it as a Landscape plot, first it takes at least twice the time to plot, compared to the Portrait orientation, and second, they are wasting at least twice the paper (and more).... So what we want, is either a way to be able to define a Papersize which still is Portrait, but wider than tall, OR a utility or a piece of software (commercially is fine), that can print postersize documents. I hope someone outthere can help, this is really annoying.... Thanks for any info, best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: enscript problems Date: 1 Dec 1994 22:49:03 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3bljsv$nr2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hello, I am using 5-char tab stops in Edit for my sources. I usually use "enscript" for printing them out, as it fits more lines on a page than normal Edit "Print". In any case, the output gets screwed up. It looks as if it was printed with 8-char stops. I use the following command: enscript -2rGT5 So I think I am setting the tabs to 5, right? The fisrt column is indeed at character 5, but all others (like comments, assembler 4-column input, etc) is just "somewhere". Anyone an idea how to fix that? Thanks, - Stan --- +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ | Stan Jirman -- The Swiss Guy | "Forty-two!" yelled | | SU Computer Science | Loonquawl. "Is that all | | Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 4396 | you've got to show for | | stanj@cs.stanford.edu | seven and a half | | NeXTmail / MIME anytime welcome! | million years' work?" | +-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: enscript problems Date: 1 Dec 1994 18:22:53 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3bllsd$66a@panix.com> References: <3bljsv$nr2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In <3bljsv$nr2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) writes: >I am using 5-char tab stops in Edit for my sources. I usually use >"enscript" for printing them out, as it fits more lines on a page than >normal Edit "Print". In any case, the output gets screwed up. It looks as >if it was printed with 8-char stops. I use the following command: >enscript -2rGT5 >Anyone an idea how to fix that? unix> expand -5 myFileName | enscript -2rG - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oracle and Next Date: 1 Dec 1994 11:52:21 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3bl9hl$pa2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <D03DLv.809@eunet.ch> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste In article <D03DLv.809@eunet.ch>, Alexander Lamb <lamb@eqt.ch> wrote: >In article <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> >mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: >> In article <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>, >> Keith Thomas Sherry (Mr Toad) <ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote: >> >I'm look for a third party package that will allow me to hit on an >> >Oracle Database. Specifically the drivers that will allow me to >> >communicate with Oracle from the NEXT. >> > >> >-- >> > Keith Thomas Sherry >> > Director of Publicity >> > Information Systems Association >> > ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu >> >> DBKit (a database access kit included with NEXTSTEP) does this depending >on >> what version of Oracle you have. >> >> A better solution is EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) but this is a >> seperate product and needs NEXTSTEP 3.3. I heard a rumor that the >academic >> version of NEXTSTEP 3.3 would include EOF but I am not sure. >> >> The machines in ACS are NEXTSTEP 3.0. >> >> If you have further questions feel free to mail me. >> >> -Mont > >Well, not quite, actually EOF 1.0 runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 >It is a seperate product though (295$) > >Alexander Lamb >Expert Quantitative Trading >Geneva / Switzerland What about the client machines running the programs writen using EOF? Does each machine need EOF or will 3.3 do (assuming that 3.3 has the necessary libraries)? -Mont
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 18:47:52 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ira2cu00iUzI=dWJz@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3blfqs$3g6@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Dec-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by John Kheit@gandalf.rutge > This is a bit off subject, but... If someone gets a new say 2gig baracudda, > wouldn't using an old 250meg/105meg drive for swapping be a performance > degrador since the new 2 gig drive should be substantially faster? Interesting question. I'd say probably not, courtesy of the effectiveness of SCSI disconnect/reconnect, which gives you higher throughput for accessing both devices simultaneously. It would depend on usage patterns, system loading, and how the performance of the two drives compare. (Ie, so need to you benchmark real-world systems in order to answer this for specific cases....) > Don't you want your fastest drive doing your swapping to get the best system > performance? Insofar as it is possible, yes. > Also, the swap file compression option was supposed to help performance on > black turbo systems. Will it, generally, be advisable to use swapfile > compression on Pentium class machines? Beats me. That depends on the above factors plus the compressibility of the memory your applications use, plus the amount of RAM in your system, plus what type of video you're running. (Benchmark again. This should be a part of what you pay your system administrators for....) Hmm, I wonder what the impact of using (or not using) swapfile compression has on the swapfile leaks which have been previously discussed? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 1 Dec 1994 16:39:40 -0500 Organization: Rutgers University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3blfqs$3g6@gandalf.rutgers.edu> References: <EirRxkC00iV2Q12K8M@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >workstation, such as an HP 712 or a Cannon object.station. (Of course, >most people don't need anywhere near that much, and probably would find >a 105MB Quantum drive or a 250MB Seagate to be more than adequate.) This is a bit off subject, but... If someone gets a new say 2gig baracudda, wouldn't using an old 250meg/105meg drive for swapping be a performance degrador since the new 2 gig drive should be substantially faster? Dont you want your fastest drive doing your swapping to get the best system performance? Also, the swap file compression option was supposed to help performance on black turbo systems. Will it, generally, be advisable to use swapfile compression on Pentium class machines? (Jeez, more calculations for my chip to bug out on! Between renderman and NS in general, its amazing pentiums dont bomb every 27 seconds rather than years :) Later, John
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for source to `cut` Date: 2 Dec 1994 06:31:41 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bmf0d$c7s@news.cs.brandeis.edu> I think I remember some discussion here about 6 mos. ago when someone was looking for a NeXT port of the standard UN*X utility `cut`, but I didn't need or have it then, so I didn't pay much attention. :-) I *do* need it now -- is it a straight compile from vanilla sources (where are they?) or has someone ported it (where can I get it?) or did someone find a reason why it "couldn't" be done? Thanks for any info, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW For Next Date: 2 Dec 1994 04:58:14 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <3bm9h6$kk7@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <CzzErH.5y5@demon.co.uk> <3bh9ab$1v5@trefoil.demon.co.uk> In article <3bh9ab$1v5@trefoil.demon.co.uk> martin@trefoil.demon.co.uk (Martin Higham) writes: >I'd be suprised if you find one. All the WWW development has been since version >3. I'd expect everything to required 3 or latter. Unless you count X applications. > OmniWeb is THE web browser >for NeXT No longer. Read comp.sys.next.announce. > and I don't know if it runs on version 2. It doesn't. -=EPS=-
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HyperSense Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:28:30 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3bn0cu$l0o@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hy, I am using HyperSense on NeXTStep, and would like to know if there are any HyperSense groups/fo rums out there in the universe. I am also interested to know of any HyperSense-Users so that I can directly discuss questions about HyperSense .... Thanks in advance (A lonely HyperSense user) Chris ... -- Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (U niversitaetskliniken Mainz) 55101 Mainz, Germany (email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de) so that I can directly discuss questions about HyperSense .... Thanks in advance (A lonely HyperSense user) Chris ... -- Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (U
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PNI freezes print manager Date: 2 Dec 1994 07:21:31 GMT Organization: University of Texas, Physics Dept. Message-ID: <3bmhtr$83m@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <MAGNAN.94Nov30095245@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> In article <MAGNAN.94Nov30095245@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes: ! !Hello, ! ! This is another PNI question. When I close the slip line after connecting !I cannot use the print panel. When I try to print the cursor starts spinning !for eternity and the print panel never comes up. How can I prevent this? !Please note that I have PNI 1.11 on a NeXT Cube running NS3.2. !Thank you, ! !Francois Magnan I had a similar problem too. After a PNI link closes down, netinfo freezes and then all kind of apps start freezeing too. What actually happens is that the routing tables are left in a bizarre config that makes netinfo ask the DEFAULT router where the LOCAL domain is, but the DEFAULT router is set to be the external router normally used by the SLIP. Without a working link, this DEFAULT router is unaccessible, and so the netinfo cannot find the local domain, even though it does not need the link to actually access it. There are two things you need to do to solve this problem (or at least these two solved the problem for me, you may have other bugs too). First, fire up NetInfoManager.app, look up the /machines directory of the local domain and make sure it has subdirectories called "localhost" and "loopback"; both should have ip_number 127.0.0.1. If one of these is absent, create it, or you would have no end of trouble. Second, make sure the kernel's routing tables are restored to a proper no-network condition whenever the SLIP link goes down. The simplest way to do it is the following csh script: # Cleaning the routing tables after pni /usr/ucb/netstat -n -r \ |awk '/pni/ {print "/usr/etc/route delete ", $1, $2 }' |sh /usr/etc/route add 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 0 exit This script has to run as uid root, so make sure to have a su-root Terminal window before the link goes down (open it up before starting the link, you never know when it might fail). If you have multiple users on your machine and su-root windows are not a viable option for everyone, make a binary that does exactly the same as this script and make that binary suid root. The above is a hack, but it works. If you find a better solution, let me know. -- Vadim. -- ***************************************************************************** Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (NextMail OK) Assistant Professor of Physics, | #include <std_disclaimer.h> University of Texas at Austin. | #excuse bad_typing.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 1 Dec 1994 23:09:15 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bll2r$7t1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <EirRxkC00iV2Q12K8M@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Dec-94 Re: Swapfile > Behavior by Garance A. Drosehn@eclip > > I'm going to ignore the stupidity of 9gig of disk space, since > > that's simply absurd for any machine (*any* machine, not just any > > NeXTSTEP machine). [arg. as soon as I reread this last night I knew I had screwed up] > If you choose to consider real world examples to be "stupidity", > Garance, well, that's your problem, not mine. Just don't claim that > such machines do not exist, please. Indeed. I needed the qualifier of "personal" machines up there, as that's really what I consider NeXTstep machines. Certainly we have large server machines (the mainframe, if nothing else). Everyone who I have dealt on NeXTSTEP was using it as a personal machine, and as such the idea of reserving 9gig for swap space is pretty silly. As far as I know, everyone who has complained (to me personally) about the ever-increasing swapfile was using it as a personal machine. One that certainly didn't need 9gig of swap space. Maybe your NeXTSTEP customers are different. > > Could someone dig up the program that Cliff Matthews wrote awhile > > back? That could chew up space at a rapid rate, even though what > > he was doing should *not* have caused the problems he documented. > > Sure, although misfree'ing the memory from repeated NXMapFile()'s > would also work, I believe. I don't remember if his program did that. The NXMapFile problem is kinda different, in my own mind at least, as I'm inclined to classify that as a program bug (*). Cliff's program seemed to be more of a real live OS bug, where the program itself seemed (as I remember) to be doing everything perfectly reasonable. (*) = though I do think the documentation should be a lot more explicit about what programmers need to do when using NSMapFile. The NXMapFile thing is probably a source for a lot of these problems though. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bortfeld@intel3.cube.de (Ulrich Bortfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AUTOCAD under SoftPC 4.0 Date: 2 Dec 1994 08:28:48 GMT Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bmls0$pk5@cubenx.cube.de> has anybody used autocad under softpc 4.0 ? please reply to info@cube.de.
From: arnouilj@cedre.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and NEXTIME for HPPA ... WHEN ??? Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:09:09 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <3bmv8l$ock@srv5.esiee.fr> Does I missed something ?? I did not see any announcement about NS 3.3 for HPPA, nor about NEXTIME. Now that every new application software is TRI-FAT, I'm sure a lot of people will buy NEXTSPEP/HPPA solutions. They are so cute, fast and not so expensive !!!! -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Setting up NeXT as SLIP server Message-ID: <D05MFn.FBy@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: SLIP, Intel, server Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:57:23 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Setting up NeXT as SLIP server Message-ID: <D05MH9.Fn4@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: SLIP, Intel, server Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:58:21 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil g NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Setting up NeXT as SLIP server Message-ID: <D05MHz.FrE@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: SLIP, Intel, server Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:58:46 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Connectivity Message-ID: <D05MJC.G2G@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:59:36 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for source to `cut` Date: 2 Dec 1994 14:03:48 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bn9g4$fc3@news.cs.brandeis.edu> References: <3bmf0d$c7s@news.cs.brandeis.edu> [Don't you just *hate* it when someone follows up their own posts?] The utilities `cut` and `paste` (and several others) are available as part of the GNU textutils package, available at *many* FTP archives, including prep.ai.mit.edu; the utilities compile clean, right out of the box. Cheers, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- David A. Sinclair - sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: jkimball@bywater.ece.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Kimball) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tiff editor Date: 2 Dec 1994 17:35:37 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3bnlt9$g9u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I recently got abSIRDitieS off ftp.cs.orst.edu. It requires an 8-bit greyscale tiff as input. I've tried saving images from Draw.app as tiffs, but they're saved as color. Is there an editor out there that will save drawings as 8-bit greyscale tiffs, or alternatively, a utility to convert a color tiff to greyscale? -- Jonathan Kimball jkimball@bywater.ece.uiuc.edu NeXTmail OK I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide Is a wild call and a clear call which may not be denied...
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FTP'able SoftPC 4.0 demo? Date: 2 Dec 1994 14:27:16 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3bnsek$b04@panix.com> Hi. Subject says it all. Is there an ftp'able SoftPC 4.0 demo someplace? - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Reading compressed manuals Date: 2 Dec 1994 17:08:25 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bnka9$kov@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Sometime ago I read about a software that would allow to read compressed Unix man pages or NeXT Online manuals (I do not remember which of the two). In other words, the manuals could be compressed on the disk and would only be uncompressed if they are read. Anybody remember what that software is called? (and where to find it). Thanks in advance. -- Andreas Obst Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics Virginia Tech obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 11:48:59 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <Uirozv600WBL03LkVn@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bll2r$7t1@usenet.rpi.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Dec-94 Re: Swapfile Behavior by Garance A. Drosehn@eclip > [arg. as soon as I reread this last night I knew I had screwed up] :-) For a second, I had thought I was arguing with Mike Dahmus. (Sorry about that, but it had to be said.) [ ... ] > Everyone who I have dealt on NeXTSTEP was using it as a personal > machine, and as such the idea of reserving 9gig for swap space > is pretty silly. 9 GB for swap space is unnecessary, agreed. On the other hand, 100 MB (or 250 MB) isn't at all unreasonable, even for a personal machine. Yeah, it would be nice if NeXT's swapfile did better under low-available-swapspace conditions. Until it does, though, getting a decent-sized swapdisk works. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu (Sherwin Singer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SBook and NXFax Date: 2 Dec 1994 22:07:48 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <3bo5rk$c8d@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: SBook NXFax Does anyone use SBook and NXFax? According to the folks at both B&W software and Sarrus, SBook has a bug: SBook fails to create a lock on the modem port, causing the system to panic. Has anyone found a work-around? -- Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy Ohio State University (614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: monckton@tiger.mech.ubc.ca (Simon Monckton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Web browsers for Nextstep? Date: 2 Dec 1994 17:55:53 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3bnn39$ovo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> does anybody know of any good WWW browsers for Nextstep? I have heard of OmniWeb but have had no success in finding the ftp site (or at least one that is still active.) Any Suggestions?
From: mmccullo@usit.net (Michael McCulloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Request for Solitaire.app suggestions Date: 2 Dec 1994 23:36:21 GMT Organization: United States Internet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bob1l$og2@use.usit.net> As one of the authors of the free Solitaire.app, I'm looking at making some additions to the application's features. I'd like some feedback from folks about what they'd like to see. Here are my ideas: - Add save/load capability for games in progress - Undo/redo feature (with limited buffer) - Remove the large card set option -- stick with the small size - Write a four hand Hearts game (with the computer playing three of the hands) I'd really like to nix the large card size, since it takes up disk space and memory and adds to the complexity of writing new games since you must build two IB interfaces per game. Most of the games require 1280x1024 to be able to fit the large card game area on-screen, which is a resolution I'd think precious few people actually run. The undo/redo feature is something that could waste much of my time for little payoff. I personally don't think it is fair to allow unlimited undo in a game. It's basically cheating. Perhaps a one or two move undo/redo would be adequate? As far as speed, I'm afraid card dragging is about as fast as it is gonna get. Also, there have been requests for click to select source and click to select destination, instead of interactive dragging. This is something that would require wholesale redesign of the CardSet classes and games, and is something I personally do not prefer after experiencing FreeCell under Win32. Also, if you have any games you'd like to see implemented, send me a rules file just like the ones displayed with the existing games (as complete as possible, please). I can accept NeXTmail, so graphics/rich text are preferred. Finally, how many people would pay $5 for the four hand Hearts module? Of course, the game engine remains free. -- Michael McCulloch mmccullo@usit.net (NextMail Accepted!) Oak Ridge, TN ---
From: beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tickle Services mail reply patch Date: 2 Dec 1994 18:06:42 GMT Organization: University of Toronto Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bnnni$nt4@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> Keywords: Tickle Services, mail reply Hello all, I'm afraid I have misplaced the copy of the Tickle Services post that allowed one to have the reply feature in Mail.app. Would some kind soul please repost it, or mail it to me? Thanks, Brian ==================================================================== beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca brian@borgship.eric.on.ca <- NeXT mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Graphic format and alpha channel In-Reply-To: schock@next02's message of 30 Nov 1994 18:23:13 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Dec2133611@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <3bifuh$64o@next01.biw.cube.de> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 21:36:11 GMT Gerald Schock writes: Gerald> Hello, working and creating images with Photoshop running under Gerald> Windows, my problem is that the Photoshop tif format and the Next Gerald> tiff format are not the same. In case of working with alpha channels Gerald> the result viewing under Next is quite bad. Does someone know how Gerald> to solve this problem ? Hmm. I've used Photoshop under Solaris to edit my NeXT icons with no problem. The TIFF comes in with Alpha as an added channel. Are you saving as 24-bit TIFFs? Try starting with a NeXT icon TIFF - can you even read them right? If not, it may be a Photoshop on Windows problem. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jliew@cs.uno.edu (Jay Liew) Subject: Vectorizing Images? Message-ID: <1994Dec2.215214.13009@cs.uno.edu> Keywords: Vector Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: Smart Object Technologies, Inc. Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 21:52:14 GMT Hi all, Is there an app out there that can convert a graphic into a vector image? What I'm referrering to is something like autocad's .DXF format, for example. I would appreciate any help or redirection. Any comments on approximately how difficult this would be to do myself may also help. (-: Thanks in advance! -- Jeff Smart Object Technologies, Inc. (NeXTMail YES!) e-mail : Jeff_Vega@smobject.com
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC 4.0 Date: 2 Dec 1994 18:11:54 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <3bno1a$eic@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> I have recently purchased softPC 4.0 for my P90 running NS 3.2(white). I would like to use my existing dos partition (~200 MB) as my hard drive for softPC. The problem is that Insignia claims that I cannot access a hard drive (dos partition) larger than 32 MB because my actual hard drive is larger than 500 MB. Insignia claims that the dos patch (1607_DOSFileSysPatch) that is supposed to allow one to address dos partitions larger than 32 MB does not work; however, I spoke to people at NS that claim that the dos patch does work. My problem is that I cannot get it to work (address my 200 MB dos partition). If anyone has any ideas to share so that I do not have to create a redundant hard drive for softPC, I would be grateful. Thanks in advance. Please email to: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu
From: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: binhex tool for NeXT Date: 2 Dec 1994 20:52:41 -0500 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <3boj19$obf@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Is there a program that will decode binhex files? I know that Opener.app has one, but it is a fairly old binary. Anyone have the latest? Someone sent me a file that was binhex (version 8? or was it 4?) that i want to un-binhex. thanks in advance kevin .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: root@engine.dgcp.doc.ca (Operator) Subject: Working mailing list software? Message-ID: <1994Dec2.212538.14175@clark.dgim.doc.ca> Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News) Organization: Communications Canada Date: Fri, 2 Dec 94 21:25:38 GMT Hi, I was wondering what sort of mailing list software people have working. I have tried to compile: Listserv, Listproc, and Procmail on my Slab and they all refuse to compile. Has anyone got these damn things running? Is there a certain variety of source that workers best? Thanks, Tyson -- Tyson Macaulay Internet Applications Consultant CDD/DGCP/Industry Canada (613) 9904236 email: root@engine.dgcp.doc.ca
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 2 Dec 1994 22:28:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bo72r$e7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> In article <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/mailapp-utiliti > es.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz This path does not exist on 129.187.249.15 -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Public Domain X server/client for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 06:37:58 GMT subject says it all - does such an animal exist? -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!)
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Routing problems on PNI server Date: 3 Dec 1994 06:54:17 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <3bp4mp$i11@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: PNI, server I am trying to set up a machine as a SLIP server with PNI. However, I do not know much about network matters such as routing and I think I am having a routing problem. From my client I can get anywhere in the subdomain of the server, and one domain higher, but can't get past that. I cannot transfer any files of any length before the PNI link goes down. I seem to be able to get to at least the primary nameserve, one domain higher than the PNI server. I have used the arp command to permanently publish the location of the client from the server. When PNI is running on the server the server cannot get outside the two domains from above. When PNI is down, I can go to Oz from the server machine if I wanted to. I have gotten a lot of help from you all out there, I am hoping I can get some more help for this problem. Thanks! Alan
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Date: 3 Dec 1994 00:27:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3boe1u$ru0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4ira2cu00iUzI=dWJz@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Hmm, I wonder what the impact of using (or not using) swapfile > compression has on the swapfile leaks which have been previously > discussed? Back in NS-3.0 days I tried some experiments with this, and the swapfile would grow with either setting. I haven't looked at it since then, though. I'm not even sure you can turn off the compression anymore. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SEARCHING: for the author of DeskTop and a FAT version Date: 2 Dec 1994 22:43:58 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3bo7ve$809@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: FAT FAT FAT BORK BORK BORK Hello there folks. Just looking for the author of DeskTop. Email to him has bounced, with no forwarding address <sieu@pasteur.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Todd
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tickle Services mail reply patch Date: 3 Dec 1994 08:32:39 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412031431.AA12405@alleg.EDU> This is the service that Scott Hess sent to me, except that I changed the path to Carl Edman's 'nextmail' to fit my system. You may have to edit the "$HOME/Unix/bin/nextmail" to your correct path (try 'which nextmail' at the commandline if you're unsure where it is or if you have it. TjL PS -- MAKE SURE that you 'enable' this service in TickleServices' Atrributes Inspector. I use a different copy that I've tinkered with, and just keep this as a backup. ALSO in TickleService's Preference panel, add a custom Pasteboard Type Short form: NXMailPboardType Long form: NeXTmail Message pasteboard type --- Use the Copy As Service for everything below this line --- # Begin TickleServices Version 1.1 Data "Enabled" = "NO"; "Menu Item" = "Mail/Reply Text-orig"; "Send Type" = "NXMailPboardType"; "Tcl" = "\ # Reply to the selected email in NeXTSTEP Mail.app. Based on the # service posted to comp.sys.next.software by cedman@princeton.edu # (Carl Edman). # # shess@winternet.com (Scott Hess) # # Usage: Select the mail message in question, hit the # \"Services/Mail/Reply Text\" entry (use a Command-key accelerator # if you want), and it will snarf the text of the message, strip # off the header lines, quote the text with your selected quote # string, and open a pre-loaded Compose window. if {![file executable $HOME/Unix/bin/nextmail]} { alertpanel $TSServiceName \"Service requires the nextmail program\ from Carl Edman's mailapp utilities.\" \"OK\" return } elseif {[info procs refmt]==\"\"} { alertpanel $TSServiceName \"Service requires the refmt proc from \ the Mail.ts initialization section.\" \"OK\" return } elseif {[info procs quote]==\"\"} { alertpanel $TSServiceName \"Service requires the quote proc from \ the Mail.ts initialization section.\" \"OK\" return } # Get a copy of the email message. set mail [exec /usr/bin/rtf-ascii << [pasteboard read $NXRTFPboardTyp\ e]] # Snarf the header lines and the body. regexp \"((\\[^\\n\\]+\\n)*\\n)(.*)\" $mail null header null body # Build a body for the reply message. set body [refmt [quote $body]] # Parse out the From: and Reply-To: lines, and determine who # to respond to. set from \"\" regexp \"(^|\\n)From: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null null from if {[regexp \"(^|\\n)Reply-To: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null null s\ ender]==0} { set sender $from } # Parse out the Subject line and add a leading Re:, if necessary. if {[regexp \"(^|\\n)Subject: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null null su\ bject]!=0} { if {[regexp \"^R\\[Ee\\]: \" $subject]==0} { set subject \"Re: $subject\" } } else { set subject \"\" } # Grab the message-id to lead the message with. if {[regexp \"(^|\\n)Message-ID: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null null\ leader]} { set leader \"In article $leader,\\n\\t$from writes:\\n\" } else { set leader \"\" } # Send off the message. exec $HOME/Unix/bin/nextmail -e -s \"$subject\" $sender << $leader$bo\ dy "; # End TickleServices Data
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Free/cheap and easy SLIP/CSLIP/PPP implimentation for NS/Intel?? Date: 3 Dec 1994 09:37:25 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <3bpvr5$rh4@acmex.gatech.edu> The subject just about says it. I need to find a free or cheap version of SLIP, CSLIP, or PPP for my Nextstep/Intel box. I use the MUX serial driver for my internal 14.4 modem, but I'll probably pick up an external 28.8 modem to hook up to my built in serial card ("Com2"/port B, which is handled by the next provided driver right now). I'm about to get a free slip/cslip/ppp account from my job (working at an internet provider) (which protocol I use is up to me, so any of the above is fine, but I would expect cslip and ppp to be less likely to be free/cheap). I would like whatever it is to come with some good descriptions of how to install the software, as I don't know whether or not the simple network manager, etc, will work without an ethernet card. (The online docs are all still rather next-hardware specific, unfortunately). So, the more descriptive the better. Thanks John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.=============== AOL Tech Support: telephone the Internet and ask their tech support people.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) Subject: Does NetWare Client Work With 4.0? Message-ID: <1994Dec3.144057.29156@olaf.wellesley.edu> Sender: news@olaf.wellesley.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Wellesley College Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 14:40:57 GMT Does anyone know if the NetWare client included with NEXTSTEP/FIP 3.2 (or 3.3, for that matter) will work with NetWare 4.0x servers? I've heard of compatibility with 3.12, but no mention of 4.0. Thanks Carl ========================================================================= Carl Jones Internet: cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu Systems Librarian Voice: (617) 283-2172 Margaret Clapp Library Fax: (617) 283-3640 Wellesley College [No NeXT Mail Please] Wellesley, MA 02181 ========================================================================= ~
From: todd@alembic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AUTOCAD under SoftPC 4.0 Date: 02 Dec 94 20:45:01 Organization: Colorado Supernet Distribution: fj Message-ID: <todd.94Dec220451@ticonderoga> References: <3bmls0$pk5@cubenx.cube.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >has anybody used autocad under softpc 4.0 ? >please reply to info@cube.de. Why use Autocad under SoftPC 4.0, when you can use ZZVolume.....
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 3 Dec 1994 15:23:59 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bq2if$p9@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3bo72r$e7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3bo72r$e7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > In article <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) > writes: > > > ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/mailapp-utiliti > > es.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz > > This path does not exist on 129.187.249.15 But it should exist (I checked a few minutes ago and it did). Maybe the mount point of the NeXTSTEP archive was temporarily unavailable. BTW, you should use the symbolic address ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de instead of 129.187.249.15. The following TickleService works with version 1.1x of TickleServices: "Key Equivalent" = "R"; "Menu Item" = "Mail/Reply"; "Send Type" = "NeXTmail Message pasteboard type"; "Tcl" = "\ set mail [exec /usr/bin/rtf-ascii << [pasteboard read $NXRTFPboardTyp\ e]] set pos [string first \"\\n\\n\" $mail] set header \"\\n[string range $mail 0 [expr {$pos}]]\" regexp \"\\nFrom: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null from regexp \"\\nDate: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null date regexp \"\\nSubject: (\\[^\\n\\]*)\\n\" $header null subject if {[regexp \"^R\\[Ee\\]: \" $subject]==0} { set subject \"Re: $subje\ ct\" } set newtail [refmt [quote [string range $mail [expr {$pos+2}] end] \ $quoteString]] set newmail \"On $date $from wrote:\\n$newtail\" exec /usr/local/bin/nextmail -e -s \"$subject\" $from << $newmail "; Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ University of Munich Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Germany
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 3 Dec 1994 09:43:12 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412031542.AA13236@alleg.EDU> >>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/maila >>pp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz This path does not exist on 129.187.249.15 -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu Really? % ftp 129.187.249.15 <connected> cd /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/ % 129.187.249.15:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail > ls MailTOC_Dump.README pine.3.07.s.tar.gz MailTOC_Dump.s.gz pine.README PGP-NeXTmail.README popper.NI.bd.tar.gz PGP-NeXTmail.d.tar.gz popper.README PGPService.README popper.s.README PGPService.d.tar.gz popper.s.tar.gz cvt_mailrc.N.bs.tar.gz receiptfilter.README cvt_mailrc.README receiptfilter.s.tar.gz denext.README rmail.4.15.s.tar.gz denext.s.tar.gz rmail.README elm2.4/ send.N.bs.tar.gz mailapp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz send.README mailapp-utilities.1.2.README send_attach.NI.b.tar.gz mailforward.1.2.d.tar.gz send_attach.README mailforward.README sendmail/ mailforward.s.tar.gz smail.3.1.s.tar.gz mh.6.7.README smail.README mh.6.7.s.tar.gz tnextmail.1.0.README n2m.1.3.s.tar.gz tnextmail.1.0.s.tar.gz n2m.README zend.1.0.s.tar.gz netinfo-sendmail.s.tar.gz zend.README pine.3.07.NI.b.tar.gz %129.187.249.15:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail > Current time is: 10:36 AM FTP SITE: 129.187.249.15 DIR: /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/ FILE: mailapp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz README: mailapp-utilities.1.2.README sorry for any confusion, but the dir does exist, as does the file. Did I mess up the form? I thought it was ftp://SITEADDRESS/path/to/the/file/foobar TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: NeXTTIME where can i find it ? Message-ID: <D06MI3.Hq@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <3bcnh9Ehi@uni-erlangen.de> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 11:56:26 GMT In article <3bcnh9Ehi@uni-erlangen.de> sz0207@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Sven Gallenbacher) writes: > I am seraching for NeXTTIME on a lot of FTP Sites, but i didn't > find it. > > Where can i get NeXTTIME from ? (from which FTP-Site ?) You will not find it on any FTP-site. It is commercial and you can get it direct from NeXT. Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: tiff editor Message-ID: <1994Dec3.234242.4184@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert) Organization: None References: <3bnlt9$g9u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 23:42:42 GMT Jonathan Kimball writes > I recently got abSIRDitieS off ftp.cs.orst.edu. It requires an 8-bit greyscale > tiff as input. I've tried saving images from Draw.app as tiffs, but they're > saved as color. Is there an editor out there that will save drawings as 8-bit > greyscale tiffs, or alternatively, a utility to convert a color tiff to > greyscale? If you have access to a Developer version, then IconBuilder.app will do it. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome) --
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? Date: 3 Dec 1994 22:08:53 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3bqq9l$5do@core.symnet.net> References: <1994Dec2.215214.13009@cs.uno.edu> Jay Liew writes > Hi all, > Is there an app out there that can convert a graphic into a vector > image? What I'm referrering to is something like autocad's .DXF format, > for example. I would appreciate any help or redirection. Any comments > on approximately how difficult this would be to do myself may also help. There's a program that comes with bz for the SGI that does something line that. Check out bz on ftp.sgi.com. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 3 Dec 1994 18:45:17 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bqebt$t4p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <9412031542.AA13236@alleg.EDU> In article <9412031542.AA13236@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > >>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/maila > >>pp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz > > This path does not exist on 129.187.249.15 > Really? GatorFTP shows that the only directory under "/pub/comp/platforms" is "pc". No "/pub/comp/platforms/next" appears. -- Todd
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: If I upgrade my black 3.0 to 3.2, will it become slow? Date: 4 Dec 1994 02:22:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3br94t$qj7@agate.berkeley.edu> I know that on Macs and PCs, OS upgrades mean that your machine will perform slower. Have any of you found that to be the case with a NeXT? Specifically, a nonturbo cube with 24 megs RAM? Please email suggestions below--thanks in advance. -- ******************************************************* Jessica L. Mosher "I don't DO holidays." email: cooncat@ella.mills.edu NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu "Life is what happens when you're making other plans." --John Lennon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Boot(Configuring Device Drivers) Halts? Message-ID: <D09Bry.4Ln@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 22:57:29 GMT I wanted to move my modem from one serial port to the other. My AMI Enterprise IV EISA system has been running NS3.2 flawlessly; any previous problems were self-induced and based on ignorance; I suspect my current challenge falls in the same category <:-). Changing comm ports seemed simple enough, right? Wrong! I ran Configure.app. Before I began doing some damage, my workable configuration matched port address 0x3F8, IRQ3 & IRQ4. The IRQ settings always perplexed me, because I expected to see a one-to-one relationship between port addresses and IRQs. I tried to add another serial port(0x2F8), referencing the same serial port driver, but(of course) ended up with IRQ conflicts. So I removed the new port from Configure; thus, restoring my original configuration. Then, I changed the port address from 0x3F8 to 0x2F8, saved the configuration, and powered down. The result is that my system doesn't boot past configuring device drivers: Checking disks /dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check Faking root mount entries Configuring Device Drivers The above list is the last of what is written to my screen. Unfortunately, I cannot halt or restart the system, so I have to withstand a timely disk restore thereafter! Opting for config=Default at the boot prompt was no help. It read through various drivers, then repeatedly printed the following line: : thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735 whatever *that* means. I *am* able to boot in single-user mode. In this mode using emacs, I edited the /usr/etc/SerialPorts.config/Instance0.table, changing the cufb port address range from 2f8-2ff to 3f8-3ff, but to no avail. I suspect I need to find some central file that references all the declared drivers that I made using Configure.app, and de-reference the serial port driver. Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Does PDO for Solaris 1.x require DNS/NIS? Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 03 Dec 1994 19:01:34 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec03.190134.14849@cyantic.com> We have just installed PDO on our Solaris 1.1 system, but cannot get our Next clients to access the PDO application we have running. It works fine from Next to Next and also directly on the Sun. Does DNS or NIS have to be running on the Solaris box? What will the behavior be if UDP checksums aren't running? How can you tell if they are running? Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: If I upgrade my black 3.0 to 3.2, will it become slow? Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 00:04:18 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kisIrGC00iUzI7tmpF@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3br94t$qj7@agate.berkeley.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Dec-94 If I upgrade my black 3.0 t.. by Jessica L Mosher@wombat > I know that on Macs and PCs, OS upgrades mean that your > machine will perform slower. Have any of you found that > to be the case with a NeXT? Specifically, a nonturbo cube > with 24 megs RAM? NEXTSTEP 3.2 seems to use less memory and swap less than 3.0. Besides, upgrading is definitely worth it, as one gets MAB support, several fixes, etc, etc. You might want to wait for 3.3, though.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: problems with Postscript Previewer Message-ID: <D01q25.79@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <1994Nov25.140717.19824@cnet.fr> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 20:25:16 GMT In article <1994Nov25.140717.19824@cnet.fr> potonnie@freeway.issy.cnet.fr (Olivier POTONNIEE) writes: > I often have problems reading postscript files from non-NeXT > programs (WinWord, Frame, ...). My Preview.app (v3.0) seems to be > quiet restrictive about Postscript, is there others Postscript > interpreters on NeXT ? I heard about Tailor, what is it, and where > can I find it ? I guess the reason for your difficulties is, that most Windows programs put a binary header in the PostScript-file which allows it to preview the file even in programs without Postscript interpreter. You should be able to configure the Windows Postscript driver not to put this header in the file. Or you can edit the file by hand and remove the header. Tailor is a program to edit Postscript files. You can get it from DART in Hamburg/Germany (+49 40 38023-0, Fax: 38023-290, info@dart.de). Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: If I upgrade my black 3.0 to 3.2, will it become slow? Date: 4 Dec 1994 08:14:29 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3brtp5$ag1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3br94t$qj7@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <3br94t$qj7@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher) writes: > I know that on Macs and PCs, OS upgrades mean that your > machine will perform slower. Have any of you found that > to be the case with a NeXT? I have not found my slabs to be any slower with 3.2 than with 3.0. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Boot(Configuring Device Drivers) Halts? Message-ID: <D09JnF.MAF@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <D09Bry.4Ln@eskimo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 01:47:31 GMT Here is some followup information to my original post. When I ran Configure.app, I had booted as me; so I was prompted to log in as root before proceding with Configure. I found the following lines in /usr/adm/messages: Workspace[175]: logged in syslog: make_services: someone else is already making services Configure[191]: Assertion failed: You removed a View from the View hierarchy that had been lockFocus'ed loginwindow[169]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 42 sv 0 ss 42 halt: halted by root syslogd: going down on signal 15 I've got a feeling that Configure's View has everything to do with my boot problem. I just don't have a *clue* what this View is, whether or not it is some link file. What *is* a View hierarchy? Typically, the list of registered devices that I see on the screen goes something like this before disk checking and root mounting is done: sg3 at sc0 fc0 fd0 fd0a PS2Mouse event0 kmDevice0 howto 0 My system now halts at this point. Normally the following order of devices would appear: com0 VGADisplay0 Display0 I have yet to figure out what files Configure.app touches. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Boot(Configuring Device Drivers) Halts? Message-ID: <D09tAL.Ipn@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <D09Bry.4Ln@eskimo.com> <D09JnF.MAF@eskimo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 05:15:51 GMT I managed to recover, though I am at a loss at *what* went wrong. After booting in single user mode, I edited out "SerialPorts" from the Active Drivers line in /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table(now I understand where all those device Instance references come from during bootup). Then I restarted my system. Having logged on as root, I re-edited that Instance0.table, and added back in the "SerialPorts" string. Next I ran Configure.app. It wasn't enough to save my configuration and leave it at that; my problem persisted when I did. So, while in Configure, I removed Serial Ports, and saved my configuration. Then I powered out and back on, ran Configure, and added Serial Ports back into my configuration. I cycled the power once more, and booted up without incident. Whew! So much for my Saturday. Well, I'm fairly certain another file is being updated by Configure.app besides the system Instance0.table file. I plan to explore this further. Even when I had edited out SerialPorts, I found I could not add Serial Ports(while in Configure) without running into IRQ conflicts; I'm fairly certain that /usr/Devices/SerialPorts.config/Instance0.table plays IRQ "cop" because it has an "IRQ Levels" line. If I am on track with this, then an additional edit to this file might have made it unnecessary to run Configure at all. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 4 Dec 1994 11:18:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bs8hk$n9@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3bqebt$t4p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3bqebt$t4p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > > >>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/maila > > >>pp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz > GatorFTP shows that the only directory under "/pub/comp/platforms" is > "pc". No "/pub/comp/platforms/next" appears. Then you should stop using your version of GatorFTP and switch to other graphical apps (e.g. Yftp). Your copy of GatorFTP seems to have problems with links. ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de is part of a huge "virtual" archive where parts of the archive are mounted from external sources and are combined via links. I tried Yftp (available also from the above mentioned ftp site) and it worked without any problems. Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/ University of Munich Leopoldstr. 11B Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Germany
From: sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: If I upgrade my black 3.0 to 3.2, will it become slow? Date: 4 Dec 1994 11:23:32 GMT Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bs8rk$d89@status> References: <kisIrGC00iUzI7tmpF@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <kisIrGC00iUzI7tmpF@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Dec-94 If I upgrade my > black 3.0 t.. by Jessica L Mosher@wombat > > I know that on Macs and PCs, OS upgrades mean that your > > machine will perform slower. Have any of you found that > > to be the case with a NeXT? Specifically, a nonturbo cube > > with 24 megs RAM? > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 seems to use less memory and swap less than 3.0. Besides, > upgrading is definitely worth it, as one gets MAB support, several > fixes, etc, etc. You might want to wait for 3.3, though.... > -Chuck I agree. I just did the 3.0 ->3.2 upgrade and found a number of things sped up considerably. I can now run any MAB apps I ftp, and finally a number of problems I had with Ensemble (my pet peeve) sorted themselves out automagically. Well worth it. -- Steve sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz NeXTmail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: Public Domain X server/client for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <D09Gr7.4wF@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper References: <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 00:45:07 GMT In article <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: > subject says it all - does such an animal exist? > > -- > Scott Davenport > sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu > (NeXTMail OK!) I sure wish some kind soul with the source would compile one up for us!! :) Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: PPP 2.6.1 Works Great!! Message-ID: <D0AG49.6rH@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:28:57 GMT Just installed (talk about painless!!) The latest PPP package can always be found at ftp.duq.edu in /pub/next/ppp. The newest version there now is PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz and you also need to get the serial Mux driver to fix a bug with the NeXT serial port driver... For anyone who hasn't tried this package yet, do it! If you're running SLIP currently, there's even LESS to do (fill in the blanks in one script and link a couple of files!!) Here's my script for a ZyXEL U1496E (I may have overkill in the modem setup string, but I took it from my ZyXEL SLIP dial script): ----cut here ---- #!/bin/sh # -*- Fundamental -*- # # kdebug 1 is SC_DEBUG # 2 is SC_LOG_INPKT # 4 is SC_LOG_OUTPKT # 8 is SC_LOG_RAWIN # 16 is SC_LOG_FLUSH # # add together to get debugging you want # Remember: for HW flow control you must you /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb # # # This is an example that dials a modem, logs into a remote Annex # terminal server and starts ppp. # exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1006 lcp-echo-interval 15 \ lcp-echo-failure 5 crtscts defaultroute debug modem -pap -chap \ connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "ATZ0L1M0+FCLASS=0S42.1=0S38.3=1S38.5=1S2=128S46.2=1&K4&N0M0V1Q0X5&C1&D3&H 3&J0&L0&M0&R1&S0N1" "OK" ATDT6300970 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT "" ogin: yourid assword: yourpassword choice: 3' \ /dev/cufb 57600 lock ----cut here ---- Note that specification of your IP, the remote IP, netmask, etc, etc, IS NOT NECESSARY with PPP! (unless you have special circumstances or just want to do it anyway)...the protocol figures that out at connection! (Sorry, I've got the "PPP NEWBIE" willies :) Giver poop! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <bertl@ecs.co.at> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 94 15:12:23 +0100 From: Norbert Heger <bertl@ecs.co.at> Message-ID: <9412041412.AA00692@black13> Subject: Lotus Improv I'm using Lotus Improv Release 1.0 v108r0 Especially on large spreadsheets this version seems to be very buggy (Assert Error, Bus Error, Segmentation Fault, etc ...) - Is there any update available running NEXTSTEP? - Does anybody know how to contact Lotus Inc. for further informations? Thanks ........................................................................... __________________________________________________________________________ Norbert Heger bertl@ecs.co.at (NeXTMail preferred)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FTP clients (was: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ???) Date: 4 Dec 1994 12:25:55 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412041825.AA04489@alleg.EDU> Then you should stop using your version of GatorFTP and switch to other graphical apps (e.g. Yftp). Your copy of GatorFTP seems to have problems with links. ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de is part of a huge "virtual" archive where parts of the archive are mounted from external sources and are combined via links. I tried Yftp (available also from the above mentioned ftp site) and it worked without any problems. GatorFTP versions 1.3 and 1.5 both worked to find the named file. I have not used YFtp, nor due I usually use GatorFTP. Instead I use the binary 'ncftp' which can be found by anon ftp at ftp://ftp.cs.unl.edu/pub/ncftp/ncftp.tgz (.tgz is an abbreviation for '.tar.gz') If you know the name of the file you want to download, you can use ncftp like this ncftp sitename:/path/to/the/file/foobar it will log you in as anonymous, send your email address as a password, and retrieve the file (it will even give you a progress report in % if you want) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: OmniWeb vs. httpd Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec3233740@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 22:37:40 GMT Hi, This is a rather long post, but I hope it's worth reading. :) I've recently installed the CERN caching proxy server httpd 3.0. When I told OmniWeb 0.7.5 to use the gateway "http://localhost:8080" or the proxy "http://localhost:8080/" the HTTP requests sent to the server were not always correct. Running httpd -vv I found that OmniWeb often repeats the proxy address twice or more times, and it doesn't send the initial "http:/" at all! So I patched the httpd sources ;) to compensate for these bugs. (Anyone interested?) But now I have another problem: When the proxy receives an image/gif and forwards that to OmniWeb the latter chokes to death. Its last words in the Console window are: OmniWeb[2010]: objc: OWImageCell: OWInlineImageStream received unexpected (unformatted) data I can see that OmniWeb has announced that it will accept image/tiff or image/x-tiff but no image/gif format. When OmniWeb gets such images directly from the net (or through remote proxies) it can handle them perfectly. And I beleive that these are GIFs, too, because they accumlate in the /tmp folder and they all have the .gif extension and the contents start with `GIF87' or `GIF89'. I know that httpd sends the complete GIF image including a HTTP/MIME header through port 8080 -- I've followed the proceedings in the debugger, so that part is OK. But I also understand that OmniWeb needs some gif->tiff converter to handle the images. I don't have OmniImageFilterServices, but GraphicsWorkshop provides the same service, so that shouldn't be a problem. However, I supect that OmniWeb doesn't handle a local connection in the same way as a remote connection. Otherwise it should write the image data to /tmp, too, which it doesn't. The correct way to process a GIF file would be to put the contents on the pasteboard and call the converter service. But it seems that the data recieved from my proxy is fed to the `OWInlineImageStream' directly (`unformatted'), and that can only handle TIFF. Now, what can I do to make httpd and OmniWeb talk to each other? Here are some things I cannot do: -- I can't patch OmniWeb (no sources available). -- I can't tell httpd to provide tiff images. This would work, too, because in my last experiment I replaced the contents of a .gif file in the proxy cache with a .tiff image -- and that was accepted gracefully... -- I can't use CERN's new Nexus.app (Version 2.01 alpha, formerly WorldWideWeb.app) because that seems to totally ignore the Proxy preference. I've tried "http://localhost:8080", "localhost", "localhost:8080", "127.0.0.1" and lots of other funny names but no request goes to my proxy. TIA Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: wanted: lipo Message-ID: <D0Asvq.Cwp@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 18:04:38 GMT I'm running NS 3.0 on black and therefore do not have /bin/lipo. I know there is a pd version, plipo, on ftp.cs.orst, but the latter has different parameter options and is therefore not interchangeable with lipo, which some utilities (e.g., TickleServices) assume. I don't know if lipo will run on NS 3.0, but I'd like to try it. Would some kind soul please send me lipo and its man page? thx, -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Date: 4 Dec 1994 23:03:01 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <3bthr5$nq6@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> In article <9412012042.AA23636@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > > Question: what do you call a user interface which > > requires you to repeat > > the same complicated task over-and-over again in > > order to obtain a simple, desirable and often-required > > task? > > > > Answer: poor. > > ... Aaaand ... it's the first computer designed from > scratch ... to be an interpersonal computer .... > > If it bothers you that much and it's that important to you, take a Yes, it bothers me that much. Yes, it is important to me. What else do I do with email, except for reading it and replying to it ? > few minutes and grab TickleServices and mailapp-utilities. > Install them and add the TickleService that was posted and you'll > have your very own 'Reply' feature. Sure. I did. Now all I have to do, is to get rid of elm :-) > What do you call a user-interface that allows even a clueless user > like myself to implement new ideas with ridiculous ease? NEXTSTEP. Oh, come on now. Why do I have to install 2 packages, and a external script, to do something, that every known mailreader in the multiverse can do just out of the box ?? (well, perhaps not all known, but... ) > I'll stop now before this becomes a csn.advocasy post... I wasn't complaining or advocacing about Nextstep. I just mentioned, that a relly important feature, that bothered me since 2.0, is still missing, and now, that Next is making major improvements to Mail.app (finally) is still missing. OK, let's stop it here :) -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP 2.6.1 Works Great!! Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:54:09 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bt6p1$kn9@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <D0AG49.6rH@tor.hookup.net> In article <D0AG49.6rH@tor.hookup.net> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > > Just installed (talk about painless!!) > > The latest PPP package can always be found at ftp.duq.edu in > /pub/next/ppp. The newest version there now is > PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz and you also need to get the serial Mux > driver to fix a bug with the NeXT serial port driver... > > For anyone who hasn't tried this package yet, do it! If you're running > SLIP currently, there's even LESS to do (fill in the blanks in > one script and link a couple of files!!) I thought it necessary to follow up and note that PPP-2.2 is still in alpha release. However, the NeXT port of this code is very stable. The NeXT port will remain in alpha stage as long as the PPP-2.2 remains in that stage. Then, the NeXT port will follow the stages of PPP-2.2. Because of this, please note: If you run into any problem with the work, please email me (perkins@cps.msu.edu) _before_ you email usenet. This includes potential bugs as well as general configuration questions. Since the work is _alpha_, the source files for the code are encyrpted. This is only a precaution so that users will understand the status of the work before they try to use it. If you have more questions, please refer to: ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/README - Steve P.S. Thanks for the plug Damon! P.P.S. PPP works with the standard NeXT serial driver as well. It just works better with MuX. -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Department of Computer Science | Michigan State University | NS/FIP OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Public Domain X server/client for NS/Intel? Date: 4 Dec 1994 15:04:39 -0700 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <3btedn$n1a@xmission.xmission.com> References: <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <D09Gr7.4wF@tor.hookup.net> Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net) wrote: : In article <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> : sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: : > subject says it all - does such an animal exist? : > : > -- : > Scott Davenport : > sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu : > (NeXTMail OK!) : I sure wish some kind soul with the source would compile one up for us!! : :) : Damon F. Cooper : damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net In an email exchange earlier this year, one of the original authors of Mouse-X told me it's much harder than a mere recompile of existing source; an Intel X server/client would require many hours of work to port--as well as an Intel machine. Perhaps some NEXTSTEP/Intel hardware vendor could dangle a carrot in front of a would-be developer--the use of an NEXTSTEP/Intel machine for a certain amount of time, say one year--in exchange for a finished, working X server/client for Intel. In exchange, the vendor would have its name and contact displayed in the Info Panel for time and all eternity. This would be an excellent demonstration of commitment to the NEXTSTEP community. I know at least one vendor; I'll talk with them and see what they can do. Perhaps a would-be developer could step forward at the same time. Anyway, ...............................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: npv@mani.cbs.umn.edu (Nora Plesofsky-Vig) Subject: Help with Opener Message-ID: <D0BAzz.8r5@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 00:37:45 GMT I have been trying to use Opener 3.1.3a on my NeXTSTEP 3.1, with little luck. When I try to unpack a .zip file with Opener, I get an error message that 344 bytes in zipfile are missing. Another error message tells me that the start of central directory not found; zipfile corrupt. I am also reminded that I should have compiled unzip properly. I ftped the Opener apps file and the Opener utilities file, and put them both (individually) in my LocalApps directory. I seem to have installed Opener apps correctly, but I really don't know what to do about compiling unzip. Does anyone know if there is some basic incompatibility in the operating system and the software or if there is something obvious (or not obvious) that I should be doing to get Opener to work? I appreciate any help or suggestions you might have. Nora Plesofsky-Vig nora@molbio.cbs.umn.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Gary Lynn/Search and Replace author Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:49:52 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412050149.AA27903@alleg.EDU> Has anyone used Search and Replace? It is supposed to look through a dir and do a search/replace on all the files found there. Only problem is I can't seem to get it to work. It looks like it is working, except nothing is changed. I checked the info panel, and his name was there and a 5/94 date, but no email address. Are you out there Gary? Anyone know him or has anyone used this app sucessfully? TjL
From: tm8025a@american.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NetWare Client Work With 4.0? Date: 5 Dec 1994 01:59:16 GMT Organization: The American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <3bts5k$ori@paladin.american.edu> References: <1994Dec3.144057.29156@olaf.wellesley.edu> In article <1994Dec3.144057.29156@olaf.wellesley.edu> cjones@marbles.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) writes: :Does anyone know if the NetWare client included with NEXTSTEP/FIP :3.2 (or 3.3, for that matter) will work with NetWare 4.0x servers? I've :heard of compatibility with 3.12, but no mention of 4.0. : :Thanks : :Carl I asked this question before so if anyone has an answer I am interested also. However, as far as I know it would need an upgrade to the NetWare client as Novell 4.0 has a much diffrent login then 3.12. Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail, does it have Reply, finally ??? Message-ID: <1994Dec4.195519.426@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 4 Dec 94 19:55:19 CST References: <9412031542.AA13236@alleg.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <9412031542.AA13236@alleg.edu>, Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote: > >>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/maila >>>pp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz > > This path does not exist on 129.187.249.15 > > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu > >Really? > >% ftp 129.187.249.15 ><connected> Worked fine from here... lipschitz:/deviate> \ ncftp ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/\ mailapp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz Receiving file: mailapp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz 100% 0 58418 bytes. ETA: 0:00 mailapp-utilities.1.2.NI.bs.tar.gz: 58418 bytes received in 33.73 seconds, 1.69 K/s. lipschitz:/deviate>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: Oracle and Next Message-ID: <D0Bvr7.7IL@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland References: <3bl9hl$pa2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 08:04:17 GMT In article <3bl9hl$pa2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > In article <D03DLv.809@eunet.ch>, Alexander Lamb <lamb@eqt.ch> wrote: > >In article <3bdvtf$q05@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> > >mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > >> In article <1994Nov22.202022.143575@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>, > >> Keith Thomas Sherry (Mr Toad) <ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu> wrote: > >> >I'm look for a third party package that will allow me to hit on an > >> >Oracle Database. Specifically the drivers that will allow me to > >> >communicate with Oracle from the NEXT. > >> > > >> >-- > >> > Keith Thomas Sherry > >> > Director of Publicity > >> > Information Systems Association > >> > ksherry@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu > >> > >> DBKit (a database access kit included with NEXTSTEP) does this depending > >on > >> what version of Oracle you have. > >> > >> A better solution is EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) but this is a > >> seperate product and needs NEXTSTEP 3.3. I heard a rumor that the > >academic > >> version of NEXTSTEP 3.3 would include EOF but I am not sure. > >> > >> The machines in ACS are NEXTSTEP 3.0. > >> > >> If you have further questions feel free to mail me. > >> > >> -Mont > > > >Well, not quite, actually EOF 1.0 runs on NEXTSTEP 3.2 > >It is a seperate product though (295$) > > > >Alexander Lamb > >Expert Quantitative Trading > >Geneva / Switzerland > > What about the client machines running the programs writen using EOF? Does > each machine need EOF or will 3.3 do (assuming that 3.3 has the necessary > libraries)? > > -Mont According to the EOF license, each client NEEDS a license of EOF. This probably for two reasons : 1. NeXT has to make money on something (quantity discounts are available I'm pretty sure !!!) 2. EOF has the Oracle and Sybase adaptors bundled, and therefore need to pay some sort of fees to those two companies. Alexander Lamb
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X11R4 server for MouseX? Date: 5 Dec 1994 09:02:07 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bukuf$qgq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I need X11R4 compatibility, not X11R5. The server that comes with MouseX is R5. Does anybody know of an R4 server I can use with MouseX? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kasa2@roma.far2.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp Subject: How to read/write Chinese / Korean characters on NeXT Message-ID: <D0C85I.9LD@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp> Sender: news@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (News Manager) Organization: Computer Center, Kanagawa University, Kanagawa, Japan Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 12:32:06 GMT Does anyone know how to read/write Chinese or Korean characters on NeXT. For example, how to read alt.chinese.text ? On X-window system, it seems not so difficult. We have no X-window system on NeXT. Mule is available. ------------------- K.Kasahara Kanagawa University, Yokohama, Japan kasa2@roma.far2.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (NeXT Mail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: wanted: lipo -thanks Message-ID: <D0C9x1.4z7@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <D0Asvq.Cwp@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 13:10:13 GMT In article <D0Asvq.Cwp@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: | |I don't know if lipo will run on NS 3.0, but I'd like to try it. Would some |kind soul please send me lipo and its man page? A kind soul replied; thanks. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: s-dorney@gvsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: using Renderman Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 13:28:12 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <s-dorney.5.2EE3156B@gvsu.edu> I would like to use Renderman on the NeXT, however I am having some difficulty finding the necessary libraries to properly link even a simple program. In short, what are the libraries that are needed to use Renderman? Please respond via e-mail at dorneys@gvsu.edu Thanks in advance. S. Dorney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Request for Solitaire.app suggestions In-Reply-To: mmccullo@usit.net's message of 2 Dec 1994 23:36:21 GMT To: mmccullo@usit.net (Michael McCulloch) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Dec4195624@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3bob1l$og2@use.usit.net> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 00:56:23 GMT In article <3bob1l$og2@use.usit.net> mmccullo@usit.net (Michael McCulloch) writes: As one of the authors of the free Solitaire.app, I'm looking at making some additions to the application's features. I'd like some feedback from folks about what they'd like to see. Thank you for writing Solitaire.app ! It is on the top left of my monster shelf. Considering how much competition there is for that spot, you should have some idea how much some of us appreciate it. Here are my ideas: - Add save/load capability for games in progress Probably useful, but not terribly so. - Undo/redo feature (with limited buffer) Yes, please. This would be very much of an improvement. - Write a four hand Hearts game (with the computer playing three of the hands) Yes, that would be a lot of fun. I'd really like to nix the large card size, since it takes up disk space and memory and adds to the complexity of writing new games since you must build two IB interfaces per game. Most of the games require 1280x1024 to be able to fit the large card game area on-screen, which is a resolution I'd think precious few people actually run. Actually there are some of us who run 1280x1024 by default and who rather like the large card set option. But having more modules is more important than having large cards. The undo/redo feature is something that could waste much of my time for little payoff. I personally don't think it is fair to allow unlimited undo in a game. It's basically cheating. Perhaps a one or two move undo/redo would be adequate? Cheating ? You mean that there is anybody in the world who plays any form of solitaire with real cards and who _never_ cheats ? Unlimited undo/redo would be the single greatest improvement to Solitaire.app. As far as speed, I'm afraid card dragging is about as fast as it is gonna get. Also, there have been requests for click to select source and click to select destination, instead of interactive dragging. This is something that would require wholesale redesign of the CardSet classes and games, and is something I personally do not prefer after experiencing FreeCell under Win32. I agree. Clicking on source and destination just isn't elegant. However there are two suggestion which I think would be improvements: 1. Double-clicking on any card which could only be moved to one possible destination always automatically moves it there. 2. In games like Arachnid allow the user to drag whole stacks at once if there are enough free slots to do it card by card. Finally, how many people would pay $5 for the four hand Hearts module? Of course, the game engine remains free. Sign me up. Carl Edman
From: pcu@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X11R4 server for MouseX? Date: 5 Dec 1994 17:38:33 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bvj6p$i0s@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3bukuf$qgq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <3bukuf$qgq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > I need X11R4 compatibility, not X11R5. The server that comes with MouseX > is R5. Does anybody know of an R4 server I can use with MouseX? Well, you can ftp ftp.x.org for the actual X distributions. And even build your own! -- Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan Anything to me is sweeter, Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: marty@.sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Biff for Next Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:24:04 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bvls4$dca@transfer.stratus.com> I'm looking for a biff application that can be used to indicate when new mail arrives. I am using Emacs to read mail instead of Mail.app. Any pointers would be appreciated. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax)
From: msm@simstim (Mark S Mertel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Electronic Street Maps Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:01:58 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3bvkim$d5g@digdug.pencom.com> I'm looking for a good source of electronic map images of various cities and locales. Probably any of the standard graphic formats will do, however it would be nice if they were readable by NextStep. Thanks in advance. Mark Mertel Email: msm@pencom.com Pencom Software Phone: (512) 343-6666 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N. FAX: (512) 343-9650 Austin, TX 78759
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: kyleh@cs.mun.ca (Kyle Douglas Hearfield) Subject: any NeXTStep Publications? Message-ID: <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca> Sender: usenet@cs.mun.ca (NNTP server account) Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 16:50:07 GMT I am looking for subscription information to any NeXTStep Publications. if you could provide me with an address and number of any I would be very Thankful! Thanks in Advance, Kyle. -- "You might as well pay attention because you can't afford free speech." -George Clinton. ______________________________________________________________________________ Kyle Douglas Hearfield Kyleh@europa.cs.mun.ca
From: msm@simstim (Mark S Mertel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Electronic Street Maps Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:14:32 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3bvla8$h88@digdug.pencom.com> Greetings, I'm looking for a good source of map images of various cities and locales. Next readable format is prefered. Thanks in advance -- Mark Mertel Email: msm@pencom.com Pencom Software Phone: (512) 343-6666 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N. FAX: (512) 343-9650 Austin, TX 78759
From: yut@tan.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Replacement for Squash? Date: 5 Dec 1994 21:49:13 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Message-ID: <3c01sp$6j9@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I've been a faithful and happy user of Squash 1.0g for a long time. When I recently upgraded to NS3.2, I started to get errors on the console while archiving to a floppy: thread_set_exception_port: invalid port(-102) thread_set_exception_port: invalid port(-102) thread_set_exception_port: invalid port(-102) thread_set_exception_port: invalid port(-102) thread_set_exception_port: invalid port(-102) ... If anyone can suggest a fix for this, that would be great. But I'd be just as happy to switch to a more recent backup tool. So what are you using for backing-up to floppy? The Squash features that I really like are: - multiple volume backups (ie. it prompts for the next floppy) - easy user interface - absolutely reliable compression (never had a single problem) Thanks for any feedback. Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Tickle Services mail reply patch - free keyboard equivalents ? Message-ID: <D0D08D.6Fr@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <9412031431.AA12405@alleg.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 22:38:36 GMT In article <9412031431.AA12405@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: |This is the service that Scott Hess sent to me, except that I changed |the path to Carl Edman's 'nextmail' to fit my system. You may have |to edit the "$HOME/Unix/bin/nextmail" to your correct path (try |'which nextmail' at the commandline if you're unsure where it is or |if you have it. .. stuff deleted |# Usage: Select the mail message in question, hit the |# \"Services/Mail/Reply Text\" entry (use a Command-key accelerator |# if you want), and it will snarf the text of the message, strip |# off the header lines, quote the text with your selected quote |# string, and open a pre-loaded Compose window. .. more deleted In installing this service posted by Tim, I chose R as a keyboard equivalent, only to discover that Mail already uses command-R for its lack-luster Reply. Which raises my question: how do you determine what command keys are assigned in an apps menus, short of displaying them all and writing down the list to see what's left over? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> Subject: Please Help: User's Group in Kuwait Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 02:14:26 GMT Greetings! Can anyone out there help me and my friend find the address and contact information for the user's group in Kuwait? We have no current information, and would appreciate any assistance you can provide. Also, does anyone out there know about the extent to which NeXT is used in Kuwait? Are there also other services for NeXT users in Kuwait other than the user's group? In advance -- THANKS! [Please feel free to e-mail me with any information you may have.]
From: root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ANSI Terminal Date: 6 Dec 1994 00:45:23 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Message-ID: <3c0c73$nk0@news.gttw.com> Keywords: ANSI, TERMINAL Hello, I am looking for an ANSI terminal program for NeXT black, running ns3.2. Can anyone direct me to one?? Replies via EMAIL please, Ronald R. Ohmer root@athis.gttw.com
From: root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WWW Browser Date: 6 Dec 1994 00:47:03 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Message-ID: <3c0ca7$nk1@news.gttw.com> Hello, I am looking for a WWW browser for NS3.2 and black hardware that is NOT omni web, and preferablly not X.. Thank you, Ronald R. Ohmer Jr.
From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Date: 05 Dec 1994 21:38:31 GMT Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI Message-ID: <TMS.94Dec5163831@litespeed.cfc.com> References: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> In-reply-to: dino@blackmaus.com's message of Mon, 28 Nov 1994 07:43:34 GMT In article <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com>, dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: >Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? >I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. >When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature >when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). >If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an >incomplete copy of my signature. >Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? This is no bug. NG is putting in one sig and your news software (probably cnews) is putting in the other. The second one is truncated at four lines because cnews is following the generally acceped four-line signature limit. Todd -- _____ __ __ ____ Todd M. Swan - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI |_ _| \/ | ___| tms@cfc.com (NeXTmail) | | | |__ | The flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond |_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ronny@blackmaus.com (Ronny Bagdadi) Subject: DCS Format Message-ID: <D0CxoC.Dw@blackmaus.com> Keywords: DCS Sender: ronny@blackmaus.com (Ronny Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 21:43:23 GMT Hello, Does anyone know where to find info on the DCS format (a variant of EPS?) I checked out Adobe's ftp site, but didn't find anything. Please email me if you do. Thanks. --- Ronny Bagdadi Blackmaus Design ronny@blackmaus.com (NeXT mail expected!) PGP key available on request. The real cycle you are working on is yourself. The machine that appears to be `out there' and the person that appears to be `in there' are not two separate things. They grow towards Quality or fall away from Quality together. Robert Pirsig Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help Subject: using NeXTApps with metamail? Date: 04 Dec 1994 23:06:47 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec4230647@steffi.dircon.co.uk> CC: cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu I'm writing a mailcap for w3.el and I'd like to know how I can get the mailcap to correctly execute and load the files. In particular the files aren't written to /tmp using their _real_ extensions so I need a way of convincing Preview that what I'm telling it to open _is_ postscript even though the file doesn't end in .ps. I'd like to train mailcap to use other programs too so how are people using metamail/w3 in this way? -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Yftp Date: 6 Dec 1994 14:04:48 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3c1r20$gma@digdug.pencom.com> Keywords: Bug? I've been testing out the Yftp.app that I downloaded from some site... I was just curious about 1 thing -- is there a way to abort the download while it's "in-progress"? The version I am running is ".340" -- so I'm not sure if this is a feature that will be added later, or if I'm missing something. Also, where can we report bugs? Currently there is a bug when you display the console it stops writing to it... Also, a "feature" suggestion would be to associate the "console" with separate windows -- i.e., each window would have its own console. My suggestion would simply be to add a button to the window that says "Show Console" -- then display console information for that host connection in that console. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help Subject: NS-Emacs with bbdb dialing with touch tone phones.. Date: 03 Dec 1994 00:36:49 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec3003650@steffi.dircon.co.uk> CC: info-bbdb@lucid.com,emacs-for-ns-users@steffi.dircon.co.uk If anybody else is using bbdb with NS-emacs you might be interested in this. (eval-after-load "bbdb" '(progn (setq bbdb-default-area-code 071 bbdb-north-american-phone-numbers-p nil bbdb-info-file "/usr/local/info/bbdb.info" bbdb/news-auto-create-p nil bbdb-sound-player "/usr/bin/sndplay" bbdb-sound-files '["~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.0.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.1.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.2.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.3.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.4.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.5.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.6.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.7.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.8.au" "~/Library/Sounds/touchtone.9.au"]))) Does anybody have a command line oriented DSP binary rather than resorting to sounds? 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From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Yftp Date: 6 Dec 1994 17:10:55 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <3c25uv$4nf@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <3c1r20$gma@digdug.pencom.com> In article <3c1r20$gma@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes: > I've been testing out the Yftp.app that I downloaded from some site... I was > just curious about 1 thing -- is there a way to abort the download while it's > "in-progress"? The version I am running is ".340" -- so I'm not sure if this > is a feature that will be added later, or if I'm missing something. No, the current version is 0.447, but is still has no abort button, sorry :) but you can't accidentally click the wrong file as easy with the new version, cause the browser doesnt jump around anymore all the time (NXBrowser bug, or misfeature) and you now see the filesize fro every file. aborting filetransfers somehow didnt work for me most of the time, so it wouldnt be that useful anyway. Wait for teh next version :) > Also, where can we report bugs? Currently there is a bug when you display yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de or simple the Suggestion menu entry (in 447) > the console it stops writing to it... Also, a "feature" suggestion would be really ? never seen that one > to associate the "console" with separate windows -- i.e., each window would > have its own console. My suggestion would simply be to add a button to the > window that says "Show Console" -- then display console information for that > host connection in that console. This is exactly as it is done. except, that the button is in the menu, and not on the window Oh yeah, 447 is available on peanuts, orst and sonata. probably still in submissions Have fun -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: OmniWeb vs. httpd In-Reply-To: stephan@rodion.muc.de's message of Sat, 3 Dec 1994 22:37:40 GMT To: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec6211808@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <STEPHAN.94Dec3233740@rodion.muc.de> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 20:18:08 GMT On 3 Dec 1994 22:37:40, Stephan Wacker (SW) wrote: SW> But I also understand that OmniWeb needs some gif->tiff converter to SW> handle the images. I don't have OmniImageFilterServices, but SW> GraphicsWorkshop provides the same service, so that shouldn't be a SW> problem. SW> SW> However, I supect that OmniWeb doesn't handle a local connection in SW> the same way as a remote connection. Otherwise it should write the SW> image data to /tmp, too, which it doesn't. I forgot to mention that the images work very well when I don't use my proxy. I've already received several answers, most of which suggested to upgrade to OmniWeb 0.7.5.4 or use the original OmniImageFilterServices. I'm not very optimistic but I'll post a summary as soon as this is solved. Ciao, Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: Robert E. Moran <remoran@cerf.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tailor.app for NS3.0? Date: 6 Dec 1994 19:22:18 GMT Organization: Digital Constructs Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c2dla$qrk@news.cerf.net> References: <3bht66$e22@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <3bl3mt$aqh@potogold.rmii.com> Garrett L. Rice, garrett@opensource.com writes: >Garrett L. Rice Garrett, can you give some information about Tailor in terms of the files it can process and any other data. I know it can handle PDFs, the question is what other operations can it do. Thanks Bob Moran
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Reading compressed manuals Date: 6 Dec 1994 23:03:04 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c2qj8$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3bnka9$kov@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Andreas Obst (obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu) wrote: : Sometime ago I read about a software that would allow : to read compressed Unix man pages or NeXT Online manuals : (I do not remember which of the two). In other words, : the manuals could be compressed on the disk and would only : be uncompressed if they are read. : Anybody remember what that software is called? : (and where to find it). : Thanks in advance. Run, don't walk, and get Tom Christensen's drop in replacment for man. (Primary source is convex.com I think) This critter not only will read compressed man pages (or gziped man pages) but it is also clever enough that if /usr/local/bin is ahead of /usr/bin in your path, it will check /usr/local/man before /usr/man. And if you tend to keep man pages with the systems they represent, it will follow your path. Thus, for example, with the GMT package we have /usr/local/gmt/bin with parallel source and man directories. So any user who is using gmt has automatic access to gmt man pages. AND man pages over the net are FASTER with compressed pages. At least I find that the Nexts are fast enough that decompressing is faster than moving when the server is busy. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tiff editor Date: 6 Dec 1994 23:08:45 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3c2qtt$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3bnlt9$g9u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Jonathan Kimball (jkimball@bywater.ece.uiuc.edu) wrote: : I recently got abSIRDitieS off ftp.cs.orst.edu. It requires an 8-bit : greyscale tiff as input. I've tried saving images from Draw.app as : tiffs, but they're saved as color. Is there an editor out there that : will save drawings as 8-bit greyscale tiffs, or alternatively, a : utility to convert a color tiff to greyscale? Yup. Get either pbmplus or netpbm (The two packages are convergent.) tifftopnm colorimage.tiff | ppmtopgm | pnmtotiff > greyimage.tiff Haven't checked the syntax or the spelling. Worth at least what you pay for it. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tickle Services mail reply patch - free keyboard equivalents ? Date: 06 Dec 1994 23:17:30 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.94Dec6171730@icicle.winternet.com> References: <9412031431.AA12405@alleg.EDU> <D0D08D.6Fr@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> In-reply-to: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca's message of Mon, 5 Dec 1994 22:38:36 GMT In article <D0D08D.6Fr@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: >In installing this service posted by Tim, I chose R as a keyboard >equivalent, only to discover that Mail already uses command-R for >its lack-luster Reply. > >Which raises my question: how do you determine what command keys >are assigned in an apps menus, short of displaying them all and >writing down the list to see what's left over? I'm not certain on that question, but I do have a hint to free p things like Command-Shift-R for other uses. What I did locally was to choose a specific key (`) which I didn't want to use with Command, and then use the Preferences application to set items whose command-key I want to steal to that key. So, I've set Reply" to ` in Preferences, and now I can use Command-Shift-R for Reply Text... Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/") Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? Date: 6 Dec 1994 23:12:36 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3c2r54$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Dec2.215214.13009@cs.uno.edu> Jay Liew (jliew@cs.uno.edu) wrote: : Hi all, : Is there an app out there that can convert a graphic into a vector : image? What I'm referrering to is something like autocad's .DXF format, : for example. I would appreciate any help or redirection. Any comments : on approximately how difficult this would be to do myself may also help. (-: In general this is a very difficult problem. We tend to decompose an image into chunks. For a bit to vector translator to be useful, it has to chunk in a reasonable way. It really gets nasty when you start from a grey scale map. How much of a difference means a different block? Then with aliasing, noise... -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Reading compressed manuals Date: 6 Dec 1994 23:54:05 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c2tit$su5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3c2qj8$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <3c2qj8$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes: > > Run, don't walk, and get Tom Christensen's drop in replacment for man. > (Primary source is convex.com I think) This critter not only will read > compressed man pages (or gziped man pages) but it is also clever enough > that if /usr/local/bin is ahead of /usr/bin in your path, it will check > /usr/local/man before /usr/man. And if you tend to keep man pages with > the systems they represent, it will follow your path. Thus, for > example, with the GMT package we have /usr/local/gmt/bin with parallel > source and man directories. So any user who is using gmt has automatic > access to gmt man pages. > The README says you need ndbm. I didn't find this on my system. Does gdbm (GNUs version) work? - Steve P.S. Anybody know exactly what the perl script man-selfload does? -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Department of Computer Science | Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Biff for Next Date: 6 Dec 1994 16:32:24 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412062232.AA17828@alleg.EDU> I'm looking for a biff application that can be used to indicate when new mail arrives. I am using Emacs to read mail instead of Mail.app. biff is on the NeXT. Whether or not it works on your setup is another issue. We have all our mail sent to one machine and then it is pulled to whichever machine we are on (NFS mount? maybe? I don't know -- all I know is click on 'get mail' and it gets my mail ;-) This MIGHT try adding this to your setup file (it is in my .cshrc) setenv MAIL /usr/spool/mail/YOURUSERNAMEHERE set mail = (1 $MAIL) if you mailpath is different, change it accordingly which will check mail every one minute [hence the (1 $MAIL)] I suppose you could change that to a greater number, but why would you do that ;-) ?? If you'd like a great application that will check your mail for you, check our MailCall by Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> available by ftp at ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu:/NeXT/MailCall_2.9.2.tar.Z It checks your mail every 10 secs or so, plays a .snd if there is a message, or a new message, and then pops up a panel telling you the name and subject of the message, and even tells you if it is NeXTMail (a big plus when reading mail through terminal and not Mail.app). It will hide (or not, you set) when there is no mail waiting, and will also check if there is mail waiting for root if asked. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax) Hello in Marlboro! I grew up in Hudson (a little town NeXT to Marlboro, for those million or so reading this message who have no idea where either of these towns are) and my Dad still lives in Marlboro now. Hope business is booming! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: me@wendy.ucsd.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer and SLIP Date: 7 Dec 1994 00:48:33 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c30p1$l0q@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: NewsGrazer SLIP I'm having problems running NewsGrazer at home with a SLIP connection to campus. I have specified the correct NNTP server, and can read news fine, but for some reason NewsGrazer won't allow me to post or to follow up. Any ideas as to why this is happening? Is it a SLIP problem or a NewsGrazer problem? Please help! Thanks, Mark Trombino trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: any NeXTStep Publications? Date: 6 Dec 1994 16:45:22 -0600 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3c2pi2$o11@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca> In article <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca>, Kyle Douglas Hearfield <kyleh@cs.mun.ca> wrote: >I am looking for subscription information to any NeXTStep Publications. >if you could provide me with an address and number of any I would be very >Thankful! Here's is one magazine, NEXT IN LINE. This is part of their post from a while ago. I am pretty sure that you cannot use their e-mail addresses for subscriptions anymore. You must write to them. ======================================================================== For further information, or to subscribe, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Subscriptions P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-subscriptions@abstractsoft.com For advertising information and current rates, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Advertising P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-advertising@abstractsoft.com For submission guidelines and information, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Submissions P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-submissions@abstractsoft.com -- NEXT IN LINE is a monthly publication serving the NEXTSTEP community. Its purpose is to provide NEXTSTEP users with a reliable forum for the expression of ideas on NEXTSTEP use, the announcement of important NEXTSTEP-related events, and the dissemination of fair and impartial information on NEXTSTEP products. NEXT IN LINE is published monthly by PUBLISHING 51 and has no affiliation with NeXT, Inc., nor with any other business interest. NeXT and NEXTSTEP are registered trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc., Redwood City, CA. ============================================================================ ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: fflak@aurora (kelly alonzo h) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? Date: 6 Dec 1994 16:38 -0900 Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks Distribution: world Message-ID: <6DEC199416385252@aurora> References: <1994Dec2.215214.13009@cs.uno.edu> <3c2r54$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAF In article <3c2r54$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>, sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes... >Jay Liew (jliew@cs.uno.edu) wrote: >: Hi all, >: Is there an app out there that can convert a graphic into a vector >: image? There is a PD program called LTPlus (or lineTracePlus) that runs on unix boxes. I don't know much about it, except the source is available, it is used by USGS and other government agencies to scan topographic maps and vectorize the topographic lines. I understand it has been undergoing con- tinual improvement, needing less interaction with the operator with each revision. A Gopher search should turn up the source. I think the display required is X/MOTIF.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Internal Error 1103 in Workspace? Message-ID: <1994Dec6.230954.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 04:09:54 GMT Several times in the last two weeks, I've received the following error from Workspace: Internal Error 1103 has occurred. I am then allowed to log out or continue at my own risk. Does anyone know what might be the cause of this error? Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu NeXTMail OK!
From: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Colin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tip and control characters Date: 7 Dec 1994 05:06:23 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <3c3fsf$3t4@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> I'm using tip and a ZyXEL modem and am having the following strange behavior with emacs and ksh... Ctrl-A toggles upper/lower case instead of going to beginning of line Ctrl-P acts as an escape: so Ctrl-P Ctrl-A causes beginning of line, and Ctrl-P Ctrl-P is required to go to previous line or command. Can someone tell me how to change this? Does it have something to do with stty on the remote system (a sun running System V r 4)? Thanks! -- Colin Allen, Asst. Prof \0/ 1994-95 address (Aug. 1 on) Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334 _______(409)845-5660_________ ^|^ _________(303)546-6552________
From: m-tg0017@cs.nyu.edu (Tim Glauner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How is performance of batch jobs using EOF? Date: 6 Dec 1994 19:20:18 -0500 Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences Message-ID: <3c2v42$qsm@fred.cs.nyu.edu> I am interested if there are performance concerns relating EOF and batch jobs for relational databases. Is it well suited or does the performance decreases? If you have some suggestions or advice for this topic I would greatly appreciate if you would contact me. One issue is, as far as I know, to redefine the fetch method so that you are able to fetch only a certain number of records per fetch. Thank you very much. Tim Glauner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) Subject: Differences from 3.1 to 3.2 or AppsoftDraw Problem. Message-ID: <1994Dec7.081932.12476@news.uminho.pt> Keywords: Appsoft Draw Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account) Organization: Universidade do Minho Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 08:19:32 GMT Hi, I have a problem, and I would like to know if it has to do with differences from 3.1 to 3.2 or it's an application problem. A can't get Appsoft Draw running properly in NS 3.2, on Intel Hardware. Every thing works fine, copy/cut/paste, exporting, etc, and saving seems to work fine, as well. The only problem is with opening back the files. Always a Alert Panel with a message telling "Could not read file. Corrupted file data." In /usr/adm/messages, I've extracted the following error: Dec 7 00:42:06 colemil AppsoftDraw[222]: An uncaught exception was raised Dec 7 00:42:06 colemil AppsoftDraw[222]: App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in (null pointer) The version of AppsoftDraw is 1.03, that cames on the third-party cd-rom of NS 3.1. It is registered with the Registration Number and Authorization Number that we had from a copy running in a old NeXTStation. Thanks for any help. (It can be who supports this application, because I think there is no Appsoft alive!) Jorge. -- Jorge Gustavo Rocha Email jgr@di.uminho.pt ------------------------------------------------------------ Departamento de Inform'atica Tel +351 53 604461 Universidade do Minho Fax +351 53 612954 4700 Braga PORTUGAL NeXTmail welcome --
From: jamie_erbes@wiltel.com (bbradley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tektronix emulation on NeXTStep?? Date: 7 Dec 1994 00:09:22 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <3c2ufi$b9a@gateway.wiltel.com> Does anybody know of a Tektronix emulation package (commercial or otherwise) that will run in NeXTStep? I have a legacy app written using Tektronix graphics specifics and need to strive for the "single footprint" on my user's desktop...
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Subject: Re: Please Help: User's Group in Kuwait Message-ID: <D0FqwH.JHG@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:09:53 GMT In article <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> writes: > Greetings! Can anyone out there help me and my friend find the address > and contact information for the user's group in Kuwait? We have no > current information, and would appreciate any assistance you can > provide. > > Also, does anyone out there know about the extent to which NeXT is used > in Kuwait? Are there also other services for NeXT users in Kuwait other > than the user's group? > > In advance -- THANKS! > [Please feel free to e-mail me with any information you may have.] Hi, We do not know of any users groups in Kuwait but the VAD for the middle east is; Computer Data Networks (Office #4, Mezzanine Floor, Carrera Building Zaabeel Road, Karama, Dubai, U.A.E.) P.O. Box 52219, Dubai U.A.E Tel: +971 4 37 25 20 Fax: +971 4 378 278 Email: nextsales@cobraone.portal.com Try asking them for info about user groups in the region. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions plc 351 London Road Phone: (+44) 01702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (+44) 01702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk England (NeXTMail welcome) United Kingdom
From: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Colin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3c3fsf$3t4@cuboulder.colorado.edu> Control: cancel <3c3fsf$3t4@cuboulder.colorado.edu> Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:54:43 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <3c4er3$jjg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> <3c3fsf$3t4@cuboulder.colorado.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Colin Allen, Asst. Prof \0/ 1994-95 address (Aug. 1 on) Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334 _______(409)845-5660_________ ^|^ _________(303)546-6552________
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get ps-fonts with latex2e Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:58:29 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <3c4f25$rl0@due.uninett.no> When I use 'times.sty' from latex2.09 with latex2e, I get an error saying that a number is missing, and then I get 5pt font instead of 12pt. Do anyone have a solution to this problem? -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE Tlf: 57826600 NORWAY Telefaks: 57826830 Ph# +47 57826600 F|retrekkjer NeXTMail Telefax +47 57826830 NeXTMail preferred _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: HELP: Can't post anything with NNTP Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Dec7092046@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> Followup-To: news.software.nntp Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 14:20:46 GMT Hello, I am running the CNews suite of programs on my NeXT. I have both a UUCP-based news feed and lately through SLIP, an NNTP-based news feed (actually I use slurp to get the news over the SLIP line). After installing the nntp client and server software, I can no longer post new outgoing news (to either the UUCP feed or the NNTP feed). Some "togo" files get built everyday. My machine does correctly forward articles from the SLIP-based feed on to the UUCP-based feed. The problem occurs whenever I try to generate an orginal article on my machine. When I tried to post a test article using the gnus mode of emacs 19.22 I got the following error message: Article rejected: buchanan NNTP server out of space. Try later. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should check for configuration errors or other problems? Please email your responses to me. Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709-2233 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan -- Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709-2233 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Subject: mix software modem - severe problems with Message-ID: <D0GBw9.H0@hazel.north.de> Keywords: mix, modem, ilink Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc. Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 17:43:20 GMT I have lots of problems with mix, the DSP software modem of i-link. The i-link support does not answer mail, so my only remaining hope is to find someone on the net who has an idea what to do. The problem: Sometimes I get this message in /tmp/console.log: mix:mixdriver_write failed: timed out(-103) The only remedy then is a reboot (of the computer, not - as one might think - of the modem). This probability of this happening seems correlated to the amount of data to be sent. I have never seen this message when I only receive data. It happens rarely when I sent few data, fairly often with large amounts of data ( several kilobytes ). If this problem happens once this also greatly increases the chance of the same thing happening again after the reboot. Recently it took 10 reboots to send 30kB. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody use mix at all? Has NXFax finally an integrated answering machine? In the latter case, I would throw away mix immediately - it is just completely unstable, and the mix support has no clues at all (or, if they have, they are not prepared not tell me). Gerriet.
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PAULA: Where is Christian Date: 7 Dec 1994 18:24:54 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c4ulm$6ic@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: Paula Christian NS Loves You Netheads, I am looking for the following person who wrote PAULA, a mod player for NS... Christian Limpach or Christian Limpach 10, rue de Hobscheid Mainaustrasse 44 L-8422 Steinfort CH-8008 Zuerich Luxemburg Switzerland or via eMail: climpach@avalon.physik.unizh.ch I have gotten bounced email from the account noted, so if you know of his new email please forward to me. Thanks for your time! Regards, Todd Anthony Nathan
From: kschuetz@vnet.ibm.com (Kursten Schuetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Oracle and Next Date: 7 Dec 1994 15:31:38 GMT Organization: ISSC Southeast Region Sender: kschuetz@chuckie.raleigh.ibm.com (Kursten Schuetz) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c4kgr$21gs@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> References: <3bl9hl$pa2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <D0Bvr7.7IL@eunet.ch> In article <D0Bvr7.7IL@eunet.ch>, lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes: |> In article <3bl9hl$pa2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> |> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: |> > |> > What about the client machines running the programs writen using EOF? |> Does |> > each machine need EOF or will 3.3 do (assuming that 3.3 has the |> necessary |> > libraries)? |> > |> > -Mont |> |> According to the EOF license, each client NEEDS a license of EOF. This |> probably for two reasons : |> |> 1. NeXT has to make money on something (quantity discounts are available |> I'm pretty sure !!!) |> |> 2. EOF has the Oracle and Sybase adaptors bundled, and therefore need to |> pay some sort of fees to those two companies. |> |> Alexander Lamb Good point. The client libraries for Sybase cost over $200 unless you're buying large quantities. I expect Oracle is about the same. For any other platform, you would be paying more just for the adaptors without the EOF. Kursten Schuetz The wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many to choices. My views do not represent IBM PC Company, Research Triangle Park
From: marty@sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Biff for Next Date: 7 Dec 1994 21:40:10 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5a3q$85v@transfer.stratus.com> References: <9412062232.AA17828@alleg.EDU> (following up my own posting...) I have installed MailCall.App. It works just fine. Another alternative is to use Mail.App and switch the preferences so that mail is only retrieved manually. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 490-6765 (Fax)
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tailor.app for NS3.0? Date: 7 Dec 1994 22:03:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5bg2$ksv@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3c2dla$qrk@news.cerf.net> In article <3c2dla$qrk@news.cerf.net> Robert E. Moran <remoran@cerf.net> writes: :Garrett, can you give some information about Tailor in terms of the files :it can process and any other data. I know it can handle PDFs, the :question is what other operations can it do. Here is more information on the Tailor family of postscript editors. The file format stuff is listed below in the description. Tailor Publisher does import PDF (Adobe Acrobat) files, but all hypertext links in these documents are lost. Tailor is available from us here at OpenSource (800-TRY-OPEN). Tailor 2.0 The visual PostScript editor for NEXTSTEP. Tailor introduces innovative technology for making PostScript documents editable in a graphical way, without requiring any knowledge of the PostScript language. Tailor supports dynamically loadable extensions, called keystones. Keystones provide additional functionality, leveraging the power of the base application. FirstClass already offers several exciting keystones, and more will be developed in the future. The Keystone Application Programming Interface (KAPI) specification is freely available to all interested Tailor users. This means that users may develop their own keystones, and that third parties may offer keystones with specific solutions. Tailor Office 2.0 Tailor Office 2.0 is targeted towards the general user. Tailor Office 2.0 contains many powerful features, including : support for importing Adobe Acrobat (PDF) files (with limitations; for example hyperlinks are ignored) optional generation of EPSI or PC TIFF preview section in EPS output fast viewing of the first page in multi-page documents full editing of paths including Bezier control points selectable units : inch, cm and points support for Adobe Type 3 fonts support for PS output from most TeX implementations the option to export the original font name rather than the substituted font text reconstruction to copy/paste formatted text into other applications with full typographic attributes such as font, size etc. Tailor Publishing 2.0 Tailor Publishing 2.0 includes all functionality of Tailor Office 2.0, and adds a suite of features targeted towards the graphic arts professional, including: support for the overprint attribute used for trapping exporting to Adobe Illustrator format support for spot colors Price $495 - Tailor Office 2.0 $995 - Tailor Publisher 2.0 Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now PA/RISC: Now Regards, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: OmniWeb vs. httpd Message-ID: <1994Dec7.104618.503@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <STEPHAN.94Dec6211808@rodion.muc.de> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:46:18 GMT In article <STEPHAN.94Dec6211808@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) writes: }~ I forgot to mention that the images work very well when I don't }~ use my proxy. }~ What about imagemap items (hot-area mapped in-line images)? as produced by NCSA's daemon using the cgi interface of "imagemap". Bruce Gingery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Swapfile Behavior Message-ID: <1994Dec7.104917.561@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <3boe1u$ru0@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:49:17 GMT In article <3boe1u$ru0@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: }~ Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: }~ > Hmm, I wonder what the impact of using (or not using) swapfile }~ > compression has on the swapfile leaks which have been previously }~ > discussed? }~ }~ Back in NS-3.0 days I tried some experiments with this, and the }~ swapfile would grow with either setting. I haven't looked at it }~ since then, though. I'm not even sure you can turn off the }~ compression anymore. Under 3.2 you can turn off the error-message for secondary swap spaces when compression is already active on the first one. Whether or not this actually does anything beyond... it seems to prevent secondary swapfile.front entries in mtab, so... Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE staff tech writer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Yftp / NcFTP cancel receive Message-ID: <1994Dec7.105318.619@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <3c25uv$4nf@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:53:18 GMT In article <3c25uv$4nf@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: }~ In article <3c1r20$gma@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. }~ Wilson) writes: }~ > I've been testing out the Yftp.app that I downloaded from }~ > some site... }~ > I was just curious about 1 thing -- is there a way to abort }~ > the download while it's "in-progress"? }~ No, the current version is 0.447, but is still has no abort button, }~ sorry :) Many servers don't accept abort messages from what NcFTP reports. Some do -- some ignore or refuse the cancel message. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE staff tech writer
From: dstearma@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (D. Marc Stearman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Good Shareware Comm Program Date: 7 Dec 1994 15:10:52 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3c5fds$t6k@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: dstearma As the Subject says I am looking for a shareware communications program for Black Hardware and NS 3.0 Anything with zmodem and vt100 emulation would be great. Thanks in advance, -Marc -- /\/\/\/\/\/\| D. Marc Stearman (Zan -- Wonder Twin #2) |/\/\/\/\/\/\ | -----> dstearma@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu <----- | \/\/\/\/\/\/|-----> http://www.calpoly.edu/~dstearma <-----|\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 8 Dec 1994 00:11:18 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Help - I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has the following error message: Dec 7 17:04:56 homebrew WindowServer[189]: Interceptor: error in receiving app notification reply (timed out) I've installed Mark Salyzyn's serial port driver replacement as per the FAQ. HELP! -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT? Date: 7 Dec 1994 15:11:25 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <3c4jat$ing@bilbo.suite.com> References: <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> In article <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev) writes: > Hey, does anyone have a threaded news reader for NeXT (commercial > of shareware)? Any leads will be appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Ivan Kiselev One option is tin. It's not a grphical front end but works quite nicely... I got it at cs.orst.edu 128.193.32.1 -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Scot Shepherd -- Suite Software | Nuke the un-born gay whales -- -- Email: shepherd@suite.com | for Jesus!!! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: Reading compressed manuals Message-ID: <D0GJzo.CqD@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <3c2qj8$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 20:38:11 GMT In article <3c2qj8$jo0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes: ... > Run, don't walk, and get Tom Christensen's drop in replacment for man. > (Primary source is convex.com I think) This critter not only will read can you be more precise as to what it is called and where to get it? Thks, --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Spice for NSFIP? Date: 8 Dec 1994 00:36:58 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <3c5kfa$jqp@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Hi, I was just wondering if NXSpice is available for NSFIP? or is there another version of Spice that runs under NSFIP? Thanks -- David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator. NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB NO NeXT-Mail Please.
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: LOOKING FOR NEXTSTEP INTERNET SOFTWARE! Date: 8 Dec 1994 03:47:06 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3c5vjq$ed6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am looking for (preferably) source code or binaries of the following command-line BSD Unix programs that will work under NEXTSTEP 486 and NEXTSTEP/Motorola. If you know the exact ftp location of any of these command line utilities, please forward them to me! - irc (chat system) - gopher (server & client) - www _browser_ (vt100) - www _server_ for NEXTSTEP - nn, rn, rrn, trn (news readers) - elm, pine (mail systems) - swais (wide area info program) - archie Thank You for Your Help, Eric Hermanson
From: alby@uunet.uu.net (Anthony Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 7 Dec 1994 19:36:34 -0500 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: alby@cthulu.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5kei$5rf@cthulu.UU.NET> References: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Has anybody come out with a better version of SoftPC? -Alby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: tcpdump (or similar product) for NS Intel? Message-ID: <1994Dec8.152916.14795@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 15:29:16 GMT I'm looking for a packet capture/browser program for NeXT 3.2 Intel. I tried compiling tcpdump 2.2.1 on a whim and bombed. Anyone know of any such animal that would help me? Thanks in advance -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu NeXTMail OK!
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 8 Dec 1994 15:28:56 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c78no$7v6@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3c5kei$5rf@cthulu.UU.NET> In article <3c5kei$5rf@cthulu.UU.NET> alby@uunet.uu.net (Anthony Williams) writes: > > > > Has anybody come out with a better version of SoftPC? > > -Alby Only Insignia Solutions makes SoftPC, so I doubt if anybody else has come out with a "better" version. There is , however, SoftPC 4.0 available now. It is a marked improvement over 3.11 as far as stability and Windows compatibility (it'll even run some of the enhanced Windows apps). It is only available for NS/FIP :-( Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:19:56 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c7f7t$k9j@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <3c78no$7v6@potogold.rmii.com> In article <3c78no$7v6@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes: > In article <3c5kei$5rf@cthulu.UU.NET> alby@uunet.uu.net (Anthony Williams) > writes: > > Has anybody come out with a better version of SoftPC? > > > Only Insignia Solutions makes SoftPC, so I doubt if anybody else has come > out with a "better" version. There is , however, SoftPC 4.0 available > now. It is a marked improvement over 3.11 as far as stability and Windows > compatibility (it'll even run some of the enhanced Windows apps). It is > only available for NS/FIP :-( Let me know if you'd like more information. > -- Well, this is SoftPC 4.0 and it still has all the problems and cheesy interface problems that 3.x had as far as I can tell. Oh, yeah, the problem with the serial port was due to the replacement serial driver. Put the NEXT supplied one back in and everything was ok. This means that none of my NEXT native apps work for crap. Thanks, Insignia, for managing to hardcode to a particular driver. -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 8 Dec 1994 11:39:33 -0700 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: Pages by Pages Write-Up OpenWrite I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just a basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I don't think that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the above do equations? Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions?
From: tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu (todd s. munson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3-D Animation Package Date: 8 Dec 1994 20:31:50 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska Omaha Message-ID: <3c7qfm$4rl@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Are there any 3-D Animation packages available for Nextstep? Thanks -- tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu Todd S. Munson, UNO ACM President
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? [NS app: Tracer] Message-ID: <1994Dec8.211925.2390@dagobah.fdn.fr> Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr Organization: Individual References: <3bqq9l$5do@core.symnet.net> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 21:19:25 GMT Jay Liew (jliew@cs.uno.edu) wrote: : Hi all, : Is there an app out there that can convert a graphic into a vector : image? What I'm referrering to is something like autocad's .DXF format, : for example. I would appreciate any help or redirection. Any comments : on approximately how difficult this would be to do myself may also help. (-: I responded directly to Jay, sending along the following NS app: 112 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 106496 Dec 8 21:55 Tracer* It takes a TIFF as input and saves it as EPS... a vectorized EPS indeed ! There seems to be quite a handful of interested people out here... So I might as well let you all know in case you don't. This app. was written in 1991 by Chris Osborn and distributed as a $5 Shareware. I haven't used it purposefully, so I can't tell whether or not it does a good job at vectorizing bitmaps. However, upon trying it out, I found that the results were quite impressive for such an tedious task. If you guys can't find 'Tracer' on any ftp site, let me know and I'll send you the Motorola binary (it was probably compiled under 2.1... so forget about HPPA & Intel ! at least as far as I'm concerned ;-) [I'll send as NeXTMAIL if you don't specify otherwise] -- \ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) / / yann@dagobah.fdn.org Email/NeXTmail \ \ "grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines." /
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Date: 9 Dec 1994 00:31:52 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited, the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine. Question: Are there any scanners that are supported by whatever Next software that will work this way? Or do I have to scan the stuff under a DOS/Windows window (SoftPC) or in native mode (with dual boot) and then reboot to Nextstep and use the file from there? Thanks,
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 03:08:02 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <3c8hmi$aq9@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: : I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for : NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the : products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: : Pages by Pages : Write-Up : OpenWrite I can only comment on Pages, as I haven't the resources to try them all. (I got Pages when they offered their initial trial offer, and have been very happy with it.) There are some minor problems, such as bird-droppings being left behind the curor -- they should tweak their PostScript re-draws a little. Pages is also less flexible than your average WP, such as Microsoft Word. It is, however, much more elegantly implemented. Pages isn't really template oriented, although it does have some templates. Pages is, rather, design-model oriented. As I understand it, the objects on the page are intelligent objects, which consult the design model object for advice on how they should be laid-out. (This is how automatic text flow around an inserted picture would work, for example.) The design models that come with pages cover a pretty wide area suitable for business letters, presentations, newsletters, etc. Their design philisophy traded flexibility for 1) ease of use, and 2) futz prevention. You'll not see people in their cubicles spending 2 hours tweaking one document, as you see with common WP's on other platforms. I am disappointed, however, that they don't have a design model that is appropriate for putting together research papers. I'd love to have one that combined the layout power of TeX with the ease of use of Pages, complete with style-logic that encourages good research-paper format. All of the Pages design models are, sad to say, geared towards the business suits concerned about corporate image. Hey, Pages, do you suppose that you could throw an academic design model my way? Didn't think so... -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only us could un-allocating all them resources it are consuming so easy. */
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 08:09:34 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c93bu$1co@news.bu.edu> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <3c8miv$r8n@digifix.digifix.com> Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: : Shawn Lynn writes : > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for : > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the : > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: : > : > Pages by Pages : > Write-Up : > OpenWrite : > : > And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? : > Speaking from experience with all three, and being an owner of Pages 1.5.x and the current WriteUp and having a friend with OpenWrite, I can offer the following impressions. Pages as a day tPo day word processor is ok and it'll work great once you get used to the way it wants you to do things. It's not really what I'd call a "word processor" its more up there with FrameMaker as an app which people use to make books and assemble huge documents with a lot of pieces. Its very elegant, relatively fast but kind of weird and frustrating to use sometimes, though the 1.5 version has loosened the handcuffs a few notches since the initial release. WriteUp is fast, nice and works ok... but then so does Edit. Its really very sparse and doesn't have a lot of the features you might want or expect. OpenWrite is right there in the middle between WriteUp and something giant like Pages and seems to be the closest thing to what you'd think of as a word processor like Word or Nissus on the PC or Mac. I think you can get a very cheap (cost of media) demo of Pages, so you might want to check it out and if it doesnt suit you, go with OpenWrite, which I think is on the ftp sites in demo form as well. WriteUp just doesn't seem like its worth the step up from Edit, since it doesnt really do much more than Edit does. PasteUp is a cool app though.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 8 Dec 1994 23:31:27 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c8miv$r8n@digifix.digifix.com> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn writes > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: > > Pages by Pages > Write-Up > OpenWrite > > And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? > Demos of WriteUp and OpenWrite are available from ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos/editors Pages by Pages has a Watchme demo on orst as well.. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: t-shawki@uiuc.edu (Tarek G. Shawki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Coexistence of NeXT and OS2 Warp? Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:01:46 Organization: University of Illinois Message-ID: <t-shawki.2.000907D9@uiuc.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Intel, OS2, Warp Is anyone familiar with whether or not NeXT, DOS, Windows 3.1 and OS2 Warp can peacefully exist on an Intel computer? In particular, I do have an Intel GX Professional running both NeXT and a DOS/Win combination. I am planning to install OS2 Warp and worried about the behavior of OS2 boot manager and whether or not it will overwrite the boot sector during installation? I appreciate your help Tarek G. Shawki University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign e-mail: t-shawki@uiuc.edu (NeXT mail OK)
From: muellerc@mathcs.carleton.edu (Carl Muelller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase 4.1 Chapter 7 Date: 8 Dec 1994 16:58:38 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <3c7dvu$3vl@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> Keywords: Sybase HELP! we desperately need Chapter 7 of the documentation for Sybase version 4.1 that came with the original NeXTs. Ours was chopped off in midsentance, and we need some of the advanced options for ALTER TABLE and ALTER DATABASE. So, please post or, if it pleases you, could you send it to muellerc@mathcs.carleton.edu. You can send by NeXT mail if you wish. Thank you very much. -Carl Mueller
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Public Domain X server/client for NS/Intel? Date: 9 Dec 1994 01:41:39 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3c8u73$kmt@panix2.panix.com> References: <1994Dec3.063758.18968@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <D09Gr7.4wF@tor.hookup.net> <3btedn$n1a@xmission.xmission.com> : In an email exchange earlier this year, one of the original authors of : Mouse-X told me it's much harder than a mere recompile of existing source; : an Intel X server/client would require many hours of work to port--as well as : an Intel machine. : Perhaps some NEXTSTEP/Intel hardware vendor could dangle a carrot in front of : a would-be developer--the use of an NEXTSTEP/Intel machine for a certain : amount of time, say one year--in exchange for a finished, working X : server/client for Intel. In exchange, the vendor would have its name and : contact displayed in the Info Panel for time and all eternity. This would be : an excellent demonstration of commitment to the NEXTSTEP community. : I know at least one vendor; I'll talk with them and see what they can do. : Perhaps a would-be developer could step forward at the same time. : Anyway, : ...............................kris : -- : Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live Occasionally a flame feels good. Porting X11R6 is a pretty major port, to any system. With NS/intel, you have the best GUI and development environment ever developed on a UNIX platform. To do a really good port, that would allow a developer to develop X11 apps, using Project Builder and all the other amazing facilities NS provides, would be a large under taking, for out of my range as a developer, but then again I basically find GUI a tad annoying. As far as I know, Cube X is a pretty good compromise, and last time I checked it wasn't very expensive, what is the big deal about paying for a little soft- ware ? Anyway, Flame over. If anyone would want to form a consortium to build such a system, ie true integration of NS and X11, in order to sell it to cure Sun's problem, I mean sell it to Sun, I'm in. I've got NS/intel and some free time, any takers ? --later, RS rsilver@panix.com
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT software FAQ Date: 9 Dec 1994 01:45:31 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3c8ueb$l1m@panix2.panix.com> Summary: Where is it ? Keywords: FAQ,software I keep seeing the same questions in this space. I believe wee need a weekly posted FAQ ? Maybe, it exists, anybody know ? --later, RS rsilver@panix.com,rsilver@sgc.com
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Q: Database Frontend for NEXT & Mac / Mac NFS ? Date: 9 Dec 1994 10:59:25 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c9dad$fp4@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo we need to develop a Frontend to our Sybase database, which works on NEXTSTEP and on Macs. It is no problem to achieve everything we need with EOF on the NEXTs, but we have no idea how to do the same for our Macs. Is there any product available, which enables parallel development of Frontends on both systems? Or is there a product simmilar to Vario Data Pro for macs (which can be used as a database frontend)? we also need to connect our Macs into our SUN NEXT network. Is there a product like PC-Nfs for Macs? Thanks for any Information -- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 e -mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Database Frontend for NEXT & Mac / Mac NFS ? Date: 9 Dec 1994 10:59:39 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c9dar$hec@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo we need to develop a Frontend to our Sybase database, which works on NEXTSTEP and on Macs. It is no problem to achieve everything we need with EOF on the NEXTs, but we have no idea how to do the same for our Macs. Is there any product available, which enables parallel development of Frontends on both systems? Or is there a product simmilar to Vario Data Pro for macs (which can be used as a database frontend)? we also need to connect our Macs into our SUN NEXT network. Is there a product like PC-Nfs for Macs? Thanks for any Information -- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 e -mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Looking for music software and hardware for professional use Message-ID: <D0Fxz3.8u@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 12:42:38 GMT Hi, I'm a composer and I work with a Yamaha SY77. What would allow me to be able to compose with my Intel-based NeXT ? I'd need special software and hardware (like a DSP). Can someone point out to me what I could do ? Money is not an issue, I'm looking for the best. Thanks
From: ntt@garnet.msen.com (National TechTeam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lotus Improv Date: 9 Dec 1994 11:50:12 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <3c9g9k$pto$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <9412041412.AA00692@black13> Support from Lotus is unlikely; the product is discontinued. There is a Improv compatible spreadsheet from Lighthouse Design (I think!?) called Quantrix (?) that I saw demoed in Chicago a while back. They made it as compatible as the Lotus lawyers would let them (no tear-off tickets...). Alan Frabutt (amf@ntt.com) Norbert Heger (bertl@ecs.co.at) wrote: : I'm using Lotus Improv Release 1.0 v108r0 : Especially on large spreadsheets this version seems to be very : buggy (Assert Error, Bus Error, Segmentation Fault, etc ...) : - Is there any update available running NEXTSTEP? : - Does anybody know how to contact Lotus Inc. for further informations? : Thanks : ........................................................................... : __________________________________________________________________________ : Norbert Heger : bertl@ecs.co.at (NeXTMail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: EOF 1.0 Message-ID: <1994Dec9.114216.19463@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 11:42:16 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I keep seeing this mentioned in this and other groups. I have a couple of questions. What is it? What does it do? Is it part of NS3.3? If not, where do you get it and what does it cost? Thanks. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.windows.x.apps From: erik@sultan.ping.de (Erik Doernenburg) Subject: SNNS on NeXT with X-Windows? Message-ID: <1994Dec8.233853.2037@sultan.ping.de> Sender: erik@sultan.ping.de References: <1994Dec4.025053.3181@sultan.ping.de> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 23:38:53 GMT Nobody could help me in comp.ai.neural-nets, so I'm reposting it here: > > I just got SNNS 3.3 (Stuttgart Neural Network Simulator) from > the archives and it compiled fairly well under NeXTSTEP 3.2. But > when I try to start the xgui it just crashes with a floating > exception. I know that this is not much, but all I have at the > moment is the stackframe: > > Starting program: /Interzone/Diverses/SNNS/SNNSv3.3/xgui/sources/xgui > Program generated(3): Arithmetic exception. > 0xe898c in NXCreateZone () > (gdb) bt > #0 0xe898c in NXCreateZone () > #1 0xe84dc in malloc_init () > #2 0xeaa68 in malloc () > #3 0xb3f24 in ExpandQuarkTable () > #4 0xb410c in _XrmInternalStringToQuark () > #5 0xb424e in XrmPermStringToQuark () > #6 0xc8cf4 in XrmInitialize () > #7 0x9975a in XtToolkitInitialize () > #8 0x9a558 in XtAppInitialize () > #9 0x4aa2 in main () > > Any ideas? Or would anybody be willing to send me a NeXT binary of any > version of SNNS? What can you do to a simple malloc call to make the program crash? I've never seen anything like this. In fact, not even a failed malloc. Please e-mail any hints since I don't know too much about X and it looks like I've some debugging sessions ahead... thanks in advance erik -- _____________________________________________________ Erik Doernenburg, Adolfstr. 25, 44793 Bochum, Germany Phone: +49-234-681027 (NeXT)mail: erik@sultan.ping.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Organization: Madge Networks Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 14:33:15 GMT Message-ID: <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Cliff Elam (celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com) wrote: : Help - : I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the : software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has There is a NEXTSTEP kernel patch dating from around June this year that fixes some "SoftPC just disapears" problems (assuming that you're running 3.2). It might be worth investigating this. -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:17:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ca3g6$6r6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: ^^^^^^^^^^^ > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: > > Pages by Pages > Write-Up > OpenWrite > How 'bout ... WordPerfect :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase 4.1 Chapter 7 Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:21:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ca3m5$6st@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3c7dvu$3vl@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> In article <3c7dvu$3vl@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> muellerc@mathcs.carleton.edu (Carl Muelller) writes: > we desperately need Chapter 7 of the documentation for Sybase version 4.1 > that came with the original NeXTs. Ours was chopped off in midsentance, > and we need some of the advanced options for ALTER TABLE and ALTER > DATABASE. So, please post > All you need to do is open the corrupted PostScript file in your favorite editor, excise the corrupted portion, and adjust the PS page numbers (you'll lose a couple of pages :-( Then you'll be able to view and print everything else. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 16:48:32 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec9.164832.23489@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: >My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners >for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited, >the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine. I have a low level driver for the ScanFx scanner. The pre-scan example is a simple application, all interfaces are done with read, write and ioctl UNIX calls at this point. Drop me, or talus systems a note. Ciao -- Mark
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT software FAQ Date: 9 Dec 1994 21:45:20 -0000 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <3caj5g$3jk@digifix.digifix.com> References: <3ca7c2$4ho@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn writes > Russell Silverman (rsilver@panix.com) wrote: > : I keep seeing the same questions in this space. I believe wee > : need a weekly posted FAQ ? Maybe, it exists, anybody know ? > > As far as I know there hasn't been a FAQ posted in these newsgroups as > long as I've been reading them. (Over a year now...) Looking at the > comp.sys.next.* hierarchy in the FAQ archives on rtfm.mit.edu reveals the > FAQ from comp.object and the UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) FAQ. > That's it. Nothing NeXTSTEP specific. So, I think it's safe to say that > the NeXT FAQs are dead. > > I recently posted a message asking for advice on NeXTSTEP word processors. > I was planning on posting a summary once I had compiled the results. I'd > be more than willing to use that as a starting point for a software FAQ. > Anyone interested? I wouldn't say they are dead, but they are definately in a coma. The current FAQ master nathan@jacobi.biology.YALE.EDU is aware of the situation. The problem is that the FAQs are in drastic need of a total re-write, and thats not a simple task. I've been working on some software type FAQs for Stepwise (the really early first draft stuff is at http://www.stepwise.com/Software/index.html), currently I've got some pretty sparse coverage of SLIP/PPP software and Web Browsers.... other obvious stuff: internet front ends, compiling Unix software for NEXTSTEP, etc etc... I would be quite open to people offering suggestions for such an FAQ, and I will make them available via the Web, and FTP (and possibly here if there is interest). -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Coexistence of NeXT and OS2 Warp? Date: 9 Dec 1994 22:40:00 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3camc0$m5f@maple.enet.net> References: <t-shawki.2.000907D9@uiuc.edu> In article <t-shawki.2.000907D9@uiuc.edu> t-shawki@uiuc.edu (Tarek G. Shawki) writes: > Is anyone familiar with whether or not NeXT, DOS, Windows 3.1 and OS2 Warp can > peacefully exist on an Intel computer? In particular, I do have an Intel GX > Professional running both NeXT and a DOS/Win combination. I am planning to > install OS2 Warp and worried about the behavior of OS2 boot manager and > whether or not it will overwrite the boot sector during installation? > Using the OS/2 boot manager may let you overcome that. You just have to make the boot manager parition startable/bootable (dunno which one) and set all the other partitions you want to be startable/bootable (inverse of what the boot manager is) and it'll let you choose when the machine has come up and all the firmware BIOSs have booted up.
From: moth@bluejay.berry.edu (Thomas E. Leathrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX on NS 3.3 Date: 9 Dec 1994 21:48:29 GMT Message-ID: <3cajbd$m4u@myriad.pc.cc.cmu.edu> Has TeX been updated from v3.141 to v3.1415 in the NS 3.3 distribution? I am running NS 3.2 (FIP), which includes TeX 3.141, but has added a few new options, like the "-v" command line option, to run with TeXview. A colleague of mine (with the same hardware/system configuration) downloaded the new TeX (3.1415) and compiled it, but the standard distribution does not include these options, so TeXview doesn't work properly. Actually, what would be ideal is if someone can point me to a standard patch to the TeX code that will get it to compile with the new options. Regards, Tom Leathrum Dept of Math Sci Berry College tleathrum@berry.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT? References: <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> <3c4jat$ing@bilbo.suite.com> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:10:49 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec9.091049.21975@proximus.north.de> In article <3c4jat$ing@bilbo.suite.com>, Scot Shepherd <Scot_Shepherd@suite.com> wrote: >In article <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev) writes: >> Hey, does anyone have a threaded news reader for NeXT (commercial >> of shareware)? Any leads will be appreciated. >> >> Sincerely, >> Ivan Kiselev >One option is tin. It's not a grphical front end but works quite nicely... >I got it at cs.orst.edu 128.193.32.1 Then there is trn (3.6 is the latest version, of 11/20/94) and strn 0.92. Both are in a shell, but especially strn seems to be really cool! (scoring for articles, virtual newsgroups, self-defined hierarchies, merged newsgroups, and so on...) You have to ask archie where to get them, I forgot. Ah, yes. You WILL get problems compiling those beasts. (no, -posix doesn't help, either.) However, I can send you a config.sh. (Maybe I even compile a hints-file...) Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: help installing ispell Message-ID: <D0IKF0.BBu@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 22:42:35 GMT Hello world, This is the 3rd+ time that I try to install ispell, and yet I fail again... Help! It couls be that all i need is the local.h file, but whatever I do I keep getting errors when I Make all... Couls someone send me a local.h file? (black h/w) Thks! --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 15:41:01 GMT Message-ID: <3c9tqd$70j@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <3c8hmi$aq9@crcnis3.unl.edu> jonathan ham writes > Shawn Lynn (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: > : I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > : NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > : products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: > > : Pages by Pages > : Write-Up > : OpenWrite > > I can only comment on Pages, as I haven't the resources to try them all. > > I am disappointed, however, that they don't have a design model that is > appropriate for putting together research papers. I'd love to have one > that combined the layout power of TeX with the ease of use of Pages, complete > with style-logic that encourages good research-paper format. All of the > Pages design models are, sad to say, geared towards the business suits > concerned about corporate image. > > Hey, Pages, do you suppose that you could throw an academic design model > my way? Didn't think so... > That's what troubles me as well. Wouldn't it be possible to combine it with EquationBuilder. Pages wouldn't have the power over the font chosen in EqB. Yet we would be able to produce scientific texts with Pages. It only needed a new object in the placed items like the Graphics, an Equation object, and then build a design model around it. would be great ... -- Moritz Willers Institute of Theoretical Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 3012 Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 14:44:54 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Message-ID: <3c9qh6$ue6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: : I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for : NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the : products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: : Pages by Pages : Write-Up : OpenWrite You forgot FrameMaker! : I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many : templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just a : basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? There are about seven templates up to now if I remember right. Unfortunately, the design modeler app isn't released yet and personally I'd need my own templates if I used Pages. However, you can also just go ahead and type without any template usage, but as soon as you need a headline or an indentation, you use a style template. I like the different approach Pages provides for word processing, but I cannot do corporate identity work if I cannot create my own styles. I think I'll order Pages as soon as the design modeler gets released. : Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I don't think : that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the above do : equations? Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? You can do equations separately with EquationBuilder for each of these apps. FrameMaker is the only exception that comes with modules for tables and equations. OpenWrite uses nifty OOE for including tables from Questor and equations from EquationBuilder - both apps support OOE. : And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? It is the WinWord-like word processor and definetly worth to look at. You can find a demo on ftp.cs.orst.edu or ftp.uni-stuttgart.de. FrameMaker is the most sophisticated, most professional - and most expensive - solution. The choice won't be easy :-) Markus. -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting mail? // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
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From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GhostScript problems with Diagram's arrowheads Date: 9 Dec 1994 22:53:53 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199412092200.WAA05091@beep.roadrunner.com> Here's a weird bug I wasn't expecting: Running NS 3.2/I with GhostScript 2.6.1 driving an HP DeskJet 560C, using Steve Ludtke's ghostHPDJ v0.1 package. When using Diagram2.1, I am having printing hangups -- the job never gets to the printer, the hard disk just keeps clunking away with a regular, slow rhythm. I have traced the problem to the lines I have drawn between point-objects. The hangup occurs IF THOSE LINES HAVE ARROWHEADS. If they don't, no hangup. (The hangup is not terribly consistent, sometimes I can get as many as three of the arrowheaded lines printed, sometimes not.) The DOTS demo driver does NOT have this problem, so it looks Lighthouse can claim that the ball is not in their court. Another GS weirdness is that a colored font shows up as dithered gray. Again, the DOTS driver handles the color OK. (The GS driver prints the colors in the imbedded TIFF files all right.) -- Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. 505-662-7309 (voice) 505-662-7601 (fax) silbar@beep.roadrunner.com
From: silbar@roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GhostScript problems with Diagram's arrowheads Date: 9 Dec 1994 22:56:56 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199412092203.WAA05158@beep.roadrunner.com> Here's a weird bug I wasn't expecting: Running NS 3.2/I with GhostScript 2.6.1 driving an HP DeskJet 560C, using Steve Ludtke's ghostHPDJ v0.1 package. When using Diagram2.1, I am having printing hangups -- the job never gets to the printer, the hard disk just keeps clunking away with a regular, slow rhythm. I have traced the problem to the lines I have drawn between point-objects. The hangup occurs IF THOSE LINES HAVE ARROWHEADS. If they don't, no hangup. (The hangup is not terribly consistent, sometimes I can get as many as three of the arrowheaded lines printed, sometimes not.) The DOTS demo driver does NOT have this problem, so it looks Lighthouse can claim that the ball is not in their court. Another GS weirdness is that a colored font shows up as dithered gray. Again, the DOTS driver handles the color OK. (The GS driver prints the colors in the imbedded TIFF files all right.) -- Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. 505-662-7309 (voice) 505-662-7601 (fax) silbar@beep.roadrunner.com
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mix software modem - severe problems with Date: 10 Dec 1994 05:46:39 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3cbfc0$9oh@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <D0GBw9.H0@hazel.north.de> Keywords: mix, modem, ilink gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) writes: >I have lots of problems with mix, the DSP software modem of i-link. >The i-link support does not answer mail, so my only remaining hope is to >find someone on the net who has an idea what to do. >The problem: >Sometimes I get this message in /tmp/console.log: > mix:mixdriver_write failed: timed out(-103) > >The only remedy then is a reboot (of the computer, not - as one might >think - of the modem). >This probability of this happening seems correlated to the amount of data >to be sent. I have never seen this message when I only receive data. It >happens rarely when I sent few data, fairly often with large amounts of >data ( several kilobytes ). >If this problem happens once this also greatly increases the chance of the >same thing happening again after the reboot. Recently it took 10 reboots >to send 30kB. >Has anybody seen this? Does anybody use mix at all? >Has NXFax finally an integrated answering machine? >In the latter case, I would throw away mix immediately - it is just >completely unstable, and the mix support has no clues at all (or, if they >have, they are not prepared not tell me). >Gerriet. Which version of mix are you using? Thte "newer" version of mix are much better, and yes, you are right, it is very difficult to get any response at all from i.link, the makers of mix. It is a pity given that mix is such an elegant thing. Too bad that the people i.link just don't give a sh*t about their customers.... heikki ketola
From: msiegler+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew A Siegler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: net-talk Date: 10 Dec 1994 05:54:19 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Message-ID: <3cbfqb$j7t@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Is there a NeXT base talk program similar to mtalk that allows two individuals on two machines across the internet to engage in a voice-voice duplex conversation? I know this is easy to implement on Suns, but I am interesetd in a NeXT<->NeXT as well as NeXT<->UNIX connection. -- >>---- the faster you run -----------------> msiegler@cs.cmu.edu <----------------- the longer it takes ----<<
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Database Frontend for NEXT & Mac / Mac NFS ? Date: Sat, 10 DEC 94 02:54:38 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <hk80WXO.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <3c9dad$fp4@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Gabor: Try Dana at : dana@oceansoft.com Product is called "Complete Access" Regards, Marty
From: eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:28:44 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ca7ks$mru@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <3c93bu$1co@news.bu.edu> Bryony Bechtold writes Well I beta tested OpenWrite for Xanthus and have since purchased it (well, upgraded from WordPerfect AKA Yuck!) so I can say a bit about that. I also demoed WriteUp and used to have (way back in grad school) Framemaker 3.x so I'll add those comments too. WriteUp ------- This is a great replacement for WriteNow and Edit. It's very feature sparse, but is fast and very gui (unlike Edit). For my purposes(variable columns within docs, footnotes, lots of graphics and equations), however it is insufficient. WordPerfect ----------- In two words: IT SUCKS. FrameMaker ---------- If I were writing a book, or if I had the money, I'd choose FM mainly because I learned how to use all of its features way back when. What I like most was if I completely rearranged my thesis, it kept track of all my cross-references and renumbered all my figs and equations. Interestingly, back then I'd write much of the text within WriteNow and then paste it into FM. OpenWrite --------- I honestly feel this is the best word processor (i.e. not DTP package) for NextStep that I've seen. I haven't used PasteUp or Pages, but my impression is that these are really DTP packages. OpenWrite let's me use tons of graphics and equations and links these to other packages so I can, for instance, just click on an equation and it'll pull up Equation Builder and that file for editing. It allows multiple text frames (and frames within frames within frames) so I can vary the number of columns within a single document. It has *baseline* support. It's reasonable fast (on my turbo), quite intuitive and, best of all, Xanthus is *very* responsive. As a beta tester I found a number of bugs and not one took more than a day for these folks to track down and repair. I'll note also that there are a couple minor bugs in 1.0 which are mentioned in the release notes. I've had no problems with 1.0 though and I've got some pretty complicated docs going. Finally, for those who have either WriteNow or YUCK! (wordperfect) the $149 upgrade is a steal! I'll try to get around to posting a more in-depth review in the not too distant future... Great Job Jesper and Bertil (and Dave for all the email help)! -E
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT software FAQ Date: 9 Dec 1994 11:24:02 -0700 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <3ca7c2$4ho@keflavik.wordperfect.com> References: <3c8ueb$l1m@panix2.panix.com> Russell Silverman (rsilver@panix.com) wrote: : I keep seeing the same questions in this space. I believe wee : need a weekly posted FAQ ? Maybe, it exists, anybody know ? As far as I know there hasn't been a FAQ posted in these newsgroups as long as I've been reading them. (Over a year now...) Looking at the comp.sys.next.* hierarchy in the FAQ archives on rtfm.mit.edu reveals the FAQ from comp.object and the UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) FAQ. That's it. Nothing NeXTSTEP specific. So, I think it's safe to say that the NeXT FAQs are dead. I recently posted a message asking for advice on NeXTSTEP word processors. I was planning on posting a summary once I had compiled the results. I'd be more than willing to use that as a starting point for a software FAQ. Anyone interested? : --later, RS : rsilver@panix.com,rsilver@sgc.com Grettir
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:26:50 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Message-ID: <3ca7ha$49j@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> In article <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) writes: > Cliff Elam (celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com) wrote: > : Help - > > : I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the > : software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has > > There is a NEXTSTEP kernel patch dating from around June this year that fixes > some "SoftPC just disapears" problems (assuming that you're running 3.2). It > might be worth investigating this. > I'm using SoftPC 4.0 and NS 3.2. Now I'm getting APT's from Windoze programs using the serial port. Sigh. -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 10 Dec 1994 10:28:21 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cbvs5$c4f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: > > Pages by Pages > Write-Up > OpenWrite If you have *very* deep pockets, you could buy FrameMaker. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Print with page numbering in Edit? Date: 9 Dec 1994 19:20:22 GMT Organization: TASC Message-ID: <3caalm$mm9@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> I am using the text editor that I believe is supplied by Next, V3.0 (v84) on my blackbox running V3.2. I occasionally get large text files and want to print them. Is there any way to put a page number on each page? So far, I have not found a way -- -- This message made entirely from recycled electrons Michael Shunfenthal | mdshunfenthal@tasc.com | The Analytic Sciences Corporation shunfemd@rest.tasc.com | Reston, VA 22090 Compuserve: 76320,122 | 703 834-5000 x2456 Nextmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: michael@mcnabb.com (Michael McNabb) Subject: Re: Looking for music software and hardware for professional use Message-ID: <1994Dec9.234036.12187@mcnabb.com> Sender: michael@mcnabb.com References: <D0Fxz3.8u@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 23:40:36 GMT In article <D0Fxz3.8u@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes: > Hi, > > I'm a composer and I work with a Yamaha SY77. What would allow me to be > able to compose with my Intel-based NeXT ? I'd need special software and > hardware (like a DSP). > > Can someone point out to me what I could do ? Money is not an issue, I'm > looking for the best. > > Thanks > If money is not an issue, sell the PC and get a PowerMac and Digidesign DSP board. You'll make a lot more music. Michael McNabb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <D0JvvJ.rn@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:47:43 GMT In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many > templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just > a basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? Actually, Pages isn't template-oriented (though you can certainly create and use templates if you wish, and Pages comes with a rather large set of them). Pages _does_ use the concept of design models, which are something quite different from templates--they're more like multi-dimensional style sheets on steroids, with teeth. But, yes, you can simply launch Pages, open a new document, and type and change styles to your heart's content. I've written from scratch FAX cover sheets, letters, white papers, and even an entire book using Pages, but, then, I'm biased. ;-) To avoid being too commercial, I'll simply point you to info@pages.com (for literature) and the Pages self-running demo at ftp.cs.orst.edu (look at /software/NeXT/demos/editors). The first three examples in the demo do use templates, but that's because most of our large customers do. The last example shows laying out a newsletter from scratch. Hope this helps. ..bruce.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | The thought that life could be better CTO, Pages Software Inc | Is woven indelibly bwebster@pages.com | Into our hearts and our brains. #import <pages/disclaimer.h> | -- Paul Simon, "Train in the Distance" --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cs@ecs.co.at> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 14:16:25 +0100 From: Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at> Message-ID: <9412101316.AA04341@zaphod> Subject: Re: SNNS on NeXT with X-Windows? In article <1994Dec8.233853.2037@sultan.ping.de> erik@sultan.ping.de (Erik Doernenburg) writes: > [...] > What can you do to a simple malloc call to make the program crash? I've > never seen anything like this. In fact, not even a failed malloc. Please > e-mail any hints since I don't know too much about X and it looks like > I've some debugging sessions ahead... The memory-management on the NeXT has various levels of argument-checks and debug-modi. The default behaviour is, that a free() to an unallocated block does not crash, but the next malloc() after such a free() generates an exception. You can either use one of the higher debug-levels (I have never tried this), or you can write your own version of malloc and free (and the other allocation-routines) that do argument-checking before calling the original versions. -- Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at> or <cs@ekpds1.tuwien.ac.at>
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 10 Dec 1994 20:03:27 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cd1if$fje@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <3cbvs5$c4f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> WordPerfect may not be the greatest NS app, but it allows me to edit and return some documents produced by my secretary. In fact, I would be happy to pay for a higher version of WP (5.2 or 6.0). In any case, let us give credit to the only remaining "big standard application software" company with *any* NeXTStep product. (No Borland, Microsoft or Lotus software, etc., is available on NS/FIP.) Equationbuilder unfortunately allows no resale, even the non-academic version. They have good reasons to have this policy, but I will not buy anything that I cannot sell if something else comes along that I prefer. PasteUp also is a pretty good package. Both PasteUp and Pages are solid products, and I have not yet made up my mind which I prefer. They both have advantages and disadvantages. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: mark@jehu.extern.ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Date: 10 Dec 1994 09:08:24 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cbr68$6ha@network.ucsd.edu> For those of you who responded to my cries for help regarding NewsGrazer, thank you! -- ================================================================== Mark Trombino trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D. ==================================================================
From: hunner@mcs.com (Eric Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HTTP Server for Next? Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 10:51:54 -0600 Organization: United Media Corporation Message-ID: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> Hi all, I was going to run an http server on a Mac at the office, but even the most ardent Mac supporters at the office said we should use the NeXT. Does anyone know: 1) Is there HTTP server software for the NeXT? 2) What about a FTP server? 3) Is Perl available for the NeXT? 4) Would all of these involve re-compiling? Please drop me a line if you have any info. Thanks, Eric Dodson hunner@mcs.com
From: dclhomm@unity.ncsu.edu (Daniel Cha L'hommedieu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: 11 Dec 1994 22:17:40 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <3cftq4$e60@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> References: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> hunner@mcs.com (Eric Dodson) writes: >1) Is there HTTP server software for the NeXT? Well, I don't know if what I got was specific to the NeXT, but I run some version of httpd that I found sometime. When my machine is online (saturn.interpath.net), you can http to: http://saturn.interpath.net/ >2) What about a FTP server? By default, the NeXT comes with an FTP server. If you mean "anonymous" FTP, you'll need to create a user ftp to get that. Rather easy. >3) Is Perl available for the NeXT? Again, I have some version of perl from somewhere working... >4) Would all of these involve re-compiling? The perl and http, yes. The FTP server, no. If you can't find either of these online, let me know and I'll upload them to ftp.interpath.net:/tmp/dclhomm/ Daniel -- Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu / Senior, NCSU CSC Department GCS -d+ p---(+++) c++ l+++ u++ e+ m+(-) s n+(---) h* \ |\|/| dclhomm@eos.ncsu.edu f+ g-- w t(+) r-- x? |-o-| http://www2.ncsu.edu/eos/users/d/dclhomm/ |/|\|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Do I need a driver for my SupraFax v.32bis modem for NeXT Faxing? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 22:53:28 GMT Message-ID: <D0o4x4.Iuq@news2.new-york.net> Subject says it all. Do I need a driver for faxing docs from my NeXTStation running 3.1 to a SupraFax v.32bis modem? It's class 2 compatible, but it isn't listed in the modem options list (only two choices!) Thanks Matt -- ====== Matthew Hocker, B.Eng [W]-cooled Volkswagen fanatic **** Canadian NeXT hocker@mordor.com GTI, Scirocco 16V, Jetta 16V * \/ * +American mail This posting is recyclable! ...Amiga forever... *\/\/* ========== Welcome "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.windows.x.apps Subject: Re: SNNS on NeXT with X-Windows? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.windows.x.apps Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:03:04 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3cg3vo$fpr@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Dec8.233853.2037@sultan.ping.de> Erik Doernenburg (erik@sultan.ping.de) wrote: : Nobody could help me in comp.ai.neural-nets, so I'm reposting it here: : > Starting program: /Interzone/Diverses/SNNS/SNNSv3.3/xgui/sources/xgui : > Program generated(3): Arithmetic exception. : > 0xe898c in NXCreateZone () : > (gdb) bt : > #0 0xe898c in NXCreateZone () : > #1 0xe84dc in malloc_init () : > #2 0xeaa68 in malloc () : > #3 0xb3f24 in ExpandQuarkTable () : > #4 0xb410c in _XrmInternalStringToQuark () : > #5 0xb424e in XrmPermStringToQuark () : > #6 0xc8cf4 in XrmInitialize () : > #7 0x9975a in XtToolkitInitialize () : > #8 0x9a558 in XtAppInitialize () : > #9 0x4aa2 in main () : > : > Any ideas? Or would anybody be willing to send me a NeXT binary of any : > version of SNNS? : What can you do to a simple malloc call to make the program crash? I've : never seen anything like this. In fact, not even a failed malloc. Please : e-mail any hints since I don't know too much about X and it looks like : I've some debugging sessions ahead... It's not a failed malloc call. The program must have trashed some other memory accidentally at some previous time, and corrupted malloc's internal data structures. This is a horrible bug to fix, and comes up frequently in C programs unfortunately. Most other languages prevent or at least allow you to minimize such errors. : -- : _____________________________________________________ : Erik Doernenburg, Adolfstr. 25, 44793 Bochum, Germany : Phone: +49-234-681027 (NeXT)mail: erik@sultan.ping.de -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP Help Date: 11 Dec 1994 23:57:33 GMT Organization: String to put in the Organization Header Message-ID: <3cg3ld$da1@nova.voicenet.com> Where can I find a SLIP package for NS/FIP???? Darren
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Do I need a driver for my SupraFax v.32bis modem for NeXT Faxing? Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:50:08 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3cg6o0$8i2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <D0o4x4.Iuq@news2.new-york.net> In article <D0o4x4.Iuq@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) writes: > Do I need a driver for faxing docs from my NeXTStation running 3.1 to a > SupraFax v.32bis modem? It's class 2 compatible, but it isn't listed in the > modem options list (only two choices!) Yes, you need NXFax, by Black & White Software. As NeXTstep 3.3 was just released, you may wish to find out if it supports the SupraFax v.32bis, and if so, spend $200 to upgrade to 3.3 and get a good bit of other cool stuff as well, instead of paying $130 for NXFax. NXFax is very good software, however, and I've had excellent support from them. I suspect that even if 3.3 supports the Supra, it won't support both dial-in and incoming fax simultaneously - NXFax does, and does so very well. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Do I need a driver for my SupraFax v.32bis modem for NeXT Faxing? Date: 12 Dec 1994 03:30:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cgg5d$1223@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3cg6o0$8i2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <3cg6o0$8i2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) writes: > In article <D0o4x4.Iuq@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew > Hocker) writes: > > > Do I need a driver for faxing docs from my NeXTStation running 3.1 to a > > SupraFax v.32bis modem? It's class 2 compatible, but it isn't listed in > the > > modem options list (only two choices!) As Mark Salyzyn noted, mgetty+sendfax also works for sending. I have not tried it for receiving. Mark also included a file for integrating faxing into the print panel. I could dig it up if your interested. - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Department of Computer Science | Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2 "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Trouble with Bookmarks in OmniWeb Message-ID: <1994Dec11.201341.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 04:13:41 GMT I've got a small problem with Bookmarks in OmniWeb. We're running version 0.7.something, sorry I can't get to the app at the moment to get the exact version number (but will supply it if required). For administrative reasons, our users' home directories were renamed (mv'd) to a different point in the directory tree, e.g., /Net/host/grp1/joeuser --> /Net/host/grp2/joeuser ^ ^ After the change, OmniWeb _still_ tries to open: /Net/host/grp1/joeuser/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html ^^^^ instead of /Net/host/grp2/joeuser/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html ^^^^ It appears the full path is stored in the application. We tried to type in the new correct path, but when we subsequently click to access the bookmarks, the application dies (this is repeatable). So how _does_ one go about telling OmniWeb that the Bookmarks.html is in a new location??? Do I really have to reinstall the app? :-( Thanks for any advice... -Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: 12 Dec 1994 04:57:12 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3cgl78$5k@core.symnet.net> References: <3cftq4$e60@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Daniel Cha L'hommedieu writes > hunner@mcs.com (Eric Dodson) writes: > >1) Is there HTTP server software for the NeXT? Of course, HTTP was originaly developed at cern on NeXT hardware & software. You'll find precompiled versions of httpd for NeXTstep at the cern www site. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gar@netcom.com (Adam Capell) Subject: Postscript Software RIP Message-ID: <garD0oKvn.8Ls@netcom.com> Organization: Pigdog Journal Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 04:38:11 GMT Can anyone tell me if there is a Software-based postscript RIP available for NEXTSTEP, commercial or otherwise? Also, if you'll excuse me for being ignorant and not up-to-date on Happening in this arena, does anyone know if NEXTSTEP has made any kind of headway into the pre-press industry, or did everyone abandon the whole idea? A.J. Capell gar@netcom.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:47:49 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <3cgo65$buu@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online ---------------------------------------------------- A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. 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From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: 12 Dec 1994 13:25:50 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <3chj0u$9n0@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <3cgl78$5k@core.symnet.net> Steve Dekorte writes > You'll find precompiled > versions of httpd for NeXTstep at the cern www site. Forgive me if I should know this (or be able to figure it out), but what is the address for the cern site? Thanks - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: OmniWeb vs. httpd In-Reply-To: Bruce Gingery's message of Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:46:18 GMT To: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec11101829@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <STEPHAN.94Dec6211808@rodion.muc.de> <1994Dec7.104618.503@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 09:18:29 GMT On 7 Dec 1994 10:46:18, Bruce Gingery (BG) wrote: BG> BG> In article <STEPHAN.94Dec6211808@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de BG> (Stephan Wacker) writes: BG> }~ I forgot to mention that the images work very well when I don't BG> }~ use my proxy. BG> }~ BG> BG> What about imagemap items (hot-area mapped in-line images)? as BG> produced by NCSA's daemon using the cgi interface of "imagemap". BG> BG> Bruce Gingery BG> BG> Yes, these work, too. At least, I think this is what you mean: There is a map of the WWW servers in Germany, and when I click on a site's spot it will open that site's home page. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: OmniWeb vs. httpd In-Reply-To: stephan@rodion.muc.de's message of Sat, 3 Dec 1994 22:37:40 GMT To: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec11103028@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <STEPHAN.94Dec3233740@rodion.muc.de> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 09:30:28 GMT On 3 Dec 1994 22:37:40, Stephan Wacker (SW) -- that's me -- wrote: SW> SW> Hi, SW> This is a rather long post, but I hope it's worth reading. :) SW> SW> SW> I've recently installed the CERN caching proxy server httpd 3.0. SW> SW> When I told OmniWeb 0.7.5 to use the gateway "http://localhost:8080" SW> or the proxy "http://localhost:8080/" the HTTP requests sent to the SW> server were not always correct. SW> SW> Running httpd -vv I found that OmniWeb often repeats the proxy address SW> twice or more times, and it doesn't send the initial "http:/" at all! SW> SW> So I patched the httpd sources ;) to compensate for these bugs. SW> (Anyone interested?) This was my mistake: I selected ``Gateway'' instead of ``Proxy'' in OmniWeb's Preferences. That caused the missing `http:'. But the repeated Proxy addresses are still there, only the format is different. This seems to happen only when the same address is used a second time, e.g. when you use the Page->ViewSource menu command. So I've now changed my patch so that it removes everything before the _last_ occurrence of `/http://' including the first `/' in that pattern. SW> But now I have another problem: When the proxy receives an image/gif SW> and forwards that to OmniWeb the latter chokes to death. Its last SW> words in the Console window are: SW> OmniWeb[2010]: objc: OWImageCell: OWInlineImageStream received SW> unexpected (unformatted) data SW> SW> [...] SW> SW> But I also understand that OmniWeb needs some gif->tiff converter to SW> handle the images. I don't have OmniImageFilterServices, but SW> GraphicsWorkshop provides the same service, so that shouldn't be a SW> problem. Now that I've installed OmniImageFilter (version 3.1) everything is fine -- blush :) SW> [...] Thanks to all the people who sent me their suggestions. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Yftp In-Reply-To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de's message of 6 Dec 1994 17:10:55 GMT To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec11171208@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <3c1r20$gma@digdug.pencom.com> <3c25uv$4nf@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:12:08 GMT On 6 Dec 1994 17:10:55 GMT, Marc Guenther (MG) wrote: MG> Oh yeah, 447 is available on peanuts, orst and sonata. probably still MG> in submissions MG> MG> Have fun MG> -- MG> Marc Guenther Two questions/suggestions: Does that version have a command to remove a host from the Hosts panel? Or can you change the order of hosts? Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: WWW Browser In-Reply-To: root@athis.gttw.com's message of 6 Dec 1994 00:47:03 GMT To: root@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <3c0ca7$nk1@news.gttw.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 16:23:01 GMT On 6 Dec 1994 00:47:03 GMT, Ron Ohmer (RO) wrote: RO> RO> Hello, RO> I am looking for a WWW browser for NS3.2 and black hardware that is NOT omni RO> web, and preferablly not X.. RO> RO> Thank you, RO> Ronald R. Ohmer Jr. You may want to look for ``Nexus.app'' from CERN. I got version 2.01 (alpha) directly from ftp://ftp.w3.org/pub/www/bin/next/WorldWideWeb_2.01.tar Why don't you like OmniWeb? I've had some problems too, but they are all solved now. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 10 Dec 1994 13:50:42 -0600 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Message-ID: <3cd0qi$4vc@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <3c9qh6$ue6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel wrote: >FrameMaker is the most sophisticated, most professional - and most expensive - >solution. Framemaker is also the most difficult and biggest pain-in-the-ass word processor to use. I should know. I use it every day. (Well, 5 days a week.) Do not get me wrong, it is very powerful, but usually when you have a powerful program you also get a difficult program to use. But, if you write long documents, it is hard to beat Framemaker. (Personally, I'd like to beat it with a bat! :-) ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nntp Keywords: nntp, next Message-ID: <10720@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 12 Dec 94 13:16:32 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA So I've finally gotten to the point where I can read news at home :) . However, this wastes a lot of time online to my service provider. Does anyone have any pointers on installing nntp on a NeXT (black)? The latest that I could find is version 1.5.11. Any help would be appreciated... -peter ///// ////// //////// ///// /////// /// // /// /////// /// // /// /// /// // /// // /// /// /////// /// // //////// /// // /// //////// /// // ///////// /// /// // Peter Greis EQA Engineer 508 658-0200 x5988 fax 657-8643 greis@cg-atla.agfa.com ...!{decvax}!cg-atla!greis peter@nextlectic.tiac.net <NeXTMail at home!> ==> Adobe Registered Developer <==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <D0Irx8.IBJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:24:44 GMT In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: [ ] > Pages by Pages > Write-Up > OpenWrite > >I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many >templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just a >basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? > >Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I don't think >that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the above do >equations? Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? WriteUp is a really nice word processor. It does not do equations ( none of the above can). But you can simply get Equation Builder which is a first rate application. It works with WU. Pages is not a wp. There's another DTP'ing program called PasteUp, and of course Frame which will do equations. >And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <1994Dec11.184407.6143@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 18:44:07 GMT Shawn Lynn writes > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: > > Pages by Pages > Write-Up > OpenWrite > > I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many > templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just a > basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? > > Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I LIKE its simplicity. So far there is not too much that I have wanted to do that I cannot. Some of the features (e.g. foot notes) not there today are planned (according to Greg Anderson). I have only played with OpenWrite and Pages very briefly. Both seem to be nice apps as well. One of the things I was put off by a little was their LACK of simplicity. > I don't think that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the > above do equations? I think that WriteUp does not (at least I haven't discovered it). I personally would rather not have this as an "embedded" feature in a word processor. I'd rather have something like that "EquationBuilder" tool that was out some time ago (is it still?) I would like to see closely integrated components rather than big monolithic apps. > Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? I haven't had any complaints/problems regarding its robustness. It is solid and reliable for my needs. > And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? NOTE: My opinions are my own. I have no interest in any of the apps/companies mentioned. -- Chris Cuilla Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: 12 Dec 1994 18:23:06 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3ci4ea$np5@core.symnet.net> References: <3chj0u$9n0@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman writes > Steve Dekorte writes > > You'll find precompiled > > versions of httpd for NeXTstep at the cern www site. > > Forgive me if I should know this (or be able to figure it > out), but what is the address for the cern site? http://www.cern.ch/ should have links to their www stuff. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: gshaw@starbase1.gpl.com (George Shaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC for NS? Date: 12 Dec 1994 17:40:12 GMT Message-ID: <3ci1ts$7r1@errigle.gpl.net> Any one know of a PD app for IRC over INternet. One with a next front end would be really nice. A binary for NS-Intel would be great.. Thanks -- George Shaw (Managing Director) GENESIS PROJECT Ltd International Trade Centre Belfast "INTERPOINT" 20-24 York Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ed_chubin@vanguard.com (Ed Chubin) Subject: Re: Print with page numbering in Edit? Message-ID: <1994Dec12.163316.25271@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <3caalm$mm9@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:33:16 GMT In article <3caalm$mm9@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike)) writes: > I am using the text editor that I believe is supplied by Next, V3.0 (v84) on > my blackbox running V3.2. I occasionally get large text files and want to > print them. > > Is there any way to put a page number on each page? So far, I have not found a > way > > -- This message made entirely from recycled electrons > Michael Shunfenthal | > mdshunfenthal@tasc.com | The Analytic Sciences Corporation > shunfemd@rest.tasc.com | Reston, VA 22090 > Compuserve: 76320,122 | 703 834-5000 x2456 Nextmail accepted Look under the utilities sub-menu on Edit.app for "User Commands". There should be a command to enscript your file. You can add and modify the file .commanddict in your home directory. Check the help screen for "Add UNIX commands to a menu" to customize your own settings and for more info. ed -- Edward H. Chubin Ed_Chubin@Vanguard.com (NEXTMAIL accepted) Senior Software Engineer, Vanguard Software Corporation #include <VSCdisclaimer1.h>
From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 12 Dec 1994 20:41:52 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood City, CA, USA Message-ID: <SPETERS.94Dec12124152@samsun.us.oracle.com> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> In-reply-to: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com's message of 8 Dec 1994 11:39:33 -0700 In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options are: [...] > OpenWrite [...] > And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? Well, I've played around with the OpenWrite demo for a little while, and overall it seems extremely functional -- it's got pretty much everything I want in a word processor, so I could be pretty happy with it. Unfortunately, the text update/display seems kind of sluggish on my old slab. They provide a mode using monospaced fonts, allowing you to edit lots and lots of text without dealing with fancy formatting, and that should be a lot faster (I haven't tried it -- just noticed it while wandering through features), but it would be nice if they could speed up their text object. Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: The SIMTEL for Sale - 2 CDs with the BEST Shareware. Message-ID: <1994Dec11.223738.1240@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <ivor.119.003EEFE7@interlog.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 22:37:38 GMT why does people try to sell Win/DOS stuff (I havent said sh*t) to NS/users ? because of SOFT/PC ? why people tend to use internet for ads, more and more ? Does "ivor" an idiot... just my 2c not obtained from products sold on the net. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: "Charles W. Cooper II" <ccooper@halcyon.halcyon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:30:57 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.941212132709.27127E-100000@halcyon.com> References: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> On Sun, 11 Dec 1994, Eric Dodson wrote: > Hi all, > > I was going to run an http server on a Mac at the office, but even the > most ardent Mac supporters at the office said we should use the NeXT. > > Does anyone know: > > 1) Is there HTTP server software for the NeXT? Both the CERN and NCSA servers will compile on the Next Platform. I'm presently using the NCSA server on my next system [http://oneworld.wa.com/] > > 2) What about a FTP server? In addition to the one that comes with the next, you can get the WU-Archive server. It too, compiles easily. > > 3) Is Perl available for the NeXT? Ditto.. > > 4) Would all of these involve re-compiling? The nature of unix packages is taht you compile it for your specific platform. If by this questeion do you mean do you need the developer tools to install these packages then perhaps. I heard there was a GNU compiler package that would be suitable for doing system maintenance things out there but I haven't seen it. > > Please drop me a line if you have any info. > > Thanks, > Eric Dodson > hunner@mcs.com >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Message-ID: <1994Dec12.164925.6673@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:49:25 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Any text above this line is not part of the original message. - ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? Thanx, Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUBLux++gNA1dYvp7+lAQHCFwP8DBYmQkxcGanbf02XcI1I9P9t+Z4AlM7U JaeHpziICnKWbVnt+7kjQ04cFJMc7DC7q657RKbd9f+7Tq/47KHuYsAg7BOVcp8G wUFTRRwQ3G8gdZD4I/t5JcyJo8nrEoYBBh0b80oWq2xFrh3lctDIjXwnUMvllO3d UuCf/nC3FoA= =0H5t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB! Use PGP (the "electronic envelope") before Congress says you can't!
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Date: 12 Dec 1994 23:53:31 GMT Organization: I'm not really all that organized. Message-ID: <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> I was told that OmniWeb should automatically decompress files that end in Z when downloading (e.g. foo.ps.Z should be decompressed and loaded into the postscript previewer). However, when I download a compressed postscipt file from the high energy physics bulletin board at Los Alamos (http://xxx.lanl.gov), omniweb appends ".ps" onto the file name (which becomes something like foo.ps.Z.ps) and then tries to load that into the previewer, giving an error of course. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is this a problem with OmniWeb, or a problem with the way the bb is set up? -- Cheers, Don Petcher
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend author email Date: 13 Dec 1994 00:16:02 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3cip42$cch@gap.cco.caltech.edu> The Fiend I have (1.2) has a suggestion menu item that brings up a compose window with his email address. Except that email address (fiend@homer.uu.panix.com) just bounces back after a few days. Does anyone have a better email address for him? mark
From: tec@alumni.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best choice for NeXT<->NeXT via modem? Date: 13 Dec 1994 00:56:11 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <3cirfb$ene@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I've got an original 25 MHz color NeXTstation at home and at work, and I now have a ZyXEL modem at both ends. When I dial in withm, say, kermit I get... CONNECT 38400/ZyX 16800/V42b/SREJ ...so I would think I could get reasonable slip or ppp or ??? performance for the basics like news, email, etc. What would be the best choice for general telecommuting? I would like to as much as possible simply go home and work without having to take things with me, and to still be able to operate on the at-work NeXT largely as though I'm there. For instance, I would like to be able to run FaxReader and check (delete) faxes received at work, when I'm at home. Equally, I'd like to be able to run OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, etc. And, of course, have my file system at work appear in my at-home browser. So, what are the options, and what's easiest (cheapest?) for having to install at both ends? Thanks, Timothy Cushing tec@alta.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:55:54 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <kivDwem00WBMQAVKI8@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Dec12.164925.6673@afs.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 gnutar/gzip man pages, sources by Michael Pizolato@afs.com > I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I > can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume > are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? These programs are available via anonymous ftp at prep.ai.mit.edu: pub/gnu/tar-1.11.2.tar.gz pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar Note that the FSF does not consider having man pages to be important; they often only provide "info" pages, which can be read through Info mode in emacs by copying the info page into /usr/local/info and by editing /usr/local/info/dir. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? [NS app: Tracer] Message-ID: <D0pnIE.5C0@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <3bqq9l$5do@core.symnet.net> <1994Dec8.211925.2390@dagobah.fdn.fr> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 18:32:37 GMT In article <1994Dec8.211925.2390@dagobah.fdn.fr>, Yann Lechelle <yann@dagobah.fdn.org> wrote: >If you guys can't find 'Tracer' on any ftp site, let me know and I'll send >you the Motorola binary (it was probably compiled under 2.1... so forget >about HPPA & Intel ! at least as far as I'm concerned ;-) Actually, I suppose I *could* recompile for Intel, but since only one person has registered it, it's probably not worth it. :-) -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: TransSys PNI SLIP down on file x-fer--Help!: PPP?: LONG! Date: 13 Dec 1994 06:18:15 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <3cjeb7$9bs@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: PNI, SLIP, TransSys Hello all, I have received much pertinent info from this group on setting up my PNI SLIP (NeXT) <-> PNI SLIP (Intel) <-> WORLD connection. Thanks!!! I finally kludged the correct information to get my nameservice and routing working great, so from home it looks like I'm on the coax at work but at a slightly lower rate :>). However, when I try to download a file via any of the normal ways for the net the SLIP link goes down. I have tried (blindly of course) lowering the MTU to a smaller numbers 1500,1006,500, which had no effect, except to slow communication (at least perceived slowing). I don't know if a packet filter of some kind is needed. It seems funny that GatorFTP, RBrowser, OmniWeb, NewsGrazer etc., all load directory trees etc. which should be like file transfer (except maybe not binary, hmmmm). I can't tell if it is line noise or something else. I haven't tried using the MNP 10 support for noisy lines in the modems yet. If anyone has a clue to what I can try to make this link a little more robust, please send your wisdom to me. Again thanks for listening to this group. BTW, if it matters, the SLIP server at work is the master server for my little net at work. Both serial ports are doing 38400, which I want to increase so I can try NFS over the link (not recommended I know, but I'm hard-headed and hoping that V.Fast will compress me into bliss). Has anybody got PPP from Stephen P. working in the above mentioned configuration? Steve says to ask outloud! Alan PS. If I pay Louis M. will all my problems clear up? I sure would like to know that I can get PNI working before the cash flows since it seems there is not any difference between the setup of the real package and the free package (based on the verbiage in the manual) except possibly for feedback from the author himself. Still, I am hyper-grateful that Louis has offered this product to us for free (same to the other Saints of the net). It looks like PNI will be wonderful if I can transfer files to and from work without burning up gas, footwear, and 50 pin SCSI-2 connectors; I don't miss the fat!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Re: Do I need a driver for my SupraFax v.32bis modem for NeXT Faxing? References: <3cgg5d$1223@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 04:33:56 GMT Message-ID: <D0qFCM.4tq@news2.new-york.net> In article <3cgg5d$1223@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: > > As Mark Salyzyn noted, mgetty+sendfax also works for sending. I have not > tried it for receiving. Mark also included a file for integrating faxing > into the print panel. I could dig it up if your interested. > > - Steve I must have missed this... mgetty? It does appear that I will need to buy NXFax, though. This is a shame, as I don't really have $130 to spend on what I thought NeXTstep could do out of the box. Sigh. The other issue is that, even if I upgrade the user portion of my machine to 3.3, I still have 3.1 developer installed (and I do love the development environment!) that I'll have to upgrade to 3.2. Mucho dinero, yo pienso. Matt -- ====== Matthew Hocker, B.Eng [W]-cooled Volkswagen fanatic **** Canadian NeXT hocker@mordor.com GTI, Scirocco 16V, Jetta 16V * \/ * +American mail This posting is recyclable! ...Amiga forever... *\/\/* ========== Welcome "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
From: bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Info wanted on UNIX BBS software Date: 13 Dec 1994 00:58:54 -0600 Organization: Northern Illinois University Distribution: na Message-ID: <3cjgne$bfh@mp.cs.niu.edu> I'm looking for BBS software to run on a NeXT computer under NeXTSTEP 3.x. I am aware of a package called Waffle, the UNIX version of which is distributed as source, but I have thus far been unable to discover whether it can be made to function under NeXTSTEP. If anyone can provide information about BBS packages that either do already run under NeXTSTEP or can fairly easily be made to do so, please send the information directly to me at ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ one of the addresses below. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Systems Programming Computer Center Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Illinois 60115 ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett@netmgr.cso.niu.edu bennett@cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in * * controversy."--John Jay, First Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court * * in Georgia vs. Brailsford, 1794 * **********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: "Misconfigured client newsreader" in NewsGrazer. Why? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 04:41:05 GMT Message-ID: <D0qFoH.4x5@news2.new-york.net> Why does my "Organization:" field show "Misconfigured client newsreader"? I can post, I can receive, is this really misconfigured? Really, though, what do I have to do to set the Organization: field to something that might, uh, make it less obvious that I'm new to NeXTstep? Thanks. Matt -- ====== Matthew Hocker, B.Eng [W]-cooled Volkswagen fanatic **** Canadian NeXT hocker@mordor.com GTI, Scirocco 16V, Jetta 16V * \/ * +American mail This posting is recyclable! ...Amiga forever... *\/\/* ========== Welcome "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Faxing with a Class 1 modem in NS Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Dec13004254@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 05:42:54 GMT Hello, Is there any fax modem driver compatible with class 1 for NeXTSTEP 3.2??? If not, anybody has clues on how to write one. Thanks, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 19:51:20 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Message-ID: <941212195120.229AACUb.malc@white> References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <3c9qh6$ue6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3cd0qi$4vc@crchh78b.bnr.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Framemaker is also the most difficult and biggest pain-in-the-ass word > processor to use. I should know. I use it every day. (Well, 5 days a > week.) Do not get me wrong, it is very powerful, but usually when you > have a powerful program you also get a difficult program to use. > Well, I use it around 7 days a week! :-) The problem probably lies in calling it a *word* processor: it's not, it's a document processor, admirably suited to producing long documents, usually of a technical nature... cf. for example "Visual representations of speech signals", Cooke, Beet & Crawford (eds), John Wiley & Sons, 1993 400pp, which I typeset using FrameMaker and EquationBuilder. There's no way I could have done that using a "word processor". It so happens that I tend to use Frame for letters etc. as well (though for freestyle stuff I've switched to PasteUp), but I use a restricted range of formats, and appreciate what Frame's strengths are. I'm happier with 3.2 now, which is a lot faster (and runs on Intel -- and HP). Have fun, mmalc.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: 13 Dec 1994 10:25:46 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: inet Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <kivDwem00WBMQAVKI8@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:55:54 -0500 >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: CWS>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 gnutar/gzip man CWS>pages, sources by Michael Pizolato@afs.com >>I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I >>can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume >>are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? CWS>These programs are available via anonymous ftp at prep.ai.mit.edu: CWS>pub/gnu/tar-1.11.2.tar.gz CWS>pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar CWS>Note that the FSF does not consider having man pages to be important; CWS>they often only provide "info" pages, which can be read through Info CWS>mode in emacs by copying the info page into /usr/local/info and by CWS>editing /usr/local/info/dir. CWS>-Chuck In the interests of being complete you can actually get the texinfo distribution which contains a command line curses based info client. You don't necessarily need emacs to see info pages. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbrown@solana.com Subject: GDB for 3.2 Intel (compiling problem) Distribution: fj Message-ID: <geetha.94Dec1344531@ganesha> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 04:45:31 GMT Hi, Has anyone out there successfully complied GDB, the NeXT distribution, on 3.2 Intel. My distribution is missing key header files. Thanks. bill brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Message-ID: <D0pr8B.37o@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <D0oG69.103@pages.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 19:52:58 GMT In article <D0oG69.103@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) writes: > In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. > Zhao) writes: > > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? > > > > Nope, it's quite possible to have WYSIWYG HTML editors. :-))) ..bruce.. And now I can talk about it. Pages 1.7, due out next month, will support WYSIWYG creation of HTML documents (with styled headlines and tables, no less). The press release should be sent to c.s.n.announce soon (for once, the engineers are ahead of the marketers), but you can ask questions here or come see for yourself: our Web server (http://www.pages.com) consists entirely of pages created using Pages and discusses our HTML technology (as well as Pages technology in general) at length. ..bruce.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | The most distant goal is attainable to him who Pages Software Inc | hopes wisely. bwebster@pages.com | -- Lope de Vega ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: rtf-conversion with fixrtf3.1 Date: 13 Dec 1994 15:17:19 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3ckdtv$hrc@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, I am trying to use a program, called fixrtf3.1, to convert a .rtf-file from MSDOS-WordPerfect into a NeXT-.r tf-file. The program fixrtf3.1 from Nik A Gervae is "shipped" with two filters that convert rtf-files from Mac to NeXT and vice versa. The filters for converting from other platforms are missing. Now i am looking for the missing filters for Dos->NeXT-conversion or for any other program that could do that converting-job. Because Nik A Gervae mail adress Nik_Gervae@ub.cc.umich.edu that came with the source-file has changed, i cannot adress him directly and so i put my question to the list. Any suggestio ns are wellcome... Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz) 55101 Mainz, Germany (email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de) or any other program that could do that converting-job. Because Nik A Gervae mail adress Nik_Gervae@ub.cc.umich.edu that came with the source-file has changed, i cannot adress him directly and so i put my question to the list. Any suggestio
From: msiegler+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew A Siegler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ANSI term emulator Date: 13 Dec 1994 14:40:06 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Message-ID: <3ckbo6$klp@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Is there a shareware terimanl emulator that will allow me to use IBM-style BBS. I am mostly looking for emulation of the ANSI control commands and or color. Much Thanks -- >>---- the faster you run -----------------> msiegler@cs.cmu.edu <----------------- the longer it takes ----<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Message-ID: <D0r7pB.LLC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University References: <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 14:46:22 GMT In article <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: | |I was told that OmniWeb should automatically decompress files that end in |Z when downloading (e.g. foo.ps.Z should be decompressed and loaded into |the postscript previewer). However, when I download a compressed postscipt |file from the high energy physics bulletin board at Los Alamos |(http://xxx.lanl.gov), omniweb appends ".ps" onto the file name (which |becomes something like foo.ps.Z.ps) and then tries to load that into the |previewer, giving an error of course. Has anyone else seen this problem? This is a known bug in OmniWeb -- I reported it to OmniGroup. they replied that it has been fixed internally, but I'm still waiting for the update to appear. (Hint, hint, OmniGroup). In the meantime, locate the file in your download directory, snip off the appended .ps, and double-click to open it externally (assuming you use Opener). -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca York University Voice: 416 736 5118 4700 Keele Street Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: rashidi@wmich.edu (Reza Rashidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: LaTeX2e installation error Date: 13 Dec 1994 16:39:43 GMT Organization: Western Michigan University Message-ID: <3ckiof$mfn@gumby.cc.wmich.edu> I get the following error while trying to run latex on ltxcheck.tex after installing LaTeX2e: article.cls in current directory! ! This file should not be run in a `system directory'. \@tempa ...uld not be run in a `system directory'} l.145 ...ld not be run in a `system directory'}}{} The file article.cls is in /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs yet the error message is in response to running latex on ltxcheck.tex which is in a different directory. In spite of this error, LaTeX2e seems to work on other files. Any information about what is going on here is appreciated. -- Reza Rashidi rashidi@wmich.edu
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend author email Date: 13 Dec 1994 12:44:29 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3ckmht$g4u@panix.com> References: <3cip42$cch@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In comp.sys.next.software you write: >The Fiend I have (1.2) has a suggestion menu item that brings up >a compose window with his email address. Except that email >address (fiend@homer.uu.panix.com) just bounces back after a few >days. Really? This is news to me. I'm still getting plenty of mail to sent to that address.... >Does anyone have a better email address for him? You can try: dcl@panix.com or dcl@homer.uu.panix.com, but you should talk with your site admin to see if there's a problem on your end. There's only one other site I know of that has problems reaching me. Otherwise, I get messages from all over, without apparent incident. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: ruediger.popp@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Date: 13 Dec 1994 09:52:21 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <3cjqsl$dr6@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: > > Are there any scanners that are supported by whatever Next software that > will work this way? We use a HP ScanJet IIcx with the ScanOmatic software on white hardware. For more info on ScanOmatic you can e-mail to: info@interpc.de A demo is available on: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de --- ------------------------------------------------------- Ruediger Popp Engler-Bunte-Institut der Universitaet Karlsruhe (TH) Bereich Chemie und Technik von Gas, Erdoel und Kohle E-MAIL: ruediger.popp@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail) -------------------------------------------------------
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newsgrazer Pro Date: 13 Dec 1994 18:32:38 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3ckpc6$qg9@news.mic.ucla.edu> Does anyone know if Jayson Adams is still working on NG-Pro? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric R Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF 1.0 IB doesn't display its Info panel Date: 13 Dec 1994 20:09:39 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3ckv23$qta@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed EOF 1.0 on NSFIP 3.2 and the Info panel for IB doesn't show up. I can live without an Info panel, but are there other parts of the EOF product which folks are having unexpected problems with? Thanks in advance. P.S. So how *do* I fix that Info panel :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dbarbeau@schoolnet (Den Barbeau) Subject: software developers Message-ID: <D0rMpD.Mn0@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 20:10:25 GMT Hello, Would anybody know the names and addresses of software development companies in the Ottawa area? I am seeking to establish a focus group of representatives from local companies to help determine the resource needs of software developers. Thank you, Denis Barbeau Tel: 788-2600, ext. 8288 dbarbeau@schoolnet.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Trouble with Bookmarks in OmniWeb References: <1994Dec11.201341.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 14:30:34 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec13.143034.6025@proximus.north.de> In article <1994Dec11.201341.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>, <fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> wrote: [...] > type in the new correct path, but when we subsequently click to > access the bookmarks, the application dies (this is repeatable). > > So how _does_ one go about telling OmniWeb that the > Bookmarks.html is in a new location??? Do I really have to > reinstall the app? :-( Nope, I guess you just have to change the defaults base: gemoe@proximus 52> dread -o OmniWeb | grep -i bookmark OmniWeb StartingPages "OmniWeb:/Start.html file:/usr1/gemoe/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html" OmniWeb BookmarkPageNumber 1 So I suggest writing a short shell script that changes the default for all moved users. Should work, Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Any comments on CheckSum? Date: 13 Dec 1994 13:50:05 -0700 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <3cl1dt$lhk@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Has anyone tried out CheckSum? I've got the demo, but often there are things about the product that you don't notice until you've actually used it for a while. Any comments? Thanks, Grettir
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Cryptorbundle with PGP 2.6.2 Date: 13 Dec 1994 21:46:50 GMT Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cl4oa$lpf@mack.rt66.com> Keywords: cryptorbundle, pgp For those of you who may have attempted to use pgp 2.6.2 with Cryptorbundle, you have discovered it doesn't work out of the box. A peculiar error message about Bad File Numbers resulted from any attempt at encryption. I've tracked the problem down to a flag, "+legal_kludge", used by cryptorbundle when calling pgp to perform the encryption. This was a valid flag in pgp 2.6 but is no longer supported in pgp 2.6.2. The quick fix is to insert the "LEGAL_KLUDGE" entry back into the enum and intrinsics[] arrays in pgp's config.c source file, just as they were in pgp 2.6. Once this is done, pgp 2.6.2 works just fine with cryptorbundle, and after Christmas you too can use the 2048 bit key option! If more detail is required, give me a holler. - HRC - ,,, (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~(_)~~OOo~~~ Howard Cole | Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@zia.nrcabq.com 2201 Buena Vista SE | Suite 203 | "If we can't fix it - Albuquerque, NM 87106 | it just ain't broke!" Voice: (505) 843-7364 | Fax: (505) 243-2653 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Luis Acosta S. <lacosta@enlaces.ufro.cl> Subject: Questionnaire To Evaluate the Cost of Developing Multimedia Applications. Sender: usenet@halcon.dpi.udec.cl Message-ID: <1994Dec14.022117.29423@halcon.dpi.udec.cl> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 02:21:17 GMT Organization: Enlaces Project Questionnaire To Evaluate the Cost of Developing Multimedia Applications. The following questionnaire is part of a project which will identify the cost associated with development of multimedia computer applications and help in developing models and functional forms useful in estimating the effort and resources required to complete a project of this type in the future. The specific objective of this study is to collect information which will specify the effect of each parameter and its weight in the hypothesized cost function. To compensate you for your time and effort in filling out this questionnaire, the sponsors will send you a copy of the completed report for your use and comment. Of course, the sources of the information and names of others participants will be maintained in strictest secrecy . If you have any questions about the objective of the study or the actual questionnaire itself, please feel free to contact me at the following. Luis Acosta or Enrique Hinostroza Telephone/Fax : 56-45-250759 E-mail : lacosta@enlaces.ufro.cl Please use the following key when responding to questions in the survey , where H, M, L and DK mean Hight, Medium, Low and Don't Know respectively. Selection of N means the parameter or selection does not apply to your project. We also ask that you complete a separate questionnaire for each software project completed to date or each separate project currently underway. To aid in your responses to individual items, we propose the following definition for a screen : An interface which the product present to the user in any instant in time which contains objects such as icons , drawing or schematics or text.If the interface is changed , we are said to be in another screen. I. _ Organizational Aspect. -------------------------- Please answer the following questions with respect to the type and size of your organization. 0._Please specify the exact name of the company or institution in which you work. ( ) 1._ Specify the number of persons who make up your development team by type. -Engineers ( ) -Designers ( ) -Consultants ( ) -Others (Please specify) 2._ Development time estimated for project definition and initial design requirements. -Engineering Months ( ) -Designers Months ( ) -Consultanting or Expert Months ( ) -Others Months (Please specify). ( ) 3._Total development time to complete the project. -Engineering Months ( ) -Designers Months ( ) -Consultanting or Expert Months ( ) -Others Months (Please specify) ( ) 4._ Does your company or institution currently use a specific method or model for estimating the cost of completion for a project before initiation of work? Please specify.............................. II.Human Resources Aspect ----------------------------- Please use the rating scale below with respect to the human resources capabilities of your organization.(H,M,L,N,DK) 1._ The work experience of my interdisciplinary group as a whole.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 2._ The work experience of Software Engineers. (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Software Engineers with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Software Engineers in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 3._ The work experience of Graphics Designers. (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Graphics Designers with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Graphics Designers in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 4._ The work experience of Consultants or others Experts . (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) - The knowledge of Consultants or others Experts with respect to the specific tools used in this project .(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) _ Previus experience of Consultants or Experts in the development of Software in interdisciplinary teams.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) III._ Tecnology Aspect ------------------------ Please answer the following questions dealing with the hardware and software components of this project. ____Hardware Resources 1._ The development platform for this application is : DOS ( ) Windows ( ) Macintosh ( ) Unix ( ) Other (Please specify). ( ) 2._ Description of computer hardware used in the development of project. Brand or Type of ! Quantity ! RAM ! HHDD ! Speed Computer Hadware a._ b._ c._ 3._ Description of graphics devices used in the development of project.. Please include scanners, printers and other input and output devices. Brand and/or Type of device ! Resolution( dpi ) a._ b._ c._ ____Software Resources 4._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this proyect by your Software Engineers a._ b._ 5._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this proyect by your Graphics Designers a._ b._ 6._Please list all relevant software or others applications used in the development of this project by your Consultants or others Experts a._ b._ IV. Software Aspect ---------------------- Please answer the following questions dealing with the eventual finished product of your development efforts. 1._ Name of the project or the eventual finished product . 2._The area of applications for this product corresponds to following areas (check all that aplly) - Content sofware ( ). (multimedia encyclopedias,art collections ,etc.) - Promotional software ( ). (multimedia catalogs , advertising,etc) - General purpose software ( ). (desing, etc) - Simulations software ( ). (process simulation) - Other (Please specify). ( ). 3._ Please rate your applications with respect to the following criteria (H,M,L,N,DK) -Complexity of design from a technical standpoint (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Apparent complexity of design for eventual customer (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Size of data base used in the system (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Quality of information as judged by an expert in the field of application (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). -Ease of access to the information on the part of the user-user frendliness.(H,M,L,N,DK) ( ). 4 ._ Number of screens in the application. 5._ Average number of links between one screen and any other: Navigation by buttons ( ). Navigation by hypertext ( ). Navigation by clicking on a figure or hypermedia ( ). 6._ Average number of buttons or "clickable" elements per screen. 7._ Quantity and Quality of multimedia functions avaliable, by type: Media ! Quantity ! Quality (H,M,L,N,DK) -Sound : -Video : -Drawings, digital images and illustrations : 8._ Quantity of text fields in the screen where High would be more than 50 Medium would be between 30 and 50 Low would be less than 30 (H,M,L,N,DK) ( ) 9._ Quantity of additional functions avaliable, by type: Dictionary ( ) Conceptual map ( ) Interactive menus ( ) Othes (please specify) ( ) V._ If you have additional comment, adder here................. VI._ Place here your personals details for contact you : Name ( ). Position ( ). e-mail ( ). Adress ( ). City ( ). Postcode ( ). Telephone ( ). Fax ( ). Thank you for to answer this questionnaire.! Send the questionnaire at : e-mail : lacosta@lautaro.enlaces.ufro.cl. Luis Acosta Enrique Hinostroza Phone/fax :56-45-250759. Enlaces project Universidad de la Frontera .
From: val@ruby.ora.com (Valerie Quercia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Contribute to Internet Tools book Date: 13 Dec 1994 17:12:30 -0500 Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cl68e$6i7@ruby.ora.com> Be a Contributor to "Internet User Tools" -- The Latest Book from O'Reilly & Associates If you've seen our books UNIX Power Tools and X User Tools, you know that we're developing a series of books consisting of tips, tricks and pointers to great freeware programs. We're now working on a follow-on book called Internet User Tools. Like its predecessors, Internet User Tools can be thought of as "hypertext in print" with short articles extensively cross-referenced to each other replacing the normal narrative or tutorial flow of a technical book. We're planning a cross-platform book focusing on Windows, Mac and UNIX (because even Mac and Windows users often have UNIX shell accounts as part of their Internet access). Each book is accompanied by a CD-ROM containing binaries for the various tools referenced in the book. We're also considering a second volume containing reference material (e.g. Man pages) for the programs contained on the disk. We're looking for submissions from the net community in numerous categories: 1. Articles for possible inclusion in the book. An article can be submitted in the form of a mail message (with similar constraints on length), and can describe something clever or useful you learned about: * your mail program * standard Internet tools such as telnet, ftp, or gopher * World Wide Web tools and techniques * neat freeware applications * neat Internet sites or information services * interoperability between information services like Compuserve, AOL, Prodigy and the Internet. Absolutely anything that would make an Internet user sit up and take notice is worth submitting. Each article should describe the subject in user terms. You don't need to worry about explaining all the background--though if there are relevant, related topics, you can feel free to submit a series of articles that cross-reference each other. If you need some samples of existing articles, and you haven't seen the earlier books, send mail to val@ora.com, and you'll receive some samples of articles that have already been written. 2. Shell, perl, tcl, expect or other scripts to automate, simplify or enable Internet-related applications. These might range from tools to automate ftp downloads to tools for consolidating logging server statistics. 3. Freeware programs that add to the Internet user's toolbox. Tools for system administrators will also be considered (though they will most likely be forwarded to the editors of the related book, System Administration tools). Tools can be for UNIX, Windows, DOS, or Macintosh platforms. If you're a big OS/2 Warp fan, you might persuade us to include that platform as well. We'll be looking to see whether tools are: * useful: does the tool really do something that's valuable? Does it do something that would be difficult to do otherwise? * easy to use: is it easy to understand what the tool does and how to use it? * well-documented: do you have a "man page" that describes what the tool does, including all the options, and examples? Submitting a tool implicitly gives ORA the right to redistribute it in binary and source form as "free software." Don't send us anything for which this will be a problem. (For example, we can't consider your entry if your employer insists that it owns any software you develop.) Our redistribution will be in keeping with the GNU General Public License, so copylefted software is welcome. So what happens if you send us something and we like it? 1. We'll let you know pretty quickly if what you sent is on the right track, if it needs further revision, or overlaps something we've already got. 2. If we like it a lot, we'll breathe down your neck to get you to write more for us :-) This is a pretty good chance to explore what it takes to be a published author without a major investment of time and energy. If you write one good article, perhaps you can write more. And if you can do that, we'll explore if you can write other things for us, act as a technical reviewer for our books, or otherwise become more involved in what we do. 3. If we include your work in the book/CD-ROM, you'll get a free copy of the book (about a $50 value) and a small fee to boot. Here's how the fees are determined: We set aside $40,000 as a royalty advance for the book. When the book is finished, this amount will be pro-rated among all of the people whose submissions were accepted, on the basis of the word count of the material they submitted. For UNIX Power Tools, with 896 articles, this worked out to about $45 on average per article. For those who submit only one or two articles (equivalent to writing one or two thoughtful mail messages in effort), that's the end of the story. For anyone who gets significantly involved in the project and contributes more than 5% of the total book, though, this amount is treated as a royalty advance, and you will get a pro-rata share of the royalties on the book, again in proportion to the amount you contributed. Of course, the real reason for doing this isn't the money (because with so many authors, there's not that much to go around) but to help out your fellow Internet users with what you've learned. That you get to try out your hand at writing and see your name in print is a nice plus. What about the software writers? Well, it's hard to figure out a pro-rata ratio of anything on software, since size isn't the measure of value, and a lot of the software in question is floating around free on the net anyway. However, if your software appears in the book, you'll get ten free copies of the book (so you can give them away to your friends). Plus, if you write up your software, you'll get the same benefits as the other authors of the book. In addition, if you've created something we judge to be the "best tool" of the bunch, we'll treat you to a shopping spree from the catalog of O'Reilly & Associates publications. Send submissions (and questions, if necessary) by January 13 to tool-hunt@ora.com. That date may get extended, but for now, we're shooting to have a complete first draft of the book by the end of January. P.S. Pass this message along to your friends or send us mail to suggest knowledgeable people we should be in touch with about the book. -- Valerie Quercia : val@ora.com : UUCP: uunet!ora.com!val O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. : 90 Sherman Street : Cambridge, MA 02140 617-354-5800 : (FAX) 617-661-1116
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <D0rt76.DK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <3c93bu$1co@news.bu.edu> <3ca7ks$mru@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 22:30:42 GMT I've found that OpenWrite is the best all around word processor for NEXTSTEP and with a $149 price tag, (plus a 30% educational discount) you really can't go wrong. Perhaps the best part of this program is its ability to import virtually all of the popular file formats (including WordPerfect 6.0 and Mircrosoft Word for Windows 6.0) with little hassle. Although I have had a little problem with formatting and fonts when importing a Word 6.0 file, it has been nothing that a couple of clicks won't fix and it beats re-typing the documents. The two things I would like to see added are tables and double-spaced text. As far as I have been able to tell there is no way to have the text be printed double-spaced unless you manually specify a line spacing of a certain amount points, which is useless if you change point size. All-in-all, I think OpenWrite is great. -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* |Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok| |Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred| *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Date: 14 Dec 1994 01:34:32 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3cli38$1f2t@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <D0r7pB.LLC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> In article <D0r7pB.LLC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: ->In article <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu ->(Donald N. Petcher) writes: ->| ->|I was told that OmniWeb should automatically decompress files that end in ->|Z when downloading (e.g. foo.ps.Z should be decompressed and loaded into ->|the postscript previewer). However, when I download a compressed postscipt ->|file from the high energy physics bulletin board at Los Alamos ->|(http://xxx.lanl.gov), omniweb appends ".ps" onto the file name (which ->|becomes something like foo.ps.Z.ps) and then tries to load that into the ->|previewer, giving an error of course. Has anyone else seen this problem? -> ->This is a known bug in OmniWeb -- I reported it to OmniGroup. they replied ->that it has been fixed internally, but I'm still waiting for the update to ->appear. (Hint, hint, OmniGroup). -> ->In the meantime, locate the file in your download directory, snip off the ->appended .ps, and double-click to open it externally (assuming you use ->Opener). -> Gee, everytime I get a file via OmniWeb, it gets shot over to Opener as soon as the transfer's complete. I have no idea how this is happening, or what I did to make OmniWeb do this, or even if it's supposed to do this... :) Eugene -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: PDO 2.0 - Which base classes? Message-ID: <D0ruAK.1sx@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 22:54:19 GMT Which of the base/root classes are present in PDO for 2.0? We have a set of simple server applications that are written in Objective-C, don't use any of the AppKit, and just use things like the root Object class. We don't actually use DO in them, and don't want/need to use the "PDO" parts of the package. Would I be right in thinking that the PDO 2.0 package will allow us to compile and build a base SPARC (or whatever) binary that will run these simple programs, albeit written in Objective-C ? This route looks cleaner/quicker than messing about building gcc and the associate runtimes on the native hosts. Make it NeXTs problem. Any experiences welcome. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 14 Dec 1994 02:19:16 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3clkn4$ge0@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <941212195120.229AACUb.malc@white> In article <941212195120.229AACUb.malc@white> mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: > I'm happier with 3.2 now, which is a lot faster (and runs on Intel -- > and HP). Might you be albe to tell me what the difference between Frame 3.0.1 and Frame 3.2 are? The upgrade price is rather hefty and I'm wondering what the improvements are for all that money. -- Todd Takken takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Postscript Software RIP Date: 14 Dec 1994 01:06:12 GMT Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Message-ID: <3clge4$c3j@hk.super.net> References: <garD0oKvn.8Ls@netcom.com> Adam Capell (gar@netcom.com) wrote: : Can anyone tell me if there is a Software-based postscript RIP available : for NEXTSTEP, commercial or otherwise? Preview.app would be a good substitutor...but we need a real one :-) Tailor.app would almost make it, and in many way, better than a s/w RIP. : Also, if you'll excuse me for being ignorant and not up-to-date on : Happening in this arena, does anyone know if NEXTSTEP has made any kind : of headway into the pre-press industry, or did everyone abandon the whole : idea? We use it to fix those files who have output problems, or to change something quick on customer's request. : A.J. Capell : gar@netcom.com --- Edwin Tam AdTech Graphics Production Lab, Hong Kong Tel: 590-9389 Fax: 516-5569 edwintam@fusion.hk.super.net edwintam@adtech.attmail.com *Either* addresses okay. NeXTMail Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <Dec14.051230.19628@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 05:12:30 GMT References: <SPETERS.94Dec12124152@samsun.us.oracle.com> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <SPETERS.94Dec12124152@samsun.us.oracle.com> speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) writes: > In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > > I've reached the point where I need to buy a word processor for > > NeXTSTEP. But I would like some input from those who have used the > > products. As far as I can tell, the best (and maybe only) options > > are: > [...] > > OpenWrite > > [...] > > And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? > > Well, I've played around with the OpenWrite demo for a little while, > and overall it seems extremely functional -- it's got pretty much > everything I want in a word processor, so I could be pretty happy with > it. > > Unfortunately, the text update/display seems kind of sluggish on my > old slab. They provide a mode using monospaced fonts, allowing you to > edit lots and lots of text without dealing with fancy formatting, and > that should be a lot faster (I haven't tried it -- just noticed it > while wandering through features), but it would be nice if they could > speed up their text object. > That was basically my assessment too (on a 25MHz MonoStation, 20Mb memory). The features are great, but the text input performance was a bit slower than I would prefer. Note, however, that this was an earlier demo than the current one, and in terms of features, it was quite good. I guess the point here is to check out the performance for yourself before buying. One additional thing that impressed me is the responsiveness of the vendor (Xanthus), eventhough I was just trying out the demo! Definitely a plus in that column. -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org (Josef Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel Nextstep <--> Logitech Trackball Date: 12 Dec 1994 21:48:02 +0100 Organization: PPCGer mail and news system (Germersheim, Germany) Message-ID: <3cicu2$41f@ppcger.ppc.sub.org> References: <TAPPD.61.000B308D@sam.neosoft.com> In <TAPPD.61.000B308D@sam.neosoft.com> TAPPD@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) writes: >We have someone who desperately wants to employ the above combination. Next >says it can be done by writing a loadable device driver. I _have_ a logitech trackball working on my white next. >I was hoping someone might already know of such a beast roosting on an FTP >site... My logitech-trackball works with the driver delivered on the Nextstep CD-ROM. -- Josef Wolf -- sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org Germersheim, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: "Misconfigured client newsreader" in NewsGrazer. Why? References: <D0qFoH.4x5@news2.new-york.net> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 22:39:11 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec13.223911.7337@proximus.north.de> In article <D0qFoH.4x5@news2.new-york.net>, Matthew Hocker <hocker@ritz.mordor.com> wrote: > >Why does my "Organization:" field show "Misconfigured client newsreader"? > >I can post, I can receive, is this really misconfigured? Really, though, what >do I have to do to set the Organization: field to something that might, uh, >make it less obvious that I'm new to NeXTstep? :-) Normally in /usr/lib/news/ you'll find a file called organization. But the location depends on the person who configured your news system and I'm not sure if NewsGrazer uses this file at all. (Although it should...) If this file is, which I guess, not writeable by you, then you'll have to export a variable to your environment, ORGANIZATION. [ In sh: ORGANIZATION="my orga"; export ORGANIZATION in csh: setenv ORGANIZATION "my orga" ] But this only works for complix readers... So I guess there better is a Preferences panel in Newsgrazer. But go try the organization file in /usr/lib/news first... ;-) Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EXISTS?: High quality SoundKit driver for SB-16. Date: 13 Dec 1994 23:52:53 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <3cm88l$rb1@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu> The subject line says it all. I've heard that talus 'may' have a good soundkit driver for the SoundBlaster16. How can I find out for shure? Nobody answered the e-mail I sent to ( IForget )@talus.com. Thanx jCandlish
From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT software FAQ Date: 14 Dec 1994 09:24:34 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cmdki$aau@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3c8ueb$l1m@panix2.panix.com> <3ca7c2$4ho@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: : Russell Silverman (rsilver@panix.com) wrote: : : I keep seeing the same questions in this space. I believe wee : : need a weekly posted FAQ ? Maybe, it exists, anybody know ? : As far as I know there hasn't been a FAQ posted in these newsgroups as : long as I've been reading them. (Over a year now...) Looking at the : comp.sys.next.* hierarchy in the FAQ archives on rtfm.mit.edu reveals the : FAQ from comp.object and the UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) FAQ. : That's it. Nothing NeXTSTEP specific. So, I think it's safe to say that : the NeXT FAQs are dead. : I recently posted a message asking for advice on NeXTSTEP word processors. : I was planning on posting a summary once I had compiled the results. I'd : be more than willing to use that as a starting point for a software FAQ. : Anyone interested? Puh, I'm just working on a FAQ in HTML-Format. I'll try to get cron job running which will do 2-4 weekly posting to the newsgroups. I've started using some old FAQ's and will include some new stuff I encountered in the newsgroups. If _anybody_ likes to contribute, PLEASE e-mail me! Actually I'm caught with the Intel Hardware Guide, and building up a new WWW service. EVERY contributions are _very_ welcome! The new WWW service is available at: http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/ and will soon feature (hopefully) full html access to the Munich ftp NeXT archive. There is also a link to the just mentioned old FAQ's. Best regards, Boerny. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Bernhard Scholz IRC: Boerny: #amiga, #next scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Amiga Developer (MAD) scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (if nothing works) Aminet admin, WWW admin Opinions are my own! (God said: E=mc^2 and --- there was light)
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 14 Dec 1994 04:34:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941214103403.229AACUF.malc@white> References: <3clkn4$ge0@nntp.Stanford.EDU> > Might you be albe to tell me what the difference between Frame 3.0.1 and > Frame 3.2 are? The upgrade price is rather hefty and I'm wondering what > the improvements are for all that money. > The main thing you'll be paying for is the ability to run on Intel and HP. There are a number of other niceties: you can now have dynamic scrolling through documents, drag-and-drop of images etc. works (I don't think it did before?), it's faster -- particularly on colour systems, a couple of bugs have apparently been ironed out. Other than that there's not much I've noticed in use. There may well be other improvements (and I'm sure there was a list posted a couple of months ago) but they weren't earth-shattering. So, is the upgrade worth it(*)? If you have to run on Intel or HP, well, yes -- you have no choice. If you're staying on black, hmmm: I suspect if you've lived with Frame this long, you'll probably survive. It's still an outstanding package. If you want to know more, please ask. Have fun, mmalc. (*) Note I haven't actually *upgraded*: I've bought a new copy to go with a new Intel system
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <1994Dec13.212955.16821@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. References: <1994Dec11.184407.6143@ccdd.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 21:29:55 GMT Chris Cuilla writes [smip] >I have no interest in any of the apps/companies mentioned. *snif* Chris, how _could_ you? Don't you _care_? *snaf* We love _you_. Please reconsider. *snuf* Michael P.S. Oh, you meant you don't _represent_ any of those apps or companies? Uh, never mind... ;-) ;-) ;-) -- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB! Use PGP (the "electronic envelope") before Congress says you can't!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: kurzepa@prufrock.Rockefeller.EDU (Pawel Kurzepa ) Subject: GCC Message-ID: <D0s2HM.C30@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Sender: notes@rockyd.rockefeller.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Rockefeller University Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 01:51:21 GMT Dear Sir, I have the following 2 questions, and, as a relative novice to the NeXT world, would appreciate any and all help: 1) I would like to know, what is the newest version of the compiled GCC package possible to install on NeXTSTEP 3.2, and also where can it be retrieved from? 2) I have compiled gnuplot3.5 on my system ( it appears to me that it is more efficient to use this for some programming applications instead of Gnuplot.app.) However, I have serious problems ( too many to list here ) compiling the gplotlib library. Has anybody done this? If so, could I please get some insights. Thank you for your help! Pawel Kurzepa kurzepa@theory.rockefeller.edu
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: help! Serial port problems Date: 13 Dec 1994 22:02:39 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3cl5lv$lj9@maple.enet.net> I have a server (turbo mono) that is having trouble with the serial ports. Port B recently had NXFax removed from it. There is now no DTR light on any modem not attached to it hence any modem attached to it will *not* answer unless tip or some other communications program is using it. Port A is used for uucp. It used to have a Telebit Trailblazer attached to it. We replaced this modem with a Microcom Deskporte Fast and/or a Telebit Worldblazer and neither will work! When one logs in, the system will not allow one to login (I have this trouble occasionally with a TurboCOlor using a Zyxel). If one gets past this stage, it just gives garbage. Question: Are any files corrrupted? gettytab, L.sys, L-devices? Would appreciate if you would e-mail replies/suggestions to terence@sfsc.com Thanks very much for any help you can offer
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb problems Date: 14 Dec 1994 08:54:51 GMT Organization: Internet Atlanta Message-ID: <3cmbsr$3r7@metro.atlanta.com> I am using OmniWeb 0.7.5.4 through a proxy. Whenever I attempt to display an image, I get an alert panel with the following msg: Fatal Error 501 Command not Implemented Can't convert from text/html to OmniWeb/inline-image OmniImageFilter is installed and if I perform a ps, the service appears to be running. I currently have NS 3.0 on black h/w. At this time, upgrading to 3.2 or 3.3 does not appear to be an option. anyone have any ideas on what to do to fix this? thanks in advance. -- Joe Vossen jkv@sware.com
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? Date: 14 Dec 1994 14:37:20 GMT Organization: University of Florida's College of Liberal Arts and Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cmvv0$snp@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> References: <3cl1dt$lhk@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Hello, In article <3cl1dt$lhk@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > Has anyone tried out CheckSum? I've got the demo, but often there are > things about the product that you don't notice until you've actually used > it for a while. > I use CheckSum for our personal checkbook. On the whole I like it better than using the Improv spreadsheet that I had before. There are some features that I would like to see in it and some that 'need' to be in it. I sent in a list of these to them, but didn't get a response one way or the other. They may have put some of these into the upgrade, but I haven't gotten it yet (six months late?). There are a _lot_ of comments that I have, but I'd rather address specific questions that you or other people have. Feel free to e-mail me and I'll answer in detail. -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Message-ID: <D0rLw1.3BL@pages.com> Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:52:49 GMT In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? > > ZZ The short answer is that to get WYSYWIG display, you need to know the element specifications of the audiences' browser. Since the specifications are different for each browser and are user settable, the author cannot be sure of how text will be displayed. Having said this, there are a number of leading browsers including NetScape, Mosaiac, etc, which have predefined looks which most people will probably choose not to modify. Moreover, some browsers have stylesheets which allow you to change the look to mimic the standard settings of other browsers. So you can have WYSIWYG for a particular browsers' default settings. <!-- WARNING! subtle Pages plug follows --> In the Pages HTML Design Model, we have chosen standard looks for the different element types so its really WYSIMLWOG -- What You See Is Most Likely What Others Get ;). We allow the user to export different element types as images in order to preserve as much of the original look as possible and allow the user to place items such as tables until the HTML 3.0 specification concerning tables has been solidified. The HTML 2.0 specification specifically does not address font family and size information. The current implementation specifies content not form except for a few exceptions such as <B> for bold and <I> for italic. Furthermore they strongly suggest content alternatives such as <STRONG> and <EM>. In the future, you will probably see stylesheet specifications which _suggest_ the authors original intention but allow anyone to view the contents :). Even when the stylesheet specification is finalized, you are bound to see variations in display. For example, the Mac version of Helvetica may be slightly different the Windows or the NeXT version. Therefore, you are going to get different word spacing and consequently different text reflow and therefore different layout. Of course, in order to get standardized reflow, the column specification will have to author settable. My guess is that eventually the HTML specification will have all these settings, but not in the near term. The beauty of the HTML content specification is that the user can choose different "looks" for his document without changing the contents. The look is specified idependent of the content. This is both the HTML model and the Pages model. ------------------------------------------- Greg Kostello Software Engineer greg@pages.com Pages Software Inc NeXT mail accepted (619) 492-9050x217 http://www.pages.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Message-ID: <D0rnru.3Cs@pages.com> Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <D0Irx8.IBJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 20:33:29 GMT In article <D0Irx8.IBJ@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > In article <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn) writes: > > [ ] > > > Pages by Pages > > Write-Up > > OpenWrite > > > >I'm concerned about the template-oriented nature of Pages. How many > >templates are included? Can I create new ones? Does it cut it as just a > >basic word processor or do I need a template for _everything_? > > > >Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I don't think > >that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the above do > >equations? Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? > > WriteUp is a really nice word processor. It does not do equations ( none > of the above can). But you can simply get Equation Builder which is a > first rate application. It works with WU. Pages is not a wp. There's > another DTP'ing program called PasteUp, and of course Frame which will > do equations. > > >And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? > > -- > Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) > philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu > [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] Actually, Pages is a word processor, thats the way we sell it and that's the way our users treat it. Its a common mistake though because of the powerful layout capabilities. ------------------------------------------- Greg Kostello Software Engineer greg@pages.com Pages Software Inc NeXT mail accepted (619) 492-9050x217 http://www.pages.com/
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 14 Dec 1994 09:53:28 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <3cmfao$68p@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <D0oG69.103@pages.com> <D0pr8B.37o@pages.com> : And now I can talk about it. Pages 1.7, due out next month, will support : WYSIWYG creation of HTML documents (with styled headlines and tables, no : less). The press release should be sent to c.s.n.announce soon (for once, : the engineers are ahead of the marketers), but you can ask questions here : or come see for yourself: our Web server (http://www.pages.com) consists : entirely of pages created using Pages and discusses our HTML technology : (as well as Pages technology in general) at length. ..bruce.. Bruce, you marketing specialist! You created interest to focus attention on the announcement. Are you sure you're an engineer? I'm excited to see this product. Will users of 1.5.1 get a free upgrade? If so, will any of the HTML-specific design models ship with it? -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only us could un-allocating all them resources it are consuming so easy. */
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? Date: 14 Dec 1994 18:36:19 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Dec14133619@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca> References: <3cl1dt$lhk@keflavik.wordperfect.com> In-reply-to: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com's message of 13 Dec 1994 13:50:05 -0700 I have been using CheckSum for 2.5 months to keep our personal finances straight. I am very satisfied with it. It has a few quirks, but nothing serious. I've sent in an enhancement request, but haven't heard back; however, they were very responsive getting product out to me initially. Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Date: 14 Dec 1994 21:23:43 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3cnnp0$8eq@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> <D0r7pB.LLC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> I noticed a similar bug where a .tiff file had .tif appended to it, preventing it from being opened by the right application. mark
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Date: 14 Dec 1994 20:26:24 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cnkdg$dak@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> In article <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: > > I was told that OmniWeb should automatically decompress files that end > in Z when downloading (e.g. foo.ps.Z should be decompressed and loaded > into the postscript previewer). However, when I download a compressed > postscipt file from the high energy physics bulletin board at Los > Alamos (http://xxx.lanl.gov), omniweb appends ".ps" onto the file name > (which becomes something like foo.ps.Z.ps) and then tries to load that > into the previewer, giving an error of course. Has anyone else seen > this problem? Is this a problem with OmniWeb, or a problem with the > way the bb is set up? > As others have said, this is an OmniWeb problem since it ignores the Content-Encoding and Content-Type lines. We have pointed out this deficiency since the very first release of OmniWeb and fixing it just shouldn't be difficult (hopefully what a previous poster said about it already being fixed is true). The e-print archives (no, we are not a bulletin board) create files on the fly and so they don't have standard file extensions that OmniWeb would like to depend on. Of course, Mosaic (which set the standard for a while) handled everything correctly. Now that the Mosaic people have gone off to develop NetScape which is taking over everything, they decided they weren't going to support Content-Encoding in their present release. Supposedly this is because it is hard to implement the decompression on Mac and Windows platforms. This seems completely unreasonable to us since it would force suppliers of large files (e.g. xxx.lanl.gov) to more than double their bandwidth usage because things would have to be served uncompressed. For the time being, we will refuse to serve to NetScape clients. It is a real shame that NeXTSTEP still doesn't have a Web browser that has the functionality that Mosaic had a year ago. I haven't seen SpiderWoman yet, so their is hope (although using EOF is a very big drawback). We are quite avid NeXTSTEP fans, but we find it difficult to recommend it to our colleagues because of the poor state of Web browsers (i.e. the functionality that is needed is precisely that which is missing). Cheers, Mark Doyle E-print Admin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pwm@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Subject: Browsing large files on CD-ROM, how to do it? Message-ID: <D0ruy9.G4K@csis.dit.csiro.au> Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology, Canberra, Australia Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 23:08:31 GMT I want to browse large text files (>20Mbytes) on a CD-ROM in a scrollable window that I can do text searches in, and extract sections by cutting and pasting into an editor window. Problem is if I use standard editors like Edit, vi, emacs they start by trying to read the whole file onto disk and fill up the disk. For now I'm managing by using the unix 'more' command to search to the start of a section of the file I want and display it in a scrollable window. I then cut and paste the bit I want into an editor window. Is there a CD-ROM browser that will do what I want? Alternatively is there a way to tell editors like Edit, vi, emacs not to read the whole (readonly) file into their buffers but page it in as required. Thanks, Peter (milne@csis.dit.csiro.au)
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? Date: 14 Dec 1994 23:50:05 GMT Organization: I'm not really all that organized. Message-ID: <3co0bd$3rc@bunyan.covenant.edu> References: <3cli38$1f2t@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <3cli38$1f2t@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: > In article <D0r7pB.LLC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> > friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > ->In article <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu > ->(Donald N. Petcher) writes: > ->| [explanation of problem that Omniweb appends .ps on .ps.Z file deleted] > -> > ->This is a known bug in OmniWeb -- I reported it to OmniGroup. they > replied [more deleted to satisfy NewsGrazer] > > Gee, everytime I get a file via OmniWeb, it gets shot over to > Opener as soon as the transfer's complete. > I have no idea how this is happening, or what I did to make > OmniWeb do this, or even if it's supposed to do this... Eugene's comment stimulated me to play around a little and I found a not so very elegant kludge, but at least it works. I put Opener.app in my execution path (it wasn't there before) and I added a line in the Opener.table as follows: Z.ps (mv $f $t.Z; /usr/ucb/uncompress $t.Z) But since NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize double extensions such as .Z.ps, this necessitated that I make Opener the default app for .ps files. Hence I had to add a line to the Opener.table to pass things on to Preview: ps (/NextApps/Previw $f) Well, it does work, but it is so ugly I would love to hear of better ideas if there are any. > :) > > Eugene > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) > Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little > Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother > University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Cheers, Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Message-ID: <D0tvEI.8DD@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> <3cftq4$e60@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 01:13:30 GMT Daniel Cha L'hommedieu (dclhomm@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote: : >3) Is Perl available for the NeXT? : Again, I have some version of perl from somewhere working... :[snip] : If you can't find either of these online, let me know and I'll upload them : to ftp.interpath.net:/tmp/dclhomm/ There are two separate perl pre-compiled packages on ftp.cs.orst.edu, that install using Installer.app These are both for perl4.036 --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IRC for NS? Date: 15 Dec 1994 03:08:19 GMT Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <3cobv3$ioq@net.auckland.ac.nz> References: <3ci1ts$7r1@errigle.gpl.net> In article <3ci1ts$7r1@errigle.gpl.net> gshaw@starbase1.gpl.com (George Shaw) writes: > Any one know of a PD app for IRC over INternet. One with a next front end > would be really nice. A binary for NS-Intel would be great.. > Thanks I managed after a bit of hacking to compile the unix version for my black next. No reason why it shouldn't compile for Intel. Unfortunately I don't think I documented all the changes I made, unless I find the original sources and diff them. Shout if you would like me to post/mail sources/changes. > George Shaw (Managing Director) -- Steve sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz NeXTmail welcome!
From: ryan@inc.net (Ryan K. Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC/Printer Sharing Date: 13 Dec 1994 18:32:20 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. 414-476-4266 Distribution: na Message-ID: <3ckpbk$seb@beta.inc.net> I have a postscript printer hooked up to an Intel box that I'd like to be able to both use from NS and from SoftPC 4.0. Is this possible? Has anyone figured out how to do it? Thanks for any help, Ryan Brooks ryan@inc.net
From: burrows@bcu.ubc.ca (Jeff Burrows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Location of compiled sz, rz or kermit Date: 15 Dec 1994 08:54:21 GMT Organization: BioSciences Computing Unit Message-ID: <3cp07t$qkb@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NeXT Station at school doesn't have cc or gcc on it, so I can't make these programs. Would appreciate the binaries or a site with them - thanks, Jeff.
From: todd@alembic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IRC for NS? Date: 15 Dec 94 00:47:13 Organization: Colorado Supernet Distribution: fj Message-ID: <todd.94Dec1504713@ticonderoga> References: <3ci1ts$7r1@errigle.gpl.net> <3cobv3$ioq@net.auckland.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Please post your IRC changes to the net as I think others may wish to see them, otherwise please E-mail me the changes you made (or a nice little NeXTMail bundle would be just fine...) Todd.
From: nigelc@drake.bt.co.uk(Nigel Champion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: 15 Dec 1994 13:11:16 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3cpf9k$4f2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> References: <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > >>I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I > >>can find them? I think you will find them in /usr/man/man/man1/ For some reason they are not link in! But do seem to remember something in the 3.2 Bug/Release notes about this problem. Nigel Champion --- _______________________________________________________________ ____ . _ . /# /_\_ |\_|/__/| | |/o\o\ / / \/ \ \ | \\_/_/ /__|O||O|__ \ / |_ | |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | | ||\_ ~| | | (____) | || | ||| \/ \/\___/\__/ // | |||_ / (_/ || \// | | || || | | ||\ ||_ \ \ //_/ \_| o| \______// /\___/ __ || __|| / ||||__ (____(____) (___)_) /***********\ Ren Stimpy ______________________________________________________________ Nigel Champion +44 473 647286 Email nigelc@drake.bt.co.uk
From: kc@ocelot.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble with Bookmarks in OmniWeb Date: 15 Dec 1994 05:50:21 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3cphit$4t2@ocelot.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Dec11.201341.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> In article <1994Dec11.201341.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>, <fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > So how _does_ one go about telling OmniWeb that the > Bookmarks.html is in a new location??? Do I really have to > reinstall the app? :-( Go into Preferences and switch to the "Startup" preferences. Drag the new location of your Bookmarks.html file from Workspace into the URL well in the bottom right-hand corner of the Preferences panel. This will add the new page to your MetaPage. Then, to make that page your bookmark page, select it in the list and click on "Bookmark Page"--the book icon will move from the old bookmark page to the new, indicating the change. (You'll probably want to remove the old bookmark page from the list by selecting it and clicking on "Remove".) Finally, click on "OK" to confirm your changes. > We tried to > type in the new correct path, but when we subsequently click to > access the bookmarks, the application dies (this is repeatable). Hopefully, this will solve your problem. Of course, it shouldn't have crashed on you anyway, and fixing crashers is our top development priority right now. If the crash happened in the latest release (0.7.5.4), please report the details (e.g., exactly what you did to type in the new path) to OmniWeb@omnigroup.com. > Thanks for any advice... You're welcome! I hope it works for you. > Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu -- Ken Case Omni Development, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler) Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? [NS app: Tracer] Message-ID: <1994Dec15.142752.275@Angst.COM> Sender: dylan@Angst.COM Organization: Angst Animation Post Production References: <D0pnIE.5C0@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:27:52 GMT In article <D0pnIE.5C0@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: > In article <1994Dec8.211925.2390@dagobah.fdn.fr>, > Yann Lechelle <yann@dagobah.fdn.org> wrote: > >If you guys can't find 'Tracer' on any ftp site, let me know and I'll > >send you the Motorola binary (it was probably compiled under 2.1... so > >forget about HPPA & Intel ! at least as far as I'm concerned ;-) > > Actually, I suppose I *could* recompile for Intel, but since only one > person has registered it, it's probably not worth it. :-) > That must be me! --Dylan -- ________________________________ Dylan Kohler dylan@angst.com
From: burrows@bcu.ubc.ca (Jeff Burrows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Location of compiled sz, rz or kermit Date: 15 Dec 1994 18:34:22 GMT Organization: BioSciences Computing Unit Message-ID: <3cq27e$3h@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3cp07t$qkb@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Sorry to waste the group's time; here is where I found rz/sz: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/comm -Jeff
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CoolScan Date: 15 Dec 1994 19:05:45 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cq429$ol1@news.cerf.net> Who sells CoolScan? murshid@unit.edu
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Agfa scanner software support Date: 15 Dec 1994 19:08:43 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cq47r$om6@news.cerf.net> Does any NeXTSTeP software support Agfa scanners? murshid@unit.edu
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUBMISSION: LazyView BackSpace module Date: 15 Dec 1994 14:20:26 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <3cpjba$7gg@elna.ethz.ch> Summary: Simple screensaver module for BackSpace uploaded Keywords: BackSpace, screensaver LazyView is a very simple, but ideal screensaver. An excerpt from the README: Why is it ideal? First of all, let me mention that LazyView is at least ideal for me, it might be completely useless for you. Its features are: - It doesn't move lots of lines, icons, images or pixels of any other kind over the screen, which meens it keeps its hands off the CPU for most of the time. - Nevertheless it displays something useful on a nearly completely blank screen. This is ideal for the monitor (a screensaver should not turn a monitor completely black as far as I know). - The thing I personally like the most: LazyView displays the current date and time in large friendly letters on the screen, so everytime I enter my room I know exactly what time it is (this means in most cases: too late). The time's position is changed from time to time to prevent burn-ins. It's available from: ftp://ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/ next/Tools/screen/backspace/LazyView.NIH.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submissions/LazyView.NIH.bs.tar.gz (this one will probably move to a better place in the future). I hope this module is usefull for some of you... - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) PGP public key on request
From: bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: thin-net problem Date: 15 Dec 1994 20:05:04 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cq7hh$25h@news.bu.edu> Hi, I'm having some trouble connecting my NeXT up to the network with a 10-base-T ethernet cable. When I use this thick cable, the network is unreachable. However, if I use an adaptor box that converts the 10-base-T into thin, I have no problem. Does anyone know what's going on here? At one time I thought this might be a hardware problem, but I've connected another NeXT up in my office and the same thing happens. I know that one of the machines was at one time configured using thin ethernet cable, and the other one was very likely connected this way at one time. Does the NeXT remember how it was previously connected? It seems very unlikely that I have a hardware problem (NeXT or ethernet), so it seems that I should be looking for a software problem. Any info would be greatly appreciated. regards, bob singleton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fairfield@sldb5.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Summary: Trouble with Bookmarks in OmniWeb Message-ID: <1994Dec15.141231.1@sldb5.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:12:31 GMT Last week I posted a problem with OmniWeb not being able to find the user's Bookmark.html file after the path to the user's home directory had been changed, à la: > /Net/host/grp1/joeuser --> /Net/host/grp2/joeuser > ^ ^ > After the change, OmniWeb _still_ tries to open: > > /Net/host/grp1/joeuser/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html > ^^^^ > instead of > > /Net/host/grp2/joeuser/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html Being a novice to NeXTStep, I was unaware of the common use of dread and dwrite by applications to store and retrieve application- specific parameters. It's pretty neat, really. :-) But I didn't know about it. Thank goodness, some of _you_ did! Thanks to: Greg Titus <greg.titus@mccaw.com>, Dave Kloba <dave@itserver.senco.com>, and Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> who all pointed out that I could: dread -o OmniWeb which outputs, among other things, the line containing the path to the Bookmark.html file (OmniWeb StartingPages). Since I didn't want to make a typo inputing a long line, I redirected the output of dread into a file, edited the file to change the 2 characters required in the path, and then redirected the file as input to dwrite: dread -o OmniWeb > omni.defaults <edited omni.defaults> dwrite < omni.defaults It was that simple, and worked like a charm. :-) Thanks guys! -Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: CoolScan Message-ID: <D0vJ0q.KtJ@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3cq429$ol1@news.cerf.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:41:14 GMT Murshid (murshid@unit.edu) wrote: : Who sells CoolScan? : murshid@unit.edu The software is called HotScan, and can be had from Night Owl Software, (814)763-1151 Coolscan is the film scanner, and you can get bundles of the hardware and software from Digital Direct. 1-800-993-4485. Be careful of Digital Direct; some of their sales people don't think that they still sell the bundle, although others will sell it to you. If they say they don't sell it, persevere, and ask for a higher-up sales puke. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: dorothy@clxprint.com (Dorothy Kimmel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: error -4100 when printing from PressWise Date: 15 Dec 1994 23:26:28 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cqjb4$nu0@nntp.crl.com> Software & hardware background: Quadra 950, 24 megs of ram, i gig of storage, system 7.1. Printing to Agfa SelectSet 5000, Star 400 RIP, ehternet I get this error message when printing from PressWise, "Error -4100, laserwriter driver connection was closed unexpectedly. The P.W. print status box message read, "Error: ethernet input processor detects RIP reset @ byte. Not enough memory to print the job." I have had no success printing from P.W. ever since I started using the Adobe Prepress Utility (APX.102) when saving Quark documents to postscript. The progress bar in the P.W. print status box almost gets to the very end when the error message appears. It doesn't matter what size the document (how much memory) is, I get the message regardless.) The doc. will print to the laserwriter. I tried dumping P.W. preferences but that made no difference. Any ideas? dorothy@clxgraph.com
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Windows NT + NEXTSTEP Dual Boot ? Date: 16 Dec 1994 00:42:21 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <3cqnpd$kke@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <D0uutK.8x0@xexos.com> Mark Chamberlain (mark@xexos.com) wrote: : We need to setup machines with NEXTSTEP + NT dual-boot partitions. : Anybody made it work? : Triple-boot along with DOS would be even better. I have NT, NS, QNX all using the NS multiboot program. Works great! -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? Date: 15 Dec 1994 21:44:35 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3cqdc3$n68@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CRATH.94Dec14133619@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca> I tried to export my MS Money file through a Quicken intermediary file into CheckSum. However, I inevitably ended up with program crashes at random points, so it was not worth it to me. Then again, I last tried it 6-12 months ago. The program has promise, but it just wasn't there yet for me. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Browser Date: 15 Dec 1994 17:36:55 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3cpurn$m87@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> In article <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) writes: > On 6 Dec 1994 00:47:03 GMT, Ron Ohmer (RO) wrote: > > Why don't you like OmniWeb? I've had some problems too, but they are > all solved now. OmniWeb _was_ good. Now is getting slower and buggy :-( > Try SpiderWoman and you will fall in love! ;-)) -- Georg Tuparev EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524 Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PolarScan Date: 16 Dec 1994 01:23:32 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cqq6k$45m@news.cerf.net> Keywords: Agfa scanner support Who sells PolarScan? Does it have Agfa scanner support? murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Windows NT + NEXTSTEP Dual Boot ? Message-ID: <D0uutK.8x0@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:58:31 GMT We need to setup machines with NEXTSTEP + NT dual-boot partitions. Anybody made it work? Triple-boot along with DOS would be even better. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Vectorizing Images? [NS app: Tracer] Message-ID: <D0vEEs.5sx@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <D0pnIE.5C0@nvc.cc.ca.us> <1994Dec15.142752.275@angst.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 21:01:40 GMT In article <1994Dec15.142752.275@angst.com>, Dylan Kohler <dylan@Angst.COM> wrote: >In article <D0pnIE.5C0@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) >writes: >> Actually, I suppose I *could* recompile for Intel, but since only one >> person has registered it, it's probably not worth it. :-) >That must be me! Yep! Actually, I've even fixed some bugs since the version I put out on the net. I've never bothered to re-release it though, since you were the only one to register it. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: dorothy@clxprint.com (Dorothy Kimmel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: error -4100 when printing from PressWise Date: 16 Dec 1994 00:22:49 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cqmkp$1oh@nntp.crl.com> References: <3cqjb4$nu0@nntp.crl.com> ALERT Message "error -4100 when printing from PressWise" ended up in the wrong news group, it should be in comp.sys.mac.system. Sorry Dorothy dorothy@clxgraph.com
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Windows NT + NEXTSTEP Dual Boot ? Date: 16 Dec 1994 02:07:41 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3cqspd$rka@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <D0uutK.8x0@xexos.com> In article <D0uutK.8x0@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com writes: >We need to setup machines with NEXTSTEP + NT dual-boot partitions. >Anybody made it work? > >Triple-boot along with DOS would be even better. I have a triple boot NT/DOS/NEXTSTEP system. You can install DOS and NEXTSTEP in any order as long as you fdisk the disk correctly (three partitions). You install NT last. It replaces the DOS booter, so if you reinstall DOS you'll lose the ability to boot NT (so you have to recover from floppy #18 or something). So, your boot prompt is the familiar: (n) for NEXTSTEP (d) for DOS. However, when you hit (d) you switch off to the NT booter, which asks you 1) for NT, 2) for NT in VGA mode and 3) DOS. It wasn't a big deal. NT supported and recognized all the hardware in my system automatically (NCR SCSI, #9 GXE 64 Pro, Intel EtherExpress, SoundBlaster on a Pentium 90... oh, I think I had to specify the SoundBlaster myself). - darcy -- "Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em. This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 16 Dec 1994 03:12:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cr0im$c13@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3cntum$7u9@network.ucsd.edu> In article <3cntum$7u9@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: >Question: Can Equation Builder put equations "inline", i.e. TeX equivalent >of Yes and no. EquationBuilder generates EPS file that contains necessary information to align the equation to the baseline of text via one of EPS comments. Specifically a line like: %%Baseline: 1 10.193388 164.133011 0 This should be in the official EPS spec document that is relatively new. (I don't think it's in the Red Book 2-nd ed.) However, it is really up to the wordprocessor/DTP application to use this information. If the app ignores it, then it won't happen. So, it your favorite app doesn't do inline with EquationBuilder files, complain to the app developer. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 14 Dec 1994 23:09:10 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3cntum$7u9@network.ucsd.edu> References: <D0Irx8.IBJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Philip McDunnough (phillip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: : >Write-Up seems nice and simple, but perhaps too simple. I don't think : >that it can do tables or equations. (Can any of the above do : >equations? Since it is still fairly new, is it fairly robust? : WriteUp is a really nice word processor. It does not do equations ( none : of the above can). But you can simply get Equation Builder which is a : first rate application. It works with WU. Pages is not a wp. There's : another DTP'ing program called PasteUp, and of course Frame which will : do equations. Question: Can Equation Builder put equations "inline", i.e. TeX equivalent of Now, from equation (\ref(eq:big)) one differentiates both sides resulting in $d_E = \partial^2 \eta / \partial x \partial y + \nabla^2 \vec{u}$ using the continuity equation. When I saw "equation builders" on the Mac many years ago, they made "block PICT"s that you could insert as a big displayed equation, but not easily inline (if they did, line spacing was completely messed up). And what about equation numbering and referencing? : >And I haven't heard or seen anything about OpenWrite. Any opinions? cheers matt : -- : Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) : philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu : [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fma@opal (frank ma) Subject: Graphic tools to shrink the image Message-ID: <1994Dec16.052014.23535@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: sps Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 05:20:14 GMT Is there any graphic freeware shrinking bitmap or gif image and save the shrinked bitmap into a new file? Thank you. Frank Ma
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 16 Dec 1994 10:23:13 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3crpqh$p8v@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <3cr0im$c13@agate.berkeley.edu> Izumi Ohzawa writes > In article <3cntum$7u9@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: > > >Question: Can Equation Builder put equations "inline", i.e. TeX equivalent > >of > > Yes and no. [...] > If the app ignores it, then it won't happen. > So, it your favorite app doesn't do inline with EquationBuilder files, > complain to the app developer. > The same is valid for your second question, equation numbering and referencing must be done by the wordprocessor/ DTP app. If it doesn't complain with the app developer. If only more people would complain with Pages, that they want to see EqB incorporated, sigh ... -- Moritz Willers Institute of Theoretical Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 3012 Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Browser Date: 16 Dec 1994 11:55:57 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec16115557@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> <3cpurn$m87@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> To: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) In-reply-to: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE's message of 15 Dec 1994 17:36:55 GMT <tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> writes: >In article <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan >Wacker) writes: >>On 6 Dec 1994 00:47:03 GMT, Ron Ohmer (RO) wrote: >> >>Why don't you like OmniWeb? I've had some problems too, but they are >>all solved now. >OmniWeb _was_ good. Now is getting slower and buggy :-( >> >Try SpiderWoman and you will fall in love! >;-)) I've not yet seen SpiderWoman but lets not give up on OmniWeb. Just look at their track record! Competition is good for everbody. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources References: <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3cpf9k$4f2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:59:19 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec16.105919.14274@proximus.north.de> Distribution: inet In article <3cpf9k$4f2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>, Nigel Champion <nigelc@drake.bt.co.uk> wrote: >In article <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> >robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: >> >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >> >> >>I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I >> >>can find them? > >I think you will find them in /usr/man/man/man1/ > >For some reason they are not link in! But do seem to remember something >in the 3.2 Bug/Release notes about this problem. There are no man pages for those programs. However, there are info pages for those programs, you can install them in /usr/local/info or wherever you want and view them with emacs with info.el or with the program "info". (Info files are hypertext man pages) Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: cairoli@deis65.cineca.it (Claudio Cairoli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: inn and ifmail for Next Date: 16 Dec 1994 13:30:39 GMT Organization: Cineca Sender: cairoli@deis65 (Claudio Cairoli) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cs4pv$mg@sirio.cineca.it> Hi, I've tried to compile by myself inn and ifmail (a fidonet-internet gate) but without succes, does anybody knows where I can find these two apps precompiled ? Thanks to everybody Regards Claudio
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Message-ID: <D0v6zE.18C@pages.com> Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <3cmfao$68p@crcnis3.unl.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 18:21:14 GMT In article <3cmfao$68p@crcnis3.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: > > Bruce, you marketing specialist! You created interest to focus > attention on the announcement. Are you sure you're an engineer? > Hey, when you work in a startup, you do everything. :-) I can show you ads in Publish magazine for the company I worked at before Pages for which I conceived the ad campaign, wrote the copy, created the props, oversaw the photo shoot, and did the final layout (on a NeXT, by the way). On the other hand, I don't want to be obnoxious or self-serving. So I'm happy to answer questions or respond to comments, but I won't sit here and babble on about our new release. "What new release?", you say. Funny you should ask.... ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | The simplest schoolboy is now familiar with CTO, Pages Software Inc | truths for which Archimedes would have bwebster@pages.com | sacrificed his life. #import <disclaimer.h> | -- Ernest Renan ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? Date: 16 Dec 1994 14:59:29 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <3csa0h$4rl@news.tamu.edu> References: <3cl1dt$lhk@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Shawn Lynn (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: : Has anyone tried out CheckSum? I've got the demo, but often there are : things about the product that you don't notice until you've actually used : it for a while. : Any comments? I've used it for over a year now and have been very satisfied with it. A very nice program for personal finance! Blue Skies, Hanspeter Schaub schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: martin@p45.isltd.insignia.com (Martin Hopkins) Subject: Re: Omniweb automatic decompression on download? In-Reply-To: doyle@pion.lanl.gov's message of 14 Dec 1994 20:26:24 GMT Message-ID: <MARTIN.94Dec16155949@p45.isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News) Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd References: <3cinpr$eli@bunyan.covenant.edu> <3cnkdg$dak@newshost.lanl.gov> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 15:59:49 GMT In article <3cnkdg$dak@newshost.lanl.gov> doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) writes: >It is a real shame that NeXTSTEP still doesn't have a Web browser that has >the functionality that Mosaic had a year ago. I haven't seen SpiderWoman >yet, so their is hope (although using EOF is a very big drawback). We are >quite avid NeXTSTEP fans, but we find it difficult to recommend it to our >colleagues because of the poor state of Web browsers (i.e. the >functionality that is needed is precisely that which is missing). You could of course run X-windows on your NeXT and run mosaic - I'm currently running v2.1 on Intel NeXTSTEP Martin.
From: bjanzen@rmii.com (Barry Janzen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu down? Date: 16 Dec 1994 16:43:11 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc Message-ID: <3csg2v$2fa@potogold.rmii.com> What gives with ftp.cs.orst.edu - I haven't been able to get to it for two days. Is anyone home? bjanzen@lexmark.com (work -NeXTMail ok) bjanzen@rmii.com (home)
From: parkhill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Robert Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TransSys PNI SLIP down on file x-fer--Help!: PPP?: LONG! Date: 16 Dec 1994 04:11:27 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <3cr41f$4ok@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3cjeb7$9bs@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: PNI, SLIP, TransSys In article <3cjeb7$9bs@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>, Alan A. Barhorst <alan@osci.me.ttu.edu> wrote: [munch] >Has anybody got PPP from Stephen P. working in the above mentioned >configuration? Steve says to ask outloud! I have that PPP package up and running on my machine. I'm using it right now, in fact. I got OmniWeb to work fine the first try, but I'm still having serious problems getting NewsGrazer to work. Actually, it seems that news in general doesn;t work (news through OmniWeb doesn't fly either) Any NNTP gurus out there? I told NewsGrazer the name of the news host (luey.cadvision.com) and I set my domain name to cadvision.com, but the news server still won't talk to me. (If anyone is still reading this, my provider tells me that the news server is using port 119, and only accepts connections from machines with a domain of cadvision.com) For anyone considering using Steve Perkins port of PPP for NeXTSTEP, do it! A breeze to install. I don't know how I lived without it before. [munch] later... Rob -- o/\_ | o | - _, | \\ // | Rob Parkhill <\__,\ | /\, | ,_\__/o__, ,-, |\\ \\// //| CPSC Guy, "> | | -|~(*)/ | | \\//\\// | University of Calgary : | |(*) /-' |,./\.,.,,,.,..,.,/\| \/ \/ | parkhill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 18:51:42 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <YiwWUCW00iV009EWd0@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Dec16.105919.14274@proximus.north.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Dec-94 Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, .. by Gerhard Moeller: > >> >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: Please watch your attributions; not one word of mine remained, but the quoting made it look like I had said something when in fact someone else did. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? - check demo version Date: 16 Dec 1994 23:46:11 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ct8s4$7af@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3cqdc3$n68@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > I tried to export my MS Money file through a Quicken intermediary > file into CheckSum. However, I inevitably ended up with program > crashes at random points, so it was not worth it to me. Then > again, I last tried it 6-12 months ago. The program has promise, > but it just wasn't there yet for me. I tried out CheckSum last spring, and ran into many similar problems when importing all my records (from the Mac version of Quicken). I sent a message to the company, and they said that the demo version was out-of-date, and they NeXTmailed me a newer version. The new version seemed to import all my information without any trouble. Later they updated the version that was on some of the FTP archives. However, you have to make sure you get the *right* demo, as the previous demo version may still be around (it seems to be at ftp.cs.orst.edu, for instance). To make things more confusing, the different demo versions are in different directories, so make *sure* you get the latest one. On ftp.cs.orst.edu, check directory pub/next/demos/spreadsheets for the files: 909312 May 25 16:48 CheckSumDemo1_15.tar 1821 May 25 16:49 CheckSumDemo1_15_README If you are in directories like pub/next/demos/util, you'll see the files: 1715 Aug 2 1993 CheckSumDemo1_1_README 892928 Aug 11 1993 CheckSumDemo1_1.pkg.tar these are, obviously, an earlier version... Ignore these! If you're still having troubles, you might want to send them some email, and see if there's an even newer demo version. [as for me, I didn't buy CheckSum yet, but mainly because I don't have a printer on my NeXTstation at home. Sometime I'll sell the printer I have on my Mac, get a different one that works on my NeXT, and then I expect to pick this up]. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jeske@genesis.isdn.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] NS/Sparc beta out? Date: 17 Dec 1994 00:46:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3ctcc9$mjg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Along with all the talk of Developer 3.3beta (which my site has now) there was talk of NS/Sparc beta being shipped at the same time. I enquired with NS registered developer support and they didn't seem to know what I was talking about. (they referred me to the real 3.3 which was available and said that I should buy that... which we have) Is NS/Sparc PR1 out? We have been anxiously awaiting this.
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: nntp Date: 16 Dec 1994 16:51:00 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3ctclk$1qf@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <10720@cg-atla.uucp> Summary: NNTPclient-1.6.1 fails installation Keywords: nntp, next I too am trying to get an NNTP client to work with NSFIP3.2 The best bet seems to be NNTPclient-1.6.1 available by anonymous ftp from <ftp.uu.net>. This package doesn't install directly though, it barfs when trying at cpp. That is, it refuses to accept `cc -E' as a valid way to run the preprocessor. I belive I might have seen someone mention that there is some other snafu. Is there an NNTPclient that is known to work with NSFIP3.2? _____________________________ John Candlish NeXTmail no --> candlish@oregon.uoregon.edu NeXTmail yes --> whizer@cs.uoregon.edu .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: SoftPC with Windows? Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Dec16183556@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 23:35:56 GMT I have a demo of SoftPC on my NS3.2 CD. How can I start Windows in it? The help refers to a manual page that I don't have. Thanks, Francois Magnan -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Browser Date: 16 Dec 1994 18:54:38 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3ctjte$fqu@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> <3cpurn$m87@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Georg Tuparev writes: >OmniWeb _was_ good. Now is getting slower and buggy :-( From where I'm standing OmniWeb is getting fast and bug-free. -Wil
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How the set the dev name for com3, ...etc Date: 17 Dec 1994 04:13:32 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3ctohc$8ov@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Post for my friend He use the Mux drivers, and the mouse driver is succesfully installed, but he can not find the suitalbe dev in /etc to use the com3 Anybody know how to do it? Thanks Mark
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Any comments on CheckSum? - check demo version Date: 16 Dec 1994 23:22:33 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ctp29$ilj@digifix.digifix.com> References: <3ct8s4$7af@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A. Drosehn writes > If you are in directories like pub/next/demos/util, you'll see > the files: > 1715 Aug 2 1993 CheckSumDemo1_1_README > 892928 Aug 11 1993 CheckSumDemo1_1.pkg.tar > these are, obviously, an earlier version... Ignore these! If > you're still having troubles, you might want to send them some > email, and see if there's an even newer demo version. > I deleted those tonight, so they are not there anymore... If you find otherstuff that should be deleted, please let me know. Thanks Scott -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: (Teej)luomat@alleg.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu down? Date: 17 Dec 1994 12:13:02 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412171813.AA20288@alleg.EDU> > What gives with ftp.cs.orst.edu - I haven't been able to > get to it for two days. Is anyone home? > try 'santiam.cs.orst.edu' TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Gregory W. Gee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tcl/tk for NeXT ??? Date: 17 Dec 1994 18:53:47 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario Message-ID: <3cvc3r$31s@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> I am looking for tcl and tk for the NeXT platform. I found tcl-7.3-MAB.pkg.tar at ftp.cs.orst.edu but it has the file paths compiled in for /LocalDeveloper/lib/tcl. This is simple to change using the environment variable but I would rarther have it in /usr/local/lib/tcl. Is there somewhere where I can get the before mentioned package in source code(NeXT ported already)? I have tried to compile tcl7.3 and tk6.3 but they do not run. If someone could point me to a source, I would greatly appreciate it. -- **************************************************************************** Greg Gee The G-Man gee@csd.uwo.ca Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mix (from iLink) and fax problems Date: 17 Dec 1994 16:09:31 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <3cv2fr$iud@news.mic.ucla.edu> I am using mix from iLink for faxing. Lately I have noticed that quite a few of my faxes fail to be delivered due to "no answer". Faxing a printed paper copy manually from a traditional fax machine to the same number seems always to work. Has anybody else noticed this problem with mix, and if so, do you have a workaround? I am using mix 2.0.2 on a Moto NS 3.2 Heikki
From: sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 conflict ATI GUP and PAS 16 Basic Date: 17 Dec 1994 16:31:10 -0500 Organization: Rutgers University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cvlau$qhj@andromeda.rutgers.edu> I just installed NSFIP 3.3 and lost my sound. Configure.app says there is a conflict on Port 0x52ee between the ATI GUP VLB and the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic. My PAS settings are DMA7, IRQ10, port 0x388. My ATI GUP VLB settings are Port 0x100, mapped mem: 0x7800000, 1120x832, 60hz, RGB 555/16. Any ideas? I moved the mapped mem: up to the 9000000 are no help. TIA, SC Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu down? Date: 17 Dec 1994 17:25:22 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cvogi$quu@digifix.digifix.com> References: <9412171813.AA20288@alleg.EDU> Teej writes > > What gives with ftp.cs.orst.edu - I haven't been able to > > get to it for two days. Is anyone home? > > > > try 'santiam.cs.orst.edu' > ftp.cs.orst.edu should point at santiam.. I there there is some odd network problems at orst... is been really sporatic this week. Monday they were down and scheduled to be down.. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: calhoun@leland.Stanford.EDU (ron calhoun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Slip connection work with 2.0 Date: 18 Dec 1994 06:50:05 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <3d0m2t$rh6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hi Next-gurus, I've got a 040 cube running 2.0, can anyone tell me if I can run a slip connection off this? If I do need a later version , where does one get say version 2.1 Nextstep.? Sorry to be so far behind the times.. Ron C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors In-Reply-To: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu's message of Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:24:44 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Dec17181716@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <3c7jt5$6li@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <D0Irx8.IBJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 02:17:16 GMT I would recommend FrameMaker. It has a bit higher learning curve, but it is worth it. It is also not that high. It is both word processor and document processor and contains elements of page layout. It can do equations (not as good as TeX), tables, simple graphics, and hypertext. Frame documents can be converted to html. The current NeXTSTEP version of FrameMaker is triple fat. FrameMaker documents are also binary compatible with versions of Frame for Windows, Mac, and other UNIX implementations. In summary, there are other NeXTSTEP applications out there that can beat FrameMaker on some features but Frame does it all at least in some decent way. So I think FrameMaker is the best bet for NeXTSTEP. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP crashed again ... Date: 18 Dec 1994 11:41:55 GMT Organization: PRZ/TU-Berlin Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d1763$u1@rkt.prz.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Today PPP crashed again (black HW, NS 3.2, LKS Version $Id: if_ppp.c,v 1.31) /usr/adm/messages says: 'mach: ppp0: bad frame checksum calculated... dropping packet', after that I got a panic window with something like 'canon input overrun' and 'Cpu(0): illegal descriptor during table walk'. What does it mean ? There seem to be so much people running PPP without any trouble. Could you mail or post all relevant setup-information, e.g. which options do you pass to pppd ? Thanks Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli) Subject: Re: Slip connection work with 2.0 References: <3d0m2t$rh6@nntp.stanford.edu> Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 19:08:44 GMT Message-ID: <D10t6K.GxH@ritz.mordor.com> In article <3d0m2t$rh6@nntp.stanford.edu>, ron calhoun <calhoun@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: > >Hi Next-gurus, > >I've got a 040 cube running 2.0, can anyone tell me if I can >run a slip connection off this? If I do need a later version , >where does one get say version 2.1 Nextstep.? Sorry to be so >far behind the times.. > >Ron C. > > I've been running slip off 2.1 until recently. There should be an old version on sonata.cc.purdue.edu in pub/NeXT/2.0/bin I don't think it will work with 2.0 due to some serial driver problems. However, you can upgrade to 2.1 if you find anyone who has it on a floptical or floppies. I'm sure there are lots of people in your area who still have it collecting dust somewhere. Think about upgrading to 3.3: it's only $199, even from 2.1, and you get to run all the new software. It's definately worth it! -Steve -- Steven D. Borrelli | finger for pgp public key borrelli@ritz.mordor.com |
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 18 Dec 1994 20:31:49 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d267l$2qe@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <PFKEB.94Dec17181716@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> In article <PFKEB.94Dec17181716@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes: > I would recommend FrameMaker. It has a bit higher learning curve, > but it is worth it. It is also not that high. It is both word > processor and document processor and contains elements of page layout. > It can do equations (not as good as TeX), tables, simple graphics, and > hypertext. In addition to its phenomenally high price, Frame has other significant problems. Frame's equations can't be cut and pasted into other NextStep applications. Frame doesn't seem to have dynamic object linking either. If I paste a graphic or and equation from EquationBuilder into Frame, I can't have it automatically updated when I go and change that graphic in the graphic program. I won't use Frame's equation editor if my equations are then stuck in my Frame documents, and I dislike having to keep track of all my equations, graphs and drawings myself. -- Todd Takken
From: sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (BELA SEFCSIK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems Date: 18 Dec 1994 21:22:09 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario Message-ID: <3d2961$119@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> I have a clone i486/66, with an Adaptec 1542CF controller, and a Quantum SCSI hard drive. I am running NeXTSTEP 3.2. Recently, my machine developed a problem when it displayed the following: Failed Instruction Exception press c to continue, r to reboot. After the system started to reboot, it never got past the Checking Disk part. Can anyone tell me what the problem might be? It didn't help to reinstall the system.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams) Subject: Re: WWW Browser Message-ID: <dlwD11C3w.2B8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> <3cpurn$m87@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 01:57:32 GMT Georg Tuparev (tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote: : In article <STEPHAN.94Dec11172301@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan : Try SpiderWoman and you will fall in love! : ;-)) SpiderWoman requires EOF does it not? and EOF is not FREE is it? If it is free please let me know where to get EOF from off of the net. thanks, David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Doug Moore Subject: Font conversion NeXT -> Mac Message-ID: <D11EMF.2Bx@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 02:53:54 GMT I have a NeXT font that I unfortunately need to convert to a Mac format. This should be easy, but I haven't stumbled on the secret yet. Any one know how? Thanks, -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X for NS/i Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 01:14:03 -0500 Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kixGGfm00YUnQPBEwR@andrew.cmu.edu> Does such a beast exist? -Leo +----------------------------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky <esp> leo@cmu.edu (NeXT-Mail Welcome) | |----------------------------------------------------+ | Carnegie-Mellon University | Leo, your mom called. | +----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty) Subject: personal finance software? Message-ID: <3d2vb3$3ap@beatty.slip.netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: none Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 03:40:19 GMT Is there any reasonably-priced personal finance software such as Quicken for black hardware? If I could afford a copy of SoftPC or Executor just to run one off-the-shelf program (does the appropriate version of Quicken, etc. actually run under either of these?), I'd hardly have need to run it. -- Derek Beatty beatty@netcom.com Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Can you do this in any end user database? Message-ID: <1994Dec18.004455.347@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 00:44:55 GMT Has anybody seen this feature in any of the known end user databases or knows a way how to do this? The online manuals of DataPhile and VarioData were no help for me. I need a sorting feature similar to the 'group by' operator in SQL. And I need to be able to use this easily in end user generated reports. I want to put a head- and/or footline (or section) over every group of records with the actual field value defining this group in it. And I want all counts, sums, mins, maxes, and means of this group of records accessible for this header/footer. I need not say that all global counts etc. should be accessible also. P.S.: FileMaker on the Mac used to have all these. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jnstibor@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Joern Stiborsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BUTT-HEAD Program for NeXT Computers available now! Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:22:44 GMT Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <3d3mtkE7cj@uni-erlangen.de> Hi dudes! I`ve written a cool Butt-Head Programm which is running on NeXT Computer. I is available for NeXTSTEP for Motorola now and it will be available for NeXTSTEP for Intel Prozessors in a week! For NeXTSTEP for Intel it is necessary to have a soundcard to use the complete POWER of this high quality product! Please send me an e-mail, and a i'll send this product to you! I would like to post the program in this Newsgroup (can someone tell me how to do this???) e-mail: jnstibor@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: SQL server Date: 19 Dec 1994 12:44:13 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3d3v6t$dsf@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Dear Sir, We got a problem when we use the NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 as a network NFS server. You will be highly appreciated if you could provide us a solution. The MicroSoft SQLserver was copied into the NS which was used as a NFS server, and several PC's which were running MS Windows with NFS utility were used as NFS clients. We met the file locking problem. The SQLserver could not be initialized. It seems NS does not have llockmgr process (Lock Manager) during booting. IS THERE ANY SOLUTION FOR THIS KIND OF PROBLEM ? Joseph Kang Object Rain Corp. No. of NRDP RD#292 E-mail : idpt353@tpts1.seed.net.tw
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: XEmacs 19 with CoXist? Followup-To: comp.emacs Date: 19 Dec 1994 13:08:40 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec19130840@steffi.dircon.co.uk> CC: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu CC: co-Xist_support@pencom.com Has anybody got the XEmacs distribution working under the NeXTSTEP Window Manager with Co-Xist? What is performance like? -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: personal finance software? Date: 19 Dec 1994 15:24:24 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3d48j8$em6@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3d2vb3$3ap@beatty.slip.netcom.com> In article <3d2vb3$3ap@beatty.slip.netcom.com> beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty) writes: > Is there any reasonably-priced personal finance software such as Quicken > for black hardware? If I could afford a copy of SoftPC or Executor just > to run one off-the-shelf program (does the appropriate version of Quicken, > etc. actually run under either of these?), I'd hardly have need to run it. > > -- > Derek Beatty > beatty@netcom.com > Austin, Texas CheckSum by Sirius Solutions is a nice personal accounting app ala "Quicken." It is very reasonably priced at $95. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X for NS/i Date: 19 Dec 1994 15:28:36 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3d48r4$emt@potogold.rmii.com> References: <kixGGfm00YUnQPBEwR@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <kixGGfm00YUnQPBEwR@andrew.cmu.edu> Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Does such a beast exist? > > -Leo > > +----------------------------------------------------+ > | Leo Turetsky <esp> leo@cmu.edu (NeXT-Mail Welcome) | > |----------------------------------------------------+ > | Carnegie-Mellon University | Leo, your mom called. | > +----------------------------------------------------+ Certainly. co-Xist by Pencom and Cub'X by Intuitive are both available for NS/FIP (and with educational discounts). Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there an Inspector to see inside wrappers? Date: 19 Dec 1994 11:38:42 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412191738.AA20811@alleg.EDU> I am looking for some Inspector or other tool which will allow me to examine wrappers (.app .mbox .nfold etc) without having to do 'Open as Folder' all the time. I'd like to be able to click on them and see the sub-directories just like I would normally (using Browser view). I am sure something like this must exist somewhere. Any pointers? Please respond via email (as well as post, if so desired) as I will be leaving for home in a few days and do not want to miss the reply. Many thanks TjL -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Font conversion NeXT -> Mac In-Reply-To: Doug Moore's message of Mon, 19 Dec 1994 02:53:54 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Dec19104530@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <D11EMF.2Bx@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 18:45:30 GMT Doug writes: Doug> I have a NeXT font that I unfortunately need to convert to a Mac Doug> format. This should be easy, but I haven't stumbled on the secret Doug> yet. Any one know how? You will need a program such as Fontographer in the Mac to do the conversion. Unfortunately, the Mac version has to have additional cruft attached onto it. The manipulation of the data is fairly easy - the hex encoded part of the font gets put into a binary encoded "segment", and the initial ASCII portion gets put into an initial ASCII segment. But the resource stuff has to be "made up". -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric R Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: problem with NSFIP 3.3 and Weitek P9000 video driver Date: 19 Dec 1994 20:31:08 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <3d4qic$534@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used the Weitek P9000 driver (with a PCI Diamond Viper card) under 3.2 just fine, but since upgrading to 3.3 this morning, I get the following in /usr/adm/messages: WeitekP9000: Unable to reserve frame buffer address 0x80000000 Registering: VGADisplay0 NeXT technical help said a work around for this is to not install a video driver and let the auto-sensing capability install the proper driver. This didn't work on my Micron though :-( Anybody else getting this driver to work under 3.3? Thanks in advance. Eric Marshall EMI Software Engineering 903 Dunbarton Court Herndon, Virginia 22070 (703) 787-0834 eric@blacksmith.com
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca (Eric Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KPC488 Driver Version 1.0 submitted Date: 19 Dec 1994 20:11:44 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <3d4pe0$30e@tribune.usask.ca> I have placed a new version of my IEEE-488 NEXTSTEP 3.2 device driver in: ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions/KPC488Driver1.0.tar.gz ============================================================================= Changes in Version 1.0 19-DEC-1994 =================================== Serial polling has been added. The following ioctl leaves the serial poll status in `i': int i; ioctl (fd, KPC488_SPOLL, &i); SRQ status can be obtained with the following ioctl: int i; ioctl (fd, KPC488_GETSRQ, &i); This sets i to 1 if the SRQ line has been asserted since the last KPC488_GETSRQ operation. It sets i to 0 if the SRQ line has not been asserted since the last KPC488_GETSRQ operation. The file containing the driver ioctl definitions has been renamed KPC488ioctl.h. `make install' copies this file to /usr/local/include. DDM bits are by default OFF. Use DDMViewer.app to set them ON. Work around a NEXTSTEP 3.2 bug in isDMADone:. General cleanup The driver has been tested on a National Instruments GPIB-PCII/IIA card (thanks to Mahmud Haque <mahmud@slice.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu>). ============================================================================= From the Info.rtfd file: This is a simple, stripped-down, driver for the Keithley KPC488.2 IEEE-488 bus interface card. It also works with the National Instruments GPIB-PCII/IIA card. It may work for other cards that use the NEC uPD7210 chip. IEEE-488 devices appear as character special files /dev/ieee488/00 through /dev/ieee488/30. Writing to the special file sends the data to the corresponding IEEE-488 bus device. Reading from the special file receives data from the corresponding IEEE-488 bus device. There are ioctl's for IEEE-488 operations such as Selected Device Clear and Go To Local. There are also ioctl's to check the status of the SRQ line and to perform a serial poll operation. Having the IEEE-488 devices accessible through character special files means you can even work with shell scripts: ( echo "*IDN?" read ID echo "$ID" >idfile ) </dev/ieee488/05 >/dev/ieee488/05 The driver has a number of limitations, including: - The last byte of a write operation is sent with the END line asserted. This means that data to a particular device must be sent in a single write (or writev) operation. - No Parallel Poll. - No support for multiple listeners. - No support for passing control to another device. - No extended addressing. The driver shows how to: - add an accessory view to Configure.app (and how to make pop-up buttons change their title under program control). - write a driver with UNIX-style entry points. - automatically create UNIX character special files. - handle interrupts. - work with the pathetic DMA support provided by PC hardware. - set up Dynamic Debugging. Please send comments, suggestions, improvements to: W. Eric Norum Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan 107 North Road Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, CANADA S7N 5C6 eric@skatter.usask.ca -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 conflict ATI GUP and PAS 16 Basic Date: 19 Dec 1994 20:01:50 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d4ore$14s@rosie.next.com> References: <3cvlau$qhj@andromeda.rutgers.edu> In article <3cvlau$qhj@andromeda.rutgers.edu> sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins) writes: | I just installed NSFIP 3.3 and lost my sound. Configure.app says there is a conflict on Port 0x52ee between the ATI GUP VLB and the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic. My PAS settings are DMA7, IRQ10, port 0x388. My ATI GUP VLB settings are Port 0x100, mapped mem: 0x7800000, 1120x832, 60hz, RGB 555/16. | | Any ideas? I moved the mapped mem: up to the 9000000 are no help. | This happens because the ATI driver reserves many ports that it does not use. You should run Configure and select the display driver, then go to expert mode and change the port range "0x52ee-0xfeef" to "0x52ee-0x9a00 0x9a02-0xfeef" in the I/O ports line. -Rakesh
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Browser Date: 19 Dec 1994 22:03:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d4vvo$9ph@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <dlwD11C3w.2B8@netcom.com> dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams) writes: > Georg Tuparev (tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote: > : Try SpiderWoman and you will fall in love! > : ;-)) > > SpiderWoman requires EOF does it not? and EOF is not FREE is it? > If it is free please let me know where to get EOF from off of > the net. EOF is not free, and is not likely to be free. The current version of SpiderWoman requires EOF. However, the WWW page for SpiderWoman suggests that an upcoming version may not need to have EOF. It probably will require NS-3.3 User, which is also not free, but it's likely that more users will buy NS-3.3 for themselves (ie, for reasons other than SpiderWoman) than will buy EOF for themselves. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: stanifor@shasta.cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone compiled ListProcessor Date: 19 Dec 1994 22:10:59 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3d50dj$674@mark.ucdavis.edu> I want to get the List Processor (v6.0) software running on my NeXTstep Pentium. I got the generic source, but it seems to be rather a mess to configure it for the NeXT. Has anyone already done this who could share the modified source/Makefiles with me? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart Staniford-Chen | Dept of Computer Science stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu | UC Davis, Davis, CA 95616 (916) 752-2149 - work | and (916) 756-8697 - home | N St. Cohousing Community Home page is http://everest.cs.ucdavis.edu/~stanifor/home.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Font conversion NeXT -> Mac Message-ID: <D12x2y.Lp2@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <BYER.94Dec19104530@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 22:28:10 GMT > > Doug writes: > > Doug> I have a NeXT font that I unfortunately need to convert to a Mac > Doug> format. This should be easy, but I haven't stumbled on the secret > Doug> yet. Any one know how? Apparently the Mac font conversion utility part of MetroTools is very good. Haven't tried it myself. later j
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dots with Canon Bubble Jet printers: Experiences? Date: 19 Dec 1994 22:56:57 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3d533p$c6p@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: Has anybody out there used Dots with the various Bubble Jet printers by Canon? I'd like to get rid of my laser printer due to its exceptional footprint. Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of limited interest to the rest of netland. Thanks, Alex
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: doom for next , could it be out with 3.3? Date: 19 Dec 1994 15:03:37 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <3d4vvp$1id@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> When will doom for next be out? Omnisoftware has a html page. http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/Doom/ It was last updated on dec 13. They said it requires the latest interceptor technology which is in ns 3.3 and nexttime. maybe they are waiting for ns3.3 to come out!?? They said it runs on 2 bit grey, 8 bit, 12 bit, 15 bit and 24 bit color; and on hp pa 3.2. There are some problems with making the sound work right. Plays sounds but not music. It will cost money. The dec 13 update says they have a sound mixing object that eliminates most of the problems. Mouse support is coming along... They announced it so long ago in comp.sys.next.announce, I would have hoped I could buy it by now. I am ready to buy it right now. I put off buying the dos doom since I wanted to support nextstep. -nick
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dots with Canon Bubble Jet printers: Experiences? Date: 19 Dec 1994 18:00:51 -0600 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Message-ID: <3d56rj$9i1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <3d533p$c6p@hermes.dna.mci.com> In article <3d533p$c6p@hermes.dna.mci.com>, Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote: >Has anybody out there used Dots with the various Bubble Jet printers by >Canon? I'd like to get rid of my laser printer due to its exceptional >footprint. > >Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of limited interest to the >rest of netland. Actually, please post your responses. The Canon Bubble Jet BJ-200e got a great review in Byte (if I remember the magazine correctly). And for ~$225 at Best Buy and Circuit City, it is almost a steal. ============ "If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let 'em go, because, man, they're gone." -Jack Handey ============ ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT CD-rom and CDPlayer.app Date: 19 Dec 1994 19:56:55 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3d4oi7$d8b@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: old cube Hullo friends! I have an old 040 cube running NeXTstep 3.2. Connected to it is a NeXT CD rom drive. I have tried to use CDPlayer.app, and it returns an error that it can not find the CD rom drive. The same drive has sucessfully read PhotoCDs and ordinary NeXT CDs. Is there some sort of issue that I am not aware of? Chris Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there an Inspector to see inside wrappers? Date: 19 Dec 1994 22:08:47 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412200408.AA17312@alleg.EDU> as a PS: I know about the WrapperInspector which does something like this in the Tools/Inspector, but I'd like something that manipulates the File Viewer itself (if that is even possible) Thanks TjL -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SLIP/PPP and NS 3.3 (do they coexist?): Date: 20 Dec 1994 04:01:52 GMT Organization: Emory University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d5kvg$h2u@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Does anyone know if PNI SLIP will work with NS 3.3? What about the various PPP products out there... Thanks for any info. I have SLIP now with 3.2 and it would be a big problem if I lost it in my upgrade to 3.3. Thanks! -- William Morse ITS Emory School of Law
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: yquint@rainbow.UWaterloo.ca (Yuri Quintana) Subject: Info on SW for printing on Color Ink Jet Message-ID: <D13BLE.A9y@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Keywords: DOTS, JetPilot, Epson Stylus, Lekmark Exec Jet, Ink Jet Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 03:41:38 GMT Here is some relevant information on using color ink jets and NextStep. I have recently collected this information and believe it is accurate. Please let me know of any errors or omissions. It is NOT an endorsement, promotion, or warranty of any product. Just information that I have collected to base my own purchasing decision. I think there is a growing number of people interested in BW and color ink jets because of the decreasing price and improving quality. I would like to hear about experiences with DOTS or JetPilot. I am particularly interested if any one has tried the LexMark Exec Jet II Color with overheads from a NextStep Intel machine using either Create or Diagram. Hope this is useful to the NS net community. Yuri Quintana yquint@zeus.UWaterloo.ca --- Notes: ---- DOTS and JetPilot are software products for printing color postscript on ink jet. Federico Heinz of F. Heinz Consultora in Cordoba, Argentina (federico@heinz.com) is the maker of DOTS. comp.sys.next.announce on 16 Dec had an announcement describing DOTS 3.5.5 and supported printers. The announcement lists support for Epson Stylus Color. Jens Gloede of Interpersonal-Computing in Munich, Germany (jens@interpc.de) is the supplier of Jet Pilot. Current version is 1.6. There are plans to support Epson Stylus Color in 1.7 interpersonal-computing GmbH Oettingenstrasse 2 80538 Munich/GERMANY ++49 (0) 89 22 28 63 ++49 (0) 89 22 33 76 Fax sm@interpc.de Jens Gloede <jens@interpc.de> OpenSource and Jet Pilot are sold by OpenSource. Contact: Garrett Rice <garrett@opensource.com>. Discount on educational orders. OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) Alembic sells NextStep OS and software at educational prices. US Distributor: Alembic Systems International, LTD. 14 Inverness Drive, Suite G-228, Englewood, CO 80112 303.799.6223 phone 303.799.1435 fax info@alembic.com Toll free USA and Canada 1-800-452-7608 Contact: Rob Blessin info@alembic.com DOTs and JetPilot overviews and demo software are at Index for ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/drivers Last Updated Wed Dec 14 01:00:09 PST 1994 Also on ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/hardware/printer/Dots3.5.5-Readme.rtf ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/hardware/printer/Dots.3.5.5.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/hardware/printer/JetPilot.1.6.NIH.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/hardware/printer/JetPilot.1.6.README Diagram is by Lighthouse Design, Ltd. Current Version 2.2 Contact: Robin R. Shields robin@lighthouse.com http://www.lighthouse.com/ Lighthouse Design, Ltd. 2929 Campus Drive, San Mateo, CA 94403 USA. International calls (415) 570-7736. FAX (415) 570-7787 Toll Free (USA) 1-800-366-2279 Educational Pricing available. Create is by Stone Design Corp. Current Version of Create 2.1 Contact: Katie Graunke katie@stone.com Stone Design Corp. 3725 Rio Grande NW Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-345-4800, fax 505-345-3424 info@stone.com http://www.stone.com/stone Currently having a sale on Create. Posted to comp.sys.next.announce Dec 6 1994. Educational prices also available. StepWise is an index of NextStep SW and HW. Try http://www.stepwise.com/ ---- End: ----
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: problem with NSFIP 3.3 and Weitek P9000 video driver Date: 20 Dec 1994 05:45:54 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3d5r2i$5oc@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3d4qic$534@portal.gmu.edu> In article <3d4qic$534@portal.gmu.edu> emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric R Marshall) writes: > I used the Weitek P9000 driver (with a PCI Diamond Viper > card) under 3.2 just fine, but since upgrading to 3.3 this morning, > I get the following in /usr/adm/messages: > > WeitekP9000: Unable to reserve frame buffer address 0x80000000 > Registering: VGADisplay0 > > NeXT technical help said a work around for this is to not > install a video driver and let the auto-sensing capability install > the proper driver. This didn't work on my Micron though :-( > > Anybody else getting this driver to work under 3.3? > I do not know whether the 3.2 drivers can work in 3.3 or not. If yes, you can download the 3.2 drivers to use. I have not got my 3.3. But I suggest you to see the Instance0.table and Default.table because I always found the problem there in 3.2. Just check if it is correct. Hope it can help you! Mark
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PD database apps for NeXTstep? Date: 20 Dec 1994 07:50:29 GMT Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <3d62c5$a6i@net.auckland.ac.nz> Hi all, I'm looking for some simple database I can use to catalog my photo collection etc. and I'm rather confused by the database situation on NeXT. I'm running 3.2, and it looks like there's some sybase server in the system, but that's as far as my understanding goes. Is it fully functional, and if so how do you use it to put together a database? I've downloaded dbmdemo.app and dbmadaptor, but they make no sense... I suppose it's _supposed_ to be real easy to knock a database together from the tools provided, but I've got NO idea where to start and I'd rather use something pre-existing. I have better things to do... Can anyone enlighten me please? Steve sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz NeXTmail welcome
From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: elm.pkg installation failed Date: 20 Dec 1994 09:23:57 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3d67rd$eeg@news.tuwien.ac.at> I tried to install elm24PL23.pkg from ftp.cs.orst.edu, but it didn't work. I then tried to mail robert@steffi.demon.co.uk, who uploaded it into this archive, but couldn't reach him. Has anybody out there successfully installed elm? What do you use for remote mail reading? Thanks for any help, Willi willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT) This is my email to Robert somewhere in Britain: --------------------------------------------------------------- In ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/comm/elm24PL23.pkg.tar.README you wrote: > This is a FAT elm 24 PL 23.... > comments/suggestions to robert@steffi.demon.co.uk Just tried to install it. Here's my Logfile: ---------------------------------------------------- Checking permissions for the files in elm.pkg ... Checking /usr/local/bin/answer ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/arepdaemon ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/autoreply ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/checkalias ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/elm ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/elmalias ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/fastmail ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/filter ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/frm ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/listalias ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/messages ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/newalias ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/newmail ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/printmail ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/readmsg ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/nfrm ... OK. Checking /usr/local/bin/wnewmail ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.0 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.2 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.3 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elmrc-info ... OK. Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/prlong ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/answer.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/autoreply.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/checkalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/elm.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/elmalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/fastmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/filter.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/frm.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/listalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/messages.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/newalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/newmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/printmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/readmsg.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/wnewmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/answer.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/autoreply.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/checkalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/elm.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/elmalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/fastmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/filter.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/frm.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/listalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/messages.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/newalias.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/newmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/printmail.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/readmsg.1 ... OK. Checking /usr/local/man/man1/wnewmail.1 ... OK. Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/elm.pkg ... OK. .. done. Installing elm.pkg into / ... Running installation program ... Missing ]. **** There were errors while installing elm.pkg. .. errors. ----------------------------------------------------------- So what's wrong? Is there a cure? Thanks and Greetings from Vienna, Willi willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: gery@ares.fdn.org(gery) Subject: Re: problem with NSFIP 3.3 and Weitek P9000 video driver Message-ID: <1994Dec20.121415.1737@ares.domain.name> Sender: news@ares.domain.name Organization: ARES - Lyon, France. References: <3d5r2i$5oc@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 12:14:15 GMT In article <3d5r2i$5oc@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes: > In article <3d4qic$534@portal.gmu.edu> emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric R > Marshall) writes: > > I used the Weitek P9000 driver (with a PCI Diamond Viper > > card) under 3.2 just fine, but since upgrading to 3.3 this morning, > > I get the following in /usr/adm/messages: > > > > WeitekP9000: Unable to reserve frame buffer address 0x80000000 > > Registering: VGADisplay0 > > > > NeXT technical help said a work around for this is to not > > install a video driver and let the auto-sensing capability install > > the proper driver. This didn't work on my Micron though :-( > > > > Anybody else getting this driver to work under 3.3? > > > > I do not know whether the 3.2 drivers can work in 3.3 or not. If > yes, you can download the 3.2 drivers to use. I have not got my > 3.3. But I suggest you to see the Instance0.table and Default.table > because I always found the problem there in 3.2. Just check if > it is correct. > > Hope it can help you! > > Mark > We had the same problem and I solved it modifying the Default.table file directly with the Diamond parameters. when I launch Configure I have no display driver installed but it work nice at boot.... Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy ) ARES Publisher 8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30 69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32 France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Guehrs Subject: ATTENTION: MIX DOES NOT WORK WITH NEXTSTEP 3.3 Message-ID: <D13urE.66v@ilink.de> Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 10:35:37 GMT +++ i.link news flash +++ To all mix customers, NeXT starts shipping the new system software release NEXTSTEP 3.3. Due to internal changes to the system kernel, none of the current mix software versions (2.0 - 2.03) will work under NEXTSTEP 3.3. IN PARTICULAR, HAVING mix INSTALLED UNDER NEXTSTEP 3.3 WILL CAUSE THE COMPUTER TO HANG DURING REBOOT. Our engineers are currently working to adapt mix to NEXTSTEP 3.3 in order to create an upgrade (mix 2.04) that will solve the problem. We will make this update available via ftp. OUR SUGGESTION TO ALL mix USERS: Do not upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.3 before the mix 2.04 update is available. Customers already having installed NEXTSTEP 3.3 will have to deinstall mix or revert to NEXTSTEP 3.2. Sincerely, Piers Uso Walter i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
From: jmm@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Y&Y fonts broken under NS 3.3 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 15:04:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <941220100435.1806AABqG.jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: fonts, NS 3.3 I just upgraded to NS 3.3, and find that Y&Y's Lucida fonts are no longer working (under either TeXview (the new version), which prints black boxes for them, or dvips, which prints blanks). I got the following error messages from dvips: any ideas? ---------------------------------------------------------- This is METAFONT, C Version 2.71 ! I can't find file `lbr.mf'. <*> ...exthi; mag:=1+16/400; scrollmode; input lbr Please type another input file name: ! Emergency stop. <*> ...exthi; mag:=1+16/400; scrollmode; input lbr Transcript written on mfput.log. Metafont failed for some reason on lbr.416gf dvips: Font lbr.416pk not found, characters will be left blank. <tex.pro>. [1] -----------------------------------------------------------
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin Subject: deslib.a for NeXT Date: 20 Dec 1994 15:43:40 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <3d6u3c$40l@news1.digex.net> Hi, I'm trying to build the Cray encrypting telnet client for my NeXT. I already have a kerberos server to lean against, so I'm not trying to do anything as ambitious as porting all of kerberos -- I just need the deslib.a to slide into the Cray source tree. Unfortunately, the K4 crypto stuff (at least what I have) is very confusing. I'm getting stopped by problems such as no 'key_perm.h'. (On the other hand, is this .h file supposed to be generated by 'make_key_perm'??? How?) So, if someone who has successfully build libdes.a could drop me a line -- even if you aren't on a NeXT, but especially if you are -- I'd appreciate it. Thanks, David.
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: TALUS NCR for 3.3 Date: 20 Dec 1994 15:55:44 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> We have received dozens of phone calls and emails over the past week, now that 3.3 is shipping, asking us if our NCR driver is ready for 3.3. This included a couple of callers who wanted assurances that the driver has been thoroughly beta tested. I've made more than one post here criticizing NeXT's failure to ship a driver kit for 3.3 to developers in a timely manner, however, no one seemed very concerned about it at the time and someone even accused me of "harping" on NeXT. NeXT has obviously been writing 3.3 drivers for months, judging from the multitude of new PCI drivers available in 3.3, yet they failed to ship the driver kit to third parties until _after_ the final release of 3.3! This is totally inexcusable and will force a number of users to either purchase new hardware or delay installation of 3.3. We completely understand the seriousness of this problem and we're doing everything we can to update our NCR driver in record time. But please understand, however, that we aren't miracle workers and we won't ship a product that doesn't work. We apologize for the inconveniences that this will cause our customers, but we would like to point out that the blame for this delay belongs with NeXT alone...and not with Talus. Please do not flame us for something we had no control over (despite our "harping"). We sincerely hope that you'll drop a line to your favorite person at NeXT and let them know if this delay will cause you any inconvenience. Perhaps they won't do this again with 4.0. We will post a message to all news groups once the driver is close to shipping....which we hope will be soon. On a much brighter note.... As many of you know, Tanya is expecting a new baby girl. We sincerely want to thank those of you that sent your well-wishes. The doctor says that the baby could come literally any day now, so Talus will go on a part-time schedule for the Christmas/baby season. (Some people will do anything to get time off :-) We will be checking email and other messages as time allows. We wish everyone a very Merry Christmas. Sincerely, Steve Sarich Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation steve@talus.com Voice: 713-578-1434 Fax: 713-578-1815
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to turn off menus in Emacs 19.22 for NEXTSTEP (v4.0) Date: 20 Dec 1994 16:26:05 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <CRATH.94Dec20112605@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca> This is probably in the docs, but I haven't been able to find it. At work on my HP workstation I do a ``(menu-bar-mode -1)'' command in my .emacs file to turn off the menu bar. I would like to do something similar in Emacs on my NeXT. I only want the NEXTSTEP default menus (like Hide, Quit, etc.) to appear; I never use the menu entries made by lisp packages and their generation slows things down. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks, Christopher -- === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Bell-Northern Research | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: doom for next , could it be out with 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 16:47:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d71ra$gvf@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3d4vvp$1id@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: > When will doom for next be out? Omnisoftware has a html page. > > http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/Doom/ > > It was last updated on dec 13. They said it requires the latest > interceptor technology which is in ns 3.3 and nexttime. maybe they > are waiting for ns3.3 to come out!?? For what it's worth, I was also rummaging around for Doom II the other day, thinking that I'd get the NeXTSTEP-ing version if it was available for Xmas. Doesn't seem likely at the moment, but certainly I'd be interested to hear about progress on it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PD database apps for NeXTstep? Date: 20 Dec 1994 19:21:27 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d7arn$2f9@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <3d62c5$a6i@net.auckland.ac.nz> In article <3d62c5$a6i@net.auckland.ac.nz> sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) writes: > Hi all, > I'm looking for some simple database I can use to catalog my photo > collection etc. and I'm rather confused by the database situation on > NeXT. Try the MiniSql database - it's available from the Stepwise ftp and WWW site. > it looks like there's some sybase server > in the system, but that's as far as my understanding goes. Is it fully > functional, and if so how do you use it to put together a database? That's a Sybase client library. You'll need an external box running Sybase (old Black hardware is cheapest and you'll get great performance from a headless slab!) > I've downloaded dbmdemo.app and dbmadaptor, but they make no sense... > I suppose it's _supposed_ to be real easy to knock a database together > from the tools provided, but I've got NO idea where to start and I'd > rather use something pre-existing. I have better things to do... It's not, unless you're an experienced SQL'er. Sigh. Good luck - you're in the area where Next is weakest. (Aside from Marketing :-) -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com (Steven W Schuldt) Message-ID: <9412202001.AA00804@newyork> Subject: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 15:02:29 -0500 id AA27591; Tue, 20 Dec 94 12:14:51 -0800 id AA12660; Tue, 20 Dec 94 15:07:47 EST id AA09024; Tue, 20 Dec 94 14:00:22 -0600 id AA00804; Tue, 20 Dec 94 15:01:41 -0500 id AA01352; Tue, 20 Dec 94 15:02:31 -0500 comp.sys.next.software.usenet@decwrl.dec.com All: Just thought I'd throw this soccer ball out to see if anyone even cares to entertain the idea of an alternative to the Empire. Based on the reality that both NeXT and Microsoft are hostile to ISVs (Microsoft because to do so supports their industry position, NeXT because it can't help itself), here is my personal list of steps NeXT should take: 1) Stumble on towards profitability and go public. 2) What good is owning the object layer when the productivity layer is non-existent or owned by Microsoft? Purchase Lighthouse Design (forget AppSoft already, their software was horrid - Lighthouse delivers the goods) outright with some of the new cash generated by step 1. Revamp and remarket their productivity application suite as NeXT's slick "OpenStep Office" or somesuch and virtually give it away with NEXTSTEP 4.0 purchases. This now turns NeXT's habitual abuse of third parties into a Microsoft-like advantage and creates an instantly viable 'sub-OS' akin to MS's Office, only better. 3) Get OpenStep/NS 4.0 OLE working across the new suite. 4) Relaunch the ObjectWare initiative and open up the Workspace and OpenStep Office up for any pesky third parties still standing. 5) Beat on Microsoft mercilessly with the OO and NS development environment clubs. 6) No more Mr. Nice Corporation. Advertise, fax-attack, bribe and strongarm the popular press into conceding that OpenStep is an alternative. 7) Maintain, improve and pray. Oh and 8), write some drivers... --- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Steven W. Schuldt | sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com Sr. Systems Administrator | "There are opportunities Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | in life for gaining Advertising and Public Relations | knowledge and experience..." Where the Wild Things Were | - Jeffrey Beaumont +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What works in 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 16:14:08 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d6vsg$5po@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.misc ] [ Author was Theodore J. Allen ] [ Posted on 20 Dec 1994 06:00:16 GMT ] NEXTSTEP 3.3 just came in today. The release notes say that you have to install emacs and NeXTTeX anew for them to work. They also say that BuildDisk.app is broken in 3.3 Intel. Otherwise, there appear to be very few known bugs. A few old bugs appear to remain. My question is: What works better in 3.3 than in 3.2, specifically in 3.3 FIP? 1) Are the serial drivers fixed? 2) Does the serial mouse still jump around during heavy bus activity? 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB to 1.8 MB.) 4) Does PPP 2.2 still work? 5) Do any of the wonderful freeware/shareware apps break? (I mean things such as the PASPlus driver, the DefaultsSystem Preference module, Stuart, Emacs_4.0, Fiend, NewsGrazer, OmniWeb, Opener, InstantTeX, etc.) 6) Do the MusicKit4.1 drivers operate with 3.3? Does anyone have any information? Thanks much, Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: u8313513@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What works in 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 16:14:17 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d6vsp$5po@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.misc ] [ Author was Lin Yi-chih ] [ Posted on 20 Dec 1994 06:19:51 GMT ] In article <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) writes: > NEXTSTEP 3.3 just came in today. The release notes say that you have to > install emacs and NeXTTeX anew for them to work. Do you mean I have to install emacs and NeXTTeX for NS3.2 before I installed NS 3.3? >They also say that BuildDisk.app is broken in 3.3 Intel. what? > My question is: > What works better in 3.3 than in 3.2, specifically in 3.3 FIP? > 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB > to 1.8 MB.) It's kidding. "Micro" Kernel? > 6) Do the MusicKit4.1 drivers operate with 3.3? > Does anyone have any information? which DSP card do you use? I have not got my 3.3, but just wait for the response, and see what's problem in 3.3 Mark
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need to rotate some .ps files. Date: 20 Dec 1994 21:12:56 GMT Organization: Legent Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d7hco$p4f@booch.legent.com> Keywords: WriteUp postscript rotation I have .ps files of my application's menus that I generated with the save button on the print panel of IB. IB second-guessed my page layout, and now a number of them are rotated 90 degrees. I need to rotate them back to portrait mode, so that I can paste them into a WriteUp document. Is there a util like psnup that will do this? BTW, psnup will rotate them, but I haven't been able to convince psnup not to put them n-up! Oh, and if you're listening, Greg, Writeup needs a 90 degree rotate function for imported graphics. -- _____________________________________________________________ John C. Randolph (408) 730-3500 jcr@sv.legent.com Legent Corporation 710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 "Hey %s! You're a Nazi, and you can't spell!"
From: tec@alumni.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on SW for printing on Color Ink Jet Date: 20 Dec 1994 22:07:20 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <3d7kio$ouk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <D13BLE.A9y@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Keywords: DOTS, JetPilot, Epson Stylus, Lekmark Exec Jet, Ink Jet We have an hp PaintJet printer, and I didn't see support for that listed. I've talked to Dots, and they aren't sure that it will all work with a PaintJet (this was a year ago). Does anybody have info on driving a PaintJet? Thanks, tec
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: elm.pkg installation failed Date: 20 Dec 1994 23:35:43 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec20233544@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3d67rd$eeg@news.tuwien.ac.at> To: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier) In-reply-to: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at's message of 20 Dec 1994 09:23:57 GMT <willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at> writes: >I tried to install elm24PL23.pkg from ftp.cs.orst.edu, but it didn't work. >I then tried to mail robert@steffi.demon.co.uk, who uploaded it into this >archive, but couldn't reach him. >Has anybody out there successfully installed elm? >What do you use for remote mail reading? >Thanks for any help, >Willi >willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT) In either the preinstall or postinstall or both scripts add #! /bin/sh The problem is that it assumed your login shell was born. >Installing elm.pkg into / ... > Running installation program ... Missing ]. >**** There were errors while installing elm.pkg. >.. errors. >----------------------------------------------------------- >So what's wrong? >Is there a cure? >Thanks and Greetings from Vienna, >Willi >willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT) -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on SW for printing on Color Ink Jet Date: 20 Dec 1994 23:36:45 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3d7pqd$eq6@maple.enet.net> References: <3d7kio$ouk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In article <3d7kio$ouk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tec@alumni.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) writes: > We have an hp PaintJet printer, and I didn't see support for that > listed. I've talked to Dots, and they aren't sure that it will all > work with a PaintJet (this was a year ago). > > Does anybody have info on driving a PaintJet? I see there's a driver for a HP Paintjet XL 300 in NS 3.3 for 80x86. DOn't have one so I can't say it works. BTW, how do you get rid of printers in Print Manager? I have one that is a remnant from 3.2 and I can't get rid of it (since it won't work anymore)
From: dac@engc.bu.edu (David Castanon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteNow Question Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:32:46 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3d80ju$npf@news.bu.edu> I recently had a major disk error, and reinitialized my drive, restoring my old files. However, my version of WriteNow (included in original System 2.0) was corrupted and has ceased to work. My current version of the system is 3.2, with Black hardware. I am looking for a utility to convert WriteNow files to RTF. Does such a utility exist? Any assistance would be welcome. -David dac@tawny.bu.edu
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 4 80x86 upgrade bug? Date: 20 Dec 1994 23:44:05 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3d7q85$f0n@maple.enet.net> I just upgraded a 80586 machine to NS 3.3 using the CD-ROM but there was one goof that i thought about but didn't do (wasn't mentioned in the upgrade manual) and had to reinstall from scratch. After I upgraded, it said to restart. Low and behold, the thing did but the display was set to default (so horrible near-CGA like resolution and NO working mouse driver!) I couldn't find a way to install the mouse driver (couldn't accept build host) so I had to reboot and reinstall which zapped my files (no biggy but a pain). I guess what I should have done was to reload/respecify drivers from the build ost but didn't. Has anyone has these problems?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pec@netcom.com (Manabu Tokunaga) Subject: CubXWindows and FrameMaker 4 Message-ID: <pecD1594A.37I@netcom.com> Keywords: X Server, FrameMaker 4, Compatibility Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 04:43:22 GMT A month or so ago, I have posted and asked people if anybody was experienced difficulty using FrameMaker 4 remotely on Cub'X Windows. The problem was that basically SHIFT key did not do what it is suppoed to do. It turns out to be that the problem was due to FrameMaker 4 (on the Sun in our case) using Key Code rather than character code, and there were some maping problem. There is a workaround for this problem and you can obtain that information from Intuitive. I understand that they are working on a patch to resolve this problem.
From: prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr (Laurent PREVOSTO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS free softwares for HP-PA Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:15:31 GMT Organization: ENSTBR, Brest, France Distribution: world Message-ID: <PREVOSTO.94Dec21181532@orion.enstb.enst-bretagne.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a HP-9000/700 running NeXTSTEP 3.2 But no LocalApps are installed. So I would like to install useful tools such as GatorFTP, OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, Archie,....... Does anybody know a site where i could find HP binaries since no sources for major Local Applications seem to be available ? Thanx Laurent Email : prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurent PREVOSTO Chambre I8 205 Tel (98 00) 18 03 ENSTBr ( Pas loin de Plouz' qu'est pas loin de Brest qu'est loin de tout ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: taweili@aludra.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: *miroCrystal 40SV* driver *BROKEN* in 3.3 Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:12:16 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@aludra.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <TAWEILI.94Dec21011213@aludra.usc.edu> I just upgrade my DECpc XL Server to 3.3 and my miroCrystal 40SV driver doesn't work anymore. The error log said something like "_IOProbing not found." I guess this is some function taken out of DriverKit shared library. I have checked miro's BBS but there was not upgrade (12:10 AM 12/21/94). I have it run in standard VGA mode now (with 4 MB VRAM :-( ). -- Ta-Wei "David" Li Computer Engineering and Computer Science University of Southern California. Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HTTP Server for Next? Date: 21 Dec 1994 07:10:21 GMT Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd Message-ID: <3d8kct$hsj@yarrina.connect.com.au> References: <hunner-1112941051540001@hunner.pr.mcs.net> : 2) What about a FTP server? : Thanks, : Eric Dodson : hunner@mcs.com It's built-in. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley Email : cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax : +61-3-214-0102 Unit 11, 663 Victoria St, Phone : +61-3-214-0199 Abbotsford, VIC, 3067, Australia
From: John McCracken <johnmac@rahul.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC Error - Illegal Instruction Date: 21 Dec 1994 08:27:44 GMT Organization: a2i network Message-ID: <3d8ou0$56g@hustle.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-User: johnmac I've been having a problem with the evaluation copy of SoftPC 3.0 (release 3.00f6) that came with NS3.0. Besides running unbearably slow on a 25MHz color slab, it can't run several Windows that I'd like to use. An error panel such as the following appears and and the application quits: ______________________________________________________ | | | Application Error | | | | APDESIGN caused an illegal instruction in module | | MNDFRAME.EXE at 0005:004A | | | | _______ | | | Close | | | ------- | ------------------------------------------------------ Is there a preferences option I need to set or something? Is there a newer demo version of SoftPC that doesn't exhibit this behavior? I'd consider buying the program, slow as it is, if I could get it to run the software I need to run. Thanks. John McCracken john@nextdoor.com -- John McCracken <johnmac@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com (Steven W Schuldt) Message-ID: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 10:04:42 -0500 id AA04958; Wed, 21 Dec 94 07:27:38 -0800 id AA20226; Wed, 21 Dec 94 10:18:21 EST id AA15845; Wed, 21 Dec 94 09:02:21 -0600 id AA02684; Wed, 21 Dec 94 10:03:43 -0500 id AA01588; Wed, 21 Dec 94 10:04:45 -0500 comp.sys.next.software.usenet@decwrl.dec.com >> 2) What good is owning the object layer when the productivity >> layer is non-existent or owned by Microsoft? Purchase Lighthouse >> Design >> >Dumb idea. Horrid idea. You want the company with one of the >worst marketting records in the history of mankind to take over >marketting and sales for products they didn't write? You want >the company who has pinned their star on MCCA to market regular >productivity applications? If NeXT does this, it'd be time to >give up on NeXTSTEP. > This discussion is speculation about making NeXT a viable longterm alternative to the Microsoft dictatorship. If we are happy to eke out an existence on the MCCA periphery until Cairo appears and turns the lights out on NEXTSTEP/OpenStep for good then I agree with your comments. The MCCA focus is the (admittedly good) survival strategy of a shell-shocked company, however, NeXT cannot hide safely in this niche forever. Custom app development is a market Microsoft wants and they are going to make a massive play for it. Microsoft puts one niche player after another out of business and they are coming for us too, folks, make no mistake. NeXT is going to have to _act_ or we may as well start boning up on our VB. Besides, I suggested NeXT buy Lighthouse _the entire company_. They can keep on staff the guys who wrote the code to maintain/enhance the suite. Hell, they might even get innovative and give them some marketing autonomy. The important thing is that NeXT be perceived as offering a complete soup-to-nuts alternative to the Empire. What does Microsoft really have besides some press people in it's pocket, Windbloze, Office and 9 billion bucks? Who other than NeXT has the software technology to fight Microsoft? Apple? IBM!? If NeXT chooses not to do so then what kind of future are we facing? If the options really come down to slow death by attrition or a possibly suicidal assault on the Empire, I say we go out hitting something big... --- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Steven W. Schuldt | sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com Sr. Systems Administrator | "There are opportunities Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | in life for gaining Advertising and Public Relations | knowledge and experience..." Where the Wild Things Were | - Jeffrey Beaumont +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: rsrodger@Glue.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: 21 Dec 1994 11:35:40 -0500 Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <3d9lgs$gn6@convolution.eng.umd.edu> References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> In article <9412211503.AA02684@newyork>, Steven W Schuldt <sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com> wrote: > Who other than NeXT has the software technology to fight Microsoft? You are mistaken. NeXT does not have the software technology to fight Microsoft [and win]. NeXT lacks some very critical pieces of technology that Microsoft has already established dominance in. They are: 1) a desktop-suitable operating system NeXT: Nothing 2) mainstream applications (WP, DBMS, spread, illustration, etc.) NeXT: borderline and unsupported apps in all categories, some occasional flashes of brilliance (Pages, Tiffany) that are a subset of the functionality available on MS's platform 3) device drivers NeXT: borderline and nothing NeXT trying to fight Microsoft with NeXTSTEP as it's battering ram would have been like the North focusing all of their effort on Atlanta and forgetting the rest of the country while the South marched in, unopposed, and took it over. -- "IBM's install program is just fine." [and later:] "I will say it again: The install program is fine. But OS/2 just won't run on some pieces of hardware." -Steve Withers, IBM employee, explaining the problems that even faithful OS/2 users are having installing OS/2 3.0,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: HP DeskJets Supported in 3.3? Message-ID: <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:28:10 GMT Anyone got their 3.3 bundle yet? Are any HP DeskJet printers (ie. 500C, 550C, 540C, etc) supported? Does anybody know if NeXT will sell support for these printers separately? (Postscript => Dot Matrix support was in 3.1 but was removed for what I recall was licencing issues with Adobe...) Thanks! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 and PNI SLIP Date: 21 Dec 1994 12:15:58 -0600 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <3d9rcu$69b@ivy.bga.com> There has been some concern that 3.3 won't work with PNI SLIP. I just installed 3.3 and reinstalled TransSys-PNI-1.12. Seems to work just fine for me. There was one warning about the fact that my netinfo domain was configured (as a server??) in some particular fashion that usually causes problems for PNI (I don't remember the exact warning). It gave me the option of leaving it alone or changing it. Initially I choose the change it option, but this broke all kinds of other stuff on my system. I redid it choosing the "leave it alone" option, and it seems to work fine. Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world. bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands (NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Font conversion NeXT -> Mac Date: 21 Dec 1994 19:10:44 GMT Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina Message-ID: <3d9ujk$ktm@redstone.interpath.net> References: <BYER.94Dec19104530@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com> <D12x2y.Lp2@cunews.carleton.ca> Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca) wrote: : Apparently the Mac font conversion utility part of MetroTools is very : good. Haven't tried it myself. MetroTools converts Mac fonts to NeXT fonts and I believe that the original poster wished to convert NeXT-based fonts back to the Mac. I believe Scott has the correct solution in suggestion Fontographer (by Altsys, the creators of Virtuoso), it also does TrueType and PC fonts. Dave
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Battle of the Word Processors Date: 21 Dec 1994 19:00:31 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d9u0f$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <PFKEB.94Dec17181716@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> <3d267l$2qe@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@raven.stanford.edu) wrote: : In addition to its phenomenally high price, Frame has other significant : problems. Frame's equations can't be cut and pasted into other NextStep : applications. Frame doesn't seem to have dynamic object linking either. : If I paste a graphic or and equation from EquationBuilder into Frame, I : can't have it automatically updated when I go and change that graphic in : the graphic program. I won't use Frame's equation editor if my equations : are then stuck in my Frame documents, and I dislike having to keep track : of all my equations, graphs and drawings myself. However if you import the graphic instead, you have a choice of import by copy or by reference. AND when you do this, it only stores a path in the document. (This is a problem with the dynamic object linking. Look at the size of the stored file...) I recently used this feature to great advantage. I had some 300 MB of bitmaped topographic maps. Even splitting the document into 4-5 page files was hopelessly slow, so I reprocessed my bitmaps and created a second set at 50dpi instead of 200dpi. Then in my trip directory I had ps50dpi ps200dpi ps -> ps50dpi Then I imported from trips/ps, moved adjusted my overprinted comments, then closed the files, moved the ps link so that it pointed to ps200dpi, loaded and printed to a high res printer. I am unable to do this with any other app I've tried. With EquationBuilder, save to an eps file, then try File/import. FrameMaker does have one problem, in that the current release for Next is a full version behind that for either Windows/X-Windows/Mac. Sigh. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: rutkowsk@csn.net (Steve Rutkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is the FAQ Date: 21 Dec 1994 19:39:43 GMT Organization: Colorado Supernet Message-ID: <3da09v$j50@news-2.csn.net> Is there a FAQ list for this news group. I would like to read it before I clutter the new group with redundant questions. Thanks in Advance -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Steve Rutkowski ( rutkowsk@csn.org ) Lockheed - Denver, Colorado ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: 21 Dec 1994 20:24:19 GMT Organization: UCLA Dept. of Math, UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research Message-ID: <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> In article <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com (Steven W Schuldt) writes: >This discussion is speculation about making NeXT a >viable longterm alternative to the Microsoft dictatorship. Hey---its not April 1st yet is it? In short: there is not any strategy that will make NeXT into a viable alternative to MicroSoft. MicroSoft will own the commercial GUI and OS market for a long time (basically forever, by computer time scales). >What does Microsoft really have besides some press people in >it's pocket, Windbloze, Office and 9 billion bucks? An installed base of ~20--50 million users? (By the way, I saw in the San Jose Merc. News last week that MS has entered a deal with Chinese gov'mnt to develop a national standard GUI/OS for China, based on Windows---thats a slick way to add another, oh, billion users to your base) So, aside from a net worth of ~10^10 dollars, and approaching an installed base of 10^8 users, I guess they are lacking...er, except for the fact that they finally have (i) Real operating systems underlying their technology now (NT, and its son, the Windows 95 OS; NT is arguably superior to MACH as an OS, definitely superior to most UNIXes) (ii) The creator of the Mach OS and also the best practical OS designer in the world on their payroll (presently working on Cairo)---so they aren;t lacking for brains and talent (iii) A new GUI soon to appear, that is a massive improvemnt in quality, and in fact is comparable to NextStep quality (in fact, it looks a lot like NextStep---but not enough to be suable :-) >Who other than NeXT has the software technology to fight Microsoft? I think you are mistaken in assuming NeXT has a big technology advantage over MS; MS have access to pretty much the same Technology as NeXT---they just can't deploy it as rapidly because of marketing and backwards compatability issues. >the options rea >assault on the Empire, I say we go out hitting something big... NeXT's impact on MS would be roughly that of a misquito on an M-1 tank. (1) I don't see why you fear MS so much; its true that much of their early GUI/OS stuff was crappy as far as technology goes (DOS, Windows). But during the past 5 years they have shown a real effort to bring the new technology to the market, as demonstrated by their in house development of an entirely new operating system (NT, which they spent about $150M on), and the complete redesign of their GUI (-> Windows95). That is a highly non trivial commitment to quality to totally redo a very popular GUI (and it of course needed the redoing). Realistically, MS is doing much more to bring the modern technology to market than NeXT is. (2) Next will have to evolve into something that runs within the NT OS and Windows95 GUI. I think NeXT could make a great development environment---but they need to add cross platform support to what they offer now, plus some sort of scripting 4GL capability to their present platform. They could also make some great utilities like the Browser, Mail, Digital Librarian, etc. -- Barry Merriman UCLA Dept. of Math UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet) barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail)
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need to rotate some .ps files. Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 21:08:23 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Distribution: world Message-ID: <941221210823.2601AACUE.malc@white> References: <3d7hco$p4f@booch.legent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: WriteUp postscript rotation > I need to rotate them back to portrait mode, so that I can paste them into a > WriteUp document. Is there a util like psnup that will do this? > I can't see any reason why Tailor won't do it. Tailor's a wonderful PostScript-editing application from FirstClass: I'm beginning to wonder how I ever managed without it. If you're really stuck, and it's not commercailly sensitive, send me the doc and I'll have a go for you. Have fun, mmalc. posn. research facilitator where institute for language speech and hearing sheffield university c/o department of computer science regent court 211 portobello street sheffield s1 4dp england vox (+44) 114 282 5594 fax (+44) 114 278 0972 email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome Micro$oft mail at a push
From: taweili@phakt.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: *miroCrystal 40SV* driver *BROKEN* in 3.3 Date: 21 Dec 1994 15:18:44 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@phakt.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <TAWEILI.94Dec21151842@phakt.usc.edu> References: <TAWEILI.94Dec21011213@aludra.usc.edu> In-reply-to: taweili@aludra.usc.edu's message of 21 Dec 1994 01:12:16 -0800 >>>>> "Ta-Wei" == Ta-Wei Li <taweili@aludra.usc.edu> writes: In article <TAWEILI.94Dec21011213@aludra.usc.edu> taweili@aludra.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) writes: Ta-Wei> I just upgrade my DECpc XL Server to 3.3 and my Ta-Wei> miroCrystal 40SV driver doesn't work anymore. The error Ta-Wei> log said something like "_IOProbing not found." I guess Ta-Wei> this is some function taken out of DriverKit shared Ta-Wei> library. I have checked miro's BBS but there was not Ta-Wei> upgrade (12:10 AM 12/21/94). I have it run in standard VGA Ta-Wei> mode now (with 4 MB VRAM :-( ). Hate to follow up myself this way. It turns out that I forgot to reconfigure the memory mapping after upgrade the driver. The current 40SV driver works fine with NeXTSTEP 3.3. However, there is a significant performance drop. The NXBench drops from 1.9 to 1.2. Is there a way to tune the driver? -- Ta-Wei "David" Li Computer Engineering and Computer Science University of Southern California. Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel) Subject: Q: Marble Teleconnect 1.1 + NEXTSTEP 3.3? Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:30:13 GMT Message-ID: <3dadq5$284@colossus.PFM-Mainz.DE> Sender: news@news.PFM-Mainz.DE (Owner of the news) ...subject says it all. Any experiences? I simply don't want to give Teleconnect up. -- David Andel (WiNG) @aBlackNeXT
From: ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC Error - Illegal Instruction Date: 22 Dec 1994 01:53:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dam6j$ss2@news.service.uci.edu> References: <3d8ou0$56g@hustle.rahul.net> In article <3d8ou0$56g@hustle.rahul.net>, John McCracken <johnmac@rahul.net> writes: |> I've been having a problem with the evaluation copy of SoftPC 3.0 |> (release 3.00f6) that came with NS3.0. Besides running unbearably |> slow on a 25MHz color slab, it can't run several Windows that I'd |> like to use. An error panel such as the following appears and |> and the application quits: |> |> ______________________________________________________ |> | | |> | Application Error | |> | | |> | APDESIGN caused an illegal instruction in module | |> | MNDFRAME.EXE at 0005:004A | |> | | |> | _______ | |> | | Close | | |> | ------- | |> ------------------------------------------------------ |> |> |> Is there a preferences option I need to set or something? Is |> there a newer demo version of SoftPC that doesn't exhibit this |> behavior? |> |> I'd consider buying the program, slow as it is, if I could get |> it to run the software I need to run. |> |> Thanks. |> |> John McCracken |> john@nextdoor.com |> |> |> -- |> John McCracken <johnmac@rahul.net> I understand that the SoftPC for Black hardwares emulates the Intel 80286 cpu. The Windows software you try to use might require a 386 or later cpu's. Unfortunately, Insignia, the SoftPC developer, does not plan to make any upgrade for the Black hardwares :-( Y. Mok ---------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: I don't even speak for myself, what makes you think I speak for anyone else. ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu Department of Physics University of California, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis) Subject: Re: SoftPC Error - Illegal Instruction Message-ID: <1994Dec21.210555.13996@atd.rochester.ny.us> References: <3d8ou0$56g@hustle.rahul.net> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 21:05:55 GMT John McCracken (johnmac@rahul.net) wrote: : I've been having a problem with the evaluation copy of SoftPC 3.0 : (release 3.00f6) that came with NS3.0. Besides running unbearably : slow on a 25MHz color slab, it can't run several Windows that I'd : like to use. ............. : I'd consider buying the program, slow as it is, if I could get : it to run the software I need to run. Why don't you buy a cheap used AT clone instead? It probably costs less and definitely works better. I still remember the original SoftPC on next ... It had readme files in WriteNow format, with imbedded pictures. The file is really a directory with several files in it, ... with long mixed-case names. They shipped on a PC format floppy that chopped the names. Double-click on read-me. ... oops. What it can't do in fact it does in spirit.
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 for NS3.2 Date: 22 Dec 1994 06:33:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3db6k3$7ad@news.service.uci.edu> I just got an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and I would like to use it with NS 3.2. Does anyone know if the NS3.3 driver for this card can be used under NS3.2? If yes could anyone send the driver to me? (I would prefer to wait for the academic bundle of 3.3 before I upgrade). Thanks very much. Please send me email at sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu (NeXT mail is OK) -- Thanasis Sideris Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu down? Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <D173MD.16C@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 04:39:49 GMT References: <9412171813.AA20288@alleg.EDU> <3cvogi$quu@digifix.digifix.com> Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it. In article <3cvogi$quu@digifix.digifix.com>, Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: >Teej writes >> > What gives with ftp.cs.orst.edu - I haven't been able to >> > get to it for two days. Is anyone home? > I there there is some odd network problems at orst... is been really >sporatic this week. I would guess that they are doing some renovations over the break. It is orst.EDU... -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: 22 Dec 1994 07:51:42 GMT Organization: UCLA Dept. of Math, UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research Message-ID: <3dbb6e$8i4@saba.info.ucla.edu> References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> In article <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) writes: >What? How does marketing slow down product cycles? How does a product >get 2 years behind schedule? How can Gates state Chicago will be out >by year end '94 and miss his mark by ~8 months? Well, MS wants to create large markets for their products, and it takes a while to create new demand in the market place. Also, I lump in customer support with marketing---i.e. they have to have support services in place as well. As for the schedule slips, they blame those on hardware and software compatability problems, which is easy to believe. > NeXT's impact on MS would be roughly that of a misquito on > an M-1 tank. > >A million seats of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep before Cairo ships means more >than a misquito. > Does it? There are already nearly a million NT seats out there. Before there are a million NS/OS seats out there, I bet there will be 3 million NT seats. >MS is dead in the water with Windows 95 due 8 months >from now, Cairo beta due out in 3rd quarter (release might hit '96). Oh, really? The latest article in the SJ Mercury news said that MS was not too concerned about the slip, since they have no competiton for OS's in the near future anyway. Boy, they are quaking in their boots :-) And the Pentium debacle plays right into their hands---every one is willing to cut them slack to produce a quality product, rather than have another pentium scenario (ship defective product). So MS has loads of good will to burn before folks will start to look elsewhere. >MS has no plans to put 95's UI onto NT until Cairo. Not true. It has recently been reported in the rags that they will add the GUI to NT 3 months after they release Win95, as a free add on---precisely to take the time pressure of Cairo. They aren't stupid! >$9 billion will >keep MS around through '98 but they won't still have control come end >of '96. > > -sylvan Are you taking bets on that? Figures published today show that MS grossed nearly 1/2 of all the money spent on US produced commercial software last year, and that their gross increased by more than the total market did over the previosu year---so they are consuming the market at a rapid pace. They also predict $10^9 from the first yearof release on Windows 95. In short, you have MS with a powerful base, momentum in the market, and a massive new piece of software coming next year---and this spells doom in your eyes? -- Barry Merriman UCLA Dept. of Math UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet) barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail)
From: macdman2@aol.com (Mac D Man2) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: 21 Dec 1994 23:42:59 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3db04j$bc0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <1994Dec21.210217.4981@il.us.swissbank.com> it's simple actually NeXTstep needs to be on a technology that works and get back to it's ideas in the first place. There Ideas wasn't wrong just the implentation. NeXtstep needs to be on the PowerPC. where the power of it can actually be seen This way in 95 it is on the shelf next to MacOS, OS/2, Windows, NeXTstep, Taligent. Everthing all the other os vendors are trying to do NeXTstep already has. In addition it will run on both Pentium & PowerPC now people can actually SEE the benefits of an advanced OS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Guehrs Subject: ATTENTION: mix DOES NOT WORK WITH NEXTSTEP 3.3 Message-ID: <D17JBF.Dqp@ilink.de> Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 10:18:50 GMT +++ i.link news flash +++ To all mix customers, NeXT starts shipping the new system software release NEXTSTEP 3.3. Due to internal changes to the system kernel, none of the current mix software versions (2.0 - 2.03) will work under NEXTSTEP 3.3. IN PARTICULAR, HAVING mix INSTALLED UNDER NEXTSTEP 3.3 WILL CAUSE THE COMPUTER TO HANG DURING REBOOT. Our engineers are currently working to adapt mix to NEXTSTEP 3.3 in order to create an upgrade (mix 2.04) that will solve the problem. We will make this update available via ftp. OUR SUGGESTION TO ALL mix USERS: Do not upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.3 before the mix 2.04 update is available. Customers already having installed NEXTSTEP 3.3 will have to deinstall mix or revert to NEXTSTEP 3.2. Sincerely, Piers Uso Walter i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need to rotate some .ps files. Date: 22 Dec 1994 02:53:34 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <3dapne$jdp@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <3d7hco$p4f@booch.legent.com> Keywords: WriteUp postscript rotation John, You don't need a utility. You can simply edit the postscript file itself. A one-line command at the beginning of the file (after the headers -- i.e., after the lines that begin with percent signs) will rotate, scale, and/or move the image any way you want. The rotations all occur around the origin, which, by default, is the lower left corner of the page. So, to achieve the effect of a rotation around the middle of the page, you must both rotate and translate (move) the image. For example, the command: [0 -1 1 0 0 792] concat will rotate the image on a letter-size sheet 90 degrees clocwise. The first four numbers in the brackets (an array, in postscript notation) specify the rotation (the rotation will be x degrees, with no change in size or aspect ratio if those numbers are cos x, sin x, -sin x, and cos x -- note that clockwise is negative rotation, and cos -90 deg is zero). The last two numbers specify the translation (in points -- the default units). An image rotated 90 degrees clockwise around the lower left corner of the page will end up sideways just below the bottom edge of the page. So it needs to be raised back up onto the paper. The first number gives the horizontal translation (namely, none), while the second number moves the image up 792 points (11 inches). You can change these numbers at will to put the image where you want it. To rotate the image 90 degrees counterclockwise (positive rotation), you need first to rotate it, and then to translate it to the right either 11 or 8.5 inches (depending on whether you want the top or the bottom 8.5 inches to remain on the page). For instance: [0 1 -1 0 792 0] concat will effect a 90 degree counterclockwise rotation with the upper 8.5 inches of the original image located on the lower 8.5 inches of the new page. (The top 2.5 inches of the new page are blank, and the bottom 2.5 inches of the old image are lost off the right edge of the paper.) If you want to rotate around the middle of the page, use the numbers -90, 702 for clockwise rotation, 702, 90 for counterclockwise. Try it -- it's easy and fun. John In article <3d7hco$p4f@booch.legent.com>, John Randolph <jcr@sv.legent.com> wrote: >I have .ps files of my application's menus that I generated with the save >button on the print panel of IB. IB second-guessed my page layout, and now a >number of them are rotated 90 degrees. > >I need to rotate them back to portrait mode, so that I can paste them into a >WriteUp document. Is there a util like psnup that will do this?
From: charlie@heinz.com (Carlos M.Navarro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on SW for printing on Color Ink Jet Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 20:59:31 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec21.205931.3863@heinz.com> References: <3d7pqd$eq6@maple.enet.net> Organization: F. HEINZ Consultora Sender: usenet@heinz.com In article <3d7pqd$eq6@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: > In article <3d7kio$ouk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tec@alumni.caltech.edu > (Timothy E. Cushing) writes: > > We have an hp PaintJet printer, and I didn't see support for that > > listed. I've talked to Dots, and they aren't sure that it will all > > work with a PaintJet (this was a year ago). > > > > Does anybody have info on driving a PaintJet? > > I see there's a driver for a HP Paintjet XL 300 in NS 3.3 for 80x86. > DOn't have one so I can't say it works. > > BTW, how do you get rid of printers in Print Manager? I have one that is > a remnant from 3.2 and I can't get rid of it (since it won't work anymore) NS 3.3 supports the HP Paintjet XL 300 only together with the PostScript option. Dots, on the other hand, supports it in native mode (and that's official). Carlos Navarro DISCLAIMER: I've been in charge of Dots development lately, and I sort of like it.
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: so what exactly is EOF anyway Date: 22 Dec 1994 15:55:51 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3dc7i7$k2o@news.bu.edu> Please pardon what is perhaps a stupid or very obvious question, but... I just downloaded a program called Spiderwoman, which gave me a message that it won't work because of some missing library(ies) which I think are found in something called EOF. What exactly IS this EOF stuff, where would I get a copy of it and for how much money (.edu prices if available) and why dlid the author(s) of this .app make it require these particular libraries? This is the first piece of software I've ever used that seemed to need this stuff, so I'm wondering, and a little confused. Thanks! bbry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) In-Reply-To: barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu's message of 21 Dec 1994 20:24:19 GMT Message-ID: <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> Sender: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 04:12:25 GMT In article <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes: > MicroSoft will own the commercial GUI and OS market for a long time > (basically forever, by computer time scales). Barry, did you also predict IBM would rule forever? This industry has shown that dominant companies fall, especially when they can no longer react to a changing world. "Where do you want to go today" has become "Where do you want to go tommorrow (*)." You admit that MS is stuck and yet you predict ownership of a market forever; I personally hope MS doesn't keep this industry stuck in muck for much longer. In article <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com (Steven W Schuldt) writes: >What does Microsoft really have besides some press people in >it's pocket, Windbloze, Office and 9 billion bucks? they finally have (ii) The creator of the Mach OS and also the best practical OS designer in the world on their payroll (presently working on Cairo)---so they aren;t lacking for brains and talent This is what $9 billion buys. A friend once said if you want to change the world, work for the one that controls the world; he now works for MS. >Who other than NeXT has the software technology to fight Microsoft? I think you are mistaken in assuming NeXT has a big technology advantage over MS; MS have access to pretty much the same Technology as NeXT---they just can't deploy it as rapidly because of marketing and backwards compatability issues. What? How does marketing slow down product cycles? How does a product get 2 years behind schedule? How can Gates state Chicago will be out by year end '94 and miss his mark by ~8 months? >assault on the Empire, I say we go out hitting something big... NeXT's impact on MS would be roughly that of a misquito on an M-1 tank. A million seats of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep before Cairo ships means more than a misquito. (1) I don't see why you fear MS so much; Barry Merriman UCLA Dept. of Math UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet) barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail) Neither do I. MS is dead in the water with Windows 95 due 8 months from now, Cairo beta due out in 3rd quarter (release might hit '96). MS has no plans to put 95's UI onto NT until Cairo. $9 billion will keep MS around through '98 but they won't still have control come end of '96. -sylvan (*) tommorrow is purposefully spelled wrong.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) In-Reply-To: barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu's message of 21 Dec 1994 20:24:19 GMT Message-ID: <SYLVAN.94Dec21231352@world.std.com> Sender: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 04:13:52 GMT But during the past 5 years they have shown a real effort to bring the new technology to the market, as demonstrated by their in house development of an entirely new operating system (NT, which they spent about $150M on), and the complete redesign of their GUI (-> Windows95). NT stands for New Technology, but I don't understand. Microkernal, SMP, 32 bit, pre-emptive multitasking,... what am I missing that I haven't seen before? What is new? NEXTSTEP had all this (except SMP 5 years ago). I remember arguing that multitasking was unnecessary and that 32 bit was pointless overkill, yet when MS brings it to market suddenly everybody needs their new technology (BTW not even MS sold NT very well - albeit better than MS). Realistically, MS is doing much more to bring the modern technology to market than NeXT is. Barry Merriman UCLA Dept. of Math UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet) barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail) Modern Technolgy? Would that be Win32 support? What market are you analysing? NeXT brought a UI that hid UNIX from users 5 years ago. 5 years ago NeXT was using Mach (part of OSF/1, OS/2 for PPC, and arguably NT). Thinking about what NeXT will be shipping in '95 (OpenStep and 4.0's new dev environment), I hope you realistically don't think MS is doing much more than marketing to the brain washed. A good example of modern technology is PDO, thats _portable_ objects running on 5 OSes, linking objects over networks or locally; a dream for some. MS will be shipping this kind of stuff with Distributed OLE 3-4 years after NeXT. NeXT brings technology to market, MS just follows behind stealing the best minds of this industry and sticking them in mud so nothing gets done. -sylvan
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC with Windows? Date: 22 Dec 1994 17:40:43 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3dcdmr$r0b@potogold.rmii.com> References: <MAGNAN.94Dec16183556@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> In article <MAGNAN.94Dec16183556@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes: : :I have a demo of SoftPC on my NS3.2 CD. How can I start Windows in it? :The help refers to a manual page that I don't have. : :Thanks, Francois, The demo version of SoftPC that comes with NEXTSTEP v. 3.2 already has MS-Windows installed with it. All you need to do after installing it is select the Windows Disk option after launching in demo mode, then typing win or win f (full screen mode). FYI, SoftPC 4.0 is now available ($299 from OpenSource) and it is more stable than the demo version on your disk. Also, 4.0 supports many popular enhanced mode applications for Windows. Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: rod@netb82.bah.com (Roderick H. Durham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Are there new FAX drivers in NS 3.3 Date: 22 Dec 1994 13:28:05 GMT Organization: Booz-Allen & Hamillton Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dbut5$d13@booz.bah.com> Does anybody know? -rod -- Rod Durham (703) 521-1734 Booz Allen & Hamilton 1953 Gallows Road Vienna, VA 22182
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: ensuring there is only ever one app (was Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?)) Message-ID: <941222.003446.5P4.rusnews.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 00:34:46 -0700 References: <9412202001.AA00804@newyork> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada sschuldt@newyork.bozell.com (Steven W Schuldt) writes: > productivity application suite as NeXT's slick "OpenStep Office" or > somesuch and virtually give it away with NEXTSTEP 4.0 purchases. This > now turns NeXT's habitual abuse of third parties into a Microsoft-like > advantage except there are a lot of people willing to compete with ms excel and ms word. how many will compete with NeXT-labeled packages? -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dots with Canon Bubble Jet printers: Experiences? Date: 22 Dec 1994 17:26:43 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3dccsj$qrm@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3d56rj$9i1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> In article <3d56rj$9i1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) writes: :In article <3d533p$c6p@hermes.dna.mci.com>, :Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote: :>Has anybody out there used Dots with the various Bubble Jet printers by :>Canon? I'd like to get rid of my laser printer due to its exceptional :>footprint. :> :>Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of limited interest to the :>rest of netland. : :Actually, please post your responses. The Canon Bubble Jet BJ-200e :got a great review in Byte (if I remember the magazine correctly). :And for ~$225 at Best Buy and Circuit City, it is almost a steal. : FYI, DOTS 3.5.5 is available on NeXT archive sites, so you can try it out in demo mode. If you don't have a BJ-200e yet, then obviously you can't. But if you do, then obviously you can. Obviously I'm rambling. 8^) Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP DeskJets Supported in 3.3? Date: 22 Dec 1994 17:30:53 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3dcd4d$qs5@potogold.rmii.com> References: <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> In article <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: : : :Anyone got their 3.3 bundle yet? Are any HP DeskJet printers (ie. 500C, :550C, 540C, etc) supported? : :Does anybody know if NeXT will sell support for these printers separately? :(Postscript => Dot Matrix support was in 3.1 but was removed for what I :recall was licencing issues with Adobe...) DOTS 3.5.5 from Heinz Consultoria is a printer application that allows you to use all manner of non-postscript laser and dot matrix printers. It definately supports the HP Deskjet 500C and 550C printers. A demo of this product is available from an ftp site near you. If you have any questions, contact us here at OpenSource, as we represent this product. Happy Holidays, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: sun@unity.ncsu.edu (Ying-hsuan Sun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is OmniWeb multilingual? Date: 22 Dec 1994 18:17:50 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <3dcfse$g2o@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> I suppose that applications run under next support the font that run under it, is that right? I install KaiSu font, a chinese font, and use OmniWeb connect to the www site that has chinese character such as sites in taiwan, I can not see any chinese character. KaiSu font runs fine with telnet session under terminal though. What can be the problem? -- Ying-hsuan Sun
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 for black hardware ? Date: 22 Dec 1994 18:37:19 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dch0v$c4a@solaris.cc.vt.edu> My advisor just told me that he tried to order NeXTstep 3.3 upgrade for Motorola and was told that NeXT does not know yet if they are going to ship 3.3 for Motorola at all. He also was told that 3.2 is no longer available for black hardware. Any comments ? Maybe from someone who installed 3.3 on black and proves the above false. -- Andreas Obst Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics Virginia Tech obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 for black hardware ? Date: 22 Dec 1994 18:55:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3dci2v$682@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3dch0v$c4a@solaris.cc.vt.edu> obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) writes: >My advisor just told me that he tried to order >NeXTstep 3.3 upgrade for Motorola and was told that >NeXT does not know yet if they are going to ship >3.3 for Motorola at all. He also was told that >3.2 is no longer available for black hardware. >Any comments ? Maybe from someone who installed >3.3 on black and proves the above false. Umm, your advisor is in error. I installed 3.3 for NeXT hardware on\ my NeXTdimension Cube two days ago. -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: borow@enigma.seanet.com (Scott W. Borow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3 Date: 22 Dec 1994 05:31:27 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <3db2vf$rk5@kaleka.seanet.com> References: <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> In article <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III) writes: > We have received dozens of phone calls and emails over the past week, now > that 3.3 is shipping, asking us if our NCR driver is ready for 3.3. This > included a couple of callers who wanted assurances that the driver has > been thoroughly beta tested. [...] > > Sincerely, > > Steve Sarich > Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation > steve@talus.com > Voice: 713-578-1434 > Fax: 713-578-1815 > Has anyone else tried running the Talus NCR driver with 3.3? I installed 3.3 this weekend on my XL560 and haven't had problems yet running with the NCR53C810 device driver v1.01 rev074. Am I living dangerously? (A serious question) Other 3.3 musings: The 3.3 serial driver appears to work for my SLIP connection at 57600, but I can't really say how well. I do get a lot of "ttyscc0: receive error 2" messages and I haven't done any performance testing to compare it with Mux yet. Transys PNI 1.13 complains about pnicontrol: Unknown function add-multicast when starting, but appears to work ok for that session, but if the connection goes down for any reason, pnirun will not start properly until after a reboot. I do have some cautions about using Upgrader.app to upgrade to 3.3. The PostProcess script will fail with a if statement syntax error if you try to load NeXTTex at upgrade time. (Yes, I read the release addendum, but quickly forgot it when I went to install). I also discovered if you reboot at this point you will find yourself faced with the 3.3 full installation program instead of your normal desktop (oops). The solution, for me anyways, was to execute the last few lines of the PostProcess script from single user. I also discovered you can patch the PostProcess script so it doesn't get the if statement error by changing the following: from: if ( -f ${newbom} ) then to: if ( -f"${newbom}" ) then Well, I'm normally a lurker, but I'd thought I'd take a chance and post a reply since someone may find this useful. Feel free to confirm or deny any of the above. -- Scott W. Borow borow@enigma.seanet.com
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 22 Dec 1994 19:49:26 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3dcl86$4ai@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <3dbb6e$8i4@saba.info.ucla.edu> Shouldn't this all go into comp.sys.next.advocacy?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: klein@math205.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (John R. Klein) Subject: Bug in Mail.App ? Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <D18BqJ.Hs@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 20:32:43 GMT Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum We have 3-4 NeXT stations (operating 3.0) here, and the following phenomenon has been recently called to my attention by mail recipients from these machines: When someone uses the Mail.app to send a message from one of the machines, the application has a tendency insert extra blank lines between sentences. For example, the text: 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. would be sent as: 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. If I had at the end of the first and third lines had i n s e r t e d and then d e l e t e d a carriage return. Curiously, (a) my Outgoing mailbox doens't record this alteration, and (b) when I send messages using in Sendmail the problem doesn't occur My questions: (1) Is this a known problem? (2) How does one fix it? Please send me a reply to my e-mail address. Thanx, John R. Klein -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%=E(&AA=F4@,RTT M($YE6%0@<W1A=&EO;G,@*&]P97)A=&EN9R`S+C`I(&AE<F4L(&%N9"!T:&4@ M9F]L;&]W:6YG(%P*<&AE;F]M96YO;B!H87,@8F5E;B!R96-E;G1L>2!C86QL M960@=&\@;7D@871T96YT:6]N(&)Y(&UA:6P@<F5C:7!I96YT<UP*9G)O;2!T M:&5S92!M86-H:6YE<SI<"EP*5VAE;B!S;VUE;VYE('5S97,@=&AE(`I<8B!- M86EL+F%P<`I<8C`@('1O('-E;F0@82!M97-S86=E(&9R;VT@;VYE(&]F('1H M92!M86-H:6YE<RP@=&AE(&%P<&QI8V%T:6]N(&AA<R!A('1E;F1E;F-Y(&EN M<V5R="`*7&(@97AT<F$@8FQA;FL@;&EN97,*7&(P("!B971W965N('-E;G1E M;F-E<RY<"EP*1F]R(&5X86UP;&4L('1H92!T97AT.EP*7`H*7&D@)U1W87,@ M8G)I;&QI9RP@86YD('1H92!S;&ET:'D@=&]V97-<"D1I9"!G>7)E(&%N9"!G M:6UB;&4@:6X@=&AE('=A8F4[7`I!;&P@;6EM<WD@=V5R92!T:&4@8F]R;V=O M=F5S+%P*06YD('1H92!M;VUE(')A=&AS(&]U=&=R86)E+@I<:3`@7`I<"G=O M=6QD(&)E('-E;G0@87,Z7`I<"@I<:2`G5'=A<R!B<FEL;&EG+"!A;F0@=&AE M('-L:71H>2!T;W9E<UP*7`I$:60@9WER92!A;F0@9VEM8FQE(&EN('1H92!W M86)E.UP*06QL(&UI;7-Y('=E<F4@=&AE(&)O<F]G;W9E<RQ<"EP*06YD('1H M92!M;VUE(')A=&AS(&]U=&=R86)E+@I<:3`@7`I<"DEF($D@:&%D(&%T('1H M92!E;F0@;V8@=&AE(&9I<G-T(&%N9"!T:&ER9"!L:6YE<R!H860@7`H*7&(@ M:2!N(',@92!R('0@92!D"EQB,"`@86YD('1H96X@"EQB(&0@92!L(&4@="!E M(&0*7&(P("!A(&-A<G)I86=E(')E='5R;BY<"EP*0W5R:6]U<VQY+"!<"EP* M"BAA*2!M>2!/=71G;VEN9R!M86EL8F]X(&1O96YS)W0@<F5C;W)D('1H:7-< M"F%L=&5R871I;VXL(&%N9"!<"EP*"BAB*2!W:&5N($D@<V5N9"!M97-S86=E M<R!U<VEN9R!I;B!396YD;6%I;%P*=&AE('!R;V)L96T@9&]E<PIN)W0@;V-C M=7)<"EP*37D@<75E<W1I;VYS.EP*7`HH,2D@27,@=&AI<R!A(&MN;W=N('!R M;V)L96T_7`HH,BD@2&]W(&1O97,@;VYE(&9I>"!I=#]<"EP*4&QE87-E('-E M;F0@;64@82!R97!L>2!T;R!M>2!E+6UA:6P@861D<F5S<RY<"EP*5&AA;G@L B7`I*;VAN(%(N($ML96EN"EP*7`I<"EP*7`I<"EP*(`I]"BY< `
From: Randy_Tidd@next.com (Randy Tidd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: so what exactly is EOF anyway Date: 22 Dec 1994 19:50:37 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dclad$k1@rosie.next.com> References: <3dc7i7$k2o@news.bu.edu> In article <3dc7i7$k2o@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > Please pardon what is perhaps a stupid or very obvious > question, but... > What exactly IS this EOF stuff To summarize extrememly briefly, EOF is our new database toolkit that shipped a couple of months ago. The 1.1 release is due to ship early next year. It shipped with a set of new Foundation classes (see below). > why did the author(s) of this .app make it require [the > EOF] libraries? The authors of SpiderWoman.app used the new Foundation classes in their application. The Foundation classes have a new memory management scheme that uses reference counting and "autorelease pools". Basically you can "autorelease" an object to defer it's release until later, usually until the end of the current event. In order for this to work, you need an Application subclass that has support for autorelease pools built into it -- without that, any autoreleased objects basically won't be freed, leading to huge memory leaks. EOF includes an Application subclass called EOApplication that does this for you. Since the SpiderWoman.app authors used autoreleasing, they had to use EOApplication in order for the objects to get freed. This is a problem because the Foundation shlibs are available with 3.3 but the EOF shlibs are sold as a separate product. So because of this one critical feature (autorelease pools), SpiderWoman.app had a dependency on EOF. I wrote a quick example of an Application subclass that provides you with autorelease pool support, it is in NeXTanswer #1722. Note that I will be updating this very soon to incorporate a couple of fixes and features. Randy Tidd I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli) Subject: Re: Is ftp.cs.orst.edu down? References: <9412171813.AA20288@alleg.EDU> <3cvogi$quu@digifix.digifix.com> <D173MD.16C@ns1.nodak.edu> Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:50:52 GMT Message-ID: <D1870s.6t@ritz.mordor.com> In article <D173MD.16C@ns1.nodak.edu>, Chadwick A. Dubuque <cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu> wrote: >In article <3cvogi$quu@digifix.digifix.com>, >Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: >>Teej writes >>> > What gives with ftp.cs.orst.edu - I haven't been able to >>> > get to it for two days. Is anyone home? > >> I there there is some odd network problems at orst... is been really >>sporatic this week. > > I would guess that they are doing some renovations over the break. > It is orst.EDU... > >-- >Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ >North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm> >http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/ Isn't cs.orst.edu also a DOOM ftp site? That would explain the delays, as Doom users outnumber us by a couple orders of magnitude. -steve -- Steven D. Borrelli | finger for pgp public key borrelli@ritz.mordor.com |
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Getting Improv to work in color Date: 23 Dec 1994 01:51:41 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3ddafd$ho@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <3dd4g1$s8@rosie.next.com> Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM writes > Quite a while back, I seem to remember that there was some trickery > you could do to get Improv to work in color. Does anyone remember > the details of this? From: pgraff@next.com (Peter Graffagnino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv and Color Date: 1 Sep 1994 00:03:42 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. In article <CvF8FH.MAq@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) writes: >Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: >: I have seen Improv in color. There is a way to do it, but I do not >: have that information. Can anyone help me? The magic dwrite is: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Bug in Configure.app? Message-ID: <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Fri, 23 Dec 94 02:03:42 GMT I have some reason to suspect that there are some problems with Configure.app. I wonder if this confirms it. Try this: Launch Configure.app from a terminal window using the command /NextAdmin/Configure.app/Configure Now select any device (say Mouse, since everyone has one). Now select "done." Look back in the terminal window. I find the error message Assertion failed: You removed a View from the View hierarchy that had been lockFocus'ed Forgive my stupidity, but is this bad? I have been having a lot of crashes on a machine of mine, and I wonder if this might be part of what is going on. Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: so what exactly is EOF anyway Date: 23 Dec 1994 03:55:06 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ddhmq$d6u@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <D18H1D.81L@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > Randy_Tidd@next.com (Randy Tidd) writes: > > (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > > Please pardon what is perhaps a stupid or very obvious > > > question, but... > > > What exactly IS this EOF stuff > > > > To summarize extrememly briefly, EOF is our new database toolkit > > that shipped a couple of months ago. The 1.1 release is due > > to ship early next year. It shipped with a set of new Foundation > > classes (see below). > > How do simple mortals go about getting EOF, just to be able to > try out SpiderWoman? You can order it from NeXT. However, the point that Randy was making is that soon SpiderWoman won't need EOF (and in fact the web page for SpiderWoman mentions this). So, you can pay for EOF, or you could just wait a little bit and see what the next version of SpiderWoman is like. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Getting Improv to work in color Date: 23 Dec 1994 00:09:37 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3dd4g1$s8@rosie.next.com> Hi All Quite a while back, I seem to remember that there was some trickery you could do to get Improv to work in color. Does anyone remember the details of this? Thanks in advance! -- --------------------------------------------------------- Kenny Leung NeXT Technical Support Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM I do not speak for NeXT. My cat speaks for me.
From: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Warning: SCSI_Inspector.app Date: 23 Dec 1994 05:46:35 GMT Organization: Cornell Theory Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ddo7r$dgt@www.geo.cornell.edu> Several bugs have been discovered in SCSI_Inspector.app (part of the SCSI2 ToolKit) which can result in data loss. Please do not use the 12/07/94 release until I get a chance to fix these problems at the beginning of the new year. Thanks. - Chris Wolf
From: bortfeld@intel3.cube.de (Ulrich Bortfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tripple-fat FSPreferences Date: 15 Dec 1994 13:34:08 GMT Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cpgkg$76@cubenx.cube.de> does anybody know if there is a tripple-fat fspreferences ? if yes, where can I get it ? thanks, ulrich please reply to bortfeld@cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) In-Reply-To: barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu's message of 22 Dec 1994 07:51:42 GMT Message-ID: <SYLVAN.94Dec23004909@world.std.com> Sender: sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> <3dbb6e$8i4@saba.info.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 05:49:09 GMT In article <3dbb6e$8i4@saba.info.ucla.edu> barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes: In article <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) writes: >MS has no plans to put 95's UI onto NT until Cairo. Not true. It has recently been reported in the rags that they will add the GUI to NT 3 months after they release Win95, as a free add on---precisely to take the time pressure of Cairo. They aren't stupid! Barry Merriman UCLA Dept. of Math UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet) barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail) Dec 19th issue of PCweek (I consider this recent and a trade rag) "Despite some working demos in its labs, Microsoft officials last week said the firm will not release an interim version of NT 3.5 running the Windows 95 user interface." page 3. As for MS being stupid. They are ignorant of their own inner workings, causing an inability to predict what product development cycles really are. Stupid would be expecting Windows NT to sell a million seats in its first year. -sylvan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: razor@net23.com (Razor) Subject: WHERE IS DOTS? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 05:51:12 GMT Message-ID: <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net> So where is DOTS? I have a cannon bjc-600e printer I want to use with NS3.2/FIP, and blove@alembic.com ain't answering my mail? Anyone have any info on where to find information and pricing/ordering for DOTS for NeXTSTEP? -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: PPP "cannot determine remote address" Prob Message-ID: <D12My4.7F9@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 18:49:16 GMT Hi there...using PPP2.2 on NEXTSTEP... About 75% of the time we get a "Could not determine remote IP address" error when attempting bring up the PPP link (to commercial Internet provider)... Anybody have any idea what's causing this (transcript follows): Thanks in advance, Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.hookup.net ================== Dec 19 14:37:05 damonc pppd[689]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa .. Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (1500) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ffffffff) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (4492b08) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK. Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0xffffffff> <magic 0x4492b08> <pcomp> <accomp>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 2e de e6 62] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 192.251.166.138> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (45) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: returning Configure-NAK Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 04 49 2b 08] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <addr 192.251.166.138> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (45) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received ADDR Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (0.0.0.0) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: up Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: Could not determine remote IP address Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: down Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP TermReq id=0x2] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP TermAck id=0x2] Dec 19 14:37:23 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 2e de e6 62] Dec 19 14:37:23 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 04 49 2b 08]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: WWW Browser Message-ID: <1994Dec23.061606.18701@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <dlwD11C3w.2B8@netcom.com> <3d4vvo$9ph@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 06:16:06 GMT Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams) writes: : > Georg Tuparev (tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote: : > : Try SpiderWoman and you will fall in love! : > : ;-)) : > : > SpiderWoman requires EOF does it not? and EOF is not FREE is it? : > If it is free please let me know where to get EOF from off of : > the net. : EOF is not free, and is not likely to be free. : The current version of SpiderWoman requires EOF. However, the WWW : page for SpiderWoman suggests that an upcoming version may not : need to have EOF. It probably will require NS-3.3 User, which is : also not free, but it's likely that more users will buy NS-3.3 : for themselves (ie, for reasons other than SpiderWoman) than will : buy EOF for themselves. I've just tried to run SpiderWoman.app on NS3.3 and it didn't work. I got a shared library error ! So what else do you need ! Mail.app was not improved (no reply like other mail programs) ... DarkForest is new, but I had that since years. The icons got uglier ... I'll try to get EOF later ... affordable for for non OF E's ... we'll see. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: ror@netcom.com (Thomas P. Copley) Subject: Full text searching with NEXTSTEP 3.2 Message-ID: <rorD18yHs.5r4@netcom.com> Summary: Full text searching with NEXTSTEP 3.2 Keywords: text search Organization: Arlington Courseware Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 04:44:16 GMT Is there any way to do WAIS-style full text searching with NEXTSTEP 3.2? There seem to be tools for using Digital Librarian in the older versions of NEXTSTEP such as NEXTSTEP 2.0, but the indexing scheme that the new version of NEXTSTEP uses is different, and the tools have not been updated to work with the new version. Is there any way to get new Digital Librarian to work with gopherd? The alternative would be to use freeWAIS, but I have not been able to get this to compile on NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Intel). I've tried both the standard release and the new beta of WAIS. As it stands, I am unable to do any kind of full text searching with gopherd. Any suggestions on what I can do to remedy this situation will be most welcome. TIA Tom -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas P. Copley ror@netcom.com GO-PHER-IT WORKSHOP Arlington Courseware
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: System bnombed! Date: 23 Dec 1994 07:12:38 GMT Organization: SFSC Message-ID: <3ddt96$clr@maple.enet.net> Linked files and one bad drive caused my system's file server to crash. Can anyone tell me what the necessary files are to restore that will make my system run as custom configed again? The system is currently hanging on mount entries, and various add-on programs after the base boot All I can think of right now are: /private/etc/*.* (esp. host*.*, rc.* files) /etc/uucp/*.* /etc/sendmail/*.* Since my e-mail died along with it, please post here (reading/posting on MS-DOS machine)
From: sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu (Athanasios Sideris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: INTEL Plato P5-90 work with IDE Drives? Date: 23 Dec 1994 08:59:16 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3de3h4$i98@news.service.uci.edu> We have got an Intel Plato motherboard ROM 1.00.10.AX1 AMI BIOS (C)1992 P5-90 CPU ATI MACH64 PCI Graphics card Logitec bus mouse Adaptec 1542B SCSI card Quantum Lightenning 540MB IDE drive NEC 510 triple speed CD-ROM Drive We were trying to install NeXTStep 3.2. Everything worked allright until it came to the point: This may take a few minutes ... Nextstepartition base = 92656 Nextstep partition size= 971712 Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 #(it stays there for quite some time) 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 .. /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 14336 offset 0: /prmangled entry (it repeats the above 4 more times) mode = 030700, inum = 47106, fs = /private/tmp/mnta panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc Panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 Kernel panic exception (6,3,1) Waiting for remote debugger connection. (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) We tried to connect an IDE drive that already had NS 3.2 installed and worked fine on a 486DX2-66, but it did not work when connected to the Pentium. It had a system panic which seemed to show errors reading /etc/mach_init We tried connecting the IDE drive on either the enhaced IDE port or the standard IDE port on the motherboard, and we also tried deturbo mode in the bios setup, nothing worked. We also tried to install nextstep to a 1.05GB HP SCSI drive with the same 1542B card, it passed the above point and then the system tried to reboot from the hard drive and wouldn't start. We figured out that this was probably due to the lack of support for >1.GB SCSI drives by the 1542B card (even with the NeXT 154x patched driver). Any ideas will be appreciated. We really want to make it work.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: so what exactly is EOF anyway Message-ID: <D18H1D.81L@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <3dclad$k1@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 22:27:12 GMT In article <3dclad$k1@rosie.next.com> Randy_Tidd@next.com (Randy Tidd) writes: > In article <3dc7i7$k2o@news.bu.edu> bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes: > > > > Please pardon what is perhaps a stupid or very obvious > > question, but... > > What exactly IS this EOF stuff > > To summarize extrememly briefly, EOF is our new database toolkit that > shipped a couple of months ago. The 1.1 release is due to ship early next > year. It shipped with a set of new Foundation classes (see below). How do simple mortals go about getting EOF, just to be able to try out SpiderWoman? Thks! Antoine Gautier
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bug in Configure.app? Date: 23 Dec 1994 12:31:59 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3defvv$scb@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu> Well it seems to me that this message occurs whenever the display postscript is too busy to notice the window close fast enough... I see this message every once in a while (with other applications too) if they're loading the DPS heavily (big panels, lots to redraw), but the system is stable... It is like shutting down a X-Windows system with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, which leaves the X server with a broken pipe and retrying several times -- not a problem. Bottom line: This is not responsible for your system crashes. - Stephan Mantler ----------------------------------------------------- Computer Sciences Lab, Technical University of Vienna email: smantler@cslab.tuwien.ac.at [NeXTmail welcome] In article <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu> mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) writes: > I have some reason to suspect that there are some problems with > Configure.app. I wonder if this confirms it. Try this: Launch > Configure.app from a terminal window using the command > > /NextAdmin/Configure.app/Configure > > Now select any device (say Mouse, since everyone has one). Now select > "done." Look back in the terminal window. I find the error message > > Assertion failed: You removed a View from the View hierarchy that had > been lockFocus'ed > > > Forgive my stupidity, but is this bad? I have been having a lot of > crashes on a machine of mine, and I wonder if this might be part of > what is going on. > > Mike > > -- > ----------------------------------- > Mike Hopkins > mjh@math.mit.edu > -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: NS free softwares for HP-PA Message-ID: <1994Dec23.131835.27107@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <PREVOSTO.94Dec21181532@orion.enstb.enst-bretagne.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 13:18:35 GMT In article <PREVOSTO.94Dec21181532@orion.enstb.enst-bretagne.fr> prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr (Laurent PREVOSTO) writes: > > I'm using a HP-9000/700 running NeXTSTEP 3.2 > But no LocalApps are installed. > So I would like to install useful tools such as GatorFTP, OmniWeb, > ... Look at Munich at 'ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de' and search for files with "NIH" as part of the filename, which means: NeXT/Intel/HPPA. Here's my list from some weeks ago: 932418 Sep 30 16:33 GISO.3.3.NIH.b.tar.gz 686755 Sep 7 17:25 gdb-4.7.NIH.b.tar.gz 961767 Sep 7 18:39 as-1.38.NIH.b.tar.gz 10973706 Sep 4 10:30 cc-NeXT.2.5.8.NIH.ba.tar.gz 668137 Sep 7 18:27 libg++_for_3.2.NIH.ba.tar.gz 8428 Sep 26 06:22 check_nibs.1.0.NIH.b.gz 269322 Oct 22 21:07 HelpFileBuilder.1.0.NIH.b.tar.gz 35043 Nov 3 06:22 check_nibs.1.4.NIH.b.tar.gz 108246 Sep 24 02:18 TabMatrixPalette.0920.NIH.bs.tar.gz 326250 Oct 2 10:28 dbmAdaptor.0.4.NIH.b.tar.gz 1324864 Oct 8 06:32 Jargon.3.1.NIH.bd.tar.gz 56339 Aug 10 16:07 NXMine.NIH.b.tar.gz 58626 Oct 30 15:20 FastSokoban.1.01.NIH.b.tar.gz 136166 Sep 24 01:59 DoomView.1.0.NIH.b.tar.gz 41567 Aug 12 06:33 Kismet.1.1a.NIH.tar.gz 938745 Oct 26 06:29 Solitaire.2.1a.NIH.b.tar.gz 1326639 Sep 30 20:44 OmniImageFilter.3.0.NIH.b.tar.gz 424695 Sep 30 20:24 OmniImage.3.0.1.NIH.b.tar.gz 219185 May 16 14:58 Morph.1.1.NIH.b.tar.gz 42406 May 16 14:59 Motion.0.9b.NIH.b.tar.gz 59795 Sep 30 16:24 Movie.2.51.1.NIH.b.tar.gz 198626 Oct 26 10:26 abSIRDitieS.1.0.NIH.tar.gz 177550 Nov 4 08:42 piXel.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz 388661 Oct 19 19:04 CryptorBundle.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz 803549 Oct 28 10:26 OmniWeb.0.7.5.3.1.NIH.b.tar.gz 800364 Sep 26 21:40 OmniWeb.0.7.5.NIH.b.tar.gz 656322 Sep 28 15:34 Archie.2.18.NIH.b.tar.gz 150559 Oct 9 02:27 Yftp.0.355.NIH.bs.tar.gz 1449207 Nov 4 08:31 SciPlot.3.99.NIH.b.tar.gz 127101 Nov 4 08:45 Nugs.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz 578807 Nov 4 08:50 Dictionary.1.0.NIH.b.tar.gz 120877 Sep 9 17:13 Rosetta.2.1.NIH.b.tar.gz 120729 Jul 30 18:45 Rosetta.2.0.NIH.b.tar.gz 733451 Nov 5 12:12 eText5.0.80.NIH.b.tar.gz 81006 May 4 17:41 Digit.v3.06.NIH.b.tar.gz 17391 Sep 4 06:24 sdformat.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz 525032 Nov 2 09:08 Fiend.1.2.b.NIH.tar.gz 7762 Jun 24 1993 nxfaxsummary.1.0.NIHS.d.tar.gz 20213 Feb 11 06:16 fax.0.22.NIHS.d.tar.gz 395626 Oct 3 06:23 BackManager.1.4.NIH.b.tar.gz 56221 Nov 6 17:17 FastConsole.1.00.NIH.b.tar.gz 184394 Oct 7 06:23 nwbench.NIH.b.tar.gz 32130 Jul 11 16:32 TimeMon.2.2.NIH.b.tar.gz 54674 Oct 2 11:06 play3401.1.3.NIH.bs.tar.gz 350773 Oct 16 15:20 tcsh.6.05.1.NIH.b.gz 9886 Jul 2 06:53 chsh.1.3.NIH.b.tar.gz 344899 May 28 22:27 tcsh.6.04.NIH.b.gz 143663 Oct 5 13:37 Stopwatch.2.5.1.NIH.b.tar.gz I think, you'll find some useful things there ;-) BTW: NewsGrazer isn't available yet (Sniff) but I run it remote on a NS/Intel via OpenSesame. It works great! Bye, Robert. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o ------- _`\<,_ fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: SoftPC with Windows? Message-ID: <1994Dec23.133853.10910@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 94 13:38:53 GMT References: <MAGNAN.94Dec16183556@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> <3dcdmr$r0b@potogold.rmii.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <3dcdmr$r0b@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com writes: >In article <MAGNAN.94Dec16183556@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> >magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes: >: >:I have a demo of SoftPC on my NS3.2 CD. How can I start Windows in it? >:The help refers to a manual page that I don't have. >: > >The demo version of SoftPC that comes with NEXTSTEP v. 3.2 already has >MS-Windows installed with it. All you need to do after installing it is >select the Windows Disk option after launching in demo mode, then typing >win or win f (full screen mode). > Yes, I just tried that the other day. You have a 20 minute demo that takes 18 minutes to fire up WinDoze! Well, not exactly, but it does take a L O N G time and if you think DOS is slow you are in for an unpleasant surprise. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ole Saalmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Signature in Mail Date: 23 Dec 1994 14:17:01 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <3dem4t$iro@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, when writing Mail on the NeXT, my .signature file doesn't get appended. It's there, NewsGrazer just appended it to this document. This is Mail Rel. 3.2 (v100) any ideas? MTIA ole -- ole saalmann - karlsruhe - germany - ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de it's not a bug - it's a feature
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 (was Re: WWW Browser) Date: 23 Dec 1994 15:21:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3deptj$6hk@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Dec23.061606.18701@news.vanderbilt.edu> In article <1994Dec23.061606.18701@news.vanderbilt.edu> katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) writes: > Mail.app was not improved (no reply like other mail programs) ... Seems quite improved to me. MIME support by itself justifies upgrading to 3.3. Using Mail with the free MailHelper service inserts either an rtf or ASCII signature by just pressing Command-. or Command-'. No big deal. > DarkForest is new, but I had that since years. Is anyone able to hear the wonderful sounds DarkForest's Info panel produces? I haven't been able to hear them since 3.0 because of some sort of problem with sound files in /usr/lib/sound. By replacing 4 of these files with their 3.0 versions, DarkForest is no longer mute (this is on black hardware). Am I doing something wrong? --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 (poor video performance) Date: 23 Dec 1994 15:08:25 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3dep59$l8r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> So far, it's looking like 3.3 has absolutely rotten video performance. As I've said before, we have a copy of 3.3 installed on a machine with a #9 GXE 64 Pro (formerly one of the fastest cards under NEXTSTEP), and this puppy bites. The P/90 rates at a 0.40 on dragging windows with this card. And this is under 8 bit color, which should be a breeze for this setup (I've NXBenched my #9 card to the tune of numbers over 2.0 when running in 8 bit greyscale, so numbers way lower than 1.0 shouldn't ever happen). Someone else has confirmed that their NXBench score has fallen from 1.78 to 0.98 after they upgraded to 3.3. And, a systems vendor that I've spoken with has also noticed a dramatic loss in video performance. I still do not know if this is limited to: - S3 based cards chips (could be a bad driver). - PCI based cards (could be that the new PCI support is bad). - All video cards. Apparently this slipped through NeXT without anyone noticing. In any event, the billing of 3.3 as a leaner-meaner release, with "drivers, drivers, drivers" isn't accurate. So far, it's looking slower, and the focus on drivers has yeilded poor PCI SCSI support (one PCI SCSI driver, which doesn't even support fast SCSI) and poor video performance. If you are upgrading now, please make an effort to benchmark your hardware before and after the upgrade. I, for one, am interested in getting to the bottom of this. The only way to do it is by documenting it, and getting the information out there. If it's a problem with a particular driver, then maybe there's some hope of somebody fixing it. Hmmm. Who's got the source? Anyway, I'm off for Christmas. Have a good holiday, and I'll flame you, er..., talk to you all in the new year. - darcy -- "Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em. This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC with Windows? Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:02:46 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3df3c6$jah@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Dec23.133853.10910@investor.pgh.pa.us> In article <1994Dec23.133853.10910@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: :Yes, I just tried that the other day. You have a 20 minute demo that :takes 18 minutes to fire up WinDoze! Well, not exactly, but it does :take a L O N G time and if you think DOS is slow you are in for an :unpleasant surprise. :-- It is my understanding that the demo SoftPC, when initially installed, will work for 1 month, not 20 minutes. We have definately noticed that fire-up time is longer than other NEXTSTEP apps, but not inordinately long. Also, overall performance is around 80% native speed when we've tried it out (e.g. A 90mhz Pentium system will run Windows in SoftPC 4.0 at the speed of a 66mhz Pentium or better). Cheers, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 for black hardware ? (It is available) Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:37:24 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3df5d4$aps@solaris.cc.vt.edu> This is in reply to my own post asking if 3.3 is available for black hardware. It is. I received E-mail from several people telling me that they already succesfully installed it. Thanks for all the information. -- Andreas Obst Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics Virginia Tech obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu P.S. Please note that my E-mail will be disconnected until January 3rd.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WWW Browser Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:33:34 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3df55v$7pp@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Dec23.061606.18701@news.vanderbilt.edu> katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) writes: > Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: > : The current version of SpiderWoman requires EOF. However, the > : WWW page for SpiderWoman suggests that an upcoming version may > : not need to have EOF. It probably will require NS-3.3 User, > : which is also not free, but it's likely that more users will > : buy NS-3.3 for themselves (ie, for reasons other than > : SpiderWoman) than will buy EOF for themselves. > > I've just tried to run SpiderWoman.app on NS3.3 and it didn't work. > I got a shared library error ! > So what else do you need ! As I stated, above, the current version of SpiderWoman *requires* EOF. As also stated above, there should be a future version of SpiderWoman which will *not* require EOF. It will require NS-3.3 user though. So, all you need to do is wait until January or so for the new version of SpiderWoman to be released. No need to spend money on EOF if all you want is SpiderWoman. > Mail.app was not improved (no reply like other mail programs)... This is a preposterous claim. Mail.app is *much* improved. For my own personal usage, I feel quite comfortable in saying that the improvements to Mail.app are worth at *least* $100 to me, and probably worth more like $150. All I need to do is get about $50 worth of "goodies" from everything else in NS-3.3, and the upgrade will have been worth it to me. And this from a fellow who was not-at-all-happy when the $200 upgrade price was announced. For me, the multicast support will probably be worth enough so I can feel I've gotten my $200 worth. Well, actually, $400 worth, as I've already bought two upgrades (I have four machines running NeXTSTEP, only two of which I plan to upgrade right away). Now I realize that different people might have different opinions of how much the improvements to Mail.app are worth, but to make the comment that Mail.app is not improved is utterly absurd. There may be other things in NS-3.3 to grumble about, but the new Mail.app is great. And no, I don't give a damn about some fool auto-reply function. I haven't seen a mail client yet that formats a reply the way I want it formatted anyway, so what do I care if Mail.app is missing a feature that I don't use (when it exists)? Get TickeServices, which is more generally useful anyway (since it's a service). Seems to me that MIME support by itself is a few orders of magnitude more important than that, and I don't even *care* about the MIME support (well, not yet, at least). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 for black hardware ? Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:57:10 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3df6i6$8u8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3dch0v$c4a@solaris.cc.vt.edu> obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst) writes: > My advisor just told me that he tried to order NeXTstep 3.3 > upgrade for Motorola and was told that NeXT does not know yet if > they are going to ship 3.3 for Motorola at all. He also was told > that 3.2 is no longer available for black hardware. Hmm. Your advisor is probably trying to order 3.3 thru the campus micro store, or some equivalent. I wonder if there's some indecision over what to do about the *educational* bundles, wrt NS-3.3. NS-3.3 itself certainly exists for black hardware, but there is no special educational price for it. You have to call NeXT directly. > Any comments ? Maybe from someone who installed 3.3 on black and > proves the above false. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Signature in Mail Date: 23 Dec 1994 19:04:21 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec23190421@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3dem4t$iro@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> To: ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de In-reply-to: ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de's message of 23 Dec 1994 14:17:01 GMT <ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: >Hi, >when writing Mail on the NeXT, my .signature file doesn't get appended. >It's there, NewsGrazer just appended it to this document. >This is Mail Rel. 3.2 (v100) >any ideas? >MTIA >ole >-- >ole saalmann - karlsruhe - germany - ole@ifib1.ifib.uni-karlsruhe.de > it's not a bug - it's a feature Mail.app doesn't look for a .signature file. Go get Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities and get the script he has that will do what you want. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages) und files in /usr/lib/sound. By replacing 4 of these >files with their 3.0 versions, DarkForest is no longer mute (this is on >black hardware). Am I doing something wrong? >--- >Art Isbell Cubic Solutions >NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting >NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 >USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 On this note can somebody try putting in attachments and then removing them from a compose window? This crashed Mail.app for me. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP DeskJets Supported in 3.3? Date: 23 Dec 1994 16:45:05 GMT Organization: Filtronix Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3deuqh$6v@filtronix.eunet.be> References: <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> In article <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > Anyone got their 3.3 bundle yet? Are any HP DeskJet printers (ie. > 500C, 550C, 540C, etc) supported? Simply use GhostScript (latest 3.12). It works fine with NeXTSTEP and my Deskjet 520... Filip
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on SW for printing on Color Ink Jet Date: 23 Dec 1994 16:47:38 GMT Organization: Filtronix Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3deuva$70@filtronix.eunet.be> References: <3d7pqd$eq6@maple.enet.net> In article <3d7pqd$eq6@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: > In article <3d7kio$ouk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tec@alumni.caltech.edu > BTW, how do you get rid of printers in Print Manager? I have one that > is a remnant from 3.2 and I can't get rid of it (since it won't work > anymore) Delete it from the NetInfo database using NetInfoManager.app ... Filip
From: mra@mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MANDELBROT.APP SOURCE CODE Date: 23 Dec 1994 20:58:44 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3dfdm4$o67@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> if anyone knows where or how how i could get the source code to the standard next demo "mandelbrot.app," could they email me the information? i am intrested in modifying it for arbitrary precision arithmetic, so that i can zoom in to features as much as i please. currently the program is limited to several zooms due to machine precision. thanks alot. if the program is proprietary, i would not mind giving rights to next (or whomever owns the program) on the modifications.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT? Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 21:19:48 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Message-ID: <941223211948.722AACUX.malc@white> References: <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> <3c4jat$ing@bilbo.suite.com> <1994Dec9.091049.21975@proximus.north.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: MULTIPART/alternative; BOUNDARY="8768164-2136913146-788217587:#722" --8768164-2136913146-788217587:#722 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII >In article <3bi861$9gi@Mercury.mcs.com> ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev) writes: >> Hey, does anyone have a threaded news reader for NeXT (commercial >> of shareware)? Any leads will be appreciated. >> Well... [a file named eloquentThreads.tiff was included here] ...and this is just the Viewer..! It's about to go beta, but I've been using the alpha version for about a fortnight now (thanks Wes and Cheri!) and it's sufficiently stable for everyday use. Of course it also reads and sorts e-mail, searches through contents of mailboxes (Mail.app 3.3 does this too, though, I think) etc. etc. The new version should be more straightforward to set up on a network too. Highly recommended. ... take advantage of that special offer while you can! 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It's about to go beta, but I've been using the alpha version for about a fortnight now (thanks Wes and Cheri!) and it's sufficiently stable for everyday use. Of course it also reads and sorts e-mail, searches through contents of mailboxes (Mail.app 3.3 does this too, though, I think) etc. etc. The new version should be more straightforward to set up on a network too. Highly recommended. ... take advantage of that special offer while you can! Have fun, mmalc. posn. research facilitator where institute for language speech and hearing sheffield university c/o department of computer science regent court 211 portobello street sheffield s1 4dp england vox (+44) 114 282 5594 fax (+44) 114 278 0972 email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome Micro$oft mail at a push <fixed></fixed> --8768164-675135804-788217587:#722-- --8768164-2136913146-788217587:#722--
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: DO NOT READ: "Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT?" Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 21:50:46 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Message-ID: <941223215046.722AACUZ.malc@white> References: <941221222929.233AACUG.malc@white> <3dain2$1eb@rosie.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Poor Malcolm. He's just not having a good year. First he has us spam > Santa, and now this. > And now I just posted a 120K message to csn.software :-((( Aaaargh. I've tried to cancel it, but my most sincere apologies to anone who picks it up: unless you have a newsreader which can read MIME messages, please don't read my reply to my message "Re: Threaded news reader for NeXT?" I chucked in a Grab of the new Eloquent mail/news Viewer, and suddenly wondered how good an idea it was... it turns out the image is quite big :-( If anybody wants to see the piccy please ask. Meantime I'm going away for a rest for a couple of days. I think you need it. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ATI Ultra Pro & Pro Audio 16 Conlict in 3.3 Date: 23 Dec 94 22:41:52 EST Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <1994Dec23.224152.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> I've just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3 (Intel) and am having one configuration problem. Configure.app is reporting a conflict between my ATI Ultra Pro card and my Pro Audio Spectrum card. The Conflicts box sometimes appears, but regardless of its presence, I'm always warned of an unresolved conflict when attempting to save. Here are the details: Display: ATI Ultra Pro Display Adapter (v3.30) 6 bytes at 0x100 2048K at 0x7E00000 832x1120 @ 68Hz RGB:555/16 Audio: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 DMA 7 1 byte at 0x388 IRQ 10 Conflict: Port 0x52ee -> ATI Ultra Pro Display Adapter Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Both cards have worked fine together since release 3.1. Other adapters in the machine are an Adaptec 1542C and a 3Com Combo-ISA. The machine is a Gateway 2000 4/66, 24MB RAM, IDE disks (GJX-30 chipset). I've tried downgrading both drivers with no luck. Is there a fix to this? I'm currently without sound and my complimentary copy of NeXTTIME is not as impressive as a silent movie player :) Please respond with e-mail since the newsserver here is undergoing maintainence and is up and down at the administrators whim. Thanks Scott Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: 3.3 (was Re: WWW Browser) Organization: P & L Systems References: <ROBERT.94Dec23190325@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 23:58:59 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Dec23.235859.7496@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <ROBERT.94Dec23190325@steffi.dircon.co.uk> robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > On this note can somebody try putting in attachments and then removing > them from a compose window? This crashed Mail.app for me. Not for me. Which versions are you talking about, and how removing them? Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: Dirk Vanoucek <dirk@music.en.open.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BTX auf NeXT Date: 13 Dec 1994 09:25:58 GMT Organization: CCG Music Production Message-ID: <3cjpb6$38f@music.en.open.de> Keywords: BTX, Next > Hat jemand Ahnung, ob es mittlerweilen BTX Software fuer > die NeXT gibt, wo > sie zu bekommen ist und wieviel sie kostet ?!? Ich habe das Programm EasyBTX #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!psinntp!news.worldlink.com!usenet From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computers.workstation Subject: WANTED: EOF/Sybase Developer - Financial Engineer Date: 24 Dec 1994 15:43:24 GMT Organization: GCC Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3dhfis$do6@news.worldlink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: worldlink.com X-Newsreader: PSILink for Windows, Version 1.1.9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:8494 comp.sys.next.software:14966 comp.sys.next.hardware:13937 misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone:95806 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:16054 We are a financial engineering upstart interested in programming/development services on a consultancy/part-time basis potentially leading to full-time employment. The core development skills we seek are: ---------------------------------------- NeXTstep v3.2 (Intel & HP) EOF Objective C C/C++ Sybase SQL Server (black or white hardware) The optional development skills we seek are: -------------------------------------------- HP/PA-RISC Microsoft SQL Server Microsoft NT Microsoft Access We do not have a geographical preference. Our concept of corporation does not necessarily include walls; therefore, we are open to arrangements from anywhere in the world. Please send your resume/curriculum vitae to p00378@psilink.com. NeXTMail welcome. Happy Holidays from GCC!
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: elm.pkg installation failed Date: 23 Dec 1994 17:05:41 -0800 Organization: Zach's House Message-ID: <3dfs55$3ds@crl.crl.com> References: <3d67rd$eeg@news.tuwien.ac.at> Well, my install exploded, too. What I did is cd into the package directory and uncompress/untar the files, and then I copied them into the appropriate directories (/usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/man/ etc.). Then you can just lipo everything. Elm seems to work fine. I downloaded the documentation and elmrc file examples from another site. It was a pain in the ass, but much easier than building elm from scratch. I spend about 2 hours trying to do just that, which really drove me crazy. Zach Wilhelm Pitzeier (willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at) wrote: : I tried to install elm24PL23.pkg from ftp.cs.orst.edu, but it didn't work. : I then tried to mail robert@steffi.demon.co.uk, who uploaded it into this : archive, but couldn't reach him. : Has anybody out there successfully installed elm? : What do you use for remote mail reading? : Thanks for any help, : Willi : willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT) : This is my email to Robert somewhere in Britain: : --------------------------------------------------------------- : In ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/comm/elm24PL23.pkg.tar.README : you wrote: : > This is a FAT elm 24 PL 23.... : > comments/suggestions to robert@steffi.demon.co.uk : Just tried to install it. : Here's my Logfile: : ---------------------------------------------------- : Checking permissions for the files in elm.pkg ... : Checking /usr/local/bin/answer ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/arepdaemon ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/autoreply ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/checkalias ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/elm ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/elmalias ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/fastmail ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/filter ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/frm ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/listalias ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/messages ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/newalias ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/newmail ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/printmail ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/readmsg ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/nfrm ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/bin/wnewmail ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.0 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.2 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elm-help.3 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/elmrc-info ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/lib/elm/prlong ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/answer.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/autoreply.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/checkalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/elm.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/elmalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/fastmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/filter.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/frm.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/listalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/messages.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/newalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/newmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/printmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/readmsg.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/cat1/wnewmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/answer.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/autoreply.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/checkalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/elm.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/elmalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/fastmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/filter.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/frm.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/listalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/messages.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/newalias.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/newmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/printmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/readmsg.1 ... OK. : Checking /usr/local/man/man1/wnewmail.1 ... OK. : Checking /NextLibrary/Receipts/elm.pkg ... OK. : .. done. : Installing elm.pkg into / ... : Running installation program ... Missing ]. : **** There were errors while installing elm.pkg. : .. errors. : ----------------------------------------------------------- : So what's wrong? : Is there a cure? : Thanks and Greetings from Vienna, : Willi : willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (ASCII / NeXT)
From: cmorey@MCS.COM (Craig Morey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: qq Date: 24 Dec 1994 15:04:20 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Message-ID: <3di2ck$4as@Mercury.mcs.com> -- \\\// (o o) -ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Morey, CNE , ECNE YES, It runs with Netware! cmorey@mcs.com UNIXWARE Inside! _____________________________________________________________________________
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NEXTIME problems with NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 24 Dec 1994 20:04:29 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3diget$qbl@jujube.cs.umd.edu> I just installed my upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.3. I have an ALR Evolution V (Pentium) with an ATI GUP and PAS-16. The first problem I had with the upgrade is there is the new PAS-16 driver NeXT provides now uses the IO ports 0x9a01-0x9a01, which conflicts with the ATI driver they provide(!). I got around this problem by using the very nice driver ProAudioSpectrumPlus I got from cs.orst.edu. The next problem was that I could not install the NEXTIME sound driver as instructed in in little manual that came with the CD (how come NEXT didn't include a readme with this?). NEXTSTEP 3.3's Configure.app doesn't load this this in the Audio section since the the NEXTIME sound driver is not in the Audio family. However, you can change this easily in the Default.table file. The final problem I had was when trying to load any of the sample movies that came on the NEXTIME disk. I would get the following message on the console: localhost WindowServer[172]: Loading Graphics Package: Error in listener: Errno -2. The image would not load, and the cursor would spin for a few minutes before finally stopping. The strange thing was that the sound worked fine -- just no graphics. I disabled the sound by removing the sound driver to see if this made any difference, but it didn't. Does anyone have a similar system with this problem? Or even better, does anyone have a fix? Thanks, Ross. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next Developer/Molecule program Date: 29 Dec 1994 03:02:38 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dt8se$eno@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: Ozone, CO2, N2O I am looking for information about the Molecule Program in NeXTDeveloper/Demos (NS 3.2). Specifically, I want files for other molecules, especially Ozone, Carbon Dioxide, and Nitrous Oxide (N2O). I would very much appreciate any information on where one might obtain files for these molecules to add to the Molecule Program. An E-mail address for the developers of this program would be very useful in this context. Thanks very much for any help. H. Craig passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: root@oberon (Operator) Subject: IRC for NeXT binary distribution...Where? Message-ID: <D1Jx5q.3wL@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 02:49:02 GMT I am looking for a binary distribution of IRC for NeXT (motorola) machines. I have tried to compile several of the source distributed ones with thier so-called "automated" configuration files and they just don't cut the mustard. (they don't compile with gcc OR cc). Is there a binary only distribution? Where? Please direct responses to e-mail thanks, Gary Wolfe gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
From: louie@va.pubnix.com (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: loading slip and ppp in the kernel together (incest?) Date: 29 Dec 1994 00:07:07 -0500 Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virgina) Message-ID: <3dtg5r$gu@pub01.va.pubnix.com> References: <3drsft$noe@ripcity.ibmoto.com> In article <3drsft$noe@ripcity.ibmoto.com>, Derek Beatty <beatty@ibmoto.com> wrote: > >Is it possible to have both SLIP (Mamakos') and PPP (Perkins') loaded >into the kernel (3.2 black) simultaneously? I don't want to use both >protocols simultaneously, but I would like to switch between them without >rebooting. Would this cause a panic? Would they need to be loaded >in a particular order? Any other gotcha's? TransSys Dial-Up IP uses a line discipline in the kernel to implement SLIP. It uses an undocumented and unsupported kernel interface to do so. Actually, *any* use of line disciplines in kernel loadable drivers is undocumented and unsupported. I'm almost certain that the PPP software also uses a line discipline to do its job; the question is if they both attempt to use the same one! TransSys PNI does not use a line discipline, and only uses documented kernel interfaces (for the most part :-) in its kernel driver. There's probably no reason why it and PPP or TransSys Dial-Up IP for that matter, shouldn't co-exist on the same machine. Louis Mamakos
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: downloading files to a NeXT with 'tip'? Date: 29 Dec 1994 05:48:15 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <3dtiiv$87d@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Keywords: help? I've just bought a NeXT slab, and I'm connecting to our campus network via the UNIX facility 'tip'. But I'm having trouble downloading files. (One of the first I download will be kermit). I added a 19200 baud entry to /etc/remote, and I'm connecting with 'tip fa19200', which uses hardware handshaking. I believe I have the correct NeXT modem cable hooked up to my Supra 144LC. There's a tip command for downloading, which is '~<'. Tip asks me for the file name---okay!---and then asks me for a command to execute on the remote machine. I don't know what sort of command this should be, and the man page doesn't help much. I tried things like 'cat filename' and 'ls filename' and 'filename', but always got empty files back. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? E-mail would be the most helpful for me. Thanks! --David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: downloading files to a NeXT with 'tip'? Date: 29 Dec 1994 05:58:46 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <3dtj6m$atf@news.tamu.edu> References: <3dtiiv$87d@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Keywords: help? In article <3dtiiv$87d@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote: >I've just bought a NeXT slab, and I'm connecting to our campus >network via the UNIX facility 'tip'. But I'm having trouble >downloading files. (One of the first I download will be kermit). > ><deletia> > >There's a tip command for downloading, which is '~<'. Tip asks me >for the file name---okay!---and then asks me for a command to execute >on the remote machine. I don't know what sort of command this should >be, and the man page doesn't help much. I tried things like >'cat filename' and 'ls filename' and 'filename', but always got empty >files back. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >E-mail would be the most helpful for me. tip can not download binary files. Is the file you're trying to grab a text file? (If not, use uuencode to convert it to text before trying to download it with tip.) Yes, the command you'd want to execute on the remote machine would be 'cat filename', but you might want to take a look at the tip 'get' command, which accomplishes essentially the same effect, with what I've always considered a more straightforward syntax (i.e., 'get filename', duh). Good luck :) Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro & Pro Audio 16 Conlict in 3.3 Date: 28 Dec 1994 01:53:25 GMT Organization: Synergy Communication Inc. Message-ID: <3dqgel$4vk@legba.synergy.net> References: <1994Dec23.224152.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu wrote: : I've just upgraded from 3.2 to 3.3 (Intel) and am having one configuration : problem. Configure.app is reporting a conflict between my ATI Ultra Pro card : and my Pro Audio Spectrum card. The Conflicts box sometimes appears, but : regardless of its presence, I'm always warned of an unresolved conflict when : attempting to save. Here are the details: Damn, I am having the same problem. If you get any information on this, please mail it to me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) Subject: where to get a phone answering app? Message-ID: <1994Dec29.114419.9600@mjw.octagon.de> Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 11:44:19 GMT Hi all NeXTers! Somebody told me, there would be a public-domain/shareware program for the NeXT, that would emulate a phone answering machine. I have a ZyXEL U-1496E (so I have no use for mix-parts). Does this really exist - if yes: where to find it, what's the name of it? Thanks for any help! -- Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de --
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next Developer/Molecule program Date: 29 Dec 1994 18:59:44 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dv0v0$t2o@core.symnet.net> References: <3dt8se$eno@network.ucsd.edu> Harmon Craig writes > > I am looking for information about the Molecule Program in > NeXTDeveloper/Demos (NS 3.2). Specifically, I want files for other > molecules, especially Ozone, Carbon Dioxide, and Nitrous Oxide (N2O). > > I would very much appreciate any information on where one > might obtain files for these molecules to add to the Molecule > Program. An E-mail address for the developers of this program would > be very useful in this context. You can generate your by converting PDB or other format files easily enough. The format for the Molecule program is ascii and very simple. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) Subject: Re: Fax Modem setup - advice sought In-Reply-To: tlm@ameslab.gov's message of 28 Dec 1994 22:19:17 GMT Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Dec29143214@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <1994Dec28.213057.2116@rna.nl> <3dso95$pc0@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 19:32:14 GMT >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Marchioro <tlm@ameslab.gov> writes: Tom> Gerben Wierda writes >> Magnan Francois writes > >>>>> "Clyde" == Clyde Rodriguez >> <clyde@euler.Berkeley.EDU> writes: > > Clyde> I'm currently >> using a 2400 baud Everex modem on my NeXT > Clyde> (black) '040 >> running 3.2. I want to purchase a new modem > Clyde> with fax >> capability. Unfortunately, I am clueless about > Clyde> what >> fax modems work well with black hardware, what > Clyde> >> software is needed, etc. I would greatly appreciate > Clyde> >> hearing from anyone currently using a fax modem about their > >> Clyde> configuration and any tips for setting one up. I've >> also > Clyde> been using kermit to communicate with my present >> modem and > Clyde> would like to obtain a good shareware >> communications > Clyde> program. > > To use the fax >> capabilities you will need a modem that supports > class 2. A >> Zyxel would be a good choice. Tom> Another good possibility is the Supra. Probably not quite as Tom> good as a Zyxel (from what I have heard) but mine has worked Tom> perfectly out of the box for dial in/out, SLIP, FAXing (using Tom> DFax) and it also works with NXFax. I've seen them in the Tom> local store for $139, and would guess the mail-order costs Tom> are probably much lower. Tom> Hope this helps --- Tom Be careful with the Supra though. I bought the latest version of their SupraFax 144LC and this modem won't be able to send or receive faxes in NeXTStep. Only CLASS 2 fax modems are supported under NeXTSTEP. Some old v.32bis Supra support class 2 but not the new ones. Francois -- **************************************************** ** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca ** ** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal ** ****************************************************
From: Ted Okada Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 Mail shortcomings? Date: 29 Dec 1994 20:08:06 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Message-ID: <3dv4v6$igd@news.cais.com> Hi. Though MIME is a great feature of 3.3 Mail, I'm scratching my head as to why other 'obvious' functions of a decent mail UA aren't in it such as quoting original message in replies and including signature files (like pine).. The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files using terminal services but we're all stumped on how to do quoted replies. Here's what we tried as a command equivalent using terminal services: fmt 74 79 | sed "s/^/> /" We're accepting plain and rich text and using as 'input.' We've returned output and are using the Fast C-shell. fmt seems to be working when we cat to a file but we're not sure what's happening with the sed statement. It'd be great to be able to use Mail rather than having to shell $'s for Eloquent (although maybe we should to support the cause?). Any sed/C-shell wizards out there with any success? Grateful for any help... Ted Okada Director Washington Bureau Food For The Hungry Int'l \ o / _ o __| \ / |__ o _ \ o / o | /\ __\o \o | o/ o/__ /\ | /|\ ./.\...|.\../).|....(.\../o\../.)....|..(\../.|.../.\.../.\. Ted Okada <ted@cais.com> --- finger ted@cais.com for PGP2.3 public key --- ftp://ftp.fh.org for latest files --- Help Africa's Children--Call Food For The Hungry 1-800-2HUNGER ---
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 33D Sterograms Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:19:30 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvcli$1p2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Does anyone know of any software on any platform (NeXT obviously preferred) that can generate 3D stereograms? You know, the posters in the mall that people stand in front of for about 10 minutes and say "I don't see anything!". Also, does anyone know of any ftp or web sites with sterograms? Thanks. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D Stereograms Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:26:07 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvd1v$1rk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Does anyone know of any software on any platform (NeXT obviously preferred) that can generate 3D stereograms? You know, the posters in the mall that people stand in front of for about 10 minutes and say "I don't see anything!". Also, does anyone know of any ftp or web sites with sterograms? Thanks. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: downloading files to a NeXT with 'tip'? Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:05:16 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dvbqs$o9f@news.iastate.edu> References: <3dtj6m$atf@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench writes > In article <3dtiiv$87d@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, > David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > >I've just bought a NeXT slab, and I'm connecting to our campus > >network via the UNIX facility 'tip'. But I'm having trouble > >downloading files. (One of the first I download will be kermit). > > > ><deletia> > > > >There's a tip command for downloading, which is '~<'. Tip asks me > >for the file name---okay!---and then asks me for a command to execute > >on the remote machine. I don't know what sort of command this should > >be, and the man page doesn't help much. I tried things like > >'cat filename' and 'ls filename' and 'filename', but always got empty > >files back. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > >E-mail would be the most helpful for me. > > tip can not download binary files. Is the file you're trying to grab > a text file? (If not, use uuencode to convert it to text before trying > to download it with tip.) Yes, the command you'd want to execute on the > remote machine would be 'cat filename', but you might want to take a > look at the tip 'get' command, which accomplishes essentially the same > effect, with what I've always considered a more straightforward syntax > (i.e., 'get filename', duh). > good points all Lusty! Another warning to potential "tipsters" is that they should be careful which shell they are running locally and remotely. Certain shells, in particular tcsh, already set aside some of the characters tip uses for "end of transmission". [If memory serves me right this is a control-A, but I switched to SLIP a couple years ago and this is from my diminishing short/medium term memory ;-] Anyway, if you find start finding that the modem connection completely hangs after a file transfer, you are probably running into this problem. The easiest escape from it is simply to switch shells ahead of time before the transfer. That is (and this is again from memory) if you are using tcsh on the remote machine, just execute /bin/csh before executing the "get". Similarly, do the same on the local machine before executing a "put". Tip is really nice for a "free" utility, but borders on the archaic in terms of a communication utility. To paraphrase Dave Barry, "Tip? The **Aztecs** used tip!" :) I suggest going to SLIP ASAP, if possible, or else get the nice zmodem package which Art Isbell was kind enough to put together for NeXT boxes. Hope this helps --- tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D Stereograms Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:29:53 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvd91$21d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Does anyone know of any software on any platform (NeXT obviously preferred) that can generate 3D stereograms? You know, the posters in the mall that people stand in front of for about 10 minutes and say "I don't see anything!". Also, does anyone know of any ftp or web sites with stereograms? Thanks. Mark Adler madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3dvcli$1p2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Control: cancel <3dvcli$1p2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:20:38 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvcnm$1q5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <3dvcli$1p2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: Barre Ludvigsen <borrel@hiof.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Panic - please help - my boot disk has crashed! Date: 29 Dec 1994 23:02:24 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dvf60$hjs@ratatosk.uninett.no> My harddisk has crashed. It has been complaining about "bad media" for a couple of days. I backed up everything yesterday to a DAT tape (hopefully it's there.) Now I'm looking forward to struggling with formatting and putting a system onto a new disk. I have the disk (a 2GB Seagate), I also have an NS 3.1 CD and a CDROM drive. But my original system administration documentation says nothing about booting from a CD and installing a boot hard disk. There's only stuff on a second disk. Could someone _PLEASE_ send me a mail explaining the boot from CD procedure and any advice on how to build the new boot disk? I really do feel quite lost. - Barre Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold College - Halden, Norway <a href="mailto:borrel@hiof.no">borrel@hiof.no</a>
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3dvd1v$1rk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Control: cancel <3dvd1v$1rk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Dec 1994 22:28:03 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvd5j$20s@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <3dvd1v$1rk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <3dvd91$21d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Control: cancel <3dvd91$21d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Dec 1994 23:41:33 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3dvhfd$3gk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <3dvd91$21d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: jdawson@austin.ibm.com (John Dawson) Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id) Message-ID: <D1LJ43.24Dn@austin.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 23:40:51 GMT References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> Organization: The Kernel Group, Inc. In article <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes: >(ii) The creator of the Mach OS and also the best practical OS > designer in the world on their payroll (presently working on > Cairo)---so they aren;t lacking for brains and talent What's this? I thought Mach was Avadis Tevanian's (misspelled), and he works for NeXT now. I thought the braniac Microsoft had was Dave Cutler, who was the principal designer of VMS. ...jkd -- ..jkd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fs@comdev.fdn.fr (Frederic STARK) Subject: Re: Bug in Configure.app? Message-ID: <D1L5Gq.1D4@comdev.fdn.fr> Sender: usenet@comdev.fdn.fr Organization: Communication Developpement. References: <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 18:46:01 GMT In article <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu> mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) writes: [Well,Assertion failed: You removed a View from the View hierarchy that had been lockFocus'ed] Don't panic, this is an Appkit warning. Cannot cause crash of your system. Hope that helps. /* - Frederic STARK fs@comdev.fd.fr NeXTmail accepted - */
From: rsrodger@Glue.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?) Date: 29 Dec 1994 21:59:25 -0500 Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <3dvt2d$oc@convolution.eng.umd.edu> References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> <D1LJ43.24Dn@austin.ibm.com> In article <D1LJ43.24Dn@austin.ibm.com>, John Dawson <jdawson@tkg.com> wrote: >In article <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes: >>(ii) The creator of the Mach OS and also the best practical OS >> designer in the world on their payroll (presently working on >> Cairo)---so they aren;t lacking for brains and talent > >What's this? I thought Mach was Avadis Tevanian's (misspelled), and he >works for NeXT now. > >I thought the braniac Microsoft had was Dave Cutler, who was the >principal designer of VMS. Richard Rashid is at MS as well, with Cutler. I don't think the head of the Cairo project is Rashid. -- "IBM's install program is just fine." [and later:] "I will say it again: The install program is fine. But OS/2 just won't run on some pieces of hardware." -Steve Withers, IBM employee, explaining the problems that even faithful OS/2 users are having installing OS/2 3.0,
From: mow@marsu.pilhuhn.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance) -- not here Date: 29 Dec 1994 14:53:25 +0100 Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <3duf0l$ae@marsu.pilhuhn.de> References: <3dep59$l8r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3dsvrn$cqb@ccnet3.ccnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thompson@ccnet.com (Eric Thompson) writes: >On an Intel GX/Pro with 32mb of RAM and the integrated ATI video card, >I ran NXBench and Benchpress under both 3.2 and 3.3. They came up with >nearly identical results (for everything, not just video. But they're >using internal IDE not SCSI). This indicates that the slowdown only occurs with PCI cards, if local bus cards are not affected. -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting mail? // mow@marsu.pilhuhn.de (New!) more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: SUBMISSION: UNIX-HatersTool v0.1 Message-ID: <D1JqpM.xz@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 00:29:46 GMT Release 0.1, 30.12.1994 by Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) The UNIX-Haters Tool Submitted to: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fronte nds ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions Might migrate to other places..sorry. ATTENTION..you need gnutar and gzip to unpack this package. With this tool you might be able to keep your hands from the Terminal application for another bunch of ever returning tasks. It was inspired by Simson Garfinkels new book called the UNIX-HATERS Handbook (IDG Book), the great MiscShell object from Steve Hayman and the TabMatrix palette from Bill Edney, Mark R. Onyschuk and Sean Hill. The functionality is kind of limited but still I find it very useful every day. It was designed to ease my work. So it might need some customization fit your needs. What it does Once you have started this application you should go straight to Paradise. In that window you can use the Tabmatrix to select the tool you need. Currently there is no easy way to extend the application. Still it is very simple to open the NIB inside InterfaceBuilder and add some more shell-tools. More on customization can be found below. The Package Version 0.1 comes in a package that includes: - UNIX-HatersTool.app. A FAT binary for NeXT and Intel hardware - Online Help...minimal - Full Sourcecode - A beta version of the MiscSwapKit palette. You need it to be able to open the main NIB. Don't use it otherwise, unless you don't care if the final version is incompatible ! - This Documentation and a ASCII version (README) of this Introduction On where to find the latest releases please see the 'About this Project' section. Features Currently there are only very simple things this application will do for you. After all it was just created by drag&drop inside InterfaceBuilder. And that within a very short period of time (3 days). The single tools will give you easy access to some features of: ps, kill, df, uucico, uustat, pppup, pppdown, newsrun, sendbatches ...plus showing some log files The uucico and ppp section will need some changes to meet your private needs (like the name of the site to poll etc. pp). I know that there might be a nicer ways to customize that whole application but it was mainly written for private use. Sorry about that. Ask your local guru if you can't put it the way you need it...or drop me a mail. Some features require that you are either root or the application is setuid to root. Always keep in mind that this is just a frontend to UNIX. It won't make UNIX any nicer. Future plans Here are the most wanted improvements form my ToDo-list. More can be found in the online help. - Loading the tools from bundles. Well quite easy but it needs some time until the MiscFile stuff is solid. - More tools...like truncating all those system logs. - Make it smaller. I don't really know why the application is so big. All I do is link some libraries into a no-brainer application. I guess there is a lot of useless code in there. Future versions should either have bundles or be smaller. About this Project I will try to keep improvements rolling in, but don't expect new versions to come out every month. There are other projects I want to spend more time with then this one. The latest version of this server will be available at the ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de or ftp.cs.orst.edu anonymous ftp servers. Soon there will be a WWW page were you can find out more about the status of this...and all the other projects im working on. Compiling This version includes all the source code necessary to recompile the program from scratch. It does not come with all the libraries! You will need to get the MiscKit project (Version 1.2.8 or higher) and the TabMatrixPalette from the archives. For more details on the MiscKit collection see the common NeXT ftp servers or get the Objective-C or NeXT FAQs. If you would like to submit something to this collection you should contact: Don Yacktman <don@darth.byu.edu> Don't use the MiscSwapKit.palette provided with this application. It is a beta hack an might change until in makes it into the final version. Don't blame me if it might be incompatible. In Case of Trouble If you have any questions you can contact me. Thomas Engel Netpunstr. 9 D-90522 Oberasbach Germany E-mail: tsengel@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org Warrenty and copyright Copyleft Source code that is not part of the MiscKit project - and therefore underlies the MiscKit distribution and copyright rules - is distributed under the GNUpublic license. You are free to extend and modify this application. But don't redistribute a modified version under the same name unless I gave you the permission. I don't want to have different, confusingly incompatible versions running around the world. Anyway..it is highly recommended that you customize the application according to your needs. No Warrenty This software is provided 'as is' and the programmer is not responsible for any harm this program may cause. You - the user - are responsible for everything that may happen to your business, hardware, software, car, CD collection or what ever may be worth your attention or money. The use of this product is at your own risk and your private fun. There should be no serious bugs inside but remember that a carbon-based unit did the coding. TravelWare Like all my projects this app is free and should be considered as travel-ware. - Let it travel to as many people you know. - Send me a postcard or E-mail if you use it. I will try to keep you informed about new releases. - If you have a free bed or some free space on your floor give me a hint. I might come and visit you on my trip to the US (locations on Hawaii, near Seattle or WhistlerMnt. preferred) Enjoy it. Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach Germany
From: r.lacelle@phoenix.ca (Richard Lacelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wais indexing under NS/FIP 3.2 Date: 30 Dec 1994 15:20:30 GMT Organization: Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc Message-ID: <3e18fu$fmh@nic.ott.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi All, I have been trying to compile freeWAIS3.0 under NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel without success. I have been getting several variable errors and unfound definitions(or something to that effect). I am trying to compile it to run with gopher2.1 from U of M. Has anyone gotten a WAIS indexer to run under NS/FIP? If so, which one was it and could you send me your makefile and/or a binary version. Thanks, A Lot Richard Lacelle Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc. r.lacelle@phoenix.ca (NeXTMAIL Accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley) Subject: Q: Mac files Message-ID: <D1MuLI.8C0@indirect.com> Sender: usenet@indirect.com (Darin Wayrynen) Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:46:30 GMT One last question (for a while and so far...) I have been trying to convert a polish font from Mac and from a PC (BIG HINT: If anyone has a polish font on a mac, could we get together?) and the troubles are that I can't get the Mac files into a usable file for NeXT. The Mac fonts are split into 3 files with .data .info and .rsrc extensions. I have a program called ResDemp and one called MacinDisk, but I can't get either one to recognize these files. I figure that SOMEONE out there has dealt with such files and could help me get the fonts into a single binary file that ConvertFont or MacVert can change into NeXT format. I figure that it may involve editing the .data file, cutting out some header stuff, and so forth. I have a hex editor and am not afraid to do this, if someone could guide me through it. About the PC fonts. They are .ttf format. I have acquired a file caled ttf2ps.c . I haven't compiled it yet, but I'm not really sure it's what I want. Has anyone converted .ttf fonts to PostScript? If so, what did you use. I was wondering if Windows has an app that will do this? Thanks for all your help. I'm rather new to this NeXT World (at least to owning my own NeXT). I appreciate all the help so far! Jeff
From: andrea.borroni@galactica.it (ANDREA BORRONI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DROP Message-ID: <8A0A3A2.0784000356.uuout@galactica.it> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 15:30:00 +0100 Distribution: world Organization: GALACTICA PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION - ++39-2-29.00.61.50 DROP
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: what's with OmniWeb ?? Date: 30 Dec 1994 18:48:21 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> I went to lauch OmniWeb yesterday and I get this panel saying: "This is an old version of OmniWeb. There is almost certainly a newer version available from Omni's ftp site, ftp.omnigroup.com. Please get the newer verion and delete this version" What ??? I'm running a recent version I got just a few weeks (maybe a couple months, I dunno) ago, and unless they've embedded code to "expire" my version (not sure which it is), I can't see why this is happening. What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is unreachable. anyone know what's up ?? -tom darker_wave < /home/tmeyer > % ftp ftp.omnigroup.com ftp.omnigroup.com: unknown host ftp> darker_wave < /home/tmeyer > % ftp omnigroup.com ftp: connect: Host is unreachable ftp>
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: what's with OmniWeb ?? Date: 30 Dec 1994 19:02:26 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <3e1lg2$dmb@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> In article <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com>, Tom Meyer <tmeyer@mcs.com> wrote: >I went to lauch OmniWeb yesterday and I get this panel saying: > >"This is an old version of OmniWeb. There is almost certainly a newer >version available from Omni's ftp site, ftp.omnigroup.com. Please get the >newer verion and delete this version" > >What ??? I'm running a recent version I got just a few weeks (maybe a >couple months, I dunno) ago, and unless they've embedded code to "expire" >my version (not sure which it is), I can't see why this is happening. > >What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is >unreachable. > >anyone know what's up ?? > They posted some messages indicating they screwed up in the expiration date on the software. Basically you need to download a new copy. I also had FTP problems. I could connect, but it would not accept anonymous passwords a few days ago. It appears to be up now ftp.omnigroup.com Connected to gaea.titan.org. 220 gaea FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Fri May 20 23:00:05 PDT 1994) ready. Name (ftp.omnigroup.com:root): anonymous IP address: 198.151.161.97 What I did because I could not get FTP to work, was to set my system clock back before 12/25/94 and used OMNIWEB to download a new copy via WWW. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,rodion.answers From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Graphic tools to shrink the image In-Reply-To: fma@opal's message of Fri, 16 Dec 1994 05:20:14 GMT To: fma@opal (frank ma) Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Dec30000215@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <1994Dec16.052014.23535@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 23:02:15 GMT On 16 Dec 1994 05:20:14, frank ma (FM) wrote: FM> Is there any graphic freeware shrinking bitmap or gif image and save the FM> shrinked bitmap into a new file? If you start with a TIFF file you can use /usr/bin/tiffutil -lzw and save up to 90% of space. See also the other options in man tiffutil I've used the following command in a Bourne shell to convert all .tiff files in one of my applications and saved 1.5MB! for f in *.tiff *.lproj/*.tiff ; do tiffutil -lzw $f -out $f.lzw && mv $f.lzw $f done Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preferences.app - Multiple Displays Date: 30 Dec 1994 14:21:04 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3e1q3g$s5r@cobber.cord.edu> When is Preferences.app's Multiple Display going to be "Applicable". On NeXTstations and PCs, the panel just says "Not Applicable." Is this different on dual-headed NeXTDimension systems? I hear that the HP712s 2nd video port will soon be supported under NS. How about other hardware, like PCs? My miro card can do multiple displays (at least under windows). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jon Doroin | I've taken the NeXTSTEP doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
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